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GSMC Football Podcast Episode 710: Patriots' Ebbs and Flows

GSMC Football Podcast

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GSMC Football Podcast Episode 710: Patriots' Ebbs and Flows

"Keep yourself in the loop of everything football on the golden state media. Concept's football podcast. Latest news on the field be at college football ten. Sec big twelve pac. Twelve acc to the nfl with got you covered. Listen to golden state media concepts football. Podcast Thank you tuning into the gmc football. Podcast the gmc podcast network. I'm your host kendrick. Hello hope you'll having a fantastic day. Hope you're all doing well. Some big news was announced over the weekend. I hope you're doing okay. I i know people are very very antsy right now as to what is going to happen over the next couple days over the next couple of weeks. How people are going to react to everything. I don't wanna get into with all i. This is this show. I don't really want to make it about politics and everything but hope everyone's okay hope you're doing well and thank you again for tuning in. We got some stuff talk today. I wanna talk about building around the young quarterbacks about the forty niners. I wanna talk about the evolution of the rookie. Qb and i want to talk about excuses being made in the nfl but anyways let's get into the so joe nemeth code into espn and he said that. Trevor in sam darnold night in the put down the exact quote because it isn't important but he said that trevor and sam donald both have an upside. But you can't keep both is basically what he said he said. Trevor lawrence has a ceiling that is tremendous and sam. Donald has a ceiling. That is good but at the end of the day if the just getting on overall pick and you have darnold in and you're looking the drafter lawrence you can't keep both on the same team. Now he went on to talk about how he feels that trevor lawrence there is a possibility he could look to force a trade kind of like an eli manning like some other players have done. If he really doesn't want to go play for the jets he could force the jets hand and more often than not. Especially when you're the quarterback you're going to win that battle. The jets do not want a disgruntled quarterback on their team. It's different one. That's another position. But when it's the guy who pulls the trigger when it's the quarterback it's just knock on the workout. You cannot have a former number three overall. Pick in a number one overall. Pick two quarterbacks that coming out of college where compared to andrew luck and were talked about being some of the best quarterback prospects to ever even come outta college. You can't have them both on the same team. It is bound to their bound. The butt heads. It's bound to make the locker room a been a bit. You can say on the edge. It was bound to be some bickering. Some comments in the media. Maybe some suffocating leaked. it just wouldn't work out now. of course. A lot of people have kind of accepted. The fact that the jets are gonna move on from sam donald right. They're gonna get that number one overall pick and they're gonna they're gonna move on from sam donald because they wanna drop trevor lawrence. Well the jets. Gm came out. And he said. And i quote. Trevor lawrence is there. Qb of the future. Now i don't know why he said this i really don't the jets at are over the on record saying if they do get the number one overall pick they will. Trade sam donald. I don't know why it is. He saying this it's that. Gm coachspeak it's pr. It's that oh we don't want to seem like the bad guy. We want to see him. Like we have is back. Look we all know the truth if they get that number one overall pick rookie contracts are so valuable. Because you're paying a you're paying a such a discounted price for a possible perennial product in. I think trevor lawrence is gonna be a premium product right. He's going to be one of the best quarterbacks in the league already. He'll probably be a top fifteen quarterback and they're going to be paying him pennies on the dollar as compared to what russell wilson aaron rodgers so on and so forth are making so of course if they get the number one overall pick. They're just going to rebuild. They're just going to move on. From sam darnold though take trevor lawrence though move forward with them they'll basically have five years to try and get it right. Will they get it right. I have no idea. I think it's going to depend on the batum gays but let's go ahead and entertain this right. Let's say in some parallel universe that the jets actually go ahead and they move forward sam. Don't they have the number one overall pick and they move forward sam darnold. What is it that they have to do. How is it that they can. Kinda re boo in save sam donald career because right now if there were the trade sam donald i think they could get maybe depend on the team but if they were to get sam donald and everyone especially new like they're going to trade him like there's no way that they're possibly going to keep him. I think they could get a second round pick. I think they could get a second round pick. I think another team. The only way they get a first round pick is if a team tried to leap over another team because other than that i mean why would the team give a first round. Pick for donald. Why would they write if the player wants out if the team wants to get rid of the player. Why would we offer you anything more than than the second round. Pick or like a third round pick. Why would we offer you a premium draft pick for a player that you're not gonna use that you want your team right and i get it. It's it's a quarterback. It's a bit different. This isn't an edge rusher. This isn't a safety i get. It is different. The quarterback is the most important position on the team. If you don't have the quarterback than your team is just not going to be successful. I e the jacksonville jaguars i e of the buffalo bills right right. They have that ten and six buffalo bill team in the defense outstanding. And everything's great but josh allen. Just wasn't the guy. You can have a great team but if your quarterback isn't that dude you're not gonna get very far so i get it. A team could probably offer him a first round pick because the desperate and they think they can change him. because a lot of gm's love. Sam darnold a lot of quarterbacks in the nfl. Love sam darnold. And the moment that i realized that. Maybe this is literally just the jets. And i'm dismissing. Something with sam. Darnold was when chris collins worth during nfl broadcast. I don't remember the game. It was one of the jets bit. It was whatever game. Sam darnold had that really long touchdown run against i. Just don't was it. The broncos. I think it was against the broncos chris collins were during the game said that he had text a couple starting quarterbacks in the nfl he named who they were but he had got some texts from a few different starting quarterbacks in the nfl. I don't know how many but he said all the quarterbacks messaged him and told him people don't realize how good sam darnold really. is the jets. Have nothing around him. People don't realize how good he is. So i started to. I started to walk. Sam darnold himself and i started to watch. I looked for the little things right. Some of the throws he can make some of his playmaking in. I have noticed. This dude can move and throw with the best quarterbacks in the nfl now his decision making is is really shot. I think he makes them really poor decision. Sometimes and i think part of it is the jets in just how. They've coached him. I think the other part of it is. He knows he needs to make plays in. He makes he tries to make plays he. Shouldn't but i believe. Sam darnold and another put in another situation with a good offensive line with just even one good number one receiver. That isn't a slot receiver. I think he could do something. So let's go ahead and entertain the jets building around sam darnold number one. You need to fire adam gates. That's the first step fire adam gays. He shouldn't have the job. His highlight of his career was being the offensive coordinator for peyton manning. One of the greatest. Nfl quarterbacks of all time a top three quarterback of all time one of the smartest dudes to ever play in the nfl. That is his claim to fame being the offensive coordinator for peyton manning. Woo okay awesome very impressive. What have you done without him. Literally nothing you had one winning season with the dolphins your first year there and then everything fell apart and things have completely fallen apart with the jets. I think number one you need to you. Need the fire. Adam gates number two if i was the jets honestly i would move on from z. Moseley you're paying him a lot of money. He barely played his first year there. He hasn't played the second year at all because he opted out. I think you need to get rid of c. J. moseley trade him away. There was another team out there. That would love to have him because when he's on the field he's one of the best mental linebackers in the league baltimore. I don't think they wanted to let him go. He just cost too much. So i'm sure another team would love to have. Cj moseley trade him away. What these twenty seven twenty eight. He's got a few years left on his deal. I think you can get a pick for him number three if you get that number one overall pick the number two overall pick whichever one it is traded away you could get. I believe like three or four draft picks from a desperate team in need of quarterback a team. That really really wants trevor lawrence. I think you could get a hall for that pick. Maybe not picks player. I don't think that they would go that far. But if you wanted like four draft picks for for this year and next year or even all this year. I think you can do it. The jets already have a good amount of draft picks for this coming draft. I firmly believe they could get a hall for that number one overall pick and then what you do. Is you work on that offensive line. Maybe you go in the free agency and you go get him a receiver. I don't know if anyone's going to necessarily be available but look somewhere for a receiver and you find a good head coach. Maybe eric be enemy. Maybe brian daboll find. Find somebody who was brilliant on offense who can work with sam darnold. Who can work with a mobile quarterback that has a great arm who just needs some pieces who just needs some decent coaching. I think of the jets can do that. For sam donald. They can attempt to save him in. They can attempt to really validate using that third overall. Pick on him because when they drafted him there were still a lot of people out there who thought they took the best quarterback in the draft. And it's kind of funny right. We look at it now. And there was an argument to be made that the two quarterbacks who everyone thought we're going to be the worst are the best josh allen and lamar jackson and the due to wet number one number two and then. What was rosen number ten. They're the worst. Rosen is the worst of the bunch. Because he's on the practice squad even on a roster anymore. Maybe it's unfair to judge him. I think it kind of is. I don't think he's gotten a fair shot. So maybe we'll go. We'll leave him out of it. But that means between baker and sam darnold and i think baker has performance has been better but he's been surrounded by other pieces than darnold and donald his from his grade. He's not far behind. It's really interesting. How that draft has panned out it. It's bakers rookie year. He looked incredible like he was a far away. The best quarterback in the draft. And now we're not even sure if he's going to make it to the next year with his team. Neither sam donald. It's very interesting. How the nfl Speaking of young quarterbacks needing to be built around. There's another young quarterback in the game who's already been paid and now he's in the rebuild and this is just as fourth year. The shawn watson came into the league on fire instantly looked like a hit and he was doing it behind one of the worst offensive lines and football and with bill. O'brien as his head coach. Which if you look at all the lists ranking the best head coaches coming into the season bill. O'brien numerous on numerous lists was either the very last coach or he was like in the bottom five. That is what people thought the bill. O'brien in the texans. They went ahead and fired him. And and again. I wanted to be fair. The bill o'brien villa bryan college. He did a great job and he comes to the nfl. And whether you want blame it on this division or whatever the case may be. He did a good job in houston. I think the problem with bill. O'brien is he just started to bite off more than he could chew. He tried to play head coach and general manager in. he just didn't do himself any favors. But the shawn watson has been incredible since he entered the league which is why houston paid him early. because he's benson. The sean wanted outside of his rookie year. He has had pro. football focus. Grades of eighty point nine. Eighty two point seven and this year in a year. The texans are horrible. He's posting up in eighty six point three. I believe he. He's a top ten quarterback this year as he's graded and i believe he is. I think he's like number seven number six on the list like this shawn watson. is that guy. He is that dude he fits today's nfl. He's phenomenal and just think it's such a shame that houston has done such a disservice. He comes into the league with an already pretty bad offensive line but they had dwayne brown. They then traded duane brown to seattle because of a political difference between he and the owner. They got rid of him. So all of a sudden have left tackle. Then they trade a hall to miami for their left tackle who they still needed to pay so then they paid him a alot the money and they didn't have any picks and all of a sudden they traded the way deondraye hopkins for nothing and they say the wage on clowney for nothing and they drafted another tackle and howard and he is he and tonsil or two guys who were labeled as untouchable. So like you have to tackles who. You're hoping are going to be great. Tunsil is great. You're hoping howard turns into that. The rest of the offensive line is still kind of shaky. You train for david johnson. You treated for duke johnson. You traded for brandin cooks. You wouldn't trae the will fuller you wouldn't trade. Jj watt you. Look at this team now. They're at the bottom of the vision or or at least they're fighting for it with jacksonville as to who was going to be the worst team. I never thought heading into the season. I did not think houston was going to be as bad as jacksonville. I have never thought that. If you told me that i would have said. Oh the shawn watson get hurt. Oh no oh. He's still healthy. Oh the team is just terrible. I think the texans have completely mismanaged it. And i feel bad for for for the ownership because it's not their fault. Well i mean. I don't know it's kind of their fault. They should not have made bill. O'brien the gm. They fired their gm and then they didn't hire one they made bill. O'brien the gm. For whatever reason. I don't know why i know. They were very very fond of him and they liked him but i don't know what they thought about his qualifications made him the potential to be a good gm. I just don't understand that. The houston texans right now are in a rebuilding mode now. The good news for the houston. Texans is they have the most important piece on their team the shawn watson. they've got the guy that is the most important piece of all of this is at least they have the quarterback now just comes to surrounding him. You've got left tackle. that's outstanding. You've got a right tackle who you're really hoping pans out. You're really like him anti this howard. You hope that pans out. okay cool. So you've got your quarterback you've got your tackles eating the fix the the center of the offensive line but but the most important pieces are the tackles so whether the texans go from here i have a few moves that they need to make to start building around the shawn watson again and doing it correctly number. One is find a general manager. A lot of people would say. Find the head coach. You need to find a general manager because they need to like the head coach. You can't pair a head coach and general manager who never worked together. Because that's just not how you do it. That's not how you build a team. Find the general manager. I and i don't have any candidates in my mind or anything like that. Maybe louis riddick always like louis riddick on the espn. I think he deserves a spot as a general manager of a team. But it is whatever Find the general manager from there. You find the head coach again. I think a guy. Like the enemy. Like brian daboll. I think would be outstanding for the job. Find one of them from that point on trade away. You're older expensive players. I e. Jj watt guys like whitney mercilus trade them away if you wanna keep mercilus fine but if anybody should be traded away it's jj watt and jj watt went on record and. I'm sure this kind of houston's are and i'm sure broke the texans but he said essentially please please trade me. Please do something with me. I don't wanna be here. This is what j. J. watt said quote. I don't think it's any secret that i don't have ten years left in this league. I personally that. I do have a few more great ones left end. But i'm not looking to rebuild. I'm looking to go to a champion of to go after a championship in. That's what i want to do so. Jj watt age. What is he now. Three thirty one thirty two something like that. Jj watt wants to go to a team that can contend same as a guy like ryan kerrigan over in washington number. Thirty year old player. He's been outstanding his entire career. As an edge rusher he's been so consistently dominant and washington didn't want to trade him in. It's the same thing with houston they didn't wanna trade. Jj watt and. They didn't even want to. Trade will fuller bad enough. I don't get it i get. This is something that's always irritated me when a player when you're a bad team in you have an aging player who still has value. Why would you not trade. The player. I get emotions can get in the way but when it comes to this business you're supposed to avoid the emotional aspect of it. You're supposed to do what's best for the team if the texans really love. Jj watt and they want the best for him because he's done so much for houston and his his Raising money for hurricane harvey in everything. I mean i get. Jj watt is a stalwart of the houston. Texans and they'll probably go down as the greatest houston texans player of all time. Trade him away in the off season move his contract. You're paying him. Like seventeen million. That is far too much for an older defensive lineman. Jj watt is still good. And i think you should give him the chance to go to a contender. Either you trade him away and get something for him or you release him one of the two and i think you do the same thing with whitney mercilus someone out there would love the have whitney mercilus. And other older edge rusher will fuller. I think you kinda lost the opportunity to train him at you. I think is i think he's in the last year of his deal. I think they of lost their opportunity to trade him. I don't know if they're going to re sign him. I don't know if i would resign him because he can't stay healthy. But i mean at that point. What are you leaving shawn watson with. Brandin cooks another guy who can't stay healthy with randall. Cobb another guy who consistently has been her in his career. I don't know i. They have not done the shawn watson any favors and they don't have any picks they don't have any good picks which is another thing that kind of blew my mind as to. Why would they not trade will fuller. Why would they not trade. Just one of these guys. You'll have a i you'll have a second. I don't think they have. I next year or a second next year in. This is all bill. O'brien's fault he's kinda screwed the texans over when it comes to rebuilding in the next couple of years and guys like jj watt and. I think there's other guys in the locker who probably feel the same way. There's some guys on that team who are not looking to rebuild right now. So if they want to rebuild around the shawn watson and they want to really make this team in his image find the gm find the head coach trade away. You're older expensive players in. It's going to mean parting ways with. Jj watt and. I know what's going to break the heart of texans fans. There will probably be a big emotional goodbye. I'm sure the next time. Jj watt was to face houston in houston's arena. I'm sure the fans would go wild for him. But it's what you gotta do. It's the price of doing business. You can't let emotions get in the way that's the one thing. Bill belichick always did rate with new england. Is he never let his emotions get in the way of making a trade or cutting player he never let it get in the way he was willing to trade brady. He was willing to trade the goat all so that his team would be better off in the future. That's what the houston texans need to do. So i think the jets if they want to go ahead and rebuild around. Sam darnold you can do it. It's gonna take firing your head. Coach trading the pick trading. Moseley move the from there when it comes to houston. Find your gm find your head coach. Trae jj watt trade. Whitney mercilus start getting young inexpensive talent on the team and go from there. You have your left tackle. You've got your right tackle supposedly you we all know you have your quarterback move forward from there. Any was coming up next. We're gonna talk about the forty niners because they are just a very strange team. And i think they're going to be the very very interesting situation. This offseason and i don't know where they're gonna go. If i really think about that coming up next are you looking for help for your fantasy football team. Check out the gsm see fantasy football. Podcast get ten east best advice on who to start who to sit even who. You should draft from sleeper. Pick red hot lineups. They got it all covered for you. That's gsm see podcast. Dot com fantasy dash football dash odd cast. We'll cover traditional leagues dynasty few pr. Even i dp when you need fantasy help. There's just one show up. Don't forget to like on facebook and follow them on twitter visit. Gmc podcast dot com for more info. Welcome back to the gmc football podcast. Last segment talked about building around young quarterbacks. And i brought up sam donald shawn watson the jets if they do decide the bill around sam donald. It's all going to start with firing adam gays in trading with number one overall. Pick think aside no is you. Trade away cj. I think you can still get something for him. I don't think he wants to play for the jets. He hasn't played. He didn't play early first year with all because of injury and then his second year he opted out. I think you can get something for him. That is how you building around. Sam donald for the texans. Find your gm find your head. Coach trade away older expensive players like jj watt. It'll be emotional. It's not something. I think anybody wants to do. But it is the best decision. If you want to put the shawn watson in the best position moving forward with that being said. Let's get into team. That is going to probably be in the market for a new quarterback this off season. The forty niners. The forty niners are really really weird team. And there's a lot of people who are out on jimmy garoppolo in their out on him for the same reason as to a guy like me would be out on him. And it's because i've seen jimmy garoppolo in these games and i've seen how kyle shanahan calls plays now him being in a run oriented. Offense isn't anything new right. We've seen other teams or doing the same thing right. The browns they've had a run oriented offense. The seattle seahawks for years and years and years had a run oriented offense. The panthers had a run oriented offense around cam newton. We've seen it before. But what does that tell you. It's not just the team has a really really good running back. But in a lotta. These situations look at the quarterbacks and look at what their deficiencies are what is cam. Newton's deficiency is his passing. That is his weakest point. He's a better runner than is thrower. Baker mayfield. What is his weak point. Passing and his running isn't really much better. What is jimmy. Garoppolo's weakest point. He's a better runner than he is thrower but his decision making with the football sometimes is very very suspect. They already limit his throws in an offense and yet he still manages every single year. At least this past year when he was a full time starter he still manages to be in the top ten for turnovers even though they limit his chances to throw it in the playoffs he had a game where i think he threw nine times. What was it was it the nfc championship game or the game. Before one of the two games. I think it might have been a championship game. He threw at nine times. That is what kyle shanahan thinks of him. And then in the super bowl. And i reiterated this before i'll say it again in the super bowl the chiefs are starting to make a bit of a comeback kyle. Shanahan tried to put the ball in jimmy garoppolo hands to deliver them from evil and he couldn't do it. He had emmanuel sanders wide. Open for a touchdown it probably would have been the game-breaker and he missed him. He overthrew him by like five yards. Jimmy garoppolo he's just not that guy at least it doesn't seem like he's that guy in it doesn't seem like kyle shanahan thinks he's that guy but here's the weird thing about the forty niners so in two thousand seventeen kyle. Shanahan was one in ten until he got garoppolo. They finished that season six and ten in twenty eighteen. He went one and two jimmy. Garoppolo jimmy robbo got her. He went three and ten down the stretch then in two thousand nineteen. Jimmy garoppolo was healthy for the entire season. They go thirteen and three they get to the super bowl and they have a ten point lead in the fourth quarter against patrick mahomes. He threw another interception a chance to win it. And maybe you blame jimmy garoppolo. Maybe you blame. Kyle shanahan for once again. Not doing what they do. Best which is run the football he decided to continue the throw it for whatever reason and they lost the and then this season would jimmy garoppolo. He's three and two overall. He has four and five. Because jimmy garoppolo has missed a couple of games. So basically what. I'm saying is for whatever reason without jimmy garoppolo kyle. Shanahan doesn't win. Whether it's beth mcmullan. Whoever this who's in a quarterback. I think nick molins can actually of play a little bit Who no matter what. They don't win kyle. Shanahan has a losing record without jimmy garoppolo. I think overall still he still has a losing record. And i'm not gonna go as far as to say that that cow shanahan's job is in jeopardy. I don't want to go to that. I don't wanna go to. He's on the hot seat because they gave him an extension. He just went to the super bowl his team right now. We're still very very competitive. They've been snake bitten with injuries just to name a few of them. D ford richard sherman. Nick boasts solomon tom as kendrick bourne. Devaux samuels trent williams. All of a sudden he's l. because he's on the he was on the covid lists and coleman he's been in now and it's just been a mess it really has been a mess for the forty niners garoppolos in and out of the lineup of injury kindle. He's in and out now he's out for maybe the rest of the season. We don't know this is just not been there year. So i don't think cow shanahan's job is in jeopardy. I do think that they're going to look to move on from jimmy garoppolo. Because there's only so many times you can. You can go forward with a quarterback who can't stay healthy. There's only so many times you can go forward with a quarterback who not only can't stay healthy but who's decision making. Isn't that great right. I think philadelphia is kind of in that same position carson wentz. He doesn't really stay healthy and his decision. Making isn't that great. And i and and i don't know maybe from my perspective from a talent perspective i think carson wentz is better than jimmy garoppolo but his recent play. I can't back it up. I can't say with his recent play. He's jimmy garoppolo. I think he has more talent more ability. His ceiling is higher. But he's not playing it about jimmy garoppolo. I think the book is kind of out on them. You know what he is. If you if you try and make jimmy garoppolo beat you throwing the football. Sometimes he can do it in sometimes. He can but more often than not it seems like he can't he's a guy who kinda needs his run game he needs great play calling. He needs his guys to be open because otherwise he's going to turn the football over you can guarantee he will throw the ball to the defense at least twice a game. It just comes down to the defense on if they can make a play for the football so it makes me think what exactly should the forty niners do. Because i think without jimmy garoppolo. I don't know if this team has much of a future. It didn't have any future even before. Jimmy garoppolo right kyle. Shanahan gets there in. The team wasn't really even competitive. They just weren't remember. They were one in ten. They just were even competitive as soon as they got. Jimmy garoppolo all of a sudden they're undefeated and then the next season. They saw that one and two. It wasn't great but then garoppolo got hurt. They face them really tough teams. Garoppolo gets hurt. You go three ten down the stretch and then people were kind of thinking themselves. Okay so a shanahan. The guy what are we. What are we going to do here. And then jim ellis. Healthy takes you to the super bowl. And he's just such an interesting quarterback for me. he's just such an interesting quarterback. I've never seen a team. Kind be so out on a quarterback when he is almost realistically the only reason you win. Has there ever been the situation like that before May maybe the buffalo bills with doug flutie. Doug flutie he when he was in there. The team was good it but they didn't really want him in there. They wanted his the other guy in there. I can't remember his name. But maybe with doug flutie situation jimmy garoppolo. He seems to be the only reason this team has ever read any games and they seem to be completely out so i look at the forty niners heading into this off season. And i'm like okay. What moves exactly is it that they need to make well number one. They need to get a good number one wide receiver. Because they don't seem to have it. I don't think it's devaux samuels I think he he's if anything he's like a number two. He's a jet sweep guy. He's a number two receiver. I think he's i think he's a lot of talent. Maybe he can surprise me right because a lot of people didn't think a guy like tyreek hill was the number one receiver. He has shown when he is used properly. And obviously he's trained. He's worked on his route running. He's worked on all that he is a number one receiver in the chiefs offense and another place. maybe not but the isn't number one receiver. Maybe deal samuels could turn into that. I have no idea. They did draft. Euch but i think they need to find a big number one wide receiver for whoever the quarterback is. They've got george kittle. That's great they've got a pretty solid offensive line. It's when it's healthy. It's really good. That's fine running back wise. I think that is the area that the niners need to figure out what it is that they're doing because there was a point in time where they had the moster they had brita. And i think they had wilson there and they had this trio of running backs that were all very very productive under kyle shanahan and then all of a sudden they know when they pay jerick mckinnon a lot of money and he gets her any mrs two straight years and then they went and they threw money at tevin coleman and he comes in and he's been fine but he wasn't even their main back last year that was actually moster who took over that role and then even this year when most it's been healthy. I don't know that that that's the one area of the team. I think they've really messed up on. But the biggest thing is going to figure out what to do at quarterback because the niners. I don't think they're a bad team. I think the niners are just really banged up. I think once they get healthy again. This team will once again be ready to make a super bowl. I think they have the same kind of roster as a team like the colts as a team. Like a wake. what's another what's not unlike. Maybe the broncos when they're fully healthy. I mean they have a roster that is set to compete right now. The thing that they just need is the quarterback. They got the head coach. They have the defense. Wanna tell the they have the run game when it's healthy and their offense is very very creative. The motion the disguising of things. It's great it's outstanding. The only thing that needs to be fixed is the quarterback spot in so that's one that brings to if they were to move on from jimmy garoppolo who they go after in names have been brought up like matt ryan or like kirk cousins because shanahan has worked with both of them in remember before jimmy garoppolo. There was the rumor that was out. There that went kirk cousins became a free agent. Shanahan was going to reach out to kirk cousins to come to the niners because he likes kirk. He likes what he can do. He can work with him matt ryan. Now he's being brought up. He's still owed a lot of money by atlanta. So i don't know if they're going to want to trade him this off because it would be a big cap hit. But he's another guy who under kyle shanahan had one of the most efficient and ridiculous offensive seasons of of all time that atlanta team. That offense was ridiculous and no defense could stop. Even patriots through three quarters could not stop their offense. The only thing that could stop that offense was kyle shanahan and again in the this year in the super bowl niners chiefs it was kyle shanahan. That stopped the offense. But i wanna throw this out there. I think there's two possible quarterbacks who the niners could look at this offseason one of them is dak prescott in the other sam darnold. Now let me explain the dak prescott point of view dallas. I do not believe is going to re-sign back prescott in the reason being is because when you look at their remaining schedule the vikings washington the ravens the bengals the niners the eagles the cowboys Guys what guaranteed wins. Do they have on that. Ross on that schedule. I think they could lose to the vikings i think they could lose again to washington because their defense is too good. I think they could lose. I think they'll get blown out by the ravens. I think they could easily lose to the bengals. I think the niners are still better than them. The eagles they had four turnovers and they still couldn't beat the eagles. Now andy owned by that point in time. I'm sure he'd be back but are we going to say. It's a guaranteed walk through and the giants for the last game of the season. The giants defense has been good in daniel. Jones is good enough to wear like hill. Turn the ball over to you. But he's good enough he could make some throws in run to make some plays like he could make that game really really interesting. They barely beat the giants last time. There is a good chance the cowboys win. Maybe one more game one or two more games and they have a top five. Pick in this coming draft and there are maybe four quarterbacks there's trae lance there's trevor lawrence there's justin fields and then there's the kid at byu. There is a good chance. Dallas is going to draft a quarterback and will move on from dak prescott. So i think that the niners could realistically make a run for that prescott. You trade jimmy garoppolo. Get that contract off your books. Go sign that preska. I think he'd be an incident of great over. Jimmy garoppolo and i think they'd instantly become a contender again. And then i say sam darnold kyle shanahan his offense around sam darnold a guy who i mean. He has been turned over. Like i get it right. It's really hard to kind of. Make this argument sam donald because when you look at his statistics and everything. It's just not good but you look at what the jets are working with. You look at what. He's had the work with their entire career. Who has had coaches are the talent that he has. I think kyle shanahan could use it to perfection. And i think he'd be able to coach the mistakes of the sam darnold use around him with a really good run game and outstanding play calling and you put him in a chance. In a in a position to succeed they wouldn't have to instantly pay him. He'd still have a year and then the fifth year option on his contract like i. I really think there is a possibility. The niners could make a trade for sam darnold and i would be here for it. And now it'd be a nightmare for the nfc west in the nfc. West quarterbacks are gonna be russell wilson jared goff sam darnold and cuyler murray four guys that realistically can all play in the nfl for years and years in us to come. Wilson is still young column. Hasn't even reached the second contract yet. Jared goff is still in his twenty s and then sam darnold. He's still a baby in the nfl. Who has yet to even really be given a fair shot to play or up to even compete. And i think the niners right. Now want to compete. So maybe they wouldn't necessarily go from san don looks. I don't know of sam. Darnold is ready to compete at that level. Either like i don't know he hasn't been in the playoffs he has. That pressure is like yet and obviously you never know what the pressure is like until you get it. But i mean that prescott has been to the playoffs. He's won a playoff game albeit a fluky game. He played a seattle team. That was still trying to run the football too much So dak prescott. He's been in the fire before he's played in this league at a very high level higher than any level. Sam darnold has ever dreamed about playing so far. So maybe they make the movement for that prescott. He will be a free agent and he'll be looking to get paid and you know i don't think they'll be able to necessarily get them at a discounted price. I just don't think those days exist anymore. You're gonna have to pay these. Quarterbacks upmost four million dollars a year. I don't think that prescott will set a new record. But if they're not going to make a trade for kirk cousins which this season is not exactly panning itself out for anyone to want to trade for kirk cousins. And if he doesn't make a trade for matt ryan who better than to go for kirk cousins. Because i think the niners are still going to be too good to have a top five pick. I don't think they're going to get that. I think dallas is bad enough to get a top five. Pick so make the move over that prescott. I think it'd be good. I think he'd work really really well. Locale shanahan. I think they would have a much more dynamic offense. He's more of an athlete. He can move. I think he has arm. He has a decision making. I just think it is a match. That could really work anyways. Coming up next evolution. The rookie quarterback slavery interesting. We've seen guys like dwayne. Haskins and josh rosen and two of the leash is kinda short now a days and it used to be that way my topic of the day. There are some excuses being thrown out in the nfl and people. They don't ever like to hear excuses. But guys we gotta be honest sometimes. Excuses are valid. That coming up later. Michaud check out the show. That's built on the mma from ufc. Two extreme cage. Fighting they got the fights covered. Check out the gsm see mma. Podcast get the latest news on past or upcoming fights. Join us as we've talked to in about some of the biggest names in 'em past present and future when it's the fight game there's just one show to check out gs nc. Podcast dot com backslash. Mame dash podcast. Don't forget to like them on facebook and follow them on twitter busy. Gs mc podcast dot com for more info interest. Welcome to the smc. Mc football podcast. Last segment talked about the forty niners. In the fact that i mean they wanna move on from jimmy garoppolo. I think everyone can see the writing on the wall. Jimmy garoppolo is not going to be there long term. The cow shanahan has seemed to quit on him. He show that what the play calling Whether it be in the during the whole season last year and then into the playoffs only throwing nine times in a game. I think it goes to show cow. Shanahan doesn't believe in them. Jimmy garoppolo was her again for the second time just this season so i think the route on them. But what's really strange is without jimmy garoppolo. The team doesn't win so it's like. Is he good. Do they need just a little. Bit above average quarterback. Play to be a good team. Like i. I don't know but i think for the niners have a roster right now. That is ready to compete. I think they need if anything they need. Some help it receiver and maybe Maybe another offensive linemen. Maybe a cornerback. But other than that. This team i think is ready to compete. And they have some options. This offseason right. They could always try. And make a run at kirk cousins or matt ryan but i think they should really look at a guy like that prescott. I don't think the cowboys are gonna resign him. I think the cowboys are gonna look in the draft. Cause i think they're going to be bad enough to get a pick. They're in if they are dak. Prescott will not be back. And i think kyle shanahan should take a shot at him so anyways. It's going to get into this so the evolution of the rookie. Cornerback right nowadays. I think we all kind of see it rookie. Quarterbacks do not get much leeway nowadays if you don't show immediate flashes of greatness in your rookie year teams are already kind of out on you. We've seen it. Would dwayne haskins. We've seen that with josh rosen. The window for teams to maximize their chances at super bowls. Five years you get the four main years of a rookie contract and you get a fifth year option. If their first round pick you have that limited window in the nafta that you gotta pay the guy so you look at a team like the seattle seahawks. There's still a really good team because their quarterback is probably the best in the league. But they're paying russell wilson which means you can't always afford a great left tackle. You can't always afford the number one right wide receiver that is when you need to nail the draft and more importantly you need to nail your late around picks because if 'cause assuming you're team is still kinda good you're going to be in the lower twenties you won't be able to get those blue chip prospect unless a guy falls to you or he's just an absolute gem you need nail your second your third or fourth round picks that is something that pete carroll really made his name on his first few years in the league he was able to draft a guy like russell. Wilson like bobby wagner like kam. Chancellor like richard sherman. He was able to get some of these guys in the later rounds and they were instant hits in some of it is because he saw them in college because at that point he was a college coach and some of it is just luck and some of it is. You just know it when you see it. And then especially goes for quarterbacks you just know it when you see it and some of these guys like here. I have some examples of rookie seasons. Right so i think nowadays in this nfl. I think if a rookie was to have this kind of season it can no longer work. Matt stafford who i think. Most people look at right now as he's not really a winner. he's a five hundred quarterback. But when you look at his arm in his ability to throw the football people say he's one of the best in the league has one of the best arms in the league. He's one of the best pass. Who's in the league. The thing is he doesn't win. It's a lot of garbage time. Stats everything like that. But matt stafford rookie year member. He was the number one overall pick. He played ten games. Because i think he got hurt but he completed fifty three percents of his passes for twenty two hundred yards thirteen touchdowns and twenty picks nowadays if a rookie has that kind the season they're done and i don't think it's because the i don't think is because of any fall over the quarterback necessarily right. It's their first season. I might be one of the last few people on this island. I still believe that these younger quarterbacks need need two or three seasons to really figure out the speed of the nfl to really figure out defenses. Matt patrick mahomes and say he figured out how the reader defense until midway through his third year other than that he was doing it. Just on pure ability and the play calling andy reid and eric the enemy and the pieces around him other than that. He didn't even really know how to read a defence. He it took him until the middle of year three. Some of these guys just need some time and they have the talent to make it work. They can. But i think the reason. Why is that. A quarterback can't have a season like matt stafford. Did his rookie. Year is because the hit rate is so high. Now i don't have the total number of quarterbacks drafted since two thousand twelve. But when i think about quarterbacks drafted since two thousand twelve that can force sure play in the nfl. I mean let's just think about it. Russell wilson ryan tannehill kirk kirk cousins andrew luck obviously now retired by andrew luck robert griffin. The third could play. Nick foles has shown he can play when he's in the in the perfect system which apparently seems to only be in philadelphia but he shown in the perfect system. he can play a patrick mahomes. Lamar jackson does shawn watson jameis. Winston mario the show that he could play when the team actually kind of gave him a chance to run the offense that that caters to his skill set cuyler murray jared goff dak prescott carson wentz. I mean these guys have all shown at least at some point or another for more than one season for more than two seasons for more than three seasons that they can actually play at a really decent level in the nfl and they can be a top ten. A top half of the league quarterback some of them. It's taken them a bit longer ryan. Tannehill take took him a bit longer. kirk cousins took a bit. But they've shown they can be or close to e elite franchise quarterbacks in the nfl. The hit rate is just too good anymore to sit around with me the ochre and so when you look at a team like the browns or like the bills moving forward like the forty niners. I think they kind of look at the quarterback situations. And they're like man. If we can upgrade i mean. We shouldn't we upgrade if we can upgrade from josh allen. Show that we move on from baker. Sure that we jimmy garoppolo show the we same thing for the jets. They get the number one overall. Pick gonna just move on from from sam donald right. The hit rate is just too good in. That is why. I think to what is going to get the remainder of the season to either sink or swim in. If he doesn't show the dolphins any of the things that made them want to draft him. I believe they will move on from him because they have houston's first round pick and right now it's in the top five in houston just doesn't look like a good team benenson games and they found ways to lose them. They're they're just not a good team right now with is a top five. Pick and brian came out and he said that to isn't an audition right because some people were asking him. Oh will you move on from him. If he doesn't show any flashes this season will you do that and he said no. He thought it'd be ridiculous. You know to only give him the remainder of the season. It's not an audition. They're starting in boba. And of course we've talked about. How strange situation is because the dolphins right now are fighting really for a playoff spot like like a given the rector then given the position of the rest of the afc and their vision. They're fighting for a playoff spot in fitzpatrick was playing really really good Still among the leaders in turnover so you is bring up that. There's always that time for him to have the fitzpatrick game where he throws like two hundred yards no touchdowns and five picks and they get blown out. It's only a matter of time. But they pulled him and they put into. It is rare that a team ever pulls out a quarterback when the team is winning. And you put in your rookie. Who has been unproven. Who's coming off of a catastrophic injury. You never quite know what. I think he was put in. Because you see joe burrow and you see justin. Herbert in you see what they've been doing and they felt pressured to put them in and see what they got. I think that the texans pick only added more pressure. The dolphins have a good amount of picks coming up. They've got a good defense. They seem to have their head coach. They the only thing they need is they need the find. The quarterback now terry bradshaw. I think he went on the herd and he said he thinks to was going to be excellent. He said he told calling. Don't give up onto. He thinks to what is going to be excellent. So i'm in the way. And i'm going to look for and i'm gonna watch him the rest of the season if i don't catch the game i'm the catch the highlights out try and find the recording of the game. I'm going to watch too. And i want to see how much improvement i see from him week to week to week. Because there's only so long that the team can lose right. You can only be in rebuild mode for so long sooner or later. The head coach needs to win if they want to keep their job so even as good as we think. Brian flores is sooner or later the dolphins need to win on a consistent basis and right now this division is to be had the patriots. They don't have a quarterback right now. They know who their quarterback is going to be the jets. They might have their quarterback. They might not their quarterback might be in this coming draft. Their quarterback in this coming draft might force his way out of the team. We have no clue The the bills were not entirely sure. Where they're gonna go with josh allen. Josh allen is a roller coaster. Some games he's up some games. He's down while he has the season than he has ever been before he's still very very inconsistent and basically since that four game stretch at the beginning season he hasn't been quite the same player. The league has kind of figure them out. It's just down to the dolphins again. They've got the defense. They got the head coach. Some of their offensive players opted out of the season like devante. Parker is excellent. Gets seki is excellent. Their offensive line needs to be fixed. They seem to have found some running backs. So it's just it really does come down to and we're going to judge if we just look at every single rookie quarterback this season and we look at their first games. Herbert was awesome. Borough was awesome. Tua was erratic. He didn't have any of the accuracy. Even his one touchdown throw. i personally. Didn't think it was great. I thought he put it in a in a nice spot but it could have easily been picked in my opinion don't know to. His debut was not as impressive. So we'll see how he looks the rest of the season. But you're telling me this dolphins team with the division as wide open as it is. You're telling me if this team manages to get a a pick from from from houston if they manage to get that pick and it's in the top five and they have a chance to take one of these four quarterbacks. You really don't think that that florez in in everyone will just say all right. We made a mistake time. Move on dwayne. Haskins got ten games ten or eleven games. He and in his eleven starts his stats. Were completely identical to josh allen. Now josh allen was obviously more mature he wasn't showboating in gloating. Like dwayne haskins was so that is why he lost his job. Josh rosen. his rookie. Season was not good. No part of it looked impressive. The team around him was terrible but they went ahead and said we made a mistake. Were done in. They moved off of him nowadays. If you don't show you have it early. The team is already looking for your replacement. And you can blame guys like ben rothlisberger or matt ryan or russell wilson or patrick mahomes or dak prescott or shawn watson. You can blame those kinds of players. Because as soon as they came into the league even if their overall stats didn't look super impressive their teams their teams one. They showed the upside in these. Are the guys who really set the tone for teams trying to maximize the rookie contract by by surrounding them. With high priced free agents getting the best player possible nail you know nailing the draft hopefully but paying everybody signing all your good players. You don't need to let anybody go and you maximize that window. You got five years. You can blame those guys for the way. It's gone because nowadays. You cannot afford to have as a rookie. Season like jared goff. Then you can't afford to have a rookie season like matt stafford. Then like josh rosen. Did like basically dwayne haskins did. You can't afford it anymore if you don't show even a glimpse of being elite even show a glimpse of the upside that is their these teams are ready to move on from you because there is a shelf life to everybody. There's a window to win and if you're not going to help them out whether you therefore and again don't get me wrong. I don't think it's fair. It isn't fair to me. It's not fair that rookie. Quarterback's nowadays get basically a season. Maybe two to be successful and to prove to the team that they are the guy that they should start to build the team around whereas guys like blaine gabbert and christian ponder in jake locker they managed to get one to three seasons before the team's kind of looked at them and said Yeah all right. Yeah no no. They're not the guy whereas these other guys they they put up even more impressive numbers than them and the in today's nfl and yet the teams don't look at them and go. I don't know. I don't know if they're the guy but it is the way that the league is moving and i do understand that i do get it. The league is so ofensive leaning that in there are so many quarterback camps and in the college schemes are being implemented in the nfl able to translate even easier and forget about the speed in the nfl. You should just be able to play in it. I get it. But i still don't think it's fair but then again life isn't fair fair as a place where you go in judge pigs and that is not the nfl anyways coming up next final topic of the day. We're gonna talk about excuses being made in the nfl. I some people might say their excuses in that. they're not valid. Ain't nobody wants to hear excuses. Ever as to why it is. The team is performing well. But in this case. I think the excuses are valid. We will get into that coming up next. The show built around the women of mma from the ufc to the extreme cage. Fighting we got the fights. Cover the golden state media. Concepts women's may podcast. The latest news of upcoming flights discussions previous matches join us as we talk to in about the biggest names. Women's mixed martial arts past present and future when it's the women's fight game you know we're to listen to the golden state media concepts women's mma podcast Payment may welcome the gmc football podcast. Last segment talked about the evolution of the rookie quarterback how rookie quarterbacks used to be able to come into the nfl and they could struggle for one to sometimes even three seasons. They didn't necessarily even have to look a super impressive improvement wise year to year to year. Team seem to kind of just give them a chance. Because the hit rate on quarterbacks wasn't that great when you drafted your guy you wanted to give him a fair shot. Nowadays the hit rate is so much higher and the college schemes have made it so much easier and the offense in general in the league is so much easier that if you don't come into this league and look even remotely like maybe the third second best quarterback in your vision if you don't look competent if you can't come in and look electric kyle. Murray in your offense comes alive if you can't look like russell wilson his rookie year. If you can't come in and look like that. And you look like jared goff or a christian ponder or blaine gabbert or even matthew stafford the teams are already looking for your replacement in. It's just how it is. So when i look at two and i hear brian flora's comment saying This isn't an audition one. This isn't an audition no to was our guy to was our starter. We plan to have them next season. Maybe maybe maybe would. But if he doesn't show the flashes for you now you get a top five. Pick from houston. There is no way that they're gonna pass on the opportunity to draft one of these four quarterbacks in the top. I don't know if the byu kid is going to be a top ten pick. I don't know where he's projected the be at. But i know that pro. Football focus thinks. He's a first round talent so we'll see what happens there but you know if the dolphins get a chance to draft like justin fields or trey lance. There's no way they're gonna pass a bonnet. I just don't i just don't believe it but anyway the topic of the day so i i'm i'm one of these people. I don't really like excuses. But i think there's a difference between bad excuses and good excuses right. A bad excuse would be well. Why are you late to this. Meaning oh i needed to go get my car washed really that you need. You need to get your car washed right now before the meeting. It couldn't wait bad excuse but if you say something like oh well. My wife went into labor. I needed to drive to the hospital. That is a good excuse for you to be late to your meeting or hell for you even miss your meeting that a way better. Excuse not everybody likes them but sometimes things just happen. Life is crazy like that. It is unpredictable. You never quite know what's gonna happen. You don't know what's happening in someone else's life. They don't know what's happening in your life. Things just happen and especially when the pertains to the nfl people hate excuses. People do not want to hear especially the fans people do not want to hear excuses as to why it is that your team is bad. Nobody wants to hear it at a certain point. There's only so many times you can say it's because the coach sucks. There's only so many times you can say it's because the drafting is bad. There's only so many times you can say it's because of the quarterback or whatever the case may be because the team beats itself. There's only so many times you can make an excuse before fans get restless before even the city itself can become restless and even if the excuse is kind of valid. There's only so long you could make it well. New england fans are not happy with the way new. England has played this this season. The patriots are not a good team. They're just not for the first few weeks of the season. They kinda had everybody fooled. They beat the dolphins. They took it to the wire against the seahawks. They beat the raiders in what they showed everybody was. They can still play really good defense. Cam newton is an okay enough passer to make this office work. And they're gonna make the offense a run first based offense sprinkle and some cam newton. Some rex burkhead some sony. Michelle some james. Why throw it to the running backs. Coach julian edelman nikial. Harry looked more impressive like he can actually play a little bit. They had everybody fooled. They had everybody fooled. Bill check in. December is one of the best coaches in. Nfl hit or not december in september in september bill. Bell checks one of the best coaches in. Nfl history and the thing that's made him great. Is that even later. In the season he still great. He's not one of these head coach. Mike mularkey wherein september he was outstanding. But then as the season went on he kind of became a five hundred head coach. Right when you have all the offseason to prepare for your four games in september you can drop some great game plans. You can really work on them. And for that first month you can go four now and look great but then as soon as the weeks get shorter and you have less time to prepare and there's more injuries than we're going to see what kind of head coach you are. That's kind of happened. The bill belichick this season. Except i don't think it's his fault. I don't think it's as coaching. I just think it's plain and simple. They don't have the talent bill. Belichick went on and it in an interview and the the the radio host was kind of pushing it bill. Check about him making excuses as to why it is. That new england wasn't being successful in bill. Flat out said you know. We offered cam newton a million dollars. We don't really have the money to do anything. We sold out the last three. See the last four years. We won three super bowls. We went to four and this season. We just don't have the money and there's a lot of people out there who don't like that. There's a lot of people out there that don't like that excuse and i understand why it's because bill check is not only the head coach. He's the gm he decides who gets paid. As just a matter of fact he decides who gets paid if he doesn't want to pay somebody he trades them in if you want to pay somebody he will offer them a contract. It's typically for lower value than there actually probably worth but Either you accept the deal and you play by the new england way or you move on in. He will trade you away. Chandler jones traded him away in chandler. Jones is one of the best pass rushers in the nfl has been over the last five seasons and coming into the season law. People said where's new england's pass rush. And i believe chase winovich at least for the for the first four weeks of the nfl season he had one of the best win rates in the nfl is a pass rusher so for a little bit they did. They had a bit of a pass rush but since then the defense has been good in. The offense hasn't been good in all even though about the special teams. I mean you'll maybe. The special teams units amend the best part of their team this year but The teams just kinda fallen apart. And i'm not one of these people who believes that bill belichick excuse is just that an excuse. I think it's a really reasonable excuse. And it's actually kind of a flex as well right he. We've won three super bowls. We went to four in like the last what five years we sold out. What are you complaining about is basically what he's saying is like what are you complaining about this season. Yes no. we don't really have the money. We have a lot of opt-outs. We lost our quarterback our succession. Planning jimmy garoppolo is gone because the starter went to the owner in cried. Daddy please save me. And the robert kraft finally stepped in and made bill belichick. Do something and i've already gone on recognize. Said i think cam newton. I think some of his play is because a covance. I think kobe affected them. I don't know if he's going to let anybody know if it did. But i think it did affect them and i think it's mess with play but then also i mean guys. Let's look at this. Roster i mean really what is cam newton working with. He was the offense for the first three weeks of the season. He was the offense. James wyatt is just a running back. Birkhead is just a running back. Only michelle is just a guy and a receiver in the keel. Harry is a bust in ryan izzo. Has he even caught a pass. The season i'm sure he has. But like i don't remember any memorable catch and julian edelman has become a drop machine and he's an older slot receiver. This could be a team that could have really used a tray. The for like julio jones or odell beckham if he didn't get hurt right. This team needs a receiver. They need help on defense again. They thought about trading stefan gilmore. He had his house for sale and he said that all offers needed to be in by that tuesday for the trade deadline. That is where this new england team is and look is it bill. Bell checks fall. Sure sure for the last few seasons. He has sold out every single year. An has tried to win a superbowl. He has tried to maximize the end of brady's career. He's tried to maximize their when he did. He won three super bowls and went to four in five seasons in fans are going to look at this team now and they're gonna say. Oh bill belichick really. Isn't that great. Oh well this is just excuses this jet. That is ridiculous bill. Belichick is probably the best head coach in the nfl. I think he's the best head coach in. Nfl history and sure right now. Tom brady. he's one. He's one two debates one. He's not done playing and number two. It's not bill. Bella checks system. That made tom brady great. It's not his system. Tom brady is just a good quarterback. Okay he's one those two debates now. We will wait and see. If tom brady can get two and win a super bowl if he can even just get to one. That will be awesome. It's a feather in his cap. If brady can get to another super bowl and the next two three years if he decides to stay for a third year in tampa bay we never know and bill. Belichick can't get to one the remainder of time. He's a head coach. Then i guess we will finally know who to give all the credit to or not all the credit but we know who to give the majority of the credit to and we'll have to give it to tom. Brady i still think they share a lot of the credit. I still think if not for bill belichick. Tom brady wouldn't have all the rings. Bill is one of the greatest defensive minds in. nfl history in year in and year out. He has given tom brady. Top-ten top. five top two defenses to go to go along with tom. Brady's willingness to not turn over the football and just take what the defense gives him take the check down. Take the easy pass just for the first down that trying to go for a bomb they were a great pairing and because of this great pairing. They both had a lot of success. I'm not ready to save one deserves more credit than the other. If you made me pick right now. I would say tom brady but long term. I don't know man man. Give bill belichick a chance to even just get this roster back together give bill belichick and opportunity to just find a decent receiver you know and and i get it right. That's the part where people kind of blame bocek because he handles the draft and he hasn't been great at drafting this season. He has a really really good Offensive linemen that he drafted. I can't pronounce his last name. I don't even know what first name is. But they have a really good guard and other than that though. It's just i dunno. It's guys he just kinda drafts guys you have a chance at. Aj brown at decay metcalf at depot. Samuels you're a chance to draft all these guys and you drafted nick johari. Just think about the difference in the four chance for new england if instead of drafting the keo harry. They had drafted decay metcalf. Can you imagine tom brady with decay. Metcalf there can you imagine what that would look like. This last season new england might have been able to go to the super bowl again if they just had one that one receiver if they could have just had. Aj browner de came metcalf. And not in the harry. They could have gone to the super bowl. I firmly believe they. Are that clever. Over there in new england with tom. Brady and bill belichick and josh mcdaniels. I believe they could have gone to the super bowl or at least made it past the first round right. I could be in tennessee. They probably could a beaten in baltimore. I think is who they have faced. And i believe they met kansas city in the championship game. That's just me though a bu- all the people who are complaining about the new england the season in the fact that they're not a really good team. Look at the team be realistic. We all saw the opt-outs we all knew what they lost in free agency for anyone to have expected this team to aben a twelve. Eleven win team again was just being unrealistic. The schedule and the pieces around the cam newton it none of it really spelled for instant success. They tricked us the first three weeks of the season and now we kind of know what they are. They're just a bad team. Injuries kovin lack of practice. Not much talent. This team is just not gonna. This is not their ear. Wait until next year. Wait until the season after that. Wait until we know who on earth a quarterback is going to be. Can we just wait for that. Let's just see who their quarterback is even gonna be. I'm gonna give bill belichick a few seasons to figure this out before him and a sit here and say Guys yet was all brady. Yeah it was all brady. I'm gonna give him some time Another head coach though in the nfl. Who i do not believe. There's any excuse for is anthony. Lynn anthony lynn with the chargers. Season in la. I really liked them. The charges were good not great. There were nine thousand seven. They had some bad brakes but it looked like the charges were on their way up. Because i think the season before what were they foreign twelve i mean they were just they were they. Were not good so anthony. Lynn kinda corrected the shit. The next season his second year there they went twelve and four were one of the best teams in the afc. Philip rivers was playing at an elite level. That defense was incredible. Everything for this team was clicking. And then they just they couldn't finish it off. What what is it they. They beat the ravens and they went to new england and they just didn't play well but most people. I think believe the charges will be back next season. They'd be one of the best teams in the afc because the roster was basically returning and in they for whatever reason. We're able to stay healthy that year. Maybe they'd be able to stay healthy again but they didn't. They battled some injuries on defense and on offense and philip rivers opened up a bakery again in with serving turnovers left. And right i think he and baker mayfield. Were you know he baker mayfield and jameis. Winston were all like in the top five turnovers. It just wasn't a good season and so they went ahead and they shipped out philip rivers. They didn't resign them. Philip rivers went to free agency. He went to the colts and this season. You looked at the charges and you said okay. So the offense is there keenan allen. Mike williams hunter henry the offensive. Line the running backs. That's there the defense ingram. Bosa the limbaugh that secondary with harris and king and haywar than Derwin james okay. This should be the year that the charges can actually do something. Maybe they'll win the super bowl but they should be able to get to the play. Offs taylor for his career has been a low turnover player. He's never really gotten the respect. The zoro's pro football focus has had him rated in three of his starving seasons as top. Fifteen like top twelve quarterback in the nfl. So taylor is better than people realize and they just opened up the season flat. It was the worst like week. One win i think i've seen from team and the team's is hasn't it hasn't been good and i think the thing about the chargers that has been very disturbing to me is that they have. They have a loser's mentality. there's a stat that kind of that's very fluid in the nfl. Typically if one season a team is very bad in one score games the next season. They're usually either good or at least they become average right in a season where you're losing every single while i like you go one in seven in those games the next season you are more likely to win more of those games than lose them or at least you break about even it's a very fluid stat but when it happens to a team season after season after season that means it's the team that means it is the mentality of the team in now for two straight seasons. The chargers have shown in inability to close out teams. They can beat up on you by one score by two scores by three scores and they managed to choke it. They choked against the chiefs. They choked against the buccaneers. They choked against the saints. They almost choked against the jaguars they flat out choked against the denver broncos they had the denver broncos dead to right they allowed the denver broncos to score twenty one points in the fourth quarter until the fourth quarter. Denver only had ten points until the fourth quarter. They had ten points in. You allowed them to score twenty one. The buccaneers they outscored you. Twenty four to twenty four to seven. I believe in the second half. This chargers team has has a loser's mentality. And i don't know how long anthony lynn survive it. And i have to say given what i have seen now for. Two straight seasons of seeing this team choke lead after lead through lead turnovers bad. Play calling conservative. Play calling not really trying to put the team away. I think you move on from anthony. Lynn and i like him. I think you give him a shot somewhere else. But in in la sometimes the head coach is good but the team just needs a new voice in the locker room. Sometimes that's just what takes the team needs a mentality switch. They need a culture switch. Because i think the culture right. Now that's being fostered with. The chargers is not a good one now. The organization might not want to do it. The organization might look at anthony lynn along with justin herber and they might say we wanna keep them together. Herbert came in with two anthony. Lynn we wanna to give these guys a full season with a full o. T. as in everything and see what happens then. Okay i can understand that i i. I wouldn't push back on that too much. But i will also say this with guys like brian ball and eric b enemy in some of the college head coaches that could be available on lincoln riley always gets brought up with some of these other guys in college and in the nfl. Right now. who could be coming up as possible head coaching candidates. I i guess. I just have to say. Is it worth it to keep a defensive minded head coach with which anthony lynn is. Is it worth it to keep a defensive minded head coach rather than pair. This young stud rookie quarterback in his second year with an offense. Play calling genius with a guy who's just maybe even the genius but who's just way more offense oriented and it's not like a requirement i must. It's definitely not required right. Lamar jackson you see what he's doing john. Harbaugh is not an offensive minded head coach. But you see what. Russell wilson's during the pete carroll. He is not an offensive minded head coach. Till you don't need an offensive minded coach. Maybe you switch to that and even just for a change in the mentality of the team because for them to be so bad at keeping lead for them to be so bad at closing games. Some of it is just an herbert. Because he's a rookie. But this has been going on for two years now so even with philip rivers. This is the mentality of the team. I think it's the mentality of the head coach. And i think there needs to be changed. You know you've got a young quarterback you gotta surrounding the best. You can and the mentality of this team moving forward. 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No Trade For Texans, Will Fuller Next Season & How Do Texans Improve?

The Sean Salisbury Show

2:56:10 hr | 2 weeks ago

No Trade For Texans, Will Fuller Next Season & How Do Texans Improve?

"I got shot. Bill quarterback. John shaw salisbury. This is the sean salisbury show. Welcome happy wednesday believe they called hump day. Yup is a burden a fork. Stick what it'd be two o'clock in the morning. I finally closed my eyes for about an hour and a half and here we are. And i still don't know why i stayed open because well kept them open because guess what it is. We still don't have to idea who who was the president. I state's going to be twenty twenty one and beyond but had a good night's sleep now worrying about it. Yep i went to bed about two ish and was was Slept with one. I'll but it appeared and that That eye-burning wakeup call an hour and a half later ain't good but welcome in. Mc brennan's here today in place. A josh see with all the stuff going on in the election. Have some business to take care of here. Got a lot of stuff going on in the building because we got all these shows gotta talk about it. And we're here to talk about also the texans and a block trade deadline and we'll discuss on why i wouldn't have made the move. That was on the table or at least appeared to be on the table for willfuller. Either will that and in rappaport believe is eight thirty today Our insider and nfl networks insider rap sheet on twitter to talk about the lack thereof of trades. It appears that janaka walkways ways. Trade to baltimore was biggest one of the trade deadline. So we'll we'll discuss that. Yeah i Excuse me what a night man. It you. You went to bed at a reasonable hour. Mcc i went to bed at nine. I fell asleep about nine fifteen. Okay i'm not gonna lie. A decent night's sleep. I feel good today. Man i sat there and just kept watching and watching it and watching and it was like groundhog and you still. You could still be doing the same thing because said we don't know anything right. God went to bed. And i was looking at like the states and where they were and who was up and who wasn't and an hour and a half later i woke up and it hadn't changed and as we sit here right. Now guess what. It hasn't changed so i you know. Now you're at chase mode. You know like when you're down two touchdowns you've got to chase sleep like when you've been gambling you chase bets and you're behind and i gotta chase sleep now so i got to chase it because i left it on the table last night and And didn't hit the sheets. The right time stayed up the whole damn near the whole time throat. I felt like. I should have been on the set. Does that make sense. Let's get out to shot salaries at your local denny's with voters type of thing. That's what i thought but now our been. Yeah that would have been that. Well it would have been just like it is. I wouldn't have been able to tell you anything more than what i told you what i went to bed. A couple of hours ago brandon. Welcome did you get the normal lights sleepover. You call it. But i got more than you did around midnight. It seemed very clear to me that we weren't gonna know anything this more groundhog day. Yeah and sean. I don't know if we're gonna know anything tomorrow. All i think you're right. I can promise you won't be up 'til two in the morning tonight wondering if the decision is going to be because of at eight made by about eight thirty or nine tonight. If we don't know they're gonna. I'll have to wake up and find out when i click on. Tv in the morning at a radio. Yeah i'm i'm not waiting this one out either but crowley in america only in two thousand twenty and we still like scratch our head and we can't get this right and isn't amazing. How oh man. When at one we run out of ink at another. They have a waterline bursts in another state. delay it. it's it's priceless man. it is just priceless How well it just kind of. It's a pit of is twenty twenty. Been like right. I didn't realize it so hard to counter vote. That's just me though. What i what do i know but i can tell you this. I know it's tough to make a trade. Yeah green bay packers losers texans probably losers in this but they one way with this first off the packers. I talked to john kuhn. I don't know if you remember him emcee but about yeah yes exactly talk to him at the last night about the reasons why the packers always do this. That they you know. They'll draft a quarterback they they'll trade a player but they never quite do anything. That uplift aaron rodgers. I mean when i say uplifting like adds to his he's supposed to elevate them right. Well i brought it up to him. I said you know. And i think we talked about a little on the show yesterday. Said johnny crazy to think that aaron. He's a victim of his own success. That he is so good that it's just when they get ready to pull the trigger on a trade or draft. Pick that say That's okay man. We'll just we'll just aaron will take care of it. I believe that and he said i one hundred percent. He does a 93.7. In milwaukee does like nine to noon the mid mid morning midday thing in in milwaukee is a radio show host does a good job get great energy and he said you're one hundred percent correct evans. He said he feels the same way. So it's almost as if aaron rodgers being good is prevented. The green bay packers over the years from upgrading. Where they needed it they really could have used to texas. Yesterday that could use willfuller could use. Jj watt because they're run defense was humiliating against dalvin cook. They gotta play a forty niners team this week. That runs the ball the great scheme they don't have the quite the runner dalvin cook is but they will try to run it and they were humiliated by minnesota. So they're losers on a team. That's super team three last year. They thought i mean even better this year. They thought but they can't stop the run. And you don't give adams and aaron rodgers and other weapon his the fact that he didn't give them a weapon like a willful or somebody else just reeks of no problem and you bail us. That's one on the other side here. The talk was that the packers were room divided on will fuller and what is value is. There's two there's too late if you wanted to rent him. If i'm the packers. I wouldn't have given up a higher traffic. The texans wanted a second rounder of allegedly that the packers were offering fourth-rounder and i would not have traded willfuller for fourth. Rounder wouldn't have done it. no. I'm proud of the texans for not coming off their mark. I will give them that. They are not in a spot to go and just hand stuff as much as we wanted them to trade stuff. I'm not happy they didn't make any traits. Fourth round pick was not going to be what you need to know. I think you would have been would have been stealing by the packers. I do now. Yeah the only thing for the packers why they offered a fourth rounder. In my mind was that it's a rental. Would willfuller sign long-term was he. Is he the player. Just one player. That could have got you to the super bowl. He can't play run defense and that becomes a problem Could he got a super bowl. I contend that a run snuka. Jj what would it help them more than will fuller because of his presence on the defense side of the ball and i fall into the trap to that well even without a receiver. Aaron rodgers is good enough to get the ball to other guys. You've never heard of not named davante adams but a fourth round. It wasn't enough. I would not have made that trade so the resistance not to give players away just for the fact that you'd say well we got a draft pick would have been worth it and so now if they'd have been offered a third round pick i would have had to say that something. You probably would've had to do considering now if you don't. He's coming back next year. You've got a three or four break. One as you're gonna have to franchise and play a lot of money to you're gonna have to give them a long term contract pam a lot of money three will what do you do. Just let him walk. And the compensation would be. I think they say a third round pick right now is what i read so the truth is if you hold off and let him walk get a third round pick it would be more valuable than the fourth round pick because that fourth round pick from the packers ain't going to be that high because they're going to win a lot of games so as you start to go around them not doing it even though it was a bummer. That didn't make a deal. And i thought maybe cooks stills would go somewhere to but they didn't is possibly mercilus is that they did the right thing. I would have given him away even on a rental for a fourth round. Pick third round. Pick different story. Second round pick is what they want to definitely have. They have had the packers of said. He's worth rental and we think we can re-sign him and give a second round pick. The texans wouldn't have done that then we we would have had a field day with them today but they actually made the right decision in my mind and it gives watson for the last nine games just another weapon that you know at least you know and the one thing even the watson said it and we said we'll made them. Let's let the front office make the decision. They didn't trade anybody worth any of the people in kalmyk dare said. He thinks playoff team this year. delusional yes. But hey throw it out there and hope it sticks and they get on a run but their defense isn't good enough to win nine in a row. Which dan here's what they're going to have to do to get in. the playoffs. Went eight have a chance to get nine. Wins but i would have made the trade either them see for fourth round pick. I i actually wouldn't have. I don't think any fourth round pick. It would take a lot of fourth round picks to come up with a guy that will be as productive as will fuller will be can be when healthy i think he would of lost trade off for a fourth round. Pick money or not. I do completely agree me. And we'll see what the if you don't keep him. What the compensation pick is if he stays healthy all year. I think the third rounder right. Third yeah i am. I'm not mad at them for not coming off of the fuller price and not trading him. I am upset that they didn't make any moves because again like we talked about yesterday that you just said the kalmyk near playoff team is delusional. It's stupid it's not going to happen there. One in six not a good football team they literally cannot stop any team that they play all the defensible. They should have traded away some pieces that they do not need because they're not going anywhere for some sort of picks because they don't even have the luxury of having a lot of them they have. What literally three through seven next year. And that's it in twenty twenty s and then again to a first round pick twenty twenty one i believe and then you know then they give the wants twenty twenty one twenty two hit they start to our twenty twenty two twenty two twenty. Three is what i'm saying. Because we are in twenty hit they start to creep back to normalcy right so no first rounder. This coming year in twenty twenty two they do have a first rounder and it starts to get back to okay. We can start to build something but until then You're you're stuck. With a bunch of sixth round picks. I believe don't they have like three. Sixth round picks this coming year. My crazy to think that don't don't they have a bunch of the fifth or sixth round picks. I think it's a bunch of six matters. I think now. Maybe i'm crazy but can pull it up. I believe i believe it's like three sixth round picks or something in his draft or they have access to two plus two now. They have two fours and then they have to sixes all right. So to sixes. So there's a lot of in the middle guys that they're going to try to go getting in the draft of save. It happens but getting add draft capital will fuller will stay here we will discuss and you can two seven one. Three two one. Two five seven ninety win-lose yesterday what do you think With a win. Or lose for the texans on on Trade deadline day. Now they come in and now you just cut it loose and play everybody. You know you keep paying your mortgage and rental until the end of the season depending on where you are with this team and as a player and wondering you'll deal twenty twenty one when it gets here now you just go play and see what happens. You got a quarterback who's never started a game plan against you. You're going to jacksonville crowds. I mean they don't minimal to no crowds in any stadium you go to and now you just cut it loose. I don't know what you have to lose but another game. 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Last night is going on and who the hell knows what it's gonna end and the smart ones probably did. Mc did side to catch in about eight thirty and say nope not today son dinner and you know just decided. Let's go ahead and go to bed. I did have my my election night. Dinner nice new york strip primed up. Dan salad dan sweet potato single malt and boom but at the the meal tasted good. But i didn't do good on finding out who the next four years. So oh well but we're here talking. Sports did the texans win this trade deadline or lose it. I think it gets an incomplete. Don't you just because they didn't do it in the if you had to lean one way. If you told me. I could only pick one way. I'd have to say lose just because they didn't off anybody that they should have because they're going to like the can't keep all those wide receivers next year. We know that they're not going to be able to afford it. They're over the cap right. Now they're gonna have to think about getting rid of whitney mercilus alike. You're not gonna keep some of these guys. I don't understand why you weren't able to ship them off and get anything. I it makes me wonder how serious the market was on them. And if you're offering a four for will fuller. I wonder if people were coming in like august. Sixth round for whitney mercilus recess of for kenny stills. And they just said well. Is it really going to help our football team any to ship. Somebody like that offer that price. They're going to have a lot of you. Think about what the general manager and the head coach are going to get heaped upon them. This offseason think about what's going when it comes to money and the hardcore decisions that have to be made about guys that we consider staple players for them right. Now our core of this franchise think about them. The money decisions. They're going to have to make they've been left with and guess who's going to keep it on jack easterby and that's okay because i wanna football person making football decisions jack. Easterby and and cow mcnair are going to get a gm hired by korn ferry. And then they're gonna say oh by the way here's all the things you've got to deal with We support you good luck. And and and then he's gotta go to work so i just. It's a task that i while i love the job. If you're if you're a gm you would obviously want that gig because well it's a football gig and you like a challenge but you gotta challenge you got your hands full trying to figure out what you're going to do with will fuller start to look ahead. Will there be off season movement What do you do at the wide receiver position. Heck we may very well have two running backs on. This team did get the majority of the work neither one here next. Yeah and there's i mean shouldn't be honestly right you start to roll up and down the roster and he starts well that guy might not be we're going to get rid of him this corners out and what it's going to look like if they're nuts. It'll look the same way next year. That'd be insanity. But i can't imagine a gm coming in is going to say. Yeah this is what i want our payroll to look like. And this is what. I want our production a look like because they sure as hell don't match now and gm gonna you hope you pay him a lot of money because he's gonna earn it. He's gonna earn it and the nuggets sale by the way did. We're sorry you don't have for pick so good luck. Yeah so so. What do you do now. You get to work on packaging. Somebody in the offseason. Save one bump bump and then you give away then. I wonder how it shifts to people do you in the offseason. Do people say well We're gonna give you more for two guys. You know for instance. Let's say you wanted to ship to couple of players in the off. Season the package to starters for one draft pick. Is that what you're going to have to do to a team. I just. it's going to be interesting to see exactly how this Football franchise and who they hire and how efficient this person is going to be and quite frankly if i was honestly a gm that was going to interview for this job if you knew that they were interested in you right. If you're agent is because make no mistake about it. The texans on korn-ferry's should be kind of whoever it is should be contacting korn-ferry's given suggestions and then telling candid should know that their candidate should yes by their agent just like a head coach in november. A guy who's looking around his agent knows that that jobs either common open or if it is open or if the they don't just contact them on a monday and sign them on a tuesday make sense so if you're an aspire an assistant gm if you're a former gm like john dorsey. If you're an aspiring guy that i that i would like a troy. Aikman that you want to do a john. Elway's done if you're somebody nick caserio. Let's just use him for an example. If you're him. I honestly you have to start on your side time on your lonely. Doing some lonely work at home. I honestly think you've got to start looking at this roster and staring it's our caps and crap you better get out in front of studying for your sat. Tessie houston all of a sudden. Wake up and say it's wednesday. Here you go man the sat. Saturday you better start. You better start prepping. So if you're a guy that thinks you're going to get an interview or your agents. Let you know you're getting one or you think you've got a shot to get one or you're hoping to get one and you've got to put a proposal together and you know like a coach. When the coach goes in so people know you'll have the general manager of people. Say okay up on the board or a head. Coach hires a coordinator. They'll go through their philosophy and talk and look at their background and their resume. And then they'll simply. Because if i was a coach and jack del rio now we're talking about this. I want the my coordinators. I want you on the board. Just like i would a quarterback before i drafted him. I would when we when he goes through his trips to teams. You guy. I want to get up on the board. I wanna pepper you with questions and find out what you know about coverage how you detect certain coverage. What do you do in certain situations. I'm putting you on there. Yeah beads of sweat role in your forehead. But these coaches put together. You know their their their presentation in a binder and what they'd come about if you're preparing for this jam job. You should better start putting that binder together now because when you waltz in their. If i'm the owner i'm jack easterby or i'm interviewing you. After korn ferry suggestion we've got a list of six or five dudes i. I'm going to pepper you. You're going to walk me through. Okay do you know the situation with willfuller but bingo do. You can't come walking near saying well. I haven't studied the roster yet. But i will when i get here. No you'd better come in and you better have studied this roster as if this was your roster before you get this job you have come in with like an eye on how to get yourself. That's exactly right and how you plan to move people what you do after watching tape on your own of of why cooks fishery doesn't of why duke johnson should play maury. Shouldn't of why david johnson's last snap here. In texans will be on the last game of the season and after that he's no longer whatever it might be oreos. You have to have a plan. Just like when i coordinate comes in or somebody puts me. I better know hell. When i went on my. Usc recruiting trip is as a top recruit in the country. Paul hackett and john robinson hudson hawk with me on my recruiting trip with my family at seventeen years old. Did they say son. We need to know how you're going to make us great. They they did basically well. They didn't need me to make them great. They had heisman trophy winner. About to be a heisman. Trophy winner in korea. Right and stay our future are what are you gonna do. Had paul hackett stuck me up on the board and we walked through coverages. and i've seventeen. Thank goodness i prepared. I didn't know they were going to do this. And then pat haden in my mom and dad. They're walking around campus and my mom and dad are being wined and dined while. I'm sitting there for about an hour and a half to two hours to grind. And i'm like good gracious. I this was my recruiter and then the rest of the trip is awesome but for a couple of hours like i didn't i didn't realize they were gonna come 'cause paul hackett. Who has anybody. That's been with him. Paul hack it's always been. He likes sometimes. Paul lex to meet to meet just to meet right but he is. He's a long meeting xs and os. That was his mo. And i loved him and he. He was incredible recruiter but he put me on the board and walked. We walked through. How do you cover to if we're going to do this you and i'm like okay. So had i not been prepared for it. They might have said well. We got a lot of work to do with this kid so at least the mental side. I knew it was going on. But you've got to have a plan man and so whoever. Gm is better bring a plan to at have their plan ready to present. Because i would walk in there and try to blow their doors off and say. Here's what i do to fix this because it needs some fixing. We will discuss sports talk. Seven hundred mc brendan. Today is a wednesday discussing texans. What they missed out on really not a whole lot to discuss over the trade deadline other than the winners and losers who you like and really looking into the second. Half of the season the push starts and it even starts here. Can they salvage something. So they're not humiliated the rest of the year. Can they pull out some wins and it starts this weekend for the houston texans sports. Talk seven hundred. Listen to sean hallsberg. Holes john salisbury sports. Ninety your home just baseball question question. I ask one question. The big one. The big question of the day on the sean salisbury show. We are thinking you know. How do we pose this question on the big one of the day and i guess it comes pretty simple. The texans i mean do they make the right move not moving anybody because that we can't put our finger on what was offered from other people because we don't know right again we really don't know other than what they speculate about green bay and the offer there so i guess i would imagine did Or the texans wise by not moving One of their current players. Yes or no pretty simple right better way i would say yeah i would still say no for me right brennan. What do think. I'd like to see them make a move. I don't know if they could got could got what was worth it. But i really wanted to see them sell something. Do you think optics player part in me. Ask you this do we. I i do you think the shawn watson. Has that much pull that they did that. Some of these moves offensively. They did not to like disappoint him. Do we believe this I don't even think he has to have poll just from the cow manure quote the other day talking about. I'm an optimist and we're trying to play for the playoffs. I don't i don't think even needs a shot in the head. I i would assume that sean probably has pulled if he needed to have poll. But i don't think the sean need to even attempt 'cause is clearly right okay. So on the other side of this would. The optics looked better. Even let's say you traded mercilus for a fifth round pick. What people have been happy with that in town seven three two one. Two five seven ninety. Do you think just the simple fact of making a move. What made this city happier would've looked better for them to trade a starter for a fifth round. Pick just because well. It's a draft pick. We ain't got many of them. That have mattered. If i woke up this morning Brennan tonight said and you guys did. Look i said. Hey you guys aren't gonna believe what happened man Mercilus traded for a fifth round. Pick balta. The pittsburgh steelers need another linebacker. And they traded for whitney mercilus and a fifth round pick. What would you have said Which i think pittsburgh ended up doing. Didn't they trade deadline by the jets got started a j. back. Go from eight to on the right for practice squad guy or something either. We don't even know who i can't even remember. That's how uneventful yesterday was. But i think every williamson wasn't at him didn't everywhere and get traded. He's a free agent. Yeah he's he's not. he's a veteran. he's not even a practice squad guy iraq. I'm trying to think because there was another guy that moved there was a well. I guess it was the one with the with the cowboys situation. Where you pluck somebody out the practice squad. Let him go. Every williamson's a veteran outside linebacker onate jets team and the pittsburgh steelers I believe it was pittsburgh traded for him. Yeah and he goes to the nba so he goes from eight two seven. Oh and he's got like a. I think i heard last night right. A million and a half salary for twenty twenty depending free agent remainder of salary. That is so they jumped on. It doesn't cost that much. Got another defensive body in pittsburgh and the jets. Let him go. So what an upgrade for him right. Everyone goes as a veteran outside linebacker. Now he heads to the excuse. Me and inside. Linebacker veteran inside linebacker goes to steelers and get an upgrade and they get another body so you say okay is it makes a big impact on pittsburgh no but it says linebacker. It says pittsburgh steelers have says. This is a seven. Oh team that makes a move right there. I mean they made a move at seven and also the optics and pittsburgh say we're trying to upgrade. We're getting another inside linebacker for depth for us from an eight team. Well we think that he can help regardless of how much but it looks to the people in pittsburgh we'll we're going for and they are and they're seven. Oh so you go get a gun and eighteen. It's only a a big swing for him. He gets a chance to go from the seller to a super bowl possibility so for here. If i told you guys morning. He woke up. And i said they are edge. Rusher whitney mercilus fifth round. Pick traded traded. I for for for a good team. Whoever it is like the top ten team said we'll run the green bay. Let's just for the helmet. Say green bay traded for whitney mercilus. What would you said for a fifth round pick. I think a lot of people have been like okay. Sure cool waiting. Merciless doesn't move the needle enough but let me to me. You're fine with it. Yeah to me. I would have been fine with making that move just because you need as many draft picks as you can get because if you can package to of your later picks to move up one round into the fourth there then well that's higher than picking in the fifth or sixth fourth and six for a third or something. You're right okay brandon. If i if you woke up this morning i said. Hey whitney mercilus was trade for a fifth round. Pick i honestly. I think i have a tough time with that. Because if all you're getting is fifth or six. I think i look at it and say you don't have a gm to make those kind of decisions. I'd rather let the guy who gets hired decide if mercilus is worth that. Which is why. I don't know that they were ever going to get what you wanted to get a bit different if you had your draft picks right because then there's a legitimate benefit to trading out pieces but because you have your don't have your first. Who cares if you win a couple extra games. Yeah we'll take what you mean. The difference between two and four games at all right a matter for the dolphins. But not for you right. And so for instance. Like when i tell you that that joe douglas he makes deal so he trades you know williamson and a twenty twenty. Two was a seventh rounder. I believe in that deal had to look it up but they got. I think a fifth rounder in return. So you got an inside linebacker place for you and a seventh rounder in a we a year a year from now drafting twenty twenty to forty fifth rounder. So if you're the pittsburgh steelers fans do you say why would we give up an asset or okay. We get two guys. We get a linebacker with depth inside where we need it right now because we're a super bowl team anna a seventh-round or a year from now but we're also given up We'll give you back a fifth ryder. Does that look good for steelers fans optics wise. I see. I think it looks better for them. Why because at seven. Oh you're thinking in your mind. Maybe one expert gives us death and we got a chance to win it all right where the opposite is true. And that's the comparison. I'm trying to make the opposite is true here. It's like okay. We got we got a fifth. Rounder for whitney mercilus. Brennan your point is taken well mcevers. Is you guys are both on different ends of it. For the most part the production matches as much animal k. Move mercilus meaning you. Mc and brennan. You say i would. I wouldn't like that but now what if it were flipped. It was flipped. If you're the seven zero team right pretty damn good at different story different. I think you've got to win it. Rally optics change depending on the record and who you're giving up to get right. Yeah when the texans were good when the kubiak air was here they made a trade for somebody at one point. And i think it might have been derek mason and it was kind of like i mean he was at the end of his career but it was also like man like they actually went out and did something like this feels really good. They've gone out and done something in the middle of them being great right well of all the teams that the texans one of the biggest going into the just the trade deadline throughout the you leading up to it and even you know the weekend and boom nothing and through monday and tuesday and nothing so they stand and they're gonna run this race here the second half of the season to see what you can get out of it which again i'd be evaluating hard if i was this football teams coaching staff and front office evaluating the coaches as well as well find out a lot about who they say they are and what kind of talent they actually have. Second half of the season and that'll head into next year. Which i think people care more about now because well at one six. It's very hard to get fired up about a football team. Sports talk seven ninety. That poll question is up at sports. sports seven ninety on twitter. Gonna vote share with your friends. Tell us what you think it is. It was very quiet deadline for the most part pittsburgh upgraded a little bit jets. Get a couple of draft picks. They're trying to build assets and in gakugei even before yesterday seems to be the biggest trade. You get a pass. Rusher and ed rusher in baltimore leaving minnesota and then bingo. He's got chances well to be in a super bowl. It is sports talk. Seven hundred whitsett vision dot com. Excuse me well. I you know what i can do doctorates it. I you know what i'll do. Doctor i may be a little segment early. But that's okay. Dr with jeff whitsett at whitsett vision dot com. I got the blended leg sick. And you say what's blended lacy glad justed one eye for distance left the and you say well. Why did you do that. Well because i want to read. I don't like glasses and readers. And i don't like contact so sitting in bed or reading. I could see clearly now. The rain is gone sale when i did their cheesy line. I just gave from a song. But i can. And it's the other one. I can adjust another time. So now i don't have to so i can see golf ball down. Go to movies. Read a book. All those things without squinting without saint man my i. I'm so tired of squinting. And i need to put context now and you could do the same thing. I use my free consultation with dr jefferson. People kept telling me how good he is. So i said well let me go visit him. Seven one three three six five nine seven nine. nine high fastball. Come i suppose junior of houston astros. You're listening to sean salisbury. On sports talk seven nine lance mccullers out about the performance. Your home for houston astros baseball power. The one brandon's here josh. See out today without today but -nother assignment mc here with me three to five seven nine. You know. i'm curious. How many guys on this team. For instance how many guys on this team if you went through the whole roster not guys that are untouchable that you wouldn't trade. I'm talking about if you were putting everybody on the trade trading block for instance what would you get from max scharping second into his career draft in the second round. What do you think you'd get form today. Fourth maybe right think about how quickly valued drops like an automobile man. It's it's weird and a lot of them. Were you drive the old the old cliche drive it off. The lot of devalue it right off the bat right unless a car or certain cars and vehicles that hold their value probably quite like players. Thank you So sharp titus howard. You think you'd get a first round. Pick for him two years after he was drafted. Absolutely not okay for laremy tunsil. Would somebody pay two number ones for him to number ones. No but i think it could still get one. No question i wouldn't. I could prego i in a third. Maybe i wouldn't get a first because those guys are hard to come by. They are but there's no way to once for him if he turned around and traded him tomorrow. So okay watson. Could you get to number ones from him for him today. Yeah you better. You better get three Say i wouldn't do it if i was a team. I wouldn't three number. I wouldn't do it either team. But now if i'm trading him. I can't do it unless i get three months form. At least maybe full whether you do it or not. If you're the texans. I'm just saying what if we put we put value on somebody like the guys coming out of the draft. You know he's a nine eight right. How people putting number value on them. So i'm putting a trade value on him if you were stamping with the trade value. And say here's what here's what you have to give to get to sean. What we take if negotiation. But here's what it is and this is bottom line. This is my final offer right. What what you'd probably ask. What would you get for him though in truth can i don't think anybody be crazy. I mean is good as he is. There's very few people. I'm giving mahomes may be the only player in this league. I'd give up three number ones for right now. I wouldn't do for lamar. I wouldn't for murray. I wouldn't at this stage of the game. I wouldn't do it for russell. Wilson is good. He's gonna win the mvp then the reigning mvp lamar jackson. I wouldn't give up three number one zero. I still think there's some things that that not that concerned that he's a good player and got a chance to be a great player. I still think there's some concerns. Let's say what's under the hood when it comes to consistent passing right. I think there's those those questions with. Russ wilson the simple thing. He's in his thirties and wall. He can win you a super bowl. Is it worth it. If rust goes to a good team and he wins the super bowl to give up three number wants to mortgage. You're getting that one. Super bowl matters psychic. The denver broncos didn't have drew lock and they said well. Would you take russ for three number ones. I don't think i'll do it. Aaron rodgers and get me three number ones right now. I would not do it. Joe burrow as good as he's going to be wouldn't trade three number ones for him. The truth is there may be only two guys right now in the league ones in the league in one's not that you may be able to do it for one's a quarterback in kansas city and the other is the quarterback clemson look around lear. Who else you give it up three number one for no running back sure as hell. The best wide receiver in the league went for a two okay so which was stupid but it went for a to these. Start to look around. Okay so you start to look at the best defensive players. Mac got a couple of ones but he wouldn't trade to number one for khalil mack. Today no you wouldn't win is good as said donald now dons perfect case in point would you trade. Three one swarm. no now. he's he's he's getting closer to thirty and he's also while it's a pre hit he's a he's a disruptor. He didn't have the ball in his hand. Sixty five seventy times a game right so right. Can you think of anybody in the league. You'd give now. I'd ask for three number ones for watson. Russell misunderstand me. I would but i'm just saying okay when you go through this. Here's the value. Here's this here's the sticker for these guys right here. Here's what you gotta pay. Jj watt. Here's what you've got to pay for. Nick bosa. Here's here's what we here's what i'm it's not. A matter we're not negotiating. This is non-negotiable. When you go buy your iphone right mc you don't get to go into the apple store and say hey man i'd like to take that twelve hundred dollar price inputted at eight hundred right. This is what you're paying and we not. So what so. I would not pay three number ones for watson. And i think he's a top five player. It is positionally top. Five top six right now i do. I wouldn't pay three. Emory wants for for. Jackson said murray and i think both of those guys i already know onesie. Mvp and i think another one both watson and murray are going to be in that talk and category over the next decade right so hell you probably wouldn't get a number one for baker mayfield right now. Oh hell no. You wouldn't get a number. One for sam darnold i. If all of a sudden somebody called you up and if you call somebody up and said hey this one for an example. Let's use minnesota. Let's just use that for an example can take the money out of kirk cousins. What he's making right. Let's just for the hell of it and minnesota and kansas city called minnesota and said man we you know you're not going to play out this year. We'd like we'd like three number ones. We'll give him a home. Three or three. First round draft picks minnesota would do it. of course they would only team. I mean every team. There's only a couple teams in the league. Wouldn't in those guys. We wouldn't do it here. Because you've got watson or you wouldn't do it in seattle. I would do. I would do it here. I just trade. Yeah we need to there. That's something we should discuss. And how will you would so. Is there another player. The league you give up three number one for today legitimate three number ones sees already there. So it's not like we're swapping number one picks. I'm talking about you. Go to a team and said i gotta have number ones this year and your number one next year for watson for mahomes any team with it would say if you didn't like your quarterback and maybe even if you did you'd still have a hard time not taking mahomes over anybody right for three number ones. I would and i'm telling you right now. The only other guy that probably would command it in. This draft is is lawrence. What i'm saying the people would be hard pressed. If you said. I can get trevor lawrence for three number ones. It may be worth it. I don't think there's anybody else in a league that would get three number ones one in college one in the nfl and some may argue that you couldn't get three number ones for lawrence. I think some would pay it. I think he'd be session. I think he'd be second on the list. Mc with the rookie contracts to. Yeah that helps he. He's not into it like to me. You bring up the other names. That are in rookie contract still l. They don't have as many years of left there's going to be less willingness to do as many pictures. You think that you would do not team in this league. Just got a rookie guy a quarterback or any other position under a rookie contract if they could get trevor lawrence and that's including arizona or or did they would they would trade our current for him. I believe that is good as these guys can be hell. I'm not so sure baltimore. Wouldn't change their offense for trevor lawrence. You know what. I mean instead. Lamar jackson i honestly had mahomes may be the only one The you'd you'd say well because there there's only about four dudes in a league that you right now that teams from judge when i'm not saying he's better than them talking about just the perception right value. That you take lawrence would would would probably be and we heard steve palaiseau tells us month and a half ago that he'd probably be top three or four guys of all the guys in guys in the league which is crazy right but mahomes to me is the only current. Nfl player that i'd trade three number one three number ones four. That's saying something. Because we got some good quarterbacks but i think he's the only one we'll discuss mc trade he'd take heed trade three number ones from homes right now in houston if they had them and then move lots of interesting think. He's that good. I think there's a lot of people may agree with you on that to see sportstalk. Seventy sean salisbury rachel. Our number two next this is alison connolly and astros fan from the woodland's and this is your shot at one thousand dollars on sports. Talk seven ninety text. This nationwide keyword family f. a. m. i l y two two hundred hundred you'll get a confirmation extend info standard data and message rates. Apply this station wide contest. Text family two hundred hundred pages. Very this. is the sean salisbury. Show hour number two quite a few people in that poll question believe the texans did the right thing but trading. Yesterday i do believe m. c. here brandon here on a wednesday election. Still going on. We don't have Don't know who the new president or in combat it's going to stay in and president trump or joe biden as they still go on and pulls about six states still left to talk about. Trade deadline came and went texas. Didn't do anything. And i do agree with the texas on this. I would not have traded will fuller for a fourth round draft pick. I think it was wise. I do. I wouldn't have done it. I think you're giving away guy now. I don't think you're going to get now. If the compensation is he walks is a free agent and as as a team. I wouldn't have offered more either. So i get both. The packers needed a player. But as willfuller the one to take you over the top and remember you're renting him at least that's perception unless you can sign him to a long term deal but that's a risk because you're not signing to a long term deal before you traded form yesterday and that's he's he's going to be a free agent and the compensation is supposed to be a third round pick packers allegedly traded. We're going to trade a fourth round. Pick the texans wanted to number two a to. You have to be under contract and they'd has to work for me. I can't give away to for rental. Especially unless that rental is well deondraye hopkins although it's not a rental in arizona but if i'm giving up a second round pick for hopkins i sure as hell i mean. The texans traded the best receiver arguably in football for a second round. Pick and a player. Quite frankly isn't going to be on is not much of an impact and then a shift the second round pick right to the ranch. Receiver feels like going to be a rental branca right okay so there that's right and so if you're the packers you're thinking why the hell would i give a second round pick. You just got a second round. Pick for a guy who's better than will fuller. So why would i do that. And not only that you telling me. I get him for eight games plus the playoffs nine game. Whatever the packers you know how many games got left. No can't do it. So if you're the packers i would not have done it either for a second round. Pick the texans. I would not have done it. And they didn't for a fourth round pick and nobody was willing to get to the third round pick hence the texans stand pat there one in six. They play the jacksonville. Jaguars and a quarterback who's never started a game they'll win they'll get two and six and watch how the optimism grows and guess. How many wins. They have teams outside of the jacksonville. Jaguars and twenty twenty none but jacksonville. They own jacksonville. This right to it all the look good. Yeah that's exactly right. So it's it's curious. But i know that the optics say man. We just needed to make a deal. Which tells me that. If there was stills interest cooks interest. Cobb interest merciless. Interest or watt interest. It was really really kinda just blah interest that none of the teams thought that those guys were going to really impact their team for the price that if they did call. I don't know we thought they call cleveland browns. We said well we're going to go get a receiver or somebody else. you'd think. What the hell are they doing. Not getting anything right so you you. I don't know so teams if they feel you're desperate will try to hold you hostage and say well you gotta give up more on some teams with assets or not there. They are a precious commodity people. Now they just don't want to part ways with draft picks most teams. Don't but the texans did not they don't have many and they didn't get any but i would not have traded as much as we criticize them. They actually made the right move by not giving away willfuller for a fourth round. Pick and i wouldn't have done it. I mean i is crazy as it seems that the texans didn't do something we could be happy about it on that one. I still am happy. That didn't give up him for nothing because that would have been nothing. Now the question is are they keeping him. That's my next thing is are they going to keep willfuller. I think when you keep him like you did at the deadline. You're you have the thought process right now that you're going to keep him this offseason. You could let them walk and get the calm. But i think they're gonna wanna keep him around and they're do it on the franchise tag which means you have to move a bunch of stuff to make that happen and it'll make him top-five paid receiver in the league. Thanks about that for a second. Soak that one answer over. Seventeen million bucks season won't be fun right mentioned yesterday. It's going to push it was gonna push eighteen million dollars and that'll be for one year which you say okay. Is it worth it for one year. But if they signed him long-term if he wants an average eighteen million or more a year think about what's he want five years for one hundred million bucks. Now what right. I mean i guess he can ask for it. He could for the four years at eighty million. Seventy five million. I mean wouldn't tell you ten foot pole with you. Hell no no good player. Don't misunderstand. I think he's really good player but i now hey if he goes through this whole season available. He's he's he's a good player. Are you sure without unequivocally that he's a number one on a team with other receiver. Okay as he is the number one in seattle now is he the number one in arizona. No not even close is either number okay. Is he a number one. In cleveland and beckham out is he. He can be a number one but no better pass catcher. He's the most consistent guy right. he's not going to be the he could be the number one in a game every once in awhile shirt because he number one is number one or two in tampa no okay. he's number four vising number one in chicago now. No but he can. He can have a week where he's talking about. When you line up say every insistently. Now is the number one in green bay now probably the in baltimore. You'd probably like. Oh they've got about three twos right. Come one a one type of they'd kinda share that right so it's not you wouldn't say he's my no brainer number one because holly-hollywood browns pretty good player right. So you got that okay. So i'm just picking teams off. Is he'd number. One is the number one in pittsburgh. Hell i'm not so sure that claypool juju smith schuster fighting a battle for number one right now. Klay polls play like dante johnson. Too right so you get where i'm going right. You get going so really in truth on really good. Txz number one at kansas city. No i'm joe. Som- thrown out playoff teams and teams. That are going to be in the super bowl contention. Is he number one. When michael thomas is our number one new orleans. Either right and i'm listen. I think we'll is a really good player. But what you're going to have pay him going with what you're saying. Mc if they if they franchise him or try to sign him long-term we just named nine receivers that you would take before him. Yeah you would take before. What i'm saying is your legitimately on a good team. Now's either number one in the with with the jets. Of course he is. I mean let's be. Yeah yeah okay. Yeah he is but he's not number one in minnesota but jefferson and phelan right. He not number one in buffalo with steph digs. No so you see where. I'm going with this. If this if it goes the way you say it could you're gonna pay eighteen million bucks for what appears to be a guy probably in your top twenty but not in your top ten. Maybe in the mid teens right ban on all those playoff teams that we just named. He's not sure number one receiver. That's called timing right to get paid like that. It's called time it's not and that's why we always say the next guy who gets paid when dad gets paid which will. And if he bypasses watson salary doesn't mean decks better than watson it just means his timing was a little later in the right place right and the cowboys continued to to play offense their. They're now guess what that means dak prescott price keeps going up in dallas every single game that they don't score and that dude you start to look them than the appreciation comes goes through the roof. He's gonna get paid period. He just gonna get paid so will fuller. I wouldn't have given away for a fourth of but now you gotta start to look lousy number one number one number one number one and you're going to have to pay him like a number one if you keep him and he's not a number one on eight playoff team to ten platini's we just said according to our and i. I don't think we're crazy to say that he's not number one in tampa okay You get where we're going here so gonna be interesting to see how that turns out. Sports talk seven ninety. We'll stick it out next questions and some answers right here on sports talk seven ninety minutes t clinic. Hey are you struggling. First of all guys get your energy levels. And let's get them up now. Let's normalize testosterone. 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Enough for will fuller. Would you have made that deal. Poll questions up. Come on in seven one. Three two one two five seven ninety. Let's take it out. Mc let's start with you We have not mentioned this yet but the astros had three guys that were finalists for the gold glove award to bring up this hour. So i'm glad you did. Carlos correa specifically none of the astros wanted a career did not win it. All the voting now for the gold gloves is based on metrics and not. The human eye at all is the dumbest thing. Ever 'cause. i watched korea this year. Thought there's nobody even close to him in terms of defense at shortstop. Yeah and so. But aren't we going to. That isn't it. This is the part that drives me nuts about sports is we are so computer driven. It's a well you do me. Well you gotta do is look at the world series right and a manager. Who didn't who didn't use his his eyeballs to take a look in and actually watch. What is what blake snell was doing and it costs them and may very well have cost him a world series in the maintenance they may they may not have won but they sure so may have so yes i mean. I don't know when you watch. I understand you got to move. We would would we gotta take the metrics of it and but there's gotta be an eye test doesn't there doesn't it be one anti missed out. No astros win the gold glove. I guess we could go through the whole list of winners. I got him in front of me. I'm sure you do too peres white. Hernandez crawford was the shortstop in the american league. J p crawford. Felisa gordon liu era. I like louis ro bear. But is louis robert joey gallo and griffin canning in the american league. Are your gold glove winners. No carlos correa so there you have it and i so for me. Yeah i'm with the mc. He plays shortstop like a guy. Who's about old. you know. We used to look at like five ten with all that range. This is a this is a guy who when i was growing up guys like this now can was tall but guys like this played right field first base honest to god they did and you got a slick fielding we we used to call slick fielding shortstops. Where where the guys who were just that that middle infielder. You know what i'm talking about. I stay right. That's exactly right at the guy. Here adam ever right fielding shortstops. We used to call it the same as what we used to call Dual threat quarterbacks. Oh well if. You're a dual threat quarterback ten twelve years ago. That's exactly where you were actually running quarterback who could throw against air but when you're playing catch but when it really got the throne we didn't take you that serious matter of fact we even considered moving to another position. That's the way the talk was. It's the same thing here. Oh man slick fielding shortstop oh you know what that means got can't hit now you got six four hundred and twenty pound rifle armed shortstop. Who's a five tool player when healthy and we just throw it into a computer and the eye test says look what he does that a guy quite frankly about six inches shorter and probably forty pounds. Lighter does so time to change at that position rather we got a lot of emmy hell from seeing. We got a lot of those guys that are starting to come at nobody with an arm that fields. It better than him right. I mean he's he's in the category and it's almost like we just he's made so many plays that we just take it for granted when we're voting for this stuff so i'm with you one hundred percent in. He should be pissed too by the way because he is. You know that that stuff matters. He's in the last year of arbitration. Having that on the accolades list might have made an extra million bucks an arbitration this year ban. You know what hopefully that when you see that you could say listen. I may not actually hold the trophy. But i deserve the award that makes sense. Yeah all right. What do you got for me brandon the tampa bay buccaneers activated antonio brown yesterday and he's expected to play sunday. I'm curious two things one. Do you think he makes to the year in two if he does. How big of a deal is he going to be for the box. What is he has a player. I think listen. I think the unequivocally i think he's gonna make it through the year i do. I think veteran leadership if he does if if the reason he does not play now we say make it to the year. I'm not saying he's gonna have a hamstring. i'm talking about. You're talking disruptive right. yeah i this. If he's disruptive and goes all twitter crazy you know what. I'm saying some of the things we've seen antonio brown do now. I hope it's mental. Health is good. I care more about that than i do. About how many balls he can i do. I talked to michael irvin as i said. I think i mentioned it yesterday. But i talked to michael irvin. Maybe i didn't To nine that last night the night. Before and mike and i were talking and i said that antonio brown and he wants the same things for him that troy aikman and i guess i did talk about this but the troy aikman brought to him about caring and being given and going to bat for him and really having his back in troy did and it's the same thing with microsoft is horrible times even as a player and it's good and mike was very open about it and he was talking about it on a show and i love it. And that's been one of my favorite things about michael irvin is transparency and just put a passionate game. He is but he wants that. Fran tonio brown and the the mental health important. There's no doubt brennan. I think he is going to finish. Because i think he realized at least i hope he does with veteran and bruce arians will not put up with the one thing about. He will not put up with crap. Get outta line for two seconds on a super bowl caliber team. I think bruce running out of the building. I do in a hurry if that happens. I don't think you will. Because i think he realized this is. He getting more chances after this if he doesn't do it there with with this and they're not going to give him another chance especially if it's like he goes haywire which i hope he doesn't hopefully he's learned. He's been silent on twitter going about his business. I think he's listen just his presence alone changes the way. You gotta play defense because remember his last full season a plan. He caught fifteen touchdowns. That's two years ago and so he's got fresh legs and he knows how to practice. The guys will work when he's on the field he works and he's a great route runner. And quite frankly when everybody's healthy probably third or fourth best option right now and yet on a lot of teams. You'd be your best option. Win the normal antonio brown's playing on the field so i think he is going to finish the season i think is impact will be felt and i think tom brady is going to make sure of it because he's kind of put his name he's he's he's ready you know put his shoulder against let's go and his name's on it so i do. I think it's gonna finish. And i think this just adds another weapon to an already dangerous team that hasn't even reach their fullest potential at. I actually think this can be a great get. And i think he's going to Mind his ps and qs. when he's in tampa. I do if not. I don't think that's a big risk because all you gotta do so. We're not tied for that much money to do. We'll just would just ask you out the building if you're going. You know not fitting in as a teammate. I think hopefully antonio brown for him to peace of mind. I hope that. I hope for his sake that he does get it that he does get it and understand. But you're right the weapon alone if you're defending say well let's just single antonio brown. Don't you think that's dangerous. I if he's anything the antonio team. I don't know how you deal. And they got the inside outside of joe of of of of Evans of the running back position to you. Got the evans and godwin and gronkowski. They got the tight ends. And then you had antonio brown and then you've got four net that can hit you inside and they can run it out. They got everything they got. They got a quarterback who knows how to win in january. So yeah i think antonio brown you're exactly right if he's right physically and mentally and emotionally. This will end up being a great get in the second half of the season and he will play this weekend. No know how much but he will play and he is active and we'll be in uniform mc well got Nba rumors starting to swirl. All over the place talk Well we can do that later. I would assume this one is about cuco because he is. I think the biggest name to watch on all this. There's a report out there. That he would not sign an extension with the golden state warriors. And he got traded there because they are apparently going to try to make offers to the milwaukee bucks. Form this offseason. He apparently we sign one if he got traded to the heat. Do we think janas plays in. Milwaukee an extra completely reached the point for me that i think at worst next year since last year. That's what i was about. Say i think yes. He'll play this coming season with with the milwaukee and remember. We asked a question about a year ago. Mc we are talking about him and had asked the question is will he be lifelong millwall. We're big fish in a smaller. Nba will he be a lifelong milwaukee bucks and we thought at the time. The yeah maybe because you know. He's seems happy they're winning. They're going to pay him and then all of a sudden we start. Well all this talk. And now i don't believe he's going to be a lifelong milwaukee buck. I'm gonna go with the he finishes this one more year there and then he's playing somewhere else brennan. You think different. I i i agree. I don't think he. I don't think he's long for the milwaukee bucks and you said. Mcu agree as well. I think miami. Miami is apparently. He lives there in the offseason now. He's got a house in miami. Milwaukee will not be his final destination and speaking of which just add to that. I asked john kuhn last night. Do you think. Aaron rodgers is on his last football team and he said he does not think he finishes his career in green bay. So there's two of the biggest stuff. Well the biggest stars in wisconsin right now and people think that both of them are going to be planned somewhere else man alive times of change stars. Don't stay in the same place much anymore. It's sports talk seven ninety. Sean sows show carrying out. In and our ian rapoport from nfl network. Join us footing. The logic illogical former. Wrong sean salisbury continues to break it down seven ninety sports. Talk seven ninety. We were discussing jaanus and obviously we've been discussing. It has a lot of the people on twitter that are responding to the poll. of what did they. The poll question and the big one did the texas do the right thing. But i'm making a move yesterday. And i think you're getting mixed on. Both some say should add a fire sale others. Say no let the next. Gm fix it and let him make those moves since we don't know what's going to happen with the current front office and people involved. So i get both but that's a up at sports seven hundred on twitter and you can check that out and see how that goes See how that goes for you and chiming on your vote. Share with your friends. We also discussing on the on the stakeout about janta compound. Where does he end up. And none of us of thus three brandon. Mike mc and me believe that he's going to be a milwaukee buck much longer meaning maybe one more year and then he's placed somewhere else. Miami is golden state in play somewhere else and then james harden comes into play there will. Twitter was running rampant. Yesterday i believe shams was talking about that. They're maury and they're gonna do try to china and get the work trade how much validity it has. I mean i trust people to talk about it because some of these insiders seem to have the ear of a lot of people and the trust of a lot of people. So i just can't fathom that the that the rockets were reward depending on what the value is in return and send james harden to the seventy sixers in a trailer. I wouldn't think so but why is there is it. Is it just the banter. Because darryl is on his way to to to philly and he loves james harden or is it. Is it really legs to this. Did maybe james wants to go to because well even though he loves houston he's never going to have any more pulling any organization that he has here in the city but the disheartened wanna. Is it time for him to step out. He wanna follow. Daryl morey because well the daryl you know built an off or put a system in hired the coach to put the system and and they need three point shooters there. Would it happen. Ben simmons for hardening ain't happening. I can i can assure you that i wouldn't be stupid to go. And punt on. They have for a package from them unless it included all their draft picks for the next five years and at that point. That's to me. This all feels like bruins stuff up against the wall because this is what the nba and drama loves to do. This is the part about reporting in the nba. That i hate. This has absolutely no legs to it to me at all. I don't get it. They're locked into this hardened ride unless he goes to them and says i want out. He's not going anywhere and he's not going to them. And saying i want out to go to philadelphia yeah. I'm just curious about what. I didn't see a whole lot of of what's being offered their speculation. But what are you going to have to give up. Let's just assume that this was serious. What are you going to give up to get him on the rockets. I'm not doing it in joel. Embiid period and out. And whatever you gotta do to make the salaries match right at that point. Like i can't do a deal where it's anything less than that because i have no interest in tobias hairs i have no interest in al horford at all and i have no interest in ben simmons i can only do it for embiid and whatever else makes it work man i i when i saw that yesterday on my comment is this just did to piss people officers to keep you know. Nba talk in in you know at the forefront of our conversation. It'll be weird. I mean i don't know. I mean i would imagine daryl will make the call right. I mean if you want him you've got to make the call but are you willing to you. Darryl in some of the sound we had yesterday talking about his feelings on joel embiid but of course you're the new. Gm there doc rivers them. I would assume doc would say if we're going to give up. Embiid get hard and i think doc would complain about that would you. I mean does i know in beads. A hell of now. You're gonna have to change things but if you just talking about the best offensive player. I mean who who. The better player is right now depending on what you want. But if you're looking for points and consistent performance on the offensive end will then james harden good get but which way are they going to go. And how's it gonna coach it to me if i'm the sixers i can't go and putt all the years. I still have left embiid. I know he has an injury history. But like i wouldn't go from twenty early twenties mid twenties guy from to a guy that's going to be thirty one and that is the next year. That's the next point. Is it worth it or is thirty one. Let me ask you this is it is thirty one years. Old harden is right. Yeah i is it worth it to say. Okay there's risk on both ends right wants thirty one and the other's been ba- gets banged up correct. So wh where's the worth you willing to take the risk if you're philadelphia saying well we think. Nba is going to be healthy enough and just fine. And if you're the if you if you were to make the deal you willing to say we got what four years and left. I don't know so really on both sides. It says it seems odd right. You've got the youth of mba and you've and there's a fixture here and in a situation that boy they'd have to give a lot and then making salaries work. I don't i don't see how either side says this is a great gig. Does that make sense. Yeah i think like the six the six or side you'd be you'd be more excited about it because you got the mvp on the short term. Of course the short-term. Yeah now i mean like i just don't i think this is all just people. Doing the one guy goes here. Let's make the assumption that this is going to happen because clearly the rockets something in the front office in something inside the building over there broken. We could just be honest at something is broken. There's a reason why there's been this mass exodus of people. And i think it's easy to make the assumption that the best player would ask his way out to. The best player is not going to. Because one i think he loves playing for the houston rockets. Because like we've talked about a lot. He loves having the control. Basically the franchise. He's got now. You could question how much pull or control he has. If you believe the stories about the coaching search. Which i i don't think james harden's probably mad at all. I mean he might have had a guy he preferred to be the head coach. But is it like we always questioned a coach. Gonna make a difference in james harden so into it you want. I don't think james james harden to me doesn't ever he does not come off as a guy that wants to go to a high pressure city period. And that's a philadelphia. There's no houston. It's hands off and philadelphia tans on by media fan everybody and there's some history sixers wise as well and a very very they love when you win and it's really really hard you don't get to hide when you lose. You know what i'm saying. It's it's difficult that saint james will wanna be. You know what. I'm saying you're exactly right. They're much more high pressure but wouldn't let let's just say daryl morey took a job somewhere else though any team wouldn't we be saying the same thing. Oh they're going to try to get hard and we would be hearing the same thing. Wouldn't we tied in because we'll darrow left so of course it's not just because it's the sixers it's because daryl mores with the sixers if daryl morey was on his way to sacramento would we be saying Daryl's gonna try to get james their right. Of course. I just i think there's more of that. It's just the the obvious. Because maureen connection to james harden in the city. Then it is that. Oh my gosh. That seems like a natural fit for james. Go seventy six right. There's no more natural fit in this. Nba than james harden is a houston rocket. Considering what he likes to do and how. Everything's catered to him correct. Yeah exactly this is all he. He doesn't have a better situation for himself and he has here period and and it comes out of his mouth where he says i want out. Yes and that's that. I'm not gonna have anything agree one hundred percent all right. Hey if your roof over fifteen years old it probably needs to be replaced right well. Wrong sean salisbury here. 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Date is inevitable while the nba players association has advocated for january eighteenth start date culminating with martin luther king day another tent Pull the nba schedule. Along with christmas. Right the disagreement amounts to the most tenuous issue still up for debate between the two sides Supposedly the financial financial ramifications of december start loom large because television networks in league partners wanting a christmas day start the christmas week generating hundreds of millions of dollars. We'd mentioned yesterday between a half. A million a half a billion and a billion dollars of additional revenue in the schedule returning to normal october to june timetable for twenty twenty one. Twenty twenty two so this will be the last so called the effects of cova ten games less starting december and once the season ends your back to your normal in other season ends the back to your normal start date. October season ends in june. Nba finals and you start oct and start all over again getting back to your normal regular scheduled programing with the nba. The money's gonna win on this and we are going to have a seventy two game schedule and they are going to start in december which is fascinating considering. It just ended me. It still feels like it's completely too fast. It's and. I wonder i mean we'll have the interest on christmas day slated gains because. We always liked christmas day basketball. I wonder how teams are going to. We talked about this yesterday. Take part in this early parts of seasons like have you know you're going to be a playoff team and we've seen and we know that if they are they are playing at home arenas next year. It's going to be limited fans if any in some spots you know if you're guaranteed make the place what's the incentive to play early in the year because homecourt advantage is that something that's going to be a real incredible thing anymore. If places aren't packed with people. Like i think you're gonna see a lot of star sit out chunks of the season early on as they should like here in houston. I'm not playing. James harden russell westbrook all that much earlier on. There's no reason for it. Will they wanna play though. The players like margins. He's a gym rat right. Yeah going to play. And but i get why you'd say listen man take this month. We're just getting started. I'll see in the middle of january. I mean not not away from the team but you know we'll just even if it's limited very limited minutes were just kind of play what is gonna. What are you gonna play your way into the middle of january before we get rolling with you because that the turnaround is just. I actually fascinates me that they can turn this around this fast. I just i get the money standpoint of it and like you said it's that's what's going into them winning and all this with every sport is money money money but it just a and there was a lot of things that are going up against. It was a bubble and it was different. I just wondered the the the excitement level. There will be like oh. Nba basketball back. In by the way it's set. Here's the seventy two game schedule i. I think we've just watched two seasons. And i know that one of them was just to completion. The other where it's shortened like. I don't think there's going to be this. Oh yea fund seventy two games ahead of us feeling anymore. Like i think people probably would would be more excited if it was later in a shorter season. How is it to wrap up a season in a bubble and then just a couple of months later be playing in home arenas without a vaccine were art. Isn't the talk still around the country. People are concerned while the while the nfl has positive tests. Green bay's running backs went through college. Football all these things are going through the major concern right. We just talk about it and election is supposedly when you look at those polls at one of the biggest concerns is discovered thing right so you just finished in a bubble and all the sudden we are in november. Now we're talking about six about six and a half weeks or seven weeks from now. We are gonna play. Started that starting games. So that means. What's today november. fourth d realize it by december. First you have to start camp. Yes three weeks. That's a little more than three weeks. You're back to up and down getting yourself and conditioned and if you're an nba coach and you say we'll man we're tired. I can't condition these guys this hard. I don't want to wear them out. Well then guess what happens injuries. Soft tissue all and then goes back to your point mc about maybe just playing. You know he don't play him as much in the first month. They got games going. But you're not gonna get forty. Bits out of your superstars. Legitimate lebron james because well as body data to recover and so i'm just to me i can't even. I can't even fathom that. Hey man and three and a half weeks nba starts. I can't and games a three week games. Three weeks after that By three days before christmas. We'll go start playing games christmas week in the nba. I'd say it's hard for me to even believe. And i think you're right with this people like mount shortness season all the time. I don't know if they're willing to sacrifice that money. I don't that definitely are and on top of that like we still had the off season there's been crammed free agency trades betrand. And then no can't like you talk about a rookie class. That screwed this year. The typical rookie class gets drafted goes through the summer league gets plenty of opportunity to be around the coaching staff and players. And everything. like if you're on a bad team they're going to play. But for some of these other guys that can come in and be difference makers early in the year like on veterans teams. That's not going to exist this year. Because there's no ability for these guys to gain coaches trusts and all this is just. This is too fast. Everything about it is cr- trying to cram too much and so it it goes right back just reeks of what we know. It reeks of money. Man that's what it is because back to your point brandon come on man. Let me ask you this just from from what everybody in the country's talking about regardless how we feel about it i'm glad i mean hopefully we're going back to arenas and everybody's safe excuse me but that's all the money they're talking about. Tv revenue and getting back. Do you is the culvert going to be over by mid december. No but the one thing i would say is i mean. The nba bubble started in july. Right we've seen since july that you can have a season without mass outbreaks. Just constantly happening. Oh i know. I'm on that side of i'm ready to if it was me i put more people in stands. Now i just because we gotta learn how to do. It isn't just going to disappear. We've got to learn how to deal with it right and have some common sense and respect. My point is then all the sudden we just ended above. I've i'm talking about from the perception and the optics point of and the health for some against is what we're talking about. Is it all the sudden from a bubble to just have we learned more and what we learn more in seven weeks. Oh it's okay now is that is that the way we're going learned a lot since july is when i would say what about since the end of the season so this season. We had a pretty good idea about how to do. What was the bubble necessary by the end of it. Probably not i don't i you are. I can tell you. I feel that answer would be. I'm with you more than probably not. But i i just. I don't think there's anything wrong with recognizing that okay. We were more protective than we need to be. Let scale it back now. Right and i also sign one of those guys and i you know brennan. Yeah i'm on here with us i. I'm not a matter of if john elway has now got it front office and then i don't think it's a matter of if for most people. I think it's a matter of win whether hopefully it's not severe and while you wait on a vaccine i think and you may have had it. Even though you don't know you've had it. I know i had it but i just to me. If you're one of the fortunate ones it doesn't get it in our country regards. What stat say. Who didn't who didn't i. Just i think that over the course of time. We're gonna find out that most people get it they just do. I believe that unless a vaccine comes out. But i'm with you. I think we've learned a lot and understand how to handle it. And i hope we're more intelligent about it but i i. It just seems odd that that's done and now we're going to. We're going to load up the state. The fans in the stands right yet. We're still in. We're actually planning to college football in the pac twelve this week. And we're in november thanksgiving's three weeks away. It's just weird right. How weird the. Where's waldo is my point but it just feels would forget the covid part that we're talking about. It just feels weird to me. I feel like we just ended. They just crowned the champion and they did and we're already three weeks away from training camp. Starting hell we're just think about how the players feel i don't have. I don't know how their bodies recover from it. But i guess. I guess that's what makes them so special. It's sports talk. Seven ninety the crew is here yeah. I'm curious how people feel. Are you ready for the nba. To start in six weeks game seven weeks if you are let us know as well as the texas do the right thing by not trading yesterday seven one three two one two five seven ninety soda at home program. State of the art is what soda stands for. 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Plus you get a little bit of ego and pride when you stare in the mirror and say i looked pretty damn good. You can't do sorta weight loss dot com so to weight loss dot com state of the art. Formidable time french very this is the sean salisbury. Show very guys. I think the majority of people on twitter that i follow further. Follow me in that. We discuss i. I'm in this trade and they respond and communicate with me. Think that the texans did the right thing yesterday by not making the trade for will fuller for fourth round pick that that are general manager should have the rights the right word but wait for the next one. Don't fire sale it. Let's just go with what we got deal with this season and then press forward there. It is so that that is something that that i think. Most people would agree with that. I do to while. I was saying all along that. If you didn't get the right assets for. But i don't believe in giving core players away. I never have stated that didn't show i go on where i'm guest somewhere else will wash. Should we trade. This what do you get for and how much money the end is the the does. His contract is the value of his money. Live up to his performance. Do they match if they don't and you you continue to see a drop-off guess what that means. Then maybe it's time to move on but if you don't see a drop and he's living up to the contract and make why trade core place. I've never understood it. we got. Do you know what find other ways to move core players and men and move money instead of find other ways to move money instead of core players. And if you think will fuller is going to be worth a franchise tag or that kind of money going forward and you think that as an organization because a lot of us think that you should have paid hopkins and imagine what the would be right now. What how we'd be talking about the texans offense now. If hopkins was a part of this so i don't believe in just pushing core players out the door if i think that there are matching number one the contract and number to bring more value than getting rid of ordering than a fourth round or third round draft pick so i would not give away plus will fuller lie i mean. We drafted him in the first round. I'm willing to give away a guy who this year's probably going to have a thousand yards receiving and seventy catches. And what maybe double digits touchdowns if it keeps up and he stays healthy. That's better than a fourth round. Pick now the next question is the season goes on if he stays healthy throughout is will fuller worth to the texans going forward eighteen million bucks whether it's for one year or five a year. That's gonna ask yourself. I think for me that as of today. I expect them to bring him back. I really do because i i think. If they had a brain they would have moved him know if they knew that they were going not going to keep that retention and keeping him no matter who the. Gm is like we're gonna tell the gm you need if we're going to keep at least another year. Yeah i saw a franchise. I'm trying to. I mean he's gonna franchise somebody he's the guy on the team right to comes available and it's honestly that's a horrible thing for their salary cap situation because they have seven million dollars over the cap right now. They're gonna have to move so many pieces just to clear space for that. Is it a horrible for him. Now for will fuller. No because let's let's just say they franchise him. This team gets back on pace where they're not one and sixteen and he's healthy again. Let's save then. He goes back to back years of he still young. He goes back to back years of health or plays a full season. And then all of a sudden they've upgraded their football team and they get this new coach and here knows how to utilize and do the things they want to do. And then we'll goes twelve hundred yards. Ten touchdowns eighty five catches next year. And then the franchise tag rolls around again and then guess what he gets a long-term big money contract so really for him. It's seven between seventeen and eighteen bucks if you franchise him while. It's big on the texans on their books. But the really if you're will fuller you say i'll take that money for one year to prove myself again. Everybody wants a long-term security. But i don't see how anybody he's not going to get it next year. Let's put it that way. He's just not he's he's not going to get if they moved him. Do we really think there's a team out that it's going to turn around and pay him. Eighteen in one thousand nine million dollars a year for five years next year. I i don't see it. And i'm somebody may but i don't see how somebody's going to do that. You get a third round session. He's a twelve million dollars a year court wide receiver fair enough fair. He's not gonna but he's not willing to take that right now. I think but another year. He's no longer another year where it's productive. And he's good under franchise tag then. He's no longer a twelve or fourteen million dollar contract right. He's i mean he's he's no longer twelve now. He's a sixteen seventeen million dollars guy just because of timing and production right if he does a two years in a row so i appears to me now that if you weren't willing to give him up for a fourth rounder then a possible third rounder this off season if you decide to let him walk as compensation it would seem now logical that you're going to say let's just franchise him and push it to next year and see what we can do with the sean this offense under another year a better running game and hopefully a better offensive line and a better defense with a new coach and gm so It it. it's almost seems illogical now to think that they're going to push him out the door the off season right. Yeah just. I think it's because they are so stuck with what they have in the inability to do a lot of big things that they just i get it. They almost have to do it. They have to say he's here. Were planning on retaining him for another year. And we'll shuffle now. Part of that is going to end up being you having a shuffle off. Some of the stuff that you got to make you. More dynamic look like toll. Tell us this past off season with speed and all that. They're going to have to get rid of cooks. We know they're going to get rid of david johnson because that would be dumb if they didn't so how they rebound from that and you know all the sudden you have random cobs money there were. It's like again. Why did we pay him. This money. how they get better. I don't know i really don't. Yeah i it's it's going to be and that means you automatically go into next season with him as your number one receiver and having watson around. He can tournament a number one here. I get it. You're gonna pay him like once you got to. The production has to go up. I guess my concern is. I'm hoping that the will fuller of gives me ten games doesn't rear its head. Does that make sense. That's what i don't wanna see. That's a because if you get ten games at at a franchise tag. I got a problem with it. Yeah i got a major problem with it. So i'm always concerned about soft tissue with him. I don't know about you but i am. It'd be terrifying. Yeah and i know it's a risk you take with injuries with every player. But they're taking on a lot of salary. If that's the case now maybe we you know what there may be a general manager that waltzes in here and says i love will fuller. And the coach we're going to hire is gonna turn him into a full blown. No questions asked number one with this quarterback in the offense we're gonna put in. We're paying here a long term and you know what i don't think the head coach that comes in here. The gm would have a hard time convincing kalmyk near that. That's the case count. Mcnair thinks they're going to the playoffs this year. Do you get that. He thinks are going to play offs this year. So if you're telling me. Gm or head coach combined can't come in if they fell in love with wolf fuller and say that's we. Let's keep him long-term that cowan say. Okay what are you in. We'll take care of how we're going to shift money around and players but will fuller is a. He's one of our core players a piece to this puzzle that we want around. That's not beyond the realm of possibility that that happens because he's got what teams really like home. Run hitter speed right speed. And he's turned into a reliable catchy catcher the he's he doesn't drop like he did his early couple years. The ball's not on the ground near as much as it was when he was one of the top. Well lead the country. I believe at notre dame when he came in and then struggled with early in his career and seems to have done enough work to to become more sure handed. So i think it was a wise move not to trade willfuller for a fourth round draft pick. Now when the season ends you've got to figure out what the next step is. It is sports. Talk seven ninety. Sean styles ratio. Ian rapoport fifteen minutes. 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I can't fathom this team not just destroying jacksonville considering the lack of offensive production on the other side of the field. I now. i'm not so sure. The jacksonville won't score points. And if they do against a quarterback who started his first game their defense shows up and shuts them down. I want to caution. People often see their back now. Because this isn't philip rivers or tanna hiller derrick henry or anybody else you going to face the rest of the year This is not even baker mayfield. This is this is jacksonville. Who's not real good. You should win this game. Matter of fact. It's not so much win. The i got see then they need to dominate this game. I think for people to the for us to say okay. It's about time right. They haven't dominated anybody even the last ten jacksonville they didn't dominate them. Now what i was gonna say. There's even the one win against jacksonville. Didn't feel like it because it was more about adding points late in the fourth quarter as the game it was. It was ugly up until through the first three quarters game. It wasn't a great win. see i know. people sometimes. Don't have the guts to want to come on and tell me i mean i know we got great listeners and callers but i know some are like why can't go on there and say. I think the texans are gonna make the playoffs because well people laugh our laughing at anybody. You'll get a platform here at seven one. Three two one two five seven ninety. I do believe and i i do. I think there are some people that actually think like comic narrow. When it comes to this team i think they believe one in six that they're capable of rolling off eight or nine wins in a row. Well we did it two years ago while that's not we're not talking about two years ago or three years ago whatever. It was when they won what nine in a row. This is a different team at a different defense while your offense may be capable of putting up thirty game the next seven eight nine weeks. Maybe they're capable of it because you got good players I don't know if they're capable of it because the run game is not good. And i don't know if they're capable of it because the defense all the way around makes average quarterbacks look like pro bowlers and makes running backs. Well look like hall of famers. So i don't see how you're going to stop a team but i do believe that there are people listening to this show right now that yeah cows right comic. We we are. We do have a chance at the playoffs. I believe that Believe some and. I would love for somebody to tell me why i would. I just don't think people want. I can't call him because i don't believe it but i'm not gonna say it. I believe there's some elected. Mci no you and i- brennan you. Are you one of them. you believe. This is a playoff team this year. No nine close right. Hide believe there are five win team. Right i would i. Yeah that that would mean they'd be going four and five down. The stretch sounds about right. I would put that on the high side. maybe okay. so means of miami. Dolphins are going to get a really good pick in a really good Another first round pick. Should i say so. I am see agreed with me. You think there's people in town who believe. I'm sure that they're absolutely are. I think there are a few people that drink. Whatever that's part of being fan if you want to be that kind of fan that drinks the aid no matter what and thinks that everything is great because we all do it to some extent with every single team but if you wanna do it one hundred percent of the time more power to you I think you're silly to have it. And i think yes. There are a few people that are out there doing that. Because i think the existence of the is told us that there are fans that do that given the way. They support that team. I don't call it kool-aid foolish lead us. That's not a bad drink call fu late. Yeah i i would imagine. That's what i call. But you know the. I don't think i'm drinking that kool aid. Either but there are. There are folks that are several three two one two five seven ninety seven three two one two. Five seven ninety. I just i'm trying to. I'm trying to dissect how who they have after jacksonville off the top. You colts isn't it. It's cleveland cleveland. Okay go to clear creek right. We there's a chance you'll get cold weather. I don't know what browns teams gonna show up and neither do you. One week they play. It's like well that may feel do number six completed twenty three in a row then the next week. It's like they scored. Six points against the raiders at home in bad weather. I honestly that's another team. That is maddening. i. I don't know what to make of them one week. I think this and i picked him to believe a wildcard tactic. They're my last car team. and one week. I'm like yep. I'm gonna validate this. And they still are in a position to make the playoffs in the next week. It's like well they can. They're not very good on a consistent basis yet when they're when they're running it and he's hot. But i don't know how often that's going to be. And he played pretty decent this year but not spectacular but at times spectacular. So i don't really know going into cleveland. I'm starting to think okay. Yeah you can move the ball against cleveland but They're gonna be able to move the ball to and they have a pretty good run game. Needless to say so. I don't know i'm starting to parlay it out. Ok you beat jacksonville. And now you've got to go in. And they do play. Cleveland cleveland right. Yeah they do so the right. Mc so they're back to back road right so that'll be a different. I have no idea what. Cleveland team's gonna show up now. Both teams show up. The overall team. Cleveland's better i didn't say better personnel. But they do get good off their of their offense of personnel. Win healthy outside the quarterback watson's better than mayfield. They got receivers as good offensive personnel. They can run especially when they're when they're running games in going through their offense personnels. Really good but you know the question is which one of the defenses and the browns defense is better than the texans so the question is how does how does watson attack the browns defense and what mayfield is gonna show up. The last time. Cleveland came here. Baker mayfield did not play well. They jumped on him early. Nrg and put them away and they'll get that chance and that'll be a pivotal game for cleveland. Because they're trying to keep pacing in the playoff hunt. But right now it's it's not a good It's not a good visual Their inconsistency drives you nuts. But we know what the texans are. It's watson or bust right if he doesn't play well you don't win sir period and and they're fortunate in the game like this this weekend that you can actually play average if you're sean and still win because vince just and i and i know that people are like well don't take them for granted but they're just not you have to beat this team you have got to eagle this par-five and it's got to be right from the start for four straight quarters. I wonder if there's an uplifted feeling in the building of hey we're all here. Let's go again. And i don't know if people buy into that stuff and locker rooms or if it's just business as usual or if it wanted six of any of these players checked out and say i gotta get to the off season. It's easy to do on one sixteen. How many bad teams were you on. Never i've never been on a team like this. Never won sixteen. Never i've never been on a team. Remember record you're you're on maybe a five hundred team about five hundred type team right around there. But i've never had a point in time where i was like. We're eliminated for the most part. Not mathematically eliminated in october. You know what i'm saying. We're headed into november thinking. We've got zero shot. None and at one and six. That's a that's there. The percentage is so low. It's damn near none for them in considering and then you look at how they've lost and who and and the way they show up two games and their defense you get some really damned or none so but mathematically. They haven't been eliminated. But i i. I know when losing it's tough when you've lost two or three in a row which i think everybody has ever played. Maybe not but most players have lost the couple in a row. That's not fun but when you're losing four and five and six in a row that can start to wear on you because you start to start decide. I team mates in the building. Wonder who's going to get. Which one do you know. These dudes is gonna step up that. That's that's what starts to happen and if you're not careful new did people listen. It's like when you're around somebody. All the time and things aren't going well in a relationship people get bothered and that happens in locker rooms to and while they can talk about all the comradery and the world go won't be be one and nine or two and ten and i got news for you. The they'll they'll be stuff going on locker room as far as your attention. And disagreements you'll never hear about because well you're not in the we're not in there but they happen and finger-pointing start fab while we don't do that on this team every team doesn't when you're getting your ass kicked. Everybody has one of those guys did. Come on man you guys got picked it up offense or defense. You know what i mean. It can become a locker room divided unless you have strong leadership. Or unless you don't care and i think texans house and players care on this football team i do. I think most of them do. Nobody likes to embarrass themselves. But it's much easier to check out at one and six then You know even if you're to six you start to say well but you went real real off two or three in a row and then all of a sudden your ears perk up say well maybe we can make it a respectable season. Which is their number one priority right now taking care jacksonville. They're going to tell you they're not looking by jacksonville. And they can't fix. But i'm looking by jacksonville. Because they should be a foregone conclusion it really should right so but the tampa. Bay buccaneers probably thought that the giants too and they were in a game until the end. It's sportstalk seven hundred ten rappaport next. Nfl network and ironside or joins us. We will discuss the texans and the trade deadline with the report right here. It's sportstalk seven. Ninety sean salisbury. What's not healthiest stressing about work. You guys know that. 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The packers originally offered a four. And i believe sweden deal by the end but they never got quite to the two that texans want it and it didn't even sound to mitch like what i thought was going to happen was the packers. Were going to call it the last minute and okay. We will do it for three and another pick. Will you do that. And that would've been a very interesting decision for the texans I'm just not sure. Gotcha that point. So there was a lot of interest in fuller He is a really good player. But at the end He stays put. And you know we'll probably continue to have a good season. Hopefully for the texans and then after the she's going into free agency. And i think the come very very rich anyway. So what. what's the compensation. Remember third round pick in free agency but in but in two years right right the not next. But it's still it. That's the compensation is my point is he is. He can be very very rich. Are the texans going to keep him. This offseason doesn't sound. We'll see who the coaches i think. That might have something to do with it but as of right now it doesn't sound like he's in the texans plans i mean he's probably gonna cost fifteen million dollars he electric but he also has been injured I think there's some trepidation inside the organization not paying receiver that much money especially one who has struggled to stay on the field. I'm not ruling anything out. I'm just saying it didn't sound like he's exactly in their plans It also might be a situation where they say you know what gets a free agency. See what your market is. Remember the cat's going to be down next year teams aren't going to be dying. Spend money so it might depress the market in general But i just don't think they're rushing paying fifteen million dollars next year when they can you know maybe allocate those resources in a little bit of a different or better way. Okay so he goes out on the open market. We literally talking for willful or who. We went down the list today and i. I think he's a really good player like you do in. I think he's he's obviously got home. Run hitter speed. He's learned to catch the ball unlike when he first came in the league. The ball on the ground. A lotta easy. The injuries obviously a problem but he stayed healthy this year but we went through the league about eight or nine playoff teams and he's not a number one receiver on any of them not in green bay. Not he's not a number one guy on any of the he's not number one in buffalo. He's not number one in tampa not number one in cleveland. He's not number one. I mean you go through. And so but he's gonna get on this market. And when you had a hopkins here. And bill's gone. So that's a foregone conclusions out moot point are we saying five years at seventy five to eighty million dollars for him probably way that fifteen year. Yeah we'll do a little math in my head You know. Julio jones or mike evans or you know well antonio brown now but john hopkins. I mean those guys never see for. There are never ever ever a plus top receiver on the market. What you get. Are you know guys like alan robinson who lives in awesome. Awesome won a Will fuller is. He's a little bit like mike williams in los angeles for the chargers. Where you know. He's good for eight deep touchdowns ear for stretching defense. He doesn't catch the ball ton but when he does catch it's usually big yards. That's not really a number one receiver that's more of like a deep threat weapon but not a guy who rely on downing down out right so he is very very good but i would say he's more someone that would complement deandre hopkins for instance rather than someone who beat hopkins. Okay and how do we in rappaport rap sheet on twitter. Nfl network and our insider here on sports. Talk seventy all right. I'm looking ahead. And i know the coach and the general manager and all that gotta be hired i get that but let's you and i look ahead. What how do the texans upgrade this roster when their payrolls high. And i know by getting rid of wolf. Let willful. Walking guys like that. How do you upgrade this roster win. You didn't make a trade. You're limited on your draft picks. You don't have a first round or a second rounder. How do they take this team and make it better. So they're not three and thirteen or four and twelve next year Got to find somebody who can cover. You know. i mean you can go out in free. And it's not like they need a number one corner like they need help it safety. They just need more solid players on defense. Yeah they gotta run better to they got to rush the passer hundred percent and they should have pass rushers their pass. Rushers in name mercilus what They need some help up front. And i don't know that specifically pass rush. But i mean these readers gonna be out for the season but like that would have been a nice guy to couldn't keep them good run stein. Yeah yeah i mean and affect can affect the passer a little bit. There's far as helping other guys get free You know those kinds of guys. I just think me like a good tight end. Would help would really really really help. Not it sells is now. I'm just saying he's little more of a specialty red zone type. Dude get a ton of snaps Tight end would help and off depth all over the defense just good defensive players at moderate prices you know i could see them signing a couple of three guys in agency on defense just just to give them some depth and some guys who can play and think about what we're saying in and you're right we're talking about okay offensive line should be better side from tonsil. Then they don't run the ball. They got to get better with these. Scharping and hydrophobic titus howard is a hydraulic okay. We know that they're running. Game is is non-existent for the most part. David johnson will not be here. So you know you're going to free up that money. Who knows about duke johnson. He need there in one of the worst run defenses in the league and they they are not real good against the pass. We probably gonna lose another one of these receivers. Maybe not even not will fuller but another one. You don't have a lot of marine yes stills. You don't have draft picks. You don't have a lot of money and we're talking about going out and trying to just saying these guys just don't fall off a turnip truck and land in your lap. That can run the can. Stop the run right. So my point is give. Texans fans of reason from watson put him aside and the coach but on the field. Give them a reason to be optimistic. Do you have. Do you have any watson. is is a reason. He's res have right he really is and i think you know the the position. That texans is a very difficult one because they for a couple a couple of years. They didn't have a left tackle. And then they you know. Let the egos trade over them for dillard with. They never should have done. I mean he's been injured so who knows but anyway at the time we thought he was going to be very good And then they just did not have a left tackle so they had to go. Overspending trade for left tackle tunsil. And then you let yourself vulnerable there and then you have a great quarterback that you had to pay because you pay them now so you don't have to pay him later and it was like they went for it. But the problem is going for the problem with going all out. Trading for a premium position paying your quarterback Paying key linebackers. I mean all of these things that they did. The problem is if you don't get it and you leave yourself in the whole so. I think the problem with the texans have is they went for it and then they had to fill a whole pencil and now they're probably not gonna win the bowl this year. I would go out on a limb and say that now they have to play catch up. So they're only hope is spend moderately in free agency but on a bunch of guys and randomly hit on a couple of guys in the draft. Where you get first round players with third or fourth round picks. That is a that is the hope. And you have a quarterback who can elevate the whole team to get your feet back under you you get your draft picks back and you start developing players again and it may be a few years. Then there's gotta be some patients with the new general manager and new head coach sportstalk seven hundred in rap for just a couple more minutes and get him out of here in if i could put together and put this together for like just a fun futures bet and i said matt ryan kirk cousins. Now i know the money's going to have a lot to do with this. But if i said this i'd probably get a lot of great odds matt ryan kirk cousins cam newton jimmy garoppolo And sam darnold. If i said all all five of those guys will be playing somewhere else in twenty twenty one. I could get a lot of money. How close would i be on hitting that five guy parlay okay you. I don't think you would win it. That's hilarious parlay And i was like all right. So i think ryan stays my guess. Is the south either draft a quarterback or stick with matt ryan for another year and draft a quarterback the following year. So my guess is ryan stays. Okay i think darnold probably goes Somewhere else i think garoppolo my guess is probably goes if they can replace him with someone. Better is my guest. They're not saying they will. But i think they will probably at least try to upgrade for someone who just has been up and down and not always available so that's another I would think her cousins is definitely there because his contract exactly possible going to move on cam newton. We'll see how it goes but probably not You know this feels like the patriots. Taking shot seems good has not been as good. Maybe play gets better but it seems more like the kind of thing even if he does really really well at the end of the year seems like something or someone else pays them not the patriots and then move the last one thousand darlie hit all five to five i. I was gonna say if cousins didn't have guaranteed money. I think i'd be. I think i'd only be one player away. And that's matt ryan from women that parlay i do. I agree but you know that's why you do these contracts to make sure that whatever happens even if it seems perfect you get your money and i think kirk cousins set himself up in a way where he is going to get his money and because back in don powered leading deserves it or not. Oh man that dude's put himself in position. He talked about a guy who's negotiated right good gracious. There is no question about it and line. And i don't hate a guy ford. I don't ever get in anybody's wallets. Good for him and they're not going to super bowl with him but good for him because he's a good guy and i like guys get paid. I root for success in great stuff man appreciate it. I know you had a busy week with trade deadline. Now let's settle in how we push towards the playoffs and be safe out there man. We'll talk soon. I enjoyed thanks you to appreciate all. Righty that's wrapped board. Nfl network and our insider here on sports talk seven ninety twenty twenty silverado. Fifteen hundred four door. Let me just give you an example of the deals you're going to get a classic chevy sugarland zero down. I love those two words zero down three ninety nine a month. Thirty six month lease. That's what you're getting just beautiful twenty twenty silverado. i drive. It's off charts when you purchase a new vehicle from classic. 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Salisbury show continues on sports. Talk seven ninety home for your home. Teams see talking to rappoport brennan's here well as mc josh see other sinement today appreciate brennan being here. I guys i don't know in talking to in rappaport in trying to describe it. And i don't know how patient football or sports fans are ever to be honest with you most aren't and especially when you have certain players on your team that say we don't need to be patient because this guy is really good though when you start to look at this. I don't know how the roster changes a ton next year. How you this is going to be odd to say you're one in six and so record says you call you. Quite frankly suck the players on your team does say i'm talking about some of the offensive players. Say dick johnson doesn't suck he's good. He's good player tiding position get a couple of good players. You got four receivers. That are that have had success in the league. You've got a quarterback really good You got to the hall of fame player. That's still playing good football. I mean you start to go a couple linebackers at a good players. You've got a good safety. I mean you start to go around and you say okay an offensive line you got the pro bowl left. Tackle a first round right tackle. You got a second round guard and he started saying okay. There one at six. How do they suck well bill. O'brien well okay. Great you can give me all the bill. O'brien deondraye hopkins stuff and be bitter. All you want. He does not make one tackle on sundays. And he's done he's gone so if you're telling me here here's what's if you're telling me that. This is a playoff caliber team. Cow mcnair and the guy who put that together is then. It can't just be bill. O'brien fault although i understand. The building in the foundation of this team falls on his shoulders because of the deals he made but really i heard a lot of people on twitter although they dislike bill. O'brien are receiving core better. This year i heard that and their offense was putting up some points and and putting up some passing numbers they're capable but if this is a one and sixteen with the guys i just named and let's say you're gonna get rid of a handful of those guys this off season. How do they upgrade. You can't blame it on answer. You can't blame injuries mc not you can't 'cause they they they have been a little banged up certain but like anybody that's happens people get miss a game or two but they've been relatively healthy with their big time players that's one secondly so you're going to get rid of payroll what makes anybody think with the draft picks and lack thereof and people that are on here so if you get rid of that and go get. Let's say you get rid of brandin cooks or you trade or you. Get rid of kenny stills. Cut him in the off season. Alright so you're gonna go get another fourth receiver. That's got more experienced better than him. Those guys aren't they. They're just they're not easy to find. You hope that the fourth guy comes in. And it's like okay. He's pretty good. But right. Now kenny stills would be considered your fourth best receiver so you get a guy cheaper. That's a warm this on new warm body but maybe doesn't have the same upside that still supposed to have or has had in his career. So i'm trying to think all right. Well we'll be better next year. We'll coach is gonna help that they. Yes yes that will help to maximize what you have but if anybody thinks that this team's wanted six and you're going to shed some of this money and move on from these guys some of them. How are you getting better next year. How watson's planet the top five is as a top five or six player in his position in the league. High getting better where. There's there how you do it right. That's what i'm saying. That avenue leads to a dead end road. next year doesn't not yeah period. It really does. There's there is no clear. Cut way to make this football team. That's why it's crazy because we've talked about it. The team that gives you the best chance to win a championship and now the sudden feels like they they have no chance and they have the best singular player that they need it the most important spot and i'm sitting here thinking okay now. Let's say they were six in one. They think about just flip. Let's say they won in pittsburgh and all of a sudden just or or even at five and two. Oh we're a playoff team. And everybody loves him right. A lot of people had. I mean in this town thought. Oh this nine hundred seventeen and sixteen this year. There are people and there are people across the league that had them in a playoffs the prognosticators and and experts on television and all that stuff so they said well watson's good enough to cam. They've got good. They've done even though they got rid of hopkins have these receivers. That'll be really good offensive. line's better. You heard the talk. The talk was was very prevalent in across the country. Some didn't like them and some did because the quarterback. That's good place to start. So yes i'm trying to find the road but if they were five and two imagine how it would shift so all the sudden because they're one sixty eight you like the players if the players were five and two you'd say well these are really good players and they're healthy. Well they are healthy and they're one in six. So what changed what. What's what's happened. Bad executed bill. O'brien fault bill. Branch fault that they lost to aaron rodgers is it bill. I'm just trying to you. Know what i'm saying. I'm with people. Isn't it in front element the hell out of me. It comes down to the players on the field but in part you can never get away from it being bill. O'brien small just because he built the team the way it is. Yeah but if you think now did anybody think that honestly did we think roby couldn't play. He's good but you know. I'm talking about when people did. They don't go in thinking well roby can't play or did you think that You think did you think that hargraves was going to be thought he make a few plays right a couple your mom. Yeah yeah. Did you know when you lost reader. But you thought you'd get double digit sacks from mercilus this year didn't you do you think cutting better and coverage. Yeah for sure mckinney. You thought i mean see my point is i'm just trying to figure out and then my head's gonna explode trying to figure out or is it just a little bit of luck. This is not that they're closer to exist roster closer to a six and one roster and one six roster. I don't care who coaches. I don't care if the coach i mean. Are you talking before the season. I thought it was close right. Now it's one six roster clearly okay and and you don't. There's not a whole lot of light at the end of the twenty. Twenty one tunnel personnel wise correct. Outside of what you see here for instance if you get rid of cooks who's gonna who's better that you're going get on paper for that ceremony. Yeah there isn't anybody exactly so you see where i'm going with this right. So if you're getting rid of fuller who's the number one receiver on the team cob or cooks right if he stays or cooks still here. I think it's a toss up each week because one week one guy is exists. He exists in the offense the other week the other guy so that would mean both played well together two years in a row. You're going to lose your best receiver. See what i'm saying right you two years in a row. You're going to lose your best receiver so you can't help but you would think would you deplete it like that. That they would have to take a step back now. They got a lot of steps that should be able to take four defensively just by showing up actually think their run defense will be better by a few more warm bodies right so you get where i'm going. It's fascinating to me. But i'm trying to figure out. Where's the clear worth tunnel that leads to a bright light and twenty twenty one. If you've already got rid of hopkins and now you're going to have to get rid of let fuller walk. Oh okay and then what do you get informed nothing. next year. he's going to walk. You get a third rounder. In two years. So i you get my point. It's it's frustrating. It's frustrating and i think this rosters better than one in six. Maybe a few breaks and lucky and a great coach can bring out the best in them and that they will elevate in their play with their hair on fire and play urgent. I i don't know unless casual and then all of a sudden they're really six and one team instead of one in six. There's going to be hard to come by if you continue to diminish your roster of your core players. Hey if you're roofs over fifteen years old it needs replaced right sean. 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And there's some good players there is and but we also trying to find a path that says house how they have to get rid of another receiving will fuller and upgrade a bunch of defensive positions but yet cut salary in the process where you're gonna find those guys so that that that's out there and it's a emcees here along with brandon and we're discussing texans and missing the trade deadline but i wouldn't have traded willfuller for a fourth round or either i would not have get letting the next general manager and head coach. Decide that part of your future. But i wonder when i look at qualifications. I wonder what. Jackie used to be doing to get himself up to snuff on the football side of this whole thing correct. Yeah i wonder if because it listen. Okay korn-ferry's making the suggestions right. It's one of the we're led to believe them and said four to five people are being put together for whatever right. So they're they're making the decisions. Yeah then bring it to the four or five people and say well. You don't want to add to this list or take away from correct. I'm assuming that i'm right about this right. i think. And so if they're putting a committee together all right so you hire the general manager. So i'd like to know when this is done when you hire gm what's jack easterlies roll. Well what's his role near. He's going to be. What does he vice president of football operations so he's not a football if he's not a football guy. What what does that was. That job entail what. What does jackie speier bees. If he's not a for instance in green denver. John elway as the president of football operations right so he's making the final decisions for denver correct jones. Somebody's answering to him. So of jack is vice president but upgraded to president of football operations. Isn't he ultimately in charge of the general manager in the pecking order. Isn't that the way it works. Yeah okay yeah. It's a rhetorical question. That'd being pretty sure in my pecking order. That's the way it works right. So i'm just wondering what is his. What is his role gonna be if he's not if his qualifications don't say i'm qualified to be a great football and i'm not saying you can't learn it. I'm not at all but a lotta times when you're learning you work your up and and you're you're you're not a team notice the chaplain but is in football ops situation now maybe he knows more than i don't know i don't know him from well from that. I don't know jack about him. he did there. I don't know jack about it. But other than what i've read and i've never met him and i always want to give somebody the benefit of the doubt. I root for his success because it his success mix houston a better place for football that it just does. But i'm just trying to figure out number one is don't you if you don't trust your president of football operations to hire your general manager. Why are you here this other role that would justify. I'm sure president of football operations makes a lot of money. So i'm just trying to justify for me if you all sudden if you were to hire me as i've just using me anybody's an example for our john elway. I don't care who it is when you tell me you're the president. Okay gimme another company. If you're the president landry's if you're the president at apple if you're the president for the boston red sox if you're the president of your local Insurance company in town. If you're the president of i don't present in it chick-fil-a do you do. And you've got a general manager at different rates in different regions. Who's the boss of those general managers. The owner dis- korn ferry. This korn ferry would korn ferry. Go out and hire. If you're the president is going gonna go out and hire your general manager or you're going to sit down and say i know enough about this business because that's how i got the job so i'm gonna do the hiring. Wouldn't you think that would be normal in a building karate. I mean it seems normal correct. So i'm just trying to figure out and i like i said this isn't an rippin ge ever. I don't want to beat up on anybody that i don't know personally haven't sat down and talked x.'s. And o.'s with and football personnel. I'd love to check. I would and i promise you with all my heart. I root for his success now. 'cause we judge people just by all. Yeah i heard. He's not a good football game. I don't know him. i don't. I don't think i like some of the things that have gone on some of things i've heard about getting your meandering your way to this position but i i'm not i don't have anything personal against him and i root for him but because rooting for him equal rooting for the texans to get better. But i'm just trying to figure out if i'm hiring jack easterby and he's going to be the president of my football operations. Why isn't he solely. If he's that powerful enough to be the president football operations he should be along with cow. And maybe your pet pro personnel or somebody else that that offer suggestions. He should be making the final decision. And then you go count say this is the guy and then let cao workout the money right or less callum powers you pay him. What's right and whatever it is. Why if i sure sell if i was football operations guy and you told me you were hiring korn ferry. I'd say you don't believe in me. Why am i the president of football operations. I don't get it. I'm trying to piece this. They're just trying to piece the roster together. If you called me up today and said sean can be the president football operations. I can damn. We'll tell you that if that's the case i'm not walter in their saint great. I can't wait till korn ferry. Sins me my gm. That tells me that in my opinion. I don't trust the guys in my building to make a decision that's going to enhance my football team moving along and it also tells me that i just don't know enough he would be like i would imagine you sending me as i am right now to go be the the president at landry's because i tasted the food does that make sense because i've tasted the food now. I'm in position that i can do all the hiring of all the people at landry's bill could because i know what a good steak tastes like or would good seafood tastes like see. No that's not the case. It's the same thing here that you would feel. If you're hiring jack. Easterby why is he not the guy making these decisions. I'll tell you why because they don't trust him to make these decisions because they're not sure he can. So why is he. The president of football operations is my whole way around. And if jack. I'd love to have them talk to me. And tell me why he is an and and what he's going to his role is going to be in the moving forward of the houston texans football team and i don't think any of us really know is this just label. Is it just. Oh we got. He's the president because well somebody named her that but what are his power. Worse is power. We're gonna come back and and discuss on sports. Talk seven ninety. I just if. I can't be the president of landry's of of tillman for titas restaurants and hotels if all's i've done sleep in the beds at the hotels and eat the food just like if all you've done as the chaplain and watched other guys do it but you've ever had a hand in it. It's hard for me to understand why you're in the deciding decision process and if you are the president of football operations you should be qualified to make the decision to hire consulting firm. I think now you guys may think i'm crazy. Because maybe i don't know but that just seems like the pecking order to me sports. Talk seven ninety. 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And where's what's the power structure in the organization wants to gm's hired. I think that there's more reason to question him than to have faith in him clearly. Because there's just no idea of again you can go read a lot of things we we've played their breer thing recently where they talked about how important faith is for the texans organization for the mcnair family. That's why rick smith really bonded. And that's part of this issue for me too. Is that all of this. Since the bill o'brien heiress started and we're still having the lingering effects of it clearly because it's not officially over until they clean house to some extent there's been this constant battle of power struggles and bill one them and one them and then he eventually loses them. S- like i have. I have more reason to believe that jackie's to be as great at playing the game of power struggle and schmoozing and finding a way to get to a job that maybe he's not qualified for the job that he might be doing so they work. I know that. I don't wanna be that. I don't want to be that negative. Nancy all the time about them. But that's just the way it appears the outside. Do you prefer negative. Nancy or negative. Nellie salmon nancy guy are you gotta go negative things and then what about you you more of a negative nancy or negative. Nellie guy i gotta be honest. I've heard negative. Nellie but i mean. I don't even think of negative. Nellie see i'm more of a negative. I grew up negative. Nellie guy. I wasn't negative. Nellie but i grew up negative. Nellie was always the go-to and i think the majority of people are negative. Nancy don't not that they are but that's what they're goto would be right like. It might be because you right you and you went right to the nancy card right. Is there any other one that belongs there. Is there ever been a negative anybody else's name for negative negative. Nancy the overwhelm like if you were doing. What's that show with your guy Steve harvey what we call that favor. Vase says yeah. Family feud so if we said fill in the blank negative. Would it say. Nancy would that be top vote getter by far. I think so. Yeah i do too. Yeah and. I don't know why i don't know where it hit me that i was that i grew up in negative living here negative. Nellie was the one. I used to say so. You know what i like it. Okay now back to it. Negative nancy. I know you don't wanna be negative nancy. But it begs the question so to maneuver your way into this position. So if you're the gm do you maneuver by jack. Easterby and say well are tired by korn ferry. Or i'm the guy and that you get to count and say who before you take the job do you ask who's got i mean we're the power structure is in the organization. Does yeah you. you'll know how it how what the power structure is but just by your interview right like if. Jackie should be heavily involved in your interview. You know that that's who you're reporting to correct now if it like it truly should be. Is that your interviewed to me is with county near encountering narrow. Only then you know that you have a fighting chance to me if you're coming in and interviewing and it's just easterby interviewing you or doing heavy majority of it like i know that i'm in for power struggle probably because i don't conform maybe to what he wants then well guess what he's got the owner clearly right. Yeah oh there's no doubt so. I actually think that the general manager going to come in here and he's going to have to answer to to jack easterby which leads me to wonder. How appealing is the job. Put it this way. Take watson out of this job is appealing. Take this shawn watson out off this team. How feelings down. it's it's less. It's less appealing than the jaguar. Schaub right now to be honest with you outside of the owner you have more faith at the ownership at least gets has winning teams but like it with with no draft. Picks has an appeal. If you don't have to sean brennan you think any different don't feel at all or somewhat appeal just because a football gm. If if watson wasn't here where would it rank. I would have to think it would be one of the bottom jobs in the nfl because of an ownership that you wonder how committed to it. They are one two is. They've left you high and dry. I'm with the fan base. It doesn't trust an organization right now that also and a good fan base but doesn't trust the organization and they've left. He was with with an empty cupboard. Draft wise and the your extended yourself salary. Why so you're gonna have to get rid of some of these players you have already and so you say okay and you're coming into a situation where you're not real. Sure what happened to bill. O'brien other than they were losing. But just a month before that or four months before this or six months before this. We came on the show last off season right when the season ended in. Remember the great. Aaron wilson came on and bill. O'brien they just got beat by kansas city. And i'm telling you mc what was less than a week later right. Had to be three days. And i asked him. I said after this bill. O'brien on the hot seat. And aaron wilson said shot hotseat. He's going to get a pay raise and a promotion and we laughed but but not at eragny. You're kidding right. And he said no. No no he. He's got that much power in the organization. I'll be damned within another three days or within a week. Aaron what's bullseye. Name the gm more power. Now push forward six months eight months however many months. It's been since that day when he would. Aaron came on and aaron was dead on has been dead on so many things when he comes on the show about this organization. Well now push forward to okay since. Bill was here part of the jack when they pushed. Brian gain out right after bringing him in. So now you have these two guys here. And then somehow some way through the losing streak we've been convinced and the hopkins trade. The jack got to stay in. Bill was pushed out. So if you're the next gm coming in you're saying well in my in my yes. Man is a gm man the gym. I don't i don't wanna yes. Man that kisses the owners ass. I don't wanna yes man that that is afraid to hire a coach that others may not agree with because he thinks outside the patriot bubble. I want that. I want a guy who respects the owner. Excuse me and realized who signs the paychecks. But i don't want a guy who comes in here and it's like well. I don't need meek and submissive. Just like i don't need abrasive as a head coach. A guy who's media-friendly would help. You don't have to be media ass kissing but media fan-friendly would help as a coach and your spokesperson. I'd rather have the gm like bill belichick. He's a coach. Be kind of my spokesperson. Who handles all that. Let the coach coach completing and complete separation with that. But i want. Gm that's firm did understands fan base. Did it respects his owner. But he's not afraid to sit across the table the owner and pound the deaths for something he wants. I am not afraid of that. I mean i. I don't want the jamboree afraid that and i sure assure hell no offense to me. I mean to anybody to jack easterby from me or kalmyk near or maybe there is a fence if they take it away. Oh well is when i hire this. Gm i'm looking him in the face and say you have carte blanche within reason you're going to spin you know what i mean. Within salary cap reasons you have carte blanche all personnel decisions. You're the grocery buyer. Now you go get the head coach. It's on the same page as you. Don't worry about jack easterby. it's you and the head coach that are going to build this franchise again. Jack's gonna be the overseer and my right hand guy that they'll yeah that's a good move and then we continue to teach the football side of it and that's fine by title alone. Is he the boss. But not by decision making. And that's what i want my general manager. And if they can't do that then you know what somebody else has gotta go so that makes sense absolutely does mean it's just in this. Is we keep getting back to the same point. This is why having little faith for what is to come exists there. There's there's no real structure there's no real. There's no real avenue to get better like everything about them. right now is just the worst and doesn't feel good period. Yeah it is and it's you know winning helps but this week we're supposed to win. The question is can you go on and get the the horrible taste out of your mouth. Two thousand twenty. Football season is sent the texans from a coach hopkins's excelling leading the league in you know just crushing it yards per game or whatever. It is so You there's some things to be bothered about but winning will cure it. The question is do they have enough to continue to win and cure it with people in house so they get somewhat of the bitter taste out of their mouth heading into twenty twenty one. It's sportstalk seven hundred thousand show emcees here. Brennan tear coming right back for the final thirty minutes on election day after and we still don't have a well. We still have results yet as far as the final results. But if you're like me you stayed up until two o'clock in the morning but if you're smart like mc you went to bed early and if you're kinda smart you went to bed between the two of us now but figuratively as brandon did. I'm a two o'clock in the morning guy. And i'm paying for it sports. Talk seven ninety hundred. And we're the sean salisbury. show continued. Put you guys on a fun spot here. Another lot of stress out there over this election people grind in texans got people real and over. We're already talking about basketball. Starting in december which is enough to stress. You out twenty twenty all the crazy stuff. That's going on. Holidays are coming around gift. Buying all those things that stress you out not to mention like i said at the football team really coming up gift by because it's common brother it's coming right down to pike and you and i both know it so but it's a beautiful day out. Life's good life will continue to be good regardless of how this thing turns out hopefully one way or the other. It will be good because it's the people who make it good not to government. Remember that that's all up to so there's my motivational speech. I ask you guys this. You get to elect an official meaning athlete in this town and only one for the next five years or and everybody else may go who you keep in here guarantee. And they're here. The you elect them seven one three two one two five seven ninety you elect them and you risk losing everybody else. This is basically your president. And then he gets to decide who he wants or she so that being said for the next four years four years and once they go. You don't know if you'll getting back you get to keep one one athlete in houston current. Who is one. What do how many presidents we get like. I don't get like a president vice president when you're the after the president will add. We'll decide who he elects. Maybe we will right now. I'm just telling you made the rules right. We're count votes doing all that. I get to make the rules as it goes kind of like twenty twenty right. We've done twenty twenty. It's kind of does that so a making the rules you get one. You only get one for four years and it doesn't mean you get to put one hundred shell for that come back and four years once you let them go there. An elected official somewhere else. You get one for four years who you electing one now. I fought question it just ask. I was looking for like a puzzle for a real leader. I would have a hard time. Not picking carlos correa. Now i'm talking about the whole package do whether it's if you're coming the you're the guy going to vote. So is it likely you know how do all these different questions do you like with with is a covert economy. Is it leadership is. It's the same as you just performance. Is that guy in the community. Jj watt and performance. Is it great leadership. Is it upside. is it salary you're saving money. Are you making money as he put a the stance you get one athlete you get to elect for the next four years. The rest are gone in this town. So you better choose wisely to me. It comes down. it comes down to an astro. it's either altuve air bregman at the end of the day. You're on because he's he's still young but i would take got him. I got those injuries as it's like somebody pick alex brea. I'm gonna pick alex bregman. He represents the city he that dude. He's gonna probably win himself an mvp at some point the voting you know doesn't go against him because he was on the two thousand seventeen and right now i mean i know you didn't have his best season that he's had but i could make the case that he's the best player on any team in any any of the teams in the city. Seven one three. If you want to chime in you got about twenty five minutes seven three two one two five seven nine year electing one player in this town and the rest gotta go for four years. Who is it and the rest go. You don't get to put on a shelf. Say i'm going to mentor. That person so they can can. I can prepare them to be secretary of state here now. Just one and emcees taken. Alex bregman brandon. It's on you brother. I don't know how. You go anywhere but watson i mean. Football is king it just. Is you gotta talk quarterback in the league. You wanna talk leadership. I trust you got that there. You wanna talk talent. I trust you got that there and it's the one position in in probably all parts physician to fill in hardest position to play. Yeah it's the one position where if you've got that then it makes your life so much easier in all sports i brand and i get. Mc and i know mc loves baseball. Empty loves all his sports. As we all get the i think for me and part going the baseball route is because i think that this is a baseball city. I i think that the texans aren't i mean people care they just don't care it's all about the yeah. I think it's a baseball city too. I get asked that on other show. I believe it's a football state in a baseball town. But if the texans went a super bowl this will no longer be a baseball town. I there's not a city in the country that is baseball city when their football team is. I would agree chicago boston philly while we all say they elect their hockey and baseball. And i mean all the los angeles you can give me all you want about dodgers if the rams win super bowl i'm telling ya. Dodgers are more historic. They'll go crazy free and lakers. I'm just telling you there craving football championship. They just are that. It's just. I would agree with that i would. I would agree with that. Look what saint louis did when the rams were there too. I mean even though you got the blues which you love and saint louis cardinals. Which are they as far as the problem with the cardinals. The rams was they were somebody else's team before they went there right so it was almost like you're on loan which they were so that would probably still cardinals but i believe in the majority maybe not all it football rule supreme normally right now embassy your one hundred percent correct. I think a baseball town. I don't know food baseball town when they were winning. Sixty games but when you win and win a championship they got a taste of it and they love it. they're great baseball fans. But if the texans with watson or this team win a super bowl and they did it. This is a football state throwing through it just is in it and it always will be because well it's texas and that's what we do here not to diminish baseball basketball. I'm gonna take an i am. I would probably if i was choosing an astra would have been the guy who chose. But i know this there's four or five guys on the astros were three. I choose right now and if you through your don and if his knees were healthy but you take that into account when your vote. It's like when you vote for president. Is he too old houses health. Wh- all those things. So i could've taken korean probably had an argument. I gotta taken out to vein had a legitimate argument. I take bregman. So i had an argument. I'm with brendan on this. I think there's only one choice in this town. I'm not sure it's close. It's watson hardest position in sports to play hard position in sports to find a star. He's got every quality want now the time. Sometimes it is press conference. I'd like him to be a little more. It is what it is. I don't want him to say that but he'll learn that he's got winning. Dna he makes everybody better. I know they're one in six. But that i i can't i have a hard time. Put the finger on him. he's going to have a few bad plays a game. But he has a lot of good ones. He's a franchise guy he gets paid like the city's craved it. I think he's much harder to replace than a third baseman than a than a pitcher. Then a point. Guard i to me for four years and he'll just be in the prime of his career. I'm hoping that they can build it. But no matter where i was to me. And it wouldn't be. It wouldn't be the quarterback in every city. I'm see i'm with you on that. There's places i'd go and other cities kind of fun to go around and see what player in each one. Would you elect for four years to me. It's watson and your guy was probably second. But i would take watson i and i'm not sure to me it'd be a landslide victory for me now. We'll take watson could get. I mean the you know just thinking about the importance of the position and everything i guess part of me goes to the more thinking about like you know. It's more than just. This feels like a a. Who's the face of this or that type of thing right. I still think at the heartstrings of fans in this city the more gonna get people going is. The tea is is the players on the team that has done more and bregman does a lot. That's why i go to bregman. He does a lot in the community. he's he's on commercials. Just like sean. As i think he's very recognized. I've been out a couple things where he's been at and the swarms of people that he hasn't been anything with the sean i'm sure to sean gets warm too. I just think that that's why ended up. Prior lean in that way is is because of the the value that people have for what they've done but i think about what you said though. Mc would you made the original choice and it's a great choice but thinking about what you said. You named four astros that i take votes away from each other right like the mvp award guys deserve it. Split votes neither one of them win it right. So yeah. I get it but watson and listen. You can't go wrong. But if i had to do one i'd probably have to do him. Just because when. You think. Texans as good as watts been it's a no brainer right. You would watch. Then what did i say that no did i didn't mean to do. It might say. I would do watson meaning what meaning if you do. What if watson wasn't on this team. I would my choice would have been i. Would i would do what his place meaning. I would have put what it watching spot is the guy. No i'm not gonna do watson i'm not gonna dig this holy deep because i'm not doing either one of them choose them not do them. Okay so there you go but good call by to pick up on it and now. They're not doing anybody. Okay named watson bregman or mc all right so there it is what would you guys do. Final final few minutes before we move on to in the trenches with andy clue and chris. Gordy you got one guy to vote in an athlete in this town for the next four years the rest got to go. We got a bregman in to watson's which got sports. Talk seven ninety. Hey your roof over fifteen years old. Let's replace it right wrong. sean. Here i wanna tell you how you add years of life to your roof and save thousands of dollars in the process. It's called roof. Max with two x.'s. They got a patent pending technology. That a fastest growing roofing company in the country. They've got over six hundred locations including right here in houston so instead of replacing your roof like other roofers will suggest of course. why wouldn't they. Hey by the way. How much is it going to cost a fifteen to twenty thousand dollars. 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Talk seven ninety home of the rockets stroz and the best lineup in houston scored. Now back to sean salisbury by mc. Us for it we have. I said who is if you had to elect one athlete this town for the next four years the rest had to go. Who would it be. Fc took alex. Bregman both brendan. And i took the shawn watson. We thought it wasn't. It was easy choice and mc baseball town. I think it is too until the texans or if they win a championship now said you wanna vice president who is it mc og. If if i'm going baseball there are good advice. Presidency to sean. Just because i am. I going to load up on one sport. That's for sure. Okay would do brennan who your vice president. I'm struggling to think of even going with the football option. I might go over to the astros and go at the. I think korea football. I really don't know watson's. I is your president. So you're going to have to go hard and before you went another texan. I mean you had to go a lot of players before you women. And i don't care but i i would go although you know what but what so good but what is is put a hall of fame crip like been in the in politics and i'm we're kind of a plant politics to sports for a long time. He's also been like politician of the year bunch but also he is great for your fundraising. He knows how to raise money. You could actually put him as vice president and be really happy. You did right. Could in that role right the team vet right right so you're going to go. You're you're thinking korea you. I'm going to flip to harden 'cause on second thought on this idea that like you're wiping the slate clean everywhere else. I didn't you can build a winner around hearted. So if i'm starting fresh with the rockets i want hard and his vp. For me the second. Who's my vice president. I gotta take into account. I don't need as big a leader. I need a guy who is really good support. Never bad mouth always doesn't want to be star understated but powerful. That could take over if necessary. The shawn's might president. Mike guy the athlete i want for the next four years. Who second. there's it. You know what i'm actually gonna. I'm actually going to do it. I'm going to stick to. Jj watt. i am still good. He understands the game. I don't think he would ever bad mouth. His president is leader. I would've taken out. They would have been He was sitting next on my next choice. So al to revise gone baseball. He'd be my vice president. I would think that bregman. I don't think bregman will want the role of vice president. I think he likes to roller president. I think jj's the guy who's been the ceo been the ball and it's he. He's okay with supporting his his leader. Which is the sean watson and still being a leader but also man he can go into communities and make a difference. I would probably choose those two guys. But how to if i was getting outside of the football realm i think i too would probably be my vice president. I think vice president for me is much harder than the president in this situation. I and i gotta pick it still based on being good. It's nothing against. Jj use it for four years. We're just yours for years. What will he be. That's a good point. That's a good point. Because i did say four hundred sitting here thinking one year. But i don't want to replace one year. So i would have to go baseball. I would probably take give vice president. Al altoona. i'll take president because he's understated he doesn't have a big ego on the outside competitive had success still has success in front of him. I i'm going. I'll go watson out to vote for me. You're exactly right. Mc thanks for pointing that out if it was two years. I could live with the watson thing for years. It may not be the athlete that they may not be the guy in four years that we want is a i mean you can still play at the highest level hardened still to president honestly right right so vice president i can get a little more way with your probably that. See you got bregman. And who'd you take as your vice watson you're proba you got a powerful the powerful cabinet there but I'll watch now. Two bregman is probably the likely choices. Well because of his youth and the power he wields in the town and is upside. I get that too. Did you settle on one brandon. Did you settle on one hard. I still feel good with art. Okay that's fair. That's very build around him for years. He's still in the prime of his career. You don't get the water altuve a-level leader but you're still getting a vet. Who's been around a guy you can build around. I feel good about it if i was if you wanted to dominate. If you're talking about the two most dominating players you watson hardened probably the guys that can still that are that the capabilities of just completely embarrassing everybody else with their performance. Yet we soccer. You know what. I'm saying where they're so good. I first stretches right carrying them on your shoulders but we've also seen bregman do it at times to parade did it. I mean does the postseason i like. I think i like all three of ours. I do. I think. I like watson as president but i understand the bregman card and i think i like your guys hardened and mc you've got a powerful one because you could flip if all the sudden bregman was had a hammy watson can take over as president right pretty easy. Yeah yeah so. I think we we put it this way. We've got a lot to choose from in this town as far as stars. We said that before. So there's your election you guys can mull it over to you. Want to chime in will do that. You can give some ideas on twitter. You got all of our twitter handles brennan great stuff that i appreciate you being in here. I know what the last night two can be a pain. But thank you for getting up early and doing this thing today. We appreciate you see great stuff appreciate you guys. Lot of good on the texans today and what's next not only in the front office but That they did the right thing by not trading will fuller for a fourth round pick. Now go get a victory. We'll discuss game plan tomorrow. But our thursday edition on sports. Talk seven ninety in the trenches and clue. Chris gordon next followed by the matt. Thomas show with ross in the team this afternoon thanks for joining us For brennan an embassy. I'm sean we don't ever take for granted we appreciate you. Be safe out there. Be kind still waiting on results. You can still be kind sportstalk. Seven hundred we will see you in twenty hours. Stay right here.

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PFF's Steve Palazzolo Discusses What The Texans Need To Do To Win Games

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PFF's Steve Palazzolo Discusses What The Texans Need To Do To Win Games

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In any now, maybe an individual had a good game but has a unit on the linebacking unit, the front, the defense front seven, the back in the office of I have dominated. The other team canceled the quarterback out with Ben and Lamar Pat homes that they played. The, Texans have not dominated a unit the whole year and they're all in three and I know the personnel, their plans pretty good. But they have truthfully been barely competitive a little bit in the Pittsburgh Game But if you're not dominate and everything and you have to rely on Watson to win every single week, it's going to be a long season. Yeah I think it's a fair assessment I mean. Looking back through. Grades I'm thinking okay what I'm trying to think of what what was a disappointment from this past weekend while the run defense has been terrible I talked quite a bit about the lack of pass rush the inability of the back seven to cover at a high level in a league that needs it The offensive line is probably taking a step back this year compared to some of the steps for they took last year and I still don't know. I I was I was optimistic about how the wide receiving corps would would work with Watson I. Thought that, yeah, I really thought that spread in the ball around you know Michigan those shot plays and just using that speed I just don't feel like they're challenging the defense would speed, and again it's a team game like I said last week it's like when they have the shot plays dialed up maybe getting separation, but there's pressure or you know when Watson? Finally show some patients in the pocket You know he misses the threat. There's just one thing off per play. It seem. So yeah I think it's a fair assessment across the board. It just hasn't been a good performance taxi. Can we talked about Defensive Front Steve I I honestly and I know we've spoken about this a little bit but. I can go to a receiver and say, listen I need you when we call a twelve yard curl route or an option right I need you to get to your depth. We gotta be precise right got I can teach that. I. Mean Most can't coaches can I don't think I can fix now it's one thing scheming ups and other things but when you're getting manhandled at the line of scrimmage schemer no. Scheme when we're just you're just getting your ass kicked three straight weeks and there's not the guess guess who's not available for a trade Aaron Donald you don't get to get him. So I don't think it's fixable. I don't I, think you've got to get a lead early and hope the other team asked to throw every down because I don't know how they're going to stop even average and then they gotta play. An offensive line in Indianapolis they gotTa play Tennessee Titans team that you know what they're gonNA. Do they're going to wear your ass out a frontal? How in the world? Do you fix this with this personnel? Well it's not easy. I get starts with. The linebackers right. But not mckenry mckanie in can have to play better and and they have played that you know that's part of the issue as well. You know when you're coming into the season and I always focused on the back seven and coverage it's like well, I expected better linebacker play I expected Jj watt you know to you know play close to what he had been when healthy the last couple of years, which is still one of the best lineman at Lake but he can't do it all by himself and then there was just we. Hope that Whitney Mercilus gets back on track. We hope some of those young guys develop on the interior, many hugh done and haul it it just hasn't happened. So I don't know if there's a great solution other than the other you know up front and they're you know the dependable personnel, the Watson mckinney's, and Cunningham's of the world just having performed to this point expect them to get better but you just eat everybody step up at this point Steve Palolo senior analysts as he does every week joins us at this time here on sports talk. seven, nine from pro football focus. All Right Steve. You mentioned in a previous answer about they just the speed and not utilizing a right steve it seems like every year I know how tough it is to coach and you do too been around at you played sports year round these coaches all the time I know it's not easy but doesn't there come a point in time. When we keep saying it, the personnel may change but the way they approach a game plan in a season stays the same. It's groundhog day you watch Kansas City and I know mahomes is different but even Kyle Shanahan. Who has all these guys really shouldn't even be on the field starting any adjust the game plan against a bad team, but they hang thirty six points on it. With backups. So why is it that it doesn't matter what happens that we can't get a different aggressive approach on a fourth quarter game then played four quarters and I don't know how long. With the Houston Texans is it time for a change? Well to quote my co host of the PF NFL podcast, he was same month and he's talking about cal Shannon and he was like he said, it was like ten Kopplin when he's golfing with gardening tools like that was him on Sunday with nobody in still putting up thirty six. Yeah. I mean I think there does need to be. You have to walk back there right and it still comes down to playing to a strength and I always wanted I thought about this with Watson and Clemson, you know they they did some stuff at Clemson that was. Quote Unquote simple from quarterback standpoint, I, remember, evaluating, watching and thinking this because they just have a simple offense or is it because they feel limited because of his skill set and I'm not saying he has a limited skill set but we sit here every week and say you know he could get better at this doesn't this and even you know I play the game it's protections off JJ. Watt. TJ wants in his face and it's like how how are we not blocking T. J. Watt with five nine protection against the five-man rush so amen I'm wondering how much? They don't want to put more on Watson's plate or how much I think coaches. Can get complacent with like hey, I don't WanNa put too much on him because I want. To ball out and in our best option is symbolic out four or five times a game, and just you know making plays and we'll take the negatives because the trunk plays they're gonNa be there when he just plays. So I wonder how much is relying on natural playmaking ability but the best hybrid is what we saw last night, the chiefs, the chiefs throughout their fifteen different screens to start the game. And they're lulling the defense asleep, and before you know homes is just dropping dimes you know over the top. So they have this perfect combination of incredible screen game. Incredible. Easy stuff is getting free yards and free stack left and right. But Oh, by the way he's special and he's GonNa make ridiculous rose to I mean obviously that's the best way to play offense. So Yeah I. Mean I do feel like. With this personnel. Defensive should be scared. They should be scared of Brandin cooks and willful or getting behind the defense of Randall cobb running around the middle of the deal with any stills and his speed right they should be afraid that on any given play one of those guys behind the defense and you have to get linebackers moving and safety is moving and challenge there is disciplined. There's definitely a lot of things that can be done to us this personality to try to create more trump plays downfield and they don't, and that's a problem in Steve you hit it you rely on special player. In Shawn Watson to ball out like you said, four five times a game in a certain spurt a time. Here's the problem when you play Ben. Or. Pat. Or Lamar or the good ones. League Daniel had a ball out to and if nobody else on your team or unit is out, it really doesn't matter and so far this season over the consistency of four quarters. Watson's made enough mistakes where he hasn't been able to carry a team that quite frankly isn't doing much of anything else. Well, you know what I mean. So that's a heavy burden to bear that. You. Think in week to Mahomes did not play Patrick mahomes football until late in the game, he put the bought his handiwork recipe, go score but somebody else in the game did they did enough to win the game to keep a close? So we can do it and when you're within three touchdowns, it's very tough to score three touchdowns at six minutes. For Two touchdowns and then it forces you to throw a ball across your body when you're up one and get a pick and I, make excuse for Watson. The problem is it's the same thing every week that we never have eleven players on the same page or quite frankly it appears to coaching staff doesn't seem to be on the same page either. Yeah. So like I described as the floor for Kansas, city offense is just really hot. Mahomes. Statistically has never really had a bad game but from a quarterback play standpoint, he has had bad games and to your point when he has bad games, he's still comes out of it with three touchdowns and you know two hundred, ninety ours and it's like, oh, he didn't feel like he played great but you know guys around him or the scheme you took care of it so I'm and then the. Game like last night where it all comes together scheme straight mahomes great and it's like all right. Well, this this team's unstoppable. So yeah, it's it's a challenge again, I don't know what the solution is other than Watch Watson? You get better. You know some of his weaknesses. Pass protect your You know setting protection, find it hotz patients in the pocket accuracy I mean he was off on another over the middle he just missed it by a mile it should have been you know. So there's just but again, it can't be every single week you know watching needs to play in an MVP level. So I would love to see more creativity with some of their wide receivers I would love to see you know getting those guys in space but you know he had brandin cooks was open on a deep ball to that watch missed I mean it really is. One thing is off per play and it makes it feel very uncomfortable watching that offense because there's just no rhythm because everybody's just not not playing while at the same time. Yeah he had. He had that one down the left sideline would have scored. He threw it to flat and the ball landed in the end I mean he missed a thrill when it was a five yard separation those are the ones that I hate to say it at this point that. Pat Or Russ don't miss they. They just don't and that's the next level and it's a burden to bear because he has so much pressure on him. All right. The Vikings come to town Steve Darrow and three I. I'm not real big on their substance but they ran the ball well, Jefferson played well. What's the approach for the Vikings to get after the Texas this week and how do you prevent it with two three teams? This would be a brutal loss if this happens. Yeah, I mean, look I expect things to get better for the Texans play the Vikings Jaguars couple of times over actually weeks. I think they'll be competitive against the titans I. Don't think you know three and over so I. Don't think they're. It's that big of a difference between those two roster says the retrograde go. But with the Vikings you know you know kirk cousins she needs to play. A very much in rhythm game. You talk about how you know how much help you need cousins is like the epitome of needs things to be pristine for him from a play action standpoint from a reach standpoint. So just trying to disrupt cousins game, you talk about how? You know how much help each other like the epitome of he needs things to be pristine for him from a play action standpoint from a reach standpoint. So just trying to disrupt cousins a little bit make him make plays out structure. He made a nice on Sunday but that's kind of rare for him. You Know Delvin Cook and he can create big plays. He's awesome as a running back. I'm not. You know again it's a pass I you want to run defense to be better than it's been and I think the Vikings are gonna come in here thinking man with all the poor run fits we're. Seeing from the Texans and the linebacker play I think they're gonNA try to run the ball You gotta limit them a little bit on their on early down. So again, I the vikings are almost like an identity crisis mode because they've got kirk cousins who needs a great supporting cast, but they're also kind of in rebuilding mode bringing in fifteen rookie. So it's a weird spot for the Vikings. They're also better than their own three record. You know they should won the game against Tennessee. So I think it'll be a decent game but you know I look for the Texans to bounce back while this week. Twitter they need Steve Great. Stuff man I'll look forward to talking to you next week enjoy all the tape you get to watch and we'll do it again. Next Tuesday. Yeah. Getting back to thanks John Appreciate it. Thanks Steve. Tomasulo senior analyst pro football focus. We'll come back and discuss. He makes lot good points. It's been disappointing, and if the players aren't watching and seeing this on tape than they're not, they're not being critical enough for themselves and same with the coaches but I would imagine the players are you gotta fix can't keep talking about Sports Talk Seven, Ninety Soda. Weight Loss Soda at home. program. I'm always looking around for proof I don't like diets. I like weight loss, enhance your life. Feel good about it energy strong. Not have to sacrifice much because you feel like, oh my gosh when you feel like you're giving up too much you'll go back off at. 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Mailbag Show: Seahawks Offense, Four-Receiver Sets, OT Rules | Monday Morning Podcast

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Mailbag Show: Seahawks Offense, Four-Receiver Sets, OT Rules | Monday Morning Podcast

"Hello and welcome to the M qb Monday morning NFL PODCASTS or host Gary grambling I will be joined by special guests in just a moment I'll I, mean look we? We asked you to send in some questions and you did that. And therefore we're going to answer those questions on what we are terming a mail bag show, and with that I bring in. Our very special guest once again. android Andy Welcome back to the show. Yep, thank you and. Total lack of preparation masking as artistic. Nuance, I'm going to just tell you I have not read these questions ahead of time. L.! Wow, well, except there's one we went over just now, but but other than that these will be spontaneous. This is GonNa Shock. You I. Actually didn't write that intro beforehand. You just came up with that. It was just it was brilliance off the top of the head. I mean I'm sure everyone. is going to be really surprised by that. we got a handful of questions I. Think these are these are good ones. I I also thank everyone for not completely defacing my email inbox. I gave out on the last show. You're all good people I appreciate all of you, but let's let's just jump right into it. We'll get to as many of these as we can. We're going to start with Arthur from London. you guys have previously talked about diamond fronts, and how defense defenses used. These looks to create one on one blocking opportunities for their defensive Lineman. Even when not all the delighting rush, the offense has to commit to protection calls which creates one on one matchup across line. This seems like a great tactic for teams to use to create favourable matchups. My question is what can. Offense is due to combat this tactic and I would add andy. We seen the Diamond Front for a couple years now and I would say what have offensive offense is done to combat the diamond fronts? Well. Just, so everybody's cleared the Diamond Front is a basic four down front so to three. We're talking about pass rushing four down front to three techniques to defensive ends, and then the difference is there is a guy walked up over the center, so the four down front becomes a five down front, and because there's a guy over the center, then the center cannot go help anybody so now there's no protection slides. You're very limited like that. Everyone's just blocking the guy across from them, so that's what he's describing and as far as what teams will. Will do first of all I do think the five down front is at its height right now it has certainly replaced the double gap front as the Go-to look on passing downs Houston, really blazed the trail and Mansur. Teams have been doing it for a long time, but for making it a mainstream regular third down tactic Houston a few years ago, blazed the trail with that. Whitney Mercilus was the guy who would walk up over the sender and I happen to think that he's much better. Pass rusher from that position than off the edge. And other teams have copied it so. What offense is can do first of all. You just live with the mismatches and understand. We're getting the ball out quickly and a lot of diamond fronts. Come in because they're in past situations. You'RE GONNA. Have Answers for getting the ball out quickly. You'RE GONNA have three receivers on this on the field. You're probably spread out a little bit. You might even be into an empty formation, so there's that approach. There's the other approach of if you're willing to block with more than they rush. You're willing to keep the back in block with six guys knowing that they're rushing five. Then you can get into. Into some of your protection slides and the things that you usually do not a lot of teams do that because you don't want to. You don't want a sense, six blockers or six offense guys on only five rushers. But if there's if you're saying you're playing those Texans. You're playing night. The Titans for example team that was very good out of five down fronts. My able be the connection there by the way variable was with the Texans. Came into vogue, but if you're playing that Kinda team, you might WanNa put in a package like that. And, lasting gear before I answer this for five straight men thing I'm at three minutes. Let's go for five right here. I don't want you to talk at all today. When you start watching these five down fronts and isolation a I watched all of Tennessee's five down fronts for example last year you do start noticing trends and patterns and one thing that they do specifically if they have to. linebackers walked up in those be gaps where the defensive tackles would normally be Almost always those linebackers drop into coverage if they're both in the gaps, so you can start finding those kind of patterns about who's coming and not coming based on how they line up now. If I know that Titan's probably know that they have that tendency, you don't WanNa game playing completely for that, but that's that's how that that's how that goes. All right sexy from Carter and look. I WANNA. Make something clear Carter we frown upon to park. Questions on the mailbag shows so whether it comes through or not just know that. Andy and I are frowning at you right now. However, I do like these two questions so I am going to allow it in this case. So Carl Carter. Ask First of all these these are seahawks center questions here. would ever send Griffin makes sense for the seahawks. And why given that he can bend the edge a little bit better than Damian cloudy, so let's start with Everson Griffen and what he is and his potential fitness Seattle I do think he would be a better fit in Seattle than Judean cloudy would be head to head if we're just talking. Pass rushing situations. If we get into all down running downs, cloudy gains a lot of ground in that part of the debate, and maybe it becomes a little more even my guess is griffin cost eighty percent of what cloudy would cost. Maybe not now 'cause counties, market's gotten skewed, but conceptually Griffin's going to be a little bit cheaper than Clowney, and if I had pick head to head between the two money considered I'd probably pick Griffin. I think what Griffin is. He still a prominent passer gear he he created a lot of turnovers last year his style. Eh Rushing! I think lends itself turnovers. He comes from a little bit whiter ground, so there's more of a head full of steam as he reaches the QB. He takes outstanding angles and his or she's a very tight rusher once he gets into the rush and his bullrushes phenomenal, because he plays with such great leverage to begin with so I really like Everson Griffen at this point in a perfect world. You're probably using him just passing situations, and in two minutes situation, so he might do a little bit run defense How old is he? I'm looking his jeopardy's not as he's been around a while I, don't think he's old. I only know he's he's thirty two. He did come in. Early Thirty two is a little bit. I mean that's that's pushing it though I mean we've we've talked about this. On past shows these edge rushers. They tend to age pretty well and we kind of wondered as to why, but you know you look at some of the guys across the League or still effective guys off the edge. I think Griffin is still I mean. I wouldn't call us his prime, but I would still say he is sort of you know within the the window of effectiveness. Yeah I would agree with that and we have seen pass. rushers age well Justin Houston heads of very great moments in Indianapolis last year. I did think Houston slowed down a little bit as the season progressed, but he's still someone you can plug in there. And get ten sacks a year out of Houston's about the same age as Griffin's a little bit younger, subs obviously. been at a high level late into his thirties for a Lotta years, so yeah, they can age well The discussion becomes whether you want them to be Justin pass rush only roles Dwight Franey was great in that role late in his career, even as a Falcon at times and I didn't Griffin would be a tremendous signing for the seahawks. He makes alive. When I heard that rumor initially I thought that makes perfect sense that that that'd be a great match for them. All right part two of Carter's question here and again we are. We are very much frowning. How does carless hides running style Mesh with the seahawks power run game. Good question I think height is a in running back in a good way he is, he's similar. They're different styles of of runners. When you're looking at their the way they run, but in terms of how you would use them. He similar to mark Ingram, and that you plug them in and he's GonNa. Run the play exactly the way it's designed to be. He's going to get a little bit more than the blocking could get forum he'll. He'll create a few extra yards at times, but you know what you're getting Carlos Height and I think that's what a lot of teams want with their running game, so hide will match any system because of that. Seattle has expanded now. They used to be just a zone team outside zone team in marshawn Lynch for a Lotta years on their outside zone. He would just cut it up inside almost immediately, and they're outside zone had a different feel to it. Because of that hide I could envision doing that very well I could also envision him running traditional outside zone well, but the seahawks now in this post Lynch era. They've become so much more than just an outside zone running team. It's a more expansive running game that they have I. Think you can do whatever you want with height. He can run behind pull blockers, or he can run behind zone blockers. And I do want to expand that and this summer we've talked about off the earlobe Andy, and and maybe have an answer. Maybe you don't put up with you on the spot. I mean look at everyone's clamoring for the seahawks of throw the ball more to to get away from the the run heavy attack. They use under Brian Schottenheimer last two years. If, you are theoretically going with a play action, heavy attack and yeah. We've discussed it now. It's been discussed sort of much more generally that you don't necessarily have to. There's no such thing as value in sabotaging the run you know. Defenses will react to what you show them. The play action game. Does. It doesn't matter how good you running backs. I mean obviously want good running backs because you want them to gain yards when they have the ball in their hands, but. Does it make sense to invest in running back especially to the extent that the seahawks have invested in running back the last couple of years. Because they took Rishaad Penny in the first round and twenty eighteen, and then Chris Carson, their seventh rounder from the previous year has still been their best running back overall, so you could certainly make an argument in any direction. Like that and I would love to hear what Seattle truly thinks about. My guess is they think the quality of the back does matter because if they truly thought you could just plug him in, they would not have drafted penny were they did? But that's the debate that goes back and forth and the other debate that you touched on. Should they throw the ball more? I can tell you. That's a debate within their building in Seattle. In a good way, that's that's the conversation that they're always trying to have, and it gets back to Russel Wilson. What a fascinating player that he is! There's no question. He's their best player in in when they're at their best, it's Wilson making plays. The discussion is can be a part of your foundation because if you're going to throw the ball a lot in. In Russell Wilson your quarterback. You have to plan for having a lot of schedule place. That's where he's at his best stylistically and a few years ago. They were throwing a lot. And Wilson did some great things. But when the problem is when those off schedule plays do not work especially early on get a lot of three and outs in. Seattle had a lot of three and outs, and there were games a couple of years ago, where they just never got into any rhythm at all, because the off schedule stuff didn't work well early in the game. So go ahead. Yeah, no I I was going to say to your point and I know a lot of people look. I'M NOT GONNA. Sit here and say you know. SORTA defend Brian. China Hummer I also think the seahawks would throw the ball more but. Number. One Pete Carroll has a has a big. Thumb on what they do authentically, so it's not just a you know I. It's not just a schottenheimer decision here, but Darryl devils last two years. The seahawks threw the ball more often than not in what you'd call neutral situations taking out Down distance obvious stuff. And those were the worst years of the. Basically the Pete Carroll Russell Wilson era offensively that that those were the least effective offensive years when they did go especially, pass heavy so I mean. Again I I just wonder how much Pete Carroll looks at this, and says like boy while we kind of did that a couple of years ago and it didn't work out. is an excuse to not try it now. I would say you probably not I think you want to unlock a little bit more with that. At this point. Otherwise I don't think you're getting over the topping NFC but. I kind of. I kind of understand how they've. Landed where they have landed the last two seasons. The answer lies somewhere in the middle of this, so did they get a little extreme indigo in the past heavy years ago? Yeah, they probably felt that they did, and they've been a defensive team for a lot of years. And that's your right Pete Carroll ultimately this stuff all falls on him and it's his decision. Now the discussion is okay, but if we're going to be such a run, heavy team, you're gonNA, have a lot of three and outs running the ball as well as the nature of it. You get stuffed. You're at second nine all the sudden, and now you're off schedule right away and so. It's a fine line. It's a hard one to know. Here's what I think. Ultimately first of all your often takes the shape, your quarterback first and foremost, however, the guys around him have to be able to play his well, and they have to find a rhythm, and they have to have certain foundational things that they do. Hey, here's what we do best running around and making plays that can maybe be what you do best, but it cannot be your foundational thing. The slower developing passes are were Wilson is at his absolute, most dangerous on these on the sandlot style of plays, and those slower developing passes come out of running concepts think about bootlegs play action in. Anything that has extra blockers in Seattle often runcie was six offense Sulaiman on the field that six linemen becomes an extra blocker. Save more guys in pass protection that allows for routes to get further downfield. All of that is where Seattle. It's really more about their passing game. They're passing games at its best out of running concepts. So if you're going to have that style a passing game inherently you do want your run game not. Not because you need established a run to make the passes work, but just because all of this works better when you're balanced offense and those passes are designed to go against the defense. That's that's defending both the run in the past or not designed for defense is editor cheating towards the pats? The problem is if you just run, the ball is see your. Do Okay with it and now you're asking Russell Wilson to bail you. You out in the fourth quarter. I. Think you could argue that's happened a lot in Seattle, and that's why the discussion takes place. Do we want to throw the ball more or run the ball more? But the longer the play goes the better quarterback. Russell Wilson is the more dangerous at he becomes, and pass plays out of run concepts, longer developing place, and and one other thing by the way, Gary. Seattle's did a great job. Job of building plays off of those sandlot things they'll have play designed, and then they say okay. That's the play designed, and if it if we extend the play, then here's what the design becomes, and they have answers for that. They practice at stuff a lot. It's not as randomized as people and probably honestly people like me would be inclined to think it's not always just random sandlot football. It can look that way though. All right, let's let's stay. In the NFC west year. There's a question from Sam. Schilling and it's a question, and then it's a sort of hypothetical with a question and boy I I loved those my frowned from Carter's two part. Question has just completely flipped upside down into What you call a reverse frown. Sam Ass I want to know Andy's thoughts on four wide receiver sets for the cardinals. Why is this considered a gimmick in NFL circles now his hypothetical. Here's my current hypothesis about the cardinals. Twenty twenty approach I'm assuming Dander Hopkins later. Fitzgerald and Christian Kirk. will all see the majority of the snaps? Add to that an impressive twenty, nineteen, late twenty, nineteen, showing from tight end in name, only Dan Arnold, and you had four receiving threats on the field that at that are at their best lining up in space, if the safety split against a two by to look giving the defense, a three over to look on both sides of the ball, also, we're talking to of those receivers Dan, Arnold, being one of them on each side of the ball defenses go the switch. Safety looks so that way. You have three basically past defenders each side of the formation. That leaves the defense with a light box. Tyler can account for one of those defenders with the read option and the cardinals and Kenyan. Drake are left with a five on four in the run game. Where am I making a mistake in this line of logic. Okay hers are the Great Question It's one we need as we've talked about. You probably need visuals on it. It would help for that. Here's what he's getting at Dell. Essentially, the broad plant is four wide receivers, equals more space and does more space including in the form of less bodies on defense. Does that help you running game and for a few years? I thought absolutely I even. Asked, probably. Several dozen coaches why not just spread out all the time and run the ball against a lighter boxes or those clarify defenses like that? Why not do that because if you think about if you take a guy who's say, you take a would be tight end. Who's going to be blocking up on the line of scrimmage and that guy instead just becomes a slot receiver. Receiver who's further out away well, somebody has to guard that guy which means the person that he would have been blocking as the tight end is essentially now just out covering him as a slot receiver. Why wouldn't you WANNA just take instead of blocking a defender? Why wouldn't you WanNa just take him out of the play like that altogether, because then if the block fails. Matter the guys out of the play and there's more space from the defense. The I'd rather have a guy not there than a guy to block. That was the theory, and there were some coaches who said flat out. Yeah, you should do that more in the reason. You don't see it as coaches in the League idiots. That's that was one answer. The answer is the one that ultimately changed my thinking on it. You become a very rigid running game when you do that. If you're spreading out and running the ball, and especially, if you're in four wide receiver and running the ball, you'll only have one back in the Backfield, which means you you really don't have a lot of ways to change the formation after the snap, if a fullbacks in there or a second tight end or even just one tight end, those guys can can become Lee blockers. They can cross the formation. They can change the strength and weakness of the formation. The numbers count. There's more to process and anytime you move a guy. He creates to gaps one gap on his left and one on his. His right to pull blocker is one way to do it, but a lead blocker adds to gaps the one on the left and one on his right. You don't get any of those options in the running game. If you're spreading out and just running the ball with one back in the Backfield, you could maybe use the pull blocker to create some other dimension, but you're still very limited there, so you're a rigid running game when you're spreading out and running the ball and defenses have less to defend in less to worry about so they're going after your run plays with more ferocity, there's less thinking more instincts and that's a hard defense to run against. That was really good answer Andy Was it? Yeah, well I mean I feel like I talk in circles on this because I have gone over this a lot, and you go back and forth, but look at the teams that play the two best offenses in the NFL this year, and a lot of respects were the ravens in the forty niners, and what they were both built on was adding bodies. Snap guys going in motion to change the formation after the snap two guys in the backfield. They did a lot where you're changing the formation after the snap. And I think that's the direction football's going. In fact, it'll be interesting if some of these teams like the rams, for example that play out of a lot of three receivers or the cardinals. What we're talking about if they start going to more too tight end stuff and just trying to find the flexible, the problem is there's not enough good. Dynamic all around tight ends in the NFL. Yeah, that's what we've been clamoring for. The question is from David Emmett and I'll mostly handle this one andy. David David. Did. You can go take a break. This year's wrapped obviously took place under extraordinary circumstances with teams, having less opportunity to evaluate to evaluate players due to the cove, nineteen, pandemic and restrictions. Do you think this made teams? More conservative with their draft picks where their players who got passed over who might otherwise have been given a shot, especially in more specialized roles, and conversely were there players taken because they looked like more conventionally good fit for a role, despite maybe some doubts over some aspect of their play or their fit. I can just tell you this. Yes, overall everything about this draft was a little more conservative I mean you could. I, it's really tough to say how each team evaluated each individual player, and obviously everything's going to tell you that you know. They got the guy they were targeting book. There is so little movement as far as. Trading up, and especially, when it came to trading up twenty twenty, one picks her future picks I don't think there were any future picks that got moved in a draft day trade until I, I think it was that when the saints came back up in the at the end of day to to get Adam Trautman, the the Dayton tight end. I think that was the only. Trade in the first two days of the draft that involved a twenty twenty one picking it, so you know everyone was kind of uncomfortable with what they were looking at in two thousand twenty. They figured they'd be more comfortable with what they're going to be looking at twenty, twenty, one and one other note, and obviously there's more of a day three thing, but are Kayla. wrote plenty about the you know the draft and the pandemics effect on it, and she also did or prospect X. series again and we're recounted. Track the. Anonymous who who we deemed based on Intel, D most overlooked prospect in the draft, but There were only nine non F.. B. Prospects drafted this year that was down from seventeen in two, thousand, nineteen, and you know over the last I e tip who saw between seventeen and twenty four, a small school prospects and of those nine small schools has got drafted. Only three of them were combine snubs. Now a big reason for that is, is you know basically teams can get guys in for medical checks, so if you didn't have a combine medical check and you weren't from a large school and a lot of large schools teams have. More. Firm relationships with them, and therefore they they. They have a better. Read, on what they're going to get from the medical staffs there so the late round picks ended up being from a lot of the bigger schools at teams were sort of more comfortable with taking that medical risk and Yeah, we just young guys who didn't get a chance to get in there in the combine. It didn't go to large school they. They really didn't get much of a shot this year and we'll see what they do. As far as the tryouts go. You were loving that answer. You were cited for that. Go. A distance from Owen Egan here. I have a question about how people is influenced the perception. Some fans now have a certain coaches and players. For, instance, a quarterback who gets big numbers and fancy points is viewed overwhelmingly positively whereas one who might go out and execute the game plan more efficiently. Your mistake free is labeled a game manager I wouldn't summit up as style versus substance, but it appears that for a lot of fans. Football isn't about the result, but the individual stat line I have thoughts on this Andy I I I I WANNA. Do you want me to sort of a star on and you can. You can sprinkle in or reverse it here. No I mean. If you think you still got. The energy left after the after the draft question. That's I fine. I'm really a role player on this show, so I'm not. I'm not crazy about this I look. My theory is number. One individual outlines always get overblown. There are so many factors that go into you know every player's performance that is out of their control. Even. The stuff that's considered more advanced the game charting type of stuff that that does even that doesn't quite take into You know you get. Sort of a narrow snapshot, but you don't get the. The full on grasp of what's going on on the field with with those types of individual numbers. I will say this though. I think the modern NFL and the fact that it is so easy relative to the old league. It is so easy to put up points. I do think there is something to be said for. Let's say quarterbacks who put up big numbers you obviously you want your quarterback to put up big numbers because that generally means score more points, but I don't think the sort of risk averse. Let's try and win these games seventeen to fourteen I I just don't think that's a style that that really works anymore. the Patriots GonNa. Try It. We'll see how it goes this year, but I I really think. I would say without actually running the numbers that you would probably see a much closer correlation to quarterback sort of cumulative stats and wins that you would have maybe in the in the eighties and nineties. Couple things. To keep in mind. Most quarterbacks are system quarterbacks, and that their style plays tied very heavily to the system, and they're reliant on that. The only guy that you could probably argue is not necessarily a system QB. It's not a great argument because this team has really revamp their system to fully accentuate. This guy is Patrick Mahomes in Kansas City. He might be one who transcends the system and can just do. Mean just make magic more often than not. You could argue Wilson, but we just had a long talk about Wilson and and what systems best for him so obviously there, there's a system connection with all these guys. It'll drew brees. It's put up huge numbers over the years over recent years, and they have basically become a dink and dunk offense and if We didn't know it was drew brees, and we didn't know the history of the saints that we just saw the stats, and even the advance stats of how many short throws they have, and how rarely they put the ball, twenty plus yards downfield. You say well. That's a ball control day, manager system offense, and it's not breezes just become such a savant and magician within her. Just a wizard running the offense that it takes on that shape and form because it's so efficient so. I've always struggled with this quite a fair question. I've always struggled with it. I think almost always. Oh, Gary System, the system and the. Tied together. All Right? Let's get into the real meat of the show here which is suggested rule changes That's that's what everyone comes here for. This is where we are at our best and We'll first of all. How disappointed are you? We talked about last week the fourth and fifteen onside kick being tabled. I was initially disappointed. Thinking Oh. What what? What are they doing, but then I? Read Okay they're worried about unintended consequences, and that once I stopped and thought about more I. Get that completely understand it so. See I think they I think. Unintended consequences went out the window last year when they took on the pass interference I'm not saying I'm not seeing you. Of that was the design no. I'm not saying you can't learn from your, but that was not. That was such a bad idea, and it was a bad idea as soon as they enacted, it never knew it was going to be a bad idea to sort of fall back. Over correcting one, I think they're just cowards, but I think they're over correcting. After last year, just shorter throwing caution into the wind to get Sean Payton to stop. Complaining at I, Dunno league meeting, breakfast or whatever? Well the mistake they made with the passenger fares. Thing was putting it on the hands of the coaches, instead of just making that an automatic review from New York I mean that was part of a, but then you're right. There was inconsistency. If you're right and say this I guess, but I think you would agree. There was an inconsistency to the way it was enforced, and that was the problem i. I get it these are. This is a big decision. Because this swings games, this is. This fourth and fifteenth thing replacing the onside kick. This would swing the way. The game is played a pass. Interference doesn't necessarily swing the way the game played. It's certainly swings how it plays out, but you're not calling a player changes strategy on the idea of getting a pass interference call. That's not how it works this. You could impact strategy in the way. The game goes along so I. Understand why they would be concerned about unintended consequences. Their thing is we've seen. Seen and they can do this and I think they're to do this. They can just say yeah. We're tabling it and then decide later like Oh. Let's not table it. Let's bring it out. It's not like they're being governed by laws. It's their league and they're running their league. They can just change your mind later and say we're actually going to do it this way and no one's GonNa. That's that's fine. No one's GONNA complain if if it's the right decision. All right, let's get back to the actual questions for mark from the audience here. Joe Gottfried Ass. Here's a suggested rule. Change on my son posed a while back in the more I thought about it. The more it made sense. Why shouldn't the penalty for offense of delay of game simply be a loss of down after all? You failed to get the playoff in the allotted time, so you should just lose the opportunity to. Play I I will say theoretically I like this as a practical matter. I do not. It seems like an awfully harsh punishment. Yeah, for a rule that teams are never rarely rarely. Are they flaunting? Like teams are not just taking the delay of game as much as actions much I think they should or much as you. Deaths I've always been surprised. How afraid of delay of game penalties teams tend to be, they'll. They'll burn a timeout. Just to say the five years and I've seen teams on third, and long do it third and sixteen the burn the time out instead of taking third and twenty one so I would imagine this might be a smart idea, and it's just fifteen or twenty years ahead of its time, because teams figured out that I don't think the delay of game penalties a huge deal, but offenses seem seem to tree like it is they do, and yeah I do I like the idea theoretically, but I mean obviously it's so difficult to wrap your head around right now. Considering how often teams are getting plays off in the in the last. Two or three seconds of the play clock, and and how that would alter things, and how it'd be throwing a fit, because that slight delay that they always have where they say the back judge has to see Zeros on the clock, and then back and see The ball snapped etcetera etcetera. in. The League, the UPTEMPO offenses which I'm guessing. They do like them enough that they'd want to. Incentivize them, but if you did this, you would really incentivize faster play faster tempo of play teams with dense starts snapping the ball. There'd be coaches at tell their qb at two seconds is a breakoff point. You do not go under two seconds. Philip rivers you love to get down two point two seconds, 'cause you do so many gyrations and adjustments. Even you have to snap the ball two seconds. John Deere CEELO. It'd be our last one because this really is in our wheelhouse. Johnson disil- as a change I would like see to overtime procedure. Instead of having a coin toss at the end of the fourth quarter, just switched the field and continue play from the point where the fourth quarter ended I think it changes the the end of game strategy in a good way and this way everything is decided on the field and eliminates the randomness of the overtime coin. Toss I. Do want to start by saying. Did you propose this at all last year Andy? Know what I propose me see. Him Clinton remember your terrible proposal. If you want to run that down, it was not a terrible proposal, and I'm yet to find anyone that can refute why. It's not better than the coin toss. This guy's a little hole jaundice. Overtime procedure instead of having a coin, toss just switched to feeling. Continue to play from the point where the fourth quarter ended. So I mean I'm not sure how that's different, and maybe I'm not understanding it. I'm not sure that's different from just continuing the game yet. That's basically what it is well so that that's that's not I mean look at smart. We're even having the conversation, so I'm not saying this is whoever sent this as dumb John Sylla's not a dumb guy, but that takes away though the end of the game. Why even hurry in a two minute offense in? Is If the if the. What am I missing on its question because it takes away. The essence of the clock then. We'll know you're still. If you win the game and regulation, you still win the game. It's not mandatory overtime. It's only tied. Yeah, what's the incentive for? Two minutes left. The Games tied at twenty four. Yeah, were starting at our old twenty-five got seventy five yards to go. You know maybe field goal range shorter. What's our if if we know that it's going to overtime and they're just continuing where we are. What's our incentive for going up tempo there? There is no incentive unless you want to close out the game before you have to give the ball back to the side and. Have Them. Have a chance to. It wouldn't be so. Anything if it'd be the exact opposite of that, they would just. The incentive would be to go slow. The clocks going to run out, but you're GONNA have the ball right where you would have anyway, but it wouldn't be son death. I guess it would incentivize because you do want to score I that. That's a it's A. It's a bad idea, but it's a good topic now. Okay, we'll think of it this way. If you were within easy scoring range, you just go and try and score like wd score points at the end of regulation. Just go score on the game, but we're talking about unintended consequences a second ago. How often do team start to minute drives in the Games timing? That's where most of this is. You would see a lot of two minute drives it. Just don't get treated like that anymore. But you'd have to get the ball, but you wouldn't do sudden death. You'd have to give the ball back to them at some point correct. Me If you score touchdown, you don't. This is what you'd say. No, no this. This is what you say in this scenario. This is how I do it, so you go to overtime and you just pick up where the fourth quarter ended. and. It's just ten minutes. You just play a ten minute period, and if you have the ball three times in that ten minute period, and you score a bunch touchdowns. That's you're GONNA win. The game in has the ball when you start the WHO you pick up. The fourth quarter ended the team that had the bulb into deregulation still has the ball yet at the same spot. Yes, that's just eliminates the clock. All you're doing is taken away the fourth quarter clock. You're not though you can go and score points I mean what a few. What if you get stopped? What if you're the first thing that has the ball? What if you had the ball? You, just you know, took a touchback off a kick off, and you go anywhere, and you're just putting it back. You're still you're still removing the temple nature of the last drive of the game. Yes, I think that's a possibility but I. don't think that's I. Don't think that's so bad to have bad. That would overtime, so the best moments in football come out of two minute drills a lot of them. I still think if you if you think you can put points on the board on that last drive I. Think you just going? All right here's a better idea. It's my idea, yeah, the better idea is, and you're GonNa I. Think People Are GonNa. Be surprised I'm saying it because I. Don't I'm not a big stats guy. Let's remember though we're the the the the status quo right now is a coin. Toss if the coin toss. Word invented today. If they said Hey, whatever we're doing over time, we have a new hot idealist. Just flip a coin. Test the worse stupidest dumbest idea we've ever heard. What are you talking about so? Bad status quo that we're competing against. It's not a perfect idea we're looking for. It's an improvement. My idea is a team with the most total yards at the end of regulation gets first possession now. There's I think you can add formula where interception return yards count as your own total yards. Eight yards gained with the fall in your hand, each team which team moved the ball, the most of the ball in their hand, so kick return yards added up fumble return yards added up all offensive yards. Who has the most at the end and that's who gets the ball I. It's not any better than it was eighteen months ago. When you when I pitched it, but I will say the one thing I like about that is I love the thought of like the garbage time drive at the end of the first half in the team, trying to pick up that that extra twenty five yards or whatever it is. Those means something now those. Those do I. I think that's a nice unintended consequence of this, but No I look I rethought I i. You know I wanNA. Do Sort of college type of thing where you all make. Can Add one more unintended consequences. Yeah, on that the other one is. Let's say you one hundred yards behind your opponent, and it's games tied, and you're twenty five, so you only have seventy five possible yards to gain late in the game that could change the way you go about things and strategize. If you know you're not getting possession, I or you know you, you might get possession I i. I think it could change end of game strategy and a good way 'cause they're still be o'clock. Okay. Still doesn't do a whole lot for me. All right good Beto usually college with to me. That turns a conversation off. Just saying the Word College. No, no overtime so bad, not college style where you know. He started the twenty five, but taller style in that both teams get even possessions and I do realize it. It's too much an advantage for the team that gets the ball second. 'cause you, you know how many points you need to score, so that turns into a four down situation or turned into we just. Just need a field goal or whatever it is I think it's too big edge for the team that gets the most second, but if you do it this way with with you know, just add a ten minute quarter I guess that's not a quarter, but a ten minute period to the end of the Game I. think that I think that makes a Lotta sense and I don't mind the fact that some teams might feel less urgency score at the end of regulation in that scenario because they're probably not gonNA. Put me great with the ball when they get it in overtime anyway if you had that little confidence in your offense. The other thing I would do actually like this idea more than the total yards idea and this is an idea had several years ago so another great one by me. Your is give it to the home team. First possession goes the whole team automatically and be the reason for that. There's two for one this year. I think that's could be especially important, because if there's no fans than the home. Advantage is diminished, so we're trying to re. Ignite, some home, field advantage, but bigger than that. They've expanded the playoffs seven teams in each conference so essentially, the value of a playoff spot has been watered down just a little bit to offset that. You need to make the value of a seed more important. What seat are you in the playoffs? That has to become more important than if the value of playoff spot in general gets watered down, we want. We still want to have something on the line and all these sixteen week sixteen week seventeen games home team. If you get home field in the playoffs. Playoffs if you have a home playoff game, and you get first possession on overtime. That's a huge advantage. Potentially teams would really play hard for the Homefield of inch. They play hard to win their division, not that they're not now I guess, but in that just play hard, but you want to make it more impactful more meaningful. The seeds have to mean more. Andy. What I actually like that idea? Thank you! I pitched it to Adam Dourson. It's treated five years ago. He hated it hated the idea and see I I I think the one thing that complicates is the fact that you know. Division winners are getting home game so okay. Now you have the the nine and seven division champion, hosting the twelve and four wildcard team, and do they deserve even more advantage, but if I, if we could truly, I would correct, I would love to see that corrected in just flip it around it the team with the better record. Gets home game. In wildcard round, regardless of who wins the division I still. I still seed it by division winners, so the top four seeds go to the top division winners, but I would flip the homefield if the say the fair who plays now at the two seed in the sevens. I wouldn't be that one. Let's say the four seed in the five seed. Has a worse record than the five seed. I'd like to see the five, so you get the home field even if that's a wildcard team, not a division when he team. The problem is I fear that that would just lead to the eventual. Eradication of divisions. The do what the NBA's talking about. Let's just make it one. One Big Tournament for the League rather than Eastern, conference, Western Conference which I hate that I think it's A. Dangerous unintended consequences idea. Do. You know the best way to do. All this would be though. To expansion teams. Nope, over right there. It's over no. Fan The league do not expelled expansion of one team in Boise one team in Hartford Connecticut. and. So now you have seventeen per conference eliminate divisions. Everyone just plays round robin. Within your conference Oh no AFC. NFC Crossover until the super. Bowl, The shows gone off the rails at this point. I would that not blow your mind if you had not seen. Whatever! patriots. Ever, until they met in the Super Bowl with that, not just absolutely be awesome. And I don't think so. Giants Jet Super Bowl this year. Wouldn't it be better if the teams had never played before? No. No. It wouldn't how we have, it now is great. I love the way thirty two teams balanced schedules as much as you can I liked the setup now I will say one thing that occurred to me the other day about expansion which there. No one's talking about that in the NFL right now fortunately. Some, that's just selfish said it's hard enough to keep up with thirty two teams I. I don't think I could do I. Mean I'd missed some film on those thirty. Three thirty, four, thirty, five thirty six teams. Population those gone up so if the League doesn't expand in the population goes up. It becomes harder than to get the NFL. Yeah, so maybe expansions, not the worst I've met you. Leagues expand at a slower rate than population increases over the long haul. It's still becomes unwieldy at some point though. It does. Look. I liked I liked the thirty four team I like the. Separating the conferences entirely. And get even scheduled. It's equitable. Ruin plays the same sixteen teams within the conference. So you get a true balance scheduling each conference. You're coming around on it. No. No. I'm not coming around. I will not come around on it because I liked the geographical nature divisions and the structure in the south of League so. I'm not coming around on it for the simple reason that I like it the way it is more what I'm pausing about right now is I'm trying to think if there's a logical answer racking just beat you with sheer rationale. Emotion of liking the League how it is trying to beat you with my brain, instead of my heart here he can. I found I, found a right answer and look. I can see your face I saw you lit up as I as I ran down that I mean it was the complete opposite of when Carter had that two part question earlier in the show. You're absolutely loving. My equitable scheduling, one hundred percent equitable. Think. They do a great job now with the schedule as it is I love. The League set up eight eight divisions forty I. Like it a lot. We will We'll get into this other time, but I think we're going to call it for now. Andy once again. Thanks for joining us. Just goodbye for now I assume Yup. I appreciate it. Thanks Gary. M QB Monday morning NFL. podcast is me Gary gramling special. Thanks once again to Android for joining me on this one. We are produced by Shelby Royston. S is executive producer of podcasts. Scott Brody Ben Eagles director of editorial projects and product Mark Arabia is a meredith editor of the. And even when is the founder of the? NFL podcast keep up with our entire line of the podcast five days a week by subscribing to the NFL podcast for free on apple, podcast and Meyer there, please do us a favor and leave a rating and review. It really does help. 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Texans Not Expect To Make Moves, AJ Hinch in Detroit, Free Agency in Baseball Begins, Wild Week in College Football

The Sean Salisbury Show

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Texans Not Expect To Make Moves, AJ Hinch in Detroit, Free Agency in Baseball Begins, Wild Week in College Football

"When we got puerto crenshaw very. This is the sean salisbury show. Well morning guys morning guys. I'm lovely but didn't watch. The texans lose. Yesterday is great. Dan football about the texans saturday morning. Sunday morning now. Monday without the taxes. Although we'll kick back in about what they gotta do to get themselves back on track. One team came closer to them. Yesterday and another team moved farther away. Meaning the indianapolis colts tennessee titans. Cincinnati looks good man. Cincinnati looks good. And who's the other team that division. Why am i missing steelers. How the steelers. Don't play in the techs. They're going to be playing the texans next week. Sounds like without gardner minzhu. I mike glennon or some guy. I've never heard of so. Guess what that means the tech. Yeah to and six. You gotta love it right. Yeah so i'm i'm all for it to about his first start over the weekend. Would you guys sake means all right right off they want. He looked confused a lot and a little bit. Put it this way. He didn't do anything too stupid. Now it was right around fifty percent completion but he what less than one hundred yards. Their defense was lights out yesterday. Played really really good He did enough to win. But he's got an was a very auspice. Start with a fumble plan. Then he fit one in on a little slant route down by the goal line he he did a nice job Say nice job to get through it. That's he got a lot to learn because there was times it didn't look to me like playing it. It didn't look like to me like he was real decisive. He felt put it this. It looked to me like when he played it alabama. He felt pretty good about his team and their chances to win. And that's okay. That's what you saw from him. Yesterday is probably a normal rookie. Start not what you see from like mahomes in those guys joe burrow. That's exactly right. That's normal checking touchdowns all good player. Good a good player. Incredible job by the broncos. Hang in there yesterday but you know to it was it was a good start for him because regardless it's a win and that's how you get out of there and make you builds. The statistics. Put it this way. He could have bought pretty statistics statistics if they'd lost squat patriots lose foreign role for the first time in about a million years. It seems and and Obviously the jets got beat by kansas city. Buffalo wins and the dolphins are now sitting in second place with a four three record in and good for to their top. five picks dill from. The texans appears that way. Does he stopped in one of the reasons that they started to was to see what they had in case. That's top five. Pick if they need to go. Get a quarterback shirt and right. Now that's still elaine. The jury is still out. It's still play. I mean whenever your defense scores a touchdown and you get a special teams touchdown your rookie. Qb should win but it got more interesting. You think in that game but they held on and got that win. Yep there's no question about it so it was It was really an impressive that he was able to just stand. But miami's been impressive considering they're not supposed to be very good yet so was a good start for him over the week at texas a and m. obviously which is hard for me to fathom the texas am has final four in their in their sights. Man another win until they play out early. Point out there now. Yeah we've had this discussion with aggie friends. I feel like a m and georgia have a tougher shot at getting the foresee compared to a undefeated wisconsin or even state. I think in. That's just because they've already played alabama and got smoke pretty good but eight him still does look like a top five top fourteen. They could definitely get themselves in the conversation. The question is is that. Does the committee take who from the west instead of taking one from the west. One for the east since you always been that way. It's one from the west one for the taken to sec teams. Today's for tonight's match this week this week is measuring between florida. And georgia actually is going to decide. Who probably wins. Sec's and that could be the four seat. Yeah that's gonna be really interesting to see how that comes down and at this is always a great game coming up in florida and georgia and georgia has their sights as the florida on the final for big brawl. This weekend to which was ugly and dan mullen great weekend right. He did a lot of football this weekend. It sure was wasn't the unbelievable punch to the head. In the saints bears saints bears game which was brutal that there was some deep going on there. Why are you guys still can't understand it punching each other with helmets on your head. Well that's a guy who just zoo just went haywire. He lost that. That's a deeper remember. They both was georgia. One was florida as well at earlier in the game. If you remember it put his finger in another guy's face The defensive back and that was that wasn't one that some guys just talking trash get back somehow. Some way son was deeper than that. There is a video from. I believe it was a possession before of the db pulling off two receivers mouthpiece so the guy tried to do it again. Miss just punched him in the head. Yep it was It was it was ugly to say the least but And it looked. It looked horrible on tv. Although db's like stood there like taking what's going on exactly So there's there's that You know there's so much stuff. Trevor lawrence will not play against notre dame. Just giving you a plethora. Thanks cover today. George springer obviously has tell What november eleventh guide. Which you know what he's going to say and then decline become a free agent and as i think the i think he's going i don't think he will but i think that a lot of these guys will end up taking that one year deal got the qualifying offer cash. I mean i'll tell you what the guys who've jettisoned already in free agency. That shouldn't be there. Oh i know team trevor. Bauer man. You don't expect those castro will at sherman doesn't take it. He's getting bad advice. I would understand. I mean i get that it just seems so. I can't fathom that. George is gonna even consider taking that can't even fathom it. It's all about the play. And the risk game. Yeah are are you willing to. Is he willing to wade out because he's not going to have a job he's getting less than eighteen million anywhere else. There's no frigging beaches. The question of do you want to wait until the end of february. Because i think he's going to sit until the end of february. He's got my main like his bank accounts. Dry he can he can. He'll be fine. I'm just. I'm just wondering who will who will do that. Who's willing to sit as long as it takes. Because i think that this market is gonna sit. And nothing's going to happen for months. But i i ve wishful thinking for us to think that springer's taken that to come back here no. I don't think he's taking back here. I just think that it's not absolute guarantee that every player is declining. This qualifying offer. It's just it's eighteen point nine million for market. that's weird. yeah. I think brantley always one team. That says we ain't your market game. I'm a goal overpay. Or what have you for a guy that i really really want. Because we'll find. Because i got news story about professional sports. They are going to get through this. They just are because next year when we open seasons in baseball and basketball and football could be some hot tickets and they're going to be look packed. People are going to feel like. I can't believe i get to go. i'm just. They are going to be packed. I don't know about tv ratings. But i can tell you right now. In las vegas for the raiders here in houston in pittsburgh in new england. They're all showing up and they were gonna walk through the gates and they're gonna they're gonna loaded up. This sports is going to make their money back because well they just they got five hundred million dollar salaries to pay then so they are going to be loaded Loaded up and get a take back to trevor lawrence. This is going to be interesting. He your guy will. You was gonna be your guide. Alabama played a good football game. Told you guys boston college. We're going to hang around in shock. They were going to hang around at first half was not head could not be comfortable. Here comes now well. If boston college plays decent after that big lead they should win this football game and the tribute to typical dabble team. Finding a way to get it done now we got will to date will be the game of the year. Notre dame four clemson alabama closed the gap With the voters you conclusions. That's exactly right. And now they go to south bend and obviously even on the road clemson. It'll be the favourite. This'll be. This is probably now with trevor lawrence out less than touchdown But i still think clemson's a favourite obviously the number one team but even with a freshman quarterback he played was physical strong. He was really good. He looks bigger than everyone's still like he was in high school. How my gosh this game are they still getting in. That's my question. Because i said at this we talking to some people. It's like if they ain't have lose skin boss college still going to get in trevor lawrence. Didn't play with the committee as long as they stay within striking distance within the. Let's say they lose by field goal to buzzer and the they're in the top five Going forward. I believe they will get in because whether it's for lifetime achievement award or the still the belief that there are they didn't have their best player and we'll get 'cause i can tell you that he can't win the heisman trophy now. No unfortunate for him because he was gonna win it. If it gave it stayed like this. He can't win the heisman trophy now. Because you can't give it to somebody who only which puts mack jones squarely at the top of the list. He's one of them. There's some really good player in the running back for clemson. As a matter of fact he may end up getting more votes. because lawrence can't play you can't give a high unless it's numbers were so gotti and everybody else was average. You can't miss two games when the heisman trophy so unfortunately for him covid nineteen even if he feels great which dabbles said he does even if he feels great. You can't you can't give him the heisman trophy. After to miss two games in a season especially like this no matter how good he plays. You just can't give it to him so clemson just a makeup. If they do lose notre dame they would get to play them as e. shoe game so that would get them back in easily. I think if they lost a boston college and then loss to notre dame law team yeah and people were a little concerned about the way. Boston college kept a close. Even boston. college is foreign to going in your right if they lose one game and get in playing in the conference championship and win. They're going there. Is that what you say. You said the boston college and notre dame beats them the two loss team on a season like this. They're out because notre dame would be in. Obviously one of those florida georgia team type of bien. It unless am confined a way to do their thing. And then we obviously know that alabama. And who am i. Leaving out. State are going to be in ohio state. Wins again so this is. It's going to be fun to watch but am Am am ems just kind of hanging around. We're not talking about a much kind of hanging around and playing pretty damn good for by much to discuss including the fact that -buster only it was hinch all along right in his spot. Right is the name. Detroit yeah and there's a chance that cora's and play where we'll discuss next sports. Talk seven ninety. Welcome in on a monday morning and much to discuss today. The houston sports world. Yeah sean salisbury knows how to play the game because he really played the game. Yeah former pro. Qb right here. He actually has it on his name tag former pro cutie right here back to on on sports talk seven. Ninety much to discuss baseball manager will hear what. Aj hands to say about his gonna make me sad again just a reminder just watched all forty minutes of live this mike. D'antoni obviously is going to work with steve nash Tom herman the nobody wants to hear the work in progress. I'm sure texas fans likely. Hear that phrase right. That's where you need to hear when you're um you know yeah. Texas back works progress. You go but a lot of of Think they'd beat. Look they beat oklahoma state team that they probably didn't nobody thought they'd beat them back and forth hell of a football game to watch too so good for them. We'll see if the work in progress gets them to the work. You know to the point where we're talking about texas is if they are dominant football team again. I think that's what people wanna hear via. Didn't watch the steelers and baltimore. Ravens game that was classic great football game but now with ronnie stanley out after he signs the extension his ankles got him out for the year. Lamar turn the ball over. You made him make some throws from places he didn't wanna make them from and ended up. Steelers have proved again why they're all around on both sides of the ball still the best team in football and watching that game lamarcus. You could see his gifts you know you can see what makes him. Such a great quarterback number also could see what he loves times. There's no question. Oh he's a phenomenal skill. Set there's no doubt and he'll make some. The he threw a touchdown pass under arrest the left coast where he was getting pressure and the ball came out so quick when he recognizes that release. Boom ball was up before you blinked. And then there's times they will force throw like at the end there. He probably needed to buy time to to make something happen. That a forcible triple coverage to give you guy a chance because he's so athletic so there's growing pains but this kid is a phenomenal talent and right now. I'm telling you what pittsburgh can give kansas city all that can handle. I'm just telling you they can. Because their defense bins playing good. Yes everything is. They are machine rothlisburger. He just like was waived his ability to throw the football. I mean sometimes you look. It's looks so awkward. Neil techies labor and they'll make throw tam. What a great throw any made any makes a bunch of those this did. That's we may be headed nine. It's a long way to go but at some point. If we're headed for that in january gonna be one hell of a watch because if you watch mahomes yes i was joking. I did a video this weekend. for a company. I'm a site and it was. Just i said well you know this is type game home for five thousand five hundred yards. I said i might be a little overboard while he threw for like. What four twenty and five touchdowns yeah. So he's he's about to completions of those long balls away from being fished. I figured it'd be a big game but you know i didn't even think he'd last into the fourth quarter because they'd be up so much right and he didn't play the last eight minutes or six whenever it was because he played but i mean he's capable that we we are wherever headed for that collision course. It looks take it. Looks like we are because those two teams. I mean the thing. He gets rothlisberger for the last year and a half two years was anytime he played on the road. He seemed like a different quarterback outside. Like cleveland and cincinnati. Even said hey. He says this the least favourite stadium so he got rid of those ghosts right. There is demons we like playing there. Who does they beat your brains in fans or no fans fans and fans of baltimore. Ravens always hitching knock. It's always physical right and so it was. We may be headed for that in seattle completely manhandled physically the forty niners yesterday. So that's a. That's another good team losing yesterday. The packers listened to the viking. Yes well seem so casual coming out of the locker room. we had. It was almost as if they believe that everybody was saying they were plant fellow. They're playing the texans again and they were but they didn't do enough right. hey You have to actually play right. They looked like the team that was a cross between their game against this team at times and their game against tampa was somewhere in between so there were flashes of wolf. Are they good. And then there's like do they realize their planet professional football team and dalvin cook humiliated them yesterday. Just makes you feel worse about the texans playing the week before because you couldn't run the ball worth crap against them. The vikings just put what one sixty something for three scores. Oh okay good about david. Johnson running the ball again. And don't we have tampa tonight temperature's giants site so we'll gonna learn much about tampa bay beat down to the giants. We're not going to tune in dry game. If we have anything else going on in our life. I have to see how much they put up. And then you can turn probably a life if you're watching the game but i can tell you this watching the nfc yesterday validated to me. The saints hung in there and played good that if tampa's plan their best they're the best team in the nfc. They just are so we. We got much discuss guys about the this texans and one thing that that they're supposed to be a team that's got a lot of people people want. They traded a guy on friday. I don't even know who he is. Yeah hey least trade. We'll they got him off. I think the practice squad ask. Somebody wanted him conditional sale able to give a conditional seventh for now i hope the seventh graders spectacular and phenomenal and all that. But i probably wouldn't count on it being a three years. Now that you've ever remembered that this trade was made by if it is right but i'm talking about significant of and i guess when i say i've never heard of the guy i don't even like i said off the practice i'd never literally never heard right so you you have a situation where the texans between now and tomorrow at three o'clock our time there's had to be somebody to call in. If the texans are so stubborn that they say no. I'm not taking a third round. Pick for for willfuller will be stupid from them for being a and i understand why other teams would come in and say i'll give you a feth to see if they're dumb enough to take it right so i would not give players away. It's just that this is one in sixteen. That'll win next week. Because this coming week because they're playing jacksonville and then they've got to stay in the division. You're now going to get a more focused tennessee team after the cincinnati started fast. It's going to be around. I was actually surprised. By how indiana. I actually thought detroit could beat indianapolis the way they went back to looking like detroit. Indianapolis played like we expect them to play when they got philip rivers. Yeah their defense is good rivers. Made some incredible throws but when you let him set his feet guys a hell of a player still and they also had their running backs. Each back did something for them. And that's they need that and right now it's okay to use two and three guys and there's no matter of fact. A lot of teams are having success with multiple runners in different cities. Anyway so i just. I'm looking at the text. And i'm saying all right if you're stand pat between now and then and don't make a significant trade. They're actually looking in the face and telling you that we believe this. You listen to all the people. That are connected. These things have turned into all the pregame shows yesterday to hear the insider people and everyone of them kept pointing out that the ravens the packers. The browns like every team that you would expect has called texans about their receivers whether it be willful or brandin cooks and then surprisingly sounds like they're getting a lot of people calling about whitney mercilus on the defensive side as the he's become the we everybody talks about what because he's their best player. Mercilus has become the the what sort. I'm looking for the say hot commodity. But he's become the one everybody's talks out of the most likely right. Obviously you so. If you're able to get something for these guys you needed to do it. At least one of the receivers has i can understand. Maybe keeping them one of them because you will need to keep them want to get rid of all. Yeah but i'm okay part with to barbara. So they don't trade at least at least one of brandin cooks willful. I think they're stupid. Plan something and if you wanna give in if you wanna trade mercilus let's say throughout all this you get a five or six and a third. Yeah know can't imagine getting anything better than a five for kenny stills. I can't imagine anything. Better than a five whitney mercilus honestly right okay right so if you get to like i said five or six or two and a third and maybe you can milk a second out of a desperate really desperate team for will fuller okay and when i am not saying that. He's not a good player but people just don't give assets away and a second round picks they said okay now least. You've gathered something if you were to get to five right. Let's just say for fun. You did maybe a package that and get an a fourth and a player at some point in time this. I don't i don't know but people love this stuff. They love these assets. It's weird because you think how can an asset a fifth round pick. Beat better than whitney mercilus. That that's what i tell my soul. Winning mercilus has got a cap hit over fourteen million dollars to the next two years. He's over the age of thirty and this team stinks. hang on. that's how i say. invalid it. The cash doesn't match the performance. I mean i. It just doesn't extension when we'd love whitney mercilus. Bright with the extension was questionable. When it happened right. And so i i remember it three year when the super bowl was here. He just come off a really good season. Yeah man he needs to get paid and then it goes along. And it's like th- there hasn't been that explosion sense what i'm talking about dominant. He never got back to that right. We think he's a good player. Bud hattie have been that guy. The last two years you'd get far more than v for you'd be sitting at a third round pick more than likely with that money attached to it so there. There's much to do and we'll discuss the texans about. They're just either. They're being extremely. We're not giving players away. Screw it will be wanna six. We'll deal with it. And i'll see what the next. Gm head coach or teams are just absurd with their lack of serious offer. I also think it is probably not getting great offers because of how bad they've done in trades over the last year and obviously the guy who was doing them isn't here but the whole officer whole front office was part of the discussion of hayes. Should we trade this for this. And they think they can convince them that they can get these assets for very little. I also think that their gun shy. Because they're afraid of the fallout if it's a bad trade because they've well gun shy of at all i do is make bad trades. They should know what this is like right. So maybe it'll be a good. We'll find out sports. That doesn't look like jj's going anywhere though right now although he might want to be in pittsburgh because well that pretty good in his brother's pretty good and his other brothers pretty good and pittsburgh's got a chance to win the whole thing this year. Sports talk seven hundred the most refreshing way to start your day. Shower shave and sean. They're done courtesy. Flushes always appreciated. Thank god thank the good lord. Thank you from the management team here at sports. Talk seven. ninety. Back to sean salisbury question. Just one question pie one question. This is the big one loving the big question of the day. On the sean salisbury. Show all right the big when it comes down to this. I don't know if it's wishful thinking or if you just wanna keep everybody because well we think. The offense aside from tunsil upfront. The offensive line hasn't been very good this year. And then you got wide receivers. That have been the talk. Will any of them move and sound like you want. Listen they they can tell the football and they've got reason to want to keep them. But if you want assets. That and whitney mercilus. Jj water the once. You got a man and a couple of defensive players on defense. Listen if you're gonna finish at the bottom on the defense he might as well get rid of somebody that can get you an asset. Because one of them's not just you're you're probably not building around. Jj anymore because where he's at in his career although he still your best defensive player you've got to find something to build and as a fifth round draft picks going to give you build around. No money may free up somebody who can go get the money because right now. They're sitting seven million dollars over the calf next season right so the big one is simple. Who goes i will fuller brandin cooks has. It's pretty simple because the truth matter is those are the two that are get you the assets in turn offense around on defensive Mercilus of guys that you would think about trading and it doesn't appear that. Jj watched the guy were mercilus. Seems like it's become the focus or the focal point for somebody trying to get a little more edge and maybe with other major pass rushes around him he becomes even more productive will be said when you don't get to see the guitar anymore. Yeah it's a heartbreaking. Because there's nothing i like seeing more than they are good art hair guitar steve. There's dash wrong. It's like hitting a home run when you're down twelve and slow and slow jog and stare at people down. I mean you're the team that's got one. Yeah yeah hey just like nothing better than a two yard. Quarterback sneak in the middle of the field. The middle of the first quarter and celebrate like. Well i point that yeah. That's what should happen myself on the damn thing. Yeah it's it's it's not No i'm not a big air guitar guy sixteen. I'm not a beginner guitar. On one hundred seven not okay. Sorry i like good celebrations but you should. Those probably need to stay in when you're wanted six that's just me. I understand enthusiastic. When you're playing well and getting make a big school but i would imagine you probably need to make a bunch of big plays as a team and then we can go on a six game roll. We'll start celebrating fair enough. Yeah i'm with you start celebrate well so the big ones up cooks or fuller at sports seven ninety our twitter page re tweet it and you guys do the same which one the obvious choice would probably be neither one because more than likely it appears somehow now because a protocol. They wouldn't play this week right. They've got no chance point wherever they go. So we'll see if that happens in if it's wishful thinking or if it's this team's just decide that these four receivers give them the best chance to win and they'll get it and then they'll keep it going because they're passing offense with watson is really good really good. My guess is they're not very good anywhere else. I guess today is going to be brandin. Cooks fair enough. I would second that for you. I don't have problem with that. So tomorrow's election day is voted. I voted first day of our early voting. Just got my voting in as well. We'll thirty one thirty one. Let's hope that maybe this doesn't break out tomorrow. Did he. city. This half is one to just refuses dan because missouri and florida players. Kind of mixing it up a little bit now. Now we got going on. Now the pitches are out there. The middle infield and it is a real donnybrook increased. People kicked out of his game just flying and this is not seen on an untimely down to the first half. Looks like a hockey game broke. Dick donnybrook nanny. Yes somebody calls the big big old body. I tell you that's a glove type. Fight out here. The one thousand nine hundred eighty six florida missouri. We're going to fight going. I love hopefully though donnie brooks out to regardless of what happens you think that there probably will be a few few what donnybrook i don't know about you but i don't know if you heard this but this country is kind of in a spot where each side hates each other. Everyone's crazy just like missouri and florida. Apparently thank you see. I mean people are not hurricane. Comes people start boarding up funerals and warned things up in the country plywood in their doors and windows all over the place. As if a hurricane's coming my ass is going to be sitting at home watching a movie. Eaten french dead to the world. Turn off my phone. Turn off everything that phone. It'll be like this face on the nightstand near the tv. Look i refuse to look at social media tomorrow. So if you're trying to reach very to ask me to do anything. Or say hey. Great style won't be responding. I try to respond as often as i can. There will be no response. But i i got come clean. Now i prob- there's a good chance that it'll be around to and i'll have to get up an hour and twenty minutes later you'll why don't die will also watch the whole thing. Yeah that stupid. But it's okay. We don't have sports. If you wanna watch you know why that i do know why i mean i guess we all have an interest in how this thing goes with all the banter. Put it this way especially the last two years but the last four years just the way people on both sides of responded regarded. I'm not talking about who have responded to each other over this. I gotta see how this thing ends continues right i. That's just me i. i can't do it anymore. I can't news coverage beatdown is such a beatdown. Yeah it is and it's loud rather watch crazy rich. Asians nineteen million. Yeah yeah we haven't had a whole lot of. I don't know i mean it. Just that the anger all array round. So i'll tune in and watch just because well. That's what i do when an election comes about. I do it for six. I've been doing it since. I was old enough to vote right since you pay when you're how great okay. I'm you know. I got baseball practice or baskin football practice. But once you start paying your bills gap you start watching so i will. Maybe it's just for the you know we like. Oh my gosh. She knows that. I'm watching and listening to how everybody's candidates the best right and there's no shot and then we're done we're gonna win the state and then seeing just it's crazy but i'll probably tune in so i can't wait till it's over them. Go ahead and get that different media outlets report. Different things different stake you. Think yeah reporting on the state of florida's gonna be wild is always just a hunch you actually think that there's a chain. I think one network may report something and other doesn't that's just my guess could happen. I'll watch for those type of things. Yeah how the different coverages. That's the only way i'd want so you think there's a chance that the florida missouri game breaks out at some point tomorrow night our country's full of idiots so yeah just like just like dan mullen his idiots down there in florida. Unbelievable damn nolan's batman though he's a he's trying to do it for good. He's trying to serve justice. I don't know what he's doing. He thinks he's going to win. Recruiting or something this past week. He's had two weeks whatever it is where he he's gotten when the reason i got covid. And then he said it's nothing and then he's like marginalizing people and then said the same should be fooled. They shouldn't be voting because they need to practice and he's out there getting a hell of a run for ab galant. I it's been a hell of a couple of week run for dan. Mullen coach offense sportstalk seven di so the big what is up sports seven ninety dot com up next will mr cora we know hinch is working again is going to have a job. And what would it be. We're going to listen to it because there's only one openings right now listen to baseball. Insider tells us sportstalk seven ninety new level level track. Sportstalk seven ninety. All the red sox job is open. We're gonna hear what. Aj hinch had to say about his job in detroit and what buster only espn baseball insider had to say about aj. Hinch getting the gig. But i buster only on who. The red sox may hire and his alexander chorus. he would. I did there my name. Yes alexander jose. Cora would be as full shouldn't have looked up is full of it. Thank you for doing was alexander. Alex or alexander is in play. Well with the red sox. Another manager lost his job because of the science scandal. Alex cora the red sox. It's not clear whether or not they're going to bring him back. Ownership is told hind bloomed ahead of baseball operations that he has full authority to pick the guy that he wants. And he's going to arrange of interviews and told he's open-minded hoping to bring quarterback that blew off that people wondered you know wire the the red sox interviewing this guy when they've just fired him the guy that's doing the hiring bloom like they mentioned there who came from the tampa bay. Rays did not have anything to do with farming outscore right. So here's the reason why he's new. He's not when cora would they just let And we all new radically was an term status any leeway right. Yes it wasn't wasn't gonna matter. Yeah all right. Well here's the buster only had to say about. Aj hinch actually excited to hear this little egg on his face. Getting this gig in detroit. Some of the candidates actually believe now that hinch was the guy that the tigers wanted all along because other candidates have been brought in. They'd been interviewed. They've been told they might be brought back to detroit for another round but then yesterday after hints his suspension had been served and the tigers brought him in an interview. The calls went out. You know what we picked our guy. You can understand it from the tigers perspective given how well had bandaids those astros teams as they develop into the world series champion. I mean mister high and mighty moral police over there who just spews everything that he can towards the astra suddenly is. Oh you can understand why he get. Why aren't you going after him do. There's your chance yet. I mean judging by how he approached it wouldn't he. Wouldn't you expect him to say horrible decision by detroit. Yeah but again. It's it's just throwing the the last house and at the end of the day. None of them care is they suspended him. If we don't accept people or allow people back in after they serve their suspension. If someone does something wrong in baseball ever you're basically saying they should be kicked out of the league forever. Yeah my whole thing if it's not suspension and put the word banning on it and if we can't it's amazing how we're in a live where we beg people to refer you know remorse and making a mistake in in serving their time and then coming back and why do we like comebacks if we don't want an opportunity to have comeback if they say the suspension is this yeah and you serve your suspension and you've cleared your name and when i say clear your name you can have listen. It's not my right to worry about what somebody else thinks about me right. And it's not age business to worry about if somebody in pittsburgh doesn't like him okay and his message on friday when i did listeners. Press conferences clear that he's gonna tell his players now in detroit. That part of stories mice store is now yours. That's exactly right. And that's a that's a fact and he'll deal with it anybody who's been through anything you know how to take care of learn from it and and come out of it and keep moving forward and try to try to do better and that's what. Aj hinch is going to do. And that's what we all do because any way shape or form and i. i don't understand in society. We love second chances. And we want people second chances to whether it's rehab drug guy whether it's overcome a suspension whether whatever it is to get a second chance to do it after a mistake made a mistake. Serve your time out of baseball. No pay and then somebody decided this is a good manager and i believe he understands the mistake he made. Let's move on. Here's what aj hinch had to say. And it's about a buck so let's listen to this whole thing. Aj hinch addresses after number two got after the cheating scandal. And here's what he had to say as odd reflected back and learn and grow and grow and and ultimately decompress from From something that was very wrong. And as i told mr eligible both you know. That's that's my. That's part of my story It's not the tiger's story and i understand the question and i understand How wrong it was. And i'm sorry for that. I've said that before. I'll say it again. I'll continue to say it I'll never forget the feeling that i've had throughout the past years i've navigated this with my family But it's you quickly get you know. Get to the to the exciting time of of getting back and leading a group of men again and establishing what what tigers baseball is going to be all about. I'm sorry that today. Has that has to be a topic. And i understand why because this is such an exciting day for me and such an exciting day for the tigers but they're real conversations when you get into these these positions and And i certainly you know i i. I talked to both of these men. In many other people in the organization throughout the process they were very thorough and ultimately we all arrived at a at a partnership that we feel like is gonna take tiger baseball into into winning ways and aj also discuss. You know you always. I always wondered about this if other players reach out. And you know private texting. Or what have you. And i know that's private conversation between the guy and a former player. But here's what he said about justin. Verlander yeah i did so. Jv and i developed a great relationship. He's he's an all timer hall of famer incredible competitor incredible experiences together And he sent me a message this morning. You know raving about what. What detroit is like when When the when the team is winning and there's no place like it he said it's it's it's an incredible place of of a loyal fan base that that wants baseball. Played the right way they want. Baseball played a winning way And they they have a deep rooted history Love affair with with the tigers and the english d. he's he said nothing but incredible things about about his experience here. It is a hell of a baseball town. I really good sports town too. I'm very much child the entire time. Aj have the english d. I just laughed. Why did he keep saying that. Because that's the style of the lettering that i'd all but but i was like you don't need to keep saying the english d when he was your facility kept i don't my point is what he did. It firm like we know exactly when he was referring to. It actually started noticing their logo. More the english demore. And i realized that is actually a very iconic and good-looking logo. I don't know why it out me but it's one of the best in baseball. I i think it's very simple and simple but it works slip makes. That's what i like about it. 'cause uniform ashes me uniform. Yeah i'm not as just their home uniforms. They're fun forms informs of find their way uniforms. Where it's the goofy detroit and cursive. And it's got orange where they don't have orange at home. I don't understand tigers have but it's it's got subtle pinstripe like old school or plane. I like when the car does go across the chest with their white uniforms. The saint louis cardinals. Yeah hey sad. Love cardinals so i'm not gonna love just go basic dodger not hate the oakland a.'s. Right i just when rent i. i'm. I'm big on basic when it comes to because it just listen you can like him or not when the yankees were just more pinstripes. Karen's weren't around old school. That's the basic bench right. I exactly i just love see. I think detroit's now the home you'd homespun and that just that boom. They ever changed the logo. I would piss me off. Tiger and inner whatever was smart to go from blue devil. Just like burland irwin from blue to blue blue and orange doubloon orange. So he changed his color schemes. All that much missing his old tiger stadium and they got together with the short porch in right and they got a place that nobody wants to hit in america and they used to be a place that other than centerfield. Everybody wanted to hit. In center s death valley man. It was like yell hidden in yellowstone four forty to center field at one point eight on. Yeah forty four forty five but you could hit a long fly ball to right field. You had a chance at hidden into the second level in the upper deck the second deck and then you did into the first step because you have line you get height on that deng lands and the overhang because he's second decks overhanging. Yeah and looking down on the field before you see the seats because there tucked back and has been that. I used to love balls that were pounded on top of the roof there. I love the old tiger stadium. Cool state but thanks change. I hope they don't ever do that. To like fenway park wrigley field. It was just weird seeing. Aj up there though. We knew the day was coming. Anybody that's only got. How did this guy he was always getting a job at the first frigging chance again. I'm all surprised to the detroit job but if there weren't a lot of jobs open and they do have a prospect. You know system. That's coming up that's looking like it's gonna be half decent and passionate baseball. Also a place that he goes and gets hired and once the season starts this year you're going to be talked about. And if they win you're the king. Yeah even that good what he does he will win of into the second he was. Let go here. Everybody said he'll be the second. He's suspensions up. Somebody's coming after he played there. Too right yeah. He really on i think on the same team. Steve sparks thousand three. But to me that the whole thing was funny to watch it as the owners talking about. Baseball was all high and mighty. But they're the first to go and jump to bring these people like somebody's gonna be the first to go and jump all over. George springer like they just they can say what they want. At the end of the day. They all knew what was going on. They all knew the teams are doing stuff. And it's just it is what it is all high and mighty until it helps you write sports talk seven seven ninety eight. A bill longtime multi. Very this is the sean salisbury show. Sports talk seven. Ninety mark in colombia will welcome in our number two sinead safe for mc josse. I'm shawn and we're here til ten o'clock is always monday and Weird monday daylight savings time. We're out get star earlier But it is well. You can be up doing your thing if you plan on sleeping in pass this time. We'll get you up because it's like. Yeah and we're grateful to have you tuned in on a monday. Texans have what the jags this week. Minus gardner menchu. No menchu glennon or a good guy with the the guys navy's at practice gadget gets you to two and six with. Yeah we'll somebody be traded between now and tomorrow's three o'clock central deadline And they're trying to get it you know they'll get this deadline in under all your political coverage that i'm sure everybody's fired up about tomorrow. I'm she can't wait sports. Talk seven ninety mark and columbus. What's happening man. I guess it's been a while. Yeah i've been doing man. Well unfortunately i got shingles man. You did a yeah right yeah. I'm okay the i've been on medication. The pay inch gone down. I made those sleep better. I've still got a little pain. But i've got those blisters and splotches and I don't know if he has anybody. I've never had them. I tell you this mark. I had the rarest case as a thirteen year old of the because my parents were getting a divorce. The time the doctor said i was too stressed out. I got a busted out in the shingle. And i know you're paying a and i hope you're okay mark but i can tell you this because you're always good for to make me give us a laugh but when you open up at seven o'clock at the mortgage talked to me about blisters splotches at that. I hope you the wife on now. Now but it's it's it's it's had an adverse effect on our sex law is for sure that under control quickly bark doing fine. Well yeah thank you Let's see you've already talked about Let's see on springer. I know yell doesn't look like spring is. He's from the boston area. Correct some hard new britain connecticut. Hard hit new. Britain wouldn't be surprised to see the red sox are somebody that would agree to that. But like what's the what's the incentive for them to do it they stink. They don't need him. They need pitching in the worst way. Truth just you got the dodgers and the yankees you know they always out better by but I love to have him back. But i i know they're gonna keep we're gonna keep branly. He says to get a header and You know. I don't know how we can sign springer 'cause obviously we're gonna need another starting pitcher and You know springer goes we may need another out there even though tucker's come on but I just kicked out around yes. Thank and It's really good to talk to you. Yeah great care thanks. Mark appreciate you calling sex blisters and spot. But i met. I've heard people who've had the shingles like saying they're supposed to be painful as it was awful right and his shouldn't have had it either. You're only supposed to get him when you're old right watch it. He knows the truth like older people. Mature seasoned do you think bradley's no brainer. That they should keep them. Yeah no they're going to keep him. I think the odds are probably pretty good. I think it's definitely. He's definitely going to be way below the number that he made last year too. I was saying yesterday. I think he was playing on a two year. Thirty two million dollar deal. It would not shock me. He's two two years twenty four million now because money is that's that's an eight million dollar pay cut off the beginning a boras. Yes plus even at the age of thirty four plus well. He's not hitting like he's thirty four right secondly he also is the one thing that when people came over when he came over from cleveland was everybody told me about troop pro. Everybody loved him. Going to be great. Look clubhouse will get when he's planned but it'll be hurt. yeah. Everybody talked about his durability. Well he he had the one hamstring. This past year only missed ten games if that but other than that the last two years. He's been nothing but pro- yeah he's been great so the other team normal market he'd be getting up to two for forty. Yeah in all market. I the team that. I'm coming around on for springer by the way the mets bets. Yeah you're pissed last week when that was said right you said no way they remember when you said spraying the. Why would anybody say springer to the mets who maybe identity thursday or friday. You're like i was just. I was reading something about the new honors call. This is going to happen. The owner coming in cohen. Who he doesn't have all losses on the books that everybody else does. And he's already decided that he's been he's gonna spend apparently already he's already. He's already reinstated all the employees that were furloughed and everything at their full salaries right. I've heard also that. He's going after real new springer. And i want to save one other either. I want to say it was another field position player. Not a pitcher. They're just going to stack up on all these top field position players in trying to get a better line because there's obviously confident pitching the ground aren't really coming around a real was. He's not gonna sign that that the offer either But and that makes sense to know. You're you're right about i mean. Come in fresh. Start for the mets as far as people that you know the way that they're gonna they're trying to flush out the feel everything we've thought about the mets right. Yeah and with some pitching when healthy. They're really good to go get a couple and they don't just need one banger. They need a couple of the catcher. And if they get. George springer makes trying to in the past right nate. It's not the same the new york yankees but right like this guy close up there. I don't know joy georgia's wife is from new york. Okay so yeah. I was about to say for george. I don't know how important i mean. I don't know how much it matters. So you know i remember. We had conversation with kohl. Said sometimes guys don't wanna go home because it's a distraction of everybody's in the ticket business. And i know when i played in san diego and i'm not one of those guys my last year in san diego it becomes more of all. You got your buddy. It's a it's great but it's also more of you're dealing with a lot more during game week than you normally would and that's just an average guy like me but when you're georgia and you've got all your buddies on. It's great to see him. But after a while caitland one hundred and sixty two of these right and offseason jerseys and it's great to have the initial goal but like anything the sexiness of it wears off and then you're back to justify it becomes a profession and you're working and you're grinding and you're gonna play well and there's pressure in new york but wife being from new york george being from new britain connecticut I don't know for some guys. And i i haven't heard him say he's really going this family. I know that for sure yeah. I didn't know if going home. You know some people say. I wanna play at home so some love it. Some don't care. I think i think it would. If his wife's from there any people. Like i mean when when the when the wife and the husband or from that part of the northeast and they might they want be around and if all their families still stays there joy. I get why you'd wanna on any given day. You can see mom and pops on a regular basis right now. It's not a bad gig and also it makes it easy to go do that when the team that you played for is not going to be pursuing your service. That's exactly right. I mean i should i keep saying that. I think the astros are prime. Make an offer to make an offer. I can't get it. I don't think it's a guarantee there's really no reason for the astros. Even make an offer outside of qualifying offer because the it's nothing against him they just they have other priorities. I don't think they're gonna make him another. I don't think they are either. I mean i just. I mean while we all want it but i mean you get to a point safe. You're not really what's the word. I'm looking for deep into the committed. Part of why would you right. Yeah just let it go and if either you're all in you're out right. Let's let's let's move on from and that's probably what they're gonna do. They made it george springer. Now the mets come into play. I don't see seattle being. I do think the cardinals are in the red sox obvious but i hate it. I hate to think this. But you can never rule out the new york yankees. oh read. They have outfield issues. they also have issues of. They're willing to say it is not an issue for them willing to say we're gonna blow everybody off. The wall question is known to do that. The only way. I think that's happening is if they do not keep dj mayhew and they should be focused on doing that which it sounds like they end up in the top five and hitting every year. Yeah guys just a machine. He's been a better hitter last two years. George george i mean maybe it's probably twenty one thousand nine but like last year he was better. Mayhew's been the best player on their team. The last two years in most consistent question anthony. Castro vince said believes the mlb dot com writer actually had george springer being going to the phillies and real mutual. Going in the mets. It's another one too. I don't have that much money on outfield. That they would i think. I think it's still another team sleeper. Here's the nationals. At don't have anybody on the east coast basically with a lot of money there. You go sports. Talk seven ninety roll along here. We'll stick it out next on. The sean sows berry show. Hey what's not healthy stressing about work. Maybe you're not getting maybe you're out of work or not getting the hours you want. Let's stop stressing and hit the reset button and start a new. Life is information technology professional in as little as four months from the comfort of your own home. 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Berry stakeout steakhouse on the sean sounds ratio fell. Stake it out well before we do. Let's let so we don't keep them on. Hold let's get to li li welcome in you know. I'm tired of being used sports fan and always selling for less than you guys are right. We're not going to resign george springer. But here's the deal. We're not just talking about a great player because you know being a great plan. The regular season is one thing. We're talking about one of the greatest players of all time in the playoffs on the team. That should be competing for world series malicious. Give it up. Even dog can't afford to keep everybody lie. You have to ask you have to use your brain. I do this every time you make a phone call. They cannot keep everybody. It's just a fact. They cannot afford to keep every single player. Okay i under. I understand that. We can't afford it because we don't have the type of ownership group. That's willing known team controversy around the league that will they won't the red sox. Nobody keep all their players. No no other team to keep all their players. Every team has yours. Go springer's nine imported. He's not one of the greatest players of all time. The postseason right. Nobody's downing that but you have to look at it from a business standpoint. He's thirty one years old. You can't go give a guy five years and expected to age well at this point. It's just a fact. Ladies got three more big time years. I would agree. Look i wanna keep george springer but there are reasons behind not keeping him that are real or read their financial reasons and my biggest point of this is sometimes just fans. We have to understand that uses the fourth largest city but when it comes to sports were a small market is they had the third highest payroll in baseball the last two years the number one highest payroll. We want to continue this party. If it's gonna get worse late. Thanks for the call appreciate it. I think we all are in agreement that we love george springer. Don't think there's any question. Legion is always negative. That's the first time i've met i think But i get his love. And want to for george springer let sometimes they just don't i. I'm assuming that end remembered. There has to be two players to the other guy. George has to play too. And i don't think they're gonna from enough if they blew him out of the water with the offer aid. Stay right but it's gonna come down to money and and the astros just aren't going to keep up. And i think part of lee's point seems to me is key. Wants them to keep up maybe overspend for or what is perceived overspending for some and for others. Not you know five years from now georgia in mid mid to upper thirty six right if you give them a five year deal. He'd be thirty six thirty six right so that that's a question you have to ask in the truth. Is you want to sign hammered. Twenty six year old career guys a free agent. You have to have both the wanna be on the same fate some guys. You're just ready to leave. And so we're not even sure how bad george wants to stay here. We really don't know we've really didn't we could sell. He's a at astro through and through. He's an astronaut to unless somebody offers and three million a year and over the course of five years fifteen million. My belief is part of the story. Is that george springer. Wants to move on i i i actually believe that too that i think if offers were equal. He's still move right. That's what i think it's skewed have to blow them out of the water and the astros just finance aren't willing and don't that is that call is looking at. They're not acting like the big boys go go. That's not looking at what they've done. The last four years. Jim crate has gone above and beyond to make the team better last year. Two thousand nineteen. They go out in the middle of the year. They didn't need it and they traded for that. Greek took all his money most of his money. Like when you're a foot in a ton so they act like the big boys. Don't even pretend that they don't when you're a top five payroll team. That's putting your t. That's putting money into that. That's put your money where your mouth is our josh. What got on the stakeout outlet so you talked earlier about you believe the buccaneers of the obvious favor. And then if i don't know about obvious but right now clear that to me after watching green bay yesterday and seattle's defense although they stepped up. I don't think that's their normal defensive performance to me. They're the clear favourite today as as a front runner in the nfc. I would agree so eight weeks into the season. What is your super bowl. Matchup the same superbowl matchup. I picked In the preseason in august and that's the tampa bay buccaneers beating the kansas city chiefs in the super bowl. So you don't think i shouldn't pittsburgh's the best all around team. I'm not gonna waffle said that i i think on offense and defense it gets right down. I think pittsburgh's the best if you put both the offense defense together in kansas city because their defense veteran can't cities and they're not far off offensively but i i also know that when it gets right down to it as much as i trust been mahomes is better and if it comes down to one of those games i trust mahomes to maybe make a few more plays and that would be the difference in getting them there now. We'll see how the rest of it goes. But i'm not gonna waffle on i still think i think pittsburgh's the best all around team in football right now i do. I just think that mahomes can make up for that and it's gonna matter where they play. I'm telling you right now. The steelers have the home field and so it stays that way. While i won't change my pick i would pick. I would think the pittsburgh would be the favorite in that game. I would and they're building and that's why these next you can't back off if you can't see you do not want to go to pittsburgh and i know bend one kansas city. Stay right there in heinz field. So i'm going with my preseason pick tampa bay with a forty three year old quarterback and now i actually think kansas city and pittsburgh right now are better than tampa bay. But i know how brady gets four weeks from now with the way the round in the form offensively and i can't wait now to see antonio brown this week i took when i can't wait to see how he fits in offensively a short period of time and how they try to mix it in so i'm gonna stick with my preseason tampa kansas city in a super bowl crazy for it. How about this now. That we've continued into this season. We had the steelers stay undefeated. Yesterday the jets remained winless. Who gets the one in the either l. Or w column i jets are steelers. The steelers schedule coming out play next. They've got the bengals at the jags home for the ravens Redskin excuse me. Washington football team bills bingles colts browns. Like they're they're scheduled. They got a chance for the jets. Play the jets are playing. The patriots. chargers dolphins raiders seahawks. Rams browns patriots burgled lose. I yeah that's the will lose a game. Scott the ravens lower baltimore baltimore orioles. The beat them in heinz field or buffalo will come up with buffalo pittsburgh yeah benz good for one of those a year where he just like. He's having knows this year. Though had any one of these games he sucked and they still but the game makes no one yeah and he played a few good throws in the early early right. So i would probably say still made enough made enough place i would i would say will lose before. The jets went josh wichita so bad. They're horrible back. Football couple. were questions right now. Who is your nfl mvp. And who is your rookie of the year. I would say klay pools been really good man. Burrow's the rookie of the year. Because of he is willing his stemming he's just to condemn and i i don't have to listen pocket renders. There's been some really good. Like i said claypool is better than i thought he's. He's a monster. But i i just don't know how i can't give the guy who touches the ball sixty five times a game and on a cincinnati team and they beat a really good team and he threw for four hundred the week before against cleveland gave his team a chance to win. He's competing his ass off to me. Boroughs the offensive rookie of the year. Her has a good shot. But right now. I think that i think that burrows on a worse team and play an e. He's still playing numbers sound and he's put it this way. He's validate and why he was the first pick. I can guarantee you that and may maybe and then some so. If i had to do it all over again he'd still be the first pick in this draft secondly and but claypool be a lot higher pick. I promise you that now. Secondly you said who's the mvp to me. I don't it's no hesitation. Now i think mahomes are starting to close it. What foreigners paul weeks from now brady keeps play like he's playing. He's going to be in the talk but right. Now i mean he's he's he's touchdown passes i mean he's on planet in epic level and on a defensive. He's had overcome every week but last but yesterday russell wilson's the mvp he was preseason mvp. I didn't think he'd have almost. He's got almost thirty. Touchdown passes twenty six twenty seven to four yesterday. I believe i was twenty seven. Yeah there's a stat that i believe. He's fast as ever going into the game. To get to that many touchdown fifty five. I think by peyton. I can't fathom that. I don't know how russ doesn't considering a run the ball very well. I don russ doesn't get the fifty and he's the mvp and what rogers were hanging around the malls sick. Brady's hanging around. I just to me twenty one touchdowns one pick. Yeah so the truth is mahomes is probably second by aaron rodgers. He is rogers at twenty. And i actually think that mahomes is probably secondly. Mvp voting right now and then. Brady's the top. he's i'm telling you that eighteen. He's gonna come in he brady. We remember we took the over four at forty three forty four hundred yards and thirty touchdowns we took the over. Its guy believe it's going to happen. He's going to have to get going yards. Wide variety is pace. While he's right there in yards to radius pacing for a season of forty three sixty six forty one touchdowns nine. Okay so there you go. We took the over. And i think we're going to get it all right sports. Talk seven is interesting. But i have zero hesitation on on raspy and the mvp. Right now. i don't think it's close and that same something considering what i say. It's not close the first name because mine is russ yet. You look at mahomes. Statistics we take one day. Granted we do because we expect. He's doing yeah we do and russ is finally getting the respect he deserves. Guys never got an mvp. He's gonna win it as long as this continues. Sportstalk seven ninety. Sean south reshow. And we're enjoying that a lot of good talk and we're all over the place in a good way today because there's so much to cover and as the texans get set to take on jackson. There's not a whole lot of game plan other than protect quarterbacking in. You'll win this week. Maybe play a little bit better defense. The trade deadline hits tomorrow sportstalk. Seven hundred had business owners. You struggling to kind of realized how you're going to recover figure out how you're going to recover and move forward and twenty twenty and beyond insperity is ready to help you develop an hr plan one that focuses on your organization a people strategy that supports your business strategy. 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I think he's the first player in history of football to score four touchdowns on the first four possessions of game at first fourth possession. The vikings he scored every time. Imagine being a fancy owner of him worth like nine million need anybody else. Diggers johnson sixty one. Josh kick my ass fantasy yesterday because my team sucks i competed. He has his now his team. But i just had a sistance steady. Yes yeah i had a seventy points that tells you know i've been hit by the andrew clog what you must add almost seventy himself. Who's sixty one. I want to say he's he is he is really. It's a shame. And i don't wanna say under the radar because i think people in in the no good he is but i think it is pub- i forget i honestly forget about them all the time. Yes go and alvin. Kamara and zeke elliott The dow cooks right now. Zeke elliott can't even in his league and look he's having this year under gary kubiak. Well which is the no shock. Yeah you know what i'm saying. They run it inside zone. It works on and they cutback and it's made for him. Yeah he puts his foot in the ground and he his explosion in the screen game and he hits that gear. He's really good and you know what he'll he'll come up and thump you a little bit too and size of legit three down bag on he is and he is playing his ass off in the packers. It looked like a packer team. That thought that an air de very average minnesota viking team was coming to town and that's what it looked like to me and then in minnesota while they've average dalvin cook was nothing but spectacular. There was nothing average about him and they actually got after it. Pretty good and i you know when you look at it. The truth is the packers. Should give up some for willfuller because devante adams is a is a monster anyway and you add another guy. They had all read their touchdown catch and really under one. Hundred yards really wasn't obviously seven catches for fifty three yards. They contained him. But you can take him to the tune of three touchdown catches right. How between two cats yesterday seven touchdowns and wanna say yesterday. Dalvin cook first. Vikings running back had fourteen since ahmad. Rashad everybody which if you're like me in our generation just about the football player until sean told me two years. A long shadows a wide receiver and to be his name. Was bobby moore no idea what you can remember. You told me you. A moderate is a football player right. I'm like what you only know him as a basketball. Yes inside right. Yeah that's how. I knew a moderate shot. I thought he was just a reporter. Bob rashaad was a hell of a wide. I had no clue until you told me. Yeah yeah there's not much. I mean football not like with my baseball stuff but i sat around and learned a lot of stuff as a kid just to know it and you would think i'd know that at some point i had no just like the guy who was the first pick in the nba draft. That was the nascar guy. Brad daugherty had no idea he was a basketball player until somebody told me. Because i knew him as the nascar tick dominant player at north carolina. Yeah not only newman's nascar guy. That's so funny he just that's he just loves nascar. Yeah i mean he. He was going nascar analyst. All dude you can't fit him in a car but he loves to no matter of fact i'm not so sure. Nascar isn't a bigger than basketball for him. Clearly it is. That was his job. I don't know if he's still doing it now. But because i don't think he. Spn does rask or any more absolutely loved it so yeah. He was a hell of a college basketball player one day. I'm watching and he's like suddenly doing some. Nba breakdown on like. Why do they have the nascar guy talking basketball. Because that was as i might oh he was an nba player. What at i believe a first round draft pick. If i'm not mistaken. He was the first taken the drug. That's right there you go. What did i say. Yeah that's right. He was the first pitch right. Sure wild i for some reason thought he was a lottery pick when they but he was he was the first guy taken it draft right crazy and he loves his nascar man he does really good at it so yeah. It's amazing what you learn. If you don't and these guys now flop careers you know what i say careers air broadcast and something else. Opposite of the sport they played which is pretty cool and ahmad rashad and brad daugherty or two biggest examples of that. Yeah which is which is pretty awesome. you'd mentioned about the we were talking about dalvin cook and it's it's a shame because he is like heap forces teams. I mean if right now you're playing against them you know they're going to stop him because cousins isn't really doesn't scare you very much you know. He's not very good packers. Let one get away from them yesterday and watching football all the way around. I'm gonna tell you something man when into this week decay metcalf. Let's talk about an animal back. Let let me tell you man to do this. One of the realize this year swings and misses by teams in the nfl draft emerson. Incredible do you realize that this dude the forty niners going in new that you had to double and they did. They might coverage over the top. The dude was double. Digits captures for almost two hundred yards. And you knew you had to stop him and he runs from jet sweeps he is. This is to make the argument water right now. Yeah yeah we'll discuss next sports. Talk seven ninety. Hello haters from la to new york her up and kiss our ass astros. Oh this is sports talk. Seven ninety home of your astros. Still twenty seventeen jams. Now outta sean salisbury. Show continues right now. discussing receivers. What amiss that people did. I mean missing. Aj brown and metcalfe metcalf is just a freak show. And everybody's like oh he just. I can remember the comparison. Stephen hill number two. Yeah sure georgia tech the other on straight line speed that says about six three and a half to six four to thirty five to forty running four three. I still can't get past this chase down. Tackle running for threes. And i guess we're his speed doesn't slow down with gear on these guys that run four four gear on them and their four three eight eight put gear on him there. Four five this. The gear doesn't getting his way. He didn't lose an ounce of speed. So it's it's phenomenal watching. What twelve catches for like a buck. Sixty bucks six sixty five two touchdowns one sixty one ya fifteen or six hundred fifteen targets so phenomenal this dude. Right now is as good as any. Re- is is frightening to defend as receiver. Infant football has thirty six receptions for six hundred eighty yards and seven touchdowns which has got to put him in the top five receiving. He is fourth in league in receiving yards in the season. Can you guys name the top five row. Quick i want to say guys that. Come to mind and after watching the big plays they've made i would say that hopkins has gotta be near the top of his because of his volume. He's number one seven or fifty seven catches seven hundred seven hundred four yards only thing. He doesn't have so far. This year is the touchdowns just three saute having a big year yard. That did every time i watch. He's making big places and he's probably not in the top five. That'd be top. Tennis calvin ridley calvin. Ridley is in the top five. He's big. He's having forty three for six fifty seven six touchdowns as well. He's had alters every julio jones. it's so weird. matt ryan has had. Julio jones for years does just like we watched with andre johnson. here in houston doesn't throw touchdowns. But calvin ridley there's all your touchdown in the top five adam and the top ten. I would probably say in the top. Ten is also and i would actually put them in the top five is allen robinson in chicago. He's just outside of its sixth to see some of the place he he's all. Don't sign him to a long term contract. They're just flat. I will say so. You've got your missing number two number three. I wanted to have his obvious. I think the third one. The guy who's sitting in third is not okay. I'll tell you another one who's having a big year. Got be top ten. But i don't know if he's top five as digs stefan zia secondly a good year fifty four receptions second six four or fifty four for six ninety five. Okay so you're missing number three. Only he's less than ten yards behind digs. Wow this was a. I will give you a hint. He signed a one year. Deal for free agent this past off season. Ooh that limits it One year deal is a free agent. Afc razzi nfc is where he's at. Now he was in the afc before one year deals gotta be a guy he used to play for the jets. That's right rodney go. He is heard in the league in receiving yards. This year. robby anderson and he's in he's in he's got. He's with a one six. Because joe brady six eighty eight. They have the the the panthers they have two of the top ten receivers in the league this year. They have him in. Dj who has thirty three for six hundred hundred. They drafted expected him to be this type of player. And i'll tell you another thing had you and that said he signed a deal and went from. Afc to nfc. It would've been a tough yet because you'd had to go through signed a one year deal seventy. I assured him was a two year deal deal. But did i tell yours. Twenty million ten era was it. Twelve million guaranteed one. Maybe it's guaranteed money put under a one year contract but when you went from. Afc to nfc. But he played for matt role attempts. And then you kept saying it's nobody will ever guess so you start many of those put any put that name for any anybody. Nobody would guess that. So so the only one. We left out oas robinson's outside the top. Five he sixth right. The obvious ones for me. The three were were easy for me. Ridley hopkins and metcalf. Where do you think that. I'd known that digs was having i thought digs was top ten. I didn't know anything. The first texans receiver comes in list of receiving yards leaders this year forties and the twenties in the twenty s fuller. Fuller's twenty second. Yeah cole beasley. Don't hate don't that's where we are cole. Beasley head of will fuller in the. He's had one more game but still he's ahead of willful. But how many yards eight yards. And he's got one extra game so in true it's still fuller on the average should be ahead of right so you think so so there but this kid. This dude Metcalfe and look what they think about. What digs is done for. Josh allen though what a great get by them oh fantastic ridley rounding into i mean. He's he's actually becoming a he's he's the turning into t's turning into the same production julio jones when he left but with. That's exactly right. I cat wants to. I mean i. I didn't think that he was going to be bad thinking like he is a legit. I got news. Do you know who else didn't think he was going to be. The most people the seahawks seattle took him what. That's exactly like sixtieth overall pick. Yeah that's exactly right or or people to jumped up. There's a whole lot of people that are scratching their head today. Biscuit what's on your mind man. A was developed. And you guys. Are you talking about the back to kinda peak peak. My i like to get you. A stance on the category is freakish athletes. And i remember When i was back in middle we had this one guy man he alone wonder want us district contract to do was i the i two hundred forty seven four hundred i in the long up and you know with on so you like i mean he was dunkin and he was like laying it up break. So i'm thinking of freaking athletes. I one kind of mind and jim brown. You know played all kinds of sports. Then come to mind bo jackson. I mean this dude was just a man amongst boys and everything did you know number three. I think of a lebron james. Just i mean it's so superior with the athleticism then i'm thinking dion sanders. Who's like i mean. I remember theon high stepping at midfield and leaving people. You know there's incredible. I don't know how you feel about. You couldn't throw out on the proper wanna mouses. it's picnic. Dion was a great. He used to beta. He'd let you. He would actually at times. Let the guy run by him and then see like on a deep post or deep ball so you throw it and put air on it. And then when i say run by okay got a little cushion and he would bait the quarterback into throwing it and then his ketchups speed while the ball was in the air. And you'd say how did he get to that. Well how it got to. It is because he can go from zero to about one hundred and twenty in two steps. Oh it was phenomenal watching his ketchup speed. And he he used to toy with. Quarterbacks was something special. I'll tell you as an underrated freak athlete. Who is rod woodson world-class young man about six two and a half to tin running running four threes. He played safety was a pro bowler. Played co coroner started corn. Move to safety could do it. All the dude was same. Monster athlete kabbalah. Yeah domino last ones randy moss. Man do out. Jim you know and and i it was just what made me think of is number forty six. You'll seen the ut game this weekend. I'm gonna have to keep an eye on them. A forty six. That dude is a beach. Yeah he's a big. I'll i saw it a game. I saw and i saw his his burst and explosiveness to you. Damn right i saw it. Yeah biscuit biscuit. Great point i'm going to tell you some. I talked to people who went to randy moss and work him out on campus when he came out of school pick was one of my friends told me that he is on the phone after a moss workout called the coach and said and This is differences in legend. Twenty first pick in a draft. Any wasn't willing to let them get by. That's amazing athletes. He also he was a nutjob before a gut or when he was in college. Bunch off-field field stuff skin. Thanks it was one of those. He called up and said This dude here was the guy that went beforehand only received beforehand tennessee. Yeah they didn't worry out he They called he called. Coach said This this teats different now. And you almost over fifteen thousand hours later on one hundred and fifty six touchdowns on absolutely unbelievable special. I would say if. I'm lining up my three receiver set. He's the only player so far from that draft in the first round. This major the all fame peyton will be the next one right. He if you're putting your all time top three received like i'm going through three receivers tied in running back. Take we left off. List never gets any credit as tied. John mackey go back and watch baltimore. Colts john mackey. The way he used to just completely obliterate kellen winslow senior big cattlemen's from winslow senior. Right won a golf tournament for phenomenal athlete. Instead but go back and watch john mackey play tied in and the old school days and watch just how he abuses people trying to tackle him and cover him got tight ends as a freakish position to for a lot of these guys because they're just they can do everything and now they can run. They can do it all. So that's a good position to look at. But yeah randy moss. If i'm lining up my all time. Three receivers tied in and running back. Moss makes three receivers set of all time of all time. He's my number one that's just because he was my favorite player. I i understand and shit odd because most people put rice there are some. We watched moss in his prime. Who yeah i. Salt rice a little bit. But i mean rany was. I had a randy moss jerseys kid guy who could jump the highest run. The fastest also had great hands. Moss's the guy because jerry wasn't really damn that damn game. He had at thanksgiving day against the against the cowboys was just the dumbest game ever. He knows that he could send a message to you in and humiliate you in a hurry. Yeah sportstalk seven hundred hour number three next right here on the sean south show houston iheartradio station. The as drones astros baseball. The rockets your home for your home. This talk seven. Ninety from the classic chevy sugarland studios find new rose quarterback longtime crenshaw salisbury. This is the sean salisbury. Show sean. Sports talk seven ninety not santa power number two. Or she's me over three apps who's the all-time metcalfe's ranking. There's only there's only three that i can think of decay terry and eric. Yeah no of. May i think i have to think about metcalf. That's it. yeah you're right and i would go terry. Metcalf was so fun to watch. The i think you he. He was the best eric. Second decay because decays got the least amount of it but in the long run he leads. Decay metcalfe's going to be first terry second and eric their the twenty nineteen draft. He leads every receiver taken with yard so far he was like the seventh or eighth he was the last pick of the second round when all is said and done de que will have the best metcalf career. The texans are going to need to find somebody like that in the third round next year. Good luck good. Luck is right. Good live never hit on men around draft picks. Yeah that ever. That's a tough one too. That's gonna be a tough one find and a tough one to quite frankly not only find but then to have him actually performed this quickly. This yeah that that's another part of it Aj hinch has a job. And here's what he said we talk. He got the job addressed the media number six. Here's what you know the scandal and you know. Hey when people have served their time. Don't they deserve the opportunity after being remorse won't serving their time to have a chance. We preach it all the time so why not. Aj hinch here sal. He's addressing the scandal in his life. Taking i've taken ownership of it. I've only interview that i've done. Was you know before sprinter. The initial spring training last year and this game is about players and this game is is is is one by players and the competition that goes on the field It's incredible and i congratulate major league baseball and all the teams for getting through this season and getting getting getting us to get to watch baseball and be part of another championship. Season was was simply remarkable. And you learn a lot along the way when you're on the outside and you're looking in and i do have a lot of experiences to share. I do have conversations to have with players and coaches and And i've done that throughout the season. Not not not in this position but absolutely those are tough conversations. And i will have them one by one i will have them as a team There's a clear message of that's part of my story and part of my career. It's not a part of of of the players that i'm going to be managing and my. I'm sorry that they're going to have to deal with it and that and then again we're going to have to talk about it but that is our reality because wrong is wrong and it was very wrong and i'll make sure that everybody knows That i feel responsible. Because i was the manager and it was on my watch and i'll never forget. It seems pretty simple to me. Yeah guy seems like he gets. You can listen that man talk for two seconds and you know. He is built to lead yes. It seems like he gets it. It seems like he knows that he did wrong. And probably at the point time i would gather that didn't quite know how to get out of it and it's hard when he said it's a players league. Don't misunderstand the fact that even during that when players are going good. Try to tell them not to do some hard to do even when you are the boss. I mean they. The evidence in the investigation said on two different occasions. He broke the monitor but he didn't do anything to get rid of it. Because it's a mistake. I remember that season like it was the start of. It was incredible and it was this high that they came out just beaten the hell of people for the first few months and i can't imagine trying to stop stop something drug man right and he. But here's what. I do like whatever it is that you guys anybody in society or sports goes through and you know what. It's okay to criticize him. You wanna why. Because he's earned it but it's also okay to say now earned this you'll out detroit trust you. And if it's good enough for the tigers to pay him and say we've done our due diligence and we believe that remorseful. It's not going to happen again. He realizes it was on his watch. And i liked what he said. Instead of the ally confess he did it. He said it was wrong. It was on my watch. And so i'm responsible for it and you know what i can always forgive a guy who doesn't give me the all who you know the guys who don't think that they were wrong. He's stepped out to the forefront. I mean we just saw jeff luna an interview and he completely comes off as the guy that thinks that sound like right. Aj and out in front of it immediately and this interview and whatever happens to jeff luneau remains to be seen as far as getting another job or where his career takes him but in this interview and something to be said when they take away. What you love to do how you shape your life up now. I don't know about his life. And how that had to be shaped of but shaping your life up understanding. I made a mistake. How do i address it. You run from it and you know. He did a great job of staying silent. Not being a distraction during a baseball season. Talk to people on. I'm sure he sought out a lot of advice as well from people he trusts. Those are and then to address it and have conversations because if you're a player in detroit that one that year were bitter it what they did and now he's going to manage you and i doubt there's any players on that team that were better right and if there are also yeah but if he'll talk to you and that's okay we'll get through it and like he said man. I'm sorry that you're going to have to go through an answer questions for a team to start responsible for it right but they are now because they hired a guy who was and you're just going to have to deal with it and Leaders don't tell people how to do it. They show him and it seems to me that. Aj's going to step out into the forefront of it and be the shield to say. i can only. I can shield you so much because this is not on detroit. Because he didn't do it on detroit's watch so. I'm always willing to listen always willing to give a person a chance to now. The hard part would be if he did it again and got caught then. We look at age and is full of crap. That's not going to happen. And so i think this is a great hire. Probably a little surprising because some people think he probably could held out for better team at some point probably because high demand even through. This oughta tell you how they hold the regard. They hold him in which he as a manager and he also learned on the baseball diamond after his first managerial experience in arizona. What to and what not to do. Yeah i'm here was a different man. That's exactly right now off the field. This is why he's a guy that just gets hand on the field. He's learned some valuable lessons. That i'm assuming we're going to sustain him and get him through which will be some tough times base excess baseballwise. We'll have using season this year for the first time since he's managed. There's that's exactly right and he will lose this season. He probably lose the season after that too. I can tell you this as a baseball in his sport. I'm not talking about in his private life. I don't you know if you lose a family member we can all talk about. Will this be the most adversity to face. I'm not on about in his life at some point time you lose parents if they're to will you know if you're seventy and your parents are one hundred. Eventually they're going ended up right so and people don't like to go through that none of us do that. Sucks but as far as his career. What he's been through this last year will surely help him. Sustain adversity meaning losses. Yeah because he's seen the worst of the worst and listen and they're still going to be people that are going to bad mouth him horrendously but we are in a rehab life. We are in life that when people do something wrong. it's weird. we love them to be stars and we love to tear them down. Oh yeah the inflicted people love the ayrshire. Of course they do and then you love to turn down and then you know what else we love to build them back up again. It's it's anybody that served their time and beyond their their punishment. And whether it's through the media whether it's gettin did not get the paycheck keeping you out of your career now. He's got a chance to come back. And will i have there. I'll tell you who will suffer worse than aj. Hinch the people that hold the grudge against him. Yeah i think it's funny to you. Mentioned the suspension. He serves suspension and people deserve like. He's not going to get nearly the criticism and the vitriol. The players have gotten. And i think that is a reminder of how this all went down to like he still mad at the players and still say the things about the players win. The players literally came out and apologized. And if you actually listen to what so many players said they would they were. They were like they. They sounded real like their apology was real. They felt like they. They actually apologized to multiple times because people because one apologies not good enough for idiots in this world but they also became victims of not being punished. People aren't they channel their angered the wrong people that it's not the player's fault that they didn't get punished for it. Baseball gave them the immunity. Be mad major league baseball for so. That's funny to me like if the players have been suspended for it. What would the noise the morning. The noise might be different for them right. Oh and you should be mad at baseball for that. Gave the players and out and the players did what they should have done. Take it immunity attacking the out. Why wouldn't you. I mean whether you did wrong out. They're going to give you an out good gracious and it's just letting they wouldn't have if they didn't give you the out. They wouldn't have spoken as we all would expect. Steroid users never spoke unless they would be given something and j. jeff luna would still be the manager and general manager here. Yes we wouldn't have bought this thing. Probably i'm talking about the players never spoke. Oh yeah san enough on them. It would have been mike. Fires word versus. There's and the he said she said usually workout. Unless there's people back in the he said you know what i'm saying. I don't mean the and she hoped he said he said in this case right whereas they said this and the astros could disagreed. And unless you could prove it with other people saying yeah they did and then it was going to get to the point where it would eventually just gone away. Players get immunity they talk and the punishments doled out and they missed out on the punishment. It would have been like the red sox right now where they can basically just put it on the video manager and he says oh. No one else had any axes information. It's like okay. Come on doing this refund in. Its nobody nobody else's agreeing with it. Then what are you gonna do right. But he and the and the he said he said mike fire situation because the investigation resulted in any detail and it wouldn't have been able to get down the road right. It would not have gone down. It would have stopped eventually and hit a detour and the detroit lead to nothing. Yeah but the players had the they wanted to try move on from it and they gave what they gave and exactly what it is sports. Talk seven hundred shot. We show rolls on. Aj hinch and. There's a chance that alex. Cora is still in the mix with the boston. Red sox college football big one coming up this week. No trevor lawrence as the covid protocols going to keep him out a freshman going to south bend and win and the texans take on the Jacksonville jaguars which shouldn't be very difficult. Fact you're down to you like your twenty seventh quarterback sports talk seven hundred proudly broadcasting from the most hated city in baseball. Houston rides with the sean salisbury. Show on sports talk seven. Donald now sometimes sportstalk survey ninety. Got to thinking about college football and questions that come to mind guys about So much like. I said with that texans taking time off the texas tech partner head coach. Yes the astros being done in the rockets already official daryl morey than philadelphia mike. D'antoni is now system. steve. Nash and coach silence is now the coach here and so things are settled at. So there's there's no games to discuss when it comes to here at the pre getting ourselves ready for this week coming up. And what can the texans do. Basically second half of the season post by and if they're going to trade anybody which some will continue to keep an eye on and discuss and college football now starting to settle in pac twelve comes back this week. Congrats finally played football pac twelve. And we're we're a couple weeks for thanksgiving and for finally get our first game in the pac twelve with a season opener november and my trojans opened up against our guy herm edwards an early. I early game nine. am our time. Well that's the reason. Is that the pregame. It's an eleven start time here. They wanted to be one of those first games. The have the excuse that they aren't getting pub so they're starting to wake up. Call us for nine. Am start in the my five million four. it'll be arena nine. am start. they're it's to be three here. It's twelve eastern. The wakeup call would probably be used clock. What time at the stadium two hours before the mandatory two hours before and what time you want to get there so that would mean they'd get there at seven which most guys are going to wake private four o'clock in the morning right because it's the opener on your nerves and stuff so the key is they better get a lot of sleep thursday night because they're not gonna get much. Friday melatonin the dark room. That's exactly right. Let me this questions about. We were discussing earlier one. Trevor lawrence doesn't play this week against notre dame the freshman filali guy swear to. What's his name by. I'm gonna calm ukulele tongue. Even though there's no in there it's pronounced there's an it's unglued galela delay. I believe it was the first. Yeah i do too. I think there's a love before. The layla right and he had a really good game. And he's a big stud and a big physical both find the hit together on our specs picks bingo and yeah we did about time was about time. The drake was good too. So it'll be specs. Pick of the week which will pick again this friday it was. He's a good player now. Just the presence of lawrence of trevor lawrence. Now you're going into southbound on adult fans not there but still at south bend and notre dame and to start to get your second game right but he should grow in confidence because he brought his team back after they were taking a beat down by the foreign to boston. College wasn't ranked so. There's that but it leads. Trevor lawrence will will not win. He may still win a national championship. But he will not win a a heisman trophy and depending on Google alleles perfor- uncle got its tongue. Vilo underlay wrong. Olaleye his performance. This week you look at clemson looks to be in pretty good shape when trevor lawrence leaves but arts. That's one do you guys think he's got a chance to win the heisman missing two games die. Don't say no. We say no chance but then he could put up crazy. You know video game numbers and he's still gonna finish probably second right because there's nobody in the big twelve that's worthy of it. There is days comedy put up. Yeah put up. Big numbers The sec is the place. It's either going to be an sec acc player. Because they're going to play a full season. nobody's gonna pac twelve. Big twins gonna win it a good player clemson i. So he's not completely dead now but if if all the sudden accused now johnny the top so if they lose a game then he's back in and maybe if you and if you played poorly in a big game jones i'm talking about. I just think the chances are slim. Let's put it that way and then to michigan we go michigan state's not a real good football team. Guys they suck. They had an off season. That was hell. If i was a gambler. I would have bet michigan. I bet i bet the i did give somebody hit on the under and i think it was fifty one fifty one and a half either gotta by point or tied. Yeah but i would have never. I didn't think michigan against michigan. State's defense michigan. State's offense against michigan's defense. I don't think they were going to be a move. The ball and. I don't think this shitty initiatives quarterback for the football and i watched about happy. He gets a monster he can throw the short little short stuff right. He can't throw anything down the field size. Start to wonder now. And this is is going to pain me to say because i love jim harbaugh and i've known him for a long long time but i would be losing credibility if i thought. Oh he's done a incredible job michigan. He's done a decent job. Dare i say it's he was supposed to elevate because michigan still michigan. They win games. Michigan's gonna die hard ball or anybody else to eight games when in a normal season. Is jim harbaugh. Getting them over the hump. No and the answer is he's not. It's very similar to that. I mean it's. It's better overall tom. Herman situation but no he's. He's forty eight and nineteen and thirty three and thirteen uncomfortable. It looks great. But he hasn't beat right. I mean he. He has three at least three losses this season and he's not had his team may point contending for a playoff loss always is one of those lawsuits always to can't do it and he's lost every game coach but his first one. And if you're tom herman you can't lose the oklahoma regularly if you're us's coach if we lose ucla or notre dame. I don't care you go nine three and go to ball game but you can't you can't and you can't if you're ohio states coach losing their. If you're if you're florida losing a florida state of you. Just can't you can't do it and i thought about this and i think okay we keep talking about offenses or the. How the offense. The quarterback have you ever noticed michigan whereas all these recruits. What's wrong why they're off. It's better than they hire. Gaddis these that go grab a guy from alabama or according to patterson right and it's like okay. Where is it and now milton. Who's got a world of potential mccaffrey. Transfers. i mean it's like okay. When's the what's the problem here. i i just. There's a part of me that thinks. And i know this and the nfl in certain places. The speech gets old. It's gotten older. Yeah i think so. I think they've hit their ceiling with him. I thought the last two years. They had a good show the playoffs each time because they had patterson and they seem to have so much talent around him but they always worth a couple times a year three times a year and then go to the conference championship game. One time with a look and you want know what you won't talk about right. I mean that was that the look it up. Do this and i tell people this. I know michigan's a historic program in it is. They haven't won national titles. They've won in the last four decades. They haven't they haven't been to one of my lifetime. I think. I think many times since one thousand nine since i was born. Go back to when i was born. Say nineteen seventy two now and and baffle your mind this historic france. I mean i many national titles eight one. They are completely over. Hyped program that that say over hyped from the standpoint of their thought of as we put them in notre dame and then the alabama wins all time right hop three at worst phenomena since two thousand. Now go back to eight. I'm just looking at the since two thousand. They've only had two seasons where they've had less than three losses and sniffed national title. Since then right their last nineteen ninety-seven. They went twelve now so it wasn't my lifetime national title. No the doubt says they finished number one who won the title. It's okay but there's one yeah. Who was the coach. They win the title at year right. They just finished number one. That's what i'm saying. They did not win the national possible regular. Well could be that you know that was when we were doing remember. We had to go back. Was bo shambala. Her before that national title while before post nineteen eighty point all the respect in the world for michigan football. But we talk about them like oh about every five years. They're in the hunt. They're not so over the course of time. If this is the way it's going to be who's busting through the gyms of former player their alma mater the people. I'm a big harbaugh fan. The truth matters. If jim gets seven. They claim that they claim the title and ninety seven. Didn't they did. They split it with the tennis. I mean wasn't that the tennessee tennessee season with manning as well. That's my point. Wasn't that lloyd carr and in that season and peyton manning and tennessee split national title because michigan beat washington state in the rose bowl and i covered the tennessee nebraska. Game that tennessee but with a nebraska. Wasn't it yeah coaches poll nebraska furniture. Ap was michigan. That's why i'm saying. Nebraska beat is covering the game bracken tennessee at the orange bowl nebraska was technical and right and washington state got beat. That was the ryan leaf team. I believe ryan leaf team. Got beat by michigan. Brand gracie's team found out mistake correct. Yeah and in in the greasy backed up by brady right there. You go so my point before that. Though their last tidal their last claimed title was nineteen forty eight get my head unclaimed titles says and eighty five seventy three sixty four but still like yeah i mean because they consistently in ten eleven game. We'll take a closer to home. Nothing against the two teams they're just like texas and like like texas ain't in both of them in more so i am than texas texas at least is store had been play the championship dork because a names on the team because of the name yeah and because of its texas football and wins they won a lot of games but when you get right down to national titles the can name ten programs better than i mean we overvalue all these writers has been worth a damn in the last twenty years basically and it's been alabama's next haven clemson's now for consistency being in it all the time ohio states right there right hell oklahoma is at least they're they're oklahoma's more historic look. How states doing regardless of the coaches that michigan's not as my point and i like our. We'll continue to discuss when we come back. But i just and i think if fired from somebody in the nfl higher in a heartbeat. I get a job. there's no problem. He feels like a short tenure coach. Doesn't he three or four years telling you right because his speech guys like camera. They grind on pat ryan. They grind on the players. And it's all jon gruden. They get it but he's good coach. The problem is michigan as a broke through. And if not you gotta find somebody that can. Because it's been a while. And what. I mean breakthrough i mean when they're crowned like they're in the championship game. At least right sports talk seven ninety Dr jeff whitsett vision dot com mike guy and should be your guy for lasik procedure. I'm i'll stand up. I am perfect. Example and i needed a second time from twenty five years ago. I said i gotta have it. And dr jeff whitsitt said we'll let me do all the measurements. I took my free consultation. Said because everybody kept saying this is the guy and i like the personal touch instead of a business all. It's a big business. That does everybody. I want the personal touch. 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Hey this whitney mercilus here. This is the real texan salt on your smart speaker. Just say hey. google play. Sports stocks have ninety on iheartradio. Wear a mask all where gloves. Where leather and chains reminds me of that time. I accidentally walked into an sem convention. Back still hurts. Good speaking of back pain back to former. Qb sean salisbury sports. Talk seven ninety. Get medieval on them sean. Combat to go medieval. There's some college teams that are going medieval. We're waiting for jim harbaugh to go medieval in michigan. They lose to michigan state. I ain't doing any types of can't lose those games. You just can't as much as i and i may die hard. I am a harbaugh fan as jerry jones would say but i gotta get gotta get more out of it. They are they paying a lot. Urban meyer leaves ryan day takes over there getting everything out. Jim harbaugh and i liked jim michigan fans. I'm sure the frustration has to be growing because we always think it's somebody else the quarterback at something wrong. It's coordinator but they've got don brown as a hell of a defensive coach. And they good enough quarterbacks at five and four star guys transfer and they still can't get over. The hump is missing at michigan. Apparently buyout would be around ten million bucks right after this season and the question is do you think harbaugh can get you through and get you through isn't top ten finish getting you. Through is a national final. Four chance john other team in the team owner. Yeah they they. They keep getting that john. Welcome in man what's up. What's going on guys. I'll good all good man and let me get you off to be better for you. Got me you know what. You're absolutely right on michigan there but and hear me up on a couple of days. But i'll tell you another one that holly over every year and that that's motor day says notre dame all this then they get to an playoffs and the big picture i mean they they to talk about ready and oklahoma i mean they came. Play with no your teams you know. I was looking at sofa or clemson. Dan this weekend and having trevor lawrence just and a new one and now this john. I don't think other kids gonna be efficient jar twelve john. Let me taste some this. Validates your point though before and i'll let you finish your point this is. This is the time when notre dame loses a game. Oh this is on. This is now. Listen my my southern cal trojans have been known to screw this up a few times too so i'm critical them and i love notre dame but i will promise you this. This is the time around this time every frigging year we got. We got the fighting irish. This is their time and all of a sudden a backup quarterback or somebody comes in. Turn the ball over at their home field and lose to somebody. They're not supposed to now. This is clemson. They're gonna show up even with a freshman quarterback in this freshman not exactly chopped liver so he confidence. I'm telling you now. This is around the time that he's going to. This is where notre dame needs to overcome what we're validating them on. Normally this is the game. They normally lose. I'm i'm gonna get you here and get off. Because i know y'all gonna be up against about for your comments a couple of thanks one. I don't know why. I really don't because even back in his sc days. I don't know what your foundation she with. Sam darnold because even at sc hebrew picked. I mean i don't knows. I'm of nazi fan or got. But he would go. Pick stupid ticks and he just has not floors in the nfl. And then the other thing. If i remember correctly after mike leach eight my any issue policy. Everybody all bring my league test. How's that looking for you now. These show they don't have a reality check in mississippi state good guy. Thanks john i off. And my mike had a good one and we also realize. Lsu's not very not. We've talked before. Mike mike's mike's gonna get his guy and i assure you mississippi state is gonna beat some people. They're not getting back to being mike leach. Football a transfer quarterback k. J. kostelic in yet. And and you're right and would mike leach. Listen all you go by with mike leach track record. He goes and fixes. He does now harder to fix in the sec. 'cause they play lsu ten times and not going to beat him very many times but has a couple of those a year and it always starts a little bit slow. He'll tell you turn them around a bit. Now what's number out of it to seven wins get dak prescott type player. You've got a chance to get better right. He just needs players. Michael his type guys. And i don't believe this is my last stop. I'll just leave it at that. I don't believe this. Stop probably early. Basically once every team after lsu learn rushed three drop eight places zone again going to stop them against the key. Because you catch and tackle and the sec's while defense hasn't been at a premium in some situations this year and lsu's hadn't played great defense this year is they have to is is. You can't if you play and let them run crossers and mesh picks and let a guy like they did in the first game and costello throw schwartz seven plus it. They're six six or seven hundred zero six twenty three years. Yeah i mean you push seven hundred yards john. Here's what here's what it is about. Sam darnold i cried. I'm extremely critical. Gnarled i think he's going to be one of those guys that's gonna throw picks in his career i can. I and i'm not just going by me. And i don't have an infatuation with i think he's far better than you see in new york. He does have a shot to succeed. It wouldn't matter if brady was there. Brady begin his brains beaten he they would not be. They'd be lucky to win. Three games of brady was. There is as good as a guy like if mahomes was there. they would make the playoffs. They wouldn't sniff the playoffs with that roster although they probably be about five or six games better you get my point. That's good mahomes is. But here's the 'cause i think well not think i've talked to probably eight two dozen play. People that are either coaches front office people or people who scout the position and who studied it. And i like to think. I'm one of them. So damn near a dozen more. And you realize i had yet one person tell me they think sam darnold's going to be a bust and asya. I mean these are people that have had some success. You're gonna miss every now and again. If darnold played for cleveland. I think he'd be better than mayfield right now. Because mayfield has not looked great. And i think bakery at right. He's been up and down. Now we can say darnold if you flip flopped them. Cleveland would still be five and three probably does that. Make sense and the jets would be winless And i don't compare baker because baker is not the measuring stick right yet. Yeah but my point is that that now there may be a dozen of us that are completely wrong about when he does go to another team. If trevor lawrence goes there and it's a good team. I would think that gun telling you guys like that are on an nfl team. That feel like they gotta chance. There are some that would say. I'd rather have darnold than the first round fifteen draft. I'm just telling you there would be by the people now. we can all be wrong. I'm not infatuated with him. But i know his arm. Talent says he's better than this. He's going to throw some pics. Dumpster dumpster fire franchise. No doubt in the best thing can happen is to get out. I saw. I guess it was just a back to yesterday. About the jets and chiefs games. The highest paid jets player on the field. Yesterday was on bill for the chiefs exactly so so john. You're right. i think people look at sam. Darnold say bus right now. We'll of course everybody in the jets is right now but people that i've talked to that i'm saying my wrong my seeing something different that this guy could be a player after what we saw him. Come in and i have yet to talk to get through. Think darnold's not player. I'm sure but the people. I've talked to that i trust in business in this business. Think that not only is he a player. Got a chance to be a special player on the right team. Now who does is mahomes arrests wilson or even our guy here absolutely not but darnold is better than what you've seen. Nobody's going to the jets under that roster to succeed some may be better. But if i'm sam darnold i understand why you're taking shots and throwing picks because you really. What else do you got. But he he'll be a better player somewhere else if he goes somewhere else but he's still got a long way to go to be the guy. There was the third pick of the draft. There's no question about it sports. Talk seven hundred j. Stay right there. you're up first. we come back. It is the shawn's sows bridge. Show right here with mc and josh and sports talk. Seven hundred dollar. And back to the sean salisbury show. Sports starts seven ninety. We'll get to a couple of cow. Mcnair thoughts no. It's one bit quoting there. You go prepare to be pissed tomorrow. Prepare to be pissed You've been pissed all year. Why not be more pissed when this quote when you hear this because he sounds what do you think. Well we'll get to that the second jay. What's happening man. Welcome and good morning. How are you. ma'am doing great. Thanks hey man you know. I'm from michigan. Born and raised brought up on the navy blue. I'm talking about going back to bump elliott man when elliott was the head coach in michigan. Duffy thought he was at michigan state. Two games you have to win at the university of michigan have to be the state. If you have to michigan state no i mean no no second-guess no question about it. I am so sad to see what has happened to the michigan program under jim harbaugh Basically what has happened. michigan has become the detroit. Lions college the lakers. The state of michigan man. It's just really sad. And that the buckle on Saturday man doesn't make me feel any better but as relates to hardball man. I was never that excited about into Just given the fact that he had been quarterback at one of the teams back in the day other than that. I just didn't really feel real good about the higher. What my understanding is that. This guy has a lot of connections with the boosters. He has a lot of connection. These raised of money. And i think that might be one reason. They have been hesitant about pulling the trigger on this guy and i think this this season made make the difference especially if they continue to play like they've been playing late but i'll just really sad to see what has happened. I'm hoping they can get somebody there. That could make this j before you go do since you're such a fan and like when you mentioned bump and then duffy daugherty and that those row. It's like like i said. Sc got to be ucla and notre dame where you gotta. You can't keep the job and it's the same. You gotta beat those too. You'd mentioned Do you go on like message boards. Or you're like a michigan do. Do you go on like a fans go on. Do you ever go on those and see what people are saying about it. I don't do a lotta that occasionally and mostly list. And i'm not doing a lot of adding on anything. Let the prevailing attitude man. The buzz the buzz from michigan alumni about jim is that they like they like them and of course they like the money man. They liked the money coming in that. You gotta you gotta admit at the end of the state. That's the bottom line black sports. That's the end of the day and he's raising money man. He's really good with the boosters. he's good with the public there and the personally they like him right but He's just not. You're not getting done man. He's got how long you've been there. It's so sad man. i don't need to keep up with virus wins lobster and much more. They just need to get rid of him. He's done well for the time. He's been there to raise money for the school to raise money for the program. But he's not getting it done on the field. They gotta make they got a big decision can make sure do the call jay. We appreciate it. Thank you okay yeah. I think that's the case jim. And he knows how to recruit but for some reason they're players somehow. Don't close it out against so state knows how to recruit to. Yeah there's a lot of good recruiters in the big ten right so jim knows how to do that and they do just enough to keep you teased but not enough to make you satisfied and when you make a lot of money the big bosses like it and he doesn't know how to raise money so at j. makes a good point. It's just man. You can't keep losing to michigan state team where you win one. You lose one. And then you're supposed michigan state. Maybe not basketball continues basis. Although michigan's become a hell of a basketball program over the last decade plus right or well we can all go back to the fab five but they we. When we think michigan you think right yet. The basketball programs the baseball programs. That's exactly right and they're not a place that typically plays baseball in the biggest name on in the places. jim harbaugh. Yeah right so you gotta get better. And maybe they will. But you can't keep saying maybe because michigan fans expect. Maybe he'll be available for the texans to hire could happen could happen. Actually i mean i could have. I don't know how i feel about it. But i don't think i'd be horribly mad bar. Josh mcdaniels are ball interesting. All right speaking of which trade deadline small three o'clock are would count mcnair site. Mcnair was quoted this morning. Everybody's been tweeting about it. Aaron wilson. I saw aaron. Reese covers the team for the athletic as well. Calvin nervous speaking this morning and had a quote about tomorrow's deadline. This is what he had to say when asked if they're going to be active he said no big news. You'll see some little things that happened over the weekend but no big moves. We like our players without her team. We have a lot of season left a lot to play for. There's an extra wildcard game this year and so you don't know what's going to happen one thing about me. Other people don't know is that. I am an extremely optimistic person. I don't believe in giving up and we won't our team won't our ownership won't our coaches won't we're going to go out there and believe in each other when one game at a time and see where this season is this store. These are this story on. The season is not written yet to go out there. And give our guys a chance and we're going to see what happens. It's it's going to be fun. The other thing about being a wildcard. Is you go on the road which you think is a big disadvantage but in this crazy year we have. There's very few fans if you go on the road so the homefield advantage isn't what it typically is an atypical year. So that's not going to have to be such a disadvantage to us. What what is he talking about. Your team has won one game out of seven. You are awful. You can't stop anything defensively in. This is your reasoning. Because i'm an optimistic person. I'm not going to go and make any trades to better my team that literally has no chance to improve itself after the season because you have no draft picks you have no free agency money available. You have to trade people. Your franchise is crap for a reason. This is why your fan base is disenchanted with you. Because you're stupid and that quote is so dumb. let me tell you. They can't and we will come back and discuss at. The top of this hour is they. Can't they're not gonna no matter what they're not getting better this. She's operating his home. We're building assets for the future. If they make trade. I will tell you this. It's shocking to me now. Optimistic one thing delusional and other that's delusion one six you'll be two in six after after jacksonville that keeps you with eight games to go that you're basically what to in six main can win ten games at max and then and then then then you'll still be a wild card if you're lying straight games team is not good enough to win nine straight football game. They're not and that's the prophet hey. I love optimism but delusional and wrong message. If you're building for the future you got move some people if you just think the if you really think you're a playoff team at one in six. This is typical on kirby sniffen their own drinking their own kool aid sniffing their own jobs being delusions never won championships. Asking sean to leave when his contract done. Yeah and maybe beg out sooner. They could you trade dot going to happen. He gives you a chance every week. The defense doesn't sportstalk seven ninety hour number four next. We will discuss his quotes. 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Because there's an extra wildcard team and then he's even looking ahead of the place where to go on. The road is the wildcard team. And there's not a disadvantage of being a road team this year. Nfl texans at this moment are the fourteenth seed in the afc the seven cs five and three. That's the cleveland browns they are. They are like five hundred. Texans are one in six with only two teams below them in the standings because they hold the tiebreaker of the jags. And then there's the jets who don't have a win but hey they're not gonna make trades because they're in the playoff hunt. There's only one two three four five six teams ahead of them in the standings between them and the seventy yup. They got this. I'm just curious about now. Listen by making a trade even if it was for a fifth rounder and a player that you're not going to get better your team's not getting better by making a trade this year so let's push data side. They're just not now. If you traded player straight up player for player and said well this guy may be a better. Passer traded merciless for somebody else. But people don't give away pass rushes unless they get something really. Good return so you. That's not happening so you won't get better this year. The question is how are you building for the future. But if you're owner who signs. The paychecks actually believes that one in six. The you're thinking wildcard now. The players must need to think first off the players need to think coming out of this by. We're going to beat jacksonville. Which should be shouldn't be a tough task. But help one in sixteen anything's possible. You can lose them or you can win them. But i just. I think it's a bit delusional and i'm curious if someone out there that seven three two one two five seven ninety thinks that this team has legitimate shot talking about a legitimate shot at making the playoffs with this extra team. You think you've got a legitimate shot. They're tied for the worst second. Worst record in the nfl. If you think that they have a legitimate shot urinating want here. Yeah say i'll straight up till you're stupid platforming give platform and in here your reason. Why but i don't share the same enthusiasm for this year. The cow mcnair has now. Do i share the enthusiasm for laremy. Tunsil sure even whether i don't know what it is but i got a lot of enthusiasm for him. I got a ton of enthusiasm for watson. I got a ton of enthusiasm for a handful of players as the overall picture. There's nothing i mean. Nothing that's told me. That teams can't run the football and punish their defense. Now there's plenty. That's told me that the texans can throw the ball and score some points. But they're also they're run. Game blows to just run defense. The texans run game is putin in. Let's just take a look at the schedule ahead. They're gonna play teams. That are run the football. They have another match up against the titans. They're gonna play a patriots team that even if they're not good right now they can run the football. The browns can run the football. The if twin chubb and hunter. They're they're the best one two punch in a league. They play the colts twice. Who can run the football. This this not good i just i don't i'd listen. They'll win some games. They're not going to end up with one win but they're sure sitting answered there. Max a five win team but the optimism of a playoff team is just absurd and if he really is going to make decisions this is on keeping this team. Because i believe were a playoff team. Then he's doing his his people underneath him. Cow mcnair major disservice. This is why you can't have hope for their future. Correct right because he's not putting football people in charge of things. He's he wants to be butterflies and rainbows over there. I gotta you gotta do me a favor and higher. Good football guy. You go as a general manager you just have to. Who would look at him. as coach. i mean countless a coach and a general manager that will walk in his off. Listen here we're going to keep coaching our but off and we're going to keep doing everything looking at the waiver wire doing everything we can. But let's look forward realistic. Do you plan on paying full eighteen nine hundred dollars. He clearly does because he is optimistic of football. And if he doesn't if he does then you just throw your hands and say okay. Then we're gonna work what we got so this is what we're going with all right. Secondly if you look at the defense here the gentleman's and say what are we going to do to build assets. We are going right with the football team. We have here and if he's made if he's drawn a line in the sand then you're going to have to go with it but then then you can start to expect. Then what happens in the off season. When if we'll fuller walks or you franchise him and then you're saying do we. Can we play cooks or cob and maybe one or two of them are gone now. You're depleted your team without any without any of the calvary right cut cooks. You're going to get nothing in return. Johnson is going to be out. Yeah and find with the money but or my s- the scary part is maybe he decides that he should keep all these people thing go. We have no avenue to get letters. We've got to keep these players. Who believe okay. If he's he says. Now what would stop him from santa next year one. not saying. let's get to adrian adrian. What's happening outside arab. I really wanna hear from a quarterback right now and a guy who's played the game and I'm gonna sound like a real hater right now. But bear with me There's a lotta great young quarterbacks. Nfl right now. But i really get upset at a lot of people saying that. Lamar jackson is a top of quarterback. And i don't think he's even top team to be honest with you you know. I think he's probably the best athletes in the nfl or definitely top athlete. But he still has a long way to go as a thrower of the football I really think that dishonors better than him. I know a lot of people disagree with that. But i think the sean is better passer than lamar at this point in his career. He's better developed and they just want to hear your taking lamar jackson. I mean i know he's a great player on a long time to develop as a passer but what we saw yesterday against pittsburgh. I really think is you know. Obviously his weakness something he has to develop and i just wanna hear taking more jackson what he needs to do to get better as a quarterback adrian. Thanks for the call. I appreciate it. Listen i i think lamar jackson's top ten quarterback because he's such a playmaker he he he he is now. If you're just talking about pure throw more no not. There's ten better. There is now but part of playing. This position is finding a way to get your team to win and making plays. Now as i've said. I if you said sean right now for the next five years. Do you want lamar or does shawn shawn watson. I've said it. I'm not backing off that. And i know that lamar jackson's the reigning mvp. I think he's special. Listen no matter where you go any the experts who watched the texans love to shawn watson thank you holds the ball too long which i've been saying since he came into the league. There's a little hero worship. They're upset hero syndrome. Should i say. And and but i don't wanna coach spectacular out of him but that is that's become a bit of a say issue yet all the plays he makes it kind of offset. So i'm just like we talked about guy who throws picks but can overcome them to sean will take a few sacks that are unnecessary. Run himself into a few sacks but he's such a great playmaker that i'm going to learn to live with that or hope that he develops throw it out about. He just hasn't got to that point yet. He's still pretty infant in his career. I know people say that. Well he's been got all this money. Yes but it's still. he's in. The embassy had played his best football yet. Lamar jackson's a hell of a player. The quantum leaps from year one to year two from lamar jackson were nothing short of phenomenal. A may maybe the quantum leaps like. We're eye-popping but i've always said. I gotta see lamar jackson standing pocket. If i can take away as run and he's still good enough to make you. He made some plays set in the red zone. East the pressure from the right back corner throw. The ball came out so quickly just before he got hit. I mean it was spotted out touchdown. It was like whoa. That guy is spectacular. So he's got to be in the top ten. If you're just saying kenny lineup and throwing the ball you took away. The one threat which most teams don't seem to be able to do on a consistent basis steelers got a good defense. Lamar yes. I still got to see him. Stay in the pocket thirty times a game if you took away the run game for three weeks if anybody is able to do a role can he consistently beat you. You see mix some decisions. That are a bit suspect now. Last year didn't make many bad decisions. So i agree. I think lamar hell. I'm not just saying. I think he's a really good quarterback he's gonna to get better too as he develops his passing game. But if you're asking me right now. Sean build me a team. Would i take shawn watson. Over lamar jackson yes because at this stage of the game he is a more polished. Passer there is no question. The better football player. Right now debatable. But i'm they've built the offense perfect for lamar jackson in baltimore. Forty does but in order for them to get to another level. They're going to have to advance. And john harbaugh knows that he said it. Can we. can we beat man coverage oppressed when it's just him having to throw that'll be some decisions after. Be lamar jackson. Say great player. And i'm not playing the homework card because shawn watson i'm critical him some of the things he does. But if you said my life depends on the next five years at the quarterback position i think because of his ability to throw in this landscape a league were in. You gotta throw it. I because sean far off on a loose being able to be elusive and guys miss. Sean is closer to lamar's running. Then lamar is the schantz passing. Yeah and the more i know. He's walked up somewhat but he runs so much he's not the biggest guy in the world. I'm always afraid he's going to get just destroy me out for the year. Russ wilson is very smart. He's a very smart run where he gets to pockets and gets down at the right time. Right took a hit last. I trying to get down. But i i guess. So but yeah. He doesn't take many hits outside the pocket. So yeah i'm with you. I think lamar jackson's far better at this stage. Nobody thought he's going gonna be the mvp two years in nobody but he's really advanced and it's scary to think if he advances from that two years from now but right now. I think the shawn watson a quarterback that lamar jackson is even the mars arraigning. Mvp because there's so many things you can do and baltimore a far better football team than this one. We have here. Here's ask sports talk. Seven ninety shown sows berry show. What my computer career man. Is that where i'm at right now. I believe it is yet my computer career. Mike computer career dot edu. Hey it's not healthy stressing about work. Maybe you're out of work or you're not getting enough hours at your job. Well let's stop. Hit the reset button. Start your new life as an information technology professional as little as four months from the comfort of your own home even if you have zero computer experience why are you waiting till to say well. When life gets back to normal could be a day could be a month could be a year. 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Give me a top five quarterbacks that you want for the next three years right now five to one from five to one the next three years take all the home dishes from what you watch and see. And i don't care what level they're at you might say. There's a high school quarterback that is a senior that in three years from now i watched the play at southlake carroll. And he's really good or katy high school bingo. But gimme your five. I'm saying three years for the next three years because that brings in maybe brings brady to play right. Might bring it well. I think he's playing until he's forty five at this rate. Looks like he's in a play until he can't blame right. So that gives you forty three forty four and then play when you're forty five and be done right. Hell if he's planted a high level and loving it. Who the hell knows if he didn't plan which is frightening to think about but imagine you're playing in tampa bay for like seven years gays forty nine. He's still playing at tampa beards. Not goatee still not gray over there. Yelling and get off the field. You're supposed to quit by now. Tom get your asshole. Brian all right so number. Five josh number five. I would probably go to sean k four and it's only for this three year stretch on to worry about the future. Afterwards years aaron rodgers would it. This would change if i said seven years right. One hundred percent hundred percent aired rogers right now three. I mean i know my top two for sure three. I think i'd want salem ore but like you said i believe in watson over the longer term but right now i think i'd go lamar three okay and remember. This is any team is forget the team. This is just for your team too. Because of course. I'd take them over to sean now because the baltimore ravens in the texans exactly to russell wilson one patty moms to russell wilson. One mahomes cake. Because he i think about this. I said well how would lamar's fortunes be here. He probably make some plays with his feet. They wouldn't pass the ball as well. And how does this year he'd be our does shawn be there. Well what would happen. As gregg roman wouldn't wouldn't put as much a read option on the edge. He'd mix in a little bit but they throw the ball from the pocket more so that they do. I think the records would be equal meeting. If baltimore's a super bowl caliber team with lamar. Would they be superbowl caliber with the sean absolutely. Would i think that this team. Maybe he walks out of a little trouble in there too and six as opposed to one six five. Maybe there's still. There's still not a playoff team. If he came here with this current ross matter of fact their offense would be a little less than the passing game. More on the run game because lamar's full on right so and yet the texas may be stubborn enough. They wouldn't in the proper place for lamar so they've struggled unlike baltimore. Said no we're gonna adjust him and it's worked for them okay. So you go. Mahomes wilson lamar rogers and the shaun. And yeah and if the only way i wouldn't change at all would be. Maybe lamar for watson few was just strictly throw in our didn't think that he was going to be able to go to a different offense and fit that scheme. Go a little lower but you get to put in any school putting around three. This is just three years okay. A seven or eight years. The guy clemson would already. I'd have him in there. I would if i if you said over the next decade or seven years plus i would actually say trevor lawrence. I'd want him on there. Because i think a lot of people. If he's that good that'd be the only college right now. I would put in the mix all right so go ahead five to one. People will think it's crazy. You mentioned him but for three years. That's a in their five brady. Okay it's crazy. I'm having a hard time deciding on that. That choice put watson at four rogers. Three wilson at two in mahomes homes of one. So you leave lamar out. Yeah i'm not taking it before. I like lamar jackson. He completely threw me wrong he. He came in the league and got better after his first year and was incredible. He has definitely had a more difficult time this season but i don't think he's like off all the fun. I just don't think that he's better than any of those five quarterback right now right for me and i'll tell you name if we extend it again a couple more years i think kyle murray would jump into my thought process. I do think he's going to be that good borough or herbert. We're also man three years they can be kinda. Wanna put borough in the when. I say this people are gonna go nuts. But their game from burroughs ability to run the pocket presence reminds me of brady tall body accurate they load. They throw the shallow cross. I mean all those things and neither one of them will ever nope. We didn't put the matt stafford. George type arm with with brady or burl. So they're efficient with their skillset. Boroughs better feet brady in the pocket boroughs manipulation. The pockets fabulous but i- burroughs. One of those guys talk to me in a year or two. Let me see. Because i can't get over the cincinnati thing yet but if it's my offense like dama put joe brady's offense in bring joe brady with me right. I would have to say watson is in my top five. Let me start the other way just for me. Because i'm trying to get my bearings straight mahomes one. Next three years will matter of fact. I'm a flip next three years. I'm not so sure. I wouldn't put wilson one mahomes to either way six and one half dozen the other. I'd have to have aaron rodgers for the next three years. No question about it. Watson fits in my top five either fourth or fifth depending on who and for me honestly it would have to come down to to to brady and lamar jackson one of the two and just because i still can't fathom guy plan this good at forty five. You give them weapons he. He's different player. Probably gonna say because of the passing ability. Lamar mix creates so much problem. But i i. Probably if i can have a taibbi those two. I'd probably put to four and tom brady five. But i'd have a hard time leaving. Lamar gimme give give me brady six. I'll put lamar at five. I have to i. I just his playmaking skills but then i got brady winning the super bowl here this year and the tough thing with mars. You don't know how great he would be with elite wide receiver. Scott he has good receivers brownstein. But there's no out brady would be would not what we saw. Time was when it wasn't elite receivers last year on a league team. i just. maybe. I'm see i'm trying to stay away from my bias for brady because been so good for so long. And i'm thinking can he be this good at forty four can be good at forty five. I know lamar gonna get about. I'd probably say lamar because of his ability to extend plays and then i'd put i'd put brady right right by but if you said are you gonna win more games with. I'd say what can win a lot against brady. We left off breeze. Because i don't think i think this is. His last year says rivers last year in those. I can't put those two guys on the outskirts cuyler The it for the next three years. I'm talking about lawrence borough that group of guys. I know it's nuts. I know the lawrence probably going to be great. I just can't take guys that i get it. I get it if it was my team. Remember yeah right. I get it. Yeah been been big. Ben may have three more years on him too. So there's some really good players were pretty top heavy in the league and take about some of the names. We left out but we're pretty good. Put it this way for those dudes are a no brainer for me. It's like five to seven. That are the toughest wants to put in what i'm thinking. Can they stay healthy. Yeah and do they have it in because and then you look at the young guy and say we'll have the experience in january that he could get me over the top like brady would so interesting conversation. I think we all agree. That the top two are no brain. Also finding pat and russ those are always interchangeable also have been find weird slash carson. Wentz amit ryan who were both looked to being one was in. Vp future league that year. He doesn't get hurt in december and full stakes over exactly and it's just like these guys two years later. They still seemed good but they're just not what they were. That quick and carson's fallen. We're gonna play people around him. But you know what we always ask our quarterback style of eight. He's got play veteran. Matt ryan's get into the point. He needs to be on a team. That's got some defense because while he can put up numbers. I don't know how many more hits not enough numbers this. Yeah that's exactly right. And he's got he's got receivers. I actually his role numbers. Look okay but you watch this individual games. Yeah and atlanta's going to score problem is. They can't clothes anybody out for the most part sports. Talk seven ninety sean. Southborough i sean. Salisbury show continues. He is about the welcome in here. Our number four trenches in about thirty minutes if we had a first round pick. Would you guys look at this. Different diseases trade deadline. No not really. I think that you need to. I think it would be a little bit different. I would say that to me. Wolf would still be screaming. He needs to be traded to me but yet they had a first round pick. Now that this season would be easier to stomach. Now if i could tell you this fight said listen okay. Here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna trade willfuller for a second round or we're going to get a fourth for mercilus and we had a first round pick next year. Would you start to say this looks pretty good. Yeah it's record was the same that it seemed like all right. Well that's the perfect way to get this right because you would be picking right now. The top five in the league right and you can get a really good player in the top five so you start to think about impact your fig about that. How just a couple of players changed a complete outlook of your franchise and that would be getting away. And would the scenario. I just gave you two is getting rid of two starters Matter of fact. Probably will aside from your. Mvp this year. That's been watson willful. There's probably your offensive player of the year. Not named watson right on a seventy catch thousand yard season. Eight to ten touchdown catches. He's your best offensive player fails so it's fuller fuller all right. So and then mercilus aside. From what i guess has been your most productive front seven guy when it comes to at least the morning on the perceived guy that we need to get to the quarterback right. Yeah but i feel like i can replace value in that second round real easy for the cheap right and get a fourth or fifth rounder for and get somebody else that had other position agreed and then you hope that the two guys they drafted on the defensive front of better next year you hope that cunningham learn how to cover a better cunningham gets back into his own and then you could possibly address another secondary helper address. If you didn't have wheelers money or mercer money on the books you get two rookies. You may be able to go out and get a franchise. And when i say franchise a guy who can come in and and help your defense on a free agent market type i just. I'm i'm going through all and here's the sad part the dolls it is. What if it doesn't matter you don't have the first round pick unless you're willing to part with somebody to get the first round. Pick back and the only two guys on the roster that would get it. Play quarterback tackling. You pay them both this offseason and you ain't trade them so most there's will wrap your would change your optimism about the franchise. I wouldn't what do you think now about the tonsil trade whether they gave up the price. Listen i can remember all the complaining that the city did and we all did about their offensive line. You need an anchor and there's always that guy to build on but here's the problem. He's been good the other four. Haven't they've been average. Guys get walked back into the quarterback and so guess what is good as tunsil is. The impact isn't felt as much because the rest of the guys are just average. They don't run the ball. Well and to. Sean could help them a little more by throw. He needs to get in his mind if there is a perceived weakness or a real reality the ball out quicker just and they can help them with playcalling but he's got also know that my built in time clock. This is just this is who it is today that they gotta be gotta be a bit better protection wise and we've got to be far better in the runoff. Run game offense to of pushing people round. Creating a new line of scrimmage see. That's the problem with this. Because i tell people all the time it's the it's the continuity of the offensive line people talk about. Oh timing and being on the same page. I need those five guys on the same page even more than i do the quarterback and receiver cause a row to row to row to either catching you finish and then you start to eight years and get a feel for a guy like hopkins and watson brady and element whatever you get a brady and gronkowski. You get a feel for that guy but the truth matters. I say run. A twelve yard curler shuttle crosser. It's a shell across her. You run it four yards and run the mesh fashanu across four yards. Kay how you catch. It's up to you. How throw it's up to me and my trust for you but the offensive line continuity and even if three guys are really good if the other two are not doing their job you're going to have breakdowns so that's the problem if tunsil now if you remember in the cowboys are at their best would they. All five of those guys. Three pro bowlers. And how do you know everybody's they did whatever they want. But start to toronto smith. If he's out next thing. You know. Travis frederick you start to. Dr frederick is done with football retires. It's like oh so different right. They're not the same yet. They're they're decent. But you get my point and so here is good as tons list. So what i do it over again. I would've tried to milk not having to give up that second first round pick. I'm looking at a mock draft right now. In are the texans pick as the dolphins pick has the dolphins choosing panini. Sewell from oregon. The offense lineman he could be great and could be better than sun-sil but you still don't know so right now. The texans should be this is who we could have got but we know will be the biggest issue of looking back on. It is that they had just taken titus power in the first round and even those later in the first round you take the tackle on the first round and you think that's my do right. Well here's the deal. And then they kept telling you at the draft time that versatile he could anywhere online they. They didn't know where the hell is going to play. And here's the deal with that too tight howard's got to elevate its now now when we hit the year three didn't hit the your three. It's time right. He's played better years on this. Gotten they did great out very well the guy but but he seems to getting a better idea right when i watch him his feet and the rest of better idea. I still think a lot of these guys. You know they're thinking. Who do i got. And they don't get to react tonsils at the point. Is that he so his feet and his hands are so good. He's athletically just better. Yes and then. You put good technique on there and we'll how you gotta start the key is you can't miss on first round linemen. That's the problem. So the question is as titus our going to be a first round at decent player or could he have been a second or third round decent player. He probably wouldn't last that long. So you gotta give it a chance to develop if he does then then you can build. Now we've got the outside sewn up now we gotta continue to mac scharping where you're going. You know what i mean. So that's the one position you can have one bell cow stud but if four guys aren't on if they're not all working in unison and doing their thing the you're gonna suffer because i know this i if i'm defensive coordinator like i would a quarterback. Stay away from a great corner honest. Move my best players to a position your week. Just right. I mean i'm just not gonna offer my third best russia on that guy. You can neutralize him all you want but my other guys are gonna make your other guys pay that. That's how i do it. So yeah they gotta get better there and it'd be cool if they had a number one pick tattoo but the price to get it and the reason with to answer your question among all this. Mc is that. I we complain and complain it so we went out and got him. Did they pay a price. Yeah i mean. I back end up winning the trade because the dolphins are gonna love it. I think that they always win it. I mean it's hard to because it is keep going back to it they. They were the desk. The texans were the desperate team. The guy that was making the call bill and your way too because it was right before the season started. If you wanted to go trade for somebody you do that months before to where you're not having to give up to ones and twos the dolphins we're going to go into the season with tons of playing and we're completely fine with him staying there and they knew that there was it'd be and then. They found the text desperate. Yeah protecting a franchise quarterback so they're able to get what they wanted yet. It's tough because you anticipate to number one picture. Going to be very impactful on your franchise right and i think tonsils making an impact. The problem is the other four guys. They're going to have to get better for us to feel the real impact tunsil. Because while he's sony he can only do his thing. The problem is we still judge offensive line by all production. You know what. I mean as a six first success for football team Excuse me excuse me. It's a heavy price to pay to first rounders for and then you knew you were going to have to make highest paid tax on a league right when you go out there and just spend money on free agent. You had no choice sports. Talk seven hundred. More sean salisbury. Get in strapping and writer. Sports talk seven ninety the only thing about the fresh prince of bel-air. Did you like that. Show yeah love. that show. didn't watch live. I'm just watching the reruns. You ever see it. Yes it was on. It was on Upn or cw. One of those two. When i was growing all he gets on. Tv to dub watch my twenty or whatever every day for family feud steve harvey's is absolutely hand. Richard dawson both. Were richard dawson. The original announced steve. Harvey's been great. Hey do you think they're calling daryl morey d-mo in now especially after. He was one of his biggest pet projects. That failed was denied his mighty. Yeah so you can't call dima right. Did he fail he ever signed him. He didn't live up to the hype that was surrounding. He looked like he was going to be. I don't get me going. Oh no we. I've the liner. We share the same birthday. Say so they're not com. Dima though like t law dean there was a demo liner talk. Find that say. I've of of of awake. You know what i did. I woke up the echo and not as multi units. He's now planning the chinese like nice. Nice bruce what's up man how you doing. Hey sean you know. Listen to you guys talking about The draft and houston gave up. I had a question for you if if dallas ends up with a number two pick which. I'm hoping they do I'd like number one. Obviously get a chance at lawrence. But i just don't see the jets win in the game but my question is is if you end up with a number two pick were dallas a wise too. I mean. I guess what justin field ohio state quarterback. He's the next he has been. He is widely considered the second best quarterback or player in this draft. Yes all right. Well would you take him and you know finding for the you know four or five years on the cheap and a sign and trade with iraq or would you. Dallas defense is terrible. Would you tray down of that pick and you know maybe four or five spots another quarterback hungry team and and do what did the used it you know. Maybe get their slop and maybe a second and the number one if possible but anyway bruce. That's a great question. Answer that for you. And i thank you Thank you for the highlights. To grab your point you to bruce. I i love the question. I'll tell you this. If it was me first of all i'm signing prescott period i'm signing prescott and paying him and should i'm with you. I would never consider. Not i would sign dak prescott semi i would trade down and get out. That's stock i. Would i would. There's going to be plenty of teams. Maybe like washington jacksonville. We know the jets who knows. The giants may already be right for who knows. You'd never. I don't think that the cowboys will end up at the second. Pick unless they play. This guy quarterback bryce the year could have and great and depending on the dalton. Which i don't either but if they are and you're gonna get a bunch of people that want to get up that slot now unless unless you're in the second to hold you see a player that is so good. They can change your defensive player. Yeah you say. I got to have him and you ought to say gotta have him then you you stay there and grab him but if somebody comes up and says we'll switch with you we'll give you a one and a later one or one and a two and a four to one of three to get that spot you out you go get the other player because you'll get it good depending on where that one is obviously and you trade because there's going to be people standing in line for justin fields. I tr- i assure you to get to that spot. And yes i would if i'm the cowboys unless there's a player that you cannot like for instance washington this year. We'll my guy from a house town's name haskins yet. No chesterfield's the defensive. Pass rusher good guy chase young unless there's a guy that you feel like that. Yeah you're like you're either gonna offer me the world or i'm not getting out of the slot then you you take that guy but if you don't think that guy's there that you can get kind of a guy that's close to that guy six six later five pitch later whatever it is and add a first second third whatever it is to get there because somebody craves justin fields do it but the beginning of this and i am a great question. I'm signing prescot. I'm with you jack prescott a good player and there's bound gels justin fields now. Fields is a big strong monster. But am i gonna win more with justin fields in year. One that i am with prescott in paying him too and i have right. There's a lot of put it this way. There's far more needs now. Tell you this is. Somebody came up to me and said we'll give you a late number one or number two and a four or two and three for for zeke elliott trade it in a sound without a doubt that fast trade him for three of them just to get rid of the travel trade traded. Because i got news for when all said and done. I can go to and fourteen with zeke elliot and i'm not doing if prescott s- healthy and i get a draft. Pick a high draft. Pick a defense and short the defense up. You should go then. But they'll be the aberration. Sean that's right. You shouldn't be right. These are the aberrations. these are the outliers. Not the norm. Good quarterbacks just and they're not gonna lose they're not gonna only won one game. The texans are going to win four five games this year. So it's hard to go to and fourteen with a really really good quarterback just is but if you're defenses bad as a texas and the cowboys both these teams are in this position but to me prescott. He's not problem. No and i'm not saying zeke elliott's prominent you offered me a second round. Pick her straight up for a second. And fourth for zeke elliott. Tomorrow i have no problem trade them. They should be looking to. I would not have justin feels. I think is going to be really good. I already got that guy. I already got blown away from it. For a non guarantee one hundred percent. I'm sticking with prescott. I wouldn't like all the stuff that the debate and sean going here get. Da move onto the sean and trying no now. You haven't established guy who's young and great. You don't move on from. It would move on from what i would have to the exact cause there was no submit. There's no guarantee that anybody brings going. There's no guarantee that. Trevor lawrence led us. It'd be better that's exactly right. So if i got that guy tradenet guy. And i think the cowboys have while he may not be watson. He's he's still a big time player when he's helped us hopton league. I couldn't agree more. I've been singing his praises for a long time. The cowboys got far more needs. And if you could. But if i was in the two hole they played this year and they they were that bad. I have zero problem. Trading down to picks a first rounder and let somebody else crave justin field. I need all defense completely. Showed up and play but did they show and play defense yesterday or was that the eagles is being terrible. The you'd think. How can the eagles not hang. Forty and bad in the cowboys are worse. The eagles skills are gonna win this division. It's not even that eagles. Don't you'd have that great of a defense but because the cowboys offense is so bad right now. They carried them in that game in cash. It's such a bad watch. Think like to less passing yards than juliet. He threw two picks and is going to play himself out of there. If if this keeps up. I don't care what kind of weapons he has. He's playing itself out which is crazy because as we've said two years ago one of the hottest commodities in the league. Yeah i mean. I've had him as a matter of fact i believe. Nfl players top one had him in the top. Ten or so in the top. Fifteen is just hot that hype train and had one great year. He's he's he's he should be better. Let's put it that way. Yeah that makes sense. Should be better. The trenches. Up next with chris gordian followed by the thomas show with ross and then the team this afternoon for josh and embassy. I'm sean we don't ever take you for granted. We love our monday and well all day. And we'll see if there's any trades made it doesn't look from comic near standpoint that they're going to move anything big or anything worthwhile but we'll see we will keep an eye on it. Sometimes people talk their way in or out of something. We'll see if somebody can convince the texans to make a move and they got the jacksonville jaguars this week. 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The Salisbury Stakeout 11-13-20

The Sean Salisbury Show

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The Salisbury Stakeout 11-13-20

"Yeah sean woody here. Not there now. The cells stakeout takeout. On the sean salisbury. Show all right. Let's take it out peeps right and Find out what's going on and you probably have a questions on bernhardt longer. Nope the if i can answer them And and take you where you wanna go with bernhard but It is sports talk. Seven is take it out. Mc let's go there first Major league baseball is doing a great job. Making sure people pay attention to the word season that they have going on last night. They named the mvp's of both leagues in l. A l Jose abreu the white sox takes home in the american league. His first and another first baseman in the national league specs of the nineties. We go freeman for the atlanta braves. Taking it there did they. Did the voters get it right with these two winning the mvp. For both leagues. I do. I think so. I do just like they did. What the day before when bieber in the last couple of days. Shane bieber was a unanimous. I think choice to win the cy. Young and the american league and Trevor bauer was ashley league winner. I think they got these four awards. All right in the mvp do you back and forth. They had cup of people in the mixed throughout. I think louis robert. Didn't he finish second. The american league rookie of the year voting gives the american league rookie. Voting was the only one i had an issue with because both robert alu- how were terrible in the last month of the season mean like horrible. It was a three month season in one of their money was horrible and i was. I didn't think heavier would win it. But he deserved better. Third place vote because he was consistent all year long. And so there you have haven't and louis ended up winning. So yeah i do. I freddie freeman. I'm sorry yeah. Freddie freeman had a a really really good year and both for spaceman did so. I don't have any you know. Sometimes you go in and say oh. My gosh how can they. How could that happen. I don't think quite frankly. There's winner of the cy young winner the mvp. Freddie freeman had a hell of a run this season a bray did it all at the plate for them as well. So yeah no. I'm okay with both Both win both first baseman and say actually had a good post about the history of first baseman in chicago at the with socks. Been pretty impressive over the years with frank. Thomas and and polka narco. They've had some pretty good ones and now this tops it off with an mvp. Award and freddie freeman freddie freeman. Good guy deserved hell of a year. I have no problem with either one. I thought matter of fact. It's easy for me to make the argument that That they both deserved it. I completely agree that they got it right. I was expecting the nationally though to give it to vets. And it's all right. They're just going to give the right. I think they made the right move was the pair. Yep no doubt about all right. Josh ago whitney mercilus was just on gidwani football in. I'll just play what he had to say real quick. Yeah for sure definitely. There's nobody who's in hearings even given up or or anything like that Guys want to compete still Definitely win nobody likes lose. We don't go into these games lose and all that so I don't think our Record reflects the type of team that we have. I mean boston. Close games And capitalizing certain situations in some of these games earlier in the year so We just got a really just Fine tune and Be better down this last stretch. So do you believe whitney mercilus. When he says nobody in the locker building has given up on the season for the houston texans. I do believe that. I do believe i think i think when you're what are they. Let's see two when you're eight games in i don't. I don't believe that the players checked out yet. I think it's that would be such a character. Flaw to check out. So i i don't i don't disagree with him. Did they have not given up on the season with their players. Don't where i do disagree when he said we've lost a couple of close games and you know our record doesn't reflect ties the type of team we are yet it actually does and he says You know a couple of close games and you know recently. And we're getting their defense. Is i mean. I can tell you this. If you just want to speak for his defense they may not have get up. Get up on the season but at times they play like it So no i don't think they've given up like they go into the week and we he's right. Nobody wants to go in the week losing. But they're not close defensively when they're not close so that's a that's a that's just flat out wrong and i and i'm quitting versus a great deal. I think he's good player but they're not close defensively and they're not the type of this is a record as reflect who we are. When are we and don't when he says we're we you know being a good team. Don't good teams win. Some of those games that they that they haven't won exact lawson closed. If they don't win they haven't they don't win the close games. They beat jacksonville twice. So i understand this part of the narrative and part of the coachspeak in player speak. That goes with it. But i do agree with him that they haven't quit on the season. I don't believe they have too early now. If you're asking me this question there too and ten being maybe having different conversation their golf clubs will be in the trunk. So i don't disagree with them on that but i Their record move perfectly reflects who they are and the reason. They're not a good team. They can't stop anybody defensively and they don't win close games. They get beat in all games. That aren't against. That aren't against a bad team this year. So two and six is exactly they are and for about to find out at the defense can make us stop this week because if they you know this is what. You may not like the cleveland's but they do have some explosive offensive players on their team. So i agree with part of a statement but i disagree that their a good team. They're not a good team and they don't play good defense at all. He says they played a bunch of close games. Three games have been one score or less but one of those includes eight points but they lost the title in overtime two weeks ago. Now yeah three games ago. Now outside of that there. Other close games or the steelers and vikings both of those games. I kind of felt like they were really that close at. You could tell me the better team was most of the game right. And i like i said if you're good team you will you win one of those six right. If you're a good team win one of them so no you're exactly the you're exactly who you are and quite frankly baltimore's been susceptible to a few things i mean they've they've changed the way people changing the way they defense against the pittsburgh while eight no They know haven't exactly been hasn't had the ben rothlisberger three hundred and forty yards a week. Type run that he. We've known him to get on. I mean th th the minnesota. Vikings are running the football but they got a lot of flaws so no good teams win a few of those close games and they haven't won six of them so they got a to go but no. I don't believe they've quit on the season alright. Mc guy. i think Yeah philip rivers last night passes damn reno for fifth in yards. Is it a lock to philip. Rivers is a hall of famer to you. Yeah first ballot. But he's making his numbers his numbers. We are numbers driven football especially at that position and nobody with his numbers isn't in the hall of fame. There's no quarterback with his numbers that isn't is not to my knowledge at the top of my head. That isn't in a hall of fame but like dan marino. He's gonna leave his career without a super bowl. they're not. They're not winning one in indianapolis this year. Now they're good enough to get to the playoffs. But i don't know if their offense quite frankly if they have to throw it if you shut them down or in a close game or or in a shootout i don't know if they can keep up with some of these other teams in bad weather With inclement weather with with philips unless he can set his feet perfectly. And everything's fine. I love the way. That dude competes. But now i don't believe for a second that i don't think he's gonna win a super bowl so he's going to be that guy that is going to get the hall of fame and put put a mustard colored jacket on without a without a That a ring on his finger. But i do the numbers. Don't what i say guarantee. I guess we say as an equivocally. No questions asked all of famer them. Then we'd say well does that mean first ballot. I don't believe we're going to buy in when we're all said say i can't believe philip rivers didn't make it plus. I think the media likes him and that it it helps. I think people like philip rivers. And i think the media you know. He's a very affable guy and people in he's a competitive and he's he's filled with energy and he's been durable and he's a good guy and he's a hell of a football player. Yes i think he's gonna get in without a super bowl ring and it'll be three or four down the road that the numbers will be overwhelming His statistics will say he's a hall of famer and he'll get him. Yeah he's fifth in passing yards right now and six in passing. Td's have guys like brett. Farr peyton manning. Tom brady drew brees in in Touchdown passes marino's head of him currently every every every single one of them's a first ballot hall of famer that are in front of him. No question every single one of them so he's getting in I don't believe you'll get in on the first ballot. But i do believe he'll get in all right. It's a sports talk. Seven ninety sean south reshow.

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2019 Week 5 Preview

Around the NFL

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2019 Week 5 Preview

"Round with the NFL cast wants the giants to go all the way welcome lead to another edition of the around the NFL podcast. My name is Dan has this. I'm joined in the room. That's built with heroes. Mark Cecil Chris Wesseling Greg Roosevelt. What does that boy voice? Hey Dan has gone down with wanting the giants to go. Yeah well never forget two seasons ago. I almost correctly predicted the giants in the chargers to square off in the Super Bowl. The giants proceeded to go about three and thirteen with a human disaster known as Eli Manning the human disaster seems like a nice on Field Miss yes. We all remember that mark we have here. We are weak five already in like what seventy two plus twenty four ninety seven ninety two sir ninety six hours or so we will be on a plane to London but right now our mind is strictly focused on the action ahead in week five a little later tonight you're going to get rams seahawks recap from me and the Sizzler from Hans manner I believe my friend Bob demanded if we'RE GONNA use the throwback equipment for these late night hits hits that it has to be called the throwback podcast studio that was I'm sure it was hard to twist your arm within the first minute of the show to get the name of your other podcasts in and then it will happen another another seven or eight times on our separate Thursday night. Show is well. Well people are asking whatever happened to the heat and light podcast. Where is your vanity project we were splitting Parsi fate my my my partner a lot works at a different company and he wasn't an NFL property it was on before he left the actual the technology platform that we use to to do it melted down? It was a startup of sorts in it up starting up so there went the show but you got to overcome those things I'm sure there was another startup that launched in its place yeah it was called Connors Child and the like my two children becoming more you know I don't I don't need. I don't need a second project and the third project I feel perfectly happy with this one all right or focus on this show. I like that all right so yes you got that going on but now we're gonNA focus on the rest of the week five matchups and again thirty two things there are those games on by those things are previewed Tuesday twenty eight teams to fourteen teams games some barriers to good week about like this about five bangers and some lesser ones but the same jeans are concentrated in the same game. There is the by weeks get. There's more teams by next week. Plus Dolphins are on a by so that's that's nice. That's good so we're GONNA do a draft as we do every week here and mark we've gone around the Horn and back to you now with the the first overall pick don't Eric Fisher it. Well you know I was lambasted for picking Jaguars broncos LAS in it ended up being a fantastic game and continues to do use my human senses that completely ignore this mass think. I don't really care what you guys think about my pick my number number one pick is a showdown between two expansion teams from Nineteen ninety-six and I could not be more excited to watch this match up between between the Jaguars and the Carolina Panthers Two quarterbacks that I've been interested in two very resilient teams. I love both of these clubs obviously lost their starting quarterbacks and you could've easily written off the Jaguars. You could have written off the panthers with two weeks ago when they got knocked off by the buccaneers. We were watching this at West this house. I thought the Panthers Authors and Their coaching staff were kaput but two weeks later three weeks later they look good and I cannot detach myself from the experience of Gardner Men's shoe but not just him as the Jaguars quarterback but really the way. They won that game in Denver on the road. I don't care if the broncos are eight. That's a tough place to go. Assuming people still fill fill the stadium. They were down seventeen to three and the broncos game they were their season on the line had set the table seventeen gene to three against the Jaguars had they wanted him the Jaguars for like Oh for six on third downs to open the game they were. They were gets five sacks on Gardner. Menchu is getting tossed and turned they come out of halftime after a big Joe flacco interception and absolutely ground the broncos into dust with Leonard fournette emerging from total a wall status they tired out that defense on the road and it set up Gardner Menchu's final drive and he did some things on that on that drive in and other drives in that game that our next level he showed up at number one on Daniel Jeremiah's rookie ranking so far Dan. I know that's not an article you will read but it is an important article if you're tracking checking rookies and I cannot what to say what how Carolina's defense in Carolina tries to deal with Gardner Minhsiu and Leonard Fournette can play the way he's still playing and on the the other side of the ball you have an MVP candidate in Christian McCaffrey so there's lots of like in this game I think I I don't know how bad Jalen Ramsey's back injury is. I been pretty quiet on the issue but he's got loose face here. If he's healthy he's wanted he's embraced by the organization. His teammates are coming through. They have played exciting games the last two weeks they're winning. Come on man play football team. Come back and play football should be noted that part of that comeback against the Jaguars last week by the Broncos was that Jalen Ramsey's replacement was getting roasted in that game and target on his back and maybe this is a real back injury Jalen Ramsey but I really like but I don't think it is and I I really like shod con coming out on Wednesday the Jaguars owner telling the Associated Press It's the best thing for the Jaguars to hold onto jalen Ramsey read a little bit of his quote obviously football's a team sport and I'm sensitive to what individual insider viewpoint or request there might be but we have to do the right thing for the team we value the value that Jalen adds to us us to the Jaguars. I think we value highly and we'll see there is and we're going to get to another player a little bit later in the show on the Vikings that that is unhappy and looking to play his way or not play his way out of town and I think if Jalen Ramsey is truly hurt. He's truly hurt if he's not. It's a disgrace that he's not playing right now. It's the word what kind of teammate would do this. I it's way on my radar royal my radar and has been since day one I every player on some level plays. He's through injury so maybe it something where you're not playing who knows even trying to guess like his level of injury. When it comes to back is is tricky Turkey but I think it was smarter shots? Here's a report from Jason Lockenfora that they turn down two first round picks Jalen Ramsey so what's the harm and if earshot connor what's the rush to the trade deadline's a month away euro. It's only in a world where this is still a problem three weeks from now the trade trade offers are only going to get better and you don't have to take them but you can listen. I mean if they start getting really wild. Maybe it becomes a Laremy Tunsil situation where you have to take get but they need him this week because they're playing another good rick. second year quarterback came out of nowhere kyle and passes the test. I think him and Gardner meant you pass the eye test think if they played their first two games kyle in the second year player but if you know if Baker Mayfield there Sam darnold played like this for their first two games a year ago everyone would be going crazy. Kyle Allen Really I think has the tools and can make every throw and he's shown that he's had a fumbling problem that needs to be fixed but but I look at him and he looks legit doesn't seem like a fluke. One of those fumbles came off. Jj Watt getting pushed away from Kyle and puts the armone does something only jj watt can do an almost any quarterback lost the ball in that situation but that's the dementia has also been extremely safe with the football and that verdict Jaguars team I mean it's been invaluable valuable with while throwing in a few nice deep throws but this is the toughest game for him on the slate so far their fourth in the League de Vito a pass defense or something in that Carolina Linux Saas with between Buffalo and the panthers with that scheme that they have that they're better as a group than they really are individually Shack Thompson their linebackers plane clean out of his mind right now Rivera's big move to suddenly go to a three four after seven years is looking great they lose Kahlon short for the year and they're still playing fantastic very tough one Rivera Varallo coaching their seventy-six years from now as an extremely old individual big tests for Carolina secondary against Dj Charq who has made the leap and is starting into give off Jordy Nelson Vibes boundary boundary receiver. Let us move on a battle of winless teams in Cincinnati the Arizona car. I got caught up in the old style but you know what I reminded us. How much how much better this new style good raft draft the cardinals bangles? Who's WHO's in the draft all right so there you go okay? Take the bengals cardinals now okay. I'm not gonNA that's fat. I I will take the the Buchan ears sucker suit for Greg Roosevelt today by the way to New Orleans. We have that conversation right now. I don't think it's seersucker so you got a side officially initially but it looks like that I'm not GonNa Argue the point anymore. had a German roommate when I lived in Hollywood ten years ago that was auditioning for a role he was aspiring actor and he was told by his manager. You need to work on your American accent and he's like all right. Okay 'cause it was very thick German accent so he would go into his room for hours at a time working on his accent and the day before his big audition he comes out of the room after hours of studying being and we're like you ready for this and he's like yeah is like you want to run the lines that you're GonNa have to read and like okay okay and then the first thing on his mouth was yes. I'm here wearing my seersucker suit like oh dot. I just that does sound like a mid Western man. We try to let it. We told me it was great. very sky like them. He did not get the role but that's the that's the Hollywood Hollywood. Wait people telling you that they're great. You're great and it was just. I don't know why that's the way climb. Why is he pretty closely? In like a ten out of ten male looks while you're getting that role he was he was very good looking guy and he was the role was this a man walked around telling people about it. The the point wait was we could have been honest with sterile but there was nothing he was going to be able to do. He was going to go to that fine morning. Yeah you don't want to build them up. Fail the audition and then go back to Germany honey which is what he did eventually hard lessons in Hollywood all right well Greg's wearing a soccer suit up speaking of overseas. The buccaneers are going to be headed to London next week back with us and we're GONNA be watching the battle of first place after Kyle Allen Ends Minzhu Mania and after James Winston goes to New Orleans and gets so nice little road upset in a game where I don't think either team's going to be able to run the ball very much the buccaneers of the best run defense in the League right now two point nine yards per time you can see it when when you you see the front line. They're going to be tough to run against which passing game do you trust more. It's weird to trust Jameis Winston but I'm taking the guy with Chris Godwin and Mike Evans both on on pace for over fourteen hundred and fifty yards right now and I'm not trusting saints offense that has been under three hundred yards three straight weeks. You can't can't keep winning games like that. I like the Bucks I re watched the Saints Cowboys and had a really appreciation for how good the cowboys defense was absolutely and how bridgewater through better than I expected. He threw pretty well as placement was good and it's tough to win in New Orleans. I've picked against him two weeks in a row and I'm not the one of the third week I I wrote upset special at the top of this because after watching the bucks against the rams and it wasn't perfect I thought Chris Godwin produced one of the Better Wide Receiver Showings of the entire year I think he can do everything and Bruce Arians talk them up and fantasy heads went nuts over and it's one of the Times is when it's actually it it played out against the rams. Entirely the Saints Front seven is their line is so nasty. I don't think that you even try to run the bucks. Remind me a a little bit of when we talk about like an air raid type attack they were doing some of that against. La Lake to the point where I don't want to I'm not going to call the cardinals air raid over what the bucks do when they go all out with their passing game and they've got better weapons than almost any team in the league when you WanNa go wide receiver wide or San Juan when they need a run Ronald Title Jones looking pretty good. You know he's Great. He's making people miss may good matchup outplayed the two thousand seventeen offensive player of the year and last week's game I guess thinking about Teddy Bridgewater so far I think he was. I think he was better last week but here's the reality yes. He did his job. He's he's a really good back. He's a really good backup quarterback. I don't think he has the same feel for the position that he had when he was in Minnesota to me. That was his best quality kind of his resonate nowhere to go with the ball feel in the pocket feel a pressure on them he he doesn't have that right now like a like a late career Alex Smith at his best and I and yeah I don't think that he has that right now. I mean every quarterback sacrificing something in some way and he's sacrificing scrambling ability and trying to make plays if you see see the quotes he's given their one hundred and eighty degrees different than than what he was saying in Minnesota. He's saying now I've learned that I can't scramble. I can't try to make plays plays. I just have to take what the defense gives me and he's playing with He. I think he's still getting used to who he is and they were. They had one play over ten yards that wasn't too Michael Thomas and that was a screen pass right. I feel like Micheal Thomas like his value decreases in a teddy bridgewater offense compared to win breezes in there. Maybe it's a chemistry thing but it's Alvin Kamara catching fifteen or fit fifteen targets game in the screen game and I and I just don't want to go against Jack Bear right now because what he's doing. Maybe it's just it's got to end like mark said he's definitely GONNA to get to ten sacks. He's going to have a good year not accurate because the three game runs had to follow up a three game and then a four game. Maybe have your best game after that where you forced three turnovers in a win is just outrageous what he's doing right now and what what box scores don't show you. He's doing things like Brandin cooks is wide open and Jared Goff off misses him by three feet because shack forces him into a bad throw. These are the things a shack bears doing every week. The big question for the bucks is the protection was so good last week out the nowhere and you almost never see James Winston up protection like that when he has protection like that he's like a one thousand nine hundred seventy style Daryl Lamonica back there and he's fun to watch and that just never happens and if that starts happening with more regularity than Bruce Arians is going to be flying. He's going to be loving his job. It's an a very interesting interesting offense especially if they get help from the running game which the happen they enter this game temp tenth in the League on offense fifth and passing zing and we talked about a little bit last week Chris God when a stepped up he is a legit potential star for them. We know Mike Evans and if this Winston thinks sticks they could be a top ten offense this year it could happen what date arts. I don't know why you don't move and Barbara a much lower role if Ronald Jones playing the way he yes but that's been going on week after week. Rivalry here bucks have gotten the better of Sean Payton randomly over the years but that does not mean anything with a new coach. This is the perfect Winston instant comedown game. Oh this is the three interception pick six come down game in the past. So was the rams game not that he was up before that but he's put together. Dame's six through another payback red zone picked yeah. He's going to give them. He's GonNa make if he can get togethers. Yeah he'll always be a bit of a high wire but can he give put together three really good games the road this early in the season. There's a lot of reasons to do it for Sky Sports Right. Yes do it for Sky Sports. That's the rallying cry that Tampa Bay will just saying that at Panthers Bucks Game looked like it might have been a dog. It might be two three and two teams all right with the third overall. Pick not too many late games today this week back to you. Take one off the board here and I'll grab a good one packers. Cowboys wasn't getting me never would be and yeah. There's no way you can't look at his game and get excited about it. Because the cowboys are coming off a bit of a humbling Sunday night loss but nothing to get too worked up about I think I think they went into a very difficult environment on the road and primetime against the New Orleans defense that is very good and you know sometimes you get beat and that's what happened this game so I still believe in the ceiling of the cowboys offense in their abilities and now they get a a packer defense that liked the cowboys last week a little a bit of humbling performance with the eagles able to do some things against them that we had seen that against the packers yet so now you have two teams coming off disappointing losses that I think are near the top of their conference in what should be a very good close game. I'm having a hard time time figuring out how the packers score points in this one as well as the cowboys play defense last week and as well as Robert Quinn is playing at an adding a new element to their defense that wasn't there last year and Davante Adams isn't practicing the keys out not a good injury either turf toe some that can linger for weeks. Where are the playmakers makers on the packers offense outside of the quarterback? I'd be I'd be very worried. I don't necessarily see that. This is going to be a close game because because of that a- and because I think the cowboys have more answers it's the best player in the packers offense is Aaron Rodgers improvising right and you might not have Jamal Williams uh-huh either which is I think a sneaky big factor just because they'd like to run the ball and now you're just down to Aaron job if there was life to Green Bay in that Eagles game early early and they got up thirteen to seven they were up ten. Nothing it was big plays to Davante Adams so if he's out I mean what are you GonNa. Is it Geronimo Alison. We're counting on to do that for Dallas. I I don't worry about the saints game was I think that that defense is going to do that. Two Teams Multiple Times that Saints Defense this year but Dallas obviously mopped up the redskins and dolphins oftens they they beat the giant. There was a lot of excitement around what was going on. This is a good test saints into Green Bay. I don't think Green Bay's defense. Eagles got a little frisky on the ground against Green Bay's defense late in the last game but to me Dallas I am not panicking over the saints loss at all. I still think Kellen Kellen Moore is doing is great for so many players in that offense Zeke Elliott though I this is not running around him circling around him the way it did in past years he had thirty thirty four yards right. It wasn't great last week. They faced the first cut the fence that wasn't a bottom five defense and they had a deep D- performance a couple of it was fumbles but I didn't like what I thought of Kellen Moore running so much and insisting on early downs there wasn't a lot of play action. You didn't see some of the same creativity and they won't be without Tyron Smith in this game very likely and Lyle Collins who's having an all pro type season at right tackle is expected to play but hasn't practiced at all yet this week so that's two guys are one one left tackle. You're missing the other ones her and you're going up against very good front. I don't know if that was just a one game blip for the packers evens yes. I think they just kind of face. The game plan the had their number. Go ahead with say Kellen Moore watches. You know the eagles game. He's GonNa see okay. I got to get the ball into Zeke compilers hands as receivers more often because the packers have bad middle linebacker play when it comes to the passing game and you saw that with guys like Jordan Howard one of the worst receiving Beck's in the league they had no answer for him in the passing game Zeke's been underutilized in the passing game. I don't think he's GonNa Watch SEGEL's game. I guess would be that. He'd probably just say you know we're good preparations. Perations were fine might get your boy Michael Gal back this week to a little earlier than expected doesn't seem a good combination Zeke who has is the NFL record for most rushing yards per game against an individual team against the packers is average one hundred thirty three yards packers run defense is giving a five yards a carry right now I eaten up last week. I gotta say I'm off to almost historic Owen for start with west our friend who runs these matters. Let us know that mark you went. Oh and five to start a season a couple of years ago and you came back. I'll let you I'll say it always before you do you came back and I believe one that year I think Owen five in the NFL Oh and five you're cooked in lock battle Owen five never know inclined inclined back out so I gotta get I gotTa get going and I was. I was leaning towards picking a winless team as my lock which just shows how lost in the woods I am right now but what I'm going to do after for all this great conversation we just had to lock up the cowboys at home and have them take me back into contention. Let's go Zeke. I WANNA buck seventy five and we know what to West Point Gimme sixty seven yards at a touch through the air one of those monster Zeke Games and the cowboys role. Let's Thelma and Louise this thing Bashar Algebra blue. Let's do it. We gotta go. I need to get off the snide and this whole lot. Let's go. It's in my head to unchanging up my routines every week now now I I have no idea what's going go. I don't have a good feeling for you guys at all the mayor I had this as a blow to. I don't know I didn't think of it. I didn't even I need to think about these wrong. All right Aaron Rodgers Rowley our enemy territory. Take all right here we go up next Chris wesseling and that hey ricky. Did you get that snake drop. We talked about yeah oh she didn't know I'm about to hit hit it right now after my first game before my NBA just wait okay. You just pointed to me and I'll hit it. That's where did it. She didn't think about it for one one side. It's right here. It appears to have five different versions. I have my suspicions about what's happening here but I won't say anything until it occurs. Wes Your pick for for my first game. I am choosing the Baltimore Ravens at the Pittsburgh steelers Nice Choice Nice Nice value grass field mid west. That's all all my qualifications. The only qualification I mean they do not part of the Midwest but that's we'll give it. It's in the western part of Pennsylvania all right Russell Russell again well I- I hesitated to say much about this because he's a legend and I wanted hall of fame but Earl Thomas is slow now oh and I hope he's playing through an injury but he is one of the slowest safeties in the league. Now it break his leg last year right. That's how season ended. Maybe he's still getting getting back but the ravens are one of the worst defenses in the league at yards after catch and it's because their safety play is very good and they're inside linebacker plays and very good. I had to triple check myself because it is Earl Thomas but when you see him lose the angle a COUPLA times when he should have the angle against the browns go back and watch week three against Daryl. Sarah Williams who in my notes have written down is one of the slowest running backs in the NFL earl. Thomas lost the angle on him and was out run by Daryl Williams. I think if I'm ravens fan I have a hard time watching this teams right now not not only that but when John Harbaugh saying this week a lot of our problems is about guys not carrying out assignments I think he's talking about Tony Jefferson and Earl Thomas Two safeties who have made a great career. The Jefferson is obviously nowhere in Earl Thomas's class great careers out of big plays by using their instincts and I think they're both liable to freelance. It's a little bit and they're both slower than they used to be. There is a line which would travel me if I'm a Ravens Fan in the Baltimore Sun this week that said in one of the Seattle papers this week rather than said Earl Thomas can still run very fast in a straight line but turning around in making cuts like eats pretty slow. I'm doing well. That's kind of problematic and I've aim. I beg to differ that he can still run very fast in a straight line. I just I don't see it and I think they have had miscommunication who was calling the defense. The last few years Eric Weddell he's Gone Earl. Thomas comes into call the defense and he hasn't been that said are the steelers. I feel like the Ravens might be an offense first-team now but are built to win a game that you score a lot of points in to me. They're coaching around out right now their quarterback and how many weeks in a row can you do that. The Ravens wrote the book on that last year in terms of not requiring a ton of throws to the outside but they're far advanced at this year and I I would take them in a shootout type of scenario the I would say one thing that coming out of that Ravens browns game watching it a second time I think we learn more more about the ravens than the browns and more about Baltimore's defense they were scheme dwell against with pulling guards and centers and the big plays as you guys mentioned that you know it was all big plays for the Browns I thought that came though by Cleveland beating them up over and over to create the big plays for selling you've got Earl Thomas Chasing Nick Chop up down the field and when I looked at Baltimore's offense they got in Lamar Jackson's head they got to Lamar Jackson and if the steelers can do that with one of the best pass rushes in the league Lamar Jackson thirty four yards at halftime in that they were not what they thought he played pretty well well number in a lot of that came with with them down by a pile of points. I got blitzed and he didn't have many answers for this is a fast early on for Lamar Jackson because yes he looked like the new mahomes the first two weeks against some of the worst teams in football last two weeks is come down there. He's come down to Earth a little bit Greg I do but I think he played just as well last week. He did week two against Arizona. I think they were not in the gears. He just felt like he wasn't the most important part of that they were they were winning. Paul Ryan and the defense was terrible if they have to score thirty points a week. They're not built for that like this is a problem for the ravens away their bill. They thought they needed to be like a top twelve offense top fifteen and have their defense carried them. They can't expect act them to score thirty points a week. I thought the steelers defense played well too and I'm not I'm not thinking that Lamar Jackson's gone going to score thirty every week. I think teams are going to start watching what what say the browns did against him. The one good thing is they have great tackle. Play the Ravens. Maybe the best tackle duo in the league that can help nope shutdown T. J. Watt but the steelers out of pressure up the middle to all right. It's time to snake gross. I know I was in our library so weird. I thought that was Dan sounded like it. You can you do it again. With a camera on you know the cameras broken here. They know it's broken says behind the into the Jason the next oh now wait a screen go ahead. Oh okay let me just hit ask real quick. She didn't prepare to Julia prepare. She just she didn't make a note of it and I will say you so busy now. With all our other programming programming you know fantasy lineup set yet is I mean I mean you how you doing adequate snake soundly unless leading the show right now so your fans can listen. I'm doing three thousand things at once and I downloaded a really cool snake drop. I'm sorry you don't like it. That's not my problem with Adam. Rank on twitter. You got all that lockdown and what my snake drop I I that's the one that we had in our sound all right well Sierra. They'll be working at MVP's wedding this week perhaps in Lisbon and wrapped up at Emma's enough souls beautiful fit two weeks of luggage and a carry on she tweets last night at some point so you know different concerns than some. I'm going to pick the other four o'clock game since there are only two of them smart West you know how to play the game. Isn't it by ordering the order. I was thinking why pick before they've now I can just watch whatever I want it for o'clock clock to me. I like to be able to pay attention to my game so I can give people what I saw on the recap show feet. You'll be watching four shows. I I'm going to watch the same game. That was at four o'clock whether I choose it or not. What is that like Sunday's a workday for me not an enjoyment? I'm put I'm punching the clock clock coming in and watching football so I can give the people with the hard hat bring lunch pail you know flock a field of stroman being raised up good way to put it with your punching hunts in the class absolutely worker I know punching the clock you punch in and then after twelve hours and probably sixty hours at overtime your pudge out your feed your family Greg. That's what a blue collar worker does punch. Hey houses on his hands. That's right. I pop it in a couple of hours early. People all students that game debut live at eleven thirty he was well w the to plug eleven thirty s the crowd. Is it so ultra tiresome while you're you're sleeping. Go ahead. I WANNA watch a guy who is now rivaling. Alvin Kamara is the best receiving back in the NFL Austin Exeter in in this game he is so good and we get a little Melvin Gordon this week too but I wanNA watch that and I want to watch for how many people cannot resist talking talking about Joe flacco and the twelfth raided broncos offense when they should be talking about the twenty seventh rated defense that could not get off the field for eleven minutes against Gardiner Mint and she was one drive. The defense is the problem in Denver. These these teams are similar. The chargers defensive stunk the broncos defensive stunk the chargers defense. No one's noticed because they've played terrible teams a lot of times. Your defensive rankings are basically just the ranking of who've played and I think that's the case with the chargers so I think the Broncos can move the ball down the field in this game that there might be this might be a decent amount of scoring problem is they kick a lot of field goals when they need to score touchdowns as it is a problem and no Melvin Ingram. I believe WHO's out like a month from the chargers. They are starting people. There is a guy starting at safety and undrafted free agent named hold on Rodrick teamer now starting for Los Angeles chargers defense. They've had a ton of injuries especially on defense and that's that's part of the reason they they've struggle I don't I don't look at them as a team. That has any gimmes if they're if charges fans are kind of looking at this and just checking it up. I know they're big favorites. There are two. They're one of the worst two in two teams just in terms of how they've played so far I would hate I hate to be I don't WanNa play in Owen four team at this point in the season no matter what the Broncos are different to me a little bit then I know everyone is like this is the new dolphins. Oh the Redskins oh the broncos. They're they're tanking out well. They're not like they're just a bad football team right now that that's that's incomplete. I love the match for Los Angeles at all at all but I would look at someone like Philip Rivers. Who's playing awesome right now? Austin has been awesome. Some Keenan Allen has been awesome. They've gotten the pass rush but they still have like their key star players playing very well and if you can't take they they should have beaten the lions they'd be three in one weed feel a little bit differently about them. They have been uninspiring and there have been people tweeting us. Why don't you guys talk about the chargers? We've talked about them. Plenty in the past they just have seemed a little off the radar this time and they need that signature juice and they get your Melvin Gordon for all the jokes folks we've made about it. They just need offense of weapons and he adds one. Unfortunately probably will you know have to take off the field which is a problem fifth in the League and yards bothersome but even he can they can use them right they can use them together and even if Gordon is playing thirty snaps and eccles playing thirty five or forty and I think that might be the type of Split we see that still adds juice to an offense that is been really good and adding another weapon. They need to be an offense. I that's that's the biggest challenge right now for the chargers in terms of their offense of philosophies has become one of the best all-round running backs in football. You wouldn't be right like mark. You're saying it wouldn't be right to remove him from the game plan but Gordon before he disappeared when he's been right he's been at a similar level in terms of productivity so you just gotTa find a way to balance that or is there a possibility ability and let me know if it doesn't make sense for whatever reason contractually Maybe you move Melvin Gordon before the deadline in three weeks. Why not just value you gotTA? Give them a contract but why not just do what you did. Last year. Before Melvin Gordon got hurt they were averaging two hundred yards a game between the two of them. They were the best duo in the NFL using them correctly. We're going to get out of Melvin Gordon Right Away Right Hander Henry's back on the field but he's not returning yeah. I mean they have some. They've had so many injuries like they can't. I feel like they can't trade away any town. Then then get hurt and suddenly you know starting trusting Pope I suppose yes they they are great one two tandem but eh colored been table to prove that he can do it as the lead guy and that's I guess that's just part of teams so we'll says west the broncos defense in the first half against Jacksonville looked like what we thought we would get all season. They just if they had done that for the full game we would say they're back. They're ready to go that was their last stand game and you see what the emotion they were playing with that they were they wanted an orange crush day and they were feeling themselves and then Gardner meant you took it eleven minutes and they were never the same without Bradley chip. You do get get a nice home game in. La this week if you're broncos fan so that's a fuss by the way by West logic which I think is good the last stand game if you lose your last and game mm-hmm. There's no way you win the next week okay. There's no way they they they seem like you're saying they would no dignity and Dignity Health Sports Park this week. No no I mean if that that that theory holds West if you lose the last game you have to come out flat and dead which makes us a lockable game if you can look in the mirror now I wouldn't be able to look in the mirror to and Uber Zone for but if anybody else can see a reflection or greg on his own rules the air perfect narrowly sneak under the my roles but it is not my lock. I've soft locked the sea hawks and I'm sorta still considering that throughout the show. I'M NOT GONNA go lock up against an four-team. A soft lock is like one of those you know uh with your Schwinn bicycle with the four letter combinations right that's so easy to break through and sign your child so common air seven seven seven seven or it's the people like maybe you've got an alarm home security system at some point no longer pay for it. You just keep the sign up. Keep it up soft secure now right off the signed the little thicker I get that you are what your record says you are in. This is no one fourteen but it's like the intruder Greg's debrief this week the vicissitudes of just a play here you're in a play there if not for to roughing the passer penalties think pieces are flying out right now about how elway and flacco have revived the two and two Broncos Broncos and black just adding. He's just a caretaker talk about Joe flacco Washington Bridge so far it was it. I'm just saying to place this is not your typical O and fourteen. They are weirdest owned fourteen. I hear you but they should be one and three because here's how I look at it. They they lost two games convincingly and they split to at the Buzzer so it's like you know they haven't been a great team. One three mass I would argue wars comeback the engine behind it was a terrible Joe flacco intersect and I would argue back but he's out of the last three weeks. What do you want your quarterback to lead two minute drills to score the go ahead touchdown with only a minute left in the game and he did it last six? I actually don't think FLACCO is their problem. Flat goes been an exactly as good as they could hope for. They needed to be better. All around. I don't part of me is just like okay but I'm also not amped up as it's a human being Louis problem with the broncos says he's he threw a killer interception that changed the energy and made up for it by escort begin a bunch of drives that he didn't flash. Why did FLACCO becomes you know why because there needs to be this is interesting? How this podcast works? There needed to be a lightning lightening rod because you didn't have to kick around anymore. So now you have the new Eli which is JOE FLACCO and but in reverse radically is west now who is not seeing the light and is staring airing at the good things and ignoring the bad. I am seeing the light you wanted the evaluating. This Joe FLACCO has been an average quarterback went all with all the analytics six last season had a top fifteen quarterback now they didn't nor the without having to pass the standard ways had ally no that is is not true. You're throwing out falsehoods. eroneous statements are as well just everyone listened to every single football pad podcasts out there. You're not gonNA hear this type of heat about flacco anywhere grass. We care about all thirty two teams. He's just been average. That's all I'm saying all right. Let's move on right I want dignity is important. It's not just when you look in the mirror about what gaming could lock up for the people in the room like me and mark and to some extent Greg you can say oh. I'M NOT GONNA take my favorite team because nobody's going to double cross me and take my team so I'll steal them at the end of the draft. Now that's not fair. I'M NOT GONNA. I'm not GonNa put you guys in that position and I'm not going to play play began that way so even though they sort of the week that do it though I know but I'm not going to do it. I'm just not GonNa do it because there's a chance Sam darnold place and there's no way I'm going to have somebody else watching in that game for this podcast I'll take him the jets at the Eagles and we'll see there's a tweet tweet. I heard from a very good source direct source. This is some real Zeus insider stuff that there's a good chance darnold plays but then I see a tweet from darnold availability today this Connor Hughes does very good work for the Athletic Sam. Sam Darnold says he wants to make sure he's not going to die out there on Sunday. I mean it would be the most jets thing ever that Adam. Jason is mania to not be repainted. As the most miserable offensive mind in the league will kinda push his quarterback onto the field despite it in the large spleen and then something nothing terrible happens that would be a very jets thing to have happened. I'm just hoping that's not what happens here. I hope Donald is active and also healthy and there's a good chance that's going to happen and now they go to the eagles and it's a really tough game. It's a very difficult game but if there's one one thing to hang your hat on if you think this could be a game is the idea of a lot of things that have happened. darnold has to play the offense has to look look a lot better with a healthy Sam darnold and then they pick at the eagles secondary which has not been good. That's the only way this becomes a game otherwise it's going to be grim and I don't even know who's calling this Greg. CBS I imagine it is a Marv Albert Special C-span C. Span public access but but that's that's the Path is donald plays and then his have been able to have some success against Philli secondary their line there one of these teams that concern me because when you go look get the PF rankings of everyone on offense from top to bottom there one of these two or three teams where they're five starting linemen are the bottom five five out of six players in rankings in deep red territory and it sometimes doesn't translate and I know how these rankings are done for the lineman but it translates with the jets their line China's been a it's been a big story and the thing that's been the most kind of flexing for people inside the building out. Is that talent wise. It's not the worst line line. There are guys that can play and have played at A. O. K. level in this league so that has not been the issue. The worst thing is right. I mean but the raiders finish simulate the Panthers didn't want Khalil. Let me finish yes. You could say that maybe they just got guys that were done and that's possible but there's also been talk for it to be as bad is it is that there's an issue with scheme going on and it it's a it's a coaching disagreeing it behind the scenes about how how to handle the attack on offense and they tried I do in their most recent game before the by the Patriots scale it all the way back to almost a rudimentary form and I'm not an office of land expert but I could say they are on the fly trying to change change their entire strategy and that didn't work either so there's it's been a big big soggy mess in that line but I think it might be just beyond talent. You gotta be careful with darnold Arnold. I also wouldn't WANNA put him out there and see anything like what happened in week one when he was fully healthy and they were the worst offense in the league that he was not fully in week one and he had mono then. Yes okay so maybe that that was part of it. The scheme hasn't look good matchup. You should be able to take advantage of you know if you're throwing the ball pretty well. You can't run run on the eagles but you can throw on them there. They have not had a pass rush. If three sacks this year Derek Barnet's not really working out for them like there there are there are beatable defense the Eagles defense right now well. Who Do they have enough warm bodies to start at cornerback I think so I think you know they're not gonNa have Darby backed but I think maddox is is he back? He looked brutal before he got injured the the other thing. I'd be worried about it with the jets though is the is the Williams wall that we had talked about going into the season Leonard. Williams hasn't seemed to be fit for Gregg. Williams's defense hasn't made much impact and then Clinton just been out for a couple of weeks. He returned to see him make an impact Leonard. Williams is a guy that's there's buzz about could be a trade candidate because you know it can move on from the it's more. It's more than a Greg Williams thing. He just has has not ever become the guy everybody thought he what he's a really good run stopper. That's never been a pass rush guy and do they wanna give him a big contract and they want the franchise tag them or do you WANNA trade into a team who thinks they unlock his sizeable potential. I think he could be a guy to look at who could be on the move in October. I just I wonder what Jim Schwartz awards is telling his defense if Sam Darnold for some reason like it concerns me with the kind of injury illness that he had that they're being thrown out there that they don't really seem to trust Adam Gates alone to make the decision because it's not committee with the GM involved in it has to be though it has to be but like they made a point of that. I don't know it's not GonNa he's not GonNa play unless the doctors say he's fine so I'm assuming that's good but the jets in this stuff usually they destroyed have never in the history of the NFL beaten the Eagles and I would be concerned if Philadelphia lost this game and that's a the team I talked about in my mind the third or fourth best team and I I this would be one of the biggest disappointments of the decade for the Eagles to lose this game and it is a knock on the jets sorry Hukou on the sense of their talent going in there in in terms of them being a favourite. You're probably right that they would probably might be the biggest favourite game they they're not gonNA lose. We'll have in on philly radio if they ever lost this team. I'm curious to see if Mile Sanders in Jordan Howard can keep it going because I kind of like that Backfield backfield the way they're trending. I think Jordan Howard run pretty well. Sanders gives you some that if they if they don't play that well I do wonder if they would add a running back at the trade deadline but there's no reason isn't this point all right greg. You're up all right. Let's go to what the one o'clock games. This is my backup game in the morning. I don't like to even think make myself as having a backup Yankus. There's so much focus Gerbil going around the we own greg. I'm looking for a rocking chair game from my late early game as well. We'll get to Woah. I'll take hatreds come on. I don't WanNa Watch the Patriots this week live. I'll take the Texans and the Falcons 'cause it's got the does Shawn Watson involved in that's fun partly because you don't know what you're gonNA get some weeks. You get what you got last week. Where the average three point three yards per attempt jumped which is a little wild? I think they will be able to bounce back partly because their offensive line there improvement that we talked about in week three it was there again last week. I know he took a few sacks but man they protected him really well against Carolina and I think ultimately that's a good sign long-term for this Texans team. That has a lot of good things going for them. They got out scheme. They got out played a week ago and talk about the last game. I think this is it for the Falcons well. Maybe it's a little early for that. I agree with you later early. Later I wrote here. Texans can break Falcons right here and if you found that right here if the Falcons lose is it highlighted the or yeah written in Yellow Josh Perkins can break Falcons like we should have another spin off podcasts or mark holds up his notes and just shows us different thing every week a little work into the MR highlighter. If you get because the way it is I'm looking at it right now is there maybe we can hold up for the camera you have you have the standard black font then you have red font and then you have and this is important highlighted black font which I can only assume as the most important it's called work and to me it translates a lot of it. I just use the notes from week to week doesn't translate always when we've got three and a half minutes to discuss. I like it. You are super prepared. Super prepped the Texan. The defense has played nine guys basically every snap which is very out of the norm and today's NFL Whitney Mercilus Jj Watt played almost every snap the entire season this kind of speaks to how top heavy they are that we've talked about like it's a very risky way to run defense that Cunningham's playing great twenty nineteen but they're playing. They're playing well. They've got a weak spot in their secondary and rookie Lonnie Johnson who teams are attacking and I would expect the Falcons to go right at him. Falcons are a five hundred team super bowl loss. Only the dolphins are worse in the first half in terms of point differential this year and they're starting about eleven or twelve of the same guys is they were starting when they were dominant a couple years ago. I think you have to wonder about the coaching. Quinn has regressed or the defenses were regressive quintas the play caller caller five no running game and we beat up Steve Sarkisian everybody did Dr Cutter comes along. Are we seeing the offense. Kinda reminds me. It reminds me of the bucks softens where there's a ton of yardage not a lot of drives going for touchdowns necessarily know balance note. They were Matt Ryan was sacked. What five times his last week they were stopped on fourth and short three times they totally fizzle against? They're not a balanced team and I don't like the way that you're you're going to Houston and you're dealing with Joe Mercilus. Jj Watt. I'm regretting this pick right now here now. This is one of those situations like in a fantasy draft. You get back to your computer. There's like seven seconds left half and you buy you take for Sante Sankoh the failure yourself. What have I done all right? Let us move on up next mark sizzler so I typically looks like it will be a week where I have to write a recap on one of these games so I'm looking for one. That's just a big media blowout. Hopefully over by halftime but I also enjoy I enjoy seeing utter destruction and I want to see talk about a team. That's going to be pain the price when they get wiped once again when the Patriots go into Washington and take the redskins and scattered them into fifty parts I also I wanna see a new England plays on offense after last week. It's not obviously you're playing one four team but New England watching that game looked bad on offense in the bills had a a lot to do with it but the this is a team in New England that just had to put their kicker on I r Mike Nugent is your kicker. Now that is I'm not seen Gus. Kelly Kai was in running for that job and kyw's sky. We all know that what does that tell you go. Get A job kyw. Go Win a job in a big spot. It's been a while now. It's been a minute since you've been kicking in the NFL and you're you're up against the news and we all know the news. The News and the new is about a C two C minus carry thirty-seven best kid five plus kickers in Job Avci. I love that they're building and don't walk out of that building. So you gotta you gotTa contract in your head. It is delightful. They've gone from Viteri to Gust Caskey. No break can between twenty three years four games and now you've got the news and you got young way coup on the practice squad welcome Patriots. It's not a huge step down. I almost thought my first it was like a phantom. IRR scenario because he's missed four extra points four games and maybe he's it's it's amazing raising credit even with his struggles earlier this year that he's still kicking in the League while the guy that replaced them the kid fifteen years ago might be nearing the end of the line pretend now he's he's having left hip hip surgery. Apparently he's been playing through it for a while and explains that is potentially career-threatening injury kicker. He's been a great appro. He's been a you know he's been a great kicker over the years I will miss. Let's pick this game. Do you think they will be able to survive the the game planning eight advantage that the redskins have in this way well after Jake who's playing quarterback they asked him. What is your planning choice? We don't have one I we. I would love to see that little hole McCoy. That's exciting I would can I lock up Colt McCoy starting because I feel like that is in your own little world. You can extremely safe safe and less. He injures himself between now and Sunday. I think it's possible I hate. These type of games is a few real like dead but teams right now. Redskins are one of them and I feel like we learn nothing about this game like if the Patriots score forty points I don't. I don't take anything from that. This is not hyperbole. The redskins started an offense. Last tweaked is worse than some of them. You'll see in the preseason I think out of the eleven players who started for them on offense not even half could make roster for another well. They are very injured to in their her missing. Trent Williams like it. There was distinct disadvantages going in but you don't trust the coaching staff to coach out of any of the maclaurin is is back but sheriff might still be out Jordan Reed. He doesn't play this year Vernon. Davis might be added to the mix. I you know you can watch Larry Guy my Guy Lawrence guy the guy we're just going to pick out a new role player on this Patriots Defense Defense. It's playing lights out every week. It's Larry Guy that's a great defense. Greg Jeff Gordon's a problem. That's one thing I think you can learn in this game. Josh Gordon in to close the area much not on the same page. I watch re watching that game. It wasn't about protection. It was about Edmonds hurt. Gordon is her and out of sync. The receiver situation is not pristine they are they were a three not machine in that game you you blinked and they had the punter back onto the punters doing great by the way to Ben Watson send returns by the way former patriots great after ten years away from the team minor yawn all right. Can we get a full screen on ricky because this is a snake snake pick. We WanNa make sure but I close up. Thanks she downstairs and cut the drop. Maybe they care but like getting on the poor's you know what would you say okay that ferrick. Let's hear it all right snake it. I'm a snake excellent. That was good all right mark up the snake. Wait as markup. Mark is up. It's it's a snake baby. Ooh Gotcha and I am going to pick. We're going to London. Why Not Take the London Game I love it? They've actually found a way to put this ad our time ten. Am La time one PM Eastern not any not sure at all what time it is in the UK they can figure that out fix six PM in London. I looked at the bears game I have I am so have I've been so down on the bears because I cannot believe it all in their offense in their quarterback position. My mind has changed my mind. At this point. I could see them. I'm becoming one of the last two teams in a non dominant team. NFC I really could and I think their defense is truly special and London Games always they seem to come with a bit of residual chaos and I think this is going to the bears. Whoever plays the bears whatever happens the whoever loses that game obviously is going to come out with total nightmarish in-house issues we saw with the vikings receiver complaining the others on the trade bloc potentially everyone's wondering what's going on with the Vikings what will happen when the raiders get utterly thumped in a game that I think will be about thirty three to seven and the raiders leaders come out of London with no answers looking totally lost and we are looking at the last eleven or twelve games of Derek Carr quarterback while I'm sticking to that opinion you can shake shake your head? I just think that this is the beginning of a lot of changes on offense in the bears or defense travels to London well and they're going to drop the L. Chicago Hammer and I don't care what Chase Daniel Saga however at Israel is what's going on here. Mark is organic tanking draft here why hi 'cause you just you pick the biggest lopsided game of the week. This is not this patriots at Redstone. You predicted a thirty three two three okay well aw massive blowout. I don't need first of all. We Watch these Games during the week on Sunday. I'm fine with a couple distinctive. I if I enjoy football blowouts too. I don't that's you're you're hitting on something. This has become a interest for me and all sports in entertaining blowout is underrated underrated. I love the greatness and have a destruction and wipe the floor and like tennis other sports too. I sometimes enjoy that better than like a close close. What about an attitude on the other side of the ball? Doesn't that take away from it a little bit I would. I would assume this mewat like Chicago's defense. We're watching a truly great memorable defense. Inside Israel answered all the doubters after people thought they couldn't do it again. I said that a bunch in the off season and wipe out like this. It's purifying well. They've had great they've had good I it had good matchups overall and this is another one you know the raiders offense despite being too into has only two receivers over sixty arts. They could use like a number one type of receiver. You're like a guy you know what I mean because then tyrod Williams he's he's a good to WHO's now playing one. You have waller. He's broken out. Josh Jacobs a great pick but but you're so thin at receiver hunter renfrew is really the trendy thing after the draft in the summer. It's like hey this is a guy you can stick right in there. He's going to be catching seventy balls. What the next decade okayed they've thrown the ball eighteen times to him? They have eighty eight yards on those eighteen throws. He's him and the rest of the outside receivers other than tyrod Williams our guys who would not make other their teams. I think I liked the matchup chase Daniel. This is a dream scenario no von tests perfect and Cleveland girl the number four over overall pick in the draft oft among edge rushers with one hundred plus snaps. This season ranks dead last in win rate according to pro pro football focus which is basically the guy I know raiders fans. Don't see this way but essentially you traded Khalil Mack and you used your top five pick on a pass rusher. He's essentially Cleo Max Replacement Placement that angle to this game to Khalil Mack having a chance to face the Oakland raiders in Jon Gruden. I would imagine it he's already on an MVP AP level tear right now. This would have a nice little narrative. What's GONNA lead? All your little prime time shows a Khalil. Mack has three sacks in this game. He knows how to trash Colton Miller. If that's when he's going up against Trent Brown by the way who we also wondered was that too much money he's been fantastic for the raiders. Their offensive line in general has been fantastic not caught in though yeah you get you get Mac or if it's floyd when he's on Miller and you have a win. It is pretty wild by the way I thought about this couple of days ago we were so close to it and everyone was so exhausted hosted by the storylines Antonio Brown is not in the NFL anymore. He just audio the arguably the best water football. It just got yes someone was just because does he was a jerk and he's maybe nuts he got into it on social media with some player and like this anchor Mayfield in some stories stories okay. I guess this was a big story in some circles but in others like mine. I'm sure that's muted or you know it's like even him screaming into the void is not really like like making a big pop anymore. I needed to go off on Scandinavian novels and then it would have hit Greg's feet but it was it was a relatively large store after Weddell and Baker me this is a this is a perfect the game to open up Tottenham the London crowd they know it they love the ugly games and I love them for that. They love the fans they deserve the kicking there might be some rain here. It just could be messy bears fans in London or next up Greg no well. I think actually here's is what you do and you have snow trap three games at one point at one time you gotta just take the battle of the winless teams because if there's any game that deserves the number three spot. It's the cardinals in the bengals. I mean the cardinals here. Let's try to think of something interesting game. They're running. Game Hasn't been bad David Johnson. I think looks better each week starting to do some of those ski slalom moves that he used to do a few years ago last week cuyler Murray when they do Kala run for him or when he scrambles his his footwork is just different like his foot speed and foot work. His feet are moving so quickly like it's wild. I love disappointed in him as as a runner they don't use them and escape artists like Lamar. Jackson is an explosive elusive runner. I don't think Tyler Mary Tyler is not looking to run your right. It's the couple's even when he does very intersects with right. That's when he's he's trying to buy. I don't think he's great bind time in the pocket but when he actually makes the decision to go he shakes people off in goes around. I'm like it's nothing and the running game hasn't been bad. They should be able to run all over this. I mean David Johnson has he had this trait in this skill before he's become a primary receiver because they you don't have a deep game the way that I thought they would necessarily I when I watched the cardinals like a move the ball really really well. They cannot finish drives. It's constantly going nine eleven. They had these long nine ten eleven play drives that finished with a field goal in field goals that goes south at the time to to me. They're disappointing and I do wonder nder because it's too early to judge. They need more time to build what cliff Kingsbury wants to do. They don't look to me that distinctively explosively different within a bunch of other teams that are using three wide receiver sets all the time fine they go four. It's not translating into stuff. We've never seen before that were so Pedaza by and I do wonder you brought in Cliff Kingsbury. I think he's done okay job with not a lot of parts early on what if you get a ten and eleven games into this and realize wait a minute this special offense isn't isn't that special players and they lost Christian Kirk both John Ration in Kristen Kirk expected to Mrs Game Ross that in the band for though from a defensive standpoint unplanned tear Larry Fitzgerald is by far your number one and you're to draft picks up three draft picks at the position aren't making much of an impact. They're not that hard to cover you get one on one match ups but they're not hard to cover. I saw Larry Fitzgerald's death that blew my mind this week. You guys all know that he's now second only Jerry Rice in career receptions. He has one thousand three hundred twenty six receptions second on the active list. Take a guess well they Antonio Brown doesn't count no actively suiting up for NFL teams. I don't just tell Oleo Jones has seven hundred twenty one. He's got like about half Fitzgerald's while receptions and it's crazy that is wild and on the Cincinnati side. We saw you know how L. thing how bad things have gotten on Monday night Robert mays of the ringer wrote a piece this week about about Cincinnati basically their downfall on fall since he broke his thumb he was an MVP candidate in two thousand fifteen broke his thumb and then everything that's gone downhill for Cincinnati since he came to the conclusion what we've been talking about years podcasts that he's the essentially the Prime Meridian and he's as good as the people around him allow him to be and it can get really bad when you have bad people around him which is where he is right now and made me think about if this is indeed the end of the Andy Dalton experience in Cincinnati and they have no more guaranteed money money tied up with him after the season if they did go in a different direction. Does Andy Dalton get a chance to be a starter somewhere else or or does he have to go to the Ryan Tannehill path of his career because by the same virtue of what we've been discussing if you if you're a team that has a nice setup around it perhaps could could be closer to the guy was in two thousand fifteen. I'm curious what kind of value he would have of either take per case keenum but only if only one or two coaches were would've taken can case keenum to begin with and I know rough on Dalton I think I think that your quarterback has more meaning than than just simply his onfield talents or ceiling clean you have to sell your quarterback to a more savvy fan base than at any time in football history. I think he's a tough sell. The answer is yes of get a chance at some. He's not gonNA be the broncos. Rocco's quarterback next year is he feels about Jay Jay Gruden. We'll be coaching the Andy Dalton in Denver. I mean they actually have linked big show. It makes so much sense but they put you on Ross on. I R and we know. Aj Green is bubbling up is potential guy you ship out of the building. Because why is he in the health. Either I mean I can't move. I you know you could see Joe. mixon Joe Mixon's the one last guy who's like a real asset there and you can just not how fresh I broke my heart in that after the steel the only time that game felt like it was competitive is a fumble by the steelers Cincinnati takes over first and ten from your heart Pittsburgh's fifteen tyler effort on a third-down an Passi absolutely pulls in before his forty seven. You know lower body injuries he he had it was like when Jimmy Graham couldn't come down with that pass on Thursday night like all Jimmy Graham's got that old tyler would have had that ball. I have let Tyler go after that. You've been very into tyler color I for a long time. I've had a lot of patience I always believed in him but I think those injuries have taken away that elite athleticism. That's how I feel about Earl Thomas it's tough right. It is the shit out again. What is happening my pick bash brothers? You know I'm really surprised the way the draft picks because you know what in fantasy fantasy dress sometimes when you're like I really WanNa take this guy but I you take the other guy and then life is good and you end up getting the option to take that original guy. That's what happened for me here. worry area guy I have the Minnesota Vikings Oh same thing lean in to the meadowlands the face the giants and yes. We have a an epidemic in the NFL Stefan digs now is letting it be known that because times are getting tough in the modern fell times get tough trade me. Get me out of here. I'm not happy be I don't need to play out to my contract. I will be sick. I will go home and then I will try to force your hand to trade me. He came back to the team. After missing a practice yesterday digs eggs and this isn't a season in which we know everything has gone badly right now going badly right now for Minnesota's offense very small sample size by the way but he is not getting targeted targeted the way he did lassie's not even close Stefan digs and on the same week that Adam Phelan called out the offense and the quarterback leading kirk cousins weirdly publicly apologizing to Adam feeling the other wide receiver then lets it be known that he wants Outta town so Minnesota has a lot of issues right now and it's kind of an interesting time for them to go face a giants team that despite back to back wins known is GonNa Confuse this defense with the eighty six giants Minnesota if they just figure out some type of game plan and finds a balance of their offense you would think they should be able to move the ball and if they don't and Danny dimes James and I don't think say quantum Barclays playing but apparently he is he is possible they says not practicing as of Thursday but apparently he's such a superman that it's he's getting close but even without Saquon Barkley at the Vikings find a way to to win this game and if they look bad doing it we might have a mutiny on our hands with the old Viking Horn the I mean you win you win. This doesn't matter if it's a style you're saying if they win ugly if they lose twenty seven six or thirty thirty one ten and the offense is not moving everyone's already talking behind the scenes. This season could go up in flames as sometimes happens in Minnesota else. I wrote death of the Vikings a question mark. I'm not saying it's going to happen but double pound sign in front of the two triple and that's just the separated so I remember to say go that held something against the Vikings ever since you gave there your heart to them as the team of out remember East that's apart but I would say this though because something seems to systematically eerie with the vikings because Kevin Stansky their offense coordinator with someone that was getting a ton Hana buzz around the League and Got Eight head coaching interview or to the browns are very serious about him potentially being their head coach and analytic skies loved autumn and all this other business that bringing Gary Kubiak but I feel like that was to quell to some degree Mike Zimmer who for two years in a row cannot get by behind an offense that is actually modernized it is run. I and that's great when you're in a situation where Delvin Cook is going to run the ball crazy. I know the offensive line stinks but I looked Vikings confused abused operation. What is it they are on offense and if they ever the giants are not a very good defense obviously but they looked better last week? I know who they were playing. I do not know who they're playing but I'm not just going to simply like it was a step forward and Saquon Barkley and not winged Goldman placate. They did not totally they were not dead on the ground. This is a frisky giants team. I scared if this if you're a vikings fan. This is a funky game. The it's the sample size and that's why the digs wants out thing really it was like what he said issues for awhile okay. It's say let me just say week one week one verse Atlanta they ran the ball very well twenty the eight points and put up easy win week three against the Raiders Rocking Chair game thirty four fourteen. Everything look good. They've had to rocky games in between but to act like this is some team that is a total little crisis often in crisis. They have this need to see more. They are well above five hundred since Diggs got there. They pay their players. Well I mean what is the problem. He signed a deal last summer for forty million guaranteed your there dude stay there and you know I went to coach film to watch chess game because there's so much talk about cousins play a little duck hunter on coaches film. Whoever pops open you you shoot the duck? There are many ducks opened in this game. They're just in there. Aren't that many plays. They're running a lot of screens. They're calling run plays. What do you what Kirk cousins to do on those plays? There's a back story here where you know them taking little shots at digs over the years. He said they kind of have like a bunch of team guys in one celebrity. That was a couple couple years ago. We don't sign that big day called well. They had a different offense back then you're right. I'm not defending it. I'm just saying I'm just trying to explain for context like he missed them. Ota's this off season and then they're tight end you call them out. Maybe for not being there. There's been talk like the I I want to be there for my teammates when digs miss some. Ota Not a staff so it's been it's been boiling there for a little while and yet I'm not really that worried about it. Sometimes feels like a squeaky wheel gets it's the Greece game and they do go bombs away on this giant in when in no matter how frisky you think the giants defense is now when you're going from the Chicago bears who looked like they broke the vikings last week to the New York giants this is GonNa feel like open prairie and they're not free. I think their offense is for is for his defense is bad. They just played a preseason offense but their front is okay at stopping the run. They're really big. I mean they're the only team that has like two hundred ninety pound defensive end trying to break the passer which does not work so this is a game game. You should be throwing the ball not doing Zimmer plan and so. I'm a little worried about that but I think the vikings defense is solid. I think Danny dimes is fun to watch makes quick decisions decisions. He's calm but he's going to give both teams chance there. I mean we sort of over the fact that he could have thrown four first-half interceptions a week ago and this is a tough match-up drives and they scored seventeen points against the redskins defense. That's not too impressive and that's why I'm going to lock up the the Vikings on the road. I liked that so we'll see I mean you guys had me worried things. Things are following. I mean why why you should wait on the Vikings and then not wait and then wait and then not wait and then wait and then not wait there nate nate team and they're going to do this all season long. They're going to be hanging around for a long time nine but they're not an eleven and five team if they ever achieved that kind of records for John. I'm not ready to give I know you're not why would it be fraudulent if they went eleven and five five. I'm just saying it won't be what you get eleven five teams that are not eleven when teams they had like if they can unseen. He says them going nine and three of the rest of the way. We'll just luck it it well. I just think that the offensive line stuff going on. It's not something you fix necessarily. I guess my point is it's four games so the idea that no team can make adjustments assignments can improve. I think that this is this still team. That could pull things together as long as it doesn't crumble from within my biggest concern is not so much the slow start it's all all this potentially anti kirk cousins stuff behind the scenes with their star wide receivers and how that can implode locker rooms bad and they I mean the whole thing that like Kurt cousins has a podcast is apologizing the the'll and on the podcasts. I don't know what I want for my quarterback. The whole kirk cousins thing from day one I think part of the story Kirk part of the reason why people have picked on Kirk I think is because he feels like the type of leader who's always reading books about how ought to be a leader what I mean. I think that's a fair criticism. That's not unfair. That's fair dog hates and he's playing timid and football players. Don't like timid West. This is a this is a great mister elving game. There's nothing relevant about this. This is the game out I wanted. This like eight picks ago. Hose it out. We got a mid West game. What a congrats real grass the buffalo but the titans on pulling me back in Ya? It's GonNa take a long time but the bills never lost this amid west high in the mid in West. Do you know her Nashville. I mean I I hear what you're saying but wait never heard that Ashville is the mid West now part of this is getting ridiculous. Now I just so you it is. I hear what you're saying the self it's it's right in the middle of the country for Map Greg here. Here's the thing about the Midwest has two parts to it. It's got the mid you could argue that in some ways it's like middle upper but then there's the west and it's it's in the eastern time zone so it does not it does not qualify for the western portion of the West. There is only a west where the mountains start in the geography defeat changes. That's the western part of the United States like Iowa is West so the the Census Bureau disagrees disagrees with you but I I know you don't kill it on America. I'm destroyed at our lady's. Let's just take a second here and let's just mark. Let's let's just breathe for everybody West. Take it in just a ridiculous standby visas. The weirdest hot take I've ever everson table in Nashville is the westmount here's the map I mean it's much closer to the east than it is to the West. It's further west. Its natty which I grew up back on track here. We got all the maps out as outrageous. You think you think Titans you think tightens bill is going to top this argument right bill early rest my act tycoons tight tunes are back and flying high west right now and teller L. who wants back but here the buffalo bills the buffalo bills and Tremaine Edmonds another guy who has made the leap Middle Linebacker I find myself. I self watching him every play now. I still like this defense. I know they're going to be playing. Is Josh Allen plane or not is he still in concussion protocol. As of I think thing is trending towards it because when the concussion guys are practicing that usually means they're through step four and then they officially passed that five Friday afternoon so I think they're expecting him to play. I think that the unit trust most in this game as the Buffalo Bills Defense more than the titans defense I think they are better version of the titans defense I agree Matt Bahr if it is more Matt Barkley and it seems like the reporters are putting things closer to fifty fifty. I do not like buffalo shot. I didn't like what I saw from that Barkley Arkley at all and I know that was a tough assignment. so it's kind of unfair to say oh well. He came into the middle of a game against arguably the best defense in football but does he does he guy that wins Games on the road. No I think he's a lasts less Athletic Ryan Fitzpatrick. He'll throw the ball up. He has for era adjusted stats. He has the the second highest interception rate in history behind Nathan Peterman right but he's worse than Josh Allen. You know they're not winning. The judge not winning quarterback play as it is. I mean Josh. I don't think they were the best the Patriot Stevens wasn't the best defense and on that field the bills defense right now to me is better it it it totally shut down a vastly superior opposition last Sunday and there's no weaknesses in that bills defense defense I think though it's easy to overlook Titans Defense which has allowed twenty points only once all year. They absolutely made life a nightmare for Matt Ryan last week. They're they're getting pressure there. Every level has talent there at home in the Midwest to host the bills here so I'm a bills offense offensive even with or without Josh Allen cannot climb out of a deficit with explosive plays. They don't have that in their arsenal. They can have to run the ball a ton and run it successfully. I think there's a big advantage for the titans and I don't mean that that means that Marcus Mariota. Aj Jay Brown F to go off which they seem to do once every third or fourth game looks like Devon Seven Single Terry will return which is big because they like. You said they need playmakers although my boyfriend Gore and we don't even talk about him anymore we just take his greatness for granted. He's been good over fifteen thousand yards. Some some big plays in Jordan and Mike Hide might be there's some good safety tandems out there this year but they are up there right now. Hide is ranked number one and Ben. PF there was a to play sequence in that Patriots game where Poi- are too stuffed Sony Michelle. It was a total one on one match up at the goal line at Michelle probably should have scored on employer stuff them and then the next play hide confuses Tom Brady and picks them off in the end zone. Those two guys have been awesome. I'm watching you Marcus Mariota Oughta. You know you've had some moments this year so far. You have no turnovers zero two four games passer ratings over one hundred. You've had some shining moments. He's had some not so shiny moments well. Here's a nice little chance to make a statement greg in your building against a defense. Everyone acknowledges is one of the NFL's is best name. What if it's I feel like the final score is going to be thirteen to twelve right? No matter who wins so what statement that those are the ones that would not be a statement goes thirty ready stats for Marcus Mariota and yet he reveals entirely unremarkable in Yankee Bull for Ryan Fits Front Ryan Tannehill at any moment so he does have those pretty stats. Where do you stand on him? Dan Dan since you're monitoring him. I monitor as like okay. You know what I'm watching. I'm watching. I'm not ready to give up. The numbers are good right now. He needs to do it a lot. More undeniably undeniably the numbers are good is passing the eye test. Last week was enough. You think you've made this big progress lights them up in the first half and then they don't score after halftime. That's kind of tie is in a nutshell career ranks through four weeks for number one yards per attempt seven touchdown on those no interceptions a message message mentioned the passer rating his passing plus yardage per game. These are all career-best ranks so statistically he's taking a step so far this this season yet they are two and two with two really good performances and to really bad performances so it's still you're kind of in the toilet. Throw it peck when you just hold the ball and get sacked. The rear ranks means something different for Ryan Tannehill than other quarterbacks. He has totals of nineteen thirteen and eleven touchdowns in other seasons. He has never been a great statistical quarterback that is for sure all right any other thoughts on this game before we move up now. Let's hit Sunday night. Football Indianapolis Colts traveling to Arrowhead stadium to meet the Kansas City chiefs a game that Greg is going to be really excited. You're excited about all games greg but this one. I think you think Jake brisket is going to step up and open some is there is a great week of games but you're you're wrong. I I mean I mean I've taken Raven steelers packers the Monday night games amazing Tampa Saint there's a lot of great games but the colts right now uh if you look at PF depending on the scoring system and you use like they have a plus or minus rating there are team. That's all right around zero like their the defense. They're all right around zero. They're not they're all. They're not going to hurt you. They're not helping you that much. They're not putting a lot on the table there. They don't have play makers on either side of the ball when T. Y. Hilton is hurt Marlin. Mac is a little banged up. Jewish should be playing today. It looks like on Sunday so he returned to practice practice which which is huge and Mac did finish out that game for the most part or they said it wasn't injury related so that would give them a chance watching the chiefs. Any Week is exciting but the colts don't feel like they have a lot of firepower. I still like watching like I like what they're doing but they're not as fun to watch as I was hoping I mean that raiders. They didn't move the ball very well through the air last week the colts there's no doubt about that not a drop. You sit definitely sensed not y. Hilton playing a big role in Brusett struggles Marlin Mac back thirty thirty ranked chiefs defense. He's playing angry now. I think he's got a new injury to his ankle. That offense goes through him at let's Kansas City at home on Sunday night. You know this is two different teams but we're not that many months removed from Kansas City thumping the colts big time in the playoffs it does do they match up well. Animals are worse no-one no-one matches up to their the chiefs offense to just about not in two thousand nineteen and that's I guess that was that's my point but to my point earlier sometimes it's fun to watch and Patrick. Mahomes is fun to watch and Primetime in just about any game so it's even if it's not that close I think it'll be I do think the chiefs defense despite being thirty at their eighteenth and efficiency some of that is some of that. Is You know there's a lot of possessions those games get up. They've played pretty good offensive opponents. I do think there are a little better overall but Frank Clark's been a huge disappointment that trades been a disaster. Some are Emmanuel Aga who they signed for a fraction of the money he is playing a lot better than Frank Clark's. We just showed that play where Travis Kelsey flipped the ball Hook and ladder style to shady McCoy was awesome and Marcus Grant said that was like jazz has music in the chiefs offense kind of is like that it's when you're so fundamentally sound and having so much fun that your mind and body start to go outside and play a while and you see the chiefs they're just like let's let's start playing having all these teams still in the in their preseason in September the chiefs were not in a preseason. I believe that play happened on the final touchdown drive as well all right sounds right the double check that but they yeah that shows just the looseness in confidence the they play the way they play eighty by the way not washed up. It looks fine. I'm not saying he's a game-breaker but he is getting slow to me point three yards per carry. He's he's doing what he needs to do. They're all right. Let's move to Monday night football the Cleveland Browns to and to after that great win in Baltimore will now they hit the road to play the San Francisco forty the niners who got that dreaded early by but before that early by they had won all three of their games their defense playing really well and Mark Baker Mayfield had his way in and Nick Chubb had his way with the Ravens defense that is trying to figure themselves out right now the niners defense they have they. They are not trying to figure this themselves out. This is a good team is a great defense and a very fresh team coming off a bye challenge two totally different matchup and Baker Mayfield you know after three games of everyone questioning everything about his play his he actually the guy in his Hebrew progressing and can re defenses looked better when Baltimore couldn't can't really put a lot of pressure on him. He's still doing Baker Mayfield things but now to me you got the match up of Cleveland's offensive line's still still suspect against Nick Beau Scott D Ford Eric Armstead deforest buckner. You've got Alexander and they're on the flipside. Jimmy G. has to deal with a Joe Staley free three offensive line going against myles Garrett at Livia Vernon Sheldon Richardson Larry Jobe so I I think this is one of these games that barring something out of the ordinary might be be relatively low scoring at these two great defensive lines can keep the offense isn't check. I believe in their defensive line or defensive front the forty niners but I think the rest of the team we don't really know how good they are because they've beaten three teams with a combined two and eight record in turn the ball over a ton on offense offense just having paid for it yet five times against the steelers yeah. They're one of those teams that you have to see more. I mean we it's almost true for every team. INCL- including the browns like I didn't. I didn't come out of that game thinking they solved everything because they get four plays. I think that combined for almost three hundred yards and they were good. They were good individual players. They have the individual talent to just have a different guy off and dominate in any given week and that's not a bad recipe you know if they can turn the play call around but it wasn't like an in rhythm hayward just rolling on offense but the defense is so consistent that you're right mark like I would be shocked if this game gets in the mid twenties like I think this is in the teens defensive game turnover. Luck is a funny thing in the NFL and the San Francisco Forty niners or the ultimate example they have seven seven turnovers through three games. They had seven all of last season and their defenses playing better this year but a lot of that is just the way the ball bounces sometimes that's something to keep in mind that that they've had a nose for the ball because that seems strangely to also then carry over as the season goes on the other part of the game for them as their running game which they have two guys and Brita and Rahim who are over five yards a carry Brita five and a half yards most art sunnyside Brian Yeah I mean they were a beating up these yards in that last and they are ranked they entered week for when they hit their by ranked fourth in the League in rushing so they can run the football. The defense can get after it and is Jimmy. G. Can continue to make progress if that happens team can hang what a great Monday night game aimed teams that are have a lot of little stars have good intrigue and you don't really know about seven Komen's returning so I think Antonio Calloway you'll get into that running back mix alloway quarterbacks who kind of had similar ish seasons. I mean Baker. I think's played better but you know where they're not necessarily early. Processing Super Bowl you could say it's the most hyped quarterback of two off seasons ago Gee versus the most hyped quarterback of this past season and all be on on airplanes one last one last note that Odell Beckham who did not have a big role in last week's game prime time game. Is this a perfect spot for him to blow up or is it a game where he kind of disappears a little bit with that starts to become a storyline. If Beckham is not a part of this offense does he get disenfranchised non stop service Landry's in concussion protocol as of Thursday so they might need Adele to play a bigger role regardless all right good stuff all right a little later tonight night Thursday. You'll hear as I said earlier the Thursday night recap and then Sunday. We'll be back recapping all the games. We just previewed about that. It's it's just the wheel. The wheel goes round and round ricky. I'm on the fence right now about whether we want to continue with you doing the personal snake sound drops or if we you WanNa have something proper in there that shows some you know dedication to the craft and all that I mean yeah I can try to download another drop if you didn't like the one that a is that I don't like it. It's a principal thing. Maybe what do you guys think it was upside. It was a little different each time because you were doing it on the spot and I thought that she did an adequate. 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Ian Rapoport Talks Texans & Why Earl Thomas Won't Be Signing Here After All

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Ian Rapoport Talks Texans & Why Earl Thomas Won't Be Signing Here After All

"The pros. Do It on the bench rest load management you can do it at home. Get up just ask your Smart Speaker Sports Talk Seven Ninety on iheartradio. Whitney Mercilus you're listening to. Sean. Salisbury. Real Texans talk on sports. Seven ninety. Joined now we are weekly by. Rap. Sheet on twitter he's NFL networks insider and we'd get him on here every week our guy in rappaport joins us. And welcome in let let's start here with earl. Thomas it doesn't look. You've been on top of this from the get go people had was like a foregone conclusion. He's GonNa be here. Well, doesn't look like it's going to happen. Now why why isn't he going to be a Houston Texan? Yeah and you know that was interesting. Because right when the news broke on the transaction wire that he was visiting, there were all these reports about that. He was definitely signing and I was Kinda like you know I was surprised by that because my understanding was more of a look and you know Kinda see where he is physically she's mindset do a little research you know. That it was really more wait and see I saw those reports that he was signing. I guess I must've missed something but they sent him home yesterday you know I know they discussed with his agents about you know being overly cautious with Kobe. Nineteen protocols and all that. But you know it seems to me that it was yes there was some of that but also at other. You know that other people scheduled to visit to i. think it was more just they didn't see him as a fit I. Think they did some research and look into it. I. Think they just didn't see him as fit on the field in the locker room. I'm look I mean he's been available for. It's five weeks now. So. You know it's no one else assigned either so you could say what you want about the Texans but if they're crazy then everyone else is crazy too. Yeah I. said it earlier I, said listen like people are standing in line to sign him because they've had they've had a chance to and they haven't. So what do you think is the bigger issue his on the field play or as locker room presence which has become a headache. I think it's both because you know as you know if you're a great great great player, people will deal with a lot. They will stand with offs. Right? You know if you're in Tony Brown and you're in your prime like with the steelers, you missed a meeting or to though though. I think it'll be okay. You know But when the play starts above a little bit and your expensive and your guy who has caused issues in the past and the locker or literally on the practice field as we all saw, you know if that's the case then team starts having less and less patients and I think that's where they are. Thomas. You know if you're if you have them under contracts. And you know you basically have to pay like, okay. You're dealing with some of the bad stuff. You'll get some good place and that'll be it if you would have to bring him on and find them and pay them and deal with that stuff, it just doesn't make a Lotta Sense. Rappaport rap sheet on twitter joins us here on sports talk seven hundred dollars weekly visit. And stick in here I know the schedules tough but they haven't been overly competitive a little bit in the steelers game. They had some chances in couldn't close it out. But there is no unit on the Texans that did other the quarterback that dominates we're not seeing vertical push. The Defensive Line can't stop anybody the receivers aren't the speed is not being utilized properly the run game can't they're not running and they can't stop the run. This team has been a major disappointment for their simple lack of competitiveness against three good teams. Yeah. I. Would Agree I mean through you know through three games they're not in a good place nine that's very and I thought of winning last week again, like tough game I get it. You know like every every has been tough. So if this was a team that you know got to five and five, I wouldn't be surprised but they do have an uphill battle. You know I would say they did it to themselves. They haven't played great come out a little disjointed and you know they they've been disjointed I mean the last you know seems like almost every year they come maybe that's just anecdotal but the. Blow. this year there's just the schedule is so tough right off the bat that they just couldn't afford to that. So yeah, they gotta get things together and have a great quarterback David diverse interesting receiver offense of on should be good enough. They should be better than this I think they will be a time to get going. Yeah. We can't keep saying this ride in we waited we'll be then you're on four one five and before you know it, the season's the you're so far behind you can't write up. With, that in mind and I know we hear this a lot and you hear this a lot because your insight with coaches and we'll get around the league in a second and people here asked me and I say I don't think I don't think there's anything he can do this year short of going winless Gillibrand fired three and thirteen is he still the coach next year? I mean, my sense is you're probably I just you know I think that's I. think that's a big stretch right now because again, I agree here going to be okay agreed you know I really do have they just have too much talent. I mean. The the only thing that would doom a coach in the situation will be at the team literally just stops point. Just. Lays down says we're done. We're not gonNA play and you start to see you know horrendously lopsided results and then you say we gotta get away from it. I don't see that happening at all you know Bill Ryan may not be perfect but he always has had players play hard for him for other people whatever it is the team always place I think they're going to be better, but you know it's pretty clear the. sort of sense of urgency here. It's very strong and I, mean they they gotta start getting better starting this week. And around the league just curiosity what do you? Know how the people here feel. But what do you? What do you hear that the biggest weakness with Bill O'Brien is what what what is the bill the biggest buzz about the negative about him? You know I would say in the in the past I mean him. Sort of the his temper has has been something. He's been criticized. We've seen it on the sidelines I'm not sure that's even that much of an issue anymore You know I know that You know. He's he's. or not he calls the place has been an interesting topic. It'll be interesting to see if that something that is changed. No not calling plays as of now I mean, I, think the main thing now unless something to watch for the Texas, here's the other responsibilities. You know he's the GM he's the lead negotiator he's head coach. He's the head town, evaluate him and I know they have a divvied up. Responsibilities too many and you know bill belichick has been fine doing that. Bill Ryan has not yet shown that he can now the the work he's done as GM has been I. think fine. But It's handling that and being a great coach that is the challenge and that's something that. You know jeans to prove going forward. In Rappaport NFL network rap sheet on twitter joins us for his weekly visit. All right, and how do we if the Vikings can't prowl? Let's talk about the over the steelers and Titans and Vikings and Texans? If they can't practice, we're still planning on playing right is this just got to deal with this is part of the game you're going to have to meet virtually and play with fresh legs what what if they can't get to the complex how doing that this week? Yeah I mean I think that's something still to be determined as of right now the game is on if that changes if it's all tired obviously that's something that needs to be figured. Albany 'cause they played. Tuesday after shortly to practice I mean, yeah they cook you know let's say they played Tuesday and they have four days to recover for the next Sunday which is the same as you would for Thursday game. So it's not ideal. but it's what it is. So I think right now as of right now the game on, could they change it? could they postpone it because they think with the schedule all those things are in play. Going forward. and. How do how do we would've said Matt Patricia, they pulled one out struggling obviously not one how Dan Quinn with their DNA and not being able to finish games and Adam case how do they survive the season? Finding again, Quinn, you know he's probably looking at a two game critical stretch right here where you know they play Monday night against the packers and they played the panthers homeless they go. Oh and to. Go into their little I. Think it's a by right. There winless. It's now he's been on the hot seat since forever. I, think it's GonNa. Be Tough to come back from that one for gays. I mean he's got a game tomorrow night. You know if. They. Go out and it's ugly and they lose to the broncos and the third string quarterback I mean that is going to be very tough round engaged to come back. So I mean I think both those situations if the team start losing. You know the team start losing certainly that'll be something where it will play itself out. It'd probably take care of itself unfortunately for those guys. Is there anybody else as a coach? In Matt Patricia Notwithstanding his Ernie other coach out that you say. He's in trouble. No I think it's really just you know right now as far as head coaches I think it's Dan Quinn Adam Gates and you know I think, Matt Patricia bought him some time. Now they play the case this week or one and two may not have. Michael. Thomas Lines. Win Again. Then you get to two and you can take a deep breath, right so. I think the lions are going to be okay. I win was critical but I think the lines are going to be okay but. As of all the other you know as of right now, it's really just the Falcons and jets. Do. You have anybody I know that Russ's playing well errands playing well. But is there anybody that did when we talk about the best team in football? Is it the chiefs and then four other teams are as anybody close? Yeah, I mean to me you know it looks like the chiefs and how could you not how could you not say that you know and I would have thought you know would be the ravens but you know we saw what happened there they they still need to take big steps to be the team that. You know sort of everybody Everybody thought they were going to be I mean the one the packers are really interesting to me because last year they were a good team. It's like they didn't get credit at all for being thirty three or whatever this year they are really scoring points and they look explosive Rogers it's great. I would say you know to me the it's probably the chiefs after them. I'd say it's the packers will let me finish with this. We heard a report that that some say wasn't true at Jerry said on a radio show Jerry. Jones about Prescott compare them to Mahomes and Tony Romo. Is Dax and Jerry Jones relationship. The. Relationship is fine. Now I've heard the comments a couple of times I read them. I don't know what it means. I really don't like. To Jerry Million Times like. It could be an insult, it could be a compliment I really like. Honestly. I have no idea. It's just that's what it's like trying to figure out what Jerry Jerry, all the time right, and that's just him. Right. Yeah I mean sometimes you just you just certainly can't tell Don't know relationship is find obviously they don't have a deal. So until you have a long term contracts. It's always going to be an open question which relationship which is future and all that. I think it's fine. It's just none of it matters until they actually signed it long term which. Wanted to do and obviously, we're not able to do so. Yep and he is he still going to put up big numbers because without him right now their defense is playing the The Dallas cowboys aren't very good I mean he's got to keep them in game. So we'll see how that continues because he's going to get panned. He's he's still going to put up big numbers because without him right now the way their defense. Is playing the. Dallas cowboys aren't very good I? mean. He's got to keep them in game. So we'll see how that continuous growth because he's GonNa get paid whether it's in Dallas or somewhere else we all know that Ian, great stuff brother know your your phone's busy and with all the covert stuff let's continue to play football on. We'll do it again next week man. I could shop you to. Appreciate your brother. Thank you. That's IAN rapoport come back and discuss sports talk seven ninety.

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Moving Forward Part 2: Everyone Has a Role

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Look no further than the most popular TV series of two, thousand, nine, hundred and twenty, twenty, number one, Sunday night football number two Thursday night football number three Monday night football number four, the mass singer number five, the last dance four times sports appear in the top five ahead of the Bachelorette survivor American idol grey's anatomy. This is us and a bevy of other highly discussed shows. If, you look at the most popular individual TV shows nineteen out of the twenty five most watched shows in two thousand and nineteen were sports. Not just football it's the world series, the NBA Finals to College Football Championship, the NCAA men's basketball championships. Sports. Dominates. With that in mind you would hope and imagine that the industry itself would be representative of the stars in the Games that have become so popular. It is not. For example, more than forty, five percent of college football players are black but black men only represent nine percent of athletic directors and eight percent of head coaches. We can play these numbers out down the line in all facets of the Sports Industry Women's Sports Men's sports college pro media. Companies Leagues. Disparity is real and tangible. Progress only comes when the majority aims to help support and advocate for the minority. If the majority persists as if the norm they are living in is what they want to see continue. We'll things will never change that. But If a large enough group of allies from the majority are mobilized and activated for. Change. They can hold the power and the key to stimulate positive change. As award winning diversity equity and inclusion leaders Sherry atchison wrote in Forbes. ally. Ship is a lifelong process of building relationships based on trust consistency and accountability with marginalized individuals and or groups of people. It's an opportunity to grow and learn about ourselves while building confidence in others. This is an important step for all listeners everyone listening to this program to understand what minority groups whether it'd be women, Lgbtq or people, of color need. And how they need it. To be an ally, requires an ability to listen support self reflect and change something. All of us can and should do this is part three of our four part series titled Moving Forward In this episode, we'll be diving into allied ship and the steps we can all take to create an inclusive environment in supports to help in this discussion I'm joined by Destiny Jones and Alex Rodriguez guys how are you doing great her doing great destiny let's start with you give us a little bit of your background. Let us know a little bit about your story. Yeah. So My name is destiny Jones I'm from southern California. I recently graduated from the Ohio State University while I was there I was an intern for the Columbus Blue Jackets and I am planning on pursuing a career in sports. lampy. Alex what about you? The Ohio State University I love how you got in by the way Alex give us your story a little bit. Yeah. My Name's Alex Rodriguez just like the baseball player born and raised in Houston Texas second generation immigrant. My parents are from Mexico went to college and Mississippi College where I was the first Hispanic student body Vice President, and now I'm currently an. Account, executive with the El Paso chihuahuas specifically in groups else that's fantastic. So destiny, let's start with you something I repeat often when I'm talking to young professionals is to identify the problem and then focus on fixing that problem. You know don't get don't get into blame don't get distracted isolate the problem you're facing and fix it. But that sounds great. We are talking about work issues like certain tax that's simple. That's a simple process but the problems we're facing with social justice and equity are far bigger and. Not, really for one person to fix on their own in your view, what role do we all play in fixing the issues of social justice and equality before us? I think one of the biggest things starting out is realizing that like it is able long enduring process. So expecting to see change is really quickly is just going to get you frustrated but I also think that people see issues like this and know that it's big and feel like they have to do big action in order to help challenge that. But I. think that activism in these kind of rules can start on a much smaller scale like it starts with. The wear of the kind of language or using the language of people around your using and saying like, Hey, we're not going to say that now or let's not make those kinds of jokes anymore. and also being intentional and being inclusive. So diversity is one thing but inclusive means like not just bringing the people to the table but making sure you're actually listening when they have something to say and making sure that you're. Letting everyone feel like they have a place. in your circle. Another thing too is like there are the bigger actions when it comes to social justice and equity and participating in things like signing petitions and going to protest and writing your representatives and things like that. Also absolutely have their place. But I think people like to skip over the smaller part of starting starting at home with the people around them. It's really vital Alex. what do you think I totally agree with everything destiny saying I think another part I think it's two things that I. I started the work on myself and try to be like you know an. was first education because there you can't really come up with the solution if you don't really know what the problem is and so trying to learn more about what the problem is itself is a key opponent to figure out how did we get here and how do we move forward The second thing is your circle I think that I try to work on a lot inside look and see what my circle looks like because I think one of the issues a lot of people talk about what social media is that it's an echo chamber but I think that's always been. An issue since the beginning of times I, give you look around you if it's the same people in the same perspectives, you can't really learn from it. So you got to look and see what your circle looks like charter get a different perspective in order. So you can learn more and expand your mind and understand maybe it since I don't feel that way. It's because it's all it's all. I know. So you need to learn more but others people's life and other people's you know they're walk in how how some of us have a different life of walked than others you know. It's such an important part of the conversation I WANNA hit on the education pert. You just brought up I grew up in Massachusetts I went to good schools I went to a good college and I will be completely honest and transparent right here. I had never heard of June teeth until this year, and that is so sad and that is of a failure of our education system. It's a failure of the conversations that we're having and I'm a pretty eyes wide open guy and yet this was these were certain events and. Conversations I didn't even really know about and that's part of this is getting exposed and educating yourself and trying to learn more about other people's experience and I love your point to Alex on who you're around and you're the different perspectives that you are associated with So Alex, we'll go back to you as you've watched these kind of horrific issues They've really been right in front of us and social media does a lot of that. We're able to see so much and no so much more than we used to. You've also seen a lot of forms of responses right there's been peaceful protesters, speeches, their social videos there's fundraising efforts, corporate statements. What resonates with you on on a personal level. When you see action what stands out to you, I think what really stood out and I'm not sure if I'm really answering the question, right here's. The response from like the field program you know like. I've known these people since last. June. But they really do feel like family to me and Bima would come together and make a statement like that. Because at that point, I really felt like I couldn't do anything and we were coming together until invoicing like our complaints and and so we decided as a group let's say something together because even though we're young and we don't have a lot of experience we do have a unity invoices and I believe with that unity a gave me a platform to feel like actually have the tools to make a difference and that it might be just like a little like chip like on taken off of this but it there needs to be a start somewhere in that's what really resonated with me and it Kinda gave me. Like that help in that reassurance that I do have that platform in the support system in order to succeed and fight this fight destinies that important in your view to is having that sense of unity and community they can kind of band together in a way to speak up and speak out. Yeah definitely like having a group of people that. I knew I mean being a mixed race person. Being, half black seeing this stuff can kind of on a personal level sometimes and knowing that they were people who didn't necessarily look like me who didn't necessarily have my background but who still stood with me and? Recognize that these are also issues in with something that they were passionate about too it. It helped me feel a lot less alone. And it also helped me feel like I'm not one of the only people trying to move forward in this kind of space either there are people who I can work with and be around and help feel like something's happening. Alex, you want to add to that. Yeah. 'CAUSE just to add up onto what happened that timeline that gives context I was stuck in my apartment in El Paso? I had no one to talk to about this and so I think like with this year and like this like re resurgent blocksize matter movement like it was tougher, a lot of people. Mentally and like I'm not even black so I can't even tell you like it was hard for meals mentally draining but imagine being someone that like move to another city, a black person stuck in their apartment like this is what helped me was like having this group to know that I could reach out when I felt this way it helps so much. The workforce podcast moving forward is brought to you by fellow podcasters author, an athlete career transition coach Taj to Sean and guess who's with me now Taj, what's happened Brian. So tell us a little bit about your role as an athlete career transition coach while former athletes get through that emotional rollercoaster of adapting to life after the game and helped him figure out what they want to do with the rest of their lives, not just for a paycheck. Lanes themselves finding something. 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You're providing such an important resource to athletes and people as they transition to the next phase of their life was the best way for anyone interested. He's listening right now to learn more about your programs and what you offer. Thanks Brian you can connect with Taj Tucson DOT COM. That's T. A. J., D. A., S. H.. N. Dot Com all the links to my social media on the website and I'm Tasha across all media platforms I'm extremely active only in his you know Brian. I'm costly posting engaging in the work in sports group. That's right. So. I'm always on there. You see at least a couple times a week I see all the time you sir, and he can also take on my podcast thrive after sports, which is available on all platforms and my new book five after sports is available for preorder at drive up to sportsbook Dot com I'm jealous man a published author I got to get on that you're you're catching up you're going ahead of me. Hey, I'm happy to help you get your book published city time. There we go. We'll need to work together on that. Thanks for coming on and tell us a little more about your business. Thank you Brian. I was speaking last week with China wheel from minorities in sports the website minorities, voice dot com, great site grade thing, and one of the things you talked about was having a group chat and I just thought that was like the most grassroots effort but it goes right to your points of like being able to talk to somebody and have this conversation and let some of that anguish come out that sense of community can surely help. So destiny, I find myself on a personal level in increasingly frustrated by corporate statements. Right you see a lot of these companies coming out and saying things like we stand against racism and it's like, yeah, I. Hope. So it's like I mean, really it's not bad. It's not a bad thing for them to do it. I'm glad they're doing something but like feels like we need more action would you like to see as action points from some of these massive corporations that have and teams and leagues that have massive influence across all industry across all economies like they'd can make change what would you like to see happen? I definitely feel that sense of frustration sometimes like they put out some fluffy corporates they've been that doesn't mean anything. But these companies are usually in really large metropolitan areas that are super diverse and they have different pools that they can be pulling from in terms of talent. They have universities they can be pulling from they have all sorts of different like clubs and things like that like there's definitely areas where they can say, Oh, we can go here to find young professionals to diversify like the people who are within our organization and I think that companies are slowly realizing that there's more resources for them to do things like that but it's a matter of actually taking the time to go into those spaces and make those connections. and a lot of the time the. Emphasis of the work is put on the people who are trying to get into the spot instead of the company trying to find them. And definitely easy to just say, Hey, we're going to sign up for our. Local universities like job fair and you're gonNA find plenty of students there who are perfectly qualified to go into that space but I think it also comes back to WHO's involved in the hiring process. people are just naturally going to. Be With people who are like them, and that's natural. But in order to sort of combine that in hiring I, think having a diverse hiring team is important if you have people who are diverse background that are involved in those decisions, you're going to have a diverse. I feel like it's a pretty easy like two plus two equals four. But it's a it is a matter of taking the time and the effort and being intentional about it, and I think it's a lot easier and a lot less expensive and a lot less time consuming. To put together a corporate statement and throw some money at something then to actually reflect those values back within your organization and that where organizations and people on start maybe putting in a little bit more work. For sure Alex. what do you think about that? I think one thing is that a lot of companies are charming look at the big picture of their own company like reflect like whatever their staff is, which is good. But they I think a lot of companies need to also look at the small pictures of each departments and look at see at the different levels at how diverse are they because they could have the most diverse entry level like corporation ever but that is not going to do any good. Anyway those people that are at those levels have the same powers as the top executives to make those decisions because it's like we're starting to see like the psych wave of the change comment but. It could be sped up a little bit. You know we need to see more. You know people of color that are CEO's or in high level positions and I think another thing too is An. I go back to my time as a student body president which you know is it like the the most powerful experience like being the CEO of a company but like one thing I learned was like. You need to have that communication like you need to have that transparency. You know we were doing small things try and change our parking passes work but you need to talk to everyone you know like you can't just have this discussion with the student representatives, but also you know like. One issue that we had Mississippi caused that AL trying to change our student athletes represented enough. So I would I would try my best to make those fans in those connections to have that communication be like this is what we're working on this. You think this is a fair representation of yourself like this help you out like are we gonNA leave you the dark and I think that a lot of corporations have this this power to do that it's just the start these connections with different community leaders in order to communicate what that community needs best in order to make a difference there because you can throw all the money you want, but you have to be able to. Make Foundation. On it. You know you can't build it on Sanya to build an are concrete in order to you know, see a difference. We talked a lot in the last episode about how meaningful it was for when when the Washington Football Team Higher Jason Right as team president you know and and both Gerald and Jalen said to be able to see somebody in that kind of a role gives you something to aspire to and say this can happen for me and you're. Right, to put people in these decision, making roles at a representative is where we need to get you need to look at the business in a holistic sense rather than just you know the dividing out the numbers and saying Oh. Yeah. We have plenty of diversity. It's like no, they need to be in all levels of the organization I. think that's a really strong point, Alex so Alex, you've worked in the NFL and in major minor league baseball so far in your career. When you look around places and you evaluate your Day To day experience? Do you feel like the sports industry is inclusive and as a young person starting out? Is there an extra burden on you to make it feel inclusive? I would say the efforts are there, but it's not enough efforts if that makes sense. There is a chance comment I think after this year they're going to. Make. A bigger effort but I think one of the things that's limited a lot of a team diverse is is pay so just be straight and transparent. I was very fortunate to you know have a the Houston Texans in my hometown able to live, rent free and grocery free when my parents But I was making minimum wage and and if I was in any other place, if I had to move to get that position I, don't know if I could afford it because I mean my parents made been able to help me but there's no guarantee that and there's no guarantee of every other person. Especially, a first generation college student t would ask their parents were any family to support them and trying to pursue their career and I think that's unlike another issues like a lot of these organizations exports they love to hire within. So if people of color have to go outside of sports to get that experience. They're gonNA give up that pay or they're not going to be like invited in order to get that position. It's kind of like you know like a catch twenty two. You know what I'll take it on a quick here that goes even earlier than that I have a problem with the entire internship system because the entire system of internships is you need to gain experience in order to in order to get that first job you need, you need to be able to have some skill set. You need to be able to have things out there on your resume and yet for a lot of people, they can't just work for free they can't just go out and dedicate their time to that they. have to support themselves. They have to make money to pay for books they have to make money to pay for rent and to make a system. This way that only caters to those people that have enough ability to work for free is not good enough system and more teams, Leagues and Sports. Organizations need to step up and say we're GONNA Pale of our interns and there's going to be an equitable system for everybody and that's my little rant destiny. I. Saw you. You perked up a little bit there. What do you think? Yeah. So in my internship with the Blue Jackets, it was actually an unpaid internship and I realized that I was lucky to be able to be in a position where I could take that. But I was also I work two jobs. So I had my internship with jacket and I also work as a Barista starbucks on top of having a full course load and on top of having a leadership position within my fraternity. So I was expected to do all these things at once and it took a lot to try and balance all of it, and sometimes it didn't do but someone shouldn't be expected to. Carry that much of a burden to try and get into the sports industry because they're like the people next to me they had work in this job because they were perfectly fine they had. Parents helping them pay for things or like different different support system than I had and I think that someone who doesn't necessarily have that support system or the even doesn't even have this than that. I did she still have that opportunity to be within those organizations because they're going to bring in a whole new perspective that hold a lot of wealth and important information for these organizations because there are demographic that they're still gonna WanNa try to bring in. So important. It's a rant that I've had so many times I just think the system is broken in so many ways and the power is there for the organizations to make this level of change today like they could just make that happen right away and say and I believe the NBA does this actually they tell all their teams that any internships you have to. Pay and so I I believe that some teams and leagues are stepping up in that regard, I may be wrong on that quote but I believe that's the case and that's good. That's progress but we need to get that just a universal thing because edge experience gaining experience shouldn't be prohibitive it should be available to anybody destiny I want to come back to. You, I think ally ship is a really interesting and important topic when Barack Obama was running for president. You heard the term coalition a lot right this idea of the Obama coalition and basically he unified people he brought people across ideologies, ages and geographics and demographics and people came together and support, and they he he united people and that's awesome and something I've looked. Back on and thought a lot about drew my career I'm not qualified to nor would I ever speak about the experience forty five year old white male right so I'm not coming at it from that perspective, but I can't talk about ally ship. I know many people that are afraid to say the wrong thing. So they say nothing, how do we get past that because? that. Is a fear for a lot of people that they're. They're not sure how to be involved in be productive. For fear of stepping wrong like how do we embrace and build that coalition rather than have people? Kinda. Kinda quieted by their own fear. Yeah I think it takes patience on both sides. I think it takes From, those who are trying to be allies, you have to be willing to learn and be willing to listen. Because again you're you're you're wanting to learn how to do things correctly in a way. and from those who are wanting people to be allies. We have to be willing to teach because they're not like the people aren't GonNa automatically know like Oh this is what I should do. This is how I should speak. It's a learning process for everybody. and I think that people are really quick to find fault in things especially now but we definitely have common foundations like no one or almost no one is going to come on and say Yeah I think racism is fine. It's perfectly fine that that exists. Like their keep on the mental things that we can all agree with anything billing building up of those. Main things that we agree with. to a lot more of a unified. Movement forward like of course, in the details, there may be disagreement. But. If we build off of that foundation and say, okay, this is what we agree on. What the that that's where we can start to have actual profit progress. Alex, what do you think how do we continue to build a coalition of people working towards the same goal from across all different races, Creeds and cultures? I, think it's Kinda. What I said earlier is like looking at your circle like I think I was fortunate to grow up in a diverse city like Houston taxes and like am I debate team we were really diverse and it was it was kind of for like really first glance like black hole Trina my. My Oh debate coach she was from Mississippi and and she's like a second mother to me and she's kind of been like my mentor and I reach out I can try to get a better understanding in and Asti same questions like how can I be an ally? How can I do this? Right? Because I believe you know there's there's a time and a place for everything and there's a right way to do it, and so it's important to know when to speak when listen. Because I think that's one of the biggest issues right now is a lot of people want to speak for other people, but they never ask them for the kids to talk for them and I think you see these like some of these protests become a kind of get out of control. It's not usually the ones that are trying to fight this fight. And and it's because we gotta listen. We gotta understand what what, what, what this fight is for in China. And try to be a platform for those voices that are that are not heard right now. Yeah. See I can't agree more. You know the listening skill is one that we all need to get better at and I think sometimes that rush to post things on social media or have a quick opinion or have some sort of a hot take put you immediately into a corner. It's like just relax for a second listen rather than have to fire out some fresh opinion or some fresh thought process or whatever. You know try to actually listen before you speak something everybody needs to work on across all groups. To, in sports podcast moving forward is brought to you by gladiators and I am lucky right now because I'm joined by the founder of glad hers, it is Cecelia towns. I says, how are you? I'm all right. How are you? I? Am Great. Can you tell us a little bit more about Grad eaters let the audience know what you guys are up to and what got you started? Yeah. Yeah. So I was a student athlete play tennis in College. Went on to Practice Law, and then twenty twelve I decided that I wanted to start a blog to really just discuss women in sports. I just wanted to cover the topics that people weren't really talking about, and over time we developed an audience and we have grown. Immensely our goal is to inspire, empower, and connect to women in Sports, and the way we do that is you know we continue to provide pontoon on the blog, but we also provide advance like a gladiator summit be mixers provide a mentor ship program, and we'd provide workshops for athletes and women who worked in the sports industry. Wow. What a? Wonderful mission and purpose you have their so tell the audience how they can learn more about your upcoming events and all the different things you have going on gladiators. Yes. So please visit us at gladiators that Com were also, of course on social media and instagram where at gladiators on twitter we are. We are which just an our gladiators we're also on facebook. We really want you guys to check us out. We're launching the gladiators tribe, which is GonNa really provide some amazing benefits opportunities to connect with C. Suite is operatives in Sports our version of Ted talks. Access to even bolder mentor ship program and an online platform just for women in Sports. So stay tuned information support is so great to have what a great community you started there. Thank you so much for telling us more about. Alex come back to you. You were part of the field program we've discussed about and destiny I want you to handle this question to now you're working with the El Pasa was congratulations for that. How do you take what you learned as part of a program like that and bring it back to your work environment? How do you allow those skills and that diversity training and all the different things were able to be a part of and as a young employees especially in this time period where things are broken up and people working from home and whatever else. But how do you come back and be a positive influence for the culture of a team like you're working for now with the Chihuahuas I think one thing. Out of all the things I gained from it, I gain a lot from the field program. One of the biggest things I gained was confidence. You know it was confidence that I had a group that would back me up and that will tell me when I'm wrong when I'm right and that's helped me a lot with that. She was like there was one point where I did ask to have a conversation with their team and president about what we were doing because. We made that statement and. I won't I would be a hypocrite if I didn't talk to my own organization and see what we're GonNa, do talk about it and you know what? I was nervous as heck when I was in that call but you know I was really glad I did and it was really fruitful conversation in the one that we need to have again and move forward. With this program I mean, it's also helped me. You know create some new ideas and out to do it. Right? You know like one thing that I've learned more than ever. Already Kinda got a taste of when I was the vice-president Mississippi College was you know communication with the community that you're serving and how important that is to set up these connections not only just To make sal but but it's it's more than that because the reason why did sales because I feel like I'm doing a service. He know I'm helping some of these businesses and organizations grow in different ways and like one of the ways I'm trying to do is like I'm trying to work on deaf awareness night and soon teeth night and like what the fuel program. I thought about doing June eighteenth right back in March. So it was before this and so that helped me you know be proactive instead of reactive and start to have these conversations with different community leaders and hours at a local June eighteenth event. No Pasini told like one of the the passers like Ham working on this we started back at margin he thought. He thought that was a huge deal were able to start having this conversation before ause happened not so important like I. Think a lot of these companies that were that were pro after are are saying I told you so to a lot of these other companies that are trying to respond. Yet so true. Destiny but what you, how do you bring what you learned as part of that program and the community you became a part of and bring it to your work experience to and communicate that out to others who who weren't a part of it and maybe not might not have as wide view. One thing that I really brought out of that program was. I don't necessarily have to like any of my identities I can come into the space as like exactly who I am because that's what being inclusive means within an organization you can allow people to come in fully who they are and that's exactly what you want. and also with what Alex touched upon going I'm planning on going his philanthropy. So connection with the community is imperative. All of our work is community based, and if you don't connect with the people that you're trying to serve, you don't know what they actually need. So knowing how to make those connections and listen to people and understand like this. Is How best I can help you is pretty much central to what my job is going to be. So learning how to listen to other people and understand that like their background is different and what they've experiences different, and that attributes to what they believe in and who they are as a person, and this is why this is what they need. that. I think has helped me. Learn exactly where I need to go within my career. Finish up with this. You guys are amazing. Thank you so much for this conversation. I wanted each each to weigh in on this destiny we'll start back with you. The field program is Great. It's it's great that it brought all of you guys together guys and gals together and form this community and you so much and br brought it all out to the world, but it's a week long program, right? It's a pretty short term program this problem of representation and Social Justice and equality in the sports industry in particular. Is is a big one and it takes more than a week's worth of work. What do we need to do to help diversity in the sports industry? What's our game plan? What is our action? What are action items? What do we do now to continue this action in progress moving forward destiny? Let's start with you. I think people within the industry kind of need to be willing to open up their network. There are all kinds of young professionals of all backgrounds who would love to talk to these people and help learn what their jobs are, what their roles within organizations are, what things I love about their job and how they got there because how they got into that position can be crucial to getting the next person in Basically, I think that people within these organizations kind of need to hoard, hold the door open and let these people come in and learn and just be around any kind of absorb all the wealth of information that they have. So. True. Alex familiar? What do you think we need to do what should be our action plan as we try to control, try to improve diversity in the sports industry I think one thing is if if you WANNA make a change and make a choice any to make it's for yourself and not for people around me. If that makes sense I think a lot of these companies and auditees teams are are starting to like to film this pressure to do but I think really the only person that can make the changes themselves, and they add to seek a different perspective and look and see. If the changes are GONNA make argue to be efficient in what their problem they need someone to help them see what their problems are at because you know. I like to think I'm the coolest person in the world but I need someone else to keep me humid. You know humble and I think that's the way it is for all these companies you got to be your biggest fan but you gotta be able to have some hate yourself. You put you in your place at sometimes. Yeah. All add to think that the teams leagues and organizations and everybody in the sports industry when they have these meetings they. Need to take all the accountants out of the room and they need to take all the revenue people out of the room, they need to focus on what's right and not be so concerned, what does this track to the bottom line because not every decision organization makes has to be profitable and so sometimes doing outreach programs doing educational programs doing everything they can to change our hiring practices and to become more of an open coalition as we talked about earlier. is so much more important. That's the soul of an organization and we talk about community service that way and customer. Relations that way is that against the heartbeat of an organization I, think the hiring processes to you know we talk about community relations and I interviewed someone who's literally said that they said that communications is a soul of an organization and I love that quote it's great but I think when you really break it down I, think hiring is is I think that's how you actually get. The diversity and the inclusion and the real heartbeat of your organization is by bringing all types of people from different worlds in perspectives so that you can have. A unique work experience and I think sometimes, it can't be about the bottom line is you gotta to be about doing what's right and just being more open to all those opportunities. All right guys I've taken enough of your time. This is a really inspiring conversation. Thank you so much for jumping on destiny Alex. you're both inspiration to me and I thank you both for being a part of this. Brian. Thank you for having us. Thank you too destiny and Alex for joining me on part two of the moving forward series. I found their points to be so meaningful, impactful, and honest and vulnerable, and I just thank them for being a part of this project. We should all listen support self reflect and find ways we can all change to be better allies think that's the roadmap that they've provided for us. So we can all follow stay tuned again, we'll released episode three next Wednesday. Thank you for listening everyone. Remember to make a plan to vote this year. It is extremely important and to wear a mask wherever you go.

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"The work in sports podcast is brought to you by empowered. This is the most important election of our time and let's be honest voting during a pandemic is a little confusing right now wage is so much misinformation out there aimed towards making you believe your vote doesn't matter. Well, guess what your vote does matter voting is the most important responsibilities of citizens. Do not give up that power or that right get engaged informed and ready to vote with empowered EMP one app. Give you everything you need to be an empowered voter, you know who is engaged informed and ready to vote with empowered some of these stars of the Sports World Trey flowers Detroit Lions with the merciless and Justin Reed from Houston Texans Efren e Simmons from the Portland Trailblazers. All of these top athletes are out there supporting this great app that will make it easier for you to get all the information. You need to vote download the app today at impact. Word.com one more time get the app get ready to vote off. Let's start the countdown. 5430 ignition left off. Hey everybody. I'm glad PP of content and engaged learning at work at sports.com. And this is the work in sports podcast first things first. It's Monday time for the stat line off. If you need a little reminder the stat line is when we jump into the data of the past week in sports industry employment. Since working sports.com is the number one job board for the sports industry off the industry leader since nineteen ninety nine. We have lots of data and we're using it first data point that is important for you. The number the total number of active jobs in the sports industry. We are up-to-date 16350. That's a lot of opportunity. Okay, 16350 active jobs in the sports industry. That is a jump of hold on. I'm doing the math know I shut down that screen. I have to open this other screen that is an increase of 4.9% over last week's numbers, which is good. It's good Positive Growth more jobs is more opportunity, which is really cool thing now just to put this in perspective if you lived within 25 miles of Portland, Oregon you discover that there are 333 Active Sports jobs in your area right now pretty cool right off. If you lived in Portland, Maine, there are thirty-three Active Sports jobs, not as many but just proving work in sports is everywhere and so our Sports career opportunities side note. I love both Portland's. Okay next day to point the last seven days. We added 2755 Active Sports job to our job board. Now, why is that interesting? Because if you divided by 7 karat back if you did the math 393 jobs have been added each and every day of the last week. That's a good reason to come back to the job board. That's good activity level almost four hundred new jobs added each day. Okay, Tom category of the week. We have nine categories on our job board for jobs. Number one top listing media slash creative this area continues to thrive jobs in the media and creative roles and in content jobs are really really doing great right now seems like everyone nowadays is starting a podcast. So there's that to okay my top three jobs of the week my personal favorites off. Revenue operations analyst with New England Sports Network now. Listen, I'm not saying this one of my favorite jobs because I could do it because I could not but if you've been a long time listener of this podcast remember my interview with Malin who who is the director of talent acquisition for the Cleveland Indians and she talked back then about how the most important jobs in the greatest growth sector is in business analysts business analyst in the Sports World and this is another example of it. If you just went into our job board and search for business analyst you might not find this role but this is what we're talking about Revenue operations analyst with New England Sports Network. So it's not just sports teams. It's worth of properties that are saying we need to figure out the best way to optimize our Revenue we want to look through that data and understand how we can spend less money and make more money and those are really big growing rules in the sports wagering. Okay job number to associate associate director of digital engagement with the San Antonio Spurs to parts of this job really stood out to me well actually wage. Parts number one is that it's where the San Antonio Spurs which is pretty cool. But the other part they really stood out is that with a role like this digital engagement you collaborate with a diverse group of internal groups. So this role has to work cross-functionally with content marketing broadcast game operations Global partnership sporting operations and Communications to grow their Global digital objects. Now, that sounds pretty cool. They also only other parts of the job that really set out to me is that they're looking for somebody that can enhance revenue-generating campaigns and improve data capture opportunities to think about that again, we're talking about revenue and in his time of covid-19 time that you are able to be connected to gross of Revenue understanding Revenue how to spend less money how to make more money. These are the jobs that are growing in our industry as opposed to the trends you need to see and the third job is at Lululemon Lululemon Lululemon VP of diversity inclusion wage. And Equity, I love seeing these roles. I love seeing this growth angle in the industry. I love seeing the importance thrown at diversity and inclusion. I know so many talented people out there that want these cogs rules and it's just great to see that they're growing and this matters and that is a stat line. Okay, So one of the main reasons I brought up the Lululemon job little more is because I don't know why I like to say that but for some reason everytime I see Lululemon. I want to say a little anyway for fraud. The reason I want to bring up that role of VP of diversity inclusion Equity is not only because I think these jobs are important but also dovetails beautifully into promoting our new series, which is coming up this Wednesday and running through all of October. It's called moving forward. We've brought together twelve young diverse Sports career-focused professionals to discuss their experiences and perspective. Gives growing in the sports industry we're talking about the sports industry through their eyes. Is it representative? Do they feel included? How important is Ally ship having a voice from in Boston organization. These are young men and women who either are just breaking into the sports industry or aspire to now I think one of two things will happen you will listen and think to yourself. Wow. This is just like my experience and it's good to know someone out there is experiencing similar things or you will be enlightened and awakened to the knowledge that our Sports industry is quite different than what they might be seeing. Right my experience in the sports industry is different than a lot of what these young people are dealing with this young divorced group of people and I for one have been awakened in these conversations and I'm a pretty eyes wide open guy. Like I've seen a lot and experienced a lot but still when you listen with an open heart and mind wage Just kind of shift your perspective a little bit. It's an important and valuable content that we've created and I'm excited for you all to hear it and it will start this Wednesday. All right, let's jump into today's fan question. This fan question will remain anonymous because that is the person's request. I received a private message on our Facebook page to work and sports podcast. You can join that group. You can just search for the work and sports podcast on Facebook answer a few quick questions join the group and have great networking opportunities, but I've got this private message from somebody in the group then they asked to remain anonymous. I found it to be an important subject that we should discuss with all of you. So here we are here it is. Hey Brian, I'm dealing with some burn out right now at work. I enjoy my job, but with everything going on in the world right now, it's hard working in minor league sports. I'm incredibly grateful to be employed, but there hasn't been much to work on the last several months making my motivation and interest lower than normal. I wanted to get the conversation job. Added on how other people are dealing with burn out in the workplace. Look, this is a great question. And I'm glad to talk about it. I do want to point out that no one should feel embarrassed or stigmatized by feeling burnout or depression. The fact this person wanted to stay Anonymous means there is a concern that they would be judged by others and that to me is sad and unfortunate and I hope read that we can do better than that. So we're going to have this conversation here anonymously, but I hope everybody out there feels empowered to share their stories and to have this conversation cuz talking about it is important. I also want to stress I am not a doctor or a mental health practitioner. So please if you are having issues with depression or any feeling that you just can't seem to shake talk to a professional. All right. So what is burnout look like if you are feeling these emotions and I'm about to list off lately dealing with some sort of burn out and we'll discuss some ideas to help you through it. If you're feeling is exhaustion, like work-related stress can leave you feeling so wiped out you feel like you can't even move a muscle like if you're feeling exhausted. Even though you're not physically exerted that's a sign if your attitude is really changed. You're if you're physically feeling feeling physically and mentally feeling worn out your your attitude slips to like you're feeling more cynical and if off like your efforts are meaningless depression, I mean, even if it's work that's stressing you out it can seep into other parts of your life and leave you feeling depressed irritability. Do you feel like you're on edge all the time? Like this can be a work or at home and it can just not really be like you feel like yourself you're having trouble concentrating you having difficulty sleeping frequent headaches stomach ache. These are all signs that you may be dealing with burnout or something worse. Okay. Now I'd also like to remove some of the stigma of this conversation by admitting I've dealt with burn out on multiple occasions during my career after seven years at CNN Sports Illustrated. I jumped a Fox Sports Northwest to be the news director and learning an entire New Market hiring staff doing layoffs at one point wage. Thinking ahead building budgets managing staff complaints trying to build a culture it wore on me. I was twenty-eight years old and managing 35 people the real problem for me as I look back was that I had no peers really the people my age were my staff the people who were in management like me were five to ten years older with families and kind of a different perspective. So I didn't really have people to talk to bounce ideas off of or lessen the burden so I felt overworked and under prepared for what the job entailed and I had no way to express or communicate with anybody. There was no platform where I could have these conversations and I was not a happy dude. I was working sixty seventy hours a week and drinking a bottle of wine a night and being just completely transmission here, which I look back at it's really interesting. You don't think of it at the time, but I was I was drinking way too much, but I was more than anything like I look at pictures of myself back then and I just looked like my phone number. Exploded I looked like my skin doesn't look good. Like everything was just wrong about me was tearing me apart in a lot of different ways every one of the emotions I listed above and previously I felt I remember one weekend specifically driving up to Vancouver one weekend with my wife who was competing in a field hockey tournament. I needed to get away like out of the country even it was only three hour drive or less, but I wanted to get away and shut everything off. I was really really looking forward to it Vancouver is beautiful. We were there with friends. I was watching my wife compete. There was no pressure on me whatsoever. They're wonderful Grassfield. It was like Field of Dreams kind of experience a super pure version of sports and I was just engrossed and loving it and everything felt like it was shut off for me. This was like I felt like I was getting better mentally and then my phone rang about 20 times because there was some breaking news with the Seattle Mariners and everybody was looking at me to make a decision off. Would cover it which was my job. That was exactly what I was supposed to be doing. They were doing the exact right thing. I'm not blaming anybody but the mood was lost. The recharge was broken the frustration and irritability came back. I was distracted and absent the rest of the weekend. This was burned out. I stopped feeling energized by my work and excited by it and instead felt burdened. So with that drama out of the way, I'm just trying to be transparent here and say you've got no shame in admitting these things or saying that you feel these wet this way. It's very normal everyone deals with it. I'm one of them. So anyway, let's talk about Solutions release some tactics and strategies. You can try to help yourself through the challenges of burnout and if I may suggest a bottle of wine a night is not a good solution kind of fun, but doesn't really solve the root cause some one thing that I learned from going through experience personally is that I needed to examine my standards and regiment outside of work. It can be easy to focus so much on work demands. That you neglect the basics. Are you getting enough? Sleep are you eating? Well, are you spending any time out outside? Are you moving enough or you staying connected with loved ones either person or or via? Some sort of Technology. This was a covert struggle for me even early on in this this time. I was lucky myself behind my computer all day and wasn't taking enough breaks to walk around or break out of that visual connection to my screen. It wasn't until I literally started scheduling walks with my kids that things started to perk up for me nutrition for me is a big one too. I find during college and when I was starting to feel Restless, the first thing I would do is open a refrigerator, which is not a great habit. Okay. So look at your normal basic routines your regiment outside of work those things important to you and see where you've been slacking off and I don't mean all you need to start a new crazy workout routine and you need to put 45 minutes a day doing sit-ups. I mean just be doing those little things off. Important for you to feel as normal as you can number to examine your current workload and workflow just always really worked for me. I have personally found not this time of covid-19. He analyzed a workflow figure out if it's ridiculously redundant if there are other things you can make into more of a process you're recreating the same thing over and over again, your overall process is flawed, but he's become normalized to it because you've always been busy. Now. What I've done is I've gone back and recreated my guest booking process. My email out treat process is my weekly scheduling process is everything off and and that really means I'm working more effectively now than I was nine months ago which frees up time for me to work around the yard or walk down the street a bit or do something around that can make me feel a little bit better about myself and my life day also working efficiently actually makes me feel I'm accomplishing more and that's important. So ask yourself in what areas of work. Do you feel most overloaded? Is it an over. All over specific tasks? Are there certain areas your workflow where you want more control or flexibility? Can you come up with possible solutions for any of these concerns making your task more efficient can log? You have time and make you feel more accomplished check in the box, you know has some massive endorphin release has like literally checking things off your list and make you feel more empowered. So number three consider scheduling a meeting with your boss or supervisor and a monk. I don't mean this for what are you're probably going to think you're probably thinking like you're going to you want me to you know, go in and complain to them about how you're feeling burnt out. I don't really mean that that's what I what I want you to do is come up with ways that that other ways that you can help Drive the business like if you're feeling like a boredom is a big part of your burn out which is what this girl was from this person you were saying they don't have a ton to do and so they're feeling some boredom and inefficiency and just feeling overall kind of blah right? Well, if you're burning it comes from boredom, which is reasonable. You don't want to complain to your boss because you're happy to have a job but being mentally unchallenged is kind of killing you. Well, I think you should try to come up with some ideas. You can present to your dog. Basta can help Drive the business forward but take note budget now. No budget is important here. Your boss isn't likely going to invest budget and some new ad campaign on Facebook. But if you come up with some creative ideas generate buzz and or organic traffic with no expense that can be invigorating and present you in a great light you're thinking of the business at a bigger way. You're trying to come up with Creative Solutions to the problems you're facing which is you know, no fans no games. That's that's a big problem. But what can you do to keep the brand front and Central with your fanbase come up with some cool ideas come up with some creative like wage try to dig into a different part of your mind. But just remember to stay in your lane, you know, don't try to take somebody else's job be creative in your role that you currently occupy and see if there are ways they you can stimulate the business in a in a way that doesn't cost any money or you can change a process like we were talking about or do something that will affect of the business and have that conversation with your boss and supervisor about these ideal job. Is it can be energizing to continue to work to improve the business in a tangible way but it's still not easy, right? I get it and the 6th V. Yeah, no third among. I should number these things as I write them down set healthy limits for yourself. You should be able to switch off when you leave work for the day to avoid potential overload and exhaustion that can result when your professional and personal lives Collide. So I do this I really like to set daily reasonable goals. It may just be three things. I want to get done and it's just those three things. I tell myself today was successful give yourself healthy limits. The problem with covert work is that with so many of us at home. We blur the line between work and home at 8 p.m. You shouldn't be just checking your work email to see if anything popped up. You should be watching Monday Night Football like you're a little work life should be shut off and put somewhere else. Know when to turn it off. You can't just keep kind of dabbling throughout the day number five, I believe cuz I lost count. So I'm just going to make up the numbers now make time for many miles full brake. See this is a problem when I make my show outline. I make it bullet points and I should have made it numbered. That was a big mistake on my part got fixed that process make time for mini mindful breaks throughout the week. Okay. So even these little brief moments of respite throughout the day can be beneficial. I think it was like five years ago. I read this article that said they did a research study and I'm going to get the X off a little bit. I am I'm sorry. I probably should have done this a show but it was something like if you take a ten-minute break and work 50 minutes. So if you take an hour and you break it down into a ten minute break and fifty minutes of work, you're actually more productive in that 15 minutes, then somebody else is in a full sixty minutes. So that ten minutes of break can actually help to reinvigorate you so don't feel like you need to work straight through throughout the day take a short walk read your faith. Log deep breathing do some stretching meditate for 10 minutes. Do those kind of things and you will actually be more productive which is really cool because I can work less and be more productive. Yes, and that's final one. And I really do think this is the most important seek support do not isolate talk to people talk to people about stuff other than work and politics and covid-19. Seriously this funny story. I think I listen to a podcast about a serial killer last week during a walk and I started a laugh because it was literally the first time in like a wage that I didn't feel totally consumed by my work or our current political standing the pandemic and record unemployment numbers and a tanking economy. Like I was home to a serial killer and totally engrossed in it and that became like a good healthy mental break, which is kind of funny you're listening to a guy who killed people and I was feeling energized and I don't mean it literally like down. So inspiring I just mean like literally took my mind off of everything else that had been stressing me out. So consider talking I guess my bigger point is don't don't feel like you have to listen to a serial killer podcast. But how are you saying like even something that convoluted can actually be a break from all the other things that are stressing you out. So kidding consider talking with trusted co-workers friends and loved ones for support. They might be able to help you sort through your emotions and organize your thoughts and China's put you in a better place and sometimes sometimes sometimes it's not even about talking about the burnout. It's not even talking about you know, what's really got you down that helps right do it. But sometimes it's just having something else to talk about that can really help you get through the other facets. So if you Embrace these things I think you'll be in a better place for Burnout all of these things individually helped me and again. To be transparent here and say that you are not alone when you deal with problems with burnout or work depression or anything of that nature. So don't feel isolated reach out to people have the conversation and I used to do that. Again. Our private Facebook group is pretty cool for this when this person who I posted their question anonymously and she was asking for advice and help they were so many great response and so many great people that cared and that reached out and that had some ideas and advice and things they had tried and so just having those kind of a supporting Community. There's a supporting Community like this can be really impactful. So check out search for the work in sports podcast on Facebook and join the group. It's about two thousand people young professionals trying to get started in the industry guests of the show all different kinds of people who can interact and help each other. So it's power. Thank you again for listening everyone. It's always a pleasure to have you listening. It means the world to me to have you here. It helps us grow when you rate and review And subscribe. It helps us grow in the podcast aggregators, you know, put us off. Iron result and we get more audience and it builds our Network and everything grows from there. We can get great guests and we have all this power and it's awesome. I mean, I just literally got an email from Harris Blitzer sports and entertainment who is off the ownership group for the Sixers and the New Jersey Devils and they came to me trying to pitch guests to be on the show and they pitched six different guests and we're going to have all six of them on those were awesome. But I loved that, you know as we built the brand and it gets bigger and bigger the really top of the line guess started coming to us and saying Hey, I want to be on your show cuz I know it makes an impact with the right people that we want to reach. So the more of you out there listening the more you make that happen in the better the guest continue to get so thank you for everything you do to contribute to the show and make it better and keep an eye on your mental health and remember to invest in things where a mask I don't know why I have to keep reminding me people this but wear a mask. Okay. And make a plan to vote two, very important things off. Thanks everybody.

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"The working towards podcast is brought to you by empowered. This is the most important election of our time, and let's be honest voting during a pandemic is confusing right now there's so much misinformation out there aimed towards making you believe your vote doesn't matter guess what your vote does matter matter of fact, and something I'm very passionate about I received my ballot on Friday. I spent the weekend filling it out and making sure I did everything correctly it didn't take me all weekend. But I wanted to make sure I was throwing correctly and I'll be returning mine to the ballot box as soon as I finish this podcast voting is the most important responsibility of citizens do not give up that power or that right get engaged in formed and ready to vote all with one APP empowered em POW are D I use it. I loved it helped me understand all the intricacies of my ballot and everything to do the right way I felt informed powerful. Top. Athletes are out there supporting this great APP that we want to fight against voter suppression. We want everyone to get out there and vote and empowered is a great tool that is there to help you e. m. p. o. POW R. D. Download the APP today at empowered Dot Com em POW are D- All right let's start the countdown. Fire. Hey everybody I'm Brian Clark vp of content and engaged learning for work working sports, DOT com, and this is the work in sports podcast. Abby Monday everybody I'll admit I'm struggling little getting things rolling this morning but I just finished my Second Cup of coffee and I'm ready to bring the energy now feeling good. Okay. Last week published episode two of our four part moving forward series highlighting ten young diverse aspiring sports professionals on their journey to employment in the sports industry and facing the challenges of social justice. I'm very proud of this conversation so far if you haven't listened yet, please do so the discussions are. I opening I have learned a lot and I'm a pretty like eyes wide open guy. But I still feel like hearing it from somebody else's voice that's living. It is so important this week we published part three on using your voice from inside an organization I'm joined by Miguel Garcia Spinoza Caitlyn Wallin and Devon Walker for a great conversation. So please tune in and download that episode and listened to the press two episodes. All right time for the stat line. What in the world I must hit the wrong button rainy just our director of customer service must have gotten into my music playlist. He's a big. Edm Guy, let's try to get time for the stat. Line. Much better Monday morning I'm not ready for EDM DUB step chat beats yet. Man, do I sound old okay into the data we go. The total number of jobs and work in sport DOT COM, the number one job worked for the sports industry is seventeen. Thousand One, hundred, twenty, four, we have passed seventeen thousand, which is awesome. Two months ago we were fifteen thousand last month sixteen, thousand up to seventeen thousand, and this is a good marker because we're on the were on the path to twenty, five thousand again, which has many of you listening. No was what we were at February prior to Oh virus and we've been building back up. We went down as low as eight and we've been building back up and that's a great indicator for the sports industry we're getting closer and closer to where we were. Now I was just looking at one of our competitors before I started recording. They have six, hundred, eighty, nine jobs total. You tell me where the best chances for you to find a job. You tell me where it's worth spending your time. In the last week, we've added two, thousand, two, hundred and thirty six jobs who our job, which is an average of three hundred and nine jobs posted each day of the week that's opportunity. Our most popular category right now is retail and lifestyle just over seven thousand job opportunities like forty percent of our job board right now is in retail and lifestyle, but I want to better explain this category when do that by having a few really cool jobs a lot of you here retail lifespan you think yeah. Okay. So you're posting a bunch of jobs that are sales associated. Dick's sporting goods not the case. I'm not saying they're not. There aren't any of those in there. There are some there are some fit in the retail retail category. But. Lifestyle applies to all the brands and products that enhance your sports and active life. Okay. That's the lifestyle part. So let's check out a few jobs here. Now when I say lifestyle, you should be thinking Nike Puma under armour, all the different brands, right? Totally true where those jobs are, but there's more. So let's check out a few. Fit Bit. They have a job opening right now for an environmental sustainability program manager. Now, this is just one of the gigs it stood out to a lot actually on our job board right now because I'm doing the environment and sustainability is massive part of who I am Fitbit's one of the Sports Jason. Companies that is in the lifestyle category. They also have a product manager for audience engagement and Program Manager for wearables. Pretty cool stuff. Another cool brand lifestyle category Patagonia. Love this company, they're hiring an equity and performance lead. You'll be responsible for instilling a mindset and culture of equity and inclusion ongoing learning and professional development by designing and implementing organizational and cultural cultural change efforts. Like I'm reading really fast today maybe that is the. Coffee really kicking in. So maybe my minds working quickly. That's good. Okay. Patagonia great company lots of different jobs with us, and I love that that's another one that fits in the lifestyle category nother big one. Have you heard of Xhosa digital x s digital. If you haven't, and this is what I love about our site is we introduced you companies and jobs and roles. He made never even heard of before, but they're very connected to the sports industry. Experts digital. When you hear of coaches directly after game jumping on their IPAD and watching cups of game video like right after the game finishes or sitting in a dark room, watching video and scouting, they are using digital. xhosas the leader in sports performance analytics, they're the company that creates all of the ability to visually demonstrate what's happening a game and categorize things. So like a coach can literally do a search for Denver broncos through dirt. Third and long defense inside the forty like what are they? What do they tendencies? What are their tendencies? What do they do? What does it look like and it's all categorized all there for you and this is the tool that most teams use like to the extreme mazing company they're hiring a senior product manager. If you WanNa Work in coaching Scouting Department at team analytics, you may be thinking to yourself I gotta get in on the ground floor, the team, and that would be great but this is also the kind of way you can enter the industry would be a great gig learn the skill to one hundred understand the tool in the way it can be used by coaches and teams. And you'll. Be In. Demand Now. These are all these are three examples of jobs in our retail and lifestyle category that are way beyond just being sales associated Dick. Sporting. Goods no offense at Dick's sporting goods. We Love Dick Sporting goods matter of fact. They should sponsor this show. And that's the stat line for this week. Wrong music try that again Better okay. Time for today's question from Paul New Hampshire. Brian. I'M GONNA finish I'm just about to finish college and I'm just starting my job search I'm pretty fired up. Excited hopeful. But also kind of scared about the job prospects working sports dot com has been invaluable asset. I've been exposed to companies, roles and opportunities that I never knew existed and don't even get me started on the podcast. You've literally changed my life and approach. I love the new segment highlighting the job data and it really gives me hope. Question for you with so many jobs being remote and interviews taking place over video and everything being remote in general. Are there certain traits or skills? I should be emphasizing in order to stand out? Paul I love this question see sometimes the questions you guys sent in really sparked me to think about things a little bit differently and I love that to thank you Paul. I have been thinking about this a lot lately because I'm in this hike I always make forming people how to approach the interview process or approach their cover letter and those things have to change they have to adjust based on where we are at the current time. What I mean by that is I was hiring somebody right now and I knew they'd be working remote for the foreseeable future I may be looking for different traits or aptitude their skills that I would be if I was hiring someone who would come into our office each day and I could monitor train and motivate. So, Paul your question is great because you hit on something that can really help this group stand out. Let's lean into this. I always talk about soft skills and their importance things like passion work ethic leadership. All very important. Still in this resume remote world, there are a few other soft skills you want to weave into your cover letter and your interview process here five number, one, maturity and reliability. When you work remote the organization has to trust. You will get the job done and work effectively without them having to hover over you all day. Pointing out how mature responsible and reliable you are can really help you go the distance a lot of our military veterans who are trying to say like I might not have as much job experience, but I have these other traits. This is one you should really into maturity and reliability. Your. Your military experience starts to exude that you need to emphasize it because something that can really set you apart right now and anybody out there that can tell stories about their maturity and reliability can really be beneficial. Number two communication. Can You Establish Trust and rapport via slack zoom in email? We're working in a different world. They'll be able to get across that. You can still function effectively in this way number three independence. Now I know I talked about maturity and reliability and doing what you're expected but. There also has to be this feeling. that. You can work and achieve without constant supervision because you will have a lot of time where you are isolated from everyone and that you need to work independently. So you need to get across that. You are not only mature and reliable, but you're also able to work independently and be successful number four initiative. You don't wait to be instructed or need somebody hovering over you or need the pressure of a work environment to get things done that you get right after it and number five cross functional collaboration. Not only can you work in your team in a remote world and make progress and advise and consult and get things done but also you can work across other groups to work remotely but still interact with and get things done with other groups within the with other groups within the organization. That's how this world is working right now. So anything you can do distress those skills. Now remember the key to expressing yourself skills isn't to write a cover letter that says I am mature reliable, communicative, independent have great initiative and work collaboratively. That is just telling me what you are. I want you to show me what you are. This is my seventh grade literature teacher coming through Mrs Altman, my favorite teacher of all time. She should say all the time show me don't tell me show me don't tell me and this is stuck with. Mason. Seventh Grade. Tell me a story undercover cover letter shine a light on your personal achievements accomplishments that will show you how these skills rather than just telling me. You do don't just tell me that you have great initiative show me. Geen, example, tell me a story if I was hiring right now these are literally the top five soft skills it'd be demanding from anyone higher. I don't WanNA bring in a new staffer that sits and waits to instructed each step of the way take initiative I. Don't want to have someone who I don't trust is working a full schedule and instead of just going through the motions and doing the bare minimum. You want someone who's mature communicates well and works with pride show this often your process. Now. As far as questions that might come up in the interview process that you should be prepared for. They will be the basics you know have you ever worked remote environment before what tools and software to use to communicate effectively those are easy right you should be able to handle those in your sleep, but also expect bigger questions like these. How do you manage your time and stay organized? How do you stay motivated and engaged when working from home? How you Hannah Workplace conflict or disagreements? How do you get team projects done in a row world? How you stay? How do you maintain an active voice on your team in a remote world? Let's break these down a little and you'll notice a theme of transparency and honesty. Remember, if you're working in a remote situation, the more transparent, you can be about what you were doing when you were there how active you are what you're accomplishing. Is really good that goes to breeding to building trust case the first question manager Thomas they organize how do you made your time is GonNa. Transparency is key here. Emphasize tool you use that will let everyone see what you're up to your calendar Google Docs slack. Trello Asana hub spot emphasize those tools you use to stay focused and organized. That are also transparent. It's not about big brother watching you just WanNa tell them I'm not afraid of you seeing what I'm doing when you weren't afraid for people to see what you're doing they feel less inclined to have to track you so it's like inversely correllated. The more transparent I am the less somebody feels like they need to watch me. Okay, how do you stay motivated engaged when working from home? This is where you need to be really honest in the way you like to work if you're the type that sets yourself on it and exacting schedule and has a has to have a closed quiet room. Say. So if you like to constantly be on slack and keep in touch with everyone in chattel they. Say So. If you like do you have your day broken up? I walked around the neighborhood and break out of your office from time to time. Say. So they're asking this question about how you stay motivated engaged. And they're looking to be honest and know yourself and what you need because what you don't want for somebody to not know how to operate and keep themselves motivated in this environment you want somebody that understands themselves knows what they need is willing to express it. Were conflicts or disagreements how do you handle where conflicts and disagreements look conflicts happened in the workplace? That much is a given happens all the time. But in a remote workplace, there's a greater propensity for the problem to be unresolved and swept under the rug. Unresolved, problems fester and caused bigger problems. Your goal here is to make it clear. You handle problems as they come. And directly as you can. So they don't fester and caused bigger problems than you understand the importance of dealing with things had on even if you're not seeing somebody face to face. And finally, remote projects to completion. How do you get remote projects done? How do you work across teams in person collaboration isn't an option you don't get to flop down on the comfy couches or beanbag chairs talk through your project in front of a whiteboard. So how will you work communication is huge in this question make it clear to complete projects requires a lot of upfront communication planning organizing and strategizing. To make sure everyone is on the same page and that you have to over communicate that you understand everyone understands goals and timelines leadership an over communicating are essential k. using all the tools and bringing it altogether. But that's how you're going to get projects on this by establishing a clear path of communication, a lot of up front work to plan and organize and timeline, and then staying on top of everything. Okay, you should see from all these answers. It's not that much different from for remote jobs and interviews than it would be for in person but there are some subtle shifts here themes like transparency honesty and communication are huge can't be on an island. Be Comfortable with expressing your desire to communicate actively be visible with your schedule. The more transparent you are the more trusted breeds and be honest with what you need no suffering in silence. Paint a picture you can be the connective tissue of your new team group together sparking conversation through online tools and more. That you do Paul thanks for a great question. Make sure to tune in. Wednesday for part three of our moving forward series and as always make a plan to vote and please please please wear a mask. Another woods yet.

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Five, four, three. Hey everybody. I'm Brian Clap of content and engaged learning at work in sports, DOT COM, and this is the work in sports podcast. Before we get into the stat line. Week published part one of our part four part series titled Moving Forward and I just want to say, thank you for all the really positive responses we've received so far equality is an important subject sports should be the ultimate meritocracy both on the field and in the offices, the best should rise no matter what they look like no matter what their gender. But that isn't always the case we need to fix that and so often that starts with conversations where our eyes are opened. I'd like to consider myself a pretty empathetic person. I put myself in the shoes of others pretty often. But to hear someone else's experience in their own words his so powerful and it was moving to me when Gerald Taylor explained in episode one just how much it meant for him as a young black man to have Jason Right named team President of the Washington football team. Because it helps them see that it's possible. You could feel it. When? jalen Mitchell in nineteen year old Howard. Student nineteen years old explained. The Not everyone has to be on the front lines in the fight for social justice, but everyone does have a role. The maturity Envision Passion of this nineteen year old man gave me chills. It makes a difference to hear the conversation to hear it in their voices so I would implore you to go back and listen. I'll admit I put a lot of effort of the series and want to see it be successful. But I had a bit of an epiphany last week. Thanks to some friends you know who you are. And I way Kim the conclusion of is I really don't care how many downloads that we have. You know every week when I published a show, I look for download numbers. How do how wide this one do? Well, I tried to learn from it and this time I've totally detached myself from that because I know that the people who do listen will be impacted and even just one set of years that are opened. And maybe the conversation shifts perspective a bit and open themselves up to their role in progress. That that right there. That's the marker of success. It's not about cumulative numbers. It's not about trend lines. It's not about anything else. It's about changing one perspective or twenty or whatever every little bit helps. So thank you for being a part of it and for listening to, and hopefully you will be as impacted as I have been partout comes up this week with destiny, Jones and Alex Rodriguez Alex's account executive with the El Paso chihuahuas destinies a recent graduate of Osu. The Ohio State University wants to get into sports philanthropy. We talk a lot about ally ship, which is a really interesting subject for a lot of us to understand embrace great conversation. Okay. Thanks for tuning in. Let's get to the stat line. Okay. We're GONNA Jim through the numbers pretty quick because I have a very important message to get across not preachy it all it's literally sports career he kind of message. So stick with me on working sports dot com the number one job board for the sports industry there are currently sixteen thousand, four, hundred, ninety, three active jobs that's up about one percent from last week. So basically flat pretty much exactly. The same but steady and good sixteen thousand, five, hundred s jobs is pretty good. We had one, thousand, eight, hundred, eighty, nine fresh new active jobs this past week, which is an average of two hundred and seventy new jobs a day. That's awesome. Lots of reasons to come back to the daily and see what's up. Okay. So those are the two big data points. Now, I have a quick explainer to get to. For the last few months I've been telling you all about me and creative I've been speaking in college classrooms across the country and on this podcast and get asked all the time where the jobs and the sports industry. Now, where's the job growth what's happening and what's current what's going on and my answer has been pretty consistent over the last nine ten months. The answer in the data like from our data from our job postings has been the most popular areas are media creative. Tech. Data. And retail lifestyle. Those are the categories we've seen the most growth growth in normally it's a sales oriented world revenue generation. Those numbers have dropped off a lot those job opportunities these other areas of come up I've explained why in the past media creative, there's a huge appetite for content the tech data, east boards, analytics, all those. Areas are really bumping and retail lifestyle ECOMMERCE Puma under armor. Nike. You know all those different companies doing really well and selling their products. So. You might be hearing me sale this talking about media creative and how it's all doing really well, and then you see headlines saying ESPN is on the verge of laying off hundreds of employees and you hear that and you say maybe Brian. What he's talking about. Well both things can be true way. Let me restate that I don't mean that I don't know what I'm talking about and ESPN is doing layoffs. Those are the two things I'm talking about I mean ESPN can be laying people off and media creative can still be thriving. Let me explain. Two points on ESPN because they are different than a lot of other organizations and they may not be the best one to look at for trend analysis or for a category. Analysis. ESPN is owned by Disney. ESPN itself as a business line item actually performed quite well in their fiscal third quarter. But Disney, the parent company bombed nobody's going to Disneyland or Disney world. They're all pushing back there. Movies revenue at Disney is down. This affects the entire business model and can result in cost cutting across organizations. So the cuts at ESPN aren't necessarily an indictment of the sports media. It's about the larger, Organization of Disney K. It's the larger impact of these massive conglomerates when you see a large company that's owned by a parent company. So if you see some radio station is owned by Entercom or something like that, and they make cuts, you have to look a little bit deeper and say, is this indicative of the Sports Category? And media creative or the sports radio or whatever it is or is it about the larger business? K. Point to about ESPN. These really large media organizations that I've worked for in the past and even just large organizations like Nike or you know some of these other really lowers organizations. They tend to have a machine like mentality and what mean by that is people don't really multi task. They don't have a variants of roles they have very specific roles. You do this exact thing. Now, this can create a bit of a bloated staff, but in good time, it works very effectively and efficiently. So when things are humming and everybody knows exactly what they're supposed to do, it works like a machine all functions really well. When things start to stall the economy and other problem based on current virus and our current status. And Your parent company is losing money the accountants command to look at places to trim they see high salaried announcers and some redundant staffing and they say, you know you think we can combine some people here where they can start doing multiple things and having some versatility. Thank you can get your best people the multitask a bit and do some multiple roles instead of being so overstaffed and that's what leads to cuts in staffing at a huge or like ESPN. They're probably overstaffed when times are going really well, and then when time start to slip off they. They start to cuts. Now, this is painful because I have a lot of friends that work at Espn but this is something you need to look at as an organization as a sense for when we talk about media creative. What we talk about what I'm talking about is that there's a demand across all organizations to bring content in house and they realize that is very cheap powerful to create and develop your own content. But the you might also see somebody who is a leader in the segment. Yes but we have other influences that are affecting our business, and so we need to pull back some K-. Some other words don't have the same pressures ESPN. They aren't feeling the pressure of Disney theme parks, attendance numbers instead what they're seeing that there is a huge appetite for digital social and broadcast creative content, and so that's what I mean by both things can happen ESPN can be laying people off and media creative can be a growing section of the sports industry. So while ESPN may be cutting back teams, leagues, organizations, and other sports. Adjacent companies are pushing content and pushing media growth because the opportunities are there. Both things can be true. Okay. So with that in mind. Which? Brings us to my three favorite jobs the week. Job Number One we're going with the media creative theme here. Sports digital on air social talent for soccer at CBS. Experiences a content creator and talent with a keen understanding of digital platforms. This is a prime example CBS gets a contract with the Champions League. They're doing a lot more broadcast they're looking to expand upon that they want a specific sports digital on air social talent for soccer. So think about that. It's not even like we need an anchor in an analyst we needed somebody behind the set and Blah Blah Blah for broadcast. This is like we went on air just digital right focused on soccer, and this is one of their new broadcast deals they've purchased they purchased the rights to broadcast in the Champions League, and so this is like they're going out. Okay. Job Number two. Live production coordinator for Temple University, there are tons of content jobs in college athletics in addition, to pro, sports. The live video production coordinator will be integral. I. Like to say integral. I don't know why to the operation of temple athletics production facilities as well as the production of all ESPN PUP plus broadcast further duties include but are not limited to directing technical directing and operation of replay graphics. Machines during live productions is all stuff that I'm pretty familiar with and I get kicked up about live production. But College every college especially D- One schools has some sort of production video production. Even the smaller schools do a lot of streaming do a lot of ways of current connect with their target audience. So there's a lot of media and and content jobs on the university side as well and the third job. K. We're taking media creative do a whole different level here. This is in East sports now digital producer for team liquid. Did, you have a passion for the art of storytelling, East sports and gaming. Okay. This is a whole `nother side of things. Are you innovative in First Atoll when conceptualize, and creating and executing content. So now think about this, you've got e sports during this whole mix of media in content. Team liquid specific team in the East sports ecosystem and I'm not even that familiar with sports. Really. But I look at these jobs and I'm like this is a whole nother creative outlet for people that are connected to sports in gaming and can get into, and this is a great starting point. So we got jobs in media creative that are in East Sports College Board, Pro Sports massive broadcast networks. They're all out there. Those are growing areas. So that's my point in today's stat line. Get to question Joey this question comes in from. Gina in California Gina Asks Hi Brian I'm a twenty five year old college graduate who wants to get into the sports. Industry. Let me back up a second I graduated college with a degree in accounting, and for the last four years I've been quite successful as an accountant I don't like it. That's a problem for me. I'm not the type to just keep doing what I'm doing I want to thrive. I've always had a passion for sports and I just think could be happier person in that industry. So what do I do here? Thank you for your guidance. You are the man I love your podcast and there is no one I'd rather get advice from then you. Okay. So if you are wondering right now, did I select this topic because of the last sentence genus shared well, you aren't wrong. But it is also a hugely important topic. We get a lot of people writing in about crear changing, which makes cents. It's not all that easy for you to decide who you want to be for the rest of your life when you're seventeen or eighteen years old and college trying to declare a major right. Plus when you're making this decision, you are often trying to please mom and dad saying you're at a major in sports management may not elicit the greatest responses from your folks because they might not realize how serious and. Profitable, this industry is they may be just thinking you are planning to Kufa off on their dime. So instead you choose to be an accounting major because it sounds serious your parents are happy but you're not maybe like numbers you have some interest in finance, but this existence isn't really you. So you do this for a couple of years you Sittin cubicle, you master excel spreadsheets, run profit, and loss statements all day calculate taxes after few years you're on your own surviving you're doing fine but you're no longer dependent on the parents. And you think to yourself, what the hell am I doing is this really me is what I want to be doing for the rest of my career. And without the burden of parental judgment you think now is the time to change and you reach out to me. So. This scenario really isn't that far fetched it plays out daily. I, know. From tons of friends I've had in the industry or tons of friends that I've known just through life that there is this pressure when you're in college to do something that sounds serious. What you wish you could do is do both sound serious and you enjoy it but that doesn't always happen. So you end up going in this creagh and talking to take to walk down this career path and you find out like it and you try to switch right? That's where we are now. So. Let's get into the idea of career transformation. If you've gone down a path, you don't love now is the time to recalibrate and it's all about transferable skills you need to focus on mapping your current experience and learn skills to the demands of the sports industry now. Jana I'm not gonNA speak specifically about accounting I'll make some references in there, but I'm going to talk in a broader sense so it applies to everyone, but you'll be able to calibrate yourself based on this information. Your goal is simple. Demonstrate that your career experienced to date the things you have accomplished directly connect to your value that you would bring to the sports industry and any organization. What I would do is begin by writing down all of your acquired skills from school and from your job, broad skills, finance budgeting, accounting, human resources, analysis planning organizations, sales, marketing, digital content creation. Then also get into very specific skills right down Microsoft Dynamics, photoshop hubs, Spot Python, final cut pro things, specific skills, and traits that you can execute on programs software whatever. came. Right always goes down in a spreadsheet and don't edit at this point. Put it all out there. This is more like a brainstorming session. Make sure you know yourself and you can give yourself kind of persona, write it all down. We may condense skills later on and combined some stuff but his all brainstorming on you right now and what you bring to the table. This is essentially as you look at it, this is your value statement. Now, take off the lens of where you're currently working. These are just things you can do to improve a business and here's the big reminder. Sports is a big business. That's it. Sports is a big business k now maybe through this exercise, you realize I really do love accounting I just don't like it. I. WanNa do it for a sports focused business or maybe you realize you know my favorite part of my job is in analysis. So maybe I should look into business analyst jobs. You're trying to create your value story to an organization and learn what skills you currently have that translate to the sports industry. That's how you get hired. Okay. So now you have collaborated all your skills and dump them into a spreadsheet. I suggest you now put a score next to each one of how much you actually like doing that thing just because you can do it. Doesn't mean you enjoy it and I'm all for enjoying your work life. Especially, if you're transferring to a new role, like why would you be upset in a role then transferred to another role that doesn't really kind of do it for you just because it has a sports wrapper on it. You. Don't WanNa jump careers only to be doing something you still don't like. So once you've isolated those skills, you really love start doing some searches on our job board for those specific skills. Dismay. Not Help you find the job for, but it will help clarify where you may fit search search for a term like dynamics as he has in. Microsoft. Dynamics or python or photoshop or budgeting. Search for the things you really love and things you can definitely do well, and you'll start to see these opportunities will fill up your search results and you can start to look through these jobs and say, Ooh that sounds like fun that sounds interesting and look I have the skills that map to this job. Again, we're gathering information you now have a persona on. And what you are good at you know what you love and you're starting to map to wear those jobs that fit you and your passions exist. You're creating target roles and target companies because you've started to see where you fit right. You are also determining which of your skills are most transferable to the sports industry. So, now, the next phase of this is how to show off the skills, you yourself and these skills. Transferable skills are your ticket to prove that you're the right candidate for the role. Okay. So number one. Update, your Lincoln profile to highlight these skills that you have identified as most transferable and most enjoyable and the skill section actually linked in profile is really important highlight. Your most transferable skills here because on linked in that field is keyword searchable for recruiters and hiring managers. When they're searching for certain mix of people. Discuss section is actually something that will. Is Part of the Algorithm to help those results be as targeted as possible. So make sure you update that part also focus on your about section. So you start to treat that almost a little bit like your cover letter to explain like why you're a match for these things and what skills you bring to the potential organization. Number to update your cover letter and tell me a story of what you've done where you've been and why it is important to make the jump to sports. Tell me about you your passion and why sports matters tell me about being accountant but not having that passionate fire for your industry. This is where you need to be and where you are meant. To, be like, give me that passion story like so make it connect the dots for me i. see the your experience on your resume is as an accountant will, why are you applying for this job done? Tell me your story give me some insight into you and your cover use that emotional tug in there so that I can are to see like. Your somebody that has a passion for sports you are in finance currently but where you want to be is in sports finance or whatever it is like and why you WanNa be there in how your skills match up and why you bring such enthusiasm to the table like give me your story game number three reworked resume to highlight the skills that are most applicable to each job you're applying for make sure the transferable skills are highlighted within your past experience. With jobs you're applying for. Applicant tracking systems are looking for exact skills, right? So if I am A. Hiring for a job and I list out these skills that I wanna have applicant tracking systems will bring back those employees or those potential hires that have those skills. If you highlight the skills because they fit the role and you have them, it doesn't matter that much if your experience was with John Deere or in Indianapolis Colts you have the skills for the role and that's important. So make sure you're highlighting those things. Number four apply only for jobs that match your skill set. You spent all this time identifying which skills are transferable to the sports industry that you currently have, and then if you start applying for jobs, those things don't line up you don't stand out. Jobs that match your transferable skills are the key. If you have a background in accounting start applying for content jobs in the sports media, you will not be noticed and you'll get frustrated and you'll think this is impossible. The transition to a new industry takes steps. If your ultimate goal is to work in content creation something, you have no real experiencing I focus on jobs in sports that fit your skill set transferring industries. You've gotta start where you have experienced and skills. Once you get in, you can start to network and learn volunteer in other departments and start to maybe change your career path a little bit. But I you have to get in. So stay in your lane for a bit Kayce, stay where your experiences leverage those those transferable skills and get in there. Okay. The final point I WANNA make. You need to frame your mind in a confident manner. If you go into this idea of transferring industries and career changing, thinking how they'll never want me, I got this experience over here. They're not going to hire me they're going hire somebody that has different experience and Blah Blah Blah, you're already defeated. If you think about it that way here's what you need. You remember most organizations love to hire people from the outside. Here's why when I was in charge of hiring and I know this from interviewing hundreds of people in this podcast. when I was in charge of hiring at Fox, sports northwest and other places. I would look at I wanted to promote from within fifty percent of the time, and then I wanted to hire from the outside fifty percent of the time and what I mean by that is when you have higher from within promote from within, you send a message jere entire staff like hey. If you work hard and you do everything right. You're going to be promoted here. You're like you're going to have career opportunities here. That's a really important message to send out. The other half the time though I'd be hiring from the outside and they could still be within the industry, but I'm hiring to an outside business. Whether that's at you know I'm I'm recruiting somebody from ESPN to come work for my network recruiting somebody that worked in content for I. Some finance company, it doesn't matter. What I'm looking for is they're bringing their outside knowledge to my organization. They're bringing their outside business sense and things they've learned from a different industry or from a different organization and they're bringing them to my organization, and that can really strengthen us. So if you go into this process thinking I add value because of my past experience not in spite of its. You will go into this in a stronger more confident position realized that there are a lot of sports employers that love to hire people from outside businesses because they bring in outside. Now other best practices and other ways of doing things that can be really effective in the long run. So don't go into this process to feed it. Realize it is one hundred percent possible to transfer into the sports industry as long as you figure out where those transferable skills are that where your skills match up with the opportunities that are in the industry and start working those angles. JANA, that should do it for today we covered a lot there I feel like thanks for listening everyone tune into partout of moving forward on Wednesday. I'm very proud of this episode just like am every other episode but I think you guys will really like it rate and review the podcast wherever you listen that helps us a ton and continue to be awesome. All of you are awesome and I know that because I know a lot of you and you are really impressive incredible people. Where mask planned to vote? Thanks everybody. Have a great day.

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Why Bother With Networking? Work In Sports Podcast

The Work in Sports Podcast - Insider Advice for Sports Careers

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Why Bother With Networking? Work In Sports Podcast

"The work in sports podcast is brought to you by empowered. This is the most important election of our time and let's be honest voting during a pandemic wage a little confusing right now. There is so much misinformation out there aimed towards making you believe that your vote doesn't matter. So why should you bother well your vote home is matter voting is the most important responsibilities of citizens. Do not give up that power or that right get engaged informed and ready to vote off with one app. It's called empowered empowered, you know, who is engaged informed and ready to vote with empowered Trey flowers a Detroit Lions Whitney. Mercilus Easton Texans, Justin Reed to the Houston Texans affrunti Simmons of the Portland Trailblazers. I'm talking with my hands right now. I just knocked over my lamp. I get a fired up about this stuff. All of these top athletes are out there. Supporting this great app that will make it easier for you to get all the information you need to vote download the app today at empowered. That's e m p l a r d. All right. Let's start the countdown. 5430 ignition. Hey, everybody off Bryan Clapp TP of content and engaged learning at work and sports.com. And this is the work in sports podcast new feature big hit got a lot of positive feedback on our new Segway. So let's jump right into the stat line. All right, quick recap of the week that was in the World of Sports employment through the lens of working sports.com. The number one job or Sports industry. We have all the data we've been doing this for 20 years. Okay, three main data points and Trends keep you informed on where the market is right now. We'll start with the Top Line number there a 15556 Active Sports jobs posted on working sports.com. That's a good healthy number. Now. This is down 1.3% week-over-week, but as always all data needs context in the last week. We added 3302 new Active Sports job. So think about that game last week plus seven days since the last time we had this conversation 3302. Newly Active Sports jobs. That's an average of 471 new jobs per day. That's a bath. I'm pin number and that's an increase of 27% week-over-week. Okay last week when I had the stat line I talked about how we added. I think it was twenty four hundred jobs right around this week 3,300 an increase of 27% week-over-week. So you may be asking how can you add 3302 jobs this week and still have less overall jobs. I just told you we went down 1.3 in our overall number. Well, that's actually another really good indicator for the support state of our industry what this means is there was churn you'll see activity on our job board where there's jobs going out and jobs coming in that's called churn rate right jobs going out means that they were filled and so people were filling jobs and pulling them off our job board and they're adding new jobs. This is a positive activity level. You don't want to see this is too far skewed in one direction of the other tons of jobs out there. Nothing being filled or off. No jobs out there. No, nothing being filled, right you're or you know, just stuff getting pulled off the site. You want to see a positive activity level jobs coming off the board jobs getting added to the board. That's a good thing. Okay final part of the stat line 3 awesome jobs added this week. This part is subjective. I'm choosing this isn't data. This is me. Okay number one choice communication and digital media internship with the USA team handball. Look, I don't know anything about handball other than the fact I think I would be awesome at it. But the opportunity to learn these skills for a national governing body is kind of thing that will stand out in your resume. So check that out. It is a nationwide role there. It's virtual and there's a lot of great opportunity there number two. Play-by-play broadcaster for the San Diego seals. Now who are the San Diego seals? They are a national lacrosse league team in San Diego. I like San Diego. That's why I picked this job. Only problem I have is that in San Diego? Nothing should be indoors. Seriously everything from showering to sports should be required to be outdoors in San Diego. Just no excuse to ever be inside home. And finally, I've been in the sports industry for twenty plus years and I'm still introduced to new jobs and companies every damn day. And here's one example our final job comes from baller TV who I heard of for the first time this morning. This is one of the great attributes of our site is that you'll find out about teams organizations and companies that you didn't even know existed before that's what happens when you have 15,000 + jobs. It's a lot of stuff out there that you're getting exposed to now. What is Bollard TV based in Miami? They are looking for live sports event coordinator off. Usually coordinator rules are entry-level. Is this something you guys should take a look at baller TV according to my research is a venture-backed startup that is building the world's largest Sports network from the ground up which sounds ambitious don't anybody tell ESPN cuz I think they consider themselves. The world's largest Sports Network. That's okay gotta compete can't let them get gotta knock off the king sometimes right? All right. That was the stat line. Do you like that segment any other stats? You want me to add message me on LinkedIn or join our private Facebook group by searching for the work in sports podcast on Facebook. And remember a work in sports membership is just $8 for the first month. You can get access to all of these jobs and way way way way way way more. All right, we'll get today's fan question from Wyatt in Pennsylvania. Hey, I need a little convincing on the power of networking. I'm not a natural networker. I don't really like it and I'm not fully convinced it convinced. It matters in the long run. Can you help convince me? That is an effort worth undertaking good question. Why it thanks for asking and I'll preface this by saying I'm not a natural Network or either. But it's worth it and it's worth it to get out of your comfort zone and work on all explain. Why? Okay, why do a lot of people not gravitate towards Mark networking because our society page right now, our mentality is towards this just Add Water process, right? I do something and I get instantaneous results and networking doesn't really work. That way networking does not have quick returns usually speaking. It takes time. It takes time to build a relationship. It takes time to really work your way through knowing people and knowing the right people it takes time to build a connection with somebody where you can then a comfortable to have a deeper conversation. It takes time to be visible in their world. You may start networking efforts and not see results for six to twelve months and that's the fact and that's why I took enough people do it is because they're looking for instantaneous responses. Now, here's the deal we always talk about how there's four main pillars of getting hired in the sports industry wage. It's gaining the right type of experience understanding your Marketplace and what's needed and making sure you have those skills and as experiences making sure you have a number two is making sure you have an incredible Network number is your portfolio items your resume your cover letter your personal brand and number four is actually the skill of interviewing. All four of those things are essential any one of those things. You're not very strong in and you're going to be home networking is part of that plan networking and building up the people that you know in the industry that can be an asset to you in your future. This is all an important part of the overarching principle of getting hired in the sports industry. But again, if you go into it with the wrong frame of mind, if you go into it the wrong mentality thinking I'm going to put these effort in and I'm going to get tons of followers on LinkedIn. I'm tons of connections and these people are going to help me. I'm going to get a job, you know in in two months or even in a couple of weeks or I'm going to start asking for things you're going to be disappointed. You're going to think the process isn't working you have to log In your mind around this concept of networking takes time, but it pays off in the long run. Okay now with the process for and with the mentality that you want to have for Network. It's really about building relationships. You are not not not coming out and asking for things you need to have a strategy and approach that is focused on building a relationship and connection a dividing value to others. Okay. Now I end up going and speaking in a lot of different college campuses and this is a subject that comes up a lot but I do the college campus talks all on my own time at home. I do to give back and part of webinars and part of series or whatever and you know what this thing I get back out of it is that it starts to build my network as well. I get to make a lot of new connections. That way I get to know a lot of different people in the industry investors and other panelists and whatever it takes time, though, all these things take time and it's contingent upon you once you identify the people that you want to build a network with them. You are strategic about it that you go about it in the right Manner and what I mean by that is that you have a long-term vision and that you're willing to be active and visible. Now. Let's let's back up for a second here. There are some people out there that you will talk to their will tell you networking is you know, activity driven and you should connect with as many people as possible and some people take that information and they turn that into I'm going to go on LinkedIn and hit add connection, you know or connect with this person connect with this person. Can I go this just clicking buttons, right? That actually does absolutely nothing for you. You are not actually building a relationship with this person. I have I don't know ten thousand connections on LinkedIn and I can tell you that maybe I know six or seven hundred of them. It's a smaller much smaller number than the actual number of connections I have because most of those people have just clicked a button and said I want to connect with you and I've accepted I don't actually know them. I don't know their names. I wouldn't recognize them. I wouldn't recognize anything about them. I couldn't tell I couldn't provide them any value cuz I've never actually had a conversation with them. This is a useless Endeavor to me, right? This is a completely I'm with stupid. I'm stupid. It's a really stupid waste of time right to just click buttons and add people and then think to yourself. I've got five thousand people in my network. It's awesome know the strength of your network is based on the number of relationships. You have down the number of people that are in it. So, how do you go about this? Well, you you're active and you're visible and I want to do that. I want to I want to tell you a story. I want to I want to this story time. Okay active listener in this show Gregory. Goodman is his name and we're going to tell his story kind of briefly, right? So on the podcast host on my interviewing all these people and I'm out there and I'm pretty active on social media and Gregory becomes a listener Gregory Gregory. From Roanoke, Virginia. He's really good dude. Okay, but I didn't know this to start Gregory started listening to the show and he started becoming more visible in my world. He connected on LinkedIn. He sent me a note referencing a particular show. He was part of our private Facebook group. He started asking questions in there and posting comments and I started to see his name a lot. He actually sent a gift package from the team that he was working for. He gave me gift package now again, it's not always about giving gifts and not saying that but again These are nice moments. He sent a gift package for my kids cuz I talked about them on One show he worked for the Roanoke Rail Yard Dawgs, which is a minor league hockey team. I'm think I'm getting that straight but he worked for them at the time and so he sent a little care package with a like a beanie hat and like a jersey for the kids or whatever for my kid. It was super cool that make Gregory always stand out in my mind, but more than that, even it was the activities that he was doing right he was visible when I posted things on the internet, he'd make a comment on a show he'd make a have a dog. Good question. He was involved he was active. He was visible. Well, how does any of this end up benefiting Gregory? Because you know, that's what the ultimate goal is right is like if Craig's just doing other things but not getting any benefit out of it and that seems like a fruitless effort to but I'll tell you it does matter because just a couple of weeks ago Gregory mentioned to me said hey, I'm interviewing for a job or I'm applying for a job with the Cleveland Indians in their diversity and inclusion department. And he knows that one of my connections is malyn who who's the director of talent acquisition for the Cleveland Indians? And so he just said nicely. He said hey, I'm applying for this job. If you have the opportunity, could you just mention it to mail in that I'm sending you my resume. He didn't ask me to help him get the job. He didn't ask me for anything like a referral or anything of that nature. He wasn't asking for things other than to say can you just make mention of it? So that she sees my materials now. I took that and went a step further because I've gotten to know Gregory. I like Gregory. I like to add one of them. We do this I forgot about this but I'm thinking of it as I'm talking now. I don't script these things out. It's just you and me talking you and all of us. Okay Gregor one other thing he did he provided value and I'm going to go deeper into this in a second. He provided value to me. I'm on the other end of his Network, right? He wants to network with me. He wants to get to know the people that I know and so I always talk about on this podcast is providing value to those people that you want to be associated with right Gregory and people are always asking me like well, how do I provide value? I'm a college senior. I'm of this some of that or whatever like what what can I bring to the table Gregory gives a perfect example, he contacted me at one point and said, hey, do you think Lawrence sister who is a reporter on a sec Network would be a good guest for your show and I was like, yeah, she'd be great and he goes great. I'm going to introduce you to our I know off her because we've interacted some now. He stuck his neck out there. Get out of his comfort zone a little bit and introduced me to Lauren and Lauren was on the show and was an incredible incredible guest that's providing value and you know, what time? Providing value can be something even simpler than that. It can be I saw this like if you're let's say you're trying to connect with somebody with a certain team or whatever and you see an article that is about their team. It's positive about their team you share with them. Hey, I just saw this article about your team. Congratulations as must be really great for organization that's providing value to your having a valuable conversation or you sharing some data point or sharing some interesting thing you learned or whatever. It may be providing value being visible being active. Now Gregory again, he comes to me with the Cleveland Indians gig and so he asked you just like, can you just let her know it's you know that I applied for the job and see if I can get near the you know, at least noticed and I said, I'll go one better. I'll reach out to her today. And the point of me bringing this up is that Greg is worked in building relationship with me for a year now probably maybe even longer than that. I bought a key moment where he wanted to cash in that connection and he didn't even do it in a forceful way. Did it in a very nice way and he just said like I'm going for this I'm excited about it. Can you maybe help me out? And I did I wanted to wage. Because he's already shown himself to be an incredible person that I've gotten to know. He built a relationship with me rather than just connecting he built the relationship. And so I like to give this kind of a story because it shows you see that that works. It's about quality of the connections rather than as quantity and I cannot stress this to you enough, you know, if any of you listening ever ever ever do an auto respond on you know, LinkedIn, for example, so like you go into your notifications that day and it comes up and it says hey this person got a new job click here to send them a congratulations. If you ever do that, you're totally missing the point right LinkedIn does these things they want you to be active on their site and you want you to be sending messages and increasing their algorithmic messaging of their, you know, their their data numbers off a page on time on sites and I'm all that was kind of data points had increased their value. It does not help you. You need to build the relationship you need to put in more work than that. And when I try to tell everybody all the time your number maybe twenty you may only be able to put this much effort into 20 connections. Thought okay, I'd rather have you do that than have 500 fraudulent connections pick those people that matter in your world and that you can see a future like a connection of reason to connect with them and also offer a reason they can provide value for you in the long run. How do they line up with who you want to be and where you want to go? And if those people are worth connecting with you make that happen want to give you one more story. There's a story. I really enjoy telling so, okay. I have this person come to me a couple of years ago. I think it was three or four years ago now and they say I really want to work in the operations department for an NBA team. Like that's my dream job and I think they were a senior in college at the time. They're like, this is what I want to do. I know what it is. What should I do? And it was like the start of their senior year and I said you have to spend this entire senior year networking wage. Every operations coordinator in the G League guy, so don't just go reaching out to every NBA team start out in the G League. Okay reach out to every single operations coordinator in the league office and and start to try to make a connection there. Add a note give some context. Hey, I'm a senior in college. I want to be in the operations Department in the NBA at some point. I see that you're working in operations team a league would just love the connect and continue to learn more from you. So this person does that and of the I think there's 30 teams in the league now of the thirty I think Seventeen accepted and respond to them as soon as person has 17 people. It's not an impossible number if 17 people they need to build a relationship with and be visible and in touch with so they do that and I give them the plan. I'm like go do these things be this activity level be present in their world join, whatever groups they're part of follow them on Twitter do this do this this get on their Instagram, you know be visible be positive wage. Thought leadership ask open-ended questions that don't require them to do anything for you, but provide some information and and start to do that until they did this. Okay, and they did this over a long period of time and then you know, 6-8 months later a job popped up for a operations coordinator entry level job with a G League team in a was not a team. He had a direct connection with but he reached out to one of his connections based on the what I told him to this these one of these Seventeen connections. He started to build over time and build a relationship with God. He reached out to that person and said, hey, I see this great job opening up there. Do you happen to know anybody at that organization now, he wasn't saying, can you give me a referral? Cuz you've never he never worked with the person he did you having this person give him a referral his only somebody they've started to network with and virtually at that. He didn't ask for a referral didn't ask for a job didn't ask for anything other than you know anybody their job. That I can send my resume to directly I'll apply through all the normal channels, but I just want to get it in front of somebody else in the organization. And this person said back to him like yeah, of course, I do want to make sure to get it over to let them know whoever that person was. I don't remember the name. I'll make sure your resume gets to them send it over to me. All you were asking at this person that you built a relationship with over six to eight months was can you just pass my resume long? Does it helps to have your resume with in somebody's hands within the building and that's how networking can work to your benefit. If you put in the effort to build the relationships at the time you need. You can then reach out and say and don't ask for things like referrals and don't ask for things like jobs and don't come out and put somebody don't come right out and ask somebody to do something for you build the relationship take your time off and then ask for things that are either questions about the industry or ways that they can help you that doesn't really stick their neck out there too much like if somebody if somebody tries to ask me right now like can I refer them fog? Job, I'm not gonna be able to do that. I don't know you but if somebody says, can you give me advice and how I can prepare for something? I'm of course. I'm going to help you there. I'm going to help. Okay, the point is networking works, but it also takes work. If you don't put in the work don't play in the process blame yourself and your dedication to establishing connections that matter put in the work to build powerful connections and a network can help you in the moment. You need it most all right, that's it for today and just a few hours. I'm very excited to be interviewing Chasity Melvin who's twelve years in the WNBA playoff the globe first female coach and the Charlotte Hornets organization current assistant coach for the Phoenix Mercury a fanatic for Player Development, and I am really fired up to talk with her that episode will air on Wednesdays were doing for that and coming up for the month of October. I'm working really hard in our four-part series titled moving forward where we focus on how professionals can promote and educate others on Social Club. Costas through their roles in sports very excited about this project and oh my partner Adrian Brown a ton of banks stay tuned for that and Chasity on Wednesday. Please rate and review show wherever you listen and helps us remain high in the podcast rankings some more listeners can find us and stay safe out there where a mask we're not done with this shit then plan to vote. It poked photo off.

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Chasity Melvin: Phoenix Mercury Assistant Coach  Work In Sports Podcast

The Work in Sports Podcast - Insider Advice for Sports Careers

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Chasity Melvin: Phoenix Mercury Assistant Coach Work In Sports Podcast

"To work in sports podcast is brought to you by empowered. This is the most important election of our time and let's be honest voting during a pandemic is a little confusing now, there is so much misinformation out there aimed towards making you believe your vote doesn't matter. Guess what your vote does matter voting is the most important responsibilities of citizens. Do not give up that power or that right get engaged informed and ready to vote all with one app, you know who is engaged informed and ready to vote empowered Trey flowers the Detroit Lions Whitney mercilus and Justin read the Houston Texans Efren e Simmons of the Portland Trailblazers athletes are banding together to say get out get informed and get ready to vote. They are supporting this great app that will make it easier for you to get all the information. You need to Rock the vote download the app today at empowered wage. Dot-com e m p r d. It's in the Apple Store. It's in the Google Play Store get it and get ready to vote. All right, let's start the countdown. 5430 ignition everybody. I'm glad VP of content and engaged learning at work and sports.com. And this is the work in sports podcast. There are many attributes and traits that intrigued me about professional athletes throughout my career in the sports media. I've often found myself interviewing pro athletes and thinking what makes them different. So I work hand-in-hand with NFL MVP Shaun Alexander for a few years and kept asking him questions probing at his background his development as an athlete his experience being the absolute best every phase of his life. I have so many questions. I think he got really annoyed with me. Actually that's not true. Sean is one of the nicest kindest most gracious athletes, you could ever encounter he and I had a great relationship with you. See I'm one of those people that always looks for patterns in life. Like is it where they grew up how early they started training. Is it a passion that's born within and can't be controlled only fostered is it purely thousand speed is a game intelligence and Instinct like what leads to someone being a professional athlete? What does that mix? I'd asked Sean specific questions like, okay. Look at this play how did you know to cut that direction? It doesn't look like it's open how did you know to go that way and he'd go into a complex discussion of the blocking scheme, but then look at me afterwards and be like, all right. Look instincts take over. So is that it is it born from within is it something you just have this conversation would go round and round and round and round for two years. I'm not kidding you age. Finally one day I think because Sean was probably probing in his own mind it kind of figure out like what is it? Maybe I haven't really thought about it very much and so I was kind of forcing him to think about it some way. So it's now two years into our friendship. He gave me the answer as he would explain it like the Baseline qualification is that you have the elite athletic combination fast wrong size. Wait, if you have those things that gets you to college it gets you to playing college ball, but it doesn't really get you beyond that to get to the pros and potentially elite-level long award-winning triumphant career requires Elite competitiveness. The belief that you need you physically need to outwork outsmart and outmaneuver everyone else that when you line up to play you raise your ability to an entirely new level that when your season is done. All you can think about is how you will improve for the next turn this style of competitiveness cozies up very close to Obsession. Nothing else matters, but competing. This is also why so many elite players struggle with mental health issues. Not only am planning days, but afterwards, you know during their playing days not being quite Elite enough no matter how hard they work. They can't get over that extreme hump not handling the pressure well enough not having enough outlets for their anguish. Imagine being this hardwired to compete on everything and then having a day where your body just can't do it anymore. In 2005 Shawn ran for 1880 yards and 27 touchdowns. That's insane. He won the league MVP Award in 2008 just years later. He carried that ball eleven times for the Washington football team and was released. He was Thirty-One years old. That was it. What do you do with all that competitiveness when your body just can't do it anymore. How do you transition to a different life and world but just can't like put a box on that competitiveness. No way that but the world literally sees you age different prior. You couldn't walk down the street without being mobbed by fans. Now you walk down the street and people wonder quietly is that nah? I can't be and they just jumbled passed off this mental adjustment. This transition is just another obstacle in the Journey of being a pro athlete today's guest Chasity Melvin played fourteen years in a special basketball. She's a double WNBA All-Star NCAA All-American. She broke scoring records previously set by Sheryl Swoopes, which is big-time. Her trophy cabinet is full and she had to go through this exact same transition a new life and new challenges. Never one to sit still she's written a book at the end of the day which you can find on Amazon. She's become a life coach helping others. She hosts her own true Sports podcast. And in the last few years started getting coaching. She became the first female coach in the Charlotte Hornets organization, and she is now currently an assistant coach with the Phoenix Mercury. She's our All-Star now, here's Chasity Melvin off. Hi Chasity. How are you doing today? I'm doing great. Thanks for having me. I am really excited to talk to you cuz there's so much for us to get into your life as a student-athlete as a professional athletes need now is a coach. So thank you so much for joining on and sharing your expertise with our audience. Thanks for having me. So let's start with your early days of student-athlete. We often talk about work-life balance as it applies to, you know people in their career, but really that concept of balance is incredibly important for student-athletes as an All-American basketball game. I spoke. NC State. How did you find that balance between the student part and the athlete part? The balance really started with my Foundation of personally just for my faith and just kind of having a balance where mentally I was able to focus on things off the court as well as they took the court and kind of prioritize which was important. So for me, I just had a goal in mind as far as you know, representing my family and making sure that I had to have good grades. I had to get my college degree. So I went into college kind of understanding that and just balancing, you know to work life as far as students, you know, making sure I met with my tutors. So just getting that back so getting my homework and everything done and then you know separating it from the time of like Leisure Time there wasn't much leisure time. I think the hardest thing is learning when to say no for me. I thought it was an easy adjustment because I just I didn't care what people thought like, I knew I had to reach my goals and dreams. So it was fairly easy for me. How did you establish those goals and dreams as a young person? Well for me, I was I knew I was first generation of success from my family and I think you know what most people talk about life coaching and putting things in the universe. I kind of learned that from my father was a minister. So I started putting things in the universe a lot earlier. Obviously I use God and I my belief in God and my faith so my dad always said right division make it plain and so I just kind of believed in all of those affirmations from the Bible and I took that and put it you know, as far as far as my career. So I knew I wanted to play basketball there weren't professional leagues at the time. I knew I wanted to be the best basketball player. I could be in college and so I started setting those goals and also knew I needed a college degree and I would be the second person from my family. So I I had to have that focus and in fact while they work out I wanted to work for USPS. So I just kind of kept my eye on the on the on the target. I was the same way. I had no ability to get to the pro level, but I had an interest in working. ESPN so I'm not always a huge fan of Looking Backward. I I tend to look forward, you know, like what are we doing now how we getting where we want to get but as you look back at your career as an athlete, especially your time, you mean you graduated from n c state in two thousand you let the wolf back to the only final four you've had a you got a full trophy case behind you of imagination as you reflect back on that time. Is there anything you would have done differently? No, I did the best that I could with the knowledge that I had. Like I said, I was from very humble beginnings. So for me, this was just the first for like everyone in my family basically gained a lot of people from my home town. I grew up in a small town probably population of 1200. My graduating senior class were ninety eight kids that graduated in my senior class. So for me, I did not have regrets because I kind of winged it along the way and I did the best that I could and I was pretty successful. So I don't have any regrets if anything is probably just I've learned after that just really be more present in the moment. I was always sitting a new goal and I was always like okay I did this like now I got to do this instead of really sometimes, you know, when you reach a level of success or you reach a small goal, you know, really enjoy that experience. I think yeah, Erik Spoelstra said it best last night with my heat when he was like, yeah, we just enjoyed him right now and then move on to the finals. So for me, I think I would win I would do great things. But then I was on to the next instead of kind of taking time to enjoy those moments cuz they were really precious. So I forgot to mention that I'm from Boston. So you're not allowed to talk about the heat. Okay. So mental health is such an important topic with today's athletes. We hear monthly to the top of their game guys like DeMar DeRozan and Kevin Love and Dak Prescott. They're being open and vulnerable about a lot of the feelings are having and their issues with mental health. I think that's something we should all off. The respect someone who's been through the rigors of being a high-profile athlete what tools do young student-athletes and professionals need to better manage their own National Health First they have to find someone that they can talk to, you know, they have to understand that they aren't machines I think back in the day. We were kind of taught like we were machines like even if you got cancer you played through it if the family like wasn't well you didn't talk about it. You just held everything in so I would just like to encourage young athletes to talk to someone about it. There's so many resources now, he's on the college level and the pro level that you don't have to share with your friends. You don't have to share with your you know family you can actually find someone that is neutral and talk about what's going on in your life. So I was encouraged young athletes to take advantage of those resources and also have a relationship with their coaches. I think coaches are more aware Now assistant coaches are more aware that things are going on and young age. Police lives so maybe they can't be a counselor for you, but they can help send you in the right direction because they know all the resources that the colleges have. So that's what I would suggest because that was kind of taboo back in my day. You just found everything here and it was on to the next game and obviously if you wanted that made things better. Yeah, you know, but obviously that wasn't as healthy and I kind of dealt with some of those issues when I retire and I was able to find help and counsel get counseling through a life coach and through some mental health workshops that were very instrumental in mean getting over that phase of retirement and moving it to the next phase of the light. Yeah. So explain that and dig into that. What is that transition? Like when you spend your entire life reaching for this goal competing at the highest level and then one day it's just not there anymore. What is that? Like it's so challenging. I mean cuz first of all everyone no one really values that professional playing a professional sport is a real job. Yeah, so for the majority of my career people thought I was just traveling around and having the time of my life and not actually working but it's one of the most Cutthroat business has to stay on track a game and being professional sports also the entertainment factor and so many people pulling from you for different things. And once it's over it's just kind of like you're thrown away like even some of the best. I mean like only some really great ones like Shaquille O'Neal Michael Jordan or LeBron James are still treated as such but like most of the other athletes you're replaceable. So it's it's all to the next Chastity milk and your kind of forgot about and then when you come home or when you come to when you try to get into another career people are still looking at you is like that professional basketball player and they're looking at you like well, why do you want to work here or why do you want to do this or why do you want to know the career? Like just you have all this money live off of it and I'm just like just because you retired doesn't mean your life stops, right? No, that doesn't mean your lifestyle. It doesn't mean a thing. We'll stop it, you know, it goes on and it's a new life for us. It's a very new life if you're not around basketball. So for me, it was very challenging. And then like I said, you know, I'm not really people to talk to you cuz I'm talking to my friends and they're like what's wrong with you? You have a house and a car, you know, my friends are still trying to get you know a loan to get a house or like not saying not even comparing to it can be a lifestyle but I was mature enough at a young age out of college to you know, give my own house to you know, get a nice car what people deem is really successful. So when you're talking to your friend of the family, they're like you got this stuff. You should be happy life. So it's just it's just challenging on those levels cuz you don't want the you don't want to have a self pity or woe is me and people are looking at you a certain way. And so for me, I found some Solace and talking to a life coach and I actually got to go through like a mental health Workshop in New York that really helped me deal with some of those challenges and help me move forward at my affect the basketball and a more positive way is the Competitive Edge. That's a big part of that like that drive that you always have and that thing that motivates you to achieve now that that's kind of gone. How do you replace that? You know, I've talked to a lot of pro football athletes. That's what they say is like off I miss game day. I miss competing. Yeah. I mean, it's just there's just like, well, they don't understand like we we want something that that drives us each day. It's just like you can talk to any family and not just athletes you can talk to actors and actors like you can only party so much your money and travel around the world so much but that's not fulfilling. Now. You want something that basketball game or sport gave you and that was to compete. So whether it's you're starting your own company or whether you start, you know, you get a coaching job and you're you're given this Foundation to start a culture you want that challenge and you said that's what you need to kind of just, you know, feel like you're living the same life although it in a different venue. But yeah, I'm always competing this it's always something like I'm telling people. I'm Kris creating something new every time. Just kind of see cannot do it. You know like we want to say, oh, you can't do that chance and you know people tell athletes that when they retire like you don't have this or you don't have that, you know, so we wanted it just more so than before the competitive drive and we're going to use our work ethic and everything we learn from my sport to be successful at it in that same kind of vein. We're always told as sports fans that in college you play For the Love of the Game. The only reason you just love to play the game, but then when you get to the pros, it's a business without your experience as well. Yeah, learn that my third year actually talked about it a little bit in my book bag. And once I learned that that it was a business and it wasn't just about the love like in college. I believe that helped me become the pro that I was and I was able to be successful for so many years. I mean, obviously the love is still there with you have to be strategic with your age and in the team's you choose to play on the rolls like you really have to you really have to have a a great definition of who yep. As a pro and where you fit in and how you can adjust the different systems. So there was basically the business side as far as the contracts and the money and getting cut and trying to you know, get on the team that's Fetch and led the team where it's just our rookies or they're rebuilding you have to learn all the different dynamics of professional organizations. Is it still fun? It's still fun. If you still love it, some people don't look some people can't separate the two. So for me those two hours on the court, I still had a great love and a great passion for what I did on the court and I was able to separate what happened off the court but some people can't separate the two, you know, and then that that could be a problem and I encourage athletes know some people get on a lease about retiring early or they can't take it anymore. But a lot of people don't understand that side like the business side of it is ugly and a lot of a lot of athletes as of late have been thinking about it but in the past athletes and talk about what happened off the court, you know, now it's the players Tribune and people are telling their stories and people are more like wow that really happened to you. Like you actually have challenges you've overcome as a professional athlete and so now people are kind of getting that side but that, you know, some people just aren't built to handle both and if you aren't, you know, they're a lot of things you can do and you can find a passion for outside of your sport club. Whistling into that a little bit more when you first started playing in the pros was mm. Right actually. I I graduated in ninety-eight and it was around 99 that I got. Yeah. Mm. So different world than it is now and the athletes didn't have that kind of a voice like I remember when I was coming up in the industry. I didn't know what Michael Jordan thought about politics didn't talk about that stuff Charles Barkley didn't talk about that other than just not being a role model. We talked about that in every sport. A lot of athletes didn't have that voice now like you mentioned players Tribune social media personal branding wage earning a lot more about the athletes as people and seeing them more as a human rather than a commodity and just a entertainment Source. How does that make you feel as you kind of look at that and see how things are changing for athletes. Is it a positive thing for us all to see? I think it's a positive. I do believe it's a positive and I don't mean to say this lightly or insult anyone off. Of that athletes have a voice. I love that they can you know have that they have their personal brand and they're speaking about politics but there's also a thin line when you use your voice for me off to be well-educated if I'm going to use my voice and I mean I joke with people all the time. I know food spirituality and basketball. So yeah like so I kind of stay in my Lane. My sister is getting her doctorate. I can ask her questions about things political. She's actually getting her doctors in a racial and Justice movements, but you know some of the athletes when you're using your voice, you know, don't take that lightly. You know, that's something that people are really listening to you and they're going to you for information and if you're saying things that are, you know, maybe come off races or you're not you're seem insensitive to what people are going to then that that can cause a lot of stress on you outside of the stress you have as a professional athlete dog. I do I'm ecstatic that athletes get their share their story. But I also think you know athletes can get an agent they can get a financial adviser. They can get a personal assistant jobs now since they're using their voice and their you know, using their brand they should have someone that's more informed on what's really going on as far as racial Injustice police brutality so they can have someone help articulate their thoughts and then have more of a Polish spring and so you won't have all these people. I'm sorry for what I said or else, you know, cuz that's a lot to do with and the concern over there. It's a people don't understand how competitive and Cutthroat professionals forces and I think that's why sometimes people are so mentally even more mentally bombarded and dealing with mental health issues because they feel the weight of the world on their shoulders to use their voice that if it comes across as wrong or insensitive, then they're dealing with that and they're dealing with a r might get traded tomorrow. I'm not starting you know you off There's so many so many different things. So that's why I just encourage athletes become more informed and help people kind of brand their voice and use it, you know to the best of their ability. It's just there's a power and having a platform and then it's up to the individual to use it properly. Yeah. So 12 seasons in the WNBA All-Star leader when you look back what are you most proud of during your playing career? I believe I'm most proud of just the fortitude I had to persevere and to inspire so many others back from my back in my hometown of Roseboro North Carolina judging from such a small town and humble beginnings. I believe that I I mean so many people still reach out to me this day whether it's doctors or people going to college for the first time be a first generation of success from their families. I encourage them. Like hey, you can get get outside of this small town and reach your goals and dreams no matter what it is. I mean doesn't have to be Sports. So for me, I'm pretty proud of that cuz there were some four times there were some jobs where I felt like, I just don't want to do this anymore, you know, and Just because of the things you deal with as a professional athlete the ups and downs. So for me, I just wanted to keep going and be successful because I always thought about the people back home and people that were looking up to me. Like hey we can do it. That's what I'm most proud of and you should be so as a professional athlete you played in the US obviously for the WNBA. You also played professionally in fact, Israel, Spain Poland, Russia, Korea turkey and China. I'm going to make an assumption here. And please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm guessing this is largely because of the pay gap for women that you had to leverage the window of your talent every way you could to amass enough money to last you right as you see more often fighting for Equal Pay whether they're pro athletes or directors of marketing whether they're in sports or something completely different. I don't know if I'm on track here, but how does it make you feel to see that bad off? for equal pay I believe it's great for Equal Pay across the board especially for African-American women. I mean, you know women don't get paid as much as men and then African American women get paid less than the white female boss. So for me, I think it's it's great. I love what tennis is done as far as paying women saying, I believe that it would make our league even better to be able to have the girls over here a continuously throughout the season even having a fall season just to make it more consistent through the year with the fans and and being a basketball season and pay them well, so they are able to stay in in the states and and make a great great financial future for themselves for me earlier on to a lot of people. I mean, it's not just the money cuz obviously some people make really a lot of money overseas and there's some people could same mistakes I make just as much depending on what their college degree was because obviously all of us a lot of people don't know this but all the NBA players have graduated from college so they have a college degree and they could wage. There's other careers but you the season is so long. So your offer six or seven months and it's really challenging to continue to keep your body in shape for a week season. And so for me, I found it a lot easier to go overseas and just kind of keep my body in shape. Keep my body in Rhythm because you're going to like YMCAs or LA Fitness and sometimes people want to place sometimes they know so you're not consistently getting that the physical, you know, the the shape you need to be in physically to to be prepared for your government in a season. So that makes it a little bit easier know it makes sense. So in your Global travels, what did you learn about International fans? Are they a lot different than the US base fan or Thursday our Sports kind of similar no matter where you go know, the international fans were definitely more passionate. They were cut throat at the games. You know, sometimes I got quarters thrown out on the birth. We'll know Philadelphia. So yeah, they're probably Philly fans on another level. Yeah, especially if you would just go to some point, you know, if you obviously you go back and seems being you know, it can be kind of scary, you know, trying to get back in the locker road, but not so much where I felt like my life was threatening, but it was just like the passion was off like a hundred so I still have fans that reach out still have fans that follow me from Asia and different places, which is kind of cool. So that is similar because I think for the WNBA, you're still have those fans who just formed a relationship with us as far as fan athlete and I still hear from fans that wash me in Cleveland that watched me in Chicago and so they can International fans and the fans that I've had in the w share that quality where they still follow us at long after basketball and follow our lives via social media. So most of the athletes that I've interviewed job Tend to ignore the end of their career like they just want to think it's going to keep going and going and going and I understand that cuz I'd be the same exact way, but for you, when did you start to realize? Okay and is coming I have to prepare for what's next and start to think about that and put a strategy together. How did that all come together for you? It actually started in 2013. Actually. I actually tell people I could page overseas until I was basically made my age now maybe 4243 I was in great shape, but I just felt like I gotta stop because I gotta start my next career. So I went to Turkey one more season and I prayed about it. I'm like, okay. This is gotta be my last season had a great season over there. So so for me, it wasn't really like our health reasons or felt like I needed to stop it was just like I better start working on the next because I don't want to be fifty trying to start a new career was already a struggle then at thirty-nine forty years old to start a new career. So for me, that's that was really what started it off. I don't think athletes feel like it's not going to be over but I do feel like we trust our work ethics so much that okay, when we stop you get an opportunity we're going to do just not deal with our Pro Sport, but we're going to work at it whether we know a little or a lot. We're going to take it and we're going to go but I don't think athletes realize until it's over that those opportunities are hard to come back and then that's the challenge and that's when they get depressed and you know, they started questioning and they're caught they lose their confidence and Once An Athlete loses its confidence and it's just a hard Road. I mean, that's for anyone wishing. Yes. That's just a hard Challenge and roll road to be a part of so for me I wanted to kind of deal with that early and that's why I started so you joined the NBA player development assistant coaches program in 2018. It's one thing to be a player and quite another to be a coach as you went through this were there any kind of aha moment song. Were like everything kind of came together and you saw it as a coach now rather than a player. Everything came together when I when I first entered the program and I got some New York and I was there with eighteen other former NBA players and then I had a choice like hey basketballs all the same you going through this movies and I had a huge respect for the NBA I grew up watching it with my my dad and my brothers and although I knew I was a profession. I was really good. I ended up being overseas still looked at the NBA like everyone else does like these players are doing something, you know more amazing and it's the highest of highest level. So once I started going down means with them and learned in the X's those a basketball what it takes to be a coach. I just got a hot moment because even though I play in The W being overseas I had the same similar experiences that they had as a professional athletes NBA as far as some of the challenges we deal with and how they looked at the game and so for me, that was my aha moment. Like I can do this I can coach and basketball basketball. I mean, obviously the NBA is dead. Amazing some of the things those guys do when they can't do on the court, but at the end of the day as far as from the coaching perspective is still the same X as those same dresses same Zone same thing a little options, you know, so for me now, it's kind of funny cuz you just you just thought it was different you thought it was something more complicated. Yeah, but they can just do things like life more complete cuz I don't like it when things broke down they could just dunk over somebody I think a role might just you know, how like this, you know, Mom becomes power across the world, but it was still side pick-and-roll, right? So you became the first female coach in the Charlotte Hornets organization when you became assistant for the Greensboro swarm of the G league, so I have to ask did gain respect game or was it a bit of a challenge having to prove yourself over again with these young professionals? It was a bit of a challenge early. I think just as far as the personal space, you know was a male-dominated when whenever there's an arena where it's male-dominated and the female, it's just like when I was growing up, you know, I wanted to play with my boy cousins. I want to play basketball, but they weren't used to having a female out there. So it's more so like this is boys only so, you know, I first started coaching with the Greensboro swarm, you know, they had to actually think about okay. What are we going to do with chassis when we go to eat or like for like there's a female with this off a group that has never had to think about that outside of their family outside of family trips or whatever they do with their wives and their daughters at home. They weren't used to having to take that extra effort on the job and it wasn't bad. It was just like we have a female now or let me watch what I say or you know, so it's kind of you feel that tension like I might come in the office and they're talking about something and everything goes solid dead. And now that they're saying anything bad, it's just like they were I had really respectable guys. So they're just like, okay, you'll females in the room like most of I mean how I grew up in southern, you know north of men with mostly respectful around women. So once once I once they were able to learn my personality, you know, I kind of just threw some guidelines out here might look this is something I can't be calling. This is disrespectful anything else. I'm okay in these conversations. And once I put that out there is just kind of like release something from them. Like wow, I can be myself off, you know, cuz I don't want to change. I'm not trying to go into a male-dominated Arena change how guys act but there are some things guys need to know like that's disrespectful. Those are things you just don't do and I didn't have any problems then I laughed and I choked with them and I gave them relationship advice and you know things of that nature and it was great. But as far as on the court, The guys were spoken because they just knew I knew what I was talking about. And that's across the board. Whatever Arena you're in if you can help someone be successful then they stop looking at your gender or age or if you're male or female is just like oh you can help me make more money or you can help me become a better athlete than that's what it's about. I love that. You said some ground rules too though and gave them a frame and said Hey, Jake stay stay inside here. We're good go out here and that's not going to be cool. So I think that's important. It's just a communicate what needs to happen in the relationship and then you go through that adjustment. And you're back to black H. Ya. Yeah. And so and my dad had talked to me about it. My dad was a little sceptical. He's like, you know, a woman doesn't belong in the back room with the men and I was like, well Dad technically, I don't feel like a man the most of the rock around what we live and I was like Dad I'm not going to be in the locker room right trying to be there mail father figure. I'm not trying to be dead. Role model for them as far as off the court. I'm trying to coach between those four live like Alma Court. I want to be able to cope stay on the same way men have coached me and that's all basketball. Yeah other stuff. I'm not trying to be in the locker room. I'm not trying to tell them how they should be as a male as a man as opposed to just like all my mail coaches never talk to me about being a female thought they were my role models and how to be a great female. So I'm not trying to do that for mail, but I am trying to make them the best athlete that they can be on the court. So that's all I wanted to do. One of my favorite song lately came from someone you'd likely compete against the WNBA Kara Lawson who is now the women's basketball coach at Duke she talked about in a clip that you could find on the internet just about any of the difference between hard work and competing and I loved it. Like I was eating it up. Like I was just very inspirational. Is that the part that makes pro athletes different game? It's not just like I'm going to go out and work hard. It's that innate desire to beat the other person and to achieve at a higher level is that that differentiation between those heavily talented and those that are pro athletes. Yeah. It's definitely the main difference and that's something that I don't care how great a coach you are. If you can't get women regard to compete. It's something that has to come in from the the inner, you know, so there's Sophie I think obviously coach and Diana Taurasi this year. Just seeing her at 38,000. She's ready to kill anyone out on the court like, you know, and then you know some players and it's just like go attack like you're trying to push them every day. And then there's there's a player that you have thought you have no worries about. Okay. Well she missed shots. Maybe we'll she not make every pass but if she going to compete for 40 minutes, no doubt. I mean that's what make the Grand and that's also what makes Prozac Wrestle for a longer period of time than other athletes. So if you have someone like oh Vince Carter playing for so long or the diameter Rossi's like you understand that they they're still competing like they still have that that competition Factor. So you mentioned it but you joined the Phoenix Mercury as an assistant coach this past season. How unique has it been to not only become an assistant coach for the new team for you. But under these really strange circumstances circumstances. Yeah. It's just funny. I was like we made plans and God laughs at us, you know, like I'm finally getting a sister coast of java in the same level, you know, I've been, you know trying to get back in the WTA and I finally get my opportunity in this under these circumstances. It was challenging, you know, mentally, but for me, I really enjoy and it was a blessing in disguise kind of because I got opportunity for not only not only to learn about other coaches and network with other assistant coaches and also get to know the Players Club. The court but they got to get to know me off the court like coaches that I had emailed or I had tried to you know had gone to visit some of their practices and telling them I'm interested in coaching but they didn't really know me off and in this business, you know, people hire who they know. So for me, it was a blessing in disguise. I think people were able to talk basketball with me and get get my basketball IQ and be like, oh, okay. They're seeing me in a different light. That's so that part was great. But also just bonded with the players off the court getting to know Diana Taurasi off the court. I mean if we would have been back in Phoenix, it would have just been practiced and then we all go our separate ways. And I also got to know them a little bit better what she wanted and assistant coaches because we were right there. It was so each other hang out, you know had dinner and you know had drinks and stuff. So it was a great camaraderie. It was actually pretty good for me. So we'll finish up with this and I really respect all the time that you've given me you clearly have a really positive attitude, which I think is infectious and it's great. I think it serves you well off. We talked about mental health earlier as it relates to the pressure of being a student-athlete. But what about just the everyday need for a positive attitude and perspective on things. It's tough right now off to stay positive just a lot of things happening in the world. I personally struggle sometimes knowing with how to balance like what's going on in the world, but also not letting that off crushing defeat my spirit. So how do you stay positive and how can other people kind of embrace this positivity? Well for me, I mean, I would encourage people to find some type of faith. I don't push either one. I mean Iraq with Jesus ideals. I'm I went Jesus believer. Don't freak out people but there are a lot of strong face out there that you can bring some type of Hope and peace in so I want to encourage that I do morning devotions. I pray so I have a spiritual side that kind of keeps me balanced and just kind of fuels that Keeping the Faith Even hold no matter what's going on for the young young people. I would just say, you know balance what you're watching on social media. I mean, it's it's hard for young people out here. Like I'm not I'm not you know, they have to balance how how long they stay on social media, but I phone tells me how long I spend on Instagram if you're spending more than if you're spending all day on Instagram or SnapChat, but obviously that can't be good for you. But just balance what you're doing learn about, you know, we came up with board games, you know played some board games with your family's like when I was in college and recruiting once covert hit em. I know a lot of players our recruiting they were like, hey, I got some family time we're playing checkers were playing can make for and it was something he hadn't done before but they actually enjoyed it and they actually got to know each other on a different life as opposed to before company buddy was in this Rat Race and going to practice and going here and never having the family time. So for young athletes, I would just encourage them to kind of do that learn. Let me spend time. Brothers and sisters and for their sport, you know research to support you can't get to a gym like start doing YouTube video Start, you know searching on YouTube about players. Do you like or players that maybe your game is similar to for the for me? I was blessed to coach and the level and coached basketball. So I got basketball bag, but I know a lot of my friends that are entertainers actors actresses their real life struggling right now because they don't have their livelihood. They can't go hop on a private plane and have a big concert, you know, everything's from home. So I would encourage those people like myself like I think God always gives us during these opportunities times like times to create something new or times to like people used to say if it's if it's not broke. Don't fix it. Well, this is a time like if it wasn't broke, this is a time to kind of make it better. So kind of like evaluate your life evaluate your family your relationships and and and work on those things because once covid-19 and we do get back to well. It's still going to be a noon or off. You know you join that rat race again, and you don't have as much time as you do now. So I would say create something new me and the friendship, you know, men's things that happen in a relationship that you just kind of blocked or, you know, cut your heart out from like open that back up and deal with it seek counselling obviously there are a lot of resources out there, but it's obviously you guys just find different ways to stay calm and also check on I think sometimes for me before I got the job. I think a lot of people have this were there sitting at home and like you said it gets it gets three. You just say everybody like let me get out of bed today. It's the same thing today. And so what I would what I'm doing is I started reaching out to I pick up my phone. I started reaching out to other people. Like, how are you doing home or just someone in somewhere runs across your mind send them a text. Like hey, I just reached out to one of my friends who moved to Colorado and then cut over here and then have a job. So reach out and people and you'll see like look, Well as me everybody has to say story but it makes the other person feel good. And then it makes you feel like okay. I reached out to someone else like we get so self-absorbed that we don't realize that young people are going through the same things and and also, you know where Mass, you know, people aren't wearing masks and aren't following come on people like but the media the media is really not putting out their own know I'm getting long-winded about but the media is not really putting out there how many people are passing away from colon still to this day and they're also not putting out there how how many did complications people have after they have coded? You know, so it really is a serious it is a serious disease and obviously I don't like wearing a mask. Like I mean no one likes being told what to do but end of the day I wear masks for other people after I'm healthy, but you know, they I don't want my mom and dad, you know people come home and their grandparents got covid-19 going three days later like at the end of the day that could be you home. So it's in a man's doesn't make it a hundred percent. But at least you're trying at least you're not, you know, blatantly say I'm not going to do this. I'm not going to wash my hands. I don't care what people are saying like we gotta stop being so selfish of like Covent real it's really taking people's lives and it's really provided. It's really given other people other complications as far as even if you're young that will last a lifetime. So I would encourage people to really take it a little bit more. Seriously every one of these shows since about April. I have been saying to people two things make a plan to vote in November. And wear a mask and that's caring about not only your role in society. But also just caring about other fellow human beings. It's not hard. It's not a sacrifice. It's something we all have to do. So thank you for bringing up north. Just this was awesome. Thank you so much for this conversation. I learned a lot and I know our audience is going to love this. So thanks for joining me today. Thanks for having me anytime. Okay. Thank you so much for Chastity coming on the show and thank you to LaTanya story who of LPS Consulting and PR who introduced me to Chastity and has also told us more and more about the empowered app. So that ought to both of you for coming on. I was really feeling inspired by that conversation. Like I really could have kept going because Chasity has this real this realness to her. You know, she just has this very straightforward and you feel motivated listening to her and she's not over the top and she's not crazy. But the entire time we were talking she had a smile on her face and her voice and I think she just has this great demeanor wage. Willingness to share and to help others that I think is really infectious. And I think it's really important as we get back to the conversation on patterns. Like I was talking about in the intro, you know, sometimes you get this thought of like professional athletes, they come from down the inner city where they're they're working hard and competing against one another and iron sharpens iron, or they come from some Elite program where they've got the best training and they get the best whatever and you know, what there's never really that pattern in a city came from a really small town and she worked her butt off to get to the point that she became an All-American and she became a WNBA All-Star and I think that's important for me to remember sometimes it's like yesterday the best practices and there's some little patterns in there, but that doesn't mean that you can't break through those patterns either that you have a lot of choices and options to get to where you want to get off your motivated enough to get their thanks to chesti for listening. Thanks for all of you for being a part of this show and I think I got that backwards. 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Vikings Radio Analyst Pete Bercich Previews Texans/Vikings Game

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Vikings Radio Analyst Pete Bercich Previews Texans/Vikings Game

"I think the Sean Salisbury show continues. Let's hope we have a game as of right now we do between the Vikings and Texans Tennessee, Titans Pittsburgh steelers because of covid has been postponed till later in the season and we don't know the exact date joining me now's teammate of mine. Great teammate and great friend and has been the vikings analysts for game analyst for longtime joins us here on sports talk radio. Sports Talk Seven Ninety Sean Salisbury, show Pete, Burr Sich Pete welcome in brother. It's good to have you on our the Vikings at the complex reportedly working today. Anything's changed right now with covert or any positive tests that we know about. No nothing nothing that I am aware of and of course. I'm. As you know not too far up on the food chain. I'm somewhere I'm somewhere right around the janitorial staff I, think when it comes to, you know those guys are thing but as of right now, the game is set to go on and you know and as you know and I've been talking about this is the fact that they missed the whole entire Wednesday front That's a big deal I mean that's a big game plan date a big day after teams get together and. A little bit behind the eight ball in that respect. But you know that's kind of the the. You know this environment that we were living and playing in right now. Yeah. No doubt about it. Wednesday is as important as earth because that is the toughest workday and Thursday being the second pete versus joins US series the Vikings game analyst here on Sports Talk. Seven hundred feet. Okay a lot of things. But overall from your bird's eye view and you study tape, what's the biggest issue with the Vikings Owen three start? Well, I think the first two games a lot of it was authentic I mean. You know you can. You know the Indianapolis game a game that really I think we'll come back to haunt them only because they had so many opportunities you know only in that game the first half you had. No less than five passes time said had they. Gone biking's way that me it turned out differently you know and and then so offensively, the senators place came through, which is why you saw better you know offensive. Effort against the Tennessee Titans Defensively it's Kinda like what you're seeing. You know you play well and then all of a sudden you look up and there's a receiver run free down the middle of the field. You know what? I mean, right we have to eliminate those two or three mental errors You know per game especially defensively in the back end. That's. Going to. Change things around and and I. Think offensively, we made some big steps defensively. You know they they did a good. They did a better job against the one Last week but from a passing standpoint just too many too many explosive plays thirty air and. It came back to haunt, but the good news is a team that played against Indianapolis and team against. Tennessee. Tennessee team was much better and. You know they're getting better but. The problem you have now that home threes too little too late. Versus Vikings game analysts yeah. When two teams in division three and and and that's a tough. That's a tough thing to catch up through pete bursts. She's Vikings game analyst joins us here on the Sean Salary Show Pete. And I think you know I'm going with this because I'm always curious about the psychological and mental side. How mentally tough is this football team? You know that's that's a damn good question. The first question I've been asked. in the land you know in the last couple of weeks I. Think we're GonNa find out this week you know in as you know. When you reach a certain point where you know you just You know guys just not necessarily they're tuning out, but then they quit worrying about the wins and losses and just that little bit of a switch and mentality. Makes huge difference in. Our again, our two teams are so similar right now especially with time of possession I think our defense has been on the field like sixty more snaps this year. than. Our offense our offense and averaged time of possession is like twenty two minutes. And so there there's there's your question defensively can maybe on the field for thirty five minutes and you know hold up and put up. Fifteen point game or twenty point game You know that's the that's the big question right now and you know we'll see. But offensively, our guys have been on the field way too much. You know you lose Anthony Barr for the season. you know camera dancer or Defensive Backfield just been. You know leaving decimated a little bit injuries we were young to begin with. but the. Guy's injured not playing as is tough P. when I go on shows like you're on mind and I know you're going a lot but people talking about quarterback play and I get asked the question often and I liked the guy and he's a numbers guy he's an xbox machine when it comes to numbers but championships, they asked me what is kirk cousins of February quarterback and Mike question just by the analytics and metrics say no and I'd like to see him be that way you tell me is he a February quarterback? Well you know I mean you. You go down to the world's last year right and you know you WANNA game in New Orleans and over time I mean that's knickknack great. Wrote Adam feeling seem no doubt no question and you know he's You know he he's he's capable of that. the problem is, is that you see efforts like against Indianapolis when he put like a passer rating, the main team. needed passer rating right now and the NFL's thirty six. And there's only thirty teams in case anybody's wondering. We know what he can and can't do and you know what he doesn't like do he's not a drop back quarterback he's not you know I I look at I. Look you wanted to Houston's doing and you see two different types of offenses they have an offense or they. Bring in end and they try to run the football and it it it it just it's just not working for you guys right now but when he screen things out You know the offense can be very effective and I, think it's the same thing with cousins where you have to have him. On the move you you. You can't let him to drop back in and they're down situations and you know offensively we are i. mean you look at the average yards to go. On third down worth like just above nine or the worst team in the league when it comes to that. So we're facing third law time. And that's exactly what he's not good at doing when you when you don't have the threat of a run with Delvin, Cook and he just has to drop back and throw. It you know you just it's just not. It's just not as good as not a good situation for him seems to Russia gets the rush. You know the big interception at the beginning of the half last week was you know they'd been mugging linebackers in the and be gap and then they finally send him throws the ball he said he was trying to throw it away but. You know you to. Try to the Tennessee defender. So I mean you know you know this more than anyone 'cause you've stood there it's not a fun place to be but you know you the sean he's he's making some frozen taking some hits and we haven't really haven't seen that him this year, and if he thinks he's GonNa be just standing in the pocket with a guy like Whitney Mercilus and JJ watt breathing to Mac than. Could be a long day and you know. Pete I don't have any place pete bursts. Vikings. Game analysts joins us here on the Sean Salary showing support stocks ninety as a play caller I ain't got many plays in my system for consistent third ninth third nate's. That'd be that'd be. Real average quarterback in a hurry p watch the tape and you watch this team. I mean, the the defensive front here is getting gashed the front seven. How in the world after the most talented running back they will face. Now we'll be this week with dalvin cooking. They face three pretty good ones. If you're the vikings don't you have to commit to the run this week and make them stop you. Absolutely, I mean, you have to and that, and that requires a few things number one, the game you can't along the big plays on defense down by two scores isn't it takes you out of the game. But watching watching the Texans it's it's it's the counter style of Ren Really. When Pittsburgh started pulling guard tight end and misdirection won the linebackers. You know they're not reading faculty not getting the right spot and if you got against the cook. You know he's getting us to to be a safety. And then you know get to the end though so it's not just going to be a fifteen twenty yard moved to change type around it's going to be a big run so I expect the Vikings to. Try to take advantage of that to see if that's you know that's been corrected by the Houston because it's just the the fish and the discipline of linebackers getting fake, he's getting other supposed to be. just I don't see just. When you get and we both know this when you get punched in the face and you're punching back. That's that makes for a long game. I got about thirty seconds left my brother, a Mike Zimmer losing his patients, my friend. you know he's got grumpy gene to begin. Kind of grumpy guy and you know I unfortunately, we're not privy to all the meetings and different things that are going on. It's a it's a tough situation because you could step back and and and you know you look at the you know Harrison Smith an interception last week it was a great one and he calls WanNa get Andy. You know you're doing. You're getting there. You're doing things better in a lot of areas, but you're just not there yet. It's a sick preseason type of thing where you come on you play maybe the first game, second? Game You. You know you're terrible you got a lot of sexy fix most of them in that third one and then you ready to go and you know there's no preseason this year and you know so there's been there's been better things and a lot of good things but just not enough. So the question is, is you know what do you? What do you want to dwell on and you know some things have to? Be Unacceptable, and as you know leaving receivers go free down the field. You know that kind of thing is unacceptable. So near when you got a guy, you know gone for one hundred yards receiving with a couple of touchdowns and or whatever, and you're trying to find him in the in the in the book you know you're trying to find him in the media. Guy 'cause you never heard of the guy that's a problem. So literally, well man one of US teams, you'd think less ties going to get over a little bit of a problem this week. So we'll see how that works out I. always appreciate a great stuff and keep killing it on the broadcast and it's always great to get my man I appreciate. You to take your brother, we'll talk to. Chris Mall Says Yeah makes you tell them alone telemit's time we get together and tee it up brother we got to do all. Been about twenty five. You Go. Let's do man I appreciate you. All right brother. Thanks. That's papers. My Guy we'll come back and discuss and he hits it. Both these teams are scrambling it sportstalk seven ninety.

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Steve Sparks Wraps Up Astros' Season & Looks Ahead to the Offseason

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Steve Sparks Wraps Up Astros' Season & Looks Ahead to the Offseason

"The. Whitney mercilus listen to Sean Salisbury. Real Texans, talk on sports talk seven. Ninety. Sports, talk? Seven hundred Steve Sparks. Yup that Guy Steve Sparks Astros broadcaster. Comedian got a little bit everything's in the car. I bet. All probably go do some solid ball striking joins us on sports talk seven hundred where you drive into if it's any of our business steve. Back. Driving Oklahoma. He's headed home. She picked up. Voice Sager. Your head. No did you pick up Kaikal on the way out take him with you. I'll I'll probably be within ten miles of cockles parents. by about five o'clock today hey man, can you do you WanNa come produce our show of all the other stuff you do when you get back. Why is he leaving? 'cause he's an idiot. GonNa. Wait me up on the west coast of inappropriate. Steve or tried to find a celebrity you know like who would be a good celebrity that you know that we could take them from their fifteen million dollar movie or concert job to come in like. Yeah okay. So you have a man crush on clooney. Does it call it well. MC DOES IT MC wants to bang on a hey all day. Hey he also likes Stephen. We call me at five thirty in the morning. Seattle, during the season. This is last year and asked me what I was wearing. Now remember to replace the now I just go ahead say that's not true. You always ask. Exactly oh my gosh sakes, yeah. Who is Steve? Who's going to replace that? Sakes. Hey. Steve. What he wears I had to wake up. Song. By Steve Did, you respond with. Khakis. Red Shirts. And then he handed the phone to Connor. Hey big boy. Who is it Oh at three in the morning now it's five thirty. It's. From the Astros off Bundy morning. And in years past, I think this is the fourth or fifth year. There've been during the Monday morning thing when the season's over, it's over I said the same thing Steve I promise you this was my idea to call you see I forget the today before. You are you're out priceless a I felt bad. Like I didn't communicate so I apologize for that. You don't apologize Steve We knew it. We knew you deserved a little little rest man. What are you doing in Oklahoma you need to? BITEL telesystem. Well. My parents live in right outside of Tulsa. Right. All my family's still there. So I'm going there to see them. They're in their eighties and my dad golfs almost every day. So I'm probably play around the golf with him and his body. And this is no lie two years ago I played with them. And one of his buddies. there was two groups and one of his buddies had a stroke on the second hole. So you never know what you're going again. I mean you're just going out there and you're going oh my gosh, this is. A bunch of dudes who disliked. This is their life you know and I joined in on it for a couple of days that it's always going to. Norman. And my daughter's a senior. She's my last my youngest child and she's a senior at Oklahoma and she's broadcast journalism, nice and on Monday night and Monday night she hosts is sports studio show. And I'll see her show on Monday nights. Interview Dad or you're just going to be a fan. I'm just I'm just hanging out in the audience that is so awesome and what's What Year in School Seve She's a senior that is so awesome. Yeah. She's. She's forging ahead Probably this time next year being some little podunk town, right? Chica come produce our show. Too. Yeah. That's right. She can wake me up on Monday morning. But she's not gonNA. Ask you what Sager does no way. Your Dad. Hey. I gotta get back to this guy had the stroke your dad's buddy. Was He? Was He okay. I don't want to go any further on what happened at the end of the story. Where you're going to right? Now I really can't. Well. Yeah he's okay. Okay. That's good. At that. He really. So you you were. You're not joking it was Yahoo. All these guys. It's amazing. Everybody's Kinda. Looked around each other like. That It was a really weird feeling man it was. It was eight guys that are all in their eighties that that play. Four or five times a week dolphin that. Is What they do while I'm glad he made it. But how about that? You get to be fun for you to spend time with your POPs man that's awesome. It's your. Yeah. He he works every single day of his life never took a vacation day as I am retired about eight years ago and picked up golf and he breaks his he breaks his Asia tour. Wise. Almost every single round I that's pretty good. Realize. He better new. while I mean, he plays from closer t right Now scoring. Breaking if he's breaking he you as eighty, your father is. Eighty? You'll be eighty, four December. So if he's breaking eighty breaking eighty four almost every round, that's that's damn good golf no matter what tease your plan for at that age. Yeah. It good. Really good. If you had one course to play the rest of your life, what would it be? Can only play one course travel. How many times you've been there. I probably. Four Times. There's a major league baseball Alumni a bit ran out. Pebble Beach Spyglass Ass, and there's one more over there. Yeah. It's not poppy. It's I forget what the other one is but it just four four days You know just like games and in Scoop, you know tournaments in just it's all current and former players. That's a lot of that. They do that once a year. Yeah. are you Are you watching the World Series Steve. Yeah, you know not really intently I'm not a big dodger fan for obvious reasons. So I don't like to watch them that much I'm ready for Tampa nothing against a lot of people. I. Mean I love Keith Hernandez and. Those guys but. I've just. Kind of overall that stuff. Would you would you? I Love Baseball. I don't know I. Don't like the world series. Stand. Would you sign Trevor Bauer? If you were here, I mean if you were making decisions here in Houston. The budget constraints might be I think they'll save all that stuff out I would be more in favor of. I think deaf in your rotation is becoming more important with with the importance of the bullpens and I think he discontinued to stack and it sounds like. James Click even alluded to you know we're GONNA, we'RE GONNA get some arms down there we're going to get some looks different looks out there and you start with Josh Danes and the Noli rates and Brian. Presley. Good place to start right away as far as power. Nice. Start Mixing and matching gets guys together. Then I get real deep I would get eight even the in the in the rotation. I with that in mind have we seen the last of George here in and I know we don't want it to be that way your gut feeling on that. Steve. Feeling is yeah. You know everybody hope that that it's no, he's my favorite player on the team One reason why I felt like it it kind of stunt this year that there was no fan. So we didn't get to see those vague ovation's. Toward the end of the season taken about maybe his last home game in in certain things that he would do I think the fans really what showed their appreciation and there have been some goosebumps moment. springer in particular minima Spring and I love watching brain lease at bats. Hopefully he's back. He's. He's he's more affordable or. The man. George. Springer. That's that's a guy that I really came to love and I love his parents I missed his parents this year all that stuff. But George Springer is a really good person. That's going to suck. He's my favorite player on this team finally Steve If we were playing like Lord or Sentence Association and I said. Jeff. Luneau interview. What would you say? Oh Man. Well, before down at the Athletic came out yesterday. I was. I was thinking That he raised some very interesting point and then a lot of those were refuted. So I, don't know who to believe. So it's almost like watching the. Politicians yeah. Politics politics and debate to believe because I don't have the facts in front of me right now. So I don't know if I can. At this point you know it's it's over with. Very sad that. that. The. That era of Astros baseball is tarnished forever. Get remains to be seen. What's going to what? It's GONNA look like in ten years. But, it'll never be a team that's revered as much as it should be because of all the transpired and I'm sad for that I'm sad for the fan. Because of that because they can't. Truly. We all had those moments. We'd love every single minute of it. And we'll never you can never take that away from us. But you know looking back at it now you're wondering. And it's a shame I think the players feel the same thing they didn't have to do it. They really didn't have to do it. They were that good. Agreed you're a funny dude man great insight as well, and we're going to train somebody and we're GONNA. Let you drive train somebody to know how to wake you up on the West Coast about Sager does. Fair enough out. Do you'll you'll you'll do. Nobody better than you'd rather be safe enjoy eight not only enjoy your pops in your family and your mom but also enjoy your daughter. That's great. Stuff man I'm the jealousy you get to be with them all but it's so awesome to hear and you guys be safe out there hit him straight and enjoy your daughter's. Her show on Monday night rather. Guys let's go gossip wintertime. Yes. Yeah. Did make sure my invite doesn't get lost in the mail. Okay. I we'll get. We'll get out there real quick. What are you wearing? What are you wearing? My word overall John Deere Tap no-shirt. And a piece of strong. Your. Over. Love IT Steve thanks brother be careful about. Great stuff is he wanted the Alzheimer's he's my favorite. Oh my gosh. Time for good reason I. Want you guys to picture have been overall no-show so strong, it's actually taking him up on the golf thing we were supposed to. Them last off season and unfortunately sparky had to go and you know have health things go on. And I told them, I'm going to tell them again. Don't this off season clean bill of health thing we were supposed to call for them. Last off season and unfortunately sparky had to you know have health things go on. and. I told them. Yeah. I'm going to tell them again. Don't this off season clean bill of health and think about what he was telling story. How? First of all the resilience of of gold man strength right not. But his his dad's buddies right to the guy unfortunately doesn't get to play golf. Made it I'm sure it means even more to Steve Now considering what he went through right Oh, not going to play with a bunch of his dad's buddies I'm so glad he gets to. Those pry which I see my dad again I. Think it's awesome that he gets to do that those moments those are. Better than any moment, you'll ever having anything else being with the family man. That's awesome. Yeah. Reminds me like when I was young, that's how I learned to play golf with my GRANDPA and all his buddies and you'd never knew what the hell was going to happen with these old guys out on the court like the you know when I was eight, they would just they basically owned this course this. Stories. Would literally just go. Out of their way to play seven and then go play three. Make up their own. Each time. What are you going? Say just to make it different little nine hole course. And just so people know. Some of the stuff it was always sparky that. Would you know? What are you wearing or some of the stuff? I can't believe it was all you. I can't say. I believe. What he was wearing. Dirty on occasion. You should just see the text. It's ABC's over there studied the video. He sent Mesa. Sparking a kid one of the best of all time, we're lucky to have him your sports sportstalk seven ninety John Clayton and forty five minutes. Sean South ratio.

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AP Laboratory - Championship Week Mailbag (Ep. 109)

Arrowhead Pride

00:00 sec | 11 months ago

AP Laboratory - Championship Week Mailbag (Ep. 109)

"Doubts Patrick mahomes again. Low all everybody thanks for joining us today. My Name's kids wants and this is the AP laboratory celebrating divisional round victory in comeback fashion against the Houston Texans. What a way to kick off the play offs for the chiefs? Now they stand one one game away from hoisting the Lamar Hunt Trophy in Arrowhead against the Tennessee. Titans is going to be a good one but let's just get into some of the mailbag questions before for that. Hell here to help me. I find him on twitter at chief and Carolina Mattie Lane. Hello my friend how are you unguarded Once everybody sweating about we won by twenty and people at the white. It was difficult or something. I don't understand I mean Craig's here with US Craig. What what did you think about that? Oh you lost your voice at the game from yellow too much. Yeah that happened to have to be a lot when I go back to Kansas City. Go to Arrowhead to. We're glad you were there to cheer on the chiefs. I don't think they could have pulled this off. Yellow from the stands. Cray cray with us. You couldn't tell He he was suffering from a cold he also went to Arrowhead for the game. I'm really disappointed that Craig good and be a part of this one. I I feel really bad for him because he got to be part of that energy he got to be contributing to the noise. He got to see some things. first-hand got to watch that game first Tan so it's kind of a bummer. That you know that he wasn't able to do this. Believe me literally left it all on the field literally all being his voice. No Oh but I but actually will it it reality Craig's just pulling Chris Jones. He just he couldn't show up for the big game now. I'm just that sounded like a lot of shade and it shouldn't in have. I'm not trying to throw but I guess I just did. Not on purpose Josh mccown would yeah. That wasn't supposed to be shade. We got plenty of questions though. President is Avi tweeted out. You just said how's your weekend. It was pretty good. It was really good a lot of good things happen. We're GONNA uncover all those ap nerd squad at G.. Mill Dot com asked a question Andrew. Nagel asks with someone hurt That we saw so much dod on the field yesterday. What was your feeling about the play of one thornhill replacement? Am I crazy for thinking the bell dozer. Td was one of my favorite touchdowns sounds of the season. Thank you for the great work. I was very surprising to see Dory Know Dana. We'll get some snaps really. I mean I think it was just all garbage time either. I think there's a few snaps before the game was out of hand or you know necessarily just their run the clock out. He was mostly just spying to Shawn Watson that was is about the extent of what he did. I didn't see him do much of anything. I don't know if I'll be able to look too much into that yet. Mattie what'd you think of the Juan Thornhill Replacements Real quick on the Greater Daniel thing I think it was something that she's reworking on from Lamar Jackson and it just happened to be shot Watson thing but I almost put this in the podcast last last week when we got a question about Oh daniel that would be the one spot I could see. Him is just a dedicated spy because he's quick because he's done it in college before so so I wasn't too surprised to see it. I think they were really trying to get that ready for Lamar Jackson coming up. And now we don't need to force toward hills replacement. It seemed like kindle fuller got the Volk snaps in that role or it was named Sorenson the base defense it would kindle fuller next. They still didn't play years much single highs. They would want thornhill steak. But you're missing some range over the top but overall I think the guys did solid or Monywa few snaps. He played Sorenson kindle fuller. Dale did their job. Nothing was flashy. They didn't get beat either. They just. They did their job. They played well in the absence. And I don't think you're going to have to any other teams that have that kind of vertical passing threat that the Houston Texans axons provides. That's good news for the chiefs going forward. Mattie is is Andrew Crazy for thinking. The Bell Dozer was one of his favorite touchdowns of the season. The Plate was nice. I like the play design. I I am not as big of a blake delve into some other local people to Kansas City area. I think they play Bell's very good for the chiefs. I just know some people like to root for their own candy hero. Guys e fits that mold so I can see how that's really cool. I thought the play time is really nice. I'm glad that he was able to hold onto the football. That's been a little bit of issue so far this year. So I'm glad the celebration. After the Big Bell Touchdown was elite Fisher just exceptional. Oh man okay. Back to the twitter questions are are Guy Austin. See Him thirty three honest thoughts reactions after the chiefs. Went Down Twenty Four. Nothing that since you said this I will. I'll say I was really nervous but I think it was kind of sad in embarrassing to be net. Twenty four nothing to Bill O.. Rien Houston Texas. The bill O'Brien built don't lead Houston Texans. I thought the chiefs replying pretty poorly in. They needed to flip a switch. The game was going to get out of hand. I wasn't thinking we were out of it. I didn't think it was over but I was definitely on the fringe. Thinking this game could Turk real ugly real fast eight minute interval. Ugly real fast shows dead for the chiefs. I was just stunned. I mean it was just. It was a shock to the system to see what was happening and honestly I didn't think it was over. I really genuinely did not think it it was over. Did I think it was. They were in a good position. No they were a terrible position. It was awful everything that could go wrong did go wrong honestly. Asli wondered like as much the Dave Tope has cost this team a game before with his lack of preparation especially just happened to be the team that the chiefs extra playing next week in the AFC championship game. You've got to be perfect on special teams that week I wasn't I didn't think the game was over. Were it was just. It was stunning. It was a stunning start to that football game. I know a lot of people were angry. Furious the people were angry at me because I tried to be optimistic and spread positively about Patrick mahomes before the game was happening happening. I literally just open my comments up. I literally told everybody. Just if you need someone to vent at please feel free to visit at me. Because I'm already getting all kinds of he. He for being optimistic about this facility. It worked out okay. It worked out just fine but I know a lot of people were really upset to the point that they were booing a Patrick mahomes targets which I was Kinda surprised that too I understand why the history and all that stuff but yeah I don't know Mizzou daily. Is there a more emphatic. Way To debunk a curse than a racing. Twenty four point deficit in quarter. No Oh if you you there's no more curses there's no more talks of curses. There is none of that anymore. Patrick Lavar mahomes has busted busted all of the ghosts. He is the GHOSTBUSTER. He is the Bobby Yoga. He is soon to be the greatest quarterback in in the history of the sports. He is incredible already. They're already are fine already. There there is. There's nothing that this man can't do. He turned a classic comeback into a snooze fest. In the second half the chiefs this came back to beat the Texans Twenty eight twenty four in the first half and then just sixteen point win in the second half against the Texans. That man is a bad dude. And if you are ever going to bet against him rethink your life your entire life everything about it Patrick. Levada mahomes will not be denied. Could this gracious was that cool Nj age. Oh Oh nine. At what point did you think the chiefs were going to win the game. Mattie so did she that first touchdown I knew it was gonNA be a game and I felt there is confidence that they would win but I thought it would go down to the wire the moment the Dan Sorenson made the tack on the idea. The game was completely over. The Texans had no chance to win a soon as the ball. Right back to Patrick Mahomes. After he was hyped up he was after that first touchdown dump it was over. She's we're GONNA win by. They were GONNA cover. No questions asked but I thought when they scored the first touchdown they were back in it and going to hold off on. That was about it for me. I Love Dance Sorenson doing the. I'm too smart to his head like you could tell he hasn't done that very much. Like compared to tired a badger does it all the time. Dan Nearly all of that area and look at Daniel sorts very uncomfortable. Doing it was it was the top one moment for me. I think that was about the I think that was about the point where I had a pretty good feeling that they're gonNA win the football game input. Did they ever Benjamin de Fos. Where does this game rank on your list of craziest games? If you've ever seen it's GONNA BE PRETTY I. This is probably the drug is start to engage their team that she's making all the mistakes and then there was this rally and then all of a sudden Bill O'Brien's bill bribing all over the place in the taxes are making special teams mistakes. This game went from drunked wasted. It passed outed woke back up for round two digits kept going and then it can even that they hit their stride. That's and Patrick Mahomes. Cheese scored seven straight Dutch jets. One one other one other moment. Sorry would bill. O'Brien kick the field goal to go. Twenty four I thought to myself That's not a great choice. I had I had an inkling that something goes about to happen after that that that was so bad and he didn't have a call for it. How do you not have a call for fourth and inches like what is happening? That's definitely up there for one of the craziest games. Sir I've ever seen I was at chiefs colts in Indianapolis in two thousand thirteen. It was so depressing. That was a crazy game. Now it's on the good side. I'm on the good side of that game. Finally Casey Chief in one thousand nine hundred any point during the first quarter did your resolve weaken kid. Mattie yeah a little bit I think with the chiefs were down twenty four. Nothing in the way they went down is definitely a game could break the psyche the team. I didn't think you could see the chiefs on the sideline. They were fired up. You could see how they easily turn this back into a game. Put Him in. If you're down twenty four nothing in your in watching from home especially in my shoes right was. I thought that she's come out and start a lot hotter than that like that goes against how I thought their plan was to win in. But I wouldn't say I ever felt like it was over anything like that. You know I think the words resolve weaken did my resolve weakened. No here's the thing like I was over I was I was I was positive. I was overly positive. I guess on twitter this week trying to you know just remind people that all the anxiety of the past lineal. Lynn Elliott having no control over city. More that kind of stuff I just. It's it's not that you can't be you know nervous or anxious. It's just how the anxious manifest itself I think you know. I think a lot of times people come in with that here. We go again mentality and you kind of felt that early in the first in the first quarter it was just like this here we go again. Same Old Same Old. I don't think we need to contributed that energy anymore. You can be nervous but don't just. I don't think you should be so so beat up about the past of this football team that you're letting it affect your mood in the building like I don't know I just I I I understand everyone's feelings. I really do but just enjoy what you have enjoyed it. Patrick Mahomes is your quarterback and that he is going to fight you out of whatever curse gets thrown at you just I. I have some confidence. I'm totally defy with you. Having some I I totally with you having some nerves. Everybody I really. I just think you should have some confidence in this football team. Moving forward s essay Jordan Jordan. Four did we witness the awakening of the beasts. If we did is a team going to be able to stop it I think I honestly think this team being down twenty four showed the untapped potential of what this team is capable of doing everything. We've wanted to see this entire fire season. All gas no breaks. They really haven't done that at all this year. It's kind of been managed the game the defense can handle it. We you can kind of play complementary football no they just went out and said okay. We've got to try to play hard now. We've got a hard we've got to try to put the put the foot would on the on the gas a little bit. And when they did it was terrifying it was terrifying. I know that the titans had no answers for eighty theme theme or the Texas had no answers for anything they were challenging down the field. They were tried man coverage. beat it up beat like a drum all that anxiety and worry and fear we had about this team beating may coverage Gone Eddie. Everything was working and then eighty started throwing some jets. And there he gave he gave if Dean pees and Tennessee a lot to think about that. That thing is an absolute monster and I think the titans are terrified to have to play with that thing. So they're going to tried to do it. The Patriots did with the ball control. I think Kim's onto something there. I think the team the they didn't necessarily wake up but there was a lack of urgency. It seemed like at times the chiefs offense this year. It is a general overall demeanor especially the offensive side of the ball. They thought they were good enough which they were. They were not playing playing hard but there just wasn't this urgency to score. Its who are fast score big all the time you saw that comeback. I think going down twenty four. Nothing else I you get the sense that there was a little bit of extra trash talk going on from Houston Texans Early Nineteen seventy nothing twenty four nothing. You feel like there was a little bit the trash talk going on. I think his off achieves a little bit I think being down pissed the cheese off once they settled in got through some of those jobs to start it was over in. Lincoln said it's terrifying for defense is going up against them. I are already shirt. Jj Watt has pinned up. Patrick Mahomes Mitchell Schwartz and Travis Kelsey posters all over his cabin so he can go up there and brewed in the defeat and you will feel but he will definitely film it for us to see non attire for minor. Just staring at a picture of Patrick Mahomes to look to persist Q.. Who Do okay? He'll change the awards. Make sure you know. His pack was torn knee. Returned from it though. Oh he'll let you know he'll let you know he's probably gonNA show you. He probably did a series on the on the Rehab AB. He probably did a series on the Rehab that we haven't seen yet and that the theme song is is remember the name by Fort Minor so. Jj Watt Burger. Exactly exactly okay. This is just jumping off the rails vitamin Jay. Is it good for chief's Fan so experience a game like this to break. The chiefs are cursed mindset. I hope so. I don't know obviously not from the players. The players don't care. I hope this is. I think I hope this is what really elite just finally breaks whatever anxiety that we have the chiefs next week. It's not going to be perfect. There's there's probably gonNA be some feelings of helplessness when the run game gets going for the titans if the cheese don't just start blazing fast. There's GonNa be some anxiety in the building but no oh the Patrick Mahomes can can fight you out of that. He genuinely came because he keeps continuing to prove it time and time again. I hope this is what breaks the curse. What have you with with fans batty? I think it showed. You should not kill Kirsty more if your team loses. It's because the other team is better. It's because you weren't playing as good. It's that simple. I think you just saw the biggest combination of there is no way. This team can possibly be cursed when they pull that off. Unfortunately I think you already have a fair amount of people clamoring about the titans and the chiefs thing curse against them despite coming off the heels of this game. I don't make it goes away until the chiefs. beat the titans. Okay Ethan. Kanchi asks Patrick. Mahomes the greatest quarterback of all time. I think he's well on his way. I genuinely do Mattie. I mean I think he's definitely the greatest quarterback of all time. We can into automates over. I mean who else is going toe drags. They flipped the ball. The Travis Kelsey onto scramble. Keep their football scrimmage. How many third downs thirty goal will like there is so many third and goals that they just executed like? Oh my gosh. He's playing at a not like I was watching the game and doing some of my all twenty two thousand how's redoing and doing some work On this on this game and I'd the guy was just he was galaxy brain just on a different different level. He was playing three chests and everyone else was playing checkers. Data's sixteen seventeen. What is the most impressive thing about Patrick? mahomes this is a very loaded. Question is easy to say everything some other take this question to heart and actually answer it right now. Most impressive thing about Patrick mahomes homes is his ability to CVs tire field in process. What's happening and I don't mean players getting open? I don't need coverages or anything like that. I've been seeing a defensive defensive holding penalty twenty yards downfield at the corner of his eye. I mean seeing way to line of scrimmage is a known to drag his foot is he walks by as drifting by by knowing where players are willing to take off. He's general fueled vision in an how quickly he processes. It has nothing to do with actually throwing the ball to an open player is absolutely insane. And it's caught me off guard more times than want I. I think that's basically kind of how I feel. His ability to process process the game at such a high level like last last night like obviously there was some some really good athletic plays and he made some athletic throws from from athletic platforms on some short throws and stuff like that but overall I think his ability how slow the game is to him. He didn't use his athletic traits at an absurd third level last week or yesterday it wasn't like he was just flying around throwing you know left handed he was you know not thrown it off his back foot and driving a ball and just trying to fitna in a whole after scrambling all of the field. Obviously there are some of those things but overall like what you saw from Mahomes was just sharp quick decisions throughout the game I i. He was almost perfect his his timing getting out of the pocket his timing running against you know man looks when when the when the coverage was down the field These little those little justice like the toe drag all his ability to process the game is is absurd and I'm never going to not appreciate it. And that's all the things that he does on. The mental side cannot be overlooked but they often are. And that's what's one of the things that we're always trying to like profile when we're when we're talking about on Arrowhead private we're gonNA take a break. We will be back right after this. I'm Songwriter Charlie. Hurting and I'm musicologists made Sloan or the host of switched on pop. podcasts cast about the making and meaning of popular music every week. Charlie and I breakdown. The most interesting hits trends and artist understand what they're doing what they're saying and and why the songs are so infectious. We've recently broken down. Billy eyelashes music. 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Titans the good news by the titans. is they take their deep shots off play action. They're not trying to just be vertically. Like the Texans will so you might not need to play too high nears often. They don't have the receivers that are going to beat you. Vertically like new coppins or will fuller will or Kenny stills even over over again then they get you by Jong Afford against runcie. I think that she will be able to play a little bit more single high. I think you they trust their corners on the outside one on one coverage it bit them in the back a few times but they trusted to do it there. Okay with doing it at times. Take the only have more trust against Hannele in. Aj Brown Corey Davis Taj. Ajay Sharp. You know whoever the titans are going to put out there outside the vertically ready aim lion asked how important is Jones to the defense against the titans seems. I like a game for more naughty in panel to make the Middle Stout met. We will definitely talk about this later in the week in. Hopefully Craig can combated join us for this to come. Sure he's got takes but for me. I definitely baked cheese defense so lot more chat with Derek Nadi Colin Sanders Mike Panel Manning. The A defensive tackle spots the problem. Is this Tennessee. Titans offense divide has been blowing. Defensive Tackles Defensive Linemen off a ball and if that's that's GonNa happen no matter who you putting out there. You need penetration you need. Guys that can get into backfield baked. It can really slow down to change directions. That's were Christians. Does win wind better than all those guys but in terms of being a stout run stuffing anchor yet. They're definitely stronger up without him. I don't know if the titans are the best match up to really flex that kind of stuff and build it with Chris Jones. You'RE GONNA lose some gap integrity at times with his ability to penetrate because sometimes he's doing it maybe not necessarily within the structure but in a situation like this. Where if you could just get Tennessee behind the sticks little bit off few plays here? They'RE GONNA get theirs in the run game. They're going to be able to move the chains and drive down the field with some success running the football but if you can get them behind the chains with play behind the line of scrimmage or Chris Jones is just able to penetrate you know Oh enforced Derrick Henry to move laterally that changes the variables of the run play significantly for a guy like Derek keys. Extremely linear now. He's like a freight train. He's running on tracks and he's impossible to stop after he gets going making a move. A little bit can really change the variables variables of the run game for the titans. And that's something if it should. Christians can kiss penetration and change that path. It could really help us football team. Captain Danny asks what changes changes in their game plan for the chiefs with or without Christians. Many think we had a tight into an already there without Chris Jones. You're probably GONNA ask for a a little bit less stunting from the inside of your defensive line you probably not going to have Mike. Now looping around the outside like you can do with Chris Jones. You probably can't throughout quite as Menino hard slates from the defense line. Those guys can still do it. They can still play with power. Do think definitely lose penetrating ability up the middle so instead and you're gonNA try to probably have a little bit more to getting out of your defensive tackles. Baby tried to get into play a little bit farther past scrimmage but you're just GonNa hope they can hold their spots a little bit more whereas Chris Jones you don't ask him to anchor. You ask the two gap you Kinda. Just let him attack in hope he shoots the right gap in the running back. Can't get away from him because he really can't make explosive plays verse to run he. Just sometimes we'll get a position to chief. lutts eleven asks hills role has seemed to diminish lately. Is it game plan. Is there a reason. No I don't think it's really diminished. I mean he's still being utilized and a lot of different ways he still a guy that teams are terrified absolutely terrified of his opportunities just not necessarily have come the same kind of clip that you're typically used to seeing with him and so This very well could be a game. Where you you see Tyreek Hill have some success? And it's not like he wasn't. He didn't do some good things this because he definitely did. He had some big plays. It's just it's not a game plan. Being being his his value in his role isn't being diminished at all. It's just the nature of where the targets are going right. Now you can say teams are trying to take tyreek Hill Woah. That is the goal of so many teams right now. I think maybe team Saint Travis Kelsey is a little slower. Maybe they just take the tyree kill beats them. More often attracts. Kelsey does. But we've you've seen a complete shift from where we started to the two thousand eighteen season to where we are now. The two thousand nine hundred eighty s tyree kill is the guy who stop stop. Besides Patrick Mahomes for the cheese. It's one hundred percent. You Stop Tyreek Hill and you kind of have to let Travis Kelsey do his thing being afterthought Texans did it. You're GONNA see the titans most likely try to do it when that happens. It just opens up other guys. I think you saw as soon as Travis Kelsey got the brunt of that kind of focus tyreek hill draws along fastener phoenix. Yup GonNa work going forward. Yup One hundred the that's the nature of it you saw towards the end Travis. Kelsey literally got double team. I think matter you tweeted it out. They used they treated. They retreated Travis Kelsey as a punt gunner. Yes they took a tight. They headache tied in. They put two guys on the line of scrimmage like they were trying on the block a punt gutter and may still both grabbed a handful of a lot of times. They'll keep a guy over the top Travis Scott tyreek Hill. So there's there's teams that have done that at times uh-huh Intra entirety will still found ways to get his. But it's not like I don't think Andy's going away from tyreek at all and that's how you get Patrick. mahomes was running for fifty yards right. They're playing man coverage Ad in there dedicating a safety over the top tyreek Hill. There's no one to watch Patrick. Mahomes it's happening. It's it's not just helping other receivers you get. Everyone covered balls is taken off the free space. mckinney's not chasing him down now. No power with that and Bendy and asked why has Leshan McCoy disappeared completely. It's puzzling to me. He has value. Should he should be fresh. I think we've if you've been listening to the show. We've tried to tell you that the load management may not necessarily be reality. It seems seems like some of this some of these load management arguments and all this stuff we were gonna find out what was real and what was not. They're not it's is not load management. It's Andy thinks he stinks management. It's Andy doesn't trust him management. I believe he got one. SNAP APP this week. Andy does it have the same level of trust him right now may maybe. It's the fumbling issues maybe it's protections. Maybe as they think he elax bursts I made it took Damien Williams that eighty three yard run to take to surpass him on yards per carry for the season. I'm just telling you there's something there. It's a lack of trust. It's a lack of belief in his ability. Now it's not load management and pretty. Are you sure it never was Aero Dacas asks which has which was more encouraging from this game seeing significant snaps from Dory know Daniel or seeing significant snaps from Rashad shod Fenton Rashad fit and for me pretty easy I think during the day note that good job in his very specific special role he had a very defined role role. He did good with it. But it's just not a role you're gonNA use time and time again in reality. You don't WanNa have to use a special place for that role you'd rather be something that's on the field for other herself. Rishaad fin on the other hand. He was impressive last week of the regular season when playing outside corner he looked pretty good this week. He got a little outside corner interrupts but it was kind of dislike the kindle fuller hybrid safety slot DB kind of role and begin. He made a couple of plays. I liked his tenacity. I think he's GonNa be player. It's going to help the chiefs going forward. Eighty never star. But he's GonNa actually help the regular defense on a more down by database. I re watched the Game Rashad. Fen was making some plays man. I've read plays on the football. He was in good position. He should've the cut that interception. Consider me he's feisty. I think I might even said that. He's just. He's a feisty player. He could stay. He can stay. Yeah you can play on my football team. I'm fine with him. Being around moving forward be Gwynne sixteen asks. How great of a performance did Frank Clark have without Chris? Jones to help with the three-man rush a lot in the second half. I don't think you can really put into words. You just kind of watch the game. Aim how good Frank Clark was. The defense didn't allow the Texas discourse points at the jumped out at me. They played very well and it was really hard to pinpoint where where it was worked. Like what were they doing. So well stopping the Texans and a lot of it started with Frank Clark. The chiefs were doing a lot of mushroom S.'s. They were trying to. They contain Deshaun Watson. They were not having four. Even three guys usually try to tender ears back and get the sack. They essentially let their left defensive in which most of the time was was. Frank Clark just rushed passer. Everybody else was trying to contain shrink. The pocket Frank Clark talked about it at the presser. They had some good film on Watson. They knew where he wanted. Go and useful and more than one occasion. He made Watson told the ball down scramble he got the three sacks. He was all over Watson all the time. I don't think it just. It's hard to put into words. How good he was how much he affected? That game ever kept Texas from having a chance to stay he had three sacks and he could've had five he very easily could have had five sacks. My man was active. Everyone who was trying into dunk on Frank Clark. My guy has ten sacks in the last nine games he is going on in absolute hair. He said you know January anywhere December football. Well he's brought it in January and December football and he might just bring it all the way to February the way he's playing. My Guy is blowing out out lately. He's disruptive he's active. He plays with insane effort. That's that's why they paid him. That is why they paid him. He played through all these injuries. All season he's gone through so much this entire year and then my guy is out here running forty two yards the second longest longest yards on a sack the entire season outstanding effort. You never question his motivation his effort he brings it every week. The chiefs needed that. They didn't have that last year hint hint week week. Further in the middle of the game he adjusted his right elbow. Brace in the next three plays I watched. He did not use that right onto a single say he engaged everything with his left arm. He made a tackle and he uses use his right shoulder not his hand arm after he just the brace he shot shaken it out. He didn't use that hand for three days. You know what happened on third down after that. He beat the tackle Michael He dove. It wants it. He didn't make the sack he made him move. He tried to bring him out that right on that was Oregon. But here's a guy who clearly was paying for that series. He couldn't use his is right arm. He still made a tie helped make tackling running back and got a pressure on the Shawn Watson. We didn't have a guy that would even be willing to do that last year. Would he would. He wouldn't have been on the field. You wouldn't have been active. I am Emmerick asked. Did terrel suggs contribute Matt. Yes he made an early good place scraping. Down the line of scrimmage against the run and I think it's hard depend. What other pass rushers did besides Frank Court because because like I said they were trying to contain a lot they were getting a couple yards upfield ended? They were just trying to hold their position. They weren't even really trying to get after Watson to give them avenues to escape. The defensive tackles passing Terrell suggs. Even Reggie Ragland a few times. Did a very good job taking up space but not being locked down by block or so. That Watson couldn't get away for whoever was rushed off that West Side Matt lure asks what adjustments if any needs to be made for more more. Solidify solidified play specialties. It's happening at a more alarming clip than we're used to seeing here on the special teams side of it. This is not been a good year. Obviously obviously there's been some good positive moments in some of the yardage stats and all that stuff for Great Lakes special teams. There's been critical mistakes and its with. Its with guys that Dave had is this entire year. It's not like they're just throwing a bunch of new guys in the mix look like Doria no Daniel. Bill was a guy that he might have had a a blown assignment on the block. pint fumbles. That's been a mistake a lot this year on special teams in and just in general. They've got to clean this up. I don't think there's anything specifically they can do. They just got to be put on high alert. They just need to have good communication throughout the week. They have to have good focused sessions with the coaching staff on special teams this entire week because they can't afford to make a mistake like they did the last game and the last time they played the titans to there's no margin for error for special teams to do something obviously especially did some great stuff this week. They did the return by Nicole. Hardman the fumble that Darwin Thomas in the controller like God unplugged halfway through his run On the fumble return. There was some good stuff that happened though there was but you gotta tighten everything up. It was probably a net positive this week but you you have these critical mistakes that put your team in a bad position Shuba Shoe Bader asks. How much much better has the offensive line looked? Since the shuffle. Big Fish looks healthy and angry. Starting Fisher it's does his best game I think he's played all year. Whitney Mercilus in the past has given them trouble he didn't see a lot of. Jj Watt Game piece all out. Merciless in the past. He's given Fisher troubles goals. I Know Whitney Mercilus isn't quite the same two three years ago but Fisher handled him amazingly. Well he has great place space. He looks like he's feeling a little little better. Maybe has a little more confidence back in yet. Overall the offensive line since was news. He's gotten there since pats settled down a little bit back. They're out them out. A little bit bore by stepping forward and not always drifting back. They've looked significantly better. Run Blocking Syllabi Though Devon Travis Twenty nine asks why hasn't McColl Hardman's supplanted D. Rob and get the roundtree knowing the offense but he's just way better Hashtag should bang the drum. I I don't know why but I mean I know that it sounds like the route tree and knowing the offense is is is a boring answer but I do think there's a lot to that and I think there's just a level of trust that they have with direct Robinson rightly or wrongly. He had an an awful game. Just awful I think he had one catch for seven yards and four drops for what could have been you know thirty forty yards. He had some crucial drops backdrops in bad times. And a lot of the booze that were being that were going out and Arrowhead. We're because of Damarcus. Robinson however McCall Hardman. Despite all that saw fifteen percent of the snaps this week fifteen fifteen or seventeen they just. They haven't been in niche role. He comes in he catches a jet sweeper too I'm sure he's going to get a couple of shots to run down the field vertically this week. Maybe he'll come uncovered on one of them. That's just that's just his rookie year. I think you just gotTa live with that. So cal eleven. Eighty six against the titans who is more important to stop tannahill. Were Henry Matt. This is the one team in the NFL. Pick the non quarterback for in. It's only because the simple fact the titans have no problem near the ball thirty times. A dictating your defense has to stop the run which allows Tannehill to look like. He's playing incredibly well in which he's playing good but he's getting. The most favorable looks because teams have to sell up Henry and I do think you have to or he will run the ball forty times and he will have over two hundred yards and it's one of the few teams that could win by rubbing the ball. I think part of the reason that I want to focus on. Here's here's I think it's Henry and here's why it's not about time of possession. It's not about I'm not a big just run. The football time guy. What the titans are capable of of doing which is smart is is reducing the number of possessions that the chiefs can have they? Can the cheese got thirteen possessions. This week the titans could very easily reduce the number of possessions that the cheese can get and if they start slow it makes it much more difficult for them to slow down. I want to turn this game into Patrick. MAHOMES versus Ryan Tannehill. Turn it into that game. I would love for this game to be Patrick. MAHOMES versus Ryan Tannehill even with favourable favorable looks that Titania Hill will certainly get that. He's got all year. Give Me Patrick. mahomes versus Ryan Tannehill Hill. Max Are Quillet asks the biggest chief strength and the biggest chiefs weakness going into the AFC AFC championship game. Also love your show. You guys make my commute from work in traffic way. Better Max Quill thank you so much. Appreciate that the biggest strength of the chiefs right. Now it's their passing offense if they go out there and they go do some the stuff that they did this week they if they play it that kind of level they are going to set Tennessee on fire. Nashville will be ablaze. It will it will be. It will be amazing. Their biggest weakness I still think is their secondary. And you saw that this week. The safety's he's not being there. Not Good Chart. Various Ward had his worst game as a chief without some of the benefit of of the help that he typically gets with one thornhill back there. Charles had a rough day. I don't trust the secondary good news is tied the football. I think the best thing about team right now is just the weapons. It's easy to go with Passing off in general or Patrick Mahomes like those are the easiest obvious answers but I do think these weapons. The chiefs have whether it's daming website runner or receiver all the wide receivers Travis Travis Kelsey at Titan. That's a lot of weapons even average quarterback with these weapons in Andy Reid. It's the coach can do so much damage in the playoffs. We've seen Alex Smith half these amount of weapons. Put up points in spots. You can take in average quarterback that can do a lot of good. You get tyreek Hill. Sammy Watkins Travis Ghetto stimulus so on and so forth so many with that for the strength. The Weakest Part Conservative coaching. We didn't see it against the Texans. But we've all seen it over this tenure with Sandy Reid head coach. Get a little bit of lead. Take your foot off. The gas. Allow The Times to come back beach you. We've seen that more than once more than twice. So that's GonNa it'd be my biggest weakness just conservative coaching. Especially once you have the lead you guys what you WanNa hear. Some some reasons for optimism there mattie Andy Reid conserve served. Coaching migrate cut from that same cloth and maybe even a darker darker color of that cloth. That guy is he he's made some very boneheaded coaching decisions to the point where when we were talking in the middle of the year to to a titans beat writer a titans writer for espionage on Arrowhead Pride Radio. He wanted to fire my grable because of his decision making didn't work workout so well for him there but I think if it comes if it comes to in game. Coaching Decisions Migrate is going to have to change his stripes to be honest See floods zero ask will tyreek hill ever be trusted to return the ball again. I believe he went back. And return to ball after or caught apply after the fumble so yes he will be trusted. Jay Pez twenty-five often keep up the pace or keep it keep pace up against the titans. Fifty one points to three quarters. Probably not but I think that she can score an insanely hard clip for any team to keep up with especially the Tennessee. Titans Titans and I do expect them to do that. Titans of Hot Street. I just think that she's going to be that kind of buzzsaw team right now is going to have everything. Click these last couple of games. Amy Yes I do too plummer sixty six will the chiefs play. Mike Panella this time around. Yes they will. We'll see if it matters. He's he's definitely going to. I would be stunned. He's enacted this week because I'm sure that they're going to bulk up. Especially if Chris Jones is absent to try to to try to stop the royal along the interior ear NASC- H four seventy nine. Asked each of you guys get thirty seconds to give motivational speech to the chiefs straight off the top of your head. What are you going to say? Go No matter. Listen you as playing the Tennessee. Titans they are led by quarterback. The Miami Dolphins like go. His name is Ryan Tannehill. He's had had a great year. His name's Ryan Tannehill. He's playing well for them. They are run. I in his name is Ryan Tannehill. You have Patrick Mahomes. I don't need thirty seconds against. It's Patrick Mahomes. It's Ryan Tannehill. The game is over okay. Think about all the adversity that you guys. We've been through. Think of all the stuff that you've have had to deal with the process that you've went through to build this football team on both sides of the ball. The adversity you went went through with injuries. There's one way that this can end all of the things that have happened to this point. All the things that you've played through all the things that you've you've done to get to this point including an amazing trip amazing performance last week all of that. There's one way that this can end and it's a super super bowl go do it. Simply Pat Diaz. Who are up? I gotta get back in here. This has go on record Kinshasa's known this question is coming for at least twenty four hours. I saw it three seconds before I had to answer to just when you're judging are motivational speeches. Keep that in mind I didn't know that they were judging him. But there's judgement. Oh well I hope I one don't take anything. Mattie just said into consideration he's had the questions to for a while so I mean whatever simply Pat de asks who are X.. Factors for each phase offense defense special teams heading into next week. Well guess what we have a show dedicated to that and more the Game Preview Edition for the AFC championship game will be up on Friday. We'll be taking care of that question and plenty more getting ready for what could be the chiefs. Hoisting Lamar Hunt Trophy for the first time at add airland. We'll catch you.

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TNF Recap Texans-Colts & NFL Network's Cynthia Frelund

"Here's gets a block. and gets the touchdown block from the tight end Jack Doyle and and Jacoby passes third rushing touchdown of the season. There's Williams survives hit keeps on going to the end zone for the touchdown radar mechanic. Couldn't bring him down boxing. Top again say hi to mom again. Aw thirty yards judy. Andre might be the game right here. Chance for the colts getting pick it up. He cannot fly made by scarlet and percents. Marc short of first down yardage. Texans will take those who are good friends. Joe Buck and Troy Aikman. I'm Greg Rosenthal with Chris. Wesseling wesseling again on Thursday night Texans wrapped up a twenty seventeen victory over the colts which might just mean. We're we're watching the Shawn Watson in that first Saturday. ESPN wildcard slate. Because I think the AFC south only get one playoff team. And the Texans are are in first place at seven and four. There was a really tight game that could have gone either way. And it was such a I guess showcase showcase for the different styles distinct styles of play that really channels. They're quarterbacks with the Shawn Watson going for the big play hitting those long air air yards play. And you see the difference. I think will fuller and T. Y.. Hilton where the two injured wide receiver. X. Factors will fuller goes for seven and one hundred and forty. I think and T. Y.. Hilton had those two third down almost catches that were big but didn't really wasn't much of a factor outside of that. Texans Texans receivers dominated the game coach. Receivers really didn't show up. No that was the difference to me was fuller and Hilton. And then the guy's throwing the the ball drops those plays on a night where the colts move the ball pretty well but they're gonNA move it slowly. There weren't many possessions in this game. The I was just a clear drop and the second one again in the second half where they only had the ball four different times he ended two drives with two drops because he was not explosive. If you're not beating Jonathan Joseph one on one in man coverage. That's not the T. Y.. Hilton that we're used to seeing whereas will fuller had all the juice and I am not saying he's better than the Andre Hopkins. He's not nuke. Went for six hundred ninety four and two touch couple long touchdowns in a great silent. But we're kind of the x factor. He's a little sizzle he's the little ingredient you know when you're back on the big green egg you know you gotTa have your piece of steak. That's that's Watson and nuke but fuller's that little ingredient that only west ad that puts it all together and actually makes it special we we've talked about how much he means to this offense that Shawn's Watson's numbers are like best in the League when will fuller is in the lineup and just plain average without him and I saw next Gen stats said that. He's more than twice as likely to throw a deep ball with willful or on the field as he has when Willfuller sideline. It's all the difference in the world for this offense. Well there they were one of the worst teams in the league throwing vertically this year which is crazy because if you watch this game you saw three of the prettiest deep balls that you'll ever see the to to fuller. And then the second touchdown to hopkins the only touchdown they got you know until that fourth quarter plate to Hopkins was on a total blown coverage verge. I actually thought the colts defense for the most part did a good job. They stuffed the run most of the night. Hide and Duke. Johns had one good run each but this look like in a game that was very even. It's just like how are you GonNa win. Or are you GonNa win throwing the ball or you're GONNA win trying to run the ball down the other teams throats. The two colts touchdown drives on one of them. Came off of it. The Shawn Watson Interceptions. Seven street runs the other one. They ran the ball ten out of eleven times. It's it's just a fine line. Jacoby did not look right. I don't know if they change their game plan based on how he's playing or he is just moving slow but he certainly seemed to be like processing slow and not getting rid of the ball and I saw some comments Coulter Winnie and man coverage. Jacoby gotta go give them give them a chance and I thought this was is one of his worst games. He didn't look healthy. If you're thrown for five yards per attempt against this Texas defense who is missing almost their entire starting secondary that that's a problem well The colts entered this game. Twenty eighth in passing yards per game and fourth in rushing yards per game. This is who they are. And I think if I try to get in the mind signed Frank Reich. That game plan was not only. Is this who they are. But I've got a banged up quarterback who isn't moving quite as well and also have a very depleted pleaded wide receiver core. I can't count on them to win. Downfield so I'm GonNa Saddle of Jonathan Williams again and it worked for for those two drivers you talked about. It really worked when they impose their will for two drives but the bottom line is Frank Reich decided to live and die with the running game and he died with it. I mean you're you're you'RE GONNA die but against against the defense where the clear weakness is the secondary one of the worst secondaries in the NFL. One point this was something that John MacLean tweeted the the venerable Texans Houston Chronicle reporter. After that I touchdown that colts running drive the colts have taken. The Texans is manhood. The offensive line is humiliating. The Texans Front seven time for them to call their mommies. I WanNa what a C. D. J. Reader and Whitney Mercilus face John MacLean tonight in the locker room and say hey we call their mommies. We got some stops down the stretch. I love John Maclean because he was so nice to me when I did the love. You blew article the long-form I did but I do think he leans into into too little bit on these nationally. Televised game though. He's just getting emotional. you think everybody's watching his twitter on these games. Yeah that might be part of it. It the Jacoby per se injury though I mean. He's wearing that huge brace and on one of the key plays the game. It's a fourth and seven. He drops back to pass again. He doesn't pull the trigger. uh-huh maybe maybe no one's open on that play but he has a lane to go pick up seven yards. And most starting quarterbacks are GONNA pick up those seven and he picks up six six and he's moving slowly and even if he doesn't have that brace on it's like I think he's picking up that that first down on most nights and that was the difference there he's about a yard short and you don't know what's going to happen then I totally agree. I think I've seen Jacoby percent make that play. When he's healthy and he could have also been more decisive taken off a couple of seconds earlier and maybe had a better window but You look at this game and I see a Texas team. That's going to be riding in high. Because they're in first place. That was a huge game. You know they were calling it a playoff game but the colts. You don't hang your head to too far because next week. You're you might have devin funchess in Paris Campbell. Back T. Y.. Hilton Kobe percent will presumably be a little bit more healthy. They were playing in the secondary without a couple of impact. Rookies and rock. Yacine Cari Willis. Maybe those guys come back they were. They were a depleted team on the field tonight and I think that was reflected the result a close game. Where if they're healthy and might have gone differently? Your heart your football heart is a very strange thing you were not into the colts early in the season is in. I wouldn't say exactly the world on fire over the last month in fact they've lost three games out of four now and yet watching this game with you at your house. I was pleasantly surprised to see that. You're a fan of the called. Suddenly once again with their defense. Got Me back in there. They're so young they they were playing. Nine four rookies regularly before those injuries. And they're fast to the ball. Their Past Russ did not show up tonight. That was a big factor but I like watching their defense and I went into the game kind of subconsciously rooting for them but by the end of the game it was such a close game that I it. It didn't bother me to see either team is my takeaway though. I'm not sure her. How dangerous the Texans are I know? Deshaun Watson is great and tonight you saw a lot of what made them great with a deep ball and the throws on third down but you also saw you know one interception that set up the colts touchdown you saw two interceptions that were dropped by the colts including what could have been killer one in the fourth quarter and he fumbled the ball in a situation at the end of the game. We should talk about where the only thing that's excellence had to do was not fumble. Are there any fumble. The ball and the officials determined. He recovered the ball and twitter and everyone else was fired up that how could they not review that play and it does look strange. I get it. We rewound TV. Copy and the official that standing right on top of Deshaun Watson and had a better view than anyone else says. It's Watson's ball so he seemed to indicate that there was a fumble and he indicated that Watson recovered recover the ball and people are GonNa Kill Them for not reviewing that. But I don't know there's like you can't overturn. There are rules. And the rule is you can't overturn that unless there's GonNa be some sort of clear recovery and you're not going to get a clearer view. Then that I know I'm going to get called the companyman here. This was one and I don't think there was some controversy. That's just it was what it was there was. We never saw another view that showed that the colts recovered. The Guy Standing on top of them says Watson's got at the bar. What are you GONNA do? You can't overturn that. I think they keep this purposely vague about when river on can just buzim from New York and tell officials it. Hey here's what happened. And my guess is in that situation said they recovered VAT late in the game river on buzzes in and says. Hey we got nothing here. There's nothing on the replays that will overturn this. The colts have the titans bucks at at New Orleans. Home for Carolina at Jacksonville Jacksonville. That's a pretty good schedule. The only game where they play a team with a winning record the rest of the way is at New Orleans. The Texans is on the other hand. Don't play by the way. Neither of these teams play until December. I you want a little. Hey this season is moving along again. Their next game is December first. And it's a home game came on Sunday night against the Patriots. Then they have the Broncos at Titans at bucks in back home to the titans so they get titans two out of three times down the stretch. If I'm the colts and I'm looking can at that schedule I don't feel too bad. You know the Patriot. They both have won really tough game and then they both have a bunch of Tossup Games at Texans. Don't look unbeatable to me but the Texans to me are just the more dangerous team but as as a home as a patriots homer. I gotta say I expected to be really the afraid of this Texans team and maybe they will get better offensively over the next few weeks certainly pass protect pretty well. They're pretty complete offensively but the defense to me lacks lacks so much juice. I don't know if they're really going to be that dangerous of an out even if they win the division. Yeah I agree. The Texans have a higher ceiling because of their quarterback and their stars on offense but they also have a fatal flaw in that secondary and the colts. Don't really have a fatal flaw there just isn't that hot Some fans following the timeline. That are not fans of Jacoby would would disagree with you saying they're limited by the QB. I think he can play better and tonight. I don't think he's a complete liability. Like the Texans secondary is you know who else is not a complete liability hands marks tessler Cynthia freeland. They're all our friends and we got together a little earlier today West and wanted to get inside the mind I learned. Ah from this interview. I learned a lot and Cynthia. I'm kind of intimidated by what she's going on with with her with her models there we'll see she's intimidating figure but apparently she was intimidated by. She thought she thought we didn't like her. We get we get into that. We get into the personal thing and like I said on our previous show. If you haven't listened to I I think this is setting up a character that we're going to have on in the future because I think that sort of analytical mindset is is an interesting vantage point point to get on the show and I'm sure we'll have down the line but I'm excited to throw it over to Dan and in us to hear from Cynthia so here you go all right as promised a special guest in the studio. She's become a friend of the PODCAST. She doesn't think so she vote to some of us. Cynthia freeland welcome to the around the NFL podcast. For the first time you know it only took what this is my fourth season here. I think you guys guys hated me or I mean. Now you're two of you are forced to work with me on a regular basis. So it's really broken the ice but I thought you hated me. Let's dig into this a little bit because yes data start out there. I love this because I work on the power rankings show on Wednesdays which you can catch on Youtube or NFL DOT COM at noon Eastern. Also Cindy works with Gregg Rosenthal on Game Day view which is also a digital entity. See that shows up on. NFL Network over the weekend. So Yeah we've gotten to know you better greg before we throw it to to kissing cousins. Did you ever have any the negative feelings towards now that the president. I think you saying that you thought we hated. You says more about you and it really really does about us you you know we run into issues. I think because we don't really have many guests on the show. In general. There are people that we've worked with a lot longer for this. If I had to go through it that we probably so you know alienated. Well no I know you have something personal with mark. That's weird like the rest of the trust your instincts instincts or Ted on what is so where did the west and mark specifically. Where did things go wrong? Let's let me know where it went wrong. I just like we don't spend a lot of times you know it's just it's one of those it's one of it's like oh I just don't think they like me very much. You seem very busy from the right to an outsider's view so it's it's more about. SNP Cynthia than the minus thirteen different for an NFL network shows. I need number fourteen or else it's not going to be complete. We have Cynthia freeland quotes hanging in my house. Well I didn't think you hated. Let's link Cynthia all all but I hit on the game. Debut set last week back and said the all but the beat Greg and I actually because Cynthia's a woman that gets what she wants. She's been doing it her whole career. That's why she's is. Your background is analytics. And you become the go-to person in this building in that realm. And you're you're famous. I would say when there's only one of you you're inherently the best the worst and the most average now I mentioned this is the my like rendering of your fame as I mentioned I was doing the show with you you and and Andrew Hawkins and my dad was like Oh. I Know Cynthia freelance like he doesn't watch any. NFL Network on the Sunday morning game. Show and wow now. I'm not saying I want this but one of my favorite thing. Oh Gosh we're going. I go way back with Ian Rapoport and I I know his personality anytime we hire Hira reporter. That's good. He gets very worked up. He gets nervous he gets agitated. He's worried he wants. This review is insider corner and sometimes sometimes his concerns are more. You know worth merit than others. Do you have any concerns that someone else can come in from the outside a but buzz light year to your woody I look. I'm like fully expecting it because that's just what happens right so I think it'd be really nice. Actually if somebody else wanted to like do a lot of math and then I'll just you know I'm like I already had an investment banker. I did some other stuff rate so I'll just go find something I don't know. Oh I guess it's good it's a compliment rate. It's good thing to have. I'M NOT GONNA get worked up. I well actually want more people to come. Do you do a lot of things. You're a renaissance woman. I will I say this to what I just looked over your press. Release when you were hired by the guy never embarrassing. Everybody's got a press release. Actually I was hired as a three day a week. Ten ten percent documents be clear. Let's be clear. I you know your big time if they tell you when things are renewed. That ain't nobody tell you when I'm renewed. That's when you know you really. That's that's a colleen wolf by the way. I have not said that on the show. Congratulations for Colleen S got. I'm sure in the millions and she deserves every Celso also better. She is a star and we love you colleen anyway so when you were hired. It says here that you had completed this is four years ago twenty marathons and twenty different states states. Yep almost halfway to her goal completing a marathon in each state where we at and based on your number. I'll let you know if you're doing well or poorly in the last four years twenty-three twenty three now. Oh Fall by base. I know I know base. I met then I don't even know we're on the opposite sides of spectrum just you you know as good as yours at math. I am as bad on the opposite direction. So bad best part about math is you could say it and for the most part almost no one will know so you true of this room set you can say like who cares right like it's good advice you know I won't. I'M NOT GONNA call you out. We've become friends now. Maybe before having me on the pot I would've called you up but now uh-huh your Matt's perfect so the. Yeah so you're twenty three minutes that's good you're also I've learned You know everybody you're one of those people to the point where it becomes market negative. I think because she can't say anything bad about anybody because she's quote unquote friends with everybody. I'm not really friends like I don't know them. That doesn't mean I'm friends with Joanne with your comments on. Yeah well I don't have a common. I mean I feel that you you you know. That's a good way to operate. I don't know almost more than four percent of the people in the building so coming from a very different place. I've I have lots of questions but we'll get through the intro. Let's get through. Let's dig through the rest of the bullet points we are by. We are a long intro around the NFL. Yes we're kind kind of an insular group on the podcast and I think good job by again by badgering. Greg and I almost to the point physicality to get on. The show is on Mike Mike too so like other people are listening to. I looked like found my camera perfectly. Did you watch the replay. 'cause I like what I nailed that right look right down the lens and like nailed it. 'cause we hear from I have specific shadowy league figure that has come to me and said X Y and Z are unhappy appier. They're not getting on the show. That's the thing that's happening in this building while it depends who x Y and Z are. But yes I like it the figure name X Y and Z. Yes wow sometimes they do sometimes they don't. I mean I just went to Steve Wise. It's been a few months down buddy we'll bring you back. Let's be honest I all I wanted. I went directly to. I didn't go through any shadow and figures I went right. I went right to you guys. That's advice you can give Daniel Jeremiah aalto. Dj or the introduction process. Mark is over. I just I you know I hear a lot. I hear a lot of times about your your. It's I imagine you up in your apartment wherever you live with some sort of gigantic computerized motherboard. Where you're running? Through all these facts and figures like I grew up playing in like straddle matic which to me tied at a very early age onset of football. Well it is. I feel like I mean the presence of a fellow nerd potentially some degree which I appreciate and I just wonder like. Are you spending all day long like just hitting this motherboard up for these facts and figures I just WanNa see what it looks like visually or is it just a lap. What is your program that you're running these games on when you predictions it's called the you call it the model and there's actually like I don't know if it's a robot or if it's some I'm sort of wall-sized I don't know he's got is I feel I need to answer? I think a lot of people would in their own mind would wonder what it looks. I I WANNA know too. Okay so you imagine like like I can take a picture of it but there's several screens so I have a multiple monitors will and I run different things on each one. So imagine taking your game pass feeding in all of the all of the coaches film because you have to see all the players and then it draws like circles and lines and squares like. It's you know how the The yellow line that shows you where the first down is. It's kind of the same ideas. That's it's computer. Vision that the the thing that makes me special as only thing you invented this well I wrote my own. Covert computer. Computer Vision allows you to create the lines. I just say what do I want to measure. So that's that's that's part of what I do and then it's taking all those things and like looking for trends ends and d'appel gainers if you will keep it in reference most so remarks realm I live in that realm so it's my realm too so it's but it's like what is hilarious hilarity. What are similarities? So is this defense operating like the eighty five bears right like we saw a lot of comparisons this week between Patriots current events and eighty five bears. So is that true. Yes yes or no. Did they operate against with a lot of pressure or is it more the coverage from the back and like how how defense is effective is different right like it either nets that's in points or it doesn't but how it operates can be different so you can't really compare you know like like we talk about homerun hitters in baseball right like if you WANNA talk about how Barry Bonds you so him. He's not a good one right. But you can use these like sluggers with a lot of power or you can use it kind of single and double hitters right so you can't say yes both get you know have high on base percentages or things like that but you you wanna see how they're doing it. Are they doing with power or are they doing it with you. Know more efficiency. So and that's what you look for in football what are the dominant d'appel gainers so whereas I do WANNA picture auto picture. So what about how. How is the Fed into what the model is to then predict like game scores? Easy you know how you like. Open Up Microsoft Excel so like excel. Looks like Whoa. Oh you do rose right okay. Well if you'd like to it's on your computer I pretty sure columns and rows and basically. That's that's a that's a program that's a computer program so I've written a program for my stuff that takes in a lot of different inputs and it doesn't look like excel but it's it operates like excel. I ask it to do some stuff. And it gives me a result. Kinda like excel does if you're GONNA use it to create a spreadsheet for like your household income right like is like what you're doing around the house so I created the software that pulled in all these different data components and makes it so that I can visualize it so that I can use it to predict different things and by the way there are more than one model. There's multiple models and they're all named after like like old school rappers. Greg likes rap. Well do you like grab sure. Okay I feel like he's lying to me right now no music I arrived on like being pigeonholed into just. Did you know that Greg doesn't like right. It's not ironic is very out in the. Ot she she makes a lot like noise about. Oh I don't I don't think you guys like we haven't been on the podcast. She's never listened to the podcast that is completely untrue that is IBM building multiple high-octane model. So either I wanted into. I put on my headphones and I listened to some of my favorite podcasts of which included so one of the rattlers. Okay so I'm I like like I'm a tribe called quest kind of girl I every time like every once in a while. I'll get mad at one silicone name something like a little bit like like easy. Sometimes you love him. Sometimes you hate him. It's like obviously my favorite all time. Christopher Wallace which obviously is notorious B I g you got to his mother you gotta to go with it so you got so. Those are three of my favorites like the one that I referenced. Every week on our show is Christopher Wallace motherboard. Oh I get it okay so today the Games. Let's let's let's just in terms your model and the two thousand nineteen season. 'cause we talk about this a lot on the power rankings. Show some teams. Don't whether there where the record is where the narrative connected to them doesn't always jive with where the model has them. What does it team that all season remains high up when you're talking about the best teams in the league that perhaps perhaps been bouncing up and down in the standings or in the view of the general public? So you know how like you always WANNA buy blue chip stocks like you're GonNa take an apple stock. Maybe there's a down day or whatever but like you're gonNA take that blue chip stock to me like the Kansas City chiefs although they've had some down moments the chiefs and the Patriots. Are those two blue chip stocks. There your Amazon your apple that they're going to remain high even if there's some dips in temporary kind of like day trading temporary dips. Continue this okay. So so the blue chip teams pats the chiefs even though they've lost games this year and a lot of games at home and a big part of your model. Christopher Wallace model model is the importance of getting a bye week in the playoffs. When you're talking about super bowl probability cause remember like if you think about it if you if you kind of add together so let's say tonight so for the for the Thursday night game right like you? Let's say there's like a fifty six like the winner is fifty six win. Fifty six percent of the simulations. So the loser. What's the math at their forty four? Perfect it's your backup. If you go down this is your back on this stuff like you're in the cloud now. Let's go put you in the cloud hands the cloud you'll get my head to bigger and then you add to me another one. No don't seventy two it so then you add together. All the remaining like each game has those probabilities so you add together. Those remaining wants to get the win total. So if you think about it if you're win totals are out of if like fifty six then becomes is one if you win or zero if you lose but if you don't have that role of the dice in the playoffs then your number becomes like you have six games to play out of instead of seven games to play it out of so no matter what you're going to be better off with the by like you know even if it's that's why it's just always more improbable. Even if the better team that you think is better is not seated as highly conversely adversely and using that you know Kinda parlance the blue chip stock. What's the opposite of that? I don't know that either. There's like like like you had a blue chip stocks right now. Now who's little overvalued OU C. That's that's a good way to over value. Yeah so there is no sure stuck. I think you're probably looking at. I mean to be honest with you. We'll see we'll see here but I'm curious what happens between San Francisco in Green Bay game. One of those seems is to be a bit. I'm GONNA say maybe illegal trading a little higher than maybe they should. I'm not saying their potential is really. I think the I think the loser of this one was maybe a little over is has maybe now looking back would be over-valued rate like you could argue. You could argue either Way San Francisco you think about their defense and then there we have a lot of questions on their offense offense but then you've got Green Bay and the what's going on with their defense. Their offense Aaron Rodgers always seems to give them a chance so they could be a bit overvalued in terms of like Super Bowl potential the question on on these models. They obviously do so many things. I thought they were mostly numbers you telling me. These models watching analyzed game film every every single game. Well I I mean. I won't be needed on this. PODCAST I watch it too right like the the point is is you WANNA have. I WANNA create an unbiased way like I watched every every single game but I'm biased. Just like your buys it. We're all biased. We no matter what you can't buy your human being right. Some people are more biased than others. Like if you if you ask. I used to ask Marshall Faulk for help on certain things with running backs of picking up blitz and Marshall has accused bias on running back. He can't help it. 'cause that's Marshall Faulk like that's what he did that's his area of expertise so you have to learn how to take what Marshall told me and make that something that helps right as opposed to something that like makes me more more bias so when you measure things and you measure actual distances from stuff then you can say hey Aaron. Donald is still getting within five feet of a quarterback and by the way we came up with that. Because when I was talking to coaches it's like most quarterbacks are about six feet tall so their wings bans about six feet so fives into inside of that. Your visions one hundred thirty five degrees most people so as long. It's like if your heads turning it but a defender's face probably a good way to approximate pressure. So that's just to be more specific than like they got through the O.. Line okay like does that that they really pre like did that have an effect. I don't know so trying to like make things so it's formulaic in a way. Where like if I just handed you the recipe? You could cook the cookies too. You could bake the cookies. I'm starting to think none of us are needed on this podcast. Have you seen these. Robots that are that are trained for war. Now I mean this is all happening. It's GonNa be easy smallest Wallace talking to the better. You the better your inputs. Your output like coming up with that formula. You have to ask people who know so that you can come and then by the way you gotta keep making it better because the game evolves and the game changer like everything changes so the the point is to just do it kind of quickly so you can do these. What if scenarios were make decision trees but based on really smart minds so like that? You're actually more valuable. Because then you become the person who informs what they're robots looking for the robot can just look through way more years of data faster then you because they don't have to especially I mean you didn't have to go there but yeah it's the old the old. Tom Brady Scouting report thing too. I'm GonNa Lean on the one thing they couldn't measure was right here. You must have teams reaching out trying to pull you away from NFL network and into their. They're building as a singular employees. Yep that's how you get paid I want. I want to name someone organizations so the consulted with any teams they do I actively consult with teams. But you know here multiple income streams. Tell us get into that okay. So we got an annuity and then it's a year so you gotta consider what you're GonNa be doing with your tax status. We're in California you gotTa make donations. You'RE GONNA pay a lot attack mart. Smarter the smart so no the what I like to do. The best team look just like everything else. If I'm listening to you and you're listening to me and we can come up with something better together. I I don't know like I know about you. People who do like analytics or they say I don't even know what that word means anymore. But that's not a project like they're just saying they're just seeing things. I see them on twitter all the time in fact many times I have to throw my phone. My phone's always broken. Because I cannot stand looking at because these takes are so crappy like of course. You're going to be better at passing passing the ball. If you have Michael Thomas on your team than if you don't like I saw a whole thing this summer and I don't care if this person listens and gets mad at me but this whole thing on saying I'm alliance Fan. And they were saying that the lions were worse at passing now and because they've been trying to be a run for steam as it turns out. It's a tiny sample size. And you know what it's better it's easier to passive Calvin Johnson your team. Then if he's not like these are ridiculous like these are ridiculous like takes right so instead. It's like when I work with the team Last year I was asked by team to come up with an analysis of three or four but three primary running backs that they think they could afford in this tier. That's not a premier tier running back so backup there. These are the syllabus was the jets. No it was. It was not the jets. I will I'll tell you that but it's it's how do we. How do we value these three things and it was like so I sat down with coach and I said what are you gonNA run? You're going to be different like what what is your strategy. What are the things things you're prioritizing for? And all I did then was organized everything that he said in two categories and then analyze each of the the running backs that they asked me about into those categories and made some cut ups because coaches speaking cups. Put it into Biggie. Smalls and see what happens and that was a different one that Oh yeah I know. It's these names are not sorry no no but but you know what exactly like you know you put it in there with it just gives us a great like this one eight out of ten or here the five clips. That are exactly exactly what you're looking for. Here are the five cups that are not what you're looking for and here the five that I have no idea how to explain what you should probably look at as a coach so it's really helpful to things folks. We gotta let Cynthia go to things. We need to hit real quick one. Be careful with this with the With how much information pump into it it becomes self aware. You've seen the Terminator Terminator Franchise. Oh I know I seven has it scares me what it tells me. Hey I is legit. Just because you're saying the person you know the the thing that could come into the company and replaced Cynthia would be her own creation. That's what I'm saying exactly and that could be problems. She replace you. It could replace you and always always you're saying you're a great cook. Kitchen became information pump into its hardware. Embrace the that's going to happen. You know you just gotTa be better than I told you the formula you'd have to be the one informing what it's looking like. Magic take a last thought last. Thought because we gotta get to our preview show here the model says who wins the Super Bowl right now. The Patriots come on give it. What's the percentage like thirteen right? See that's the thing is people. I saw yesterday thirty on twitter. This was like all right. I'm making hot take alert. It's like this ex athlete. Says the Patriots are done. They are not winning the Super Bowl this year. And I'm saying here for more and I'm thinking well the most optimistic assessment that the Patriots are the favorites in the NFL. phalle would say that. They're not winning the Super Bowl because no team would have a greater than fifty percent chance to win the Super Bowl. Her favorite is that thirteen percent football staff. It's as we like the buttons on our show. Don't do I mean look. It goes right out the Patriots Ravens. What was third safes chiefs? Ob Patriot Ravens chief saints. That was it feels like you should be doing power rankings. But she's more real on on the field. Thanks for having all right. Cynthia Freeland checker out on all different. NFL network programming. And thank you for coming on the show. Thanks for having me Awesome any enemies in the room mark. No Way Kurtz all right. Cynthia freeland all right that Cynthia and the rest of us thought we all did well. And that interview West. But you really stood out to me like what you're really incisive you're an incisive guy. See I thought the opposite that she obviously has a natural rapport with you and Dan from being on shows with her whereas mark and our kind of left the circle. What can I say we've been working together? It's a it's been a lot of fun. People should check out. If you're making it this deep into the Thursday recap show and the interviewer Cynthia urea football ahead Aereo Fan and I think you'll enjoy game view hang nine. Am I'm and midnight eastern time on Saturdays you can dvr and then watch it with your kids anytime until then though West we we should get out of here. That's get okay for or Chris and Dan and mark and Cynthia and the wonderful Erica fantasy behind the glass. We will talk.

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Aaron rodgers is going like this because he's not sure who's gonna be playing on his team tonight. More on that in moments with adam schefter. Dan orlovsky is here. We got keyshawn johnson. Here i mentioned at of he's there and marcus spheres as well so let's get right to it guys thursday night football between the packers and niners and san brand will take place as scheduled on wednesday though the niners closer practice facility following a positive test from wideout kendrick born later place additional players on the reserve covid nineteen list after the team conducted. Its contact tracing so atom. The game is on but a lot of players out on both sides. What more can you tell us about this game in. Just a few hours. Now know napa you can get twenty percents off with a four ninety nine napa toolbag yep twenty percent off power tools twenty percent off wipers twenty percents off oil and more. It's a whole bag of tricks. 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The forty niners essentially are missing wide receivers and so while this is a rematch of the nfc championship game from last year. It'll look very different than the nfc championship game last year. Every offensive player. Who touched the football in that game for san francisco will not play tonight and the forty niners will have to rely on an entirely different set of players to try to get the job done against green bay. It's just crazy when you think about that. Adam schefter with us all show long and dan. It's certainly tough to play a game following all of this news but when you think about these missing pieces for the forty niners which player especially on the offense hurts them the most against the packers defense. Well certainly i you know like they don't have really a receiver. Trent taylor maybe ricky james that's been part of a past game for them in san francisco. Ballistic kyle shanahan is the best coach in the nfl when it comes to adjusting figuring out how to get their run game. You know what. I got to get the ball to the unblock defender in our back or call us check. You gotta make place. And then he'll also figure out ways where they got four blocks and started trying to make six blocks so cows. The best in the nfl doing it. He'll he'll figure out a way so key we get it from the game planning sandpoint. That kyle shanahan is one of the best. But when you really don't have many pieces does that concern you about how he'll be able to plan in this game. It really does and it just speaks to. Dan is saying yeah. When you the best game plan and doesn't matter who you have. I mean i hate to bring the new york jets up but when you start talking about a genius of an offense a coach adam gates can't compare him to call shannon. It's not even close you. Look at nick mullins. They won in one with him at the helm. He's been this way all year long. They haven't had anything to work with and they're still at a point where they've won four games in. They're still in the hunt for a playoff spot to spot night. Despite not having a full roster of talent that they started the season with. Hey it's your homie. Sorry it's your home. I know you don't like it when i call myself your home so i have some favors to ask you. Could you get rid of a few chairs in the living room. My floorboards are tired. Another easy thing which save money if you bundle your home and car insurance with geico on moore thing. I know you love lavender. Scented candles but could try to. He should vanilla. I think it would fit my better. Geico for bundling made easy go to geico dot com today. The great thing about facts. They're proven like the fact that crude oil contains impurities or their base oil made from natural gas is ninety nine point five percent free of impurities and the fact that pennzoil is the first synthetic motor oil made from natural gas not crude oil. It gives you unbeatable engine protection. The proof is in the pennzoil based on sequence for a test using sap w thirty available at pep boys guys. That's that's amazing. I and last time we saw these two teams play and i know it's a personnel standpoint. Bahrain most became a superstar in kyle. Shanahan this play call in and all of those things that dan just illustrated at what key said is vital. Because listen we just showed you all the receivers that would be missing for the forty niners. They are going to go back to their blueprint. And i want everybody to understand this to the most concerning position loss for me is not only kittle but trent williams because this game is predicated on san francisco forty nine of being able to get big people own backers as as they ingest show. Kyle shanahan be fine. He's going to try to control this clock. He understands that he doesn't want to put this defense in a situation where aaron rodgers is able to get two or three possessions. That has to be the plane. You're not going to go for soda. Told going downfield nick. Muller's have to make a few throws jimmy. Garoppolo last year in the nfc championship made eight. If they can't get the run game going it'll be over quick if they can. They'll have a chance win this game and only asking their quarterback make a few plays. And that's that's reality with the san francisco forty niners. That's who they want to be. We get a namur where people spreading the ball. All over the deel and we've talked about a lot of things creativity wise in the passing game as far as the run game. That's where san francisco really makes you pay and green bay defendant. That will right now. That could happen tonight as well as maybe some pre snap motion action with shannahan. He's been masterminded that disguising with the niners often in fact they've used pre snap motion seventy percent of their place in the started last season. That's the highest in the nfl. Dan really really fast saying they're number one in the nfl. Okay there we go. I thought you wanted to get back in but for that. Let's bring in. Adam schefter once more and ad in the forty niners. Not the only team facing cove realities. Today take us through some of the other top stories. And it's going around the league right now laura. Today we saw the houston. Texans shook their facility with the texans officially placing dylan cole. Jacob martin and whitney mercilus three linebackers on the reserve covid list of bear shut down. The colts had a staffer test positive chiefs at a member of their athletic training staff test positive and so there are a lot of issues going on around the league not just in those cities but other teams as well the detroit lions right now. Have matthew stafford on the reserve list. He obviously came into contact with a non team member who has covered if he tests negative for five straight days. He'll be eligible to be activated for sunday's game against the minnesota vikings and as for the last cast test case of the we came. We've got a situation where he's unreserved cove list. He's out of sunday's game against the pittsburgh steelers. The dallas cowboys are looking at cooper rush garrett gilbert and trying to make a determination about which quarterback day will start on sunday against the pittsburgh steelers inning. Mvp lamar jackson had a rough outing last week against the steelers posted a career. High four turnovers in that loss and won't get any easier for the mars. The ravens prepare for sunday's meeting with the colts. They have one of the most stingy defense in the league and stand up perfect three zero at home. This season in in these defense has been on the rise in twenty twenty linebacker darius. Leonard's impact cannot be overstated. Leonard miss weeks five and six. The gordon injury. The colts allowed twenty nine and a half points on average in his absence. Call that job security. The colds d also has allowed a qbr fifty one points higher than the five games. Leonard is played mention a less effective pass rush to go with it. Some terriers leonard. Is the man on that deepens. Marcus how would you show us. Just how versatile. Leonard is for the colts for this team very few players in this why everybody is so high on this man and his future because he impacts the game in a number of ways and a lot of guys. Just don't have that ability to be a part of rush and cover at a high level. He is affecting these plays even if he's not an owner tackle or not ian on a second and he had a sack forced fumble on that. Same wraparound look against the detroit. Lions but when we just showed the numbers about the effectiveness of their as linear. How better. how much better does defense is now. They have lamar jackson. They feel like they have a guy where they can create enough confusion and athletic enough to get him on the ground if he gets into these tight windows and tries to take off and run. It'll be interesting to see how they play him. You cannot go in game plan. For lamar jackson like stafford. I'm not saying that by any means but they do have a guy that changes the face of his defense when he's at that middle linebacker spot. So i'm interested to see how they use areas landed in this game. Yeah and you mentioned that. The colts defense success in the middle of the field. That's where lamar really excels. So that's a specific match up to watching this when to great tape marcus. Let's get to a ton of lower. We got more on him fresh off winning his first. Nfl start last week to facing off against the cardinals wreaked havoc on russell wilson and the seahawks last time out before the bye week cuyler murray and too by the way finished one and two in the two thousand eighteen heisman trophy voting. Here's murray's speaking about how his second career start win for him. Take a listen. Washington plans to different things. Second game for me playing the ravens. You know for me. Momma tell you going now. Was that the first. The first week was felt bad from a personal standpoint. No i had no choice but to go off to like i had to do more and be better the next week. I don't really know his stats from last week but he's got a taste of. I got a lot to work on. He knows what he felt week. One He can get better too so i'm sure he's you know i'm sure he's feeling good. So the thing about to is first official. Nfl start. dan was a really didn't have to do much. The defense was so good. What are you expecting out of him week to actually the things that they did ask him to do. He did really well. I mean there was some stuff on tape that you go. That look like to at alabama the way that he saw pre and post nap recognition like those subtleties the nuance that we sought alabama showed up. No they didn't ask him to do a ton of he didn't need to. But it was really cool really encouraging to see all right the times that he did have to go operate as a quarterback or go play a quarterback and kind of really have a great kind of preapproval step pre and post nap process. He was outstanding. So he'll he'll be challenged by the defense in arizona because they're really good on breaking on the football. Timing's got to be his best friend but he was really good in week. One is certainly going to be a challenge. It's when you get spotted. Twenty eight points essentially by the rams right. I don't have to do a whole lot. You pass for less than one hundred yards in a smart touchdown in still win football game because in practice you know dan you don't play from behind. Everything is easy but clearly. They seen he did enough to take the starting job and wanted to start job. But now what if you gotta play for behind. That's what i want to see. Can you play from high on the other side. What if you're down. Twenty eight to seven. How will you perform. We'll all of a sudden it'd be too big for you. What will you methodically. Lead your team down the field on scoring drives and bring them back. That'll be the key. Because as you know arizona scores in bunches. I realize it was college. So it's not a direct comparison by any means but he really didn't play from behind that much alabama either. Lsu game sure when he got hurt and he played great. I mean that's in that second half where he got hot wings. When did he come from behind in college. Collagen win every was not that often win that they didn't win that. Lsu game all right. Let's get markets back in here. Let's take it to the other side of the ball for miami. We were all impressed with what we saw from the dolphins against your golf. What do you think they'll do. Hope for them against hillary. Look the hardest thing. Ales for defenses chain philosophy based on personnel. The good was try to force the issue and we saw what brand florez was able to do to the la rams and jared goff. He just went zero pressure and decided. Look this guy up. I don't think he can beat us from the pocket and exactly what happened. He turned the football over. They create a sack bombos and there was some little nuance things that he's done. It defensively that. A lot of young quarterbacks really don't see quite often weekend and week out. Now here's the caveat. He understands who calorie breaking out of pressure and then how bad he can hurt you down the field. They still have. The begins. Still have christian kirk who use thrown a lot of long balls to fitzgerald as good at being a hot route reader as anybody in the nfl because he's been doing it so long so when you think about the plan going into this game you have to change it up. We saw what arizona did russell wilson understanding how he needed to change coverages. How he needed to poor defensive lineman out linebackers for underneath to create just a little bit confused. And i expect to see that from brian floor is and then funnel instead of sin and everybody wants to funnel collar murray and making beat him from the center of the pocket. All brian flores has to do learn remember what he learned in new england. What to do the number one thing is take away the number one guy you take away. The andre is now you force van. Kyla mary to go to other spots. Yes larry fitzgerald is still one of the top young atop older receivers in the league on hot rods not young anymore but on certain things. Chris and kurt certainly can take the top off of it. But if you take deondraye hopkins away and your horse collar murray to do those things you gotta watch out for his feet much like big boy said just now he'll pull it down run boy or the only two things that i would say with that key because you're right but arizona and their tempo. So how quickly can the defense communicate. And then the different places that they do move deandre hopkins around that will challenge that defense right so when you play with temple and you move your guys around. Everyone on defense has got to communicate. That can leave some people wide open. So that'll be the challenge. That cat and mouse game. We see football at the time. Easier said than done to take the andre hopkins away as you. Well know how about a little. Tv t action. It is thursday in honor of radiant breeze face not for the second time this season on sunday thinking way back at the thing about that photo though is that they actually both still look the same so let it be less both of them got the lettuce all right anyways. Drew brees four and two in his career. Tom brady including the win earlier. This year. breeds in just one of thirteen. Qb's face brady at least six times. He's the only one of that group with a winning record so brings been pressured at the lowest rate in the nfl. this season. He struggled though when opposing defenses have managed to get to him. He ranks among the worst in qbr and completion. Rate in the nfl when under duress also is overthrown underthrown. His receiver forty five percent of those times. Those plays so key with the addition of abe. There's a lot of these great weapons on this offense for four. tom brady. But what is the achilles heel for this game for the same. Glad you said this game. I wanted you to make sure this this game in not the season. I think you start with the quarterback. You have to start with the quarterback because if anything you you cut the head off the quarterback you go get him and cameron jordan in marcus browning if you can get marcus davenport to start to come play. Come to the party. That's how you get you get quarterbacks off their mark. Dan apply pressure. You talk about the weapons if you decide. Okay i'm gonna take mike evans out. You've left him with. How many more weapons to go to take. Well i could go to. Mike evans gronkowski for knit. So what you do. Is you go and get the quarterback if you look at any teams that ever beat tom brady. It's always getting after him. Applying pressure to him getting him off his mark not allowing him to step up in the pocket. You push the pressure in his lap and he'll fold let me just really quickly reiterate. So keyshawn johnson is saying that the achilles heel for the bucks in this game janey not the season okay has strongly disagree with that just so we're clear. Listen like if you watch the saints defense. There's two things that stand out that you can attack one middle field. They really struggle covering the tight ends especially with their linebackers. And they're always going to give you the chance to take a deep ball. Shot downfield somehow. There's always a blown coverage somewhere and whatnot. And then two things that tampa bay has done. Well offensive this year is worked in middle of field. Tom is exponentially better working the slot receiver so to speak and they've decided to start taking more shots downfield so listen. I don't. i don't necessarily see that. This is going to be the weakness of this football team but the question is accused. He'll if you get after tom brady. Who's he gonna throw the ball to. Yeah i mean. I guess if you get after any quarterback ever surely but like you take away some of his other weapons. Let's just sit. You take mike evans away you leave. Tom brady standing tall the pocket. He'll kill q k. I l. t. They'll hit you the only thing that i would say he's like i know. That sounds great is so hard chicago do well because chicago can rush with four. Chicago's got the best foremen. Russian covers new orleans doesn't have that but wherever wherever the pressure comes from right like if you can do that awesome. I just don't think the saints can do that. Picking the books to me. Well we'll find out tomorrow or the next day. Either way on the flip side. You're not on the show tomorrow on the flip side of this game the saints have been without michael thomas atom. What's his status looking. For this game. Laura was limited practice today with that nagging ankle. Injury hamstring injury. But sean payton. The saints coach was talking about both emmanuel sanders. Who's been out due to the virus. End michael thomas and said he was excited to have both them back indicating that thomas looks like he is on track to play for the second time. This season on sunday night against the tampa. Bay buccaneers also should add. The drew brees was throwing off to the side was limited their practice. But i think the sense in the saints organization is one of optimism and that is tough as drew. Brees as he'll be out there on sunday night against tom brady and the tampa bay buccaneers. I don't know anything at him i have. I have no idea. But i know one thing getting him back on the field certainly is going to be a big boost. Tampa bay lost to new orleans. The first game of the year mike. He didn't do much. There's no question about it but you can't tell me that drew brees is not missing his favorite target. He threw the ball to one hundred and forty nine times last year. So you're going to tell me that. They don't miss him despite winning games. I mean he's going to be a big boost for them. Regardless of the at i think having him on the field changes a lot with that offense for those of you. Who don't know that would be keys. Mike it's okay marcus. I like when you do that. Marcus the saints win this game. Is it completely change. The narrative around this division does ails. First of all. They'll be up to tampa after week. One and then you look at the saints. Play like watching their games actually going back and reevaluating. The saints have played everybody tight. I think they've been in overtime twice. It had been really any impressive wins when it comes to what we have grown accustomed to the new orleans saints during the people the offensive firepower. Obviously without michael. Thomas hasn't been the same. We get become enamored with how good alvin kamara has been in these games. And he's really been the catalyst alone. Jared cook and a few plays from taqwa smith but i also want to give them credit because most of the time when you lose a guy like michael thomas anime will sanders to be comment piece. You don't end up with record at five into in the science have played some real real teams up until this point but now you get tampa who understands themselves a lot better than we one is will new orleans saints. They know if you look on paper. Tampa has the most talent in this game. If you look at the games when tampa has been dominant in new orleans has been dominant tampa. Looks like the better football team. So i think this is a boost. Not only how the saints feel about themselves but then we have to come over here next week and have a different conversation about are back in the conversation for being a super bowl contender. Because i think if you ask anybody right now even even in despite of a five and two record and win some games closely and beaten chicago. Do you think the saints can make a deep playoff run and go to the super bowl. I think that that answer would be an overwhelming. No they this win against tampa and plan that if tampa is planned that their level in new orleans plays at the elite level and they win this game that we got reshape. How we talk about the new orleans saints going forward. Yeah listen if they beat a team that we're talking about with the buccaneers of being one of the best teams in in the nfl. Dan i don't know why you're shaking your game. Tim basically win this game. Okay all right way tom. We'll play the tape back in. He guys quiet wage on the side like but we. Yeah well. we don't do that on the show. Anyway what are you talking about. All right drew brees has been clutching sometimes too which is important as well. Let's bring adam schefter back in here because we got new on. Nfl live to new surrounding the chiefs. What do you got adam. We'll laura's field. Yates just reported the chief star. Defensive tackle chris. Jones has landed on the covid nineteen list today. The reserve covid nineteen list that means that in all probability the chiefs are gonna be without chris jones when they play sunday against carolina panthers generating a lot of pass rush for that team. The teams had a member of its training staff today. Come down with the virus. So obviously there's some concerns within the chiefs organization right now about players and officials and administrators and the virus. What do you think i mean. Obviously it's a big loss for that football team their best defensive player and you're going against the team that gets really creative with their run game and carolina's offense as efficient so this is a dangerous game for city. Just be careful. You know losing. Chris jones like this and playing a team. That's gonna play you in a very specific way. It's interesting seahawks game. And the seahawks defense. They're in the right direction. Could get some more help against the bills by the way safety. Jamal adams expected to return after missing. Four-game groin injury and non cove nineteen illness. While defensive end carlos dunlap make seahawks debut after being traded from the bengals. And so we. We will expect this defense. You have even more strength but marcus. Seattle did have success. Even without those guys against san francisco was that an anomaly. More about the forty niners injuries or was it more about seattle finding something i think it was more about. Seattle founders ales and they got bobby wagner involved in their bliss packages. We're seeing a trend in the league. Now where people using these athletic linebackers to create protection problems for offensive lines upfront. And then you see the turnover start to happen. But i mean it really goes to keys point and also what dan talked about key is mentioned about brady pressure. It affects everything you do. Not just the past game. Like when i plan land in the nfl. When you can get pressure when you can create a new line of scrimmage it kills the timing of what offenses are trying to do it creates havoc and then once that happens a few times in the game your quarterback his clock speeds up. And that's what you're trying to do. And i thinking or junior the defense coordinator for the dogs realized that about jimmy garoppolo. He saw as at certain points when he was bringing extra. Extra guys an extra pressure that the operation for the forty nine was needing to speed up. And that's really how you can defend cow shanahan any other way if you sitting back and waiting and trying to figure out what are they doing. The you have a problem. So i'm saying all that to say seattle decided we are going to force the issue now. We're not going to sit back. And they were. If you guys remember we showed a few clips which amore adams against the atlanta falcons. That's what they started the season doing and we all talked about look at the mission. That jamal adams has added to this defense. What a figure that. Out with. Bobby wagner last week and now you get them all back then when you need to rush for you carlos dunlap so this defense may be turning a corner. I don't. I think it was true about where they're headed as opposed to just one anomaly. But we'll see. What athletic quarterback in josh allen. If they still have that same energy going after the quarterback yeah and dan. You've liked josh allen and time this season brain debut will be scheming things up for the bills. What do you think he's going have to do. Alan against this better. Seattle defense started laura on monday. The hardest thing in key markets. You guys know. The hardest thing in the nfl to handle is success. You go back to last sunday afternoon. And they're playing at home against the team that's owned their division for twenty years and you figure out a way to win that football game right. That's this emotional. Hi are you the team. That finally put the nail in the coffin. The patriots monday. You better show up and get ready for work because you've got another game the next week. So i really paying attention to the josh allen in his growth maturity like show me. You're the leader. That i think you are that you can kind of reset your mindset. Free yourself andrew. Football team guys. What we did last weekend is great. that's cool. We got twenty four hours to celebrated awesome. We got another big game coming because if we think if we're the buffalo bills and we think that we are legit playoff contender that we can actually make some noise. We gotta get this game. Last game doesn't matter anymore. We gotta go and show the world that we're good enough to go be a team. That is it legit super bowl contender because the patriots aren't we knew that the seattle seahawks are so josh allen. Show me that you're mature enough to play good football this week to play winning football against the seahawks followed down with the same thing. I think when you look at the buffalo bills they beat new england. They know new england divisional opponent much like san francisco and seattle. So they kind of know each other they of have each other's number to a degree seattle's coming all the way across the country to play buffalo josh allen in that offense as well as the defense and everybody in the building. This is a statement game for you. Look at the first four games of the season for josh allen. He was on the dan wagon. He was the mvp then. You look it since week five. That thing is kind of tailed off to a disgruntled tires. Pop his tired laying. The i'm just saying when you look at it he had seventy four percent. Completion percentage two week four since week. Five sixty three drops. He's got to get back up there to get these guys believing in him as a quarterback that he was the first half of the season. Yeah i had some really good josh allen sets there but he stole all of them key and i'll let you have him from here on out keys the staff guy here on the show the nfc championship. That was before the injury bug caught up to the niners. There were seven niners players. Who had offense of touch in that game with most of course leading the way behind a historic two hundred twenty yard rushing performance. None of those seven players will take the field in tonight's game. That's just crazy. San fran has a league-high eighty point eight million dollars in cap money on the irs. Welcome into the domino's pre-game headquarters adam schefter. We know the forty niners of lost a lot of pieces but the packers. Maybe getting some back tonight. Give us the latest on some injuries with the packers starting with some news. Updates here laura. Aaron jones is expected to be active tonight. Barring any pre-game setbacks now the packers want to be careful with him. So i don't know that he's going to have the full workload but going into pre game warm ups. They believe he's going to play tonight. So aaron jones is likely to be active. If there are no setbacks in pregame warmups they did not activate however wide receiver allen lazard. So he's out tonight and will not be playing this evening. The forty niners on the other hand activated titan jordan reed fire. He'll be active tonight. They did place jimmy. Garoppolo and george kittle officially on i r as well and just a couple of notes. It's all coming right now. The packers also activated dexter williams and the forty niners activated their wide receiver. Kevin white the former first round draft pick from the chicago bears so both teams calling on reinforcements. Only adam schefter just has all these injury notes. This coming into his head off the cuff. Alright marcus the packers. Coming up. Terrible loss to minnesota. You heard the news. They're about some players that they may get back in some that we won't see they know this forty niners teams have been hit with injuries. Covert everything but green bay. Trying to play themselves back into the convoy contender. What do they need to prove tonight. Can they stopped. Damn run hills bottomland. Listen this is not. There's nothing wrong with the green bay packers outside of the fact that their defense right now is abysmal at stopping the run. Not all like we've we've looked at their linebackers but they are letting people get age out leverage them and that's what's holding team bag and held them back last year like we talked about earlier with this game so they have to determine because they know the san francisco forty niners run the football. They don't have a choice but to run the football. So i want to see if green bay is going to respond defensively. It's time to start separating yourself as far as a team that can go the long way and green bay has the determined that and that started tonight dan. Listen i think this is a huge game for in raj against this packers or the san francisco forty niners defense like if you look at the san francisco forty niners defense and the stolid defense they play. It's it's predominantly zone coverage right. This covered three zone. That aaron rodgers this year has been outstanding man coverage. He's got eighteen touchdowns against man coverage to one interception when he plays zone. He's got two touchdowns if you go back to watch these games last year through six quarters. Six quarters of playing the san francisco forty niners defense. He was one touchdown. Two interceptions never take four yards and attempt like this is a really interesting game to watch. How well they play against zone. He's not gonna have bachtiar. He's big time left. Tackle will see what aaron jones does. Maybe tyler ervin gets a little bit in their run game. But i wanna see erin play really really well without lazard with devante zone coverage. I know that they don't have both on defense almond thomas and people correct but the fact that the scheme. The style of the defense is going to challenge in rogers on interested to see how that happens or how that plays out in tonight's game. Dan challenge mitt not worried about him. One bit not one bit at all. Davante adams fully hilty again lazard snotty and. Obviously they get aaron jones back. But you gotta think going back into levi stadium. Knowing what happened there in the nfc championship game certainly will play. Plan the minds of aaron rodgers and everybody else on the team that they gotta take care of business if they wanna if they wanna be talked about in late january. It's gotta start tonight. listen. I'm not sitting here like but we have two games last year when these two teams with the coaching staffs played against each other. I know that there's some injuries but it's still showed up that this offense for green bay was really inefficient against this defense. Yeah but the personnel is a big part of being efficient dan. I agree but just look at this season as well. Aaron with again the difference of his performance against man. and it's the offense. It's not just rogers man coverage eat up they absolutely gut it zone there. Okay there okay. And so you're looking at an offense. That is the average against his own defense. They're planning it's zone. Difference in san francisco. I understand the personnel are different but there are still some really good players and san francisco. So i'm interested to know all right. Go ahead go all right. So keep telling read about aaron rodgers at all. Dan is a little bit either. We're all in the packers tonight. So every single one of us picked the packers with similar scores. Let's get to one more thing before we go. We begin with adam schefter. I think the nfl's plan tonight. Lower is a window into what the league is thinking in regard to all these games with kobe people have been calling on league to add an eighteen week pushback games. The league marches on the show goes on and the fact that so many players are at tonight's game and the game is still being played. Shows you the league will finish this season and is determined to do that tennessee. Titans they missed their left. Aker taylor the one if you watch that game two weeks ago and then last weekend cincinnati. They miss their all pro and so tyson. Brian is gonna have to step up and play a little bit better football they gotta figure out a way to get their offense back on track without their left tackle. This isn't good news. Why tremendous amount of respect. But this blair. Jj said. i don't want to be a part of a rebuild. I want to win now. And that's expectation that he has based on how he plays and getting your long term quarterback sound. I can't wait to see what the houston texas do. Moving forward next man. Up for the miami dolphins myles gaskin was put on. I r. i thought that he would. He would have had when. I looked at the schedule. I figured he would have a big game to help them out. And take some pressure off a tour against arizona. Somebody has to step up to do that now. Him on ir. We'll see how that goes and we can't wait to see what happens tonight in this packers niners game. I think it's going to be a really interesting game. Guys anybody else with me. They're just raise your hand if you are. Are you about to throw some trash okay. That's i don't know what's happening anyway. We'll see you tomorrow on. Nfl live with me.

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Big Blue preView: Week 4 vs New Orleans Saints

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Big Blue preView: Week 4 vs New Orleans Saints

"Hello, everyone and welcome to the big blue preview. I n damn Zuta. I am joined now by Chris foam. We are both writers at big view and we will be previewing the upcoming game against the New Orleans Saints. Chris, how you doing doing pretty good today, how you doing Dan, I'm doing pretty well giants on the board with a win last week, but now facing the saints who have been one of the league's better teams for a while. Last year, they were one of the best teams in the league this year off to a bit of a slow weird start there there to one really good offense. Again, terrible defense, Cadillac. This, this saints of old, the lead shifts while we just jump into this, what are you looking forward to in this game points and a lot of them, right. Yeah, this this kind of feels like it could be a shoe. Doubt if the giants offense allows it to be. I think that that might be one of the questions. So I think for that west, just get into into the offense side and preview what's going to happen when the giants have the ball. And I think a lot of this is gonna come down to the New Orleans defense which has been just flat out terrible over the first three weeks of the season. We look at this, they are twenty eighth in which again is football outsiders team efficiency metric, their twenty ninth eighty yards allowed per drive and thirty first in points allowed per drive. So they have not been able to stop anyone so far this season. Yeah, and especially through the air, they're giving up what three hundred some yards passing per game through has. It's been really bad. So one of the craziest splits I've seen so they're twenty eight in defensive Devi away. Thirty second against the pass, but their number one against the run and part of that has been no one's really needed to run against them when you can just throw at will against anyone in their secondary of, but their I in Devia way against the run thirty second against the past a. So if the giants need some other way to wake up their passing game, this is probably the defense they're going to want to face out. Definitely. And to me, that's actually a little surprising considering how good Marshon Lattimore and Marcus Williams were last year and they're still not bad players will this season has not been great SO what Amore was rookie last season was incredible, but this season completely not even really like regression to the mean like regression all the way down to like absolutely terrible. So football outsiders measures yards allowed per pass and success rate for Cornerbacks. So there's a sixty. Four Cornerbacks. They consider qualified this season who have reached a couple of different qualifiers of those sixty four Cornerbacks Marshon Lattimore is sixty fourth in yards allowed per pass and sixty. I in success rate. And then Ken Crawley a New Orleans, other corner who has been benched put back in the lineup because they don't really have anyone else. Crawley is sixty third in yards allowed per pass and sixty fourth in success rate. And by those two metrics Crawley was actually better than Lattimore in those two west year. So New Orleans is throwing out two of the worst Cornerbacks in the league by these metrics so far. And that's probably if you're an opposing offense and you have Odal Beckham and sterling shepherd. That's the type of secondary. You're gonna wanna see. Oh yeah. And having your soft more first round, pick be. Worse than a guy who has been benched brought up bench gone through all that not ideal at all. Maybe it's an Ohio State thing. Yeah, maybe they just have rotten sophomore seasons then maybe so in New Orleans. Indeed, the away thirty first against opposing number one receivers, giving up a hundred and four yards per game on average thirty. Second against number two receivers, giving up one hundred forty four yards per game. A lot of that kind of comes from the Calvin Ridley game from Atlanta, but I mean, that's that's not the whole thing. What kind of is surprising is their tenth against other a wide receiver. So wide receiver, three, four and five. But they just put Patrick Robinson who was there slot corner on injured reserve. So even that might not be great going forward now and which good for sterling shepherd when he's in. The slot saquon Barkley if he's up in the slot or could Atlanta more when he's, oh, he's usually outside, but he could wind up having a really nice game if they target them enough, right? So no one thing in we, if we do look at Barclay, let's let's go there because the saints are thirtieth in Devia way against running backs into passing game. And this could maybe be a Barkley breakout game in the passing game if he's used correctly. So I'm going to have a piece up on big blue view maybe by the time you're listening to this maybe right after, but it's how the giants should use saquon Barkley in the way the saints use Alvin Kamara in the passing game. They started doing this a little more against Houston. If you put Barclay outside, you put him in the slot, you throw to him past the line of scrimmage, only twenty six percent of Barclays target so far have come past. Line of scrimmage, and that's not giving him a lot of room to run. If he's making the first defender miss, you're doing that behind the line. If you can make that I defender miss past the line of scrimmage, you're gaining more yards. So this'll be definitely interesting to see if they can mismatch Barclay against them linebackers in this game. That would be excellent to see now the Dallas game where they through to fourteen times and I'm not sure any of them came past the line of scrimmage or at least pass the five yard line. That's got a skew the numbers at least a little bit. Yeah, it does. But until the Houston game, that's kind of how they were using them. It was similar against Jacksonville to you. It was a lot of things behind the line. It was swing passes. It was. It wasn't really concerted efforts to get Barkley the ball in space. It was, oh, no, we have no other options. Let's give the ball to Barkley. So what what I'd like to see in what the giants should be trying to do is scheming more. Openings for Barclay, get him in mismatches, get him in space and not just dumping the ball off to him when he's the last resort. Yeah. Now, part of that growth might be because they're still growing into the offense. Ally might be getting more used to the playbook, more fluent in the playbook because he did not play all that much in the preseason end Barkley played even less. That could be part of it. My questioning would be, why would it take three games to have something that would be so obvious from the second you drafted Barclay to be like, hey, we should get this guy on the outside. We should get him in this slot. That's something Pat Shurmur even talked about when they drafted him. I, it was something we talked about in training camp. It was something we saw in training camp, so it is kind of weird for it to have not actually popped up in a game until week three, but maybe they've figured it out now and maybe we'll see more going forward, which is really how you're gonna. Wanna use Barclay because if you're only using him as a more prototypical running back, who's just going to be catching swing, passes out of the backfield. That's not getting the most out of them. And if you're only going to do that, he's wasn't worth the number two over all pick now the the only way he was worth that pick is if they use him as the playmaker he is let him get in space, get down field. Put that ridiculous athleticism of his to work and really capitalize on those mismatches. They can create with him. Right. That's definitely going to be a key, not just to this game, but I think probably to the rest of the season, if they can get Barkley out in space you, you really want to see them do that. And if they're just gonna, keep giving him balls behind the line of scrimmage, that's it's not gonna help the offense at all, but we stay to the offensive side a wet. One of the reasons. Barclay hasn't been getting a lot of work in space, especially in the running game has been the offensive line. I was a little better against Houston. We have those two changes. Now, John Greco at center Chad Wheeler at right tackle, but they're going against the Saint Steve -fensive line that has one of the most underrated defensive lineman in the league in Cameron Jordan. Cam Jordan is really a fantastic guy to watch this. He is very much in the mold of Claes Campbell and JJ watt about that size, not as toll, not quite as tall as the other two, but still to ninety. He does not move like he's to ninety violent hands, explosive athlete. He already has four sacks, and I believe he got Jek did last week, so he could have more. And he also lines up primarily over the right tackle bag luck chedda Wheeler. But yeah, I think one of the things we've talked about a long time watching the giants is how much they relied on their two main pass rushers in wall. Jason Pierre. Paul in a Libyan Vernon were on the field. Those guys were on the field. They did not come off. There's been an effort now since Dave Gettleman and Pat Shurmur came in, they said they didn't want to have those guys out on the field for so long. But Cam Jordan is one of those guys that is on the field and stays on the field. He is the only defensive lineman that has played at least ninety percent of his team's defensive snaps in each of the past five seasons. And that's just ridiculous concerning how big he is that. That is honestly even more impressive than JP never coming off the field, right? He's he's on the field. He's making an impact on just about every play. He so hard to block. Like we said, he can go from the inside. He's a huge guy that can win from the outside. This is definitely going to be a tough match up for Wheeler and the rest of the offense of line. And what's interesting is is really outside of Hayward. The saints haven't been able to get a lot of pressure there. Twenty sixth in defensive pressure rate per sports info solutions charting from football outsiders, and that's going to be interesting to put against the giants authentic line who is twenty six, which is bad. The the further down you are authentic pressure allowed is not good to their twenty six in off rented pressure rate. So we'll see what gives the resistible force of the movable. Object. Yeah, that's basically what it's going to be and we'll see if the giants can if they'll try to get the ball out quickly again. So against Houston, ally had gotten the ball out at an average of two point, four seconds a, which was the second fastest of the week. It was way faster than the two point, seven seconds. He was averaging in weeks one and two. So if the giants are still going to do that, and maybe there's going to be more openings in that secondary that will bring some bigger plays. We'll see if that's going to be a concerted effort for them getting the ball out quickly against the saints who haven't gotten a lot of pressure or if that was something they really tried to do against the Houston defensive line that they knew was going to get to the quarterback of regardless of what they did. A one, we say, all of the above. They had to have scheme that for Houston because with. What cloudy? Whitney mercilus, DJ rhetoric, Christian Covington. That's not a defensive front. You wanna give. Any amount of time to get your quarterback because they will know we saw that. And yeah, j. watt had two of the fastest sacks in in week three per next gen stats his his strip sacked one where he completely jumped. The snap was third fastest sack of of the season and the giants of actually given up two of the three fastest sacks of the season per next gen stats, which is not a place where you wanna be up at the top. So we'll see if if getting the ball out quickly is something that can stop that. Yeah, I was poking around next gen stats as well. And I noticed that. The Houston rushers on average actually got the closest to rely on their average rush than the Cowboys did. And even the Jaguars did there about half a yard closer on the average rush than the. Cowboys about a tenth of a yard closer than the Jaguars, which is pretty impressive. Considering how much pressure Eli was under in the first two games or I should say scary considering how much pressure he was under in the first two games right yet. It's definitely definitely not a position. Eli wants to be an an probably why getting the ball out so quickly was was something they did a before we jump to the other side of the ball is, is there any other other matchups you want to look at when the giants have the ball? Yeah, I want. I want to see how how they go about using the tight end position or right. So with Evan Ingram, out of red Ellison will probably take over as the starter playing quite a bit of snaps. I, I would imagine maybe we'll see some drill Adams who's a little more of a downfield pass catcher, then he's going to be an inland blocker, so it'll definitely be interesting to see. The rotation there as something is suggested on Twitter and I'm gonna really stand by this if something they should do instead of trying to replace Ingram in the passing game with tight ends all the time. I think we should try to see if they can get Barclay and Wayne Gelman on the field at the same time that decade keep either to backs in the backfield and shotgun or one back in the backfield and both of those guys can win out of the slot and on the outside. So you can have a mismatch there if the saints are going to stay in base personnel while there's two backs. And I think that could really open up some stuff in the passing game in a similar vein, we could also keep an eye out for gear. Dickerson undrafted rookie. We'll call him an h back out of northwestern. He was exciting early in the off season during the offseason spring offseason program. Then he got hurt and miss. Pretty much all of the summer. But he has that it was good blocker northwestern, but he also has the ability to run with the ball and catch the ball said they could use him as kind of that h back sometimes a fullback sometimes tight end role. It'll be interesting to see which way the giants go, whether they're gonna kinda double down on their heavy personnel or they keep trying to to spread it out against the defense where it's been easy to spread them out and Dane yards down the field and like said, New Orleans. Surprisingly, number one against the run in Devia way. So if the giants go that route, they might be, you know, handicapping themselves of by trying to to pound the ball and those heavy formations of when the better option could just be spreading out going wide and and sling. In the ball just as long as they don't run around. I down. Right, right. Yeah. As we said on the last podcasts and we'll probably say a whole bunch going forward, just throw the ball on first down. It's it's just way better, especially against this defense that might even be a weekly segment. Yeah. Yeah. There's probably going to be a couple of things that are going to continue to pop up throwing the ball on first downs. Probably going to be one. We maybe we'll get to this a little later again, when we're previewing when the saints have the ball, but the giants should sign. Eric Reed has already popped up on two of the two episodes of this podcast. So maybe I don't know if that calendars break making it three for three or we can just bring it up again later. One, we just put that tally Mark on the board and use that as a segue to get over the defense. Yeah, there we go. So let's talk about when the saints have the ball, and I think there's a lot of cool things. The saints do. They're one of the best offenses in the league. They have been pretty much since drew Brees took over. So let's start there drew Brees is a damn magician like he's he's incredible. I was just watching the game against Atlanta right before we came on, he does stuff that's just ridiculous. He had one throw up the seem to Ben Watson. That was just I have no idea how it was placed over the defenders shoulder into Watson's hands. He is just he has. He's like the most accurate quarterback we've possibly ever seen yet. He doesn't the NFL what Baker Mayfield did at Oklahoma. And that's saying something that saying a lot. He isn't just accurate. He is precise, which I personally make a differentiation there. I, I believe accuracy is getting the ball to your target, getting your bowl to your receiver precision. Is putting the ball right wear needs to be for your receiver to be a, the only guy who can make a play on it and be make the play after the catch and breezes just he, he is absolutely uncanny in being able to do that and quickly. I think that's a fair thing to say in the difference there. He's just he's so good. He's so good at finding the open receiver. He so good at making an open receiver. He's just able to to pick apart whatever a defense is going to give him. He is completing. Not that completion percentage is is a great thing, and it's very overrated and a lot of places when we look at it, but he's completing eighty point six percent of his passes this year and it's not like he's just dumping it off. He has eight point four yards per attempt. He's already thrown for over. Thousand yards. And he has eight touchdowns and no interceptions basically drew Brees is doing what ally did against Houston, but every week and that is it. It is just absurd. Yeah, without us top running back well, well, sort of, yeah, I think we can probably safely say Alvin Kamara is the top running back now, but Brees has just been incredible, and he's going to be someone that's really tough to have make a mistake. And when you're possibly going to be in a high scoring game, like this has the potential to be getting an extra possession by causing a turnover in forcing someone to make a mistake that's really valuable. And it's just gonna be real hard to see drew Brees doing anything that's really going to cost his team. Yeah. And if somebody's going to make steak, you're going to have to force one of the skill position players to do it. I don't have that number in front of me, but I believe Michael Thomas has had a couple of humbles. Yes, Michael. Thomas has two fumbles but Tom is also how leads the league with thirty eight receptions on forty targets. He's catching ninety, five percent. Yes. Boggs on he's averaging one hundred three hundred thirty two point seven receiving yards per game through the first three weeks. He's gonna be going up against janoris Jenkins who has been hit or miss so far this season. So if we go back to those according to back charting, stats Jenkins is fifty. Second in yards allowed per pass and forty third in success rate and putting him against Michael. Thomas is going to be tough ass. He had de'andre Hopkins last week, but the. Way the saints us Thomas might be Jenkins toughest, ask of the season so far? Yeah, they, they moved Thomas all around their offense. They use him actually fairly similarly to how the giants of started using Beckham since Pat Shurmur has gotten here, right? He can be on the outside. They can move him on the inside. And one thing that's also going to be in the piece I have about Kamara when they use Kamara outside and in the slot. It's so often on the same side as Michael Thomas, and when the giants have been using Barclay outside, it's usually been with a tight end and Beckham is on the other side. But when they use Kamara and Thomas on the same side and they have route combinations where Thomas is drawing coverage because he's so dangerous and that leaves Kamara with so much space and he just catches an easy ball and can turn up the field and turn that into yards the way they use the two of them. Together is just incredible. It's brilliant, and it's just it's so good and so hard to defend because no matter which guy you pay attention to your choosing wrong because the other guy's gonna kill you. Yes. And basically you can. We can look at it as Alvin Kamara is their number two receiver. Michael Thomas has thirty eight receptions of Kamara has thirty receptions, you know, they have a, there's about one hundred yards difference. One hundred receiving yards difference between both of them and Camara has thirty seven carries to his thirty receptions. So Kamara is a is a big part of that offense and they've, I think they've really figured out how to use them. He's not nearly as a fishing as he was last year when he was just getting put in. He was splitting time with Ingram, but we knew he wasn't going to be as officiant. But the thing is that officiency could have come down so much. He could still be really good because he was yes, that amazing last year and he's still putting up great numbers this year. It's it's really tough to defend against this offense when they have a piece like that, they can move all over the field and he can beat you in just about any way. Yeah. The giants coaches should really go to school on how they're the saints are using Alvin Kamara and put that right into their offense. Like in their film study this week chart Kamara chart where he's lining up what situations and just say, cross his name off in right Barclay. Yeah, that's that's pretty much what what my Kamar article as been on. Just be like, take what Kamara does have Barclay do that. And if you can't stop Kamara when you're playing him at least us what he's going to do in the future. So it can help you just think of all the people who wouldn't be able to stop stop Barclay. Yeah, it's it's the same thing. They should be similar players and they should be used similarly, but they just haven't been so far and maybe that will change for the giants. So one thing when we look at drew Brees he's another guy who was pretty hard to get pressure on a. He gets the ball out quickly. He always knows where to go. But the giants right now, fourth, in defensive pressure rate, a lot of that came from the Houston game when they got pressure on almost every snap, it seemed, but they were still pretty good against Dallas. They weren't great against Jacksonville, but the pressure is coming a VA Vernon practiced for the first time on Wednesday. So we still don't know what his status is going to be for the game, but maybe he'll come back. But these other pieces have been able to get pressure, but they're going to be going against a saints defense. That's ten. In ofensive pressure rates. So they've been really good at keeping the pressure away from breeze. Yeah, you you kind of get the feeling with a little bit Vernon if he can walk, he's going to play, but I would love to see a repeat performance from BJ hill. Hopefully he earned more than fourteen snaps this week BBC a little bit more from Lorenzo Carter. 'cause you feel like he's starting to starting to? I wouldn't say get it, but big, you're out how to really unleash that athletes ISM. He's got and really make use of the that length and first step of his, oh, of course, carry win. He could. It'd be great if he came in and just ruined. Drew Brees is day. Yeah. And again, we didn't even mention Kareem Martin who was all up in the backfield against Houston. The one thing we we were concerned about going into the season was the death at the edge, and whether they could create a pass rush even with Livia Vernon, but especially. Without him. And so far they kinda have been able to. It was against it blind. That is terrible. But I guess it's going to be a good test to see whether they can keep getting that pressure of when they face a pretty good offensive line in New Orleans Saints of only six sacks so far if they can step up and move breeze office spot, break his rhythm, at least a little bit that could go a long way in this game. When we four quarterbacks have gotten sacked at a lower rate than breezes three point, seven percent. So he's typically in that low end just because he's so good at knowing where to go with the ball and went to get it out. But when he does get the ball out, I, this is going to be a big test for the secondary that again might not have ally apple, he still hasn't practiced a by the. Time we're recording this and even if you look past Michael Thomas, you ignore Alvin Kamara. The saints are still pretty good at brisker. So they have Ted Ginn who they've completely changed the way he really catches balls when he was in Miami in Carolina. He was a return threat who kinda was deep threat, and that's really all he did, but he came to the saints last year. They decrease his average depth of target. They were getting them in space more, letting them run more screens, and they just got the ball in his hands and let them do things. And he was has really taken off. He was one of the most efficient receivers in the league last year. And again, he is one of the boats fishing in receivers in the league this year as he's getting up there in age in there were some guys. There's Cam Meredith. There's trick on Smith. You kind of thought those guys were going to take. Over gins role as as his snaps decrease, but that hasn't really been the case in Guinea has been good again, and he's going to be seeing again, be w Webb maybe Dante Dion. So this is definitely going to be something to watch outside of that. Thomas Jenkins matchup it could wind up looking a lot like the the Andre Hopkins in will fuller the way the giants handled them last week, which wasn't great. Especially in the in the second half when they started running more zone coverages. But she probably also keep an eye on tight end Benjamin Watson right now he has the same number of receptions is Ted Ginn twelve one less yard. Obviously, basically basically the same yards per catch. And the only real difference is he hasn't gotten into the end zone yet, but he does get to go against the giants linebacking core. It's amazing how we kind of talk about the saints offense. Hell they're so good how they're so young at some positions. Michael Thomas is twenty-five. Alvin Kamara is twenty three of, but then we talk about like some of these other guys drew Brees is thirty nine, ten minutes, thirty three, Ben Watson is thirty. There's they're still getting production out of these guys. What Sean Payton can accomplish every really on a yearly basis is pretty amazing. It's it's almost too bad. He isn't a giants coach anymore. Yeah, I mean that that would have been a nice thing a couple years ago. Yeah, but yeah, it's it's amazing what he has really been able to do. He's kind of reinvented the offense a couple of times and kind of adapting to breeze. He breezed doesn't have the arm he used to, but they've kinda adapted to that and and they know how to use him. They know. Oh, breezes strains. They now have a weapon and Kamaruddin a weapon in Michael Thomas and all these other secondary weapons that issue. It's so hard to defend against them, especially when they're just spread out and they go empty. There's not much defense can do no. And especially with the giants, how it's their secondary is depleted and the depth was a question coming in. I could definitely see Sean Bain, trying to scheme up ups against Beato you web and Curtis Riley and whoever winds up on those guys just eating, which is why you lied has to keep his Cape on the that KP put on last week. He's got. He has to do his rube reason brushing again, did there's probably no other way the giants hang in this game. And when we get back in into the middle of the field where you you talk about mismatches, you. We do have Kamara against the giants linebackers and the giants surprisingly faith in Devi away against running backs in the passing game, but they haven't really been tested so far. It was Leonard for net in in the first game. Lamar Miller wasn't great in the past in game for Houston, but they're gonna get Kamara. And that's probably going to be a lot of of coverage by the linebackers and there was actually a gift. I forgot I created that popped up again this week, someone I guess, had gone back and found it, but it's Alvin Kamara just putting this move on Alex Ogle trees. He was on the Rams I was just in the middle of the field. Ogle tree just has fee. Planet has no idea where Kamara is gonna go, and he just runs right past them and there was no chance. So if the saints are smart, which they are pretty smart. Offensive team. We might be seeing Kamara against Ogle treat quite a bit, and that's not something the giants are going to win very often yet. That's not ideal. They might hope to try to match him up on rear Armstrong. You know, guys Lou bit more athletic. He's got a more recent history as defensive back who Luebbe veteran coverage, but yet not ideal. Yeah, this is just tough matchups all the way around. And I mean, this is what the saints do. This is out the saints are two in one with one of the league's worst defenses. They spread teams out. They can push the ball down field. They can dump it off and find space. There's really no way the saints. Offense can't beat a defense. So there's going to be a lot of points scored in that direction. I think. The key to the game is whether the giants offense can take advantage of that saints defense. And, hey, actually the margin between what the saints are scoring in what they're giving up is razor thin. So it might not take a whole lot to decide this game. They're scoring thirty four point, seven points a game. They're giving up thirty four point three. That's half a point actually four tenths of a point, but I'm not sure if there's a four tenths of a point play out there. So it could come down to the defense making one, stop the offense, taking another five. Plays on a drive to keep the saints offense off the field. One last time, of course, as we sell this cooked, it could just blindside all of us in the a fifteen eighteen game will I? I promptly, but it could happen. I think I've comfortably been okay with with taking the under for every giants game so far this season, I think I would tell people to take the over in this one. Even if the giants can't hang just for what the saints offense can do. That's probably worth the over by itself. This game really could wind up being like a big twelve style track, meet, just put on your running shoes. Kind of like that game was back in twenty fifteen where you lie throws for six touchdowns res throws for seven, but hopefully this time will flip the script on them. We'll see it'll. It'll definitely be something to watch. I think as giants games go this season, this definitely has the most intrigue going in. I think this might be the most watchable of the games will we'll see, but I think that that's all we got for for this preview unless there's something else you want to add before we get going now I think that about covers it. Yeah, I think so. Definitely definitely something to watch. So thank you for hanging out with his preview. We will be back on Monday morning talking about how this game actually went. Thanks for joining us. You can find us on all of the places where you listen to your podcast, run apple podcast, Google podcasts, Stitcher, Spotify, please, whatever you go subscribe rate and review since we're very. New podcast that helps getting us up in the algorithm and helping this be found in and letting more giants fans here this and that that would mean a lot to us. So appreciate you guys listening. We'll be back on Monday and so for now, thank you and we'll talk to you again soon.

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