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FBI director says Washington, DC assault 'domestic terrorism,' no evidence of Antifa
"Facing a tough round of questioning on Capitol Hill as Congress continues to examine the events that led up to the deadly attack on the U. S Capitol building. Members of the Senate Judiciary Committee questioned Ray about police involvement in riots and in the white supremacist movement, the vast, vast, vast, vast, vast vast majority of the men and women in uniform both in law enforcement and the military. Our brave, selfless, professional, high integrity individuals. But when there are bad apples in the midst, we work with our partners to try to get ahead of it. Federal authorities have arrested numerous off duty police officers and members of the military for taking part in the attack. Several Republicans used today's hearing to question Ray about threats posed by Antifa and other left wing extremist groups. Ray made clear that those groups were not part of the capital riot, which he labeled as domestic terrorism. Retail
FBI Director, Christopher Wray, Testifies Before The Senate
"As Congress continues to examine the events that led up to the deadly attack on the U. S Capitol building. Members of the Senate Judiciary Committee questioned Ray about police involvement in riots and in the white supremacist movement, the vast, vast, vast, vast, vast vast majority of the men and women in uniform both in law enforcement and the military. Our brave, selfless, professional, high integrity individuals. But when there are bad apples in the midst, we work with our partners to try to get ahead of it. Federal authorities have arrested numerous off duty police officers and members of the military for taking part in the attack. Several Republicans used today's hearing to question Ray about threats posed by
HOw Has White Supremecy Changed In The US
"V Colorado US presidential election campaign which draws to a merciful conclusion. Four days from now has been such a circus that events which would have defined. Other contests have been swiftly forgotten among those wells the thwarting earlier this month of an apparent plot by far right still styled militiamen to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer and the subsequent discovery of links between those alleged conspirators and of the white supremacist groups. This is a cohort which has been repeatedly. Nodded and winked at from the highest pulpit in the land. These last four years. What happens in the next four? Whatever happens on Tuesday well earlier I spoke to Kathleen, Balu Assistant Professor of US history at the University of Chicago and offer of bringing the war home, the white power movement and paramilitary America I began by asking Kathleen how the white supremacist movement has changed between the nine, thousand, nine hundred, and now there's two differences in what's happening in the nineteen eighties and forward one is at the violence. This movement is interested in carrying out is explicitly anti-state they want to overthrow the federal government. So this is one of the reasons that I think white nationalist as a term can be confusing the nation and white nationalism nineteen eighty-three is not the united. States, it is the Irian Nation and they're imagining a fundamental overthrow of the country and all of its democratic practices. So the other thing that's different is that this movement is bringing together a lot of different people in every way but race, it is an. Incredibly, diverse social movement. We're talking about a whole bunch of different sub sections of white supremacists thinking. So this is the first time in the nineteen eighties. The we see a unification between clansmen, neo-nazis skinheads, radical tax resisters, posse comitatus members, and then in the early nineteen nineties, we start to see militia members in these groups as well. Now, all of that is emblematic of a movement that has taken a page from earlier. American. History. So it it it borrows from the opportunism of earlier clan mobilizations, but it's Very different in its deadly intent and in the number of people is able to bring together in this new set of sort of violent belief systems. If you consider its car numbers and its current firepower, how is impossible to quantify how dangerous these movements are obviously, we had seen in recent weeks the apparent thwarting of a plot to kidnap Governor Gretchen Whitmer Michigan but is that an it's a depressing thought but is that likely a straw in the wind will there be more of that sort of thing not. Only will there be more, but that story is already proving to be more than it looked at first glance. There were reports today that members of the base, which is an underground paramilitary wide power group have been arrested in connection to that plot. So already, we're seeing cross group organization and were seeing how this is working in network much the way it did in the nineteen eighties. So one of the most important things that people can do a to understand what this is an to combat it is simply To connect these stories with one another, it's very easy especially in a news cycle when people feel so buffeted with information at all times and sort of feel under attack by their own news feeds, I think it's very difficult to do the work of paying attention but it it's absolutely critical here because it's not just about the group that tried to kidnap Governor Whitman it's about the the connections between that group. The proud boy is Adam often in the base boo-boys, there are many of these groups on. The scene now now to your question about numbers, this is a very difficult one I'm not sure we even have an accurate headcount for the earlier movement, and that's where we have the the most consistent set of archival materials. As a historian. I'm very reluctant to make specific claims about the movement right now because I don't have my sources together yet and I won't have them for another ten or twenty years but what we know from reading the history and from reading the news. So in other words, what the? That history gives us can show us is that we have every reason to be concerned about further activity and escalating violence. This is a movement that is intent on mass casualty attacks that has used not just voter intimidation, but all kinds of other violent means over years and that has been organizing in this way quite effectively for decades. If not generations, this is not a new problem and it's not something that will go away quickly and the other thing is that this is a movement that is organized around sell style action much. Like a group in in radical Islamic terror would would work mix up that this group has been doing that since nineteen eighty-three, they're very, very good at it because they use cell style organization, there's not a great correlation between rising size of group membership lists and rising capacity for violent action. Because if you're trying to carry out an act of style terror, you're not interested in two thousand people who are going to come out on Saturday and March Down Main Street. You're interested in six people who are willing to detonate a bomb. So the difference is sometimes what we see is a shrinking of membership before an intense surge and violence I'm very concerned that that's where we are now and I think you know the people who do have archival information for the present day moment are saying the same thing. So I'm hearing this from people in the FBI people at Department of Homeland Security who have access to surveillance documents. I'm hearing this from people at the southern poverty law center and other watchdog groups who? Spend their time monitoring white power and militia TV, online, and most of hearing this from people who work in de radicalization trying to help people out of the movement everyone is sounding the alarm bell right now, everyone is running up the red flag and I think you know you don't have to listen to me. I'm just a historian, but I think everyone is calling everyone they can think of to to sort of try to get people to pay attention to this very grave situation. Hunch they're bringing an acceleration in the momentum of these groups because of if obviously radically different reasons the last two presidents you had the the fact of a black president of the United States, which clearly a number of people had a significant problem with and he's followed by a president who is to put it charitably equivocal in his condemnation of these groups. Yes. Absolutely and we're seeing a very clear relationship between political rhetoric and extremist action is that to price do you think can be put back in the tube night at all? That's a good metaphor for it. I usually say we can't on ring the bell. Exactly the problem right because you know if you take something like the president's remarks in the first debate about calling the proud boys to quote stand back and stand by even if you take the most generous interpretation of his remarks and say, okay, perhaps perhaps he was fed that group name and he doesn't know who they are perhaps he meant to tell them. To stand down even if we take all of that as given I think that there is a very real problem i. in the fact that it's not just the proud boys who heard that as a paramilitary call to readiness there are many other underground groups like the Bass Lake the guys in Michigan who heard that call as the call to action. And there's another problem of even in the case of activists who right now support the president. There's no indication that he has the power to call these people off. Once he has ignited away of violence as I said, this is a movement that has been expressly anti-government for many many years, and this is a strange thing about the United States that it has since the Vietnam war been. Very possible to hold the position in the United States of being anti government and pro president or pro-military or pro cop at the same time I mean we see Ronald Reagan making statements about how the government is the problem not the solution while he is the head of the government. So that sort of gymnastics act of balancing that since a fracture is not a problem for people here. So, there is a way that you can be pro trump right now and still be dedicated to violent overthrow of the state down the road or at some present moment and another note of caution is just the last time that this movement became very deadly setting off the string of events that led to the Oklahoma City bombing, and you know the the most horrific mass casualty attack for the United States between Pearl Harbor Nine Eleven. The last time that happened was not under a leftist administration it was under Reagan and it was because activists in this movement saw Reagan's perceived moderation as a sign. that. Political means could never deliver the kind of change that they wanted. Even Reagan was not offering what they wanted, which was reestablishment of Jim Crow Segregation or reinstatement of slavery or establishment of a white homeland things like this were much too radical for mainstream politics. So there's a real chance that even trump will hit align where it's too extreme for him. I mean even trump is not talking about reestablishing slavery and at that point I think there might be a wave of dissatisfied people if he's re-elected who are interested in mass casualty attacks just finally is there an aspect of this which is? Not just or perhaps beyond politics and beyond even race it strikes me just looking at the. Way in which the members of these movements present themselves, there's this strange cartoonish idea of masculinity in play. You know it is a very masculine movement, but it turns out that both in the earlier movement and today women are incredibly important to this activism You don't always see that in the public facing part of what they're doing. But in the period of my study, there's a whole bunch of women who are sort of forming the social network holds these people together and really makes possible violent action and they're doing everything from publishing their own newspapers to running their. Own Auxiliary groups to driving getaway cars and disguising people when they're on the Lam and even as they're doing all that they are saying things like I'm not an activist I'm not political I would never seek a leadership role because you know within this worldview out sweat good womanhood looks like but however you cut it women are incredibly important here and we would be foolish to think that those deep social interactions aren't part of what is sustaining this groundswell. I'm just you're just finally finally and feel free if you like to to refuse to gaze into a crystal ball but. How do you see this playing out in the next? Well, the next few weeks I if the polls are correct and Donald Trump does lose office on Tuesday. Well I, think everyone in the United States. Approaching all polls with a degree of caution from now on for. Immediate. Historical reasons. My concern here is that there is no mental picture that I can paint. There's no series of events that I can see that would make someone at this point with this set of social pressures with this worldview simply put down the weapons and go home and say, okay, well, we lost this round. It's time to go do some democratic change somewhere else. So my concern is that if trump is while if biden is elected, I think that these activists will not only be frustrated and rally look for mass casualty are opportunities if trump. Is elected I think that one ends game has to do with them, feeling dissatisfied and turning to mass casualty attacks in route to overthrowing the government. Again, as they've been doing for quite a long time, another route would be a continuation of sort of this Lincoln in an odd slash outright calling to arms line of rhetoric I mean there's a way that groups like this and other contexts have become strike forces and death squads for authoritarian regimes and there we can look to southern America and central, America for many examples of how that's happened. All all three of these are threats to Americans and to our democracy. So I think it is a very bleak time for people who pay attention to this particular part of the American political life. But was Kathleen Blues speaking to me earlier, Kathleen's book bring the war home the white power movement and paramilitary America is published by BELKNAP.
"white supremacist movement" Discussed on Nerdette
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So we're any of your own family members involved in the warranty thirty five. You. Know. Yes. I know that from my my father's side, his brothers cousins. My grandfather they were involved heavily involved, but I did not know. Until I was basically done with the book and I was doing final final location edits. I had to go to idiopathic at the last minute to do some work. And I was I decide my mom goes with me on all these research trips I mean. She, she loves it. So that's wonderful. Yeah. So we took it had to be like. Ten days almost ten days on the road going to different villages where some of the book is set and it wasn't until we got back home to a SABA. That I was telling her you know I have a photograph of a woman and Blah Blah Blah and Shea just really casually turned to me and she said, well, what about? Your? Great Grandmother What yeah and I looked at her that's exactly what I. Walked out her. Just like we had finished dinner, I had my glass of wine and I looked at. I said what? Words could not sink in my head and she's your great grandmother as if Oh, you know done a hotter. And So my great grandmother had enlisted in the war as a young girl. And I had no idea of the story the book was. It makes me think about. What actually memory is like those things we think we make up our maybe stories that are stored inside us. Fascinating to think about. Does so So, does that make you think if you had known this story earlier? Do you think you would have written a different book or do you think you always kind of knew the story and it was just? In you that way, I really did not know this story I I don't know what would have happened if I had known before I wrote with a complete freedom. Yeah and I think in a sense, this was better because I didn't feel obligated to reproduce a family story. Yeah, it's just the coincidences. Struck me it felt it was astounding when I heard this. That is true. That's wonderful I wonder. To rap if there's I mean I highly recommend this book as an opportunity to learn a lot about about Ethiopia and its strength and end its imperfections. But I wonder too. If there's if there's something you wish more people knew especially here in the US about Ethiopia. It is a beautiful diverse country. I think that a lot of people when they think of Ethiopian think of those stories of famine from the eighties. But it helped you is is much more than that. It's much more than One ruler, it is a group of over one hundred, million people with several Several religions Christian Muslim indigenous it is you know How many the last time I checked I think. Eighty different languages. Wow it is diverse. It's beautiful. It is a stunning country and I recommend that people visit a go to the north go to the south. It's some of the most beautiful country I've seen in I. I'm really not being biased. And we have the best food. Maza Ed. Thank you so much for for ratings such a lovely book and for for chatting with me about it was really a pleasure. Thank you. Thank you. It was a pleasure. Maza guest a what a fascinating story I cannot wait for Y'all to read the shadow king and you should send us a voicemail about it. Once you read it just record yourself soft us which you think about it, and then email the file to note at PODCAST AT G DOT COM. And then be sure to come back for our panel discussion on Friday September Twenty Six. Oh and hey, do you have pumpkin spice opinions like? Are you really insistent that it is not yet fall have you baked apple cider doughnut loaf cakes yet. We would love to hear from you about those opinions it's coming up for Tuesday's episode. So like do it right now, same deal record yourself email the file note at podcast Edgy Milwaukee home. All, right. That's it. For today, the show is produced by me and Justin. Boiler executive producer is Brendan Bana Zach. We will see you on Tuesday. 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"white supremacist movement" Discussed on Motive
"Motive is supported by better help a convenient and affordable online counselling service that can match you with a licensed therapist start communicating with your counselor in under forty eight hours via secure video phone chat or text more than one million people have taken charge of their mental health with the help of experienced better help counselors who specialize in issues like anxiety, depression and stress our listeners get ten percent off the first month at better H E L P, dot com slash motive podcast talk to a therapist online and get help. Writer Joe mcguiness and convicted killer Jeff McDonald's started out as friends it was. That was occurring and it was unmistakable I. But when Joe wrote a book about Jeff The friendship was over Jeffrey, MacDonald's the psychopath. He has no remorse. No conscience. Did you lie to Jeff to get the truth is what Joe Making this did morally indefensible I'm Mark Merlin, the Jinxing crime town and I've got new podcast morally indefensible coming apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Even before the Nazis showed up at the PUNK clubs David speers had confronted them. It was in the seventies years before the skinheads David was fifteen he heard that the American Nazi party, a bunch of older white guys who address in German Nazi uniforms plan to local march. To David. Those old guys were a joke we went around. We went to a local Deli and we asked the guy. What he does with the old bagels. So saved up for a week and gave us a hefty bag full and all my friends went to different supermarkets and stole all the Philadelphia cream cheese. We could and we made balls out of it and we went in through bagels and cream cheese at the Nazis. It's a prank that some might have found offensive to Jewish people, but to a teenage David, it was funny. Flash. Forward. To around. Nineteen eighty-four there was nothing funny about these new Nazis and their leader Clark Martell. At first, they went by the name of Clark's mail order music business, romantic violence, but then they adopted an acronym. Cash, for Chicago area skinheads. They were hanging around with Dussen, we'd heard stories about Clark, walking up to an interracial couple dancing and walking up to the white girl and slapping her and saying, what are you doing dancing with a new bigger? Things would escalate and they sought to cause trouble. We've eventually decided we'd have to put a stop to this at that point became more of a war with these guys. In this war, there were two sides, Clark in his Neo Nazi cash crew on one on the other everyone else they called themselves anti racist skinheads. And the two sides would fight anywhere they crossed paths. They fight in the clubs. Let's have some fun. Let's go to Medusa and kick their ass finally came to that. They'd fight an alleys by the labs. We would do stuff like get you know smallest one of US little Filipino guy to run up to the biggest ugliest one of them, spitting his face and run around the corner, and we'd be waiting in the alley and just stop on them. Next week. Let's do this against. We just did last week. They can't fall for it again. Well, they did. They. Even fight on the subway you're still. Going what sixty miles an hour and you're in a tunnel there's. Got Nowhere to go. So it's like you should bite you WANNA keep your teeth people moved back like Oh, shit because no one wanted to get hurt. Even, before the Nazis showed up, fights were a feature of the pumpkin skins scenes. Usually, they were about dumb stuff fueled by hormones egos, and pride. But when Clark and cash came around the fighting became important in a way it hadn't been before it was almost a daily occurrence. Got to the point where it not enjoyable anymore, it was almost like you just had to do it because we didn't want them to get a foothold anywhere. We kinda thought is our duty to defend the scene. And the fighting itself changed the scene favorite music venues started closing their doors to skins. Nazis anti-racists alike, lot of clubs didn't want to deal with it. A lot of places didn't WANNA. Let us hang out anymore because of it definitely changed the tone and the feeling for sure. When I hear stories from skins of that time. Here's what blows my mind. They were so young in their teens. But here they were committing themselves to one side in a war of good versus evil. Anti Racist Against Fascist invaders it sounds big to me now and it must have felt even bigger in the mind of a teenager. But it wasn't just about good versus evil. David speers may have been the only one who saw the history that had led to this battle in the skinhead scene. This went beyond cash. See I never thought of it is just them. They were part of a larger white supremacists movement that was going on in the eighties. David. Wasn't just a young guy who fallen in love with the music in the look he was a political activist. David was a member of the John Brown Anti Klan Committee which taught that white supremacy comes from white people and so it has to be fought by white people to. There's a resurgence of backlash to all the games that have been made because of the political action of black people the civil rights movement. Later, more radical groups like the Black Panthers in a lot of gains made is not just the skinner's this is part of something much much bigger with a long history. These teenagers in Chicago may not have been aware of it but they're fights in clubs. Alleys were about whether skinheads would become new blood for the American White Supremacist Movement. The lines couldn't have been drawn any more clearly than they were on July night in Nineteen eighty-five, the night of the Wellington Avenue Church fight. Could I run off and get a quick beer. Oh Yeah. Sure. I'll just be a second sorry to keep you hanging here. Martin Bill Heimer remembers it well. So we're all sitting around and we were like all right We've got to do something about this. We've gotTA stop these people. We've got to do it in big mass numbers to show them that they're not only not welcomed. They'RE GONNA get hurt if they come here and they're not going to be able to recruit for their racist army or whatever stupid Crowley. Doing. So Martin and his friends decided to make a show of force in the eighties. PUNKS were forever organizing benefit concerts. They'd be in church basements and clubs. There were rock against racism shows concerts to raise money to treat people of color living with AIDS, and there was one coming up to rally people against nuclear weapons..
Homeland Security whistleblower: Team Trump distorted intelligence, downplayed Russian threats
"Reporting on the threat of Russian interference to the election, emphasized the threat from China downplay the threat from white supremacists but highlight the threat of Antifa and other leftist groups. That is what a Department of Homeland Security officials says he was told to do in a whistleblower complaint. NPR National security correspondent Hannah Allam is here to talk about the latest claims of political pressure at the D. H s and the implications. Dana. Thanks for being here. Hi there, So I lied. I laid out the the broad strokes of this whistleblower complaint. But can you fill in the details for us? Sure. Until last month, Brian Murphy led the intelligence branch of th S, and he was reassigned after revelations that the office was compiling reports on protesters and journalists. But now, Murphy says the real reason he lost his job is for speaking up about what he portrays is White House attempts to manipulate intelligence to match President Trump's statements. And, as you said he makes claims about Russia an election meddling, but I'm focusing on parts of the complaint, where he describes specific attempts to influence intelligence on domestic terrorism threats. Murphy says his boss is the top th s officials told him in no uncertain terms on several occasions to play down the threat of white supremacists and to play up the thread of Antifa and other militant leftist and he says he was told to do this so that the DEA just intelligence assessments would match what Trump says publicly. And publicly the president frequently and erroneously, we should say it portrays Antifa as an equal or even greater threat than the exponentially deadlier. Extreme, right. This is something I've discussed with Seth Jones at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. He's got a long background in counterterrorism work, and he and other analysts say the White House assertions of widespread violence from the left are baseless. Those comments or general not coming from the experts within the administration, who Are at the National Counterterrorism Center at the FBI Counterterrorism division. They're coming from politicians, so it's not a reflection of the data, The far left simply does not present the same threat. That the far right dozen capabilities in plots and attacks Orin fatalities, none of those Nevertheless, this is what Brian Murphy says he was pressured to do to elevate the threat of the far left. How does he describe this? This pressure campaign. Well in the complaint, he talks about being asked by the top leaders to soften language and report on white supremacy to make it quote less severe, And at the same time, he says, he was being asked to add more information. On the far left. He mentions Antifa anarchists, in particular, the White House's dismissed these allegations are false and defamatory that call Murphy a disgruntled employee. But he's not the first to raise these concerns. We've heard former senior D H s officials saying this that the far right wasn't taken seriously. We've heard it from researchers who work closely with the government on policy making. And I mean we hear it ourselves in the market the different ways. The president speaks about attacks where the perpetrator's a right wing ideologue versus, say, a leftist or a Muslim. What does take this one up A notch in terms of revelations is that this is an insider alleging that political appointees attempted to manipulate actual intelligence and this is not a press release. This was an assessment of domestic threats to the nation. So Murphy is asking the department's inspector general to investigate what he calls abuses of authority. So how how did all of that affect the white supremacist movement? Extremism analyst generally say the far right especially, you know, white nationalist supremacists had been emboldened under Trump. And so this is one more account, saying the administration looked the other way as violent actors got more organized, more violent, better funded. And now we're starting to see some of those groups show up to protest, intimidate and launch attacks that many fear will lead to an escalation before and after the November election. NPR national security correspondent Hannah Lamma. Thank you so much for your reporting. Hannah, we appreciate it.
"white supremacist movement" Discussed on Reveal
"True. Botanical Garden Com slash reveal. From, the Center for investigative reporting NPR x this is reveal I'm alison. The FBI and academic researchers say there's no such thing as a terrorist profile. You can't tell who's going to become terrorists with a personality tests or demographic checklist. But the young white men who attacked the synagogues of Pittsburgh and Powei and the Walmart. No Paso. They had a lot in common, not only were they motivated by the same conspiracy theory about why people being replaced, they developed those ideas in some of the same spaces online to them, even posted their manifestos to the same website. Now. You can't blame today's white supremacist terrorism on the Internet, but you also can't understand it without talking about the way. The White Supremacist Movement uses the Internet and how that's changed over the last decade. Reveals. Stan alcorn is going to tell that story through the eyes of a man who lived it here, stand. Josh Bates Decade as a white supremacist started in his mid twenty s with a youtube video about the presidential candidate. He says he supported at the time Iraq, Obama. I was scrolling through the comments section. You know he's a Muslim. He wasn't or year. Things of that nature at somebody said you guys sound like those storm front assholes. The world's storm from. Storm Front is a message board that a former KKK leader set up in the nineties. Josh says he went there at first because he was curious than to argue. But then the middle aged message board neo. Started winning him over. How could they be convincing in these arguments like? Can you help me understand that? I wish I can answer that question. Is still ask myself that allow I ended up falling for something like that, but I guess. Similar to how we look at people who fall into calls, you know it's a conditioning process. It's a grooming process and I. Let Myself Fall into that. The experts I talked to say that first step is more about the person than what they're stepping into. Josh had.
"white supremacist movement" Discussed on Deconstructed with Mehdi Hasan
"My guest today is someone who knows the far right and the far right Media Echo Chamber better than most Nicole Hammer is a political historian at Columbia University a frequent contributor to CNN in the New York Times and author of messengers of the right conservative media and the transformation of American Politics. Nicole joins me now from my home in New York. City Nicole. Thanks for joining me on deconstructed. Thank you so much for having me when you saw the images of those men with guns in Lansing Michigan trying to full stairway onto the floor of the state legislature. Almost getting into a fight with the police. What went through your mind you know. It was a striking image and a strikingly familiar. One in a lot of ways. If you'll remember back to believe January of this year we saw a armed people storming the State House in Virginia in a pro-gun rally. And you know it's something we've seen again and again like these images of people who are arm to look like members of militias storming state houses which are pretty pretty striking Pretty worrisome images and you mentioned you know going back to January but if you go back beyond January how knew how dangerous a phenomenon is this in your view because obviously and especially for our global own. It's not just for our American listeners. You know we all know there have always been angry white men with guns in America. I mean the second amendment literally refers to militias. So what's different now? So what is different now? Is that since the nineteen nineties in the. Us There has been an organized militia movement it sprang in many ways out of the white power movement in the nineteen seventies in one thousand nine hundred eighty s and was refashioned around things like anti taxation and gun rights an anti-government philosophy and that militia movement led to the deaths of many people most notably in nine hundred five in the Oklahoma City bombing and was somewhat muted during the George W Bush administration but during the Obama Administration came roaring back. And we are seeing that now. Tenure organizational effort really bearing fruit in these lockdown protests and is bearing fruit partly thanks to the lockdown protests and partly. Thanks to the fact that you have a president. Who's not Barack Obama or even George W Bush who basically kind of nudges and winks and sends all sorts of signals. Saying I'm with you. I mean I mean goes beyond nudging winking. He referred to the lockdown protesters. Recently is quote very good people. That's a huge propaganda tool recruiting sergeant even for a lot of these groups. Isn't it absolutely they here in things like very good people the same thing that white power groups heard twenty seventeen when Donald trump praised very fine people after the Charlottesville protests and Donald trump is no stranger to the language of political violence? It's something that he has encouraged throughout his presidential campaign and throughout his presidency. This idea that you know white people especially white men have a right to use violence. He he's talked about it himself with his own campaign he would have the ability to shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and no one would complain and that wasn't just an over the top statement from him. It was a political philosophy that violence is sort of the warp and woof of his style of politics and something that his his followers respond to. Yeah and it's so frustrating that despite all the evidence we cited at the start of the show. You just mentioned in your answer. He still gets this weird pass even from segments of the liberal media who are always normalizing Stuff he was on ABC News. Just this week with David. Muir did a red Non Fox News interview no questions about his support for these militia groups his tweets about Virginia his general incitement to violence. Which goes about to Charlottesville in two thousand seventeen goes to his campaign in two thousand fifteen. In Israelis yeah. I think that normalization is really important to talk about. Because it's the context for all of this. Donald trump like many people in on the right and far right movements says very incendiary things things that he often means and then if you take them seriously he's like I was just joking. Right was just being over the top. How how silly are you? And how dumb are you to take this seriously? When in fact the people who are taking it the most seriously are not the people in the media who do try to sort of shrug it off his over the top rhetoric but it is in fact these militia movements and other violent extremist movement to hear him say these things and get encouragement from them. Yes Ruth Ben The historian of Fascism makes the point in the Mussolini's to do similar things in in the nineteen thirties where he would trial balloon and float kind of authoritarian extremist things and in full back on. You know just joking and we will know whether ended up to talk about incendiary rhetoric. The BOO glue people. And I've I've lending all sorts of new groups in recent weeks seeing some of these kind of extremist militias and others turning up at houses the boo people and these people who talk about civil war all the time. They think there's a kind of race based civil around the corner. A lot of people here that they think it's silly leaving highway but the president's mentioned civil war too has an during the impeachment process. How significant are these civil wa- references so these two should be taken very seriously and you'll say Bucaliu and this is the name of the movement it comes from this idea civil war to electric glue And it's meant to sound silly and joking and all of these things but the idea of a race based civil war has been a core tenant of white power and to a certain extent militia organizing since the nineteen seventy s and nineteen eighties and nineteen eighty-three the white power movement in the US declared war against the federal government. And this idea that there would eventually be a civil war that would be a race. War in the United States has been a really important. Recruitment tool and organizational effort in these militia movements and in the white power movement and back in October of twenty nineteen. Donald TRUMP RE tweeted One of his famous followers Robert Jeffress who is a Pastor and a common site on Fox News talking about that impeachment would lead to civil war and in embodying that idea of war as President. He was giving real power to an idea that has been again a recruitment tool for these extremist movements in and sadly it's not just donald trump. You have Steve King. Republican congressman from Iowa Perhaps the most right wing member of Congress them as Neo Nazi member of Congress who just over a year ago posted on Facebook memes combat folks keep talking about another civil. One side has about eight trillion bullets while the other side doesn't know which bathroom to us says kind of members of Congress posting means bragging about the fact that this culture will talk about could turn into a violent civil war and and I think we need to stay on that point that this is a a member of Congress. This is a member of the government who is not just speaking in the language of a civil war but inciting it encouraging it and when you add him to the president and other members of Congress who also embrace pretty strong white supremacist ideas and Steve King is really a bastion of a lot of Racist comments in racist ideas and combining that with civil war it does empower movements like Google Movement to see themselves as having legitimacy and having supporters in the highest office in the land and just staying with the civil war point before we move on this idea as you mentioned it goes back a long way. This is not a new idea. This is not something that appeared when trump appeared on the scene. You pointed out in a CNN. Last year it goes all the way back to the Turner. Diaries this kind of fascistic racist novel back in. Nineteen seventy eight yes so the Turner. Diaries have become in some ways. The Bible of the Far White White Supremacist Movement. It's about this kind of civil war race war and it's still incredibly popular on old rate sites you can read it on the Internet. It's widely available And it is sort of this kind of fantasy novel of this race war and the way that white people will rise up and defeat the colored people of the world. It's a lot like in some ways. The book the camp of the Saints which is another sort of international version of this And these are Steve. From one of Steve Bannon favorite books I believe exactly and so when we talk about militias and when we talk about white power movements this kind of a fantasy novel of this uprising against people of color is really really important to understand and it ties back to a legacy far beyond donald trump right. We're talking about things from forty years ago but still have a real power in bringing people into the movement Americans know the names of all the quote unquote Islamist terror groups off by heart. Almost everyone knows isis al Qaeda Boko Haram et Cetera et CETERA. Then not so familiar with the domestic extremists. The oath keepers the sovereign citizens or the three percent. Is the proud boys. I never heard of the boo boo people until this week. I'll be honest. Is that a failure of the? Us news media it's a failure of the US news media and to a certain extent a failure of historians. That's only recently been corrected in which you know all of this racist violence That become so central in the nineteen eighty s and nineteen nineties. In American Life was largely pinned on sort of lone wolf actors and that Lone Wolf Narrative becomes really not only the way that media covered domestic terrorism but how law enforcement covered domestic terrorism. Right up until around the time of Charlottesville in the wake of Charlottesville we have seen law enforcement begin to use a more expansive understanding of these. What are essentially terrorist groups operating within the United States They use a model of leaderless resistance. Which is this kind of cell base terrorism that we see in other places And yet they're not necessarily reported on in that same. There's more good reporting being done in this area than there had previously been But say during the Obama. Era when you got this warning right at the start in two thousand nine that right wing extremism was on the rise in the US and represented the single largest domestic terrorist threat. that That report was killed by the administration itself because it got so much blowback from Republicans and the right And so there has been this real resistance to acknowledging and reporting accurately on some of the most dangerous people in the United States while at the same time Reporting in great detail on a threats that existed outside of the. Us You made such important point there about Two thousand nine and Darryl Johnson from the DHS who wrote that memo he was on our show actually A couple of years back And you know one of the points he made at the time when he came on the show was the Obama Administration shut down. They shut them down. Because it was a new administration they were worried about upsetting the right and Republicans in Congress was suggesting that any toll cafaro extremism in the US was an attack on conservatives and in a way they've got a point which is that a lot of these groups. Aw Extensions of the Republican Party There's a reason why the Republican body doesn't want to attack these people out these people because they are turning up protests and trump hats. They do tend to be Republican voters. And that's a difficult conversation to have to talk about one of the two main parties in this country having as part of its base people who are members of as you point out really terrorist groups by any consensus definition right. I mean we don't have a really good way of talking about this because the conversation is seen as too incendiary and then gets shut down right away. There are obviously huge differences between your average voter. Who goes out and votes for the Republican Party and a member of one of these militia groups and yet there are blurred lines organizationally. There are blurred lines in terms of the movement in terms of rallies and things like that Between these groups and there are common policy objectives of common ideologies obviously on the furthest fringes They are not that interested in electoral politics. They're much more interested in political violence. But the lines of just gotten more blurred over the past four or five years. Trump is the master of blurring those lines. You tweeted recently. It's useful to think of the lockdown protests as re purposed activism You pointed to pre existing political groups anti axes militias pro gun groups rebranding themselves in the context of this pandemic. That is both fascinating and scary. Yeah it should be scary one of the things that I was thinking about when I tweeted. That was one about the Tea Party. But also about the ways that white power groups in the late nineteen seventies nineteen eighties started to rebrand themselves as this militia movement. And in doing so what happens? Is You have white power. Activists who then present themselves says sort of racism neutral militia members. But you also have people who joined these militias not necessarily out of White supremacist motives but out of anti-government motives and that allows those groups to become legitimated and to grow and to latch onto much more popular and much more mainstream political issues like anti taxation or pro gun rights. And you see that happen again later and it makes it harder for those of us who want to call out the far-right groups to call them out. Because if they're saying well hold on which is to good old antitax group while you cooling us Extremists legitimizes the rest of that project. Because some of the things that doing as as we just discussed mainstream republican things super effective and what role we talked about the liberal media failure to cover some of these groups so into you know do some deep dives into them until Charlottesville happen until you now the locked out. What role does the right wing media in particular the Fox News? Bright box of this world. What will do they play in? Not just inciting these protesters in these groups but legitimising the mainstreaming them as well. Yeah so in a lot of ways the coverage coming out of Fox News and conservative. Talk Radio for instance places like Breitbart. Some of them do try to make a distinction between far-right militias and The conservative movement but more likely they and more often they represent these groups as Patriots and that language of patriotism and support for these militias And for these you know presenting them as Pro Gun. Groups and trump supporters and as patriots is a really powerful way of saying the the liberal media are going to tell you that these guys are scary and crazy white supremacists but look at them. They're just people often draped in American flags Who are standing up for your rights and that's a really powerful processes of legitimation. I feel like people on the left even today. Don't take Fox News seriously laugh..
Replacement anxiety: White supremacist terrorism
"Zealand has spent the weekend morning. Fifty people who killed when a white supremacist gunman. Open fire. It two mosques during Friday prayers. Dozens more still in a critical condition in hospital cabinet today. Made in principle decisions around the reform of our gun laws. Prime minister descendant spoke to journalists today after meeting with cabinet to discuss changing gun control laws. This alternate means that within ten days of this horrific act of terrorism we will have announced reforms, which will I believe make L community safer. Almost all weapons about ninety four percent of New Zealand's weapons on registered Illinois Whitehead is reporting from New Zealand for the economist makes an outlier kind of almost anywhere in the western world apart from the United States. So that means that you can kind of stockpile weapons. Brenton Tarrant had a license wasn't a prior offender. He wasn't police watch less that he was able to get a gun license and he owned semi automatic weapons. He was able to procure legally. So the question was clearly raised that he picked New Zealand naught, Australia because of the more permissive environment because it was easier for him to procure the weapons Boutros dues. Also, put a spotlight on white supremacists. As the prime minister knowledged on Friday, the attack through questions about how security agencies had failed spot a man who written extensively online about his beliefs and his intentions community and police focused on extremism of every kind give. Global indicators around five right extremism. Our intelligence community has been steeping up their investigations in this area. The individual charge with mood it head not come to the attention of the intelligence community, nor the police for extremism the man accused of the shooting a twenty eight year old named Brinton Harrison Tarrant appeared in court on Saturday. He's a stray leeann the judge route one murder charge and said Moore would likely follow. Meanwhile, people gathered across New Zealand to remember the victims. A massive outpouring public grief and sympathy. So you've had vigils of being held here and across the country. I was in Christ Church today where there was a vigil organized by some school-children secondary school children outside the larger of the two mosques that was attacked the one where most of the casualties were sustained the people. I'm speaking to just saying where the attacker had had clearly wanted to drive a wedge between the Muslim community and the white community of New Zealand. He's he's kind of achieved exactly the opposite of that before the shooting. No did people think that Australia New Zealand how to program with white supremacism yet? Look in easy Lund's. I think less people are sort of saying again, and again that they are surprise. There is some members of the Muslim community say yes on detains of Islam. Phobia and racism have been rising. But for the most part, they say, you know, what this is this is actually a very tolerant, very harmonious almost uniquely hunt. How many society, but Australia is very different. And I think that those of racism and Islam have become much more prevalent in public culture over the last two decades, the most the most obvious one is pulling Hanson. He's. A Senate to one nation, which is a populous party in Australia, and she's kind of complaining constantly about tax on western civilization about anti white racism, clearly invoking, the sort of nationalist white supremacists. Kind of language. She moved a motion in the parliament last year, which stated that it's okay to be white. There's another Senator in independent who cooled in his maiden speech in parliament for a final solution to immigration, so Nova some pretty extreme anti immigrant rhetoric in Australian politics, but there's a big difference between that and going into a mosque. Yes. It is. Indeed. But these people studying the far-right say that they believe what's happening is essentially, these fringe groups, and there's a diffuse number of kind of NIA Nasi, ethnic, nationalist, white supremacist groups in Australia, which do remain fringe up. But they have been. Legitimized to degree by this kind of discourse. And by the discourse in some of the conservative media was the next up in the police investigation and then presumably trial. So Brenton town has been charged with one count of murder. He's he's going to appear again before court in April, April the fifth where he faces where the question is. I was what's up more other charges will be brought against him because they will at theoretically, he could face fifty counts of murder because that is the death toll at the moment. Fifty other could still rise. He could also be charged with acts of terrorism clearly any of those could carry life sentences. Eleanor. Thank you. Thanks, john. The long screed against immigrants posted by the gunman online before the attack part of which was live streamed to viewers underlines the importance of social networks in radicalizing people and spreading hateful ideas. Violent. Wait extremists. Usa be distributed. Among small fringe, white supremacist groups that were actually organized fringe political organizations. Matt stained glass is reporting on far-right extremism for the economist. More recently white supremacist, violent ideology is more matter of diffuse chat rooms on the internet and people getting interested ideas, and it's less matter of actual organized groups that can be clearly tracked by law enforcement about can you tell us a bit about the manifesto, the shoot published and also the medium it was published on. I mean on the one hand you don't want to give too much publicity to this stuff on the other hand. It's kind of hard to understand his. Nation without looking at it. I think it's exactly right that you don't want to do the terrorist job for him by repeating his manifesto. But the ideas that are in it are so central to the current white supremacist movement that you really need to understand something about them to understand why he engaged in terrorism engaged in the titled has been festival the great replacement, and that is an idea that's been kicking around since the nineteen seventies. But his gained a lot of currency read recently that immigration to Europe and to white western countries by people from non western backgrounds isn't just a matter of people immigrating for their own reasons for economic reasons, but as part of the giant plot to replace white people with people of other races. It's very panicky paranoid conspiratorial way of you in the world, and it gives the white supremacists and excuse to engage in violence because allow. Them to picture people of other races who are moving to western countries as invaders need to be stopped. I haven't read seventy four pages of the manifesto, but the bits I've have read remind me quite a lot of the manifesto Dylann roof shooter in South Carolina in twenty fifteen who shot wash oppose the mother Emmanuel church boasted, very similar ideas about whites being replaced. Yeah. There are a lot of Larry's between what the New Zealand shooter road, and what road and also under spry in Norway road, and that coherence is possibly the most troubling thing about the ideas behind this attack. There's a common playbook available now to everybody in the global white supremacist movement. And these ideas are just at hand for anybody who wants to wants an excuse to pick up a gun and engage in political violence is it possible. Say anything meaningful about how wide spread this problem is from almost from police. Point of view. I mean on the one hand presumably, the number of people who prepared to take up and shoot total strangers for some crackpot theory is relatively small, but on the other hand, this shoot seems to spend a lot of time on web forums where these kind of ideas discussed whether a lot of people the scale of violent rightwing extremism is smaller than the scandal Islam extremism, but the unpredictable nature those attacks as as you say is what's troubling? There's a terrorism expert in Germany who has comp with an idea Daniel Kohler who's come up with an idea called high of terrorism, which is the sense that there are people lurking on chat groups, and you never know which of them is suddenly going to get it into his head that he ought to stop just saying nasty things on the internet and go out and take action, unquote. Which is exactly what this played out. If you look at the chats. Were going on on a chan- this board that he was frequenting he characterized as the moment to stop talking and start doing something. And I think there's a sense among security experts that the problem with this with this current type of white supremacist terrorism. Is you can't predict who is just out there saying obnoxious nonsense on the internet, and who might eventually actually go out and do something about
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"So many people, you know, some of them were screaming. This shooter recorded his rampage streaming it live on a social media for millions to see by the time. The suspected gunman arrived in a courtroom, Saturday his face blurred by law. We already knew his name Brenton Tarrant a twenty eight year old from Australia. He flashed a symbol of white power as he was charged with murder. President Trump under fire once again for the language he's using regarding white supremacy. Speaking with reporters after the suspected white supremacists. Killed fifty people at the mosques in disease and on Friday. Mr. Trump said he's not worried about a rise in global white supremacist movements. The suspected gunman in the attack mentions the president by name in his rambling seventy plus page manifesto writing the wall, he doesn't agree with Mr. Trump's policies. He does see him as a symbol of renewed white identity. Minnesota Senator and democratic presidential candidate Amy klobuchar. Speaking about the Jackson, the president's response on CNN state of the union, we have to make a major effort to figure out what's going on with these scripts. There has been an increase in hate crimes. Are there has been an increase in very negative rhetoric at groups on CBS is face today. Should acting White House chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, pushing back on what he suggests is. Blame game. He says the president is responding to the tragedy accordingly and takes issue with the criticism that the White House doesn't consider white nationalism. A growing threat the issue is how do you stop these crazy people whether or not there's one of them or four of them doesn't make a difference. If they're willing to go on live TV and stream the murder of people. So I think that's where the time is better spent instead of worrying about well who's to who's to blame. How do we stop from doing this move? Amy criticizing anyone trying to place blame on the president for the shootings like the one in New Zealand in New York Senator Kirsten gillibrand now the fourteenth democrat to announce her candidacy for the presidency in twenty twenty CBS is Ed O'Keefe with more competition in what's being considered the expected competition?.
Right-wing extremism in America: A growing threat?
"Be terrorists aren't labelled as such as something that I think is affecting our society, and we don't hold doesn't hold the same level of fear and hatred towards the terrorists that are committing these acts when person has a black or Brown skin. Daryl Christian mentioned, how more Americans have been killed on US soil by domestic groups than by quote, unquote, foreign jihadists, there was a study out in September that showed almost two. Thirds of the terror attacks in the US law steering 2017 carried out by right wing extremists. You worked in government in the department of homeland security is this a point that is knowledged by experts in the field within government. The politicians forget the Republicans in congress will the president's people analysts in government, do they notice this accepted across the board. Really not because a lot of the analysts have focused on international terrorism are totally in the dark when it comes to domestic non Islamic terrorism. So I think there's a lot of ignorance out there misunderstandings. It doesn't help. When you have government leaders and administrations that are putting forth the notion that the only form of terrorism are from those with Brown skin with funny sounding names who dress differently. So it needs to be acknowledged needs to be called out. And one of the things I've been trying to educate the public about is these acts that we often dismiss as. You know, hate crime or the act of a crazed gunman are in fact, ideologically motivated and meet the definition of terrorism and get cold terrorism by the media, and we'll come back to that. In a moment just on being ignored in government and not taken seriously you, of course, produced this report in two thousand nine for the at warning of a resurgent right wing extremism off to the election of the first black president after a financial crash lost e a piece for the Washington Post saying I won't of right wing violence in two thousand nine Republicans objected Iowa's, right? Tell us what happened in two thousand. And what did the Republicans? Do what does the Obama administration to because we have so much criticism of the Trump administration when it comes to tackling Fara extremes of what did the Beaumont should do with your report and with your unit? Well, unfortunately, it was a young administration. Janet Napolitano had just been sworn in secretary of homeland security. The report was published in the very beginning of April of two thousand. Nd eight or two thousand nine and so she had only been in her position for three months. The public affairs office was just getting up and running with its political appointees. So I think the media backlash from Fox News. And then the congressional backlash from the Republicans really caught the administration off guard. And then initially they tried to defend it. But then as the outcry from the conservatives and the Republicans grew they pretty much backed away from it and decided to just cave in to the political pressure and within the space of a year. According to your Washington Post piece, quote, they would know intelligence analysts DHS working on domestic terrorism threats punishing. Yeah. Basically we were put under pressure. I we were reassigned to do other analytical duties, they kind of told us in the interim, this is just going to be a short term temporary assignment. But then as the months drew on. And we started. In the handwriting on the wall that they were not going to reconstitute the effort, and it's a horrible way to vindicated, isn't it? You know, happy about being proved. Right. It's it's people you won't people years ago, even before Trump and people didn't listen to you. Yes. Very sobering. It's also very frustrating because you know, as an intelligence professional, I was trained to do my job. And I did it to the best of my ability and pretty much because of the political firestorm that ensued. The message got lost. So conservatives were not happy in two thousand nine two thousand ten with what you're saying Donald Trump becomes president. And you have a conservative president and a Republican party. That's even more bent on focusing on quote, unquote, Islamist Jihadist threats and not focusing on domestic extremists threats Christian your organization at the time life off to hate which you co-founded which helped Neo Nazis get out of the movement as you did. And we'll come to your story in a moment. But your organization had its funding cut as soon as Donald Trump became president. Didn't it he we we applied. For a grant under the Obama administration that was part of a d h s grant, and we had one it. We were going to develop an online intervention program to essentially intervene in situations. Just like the situation in Pittsburgh prior to those events happening so much radicalization is happening online. And then the administration changed we were patiently waiting for four hundred thousand dollar check out of the thirty one groups that were promised this grant came back in under Trump's administration that. The reassess the rules and out of the thirty one groups we were the only organization that was rescinded its funding and interesting in interestingly enough, we were the only organization that was completely focused on forwarding white supremacist recruitment. Well, so this is accidental stuff. This is willful this is intentional. Let me ask you this as someone who has moved out of the Neo Nazi far right movement. How important is it to have organizations like free radicals like life off to hate with funding from the government or anyone else providing some support to people who want to leave that movement to to who want to leave a life of hate behind. Well, I think it's critical. We have social services for for other parts of our society that are struggling that may be marginalized than just like the thousands of foreign fighters who will be coming back from places like Syria in the future. You know? We're facing a situation where we have potentially hundreds of thousands of young people who. Are now part of this white nationalist are all right movement who are going to need to find a way to to find support to to leave those types of movements in the future. It was very difficult for me to leave the white supremacist movement. When I was twenty three years old and ninety five. Because not because of the ideology I had questioned the ideology for the eight years that I was involved. What was difficult was leaving that sense of identity community and purpose behind it was all that I had known in my life. And that was the biggest roadblock for me, actually, disengaging and Christian when you look at someone like robot, bow is the alleged shooter in Pittsburgh who has a long history of kind of Neo Nazi like, an anti semitic and conspiratorial and hateful statements on social media. Do you look at him and say, wow, that someone potentially we could have helped. Absolutely. You know, in fact, most of the people that I work with and I've worked with, you know, hundreds help them disengage, you know, Bowers story is very typical of the people that I work with radicalized through online propaganda and conspiracy theories. Marginalized through most of their youth found a sense of identity and community in this movement. And because perhaps they may have no nothing else in their lives, and they may have felt powerless this brings him the power that they need, and when they decide to take to the next level and become a lone wolf or to act in the name of their ideology. There are lots of people like that out there there, you know, at one point in my life being a fairly well adjusted kid there were moments where I was stockpiling weapons and preparing for a race war and encouraging other people to do. So, you know, and there are people who gravitate to these movements because part of what the recruiters do is. They're looking for people that they can swoop in and promised paradise to essentially, and that's a common theme not just with white supremacist, but in all types of extremist movements. It's about painting the other as as you know, subhuman in Yvonne, and that must be eliminated. So when we talk about painting the other as evil. Let's cut to the chase. What role does the commander in chief the president of the United States? Donald Trump play in old of this this morning, Monday morning. He tweeted that he tweeted another attack on quote, the fake news media, the true enemy of the people equaled him. He also tweeted about invasion from this caravan from Honduras, an invasion of gang members and very bad people. This is what he tweeted all the worst attack on Jews in American history. Allegedly by a guy who believed this caravan was coming to invade us with terrorists and other people who were gonna change America. How is that? No incitement, Darryl tells them it is incitement, and I've been talking about this at least for the past three or four years about the tone of the rhetoric blaming the victims in this case by saying, well, if you would have had an armed guard in your synagogue, you could have prevented this attack from happening. That's the wrong answer. He needs to be. Deming the ideologies that create these fertile grounds for people to scapegoat and to target other people and to mobilize violence he needs to denounce the conspiracy theories rather than perpetuate them. He needs to change his language using words such as
"white supremacist movement" Discussed on KCRW
"Are at high AB of how open it is right now because it's not that hard to hide this stuff. The dog whistle is not that hard to get across the fact that they don't even feel the need to conceal it. Even that vaguely, what do you fear most? Well, I fear that you know, there will be one or two people in every state who start winning congressional races. Who say, yeah, why can't we just go back to being a white country? You know, why is that so wrong and to fight that is to be PC? Right. You know, part of what what Trump is able to do is just by lying so aggressively and so- full-throatedly unsociable Asli about stupid things. He's able to put people in this mindset, where racism is a meaningless word. You know? I'm seeing the racism right in front of me. And yet, I'm not registering it because it's my team, right? Because Ivan our next to my name, and they have our next to their name. I mean, I strongly believe that there are a lot of people in Iowa. Who if you ask them to think clearly about this. They would not stand for it. But because politics is turned into a team sport. They don't wanna think oh, can I really belong to this coalition. That includes this guy that I actually find odious. They don't want to go there. Andrew Marantz writes about many things for the. New Yorker, including the far-right white supremacist movement. Thank you very much. Ahead this hour. Jeffrey Toobin sits down to talk with Sally Yates twenty-seven year veteran of the Justice department and a ten day veteran of the Trump administration. And then what happens I was fired. You were fired by Donald Trump before it was fashionable. It's the New Yorker radio hour stick around. The.
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"Denison defense secretary james mattis's diplomacy remains the preferred method in dealing with north korea adding our diplomats our most effective when backed by credible military force in this sort of situation mattis speaking in south korea it appears the first charges have been filed in special counsel robert mowers probe into possible collusion between the trump campaign and russia in last year's election the wall street journal reporting at least one person could be taken into custody as early as monday but it's unclear who the target or targets might be to tennessee town's are bracing for white lives matter rallies today here park or the white supremacist movement you're not somebody that we won in tennessee governor bill has limbs as local and state officials we'll be prepared to respond to any potential problems that might arise during delays protests fox news we report you decide independent in thoughts and punk rock in life is the chad benson show the further of all because peers lethem reignited kennedy has been in dallas texas with president trump tweeting i will be allowing as president the long worked in classify jfk files to be opened the release of three thousand secret documents set into motion by congress the 1992 the dr jim is really from the fbi and cia may reveal more is was about the shooting in the killer lee harvey oswald and with holding some documents releasing twenty eight.
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"Seven seven and komonewscomfire were looking at to these top stories including from the komo news desk could the story out of barcelona spain public broadcaster there says a suspected the barcelona van attack has been arrested at least one is dead and thirty two others injured those totals are expected to bryce stateowned broadcaster rtd says a man was detained a few hours after a van drove into crowds and a popular las ramblas district police have not confirmed that arrest of private spanish news agency europa press reports police were looking for a man named driss or kabar the news agency said he was suspected of having rented a van connected to that at tac a white house spokeswoman says steve bannon is comments stand on their own in an interview with a liberal publication the american prospect president donald trump's chief strategist said there is no military solution to the threat posed by north korea just last week trump vowed to respond with fire and fury to north korean aggression in the interview bannon also describes the white supremacist movement as losers of fringe element at a collection of clowns president trump's response to the violence in charlottesville virginia has badly bruised his reputation with business leaders with me on the komando cited he's he's lana zak at washington nobody wanted this sounds like the whole thing became a case of you can't virus we quit what happened here very good raffarin yeah i the private and i we really damning bloodshed following ap resignation turkey reward of at nine on my way at well alcohol other armed ethnic leader advisory council their strategic empower people arm guiding among them belgrade they were going to defend predict lighthouse learnt the velvet and the pregnant hop on twitter very quickly impaired oh council you're fired so this was attended to advise it on how government policy impacts economic growth and for job creation and productivity in theory it sounds like it was a good idea but it really i think says something when these powerful people give up a seat at the table with the most powerful men in the world after rulli they are they were unequivocal agriculture perry about old at representative bear company that made breeder q and up in opposition to what day heard at inc remark on coming from the white house though are we hear that bad part of the.
"white supremacist movement" Discussed on KQED Radio
"We'll look at the history of white supremacists movements next time on here in this we will bring of the here and now program beginning at eleven o'clock this morning here on kqed it's followed at noon by the take away alleged abuses lead to new scrutiny of guestworker visas automatic fines for repeating the violation click b a new and tougher enforcement tactic the labor department case against one farm in arizona worker protection or immigration crackdown that's next time on the take away from wnyc and he ri public radio international the takeaway today beginning at noon we'll get a news update from npr now it's nineteen past six from npr news in washington i'm dave mattingly a memorial service is being held today in charlottesville virginia for the woman killed in last saturday's attack on a group of counterprotestors at a white supremacist rally nineteen others were injured when a car rammed into the crowd and ohio man is charged with second degree murder two people injured in that attack are suing rally organizers and the man accused of driving the car and pr is jeff brady says they're seeking three million dollars tator and washington and her sister majko oh we're driving home their usual route was blocked off at the got stuck in a crowd of counterprotesters their car was hit when james fields junior allegedly rammed his car into that crowd the sisters have been treated and released for physical injuries but their lawyer says they remain emotionally traumatized by what they saw british prime minister tony reza may is among those criticizing president trump's response to that attack in virginia and pierre's frank length fit is in london they insisted there could be no equivalence between fascists and their opponents have trump outrage even his own party leaders by blaming both sides following last week's violence in charlottesville other british politicians though took a much tougher line demanding an invitation to visit be rescinded member of parliament nia griffith of the opposition labour party tweeted a state visit by donald trump would shame this country and betray all we stand four i'm dave mattingly npr news in washington twenty minutes now passed six in.
"white supremacist movement" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"The white supremacy movement he also urged the president to think about new york values when he returns to his hometown today i hope he thinks about new yorkers and what we believe i alba thinks about the people i grew up with would never tolerate a white supremacist movement it would never tolerate innocent protestors being mowed down out of hatred the mayor says the president is now due to arrive at trump tower today and stay through wednesday night right he says the police department is well prepared but he also urged people to stay away from midtown of possible there will be street closures and random vehicles security checks new york governor andrew cuomo has passed new penalties for people who threaten communities spaces with explosives the new law signed early this morning was passed by the state legislature earlier this year in response to a string of bomb threats called into jewish community centers in new york and elsewhere in the country suspects accused of making bomb threats against a community center can now face a minimum sentence of up to a year in jail mexican drug lord joaquin el chapo guzman is set to appear in federal court in brooklyn today this man has pleaded not guilty to charges of running a drug trafficking cartel that laundered billions of dollars and oversaw murders and kidnappings he seeking to have his public defenders replaced by private lawyers like jeffrey lichtman who once represented organized crime boss john junior gotti and over has revved up its lobbying efforts during the first half of this year spending more than one point two million dollars to influence new york law makers the daily news reports about half of that went toward tv ads supporting a bill to allow ridesharing companies to operate upstate and on long island that measure passed as part of the state eight budget and has since gone into effect in june the company agreed to a ninety eight thousand dollars settlement with the joint commission on a public ethics for under reporting its lobbying expenses for the last two years seventy four degrees going up to about eighty two today.
"white supremacist movement" Discussed on The United States of Anxiety
"A federal report published this april itemised all the extremist attacks that involve fatalities in the us between nine eleven in the end of last year there were at least eighty five such incidents threequarters of them were carried out by people who espoused farright ideas of the sort you read on the daily stormer dylann roof red and posted to the daily stormer it was part of his radicalization james jackson the guy who came to manhattan this spring randomly kill black men and did kill timothy kaufman he told cops he'd been reading the daily storm or to all of this violence is just the most extreme evidence of this movement's impact on american culture so of course i wanted to meet the mind behind this website a tried several times to contact andrew england and he just never replied but the site speaks for itself indian pointed out something that really differentiates it in the outright marken if you're jerk google search on daily stormer look at the subculture daily stormer the world's most goal oriented republican website this is not about theorizing and hunt tiff accounting they are goal oriented it's about action indian found what is probably the most important part of the site okay this okay so welcome to the mean machine it's a billboard where they kick around ideas for trolling people and dropping red pills and then crowd source the necessary memes vodka trump was a hot topic on the day we looked at they do not like the influence they feel vaca in jared kushner are having on the president so here's the thinking behind why you should do these anti of on camps ivanka's the weakest link behind trump and kushner and the one that will make them hurt the most.
"white supremacist movement" Discussed on The United States of Anxiety
"But anyway sort of its has been a celebrity in something called the manas fear for years not so much for bashing black lives matter or ranting about jews he does those things but his main interest is creating self help media for men so to summarise yes there is a war against men it doesn't make a lot of sense to cry about wine about its war we've already lost any superpopular for this you can't really column of fringe character he self published an e book that spin out a couple of years now and when i checked just recently amazon still had it ranked in the top fifteen under health so he blogs and podcasts in tweets about stuff like how to beat her rape charge don't tell cop shit because that makes it hard to prove their case they might not even be able to prove you have sex even if you did gross but not technically a neonazi he says he's just a nationalist not a white nationalist in any case sort its is manas fear falls squarely under spencer's broad all right banner and here's where clinton's basket metaphor was actually appropriate an outright coalition you've got the far right libertarian switches who england was trying to reach when he troll been garrison you've got the conspiracy crowd around alex jones whose the superpopular radio hosts who trump loves you've got all those four chan and read it trolls who haven't fully attached to the politics yet and of course you've got a range of vowed white supremacists like richard spencer himself.
"white supremacist movement" Discussed on The United States of Anxiety
"A cairo right this is the united states of anxiety and we are travelling down the rabbit whole of today's white supremacist movement because we're trying to understand the media strategies this movement has used to manipulate american politics in recent years the name all right is credited to richard spencer a far far right activists who held a white nationalist conference in dc just a couple of weeks after trump's victory hell trump hannelore people hellevik three spencer's idea way back at the start of the obama presidency was to create an umbrella identity for a proliferating range of movements at the far end of conservativism a big tent alternative to traditional republicans like the bushes the old right was a rejection of mainstream conservatism just as much as it was a rejection of liberalism george w bush definitely inspired me to create something like your right just because i bought myself i am not ham of course not all of the movements that took up spencer's banner are as explicitly white nationalist as he is take our guy mike surge he's been widely profile for his role in creating what we now call fake news well hilary bill will democrat a great natalie but there are some serious concerns about a lot of things including her l a north carolina man arrested in a dc pizza shop after brandishing a gun telling police he was there to investigate a conspiracy theory called pizza game serve itch was the force behind these and other demonstrable laws and by the way donald trump jr says he deserves a pulitzer prize for telling them.
"white supremacist movement" Discussed on The United States of Anxiety
"Hi i'm amanda on check and the reporter here at wnyc an inner story about climate change we asked you to tell us about how climate change is taught at school with president trump pulling united states out of the paris climate accord how we talk about global warming with our kids seems even more important here is one of the people we heard from justice evening my son came home from school and middle said are we had a debate today in class on climate change and i live in a pretty liberal area at a pretty liberal school district and i felt like what are we going to debate next gravity and many teachers from all across the country also weighed in on how they handle challenges to the way that they teach climate change that that carter cycle and i said okay what were not every every conferred set the cycle in that you think it is a need that it should be company avoid looking at if i want them to understand and appreciate the process of science so that they can accept the findings of fine who can book down at an ice core and say look this is the fastest the climate has ever changed in the earth history i want them to be understand why that evidence is valid but it's not about believing are not believing in in we're not talking about the coup ferry you can read more about this on our website at wnyc dot org slash anxieties.
"white supremacist movement" Discussed on The United States of Anxiety
"So i was reading my bitch worry us reading these fantastic stories about being of vietnam vet who like to kill the enemy and then cut off their ears and put him on necklaces so it was kind of nazi hagiography like they were they were sort of turning you into a nazi hero yeah that's right rhetoric directly what they did for the created a evil dapo gang or ban and they call them cyclone dan because job in life was to murder jews murder blacks and your mason murder anybody who wasn't wife and anybody who wasn't a nazi i was going to kill him this went on for years but things got really bad right about two thousand fourteen there were multiple sake facebook profiles fake twitter accounts in fake photos of him posing in nazi uniforms he says someone even threatened an art gallery where he was showing his commercial work the owner close the show as a result been blames one person for all of this a young man named andrew angling you from an arch troll and i don't want people i don't like him good undue publicity but he is kind of emblematic of a lot of things that are going on on the internet these days with the strolling stuff andrew claimed that he could marshall his troll army and go after whatever target he wants and i was one of his targets because andrew england felt like i should be a nazi to uh so andrew england who is he end where did you get an army of trolls nobody has a clue how angel england became the bus red lights premises really neonazis site on the web that's heidi buyer to get she says when england launched his website called the daily stormer he was like garrison a total unknown and he's a young guy you know maybe thirty years old.
"white supremacist movement" Discussed on The United States of Anxiety
"In that when a big ominous pyramid representing the federal reserve hovers above some storm clouds below the clouds you see two legs a red republican leg a blue democrat leg and they're marching along kicking the voters a bipartisan march of tyranny on behalf of the evil money changers bins timing with this cartoon was perfect right is the tea party was kicking down the republican establishment store in two thousand ten but it went viral was seen all over the world and i started getting email from people old world translator company in spain translated into spanish but then something weird happened been started getting heat meal at a site like lots of it from people accused him of promoting some pretty extreme stuff ideas that he did not support i know we're coming from and i was busy with some simatupang retirement with my wife peter schieder from searching and found out it all went back to the board called fortune i never heard of it but when i looked at the border wall what they were doing i was like oh it's like incredulous somebody had stolen his artwork in changed it to turn it into neo nazi propaganda the inserted anti semitic slurs they turned the evil bankers into anti semitic caricatures and they even created a whole fake biography for the artist a whole new been garrison nazi instead of a libertarian it all spread like wildfire somebody even killed bit off in road him up as a kinda hate speech martyr.
"white supremacist movement" Discussed on The United States of Anxiety
"Listener support it w in y c studios we're dealing with a culture war that involves some really ugly stuff in language in ideas and inactions so if you're not in the space to hear that right now may be save this when for later but do listen this is the hallmark that everybody has to do tonight when the media the hoax media the clinton news network goes after people tomorrow you have to be locked in loaded with means the rolling stone this is mike cernan rich and he's addressing his followers on video the day before hillary clinton plans to give her infamous speech about donald trump their basket of deplorables tomorrow hillary is going to say there's this thing out there called the all right and they are racists neonazi antisemites she is going to clinton's team had said that she was going to go there and some of its wanted anyone who identified with the outright to be ready he already posted tons of these long rambling rands to the video sharing at periscope but this one is a call to action and how to for gaming the news media whenever we start asking questions about racism rule number one you need an answer for everything they're going to say to answer can't put you on the defense when they say the never play defense that's crucial races rule number two rubber your glue whenever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you.