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Marilyn Manson denies abuse allegations by Evan Rachel Wood
"That may have led to the increase in suicides. All Maryland, Manson's record label is letting him go following sexual abuse allegations. Loma Vista recordings announced the move Monday shortly after five women came forward to accuse the singer of sexual assault, psychological abuse and coercion. Among those accusing Manson is his former partner, Evan Rachel Wood, the star of the HBO, Westworld Syriza. She claims Manson began grooming her as a teenager
Actress Evan Rachel Wood accuses Marilyn Manson of abuse
"A popular musician has been dropped from his record label after being accused of sexual and other physical abuse the allegations against Marilyn Manson are being made by Evan Rachel wood ward who stars in Westworld has been speaking recently about being abused in a relationship but only now is calling down her alleged abuser in an Instagram post ward says the name of my abuser is Brian Warner also known to the world as Marilyn Manson she says Manson began grooming her when she was just a teen and says he horrifically abused her for years no immediate response from Manson but his record label has wasted no time the modest recording says in a statement in the wake of the disturbing allegations it will stop promoting Manson's current album and will no longer work with him or any future ones I'm Oscar wells Gabriel
Charles Yu Talks About Interior Chinatown
"Charles. You joins us now from irvine california. His latest novel is interior. Chinatown at just won the national book award for fiction. Charles thanks for being here. Thank you kremlin. I'm excited to be here and let's start with that. Winning the national book award. Your speech was so great. I just loved it because you used seemed genuinely surprised. Don't what was that moment like for you. I was genuinely surprised. I was screaming. As they're reading the citation my family. And i wear all sort of looking at each other and just yelling and we didn't know what to do and my son after while that i think you need to give a speech and so i sort of pulled myself together but i didn't really because then i proceeded to forget to thank my wife my kids and my parents so a half of whom were in the room with me. It was just awful. You know there's a fine tradition. Though i think of of leaving like the most important people out in acceptance speeches hoax out. I don't know. Do you think it would have been different. If it had been in real life. I guess it may must have been nice to even if you forgot to thank them at least have all those people. Those class close family members in the room with you. One of the weird unexpected. I guess benefits of having a virtual ceremony was that we got to hug each other immediately after and then change back into shorts. And why didn't you think you'd win. The chances are pretty good. When they're you know only a certain number of finalists. that's true. I suppose maybe underestimated the chances a little bit but i i don't know it just seems like something that happens to other people. Well it happened to you. I think deservedly. So this is your fourth book affection and they all have really amazing. Titles which i'm gonna read aloud. And then i love you to start. Walk us through them before we talk about this latest novel interior chinatown so the titles are third class superhero. How to live safely in a science fictional universe. And sorry please thank you which is a collection of stories. I mean just those titles thanks. I do enjoy titles. I wish there were a job where you could just title things. Maybe i'm trying to make up that job. I don't know what that would be exactly but yeah it's fun it helps me both. I think sometimes have a handle on what i'm trying to do and also i just imagined when somebody encounters that title. I'm hoping that they get that feeling of. Oh i want to flip to that page and see. What is that you know. It's funny when you say like you wish you could have a job coming up with. Titles i just feel like i have to bring up the fact that writing fiction is not your first job. It's not your only job that you started off as a corporate lawyer. How did you get from that life to this one. Well it took a while. I graduated from law school in two thousand one and as i was supposed to be studying for the bar I found myself in the bookstore instead. Reading george saunders and lorrimore and and people like that and and just kind of diving into the world of i guess contemporary fiction at that time and just getting really excited about it and i think also procrastinating from studying and so then i I started to write these sort of weird. The first thing i wrote was A love story. That is a set of physics problems like that you would find an undergraduate physics textbook Thought i don't know what this is but it's something to do you know on nights and weekends when i'm waiting for waiting for the senior associate to tell me all things did wrong in my merger agreement so severe that it. It'd be it was just this sort of thing. I was doing on the side for many years. And somehow i was creeping towards this. Tv land without even realizing it. Because a few years ago. I i was at work at the time working in house for a tech company as a lawyer and i got a call to come meet for potential spot on the writing staff of this show westworld and i thought well this is. This is not going to happen. And but somehow they hired me so so that was few years ago. And that's what i've been doing since as my day job
The Utah Monolith Has VANISHED
"An update on the monolith. You know the monolith the silver column that was discovered in the middle of a deserted cove in utah by government officials last week. Well i despite the state of utah not wanting to say exactly where it was that amateur hikers when an injure themselves trying to get to it the internet was of course able to locate it and some folks used earth historical imaging data to determine that the monolith has apparently been there since at least two thousand fifteen or sixteen. The monolith was located near the filming sites for several movies and tv shows including westworld indiana jones. The last crusade and one hundred twenty seven hours so the going theory now is that it was some type of prop at one point or may be placed there by a crew member for who knows what reason and specifically said was located because it's gone just completely vanished. Here's what utah's bureau of land management said. In a statement quote we have received credible reports that the illegally installed structure referred to as the monolith has been removed from bureau of land management or blm public lands by an unknown party. The blm did not remove the structure which is considered private property. We do not investigate crimes involving private property which are handled by the local sheriff's office the structure has received international national attention and we received reports that a person or group removed it on the evening of november twenty seventh and quotes according to the associated press. Several parties including the salt lake tribune have against the department of public. Safety's wishes traveled to the site and verified that it is indeed gone quoting the ap spencer owen of salt lake. City's said he saw the monolith. Friday afternoon encamped in the region overnight but as he hiked to the area again on saturday people passing them on the trail warned him. It was gone. The tribune reported when he arrived at the spot. All that was left was a triangular piece of metal covering a triangular shaped hole in the rocks ricardo marino and his girlfriend zero van meter were traveling from colorado to california on friday and decided to stop and see the object after finding the gps coordinates online on the way they passed a long bed truck with a large object in the back and he said he joked. Oh look there's the utah monolith right there. When they arrived at the spot it was gone and quotes. So maybe it was in that truck in an instagram post marino. Alleges that in the monoliths place was an inappropriate message. Written in the dirt and quote a fresh piece dane according to the guardian ever since it disappeared visitors have been stacking rocks in its place. I don't know if we'll ever know what happened to it why it was there who took it. Maybe it'll pop up on ebay soon. What a strange strange story
It's Time to Build
"Every western region was unprepared for the corona virus pandemic despite many prior warnings. This monumental failure of institutional effectiveness will reverberate for the rest of the decade. But it's not too early to ask why and what we need to do about it. Many of us would like to pin the cause on one political party or another on one government or another but the harsh reality is that it all failed. No Western country or state or city was prepared and despite hard work and often extraordinary sacrifice by many people within these institutions. So the problem runs deeper than your favorite political opponent or your home nation. Part of the problem is clearly foresight. A failure of imagination. But the other part of the problem is what we didn't do in advance and what we're failing to do now and that is a failure of action and specifically are widespread inability to build. We see today with the things we urgently need. But don't have we don't have enough corona virus tests or test materials including amazingly cotton swabs common reagents. We don't have enough ventilators negative pressure rooms in ICU. Beds and we don't have enough surgical masks shields and medical gowns as I write. This New York City has put out a desperate call for rain. Ponchos to be used as medical gowns. Rain Ponchos in twenty twenty in America. We also don't have therapies or a vaccine despite again years of advanced warning about bat born corona viruses. Our scientists will hopefully invent therapies Anna vaccine but then we may not have the manufacturing factories required to scale their production. And even then we'll see if we can deploy therapies for a vaccine fast enough to matter. It took scientists five years to get regulatory testing approval for the new Ebola Vaccine. After that scourges two thousand fourteen outbreak at the cost of many lives in the. Us We don't even have the ability to get federal bailout. Money TO THE PEOPLE AND BUSINESSES. That need it. Tens of millions of laid off workers and their families and many millions of small businesses are in serious trouble right now and we have no direct method to transfer them. Money without potentially disastrous. Doha's a government that collects money for all its citizens and businesses. Each year has never built a system to distribute to us. When it's needed most. Why do we not have these things? Medical Equipment and financial conduits involve no rocket science whatsoever at least therapies and vaccines are hard making masks and transferring. Money are not hard. We could have these things but we chose not to specifically. We chose not to have the mechanisms the factories the systems to make these things. We chose not to build. You don't just see this smoke. Complacency this satisfaction with the status quo and the unwillingness to build in the pelvic organ healthcare. Generally you see it throughout Western life specifically throughout in American life you see it in housing in the physical footprint of our cities. We can't build nearly enough housing inner cities with surging economic potential which results in crazily skyrocketing housing prices in places like San Francisco making it nearly impossible for regular people to move in and take the jobs of the future. We also can't build the cities themselves anymore. When the producers of HBO's Westworld wanted to portray the American city of the future? They didn't film in Seattle or Los Angeles or Austin they went to Singapore. We should have gleaming skyscrapers and spectacular living environments in all our cities at levels way beyond what we have. Now where are they you see it? In education we have top in universities. Yes but with the capacity to teach only a microscopic percentage of the four million new eighteen year olds in the US each year or the one hundred and twenty million new eighteen year olds in the world each year. Why not educate every eighteen year old? Isn't that the most important thing we can possibly do? One built a far larger number of universities or scale the once we have way up the last major innovation in k through twelve. Education was Montessori which traces back to the nineteen sixties. We've been doing education research this never reach practical deployment for fifty years
Carine Roitfelds Remarkable Fashion Career
"Wanted to start. I mean everyone by now knows you know all of the amazing things you've done in Russia but I wanted to start by asking you. What was your first fashion moment? When was the moment a kind of clicked with you that this was going to be? Calm your of her. It was time longtime ago. What fashion was not consider? It was today if you say I want to work in fashion. People think you are just superficial person and one. My mother was winning French L. Each week and I was watching French L. And the like it on the really like it. But how old were you at the time? I think I was maybe twelve years or something that and I like it. I don't pages and I really like it but it's my mom. Asked me what you want to do to save up to work in? Fashion will be impossible. Okay but the essence. Click Congress and I start with French. Ed Is that so your your career there and when you started at French how What was going on in fashion at that time. What do you remember? It was amazing because my God is seen some very old ladies. It was not. We were working with advertisers. So is not the advertisers in fashion. So last page of the magazine were just seem for knitting and it was very free and we're just going to French that say designers and there's a ton we to move to each designer to make some shopping so I take also Mitchell to go to jump on who to go to Shapur peak hours a great appear office so you will meet everyone. It was easier. Because you have not was not international was not instagram's he wasn't a tweet feet so you have to move yourself. Tudjuk laws and pickup yourself and you meet the designer Oldham. Who was your favorite designer? That you used to wear sheltered papa. He's fun and Chop Wa Eze only designers at took everything as that Fashion Kentucky but football movies everything and you never talk about himself and he makes me laugh on trump were recently. He did his last shows at that because I have two two. Gophers discover acronym state. But I was very happy for him and I seen it so always sadly someone who seek is. A huge talent was because settled stop by the city was white and he did something good people eat. Very what a very nice fire we say. I guess that thing that really changed your career and kind of took it to the next level was working. Tom Ford Right. I mean he's your become international. Yeah it pushed me to speak English. Yeah yes how did you meet him? So long story was working with. Mario Testino at the time and Tom Brady was lawsuit of our assessment equals mini mini mini. Tom's to see him. And you see what is good? She we stop for which he just Apollo for. We're not interested to work for Gucci to US blowing right and that he tom Com to the studio were shooting in summer. And we're just finding westworld. Chumming so sexy. We decide to what we didn't just because he was chummy and Thomas you could be farish arming. It goes a long way right and fashion to be good with people and to be persistent. He's twenty five years. I'm working with stone. Yeah so friendship could be possible in fashion. Tom So I start with. Zinni was the first time I never did consulting before we may not know what was about you know and I work with into I compare with me and after did all this show for Tom. Olga cheese and some of son-in-law and keep using. Wow and do you have any particular angry that you think was like most kind of emblematic of that time with working with Tom in those early days of Gucci? Is there one image that you created together that one you major people forgot Twas NOT SURI FOR BUCCI was back company no SOS even for. She worked deserves a with bags bags back. Spa Lady about was part of the look and I remember I think it was. The first design not put so many bags on one way and use a single in for me. He opened William. My is it was. I note to put so often on diversity series no one show is not gossip call off as he guards God because he saw his girls are beauty. Ernie plus my customer could be Black Mukasa Maccabi Chinese so I want them to be happy to look to dream about the clothes that keeps ago. Twas her you know is hoping my mind but Jeez yeah yes. He was witty several no subtle but in the same of quitter party and we guarantee for men and boys as he was dumb and then. I know we're we're moving through your career choice quickly because there's so much to talk about but I mean your tenure for ten years at Paris folk was a defining moment. I think obviously I think your even your own personal sense of style was so reflected in the pages of that magazine and it really became mean. Your style became kind of equated with the style of French women everywhere around the world right. So what were you when you first took on that role F. French vogue I mean what was that like. I think John was very nice and crazy to give his job. Because I never do anything was ever necessarily said new jobs. So many people forty people to take care is a lot of responsibility. You know when you talk about career. Maybe something very important to people you meet in. You Live Dawar timing so I won as you say was Tom. Maybe before Tom. It was Mario because the ones that makes me understand let alone distant meet in fashion after it was Tom. And after the third one was Genita- open mitigate of French vogue and Jonathon. Let me do everything I want. Honesty give me. It was like a golden cage but I can do everything and I think because this was good and I think I'm making love it. Would he loves me do everything I want and when you're looking at fogs. He tweeted. Meaning you have to cigarette. Newton Boorda all these amazing photographer and for the eighty to ensure that push him. You know seriously this was fearless and now it's all this picture arts museum but today it would be impossible to print newton big show. Boredom picture will be very difficult because why because today it will say all because of mature be off too much nudity. GotTa Too Young. We see too much sex. We see the helps pubis She is a very small freedom sitcoms that we have today and fortunately and do you think some of that is for good. There's some there's been a lot of changes with regards the way we think about young models and the pressure to put they put under so in a way some of the changes a good. Yeah I totally agree with you me with the modal hours. Think about them like a mama so I don't think it was one model. Don't call don't be naked. Putu Kotonu hours very predictive eat. They could teak. I'm very predictive with modern but as with to put exam and You know were smoking. Smoking is a great gesture for fashion. But at the time my father was spooking. Jesmond was spooky was ways we smoke. We didn't know it was bad for thirty years. We U- secret impression today. We noticed that good so we try not to cigarettes in fashion and to a lot of singles and even we keep learning. You know what I put to Alabama Muslim scarf on the cover of magazine and after two pusher to do shows I understand something because she asked black private cabin for is like a sewer. She was ways you notice. She's boring what she asked for that. Okay do for our. We did over affinity. She was wide and I saw all these naked guards photographer taking pictures he. She's what this is not placebo. So now I say or Offer to ever out when to stop to address if I didn't think this way so also people open you eyes
Red carpet called off for London premiere of 'Mulan'
"Disney as scaled back its European premiere of Moulana cancelling the red carpet event and all the stars and productive. People that we're going to go over there. For the premiere it was going to be in London and Leicester Square greeting tonight. Which is Thursday? Evening would have been tonight.
Disney Postpones Releases of ‘Mulan,’ ‘The New Mutants’ and ‘Antlers’
"News for coronavirus fallout in the entertainment tonight show and Seth Meyers late show both suspending production for now through at least the end of the month Disney delaying the release of MoveOn which was supposed to open March twenty seventh and was tracking for the biggest opening of the year so far Disney also postponing the April third release of the Marvel Comics based the new mutants in the sci fi horror film antlers the studio says it's looking for other dates later this year at the box office this weekend there are actually three gonna come here right now the controversial violent satire the hunt will compete with vin diesel superhero military thriller bloodshot also opening the faith based drama I still believe but Pixar's onward should spend a second weekend number one watching on TV this weekend long awaited third season of Westworld debuts on HBO Erin Paul Lena Waithe among those
COVID-19: How coronavirus is sending the entertainment industry into uncharted territory
"About to corona viruses responsible for bringing pretty much anything we do for entertainment two oh two is to is to a halt Disneyland Disney world theme parks closing that's all of them yeah Broadway told Broadway shows were shuttered movie movies that were supposed to be premiering aren't without a laundering by the high I think the hunt so yeah but yeah but I don't know we are people going to go to movie theaters that's the problem right now I don't think that mostly I don't I think mostly people will not go to movie theaters thank god Westworld's coming back yes more than a hundred and thirty five four thousand five hundred people have been infected globally over four thousand nine hundred people have died according to a Reuters tally of government announcements mainland China had a trying to had eight new cases yesterday but that was down from fifteen cases a day earlier and and it's been shrinking shrinking shrinking the total number of cases in mainland China although eighty thousand eight hundred and thirteen and the death toll was well over three thousand Poland has reported its first death from corona virus Greece has its first Italy they've walked down the country the corona virus epidemic a shot past the thousand as the economic impact worsened was that you
The Last of Us on HBO - Everything we know so far
"In other exclusive Sony News. It was announced that there is going to be last of US TV show from the writer creator of Chernobyl And it's going to be working with like Neil Diamond's going along with them It seems like really just sort of everyone kind of came together on this What I WANT. I want to hear the story behind this. Because Shannon would who plays Dina and loss of US potter apparently introduced Neil Druckman to. Oh yeah okay. She's on Westworld on it. She is and she introduce them. And I'd I'd love to kind of hear about those Ille- chats because the sky Craig Mazin was. Is that how you show no? I hopefully soon. If you haven't seen sure noble go watch it. 'cause it's like says very good easing very good. I'm like a huge horror fan and that was probably my my favorite piece of media around horror last year which was terrifying. Because there's no monster it's just invisible. Poison the yeah. It's super creepy and real. Yeah but it turns out a craig is also a big Fan of last of us and it was weird kind of one of those like. Oh It's a nice twitter romance. Where like him and Neil to start tweeting at each other back and forth and then gradually I guess they just sort of actually talking about doing this. Yeah What's interesting about? This specifically is the this effectively cancels out the long in production. How movie that they were working on that. Neil Druckman openly tweeted like about a year ago and they said like we have a script he was like. I haven't seen it right. So good luck out. There was one of those like that. Movie was sort of neck and neck with uncharted for awhile in terms of like who is making. This is actually happening. This is getting kicked to fifteen different writers and directors. Every six weeks it was in development hell constantly and so this will play. This is the they've gone down to especially in terms of everyone's a little bit. I understand the concern or of attending something like the loss of us into a different format because it it works so well as a piece of interactive media particularly when it comes to that sort of end twist where you realize that the character you are controlling spoilers. Sorry sorry yeah massive spoilers. The character you're controlling isn't necessarily the guy thought he was and that is a very pal that was a very powerful moment in the game for me and you're not necessarily going to be able to replicate that in a shower or film but I do think that there are so many other avenues at a show in particular could take that world into. Yeah I think there's a lot more room for world building their Mike Concerns. Are that this unlike. You just alluded to. I think if you're a huge fan of the game you have that story already. That story was told you in the medium that you I received it in and having that reinterpreted through cinema is a kind of thinom cinema. You can't say cinema. You have to say Susannah. Oh you like Salem. I only watch cinema on it. It could. It could be kind of like weird offloading because you're sort of that reverse uncanny valley. Yeah sadly not to say that. Yeah because all of a sudden you're looking at something and you're like that's not the character that I imagine the this way you have to do this voice. This is the way you have to do this character. Like people have already been asking for the Ashley Johnson and Troy Baker to play these characters and like that doesn't work because they does not solve that so profoundly doesn't work. Yeah yeah if they don't Johnson is not a kid no no exactly troy. Baker is not. He's not a crusty old man Yeah I mean but I'm still really excited. I do think that as a story. The loss of us is one of the very few stories that can actually shoulder an HBO adaptation. I think that is one of the most we will while mature storytelling director of Muslim. Thin them off but like it is it is. It is voices to their cinema. We're getting too silly. You'll see in the three colors trilogy. No I only walked three Ninjas kick back in the cinema saying anyway very miserable storytelling dot. So I think it's right and I was. I was sort of wondering whether that they would actually like focus on different carriages. Hope yes like we do. There's there's a quote here from like Hollywood reporter said the. Hbo Series Will Cover The events of the original game which was written by Druckman with the possibility of additional content based on the forthcoming game sequel. The last part two. Yeah and it'll be Joel and Ellie story with some deal. We're not just Hypothesis hypothesizing here. It's not going to be Joel and Ellie. It is and reiterated by Craig. Ooh instead of saying when he said that Elliot is going to be gay in the NFL. We know that Elliot's actually going to be the focus. Yeah I think this this also just one thing on this. I do really think it it. It's going to be made or broken by its core. Two are like whoever they cost. I think so far a lot of the speculation that has been really wildly off Because people will kind of forget that we are focusing on. How old was early in the game she was. I think it and I'm probably wrong. I Apologize Response at an auction. I'm trying to think that because she's she's nineteen in the sequel and that is five years later. If I'm right possible to do that math. We'll have to this on this show whether it's five years. I'm not sure wouldn't know God I've taught myself. I'm just seeing the Youtube comments pouring down. But she's she's young kid she's only just like interim kind of teenagehood she's very very young and I personally would love to see an unknown in that role like like a lot of people have to do the casting where it's like. Who Does the character look like? And it's like well that doesn't really the whole point of acting is to behave like someone else regardless of how you might look and you know. Obviously there's I mean we. We saw this recently with the witcher casting where people like. That's not my Jennifer and then the show came out and for the most part like this is actually pretty good. This they nailed it. They did a good job. And what's based on why it's there is of course that thing where you you look at it. Whatever the show is there will inevitably be people. Were like well. I don't know how I feel about it. It's not what I wanted.
Westworld S1E8 Recap
"Westworld season one episode eight trace decay. Ford brings been on active status and instantly breaks tailed. Ford says he ordered him to kill trees or in order to protect the hosts. He Promises Bernard that he will erase his memories of his relationship with Theresa including his partner. Death wants Benard covers up the murder we see Bernard paint himself out of security footage and remove all evidence of the presence from his apartment before his memories wiped. Benard asks Ford if he's ever made him home anyone else. Ford says no just as been odd sees himself strangling elsie but is instantly forced to forget. Thanks to Bernard speedy work. To raise bodies discovered in the ravine. Where the woodcutter host was found alongside. The satellite uplink cheesed. Send data out of the park. The medical team did you. She was trying to reach a high point to transmit the data then slipped and fell so a death ruled an accident with this news Ford announces. That Theresa Altered Clementines coat to make Bernardo incompetent in light of the revelations been audited reinstated as head of behavior in the influence of Theresa's. Qa Department is limited Charlotte Hale is forced to accept the official story despite knowing that something more is going on elsewhere in the facility may still having trouble distinguishing between her memories. In real life flitting between her passed on the farmer the daughter and live at the Mariposa but the new host playing clementines role and the Body Repair Lab she tells Felix and Sylvester that she still intends to escape because relationships with their daughter and clementine adjust ways of trapping in the park may gets Felix and Silvester to agree to grunts her administrative privileges so she can control the hosts as well as to remove the explosive failsafe in his spine. That would stop her in any of the host leaving the park to do that. She needs to be taken to behavior and shut down so west. The hatches a plan to y Maes. Programming Wash is offline and Phoenix reluctantly. Agrees to go along with it while exploring the Canyon at the edge of the Park William and Dolores find the sole survivor of a group of confederate. Does that were attacked by the ghost. Nation the dying soldier admits that Logan then new recruits told the confederate does my own laws trained so they can ambush and kill them. Deloris goes to get them on water but sees a vision of her body lying in the river still tracking Wyatt's teddy in the men in black. Find the bodies of a group of settlers with one survivor. This host is Angela. The host we saw. Welcome in William and other guests the park a very different role the men in black recognizes and says. He thought she'd have been decommissioned by now. Angela tells them white men kill everyone but they're attacked by a wholly-owned man with axe that seems to be immune to their bullets. The man in black tries to strangle the creature which triggers teddy to remember the money black attacking delores in a previous storyline. Eventually jolts back to reality and uses the creatures. Oh next to kill him. The man in black congratulates Teddy leading them to Wyatt but teddy knocks him out. With a barrel of his gun now fully aware of how his harm Dolores back in the facility Mavis successfully smuggled into behavior but when Sylvester orders phillies to wipe programming instead sides with maeve emboldened by a new administrative. Privileges may cut Sylvester's throat and orders Felix to close the wound back in the park. She tests her abilities by successfully controlling other hosts even getting host. Ken Each Other on command. With Theresa Gone Charlotte's enlists Lee Sizemore to smuggle data from the park. She takes him down to cold storage. And Upload Data into Peter Abernathy. The original host plane Delors. His father lease tasked with building a personality for Peter so he can leave Westwood on the train with human guests at Delors and William continue on the road. They reach a site where a town once stood and Dolores. His vision get more intense. She flits between memories. Seeing hosts like maeve armistice being trained before Lawrence daughter asks if she's found what she's looking for then a vision of Dolores starts shooting people in the streets than raises a gun to a head realizing the arnold wanted to remember something. Dolores breaks down in tears and questions. Her Reality William Decides to return to sweetwater for the sake of a fragile mind but they're intercepted by Logan in the confederate does on the road. Logan isn't the only one book infinite lowers after tying up the money black teddy interrogates him about Delors his whereabouts instead the money beat reveals that he came to Westworld after his wife kill the self and his daughter rejected him as they both since the dawn is within him to test if he was truly evil he killed. Maven her daughter. Borscht them dine plot of land. Plant a little by the maze. At that moment the man in black began pursuing what he believes to be a game created by Arnold. The death of Maeve doors was life changing for her to in more ways than one as May prepares to actually the park. She remembers being attacked by the money and black and I spent he kills Clementine causing Westwood Security. To come in
The Best Movie Soundtrack Songs Of 2019 | Movies
"I have a very special show today later. In this podcast I have an interview with Robbie Robertson one of the founding members of the band a significant figure in movie history as well. Who HAS COLLABORATED WITH? Martin Scorsese over the years. He has a new documentary that he participated in the basically tells the story of his life and the work of the band called. Once were brothers so I hope you'll stick around for that and inspired by that conversation. I had to invite on Ringer Staff Writer Rob Villa. Who is one of the funniest and smartest people I know about music? I Rob She's we'll thank you. It's an honor to be here of course alot rob you write about music and movies at the ringer as well and quite deftly and I think the use of music in movies has always been frankly an obsession of mine and I suspect that you are also a sophisticated thinker about this idea. Is that fair to say? Sophisticated is a strong word. But let's go with your role with your a guy who has a functioning brain that watches movies with music in them. Is that fair to say Aisha's? Amd during sonic the HEDGEHOG. That's the way I would describe my relationship with music and movies me I was that guy I feel like there's a lot we know there's a there's a conscientiousness about choosing songs in movies now because we grew up watching scorsese movies and then the movies of all the people who watched. Martin Scorsese movies and start making movies of their own and so the use of the pop song. We're not talking about score here. We're talking about pop music appearing in films you know what is your. What is your sense of? Who Does it well and sort of what goes into making a good choice for something that's really obvious or really obscure. I think the obviousness I see a lot more in prestige. Tv generally like that's the plate. Like any use of radiohead. Almost across the board. Like I I like a lot of Westworld but just the way that Westworld is uses those pop songs you know the old style piano version of pop songs. It's just you're just sort of leaching off that songs energy like the the cash that it already has and you're just sort of stealing and implanting it into your TV show or your movie like it's there's a difference between stealing a song soul and like taking a song and building a new universe around it like sort of recreating it in re-energizing it it's a it's a great point. I'll never forget the moment I watched the pilot of Ozark. Which is the last the last episode of ours. Ozark that I've ever watched and at the end of it Decks dark by radiohead began playing and I was like. Oh this is that JOE now. I mean no disrespect to say Chris Ryan. Who's a huge fan of that series but actually that choice indicated to me what the creators of the show thought they were doing and it wasn't for me you know it just didn't Didn't click with what despite liking radiohead and Jason Bateman and. I knew that there was a pretentiousness that I was not going to connect with their What do you think makes for a good song choice in a movie? I think it has to be at least a little unexpected. It has to re- contextual. Is it a little bit like I? There are instances where obviousness is what you need and I think there are a few of those and my list here but I I think. In general you need some element of surprise some just more gratuitous are just more surprising way of using it than what you would expect. Do you think it's important to saying something about character or the scene itself or because one of the things that that Robertson said when he and I talked which I thought was interesting was the he really likes the contrast he moments. That's the moment when you take a very sweet song. Said it against a very violent moment or you take a very sweet moment and give it something more braces and that's obviously a hallmark of a lot of the people that are best known for choosing songs and movies you know. Think of Quentin Tarantino or fincher. Scorsese are all these people that I talk about endlessly on this show. Do you think that the that music can play such a profound role in telling a story in that way? I think so. I mean you can go too far in that the phenomenon of every movie trailer now using like a really slow down creepy version of a pop song like you think. Fight THE FI. The fifty shades of grey beyond say series. You know like I suicide squad. I think did that. You know you can go too far in that direction and and just use it entirely as irony like. Here's a really sweet song to contrast with an ugly thing. But Yeah I mean. That's that's sort of an overused tropes at this point at the time in the heyday in the early reign of those people those directors like. Yeah that was a really effective use of contrast. So we're here to do a top five list. You'RE GONNA share your five favorite needle drops in movies and I'M GONNA share my five favorite needle drops. Now I don't know your picks and you don't know my picks you almost ruined this podcast by accidentally sharing those picks and I would like you. I'm I apologize profusely and I apologize for my choices. I think this is going to be yelling at me in the next twenty minutes. That's my concern. You know what my concern is is just being too basic right. There are some things that are sort of undeniably signature moments in movies and music especially in the last twenty to twenty five years when when I think this phenomenon has really picked up. Steam and my choices are not songs that were written for movies. They are entirely songs that had previously existed before the film came along. Is that true for you too? I think in all but one case my number five. That's not true but I think that's an important thing that you have to have a prior. Ideally you have a prior relationship with that song that the movie changes. That's what makes a really good moment for me. Not all of them but that's the platonic ideal. I absolutely love that. I probably have one song that that is out runs an opposition to that idea. But that's a great
Seahawks' Marshawn Lynch has 'pretty substantial role' in upcoming season of 'Westworld'
"Hp's Oh that's marshawn lynch heading to HBO. He is going to be in Westworld. That's right former. Running back is now an actor. Wes World premiered Thursday in the trailer. The trailer premier Thursday. I should say in the trailer seahawks. Running back was the in the scene. We don't know yet how big his role will be but HBO has said that it will be a fun and pretty substantial role so we get more beast mode just in a different
Disneyland fanatics can now take a college course on the theme park
"Their other properties out there that recognize that, hey, you know what maybe even though this was originally for kids. It's no longer for kids. And I'm thinking about this galaxy's edge. Star Wars theme park. I've been saying for fifteen years as a Star Wars themed, bargain, now, they've actually put it together, but it's kind of funny because it's it seems like it's specifically only trying to cater towards adults in a way elements in there where you like, okay if you're a kid, you can have a good time, you know, corral, you around the, you know, these big pavilions, but if you're an adult there was a bit of an issue line because they wouldn't allow a dull toward costumes and the theme park this. Yeah. If you're over fourteen you're not allowed to wear like Qasr play worthy costumes, in the theme park because you're going to essentially compete with the costume the actors, they have higher doing and mostly, like sort of like with, with, with this with galaxy's edge. I think it's really interesting about it is, it's like one part, theme park and one part like Westworld like immersive experience fantasy kit is. Exactly. That's exactly it. And so I feel like that appeal of it being adults. I do definitely feel like that's intentional. And yeah. Because it is at thing of like there's such going aid. You wanna walk around in, in a Star Wars world for three or four hours, what, what, what, what kid wouldn't wanna be like, sure? Yeah. Just I don't even need to go on a ride. I'll just like hang out in Cantina for a while. But that was the problem that a lot of the more adult like super fans hat, right? Okay. That was what they wanted to do. But Disney was like, you know, we can't be in a position where we're liable for Darth maul working some six year old crazy bullshit, also, you know, they don't want fans taking pictures with other fans, you know because that's a money market for them. Right. You gotta take a photo with our Darth maul take a photo with that. Darth, Waller, whatever festival stuff. I get from a business standpoint, and I would hope that these forty five year olds were getting butthurt about that would realize, like, hey, as cool as that would be. Yeah. There are several very reasonable reasons. I can't go and dress Darth maul in Disneyland.
Checking out Samsung's foldable phone
"Hiring is challenging, but there's one place you can go. We're hiring is simple. And smart that place is ZipRecruiter. Where growing businesses connect to qualified candidates. Try it for free at ZipRecruiter dot com slash tech talk. Ziprecruiter, the smartest way to hire. There's a new phone from Samsung, it's sells for nearly two thousand dollars. It's called the fold and bunch of people have been pretty wild by it, including our friends away Blumenthal in Ed begged from USA today who have put this into their hands and actually played with it. Ed, let's start with you. Why do we care about this two thousand dollar foldable phone? Well, part of the reason we care there. Been a lot of stagnation in the Mark phone business over the last several years where you know, a lot of copycats phones. And so all of us have been looking for something different. And whatever you end up thinking about this thing, it is different now ally tell everybody how impressed you were. And while you were to point it's something different that that's what's impressive about the the idea that when it's closed it a regular phone, and then you open it up, and you have a seven point three inch tablet in one device is very futuristic mic in something I on an HP as Westworld and. Something that seems straight out of that a futuristic scifi show. Don't they? So you guys got basically one inch more of real estate from foldable phone how big a deal is that Esther inch. Well, it's funny 'cause we we laid it on top of an ipad mini in the in the porn factor. Very I mean the screen size. Very similar I and we haven't done this yet. But I could see your your commuting with this thing. You're reading a book on it. You might be watching, you know, catching up on game of thrones. You miss last night. You you could certainly do something like that very comfortably with this screen size. Neither one of us. I think would wowed by as a quote, unquote smartphone. When you have ADT folded, but Inteva form and again, whether it's worth to grant or not as a whole nother question. But in Tampa form, it's pretty nice. Yeah. I'd agree with that. I mean for me my phone, I have a TV. But my phone is where I watched the bulk of of my video and. And having went to starting to just you know, an inch larger knife own tennis MAC is six point five inches. So this compared to that is, you know, left inch larger, but it's not it's not just about the size. It seems with the display. So this is a much larger display in terms of not just the diagonal length. But also the vertical height. Okay. So it's right. Nine thousand nine hundred nineteen hundred in eighty dollars of vailable win and it available on April twenty six. All right. So this the foldable phone will be out soon. From Samsung dot your two grand. You've been listening to talking tech. I'm Jefferson Graham on here with the allied Blumenthal in at beg. I'm at Jefferson cram, and is at at beg and allies at ally. Boom fall on Twitter. All right. You listen to talking tech wherever you listen to online audio please subscribe to the show please rate and review us, and I'll be back tomorrow with another quick hit from the world attack. Thanks for listening. Hiring used to be hard. It was and still is one of the biggest challenges businesses face before it meant dealing with endless stacks of resumes flipping through them. And hoping the perfect candidate would jump out at you and the manual review process wasn't any easier. But in today's high tech world hiring can be easy. And you only have to go to one place to get it done. Ziprecruiter dot com slash tech, talk with their powerful matching technology. Ziprecruiter scans thousands of resumes to find the most qualified contenders for your job. And actively invites them to apply. Ziprecruiter is so effective that four out of five employers who post on the site get a qualified candidate within the first day and right now talking tech listeners can try ZipRecruiter for free at this exclusive web address, ZipRecruiter dot com slash tech talk. That's ZipRecruiter dot com slash T. E C H T A L K, ZipRecruiter dot com slash tech talk. Ziprecruiter, the smartest way to hire.
Emilio Estevez Talks New Movie:The Public
"There's a movie now called the public which I think everybody should see it's about a public library and sit in that takes place with the homeless people that are there. But why should I talk about it? When I have the director writer producer and star. You must be exhausted. Amelia, I am. I am here is anyway Amelia. Thank you. Thank you for being so much extra. So you know, we talked a little bit before about how you seem to disappear in the right people who are interviewing now are always saying if that was the last movie you made was the breakfast club. Right. True. True. His back in the library after thirty five years. Imagine that they never thirty five years. Yes. True. But you this one really did take some time for you to get launched. It took. In fact, this week is the is the anniversary of the twelve years that it's where I began this this this started April first two thousand seven it began with the LA times arriving at the house. I open it up. I read an article written by librarian who was retiring from Salt Lake City is named chip ward. And the piece was about how libraries had become defacto homeless shelters and Halliburton's were now tasked with being first responders and effectively being defacto social workers. And so I was really moved by the piece I had done the bulk of my research for Bobby down at the at the downtown branch public library. And so I went back to the library to see if it wasn't fact every bit as bad as. Mr. ward was talking about. And of course, it was not localized to Salt Lake City. This was happening in Los Angeles and in really every urban library across the country. And so I started imagining what it would look like if the patrons most of whom were homeless and some of whom are mentally ill. What if they stayed in old fashioned sixties protests? What would that look like on a particularly cold night? They decided we're not leaving how would law enforcement react. How would the press spin that? And how might oh politician who is in the middle of an election cycle. How might he use that event and change their for political gain? You hear about that? And you think oh, there's a sit in its the public library, and I'm not knocking any documentaries that are made about it. You know, who wasteman or actually his great. It's about this. But in order for an audience to be paying attention. You can't give them a sermon and say you can't. Should be doing this. No, it can't be didactic. It can't you can't beat the audience over the head. It is. I didn't make a what someone called a kale salad kill salads. Good free. And you should eat it. I don't want it. Yeah. So so I think this is more like a gluten free cheesecake continue to food analogy wanna see that post. This movie is a rule in free. She. But but we've we're on a thirty city tour. I've taken the film from Seattle down the coast cross the country, we screened at libraries at at at the convention Llabres convention in New Orleans. We did it in up in Seattle at the at the midwinter conference screen it for a homeless advocacy groups screened in homeless shelters, and what's what has been so gratifying for me as a filmmaker is to watch the story unfold for the people I made it for this movie celebrates the misfits and the outcast and the marginalized and the poor and they're seeing themselves on screen and there. Wow. That's that's me. That's and it's inspiring them. They're feeling empowered as they see it. And so that is ultimately who I made the movie for so it's it's been quite a ride, and I believe worth every bit of the twelve years that I've invested in in this like. Just because how many days did you actually have to shoot it? So will you know? What it takes to take independent movie this day and a half? Right. But it takes twelve years to get exactly you're in twenty three days. Again, was I had to be very well prepped, and it was a feat really of the editor of this film because the movie has an enormous cast. And it had we had to make it look like they were all there at the same time. And so you reach out the Jeffrey. A lot of the more are now. Right. So Alec Baldwin. You've got for five days Jeffrey Wright comes in and out of shooting Westworld. And he's got six days and Taylor shillings in the middle of doing oranges, a new black and she's got four days. So and you're looking at everybody schedule, and you're thinking don't they understand don't they get it? But actors they don't unless you've directed. You. Don't totally understand what the director is is going through trying to make all that. And I don't bring any of that stress to the set. I don't they never know what's going on
Students Skip School Across Europe to Demand Climate Action
"Students in the UK are demanding that their government declare a climate emergency. Secondary school students marching in Manchester England today, they're part of a growing movement students from around the world walking out of school to demand much stronger action on climate change, thousands of young people also gathered in parliament square in London and in Liverpool. Eighteen year old Abby super Manian organiz his school student walkout. Honestly, the turnout was even greater than we expected. We only really started organizing liberal about three days ago, and obviously it's very difficult to go to essentially schools and say walk lessons. Disobey literally everything you patterns in teachers are saying because this is what is like when Houghton and we've had a absolutely fantastic reception here in the UK. Thousands of kids out across the country. And what did you do this? Why did you organize? So this whole movement started with a fifteen year old girl in Sweden. Tonsberg who basically went on strike from school and sat outside the speech parliament, and since then she's gone on to speak at the United Nations, and she's gone on to speak at the World Economic Forum in Davos where she addresses the assembled leaders in industry leaders adults. Keep saying we owe it to the young people to give them hope. But I don't want your health. I don't want you to be hopeful. I want you to panic. I wanted to feel the fair I feel every day. And then I want you to act. I wanted to act as if the house was on fire. Because it is. So that's really what brought me into this. I've been talking to loads of children around my city. I honestly big really energized and enthused by the glazing commitment, the amazing enthusiasm that so many children is under fire showing for that matter. And this issue was your school supportive your school in Liverpool. What I think we find the receptionist is that teachers pilot me really supportive of us, obviously, there's a bit of classroom management. But generally speaking, the feeling from teachers on the ground some students has been really positive. I think in fact next month on fifteen March they should be school scheduled. The United States to Abbas out. So yeah, I was gonna ask you. Are you connected to young climate change activists in the United States? So being lateral organisation has connections with international we've coordinating between international organizations. We're all colonizing separately. But under the same banner, and coordinating our strikes to be on same day much momentum lead us now. I don't know if you saw this, but Prime Minister Theresa May's Downing Street officers said it's really important for young people to engage on serious issues like climate change. But don't disrupt the class schedule as a result. What's your reaction to that statement? And that is that it's not like climate change issues recognize we don't know that they exist. Gather every couple of years to talk at climate change conference, right. The problem is the conference in the United Kingdom in the United States across the Westworld on taking concrete enough snaps in order to take action on these problems us having to start from school. We don't want to strike from. So we want to go to school. We want we want our educations. But as like mentioned what what's the point getting an education if we won't have a future. Thank you. The reason I know thank you. You really aren't doing enough. What difference will these protests today really make? I mean, do you see this as a rising wave that can change the world? Yes. I mean, I personally think that this is it is absolutely amazing to see hundreds of thousands of children across the world in succession educating themselves on the issues and going on to Mark measures. I think as we strike mounted it puts more pressure on world governments to take action to make concrete proposals. Because I think they're starting to realize that young people will be silence and won't be both off with any half-measures or goody two deals that they don't really enforce you mad at adults for not leading more firmly on this. Honestly, I am my generation is going to be the fascination in human history and then tie history of mankind. That will be poorer less vegetated and have a lowest standard of like every other banal parents which. Has never happened before in the entire history. The generation sliding before us has to the world. Such an extent that it's it's up to us to say that we will have live on in the
Jimmy Kimmel Jokes About California Wildfires
"Powerful Jimmy Kimmel last night was talking about the wildfire is out in LA and was talking about the bachelor men mansion being affected by the wildfire burned Down down. a number of famous movie and TV sets including the set of Westworld. And the bachelor mansion was partially destroyed the guest house burned down, but the main house is okay. You know, usually when something spreads like wildfire at the bachelor mansion, it's herpes. So this.
"westworld" Discussed on Westworld: The Recappables
"To like factory settings and they're going to be drawn to each other and then you also have made daughter and may still separated which you have like maeve was ar maeve yeah but maeve i think that you have connections between all three it's like this rock paper scissors connecting them on any any dissenting opinions i agree i think that was good by i think it was good bye yeah i think that the door is always there is just going to have to live forever onto into eternity with smart and final version maeve that's i think that's just the deal she made is like gallison's new me is like i don't know vaughn's i think she seems pretty good i lo anything i don't like they just look at it but the idea is that the valley they just have the same head do value beyond can be whatever you want it to be like if i'm hanging out with a key to like this is awesome right because he's a brilliant dude had a great story and we'll continue to move on to bigger and better things i kind of feel like maize daughters got the short end of the stick because like her mom is kind of one note like she's not going to imagine that much great stuff the house again and then that's going to be it you don't know or don't shortselling here we talked teddy for two seconds teddy we ford and bernard in his head just said that free will is the ability to change your cornerstones teddy's cornerstone is to keep dolores safe but in westworld we've been told us larry timeout are you gonna argue that teddy is going to be all i'm saying is if you can relate stone yeah if he can change his cornerstone cornerstone keep lewis in westworld now he's in time out totally different thing the argument is not that teddy has volition or whatever else the argument is this was saying goodbye to those characters no saying they don't want to leave they closed the door they warped them off outerspace we may see them again but it's not a it's not about character i mean i think that's it i think that's a rat for beyond your out farewell says okay any other lingering questions about the the juliet it's its own weird way of like one of the most straightforward pizzas episode yeah no i think that's it i think you've got to read it straight i think that you know i that's that's sort of one that's what you know from like all jonathan nolan's i'll you know hoover up to this point is that he does that you know there are moments of great sentimentality and that the and we should sort of take those at face value no maybe not maybe this maybe this will prove to be an exception we have to move on the next big thing in the show was the new headquarters the new age q is what i'm calling arnold's basement deloris gets out with a brain full of with a brain full of the bag full of brains rain balls and she goes to arnold old house and where they charlotte and they have a human printer and they she she makes herself again so that she can put her own business presumably back in her head we don't know who is in charlotte's head and then she builds bernard and search training bernard so that they can be they can start this battle of good and evil or whatever these to these two opposing forces as host takeover the new world is is first of all is there somebody in charlotte said that isn't charlotte or is there some like like easily controllable reproduction of charlotte is dolores into bodies what your guests mike i mean like okay so out of the five brain bowls that were in her purse right we know at least one of them was bernard that's the only one we know for sure and we have there's no telling what the other four were i mean like maybe it's hector charlotte's head maybe it's armistice may be it's like i have no idea why got in and i don't think that it's even worth guessing i feel like this is going to be a question that read it's already answered as we're having this conversation because is it like it would just be the.
"westworld" Discussed on Westworld: The Recappables
"Real people brains in host bodies if they succeed are actually just unions okay we'll see the philosophy for when so we have we have this after this episode we have one more all we have left is the finale then our daily westworld philosophy bhai guests rethink ables yeah exactly cart anyway that we will be back on tuesday with a regular ten episode and then following that we are going to have a live show on sunday immediately after the finale there will be a video component presumably podcast that will come out really shortly thereafter harris co you yeah all the all the video channels dispose signed me up for shaun i've signed you up to be monitored twenty four seven by video and you'll be forced to create westworld content during those entire periods would be great if we didn't actually put it on the stage and if i was being filmed in my home surreptitiously and you're like as the rizza ringer live show and it's just me and danny on separate couches just being really sad crying and eating oreos or something i don't know brain scanner in your hat right now how did you cry when i eat oreos what's what we all do thank you guys for listening sean thank you for coming pleasure to any thank you for being you we'll see you back here on tuesday and get hype for the finale audio siamese our theme song was made by our friends at song fench dot com check out song venture to turn your stories memories and feelings into a one of a kind song by professional musicians and makes the perfect gift for any occasion song fench dot com.
"westworld" Discussed on Westworld: The Recappables
"To speak in that she becomes this completely she looks at her relationships as just pinning her to the chains of humanity and her feelings for teddy are chains or she going to kind of do the roundabout that did that those feelings are important i miss teddy and and double down into those feelings accept sorrow and pain yeah and that really will just take what her character does so if but if she goes against the willingness to feel pain and i imagine she'll become the villain of like the series it's not yeah i mean she had her big moment i mean she had a very human moment and this is as much as she sort of made the decision to become why more this season than you know the farmer's daughter whatever i mean she has now to make the decision of what to do with that that pain brian we're all of her choices justified does she question this episode in particular kept asking is making these choices to begin with these choices ever mind to begin with do you guys think it's right that the only character whose purpose we really understand at the stage of the story is bernard well because i don't know where maeve and dolores and the man in black i don't know what their questing towards now maeve seemingly at the end of requests she found her daughter and her daughter is being protected in theory and you know maybe wanna go out and spend some time with her or something but that was her quest now maybe she goes on her own a new quest to get out of the world deloris either wants to blow up the valley i think wants to go out of the world you know after after right roy westworld but maybe that's undermined by the texture yeah i think that bernard from i mean the most one of the most interesting things about sort of the second half of the season is that bernard was just as much as he's you can't deny that he's a main character the show but he's just been totally sublimated not just as a you know i mean literally it's he is ford's proxy for trying living through him and in this episode i mean he made the big choice to you know stay to.
"westworld" Discussed on Westworld: The Recappables
"See that they were found floating in is in fact the valley beyond they have so much to button up in the season finale hopefully the do it all won't be doing it all this show has to continue but well my real tinfoil hat the question is what is season three season three still in westworld and after a whole lot of talking about how the everyone needs to go beyond westworld it doesn't feel like they'll be in westworld for season three i would talk about that next week put a but put a pin in that for now okay we got a lot more to get through in this episode maeve and ford we talked about a little bit do we think made is just going to be like the see the cerebral i mean she just she going to be lying on this table controlling things or or did her when she started sort of rewriting our own code after talking afford is she going to be like the mummy she going to be walking around with giant like you know guts spilling out and it doesn't matter i hope they resolve that issue i think it's interesting ready grotesque if all those things you've seen this show for some reason her like neck being flayed open in every single scene it's very re animator very sort of like eighties deep definitely the one okay eighties i hope they resolve that i think that because they showed another character with the power that she developed over this season she has to go to another level in terms of water power is what that will mean i don't know if she becomes cerebral great reference i'm not sure that that really taps into tanny newton skillset i'm not sure either but the fact that they've proved that her power is re replicate replicable does sort of take a little bit out of what makes special everything she's gotta figure out something else that is hers i mean we know that we're gonna get to more sure we'll probably have a maeve versus clementine showdown and like you know brains exploding as they like but against each other a derailment but i did think that was a really cool scene oh yeah that.
"westworld" Discussed on Westworld: The Recappables
"I don't necessarily think he's done good things i think that that they just made this a very operatic moment where viewing his profile was meant to trigger one of the most significant moments in the story yeah you know her evil and i think just knowing that that's the person that you're with i mean she was she hated him before she hit not hated them she had issues with him earlier that night but then seeing the confirmation that not only that he doesn't belong to her but the revelation that he is utterly different person for most of his life for the part of his life that he cares about that's that's it do we think ultimately in his real life he's kind of a milk toast guy i mean he's i mean i think that he probably coasting at this point and a lot of ways you know i mean he was he was a you know literally world changing businessmen and now he's just sort of you know doing his doing his giving money to charity spending a lot of time out of the office presumably or depending if you define westworld as the office i think the problem is we have to ask and that you've asked that question and they spend the first scene in this episode trying to be like oh look he's a bookworm and he grew up poor and well he had to read a kid oh no and like you i think a lot of that stuff emotionally like didn't land and i i really have enjoyed a lot of stories this season but i think that this story did not land emotionally for me as much as i would have thought it would if you told me what it was going to be in this episode because one they're showing that and you're playing videos at the same time like learning functionally what this like credit laugh delo value customer car does yeah the profile videos and like i just shouldn't be wondering what's going to happen the same it's supposed to be emotionally but then also i kind of wish that i knew who william wasn't at seen him as a kid or seen that transition and that we have to ask whether he's a normal rich guy or like if he's actually faked it this whole time we just have.
"westworld" Discussed on Westworld: The Recappables
"Of their break they're they're both of their breakdowns and she accused she told him that you ate you know snuck into this family and you broke his one by one or whatever do we think that that's accurate as i hear it as that's a question for pretty damaged family to begin af for sure it's certainly plausible that someone infiltrated the family took advantage of some of their emotional mrs but i couldn't really figure out if we were supposed to feel like ultimately william is the devil is a villain in the scenario or if he is just like another failing emotionally stunted rich guy who doesn't pay attention to his family i think that from what we've seen young william jimmy simpsons character does seem to be sort of evil infiltrator in a lot of ways but it's clear they like ed harris in the outside world is just a broken person and that it is in so much as it's his fault what happened to his wife it's not because of maliciousness it's because he's lost his himself in this hapless endeavor and he's been absent yeah yeah for sure i mean it's all his fault i mean so it's a whole it's all about defining fault or whatever but but it's not you know i think he's he's he's gotten everything he wanted from his infiltration if that were true now it's just his lack of compassion that's that's the villain let me ask you both an important question this is related to the flashback do you think there's something ultimately morally reprehensible about what william does in westworld that then ultimately triggers juliet's decision do you think if you saw someone that you cared for deeply luoyang heinous things to robots but i think that was a confirmation of what he said which was like i was never yours i was always always belonged to westward that was the tragedy she's it's not i mean there's dolores and that's i mean but i.
"westworld" Discussed on Westworld: The Recappables
"To is he talking about maeve i think you could also just or west fork li it's about westworld creation or all of the worlds are all of the hosts are are his children i don't know i i don't i don't think it says much of a leap to imagine that she's his favorite because we have known that there's been something special about shares episode one of the show he did choose her for that mission last season and everything so it's not it's not completely out of whack i just think that delors was such a such a central and idealized figure in the show through the first ten episodes and then obviously things went left and he clearly seemed to have some sense that she would be the one to turn on him at the end of the season finale of season one so you would have thought up until i dunno some point in this season dolores is the number one but i don't know mavis maeve is is on a chrysler journey it also makes a little bit i mean it gives a little bit of extra to the hatred that ford has for the man in black or for william if indeed he like you know just maliciously murdered assaulted ford's favorite host as she was just chilling out with her daughter on the prairie well he also did that delors repeatedly so you know six one half dozen of the other yeah yeah it's true let's just before we move on let's just just get to brass tacks but what we learned from all the flashbacks we were in a party that is either a birthday party or retirement party maybe at the party's actually just celebrating the philanthropy that keeps getting mentioned that he gave a lot of money some causes that emily endorsed or some nonprofit she was running or something although she seemed to be able to get out of that party in a hurry which probably wouldn't be the case if it was just a if it was really about her charities but anyway and we know that it oh seal award is i mean juliet is you know has some mental issues some alcoholism issues and and is when we kind of sauce some echoes of that in her brother whether different things brought him out but at the end of the day william did is the cause.
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"Really cool episode but you know the decision making is kind of hard to parse this one is more stable the main in black for season one was the central mystery of the show whether or not we knew it as we were watching and the same thing is true of this season were we know now right the show ins this episode ends with teddy shooting himself in the head that's cool the most central thing that happened in the show was the scene before that that ended with the man in black cutting his arm open to see if he's a host right is that the most relevant thing that we still don't yet know about him i think that if there was any question about its relevance that seem answered answered it full you guys have been talking about that on the show basically all season you know you've been wondering whether he is one or isn't one whether he it was him in the bathtub and then he he has not him in the bathtub it was not him in the bath of sergey danny goal that hope that that was having another bathtub that would be terrible ending i will you don't know that he's not but no i think what this episode established that was really important is that is the host to see human is he what like kind of doesn't really matter it's more about that he's having to he had to get to this question and it's just driven completely mad and it's more about what that actually means and does that just because you're human does that mean you are real and i think what this episode posited very clearly was that well you can be human but that doesn't mean you're not like faking lying son of a bitch and if you actually go back to his first scene where he ever enters westworld he enters with logan and logan goes to do some orgy thing and angela introduces william to the whole world and he's just staring at her and she says if you wanna ask ask and he says are you real and she says if you can't tell does it matter yeah and that idea has permeated throughout the entire show this are we got a pretty resident answer in this episode which is yes very clearly it matters so i think it's more speaking to that he's lost the ability to tell.
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"The party and they make plans that have nightcap later oh yeah the julia getting tipsy which feels like a thing fell running for store this you're not saving william then goes into the bar where your account straight no hey there's ford who complements williams philanthropy william reminds into they have an agreement delo stays out of your stories you stay out of the valley but ford says he didn't break the agreement williams project did what are you talking about williams says finally returning to a season when role is the audience stand in ford says something ominous recording guest info insides williams profile card across the bar who i'm like i've got the receipts enough game says william and ford is like nice guy games final game after the party william and drunk juliet reminiscent fight she calls him a virus and a phony emily shows up and says we have to go back to the rehab center and william takes off to bed if you keep pretending you're not going to remember who you are she says and william puts his profile card into a book for safe keeping not a good idea and goes downstairs to drink and emily makes plans to have mom committed and as they're talking drip drip drip there's a leak in the ceiling and we all know what that means it means suicide meanwhile in westworld william and emily or at a rally point where he suffering from getting shot to back and she's waiting for the dallas crew to rescue them she was too late to rescue rescuer mom but she's still may have time to help her dad's she says he's skeptical he still thinks she's part of ford's game an emmy brings up his little experiment his pursuit of mortality and she says she wants but he's like no that's not the daughter i know she's like no it's actually really interesting but how are you scanning everybody and here's the big reveal i guess the scanner was in their cowboy hats all along image their minds throughout their stage where's the scanner built in william is straight up losing it though he's not seeming terribly shot up at the.
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"Strike them shits Westworld, recap, Ables host, David shoemaker, it's ten foil, Tuesday. I'm joined as always by the librarian. Fending me off from setting this whole ablaze. It's mica Peters, how you doing man. Listen, you have to keep your inside voice if you're going to be in this library and you definitely can't here. I'll say this very quietly. I'm also joined by the last analog devices in the digital world. Danny, how you doing. My head is full. Shit. All right. You know the hashtag shit that ain't where to start off on the right foot, very divisive episode of of Westworld this week in the ring offices. I'm, I don't think the world at large really, really had that sort of a mixed opinion. But if you wanna know the hater say, you can listen to the wash this week. And if you wanna know what the die hard. True believers. Thank keep listening right now. They've been excommunicated. There was there was a lot of talk. I think that the biggest issue came down to the to the timelines, and I will say in the interest of full disclosure that. Ten minutes before we recorded this week's previous episode, I made Danny come into my office and explained to me win how we where the timeline jump happened. Because it was confusing just in the sense that are two separate timelines are conceivably like forty, five minutes apart. I mean, they're more than that. It's a week or something, but they're, but they're fair with the, you know, strands in one and Bernard is wearing a different outfit, I think. But aside from that sort of indistinguishable, I was trying to explain like very shiny tinfoil hat to about like what I think about the cradle, and you're just like, wait, what day is it in the first? Yeah. From the torturing Bernard seen to a flash forward in just sort of a quick hand wave. And I think and I had just been looking down at my laptop when that hand wave happens where I was like, what the heck is, where are we yet? And that's the thing is visit was at a time jump forward or back after they waterboarded backwards. Yeah, yes. Okay. It's bookended by the same time line the most advanced time line like two weeks, eleven days, whatever after the massacre at the gala. And then we kinda just go from that to week earlier and then into the cradle, and then back into it's kind of like a nice little you. Yeah. And that's the way they do that. A lot is not the way that I would describe it looks away. Upfront. This is the episode where we go into crazy theories and spoilers and not. We don't know anything about the show but speculation about the future. So if you're not into that stuff will be to you, but listen, we, we will talk about these time this time line situation. If you draw it out, it's a pretty straightforward, familiar timely. I mean, structure of show from what they've done compared to what they've done before. The difference here is at the time lines are getting closer and closer together, and that makes it, you know, a little bit more difficult to wrap one's mind around and this one, the one that's week after the gala in two weeks after the gala, we're in the same actual location that. So if you were texting or whatever, not paying ten. Three seconds. Yeah, then I understand how you have been like viscerally confused. Yeah, it was. It was. It was very, I think I think it's safe to say that whatever they, you know, whatever the creators of Westworld intended they, they could have been a little bit more over the top with that with that, that scene fade. But all that said in some ways, this was the most straightforward episode of Westworld, because if you get rid of the book ends, it was just the attack on, you know, bellows warehouse nine or whatever it was. It was a show about Dolores on the horde, just rampaging through the Mesa, and there was in other half was, you know, Bernardin Ford in the cradle Chilin talking deep philosophy. But you know, I thought that. I mean, I love this episode. The first time I saw, I thought it was fantastic. The people liked it less. I can kind of see where they're coming from, but I think at the end of the day, this is a mystery box show and and uncorking these mysteries is the joy of it. And if you're looking for something else, you know, maybe this as isn't meant for you isn't the joy of discovering story discovering the any for yourself. The quote, but it's something like that. Definitely is the joy. All right. Listen, we're here to talk about the REEs we hear talk about craziness Danny heights. Watch service kale us some toasty hot takes from the red at world yet, so we can start as always with where I messed up because that's always where we end up. Oh, yeah, correction. So first of Mike and I last week we're trying to remember some chocolate candy. The control units reminded us of literally dozens of tweets, shouting from the rooftops wonder, vol's 'wonder-ball wonder balls. That's all. Thank you. Thank you, genuine. We should named the podcast, the wonderful, an update, Olympia Tracy, and Deborah fight pointed out to me. Twitter HBO updated the subtitles from last week. We're used to say, hail speaking. It now says Elsie. Wow. So they've updated that. I don't think that. Changes anything? No, of course not. It's just either just a degree, GIS mistake or like a me, ten dimension chests we keep coming. Yeah. The thing that that will see over and over again with this show is when you're dealing with mysteries, whatever you wanna call him as intricate as as these, there's no real way for the show runners to know which ones are gonna land. You know which ones are going to be like immediately perceptible to the audience and which ones are going to be the things that we realize where there two months from now. So yeah, I mean, it makes sense if they planned it all along as just a little Easter Egger a hint or whatever that they would have left their of. Nobody noticed in the fact that everybody did means they had to take action. But that doesn't mean it wasn't on purpose. Yeah, we can get. It wasn't accident. You know it it. It hardly matters. It's just as part of part of the fabric of this weird experience. So. Mike, assign. No, I'm not. I'm sighing, but also it's, it's just kind of like going back to the chew said about, like is it just gaffer as tenth dimensional chess in it's almost tired of answering questions. Yeah, it's true. So what did you get lender wrong? What no wonder yet. We couldn't think of Wonderbulles that's changed. And the last one I messed up for as you guys know. Sometimes I don't always pronounce names correct. Heard that I wondered aloud how to pronounce e. n. for quite some time corrected you on its own. I wanna personally apologised who is very, very gracious about it. So yeah, is Owen. I confuse a lot of skyer Shaw Scottish Irish things in the show. So perpetual policies for all those of offended in the UK. Now onto theories. Okay. So. This was a good one from puddle ducks. Big acts, not like ducks in a puddle, but puddle ducks. I don't really know. I think it's just like a creative way to make ducks plural really duck plural. We don't need to explain anyways. So that could be a whole separate thing? Yeah. Now we know Dolores don't like countless fidelity tests with Bernard and all the years. So obviously the implication is that the opening scene, we see in the first episode of the first of the season, and the first seen before were Delors is doing the fidelity test Bernard. It seems that that would be her training him, right? Uh-huh. But what if that's a head fake and that scene is still taking place in the future, and she is trying to basically test whether he's the same person, whether Delo and stranded people have messed with him or that still taking place in the future? Yeah. That was my I read on the opening scene in the show was was taking place in the future and her she was trying to awaken all the other hosts or the ones that she deemed worthy of continued existence. Yeah, I buy into that still still with that. Doesn't that complicate the in game a little bit. I mean, because if if the if the objective is to eventually get out of the park and to, you know, Dino beat the humans on their own turf, and we are the ideal life form while bubble blah than what then like what it. What setting is this conversation taking place? Like, what? What does it matter? I think that that's probably expecting a little bit too much of if I would say expecting too much the show, but also if it's true, it's the show expecting a little bit too much the audience. I mean that scene half the despite what I just when my assumption was. That scene was paid off. When we found out this episode that that Dolores had been working with Bernard to make him like Arnold. Right. I mean, that's the logical like pay off of that scene. So it would seem weird to do kind of like an end reverse like a double fake out with it. Right? Yeah. I mean, because when when Bernardin and enforcer in the cradle and Ford is talking about, yeah, we did your tests in this house because when Arnold die, the only person that like all that was less were mad memories and Dolores has memory. So she's the oldest hosts apart so that they're doing those fidelity tests than that is. I think that we can just stop there with, you know, like what's happening in that scene. Yeah. And if we come back around, I mean, maybe maybe we'll come back around to it, but for now I think that's enough. I don't hate that theory. I just think that it's like it's, it's maybe it's unnecessary at the moment. Yeah, will become back that. Okay. A little more Bernard from Andy, Herman, who through this to me on Twitter and also blessed with four ages black on red. It pronounced Owen.
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"Yeah, I'm trying to the logistics of that are a little bit complicated as are most things in Westworld? Danny, what's your theory? I self the doors, but I think it's interesting to look at the full cool from Ford which said they want fidelity Bernard, a faithful self portrait of the most murderous species since time began, but you all the others are something very different and original work more just more noble. You're very nature insures. They will devour you and all the beauty of who you are, who you could be could be poured out into the darkness forever unless we open the door. And that's really interesting. So in terms of what the actual door is, I think, I think obviously this over all around life and death it to a certain degree, I don't think it's going to go much beyond that, but I think this actually pits Bernard for a confrontation with William. I think that they've been, I think, in retrospect, will say that they were on a collision course. We just don't know it yet, but this been a lot of foreshadowing to them having some type of conflict. But William definitely does represent the most murders species and all this awful stuff. And I definitely think the him and Bernard are going to be collision. There's actually really interesting moment in the season finale of season one where while Ford's giving his final speech William walks past Bernard with a drink and they don't recognize each other, but then they walk past in William looks back at him and then keeps going. And the Bernard looks back. Him and then keeps going. And it's a really like really weird intentional choice that they kind of missed each other in that season. Finale. But I kind of feel the episode, nine or ten of the season they're going to be dead on. Yeah, there's a lot of a lot of potential rivalries are a lot of pension potential showdown set up this. Now we got some showdowns we'll we'll come back to keys before we get to showdowns. I want to run through a couple of stupid questions that we've touched on some of them, but just like we get the lay out the basics here. So the cradle we have an idea of what that was now. Although Ford again declined to define it in when given the opportunity. But I think we, I mean, it's the backups roll. The hosts, literally is the back of the house and it's where they all run the same routines over and over again so that they can test out there glitches for they before they go out in the real world, correct, or go west road to massive simulator, Kate, you have any simulator thoughts? No, I think I think I have a pretty good grasp of what the cradle is, but Ford could only survive there if he can't idea. Was that if he came into the real world at the end zone host, then he would one step further, the control unit that Bernard took in the flashbacks in brought to Ford that was Ford's own consciousness that he then, and that's just the red ball, right? Danny the red ball got put into the cradle. So he put the red ball into the storage into the the, the server annouce afford can live in the cradle. But if he comes out in his own host, he's gonna degrade just like Jim delegated. So he did and he left the cradle in this episode we, yeah, taking this one step at a time if he were to have had his own host and just been tried to just go back into the real world after he was shot. He would have degraded over a period of time just like Jim Dallas, but he can keep going in the Crato because he doesn't. There's no other variables present everything else in the cradle is a control. Yes, my okay, this, that that makes a lot of sense. All right. So then he jumps into Bernard's head, we believe to sort of like pay back onto his. Consciousness, and that will work, I guess. So I don't. I don't know if the show has like a consistent logic there, though. There must be. I mean, I, I have faith in and that's why I'm spending time parsing it out, but I don't, but it is a little bit weird that he, I mean, this e- everything seems very like like laid out in mechanical and then four jumping into Bernard's head feels very, like like fantasy novel. So in season one, the first time we don't even know it's the kid version of Ford, but the first time Ford encounters the kid host version of that. We see Hewlett freezes a rattlesnake and the kids like, how did you do that? And Ford's like everything in this world is magic except to the magician. Right? And we talked before about how a certain level of computers and technology with the difference between technology and magic. There really isn't one, and I think that in this situation, like how does the cradle specifically work? How Ford specifically his mind. We can sit here and debate like, oh, maybe he's taken over the bi-cameral part of Bernard's brain and like he can tell them what to do or maybe he's all in there. And it's the two of them. I don't know all four told us what he was doing a degree and he's magician, and we just have to trust that what he
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"Hugh the flames that sinful Tuesday on Westworld recap Ables. This is the show where we acknowledged areas for only human after all, and briefly indulge, and the internet conspiracy theories the week today were diving deeper into season two episode for the riddle of the spanks. I'm your host David shoemaker, and I am joined as I am every Tuesday, why the ringers mica Peters and tell me that was a host and out of human. I think it was both Danny hyphen. Are you doing? I'm doing mica, but we, we should say of the time you have your another podcast starting today we should. We should promote actually, Carl, it's called on shuffle. It's just a podcast about the we're listening to right now. You know, I'm gonna talk to some smart people about some good music. It's fantastic. Is the ringers first full time for music podcasting, and that's a big deal for all of us. And I, I hear the pilot. It was fantastic. I can't wait for the real thing. All right. Mike, just educated me on young dolph. I can't believe you didn't know about that already, but that's the the last segment of this show is going to be mica and Danny in a in a straight up like Dolores and Bernard dinar DeLores and Arnold sow debriefing where Danny tries to explain his love for j Cole and Mike tries to explain to him what. Often chains. Let's talk about Westworld banks guys. This was a hell of an episode it was, but before we can even get to the episode, we have to get to read it because Lisa joy, the creator of the show. Andy director of this episode. Did an ask me anything on Reddit today in AMA as is. Is calm. And in the first answer she gave, she gave an answer basically, personally detailed for you, David for me, yes. Literally for you. The scariest premise, I think of go ahead. She actually said that our philosophy from the beginning was to lay out the major ten poll moments, Ford's death, Dolores transformation Bernard's discovery. But the ultimate meeting of the story, the destination or path has always been leading starting back in nineteen ninety eight when the undertaker through mankind off Helena, sell sixteen feet in announcer's table what that is. Literally what Lisa choice that. Telling Joe real. Too much. Well, if I'm sure everyone listening every. Lisa joy here. I'm. That Jesus was also a host. Thank you. Everybody lives probably knows. I'm a wrestling podcast and writer version foremost, and that's sort of mind blowing even as a joke. I don't expect. I don't expect my my favorite show runners to be engaging with my professional wrestling fandom. So that's quite a treat. Thank you. Lisa joy for making me feel slightly less like a nerd or more like a nerd for one fleeting moment, Savarese civic set of requisites to go for the for the rest of the season. Now I want to know if you see any like wrestling themes going on here, wrestling themes in everything. Everything is wrestling Danny. Have you been reading the New York Times up at page for the best. All right. That's really fantastic shots. Lisa joy shows Mick Foley the undertaker. A new that Jim Ross, who made that that moment, legendary. We need someone's gonna start making Jim Ross like by God tracks over Westworld videos, and it's going to be fantastic anyway, as simple Tuesday, what do we do? We mess up on anything this week on Sundays, five cast. I don't think we missed a ton. We've been accused of messing up one thing, which I will dispute we, maybe I'm wrong, but we some someone pointed out to Twitter that many people have said this, that the thing we keep skipping over is that the the chance that Bernard has downloaded the files and Peter Abernathy that when they were at fort four, learn hope in that, like the cuts between when he was looking at him and then when they escape that rather that he got snatched by the Delo Smer Sary's that Bernard used the time to download the files into himself. I have not really thought that there was a lot of merit to that because one there didn't seem to be a lot of time and. There wasn't really any evidence that that had happened, but now I see the maybe that's a thing and so he was breaking down before breaking down now seemingly in the same way that that's my thing is I don't see a huge difference between what he's been doing and he just he hit his head and he was dripping fluid. Some people are saying that the reasonings glitch out so much on the beaches because he has the Peter apnea, he stuff and that the reason that we're kind of overthinking thinking this, that the reason he so silent and everything is that he has the Peter Abernathy data in him. He guarantee think and what they're looking for is actually in his head, which actually does make sense. I just don't. I don't think that's there, but will let you mean what about that moment with a with Elsie where she's talking about your memories aren't index addressed anything they're just kind of floating around. Is that just a General Bernard thing? Could that also tie into that idea of him having met massive file, whatever it is perhaps dad on the guests, like in his head every week that I feel like this is my gimmick now that I just come on and say, all right, I'm really into this as long as the show is not about this, like narrow set of. About things. Yeah. As long as the show is not about the concept of like ram or storage space, I think I'm fine. I don't know if it's like if like putting that extra personality and to him, overloaded him is I don't think that's a problem, but it sort of just like a really weirdly small points. Yeah, because the reason that I don't buy that theory is because from my understanding, the reason that Peter Abernathy isn't glitch and all the time is because they actually decommissioned him and he is really have a personality. One, and that's not the case with Bernard and to say that they're lifting similar ways on the air. Like he's glitches outside the cave has almost what looks like a seizure in a way. I Bernard hasn't been decommissioned, which is why I have ignored it. Then again, maybe I'm wrong. And. Shot in the head. Thing a lot of stuff going on when you it's razor. When you hear salting, remember he got shot in the face. I will say though now that you mention it or now that people on Twitter mention it, the the fact that he was left alone in that room with Peter Abernathy is conspicuous and he did do the home, my God like right before that. Yeah. So we'll keep on it. There's a lot of very deliberate. I I didn't. I had a few questions about that episode when like Deloris looked at him. It was like put him in the put in prison with all the others or whatever. And then like once later she's like, bring. There was a lot of very deliberate staging with that, and I don't know why. I don't know why she would have been mad at the only reason. It seemed like she would say, put Bernard away. I guess she associates him with the humans, right? Even though she knows he's not. Yeah, yeah, but, but it's still seemed like she only put them in prison so that her bringing him back would be something would be a moment. I don't know if it's an editing thing. But yeah, it definitely really deflates the moment when she's like, oh yeah, like put him with the others. And then it's almost like nothing happened there. So we're not. I need you. All right. Let's move on to. We didn't. We didn't horribly mess anything else up, not to my knowledge, but if you do think we miss anything up, please let us know. And apparently David doesn't check Switzer mentioned says is so we don't blame you. I'm nothing I do look into it or I just don't religiously. Look at my mentions. And so, yeah, if you need, if you want to tweet at us tweeted, Danny. Hi fits. I am. I am Snoopy on Twitter. Handle. I'm at any hyphen standing, underscore hyphen. Maigo boom might year mica Mike Peters under school because really young dolph tweeted mica. I'm David shoemaker, but you know, good luck. All right on could to the theories of the week as source by Danny. Hi fits from what we're calling the internet. What are the craziest things that are happening by the way spoiler alert till I don't even understand what's been listened to this show if you don't wanna deal spoilers literally all that this show is yeah, spoilers yeah, I get it. We even have around feed. But anyway, Danny go ahead. Tell us what tell us what the internet saying this week. So first of all you mentioned on our pot on Sunday, then you wanted to see what read it did with that book. James Delo saying that this is exactly why I love read it because read it found the book and the business. One thing I actually I had to find out the book is the masterpieces of science fiction edition of the sirens of titan by Kurt Vonnegut. Which is a hell of a reference. So if you're not gonna get was one of the best science fiction writers of the twentieth century, and the two long don't read version is that the book is basically about how all of human history and into the future when we have space travel and we go through an interplanetary war, all of human history was to get one dude, one small metal piece because he needed to fix space car craft because they needed to fix the spacecraft. That was literally what all of humanity was for. There was no free will. There was any of that. It was literally like if you seen Rick and Morty than we creates an entire Mike verse with a species to fix his car battery l yeah, like that's what all if you Mattie was. So it's a hell of a reference that James de Las who has basically commissioned thirty years of these hosts going through torture and torment, and death and horrible everything basically. So he could get this one thing. He just could get his body and that is what he's spending his time reading this book. So he could smoke. Cigars and sailors yet my wife. Fantastic. I was already reading this last night because it's like.
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"Was a plotline in humans comic book, not that long ago. It was. What's comic book. Okay. Well, I just I just see movies guy, damn lineal z-. If this is a show about him, mortality feels a little bit too far field, but who cares? What do you think actually now that that seems like the most plausible thing they're trying to find like, you know, phase tier three of the story, like you know, to evolve the outside world that would make the most sense either they're going to weaponize the host or use them in some other thing that you know, like only people in the richest of like one percent of the one percent could afford. So Danny, we're talking this morning about the theory that that BernarD in season two that we're watching right now is actually has Teddy's mind him, at least in the end up in the present scenes what we're what we've been calling the presence scenes when he wakes up on the beach. That's Teddy's consciousness in bernards. Spotty. Right. And then when I started talking about what if the Dolores has someone else's brand than he made, you know, he, he gave the right answer, which is. If any host can swap minds with another host, then the whole show just goes off the rails because every conversation is like, wait, who's talking in that body, maybe they swapped heads, and that's becomes a really ridiculous show. Right? Yes. I kind of feel the same way about them mortality thing because if the whole point of Westworld is to let a rich people put their brains minds and hosts and live forever. Then as soon as Ford is shot at the end of season, one doesn't the mystery. If for del for the Delo corporation doesn't the primary mystery become wear is word. Yeah, which host is housing Ford right now, isn't that what they're hunting for? Maybe that's what they're hunting for, but but that I mean, but that should be objective number one. That's how it was supposed to be. That four was supposed to be the old full too obsessed with his trinkets where that's that was his view that. Plan. It's not just Ford's invention. Like they've like Ford's doing this was doing his thing, making western stories, and the dose corporation has started this initiative to live forever inside of hosts, right? Yeah, because I think there is one thing that you keep repeating which is that they want to get the IP of his hands over and over, and that really is what they're doing with Abernathy. They haven't been able to get out of the park until this opportunity. All right. So that's, and then we also know from just the look ahead to next week's episode that the they have those little brain things which they kind of look like cupcakes. Incredible. I don't know if you guys saw the brains in trae, but like they're just little red balls and red velvet cupcakes. Maybe I'm just hungry, but you probably swear to God. All right. The next next year. So what if this whole a uprising that's happening right now in the park is really going on, but what if there was actually a pre written narrative for future world and that involved in a operas with all the parks, we know from the the original movie, it's based on that. There was. World and future world. What if the future world in the Westworld Delo swirled was an uprising. So maybe it's happening. Maybe it's not even if it's really going on, there are pre written narratives that Delors could be working on that actually had a future world type uprising in her past. So you wanna go to the future. It's your dream visit the future. And what you want is like Terminator this Toby. That's exactly it's the background part of Larry Fishburne. Ship fighting back against the robot that is exactly that is my dream of how to spend a we have. I mean, like blade runner was really cool to look at not trying to live in that universe. You know that said, I mean, people are going to Westworld for the weird like low rent a Bauchi. And you know, it seems like everybody wants to be in a little bit of peril. I don't know. You wouldn't. You wouldn't go to Terminator world. You can just fight the other terminators now, man, I wouldn't go to like the back to the future to world because like bifida dick, I wanna go somewhere. Beautiful and sunny check at rush world look nice. Yeah. Well, until until what's his name get in problematic. All right. What's your next? Danny? Okay. This is the best theory I've ever heard my life. This is the best Westworld theory. One. Ultimate one. So your penultimate take is the best one you've ever heard in your life. Maybe he's just maybe trick. Really the best thing I've ever heard. I'm going with your enthusiasm that. That. Shadow to glaciers, TES pledge glaciation T S. All right. The show Westworld is based off the nineteen Seventy-three movie of the same name. Yeah, which was written by and directed by written and directed by Michael Crichton. Michael Crichton is an esteemed author who wrote a book. You may have heard of called Jurassic Park. I'm familiar with. Great flick and I- positive you that we know three of these parks, but we do not know the other three and what would be a better vacation adventure. Then if one of these parks was drastic park. Dinosaurs. Like. I think I've heard this before, but I loved his Danny's. Enthusiasm is totally buying in. We're going to Raj world to hunt Tigers and if you're gonna go that for why the hell would you not go one step further, build some frigging dinosaurs. Go hunt, dinosaurs for fun. That's vacate. In in Jurassic world will now. Okay. Jurassic Park of I was thinking Jurassic world because I was just like, I don't remember there being any Rowley bowls on tracks. If there is indeed a Jurassic Park world drastic world and the hosts are this easily reprogrammed. Why hasn't there been rampaging across borders? Because it's going to happen later because we have been there yet. I don't think you're dressing world would definitely be park that people would go to. I just want to say, I mean, yeah, yes, definitely. The question is, I mean, a lot of the reason why people would want Dino world to exist if you built Westworld is because of the existence of the movie Jurassic Park. So the question for me is, does the film franchise Jurassic Park exists in Westworld reality? I think your way over thinking it wanna go because they wanna see dinosaurs. I think that's why they're going. I think that would be awesome minute somebody reprograms pterodactyl it's a wrap. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Dolores with a P ninety two Catania righty T Rex. That would be awesome for comic book which you've never read, but like gonna push the boundaries of TV. I think that that's what the boundaries I think in re, I think in pro wrestling terms is what we call it division killer to why you never make Andrei. Your champion because then the stories over, right. Like what else is going to happen? Yeah, this this would basically be like if they rode the the eagles in two more in the first Lord of the rings movie, what is the point of the show all serious though. I know this sounds ridiculous, but when you actually think about what the show is, there's already buffalo horses that they go through the pro. Some other making, like they really have bears like thirty have all this stuff. Yeah. And like at that point, like why wouldn't you make dinosaurs like that would be a really good business pitch even if this whole, like anytime we pitch a seventh world traffic world because I want to write a T Rex, yeah, I think I think there's something to that people like right now in two thousand eighteen pay fifty grand to go kill light. Cecil the lion in Africa, fifty grand to go ride T wreck people like pet alligators and crazy shit like that too. Yeah. No, it's it's possibility. I have another question though about Michael Crichton's he's the creator of all this. One thing that a lot of people maybe don't know about my Crayton is that he was six, nine, very, very tall. Dude. Everybody that's in Westworld is like a regular height. They know in the past people were shorter. I just wonder if like a real tall guy, Anthony Davis went to Westworld are the are the host program, nor the fact that he's like seven feet tall, or do they just constantly be? Are they constantly the tallest man who's ever walked. I
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"Right. Tell you why? Okay. Okay. So. Nordwyck up on the beach. Right. What if I told you blow my mind that was not BernarD, what's that's teddy? It's Teddy's brain consciousness core processors. Call it in Bernard's body. Okay. Now let me walk you through the opening scene of the again and let me just paint a picture. Few of, you know, with the maybe this is teddy the first thing, the waves wash up, wash away, Bernard's glasses into the sea. He rolls over and Ashley stubbed says, you must be all at a fucking sorts right now here, and then they pick them up and he's going, he sees the hosts are getting shot and he's very emotional that those are getting shop, and then they take him over and they cut open the native American host headway, pause, pause, pause, pause. Okay, somewhere in there he gets a P ninety stuck in his face. He does right. And he says, what are you going to do? Shoot the chute the boss loss. Okay. So you're saying that it's Teddy's brain inside brain inside BernarD spot. Okay, so this movie stubs was trying. That was stubs way to tell him, hey, you're in a different body, not stumps. Doesn't know. Sorry, let me read one. This is completely unrelated theory. One Delo says, no idea that this is true. Okay. Laura's has put. Teddy's brain into Bernard's body. If you go back to season one, one of the things teddy says about, why is that? Why it makes his men wear the flesh and bones of his enemies. Oh. Now if you go back, if you want what BernarD is wearing on the beach, it is almost. I see my cousin Vinny like dental to a teddy, whereas all season Jesus. Now, all right. Now what happens at the end of of the first episode right there looking across the water and they seal those dead bodies. And what been on say, I killed them, killed them. All that's Teddy's entire season. One arc is the guilt of like, wow, I participated in this massacre and like that's his whole. And then what happens immediately after says that pans to floating dead body of teddy whose brain is not actually in that hosts because teddy is looking his dead body weight, can I. This, this might does this possibly support my authentic theory from the first episode that the for the very first scene from season to episode, one Dolores and BernarD in the debriefing was actually Dolores teaching teddy had a be BernarD, yes, I think. I was related. I think that it was, I think Delors was running that debriefing. And what was that conversation? I dreamt I was on an ocean. Yeah. The others at I drip, he got left behind the Loris left him behind so that we can keep going into the. So right after this happens on the beach is still the for the still the first seen after that debriefings the second seen it the whole season and they cut open the native American hosts head right, and they wanna see what his memories there's. And the last thing he saw his Delors shooting him insist not all of us get to go to the valley beyond right now. They're they're cutting his head open and they're really confused at the strand in the tack, and everyone's really confused at Deloris shooting people and the technician who cuts her, the guy's head opens. This isn't she supposed to be like the the happy, welcome wagon and Bernard's like, yeah, and the camera now focusing on BernarD, but the tech is talking. But BernarD is looking like really confused and tech says, quote, they can't just change there. Character profiles. And then with the camera, still focused on BernarD strand says, it seems her host or capable of many things. We never thought possible right dropped the tablet. It falls. The image is of Delors pointing gun directly at the camera, which BernarD is staring right at and BernarD to start staring at his hands. He's unbelievably confused as he stares at his hands. One more. In visit, we're going to say the same. We're still. I just want to take moment out. I wanna take one moment. It's I just to save for the record that I have. I spent the past forty five seconds, googling the outfits that Bernardin teddy wear and the and yes, he is. He is conspicuously dress, sort of like teddy at the beginning of season run up on the pop. Up on the post because throw some images on the pot for sure, but I got one more to wrap this all around when Jonathan Nolan and Lisa joy. The creators of the show did a Reddit AMA a few weeks ago where they caused the whole tizzy may rel everybody. Yeah, and they were like, we're going to release all the details of season two and everything that happens on read it ahead of time and we had all hissy fit about it, but they Rick rolled everyone and they released this elaborate twenty five minute video where they pretended like a serious for two minutes. And then it was just like Evan Rachel wood who plays Dolores like Rick rolling us. But before that when it was still like a serious trailer around the one minute Mark of this twenty five minute video there is like it's just starts cutting like at milliseconds flash, flash, flash, flash, flash. Do you know what is in those slashes? What BernarD. Writing in the train and getting off the train to Westworld as teddy like the teddy all season. One would ride the train. Him nor doing that. So you have BernarD flashing looking at his like intense chair, really confused looking at his hands shocked. And then he gets off the train wanders. And it's just confused that he's doing with TED. He's been doing and then he goes and he and then he actually sees Dolores across the way, and he just looks confused that he just keeps looking himself. He doesn't understand that would also explain a lot of things we see in the very beginning. The transition between the interview from the Lawrenson Barnard's in the first scene rain to the second scene and wake up at the beach is all his memories. What do you see? You see BernarD holding a machine gun in the clothing reads wearing is like the the beach BernarD, he's holding machine gun and just firing BernarD, just shoot a gun, but teddy, does you also see him and Dolores like Delors caressing. His much. It's the same image. You see going forward out like Nestle Westworld after. After. Deloris is like caressing. Bernard's cheek insists there's beauty and what we are like it's teddy artist teddy. I like everything about this theory. All this give shout out to the Reddit users who do give please credit for this theory mostly goes to sub VR Steve on, read it under the thread. Spoilers Beagles teeth theory. And this guy is he okay. If you're gonna hand like spoilers in in the Westworld sub read it have spoilers B equals T like people that watch the show aren't gonna know what that means is the game of thrones version of language. By the way today's the worst day it'd be just like particularly to be embracing the game of thrones mythology when Georgia are Martin just hasn't written a damn thing in the past five years and is on his blog talking about how great works often go on finish anyway. So wait, did did you give credits everybody who deserves it? Oh, well, just a bunch of PJ's are comfy funk in wild. And yes, severe staff for the everything about this theory. I like all the work that these zealous Westworld you're is have done. I, I appreciate you bring this to my attention. I'm not quite sure how where I am on Deloris switch the brains
"westworld" Discussed on Westworld: The Recappables
"PSA we've got a new show on the ringer podcast network produced in partnership with major Domo media, chef and co, founder of MoMA Foco. Dave Chang has joined the ringer family with his new show. The Dave Chang show every week he'll discuss the culinary world. What it's been like launching his new restaurant major Domo and more subscribe on apple podcasts, Spotify Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcasts and now onto Westworld. As they say, dead isn't what it used to be and weekly isn't what it used to be. Either welcome to the second installment this week of Westworld. The recap Ables I am your host. David shoemaker with today is I don't know. It's tinfoil Tuesday. It's the recap, holes, rewind. It's the recap. Ables recap Ables is that recap squared? It's it's, we're lost in the maze. We'll figure out what the call this eventually, but this is the show over acknowledge our errors. We're only human after all, and we indulge in the internet. Conspiracy theories of the week today were diving deeper yet into season to episode, two reunion. I am joined by the ringers mica Peters. And as always that drone host the keeps creeping up on you from behind Danny hyphen. How are you guys doing this week? I am doing, you know, I'm not sure how I'm doing. I. I can't answer that question. Truthfully. I don't think very my head is in. I don't know. I'm in shambles right. This was we talked about this episode already, but this was this was a weird head space episode of Westworld young Daniel. How are you doing man? I'm great. So. Simple easy to remember as people who is in the podcast may know for my rush introduction, we record every week before the show comes out. So when we were in the planning phases, it made a lot of sense to do it. A second brief, very quick episode of the show just to acknowledge one, everything that we got wrong, because either we weren't paying attention or we didn't have the benefit of everybody else on the internet. Backing us up and to to really play around and get in the sandbox with the rest of the internet of all the conspiracy theories and fantasies and everything else that people think is happening. You know. Trying to find that grand unified theory and we're just trying to find it with you or whatever. You know, I'm glad you guys you here with me to help me talk. All right, first things first. I guess we got something wrong. I never listen to my own podcast, but it just got something wrong. I don't know. I was silent and I let it happen. I think it was on and Herman, thank you for coming on the show Allison, but we were going back through online this week. So previous episode we were going back through the the Arnold time line and the Delo timeline prior to Westworld opening trying to get everything in chronological order. And we, there was some question as to whether or not Arnold is still alive, win, WIlliam and Logan were traipsing through the park and season one. The correct answer is that he was dead and they mentioned one of the creators dying in season one, which of course we should have gone, right? Yeah. So the time line, the best the will now that we know is that we see the flashbacks from the beginning of episode, two season to where Ford and Arnold a building those hosts. And flashback begins in Ford and Arnold pitch Logan by having Angela invite him to the cocktail party that quickly turns into an orgy and then was a great business Mitch, and then Logan through Delo chooses to invest in Westworld prey. Then Arnold and Ford or working on the host and work on the host. And all those flashbacks from one happened, Arnold leaves the Lewis's alive. He tries to convince for it not to open the park. He merges Deloris with Wyatt, and then that massacre happens the end of season one where Arnold dies. Then for opens Westworld anyway, he buries the town of Ascalon Tei we're all Arnold was killed underneath a bunch of dirt and then the up the events of season. What happened with this flashbacks where young, WIlliam and Logan visit the park. Right. Okay. Well, now we know that was very helpful. That was really good. Can you? Can you make some sort of a diagram that we carry around. Does actually shout out the person who did in fact make that which is a rumble with a personality, Simone, seavy on read it. Thank you TV. Speaking of read it, this is what I really wanted to get together to talk about. I have been last season. I was so deep end on Westworld, right at I, I'm embarrassed to talk about it or not. I shouldn't be embarrassed on this podcast. I was embarrassing my real life to tell people about it this season. One of the things about doing a west row podcast is like, I'm sort of done at like two o'clock on Friday with my Westworld week and it doesn't, and and I don't have that like the same. I'm not watching it on Sunday night, so I'm not just going to meet leader, read it to saying what people are saying. It's a different schedule and I miss it deeply. I know you Danny are still heavily invested in Westworld right at and all of the various corners of the Westworld internet. So I'm coming to you now with this special plea. Tell me what the crazy people on the internet or talking about, are you sure you want to make sure that they're crazy because I. Oh, that they're not, but I am sure that I wanna know what people are saying. Okay, well, there's a lot here so we can start thirty guys a couple ones. And then we have one. We really got do deep dive on, but really everything kind of revolves around BernarD. The first one I floated in our last discussion for episode to about, we'll go a little more to it. Basically it's about how everyone a Delo strand. Charlotte hail everyone. There knows that Bernardus host. Right that he memory is corrupted. They can't just cut his head open and pull out his his memory and see what happens. Over and over through that cycle on the beach so that they can figure out what happened last two weeks to try and get information out of him. Now that came from a couple of things. Basically, you just found this guy who's the head of your company just lying Shenoy pay. You need like like ice back to something, nothing. And then you thought it was kind of weird how nobody asked any questions about. I know les Nonni K nobody was like, are you cool. What you've been at? You know what? That would be a good place to start. Yeah. And then if you and then even just that scene, there's some irregularities with like the hosts who are getting shot on the beach, like the kind of keeps shooting them. It seems like it might just be a production error, but there's some Continuity IRA there with like, who's there and who's lying down in what order. They get shot and stuff, which might be production error with very intentional. Is that BernarD finishes strengths sentence, they say at the same time, less than ideal and strands a little bit like not weirded out the finish the sentence. Okay. That's really weird. So people will, why is this happening? And the and one theory is that they know his host and they're trying to just running him through like groundhog day. Okay. Does this but you, you said last week, did this goes deep? But what's I mean? Charlotte's involvement? Yes. So the other, the twin to this is that Charlotte would also know and the twin to these. It should be said that it's kind of weird that like one of the senior people in the company is missing. Well, we'll do that. He is a robot also, but it's also we're ready to even to go to go back to even before the catastrophe. Like it's one thing if there it's one thing if BernarD has just hang, it's eighty. Basically, he's like if his function is Ford's assistant and nobody really asked me questions because it's like, you know, he's just Ford's dude. But if he's a senior, he's like, you know, borderline exac at Westworld. It makes sense that like Charlotte HALE would probably know he was a robot. Yeah. I mean like, but also just in general, like I'm just wondering about the living memory of the of of the place that you know, like right memories of fickle thing and organizations with high turnover. I'm just saying that like it's okay. All right. Relax with your sperry's. All right. What I'm saying is that I mean, if you're if you're having company or whatever, and you have like a picture of, you know, like Ford and Arnold on his desk at all time. Yes, that is weird that no, it ever brings. No one. You think. You think severance to ask for the question, they just assume it's BernarD, but me super weird if I had a photo of like me and Danny on my desk. Yeah, actually, it would be pretty stretch it main Danny at the Yankees game just taken in some baseball. That would be strange wars ago and you're doing to the back to the theory. The theory is that if Charlotte knows than that explains what so if Charlotte knows that would explain a few things, one of which was in that first episode where Bernard's like frantically trying to fix himself without her figuring out in the she's known the whole time. The other part and aspect there is the one of the leading there, the robot, disembodied, whatever voice things reading off all the issues wrong with him with his body and Weiss failing. One of them is the, it's believed him as Fanta fantas majoria something. I'm not a doctor scientists, but it's the inability to see faces. And one theory is because we know from the trailers and some things that there are actually some other BernarD hosts out there that those skin. Anlysts weird, demon host are actually all other copies of BernarD, their clones of him, but he can't see them because like he's still like an army of BernarD. Armie door in season. One like thank something if something is befuddling to a host, it's basically invisible or it's some weirdness. MIR prospect nausea as the face blind is the word for face fineness according to all right. That no, here's no to poke the hole in it. I think that the whole thing rests on because people caught the continuity error in the very first scene or sorry, the center and killing the. Yeah, the the host. And I think it's genuinely Continuity. IRA dump from New York, but it just keeps going. I don't believe that there's a better one than I do believe and let me just say anything. I said this last week, but the but part to the Charlotte hail part is not necessarily those two things are not necessarily dependent on one another. No, no. They could just be that like strand figured out that he's a host because he's been dead on the beach, and they tried to read his brain like he did with the native American and they said, let's no, but and they got to the same place. All right, cool. There are other theories that you like better? Well, there's one that connects this. So one of the other ones which I did not mention, but one of the other pillars of that theories that BernarD in that timeline on the beach in the future, two weeks in the future does not have a scar on his temple and the other ones does that scars from the end of season. When four days. And he has a scar he does not have that scar on the beach two weeks later what he does not have right.
"westworld" Discussed on Westworld: The Recappables
"The took literally the welcome to Westworld music from season one while instead of a host repair themselves. He's cleaning himself up. I'm like, all right. This is your and grabbing his hat at a out of the out of the chest. You think that the scotch offline entertainer Bill was supposed to mean anything. I think it's clear that this is Dolores after this point had played in entertained straight for everybody out. I mean, for for for all the humans and now she was and this is what you get. Yeah, this is what you get. With. I mean, probably the biggest, the biggest sort of laughed like communal Ghaffar line and the his in the entire show is like when that song queued up and then the murder begins. Yes. I mean, that's just a very broad, but brilliant little turn, especially be, you know, as said, opposed to what we've seen on this show. L O L funny show. So to have moments like that that are a little bit, at least smirking is a nice is nice respite. Absolutely. Yeah. But I thought it was interesting that they leaned in, like I said before, they kind of leaned into the western right? And there's a lot more of the spaghetti western music as much as I love this show the modern like all rock songs, put strings with sort of my least favorite part of the sheets just be like they'd play something for karma police or whatever on that panel. And I was like, this is way too self-conscious and trying to like cheat me into a vibe that you're not actually giving the. Yeah, you know, I very much agree with that. So obviously I know who's cut off his. But if someone hypothetically on this podcast did not know who's got Joplin as a, I think, early nineteen late let nineteenth century early twentieth century ragtime pianist. He wrote the piece of music that we hear on the west in Westworld is the entertainer which was probably popularized, I think for most. People in the postwar era in the sting. So is just, yeah, we could. We could do hold thirty minutes on like the sting parallels to, but I but I think we can leave that aside. But I think but yeah, I think that more than anything, it's the, it's the title and the familiarity with it. I mean, it it, it was the sort of song that anachronism aside is the sort of thing you would imagine hearing in the saloon you know, it's very, it's just very sort of cheery, welcome to the theme park music and a lot of at least that's the way it's evolved in American lore. Yes. All right time for our reality check segment where young Danny hyphen will Florida's theories tell us what mysteries we've solved and tell us what mysteries we're opening the door to in future episodes. Okay, got there's a ton to run through, but I, we gotta give shouts out to read it, read it actually called the this was going to be an island off of Asia, like months and months ago. So credit to the person came up with that. We stabbed that there's a minimum of at least six parks. Yeah, the opening credits changed a, we see a host holding. Baby, a domesticated horse, replaced by a bison roaming free. The host is lowered into a clear liquid to and the credits as opposed to the white milky liquid from season one in the beginning of both of Bernard's timelines. We see that he's mistaken for human once by Charlotte, and once by the soldiers on the beach, one of the security force members chilling with Carl BernarD, you might recognize as Betty Gabriel from get out. I think she's a host. Dolores says that she's no longer the farm girl, no longer Wyatt, but myself. So perhaps she needs a new name. Maybe she'll give herself a new name, the shape of the brain stem thing, they pull out of the person. They scalp looks a lot like a virus under a microscope, and of course, viruses need hosts. Finally, in the underground super-secret lab BernarD explains that hosts can communicate subconsciously like ants underground. This is Lauren because and so the only other species that we know of that can conduct full out warfare. Nice. Danny. And yeah, it's all I can. I can. I just ask a couple of ones that we questions that we want to have answered for the future. Yeah. So Peter Abernathy, obviously Dolores is quote unquote father. One narrative is brought up as this hugely important character because he's holding the package. Yeah, he's, he is the the courier so to speak. So obviously knowing would Deloris have some, you know, whether it's real or not. Af- a, you know, a connection to him. He's also a important character Intesa Thompson's. Yeah, Charlotte, hails narrative. So I think that he'll probably come into play in a big way in the second season. Yeah, I think that's absolutely true. I mean, it's we, it was notable that we didn't see him at all, and he's only referred to sort of vaguely until they went off looking for until BernarD set out to to figure out where he was, and he did find that he did find him. Yes, ostensibly in the mesh network and then, but we we haven't seen him yet and you know, obviously season one. Allures his whole narrative is her whole loop is going home and trying to save her father and failing. And now you're going to have probably she's set up to do that. Also. Interesting. Dolores mother has never seen, but she is in that house every night, but Reggie see her so that there's also potential for that to come back. Yeah. I mean, I hope that we don't hope it's not just some big reveal about this Dolores. I mean, this show does such a good job at sort of building mysteries and solving them. It seems like it's doing that right now that I think that you know, we don't need another Dulles board member. We don't need to find out that like a lot of people in season one. We're wondering if Charlotte was like the man and all that sort of very unnecessary for the show that they've built. But yeah, I guess we'll see P pop Abernathy start basically like starts the ball rolling. I mean, he's the first one in the show that says these violent delights have violent ends on my correct in saying then I think the and then and then now he's become the sort of literal macguffin Dan show. So we'll. Yeah, that'll be. Are there any more questions leading. I mean, we're talking a lot about the, I think we've probably said the word end the most in this podcast, the fact that Dolores says to teddy this ends with you and meet, you know, you think in that seems she's saying ends with you and me together. Yeah, but we're forced to ask what the end of what and what is this by the end of the episode because were ninety nine point, nine percent shore that's teddy in the C. Yeah, yeah. So everything's happening in these two weeks. I think that the thing that I kept thinking about was at the end of last season Ford says he spent, you know, he gave the host basically thirty five years to learn how to defend themselves before he's set them free into the world. Out of that was this repetition and tragedy, and eventually through that comes awakening. But one of the things that she that Delors clearly learned. We saw this throughout last season through all of those repetitions and all those debriefings was she learned how to bullshit? Yeah, end. And you see your when she when she at the very beginning of this episode when she says, like when when BernarD or Arnold says, he's worried about her and she says. How would you possibly be worried about me? Like little old me that look on her face. It's the same look on her face when she's telling teddy this is going to end with you and me, and you know, as she saying that that you know she's going to she, she doesn't have big plans for that guy in the future or at least not in his prolonged existence. And I've actually zoom out even further on that. So obviously, Deloris in that and I think Evan, Rachel wood by winning EMMY after the season, but obviously Delors in that scene really has a lot more of what we consider human qualities. She's really now Evan Rachel, Wood's really acting. But in the final Sima Tenny teddy Asser, how are you going to conquer these worlds? And she says, because I remember, I see it all now. So clearly the past, the present the future. I know how the story ends and I would posit to you guys. Do you think Dolores is now vulnerable? So some of these more human follies because I don't care if she is thirty three decades of experience. I don't think she can see the future, and I think that she actually might have that fallacy of thinking she knows how things will go. And I don't think that they've evolved to that point when Adam and eve. Eight from the gar ate from the tree of knowledge. They thought they knew everything and then God was like net. Yeah, I think I just I'm just gonna take everything that Dolores says for the first few episodes with a grain of salt because I think she is signaling to us that she is playing parts. So she shows those people that she's she's setting up to hang all the different faces of Dolores that she can play and we still don't. I don't think one hundred percent understand the white component to this, the death cult component this, but to really basic question that we that we've skipped over. But when she left him there, the strung up to the tree standing on the, you know, standing on the wooden sticks or whatever that presumably if they fell, they would die. But did she leave them? They're out of generosity that she didn't kill them straight up or was that just more cruel way to get rid of them? I don't know what the answer is at any time or we just not supposed to know the answer to that question. I don't know. I mean, we're still waiting to find out what happened to Elsie they they do. They do sometimes like have a hold card when it comes to. Character deaths other show. Yeah, I can't wait for a long season. If talking about L C and Stubbs. The two, that my two favorite characters in the show. Thank you guys both for sitting here and talking to me. Thanks in the back. Thank all of you for listening. We'll be back here next week with episode. Two. Don't forget to check out the ringer dot com for a bunch of great Westworld coverage. Thanks everybody for listening. We'll see you back here next week. Brees all motor functions. We're out. Mm song was made by our friends at song, Finch dot com. Check out song venture. 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"westworld" Discussed on Westworld: The Recappables
"Unlock the may as hi. I'm David shoemaker, and I'm here to tell you about a brand new podcast from the ringer podcast network, it's west world. The recap Ables. Violent Westworld is finally back on HBO after being gone from our lives almost two years, and I'll be here every week with the rotating casts ringer staffers to give you instant recaps and updates on the latest theories floating around the Westworld universe. The first episode of Westworld recap was launched Sunday, April twenty second right after the season, two premiere. So watch with us and subscribe to Westworld the recap Ables on apple podcasts on Spotify or wherever you get your podcast before Sunday's premier. I have ringer staffer, an official Westworld recap stat guy, Danny hyphen in the studio with me right now to talk about what we're looking forward to in season two, Danny, how you doing man. I'm great. I just fitted myself for tinfoil hat, and I gotta tell you it looks great on you. Now let's talk about season one before we get into theorizing too much. What was going to happen when season one wrapped up, forgot shot in the head by. Dolores. Did Dolores apparently reached contra state of consciousness bicameral mind now, single camel. Maeve hatching escape. Plan got away from the Westworld lab got on a train, presumably to get off the Westworld island and then decided to come back Dolores teddy, all of our favorite characters are. We don't know what's going to happen next, mid him black first person ever get shot in the arm and smile. He was really happy to get shot. This stay real. And then our man BernarD was there too. But you know, he was, he's been revealed to be a host himself. So presumably he's still around doing something. It's just making faces and being confused. His main -pensive I think is his look. Yeah, wh. What are you most excited for for season two. I, I'm just happy. It's back. I mean, it's actually go bomb was still president when the show went off the air. So it's been a while when I'm most excited for season two other than just returning is I feel season was all prologue. And when we look back on the show, we're probably be like, wow, the show really started in season two. So the prologue over and I'm excited to actually get to like what the show is actually about. I loved Westworld season one. I mean, just totally swept up in it, but rewatching it preparing for this podcast. I'm on the same page as you. The thing that struck me the most was I can't believe that this show worked as well as it did because there's so much prologue. There's the last episode where I was glued to my seat every time I watched it. It's like forty, five. Minutes of exposition there. It's just four explaining what the story is. Yeah, I'm so I have a couple of friends who are like, oh, I watch Westworld coming back. I'm like, yes, but, okay. What's it about? And I'm like, start to explain them, like, wow, like let me think about even the process of trying to explain what the show's about. Drill have to pause and think about like what the best way to explain it is because there's so much, but also it can get so convoluted to the point that you almost kind of forget where it's really going. And I'm, I just wanted to any of this is going to bat, robots, becoming people a robots becoming conscious or are robots, human beings and the way that the same way that we are where we left off with at the end of season one, it seemed like this awakening was beginning to take place. The question now is, are we going to spend a whole nother season in the philosophical realm? Or are we going to move into the more physical world? Well, we can hope that season two's going to start answering a lot of these questions for us. Let's let's just take this. Let's go full ringer with this. Okay. Who had the championship belt for season one? I think Deloris clearly had it, but I. Maeve really. I mean, Ford, Ford really deserves the answers. You wouldn't even talked about my guy, Jeffrey Wright, awful. I think Deloris earns it. It's Ford throughout four and the whole thing. You don't really know if he's the villain or not. And then by the annual, oh my God, this guy is just he's, he's a one man wrecking crew. You're right. There's a lot of top notch characters. I'm invested in so many of these characters despite the fact that many of them are robots or hosts as we should say, Evan Rachel wood was was set up to be clearly. The protagonist of the show will see where they go with that, but you're right Tandy, Newton's character. Maeve was the underdog and ended up being the person who are really rooting for despite the fact that she oversaw the murder of many, many human beings. I it's okay. Okay. Well, we'll get. We'll skip over that. You gotta break some excellent. Who is the player to wash in season two? You had to pick one whose narrative arc you're most interested in for the second season of Westworld. Who do you pick? Maeve? She's taking us to Shogo world. Maeve is going to be our vehicle to explore outside of Westworld. I mean, literally because she actually. That little bomb out of her spine and the lettuce last episode, but she's going to be the one that expands quite literally and metaphorically what we know about Westworld show and the physical kitchen. Yeah, I think that's right. For me. I most interested in the man in black aka WIlliam if only because of the way that they've managed to sort of flip expectations with certain characters, and I think that you got Ed Harris, you have such a rich character in the man in black. Although fairly one note for both of the season. Now we find out these WIlliam the last episode. He gives us his expository back story the holes end. So there's a little bit more depth to him, but not based on anything that I've seen or read or anything like that. I think that if you're able to flip your expectations about that character on its head, that's going to be some really interesting stuff. I just wanna see Deloris FOX stuff up. I wanna see Delors just on this rampage. She's just going to destroy people. All right. We're going to get. We're going to watch this episode together and then Sunday immediately after it airs. This podcast will be live Westworld season two. Episode, one journey into night. You me, I think our good friend, Chris Ryan's gonna be sitting in with us this season. We're going to have all the heavy hitters from the ringer dot com. Chris Concepcion Mallory, Sean, fantasy Juliet. Hopefully we're going to get everybody in here to talk about this show, but subscribe to Westworld three capitals. We got our own feed baby this big, so download it from apple podcasts from Spotify, wherever you get your podcast faith, you can figure out how to watch Westworld. You can figure out how to download the podcast. So check us out, like I said, Sunday right after journey tonight, airs our podcast will be live, so we'll be in your feeds, check it out, please download and and let us know what you think. So I hope you will enjoy this last piece. Very much.