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"australian herbarium" Discussed on Science Friction
"Endangered in any way he wasn't being jealous. Perhaps he was just softening up with the years because lives right and fight to his plant said I could say material. He had eleven you. I already had most of it and also into time may with music and found last amish when he was interested in a very wide fails events patron that every other person living on. Not that been most cooperative. It's like sharing a wonderful drain. One of her earliest quotes was. I could run as fast as any man. I could jump as high as a man. I could do anything any. She always thought she was good as any man. And that was that and we were brought up the same way. So there's impossible to keep mother down. She's not strong or pushy forceful but she was very resilient and gentle. But persistent and prolific Rica's bibliography goes for pages in not in fifty one her book. Orchids of the West came out then in nineteen fifty eight her book trigger plants and not in sixty eight plants of pry in Australia which her daughter. Dorothy helped research. There were many people Westminster Who are up stunned. By the appearance of these three books you mentioned. They appear to in relatively quick succession so she achieved an enormous amount and she had a lot of scientific status through that from various people who have powerful people in Western Australia but as well as over east. It put South Western Australian floor on the map but ricky guarded considerable international recognition to Laura. He we are at the State Library of W. A. Rick Ericsson has vast cobb here at the library so off requested some items for us to have three plans of prey. Okay Oh wow. Inside Ave most visit original watercolors and drawings for Rica's influential book plants of pray and then we discover late his back and forth between her and scientists all over the world Japan Europe America and more. Now look at these show in calculus professor of Botany in California. They rights again. Thanks for your comments and many. Thanks for the inspirational qualities. If you work in science we all have to build on the past and it was a pleasure to build on your fine book right so I mean He. You've got evidence of international scientists drawing on Rica's contribution Rica's work can books. She knew that if you took a child into the Bushra excursion school children into the Bush knew showed the mother trigger plants and showed them how operates you can have them cooked and so knowledge could expand and I think that's what Rica did. She was the first made. Botany more reachable by the people that sell the people who need to know like to know about what's going on in the environment. There are a few lovely twists to this tile. Eleven year old. Never at who recommit way back at that wildlife show went onto not school eventually to Cambridge University to do his PhD and later became head of the Western Australian herbarium himself the role. He Bena boy assistant to back in the nineteen fifties Charles Gardeners role and Naval Enrica went onto co author with others a book flowers and plants of Western Australia at multiple editions from nine hundred. Seventy three Rica also went on to become a noted social historian compiling the important dictionary of Western. Australians amongst other books. Do you think that your mother would've done? Botanical Science studied it officially Donna degree if she'd had the opportunity certainly nearest yes. Yes you would have made. Her books became. She was so thrilled when her books became textbooks for university studies in Botany is. That was not the chance for women to go to university. Not For her. She had brothers or sisters t needed to go out and work. There wasn't the money just to live in Perth and study university. I'm sure she'd have adored to be innocence. She was a scientist. It sounds to me do you think is she was us. They call them citizen scientists and she was a scientific citizen. Well let's put it this way. I never knew women were second class citizens until I got married because I've grown up in family where everything was equal Maury. My brother had dole's we all had McConnell so know that we almost supposed to be second class not do things which put me one generation ahead which is why I've done a lot of things. Goals are women. My Age didn't do because they were indoctrinated to be housewives in one thousand nine hundred eight. The government had a big seminar in camera on Women in science in Australia. They chose three times from western. Strata this Mommy Shirley de la the nuclear physicist and the nurse Educator Head of Kibera Edward Memorial Hospital so pleased to sleep so she was being acknowledged as a proper Pucca scientist given that she'd kind of operated incredibly prolifically scientific community officially at least even though she had a tendrils into the scientific community. What did the doctorate main that? Kind much lighter in her life. I think possibly didn't mean quite as much as when they first made her books university texts. That really really was very thrilling for her. But then of course Steve Hopper got into botany through reading. Mothers books is that so hopper became head of kings part botanical gardens and Gardens in London and it also local. Wabc boy head handed for q before his ability to attract money. But yes no he. He told me himself he called into it. Because of his interest was all stop and he'd picked up one of her books probably early on well. Compulsory studied botany away but she was very chapped. Getting the doctorate mice. We'll see those yes. The isn't today's early. Ah because she started drawing again in here I didn't she after she had cataract operation. She could see liberated a Beautiful Auburn. Ninety six hundred seats that original on their yet that Rica return to painting in her eighties joining the botanical artists group. The bags and cheekily dubbed her. The old bag climbed artist Philip. Nick Linski groups driving force and who we heard from last week was the superb bag botanical artworks gives so.
"australian herbarium" Discussed on Science Friction
"Something was just around the corner financial merchant that would change the course of his life and in that exchange a lifelong friendship with triggered to Dorothy gala. Lovely to meet you. Thanks for having me what's Level. I'm Dorothy Ericsson Jeweler right Boston's and Enrique's storage. Which is probably why you're here and you're an historian as well. Well I think of mothers for two novice the wasn't born saying mummy and Daddy. I said why how win. Dorothy Erickson born nineteen thirty. Nine is an internationally renowned jewelry designer. We'd always been trained to look things. We'd been trained to search for wildflowers driving a car along a road. Mother would yell. Stop Three Hundred Meters Daddy. We hit the back and there was a little plant. We'd been trained to tell one bird from another one plant from another had enquiring minds. I can days sitting outside with the glass and the piece of cardboard watching a wasp coming in going timing it and catching it and we'd be sent out to catch any in six. That were flying around an mother would put them in a killing jar which was plaster of Paris with cyanide. Gas or something in the bottom. They killed the insects really smartly and then she would send them out to salt and Raymond who was into malicious in Queensland and he would name them now is named for me in a billion for me to nine for me and one nine for Daddy. Life was like that all will be off watching curlers or something over looking for booboo cal's or collecting sandalwood nuts and making things but we've always had great interest in the dresser. We used to make rating from the bulbs of some very big flat leafed one and then walking through the Bush in if the little sticky bits clinging to your legs as you walking through the books are but just got me so you would drawn into the world of kind of risk plant and her fascination them it wasn't just because main when she was doing the awkward but we were all during orchids and winning out of pocket money with pictures the Hukou shows and things like that so all of us drew but there was always the knowledge that we'd never be quite as good as mommy because who could drawings indefinitely much much better than month. So one's always striving to live up to mother but like her who was a prolific teacher artist Historian citizen. Dorothy ease scrape polymath as well a key writer an art historian and author including of the book a joy forever a history of Perth stunning Kings Park Botanical Garden. Beautiful Rose Yes. That one's mother's love your past pink very delicate. Dorothy remember life on the farm. Her parents built ball. God Two hours north of I see was a farmer's wife with all the responsibilities that go with that housework was done on Monday when the rest of the week. Two days was teaching the four bus until it was a school bus and then she had the rest of the time to be able to work and work with what she wanted to do more. She did and work was very much about plants at that time. Yes indeed it was. She got her passion from parts from my great grandmother on the Goldfields in boulder the wonderful flowers at the end up. Great Grandma's garden a great sense of freedom. A wide open landscape. You could see for miles. These is Rica Erickson herself in an interview held in the car of the State Library of Western Australia. And if when you went Bush. Of course a lot lot of trees have been cut down and affect that you could see so so free and easy and wonderful. She started painting wildflowers but when she was out one t school this it was a lady rode a motorbike. Don't mind the dry red earth and like the tawny colors of the dying vegetation the yellows silvery colors and the creamy colors through to the yellows. And the docks draw colors that you get when you see a whole lot of Bush that's just dried of it stirs me as much as the beautiful fresh colors of the Greens and others. Rica was drawing exhibiting art collecting carefully documenting the native plants around her and then she started writing books that really broke new ground and a friends mile. Scientists who were fellow members of the W. I. Naturalists Club Sore her scientific talent and advocated for her meanwhile when Budding Botanist Naval Martin Turn Fifteen and somehow he landed a job as herbarium assistant to one. Mr Charles Gardner. The government botanist head of the Western. Australian herbarium you were there ultimately to be child gardeners dog's body. Yes in a way. Though he was a very independent person he was. He was a Nice Jab. You've been tolerant of young people and probably women as well. Rica contributed an awful lot to the Western Australian herbarium. Lots and lots of space. Men's do you remember Rica Erickson being in touch with the herbarium when you were the two child Gardner the government botanist? Yes I do. I'm a she used to come in and consult things particularly when she was writing the book on the trigger plants West Australia and she would come in and just work through. The fault is very diligently very quiet and she didn't really want to cause waves but Michigan didn't people working on other things in his flora. So I think he probably gave her a little bit of the cold shoulder. Had Chief feel about that? Did she ever talk about that about not being upset about it? You don't really locked. Be Put down. He was the authority and he fought using interfering woman. Why do you think that he was threatened by her? If that's what it was. He wanted to do all the planting Western Australia himself. That of course he wouldn't live long enough to do the twelve thousand and Mukta west of West. They just didn't want to share. He wanted the all the glory for himself. But why do you think a woman lock you? Mom Rick Eriksson would pose a threat to him. She would help him in these codes. I really can't go into the mind of Charles Gardner but he certainly did not like. Mother made lot very difficult for her. In what ways? Well he wouldn't help with naming new plan to helping her if she needed to know what was a new plant or not but Charles Gardner deed. It seems except Rica's donations to the Western Australian herbarium as Laura and I are about to discover okay so we've arrived at the herbarium then he before. Yes I've been a few times in Undergrad and other events and things Hello John. This is lower skates patch. Botany student at University with an Australian Kings Park. Name's Dr John Eastman the curator of the witness train barium which is part of the Department of Biodiversity.
"australian herbarium" Discussed on Science Friction
"Region. A third of the world's congress plants of right hundreds of spacey's in the world. Yeah yes and yeah we've got. Yeah maybe a quarter or a third of them here in wwl. Very special. Why why. So many controversies plants in W Y definitely part of the reason. Why would be the fact that we've got such old ancient soil? So you know W is a very ancient landscape and soils have had a long time to have all been nutrients leached away so a lot about plants have had to adapt to get the nutrients in an unusual way and being kind is just one of those ways that they can do it. It's really incredible because we've had such a long history of isolation renowned botanist Dr Naval margin was director of the West Australian herbarium for many years. In fact as you'll hear next week he started as just a boy a boy. Incomplete love with canvas plants. Which is when he first met the extraordinary Rica. Erickson his story. I'm going to be chasing next week. He's lucky enough to even have a kind of risk plant named after a dresser March Anti. I'm totally jealous of that. I have to admit coming from Gondwanaland. When it broke up and USTRALIA move northwards westeners trailer was effectively separated from the rest of the world. Even the rest of Australia and plans to develop their own characteristics. Their own species developed out of a stock which was very Australian and certainly Gondwana origin. And I think what happened? They was the so many issues involved. The flowers and plants a Western Australia in collaboration with all sorts of other organisms fungi. Cetera as well as the animals and pollination in particular that the situation was just right for there to be a fantastic explosion of species in the southwest and draw were amongst those and certainly what happened with outdraws Rozelle son. Jews is that they've really adapted to living in a Mediterranean type climate. That is dry. Summers and wet winters. I watched the alive how they have survived and it's the old the better than the his ancient but also the new when when this been a fire in the new comes through and it is so amazing that the wind has being a fire. And it's just black and then every new plan has its moment of glory then and you can see it and you can find it in. You can see things you've not seen before and you think how long those seeds been sitting there waiting for this moment laws kind. Plants have adapted to Western Australia's extreme climate landscapes in all sorts of wild ways. Yeah so kind of plants that have a lot of them are so well adapted to not only capturing prey but also attracting them some of them use sense slacker. Kind of honey. Lie or milly kind of garbage sort of sent. Some of them have amazing. Uv light sort of patents which insects can say directs them into the TROTTA. Sticky plants adhesive traps sticky. His the pitfall trap little cut with a little lid and insects will climb up the side of the cup. Try and get some NAFTA at the back of the League and then they'll find the rim of the Cup is quite slippery and they will top lane. Yup that's it. Yeah there's a pool of digestive juices just waiting for them. The one that is probably the most famous would be the Venus flytrap. They've got that little snap trap with a leaves shut together really quick around the price. Venus fly traps are endemic to north and South Carolina in the US. We've also got the trickle area. It's like a little kind of Ladda or kind lock bag. I guess with a trap door usually. They're either underwater or in very very moist soil and water will Russian like vacuum that pulls the water in and pulls the prion as well bloody terrifying. Yeah exactly and the last kind The kind of plants that have a corkscrew trap and it's basically like a modified leaf underground. That kind of like a coil. Insects starts going inside the coil. The only way it can go always fullwood because as backwards facing his con back-back creepy. Isn't it the big question of your PhD? Nowadays how can even worse The coniferous plants. That you'll studying. Yeah yes that's it. Yes I I want to know. Basically how much do they actually rely? On the PRI- They capture to get the nutrient say nate. Sorry flies which had address her right. He had to catch them. Yeah I want to see whether there are patents in how kinda verse different kind of I plant saw. Do we say the ones that? Adp are bit less. Ooh We've got a little friend coming to join our interview bobtail Lizard Key. Dd wrestling clock. Dumpy tile thought That's a snake. That's just behind you. We might WANNA pull us the lead so I want to look at how much the kind of plants actually rely on the private that catching because they can get nutrients from the soil three they routes but they can also get nutrients from the pride that they catch what they leaves And I want to see what that nutrient bounce like. And whether there are any patterns you know some kind of response more diverse than others. And why are they? So I'm using stable isotope techniques some elements like nitrogen for example an essential nutrient had different versions of the atom. Some which have an extra neutron in that which just makes them a little bit. Heavier doesn't change them chemically. Just be heavier. If we took a hair sample from vegetarian person and a person that professor eating a lot of mate you would actually see in the head. Different levels of that nitrogen is tarp so the meat eater would have a high level of the heavy a- nitrogen isotope sorry especially the. Add little kind of plants. Don't really seem to be getting a lot of notch from private not that much different to Nankai diverse plants for me. What's interesting is why would they then be? Kinda verse What is because I've had to put a whole lot of Effort and energy into growing carnivorous features. That allow them to consume prion if they not extracting as much nutrient from private in. What's the point of putting that growing energy into something special lot that yeah exactly yeah? Amazing I mean amazing really. Isn't it but you get to do this work. Oh Yeah I feel very very lucky that I've been able to do this research. You talk about the idea of plant blindness a lot.
"australian herbarium" Discussed on In Defense of Plants Podcast
"History in Gainesville Where I worked for program pulled I dig by integrated digitized ties bwah collections and their mission and goals of the past nine issues that go ten year program to trion assist collections throughout the United States to digitize their collections so all of the geological and Paleontological Jacome naturally streak collections getting all of their information database and images captured of of the specimens across the US? And now. I'm at the national herbarium of New South. Wales is the collections manager and in three weeks obey the collections manager the Western Australian Herbarium. So I'm I'm moving back. Climbed purse full cycle around the world. So here I'm responsible for managing and taking care of saying being will the activities that happen in now one point four million specimen barium collection So herbarium collection consists of pressed dried plant specimens so specimens pickled in seventy percent ethanol or would collection which is slices of woods or sates. It's a whole gamut of flattens related to the floral diversity of New South Wales Australia and then across the world. Wow very exciting. And Lots of efforts being put in in in a lot of different places and and certainly more to come but you know when did all of this plant stuff start for you. I mean do. Did you grow up wanting to work in inner barium collection or just be a botanist or did you kind of discover plants later on throughout your childhood or education So I think I was influenced by my grandfather grandfather and then probably my father going vegetables out in the backyard. When I went to university I decided to do a science degree and and at that time was the first year to pick four subjects so I did you math physics chemistry because I wanted to become a chemist I actually and then the phone subject? I couldn't decide between zoology. Geology and Botany and so I ended up just picking Putney Kirk I didn't I really want to chop up. Animals and jealousy saint like a lot of rocks so that that was. That was how I ended up in. Botany Ni- really loved it. And so I went on to do Botnia soil science double major and then my PhD in Botany. Wow that's That's fun and I kinda like those serendipitous moments. But it's obvious that the seeds pun intended were sown early on through just good mentors and people in general. Yeah Yeah I mean I liked going out and I got a picture of me as a toddler with my best dress on. And that's what my mother is written underneath best address exclamation mark. And I've got it all down my front. Obviously being digging around in the Gob with dad so right on and probably a lot of listeners can empathize with that scenario in very cool. So herbarium work the Barium Wok. Yeah collections are extremely important and this is something that at least Excited to see is kind of gaining popularity eighty among popular science literature reporting. People are finally recognizing how important collections can be in. Obviously we still have a lot of work to do but what is collection Shen work mean to you. What what do you find most interesting about herbarium collections? And what do you find most useful about herbarium collections. So for me working in the collection is extremely exciting. Everyday everyday you I papa and you folder and discover a new and interesting specimen So for me..