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"westminster walk" Discussed on Spies of London

Spies of London

05:39 min | 3 months ago

"westminster walk" Discussed on Spies of London

"You can quite easily touch the stonework that used to be the headquarters of m. i five. It was wet. David cornwell on the carrier used to work guy. Little and maybe other famous names including thomas harris more later still great thing about second field. House is the history of the spy. Writers john bingham john kerry of all works there so it's not much of a leap to imagine that their early works. You know the spies that were in those books based effectively lacombe field house. It's why a lot of early john. The carrier books have locations around curves streets in south audley street in mayfair and it makes it really dramatic for me especially on the walk to imagine these guys at the time. Just normal agents john bingham i think account on his career as a writer. And that's how john kerry knew him. People say that. John bingham is the basis for george smiley but they were fairly normal agents at the time working for the british government in an office in london. Nothing to exotic about it and looking at the building today does absolutely nothing exotic about it. It's really nice building but it's not as grand as house the current headquarters and it's not on the scale of fox or cross the six headquarters either on westminster walk. We look at the new building which was opened in ninety four. And compare it to the old one. Broadway where jonah keri work later on in his career and they are vastly different in scale and scope. Ashley prefer the old ones. But that's a personal preference so the other good thing about letting field house is it's and my five was based when spycatcher the author of spycatcher chipita rodriguez was suspicious of his boss. Hollis and he thought that hollis was a russian spy elope p to wright. Wrote the book with a grudge against. Am i five effectively. There was some disagreement over pensions and pails at the end of his career. And the book has largely been discredited. It was very famous in the eighties because it was banned but it was not banned in australia. Got published their copies leaked over here. I've read it. It's a riveting rate is a fascinating book but it is the book of somebody who is absolutely obsessed with finding moles and spies behind every cupboard. Although it will be easy to blame. Peter right and say know as a fantasist. I actually honestly believed that the environment that these people working especially in these years when the world really moles and trading around kim philby worked fieldhouse to these people were real. They were traitors. they did exist and they were trying to work against britain america. And of course you've got five moles you think will why was necessary or seven or eight or nine and you start looking for them and then you think everybody suspicious and this is exactly why the trae to why. The mole is so pervasive. Why so attractive in culture in books and films because the traitor the liar is your friend your colleague the person next door the boss the wife the boyfriend the traitor is everybody. The traitor is normal and the tried to go to lengths to show normal. They are and.

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"westminster walk" Discussed on Spies of London

Spies of London

16:32 min | 5 months ago

"westminster walk" Discussed on Spies of London

"Something happened during and after world. War Two. The completely changed the nature of my five. AM I. Five is responsible for security on the mainland of Great Britain and Northern Ireland but they have no powers of arrest. So they cannot take people off the street without the corporation of the police although they are responsible for the security of Great Britain they do get involved in overseas actions, but clearly am I, five does not have and has never had the exotic cachet of six the. Overseas. Intelligence Agency. The people who at least in our common mythology put people in harm's way on a daily basis and dash around with guns in hot and really exciting locations and my five agents usually a sitting Morrison's carpark with a pair of binoculars if the lucky so much for the Meth as always the some truth in that and a lot of falsehood, lot of misunderstanding and my five agents have been involved in dangerous operations overseas. But the has always been this overlap and disconnect and. Parity. All of those contradictory words that you could use to try and explain that tracking bodies is never a clean cut case of well, this operation is am I six. This one is five because it's mainly based in. Britain. This one is h q because it's mainly electric surveillance that has never been easy and I used to say to people on the walk. Am I six tracks people at long range over a long time and it's the kind of early warning system. As an event or an attack or some problem comes closer in time perhaps the agents, the terrorists whoever they are arrive in Britain to carry out whatever it is they're planning. Responsibility then Hanzo to a my five, and then when it comes time to arrest people that hands over to the police and in theory in fact, am I six, seventy, five and G. C. H. Q. in the police, it's opposed to cooperate and collaborate in a seamless fashion anyone who has experienced of the public sector or indeed the private sector knows that large organizations find it hard to collaborate seamlessly especially when the stakes are high. So looking at the recent Manchester bomb attack on the music concert, it turns out that the Police Fire Brigade. Am I five everybody made mistakes ambulance service everybody made mistakes everybody seems that the inquest trying to? Massage their role in it. And you can see why because when the inquest happens first of all bad news, you don't have an inquest if it's gone well, what you tend to find as with any other walk of life is that blame starts to get attached. And what you need to make sure is that you and your organization don't get the blame or at least they don't get much of the blame as. This has happened with the corona crisis. It happened with the financial crisis. He happens every time there's a crisis there's a flood of as a fire grenfell people are trying to divert deflect blame, and that runs through certainly British culture and probably Western culture and the rest of the well to nobody wants to get blamed nobody wants to take charge. So when you have a larger complex investigation all. Of the agents are supposed to be represented and at different times but sometimes things go wrong. The reason I mentioned this now is that it was never certain that Emma five and my sakes would become the two main security organizations. In this country you can tell from the numbers a my nine which was responsible for escape innovation and and getting people out of come like coldest during the war. Clearly, have no purpose wants to us over one day I'll do an episode on. Am I, want him I to rest of them, but you get the feeling that there is a potential future where there is only one service which covers my five and six and J. C. H. Q. and possibly has powers of arrest lightly American FBI as well, or there's a few to add more than these two or three services they could be split up. And all the time that that is at least theoretically possible, you will get the situation where people are trying to protect their own organization. Even if it's the detrimental, another one added to this is that M, I five is responsible to the. Home Office. Whereas my sixers responsible to the Foreign Office. which again sets up trade constraints and differences and differences in leadership at the top level, which can filter down through the ranks. So it was never guarantee that am I five would become. The British. Security Service. There was never been a British secret service officially, there is the Secret Intelligence Service am I sex and the security service had my five. There is no organization with the official name. Secret Service. Put together and I five my sakes and H. HQ could be considered the British secret service in other words relatively off the grid certainly until nineteen ninety four, they were never officially acknowledged. Allah everybody knew they existed but this phrase that's used now plausible deniability. Helps them to get away with things that perhaps they wouldn't have been able to do today or in the past if they had been officially accountable and transparent in the way that perhaps the police and fire brigade have to A. Lesser extent, the regular military as well, and also during second world. War, there was o the Special Operations Executive, which shows that join a specific crisis. A new organization can materialize, and then at the end of the war, it was never guaranteed that SOS would be disbanded. It could have been rebranded and modified put could have continued. It just happened that the politics which had driven right through the war got the better of it and it got disbanded largely and the people who were not let go were merged into him I six. So this paints a picture of uncertainty especially at times of war and internal political crisis of any kind like the Northern Ireland troubles for example, this all goes to show. That five's existence as the Prime Homeland Security Service the Americans would call it. Homeland Security was never guaranteed at any point in its past and certainly isn't guaranteed today. So with that brief overview behind us, we can now look more closely at the buildings something. I didn't know that am I five was based at Watergate House in the strand from nineteen. Twelve until nineteen sixteen that was when it moved to sixteen Charles Straight for the rest of the first world, war after that war, it moves to queens gay to nine, hundred nineteen and then to Cromwell road in one, thousand, nine, hundred, twenty, nine, remember that this was when it was just thirty two people. So nothing like the Organization of today it's in. Nine hundred, thirty, four when Emma five first arrives at. Thames House on Millbank now it's certainly Thames House back then was the same size it is. Now it's quite clear lake. Building with some status and some history. But if there are only thirty odd people is pretty over three, didn't take the whole building and I understand it just took part of the top floor of what's called the South Block which his the block currently occupied now as things get really interesting because in the Second World War, always London was getting heavily bombed. So Am I five moved out I to one would scoops prison and then further out to blend him in nineteen forty now, it's pretty clear that it grew substantially joined the War that growth as we saw with? So a moment ago was not guaranteed to carry on those people could easily have been redeployed after the war but in fact, in nineteen, forty, five was, when am I five moved slackened fieldhouse, which puts it into may found cousin straight and into my mayfair walk and it stayed there for thirty years until nineteen, seventy six. So these offices do not move often he was second fieldhouse throughout John Kerry's career there through John. Bingham's career and people like Guy Little Thomas Harris Kim Philby all worked. At some time or another in Infield House, it moved to one forty, Gal shooting nine, hundred, seventy six since demolished where it stayed until nineteen, ninety four when it returned the Temps House this time to occupy the entire building, and there is now a northern operation center from five in Greater Manchester. Now, that is a response to domestic terrorism, but also to the reality that to secure such large island as Great Britain requires detailed intelligence beyond London and I. Think one of the witnesses of my five shown by the Manchester bomb is that it can be too large to respond efficiently. So the new northern Operation Center is certainly a step in the right direction and just recently some smaller departments like the Northern Ireland Office of moved out of Tim's house to give him I five even more space it seems to me that they earlier heads of them. I five were far more colorful and memorable than the current ones. Some famous ones who jump out to May after Vernon. Kell. who was the first one from nine? Hundred, nine, hundred, nineteen forte longtime. Percy STILLETO. Who Ride for seven years in the late forties Dick White Roger Hollis who Peter Right fingers spy. Never been proved or admitted by anybody. Stella Rimington. Who was the first female had of five in the early nineties Eliza Manningham Buller Dame manningham-buller whose father was in the secret service as well, and then more recently. Andrew. Parker has just recently given it up to guy called Ken mccullum, but it's really Vernon cal. Dick. Quite Hollis would have been Kim Philby parallel universe who stunned out as the founding fathers. The people who really got 'em I five going and sustained. After the war as well. So that's a brief history, a brief look at 'em, I five through its buildings. You can see Tim's House on my Thames Walked Westminster Walk and like Infield fieldhouse on the mayfair walk. Gala straight we can see our straight, but unfortunately, the building itself has gone just before we hand over to Paul for this week's Book Review. We have our final factoid. Did you know that Guy Burgess had dinner with Donald Maclean on the night they escaped Britain? That's not the facts on the fact. So it is that Guy Burgess was introduced as a man called Racha styles Roger Styles is a made up name quite obviously. But it's made up from two names used by Agatha Christie Roger. ackroyd was one of her murder victims and the affair at styles was one of her books hence Roger Style. Anybody who'd ever read Agatha Christie would immediately wrong the Foreign Office. Now without further ado, let's hunter. Paul for his review of Rowland Phillips a spy named often the nickname of Donald Maclean. Thanks Paul. So I I read this book when it came out as an e book and it is extremely well written is very readable strongly recommended but this copy is the heart have in my hand which was given to me indirectly from a deceased person I never met friend who is clearing out of the house. So the book knew that I was into spies and suggested I could take it and I'm really pleased that I did because the hardback is so much nicer than the kindle version. The first thing to note is that inside the covers there is printed. A top secret memo which records the final days in Britain Don McLean with times, coded references and cross-references. This is clearly an official government document which has been released from the archives and it shows that at seven thirty. PM. McLean introduced Guy Burgess to Mrs McLean as Roger Styles. They announced after dinner. They would be going off to see somebody else and might be away the whole night. Neither of them were ever seen again at least not in Britain Rowland Phillips is a professional publisher working for John. Murray is not writer. This is his first book. It's brilliant. Surreal shaming. More, it's very readable really well done. It's produced by bodily hack vintage of Vauxhall Bridge Road, which is the road where myself says so I I really wants to grab his second came out because Donald McLean is something often the `Nigma as the title suggests I think there are several reasons for this one is that he was a very serious career man vague successful person whereas the guy he escaped with Guy Burgess was now London character, a gambler drinker, a party animal very outgoing. So Guy Burgess eclipsed virtually everybody who knew it and he had a very mixed reputation people. Loved. Guy Burgess or they hated him and many people went off him as he is behavior got more Marlon dish. So Guy Burgess stands tall as a character Kim Philby was famous because he was so senior in the secret service and because of his press conference where he said he was innocent and because he got the prime minister to state that he was innocent Philby was always the media player and able to manipulate the media whereas was private man I think these things together plus the fact that he escaped at the same time as Burgess means that he's always lumped together. As almost as one person as as they do on instagram now where this is a famous couple and emerged two names to get one name and people just call them using that one mixed up name. So Burgess Maclean always seemed to be Burgess Maclean. It's never maclean and Burgess Burgess and maclean almost became one spy. This is interesting because McLean didn't really know Guy Burgess spent very little time together until they escaped. Of course, people say that Burgess was meant to come home that he was meant to be escorting and helping McLean, but he was meant to return and he decided. At the last minute to stay away, and of course, soon after their escape, the finger of suspicion pointed to Kim Philby who then stole the limelight for the next few years and I think these things together ten sa- lead us away from the McLean story because Philby Burgess and the famous Anthony Blunt steal the headlines The to get forgotten always McLean and Ken Cross and I think in these kind of stories, it's better for you and your family and your friends if you're the one who gets forgotten. So I think McLean's family obviously had an interest in making sure that he was, misremembered or diss remembered in the mists of time. But another particular reason I had for wanting to focus on mclane was that he is buried a few miles from my house in Penn Churchyard and I went to see his grave in twenty eighteen as a result of this book coming out and I have to say my photo which I'll put. On the website is much better photo than the one in the book minds and color for start pretty clear to me that they text on the memorial of Don, McLean's father dolled himself, and some other family members has has been refreshed and polished is much clearer today than it was when this photo in the book was taken the flap say here that. Ronald Phillips had a lifelong connections to Don. McLean. Any story I'm not surprised. I think most of the British establishment had some kind of connection to the Maclean family. So Don McLean Donald do art McLean was a family man with a wife Melinda and two sons Donald and Fergus and I think this sets him apart as well. Kim Philby was married but was never commented on as a family man a true father. Burgess seventy not blunt not it's whole either so he was quiet. He was professional. He was committed to his cause do was a family man his father was part of the British temperament and he's drifted into the midst of time and I think this book more than any other book about McLean really brings not ho it says in the back cover that he was a diplomat, the husband Patriot, a traitor deceive when. A spy he was all of those things he was a massive contradiction and this is a very well written well researched data book, but it is still very readable. So I strongly recommend this to you either the e book audiobook all the hardback I particularly enjoyed heart buckling is a really Nice edition I strongly recommend it to if you want to learn more about the Cambridge five over say dealers do make an Appearance, but I think Donald Payne has been less well served by books and papers in both burgess onto filthy and to a lesser extent blunt as well. That's all I have for you this week. Pleased to give us a follow at a review on your favorite podcast APP. Remember these podcasts are completely free forever view to download I listen to wherever you like to listen to. You casts spies of London will return..

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"westminster walk" Discussed on Spies of London

Spies of London

01:44 min | 6 months ago

"westminster walk" Discussed on Spies of London

"Welcome to Spies of London the Westminster walk part 3 I left you outside artillery Mansions, but Prime do for a walk towards Saint James's Park in the foreign office. I did mentioned that in recent years gchq have moved out of this area. They used to have an office in palmistry. However, it's impossible to locate on Google Maps. It should be labeled former gchc or something to make my life easier and I can't remember which side of the street it's on and it takes you quite a bit out of your way. So I will.

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"westminster walk" Discussed on Spies of London

Spies of London

02:15 min | 6 months ago

"westminster walk" Discussed on Spies of London

"Welcome to Spies of London the Westminster walk this walk begins at Pimlico Tube Station primarily because it's the nearest station to MI6 Vauxhall cross and it is therefore quite easy to get to for tourists particularly people who don't know London that well, there are buses as well serve the area of Pimlico quite well and yourself is a short walk from Victoria Station. So the first thing you'll notice when you arrive at Pimlico is there are a lot of exits or at least more than one and more than one exit, especially if it's on a different street.

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"westminster walk" Discussed on Spies of London

Spies of London

02:58 min | 7 months ago

"westminster walk" Discussed on Spies of London

"Welcome to Spies of London the Westminster walk. So I'm getting ready to record the Westminster walk. This is the one that begins at Pimlico Tube Station by the National Crime agency doubles back through Pimlico towards dolphin Square. That's an apartment building famous for spying and other things into the gardens opposite and then a look at the American Embassy the new American embassy at nine Elms a short Riverwalk a look at MI6. That's Vauxhall cross the current MI6 building which opened in 1994 carrying on along the embankment took a state and towards Tim's house the current home of MI5 and then walking through Westminster itself looking at Westminster school where Kim philby went Marshall Court which is friends with Maura Southfield the home office the new home office the old home office, which is now the ministry of Justice the home of George Blake santoni's Hotel the new Olde Scotland Yard, because it's not long. The headquarters of the British Union of fascists not necessarily in this order Broadway buildings, which is the former home of MI6. So you can contrast the kind of former. You would have seen or heard off of the old MI5 building on the Mets phone York, which I have recently which is like if your house on cars and string and then after Broadway buildings, we talk behind their into Queen Anne's gate where you see another month old even older headquarters of MI6 in Mansfield coming today an army office used by Clayton Powell and were down cockpit steps into some James's Park walk along the edge of Saint James's Park which was famous off buying in its own right and then finally standing outside the treasury in the foreign office to talk about the foreign secretary and the foreign office and how that relates to MI6 in particular and then if there's time you can take a walk down to the police memorial which is in the other colony of the horse guards area of Saint James's Park in the mouth. You can go home from the mail catching a bus in Trafalgar Square, or you can catch the tube from Westminster dog. So that's the basic outline of the walk the order changes and sometimes the direction changes. When I do this in person, sometimes I think it's good to start in the busy area and in the work gets gently quieter as it proceeds, but if you end up stranded in Pimlico, which has only one tube station, it's not enough great line. You have to go to Victoria and changing so on so that's why we start in Pimlico cuz that's kind of the easiest place to start because you literally outside each station and then I can leave you towards Saint James's Park which is essential part of London and very well served by buses. So there are some tips for you if you'd carrying this walk out in person or if you're interested in joining us off at B&B in the option. I'm not going to start recording episode one which starts at the National Crime agency tune in soon for this walk. home.

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"westminster walk" Discussed on Today in Focus

Today in Focus

07:23 min | 2 years ago

"westminster walk" Discussed on Today in Focus

"Completely in the words of deceased, prime minister, Lord, Oxford Nasc with waking see. Sweetie. Interesting that Jacob Frey smoke is arguing, but yes, the party is divided essentially, Tori, still have the same values, and the the party will definitely survive this. I just want to talk to someone on the other side of this debate some Jima, he wasn't minister, he quit over Brexit. He also liked Jacob has voted against the prime minister's deal. But for very very different reason. He's worried about the idea of a hard Brexit or no deal Brexit, and he even thinks that maybe we should have a second referendum. Some you're sitting in the chamber waiting to tool you desperate to take. No dealer for table. Just thinking to Jacob rees-mogg. He feels very different to you on this one. I think I mean, the the we the way to put it is the conservative party has always been known as the party of business, and we've got a Ponti. Now that is with regard knowing the consent of the overwhelming number of businesses to deliver a brick to that. I do not believe the voters voted for somehow, the leave spokespeople. Have had the whip hand they have defined what leave is the shifted the gopro. So what was hard Brexit during the referendum campaign is now seen us soft Brexit so in June a referendum campaign. They were all telling us that no way was fine, leaving Norway style turns. Now, if you propose Norway terms, they'd say, that's Brexit in name only in their look at you. Like you want to have Janklow young children. Them. Such bodies divided on this issue. But I think the labor party is divided and the country's divided. I have constituents you right to me in some the husband writes to me with the different edgy me to do something completely different to the warriors had a wife and husband right, different letters, expect them to have the same views Oviously, but it is serious for the conservative party's as if we are going to be a coherent governing party that we need to come to. It could hear and position on Brexit. Twenty five people have got shot leadership campaigns already underway is there. Of action going on in the conservative side what I shudder leadership. I realized what when people suddenly say to use them. What do you think about the future of the party? All that's the conversation. You want to have and those conversations are going on. But I think it is it is it is this is serious stuff. And for politicians to be thinking about going to what job they get next. And who's kind of not really wanting? We're sent here for this time, you seem quite emotional. I mean, what does it feel like to leave the government to stop being a minister because of this before I did it. I was very unsure since I did it. I feel liberated I feel liberated because I can actually speak out. I can speak out on. What is probably the most important issue our ever Everton. How'd you feel right now is about to go back in sit back down and try and catch off has. I you find me up. I'm ready to go. All right. Thank you very much Jima. This is one of the most important debates in the Brexit process because we decide Wednesday night was jaw-dropping with MP's voting to take a no deal. Brexit off the table forever that caused threes. A may to whip against her own motion with cabinet ministers breaking a three line whip. But not being sacked tonight. Ten we're at Westminster where MP's voted against leaving the EU without a formal agreement. The right three to one the notes left two hundred seventy eight. The Neagle default the folds in UK and do you remains the UK will leave the EU with ASA deal? Unless something else is agreed tonight angry and bewildered having a gun to my head to vote for a wretched deal. Not to leave. Just bumped into some, Jamie. He's just been on television. And you've been there today for the crazy day. We saw you just before you're going to speak. Just tell me how unfolded when extraordinary and only work in summit all up is the prime minister haven't told us yesterday that she's against new deal ended up voting for new deal today because of all the chaos and confusion that happened in the house of Commons, and it felt emotional furious in parliament today, I've never seen anything like it. What did it feel to be sitting in that chamber, desperate people? Did it the MP's wearing show which were voting? The clearly that whips are stretched too thin. They hadn't really organized the government's ID had cabinet ministers of staining. The headlines this morning as devote on whether to us the EU permission to delay Brexit beyond the March the twenty nine th deadline. So it is now there's a morning we all back in Westminster. Walking into parliament from the back, and we're going to see Shelly phone sectarian, Emily film break. I'm why we saying because this is a crazy week. What the hell is gonna do next. I'm all right. Life. You do find myself a note normally never go to bed before one o'clock in the morning. I find myself asleep by eleven if I get the phones, and I really am just I'm exhausted. At the end of the day gonna say really tiring, we just don't know what's going to happen. Thanks Labor's in an easy place. I mean, we had rain last night. She says it will be disastrous. If you have a second referendum because we will fail to get a consensus hair is not speaking of the politics. I mean, it's not the view. Well, I mean, I think the context of she was saying it was that she was talking about the importance of democracy and parliamentary democracy, so labor has as always gone on the basis that we have to nobody voted to be poorer or to lose their job. We have to look off to the economy. I'm Joe the answer. And I agree absolutely on that. So really the question is how do we do that? And and also sticks the results of the referendum. And of course, it means that we've been trying to push for what's caricatured as off Brexit. But if in the ends, we just got completely stock. There is I Tokyo low jam I'm afraid we have to go back to the people in them the deadlines looming closer, if we are to leave the even if it say with a softer Brexit that you'd be how do you think it would write you? Yeah. I'm an internationalist. I'm a European. I don't want us to leave Europe, Ian union. I really don't. I didn't think it does any good. I never thought that I will be in this position. But I'm doing it in good faith. And as I say who knows what will happen. But you know, next week we will be trying to put something together we will be trying to find a solution that will pass through parliament. And if we add if we have, you know, we go back to the people, I know which way all voting I'll be voting to remain. Not.

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