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"western energy alliance" Discussed on Mornings With Gail - 1310 KFKA
"That's the intent isn't it. yes it in the name of climate change. We're going to kill oil and gas production in the united states but that doesn't decrease our need to use oil and natural gas. It just means we import it from russia and opec in saudi arabia and iran. And all those kind of friendly countries and then let's talk a little bit about Nancy pelosi's latest entree into the pork market With this presidio. It's it's it's really hypocrisy because right now. Oil and natural gas provides about two point eight billion in conservation and national parks funding every year. So we have the source of conservation funding and parks funding yet. Nancy pelosi wants to kill this industry but at the same time in this conciliation bill. There's three point five trillion spending package She wants two hundred million for the presidio. Which is a park in her district. That is supposed to be self sustaining. Because it has nice swanky golf courses in office stations and hotels and it's supposed to be revenue generating and all these profit generating Businesses are in the park Yes suddenly congress needs to give two hundred million dollars to it. Just doesn't make sense. Absolutely and i mean once again at the very epitome of bringing home the bacon. I have to wonder kathleen now joe. Manson has ruffled democrat feathers. Before when it comes to their rather spend ways and i suppose i should probably include republicans in that equation as well so much for Conservative spending habits on both sides of the equation. But you have to wonder is Senator mansion going to hold his ground or when it comes to this budget reconciliation bill. Is he going to fold like a cheap suit. Well we don't know at this point. I think it was a pretty clear indication by writing an op-ed that Something's got to change so now. The three point five trillion become two point five trillion. You know i. I don't know how how much he's going to hold Right now all. The republicans are You know not planning to vote for the bill. But nancy pelosi is trying to make Some of the moderate democrats who are in trump districts She's trying to make them walk the plank and vote for a three point five trillion dollar package. Which has all kinds of things that would be bad for the economy green new deal type provisions and you know are those democrats really going to walk the plank is joe. Manchin is saying wait a second. I can't vote for it so he's op-ed yesterday really does change the dynamic and we'll see how that plays out one can only hope kathleen scum. Oh president of western energy alliance. Thank you so much for your time for everything that you are doing. In order to strengthen oil and gas production across this nation. Where do we learn more about the western energy lions. Well we are at western energy. Lions dot org or at western energy one on twitter. Keep up the great work. Kathleen thanks so much. You thank you so much. Take a twenty now northern colorado's voice one or three one thirteen ten kfi k. A. this time tech sponsored by the candlelight dinner playhouse in johnstown bringing you an absolutely amazing production of footloose the musical september tenth through november. Fourteen th for tickets and showing formation jump online visit colorado candlelight dot com candlelight dinner playhouse in johnstown broadway in your backyard on colorado's voice and the leader. Prep sports is one zero.
"western energy alliance" Discussed on Mornings With Gail - 1310 KFKA
"Yes we've talked a great length about that greek alphabet soup of covert nineteen variants. And yesterday i kinda cracked myself up. It was kind of an inside joke to me. I mean or you could say it's great to me but talking about that a new variant and we haven't even discussed the won the lambda variants. I think i'm saying that correctly. Okay all of you. Greek aficionados there. Those who are well versed in all things greek. You can tell me if i'm pronouncing. I'm believe it's lambda and yesterday. I was playing around with the mou virus. It's actually pronounced mu. But i just couldn't help myself because once again it seems as though The politicians in their quest for consummate power and control their never ever going to let go of this pandemic which by the way will eventually morph into an end democ. If you think you're going to wipe out a stamp out covert nineteen. Well you might be deluding yourself because it will be with us for time immemorial but unfortunately they have traffic to in the politics of fear and fear is such a powerful motivator as we have seen over the past eighteen to twenty months because unfortunately with the delta variant continuing to surge. Well the litany of mandates restrictions everything related to kovic nineteen guidance That ever changing litany. I might add continues because they. They've instilled fear in so many of us. Well fear leads to power. Think about it. Power to as many Would agree to strip us of our rights and that leads to consummate ultimate control. But yeah you've got the world health organization monitoring monitoring this new corona byron's variant named mu or mou as. We're all expected to fall into line. Don't ask any questions now. Seven fifty two now northern colorado's voice one. Oh three one. Thirteen ten kfi k. Northern colorado's voice one or three one. Thirteen ten kfi. It's seven fifty. Six brawl brings rams football tune into rams week day. Thursday nights at five on northern colorado's voice. One zero three point one in thirteen ten. Kfi k have the western energy alliance three other industry trade association sending a letter to the house natural resources nitty expressing opposition to costly revenue raisers included in their legislative markup hearing the current version of the legislation check this out raises six billion dollars by increasing revenues and fees on oil and natural gas produced on public lands and waters. And then you have the western energy alliance and the petroleum association of wyoming well joining forces asking the court to overturn the administration's ban on oil and natural gas of leasing. Tell you what we're going to check in with kathleen scum gonna talk pelosi pork as well. So you wanna stay with us for that with a kathleen scott President of the western energy alliance when she joins us at eight. Oh five thirteen. Ten one zero three one. Kfi greeley closing in on eight o'clock..
"western energy alliance" Discussed on Mornings With Gail - 1310 KFKA
"We can't just ignore the law. So i think there's a tension and i don't know you know like i said could come out today. Could come out in two weeks. Who knows well. And don't oil and gas workers not only across the strait state but throughout the nation. They deserve to know. I think so when you're putting jobs at risk you would expect the at least that they had a plan and they were making progress on this review because when the interior department says they want to review something that probably means an environmental impact statement and those things take years to do so. We've already lost six months with no progress on that front and probably them embarking on some type of environmental analysis. That is going to take years to do so. Then why did they stop it. You know they should have at least waited till they knew what they were going to do before. You know just saying we can't do this anymore so you know it's it's putting jobs at risk and for what they can't even get their act together to do what they said they were going to do. Well and check me if i'm wrong on this. Catholics com by the way president of western energy alliance. We have had at least to my understanding achieved some semblance of energy independence but meanwhile as you pointed out in your piece great piece by the way in the denver post You had the biden administration spending the last month urging russia and opec to ramp up production. I mean literally encouraging foreign imports. Yes and russian imports have gone through the roof there at a historic high now. Which is fantastic right. So as they're making it more difficult for the american producer they're going out and saying. Hey but we want production from russia and saudi arabia. You know the the excuses always that we need to do it. Environmentally responsible manner. We need to review this. We need to make sure it's been down. We need to cut greenhouse gas emissions. Well people still need to drive their cars so we don't produce here under our strict environmental regulations. Then it gets produced in russia. Guess what. Russia doesn't have strict environmental regulations. Like we do. And then we're transporting that oil by you know by ship and so that is more greenhouse gas emissions as well so they have done something that is worse from the environment so changing gears very quickly So a deb haaland interior secretary dept holland Also visited grand junction hinting once again. It seems to be Something that at least it's consistent here. <hes> hinting that. The bureau of land management headquarters decision could come soon but unfortunately once again we're still kind of in limbo on that right right. Well i don't even know why a decision has to be made headquarters have been moved to grand junction. just leave it there Blm manages land mostly in the west. In fact ninety seven percent of the ellen is in the left so it makes sense to have the headquarters here because the decisions made by the l. m. affect westerners directly. You know not inside the beltway. Not focus on the east coast. It affects westerners whether it's a decision about wildlife conservation or recreation uses or oil and gas and other energy development. Those impact westerners so. Stay out. here. I was glad to see that she met with senator hickenlooper. I'm not sure if he's going to be able to convince her. Not but the headquarters should stay out in grand junction no doubt whatsoever kathleen schema president of western energy alliance We'll keep an eye on this a pleasure as always. Thanks so much for your time and efforts. Where can we learn more about the western energy lines. Thank you very much kaelin Sorry about my technical issues earlier. Energy alliance dot org thank you so much.
"western energy alliance" Discussed on TalkRadio 630 KHOW
"Alliance. And the Colorado chapter of the Sierra Club doesn't like oil and gas, apparently. So they decided that they were going to protest against the Western energy alliance that was having Golf outing earlier this week. And the way they did it. Was to fly an airplane. Over. The Western Energy Alliance is golf outing. And then they sent out a tweet about their protest. But but then, But then they deleted the tweet after a bunch of people pointed out to them. That they were pro testing fossil fuels by using an airplane that requires fossil fuels to fly around and so Oh, my gosh. And so, uh, now, actually when, when you go to the Sierra Club, Colorado Sierra Club's Twitter feed where they used to have that tweet of their their protests over the oil and gas groups event that tweet has been deleted. You know, this is the thing. When you're just so mindless and moronic that your goal in life is to end the production of the substances that made modern, convenient, comfortable life possible. Well, your brain dead enough that you won't realize your own hypocrisy. Right? You're you're Fighting against The things that let people drive to work and cook their food and heat their homes or cool their homes. Do this this time of year. And you know all these things, get on an airplane and take a vacation. You hate all of those things. And so when you're When your cult is as disconnected from reality as you must be to be part of a group like, you know, Sierra Club or or their worst groups in Sierra Club. There are parts of Sierra Club that, you know, care about the environment and, you know, making sure that the mountains are lakes and rivers are clean and stuff like that, but the real cultish part of these groups where there's against fossil fuels. There. There's so moron IQ and anybody anybody who is part of a group whose goal is to eliminate the use of fossil fuels. They should really They should really be ashamed of themselves right and they should be ridiculed at every turn, and I'm saying Even if it's your aunt, you know you should ridicule her about this until they stop and don't back down. And don't let them say Oh, you don't care about the planet like the bottom line. Is this these environmentalists? They don't really care about the planet. They just hate people. Pretty much. That's what it's about. They hate people because otherwise they wouldn't want to make it impossibly expensive for you to have a job or cook your food or heat your home. Um, but, uh, those people those lunatics are are in charge. Right now. In Washington, D C. You will recall that one of the first things That Grandpa Joe did was to cancel the federal permit for the Keystone XL pipeline. Now the Keystone XL pipeline would take oil from the Alberta oil sands. And route it via this pipeline to places mostly in the southern US where it would be refined into products that we would use gasoline for our cars in oil for other things in yada, yada yada now it's not like Without this pipeline. They're not going to produce the oil instead of what will happen is they will produce the oil and it will just be transported in ways that are more dangerous and also create more pollution. Through the forms of transportation. And then it will, uh, to some degree, especially to the degree that they end up sending in any of it overseas. It will be refined. In ways that also use more energy for the refining and create more pollution in the process of refining because America has very efficient Refiners. If they end up sending a bunch of this to China, China is going to refine. In a way it's going to put a lot more pollution into the air. By the way, I'm not talking about carbon as pollution. Carbon is not pollution. It's plant food. I'm talking about real pollution particulate matters and sulfates and all that stuff. And, of course, the transportation. When you kill the pipeline, you're going to have to transport that the oil by trucking by train. And those have quite high risks of accidents and big spills. And all that, anyway, the reason I mentioned all this after, uh Grandpa Joe, who does Seem like, you know, he might be a candidate for the new Alzheimer's drug. Not that the new Alzheimer's drug, not that we know that it works. But you know, he and his wife made like 16, or $17 million after leaving the White House from speaking fees, and I think she wrote a book and that sort of thing so You know they could They could try the new drug. See? See if it would help him anyway. The company That Is behind. Keystone Exhale used to be called Trans Canada and now they're called TC energy. They announced yesterday that they are giving up. On the Keystone XL pipeline. They've decided to terminate the project, according to CNN business terminate after a comprehensive review of its options and consulting with the government of Alberta, Canada. The company said it would coordinate with regulators, stakeholders and indigenous groups to ensure a safe exit from the project. The cancellation ends more than a decade of controversy over the pipeline and marks a big win for environmentalists who argued the project threaten the environment and would only worsen the climate crisis. God these people are dumb. Just I know. Listen in My dad may be listening right now. And, Dad, If you're listening, you can text me and tell me my, uh My dad doesn't like it when I call people, dumb or stupid or something on the air. And yet I'm just These days. I'm just so Loss to come up with other words, you just stupid is such a understandable direct word. Everybody knows what it means. Yet we can come up with all kinds of other euphemisms for it. And people know that dumb is pretty good, synonym for stupid most of the time, and I just I feel bad when I use that word sometimes because I know my my dad has cautioned me against using the word stupid too much on the air, but we're surrounded by so much stupidity. I just Don't know what else to do. Oh, my gosh. I mean, listen to these people. Kendall Mackey, campaign manager of this group called 3 50 dot org in their their campaign is called, Keep it in the ground right because they do not want you to be able to drive to work or heat your.
"western energy alliance" Discussed on Mornings With Gail - 1310 KFKA
"So let's talk about those Trees of green shall we well under the new great american outdoors. Act the two point. Eight billion with a b annually that congress directed to address the twenty billion dollar maintenance backlog on public lands primarily come from oil and natural gas revenues that are generated from onshore and offshore leasing. But think about this as the existing inventory of leases runs out. Under the president's policies. Royalties will eventually be eliminated. Creating a gap in available funds for conservation now while congress and to some extent rightfully so is taking all the credits for a passing of the great american outdoors. Act right before the contentious two thousand and twenty election. Well unfortunately they don't want to talk about the future funding gap nor do they want to address how they're actually going to prevent it from happening. Kathleen scam is president of western energy. Alliance wrote a great piece in the hill. That basically says it all. I'll let her tell you. Kathleen welcome back to the show. Thanks for having me. I appreciate you taking the time as always but yeah great piece in the hill because this is kind of like well be careful what you wish for an unintended consequences right. So the thing that the administration doesn't want to knowledge is that their conservation funding comes from oil and natural gas revenues Cole has some put some revenue in a much smaller than oil and natural gas and We all know what they're trying to call anyway so Fossil fuel fun conservation on public lands they fund the Infrastructure seem to be having some technical difficulties this morning ryan if You would if you wouldn't mind gift. Kathleen yeah great. A callback certainly do appreciate that. As our conversation with western energy alliance president kathleen s- comma will continue. But as i said great piece in the hill because well they seem to be working. Congress does along with the president biden. They seem to be working at odds conveniently forgetting as the oil and gas wars role on a not only across the state but indeed across the nation. They seem to conveniently forget that. They're biting the very hand that feeds them. Kathleen scammer western energy alliance president back with us kathleen there. Yes sorry about that. No right exactly you know. We're we're providing revenue back to the american tax. Payer we provide the funding for conservation. And we get vilified all the time. Hey we're kind of used to it though. Sadly that is the case so you just have to keep fighting the good fight but you know you'd look for example and i mean. I can't believe that this is escape. Their notice but this great american outdoors funding again courtesy of the villain in their story oil and natural gas. Well isn't threatened by president biden's ban on new federal oil and natural gas releases. That's right so there's a ban on new leasing so it's not you know there are existing leases. It's not gonna take all the revenue away immediately but the goal of this administration and the president said it in the in the debates right. He said no oil on federal land. That's his ultimate goal. So is he has no oil and natural gas on federal land then he has no conservation funding. So i think they've kind of forgotten it. I think they're trying to either forgotten it or they just hope that people don't really notice so that's why we are trying to get the word out now western energy alliance. I mean you got behind the great american outdoors act last year right. We did we. Did you know we really look at it as we're stewards of the land and we'd rather have the revenue that we provide the billions of dollars. We provide back to the american taxpayer. We'd rather have some of that. Go directly back into those national parks and public lands. Because you know it's a better use of those resources than just going into the federal treasury so we then we help tie development of energy on non-park non wilderness lands. Because we don't. We don't drill a national parks and wilderness areas. Obviously but we tied that development that we do directly into conserving and keeping up our national parks and other public land. So we think that's a good tie in since we are operating on public lands and were returning the energy that all americans own to them so that they can use that they get revenue from that and they get conservation kathleen to it's so frustrating because once again as we have seen with the ongoing calls to fund the police although now that narrative seems to be flipping with refund the police but oil and gas Natural gas energy workers those in the coal industry like Law enforcement all vilified and demonized too. Because oh well. They're not stewards of the environment that seems to be the pervasive pervasive prevailing narrative when nothing could be further from the you know it is unfortunate that our police officers who keep us safe are vilified You know we see what happens when we keep them from doing their job. Effectively we have crime rates or it is unfortunate that those who produce the energy that powers eighty percent of our energy use. Coal oil natural. Gas it is discouraging that we are vilified. I think it's because people just take for granted and then we saw with the colonial pipeline when people don't have gasoline they realize. Oh my gosh. How am i going to get to work. How am i going to go on vacation so it you know it highlights that we do depend on this energy now because it's a bad thing because it's an addiction though because it provides a benefit to society and we'd be much poorer and much worse off if we couldn't get around easily if we couldn't heat our homes if we couldn't run our on air conditioning so we do get taken for granted for us to it. You know. we're not you know right. Yeah exactly yeah. You certainly have to great piece in the hill. It is still up online. Just google great american outdoors not possible without oil and natural. Gas senate will pop up in scholar. President western energy alliance. Oh your take on things and your ability just you know. Cut through all the noise and get right to the point. Tell us about.
"western energy alliance" Discussed on Mornings With Gail - 1310 KFKA
"Us district court in wyoming by the western energy alliance as i mentioned this is a group representing representing fossil fuel producers on federal lands. They say that president joe biden exceeded his authority With the recent executive order. So you had President kathleen scum. In a statement to the washington times saying the law is clear presidents. Do not have authority to ban leasing on public lands. All americans own. The oil and natural gas beneath public lands and congress has directed them to be responsibly developed on their behalf but she wasn't done yet. Drying up new leasing puts future development as well as existing projects at risk president biden simply cannot ignore laws in effect for over half a century. Now seems as though. That's his intent. The executive order by the way in case you want specifics. According to scott violates the mineral leasing act the national environmental policy act and the federal land policy and management act the lawsuit itself argues that the administration suspension of the federal oil and gas leasing program is quote and unsupported and unnecessary action. That is inconsistent with the secretary statutory obligations and is both arbitrary and capricious. What's the back story. Well by executive order sets up a pause on entering into new oil and natural gas leases on public lands or offshore waters to the extent possible and it will also launch a rigorous review of all existing leasing and permeating practices related to fossil fuel development on public lands and widers white. House course said the move is in an effort to tackle the climate crisis. Here's the problem and i mean. Are they really thinking. This narrowly or are they simply pandering to their rather agitated. Far left base with this. Let's talk about emissions okay. Even if the us were to achieve zero emissions it would be dropped in the pocket when you look at the emissions that are being put out by the likes of india and china so again this is just nearly merely a nod to the radical laughed at the expense of national security and among not crossing the line here in connecting those dots at the expense of national security for this nation. Because you've got to remember how important how significant energy independence actually is to any given nation and to make us dependent once again on those nations that despise us for the energy that drives this nation. I'm not saying be irresponsible. I'm not saying dirty our own nest. That would be ridiculous. That would be absolutely absurd.
"western energy alliance" Discussed on Mornings With Gail - 1310 KFKA
"The assault on american energy workers continues This with executive order of palooza. Yes did you realize in a build back better administration mile right now for all intents and purposes particularly if you're in the oil and gas industry it's more of a job killing administration. Yes yesterday was climate day. And what did we learn from a climate day. Wow we got more information about president. Joe biden sweeping reforms to curb pollution from those dreaded evil. Fossil fuels well reaction. According to a piece by dennis hispanic in gazette. Well came pretty quickly in the form of criticism praise and yes as kathleen Scott who is president of the western energy alliance Told us just a few days ago. Yes at least one lawsuit courtesy of the western energy alliance now colorado gas industry representatives warned of shocker pending severe job losses in the state while conversely comes as no surprise environmental groups and governor. Jared police praised the new rules as appropriately aggressive and yes the western energy alliance announced that it did indeed as kathleen scott told us file a lawsuit challenging president joe biden's executive order banning oil and natural gas leasing on federal public lands. You know it was fascinating during that a far-reaching conversation with kathleen scott with the western energy alliance where she said. Here's the deal to borrow a phrase. Come on the problem. Well there are many. There are numerous problems with this Sweeping revamp that basically is going to take us from an energy independent nation to one dependent on other nations argued that when it comes to this particular executive order that we're playing right into russia's hands now understand that joe biden and president biden and the vlad stir vladimir putin did have a conversation yesterday where president biden or perhaps. It was the day before yesterday. Check me on that. If i'm wrong but apparently energy wasn't part of the conversation was just a whole lot of huffing and puffing from joe biden saying. Don't you dare. Don't you cross us because there will be a swift and severe repercussions of course the content turf. The specific content of that conversation. Well not exactly abundantly clear but yes. The biden administration sued just yesterday over that executive order to halt oil and gasoline on federal lands and waters this kathleen s- told us here. Here's what you need to understand. You see i if you are working a piece of land that even bumps up against just touches the boundary of a federal designated lander waters as the case may be but let's just the relegate. The conversation for the purposes of this discussion to federal lands even nudges the boundary of one of those protected areas. Well so much for those leases. Now as i understand it. Existing leases are protected. But once again it's one of those stories it's kind of a cautionary tale because this arguably is just the beginning. This is the first swipe at well. Basically knocking the legs out from under the oil and gas industry now. The lawsuit itself was filed in..
"western energy alliance" Discussed on KQED Radio
"Change, including a new ban on some energy drilling. In fact, it's a complete overhaul. The orders aimed to freeze new oil and gas leases on public lands on double offshore wind produce energy by 2030. President Biden stress that in his administration climate change will be at the heart of big, long term strategic decision making. It's a whole of government approach put climate change of the center of our domestic national security and foreign policy. Advancing conservation. Vitalizing communities and cities and in the fall on the farmlands and security, environmental justice Our plans are ambitious. We are America. We're bold or unwavering in the pursuit of jobs and innovation, science and discovery. We can do this. We must do this and we will do this. Mr Biden's plans are expected to meet stiff resistance from the energy industry, including from Kathleen Stammer, who's the president off the Western Energy Alliance. And that represents the interests of oil and gas companies across many US Western state, saying, launching a legal move against part of the president's initiatives when I put it to her earlier that President Biden believes climate change is in the existentially threat, So does she not agree with that. I'm not sure. I totally agree with that. But it is certainly a major issue that we need to address and that's why in the oil and natural gas industry were very proud that we're the number one reason the United States has reduced so many greenhouse gas emissions. The increased use of natural gas and the electricity sector has reduced more greenhouse gas emissions than wind and solar energy combined. And we do that by producing it here in the United States in an environment mentally responsible manner. You're suing the president, those saying that his executive order exceeds presidential authorities Executive order on freezing of oil and gas leases. What kind of revenues Generated by this extraction. Is that why you're challenging what he's done? Well, we return around $4.5 billion to the American taxpayer every year from onshore federal development in the Western states. His order banning leasing would result in a GDP drop of 33 a half billion dollars a year and it would kill 58,000 jobs annually. I'm sorry that's 33 a half billion over his first term. So you know his his plans would result in fewer jobs in the West. He's decided that he wouldn't pay a political price for killing jobs in the West. But you know, we have an important energy resource here in the West, and a lot of it is on public lands where we development. We develop it to protect the environment and return revenue to the American taxpayer. However, he said that his new policy will actually create jobs, he said, you know, in terms of producing power without a carbon pollution in the electric sector, Hey said it's also creating jobs because of economic competitiveness. You don't agree with that. Well, we heard the same thing at the beginning of the Obama administration, and that administration spent billions of dollars in subsidies and really didn't create that many jobs. Where's we in the in the oil and natural gas industry managed to increase jobs we provide about 10.3 million jobs. We support 1.3 trillion in economic activity every year and by shutting down U. S oil and natural gas production. We don't take away the demand for people to drive their cars and heat their homes. All we do is put that energy at risk, and we risk our national security by having having to import it from Russia, Saudi Arabia in other countries. And cheese. Kathleen Scammer, who's president of the West and Western Energy Alliance in the United States, So that's a view from the energy lobby. What about environmentalists? We turn to Kieran sucking of the nonprofit Conservation organization, the Center for Biological Diversity. Began by getting his reaction to Kathleen Scammers comments from a moment ago. I really don't think they make sense. The pause that the president has put in place is on Lee on new oil and gas leases and on Lee on public lands, public lands only produce about a quarter. The oil and gas in the United States, so it's not nationwide on day of the public lands that are already leased. For oil and gas 50% are unused to date on land and 77% are unused to date. In the water. S O. The fact of the matter is the oil and gas industry has plenty of years left of drilling on land and water while we make the transition. To clean energy, which will produce far more jobs. Well, that's an interesting point, isn't it? Because the argument you just heard there was that this is going to hurt the economy. It's going to cost jobs. It's going to cost money to the American Treasury. Yeah, that won't be the case because they have plenty of leases in hands on Lee applies to new leasing. And while that Existing leases get played out. That is the time to transition our economy and start producing millions of jobs and clean energy. Because it turns out clean energy is more labor intensive. And oil and gas, so it's going to produce more jobs per energy unit produced Yeah. Possibly also, though, it'll be less financially lucrative for the U. S. If it is more energy into intensive, maybe there might be more jobs, but America might be poorer. As a consequence, Of course, you might accept think that's a reasonable tradeoff. But is it a reasonable statement of facts where I think that we will export? Less energy than we do today, because much of the energy drills on our lands is export. It's not used here in this country, so the U. S will have plenty of jobs, plenty of energy, it will export less. And that means yeah. Less money for the big corporations, more money for workers. Because there's more of them getting paid hired our jobs. Do you think the measures the president Biden has announced so far go far enough, specifically, perhaps in terms of protecting wildlife and wild places. Well, two things it is today. One is to commit to us to protecting 30% of its land and water by by 2030 that is very ambitious and completely in line with the national effort to protect 50% the planet in 50 years, So he's right on target. There. Now we'll see. Can we actually implement that? But the plans right on target with fossil fuel reduction. It's really not fully where it needs to be dry. For example, this pause he talks about That's a pause to do a study to figure out what we need to do. He's not turning off the spigot here permanently. That's Kieran Suckling from the Center for Biological Diversity, talking about U. S plans. To fight climate change and little later on in the program will hear about a new study into global ice loss of practical and real example off the challenges Climate change is presenting for the whole world. You're listening to news day on the.
"western energy alliance" Discussed on KOA 850 AM
"Found abandoned just north of Watkins, Deputy searched the area and they were able to make contact with the suspect and another woman, and during that time deputy say they were alerted The suspects had a gun shots were fired. The woman was killed. Deputy say they still at this time are trying to talk to witnesses as part of the investigation on Fox 30 one's Jim Hooley for K Away News Radio today. At noon, we get an update on how Colorado's dealing with the Corona virus pandemic Governor Pulis's briefing comes as the state is trying to get more vaccine if we could have Five million doses of vaccine tomorrow we would take it. We have said that to our federal partners. It just isn't available right now. Over 19 incident Commander Scott Bookman says he still believes the steak and meet its goal of vaccinating 70% of people age seven to get up by the end of February. He also says there should be enough vaccine on hand to give second dose is two people who have gotten their first shot. Whatever City Council's telling food delivery companies to continue limiting the fees they charge to Local restaurants Council voted last night to extend the 15% cap on those fees until the middle of June. Fee cap for companies like door dashing Grubhub was put in place in September after business owners complained the fees were hurting restaurants already suffering because of the pandemic. Pushback from the energy industry on a new moratorium on Lisa's for exploration and drilling on public lands. The Western Energy Alliance as president Biden's move threatens the economy of states like Colorado. Lucky on the Colorado front range in that they're very few federal lands but areas on the West Slope it's almost impossible to develop any oil and natural gas in those areas without Hitting some federal minerals underground or some surface alliances. Kathleen Saddam. A study by the University of Wyoming professor projects a loss to Colorado of $586 Million a year over the next five years through a loss of energy leases on federal land. Airlines are issuing travel waivers as a winter storm. It's the eastern half of the country snows expected across the Midwest. Last night, a rare winter tornado hit suburban Birmingham, Alabama..
"western energy alliance" Discussed on KOA 850 AM
"Air travel. President Trump's second impeachment trial is on the after the Senate received a single article charging the former president with inciting US capital protests. With the Senate evenly split between Republicans and Democrats. A deal has been made to keep the filibuster rule. Minority Leader Mitch McConnell is allowing a Senate power sharing deal to advance. Organizing the evenly split Senate with Democrats and control. It comes after McConnell was reassured that the filibuster a stalling tactic for the minority that requires 60 votes to overcome will remain intact. That is a B C's Alex appreciate reporting, There is concern that President Biden's moratorium on oil and gas drilling is going to hurt the Colorado economy. Caylee's Chuck Clark has more on this. Already. A study last month by University of Wyoming professor estimated Colorado would lose about $586 million a year between 2021 2025. Moratorium on drilling and you guys talked to Western Energy Alliance President Kathleen's comma, and she told us we're a bit better off than some states because essentially we have places not on federal land, not so much on the Western slope almost impossible to develop any oil and natural gas in those areas without Hitting some federal minerals underground or some surface. There's also the problem that foreign nations like Saudi Arabia, Russia could easily replace the lost production. It's the age old argument. Oil producers, not filled conservationists. They're good with the 60 Day pause and the president sticking to a campaign promise. Chuck Clark away. NewsRadio Covert 19 incident commander for our State is asking for patience. When it comes to the vaccine. Roll out the problem right now is a big lack of supplying. We're getting allocations each week. You know, in the tens of thousands of range, not the hundreds, and not the millions that you know, we want to get it to. Scott Bookman joined us earlier on Colorado's Morning news and explains why the health Department started a hotline to answer questions about how and where to get your vaccine. We did hear that people were having trouble figuring out how to navigate the system, and so we developed this call center to ensure that people have a phone number that they can call in addition to our website. That they can find out where back to you may be available to them. A call center is open part time right now. But by February 1st, it'll be operational 24 hours a day. That number is 877..
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"News radio. Carry news Radio times 7 25 Now on Colorado's Morning news, President Joe Biden is taking actions on the issues of energy and climate change. You see the order revoking the permit of the Keystone XL pipeline and moved to rejoin the Paris climate agreement and is expected stop oil and gas leases on federal lands. Moves are being met with support from climate activists, but concerned from the energy sector. Well, let's look at the issue now with Western Energy Alliance President Cathleen Scum on our live line. Good morning, Kathleen. Thanks for joining us. Good morning. Thanks for having me on. Well, you knew if once I got elected, this would probably happen. So maybe you've been preparing for it. But how did the moves made by President Biden Impact the oil and gas industry Bottom line. Well, he is promising to them leasing and drilling on federal lands. And since in the West pretty much anywhere, um oil and natural gas is developed. There are some federal lands world get lucky on the Colorados front range in that they're very few federal lands but areas on the West Slope. In Wyoming, New Mexico, It's almost impossible to develop any oil and natural gas in those areas without hitting some federal minerals underground or some surface. So it's just the nature of the ownership in the West. The lot is owned by the federal government. Kathleen. Why is that important for oil and gas industry to get those leases and work on federal lands? Well, I mean, that's just where the oil and natural gas is. And so if you take away that development, you take away $44 billion in economic activity across the West, and you killed 72,000 jobs on average a year by the end of Biden's first term in Colorado, the impact is about 3.3 million. Use me 3.3 billion in economic activity by the end of his term that just is wiped out. $550 million in state tax revenue. And that just means that that unfunded revenue that would have otherwise gone to education and roads and other government services. You'd have somebody, though, like Governor Pulis, saying renewable energy is the wave of the future. Why not start going down that road and put all your resource is there and maybe the jobs will start expanding to renewable energy instead of putting them into maybe what the governor would call old. Old sources of energy. Yeah, That's what we went through a cycle of this at the start of the Obama turn administration the same kind of thing. The reality is any realistic energy project projection out to the year. 2050 shows oil and natural gas will continue to supply about 70% or more of global energy needs. We still need to drive cars. We still make the heat our homes and renewables. Don't do all of that. They provide some power. They need to be backed up by natural guest nuclear coal, So we don't have an alternative that completely replaces everything that oil and natural gas does. Just wiping out production here in Colorado or in America on Lee means that we have to import that energy. From other areas of the country or from overseas, So it's just not realistic. That's not how we get our energy. Kathleen, is it affair? Stigma that you all in some perceive er called dirty energy. Is that fair? I mean, is what your organization what people who do in your realm. Just because it is fossil fuels doesn't mean necessarily that it's Negative for the environment there. Are there ways you do it to where you are very mindful of environment, it still can have at least some semblance of both the energy. We need the independence but also being respectful and mindful of my mother Earth. Well, you know, that's a good question. Obviously, energy produces impacts. Renewables require a lot of mining. We don't see those impact because the impact happened overseas for the most part, but they used Huge amount of minerals that are mind which can one could classify that is dirty. The bottom line is that there's environmental impact any energy source, and the key is to mitigate it and make sure it's a little It's possible and in the United States, and especially in Colorado, we develop under some of the most strict environmental control. And so if we kill energy development here in the United States, then we have to import that from overseas and Russia, Saudi Arabia. They are not producing oil and natural gas and as environmentally protected as a matter as we do here in the United States, you don't and don't forget natural gas is a clean burning fuel. It's the number one reason the United States has reduced more greenhouse gas emissions than any other country because when we replaced And electricity with natural gas here in the United Place. We actually reduce greenhouse gas emissions and so natural gas is reduced more greenhouse gas emissions than wind and solar combined, And that's because we're 24 7. We provide study energy and we do it cleanly. It's a great debate, Kathleen. Thanks.
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"A player tested positive for covert 19. The player reportedly tested positive after the teams were Season road trip to North Dakota future games against Denver in Omaha, likely to be canceled or rescheduled. And finally, if you're looking for closure, R and B singer Trey Songs, is out of jail after he was arrested at Arrowhead Stadium last weekend, The 36 year old punched an officer at Sunday's A F C championship game after fans apparently complained he was not wearing a face mask coming up here on Colorado's morning news is the new administration just down the Keystone XL Pipeline project. What does that mean for jobs? We're gonna check in with Western Energy Alliance now? Ext. That conversation after we check your drive in with John Moore. So what he's seen on the roof. I'm seeing a real slow drive on that North found 2 to 5. Dr Marty. It's a crash up near Mississippi. That's got North found 2 to 5. Jammed of solid well before Parker Road. There's also a crash it Parker in Havana s O. I would use Peoria off the Parker Road. Take that up to Mississippi. You can also use your chambers. Dr. Chambers will run parallel Avellino work for you, Potomac. But that drive on north found 2 to 5 is just awful this morning coming up from Parker because of a crash at Mississippi. The rest your drive Nowhere near that tragic You are slow on south bound to 25 coming down onto I 25 It's construction on that North found ramp. You're downtown driver's busy this morning in the bed, Fred Sports Traffic Center busy drive downtown and all the usual spots downtown. Drive on I 25 pretty heavy right around 20 coming out of your neighborhood. It definitely is gonna be a slick drive this morning Fog in the foothills and down south of Castle Rock, making an icy drive in the foothills Drive on.
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"Next to be released but more than a month after both vaccines started being distributed only sixteen million five hundred and twenty five thousand two hundred eighty one. Americans have received the first votes on the first dose but amazon. Klavan back san. Hang on. wait a minute. We were in contact with the trump administration. Seven fifty seven thirteen ten kfi k. Why bowl sports story in northern colorado state in the country tune into the whole. Show weekdays noon to two and thirteen ten. Kfi k. the day's headlines podcast mornings with gail and more and schedule upcoming sports broadcasts find them thirteen ten kfi dot com seven fifty nine now. Thirteen ten kfi k. A thirteen ten kfi k. a. dot com. Well the biden administration wasting no time temporarily suspending oil and gas leasing and permitting on federal lands and waters essentially Putting the kosh on the keystone excel pipeline. What the influence of those moves speed. Kathleen scammer is president of the western energy alliance and she joins in with some insights at eight. Oh five thirteen ten. Kfi k. a. Greeley loveland longmont closing in on eight o'clock..
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"Will i mean some early on. We're all ready talking about how the new biden administration will dramatically. Change things as we know it. But how will some of his moves even as early moves Particularly when it comes to oil and gas how will it affect us here in colorado particularly in weld county while the future of energy development on public lands in colorado and indeed across the west hangs in the balance because well during the campaign as you're well aware such as it was the basement campaign. Joe biden made it very clear that he supports banning new permits on federally managed land and waters for oil gas and coal concerns about climate change and threats to air and water quality now. Needless to say it's a pretty dramatic change from the at trump administration which prioritized. Us energy dominance rolled back or stream lined rules and policies as a burden on energy development. And you have to remember. The bureau of land management which is part of the interior department manages drilling and mining on public lands. Roughly thirty six percent of colorado is federally. Managed lands and energy development occurs on both private and public lands in colorado colorado. By the way The seventh. i've seen the six but we'll go with this piece out of the denver post. The seventh biggest energy producer in the entire nation. Western leaders network made up of more than four hundred and fifty local and tribal elected. Officials asked the administration in a letter tuesday to freeze new fossil-fuel leasing on public lands but kathleen gama president of the western energy alliance. Hope to talk with her tomorrow morning. Western energy alliance is an industry. Group said the president does not have the authority to forbid new permitting on federal lands. She said her organization will sue if the biden administration tries scum said the impact in the west to livelihoods and to energy production is just too great for us to sit by now. A recent analysis. By the american petroleum institute found a ban would cost colorado eighteen thousand five ad high paying jobs by twenty twenty two and one hundred and eight million dollars in state revenue the to lynn grainger executive director of api is colorado branch ultimately ranger said. The decision on a federal leasing ban is a choice between american made energy and foreign energy a lot of that coming from countries that absolutely despise us and similarly a choice between american jobs and for jobs. Tell you what we'll get. Well county commissioner. Scott james take on this when he joins us this morning at eight. Oh five six fifty. Seven now. Thirteen ten k. f..
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"And that got us into some trouble and so we really had to learn how what it means to go out and be an active part of our communities to have conversations with people in neighborhoods to say. We're going to develop here. Here's what it's going to look like. Here's what it's going to sound like. Here's what it might smell like. You smell anything. Give us a call. Here's the number to call all of those things and then explain why it's important why it's good for our communities and our state and our country. We never did that and when we weren't doing that we created a vacuum that these folks without a state money came in and filled and scared people and told them that you're going to get a buddy knows. Your kids are going to get sick all of those things. We're still battling Gaslan from from twenty ten right and didn't respond well when that came out very flat footed right. So we're we're still figuring all of those things out figuring out a trade association figuring them out as companies but one of the things that I think I've really seen in those five years again. We don't even talk about the social license to operate we understand it and as I said earlier everybody understanding that we have to operate at a very high level. And I think that's what hopefully will begin spreading if not already to other states to understand that if you if you don't have to flare you don't flare That you really address these issues. Now we've got to. I mean the world is changing. It's changing quickly. We have to change with it. We have to learn to talk about climate change. And how we're GONNA talk about climate change and what our industry is doing to reduce those emissions to make sure that those greenhouse gas emission aren't going up into the atmosphere. We have to talk about that. We'RE GONNA lose entire generations of Americans. Does Koga have a a platform or a position on climate change? We do. It's on it's on our website. It's about a page and a it's more of a statement than anything that says that we acknowledge that the climate is changing. We acknowledged that this is something that governments and people should be debating and we feel like for the long foreseeable future. You're going to need oil. You'RE GONNA need natural gas. You've got more than a billion people on the planet that don't have access to electricity that deserve and need to have access to affordable reliable and efficient energy. That's GONNA come from natural gas. We are a part of the solution but we need to be able to be as clean as possible as safe as possible and reduce our emissions. So we're not part of the problem. Where part of the solution and we need we need to be invited into the con-. The greater conversation I think sometimes it appears or seems that will and gas is excluded from the options that are conceived for our future energy supply. And that's just not. It's not a responsible approach. Well and this. This is a good pivot to to what? Bp's recently announced and again. I know you're trade associations I'm not going to ask you specifically comment on one of your members or not members but an industry company but they've come on said twenty-fifty They WanNa be net emission net carbon neutral and as part of that. They released a whitepaper last week where they looked at all the trade associations they were sponsoring and they came up with a non aligned partially aligned fully aligned and what shocked me was aided they wrote a position paper on it and published it shows sort of how ESPN has come to the forefront but but secondarily how many trade associations there are and so we try and think about the consistency of one voice or the lessons we learned in the peons that we can apply. Call two to one Brookefield but then we have New Mexico and then we have arguably California Texas Oklahoma. What kind of formal or informal things can trade associations doing are we gonNA see consolidations to sort of like the voice of energy or or something as we move forward similar Lewis? We're going to see on these large scale. Operators Kinda coming together. What was the response to that as what we need to do? So we can tell you a little bit about the Lou short history in Colorado Kogas been around since eighty four The Colorado Petroleum Association was around even longer than that and way. Back in the day The two organizations signed a memorandum of understanding. Kind of breaking out our duties of what we would focus on years later by the time I got here different leadership. Cpa. We didn't even realize that you had been signed but we were still following it and largely doing the same things. So I think those types of things are important to understand so again knowing that resources are limited and we need to be very mindful of the dollars that we're spending we're not duplicating resources trade associations that we're not stepping on each other's toes that were communicating collaborating and coordinating wherever possible. We do that very well here in Denver About three maybe four or five years ago. Api started to branch here was called Qatar Petroleum Council now called API Colorado. We work with them all the time. We have joint calls different working groups that we do jointly to make sure that we're aligned if possible But sometimes it's okay if you're not aligned In in different companies have different voices. And you can kind of work through those issues. But it's important that you're having those conversations. We owe it to our members especially those who are members of Multiple Trade Association. That we're having this conversation not duplicating our efforts and really working well together to be more efficient on behalf of of this industry. I don't think I could add anything to that. I think that was a very well. Say there's a lot of different interests you know. One of their organization would be the Western Energy Alliance relief concentrating on. Who if I recall correctly if I recall correctly actually cut them Western energy lines? I don't know about that but I think that dance point that different trade associations have different objectives. I think as long as we're all communicating and talking together we can coordinate it in effective ways so if you could wave a magic wand or you know just repeat one of the mandates in terms of the greater good of all of our of the members of Koga May wave your magic wand and implement one regulation that would make our industry better and I know that a lot of people would say anti regulation and we can talk about that but but if if you could wave your one in have one thing we talked about a regulated better but but it would also buy you freedom on the others is there is there one can can you. It's a hard one. I know I'm kind of boxing. On that question. I will use my example and maybe you can feedback so I think that flaring is a very visible issue it is. It is a scar on the landscape at night. Which makes it even more so and it's very easy to point to a lack of planning people. Say Well I don't have access to the midstream pipe and it's full and it won't be built for seven months but I really want my oil so for I fractured and I'll just flare it. Because no economic incentive to to do something with the gas so if I were to wave my magic wand for the industry I would have the industry come forward and regulate out flaring like other than emergency upsets with a twenty four hour time period. Or something I would ban flaring now in exchange I would like the conversation around fracking totally stop because I think the fracking is essential for what we're doing as a country but Dow would be my example of an issue where industries should be regulating itself. And because there's an economic disinterest we have to be the ones to regulate it because no one is incentive to do something about it. That's that's my and I understand that. I think you're asking probably the wrong people in that. Every single aspect of this industry has been under the regulatory microscope. Either in the last ten years or currently as we undergo this entire rulemaking process for Senate bill one eighty one so I feel like so. Many of these issues have been addressed here. Right started with groundwater monitoring we increase setbacks. We increase school setbacks. We did hydraulic fracturing disclosure. We did the first methane rules in the country. We're doing alternative site analysis. We'RE LOOKING AT CUMULATIVE IMPACTS. All of these things are happening. Now we just did another air rulemaking. We're going to do well bore integrity coming up so we have hit every single APP. Every single aspect of this industry has been under the the regulatory microscope in Colorado. That is that is actually a great. And also the scariest point to me of the whole thing. Is that if we have been doing all of the things and responding in every single way and we've just never been able to pivot the narrative that this isn't about wind or gas solar or oil. It's an and conversation and and we've never been able to advance that and conversation but we have to show. Is that for the foreseeable future? You need oil and natural gas. We all know that we need to show to who you're getting. We should all know it and we should know that to make renewables. You need oil and natural gas to to do that. We need to show that these are the cleanest molecules in the world. That you care about the environment you want oil and gas developed here in Colorado you want it developed in the United States where we have standards where we have regulations where we about the environment. If we're going to need this product you want it developed here. This is good for the environment and it's good for our country and I know I get I get passionate about it because it. It drives me crazy that we're having these conversations we've done it we've been through these regulations here in Colorado so of your opposed to this now after all of these regulations you're opposed oil and gas. You want to keep the product in the ground they can. I had the APP. Is I want to ask you this question. What do you think is is safer or more environmentally responsible when choosing between two options option as developing our oil and natural gas responsibly? Cleanly to really. What is a gold standard here in our own backyard employing coloradans protecting our economic security but also national security or turning everything to battery storage and renewables and thinking of the fact that when you were going to produce a one thousand pound you have to mind five hundred thousand pounds of raw material somewhere around this world. Lots of times in countries with Labor conditions. That are not of a high standard and environmental rules and regulations that are not a high standard and then ship that raw material back and forth across the oceans until you finally get to a battery. That's here in Colorado. Which do you think is better for the environment I mean and that's the crazy thing is is it's so obvious and the frustration. And really what I think. The heartache of the day is starting to do is you know you guys are in a position as our industry leaders as heads of public companies. He can't really come out and engage in a big debate. Because I know like on twitter I say one thing and I get eighty people coming out of the Woodwork. And say whatever they want to say. But you're absolutely right. There is not a realization of the the level of importance to our economy and the cleanliness of the molecules that were producing and that people are are blind to the fact that we're offshoring are pollution. I'll even use just the most basic example. Seventy four percent coal fired. Electricity generation in the world is in Asia. Asia is where we have offloaded all of our manufacturing process so that we can have goods for cheaper here because they don't have the same labor cost over there and so Americans are actually creating the c o two that is far worse over in China and yet it's to me. It's so obvious which again pulls me back to the first question that I asked you guys. Which was we've done everything we've communicated everything we've played nice and we've tried to be emotional. Tried to do white papers. We've tried to keep the moral high ground. We've never just shut off oil and gas for twenty four hours and I'm not advocating that you that you do this but I'm just you know to everyone in the industry tarred to mobilize people to come down from wherever that support our industry that's why we have these small rallies whereas the anti rallies seemed to be more fun to go.
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"Environmental review. The most employees are on furlough longer the shutdown goes on the longer all will be unable to go ahead with the work. We wanna do Miami says there's enough uncertainty trying to predict when the price of oil will be right. He says this shutdown is really hard for a small company like hands. We're paying a price for and no business likes being told. You can't operate the oil and gas industry has been doing well in recent years for lots of reasons, including the Trump administration's push to open up vast areas of public land for drilling and to speed up the permitting process, Kathleen scum is with the western energy alliance. A group of oil and gas companies she says if the shutdown goes on much longer it threatens to slow all that down and not just in Wyoming. Colorado, Utah, New Mexico. Same kind of situation. There's also a lot of confusion. The alleged says it is still processing online applications to drill that's prompted criticism that the Trump administration is favoring the energy industry, but it's not clear these applications are being acted on in. Scotland says having only limited staff will slow down processing in the thousand thirteen government shutdown. A federal report found the BLM did not process two hundred applications to start drilling scum expects that to be even higher. This time companies are waiting for leases. If you don't have your full lease hold. It's hard to do the exploratory work or the full development work that you're planning on. And it it just causes your development to slip that could mean a hit for a place like Wyoming where taxes from oil and gas make up a third of state revenue. Culver of the wilderness society says she's more concerned about places where drilling is already happening. She worries about a lack of oversight. If there's a spill or a leak from a well, Pat. The shutdown plan says there are essential employees on the ground for inspection enforcement and emergency response. But I would definitely worry that that is something right now with the shutdown. That'd be alone is not paying any more attention to than it ever does and would probably be paying less attention to amend. It. Does you know workers are not being paid? There's nobody to supervise. And certainly there's not a lot of incentive our ability to get out and about right now. Meanwhile, more oil and gas lease sales are slated for February and March, but some in the industry worried that if the shutdown drags on..