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Ukraine says it is targeting Russians shooting at, or from nuclear plant - Reuters.com
"The velocity of war in Ukraine is increasing Russia's military has pounded residential areas across Ukraine claiming gains as Ukrainian forces press a counter offensive to try to take back an occupied southern region striking the last working bridge over a river in the Russian occupied cursor region Ukrainian authorities say a Russian rocket attack on the city of kramatorsk killed three people and wounded over 12 others on Friday Russian troops and rebels are seeking to seize Ukrainian areas north and west of the city of Donetsk to
The Infamous Lost Suitcases of Lawrence Walsh
"And I was handling the representation of then the former attorney general Edward meese the iron countryman And as I was doing my research and over the transom came information That the independent counsel at that time Lawrence Walsh who was a real hateful in my view diabolical individual since deceased That he violated the espionage act Among other laws Here's a man who took the most secret classified information involving a foreign country As well as grand jury information put it in two suitcases mister producer As he was flying from Washington D.C. to the West Coast to question then president Reagan Checked those two suitcases as luggage And when he landed at LAX guess what The two suitcases never came out They came out on the carousel that goes round and round in your waiting They waited and they waited and nothing happened It was all secret and under the radar The FBI went on a secret mission for two weeks to find those documents You know where they found them mister producer They never did
John McGuire: The Inconsistency of My Opponent
"I am looking at my tea leaves right, and I know where I stand, I'd love for you to be my state senator. I just think the world of you. You are going to be enter primary, but I mentioned Liz Cheney. I mentioned Adam kinzinger, some of these other folks up in D.C. who say, oh, we're really good for Republicans, but man, they're doing all the beating of the Democrats. Now, you've got sort of a similar situation on a local basis, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I think about the term wolf in sheep's clothing. And you've heard of rhinos, there's a guy that I'm running against, he's a supervisor in Louisa county, and there's a letter floating out there from a highly decorated Vietnam veteran who also served in this senator dick black and he's done some research and some other people have done some research and they found out that my opponent ran for Republican in the West Virginia House of delegates in 1982. And then he betrayed the Republican Party at a time when the Democrats were pushing the socialist pro abortion agenda. He left the Republican Party and joined that group and he ran at the Democrat in 82 with Walter Mondale and that crowd and then he ran the Democrat in 84 and then he moved to Virginia into this district where I'm running to be the state Senate and ran against one of the most conservative members of the House delegates Frank hargrove and Hanover county, who's a very beloved member of the House of delegates and against governor Allen who was on the ballot and he basically was on the ballot with Clinton. So he supported the Clinton and never seen the guy I mentioned the word Trump support Trump, anything else. He was supposed to be, but I'll tell you what, he's getting money. And so we've got to figure that out because people don't know this. There are
Christa Helm Was Playing With Fire Before Her Murder
"There was a thing back then, make yourself relevant, go to the right parties, you'll make it. And when she went to these parties, she made people like Warren Beatty. She met Mick Jagger. She met the Shah of Iran. And she made a man named Bernie cornfield. His name you'd never think stands out within Jagger Beatty and the Shah. Iran, but Bernie kleinfeld had at a time in LA. Now Chris the helm slept but he was a guy who was in money to finance here. But Krista slept with some of the men and women she met along the way. Word like that gets around. Her sex life probably would have been irrelevant except for the fact that she kept a not so secret love diary filled with the names of people she screwed, even a rating system. This is never a good idea. Writing shit down on paper may make the wrong guy nervous. So instead of keeping that information private, she would talk about her diary and the secret tape recording she made with many of her friends. And some of her friends warned her, you got to be careful. You know, people don't want to be in these recordings. They don't want to know about this, man. This is very dangerous. One of her friends was really adamant about it and she knew it was dangerous and she thought Christa was playing with fire, especially because people believed the famed seeking actress was getting ready to blackmail some of her lovers. That's desperation. At some point, Christie tells her friend that she'd gotten into something deep and she needed to stay off the radar for a while. This is February 12th, 1977, 5 days before she was killed before her dead body is found outside of her agent's home in West Hollywood. And given the fact that she had multiple stab wounds, authorities believed it was a crime of passion. That the murderer probably knew helm. Didn't make the case any easier though, as several people might have wanted to kill a due to her complicated life.
Who Would Kill Wanna Be Starlet Christa Helm?
"Today's show is gonna be about one of those women, an actress named Christa helm. Who never made it. Thought she would was absolutely positive. She was destined for stardom, but again, like so many people wasn't in the cards. But murder was. Christa helm was killed in February of 1977. Her murder still remains a mystery. And after she died, the love diary and the tapes she was warned not to make and definitely not to keep disappearing. So she was at 1.8 27 year old mother of a little daughter and aspiring actress who, like I said, would do anything or anyone for fame. But she came to an untimely demise when she was brutally stabbed between 20 and 30 times. On February 12th, 1977, in the street in West Hollywood, not too far from where the famous actors Sal minia was stabbed. In the street in an alleyway, and died. What would make someone commit such a senseless act of violence toward a seemingly innocent wannabe starlet.
Robert Byrd Vs. Joe Manchin
"Now, let me ask you senator in terms of Robert bird versus Joe Manchin. If Robert Byrd had passed the bill that just passed, the 87 IRS agents would be taken up offices in West Virginia. Is there anything like that in this bird in this bill? Not that I know of and, you know, listen, we've all been on, I've been on our show crazy Joe for keeping the filibuster into that. Let's now work on a bipartisan infrastructure Bill. And I thought it made sense. I worked on the chips act. It was probably too expensive, but it still makes sense, trying to develop chips that we need for our military and domestic consumption in America, not relying on China and other places. So it's not like I can't work with a guy. Here's what happened. This is the same Joe Manchin who voted with the Democrat and march of 2021. Just imagine every Republican voted no. What does that tell you, Susan Collins? Ted Cruz, Lindsey Graham, all of us saw this bill as being hurtful to the economy and Joe Manchin was wrong in 2021. He's wrong now. And I think he's done a lot of damage to the people in West Virginia. That's at least what the goal will say.
Ukrainian resistance grows in Russian-occupied areas
"In a growing challenge to Russia's grip on occupied areas of southeastern Ukraine guerrilla forces loyal to Kyiv have launched a campaign of resistance As military forces have reclaimed some occupied areas west of the knee pa river the guerrilla activity has increased The campaign includes killing pro Moscow officials blowing up bridges and trains and hoping the Ukrainian military identify key targets This spreading resistance has eroded criminal control of those areas and threatens its plan to hold a spate of referendums as a move towards annexation by Russia and dry a guerrilla coordinator in the southern Persian region tells the AP our goals to make life unbearable for the occupiers and use any means possible to derail their plans I'm Charles De
Why President Trump Shouldn't Care About the Past
"I was interviewed by The Wall Street Journal, you are certainly free to look at it. You can read it or hear it last week. And they asked me, they believe that the election was fair at The Wall Street Journal editorial page. And I am still agnostic. The I don't have proof that the election was stolen, but I have very strong arguments that there was massive fraud. I also believe, as I believe the sun rises in the east and sets in the west. That the left would cheat in any election that they felt they needed to win and which was in which they were able to do so. My colleague and friend Hugh Hewitt wrote a book many years ago. If it isn't close, they can't cheat. He was referring to the left. He Hewitt is considered a moderate Republican. And he wrote that book. In any event the president's preoccupation with the past election, I said on this show, over and over, there is only one thing you have to concentrate on mister president, and that is the Georgia election two runoffs. All we needed is to save this country, was one. To be decided in favor of a Republican. But instead he preoccupied himself with the last election. And kept saying that this would be a fraud. The Georgia elections, to which many of his followers said, well, if it's going to be a fraud, why should I vote?
Pres. Trump Is Confident Manchin, Sinema Will Lose in November
"Coming. Actions have consequences too. Will Joe Manchin pay a price? For betraying his constituents, we'll Kirsten cinema, pay a price. The two Democrats who could have gotten the moon. I mean, they could have gotten whatever they wanted if they would have just held firm and stood up to the antics of Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi, will they? Well, president Trump was at cpac over the weekend in Dallas. And he made a promise what happened to Manchin and sinema, what happened, we're trying to figure out what the hell happened, where did this new philosophy come from? All of a sudden, 48 hours. I think if this deal passes, they will both lose their next election. I do believe that West Virginia and Arizona will not stand for what they did to them. So maybe this speech can stop them because when Manchin hears me say he's going to lose West Virginia and I'll go down and campaign against them as hard as anybody can. Huge roar from the crowd at cpac with Trump promising to campaign as hard as he can against Joe Manchin.
Haaland nets twice on EPL debut as City beats West Ham 2-0
"Erling Holland scored twice in his Premier League debut as Manchester City opened its latest title defense with a two nil win over West Ham Holland put city ahead with a penalty kick in the 35th minute and tallied in the 65th City had difficulty breaking down the hammer's defense before Holland scored after being hauled down by goalkeeper alphonse areola He's the first city player since Sergio Agüero in 2011 to score twice in his EPL debut Areola entered the game following an injury to Lucas fabianski in the 29th minute I'm the fairy
Will Smith, Max Muncy drive Dodgers past Padres again, 8-3
"The Dodgers roll to an E three one over the Padres giving LA 7 straight victories overall and 16 in its last 18 meetings with San Diego Max Muncie crushed a three run Homer as the Dodgers extended their lead in the NL west to 14 and a half games Will Smith homered and had three RBIs to help Los Angeles clinch a 6th consecutive series win over the Padres The Dodgers own the majors best record now at 74 and 33 Andrew heaney lowered his ERA to 0.66 while pitching four and two thirds innings of four hit ball in his 6th start of the season for the Dodgers I'm Dave ferry
David Goldman: China Is the Most Formidable Strategic Competitor
"David, I want to play to you a couple of video clips from the man who sadly bears the title of commander in chief first was from the campaign for election and then the second one is from actually the Oval Office. So this is Biden before he was president. China is going to eat our lunch, come on, man. They can't even figure out how to deal with the fact that they have this great division between the China Sea and the mountains in the east. I mean, in the west, they can't figure out how they're going to deal with the corruption that exists within the system. They're not bad folks, folks. But guess what? They're not competition for us. Not bad folks not a competition, then I guess he was mugged by reality and this is what he had to say a few months later. Our last night, I was, I was on the phone for two straight hours with Xi Jinping. And you all know as well as I do. These folks, and it was a good conversation I know him well. We spent a lot of time together over the years. I was vice president. And but, you know, they're going to get moving, look at these lunch. Not competition, or they're going to eat our lunch. You're the expert you've literally lit a written the book. Which is it? Tell us China is a competitor or somebody who's going to take it all away from us, David. Well, China is the most formidable strategic competitor. The United States has ever had. And it's ascendance to a place of dominance in the world where bankers poor, less secure and generally quite miserable. So I'm against it. The thing to remember is that 40 years ago, excuse me. The average Chinese was making $200 a year in U.S. terms. Now it's closer to $20,000 a year. No other country has brought so many people up the income scale so fast.
AP correspondent Walter Ratliff has the Religion Roundup.
"And this week's religion roundup an AP investigation and covers abuse reporting failures in the Mormon church a Christian flag flies over Boston and Iraq's Yazidi community commemorates a tragic decade on stage Three of 6 children who accused their father of sexual abuse are suing the Mormon church for not going to authorities and letting the abuse go on for 7 years It didn't stop The eldest daughter of Paul Douglas Adams says when she reported abuse on a phone helpline it was kept within the church It didn't go away They just let it keep happening AP investigative reporter Michael resendez says the Arizona case follows a pattern found in other states The Associated Press has received nearly 12,000 pages of sealed records from another child sex abuse case in West Virginia which show that the helpline stands at the center of an elaborate system to divert child sex abuse complaints away from law enforcement And instead send them to attorneys for the church who may cover up that abuse leaving children and victims in harm's way Attorneys for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints say church officials feel they were constrained by confidentiality rules To lay at the feet of these bishops the blame for that is absurd and it's wrong Arizona's child sex reporting law says anyone who reasonably believes a child has been abused or neglected has a legal obligation to report the information The Christian flag that became the focus of a free speech legal battle that went all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court has been raised outside Boston city hall The flag raising took place about three months after the Supreme Court ruled unanimously that the city unjustly discriminated when it refused to fly the banner in 2017 Artists from the Yazidi community of Iraq commemorated their tragedy during a stage performance in Iraq's Kurdish region It has been 8 years since the lives of the Yazidis were torn apart by Islamic State militants The United Nations has called the attacks a genocide I'm Walter ratliff
Tyler Bowyer of Turning Point Action Unpacks Last Night's Elections
"I'm joined by Tyler Boyer. Runs turning point action is a great job. He's also the committee man for the state of Arizona. He were up to like 5 a.m. last night. It was a long night, but it was a fun night. Boy, there's a lot to unpack, but let's start with just the top line news. First, let's go from east to west. Michigan Tudor Dixon won, two open doors. Very exciting candidate. Yeah, tutor, we actually know pretty well. She's actually been a big supporter of turning point for a long time. So we're really excited to form a rap host. Former Rafa's wonderful. And yeah, I think that you saw some of that carryover too. I mean, Michigan is a Trump state. Clearly. Because John Gibbs. This is the other one we want to talk about. We had absolutely on if you looked on paper 20 years ago and you saw a candidate like John Gibbs, you'd be like, the guy has no shot, right? Yep. And today it's a different world where the electorate is paying a lot more attention. And Peter Meyer and his whole gang of like just do whatever you want and don't care about the Republican Party. Those days are over clearly. Well, they are over. He lost. Yeah, and so Peter Meyer and voting for impeachment. Super snake. It's more than that though. I mean, some people are talking about, we'll talk about Meghan McCain's tweet today. We'll get to Arizona. We're going to get to what we'll get there, but the establishment, what they don't understand and what they are really dealing with right now is they haven't worked with the Republican Party for years. They haven't cared about the Republican Party. They haven't cared about the grassroots. And what we're seeing is this whole revival of this real grassroots movement, something that you saw, you know, like in the 70s, really start to cause the Reagan revolution. And I think that's where we're at right now,
Caller: Why Don't We Make Arbor Day an International Holiday?
"I was just wondering, why do we not make arbor day a world holiday? Where everybody across the world goes out and plants a tree, we're so worried about carbon emissions, we understand that trees give off life breathing, oxygen, and they absorb carbon. Worldwide holiday. Whether there's a lot of, there's a lot of things Mike that we could do other than some of the reckless spending on some of these energy plans that are built into this deal that Joe Manchin has decided he's suddenly going to support. Senator Manchin talks about the energy aspect of this. Now, what he should recognize is that these same Democrats that he has caved to will come after the coal industry in his home state of West Virginia.
As fewer kids enroll, big cities face a small schools crisis
"The pandemic has exacerbated a big city shrinking school's crisis A small student body sounds nice but in a big urban building it's more expensive per student during the pandemic many families left big cities or switched to private schools that met in person and analysis by chalkbeat and The Associated Press shows more than one in three Chicago elementary schools had fewer than 300 students last school year in New York it's one in 5 in Boston one and two on Chicago's west side principal romy and Crockett runs trauma school of excellence which lost almost a third of its enrollment during the pandemic When you lose kids you lose resources And when you lose resources that impacts your ability to service kids especially kids who have very high needs Nationally schools with more students of color are more likely to be closed and those in effected communities feel unfairly targeted Officials are facing tough choices Cut school budgets keep shrinking schools open despite the financial strain or close them down when the COVID relief money runs out I'm Jennifer King
Alvarez hits RBI single in 10th to lift Astros over M's 3-2
"Go down Alvarez snuck a ground ball through the left side with a man at third to give the Houston Astros a three to two win over the Seattle Mariners in ten innings The win is Houston's 6th in 7 games against the second place Mariners since the all star break and increases its AL west lead to 12 games Astros manager dusty baker Every time that you beat somebody in your division that's a two game game So that was huge Today is a big difference between ten and 12 And so we just happy that we won that game today Jaco de rizzi struck out a season high 8 batters over 7 shutout innings Adam spelling Houston
Wilson, Plum help Aces deal Fever 13th straight loss, 93-72
"Asia Wilson and Kelsey plum each scored 22 points as the aces hammered the fever 93 72 Wilson was ten of 15 from the field and had 6 rebounds three assists and three steals Wilson had 18 points by halftime helping the aces carry a 54 37 lead into the locker room Plum hit 8 of her 11 shots including three of four from three point range Jackie young added 15.7 boards and 5 assists as the west leading aces moved to 21 and 8 the fever have lost a team record 13 straight games to fall to 5 and 26 I'm Dave ferry
"west " Discussed on Go West, Young Podcast
"A pilot project is called the in drip irrigation pilot program that was implemented on our farm. Land's in that was a success Not only exists success of Conserving water for for recruitment. But also for those other entities and for other tribes in a water users in the state of arizona in in nationwide also. I want to ask about that partnership with with the state of arizona. And how do you view your role as the original stewards of the land is the original stewards of the river. how do you view the tribes role in as you have so many loud voices clamoring or the drought and around the shortages. That others may face a what do you think. Your role is at the table there. Well i think our role is very important. It's very important. Like i like. I said before you know we're we're one of the five tribes on the lower basin and hold the The largest and oldest water rights and so And we and like. I said we would be the last to To be cut on our water up on the river so we we are extremely important. And i'm so thankful for our past leaderships that you know That got us to where we got today and that even at the state level and the those leaders may have not thought we were important as a player. But there were those that have the had the insight that said. Yeah you know we need them. We need Chris should be of this Dc pete program. I want to ask about the ways that you're working with. The biden administration the the new leadership at the interior department. You're i know. We mentioned the irrigation project working with with. But just how does that. How does that relationship work. And have you noticed a change yet with with deb holland is the first indigenous interior secretary versus versus. How things were under under the trump administration. Well for one thing. I know we have applied for grants and serving our our our water..
"west " Discussed on Go West, Young Podcast
"If the drought we're seeing this year is the new normal and continues into next year. Right right yeah. Twenty around twenty percent of arizona's waters goes to the municipal sector and obviously the overwhelming amount goes to agriculture. Now of course. We need food to eat and fiber to grow and all of that and so agriculture is essential to our economy but recognizing that it is a large water user. I think given our situation I think we're gonna need and continue to see innovative deals. Innovative thinking about how agriculture can be a partner in all of this because at the end of the day. We are all in this together and just like in the whole colorado river basin if one state is not doing well then it could affect everyone and so i think we're going to have to think creatively about how do we make deals to encourage sharing You know temporary fallowing. What kinds of things can we do to work with the agriculture industry to be adaptive those really bad years. I think a lot of folks don't necessarily think of arizona big agricultural producer. What kind of stuff is grown in arizona. And how could that change if the amount of water available to agriculture uses cletus. Yeah yeah i'll speak for the central part of the state. I in in pinellas county in central part of arizona. We grow a lot of south of believe it or not. And i know i'll often gets a bad rap because it does use a lot of water however it is a very productive crop and it feeds the local dairy cows that then is supplied to the local large metropolitan areas. And so two dairy. An alfalfa's going to completely go away is probably not realistic. Because they're such a large population of people that need that milk and dairy products on the colorado river itself in arizona. We see a lot of vegetable production like in yuma and it's highly efficient nationalized a vegetable operations and so we very diverse agriculture near zona..
"west " Discussed on Go West, Young Podcast
"And where once it might have been something that you would say. Well you know. Republicans are are just You know dismissive. Even sometimes hostile to those ideas it's really move significantly. We now the majority of republicans that say this is a serious problem in their state. And and that's a big change over the last decade And you know in in other research that we do. We see. We see that as well not just in the west but throughout the country where it's really shifted in terms of opinions and it's something that especially younger republicans. Moderate republicans really want on the action on. So i think it's something that they need to pause and think about and take a fresh look at Given the very real shifts. We've seen over time dave same question to you. The by didn't administration calls you up and says okay. What do i need to know from this. Giant forty question battery What are the two or three biggest takeaways. You'd want the administration to to really hear here. Yeah well i i would. Echo what lori said about climate change I think in particular for a democratic administration Issues related to climate are not just a rising concern a big concern for democrats but they are one of the things that they are. Most concerned about period We lot of polling around the democratic presidential primary last year that it was literally change was the issue about which democratic voters were most concerned But as laura detailed this is not just a democratic issue anymore something that the center of the electorate also feels strongly about or even seeing Substantial concern from from republicans. I think the main thing that i would recommend from this data is not having to do with one specific policy or issue. But it's just the need to go big and obviously the president is getting this advice on a wide range of different policy fronts right now but despite the pandemic what we're seeing in these numbers is voters are not only not backing away from support for conservation but their support is broader and more intense than it has been in prior years and Even when prompted to think about some of the budget concerns that our current economic context creates. They're still saying that they wanna see more. Invested in conservation The administration's getting a lot of criticism fairly or not these days You know as they consider using reconciliation to pass the covid relief. Bill that this is inconsistent with the president's promised during his campaign to to govern from a position of unity. And you know as we discussed earlier. This set of issues around conservation are ones that unite westerners more than they divide and so the biden administration is looking for a place where it can really have some bipartisan success and it appealed to the full political spectrum of voters investing in conservation is absolutely a place where they can do that. Go big i guess is the takeaway. Then dave mets is upholster with fm. Three laurie weigel pollster of newbridge strategy. Thank you both so much You can find the full results of the conservation in the west pole at state of the rockies dot com..
"west " Discussed on Go West, Young Podcast
"Can many. I'd be hard pressed. I mean really water issues there. One of the things that that tends to get overwhelming bipartisan agreements and even some land conservation issues You know can consider as we see. What thirty thirty can match that. Kind of a bipartisan here. But really it's it's it's a rare and few. We see where voters across. The aisle will agree. Davidson's like you agree. This outlier yeah hundred percent. It's a it's a rare area of consensus that time when our politics is marked more by division than unity. And i think what really makes this issue distinct is that voters may come to it from different places may be different values and desires their motive. Motivating them but they end up sharing support for these policies. four democrats as we've seen their highly concerned about climate change Larger numbers of of democrats will tell us that they wanna see nature preserve for its own sake for its own inherent value but among republicans. We also have large numbers of sportsmen and sportswomen people who recreate outdoors frequently And want to see land preserved for those recreational values and so there may be different factors that drive their support for conservation but it does result in this remarkable and rare sort of bipartisan agreement. That this is that Worth significant effort an investment from government. Right now so. I know we didn't. You didn't drill into Exactly how you get to thirty by thirty but they did ask about. Should we have more national parks. National monuments those sorts of things. What did you end up finding their very strong support for creating new national parks national monuments. National wildlife refuges and those type of protected areas Especially given the context we pfizer on protecting historic sites or areas for outdoor recreation We had eighty four percent overall in the west and Basically two thirds or greater in every single state and support was fairly intense as well. We had a a solid majority of fifty five percent saying that they strongly support that i think some of that is linked to the fact that we had a majority as well that said You know we survive twenty twenty and once we get through a difficult winter in the pandemic under control. They really want to go out and visit national public land's more often Than they have in the past and you know very few only four percents that they prefer to visit less less often so really people are wanting to get out there and to enjoy these places and so that may be part of the rationale for why they are so badly and support of creating new places truck create. Was there also an awareness of of overcrowding issues.
"west " Discussed on Go West, Young Podcast
"And democrats saying that. They're worried about the future of nature in addition because this was the eleventh survey that we've conducted we've now been doing this for over a decade We can draw some comparisons between what voters are saying now and what they've said in prior years and on almost all issues relating to the health and condition of nature in the west voters are expressing more concern today than they were ten years on. In fact in most cases the increases in concerns have been by double digits and even doubled in some cases. I thought it was very interesting to see how opinions about climate change especially have changed over time. Loria what have we seen here. Over the last decade we basically seem respondents telling us that this is a bigger concern than we've ever seen before even from last year we saw increased in that concern level so the very first year that we conducted the survey actually asked about global warming. We ask twenty seven twenty seven percent so that that was an extremely or very serious problem. That has double today in the same state so that we can compare apples to apples fair. It's up at fifty four percents So a doubling that intense concern about climate change and it's really gone up across the board gone up the most among republicans and independent voters in the west. Still going up by double digits among democrats. Who started at much higher levels of concern But that's a big shift and those who are most concerned. Today are those voters underage thirty five the youngest group that we look at Sixty one percent tell said an extremely or very serious problem in fact. Eighty four percent of those youngest voters. Tell us it's at least somewhat serious problems in their state. Can you tell from these numbers. How much of it is that demographic shift or how much of it is changing awareness of the threat. Well should. I think that we've seen a range of different issues popping up in terms of concern. I mean voters in the west have long been concerned about things like a low level of Water and rivers and inadequate water supplies. But now we're seeing really big concern as well about wildfires. It wasn't something that we had the foresight to to ask about In our very first year. But we've been tracking it for the last five years and we now have and ten voters telling us that wildfires uncontrollable wildfires threaten homes and property or at least a serious problem in their state with three and five telling us it's extremely or very serious problem. Surely highest in in states like colorado montana. But it's more than three quarters every single state and many of those voters that are telling us it's more of a problem now than they even thought. Then they saw ten years ago are telling us that that's attributable to changes in the climate in fact that was the most likely cause a for those who said it was more of a problem today than ten years ago along with drought but really focusing in on changes in the climate it also struck me that The loss of habitat is something. Voters seem to be much more aware of now than they were even a decade ago. So we've seen we've seen really rising concern about a range of different issues. I mean every conservation related problem that we asked about a decade ago is mel higher today and so loss of habitat again went up like vice. Seventeen points i remembering that correctly That's something that. Interestingly has gone up even in the in the last year. Just given i think some of the concern about the influx of people coming to this region Over the course of the pandemic and Building and development taking place in in a range of different types of communities not just in major cities but but really throughout the region. David was interesting..
"west " Discussed on Go West, Young Podcast
"You right behind toasting marshmallows. In the summer leaf peeping the aspens in the fall. It is time for the annual conservation in the west pole from colorado college in all seriousness. High-quality public opinion polling is very hard to come by even more so when it comes to outdoors and conservation issues so this poll which is now in its eleventh year gives us incredible insight into what westerners are thinking. And how those thoughts have changed over the last decade. We're going to talk to pollsters behind it in just a minute but first let's do the news. It took mere moments for the oil and gas industry to start running around like chicken. Little as soon as president biden announced a pause on oil and gas leasing across the west kathleen sagana. the head of the western energy alliance. Trade group went on fox news to warn that. Even pausing new leases. We'll do this. And so this order yesterday would kill fifty eight thousand seven hundred jobs in eight states in the west where over ninety seven percent of the federal production is found. yeah it was a similarly dire story from the ceo of the american petroleum institute. Mike summers he went on the call with reporters to say that there are hundreds of thousands of jobs and billions of dollars in government revenue at risk. Api is even spending more than a million bucks on tv. Ads that suggests school buses will vanish into thin air. Just because of a pause on oil leasing really does sound terrible. Doesn't it and there is just one problem with those dire predictions and that's if you ask oil and gas executives. They will happily admit they are doing just fine. The ceo of conaco phillips was on an earnings call. Now keep in mind this earnings call. It's regulated by the sec. You don't get to lie to investors and he said on this call quote. Conaco phillips has the flexibility that i've versity and the depth of low cost of supply and low greenhouse gas resource to manage through this issue without materially impacting. Our plans there is no equivocation there. No material impact. That is as definitive as it gets. It's a similar story. At two of the other biggest producers on public lands in the west both yoji resources and different energy have confirmed. They have at least four years worth of drilling permits on national public land. The chief operating officer of yogi told investor conference quote when it comes to access to federal lands. That's one of the things. Were really not worried about in our business. So if oil companies aren't actually threatened by this temporary pause and leasing. Why do they want the american people to think. The.
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"The only thing lad is You know just really quickly the there isn't necessarily a deadline on the record of decision they just can't make the decision within the thirty days. From the time the finally I s was released. So just wanted to make that quick clarification link Thank you. I was equally shocked to see Don Juniors tweet but. At, the same time very appreciative because this just proves that Bristol Bay is really valuable to the entire nation Similar mark said, this is only sides of the political divide agreeing on something which. Barack Obama pause delay a national treasure when he visited it. Excuse me during his second term in the presidency, and now don Jr. agreeing that this place deserves. To Be protected, you know something that our people have known all along. But if you look at the history of this issue, this has been a bipartisan issue for quite some time. Every single time this goes to Alaskan boulders the. Vote in favor of protecting. Bristol Bay. Her own numbers show that sixty two percent of Alaskans don't support this project which in terms of Development Alaska to have those kind of numbers almost unheard of especially sustain over this period of time. senator. Murkowski. Passed a congressional directive on with a budget amendment last year you know that stated that the Army Corps needed to do a better job which, of course, the ignored when we saw the final is but this this just proves that no matter what side of the political divider on. There's one thing we can agree on and that that is at Bristol Bay deserves to be protected from threats like the pebble mine and it shouldn't be stopped. I would be remiss if I didn't mention the cavalcade of celebrities who show up in mark's film mark. Harmon Tom Coleco. Tom. Douglas. Who is a household name in Seattle food circles at the very least Adrian. GRONYEA. Those are wonderful voices and obviously all very effective advocates. But Alana, I, want to I want your take on how do we make sure that those voices that get folks attention are also balanced with indigenous voices that are most threatened by this how do we make sure that indigenous voices also get elevated in this conversation? That's an excellent question and I think mark did an amazing job in this film making sure that indigenous voices are being amplified and being empowered in these circles you know I think movements like this you look at the base of it, and this is really about human rights. Ross are right to clean water. All right chart alters right to continue to be native people. And when we have such amazing allies were willing to stand with us That's Really I think the goal is to be standing with indigenous people in fights like this with the people of that land and I think you know mark has done an amazing job because he has he's been here. He has met us and he really values our voice in this fight and make sure that we are included even things like today to make sure that the indigenous people are being heard. So mark you just had a virtual screening of the wild earlier this week obviously in person screenings or not happening this summer..
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"Let's go ahead and start with with Theresa on that one because we haven't had anyone from the continental divide trail coalition on the show before you're the first. A yeah, you know the kind of chocolate humor that lead partner with the cotton Forster's Park Service to manage in Stewart in protect the connell divide shell, which for those of you know as a trail that is three thousand one hundred miles long runs her Mexico. Canada lines of the Rocky Mountain West and it. It actually is a congressionally designated resource it protects. kind of a big deal. North American watershed, so it's where the Atlantic and Pacific watersheds begins so when we talk about on the trail, we're not just a physical thing that you can hiker biker. Ride a horse on. We're talking about this landscape. A one point nine eight million acres, that is the watt are shed of the North American continent and when we talk about that. We're talking about water climate change clean, air. Access to Public Orlando are federally managed and ensuring that people understand that they live. Talking about the history of those landscapes that have a longer history than when Congress designated them as a national sneak travel, talking about indigenous cultures and communities, their stories, and their experiences needed to be need to be added to the history, and the land is we talk about them and understand them respect and honor them. A lot of our work is obviously in the traditional angsty bank. Volunteers out doing trail work, but it's awesome engaging with local communities on both physical communities like Saliva Colorado, but also communities of color that have a long attachment and connection to these landscapes often are recognized in our current. They were in so how we can leverage this landscape as a way to broaden the understanding of how we relate to these landscapes in their long history, and they're. They're hopefully long future is critical for our work it really is about creating connections to call her community and landscapes themselves, and then we can also talk about how many of these things whether it's climate, change or impact of fire or the impact of oil and gas. Leasing, general access to are are these these these natural places is critical to our health and I think when they all mentioned his in these days of Kobe is what I'm calling it. One thing. We've recognized more than ever before. HOW IMPORTANT HAVING!.
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"Dc with the trump administration or whatever administration. It might be nuts in the White House and we're forgetting about all of this incredible Advocacy and growth. That is now happening on the state level and in cities where the president decided to remove himself or move our country from the Paris climate accord. There were all kinds of governors and mayors In both you know red and blue places. Who said wait a minute? This doesn't make sense. We've got to do something you see. Foundation Juicy Business and Industry folks you see young people And frontline communities all coming together to make change happen and all that comes from this set of advocacy this stat of education and learning. You know from fifty years ago with Earth Day and the Environmental Justice Movement and a number of other movement. So I'm even though we're in so very challenging times. I am a hopeful and optimistic that we are right at the precipice of change And I think we're gonNA see some amazing things out a silver lining if you will of creating a new generation of awareness and activism when it comes to to to environmental justice and obviously climate change in particular being the most urgent issue. It seems right now from your eyes what does progress on climate change. Look like both this year as you look at the end of the trump administration's first term and then looking into the future to the end of the decade or even two hundred fifty. How how do you get there on addressing climate change in these this political uncertainty and with the state? Sure well I think. In relationship to year it is a matter of educating folks on the power of their vote. You know we. Are you know just not that? Far Away from when everybody the opportunity to engage in our civic process So we need to make sure that people understand you know that their vote can actually translate into change it can translate into getting people Who you don't have to convince about you. Know the immediacy of the climate emergency It also helps folks understand that we can create a whole new set of economic opportunities in that space. I think that we also in this moment Continue to support young leaders And all the incredible energy and innovation that they have going on And letting them know how valued they are along with our frontline communities providing this or in that space and keeping the You know communication open with brothers and sisters across the planet which is so import Because unfortunately you know. Our current administration is kind of a closed. The doors zoo significant conversations with others all of that moving into November Getting the right sort of results there and then very very rapidly Getting in place a number of steps that are going to be critical as the IDC report. National Assessment report is share with us. You know we'll be in that nine year timeframe there so we'll have have to do a whole bunch of things very quickly To be able to address some very very Significant challenges that we're going to be faced. I'd imagine that if we're not in this era of social distancing right now we would be seeing rallies and protests around the world for the Fiftieth Birthday. Obviously that's not going to happen next week from your perspective as someone with very deep connections in organizing and communities and promoting change How has all of that changed in this new virtual world that we're in right now and I do think some of these changes are are gonNA stick in the way people organize even not being able to see each other face to face? I think it is you know again. It's an exciting time challenges. Bring out the best. Hopefully an in most votes and there were huge huge you know million plus people rallies that were planned and now folks have taken that online There are literally you all across our country and across the planet. A number of virtual events that are plant is exciting. I can't wait until Earth Day because there are so many artists and entertainers Who are going to be apart of helping to bring people together to motivate folks to get people you know connected You know in a number of different ways Young leaders and others. You know we've got the Earth Day network and others who just got all of these different opportunities to learn and engage. People are getting registered to vote online. Where we're where you can It's amazing saying how quickly people were able to sort a schist or pivot And get these pieces in place and I that you will see that. This is also building bridges between Jew bureaucracies organizations who may be had traditionally been as connected And you're going see you know these new online flat arms As ways you know just bring the country and bring others a more closely together in a time. We can't physically touch each other. We are touching each August Platforms in real. Change is not come out of that. That brings me to my last question. Which is your your work with the hip hop caucus. What is it about? Music and hip hop in particular makes it such a a critical or useful platform for speaking truth to power while you know many of these artists and entertainers you know they come. From what folks are talking about. You know it's not a theoretical sort of set of conversations or creations And music you know. Music has always been a big part of my life. But you know it is a connector. It is a bridge builder And you know hip hop is the number one musical genre. The world So you know all the various forms that are out there whether it's country music or Bluegrass or hip hop or raft Or classical Or you know some of the other forms that folks down you know. It's an opportunity To actually connect you know we have way too many walls that people bill between each other between communities between racists And it's an opportunity to break those down And instead of having walls you know to have so you know. I was so blessed to be at the Office for two years and very thankful for that experience because I got a chance to see and hear artist. You know who really got it. You know we work with the taboo from the black. Iv's and he and the magnificent seven to stand up for standing rock which won an MTV music awards for which really put a spotlight on what was going on there and standing rock but also you know y water quality is so important and how there's a cultural aspect to it and a number of others. You know Andy Smith. You know redoing the Beatles Song and just Gene everyone with under comes really pointing folks forward and looking at the positive audibility is really just a reach away so You know music. The Arts is a big part of this new paradigm of how we make change happen. There are times right now when all of us feel despair bleak somewhat alone because of all of this Who Do you put on? Who Do you listen to when you need to feel inspired? Wow there's so many folks on this direct a chance to rapper. I love chance the rapper because he uses his activism in in a very you know powerful way of you know getting resources to folks getting people engaged comment. I love comment He he just made everything he's the best he's the Best Cardi B. I love parts in the political process. And you know reaching a whole different set of folks in many others would be able to There's a laundry list of folks that I listened to and of course I would be remiss if I didn't give a shoutout to Chuck D People. Tease me all the time. 'cause public enemy was one of the first groups ivory started the follow back in the day. And to the you know so this particular moment you know chuck and arrest them are still killing it. Still Educating people and still letting people know that you know you have to fight out except for Flavor. Flav but will leave what they're all right. Mustafa Santiago Mustafa Santiago Ali. It has been a pleasure. Thank you so much for taking the time today. Thank you thank you. Y'All say less than and remember the we can help folks move from surviving to thriving and that's it for another episode of Go West Young podcast. I've got to say as bleak as these times. Are I really needed? A shot of optimism like that. Thanks so much again stuff. Santiago Ali as well as Patrick Dueling from the Western Slope Conservation Center. I do appreciate all of.
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"Again. Thank you and we're going to give the last word to Senator Tom Udall of New Mexico. Who is clearly thinking about his legacy and his family's legacy as he prepares to leave. The Senate wants. His term is up next January. The senators closing keynote at the conservation in the West. Symposium was both a warning and an invitation to the crowd and above all else. It was deeply personal. Take a listen. I am so glad to be out west because for me the West is home. As she mentioned my family homesteaded in the West almost one hundred eighty years ago we have roots in Utah Arizona. My Home State of New Mexico in here in Colorado Westerners have a special connection to the land are thousands of acres of gorgeous untamed beauty. Sixty mile vistas snow covered rugged mountains Alpine lakes and mountain streams and abundant wildlife. The Great Western writer Wallace stagner called the the west the geography of hope. And it sure is for me. The Wild beauty of the West will always inspire me and it inspires my public service and it probably is one of the biggest reasons I am in public service. As some of you know the Udall family has been working for a long time to protect the beauty and grander of the West. The she ran through quickly. So I'll just do it again but I was GonNa make all the connections but Uncle Mall. We call him uncle Mo he was the chair of the House Interior Committee. My cousin. Mark Your senator here and your House member for eighteen years Cousin Brad you may have not heard as much about him but a great water expert and climbing expert that is out of Colorado State University and lives up in Boulder and my father Stewart Udall. Worked in the cabinet a two presidents as Interior Secretary. So just last month we marked. What would have been my father's one hundredth birthday? That was on January thirty first twenty twenty and I've been reflecting on my dad's legacy it's become clear to me just how much we can and must learn from his vision. During my father's first year as secretary of Interior the head of the Bureau of Reclamation flew him over southern Utah to show him a site of the next big dam in. My Dad looked out of that airplane window and at the red rocks buyers below and he didn't see a damn. He saw the next national park and he went back to Washington and helped Create Canyon Lands National Park in one thousand nine hundred sixty three fifty seven years later. My Dad warned the nation about what he dubbed the quiet crisis in a book he wrote and President Kennedy wrote a forward in that book. He saw the creeping destruction of nature and wrote that. And these really writing this to all of us. You the younger folks that are here. You're the next generation. This is his quote. It's a pretty special quote. About what how you relate to the land and I'm quoting here. Each generation has its own rendezvous with the lamb for despite all our fee titles and claims of ownership. We are all briefed tenants on this planet by choice or by default we will carve out a land legacy for our heirs in quote along with scientist like his friend Rachel Carson. My Dad called on the nation to act with urgency. And and then the strangest thing happened. The Nation actually acted and in one thousand nine hundred sixty policymakers enacted many of our nation's bedrock conservation laws and preserved millions of acres of wild places. It's hard to imagine in this day. A bitter partisanship over environmental issues. But in the one thousand nine hundred sixties in the nineteen seventies congress passed these ground breaking laws on a strong bipartisan basis. And they did it. During the era of big dams and economic development at any cost. That was kind of the attitude them when conservation and economic when conservation and environmental protection were afterthoughts best. Now I didn't come here to talk to you about how great my dad was. He wouldn't have wanted that. He's a very modest guy. He would've wanted me and he wanted all of us to get to work on the problems at hand and we now have got our work cut out for us. The first challenge is what I call the nature crisis. Wildlife has never been in greater danger here and across the nation and the world we are losing species and habitat at unprecedented rates in human history since one thousand nine hundred seventy in North America. We've lost three billion birds in the US. A recent study found that we lose a football fields worth of habitat every thirty seconds a comprehensive. Un Biodiversity Study found that one million species risk extinction a sixth mass extinction upon us and less we act to preserve space for nature and the West why life is at risk the iconic plains Bison survived the ice age but it may not survive the age of humans plains. Bison what's number? Just think of this thirty to sixty million bison in the planes across North America now. The number is twenty thousand so thirty to sixty minute twenty thousand in its native. American tribes that are nurturing. The Bison Back. The once ubiquitous ubiquitous monarch butterfly found in eight Western. The poll states that we talked about earlier is in jeopardy populations of other pollinators like bees are crashing. Human existence depends on bio at least forty percent of the world's economy is based on biological resources. Biodiversity gives us food shelter Madison Economic Development Life itself as my father said in. This is a quote here from one of his books back. Many many years plans to protect air and water wilderness and wildlife are not in fact. Plans are in fact plans to protect man and today he was very conscious of women and he would have said he would have changed. Man The human beings protecting human beings and the nature crisis is inextricably linked to the climate crisis. Climate Change destroys habitat and can conditions necessary for healthy ecosystems and the fragmentation of habitat makes it harder for wildlife to adapt to a changing climate the destruction of forests and natural lands both creates greenhouse gases and reduces the potential for absorption of carbon dioxide. I don't have to explain what climate change is doing to the West water scarcity out of control wildfire pollution from fossil fuel production yet. The president who is down the road from US tonight isn't listening. He rolled back almost every effort. We have to fight climate change and save nature. He's withdrawn from the Paris Agreement. He's eliminated the clean power plan. He's trying to subsidize on economic coal fired plants. His administration has significantly weakened the endangered species act by rule. They've been viscerally. Clean Water Act protections. They're taking a hatchet to some of the most precious public lands with an unprecedented rollback of grand staircase and bears ears national monuments. The list is seemingly never ending. It's no exaggeration just fact that the trump administration has the worst environmental record in history. But I'm not here to make you depressed. I kind of felt there was an era of depression. Setting over all of you with all that. So we've gotten to the depress point. We're moving up. Okay just listen to this part. We're moving up so I I'm here to get you fired up okay. One of the most valuable lessons my father taught me was to learn from because everything we do every step we take is building on those who came before us in my father's time Lake Erie and the Cuyahoga River was on fire. The Bald Eagle was going extinct cities were clogged with smog. Factories dumped toxins into rivers without any limits and economic growth and the so-called progress. Where almost all people cared about. The leaders of the Environmental Movement fifty years ago met the challenges of their time and we must meet the challenges of our times because the quiet crisis my father wrote about in the sixties is not quiet no more the crisis of nature and the crisis of climate change have risen to a crescendo and the public is ready for action. We must ride a new playbook to save our planet and our way of life. Here's the good news. I'm here to tell you we can do it. The West is changed a mentally. Since my dad's era our economies have grown and diversified. Our cities have skylines. We have become much more diverse. The West has evolved and we've moved forward and so has public opinion especially on environmental issues. The people are demanding action. And that's why I'm confident. We can meet the challenges before us just like my father's generation. Two thirds of Westerners think climate change is a serious problem. That's up eleven percent in ten. Three-quarters want their members of Congress and governors to have a plan to reduce carbon pollution including a majority of Republicans seventy seven percent consider habitat loss for fish and wildlife to be a serious problem and seventy six percent support protecting wildlife quarters on public lands. So you've got Democrats and Republicans and independents sharing these views by big majorities. Despite what you see coming of Washington. There is an opportunity for fashioning consensus based solutions. It's beyond clear that the administration's rollback of all things environmental is wildly unpopular in the west. And here's the irony. The president's attacks or energizing the environmental movement in this country like we have not seen in a very long time. You Ask somebody like Colin who was on this panel here with the National Wildlife Federation. How's your membership drive doing? It's off the chart. You ask all the other groups that are concerned with all these issues. We're talking about membership. Is growing. People are energized. We need to harness that energy to ride a bold new conservation vision for the future vision. That doesn't just undo the trump administration's attacks but goes even bigger because if we only reverse the trump record it would be like putting a band aid on a life threatening wound senator. Tom Udall with a look back at his family's legacy and look forward to his own A. Let's wrap up with a look back at this week in Western history and I love this one because it all happened on our public lands are story starts in September of Nineteen eighty-seven when paleontologists at the Cleveland. Lloyd Dinosaur Quarry in Utah Under a nearly complete dinosaur egg. He was just over four inches long and two inches wide. It was broken. Open half with what appeared to be a dinosaur embryo still inside the following February. Which is to say this week in nineteen eighty eight? The scientists revealed their discovery to the world noting that it was the oldest dinosaur embryo ever found at the time because the egg was found around a lot of allosaurus bones. They said it likely came from an allosaurus. That's a big theropod. Predator looked a lot like a t rex but as the paleontologists continued to study the egg with cat. Scans and x-rays a different story emerged. The structure of that egg didn't match any of the known dinosaurs in the Cleveland. Lloyd quarry and the embryo wasn't developed enough to give any substantial clues so in other words it was almost certainly not an allosaurus but they were certain that the egg wasn't moved there. It appeared that the mother may have died before she could lay it and the egg remained inside the dead dinosaur. That could possibly explain why it was so well preserved. It's believed by the way that entire Corey there was a Predator trap. Think along the lines of the La Brea Tar pits in Los Angeles. This by the way is all from an article in Science magazine. That came out a year later. I looked for any follow up since then. I couldn't find any so it appears we still don't know what species of egg it was but that was not the end of the story for the Cleveland. Lloyd Dinosaur Quarry Back in one thousand nine hundred eighty seven and eighty eight. It was a national natural landmark. It housed the first ever visitor center run by the Bureau of Land Management. That had opened back in sixty eight and over the decades more than fifteen thousand bones have been excavated from the quarry and last year thanks to the John Dingell Conservation Management and Recreation Act the Quarry. Got A new name. It became Jurassic.
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"Montana Governor Steve Bullock laying out. What's at stake later on? In the day there was a great panel discussion with four conservation leaders on the future of conservation efforts in the West and even more so than in years past the threat that climate change poses kept coming up again and again. Here's Amara the. Ceo of National Wildlife Federation talking about how climate change has become an urgent and shared political issue in the West. I mean I think I think the roadmap for climate is very similar to the roadmap for public lands right. Make it hyper local. You make it things exactly as was said you know the abstract kind polar bears and Buffon's obviously did not get the job done as the messaging. But you're talking about fires in your backyard. Talking about Trout Stream. That's warming screwing up the spawning rates talking with the droughts Things that affect the backyard dinner table all of a sudden becomes real and I think you know all of a sudden it becomes a shared value. I think we're GONNA see the same evolution on climate that we did the public lands. Where you frankly can't win if you're on the wrong side of this issue over time and we're seeing it already in Colorado. We're seeing already in New Mexico little little bit in a few of the other states. But you know I don't WanNa get too far on the politics but the only way to really lose as a Republican right now. Some of these deep red states is on the wrong side of public lands. We can do the same thing with climate right vic. Values basement by local investment local solutions. Again not overly federal top down kind of working with community solutions and making sure. Natural solutions are big part of the conversation. Making sure that we're really trying to lift up industries and you'll build the outdoor economy but that's the pathway and really. The last few years have shown this right. I mean Montana. Governor Bullock should not have won his race right president trump card this date by almost twenty points. He ends up winning by four same thing in the same thing in the Senate race John last time. Right weed beets Rosendahl. Obviously that race should not have been won by a Democrat trump. Was there four times but again on public lands and all this kind of public lands and kind of being the frame but public lands in particular being on the wrong side of the issue is just say death-knell and we're GONNA see that. Play out again this time in a couple of Senate seats and we're also seeing that folks are trying to quickly become more on the right side of public lands to try to salvage. Senate seats right now. So how that plays out. I think it's GonNa be really important. We're GONNA see the same thing on climate. I mean it's just spend a Lotta time in DC. It's so great to be. You're not in the swamp for a day but the the denier kind of rhetoric is fading very quickly all of a sudden now it's about innovation research or hey we need to know more but it's not the denial and we saw years ago. That's because the impacts display of folks have been fed kind of through the meat through very specific media and kind of talk radio and the like And even on Fox. What they're seeing is fundamentally different and all of a sudden if we can connect our values to what they're seeing with reasonable solutions of some that becomes a value and that's how the politics shift overnight. We also heard from. Len neces- for who you may recall from our live episode in Tucson last summer. Len is an assistant professor at the University of Arizona's American Indian studies program as well as the Udall Center for public policy. There as if that's not enough. He is the CEO of outdoor Apparel Company natives outdoors. He is also literally a rocket scientist. Having worked at an ESA research center on supersonic vehicles. So with all the things Sleng could talk about. He focused on tribal sovereignty and respect and the progress that has been made and then rolled back over the last few years In the Obama Administration there was some strides made towards meaningful consultation of federal agencies and actions. That happen On Public Lands Unfortunately it was incomplete You know one of the things that I like to say. That could improve. This is is uniformity across agencies Making sure that these processes of how tribes talk and consulted in the in the process of this federal decision making this consistent also accountability. That's accountability for federal agencies. That's been one of the pitfalls of the processes that in many cases in this administration if tribes sent an email about a particular decision that's considered consultation and the last is also ensuring that tribes voices have a meaningful influence on the decisions that are made right now in my backyard in Tucson. The border wall is a great example of that The act that basically allowed for this. The construction of the New Wall. waved a lot of Environmental and cultural Laws and considerations in in its development in order to speed it's process one of them is the native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act and Just a few days ago there was a the basically a controlled explosion of an area that was a native American grave right along. The border and the tribe wasn't consulted on this You know this is one of the many ways in which this plays out. And at least for the Autumn Tribe. It's very real in terms of impacting their heritage in connection to the landscape our executive director here at the Center for Western priorities. General Kla was also on that panel. She highlighted the way public. Land's can help rural economies but also the importance of not focusing that impact on just a handful of ultra popular places and then putting those lands at risk from overuse governor bullock. Touched on this when he talked about The offices of outdoor recreation and I think a of States Colorado Utah Montana Oregon. I don't have the list in front of me. But a number of states have created these outdoor offices of recreation to help bring the out directly Konami to communities throughout the West but also make sure that the impact is Not Hurting our public lands but enhancing our public lands so growing the economy in these communities and spreading it out so that businesses are relocating to communities That might be you know losing You know the traditional energy economy and creating a an out directly Konomi that is a clean economy so I think the outdoor offices outdoor REC offices have been had a had a great impact. And we're seeing more states Add those to their governor's offices and finally my tape. Rc CEO of Hispanic Access Foundation. She highlighted the impact that the land and Water Conservation Fund in particular has had on diverse communities across the country. I think the biggest success in the last ten years one that I really care about In all mention a couple is that Communities a more diverse communities are really engaging in the conservation movement and really starting to lead their campaigns and and work that's important to them in communities in the way that We need Those communities to lead I think one of the quiet But very important policies and programs out there is the land in Water Conservation Fund. And there's been such a such a challenge to have reauthorized every time that it comes around and then also funded and the permanent reauthorization of the land and Water Conservation Fund was really critical because it provides it has provided resources to our parks and waterways for in all fifty states and and in so many communities including mind growing up in southern California Really helps provide resources for trails and for for Campaigned A camping areas and and other recreational areas but is also provides more safe and and areas for kids and families to recreate. That has been a hard policy and program to really A make sure that all of US support because it's not been branded very well. It's not a well known a program but yet it touches all of our lives and it's been in the last year when it was reauthorized permanently And we don't have to have that challenge in the future. It's really exciting now. We just have to really focus on getting it funded. Let's bring in the pollsters who did the heavy lifting here. Laurie Weigel with newbridge strategy and Dave mets with FM three. Laurie Republican pollster. Dave is democratic pollster and that is one of the reasons why the Colorado College conservation in the West Pole is the gold standard when it comes to public opinion on outdoor issues. Laurien Dave. Welcome back to the PODCAST. So let's get the basics out of the way here. This is a big poll. You've got thirty. Two hundred people polled across Arizona. Colorado Idaho Montana Nevada New Mexico Utah and Wyoming which is to say four hundred voters in each state the polls conducted in English and Spanish. And all of the regionwide numbers that we're going to be talking about here. You've waited them to reflect the population of each state. Did I get the basics down here? I want to start by asking both of you to pick out what you think the biggest takeaway was from the sears poll and Loria let you go first. I thank you So I think one of the one of the real benefits of the survey has been that we've been able to ask people about various issues over the last ten years. So the the tent survey that we've conducted and while we haven't tracked every single question the same you know. We made a concerted effort this year to kind of go back in the archives. Look at some of the things we asked the very first year in two thousand eleven and assess how people are responding and so one of the biggest areas of change which obviously penn state is just where climate changes and attitude on climate change. It went really not being top of mind. It all when we asked people in two thousand eleven but just tell us the most important environmental problems or issues today to being tied is number one so from five percent in two thousand eleven volunteering that issue basically a third of voters throughout the West just immediately thinking of climate change as as a big environmental issue and every single question that we asked about climate change that we attract from two thousand eleven we thought Increasingly people are concerned and say the serious issue And that they want action to be taken on it. So that was that was a real big change From from essentially a decade ago. That's a a remarkable shift in a short amount of time. Dave and the other changes that you've noticed over the years here that stuck this year. Well one of the big ones that stood out to me was the importance of the environment as an issue that people are focusing on when they're making decisions about how to vote Obviously this is an election year and so Issues relating to land and Water and wildlife or not just important in their own right but in terms of who we're going to elect to handle these issues over the course of the next few years And in this year's poll we saw a dramatic increase in the importance of these issues to voters relative to what we've seen in past election cycles Eighty percent of voters told us that Issues relating to clean air. Clean Air while I'm sorry. Modern Clean Air. Wildlife in public lands are important issues for them and deciding whether to vote for an elected official including forty four percent who said it was either a primary factor or very important issue to them. That's almost half of the western electric and those numbers are up dramatically from where they were in two thousand sixteen just four years ago heading into the last presidential election equivalent. Figure was only thirty one percent. So that's a thirteen point jump in the intensity of attention that people are paying to conservation issues in just for years And I think that speaks to a degree of Sort of interested people have had as as at least federal level. We've taken a radically different direction. in terms of protections for Land Water Wildlife With the new administration. That's been in place since twenty six and that was a fairly remarkable number that stuck out to me asking voters about overall priorities. How WE SHOULD USE PUBLIC LANDS PROTECTING CLEAN? Water and air versus maximizing the use of public lands for responsible oil and gas drilling..
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"We are heading down interstate twenty five to Colorado College where the state of the rockies project just released its annual conservation in the West. Now we've done episodes on the pole in the past because it is a very big deal in the conservation world but this year was also the tenth anniversary of the poll so the State of the rockies folks went big putting on a symposium with some of the biggest names in the conservation world many of whom you have heard here on this podcast before folks like Senator Tom. Udall lend neces- for who was on our live. Episode from Tucson last year Might Arce of the Hispanic Access Foundation and Colin Amara of the National Wildlife Federation. All of them. You will hear from in this episode. It was amazing having these folks all there in one place sharing a bunch of different perspectives on the past present and future of conservation in the West. So today we're going to listen to highlights from that symposium cramming eight hours of content into the next hour or so starting with the opening keynote from the governor of Montana Steve Bullock who couldn't resist poking fun at Colorado along the way now when I had an opportunity to actually brag about Montana in Colorado. It was an offer that I had to take up. But all kidding aside from my perspective Colorado's unrivalled outdoor experiences making it one of the most spectacular places in the nation a close second perhaps Montana but also it really is incredible. Honor to get to be here with you to celebrate your public lands and all of the values that we share together here in the West unlike no other place in the country I think folks out West really do have a special appreciation for public lands. We know that our public lands our heritage their birthright. That are great equalizer. Me Doesn't matter the size your checkbook or who. Your parents were where you're from. Our public lands and access to them are forever. You don't have to be that millionaire from Aspen. Sun Valley Jackson hole or even Big Sky Montana to hike on these lands to Camp with your family and your favorite park are public lands truly belong to all of us and we're blessed to have so many national treasures surrounding us in the West but we also know that every American has equal ownership an equal stake in these public lands. Certainly well the lands equally belong to all of us. The economy's they generate belong to us the fight to protect and preserve our public lands. It's not just as an historic one. It truly is an economic one. There the obvious impacts of tourists and a thriving outdoor recreation industry last year. We had nearly thirteen million Americans visit Montana. And the coming for a Walmart's right. They're coming to enjoy and explore our wild place. Our states outdoor recreation economy delivers over seven point. One billion dollars in annual consumer spending employs over seventy one thousand people in our state to major economic force for state in Colorado here. That's twenty eight billion in consumer spending two hundred twenty nine thousand direct jobs and it's more than just the direct jobs and that spending people want to live and work and raise a family in Montana in large measure because of our public lands and I can sure bet at the same all the way through out a rocky mountain west. But what makes us even more special. I think out west and it's not just a economics. Our lands are part of that traditional family values. We PASS ON FROM GENERATION TO GENERATION. Just like our grandparents and parents did for us. Our children and our children's children will grow up actually watching and seeing the stars and getting outdoors. A bet that each of you gathered here today certainly have incredible memories or unforgettable stories from adventures. You've had on public lands. The first date I went on with my former high school classmate a decade later who then became my wife. Lisa was on a picnic on the South Hills. Helen I just minutes away from where we live now today. The first summit my three kids bagged was called Mount Ascension which you wouldn't quite look at it as a big mountain but it it was part of the open spaces. Preserved by land trusts also right on the edge of town in Helena Fortune to take my thirteen year old son Cameron hunting on public lands nearly every year often successful in harvesting a buck. My oldest is seventeen and just last night at dinner. She was telling one of the guests about a trip. We took two summers ago into the Bob Marshall Wilderness area and she talked about. I was five days on that south fork of the flathead river. Been able to see the stars and you know what I didn't miss snapchat wants. This is actually working now whether it's fallen in love on a picnic well on a trail hike or your kids first. Summit climb or an unforgettable hunt. Those are the memories that shape and define us as westerners and indeed as Americans. Those who came before us had that foresight to maintain our history our outdoor legacy the memories that defines they knew then what we know now setting lands aside for the public's benefit it's one of the great of American ideas and it's an idea that can and must survive the generations Theodore Roosevelt said in one thousand nine ten of all the questions which can come before this nation short of the actual preservation of its existence in a great war. There's none which compares in importance with the great central task of leaving this land and even better land for our descendants than it is for us. Now it's up to us. It's up to us to pay it forward to make sure that future generations. Have that opportunity to wander to contemplate to create those lifelong memories on our price public. Land's the make no mistake. Our public lands are under attack and along with it or clean air clean water wildlife and the very values that define us out here in the West. There are those who are actively working to erode our parks and forests undermine access their individuals in corporate interests. The WanNa try to transfer or sell our public lands there continues to be troubling signs coming out of Washington. Dc just a couple of weeks ago. The trump administration finalized plans to open up to of Utah's national monuments for drilling and mining. This is the largest elimination of protected public lands in. Us history acting in defiance of over one hundred years of history or sixteen presidents designating one hundred fifty seven national monuments dating all the way back to nineteen thousand six when Theodore Roosevelt. I use the antiquities. Act Protect Devils Tower in Wyoming. An attack on public lands. Anywhere is an attack on public lands everywhere and it flies in the face of who we are. As a nation..
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"Environmental concern. Which I think a lot of people may not think of it that way when you talk about about urban planning but it is it's a conservation issue issue absolutely? It's one of the top ways that we can decrease emissions and we we haven't yet talked about one of concentration Colorado's other other big areas of focus. Which is environmental justice? And it's something that on this podcast we touch on particularly as it overlaps with tribal issues. We generally don't talk about that in terms of Urban issues and environmental justice within cities in Denver in particular There are some huge disparities. Thirties you go from neighborhood to neighborhood in terms of health risks. That's absolutely right. And we've seen a number of toxic polluters syrup and down the front range and onto the western slope that are putting these compounds into surrounding neighborhoods. I mean they're they're putting things out like hydrogen cyanide hydrogen. Sulfide these are serious. Toxics that Harm kids they harmed the elderly and we need to do something about in terms of legislative action in terms of policy action action. Is there more that needs to be done. In terms of monitoring is it just cracking down on what we know already What does that look like? I think it's all of the above. And so it's monitoring monitoring at the fence line because so many of these areas are surrounded by neighborhoods. It is looking at caps looking at what is safe for people not not just in the surrounding neighborhood but workers as well and it's looking at what a fine structure is. I mean some of these places. It's a slap on the wrist. It's the cost of doing business and we need to move beyond that. If we're really going to protect Colorado's so that there is an actual you're right now. The the fine finds that these companies face are not necessarily enough of a deterrent relative to the cost of actually cleaning up what they do. That's right Colorado Colorado. Clearly right now is leading as David Roberts with vox mentioned leading across the West across the country. So what can Dan other states learn from what Colorado is doing. What can conservation groups in other states learn from following the conservation Colorado Model? It's about looking economy-wide that is one of the most critical things that Colorado has done. So far is set these targets. Set Them economy-wide armywide once that's on the books to start looking sector-by-sector at how you do reduce pollution and so I think that two step process says something that's critical and something that's ongoing last question. Since you mentioned year checking off state parks with your son. What's your favorite so far? What what what? What do folks need to get out there and and discover your? That's you saved the hardest question. Always we have really enjoyed the Arkansas headwaters area. Because it does stretch for so far great view of the Valley there and Chafee County Aw and takes you just all the way down to two Fremont County area and let you look around all right. Gary Garner Wells is the communications director at that Conservation Colorado Garrett thanks for stopping by. Thanks for having me We always like to wrap up with a look back at this week in Western history. I will warn you upfront. This one gets dark but it's fascinating. It was this week in nineteen seventy seven that the state of Utah executed a man named Gary Gilmore Gilmore a murderer who became a national celebrity. And even a Saturday night live punchline on the way to his death and then inspired a world famous advertising slogan the Punk rock hit and a bunch of folks Pulitzer prizes in Emmy awards as I said dark. Gary Gilmore lead a life of crime Iran car theft ring at age fourteen. By the time he was twenty four he received a fifteen year prison sentence but he got sent to a halfway house after eight years and then he was convicted of armed robbery. He was so violent behind bars he then got sent the maximum security federal prison in Marion Illinois when he was paroled from that at age thirty five in nineteen seventy six he went to Provo Utah to live with a distant cousin that July about three months after his release Gary Gilmore robbed and murdered a gas station attendant in Orem Utah. The next night he robbed and murdered a motel manager in Provo. Both of his victims were students students at Byu who left behind widows and infant children Gilmore managed to shoot himself in the hand while he was trying to get rid of the gun he used in the murders. His his cousin then turned him in. He was tried for just one of the murders the motel killing because there was a witness who saw him in the registration office that night. The trial lasted just two days and the jury unanimously recommended the death penalty now up until this point nothing would suggest a national story was in the works folks but the death penalty had just been reinstated by the Supreme Court in one thousand nine hundred seventy two. The court had ordered states to commute all death sentences to life in prison and in states started passing new death penalty statutes that were upheld ruling in one thousand nine hundred seventy six so that same year when Gary Gilmore killed old two people there had been no executions in the US for nearly a decade the previous one had been in Colorado in nineteen sixty seven. After Gary Gilmore was sentenced. He didn't appeal the death sentence and he fired his lawyers. Utah's law let Gilmore choose his method of execution either hanging Or firing squad. He picked the firing squad saying he wanted to quote die. Like a man. Gilmore's mother tried to get a stay of execution on his behalf. The Supreme Court refused to hear her claim and it was around that point. That Gilmore's case became a national story. People wrote into the warden volunteering on tearing to join the firing squad all three TV. Networks asked for permission to film The execution and amidst all this that December of nineteen seventy six Saturday night live ran macab skit in which candace Bergen introduced choir that included Gilda radner. Dan Aykroyd and John Belushi singing singing a holiday medley titled. Let's kill Gary Gilmore for Christmas..
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"The biker you know the camper the fishermen but I think one of the things we also have to do is bring the industries that support them as well into New Mexico and is that say the manufacturing or the the outdoor recreation the industry at large not just the recreation part correct manufacturers concessionaires yeah Paul. Let me ask you a someone earlier mentioned that so many of these places in New Mexico put them anywhere else in the country and they're instantly a national park because they are so spectacular from your perspective as an archaeologist if you could wave a magic wand and ensure some places both studied and protected where are the next places in New Mexico that need that national park status because they are as spectacular as a Mesa Verde or or or we're Choco while that's that's a pretty broad question. I usually try to keep the lectures tonight hours. That works for everybody. Well you know we may have to follow up on on that. I think there's some areas you know. The National Monument is a place that I've worked as an archaeologist now for almost fifteen years and that is a phenomenal landscape for any of you who have not been out there or those who have. I think that's ads waiting. We've talked about the idea of Greater Choco in some way but I think the checkerboard status with state lands tribal trust lands tribal allotted lands makes that super complicated around chock. Oh so I probably that's kind of the opposite love. You'd actually asked me you know I I could get your last part of the thing too. Though is you know before. These lands are protected. We Really WanNa talk about them. Publicly so that's kind of a useful dodge <hes> just for me but there there are a number of areas and I agree with the sentiment that in other states these areas probably already would be protected. I've been in New Mexico since nineteen eighty-four and I feel like New Mexico's biggest benefit from my perspective is that there's not a lot of people here but that's sort of the there's two sides of that coin so we don't have a lot of people you can go places within thirty minutes of Santa Fe five minutes from my house and never see a person all day up around towels so that's a benefit. The opposite side of the coin is we don't have a lot of capital in some places in our state and so we it's a mixed blessing is what I would say but I think there's great potential to protect moorlands across our states and and I think as political change perhaps is in the win next year I. I don't know who knows we might see some things change before we move onto the fun stuff. Let me ask all three of you. What am I not asking? What what am I missing in terms of what's important with New Mexico and the Energy and conservation and outdoor future here? Can we talk a little bit about wildlife corridors lease. Let's talk about wildlife corridors some more yeah so just you know the the really important notion that connectivity could potentially mean life and death for individual animals but also extinction for certain species and even as we look to things like construction of a border wall there are the very real human impacts economic impacts but there are also impacts on wildlife and to the extent that we can do our development expansion of our populations in in concert with our wildlife populations. I really think that prioritizing that will benefit fit the ecosystem itself just like you talk about watersheds that that reach over different land status and different landforms. You talk about ecosystems. I I think protection of wildlife populations also has a broader impact on the health of of the land that we're trying to protect so help us define protection is that is that wildlife wildlife bridges over highways is at status changes. Is it land acquisition. What what forms does that take that actually protects those corridors? I think it's all of the things you mentioned but most importantly it's coordination of efforts so department Hartman of transportation is going to be key in developing wildlife corridors in New Mexico but we also have to work with obviously our our neighboring states. We have to work within state agencies within a land status land-management status. Status Agencies to ensure that we have coordination of efforts because wildlife doesn't does not know borders they do not know land status maps and coordination of efforts. I I think is is a key all right. I want to wrap up the interview part of this with my favorite question when I talked to folks who are obviously V. local experts on their own state which is when you get forty eight or seventy two hours off the grid in New Mexico. Where is your secret spot? Where is the favourite place that you go that you don't share with anyone except for.
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"Those those larger goals <hes> and to establishing <hes> understanding between the decision makers and Congress the Federal Agent State Agents and state leaders and we need to continue we will continue to <hes> ensure that that level of consultation and that level of commitment on the part of these agencies <hes> is is realized moving forward on these issues these these types of issues governor Brian Vile of Academic Pueblo here in New Mexico? Thank you so much for taking the time out of your busy schedule to talk to us today and for your perspective and congratulations on the Choco protection bill taking a big step forward today thank you we'll we'll let you go and we will start looping in the crowd that we've got here who unfortunately we're not able to hear you so we'll let you go. Thank you again governor for for joining us today. Thank you very much all right so I want to start then with Paul read from archaeology southwest since obviously Choco is also incredibly important from an archaeological perspective. Why is this an area from archaeological sense worthy of protection and what what are the risks of drilling there right well Taco itself of course is a national park with nearly four thousand sites tacos been protected as a park since one thousand nine hundred eighty well we're concerned about is literally one hundred feet outside the boundary of Choco and what we have of course is this explosion to choose words carefully and the oil and gas drilling almost right up to Jacko's macos boundary once companies figured out how to get into the Mac Os shale formation at about a mile down they've been able to do that and we've had something like two thousand wells go in in a relatively few number of years so as we get outside the TACO boundary we've been concerned for six or seven years now and going further back but really active in that time trying to help them through this process primarily of modifying their long range plan and saying you know maybe we don't have to open up all these lands for drilling? Let's set some aside. Let's figure out what lands should perhaps be permanently set aside and protected even though they're not part of Taco in the park. What other special areas can we put in place for protection and the other thing? We've really ramped up and I'm thrilled that we had governor bio for a few minutes is we've develop partnerships now with almost ten tribes including the Navajo nation and a number of Pablo nations in our goal. There is to get those tribal voices to the table. This is something that and Blah all the federal agencies talk about constantly but the follow up on their part can sometimes be short so I think it's fair to say that ACA probably is the most active group at this point. That's one reason why we partnered with Alabama last fall to get academic tribal members out on the landscape and identifying areas of concern at this point. We have a report on that. That's going to be in the governor's hands here on a scale of days and once it's been approved through the governor and they decide what can be released to the public. We'll have some very concrete results to share with the rest of the world and I think we'll see that a lot of the resources that archaeologists can identify have already been protected but a broad range of resources that tribal members see on the landscape including. Clearly natural features that we would never think about or not really being protected so that's a big part of what we're trying to do. At this stage so commissioner Garcia Richard. Let's talk oil and gas drilling. Obviously oil and gas development is booming in in New Mexico and that is a huge part of the state's economy right now you were elected in November two thousand eighteen with the promise of of obviously not undoing that or hampering the business of oil and gas drilling but it also protecting the state so how do you balance the impacts both environmentally and economically. Thank you for that question so I just want to before I begin my remarks remind everyone that as I like to do often that we are on aboriginal land here where we are standing in Santa Fe and so this topic is is very apropos to to talk about right now. The the State Land Office issued an executive order that took seventy two thousand acres in the Choco area off the table for future oil and gas drilling and guess what folks the bottom did not go out of the market we are still able to bring in record revenue from oil and gas development into the state so despite what naysayers may say about essential protections that we must have on our a cultural and sacred sites it can be done in a balanced sustainable way and you know it's funny. I don't know if you all here know this but governor vile not not only had he been the lieutenant governor for Acapella he actually was the cultural resources officer for the Pueblo as well so he really has a great knowledge expertise and background in terms of not only the western archaeological perspective live on protecting the Choco the Greater Choco area but also the native perspective because sometimes what is sort of invisible to the western archaeological I will be Y- contributed from our native brothers and sisters in their communities and their backgrounds and their expertise and so it's essential that we have both schools of thought coming to the table to really inform our decisions around protection of our cultural and and sacred sites. I want to bring in Todd Lady who is the deputy cabinet secretary at the energy mineral and Natural Resources Department. Obviously you're area has your department has a lot of responsibilities possibilities in this area in terms of responsible drilling we analyze data center for Western priorities looked at data from the oil conservation division last year in New Mexico oil and gas operators reported fifteen fifteen hundred spills more than more than four per day what steps does can your department take to make sure that drilling when it happens is happening in a safe way that is not endangering the environment consistently so that's that's an excellent question and I I have to sort of escape the answer by saying it depends so so our our jurisdiction is oiling gas drilling in the state but but not on federal land not on state land right so so we have a unique role here in that we can we can set rules but say in the Chaco area aware that's all federal land except for the state land that is up there. There isn't a whole lot that we can do in in that specific area through throughout the state. We have new initiatives that are coming online now to ensure just what governor via talked about and that is responsible drilling we can't we know we can't shut off oil and gas development. It's two essential to the economy but we can ensure responsible development commissioner. Let's take a step set-back you you had previously served as a state legislator. You've now been in this job for nearly a year or well half a year I guess so what are your priorities for the state land office and and I think it's important to acknowledge that you come in in many ways with a diametrically opposite view of public lands as your predecessor so how has that first six months been in what are your priorities so far I really appreciate that question and I always look forward to the opportunity to talk about our plans at the state land office so essentially they have everything to do with the future of not only the economy in New Mexico but the climate a globally as well. I mean I really think that right now we are at a crucial pivotal moment where policy decisions that we can make you know at at some of our state agencies at the governor's honors level and then at the state land office really will impact and has an opportunity to impact climate challenges moving forward and so one of my number one priorities that state land office is is to ensure that we are getting every single penny that is due new Mexicans from our natural resources and right now oil and gas developers pay less to develop New Mexico oil oil and gas than they do in Texas the Great Progressive State of Texas right next door actually requires oil and gas developers to pay more for those very precious resources that once they leave the ground are gone and so we have an advocacy and a attempt that we're calling raise the rate we tried it in the last legislative session but essentially we would like oil and gas developers to pay the same rate on our minerals as Texas XS pays and that is a quarter so twenty five percent and currently the rate. Is it more in line with federal rate. It's actually it's capped at twenty percent so the federal rate is twelve and a half and New Mexico's capped at twenty in statute so that's a legislative <hes> that has the legislative fix I would appreciate any any and everyone's help with it because as we move forward and really diversify our economy in New Mexico we know that oil the gas will not last forever. Whatever whatever your view of that industry is that is a finite resource so we should be getting every penny that we're due for the resource ball we have it while at the same time looking to diversify in forms of renewable energy revenue in forms of <hes> Eco Tourism and outdoor recreation revenue and really looking at alternate ways to fund state government Paul Read? This is not necessarily an archaeological question but I understand you lived in Farmington is and raised families. They're a family there. What was that like seeing the the boom and bust cycles that especially impact a town like Farmington that he's Pretty Independent on that that single economic sector right yeah I was in Farmington for twenty six years and I'm I've been in towels now for five so I like to change I mean it was very informative for me to live in Farmington and and to kind of see firsthand what that boom and bust cycle was like and I think it was hard on a lot of families when it went to Farmington in eighty eight the population was probably just under forty thousand it grew over the next ten years to more than fifty cap there and I think they've fallen back a bit now and it'll probably boom again because unfortunately our state in that community in particular is still locked into the oil and gas boom and bust cycle so I think as Commissioner Garcia Richard Said we can improve the way we manage our economy Farmington? The one thing I did see in Farmington over those twenty six years was lots of talk. During those bust cycles about what can we do you know Farmington is a natural gateway to Colorado to the Navajo nation to the badlands lots of beautiful natural places to do things and so the community leaders would get together and they'd say you know we should really we should really think about this differently understand now with some support from outside groups there again having a very serious conversation about how to do that in Farmington and I think it's at least twenty years too late but you know there's hope that they can eventually direct the economy up there in a different direction you know the other thing of course is not that we're talking about cold today but there's coal in the power plant situation now that is driven ribbon the four corners economy since nineteen fifty nine or nineteen sixty so there's definitely some transition needs to happen there as well just to piggyback on that a little bit Paul I would. I would agree with you that not only are we too late but this very well may be the last boom we see in extractive industry the last true boom we see just because of where predictions are in terms of these oil reserves in terms of the price of alternate. Alternate forms of energy are plummeting. It just does not make economic sense anymore to develop these resources from the ground when when solar and wind are becoming more and more cost effective all the time <hes> we're really talking about the last throes I believe of extraction todd your your agency covers more than just oil and gas but also hard rock mining coal mining renewable energy and conservation from your perspective perspective. How do you see New Mexico's energy future laying out over over twenty thirty years?.
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"Right. I mean eastern Colorado is ripe for tourism in what it's different kind of experience, then your thirteen foot thirteen thousand foot peak or fourteen thousand foot peak. So their opportunities for rivers trails road, cycling birdwatching. You know, those are places that. Yeah. Are ripe for an investment, basically. And then western Colorado, you know, we still have these rural communities that have been focused on coil coal or oil and gas and they're looking in their backyards, and they've got these wild and scenic rivers in Mafa county. We have a trail system that is. Not on anybody's radar but it's world class. You know, same with the western end of Sammy Geller Montrose county. We have coal plants and power plants and coal mines being shut down in communities that are kind of wondering, what are they going to do for the tax base? They lost you know eighty percent of their tax bases gone now. But then they're looking around and saying, we've got all of this fantastic rock and slick rock and canyon country. We're no different than the fruita. So we have this natural capital that we should be leveraging. Those are the places where it's going to happen. Coming back to the economic impact of outdoor recreation. The most recent data from the outdoor industry association shows the outdoor industry as a whole contributes eight hundred eighty seven billion dollars to the economy every year. It.
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"Detour there. We hear a lot about overcrowding in some park, Zion Yellowstone Yosemite. Did you did you run into that? And do you think that is a genuine problem that, that some of our parks are facing right now? Yeah, I mean, sort of one of the, the side benefits of doing ally. Speaking churches was that on my Sundays, I was often fundraising on Saturdays. I was driving there. So I really grew to appreciate visiting the parks on Monday through Friday, when it was a lot less crowded, but even on those days like I was at Yellowstone in July. And I had planned a number of days there halfway through I said, I can't take this anymore. Like it's just so crowded is your spend so much time to sing in your car trying to get places waiting for parking at sort of ruins the experience and I had been Yellowstone many years ago during may, and that was so much better. Just because the traffic is so nuts that it really. Detriment to the experience. So I think one of the things we're struggling with now is, we have a park service in a park foundation that is promoting visiting these sites rightly, so but we aren't keeping pace with infrastructure that it takes to manage this increase number visitors and especially in the popular parks, the ones that are very well known very well marketed, it really shows. So the maintenance backlog that we've, we've heard about we've talked about a bit on, on this podcast from what you've seen it's real and and urgently in, in some places. Well, yeah. I mean one thing I have to say is that the park service, doesn't incredibly good job of working with what they have as general visitor. There were a lot of things that I didn't notice or they did a good job of hiding or or masking as far as maintenance issues go because, in general, the majority of my experiences parks, I never had to say, like, oh, gosh, I wish I could do this, but it's broken. They don't have the money to fix it. So I give them a lot of credit for, for making do with what they have. But yeah, that being said there are places that really need work done to make them capable of handling the amount of visitors that get. I assume over the course of these three years, you spoke to dozens or hundreds of Park, Rangers and park service, employees. Do you think there's a message that you have learned from them that if given the opportunity you would pass along to the top leadership at the park service, or at the interior department in DC? For the department of the interior in the park service. I would just remind them. How fortunate they are to have a staff that is so passionate about the mission that they are serving. I recently got to speaking engagement with employees of the park service, who mentioned that during a recent survey of all the government departments. The park service had the highest score as far as a staff leaving in the mission of their department and that was very evident anecdotally in my personal experiences. These are people who often work service jobs during the off season, just so they can keep having seasonal jobs, because they haven't been able to become full-time. They are people who are highly highly educated, who were jobs that people might say are beneath their education, but they just love their job. They love their sites so much. So I would remind the, the department heads how lucky they are to have a staff at his so committed to the goal. Of their department and to those higher up those in congress, I would ask that they go to our park service sites because when most frustrating things is to go to historic sites in see the United States make a mistake. Four hundred years ago, make it somewhere else three hundred years ago. Another place, two hundred another place. A hundred still today in realize we haven't really learned from our history that were preserving so I sort of wish I could make congress go to a lot of these places in hopefully it would impact the way they legislate. At a great takeaway. You mentioned dinosaur national monument as, as a big surprise any other sites, you visited that you think needed promotions. The end deserve national park status. Well as far as needing promotion. I really can't speak highly enough about the Dakotas people laugh. When I talk about how much I enjoyed them even I talked about how much I like Theodore Roosevelt, national park so much that the superintendent emailed me at one point and said, I just can't believe how much you enjoyed it and how much you keep talking about it. Because North Dakota is so unvisited that their tourism board has been called the save the best for last club. Where if it's your last state visited, they give you a pain in t shirt certificate so many people just put it off. And yet, both badlands national park in theater Roosevelt, national park where some of the most spectacular experiences head in the park service of the most unique places. I saw that it's such a shame that people see that Kotas may think it's only boring prairie. That's definitely one recommendation, give those are Kaplan capital parks, however, some of my other favorite sites. Don't have that. Nation would include white sands, national monument, absolutely incredible place. Wonderful experiences, there Buckeye reef national monument in Saint Croix. Never lens was spectacular spurious, and there's some funny sites, kind of like I went to organ pipe cactus national monument. And thought it was way, better than Suara national park. And I think about all the people that go to Celaya out because it's one of the big sixty one and overlook, Oregon pike cactus because it's a national monument. And think man, are they missing out? So there definitely were number of sites like that, where I think, may be politics was different policies were different sites that have certain status would have national park status to better reflect the experience have there. You mentioned getting E mail from the, the superintendent at at teddy Roosevelt, any other favorite people, you met along the way, I mean, you must run into all sorts of characters hitting four hundred nineteen national park sites. Yeah. Well there too that. I think one of them was a ranger cat. My national park, and he reached out when I was planning my Lasca portion and he's opening gay as well. And he said, he'd, I really appreciate the visibility you're helping bring to us, especially those less than work here. I know cat is really hard and expensive. So if you need a place to stay like you can you can stay at my place in the park, and so that was really cool, just to get to know him really well for few days in this really fascinating ark. And then a few months after I was there. He got reassigned to Hawaii volcanoes and moves at the end of December, just as the shutdown happened. And so now knowing him on a personal level. I got to see the real life impact of the. Shutdown had because he had a new apartment was the deposit, just shipped all stuff. And he's freaking out in Hawaii, Nola Hawaii, so from one of the most expensive parts of our countries to another most expensive, and he went weeks without a paycheck. And so I was heartbroken for him, but also sort of honored to get this window into the reality of Park Rangers because even with these struggles are still so passionate and that brings me to another great experience. I was in Everglades national park and doing a slew slog, which is where you're hiking in, in muddy waters up to your knees could have pythons alligators in them and the Rangers explaining this in our group has all scared, and she said, well, you don't have to you don't gotta worry about nothing as I got the Lord, I got this stick. And this ranger had described herself as a hillbilly, Alabama, who served in the military to protect America while wearing green and she finished. And she wanted to protect America's nature now while wearing green, and I ended up running into her, again, in dinosaur national monument. And then again in Holly, national park because she worked seasonally and it was fun to see the second time to catch up. And then the third time to get to get an update from her on a really magical experience. I had joined this journey where a wild Canadian goose follow my rafting groups before. And so when I saw her again, I got to say what happened to the goose because she was working there with so very fun connections? That sort of spread the entire length of. So your identity covers a whole lot of ground obviously outdoor enthusiasts a gay man. A working preacher, a classically trained counter tenor. How do you balance all of that on a trip this big when everything you do is being shared with the world real time? How do you find the real mica in all of that mix? Yeah, I sort of joke that if a gay Christian male soprano from the flat state in America can devote three years of his life to visiting the national parks. Don't tell me that there is an outdoorsy type, and that you're not part of that because I sort of go against very many of the prototypes of what you'd expect. It's been a fascinating journey, not just as physical wind, but to start this trip sort of thinking I had to hide who I was for it to be successful. And then in the end finding that it's only by embracing all of those unique traits about myself that this journey, eventually survived in came to completion. So I'm positive that there were opportunities sponsors, that would have loved to work with me that did not because one or some of my densities are all were just to offensive or too risky. In fact, one of them told me in writing that they were dropping me suddenly because I was doing too much LGBT. Owlry. So, yeah, it's been hard to realize that's a reality. But also really, heartwarming to wake up every day in say even if it's Justice three year trip, I figured out a way to do something that many people said it was impossible, and for most of the journey beat entirely true to myself, and wake up every day and say, this might be harder than I thought it might be a reference than I thought it might be way more difficult to complete than I thought. But at least every day that I wake up, I know that undoing something that I feel like is making the world better place and helping others. And if sharing those voluble parts of myself is able to help others than it's entirely worth it. So your trip is obviously, it's a once in a lifetime kind of dream that I, I suspect everyone listen to this podcast is thinking, wow. Wish wish I could do that. You're now what thirty three thirty four years old. You have a lifetime ahead of you having done a once in lifetime trip. So, so what's next for you? Yeah. As you said, this is sort of thing, so many people want to do, and having done it, at least in the way that I did it. I don't do what I did if you argon gonna. Visit all the parks figure out how to have your funding ahead of time or get on Netflix show and be super famous that you can get sponsors easily because making this, my job both in fundraising and putting out a product from experience made it a lot less personally fulfilling..