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"Vince Van Patten former top twenty five player beat John McEnroe also an actor for more than fifty years has been in everything from love boat to Baywatch and he has a new film out that he wrote in Stars in seven days to Vegas not tennis film but a fun film. That's got awesome nice reviews and we're GONNA be talking about tennis. We're GONNA be talking about the entertainment industry and good all around conversation with a real character Vince van Patten. Let's let's bring them in now. Where where am I getting. Where are you? I'm in Los Angeles. You're up early. I appreciate you know get up early. I get up at six. Am Anyhow so so I go to work in a little bit for some studio work for the World Poker tour. I'm always up where are you. I am I'm in New York where you were born. but it's later. I I was looking. I'm thinking you're IMDB page. Run circles around your ATP your ATP bio Baiocco but your ATP BIOS pretty strong I am I thinking you're the only person to have beaten John. McEnroe had a recurring role in Baywatch. That's gotta be correct. That's funny. GimMe Your backstory because I mean you were a child actor. These these credits Mary early and then yeah you play tennis switch over yeah. I grew up in Long Island for the first twelve years of my life and we played very little tennis there. there was too little little tennis courts they would almost black tar by the railroad tracks and and for some reason no one play tennis back then and I father just loved exercise. He was like the only one in the village back then grownup that played tennis and and he almost couldn't get a game of tennis with any the adults 'cause back then the adults weren't doing exercise so you play with kids and he kind of inspired us all to get to the fire fire department to these two stupid courts and play tennis and then we would go out to some one summer Guy In the neighborhood said Dick Nick you gotta go to the US Open at Forest Hills. You know and my father's okay they'd come along so he brought us a long. I was about nine years old. My two brothers and I just took a loving to the game I went to that West End Tennis Club and saw Billie Jean King Arthur ash and Stan Smith and Jimmy Connors play on these grass ask court these beautiful blue grass courts and by the way back then you could go right up to the court walk right up to the court. No one was watching it seemed like and as little kids we squeeze in there and I watch these players play. That's kind of inspired me to play the game of tennis So long story short I never had any lessons like that move to California and then age twelve and it was also an actor. My father was an actor and he he's he's and said. Hey Kids WanNA act. They have they seem like they're going to be outgoing and they would have a good look so try it anyway. I started getting a lot of work as an actor to commercials and TV shows so when I came to California I did both I. I was a child actor. and play tennis on the side never had any formal lessons we played at a public park called. Point Setia Park in Hollywood and and eventually my father. Would you like to play tournament. I says yeah okay. I don't WanNa play tournament. So I play southern California's sexual. I play this kid in the first around Walter Redondo and I've been honest to me because I thought it was pretty good at the time about twelve thirteen years old and but those to me. He's a top seed and any pizza me six one six. Oh I get wiped off the court. He's the greatest junior of all time and but it was encouraging because he even though I got beat so bad. Just something inside me said that you know I love this game and maybe someday I can come back and beat that kind of player all right so anyway junior tennis. I also act I I start getting a lot of work as an actor you know as a kid actor and I did every TV show there was Bonanzas High Chiappa Orell you know you the name of every every ironside and all these TV shows and I never was out of work. I was actually under contract to universal child actor and they put being a series with George Part called the Bravo's and I would get every job I had so basically couldn't concentrate on tennis or schooling doing really I was just working actor and I TV series one was called Apple's way. The other was called three for the road as I got older never had to work in the meantime. We actually play tennis on the wall outside the studio wall and hit against the wall. You know like at lunchtime and that would distract the shooting inside so they'd say dad shut up going to take the tennis racket out of his hand. so that's kind of a combination of of of tennis and acting I was never a top rank junior by loved the game. I got beat by everybody in fact. I don't think I was ranked in southern California until the sixteenth and I think it was ranked thirty five or something in the sixteenth which is terrible in the eighteenth. I still wasn't much better and I didn't get much of a ranking. I couldn't even get into the national terms. I was getting better. I got physically stronger was tired of losing. I started weightlifting which everyone said don't wait list. You can't wait live. That's GONNA. That's terrible for tennis player but I didn't care because I knew inside. Maybe feel good. Maybe feel bigger stronger faster and so I did listen to them. Results got better. I never thing in tennis that maybe a better player was I read a book when I was fourteen years old on Bobby ricks who the court hustler and he'd be Margaret Court of course and lost to Billie Jean King and and I kinda idolized them because I always love gambling and I know he was a gambler and and I read a book called of course hustler and in the book book he tells about all the things he did in tennis and it was great but at the end of the book has a chapter on how to become a better tennis player and in the end it says play airtight tennis and listen. I read that closely and it said don't miss a ball. Make your opponent missed. Never give away a point. I was very radical for that. I didn't know I was slapping. Balls around I never had any lessons and and so I listened to that and I instantly got much better from fourteen to fifteen to sixteen a lot better. I just threw the ball back and ran everything down and made them miss so bobby. Riggs was a big instructor. Obstruct read about how to get better at it helping. What's that you realize how nuts this. This is a crazy story. You realize this I do. I do in the more I all. I realized that she's such a long shot. It just wasn't supposed to happen and but I love tennis and eventually I got repeat up so much and people never been different. Every once I remember hanging out with a bunch of kids fifteen years old all tennis players we were sitting around and they said what are you going to do when you grow up and everyone said their thing I said I'm going to be a tennis pro and they look to me and they all started laughing and tennis but you're crazy. Stink stink no good and I just today. I went okay. I'll show him I'll show them that type of thing so it was all a lot of anger and revenge that I myself going and I still didn't have much of a chance. I didn't get any college scholarships or anything like that. And maybe I would have gone to college. We'll play for a team. I didn't know what was going to do. You know my acting was in the transition wasn't going to be an actor later on could get acting jobs. I don't know or could play tennis and something happened out there. I just hung in there hung in there hung in there and all of a sudden I started breaking through when it was about nineteen years old on the summer circuit in Florida of the American Express Summer Circuit at one twenty twenty four matches in the smallest circuit at a twenty seven and I went from on the ATP ranking five hundred in the world to number thirty eight in the world and that same summer. I went on to be Tom Walker and stance the same guys I looked up to when I went to Forest Hills at eight nine and ten. I was playing them and beating them. It was like a dream. I couldn't believe it and all of a sudden. I said I can do it. I can beat anybody. I had this confidence and I I was the rookie of the year in nineteen seventy nine. ATP Rookie of the year and then I went on in the next excu years and stayed the top fifty and then John McEnroe and had a lot of big big wins had a lot of injuries played on the circuit. I think about ten years UPS in endow. Did he's great when you're winning but horrible when you losing. It's the worst you know you know. It was very lonely back then because he's just on your own didn't have anybody traveling with me or anything like that so so. I'm glad that was over that part of my life but it proved that I could do it. I always felt I could be number. One beating macro I started thinking I'm going to be number. One and overtrained I went to the point where I got obsessed and I would practice a five hour. I over trained and I broke down has big injuries and tried to get past them so that's the kind of story but and it went back to Hollywood after that in my thirties into another thing about the tennis I think is kind of interesting is when you're thirty everybody's saying. Oh you now you get when you going to retire. When you're gonNA retire and back then or anybody around me to say. Don't listen to them. You're in great shape which I was. You're not going to retire and just get yourself back out there. I could play the forty and I could've and maybe that would have been better. Maybe it wouldn't have I don't know I feel like Vincent Pat Needs. It's too option the Vince van Patten story this year a late bloomer. You're hitting off the wall at universal you don't have formal training except for Bobby Riggs Book in your top thirty ready player who's beating John McEnroe and vetus Carolina's and Christine and Stan Smith in in ATP level matches. That's a wild story. I I don't know I don't it happens today. You you play longer than thirty today but I'm not sure you you're a teenager hitting balls against the wall and suddenly become top thirty pro. That's a wild possible. That's why I try. I tell young kids and when they're playing or anybody in life. Don't believe them to yourself. You love something and you put your mind to it. Yes it's gotta be brutally tough but you can't do anything you want really if you need if you need it bad if you want it bad enough were acting in tennis where those those parallel careers did they play off each is a too you simplistic to say boy lessons learned at the back lot at universal.