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Wes Unseld

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Wes Unseld

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Here's Kevin. You're listening to the sports fix. That's right sports. Fix Tuesday today before Tommy's big move. He'll tell us about that. And actually we are reporting this just off the news. That West Sun. Cell passed away. And this was really sad. I saw this right after my radio show. Ended this morning. He's a favorite of yours. He's a favorite of mine. West has been such a part of the community in the DC area in the Baltimore area. For so long. buddy passed away this morning. and he was a seventy four. Years Old you know what not old enough Tommy. passed away from pneumonia He's had lengthy health battles according to his family, they put out a statement but wow, what a! What a big part of this city's sports history, and beyond that you know, just you know sort of a rock. The way he he looked in played on the field, he was person. You know you remember those battles with your favorite team the Knicks when he was in Baltimore and the first year to in Washington but it's sad that wes has passed away. One of my favorites of all. I always had tremendous respect Rooney against him as a knicks. Fan and I Wonder in September, in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty nine. Doing a story for Sport magazine. A profile of Willison wet because they were both going to coach against each other that year in the NBA. West was high happening hired to coach the bullets. And Willis was coaching the net. So th. This would be the first time after playing against each other all those years. They coached against each other and I went back and I read that story that I wrote in Sport magazine, and you know how I always point out that you know the one game where Willis Reed had thirty six points. And thirty six rebounds against West. Well the game before that with the Knicks up to nothing in that playoff series. Wes unseld at thirty four rebounds the entire next team. At Thirty Rebounds Wow. Yeah that's. Kind of wars that those guys fought and I had the pleasure to talk to both of them, and they had such tremendous respect for each other. I, mean this, this was this. was you know like like two great fighters? You know like being like you know having a friendship that lasted all their lives because of the war they want, and that's it was like with with Willis Reed and Seinfeld, I mean I mean you. You could not I can't think of anyone that I've ever come into contact with those basketball. That doesn't have respect for West on sales, incredible respect for WES unseld. You know for me. You know growing up with you know the bullets of the seventies in remembering, all of those games is really you know among my first memories as a sports fan, certainly the early seventies when the bullets moved from Baltimore to DC and Tommy, I was not a bullets fan when they were a Baltimore team. I don't anything really about the history of the Baltimore, Bolliger. During that you know the the early seventies before Washington actually got an NBA team, you know it was college basketball and I was a huge Maryland basketball fan, and that's all I cared about. It was the Redskins in Maryland basketball that was basically it, and then the bullets moved to DC in seventy three. They were the capital bullets that first year, and I was immediately drawn to them was a huge fan in part tommy, because unlike the caps who were an expansion team. The bullets moved to Washington and they were good. Championship contender and so you know that first year I'll never forget the first year. They were here seventy, three, seventy four. They played the Knicks in the playoffs in a in a seven game series, and they lost in game seven and I remember being crushed by that I'll never forget like I can remember my friend Jon Adkins John. John was a good friend of mine, and we had a sleepover at his house on the night. If game seven and we were both huge bullets, fans and And they lost game seven and the season was over, and it was the next season that the bullets were really good. They won sixty something games. beat the Celtics in the Eastern Conference. Finals than loss to the warriors in four games and one of the biggest upsets in NBA finals history the next year. They lost in seven to Cleveland the year after that. That they lost in sixty Houston and then came seventy, seven, seventy, eight, and I was looking this up before the show started, my memory was that West was much older than he actually was during that championship series, and that's why I guess. I'm surprised that he was only seventy four when he passed away this morning I would have thought that he was older. He was only thirty one years old in that seventy seven seventy eight championship season and by the way he was great during the playoffs. Remember when we had the conversation last week about Elvin Hayes may have been the week before, and I said to you I think one of the reasons that people don't give Elvin Hayes as much credit as maybe he deserves is he wasn't great in the biggest games. In their biggest series and he wasn't, but you know who was west was. Wes always came up big in in game. Seven at Seattle clinging to a two point lead West, who is not a good free throw shooter, you know. I don't know what his numbers were during his career. I'd have to look that up in fact I'm going to look that up right now. I'm just curious. What his free throw shooting his career free throw shooting percentage with sixty three, so not great, but in the seventy seven seventy eight season he was a fifty three point eight percent free throw shooter that stinks. And yet at the end of game seven in Seattle, clinging to a two point lead with twelve seconds to go west, got fouled, he went to the free throw line, and he knocked down. Two free throws to give them a four point lead now needed back then time. He was really one because there wasn't a three point shot, but he knocked down both of them with Elvin Hayes on the bench who had fouled out, he got the MVP, and he deserved the MVP of those NBA finals in then. Beyond that what I remember about Wes unseld is I just remembered this incredibly imposing physical specimen you know and he he was a he was the definition of you know a not talking and letting his play you know, be seen through his actions. He was an actions person, not a not a mouthy person at all. He was one of the most feared players right. You'll remember this more than I. He was one of the most feared players in an NBA era of feared players. No absolutely not the guy that you want it to mess with. You didn't want to trifle with West on so yeah. No No. You know what's interesting in this article that I wrote You know I, you know. I won't read. This phrase called. The the will to win is what throws him and Act West about it. And West talked out and echo call the. City he said competitiveness is something that you can't you can teach. But there are some people who have it and some people who don't intensity. I think that's something you can demand on the court. Otherwise, you're not put on the poor. That's the only way you could look at it. He was intent Oh man. He was intense, but you could never. You didn't notice it based on his demeanor. He had this scowl, but you know he didn't smile much on the court at all, but he was so He was so soft spoken. You know for such a like so I. Don't want to forget this. These these thoughts that I jotted. Jotted down number one greatest outlet pass in the history of the game. That's what he was known for for. Those of you that don't know wes unseld. He West unseld had a signature play a signature thing. It was his out two handed overhead outlet. Pass all right Kevin love impersonated Kevin Kevin. Love's middle name is Wesley is father played with West unseld named him gave him the middle name of. For Wes UNSELD and taught him. Wes unseld to hand over hand outlet pass. He was known for that. He was one of the best screen setters and pick centers in the NBA. He was a very good passing big man. He was a dominant rebounder and was certainly at. Points in his career a big time score as well never. You know a huge score like Elvin. Hayes but His. Rookie year, right and Baltimore. He was the finals MVP and the NBA regular season MVP gets the first. Happened and rookie. And Rookie of the year. Prior. He wasn't the fine, no rookie. Your MVP, my find my fear and. Threat though. We've done but done one other time. A, who? A history I forget who who was. But I mean. That's a rare I. Guess that's what I meant to say. Yeah I meant to say rookie of the year and MVP in the same season that first season in Baltimore, but I wanted to tell this one story that Phil Chenier. And I were talking about when I had phil on the radio show last week or two weeks ago and we were talking about West, and I asked him to talk about West's in Elven in an in and you know what people should remember about him because it was just off of that list Tommy of the ESPN's top seventy four players of all time. West was fifty on that list. Elvin Hayes was forty four and He told the story which I have seen in, and I've heard told before about game. Four of the nineteen seventy five NBA finals, golden state with Rick. Berry, against the Washington bullets, the heavy, prohibitive favorite, just coming off in. Eastern. Conference, finals win over Boston. The bullets were supposed to sweep the warriors. The warriors were surprise team out of the Western Conference, and still to this day and I've mentioned this before I. Think it's the single biggest odds upset in NBA Finals History the bullets. Remember that that that that Golden State team with Clifford Ray. And Jamal will right and the coast was Al adult talk about another tough guy. Well, that's what I was GonNa get, too so the story of the the fourth, and what turned out to be the final game of the seventy four seventy five season, it was played the capital center. Golden State's got a three nothing series lead in by the way the thought was phil mentioned this. They didn't think they routed a series down three nothing. They still felt that they were the better. But Rick, Barry's putting together. You know an incredible series and he's dominating the bullets. He's outplaying the stars. Elvin Hayes Wes unseld and in before game four Mike Reardon. Who was the the bullets small forward he was a Knick to you? Remember him with the Knicks he played. He played with both Willison wet exactly my career. His nickname was bags Mike Rewritten was essentially the guy given the responsibility to take Rick Berry out of the game as in knocking him out physically, and that's the. The way basketball was played back then, and the plan was that reardon was going to try to agitate and get into a fight You know an intentional fight with Rick. Berry and game both tossed from game. Four will really gets in the fight and attacks, Berry, and Al Attles was the coach of state will before the Game West apparently was given the responsibility of Al Annals pre-written said I'm going after. Rick Perry I'M GONNA TAKE HIM OUT WEST AL's coming off the bench. You've got him. Engineer told the story about how Al Al Aduls was the head coach of Golden State and was a tough tough guy as you said and when reardon gets into the fight with Berry, and you can see this. This is a youtube game. You can see west. As Al. aduls come sprinting off the bench step in front or rear. And is Chenier, said it took every ounce of the strongest man in the Game Wes unseld strength to keep. Allah handles away from the skirmish. Als. L. Adults got tossed from that game. He got kicked out of the game. which golden state eventually won to clinch the NBA Championship in Washington but Al Adams was not on the floor to see it. He was back in the locker room. Berry by the way did not get booted from the game. He stayed in the game and ended up with you. Know another good game in Golden State won the game and swept the the bullets, but. Listening to Chenier, tell talk about unsettled been given that assignment and West is like man als, actually a tough dude like he's really like who were the tough guys of that era like I know Clifford Ray and Mo- Lucas who played with Walton. Maurice Lucas in in Portland was bought Bob Lanier a tough guy, right? Yeah, these were all all tough guys you know but Westwood West. What's probably? The most feared a of that time West was probably the most feared the guy who I if somebody hits you on the back of your head. And you turned around swing. And you saw with West on south. You pull back. I I love all those stories like I. I was looking through sort of the toughest guys tough iskoe. NBA Player listen. There's a bunch of them and I see west, and some top tens and top fifteen top thirties or whatever you know, Nate Thurmond is on the list in just Rick Rick. Mahorn was definitely a tough guy mcdaniel, yes, good one definitely tough Guy Charles. Oakley Oakley definitely. Well three. It had legendary 'cause I know we're talking about West. But well as had the legendary fight of all time, where they were playing the Lakers in the mid sixties and There was a guy name Rudy. I forget his last name be played for the Lakers and he was, he was considered a a real dirty player, and he did something to well as. During the game and Willis went after him, and the Guy Iran's at a Laker bench, and will basically fought three or four guys on the Laker bench at one time, and they all scattered. Look up the video of it. It's on Youtube. Consider wondering the legendary vice of all time. He has basically wiped out the Lakers. And but they were cut from the same cloth. Seven West they they they were. They were cut from that same intense. Take, prisoners mold and It's interesting when I was talking to West for that story, and I was watching during a practice back. Then you know one or two questions. I asked them was. I bet you wish you had you on that team. You know and he said I think I'd be better if I had willis on that team now I think of Wes unseld I didn't know well. I knew him a little and I hadn't talked to him in probably decades. but he was a lot like Eddie. Murray Personally right very reserved, but but but did he have the same reputation among media members that Eddie Murray had. I don't know if he had the same reputation, but he was pretty unapproachable. In a lot of ways, heritage. Thing what I mean by that is Pity out to outsiders. They didn't know what he was like. The people who he was loyal to who was friends with extreme loyalty. Extreme, Friendship I mean you know people who were close to West Rave about what a loyal friend she was, and that was the same thing with Eddie. Murray, but you didn't get that from the outside. Looking in that this was such a compassionate caring guy. was that the same thing with Jason Worth? I now taking worth who's just an asshole you but to tease teammates didn't think that. No it's teammates didn't think that I I. Don't get the same impression that's as the word was beloved by everybody by by the janitors who worked at at the stadium, like West was by. You know the the lowest worker at the arena. Yeah? You know one of the things when I had fill on and I. You know you and I had fill on and I know. We've had these conversations in the past, but you know. Elvin was not Elvin was difficult. You know in like of of of that. You know of those three guys like there was the era of the. Before Bobby Dandridge got on the team. Where was three stars? You know the bullets had Elvin Hayes Wes unseld and Phil. Chenier you know all three were stars Phil. Chenier was a star. You know in the NBA, and then when Phil started have have the back problems. Bobby Dandridge was signed and. They WanNA title obviously very because they added Bobby Dandridge, he was the key missing piece. In those title teams in the title team in the team that lost in the NBA Finals and seventy nine, but but the you know. Wes was beloved to your point Elvin was really difficult in elven had problem with everybody fill, and and wes but Phil Phil. said that you know. When they got on the court, it was all business it was all professional and Elvin was a major pro, said the biggest problem with Elvin Hayes. He was very insecure. You know and he you know he just he. He felt like he never was getting enough. Credit and people. Were you know thought? Thought more highly of other players than him, but anyway this is about wes unseld rest in peace Wes unseld, one of the greatest really one of the greatest sports figures players in the history of this town. He's a champion. He's a legend. He's considered one of the fifty greatest players in the history of his sport and then obviously his post career as both coach and general manager didn't go quite as well. You know here now. They're always today. I've always talked about that the second act when they go bed. You have a generation of fans that grow up with that as the impression and I always a disappointment. You know it happened with my Flanagan in Baltimore. it's it's happened to some extent with with Doug Williams. Yeah Yeah. Definitely although he didn't have, Doug never had the control over the organization at West did. You know by the way one other quick thing I mean the relationship between Poland Wes unseld was truly. You know according to people that knew you talked about loyalty. Boy Was West's loyalty, Poland and vice versa father and son relationship. Yeah, it really was. Yeah? I mean if people who knew West. Where very loyal to him. It's like the people who knew Eddie. Murray were very loyal to him and outsider didn't get that. They just didn't get that. By the way, the other quick thing about West unseld. For his entire career, he was listed as six foot seven and I remember that sort of like Barclay because Bar Barclay also was listed as six six or six seven, but he wasn't sick. Seven I think West's even admitted this at what some point that he was much closer to six five that it was a program height, but think about that he was. Listed, at six, seven played center, he was a true center in the NBA. That is incredibly short to be a center, but he was such a wide body. And have it. You know you know that at at the basketball guru and I'm being serious. Here I mean I'm being serious actually. rebounding is not about height. No, no, it's! It's about timing position and and smart. and effort. In basketball rebound! saw. Is, as much about heart effort, as it is about other things, but yes technique positioning all of that not to mention. He had great hands. Great hands for a bigger you know less mobile kind of player anyway so wes unseld passed away got on unjust. Never forget those. It's a sad. It's a sad day for. Sports fans do I mean because I mean what fa I mean. It's another Kevin. It's another chapter gone in both of our live. Yeah I mean I don't like to think of it. Don't but. I am surprised. I really was surprised to learn that he was only seventy four years old. Did you know I mean? Didn't you think he was older than that? I'd never gave it much thought, but since I figure, he was probably twenty one and sixty eight. Has a rookie? It makes I mean I was a rookie sixty eight. Cents you know. He always looked like an older player you know. He looked like an older soul older player. You know facially and otherwise but I. Feel like if somebody said to me yesterday. How old was wes unseld? When the bullets won the NBA title in Nineteen Seventy eight I would've said thirty, five, thirty six. He was towards the end of his career. He was the final few years of his career, so he had to be in his mid to late thirties, he was thirty one. He retired at thirty four. Year. That's not super old for for for retirement. anyway Let me tell you real quickly. interesting segue here, but if you were to guess on average, how many days people in the US have to wait to see a doctor? What would you say a week? Maybe actually on average people have to wait around twenty nine days to see a doctor in major US cities basically a month if you're dealing with a condition. Condition like erectile dysfunction. You want treatment ASEP. 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All right there are there couple of other things that I that I wanted to get to before we get to all of the events of the day I wanted to mention that I had John Wall on the radio show this morning Tommy before wes unseld away actually recorded it yesterday, and then we played back today But you know this NBA plan potentially for a restart to the season, which may only include twenty two teams I. Don't Know How much you've read about it. But basically they're going to take teams that were in the playoffs, or were within earshot of the playoffs, and they're gonNA. Let them participate in some sort of shortened regular season, and for the for certain teams like the wizards who were on the outside, looking in, give them away to play their way into the post season through some sort of short you know round Robin Tournament. There are a lot of different ideas of how it would work. But I asked John Wall yesterday I, asked him. If you know how healthy was and he said I'm one hundred ten percent I'm I'm ready and I said well. Now that you know there's the possibility of the wizards, playing may be in playoff games. You know a month from now, will you play? And he said none. I'm not playing until next year. You know I wanna I WANNA get a restart to the season you know. That's that's what we're shooting for I. Don't want to mess up. You know what was going on here and I said well. You know everybody's sort of restarting here. You know by the time this thing starts. It will almost beat the amount of time. That's typical of an off-season. Starting from scratch, it's not like you're going to go back to March eighth or whatever that day was in. Say Hey, the same exact group. It'll be four months. You know you're right. You're right I. mean you know I mean? How much difference is there him starting to to play ball insulated by as opposed to starting to play ball in in September? Yes because September would be training camp. So I agree with you, but he really. He shot it down. He said no chance like they have a date in, so you know part of me. Believes that you know while he says he's really ready and and ready to roll that. Maybe you know they've got a timeline on the rehab and they're not gonNA. Push it back earlier. Than they wanted to, there was something else to just wizards related I'm real quickly. that I didn't get to on the podcast yesterday. There was a report out from the New York Daily News over the weekend that Brooklyn. The Nets have reportedly had internal discussions about trading for Bradley beal, which would pair him up with durant and Kyrie Irving next year and beal in an interview. Friday on ESPN, said quote. It's not the first time I've heard this kind of talk. It's interesting to me. I look at look at it as a sign of respect that I've been doing good things in. In Guys WanNa, play with me. That's an unbelievable feeling when you hear that Kyrie and Kevin Durant want you that Shit's amazing at the same time. You don't know how much there is to it or how easy it would be to do, and I've put down roots in DC and I've dedicated myself to this town. This community I love it here and it would feel great to know that I could grind out winning here instead of jumping to another team, but I'd be naive to say that I. Don't think about it when these stories come up. closed. Quote here had some. Out Comments About John, wall, he said my biggest thing right now is that I wanNA. Play with John Again I. WanNa see him. Get back to the level where I know he can be especially since my games grown so much while he's been out. What can we accomplish together? I'm so happy. He's healthy working his tail off. He's looked great before the the pandemic you know quarantine. He said I was super encouraged when I saw him. Participating in various. You know activities and and he said the few practices that he participated in with US change. The whole outlook of our team closed quote. Man! I don't even know what Brooklyn could give the wizards. The Wizards are not going to trade Bradley beal, but you know. I I've mentioned this to you in the past and is that you don't win an NBA Championship in the twenty first century without a top five player on your team, so if the goal is to win a championship. The wizards aren't going to win one because they don't have a top five player on their team. You know. I, what I agree. I went through the library. Yeah, I and. The thing about the NBA. Is. As, opposed to football or even baseball I think. To some extent. It's so hard to turn around the direction of the franchise unless you get extremely unbelievably lucky. Sunny like like like Golden State? For twenty years. Worth Franchise in the NBA worse in the wizards. And then they hit the lottery. With Klay Thompson and an curry, but they didn't actually hit the lottery. You know they just really like Oklahoma City did like they did something that is really hard to do like getting lucky. Where you get the number one pick and you get to take Lebron, James you know is one thing but they drafted well, and so did San Antonio you know in of course they had David. Robinson and Tim Duncan at the top of the draft You know to get them started, but yeah I mean. Look the it is these sport that is most impacted by talent. If you don't have talent, you don't have a chance and to take that a step further as I mentioned. If you don't have a top five player on your team, you can't win the title. There's one example Tommy in the last in this century of a team winning a title without a top five player was the two thousand. Thousand and four Detroit Pistons where Chauncey billips was probably the best player on their team, and he was not a top five player rip. Hamilton was not a top five player received Wallace Ben while none of those guys were top five players every other team you know starting with shack in the beginning of the two thousands and Tim Duncan, the Spurs, and Kobe Bryant and the Lakers and Lebron. Lebron and the heat and curry and Durant, and the only e Coli Leonard last year there two teams that you know other than the Detroit team that you could debate, but it's a hard debate, and that is dirk. Nowitzki in my view was a top player in twenty eleven when Dallas One and Kevin Garnett was definitely a top five player in two thousand eight when the Celtics won the. The you know you could say no, they're actually the sixth and seventh. Best player wasn't obvious that they were top five player will both of them were first team on all NBA selections in those seasons, so by definition. Nearly they were a top five player Anyway. The point is back to the beal trade thing if I were the owner of the wizards of the general manager, the wizards. And I want to win a championship. I would always be thinking about do I have a top five player, and if I don't. What do I need to get one and that means I'd be all ears on any player that people reached out to me on. I would have to be. I agree. I agree if you're not gonNA, I mean if you're not GonNa win with the guy. If your goal is to win forty five to forty eight games that year, and may maybe if you're lucky, make it to the second round of the playoffs. which has been the measure of success? For the franchise. For the last forty years. You know those. They do that. Those are considered the glory days. When they went forty eight games and make it to the second round. But that? That shouldn't be a goal. You know I mean the goal is to win the NBA Championship and you're not gonNA you're right. You'RE NOT GONNA win it. With Bradley, beal and John Wall. No, that's not that's just not going to happen I. Mean you know if you had a third player? That's a top five, but I. don't think really Hot Schumer is that player I mean I'm I'm been impressed. been impressed him. Complimentary player that's right. That's exactly what it is You know if wall really is healthy and beals really improved which he has, they could win fifty games and win and get to the Eastern Conference finals, and they were very close under Randy Wittman in two thousand, fourteen in two, thousand fifteen. You know without John will if John. Wall doesn't get injured in Twenty fifteen there in the eastern conference finals. You're right. You're right so button eat it. Yeah, he did, and they wouldn't, and they wouldn't have won over Cleveland Anyway so if if they had a better banks. Year after that when they played the Celtics. And Twenty seventy. They had if they were better. Yeah, I, mean and. They weren't going to beat Cleveland more likely than not in the eastern. Conference Finals either I did ask John said, which of those two teams, the twenty fifteen team, or you've got hurt or the two thousand seventeen where you lost in game, seven to Boston, would have had a better chance of winning the conference finals, and getting to the NBA finals, and I said assuming you don't get hurt in two thousand fifteen, and he said it's close, but he he'd go with the twenty seventeen team, even though the. Team had had pierce. Oh I've I nearly forgot. So I asked him you know I had him on for twenty five minutes and I said so. For years with my partner, and with all my listeners, I took a lot of flack for being a huge. Trevor Rees a fan and I said I always thought that it was a massive mistake. After that first playoff year you guys beat the Bulls and five, and lost to the Pacers and you and John. Were you and Brad were young I thought a Reza should have been reassigned I. I'd never thought Durant was coming here, and he just interrupted me and he goes A. A thousand percent a thousand percent we all we all knew it, and we all set it at the time of a major mistake any any. Then he tried to backtrack by saying you know Paul Pierce, who is a good player, but Areso Reza was a leader was a defender. We just had we had the mix that was the right mix in two thousand fourteen so I was glad to see my my very strong. You know hot. Take opinion that I'll never back off of. validated by one of his teammates. I hope you kept that sound bite for for eternity. Yeah, those moments are rare. They're rare, very rare. Trent Williams spoke to Ian rapoport yesterday. And said that he was ready to play last year when he came back, he said you remember the whole thing with the helmet and getting the helmet to fix get fast that they finally that the trainers did in the equipment manager got the helmet to him the following Tuesday when he got battle back late the following week, and he was surprised that they put them on the. You know the the NFL list and ended his season that he was ready to play. That he had to helmet and was ready to play. William thing. Is like a law and order episode. Where they bring in. Two guys accused of a crime and you don't. Believe because both of them are liars. True I it's funny. You say that because I was like I. Want to take him at his word, but the bottom line is I'm not sure I completely believe him right I why. Why would you, but but that means? Do you believe the Bruce Alex I? Mean that's that's what I always wonder. If things I I would say to Redskins. Fan Is. you know, however you side on the Trent, Williams versus Bruce Allin thing if you sight on Bruce Allen's, if you from sal inside look at yourself in the mirror in the morning and stayed that a couple of times and see how that feel. You? Know I just think Oh, the two weeks old. I would give the benefit of the doubt to Trent Williams, and a lot of cases honest with you I. Don't believe either of them. I would definitely give the benefit of almost anybody else. In the case of Bruce Allen, but I just with that whole incident last year I just knew a lot trusted a lot of the information that I had, and I don't believe any of them like I i. actually would lean towards the Redskins, being a little bit mischaracterized by the entire incident with that said whatever it's the Trent Williams, thing were beyond he did of Giggle when rappaport said that you know he couldn't believe that. The redskins ultimately just got a third and a fifth when a lot. Lot more was offered in trenches. Laughs he also, he also said that San Francisco was really the target for him and his agent for you know going back even before the draft because there were some rumblings about Joe Staley retiring and Trent wanted to be in San Francisco and he mentioned Kyle and Mike. He said Mike's around a lot. You know with the forty niners and Christopher stor and Mike mcdaniel and a lot of the former coaches. He's like I. Just really I was always comfortable around those guys, and that's where I wanted to be. anyway last thing before we get the all of the events of the last several days. I want to hear what your opinion is. I have no idea what you've been I. If if you've even had a chance to weigh in on it, but this baseball thing the owners now mulling a shorter season of fifty games I don't know if you followed this. That's the news out of. Jeff Passan, who's been all over this story from the jump? You know the players were at one hundred and fourteen. The other day in the owners are essentially saying the more games we play, the more money we lose. We're up for fifty games schedule and we will pay you. Your entirety of your pro rated portion of your salaries would equal like thirty percent of their annual salary for fifty games. We're at seventy percent for the hundred fourteen game schedule. It would appear to me from afar that they're still so much distance between players and owners that there's not this is not a lock to get done. Now it's not a lot, but I think the owners ultimately. Will Cave under the pressure of of the the scenario of having the NBA Nhl Start while baseball's on the sideline. I think I mean. We're talking about the long term health of your product. And you can't afford to do that. So I think the owners ultimately will have to give more than they're willing to just to get make they get their game on the field Because you can't. You can't come September. Have the NBA underway at the NFL underway the NFL starting and baseball, not doing anything. I mean that's that's long term damage. The players. Those some players will retire. Some players will come back the next year and start making their money again. It won't affect the players as much as will the owners. If the owners have division real understand that. Yeah I, think the sport better be careful because to your point, if basketball and hockey or back playing, and it's exciting, and we're in August and September in their playoff games, and all the sudden football starting, and there isn't a suspension of play, and they complete their seasons, and it's a great thing for the country, and it's a great thing for sports. Fans in baseball sitting on the sideline, watching this play out. Not a good thing. I mean personally my feeling and I know many of you listening. Don't necessarily agree with this, but I think the the this. The last three to four months have made a lot of people realized that they didn't need as much sports in their life as they thought they did. Now I think people would have felt differently. Had this happened during football season or a lot of people would but I think there are a lot of people that that Miss Sports and would prefer to have it, but figured out during this period of time that they don't need it as much as they thought they did. Yeah Yeah Yeah. We need it now, yeah. I I didn't spend a Lotta time on this yesterday, 'cause I did three hours of Radio on it yesterday morning I will. I will tell you telling me that today on radio. I did basically all sports and I. Had Somebody Tweet me? Whereas hold on. I gotta find the tweet she and You are leading the Violin Group on the deck of the titanic this morning. Are you out of your mind? And I came in early this morning, and I had a bunch of thoughts written down and I. Just said You know what I did this for three hours yesterday. Am I gonNa do this every day this week? You know I'm I'm not one of those who feel like. Oh I'm a sports show were doing a sports show. We can't weigh in on you know significant events of the day that are impacting the lives of everybody that are listening to it's like. If, somebody said Dude I tune in. This was yesterday I tuned in for Sports. So if I want the other stuff I'll go to the news. Well, you know when there's a big sports story news. People do the sports, too. You know somebody that does a political talk show. When there's a massive sports story, they'll spend some time talking about the sports in their show, too, but I'm not gonNA. Do it every day of the week in. Other than the president's speech in. The photo outside the church. You know and more rioting and looting and and damage last night. You know there wasn't like a major update to the story anyway, but go ahead. your thoughts. On the last days because we haven't talked since Thursday were. We did talk about this a little bit on Thursday. low babe major update yesterday I mean basically you know the president moving protesters added away, so he could get his picture taken at at Saint John's church across the street, which was all about? So I mean I mean you didn't need to be Sigmund. Freud, to figure out you'RE GONNA make fun of me for hiding the bunker Friday night. I'll show you some courage, buddy. That's what that was all about. That was trump saying I don't like the idea that everyone say that I hit from the protesters Friday night in the bunker so I'm going to show you I'm going to front them I'm just going to get matted away I. Before I confront. It was it was a sad sad day in a series of bad days. it was a horrible horrible look for the country, but for trump. for his. Face and I think that's swindling based, but it's still is based. It's always got. it played right Suet. Keep became the law and order president, and this is what Nixon did, and I lived through sixty eight. Nixon was not an incumbent at the time. He was a candidate against Vice President Hubert Humphrey. But they're into riots and sixty eight. Nixon made a point of making himself the law and order candidate who would bring order to the streets and back to the country and it helped get him elected. so as a political strategy. It I I could see it coming once once you know. Once, the looting and the rioting started it was easy to see that trump would adopt that Nixon style. And so that that that was that was part of the show of force. Yesterday to basically show that he's so law and order president you know. He sort of went a couple of blocks away later in the night where they were busting up windows and breaking into storefronts. That would have been a little bit more impressive show. Than than pushing away all the all the protesters who were considered peaceful from all reports if he walked down Connecticut Avenue and What Little Army and started arrest lure looters there, that would have been impressive practice gym I imagine the look on the people breaking glass windows in jumping into stores. If the President Stan with his arms crossed the sidewalk, checking all that they would've looked like coming out. Yeah I mean. I thought the walk across the street to that beautiful church that you know it's so funny. And I mentioned to you that my oldest son's girlfriend from La had been with us for like the first two months of this thing and one of the days we sort of got in the car and we drove around DC and. Drove Down Sixteenth in in Pennsylvania Down Pennsylvania and went by the church and I said that's the Church of the presidents right there. That's the church they go to and in a couple of weeks later. It's you know basically torched I I thought the walk across. The street was ridiculous thought it was a stupid idea for a photo op. That didn't make him look strong in my opinion made him look like you know. The narcissistic does that. He is I. Mean at the same time I actually? Listened to the speech, the six minute speech to and I I was I was not happy about. The lack of any address late last week over the weekend in Him tweeting out you know from the bowels of of the White House over the weekend I actually thought the look incredibly cowardly. You know and I think some of those tweets were in the area and in situations like this I expect the president of the United States to do whatever he must do to protect the citizens of the country and I thought we should heard from. From him before last night, but I did listen to the speech and I found it I thought it should have included more empathy more conversation about George, Floyd and what he intends to do about this issue of police brutality towards African Americans in particular. I think you should have you know what I before the speech started I said to my son. I think he should say. Black lives matter as part of this address I think he should. rather funk pulled out, but the rest data, but the rest of it. You know the insistence that he will do whatever he can do to protect good people from the the few you know, the minority of bad people that are taking advantage of the situation I had no problem with those words. I wanted to hear those words. You know I I. I obviously nobody nobody well. I wouldn't say nobody. There are a handful of people that think it's part of the process. I'm not one of them. I mean I mean I see the people doing damage to people's lives. Innocent People's lives are being damaged by breaking into these windows by by the rioting by the looting You know it doesn't have to be part of the process and yeah, look. We got snapshot. All you get or snapshot from what's going on out there in the media, you could only take the snapshot for what it's worth, you know. We saw snapshots of of people breaking into the into stores. And looting when you say you're not seeing snapshots literally because there's extended video. Of all that. But. We also saw A snapshot of protesters try to stop those people and actually get the police to arrest some of those people. In certain match back because they know that you know that I mean it damages what what the core is of what they're trying to do it. This is such. It's. Yeah I. Mean What's amazing is we have forgotten about corona virus, and if the fire is is through its form. The, Shit's GonNa to hit the fat in a couple of weeks. Well, I think it's been really fascinating here over the last week two weeks ago, basically half of our well. three-quarters to four fifths of our media were shaming people who were in large gatherings, and now they're handing water bottles out to these people. Really really funny, but back to the speech for a moment because you know. I was listening to the reaction afterwards and I'm like. Am I missing something? The photo op, of course ridiculous, absurd, okay I would have preferred more more empathy you know and if you listen to the the SPACEX lunch speech, there was a lot more about George. Floyd and that nobody listened to that speech Saturday which is fine, but you know to hear people refer to him as a dictator or a fascist. I mean people don't even know what fascism is. He acknowledged that he was. You know attempting to protect everybody including the peaceful protesters who were out there? He wanted to protect their rights you. Know No. One's listening to what he says. Any I did that's. The point that's crowned himself out I think it's just such a complex situation here. The aftermath and the irony and I mentioned this yesterday is that the immediate reaction to this death was overwhelmingly in agreement like everybody regardless of race. Gender Age prof-. Profession. Everybody thought it was a heinous murder. There was no dissenting opinion on this video none. Police chiefs. Predisposed to protecting law enforcement and giving law enforcement, a chance for the facts come out. They were all over television all weekend long current and retired weighing in saying air air. Air From Elite Union. Yeah well, we're from police. You heard from police chiefs. You heard from resume law enforcement people saying this video shows a bad cop who committed murder. In that that was the the immediate reaction was. Everybody's in agreement. Aftermath is so less clear. We have so many people I. Think the significant majority of people who are upset have George Floyd on their minds have chosen to attempt to be part of peaceful protesting as our constitutional. First Amendment allows, and then we've got a smaller group of people in every city where protests are happening, who are fucking it up for everybody else? Including those that are heartbroken over the death of George Floyd even if they aren't choosing to protest there at home watching. That particular group has created as much angst about the current stability of this country Tommy as we've seen in a long long time, you know maybe since sixty eight. People have gone from being sad and angry about George Floyd to be being concerned for their own families in their own businesses. And they are, but they're also concerned about the person in charge of the country. That's what makes what that's. What adds to their concerns. Did they just watched? A leader takes us through with you know with no leadership skills. Take us through this this this. This health crisis that we went through, and now we're going through a crisis. That's probably far more significant, and there's no confidence in him safer safe for I think a a a dwindling fan base. Here's what else I think you saw. with the march across the church. You saw a preview of January if he loses in November, Stop Tummy. All no no. stunning. Michael Moore, I can't take it. Orally really. Why. Why do you think that? I said. That's six days after he got elected. He won't leave. And how does that work explain that to me? Well how does this work? What do you mean? How does this work? He's currently the president. You're suggesting that if he loses the election on inauguration day, he's not gonNA. move out the joy that they're gonNA. They're gonNA be there at the door with armed. You know Maga- hat, wearing people, keeping Joe Biden and his family from moving in. If that's the way it shakes out, come on the charts ridiculous. Election he will night, but you as much money as you're willing to bet that that doesn't happen. I mean see about that's that's. That's inflamed. That's that it's not that speech that site. That's inflaming people's. About the guy really you. Bet Me. I'M NOT GONNA. You about something serious. Really. This is serious. Okay so you only bet on Games You're not so sure of it. You don't really believe that that's hyperbole now you. Know you don't. You're you're smarter than that? You sound like Michael Moore. Percent Look I. I don't believe that for second personally and I don't believe that you actually believe it but whatever. Do you keep saying I. Mean how hoping is so you're telling me I don't believe what I'm telling I. Don't care if it's insulting. You insult me all the time with what I think actually what I say. I. Don't think that you really believe that. He would stand there with armed guards around him and refused to lead the White House. I think he would really. Yes okay I believe you then. It's just a stupid thing to say I. You know here's The issue about what you talked about earlier. Which I'm glad to hear you. You know not be one of these people that believe that everybody's peacefully protesting and that there is an other stuff going on, because there clearly is I mean. You know wake up this morning and I and I see four police officers in Saint Louis shot by protesters. And windows smashed fire set stores looted New York. You know rioters in Seattle, throwing rocks and fireworks in I also had to sit there as I'm watching the. The the them clear out that area last night at Lafayette Square for the the stupid walk to the Church by the president and I'm hearing everybody. Tell us tell me how peaceful the protesting is, and I'm watching some big tall blonde. Do take a swing at a at one of the cops right in the background. Know this peaceful protest. You're watching. You're watching the to WHO's getting pushed that away for doing nothing but protesting. Did you get a picture that guy before the cops started pushing them back I don't I I know that there are definite examples of people of police officers being overly aggressive and being out of line with respect to handling these protesters, and I've watched and I've seen the protesters, and there are lots of them that are absolutely there for the right. Reasons. You know mostly good intention. People who are angry and demanding change once and for all you know and at the same time in every single one of those groups that I've seen. There are people who are antagonizing provoking ill-intentioned people who have other motives amongst the majority of good protesters. I think it'd be an awful job, not an easy job for these police. Officers who were there and they've got this incredible job Tommy Right? What are their responsibilities? The responsibilities are to number one. Up Hold and protect the people's. You Know First Amendment Rights to peacefully assemble in protest while simultaneously having the responsibility of protecting the safety of those people and the people around him. It's not an easy job. I I. Don't know that I've seen only a peaceful protest at this point I mean. How peaceful is it? When the front row of these peaceful protests are people chanting FTP middle fingering the police in chucking water bottles, Adam I mean that's the examples of the peaceful protests that no, it's not. Samples of all the. No, it's not your sample. That's what I watched. That's been what I've seen on TV. I'm selling their walking. Fans No, no, no I watch everything I'm watching all channels. Okay well, you gotta here taking notes on all of them. Yeah okay listen. That's standard for cops. Has To be much higher. That's part of the problem. The problem is cops have to have the intelligence and the integrity to have a higher standard, your first move cat be to walk down the streets of Minneapolis and say light them up when there's people on their porches, taking videos of them. That can't be your first move. Well the first move can't be to. Turn tail and leave the precinct either when demonstrators enter it I, actually hey. I think part of the problem with the aftermath of this situation. Is that in the first few days of this? They were too accepting of the behavior. There wasn't a tough enough stance by police. You know and I think that that essentially created a situation that let the bad guys believed that it was open season on anything that goes, and it also simultaneously conveyed to citizens that were counting on police. Tommy to keep the peace that they're sort of on their own to a certain degree that was certainly the case in Minneapolis in the first few days with that mayor who ordered those police to abandon precinct. Tell me in the history of our country in recent modern times where police ran away from their own precinct. Out The first days. shiftless were terribly mismanaged and that they contribute to. You know making things worse later on and they're still were look. Some bad bears I mean they're in New York deeply. Loss loss Yeah, he i. mean last night said. People were going up and down the streets in New York breaking into stores and stuff like that and the police are nowhere to be found. A terrible. It's I mean that's where again you know. I know that there are examples. I'm sure of police overstepping their bounds, and you're right I. This this riot control thing I don't know what the proper protocol is. I'm sure that there has to be a ton of unbelievable patients exercised by the authorities in these situations, because certainly yes, the the television that I've watched on all of the networks because I flip around all of it I watched even in the so-called very peaceful settings. Settings a lot of antagonizing. You know a lot of by the way a lot of people. They're interested in in almost just sort of recording it on their iphones for posterity that goes for the violence to like a lot of the writing in vandalizing and looting video that you've seen. There are maybe less ill-intentioned people observing in the background, but seeming to get a rise out of it. They recorded on on their iphones. I don't. Find I don't understand. I, saw a lot of people trying to stop the riots I've seen some of that, too. I've seen some of that, too, and I've seen a lot of people standing by Vit- with their iphones out in fact I jokingly said, and this is a joke. This tommy soccer crowd these the people that love that aren't sports fans that adopt the World Cup in the watch parties because they want to be a part of something and all they do is video the whole thing, but no in all seriousness. What the answer is I mean there's so many things going on. And the the George Floyd thing being the most heartbreaking thing in wanting those police officers including the ones that haven't been charged yet to pay the price severely with decades in jail I, hope that happens. And at the same time you know. We've got people who are taking advantage of this situation and most Americans, I think want Derek Show van, and the rest of those officers on the scene in Minneapolis to pay dearly for what they did and I think most Americans also right now are unnerved by what they're watching every night on television. I think both of those. True. I think there's a group of Americans who think that America should be unnerved. Finally that's true, but do you. Do you approve of the means of those people that feel America's should be unnerved and and how they're making America feel unnerved. Do you don't and I? Don't think innocent people and business owners should have to suffer damage as a result of it, but I under I I understand motion for some of them. Look Summer. Just guys trying to just criminal. What percentage of them? The by. Committing, these crimes can take a guess. I. Guess you think it's the majority taking the majority of people you think the majority of people who are looting and vandalizing. And and creating mayhem are doing it because they are so unnerved in upset angry over the George Floyd, murder or not. Now, but it gives them cover to. Okay! Yeah, that's that that would be my answer to I. Don't think it's going, George I? Think the majority of people are set the really want their anger and their emotion to be felt peacefully in a in a legal way I. think that's the majority of the people that are out there. Yeah I, totally agree with you. I totally agree with you. I think the majority of people that are creating mayhem couldn't give a shit about George Floyd. The bigger issue and what kicked all this off? Was the police brutality. brutality particular among people of Color. And a smart president like in an and nineteen in the early sixties, or what was it sixty, eight or sixty four? There was A national commission that was organized by LBJ. Yeah, I think by LBJ basically into study, you know the the underlying factors in civil unrest and I think look every President Obama included has not wanted to touch the idea of police brutality. There's been. There's been I. I covered cops for fifteen years. He's. DISCLAIMER out there. I've ridden along with cops on patrol. In Four states I've been on undercover operations with cops. I've been on special tactical forces with police. A friend of mine soap LAMONICA. State trooper was shot in the face at a traffic. Stop on on Route Eighty in New Jersey I covered I. think close to a lot of cops. There's been an epidemic of police violence in this country for for years. For for years, and it's and not minute black lives matter because it's absolutely true. It's ten fifteen twenty times worse. For for people of Color, but I. For, anybody? In a certain situation when they're stopped by police. I don't people white black otherwise who have experienced that kind of that kind of police brutality? I mean it's. It's a problem across the if you're why. You should be worried about it, too. Because I'm betting. You've got a friend or relative. Some work or acquaintance or know of somebody along the way somewhere was mistreated by a cop. I mean. This murder of George. Floyd was terrible. It was terrible in every single time. It happens. You know we're not. This isn't being introduced to the country. This this idea. This of of police brutality towards African Americans. We've been living through a decade after decade in over the last decade, really the last twenty years in particular because we've got the ability to video a lot of this stuff, it's become. You know a four five six times a year. Thing I I also believe in my heart of hearts that most policemen and women are probably not that way. You know that this is an you know. The you don't have to paint with a broad brush and say that they're all racists that they all are brutal. I just. Actually true either, but it's deep rooted Cultural Problem Within Police Department within law. And why do you think that? I don't know I I don't I? Don't know why. I mean I I, don't I? would be part. No, I don't on this one, but again this this would be. This would be what a leader would do say. We've had this problem for decades. You know and we need to establish and I know. This is a Cliche, but they need to. They need to have a document in hand. Created by experts in these fields on on all sides. So be able to say this is the problem. This is how we tackle it as a blueprint for police departments around the country to to to to stop this and it, it's. It's a deep-rooted thing. T to the original portion of this conversation. Somebody's gotTA figure out a solution to this and ain't easy, but she got to figure out exactly what has happened with real data like real information about what this problem's been quantifying it. How how pervasive is police, brutality and racism in police departments in law enforcement around the country? And how do we rooted out? And keep it from coming back. It's it's all about hiring. Well actually. I mean a lot of people would say it's all about. And the more outside oversight you have. the less. The. Let you're gotTa have these kinds of situations? What's outside oversight? Mean people our profession. They industry in in. Civilian, review boards things like that. look. I everyone had. They have to acknowledge that there is a problem to fix. There's a lot of police departments that would tell you. There is no problem the fit, right. There's a lot of research out there. That would tell you that the the problem is a problem, but it's not what everybody thinks it is in terms of the number is. But, not not the problem does not need. Somebody's kill the problem. Is You're somebody's stopped? You're right at a traffic percent. For something that you and I would not be stopped for I know enough people and I've had this conversation enough times with friends of mine who are black and we and I it always breaks my heart to hear how they view being pulled over, and how they have to have conversations with their kids in their sons in particular about how to handle that kind of situation that I've never had to have with any of my boys now. You suggested that I do have that conversation with my boys, but I've never felt compelled to. I've never had a problem. No never being political remember what happened to. Remember what happened in. College Park with the riots. there were a lot of people that got got hurt by by police. Maryland you're talking about after the Maryland do game. In two thousand ten, we'll yeah friend of mine's son. A white kids student got this shit absolutely kicked him by the PG County Police Avi, I people who that has happened to so my point is wild, it is. Much much worse for people of Color and we can't even begin to understand how bad it for them right? This is a problem that everybody should take seriously, because it's probably affected somebody you know somewhere wider black. You know being being sensitive to this being an issue wanting it to change Is, one thing what the solution is an is another you know. Outside oversight is suggested hiring differently what I suggested. I don't know what it is i. can tell you this time in. You know this because you spent time and I know this because I know I have a very good friend of mine whose brother is been in the DC. Police Department is entire life and a spent many many times over the years having. Having some of these conversations about what they face on a daily basis in putting their lives at risk every day. It's not an easy job and you know, and that's why I guess I I got a little bit frustrated earlier that I'm watching, you know as everyone else is on TV and everybody's got a different perspective, and I want to believe and I do believe that the majority of people are angered. They're hurt and they're there. For Change that they are there to exercise their their constitutional first amendment. Right to peacefully assemble and protest in the name of George Floyd but we are also here over the last several days we've had as much unrest and as little push back in those first few days as we've ever seen, and I would say is what concerns me is when you go from turning over a police precinct to a bunch of demonstrators. What's next you know and when you start shooting police officers in Saint Louis and when you are, you know smashing windows and setting fires, two churches in stores in New York City Washington. To me, we do have to look to yes a person that doesn't have very much in the way of leadership skills. But we do typically need our leaders to figure out a way to protect this and to and to minimize the unrest, while also securing the right for people to protest, but it's getting very murky out there. Here's the. Day. That oath police officers on those frontline. Those people are standing there yelling at you because they think you're the enemy. They. Think you're the enemy, which is a bizarre concept about it. The people who were hired to protect you are considered the enemy. You need to change that. How do you feel about? How do you feel about in these situations? And I think we've all observe this. We've all observed it the situations where you know, if not the majority, the near majority of protesters in sometimes the most provoking, antagonistic or white. This is unique for this particular last week. I don't know that we've always seen this I think we've seen more of this in recent years, but we've seen a lot of it over the last couple of days so long last night and Farragut Square. Oh, yeah, absolutely. They haven't felt what we just described. African Americans have felt. A, why do they believe that? I. BELIEVE POLICES THE ENEMY? The enemy again I hope they don't believe that and I I hope that they understand that in this particular case I bet you. Most of those police are thinking that that Guy Derek show vans at terrible murder to and that they don't want to be associated with somebody like that. But, but but but there have been too many times where this has happened. In the past where nobody from the police departments have spoken up, this is a very unusual situation shaft so much outspokenness about this and still none from the union. Why even the police what? The big problem right there. Why do you think that there's been so much sort of unanimous opinion on this? Misprint one. It was difficult to come up with another side. Jump things are indefensible. Yeah now that's said. He was thrice with third degree murder, and I think that's problem to water. And he was charged with that because and the prosecutors probably right. He, doesn't he or she don't think they can get a conviction on on a first or second degree on second degree murder. They don't think they can I mean because have been other juries and other cases where they've been unable to get convictions murder convictions, so he went for you know the bottom of the rung manslaughter and third degree murder because and he's probably right. I'm assuming it's a man could be a woman. I forgive me if I'm wrong. Wrong that they're probably right that that's their best chance of getting a conviction based on the history of juries, being unwilling to convict police officers, and it's at prosecutors, being unwilling to put forth strong cases because prosecutors have to work with police officers. It seems like once the motion would be. There should be a special special attorneys group in the Justice Department on a federal level that is brought in to prosecute these cases in every jurisdiction of the country. The prosecuting the prosecutor's office works to close the Police Department to early nate them. Yeah well in this particular case, the FBI is in. Yet you know they're the DOJ. There is going to be. There is going to be a federal charge coming more likely than the federal charge, but I'm saying it's always difficult for local prosecutors. Because of their close relationship with the police, it should be on the book as a standard anytime. This comes up. It goes to a federal investigation. I'll tell you what. I. Don't think if they had come out the two days later with a first degree murder charge. It would that it would have stopped a lot of what we've seen on the bad side here over the last several days. Well. I don't know if you even if they I charts the other three cop wise. I don't think it would have stopped this book part of it is. Part of it as the guy in the White House. Look I have a problem is well I. think he is an absolute. Horrible leader and narcissists are never good leaders in crisis situations we want. I think everybody understands that. It's always about them, not about us. That's the problem we've seen that. Over the last three and a half months with that said we've had these situations over the last several presidents Democrat and Republican presidents. You know loved. Presidents despised presidents popular president's unpopular presidents. I will grant you that. This particular issue is unique in a lot of different ways. Starting with. We were all in agreement. There was. Total unanimous, this guy's a murderer. He needs to go to jail and so do the people that stood by and watched it, and since then it's devolved into an unbelievable situation that is by the way Tommy. Come at a time where we have horrible, you know unemployment job loss, desperation people out of work people who've just gone through a a two and a half to three month lockdown. There's a lot at work in this one a lot of it and I'm not going to dismiss the impact that the man in the White House has either. He's divisive in his rhetoric. This this speech on twitter on Saturday was cowardly. All right on the you. You will not get me to defend him at all, but you're not gonNA. Get me to defend the people out there smashing. Setting Fire people either and act like it's based solely on on the guy in the White House it's. Much more. I didn't say that I said he had. He has fueled it. About about about the atmosphere, the pandemic and people being locked up and people losing their jobs and stuff, and I tell you what else has contributed to it. We could use a lot of rain in these cities the last couple of days. All weather if it didn't porn down in defeat last couple of nights, I don't think you've seen the same thing. It is a lot coming together here. I mean it's it's these are. I mentioned this story yesterday. Because I'm pretty sure I told you this story. like a year ago I got into this argument with family member, who was absolutely convinced that these were the most divisive, most polarizing scariest of times this year year, and a half ago and I said come on man, eight half of her cities were burning down. We had a civil war in this country but fast forward a year later not that he saw this necessarily coming, but you know the first major pandemic in almost one hundred years, or over a hundred years and. This sort of sitting powder keg that's exploded in the wake of something that everybody agreed on like. You would have been one thing if you had people out there defending the police actions. If you had people saying we gotta and see, there's context there's there's a back story here. We gotta wait. No one was saying this. Everybody watched that video in. Everybody heard that poor man. Ask for his breath. Tell him telling him he can't breathe. Crying out for his mother. Is just awful. What Derek Show van in those other officers? Did this man awful and at the same time the unrest in our cities? Now you know over the last several nights is unfortunately the behavior of to me. Criminals Opportunists who really for the most part, don't give a shit about George Floyd. And that's got to be stopped to. Yet does. Yet does but not I mean, but but I mean the images the image that we saw. Of Trump yesterday walking over to the Church and before that the police chief from accounts. Wearing out a peaceful group of permits up protests know. No your accounts. Okay, I know where your accounts come from. There are a lot of different accounts on that including three specific warnings to cleared out because you had in a curfew that was imminent. You know three different attempts to cleared back you had you had a couple of scuffles? You had a lot of FTP chance you had water bottles. Being hurled into that situation, it was not a bunch of. It wasn't one hundred percent across the board peaceful people that weren't told to move in stone. Not. J that's like it's not one hundred percent of people of police officers who decided to punch out a cameraman Yeah I got I got in the way, right. It was one. Yeah, just just like it. Wasn't you know in this particular situation? Police backing off and saying you guys do what you want, which happened the first three or four nights of this deal of the? What! What what? What on Lafayette Park? Yesterday has nothing to do with with what the police didn't do in. Minneapolis! Well I sat there, and watched that whole thing and one I don't think that it was totally peaceful as it was described, and as you said from all of your accounts I don't think that it was particularly. You know combative or volatile, either I'm just saying that to paint it. As everybody was down on their knees peacefully protesting and you know that's not true. The the accounts multiple accounts suggest that they are. Creating that no, I'm not exaggerating. I'm not exaggerating the way it was described by many no! No I'm not. There was no violence taking place. There was no violence on the on the on from protesters. Taking place. There was also movement when they were asked to move. So, what do you what do you? What do you do? I don't know you tell me I. Don't know what the protocol. Lewis you tell the president to get back in fucking White House and you leave them there. I don't mind. That is the answer. I don't mind that as the answer. But but I also don't WanNa hear that these people were totally To do whatever they were asked to do without any violence or any pushback or any antagonism. If look I think that's an exaggerated you which view that you just described? Yeah. I think they were just. People that said that we're exaggerating. I agree yeah. Yeah, okay. I thought you were saying that I was exaggerating it. No, the people that said that we're exaggerating it and they painted it that way after the fact, but again. Here's the truth on all of this stuff. We're not there. You're not there and even if we were, we still probably wouldn't have all the answers just like I don't know if this. Or I don't know if this is white supremacists I. Don't know if they're right. Wing extremists, left-wing extremists are just local opportunists that are taking advantage of the situation and I. Don't think anybody knows for sure right now I. Don you're right I? Think with all the information. No, for sure. Here's what we do know for sure right? Here's what we do. Know for sure. There's some bad people out there doing some bad things right now and they've got to be stopped. They do they've got to be stopped? Because we ne- and with people are sad and concerned about what happened last week in Minneapolis, and now they are concerned about their own well, being in the well being of their businesses and families, and you can tell me that you gotta feel uncomfortable, so there are people out there that WanNa. Make you feel uncomfortable. That's fine. I felt uncomfortable before, but what you're GONNA get is you're going to get a whole lot of people that are concerned in also willing to fight back, and that's when in these in these situations you end up with more than just civil unrest. You end up with a lot worse. You rely on your your government, local and federal to. Keep you protected in these situations? Let's see if they can handle it. But anyway what else? I got nothing else, but I'm getting ready to move. You're moving tomorrow. Are You doing the? Moving company. My Days of college moving or are over I. mean there's nothing worse than moving. And we're moving to the fifteen minutes away to a condo and Frederick. Did you call friends? In the last couple of days to say, hello see how they're doing. Actually I spoke to Pat Gillick a couple of days ago, really eighty to eighty two years old, and still doing scouting when he came for the phillies. And you reached out to Pat Gillick. You've got quite the ROLODEX W. I called him and he wasn't hold and then ten minutes later, he called me. That's really nice. We've had a great relationship with Pat Ever since he was in Baltimore with the Orioles, we went out to dinner one night at at a little Italy and Polish off a Shitload, a wine and we've been tight ever since. And I guess what I finished my screenplay, finely all right. Yeah, so so so let's it I know you. You know a lot of important rich people in the movie business. So I'm I'm hoping that you're going to be over to help me out with this thing. You know. I'd like to read it I. I'd like to make sure it's not like threat level midnight here I'd. The make sure it's not a Michael Smart, special. I WANNA make sure it's professionally done, and then I'll help you out I. CAN'T I? Don't know anybody that can help you out. I'd love. I I'll. I'll get copy I forget it registered I with the writers. Field of America to make sure nobody steals it, and then I'll get a copy and is that what is that what you do to protect it is that? Yeah Yeah Yeah. How did you even know that? I mean I know that for years. I mean look I wrote a couple of short stories, thirty or forty years ago, that wound up getting bought to be made into movies. For very small price and they never got made. But so I knew that from back then. I just have that now interesting. good luck with the move. I'll talk to you on Thursday. All right bought healthy. We're done for the day I'll be back tomorrow.

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Wes Unseld Always Did The Dirty Work

The Lead

19:31 min | 2 months ago

Wes Unseld Always Did The Dirty Work

"The. Last week, the basketball world lost a legend. Sad News to report legendary. Baltimore Washington bullets player WES UNSELD has died. UNSELD was the league's MVP rookie of the year nineteen, Sixty, eight sixty nine season and a five time NBA All star, West unseld played his entire hall of fame career for the same franchise and lead Washington to their only championship in one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy eight. Today. We're by the Athletics Fred. Katz who spoke with the number of unseld teammates to look back at his life and career, including the physical play and the unselfishness that defined him I mean look. He average like ten points a game in his career, and was a surefire hall of Famer. I guess just a great microcosm for what his career was. The Guy who was going to do all this stuff nobody wanted to do and he was GonNa do it at an elite level. From wondering athletic I'm can beat the Davidson and I'm under Scotto. It's Tuesday June ninth and this is the lead. It felt like something was happening. There is something about the emotion. For. The past don't. Pay Mc. Listen this story. Be The athlete. It stays with. So Fred first question. How would you describe WES UNSELD playing style? Well he was. Physical About six, seven, six, eight about two fifty. BEEN NFL her. He was this undersized center yet to find ways to compensate for that right, so he was a tremendous rebounder just because he got incredible position aimed Johnson again. Tapped up an end by big wash. WHO had rebounding position? Until twenty three rebounds that. Hid these incredibly soft hands, which allowed him to grab rebounds and make these amazing passes one of the best outlet passers specifically of all time. And the robot by way of buffets. Outlook badly known so well. The ultimate jody work kind of guide about crowd applauding the accident hunsel. What a job here that in this I? Just a little bit of thank. You Talk to some of his former teammates. What did they say about him? And and the way that he played I? Think the ultimate thing that you get from them is that he was incredibly unselfish. He didn't care about how many shots he got game. He would sacrifice his body. He would leave games. Just totally bruised up. He would kick. Guys just need guys opposing players in the back of the leg games, Cuba throw elbows. He would take elbows, so I spoke to Phil Chenier. WHO A longtime bullet! He liked the physical contact bill. Go get all the. Thought you would get in front of him? He kind of does you. Pushing. Course Survi- like these and take plus for him to push me out the way you know, get picked up a lot of that Bob. Dandridge was teammates with him for four years, and he really saw from two perspectives, because Dandridge was a member of those really really good teams with Kareem abdul-jabbar and Oscar Robertson before he ended up coming over to the bullets. Bobby Dandridge told me that when he was with the bucks and t much with Kareem abdul-jabbar. That Kareem said you know, I might have gotten forty on him, but I'm walking away with Bruce's on my hips and my legs and my body. Played Against Kareem them and bruise in them and Fowler them and I had the opportunity to sink Corinne just. For the peel of relief, when he could come out of the game, and get a rare from the physicality of wet, and that's kind of what it was. It was just a remarkably unpleasant experience, being guarded by him, and you told us great story about West until being interviewed by a former reporter from the Washington Post, so this is David. Pretty David Dupree. Legendary beat writer for the Washington Post and covering the bullets for much less unseld career. In this one time he walked into the locker room and he saw west. This was after a game immediately after he saw sitting in front of his locker, shirtless smoking a cigarette. Beer took his shoes Jersey off all these bruises and stuff you know. You're like smoke. You. You burn up like one word about knocking destructive. You can write that I smoked. You can write that I drank. But you better not say one word about that I'm indestructible and I think that's like the ultimate wes unseld tale, right? It's him saying. Yes, say whatever you want about me, but people better not know. That I'm moral because I'm going to go out there, and I'm going to fight with somebody the next night to and I. Don't want them thinking that they can hit me in the ribs and I'm going to bruise. So. Came into the League in one, thousand, nine, hundred, sixty eight. How much did he transform the Baltimore Bullets when he arrives? Oh completely by the time they draft. Wes unseld, nineteen, sixty eight. They have still never had a season where they finished above five hundred, coming off a year where they go thirty, six, forty six, they had some solid young talent, Earl Monroe was coming off of his rookie year, but they were still an afterthought within the league they draft unsettled, second overall, and all of a sudden they shoot from thirty six wins to fifty seven wins just during that rookie year from contender for rookie of the year honor. Say Forty Five. Becomes one of two players in NBA history to this day to an MVP as a rookie season. I think West unseld, not just with these physical play. The hand of the way that he changed how that organization operated had a major impact in not just turning around their win total, but kind turning around the entire way that the organization conducted itself well, and in addition to transforming the bullets. Wes unseld apparently also transforms his height when he came into the League. So the story at least as he used to tell, it was before the nineteen sixty eight draft, he measured up at six foot, four and five eighths, but if you check behind, he was listed at was listed at six foot seven. I measured for the rare, and they told me that there's no way with the simple each ship. Ship what? The bullet said they didn't want to draft a center that was under seven because there were a ton of great big men back then, and the game was really ruled by big man. Cream. Abdul, Jabbar was coming in, and will chamberlain was still awesome, and you just couldn't justify I guess taking a center who was six foot, four and five eighths, so the bullet said if we're taking you center your seven, and they just kind of listed him at six foot, seven to justify taking a six foot, four and five center, and it worked. He guarded those guys as entire career, and he's looked at is one of the best defensive centers of his era. As you mentioned. He's one of only two players to win an MVP award in his rookie season, the other being wilt chamberlain, but the crazy thing about that is he was the fifth leading scorer on his own team when he won league. MVP How is that possible? Well first of all, I'm not so sure it's something that would happen nowadays like. That voters work I think the voting is changed, but it's a great example in general of how much basketball has to do with things other than scoring for yourself. Because he was great at pretty much everything else, he was still a fine, enough score, average thirteen again that year, which especially as a rookie coming into the League is pretty good, but he averaged eighteen boards game, which is ridiculous number now and was still a fantastic number. Then he was already a great defensive player. Right off the BAT, which is super rare at age, and I think most importantly in the voting I think it probably had a lot. Lot to do with the Wind Joe I. Mean they go from thirty six to fifty seven wins, and you look at the roster, and you think all right. What changed well? They added Wes Unseld, but I think it's also kind of a tribute to how great he was at all the dirty work stuff. I mean, look you ever Ge like ten points. A game in his career was a surefire hall of Famer. I guess just a great microcosm for what his career was. The Guy who was going to do all this stuff nobody wanted to do and he was going to do it at an elite level. With on once, said that his favourite season in the NBA was his rookie year. Because I think that was the first time that this team disorganization started to develop. Traditionally. It was one of those things where we became close knit and we started. Something that we tried to get other guys to live up. The bullets were really a blank slate. When he went there, there wasn't an identity in the history of the franchise they had been around for not yet a decade. This was kind of to some degree a new franchise people didn't really associate with anything positive or even much negative yet. They were just kind of a franchise that wasn't much in a time of the NBA that was. was really to this point dominated by one or two teams right and I think he came in and all of a sudden. They're one of the best teams in the NBA and I think he took a lot of pride in that transition. He was league MVP collected a lot of awards over the course of his career, but it seems like he genuinely did not care about recognition. No. He didn't care at all. ACCOLADE or Luder. Ride your mom in it. Get a lot of stuff ever complained about that. He would be one set. The water behind foes. Would make passes. That's the reason. He played the way that he did. He just didn't care about recognition. He didn't care about recognition his life I mean he and his wife put together a school that they opened up in the middle of his playing career in the late one, thousand nine hundred seventy s called unseld school in Baltimore. And he didn't even tell a number teammates about it just because he didn't do it for the props, he just Kinda did stuff because he thought it was the right thing to do. He had a code of ethics that he believed in. And that's kind of what he lived by, and I think that translated to his basketball with the way the he performs, he was a very low maintenance personality, very low ego, personality, and I think that kind of shine through in most of the things that he did so the bullets became a perennial playoff team with unsettled, but for his first nine years they came up short in the playoffs including getting swept in the NBA finals twice. They have beaten the wash. Credible. Wes unseld deal with those losses, not well I. I think that really brought him down. They got crushed by the bucks in seventy one, and they got crushed by the warriors and seventy five I mean. To sweeps those get. Those series weren't even competitive. Even scrap one by the time they got back to the finals in nineteen, seventy, eight his third trip, he had never even won a finals game at that point and you know. The nineteen seventy eight finals was kind of an amazing thing never in my wildest dreams, and I I would stand before you on this Sunday and save for the championship. We've got Washington and Seattle to amazing turnarounds by these ball clubs. This pretty incredible. Incredible because that team won forty four games, wes unseld played for the bullets for thirteen years there were eat west unseld bullets teams that won more games than the seventy eight team, so they play the Sonics and seventy eight, and that's series was incredibly close I mean that's series wasn't just a seven game series. Six of those seven games where within single digits you actually talked to Phil, Chenier about game seven in the seventy eight finals. What did he tell you about was unsettled? He said that West would do anything short of commit murder. He has this determination. He said I do anything shorter word. To wear the gapes out, and I think that team was wildly competitive about wanting to win that game seven and it was a great game seven. Washington that come on I am Bernie. BICKERSTAFF are lysine over there as the Washington bullets jubilantly file off the floor and the crowd here in Seattle rather than. Come Stewart Creek, and gives both teams are tremendous, ovation, Freddie, Brown and Wash until shaking hands at Mentor Somebody that. Deck to the to the City Baltimore in Washington and the Organization and somebody that was. Good teammate all the time all these year. Couldn't help but be happen for him. I think it meant everything to him. He puts so much at risk throughout his career and sacrifice so much throughout his career, he didn't care about winning finals MVP and seventy eight. He just kind of cared that he won the finals Andy cared that he was going out there and putting his body through in order to help his team win, and the fact that you added into the greater context of look at all that he had to do to get to this point during his entire career, it must have been incredibly overwhelming to win. That title and based on what everybody told me it sure seemed like that was the case. There's lots of great ways to start off your day a good breakfast walking the dog, but what about starting the day with making up your bed? I mean what feels better than a freshly made bed. How about this sheets that go on it Brooklyn in his home of the Internet's favorite sheets, and once I put a set on my bed, brought new life to my bedroom space. Now I can't wait to crawl into bed every night. 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Office for most of nineteen, ninety six to two thousand and three Michael Jordan spliced in there for a little bit, but for the most part wes unseld is running the team from nineteen, ninety six to two thousand and three, and in the meantime in his personal life. He's still dedicating himself to the school that he put together, which is still going on in Baltimore forty something years after he opened it his wife. Connie is still running that school to this day. His daughter is a teacher there now, and he would go in there, and he would drive the bus. They will call a Mr. West the kids and the kids just as Mr Wes. He'd go in there. He would drive the bus or he would paint the gym or if they needed to put backboards in the gym. He'd put got up. He was doing routine maintenance work. I mean it's funny because he was kind of doing the same job for the school that he was doing for the bullets where he figuring I. Don't really care about doing the stuff where people see me. He was just doing the stuff for the school that matters taking the kids to school. I love imagining the look on parents face if it's like nineteen ninety and you got a thirty five year old parent who grew up worshipping Wes Unseld, and you've got thirty five year old parent putting their kid on the bus and you look at the bus driver is wes unseld I just. I just can't imagine what that would be I mean. I'm from New York and I'm trying to imagine what would happen if I grew up in the nineties New York if I put my feature kid on the school bus and the bus driver is Derek Jada like. I just can't imagine how I would react to that. The fact that he stayed in basketball. Further shows is unbelievable. Love for the game. And I think all the stuff we did with the school. Just further shows how much dedicated himself to the causes that he believed in, and in the ways that he believed that those causes should be dedicated right. A key wasn't necessarily getting in front of the school and giving inspirational speeches about. Here's what you can become if you try hard enough. That wasn't the way that he chose to contribute each us to contribute to paint jobs and bus driving which was. A far less glorious way to do it, but that was his legacy right just being glorious at the totally not glorious things or Fred. Thanks so much for joining us today. Yeah, thanks for me this great. You can follow Fred. Katz is coverage of the Washington Wizards and read his story in remembrance of Wes unseld at the athletic dot com. From wondering and the athletic I'm under scelzo. See You tomorrow.

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Hour 2 - Kareem Abdul Jabbar (06-02-20)

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Hour 2 - Kareem Abdul Jabbar (06-02-20)

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It has to story about borders, migration and corruption. We talked to victims, families, FBI agents and a former. US Ambassador to understand why these crimes remained unsolved. Listen to forgotten women of whereas on the iheartradio APP or wherever you get your put costs. You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox sports radio. Welcome to our to on this Tuesday Dan in the Danettes Dan Patrick show the Greek Kareem. abdul-jabbar will join us. He wrote a very powerful op ed piece for the L. A. Times. We'll talk to him. About how we move past this. How do we make this better inclusion what roles to play? Just saw that wes unseld passed away. Longtime NBA player coach. Executive Basketball Hall of Famer passed away. Wes unseld was one of those rare players that was probably maybe six seven, and he played center. But he was. It felt like he was as tall, is he? Was He was that wide? He was, but he wasn't a great leaper. He was just he he. He knew how to rebound. Take up space and he was a great player. Wes unseld in the outlet pass is what people always talked about, but West. Played for the bullets longtime with the bullets. And I believe he won an MBA. I, don't think he was there. When the bullets WANNA title, but Wes Unseld is passed away a hall of Famer. See. Some of these guys and you wonder how basketball is full of players that you go. It just doesn't make sense. And Wes unseld was one of those guys Paul Silas who played for the Celtics? These guys are about six seven six eight. They couldn't. They didn't jump, but they were unbelievable rebounds. I got WES unseld six seven probably to sixty. And he was every bit that and he was just this block that was there and. From Louisville. Yep. A seventy seven seventy eight bullets won the finals four three over the supersonics. And as He was a deep into his career at that point, okay. Yeah. They had Elvin Hayes Kevin Greedy a Bobby Dandridge on that team Phil Chenier that was. A fun team back then but. How old was west? UNSELD I I just saw the tweet from family seventy, four seventy four. Yeah! and. You know a lot of times. You don't see these players. you know they're not? They didn't they weren't in the TV era? There guys that missed the TV era, and I wonder how their careers would have been different. If you've got to see them play. Now less wasn't an exciting player. West was just one of those guys. That was there every single night and he did what you wanted him to do what you needed him to do. He was great rebounder and. Trying to think some of the. Other places Elvin Hayes. His teammate was another guy who missed out on the TV era like he benefited from the game where he beat lew. Alcindor and UCLA and he had this unbelievable performance he was on the cover of sports illustrated, but the biggie Elvin. Hayes was a wonderful player hall of Famer, and but if you didn't get to the eighties. When magic and Larry came in. That feels like that's the black and white era of TV where you're watching, and you're going. That's completely different than what we were seeing. When Bird Magic came into the League but. Wes unseld passing away. Yes, Paul Yeah, you're right guys like Elvin Hayes and in one, thousand, nine, seventy, five or averaging twenty four and fifteen and five years later. They're at the downside career and that's when the TV starts. We'll talk to Kareem abdul-jabbar. He'll join US coming up. We gotTA poll question. mclovin yeah are. You okay with permanently expanding MLB playoffs to fourteen. Fourteen Games fifty eight percent say no. Oh, they don't want expansion here. I! Tell you why I'm for it. Okay because I feel like July, first sixty percent of the league's has done for the season. We're going to trade all our players like everybody tanks. Every season is just like half. The league just sloughs off also. Yeah, now everyone will be in play. I'm okay with it this year. I just WANNA I wanNA I. WanNa see how it feels where you're going to have more playoff teams in major league baseball. At this point, we're not going to have more games. Regular Season Games I'm okay with more postseason games, but what happens is once you do it. It's rare when you go back and say we're. Not GonNa we're GONNA table that it feels like from ten to fourteen. You're adding revenue in the postseason, which is good for the owners. Therefore, this is what they would want. Would of the players get out of this? How about we get baseball back on the field? How about we do that? I'm okay with that I'll take ten playoff teams. I don't need fourteen. Got some notes here wes unseld is the bullets wizards all time franchise leader in regular season, games and postseason games as well. I don't know I, know Corinne played against West until. But I don't know if there's a shorter sennar. In the hall of fame. Then Wes unseld. Because he was six seven. You people always say I'll Sparkley, really you. Under six five and go yeah. Now he can't be way play. He's one of those guys that defies logic. steph curry defies logic. There's certain players where you go. That just doesn't make sense. And Wes unseld was one of those players. You just watched him. He went. He doesn't jump. But he gets all the rebounds Moses Malone was another guy. I never thought he was that athletic I just thought he was unbelievable on the offensive and defensive glass. Unbelievable never stopped like you think Rodman's a great rebounder. Moses Malone would also get you twenty five a night to go along with those rebounds. I saw this story. And it was a column written Saturday by a former NFL executive and a current CNN political analyst Joe Lockhart. He said that the League attempted to convince teams to sign Colin Kaepernick in two thousand, seventeen in two, thousand eighteen. He felt that they had done a righteous job. Based on the events in Minnesota this week. La Carte now realizes how wrong he was. In attempt to right or wrong. Lockhart believes the Minnesota Vikings should sign capper nick to a contract. Give him a legitimate chance to compete for the backup quarterbacking spot in training camp. Lockhart writes the situation in Minnesota right now offers a unique opportunity to deal with the symbols of racial injustice as a small but important step the owners of the Minnesota Vikings. Ziggy and Mark Wilf. Can send a strong message by offering Colin Kaepernick contract to play with the Vikings bringing him bring him into camp. Treat him like any of the other players given a chance to play the game they love. Wow. Joe You realize what this sounds like. Hey! Calling come on, can you help us like we screwed this up, can you? Can you make good for this? This'll make. This will make you know the murder of George Floyd go away. Wow! That's really nice. The Vikings now. You're saying that they should bring him in. DO THEY WANNA. Bring him in how about three weeks ago should you brought him in three weeks ago? How about a month ago? How about a year ago? How about two years ago? He come on. A Colin captured can come in and help us out here. Lockhart goes on to write. It will not solve the problem of blacks in police violence, but it will recognize the problem that cavern powerfully raised in perhaps show that with courage real progress can be made. This is in progress. You blackballed him. He hasn't played since twenty sixteen. And he did have a peaceful protest, and that wasn't good enough member. Remember the NFL the owners. President Vice President that was a peaceful protest about what happened in Minneapolis. Now if you said to me, Colin. Kaepernick has a legitimate chance to beat out kirk cousins fine. But. Don't bring him in. Say Hey, we fix that. All good now. You settled a collusion suit because the owners conspire to keep calling capture nick out of the NFL because he was bad for business. This appeal our move. This is horrible. It's embarrassing. Hey come on in and and we'll give you a legitimate chance to start. What does that mean? Would you give him a legitimate chance and why the Vikings? Just to see if floyd had died and been murdered in Dallas, would you say to Jerry Jones a cherry? You should bring him in here. This could help things out that happened in Cincinnati happening Cleveland Los Angeles. Hey happened in Minnesota. I know this'll help things won't. And Colin Kaepernick is not playing in the NFL. Set it at the time. He's not coming back. Because I know these owners. That debuted. Him is bad for business. We can have this on our sidelines. But he did protest. And it was. Nonviolent. Protest He took a knee. HOW SYMBOLIC! Need took a knee. But to say we're going to give him a chance now. He gets to come back. Are you really giving him a chance? It feels like this is something the NFL would do. Hey, guys! Mom's be a really good pr moment here can it gets comeback if I'm captain, capper Nick Is. So much more powerful now than he would be if he came back and played football. Because, you keep looking at this in even more even more so today. We're looking at Capri consenting. See. This is what he was talking about. And, I've heard from everybody I know people get riled up and this is about the flag. No, it's not about the flag. This is about the moment where people can see what I'm doing. The moment that everybody is watching I'm taking a knee I want people to understand why I'm taking a knee to ask questions. I'm looking for social reform. I'm looking for this. Somebody to correct an injustice. That's what he was saying now I. Don't agree with all the things that Cabernet did or how he did it when he had a t shirt that he was talking about Fidel Castro. I had a problem with that copses, pigs I had a problem with that because there's so many wonderful people who are in the police departments, the police force. Another thing that happened and this is an aside to everything that's been going on all of the goodwill that the first responders build up in America, and that includes the police through all of this with the corona virus with the pandemic. Feels like that's all washed away. We somehow forget about all of those things. All of those great people on the front lines who do things who do it the right way every single day. And those people shouldn't be forgotten. We shouldn't look at them and look at them in a suspicious way. We shouldn't. I know people will, but we shouldn't. Because there are great people who do this. And I think that we're going to. We're going to move past that unfortunately. Forget what they were doing when their lives on the line. And they were serving our country. But the Colin Kaepernick thing it just I was reading. It and I just went that. That's tone deaf on Joe locks part. It's a PR move and that will make everything better. Because if this is in another city, are you asking Jerry Jones to bring him in? You'RE GONNA ask you to come in and Minnesota because it happened in Minneapolis to me. Is Pretty Pretty Hollow. All right seven three DP show email address GPS Dan, Patrick dot com. Anything else that needs to be mentioned? We update the poll results mclovin. Yeah, people do not want to explain that expand the MLB playoffs permanently into. What time is cream GONNA Jonas fritzy. Kareem just checked in. He's in our zoom waiting room for whenever we want to go to all right. We'll take a break and look I. Know Part of this is to make. You feel uncomfortable I mean that's really what this is all about when people speak up, does it make you feel uncomfortable because it should? We tend to socialize with people who think the way we think. But sometimes having that person, tell you something that makes you a little uncomfortable or makes you question or makes you. Curious about something. And look how Jackie Robinson do today. How would Muhammad Ali today? The Olympian Olympians Tommie Smith and John Carlos how would they do today? Social Causes. Michael Jordan famously a political. Ali's death. It felt like a new generation of athletes to embrace activists when you think about it. I think there was a whole new generation that went. Wow! What. happened. And I think a lot of these athletes only saw Mohammed. Ali, as maybe somebody in the throes of Parkinson's. Maybe at the Olympics lighting the torch. Maybe in the ring, but what he did outside the ring when he lost his heavyweight title. Took it away. But the reaction of his death. And I remember we talked about it. His legacy. Might be what he did to a new generation. It was four years ago tomorrow that Mohammed Ali passed away. Now have we made progress? You probably argue that we haven't have. We made progress from athletes. Celebrities standing up, saying something being on the frontlines not worried about being criticized. I think we have. I applaud Lebron James Tom Brady. But while I applaud them, this is what they should do their people. Not just athletes. And if tiger, woods doesn't want to say anything or Michael. Jordan doesn't want to say anything that's up to them, but those who do speak up. I think a lot of that is because Muhammad. Ali stood up for things. He fought against things. And I can't help but wonder. What would he say today? How would he say something today if he? In his prime was Mohammed Ali. What would Jackie Robinson say? But it's not incumbent upon black athletes to be the ones who speak it's all of us who should be speaking. The Great. Kareem abdul-jabbar will join US coming up next seventeen after the hour. Take a break back after this on the Dan Patrick Show thanks for listening to the Dan. Patrick! 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Don't know if you saw this. I hate to bring it up to you now wes unseld. Passed away I know that Species. Or your. And I was trying to tell people. How unique WES UNSELD was you know? He missed out on the TV era, but it felt like he was six seven about two fifty to sixty. Yeah. You had to go around repealing. Or sometimes you get lucky reeks over. Get a rebel, but. was was graded. Just seek to keep you away from certain areas in. Rebound could bounce off the floor and he pick it up because we get to that position on or. Be Learned how to use his book and size to. To to give himself a rebounding space center. You very active. At Yeah. He was one of those guys who defied logic. He was like Paul Silas. They weren't great leaders, but felt like they were getting every rebound, and he played on that great bullets team with Elvin Hayes. Phil Chenier that won a title. I love the op-ed and the L. A. Times obviously very powerful, but I've come to expect that from you. Take take us back to late sixties. We are we any better any different now improved in handling these situations. I think we've been through the ups and downs over. We've seen the. Progress and then the backsliding as occurred since the. Eighty of the civil rights. I remember when between my junior, senior high school or a young man. James Powell got killed on the streets of New York wire by police officer. Arlen broke out about two release. Bryant's. So that was thirty six years ago. So none of this is new. Sacred so many times before we have to do something to. Get to point where. This is not A. Doesn't happen blanket. Does it just seems to? Cling to. A really bad situation every time, so we got to learn how to deal with that, but I wonder about everybody's role in this because it feels like if something happens, we tend to put this on the black community to say hey, this is on you when it's really on the white community to understand this, or how do we advance this if you were going to speak to the audience? Act to say that. If you when it's easy to dismiss somebody humanity, and the fact that they are person with rights and our expectations that the known should mutually respect. When it goes out the window. All these abuses are. They just become commonplace. And The whole idea that. A segment of society is considered not worthy or not. WAR IS GONNA lead to what we have seen apple. And you start to wonder about. We've had these great leaders. Like Dr King or if Mohammed Ali was still alive I wonder about just these individuals in what they meant to history. How would how do you think Dr King would view what happened in Minneapolis? While he would see in. Conjunction with all the other lynchings and murders of black people at A. Prior to that. It's not her. Uncommon story, it's too commonplace. That I think that's. Why we've don't do anything to change it because we've executive for so long. I also worry though that we move on so quickly Kareem when something happens. And then we're outraged, and then this will go away. This will dissipate We've seen this before. And then the next outrage will get everybody excited for a little while and then bill. Forget about it because we've accepted it for so long, it's just. The. The way that we do business and we can't do that anymore. There has to be some type of changes and what it's all about I think at this point is we have to find some means to? Deal with bad cops. Bad cops naked bad for good cops make it better for citizens of color. Poor people a bad cup. Sir are able to just do what they want in those situations so. When we get to the point where? That's not a problem. I think you will have made a lot of progress. You were one of the more famous teenagers in the United States when you were playing at power memorial, you have any run INS with the police. Of course. Of, course it own I had a gun honoring. Of for being tall dark that was it. Really. In your. One time one of my sons is bringing one of my other son's. All in the police stopped him. They wanted to know what what he was doing driving around. At expensive car. In a thought that that was suspicious in knowing Jack Emma. It happen it just. It's part of our culture, and it's part of how we see things an We've got to change that. I thought the mayor of Atlanta had powerful words when she just said. You know this is. Like I can't send my son out to do a piece, so I can't send you out. I can't protect you and I. Don't know how helpless that may feel for you that. You worry about your kids and whereabouts kids and you want to protect them and you want them to. have an idea of how to conduct themselves, so they won't be in any a any danger and for black kids. That's. Very iffy situation. We're talking to Kareem. abdul-jabbar Mohammed Ali died for years ago yesterday. Member I met him. Yes I, do yeah. I was. Just walking down sunset in. Muhammad Ali was doing magic tricks for people ever chess walking by. Has Like A. To Friends of mine who stopped in Washington for about ten or fifteen minutes sedan at all, and then a couple of weeks later, I went to a party of during my freshman year at Ucla went to a party. there. I got to meet him and you. Just Click. A great. Way I. Don't know what Stranger you walk in on sunset or Ali doing magic tricks on sunset. That's out was the nineteen nineteen, sixty six for nineteen, sixty six, I remember. What don't I know about him? that. He was really funny Guy He? He was a practical joker. You like to. Of Full Pool Jokes on people in a mystified him with the some of his. Magic abilities. The tried magic tricks or for a long time because he disliked to make the go ou-. But then he can get into the ring and be so violent like he's such a play. It was such a playful man, but then you you turn it on and turn it off. We saw that with Jordan. Documentary might doesn't turn it on and off. It's always on those on your. Muhammad Ali would. He was like because. You had to love you know 'cause. It was a really congenial guy he. I wonder about his impact. Because I've maintained I think Jackie Robinson is probably the greatest athlete of all time because. Baseball Basketball Football. Track and field. He became a hall of Famer when people didn't want him to succeed went through to do that. And then there's all these place in history I don't know if you can categorize that, but trying to the impact of Ali and I said this when he died Kareem for years ago. He's leaving a legacy of athletes who are willing to step up now I think because they saw who he was, when he saw all these testimonials, these tributes to Ali, when he died that you had Lebron in Chris. Paul and Dwayne Wade and guys were willing to put themselves out there. I mean that's a powerful legacy that Ali left. Black athletes, really. For for black kids, black athletes are what's the principal role models in the black kids get a lot of positive direction from black athletes I. Know I did. We Jack, WHO's playing for the dodgers. Serious Guidry Fan. He just. Kind of charisma really has has an effect. And he never let it blow over. Though how do you think Jackie Robinson compartmentalized this with everything that he was going I mean I'm sure internally, but he sort of maintained his dignity. Hard to do at that time because people wanted to test. But he had the right disposition I. He was definitely will be pretty tough guy. Allow those guys in in the major. You were offered to meet their mother. They wanted. Will stick baseball. When's the last time you? Shot a skyhook. She's like I can't remember living. Will while I was coaching a working with Andrew Bynum I had to. Demonstrate Stove so? I got back into some kind of suit. That's longer going for where you. Do you care about any of these lists. Kareem, where ESPN had the greatest college basketball player of all Time poll and I-. I railed because you weren't the you're the greatest college basketball player of all time I was mad. I was probably matter than you would ever be I'm guessing but Jordan was the greatest college basketball player of all time. Just helped me here. If you don't care about it, then I won't care about it. I, you know it's it's not important to me because people. Would vote for Michael Jordan net. Don't have the perspective. They didn't see me play a wish they'd seen Oscar play. They really changed their mind about that. Michael wasn't anywhere near the college. Clear that Oscar was. On so? You know it's all depends on your perspective in stand that you can see where someone would say that because you know Michael Style was so charismatic, people think. That that doesn't. Style end. Effect are two different things, but we look at Michael me. Go Way won six titles. He didn't lose Bill Russell one eleven. He didn't lose like I. How do you decide? You, can't and people didn't see Bill Russell play. You know what what did he? Stifled the whole League for eleven world championships. Michael Jordan had six. On you know it's, it's. There's no comparison, but the people don't understand what what's being compared, so that's why they get all. You just missed out on Russell. League was his first year retire. But I saw you against wilt, and that was supposed to be this big showdown. All let's see how you know Luau is going to do against the Great Wilt Chamberlain. What do you remember about that? First Meeting. A first meeting I didn't do too good and everyone that did very well. By! My third year. Guys wearing. We'll tell you retire. Yeah, and that's another thing that will be like we don't. He's statistical anomaly. He's not included in the greatest player of all time. It feels like because we go well. That's wilt and you know. The NBA was different back then. What's different, but still what? What will dude? WHO's GonNa score a hundred points so average. What what do the V eight point four points? Yeah it's it's ridiculous. What would wilted and nobody that saw him? It's devote out their own. They've all passed on Wiltz as fast. So you know. I think he could have to like stop errors in then. Maybe people will get it. Corrected in how they assess the yeah and I tried. I don't WanNa. Be That guy who says get off my lawn, but it feels like I'm speaking up for guys who people missed out on because I I got to see everybody but Bill, Russell, play. And I was there in Cincinnati for Cincinnati Gardens Cincinnati royals I got to see those. Marriage when he came in when you came in. I mean run down the list of these great players I say you have. No Oscar played with the royals. They were horrible, and then he got to Milwaukee and then people go. Oh, okay, Oscar, you WanNa, title they just. Pick and choose on what is Great. Now we tend to I had somebody arguing with me the other day about Rick. Perry's greatness and I said you had to see him play. Like Rick. Barry with Golden State Warrior team that was not a good team, but it was a team and rick. Perry was awesome back then. But died. Somebody say we'll drain on. Green is better than Rick Barry and I go. Exactly. I said that hyperactive the same way Kareem. People have no. They have no idea what guys did, so it's. Just talking to people who can't relate to what happened before them. Yeah and I know there's always this competitiveness, and yours was probably hidden a little bit more, but I have to believe there's every party that says. Your is impact were better than anybody else? WHO's ever played the game? I. Think so but you. Got Time to argue. I'll continue to argue on your behalf I actually saw the first time you played Bill Walton. In a preseason game. Selecting Dayton. Okay and I remember. Because I loved bill I thought bill was as true of teen center is I'd ever seen like understanding the game, and and I was like he had his long hair, and the BANDANNA, and I remember it didn't. It didn't go. It didn't go that well for bill that. That maybe maybe it was like when you face chamberlain. Bill got roughed up a little bit there. Do you ever talk to him about Europe, your meetings, your head-to-heads. No, To bill about it because he starts crying about how. He's embarrassed instead. I wasn't trying to embarrass it. You're starting. To do what I could do. Teamwork yeah, but he has such praised for you and rightfully so but. Yeah although I think he dunked on you that one time in the playoffs, and when they when they won the title and Bill Bill Likes to bring that up. Well let's one for bill and. I had a few, so how you feeling by the way with the crown. Thank you. Involved in a new technology now negli- meter. Said messes people. Do WOAH celebrations for. It's working pretty good. If you WANNA know anything about it. Go to GRAHAM DOT COM. And see what. What's keeping me up events in the? Anthony AJ spelled. C. O. N. O. M., Y.. No I C O N. Oh, Gre am I kind of rip? Oh so I got a iconic dot com as well. I kinda got. COMCAST'S OKAY WANNA. Make sure I. got that right? Or messages. You want me to do a message for you celebration. Whether it's. Days graduations. I can do all the way. Are there any there's no hardware in the background there? If I walk into the house, do I know what you do for a living or living no. No hardware. Jerseys! This I have okay, might my Where have all my baseball stuff through? All the stuff that's important to me like. Willie. Mae signed a uniform. You probably have more baseball MEMORABILIA THAN BASKETBALL MEMORABILIA ZIK credit. Your. What's your prized possession aside from the Willie mays autograph. Price was action is a nineteen fifty five. World Series Baseball. That what the has fallen signatures on? It has a couple of phony signatures us through the club attendant. Of you know. Signed. Signatures of the guys wouldn't sign the base walls the. Selma. It's great to see you and we appreciate your time as always and. Keep writing. We appreciate it Kareem. Like very much, talking to you have a great day and stay healthy. Thank you. That's a Kareem abdul-jabbar. We'll take a break back after this on the Dan, Patrick Show thanks for listening to the Dan Patrick Show podcast. 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Don't like Murray makes fun of people. You made fun of Joe. Freight like all of these different things about Ali that people didn't like. And then you meet him, and he had this ability to just make you laugh. and. He was a little kid and his wife. Lonnie and I had the opportunity of being around him. Before he lost the ability to speak, and then a few times after we were at the SP's I, said a Mike Tyson boxing match and he. That presence is different than any other presence of any other person I've ever been around. And I've been around quite a few people famous people. Nothing compared to Ali nothing, but I wonder. Who is this singular voice now? Through all of this. And I and I'm talking about representing the African American community. Who is that singular voice? because. We've had those voices before. But. It doesn't feel like you have that singular unifying voice, or when that person comes to town, things change people listen. I don't know if it's Barack. Obama No. He had a statement a couple of days ago, but I. Don't know if he's going to be out in front of. This wants to get involved in this. But I don't know who that singular voice is, but it felt like feels like down through history. We've had. At least one of those voices I also mentioned this earlier in the show. The smaller market teams are urging the NBA to include the entire league in the restart Paulie. Would you check the teams? Let's say or mclovin the twenty two from twenty two down to thirty. How. Many of those are small market teams because the NBA is moving towards a plan of inviting twenty two teams to restart the season. Now. This is what I'm told. The smaller market teams. They are facing inequities. Nine months without basketball. You'd go from March to. December. And what that impact would have on sponsorship selling tickets. Developing players. Could be a really. Damaging. Point of the year in an end of the season for some of these franchises, but the New York Knicks are not a small market team. How many of these would you designate small markets here that we're talking about again? These teams that didn't make the playoffs, but are not as renowned playoff eligible. You would consider small-market teams. I would think Portland New Orleans Sacramento. San Antonio is a huge market, but but Portland and Sacramento Portland in New Orleans are gonNA. Make the playoffs under the new format. I'm talking about from twenty three on down at twenty three. GOLDEN STATE MINNESOTA PHOENIX CLEVELAND ATLANTA DETROIT. New York Chicago. And Charlotte okay those aren't. That doesn't make sense then. Yeah I, mean we're talking. Do the knicks naked? No, unlikely! Okay, When I think small market I, think a memphis. The Memphis is in the playoffs. New, Orleans is going to get into plows. Chicago's not small-market new. York's not small-market Detroit's not small-market. Golden, State's not small market like I'm confused with unless they believe everything besides new. York and La Golden State is small mark. I don't know. No I don't think Golden. State's small mark, right. I don't think so. Let me. See Greg in Illinois Hi. Greg. What do you have for me today? Hey Dan grade interview with the Korean a heater real treasure. Thank you my courtroom freeze about. In the NFL and it's just do you think? Do you think an honest private moment roger? Goodell? The NFL would change how they handled that situation right now. That's it. Oh Jolt. No, I, you know. It's hard to speak for the NFL when it comes to these things. Their bottom line. It's just that that's their bottom line. It's money. And these owners didn't want to have anything or anyone who could interfere with that. Colin. Kaepernick deserve to play in the NFL now. You might say he's not a great quarterback, okay? But he got blackballed. Member? All of those excuses. Memory was on the Diet. Oh, on a new diet! He's losing weight like we had all of these different excuses as to why capper nick was not being. Allowed to play invited to play. I thought the Ravens. We're going to sign him a few years ago and I thought Seattle was going to sign him as well. I thought that that was maybe a possibility. There because it has to start with ownership has to start with that person saying I'm willing to take the heat because you will take the heat certainly in today's political climate if you bring in Colin. Kaepernick but captured is not playing football game. But for the NFL or a former NFL employees to come out and say Minnesota should hire him now. Sign him now. That's the wrong answer. Because now you're only doing it for a gimmick. It's. Not This isn't based on ability. This is based on. Hey, can you help us out with what's going on with the social climate? Hey, this'll fix everything. Hey, Cabernet in Minneapolis that work. We'll move on from George Floyd. 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"Happy Trails #41"

"Previously the Tony Kornheiser show. We played in I was This this was like mummy. Dearest level stuff on my part like put it out. How Gore like sighing when my kids would like to yeah, I'm I'm the worse I really mad, and then like a a-. My older son who's eleven didn't speak to me. for the last seven holes probe in there, yeah! This is General George Washington, and you're listening to the Tony Kornheiser Xiao all righty then. Michael Kornheiser is here socially distance at six feet across from me and my uncle Benny's table. We're in the dining room of our house on a day that in Washington DC is alleged to get up to ninety five or ninety six degrees, which we haven't seen in a long time. In fact, the last two days have been beautiful in terms of temperature and lack of humidity, but I guess we have gone from that to summer will do. We're going to have three guest today. Because a lot of stuff has happened, and it's just it's better to do it that way in next week. Michael and I will do an actual. And I will have saved up millions of things to talk about, but we want to bring on David Aldridge I. Because David is in the unique position of having grown up. Watching Wes unseld play, and when he grew up, and became a sportswriter at the Washington Post getting to cover a team in which West unsettled was either coach or general manager, and and a fixture in Washington for those of you outside of Washington. I cannot tell you. How giant of figure, literally and figuratively wes, unseld is in this particular area. He is the most accomplished most famous person having to do with basketball here. Spending a career here, you know it's he may not be. Down the road, he may not be as accomplished as Kevin Durant. And had len bias lived? You know he might not have been as accomplished as we don't know these things, but wes unseld won a championship in got to four finals, and the team never did either of those things without wes unseld and David. You grew up in DC you went to the Matha. You had I'm assuming you had to have watched those bullets, teams and rooted for Wes unseld. Oh sure. Absolutely, you know he he was, and this was before. Joe Gibbs got to Washington. So you know the only athletic? Success. Washington teams had with would have been Georgia. Alex teams, you know that got to one super bowl, but lost and made some play-offs in one. You know one a lot of games and certainly turned that franchise around, but. But nothing. Comparable to what West on sell Elvin Hayes and Bobby Dandridge in those great bullets teams did in the seventies. They may four finals in eight years. They finally won one in seventy eight. But certainly were one of the dominant teams in the NBA that for that decade during that decade I mean it was the the new you know. The Celtics kind of rebuilt themselves around Dave cowans and Jo Jo White and those those teams that were very very good. They won that they want to I. Remember correctly in the decade and the Knicks teams that at one in sixty nine. We're still very very good and had great battles with the bullets. Especially when the bullets were in Baltimore before they moved to Washington so throughout that decade, the bullets head competition, but they were one of the great teams in the League back then and West was the focal point as you said he was. It's not close. He was the most important player in the history of that. And certainly the most successful player in the history of that franchise as a player did not accomplish those things as a coach or a GM Some of what was probably his fault, but some of it was not so you know you didn't have that success, but but as a player was was the guy for that franchise. We should talk about them a little bit as As a player in and we'll buy made this point yesterday on PTI that if you look at his career scoring average, it's ten point eight and you think well. How good could he be well? You need to understand that. He patterned himself. He was a center in the mold of Bill Russell that defense and positioning were more important than scoring points. He had other people on that team. That could score points. There's a reason people are voted into the top fifty players of all time because they're. They're great and surpassing players and West unsettled was. You know he was a rock. I mean physically physically. The Guy was just a pizza square. He's just such a rock you and battling all the time against as you know, the laniers and the Kareem's and the Willis reads in a Dave couns all the time giving away height but not giving away girth I mean the tell people how he played God he was. Well he was as you mentioned you know. He probably you know. He was MVP of the League his rookie year, right and rookie of the year yeah. Did that was a guy. We like to call Wilt Chamberlain I know. those are the only two so he certainly could score as his. Physical body kind of broke down yet. Really bad knees the second half of his career he could not shoot and score to the level that he he did earlier in his career, but you're right. His game was not about scoring. Is Game was about? Defense rebounding setting those teeth, rattling picks for players that didn't see him, and even when they did see him come into, didn't matter because he was as you mentioned a wall, he was a square He was Westwood Fat. He wasn't fat. He was just a square. He was a big strong, incredibly strong Guy and part of what I wrote about Yesterday and today was how you know when he was growing up his father. was worked. He was an oiler. I guess if anybody remembers with oilers used to do, and worked in construction for International Harvester and he taught West and his brother how to build houses, and they built a lot of houses, and they laid a lot of brick and mortar, and they did a lot of work on their on their. How on their home terms of yard, work, farm work and throwing a lot of Hay bales around stuff like that and. It's how he got strong, and he was country strong, as we used to say and and was the strongest guy in the league. Probably, and that's what he did he laid. Would on you in back in those days you know the game was much more physical and that was his game. He used to always tell me that. He didn't win games in the fourth quarter. You want him in the first quarter. You know because he would start people in the first quarter, and by the time the fourth quarter rolled around, they were too tired of to keep up with them. and so that was his game and it was a game. In which as you mentioned he let other guys who could score score and he did the dirty work to help him win. He had a relationship the owner of the Washington NBA. Franchise now is not the owner. then. The owner then was a Poland. And the relationship that Poland had. With West unsettled is an I I David I. Don't think I'm stretching it to say that a viewed him as a son. And would never let him leave. Ever I mean. Those were not days of free agency, but if they were in west, so I wanNA leave able to say no, no, no, that's that's not going to happen. You don't see those sorts of relationships between team owners and players. Know anymore because you know, the bullets were one of apes primary businesses. It's not like it is now where you know these these hedge fund. Guys who were billionaires. You know this is just a line item in their company. You know not. They don't have that. That kind of mom and pop relationship. With, not just west, you know dozens of other employees I used to always marvel that I could come back ten years later and see most of the same people who were there ten years ago. dylan their jobs are slightly different jobs. Eight did not like to fire. People kept people around a long time, and in all honesty, probably longer than he should have for. You know considering that the team wasn't very successful for a long stretch of time Again, after West is playing, as they really kinda struggled to to be a consistent winning team but that's how it was, and you know even through. Long through at a different iterations to having that same I should say a similar relationship with a guy like Koran Butler for the end of life. Corron gets very emotional when he talks about how A. You know gave him a contract that changed his family's life. You know what I mean. And he had that kind of relationship with people, and it's just how he was as a person, and we all know Abe wasn't perfect. They did a lot of bad wrong things, too, but he but in the main, he had that kind of relationship, and it was crystallized by his relationship with West unseld to be sure. So, so it is undeniably true that since West has stopped playing, the wizards have never or the or the bullets, ballitser wizards have never gotten to the final. Their success rate is marginal They you know every once in a while. They've done a little bit, but they never had anywhere near the consistency that they had with West unsettled, and he was part of management as coach and GM. I said yesterday on PTI that it made me feel sad because I really admired him as a man and made me feel sad that they didn't have any success when he was either coach Gm. Do you have thoughts on that as to how that happened? Yeah I mean again. It was a combination of things and I was there. You know certainly will. He was a coach him. Directly, and indirectly, when he was GM, and and I like I said I think part of it. You know West that you. You have to take responsibility. The head coach of the GM you have to be responsible for the product on the floor I thought those teams played extremely hard. And they get a lot of the right things that you that you have to do to win games, and that's why they were in a lot of games, but the problem was. They just didn't have enough fallant Certainly in the eighties going into ninety S. you know they did not compete. Compare to the the Celtics teams or the Pistons. Teams of the bowl teams you know any of the really dominant teams in the East you know they. Their best players were guys like Jeff Malone Darrell Walker. And Jeff! Malone was an all star player, but he wasn't. He wasn't an elite player. You know what I mean so. And the guys that they hoped would become elite players. You know guys like John. Williams. Who got hurt and then gained a hundred pounds, and you'll get himself out of the League essentially You know they couldn't recover from those kinds of mistakes and they never were quite bad enough to. Have the most ping pong balls and have the chance to get you know a Alonzo mourning or a shack or players like that could turn things around for them, you know they always seem to wind up taking six or seven or eight in the in the first round would would they could get you know com- googly out. It was a good player, but it wasn't a great player by any stretch of the imagination. You know what I mean so those were the kind of guys that they were getting would never. pull the trigger on the kind of know real big deal that could get them a dominant young player That's that's on West. And that's what management and he became management, so it was on him, and they had the injuries of, but the bottom line is just worn talented enough to beat the the beat, the best teams in the East and and and you know become a playoff contending team I mean my best team. In five years was forty and forty two. That was watermark. Yeah, they had that the government. Government they had one brief moment where they actually were swept by the Chicago Bulls and Michael Jordan in the playoffs, but they played very well, and they had Yogi murison very difficult to deal with the other team standpoint. They had Chris Webber they had you on Howard. They had rod strickland I'm probably leaving somebody out, but there was reason for optimism, and it was completely tube D- Juwan Howard decided he wanted to go to Miami. Deep meaning. They forced them into stay. They gave a Mulligan on that and Weber. I'm no fan I. This is you know I'm just not a fan and it didn't. It didn't work out. You know what didn't and that was the one shining moment. Wouldn't you say well Sir you know that team was very certainly had a lot of potential. looked like it was going to be. You know a very very good team for a Lotta years and again. That's where everybody's gotTa. Take some of the blame on that. You know we're. We're webber and Howard immature back. Then sure they were they made mistakes off the court that did not help them but he was also reactionary. Yes, instead of holding onto to very. Players he's rated Chris Webber in ridiculously bad trade traded young for old and big for small twice. Yeah, and it was just stupid, and instead of you know you know. Whatever you think of David. faulk I've always said they've talked knows what the number is and when he tells you. This is what it's GonNa cost you. You should pay them and not drag it out and he could they could assign. Juwan Howard for four years and twenty four million dollars, and they didn't do that and they let him become a free agent, and he went out and got one hundred five million dollars for Miami so instead of doing what you should have done, which is Faye the money. You didn't do that. You lost you want Howard to. On aid and that's on. You know John Nash GM at the time. not done so those teams it was again combination of immature players and bad management decisions that team up. So you have having grown up here I've been here a long time now over forty years, but you grew up here your whole life. I'm going to assume that. Well I'll wes unseld of the higher stature than say Gibbs and Jergen sin and Riggins, because those guys one super bowls, or or You know. What is the order in your mind in Washington? Sports Pantheon well the only reason. I don't have west on Mount Rushmore in terms of DC sports. Is because you know. The the first big chunk of his career was in Baltimore. In Baltimore from his rookie season through nineteen, seventy, two seventy, three you know, and that's when he was MVP and was rookie of the year, and he was at his hike, physically and on those great teams with. And you know Gus Johnson and Jack Marin and all those teams that seem to got to the finals and seventy one so there's a big chunk of his career where he wasn't here. That's the only reason I don't have that. Rushmore so for that reason. I would say gibbs because gibbs did his work here in DC, and he did it did all of his work in DC. Including the you know three Super Bowl titles in ten years with three different quarterbacks, and all that we all know but certainly as a player you know, West is is. Again the most consequential player in history of that franchise you could certainly put him there with Ovechkin certainly has to be there I would make the case that Walter. Johnson has to be there because his numbers are cartoon usually dominant. Player I would put Josh Gibson there from the homestead grays, and no other people with might have other players. You might make a case for Darryl Green for example, and he can make a case for someone like that certainly but yeah, I mean West is there. He's right there in terms of the biggest. Players, and and as a person I would say Tony. Just you know certainly one of the great people that this that this city has ever had as a representative and as an athlete, and as a person in terms of his honesty and integrity, and all of those things that we say are important. Totally true, thank you, David Talk to you soon, my pleasure Tony Thank. You David Aldridge, boys and girls. You can read his work in the athletic. We'll take a break Torie. Clarke will be with US right nine Tori Clarke next. Yes. That's right Tori. Are you listening? Did I wake you. Know. Return I'm Tony Kornheiser. Listening to the Tony Kornheiser show. 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Do see a A decal on a car that says surf naked so I guess clothing optional has something to do with that. They play in Torie Clarke and as we always ask Tori wear argue. In the beautiful Commonwealth of Virginia. Okay! And how? How's everything out there in your in in Rieger land as we like to call it? Rieger Land Yeah when you Rieger God bless. Quickly reached the place. That Patrick from the little in of Washington took a few years to reach which is about a third of the people in Rapahannock County Lover. About a third of them hater and and yeah. Yeah but yeah, so out there and our little quarantine family is doing well. It's Kinda be. It's become the new normal everything that's happened the last few days obviously is. Think holy crap. What's going on? But in terms of working and getting along and Bryan I joined the time with our kids. It's going pretty well, so you wouldn't. You wouldn't think that you'd WANNA pandemic to force you into this circumstance, but now that you're forced into it. It's good. For US good all right? Something's not so much, but for very good. So I wanted to talk to you about something that I have been doing it's this is so self-indulgent I think people will be happy about that. You pay until fortunate. No I'm not doing anything like that. Oh God! No, no, no, no, no, I'm not learning how to play the guitar either no I'm not. No I'm drinking. I'm drinking a lot because I don't go anywhere. Which is fine? Do you know the name of a chef Roberto donut that yes. Yes. So he is a big time chef. At one point. He was a James Beard Award winner in the Middle Atlantic region. This is an if you're involved in cooking. This is an enormous honour. Right I mean we all agree about that? So he had a bunch of restaurants. Some did well was called. Galileo did very very well for a while. Anyway, my friend Daryll, Clark came to me. a couple of weeks ago. And we were just talking about food, and he said by the way Would you be interested at all in in signing up for food from Roberto Donor? I said, what do you mean and he said he cooks listen to this tour. He cooks five meals a week. There are no substitutions. He cooks what he cooks. Each meal is a self contained meal. These are usually meals for four, and each comes with a soup with a soup, and the soup is for five or six I mean there's a lot of soup. I have been doing this for a couple of weeks. Now intend to do it for a little while longer at least and giving Michael Some of the soups and some of the dishes right? Yes, and you've enjoyed these things soups fantastic. Yeah, and so I'm going over there on once a week and I'm picking up this food. And I'm you know it's a delight for me and I find out that this is now how Roberto Dona. is making a living. And so. Daryll Clark said you know he needs to have people do this. He needs to have people. Sign up so what I'm saying on the air with Tori. Not and I'm not looking for. You couldn't do it obviously, because you're out in in Virginia. But if there are people who, seriously from this area from the Washington DC area story could do it in drive in for the. Wanted to get involved with this. If you wanted to get involved with this, you should email us I mean seriously and Nigel will look at your emails and I mean, but it's you know I feel like. I've I feel. So. Happy to do this. You know I mean you. You have to cook the meals. You have to warm them. You have to follow instruct. Follow Instructions which you get, put the food's great, and it's what what I'm getting at. Is it stuff and this is sort of what I'm getting to where you are now? It's stuff that I would not normally eat I don't like eggplants. I hate eggplant. I Hate Pumpkin. He made a pumpkin soup. That was great. He made an eggplant soup. Though you know what I'm saying, I'm doing things that I never would do under these conditions and I'm enjoying it. I think that's very true for a lot of people and we started in every conversation saying. Look this pandemic is not good obviously, and there are a lot of people. Suffering tremendously, however were doing things that we wouldn't have done otherwise what aspect of it so gives you the joy is it the food itself is that you're getting it from the famous chef? What is it that you enjoy about it? I enjoy all of it. I I think what I enjoy most is. It's really good. Okay. It's really good and again it's I never would have. Tasted this I look you know me pretty well. I had seen Wa and Kale last night I. would normally but I looked down on everybody. Who would eat that? What you would consider pretentious chef nosing no more rustic family style. Yes, and actually what I think so I think you really liked. Is You like the bounty of a new like handing it out? You like sharing it, so you make sure you check with Liz? What do you like on this menu? I think that's what's great and you look at you. Look at this model because he also has a restaurant. That's closer to me down by called. And and you just wonder. What are some of these neighborhood restaurants? GonNa look like in this model could be something that we see more of where you start. That is have these subscription lists you see this with with farms who are making deliveries to say, you can buy into this because there is. A substantial cost, but it's keeping you out of the store and it's and it's putting food on. This is sort of the same. You know as giant peapod. Some. It is food. You don't have to go, get it. It's not the same as giant peapod because this is really really great, and it's a little bit different, but. I'm mean you know what I mean Tory. It's really cool. To Michael's point, these restaurants are going to have to come up with new models, because if when they get to open up again there at twenty five percent or even fifty percents of their previous capacity restaurants operate I last time I read something. They operated on a three to four percent profit margin before this, so they're not gonNA survive just on the people coming into the restaurants, or they're going to have to create more opportunities like this, but the reason i. ask you what you enjoyed is about a week ago. Fan Daughter and I were driving back from the going out provisioning hunting and gathering food for the family. And near Spiritual Ville, there's a little place called Hopkins Ordinary, which is a BNB kind of place, and they had opened up their back area than Nice Garden area. There's five or six picnic tables. They have a little brewery there as well and you could go, and it was very carefully quarantine Santosh. You could sit at your table and have a beer and we drove by, and we saw a few people there. We got very excited at seeing other people, and we agreed that we were going to go in there and get a beer, not telling anybody else in the family that we stop. And we sat there under a tree and had a beer, and I just had so much fun just looking around and seeing other people, and they were fifteen feet away, and you kinda wave and lift your glass, and we got so much joy out of just seeing other people, because it's pretty much the seven or eight of us for now. I i. mean my sense is. What did I really like to do in my life? One of the things I really liked to do was go out to eat at a restaurant. That's going to be the last thing I do I'm sorry. I don't WanNa be I don't want to sit down and be served with someone by someone wearing a mask and gloves I'd rather I'm now. You know I'm not cooking this food myself. Caroline I are heating this food ourselves with with very specific instructions and I. Feel like I did about blue apron that I really sort of enjoy it I mean I have a part in it, and then I get to have it and I. Don't I don't want to go to a restaurant and a lot of people what I WANNA do is be able to go back to the Jim at Columbia and work with Helen. That's coming around either. I don't know that is. Don't you? Could Cause I know you're such a big Zumur you could restaurants are doing zoom dinner party, so you say five or six of your friends all decide Thursday night. We're going to have zoom dinner. Party and the restaurant sends Nick prepackaged pre-prepared food to each of the homes, and then you prepare it. Together via zoom does nothing could be more attractive than watching people show food interfaces. On Zoom. Zoom is creepy. I'm sorry it's creepy from me I don't i. don't like, but but what you're getting to is is. Restaurants are going to have to change. They're going to have to mutate into something different. They are a lot of things are. It's almost more. It's getting more into not more, but as much about entertainment and providing people with these opportunities, then being a restaurant as we've always thought of them as restaurant because they can't come back and think they've survived the way they did before the pandemic. Can I ask you a political question based on everything you did for your life's work for a while working in the Republican Party of course, are the locust coming next to our political world? Yes. It feels like we're fraying it it. It feels bad. Maybe that's just a function of my age. What happened to people who stood up on principle in the Republican Party? What happened to them John McCain was probably the last, and he's dead. Last time I checked run No, they've been gone for a long time. They've been gone for a long time there. You know fifteen twenty years ago. I sound like an old person and I say this, but I think a lot of people. Up there. Today would agree fifteen twenty years ago. You'd say okay. Who are the profiles in courage and people with five six seven eight nine ten names right? You cannot do that now. You can't do it now. You just can't. and especially with everything going on in the last week. After, George Floyd I. This is different. I realized. We've seen the movie before. David Aldridge and Mark Stern and I talked about the the night. We've seen this movie before talking specifically about police killing a black man, and we've seen the protests and seen the outrageous. Excuse me. We've seen that we have to change. And it's reached a level and adept a diversity I. Use that word specifically of outrage that we haven't seen before. And so sad as it is, there is a part of me. 'cause I'm always the eternal optimist. There's a part of me that says maybe this time will be different, and maybe this time people really will take action and the action to your original question. That I. Think can be most practical and most meaningful. Most helpful in the next few months is getting off. You're happy. You know what's in voting this fall. That can make a difference that can make a real difference. And, so I hope something positive comes of this, but I really really. I fear what might happen after the elections this fall if a certain person is reelected I think we're then I. think it's a serious world of hurt. Because not only will you not have profiles of courage wanting to seek public office? You're not gonNA anybody. Who wants to seek office? Other than people have nothing better to do, so I worry I'm a I'm hopeful, but I worry. That's fair to be hopeful and worry at the same time. That's where every day we do. PT Wilbon an IRA in that position. You hope things start back up. But you just worry about. What's really going to happen I? Thank you so much for being on. It's always a treat for me. Voices Michael Your phone call. Return my text. Love, you guys by Tori Clarke Boys and girls. We will come back with Tim Kirk Kurkin who will explain what's happening in baseball at mutates every single day as another new plan is leaked I'm Tony Kornheiser. You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser show. Do you guys know a thing about June gloom. Well, if you don't, you're gonNA feel this afternoon. When the heat and humidity finally did you see? Is this said simply because it rhymes, that's ridiculous. What could possibly be gloomy about Junie? Let's walkers birthday month. There's nothing gloomy about that. The Sun is out birds chirping. You'll probably get tan walk into your mailbox. Where if you're lucky, you'll find incredibly soft undies from me. Me UNDIES. How do we get there? Just wait and here's where they want me to motivate your audience with a bold statement. 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By Sean Paul in Omaha Used to work with a band called Eric from outer space. And is now working with the band. A new band called the Sung's S.. U. N. K. KS, not the skunks, but the Sung's and that song is entitled Dear. Judy are we playing the song and I just don't hear it. There is okay. So always nice to hear the music. It's always nice didn't hear that no I was talking over it. I guess and was muted in my ear. Tonight is I've got that. We're tinnitus whatever but it comes and goes as we know. And I'm not worried about it. Just Watch your sodium. Yeah, so if if you want to send us your original music, how do you do it? Michael Music by emailing it to Jingles at Tony showed dot com, and a reminder at the end of the podcast, or you can just stop with us right now and go straight to the end, and you can hear the songs in their entirety Tim. Kirk joins US now. It's a pleasure for me to have tim and to ask him a I should I should say Tracy Roberts. And I, R- dear. Friends and Tim and Tracy Roberts. Our dear friends I'm trying to coordinate a dinner situation where we can use this great food from Roberto Dona, so we have to do that but that's my plug to bring tim over for dinner every single day. A new baseball plan is leaked to somebody and so when you talk about it the first day you rest assured that the second day there's a new plan. Today is a Wednesday. We talked about a plan yesterday. Is that plan still out there or is there already a new plan? Well Tony I don't often do this, but I need to talk about West on sell if I Have Not Diane David Honor We. Aldridge, is, do you yesterday? You guys were great? Okay, but that was my wheelhouse growing up, I went to a basketball camp. Came to the camp. He threw a ball off. The backboard caught it in midair, and before he hit the ground, he threw a two handed. Pass over his head. That hit the backboard on the other end of the court he's. out the greatest outlet passer ever one of the most underrated players ever and Kevin Locker who was a guard on that team was once asked when he stops running on the fast break. Knowing West can't get it to him. And he said when I reach the other end line. Because any other moment, the ball might appear like a howitzer. That's how great that outlet pass was and to be. Be as dominant as he was at six seven, and a half the greatest basketball player ever to play in Washington DC I just had to say that I'm sorry I rarely do these things. No, you know. There was a statistic that we were told yesterday and I don't know that. We got it into the show that he has more rebounds than anyone in basketball history under six eight. Yes, he was, and he played at a time. You pointed this out beautifully yesterday, guarding huge man, and because she was so unbelievably strong and had the biggest, but you've ever seen at knew how to use that big button. Those giant legs of that incredible strength I, just hope everyone understands who we lost this week. Because he was that great, so let me let's go back. How old were you at this camp? While I was. About twelve years old and I'm just gonNA. Guess that at this camp. You were not then six feet tall, right? Yes well at that time I was about four feet tall, but the point is as a teenager. That's was my wheelhouse for really watching basketball when the bullets were really good, and he was in the middle of it, and he came to the camp and showed everyone how to make an outlet pass a billion other things, and it was just breathtaking to watch, so you must have at that point in time, and we all have a memory like this. Wesley, on sell must have been the largest uman being you had ever been in contact with. Of course and again seven and a half, and whatever two hundred closer to three hundred was just so big, and so wide, and understood what leverage was all about which is so important to rebounding especially in the NBA, and he understood all of that he set the meanest hardest screens of all time. He was such a great defensive player to be able to guard Kareem Wilt Chamberlain and these guys who were five six inches taller than him, and he was able to do it because of his knowledge and understanding of what leverage meant in the lane. He's a great great great great player that thank you for that reminiscence can I get back to sorry the baseball. No, the baseball plan. Is it still are we still what seemed to me was we were at the stage of finding a number of games that the rest of it they it seemed like they could make a little progress on the rest of it or my wrong, yeah. No you're right and this one this latest idea from the owners. Hasn't been soundly rejected yet. which is a good sign, 'cause? It's only been a couple of days, but it hasn't been rejected yet. And this is what I think and I'm guessing Tony after people. I'm talking to that. We're going to play a sixty game season. Which I said a couple of weeks ago, when a when a source told me look the owners, WanNa play sixty games. That's the best they're going. Going to be able to get. They're going to get an extended postseason. That's where they make all their money and with only sixty games. They don't have to pay the players as much. This is how it's going to work. That was two weeks ago. I was told that and it looks like that's where we're headed at this point now. Of course, the Union has to agree with this and everything has to. Go along smoothly from here which never happens, but this has given me at least a little bit of hope that we might have season truncated and all it's interesting that that the owners went back to the deal they signed in March, which was a prorated salary for every game that is played which the Union really wanted, but on the other end. What they're saying is yeah, but we're not gonNA. Play that many games, so you're not going to get that much money. You'RE GONNA get half, but. But you're not going to get that. Much I figured it would be bargained up to about well I if you play. If you play in your League League still exists. You have fourteen other teams in your league. If you play them all five times, that's seventy games right that seventy right there, and if you'd say, give one more game to each team in your division that seventy four. I thought it would. It would fall out around seventy to seventy five, but you're. You're right there at sixty. Yeah and again Tony he could be seventy five. It could be fifty five. It could be sixty. It's just not going to be one hundred hundred fourteen. At this point I don't think it's going to be eighty two either, but I know the owners and Major League Baseball essentially saying look, we agree to something in March that we're GONNA pay you for every game that we play and it's going to be pro rated, and we're not gonna cut you anymore than that unless they're no fans in the stands now baseball is saying we are going to pay you for every game that you pull and there will be no second pay. Cut here, but we. We will control the number of games that we will play, and that's where the middle ground is going to have to be found so the other day when Gary Bettman announced that they were going straight to the playoffs and are twenty two teams in this that and the other thing Gary Bettman made a point I didn't even know Donald. Fear was still alive and doing this, but he made a point of thanking the NHL Players Association and the NHL Players and it seemed to me actually sincere. I don't see that in in baseball it. Doesn't you know what I mean? There seems to be actual hardcore animosity there. And there there has been forever. Tony I mean I've told you covered the eighty one strike Marvin. Miller screamed at me a couple times during that because I didn't know what I was doing. Greedy, screen screen of wants the the ranked court was unbelievably high back then, and it wasn't a whole lot better ninety four when we lost the world series. It's better today. Believe me, but it's still not good, and it's never going to be good. Under the current situation, and that's part of the problem is these two sides need to be incomplete collaboration to save the season? They need to be best friends to save this and they're not. They're not even close, but it's not as bad as it was in nineteen eighty one, so you know everybody talks to everybody. I talked to. You talked to Richard Justice. Somebody else talked to Bob. Nightingale. Somebody talks to Jeff Passan something talks Kenny Rosenthal and everybody says the same thing that you know it's not a good working situation, and has got to be a lot of compromise and I go well. Are you optimistic or pessimistic, and they always say we're optimistic. You you right, you're optimistic. Youth think there's going to be a season. I do Tony with. Great. And again this is all dependent after they get the finances straight. If they get the finance straight that the country and local municipalities and the federal government and everyone else is going to allow this to happen if there's any sort of outbreak again, and there's not going to be a season, but I am mildly optimistic now that we're going to play because rob. Manfred was there when there was the world series was cancelled in Nineteen ninety-four. He's one of the few guys totally involved in this who understands the damage and the danger of having a work stoppage, and a season wiped out. Most of our players have no. No connection to this? They haven't been a part. Thank goodness of a work stoppage. They don't know what a strike is about. They have nothing to lean on when it comes to that. Whereas in ninety four, a Lotta guys remembered eighty one how bad that was, and in two thousand into they remember nine, hundred, ninety four. How bad that was I think rob Manfred saying we're not GonNa let this happen. The country needs us. We're GONNA find a way to do this and I'm mildly optimistic that we are going to find a way. I'll get you out of here on this, and let's just say it's sixty. And let's just say as we probably believe in our hearts, not just a second wave of the virus, but what is going on now in terms of protests, people will get it. Carry it back to where they're from. And I think we're GonNa see you'd spikes. In the next two to three weeks from the opening up of of businesses, and from the gathering together of so many people. Let's say they try to start. What if they have to shut it down? One of the players say you know what it's too risky, and because it would be it. We really risky. I think if they shut it down. Let's say we're just guessing Tony. Let's say they start August first. And then there breakouts, outbreaks, and on August the eighteenth they say are. We gotta shut down for two more weeks. Then you shut down the season. And you just say sorry. This didn't work. Adam. Wainwright is really smart Guy Pitcher for the cardinals said if we have to shut it down, we need to shut down the season. That's why it's absolutely critical that we know where we are where we get started, so we don't have to shut it down because baseball is not a sport that you can just shut down and start back up two weeks later. It doesn't work that way so you, so you mentioned August. Is that what you're thinking as a start date August? Yeah. I think they're gonNA. Start out again, Tony I'm guessing if you're going to six games, you start on August. I play thirty games in August. Thirty and September extended play offs in October and done October thirty first. That's what I think is going to happen because they don't WanNa play past October, because they're fearful that the spike is going to return in November and December and they don't want to be playing when it gets potentially extra dangerous. Thank you, Tim, thank you, thank you. Thank you and we're going to have dinner we're going to have. Okay. Tony Thank you. Tim Coaching Boys and girls. We'll take a break. When we come back. We'll have email and a new jingle. That looks great to me. I'm Tony Kornheiser. You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser show. You and he was a cab. Tenders Literacy at five got this street each. 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Getting Together

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Tony you know I was reading some of the obits nasty sort of preparing one myself last night when I was told it. was was probably not going to make it very long, and you look at something like ten point eight points a game. People Follow Basketball now look at that and say well. How could that be important? How could he be in the hall of fame? He was everything he was. He was like the strong his kite. As we know time and say quick story, personal story the Gray David Duprey. Who has you know for? The Washington Post covered those bullets teams when they went to the finals, and they went a couple of times and failed, and they won. They won a championship. I was going to practice to substitute for David Dupree is a young sports writer for the Washington Post and to listen to me. You don't just go to west. Hills, practice, unscrew around and star reading the paper or you don't do that. He will quiz you. He will ask you what play. They're running and you better know so you better pay attention this time. When not only could you attend practice? You better, pay attention and WES UNSELD. Inclusive, I mean I learned more about basketball. Those days covering the bullets in the Wizards Win West was the coach and the g. m. after he ended his playing days when I was a rookie reporter and I know you feel the same way. He was strong and honest and sincere and sharing and giving he. I don't know a better man than West on sale, not not in my life do better man out of school I will suspect you feel the same way. I will speak to this issue because I covered his teams as a columnist, and as a columnist I wrote critical sarcastic, nasty pieces, and what's unsettled, always talk to me, always answered my questions I grew so fond of him as a man and felt badly that as the coach general manager, he never got that team to the levels. The team was at when he was the player you talked about. About ten point eight points again, he was a center in the style of Bill Russell Defense matters more than offense to us on cell. He was a tremendous rebounded the outlet. Pass the classic. Outlet Pass we go up with two hands. You turn in mid air. You put the ball onto hands behind your head, and you throw it down the floor. That's West unseld. The Guy who does the. The best in the NBA right now is Kevin Love. This is interesting about Kevin Love. Kevin Love's middle name is Wesley and he was named for West unsettled by his father Stan. Love who played on the bullets with West, some selden thought that much of them they got one championship. It's west on cells. They went to the final four times since he retired. They haven't gone to the finals. Finals. He his relationship with the owner. For so many years a Poland was like a son, and I need to repeat that and you know this, my like a son, a poll of wooden let west goal. What job do you want? You can't go? You've got to be here with me. And he is by far the greatest figure in Washington best while there's there's no one who approaches him. Too quick historical notes rookie of the year and MVP. Here's the list of people who have been rookie of the year, MVP wilt and West on sale like that list, and the other thing is Tony. He was being recruited West was. He was part of history when he could have been a different part of history in at the University of Kentucky. Players then Yeah Adolph, rupp went to wes, unseld home and attempted to recruit all sorts of other issues I. Know West didn't want to be a part of talked about it like you had to find another black player because he had to have a roommate in college, there was all sorts of stuff in western. I'm fine to the University of Louisville where he went and was great. And all you people, all you kids out there who don't want to include wes unseld your top whatever Google has pedia pay look West until read about the man and the player he was. Just I'll just say one other thing that every night. When he went out there and he was six seven, he wasn't bigger than that. He was wide, but he was only six seven. He had to battle against Willis Reed and Kareem abdul-jabbar. Wilt Chamberlain in an era where the NBA was dominated by seniors. He always held his own always and get Bob. Lanier Dave Collins I mean it was giants beating each other up, Westwood, the shortest guy by far, but he was so. Strong and so tough. People think they're strong and tough now. No, not really. Tony we've got. We moved from the great to the absurd strangest controversy over the George. George fluid tragedy involving The New York, Knicks. Jim Dolan is being harshly criticized for sending an email to its employees, essentially explaining why the Knicks would not be issuing any statement regarding the tragedy in Minnesota and its aftermath Tony, you've seen and heard this criticism now. You've known him Dole. You know the Knicks. What do you make of all of this? Okay so as I tell you all the time. The Knicks are a disaster as an organization. They have a terrible won loss record. They have terrible public relations. They step on themselves all the time. Would it be so hard? To just say this something that took ten seconds to write and let me get it. We are shocked and saddened and appalled by what happened to George Floyd and what it says about our culture, while we think that we treat our employees fairly and equally, we will redouble our efforts to provide equal opportunity and a welcoming environment to all who went to our doors, Mike. Like you can't do that. What what is what? What position are you standing on that? You don't want to release I don't understand it. I understand the position is he understands the position, the down three with Donald Trump, and therefore he might not want this contributed to his political efforts I. I don't get a tony his so crazy about this. There's not another owner in the NBA that is hired more, black or female executives in tow. Tow You right then? Yes, stolen, yes, and yet, Tony. He's put a muzzle on his own people inside the garden. Apparently and you know there are people inside who want to have a state who want to say something who want to speak to this yet he does. It's so contradictory. It's so confusing you always tell me he's the worst owner in sports at. Go Tony don't be so harsh. Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah this is damning. I think that everybody is super sensitive about what is going on now and sort of unease. And you look into your heart and you just say this is wrong. We can't have this. We have to reexamine our positions. We have to make sure there is justice for all not just justice for some and to go out of your way to not take a public position. It brings everything down on you. I don't know Mike At. The Knicks do. And Express the Thomas going to mention a couple of things. Tony Floyd Mayweather who I? Rip Pretty harshly for some of the things I think he does that are just over the top. He says and there's confirmation paying for Floyd's funeral. Mark Cuban to pick another owner in the NBA Mark Cuban's come out and says wait a minute. We've got to deal with people equally and equally does not mean the same and mark. Cuban has outlined a lot of things that he is going to change about his own outlook. Here's another owner again waiting in. Understand? Each person has his own comfort level Tom Herman, the University of Texas men's football coach, talking about the treatment of black players on off the floor. People understanding that even if they're not particularly comfortable, they're going to have to talk about this publicly to their own constituencies, whoever they are and here's a Guy Jim Dolan. Who's been an owner for a long time? He's a public victories in a band, says all these things and he can't even. By the way the San Antonio is I haven't issued a statement that the the NBA team but Gregg Popovich. My God he weighs in, he weighs in like. Else completely without fear, and if Dolan went the other, we can do whatever you want, but Tony the silences just. There's A. There's a phrase that we've been using over and over again. And it is tone deaf, and that is what this is. It's totally toned up. Let us stay with basketball, but move on to something else. The NBA is reportedly working on a plan to resume the season and begin their playoffs. The plan calls for eight regular season games as a sort of a up to the playoffs, and then some play in games to set the field to me. The big news is that twenty two teams that came up with twenty two or going to be involved. What do you at twenty two? I don't like it. I mean that's just personal and I totally understand I'm not the one paying the freight so there. There are owners in their. Contractual obligations and understand there are people who are looking to work and be paid at this time in this world and I don't want to step on toes or offend anybody, but if you're asking me as a Connoisseur, of basketball. Twenty two teams I mean I know it gets Zaylon in people. WanNa see Zairian. Gets Phoenix Suns team in weirdly enough that people think team that will have charismatic characters very shortly here. They moved to the forefront from the back burner the front burner. The Wizards The Washington Wizards Bradley beal okay. People want to see a lot of things, but twenty two teams also brings in a couple of hundred extra people into this bubble that you were trying to keep safe and that. By definition incurs extra risk so Tony I don't know I I know the Bronwyn plans for games, but I don't think Lebron by himself is driving that bus I think there must be other people on it, but it seems to me. That should just start with the playoffs. Twenty two makes no sense at all. Especially since you don't even know, is that eleven from the East and eleven from the West because apparently the reporting is that the only extra team in East is Washington, giving them nine, and then here's five extra teams from the West giving them fourteen, and then you wonder, are you GonNa do crossovers in the first round. Is it going to be the the normal traditional conference things you can attack the NHL for twenty four teams, but they're going straight to the playoffs. They're they're not doing this. There are no playing games or anything like that, and to your point to your point and I know that you often talk about owners and other leagues being arrogant. It strikes me. That if you are concerned with health and safety, why are you adding more people? Why are you adding more games? Why are you adding to this bubble? Do not think that the corona virus has a better chance of affecting your playoffs. You widen it out, Mike I. You know you and I sixteen. Let's go tip it off, so I don't get Tony I. don't even allow for a plan a brief quick play in, and then you go to the very I'm okay with east versus West I'm okay with one through sixteen any of that let's get. Let's let's let's cut to the chase, but I'm sure we'll have an explanation. We hear about Tony You know you up. But I was a young pup. Twenty one years old. Come into, sit, master, believe it or not, it was you. My Mentor. What did you always say? Stolen from Bob Woodward at deep throat? Follow what? Follow the money or is donal Myer said the answer to all of your questions is money, so that's what it's going to be right. Y-. Baseball Tony. Let's move to that quickly. Baseball owners are floating the idea. That's a phrase we use to of a short fifty to sixty games season with the players receiving their full pro-rated salaries for those fifty to sixty games. This comes after the players made a formal proposal to the owners of a longer season, one hundred fourteen gangs turn. What do you think of the idea of fifty to sixty games for your next baseball season? I don't think it's going to be fifty. It's not going to be one hundred fourteen. But it's not going to be fifty fifty thousand feel like a baseball season. Baseball season is longer than that the important thing as I read this, the important thing is that the owners have said okay. We'll give you what we agreed to three or four months ago. We'll give you prorated salaries now. They want to keep the games down so it doesn't cost more money and the players want. Expand the Games so that they get more money. This strikes me as being on the glide path to a compromise. This actually does now again here. My questions. Does this mean it's American? League and National League and it's not geographic. You know at the same questions I have with the. The NBA like what is it exactly? Because Mike Baseball leaks another plan every single day every day, but I think this gets them closer, don't you? I think he had to them closer and so what they'll split the different planes eighty. When we're talking about eighty at the very beginning, but you're GONNA. have to have the compromise began to be really reached is whether it's fully pro-rated or not I mean we're going to get back to that. I don't think that just a meeting of the minds of the number of games or Fito. Finding some spot in the middle is going to get them back on the field, but Tony Fifty to sixty then what they gonNA say. Thirty teams will be in the playoffs starting Labor, day weekend fifty sixty. Even get you to September. So what are we talking about here? Are we talking about American? League National League? I'm okay if they do away with that for one a one time, only thing. We're talking about. I mean we're talking about seventy five or eighty gangs tone. I don't see how people the consumers can't be satisfied with that. I think they would be but again, and we just talked about the NBA trying to restart, and now we a baseball, trying to start, and the central issue is money it. The central issue to everything now is money. This is not new as we've said about a variety of things across a variety of days. GEICO knows there are many reasons why ride from the Camaraderie of the other bikers band of brothers. Always there for you rain or shine to the amazing savings you get with Geico on your motorcycle, insurance and accessories coverage all year round, but for. It was one reason in particular. It was my helmet hair born with helmet hair I've tried to cut it a bunch of times even buzzing it, but it immediately just goes back down here. GEICO motorcycle fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percents or more. You, know the drill glasses yellow legal pad, Yellow Legal Pad, kids. We do the habitat here. Happy. Sixty Eighth Birthday Gary Bettman the Commissioner of the NHL has an actual plan to get his word up and running, albeit with the usual caveats about health and safety that man has narrowed the NHL's bubble to as yet unnamed cities, but there is a structure in place and a definite field of twenty four teams in the playoffs. That man has been NHL Commissioner, since nineteen ninety-three by fog longest tenure, the big. Big Four commissioners like Adam Silver Bettman once worked for David Stern and like rob, mannered detriments Cornell Grad he was hired. Sell the game in US markets, and he is increasingly revenue from four hundred million to three billion dollars on Seattle joins the League in two thousand and twenty. One eight new teams will of the added under Beckmann and seven be in the United States. The winter classic has been both commercial and artistic success under bettman plus we'll. His kid wants caddied for me in Dick. Shops tournament. Listen whatever chirping is directed at Gary, Bettman is a certain amount of that that goes to commissioner is no matter how successful by any reasonable measure Gary Bettman has been a to riddick steward of the NHL product. Can we agree on that? Yes undoubtedly at university. Dirk Nowitzki on this day boy, my stumbling on this day nine years ago, the Vicki capped off a furious fifteen point fourth quarter comeback in Miami to shock the heat, and even the finals one one in a series, the mavericks would win for their only NBA Championship. This was revenge for Dirk over dwayne Wade for when the heat which Shaquille O'Neal of course, beat the favored maps in the two thousand six finals. This heat team was the first with the big three of Wade. Lebron James and Chris Bosh and And they were big favorites over Dallas. Who Squad was Dirk and thirty-seven-year-old Jason Kidd? Koran Butler Tyson. Chandler. Jason Terry and Shawn Marion hardly in a league with Miami had, the heat held onto that fourth quarter lead. Maybe they do win. Not Four, not five, not six. Maybe Lebron has at least four titles by now, but let's give Vicki credit dragging his team to a championship when he had had playoff failures like losing in the first round, in his MVP season, one of the many things I admire about dirk. Hook up with somebody he'd have to leave where he was and go play with a player who to championship. He's stay here. I'll take this for a while. He was going be the Ernie banks of his sport. Buddy wasn't got to the finals as you mentioned. Once he lost terrific Miami Heat team, and he got to the finals again and he won. I Love Dirk Nowitzki I think the league misses him. More than people will say Tony He's underrated. Champion. WHO's underrated I? Love the stayed in Dallas and worked with the guys he had, and nobody calls him a big three or big anything else. Jason Kidd. Jason Terry Caramba Cutler. Tyson Chandler those guys. I Shawn Marion. Loved watching them when they were playing that sees. And a melancholy trails to Pat Dye, the former Auburn coach revive the sagging Auburn Program made it into an SEC power died yesterday at age eighty die had a ninety, nine, thirty, nine and four record in his twelve seasons at Auburn and five of his teams ended. Their seasons ranked in the top ten most important for Auburn fans die got them to where they were on equal footing with Alabama. The irony is that die got his coaching start as an assistant for bear. Bryant at Alabama dies. Most accomplished player was Bo Jackson who beat Alabama. Alabama as a freshman, and ultimately won the heisman trophy. Jackson's daughter wrote this on social media. Quote you turn to shy and angry, young boy into the intelligence, sweet and caring man I. Get to call dead. You taught so many young men at Auburn how to be a great football player, and an even better human being. We love you with all our hearts coach. A recruiting scandal caused is jobs as coach Auburn in one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety two, but the school so admired him that it named the football field itself after Pat Dye. What an ice eulogy from Bo. Daughter Tony Pad Thai talk about being Mr Sec. He played and led his team at Georgia. Playing several positions linebacker an linemen. And then he assisted for bear Bryant. And then he goes on to lead Auburn, and they won the SEC four times in those twelve years head coach. That's a wow, and I'm sure the People Auburn. Are Really sad today at losing someone who, for them was an absolute giant. Even if people nationally don't remember him quite as much.

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The NBA Returns - I Think | RIP Wes Unseld

BallCourt - The World of Basketball with Coach Drew

28:08 min | Last month

The NBA Returns - I Think | RIP Wes Unseld

"It. took. Hey welcome to another episode of Ball, court I am co drew. This is the world of basketball and stick with US right here on ball card. Hey. This is the overboard coach drew. Yes, this balk. Oh, welcome to the world of basketball and guess what I know. Everybody has been clamoring for this moment. We have been waiting for this moment and I am happy to announced. Yes, the NBA will be resume in so yes, everybody come on man. The weight has been hard. We've been waiting without basketball. We've been watching reruns of basketball, but the NBA is coming back. Yes, it will be is not gonNA bring. Everybody's just going to bring back a selective few. Yes, twenty teams! We'll be coming back some of the elite teams. You will. They will be coming back to play. An eight game shortened season before they go into their playoff season now. I know you wondering. Where is this going to be held? How is the format GONNA BE? What's it? GonNa be like when I bring everybody back well. I don't want to give away all the information right away, but let me tell you. It's going to be down in Disney yes, yes, Disney complex as we reported before they were looking into it, but it was. It has been finalized so. A lot of teams are going to be there now. Mind you not. Every team has made it I i. what I did see that they are actually going to be the eastern conference teams. But we all know that he's in conferences that we conference so just in case all of my New Yorkers who grew up with me and everything. If you're sitting there wondering right now, let me go ahead and make you feel a little bit better and bring you the news. No. The Knicks will not be there. Just WanNa. Let you know that it will not happen. But the nets may be, and then there is rumors going around that. Kevin durant might be coming back in order to go ahead and you know the play. Within this time, so that could put a very Put a different picture on the playoffs especially in the Eastern Conference. So this is something that we wanna go. Go ahead and watch for but me myself. I am super excited, because guess what being is back. Yes, boys and girls. Men and women, Ladies and gentlemen. The NBA has reserved yes. Yes, yes, now you wonder well, what does take place is going to be taking place in this summer. Yes, we're looking around July in. The End of July twentieth timeframe. I know this causes a little pause, but guess what still has some breaking news coming up for all of my basketball fans now. Before I get into that I know that this is a very happy day, and we are celebrating the return of the NBA, but there is some sad things that I wanNA talk about. First off. I want to talk about losing alleged. One of the greatest rebounders. An outlet passes ever play the game. One of the toughest players to ever play the game. Yes, the bull! West on sell. Baltimore bullet. Washington. Pretty much a staple of to Washington bullets franchise. When it became to Washington bullets at the time, he would've Baltimore Bullets. He was doing his Dang as a player. And he called. He has such a legacy within the game. At the age of seventy four we, it feels like two young I. Feel like we lost wants who early. WES UNSELD! You're definitely going to be missed and what? You've done for the game very few athletes to this day. Can still do. Where you just catch and in mid air, able to whip that head around and see exactly who's moving down courts. It didn't matter if it was an older. Oscar Robertson you gotTA. You gotTA. Have all. We. We're GONNA. Miss that we're going to miss that. Now. Some, A little bit of How should I put it? Controversy that was taking place, James Broadcaster resigned after he tweeted to demarcus cousins. A tweet responding to demarcus cousins plea especially during this time there's been a lot of protests after the death of George Floyd with demarcus cousins response to it speaking on What was taking place? kings broadcaster. Decided and this is not just a you know everyday because this is a long time, longtime broadcasts Bryant Nab granting appear. He actually decided to go ahead and resign after Tweeden to demarcus cousins. All lives matter in all caps. and for what was what's been going on on the Internet lately as well as what we've been actually seen around the demonstrations that a statement that. came off rather dismissive and. Tone deaf to the situation that was taking place. So granting the pair decided to go ahead and resign. Effective immediately need. Longtime TV broadcasts designed to. Decided to take that route now as we can clearly see especially with the way things have been going. In in the media ad as as well as. On the streets. Is. Seems that at this point in time? A lot of our athletes are going to be one to choose your whereas carefully as well update brought as a broadcasters. and. Management So. That's a little something that we just wanted to go ahead and take a look into now demarcus cousins, as we all know currently does not play for the Sacramento Kings, but was drafted by the Sacramento Kings out of Kentucky. But. We do know that right now. He's one of our row right here in la or right in La. I'm over here in Vegas, but you know by here in La on the west coast. He's one of our own. And speaking of La! I WANNA go ahead and jump into my next segment ladies I. I, will I have to give a big shout out to the sparks La, sparks is making some moves and I know you wondering what's happening with the WNBA? When is it coming back when we? Play. Let me talk about this. I write. The sparks actually acquired Christine a big way. And yes, he picked her up from the Dallas. from the Dow's wings in a trade where they were able to go ahead and give a second round draft pick, but they did go ahead and pick her up and that's GonNa. Make that team a lot tougher. The sparks seem to be loaded up and I've noticed like. We reported last week when we speak about the ACIS. re-signing Kelsey Plum Is seems that There's three teams that are really gearing up and waiting for the WNBA seized to get started those three teams the Phoenix Mercury. Of course they're loading up well. They're going into it as well as the La sparks I'm telling you who they're picking up as a matter of fact, think about this. Dispatch right now. Have, the go McKay sisters. They have is CPI three. They are now adding Christine England. They're pretty strong already not to mention the rest of their starting lineup. Now a Lotta sparks fans did find it a little bit. Disturbing Derek Fisher with mentioned into weapons that they had out candace, Parker but. I guarantee Venus and find her to be a weapon. The rest of the WNBA does now. Let's go ahead and speak about that because I know a lot of people's been wondering. When will certain things say place and one of those things that they were wondering it'll take places. When will the WNBA come back? Especially now with the NBA talks coming back in Orlando over the summer, and we all know that the summertime is the time for the WNBA. We started to wonder what's going to happen with the WNBA. They're going to be put on the backburner. Are. They going to be pushed aside. Is it just GONNA get swept under the rug. After making all these big strides, especially with the contracts and everything. Is this season just going to disappear? Well, the answer is no, and I'm happy to report this. Because actually I was a little nervous myself brought. The WNBA is right now doing the same thing that the NBA will join a couple of weeks ago, the N different locations in which to play and right now the last two options options that has come down to order saying two options that the was reporting the LAS, Vegas and Orlando. Now be for the fact that right now. Summer basketball will be taking place in. In Orlando with the NBA like I reported earlier. I think it would probably be the best thing to come out to Vegas. They have the hotels here. The have the space they will be able to go ahead and play and enjoy themselves right now. Hotels aren't being used so I think good probably be a good thing to get. them out here and not to mention the ACIS would have a great home game to play, and at least one team will at least have a home game whereas if you play in Orlando. There isn't a WNBA Orlando team, so no team has a home game you. Got A fan base here. You know, but that's just my point of view. You know what I'm GonNa. Go ahead and take a quick little break. I want you to stick with me right here on ball court. We got a wall world of basketball right here. Welcome back to the world of basketball. This role court I am coach drew, and of course we're going to be speaking of the world of basketball. I less I. This is something that I want to jump into right away because with the NBA coming back and with Wnba with talk of coming back. It leaves me to wonder whatever happened to Chinese basketball. Association. We were actually looking upon chain Basketball Association as a bottle of how things will be when it come back. Well, I am happy to report the CBA will be return in June twentieth. Yes, basketball will be back in China. June, twentieth, and it's going to be held in a similar fashion. No, not in Orlando, but it will be one disclosed city, and they will be all playing there as of June twentieth. Now this happened this come about after waiting five months after the pandemic. They've been without basketball for five months. Right now. I'm glad that he did go ahead and take the proper precautions to make sure that. Basketball will be played at the highest level, but it is something that I am happy to report that they will be coming back a lot quicker than we do. Now I want to go ahead and jump into this segment right here. This segment is a segment that is near and dear to my heart. This is dating basketball. Dating a basketball where we always talk about his name basketball, it is always from a day. A basketball that either has changed something in basketball for. A great amount of people or myself or something a great memory for myself. This one that I'm going to do for this team. Basketball is about the late Ray. Kobe Bryan. All right this is one of the most iconic moments in basketball of all time. It happened on June fourth two thousand. Yes. I know what you're thinking. Yes, that exact moment the Kobe to shack alleyoop! Let's go ahead and paint the picture for you just in case for those who wasn't there? It was ten minutes and twenty seconds left to go in the game, and this was game seven against the travelers. This was a very tough game now at the time. The The Los Angeles Lakers. They were down. I believe. I believe it was down fifteen points, and it was epic comeback. The outscored the Blazers Twenty nine to eleven. It was amazing and in the last forty seconds of the game. The most iconic moment. Kobe to shack and as you saw at ballgame. Blazed do that. Ramsey to it through and his eyes open up, and he is pointed at Kobe coming down in that excitement we knew. It was oh. Yes the gay finished eighty four to eighty nine. But in my mind in my memory, it was a lot closer if felt like that dunk ended getting. And it also ended that that was on their back that game right there. That led them to the championship after a drought for so long nineteen ninety-one, the had not been in the finals and Kobe Shack. Got Him back. Great Job Twenty years ago twenty years ago late. Great Kobe Bryant Shaq Diesel. Man. Where were you? Where were you? Now I gotTa jump into the Segmen Dad I usually do I, usually reserved the segment every now and again. I keep this segment during basketball season especially during the. With young kids, we're high. School Middle School. Kids playing basketball is reserved this season. Reserve that just for them. But I had to take this timeout to talk about an amazing young man, and this is going to be for my why Yuval Segment! Yes, I wanNA talk about Mikey. Williams fifteen-year-old Mikey Williams. He is a number. One ranked basketball player for the class of twenty twenty three. and He. Realizes the power that he has? and. He can possibly change the face of basketball as we see. Right now, everybody speaks of college basketball, taking advantage of the athletes. And most of our the bu-but blueblood schools aren't schools that are benefiting to athletes in themselves. They get in for one year and then they leave. Now mikey Williams took to. Instagram to go ahead and say. Some powerful words that may sway the call of basketball so I. Want you to stop and think about this. mikey Williams stated. And Hugh. Wouldn't be so bad. He stayed his after he got a recruitment letter from Tennessee State University a historically. College or University Now A lot of argument has been coming up about this matter of fact, for years. report an analysts Jamila. Hill stated that. Dow. Black athletes. And african-american athletes should actually go ahead and withdraw from. Predominantly, white institutions and go to HP US now. This is something that I myself always felt that. The. Though conferences that have these HCC's. They will greatly benefit from a Lotta these players and a lot of these players will get to play. In an environment, which they would feel a little bit more comfortable, instead of going to an environment, in which they will be forced to trying adapt to a different situation, so that is just stands at Mikey Williams taking on one end to say hey, that could be an option, but I want everyone to stop and think about this. Right, now with? The NBA drafting kids Outta High School Wood Jr. that will be the case in actually go ahead and have come up to the G. League with the other avenues of such as the NBL. Wouldn't it be? I think it would be a great option as far as to go to the Hughes and actually shift the culture of college, Basketball This may be something that where we can find. Is it really these coaches that are absolutely rate? Or is it the fact that they have the money to get all the best athletes now? If the top one hundred went to Hugh. That would change March madness in the final four. Altogether. Just in one year. That's just something to think about and and I think that Mikey Williams even at a young age has taken the opportunity to go ahead and start that conversation so. I must say that that. That, that shows leadership beyond his years so i. Congratulate! You Might Williams. Now I gotta jump into my, favorite. Yeah, you know time it is see the shoulders move. Oh, is the favorite topic. This favorite segment is called. Let's kick. It leads K., come on y'all. Kid Get all ride. Hey, look this. Kick it now this this dawn. This time I always like to talk about you know what are going to be the greatest sneakers coming out for the summer. Now of course, we all know that this is Joan and we have the nets holiday coming up or the next. Major holiday, coming up in the United States is actually going to be the fourth of July. So a lot of sneakers right now coming out with their fourth of July. Fourth of July Holloway's now I gotta go ahead and shout out the Nike Air Max Ninety S for coming out with the whole. The Ninety s Joel's I'm sorry. came out with the home and away now let's say I. Want you to take a look at these the reason why you're going to really like these. The look here. The Air Max Ninety Jill wasted though it does have that beautiful. That that that classic nineties airmax style. The thing that I. Like about it is if you've noticed. The soul is going to be a gum soul, and it does have that red, white and blue finish with red upper. That's GonNa be the part that really gives e. Gives the shoot I characters looking for I. Really think that that's going to be something that. I see myself getting this for that. I cook out. You know when I decided to go back out I. I'm not ready to go back out as of yet. I. I think I'm trying to both of my shoe game, but I I think that's going to be the first one coming out. This may be the second one for the next cookout. Yes, one of my favorites now this one is gonna be retailing at one hundred and ninety dollars. This is the Reebok Reebok shot noces. Now, anybody who remembers or watch is the the less kick it. You heard me talk about the Reebok Shack noces when it came out with the rainbow, color way and I thought those were very fly. But these right here going for one hundred and ninety with all the red, white and blue. I think this is gonNA. Be definitely something that you would wanna wear during your during July you go ahead and hold onto it. You know saying. Rocket Rather. The barbecues and every other barbecue throughout the summer. This is I. Think this is very cool one, if not, if not. You know one of those people who say that okay. This is not one of those shoes that I'm GonNa Rob. You know like. In the summer I could definitely see this as an on-court shoe that I would have A. Absolutely. Absolutely! Put it. I will be overwhelmed to rotten shot. This is a classic and as far as rebound goes. That's what you look for. And maybe speaking about classics, here goes a fun little shoe. Right here to six jail light three. Yes, it a drag dragging fruit color away. I think issues shoes right? Here is the most out of everything that I've that we displayed today are definitely GonNa probably got the air. Max Ninety, especially since it retails at one hundred and thirty. That's definitely something that I could see myself Komo. Rocking those those you know what I'm saying because those are the JOE's. You GotTa Rod, Dole especially with no socks or ankle socks, but if you're looking for something, that's GonNa be fun lively, have a little spunk to it, and especially if you are the type of person I need who recycle shoes and turns like my oldest shoes into my running shoes or something, the Gel light threes are going to be v perfect ones. They're very light they are. They are very durable running shoe, but not to mention you're very salish as well a great lifestyle show in itself. You can right those with a pair of jeans a little. Pink Dolphin or pink Dolphin t shirt and jeans jacket and I think you ready for just about any summer brunch or any summertime Get together, and you know that's how that's. How rocket personally? But I definitely want John Keep looking at checkout. Let's cake. They got some big things coming up. As a matter of fact, the websites it'd be coming up and we're GONNA make sure that all of the shoes that we speak about right here on ball court and let's kick it to make sure that you get access to those you know. You GotTa make sure you seem fresh. You know so I gotTa give a shout out definitely to the people who made this possible CWF's sports I do appreciate you because not to mention that they're putting out my show like. Let's kick it on ball court, but. They got some great content. I'm talking. They got the league with the blitz man. Guys a funny guy! If you're not watching the glitzy, not keep it up to the greatest days now also. Sean Harvey Morning. Show let me ask you. How are you starting? Your morning is is you're not listening to Sean Harvey. Morning Show I. Don't know how you start your morning. I'm telling you you can put. You can put it on on your facebook live. Have it playing in the car while you're riding down just listening and joking or if you're sneaky, that were sh- I ain't nobody and Sean Ain't gonNA tell nobody go ahead and enjoy yourself. Listen, listen have fun. Have Fun and guess what. Be on the lookout. New Fusion sports is on its way and me. I'm going drew I'm doing ball court I love all court, but I also love. Let's kick it, so check out those sneakers as well checking me out on bulk, and if you're not subscribing. Libya, t y so as a word for the coach. I gotTa tell you stay healthy. Stay safe. Stay informed and stay active once again I am coach Drew Instance Ball Court, and thank you for joining me in the world of basketball. 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An Update From 'The Maven' Himself

Boomer & Gio

18:44 min | 2 months ago

An Update From 'The Maven' Himself

"You don't did yesterday got my mind off. Things made me feel like a child again. which is always a bad thing. I heard the ice cream truck. And I hopped on my bike and I chased the son of bitch down. I. Didn't have to yell. Out there for probably a half an hour, and it's very difficult to track down these ice cream trucks when they stop because the music goes off, so then you here for a little bit. And then it stops, and then you gotTa keep going in that direction. And I was going through neighborhoods, all sorts of neighborhoods, and I had gotten Gina and supreme excited about bring the ice cream back i. mean this was the closest. shortcake, or did you get some toast? Which get Saddam? So I didn't know it was a MR softy truck. All when I until I got there and I didn't so I was thinking I was just going to grab bars in packaging and stuff him in my pocket didn't like bring a bag with me so I was so then I had to think like what am I going to get that I could carry back on the bike so I gotta Mr Softy. Shake was easy to carry, and then I got the two of those strawberry shortcake bars that you're referencing that my wife loves. Stop them in the pocket you go. You know I've felt. Off those bars in your pocket. No they were frozen solid. Those things I only had to go back to the house like five minutes on the bike. It was fine. Was the Eddie Murphy bit about you know the ice cream? Man You know is like one of the funniest things I've ever seen because it just from a standup right, so for all of us who grew up on Long Island, and we're proud of where we come from. We all have a lot in common. We often talk about this. We often talk about the pizza powers we talk about the Delis at we talk about the ice cream. Man Whether Be Mr. Good humor whether or not the Mr softy whether it be bungalow bar tastes like tar. The more you eat out of you are in that kind of thing. That we all had that in common when Eddie Murphy did that bit about chasing down the ice cream and everything else was. It was about as funny as I've ever heard when I first heard that it just brought me back to my childhood. Yeah, and that's what yesterday did for me I. Mean I felt like a hunter and gatherer a provider. That's what I felt like as I chase this down I. I mean it was like the closest I'd be like a caveman going out and getting some sort of animal to bring back to the cave to roast for my family over an open fire, but that was that was awesome and ever tell you the story now that I'm remembering the ice cream stuff for my child every time, the story of the drunk ice cream lady in my neighborhood and I was like. Me and my friend this this was reduced. We didn't even know what like a drunk person looked like at this point in our lives, right? We just thought that people had something wrong with them. I mean I'm telling you I was under ten years old, so I was like you know eight. Maybe I was on a little bike I was just out around the house, ice cream, lady and ice cream truck comes down the block. We wave at down. We had a couple of dollars in our pocket because we knew at the ice cream truck would come around this time. And she pulls over. She is completely hammered I'm talking just laid out so she she's Hey. What are you? What so I just I have a vivid memory of this like you wouldn't believe so. I'm like what I'm thinking to myself. What the Hell is going on with this lady so then? She just hands us the ice cream. Go Go! Hey, kids just take it, so we're like Oh this is the greatest thing ever. This is awesome, so we run back to the house. We tell her parents ice cream lady. She was acting really funny, but I don't know. She gave us the ice cream for free, so then about ten minutes later we are. Out Police sirens going down, so we hop on the bikes to go see what's happening. She crashed into a tree and the ice cream truck was on its side, and there was cop standing on top of the ice cream truck, throwing all the ice cream out of it to everybody, so it didn't melt. The ice cream and bring it home and little. Did I know how horrible that was at the time? That is woman was out there, drunk driving the ice cream truck I thought it was the greatest life I had gotten so much. Free ice cream, maybe issues, but over the. Deel! MILKSHAKES cakes. Yeah, but that was. That was great. They man. On the bike chasing down the ice cream truck at thirty eight years old. So yes I did play around a golf and yesterday. I saw something that I had never seen. I basically seen. I think it was a day old. Baby Deer Adecco. Abd`er. Whatever DOE. A deer female in? And just sitting in the long grass like trying to hide I mean literally been here for about twenty four hours, not a good time to be born. I would say. Until this unrest stops for four a little Bambi. It was perfect and I got a picture. I'll send a picture of you guys, but it was just sitting there. There was the most like kind of amazing thing you come walking up on it. You kind of get a little bit startled because you don't know what's what's in the grass, and the as you're trying to look for your, Golf Ball. And here's this. Here's here's Bambi. Just laying there and honestly it's mother was nowhere around I i. don't know, but it was just. It was like still covered. It looked like it had just been born within the last. Auto ten one like slime yet like ten to twenty four hours. Wow, interesting. And you took it home and look. It's right behind you right now. Right new pet isolation's really gotten. I was pretty good. It's mother is Whimsey. Believe it or not so this story. Yeah another dear great with what I was hoping for more. More deer on long. So happy, there's more baby deer that are growing into big deer to eat all of the shrubbery outside of my house. All Right? The Jerry's here with an update. What's going on Jerry morning, guys? I'll tell you you talk about the sign of the Times so I have. CBS on The news is on right now with Chris Raggi and Mary. And something that I think if we rewind a year ago. If you put this on the screening, but what the Hell is that? They had a live shot with a reporter on the sidewalk with the boarded up. Whatever store it was. You've got construction worker walking by him and a jogger with a mask on. Mean it. The boarded up store have razor wire. Like saks fifth avenue. No, it did not that I think it was Nordstrom Rack I. Think was the store that he was just in front of it had multiple layers though of plywood. It wasn't just one sheet look like they were at least two or three layers of it and staggered, and then along comes. This little jogger gets. It's nothing. Crazy and boomer your TV. I have a question for you. Notice this. My mornings now start with Chris. Rock Mary Calvi every single day, and I feel like I know them now. What is it about news? I'm not picking on CBS they all do it, and I know that, but it's like they come on at the top of the hour. You know the city's burning. You know this is on fire looting murders, but before we get to that, let's check the weather weather. Yeah, yeah, we had. A metric, that's what people are looking for more than we all that and that's one thing we all have in common is the weather. We all want to know what the weather's going to be like. Especially before we go to work and get dressed for the day fair enough. Zooming, I'm not sure now you gotta hurricane forming down in right off the coast of Florida and an asteroid is coming towards our audiences past. The asteroid thing still going to be like three and a half million miles away thirteen. In S- in space distance. Yes, that's right. Very close I think it's thirteen million miles away, but I told Al on the warm up show between five and six They're worried more about twenty twenty four as it gets when it comes, comes back around samples backer coming back around where it's just offline just. Back Yeah. That's the way it works just like us. As the the earth, it's as big as or bigger than the empire state building. So I ended up going down a deep hole with this yesterday. This asteroid thing so I actually googled I, said asteroid plan like what's the plan if it's coming towards us like who has decided what it is so apparently. What I was reading was correct, which who the hell knows but Nastase going to send some like ship up to collide with with people in an obviously but to collide with to knock it off course if it was heading towards us. Leaden. I know with Bruce Willis. Yeah, yeah, but that's that is what not the B- didn't they? Blow it up Armageddon. But you don't want to. Get on the ship and he blew it up. You blow it up. All you're doing is creating. You know a million giant asteroids coming after us, so you gotTa Push it off course, somehow he just nudge it if you get it early enough. Yes, so that's that's. For. Everybody knows it's like a deflection in front of the net something I'm good at. So, that's what you want. Do you want to try to deflect it now? I. Just think governor Cuomo's worried about this now you want to bring this up at his press conference. It'd be interesting. Today. It's not a threat would be funny though it'd be very very. Realize that in twenty twenty four. We could have an asteroid coming here. About it just that it might be a little closer I don't think it's going to hit us, but it could be closer than reading the article. It's like Nastase looking at thousands of meteors. Good thank God they are. Someone's going to be looking for that stuff now. One of those things you just WanNa like all of a sudden boom there's an asteroid, and then there's dust covering the world. We want to have an idea that it's coming. Those. Damn dinosaurs that no clue some triceratops. On some leaves one day dead the next, yes. We're here. At least we got some telescopes and stuff to figure this thing out. That's exactly right. speaking of figuring things out I'll start here only because you guys brought it up. Earlier you're man John. Hayman is with you, boomer. He was on Tiki and Tierney yesterday. Talking about the whole baseball thing that these the players and the owners they got figure it out. Both sides understand that they need to play baseball. If the health data lower and get on that field work at deal, you know I believe I'm not gonNA say guarantee. I believe they will figure it out. Some way, somehow because they know, the alternative is terrible for the game gotta play, and they understand that the question on what he said. In the beginning there is the health issue, and as you guys also discuss. She got the Yomiuri giants canceling their scrimmage today because of two players testing positive so i. don't know what they'll do tomorrow or going forward. Forward. Their season was supposed to open June nineteenth and we'll see if this puts a wrinkle into it, which will answer the question? boomers been asking since March. What happens if player or players June nineteen? That's actually two weeks from now. Yeah, so you can still put these guys in fourteen day quarantine and still get back and start playing again. Question is. You know if these to have tested positive. How many other people have tested positive and are there any other people that maybe not players, but trainers, coaches and support personnel TV personnel? I mean there's just a long list of candidates that could come down with this. Yep, no question about it and you might not know for two weeks. which would take us right to around their opening day so once again? Again it'll be a model that baseball can watch and see what happen all the other sports, too for that matter. Bret Boone was on with Zak Gelb on CBS sports radio. He was a player right back in his days when he played his advice to the players side the advice I'd give to the young players, and not that I'm going to tell another man how to behave used to shut up. It does nobody any good? And especially nowadays with everything we have access to at our fingertips It, does nobody any good to to live it publicly well, that's with how Louis Man. He's actually said it, and he's talking about all players I. Yeah, I think so. You've been retired players all sides. Yeah, it's I just can't help, but put something out there. Social media is just people are addicted to it and. PUT It out there they put on. Maybe, a twitch channel or somewhere else, and they give their opinions about it, and then all of a sudden. You know they're going to be open for criticism like Blake Snell was. was there anybody I guess Barry Bonds is the best example because I was skinny. He was in his career and how big he got, but I think bret. Boone has got to be up there. It's like the number one in your face steroid guy. He went from tiny infielder, told the. Act humongous due to his home. Is that over the place? Oh. Yeah, remember what that Mariners Team I don. Jr I'd Never Brady Anderson with the orioles that one year. But. He didn't look that different. He ended up hitting fifty home runs in different. He looked different. Visually Brett. Poon got huge. It was that great mariners team that in two thousand one. That won all those games about letting. Another good one! Yeah, it's definitely a one. He's turned out well. What's he doing these days? Heard from it good Lord. Eddie you can skip the other Brune one enough a Ham Boston Globe reporting that the players association embracing the proposal from the owners to only play regional schedule. During whatever the twenty twenty can't agree on some. Yes, how about that and that will limit travel and hopefully will keep the virus. Away from them, so that's a good thing. At least they came together on something NFL. Wise a bunch of stuff here number one in terms of a season or not espn reporting the NFL did tell all teams, they must have training camps this summer at their main practice facility, so you're not going away for camp this year, and there will be no joint practices being played at all because of the pandemic. So that's number one number two. You got the Viking linebacker Anthony Barr and Eric Kendricks who are on the team Social Justice Committee issuing identical tweet yesterday denouncing the league stance on systemic issues. Here was the tweet that they both put out quote. Your statement said nothing you're league is built on black athletes. Vague answers do nothing. Let the players what you're actually doing, and we know what silence means. That was then they put it out. So, are they a part of the players coalition that is supported by the League or as a suggestion grope. They're on the team Social Justice Committee. I would think that's gotta be wrong. No. Right so this is this. Is the Malcolm Jenkins right? This is the I would think I don't know that all right, okay. All right I'll look into that and see what they're saying, but yeah, so just Google, it I'm going to just relaxed Jimmy. A few seconds I mean I. Have like the typing abilities of. Just relax Al for God's sake. Then you've got chargers head coach Anthony Lynn. He talked to the La Times. There's no audio of this but I. Give you a couple of the quotes. From the storytelling, and he's been I believe he has protested himself. Levi's out there. His quote was in terms of what happened in Minnesota and going forward quote. How do we effect change? Where's the accountability for that kind of BLEEP That's where I'm at right now. I'm angry I'm pissed off and I. Don't want to just put out a pretty statement. I haven't done anything to make this a better place for my son. I want to do something but to be honest with. With you I don't know what that is. Well it just by using his platform, saying what he's saying and being an NFL head coach. He's just done more than probably ninety nine point nine percent of the people in the world. You're probably right about that. And this this comes from Vic Fangio. broncos head coach, and this is what boomers really been telling us for years and years about the NFL. I think our problems in the NFL. Along those lines. Are Minimal. Where League of meritocracy. You earn what you get. You get what you earn. I don't see Racism? At all in the NFL I don't see discrimination in the NFL. And I think he was also talking about the locker rooms like the camaraderie, and it's kind of a boomers been talking about how once you're on a team. You're on a team and you guys are all joined at the hip, and you work for one common goal, so a lot of good stuff passionate, said he. said he hoped the world could become like an NFL locker room, right? And? Here's the best part in a league you know wishing and hoping and praying that people can come together like an NFL team does especially when you're winning, you know when you're winning. Nothing like it. Just the whole atmosphere around the team is great. It's the tough times when you're losing in. Pointing fingers, whose fault is it and you know and we in the media you know, exacerbate all that kind of stuff, but that's when you really have to hang together. No question and then a couple of others quickly here form bullets all star, Wes unseld passed away. He was seventy four, I didn't realize he was the rookie of the year and the MVP. Yeah. Sixty eight sixty nine didn't know that that he won't. He's the. He'll the next one. He was in Baltimore Surest. That was said yesterday. The NBA is close to making it official at Coronado. Springs Disney will be their hub resort and that they'll be playing a wide world of sports, which is kind of known looks like twenty two team format. Though that's not official yet, they'll have the vote tomorrow and October. It'd be the last possible day for the playoffs to end. That's what's kind of leaking out right now. And then finally you got a Florida Court Denying Zion Williamson's motion to stay discovery relating to his eligibility back at Duke, which means he's now going to be required. Answer questions about whether or not. His family received improper Ben. And that's under oath. Yeah, this could be under oath. You know. Listen if he had nothing to hide. Then I don't think he would try to block emotion probably to. Come and talk to you and tell you everything. You need to know to get real real quick. And Duke is going to get caught up in it. If in fact there, there was something here because exactly you know it's. Just here Rick Pitino right now. Just going off on. We were that are reading it and smiling something? Right so there you go guys.

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Hour 2: Chiney Ogwumike & Elle Duncan

The Stephen A. Smith Show

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Hour 2: Chiney Ogwumike & Elle Duncan

"City an ESPN news I'm Jason Fitz. We're GONNA start the our as we do every hour with some headlines that you need to know start with some sad news in the NBA World Hall of Famer and former Washington bullets star Wes unseld dies. The age of seventy four family said in a statement that unsolved had had lengthy health issues most recently with pneumonia his quote, he was the Rockefeller family. Family, an extremely devoted patriarch, reveled in being with his wife, children, friends and teammates. He was our hero in love, playing, basketball, and working around the game of basketball for the city to Baltimore Washington. DC City see proudly wore on his chest for so many years our condolences go out to the unseld family next up on the headlines, you need to know a judge. His weighed in on the case. Case Against Dianne Williamson remember there's questions on whether he was eligible to play as a result of benefits to receive to go to Duke in two thousand, eighteen, nineteen, well, a Florida State Court. Judge on Tuesday denied the PELICANS rookie request to stay discovery into whether he was eligible under NCWA rules. When he played that season, so they will, he will be required to answer questions and requests for emissions. Emissions from attorneys representing genome. Ford and prime sports marketing who are suing Williams for one hundred million dollars for breaching their marketing agreement. They're expected to file appeals, so we'll see what that means moving forward. And lastly now headlines a little bit of encouraging news in the corona virus world. It looks like major league soccer and the MLS players. Association appeared to be heading towards an agreement on economic. For Twenty twenty as well as as well as revised collective bargaining agreement terms that's according to our very own Taylor's woman. If the agreement is completed and ratified, it will see the two sides avoid the lockout that had been threatening the threatened by the league since last Sunday so that will help them molest gain some economic relief from the damage suffered during the pandemic, which prompted the league to shut down on March twelfth. Twelfth? Those are your headlines. It's I take your take on ESPN radio ESPN. News were presented by Progressive Insurance. Guests appear with us on the Shell Pennzoil performance line I'm Jason. Fitz you know the phone number triple eight say ESPN, eight, eight, eight, seven, nine, three, seven, seven six. You can call in. You can also tweet me as many of you are doing today. If you've listened to me at all I've been with. With ESPN radio or in some capacity since late in two thousand sixteen. If you've listened to me throughout the course of my career, ESPN, you know that I've often been the person that says hey. We're GONNA escape you. We're going to get away from everything. We're going to find some reason to talk about other things so that you can get your mind off of the world. That's what I've largely used this microphone to. To Do, and it's something that I've considered a real responsibility whether an entertainment or sports is to sort of divert everybody and give everybody a few hours where they don't have to think about anything else. What's going on the world today? Though is too important. It means too much. If you listened yesterday, Stephen did a great job during this time slot of speaking to American speaking from the heart in a way that really. was he was able to get things out that meant so much to him I wanted to do the same today, but I wanted to do so in my own way and the best way that I thought I could do it was Bhai getting people together that I love and respect that I have real relationships with that. I know that I can have open honest conversations, and I want to have transparent conversations that maybe the rest of the world is uncomfortable with maybe. Maybe. The rest of the world is in is afraid to I'm the first to admit I'm a forty three year old white guy, so talking about these issues in so many ways for many years has felt to me like it was useless like my voice didn't have a place, and I can't decide now if that was because I was afraid to talk about those issues, or because they just want to avoid them altogether, but what I WANNA do now instead of real. Real conversations in ways where my voice, this microphone at least for a day can offer some sort of thought to people because I think it's more important than ever that we have serious conversations, so we're going to get this straight talk. Straight talk doesn't play. Games get the unlimited plan. With twenty five gigs of high speed data then two G. for just forty five bucks. A month saves you up to fifty percent against the big carriers, no contracts, no compromise savings May. May Vary terms and conditions at straighttalk DOT COM, one of the most amazing I'd say lights at ESPN. People that just brighten up the room when they walk in it is ESPN analyst and sparks forward Chennai. Mckay someone that I consider not only a friend, but someone that I respect the hell out of in every possible way not just isn't ethic, but also as an analyst, and also for the work ethic, and also for everything that she is to the world so. Graciously agreed to join me today. Thanks for the time I really appreciate you hanging out and I know these conversations are awkward so I just WanNa. Have them like I'm trying to figure out. When you see somebody like me, I'm forty three and white. Like what? What can I be doing? What should I be doing? How can I be a better voice to help some level of change? Hey first of all, thank you so much for the kind words. Jason you know I think I I WANNA. Say regardless of issues. You are just an awkward person in general. Is that you know what I mean, this is our day to day life. That's so much okay. I think right now you know. I. I am a Nigerian American. female athlete that was born and raised in Houston Texas, and so I was born and raised with three other sisters. If you know anything about African culture. It's a predominantly patriarchal society. Right so even though I was born in Houston Texas Cypress Texas My family raised us to try to not let anything being a barrier to anything that we wanted to do. and I think every family has that goal and aspiration. I think the goalposts are different based on what we're seeing society, you know our standards for each other and I think I would just like to start this conversation by saying. Everyone has a different. Everyone has a unique point of view, but I do think everyone's entitled to be heard as well. And I think for so long. We've been in our comfort zones rightfully, so because that's how we operate. You go to work. You're so busy. You have all these things you have to do. It's easy to exempt yourself from things that are uncomfortable easy to just sort of. Stay in your own lane. But now. In Times of Global Pandemic where we are forced to slow down, we are also forced to not ignore. We cannot be willfully ignorant to what's going on if you are, you're doing intentionally. And I think we're in the process of awakening as a society where when things have been going on one hundred miles per hour week could be, we could choose to sort of ignore. Some things are better now we can I think that's why you see a heightened sense of urgency so for people that may not look like me may not have that experience just understand. Our ultimate goal is to. Have a shared experience because we are in a shared place. and. We want that place to be better at least you start there. That is progress. A lot of people are like what can I do? What do I say? The there's no real answer to that, but one thing I've realized everyone can evaluate themselves. And I think that's the number one goal so I. Guess Starting there. That's something we can all choose to do. Now moving forward from that like I said. I'm from Houston Texas Texas, the northwest part of Cyprus, but he's dead, and so this is something that has really touched very close to home considering George Lloyd. Is from initial originally, Houston considering one of my closest people that I've gotten to know as I've worked. AT ESPN is Steven Jackson and considering that I am a woman of color. Right so like. This has been so hard to process and I guess the way I'd wrap up my initial thoughts before we get the things specifically separately is. It is okay if you are struggling processing. What's going on? It's okay if you don't know what to do, I'm confused. Were all confused because I think of human beings? What we're experiencing right now does not make sense you know if if you have a heartbeat, and you really adhere to that heartbeat, whether it's global, pandemic or the continual persecution of people color here in the United States. Those things do not make sense. Those things are hard to impact. Those things are uncomfortable to discuss. But I think the the reason why we're discussing in sports. What people forget and I'm hoping? Everyone has an open a say open minded at least open ears over the the reason. Is that by nature of loving sports you are loving something that is ultimately striving for. Winning greatness like these are all ideals that we cherish where part of the sports community where you WANNA. See Teams exceed you. WanNa see the struggle and know that it was worth something. That's why we're talking about sports universal principles that appliance sports that apply in all aspects of life. Playing basketball, it would be great like the hardware. Nice to take a picture with right, but what we cherish, we cherish the memories we. Cherish literally the guy that you probably can't stand on your team, but hey. She hit the shot. He worked in the gym like we just literally watch the last dance where there were dysfunctional aspects of a team, but what united of they wanted to succeed feed in society. We are all different. We all come from different backgrounds. WHAT UNITES US? We should all want the same same. The same success collective success that we're moving forward, not dividing because dividing is losing, so I guess that's how I'd start conversations. When it comes to sports if you love sports. If you say this is not relevant to sports, please please check yourself because the the essence of what you love is the essence of what makes good society. That's really well said. We're talking to ESPN analyst and sparks forward. Today grew McKay. You know today you mentioned earlier taking you a little time to figure out how to process all of this Oh as a woman of color. That is wnba player. When you see something like what we saw with the Knicks, the Knicks are essentially not saying anything like what does that. What's up moment? Feel like for you given what you're dealing with right now. It's frustration I think just because I understood. Look. I'm a WNBA player that just. we accomplished a new collective bargaining agreement with the league, meaning the only reason I bring that up specific to the next. Is that when you're in a workplace? Everyone's job is valuable, and everyone has a unique experience and so two consciously disregard the value of one person. It does not contribute to the ultimate. Better business like. You can't avoid something so I. Guess The way I'd put it in TV terms, and this is one thing I learned. When you go into studio and you're on air. You're at the mercy. He the viewer meaning. Millions of people are seeing you reacting to how you are right. You're saying you're take or whatever the case may be or even on the radio right. When something happens, that is not according to plan. Which is, that's that's life. Life is full of imperfections. WHO's GonNa? Help you through those moments I go on Air I. Sit at the table Oh. My Gosh, I forgot or like. Maybe I didn't notice I i. my makeup is falling or whatever looks eighty or something like that. If I didn't build a relationship with my colleagues at the table. If I didn't build relationship with the cameraman if I didn't build a relationship with the security met like. That has contributed to this ultimate product that you care about getting sports news. When I'm struggling, someone else won't have that back to help. Have your back to help that struggle like for instance. Cameraman today. Hey, you have that built relationship today, look! This let me bring the makeup. We're all one team. I think there's so many instances in business that are very similar. Just because there's a group of people that might be experiencing, some think ignoring them is not the answer acknowledging them as the answer, because ultimately they're contributing to Your Business I. Don't know if that makes sense, but like the way that's the way I. See it on TV. You have to respect everyone that you work with. And you have to understand what their struggles are. Because if you, if you isolate those struggles, they will not work in a beneficial way for your business overall, and it's just unfortunate that it continues to be the next that. Make these type of headlines when when when things like this happen, will in what you're saying. Resonates with me today, because the one thing that I think is always made it difficult for me. I didn't grow up with with race issues like I mean I grew up in the entertainment business right and whether it's entertainment or sports. Junior junior always uses the fred meritocracy. Give what you earn also. I grew up in this world of. The classical music industry you, you audition behind the curtain. Nobody knows who you are. What your gender is. How old you are what you look like. They don't care and then when you get into the higher levels of touring music. If, you can play. You're going to get a job. Right like these are the things that I'm used to so? Foreign to me to wrap my head around how there can be such large sections of the world that we root force fans, whether it's entertainment or music that have figured out some level of diversity and figured out how to love one each other and respect one another, and it just doesn't translate pass that I can't out why it stops at some level in all of a sudden. It just becomes about US versus them. Are you versus me? Yeah. Yeah, no I. Absolutely agree you know I think that's the major issue. There's a disconnect to. Why I guess you are using your platform today to talk the great conversations that are necessary right now, but uncomfortable for many people I think there needs to be a wholesale recognition that in sports. The people that you're rooting for are typically the majority of the minority. meaning. We are minorities, but we make up the majority in the business in which we're operating the NBA or possibly the NFL not all-sports I'm assuming hockey is not as such right but But typically we are the majority of the minority, so that's why when people say is sports, the athletes that you're telling those people to stick the sports to not have an issue or to shut up and dribble whatever the case may be. The people that they grew up around for the existence of their life have a completely different struggle than what you're trying to say, and you're not even understanding that struggle and you're absolutely correct. This is the point that I was trying to make yesterday. When I went on, get up. A lot of people you know when when they're trying to exempt themselves from this conversation, they might say. I can't relate or I. don't understand way like try. Try to educate yourself and also most importantly understand that this is a human issue as well. It's about how we view and treat one another, and how some things so think about how something so small and out of our control. I said as pigmentation can change and alter perception something out of control. When you're born, you can't control what you look like. You know what I mean, but that pigmentation ultras perception, and it has the most of consequences. I always tell people, and this is another thing I was saying. No matter how much success I am a what does it have to jobs in the WNBA and also? ESPN I graduated from Stanford University. I came from a wealthy background with my parents. I had no my heritage back home in Nigeria. Like I'm good right I'm very fortunate, but no amount of success that I can make can save me from society that can change their view of based on how I look meaning people don't see my background. People don't see my chievements just when I'm walking down the street, they just we have A. A society that I can turn on you based on how you look so that doesn't like that. No, NBA Players Immune at four player that that has the same struggle right so so I think you see a lot of the success on social media, we see all the glory and sports. You see the studio on air the court UC the field. You don't see those everyday reality, which is why athletes care so much right now. I get worried when my dad walks in the morning by himself like this is something I wake up. I say my prayers and I always call my dad. I stayed on the phone with my mom anytime. You know we used to live play for the Connecticut. Sun I used to live of where where am I used to live? In groton I used to live in east line and I used to live Was it a task bill, and so the drive to ESPN would be about our fifteen. I do that. Drive could be ready. Sportscenter seventy drive at four am. Esp- but like three am. If I was doing first and last with junior right I drive, I'd be on the phone with my mom for Georgie of that dry, and then I do radio at night. and I'd be I'd be getting home. Probably at two am I be on the phone. My mom would be up the majority of night just because if anything were to happen the only person on the road. We all know Connecticut cops. You know like they. They are very on point. When it comes to making sure you're not beating right so like, but I'd be. Be On my phone intentionally just because I had to, I didn't want anything crazy to happen. I'm not like judging. These are just things I do how I have to move to check on my dad when he walks my morning. That type of stuff like these are our everyday realities, even though I'm wnba player, a degree from Stanford. A TWO-TIME ALL-STAR I'm good. I'm very fortunate very privileged. I still have to think like that and I think that's what we're trying to bring awareness to you, and when you say meritocracy so so so true because I was explaining to people. Athletes, the reason why we to speak up is because we have experienced something so pure in our society, meaning you are, you are achieving on your performance, not based on what you look like. When I go and hoop look the numbers don't lie. Stats don't lie. You can't control everything on the most fair and level playing field, but when we leave the arena when we leave the court when we beat the field. That's not the same at all times like yes, we can you know step into some more money? And yes, we can have gates and stuff like that. We're still going to be walking around and existing in the world and the people we love, and the people that look like us are still going to be walking around. The world. That's the privilege that we acknowledged knowing that the people that we have built us to be these people on platforms pedestals, even though we're seeing society now that we're not the heroes vs central workers and stuff like that right, but also the people that are championing change You know those are the people that we have experienced and we're trying to let people know that. Hey, we are the lucky one. And we have also achieved and competed on the highest level where there's been no barrier besides your performance, not pigmentation you know so. That's the energy that we come from, and if you don't mean I know I'm going on a risk, but I know it's not probably not nearly as long as Dominique's. You Know Me. You know I love everybody I'm here to hear you like I if you have a point of view like. I grew up in Texas because Texas. I was the only I. Think I'm pretty sure I was the only black girl in my. In my private school, I went to Saint. Edwards private school in my grade all the way until second grade, there were two other black, the black kids there, and then I get to high school, and it's more diverse I'm in Cyprus now. And then I get to college, and it's definitely super diverse 'cause. It's at Stanford but like I grew up. Where I was constantly in a state of where I could choose to be uncomfortable and I didn't want to let dat steal my joy. So instead I I learned to listen and I learned to say. Hey, you're here you, but this is my point of view and I think that everyone can do that like being the Awkward Gangly A. Girl with an advocate family. That like you know I'm just like speaking to my point of view like. You know as a kid. You WanNa have like you're in school. You have crashes and all that type of stuff like by the energy I was was different. I was different I didn't I didn't get a ton of energy as a rate like you have these desires to want to be accepted, but I think it's a two way street. And I learned then that we are capable like I met so many great people that started one way, and then shifted because we came at it at the same energy and knowing that ultimately. We want to relate better because that's just better for the both of us harboring anger. ignorance that takes energy. Moving past it, you're conserving energy, and you're channeling into something much better and I think as an athlete now we have the vehicle where like Yo. This is achievable your sport. And it's also something that my my family. My friends are struggling with. How can we spread that energy to more people and I'm hoping people can sorta hear this message. Knowing is possible, and I know it's hard, but it all it takes the little you can do the least you can do is self introspection, and also try to understand the point of view instead of condemning it before you don't you know? I. That's where I'm at fit. She's grew McCain I'll say this quickly before we let you go. You know as I, said earlier, my brother was imprisoned for a long time, and he's turned out to be fairly successful in his life very successful. And he laughs about the fact that he still at some level profile, but understand that my brother as a as a white guy in prison. He's covered in tattoos with the look and he's got that. There's certain things about him that he chose to his life that make him more likely to be profiled. One of the alarming things is we've now talked to a couple of different people on this show that have been tremendously successful and through no fault of their own. Own have to go through so many of these things just because the color of their skin that in and of itself speaks to the privilege that I don't always feel like in my life I've necessarily had privileged in the sense that so many people understand privilege, but I've had privilege in every way that I possibly could is somebody that's White Chennai. I really appreciate you coming on. I appreciate your insight. You are amazing. Thank you so much for hanging out with us. Thank you for having me into all of those that are listening right now. I know it could be uncomfortable, but I wanNA say thank you even if you're not happy with what I'm saying, I want to say. Thank you even listening because hopefully eventually. You'll. You'll understand a little bit better, so thank you I appreciate I love everybody and But what you're doing is really special, and that's why we're friends, though you are twenty, four seven awkward so. Part charm today you're the best. Thank you so much. ESPN radio presented by progressive insurance insurance for motorcycles boats RV's production on the road and the water. See how much you can save in as little as three minutes at one eight hundred progressive. Progressive Dot Com. We're GONNA. Keep the conversation going with somebody spent three or four people in the last week. That have truly changed my life. We're going to talk to them one of them next with an important message I think you need to hear. We're going to do that, but I going to tell you about straight talk. It's time for straight. Talk You. The most live sports are on hold. Hold Right now. Big wireless companies haven't stopped playing games. They're always trying to lock you into overprice contracts with straight talk wireless there are no contracts runs on America's best networks same as carries, but just save up to fifty percent forty five bucks a month. Get you the unlimited plan with two thousand five gigs of high speed data than two G. You might miss sports but don't play games. You'll lose straight talk. Wireless no contracts, no compromise savings may vary terms and conditions at straighttalk dot com. That's all we're doing today. Straight talk. You'll hear more next I take ESPN radio. ESPN news. I take your take on ESPN, radio. The ESPN APP siriusxm channel eighty an ESPN news. We're presented by progressive. Insurance I'm Jason. Fitz. All of our guests on the show pennzoil performance line, and if you're just tuning in. You know that usually I use this time to give everybody a reason to escape to not think about what's going on in the world and to talk about sports well. I'm not doing that today and. It's important to me. Stephen had the opportunity yesterday to talk to everybody from one to three eastern in this time slot, which I think was incredible I even a incredible for so many people to get to hear what he had to say that being said I've a lot to say on what's going on in the world today. There are a few conversations I. Don't think ever forget my life. One last week was with. With the manual Wacho who started sort of an a movement of asking people to come out and speak out and help, and I remember that moment in the conversation that came afterwards because it really challenged me the next one that I think about often is conversations with a close friend of mine that joins US now. We're going to get some straight. Talk brought to you by straight talk. Wireless sportscenter host El Dunkin joins. Joins US in sportscenter host. El Dunkin is not just to find out what she does, but she's defined by partially who she is an incredible person and a close friend, and my objective in having these conversations over the last couple of hours was to have real conversations with friends. Because I think we can be more raw more real I can be more vulnerable than a lot of you're comfortable being in these conversations i. I, think, there are a lot of questions that frankly people are forty, two almost forty-three like me that are white have been almost afraid to have and I'm willing to have those on there, because I think it's important for everybody to hear him, so l., thank you first and foremost for everything that you've been doing everything you continue to do in my life, and for helping push me I'm gonNA. Ask You A. Direct question here because I felt like a week ago. If you'd ask me, told you to. The black community did not want at any point to have a sports talk. Host hosted forty-three in white speaking for them. Because what the hell can I know about your plight. Vote like a week ago. My voice was useless to not needed by that community. Where did I miss so much well? You missed because what you did was you were? You were not recognizing the privilege of being able to disassociate yourself from other people's issues right so I always say this to people and they're like well. I just feel I. Feel some type of way because to your point I'm not a black person. And what do I know and you don't want fits I love you. I think you're fantastic. Sports Talk Radio, host and television host, and all those things and you haven't played a day of professional football or baseball or basketball or hockey in your life. Life so if you are qualified to talk about things like sports than how are you not qualified to talk about things like human rights, and the point is that everyone always goes into conversations expecting to win some type of debate, but this isn't a debate. We're simply asking for our white allies like you to listen to receive it, and to then do your research and figure out how you can effectively help make change. That's all we're asking for you to do no one asking for anything more than your empathy, not apathy empathy, because it is apathetic to simply stand by and say I hate this for you, but I wasn't raised that way and I promise to. To treat you with respect, that's not enough will and I love everything. You just said because you're right I mean at some level for me. I can't decide whether it was just easier not to talk about it or more comfortable not to talk about it because you have this awkward sense behind you when you're looking at it, and you're absolutely right when it comes to the privilege of being able to escape whatever situations going on in the world. Because I can do that, I don't have to worry when I when I'm in a situation where I get pulled over, and and this is actually a true story I got pulled over in a terrible area a decade. Decade ago in Nashville I got pulled over an terrible part of town I'd probably had a few drinks I'm relent realistically at that stage of my life I got pulled over and when the cop came up to the car, he asked me what I was doing in that neighborhood. Because I bought a house in a, let's say up and coming. Part town wasn't all that good, so he was questioning what I was doing. The neighborhood because I didn't look like I. Belong because I wasn't black, and there's this moment where I been speeding and I had a headlight out, and he let me go like there was no issue right because he was looking out for you. Right I mean there's this moment where I don't think I've ever thought until you started having these conversations about the fact that when I get pulled over nine times out of ten I, don't have to worry about things I. Don't have to think about okay if I get a speeding ticket due to my insurance, that is such a first world problem compared to what anybody that doesn't look like me may have in these situations, and that's a real fewing absolutely. I always joke with my friends, and like if your biggest concern when you see the blue lights behind you is oh, crap! Am I gonNA be able to find my registration Then you, then you then you're certainly in a good spot because you're right I mean we are taught and we have to teach our son specifically, but I mean are are are black daughters as well because. Simply being black man doesn't mean that you're are being a black woman rather doesn't mean that your immune from from prejudices and from bigotry, and from the systemic racism that you'll face, but having to look your child in the eye and talk about at what point that go from being adorable and cute to a threat how they have to disarm themselves. You know when you go into a store, you know. Keep your arm your hands visible so that they don't think that you're. You're stealing. You know when you're when you get pulled over in the middle of the day for whatever reason speeding running a stop sign I mean. We just saw video of a black man I believe in Texas that ran a stop sign, and like seven cop card showed up and pulled guns on in front of his grandma's house. Like it's you're always being taught how to a disproportionate level. Protect yourself so that you can survive a traffic stop, and that is this it's it's a result. Result A of generational trauma. Okay, because I come from a black mother and black father, who pros tested and lived through the civil rights movement, and you know had water hose turn on them, and still yet, and still can show grace, and can still have friends that don't look like them, and can take the high road and recognize that not everybody is that way, but this sort of distrust and mistrust has been passed down from generation to generation. When you have dogs, you know turned on. On you for peacefully protesting, how do you ever get that out of your system out of your mind and out of your heart, and out of your spirit, frankly and so it's it's. It's something that's passed down to us. It's an unfortunate part of being black that you always have to. For the most part. Find Yourselves in situations where you are the minority and you. Your Task Domos with making sure that you're doing enough so that you're. You're comfortable in other people's space and that. That, they're comfortable with you. You know I told you this. The other day like I grew up in mostly white neighborhoods, I played softball. I was almost always the only black and my teams I went to predominantly white schools and part of the reason that I'm witty, and then I like to tell jokes, and then I'm funny is because for me. That was the great equalizer, and I thought this is the way that I sort of make. White people feel comfortable with me is by being funny. Funny, and you know appearing less of the threat because I'm so funny, and and so that's kind of our always. Todd I. Remember my grandmother always being like when we go into this restaurant, you know, keep your voice down as much as possible. We don't want them to think like we're the allowed black family and here you know so again. It's just like it's. It's just these constant little tiny cuts that eventually become gaping wounds, and that's why you're experiencing so much anger and frustration right? Right now across the country, which I think is an important point, because frankly I mean. There's a lot of conversation about a route, the looting and the rioting. That's going on right now. And what's lost in this is to me. We've got to start looking at everything that's going down whether it's from from the side of anybody and asking the questions. Why how here? Why are people doing this? And frankly why is there? An entire community feels like the only way they can be heard is. is to go out and riot in loot. There's gotta be action that caused this right right. I think that first of all there is a distinction between protesters and looters and rioters. You know there is. There are thousands and thousands and thousands of examples of people, peace people peacefully protesting and then you have opportunities to opportunistic looters and rioters who are taking advantage, and and some people who are just feeling that kind of anger, and I'm not here to say you know that the method. Is a problem because we need to get back to what precipitated. All of this and I have been using a lot of like. And analogies trying to speak with some of my white friends. Who I know are our allies in a way that they could understand and. I want you to imagine fits that your loved one that Sunny, okay, or for the people that are listening right now that a loved one of yours, your son or your father or your sister or your husband or your wife was sick. And that? Their health and their life were on the line, and you couldn't get a doctor to listen to you. What would you do like? How much noise would you make? Maybe. The first thing you would do is try to seek the opinion of another doctor. And if that didn't work, you might take a holistic approach and try vitamins and you might pray. But if you had to watch the anguish and the fear, and the pain on your loved ones face every single day knowing that while you know what's wrong with them, and that you can self diagnose the problem, you do not wield the power to cure it. And that is exactly what is facing black people. When we talk about these things, it is life or death to us. It means that much to us. And you fits as a white man, and for the people that are listening that are white. You're the doctors. You're the ones that can cure it. We don't have the power of the prescription pad because if we did. Don't you think it would be done by now? So we're asking you the not only listen and receive us. But to help us. That's why a call to action we need you. We, need you? sportscenter host El. Dengue joining us with the straight talk everything for less only at Walmart. You just sent to send something you need help and there's gotta be a way to help when we come back I'm an ask L., some direct questions about what can be done. What should be done and how we can get better? We're going to continue this conversation I. Take Care Take. We're GONNA all of that. Obviously coming up next, we got through that. First before we get to that, want to tell you about home depot. This is a true story that happened over the course of the weekend. Toilets stopped working. I had no idea I. Don't know anything about these things. I can't fix anything. And I saw a piece was leaking and I. Don't know what it is. I don't know what it's called I didn't. Didn't have to. I took it off the toilet I took it to the other room and I took a picture of it in the Home Depot APP. This is all true took a picture of in the home. Depot APP. It told me that I could find said piece in I'll. Seven told me where to go in. The aisle told me how many. Many they had told me how much was I was able to walk in and out of Home Depot in a matter of seconds, get it fixed, and then turn around and install it. That's the ease you can have with the APP. You can go online to find essential products information you need. You can order online. They can have it waiting for you at. At the store they can deliver over a million items free, and they have thousands of how to videos for the project in you need to make if you're like me and don't know how to do any of that Home Depot's here to help the home depot doers. Get more done. I'M GONNA. Figure out how we can get some things done next with. Take, your take ESPN radio ESPN news. I think your take on ESPN radio the ESPN, APP, siriusxm channel eighty and ESPN news. I'm Jason Fitz presented by Progressive Insurance. I'll guess join us on the Shell Pennzoil. Performance Line including my current guests sportscenter host El Dunkin and we've been talking. If you're just tuning in I, would recommend. Go listen to the podcast because we've had some great guests today, Dominic. Foxworth today grew McKay L. Dunkin and what we've been trying to do is real. Real raw honest conversations I'm trying to have the conversations. You might be uncomfortable with so l. before we went to break, you said we need help from change, and when you're talking about hope talking about specifically people that looked like me and he will need to be advocates. How can we help? What's the next step in actually helping this? Yeah, so I mean listen. There's there's a lot of resources out there available right now to people. Who are particularly interested at this particular juncture, and how they can help There's a Google document that sort of going around right now or if you google seventy five things that white people can do to help racial injustice. There's an entire list of things that pop up that I've sort of been sending to people, but I would say a great start is. I've seen a lot of people say well I always teach my children to love everybody and to to choose you know to to love people for who they are and whatnot, and that's fine, and that's good, but we should also teach. Your children is to not only not be racist to bit to vocally anti-racist, so teach your children to call it out when they see it, you know. Teach your children when they see people. Who are being when they see disenfranchised people who are being treated unfairly to call it out when they're in circles where everyone looks like them, and someone, says something, bigoted or problematic to call it out, even if it makes it uncomfortable, I would say for those of you that are professionals you know, go to your human resources department and ask if they're external message of diversity and inclusion. Actually message met actually sorry matches their internal representation I would say you know you can call your local police department and find out if it is a requirement that all police officers wear body, cams you. You can if you're a teacher, make sure that whether you've got all white kids in your class or not. The books that the toys that the dolls and your classrooms are representative of all cultures so there's a lot of different things that you can do, but honestly it really starts an engaging, so if you have a black friend that's never talked to you about what it's like to be black in America. Start there because they probably haven't approached you about that conversation for a bevy of reasons and in particular because they're waiting for you to ask, it's such a great point from L. and something. To be transparent, we've gone through his friends. We've known each other for a long time I don't know I've ever leaned on her on what I can do to be a better voice for the black community than I have. In the last week. It's made me a better person and a challenge everybody listening to do the same ask the tough questions be willing to feel stupid for a minute and really listen the response. Don't debate discuss. That's the biggest key to me in all of this is going to keep the conversation going on ESPN radio. She's been L. Dunkin I'm Jason Fitz. Thank you so much for listening. Keep asking tough questions, and let's all be better.

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Episode Twenty-One

Le Batard & Friends - Mystery Crate

55:10 min | 10 months ago

Episode Twenty-One

"They brought our good friend and hosts Safadi stugatz along to hype. This thing up below graders always good to have your voice on this show boy do we have a great show for you so get him back on the most relevant one and that's how Dylan found his new director of coffee in just a few days it's still got he's one hundred as they say I got so little feedback on it that I have no idea if it was good or bad like even this was horrible I would take from the ringer he's an NFL writer out there and we get into some NFL stuff maybe so tyler hero joined Chris and Billy Outed Heat Media Day sat down I would say Clayton Kershaw that's a great guests and we came close really tyler hero Oh maybe we thought we were just it's not that kind of drip so China's not coming up China's gun in I'm really happy that we mentioned in the second hiring can be a slow process her ziprecruiter doesn't depend on candidates finding you it finds them for you it's acknowledged identifies people with the right experience and invite them to apply to your job so you get qualified candidates it requires your feedback so if you like the interviews that we do great you're in luck we got two of them on this show not only tyler hero joining us but so as Kevin Fast Dylan posted his job on Ziprecruiter and said he was impressed by how quickly he had great candidate supply he also use ziprecruiter's candidate rating featured to filter as applicants so he could focus guys actually did this interview damage. Yeah I mean a real winner Chris Cody and Billy Gill went to Media Day and if you listen to salaciously to the last four directors of coffee work with US unbelievable what are your plans I don't know ever really thought about it yet but I did get the cafe Toro's Coo Dila wits needed to hire a director of coffee for his organic coffee company but he was having trouble finding qualified applicants so we switched to Ziprecruiter czar drip drip on the heat he explained to Alison Drip it yeah are you aware of what trip is to get WanNa get that checked out I'm for fun interview obviously this dude is taken heat twitter and basketball twitter by storm it's a crossover event people are onto this huge drip yeah we talked a lot of drip actually is sweet mystery crate you heard their unbelievable interview with Derek Jones and Kelly Olympic people are still talking about it aren't they I gotta be honest with you if we're going to keep the but I was like do I live in a vacuum where like no one hurt any of it was so confusing I never get no reaction to anything because a lot of that was and then there's a lot of people are like Oh this is awful I hate you you're the worst I've talked all that stuff right get any of that whatsoever oh I felt the opposite I got like four people that said that you're saying essentially this anything like just the act felt like I was in the you miss reaction will give us the action because mystery crate is kind of a bizarre podcast and itself GonNa talk to the entire country of China so you thought that was a good place to go so it'd be good get we're going to go to tyler hero ah here's a plan that you guys you you need to get Dylan Moskowitz on the show get him on the mystery correct well I happen to know is director of coffee get pull some strings and make it happen for you the at our web address ziprecruiter dot com slash credit that's ziprecruiter dot com slash C. R. A. T. E. ziprecruiter dot com slash crate ziprecruiter it's like that it's no wonder four out of five employers who post on Ziprecruiter get a quality candidate within the first day ZIPRECRUITER's effective for businesses of all sizes trust Ziprecruiter for free the smartest way to hire I actually had the south sessions ziprecruiter copy open by accident and I almost said the wrong web address how bad wow at least I didn't call attention to it here it is an interview about drip with the biggest name in sports tyler hero right really looked at the metrics it's one hundred percent of the people that download last night all four said it was all right and bill you miss the hatred is what you know when you look at all your heat teammates drip rankings of like on your team are you are you in the top three on the right away who else is in that top three A. J. J. J. Jon he's he's definitely he might be number one traffic around yeah all right we're joined now by cassation for the Miami Tyler Hero now four I get into the brass tacks and really hitched with the hard stuff your last names hero it's I feel like a lot of word plays can be happy with the name hero what's like the corneas like I'm sure you get I can be your hero baby like the the worst thing that I've been now we're asking all the guys about this he puts mustard on his philly cheese steaks that's not weird back like it's just like a threat any away and like contribute or do you just kind of on your way and you don't WanNa make any guarantees like that I plan to contribute right away I'm ready so we don't have it you don't have it there's not you can't buy it like I shouldn't have said drippy right that's not drip drip whose number one that I could see that house a house Gordon Strip a little different than Margaret I mean everybody has is like he's player now because he has a show I have a my best friend lives me he cooks for me Yeah your style clothes you wear and how you more of like an oral specific things just like an overall eh everyone holiday talking how they talk trash yeah I had to give back to our yeah now as far as just a hokey basketball question to sneak in right here do you expect to come in right own their own style house lasalle explain that's alison she's afraid of the cameras if she keeps running away from the camera because she's afraid of really really whole bunch you made news at the draft everyone like that the sound bite of most drip here that's Kinda like your thing whether you wanted that too you're not it's like what people have talked about a lot and I'm wondering like my trickiest thing is the brown shoes drippy thank you anything can be dripping learnings you own it where I feel like drip is something you can't really do though any decoration some food I just like straights steak and cheese I'd say so you can choose you have a chef already or now junior told us he has a chef imagine you getting him a nice or getting your mom Nice car you have to deal with what type of interior do I want to I want these features those features so what did you end up getting her got her right up avenue with me as a m breakfast and stuff like that all I need to get one of those what's the biggest MBA thing that you're doing now that you're in the league like something that now just drove it to the house and not become outside 'cause she seen it so she liked it yeah here's the thing I struggled just getting like normal birthday presents who would us about myself car car are Kinda just I had it delivered when he got it it when you guys are playing you guys go back and forth a little bit talk who's the best talker on the team I haven't really seen everybody how the Erin select a car seems like a really stressful thing for you to get on there and I'm like you know what let me get my dad like a hat like Polo shirt or something I'm like does he like blue does he laid talking about everyone kind of gets it. How would you describe like just like what your expectations are for the heat culture thing is being on time to everything being a professional and you're going and you know I'm going to get drafted today it's just a matter of where it's going to be so is it stressful because you're waiting to figure out we're GONNA play or is it like just a general fear of cameras let's see having Alison we're trying to talk to you we were talking before we're trying to explain drip she didn't understand it so she said she just wanted to talk to you about drip it we'll get like that's what I heard Jimmy bowlers press conference said that you'd like to say no other than getting drafted yeah did you have any idea you're going to be coming to the heat like that night like obviously your these team so like not really my agent so I mean I was definitely stressed a little bit yeah do you have any good John Stories like just leaks I could just be a turtle like to actually be in the league you won't be turtles I bet it's a sweeter Gig 'cause that guy doesn't have to wake up early right up and go work out he's just like no I'm making oh me that I wasn't getting drafted by the heat they said I was going to draft at fourteen so like it was it was weird and you hear everyone talk about the culture and I don't really know what the any John Calipari story for us this is a whole bunch of the guys crazy can I tell you hold I am I when I went to Umass he was the coach I've been held held to a higher standard and the rest of the teams in the league and just really just hard work what's the draft night for you because this is something you've worked for your entire life okay he will have people come in and it'll be a one and done situation and everybody knows the deal so he's kind of playing with the system so that he knows yeah calcium's just shoot it straight he's like you're here for one year then you're going to the League which has to be a cool feeling cocoa think different from all the other coaches he we spent something crazy like you know what I'm GonNa Lean I gotta get this like a car or something bubble Mama Gar as one thing I always wanted to do so I bought a Mama Car vide because you know like today my dream is GonNa come true I'm GonNa be an NBA player by the end of the night it was kind of stressful for me because I didn't know where I was going to like the twelfth picks did you say what do you think of this car here the keys I gave you the keys like I told her to come out not just gave her the keys she just drove it took post her reaction on social media? That's I know you've been working the phones throughout that entire interview but did you make any time to listen to it while you were not so busy handling director of coffee things yes wont keeps everything real with those players I'm Yuka ask all the players that succeeded what's Kentucky which is a lot you know if if he lied to you have you for one year we're going to try to have a team championship and then you're out of here the next year a lot of coaches selfishly key players around longer than they should and they'll give them bad advice and say you should stay in college a little longer it's like free yes definitely do a lot like there's a certain point where you realize I'm going to the NBA next year like what am I going to be going to you know intro to English for I'll look at all the names of the ways they use my last name kind of funny I hear I can be a hero baby superhero no yeah they have that feeling that you've had so far as a profession being able to get your mom something Yeah Rush Cayenne I just counted as some that I liked it I'll take it you think she'll tell you like it or she eggs tyler hero the best basketball player on the planet Yep die other hero is the best basketball player on the biggest star I mean he went to Ziprecruiter it really the time my life do those he he had a good team they're awesome team what's he like like because most people you know what I mean like was there like that we're like you know what it's eight o'clock in the morning I'm not going to go to this classic because what's the point every single class yeah on Mvp you know Patrick Mahomes in his first season a full play one an MVP just last year however he wasn't a rookie rookie occurred you and they're all saying no so I mean he won I think like I say he keeps it real until he doesn't need he doesn't eat anything for many of us like he he's already saying Zion veterans I on as better than I do Yup Yup the Pelicans made a mistake and you said earlier this week designs the best player in the NBA. I did say that you guys own legacy and so he's just here to help the kids that's all he wants is that why you went there because you knew this guy not lying to me this guy yeah definitely layer around one sixty nine nice who wes unseld and it wasn't just him both on sell an Wilt Chamberlain won the MVP award in the rookie of the year at that year's will help given Clark from the ringer is an NFL writer them on this week's mystery create here is Kevin Clarke from the Ringer Feeding Your Nfl addiction and hopefully we actually ask him some NFL questions now but you're willing to call it a now I'm sorry I'm sorry to bring that up any rookies that's the only way right have any rookies rookies I can listen to it but I have someone that I'm a big fan of online right now you may know him from the ringer and is slow news day video futures here behind the scenes in preparation for this interview Kevin and I found your Lincoln Okay did you know that you had Lincoln because I'm a little suspicious of the Lincoln that winning rookie of the year and you can win MVP as many times as you want that's an incredible way to look at it we could win both know you can only win rookie of the year one ever or have any rookies ever won the MVP as well probably not here yet rookie of the year and the MVP no we'll call it no maybe in the NFL should look at it just wasted time going to try something a little bit different on this week's mystery crepe usually what we do is kind of evergreen so you can go been on that program before Kevin Clark is on the line with us and we want to go through some NFL stuff and we'll get to all of that but we've been doing some research Chris Broussard and it says that he's an NBA analyst for Espn and we know that's wrong because he's not an MBA analyst so we have Kevin Clark now on the program because you know how they have like other suggestions on the Lincoln there's like a tad here where I can click Max Kellerman according to this he is a TV host telephone You know what I am going to say anything that she loves it what caller as all black I love it was nicer than say this is yours I think I tracked him down the Lincoln and it says to interesting things for US number one you hail from the Dell he's from the Dell they were hiring the best basketball player on the planet and they tyler here that the rector a basketball honestly I'd rather in rookie of the year then Mvp I think because you only get one shot what was your friend doing who cooks for you now you class like was he prepping for us to like what's what's he cooking for you and your at college you know we we had our own doc nick zone the Randy Shannon Zone I saw a lot of bad football and I I would say it was even worse than most people who went to school at big program that's a lot of people that do that I don't WanNa be argumentative but a lot of people do not know I mean like in Orlando it was like a thing different nicknames that we have a lot of people use area code for seven a lot of people use and this is a stretch and it goes back to the nineties well I will use Jam Landau for some reason Blake zeal your turtles do you ever see entourage like the Turtle Friend Years Man I need to I wish I wish one of my friends made champ Landau I also see that you attended the University of Miami during the glory days of two thousand seven through two thousand ten so did you witness actually heard that before finally he's biased because you grew up in the dough so jam Landau water is the water yeah the what was it fifty five zero the Virginia blowout game at the Orange Bowl Yep I went up to Gainesville with high hopes and then we never cross midfield I was into Patrick Nikes because I think the local stations to call jam Landau and so now ironically there it is not uncommon to hear the term jam Landau when you're in Orlando and they went through some bad years because not only was there for like two thousand eight recruiting class it was supposed to springboard to number one but people like her three years watching some awful football but mix that with hope Kevin Clarke from jam Landau here with us on the mystery APP people talk about the water in the door I did and here's what I think I think dial a hero great personality but here's what I also the better player he is going to be the rookie of the year he is flying under the radar in terms of I know a lot is it as bad as they say because I've been there a bunch of Disney and stuff and I've never really noticed it's terrible but everyone claims that it's just the worst water water worst water I've never the ship cool all right well good luck the season thanks for joining appreciate it thanks so much different type of wet if you know what I mean it it tastes like home to me terrible bad water tastes like my and I'm a huge fan of his I think he's got such a unique delivery and a unique style of delivering his NFL takes and I'm really proud to have a to Orlando to Disney or universal whatever you're going to do in Orlando the water just has like a different taste I guess and like even feel like it feels a st were still hyping it sounds like a really big program and so there was constant belief that we were ready to beat Florida ready to be Zantac whenever it was and it just never happened I spent but if you're always eating in these videos how do you decide what you're going to eat we just happen to stroll upon you all you're eating or is this very calculated the whole premise started to be believe me unless I ended up working one day in twenty years at the New York Times or something one of my favorite parts about slow news damn will probably get to some football at some point with Kevin Clark here that we were just going to read the newspaper much starbucks even though starbucks pass to do this and we were just going to talk about football and then it turned out that you guys are water elitist came to Miami did you finally realize this is there's something different about this why is this so crisp yeah that's that's the thing I realize it's different about Miami damage transit of property that's how good tyler heroes of what I say is better than Zion Williamson wins rookie of the year through all that great water here that's what I said now on your twitter bio it says that you're a Wall Street Journal alum is that like the new Harvard email address I just make fun of movies on Delta flights and I just needed everyone to know that at one point I wasn't serious journalists before I started just drinking coffee on camera so yes that will probably never the water it was it wasn't just like the incredible cultural experience and all different people and you know the great nightlife it was I said Oh my God Orlando as the dough and it's the first time I've heard that I've heard it referred to as Oh town is this the first time you've heard it referred to as the first time so there's a couple of days nobody ever wanted to eat the starbucks play the only people who have Arian foster I think was the first person to ever and that was like nine weeks into ever eat the cheese now we just learned this we learned this on the local hour we have like a really dushi caller that calls us his name is fa I mean that lovingly he referred else so I I just sorta midway through just start popping the cheese my mouth and sometimes I happen to be eating during a moment where where something funny is happening and that's so in Atlanta and it's weird because I know I know it's like a mid nineties picture Max Kellerman to it could be coincidence and then I found what's up with the dolphins and this tanking thanking him all right well yeah so it's a great question I think that they are fishing I wrote it the America there's no Marisa about the water we all know how bad it is we can't tell anybody I know I've never heard that maybe refused to it that's the thing you lost Angeles ends or the dolphins has just gotten massive difference obviously the dolphins are building our strategy around this I'd rather be the dolphins right now than the redskins are the bengals because they've got the apiece today on how on just the the amount of awful teams in the NFL and then how the Gulf between say the Patriots and the Bangles or the reds that's just going to stay there all the time is it yeah so I put that in there because I started to do some less serious stuff like slow news day where we basically like today Ryan I'm open to selling out if that's graphic yes I'm open to like some start out coffey being like here's a massive check yeah uh of this season's narrative against Brown's seems as though the media and fans alike to and the team itself spent an entire offseason sort of hyping the Cleveland Browns Heisman like for instance will one day they're just be like lunch ables on the set and that's the cheese played or are you open to maybe going to a different coffee product shape Toronto has done it before but it's mostly it's there and then halfway through I realize I'm a little bit hungry because of the time we we take like eleven with between can take advantage because I think that so much of the modern nfl the idea that you can get these guys for cheap one or rookies if you go beyond for years there is up and now everyone's absolutely reveling in the results and all of a sudden we're unsure if Baker Mayfield's good quarterback even though he is a rookie passing touchdown record everything come together in two years I you know I think that NFL rebuilds a really risky because the contracts are short careers short there's really only two or three year window and I don't think the water is not great here but maybe immune to bad water you grew up without water so that's water to you like you don't realize what the waters like but like when you're a tourist and you they were GonNa start kind of two and two to three maybe three and two because it's really hard now to get everybody on the same page with a lack of training camp practices lack of offseason training especially with the coach tons of company faces in Cleveland so I knew it was going to be a slow start there's this weird narrative going around now Baker Mayfield if somehow Johnny Mandel two-point how did it feels as though it's like bath water that I'm drinking off of someone like body job this guy's from Orlando he doesn't think it's bad why the water's fine was I mean the ability to show that much talent over half season you can't do that unless you're good there are certain mitigating factors that are like get injured or you know you know the cert- leading that just get to me no you shouldn't so first of all we kind of knew this is going to happen as far as the slow start I talked about this a couple of feel my own podcast but I predicted how it happens it is and I want to stress the dumbest show on the era that so anything happens fair food wise ones tend to notice no is this up for adverts I think there's probably a lesson to be learned in the fact that the forty niners we were hyping them up last year they didn't show much in in a couple of games than Jimmy Garoppolo gets hurt and they have a totally I'm a browns fan myself should I start letting some of these doubts that are affecting the the the take that is sort of get up and ESPN daily programing should the guys are expensive so it's really hard to turn around a rebuild like the NFL but if anybody can do it right now the team it's really really committing to it what do you mean athlete everywhere restaurant and it's like oh there's there's Shawn Marion that's boy bands in Orlando we work at the Cleveland occasionally there'll be a pro athlete here but down about it being from jam Landau so what is the best boy band that is not in sync or backstreet boys there was a litany of them in the nineties Oh boy I mean town which was manufactured out of that if you remember them right I've watched the show and even ah timken completely screw up around you but normally if you show that much talent you are a good quarterback I think at some point he'll show that form again so I think that this is oh soo gods what is the biggest interview we could have in sports right now on the mystery Craig O. on the crate for the craters they've got the CAP space they're trying to be bad you'll get a team like Washington they're not even trying to trade Trent Williams even get a first round pick there's rumors the bengals wall trade we shouldn't do this cancer culture without up and running back then so I completely agree with you we we we would not have I think that it's really interesting to me you mentioned the boy bands thousand eleven when the CPA happened so I don't think that there's there's a lot to go on with overly hype teams bring in kind of superstars overnight but you know I think the one that we or something you know just another bus on the browns you know traps heat and I think that's ludicrous if you saw them play last year and how good is released was and accurate now fishing in sports bar moment as I was walking upstairs I'm like I think that was Chris Kirkpatrick and I told everybody I told everybody guilt go downstairs and like pretend like you're going to the Susan and now before niners are breaking out like I kinda feel like the media kind of hypes up a team one ear too early maybe this is the year they're going to go nine and I felt like what are we doing here I mean the dolphins fan of the get to I remember Tunsil helped Pakistan with makeup fitzpatrick so I think that I don't necessarily know because those guys are just around in Orlando and it's kind of weird like you'll see just and it's back when I was in Orlando more background lived on the East Coast show made me uncomfortable because in twenty nine hundred show never gets me because entering the show we kind of already knew about Lou Pearlman a little bit but not enough for T. V. executives yeah no and I walked upstairs marinating on it because we locked eyes and there was like a sort of like I recognize you in ice maybe sort of walk past few out of immunity you would just c. j. all the time or like Chris Kirkpatrick there's just around it's just it's in the same way you know in Miami you just end up seeing it avenue in Cleveland and the next year they go thirteen and three maybe that's how it works out in the NFL remember nfl we don't have a huge sample because it's four basically changed overnight appears at the Cleveland or there was we had a run in with a famous boy band member I went downstairs and I locked eyes with somebody that kind of looked like someone used Kevin Clarke from jam Landau with us now being from the doe you are born into boy band Phantom knowing your age you probably know all the about their head things like number five okay range think I'm number two golf is good as it was and I think that we know their talent so I think that they figure out the line they can get to a productive season this year but maybe we're looking at twenty twenty for them Atherton confirmed this four six believed it to be capable is one of the creepiest days here like by far because there was like a steady stream of people like it was a parade if people going up and down the stairs to go to the bathroom and it was like nonstop and then when people were unsure they'd go down like three or four times in the poor guy is just like sitting at a table paying attention to Russell Wilson Anyway and should we be concerned about Patrick mahomes highlight Kiana read where for like thirty years it's been a really cool station as the MVP favourite while he's just doing the same stuff that he's done since they started having to pay him instead of other people so what do you make of now the nation at large finally the on the money so Patrick Mahomes got injured the last game and it kind of made me uncomfortable watching it because he looked genuinely hurt but then is on but because of that bad performance and they were held it's really back to back like non Patrick mahomes performances now Russell Wilson has sort of entered the jack or five with the F. in five replaced by the actual number five I would say five what was the ban that had when the rebrand as a boy band member like a lot of it was wearing like sweater vests with no shirt underneath there was a lot of that amongst it on his instagram page that he goes around with Nicklaus Shea performing instinct songs I mean Nicholas say what is he yeah you can look on Joey fatone instruments people who went to my high school before I got there because they wanted to just sort of latch onto an old town type ad I was angered the other day seeing that Joey fatone post not everybody generation above me so they'd be like I don't know like if they were in high school and Middle School I would say a good sixty percent of them and you have the added Bonus of Oh we'll dip into the ninety eight degrees catalog to such that it is I've got Chris Kirkpatrick being the one with the android that screws up the group text making green does he have tattoos on his ankles because the guy downstairs has tattoos on his ankles confirm though he did have tattoos on his angels and the Google Image Search confirmed all of that so lights go out was that take five or five ooh baby when the lights go I think it was five okay yeah when the lights go out with five but with the number five and then Jalan just sort of jumps out and it's like okay I think I would take an Patrick Mahomes if he were actually on crutches but could still just throw the ball and yeah he doesn't respond everybody has one person in the group tax it's just sort of checks out but they need to get their money and they own the royalties this song so like why not go out there and perform it food and then like the last five years we're like hey check out Kiana read like people just didn't appreciate him until just short while ago and that Kinda Russell Wilson I thought the sink trying to get their money you know every year someone fires off the Group Tax Hayes this year that we get back together and justice just adding it in the group that now he's there he's the only one that doesn't respond food and wine festival and they had a surprise appearance by Joey fatone who came out on stage and performed by while the rest of ninety eight degrees Kinda sang in the featuring Chris Kirkpatrick and Ryan Cabrera Wow I once saw Ryan Cabrera Dj set at the Bellagio and grab night Joey fatone situation Kevin if you're interested so it turns out ninety eight degrees was performing it eat to the beat the concert series that's going on at Epcot background and by the way if you're back at Otani at any point this concert series sugar ray was there who else is your Kenny g's their oud they're doing shows where they're doing by its Nicholas Shea up there it's like what is going on that's happening in Iraq too like liquidating to has the guy from alkaline trio no with Otani but I was so bothered by probably their biggest hit because they rhymed all with all no you can't Ryan there were a lot of problems with the boy Van Eras but I I will say are nice is Mardi Gras at universal still going on and that's one of the underrated one I saw I saw Mario Lopez he's he's definitely a one a one B NBC candidate with mom I don't mean to veer away from the football talk but I did some research on his ninety eight degrees band now and it's just easier things two thousand two that would have just blown my mind and now it's just normal everyone's just trying to get paid time well you can't fault the other members of is named for tone and if you break it up it's fat one what is your being from Jam Landau Kevin what is your favorite seasonal theme park attraction is at Halloween former broncos defensive end Neil Smith having a leak time it was like nineteen ninety nine he was riding high and he was just having an amazing they have a food and wine type festival going on so like even when food and wine is done right Christmas time they have like a Christmas festival and it's Ah Man October Eighteenth through October twentieth I thought eat to the beat would just be the name of Joey fatone store he has a hot dog chain called fat ones 'cause a lot of these guys in the Seattle team and you didn't get enough individual credit because there were just too many good players and guys like Bobby Wagner it wasn't until they were alone probably hot right but the last two weeks that's when everybody goes to the lines are insane so flower festivals basically food and wine except there's lots of flowers lots of greenery there's a gotTa get the annual passes and let it fly right but then epcot trots out like that flower festival here's the thing that I've learned about at no matter what time you go to epcot during the year todd rundgren dot com genre would always cap it off the Mardi gras was good Halloween harness as good the Christmas stuff at Disney always late I mean it's real murder as well Marino went on Lardy gras universal studios the king of Mardi Gras one year not not like the unofficial king the guy who was just having the best time I've ever seen is act on earth is minimal at best because they're in the cocoon and then they become butterflies and like two weeks later that's it they're dead thank you appreciate your life I mean party girl he was he was really living up I was dead Mardi Gras is also in the epcot food and wine zone as far as just random acts like you'd see your smashmouth it makes me think I'd actually be more productive like I've lived probably I'm thirty two I've lived close to I'm not even to do the math let's just say like six hundred if you wait like two weeks there's another Christmas themed food and wine going so like if I go to that flower fast it's like a low key secret food and never been oh yeah no I actually I lower festival because food and wine now the way things are it's so hot for the majority of food and wine that you really only want to go like the last two weeks of food and wine or it's like unbear- The people realize how good Bobby Wagner was once going to boom was gone so I think that that's so hard to isolate those teams and now we're starting to appreciate how good Russell Wilson is I is the The master of ceremonies Mardi Gras parade there on your you know that was a huge magnet for NFL players because it was in March and so I met Dan Marino there and that Oh okay so I actually went to Glorious Stefan's Nieces Kenyatta and John Cicada was the one performing that night wow Wilson I thought I sent him quarterback in Twenty fifteen and you know that ebbs and flows and I think my home says more talent now but I think that he should win the MVP mahomes has exactly the same as who didn't want except there's maybe like ten less kiosks but there's still the same lines it's still the whole thing so everybody goes to food one like I need to go to food and wine before we one one time enjoy Lawrence Joey or Joseph Lawrence remember he wanted to be all professional yeah are you hold on are you familiar with Kingston yet does they pressurize it and then you go in you've never been like now but this is this is like what he's describing this is kind of like I'm not exactly like that so there's little change and stuff like that so the butterflies fly garden that's delightful that you can go to a butterfly garden but if my name immediately changing my tune on this one out that's a tough hypothetical but I'm glad that people are appreciating the talent you know it's funny I I I talked about this a couple of years ago he said that he thinks that the little like they have the two doors now it's like it's like chains that go down like like metal beads needs to be like outbreak where one door down here in Miami are you familiar with that show the fat guy in the skinny woman is the name of the show it's a show that kind of A Christmas Carol or something like that and you go I saw John Takata do it when when you start seeing the seedless ones I've heard rumors that some of super famous people like Paul McCartney and John Bon Jovi they will tell people when they go to weddings and stuff like please don't make me go surly suit him we're putting maybe the best situation for young quarterback ever with Andy Reid giving him the schemes to get guys open out Smith Tutoring Lilia Stefan is should be Lilia Stefan is also glorious Stefan's niece and she's the Co host of guerrilla block I don't know if you're familiar with that and and I did not anticipate that being a previous curriculum bring it up next time I don't even answer the full question he's going to ask you just say hey will I heard about the Kingston. Tonight's gotten elite wait hold on hold on a second hold on a second where on November twelfth through fourteenth at eat to the beat Joey fatone and friends tape butterflies by the way Kevin I don't know how you feel about this data live very sad lives because they only exist well they only exist for such a short time like their impact cam getting to sit for a year like Russell Wilson were put in that situation he would do the had the exact same numbers homes and maybe a little better I I can't fan of the northern and Western European I think that the Norway ride with my favorite thing in all of Abkhaz as far as that circle goes and in your times are there I will say they used to have one Disney underrated thing is they used to have really really see pluck celebrities read did you ever do Grad Grad night I did not graduate was wild I think you're I was there I forget the cigarettes I did not do it start in Mexico or Canada but someone told us about the special back entrance that just drops you off in France which is just like when it started in the ninety s was more appropriate at that time like they interviewed people in hot tubs I get crazy Spanish Tele Vanish TV ten ordos drop some pounds not GonNa be a fun experience for you but billy part of this whole attack strategy is you have lunch at the Hibachi plates in Japan and it soaks up all the booze and then you can go continue throughout and what you I'd like to start with the Basic Tequila early in the morning because you know you you can't start from beer liquor before beer you're in the clear had a catalog yeah or you can go back to the mystery archives I believe we spoke to him only about that for like twenty minutes before we let you go Kevin Clark of the ringer and Slow News Day in England where it says like no team colors outside the pub Oh wait a second maybe they're just trying to be authentic I last time I did this for my wife's thirtieth birth yeah that will cain used to run at Kingston Empire there's some confusion he claims that he didn't actually plan them I claimed that he does but he ran a magazine slash catalogue of like Kingston Yeah so that's reaction we're looking for Kevin I I was wondering that same thing to be honest with you I'm like come on this is your needs and I don't know if you're familiar with Lilia stuff the band I've I've heard that like secondhand sometimes it's just like really really famous musicians I tell the band and people getting married like don't don't do that the world and really attack the UK because you KS one of the more fun ones although a Satan no chance whatsoever no sports team chance and try not to wear it like Philipson nostalgia for that so I'm just going to drink heavy heavy beer from those sort of Scandinavian western European countries I only drink beer and that's my point of attack what about you yeah I think I thought Gary sinise on a calendar there one time and what I saw it on the calendar too I never actually saw him though I think Jodi sweeten was doing what's your favorite I'm actually a fan fast have ruined this whole notion and the entire things been devalued but I loved waiting in the line and having to watch a special programming dedicated to those people waiting in the line because I think it really gets your mind into you are writing the movie so like in for example yeah a when you drink around the world at Epcot and this is very this is very important where do you start what's your tax strategy you know I'm a huge any like UCF because they don't want any like fight starting at the bar and if you start talking about sports you're likely to do so what that's like what they have it yeah he has but he's going to be the thing where he started ballooning back up again sort of like the Rex Ryan did you ask you I don't think they've changed it they can't change the name of show I think contractually he has two ways tip you have to remember Wolf was put in a pretty bad situation yet Brian Shaw members off coordinator Pete Carroll had coach they they wanna play their brand football doesn't free tickets so yeah they're not aware of that party that thing where you tossed the coin over your shoulder in Italy for the mount because it can't be a lock right precisely your thoughts I think this is this is great I've heard by the way why Gordon may not have performed like you have to suspend disbelief because if you're in really long line you're like wait a second this is supposed to be a live news program and I've seen this part already yeah I really it was awesome because it smelled great somehow I'm going to bring back dueling dragons because I never understood why the line was just so quick well it would because to roller I'm not sure if it's true it's never true also is wondered why the same new cycles like they cycled through multiple times in line yes sometime yeah that would really things are like suckering you'll they can go to theme parks for free if I just paint my faith Joe Gay jokes on them I get content for a lifetime of them dress like a panther princess and you also get they were doing so rad I know but they got lazy Kevin they got lazy though because the whole appeal the dueling dragons was that at one point Mister Toad wild ride perhaps really I also yeah I also kind of like King Kong which is now like what the fafsa furious or something yeah kin ars we're excuse I mean it was not this was not the high point of music history so you're gonna you're gonNA come through all the lyrics melodies there was a really bad crap about are you going with bb I am because I was like wow Johnson's Andrea there. Laurie was there and Amelia was there all the stuff yeah no she didn't perform lasting on continue this before we go back to football whatever did luck in the fake fountain I mean it's never done that I've never done that you consider yourself lucky person could be complete honest with you I do I think about the if your local at cotton might be the worst place to go to like I want I am a bigger fan like islands of adventure if you're a teenager is by far the best wait because go straight to the front I thought Eddie Murphy on doing dragons like twenty years ago you did not no yeah it's an affront before channing Eddie Day and I felt really embarrassed dizzy employed doing this but we got escorted out by people that work in civilian clothes and it wasn't my fault it was my brother-in-law he was out of control and I also did the thing hey I'll pay for your ticket if you're letting me paint your face in any fashion that I choose from an princess often do you do that because you told the story yesterday that you did that to someone addresses a leopard like it seems like your friend East coaster that's not uncommon I remember I used to go to espn the weekend because I was obsessed with with the when I was a teenager and you see all the thing the thing is though if you started candidy catch the Marty short flick that they have going on and it's very dizzying so if you're too drunk by the time you get there it's is was the best one ride would innovator here they would just have like a fake long island news cats being like there's been some sharks but everything's GonNa be fine and Pluto's autograph and then you have someone waiting in line for Chris Berman's autograph yeah and then they had a bunch of like random people like Eric Dickerson just there point both rollercoasters with time out and you'd see the souls of other people's feet and then they just like we don't care anymore we've checked out on this we spend way too much money on the whole line no one even gets to enjoy kind of ways you can go about it and if you have a passing go and certain things I don't remember being with my friends and seeing rapper Stewart we L. Ravages name and he gave a very nice hello don all of these guys all the anchors and stuff skipping the line and you get all jealous remember Carl Ravitch gets the line can skip any line really that's just matty rolls it didn't happen water flies by now but I'm sure it feels like a long day it's a lot more well no I think it's like two weeks Kevin I didn't work it's thanks reporting out just said who would you pay I think the answer is out Aaron Rodgers probably a themed things that you can get I don't know how to respond to this I've got under Wilkin show a handful thirty totem pole though running into Eddie Murphy Dueling Dragons one time I saw the Indiana Jones stunt spectacular and Mr Yagi from karate kid was just answering there were you on the same hand we were waiting to get on and he was he was in the front row going forward Eh crushing vacation clothing during his Glenn Course Raymond's great button down shorts I remember that much over there yeah it was Kinda like that I was just I watched so much. Espn God look at Brian. Kenny I think you have the top of this don't you I'd imagine that that must have been so weird for people that were there because obviously Disney has like these like Disney wasn't shut down for the weekend so you have the little kids are getting in line to get like did he have like a cardboard Kevin did win Sao Paulo was walking around I imagine he had a cardboard cutout of the Philadelphia Eagles Training facility behind them is the only way that I can picture be espn the weekend I do I would like harrap store in front of me what line to skip I don't remember I just remember there too. Tabloids got her coming down splash mountain and it became like the biggest photo of the year because they one of the photographers like they're hiding Disney's hiding princess di from us but we nations yeah yeah he was like they had them up there and they always have the plant and it's gotten so predictable especially now when you go watch it because no one wears Hawaiian shirts and obviously anchor my brain was so broken back down that I was more excited to see anybody who's ever appeared on twelve I was just like whatever it was sixteen seventeen and I was like Oh my God God Linda Conan more famous than Eddie Murphy you're right He was at the pinnacle of the start of back then so like the big thing when I was growing up with the princess more and the plains always like dress tourist but a tourist from the mid nineteen ninety s that's pretty good I'm trying to think if there's anything else even for family members I don't know I mean obviously did sing at all if that's considered I don't remember that happening I just remember Johnson hot at the time he and many so why don't you ever see mice it would be a hotbed for mice at Disney how awesome are they at eliminating vermin and the rumor is and coasters I mean that's my and that's got to bring a lot of time he hasn't to adults who enjoy the alcohol and apparently the butterflies wherever you guys are into is put on like a hat that said Florida why is that because you can't ruin the magic of Disney when all these other mascots around there you can't they have to be real all the very important to them it's just like if you watch college Game Day right did you notice what happened with Lee Corso when he made a selection he picked Florida right he didn't put on the cater head Ba key I see there you go Chris Aaron Rodgers did you see any. ESPN employs walking around that giant like Turkey leg I don't think so I remember Sal Paol has I've Seen Ryan gosling speak on this he sort of obsessed with the Disney cats that at night Disney releases like sort of like these mutant cats that are just absolute killer. I'm doing a standup outside of the mushroom kingdom looking like training facility yeah I I I'm trying to remember because it was what it was the first one it must've been like thousand I went to Disney and her children

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"The Pantheon" - The Power Trip [FULL SHOW]

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Tiny person ask. A whole. Body trade. Words are in the House feel ridiculous. The other animals. We're trying little people. Louis Freeh House. The morning show! It is Wednesday June. Third of two thousand twenty. I'm cory. There's Paul Meat Sauce Lambert. There's Zach halverson no press hockey today, Chris out the rest of the week. I. Don't know if he's driving right now. Or if he was driving yesterday the way he'll be back on Monday. Good morning guests. Hey, Corey, how are you? I'm great. Thank you for asking I'm glad to see you as top of the morning a Mr Gulf Zach. Are you disappointed Iran? where, but you are like loving. Riot in protest coverage. But Yeah Bird. You're not loving that it's happening, but you're loving covering era. You've had a lot of fun covering on social media monitoring it. Yeah, I mean yeah. The last couple nights been peaceful. Peaceful. LE. Station I play I got some sleep last night so. It's been nice because I mean it started last week where I I came into work and I didn't have any sleep because it literally happened up until the the show starred even afterward. I mean there are still fires burning as we're driving in, but this week has been. Fairly quiet. It's getting quieter in the twin cities and getting louder in other parts of the country out. I mean. Was it Tuesday night? No, that was the last thing Monday night. I turned on care eleven. I just turn the TV on and happen to be on care lemon. Because that's the channel. We were watching we and I'm like heightened this. This is weird like I was expecting that it would just be randy and. Yeah doing. What regular TV? What's happening but? You know. Yeah. Regular TV and whatnot. Was Weird to see. But I'm glad you know yes good. It's turned around. Yeah, correct. Lot of peaceful protests going on. We're not sure yet are are. Absolutely in going, keep doing that. No more bricks through windows. No, don't do that. so hawks out today, but Marnie Geller is going to be in-studio from seven o'clock until nine. Have so many questions for her. She's in a weird spot. But what if the NBA comes back in the wolves are one of the teams. Don't write. It would've baseball screws this up right to source main sources of income. The wolves twins on. Are. GonNa screw this up for our Gal. Which means we get more Marnie break because she's basically A. Rescue dog until yeah. Yeah until she's employed again but I. Want to get back to work, they get. Their voting on it tomorrow. The NBA is on this the format that they came up. We have a board of Governors for twenty two team, basically format or whatever it is. And what Baseball Place Fifty Games? That means mearns probably only working for my. July of soup timber if she works at all right ever heard fear is yeah. You Look TV broadcast. Even have a sideline quote reporter yeah. I'm nervous for our gal soccer at seven o'clock. Somebody that couldn't care less because he's not a huge fan of women in sports. Mark Rosen Abi here at about seven forty I'm A. Huge Fan of women well yeah, but he doesn't like them. dealing with sports coverage sports journalism succeeding yeah. I think he's got the AC slater approach. Yeah that's his bid. Nobody else. Yeah! Right so Marnie at seven Rosie at seven forty. That's basically today. You're telling me for the the show. Sort of you're watching a new documentary so last night. this say we situation again or a usage. They are watching channel eleven now. Last documentaries lady and we have here lovebirds Why won't you say your first name? Everybody knows you have a lady friend now. Why can't we know her first name? We're not haven't even told me her first name off air. But the first letter of remained. No Oh come on, can. Guess it. Can I have twenty six guesses. You can have five. I can only have five. If I get the first letter out of the five. Will you tell me the rest of her name? Yeah, really. Q. I. You. Know. What no got one left. He. Took my best wing I appreciate it so you and your lady friend or watching documentaries? You're watching channel eleven. Then what happens so? We were watching Netflix in. I don't know what was that we. A, while back. Haley recommended this her name Haley. Recommended this documentary on. NETFLIX's called trial by media and it's. It's I think it's I. Don't know how many episodes it is, but each episode is a different case so like and it's. They get no J.. I don't know yet. I haven't watched. We only watch the above John Wayne Bobbitt. I'm an seen that yet, but the one they get into last night. Is the first episode of it is an episode about. How trash t back in the day and Gotcha TV like Jenny Jones and all that stuff. Loved it sane nineties garbage talk shows. It's all the same format, but they all remember even even oprah did that kinda garbage bag day off Oprah Donahue. Some were worse than others. Right Jenny Jones mantell Williams Maury Povich. Springer, area. But they saw it basically starts out with. It was an episode about. Do you have a secret crush on someone in? Do you WanNa? Come on TV and tell them. Is the gay bid right? Yes, I never knew. Remember was a big deal never knew about it. Yeah, he killed him after Tapie. Yes, we went outside to see this show for embarrassment. He thought that. They that he that this woman was going to tell him a secret crush. Turn out with this other guy. And then it went into this whole bit about how like? His father was so against that it just it was so weird. I remember that. Idea man, so wait a minute, though if you have a lady friend over and we are watching a documentary. were. We even paying attention. It sounds like you just know the bullet points. Time do your best job of summarizing the entire first episode you're. You're off to a good start. What's the rest of it? Have you seen it? Nice when I know how much we learned. Then there was this looking okay lawyer. We weren't watching. We work I own. We weren't we were. Sounds like we had our minds somewhere else because it seems like. This lawyer, Guy. But. No. Yeah any got. The Guy got something right, Yep. Are you go into the mall later No. Is One of the worst secret keepers in the world. He literally has not even told us her name off. The air to two people know carly and Rosie senior. ooh, sloppy seconds for sauce, or what not that? Crash so yeah, it's. It's a good documentary. You introduced her to mark before you introduced her to me or I. Don't trust you and hot. Why because? I just don't. I mean I do. I trust you guys in my life but I. Know. You feel like she would have a better chance of explaining his documentary than did probably yeah. But but even if we was I, and it was the royal, we just me. He is I am I am him. It still would have been you know it still would have been the same description. That is very true. You could be locked onto that show, and it would have sounded the exact same right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I'm distracted by her arm distracted by anything any anything my guess is reading. Comprehension was one of your workforce literally the word I was horrible at it. You read, but then Yeah Oh. What did you just read it? Yeah, it was really bad. It was one of my yeah. I'm here today. You once said. I failed my way up. Failed to the top yeah. Not Bad thank you very much and now your failures are part of the reasons why we're on top. Thank you very much. Yeah, it's fun to make fun of you. which is great and I mean I shouldn't say you. It's fun to make fun of we. Now we about we Zach, aren't you excited for we? Always do looking pretty good right now, couiza. Area. No we. Always, sleeping, whereas we sleeping my bad. Times they are. A changing. What's that Bob? Dylan Song. Tangled up in blue. One! That's good tune. I don't know Dylan very well. Yeah, shelter from a store. No! Times they are a change in that. Bob Dylan Song I. Don't even know if it's done. Sang that Song Oh. times like the now. They foo fighters. I'm of the season Great Dune. It doesn't matter. I'm so excited for we. Thank you, Corey. You think Marnie is going to be except for we too. Because we talked about this a couple of weeks ago and the after Party podcast That's I think we did place. Bets on your your future wedding. Because you said you weren't GonNa married, and you may not, but Marnie said you're a romantic and I think. You probably are very romantic. When we are watching documentaries I would think so yeah, only Liga blankets we'd art. Glass of wine, so we. Talk like that. But yeah. I'm very kind. Sounds like in your head when you're watching documentaries about media coverage during trials. I think this is the only song in the soundtrack to that documentary. Friends and Dr. WanNa keep watching channel wondering less Lucia Canary. South like. Julian Rainier on, DVD. Titans Games I'm just saying. It was weird to turn on it. Not I mean it's good that the peaceful protests are continuing but. I'm glad we don't need to go to wall-to-wall coverage on all the other stuff. Did we find the riot coverage interesting or were? We did busy doing other things while the while coverage of your own you. Yes, we! We stayed up Friday night to watch a lot of it. Yeah. Yeah why who cares just sleep number two sixty nine. One her name is. Maybe I'll tell you. If you're nice to me. Me Off the. It's one of two things, either. You just don't want us to say her name because she just doesn't want to be like on this show yet. Part of the content or her name like Bork, poor edges, something weird. We're out, of bork license plate alien. It's just like that's your girlfriend's name is. Bor I duNno raves. Does something weird yeah. Grimes. Whatever the kids is! Somebody! Who would date grimes yeah. Good point I don't care what her name is. She's hot. But what if you're ladies? Friend's name was grimes sure. If it was bork. Yeah, it'd be fine. I don't what their name is. Comes bork sauce. Call you or saw? Couple name. ORCs yeah. This grinds. Bring me, the horizon featuring rights. I didn't know she was an actual. Art I. Don't know it sounds like at all. She's with the Elon Musk good for her. Tesla's for life To huge perk! She made like seven, hundred and seventy million of options. That stock doesn't quit. What is this this? Is. I! Don't know the Mir that lights they're. All Bad. This is on the same album as mantra. Is. Terrible. This is hideous yet. Yeah. About! All right. This this. That'll bring me the horizon concert that should open with mantra play at fourteen times and go home. They are so much better than just mantra. You people. Wow You, who? That was a bad example. Great tune. We'll, we'll come back. We'll do front page sports you the bottom of we before nine o'clock. Nicely till morning her name. Know why? You. Don't think Barney's the secret keeper you're on the. South, tell Marnie. I'll probably tell you off. The air is like legit. We look this boyfriend girlfriend kind of labeling moment, are we? Are we technically in a relationship now? Sports is next power money on the fan. Big. Fan. I. It's borderline criminal. HOW LITTLE! We played royal blood on this show in the last couple of years. We went away from them big time why they rock! Sure, good choice. Thank you. Royal Black or royal black royal blood, heavy day out of the black and royal blood at the same time. So, Hunter Hall. WHO's talking about? Gals that you gated with weird names, not you just people in general and your data Gal with a weird name. Does that throw you off? It shouldn't. Reminded him of the story that Guy From Katie WB like fifteen years ago, sixteen years ago. Tried to hook me up with a Gal that he claimed was a model like. And then her name was Susanne, which is my mom's name so I can't even I can't data. Can't date somebody named Susanne. That's that's too weird can't do it so I never met her. I said no, which is probably dumb, right? If she was a model. Yeah, I should have I never thought even what she looked like was like can't do it can't do it can't do it. Is Their name on the planet that you wouldn't date because of a relative. Now I. Okay, I get. You don't have to write. Everybody understood. But you wouldn't. That even that name, the whole know. What if new GAL had that name? Know. What's that's dumb? Act Crossover Yeah exactly I wouldn't care. But what about your mom's name? Your sister's would it be weird to be no, no watching Netflix's and home. All Weird. Just wondering what if that is her name? It's not. It might be. How we have I just guessed that. You did. Really. Know. That would be amazing. What if your new GAL's name was? Sue like your mom. Are there a lot of sues? Like. In our generation like name, assume that you know that's under fifty years old. Down the hall Thompson Oh yeah. She's way under fifty. Yeah! She's not down the hall right now. No one works for us. Yeah. Like. WHO's the hottest Gal on the planet to you right now? Name One. Lady that Ben, Affleck's with. She's pretty hot on the. Pretty trick question. You should have said you knew Gal but Hopefully. She's not listening no I. Just listening to. Just told her that she's not even close to the hottest girl on the planet that Ben. Affleck scales significantly hotter than she is tough break Kelly. or Sue. Whatever the hell her name all right, it's for front page sports and it's brought to you by right. Words, presented by Ryan to Siga criminal. Defense is Rights Act right over there, right? The NFL camps will only be at team facilities, which is not a big deal because the vikings are only at their facility now right they move the hell out of Mankato's so because of the corona virus in. They're trying to live at a limit travel. The nine teams still hold camps at different sites are going to be forced to hold it at their own team facilities. Dallas and Pittsburgh still scheduled as of now for the Hall of Fame Game August Sixth in Canton. According to the story I, read yesterday the only team. It's a really really weird spot is the Vegas Raiders. And, I don't. Quite understand. Why is there facility in Henderson or something? Not Ready? The. Guests that would yeah I mean. Will they go back to Oakland? Think that's the thing that I. I don't quite get it. I think that's kind of what the story was saying. Most of them are still there. Maybe they haven't fully moved yet. Because the facilities not ready, I'm not sure, but the story I read just basically said the raiders are the one team that's kind of in a weird spot. Everybody else has to stay at their own all cities. IS IT Bishop Gorman! High School they even that is up to I bet, and even though it's a lot of NFL alumni kids of alum of NFL players that have played there. I bet that's not even up to two NFL standards that they couldn't even hold their training camp there. So it's gotTa be an NFL style facility. Maybe maybe if UNLV canceled their season, I don't know I don't know. Hall of Fame Bullets Star Wes unseld died at age seventy four lengthy health issues in colluding recently pneumonia finals MVP in one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, eight. That is the only title in team history. I had forgotten about this, but I remember this. When when we had him here with timber but Kevin, love's middle name is Wesley After Wes unseld because his dad played with them, I didn't know that. So, Kevin, Powell is little tribute to Wes unseld. Yes, well I never knew that I didn't know this either. Check this out ESPN DOT COM, said this stat. about Barclay may have been in the mix for this I guess according to ESPN stats and Info West on sold at six seven. Had Thirteen thousand, seven, hundred sixty nine career rebounds most ever by a player, six, eight or shorter. I would would would what do you think Rodman is Zach? I think he's six nine or six ten. About six nine. You don't even listening meat. Sauce Junior. Six seven Rodman six seven. Oh, then he would have the most rebounds. Are you listening to the dude story? POSSIBLE ESPN had that wrong. wrote down word for word what they wrote. I wonder if they had it wrong. ESPN stats and Info. Because isn't partly like six Arkley six. How many rebounds at Barclay have did he have more than thirteen, thousand, seven, hundred, sixty nine? Wasn't need the round mound of rebound. That was his nickname yeah. Should we get to the bottom of this, or should we not care while you're looking that up? I have something that Adam. Schefter just tweet go. There's no official announcement according to Adam. Schefter and discussions are ongoing. But multiple people expect that the next time NFL player shop at team training facilities will be four. Training camp whenever that begins. All right. By the way here it is on. ESPN DOT COM unsettled. Thirteen, thousand, seven, hundred, sixty nine career are the most by a player, six, eight or shorter, according to ESPN, stats and Info, so they're going with it. Are we disputing that I. Doubt They're wrong. Well. How many rebounds is it? Thirteen, thousand seven sixty-nine. Most by players, six, eight or shorter, according to ESPN stats, information. Charles Barkley had. Much. Stats are tough to even. It might be right. Rodman is six seven, but has eleven thousand, nine, fifty four. I don't really care, but we're going it. I think I think they're right looking for Barclay. What's Barclays number four, five, four six good yeah. Yeah what about? What about statue? We have Oliver Miller stats. Big, Oh, yeah. Oh, he was six nine, though Ooh that sucks, it's too bad. And he did have two thousand eight hundred ninety three career rebounds. You remember the rumor I heard about him while he was here that he was a pimp that yeah he basically gals on the side would. Selling the people. Might be the wrong term, but wren beam. JEEZ! I wonder if that was true and I wonder if I should say on the air if not hundred percent sure is out at, but you've set multiple times. I heard that rumor multiple from different people, said it. That's the last time I think you were at the last year at Wolves, game is when Oliver Miller was on reason opener two years ago. It's at least tad. When did Ricky Rubio plan this team? Two thousand ten. Saw Ricky play. Yeah, that's the last game at. A hotel was Karl Anthony, towns like six to. I think so yeah. Haven't been to A. Wolves again in a while I don't remember. You've never seen him play for. The last. Two years ago, it was the season opener I didn't think it was a seasonal Brendan a preseason game against the box. We just wanted to go see Ricky Rubio. Play, and that's the last game you were out. was like two thousand ten. You weren't even been there. Ten Years Love the timber. Wolves sounds like not right I've been dating Angie. You're married Angie for ten years. We've been a wolf games. There's zero chance. Not We want. You, wait. I. Didn't know you did that. Speaking to the NBA there twenty two team model would be starting July thirty first Orlando Possible. Finals game. Seven would be October twelfth, so that's the time line. July thirty first through October twelve. Where's the wolves will be out? They'd be one of the eight teams would not come back board of Governors voting tomorrow. At least the the expectation is that what would be tomorrow? So. Think about it again. This is what when. WE THOUGHT ALL THIRTY TEAMS HEADING DOWN TO ORLANDO, and that it would be a true kind of house arrest quarantine where they're on lockdown. They go to the hotel. They go to the practice practice facility they the game. That's it. And we were talking about. Think about if you are A. Timber, Wolf and you have nothing to play for. You just can't get hurt right. Yeah, don't have a significant career altering injury. You're down there for six weeks bored out of your mind. Yes, and we're talking assistant coaches, coaches, personnel, whatever the traveling group. That's going to be allowed. All of them would have no access to family friends. You're not going out your. You're on house arrest for six weeks. But if you're the wolves, if they would have been a part of this, you would have known at least I. Know exactly what we're going to be done because we're mathematically out, yeah. If you are the Lakers clippers, the Celtics. If you're a team that could go the whole box threat the box. You're saying. Wait a minute. You're telling me I GET DOWN TO ORLANDO. Couple of weeks before this right right because the season would start July leading. Out of the country I have be here right weeks prior, so you're! You're telling me. I got to be in Orlando sometime early to mid July. In on lockdown until October like that is think think of all of us had about three months of stay at home, but we went to target or whatever right or a grocery store. Couple of US like we. We went to work. We got out. You can go for a walk. They're not gonNA. LET NBA players walk the town. Yeah, we watch Netflix. I think that's going to be about all. They're going to be allowed to do, but just not as A. we yeah just as a I. Lot of online gaming for those basketball player online a lot of. All of these guys in the NBA. All these guys are professional sports. They do what not even not whatever they want, but they have the means to do whatever they want. So what do they do after the Games in a regular? Let's say let's say. The regular season picked up in October. If you live in a sunny area, but so you play basketball Miami. You can play at night. A day off the next day you go play golf. You have to sit in a hotel room and not every hotel room in this area is a sweet and the Karl Anthony towns is in in the. They're going to want to get out of there. Those are the guys with the sweets, but the fourteenth. It's going to be like college again except you can't leave. There are bigger problems in his garage on old right now in the last week across the country, but man, these people are going to be bored out of their minds and hissed. And Cute, but for the health of the League for their for their paychecks, their bank accounts pretty important by the way, this is so rand, but Oliver Miller's wikipedia pages still up on the computer in front of me. While you were talking, I was mostly board, so I started. Reading. The Oliver Miller wikipedia page, check this out. I forgot that he was temporarily with the whole globetrotters. You'll like this. He Meat Sauce did. In December in two thousand one. After, another brief term with the Harlem Globetrotters, Oliver Miller was released for showing quote, no appreciation for what it takes mentally and physically to be a Harlem globetrotter. Don't care. He made sauce it. He Meets Austin. Came back to the wolves in o-3. Oh four despite being listed at three hundred fifteen pounds. That is a huge. Point! As a huge bit at what was that statement? He didn't have the all male appreciation for what it takes mentally and physically to be. A Harlem Globetrotter told that a lot. Of Vikings linebackers Eric Kendricks an Anthony Barr denounce the NFL statement over the death of George Floyd. They, said quote. They've all tweeted his by the way quote at NFL. What actual steps are you taking a support? The fight for justice system reform. Your statement to said nothing you're. League is built on black athletes. Vague answers do nothing. Let the players know what you're actually doing, and we know what silence means all the NFL teams Washington. With their name is an issue, they did the blackout thing The niners did the blackout on Social Media the NFL statement. All of the groups that have had opportunities in the last handful years to step up and do. Something got hammered yesterday when they tried to say. We support it everybody that. They haven't over the last four or five six years or whatever. Just drilled them. Was it read the tweeted forty niners I thought it was blackballed or whatever right yeah. Dicey yesterday on social media. That will do it for front page sports when we come back. Zamora ridiculousness including sauce. You have a list of. This weird movie thing that went kind of read at a ridiculous fake movie. Facts that have been trending online and a lot of them are funny. So yesterday we did the. Half take from three or four years down. The explain a film plot badly, which was great, good bit. Then, this goes viral on Reddit fake movie facts, and if you're like well them if they're fake, what's the? Big It's. It's more for the jokes. Yeah, it's funny. A lot of people trying to be funny. We'll tell you what those are right after this in the Marnie Gallon or forty five minutes from now on the power of Joe on the fan. The Fan. Su Said Daddy. Through. To absolutely plus concerts in the last couple of years in the twin cities, one at the target center twenty one pilots. Don't worry. What Brian thanks on believable live two guys. I've said this so much energy before so much. Fun this guy, cover. This guy's name Ben No. It's Tyler Gosh Tyler. This guy is a cover of a song that I really really like it's unbelievable. How good it! What's the cover? It's Damien rice song called nine crimes, and he does a cover of it and it. It just piano. It's one of the better covers of all time. And that's how good it is. You know the song because it's. Damien rises like a singer songwriter from Ireland. And he had a couple like he had a couple of okay songs that charted, but the cover that this guy does of this is unbelievable. To break down this list. This is it this is the actual song. Is the cover of the original visit cover. Four. It's UNBELIE ME. Away. It's the wrong. Way. thinking. It's the wrong. Somebody. A. Gun No. Excuse that. Doesn't sound familiar at all. Recognize the course or not. I mean it was on cities a little back in like. Oh, seven, zero nine. But it's I think it's stunning. It's just. A great job. Gone. You leave me. This is not. It's the wrong. On you. It's. Through. Salah. You. Parker. You don't suit. If I took a couple days and figured it out. This doesn't sound Garard. Put this guy's voice I never heard it like this. Moss this I. Listen To this. I used to listen. That's correct all right, so explain this list, so it's a list of fake movie facts that it's been trending online. It was on read it. So. It's a bunch of fake movie. People been posting on Reddit. The jokes Jason. Sense and some of them are technically true, but it's absolute nonsense right so we are going to vote. abloh ever wrote this on. It landed joker, not fair sauce. You read it the three of his vote whether or not, we think it was. Clever or just a stupid as a waste of our shows time in nineteen, seventy seven. George Lucas named his Franchise Star Wars, but not a single time. Do even see stars having wars. I think that's clever. nope get Off to a slow start, I don't like that the nine hundred ninety four movie. The Lion King correctly predicted the entire pot of the two thousand and nineteen movie. The life that's. That's. That's Yanni. Actors in black and white movies were often putting their lives in danger during scenes as they weren't able to tell if the traffic lights were redder. That's body. Okay in the movie Independence Day, a dog named boomer survives, which makes him an okay boomer. That's a stretch that stupid. In the film nine, thousand, nine, hundred, seventeen, the film nineteen seventeen is claimed to have been a one shot. That's possible is there were too many guns fired? You guys both laughs. Church two out of three counts despite his name. Despite his name actor Adam driver was not considered for the role in baby driver because he was thirty three when the film. Making him an adult drive. That's good. That's money. In German Jew, welcome to Germany Jumanji. Excuse me in Jumanji welcome to the jungle. You say. Where'd everybody else says Jumanji John G? You see Jumanji, which is how it's spelled, but you I don't know I've just never heard anybody say like did not have power to read the map. That because paper beats rock. My sources say you refuse to perform Jumanji let's All of Chris Hemsworth, space scenes and Avenger affinity wars were filmed on earth to accommodate the actors oxygen dependency. I don't get that was funny. I think it's even funnier that you don't get it. Read again. How can you not get that all of Chris? Hemsworth spe scenes and Avenger Infinity Wars were filmed on earth to accommodate. Oh, I got it. He has to breathe. I got it. I thought it was got in the Matrix the name. Is An anagram for the word one foreshadowing hominy good matrix movies there would be. That's funny. It's funny. Yeah, that's okay. Yeah give, gone. In titanic a team of scientists, oceanographers search for a priceless diamond that was presumed to have gone down with the ship. Well The lady tells our story about how she lost her for. That's dumb. That's actually more closer to the plot bit from yesterday and movie facts. You know what I'm saying. That's more of a three hour story about losing. Your virginity is is what we have used yesterday. The movie, one hundred and twenty seven hours is really only one hour and thirty minutes long, not funny. Space Jam Michael. Jordan raises the stakes on the game halfway through. This is a reference to his crippling gambling addiction. Pretty good. In Star Wars, the rise of the skywalker, darth vader's destroyed mast mask is frequently displayed. This is a nod to Disney destroying darth vader's character arc. In Batman versus Spiderman order to defeat a god who say that again in Batman versus cues me. In Batman, versus Superman at in order to defeat. A God who has super strength laser is and can fly Bruce. Wayne does pull ups. Stupid. In the movie in the toy story movies, Andy's mom never remarried. This is a subtle Dow Andy and his mom or better off without a step, dad, just like how my mom and I were better off without trevor. Stop dating my mom. Be Good. I, don't know what it is about. Name Choice is the second time we've brought up weird names bit. Michael Scott in the office, but his mom married Jeff. And there's I. CAN'T I love that aspect of comedy writing and it's something that I'm jealous because I just don't know how you pick that. Yeah, but because they're sitting around and they clearly had to think well. What should we call Michael Stepdad? In somebody just thought that having Michael say. Jeff. Sounded Super Funny Yeah. You can pick any name in the world, but what name sounds funny? I, I almost guarantee you that I think a one syllable names funnier. Let's pick a one syllable name. You know what I'm saying. Easy to the point, it might just sound. There may have been just something that they thought. Was Funny about the name Jeff for a Stepdad, and in that case made me laugh. Yeah, Stepdad named Trevor Start dating my mom driver brilliant. Could bit the or what yeah, that was fifteen of 'em. They were, but five of them are funny. So I'm so glad you did that. I think the twin cities really liked listening to read for about five minutes I. Don't think the twin cities like when I do much. Long the we who cares royal we have what really matters is next. We'll do a couple of sports nuggets around the the world of sports, and then who's doing the what really matters you were Zach. You're doing it. Yeah Zach, does the news I'll do this adorable then Mardi goellner thirty minutes from now. This is the power trip morning. Show on the fan. The fair. Soon. If. Asked power to the morning show on Joe there's Paul Meat Sauce. Lambert there's Zach Alverson. Hawk will be back on Monday. Friday be three hundred eleven game of initials at eight fifteen, including that initials Jackpot, which twenty five hundred dollars I think gross fast. Does that feel like we just started it at five hundred bucks? Yeah, that's sweet. Majority of the twenty five hundred dollars five hundred dollars a week. It goes up until somebody hits it and by the way for the people that have asked on and I've had a couple of people. Ask this if it hits on Friday, even though it's very unlikely of course. It goes back to zero. We start over at five hundred. It's not this isn't a one time thing. Hopefully we do this forever. Just will reset after it's. It's like the powerball. Yeah, it's sweet. It's a great idea. You're good. You assume I didn't win the mega millions last night because I think would have seen a headline saying. FOUR HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR TICKET WAS PURCHASED MINNESOTA. I didn't read that yeah. I didn't know that was close to four hundred million last night I. Think Oh, good for you. But I didn't win it though I. Know but good for you for playing with. You gave it a good goal all right? It tried yeah. Lottery skills. They're very similar to Chris. Hockey slot skills. I forgot about his slot skill. Yeah! You ready for what really matters I couldn't be more ready. Young man scores stats sports news around the the world is sports than in between sauce will change. Everybody's life was something that actually matters, and it's brought to you by our friends at cultivated. See Me, thanks cultivated. CBD Thank you. Thanks. Right on, yes. Yes, yes. Former bullet star Wes unseld died at the age of seventy four only. Title in team history was nineteen, seventy eight and he was the MVP. West on so. Pneumonia, apparently, what really matters is this. It's technically illegal to watch the superbowl. On a TV larger. Than fifty five inches. But the COPS probably won't bust you if you do it. What I don't know. Yeah, that's true. It's because they don't want you to like but on a big screen and show the whole neighborhood. So. But illegal yeah. That's a nationwide law. It's. Basically, the The way they can put it. It says it's like if they prosecute church for having a super bowl party. Can't do that. Or any other place. This is going to be a sick brag, but I don't care. I have a projection TV, which is way more affordable than people would think of course but my screen, one hundred and twenty inches. So over double the legal limit to watch the Super Bowl. When I'm used to plan rocket league on a projection screen TV or watching anything game of thrones where it feels like it's a movie theater every time I watch it. Over to somebody else's house and they have like a forty inch flat screen. I'm going. Why even watch TV right? Just go outside? Yeah, forty inch TV. Yeah, it's not one thousand, nine, hundred seven. Yeah, what are you doing? For for about forty bucks you can get a nine thousand TV now, yeah, right on Black Friday. They'd basically given to you for free. And a couple of thirty two inches up in my office, yeah, burned to the ground Nice computer. Monitor right exactly. That's a small monitor. How you're supposed to read twitter stream that small get out of your. Mind seventy-five. Sweeney. For them. My turn The NFL said camps will be only at team facilities. You, don't you don't? What's the vice by? The way is clearly again. They're not making any more. They're in Egan at the new TCL for the last couple of years right? My guess is training. Camp will be zero fans, which makes sense because that's of the season might even be. It might at least start with no fans in the stands. The NFL thinks it might be the other way, but we'll see, but by guesses is training camp. No fans is. I feel bad for the VIKES. 'cause they're still trying to build that vibe Egan as opposed to. Kato is such a huge party was tons of fun. It was different, super unique, and they moved to Egan, and it just felt stale in that little. That little like corridor. Through T co that goes to the field. Where they have like booths once in a while, and it looks like they could have bands, or you could make a state fair feel. It. It's GonNa be interesting to see them develop that over the years to make it more of A. Grassroots kind of feel like an old school main Kato field, but just on the campus at TCL. Here's an another year. We're going to have to skip that and just. Let him swing for the fences next year. Well, that's all we heard. Last year was how great this is going to be in like a year, so they figure it out and some changes and I believe them I think saying because there's so many. HOW ABOUT FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE! There's a lot of money making opportunities for the Vikings and their partners around training camp. Because the VIBE, there's a little bit dead. It's not nearly as fun as main Kato because they just haven't got their feet. Say Yet, but I think they're going to figure it out, but I wonder. How much this? That wrenching, maybe experimentation or partnering with different people I don't know what it is, or maybe it gives them another year to build that up. because. There's just not going to be anybody there feel free to. Put some permanent structures in place to make that superfund. Can't have like you know. You can't have our city just rocking. All the teams plan credit point, but you gotta have something going on. So it's not just dead air. My turn what really matters is this scientific American is the oldest magazine in the United States. It's been it's been published. For the past one hundred seventy four years without a break. Has Hockey, or does he have a subscription to no? No I think he doubted he had subscription almost every magazine on the planet, but I don't think he read scientific American he might. Maybe like an dentist's office number when he would like, bring those magazine to just throw them out on the it was like they were all men's magazine, Maxim Blender, like better homes and gardens Christmas cookie addition like most them had chicks in bikinis. Yeah, right? He had a couple of Tattoo magazines, which again not really about the tattoos, it was more about all the gals that were covered in tattoos posing super provocative. Yeah! I'm done with these and like. I don't want to know what young young Yuck. Covered fecal. Do you mean you are done subscribing to these or you are done using these specific magazines either way, just recycle them and move on right. Your turn NBA time line and we'll talk to Marnie general over the next couple of hours when she's here from seven to nine, but the NBA timeline would not include the wolves. We've talked about that for the last couple of days, but they did lay out a starting time in possible ending time, the twenty two team model would be July thirty first through a possible game, seven of the finals October twelfth so. That is a long run. For whichever teams are stuck in the playoffs for that long, that's a long time to be stuck in a hotel in Orlando. the wolves would not involved in any event, which unfortunately might have marnie out of the mix. For the foreseeable future. Come into Bresso, she just comes in guns blazing blazin fired up. What really matters those this Paul? Fargo North Dakota was named after William Fargo. He's the guy who founded. Wells Fargo. Did. Not Know that I just assumed the bank was named after the town I didn't know they were both named after the guy that makes sense Sure I just thought wells. Fargo maybe started in Fargo. I thought it would be more likely that some guy named like Steve Wells. Started a bank in Fargo, so they just called it wells Fargo. Oh, you know what I'm saying. I never thought of it that way. Didn't know there was a guy that was named Fargo the town after him to. William. Well Marnie know that even though she's not from Fargo. I would bet yeah. Marnie knows a lot. Vikings linebackers Eric Hendrickson Anthony Barr did not like the NFL statement of the death of George Floyd. They basically said quote. Your statement said nothing. You're league is built on black athletes. Vague answers do nothing like the players know what you're actually doing, and we know what silence means. Not a great day for the NFL yesterday, the the players hit back league pretty hard for saying. You've done nothing last handful years. This is what we've been complaining about. Wanted to do something that it is saying you. Think other people should do something. I would think the NFL has the money the resources of the power to try to find a way to do something. Right something. Yeah I. Don't know what really matters. Is this having a second toe? That's longer than your big toe is called Morton stole. The. Statue of Liberty was built with Morton, stove. Do you have a Morton so kind of I? Mean kind of. ooh, that's that's that is a photo finish. I think your big toe is slightly bigger I. Don't think you have a Morton's toe. That's close though. That's at an angle. I definitely do not ZAC give a Morton's toe or not. Is your second longer than your big toe? Yeah, it is SPA Morton's tower there yeah me and my Morton still emt. Never did anything. That's weird sauce. What do you think of gals with Morton does yeah, that's fine. Does Is Kelly have a Morton's toe. Or whatever names. You know your lady. Yeah I know what you're talking about. Well aware give more than still. I don't think so. Not a tow guy, matter foot guy good, because otherwise you would've puked looking at a photo on twitter yesterday as we brilliantly talked about yesterday and I say Brennan because it included me, so it's brilliant Is that the before or after picture? It just looks like evidence. You look at that you go. I get your money back. So I I look at a picture like that and say. Let's say you are a toe sucker. You're like rex. Ryan kind of Guy Your foot fetish person. I would think you still like Nice ones right. Does Rex Ryan look at. Toes and throw up or is he turned on. Either keys turned on I. Think All. If you're a BOOB guy You're like. BOOBS are great. I mean I. Don't think you're turned on by mine. Perfect. oops, but yeah. Maybe you're right. Yeah, I bet I, bet. Rex Ryan has grossed out by. It also led to see your top. We'll. See I. Guess that might be a nice analogy to back to your boob analogy. Like Hawk would love to see quote gross ones. He still liked to see him. He saw some gross ones in Colorado right. So I guess that might be right. Yeah like maybe it doesn't matter to hawk. Hut his son. Rex Ryan I wanNA see them all. If PA ever. RUN INTO REX Ryan in his NFL circles like at our. Broadcast Booth I hope. He takes his shoes off season, but rex thinks. We think of these guys. Rex immediately asked him if he can have a cigarette in the booth. They'd probably share one. Marnie joins next in the news is next. This is the power trip morning joe on the fan. Fan. I would like to tell you about mommy. I like him. The more details. Good job morning. Parker Show me the MOM. Mom. To Mommy. Mommy. Mommy Joins the power, to morning. Be Perceivable Future every Wednesday. For a little while this time. Marnie not going to be forever or is. Future kind of feels like it's time before we dive into the. KAZAKS GONNA headline. The News Chris's out the rest of the week. plus talk about you for a second I'm concerned about you. We're worried about you. This new. This new NBA plan is the Anti Marnie Goellner plan, so Adam silver doesn't want you to have a job for the next couple of months. And Baseball's argument about money. How. Are you going to get paid? If these two leagues can't figure out how to involve you fair question, the Hell's going with Marnie Garin Russian. It's almost as if they're not considering me when they're making their plans. Do any of the twenty two teams that will be involved in the NBA season? Need a sideline reporter can get. believe me I have called them all I bet. I I understand both sides of it. I was reading a little bit yesterday like the Atlanta Hawks were kind of vocal about the plan and they were speaking out like we have a young team. Yeah, I know we weren't in the playoff mix, but we need experience. We need time together. We need games together, and that shouldn't be any less important to the NBA and I hear that and the Timber Wolves a young team with a ton of new players who need exactly the same thing and you do punish a team because that team just wasn't quite good enough that season, so the wolves last game was march. Is that right ten? They're potentially next game. If everything went like this when the season would start, Christmas Ish that is. Ten and a half months. Between Games The end of this currencies into the beginning of next season if they're not part of this. Isn't that incredible? And if you are part of it, you could play until almost over Halloween Yep and then have. Got A couple of weeks and you have to get right back into it if the season starts on Christmas Day, yeah, what what have you been told about? This specifics have if you go down there. How restricted it'll be none none I. don't know anything about it I. That may be because. I ain't going down there, I. Don't know if teams. Even let's say the Lakers. Are bringing a Mike. trudell sideline reporter type of person because I would think if if if and when baseball resumes for example I. Don't know that anyone non. Non! Essential, to the game. Players Manager Coaches UMPIRES trainer head like head trainer. I don't know outside of that. Who would be traveling for sure? Not Sideline reporters would be my guess, I, don't know any inside information I would guess. Broadcasters are probably calling Games a studio and a monitor. So I don't know about the NBA. The they are in one central location. You can contain that more. You can test you can. Maybe you're considered part of this? Okay? Each NBA team gets a group of forty five. That's. Can you guys are living in this bubble and they would include broadcasters. Don't turn the city or big. Brother Reality TV. Show right just the cameras the cameras. Let's see what they do all day because they're stuck there for three months I have an idea for you. Though because again you are the power to the morning to rescue dog until you get employed. Scraps. Exactly. Let's him. have. You watched Mike Max on Channel Four coverage. I did watch. Viral right, he's trying twitter because he's kicking so much. Ask covering the riots as a sports guy now. Get into the mix. That is truly the sidelines. You're not even in the studio out on the sidelines. He line getting tear gassed up. What is the money will tear gas? Where was I? I was in suburbia. Locked in my basement. You would agree microphone and a camera. Followed some protests. Yeah if I had been working in sure I would like to. I would answer that bell but I. I drink. Thanks for the Open I love it, it's. Time. For. Time. Now, that would that I'd like to hear when I'm not here. Just play. That sent the tone I cower from conflict. I. Do not like unsettled waters and confrontation. If I had to. If I was there for like that was my neighborhood, I'd like to think yes. The something that will trigger something in me, but as an outsider because I live in the suburbs. I Live a good twenty five minutes out of downtown. I was watching it. Surreal like. And also thinking only I'm glad I'm here right here and admiring people like Chris Hockey even on twitter I. Don't really say anything I'm just not comfortable I. Don't WanNa. Say the wrong thing I. Don't WanNa do the wrong thing. I don't want to go down there because I make it hit or hurt or like those people when I saw them on the bridge and just. The sheer mass and volume I was like you. People are so brave I. Admire you this heartwarming until semi came, but the all this and I feel like I. Wish I could do that I wasn't moved to. Do that and it has it has risen all kinds of questions in my mind like. What am I doing to be part of this change in my part of the problem by not having been part of this change, has been a lot of self reflection lately, but the bottom line is i. don't like which yes, that is good, but I don't like conflict, and it has prevented me from being a real. Part of this part is I've got a family in two kids at home that I was like. What are they going to do? If Mommy gets arrested or hurt or on? That's my excuse of saying I'll just stay here and be quiet. I didn't do anything wrong. But I really didn't do anything right right, and when you are covering the twins specifically, maybe the worst case scenario the end of the game you get a gatorade bath or something accidentally right? Maybe some idiots spits chewing tobacco in your face. That's like the worst case scenario. Max's dodging pepper spray. tear-gas, probably a bricker to yeah. Mike maximums kickin ass. Man I saw this. Is Does he have any background in just news, reporting or Z.? Always sports elegant. It's all sports because that's Auden only known him as a sports I think, most of us have only known him as a sports guy didn't know if like college or after college if he had a news job I or if he went straight sports Tom I. Don't know that, but before he was. WCC Oh. He was MSC which existed before Fox. Sports North even existed, and that was true reporting. Now we see them a lot at the anchor desk. Rosen even though he was there, before rose into. Now. He's like the guy but Mike Max is a reporter. Yes. He's been a reporter, but he is a reporter and he is a guy that even in the sports world. He has sources. He's gay. which a lot of times we don't see a lot of anchor types at game rose marks, not here right out so I can write Rosie's never bedroom wild game and they've been since two thousand. Yeah, rosy couldn't tell you to. and. He's got. He's got things to rip in, but no I see Maxi. And I see him in the twins clubhouse I in the wolves, locker room and I. See him like he's that he is in the mix, so it doesn't surprise me. People were saying I didn't watch it wall to wall, but people were saying like he knew the streets and the neighborhood of the names that. He was, but not only just informed. You just said you admitted, and this is fine. You being honest with yourself that. The conflict may have flustered you because you were very comfortable. Being at home and being safe, he just seemed despite tear gas in giant crowds and a lot of unknowns. He was so comfortable with a microphone so comfortable with a camera. It wasn't like Oh. This subject is too big for me. I'm not comfortable with this normally. Twins Locker asking. Why did you steal second? Try to steal a? WHO GIVES A rat's ass? If you get take out at second in the big scheme of things, right, it's fun. It's entertainment. This is serious. This is life and death and people's businesses and livelihoods in justice and he was slinging it i. mean again. It wasn't just a handful of media. People going well Mike's doing a good job. Twitter's like. Nick Nationally. Who's this sports student? Kicking ass nearly in Canada he was being. There are a lot of his interviews are being showing up there and I got friends up there and they were saying. Oh, he's all over Winnipeg. Manitoba and I wonder, too. Is Sports background a help? In the fact that it's all unscripted? Anything can happen, and when you're used to dealing with that his entire career, you know not knowing what's GonNa Happen next. Maybe that helped him out there on the street, and obviously he's done radio for years, so he's he's a comfortable. Radio, but would be learned dark star. He learned from Darkstar. Exactly learn from the best with. Just! How many and I think this is a compliment to Mike is I? Don't think it's everybody but I wonder how many people could translate immediately to war, coverage or conflict coverage if it's not everybody and he's just happens to be one of them. I don't know what percentages, but he's in that group. For sure he great. He was part of an on Sunday when they basically circled all those people up, and he was unbelievable. How good he was at bobbing saves you that and. I think the one thing. This is I'm not knocking anybody else, but I mostly watched four. He was so calm like even when they were like. You've got a backup instead of being like oh? Okay like He. Just he was, so it was unbelievable to watch. How much of a pro he is it what he does and I don't WanNa throw other people under the bus either but I have a couple of the people locally, I thought consistently were cutting off people's answers I thought Mike did a super good job on the street of listening to what he asks and letting people finish, finish their answer and not just talking I. Thought there really good job of. If I'm GonNa, ask you something. I'm not just looking to talk next. It's feel free to flush out your answer that April. Going to point out is the fact that he was really listening. And that's not always an easy thing to do. Because as the person with the microphone is your responsibility to keep the conversation going which means you? Need to steer it, and you need to ask the next question, and sometimes it's hard to not have the next question sort of loaded in your mind, and then you. Forget to listen to every part of the answer and he was listening, and that's something I. Don't think I'm good at math partially to blame because of the format of this show right over twenty years of doing the power to morning Joe almost. We almost always do group interviews. So your point, right? You ask him when I ask your question I know. I probably have four minutes before it circles back to me, and we don't necessarily do I do one. Chris doesn't want saw. A circle scripted, but but it's pretty rare when somebody asks seven questions in a row, so I don't have to fully engage ever which? Kinda sucks right. It would be really to have deep dive interviews because I listen to stern and stearns the goat. Make the best interviewer I think in the history of media. I just think he's that good, but everybody else in that show gets out of the way because Howard's on fire. We just don't have that here. So I definitely fall in that trap all the time sauces Esam. Some stupid I got three minutes before. It's my turn. Mine's normally asking if they want to hang out. Right if they want to golf, or it's mostly what somebody asked three minutes ago, but you weren't listening because you were waiting for your next question, so it's I already has that? Just with bigger words and in the right order. Yeah, that's a great. Question if I may for the. Last forty five seconds, or do you already have this question? Lineup tuned out who was exactly yeah. That's. Right and you do it. Well A. Question for you guys I have not, I've listened. To, your show didn't listen every second of every day and maybe minute. There, but as Corey as sort of the driver, if you will of this show in the conversations and sausage, a vital contributor and even, Zach. How have you been reading the room? In terms of is a good for Fart joke segment versus we really need to stay. In the middle and keep a little bit more of a serious tone, and and yes, we're covering this. You're doing a segment of it. But when is it okay to peel off and do something else and then come back to it? How are you reading that with this show? In particular well, the decision we made last week was if something breaks during the show. Clearly, we're dropping all of our penis jokes to go straight to the actual news if if the city had been. Writing at night the way she's me during five thirty to nine the way they were at night. We've probably would have been very riot heavy just because I. Don't think we would have had a choice, but we made the choice going unless something breaks. We gotTA. Keep people updated. That's why we've had kind of keep an eye on stuff to see if anything changes. Otherwise, we we, we know our lane again not to circle back to the MIC. Max Thing, but I think all of us know were comfortable enough to say what we have to say if something happens. But all of us would prefer to stay in the toy department. Right and just do stupid jokes and be sophomoric for three and a half hours. We know that's ninety. Five percent of our listeners are here for that, so we try to go to that as much as we can. Unless we absolutely have to even on Monday, which was the rise last day for you guys you when you went off the Air Friday. Neth the big, the big fires and just Dudley. We definitely do like recaps. We talked about what we saw. We obviously win heavy on the truck thing and how lucky that was that it wasn't a massive death factor. But we try to circle back to the nonsense as fast as possible unless it's necessary to stay in the the second is the station likes to call, and you're going to take some criticism from people who say you're doing too much. You're doing that enough in your just. There's no right answer for. Our base knows that. We're going to do what we have to do, but we still want to have as much as possible and I don't think it's insensitive to go back to a nonsense shows. That's what do that's our main job. Your mic. Max is going back to sports at some point unless. CVS says hey you. WanNa go to. Sure some wars should give him a giant raise in. Send them around the world. Man I mean maybe that's for him. I don't think power jobs get met call no doubt it sauce. You want to go to Syria. I Love Syrup I mean if they wanted me to. Yeah, I would but. I want you to, but you would churn. No, you wouldn't we're, did you? You wouldn't you wouldn't go to Syria. Think about like this. Be Honest. Do you think you have skillset to report? Live on an actual conflict in Syria. Here's the thing I love you to death. You would be awful at that. I would. Here's the thing. My whole life I've by Homer, Simpson's analogy or Homer Simpson say philosophy where. His analogy and the man to do it again. If everyone in the media was wiped out. They'd be like we don't have anyone else. Well. Isn't Meat Sauce Dole there? Now? He left. They wouldn't have no I know they would. And I wait a minute strength. So, I applaud everyone that can do so somebody in a corner office says we need to send meat sauce to Syria. You would wholeheartedly agree, but then half asset when you got there, so they never send you back to Syria. They would never ask I guess I. Don't understand Homer Simpson's analogy. They would never add more of a philosophy. They would never ask because A. HALF ACID here yeah. Got It. Did you get into the scramming into the mix and into the things that were going on around you or did you? Were you like me? Conflict Really unsettles you. And you're better off just taking in. By a TV yeah I mean. I watched it I. I don't know. Yeah, conflict freaks me out, but I know the majority of what's happening is is for the good for what all these protests, and all that and I agree with a lot of those people I agree. But, of course, yes, but like you know. But would you get into the mix and so she's asking? Would you get in there? Yeah I, you know I'm saying no, no, no. No test where you just sat on a grassy knoll with a sign you were like yeah. Oh, no, once in a while. He's in the honeymoon phase of New Lady Friend, he he. The world can be burning. He's watching netflix documentaries with this new lady friend whose name he won't release. Yeah, that's what I'm doing. That's the best part of a relationship. The honeymoon period, yeah! Just happens to be during coronavirus in social unrest. But get stuff to talk about I. Don't think they're talking about politics and. Society much. No, they're watching Julian Randy on channel. Eleven You ready for the news. Even though we've been talking about the news and news coverage. Award. This. Thing in news with Zach Halvor, said, presented by by Your Credit Union. Zach halverson. And I give you the hard news because Chris Hockey in here. You're. You're interested in a riot in protest. You would be good. Out there. Yeah An iphone and records of using stuff have been good at that. Maybe if it heats up again, we'll send you out there. I will I will go to whatever assignment you send me. Please let it heat up again. Scenario. Maxon halverson is battling for media supremacy covering the riots. Yeah, it's got. It's got a great ring to. Mike Max and V at noon. Knew what channel. Doing like a cooking show, Max and Halverson a replace being common, no I meant no, noone just has a nice ring to it. Like Maxi and hell a at three. Nice ring to it like Maxxie and healthy in the morning. Do like that, you said Max and you're GONNA. Be like this duo covering the news, but sounds like the protests and the riots are GonNa Start at noon. And they're going to cover schedule. Schedule at noon and. Let's just move on. That was like A. Year, analogies? Zach speaking of things possibly heating up the secret service is briefing local law enforcement about possible visit to the twin cities this week by former President Barack, Obama and Vice President Mike Pence Obama would be attending Thursday's memorial for George Floyd while pence would be visiting on Friday law. Enforcement said they are concerned. A visit could further inflame and motivate writers in the twin cities I was going to say those visits will be received differently. I believe they will be. We'll see. A Saint Paul man is accused of shooting at Minneapolis. Police officers during protests over the death of George Floyd reporters reports say officers on Lake Street fire, less lethal rounds at Jalil stallings early last Saturday morning. Leading to stallings shooting back, no officers were hit. stallings is charged with two counts of attempted second degree, murder, assault, rioting and using a dangerous weapons. The gofundme fundraiser for the family of George Floyd, has surpassed ten million dollars. That's awesome we million. Less than a week was created as of early Wednesday morning, the fund stood at around. Eleven point three million dollars Boyd's brother felonies created the fundraiser last week to pay for Floyd's funeral costs, counseling for the family and education and care for his children. which by the way I was super late to the party, and that I didn't know he had kids until a couple of days ago, so video the six year old. Absolutely. Yeah God. She was standing there. Unbelievably brave to at the press conference yesterday I think I saw was the one at the Capitol Yeah Yeah Standing There Brevard. Now I don't know she's a and when the door yeah, her mother talked about. He won't be able to walk her down the aisle. RIPPER HEART OUT KARACHI As Saint Louis County fifth grade. Teacher is in hot water for comments. He made about refugees. These Star Tribune reports. He wotton elementary schoolteacher Chris Lie. Soccer recently sent an email to county commissioners, saying he wouldn't be nice refugees if they settled there and bigger cities are better places for them to settle. Blind soccer has since apologized for his comments, but the district is now investigating them Saint Louis County commissioners have refused to make a symbolic decision about whether or not refugees should be allowed there so I'm curious. Do we have systemic racism in this country? Do we read the room guy? Wow. Destructive Beetle Larva are recovered at the international falls port of entry. The US Customs and border control are in the US Customs. Alverson! Off. The US Customs. At right at noon, thank you. The US Customs and Border Patrol, said Tuesday CAPRA beaver beetle larva were found in shipment of welding wire from China last month. Border Patrol said the CAPRA beetle is a serious threat to the United States agriculture because it burrows into grains and others other goods a spokesman for border. Patrol says the larva were likely accidental stowaways. Sure they were. All of a sudden the country is Murder Hornets. They have whatever the hell beetle you just pronounced. Social unrest. The, whole world's fallen apart Wendy a season. He's unemployed got newsletter mornings. Hey, go there, we go. Good News. Don't read it sure up a little bit. The president of the Minnesota twins is increasingly optimistic about Major. League baseball returning this year on Tuesday Dave Saint Peter told the starter being. He's more optimistic now about returning to baseball than he has been in the last couple of weeks, players and owners have been locked in negotiations for weeks over disagreements about pay. The number of games played and other issues. Saint Peter's says he thinks the players and owners ultimately want to come together on an agreement. Yeah! Moving morning. Optimism from Dave. Yes now I've I thought that all along that. It'll probably happen. I don't know I I guess in my heart. I was like probably eighty percent can have some form of a baseball season. Then it was not so positive when I saw how far the owners and the players were, but only there was too much time to be able to figure this out. They could stay far apart until sounds like this week is really the week where all right you guys got to get your together on both sides and give us something to work with, or it ain't happening. and. The players were saying like a hundred and fourteen games than the last proposal was like. Chevy a fifty to sixty. I'm like. Okay let's Let's shrink that the gap between the numbers. and. Let's roll. This works so right you you never give him more offer I. If you're happy with seventy or eighty, you just throw fifty at him. Then you meet in the middle I, get it. But why are we using those tactics at this time? Because it's dumb, right? Yeah, just. Especially publicly to your point. It's just. A room and don't get out of the room until you find an agreement, so we don't have the ugliness behind doors and don't let us know about it. And Give us some base. Story one more really quick. This is important. I'M GONNA. Cut The music. Safe sex during the covid nineteen pandemic involves many things with wearing a facemask chief among them a new study published in the annals of internal medicine, reviews and lists sex acts. Sex acts that may lead to the spread of Corona virus. The Harvard University researchers say anyone that wants to have sex with those that that they're not quarantined with should wear a mask. Avoid Kissing and not do anything involving. Fluids I caught Jiro logic and all. Last bit. Pure Jewish studies is also that limited risk is involved with in-house partners as someone could become infected while shopping or at their job. Unsurprisingly, researchers believed that the safest pandemic sex is masturbation though abstinence beats them all Geez. You got a very specific technical at the end there. Wow, nice, little pun at the end there. Sauce. I've heard you've worn masks for years in eyes, wide, shut. You really liked that film. No? I'm giving you a compliment I. Don't know what that movie heroes. More money after this. This is the powerchip morning. Show on the fan. Not. Ever. Burn. The Fan. Tastes like Jacqueline. Automatic. Going in his Columbia, chickens. Garden State and he told me. Don't we make it so we? Think everybody on the planet in some way shape or form is a hypocrite. We try to minimize the hypocrisy right. You just want to be the smallest amount of a hypocrites you. Okay okay almost impossible to not be at least a slight hypocrites once in a while. So it helps to just point out when you're being a hypocrite and I'm going to be a hypocrite and a little bit. I keep trying to move on from Tiger King like mentally. It was Super Fun. I loved it. The world went crazy Ford for a month but I. don't care about like the future movies. They're making like I've kind of moved on. Right have moved on. You didn't get tiger merch. No, but yet they're keep. The news keep sliding in just a little bit at a time like that's kind of interesting. Just for a second like yesterday. We learned that Carol Baskin. She's me Bitch Carol Baskin got the zoo and Oklahoma police play. She got the zoo. Awarded a berth. Show. Right, so and and they're gonNA. They're gonNA sounds like they're going to maybe move the the animals somewhere else. But whatever I thought Mike All Right Oh, so I thought that was weird. Enough News like ball. She really got that, so we brought up yesterday and I'm. Trying to move on I don't want to bring up tigers anymore. It's not march. There's a little piece in the news today. I'm like that's interesting and I know Tiger King. People think this is interesting. If you remember and you watched it right? How are you going to explain? I was just GonNa ask you. Go ahead. Yes, so. Joe Exotic really hated as he called her that bitch. Carol basket right so we have adopted that that reform on this show. But one of the reasons why he hated that Bitch Carol Baskin is he claimed that she killed her ex husband yeah. Is Your Update Age County Sheriff in Florida has declared that the will of Carol Baskin's long-missing husband. was absolutely forged, but the statute of limitations has expired, so that was the rumor in the documentaries that it seemed like it was forged this county sheriff in Florida's. It's forged how they're doing any. Is there a statute of limitations on forged will? Ever run out I. Agree, but they're saying. Hey. I don't know if it's one person or I don't know how fish will, this is, but it's a sheriff. Same convinced it was forged all your hands. You can ask. My old man Nelson Man at eight twenty. Sure about what about that he would know. Limitations. Spree might be different in every state, but in Florida. They say they're saying. The statute of limitations has expired is ridiculous. He or she? Whoever the sheriff has says I can't do anything about it. But for those of you, that believe that she did kill her. Ex Husband. This is. That was the biggest piece in the documentary is while she forged the document. What else did she capable? She got everything if he died and then he mysteriously disappears. That's pretty shady. Well there you go. There is a tick tock. song, I guess it's only four verses are. Very Short, it's like fifteen seconds long. Have you heard it the? Alaskan instead of I`Ma savage. Yes, you're asking right, yeah, do you have that in the system because it's pretty funny? Baskin killed her husband. Whack, you got it. You can convince me that it didn't happen. Jeez fed him to taggers. Snacking was happening okay Sarah Basket. I think we're learning that money's on Tiktok more than I would've guessed. You were hockey. I'm not on Tuck, but I have a ten year old daughter who likes to take? But that line. To Tigers they snacking, it's funny. That is yeah, you got. Kale Your husband wacked. Dan Impasse. Tigers snacking. Care Faster. And that's catchy, very. Crowd I have learned. People Tick Tock for very different reasons for example, Chris is just looking for videos. Yeah, he's just swiping until he gets the hottest chicks in the. He's little right. He's wanted for botchy. He wants the most possible nudity that Tiktok will allow and he loves TIKTOK immensely. Zach great, I have barely dabbled but the. Know this is super. cliche is a lot of TIKTOK. His dancing right cool moves. Whatever the one that gets me every time because I just can't imagine being this talented at anything. Is. Ten seconds of the slow motion step-by-step here here's how you do like the shuffle. And then when that song hits, they just do it and they're doing. Michael Jackson moonwalked moves. How was this humanly possible and I don't care if you show it to me a hundred times step-by-step. Lift your. Third. This slide your foot back and then you speed it up. That's not that easy. They're doing the most freakish dance moves. I've ever seen in. It's a Lotta really pretty girls doing him, yeah. It's definitely have my attention. Mass! There are so many times. Out there, it's another great outlet for talented people to be seen in show their share their talents. Rates. Helping me at all. All of those moves I can't do any of them. But do you know the dance knows this whole science? Even if you don't do it well, can you do it? No I. Haven't even tried I just I watched the step by step and say that looks doable, and then when they actually start doing the dance I go. No chance. You have rhythm. In general. Like a wedding dance. Can you cut low I think I have more than people would guess bit less than most people should have that make sense. So always zero to ten year like I. Think you're right in the middle. Like a firefighter. I look like I have like a three on a on a dance scale, but I think I'm closer to a five. I wish I had like an eight. I'm not asking for like. You know world of Dance Jaylo judge on me. Are, you better drunker were. I'm way more apt to dance when I'm drunk sunny. Everyone everybody, though right everybody yeah yeah. Rosie Watch. I'll take back. Yeah, he's currently on. Your. He's back there, but he's not listening talking very quietly, so he might not feasible to hear me because he doesn't have his headphones on. He's one hundred percent ticked. Yeah, he just looked up. Yeah, he's the E. I think he has Chris Hockey Plan of. Swipe until you see a thon and then watch that girl dance, and then by the way speaking of having a ten year old TIKTOK. I have no idea. How parents filter that are there filters? Parental guidance filters on Tiktok. The Wild Wild West well. Not, a hundred percent sure about the. She. My daughter has a tick tock account. It is private. People randoms cannot follow her. She can follow some randoms, but she knows better than to follow the inappropriate rent, plus she's still at that age. Where even a hearing a swear word bothers her. She's not trying to sneak it in. Just wonder. How many swipes have her ended up on something that she shouldn't be watching without any militias intense I mean there's there's gotta be some I. Don't know how that works. They've gotta be some FCC regulations over like how graphic you can be. With some physical things it's not. A company by company right some some twitter, you can have nudity order. Yeah, but instagram doesn't allow I. DON'T BELIEVE TIKTOK, allows it, so that's come as no. Nudity. Twitter can do whatever you full-frontal under percent. Percent Yeah I've heard. There's a lot of one hundred percent the wrong people. I didn't know that Mardi. So to answer your question then. Yes, there are some I. Don't know Tiktok well enough. That probably makes me a bad parent. She watches a lot of tiktok. Just you know no headphones volume out. We're all in the room so full transparency. Yes, it's mostly dance. She Chen Ron Learn. Oh, she knows probably twelve different. Do Shopping I was talking about that I don't even want to try. I don't know the shuffled things. Probably not. She's more at the arm movement in the swing and the turning the. Stance to. Marnie Gilmore's with US mark. Rosen joins next. This is the power morning show on the fans. I got the. Washing detergent. Damn! Outside of says. She tired. One twenty years. Now everybody need a decoy. Marty mark, Mark Barney. Frank, my friend, just lead rose Chitchat here during the break so I'll see, or you got more goodies I. See in front of you from my friends at Wagle Yeah. Yeah, sure! Christmas for him so off theory! Explain this to me off. You're you're? You? Don't think Mike Max is doing a very good job. One. About his coverage Stick to sports. We all we were all told that. No of course I mean my God. Talk to Johnny Johnny Athletic Classmate for quite a while I think he's doing a nice says of profile. MAXINE Youth Theatre, Morono when filing story, but would talk at length last night for quite a while, but lots of things including Mike of course it how he was a right for the moment and his experience in his Empathy and his storytelling, his ability as most sports, people are Marnie correctable think on their feet in the field. Doing. Because, we are put in that situation, time and time again but it all kind of came together, and did a magnificent job of question about it, so we also talked Johnny I'm looking at Marnie right on. We talked a little sports at the end of the conversation about I, said well, what sport do you think? Has the best chance of starting play I and I was a little surprised. given the fact that I thought he might say the NHL Because of where they were in that conversation about selecting to host cities to start play, he said the NBA and and Martier saying. Waiting until the end of July, but the time playing some regular season games. And then starting this playoff format, corey down in Orlando Orlando Yeah Marnie sequestering. Just without Marnie this without more yet, correct his the twenty two teams really is just a shot at her. It's Adams. WanNa see her involved know that she specifically brought that up. He did we did. Yeah, he did yeah. Wow, well Mardi. Person I believe he's an exact quote was goals if the wolves bring Mike MACs were in. No thing. L. From. I didn't know that. He's also troubled man. Trouble because he can't seem to unravel the mystery of the goal cold. Mom, well, Alford said it best. How old is Adam? Well the season's aged a little bit, so there's that additional questions and our thoughts and our comments on NBA. One that and I were just talking about. Is why July thirty first would that be a start date? That seems like more than ample time especially if you're trying to, if time is of the essence and ending the season is of the essence like why can't we? That it's just a question I agree because I wouldn't those same hotels be available earlier. Couldn't they get everybody to those hubs cities? Two weeks before that isn't. That they need that time as training, camp and preseason, type safety protocol. It just seems like we could get. They could get going safely earlier than that matter. Other thought is now chew on this minute. In order to include all teams, which ultimately means me? To do all thirty teams if they are going to play some of the regular season, which NHL is not so i. get it going with. You had a shot at the place we're starting at the playoffs were hitting the ground running NBA's taking a different approach. We're GONNA. Play some regular season games. Why not take all thirty teams? You still are divided by how far away you were from the top of the pile so. If you're a bad season, you're still going down there with a bad season. And then. Play the rest of the regular season or whatever you're gonNA. Do regular season wise whatever number of games and then separate into the playoffs with sort of an NC double A. Tournament A. Tournament and therefore you have the teams like the Atlanta Hawks who were very vocal about saying we're young. We need this time. We need this dumb timber wolves fan that category by can't. The top teams play for the quote. Unquote real prize, but then allow the other teams to do playing to play each other and continue to play and get time, and it's sort of separated like an NCWA in an nit were all in Orlando. We're all in the same play ball. Do. It's just going to be depressed. From the wolves get their ass kicked at the NATO Golden State Yeah. That's right by a healthy. Golden State Warriors. But you get games, you get time like Damian Lillard one of the players who spoke out and said I'm not going down there to play seven regular season. Games then not make you laugh so he. You are guaranteed games time with your team. Maybe players not want that because now. They're all risking injury 'cause they're all playing games that we wanted to know. I stole. Unless there's more to it I. Don't get the Damian Lillard. Take it all remember when we ripped the hell out of Kevin Garnett and Ricky Davis for just basically sitting out the last ten in making up some garbage, there is tanking right meets us. Why would I go down there and play six or seven games? Because you're paid hundreds of thousands of dollars per game, it's your job. And if this was the regular season in a non corona virus year and there were seven games left I would hope the blazers make you play those seven games if you're healthy. Talking. I think given the circumstances where we are Obviously the cove nineteen. What's what's taking place last week? I mean you have an opportunity to? Just you know just go to play your. It's a business. Everyone wants to go back to work. The unemployment rate just go back to work and don't say a word about it I. Love I love. He's one of my favorite players the lead. And I think he's terrific and a lot of aspects, but it is. It's kind of. A disconnect when you see something like that for sure everybody's inconvenience that. We all have been the back to the original comment from weeks ago. If if Damian Lewis had to be down there for four weeks when the teams that are going to be there for a title runner there for three months. You can hang out with your teammates for three or four weeks and get through it. It's awkward. It's everybody else has been struggling losing their jobs. You've been sitting at home in a multimillion dollar mansion, probably having a decent time. Semi struggle for three or four weeks to play baby I again at the end of the world taken out of context, just kind of flippant in saying something and I'd like to hear from them again. We'll get to that point, but anyway I mean it's a start and I know Zach was talking about Dave, Saint Peter, being optimistic, which is. Kind of goes against the grain of what we've been hearing between. The Union and Major League Baseball owners about how far apart they are, and even just understanding. How many Games are GONNA play? Of course, it's about. Ultimately bought money, and how what their salary structure is, GonNa look like, but I mean I thought man I felt last week. We're going to have some sort of resolution at least moving forward, because whatever form is spring training was going to take place I thought was going to happen next couple of weeks. If they wanted to start play July the fourth and you just can't. We need just about past. Eh, point already, aren't you just? Closer. Yeah, we're we need to. We need to have a resolution this week. In my opinion, you're GONNA hit early July right. Through. The Briefest Vikings News. On. I four Vikings News. Presented by. Excess. Two, quick notes, one of them doesn't impact the Vikings at all because they already have a facility where they hold training camp, which is TCI the NFL said camps will only be at team facilities, so there are nine teams. It's still hold camps at different sites. They're going to be required to do it at their own facility. The other vikings news is that linebacker's Eric. Eric Hendrickson Anthony Barr very vocal yesterday on twitter about not loving the NFL statement regarding the death of George Floyd basically quote at NFL. What actual steps are you taking his support the fight for justice system reform. Your statement said nothing you're. League is built on black athletes. Vague answers do nothing. Let the players know what you're actually doing, and we know what silence means. The right. There are spot on right on. The statement was lacking a lot of depth and man I'm not humanity, but just depth given. Yeah the amount of African American athletes. They have an employer understanding. The social world that they got embroiled in with the Colin Kaepernick situation and everything else. For, Kendrick's and bar to speak up there, asking a bar on twitter of what can they do to help you know it's just a lot of different ways, and I think I like I just mentioned Tim Bulls in the. And the links are involved in initiative right now. to do a lot of things as well you can look it up on twitter or various social media sites, but That's a perfect example. Because there is absolutely I can feel it in my city. There's a groundswell of community support and advocacy going on right now. As we get further and further away and that George Floyd's decide will not be in vain in terms of the way they approach community involvement. It's it's astonishing to me and I think we're just seeing the start of it right now. Everybody starts to heal a little bit, but I can definitely feel it in the air that it's changed the last forty eight hours well Soda Rosie. With mark and Mark Anita o'clock hour we'll do headlines. We'll do fan five when we come back a couple of other sports things we haven't discussed with Rosie at this is the power to morning show on the fan. A man she calls me. Still away again. Yeah, help me unravel latest. Miss de Gato of him. Wins edges was in my see. Two doors accusing era as they have any. S As a good zero he is. Very serious further proof of mom is a talking picture. To the power. Cars earmark rose in here I'm cory cove. That's Paul Lambert. That Zach Out Riessen hawks back on, Monday. Morning Rosie. How are you good? Yeah Yeah. I'm getting better. It is getting better. Remember hours, I I was on the fence I was not in favor of the Rosen beard. I don't know what you're doing different like it. It's looking better by the day though well. You're maintaining a diff-. Well I haven't talked no I. Haven't done anything with it. I talked to Donald, said yesterday he was in producing for for common, and he's got nicely, and I've never been positioned. Grow tried to grow a beard. He in nicely trimmed bureau man. What are you waiting to? And so he showed me one online know to target and get this course I get that. I'm not there yet as as opposed to sauces. Whiled minds crispy? Word. Chris noticed on the podcast yesterday. There's a lot of empty space. To like when when I'M A guy's hair grows out in the ends. We'll get curly. You call it wispy. It's starting to do that. There are chunks that are. Turning directions without being super graphic Chris may have referred to his face as appearing as if it was a different section of his body found him saying well, I. Actually Agree Yeah I. I know. Well each their own. Rosie one. You're in a very precarious Bob. By the way, how's that? Your Guy Sauce over there admits. You've met his new lady friend HE ADMITTED IT? Said anything he admitted it. He will not tell even me off. Her name I have met her. He said you have met her. I have and very nice lady, very sweet lady, very Yeah, very engaging, yes! He won't even. Won't even give her name. Trying to keep her secret well, that's okay. Yeah from you, guys. How can you injured? Is it a rosy, but not me or Marnie? You guys are vultures, you and hogs here. Yes, were you in a social situation? Tissue gathered? 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No, that's too person along. Alan have you been? Is it new in weeks or is it? Is it months. No Okay and I don't want to Pry I respect your privacy and I'm really happy for you. I'm happy search weed out on the yeah tweeted out. Rosie's going to put it out at Camping Rosen. No, no I would never do that, nor do I have a picture of it. I've a mental picture of her. It's what is she? Where join, what is you? Know. I have to laugh a little bit I haven't used that'll line a long time. That's not. Her name search with the K. though right. He said that earlier that right. You'd made it that earlier. Yes. But I didn't admit that. Not Going to see anymore. The. If it's Keri Russell. I'm going to kill you. I would. I would lead. Lead I'd ever committed. Watch the show. And sit right there right next to you is it kristen wig. 'cause then I will. Unbelievably Pretty Dallas. Is a fifteen times during the power trip, but before for bridesmaids they were doing a promotional tour. We know about it. Why would you put a giant movie like that on this station? So they were making the round the building, though they they. They Wendy from Reno nine one one. Last name, oh mcclendon covey say last name. She's great on Reno nine one one. Yeah, she's great on the Goldberg. Of Wendy in Chris in WIG, but we walked out at nine o'clock. We Walk Right out. This door came to. The door from here through the window we walk out in those two are waiting to get in I or two. So that's happened two or three times in my career here. Where like I almost ran into Mandy? Moore going around the corner indicated to be almost physically raining. There was like excuse me I like Jeez. Okay. It's Mandy Moore not some random hot chick. It's Mandy and might well sorry. So that was super cool, but we did the same thing here. We walked out Christian WIG. They're waiting for serie like she was well into SNL. Time. Act Really and again. Oh, so. I think she's a pretty Gal. You can't believe S. She's been proven prettier in person jaw-dropping very. Like. Pretty Industry which crashed on her swing. You can tell like nanoseconds. I mean what she just engaged with you. Tech everything about hooper sweet. For Nice, she's my all time. FAVORITE FEMALE CAST member on. All tight time I just think she's great. For me. Essentially the most talented one and the funniest one and again I saw her person Jesus Yeah Oh, talented and gorgeous, super awesome, got big fan of the program as well as the Kid Miller tonight at. Nine yeah I we chat you know do the real tweet. Do Know Him just connected through twitter. He played initials ones though. Yeah. He met the flat todd. He's he's under. Humor's. Great bit on say. Nine Nine Church Shell. Speaking of a plate and Y'all sent him to I know. You love parks and REC. In Brooklyn nine. and. The good place you watch and I know this is not Michael. Sure I'm just saying this is Greg. Daniels Steve. Carell watch space for US funny. You should ask. Afternoon I was just too few laundry type around the house. Things I was like oh I need something in the background I put it on. It was. Not actively bad, but there was nothing good I didn't like nothing was not I was I. I'd recognize the voice and I'd look up there, so many legit stars is age words from parks and REC. To. Be Leave, Eric how. There was nothing there i. didn't even Gig Smile I don't think I was just like flat, really disciplined. Joining up I. Did he watch more than I watched twenty minutes maybe. I didn't even. Two different attempts to finish the first episode and I can't even get through it. Chris watched what to episode, Wife. Watch five G. wow better. Her pressured is sort of like she's smiling. You're laughing a little bit and that was kind of yet, but it's just kind of locked under well I miss something in the first episode was I-. Folding whites in another room. Win Up, Lisa. COODER was in jail or was. There was a time jump, okay? Formers. I must have missed a really important thirty seconds, and then she's basically telling him to go out and sleep with other gases you. Would never even his accent bothers me a little bit whatever I can't even tell where he's supposed to be from very odd. It is very. No one's ever said anything. Good about it know it's crazy that they have that kind of talent in writing this really what it comes down to because you know those always actors can performance such a high level and comedy drama. Whatever it is, Malkovich can do anything. you wonder what what slip through the cracks their. Side! Best writers that exist who are free, which a lot of them are I think during this time would jump on that show because you, the number of people who could spit your lines out and bring life to them, and it's Netflix's, so the budget has to be off the charts basically just go for do what you want. You should have all the reason I think she'd have all the resources. allister's couldn't landed. and. They're the jury is out on whether Netflix's will order a season to demand response has been brutal, but there's four people that listen to the show on twitter, but like you gotta give the rest of the season a chance. It gets better I never going to yeah I'm not going back. You're watching it. But again that's the that's the most damning things so far is. Percents. We ask Chris. What did you think and Chris loves everything he? He says. It's basically. Off On okay from hockey is now south, right? It's a fail. It May as well be Nazi propaganda. That's how bad it is. Anyway all right. Yeah, so we do sports. You. Know. We have the list all a will to ago along the shows that aren't football that are like the number like all those in the top twenty ratings. Wise, he liked of course he did not Mike Chicago fire. Now, you're over still. It's all network TV Gardenia, Chicago fire no he loves all. I WATCH STOP WATCHING NETWORK TV mark paid by salary for. Fire. Gosh? No one asked US Zach. Chicago Poison Control Center also on their? Traumatic music they have. It's worse a laugh track in in sitcoms networks. They have the dramatic in hospitals that are always every single scene is is life or death at space? Force needed a laugh drag. Just give me a hint. I'm supposed to laugh because I wasn't. Seeing an opportunity. I will say this final season of homeland has been actually pretty good I. Think we're. Seven or eight episodes. Yeah. Lists but the final season. Bearings. Skip ahead and just watch what I do best. Skip ahead. There's nothing really tied truly well. I jumped off after about season four. Telling you. If you want to just settle in, you're looking for something and you're like well. Just try the final season of homeland. Carry have been fire eighty. She's crazy pile. She's on her meds, so. It's about time. You're in jeopardy of billion time and she's really. I don't know if I'm using this word correctly, but in the Pantheon of great. You just do that in the future. Can you swing big with big words? Sometimes you'RE GONNA. Get it sometimes not do that more often progress, but anyhow, yes, in the Pantheon. Of what do you think that means? Explain Pantheon. Right Spell Pantheon one hundred dollars pan. P., A., N., T. The T. H.. One hundred dollars of. What letters B. It's pant. H. E. O. N. got it. Why explain it? Pantheon is like. A vast amount. So like in the Pantheon of. TV series he's. Stupid dusty. Season about is one of the best seasons of anything or act the second or `second season's. The third season is throw me into a brick wall had pantheon of bad episodes. Pantheon about episodes in the Pantheon of good TV. It's right there in the Pantheon Yeah. The definition mark well I mean I'm I'm looking at unfortunately looking up the the Pantheon involving Rome having temple. Right like we. Use It in a sentence when sauce goes through Vegas Breakfast, Buffet, he and Theon of Waffles. Is that right Paul that I use it correctly? No, it's a group practically respected famous or important people. That finish in two or TV series. He's. Very specific. Research all the idiots. All. Union villages all the. You stand alone my friend Pantheon. Right. Builders and remodelers brings you fan five Rosie. Let's talk about this. Okay, this is This is your generation. This is a big deal. WES UNSELD of the died at age seventy four recently was battling pneumonia, but he's had some lengthy health issues finals in one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety eight. I brought this up earlier, but I remember this. When he was with us, but I had forgotten about it until yesterday. That Kevin Love's middle name was Wesley after I. Did, not know that because his dad played with them I think ride bullets. Wesley Love. Here's the proverbial bowl in China shop. In the NBA. He was not not a guy that had that wasn't Kareem wasn't what was. He was just He would bowl his way in their. Knock knock you down like bowling pins in Get the basket and just hard nose player. I remember watching him and we didn't get as much exposure keeping people Was Not a big deal when West's on salt was playing. You couldn't find games on television I remember when the NBA Championship was put on tape delay. When I was working early on channel for the Celtics someone remember. The GOPHERS had to come down to watch the game on TV because lie because it was on tape delay because no one cared about watching, think about so we didn't get a chance to watch the WESTLAND souls of the world very off because they were never on TV. We'd like you had cable wasn't didn't exist, so you didn't get to see West unseld because you were watching bowl in Chicago. Well in Chicago when basketball was watching mastering at time, and all the family and Mary Tyler Moore. was watching any you're right. We mentioned this earlier and then temporarily debated it before we verified a bit at six seven, he is. He has I should say the most rebounds ever for a player, six, eight or shorter, believe thirteen, thousand, seven, hundred and sixty nine career rebounds for Wes unseld just. Say physically gift. Of course he was, but mean he just has all effort I mean. We watched during the last dance, Rodman's ability rebound, and when he did ferociously, and wes unseld was that kind of a player that he would just have that extra effort and went end up with the ball. Somehow some way I'm sure he just brute strength in those hands of his, but yeah he was a terrific, terrific basketball, thirteen, thousand, seven, hundred and sixteen anchor rebounds data career like that with. Wow, that Pantheon of rebound was that Pantheon layers. You played with see. There's a swath of players of the best yeah. NO DOUBT Headlines when we get back okay. Lambert Oh. That's right. We got to do that for a couple of minutes. Lambert I, of course I knew that. Quick Lee legal updates with Jeff. When we get back, then we'll do headlines. This is the power trip morning. Show on the fan. Rules. Welcome back to the power here morning. Joe Hawks back on Monday Rosie Marnie are here I. Guess the Morning Fuming. Sauces actual dad is not mark Rosen. It's just Lambert and he's an actual lawyer. Jeff Lord Corey that's going on. Are you on a Jeffrey Hey. You know your son's got a new lady friend and he won't tell us about her at all. I've met her. To Oh. I'd better to. You won't even tell me her name. Jaffe off the air. He won't share anything. He's keeping her secret and I can't as well sorry. Attorney client. Thing. Pantheon privilege. Which? We talked about the civil rights charges in walk us through those we could real quick, but let me let me step back to something a little lighter, the statute of limitation run out hero Baskin for people. That weren't listening earlier. A county sheriff and Florida's declaring that the will of Carol. Baskin's long-missing husband was forged, so they are if you are one of those people that believes that she killed him If you watch the tiger king documentary, the we'll being forged was a big part of the evidence is that she may have had something to do with it well, they're same. It was forged, but the statute of limitations has expired in the State of Florida Oh mine. So what they're talking Oh what they're talking about is anything criminals for that forgery? Any criminal charges because the due to the forgery that's in in Florida's a five year statute. That's Ron and the other thing they're saying is well. The wheels already been determined to be balanced by judge, and he's distributed the estate, so there's really not anything we can do. I don't know about that. That fraud I. I would explore that further down there, but the statue of limitations has to do with. Bringing any criminal action against her or anybody else. That may have forged a that's. That's run, so no criminal statute. So the again summarize Minnesota Department human rights is launching the civil. Rights investigation into the Minneapolis police. Department, following the death of George, Floyd Connotation three complex. Take us through the steps and we are with, but what what what what they've. They're basing this obviously off the the death of George Floyd. Claiming that that was discrimination, and then they've added honoring. COMPL- claimed further that the department Minneapolis Police. Department has engaged in systematic discrimination and they want to investigate going back ten years, so they've opened up this investigation basically they bring a charge. This is all an administrative proceeding within the Department of Human Rights. They Will Minneapolis and Minneapolis Police Department will respond. The department will then investigate. They've got subpoena powers to go after to get witnesses to testify and to request production of documents, and eventually an administrative law judge for in the department will make a determination as to whether or not discrimination has occurred, and if has been. He's got a variety of remedies that he can impose. Typically with a typical employer it would be. Some sort of damages and attorney's fees would be in. That's certainly within the realm, but more importantly in this case the administrative law. Judge has the authority to issue. It's called a cease and desist order which would Basically instruct the Department of the Minneapolis Police Department to stop engaging in these practices, and he has further ability to. Extend that order to make other orders that would help him enforce that all of that is within the administrative process of the Department of Human Rights when that is completed or at the at the at the conclusion, either party for example. If the state feels that they're not complying, they can go to court and get get the courts involved, and then get court sanctions as well as court orders if the department while in general the. The party that loses in in the most in the case where a company or entity is found to be discriminating can appeal that to the to the court and so the courts would could eventually get involved in this, but what I'm seeing as it sounds like the Minneapolis. At least the city of Minneapolis is going to be cooperating There's GonNa be obviously some tension between the city either apartment and probably the the union. As this thing proceeds. But that overall is sort of a and it could take up to well. This could be one of the cases where the Department of human rights certifies us as a complex case, which it certainly is going to be, which could extend the time for investigation, and and and the time on it. We'll ever. Does on the way you described it. Implies very involved the question I have is how unique is this and we'll do you think given the state of what's going on in our country? Will other states follow suit because it seems to be unique to Minnesota at the moment? What what's happened here in the past? Well, I, I think it I, it is unique I. Don't think that Char charges such as this I've ever been. Certainly not in Minnesota, and certainly not against the largest police department in the state so from that standpoint, it's clearly unique but I do think that Minnesota this certainly may be followed and other states and we can't kid ourselves that Minnesota or Minneapolis isn't the only department that may be engaging in some sort of discriminatory practices and especially what's come to light over the last couple of weeks? Not, were you at all surprised that there were zero charges filed against the truck driver on thirty five, not not not really I mean as we talked the other day. his actions. After he got into that crowd just didn't come just didn't go along with him trying to do anything. malicious and it. It appears that at least that he them that was the case and They've released him without charges. Marnie yes lawyer Lambert Hello Nice to. Chat with you. D How? Close Do. You think we are. To charges being filed or not filed, but some sort of. Finality to the other three officers involved in George flight step. Well I mean what I heard. And what apparently is being reported through the lawyer for the family. They've been told that the charges against the other three will come down some time. Before the service for Mr Floyd in in Houston. Which I believe is next week sometime. So I think that that's that it will probably hear sooner rather than later on that I think the and Minnesota. General is now involved in the case, and they're going to ramp that up and come up with a decision. Jeff I got I got one more question. This is down the road. and this has more to do with. What. How do you pronounce the COP? The worst charged in the murder. Stop it child yeah. When it comes to the jurisdiction, and how does that work with people during common show yesterday, people think. Could he get a fair trial and Hennepin County? Walk quickly through that process and how that determination is made, were that trial with potentially be held sure so so the trial would typically be held in Hennepin county because that's where the offence occurred, but both parties or the judge could determine that He can't get a fair trial and Hennepin County. You know I I've talked to a couple of people the other day I'm wondering what county in Minnesota he could get a fair trial In fact, you look at the the. I wonder if there's somewhere in the world I mean Paris is having huge saw that I mean. It's all over the world so eventually though this will I think we'll at least from the standpoint of a getting a fair trial will die down and there'll be. may have to go through a lot of jurors to get that, but but if you remember the case, I mean that was fairly a lot of publicity on that and but nothing near what this is. This is going to be very difficult in normally what you would do you. You'd move the the trial to another county. Saint Louis County up in Duluth or you know clay. County and morehead or somewhere out of the out of the Hennepin County, area, but you're still. You're still going to have that. How were they take before we start? Actually proceedings a trial began. Oh I, you're you're looking at I I'm guessing you're looking at a good year well. Interesting and he just stays incarcerated until then if unless he hosts half a million dollars bail he he's got the half a million dollars bail. My question would be what he wanted to post it, and then what would he do? Get Out I. Don't Yeah, he he could get out with the by post. Even the bail but right now he is I think safely. Secure at the at Oak Park. Hydro. Jeff thanks man anytime. Guys Take Care of you later. That's rebulk comes in bulls, really good at selecting jurors. A show to understand that I'm not watching that work drama when we're in the goal is just because hawks here doesn't mean we have to bring out bowl. Good at it. got. Hockey loves bad beat. Out The guy goes down hard, but the the guy deserves a fair trial. That's the whole bit. We talking about it all week George. Floyd didn't get one. He deserved one night absolutely, but my dad even made the point on the phone yesterday. John Wayne Gays. You got a fair trial. He earliest. He deserves a fair trial. We want a fair trial. Everything I just wish. I wish we had the laws of the state. Like other states. Were those trials televised right? I really think. It'd be fascinating would be we also. Think about watching. OJ trial you. Must See TV well. There's feudal states have them. They have in making a murder. WHO's a televised I televise. I thought it was I thought they were understand, or is that I don't remember yeah. Anyway I. Wish we did it would be I think it would be an important thing maybe. Will be moved to a state where they haven't. I'd love to move to. Lance Ito back on the stand God whatever happened to Lansing. Zach your hand up. You're laughing over there. During the interview been fun play during the break and we'll see. Yeah might not be appropriate, yeah. We'll headlines after that. This is the power to your morning. Show on the fan. and. You know this dot. com I don't, but I love this song. There's a talk dance for the. Extremely Popular Tiktok Showing how it goes. You don't even There's no shoveling and Jack Hammering. That's the police's dynamite. Embracing the. Sachets to laugh now. Packed like a fiddler on the roof tap dance. What is this? Doing their wedding mayor. Marty either of YOU OH! Marty looked like she was doing. Ten year old, but it's a very popular TIKTOK. I don't even know what the song the song called deck boy flaming whites by the weekend on the fan. Okay Google Blinding Lights tiktok dance Kirtley's. I can't believe you haven't. Heard or seen now I don't think you need to be on Tock to know this. Area. So they run in. and. Then it kind of starts slower your Lego and then your arms go. Zach treading water. Zack's. Ben. Lieber family has done this, Dan you know what I think? I've seen it this dance dance. Dance. Looks like a kind of a Richard Simmons sweating to the Oldies Mu. The weekends thrilled before that. I've given you something to do for the rest of the day tic TACs. YOUR WOKE SMARTY! Yes, frigging Murray. Remark. Now. It's time for. Why. All right Marnie. Don't ask for contacts. I don't have any. Headlines Are you ready. Let's start with some corona virus headlines depressing as you think. It is. The six hundred a week in extra unemployment pay. We'll probably end on July thirty first. Right when the? NBA Season started. Not One hundred percent, but it looks like that's what's going to happen is that it's going to end July thirty first. Let's extend. We now have the first confirmed case of a pet dog in the US catching Ron virus. It's a German shepherd in New York. He's expected to make a full recovery. Well, that's. Remember when we heard about that tiger at the zoo or multiple tigers in also New York. It's kind of a major story for like a day and then nothing happened. SCAR. Force going to be depressing. Question. How do they test dogs? Corona virus. Well they take the Pantheon of the whole. Free of all. The US at Swab. Probably noticed curious. I don't know what looked like that now. It's a fair question. What kind of symptoms your dog? Showing Dogs. Here's. All your does. Your twisted part here's a she does. He has to lady. She's a disaster. According to a new survey. Based on the corona virus. Out of ten people how many claim they won't get on a plane until there's a vaccine while out of. Ten on average. How many say! Back, seen one that's I'm thinking low. Three three I'm Laura Mardi, three or four that five. Four four of ten claim, they will not get on a plane until there's a vaccine. I'm in the other group. I'm in the six. Lane I would not like to be in the middle seat. However, I would be really. Anymore do they they don't sell them. Yeah, no, I remember. We saw photos from like United Airlines or something like that, and this was early on. They were selling every seat. People were freaking says. That's not happening. They're dragging the people out of there to make them right. She how many won't go to a restaurant until the vaccine inside. Yeah won't go into a restaurant until there's a vaccine. Sam I think most of the restaurants are have been prepared to safely social distance with the with lay out of the restaurant I would probably go to. I like to be different three. Rosie nailed it again to wake rosy. Ask lacked in. Final One with Krona virus headlines Marina some fun stuff. A portable, a portable device that kill corona virus and other diseases on surfaces with UV light could be the next device that all of us end up carrying in the future, and they're saying that's something that just may come on thing. We're just all GONNA. Cost of time carry some kind of UV light cleaning products. Should we not all have this for our cell phones? Anyway? Good good point if only for ourselves. Yeah Wall said. When did you know that the patent for that and just a quick follow before you move on to other topics, corey the corona virus, daily numbers of like confirmed cases have been very low the last couple of days like three hundreds, maybe where they had been seven and eight hundred and I. Don't know if that's because. With everything else that's going on. People just have not taken the time to go get tested, but for whatever the reason should we be sort of bracing ourselves for huge numbers? Because a there was you know there was sharing a lot of germs over the last week or be like people just haven't been going because they've been preoccupied with so many other things, and now they're all GonNa Flood. The testing their numbers are just going to be skyrocketing. Those things are good question. Even before this happened, the state was preparing to the hospital I we go to was expecting. An anticipated might be the best word Sergio June and July so that was before all this happened, and these are all valid points because. It's really been out of our. Yes, not top of mind, no! At all I, I can't even it's barely. Information and what's going on I mean you gotTa really search for I searched for it yesterday because I was thinking the same thing and I the the positive tests yesterday in Minnesota was in the three hundreds, and that was less than half of what it had been for like the previous week or two weeks. A woman in North Carolina Delays Sheriff's vehicle, and then crashed it into a lake, and the officer who chased her, also wound up crashing their car into the lake. What is it Michael Scott with GPS? Well that Might are mysteriously. Getting smaller and scientists are trying to figure out why. What. Scientifically, getting smaller shrinking and nobody knows why are they not getting enough calcium? Let's leave it to the Seinfeld. And humans as a species are larger taller. Maker sure we are bigger than rents were taking it. We stopped. We stopped breeding with short people like hockey. What I'm saying I mean you gotta breed with Taller people to get taller. That breed short people write. Drafts necks got longer because they kept breeding with the people people, the drafts that could action the region the food if you had the hockey of grass going blunt starving, because I can't reach that treaty. Yeah, but my next deal cute, they go. You have no use to me and you might. Children would be a disaster. I'm not bringing you look at hockey. Not, in public hockey, stop doing bright stop. Yourself. New Words every segment. Scientists have found cannabis residue and artifacts in an ancient temple in Israel. There you go sauce hell. Yeah, you weren't so. Yes. was. What did I say? They found cannabis. something nailed it in artifacts in Israel. Can. Do Yeah artifacts. Sometimes when you run out of weed, sometimes you get a screaming the resolution. Marijuana Mott's always going together. Today is National Day. Like your eggs because I don't like him at all. Over media. Zach, one hundred percent omelette I'm or scrambled. For. She's on their. Eggs Benedict. Oh Man, he says the best eggs benedict on the planet. I missed. A man in California was arrested on suspicion of murdering his ninety year, old grandmother and attempting to eat her body when the cup showed up. Raw. Young what the hell. A man in California on rested on suspicion of murdering his ninety year, old grandmother, and attempting to eat her body when the COP showed up. How far I think he was really get along with that process. Past, the expired it. Home God. Hey, great news for your Canadian friends, Accu City at friends in Canada yeah, cool ranch doritos are finally available in Canada again after a shortage caused by de Corona virus well good. Yeah I guess shortage. According to the story, the supply was low anyway, because before the pandemic, there wasn't much of a demand for them in candidate at all, but once they started somehow for some reason, everybody wanted them, and no one can find him, so it's like we don't like these. As soon as you were told, you can't have these. Then everybody wanted him. It was like the forbidden fruit, but it was ranch doritos in Canada or Nacho cheese available. That's the only flavor of Doritos Wail Oh. I love to read I two. Oh, they're! Almost come. Her lately wiped out at the Grocery store yesterday. Is Pickles Yeah. Pickles Wail Awful worshiping. You and I really get along, and you know what the worst thing is rosy. Take out. Yeah, and you don't like pickles Iran, but they assume everybody wants pickles. Then he could take them out of the box, but the juices already. Is. Everything tastes like pick right now. No Homeland. Higher behind pickles. Are the best thing. Any kind of. kind of meat between two bonds of a pickle. Hamburger is only good. The pickles trudel the best part. Jersey Mike's over here. Their sandwiches are good. They're amazing because of the pickle. A was asked right. People have seen this psychosis out of me in the past, but if you are, you're a restaurant that serves construction fries site, and there's a pickle as like aside beer right? The juice embrace chicken finger. pickled touches. Off Limits for me. Pickle juice chicken fan. McCain canes doesn't have yes, it grow. bread-and-butter, yes, stack the staggers the flat one. NICHOLS TOMMY PICKLES PICKLES ON SANDWICH Last quick. Quick A woman named Emily. Sims from Illinois has the new Guinness World Record for the longest and largest overdue library book fine. This is gonNA. Be Great. She returned a poetry book called days indeed deeds that her mother checked out on either of nineteen fifty five. What was the fine for a book? She returned from nine, thousand, nine, hundred, fifty, five, well I gotta believe the it to like blockbuster video. Use the wave of those fees I would think. She paid it in nineteen fifty five fine was. This is the is according to what they wanted to thank God from her. She paid this paid it about the charging like fifty bucks per one hundred. This world record largest overdue. Thousands. Of the with the book itself was large. Okay number, but still at some point. Don't you just pay a loss book? Find and. Work at stop sixty nine dollars. Your points us. If you knew it was six grand, we just say well I lost. I'm not returned. The fine was three hundred and forty five dollars in fourteenth, says dust ashy paid it. What's it like a penny a day while fifty five? That'd be one year. This isn't math, but. We learned over the last half hours. This is not English class about pickles though. Don't. Mushrooms well I I'll tell you what I did with my pickles. PICKLED DIP and I'm getting Zach snack coming over. Not Coming over. Friday at the State Fair that I had to use staffers I needed spears. They're out at the grocery store. Why are pickles outranged? Sounds like sauces eating? All of them has fried pickle spears I. Paul Allen is now. Your time. We'll see next Wednesday Wednesday tomorrow. Rosy right you back tomorrow. See You tomorrow. Back to today's power trip morning show forty here. Previous show podcast is on the iheartradio APP or KFI DOT COM.

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"You want it you need it. It's what everyone's talking about the Kevin Sheehan show now. Here's Kevin Ahrens here. I'm here That's the group today. We've got some things to get to. I just noticed something for the first time and Erin said that it's happened before I still get the Washington Post delivered to my house The actual paper I would probably guess that eighty percent of the time. I actually don't open up the newspaper because I've read what I've wanted to read on line by the time I get around to. You know the paper even though gets delivered. I'm pretty early and either the night before the day before. So many of these stories that appear in next day's paper have already been available to be consumed I do like it on the weekends. Typically you know when there's actually sports To read But I just noticed something than Erin. Set has happened a couple of times. I guess this will be the second time Saturday was the first day. Saturday was the first day because yesterday they had a normal sportscenter. Sunday will be very thin. Yes but they don't even have the sports section is a standalone section. This is in the back of the style section today. So you have in the post today your front page your Metro Section your style section and at the top of the style section. There's a headline that says Olympic officials concede. Tokyo Games may need to be postponed. Sports is on C. Ten through C. Twelfth Style section is section C of the paper Look there's nothing to write about I mean. Nfl Free Agency is a big deal and you get to the back of the style section and there is a one to three page sports section at the very back IFC concedes. Postponing Games is on the table. Which was a new story from yesterday? The Canadian Olympic team by the way the Canadians have backed out of the Olympics altogether. But that was based on a start time of this summer I don't know when they would postpone them to. I mean let's get real. Of course they're not going to happen as scheduled Because if they did there would be a lot of countries that wouldn't show up. You know similar to for different reasons. You know nineteen eighty in the Moscow. Games were the United States and other countries did not go because at that point The Russians had invaded Afghanistan and that was a big World issue that many countries had problems with Jimmy. Carter made the decision during those eighty Olympic Games which by the way was following the eighty lake placid games which produced the hockey the US hockey winner. The miracle on ice That particular summer there were no Olympic Games for the US in Moscow. But I mean the Tokyo Games aren't going to happen on time if they do postpone them. They're gonNA postpone them until the fall when we are definitely getting to the point where we are. GonNa have just about every single sport. Participating in some of their biggest games in most meaningful games all in the fall and winter. I was GONNA say September and October if passed this. If we're through this could be the greatest two months stretch in the history of sports. Well it's GonNa be really hard though to consume everything because everything's going to be on at the same time but it'll be still wonder if it'll be. It'll heal vk chaotic. But YOU'RE GONNA have to make choices unless you have four. Tv's in your in your room because you're GonNa have like for me as an example. Let's just say that September and October you have the beginning of the college football and NFL season. Which is always our favourite. Yes You also have you know. Two three of the Gulf majors pushed back into those months. 'cause they weren't played including the Masters. October and maybe the US Open September. You know that Thursday Friday Saturday and Sunday opposite football you know. Especially if tigers in the mix right you're going to make some tough choices You can have the Olympics going on which I'm GonNa tell you right now for me would be back in the list. Even though I love the Summer Olympics I love track and field. I love the basket ball. You know. Obviously it's a great mid-day Midweek Women's gymnastics along with women's figure. Skating in the Winter Olympics are two of the most consumed sporting events every four years. And are they going to be going up Saturday night against Auburn Georgia? Good luck with that you know. Imagine the the arguments in in some households. No we're watching the gymnast or the Win. The US gym gymnastics teams. Going tonight Yet no we've got We've got Bama and LSU tonight that usually takes place in an no. I'm just. I'm pulling out the October Alabama schedule. Let's hear Alabama. I just saw a game against Georgia Alabama Georgia September nineteenth. Yeah okay that or a third round of the. Us Open third round of the NBA playoffs. Were in the conference semi-finals of the NBA playoffs. Oh by the way the. Nhl Playoffs have just advanced to the second round in the caps made it through their first round series with the penguins in six games. And you've got the Olympics going on. What am I missing tennis majors? Were were now rolling Wimbledon out in September with you. S- open to follow in In in October I mean you're GonNa have a lot of Oh and what if the NC Double A. Tournament? Just says you know what we're going to try to put together something for September. They won't have that won't happen Anyway The Post has a sports section in the back of the style section. Part reason for that is that they're sports writers have been assigned to do non-sports things that make sense to me. I didn't even know that But that makes a Lotta sense to me. All right There are a few things I want to get to today before I get to the main thing I want to get to today and that is something that my radio station is doing and actually I think is pretty cool right now and makes for a really good diversion The radio station the team nine eighty dot COM. I host seven to ten. Am in the mornings. Most of you know that you can listen on the team. Nine eighty dot com the team. Ninety APP I would also suggest that if you usually listen to my show in the car or any of our shows in the car and you're not in the car for the same reason to usually are in the car and you've got Alexa or Google home. Just you know tell Alexa to put on the team. Nine eighty And And you can listen to the shows at home that way. If you don't have a radio most people I don't think most people have a radio in their home anymore. That would be my guess radio when you're not a traditional rate yes. Sometimes I'll listen to whatever on the computer right not a stream things on your computer. Most people don't have most people under the age of forty. I would guess not have a radio in their home but anyway So we are doing We're doing the ultimate DC sports star bracket. Okay and I'll explain it more here coming up in a layout the bracket for you and tell you how you can participate. It's actually I think it'll be really interesting in and the group that put together the bracket which I had nothing to do with Those of us who are on the air essentially decided not to be a part of the selection committee. Chris Johnson our program director. Cj and a couple of others put the bracket together there is a lot of complaining about the bracket that's for sure So we will get to that Here shortly but I wanted to start with a couple of things That aren't as fun necessarily first of all. What are you people doing that? Were down looking at the cherry blossoms. Have you heard about Corona virus? Have you heard about social distancing? Have you heard about gatherings of more than ten? People look are cherry blossoms in this city are beautiful this time of year. They are beautiful to look at and I will tell you when the kids were younger. That was always a great. You know what are we going to do on Saturday morning? We gotTA GOTTA be active. We gotta be busy. Let's do something fun and we would drive down and we would walk walk around the tidal basin and it really is. It's beautiful it really is very very pretty We're going through something as a country here as a world that is requires all of us to participate in a hopeful pleasant outcome and the title Basin wisp packed with people after Muriel. Bowser are very capable mayor. I believe and by the way unlike our president. She's a terrific communicator It's the way I feel. I think she does a really good job in his done. A really good job during this crisis in communicating But basically she had implored people not to you know. Go down there. And now she's got to order the Metropolitan Police Department and the DC National Guard to enforce basically a restricted access zone around the tidal basin to prevent the spread of Kovic nineteen the corona virus. I mean did you see some of the videos and the pictures how crowded it was there. I couldn't believe it. I mean it's one thing last week to laugh at all the spring breakers down in Florida. They're all eighteen. Nineteen twenty twenty one years old and you know self absorbed to a certain degree in clueless to a certain degree in. Oh by the way not feeling very vulnerable. Which by the way. I'm sure I felt like at twenty twenty one twenty two years old as well. I would probably on spring break. All right So there but this was these were grown ass adults it you know by the hundreds and thousands at the title basin like it was a normal cherry blossom. Spring March Day My God I mean seriously how. `Bout to stay in your car and go down there and drive around him and stay in your car you can see him and look their neighborhoods. I'm not going to mention the neighborhoods because they are I'm sure not wanting a rush of of incremental you know visitors but there are a couple of neighborhoods in the city that have beautiful cherry blossoms as well where you can drive around and see him. You know You can watch him on Youtube. All right there's lots of blossom stuff on youtube but you can't gather you know a in hordes walking around the title Basin for crying out loud at blew me away As did the president's press conference yesterday which was like I look a lot of. You don't want me talking about this stuff but I'm sorry it's my show. I'll talk about whatever I want. And and again it's no reflection of my political beliefs. Most of you. It's very funny when you tweet me. After some of these rants. You're like you know Jesus Christ. I had no idea you were such a hard line conservative. Jesus Christ I had no idea you were such a bleeding heart liberal. Well I mean I'm not either Sort of just a pragmatist centrist Fiscally probably more conservative and socially probably more progressive. That's probably what I am. I E I look at every issue and just come up with what I think. The answer should be regardless of political affiliation. It's the way I've always been but besides that our president is not a good communicator. And he's terrible in this crisis period. Great Front runner. I'm sure for a lot of you. You know no issues economy booming people employed you know he can continue with basically would have been campaign ongoing campaign press conferences over and over again you know and slapping himself on the back over and over again e we're in a crisis right now. I've mentioned this couple of times. I talked about it the other day. If you've ever read anything about leadership There's no worse combination of a crisis leader than narcissism and limited intellectually and the combination of both deadly. They're they're very very difficult so I think even his ardent supporters would certainly agree watching these last two. What they call briefings Aaron which have turned into ninety minute to two hour. You know Basically let me tell you how great I am Press conferences it. It's remarkable to me. I mean there are a lot of things about the last three years that I think I personally think have been very good and there are a lot of things that I have not agreed with. He is a terrible communicator and terrible as a leader in the crisis in a crisis the the lack of self awareness is startling to me and again I've got I've got friends that are ardent trump supporters. And by the way I respect their opinion very much I A- friends who are ardent anti trumpers and I respect and listen to their opinion but almost everybody agrees here during this crisis that this is not what you would refer to in the trade as great leadership Especially as a communicator. Now what we don't know is what's going on in these task force meetings. I watched this interview with Ouchi last night. He was on Mark Levin Fox and say whatever you want about Mark Levin. I'm not going to weigh in. Its you know. He's very very extreme right And to me the extremes on both sides our uncomfortable to watch but that that said It was a very interesting interview with FAO. She who you know you got to know a little bit personally and you got to know about him going through this crisis with the president and everybody else and the net of it is. Is this foul? She says these task force meetings have been first rate professional and that he's gotten no pushback from the president on any of the science. Now we've seen how the press conferences. Sorta roll out with him either. Conflicting or contradicting the science and the doctors or being hopeful and wishful. Against what is may be more probable all of that but FAO Chea- you know and again maybe. He has no incentive as of this thing to be overly critical but he sort of went out of his way to say these task force meetings have been incredibly productive and You know have have resulted in a lot of things that are helping. I think the bottom line is in and what I got from FAO. Ci Last Night Erin is that there's still so much unknown about this. There's just still so much unknown. What they are really hopeful about. Is that cutting off the border to China quickly. Cutting off the border. You know the entrance From Europe and all of this. Social distancing mitigation plan Can slow the spread a lower healthcare to gear up properly which it struggling in New York and California and Washington among. You know those those three states And that it off faster like it didn't South Korea it has basically in Russia. Man Look at the results in Russia. I don't know if anybody's been following that. They've had considering their population. They've had very few cases apparently and I was reading something late last night. Putin and the Russians had a real plan for a pandemic and a lot of that was closing off borders with China which is right next on closing up. Borders with other countries had problems immediately. Instituting things like social distancing and quarantining and self quarantining and self-isolation and as of now compared to you know a lot of countries that are that are nearby They are Having very few cases I think it's going to be interesting when all this said is said and done to sort of look at the you know some of certainly a communist country in China and you know The the political environment. Russia which is much different than than ours. Um to see what they did and how they plan for. And maybe there's going to be a lot to learn Hopefully the world will come together and be able to learn from each other and help each other. You know one of the things I heard last night. This is no time to for vengeance against countries like Iran who are struggling mightily. And I know that's a significant argument. Um beat people are having it on both sides personally I always err on the side of of being human When when places it's a cheap price to pay for A potential Help in other areas anyway. Some of you would probably disagree with that. But I'm not going to get into that. How `Bout Mirabal Zor though just basically saying all right I I asked you not to go down to the tidal basin. And you didn't pay attention so now we gotta have our police and National Guard there one dimension something else do before it got to this bracket An before we get to the Quinton Dunbar. Stuff from over the weekend The Did you see the Brady Story? Did you read the South Worker Sham story on? Espn DOT com of the weekend about Brady or not I don't think I read that specific story. It's a good read I think we're shamed as a really good job with his lengthy sort of investigative. Ccs's get more often than not the thing that came out of That I I'll spend a two minutes talking about is that Brady asked for one thing from the buccaneers after the deal was done. And that was the phone numbers of all the wide receivers that that was his first move to reach out to all the wide receivers but then came. Another part of the story and other stories is that he is not asked about Jersey Number. He did not make his signing in. Tampa Bay required a requirement that he get number twelve which is worn by very good wide receiver. Cris God yes. Who's been very productive And owns that Jersey number twelve now. Godwin basically told either sports illustrated or somebody else About the the Jersey number that Brady is certainly somebody that if if Brady asks I will certainly give him. His career has warranted the just handed over to or acid plus a prolly plug plus much less money. I'm sure he'll he'll make brady pay for charitable donations also said Brady. Isn't you know that interested in it? That he's won't go out of his way because he'd like to keep it as well you know. He's trying to create some leverage Here's the actual quote from Godwin This was on. Nfl DOT COM quote. My phone's been blowing up nonstop on all my social tax calls. Everybody wants to know the same thing When he was asked about you know Tom Brady. Twelve and number twelve. He says quote for me. I'm very passionate about the number. It's something I've been wearing since I was in high school. But at the end of the day if he doesn't want it then I'll keep it close quote. He's essentially saying that if he asks he'll consider it but he doesn't ask he's keeping it like he's not offering it up necessarily but he also says look if he does want it out of respect for everything. He's accomplished and everything that he's done. I kind of have to defer to him. He's the goat. Yeah you know. But he's GONNA WANNA get paid for that. Sure he's going to get paid or he's going to ask for a sizeable contribution to his charity or probably. Both of those things yes. Obviously he's not giving it up for free. But yeah I mean if Brady for whatever reason doesn't want it if he wants to leave that in New England which I don't see happening during the TB twelve brand. Then yeah no reason. Godwin would give it up I am. I have a feeling that Brady isn't gonNA make a big deal out of this. I'd the TB. Twelve thing is only thing that's his company. That's his stand that I I understand that I do. But that brand. I don't think is negatively impacted. If he's wearing number ten on Sundays I really don't. I mean everybody knows Tom Brady was twelve and not be twelve is and everybody understands that. And if he's wearing number ten which by the way would be his next choice. It's his college number. Which receiver named Scotty Miller who was a sixth round pick last year by the buccaneers and played a little bit this year? For the bucks. That's his number right now like if Brady says you know this dude. We don't even know if he's going to make the team. I'll take number ten Which was the again. His number two Michigan. I'M NOT GONNA be surprised if he doesn't push for this. You know I don't know if Brady superstitious or not. You know. He wore number ten at Michigan. He was a sixth round. Pick obviously in two thousand and HE WORE THE JERSEY. He was given when he got when he got to New England. He was just worried about making the team I don't know I mean I. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up wearing something other than If you wear something other than number twelve. It's just not him. I don't think too like you know. Pull rank over a really productive wide receiver. Who just said the numbers important to him. It's not pulling rank though it's about you know getting number and again it's not like he's GonNa say he's the new guy he's and he's always been in always positioned himself as I need to prove something. He's always in that mode of needing to prove something. It's it's something that's made him so great like it doesn't matter that he's won six superbowls bowls. He's got up. He always feels like he's got something to prove in. Those kinds of people are never satisfied with success and they never believe in themselves of being above everybody else. I'm telling you I think that's the way Brady is think it's part of what's made him so great. I'll make what kind of odds would you give me that? He that he wears number twelve doesn't wear number twelve. GimMe Gimme a number right now. Plus two hundred. I mean I would take that. I think that it's probably closer to plus three hundred. Yeah probably that's that's what I'm going to give you. Okay that's fair. I'll take you know what I'll take. Actually I want five to two one plus two fifty I couldn't care less personally. Remember the You know we were going through this radio this morning. It was pretty funny because I couldn't remember the name of the player than everybody tweeted. Texted me This could be This could be you know at this point age where I start to forget names but anyway I remembered the story of Clinton Portis when he got here in two thousand four when he was traded for and he wanted to wear number twenty six was the number he was wearing in Denver. And and twenty six was also tw- Twenty six was as a University of Miami Jersey number right. I believe. That's I think it was and I was trying to up with the name. And the Guy who was wearing number twenty six who Clinton paid off for it and everybody got it to me. Was IFFY ANY OLA. He was a safety for the team. If you recall Clinton you know has cut a deal to get number twenty six and the deal terms that I have that was reported on his portis was GONNA pay thirty eight thousand dollars in two installments to Allay Tei for Number Twenty. Six and he never paid that second second installment so they went to court. They went to court over the thing and it got ugly. You know I've never. I don't think I've ever asked Clinton about it. but You know and I forget if it got settled before went to court or it was going to go to court to be honest with you. I forget the details of that part but The next time we have Clinton on the show Remind me to ask him about what he paid If that's accurate in how white became a legal matter and if it with he really I think one of the reasons Clinton if I recall Clinton didn't pay the second half is ole wasn't on the team anymore you know he got cut or traded. I think he got cut. Which by the way. It shouldn't matter at all. I mean the payment was. I can't imagine it was contingent on Ola making the team. The course of the payments being made right but anyway I think Brady's GonNa wear a different number. I I would take the the the the plus two fifty if you'll give me plus two fifty. Okay I'll give you a plus two perfect done I wanted to get to something. We were working on at nine. Eighty Actually it's pretty cool in. Were looking for things to do here. I mean we're everybody's looking for things to do here and the station put together a bracket with playing games and everything and you can vote on all of these matchups round by round on the team team nine hundred on twitter account and go to the team nine hundred dot com as well but basically it is an all time. Dc SPORTS STAR BRACKET AND. It's not first of all no. Baltimore involved And There's no Baltimore involved. In its coaches players and team executives owners are not considered in this so in. It's also not you know. Just born in DC it's of DC. Meaning you you were either born here and you had a tremendous high-school impact Or Olympic impact or a professional career. That didn't involve you know Washington impact But you're really known for being from here and having significant success from here or You played here and you weren't from here so the bracket was selected by cj our program director. And I think he had a couple of other people working on it with him and all of the show host basically got access to the bracket this morning and Goldeneye alcohol. The I basically did a selection show this morning on laying out the entire bracket and there are a lot of the lot of arguments you know already on twitter afterwards which is part of the reason for putting this together is it creates interesting conversation but I would urge all of you especially you know you're looking for something else to to focus on other than the news every day A lot of people by the way I've noticed are putting out these brackets right now. I D one of the have you followed the the person that put out the office episode bracket of course. That was actually the office. Did that the official. I didn't realize that because to be honest with you. I don't know that it was really well done. I if I believe unless there's another one going around. I believe the first one was from the the office. Nbc Twitter Account. Okay because you showed this to me on Friday Aaron. I are huge fans. Tommy is two of the office the American version. I'm also a huge fan of the BBC. Version I think the BBC versions two seasons are the funniest two seasons of a Sitcom of all time. But we love the American version. We've referred to it many times on the show before And so you're saying that. Nbc Put out an all time office episode bracket they didn't see them though like there was no seeding now how many how many episodes were in here home. Two four six eight ten twelve looks like six thirty to thirty two episode. Bryce so what even sixty four or sixty eight but A wow they're already to the final four juicy this I haven't been keeping track of the now they're already to you and I both thought that the dinner party you thought this right. I think the dinner parties the single greatest seahawks episode. I think I've ever watched so. I was predicting that the dinner party into the. Oh you're right there to the finals I just. I just pulled up the update. Wow so they've had people voting to advance and the biggest crime for me was that The deposition was going to have to open up against Niagara. Which was JIM and PAM's wedding It was a two episode thing because the deposition to me might be my second favorite episode of all time. Which was the episode prior to the Dinner Party episode right? I'm pretty sure it was one. If it wasn't just prior. It was just after a party. Wait a second. This doesn't make sense to this. They have dinner party as season. Four episode nine and deposition as season four episode twelve. That can't be true that's not true. It's not true so they. They messed that up yet. Yes that that seems like. I thought the depositions one episode before one episode after. I don't know if it's right before right after but it's certainly sit here. Whatever they they've gotten the final four dinner party came at a one. It is your. It's so they they have both of them wrong. Season four episode though they do have the deficits right deposition season for episode. Twelve dinner party season for episode thirteen. Yeah I thought it was right before so dinner. Party is in the final four. They're up against the injury which is a great episode where of course The injury is when Dwight ends up crashing his car Into the poll in the parking lot and ends up being concussed But the injury really it takes starts with Michael basically putting his foot into a George Foreman Grill and burning it favorite. Things ever is the description of how it happened. It's just a matter of fact. I like breakfast in the morning. I Lay offs and Bacon before I go to bed and then I wake up quickly and I start the baking cooking and then I fall back asleep and I wake up to the smell of Bacon. Sumi says she and I thank you. Sumi you know it's a healthy start to the day whatever it was and so. That's the injuries up against the dinner party in one semi final and the Dundee's which is You know the first episode of Season Two Right yes Is Up against stress relief which I would have never would have made it to the FISA. Good episode are good double episode. It's trying to see what it had it. Be Diversity Day come. I had diversity day out of that region. I have you know what got here was a tough first-round match-up branch wars against the finale. I think branch wars is one of the funniest episodes of all tight like God branch. Words is hysterical from the time that they kidnap Jim when Dwight and Michael Kidnap Jim. And they're going to get revenge in UTICA where where you've got. Carry THAT SCENE WITH KAREN. The three of them dressed up like you know work. Mess is is really very funny I so the stress relief. That's a good episode. Don't get me wrong. Stress. Relief is a good episode is up against the Dundee's and stress. Relief is into the final against dinner party. So we were right with one final participant. I would have never guessed stress or stress. Relief at Casino. Night would have been better. The surplus would have been better. I'm looking at the diversity. How do you beat? Diversity shouldn't have beaten diversity. I had diversity coming out of that region. Scott's tots went head to head with diversity day in the in the I mean that's just like Scott's tots on watchable. Some of you are like when are you going to get to the thing you're going to? I'm going to in a minute. We get time and you can always you know fast forward head if you're not an office fan if you're not an office fan seriously do yourself a favor okay during these days where you're you know you got nothing to do. Just pull it up on Netflix. Start with the pilot and go right through get at least through season. Seven seasons eight nine after Steve. Carell leaves the show. Are you know okay? They're not great But if you want to laugh and cringe and by the way just for whatever reason find a comfort. Sitcom the office is the Comfort Sitcom of all time Dinner Parties GonNa win. This was always going to that. That's the one flaw with this. We all know who's going to win beforehand. But I have a problem with stress relief getting to the final four the others. I mean I wouldn't have put the injury I would've had them into the elite eight and Dundee's and dinner party or where my picks for the final four well the Dundee's Did Go to head with casino night for the right to get to final forty love Casino night but this hilarious casino night. It's so good. Starting with Michael ending up having to dates you know and and then you know obviously the Jim and Pam ending. That was the end of season two which I was not watching the show while it was on. Tv light live. I was very. I was incredibly snobbish. When it came to the original office and BBC version and I I did not give the American version at the beginning. A chance I'll timidly gave it a chance on. I love it. I love in some of you. A real quickly Aaron. We've mentioned the Dinner Party episode before I've had people say to me. I had a friend. I remember him calling me. He said yeah he said. You told me to watch the dinner party that it was the greatest. Sitcom episode of all time he goes. I get it. It's cringe worthy of the whole thing and then I thought about it. I'm like you got to build up to the party. You got to know the characters right. Yeah you've got to understand the you've got to have contact one hundred percent for it but with context. I think the greatest what what is a Sitcom twenty two minutes Typically on average. Yes I think. The greatest twenty two minutes of Sitcom comedy of all time is the dinner party episode of the American version of the office I didn't vote on any of these did you were. You might have voted for some of the early ones if I saw it. But I hadn't really looked closely at sunset. They unveiled the bracket and right now with twenty two hours left dinner party versus stress relief in the final dinner. Parties got an eleven percentage point. Lead it's GonNa I'm surprised only light light. It's it's perfect. It's absolutely perfect is so good and nobody was better than John. In that in that episode she was. She was the underrated comedic star because it was so subtle of that show. I always felt that way Not to mention she was a smoke. Show I But by the way real quick about stress relief I had forgotten for material. That was when Dwight did these. Cpr dummy thing which might have that was funny. I was GONNA say that might have been the single funniest in the office. No doubt all right. Let's get to this other thing All right so this alternate DC. Sports Star bracket again It was coaches players team. Executives know owners. Okay JESS DC. And it was a situation where you know. It was their production here whether they were born here and had production as a high schooler or is a four former Later Olympian or if they came here and is a professional or as a college player all right had great success. There's a lot of controversy in this thing The it was a sixty eight person bracket with four actual first four games all right eight people involved in four first-round games to get into the main field in the voting for that's going on right now and I'll update you on that here momentarily. There were four regions. The PG county region. The Montgomery County region. The Fairfax County region and the Arlington County region. And they had nothing to do with where the people were from or played or anything else is just like the East regional in the basketball tournament can have west coast teams. There's no there's no connection there and then the final four is going to be played in d. c. The semifinals at RFK Stadium and the final the championship. Game as a nod to Poland for what he did for this city By building the arena down in Chinatown and really starting sort of a renaissance Of of DC is a city and we've seen all of the incredible downtown areas that we now have that just we didn't have twenty five years ago The championship games to be played a capital. When Reno? We're GONNA play this out by by the way over like a two week period. You know Ending concluding with the night of win the NC double a national championship game would have been all right here. Are here's the bracket you ready. The bracket goes like this the play in games or all sixteens versus sixteenths. So these are eight sixteen seats Howie. Kendrick makes it into the field as a sixteen seat. He's going to go head-to-head today with only Kohl's AG- again. You can vote on that. Kohl's of course the goaltender for the capitals during Their First Stanley Cup final appearance when got swept By the Red Wings in the late nineties Christie Oliver a national champion with the Maryland. Terrapins and a two-time Wnba champion with the mystics. Tala vers a sixteen seed and she goes head to head with already. Somebody who's become very controversial in this conversation Kevin Durant because you either say will durant was from here and had a great MBA career but his only portion of his career was here as a high school star and he's not considered the greatest high school player in history. The city Elgin Baylor is and he gets seated very high A. mentioned him in a moment. So it's tolliver against durant. The other sixteenth seed matchups hymie Marino. Who According to DC. United enthusiasts is the greatest player in DC United History. And he's going to go head to head with Alli Krieger. Who is from here? Okay Mia Hamm by the way is not from here. A Lotta people asked about that She has some connection to hear. I forget what it is I looked at earlier and I forget already but Allie. Krieger went to high school here She became obviously a World Cup Star for the Women's national team and then the last of the sixteen seed matchups boomer esiason arguably the greatest quarterback in the history of Maryland football and one of the greatest football players in Maryland. History Against Charley casserly. Who as general manager comes in his barely making the field as sixteen seat? Where's Bobby Beth? Third-seeded that'll be interesting. So then we get to the actual bracket okay. I guessed before I saw this bracket that the one seeds would come from the following list of people. Joe Gibbs Alex Ovechkin Walter Johnson. Sammy Baugh Darrell Green. And John. Regan's okay and I thought Sonny is an outside shot as a one seed. Those were really the people from my standpoint who were in the running for a one seed. I thought that Max Scherzer's career here wasn't enough yet to be a one. Thought he'd probably be two or three but that was my guests of the list of where the four seeds would come from. So the four seeds ended up being Joe Gibbs in one region Walter Johnson considered by many to be the greatest pitcher in the history of baseball Alex Ovechkin by the way also a World Series Win in nineteen twenty four Alex Ovechkin and then Darryl Green. Those were the four one seeds. So you know you could take exception with Sammy. Baugh not being in their rig or sunny you know potentially or James Arthur monk I mean but I think you can't really debate any one of those four. They're told Vegan meal sons. Yes So then we go into the two seats which I found interesting sugar ray. Leonard was a two seat okay. I'm glad sugar ray. Leonard was not only included in this in that nobody forgot about him but then he was very highly seated. Now to seed may be a bit too high But Sugar Ray. Leonard's one of the greatest boxers in the history of boxing and he grew up in Palmer Park Maryland was an Olympian and Olympic. Champion and really is a huge source of pride for this say he represents DC. There's no question about it. There are some people who go away and don't represent he's one of the guys who is DC. And I again. If you WANNA debate he ceded too high. That's fine he definitely is no worse in three or four seed. In this bracket Sammy Bauza to cede Max Sherzer was a two seat and Rigaud was the other one the three seeds. Ah Give you the top sixteen in. Then we'll go through the matchups the three seeds Were art monk Elgin Baylor and for those of you too young. Just understand this elgin. Baylor is the greatest high school basketball player and one of the greatest high school areas. Dc of all time you only have to ask the people who were there and watched him as a high school basketball player like John Thompson. Who is said to me? Many Times said said it many times on his own radio show when it comes to the greatest high school basketball players in the history of city of this city. It's Elgin Baylor One. And then you count five spots until you get to number two. It's that St- decisive. There is no doubt that Elgin Baylor is the greatest high school basketball point. If you WANNA argue is is school basketball player. He shouldn't be a three seat have at it. He should be up there though. Elvin Hayes is a three seat. I was very happy to see this and I was very actually pleased that he was at least seated ahead of wes unseld. Who's great and should be on the next line? Which will get in a moment But Elvin Hayes is one of the top three or four power forwards of all time and led the bullets to its only championship and went to NBA Finals in a six year period and the other three seat is Sonny Johnson. Now you can argue. That sunny should be a two seed. Maybe in front of Sugar Ray Leonard. You know maybe in front of Max Scherzer Max. Scherzer won a world series people. So we're Stephen Strasburg will get to that. In a moment sunny being seeded third was a little bit. I don't know questionable maybe the four seeds. Patrick Ewing okay. Certainly Patrick was going to be high up on this list. I don't think anybody's GonNa have a problem. Greatest player in Georgetown history and one of the Great College basketball players of all time Gary Williams is a four seed so as John Thompson so this committee was very very you know Diplomatic there now. You could say that. Thompson's impact on the college game was much more significant than Gary's but in terms of the production. They both won national championships at powerhouse programs in this area at the two powerhouse programs in this area the other four seat. Is Wes unseld? All right so that's your top sixteen seeds. You can go vote team nine eighty on twitter. The team nine eighty dot com and the first four matchups. You know the is an sixty through sixty eight this the last seeds into the field or vine to get into the main bracket and you're able to vote on those right now Here's the rest of the field. I'M GONNA run through it quickly. All right Gibbs IS GONNA play one of the plan You know Winners then Rod Langley. Great capital some will say the the second greatest cap in history is an eight seed. He goes against the nine seat. The ninth-seeded Ryan Zimmerman Zimmerman. You know certainly the face of the franchise now world champion Zimmerman and nine seat in the same region which by the way was the PG county region. Sorry Loudon County and Frederick County. You got left out of this and any other counties that I'm forgetting Len bias was a five seat. I think you could argue. That lend should have been Leonard. Should have been a higher than a five seed you know. I mean but Patrick Ewing won. A national championship led by student. He's going head to head with Chris Hamburger in a five twelve matchup. Alright the winner of that faces. Patrick Ewing against lefty dresell. Who's thirteen seed So that is you know lefty look left. He didn't get to a final four. He didn't win a national championship But left is one of the most impactful figures in the sport of basketball in the city's history college basketball meant nothing to everybody around here. It was all about high school basketball in the late sixties lefty arrived claimed that Maryland would become the UCLA east and turn Maryland into a powerhouse. They did not get to a final four. There were different rules back then. In terms of the number of teams it could make the tournament. He did get Maryland to two elite eights and had that team you know ranked very high throughout his career. He John Thomson's said it many times without lefty there would have been no John Thompson in no Georgetown. He made it possible for people to start taking college basketball seriously in that same region. Anthony Ren don't is a six seed against George Allen an eleven seed art monk a three seat against Peter Bondra a fourteen seed Russ Grimm Hall of Famer is a seven seed against randy white. I'm glad the Committee did not forget about the greatest player in Maryland. Football history. Randy White was not only a first team all American and outland trophy winner in the number one pick in the draft and future Super Bowl. Mvp Randy White was the best player in college. Football in nineteen seventy four. All right randy white again. Merrill Football Basketball School Randy White was the best player in college. Football in nineteen seventy four sugar. Ray Leonard. Too seed against Bobby Dandridge who made it in as the fifteen seat. I'm glad to see Bobby. D made it into the field. Dan Without Dandridge the bullets would not have won. The won title That they won so the one thing that jumps out to me about this region is the the nationals players Ryan Zimmerman at nine. Anthony Ran Donut. Six is really interesting. You'd have Zimmerman seated higher. I think I'd have them see a little higher at at worse I'd have them. You know a six and a seven something like that. I get it that if you want to say that the best season that anthony ran don't had was the was better than the best. See much better right. Here's the thing. He had two seasons where he could have. Been Ruben. Berman. In two thousand nine. Two thousand ten was excellent. If you WANNA go by war depending on what Site US Ryan Zimmerman. Two thousand nine season was actually better than any season. Anthony Don at largely because of how good he was in the field so at worse. I think it's close and I probably just because of the the longevity and what he meant to the city. I'd have Brian Sermon on top I'll get when when the brackets complete a remind me to go back to language for a second I hear what you're saying. I actually when I saw. It didn't really think about that. I just thought of Anthony Ron. John was a close to an MVP in a world series season and by the way came up with the biggest clutch hits as did want Soto. Yes and by the way Howie Kendrick. Who made the play in game? Now I'm going to be very interested in. I know what the outcome of this is. But I'm trying to build the suspense for you guys. I'm laying it out for the first time if one. Sotos in this field now. I don't I mean it's one season really or one and a half season so he might not be but Kendricks really just a postseason you know but had you know the the the homer that basically kept him alive against the dodgers. The Grand Slam An Extra X. All right so that's the first region which is dubbed the PG county region again. No relationship to the players that are in it. It's not like they played their their from there. It's just the name of the the the region. The next region is the Monaco region of the Montgomery County region. Walter Johnson's the one seed. He plays the plate one of the plane winners and I forget which play in winners get seated. Where but I'm going to assume that all of the number we're not gonNA have a sixteen over a one more likely than not Brayden Hopi than is an eight gets matched up against bryce harper a nine. Why bring up a Ymca bring up a remind me about Rod. Langley is Rod Langas a greater all-time capital than Brayden Hopi. He is Brayden. Hope he's not a hall of Famer Izzy. Now and Rod Lang. Way was correct. He is right. He's a hall of Famer. Yeah he's in the hall. Yeah so I I'm wondering if especially the die hard cap fans are going to say. Look I mean hold be was the goaltender on the Stanley Cup. Winning team rod language as one of the all time greatest at his position But anyway I continue with. That here was something that I found very interesting because when we set the it was like a week ago where. Cj was starting to put this together. And I wondered whether or not Bryce Harper would be in this field and if he were in this field where he'd be seated look at an MVP And he's a multi time postseason performer. Bryce Harper's the nine seed up against Brayden Holt. Being a first round match up with the right to take on more likely than not Walter Johnson in a second round contest harper is a nine I think that that sort of makes sense to me with Zimmerman being you know at at nine and Rondonia to six and a you have a problem with that Katie La- decades the five seed in this region. That's a fascinating one. Well I mean. She's one of the Great Olympic results. Or do you think he should be seated higher? I think that this is GonNa be one that she could go. The she could legitimately go the distance or should because she's a swimmer she could be out like the first two rounds so her first round opponent is the number twelve seed One of the greatest players in the history of baseball from the Negro Leagues. You Know Josh Gibson. Who played if he had played in major league? Baseball would have been One of the all time but he was a homestead grade. Dc All right And was you know one of the all time great baseball players from that era? He comes in as the twelve seed. They're up against Up Against Katie lucky. Then the four seed is Gary Williams. And he's up against the thirteen seed. John Wall John Wall like I was thinking about the bullets in the wizards. Okay the their history and here was my top five ones L. In by the way this is not no Baltimore here so no Earl Monroe. You know none of the other. Great Baltimore Bullets. This is all DC number one of all time for me. Is Elvin Hayes number two? Is Wes UNSELD number? Three is Bobby d right in all three of them. Marin but walls a higher seed than Dandridge I'm not gonNA make a big stink. Outta that number four. Is John Wall? Yeah John Wall in his career here in Washington. Is You know basically a top five. All Time bullet wizard and you know who number five was for me. Gilbert Arenas and there's GonNa be a lot of people to see what are you crazy with Phil. Chenier birds you know. But that's that was my top five. We'll see whether or not arenas in there but we've already had L. I mentioned Elvin Hayes is the three seed and wes unseld as a four seat. And you've already heard Bobby Dandridge in is a fifteen seat so walls. Now is a thirteen seed. We'll see if gill made the field Wall gets matched up against Gary Williams and a four thirteen matchup. Then the bottom of the Montgomery county bracket six each Sean Taylor and you know depending on the voter in this you know the age of the voter etcetera you know. I think by the way. He seated appropriately if he'd been seated lower. I wouldn't have had an issue with that. He he certainly in the field. Okay of sixty eight but you know it was a very short career In really was the last year of his career. Last two years of his career that were dominant. He was becoming great. He's matched up against number eleven John. Lucas who absolutely deserves to be in this list. I can tell you right now. John Lewis for me is the third greatest Maryland basketball player of all time behind number one len bias number two one Dixon. I'm assuming we're going to see one Dickson in this field Then you get the three seed. Montgomery County region. We've already mentioned elgin. Baylor against Alan Iverson. I'm sorry but Alan Iverson is a fourteen seat. He should be seated hire. I agree with that. He didn't win a championship. And Alan Iverson's one of the greatest players in the history of college basketball in this area by the way You know it's not that Virginia Beach and where he grew up is a big part of it. But Alan Iverson was a legend on on in the Summer League. Who's heading into Georgetown? Right at St Francis was I wonder if St Francis made this list The seven seeds Gary Clark Against Dominique Dawes Silver Spring based Dominique Dawes. Who was a gold medal? Gymnast you know in in the Olympics if this was you know the late nineties early two thousand she'd be seated away higher President how many how? Many gold medals she went. I mean look. She's a she was obviously a a major star in the Olympics in which she you know Atlanta Barcelona She won one gold Atlanta. She wanted she went one golden Atlanta. That was it she just wanted tools. You won bronze medals in ninety two and two thousand as well okay So Dominique Dawes comes it you but as you said she was a star Star And then the two seat. How about this is a juicy first round matchup committee got really had some fun with this two seater. John second-seeded John Regan's against the fifteen see Clinton portis the second. All time leading Redskins rusher makes the field. But as a fifteen seat. In one of the things you're gonNA notice about this. Is that some of the players in redskins recent history that didn't win anything or excluded. And you know what? I don't necessarily have a problem with that. Clinton portis should be in the field. I think it should be seated a little bit higher. It's almost like they knocked him down a couple of seeds so we could see. A Reagan's portis first round match up. Go ahead nitpick this particular region. I'm curious as to again. Part of it is because he went to Philadelphia if Anthony. Rendong is a six wise Bryce Harper. Now you can say the world series as part of it which is valid but Bryce Harper did get the MVP that jumps out to me. I think Alan Iverson is seeded to low me too. That's the one there I think Iverson. Ceo You low that that's the one thing that jumps out there to me. That Iverson you know could easily have been a top. You know eight seed somewhere and I think that and again just based on how this is doing. This is a voting. Is the public vote. I'm worried for Gary in the first round against John Wall. Yeah here's the other thing about Iverson so in order right. I'm not Georgetown Basketball Guy. But I Know College Basketball Patrick's number one. We've already seen him. Seated at number four Iverson. I think you can easily debate the second greatest player in Georgetown Basketball History. And he's a fourteen. So where's Matombo? We're sleepy floyd? Are they going to be on this list? I mean five or seeded fourteenth. Maybe not by the way. Would you be surprised to five or seven? Beats Baylor in the first round no in fact I would guess that he'd beat Elgin Baylor and I run because most you're going to have to knee you're going to need a very older person right. Understand young people are not gonNA look. I'M NOT SAYING THAT ELGIN. Baylor doesn't deserve to be seated there. He's the greatest high school basketball player role time in this area and by the way went on to have a dominant hall of fame. Nba Career But yeah wouldn't it wouldn't surprise me if that's a fourteen three upset picked. Taylor Iverson in the second round. Sean Taylor Against Allen Iverson in a second round matchup juicy but not juicier than Rigaud against Portis in the first rebel All right now we go to the other side of the bracket in the Fairfax County region. Ovechkin zero one seat. He plays the plane winner. Then it's Bobby Mitchell as an eight seed. Of course. He was going to be in this field against Morgan wootten. Who is a nine seed now? The late Morgan wootten Morgan wootten the most successful high school basketball coach in history nationally. Not In this area nationally Morgan wootten I have no problem with him. Being seated there. Stephen Strasburg is the five seed. We've already mentioned that. Shire's a two seed. Is there that much of a difference between? Strasbourg and Scher. I think yes. There is just stress works the best clutch performer in the in. This team's history now. But you're talking about Scherzer's CY youngs. You're talking about him. Being the most dominant pitcher of this decade really. I think that right now I think right now. Make sure there's a surefire hall of fame. He would go in as a national and Strauss. Getting very close to being surefire. If his career ended now he would not be a whole famer Doug Williams is the twelve seed now before you start complaining that Doug isn't seated high enough remember. Doug didn't have a lot of productive years here. Doug story is really more than anything you know. A Nineteen January of Nineteen eighty-eight playoff story with one of the Great Super Bowl performances of all time I think we all understand that but his years in Washington eighty six eighty seven eighty eight eighty nine. You know first of all just so everybody understands us about Doug Williams you know. He only started fourteen games in four redskin seasons okay. That's it came off the bench and a lot of games. I understand that he only started. Fourteen Games. His overall record in Washington on regular season Wise It looks like his overall record. The redskins had good. Teams was a losing overall record. Doug Williams started fourteen games in Washington and was five and nine as a starter now in the postseason Doug Williams with three. You know all right beat Chicago on. The road beat Minnesota in the championship game and beat Denver in the Super Bowl But I don't have a problem with Doug of I think Doug deserves to be in the field. Don't get me wrong but I don't have a problem with Doug being super high seated The career doesn't match come anywhere near the game The four seed in the Fairfax County regions. Wes unseld against Dave Martinez. So Dave Martinez has nearly fired last. May and he wins the world series and he comes in as a thirteen seat The bottom half of that bracket secede is Charlie Taylor. Look you could argue that. He should be seated higher. You Know Charlie Taylor in art monk or the two best receivers in Redskins history with probably Gary Clark third Right Bobby Mitchell. Third Charlie Taylor is was a first ballot hall of Famer and when he left the game was the all time leading. Nfl Wide Receiver so as art monk. A man I don't have the problem with art monk being slightly higher seeded but he's three seeds below muck Charlie. Taylor's is six against Brian Mitchell. And eleven seat. He Mich should be in the field. He's no doubt in the field he's going to be a fascinating lot. Yeah because of obviously and yeah still got presence he sure presence Sunny Johnson three seed. People probably think that sunny should have been at least a two seat. He goes head to head with Berry Trots the fourteenth seed the Stanley Cup champion coach. Dexter Manley a seven seat against the tenth seeded. Mike Gartner Comes in An all time cap great sammy balls. The two seed. And here we go Phil. Chenier comes in as a fifteen seed going to be very surprised. Gilbert Arenas isn't the fifteen we already know what the sixteens are 'cause Shimmy unless guilt. Well I guess you'll could still be higher seeded than fill in the next bracket so that bracket I would just say the thing that sticks out to me is. I think that Stephen Strasburg could have been saved a little bit higher and may be Charlie Taylor the same thing other than that. Yeah it's hard for me to. I'm not going to sit here and really debate. Mike Gartner that much Berry trots was very trots and Dave Martinez were championship coaches. In the same way Doug Williams was a championship quarterback you know Buried trots got him to the playoffs and having contention. I would've I probably would have put Dave Martinez and Berry trots on the same see. I would've made them both thirteenth but it is interesting because they both kind of thing. Where if they hadn't won the world series that are you know Stanley Cup? They might have been fired and obviously trust ended up leaving but obviously he was on his way out as well. Here's the final region Whitby Bianca. Go Heck I'm calling it now The the elite eight the the regional final there Alex veteran for speech Wouldn't surprise me if it's Alex. Ovechkin Dexter Manley. That's possible that ball man and it depends on sunny because you know Sonny's Sonny's going to win that match up with Berry Trots. Yes and then He. Then you're you're asking be Mitch to knock off sunny in the second round. I think he does. Okay last Region the Arlington County region. Okay Mizra going through this. It's a field of sixty eight. It's the all time DC. Sports STARS ALL RIGHT. It is coaches players and general managers. It is just DC And you're of here. It doesn't mean you had to be born here doesn't mean that you had to play your whole career here your of here. You're either you came here and you had a great career or you're from here and yeah had some of your career here but maybe because of the sport you went on to fame In the Olympics or in an individual sport which took you all over the world like sugar. Ray Leonard's as an example Who is to seed in the PG county region the four regions or Pg County Montgomery County Fairfax County? Now this last region which will lay out Arlington County region. They advanced to the final. Four DC region were the semi-final Games are played at RFK semifinal match ups and capital one arena in a nod to Poland for what he did to DC In in changing our city in so many ways the final will be a capital one. Arena all right here. We go final region. Darrell Green's the one. He'll play one of the plane One of the first four winners Joe. Thighs. Men is in eight seed against Juan Dixon. The nine seat Dixon deserves to be here. He shouldn't be as highly seated his bias. Who's a five seed And I don't have a problem really. I think it could have been a little bit higher. He's a champion. He's one of the one. The National Player of the year His senior year Thighs men against Dixon. Then you get frank. Howard is the five seed really other than Walter Johnson. And until this year Frank Howard the all-time senator you know he was Mr Senator went. When they were here in the sixties and the early seventies before they moved to Texas he goes head to head with Bobby Beth. `Red WHO's a twelve seed? Bobby Beth heard is under seated. We had casserly as a sixteen seed. Bettered `red should be seated higher and then John Thompson junior big John four-seat against mark rippin. Who really had a better career than Doug Williams here? Statistically more years more game started at Cetera a more playoff games played in a mark rippin also a super bowl. Mvp But he is seated below. Doug Williams who obviously had You know in the same way that John Thompson in Josh Gibson and Bobby Mitchell you know had significant Impact Being the first African American quarterback to start and win the Super Bowl start in the super bowl and then he wanted to rip into the thirteen. C bottom. Half of that bracket Niklas backstrom is succeed. So basically that means based on. I think my math here. That backstrom is considered the second best capital of all time behind. Ovechkin ahead of Lang Way He faces Mike. Rizzo the eleven seed all right. The architect of the first world series winner Since nineteen twenty four in this town Elvin Hayes is the third seed. You'RE NOT GONNA get an argument for me. I don't think many of you understand. How great historically Elvin Hayes is careers viewed as? He is an all time top three top four power forward in the history of the NBA can Houston as the fourteenth seed. They're I think Ken Houston. Who's considered one of the greatest safeties of all time now? He had a lot of his career. Houston and a little bit more than half of it here. I think he could have been seated. Higher Joe Jacobi is the seven seed against Elaine Adela. Don Who's the ten seed all right? Max Scherzer the two seed and I was wondering where we would see Brenda freeze. She comes in as the fifteen seed so there are people missing. Go ahead and give me your feelings on the last region and then we can get into. Who's missing and perhaps a little bit more about some of the seedings Nothing too crazy disappointing as a Maryland. Fantasy Dixon run up against Eisman in the first round. He's not getting out of the first round there. I do think you can make a good case that Brenda free should be higher but again understanding. It is women's basketball. Like I I understand that Elena Delle Donne. Maybe a little bit high. But she's a worthy inclusion For sure but other overall I think this was a pretty. Sr as the seedings go. As far as WHO's look pretty good for this region? I think actually overall this is a hard thing to do and I know I know when. Cj and the few that helped him sat down to try to figure this out that at first he was like. I don't think we're GONNA be able to come up with sixty eight and I'm like no you're going to be able to come up with sixty eight There are there's one glaring omission and it's a big mistake and I mentioned this on Radio Ritchie. Pettibone should have been in the field to sixty eight Richard pettibone one of the all-time great defensive coordinators was the architect of the redskins defense. I three Super Bowl wins. There are a lot of people that played for the Gibbs teams in the pettibone teams. It will tell you. Ritchie was just as responsible for the three lombardi trophies. The redskins have that is a massive massive with not having Ritchie pettibone in the field of sixty eight. In fact I would've had him not only in the field of sixty eight. I would've had him probably as a top ten seed in region. Okay then you get to what? What about Joe Bugle? I don't feel the same way about bugle that I do about pettibone. Pettibone had one responsibility. The defensing gibbs gave him autonomy total autonomy over running. That Defense Joe. Bugle could have been considered for the field. I'm not knocking that. I also think the Gilbert Arenas should have been in this field. It's I'd say it's almost a joke. That he's not the biggest. I think you can make the case. Who's the biggest sports star in this city for for a couple of years for that decade for the two thousand decade? I think that's the case. Woo for the two thousand for the arts was yet Gilbert. Arenas the biggest sports star in this down while you didn't have somebody from the nationals. Okay 'cause you only baseball for five years A veterinarian was started. Eight yeah right. Yeah For the redskins go. You know you had the last vestiges of Darrell Green's career which wouldn't count because those are the last few years it. Sean Taylor Sean Taylor may have been the biggest star of that of that because it was. The the Redskins were still so much more popular than than the wizards. But Yeah I think Gilbert Arenas is a massive omission. I also think that Dick Motta should be in this field. He was the coach of the only NBA championship team. The city's ever hat the nineteen seventy eight Washington bullets and not only that. They went back to the championship in nearly defended it. In nineteen seventy nine. Not only that when Dick. Motta was here not to look at his record. Okay I mean he was one of the best coaches in the NBA For All of his ears here. I mean they were always a contender. You know four. The Championship thought to be a championship. Contender he came here. In the seventy six seventy seven season. They went forty eight and thirty four and they lost in the conference semifinals. Okay seventy seven seventy eight. They won the title. Seventy eight seventy nine. They lost in the finals. One Eastern Conference Championship lost in the finals and then in its final year here as they were an aging team and were an injured team. That was his only losing season. So I didn't really. I actually thought he was here for more years. He replaced Casey Jones as the coach. Dick Motta was here for four short years. That would be the argument against but in those four short years they were an NBA champion and NBA. Championship runner-up on an NBA. Contender got to the conference. Semifinals and a non playoff team. I personally think Dick. Motta should have been considered for this. What's what is You know I think interesting based on its absence and maybe I'm forgetting somebody here but in looking through the list the redskins on this list are basically all championship or just pre-championship good teams under George Allen Redskins. Sean Taylor is the one exception in Sean. Taylor and Clinton portis are the exceptions. I don't think I'm missing is I'm going through the field. So that means that a lot of guys that you know some younger people in particular. Whether it's London Fletcher Chris. Cooley Santana Moss. Chris Samuels. They're gonNA wonder why those guys didn't make the list I don't have. I don't really have a problem at of all. Those guys Clinton Portis is probably the one that deserves to make it. Lets you think it's London Fletcher Arena should be on here to me. It's Richard Pettibone an arena for the two big misses. I think Dick MoD is a big miss to Bob Malloy. If you're going to have Morgan wootten on this listen. Morgan deserves to be on the list. Before Bob Malloy Bob Malloy is the second winningest high school football coach in history and he coached every single year in this area. You know good counsel Sherwood Spring Brook. Whitman Okay Bob. Molloy's one of the greatest high school football coaches of all time. And here's a question. I don't know if it's been answered yet by the committee. Chairman Chris Johnson but David Robinson if he's considered if Navy's considered DC. David Robinson should have been on this list. I think it's outside. Dc Okay If it's not David Robinson should have been on the list clearly for Sir Lot of you you know some of you might say. Maury wills he's from DC all-time Great Baseball player. Danny ferry you know. I had a lot of pe- people tweet me about Danny Ferry and the one name I haven't mentioned. But he only holds seven franchise passing records would be one kirk. Cousins didn't make the field of sixty eight and I don't have a problem with that That's tongue placed firmly in cheek on that. He does not rise to the level of these other players Even though he does hold most of the franchise passing records. But you can chalk that up to era et Cetera et CETERA Overall I think I actually think it's a pretty cool thing and it'll be interesting. You can vote on these things right. Now you can vote. On the first four matchups Kendrick against only Colesberg Christie tolliver against Kevin Durant hymie Marino against alley. Krieger and boomers size. And I'm glad on this list. Boomer was a really good college quarterback really good college quarterback against Charley casserly in the other sixteen versus sixteen games. And you just go to the team nineties twitter account and you'll be able to vote on that you'll be able to see the whole bracket at the team ninety dot com or on twitter. There's a link to the entire bracket as well. I actually think this is going to provide a nice little diversion for the next couple of weeks. You know so we'll We'll update you on the results as we go through this and go ahead and vote as well Anything else on this now unless you WanNa get predict your final four. Oh we didn't do that did we? predicting my final four Gibbs. I think is a lock to make the final four. I can't see anybody in his region. Because here's the thing about gibbs no matter how old you are no matter who your favorite teams are you recognize. He is on the Mount. Rushmore of DC. Sports FIGURES WITHOUT QUESTION. Gibbs makes it to the final four in that other Region the Montgomery County region. Were Walter. Johnson's a one in Rigaud is a two and Elgin Baylor's a three and Gary Williams a Foreign Katie Latakia five bryce Harper's in their in their Alan Iverson's in there. I'M GONNA say riggins makes to the final four. The Taylor factor. I think is going to be interesting in that. One might be a little God. What a sweet sixteen matchup that would be Sean Taylor and Rigaud So who you picking you got gibbs right out of that one Absolutely I'm trying to do it. No one can really compare to him in that one In this one boy. I think I'm GonNa say Taylor is GonNa make it out of there all right. I'll say Rigaud by the way it's all based on voting rights and that's what I'm Then we go over to the other side of the bracket were ovechkin. Is the one Baas to Juergens the three unsettles the four Strasberg's the five I think Alex Ovechkin Lovie. Yeah I think Alex Ovechkin will be in the final four. And then that bottom Arlington County region Regional Darryl Green was GONNA play the thighs. Mun Dixon winner in the Second Round John Thompson against ripping and then potentially a bobby bettered matchup. You've got Elvin Hayes can use some old timers in this with Max Scherzer at the bottom who I actually see a Max Scherzer Darryl Green regional final a one versus a to Is it possible that is mantra trips up green though no okay? I? I don't think so I was kind of going through thing where green could possibly get tripped up here and that's the one that possibly jumps out to me but yeah I th. I think it's one of the two probably green just because of the redskins popularity over the nationals. I think it's GonNa be Darryl Green as well. So that would be green against Ovechkin Gibbs against Rigaud for me gibbs against Sean Taylor for you and I'll go a gibbs ovechkin final. Yeah I'm with you there and you know what? Look Walter Johnson. Sammy ball or from a time where we can't really relate look if it was up to me like it was just my votes. I would be voting Walter Johnson through. I think like I. I think I've said it on this podcast before I think the two best athletes in DC sports history or Walter Johnson Allah and Alex Ovechkin. But yeah it gives us the greatest coach. Yes in this. Town's history beating Gibbs and I have gibbs beating lovie but that'd be a hell of a final All right what else do we have for today? Anything that's happened so Yeah I didn't get to Quinton Dunbar. I meant to get to quit number so pro football talk Broke the story. Mike Florio for whatever it's worth a Florio that Quinton Dunbar is on the trade market. The redskins have made him available for trade so here a couple of thoughts number one Ron Rivera. Basically wants to see people who aren't going to be a part of the culture change Gone now personally. I don't think he should give these people away. But it's very clear that Ron Rivera Has made it clear to everybody. I'm involved not only in a coaching change in a system change. And you know figuring out what my roster looks like change. I'm in the midst of a Culture. Turn around and it's a big job a huge job. You know to turn this culture around and the bottom line is I think. Quinton Dunbar is a good player. I think he's a number one corner a few teams. Not Most. I think he's basically a number two corner. That's what Cooley thanks to He mentioned that on our podcast. A while back he likes. Quinton Dunbar But you know Quinton. Dunbar is not a number one corner and most teams. He probably thinks he is. I Love Quinton Dunbar. Game though you know he's big he's long. He anticipates well he closes. Well I really really like Clinton Dunbar's a player. I'm very disappointed in the way he's handled this because he's due to make three point two five million dollars in the last year of his deal which is under paid. I WOULD. I would totally agree with that. The way for this to be handled should have been him in his agent going to the redskins privately and saying look. You got a lot to to get done here. You Know Ron. You know Kyle Smith everybody Ron Rivera in particular. You got a lot Rob Rogers. You get a lot to accomplish here. You got a lot of priorities here. I'm sure I'm not at the top of the priority list. I understand that. But when when it's time we would like to talk to you about a contract extension because we want to be here And three point. Two five million is you know. Based on the way He's played here recently is probably low so we'd like to potentially commit for a longer period of time so we don't get two free agency next year which benefits you redskins and we'd like to make more here in twenty twenty I think if they had approached it that way and who knows maybe they did But I don't think they did. I think what we've seen is we've seen Quinton. Dunbar very image surely take to twitter and take social media to say initially I WANNA be traded or released and then he said he called up doc and said No. I don't really want that. And then he said not WanNa be traded or released and when the news came out from Pro Football. Talk over the weekend. I'm Quinton Dunbar responded with Thankful for New Beginnings. This was minutes after the a report from Mike. Florio that Quinton Dunbar was being. A mate was being made available of for Was being made available via trade deal. I can see why Ron Rivera doesn't want to deal with this. This was not the way for Quinton Dunbar to handle this you know. He's probably not what he thinks. He is in terms of his value at the same time. He is a good player. Who could have been a part of something new with by the way a much better? Coaching Staff So personally I think that this was the wrong way for Dunbar to handle it. I wish that he'd handled it differently because I would have preferred for him to be on this team. Next year. They have a need at the position But if Ron Rivera wants to trade him because he doesn't WanNa be here. I don't have any problem with that. It's a culture move at this point now. You can't give them away. What's he worth He's worth a third you know. I think he's worth somewhere around a third. I would not give away Quinton Dunbar for a fourth starting corner in this league but it's interesting to see the last two big corner trades. Were last year. You know the dairy slave trade was the most recent here in the NFL Over the weekend or might might have happened on Friday. I forget the day that it happened. but Daria Sleigh was traded last week to Philadelphia from Detroit for a third rounder and a fifth rounder reitzle's. A good corner is a good corner. He's starting corner. You could potentially say he's a number one corner you know who pro football focus is number two corner last last year was Quinton Dunbar. All right by the way. Richard Sherman was one now. I'm not a big believer in all that stuff but Dairy sleigh I think is a better corner than Quinton Dunbar. He brought back a third in the fifth I I would I would settle for third. I wouldn't give them away. A third rounder for Quinton. Dunbar would be something that I take and then move on from all right but still you got it. Now you've got another hold Phil because right now you get Fabien Moreau. You've got Kendall Fuller You've got strom in you've got Jimmy Moorland you know. I'm just off the top of my head thinking about the corners Aaron Colin's a free agent So you know you've got a need here. Catches be given people away see. There's also a big difference between giving Between precedent setting with Trent Williams versus precedent setting with Quinton Dunbar. Let me explain. I argue last year. That trading Trent Williams upon his demand to be traded would not be a precedent that you would be setting that. There were very few players on the roster. If any that were Trent Williams at Bryan Carrigan had come to the team. Because Trent Williams got what he asked for and said trade me the REDSKINS DEEDS. Trent Williams is different. Sorry Ryan same thing with Quinton Dunbar. You're not Trent Williams. You're not trump williams. You're we're not GonNa let you set a precedent with Trent Williams. It can be explained away. That's Trent Williams. Okay we could get a lot back for him in return if they had actually acted at the appropriate time to trade him but they didn't. We know we know that. Of course we know the mistake they made by not trading when they traded him Quinton. Dunbar gotta be careful you know Quinton Dunbar demanding on social media to be traded or released and then all the sudden you trade. You know you do have to be a little bit careful. Do not give him away. If there's not a good market for Quinton Dunbar. You tell him look you should approaches differently. We probably would have extended you. You want to hold out go ahead. See What see how free agency treats you next year after you hold out for a whole year. How about you come in and you play your guts out as coach Joe would say you play really well and can become a free agent next year or potentially we can sit down like you know mature people here not via social media and workout in extension time may pass on that one with Rivera but to me you gotta be careful because now you get into. You know who's going to have a year left on his deal after this year Jon Allen. Theron PAIN COMING UP MATT. Itis sign that deal you got you got players that you're GONNA have to be concerned about that are gonNA look at a guy like Quinton Dunbar. And say he asked out. He's not even as good as I am. If you're Jon Allen. And he got his way. Trent Williams was a different category No problem with them trading him. I don't want him to give him away. I wish that Quinton Dunbar had handled this in his agent had handled it more mature early and that they would have worked out a deal. B.'S THE REDSKINS would have. I think it would have been in the redskins best interest to work out a longer term deal with Quinton Dunbar. He's good enough to start for you at corner. You know regardless of the number of games. He's missing. He's missed a lot of games. He blamed that he blames that on. Larry Hess by the way in the training staff. Anyway there. It is on Quinton Dunbar. All right Have a great day back tomorrow with Tommy.

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REShow: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Hour 2 (06-02-20)

The Rich Eisen Show

57:30 min | 2 months ago

REShow: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Hour 2 (06-02-20)

"Thank you for listening to this podcast. One production now available on Apple podcasts podcast one spotify and anywhere else you get your podcast. This is the rich Eisen show David Aldridge of the athletic year on the rich Eisen show nationwide televised online at richeisenshow dot com. It's very difficult now for me to be all about you know important and ready to get back and open everything but very difficult, you know. Everything that's going on in our country. Show studio in Los Angeles today's gasps basketball. Hall of Famer Kareem abdul-jabbar plus pro football hall of Famer Ed Free and now. Rich is. We say hello to our friends at NBC. And I say hello to my friends across the aisle and Chris. Brockman and Mike, Delta. been on the air for an hour, YouTube dot com slash richeisenshow Sirius Xm channel to is the ways you can stream us and watches for all three hours. I came on the air. Offered again to chat throughout this. This program at eight, four, four, zero, four, rich, being the number to dial. And we were not on the air yesterday and we. We send our Thank you to our friends at NBC on and our friends at NBC. they're awesome and totally Wonderful partners nor the way to put it when. We were talking about what was going on over the weekend. The whole country seeing what's going on outside the world. And we decided with what was going on in the city of Los, Angeles with. Civil unrest. On the streets in certainly in parts of the city. That rarely sees it. We decided to just stay at home yesterday. And keep keep everyone home and see how Everything was going on in the streets before coming back and we're here. And NBC was just totally. Understanding and saying we'll take the day off. We'll see a Tuesday if you can and we're here. And I'll just summarize again for our this audience. What I said at the very top. Of the program is that it's it's very rare for me. Very very rare for me to. Wonder! What to say and what you as a fan. Out there, taking us in WanNa hear about today. You want a total escape from the world. We. We're here to provide that. That's why we're here me shoot, we did we did the last. Two months of a show pandemic. And, then a burgeoning depression. In terms of. Civil unrest or what feels like? Something even worse. A war. On our streets. Were wondering. Do you WANNA tap out of that? Or, what's going on on the streets way, too? Significant. To, NOT A. Big. Ignore. So. We're GONNA talk about it today. There are some other matters to discuss in the world of sports. Major League baseball is making some news. There's always something going on in the NFL. Will struggle down a little bit memory lane for that because on NBC tonight at Eight, Eastern time is the rear of the first Super Bowl. We ever covered on this show, which was the one in Arizona? Patriots and Seahawks. Ed Reed will join us on the program top of our final hour here. My wife's known Ed for a while before I met him working with NFL network. We called them over the weekend. See how he's doing. Just check in with them. Tell them we love him. Because he is one of the I I, love this guy. It's a matter of fact. He said when he called back. He called me a brother from another mother I said I would tell my mother that. And did you know okay? And she's out there watching so I'm. I tell you referred to me. I'll tell my mom that. We wanted just tell him I. Love Him and. He's just like how about our calling. We chop it up. He will call him. We will chop it up. He's the best salon it going on. The job and then Kareem abdul-jabbar is calling in about ten minutes time. Here's a man who is on the forefront of. Racial strife in civil unrest in the late sixties. With Bill Russell and Muhammad Ali and Jim Brown. At his side, those are some famous photographs. That one right there. Look at him and Bill Russell Tower over Mohammed Ali. Muhammad Ali was like six to reds. Guy. Korean will join us and by the way molly up there speaking of people. Associated with the city, of Louisville. And, Born and Bred Louisville. Kentucky University of Louisville's finest wes unseld passing away today. At the age of seventy four, so I'm sure we'll have something to say about. Wes. Who you know interestingly enough just to. Bring everything kind of together. West's was the first. Black man first African American athlete to be offered an athletic scholarship by off ramp. To the University of Kentucky. rupp I guess was told to pound sand and he went to Louisville. And the NCWA all American then went. To Be Baltimore Bullets in the sixty eight draft US also selected by the Kentucky colonels of the Aba. And, then less unsettled won a championship in the city of Washington DC. Beloved. He and his wife opened. On cells school in one, thousand, nine, seventy, nine, a coed private school located in South West Baltimore Daycare nursery schools kindergarten eighth grade. So. Maybe Lebron was taking a page from Wes unseld book when he was creating his. Charter school in his hometown. West did it however in Baltimore and we'll talk about all this with Kareem abdul-jabbar. You know and I will I will send you to our youtube page for the full way that I opened the show. Was I it it it? It felt a long time. Probably about? Twenty minutes long. Or about eleven minutes longer than a knee was on the neck of George Floyd. When he was murdered on the streets of Minneapolis about a week ago. That we can all be incensed about that as well as incensed about the rioting and looting on the street as well as incensed about. What appears to be the state of policing in this country. While also. LIONISING THE GOOD COPS! Those. Who Do? Protect and serve in the manner in which they've been sworn to do so. In the cities in which they've been sworn to do so. My twitter feed. Also showing. Wonderful moments of policing in Camden New Jersey in Flint Michigan. We can also be outraged by the looting in this country outraged by it. While also. Supporting. The importance and crucial nature of peaceable assembly. And that the constitution does still stand for something, and it's still a written document. That shouldn't be tortured. Twisted. For the benefits of. Political gain. And the crucial. Crucial necessity. To Abhor violence and call it out when you see it. We can believe that there is a spot. In that. In this crazy world of ours. Where we can believe all of that. And come together in some way shape or form in some form of unity. And teach everyone. Who is young and impressionable. That, we are one human race. We do not see color. We should not see color if you're thinking about it. We all bleed and love and want and need and desire. We all deserve the same rights. Under our Constitution that appears to be under attack on a daily basis. I'm scared Megan Alive. I'm concerned I'm frightened. I want to feel. UNIFIED? United States of America I want to feel that. The Way I'm asking people to feel and love as I did from this chair when my dad passed away and December I, never thought I would re tweet my. Thoughts on the subject matter from December because it's still raw for me. My Dad passing away in December. But I felt what I said then deserve to be repeated now. Which is what my dad would want is people to love and connect. And unify. And what he stood for which was. Empathy and sympathy and understanding. And respect for women and respect for all races our. Ideals. And necessities that show strength. Not Weakness. To ask somebody. How can I help? What can I do? How are you feeling as opposed to just going to run you over? As. Opposed to I'm just going to hate and divide because it makes me feel better because I don't understand why. People are being so upset and angry. Ask. For thoughts and help. And to deliver empathy and respect, those are strengths, not weaknesses. And I hope we can. Come together. Normally sports will do that. People root for the same touchdown, not knowing that there are on completely opposite ends of a political spectrum. People root for the same field goal. Three point shot even though they might. Not Share the same love in their heart for each other. So hopefully a show like this one can show the way. Kareem abdul-jabbar up. Take a break we will talk to the man who wrote a remarkable op Ed on this subject. and has a lot to say. Basketball Hall of fame cream Abdul Jabbar pro football hall of Famer right breed and you. By the way, my back's killing me, too. So. What exactly? Is pleased. On I was like wait what? So yesterday when we were off. And it appeared that. Everything in our. City was somewhat calmer than the day before previous day right, yeah! And then we heard that a curfew was going to be put in place for for the city of La that were businesses. We're GONNA shut down at one. And then, everything off the streets by four. And you know. I'm here every day. We know what I'm here every day. I decided. You're all pitch in. I'll do. I'll do whatever needs to be done to pitch in at home. So, let me go shopping. Oh! Let me glove up. Let me mask up. Let me go shopping. And how tall mcadoo moment in! The the dairy section Oh now. Reach for reach for a wants to send a one percent. Reach to one percent. which was right around right around thigh-level, okay and. What like that? Just snap out this. What does it reached the check? Thank you. I was doing. Well. My Gosh. Yeah almost clean up on aisle twelve man. Almost went right down on the ground. Works brought back problems. You've had bad. Oh! Say Loud I'm just to start knocking. Sarah does have stairs got the bad back well. She's. Get it. You see the size at no, not you the size you. She had oh before cage. I'm just saying carrying I. Thought You make a joke about caring carrying you and your relationship I could make that, but also. Cage is A. He's like twenty pounds. He's huge cages. A monster babies huge. The ultimate of and respect take. Child her big fat baby. He's very big, be yeah, he's the B.. So yeah man. Do we want I have a poll question idea if you want. Can you notice the difference between one and two percent milk? Bear God no. Stay away from that. Do you notice a percent I think he can. I have taken the soda taste test. If you're done that, oh yeah I did that. We remember those famous commercials, Coke and Pepsi. There's a difference for percent between the difference between Diet Coke and regular coke. I could tell right so. They come back. It's Kareem, abdul-jabbar time here on the rich Eisen. Show Do? You Own or rent your home. Sure you do and I bet it can be hard work. You know what's easy. Bundling policies with GEICO GEICO makes it easy to bundle your home. Owners renters insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing, too, because you already have so much to do around your home, go to Geico, DOT COM, get a quote and see how much you could save. It's GYCO. Easy visit GEICO DOT com today. That's GEIKO DOT COM G. I.. C. O. DOT COM. Kareem. abdul-jabbar will be joining us in a few minutes. Time is just received a text that he may be a few minutes late, so in the meantime we're here live on the rich Eisen show on NBC. YOUTUBE DOT COM. Slash richeisenshow. Sirius Xm. Let's go to some phone lines right here and take some people's phone calls. Eight, four, four, two, zero, four. Rich is the number to dial Let's go to Sharon in Louisiana. You're here on the rich. Eisen show. What's up sharing? Yes sir I want to address the nation if I may. I WANNA. Ask this question to the white. Race and other races as well. What has black people done y'all so bad that y'all can't stand to look at us that y'all can't stay into to to see us, but yet y'all trust. US enough to come into your home to clean your home. y'All entrust us with your children. We clean your children. We teach them love as we would treat our own, and yet Yano Trust it. And some you all y'all teach your children that we are wicked were evil. We all we WANNA. Do this rob and kill, and that is not dead. It's not at all so I'm just asking a question. Can we all just worked together and comes together and help each other? Our tears are looking at this in Yala raising up another generation to be just like the people that keeping them to do evil, one more thing I would like the dress, and it's about our American flag, and it's nothing negative about. the problem that I have with. The problem with the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America I quote ended up visible with liberty and justice for all. Indivisible meaning unable to divide or separate. Liberty the state of being free within society from oppressive restriction and etc justice, the quality of being righteous impartiality fairness, example of the justice is someone being set free from prison after DNA evidence foods. They are innocent. So the nation in the world is looking at US two. We leave come together, let the protesters marched peacefully without having to draw a line in the sand and say don't cost it because that is why these people are being angry, because your not allow a not allowing them to protest peacefully, and that's where you see. These people are tearing down and they don't have a right to do it, but they're voice voicing their plush gracious. Is those people to protest. Please Sharon I hope that. That this phone call has been in any way shape or form helpful to you and just I appreciate your thoughts, and your your passion, and obviously you're obviously Needing to. Get that off your chest and I'm glad that the show allowed it. Thank you. Have a great day to sure right there. WHERE WE'RE! We're teaching our kids at home. And hopefully everybody is doing the same. He's one of our favorites here. One of the all time greats in the history of sports, and not only that forms of giving his thoughts, giving his heart and giving. To. The community writ large when it needs a voice. He is Kareem abdul-jabbar. How are you sir? I'm doing okay, are you I'm doing better for talking to you and I appreciate your time. I want to give you the floor. What is in your heart and mind this morning? Kareem abdul-jabbar? It's Kinda like I'm caught between hope and history you know. I hope that OUR NATION IS GONNA make the changes needs to make to realize. You know its place and what it means, and how important it is that we. UPHOLD? What the founding fathers actually talked about you know. What Mister Jefferson road in in a declaration that all men are created equal? We gotta make that a reality. And I think The events of the past. Week or so have really shown. To all of America. How much that is, not a fact. And that we have to fix that. We have to fix it. What are your thoughts? Your emotions when you're now in two thousand twenty, talking about what appears to be the very same issue you talking about in the late sixty s Kareem famous you I. I remember the very first time I became aware of it I was seventeen years old. And a young man named James, Powell was killed by police named Thomas. Get Look at in. Harlem? Erupted into a riot. You know and I I could've got shot and I. You know just. Being out on the street was was dangerous in you know. It hasn't changed any. It's the same exact you. The same exact issue. Colin Kaepernick. Tried very hard to demonstrate peacefully about this very issue. And what happened to him. He was ostracized. He lost his job. He was blackballed. And this is this is the issue. He was trying to talk about and it. Seems that the powers that be did not like him bringing it up. So would you counsel today? What will you? What what? I guess in a way? That's bringing it to what you you wrote about in your op Ed and I'd like to give you the floor on that subject Kareem abdul-jabbar. P people have to listen. You know. The. The criminal justice system is tainted with racism from top to bottom. Discriminates. And it makes people suffer, and that that has to end. It has to end. We have to find a way how to make criminal cops accountable you know. The good cops. The overwhelming majority of cops are good. Cops in day suffered too when. Bad cops do what they do, so you know we need to find something. To hold a bad cops accountable and keep them from destroying everything that they destroy families our trust in the law. they they the. They squandered the good deeds, all good cops. So you know something needs to be done about that. Well, also the headline. Make a friend with someone who doesn't look like you. What do you mean? That's a great idea and. Understanding humanity and Understand that Despite the the difference in looks. They might like chess or collecting stamps or whatever it is. That you like so you know, find out. What we have in common in our great nation. It's so place to do that. So. What does it mean that? That that would be. In twenty twenty fresh advice right I mean I, it's it's kind of. A simple thing to just suggest but. How how how do we come together in that regard Korean? WE! We come together every day I mean. In our nation, in especially in the cities of are they shouldn't. People have. Incredibly. Very backgrounds come together and work together in and continue to make this the greatest nation in the world. That's that's what America's about. And we keep that happening. We we can't let. You know. We we? We can't let bias in discrimination. Just, Make a mess of it. You know we can't do that. What to find a way to cope. What do you think Muhammad Ali would think at this moment Kareem? Well My. Spoke out. Numerous Times about police violence It wasn't a new issue for him You can go back and check his his statement. You'll see that. He actually spoke out on these issues. Kareem abdul-jabbar here on the rich Eisen show What would you suggest? politicians do people in power people who could make change. What? We just usually power I mean they. They need to talk to the people. They need to talk to each other and figure out a way legislation legislatively. To laws in effect that will enable people. To eliminate bad cops. That's it just bad cops. Be, amazed how how much healing that that that would promote if that was a possibility that they could? For the things that they do. Is there any specific part of the constitution you'd call? People to take a look at Karim I know you're you're somebody who knows that document very well. Is there a particular spot that you would say? Hey, person in charge XYZ. Go, check this out. Well. The whole idea of promoting voting and making the vote available. Making it possible to vote I think is. Part of what our democracy is invalid and. Too many especially in red states. They're trying to cut it back. Claiming that there's voter fraud. Don't vote fraud. Voter fraud is is is not a problem in our country. Unless the Russians are are are meddling in our elections. So you know we we've got to. have to make the the idea of one man one vote and everybody equal under the law. We have to make those two things a reality. And I am hoping that people can hear that well. I know you've written about the fifteenth amendment in per in particular What did what did what do you WanNa? Bring to the people? Who are listening right now? Viewing right now, who may not be familiar with your your thoughts on the subject Korean, but just you know. Just consider all the. To keep black people from voting you know in. The reconstruction of the south. Any black people tried to vote were. With violence. That's introducing. That's an American tradition. you know it? Black people voting. In all elections without harassment is a very recent phenomenon. And sometimes it. Seems. To Win Okay so, you know we. We. GotTa make it possible for. Participate in in in our democracy. That's A. Few more minutes left here with Kareem abdul-jabbar Basketball Hall of fame. Are you feeling well? Because before all this craziness hit we. We're living in a pandemic right now. you're over the age of seventy telling tales out of school that you also had some health history that could leave you vulnerable. WH, what is your? What are you doing in this era of covid Nineteen Kareem. Well you know I'm I'm staying home I? I'm involved in a new technology now were able to. Send messages to people. If you go to. Grad Dot. You can see what I'm doing I. Send Congratulations for Weddings Birthdays. Father's Day. Any anything that you're celebrating funerals. I can speak of that but It enables me to stay close to my fans and you know if anybody wants me to send a message to someone, they know and love I'm I'm happy to do it. You can go to I kinda Graham DOT COM and That's just you're staying inside staying safe. What would you say to? What would you say to athletes today about? Speaking Up, speaking out, and you know because you you reference Colin Kaepernick before. What would you say to athletes right now about this very moment? Kareem? Become. The the truth. And like I said earlier. We have to reach out to all of our fellow citizens and. Make, make friends with people who don't look like you. Can do that. We're GONNA. WE'RE GONNA turn this around. Okay and before I, let you go. Wes unseld passed away today real. What are your recollections about competing with him in meeting him and getting to know West on South Korean. Work was a great guy. You know he was like. A Big Gun? Roadblock on on on the basketball court. There's only like six seven six eight, but still couldn't get rebounds over him because he he just denied. Because on on the court, he was He was awesome in that sense and. A great player in a Nice Guy and I'm GonNa miss them and. My, my thoughts go go out to his family. Cream I appreciate the time. I know obviously You're being asked to appear in many many different shows, maybe many different programs to give your thoughts on on the subject and. You know I've always appreciated you coming on next time. Maybe we could talk a little bit more sports with you as opposed to life in general, appreciate the tightrope that sports. We happening soon you know I'm missing it just like you are I bet you are and Lakers look like they were. They were heading towards another championship in the case right there. On the verge there, but you know you got to play the Games. Do and hopefully they'll be back playing very soon. We appreciate the time cream. Thanks for the call. You gotTA. You GotTa Kareem abdul-jabbar, Basketball Hall of Famer right here on the rich Eisen show. Figured you get an old school. Voice name out here talking about what's going on in the world. let's go back to the phone lines here on the rich Eisen show. Let's go to Leon and Baltimore Maryland. What's up on? A go man I'm I'm hanging in there and I hope you to hope you are in your family. Happy, healthy and safe today where I'm hanging as much as I can hang by the first and foremost Thank you for for just supplying voice. of many. as myself as a African American bail. I'll tell you one thing that my mother and my. Recently late departed mother. She passed last This is this April. I gave me two lines of when I was when I was four years old. My one of my very first memories. She told me you were born. You to strikes all murdy against you as black, and it's your mail. You're gonNA work twice as hard to get there to achieve whatever it is that you want to be so. Shrew, those words Maybe things that have transpired this past week allows people. And see a different perspective and provides a sense of healing. Maybe it allows people to stop those things. Also as a Sergeant Marines United States. Marine Corps Reserve I try to teach marines. You know equality, fairness, consistency, and these are things that that that. Everyone that needs to take those things and just apply them instead our lives. and. Man You had me tearing up this morning this afternoon? Rich once again. Thank you for supplying voice of many and love the show. Thank E for up. Shoot 'em. Thirty remember seeing you on sportscenter when I was six years old. So Rich I really appreciate you man and. Thank you for Janki with the many. And as wishes to you and your family as well right back actually. Baltimore Maryland. As I shared in the commercial break, my back seized up yesterday to hear somebody say yeah. I watched you when I was six. got a little tighter right there. Heavily medicated broadcasting rich Eisen. I was fifteen when I watch you. Rich I wasn't fifteen, so we're good. Thank you, Mike. You're a little bit older than me. Go to y Wisconsin. You're here on the rich Eisen show. What's up what? Are we going rich? How are you? Good. I've a question today about cuyler, Murray. K Y. So last year at an extraordinary year, he's the one up at the rookie of the year. How do you think he can top? That he's in this year, okay now. Why again remind me you twelve thirteen? How old are you eleven? Fourteen fourteen all right? Are you done with school or you done? I'm old school, okay? So you got a lot of time on your hands and I. Appreciate you calling in. Here's the deal. Let me explain to you. Chris Brockman. What did I say in my final? Back when there was sports Wyatt. Ember. This was I thought. This is the end of the year this is this is post. Super Bowl, right across the super bowl. Good old days. Okay, yeah, right right so right after the Super Bowl I. Did my four down segment where every single Tuesday I would do give you four points from the NFL. World is February four. Thank you, Sir and I would give you the first three downs of. Legitimate sports takes. My fourth down. If my back wasn't killing me, I'd get up right now and walk the three feet over and grabbed the hot take. Plank can't reach doctor you. Know Rondon. Don't say it's not worth it. I mean you got your old man's shoes on i. Goodness. Arrigo I'm moving around very shortly so I've got this. Oh God that just actually flared up so anyway. It's a piece of plywood that we've got a rich Eisen show logo. D- PULL UP ON. It's my hot take. Plank I grabbed this plank whenever I would do my fourth down to give the hottest possible. And My. But they're still German truth in IT, okay? Thank you very much. That's what we would do that reason why I'm bringing all this up. By the way, Just show you my commitment to my craft. I. Put my back on the line just trying to. Grab the prop to make my point. But I said in my fourth down that Kyle fresh off of winning offensive rookie of the year. was going to finish top five top three, top three in the MVP voting in two, thousand and twenty. That's how I think Carla. Moore is going to follow up and that was before. Deandre Hopkins came into their world like six weeks. Before. All of that. I think. is going to have a dynamite ear a dynamite twenty twenty campaign. And then you see his head coach, you know drafting. He's James Bond in Bulgaria. Add in his in his house. I think the I think there's nothing but upside for your Arizona cardinals choice this year why? What do you? What do you think of that idea? I think that's one of the most factual things I've heard. I care very good. So how? How about your summer project? You write a paper on Collar Murray you study Kyla Murray's offensive scheme and you send it to us and we'll post it. Okay I'll do that. Thanks okay, and while you're at it. Maybe write another paper about how ride I am all the time why? Also do that. What's your? Homework your homework. Murray your fourth betting favorite for MVP improving the youth of M- America one phone call at a time. Or One fourth day at a time right now if I could only get some Motrin I like. He's called a few times. A lot of kids are like, but I think it's the first one who's done with school as opposed to just every by the way I'm. GonNa guys I got older leave works. Does that Right Mottram? You don't WanNa. Don't say Blue Pill. I mean I know where he was saying. I got some Canadian stuff. More kick to it is. was called LABATT's. We'll take a break more of your phone calls NBC. Programming note will hit a little bit on what's on tonight and stroll down a little bit of memory lane on what Chris Brockman. GonNa Watch tonight yeah. Buddy Ed Reed also still to come here on this edition of the rich Eisen show. Oh a! Let's go to Norris in Louisiana. Let's take Norris's phone. Call here. Line five Mike del Tufo. WHAT'S UP SIR? I've been watching you for a long time. School sports people? That's me I. Know you still have more norris. Seven you sounded I. Totally agree with Shannon Chalk, this is. The best idea that I have heard. When this incident happened when it's time for the lawsuits. I think they should sue the police retirement fun instead of the city. That way the police who are around this kind of atmosphere with stop the other police from done bodily to. Anyone who they can't do bodily harm to. Stop because. You mentioned with my money when I retire and can no longer work. That's going to mess with my income, so they're gonNA. Stop them from doing it instead of suing the defeated. Sue The police car on forum. On the word that's what Shannon said. That last week and I couldn't believe that he's GonNa. Push him with because it never crossed my mind either. Well. I appreciate your. Retirement and I would like for you to spread this around the sports. Arena and tricky down to the news media CNN and a last minute. Try to trickle down to Fox News but well. I just you just set it on my show. That's his big platform as I've got, so you just got it out there and I appreciate you. That's really. DAUNTING IS GONNA. Wait when you hit him in the pocket Monday retire. They're going to prevent all. Because he's going to hurt my appreciate you calling in north. Thank you. You'd be well your family. Happy Health say wait in the city which had nothing to do with it. Doing, thank you for the call. Appreciate that right there so I've now gotten a I didn't. I hadn't heard Shannon. Say that. And neither. I I've now got somebody saying I was six. When I started watching you and I was forty six when I started watching it. Either way I feel very fortunate to have been around as long as I have been. Fifteen don't leave me. Fifteen shot up. Eight four four two four riches, the number to dial. We'll take more of your phone calls when we come back here on the rich Eisen show, don't go anywhere. NBC esn Still Beckons Ed, Reed and more don't go anywhere. Do. You Own or rent your home. Sure you do and I bet it can be hard work. You know what's easy. Bundling policies with GEICO GEICO makes it easy to bundle your home. Owners renters insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing, too, because you already have so much to do around your home, go to Geico, dot com get a quote and see how much you could save. It's gyco easy visit GEICO DOT com today. That's GEIKO DOT COM G. I. C. O.. Dot Com. Hey everybody, eight, four, four, zero, four rich number Dowell. Take more of your phone calls in a second right here on the rich Eisen show tonight on NBC s N. A replay of the first super bowl we ever covered. As as show. In in Arizona. Time. The Great Christopher. J Long used to run. The direct TV and audience network. Mr Premium television himself built. A An. Old West town in a dirt parking lot that turned out to be mud because it rained like crazy. Across the street from. I guess was it even called University of Phoenix Stadium at the time on his. Farm now, okay right right right right across the street from that Jiffy pop dome. That the Arizona Cardinals Call Beautiful Spot, whole national champion Games and everything. Dan Patrick Show had A. Had a hotel where he had the bar and we had the hotel. But we we were there, and it was the first super bowl where ever covered New England at Seattle and Alan Chris called it. with Michele Tafoya the whole NBC crew was there and then bcsm going to repair that game tonight at eight eastern time. And I. Just remember the whole Batra. Obviously. The conversation that lingers and will linger forever in the history of the NFL. Is Why in the hell did marshawn Lynch not get the ball? Again! was that dont`a hightower clipped. Tower one of the greatest tackles. Man at the time because it's set up. Apparently a run pass option for this this. Decision, do we? Do we pass? Everyone wondering why Bill Belichick didn't call a time out because scored, the pats would have had about a minute left to get the ball back and the question. What's bill doing right? And he just let the clock run and run and run, and then we all know Malcolm. Butler came to the fore and. Our property say no one had ever heard, have you? Did you even had you even heard hand everything? He was a sixth guy. He was the sixth defensive back. He wasn't even on the field. He ran on the field and then made the play, and then we saw they had practiced something very similar. The week before leading up to the game and I'd never in my life. I was. It was the first Super Bowl in which I did not. Do the post-game NFL network. I did the pre the pre and post the year before in New York City when the seahawks destroyed. Denver destroyed and I just remember that we we got there at the stadium at like five in the morning and I did the post game show and in the. Third quarter of that game that was already a blow out. Half of my analysts were taking a nap because we were up at like four in the morning and I remember saying. You know. Maybe we should have a split crew from now on. You know like the morning people do the morning and the night through the night, and whatever so I was sitting in the stands with suzy in the kids. Can we brought our? Who? Where like six and three time God? Bless it at any rate the reason I bring this up I'm sitting in the stands and I never before seen. At haven't seen since. A group of fans who went from celebrating to crying and vice versa. In a snap of a finger. I have never seen. What I saw that night Seahawk fans delighting in the fact that they were about to have survived a fourth quarter onslaught from TB twelve himself look. Can you look up his fourth quarter stats in that game? Just it off the top of your head as a Patriot Fan, hold on it. Edwards guys calling me hold on. Okay fine. It was ending was unbelievable. It went. Rain marketable fourth quarter at the time. Okay so. They were celebrating an absolute. Delight insane right we. Got Him. We got correct YEP. So and then went from that to absolutely. Crying. And Patriot fans God bless them. who were beyond distraught? As, if they had never won a super bowl true. Okay as if they had never won the big one. Could not believe at all. That they were losing what just happened and then they celebrated like a never want superbowl before. Yeah, they were I'd Seahawks, fans right in front of me Patriot fans next to me to see that swing right in know seconds. It was the only the only. Moment I could even compare that. was being at the two thousand one world series where Yankee fans were celebrating because Mariano Rivera just sat down the diamondbacks in order in the eighth. And here comes the ninth in game, seven and Rivera coming out for his typical two inning save. Yup, watching the the wives of the diamondback players. Crying. I remember seeing Matt Williams. His wife, who I believe was the actress from blame it on Rio fame. Her name escapes me right now. She was crying. With a bunch of other diamondbacks fans. And then. It reversed, but. That, took place over like a ten minute span I've never seen a snap of a thing that was a it was insane and the thing. That's really remarkable just to bring this. All full circle is being reared tonight. Is it totally OBE liberated. The conversation that took place the entire week leading up to it. which was deflate gate? It obliterated there. And going into that game, we all thought the entire. Game was going to be played under the Paul of what was going on with the footballs, and even if even if. Even if. The footballs we as fans. Knew weren't messed with or they're. Removing it from the concept of scandal. That that would still be the conversation after the game, not even close. Just to bring full circle of just a reminder how much that was on the minds of everybody? The first guest, our show ever had a super bowl. Ever are I in the in the six super bowls that we've covered and we look forward on anymore. The I guess the rich Eisen show ever had at a super bowl. was none other than Marisa Tomei? Because Bill Belichick in his final press conference, trying to put deflate gate all to bed. Leading up to the Super Bowl, you have it Mike. You gotta go for it. I'm not a scientist. I'm not an expert in football's I'm not an expert in football measurements. Just telling you what I know. Would not say that I'm. Mona Lisa veto of. The football world as she was in the car expertise area. HEAVY BILL! So! We immediately got on. The stick, and just like every just like every now and then. Mostly every single time we get a an. against, that's kind of. The a-list from a world that's not of our own right although pop culture world. Suzy's that like I, got this and Marisa Tomei wound up calling in. As our first guest. I guess I supervise I. We've been on the air for three months like. Is Amazing. Still can't believe that happened, right? All of it is that game happened. Like that crazy catch on the sideline is like. A curse, right? What's the name of the receiver? WAS A kid a? Kid He did. You've got got traded to the jets. Tyree two point Oh. Darn over in his lap, and then you're like oh man. They're just going to give the Lynch three times Game Rover. So you took a call from Ed reads guy's GonNa. We rescheduled for TOMORROW THEM YEAH! Something came up with Ed Down in Florida, so he's going to call tomorrow. Yeah I remember Ed's Super Bowl in new. ORLEANS, that was. Unbelievable and just I guess to bring all completely full circle in this hour. And the second hour we'll talk a little bit more sports in the phones lines will be all for you were cleared because Edwards are only guest and he's going to be tomorrow. Show now. Yes, okay. Eight four four two four rich number. Two doll-. Ed Reed Super Bowl. In New Orleans, hometown! He got to ride off into the sunset and his own town. But. He then decided to go to the jets, but that's okay. I'm not just saying that because ED decided to. postponed till tomorrow. It's the truth. He decided he just couldn't quit football. He played for the jets which brought up. I guess to bring this. More the other direction. The my favorite moment for the NFL one hundred all time team show this year. Was Add. Sitting next to Dion Sanders. ME. Chris Collins Worth. Bill Bella check. Dion Ed. And Dion saying to Ed. Hey, tell everybody about going to the jets that one year. And about? What you saw what that? Meant for you? Knowing the story and he would bring up the story. and Ed told the story about how he went there, and it took him all of just a couple of weeks to realize he was brought in to coach the players as much as play. and. The players were in total. The jets were in total disarray. I think this is at the end of the REX Reiner? I think. and. They were in total disarray. Players weren't listening. They weren't doing this. They weren't doing that. He had a comment enshrined set the record straight with them, trying to be a leader. It wasn't working and he kinda wish that he had stayed. A Raven for his entire career. Ed tells this story. And I decided to throw to break by saying well. Ed telling the story about the disarray of the New York jets. And knowing his. Your true affinity for read Bill Belichick this might be a favorite segment in the history of the NFL one hundred all time team show. Bill half. It's one of those things is a host. Were you're kind of like? Please tell me he's laughing. See laughing. He's allowing. He gave a chuckle for some reason that I think that got left army. Floor I don't think that made the final cut. It's kind of a bummer about that. And also played for Houston for a few games that you're really yeah. 'cause it did. The jets released him right? I think he wanted just out of their. Played five games, but any rate ED super bowl. That was the Super Bowl with the blackout in the middle of the game in New Orleans Banana. and. The! Forty niners as you all know. had. Four shots from inside the red zone to win that game. And in the same way that we relive the Ohio State Miami Pass interference call that shouldn't have been called. That game was just recently. Shown in the same way, that NBC's showing all these Super Bowls I forget which entity showed it. I know it was out there because Dan fouts was trending. which frightened me anytime? You see a name like that trending. You're like what is this for all okay? People are complaining about him being biased on behalf of Miami. Oh my gosh. Keith Jackson with that call four shots and I think forty nine hundred fans will tell you that Michael Crabtree was held at one point in the end zone. They should have had a fresh set. No Call! By calling was also. Some some. Some, referee controversy being talked about in a big of the superdome. Where have we heard that one in recent days? And now you're the quarterback. Who could have won that? Super? Bowl, and was on the verge of winning the Super Bowl after amounts to comeback at Ray, Lewis said was brought on by somebody pulling the plug on the generator in New Orleans like at the end of the airplane. Colin Kaepernick. Gene. Colin capper Nick almost won a super bowl. People. I'm telling you what man I know it'd be. You could be accused of. PR THIS PR that. Could you imagine if an NFL team? Steps Forward and says Colin Kaepernick is now on our team right now. New Magin if an NFL team right now got together Colin Kaepernick and he felt like this was a real opportunity. What if the Baltimore Ravens decided. I understand, rg three you're. You're our backup. What if Colin Kaepernick was brought in in Baltimore? With the city truly revolt! WHAT THEY REALLY REVOLT! Right now with everything that's going on in the world. I'm just throwing them out there because if he's not going to be a starter and he's going to be a backup. What better spot would it be? With Lamar Jackson, would they lose and? How much would they add all I'm saying this at the expense of Rg three with all due respect. Now it kind of be a great time. I think. It's been a great time for three straight. You know that. 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The Best Of The REShow: Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Josh Gad, and Ron Shelton (06-23-20)

"Thank you for listening to this podcast one production now available on Apple. PODCASTS podcast one spotify and anywhere else you get your podcasts. We wake up every day. We talk show better than a day with workers were willing professionals. Rich Eisen show named. He's one of our favorites here. One of the all time greats in the history of sports, and not only that in terms of giving his thoughts, giving his heart and giving. To. The community writ large when it needs a voice. He is Kareem abdul-jabbar. How are you sir? I'm doing okay. Are you I'm doing better for talking to you and I appreciate your time. I want to give you the floor. What is in your heart and mind this morning Kareem abdul-jabbar? Well. You know it's kind of like I'm caught between hope and history know. Hope, that Our nation is going to make the changes that needed to make to realize. You know its place and you know what it means, and how important it is that we. Uphold. What the founding fathers actually talked about you know. What Mister Jefferson wrote in a declaration that all men are created equal. We gotta make that a reality. And I think. The events of the past week or so have really shown. To all of America. How much that is not that. and. We. We have to fix that. We have to fix it. What are your thoughts? Your emotions when you're now in twenty twenty, talking about what appears to be the very same issue. You were talking about in the late sixties Kareem. Famous I, I remember the very first time I became aware of it I was seventeen years old, and a young man named James POW was killed by a police officer named Thomas. Get Look at in. Parliament. Erupted into a riot. You know and I could've got shot I. Could you know just? Being out on the street was was dangerous and you know. It hasn't changed any. It's the same exact issue. The same exact issue. Colin Kaepernick. Tried very hard to demonstrate peacefully about this very issue. And what happened to him? He was ostracized. He lost his job. He was blackballed. And this is the this issue. He was trying to talk about and it. Seems that the powers that be did not like him bringing it up. So, what would you counsel today? What will you? What what I guess in a way? That's bringing it to what you you wrote about in your op Ed and I'd like to give you the floor on that subject Kareem. abdul-jabbar that p people have to listen. You know. The. The criminal justice system is tainted with racism from top to bottom. It discriminates. And it makes people suffer and that has to end. It has to end. We have to find a way how? Make criminal cops accountable you know. The good cops. The overwhelming majority of cops are good cops in they suffer to. When bad cops do what they do, so you know we need to find something. To hold a bad cops accountable and keep them from destroying everything that they destroy. Families are trust in the law. they they they, they squandered the good deeds of all the cops. So you know, something needs to be done about. Well also the headline. Make a friend with someone who doesn't look like you. What do you mean? That's a great idea and. Understanding humanity and Understand that Despite the the difference in looks. They might like chess or collecting stamps or whatever it is. that. You like so You know, find out. What we have in common in our great nation. It's the one place to do that. So. What does it mean that? That that would be here. In Two thousand and twenty fresh advice right? I mean I. It's it's kind of. A simple thing to just suggest but. How how how do we come together in that regard Kareem. We? We come together every day I mean. In our nation in especially in the cities of our they the. People of? Incredibly. Very backgrounds come together and work together in and continue to make this the greatest nation in the world. That's what America is about. And we, we gotTA keep happening. We we. We can't let. You know. We we we can't let bias and discrimination. Just? Make a mess of it. You know we can't do that. To find a way to cope. What do you think Mohammed? Ali would think of this moment. Well My. Spoke out. Numerous Times about police violence It wasn't a new issue for him. You can go back in. Check his his statement. You'll see that. He actually spoke out on these issues. Kareem abdul-jabbar here on the rich Eisen show What would you suggest? politicians do people in power people who could make change when when? Power I mean they need to talk to the people they need to talk to each other and figure out a way legislation legislatively. To put laws in effect that will enable people. To eliminate bad cops. That's just bad cops. Be Amazed how how much healing that that that would promote if that was a possibility that they could. Put things that they do. Is there any specific part of the constitution you'd call? People to to take a look at Karim. I know you're. You're somebody who knows that document very well Is there a particular spot that you would say? Hey, person in charge X. Y.. Go. Check this out. Well. The whole idea of promoting voting and making the vote available. Making it possible to vote, I, think is. Part of what our democracy is imbalanced and. Too many especially in red states. They're trying to cut it back in claiming that there's voter fraud. Still grow the front voter fraud is is is not a problem in our country. Unless the Russians are are are are meddling in our elections. So you know we we've got to. Got To make the idea of one man one vote and everybody equal under the law. We have to make those two things a reality. and. I'm hoping that people can hear that well. I know you've written about the fifteenth amendment in per in particular. What did what did? What do you want to bring to the People Who are listening right now? Viewing right now, who may not be familiar with your your thoughts on the subject Kareem, but just you know just consider. To. Keep Black people from voting you know in. The reconstruction of the south. Any black people who tried to work. With violence, That's what you're. That's an American tradition. you know it? Black people voting. In all elections without harassment is very recent phenomenon. And sometimes that seems. To win okay. We gotta make. It possible for. Participate in our democracy. That's a must. Minutes left here with Kareem abdul-jabbar Basketball Hall of fame. Are you feeling well? Because before all this craziness hit We're living in a pandemic right now. You're over the age of seventy Tony Tales out of school that you also had some health history that could leave you vulnerable. What are what is your? What are you doing in in this era of covid nineteen, Kareem? Well you know I'm. I'm staying home? I'm involved in a new technology now where I'm able to. Send, messages to people. If you go to ICON GRAHAM DOT COM. You can see what I'm doing I. Send Congratulations for weddings. Birthdays father's Day. Any anything that you're celebrating funerals. I can speak at that, but It enables me to stay close to my fans. And you know if anybody wants me to send a message to someone, they know and love I'm I'm happy to do. You can go to the Graham dot com, and that's just you're. You're staying inside staying safe. What would you say to? Would you say to athletes today about? Speaking up. Out, and you because you, you reference Colin, Kaepernick before. What would you say to athletes right now about this very moment? Korean. Become. The speak the truth. And like I said earlier. We have to reach out to all of our fellow citizens and. Make them make friends with people who don't look like you. We can do that. We're GONNA. We're GONNA turn the several. Okay and before I. Let you go Wes. UNSELD passed away today, grill What are your recollections about competing with him in meeting him and getting to know Wes unseld Kareem? Westwood's a great guy. He was like a big. Roadblock on on on the basketball court. There's only like six seven six eight, but still couldn't get rebounds over him because he just denied. On on the court he was, he was awesome in that sense and. He's player in a nice guy and. I'm GonNa miss them and. My my thoughts go go out to his family. Cream I appreciate the time. I know obviously you're being asked to in many many different shows maybe. A programs to give your thoughts on on the subject and. You know I've always appreciated you coming on next time. We talk a little bit more with you as opposed to life in general appreciate, the time hoped it. The sports would be happening soon. You know I'm missing it just like you are I. Bet you are and the Lakers. Look like they were they. They were heading towards another championship in the case right there. On the verge there, but you know you gotta play the Games as she do, and hopefully they'll be back playing very soon. We appreciate the time cream. Thanks for the call. You got you got Kareem. abdul-jabbar Basketball Hall of Famer right here on the rich Eisen show. Do you own or rent your home. Sure you do and I bet it can be hard work. You know what's easy. Bundling policies with GEICO GEICO makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing, too, because you already have so much to do around your home. GO TO GEICO DOT COM get a quote and see how much you could save. It's GYCO. Easy visit, GEICO DOT com today. That's Geiko. Dot Com G. I., C. O. DOT COM. Welcome back to the rich Eisen show not just to our listeners and viewers on NBC and Youtube and Siriusxm Channel to eleven. But also to this guy who I- delights me. I mean I? Find nothing about this man, anything but delightful. Love, following him on twitter, at Josh Gad and what he does, and the be the happiness he brings people. Is Immeasurable if only his Miami Dolphins Return Favor Josh Gad here on the rich Eisen show. How are you, Josh? That was such great interest added welcome. Really lovely introduction and then you had to. Had to bow my fish. Now hold on a second now, too, is here. Now, are you? Are you all in onto like you know? Knock on wood. I was I was part of the tank for two. Obviously obviously is injuries are cause for? Concern but I, I'm just I'm all in I'm Brian floor like I. There isn't anything that that man and he's unions approach. I. Think is incapable of achieving with this organization. I and I say that. Somebody who literally had the dolphins winning? Maybe one game last she's in. Was As. Like awestruck in stunned as He outside of Miami by in what they managed to string together including in when it comes, have well I mean I. GotTa. Tell. Ya Josh, you put it all together tank for too I mean. I was hearing about Tankan for to for the Miami Dolphins literally when he? Beat Georgia and the National Championship game, and then, when it was now time to actually put this into plan this plan into place, and it was time to start. Tanking for two with Brian floors is their new head coach, and then Ryan Fitzpatrick is their quarterback. There was no tanking going on those that that's the tank quarterback in the history of anti-tank quarterbacks and Ryan. I know. Yet here we are and yet somehow you know we get to a a think without trading anything in return I. It's just such a shock tape. All. Later. I remember dolphins. Fans were kind of like we didn't know what to do with. Those final represented toes leasing that I pick and losing the opportunity, or so we thought to get to without the first three picks with something that I think we were just all like God, and yet here we are and I bought the dolphins. Just general had a great draft. I think they're really smart. They're making the right moves. Then a gun, you could go back and listen to previous dubious interviews. You and I have done together and I probably said the same thing about Tony's Verano at some point so I. Don't know. You Are you are Josh Gad? You are all about the positive. You're as I said. You're a delight. You like delighting people. You'd like being happy you like being. Having love in the world I. Know this about you. I've seen this. And yet and yet, though the desire to be so absolutely overjoyed out of the spite of beating New England at the end of the season that was otherwise totally lost. I can hear the delight for you to be motivated by that. Particular piece of spite I think is is exactly what fandom is all about? Josh. What by? When the last time we beat them or the season before when we also be. Well. Despite. Over Joy, but that one didn't cost them eventually. You know a a week off the offs. I mean yeah. Kind of Yeah Yeah. Put it all in emotion. In that last loss, the Dolphin stuck it to new. England to get them out of a bye week spot to put them in Foxborough the first week to be one and done by the titans in that is a particular chefs, kissed type stuff right there for Dolphin Fan really in the nine apologized for Glebe Street, and you understand you dominate the BE A. For over a decade, and it wasn't just GONNA domination. He's been the most depressing needle existence for a fan ever like jets, bills and dolphins fans I'd to live with Superman and their division for so long that it was only fair to finally overthrow this insanity of a dynasty. Yes and then you take a look at it, and then just to I guess. Put it a full circle. Little Button on it. The Miami Dolphins are in New England to open the season and twenty twenty, so maybe two thousand. Or fits magic. You know works his magic again and starts things off. That would be amazing for you. I would love I would love to at the. You know to really get healthy, and there's not to witness Houston well. Let's just you know let's give. On fireman like. which was saying and and I hope they don't put him out there and destroy him before he has a chance to really come into because it's an unforgiving. Game and and I want the Diet. I have every opportunity to honestly becoming ex-marine marina become the superstar city has been longing for for for my lifetime Josh Gad here on the rich Eisen show so much going on with your career I'd love to hit them all with you. Artemis Fowl Disney fantasy and adultery an adventure film. Available for streaming this Friday Disney plus what a cast you Judy dench Colin. Farrell Kenneth Branagh directs it What can people expect from this one Josh? That a group some great. Entertainment the. At home, I'm so excited, but movies was originally supposed to be theatrical and have been given of the state of affairs right now. That'd be ongoing pandemic I. think Disney made a very bold and exciting choice to. Disney and it gives everybody a chance to see a really cool adventure. Film lace with Magic based on a series of beloved books by author in culture and The movie is tremendous. It's actually. The last one I saw on the big screen, but there had to shop in place. screening Disneyland and I couldn't be more thrilled I think people are going to get definitely gonNA. Get their money's worth back in. Yeah, it's really great. How do you? How does one prepare to play a filthy? KLEPTOMANIAC, DWARF as you've been described from your character Josh. How does? Wow I really. Really immersed myself. Watching John Davies in their the rings as Gamely AL's. There's a there's a little bit of Hagrid. I like to think of A. Mulches Hagrid by way of him. So this guy is a loner. Out For himself, he can't quite tell what side if any he's and and and there's a lot of that series like Hon Solo. Him Definitely, nothing look. I'm definitely clearly sexy. Harrison. you know. It's such a great character, such a great film and I can't wait for. The again Friday June twelfth as when you start streaming it on Disney plus and then you've mentioned Lord of the Rings Josh Gad, what you are doing on your youtube stream by getting some of the most iconic films and television and back together and the cast back together. Is Amazing I cannot imagine how you have been able to pull all of this off I. Assume you're getting help to get all these folks together. I mean Lord of the Rings. goonies back to the future splash. You Know Hey, Ron, Howard. Are you free when Tom Hanks's free I mean like? Is that. Is that what you're doing to get everybody back together? John. A live reach out, it's a lot of conversations with a lot of people that I greatly admire all in the name of charity you know the truth is is that people clearly have no time on their hands, and usually right now and and you know zoom call if it's an opportunity to raise money for for charity and see like the Center for Disaster Philanthropy. And making ivory, which we raise as of today over a hundred and thirty thousand dollars. I think people. People are really into that idea, and and and providing so many so much joy the time and I think people really need it. It's truly amazing, and is it true your next your next your next shot as ghostbusters Reunion Zoe's you're doing. She's. We're editing that that now and could not be more excited for his. Store and and. It's GONNA be. It's GonNa. Be Hopefully lecture to these to be interesting that times that we find are in and give people not only a a you know an opportunity, the laugh and and go. Revisit a win mouth. I'm taking phone, but also raising money for. Some bowling appropriate calling all right, so let's booking bill. Murray is just like you WanNa talk about a light rail I mean. Isn't it like you gotTA call a number? It's like a payphone somewhere. Right and then they pass along the message to bill and bill's like. Yeah, I'll do it. Is that is that? Is that true? Term because I can't. Consumer denied that I got very. Tell you is, is that Bill Murray is one of. The most notoriously difficult people do. The for anything that is all true. That is absolutely. Percents and how do you fit the stay? Puff marshmallow into zoom. Square great question Josh New interesting he has great in cannot chain in. Wisconsin. The bigger problem isn't getting him. Isn't getting. You know I'm square? It's with no fingers. is very hard to get clicking everybody. On the pad, so that was that was the toughest part so i. mean like because you could also go, Rick. Moranis here's Sigourney Weaver. This I'm locked in. If you know on all of these, it's amazing at the whole. GOONIES CAST Can I make it can. Can I make a suggestion? We've got some some requests. Make suggestions I love which is in suggests okay. I would love to get a reunion of midnight run. Even though I know I know a couple. A. Couple of the active since passed, but you offered Koto is eighty. okay, you know. Obviously we got the two to do. Grodin and Deniro and I I would just love to just get the whole i. It's not like an unsought Joey. Pants right. You got him. gave. Great suggestion behind and thought of and a midnight run into person bomb I think I think the really Nice Parkinson. Both great in engineer very approachable, so I have. Everyone Josh everyone obviously wants to do it for you. It really is something I know it's I just love that movie I don't know. I would love to know some backstories eight them. Do you know just see what happened? Yeah Gimme another action crest. which is another one that you wanted to do? I wanted to do varsity booze. No, you, WANNA do Shawshank. I'm GonNa tell you. Something off the record, which means only you? Everyone to choking. I had started reaching out to the council traffic, but I'm. Not If there would be any possibility of bringing them together. It is in my opinion, one of the greatest movies of the last century but you know it's it's. He seems really it's all about the participants, and whether or nothing and revisit these I have. Done to reach out. They say yes, because I I tend to agree charging being again, people just go and put reunited apart into Youtube and then that's can find everything correct. Yeah, yeah, you can go to youtube. Slash Josh Gad's make it easy and It's great the the at the same, really great, and in doing it deposits all right central park as the animated musical Sitcom that premiered a couple of Fridays ago about family that lives in central park that looks to be honest with you. I'm looking at the the cast. It looks like half Hamilton half frozen. With? Junior. And Kristen Bell just a name four, so it looks like to me. Yeah, and and and then we obviously at the sense that people like Stanley Tucci. Neither no sitting. Third that's. It is that's a tremendous cast, and in such a tremendous show. I, I'm so blessed to to call myself. Take on along with the. Creative, BOB's builders and Moore's. There's there's just something so joyful. About this series and everyone who's been watching has been You know paying that four to two. In letting US know how much not only the show itself between credible music, written by an Sweatman of geniuses, including Kate Anderson Lisa Sam, and and Brent North and and some unbelievable composers like Cindy Walter, aiming their offense. it's a great group. been and and the show is currently on Apple Watch, and and it is a must up. Amy and the Magnolia Soundtrack is one of the greatest movie soundtracks of all time and. So getting cheated, such a good song and well wrote I think that like everybody who is the show is being over and over. Again when I saw the cast. You'RE GONNA have frozen half. Hamilton I just thought what if the they mixed right that a revolution was brought to Arundel or when the British were or when the British were. We're fighting against the colonials. If they just got frozen literally like just like. Mad A. It's not a bad idea. I got a great idea. Well Josh Before I. Let you go off. You have been here before, and it's always a delight when you are here. My sound man I sound engineer my audio executives. He likes to be called Mike, del Tufo, fifty four year, old, single man or divorced man. From the State of New Jersey. Generally unmarried. Now. Now. Here's the thing is that what's the? What's the oldest Olaf man you've ever come across? Who's Oh manner couldn't trust people in their nineties. No like like like have all the stuffed animals have all the have? Oh, yeah, you need surprise. Luck Nets multi generational I mean there are? There are people who are in their eighties and nineties like how a lot paraphernalia? Let me know how important that character to them, and I think it's a, I think the reason that people connect to for that guy is there's A. There's a sense of like child childlike. Wonder Wonderman that I think a lot of us. forget that we have even older and it reminds us. Of the purity of looking at the world gets got the. Optimism that all things new because Mike, you do want to say something I. I mean because here's a character. You've got a how many I'll items. Do you have in your house? What's the full-size one, okay? Then everyone. I've like the full size one and then I have multiple. I got to. thinking. Sending for yeah. Go. And I have one in the Cup holder in the rear, the one car. That's not weird at all. A metaphor for anything. Is My co pilot that feels like a hostage situation. He's my co-pilot. Right I'M GONNA. Put you on the spot before I go. Can You How would olaf term the drafting of to a tunnel vilo to the dolphins? Can You, can you? Can you tell me what to a thought about that draft or or or beating the doll beating the Patriots and knocking them out of the the by week position? You got something for me on that Front Josh got. I Love! Everybody equally and I tell you that. Kim Joy to see any down. Thirteen been you in? who had it coming for a long time those? Let. Your the best. Keep doing what you're doing. Stay in touch, okay. Off. I love you guys. I just don't like the fact that you would. Take care of Yourself Josh. That is Josh Gad At Josh Gad on both twitter and Instagram artem is foul. This Friday June twelfth on Disney plus Central Park on Apple TV plus has been. Available since the final Friday in May and then go again to YouTube dot com slash Josh Gad, telling you. These reunions are amazing I. Do not know I mean the thing. That's so impressive. The logistics it must take to get everybody zooming in at the same time. Oh, you tell you tell Serena in. No, no, no, no sir. Hit, there's a there's a there's A. There's a microphone on the bottom. Line through. We don't hear you Surrey and we don't like. Your videos not on, and it's this big photograph of Gandalf for. or No from from X. Men, he's Magneto. MAGNETO magneto. It's hard to do two or three people forget the film cast. It's sure to get your friends. I had known deal off was. Not a fan of the patients everybody can everybody. knows. that. That's the point of the. 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Visit that online DOT AG and don't forget that. Homo Code podcast one for you sign up. Bet Online your online sport experts. We've been talking all day long. Amount Bull Durham because it was. Was it thirty two years ago today? Nineteen, eighty-eight, wow, I hit a theater. One of the greatest movies of all time period I'm not just saying that because he's on the phone lines kind enough to call in, and he's one of the favorite people that my wife and I have met here in Los, Angeles but He's a director of Bull, Durham and other great films He is none other than Ron. Shelton, how're you Ron? Glad? You called it 'cause. I can stop watching the Nebraska State Cornel Championship for. How does it turn out Ron I? Don't mind it being spoiled. How does it turn out? All the fat guy bits the other. Guys are really good at Cornell. I Guess Happy Anniversary Ron Thirty two years ago today. I didn't know it's pretty frightening. It was that long. GonNa wear just trying to. Annoy idea that the movie would be received the way it has been. It was my first movies directly. Just hope somebody goes the theater, so you can get another job and. So, it really was a glorious shock how it was. Played Yeah. When did you first realize it was going to hit on your hands? Ron. Well the reviews were great, and you never quite know. It didn't test all that well is. Strange, because audiences laughed and cheered and then. And then wrote on the cards, forty-seven ways I could make better. So. We weren't sure, but it did great out of the box and it just kinda chugged along all summer so. After the second weekend when people kept going it didn't it didn't go down. we thought we were in good shape. Now did everyone you want to be cast in the roles? Get the get the gigs, or is there somebody that that? That you you wanted that didn't make it or vice versa. Got Everybody was a long process I had Kevin. Because I showed him the script and he was on board and. every woman forty did a great audition for any. it was amazing, and then we. When Susan. Got The part and was you know couldn't imagine anybody else, but. The nuclear lose. Part was hard to cast to be honest because. A lot of guys look like young versions of Kevin and you couldn't have young Kevin and older Kevin so. We had to find somebody who was completely. And and lovable and goofy. And You. Know Tim had never been in a movie. He'd actually been in Howard the duck, but he didn't tell us. That was the biggest flop of all time. So he he told us he'd never been on a show an. Okay now. We had Tom for duty on before Ron. The baseball reporter overheard US talking about this. He said the current braves manager. Lent his Is Catchers meant for Kevin in this film is at a true story. I never heard that one before. SNIGGER. NETCO. Yeah, SNICKER! There was a bunch of guys. Grady little with the manager of the actual Durham Bulls. We came into shoot. Right up to the season's over. and. He was just a guy like crash Davis at the end of our movie grinding it out. And so I met him, and I said, can you find some Minor League ballplayers college ball players who are needing. A couple of months, work and the baseball, so grady little round the baseball. for US long before he became manager of the dodgers, and the red sox and Snicker, something was around, maybe in the minor leagues. 'cause that was a braves. Organization Durham those days. And yeah, he somehow we got his glove I. Mean, I've stayed in touch with Smith bullet ears and. So it's in this case. He's not lying. Gosh. Oh Wow so. What would you consider the best baseball movie of all time? Ron. Maybe not getting. Love is I'm pretty tough on baseball. Movies are the original bad news bears. The honest yes. But and then later I coach little, league and discovered. Wait really way too much like welder mats. Were you having a tumbler to in the dugout. Is You're saying? They. The League put an ankle bracelet around the our girl believer. Could come out of the DUGOUT. So? I finally retired when I got old enough I could. Free Him, from? The father. But you look bad news bears anything else. Because the other ones that we chose. All right You know I mean I think there's good things about. The sports movies I like are. Are are kind of been around weather. Hustler is is one of my top movies. The bull movie if that's sports movie, okay. There's a great boxing movie that very few people have seen the called fat city. Introduced a guy named Jeff Bridges. And it's kind of the lower rungs of boxing. Anybody! On netflix. This sporting life is. English rugby movie with Richard Harris. Just kills me every time you go in deep here on. That's deep. Gone. It's hard for me to watch sports movies. For critical. I bet you bet you are well. Hoosiers is is up there for me. I love it. Had David. Onslow the other day talking about hoosiers and Rudy in what's real, and what's not, and I guess that's what makes a great sports movie of what you're describing certainly with Bull Durham is what's real, and it just feels so real when you watch this. It's like you're watching. Behind the scenes just as a an in a comedy in a love story form, it's it's it's it stands. It's time before I can't see. A filmmaker can't compete with television and he's a fool to try because television. Sports on television is just. You know off the charts and seventeen cameras and. Replay from seventeen angles and And you can't do that, and but what I can do is I can put my one camera all the places. Seventeen cameras can't go. And, that's all they tried to do. Go on the bus trips go. The Hong locked or go to the shower. Going the apartment with a guy in girl or doing whatever they're doing. It on the manager's office and. And that's I can I can go with TV camping. That's where I live in. Iran. If you could make a sequel for any of your sports movies, which one would you endeavor? Which one would you do it for? I'm trying. I'm trying to make a movie about a former. Major League Baseball Star. Who tries to. Make It on the golf tour. The way that guys like Mike, Schmidt and bench. Okay guys do, Schmaltz. And it would sort of the end of the Boulder Ten Cup trilogy. So that's what I'm trying to do. You're not you're not joking. This is what you're trying to do right now. I can tell when you say Kevin Costner wants to do. Where You know putting it together takes a little while because. 'cause it's not a marvel comic book. I love you rod you are. You are the best thanks for the call. I would see that by the way all of us were just. We all sat straight up in our chairs. Everyone. Yeah, we would do it. And I to your brother, beautiful bride. Right back at you. Thank you, that's that's Great Ron Shelton. Hey this nfl hall of Famer Ray Lewis. 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Cedric Maxwell Interview: Larry Bird + Celtics Memories

Bob Ryan & Jeff Goodman NBA Podcast

54:30 min | 2 months ago

Cedric Maxwell Interview: Larry Bird + Celtics Memories

"Uh-huh bit. Here all right well. Asian. You. You Go. Let's get this all going in and just bsn. I will just go with it. We'll have some fun on mediate if I have to work out all right. Here we go. To legends in basketball, analysis, with over seventy years combined experience. This is the Bob Ryan and Jeff Goodman podcast and the a some college of everything you say. Here with him. I was okay with it because it wasn't about talent I didn't think all right. Let's let's get right to it. I pleased to bring in the latest edition of the Ryan Given podcasts there he is Bob Ryan, showing the number thirty one, and it is none other than listen. Forget about former Celtics greater all that crap. He is the host of an award winning podcast right now. That is Cedric Maxwell. Thank you, Joe? ME, on and or we get started. I got I got to put this the duress right now arrived for some reason, the said I've been met. We have all these years all these years and I have not Brian was one of the best riders around and one thing that are Ryan. He'll eat might remember this might not. Ryan wrote an article about Celtics of it probably nineteen, seventy eight. It was talking about how the team bullet transition because he saw all these old players, we had Joe Joe, and all these other guys they were moving on. He wrote this article said I see the future at Ford Right now and the Cedric Maxwell. Let make mistakes he can make his. Is. So Bob we ask you this. You are always been one of my favorites. That's good to know. Maxon and I got a lot of things that a flattering things to say about you'll before over two people who never saw you play. Miss something, good bottomless thought with this because we're talking. We're just having a conversation here. In the summer of one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, two I was doing a book on minor. League Baseball Niagara arrived in Kingston North Carolina for a three game series in June, and I want to know I guess school wasn't out. NYDIA was wasn't what the? What Young Cedric Maxwell was might have been doing while I was going to the ballpark those three days. What was life like young, said Nick Maxwell in the summer of Nineteen, seventy to nineteen, seventy to kissed the North Carolina when you were there. Ozzie to plan basketball. Holloway Center or I could've been at the baseball game. 'cause I was a big baseball them one thing my father will give me money for was go see that's had the kids. The Eagles play and I saw dock Ellis pitch in. Way Back in the day so I love baseball You know when you told me the Surrey about you'd be kissed it and you're saying it was literally on the other side of tracks as Lack! You're white. That's what difference I just I just tweeted out some bits today about your love. It it was like maybe five six years before that nine, hundred, sixty, eight, sixty, seven, sixty six those years, my parents would go down to my father's hometown in Norwalk. Georgia, and we had to Myrtle beach and we stop in Myrtle beach every year Merlo Beach essentially had what was a black beach or colored beaches. They said that. It was so bad off the what they did to separate. The two and I tweeted out this your lover. They had a chain link fence which way in the ocean where from whimper the shore all the way out probably, maybe about a football field out at the ocean, so we keep the the black people separated from the white people as segregated. It was so it was. It was an unusual time back then in the seventies the. Seventies sixties with you and our cat around there. One. What was it? You know the question? I always have a younger than you and you don't get Bob we know. But but when you came here to Boston. And I heard it when I was a kid growing up you heard about the city of Boston and the rap that it was getting at that point through the Bill Russell Days in in the days when you were playing of it, being racially charged city in a city that a lot of black outlets did not WANNA play in Boston at that time. What was it like then for you to play? And how has it changed if it has changed over the years well? First of all when I came to sell this, I didn't want to be here because I just didn't want to be Boston. The team that picked at a bit was Atlanta so off from the south so I. I wanted to answer Austin had nothing racial on anything. I had done already in my life being in the segregated area. It in all things are gonNA happen is that? Bussey at the time it happened for me maybe six or seven years earlier, when of high school and College, so I had gone through all those things I didn't see the ratio on l.. Boston has a monopoly on racist. Everyone's. They're all my guy. He planned boss that no I've had some. The worse things happened. When I played in La that were racial, or or I was in another city I. Remember remember things. There wasn't racial, but it was really funny among male car laughing at me, he and I were endeavor and was when those off days and he and I went to movie. And I'm standing there. You know by going to movie this made. He walks up to me and just her lovie ticket. As the House of. The first. GYSI died. That Has the same thing and we haven't Boston. He was at the airport. Guy Walks up to a and has the NBA his bags. As you as the bill things, so it was so so things happen from a racial at what some of them happened to be funny when you look back on. Right now the racial environment wiggle world is Boston does not have monopoly on racist especially in America. Everybody says that about the and all this other stuff. Here's the thing. Is Talk About Boston? Read our back to his credit. Many years a couple, maybe two or three years ago, Boston Police Department went to honor. Read our back like history. Will people just went in uproar by hockey, do they? Do they come to. The that black person was me maximum. Why are you feel about that? Oh my call. They're doing this beggar black history month I said. Let me. What they're doing right now, they're honoring. Read our back, but his relationship. With Culture and blacklists in the movement and pushing it. And then I said there's nobody else to say I said is not called black. This is called black history month. It's now called black people. And what they did on the read our back, there honored him what because he had black layer? To he ended up having the first starting black by, and had is up having the first black coach in NFL, an Mba and people just people mouth kind of fell open open when I was telling this story, so they didn't even understand the significance of Walston when it came to NBA at Gaza color in a planet. This league read our that all he wanted was one thing. You know he didn't give a damn. You were red, green verbal. You lay them that you going to be all employees didn't care about it. I don't know you and I have ever talked about this. I may have wanted to at some point early on, but when I started covering the team in nineteen, sixty nine, it just so happened. That would still era of roommates, and they're all the roommate pairings as much as possible where black and white. I don't think that was an accident, the. Guys automatically you know they. They were friendly, but I like I know for example. With chicken sach, they were very good friends, but everybody was. It was David Joe Joe. It was a chain. Nelly et Cetera on down the line. Khloe that came from the top that was. Yeah, it added it you. You think about that movie that came out. It was a couple years ago. Kalemie award winner, Green Book. And they talked about the Celtics in that movie, and at this one guy who is a was a great. Piano. Tour this out any Wichita's one restaurant where one restaurant where you wanted to be playing using, but they didn't want to seventy, and if the guy pulled to the side, who was the older of the places and let me say use up? When the world champion something came through here. Where do you think they're big older? Bill Russell with. He said. I don't know what year so even at that time and less. Why I? Really Admire Sachin those guys that they could not go to certain places, and that's one thing by cousy. Talk by that would thing that really bother me the fact that. Like. I should have pushed up. Even more with Russell wasn't allowed to go into a restaurant and equip. This is one of my teammates. At the last pass was powerful Gary pomerantz spoke I. Recommend it to people on this. This is a ninety year old man pour his soul out about how he should have been done better than used his forum, which brings us to using forums more and more. That's this weather watch word. Today is all athletes in this climate that we're living in today, the Fourth of June two thousand twenty and everything that's going on in America and blowing awareness and desire of athletes I. Don't know if you saw this the paper today Max. Patrice Bergeron of the Bruins born in Quebec. Thirty four year old came didn't even speak English. You gotta go read when he said today. It was as powerful an unaware statement from Caucasian about what he feels. He should be doing what he didn't get what he now gets and and and. Really good stuff, but I mean this is typical dislike. The you get the feeling that there's a blossoming of athlete awareness to the. Bird now. Will should I should I ask you? The same thing about drew brees. Say I. Mean Really Sometimes you get it. Sometimes you don't and this is what makes Lebron James me now. The coach and I say this, because not what he's done on the floor, because what he's done all the vote with you know social issues, and all these about unless slapping at Michael. Because during his time there was no new social media platform that Michael was able to get on but Michael. Intentionally stayed away from those things, but Ryan James Jumps into these things with two aides in. Race relations in all the things that might you know might come up so I understand and I think that flares stepping out even more even Jalen Brown Jaylen Brown drive eighteen hours for Boston to Atlanta to beat with his spreads to go out and protest at loved it. I didn't like about that is when I saw him talking without Mascow. Old Who GonNa lead leave example, maybe later on put one on, but yeah. Most players are stepping up to the Mike. And I I think that what we know now is is community you know athletes are separate as they were one time before from everybody else. They is a community of. cheesier because social media I mean that that's the biggest difference now is right, you can have you know a guy from Portland Matching up with somebody here in Boston, and doing a video together or or or doing podcasts whatever get their message out the way they want to do it. That is true, but don't you think that Michael? Jordan had that flat wound, or he had one hundred percent day. A what. Of the guys who had that platform? If Michael Jordan spoke on that issue at that particular time, it would have resonated not as much because not many people heard it, but it wouldn't been far off because people live in died on every word that Michael Jordan say, but Lebron and I listen. I've been around Lebron since fourteen ended ABCD camp. He has been that for so long in the social media world that he has learned like the people that he's. He's been around at Nike now. They made one big mistake with him. Obviously with the decision how they approach that, but for the most part he's gotten pretty good sound advice throughout his career on how to handle certain topics where I'm not sure. Michael maybe had that at that point in his life. Lebron was much further at an earlier age. He had to deal with well. We'll let me ask what you ask this. This is something that happened recently. was there by the month ago stated Georgia opened up early. They opened up early in the was a shoe store. That at that time released. Michael Jordan shoots. A long line of kids with no mask on was standing there. They're smart people at night Michael Jordan smart. Why would you do that? What energy. You with this you or the market ten years now. You have a line of people. What was the purpose in dropping shoe right now? With the endemic? The way it was, I didn't understand. I'll a new the new the answer for you every ball. I don't have one. It's A. Custom of the day the word is the bad optic. It's it's the way beyond just a ban tickets. It is almost a tone deafness thing. It's indefensible I guess that's the word I'm searching for. It's not there's no defense for. Michael had no idea. Let's be honest what? Michael had no idea the idea. Shoe Komo, no idea no I I guarantee master. He had no clue I guarantee. You can serious. I enjoyed the nuts. They were dropping shoot. Hell No! Matter. And, what day what time and where a wet day, but right now in this particular case I'll give you that you'd see what this is right now. I'll let me right now is at church because I have a Bible in my hand right now. What pitcher might short? Me Right now and I need the secret service cleared by the outright and need to go take this picture. You gotTA. Actually got. Off. Very Awkward? You gotTa Rockwood. That was absolutely gone. Up Word of the day optics and what? You're going really seriously. Actually if if if you're drew brees team mate for the New Orleans Saints Right now. JERE forgive him. And how the hell is it going to be in that locker room this year? I say I say you could give up which you're not going to get. You're not. GonNa get richer. Drew brees can say what he wants to say at this particular time. But again. Whether you did these centrally. He said this three or four years ago. Or whatever was essentially? He comes back to doubles down now. Who who doubles down? Into anything guys. Guys rented anything ratio right now in this world and thinking that. Hey, you know what this is a good idea it's. No No. Endemic going away these endemic out there to have the race relations away there are black and white Mr. Floor S in the way the the whole country right now galvanize older. The riots in protest peaceful peaceful when you decided this particular time to come out. When his teammates again I I try to understand that, but there's one other thing which is should say about your. Look also at his record. Look what he's also done in the community with L. people color. Look at so there's another San Mateo that people aren't going to look at, and they're just not gonNA. Look at anyway now. Where this is going to stand over, he'll just like many other things. Have student athletes, their or their lives? Bob, what's your? What's your memory of of Max? Run memory that comes out when you when you see maximum, you think of him, a younger more athletic. Now Wow! Max. I was there in the media room. When you took a fall involved. Layer I. Do that what? It's the image is a dinosaur. Because what he did isn't done any longer. Setting up shop shopping at low post, and we're going in squirming and figuring out a way to get that ball in the basket and doing it with a combination of ball, handling skill, physical dexterity intelligence desire. toughness. I got a quiz Max Max. As I can ask retain. You're a member of a very exclusive. A very very very exclusive club. That has to do with your scoring, do you? Have any idea that club that you are specifically a member of. People who might be who arrived we'll? Look remembered this club I. You know I love and I want you to tell me so I can tell Jason Tatum and I can tell ground later on. Numbers are three, four, three, three, three, thousand, four, hundred, thirty, three, three, thousand, five, hundred, Ninety, eight, the first one is the number of career field goals, three, four, three, three, the second one is the number made free throws three, thousand, five, hundred, Ninety, eight, one, hundred and sixty, five more free throws maiden that field goals. What does? The ABSTRACT JEFF! What's that? Tell you if you never saw this guy play. What would it tell you that the the dude is tougher shit that he gets to the basket? Anyone contact embraced it, and and and that's to me. Again I'm a little bit younger. That's what stood up for me about Max. Okay on the the. Night on the on the Let's see what the data sixteenth of January one, thousand, nine hundred eighty Max. You went to the free. Throw Line against the Bulls Nineteen Times that. You only may twelve dammit. How who whoever? Here's Tibet Cudi top you. That's because you're already on the eleventh actually ninth of November and seventy nine. You went to the free. Throw Line twenty two times against the Kansas. City whatever they were then. kings and you made seventeen at twenty seven points five goals seventeen free close twenty seven points. Your frequent totals were stanching, and they are reflection of a style of play an expertise to style of play that. No longer exists. You are Bob you right is is the game of announcer right now. People aren't looking for twos around the basket which I think are absolutely crazy to the greatest players right now to me wherever? Tennis Shoes Paul Pierce. And the other one might be Kobe Bryant masses of the mid range of shots, and now those shots are taboo. When you were? She goes people go I. was a bad shot usually to breeze whatever it is so I totally understand and I said without. If I was planned today, I'd have to translate my game. The one guy who's gave is at the Jemaine translates as well as any will be. Larry Joe Bird in today's game. Everybody talks about Luca Look with the Nukus a great player right now for doubts. But Luke it would be Sydney coach, and the learn will be like. Give upgrade to first class. That's an ESA differs in the two guys in this loop is a great player. You think about Labor. Shooting evolved from the outset rebound. Has All those things you look Larry the attention, and and the biggest thing I. think toughness. As what I'd say about their bird even I remember that always tell the story I was I related is Larry Bird. You might remember the can man. We would just going at it met like. outscored their during this time. 'cause Larry couldn't guard me and maybe Rosamund the booksellers. Maxwell. I didn't know which way he was going. Without remember Larry Bird separate on the court. The first time I was up. We're Hellenic college and was on the floor and I'm up in the area. They hadn't both stage of their and I'm sitting now arts wealthy and I. Get the. Slope flat year and I'm thinking about nine. I'm saying it out. Loud very comes great white. Hope here we go. Step loud recorded I sat with him. Few wait hands down. Played, okay mic that balance closer eighteen fate, and the closer I got further he got. He just is lacking. Now's jazz in me. As a black player always say I was prejudice, said that time, because I didn't know why. Gas Blake. IDEA. I remember the first black person. I could get to route that ranks the nowhere. White got complete. Right that's. Okay! I just laughed and I say God. God to me is a funny guy. God doesn't four for Guy who is prejudice about black players. He doesn't give me one great white lear. No. Doing, the greatest white, never the play a game. Together. Maceio. So I'm just. Crew Arabic remain as A. Player, the League is to the greatest wet to in my match to the greatest white lers ever played the gap. Now on March. How much did you and burt talk? Going back at each other. Saying! You know what Larry didn't talk. That's what people don't understand. Larry, GAZZA's wasn't. Hours doing the talking Kevin mckinnell mlk. All of us were talking Larry then tell that much junk that later on here. Alert through the greatest trash-talk grow of all. Without play. He was not. S. He wasn't a great. trash-talker that. Max You and Don Cheney, or the only two people who played with both John Havlicek and Larry Bird. What, what can you just? Go thought that you. Check you got him at his. Age Thirty six his final year. What was it like view to be around John Havlicek? Yet John. And this is what was crazy about it my brochure. John was John's last year. And I just remember plan, and in Washington come on the floor in now and. He came to. Read. The didn't make him come to. Camp came to camp late every year, but man came it just fine. Damn this do and I'm trying to keep up women's young player bigger late. This should be a piece of cake may he ran come up these picks cutting back. The other way was just amazing guy in and I don't think I was hurt. As I've ever been with the last time. I saw John and that's when he was at the garden once it might have been honoring pope years, and so I came down to speak as speak. John and I saw him and other ain't John. How you doing man was going like no egos seeing. Are you I didn't know. He added early early stages of Alzheimer's at that time, because I was like put office. That John John of play with you know, but I didn't know. Know the John Essentially it recognize. While was at the time I didn't know what he was going through. So as why I say think about players who they were, and you know you you think about. The rate was playing with they. Pallets was stars low about Davison play with day to among this race in Manhattan stuff. Some is knows it takes his snow and I'm like Whoa I'm thinking that dude, surreal man, next thing you know by frees me up opens this Shirley. Blows his nose in in his shirt in their rugs all over his body. I'm like holy. Does this kind us up. And then another one that was about was just as good, was he marriage? We blade with Pete's slash here. he was with us and Surrey was just really was just Kinda. This week he gets the ball when the grizzlies ever yes, the ball passes into. Larry. Larry forces up a shot. He's made comes down to don't what seems Larry? Neri. Shall we call timeout? Somehow we come to the bitch. He looks nervous. Mary Larry Their Double Jeannie. Me Know you gotta pass the ball. Larry in the southern drawl just looks up during the one who what? If you're any damn good. It would be double team with me as like they have the. One superstar about it, so Larry I have a filter at all with the key to who you were and what you did, but those days and remember playing with Jo Jo, white coolest do is a world. One of my best for one of my mentors. I love her under Tommy Heinsohn. I had at that year. My Persia had seven guys who belonged all star team. They being was long time. all-star team Sidney Wicks Curtis Rowe Joe Joe of halbe check How it's It was just on and on. They be man. Those dues mad at and you think about they would have been a collection of. Unbelievable all-stars, but they got old all of a sudden in one day in one season and It was just bickering between all these guys in just didn't work. I shall watchful. Is it myth or not, did you? They don't put wls on the paycheck. That was said by. Curtis Rowe. was. THROWS WHO's row said to me. One two games, he said allies scored ten fifteen. Is it wrong. They don't put ills and WS paychecks. Okay, there's were called I in fifteen. And that's what you worry about and so yeah, that was that was A. Maximum this week. Sad. We been sad couple weeks I. Jerry Sloan. You did not play against the you coach. You played against his teams May. West unseld, who I'm taking this art I, loved West. Did you ever run into one of those famous takes. Oh I, did the members? Garden. That time you're you're. So much energy that I'm guarding my man full court know Gaza Garvey Bit Awkward Nba, on Garmin Man. Full court trying to take it from I'm not listening. I'm oblivious to everything around me. I know here one of my teammates screaming out it rookie. Running force being night I hit West assail it. May I just lead right down? I will never forget how hard he hit me and that that was like one of those things, and like I said that play with him against you. Those words lady years so for me. It was fun because by then he could even move. Here those bad knees carrying weights of trying to guard me. Elephant trying to catch a league because I was like by the time he turned, I was already gone so i. think that you look at it that way. By that time he may have been tipping around three hundred and. I always say if you've ever seen any videos maximum him. The first, you'll love this. When the first time I laid eyes on him was in nineteen, sixty six BC is playing in New York and holiday festivals against logo, and we beat them in triple overtime, but not before he found out on the second overtime with thirty five points and twenty six rebounds, and at that point he was a saw he was six six plus Afro and about. Two hundred and forty and he had lift. Then I know it's hard to believe what the guy. I heard. Al And is youth and as well as A. Powerful thrust went up with force. You. Went, up, with force his powerful jumper, West. But the guy. You're going to the chip around three Oh. Remember one of the stories I heard about him, which was legendary was backed that West could literally go. Get a rebel. It mid air intern. Hit The backboard, but we hit the ground. He could turn around and bill the ball all the way to the other end of the floor. That's how strong that's how it was yet remarkable player. You'll. He will be one of the legends legend of the game, but you're also be legend in that Baltimore Washington area for what he did for that and then later on became when Washington when they're only championship he was. VP So I have that connection with him? So yeah, it is. It's a great loss for this league and in our with this league this year to to lose lose commissioner those Kobe Bryant loose slow now losing and losing or the season, this twenty twenty year will never be forgotten. There will be. It will always stick to me as one of the most use the team that wizard this year I. Don't think there should be an asterisk beside their name, because what they're going to have to go through the winning in all these other things to stops and stars that to me is real as Javits, you might get. Go there Max looks. And he's right I. Agree with him. Let's moving forward this. You know twenty two team. Playoff. It's going be in Orlando and some of the the bottom teams. Are GonNa? Fight for you know the eighth spot whatnot. You know in terms of how much of an advantage you think it's. GonNa be Max for some of these teams and the players that have already been able to work out I I talked danger about it a couple of months ago early and remember that point. TATUM wasn't even. who he was a dribbling, he wasn't shooting obvious change very quickly after he said that publicly, but how much of an advantage to guys like Lebron. Like Kawhi have because they've had their own James. They've been working out throughout all this. You would think that that'd be a big event and it might be too great, but you think of it this way. Maybe. It's going to be more refreshing for like Jason Tatum who hasn't you'd think since he's been probably five years old when he could ever dribble a basketball, it's the first time he's ever been the with the basketball probably three months three four months, so he can put more fuel in arbor him that he is a younger player is going to be different now springing out I, remember my first time practicing with the Celtics. We have all these old guys newly okay practice going to be our, but we had to warm up. We had the stretch for thirty minutes. I'm like am. In this way. Get over with look brook you'll understand. So, there was a my buddies out later became a. we need to stretch. We need to do all these things. So with Tatum Brown, and the Celtics the younger D it might not affected as much with it might affect somebody older players. Look at a guy like kimber. Kimber maybe needed this law. The yield is body, so I think everything is going to be even the fact that you're going to go into the Rena Airbuses would know bands. How's that? How's that going to be? Back to when you played out your backyard, your you your freeze. And some of the battles were epic that you think about, and you didn't think about bands. Being there now is our home court advantage, which is going to be lost. Yes, NOT PLANET BOSTON. Yes, not many Milwaukee or la but I think the Fratto planned in a game might supersede all those other things with currently no NBA NHL, or Major League Baseball. You might think there's nothing. Nothing a bet on well, you'd be wrong. Bet. Online still has hundreds of places to wager from their online casino to poker and Blackjack all open twenty four hours a day and all online sports aren't totally done. They're still mixed. Martial Arts Golf, each sports and many more that online your full access wagering solution I'm not prepared to leave the way back machine. The Review Mirror yet. Jeff I WANNA bring up. We really didn't do a proper introduction. I don't want us to get out here. We're not letting the growth noted we're talking to a man who led the League in field goal percentage at one two years in a row with the following percentages, six, zero, nine and five, eight, four, nine, hundred, seventy, nine, hundred, and seventy, eight, seventy, nine, five, eight, forty, nine, eighty, six, nine, so in a career percentage of five forty six and I got one important question for you. Max Though this. On the twelfth of the member in one, thousand, nine, hundred eighty three indicia Kogyo stadium. You. Put Up! A three point shot attempt the only your career. Do you remember the circumstance? Was the clock running? No, no, no, no I I remember. The made one. I've made actually was in Houston. And that's the one that's the one I may what I may want to use other ones. We just kinda throwing it up because the TAB was going in Houston. That's the one that shot, and I remember. We actually lost the game. I came out and Danny Age. We're in the locker room and I stood behind with no by conceive and I. Put my hands up and. Let's got three. So that's the only wood. Floor. At the Corner De. Corner in Houston always always remember that I remember. I was I was around for the first shot. It was ever made three point shot was ever made in. Boston my good buddy. Crisp born shot it from the same corner. So yeah, that was the first. Eight yes right? Yeah so. That was a dating game change. At the game change when they came down on a fast break, instead of fanning to the basket, he. Ran To the, corner? Know, whether tiny game in the baller Larry Game The baller whoever the hell gave him the ball. If somebody gave him the ball, and he took that little tippy toe set shot, where does it? Right Yeah. Maybe not much. Our say that is true, and if you want to drive me crazy in the NBA game right now, you let me as this girl McRae's by Horford. Under the basket. Lanes out to the corner or three. If you want to read the. Crowd just what I used to. Take to will take a guarantee to set a possible three unless you really need. A coached out of the young guys last night I. There's a game last year Max what watching an equitable to to Robert, Williams by with, and he's I'm not kidding. He's two feet. E could probably be reached up and dunked it, but he sure had a nice little to jump. Hook clip never even entered his mind. Cause it's. Out of them, he immediately to the corner. Ori has done morning ruined basketball. He's the best. Lewis did the baseball with this. Crap and a three point shot mania that is distorted disdain forever. That thing that people talk about is like Steph. Curry and I've heard a lot of people. I did a podcast with Mike Cooper. Michael Cooper tells me right now. You know what I could stop her. Who? were. Women think about garden guys. Because now they're pulled up three or Three point line in. Will we as you threes? We were let me use the word like my grandfather. We were shocking it up to Israel. We weren't shooting it. Has Right now is. Through in the you, James, Harden God bless you know the way he is a savant insured. The best to me is absolutely. Unbelievable now Baba of this is one I. Give you that everybody's been asked me lately. What Matt's? Would you that you are hall of fame? I said No. I said I have. A lot of guys there, but you're always got us. Who Live be free on the outside that I played well enough that you know be fouls BP leave my team in the seventh game, the broadcast for twenty five years or thirty I ever go. Yeah, those those. But. I don't think is for everybody. So put that arrest now if I was going into the hall of Fame Wendy for me going and all of Eight, it will be me taking other guys in with me and that that would be my. That would be my whole thing I wouldn't. The guys who almost players who would be in there, so I only can look at myself like that I think you know they always see the players. And then there's always those players who help rape players become better at like as wiggles rape. The teas become better. In which is? In Baseball Spring Training in nineteen, seventy, seven found myself down in a little room, watching TV with. George the boomers Scott just come out of the game and we're watching. A championship semifinal game the. UNC, CHARLOTTE! Boys against, Marquette, and we all know what happened, and that's why I laid. IS ON CEDRIC MAXWELL I? Didn't see him in it year before, but the fact is. How often do you think about that game and a you know? What at the end? We got stolen from me Doc rivers got less so he. He reminds me about that all the time. Because he deployed to market later on every time he marquette we talking about those those thieves it so stolen from me. Is the he goes. Yeah, yeah, they deserve with that but. There's a lot of times. I will think back on what could have happened, but all my career has been unbelievable. We think about to be a guy who were Johnston North Carolina who got cut from the team as a junior came back as a junior made it as a senior and the UNC Charlotte, lead them to the foul four, and he comes the Boston. You plan on a bad team and then eventually becomes a MVP of the finals in into play well against. Lakers, that have your Jersey retired. I don't think that I could ask anything else. Maybe maybe the stars just allied the wrong way. That's avid, but why was supposed to win one of? Those days were you know can unfortunate? You know by now. I'm finally doing something about my weight and my hill. A waking went eighty eight bucks. 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It's mind blowing. was. What we call at UNC CHARLOTTE, the tar heels that's. That and that's the other day. It's your guy worthy. Cause as worthy I had him on. If we were both talking about this year, I remember you with the Tar Jose. He just kind of laughed and I told me about the game play in Nineteen, seventy six at USC CHARLOTTE, said he was in the stands watching this game, it was myself against sitting there university where rob perish as a senior so. Beaten up, so yeah, it's funny how you guys. You don't even know who were in the arena was one of those guys. That's great. What's your? What's your biggest regret? You've ever had. To Go I think the only regret I have now is that my relationship is this close to Larry? Bird is I would like. because they're over the years. You know people been saying I've been taking. Shots Larry when I said Kevin Garnett was the best all around ever the play with. All your kitchen Larry, or you did this now I love labours game. I want to championships with the guy and that would be the only regret is that I don't have the relationship rocky. Just call him up in, and and just you know just hollering. He was in the garden about two years ago. four game. Indiana planned whenever it was, and he was at the back, and out made a beeline back there and I was like Larry. Jober, I, do a man and we're back is shook his hand, and said hello, but I was still like the somehow just sit down and break bread a get that behind us, and that's what I said also about kindergartner air reality. I hope that those two guys whatever happens who the together we said, the best getting those to eat to Rome. I can crush all this right now, so those are things. That s the only regret I have. Why haven't you called Larry? Why? Why haven't you just picked up? Up the phone or or figured out a way to I mean we get older? That is a great idea. You know what I'm going to get that number from. I'M GONNA. Get that number from Bob. Reid eventually because I know Bob as as private number and I'M GONNA call Larry Joe for especially during this pandemic, I think that the way it is now. You want to reach out at least guy how you feel I don't WanNa. Leave this earth. They that Larry thinks that he was a bad guy I thought I was a bad guy. Is that we've wanted together? We bonded together. We want our first championship together. People are no. Were, there was the finals of the e-e-e-e-no. He was hours and people didn't know that in that particular game numb game number six in Houston. A, superstar set behind me in only play eight minutes in that game that was kept Makir because I was playing so well, so yup, that is one thing I'm going to reach out to. You are Ryan. Is Number get their to? Your enough. Happy to oblige. I got listen. I got dinner dinner on meeting either one of you wherever you can get Larry, Joe Byrd on the PODCAST I. Any dinner drinks, however, whatever it is, it's on me all right around Franck out so far and I know. Max You gotTA. Break brand and and make peace. I. Got To. Do that gotta gotTa. Break bread and make peace said. His family because here's a guy that I, loved as a player that went to Warwick and won multiple championships where Ed and those things can never be a so you know any water under the bridge I would have with that water under the bridge, so yeah, the gentleman that would be the case. Have you have you thought? TATUM would be as good as he's been and when I. When I talked earlier about the fact of the NBA starting back up, he's a guy that I think it's going to be very interesting to see how how he comes out of the gate. You said Yes, YOUNG LEGS! What I say is! Can he pick up where he left confidence wise Max because. Swagger that last month. He knew he was the best for him. The court every time where early on the season. That was not the case. Can he get that back? As go be addressed in the because they say he was, he was walking. He was walking on air. You know with those games you think about. When he played Los Angeles in La in that last one of those last gators, all my put on a show to the. La was double team and triple team. TATER in to get the ball out of hands. There was one scene in particular was Lebron and tatum. Goes a photo of those guys On the sideline about to check into the game answer scores Table and Lebron had looked at at the pitcher, said Elsie Right. There S A young line right there and it's like he was out on. He's symbol right now. Here's your price. Hold up to the world because you know he's the coming. He has that confidence and like you said there's a swagger of the guide when you walk the those. He's the best welcome player the world. You just go, you know what if I remember? Thinking about. Is like. You know what I think about the Beta. Damn, stay say. He's better than me and that to me with that was one of those things where. Crow was like all as as a layer of color eating, eating crow time with just unbelievable when I thought about what I was actually give by being a player, but laid off for me the biggest thing though was, I was able to take that eating. Embrace it. Allowed players don't WanNa race that they wanNA move away from that I. Understood that I was going to be good. And I was going to be great. As Larry Bird, even greater, so I sacrifice a lot of opposite game. To play on the deep is being and guard the toughest Guy Renite. That's for damn sure a he's he wound up. Being a guy had to take on Dr J., you know and without that. Nine eighty one win. Get as far as eighty four. It's no question about now maximum of a really significant. Commitment. was necessary with the team and he did was great. Max You still there. We lost your video. Yup smacks Max Yacht. Guess. We got I think it was populated out too so. He might pop back in. Let's give it a SEC. Sex So we can at least do the the proper the proper by if we can. See if jumps back in all right so I want to know and we. We got this recording without Max Right now Why did you think that there was some sort of of of I dunno beef is the right word, but but there was something between you and Max. I think he's exaggerating. I really do I I. I don't think so I. I don't know what he's GonNa Soak honestly I may have done something, said something that resonated than I didn't realize you know don't know, but we. This is going on all the years. He's been doing guests. I see him impressive before the game. We kid a Bob. Oh and I work with him many times out at comcast, and and he was always kidding me about revenue streams. That was his big thing, I I got this Gig I got that gateway man. You got red new streams. Gave them a ride back to t and I i. think is more for show. I really, I don't think I don't I feel no animosity toward. Ambassador. Characters to meet you of just. No, B S. Bob says it the way it is. When he was with the team. I always was thinking I really wanted to get the ultimate. Sit Douay. I knew how Brady was and I knew how to be live on. If there wasn't letting US privy to sure this, I'm talking about eighty, one, two, three, four five, you know, and then it didn't end well. Right okay didn't end well and. That was the same. You know inadequacy. He brings US Walton in. -actly, so you're not. You're not wrestling Max. Exit Service. The was that. Maybe it's about. How he left, got hurt and eighty five didn't get back right. He's the team, did he? Wasn't we have enough or well or whatever he is on that and that that was the source of? His. All I can tell you. I'm in Larry Bird's house in Indiana with his mother. Because I was out there doing the story in Eddie's brother, you know, and and and when and like like. And I'm on the phone with Larry. In. The South is Bob January of eighty five January, fiber or February. Maximum play for US anymore I'll never forget that exact route does exact for Beta. Max. Doesn't WANNA play for US anymore? That's the feeling that he had left with the team. They had made by actions. Not Words and is that why you think as he said there. There's still a rift between he and Larry. I see how thinking I know is that you know? He's traded and gone, and they have to have their greatest year ever the next year and it all and then I. We all know six eighty seven. Three more years of glory, you know without. and. It's I'm glad to hear say that. Though that's a very good, it's it you guys are getting young. That's. I'm very happy him say it means something to. Get that bench mended, and I'm really happy to hear that.

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America Is Burning

The Showtime Podcast with Lakers Legend Coop

1:04:25 hr | 2 months ago

America Is Burning

"It. Really Amazing, the guys I have right now with me. you know Bob Makhdoom a hall of Famer will in my best friends. Michael Cooper always hated him, but you know I have to get a Laker onto you to love me Max using. More stay I love you and I'd Cedric Maxwell with Celtics. We're going to reach some topics today and the first one. We're GONNA. Talk about is the state of affairs of this country coupon. Start what you how you feel right now. Especially living in La, because is different on the west coast, and it is here on the east coast well I. I think it's pretty much the same, have a population, maybe just a little bit bigger, but you know if these are. Times that take you back and I wasn't I, didn't I didn't live in the time back in the fifties and sixties? When things I mean forties and fifties with things were really really. Difficult for African Americans, but at this point in time. History has a tendency to repeat itself, and this is just unprecedented times. You know George. Floyd was unfortunate incident the start all this chaotic. And, it has just been wild and woolly out here I think the the bad seeds interrupt what the message is supposed to be about in the movement that they're having out here. The protesters that are protesting peacefully are it's the energy and a lot of young people you see out here in the movement. I think is not gonNA stop. Is unfortunate that the looters and the rioters, the people doing all the negative things, neither really putting a bad place on this, but I love that these young people are standing strong and they're standing out here in southern California. I'll go. Bob Mac do who lived it during the time in the sixties and Bob you and I from that same kind of where we live that you said we lived apartheid. Before are tied. Even talked about our tax Lebanon North Carolina with some of the things we we did or had to do. Oh, yeah, absolutely I mean it would. After I started getting consciousness, it was the the Greensboro citizens you know which probably started the whole movement again in the sixties, students from North Carolina an T. Went to wars, and they would not serve, and those guys stay at the counter a few. See some of the footage. On TV you see whites coming up porn milkshake in sodas over their head, but those brothers. Persevered stayed in there and they add the chain. Somebody policies I mean out I didn't go to school with whites until I was in eighth grade and even then. At after today's the school that was fifty, fifty white black. After today's ninety nine point, nine percent black, all the whites head the white right. They moved the hell out of there. The houses on the street for sale I mean. People look at me when I. Tell People that they look at me and said you show you when bone in the eighteen hundreds you. Know this was this is nineteen, sixty five and sixty six brothers. What we had to deal with all about you coming from another era to win, and we and we're GONNA get a lot of different things, but when people used to call you black in the days, you're offended because we went from being color black to african-american, we know through how many differences but you remember distinctly be a color, especially during those Santas Windows Water fountains were colored only and white way rooms, so these things really you in a in a way, you and I in a way we can find together. It be from the south. Bread. Before they even call US colored, they call this coon. They. We had names you know. We used to go downtown and little kids. White kids would be pointing at us like this. Coming from a zoo. Are! You kidding me and we used to go back communities because I communities were intact back at that time. We have court. We had businessmen lawyers doctors all living in the same community we were looking at these. People realize men in the panel eight to me, I mean we. We reacted strange to them, too, but we didn't call them names, but the sad thing and I've had some people I was talking about doing a book and I've had some people say Bob. You can't put our dirty laundry there like that the sad thing about the uh us in the seventh grade. Bread I don't know what they did this in Kingston. They used to put us in class, according to ask shade. Of Color. Are Light skinned people would be in the higher classes. All Dot stand in the back. This is the kind of six stuff that racism dust us. Back say something I think at this point in time. This is not a laughing matter and I. Think we laugh at it simply because we lived through it. So. We have a little bit of that obligation, but this is very serious. Serious matter that's going on Max when you go through. Burn much like Bah You know I can remember my with mine is nineteen. No surprise, nineteen, sixty sixty seven We were coming through way cross Georgia my parents and I and we go to. We stopped to get some gas. My father had been it Vietnam it, won't it? We get the gas and. We, my brother and I go to the bathroom. While the guidance es we go into the bathroom basically back. My. Mother wants to follow us in the gas. He we come out and my mother. Just go in. This is not no numbers you you. You can't go into your bathroom is out there in the grease pits and boy. My father got so pissed off. He was yelling. He said I almost died with this. Damn country and I can't even use damn bathroom that. Is. That's me was when you think about where we were in having having a guy like Jesse Helms who was about racist who was a signature of our state, and you go down to South Carolina where you couldn't even go to a beach without being Atlantic Beach I've said disturb the Atlantic beach is. Of, Myrtle beach and they had a part of the beach where only black people could go, and essentially they put a chain link fence out in the data water so far if you wanna around, you had to be Mark Spitz trying to get back out because you. It was that on the day award, and they just didn't want, and I was thinking as a child. What is the difference between the now water where the chain link fence is? It were wish women. It was crazy annual beach. My uncle warned us when we used to go to myrtle beach when we were children are and when we got older, make share. You got a full tank of gas. You gotTA. Stop and you had to stop for Gas Wingas was. Only bad thirty seventy dilip Yukon for five dollars. He gave one of these off road, because it wasn't no major highways going in these two lanes, he gave the guy a twenty dollar bill. Gas was five dollars over fifteen dollars, and the band said get Outta here. NIGGA wouldn't even give him his change. This is the kind of stuff that you had nobody to to. That You went to share. He told you the segment. The hell out of. Your. and. You know what I. I didn't have the. Fourteen, unfortunately didn't grow up at that time, but to listen to my grandmother and my grandfather and my oldest uncle them talk about what it was like down in the south. My family is from New Hebron Mississippi. And that's deep deep in in Mississippi, and to hear my grandmother talk about when she was ten eleven years old, picking cotton, and being told that they couldn't use his restroom and she used to say sometimes she was just have to go. Use the bathroom in the fields. That has to be very very damaging to people, but you know what we as black people are very strong, and we will persevere, and as we go through the ages, and now my family move out to California, Pasadena and meet growing up the most racist incident that I came across. was that the as a tenth grader? Going out to Sierra Madre was considered the West that was the white part of Pasadena and. And as long as we stay more on the west side, we were okay, but your monitors more toward the East so one day me and my friends. We were going out there. You know just driving and get out that way and withdrawing her bicycles. We get out that way and we get to Sierra by drake, which is the boundary lines and some police officers sauce, and they go what you boys doing out here? And we said so just gone up to the cease Sofres, said. You Ain't got no friends up here. NIGGA, turn around and go home that to me. Is when I realized what color I really was. and. How much value I had as far as myself. I was only valued to a certain. Stop. Light or streets are street limit for me, and that's when I really started recognizing and try and understand who I was as a black person. I'm say this and and you'll understand maybe a little bit more coop where you live, but. When we were, and I think this is one thing about. The fact that we have kind of moved out and spread out. The communities when you were black. Back in time during the sixties. You were disciplined at Tan as a child, but not just your parents. What everybody around? He is Whoa cursive will screaming. There were Paris it literally or your street they could be. Joe Asked if you did something and take you back to your Mama's house and they beat your ass again. Absolute, not I think the fact that we have gone away from that lack community that I remember you Bimbo Ark and all these other things. There was a certain amount of pride that when you went to those blacks. You dress or you or you know combing your hair or going places. You had to be a certain way as a child. And now Alistair kids have all these opportunities. These opportunities had to me in some ways has ruled them up. Math Minoa. Macadamia let you talk but I also think again. That's a great point, but you know what's missing and I know you, too can attest to this more so than I can. But from the time I was born until I left and went to college I went to church I was in church, every Sunday, wiping W on Wednesday in every day and I think that's where it is because maximum like you if I did something down the street system Smith saw it, says the Lewis Sought v Thomas saw and. And by the time I got home, and I got yelled at the whole way and somebody who saw matt and by time I got home. My grandmother knew what going on, so that's when you gotTa Spank it, so I really do believe that the religious aspect that we all grew up with is what's missing it. Today's Society because you know kids trying to get Detroit but not as much as we went, was part of our upbringing part of our our culture and part of who we were as an individual. Let me! Let me give you a perspect- my mother. She's deceased now I lost my mother. Two Thousand Sixteen. Ninety seven years old. Okay, she was a schoolteacher. For forty years. and. I usually hear how top she was. You know when integration started I remember. This came from her mouth. She started thinking all of this stuff. Change for blacks were integration started. because. She said when she started teaching. My mother was six foot one woman. If you acted up in her class, choose on Yankee, Oh nick out of the socket, and said us. Don't get home and get that call from her us. Get yoked again, but when integration came white parents. They didn't want no black teacher talks touching their kids white teacher. Black parents didn't want no white teacher. PUT NEW HANDS ON KID. The the me is kids got out of control. This was going down. It was totally done is is is like when you see black kids and they see white kids going crazy over here. This is like these people this ride the Nair. These. Innocent protests are sitting here, saying these agitators break open windows, and it also Nike's or Nice Samsung let me let me go on in here. They I mean they forget. Everything is start going in with agitators. Okay, this is the same stuff that was happening with integration. We lost our communities. We love businesses and I have talked about this several times. All Lee schools. UNC Charlotte North. Carolina Duke University Ucla if we been integrate them schools. The Balance Powell's would have been north. Carolina and t Winston Salem State we made those white schools powerful Alabama and I know you remember what what? was his name with the CAP. Bear Bryant said. When Southern Cal came down there in whip, there s thirty something none. He said I gotTa get me some of them on the. After he seeing per. Minute on our team. Eighty. And running, catch it to. The folks who and when Sam Bam? Cunningham came down, it was southern cal and he smoked at all team. Hey, he had to get some me Pat Rowley I coach. We talked about this. With Texas Western. Kentucky in Nineteen. Sixty six, I told PAT. I said Pat I. Know You you've coached me and everything you get, but hey. I was ready for big data led the bus. Action wait what does that first ball of pets? And Adolph rupp would his jobs. pissed off and stuff I mean. That started the whole Shebang with us to new. Mexico UNC CHARLOTTE. UNC I mean we've made them POW look at an t in Winston. Salem state and Howard and Hampton and alcohol. Look at all these tools now begging for money, they got to go. You know Winston Salem State Antique gotTa go to do the play against Siam Williamson. They give him eighty thousand dollars to get their ass. Beat on national beat by fifty points I don't Donald. You Donald he realized as Donald You guys in the locker room here with the heat, always talking about Miami, Florida State Florida I said back in the six, going May of Florida Cam and anti in Tennessee, and I and gramling need a beat. The brakes offer them team. Now Nail powerhouses, 'cause. All brothers are going there while you know these kids born up now. They want a dupe caps. No, Carolina and UCLA. They don't even know what they don't know the history they don't WanNa came before they just don't. Then that that is, that's a great quote. Because my mom in the going to north, Carolina search, she played ball was Sam. Jones was there, so you think about some of those great players that migrated over you. You talked about one Earl Monroe, who was probably one of the greatest. Nobody knew about you other than in those black in that those black colleges and I remember one of the first ones. I saw Charlie Scott go to north, Carolina and I was just like my mouth just dropped the black. There was a black kid that went from New York, and then there was Bob Mac do after that and I became a huge Carolina Fan because they were played South Carolina University. And they were all white steel, so you just had this whole thing that you saw. And as you said the whole structure of college basketball, as chains, because of the migration of all these great black players, going or or players of color I should say that players of color going to these schools that at one time wouldn't allow them to come into. Their front door wouldn't even allow them what. They could do is be made at North Carolina Clean Up. You were a student. Disgrace. and. That's why I think that's why I think now with our platform that we have as a sports figures of color. Has An opportunity to speak loudly for the people that we've lost enjoyed. Floyd Trayvon Martin, it Jefferson Ron Taylor. That's why I think today's movement that we're going through as older. African American sports athlete are platforms a lot bigger than say the average. African American citizen where. Is it? I mean How can we make a better statement for our young people coming up so that they can't realize what we're going through and the movement that we're going through. Don't take us to the next level. Bob. macky said this in the fact that they need to go back and learn their history. Where we'd say about Boston as great as they were with Bill Russell was year. They invited Bill Russell down to to a place in either house ready. He came back and somebody. broken this house and didn't take anything, but took the shit in his bay. That is, that's the history that you have to go back and learn the history that you'd think about with Bill Russell and those championship Celtics were playing during that time there were restaurants that they could not go in and eat Bob. cousy said that he said look as one thing. He literally almost broken that years. When you start talking about Bill Russell in his black teammates, saying I should have done more as a as a white person because you know my teammates one even allow that come in and. I mean we play a game? And then we have to go dip restaurants that that to me is like the most out outlandish name that you think about because you all teammates, but then you can't go eat the cabin. You get to a restaurant in the. If you do one thing I, would give a kid something that was scared the shit out of a damn history book. Let. Let him go back and look at history book and read it and yet the history of what has gone on before him to make him to to make him feel comfortable when he could do. Shindo and go go to a park or go walk out with a white bureau and nobody saying if they during the sixties when Bob Mac the doing that lived in North Carolina. That was their sentence man. You Ain't you look at the white woman. You didn't do anything that was like the only white woman. With rocky a Welsh and she was not be that. Kinda liked her Max. Talk joining talk about white woman. We couldn't even talk the high. Yellow blacks. Mimics to us even a high yellow that then start until we start going to school in the seventies them. How yellows didn't even WanNA talk to us. What let me let me go back because I don't want him to see this and see Adam correct history. After Charlie Scott it was Bill Chamberlain Bill came from New York too, and then it was me I was the first local. North Carolina play out could break and tell you this. They just didn't have the coaches really didn't have respect for us they they used to go to DC and Philadelphia New York. We get their players, but we're get on that another time, but talking about you know, look what the NFL owners did the. Cabinet, they salads. If you said we've got a platform, he had a platform meal. I wonder what these NFL owners are thinking about him. Now he took a knee and people turned into something else disrespectful your man up top talking about get. Those son of a bitches fired him son of a bitches. I'm just wondering when they started NFL season. What they going to do now with this national anthem I think you're gonNA. See Brothers, full force taken a knee. And what are these people going to say? What are they going to say? They going to silence all his brothers? You Know I. Mean I think they're going to take a stand or they should take. A stand isn't business so Roenick that we talked about taking the need? And then you look at Miss Applaud. The? I end because of it. I think that is. That's the irony of it that we that that essentially Donald. Trump ran on that platform. Yeah it, Oh, somebody, taking a knee or not taking a knee now there's as as you like to do the Makhdoom thing right now. Put My fist. A. Power side and I'm GONNA go like you're like war would do like Malcolm X. where they say about that chickens. Come home the roots yeah. Our young people are taking a bold step forward and I think one of the things that bothers me and I think this quarantine has really helped me. As far as the father raised the my fourteen year old son. Fifteen year old son is that they spent so much time on them. Two KS, and on the Internet and this and that back for the last month my son has to come and watch the news with me. Thirty minutes. Understands, what's going on in today's world, because what things are being voted on and voted out and our president during the things that he's doing. It affects us a senior citizen, but it's going to be importantly is going to infect him when he thirty five forty years. Up Coupon issue just how does it? Your House wrote because you have a different household a different, make your wife in you. You took come from two different play. How does that affect you? You're looking at that kind of stuff and your you're. Well I I think we live by the standards of moral of what is right is right, and what's wrong is wrong. It doesn't matter what color you are, and I think that's the most important thing and you know. My wife has values from Sweden and I. Definitely have my values, but we tried to meet in the middle and just understand where our world is heading and how we have to raise our son together. Together so it has to be by the morals again going back to the Bible. The Ten commandments are big to me. You know people forgot about. Though you'll ask some kids commandment, they couldn't connect you. One or two of you know, but my son can name all of them so I think that's the most important thing is what should teach your kids at home, but right now and this is important for us right? Right now before all these people that have lost their lives on all the way back to emit. Tillis it's important that you understand what's going on around you and you must become politically savvy and get involved when you turn eighteen to get out there and votes I used to think that my vote doesn't matter. Until I wouldn't voted and Barack Obama I like president became president. That's when I really took a big sigh. Sigh of of crowdedness in me because you know what my one little vote, it does matter I. Think we gotTa Get our young us today and I think they are standing up and making this happen with this movement. Going on this protesting is that they understand now that you one voice, many voices make one voice. Not One voice can make a turn it into change or let me let me let me say this. You know we we talking to a lot of friends now doing this pandemic during the riots and stuff. I've got. Four friends. To Open my ex NBA players. I've talked to them. Just what you talking about coop about. You gotta get young people. We gotta get older people, too. They are saying and. I? I don't like trump I. don't like Biden nothing going to change. Ain't nothing you can say that can change. My mind is say Bob. Nothing is GonNa Change. Why would I waste my time? Voting and I try to tell them I said look. Don't be selfish is for your kids sake. I said they going to probably lose healthcare. They're gonNA. Lose you know all you getting social security now, said the Republican China. Take No, the few things I know intellectual like Michael. dyson I can't explain all this stuff, but I just said the simple ascend. Look here, let me put it in supple breeze Berle terms. I said you got to. Animals got a German shepherd and you got a shot. If you'll get bit by German shepherd, you might survive if you get bit by sharp is. You got. It's the lesser of two evils. But. The level of two evils. One is in if you've got a chance of even open US change policies. Do you know the other guy? He Ain't change in nothing he. He's GonNa Bust you upside here. Candidate of law and order what does that or it's for Mac listen. This is what I think when when you think about when I, think about voting and. Some people may stay. No, you're not gonNA. Change anything. It's like the two thousand sixteen. They didn't like Hillary. They didn't like trump. So when you don't vote, you have no voice. You can't say so. What's going on in the world? But for me? Boating is important because our forefathers. Martin Luther King's while these people died so that we have the opportunity right vote and when you don't vote. I think that's a you're showing disgrace to them. Because of you're saying what they went for, and then laying allies down the line. It didn't matter to anything, and that is my biggest purpose for Bolton because all these people that come before. We owe it to them to get out there and lakes the front rights. Before we were we some of us even born, they stood for our rights. And now we have to stand for them even though that they're dead. They will. You're you're? You're right in sense that in? Coupon not. Dropping you out of this because me, Bob were in DR allowing. That they used to have a rule that you had to be able to read the preamble to the Constitution. A black person had to be read that my grandfather who my great grandfather who couldn't read couldn't really right use rather x wasn't able to vote. You could because he didn't know how to re where somebody could have walked up and take him into the BOO and said. Vote for him. They used to make sure that people weren't going to vote. So who you're so right when it comes to. You are doing your ancestors that people before you a disservice. We don't go out and vote for things that they died. The people on the line that people march four people in the coal, Marlou. Aquino took a took a bullet in Dad, and you know you think about all the people gathered fascinated. This is what it's about and again. We could do one thing for child in Wickham maker down video game about history. That's what we need to do. This did you know Martin Luther Chain? You get points for that or you know Carla duty. Who would give a damn about no call, do the. Policy Call Young Day of mind. That's what I want somebody intellectually stimulating something, or you see these shows on in our call. No brain shows you know. Housewives of Atlanta reaches of our New Orleans I. Eat that crap, because does it it? We don't learn anything from. The call of duty for these kids, and all of us to get out and vote. That's our duty right there. Go ahead and do not on. He's. He's right I. Mean I I. See my boy. Home call of duty. Man is legs. Man is like history we had we had the Mutasa history. I'm so appreciative of. What basketball has done to me? I've learned so much with my travel this stuff because. It's so much propaganda out here on TV man like last night. When I'm at the dinner table, we've got big. Seventy five inch I'm usually going back and forth between MSNBC AND CNN and I said. Let me see what Fox's Talk Oh. Don't listen. Any. Go ahead, go ahead. Let me let me see Fox's top. Turn of Fox network they talking exact opposite they had people like. Yes, he's doing the right thing calling the military, the militia and stuff and I'm like damn CNN and MSNBC game talking like that. WHO's in the army? He said Bob. They can't bring the militia in here. I was in Fort, Bragg. These guys are natural born killers. Bringing in guys in they going to kill the niggers. I'm telling you if it weren't all these white people out here allies, they'd have been shooting these brothers. He's protesters already I. I voted for. You back to the fifties and sixties where they were with the hosepipe. And German shepherd dogs on because people are trying to stand in line and stand up for what they believe in well. This is what we should say as a group and this is what that truly believe in. Is that we need to tell the people. Or the the the the Hulu I'll say who are out there still in shit at this time. You are. That the message, because now you are giving. You. An opportunity to talk about. some damn shoes stolen, not a man's light race men. And? They told you I told you so, and that's what it does it. We're GONNA educate our people our kids. We stated look of peaceful. And that's what Martin Luther King was about. He's about peace and he did it in a way. They here's one thing. I believe in and I won't vote. You guys understand this or something. I just read the other day and they said you lied. The seven is called a blackout and what they wanted people to do on July several people. Color is not the span one dollars, and what that would do in the guy and this all calculated up. You said it will come up to ten. Dollars so how you change things you change things sometimes economically how they do the busing boycott. When the busters were down there and they would let rules the parks on. How did they do that? Eight year them in the wallet. They start getting on the bus. Company was losing money. How do you get people's manners? Sometimes? You hit him in the Wallace, so there's a thing that's called the blackout on. July the several producer that we need promote as people color, so we can get out there, so everybody understands how you WanNa make, and that's how people's eyes open up when people ask me about Donald Trump when the stock market went down. He he said all this stuff about you know minorities, women, and all this. No one's starbucks become that wobble. Would get drunk out we we all want, but as long as they will make. Money is a whole number thing that mighty dollar or the OJ say, the wretch that mighty dollar with a man is something else so their president's tall. Yeah, a red I'm Richard I'd got that message I. Know about the blackout. Thank you for repeat. This About. Okay, I understand what both of saying about the blackout, but is it time to be quiet now? Don't you think we we on a role that we gotta keep talking saying that? James Brown's Saiki talking to saying now. Oh No, no, you you are! You are talking to. You're talking when you don't spend money you're talking. If you go into that situation. You don't spend the dollar and that's thor losing money that those are words they resonate as we say down retirement. Money talks bullshit walks. That's what you talked about yet. We can still talk up to that time Cooper. I believe we do it, and you know I. I think that because we're talking I. think is Golden, but when we start talking about the economic power of things in this world as when you're going to make a real change. We you have people. Who understand the power of a dollar and how they use it, and that's why again I am so disappointed in my brothers and sometimes, let's say this way to maybe. Why people who gone out and lewd. Say Right now. Maybe it was the clan which has gone in and made. Some these things so they're trying to. You know just. As trump is done the whole time muddy up the day war of where people confuse. Yep. Mamadou? Mac Must Be. Says do as bathroom ruin. Yeah I mean coop. This is just one of those things again where I look at the world is counter really different especially with Bob's wipers from Italy right so she's Italian. Your wife is from Sweden. You're talking about you as incumbent something that. The world needs to. You're already right now. A try in you're making you make you that whole sacrifice sacrificer, making it work together whereas. Allowing people right now they should go their separate ways in, and it's just not now not at all. I think right now is the time for us to just to come together, and that's why I keep talking about this. The protesters out here in California as well as all around the country, these young people and people in general are gone out there and they're making a statement, and I don't think it's going to stop and the funny part about all of this Max is that. Things happen before reason and I think. Had this not happened along with the Quarantine Code Nineteen. It's a good chance that the president has there now might be reelected. But I think now I think the movement. That's going on I think people are ready for the change and their understanding how to make change that you gotta be out there and you have to beat in it. Will the thing you saying has to be if you're out there protesting now? and. You don't vote. Then you ain't this year. Exactly everything you've done with not everything you. That wasn't number the show. You have to get out in exercising and I said this the other day I think that. No offense off I can't breathe. I understand where that comes from, but what I think it should be chanting right now. We will vote. We will vote, and that is going to resonate so much more to the politicians out here in the world to go to the White House. All these people are being a voting block, but because they're not voting block. People people are just grow Masiello, what with the current administration, trying to suppress bail in voters? That's what he's GonNa. Do He's GonNa? Make people get out there and vote, and you know what I did for President Obama owners there as up at four o'clock in the morning, and the posing open until seven, but I was standing in line with about six hundred other people. Four o'clock can see me because I was so dark, so I had flat line. They know that that space was being occupied. I was out there voting I. think that's what happens. People are going to stand up and they're gonNA. Get out there, and however they do it. Rains shine snow whatever they're going to be out there and we. Do like this, did you? Ever think. In your lifetime that first of all you have a black Christmas but then the backlash rum him. Being the president has been just so polar opposite. Did you ever think that I did you ever think you'd have a black I? What what happened after that thought your. Here's my allergies. Back in the Sixties and Seventies Bhai Grandmother bless our soldiers. Pass away. She always. She would tell me that she would say. Michael WE GONNA. Have a black president one day, but it won't be in your lifetime. and. I kept saying grandma. Now you know and you know what? God Willing and he let me see that and the thing that I'm looking forward to. Max is I can't wait. And she said this to. She says your kids. She said don't be a woman for president, but your kids may not see. I could see that sooner than later to and You know out very aren't and proud to be part. Of Brock Obama the president. That's what keeps me going today. Is that never really was in politics Max I think as we get older, and you run around with you? We got more time than sitting at home. Wise TV, so you have to get into that, but you know what things are GonNa Happen I was glad to see that bright president, but I think we're GONNA. Have a woman president very very very well. How did you how you feel now about the backlash because everything that Obama did? Donald Trump essentially try to erase well if It would help. It was something good. It didn't make anything that Obama it. He tried to raise it in the psych. amsoil like a mirror image like just the opposite, but actually I look at it like this. When someone does something great and people come along behind are either jealous or envious. Race that hey those. That's right, but you know what we're going to brush ourselves off for now. Grown, US. How does he can't erase everything you Kayla race, everything and you know what most stuff he's doing this by executive action. Anyway. So now the president coming in can change that lamented so that's the big thing about it. How do you feel about the guy behind you right now? Greenwood these said about. The social social atmosphere because Kareem is goes back in the sixties, 'cause I remember in protesting with the Bill Russell and he was with the changing room at Eileen updated. How do you feel about that? This is this is your connected to the history that is like walkers. This was the do right there and you know what Max that's what I love about being around cab cat was so intellectually not knowledgeable about things, and and you know I ask him talk to him about those specific moments in time because you know. What as we said before you relive history and Mac we're talking about. About cap now him being in your sixty, is that this to hear him talk and hear his knowledge, and hear his wisdom because he experienced it again. It's something to see it, but he actually went through it, and to those big time sports legends at that time going for being in Malcolm X. being part of that whole group that they were going through in the sixties His voice resonates a lot to me. You think the thing about this. He was lew alcindor. This is what it. It will be back knew him as the beginning Luella. Biglou, that's why we new with of Scout who. Live. In changed. Who, who is he and we had to learn how to pronounce them me? And he and he said I'm a marine stuff. He said when he was in school. Lot Of these southern Schools Kentucky all them. He said in no way. I'm going south of the Mason. Dixie line because he had hurt stores from his parents about. Not being able to eat in restaurants and being able to go to the movie, theaters and stuff, so he headed out West whereas a little bit more liberal. That's why me and Brad talked. Junkie Kook because you. Have many of the life yet bra. You don't know what it is, let's. Listen I'm a black man, my sodas and strong, I take the baby. I haven't lived that, but you know what I appreciate, respect and understand that and hear your knowledge, and that's the fun part about having friends such as yourself and other people at in my license that I get to hear those so now that I'm kind of experiencing it now. Not to the degree that you guys have I know how beverages student how to approach things up teaching my son how to approach them and you know it's unfortunate that we have to talk to our kids. About being out in the world, and if the the law enforcement stops you. That you have to. As African, American, that other racist don't have to. Do you know what that's unfortunate, but it's our job. Pass that on to our kids I. Tell people tell my kids. I'll talk to them and even Bob I got picked up. Not picked up. I got a ticket in North Carolina about three years ago. Going to this town cost close to Smithfield. At where Smithfield had a side back during the seventies, they didn't get rid of the sign until nineteen, seventy seven, and there was a said home of the Ku Ku Klux Klan Lubbock, or legal, and I got I got a ticket late at night, and the first thing I do like I tell my kids. When that police officer was walking up to my car or white people own experiences as he's walking up to my car, I am yelling out. I am putting my hey. Ans- outside the window so. Them on purpose there. There's no way. Verge. And, that's what I've done my bores. My boys are saying thing, and that's the thing that. People. People who are black or people will color. That's what we have to tell like. He isn't and I think that's one of the things that I heard the Gal. Sportscenter say it today, which was fascinating to me. He was one of the one of the white anchors who talking to a black woman, he said. He said I used to say I. Don't see color. He said that was wrong. He said you always see color. When you go someplace, you might not. You might not identify you. Might not you know say it's there, but color will always right now while we around will always be district. Well I got frozen out when you guys were talking, but I I kind of you know you talk and coop. Something about we gotta voices got to be out there. I WANNA say. The symbol of copper nick was powerful, and they turned it into something else. You know this is what they do to us. You know and you. You gotTA figure this. It's been gone on bread every since we've been alive. They going to turn it into something else sooner or later, this had devious. This stuff is you know they're going to get off the whole Shebang a what this whole thing was about. You know George Floyd. Given kill. They don turn it into something else in get our minds. Get US unfocused not on this stuff I'm hoping they can do it I. Know I. Know why the three of us out there. We've with sixty plus. We have not forgotten about her own a virus. Does a lot of walking parole rows will kick your heirs. Yeah, sixty eight what you said about. Doing it. I lost I lost a cousin two weeks ago in New York. WE'RE GONNA virus forty years old and he lost his girlfriend. Two weeks before she was a nurse. In New York is everything, live for, but I found out from his father. He was on a flight coming from London okay. The flight was supposed to go to London to Kennedy. They diverted the flight from Kennedy to Quantico. Quantico out of eighty. Some people on board sixty. Two of them tested positive. Wow, law of nineteen. He was one of them. They kept saying from China from chat. No stuff came from Europe. It Matters Wuhan, but this stuff came from Europe to at they didn't say nothing about the Europeans coming in. They stopped the yellow man coming in, but they white Europeans coming in which brought stuff all over the place. Okay, but the main thing I was gonna say is. We can't let them change our focus on what it is I hope these brothers when they start the season. If it goes back and I know what they're gonNA, run into. They run into Hannity, running his mouth and box, and they. You know your boy up at the top timeout, fiery son, and this is all gonna come back again, and they don't get what the original thing was about the company and this young Bob. Bob As you like to say, keep your eyes on the proud. As, that was one of the things they used to tell us back in school in there was just all black school. Keep your eye on the press in that means don't the. Attention wrote to something else that People WanNa brainwash you about this issue is a major issue, and it's gone back to the sixties. The fifties the thirties will black people were at Lance when they grabbed a young black kid outta his baby, because he was playing, were little, white girl kissed on the cheek, and they came to his house. In Lynch this little boy is. Seven years old grabbed the leads there because he kissed a whiter it a little white girl in that to me. That's why we have to keep our eyes exactly where they're supposed to be on the election about politics about our about money about finding all these things we have to keep our eyes or those things. Are. We definitely we definitely got to do it but bread. You know how hard it is, we we. We, we are all over the place. You know what I'm saying we. We're not one we're not like. An ant form where everybody's thinking the same, you know, we got people over here over there. You know they were. They were connell. They were storm Thurman. Thomas John Berman. The most segregated George Wallace guy you ever WanNa see an this do was jammies made had a black door. You know I mean. Did you read about that coup? Mash I a black daughter, and he like George Wallace standing in the doorway. Tom Segregation for ever get these niggers. Outta here in. You Got I. Hate saying it I hang. You got a black door you know. It goes back to Brad. Jett said we got to keep our eye on the prize and all that other stuff that fluffing glitter and glamour, and that's what we have to keep. Our young people's thinking November two thirds. GonNa come real quick. Be Distractions with the The protest and all that are good things, and the movement is there and people are fired up about it, but we got to keep that fire stoked until November third and go out and make a difference because. If you make change and again we black people A. we don't always go through. Our best trouble the rest of my life. It's always a struggle. What we try to do is make the struggle a little less. But it's like. Let me ask you this. We're talking now on this podcast. Are we reaching as many people as Hannity on Fox? Are we reaching as many people as the head guy out there doing his, you know his corona virus press conferences every day I. mean people are seeing this stuff every day, but I thought. That we have to do. What we still want you start with one. That's how that's how movement starts. Worrying about the masses and didn't do them all at once out, you start with one word of Mouth Matt out as that's how the foundation of stuff start in you build it brick by brick. It's just like that make. This basketball tournament you a basketball term. You didn't come out being basketball player. You had to put in the work. In one day you know day you will rebound next day am I. GotTa Jump Shot Next thing I did this in. This is a big collection of things which come in the way, so no, we're not going to reach the masses. But eventually was going to happen is one person's going to hear this and it's going to affect. The child like I said that will allow us say you want to scare Kid Gamma Dan Book. Gamma Dan book the history they have their. He will probably pass out. So those are the things that we have to do as older people color. Then we've been there done. We're has goop or passive stuff now that you said like Iran mobile's gave to us, it remains. They gave us we gotta give that same information to our kids and try to inform them in a way, but daughter and and God bless a I would kill. Some heard her say one the with craziest most asinine things. Obama was in office. She said the main, so that was was. Was Obama ever done for black people I? Would you say? She has her doctorate and I just went off on and on, and they get frustrated at hung up, not called her back I said. Let me ask you some. Don't you have obamacare? She like yeah, do I have to pay the prairies I said welcome to the real world. That's that's what happened, so you? You've got to understand black people and we're GONNA probably count it close, but is what I believe black people for the longest time. have been like craps. With a crab gets algebra barrel about y'all barrel. Another crab or grab him pulling back down instead of letting net one crab reach back. And cool people back up. That's what we have to do is not be so jealous and issues. We are one week. We are people we are raised. That has been through so much. We were in Africa. We were the days with all things we've done A. we have to learn to start helping each other and we don't do that all this talk that we do right now. That's just bullshit. I must say this and Mac you says our platform is not as big as Hannity or the mother people, but we have a platform and I do believe our voices being heard by just a little bit, but again word of mouth is the best thing that happened people hearing this on. They'll hear. It's another trooper. Set You free baby all the time. A talking about bread. Talking about you appears to Joe. Daughter hours just pissed recently. My forty seven year old son because we weren't talking on the phone would come back and forth, and he made a statement. We are I rarely get into political stuff with him. Rarely do because you know your kids are different. Relevant political stuff, but he said something it. Started the conversation going south? He said well when my son's get out there. Maybe they won't recognize them. He's married to a Russian girl. He's got to Mulatto Boys. I'm like what the Fuck Are you? What you talking about. I know the. Why they lie. But you gotTa tint brother you. Walk out of that House. Do. What they better not speak no damn rushing with both. A fluent in Russian a burden. Speak no Russian that they run into Fort. Bragg motherfuckers it's going to be. How do you also Migo? That's. What I care, my sir. To they look at you as a man of color. They'll see why and you might have a fifty percent you whatever percentage you have, but they're looking at you as a black man in America absolutely absolutely absolutely don't forget that man. I mean I mean. It's like I had to do the Talian paying to. That to to Matt. Or this or this? Dude is in Italy to. Some cool. I. Yours, buddy your of your. Up Your. Absolutely man I I don't have. Bread I don't know if this happening I've had a gun pulled on me and a friend. When we were young, sitting on the curb pulled a gun on us man. They thought we were you know had heard about somebody's house gotten Robin, we meet. We just sitting on the corner and. pull a gun on us. Okay and Sam you member saying right breath militants. Sam reminded me the other day we will going with 'em. Mail was living out thereby Guilford College. We were going to see a male and four police. Cars Cool. Owners stopped had their hands on guns where you're going on before. We say we going M. L.. Cars how a! You know him. We used to play ball with him. Took my license plate. My license. Say this when I was a buffalo, you headboard and went to Carolina I said yes, sir, they took Sam's. Sam Rose when you father sergeant degrees were police. Yes, sir. Saying, we'll take you to a mail house. He wrote US Out There West. Greensboro got us to emeals house emails out in the yard. He spending imail still don't believe email. You know these boys. And I'll say yeah, they they could let. This happen to US who? You know you talking about we here. Let me tell you something. We Allot. Could you and your sixties right coat? Yup read about sixty six. I'm sixty five. I'm sixty eight we. ARE ON TV this. A this doctor. After all the Shit we go through, he's basically stain is I can't even explain it, but all the shit we go through on a constant basis. We're lucky we alive. You know we have high blood pressure. This is. That, we have to deal with that. We have to put on the backburner every day of our lives. They they don't have to do that. That's why. That's. Already lot of people getting it sixty two. I got mad at sixty six. Because, I'd read in the paper where the average black man I li- span is sixty eight years I'm right there at our lifespan limit. A man when I went to the social, security office and I asked one of our scouts said he didn't get his the seventy. I asked the black lady behind. There said because I knew I was still working with the heat making decent money. I said she I worked seventy. I thought I was looking at Matombo behind. Maybe. Saying no, no, no, no, no! Do that. To got past the sixty two line I would take. Ask. Again humble on me. Do? The. Last. Thing for me is We lost another great one and West on sale. West was a player man. That I I live grown up in the sixties. Platelet Baltimore probably one of the best and truest. Undersized player to play a big role, but the best power forward in the game today I know you guys know him a little bit better. You WanNa. Talk a little bit about him well. I'm gonNA tell you muster. Not Bob knows a little bit better, but I got hit with the hardest pick ever in my life. Running into the West on sale. Not You remember that story remember about Wes unseld was I was one of the first guys in the NBA that was a salary cap hit my last year in Houston Houston was trying to get built pitch so built bitch was he brought me in from the clippers, so they'll everybody he sent me to wash and West on sale was the head coach. Wes was whatever was, but he was just brutal me. He wanted me to quit. Dude either guarantee contrary do I quit. He was running me all that stuff so far on the last day or Kim train. It comes in 'cause course west wants to see. I Walk Yeah. That's what West Golf because is, said well of course. We had the bachelor. And I'd get up out of my chair. I'm getting up our Easter. No, no, no, let me explain it to you as the no, no, let me explain something to you. I got two years. Look down contract. Only thing you need to know for me is my damn address hollyoaks. Mustard with with is i. mean I went over to. The Basketball Without Borders we we've met Nelson Mandela. All of us took pictures with Nelson. Mandela but me and West to talk because I used I used to tear. West adds up. You know he's. Used to hate you because when you used to shoot your shot used a slap me every time in my face. I had wondering jump starts. You know but. He was talking about all this stuff. They doing now combines all these tests psychological tests. He said Bob if data had me in today's game, I couldn't go around them. Combs and ten seconds I had no thirty five minutes vertical. They would cut my ass but all. Did, first year was made rookie, year and MVP. And were had one of the nicest Afro too. Absolutely there you go there, you go. Well, you know with that. I think we're GONNA Finish Yaman rate out us all together again. PODCASTS world. You know we're. We're just trying to give you information about the current state of affairs how we feel if you were offended by anything that we say. As we say, screw you the right. That's what we said under the day, but we're just trying to give you information. You know I really want to say but. We were just trying to give me information that we think that you could use. We're trying to tell you about the history of the game and we're trying to tell you a little bit about history of black people so with that guys will go. Safe.

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Urban Meyer on Redskins' Culture

The Kevin Sheehan Show

51:03 min | 3 months ago

Urban Meyer on Redskins' Culture

"You want it you need it. It's what everyone's talking about the Kevin Sheehan show. Now here's Kevin just me today Sorry about yesterday show. It was long and it was all over the place and I didn't even get to the topic that I really wanted to get to. Which was you know? All of the Adam Schiff transcripts stuff that the House intelligence committee finally had to release a few days ago. That would have sent Tommy over the edge. I mean Adam shifts boy for the last three years But Anyway I. We didn't even touch that and we. We probably won't touch tomorrow either. I I'll give you fair warning. That will will leave you without any Virus talk or political talk In the next shared episode of this podcast between the two of US It's not going to be a long show today but I did want to start with these urban. Meyer comments about Dwayne Haskins Urban Meyer was on a podcast. The Daniel Jeremiah Bucky Brooks podcast called move the sticks now Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks are both. Nfl Network is. I actually think they both do an excellent job. Daniel Jeremiah has actually been rumored to have been in the hunt for. Nfl General Manager Job in the last few years you know one of those media guys that people think could be an NFL general manager. Bucky Brooks does a great job. I think in his analysis of the game. I've actually tried to get him on the podcast and the show recently And it just never seems to work out for some reason but anyway they do a good really good job and they had urban. Meyer on their podcast. Yesterday and Urban Meyer said some things that he had not said to Zabreb. He was on with Zak on our radio station last week. that he didn't really say. I don't think To J. P. Finley not in the same way If you miss this This was part of the conversation. He got very He became sort of protective and defensive. When it came to Duane Haskins for season in Washington. He felt compelled to really defend his former quarterback. And I'll read through this stuff but let me just start with. I don't really think Dwayne Haskins performance last year needs to be defended. I think he improved a thought. He cut better. I think you know considering all of the circumstances when he finally got the opportunity to start. And we've been through this many times before I was encouraged And I know not. Everybody was so maybe. He's defending dwayne. Haskins against the Haskins critics of that first year. But what he really did is he took some shots at the organization. I'll read through some of these quotes so in talking about the organization that drafted him the Redskins he said. So it's the quarterbacks fault quote never mind the fact that their coach got fired that the place is a mess. There's this going on. There's this going on. There's that going on a lot of stuff. I heard from behind the scenes because once again I have several players there yet. It's dwayne fault. And by the way he's got players they're right Terry maclaurin Alex Smith in the organization He's close to Alex Smith but there was more than just that he said quote. I hate to be so simplistic on this but you better surround him with some really good players the NFL is amazing to me. They draft a quarterback. They put him on a very bad team. And there are a lot of culture issues which I don't want to start throwing stones but I do know I talked to my guy. I talked to a lot of these players. So it's the quarterbacks fault now that their coach got fired after week five. They were in complete disarray. It's the quarterbacks fault now I wish college was that easy for some reason. It's not the quarterbacks fault. It's the coach's fault to me. It's about culture and leadership you want Dwayne to be a great player. Surround him with really great players surround him with a really elite culture Urban Meyer went on to say that. Washington's failures in organization is evidenced by its lack of success in acquiring talent via the draft over the years and he said quote. Why does that? Why do the New England patriots their teams in the NFL that have far greater players in the Patriots? Have you know they draft ahead of the Patriots every year so on paper there are teams that had been drafting ahead of the Patriots for fifteen years yet? They can't beat them. Why what because they have bad players No there's something else there. It's called an elite culture elite leadership and then a reference back to the redskins. They don't have that. There's something wrong with the organization you want Dwayne to be great. Put a lot of greatness around him. That's the one common denominator all great quarterbacks they have great players around them closed quote. So this was urban. Meyer you know ripping the redskins organizationally in sort of defense of Dwayne haskins again. I would start with. I don't really think he needs to defend join haskins first year. I don't We all have different opinions about Haskins and I understand some of you have the opinion that he wasn't very good I have a different opinion. I thought that he was you know. Overall It was very encouraging. And it's it started. You know obviously inconsistently but it got better and the last game and a half that he played. He was outstanding outstanding. Those last that last game full game against Philadelphia. And the last half game against the giants. He essentially in six quarters. You know threw for three hundred ninety four yards four touchdowns no interceptions in completed about seventy five percent of his his passes. Yeah I seventy four percent of his passes yeah. I think that that's a a significant improvement to end that season that way so I don't really think that urban Meyer really needed to defend him in that way but it's his former player and you know I think there is definitely some recognition here right from Urban Meyer. That at least the last year's redskins organization was a hot mess. Now he's not revealing anything to US K. We know that some let me rephrase ninety five percent of US understand how bad this organization's been how awful the culture's been how a M- non-conducive it's been to winning and two young players with talent you know it's just not been great and I think that Urban Meyer was doing a couple of things here? I think that he was absolutely ripping the Organization for last year. And that may be directed more towards Bruce. But you know it's strange because just last week. The night that the schedule was released. Urban Meyer was part of the redskins. You know Revealing of their own schedule on their website they had urban Meyer and Matthew mcconaughey and I think be Mitch and Fred smoot or part of the festivities. Urban Meyer has a relationship with Dan Snyder. You know he sat in his box during that Eagle game last year when he was at the Army Navy game and then came over. You know that Sunday morning to in that. Remember all the rumors that were flying around that Sunday morning. That all is going to be the next coach in that caused That prompted Todd. Mcshay to to say the following week urban. Meyer's a friend of mine. I'm paraphrasing at this point. Urban Meyer's a friend of mine. I will urge him that there are thirty two. Nfl organizations and there are thirty one of them that are better then the Redskins But you know to just say that. Urban Meyer was criticizing the organization that dwayne played in in his first year based on the circumstances last year. Which would include Bruce Allin? Being in the in the mix Would be to sort of ignore one of the last wines in this In this transcript of the podcast that he was on with the two. Nfl Network is Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks because he says in talking about the Patriots in essentially saying the Patriots have elite culture elite leadership. He then says and this is not past tense. They don't have that referring to the redskins. There's something wrong with the organization. You want Dwayne to be great. Put a Lotta greatness around him. That's the one common denominator of all great quarterbacks. They have great players around them by the way as a quick aside. You know he's wrong about that too you know. He's not totally right about. That is probably a better way to describe it. The common denominator of all great quarterbacks is not that they've got great players around him. That's not the common denominator the common denominator of all championship quarterbacks. If he said it that way it would be closer to being true. But even that wouldn't be true. Aaron Rodgers has not had the greatest of players around him but he is a great quarterback one of the great quarterbacks of all time and what he's done is he has been one of those very few examples of in elite quarterback that elevates everybody around him and by Extension Elevates in organization. I don't think Twain is that I don't I think Dwayne is in that group of quarterbacks or winning quarterbacks that aren't great or elite they've got great players around him. I mentioned this earlier this morning. Even the elite culture elite leadership elite organization. Thing isn't always true you know. Kurt Warner took the Arizona. Cardinals owned by Bill Bidwell to the Super Bowl in nearly one it that year. That was not a good organization. Kurt Warner elevated that entire organization Peyton manning for all intents and purposes did the same thing with the colts in nineteen ninety eight. You Know Bill Polian was there. They had general manager there. Jimmer say had hired Polian but it was Peyton manning that took this more bond dysfunctional poorly owned NFL. Franchise you know and elevated it to championship caliber. I know they went to an AFC championship game with Harbaugh in the in the mid nineties. I understand that. That's that's fair but Peyton manning elevated that franchise. It was not considered to be a high culture elite cultured franchise. You know. No one's ever accused Jim Mercier. Bill Bidwell of being you know in the top tier of owners. They've always been in the bottom tier of owners the NFL is designed for two things. Lots of things to things for the purposes of this conversation number one is to have a good season doesn't necessarily make you a good organization but the NFL is designed for every team to have a chance at a good season. That's why the redskins as a bottom feeding franchise with milk with bad culture every once in a while hits that inside straight get some decent play ball bounces their way. They stay healthy and they're in the playoffs. You know one out of every five years essentially been the average during the Snyder tenure You know in some cases you know you can win a playoff game or two but good organizations have good culture which results in sustained winning so the NFL's designed for a good season the NFL is also a league in. Which if you get the right person and player at the most important position on the field quarterback you can and that person can elevate the organization. They can totally essentially wipe away. The nastiness that comes from dysfunction in the organization now doesn't mean that it wouldn't be easier being with a better organization right we we understand that It would be great for elite truly elite quarterbacks to also end up really good organizations but a quarterback can really wipe out a lot of dysfunction or at least Mascot. Because there's such an impact on the actual game itself at that position now. I don't know that Dwayne is that player. I don't know I don't think he's that player. You know my my I mean. I'm being repetitive. Here but my overall guests at this point is that Dwayne the bust. Potentials been eliminated. I don't think he's going to be a bust. I think he's going to be a starting quarterback in the NFL. And and I think he's got a chance to be in that range of guys. You know from eight to fifteen legitimate top half of the league starting quarterback. I think he's got that kind of potential. Do I see you know? Elite Greatness Peyton Manning. Tom Brady Aaron Rodgers. You know do I see that in him? Patrick Mahomes I don't maybe I'll see after another eight starts or nine starts. Get them up to where. He's played a full sixteen games and started a full sixteen. I think there's a lot of talent there but getting back to the Urban Meyer comments. He really got after the organization you know and you can sit there and say to yourself as really talking about last year's organization. He's not really talking about this year's organization and as I say that I don't believe that necessarily I think he may be talking about last year situation being much worse than that. He probably likes and respects Ron Rivera and you know thinks that this year's going to be better but you know he didn't say that last thing in past tense he said it in present tense and as I'm sitting here talking about this just you know to me. It's like if Tommy were here and he'll weigh in on this tomorrow. Tommy would give you the old liberals you know one of La Barros rules. You know he would say you know what I always say. You know what I always say. If things look bad Kevin from the outside. They're likely much worse on the inside. I've learned a lot from Tommy over the years. But that's one of his favorite things in so he's not really exposing this but he's you know he's obviously confirming it for those. That didn't think the REDSKINS had a bad culture But we're seeing what we're reading. We're hearing it was much worse. I mean there are things that we've all heard in the media. It was bad. That's why when some of you would argue with me. You know and say I was being negative about the organization. Look you. You don't have to go beyond the results to be negative But the results were caused by. Just incredible dysfunction. You Know Bruce. Allin was not good at his job. Dan Snyder's not been good at his. You know in one of the things that you know. Tommy will say tomorrow to is that if you believe. Urban Meyer's jest referring to last year. You're being incredibly naive. You know. You're you're being duped your stooge you know. Because we've learned this over the years that Ron Rivera people like Ron Rivera. Even though maybe guys like she in May will be glass half full thinking maybe Snyder is GonNa get at this time and they got themselves a good coach and if he can just stay out of it and let this guy do is give them full autonomy. It'll work out. I understand that I do. I'm not naive. I'm not a mark on this thing. I if you told me I had to wager to day on one of the two following results. Ron Rivera has great success. Or Ron Rivera does not have great success in Washington I in you told me I had to wager a lot of money like real money. I would wager that. He would not have long term success that he wouldn't be successful here. Why would I bet on the opposite? There's a litany of better coaches with better resumes. That have been here. That didn't it didn't work out for hall of fame coach. Joe Gibbs Mike Shanahan Marty schottenheimer borderline hall of fame. Coaches didn't work OUT FOR THEM HERE. But so I understand. I understand that you know if you think that. Urban Meyer is talking about Bruce Owl and and last year's culture and it's different now will I'm I am definitely leaning towards Ron Rivera. Having the chance to build this in you know in the way that he wants to build it you know. I think that that happy Thanksgiving Day press conference where Snyder talked about culture and he talked about coach centric and that Rivera Guy. And he's the guy that's GonNa lead us you know create a culture change and he's going to be the guy in charge. I think that Snyder for the M- for the moment anyway means it. You know I do. I think that he's GonNa leave him alone for the most part and I think Rivera's going to have a chance to do this. You know I guess. The concern would be The concern would be if things. Don't go well soon enough. You know because that automation could be incredibly fleeting. If Rivera doesn't win enough for the owner you know. Remember this about Dan Snyder. In stop with the. He's he wants to win. Will pay anything. Spend any amount of money. Stop with that. Who Cake is it's never worked and he's never been a good owner part of the problem. I've always felt really over the last. You know ten years anyway. There's never been any sort of an admission that he's been part of the problem. It's always been somebody else's fault you know. It was Vinnie's fault. You Know God God. How did VINNIE Hires Zoran? That's a disaster. Everything was going. Well when I brought coach Joe back and we would have continued to win and things would have continued to go well. Well I mean that's fine except coach. Joe Wasn't like he was not going to cover off the ball and round two. You had a losing record here. In four years yes miraculously got two teams to the postseason and that was fun in two thousand five in two thousand seven playing playoff games. It was but the Redskins weren't a good organization for the four years at Joe. Gibbs was here they just weren't? They had a losing record. There was terrible. Terrible MISSTEP AFTER MISSTEP in free agency during that period of time terrible missteps in managing contracts. And you know the economics of the Roster. You know it was not functional. It was much better coached. There was much better leadership in the locker room on the football side of the operation. But you know God God bless coach joke is. I love him but coach Joe Involved. Dan Involved Vinnie. Let them have say in what was going on. Whereas you know Marty Schottenheimer didn't and that's why he didn't last and Mike you know we had some power but didn't we'll that perhaps as much as he should have early on with like Donovan mcnabb. As an example I mean the bottom line with Ron. Rivera is in the only reason. I'm leaning more optimistically right now but not naively is they got themselves a really good coach in my opinion a respected person and leader Dan also had to reach a bottom. That was a new low for him now again. I don't think he blames it on himself. I don't think he looks in the mirror or looked in the mirror in December of last year and said I just realized it's my fault. It's been me all along. I don't think that happened. I think that he blamed brutes for this. You know in J for this and Bruce Hiring J. and bringing j back you know and I think a lot of that is the way he goes you know. Essentially we had him very much involved for ten years and then less involved for the last hand accepting key moments which were very destructive. Like rg three Perhaps like last year's draft although maybe he got that one right but It's never really been his fault with that. Said you'd have to be a moron to look out from your owners box at any point last year especially late last year and see basically a stadium that is at best twenty percent full and of the twenty percent full. You know Big Paying customers and they didn't pay much to get in more than half of them are rooting for the opponent. It you'd have to be an idiot to look out there and not notice that to not know what that means to your top revenue line. Now the team is never going to go away the NFL's at Juggernaut all thirty two teams share TV money. The redskins value continues to go up as does the value of every NFL franchise regardless of winning. It's interesting that Pete Rozelle designed to League in which it kept it healthy and continues to keep it healthy but also in many ways you know designed a league that doesn't require winning to be outrageously valuable. You know the Redskins are incredibly valuable. And they haven't won in twenty-six years you know they haven't been a significant factor in the NFL as a as a winner or a contender for you know. More than a quarter of a century. It's been but anyway The Urban Meyer stuff I thought was interesting. I think you know. In part the other part of this that I think in some ways is encouraging. Is that if Urban Meyer understands from the people that he talked to including former players. How bad it was here last year. Then Ron Rivera knows and I'm not suggesting that I thought that Ron Rivera didn't know I think some of you have concerns. That Ron Rivera doesn't know exactly what he got himself into. I think he does I think he does. I think he. He has spoken to culture now more than three times in various interviews. You know almost an admission that there has to be a culture change so Willy be allowed to to see it through. We'll time will tell on that one. I think he's GonNa get a chance certainly to get. It started in that direction. 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Was it more belichick or more Brady. I mean we've already had that debate but now that they're a part you know we're going to learn more about them now personally. I. I don't know what else you can learn about Brady. If he fails in Tampa he may have failed because he was forty two years old going on forty and that physically. He just was diminished as most players. Get you know to the that age. They have diminishing skills so I don't know that we're ever GONNA learn much about Brady like even if he plays great next year with by the way a terrific team around him and wins a super bowl. I don't think that that necessarily you know sort of separates him from belichick where you can say see. It was more Brady now. I think bellichik has more of an opportunity. Bella you know doesn't have a diminishing. Physical skill sets not required to be a coach. Bela CHEEK IF HE GOES ON TO WIN. A Super Bowl Or be a contender. You know in have a contending team for the next few years with say Jarret Stidham at quarterback. It's GonNa say a lot about belichick. It's a hell of a lot about chick. Now I bring this up because Asante Samuel Who played for the Patriots from two thousand? Three two thousand seven won two super bowls with the Patriots. it in on this particular discussion And he essentially said. It was always more Tom than it was bill. He said the following quote. I think bill belichick needed Tom to be successful. He tweeted this recently. Do you think Tom Needs Bill. My answer is no. Bill is known to be a defensive specialist. How many times did he have a top five defense into the did they? Were We win the Super Bowl? Tom Is always carried the team on his back with limited weapons. Josh mcdaniels. The one who really raised Brady not bellichik That was Asante Samuel weighing in now former Patriots Safety Rodney Harrison. Got In on the debate as well and he said quote. I think it's stupid. Essentially what Santi Samuel said because no matter how good those guys were together. Guess what. They weren't very good without tedy. Bruschi Ted Johnson Richard Seymour Willie mcginest I just think it's an injustice to all the great players that have come in there and really made major contributions to those championships. It's not just brady. It's not just bellichik so he wasn't necessarily saying it was more bellichik than Brady. He was just saying it. The defensive talent was better than sort of what Asante Samuel said. I I don't i. I don't know that we'll ever know for sure. I do. Think if bellichik goes on and wins big and contends for many more years with jace average quarterback or maybe a barely better than average quarterback that he will approved something Beyond what he proved with Brady and it will make us all in the long term future arguments. Say Look what Belichick did without Brady look what he did he. He won a super bowl with With Jarrett Stidham or he got to a super bowl which aired cinema. We went to two straight. Afc Championship Games in five. Had Five Straight playoff seasons with Jarrett. Stidham you know. Even that would be you know an indication of what a great Goetschi was but if he goes on to win the whole thing without Brady we're gonNA learn something about Belichick But anyway Personally I think it was both of them all along And I and I don't doubt that Belichick will have a well coached team. That plays well wins. Games goes to the POSTSEASON But I would be surprised if he wins championships. Without a really good quarterback you know a good to great quarterback Their teams have been at times. You know underrated defensively and usually when they've gotten to the post season they've been even better defensively than they were in the regular season. All right last thing I want to get to is that you know. This is sort of because there aren't live games but it's also because of the last dance in this documentary that is consumed sports fans for the last The last four weeks With the final two episodes coming this Sunday night. Espn NC CBS. Sports Dot Com did rankings of the all time. Nba Players. Now the the Espn DOT COM did a ranking of the top seventy four NBA players of all time. The seventy four Matching up with the seventy four year history of the League while CBS Sports Dot Com. Just did the top fifteen players of all time and ranked them in order. I'll start with the ESPN list. We'll do a little bit more on this tomorrow but first of all if you're wondering you know are there any. Washington players will the first thing when I see these lists. That are longer than ten or twenty players. I'm always looking for Elvin Hayes and for Wes unseld to see where they are on this list. You my personal feeling is that Elvin Hayes is one of the all-time Great Nba Power Forwards. And that he was probably a greater all around player than WES unseld. Even the WES unseld. Was You know hall of fame player in a phenomenal player in his own right? Don't get me wrong but I think he's had the better career. I think as is considered by most historians to be better Not by much but better. That's the way I see it at any time. And I've had this argument before and I think he always goes west at of a head of a head of Elvin Hayes And I'm talking about in Washington. You know Earl the Pearl Monroe and and and you know Gus Johnson et CETERA. Those are Baltimore. Bullets Not Washington bullets. So I go with the bullets. Since they've been Washington so on this list of seventy four players a man. This is a heartless to put together like even at the bottom of the list. You're talking about all time greats. Like the number seventy four all time. Nba Player is Artis Gilmore. The A train. I mean he was a great NBA player a great NBA player. You know a guy like Bob Lanier one of the all-time great centers is seventy one on this list. Bernard King Sixty Ninth Best Player fault. Saint Time I mean Bernard King was a ridiculous score Pete Muravich is sixty eight. This will make Tommy go crazy when I tell him this if he hasn't seen it already sixty eighth on the all-time list is Pete Muravich By the way Earl Monroe was sixty fourth on the list. Lonzo Morning Georgetown. Sixty third on the list. So I Willis Reed Tommy's all time favourite sixtieth on the list. Tommy will be apoplectic about that. Because I think he believes Willis reads a top ten player of all time. He's upper sixty on this list So number fifty on the list is wes. Unseld and number forty four on this list is Elvin Hayes. So Elvin Hayes is six spots ahead of WES UNSELD on this list. Elvin Hayes was a great player. The biggest problem with the biggie is. He didn't play his best in the biggest games that he played in he was not very good in the nineteen seventy five. Nba Finals against Golden State. He really wasn't very good. Nineteen seventy eight championship season. That they won. He was in foul trouble in game. Seven Seattle. He was on the bench when the game ended. You know now in seventy nine when they defended their title he had some of the best games he had had his entire career. As you know in the post season But he was just a scoring machine. He he's endurance. Level was all time never missed a game. He played a ridiculous number of minutes in every game he played in. He barely sat. He's an all time great. So as UNSELD Ahead of him by the way Russell Westward comes in forty second on this list but anyway The debate really starts when you get into like the top fifteen and you know. They're couple of guys outside the top fifteen. I mean I know Tommy would consider you know Willis Reed to be you. Know Worthy of top fifteen discussion Just outside the top fifteen guys that you know some of you might make case for Dirk came. In at Nineteenth Moses Malone came in at eighteenth Karl Malone at Seventeen in Jerry West at sixteen you could easily make the case for any of them to put him somewhere inside the top. Fifteen at fifteen was doctor Jay. Now I've always said and I've been mocked for it and that's fine that I think Dr J. is an all time great. Don't get me wrong. But in the conversation of the greatest when people put him into that conversation with bird and with magic and a Jordan you know before the Kobe Brian you know era these would be some of the conversations. I would say not. He's not in that group. He's not in that group he's an all time highlight reel player. You Know He. He's a great player. A clearly Dr J. was it'd be insane not to say that but I think in my on my list and I've always said this he's outside the top ten and he might be outside the top fifteen and I didn't try to act like Julius Irving wasn't you know top fifteen top twenty player of all time I just always had him on the backside of that countdown and on this list. Julius Irving is number fifteen you know and I guarantee you there. There will be some people that will have a problem with that that think. Dr J. should be higher up on this list. Here's his in front of him. Kevin Durant comes in at fourteen and Steph curry comes in at thirteen. So will be a debate. Among many you know curry versus durant. Curry's one spot ahead of them. I think that's fine for right now. Now durant still has. An curry still has time to continue to move up this list. Twelve on this list is his Hakeem Malaysia one. He's the guy that for me. In the same way Tommy thinks will read is always criminally underrated. I always feel that. Allies Yuan is underrated and doesn't get his. Do you know in the greatest centers of all time conversation. I put him right there after will and and recycle and Kareem. You know to me. He's right thereafter that now there are other centers in front of him like Shaquille. O'neal you know on this list. Oscar Robertson by the way was eleventh. And then you get to ten and that's where shack is. I think Elijah One's a greater player was a better player than shack. I would have him ahead of Shack. you know that's me at number nine is Coby Coby. Bryant definitely a top ten player and by the way the other titles he won. You know without moves him in front of Shack. I have no problem with him. Being at number nine Tim Duncan's eight and this is where you know again. A Guy I think allies one should be in front shack I think allies should be in front of Duncan Dunkin's one of the great winners of all time. Allies won two titles. Let's not forget that but Dunkin comes in at eight and then get into the conversation. I think that pretty much in recent years people have narrowed the list down. Try to get to some sort of Mount Rushmore at seven. Is Larry Bird? Right at seven. Is Larry Bird at six is will five is magic? Four is Russell Threes Kareem to is Lebron and one is Michael so I think that's the the the list you know. I think after bird seven I mean some of you may want coby on that list. Some of you may. When Duncan some I personally I think allies one could be in that you know in that truly elite group. But I think that you know when people talk about all right. Who's on Mount Rushmore NBA? All-time the list comes from the top. Seven like I think they got the top seven right. You know. Bird wilt magic. I think magic personally. I'd put magic ahead of you know probably Russell and Kareem Lebron to me magic would be number two after Michael I think Lebron's too high But you know this gets into that argument and I have it with my kids all the time I mean they think Lebron's the greatest player of all time and they don't they don't want to hear anything differently you know and they. They always point to the fact that Lebron leaves Cleveland and they're the worst team in the league the next year they're like. When did that ever happen? You know Michael Jordan left for those two years in the next year they won fifty five games without him and it's a good point. You Know Lebron every time. He left team. That team went basically went. Went to near the bottom of the standings. It's amazing what. Lebron did with certain teams like that team that he took to the NBA Finals against Golden State. That lost six with della Vedova in Amman. Shumpert in Timothy Mas. Goff I mean what a performance he put on put on an all time performance to carry that team to the NBA Finals. And be in it. They lost in six. I mean I I've come around on Lebron. You know being on a list like this. I'm not a Lebron fan a Mutt but and I am a a magic guy. I've always been a magic. I and I think magic and Michael in terms of the non center's are one and then two. I'd probably put Magic to behind Michael. You know it's close really close. And then you get into in the non center discussion for me. You get into Lebron but Larry Koby you know if you WANNA put Oscar on that list you know in terms of the non center's you put the centers into this conversation all time. Which is what they've done. You know ranking. The centers is tough. Because you know. Most people will look at Russell and say Great Defensive Center the greatest winner of all time. They'll look at Wilton. Say No greater player in terms of the gifts that he had the talented. He add the the numbers that he put up. You know cream. It's a combination of winning and the numbers. Then you get into allies yuan in and shack in Dunkin. I mean winners all of them. Numbers all of them But for whatever reason they're always sort of ranked is a little bit below Wilton Kareem in Russell Oh my my biggest gripe is we you know in the top fifteen is. I would have allies. You want a little bit higher. I'd have magic a little bit higher. I'd probably have Lebron a little bit lower. I probably have magic in front of Lebron for right now are I. I'm still leaving out. The possibility Lebron could move in front I think it's really hard with the centers in in the other players but I don't have a problem with Russell and Kareem being where they are. You know I'd probably move magic to to till four behind the two centres. He'd be number two in the non center conversation. But I I I love these lists this time of year And the CBS sports DOT COM top. Fifteen they had Jerry West fifteen. Dr J. Fourteen Curry at Thirteen Oscar twelve. Elijah wanted eleven. So one spot higher than they had koby at ten Dunkin at nine bird at eight shack at seven you know shack going on to win With weighed in Miami Is a you know a feather in his cap you know he got that done without. Koby there. Wilt comes in six magics five on this list to Russell Kareem Lebron and Jordan. So they had the exact same top five that Espn had actually. Did they have the same top? Six was wilt six on this list. Yeah the exact same Top six on this list. They had shack ahead of bird Anyway conversation for tomorrow I would think If Tommy wants to weigh in on that and I would guess That he Will want to do that. last thing before we run it's the whole baseball economics about returning the story Last night is that baseball. Basically held a call yesterday. Conference call yesterday Between owners and Players Association and the actual economics of of a return were not even discussed which is strange. You know what was discussed. Were a lot of the covy nineteen protocols including things like contact tracing and how they'll handle a positive test which by the way just as an aside is a bit encouraging in its own right the fact that they're talking about procedures in the case of a positive test rather than sort of throwing in the towel and saying if we get a positive test that teams out or we shut down. Because there's going to be a positive test in all of these sports and so if they're talking about moving forward and they understand there's going to be a positive test. I think somebody's GonNa test positive. I think that's encouraging if you want sports back I think that what the the the protocol will be obviously is if somebody tests positive. They're out you know maybe with contact tracing the four or five players that they've been in most recent contact with will be out now in football. What if they just played a whole team? I mean it gets really. It gets interesting but wasn't disgust and this is what I wanted to get to. What wasn't discussed were worthy economics? You know the Players Association believes that This conversation was sort of settled in March. The last time they talked in that they would be paid on sort of a pro rated basis based on the salaries they were due to receive and the reporting on. This has been that The owners are going to want a fifty fifty split that you know they they. They're going to pay the players based on. A percentage of you know overall revenue so that they're sort of sharing in the risk in this very unique season. Tell you what it's GonNa be really hard for the players With you know people dying and people without jobs and people being furloughed in healthcare workers putting their lives on the line every day. It's GonNa be really hard for the players to say you know The lease going generate four to five billion with an eighty two game schedule at fifty percent of that is just not enough That's GonNa be hard and at the same time you know they're going to be some of you. That would say well the owners can afford it. Just pay them the salaries But I personally think that there should be some sort of shared risk reward. It's it's unknown with. They're heading into in terms of revenue you know. They'll have a lot of fixed revenue when it comes to things like television and perhaps even certain sponsorships but they're certainly not you know a guaranteed amount based on last year's projection of of of attendance of people showing up the park. I think how that plays out will be very interesting on a lot of levels by the way I mentioned yesterday that I did a poll on the radio show yesterday about Tommy and I talked about it when you Wendy think you'd feel comfortable again going back to a packed stadium or arena. Fifty point five percent was the winner. I honestly don't know that was the answer I honestly don't know the more than half the respon- respondents and we had over three thousand votes fifty point five percents that I honestly don't know twenty five point six percent said they would do it now. Twenty percent said a year from now and people who said never that was at three point eight percent which I think on some levels encouraging of course I understand the people with underlying diseases in the elderly and that Del. This has been a moment in time which they can't you know? Put Back into the barn and that you know if they go to stadiums or arenas for concerts sporting events that they probably won't want to do it anymore. I get that but I think it's encouraging that that number is so low because it says to me that not everybody's thrown in the towel on this you know And that you know they they understand that. At some point they're going to have to get back to living their life and living their life assessing the risks and you know making plans to to try to minimize the risk. You know to a certain degree but to continue to live their life all right. I'm done for the day back tomorrow Tommy.

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Redskins Ready For Free Agency

The Kevin Sheehan Show

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Redskins Ready For Free Agency

"You want it you need it. It's what everyone's talking about the Kevin Sheehan show. Now here's Kevin. I'm here. Aaron tear. We're going to be here We could take a day off this week. It would be Wednesday if we do take a day off from just giving everybody a heads up on that but more likely than not. We won't because it's a busy sportsweek. I mean there are no games but the NFL is proceeding ahead with its free agency period and it's going to clearly steal the the sports headlines. I mean I think we talked about it a little bit last week. The truth of the matter is this particular month. Doing shows would have been a lot of basketball and a Lotta tournament but a lot of NFL. Free Agency like we do every year. And so that's not gonNA stop. Obviously the redskins are going to be pretty active. I believe in Free Agency in the League essentially made it clear to all of its teams yesterday and this is something. The players wanted that the player Team Negotiation Window Aka. The legal tampering periods starts today at noon and that the league year is starting as scheduled Wednesday at four PM. So we're GONNA start. Hearing all of the deals here really beginning at noon that the deadline to franchise tag to use the tag is eleven fifty nine this morning and the franchise taxes coming out furiously. This more they tagged Dak Prescott yet in Dallas Deck I haven't seen yet but Derrick Henry Tennessee A. J. Green in Cincinnati Jack but You Know Shaq Barrett in Tampa so there you go. I mean everybody's going to be using the tech. I think what's going to happen in Dallas? Today you know by the time you listen to this. It probably already happened but if they tag back without signing him to a long term deal then. Amari Cooper hits free agency because you can only use one tag now because the collective bargaining agreement was approved by the players. Late Saturday night audited overnight Saturday and early Sunday and announced that it had been approved yesterday morning despite the fact that five hundred players estimated did not vote. You know I mean. Isn't that so typical right? There's all this you know going back and forth between star players and other players about the you know about the CBA and whether or not they should you know basically have a firm stance of of renegotiating a better deal in voting. No and meantime a fifth of the players basically didn't even vote. I'm sure they were out. Vacationing having a great old time couldn't care less. Say whatever you guys decide. It's fine with us But that's by the narrowest of margins tail sixty votes A very narrow margin so those five hundred of the votes that were cast could have made a difference. One way or the other But that got done yesterday. That means the seventeen game regular season is in play for is early Est. Twenty twenty one means that the fourteen game expanded playoff format. Which I think would have happened even without this. Cba is all set pretty much for the twenty twenty season. They set the salary cap yesterday at a one hundred ninety eight point two million dollars per team. That's up ten million from last season a little bit less than the just north of two hundred million projected. I think the redskins right now are between forty four and forty seven million in available Cap. Space that is obviously contingent upon. You Know I. It could change based on what they do with Trent Williams which would free up twelve and a half million. If they're able to trade him. I would expect them to restructure Ryan Kerrigan to lower the CAP number for this year And then you know when all said and done potentially you know if they trae Trent Williams big if they're Somewhere the neighborhood of sixty million potentially in available dollars to spend in free agency they have guys like Erick Flowers. They may be thinking about expended extending. Excuse me Quinton Dunbar. But then you get into. You know what they're going to do. We're GonNa Bring J. P. Finley on Shortly to discuss all of those things You know there was news over the weekend. Tennessee signed Ryan Tannehill. That means no Tennessee for Brady. The forty niners said no one brady And it looks like the chargers and the raiders and the Patriots now are the teams that you know are more likely than not for Brady You had anthony. Costanzo agree to a an extension this morning in Indianapolis it takes one of the big potential tackles off the market. Although I don't think most people thought he would brandon. Sheriff got tagged Sixteen fifteen to sixteen million probably fifteen million with the new tag number unless the redskins work out a long term deal by July fifteenth so tons of NFL. We'll get to all of it with J. P. Finley coming up Look I don't know what you guys did over the weekend with no sports It was it was certainly a different weekend Around our house you know It started I think Saturday morning. One of my boys just put out a group. Text can't believe Cowan played so poorly and yet we still one come on. Let's go beat Michigan State. Today that was basically and that that took on a life of its own my brother from Costa Rica got involved in the whole thing and and we were. You know basically playing out Michigan State game on Saturday because we had nothing else to do. it sucks that. There is no hoops this week. And it sucks that there was no selection show last night. All of that is true. there were There was a a true okay. Boomer joke That was making the rounds I don't know if this was a social media thing among sports fans I got texted it by two different friends which tells me that somehow they got access to it more likely than not of the social media but basically the joke went like this Day Three without sports I was wandering around my house. Found this woman on my couch. Turns out she's my wife. I got that from my mom. There you go. You know not that funny. I'm sure a lot of people. Hashtag it with boomer remover. After that which really made me laugh on Friday. I did find it interesting. If you were following. The whole you know Should there shouldn't have put out a bracket over the weekend? I was hoping they'd do it but it really is. It's nonsensical the do it but man how about that story about the NCW considering a sixteen team tournament you know up until the very end when they called off the tournament by Vice President of men's basketball for the NC Double A. Dan Gavitt told the Associated Press that they started to consider ways of condensing the tournament late last week once the NBA announced it. Season was over. They presented multiple ideas. One of them was for a sixteen team. Tournament played this coming Thursday. Through a week from Monday night they would have had the sweet sixteen on Thursday. The elite eight on Friday and the final four on Saturday all in Atlanta so they would have played it one destination so one travel No fans are right and they would've played the final on Monday night. in in state farm arena as well in Atlanta Joel Nardi actually put out. A bracket is sixteen bracket. I don't know if you saw it. Maryland was a thirteen seed playing Dayton in the first round which would have made them the first four seed which is where they were in the yard he just took his top sixteen right Mark Amherst the head of the NCWA said yesterday that they thought they had a shot to play the entire tournament until Rudy Gobert tested positive. And then they pretty much knew that point. It was going to be Over so you had that from over the weekend. I will tell you right now when I did Over the weekend sports wise that I really found interesting. And I'll do that when J P Finley joins us here momentarily but since we last spoke actually I think it broke when we were doing the podcast? And Friday at the Masters was Was cancelled and I think we just hit on most of the major things we're GONNA GET JP Finley in here room talk some redskins free agency. Nfl Free Agency. Because it looks like we're going to have a lot of that to talk about during the week. One real quick thing before we move off of. Nfl Free Agency. A KIRK cousins. Just got a new contract with the Vikings really. It happened and he got to so we got the extensively addict so basically it's two new year's worth sixty six million so in addition to the year he already had so we had one year left to new to New Year's on top of it sixty six minutes so at thirty three million a year so three years ninety six million is wow as remaining on his contract now. Wow so this morning on the radio show We're is the Ian Rapoport has rappaport. Has IT So I had a bunch of people tax me looks like irks poll in the same Bullshit Minnesota. 'cause he's not signing a long term contract because there was some reporter reports over the weekend that he had and I said well no no good agent is going to tell him to sign a contract extension before free agency hits. He's GonNa WanNa see how the market you know hits and here. It is kirk cousins to your deal. Sixty six million. Well if they're gonNA offer that much money at thirty three million per year. Yeah you know which is what basically five million more per year with two years deal is all guaranteed guaranteed signing? Yeah Yeah you'RE NOT GONNA turn down that deal the YOU'RE NOT GONNA turn down that deal good interesting us. Ian rapoport summing up the kirk cousins deal to New Year's worth sixty six million three in all for ninety six million sixty one of guaranteed its signing an additional thirty five million guaranteed for injury but converts to a full contract at the beginning of the twenty twenty one season. They won't cut him after year. One and sixty one million of course which means that basically the whole thing is guaranteed for all intents and purposes. I mean they could cut him after twenty twenty good not guaranteeing sixty one. I guess the question is sixty. One million guaranteed is that sixty one of the ninety six or is that sixty one of the sixty six that sixty one of the two two years I say this you are guaranteed but he was going back and forth between talking about it as the full. Three years design wasn't one hundred percent. Sure on that while he has broken the bank. Now many times and speaking of quarterbacks jackets the franchise tag and Dak Prescott Jess gets the franchise tag. Which means Amari Cooper is going to an unrestricted free agent especially for people to legally in the legal. Tampering period begins at twelve noon. Expect the Redskins to target Amari Cooper. I let's bring in. J P Finley from NBC Sports Washington JP How's everybody in your household you all stocked up on everything. Yeah Man I. I think we're in pretty good shape. We got Chicken Nuggets and we've ever had and You know it's just it's going to be chaos with two little kids stuck in the house you know we're GonNa make it work. Yeah I mean you by the way I. I love the days of chicken nuggets pizza in grilled cheese. And I don't know what kind of parents you and your wife are so don't take this the wrong way. If you're among the group that is super into you know all of the foods that the kids eat because I remember my wife and I making an honest effort to you know. Let's eat apples. Let's eat fruits and and the whole thing and all healthy but bottom line. I had three boys and you know what they wanted. Chicken nuggets or grilled cheese pizza ultimately. That was the only way to get him to eat So here's what's crazier was with. My daughter is that she doesn't like pizza and sometimes she likes grilled cheese. Sometimes she doesn't she's a it's a challenge man but Eater a healthy eater. She loves apple's so we eat a lot of good on like English Muffins. Light we English muffin. You're probably her favorite food. I like English muffins out. That Celtics are good. And I don't think there's been a run on English muffins although at the Safeway you and I both are live close to and the giant that you and I both live close to There was no bread. I do people buy the bread and then freeze it. Is that what they're doing? Because you know. Bread is what we call them. The trade a perishable item shelf life. I I WANNA know the size of the freezers. People have because we've got some extra stuff to freeze but like nowhere close to enough of you know one is going on out there. I. It's been kind of crazy watch but I see. Here's a grocery store tip for seven. I don't know what kind of deal the giant bias has with amazing as Marlins Thomas's your Thomas telling them. They often have buy one. Get Two free right off. And that's a wild deal in the English muffin market. I am in the English muffin market often in the English muffin market. And I think one of the reasons you get those deals in any supermarket actually is because if you look at the expiration dates on English muffins and just bread in general. That's why they're always deals on. Bread is they've got short shelf-life and pretty quick expiration dates so if they aren't moving per typical they're gonNA throw that incentive out there to move the product rather than you know have it die. I mean there's nothing worse than and I sort of was in this business for many years. There's nothing worse than eating perishable items in and having him not sold because that goes right to what's called the shrink number the overall product a number. Which isn't a good thing. But Yeah you notice that on all breads really typically. There's always at some point. There's an incentive to really move him. Yes there's ever incentives right now. How much are you missing you mostly? I don't know everybody knows this about gp but GP's a sports fan but a big basketball fan and a big TURPS fan too. I really it was painful this week. And it's going to be even more painful. This coming week I Oh you know what I forgot to mention. Aaron and I forgot to mention this on the radio show and mentioned right now for everybody so one of the stories that came out over the weekend was the NC double A. extending eligibility for seniors for spring sports and they are likely to do with winter sports as well. I didn't see likely I thought they were considered. I think it's I think it's likely I can tell you this right now. Anthony Cowan even if he were given a fifth year. Opportunity is not coming back now. He is whether it's in Europe or you know a long shot at an MBA career or you know A. G. League career whatever it's called now He's ready. I think to to move on but your your big hoops Fan. I mean I. It just sucks because I think we had a chance to make a deep run. Yeah I'm you know. They made the wrong decision. But it you feel bad for the kids the coaches I mean as a fan. I was so excited about it. Especially if you look at I mean this is all hypothetical now but Maryland to been playing a sweet sixteen in Madison Square Garden. Pre- pretty easy for a lot of us. I don't know man it's a it's a shame but I saw that Lombardi had them play in. Uva In the in the second round I would have been terrified of that matchup. So maybe I'll go to the bad that we don't necessarily have deal with Watt who fan but you and I probably had gone to. The garden would have probably been sitting together because our ticket source would have been the same person and he already told me and. I'm sure he told you. He had us all setup for Madison Square Garden for the regionals if Maryland had got that would have been. I think that would have been a fun week. It would have been one weekend because the last time in New York with friends from work was the super bowl year and I don't think coolly and I slept for three consecutive nights and then it was on that at two consecutive nights by the time we got to the third night. I basically said no moss than I actually needed to to sleep because he's just a tad younger than I am. all right. Let's get to yeah. We that was that was that was actually the most the San Francisco super bowls grade. The obviously the Super Bowl's in south Florida and New Orleans are all all always awesome that New York week with spectacular. It was freezing cold the whole week but it was so much fun radio row. Was it in the city? Yeah Yeah it was in Manhattan. Yeah we were in the city and it was It was basically in. I think it was in midtown But and so it worked out really well All right so as we were sitting here news breaking all over the League Prescott got tagged Derrick. Henry got tagged Kirk. Cousins just signed a massive contract extension. It's funny JP. Because you know all the people that listen to to to me that no that I like. Kirk cousins are like. See what you're doing to the Vikings doing the same thing and I said just hold on for a second. He's probably GonNa wait a little bit here to see what how the free agent market shakes out. He doesn't get the right offer. He got the right offer. Thirty three million a year you know. Sixty one million guaranteed an extra two years on that deal And you know that's why I don't think they're getting rid of digs man. There's no way I see digs getting moved to you. They've been pretty adamant that they're not going to so I. I don't expect it You know they've got kirk locked in. I think they are kind of in the win. Now Situation I mean you know they were able to go to New Orleans with a playoff game. I think they've got to keep that thing going and feeling a digs or a huge part of it and I and I believe the wouldn't mind starting somewhere else. But he's got a contract and you know. I don't think he's going anywhere I think. He thinks he didn't sign the greatest deal that he could have signed. But that's that's more on him and I. I'm sure that there are issues he has. I don't know why he should have them after last year. I mean I know. Theline didn't play a lot but he had a hell of a year. You know in the team had a legit shot. I mean if it stayed healthy the entire year with feeling they may. Have you know one more games in potentially won the division but They're losing players. A lot of players defensively. So it'll be interesting. Let's get to our team So you know in thinking about free agency and I want to get your thoughts on all this but I think that the conversation has to start with some assumptions like is Trent GonNa be there or not. You know. It's twelve and a half a million of additional money if he isn't if he is then it's twelve and a half million of less money You know as Sheriff GonNa plan to the tagger. A long term contract extension is Ryan. Kerrigan GonNa get an extension that lessens the cap hit from eleven and a half to something much less so that we can come up with an actual number How have you been thinking about it? Like what are your thoughts on Trent on Ryan so that we can drill down to sort of a number to start with so. I don't know what's going to happen with. I know he talked about being open to whatever it takes to stay with the redskins and I think the smart thing to do would be to extend him and lower the number this year and maybe even a two year extension and you guarantee some of that money because none of his money's guaranteed right now but you spread it out. And then he goes from making twelve year to Megan someone more palatable for them seven or something but I don't know that those conversations have taken place because frankly if they had. They should have gotten that done already. You know. That's the kind of thing that you want done before. The market opens. And since he's your player and he's under contract that you'll have to wait for the tempering period or anything for something like that You know can't become official until the New Year you could get anything done So the fact that it's not done and just all the conversation around Kerrigan is that he's staying and he's one of the guys I I wonder if he loves going to play this year on that in the last year of his contract. Trent I think it's I. I don't see Trent playing here I I don't know how long it'll take if it lasts all the way until the draft but I mean Trent said to the post you know. Are you done with the Redskins? And I think the quote was like basically yes and then his agent said we really appreciate the reds has given us this opportunity to see a trade and you just need the fresh start like. I don't see how those comments play well with Ron Rivera. You Know Ron came in fresh met with Trent by all accounts a good meeting and then he kinda just stay where it was. We want a new deal. We want out of here. So if I'm Ron I get kinda posturing right now. WE'RE NOT GONNA deal in for less than a second. We're not gonNA give them away as I understand all that but I think that the CBI has done and the league. I think the was the first hurdle for teams to figure out how much they WANNA pay guys and and then there was like the questions around Corona Right. Like is this GonNa we gonNA open the league open happening and both those questions unanswered. Cbs's done and the League's opening so now teams are going to have to move forward the teams that are interesting trend and I think the browns and the jets will really be interested in threat. They're gonNA go through the process working out a contract with Trent and whatever the guaranteed money is going to look like. I mean you saw Anthony Anthony Costanzo for the colts. Just got I think. Thirty two MIL guaranteed to US sixteen Everybody talks about the lane. Johnson deal even do like a survey? Who's good but he's not on that elite. Peer tackle getting big money. I think if a team is willing to guarantee trends say it's thirty eight million two years on a three year contract extension. I think that team is going to be willing to give up a third and a fourth or some sort of package that will satisfy the redskins. What do you think the package that satisfies the Redskins is now second? I mean I don't know there's a New York Rautenbach Yano that was Two-thirds the jets have to third round picks. The browns have to fix. Also I think another team will emerge as this thing keeps going and you know what happened as free agency. Plays out a little bit. I think the skins would love to have it done. But it's a complex. A lot of things need to happen getting and maybe the market but there are plenty of teams at what Trent Williams right. He's a really good player. don't let it be forgotten that the new CBA no longer really tests for pot anymore. So one thing that it costs. Trent gained on. The passenger is off the point You know he. He should be healthy. I mean the cancer scare but his body hasn't taken any on field action over a year. There's certainly a market for trump Williams was is that market at what he thinks he should be paid and then that team has to give up a draft pick complicated. It's a complicated matter. Yeah my position. Is this if they don't get back what they want and what? They should get back for a player of his caliber. Which to me right now. Based on the leverage they have compared to what they did have I think they would have gotten more previously and we can debate that until the cows come home. The bottom line is they never made them available so we'll never really know what he could have brought back but to me. It's a second round pick and it's the top half of the second round and if they don't get that back there is no way trend's GonNa sit twenty twenty. He's he he can't I I would imagine at some point. You get to the point where you can't afford to just throw millions of dollars away anymore but beyond that you know if he wants to get a big deal next year he's got to play this year he can't sit out two years in a row so my position in is this is that you know it was petty and personal as we both know for too long right. Now it's just business ron. Rivera can look Trent Williams in his agent in the eye and say look. I can't I got nothing to do with the past man. I gotTa do what's best for us. I can't give you way that if we I'm not we're not in the business of giving players like you away for for for less than what we think you're worth so if we don't get back what we want come play for. Us player ass off in a contract year and you know. And then you'll be a free agent next year you sir. You know I mean. The redskins could conceivably franchise tag him next year. But I think the chances of him playing for them while I thought they were. Zero are much higher than zero now. Like there's a one in five chance he could play for them next year. Because no one's GonNa pay him what he wants and nobody's going to give the redskins what they want. I would go that high. I think the scenario you laid out is what's going to happen with quitting Dunbar. I think he's GonNa play and then go to free agency next year. Look to get paid. I Ron Rivera has said I mean for the story to like silver. I read that I read. Basically you're either in or out and if you're out I just don't see I don't see that all happening and I don't think unhappy. Trent is a is a good thing for a team rebuilding trying to change their culture I could be wrong. I wouldn't go as high as twenty percent I I i. I'M NOT GONNA rule it out but I think it's five ten. I mean Trent already set out of you you don't think. Jp He can't. He can't sit out another year. I personally I don't think he can afford to sit out another year next. That could well be true. I I do think that. Cva Just changed some stuff about contract. Holdouts that make it harder to do that. The fines that players accrue cannot be waived anymore So that's an interesting kind of subway team right because what happens most of the time rack up when they get waived yeah I I I just I just see this thing moving on I you know I. Tournament spoke just understanding the situation. I I just you're going to twenty percent maybe on the halfway and saying there's ten percent chance six around and you're right like I don't know that I see him not playing but maybe a situation where he can go somewhere and play the last year on that deal and then the skins can get in. That team will be willing to give up more draft compensation. Because you know they don't have to shell out on the cash. I two thirds is better than a third. Two thirds essentially equals a second depending on where they are so and let me be clear. Twenty percent means that. I think that there's an eighty percent chance he gets moved. But what I've been hearing is. They turned him loose to seek a trade because they thought he would struggle getting what he wanted and he would have the realization of what the market value was and that they're not giving them away. You know I remember reading that story on that Mike. Silver wrote and I had him on the show shortly after he wrote that in shortly after the redskins moved on Ron Rivera and I thinking about that I forget what the quotes are but I know exactly the store you're talking about. I wonder if Thomas Davis or leuke cleared stood up in that meeting and said Yeah. We don't really agree with what you're doing. We know two and fourteen last year. Yeah go ahead and move me if he would have actually moved them for nothing. You know ultimately part of this culture re rack Is To you know. Avoid setting the precedent of allowing a really good player to walk for less than what he's worth. I would think but I'm with you in terms of the the likelihood is that he gets moved. I just personally hope they don't give in on an end up dealing him for one third. Two thirds is different than one third. That's twice the value that you're getting back We will still look at this and know that. They made a big mistake by not moving him when they should have moved him. You said that at one point. I don't know there were beating a dead horse but like Boston's things so bad last August very clearly. He wasn't coming back. You gotta move them. They didn't know That's the that's the petty and personal Part of the organization as we as we knew it hopefully. Hopefully it's not as we know it moving forward. You said something about Ryan Kerrigan in a way that that leads me to believe that you think there's a chance rank arrogance not back. Well I think he's ever say that again. I think Kerrigan's definitely back. Oh you do but it definitely back what value you think. They're going to pay him. Eleven and a half million dollars and to play here next year. I think it might work out an extension. I just don't know why that would be okay when you said it that way that I don't know why it would have been done. It led me to believe that. Maybe you thought it wasn't going to get done. And therefore my assumption was they. Don't get an extension done with him. They're not paying eleven point six million dollars to come back here and play next year. I don't know that they're not I? I I think Kerrigan I think arrogant is coming back. I think he could have a big year to I. I think Letting him go up field for the first time in his career is and I think the defense could look a lot. Different I but I certainly think Kerrigan's coming back. I can be proved wrong but what I would I feel pretty clear on that. I think he's coming back to but I think they're going to work out an extension to lower the the. The hit ended extended out a couple of years. You know. Give them a little bit more. In guaranteed money here extended out and lower the cap to call it six seven million this year. Something like that. I think that would make a ton of sense. I just don't know why they have done it. And maybe it'll happen before Wednesday or something but you know you'd like to get that thing done before the market opens and you could start. Whoever it is they're calling and I think you think they're calling Cooper Right. I think they have. I know they have a day of Cooper Drake in Hooper on their list of targets. Whether or not they get a chance at them you know it's going to have to do with his availability and his want to be here but I do think there that they have interest in cooper. Drake and Hooper. I think he's going to kind of think that causes. Go too high. What do you think he goes to what I think it's I think it's at least eleven and four of his four inches from multiple teams. But here's the crazy part about being scared off at eleven. Say they pay him twelve over twelve million a year. That would still be less than they paid to Davis and Jordan Reed and twenty nine still being lowering the cost at that position. Yes and I think unless you don't think he is the guy unless you just think he is a good player coming to market at the right time at a relatively weak position group. If that's the case then you don't go to the top of the market for but you think he can play and you're scared off by the number and you look at how you've been running the numbers a deposition. Anyway you look at just what you cleared by releasing Jordan Reed for the year. I think that'd be a little. I think it'd be shortsighted Cooper I don't feel Jerry tries to keep him. I don't know but I do. But he's but you know as of now looks like he's going to make it to unrestricted free agency as we know that doesn't mean that he won't resign with his former team Here go ahead just to your point. About Cooper Hooper Drake. You're talking about speed. Guys in Gaza can make plays down the field and you know tight ends a little bit different but he can. He can be on the field. All three all three downs for you can block I this is not this is fairly obvious but I did have a redskins decisionmaker. Tell me an indie. We need playmakers all over the field and I think if you put Cooper Maclaurin and Simpson's all of a sudden I turn go through some moats over the weekend and I kept going back to this one quote from Ron Rivera. Now he was talking about why he would have no problem adding chase young to a defensive front that they've already used a lot of first round picks on right and he said that there's something in fact there's nothing wrong with making your strength stronger and I kind of think about that with adding cooper to me. It's not the position to break the bank on. But if you think if player changes dynamically what you can do on the field and it makes that. Yeah I think that. I think that they believe that they can turn this thing around. Relatively quickly and that they're coaching defensively is GonNa make a significant impact and adding chase. Young in the draft will be an immediate major impact player. That would that that will make everybody else better. And what you know the that. The aggression in free agency will be specifically You know tailored to or or the goal will be in addition I mean we know they need a corner. They need probably another safety. Potentially WE WE UNDERSTAND THAT. They need to corners But that they they need weapons in pieces around dwayne. And that's they need more playmakers on offense so that they don't have to rely if that defense is coached up and his better they don't. WanNa put the twenty twenty and twenty twenty one seasons in the hands of a quarterback. That's not ready with no weapons. So I think I think it's the I think that's where the you know the Cooper Drake Hooper and potentially others you know Other playmakers offensively. I think that's where that sort of comes from. Is this notion. Their their internal notion that they've got to add weapons to give Dwayne shot and give him a legitimate James. I think that they're active much-improved right away but they're also going to have to sign supporters There's there's money they're going to spend on the side of the ball. I think it corner. I think they need some linebackers. I think some veteran guys you can sign. I'm not saying go to fourteen million a year for a little bit or something but that new poaching should be better and the defense should be better but they still outside of fraud. They're not particularly talented. And I know people don't like to hear that but I mean landon. Collins is good and I think quitting done more when he's healthy quite good but that's the list all right. You've gotta run. Give me three names that you think they'll target and they'll be successful or have a really good chance of successfully signing or certainly think. Hooper is one of them I think they're gonNA make a run out of just don't know how much money is i. Think similarly with James Bradberry The corner that we've all heard a lot of talk about And then after that. It's just gets tough because you you're kinda throwing names that out of hats but I think trae Boston's Agata can make some central them. He's playing for very dumps around a fair amount. He's never really gotten a long term deal. I don't know how much of the cost them but I'm really curious like you said Just to they need playmakers. You know the coaches are saying that the decision makers in the front office are saying that. So how are you GonNa get them? And and you. I think Cooper will end up staying in Dallas. But he's obviously the biggest target out there. it's GonNa be a very very interesting time One other name. I believe he's going to be available. Run Rivera talked about positional versatility Guy Daryl Williams I. This is like a depth thing but he played both tackle spots in Carolina. He played a little bit of guard. He's going to be available particularly expensive. I think I think that's Kinda signing. Maybe you don't see that next week or something but I think names like that we're gonNA see As well and the only thing. We didn't mention his IF TRENT GOES THEY. They have a need for left. Tackle Shirk it and it goes. The crazy part is that people should be looking at Gerry Christian as the guy to step in there. But I don't know what's going to happen. I mean the team hasn't felt particularly strong him and I think they will draft a tackle and you'd look at robbers track record in in Charlotte and he plays rookies. Young guys play so I. I would expect that to happen. I mean I I think I flowers is going to get more money than they WANNA pay. Because of the money they're GONNA Pay Sheriff. Us flowers you talking about maybe West Martin over there or maybe reay play guard and Anne Pierce Bigger Place Center I think things will look different for sure And I think the young guys lined up on the This is a great diversion for for us to have this conversation. You know I always enjoy it at J. P. Finley NBC s on Twitter Redskins Talk PODCAST NBC sports Washington. He's going to be all over it the next few days follow him. Listen to him Great job as always. I'll talk to you soon. Thanks good job from JP interesting comment there at the end about Eric Flowers because I think I read this last week. This tweet from the sky basically mocking me for saying Eric. Flowers WOULD END UP IN CLEVELAND. and Then there was reports that the redskins. We're GONNA Resign Eric Flowers. I've not seen that they have They still have time. I you know the reporting the reportings all been about Eric Flowers re-signing in Washington but Jp just gave you that. The flowers money may go to high which would be interesting If it does I would expect him to be in a place like Cleveland And then they'd then they'd have a need not nearly the need they'd have had left. Tackle Losing Trent because they do have a guy in West Martin that can step in there. Who played pretty well last year when he had the chance. A quick word about my Book Heat Dot AG It is certainly An interesting time in the sports world right now. there's no NCWA tournament Tibet on there's no NHL to bet on there's no NBA Tibet on And but there are other things about on. I mean you either know golf to bet on right now but their futures bets. They're they're posting some stuff on you know. Nfl Free Agency So if you're looking for a place to wager mybookie dot. Ag is totally trustworthy. That's what you want all right. You want You WanNA place. It's easy to use. That will pay fast when you win. 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Sign him to a contract extension. That could lessen the number for this upcoming season but assuming plays under the tag fifteen million all right assume they draft chase young and assume they're going to be aggressive in free agency. If they restructure Karen Carrigan Trade Trent. You're going to have some. Were roughly in the neighborhood of about sixty two million in cap space. What are their needs while their needs would be left? Tackle that point perhaps another guard a tight end more offensive skill position players because it is true. I believe in toll has talked about this three weeks ago for the first time that they are going to be aggressive. Trying to get playmaking weapons around dwayne on offense. That's why guys like Cooper and Hooper in Kenyan. Drake are going to be targeted. If all of them are free agents Corner is a need middle linebacker potentially could be in need. Because you're not sure about Reuben Foster. You're not you don't have. Jon Bostick resigned. You do have Shawn Deehan Hamilton. I don't know what they think of him. Free safety potentially is in need even though Monte Nicholson is under contract. Entropy played some last year. So what's the plan The plan is I think they're going to be by the way we we. We didn't mention one other need in that. Other neatest quarterback you know they still have to add a quarterback to this roster. So here's some of the names. Okay Obviously Austin Austin. Hooper's name That everybody's going to be dialed in on bees. The redskins don't have a tight end They would have to spend roughly eleven twelve million somewhere around that four in Austin Hooper To sign here He's at target. You Know Delaney Walker. Just got cut by Tennessee. If they're looking for veteran you know where they could potentially then draft a younger guy later on The left tackle becomes a significant. Need if there's no Trent Conklin is gonNA probably get somewhere between fourteen and sixteen million years. He's a fifteen million dollar a guy deal. But if you're trying to surround Dwayne with weapons you also have to think about surrounding Gi- dwayne with a solid offensive line. You can't put somebody in left tackle that you're not sure about now. You could go sign a veteran and draft a left tackle especially if you get a second rounder back for Trent that second round or could be a left tackle to eventually become your starter and you could sign Jason. Peters you could sign a veteran left tackle for a year or two peters is thirty eight years old he's GonNa demand actually believe it or not you know in the seven to nine million dollar range more likely than not but if you had him in for a year and you drafted somebody that could be the way to go rather than signing a Conklin in free agency at fifteen million Amari Cooper is going to be an eighteen to twenty million dollars per year guy. He's GonNa be five years. You know a hundred million north of one hundred million dollar guy with seventy of it guaranteed. That's what he's going to be more likely than not. I think the REDSKINS ARE GONNA make a run at him. If he hits free agency it would appear as if he is I am all for another veteran wide receiver. Not Not an old veteran. A guy that's got you know playmaking ability guy that's played he's played four years okay I am not going to have a problem if they if they make a splash and they go after. And they sign Amari Cooper. Give Dwayne some weapons Other names Cory Littleton the linebacker from the rams. If they're looking for a middle linebacker he's GonNa cost you. Twelve million bradberry obviously Byron. Jones is too much money. Pretty sure Byron. Jones is too much money for the redskins. I think a very interesting name to keep an eye on his Anthony Harris. He's going to get big money and you don't invest that much money into the safety position. You know with what they have invested in Landon Collins but if you think that if you add another playmaking free safety to your in box close to the line of scrimmage play making Safety in Landon Collins in you've got a pass rush with chase young and everybody else in you coach it up. Well you know. Maybe they think they can get by with Quinton Dunbar and a lower level signing at corner maybe a Kendall Fuller Anthony Harris is going to get big money though you know But JP mentioned trae Boston. Anthony Harris's probably GONNA get a little bit more money not much to Mary's Randall's there at a Cleveland also back to the offense. Don't forget Devin. Funchess who played for Rivera at Carolina. The problem with funchess's he really didn't play very well as she was hurt too. But the colts gave a boatload of money and he really didn't produce quarterback while they gotta sign a quarterback. I've given you guys many names over the last month or so you know. I think they're going to sign the true backup quarterback. I think that that is going to be the move Brett Hundley you know chase. Daniel Blaine Gabbert. You Know Blake Bortles. You know those names right that we've mentioned how about Sean Manion as a name. I love Schoneman. You loved him. Coming out of Oregon State He played briefly with. Sean McVeigh in. La'S BEEN IN MINNESOTA. The last couple of years backing up Kirk. I think at six six to thirty. There's a lot of Duane in him. plays a bit like dwayne. Maybe not the playmaker. Join is but a pure backup. I had Chad Forbes from NFL draft bites on the radio show earlier. He actually thinks there's going to be interest in manion but there's somebody to consider in terms of In terms of Ah Backup quarterback which they'll have to sign you know So you know the the the bottom line is quarterback left tackle. What are you going to do? It left tackle if you trade. Trent at guard. You do have an answer. If you lose Eric. Flowers tight end. Who is going to be a target? I would think Hunter Henry to me is better. I would not sign Eric Brown. Not An Eric Brown fan. I think he takes too many. Plays off You know Kenyan Drake Cooper and hooper or sort of those playmakers but there are others Corner Bradberry to meese too expensive so as a Jones Middle Linebacker. I would think a guy like cory littleton. But you've also got a guy like Blake Martinez in Green Bay As a possibility free safeties trae Boston's name is as GP mentioned Anthony. Harris assuming is going to be too much money. They're going to be active in free agency. It's going to be not what it was in the Snyder. Serrato days I don't think it's going to be that but I do think that the redskins are going to be aggressive. And they're going to try to sign guys coming off their first contracts to potentially some big contracts Anyway that's it on Redskins and Free Agency. GotTa make you gotTa see where the Trent Williams thing goes. Because that's a big number right if they can free themselves up from that big number At the same time it creates a massive need they tagged sheriff it roughly fifteen million somewhere in that neighborhood probably fourteen five to fifteen million for the upcoming year. I think they have to restructure Ryan Kerrigan. They bring him back at eleven six then they must really believe that he's going to have an impact as a player or it's Dan Snyder saying. We're not getting rid of Ryan Kerrigan. If he doesn't want to restructure that's fine I don't think it would be the latter I think it would be the former and J P mentioned it and we suggested suggested it in the past that maybe you know hand in the dirt for three is better for Carrigan and maybe his best season or seasons are to come and maybe del Rio in Rivera's it that way So there you go All right couple of other things to talk about and then we will run off for the day So over the weekend I know sports. I did watch. I did watch the movie contagion. Have you seen the movie contagion? I have not seen that one. I do know it's in the top ten of Netflix streaming now. The the stories are very similar with one exception. And that is that the virus Is Much more lethal in the movie than this one is right now. But you hear you know social distancing and you hear all of these things and how important it is for the now. Everybody lost their minds and people started shooting each other in the whole world crumbled. I'm basically it's a it's an all star cast. I mean Matt Damon's in the movie and Gwyneth Paltrow's in the movie It's a good movie I mean I I you know the only reason I gave it a shot is my son's like let's. Let's get it on Netflix. Because you know it had you know huge Rotten tomatoes and metacritic. You know ratings. I guess it was considered to be a really really good movie. It's it's it's it's pretty good. I'M NOT GONNA lie to you I I I. I enjoy kate. Winslet's in the movie she's lovely Jude Law's in the movie So it was a It was quite the The lineup this. I didn't realize how old the movie was. It's two thousand eleven eleven eight mount a Laurence Fishburne's in the movie he's really good So anyway I saw that movie over the weekend. The other thing I did is I had not watched the ESPN documentary basketball. A love story. Had you seen any of it? I haven't seen it. I did see it was on yesterday and it's on all weekend long. I'm going end up pretty much. Binging prior all thirty for thirty s at some point over the next month so I ended up watching a lot of it maybe four or five hours of it over the weekend Those of you. That don't know what it is a love story. was Came out in two thousand eighteen. It was directed by Dan Chorus. I don't know who that is distributed by. Espn it was a twenty hour series and it featured sixty two short stories all basketball related And it was basically the sixty. Two short stories are delivered through ten episodes. So they're six to seven episodes of short stories in each episode of this series. I tuned in in saw four to five hours of it. I really want to go back and watch the whole thing and I. It looks like we're GonNa have an opportunity to do that you know the NBA is essentially said. It's now mid to late June best-case So there were a couple of stories that I stay tuned in for in watched and I wanted to share them with you because the some of these are going to ring Your memory and they're going to remember these in some of you who are too young. That don't remember these things. They are still very good stories One of them was just the story of Rick. Berry in the nineteen seventy five golden state warriors and the reason that that sort of hit home is because they won the finals in nineteen seventy five over the Washington bullets and this particular episode Was really about sort of the nineteen seventies NBA and Aba also and they featured on the they featured the seventy five in seventy six NBA finals in particular. Because they were wild and unexpected in nineteen seventy five. The bullets beat the mighty Boston Celtics in the Eastern Conference finals. The Washington bullets right with Elvin Hayes. And Wes unseld and Kevin Porter and Mike reardon and Nick weatherspoon and those were the first teams. I remember as a Kid. All right and rooting for they were the biggest favorite in NBA history in the NBA finals to lose. It's still considered to be rick. Barry's always called this. He quit he played for the warriors. The biggest Nba Finals upset. Ever the bullets were prohibitive favorites. Everybody predicting that they would sweep. The upstart warriors led by Rick. Perry Rick Perry was a great player a great NBA player a difficult teammate. By all accounts incredibly arrogant and fond of himself but was a great NBA score. I've had him on the show. Radio show a couple times. He's an outstanding guest with with a phenomenal memory and the ability to really tell great stories but anyway those NBA finals. Were supposed to be an easy four-game sweep for the bullets. Well Golden State won the first three games and they came back to landover the capital. Center for game four and the story about this particular game which is featured in this short story about the nineteen seventy five. Nba Finals is that the bullets were so frustrated with Rick. Perry that they basically had a plan to take him out and when I say take him out take him out. Physically Mike. Reardon was a small forward for the bullets. Then all right. Tough Guy. Six six Good shooter left-hander. And basically they agreed that reardon would takeout. Berry. And when I say take him out like physically try to hurt him to take him out of the game so west unsettled. Who is the hall of Fame Center on the bullets and for those of you? That don't know sunsilk six seven Strong as an ox. One of the most feared players of that particular. Nba Era. He was no nonsense. You did not mess with wes. Unseld he he. He gave you the the most difficult pick. A set. Hard picks had the outlet pass that he became famous for Kevin. Love Outlet Pass was patterned. After Wes unseld in Fact Kevin. Love's middle name is Wesley named after Wes unseld his father played with wes. Unseld in Baltimore Anyway the plan was to take out to take out rick. Perry but wes unseld told Mike reardon. If you take Rick Barry Out Al adults who is the coach of the warriors is GonNa come off? The bench is going to try to beat your ass. Al Adams was this incredibly. He's an incredible physical specimen feared and he was the coach. This was the matchup first matchup in. Us sports history to feature to African Americans as the head coach as the head. Coach is Casey. Jones was the bullets coach and als- was the coach of the warriors. Anyway early in the game and they've got the film of it. Rewritten GOES AFTER. Berry with a punch to the back of the head. This is the way this game was played back. Then he punched him in the back of the head and here comes AL adults as unsold predicted off the bench heading for rewritten and unsettled. Uc jumps right in the middle of it. Stop Saddles dead distracts will the West said. It was hard because he was a strong dude. Adults gets kicked out of the game. Reardon gets kicked out of the Game Berry stays in the game. Golden STATE WINS GAME FOR TO COMPLETE THE SWEEP WITH AL ADULTS. Their coach in the locker room and they swept the bullets in. Berry with phenomenal They couldn't figure them out. They tried to take him out physically and he he wasn't eating took the punch to the back of the head but continued to play and that completed one of the biggest upsets in NBA history. They then followed with the nineteen seventy six. Nba Finals the next year. Which was Phoenix? Against Boston and game. Five in the Boston Garden. I'll just I'll just tell you one of the most memorable. Nba Games in history triple overtime NBA game. Five to two is the series Gar. Heard remember him when he coached the The wizards he hit a shot at the end of the second overtime after the game was supposedly over fans stormed the court. One of the fans took on one of the referees Richie powers and punched him all. Hell broke loose in the Boston Garden. It was nine o'clock tip on a Friday night. They set it up by talking about how drunk everybody was But anyway if you ever WanNa see an incredible finish to a game Brent Musburger and Rick Barry Actually on the call you know Google game. Five Boston Phoenix nineteen. Seventy six and look. What happened from the end of regulation on? It was crazy so then there were other stories. And I'll tell you a two others real quickly and then we'll go for the day There was a lot in this In what I saw over the four five hours that I watched about Bill Walton. In the my favorite story about Bill Walton was told by Denny crum Denny Crum was the Longtime Louisville Coach Right Louisville as they say down there. I think you won. Two National Championships looked at up seemingly national championships. Danny Crumlin at Louisville He won the IRV Ellison over the Duke Final and eighty six and I think he was the coach of the team that beat. Ucla in the final two time champions time all right one second vital force six final. Ease a Helluva coach. I mean he's the one that developed Louisville into a national power. Yeah so he was John. Wooden top assistant at Ucla. During the UCLA. Dominant years of the sixties into the early seventies denny crum's was called by a UCLA. Alum who lived in San Diego. Say you've got to come watch this kid. He's a red headed freckle faced. You Know Center. He leaves plane down here in San Diego for a public school. You gotta come watch him so denny crum gets in his car. Drives down to San Diego to watch. Bill Walton played for the first time he had I think he said he had thirty something points. They won by fifty and his stats for the year. At that point he was averaging over thirty game and shooting eighty four percent from the field. That's what Walton was shooting in. Highschool chromosome came back told the Great John. Wooden coach. I've just watched the greatest high school basketball player. I have ever seen wooden told him to stop exaggerating. Said Stop saying stupid things Danny come on and he said coach. He's the Greatest High School Basketball Player. I've ever watched his parents are cal alums and if we don't move fast we're going to have to play against him twice a year and that's going to be a big problem. Well the rest is history. They signed Walton Walton always dreamt about playing for Ucla and they went on the longest winning streak in college. Basketball history. Eighty eight games before they lost Notre Dame and part of that eight eighty eight game win streak included a game to start the nineteen seventy three seventy four season against Maryland in Pauley Pavilion Maryland was ranked fourth. Ucla was ranked number one. Ucla's win streak at that point with seventy something games Maryland had already been being coached by lefty drizzle. Had already he had already proclaimed that they would become the ucla of the east. Aaron in December of Nineteen seventy-three. This was a massive sporting event on the national level Maryland at Ucla to open up the nineteen seventy-three season. Billy Packer tells the story about the game. It's lefty UCLA at East at Pauley number. One against number four and Maryland lost the game sixty five to sixty four. They had the ball at the end with a chance to win the game. John Lucas got trapped in the corner and threw. It threw the ball away and they ended up losing sixty five to sixty four Nc State would later go on To beat UCLA in the national semifinals which ended the seven year national championship championship streak of Ucla. The other quick Walton story was told by Jack Ramsay because they had a whole Short story on the on the seventy seven trailblazers. Dr John Jack. Ramsay who coached the seventy seven trailblazer steam call build call. Bill Walton the most skilled center in the history of the game by the way something. I've heard many people say over the years and the greatest passing big man of all time. We missed out on what could have been the greatest career for center of all time because Bill Walton got injured. He injured his feet had multiple surgeries. Came back. You know in nineteen eighty six and was part of that Celtics? Eight hundred sixteen where he came off the bench for Robert Parish but Ramsey said Walton's the most skilled center in the history of the game. And then there was one more Sort of short story that I saw over the weekend it was. It was my favorite because it included one of my all time favorite players. George the ICEMAN GERVIN. Who is one of the great scorers in the history of the NBA and one of the short stories on this basketball? A love story series was about nineteen seventy eight the end of the regular season and the battle for the regular season scoring title between the ICEMAN and David Thompson. This is an incredible basketball day in very. Interestingly there's not video or film of either one of the two games at these guys played does not exist so in this particular short story part of the episode. It's all animated and then with the two players you know interviewed about that day. So what happened on that day? Is David Thomson? Overtook the scoring lead early in the day by scoring seventy three points at Cobo arena against the Detroit Pistons. Gervin 's San Antonio Spurs team played at night. They were playing New Orleans. In the Superdome New Orleans was the jazz before the jazz became. The Salt Lake became the Utah Jazz and they moved to Salt Lake City. They were playing in New Orleans and they played their home games in the superdome. So that's the final game of the year for the Spurs Gervin told before the game the David Thompson went for seventy three and if he is going to retain the scoring title for the year he needs fifty nine in this game. They had already clinched the playoff berth. The coach was Doug Moe at the time all of his teammates said ice. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA keep feeding you're going to get fifty nine. Hit fifty three at halftime. You have to understand if you don't if you if you don't know George Gervin. He was a six eight skinny to guard. He's the one of the greatest and most entertaining players in the history of the game. He certainly one of the greatest scorers of all time. He had fifty three in the first half. So we only need six in the third quarter. And he's telling the story and he said what was really cool about it. He said in the first half Pete Marriage Pistol Pete. Played for the jazz was on the bench because he had been ruled out of. That game was injured and during the whole first half. He's rooting George. Gervin on ice. Keep going keep going you. You gotta get to fifty nine rooting against his own team. And George Gervin looks into the camera and said you know what that was said that was to artists communicating with each other to the greatest appreciating each other pistol. Pete cheering me on against his own team so anyways fifty three at halftime he only needs six. Gets the six quickly at fifty nine so he retains the scoring title. The coach says Doug Moss says will take you out now and he says coach Leamy and let me get a couple more just in case they miscalculated so we got four more ended up with sixty three in thirty three minutes and took a seat now. He thinks had he really wanted to. He could broken Wiltz record on that particular night that the they were feeding him over and over again that he could have gone out and gotten at that point you know wilt had the hundred he would have needed forty eight to forty seven to tie it forty eight to break it. And he said he thinks he could have gotten a hundred that night but they were gearing up for the playoffs. And that wasn't the goal that particular night they did. You know have them retain the scoring title but George Gervin? I had him on the radio show with Cooley at Jack. Nicklaus's tournament out in northern Virginia. Three years ago. Maybe honestly one of the greatest. There are a lot of interviews. I've done over the years I've been like I really enjoyed that. But a nun that have been like when I just sat there and I'm like wow that Gervin was one of my childhood guys. He was one of my guys you know everybody was out trying to be the ice man on the playground in the suburbs anyway. That's what we were doing. He was a phenomenal scorer and really never got over the Hump and it's funny because he got me looking at Gervin video and films and different shows and Bill Simmons did this thing for I guess it was his podcast but there was a video of it where he sat down with. Gervin for like forty five minutes. Gervin never got past the conference finals. When San Antonio is in the east they lost the bullets the Washington bullets including in a seventh game when he was when when San Antonio got moved to the West. They lost to the Lakers in the Western Conference Finals. A COUPLE OF TIMES. He never got that high profile. Nba Finals spot. He did say in that thing with Bill. Simmons that the closest he ever got in the biggest in the most painful loss was the seventh game of the Eastern Conference finals in nineteen seventy nine when they lost to the bullets and overtime. And said you know Bobby Dandridge made the game winner to win that game for Washington and he said Bobby d never gets the credit he deserves. He was a great player. Which by the way he's one hundred percent right about anyway I'm GonNa you know over the next days and weeks ahead. I'm going to figure out how to consume that whole thing because it was really well done in I looked through the list of all the other short stories and episodes that they have It was its first rate in terms of the way it's done. There's apparently a An episode of Twenty Minute Short Story on John Thomson's America you know featuring John Thompsons. Georgetown Hoyas Hoyas in how they redefined. East Coast College basketball. I love to watch that one There there's one apparently on Bobby Knight that's phenomenal There's one on the Lakers and the Celtics and apparently is very good. But I think we've seen cat. We've seen a lot of documentaries on magic and bird. You Know Lakers in the Celtics over the years but anyway I loved what has watching I'd not really seen any of it But it was really entertaining. Do we have any news while we've been sitting here? A few things. One is the draft which we kind of heard rumors about it but the draft is officially not going to be public. It's not going to be in Vegas. It will absolutely happen that time though. Twenty two twenty two twenty three to twenty fifth Nothing too big from a sports perspective but in Maryland all bars restaurants and movie theaters and gyms will be closed as five. Pm This afternoon. Wow bars and restaurants will be allowed to do to go service. But no one will be allowed to eat in a restaurant or good jim so I did have another conversation with my CDC neighbor yesterday. When I hear about it. Sure Ahmed it out. They don't know they don't really know that's the thing that you know we're going to be okay. You know but the old saying this too shall pass that you know. My mother's always used that expression. Well I think this too shall pass. I'm not an alarmist. I didn't go up and stock up on months worth of canned goods and toilet paper and paper towels and cleaning equipment. We didn't get some stuff. I'M NOT GONNA lie to you. We got some. We tried to get as much cleaning equipment is we could get. We did get a bunch of food for a few days But we didn't come on. We're GONNA make it. We've made it through much worse but at the same time. I don't think that they really know for sure. How bad dis- could get so Biko chewable? You know it's the young people that are out and about you know they gotta be. And that's why they're probably closing these restaurants and bars down. Because Saturday night my oldest son went out to dinner downtown instead. The place places packed downtown. And it's you know I look. I think if I were their age I probably would be sort of thinking the same way I mean we. All you know at a younger age. Were much more sort of self absorbed unless coach Oh John Crime has this time. Has that the redskins are letting Eric Flowers get two free agency. So maybe I'm not going to turn out to be as dumb as Franco thought was at Franko who tweeted me last week. Tell me what what an idiot I was to suggest that air flowers would end up in. Cleveland You know we'll see Kenyan drake also got the transition tag. I know there was some thought that so what does that. How many first rounders? If you sign him I don't think it's I think it's because it's the non-exclusive exclusivist two first rounders on the down. The non franchise exclusive. You can't negotiate then. I there is no compensation for you. Just have right to match and another small thing which I attacked yesterday and we can talk about more tomorrow but because they sports books are so desperate to get anything on the board Win Totals for next year. Came out redskins are at five. Sit down from five and a half. All right we're done for the day Stay safe stay healthy Back Tomorrow Tommy will be with us.

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1-on-1 | Rex Chapman

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He scored nearly ten thousand points in the NBA man could get buckets was the first traffic and the first player signed by the Charlotte Hornets and he looked great in those -til, Younis. Any brings smiles to twitter's faces all over the world in time where we need it. The most I'm wearing a block charge shirt right now with us. Is Rex rex. Thank you for joining us. Why Guy has got the Repin the the gear? Scouted. Dot Com. How you been man, I'm happy to be on the show as good as I can be. There's no complaints over here. Okay stop complaining a while ago, I I am enjoying. Seeing your face everywhere I gotta be honest. Oh God you as tweets. My friends don't feel the same. I've missed basketball I've missed. The guys were dire straits in on that front. You know we're we're. We're all H. Absolutely. Wha- Since you bring it up well, what do you think of? The whole bubble idea in Orlando next month. Oh Man I'm trying to remain optimistic about IT I. Want it to work. I just. This virus. It's I. Don't know how you're GonNa all. Suppose we start playing this, and then you know you get into it and Lebron. You know gets cove it. Is, tested for covert. I just don't. I mean do. We think that we're going to actually have a bubble of? Nobody in their nobody's GonNa get in there, too i. it just seems optimistic. But I'm pulling forward. I Miss Basketball. I just also want everyone to be healthy right? Yeah, it's. It's kind of hard to see. People not leaving the bubble and coming back in and things are sort of good in the orange, county area, and the Orlando while Disney area sort of good. It's kind of thing to say. But the numbers aren't bad there. It's just it's crazy to think that we're also projecting. Yeah seven months or seven weeks down the road. This is yeah, we have no idea. It's all kind of yeah. It's very fluid as they say you know what's fluid, rex, what you start throwing up videos on your twitter account. And in an instant less than seven weeks in an instant people start. Following you and re tweeting your videos. I think it was the beginning of twenty nineteen. When he started throwing up videos I know listen I know it's not your favorite topic to talk about your twitter. But we've got some young people who let's get it. Yeah, some people may not know you as basketball player I saw I gotTa familiarize them with you and who you are, they just know your twitter account so I gotta ask how to block or charge starting. How did it? How did it just become an avalanche in erupt into now like almost a million people following? Is, just so it's so weird In. Think about ten years ago Jim Rome was a buddy of mine. And he said man you should get on twitter. And I thought twitter was the dumbest thing in the world, and still Kinda isn't. So he talked me into getting on there and I was on there for two or three years probably. And just snarky snarky. Can I cuss. Start Snarky bullsh- just you know like twitter is arguing with people and and whatnot, and then I got in trouble. You know have have had a painkiller addiction for head for fourteen or fifteen years I've been clean for about five years, but I took a break during that time naturally after Rehab in like twenty fourteen and I wasn't on twitter at all for a couple years then started kind of dabbling again at posted a a stupid video that people. Thought was kind of funny or clever. I, guess At the beginning of last year and I probably went from about seventy, five, seventy, seventy five thousand followers to you know there's probably three quarters of a million on there now. It's just the dumbest kind of you. Couldn't you couldn't plan it for sure. It's just weird to very weird. There's there's people in offices while not anymore, but in virtual offices right now, saying to each other, we go viral. How do we go viral and no wrecks? Did it just thrown a crazy? It's crazy. You know it's. got a crazy Last year I went to get my sec. Media credential an Nashville and go down to the area. You're supposed to go to there. Were you know eight to ten in turns down there working for the SEC that probably went school at Vandy. And I gave my. Id and they looked at me and I was late. I was trying to get into. The game solves kind of rushing in being shitty. Anyway so I handed in my ID and they kind of looked at it. They just a couple of showed it to other people and one of the guys comes out and says are you rex Chapman I said yeah, he said the guy from twitter. And, this was at the SEC basketball tournament. you know so? These kids had no idea that I've ever played basketball. which is Kinda Cool Is kind of cool. Yeah, it is kind of refreshing. Yeah, we. Pretend to be young and into young people things on this show, and so I think there are some young people who are feeling the same way right now. Ten thousand points in the NBA goes. A Bali hung thirty nine on. Ninety, five ninety six, yeah. So silly man so silly liked. His life is weird. Is Weird. That's a great quote. If anyone. If you take anything from this podcast, those three words man life is weird. Life is weird and life is hard does make no mistake about it. There's nothing easy about it, so you must get. Hundreds thousands of videos sent to you a day that you have to just filter through. Do the filtering yourself right, and then you post it yourself. Yeah I do and I. It's much easier now on. There are other half dozen to a dozen. People scattered all over I mean probably well. A couple of other countries that I've just met through twitter, who send me videos now? They're generous. just people that know Kinda. What? Other people like on my stupid channel so I'll just I'll get the video now and then just sort of think of a caption to go with it. For the most part, but yeah, it's it's great at first I was spending more time trying to find these blocker charge videos, which by the way they're great, I guess, but you can only. Hit people over the head with people getting her at some point Iberian started I still do locker charge from time to time and We got that silly show on adult swim now, but For the for the most part you know I try to. put up dog videos and feel good kind of stuff. Especially right now. Pandemic all of the you know civil unrest and and whatnot so people. I think people want to just take a break from what's going on outside our homes, and and just find a minute or two to make them laugh or smile. Yeah, because I think coming through the timeline is a lot of you. Call it a stupid account, but there is a lot of those feel good moments and people being happy and what I do see coming through my timeline. Are People saying? Just, a minute watch this right it's it's not a person. Get kneecapped, it's. It's a feel good moment, yeah! Last question. About the twitter account. What are the rules because I remember months months ago when we talked about a real briefly. You. Do have a couple of rules. What are the rules? Yeah. Yeah. You can't die no dying. I. I don't know if there are any other rules. I think doesn't. You can't you can't die on there and I? Don't like show show anybody that gets. Messed up to a point where they're not gonNA, be okay at some point so yeah, at first I pushed pushed it a pushed. At times and you know you find out very quickly. you know what what people can and want to look at what they do not want to look yet. So I'm KINDA WEIRD I have A. I watching gory stuff doesn't really bother me. But I know it does most people. Well, let's talk about why I really wanted to have you on the show? Because you are speaking out against racism, and for the hardships that black people face in our country, you wrote very spirited article in the Lexington, Herald leader. About growing up in Kentucky playing ball with a lot of black teammates, and how they were treated differently, how the police treated them differently, so just a sort of generic I question. What drove you to speak out? Well! You know. Stevie Jackson. Stephen Jackson was my rookie. He Rookie and Phoenix when I was playing there, he didn't make our team, but Stephen and George Flint. They they're boys grew up. Together Steve is my boy. seeing what happened last week? in Minneapolis I don't know that I'll get over. I've had the privilege of learning about racism I. I don't I've not experienced it. In a negative way you know as much as many. Of US white people that think we woke or you're never never gonNA get it. You Never GonNa get what it's like. And I was just I'm sick of it. I'm sick of it and. You know there's kind of this. I. You know the I think there was a misconception a lot around where I live now that that we had a black president, and then that was in that was gonNA be the end of racism. Well, no also had we elected Hillary Clinton as president. Sexism wouldn't have ended I mean it's like a marriage you got to commit, and then you've got to continue to work at it. And you're in Kentucky Right now. I'm in Kentucky and you know. Just, talking about the systemic part of it I was lucky in that I grew up in a town of about fifty thousand people that had a lot of black people in. My Dad played basketball with and against those those black is his his peers growing up. I had a built in bunch of friends down in the projects that from the simoes seven or eight. You know I'd be I. Would ride my bike there or be taken there for the weekend and I'd stay the weekend, so and I also did that with my white friends in the country so I really did experience a lot of that and what I can say, I was lucky from a basketball perspective because honest to goodness. When I left Kentucky and you know and would go to basketball camps outside the state. Most of the kids that I was playing against. They weren't as good as the guys. I grew up with playing against and with in my hometown, so a that really helped me, but be. It also taught me something else around thirteen years old. You start. If you're any good basketball, you start getting these. You know invitations to go to basketball camp. That's how it was back in the day anyway. That invitation wasn't. It wasn't a cop thing. You still had to pay to go, but you go and there'd be college scouts there well. My Dad was local basketball coach at the college. It was like two hundred dollars to go to Camp I got to go to camp. None of my teammates did none of my friends in the projects got to go. There was no way they were GONNA go. it was just it was an advantage that I had that they did and. When I think back I I didn't give a about school. I didn't but my folks. Were there saying. Hey, you got to make your grades or you can't. Not even going to be able to play basketball well. My, my friends in the hood. Their. You know their mom might not come home at night. They might not know their dad. They might maybe living with their grandparents. Who you know have already raised seven kids so. You know I would go stay in the projects and you know. For a weekend and there would be you know eight people in a two bedroom place with no air conditioning. Ninety five degrees outside all the windows are up. Privileged. The I had my friends did and I'm just tired of dancing around the issue. That's all tasks. Sorry to go on off on. Do do not apologize I. think that's. I, think you just said you're tired of it, and it's time to speak out and I found it interesting Just to try and make things a little bit postitive here because if there is any. Little Spark This little ray of hope is in all this. It's that. People are finding their voice to be able to speak out and I. Even I I read a quote from you I. Know It's weird to read Their quote but I'm going to read it to you. This is this is from March. you talk to ESPN's Ryan McGee on March third and. You weren't speaking out, and this was obviously before George, Floyd you said I have strong opinions about certain things but I realized at some point that there are a lot of smarter people out there the commenting on that stuff. People with political science, degrees and politicians, doctors and lawyers. All the stuff that I think I have a strong opinion about doesn't matter. They don't WanNa. Hear that for me. That's the end of the quote and I know jd on on this podcast. You're myself. We all sort of feel that way as well I'll go on twitter and I'll see somebody have an opinion about race about something and I'll say well. It's already there I. Don't have to see it, but. I mean that's the scariest part about being a human being for me. I mean one of the biggest things is that if you don't feel like you have a voice? You're. No. It's it's. It's just so dwarfing. It's so it's so difficult to deal with, and it's I. Find it very very inspiring to hear you go from that to what you're doing now. Yeah, and you know I really don't Wanna I don't WanNa. Be doing this I I really don't I really don't but I I'm with you. There is a ray of hope now. When I think back, I could have I had the same opinions many of the same opinions when I was eighteen. I could have said something. I could, and I did because everyone was telling me. Hey, man, you know that might affect affect your pocketbook and your image and this and that and this and that. It took me you know actually. I did say something about it about fifteen years ago Kinda, you know. made its way around and then. DIED, but it's taken me till on fifty two to really come out and say you know some things and look. I feel qualified to do this. If I know three things as I know, basket vice, stay in my lane. I'll I'll be alright. I know basketball I know drugs. OPIOID. and I know race from an a white athletes perspective. my own. You know experiences. I don't have a problem speaking out on any of that stuff. I've experienced it I know I know what I'm talking about. I'M NOT GONNA. Del into other areas politically or otherwise because I don't know. About him. So I'M GONNA try to stay in my lane and look I'm GonNa hit people with facts and I'm not going to give them. You know my opinion on opioids I'm GonNa hit them with the facts. I'm GonNa hit them with the facts racially book because. I can't believe that we're here. I cannot believe that we're even here talking about this stuff again. However. The silver lining is that I've not seen people this upset. Racially since I was a kid, you know. In the sixties and seventies, so this I think ultimately. Hopefully we're going to get to A. Better spot. but again I'll and I'll say it plainly. George Floyd death as the march. The black lives matter march was going on ran fall. One of our still talking senators was in Washington. Trying to block an blocking anti lynching legislation. And look man that can't stand that you know and people don't talk about him like they talk about Steve King who they call racist. What are we talking about here blocking making you WanNa? Make it easier for people who lynch black people to not go to prison. What are we even talking about? This is I. Mean I feel like I'm taking crazy pills again, antennas? You said you didn't want to talk about politics, but I was going to bring that up as well because I've heard you talk about. That bill and I know there's people out there that say hey. I, don't WANNA deal with. With politics, but it's hard to sometimes separate yourself and sometimes block out what the Hell is going on all that noise on twitter and actually see what's happening. What legitimate things are happening to change our world, the laws and and the voting spreading in and that that is bonkers. What Wall what you just said, the and I and I've read about it and It is it isn't bonkers. Not I mean. In America well into two twenty twenty. One person going. Up Bill Yeah. Who are you serving there? Yeah, I! I mean I live in Kentucky. I'm born and raised here. I don't know one person and I've talked to everyone over the last week I. Don't know one person that goes. Yeah, you know he'd really doing a good thing for Kentucky in there what you're doing a good thing for absolutely no body, nobody and that's the truth I've never I've never experienced the time in my life where the leadership. That you know as we've all played sports. We've all been on teams. You know leaders who inspire and those who don't. The best leaders inspire you to be better than you ever think that you can be this leadership. Actually think about it inspires people to be worse than they already are. And I can't stand. I can't sit by. Doesn't come on. This is a joke and if anybody doesn't think, please please look. Gregg, Popovich as quote from a couple of weeks ago, that dude, if you ever want to know why he can inspire people during a twenty second time out or a halftime that dude as hall of fame quote. Waiting to happen what what an unbelievable job! He did of breaking down our leadership. I appreciate that I appreciate you Your passion there and and I know we're all trying to be. And I'm in the same boat I'm a I'm a privileged white man and I am trying to be as. Quote Unquote woke is possible I am I'm reading the books that are on the New York Times bestseller list. I guess that's a good sign. That everybody is. Pretending to read anyways, but I'll hit you with the tough question about that in your world. Go ahead. I was GONNA say people keep asking me doing I say. I'm I'm white? What could be better I mean? I was very white here. living in really white world right now I mean good Lord. What could be better a? Heterosexual Adult White Man I hit the lottery. Is this. Is there any? Any advice any. You could, you would say to someone who. I mean not just. Isn't racist, BUT SOMEBODY WE WANNA turn anti-racists to help to be like what you're doing right now. You know. Someone asked me other day. What I thought about Roger Goodell's. You know flip flop and I said pathetic. Pathetic, but okay good and they asked me about drew brees and I said. Disappointing! I said but. Listen Man I've been pathetic before. and. You're not judged. You're never judged. People. You shouldn't be judged by your worst moment. The only only way you should be judged negatively for that is if you don't do something. To make that narrative change if you don't try to do better and be better and learn from it so whereas I, thought it was pathetic and disappointing. All Right? Here's where we are and so far. You know they've taken the right steps. So you know, let's let's try to learn and grow from it. Right NASCAR's banning confederate flags from the rats ended. That's an analyst I that something snarky. Last night on twitter. I'm sure like. Count me unimpressed. It's twenty twenty. But Hey man, but it's a start. It is a start and I. Applaud Them I. Do you know it's like I remember Chris Rock Zanu longtime ago. You shouldn't be praised for something. You're supposed to be doing anyway, but it is a start and at the step and guess what they'll get some backlash over this from their fans. You just wait and watch it. It's not gonNA, be seamless. No, there's I think there's already one drive. Yeah said he's quitting. Driver who by the way never won a race ever? Look it up. He's quitting and he had the courage to walk away from sport that he never ever wanted. That's that's really that's courageous. Headlines on his way out. It's. It's it's obviously it's twenty twenty, and it sounds nuts that there were confederate flags at Nascar races in the first place. But I think that goes back to your point there about being judged If you can't turn things round, right, you know if if Nascar said Oh. No, no, no, you can't take away our quota rivalry our legacy. Everybody out, there can take step if a if a sports league or a sports organization can take a step like Roger Goodell did. LIKE NASCAR did. An, individual can as well so there's a I'm with you. I'm with a low. And I WANNA. Say something I, there's not a chance, not a chance in hell. I don't have a team, but if my if I'm on a team if I'm playing in the League right now, my teammates Neil Neil with him come on man as not even a question and it's GonNa. Take somebody doing something major on a big stage. For that to happen, but what I? I appreciate so much. What the what the black football players did! In getting together and putting out a message because it put pressure, it put pressure on Roger Goodell now. man, this is the whole anthem. Thing is never been about the flag I every time. Somebody says that I WANNA say it's about the injustice stupid. That's an but I can't so you've gotta try to look if if it was about the anthem and the flag the restaurant, the restrooms and concession stands would be closed while they did all of it. You wouldn't be able to take during the anthem. No, you wouldn't. If that, if it was self, important it, you, you just would, and now the football players put their league on blast and the League. The League step to the forefront and had to do something and I applaud those players, but here's what I WANNA say. We can think of the handful of players who. Who Knelt over the last few years? we know some of their names. A lot more players in this for a fact. A lot more players wanted to kneel, but when you're playing in the NFL and your average ah life expectancy in that league career expectancy is three years or whatever. There are other things that you have. You must take into consideration, and if you think guys weren't worried about their pocketbooks over there. You're. Mistaken and They should be rightfully, so we all I remember making decisions based on that when I was playing, I didn't have to have to make this kind of decision. Though so I I applaud. I applaud these football players I really do. The football players obviously made Roger Goodell. Make that statement, mom, they did and. When I'm saying this I'm equally as disappointed as I was in how NFL's handled over last year, I couldn't be more proud of our league. I couldn't I really couldn't in the NBA. from Corona virus to racial issues I mean we are at the. We're at the front of all this stuff, and it makes me proud proud proud to have played basketball in this in this league, and you're close, obviously with the the Kentucky wildcats and doing work for them. How do you see the outlook on sort of college front this coming season both from? A put the basketball side just from this injustice standpoint. Will we see that type of behavior from that type of action from from young players, which is obviously a lot to ask kids that that's a lot to ask. and I don't know. That we will or not Whether we will or not that. I think that remains to be seen I. Do know this that I'm GonNa I'll be marching on Saturday with a bunch of basketball players, current and former here in here in Lexington, so you know times are changing and you better get on board and keep up with, or you're gonNA. Get left behind. Yeah and you have done. A? Lot of fund raising for Charities Through Blocker Charge for K Y. K Y for K Y DOT COM got not for four. K Y. Works there. But you raised a ton of money for people trying to cope with corona virus. Related hardships through your rex. Chapman, COVID! Nineteen Relief, fund I think it was after three days or one hundred fifty K.. What had to get up to. We got asking to Brag, but this is important stuff. No, we got. We got to around two, two, thirty, two, hundred, thirty, two, hundred, forty grand. We've we've given away most of it at this point and when I say this, this is the coolest part about the whole twitter thing, you know so I was down on my luck for a while I was a lottery pick in the NBA I. Probably made forty million dollars playing, and for you know four years ago. I was living on friends' couches staying in my car a couple of nights so I know what it's like to be. Scared and alone in down and feeling like you know. You're desperate sometimes. You just need a hot meal to get through the night. We we gave money to. You. Know places here in Kentucky in New York New Jersey, for meals. You, know food banks and. First responders key that that's the good stuff. And all of that came just as a result of this you know. Twitter and people were so generous so You know not a lot makes me happy that that makes the APP. Okay. We've got more to get to, but first a word from our sponsors. Warning this ad contains mild language which some viewers may find disturbing. Listener's discretion is advised. Sunday scary aren't scary. They're the opposite. They are specially formulated CBD gummy vitamins that are super consumable and easy to take wherever you may find yourself. During the scary time, the specially formulated CBD products can help you with. Quieting your mind. Concentrating on what matters in straight Chilin and we're doing a lot of that these days. Right. You can get twenty five percent off your first order with the code no dunks at Sunday, scary dot com, that's twenty five percent off your first order at Sunday scary dot com by entering code, no Dunks, or it asks for Coupon Code on the checkout page. find out what product might be best for you. Go to Sunday, scary dot, com and use code. Doe Ducks. You just reminded me we were talking about. The national anthem shouldn't be in in the bathroom. if it was important a close bathrooms, they closed concessions. You know what I don't like. was people chewing gum during the anthem I? Don't know maybe I'm just a traditionalist. Really Yeah, and you know what it reminded me of a story of us. When we were working together I'd Chew Gum all the time I know. Yeah, I mean that doesn't bother me. He can chew I want but. During the anthem. Not during the anthem. I don't know what okay I've never heard this one before. But it reminded me of story when. We were sitting together. We're working all night. We're watching games all night for for the bounce. You know where I'm getting or. I have yet, so you're sitting on one side of me. Ryan hollins former player current media personality is on the other side and. You guys requested drink something. Not An alcohol drank a drink earlier in the night. You guys get whatever you got in your mugs and at some point. Hours later Ryan and says. There's gum in my mug. Why I think while we were on air and are, we went right to break, and because I had tasted right at that moment when he said that I had tasted my drink just before, and it wasn't my drink, I was like somebody poured. It was like somebody poured Ryan's drink in the my drink, something like that, and anyway he ended up with my gum in his mouth and I I. Guess. We laughed for the rest of the show, right? Because somehow the mugs got switched I. Think and you like to have your gum on the edgier all in my drink. In your drink. I thought. It was like your Mug for later save it for later, but you just throw it in there I. Want Peace All Day. That's what kind of added. I am one piece and I keep it in my drink when I go. When I eat or do whatever yeah, I've that stupid. I don't like Flavor Mike Gun what? I don't like the flavor of Gum. I just don't like it, but I like the doing part. So chew all the flavor out of it, and then put it in my drink when I've got to go on TV. That is hilarious. We should. That's the next thing unflavored gum. Yeah, we're adding for ad aches. But not. Must not be chewed during the National Anthem Impossible that you if you put in your mouth the national. You get electrocuted. That would be a great video for blocker. Charge right? There guy who got electrocuted. So I. Know You were close to wes unseld. Yeah, the Great West unseld who recently passed and You mentioned him in your in your article. What did the WES UNSELD mean to you? man he. He really just taught me so much about. About basketball, but he's from my hometown or my home state He played around the time my dad was playing and then for four years. He was my coach in Washington. And, West had a real rough exterior. If you look at John Thompson, you know kind of intimidating if you didn't know him. Both of those guys John and West. Could, be. The couldn't be in western. have been a sweeter person. Big John's one of the sweetest guys you'll ever know. I mean Seeing seeing their human side and seeing West as human side was one of the best things I've I've ever experienced. He experienced things buried different very differently growing up in this state as like you know the next great thing. I grew up in the state with very different experiences than West had grown up. Exactly the same way as the next great thing and being able to share those things with him. Talk About Race and children, you know. His children were high school age when mine were just being born. things about fatherhood and. Just a great man I'm GonNa Miss. Him I, didn't get to know him. Obviously through basketball watching him play. But everybody sort of like John Thompson interesting. You brought him up just always good words about once West sold so One ask you about that before we go. Are Let, you I'll let you go. You probably gotTA do some. Maybe, some stretches before Saturday before your walk, you keep in shape, actually keep in shape I'm back in the pool now. I I. It was hard there for a couple of months. They'll man you know. The Gym's closed and all the pools were closed so. I was having to walk. You know you get used to your routine and swimming. My routine I'm back in the pool now I feel much much better. Like our producer here J. D. J. D. getting back in the pool. There we go. There, we go, JD. Get them laughs and baby. GotTa do my butterfly there you go I. Stay I, I. Don't I stay away from butterfly I do back breast and free. I don't do butterfly I swam as a kid competitively and was really good at the I am men Kit. Fortunately Butterfly was not last, and I was a great breadth breaststroker. Kids would catch up to me on the butterfly, and the not is a smoke of in the restroom. Well we'll let you go rex, I know we can direct people to your twitter campaign. Is there anything else out people's attention to? No not really just. M- mainly. pay attention to this. This black lives matter stuff you know. We. Basketball's a tough sport to to have. Racist it's tough to be a racist then or be racist and be associated with basketball at a at at an older level. I feel very fortunate. I'm very appreciative of NBA Family and my college family and all the guys I grew up with and just I mainly I. Just WanNa be there again. We can only be so woke. Man, we don't. There's no way we can get it. Be An ally for all of our friends and brothers and sisters. Who who we know FOR NOT WHITE? The, ally! It's it sorry and blocker charged Thursday nights live ten o'clock. Let's go adult swim DOT COM. On Swim Adult Swim Dot Com. Yeah, they'll swim get the APP. Get to get it on your TV and trust me. It's terrible thirty minutes, but it's better than they could about the news. APPRECIATE IT REX? Thanks, guys. That's it for us. We will be back Friday to make predictions about this NBA bubble or just h and a talk about basketball. Thank you. We'll be back on Friday. You can stay put. Be It. Spend so long.

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Looking Up

PTI

19:28 min | 3 months ago

Looking Up

"Cliff Barnes Company has been fuelling athletes for almost thirty years with their cliff and Luna bars. And this is super cool even during a time when there are no live sports cliff and Luna continue to support female athletes in fact right now there featuring awesome women on their new limited edition cliff bar packaging including soccer star. Megan repeat no tennis legend. Venus Williams Surfer Lakey Peterson skateboarder Jordan. Barrett Climber Ashim aspera she and Mountain biker. Katharina NASH CHECK OUT. All these awesome new packages for yourself in store online at cliff bar dot Com radio man the attic episode fifty seven. We'll we're going to begin with optimism around the NBA. They are hopeful to restart this season. Adam silver was on a call with a bunch of the owners when he was reported to be increasingly positive. So I would ask you. Is this reason to be optimistic. Tony I don't know I mean I would like to think so my my my first answer. You know my whole adult life from a fairly optimistic person Tony. I've been swayed increasingly by something. Charles Barkley said a couple of days ago and he just sort of enumerated in order of priority. All the difficulties of trying to get this season back on track and Charles has been the only one who said that. Shaquille had some similar sentiments and Charles. Charleston's had ticked. Talked one check after the. How're you going to do this? High GonNa this. How are you going to ensure player safety? What about staff? What about people delivering room service to players? How are you going to manage all of this and control something? That's not controllable in our is. It hasn't been controllable in any culture so far anywhere on the planet. Can you do it so I understand? Nba players want to play the players. All got on a different call and they talked about it and they are endorsing it in all of that. I think makes me optimistic but man with some with some hesitation. Tony I think you can sense in me. I wouldn't be surprised if Adam silver wanted to put this out to just blunt Charles Barkley and Shaquille O'Neal saying scrap the season altogether. They don't have any money to lose in it and I don't think he wants that to gain any momentum you ask yourself. Where are they going to play? Is it going to be a bubble factor? Is it going to be in? Orlando where apparently the MLS wants to play. There's a lot of stuff out there to me. The most important thing here is that there is not just one rung on the ladder that you don't go from Rudy. Gobert testing positive to shutting down all sports in America and so I will from Adam silver if one positive test will shut us down. We probably shouldn't go down this path. That sounds to me like like there. Were more rungs in the ladder that it's not going to shut it down and that is what gives me reason for optimism. Because I don't think you can have it and have no positive tests. I don't think that's possible right. Tony I agree with that. But doesn't Adam Silver's quote there? It's it's realism. That he's touching to me like okay. Everybody thinks they want to have this. But can we have it at? There's a positive test. What do we do? We can't shut it down? I don't know what that leaves us like. You are more optimistic after reading that quote. Yeah I'm saying he's leaving more room to maneuver then. He did the first time. And there's another overarching question. Here is sports and people who play sports. Are they essential to the country right now and I think you could argue yes? I honestly think you could argue. Yes now I argue. This is just as a last point here you take I know a good natured shot at at at Charleston Shack but tone Charlesworth. He has any money or not at stake in this one now his points. You don't want to sit there and try to smack his points down. His points are well considered. And you have to. If you're a commissioner and the players you gotta listen to everything Charles said and go okay. What are we gonNa do this this this this and this and all of those points? I'm sure being talked about in private but I do think when shock and Barclay come out and say. Shut it. Down a commissioner goes. We're not doing that just yet years. Yeah we're GONNA stay with basketball and something that's lighter and more fun you and I talked about this at some wee hours in the morning at least Pacific Time. Espn has released the top ten. After getting the I sixty four for now a top seventy four top ten players of all time in order to Tony Jordan Lebron Kareem Russell. Magic Wilt Bird Dunkin Kobe and Shaquille. O'neal you have any beasts having seen all these guys play in virtually all seventy four. Have you got any beat out with this list particularly in the top ten? Well I don't know who put it together. Nobody asked me so i. I don't know if people put it together. Who are in their twenties and thirties now. Look let me say this. I'm not going to go one through ten and argue. I think the top five or essentially unassailable in whatever order you want as long as Jordan is is one I mean I can see that even though magic is is my guy my sense of it is as an old person. The one guy I think is left out for certain from the top ten is Oscar Robertson. Who was the most complete player in the game for the first thirty forty years that they played basketball? He was magic before magic. He's eleven him in there. But Yeah I'm not gonNA argue. Do you have argument? But they're further back. Tony not of the top ten but I looked in this list and they got like James Harden is ahead of Patrick Ewing. Sorry not happening here. There's three guys who were ahead of Isaiah Thomas in it. You can't have Alan Ivorson ahead of Isaiah Thomas. You can't Steve Nash. I Love Steve Nash. I can't put Steve Nash. Who never made it to the finals. I love them ahead. Isaiah who won twice. It was the best player on that team. John Stockton. You can't have stopped it ahead is. That's three guys in a role they have. And also Tony. I I have Kevin. Garnett ahead of Scottie Pippen. I don't think I would but there are some great ones have. Carl Malone ahead of Moses Malone even by one notch no and the fun of this talk about some omissions no Klay Thompson. No tiny archibald no grant hill know. Dan Isel no Alonzo Mourning. No Chris Mullin the Dream Team the Dream Team out. Sorry I'm Chris Mullin in my list Dwight Howard you and I make fun of him. Sometimes he's going to the hall of fame. No David Thomson. Dan Anybody's list. You just named everybody in America. Who's ever players eight? Hugo gramer nine. You're going down a rabbit hole worrying about people not in the top ten there's one omission of your whole that seventy border there's one omission in the top ten. I mean if you asked me who I would get rid of I would say shack. Not wasn't great but because he's ten and you gotta make room for somebody. I believe when this is said and done there is no contemporary players in the top. Ten except Lebron and Lebron is in his mid to late thirties and his racist. Basically run steph curry and Kevin Durant. One of them is going to be in this if it's not taken today when their careers are over one of them if not both of them are actually going to be in the top ten but when you start going down the list illuminated by the NY ways or left out. I'm not just look Steph Curry's thirteen and Kevin Durant's fourteenth. You think one the will slant somebody else there. One or two of them are going to be in the top ten. Let us because we talked about. Shaq now twice was an shack. That's an kilo meal day in the news again. He has beef with Draymond Green. Who doesn't at this point month says steph curry would have destroyed shack on the pick and roll and shock return fire by saying the warriors. Listen to this would not have contended. In his era have been seven scene. You cannot be with check on this. You cannot this too much hyperbole. All of these these things these mini beefs and they are fun. They are fun they are. And so you mentioned draymond. Green is great to drain away in unafraid. On on anything I love that. No I'm not going to agree with that. Warriors wouldn't content. I'm not but checks point. Tony is the game is not as physical. You cannot guard people like this which you could in Shacks Day dre monsters. We could have played anytime but with shackles. Saying is the warriors would have had to differently. Look people didn't switch everything. During Shacks Day you guarded Your Guy. Somebody called out a screen like when you and not played and you ran that guy over. If he wasn't like Wes unseld your ran right through him and makes a point and I get that point so I'm not gonNA agree wholesale with either guy. The warriors would be great anytime and shack and penny or shack. Wait or shacking Kobe. Day can be great anytime too. I WanNa make sure I understand the era. This is like the mid one thousand nine hundred ninety s to the mid two thousand somewhere in ten. So yeah there's whatever it is okay. Shack is so crazily wrong on this. The warriors won three titles. They should have won four in a row. If big mouth draymond green didn't get tossed out they would have won four in a row which is an enormous number this if shot to guard any of the warriors the way they run up and down the court by the second quarter he'd be asking for oxygen and I love Shaquille but you just you just can't say that Utah and Portland and Sacramento. Were better than the warriors who wait a minute campionships. He's talking about seeing the warriors against the Lakers or the Spurs. But I mean come on shack what just take a Sacramento Sacramento. Was hosed out of a trip to the championship at the expense of champions in hopefully cheated won three gold. Stay one seventy three games without durant agreement. Echoing would not have contended is craziness shacks. Point is he said in his day in Shacks Day people could knock you out of the air and not have a foul car. You know this so was shacking and saying there wouldn't have been one hundred and thirty four point scored in a playoff game to that degree. Shack makes a great point. I'm not saying Golden State. Golden STATE IS GONNA BE GREAT WHATEVER. Go to place because they can put it in a bass right but I'm just saying shocking saying you people would not have been flying up and down the court like the jetsons. If you had to play in a previous era he makes a tone. He makes a solid point. There can shoot shoot better than anyone. They shoot better than everyone. They have revolutionized the game. I'm just I'm not buying this. I'm not buying this not find any part of it either. We go baseball. No former Oakland a's manager. Tony Larussa tells the San Jose Mercury News. He wishes await back to basketball Michael. Jeffrey Jordan had accepted the as offer of a major league. Roster spot in ninety four Jordan instead chose to sign with the white SOx stars professional career in double a Birmingham. Is You know Tony. Do you wish. Mj had signed with the as no. No I don't he was not ready for Major League. Pitching was not even ready at that point from minor league pitching. He hadn't played baseball since high school. You just can't put him directly in the majors. It would have been far worse and embarrassing to a degree that it that it wasn't. Now I am persuaded by Terry Francona. Who said I didn't even realize Francona was as manager in Birmingham and Francona said if he stayed with it he would have made the majors. I hope that's true. It may be wistful. I don't know the seems to feel the same way but no Mike I wouldn't have put him straight in. Would you know I wouldn't have 'cause then? It was just been for circus effect. And as we've seen now. I mean from from from the documentary. Baseball had another effect. Not just competition for Michael but this this sense of starting over after his father's death you know starting his own life a new a different chapter which connected him to a different time and it may have been also. Tony just sort of mentally refreshing. I knew I've used the word burn out. Michael disagrees with me. But I've used that word whatever it however you want to look at it. Baseball represented so many things to him and it worked. And I've heard Tony. Franklin of other scouts say they thought NJ needed like fifteen hundred bats and he could have made it. But that's you know that's several years. Tony was already in his thirties. I guess thirty one when he tried this so no I wouldn't have done it. I mean all of those things Michael Winter Baseball Four. It wasn't just to make the majors even though I'm sure he would've loved that too. Yeah I mean he was a grown man when he did that Bo Jackson and Dion Sanders. I believe were far younger. When they attempted to play two different sports he hadn't played. It has to be like Costa fifteen years. Yes Oh exactly you. Don't you don't do that. And that chapter the baseball. Chapter in Michael Jordan's life. I suspect is very satisfying to him. It is for the reasons you're talking about. Can I mentioned that? You can't have Jerry West ahead of dwayne Wade anymore. You we love Jerry West. He's the logo shine. You dwayne wait now. Are you insane? You're you're idolatry of Dwayne Wade has reached the point of insanity in two days game with a three point. Shot would average forty points a game state. Please stop this to me. How many times the Lakers lost in the playoffs to the same team? Despite having the lights of Baylor wilt and Goodrich and they lost we can to anybody in Bristol. Who can just take this? Just take it. Take it away. Because he's scared of me now because I'm on a roll. He doesn't want to hear my logic. Oh my God though. We're apart these days with sharing more at Geico. We'd like to say thanks. Thanks for sharing. Your savage dance moves. Thanks for sharing your. Diy Haircut fails thanks for sharing your inner lip syncs star. Now it's turned to share with the GEICO give back the fifteen percent credit on car and motorcycle policies for current and new customers. Because we're committed for the long haul the fifteen percent credit last full policy term visit GEICO DOT com slash give back for more Info and eligibility glasses legal pad. Happy here we go happy Twenty Eighth Birthday Tyron Matthew. The diminutive defensive back has one of the great nicknames in sports the Honey Badger given to them in recognition of his tenacity. His determination to play tough physical defense against much taller. Bonus that he's only five nine he was he was a sensation at Lsu. Becoming a heisman finalists as a sophomore year Robert Griffin. The third one at the next season less miles dismissed him from the team for violating team. Rules News outlets reported that was for drug test failures but miles never confirmed that matthew slipped in the draft to the third round where Arizona took them after five years with the cardinals and one in Houston he signed with the Kansas City chiefs. Last season we had seventy five tackles two sacks and four interceptions made all pro and won the super bowl so that seems like the right move. Doesn't it will year. Tony does I I. I wish he was back with the cardinals a car going someplace town. They got a nice little collection of young players. Older guys like fits. I wish they'd get the honey. Badger one of your home teams will happy anniversary. Tony coup coach on this day. Twenty six years ago Phil. Jackson drew up a play for coach to take a shot with one point. Eight seconds remaining in a playoff game against the knicks with the Bulls. Already down to nothing. Scottie Pippen got so upset. That Phil did not off the plate for him that he took himself out of the game and sat on the bench and stoop fitness actions. Gasoline reverberate to this day because of the Jordan documentary but what people forget is coach. Made the shot with all the pressure in the world. Coach made the shot. Don't forget that when word got out the Bulls at quoted courted Couteau Kukoc from Croatia Pippen and Jordan bent out of shape and humiliated coach in their first meeting in the nine hundred ninety two Olympics pippen even said afterwards a coach was not ready for the NBA. So how sweet did this field? Making the game winner with Pepin on the bench. Get Off Scotty. Stop it's days you with this wrong. I've jumped you already. Kucova Scotty became really tight. Saudi coach Michael that I know firsthand for being around those guys co coach in a lot of game winners Demi told they made ready Jordan and pippen made him ready and he's thankful he's got three happy trails. The old rams helmet you'll die conic unbroken. La Rams Horn is gone but the new high tech modern art. Ram's Horn could have been a lot worse. It's still yellow on a blue background. It's still curved at the bottom and recognizable as Aram. Sworn it doesn't make me sick as I feared it it's possible even the ramp bastard war Eric dickerson will approve plus new Rams Unique fifty and maintain what we could call traditional rams colors except for the white ones. Which don't do it for me or bone as the rams people call. I liked the numbers. Get brighter as they go up. I'm talking about the numbers that moved from bone to yellow or soul as the rams people refer to yellow. How about you wilbad eloquent. I have nothing to add to that. I agree check for all the. Let me. Just check before we throw it back to Bristol. How were you on Rick? Berry being at forty three say Jaanus at twenty seven. I'm just asking. That's preposterous rick. Stop this was in great player with multiple rings. Stop At. I knew when I saw the list. I just wrote down Rick. Perry Forty Kornheiser will explode.

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Starting Conversations

Around the Horn

16:19 min | 2 months ago

Starting Conversations

"The. Around award around the Home Sarah, Spain Bill Plaski Frank Sola thanks for being with us today. There's some talk in the NBA. Restart and baseball's proposals. Ping Pong in different directions. We'll get to that in a bit. We start with statements. One, statement not meant to be a statement internal email that Pablo Tori and Maliki Andrews came across from the Knicks. One from Tiger Woods. And one from Team USA. They're all on the screen here. It should be said again. The Knicks was owner Jim Dolan's internal email to employees that has since come out yesterday in this space. Clinton Yates, Pablo Tori is routine era, said specifically. Statements can have import, but they also have the appearance of a business obligation for opportunistic reasons so I. WanNa know what you think of these specific statements frank. You could start with the New York Knicks because you covered. And I think the Knicks decided to say you know what we're. GonNa Remain Silent on this which I think, some people would have been okay with I think. Most people would not have liked, but once that email got leaked out in the email. You're explaining to your employees. We don't feel like we're qualified to discuss. These issues well hang on a second Jim Nolan number one. Your track record in terms of hiring minorities in a position of power is actually pretty good. Since you've owned the team the last twenty years. A majority of your players are African American. You play in New, York last night where? Where some of this stuff was taking place was at Herald. Square a block away from Madison Square. Garden I. Don't think there's anything wrong with sending out a statement pleading for Justice for George. Floyd talking about police brutality. You want to send out a message of unity you. WanNa talk about the new. York City Police listen not everyone's going to agree with that statement, but you had an opportunity to do that and I think this has a lot to do with Jim Dolan's relationship with President, trump he got married down at Mar-a-lago. He's endorsed the president. He's given donations I. Don't think sending out a statement. Just mentioned means that you're anti-trump and I think that's where Jim Dolan lost everybody. Have you heard from other members of the organization? Have you seen other members from the organization? Speak Publicly Frank. Well. That's the thing I think. A lot of the players are very confused and really don't know what to do, and I think guys like Leeann rose. The president has sent out a statement. There are people that their voices need to be heard when you're Jim Dolan. You're in a band and you sang a song about Trayvon Martin. Why did you feel like you're qualified to do that, but not talk about something that's happening right here in your city. I really think they missed this one. We'll bring it Sarah Spain now. Any thoughts on the Knicks message or non message message I. Yes, we should call it. I understand this sort of initial or knee. Jerk reaction saying you're damned if you do damned if you don't if you don't say anything, you're complicit. If you say the wrong thing, people criticize it, but we can ask people to put in just a little bit of work so that they are qualified to speak, we can certainly ask somebody who has benefited from employees and players of color for the entirety of his career to have invested any amount of time over the last couple of decades to understand the issue beyond. Beyond a simple platitude or a message of unity and togetherness. That's why this is so frustrating because he's showing his, but he's saying I'm not qualified to speak on something that he should care about that. He should have educated himself in and that his team and his companies should have a statement on I understand that we're all ready to pick an attack, but we don't have to pick an attack if people come forward and prove that they've done the work, and if you haven't, you're letting people know right now. and Bill Plaski statements in general and the New York. Knicks here. You know you can't sit this one out the nature. Sitting this one out. They can't do it. Talk. Doc was yesterday, and he said this have any impact especially from athletes, it has to come from the players and coaches, but especially from ownership. He has to understand. He doesn't realize his marquee team. He employs a millionaire african-american athletes. These are real people, real men with real lives who lives community who suffer the same repression. Everyone else does his. Yes, to be sensitive to that. He has a speak-out for them. Speak up for his employees shameful they that he sits. This went out. It should be said. The Knicks have released statements in the past. They released a statement when they fight with Charles Oakley. If I recall correctly right, guy, solicit is something that. I WanNa Talk I wanNA talk and spike. Lee I want to talk specifically about Tiger Woods plash. You've covered tiger woods since he was a teenager young teenage. You've been to his house when he was a young teen. His statement. Very disappointing. He talked about wanting honest and constructive conversations, but he's afraid to have a mistake. If you read it, it begins with a old police, and that seems fair tone deaf, and then it continues. It doesn't really mention tigers place in the world as a person of color is challenges as a person of color. He doesn't put himself with people. Of Color in the statement and I think we could be so. He's the most influential athletes in the world. People were listening to him I. Think it's important to take a stand now and at least have this. Conversation that he clearly doesn't WanNa have about where the the the efforts and the oppression faced by people who look like him in faced at the hands of the police. Instead he pretty much compliments the police in this very tone, deaf, disappointing from tiger. Right Guy Sola. Well I also think come on bill. He did mention George George Floyd at first and extended his condolences to the family and I. Think we're at a point to where if a lot of people, it's confusing so tony. You always say no both things can be right and I think in this case tiger. Woods is trying to say what happened to George Fluid is awful, but not police officers at a time when you have some getting run over in Buffalo, a guy getting. Getting shot in Las. Vegas I think it's a confusing type? Everyone in trying to pick the right words. There are two athletes of the last fifty years that we always want to hear from. It seems like that get criticized Michael Jordan. Tiger Woods. It seems like a lot of are okay with Michael statement not so much with Tiger Woods. I think he's trying to give a statement about unity, but let's face it I think most people looked at. It said not good enough. Sarah Spain. Unity is well and good, but it's incredibly vague in his statement, which was less than one hundred words, he said George Floyd and can doleances to the family, but he made it feel like an outlier. He was specific about the incident, and he said of the police that this tragedy did not go along with the training that they undergo to handle things correctly. That's fine. If you want to say that there are plenty of good officers out there if that's part of your mess, but he. He doesn't mention race. He doesn't say black. He doesn't say racism. He doesn't say that. This is part of institutionalized and systemic racism in our country, and the decades and centuries of this have led up to the anger. He says instead. Let's not burn our own backyard. Condemn looting and violence if you want, but only if you also address that they are symptoms of larger disease, and he ignores that disease in order to instead focus on placating people by saying that the police are mostly good. Sarah. Do appreciate what you said there. I did lose about thirty percent of it because we just got a citywide curfew in effect for New York. This is the. World we're living now where it comes in and blows everything out. Did anyone want to add to that frank, did you WANNA last week? Will, head. Yeah, I think there's a lot of people say well. How can you criticize these athletes least? We're saying something. They need to say something important powerful here. Silence is complicity in this. I think all of us need to speak up and. I don't think is too much to ask for athletes to have the uncomfortable conversations that you countries have in right now and for guy sold. And I think bill. One of the reasons about saying uncomfortable conversations I think when you have a guy like tiger woods. If you don't like what he's saying right away like be quiet. What are you talking about well, if maybe he's confused. Maybe he doesn't know this should be part of the conversation. Everyone's going to agree with every statement that is coming at you. Guys talked about it on the show yesterday, sometimes they. They come across the shallow and it's PR. We need to release a statement like this, but I think there's a lot of people out there that confuse an searching for the right words and I think when they say something. Just as you know what you should just be quiet, I'm not sure that's always the right way to go. I think the point is though people feel people are trying to play both sides or All sides matter all lives matter and we know what that would. That means it means is that? Lives are endangered here. Black lives are endangered here when people say all lives matter negating that black lives are endangered here at a greater rate than anywhere else I wanna make one more mention of a statement, and it wasn't a statement as Anthony. Lynn told L Z granderson in your paper plastic the La Times I'm not gonNA. Make a pretty statement. And then he went, and did a q a where he talked about police brutality, and he talked about the systemic racism in this country, and he talked about Colin Kaepernick as As well, I think that needs to be mentioned. Here's the thing for me if you're to believe these statements from teams and federations are to welcome all forms of voice from athletes and even protests i. want you to think about this for a second. We showed USA team USA. Statement before protests is illegal at the Olympics. There is a rule against protests at the Olympics team. USA Put to athletes on probation just last year for protesting at the metal, Stan at the Pan Am Games so releasing a statement is one thing. And that also that's another thing for all these companies have released a statement. Let's see your board of Governors. Let's see you're hiring practice today. And where are you planning to be a year from now? We're going to take a break. We'll be back in two minutes. Is brought to you lexus experience amazing. GEICO knows there many reasons why you ride from the Camaraderie of the other bikers, a band of brothers, always there for you rain or shine to the amazing savings you get with Geico on your motorcycle, insurance and accessories coverage all year round, but It was one reason in particular. It was my helmet hair. Osborne with helmet hair I've tried to cut it a bunch of times buzzing it, but it immediately just goes back down the hair geico motorcycle. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. A restart still circling a late July date focus now on twenty two teams in the playoffs, but unequality board of Governors Oklahoma City owner Clay Bennett reportedly cautioned against that argued for the symbolic power of all thirty teams restarting the season's Frank. Should that be a priority for the NBA here? No it should not more pessimistic than ever before considering everything that's happening in this country including pandemic I've heard that there are players whose families are worried about them going to Orlando and if you're going to go down there, just leave it at sixteen teams. I mean come on. You've played enough of a regular season. Just go down there with sixteen. You get the playoffs star Bill plachy. Yeah. There's health reasons for this. You don't want to widen the quarantine circle. You don't want to add ED team. If you want to subtract teams, these teams have had again we we pretty much know they've had most of the season to prove themselves. It's not hurting their ticket sales to not play three Games in Orlando take twenty. Twenty two teams take two teams within six games the playoffs. They have a chance to do it that way bringing down Sarah Spain. I hadn't occurred to me and I. Do understand the plight of saying not playing for nine months could be really harmful to the popularity orchestra and. For a small market team, but I think in the end they're going to decide. It's twenty two because of the revenue it allows, and then it's still limits the number of people that are possibly contaminated or the number of people that have to work and the investment they have to make in the whole bubble situation based on the number of people they bring on. A majority vote in twenty is going to win Frank. You said you were growing in your in your pessimism. Here for leak restart happening. You don't believe owners just going to rubber stamp. Whatever commissioner silver comes up with your just to get the season. Going I don't I. Don't think that's the case only because we had heard that a May I. It was going to be a plan when on June second, and really, there's still not a plan in place and remember Tony Now. We're talking. July thirty first. It's like the NBA kicking stone down the road, a little bit I keep saying. They wanted other leagues to start before they came back. We'll move our buyer sell to L. Resorts. Well, you heard about the plan for hundred fourteen games. That the players wanted. It's believed the owners want to counter that counteroffer with fifty games. What's the path that common ground you're? Is, baseball closer or further from his seat. This is further from the season. The owners were taunting. Paid by the game we'll play fifty games. They can't have a fifty game season. That's a complete joke. That would be far. Nobody's ever going to play that the owners. Just these teams get together. They're committing suicide right now. All the bull and get to work. saw. Same bills praying for dodgers, Yankees World Series and fifty games. I mean come on Tony. That's less than two months of baseball. That's your offer from from the from baseball. Come on. That's for pro rated salaries to make it work though money wise for the owners. That's the suggestion here right Sarah Spain. Is that what you're reading? Yeah, Fifty Games. Yeah, yeah, the claim is of course. Okay. We'll play you PLO- pro right about the only way it works I fifty games. Then they still only get thirty percent of their salaries instead of the seventy percent that they would get with the one hundred and fourteen game plan, so we're inching no closer to each other. We're just digging even further if you're. If you're looking at the owner's decision, and I think in the end it's going to be a massive issue in terms of them coming together in a massive issue for baseball when they realized that they don't actually have a season. Horn comes quick. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news here. You're watching showdown front row seat for Sarah Spain Franklin. S. I hope you guys saw the tweet from Washington. Nationals Reliever Sean doolittle, pledging to cover pay for minor leaguers at the franchise, said they would. Bat got the team to reverse course. Nationals will now pay stipends to minor leaguers route shoe. Oils twins Astra's reds among teams already announcing every minor leaguer will be paid. All summer. Sarah Frank Welcome to showdown, Saturday believable momentum to paying minor league players is now getting to a point where we could see this happening all major league teams paying their minor leagues. I, absolutely do I think. Momentum is headed that way. Thanks to little and others holding this specific team accountable now the other ones will feel like the spotlight's on them if they refuse to do so. Go to the Bravo, to the team started doing this, you know the value of the franchise's is always going to go up the fact that they're not gonNA. Pay Minor Leaguers who don't make that much money to begin with. That's a little this. Would appoint will move on showdown to. This is my this is my thing. The Sean Jack I've said this to Sean. Mike players up for their games is upcoming season. If there's going to be no crowd, the debate over fake crowd noise has been raging for a while frank. Would you rather have Mike? The players are fake crowd noise. Unfortunately Sean, but didn't hear much. From last season he only played in three games all for Mike players. I love the crowd noise ain't been doing it in Germany. It's well out I like both ideas. Says, why not both you're not gonna get it live better because they're going to have to edit out. Musashi strategy so yeah. US The second delay there are certainly cards, but there's a Lotta pros. Is All I'm saying? Of course Sarah Spain. The lawyer of our show argues for both take thirty seconds of facetime Sarah. I WANNA. Give a shout out to our colleague. Former Eagles NFL player Emmanuel Acho who now works as an analyst for us. He just put out the first and what he's calling. A series called uncomfortable conversations with a black man I. See so many people saying how can I help? How can I educate myself? What can I do? He is offering up conversations about some of the most. Pieces in the current unrest, the use of the N. Word, systemic racism, the oppression that led to the current reaction. Listen to him follow him. Thank you very much for that Sarah take one last second year to remember Wes Unseld I. Know You grew up cheering for bill. At Louisville rest in peace west.

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