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Ozark Recap Season 3 Episode 3: Kevin Cronin Was Here
"And we're back and Shit's getting deep. We are talking today. All about ozark season three episode three in a world where your friends and Co Workers. Don't understand your movie or TV obsession obsession where you just want someone anyone to share your binge-watching watching it. Shannon fader are here for you. Your wait is over. Stinger starts now now. Now I everyone I'm Shannon and I'm federal weapons singer. Tv PODCAST. You may know us as ozarks dirty laundry or you may know us as Stinger but we're doing it all in one place here. We are watching season three of ozark episode by episode. And I meant it when I said Shit's getting deep here. Don't you think Oh. Yeah Oh yeah I mean. We've talked before. Generally I think it takes four episodes for season to really pick up steam But I think episode three did it for me yes. I think it definitely did it for me too. I mean episode one. You know all all of this have always been sucked in immediately to Ozark so I like it all but this episode in particular ramped it up definitely all right but this is this episode reminds me of what I hate about this. Show two tenths yes. I'm like Oh look it's like so Shannon's a big fan of the walking dead and when I started watching it at at Shannon's request I liked the show but every time I'm like Oh my God Kathy. Just get a break. And that's how I feel about this show. I'm like no. Can't we just have one episode where it's just? Nice family but then nobody would watch. Nobody would care what would and by the way. If you don't watch Ozark you probably not listening to this. But Shannon I do watch all a lot of different shows and we talk about a lot of different shows and we will get back to that at some point. We do have a facebook discussion group on on facebook called on facebook. Tv movie discussion with Stinger where we are talking about all things not ozark including tiger king for those of us that got sucked into that But we're going to save all that because we have so much talk about just with Ozark. Right Chan yes. But did you hear? I don't know if you saw the post. I tagged you in your favorite show coming back. And just a few weeks. After season two ricky surveys on net flicks my top. Tv Show of twenty nine thousand nine. That's right that's right. Had mentioned that had to mention that maybe we will do some podcasting about all right. Let's get into our listener feedback. This is becoming a segment. I'm happy to say yeah. Hey shoutout to our listeners. Thank you so much for the feedback. Let me just throw out again. We got more feedback from Dr. Chester and Jennifer sent us both emails this morning saying the guitar symbol in episode one was reo speedwagon so clearly. Everybody got like guitar. So you guys please keep it coming. We we appreciate the Shaming. We really actually. I've listened. We know there are things that we miss and in fact there is one thing that we that we really miss. That was a good catch by one of our listeners. Shannon why don't you tell them about that e mail yes? I was really excited to get this and I am not sure exactly who to attribute this to now the the from line of the email says Rosca but the person signed their email would just say so. Hey when you guys right in email us and give us your first name so we can acknowledge you on the podcast so rasgas slash j wrote in to say. Hey y'all I love your podcast. I think in season one. Wendy talks about her upbringing. As a board preacher's daughter breaking into homes spiking the milk with food coloring messing with the family pictures and drinking beer from the fridge. Do you remember that or am I mistaken thank you. It was like the heavens opened up when I got that email. I was very excited. Thank you so much. I did a little digging. I did not remember that at all. I think I feel like that came out in the episode. It was a flashback sewed. Maybe when Marty I got in bed with the cartel and they were thinking about what they should or maybe it was. After Wendy had lost the baby I do remember them having a deep heart to heart. I for some reason I feel like they were sitting on a porch swing talking. I thought that this happened when Wendy was talking to Mason. When she was telling him about how she was a preacher's daughter and they were talking about you know whether y she didn't go back to the church and all of that kind of thing. I thought that conversation came out with Mason at some point. I'm pretty sure this was. I think it might have even been yeah. It was season one season one from that with read it. I'm telling you like all of a sudden have this image of their sitting on a front porch swing I almost think Wendy's laying on Marty's lap and she's she's talking about her history but I mean that makes sense because with Ben back in the picture and we even said this in episode two. He saying there's the Wendy I remember. Yeah so she's really going backwards. Well a going backwards. I don't know but becoming more comfortable in her own skin and I had to kind of think about that because I don't know about you or I don't know about anyone out there who may be older as we are a little bit and and has been married for a while. But I feel like you know you're a certain type of person when you're younger and then maybe you get into a relationship you you start to really establish your life as a married couple that maybe some things change. Maybe something's take a back seat and that's fine but then as you get older. I've noticed this with me definitely personally that some. I don't know just some ways that you used that I used to be when I was younger are emerging and. I'm not afraid or embarrassed or worried about saying this is who I am like. I swear a lot and for many years I didn't swear in front of my kids my little worse house. That's good well. I mean but lately you know my kids are fifteen and twenty one so I I just say whatever the fuck I want around the house and my husband is just like dude. You have to with the swearing. I'm like you know what this is who I am. I'm like this is who I am sharing at heart. I can identify with that that whole feeling that Wendy might be going through so you know what I think is that we over thought the whole event of her going through the House in Chicago and what I mean it was definitely symbolic of her state of mind but it also shows that maybe she needs to get out from under the shadow of a man like whether it was her preacher father or her husband Marty and just be herself and take risks again. I think that's a really good assumption. And that is great feedback We would actually love. We would love your feedback to be included in our next podcast whether it was from episode one two or three of the season. We'd love to hear from you so if you're yelling at the TV during an episode or yelling at us as you listen to this PODCAST WE WANNA know. You can email your comments to us. Which is where we've been getting most of our feedback. Stinger podcast at G MAIL DOT COM. You can also leave a voicemail for us. It's a simple message at three one five sting. Tv You can call three one. Five seven eight four six four eight eight or send us a message on social media on twitter and instagram. We are at Stinger podcast. And don't forget to join our facebook groups we have ozarks dirty laundry obviously devoted ozark and our TV and movie discussion with Stinger which covers everything in TV and movies right. I think it's time to dive in to episode three. Kevin Cronin was here so this episode starts out ethically with Wendy playing. Fetch with a dog and we hear. Reo speedwagon time for me to fly. I loved it it was so symbolic and it was so much fun but then hold on because as it ope first of all. I had to Google Kevin Cronin before the episode even started. Oh I didn't Google it. I was waiting till the end to see if it became apparent. I did not recognize the name so at the end I was like. Who's Kevin Cronin and my husband New Dude? He's the sewer. So spoiler lead singer for our speedway song is time for me to fly and right away. I'm thinking did they always have a dog like I did not remember that okay? That's what I said I'm like Oh they must have got a dog. How Fun so fun? Yeah but then it turns dark okay. We see Wendy getting a dead dog out of the back of her car and Guar. Whoa WHOA not her car. It wasn't her car okay. I didn't notice that it was a big escalate. Oh okay that was Helen's car okay. Interesting and I was like what the fuck did she do to the dog? Well what does he do? I thought the my I thought there was that this was a flashback. And that somehow she killed cade but then I'm like wait. We saw the scene with Kate and it wasn't her that pulled the trigger so I was confused for a moment. And then of course we realized you know The scene goes on and Marty drives up and it's basically replaying the scene of cades death but with Marty and Wendy Point Blank Shoots Marty obviously a dream. But wow yeah but it wasn't until she shot. Mardi that I was like okay. This is the dream right but listen so dreams are. I'm very good at dream interpretation. It's like my superpower so dreams are typically not about. What's actually happening in your dream. But it's about how you feel in the dream so if you're scared of something in your dream let's say you're scared of a green eyed monster. It's usually not about a green eyed monster. It's about your fear and your fear of something that is represented by that monster so I'm looking at the Stream Thinking. How was she feeling? And in the dream she's empowered She's ruthless. But I have to look at it and say are these her desires or are these her fears. Wow deep yeah I think it's a little bit of both. I think she has the desires to be free time for her to fly time for her to shine but she knows the things that she may have to do right. She might be responsible for Marty's death right right so good all right then. We have our actual open with the symbols. Which will talk about at the end. Wendy and Helen are going to finalize casino deal and Marty's taking care of Reo speedwagon and he says. Oh did you sleep okay? And she's like yeah and he said she yelled out in her dream. I can't So what does that meaning? I can't do this. I can't I can't shoot Marty. I can't kill a dog. I can't wear that fall in. Here's what I thought. When he said that I actually thought he was trying to trick her. Because we didn't hear her say. I can't in the dream at all and I thought he was trying to maybe subconsciously. Plant something in her mind about not being able to do whatever she was about to do. I think she alleged 'cause they show it later right. Yeah yeah in for different so we see Wendy and Helen talking about. Where are they are they? Are they in the car in okay? It's there in the car on the way to Big Money again okay. And this conversation had me worried by the way episode to Wendy Wendy and I- Shannon and I'm sorry so we were talking about how you were clearly team. Marty and I was clearly team Wendy and I have to say. My feelings are shifting. Good good I don't think Wendy and I can be friends anymore. So they are talking and they say they're talking about Martin particular and they're saying well. We can't do any of this without him as if he's just a player in this and that language had very concerned. Helen says few people can get my clients attention. The way you have Wendy says should I be worried and Helen says only if you fuck up and I'm like exactly that is the whole you don't just strike up a deal with Navarro and be like. Hey I think we should do this. I want to point out the subtlety that happened just in the beginning of that conversation. Okay so you know. She's asking how how're things with your acts and Helen. Saying how are things with Mardi and Helen says when she started eclipsing her husband professionally lost interest in her sexually and Wendy. While I hardly think I'm eclipsing Marty and you know We need him and Helen. Scoffs you know right. And she's clearly feeding Wendy's ego and that got me thinking about what our listener. Peter said that Helen is using Wendy. And I'm like ooh and he all comes to a head at the end of the episode and I. I think that you said this. Wendy's being naive and she really is because I think that her comments even though she's careful what she says to Helen about her relationship with Marty. Wendy is digging Marty's grave. Yeah and I don't think that I don't think Wendy is the ruthless person that we see in her dreams. I don't know she I know we so she so out there in the next scene even points to that. She's just nasty and arrogant and I feel like she's being more and more relaxed with who she tells about. What the Hell's going on in her life I'm yes yes. So they actually get to the casino. They're still playing hardball. And we find out that they bought the casino but not the hotel from Carlin Anita and basically. They can't have one without the other. They need both and Wendy. Says we are bigger than you and we are meaner and we do not lose and I'm like girl jeans just like Helen. I'm you need to calm down. But it's clear to me that this is a war of the women. I mean it's Wendy and Helen. Against Anita very strong female roles this this season definitely even in the next scene where we see yes an interesting choice a pregnant FBI agent. Who Walks in with a goldfish? Right right agent. Maya Miller is there settling in with her fishbowl. And telling Marty what's going to happen. They're going to track all the receipts solar income and she said which is interesting if after the FBI leaves. There's a jump in revenue. They're going to start the process all over a grand right so problem for money laundering. By the way I think when when directors make specific choice like this like she's not just an FBI agent. She's a woman and she's pregnant. So why is that and I think I think it's because you've got someone like Trevor Evans or Roy Petty who were like these Really unlikable unrelatable characters and. Then you've got Maya who comes in and I I don't know that the FBI specifically assigned her there for this reason or if this was just a director's choice that let's make her a little softer and a little more approachable. I'm wondering if that choice is because it's to allow. Mardi chew possibly WanNa take advantage of her not not in a sexual way but just thinking that he can maybe get away with more. I I don't know I I don't have her turn out. Be Turning out to be just as strong as the other female but Marty even when he's doing dirty deeds is a pretty standup guy. He's not ruthless ever true trevor. Or maybe it's just a fake belly and she's got a giant microphone camera. I just kidding. She says that they'll have forensic accountants. Did you know that was even a thing? No forensic accountants checking the cashbox is every hour on the hour and so he pretty much knows that he's he's screwed cannot do what he was doing to launder the money right. So again the writer so this show are very good at constantly. Increasing the stakes. And it stresses me stressing me out so part of it. I love it Mardi so someone in our facebook group mentioned after they watched Episode three that there were a lot of ll moments. Yes and she was totally right. Because I actually laughed out loud so many times in this episode so the next one was when Marty outside talking to ruth. And she's like you need to get your house in order. And he's like I know I know I shouldn't have done that Blah Blah Blah. And she back at him and he goes. I'm trying to apologize and she just goes. Well just stand at the up waiting waiting and he goes. I'm sorry just me. Laugh out loud. And he's like I'm trying to apologize. She's like no. You're going to say it Wale Yup and then the next part of that was justice. Funny because he's telling her that she needs to move money in the new casino and not tell Wendy right so ruth is like all right and she gets her gang together and goes up to the other casino and is locked up. It's closed up. Keiko's could because Wendy shut down the new casino for whatever reason right and she caused Mardi and she's like get your shit together and I'm like okay. Now when now Marty's using Wendy's legit casino for money laundering but I'm Kinda like well fair's fair right. I mean she wasn't truthful with him. So why should he be truthful with her? Is just everybody's digging themselves such truth. So ben comes up while Marty's talking to ruth and this is another one that made me laugh out loud. He comes up he goes. I like this color on you. And she goes gray gray yes she's just like not letting him get away not letting him get away with anything and he said. I think we should hang out and she's like you fucking kidding me. I love her I do. I love her so much. And I can't tell in these scenes in this episode weather. She just isn't understanding his advantage. His advances it. Oh she she just seems to be. Like what the fuck are you doing? She understands she trust no one. Yeah I mean for life crusts nobody. Yeah like what's your deal like. Somebody's always got something angle right. Yes yes so that we have What is the next scene where frank comes to see Wendy right? Yes so Wendy Charlotte or having a conversation in Charlotte is reminding her mother of her therapy appointments of Charlotte still entertaining. That idea and frank stops by and that was definitely an. Oh Shit moment. Yeah he tells her that he needs the casino open and he didn't do what he did as a favor. And Wendy's like She knows that Mardi sabotage the formation confirmation there and we see Mardi and Wendy which is again another. Ll moment they're arguing about this therapy and it was hysterical. Because somehow they're managing to argue about this without actually saying what's going on the keep calling it a project I'm like. How could they keep these things under wraps in the heat of an argument like that? I thought this scene was hilarious so like it was like a real therapy session and I wrote a quote but now I can't remember who said it. I think it was. Oh it was Mardi saying. I'm asking you for help on a problem that you fucking created and that is true right because she I mean they're they're number one priority and their number. One goal is to launder the money. Everything else is is beside that yet and they and now because of her right because of her and she's basically saying like well. Good luck with that. I don't understand that but what I loved what I love Love Love. Was the therapist thing. Well what would that look like? Mardi and he goes. That would look like death. Jeff and she goes. Well I mean what would what would it really looked like? He goes really death. He goes into her afterwards. Any cyclic. Bribing you to make us happy. Yes that's the best. Oh my God. That whole scene was hilarious. Oh good well. Then we have Dinner again at the birds and Ben is just trying to make small talk to try to fit into the family here and he's starting to suspect something and when he gets a phone call and it's Navarro again. I mean dude. Why does he keep calling her right? I really don't like his fascination I don't like it either and you see Mardi at the dinner table and glancing over at his laptop and he wants to like jump up unless he can't because that would be so obvious Yeah and again kind of Funny Navarro says how well my girlfriend just had a baby and then he says he wants a better life for all of them. I mean how does this guy have? It's very clear he's a man that does what he wants. Yeah Yeah and then he says to her says to Wendy. If you can't get what you want with reason you have to get it with force well before that. She says you've trusted me so far. And he said I don't trust you. I trust my opinion of you. Yeah and then he says if you can't get what you want with reason you have to get it with force and I. I honestly liked the way that Wendy one is. You go in cracks and skulls but I like the way that Wendy took that and then just kind of twisted which will see later in episode right so now we see a dream another dream. It was clear at this point that it was a dream because of the background was sort of you know muted and I was thinking at first it was Mardi Stream. Okay did you know it was Wendy's right away? Yeah I did. I still thought it was. Wendy's yeah and it was the exact you know now that I had that picture of kid in my mind it was the exact same scene when she went to see cade so I thought I knew it was her dream. Oh 'cause she that's right. She gave kate a bag of money to get out of town. That exact x-ray key and I didn't really watch season two so I had forgotten some of this right right so when she gives him the money. Marty says people are all about money right but then he asks her to come with him which obviously didn't do cages took the bag and was happy to leave. But Marty says come with me and she says I can't which was then we cut to her in her sleep. Say can't yes right and what I got out of that dream is I think she wants a way out but she now knows it's too late Interest can't she can't I mean she's into deep with with Navarro right right. Well then. Helen Tells Marty that the client wants the new casino clean. I don't I don't understand what Nabarro thinks is going to happen here. You know breathing down their neck. What what are they supposed to do? Yeah but Helen. She implied that Marty was the one that brought down the feds when he blew up the casino. Show made it sound like the casino was it. I don't know I don't know so I mean either way Helen's not his brand no no not at Wendy's friend either although I think that's getting getting confused so then Wendy's back in the diner the exact same diner right. That was just in her dream. There's probably only one diner in town. But but this the casino where Carlin Anita are. That's a ways away so I don't know but I think she tried to get Karl out of town. She tries to have a heart to heart with Carl. And this scene bothered me for a couple of reasons number one. Her manipulation is so transparent right and glee. I was hoping she would take another approach. Because I don't think Carl would fall for it. No I mean if someone tried to manipulate me that like you said transparently I would. I would just be disgusted. I realized eighty. Don't you remember just said to us what you did to our casino. I'm not listening to anything. You have to say what I was hoping that she would do. Is she would kind of plea to him from a human perspective to say look. I work for some people that don't take no for an answer. This is not me. This is not something that would say like. This is really out of my hands and I'm just trying to tell you that regardless of what you want. We have to make this work somehow. But she didn't take that approach. No not at all not at all she. She questioned his strength and his marriage. She questioned his dignity. She said you know what I see. You don't get that at home. Because he said he wanted dignity you know wanted to be want to have some dignity and she tells him I took back my life and now I answered only one person. May you know and she just comes off as just a bench. I just don't think she would have turned around that fast. But I did like Richie used. Navarro's words yes. Yes she did she. She put them in his lap. Do with what he wanted. Yep and we will we will come back to Carlin Anita because this. I definitely had a beef with this with this episode. Okay so but next week go to. Ruth's trailer park And we see three and ruth talking three dozen have much much of a role here other than just to kind of relay information about Wyatt and she still asking how why it's doing 'cause you know. Ruth is very close to him and Helen shows up. Offers condolences to ruth about her dad and she said. I lost my dad. When I was about your agency goes was he murdered. He murdered and I loved that Ruth is like all right. Are we done with small talk now? We don't enough Chitchat now. Yeah we done enough. Chitchat and Helen comes to complement Ruth. And it's clear that ruth you know. She wants that. She needs that she needs that. That confidence boost and Helen asks her. Could you run the day to day of Missouri Bell if Mardi were away and it was right then I was like? Oh Jeff yet I haven't. I held my breath at that point. I'm like what do you mean if Marty was away? Ya Not cool because she kind of implied that with this new casino he might be needed elsewhere but I was like that is not what she's talking about. Oh Yeah and roofs author that she definitely did she smarts no. I don't think route saw through that. I think she did. Not you know because she went to Mardi and told him right but I think she told him kind of like. Oh here's what she was asking because she said you're GonNa be working on this other project and Marty was like No Yeah I honestly don't think ruth really understood. I think she I think she. Ruth still thinks everybody's all on the same team they just don't communicate. Well okay okay. She doesn't realize yeah so I'm realizing at this point. Wendy needs to be really careful that she doesn't reveal too much about her issues with Marty and her trust issues right. Yeah next. We've got Ben driving a boat with Jona and he's just going crazy. I don't know is like doing donuts in the water and the COP. Stop Him Ben. Blessing. You know. He's like wait boat. Cops that's the thing no idea. He's so cute and Joan is like Uncle Ben. Just let me handle this right and Joan is like. Hey Sheriff it's Joan a bird in the sheriff's like Hey Joanna doing tell your parents I said hi just slowdown. Bye-bye by gets them off super easy and Ben is like wait. What just happened right so Jonas throwing some clout around. Yeah Ben is starting to realize piece by piece very memory there things going on in this yes. There are things happening and the birds have a lot on. So next is the conversation between Ruth and Marty and it's very clear that Marty is picking up what Helen is putting down And again if you re watch that scene. I don't think ruth realized it until she's having this conversation already. I might miss that. I mean I know I know as soon as ruth said that Marty was like okay. I'm dead yes but I didn't okay. So Mardi now knows the stakes are high and his life is at risk. Yeah and this is when I wish he and Wendy could get back on the same page but all right now now. We've got the scene that I wanNA talk about Anita and Carl. Yeah okay. So they're going for a walk and Anita is just badgering the shit out of cloud ragging on him so bad. She's okay. Oh but this is my beef. Because I don't think they've been consistent with her character. Do you feel like you picked up on this. The first time we saw Anita and Carl well the first time I mean I feel like they'd been leading up to that. She was obviously the one in charge all along in my mind. I I don't think so. Because she is the one that originally wanted to sell she was like. That's a good deal and Carl didn't want to. And so they originally said no. They came back with more money. And then they said yes and then the casino boat blew up and then they said no but in this scene she just went all out all out like you're a terrible businessman. You've always been terrible at business. I should've never married you. I should have married your brother. I mean it was like I wish they had built up to the scene a little bit more so that we really felt like Carl had just been beaten down for years and years because they just made her so I feel I feel like they did because you know Carl had that initial conversation with Marty and Carl's just like you know I've learned it's better to just let your desires take a back seat so I felt like from the beginning. It was clear that Kara was beaten down. Yeah but no. There's a difference between a domineering wife which they portrayed her as and a woman that really just beat him down but in the end I guess she got what was coming to her. So do you think so? Clearly it was an accident right right but he watched a roll down and I don't think he went after her. We'll see this was no he. He clearly didn't I mean we saw him actually walk away. I'm sure he probably I don't know I don't know what he would have done yet. But that was kind of where I had a little bit of a beef. It wasn't with Anita's Reactions or her badgering him. It was you know they've been married and working together for years and years and years in for him. Even if you really are pissed off at your spouse and you don't like them very much anymore I don't feel like your reaction to them rolling down a hill and smack in their head in a tree and dying in the water would be to just be like. Oh Damn walkaway. Right exactly so Janelle. The little bit of a problem with that with his act. I feel like there should have been like a moment of panic and then a what do I do? As? Yeah yes. So they're kind of painting him as just a a doofus. Yeah stupid but I don't know whatever I guess. They're probably not really a huge part. I think we're going to see them much more after then. I don't think they're done and I think so. Wendy I think in the next scene calls Marty and let them know that they got the hotel and he's like okay. Does that mean does that mean any? Can I start lottery money? I don't think he says that directly. But he's like okay. He says I mean anything for me to solve anything for me. Yeah no nope just letting you know and and I'm like Wendy girl come on now so at this point. I'm starting to feel really bad for Mardi and I don't think she realizes the stakes for Mardi right. I think she's just flexing her muscle and her power saying I can run this show too not realizing that. He's he's in a shitload all right and if she wants to be so powerful and helpful and useful. Why doesn't she help him? Figure out how to launder money. That is right media. Problem exactly exactly. It's so yeah. Sorry Team Wendy. I think I'm defecting Elizabeth. I don't know I don't know who's team I'm on anymore. But then suddenly Wendy is talking about getting Zeke back. Yeah Darlene and right away. I'm thinking how the hell does she think she's going to do that. With a war somehow. Yeah Ben is starting to get curious about what's going on which I've said several times and he makes a comment. That Joan is the waivers of Wendy and she has very flattered she. She was very flattered and she kind of opened up to him. A little bit told them about the affair. Didn't full out tell him about how you know everything. Let's let's dot. I sorry I just want to stop because I think that was a significant line. Joan is a boy version of Wendy. Because let's dissect that for a second. What what picture of Joan have they portrayed? We saw that he had joan. I think lacks a bit of an emotional connection right right. Remember him when he was killing animals and they were very worried about him but he was really just doing it from more of a scientific fascination standpoint right so I think that's an important connection to make right there that Joan is like a boy version of Wendy. Because that's not necessarily a good thing. Well that's a good point. That's a good point. He's he's smart and he's driven and he maybe doesn't look at the long-term as much as other people right right interesting so bent. Says how you GonNa get this baby. And she says I'm GonNa pick a fistfight with a hillbilly hillbilly fistfight. And I didn't think she meant that literally. I'm not quite sure where that's going but will it will be. I'm sure The next thing. We have Mardi talking to Dickie the manager I guess for. Reo speedwagon. And he's trying to convince him very subtly to use Marty's vendors you know he's saying you know maybe we could use our guys and how about if I give you an extra one hundred thousand and Dickey's let me call. The guys and again was so funny gets dickey gets on the phone like. Hey you know. The guy here wants his. Help US launder some money. I thought I was like okay. Did you know Marty Yeah okay transparent. Hey let's let's all right. So then Wendy goes to the farmers market and she didn't literally pick a fight in a very public place and I wasn't sure what was going on initially at first but she was clearly trying to antagonize Darlene. She wanted Darlene to hit her In a very public place and she really did go below the belt she did. And why was there helping Darlene at the farmer's market and I think that that was kind of a wild card that Wendy obviously didn't anticipate surprise to see why there and why it really diffused the situation because I think that that could have escalated a lot more. Darlene was right. She said I'm going to kill her. You know she was ready. And why COM Darlene down? So the thing I don't really understand about. This is where now. I had expected Wendy to go to the police if she if her goal is to show. That darlene is an unfit mother. I mean obviously chef some other reason and I'm not getting it yet but she should have gone to the police and set up an assaulted but she didn't so I yeah I don't know if she's going to go to social services she's going to go to the police but you would think she would have done. That already. Took THE NEXT DAY. And you see you're taking some pictures of her face but that doesn't prove anything you know. I guess if some people saw it than it could be corroborated but maybe she's GonNa Blackmail Darlene. I don't know but I don't know I don't know what she wants. But so then we see Maya the FBI agent. Who's having kind of an off the cuff conversation with Mardi and we're going to talk about this a little later on. This is going to be part of our dilemma for the day. Saying to Marty these these other agents want to nail you for what you're doing they want for your role in working with Navarro. I'm I want to offer you a way out by saying you get out you do eighteen. You don't have to. You don't have to talk from what I understand. Yes she said. Plead to a lesser offense right. But I don't know if that means that she would add that he would actually have to help the feds or not. Oh he would he would because she said what I want you to do. Is You. Plead to a lesser offense. You serve eighteen months in basically a country club prison. Yeah come out and you now work for the FBI trying to help us find people like you right and Navarro doesn't think that he ratted him out right. Not Scenario right. But I'm thinking like even if he did does he ever really think that he could with the amount of information he has to see ever really think he could get out of it for life and we know that he actually can't now because Wendy is in so deep with Navarro. I just don't I don't know yeah. Let's talk about that at the end. Okay we'll talk about that at the end but that was that was an interesting scene and all right then. We switched to an interrogation room. And it was trevor the FBI agent who Scott one of francs cronies from Kansas City Mafia. Who helped with the gunpowder on the boat and I mean they've clearly got him first of all like how did they not know there wouldn't be cameras all over the damn yeah. I think he didn't say that in the last episode. I did no okay. Well I mean I thought maybe they were smart and they had hats on and hoodies and things. I thought maybe they were smart about it but I guess not. So this guy they they nag him or they snag him and he. It's very clearly his face and the F. B. I. Saying like all right. Well we want you to give it up. And he's like okay. I'll do whatever you want and I'm thinking like when you're in the mafia even in Kansas City I don't think you just roll over and give it up. Yeah that seemed way too easy and I must have been. I must've been ma- making notes or thinking about something else because I don't have a good memory of the scene at all. It was pretty short. Seen them showing that we've got you clearly on video and we want you to talk. And he's like all right. I'll tell you what you want to know. But I that's not how it goes in the MA I want. I wonder if he's saying he's going to cause a lot of times. They play that angle. They say they're going to help. But then they don't actually help where they give them false information or they're just appeasing them for the moment until the Mafia can get them off. So maybe who knows or maybe this guy is going to give up Marty. I might be a problem yet. Right because Marty's not part of the Mafia. Yes so they don't have any allegiance to him so I don't know we see a sweet scene with sweet. That's not the right word. Wendy and Ben. You're not really sweet. Sweet she brought him costs. She brought a coffee. At first I thought she was bringing it to Marty. I'm like Oh that's nice then I'm like no that's not Mardi so that's been and it's clear that she wants him around because he's her biggest cheerleader and she needs that because she's not getting it from anybody else in the family right right. She doesn't deserve it. But you know right well then. We've got a really strange scene. I feel every scene with this girl. Aaron is weird yes. I didn't understand what was happening. Okay like she's sitting there by the water. Apparently Waiting Helen comes up and says something to her about before her friends come and she's like well. My friends are in Chicago. You know we. I don't know that was weird. And then she I don't know what else did she say it was just a she just said she comes nation. Her Mom said I love you and she goes. I love you too but she asked about her dad. How's how's Dad Toya? She asked how dash and beat him up right. So here's my prediction. I predict that Aaron is going to be the downfall of Helen. I think somehow she's GonNA learn because remember. Charlotte knows yes. And I've been Helen's been very clear about her kids. Not Knowing right and I think somehow errands GONNA learn that. Her mother is dirty and maybe ultimately responsible for. What's happened to her father and she's GonNa Bring her down. That would be fascinating. Mark my words fascinating. You heard it here first. So then Wendy's Wendy's calling Navarro and I'm like listen lady and she goes does doesn't call. Bff The head of the shot cycle. What can I do for you next? What hotels you sound like Wendy sold the fuck down and I knew that and now Marty is GonNa get in deeper and I'm just like you. Wendy stressing me out. God I know I know so Aaron and Charlotte Jones are all out on the boat and then the guy who you think looks like Frank. Juniors friend pulls up on a boat could be I don't know could be and the girls go off and at that point I realized Jonah has a crush on. Erin I did yes I thought he was just a creeper but oh no I got that I got that. Yeah he does. He has a crush honor and Charlotte's face though because shots like Oh shit. I'm going to have to go with her now. Yes she did not want any part of that and she goes Jonah. Can you just stay and watch our stuff? Yeah that's right. Yeah I know I feel bad okay. Then one of my favorite scenes. What am I barry? Favorite Scenes Ruth and Ben. Yes and she's sitting in the car. I'm like here we go. We knew this is going to be a love interest. Because I'd like to take you to dinner have lunch. How about BREAKFAST COFFEE GLASS OF WATER? And she finally smiles finally. I think that's the first time in this entire show that I've ever seen her smile. I think about it. Gosh I don't know I can't be the first time the first time so anyway it was. It was nice and I felt happy. Yes I did two for one brief moment in this episode I felt relaxed and happy and then and I didn't happy seeing. Reo speedwagon Sing Arias. Meghan they look good. They still sound the same. It's like some track and I saw people drinking Miller lite. They held their hands up. So like okay. Clearly there's there's a beverage of the ozark sponsor and then and then Marty is sidling up to Maya. Who's there listening to the show? And he says he's ready to cut a deal and at this point. I fear that it's too late. Then we find out it's probably too yeah And we end the show on an Oh shit and I am not clear is the mafia or is it the cartel. I don't know I don't I don't know who it is that that took him but they grab Mardi him and take him away in Ruth I I was like. Yeah Rhythm Ben go happened the car and they're chasing after him and then the escalade just like drives sideways and stops and the guy gets out and points a gun and rhythm banner like okay. We'll turn around. Yeah Okay so you know I mean I don't think they should have Obvious with their following though. Yeah they could've laid back up but I mean it was not an fast is not necessarily. I don't know my cars support. Phages the cargo. I don't know so I have to say not to be stereotypical. They looked a little. The driver looked a little Mexican to me. Okay well what do you think like my initial thought was that? Who when okay. When I don't even know if we mentioned Shannon Wendy was talking to Navarro member. His crony there was like saying cut with his neck. Cut Get off the phone. Navarro Navarro said the lines compromised and mayor hang up so my thought was. I have a feeling it is the cartel and the they tracked Mardi tracking her phone. Oh that's yes. And how's he going to explain? I'm not trying to set you up. I'm just trying to keep tabs on my wife. I don't think there's any answer to that. How the HELL'S HE GONNA get out of that? I'm stressed. Oh yes you do. Shannon Confession Time Shannon Confess. I did I did watch ahead. I did watch the Damn you so you already know one just one episode one episode but that is truly what I thought when I watched this episode. So I'm trying to forget what I saw. But after that ending of episode three my husband and I couldn't stop watching so I I'm only I've only watched for pay ourselves. I am I am. I won't do it again because I actually was the was harder for me to do this. Podcast having watched four because I was worried so I'm not GonNa do it again. I learned our lesson. You did not let the cat out of the bag as far as I know. No No. We'll find out all right. Let's talk about the symbols. Okay so the fingerprint. Which I am not sure. What that was symbolizing fingerprint. I mean that would have made sense for the episode where Wendy goes into the house but let's see fingerprints. Who would have left fingerprints somewhere? Was it maybe? When they they nailed the Mafia guy. Did they have fingerprints from him with the gun? Powder on the steamboat. Maybe maybe or I don't know all right. Well guys clearly missed something weird. I miss this one so yeah. Let us know you're gonNa tell us the microphone. I think that's REO speedwagon again. Yes that seems the obvious and the fist is obviously hitting Darlene yet. That yeah okay by the fist can be yes. Wendy power rising to power. I think the obvious one is Darlene in the fistfight. Yes and then. The fish in the fish bowl was the last symbol. And that's the FBI agent Maya's fish but it also symbolizes being watched Good one Good was so now. We get to our dirty dilemma. Where we're talking about. Who's got the big moral dilemma in this episode? And what would you do? I just want to stop for a second. Because Shannon has in her notes who's got the biggest oral dilemma fixed at would be a totally different question. All right moral dilemma. What would you do and we think the best one? We sort of alluded it earlier should Mardi take the deal with the FBI. Yeah Yeah I really wanted him to. When I heard Maya I talking to him of. I'm like that sounds like a great deal. I thought that getting lockout. Mardi do it. You know eighteen months is nothing in a country club prison right but the more I thought about it. I wouldn't trust anybody like I wouldn't trust that. She could actually get him that deal. Once you confess something or agree like right now. He hasn't actually confessed to anything. And once you do I feel like things could spiral out of control. That's bad would be. What would be worried I is? She said you know we can do this without you. Wouldn't have to witness protection program. I just don't see how he could go to prison. And then come out and Navarro would be like. Yeah all right. Well I guess we the ideas he's in jail the ideas Navarro's in jail. But the thing is you can't stop an organization like that we will be in jail. 'cause Marty's going to help them get Navarro Renault. No that was not the idea. I thought that was the idea. No that he is going to plead to something more insignificant but he's ultimately going to help them get Navarro but it's just not going to be a parent. That's what I'm thinking. I don't know guys I think. This one's open to interpretation winter. Help us understand what you think. The deal actually entails. And unless Shannon just gave a spoiler from wasn't a spoiler. Okay no okay no no I just think I mean on the surface. It's a good deal. It's a way out. And it's a legit way out where according to the agent you wouldn't always be looking over your shoulder for the rest of your life. But I do think that he would. I just don't think once you've had that kind of a relationship I don't think you can ever get out because you know too much right out. The grades behavior operation. I don't think you're ever getting out. I agree with you. Yes yes so. The lesson. Today is don't launder money for drug lord. I feel like we've heads are less than every day is just don't don't work for drug lord. Don't Piss off drug lord. Don't launder money for them. Don't cross them. Stay away from drug lert. That's right that's right so good episode. The seasons definitely picking up steam. I'm really stressed. This is why I can't watch them back to back to back because I just I get so stressed out. Well I can. I know you guys. What did we miss this episode? I'm sure we got some things wrong. And we missed a few things and we want to hear your feedback so remember and we've gotten a lot of feedback so thank you for that. Remember to leave us an email. Send US an email. Don't leave us. Send US an email. Stinger podcast at gmail.com or sham. You can call us three one five stink TV three one five seven eight four six four eight eight and just leave voicemail and we will play Your Voice Mail on the podcast or you can always connect with us on social media. We are at Stinger. 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Fantasy Mailbag, Top 5 TV Dramas (06/26 Fantasy Football Podcast)
"This is fantasy football today from CBS sports gov email us at fantasy football at CBS I dot Com. Time to dominate your fantasy, league. Of. Cheney abby Friday everybody. Welcome to the show. It's been a football today recording on Thursday afternoon, but it feels like a Friday at least to me. It does, and we welcome to the show. It's a I, think we. Should start doing top five fridays with random top five every week, and it came down to a few good candidates. I wanted I kind of wanted to top by stadiums, but that one didn't win so instead top five one hour TV dramas today. In addition your emails at fantasy football. CBS Dot. Com and your questions via apple podcasts review. What's going on Dave Heath and Ben Somebody Talk. Three dose weekend baby really hosting. All talk at the same time it's. All going to be I would be open for. Time to be silent as after Adam making a joke, no matter how good or how bad joke is. That's that's basically been what we've been doing for the last somehow in years. Past you gotTa, stop now a you give the old, deadpan and and. It's fun. The whole top five stadiums thing really threw me off like have you guys been to five NFL stadiums? So I asked someone to come on the show I won't say who. I said Hey, any interest, or what is your interest level of coming our podcast afternoon to give your top five NFL stadiums of all time we're recording around three thirty. You can just do the stadium rankings and be done, and he wrote none off so. Sounds like someone who I should get a drink to a few baseball games. I want to camden yards. That was a very cool stadium. That's a fun stadium. I've been to a lot of baseball. Yeah, a lot of them have been. Based Yeah. I didn't think it had a speed. Just football stadiums for the. Football stadiums in that case because like baseball stadiums have character and are different and interesting. You know heath. You live very very close to one of the best football. Stadiums. hardrock stadium is awesome now what it went from being the worst stadium. I've ever been to one of the worst to one of the best stadiums ever been to is. What is your over under for the number of times? I'm going to go to hardrock stadium in my life. One impact that you didn't go for the Super Bowl when your team was playing. Me To believe the over unders like zero point five I'd put it at zero point five great stadium, though all right. Let's get started here on the. Renovations and it's really awesome, so you can go great. The Hall of fame game is canceled. I don't think you have to. Out of the means like they're not gonNA. Play the season, right. They don't panic. Time for another over under like what's if I, set the over under on number of preseason games? Each team plays at two and a half. Would you take the over or the under right now? I would be under. Your I think they've pretty much been talking somewhat openly about playing games. That has a definite effect on the rookies, right? Oh! Yeah, it has a lot of effect on the depth. I mean it's to me. This Hall of fame game is is so clearly. Ex exactly that right like it used to always just be all the deep teams and the people, the teams that the players and the teams that play them play five preseason games right, so it's like. It's totally that fifty third to ninetieth man on the roster and I don't even think they're ninety man cut downs at that point. Are Maybe they are, but you have all these really you know unknowns and those guys aren't going to get any reps any chance to make teams. Will or the teams might say well. We know what we've got an our veterans. Let's let them rest, and we'll put our second and third stringers out there for the preseason games. Maybe, but I think you tuned up, you know. I I'm not sure I. Each team's different. The Rams and the bears. Last year didn't really play their starters very much I. Don't think the Rams will tell that workouts. Explain the preseason. Last year I went to one game where he played I think it was two series against the steelers and he was out of there. And made the elite elite might not apply order. Yeah. Maybe the veterans play one game in the the third stringers. Play the other. Yeah look. You don't need it in college football I don't I? Don't know why you need four preseason games in the NFL I think it's partially to get people to buy more to the season ticket. Holders have to buy the Games right. It's it's a scam. Right Okay Odell Beckham fully recovered from hip and Groin Surgery. He's a not controversial, but a polarizing player in fantasy played through injury all season long, and he's one hundred percent now so. We're a little split on Beckham here. Let's do some rankings. Let's do Odell Beckham Aj Brown. And Adam feeling. How would you rank those three? Beckham is a player. That I am getting a lot more excited about and is somebody that I'm strongly questioning. VIS-A-VIS AJ Brown and I I have them actually twelve thirteen right now I stopped brown ahead, and I still typically take brown ahead of Beckham, but I can very much see the case for taking Beckham ahead of Brown, both from my my favorite way of looking at upside perspective and also. You know floor and everything else and. I would take those two over feeling. Feeling at the top listen P P R I think he'll get the most targets. Brown next because I think he's more upside than Odell. Yeah Feeling Beckham Brown I. made the point on twitter and I hadn't really thought about this that. Beckham's most likely to be in the role. We saw Stefan digs moisture. Yeah, and that's pretty exciting role for player, though to help them skillset like he can hang the whole drop in targets, thing which is likely to happen. I think was too. Fancy is not near as scary. If? He has a chance to average seventeen yards per catch and I think he does. The issue is just that you know digs only on ninety four targets if they're good and they run the ball, and they control games, and they have so many short intermediate targets. You know you think about from the death perspective that I was talking about I think it fits as well. Landry and Heuberger and in job. Who is you know a little bit more fulfilled stretching? Stretching tight end, but he's obviously not a huge piece Kareem Hunt. All these guys are underneath options and Landry's eight outspent a little higher. What the BROWNS for a couple of years, but certainly the addition to hooper adds so much more to their to their short area sets that. It's just hard to beckham seeing monster targets well. Just want to tell you what we have coming up for you next week. Five shows I'm deterrent. We're going to have some top five's next week for sure. Dave came up with some really good ones, so they'll be on the schedule for next week. Hopefully it will be on next week. He might not be, but you'll get some combination, right. You will by the way we'll. We'll have an intro at some point. That has ben's name in it I promise I've been working on that for like a month and a half waiting on it. But mock draft Monday, and then some top fives sign up for the for the newsletter. CBS Sports Dot com slash newsletter, stay up to date with fantasy football content all offseason long news of the day editorial pieces updated rankings and more go to CBS sports dot com slash newsletter and you'll see. We have a bunch of newsletters that you can subscribe to, and obviously it's free right to your inbox and really good way to stay up to date big big news today breaking news, coming across the Wire Ladies and gentlemen. It's been Gretchen Birthday Happy Birthday Ben Gretch. We circle back to our. That was that you had announced because it's funny. You texted me the other day. I tried to get it going earlier. This season hasn't worked out yet. Intro, thank you thing but like I guess we'd be getting listener emails about it or something. Well, you're part of the team and you deserve to be the Intro I've tried to make that happen for a while. I'm waiting and waiting. It's going to happen and yes, people have asked me. When are you going to get ben's name and the email? So the intro? So how'd you birthday Ben so? Here's the game. We're GONNA, play real quick ben played eighteen holes today. Everybody guess what he shot Thursday so. Everyone's GonNa hear this Friday, but yeah. It was my birthday yesterday. Wish we have to be Amel. One of how many rounds of golf if you played in the last year, this was my fifth round in twenty twenty, and I always put the clubs away. Come August because okay football. So, it's been yeah. We're closest to that one over or. This is a good idea. We have the without going over. Just close to the pit I'm still mad at I say even one hundred. I was GONNA say. Ninety. I was insane ninety seven. WHO SORRY! As our wins. Shot. Today it was my probably my worst score of five rounds. One round was A. Scramble, another one I shot one hundred, but at a US. Open Course Chambers Bay up here but yeah, I didn't score very well at all, but I made two birdies and still shot a ninety nine. Somehow, it was a rough day. That's sounds like a fun birthday. Hope you have a good time tonight. Good time this weekend and happy birthday man. You'll be in the insurance. The confidence with the ninety, and I wish I could have played better and you can have been right. I, if you played ten times a year, and you're any good at all I. Guess you might shoot a couple like ninety five probably would've been a safe for guests, but my last full round where I didn't do a scramble I shot a ninety three, so you would have one on on that number. Okay? Now I have to scramble is so. Let's read some emails real quick. We're going to email. We're GONNA do emails now that we're going to do top five hour long TV dramas. then. We're going to do more emails and your apple podcast questions. Let's get started. This is from Anthony. Hey, Peter Ned MJ and flash. Man! Something okay. Peter Parker and Mary Jane is the Gallon Spiderman Right? Yeah, MJ okay well whatever I feel like todd. Gurley is coming in underrated this season. I don't understand why Melvin Gordon Aaron Jones are going ahead of Todd Gurley I know. He was unproductive last year, but I think with the much better falcons, offensive line, and a year off, his bizarre injury will bring back some of his magic also last year, it was reported that the Falcons really wanted to run the ball a lot more, but it did not turn out well, maybe because of their running back talent in two thousand nineteen. What are your thoughts? Not, really bizarre injury. He has arthritis in his knee. It's a thing that will recur and continue to recur and probably shorten his career. Like back to back in every draft, not always with Gordon going. I was very very close between those two. Yeah, I was just going to add. It's not his injuries, not dissimilar to what essentially push jj added a leak and JJ was everyone. Thought was fairly talented, running back, but. He has a degenerative knee condition I. Mean It's unfortunate, but it's the reality right I mean I'm not overstating this. He's on a team that like even with. Uneven talent running back just pretty much always splits touches amongst the running backs. Clipping said. He was managed throughout last year. And he played most every game I think. He sat out one game last year. So I don't know if the injury concern is as big of a deal as the efficiency concern. Can he scored ten touchdowns in Atlanta? Excuse me. I think he can score ten touchdowns in Atlanta. Then you've got to keep them on. Your radar is the top fifteen type of fantasy running back. If you don't think he can do it then. I think you stay away from him and he's being drafted close to the top fifteen right he is, but some of that has to do with the fact that there just aren't a lot of running backs that you can feel confident in as. Number, two guys, and so people just kind of gravitate toward girly. They draft him in the crossed their fingers. I will say I can. I can understand the pick in as far as you know. These guys that I typically don't love players in running backs news range in this type of player Yada Yada don't pay for past production. All these things have said. Atlanta's offense will score points, and it's going to be very concentrated, and they've typically always thrown on their backs Freeman has been a good pass catching running back in a good route runner, but I think some of that goes back to the offense and goes back to the quarterback goes back to the team passing volume so I think girly should be able to rack up a decent number of her sections in this offense as well. I think they're fairly committed to them to give them. A decent number a guaranteed money again about six million guaranteed, even though we had some offset money from rams after his release. About that I think it might have been five, but yeah, and he's you know Georgia product a you know. He's a local boy like I I. Don't think you'll be wild. They're like. Hey, this is our guy. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA. Let him be you know. Let him be the guy and really use him heavily because they don't have a ton of debt, but he's right I. Mean we haven't seen that Atlanta for a long time. Okay next email and thank you for the Question Anthony is from Jacob Grant Hey Adam. He's Jamie and Ben. Sorry Dave. You're not allowed to answer this barely half point PR redraft league. How big of a gap do you guys see between the top tier of receivers excluding Michael Thomas and the next year? So how big the gap between! Davante Adams Julio Jones tyreek, Hill, the Andrei Hopkins for us, Chris Godwin, and the next here. About. Fifty fantasy points. Three points a week. That's pretty big. NPR BIGGER PR but for like I have atoms and Julio. about about fifty points higher than that next tier. So I have held in Adams in my second tier, and then gap down to hooghly a little bit concerned about. Julio's Agen in all those things, but I is is going to be very good this year number four, but. That's where my gap hits and I like killing Adams quite a bit more than that next group. And that's why I have you know DJ or five. We were just talking about this again. This is PBR. I would say it's a pretty big gap and to illustrate how big the gap is my difference between Chris Godwin. And like number twenty five Terry maclaurin is half that. Interesting. All right the next question from Matt Steer. Dave you really were allowed to answer. That's okay. Dear Mike Doug Joe Ron. When you create your ranking Mike Doug Joe Ron. Mike Doug Joe and Ron are those Williams and Joe. Isan is that I was thinking Washington head coaches. Oh, Joe Gibbs and Ron Rivera. Mike Shanahan. WHO's the Doug? I don't know maybe maybe it's Doug from the TV show Doug when you create your rankings using projections. How much do the projected points have to drop for you to consider a player to be in a different tier and put these back to back? So I thought they were Kinda related for example to receivers with one point difference, it'd be the same tier two receivers with an eighty point. Difference would definitely be indifference tiers, so you know how the question is. How do you separate players into tiers based on their projected fantasy points? How many fantasy points at the between them? It's so dependent. Yeah, it's an art, not a science yep. That's way to put it. Okay a little bit I think it just really comes down to. What's your expectation for the player? And once you've got that for a player. You group them with other players who have the same type of expectation maybe within. Two hundred yards total. A touchdown here and there between players like there are players in my top five that are separated by more than ten points that I have in the same tier. But in the thirties or forties, if there's a ten point gap, that's a definite tear marker and that's you know, and that's just considering the raw projection numbers, but I know he for you and especially for me, we also have to consider that this is a baseline projection in there are upside and downside, and sometimes they are not symmetrical. Factors that we have to consider so sometimes. You have a guy who doesn't project very well, but you might have him in a higher tier because you see scenarios where his upside is a lot higher. Egypt can't project that. Like in a baseline for his team. All right last question before we Give you some. TV Talk. This is from Dan. You in Indianapolis Dear. Mardi Wendy Charlotte Jona. OSER! We'll ozark make the top five on anyone's list. We'll find out was wondering why. Why are the fantasy community was low in my opinion on Kenyan Drake? Guys have him around. RB. Seven PR RB eleven and non PBR fantasy prose half PTR hasn't been rb ten after Jacobson before Aaron Jones I don't see why. He can't be on the same level as mix and maybe even Dalvand, Cook especially with Hopkins, Spreading. The field in Arizona and pulling guys out of the box. Your thoughts guys on. Kenyan drake people too low on Kenyan drake I'm looking on NFC going eleventh overall, so no. HALF PR ADP on fantasy football calculator. He's going. In the third round twenty eighth overall. Fantasy Perot's think I'm looking at nine P pr. He's going twenty fifth or twenty eighth overall rb. B Twelve. Are. So. Where should Kenyan Drake Oh? Do you think the if he's going at the end of round two beginning of three and a twelve team league? Is that too late for Jake? I would take him a little bit higher. I think but. I think it's reasonable. He's twenty six, and he hasn't been ever like a fantasy stud where we're projecting out a lot from the late season. stretch and I. Know Towers in his. Arizona cardinals team preview. We have a lot of great team up on the site that we should probably plug at some point but We just released Chris wrote that one Chris Rock. Let's plug et, let's plug it. Heath read Chris's story. On the. Sonic. Christmas stuff never. Running joke he took. Drake says bus for breakout bus for each a key quote in he's projections in our rankings, and all the key information that you need to know about vacated opportunity, which this compiled for us a lot of great stuff in on team previews he picked. Drake is Boston part of it? He pointed out the drake, even when he was really great. With Arizona late last year it was a lot of that was to gain any at six touchdowns in two gains, who and I think over three hundred rushing yards in those two games, and then only hit like seventy yards in one of his other. You know seven or eight games with Arizona. We do know that the Arizona offense will produce running back point, so that's a good thing like chase. EDMUNDS had the three touchdown game big game in New York and David Johnson prior to that was scoring a lot. wasn't as efficient as a rusher, but was catching plenty of passes out of the backfield. The Concern Drake for me. We talked about in the slot show. Was Edmonds play a lot of time? Time David Johnson played out of the slot time and they drafted. You Know Benjamin who has a great receiving track record out of Arizona State and I think could also be pass catching They didn't use. Drake added slot a ton, even though he did have a good track record as a receiver at Alabama and at Miami is well. You wasn't as involved as a receiver last year, so that's got to improve. I think we've talked about how. We've talked about how talent and opportunity are two different things in two different factors and fantasy football, and when it comes down to it, opportunity is more important because talented players. Sit on the sidelines all the time. They can't get your fancy points almost there on the field, getting the opportunities and I think drake is going to be proof of opportunity being more important than talent in that he's. He's the lead guy in this backfield last year. I Know Edmonds is going to have a role, but last year there wasn't a game. There might've been one game. Where a second running back had more than six touches for Arizona. So when they have a lead back. They believed back, but he. There's no doubt he's inconsistent. You talked about how Chris Mention that there were two games were where he was on fire. He got a third of his rushing yards on eight carries winners Zona. It's kind of baffling that he he can have these big breakout runs, and then he averages below four yards per carry well below four yards per carry on. His is other runs outside of that, so there's a boom bust flavor to him, but the fact that he's going to get a lot of work, and it's in an offense that should be very good that that should get fantasy managers excited i. I do think he has a chance of total fifteen hundred yards this year. That puts them in the second tier for me, I wouldn't expect them to catch a ton of passes, but I would expect them to be pretty useful, and you know. The dolphins did not utilize them very much at all. There were only three games where he had fifteen plus carries in Miami he's already had four with. With Arizona. I I agree with the emailer I would take Kenyan drake ahead of Joe Mixon. Second I don't think Kenyan Drake is necessarily an opportunity over talent guy, because I believe is very talented in the two times that a team has treated like anything close to a feature back. He's been a top ten back for that stretch, and the he only had two good games thing. I don't really I mean. He had three games with over one hundred yards rushing. He another game where he had eighty three total yards and a touchdown so. And another game he got two games or six passes right. yes, so. Yeah I was just kind of sharing the cont the counter. Are Eight of Mixon's well. It was not two games. It was three games. Three. Games in three catches is a good game for wrangler. Yeah, all right, so he had three huge games had one very good game. He had four pretty bad games. Although one of those two of those games, he did have six catches so not that. He only had two bad games. That's fair well. He had nine point seven points and nine points I. I'd say three bad games. Focus on team at Tonto though and this is a small sample and we know the rest of the season for Arizona's I noted Chase edmunds had a great game. David Johnson was productive even while he wasn't playing well this this is an offense with cliff kingsbury out Murray that seems advantageous running back scoring. Yes, if you draft rake, get edmonds later like I think I. Think he's one of the good handcuffs to get. And I would say even if you don't draft drake, get edmonds later Arizona, running backs David Johnson weeks one through six top seven runningback chase edmunds seven, eight, top seven, running back of course I was one huge game in one terrible game Kenyan drake weeks nine, hundred, seventeen number, four, running back and fantasy, so they were all top seven running backs. In there you know short window is where they were the future guy for Arizona. Okay coming up. How can a guy who's never seen the Sopranos and hates the wire? Actually give you a top five list of one hour TV dramas because he's the host of the show and that's coming up next. On my list by the way we're all giving lists then we've got more emails more of your questions at Apple podcasts coming right back on fantasy football today. For this program and the following message comes from the comedy central podcast. 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I think it's hysterical that we're GONNA do a top five TV dramas list where one of US barely watches TV. That's me. One of us has watched the sprinters. That's Adam I. Don't know how much TV heath and Ben Watch del cover this list, but I think it's hilarious. They're doing this I. don't even have five TV shows on my list. Four! Yeah I, I, I will. Be Acid in he going. Off Adam is lists. Because like we need all, have a top five. Wilson. I'm being honest about seven. All right sure I don't miss. that. Wow Okay so let's just to get it out of the way Oh. You don't have a complete list, so just listen to Heath's and steal one from heath, and then we'll go to you okay so. You, show that I've never watched. You have seen several the shows that we're going to say you just forgotten about. Because he's existed for a long time, and there was a point in your life where you watch more TV than you currently do so the top five TV shows in the first division CSI. NCIS CRIMINAL MINDS CSI in Miami and Star Trek the generation now in the non. Non Cvs. Those are obviously the top five. K, yeah I had to say. You're the same topic. Midget the non CBS division. I've got madman number one. Oh! That's good I. Forgot about that. Breaking bad number to. See I don't think it's top five show for me Friday. Night Lights number three. Homeland Number Four. And Stranger things number five. I'd stranger things inaudible mention. I have a a confessional mate as a football analyst. It seems a little. On smart. My wife loves it. Never watched Friday night. Yeah me, either I saw the movie. I never I never. TV. Show is show much better. I always thought football shows were so poorly done. In an excellent show that also happens to have football and everyone says that. Football fan he says that, and I still have never gotten. It's so enjoyable like you. You can binge it just watching now it's still I think it's still an Netflix interesting. I've never seen madman. So I've never seen the Sopranos. I've never seen babette's ridiculous. One of the shows that heath mentioned he's. He dropped the names of twelve shows and I've watched one of them. Stranger things stranger. Mine now so that. He filled it out. ozark has to be on it. Are you going wants to? People? Don't like how game of thrones end. You got to rank them Ben. You can't just say. Number, one is game with routes. People don't like game of thrones ended I just WANNA. Be This is this is not just a a TV advice. This is not just applicable to fancy football. This is life advice. Expectations determine how you feel about things. Game of thrones set expectations so high, but a huge part of how they got there was because of how sprawling the world that they created was, and how other characters are doing all these different things? They had to bring them all back into one place. At one point, it was destined to fail in some way or another. I hate the way they treated the white walkers, and how all that finished like after they built it up after over all those seasons, but at least they tied most of the characters. You Know Arc's with bows and. It was a bad ending, but they can't. Just how high the reason! We all hated the much because of how they set the bar for so many years. That show was so good. You're right Ben. They should've the evil flesh eating zombies better. For Two Thrones wires to wires awesome. I started with season to like a lot of people season three, probably my favorite season of television I know it's like a Cliche, but it's that good. And I didn't watch that until a couple years ago, I wash it way after it was dated, and all the technology was dated amazing. I'M GONNA put Ozark it three. It's still going on in Toronto. Thinks the best show currently on TV is so good. I'M GONNA. Take from Heath and Use Madman and I guess I'll maybe put that four number put better call Saul on this list I think is better than breaking bad easily. You better start a threat right now of Ben Gretch bad takes. That is worse than anything. I've ever said ever better. Call Saul better brakebast, not even like A. Rare shake! There's a lot of people. Have made that the worst take of of F. F. T. history you out of the intro. How about how about a twitter poll? I okay? And then a honorable mentions for the Americans had just finished, I really really liked just didn't think it was good. Enough I'll put breaking bad horrible mention. I almost was thinking about adding men in the hightower, just because I'm a history buff. And I thought that was a really interesting show. I didn't really like what a with everything, but like much. You get the name of it wrong. Man The hightower. Castle. which very good show it is well. Sorry. Yeah, your top five Dave turned my top five. My top four, because it's one of the shows that I've actually watched. All right, Dave. Unveil your top for the was number one for me. So Re watchable, it's so great. Amazing characters layers every single one, and you didn't know who's GonNa die each week. Made it fun and compelling. Number two for me is the walking dead. It's not nearly as good now as it was three or four years ago. I think the early seasons are definitely watchable I. Like that show a lot stranger things is third for me on man and high castles fourth. These are also the only one hour drama shows that I've seen in the last fifteen years. Okay my list I. Think you guys know what number one is for me right? I said all the time. My favorite show ever. Remember I know it's a police show, yeah! Yeah Yeah. I don't know the name of the shield. Sealed okay. shiels number one not not the not about like the superheroes. It's like a police officer shield correct, correct the shield. Breaking bad to game of thrones three. You have the wrong narcos on your list Yeah, the wrong netflix. Show on your list Ben. It's narcos is actually slightly better than Ozark. Third when I'm sorry game. This is good, but not better than those are. But narcos Mexico I'm not counting I'm counting the three seasons of the Columbia. Edition Columbia one was great, not better. Better than it was like. It's a drama, but it's like based on a true story. It's not not better than it was but okay. What's life five is the leftovers and I'm just say it's the most unique show I've ever seen it doesn't nobody said lost some never see. Lost loss loss to the three that I probably need to see our loss Sopranos and Madman, the ones that I wanna try again are the wire and shameless is great by the Web I've never seen it. Start to finish better call. Saul I kinda gave up on after three seasons I. Want to pick it up again. Oh. Oh, you know so well that breaking bad is better than better. It is all, but you haven't actually watched, I've seen seventy five percent of it episodes such an age. As in front soprano. Started a couple years ago and I only got into season. Two I can't say that it just didn't keep me and I. Didn't I didn't stick with it. I'll probably go back to at some point I'm not going to sit here and say spells badge. How did show better call? Saul was bad at a set. It's not better than breaking bed breaking bad was. I watched three seasons I watched a lot of it all right. Dexter on honorable mention sons of anarchy, stranger things, billions of great magic city I only saw one of the two seasons magic city season. One is as good as anything. I've seen, but I recommend the leftovers it's it's unique you don't. It's not one of those shows where people have to die for it to be good, which I think is kind of a lost art these days, so give it a shot sites. You said billions I haven't seen that one yet, but it reminds me of succession which I do like I heard very good things yeah. All right cool, thank you guys. Good stuff I've almost got the consensus top five. Okay, all right well. I'll keep talking. Figure it out. Email, forty is breaking bad game of Thrones Madman Sopranos and the shield. What No. Stranger. Stranger interesting you guys both things is fourth. And so we'll put the sopranos fifth. Wire. None of you guys had the wire I'm. The wire is is is the boring version of the shield. If you really stop during the season to season season, what that's supposed to just keep watching bad shows. I tried game. Everyone says the wire is amazing. And this is why I stuck with it because it is slow the beginning, but if everyone says it's amazing, then you watch it. That's what Chris Towers tries to tell me about parks and rick. Everybody agrees it'll. Season is awful. You just have to get through the first season I. Don't WanNa Watch. Higher Season I. The first season six episodes I think so. There's that you don't even have to watch it. You can clearly just skip season. One parks and REC is awesome. You're right Ben I. Do want to give the wire and other shot I. really do I just I was so bored watching six episodes I was like. What is the hub, but all right I'll give it another shot season. Three is where you're like. The summation. season. Two of the shield is where you're like. That's the thing you gotta come strong season two. I can sit through one okay season two seasons. Give me a break, but like that's the thing about homeland and you gave up on it after one bad season I believe which was season three that the first season of homeland might be the greatest season in television history. I mean it's it's great. It's really up. It's incredible second one's good, and then it's. A one season wool, and then it has a phenomenal finish. Just don't carry to give up on things. I do a lot of shows out there. He you know ever since I quit soccer when I was like seven years old I realized that giving up is so smart. You just you don't do things that you don't WanNa do. and. Move on to better things that are more fun we have. Preliminary results with four hundred forty four votes in breaking bad receiving sixty six percent of the vote and second place see results at twenty one percent in third place better call Saul at thirteen percent. All right here we go I didn't get the. It was good. I really liked it I, binged it, but I will say you're. Bad or slow starts or bad for seasons for new investment, seeing game of thrones might worry about that game of thrones, so that's another reason so great just starts hot and stays. Hawk! You're right, comes out swinging, and the thing is I don't think it's the best show ever because I think at times, sort of resorts to there's a there's a funny like Andy Sandberg. Skit on L. About it. where it's just like nudity murderer. Here's kind of boring episode. Well, let's decapitate someone. Resorts to that. So I don't think it's the best, but I. It is the one that I recommend. What's one show that you have to watch? Game of thrones is the most fun show that I've ever seen. And visually very. Appealing so watch okay. Now, it's tough. Football emails part do. You brought up on a couple of podcasts from Louis the issue of what happens if one of your players will be ruled out last minute due to covid nineteen. Can you address ideas as to who would win the League? If the season's cut short, MBA or NHL say there was a second wave and they just stop the season. What do you do dave? I think win. Total will determine your winter. Pretty simple right points totally wins over one their money back champion. Well if you don't want to do that, if well home on. If. It's week twelve and we've been playing fantasy football for. A dozen weeks already. You're just going to cancel everything that's been done and give everybody their money back. Yes, not chronic champion well an our leagues by week twelve. No one's actually page it. It'd be hard to collect. Commissioner is. This is tough, but we actually had happened in our xfl league, and we just I mean it was easy enough there because I. believe is Jamie. Who when he had the most wins and the most points and it was like. Are you want? But sometimes it's not going to be as clear and stuff it should. That one league where I got so many points than. The multi sport thing I'm GonNa Fantasy on a fantasy. Yeah, ever get my points. Your fake points for college basketball when they didn't put the tournament. All Right, okay. There's poker. Consensus. I will guarantee you. There's a banner hanging from. Allen Field House at some point future. I guarantee you NC double is GonNa. Take it away. On Dustin from Miami Dear Steve Carey Vince and Ryan. This one. We should get Steve Kerr, Vincent Ryan got. Titans quarter. That's good. I'm in the final year of a team non PTR keeper league that resets after every third season. We keep two players from the round. They were drafted in drafting eighth, so I'm keeping Davante Adams in the third round. Who should my second keeper be Kamera? In the first non Pr Kamara in the first in the fifth or drake in the sixth. I love all the detail in the email. I think it helps determine the chimeras. The pick I know it's not as good a value as Ecuador Drake, but you've got Alvin Kamara for a long time. No, no, this is the final year. This is just one year. On Year. Yeah I read that you read the details. I know I- resets after every third season I'm in the final year of attend team was actually why would take? Chimera! I'm going go the other way from Dave. Is that sometimes? It's great to have these these later values. Maybe you can hold for multiple seasons, but I don't mind thrown away because you know you don't have multiple life in the fifth could end up being great for multiple season right, and then you keep them anyway. This could be the difference though between what. Drake and I think I, do a drake. There's a big difference between who you're going to get in the first and sickness league. So many keepers out of the pool and you got to remember the I like the third is more like the nets. MAKES ME, want America private number one pick in the redraft portion, and you're not gonNA. Get him back. This doodle have two first round picks and a second round. Pick in this league that he can't keep after this year now that I've read everything. I'm sticking with the cameras. wiki drake. Okay to cameras, Drake, this is Stephen Lancaster Pennsylvania. Our draft allows us to keep one player from the sixth round on for the following season fourteen rounds PR's one QB. Right he's got. Some choices here who you keep in oss six this PTR. Echo in the six DJ more in the seventh cuyler Murray in the twelfth or Kareem Hunt in the fourteenth. More next question. Out here. Would, he doesn't say is. Can You keep more again the following year? Or! Maybe he says and I. Just read I read the email twice now or again because he's. One year one year. You know that. Because you get to keep one player from the sixth round on for the following season. It's more. It's more. Right to be, so we probably got to be actor. All Right Davis breaking ties going after this is from Kevin Dear. Nick Ron Randell Donovan Eagles quarterback. I've got quite the stable of wide receivers in my PR. Twelve team. Dynasty League I've Got Hopkins. TYREEK Davante Adams Chosen Chris Godwin. Original Lesions. We start to wide receivers and to flex spots each week I need to decide which of these guys to sit. which wide receiver should I trade and what kind of value can expect in return? No one wants Julio because he's quote for Dynasty. Options? Trade Hopkins yet bright. That's the first guy would try and move he. You can get forum if you can get a good deal for him. Then move them and the second guy and it's going GonNa be a little weird, but if you can't get much for options, it would be Godwin for me. I understand as the youngest and your future, but this Marty has an old core. You have a narrow window. And I got one. That's maybe a little bit overvalued as much as I really do like him. I I just so much has changed in Tampa that I think there's a lot of. Positive expectation and you can get a lot out of him. You could get a really good running back at him I think. Would you at least consider seeing what you could get for Davante Adams Chart Yeah. He's twenty seven to. Him Okay. What are we getting for them? Though he's Joe, Mixon enough. He has mixing no. Nixon signed a contract. Your might hold out and we don't know what his next contracts going to be. He's not a guy. I'm targeting is. I would. Just make been furious. But I would trade deandre hopkins for US nuclear. You think annual extra with him. You think got like a long-term. He's got A. A four year deal. We've never seen as a feature back. I don't even know the person who has would give would do that deal. I think Equa plus it'd have to be rich running back. Can we be clear on his four-year deal? He's already twenty five and wow. It's not. It's not a monster deal. It's it's a good deal, but it could easily mean that if he doesn't carry the load well that he has being the second piece of a committee like he was with Gordon. And, it could mean that for twenty twenty for all. We know I think he's overvalued in dynasty easily twenty twenty one be back to like a change of pace role, but he could also break out even more than twenty twenty. Sure he could very well Gary value for the next three years. which is what I would hope for if I had learned honesty. Godwin though I think you could try and get like Mouth Sanders. Yeah, I was GONNA say Miles Sanders I. Don't know how everybody views on this podcast. We're a little higher on him, but I think I would trade. Any single one of these wide receivers for miles sanders. That'd be the first thing I try to do I think Ben would be with me on that I. Don't know about David leave. But. Yeah, that's I would not trade tyreek atoms for Sanders. I would probably shared, but I wouldn't trade. Terry accused still younger. I wouldn't Godwin. Other. I think all of those guys would be hard sells adding. Both When I probably draft Godwin over Sanderson Dynasty. So that's fair point. Okay all right. This is from no name dear. Derek Bruce Travis and Jean. Figure it out. How do you feel about the friendship strategy for the running back position I feel there are some interesting opportunities this year to make this work especially with the rookie running back class this year, and the possibility of them being behind where they usually are in a normal season. Oh, these are leased directly. Bruce Lee Travis Lee and dreamily. The hell is that. I don't know. I don't know what's interesting. Jean leads. Tragically Thomas and Bruce Smith in thinking Trenton sack. Guys for hosting. And Travis Henry. Bruce Emery. I. G for running back is fine. If they're late, round dies I. Mean I think there's certainly some opportunities like you said Miami's maybe one Tampa Bay's may be one where you can get two guys in like the seventh and eighth round that are both. Ideally one of them will emerge every week starter. You're doing with the forty niners to. You invest in most hopefully. It doesn't cost you a top. Fifty pick. Probably not even atop sixty pick, but you get moster. Not a lot of people are hot on the trail of Kevin Coleman. In yet both those guys on your team. That's the team that loves to run. The football. Bills are another one single Terry and Moss. Ills are great one. He really should have remember Travis Lee Baseball player. Played for Tampa Bay remembers looking Philidelphia's. The first Baseman to they're both first Baseman for embezzle Bruce Lee was a shortstop, right? Gene, was a famous murderer I just. I googled to all right. Here's one from James Charlie Dennis and Mac. Sunny from the UK here ten teams super. FLEX CPR leaks point passing touchdown. To Shawn Watson. For a seventh round pick is that. McCaffrey has been kept for the eighth overall pick and SAQUON for the second overall pick. I have the fourth pick in the draft if he's still on board. Would you take Patrick Mahomes or should I go with one of the remaining top running backs, so he's not going to get Barclay or McCaffrey. Super Flex already has a Shawn Watson Pr. It's ten teams. Would you take Patrick Mahomes or an elite running back homes? I always like to have a a lineup. That is a differentiator. The smaller my league gets I think tennis small enough. Where if you've got mahomes into Shawn Watson starting every single week. You should have a pretty sweet edge over the rest of leave. This is from Luke no penalty for the round there drafted. Who Do you pick between two Sean Watkins Josh Jacobs Andy Andre Hopkins. Sean Watkins I. Don't even know that I say that. Yeah. The Shawn Watson, Josh, Jacobs and De'andre Hopson. Jacobs Hopkins Yeah. Okay and Garett Tuck is in a twelve team half PR, dynasty, League. Give Up Miles Sanders what? Give a Mile Sanders to reap receiver Tariq, Cohen. Michael Gallup? And it's twenty twenty one first round. Pick better. Get a lot back. Mile Sanders to Rico and Michael Gallup and twenty twenty one first round. Pick get back, Alvin Kamara and JUJU SMITH SCHUSTER It's a lot. But I really liked Camerin Judy. Yeah. I am updating the trade short tomorrow. I don't think that I would probably do that. Yeah I. It's really close, it's. You gotTa Have Kamerhe over Sanders, and you gotTA have Juju over Gallup by lot and maybe by I. Chimera. Though how concerned are we about? This being drew brees is last year, and it also could be chimeras last year with the saints as possible sure, but like would you take sanders over him and stop draft? No, no. But I just want to bring that up. I think it's closer than than than it sounds in redraft Seattle and it could look where you went on the sanders side is if you nail the twenty twenty, one I with a wide receiver, and there's going to be good wide receivers next year's class, but you can already get Juju who even if he if he doesn't pan out with the steelers, and they trade him reciting their contracts somewhere else. He's going to have good appeal on that second team. I just be. Yeah I'd get new. Jobs very good. But juju is is You know as much as he had a bad year last year. He's one of my favorite dynasty off season. He's still only what is at twenty three until November late November. He's done so much in his career at this point and he was very good. College is well. There's almost like. Node track record for a guy being as good as he was as young as he wasn't as good as he was in college, and then suddenly not being good anymore like there isn't tracker for guys having a blip like he did last year, and then coming back and being good again. Like Mark Cooper is a guy that comes to my mind immediately, it was very good early in his career, very good in college, and then struggled a little bit with Oakland Susan Was Dallas he was very good again. I'm interested to know track record of players who like. The best way to say this you got kamera potentially with no breeze. You've got. I don't know a possibility that Ben Rothlisberger is an on the steelers next year. Maybe he retires, he's getting up there. track record of really good players that no longer playing with great quarterbacks. Chimera as far as Kamara as far as any God playing with an aging quarterback, you know. WHO. Peyton manning really was not good when he retired had horrible final season like Beckham Beckham goes from having one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time to Baker Mayfield objects kidding. But not don't know I'm trying to say like. How does the dynasty value from Michael Thomas? Micheal Thomas Value Affected by the possibility that drew? BREES is playing, and before you say well look what he did with Teddy Bridgewater he i. I feel very strongly that if you've played a full season with Teddy Bridgewater, he would not put have put up the same numbers, even though the pace was very similar to what he did for the full season, because it was one game against Tampa, bay where he went beserk and other than that you know he was. He was great, but he wasn't the same as what he was with drew brees. So I don't know how how you consider that in Dynasty Leagues, and if that's a big factor for you. That's Thomas who had one game where. He was really good with bridgewater, but it was boosted by the one game against the box. I think the stat was. He played six games of Bridgewater. He had a hundred yards in two of them. He played ten games with brees. He had a hundred yards in eight or nine of them, so he even though the pace was very similar with bridgewater with brees. I believe that if they had kept playing out the season and he didn't just have that one game against Tampa, Bay would have been pretty different, still great, but pretty different that make sense. I was just GonNa say Kamara was a lot. Almost better as a receiver with bridgewater, which I thought was really interesting he had. Like I. Think Three like eight catch games Maybe, it's four I'm actually looking game lock now now. The last one came after Bruce came back, but the overall question is how much do you downgrade a wide receiver? Situation, specific, I think you're right about Thomas, and I think for Kemira, I'm less concerned recognizing that Sean Payton System still operated very similarly with the high target, two running backs, and maybe that was just bridgewater, who similar with the underneath rowing, and maybe it wouldn't be the same Guy James or like with Tatum, but the fact was getting so many targets. Still I felt like he could still be productive in a way that. I do agree with your take. You traveled Thomas to a full season. He's not the same guy, but I actually think Kamara might. All right. So this question on Apple podcast now. Ken Be Seven eight nine one dynasty. Help needed hey tommy. Tommy and Ben Oh Terry Cordell Tommy and Ben. Stiller's Ski. What's going on this very? Strange theme today. Should I. draft running back or wide receiver with the third pick of my rookie draft I have Mile Sanders. Austin Eker, Moster, and David Johnson. I have Davante Adams Amari. Cooper Robber Woods Emmanuel Sanders. Wow, it's really good. Who would you take a running back or wide receiver? I would take a running back. Which one! Well, goes Edward Solaire and Taylor. We taking Dobbins. For the long-term appeal that he has in Baltimore, that's my active now. If you're just dead set on taking, receive retreat back a couple of spots. Okay. This is from Neil, J. Love the show. I'm relatively new to fantasy football, but your show held me catch up quickly. Question. Should I trade Calvin Ridley for Raheem Mostert? Jerry Judy and a half. PBR Dynasty League. I lack running back depth, so give up really most Jerry. Judy knew. Who Knew? All Right? This is the dread pirate Roberts from a town west of Saint Saint. Denise saint-denis. Dono Seattle great sure. I've ever. Hey, Troy Abed Jeff Anne. Another! Watch a good one. I'm the Commissioner of Fourteen Pr League where you can keep one player from the previous year in the round. They were drafted provided. You drafted them and kept them on your roster the entire season. You can keep the same player multiple years in a row, but around you take them goes up. This year I'm picking fourteenth in my PR draft I can keep McCaffrey in the first or kittle in the ninth, and I'm at an absolute loss this. McCaffrey's last year of eligibility. We? Cafe in the first fourteenth overall or kill them in ninth. That's probably right. It's just so hard to lose with him. I'd be so good. All righty coach Pap oh says. Would love to hear more auction talk. I'd like to hear your your ideal auction. Teams based on a two hundred dollar budgets. So. Here's what we're going to do. Even better coach. We're GONNA. Do An episode pretty soon. We're GONNA do an auction on the air just going to record it. And you'll listen to it, and hopefully you'll love it. We've done for baseball. It's been really fun. The listeners really liked it, so we can do it for football. And can't wait. All Right Ben. Big Birthday plans. No actually not really. The Golf was the big plans. I'm sure my kids in life have. Plenty more ways to spoil me Mexican. Food feeling like maybe she Mexican food. That's what I do on my birthday difficult. I mean maybe. We, we've done that before. I just was wondering like. It's festive fluid it celebrate. It is it's good for that. I have a great weekend. Everybody thanks so much for listening. Really appreciate. It's been fun. We've got five episodes for you. Next week talked on Monday today for Heath Event I'm out of. What's up? This is Barton Simmons and I'm bought. and. This is the newly formed Barton and bud show. If you're looking for Recruiting Information College Football Information Coaching analysis how all those things intersect and come together then you're in the right place and this is the podcast. This is your chance to eavesdrop on the conversation. We have in the twenty four seven sports office every week. Subscribe to the Barton and bud show where your podcast.