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019: The Execs Behind Disney+ and HBO Max

The Streaming Wars

37:48 min | 1 year ago

019: The Execs Behind Disney+ and HBO Max

"You're listening to the Stream was the podcast that discusses all the latest happenings regarding your favorite streaming services. Find out which Savvas is winning the war this time around. Aw walking lease episode of the Stream wars this Cimarron. We're doing a little bit different while twenty is joining me. We're GONNA be talking about a couple of specifically topic that has popped up for the past week One that's If you listen to last week's episode on Tuesday Newsday that we released or on Wednesday when you heard it. If you listen to that episode. We talked about how we're GONNA talk about John Stinky interview. Well it turns out. There was another interview that happened. It is part of the same events that we also WanNa talk about an interview with Kevin Meyer from Disney plus. He's an executive that kind of the the the face of the executives behind Hind Disney pluses. A service so there was so we're going to talk about those two interviews. We're not talking about news this time around. Obviously we prerecorded this to release while we are actually taking the week off because we we want to discuss the city at a higher level than what we have been having time for so so basically t to give you a little bit backstory behind what this event was there is. If you're familiar with the Website Fox or if you've ever heard of vox media they have a subsection of their cy called recode and on their actual citation talks about how this section of their website talks about digital aspects. And how how they're changing the world and US and they had an event where they had pre much big name people from the world of of Tech and the digital side of things to discuss what their companies are doing for what what what their companies are doing digitally to change the world around us and US so there's a number of different ones there. was you know facebook had someone. They're talking about stuff. They had people from other companies but the ones that are worth mentioning for US specifically here is that they had the CEO of one media. John Stinky there and he he was asked the number of questions. A lot of the questions dealt with what actually was talking about at For the HBO. Mac's announcement that was just a couple of weeks back. The the entire gist of the conversation was all about. HBO Maxon what they're expecting and what they're doing and kind of clarifying some of the things that were potentially unclear at the the point of the announcement a couple of weeks back the other one was Kevin Meyer who says behind his plus and while they're aspect is way their entire the conversation about Disney pluses completely different. They're not talking about what he's coming. They're talking about well. It just launched. So so what can we do. You know what a what we let's talk about. How the launch wins? What we're expecting what what to expect in the future for the service? What changes have you or what what issue who says has risen from the launch? Things like that so completely two different ends of the spectrum because one is already out one is not and kind of getting these executives perspective of their respective respected services. So we're just start with the John Stinky one. Because that one was there was the first interview that had popped up but there was. There was the big headline that came out of the John. Stinky interview is not so much that they're looking to replace net flicks but that they are looking to become the next cable bundle. Meaning they'd already talked about this at the H.. Max Investor Event they. They had a couple of weeks back about how did every intention of trying to pair. HBO Now with their current. At and T. TV now we talked about. At and T. TV now the other live streaming television services Just last week but the intent is that. At and T. TV now is a replacement for cable television. which as as we know? At and T. and direct TV which is all part of the spray eighteen Uber's and direct TV. Those are services that continue to lose subscribers in in a a very fast rate. So they're really going to be trying to push this new bundle conveniently it's also interesting because eight thousand nine hundred now just raised. Their prices is to sixty four nine thousand nine and I believe this interview took place before the price increase went into effect. So there wasn't a really discussion about that but it became almost whilst one of the Roy became one of the most expensive live streaming TV services are available and while there's talk about the other services out there also raising the prices who's it was reason their price next month it begs the question of. How are they really going to push this service? If it's one of the more expensive ones and their intent is to use it as a replacement for cable services as a company if the intent was to also bundle it with. Hbo Max so my my question. I WanNa believe with you because I know you watch the interview. What do you think I mean it definitely feels like HBO? Max is an add on service to. At and T. TV now. Wow and that's what they're intending on doing and they'll intend on offering other add on services to at and T. TV now but it feels like they're basically creating what I would like to classify as the very Hulu based system. They're already got the live. TV But if they start having these other services that you can tack back onto it like Hbo Max. And that's a huge focus. It gives you a reason to subscribe to them rather than Hulu which is obviously a direct competitor when it comes to Disney and Warner brothers. So where do you. Where do you see this going? Because it doesn't feel especially based off of this interview it doesn't feel like their focus is rolling out a streaming services like netflix which we've talked about before Privately and on the podcast about how it definitely feels like their international rollout is not a priority which everyone would expected to be based off of what we've seen from the growth for Netflix. The growth that Disney plans to have with rolling their stuff very very quickly in the near future for Disney plus. It feels to me at least that the brand has a whole could be potentially diluted in order to push this streaming TV service. At least. That's what I got out of the interview. So what did you get. My take is a very interesting time. This is the Disney portraits for about one to two weeks out in terms of you know being a mature service and Apple. TV It's been out since the beginning of the month and it's about three weeks by now and it's taking those services. Those are very much in terms teams of modeling after Amazon. In in Disney. I'm sorry in flex percent in terms of the model t H. He was like. It's playing a weird game. I kind of do agree with you. You in the fact of its kind of looking more to just being bundle per se. I'm a conglomeration conglomeration of of different things. But it but it also is. It's hard to categorize White Loyd. Hbo Max is trying to be because it's still part of the portfolio in one thousand. Nine T has its cable services so you have eighteen now you have. Hbo Oh you HBO go. Yeah all these different painters. We keep repeating over and over again. It's just been hard for me to distill. Can what is his vision for all this different stuff. I think the WHO model is pretty interesting and so if if people don't know who has it's based off a thin it's also has the ability to plug in in essentially added different channels quote approach to these other services stars. Hbo and stuff like that. I think that's the most creative approach to go because what's really more important is it's the platform right and it's not the content adversary. Netflix is the content in the platform. More essentially phenomena synonymous. They're they're the one in the same Disney plus same thing. WHO's a little bit different because it it is crater but it also has the ability to leverage other partners into its fold nets what? HBO IS TRYING TO BE IN. My opinion is to to be so flexible. You can get the TV if you want it but if you don't that's fine if you want Hbo Max Stuff. That's fine. That's great if you want to get another partner channel like that's great That to me seems seems like what. Hbo Max is trying to be kind of honestly makes more sense for H. B. O. Surf away to eighteen. Wermeer trying to do there has been some questions of wall wondering he doesn't bring back some of its shows. That's been licensed out to you because as we've talked about multiple episodes that one likes to their content for other studios Free three the TV television project projects were projects right. So they're not like bringing all that stuff inside in in house they're letting others to do things and they're gonNA do the ears as well and licensing AGREEMENTS MCLEAN LA in that kind of is reflected into its visits. Hbo Max is trying to do as well as basically here's our stuff then from there you can add on you can leverage different parts and stuff that you want together and their ego different. I don't think it's a bad strategy. I think it can work. It's just unfortunate. It's just a bunch of moving parts of trying to get stuff done because not only do you have to you. Organiz with outside partners it's like. At and T.. In order media. They still have to coordinate with them themselves in fortunately. At's IT can media. Strategy is still a little little bit scattered per se my opinions just like okay like we wanna go down this direction. We want to essentially replace the subscribers. We lost fairly direct. TV In cable subscriptions we want to replace the revenue was something else in their hails going to streaming. And that's fine but it seems like it. Things are still a bit a little lost and it fragmented so I go uh-huh. HBO's trying to do. I do agree with you in terms of the plugin system partner system. HBO is still a little bit in my opinion further away from the goal of where they want being what they WANNA do. But I think it's a it's definitely different. Not Bad different just different. The thing for me is the quote that stood out from this interview which will have the interview from for for this. We'll have this interview in the show notes. The thing that stood out to me is that he said we are currently the FR Consumers are in the process of re bundling. They're not they're not getting Telephone Internet and cable maybe just getting interact. And you know. They're basically cutting the cable cord and then there's people who are. Not You know they just going wireless listener just using their wireless carrier obviously. At and T.. Has the advantage of being not only a wireless carrier but also a carrier for in home cable telephone own and Internet for a good majority of the country and or at least a possibility of of a provider for a lot of the homes in America. And I think to me while consumers are unbundling his reference was well people are GonNa start re bundling things. They're going to start doing and I don't disagree. We've talked about this before about how you know if you added up Disney plus and you add. Hbo Max and You had Hulu and you had apple TV. Plus you add all all these together. You're still creating your own personal bundle based off the continent you want to see. There's nothing necessarily wrong with that. But it can be frustrating frustrating in the sense of you know you have to go to all these different services to try to find something and they he. Hbo Max Has Gone on about how they're they're going to be doing a lot of human content curation which I don't I mean like it'll definitely be better than the algorithms. It's a Netflix is used while they've gotten better over the years. There's been issues without sexy but that's right. It's not it's not like it's the to me. There's no advantage manage to that. There's like it's it's such a small advantage that it means nothing. I personally do not want somebody else telling me what to watch. I don't want to do you know the in the investor meeting. They showed a clip where you can click on a celebrity and the celebrity would suggest something for you to watch. That's not something that I'm going to use. Imagine imagine the majority of the grant. HBO Subscriber Base. which is is is skewed older rather than younger is not going to use a feature like that so to me? It's not a future. That's really going to sell them. But they keep talking about it and it's like they're trying to aim that specific aspect towards a younger audience which is fine but I just I mean like obviously there are plenty of people that they are convinced to watch something because somebody else says to watching that tends to be the a younger generations. The problem is that that can't be the only focus on the differential between this service somewhere else I've been watching some discussions and and the simpsons podcast about how the idea of Hbo Amax in some ways. I think we said this even ourselves back on the current state of HBO Max. They're slightly diluting. What each has by having this other content while they will say we are not in the? We're not trying to do anything different than what. Hbo Hbo has always done. We're just trying to create more content at the scene quality level that you've always got. That's why they're warranty th- that's why. They claim that the prices prices warranted is. Because you're still going to be getting this quality content. The problem is that by having this other content that falls in in line with other genres and things like that that typically does not screen quality. You're going to have some problems. I mean there's a couple of different reality shows that have been announced all Docu series. HBO's already doing Hbo Reproduces Comedies and Dramas and a variety of other content some of the content content. That there's there's they're creating if it's not on par with what each is currently doing should be some major major problems with it just diluting the brand that is HBO. Theo which could ultimately hurt them in the larger scheme of things because HBO. Max Really doesn't take off then you could run into the problem of the Sir. You know it hurting the brand that is just just. HBO and subscribers while the brand doesn't the brand the singular brand of HBO isn't what it used to be because this other content is out there that's also associated with the name and I don't necessarily want that to happen because like I've said before I watch a lot of content on. HBO and I appreciate the content on HBO. It just comes down to. It is what they're doing beneficial. If you know we talked about the name and I said I'm not sure why they chose to go with. Hbo Except for the fact that name demands quality. That's what has always been but if it does if it strays from quality because the intent is just to create extra content that people are going to be interesting. I don't know that that's going to be beneficial. I said any other interviews an interview with Kevin Meyer. The executive who's kind of the front man for each Disney plus this. This was a completely different area of discussion because they've already launched but one of the things that came up in the the conversation was that specifically asked like but what happened on day one. Why was there issues? And there's been a lot of conspiracies that other companies Amazon web services which deals with Disney plus and or supports parts Disney position. Say like there was rumors that maybe Amazon was trying to mess with Disney. So let's not successful because they already have prime video and that can be further from the truth. Basically Disney in Kim to say listen the APP that we created the architecture behind it wasn't exactly great and we learned that the hard way by having a lot of issues. He's he said that they're already in the process of trying to work out in that they're planning on having a massive update for the service within the next two weeks and when that happens it should resolve a lot of the problems that people have been having. I applaud them for you. Know going to the lengths of trying to get that update out as soon as possible. Obviously absence Absence General are always going to have bugs and they always gotta get worked out. They attempted to have a lot of that stuff. Worked out by having the Beta launch. They had another lund's they probably just didn't have have the amount of traffic that they will. They probably had the amount of traffic the anticipated but didn't actually because the traffic was so much higher than what they predicted. Then there was there was issues so there was that the other only other thing to pull out of the interview review that I thought was interesting. was they specifically said that you know Disney is a company that doesn't really they don't have so Tobacco a little bit so net flicks. A lot of what they produce is based off of what people absorbed what they watch how much how often they watched the content that they watch. There's a reason why Adam Sandler has so many movies available on Netflix. itunes because people will watch that content on Netflix. That's why they keep producing juicing. This stuff it's why certain series cancelled before they feel like sometimes before you feel like they were ever given the chance because people just are not watching part of that has to do with the fact that maybe it wasn't market. Well part of it has to do with. Maybe it's just not something that audiences are connecting with. But they have a lot of data that they use is to judge what they actually should make. Hbo Max they've been talking about one of the things we're talking about over and over again in the investor meeting this that eighteen t owns a company called Zander. which is a data is a data company? They basically it's a personal data company that that minds their services his to get information to sell anonymously like it's not data personally for you and individual like facebook sometimes accused of but not content. That is our data that is specifically anonymous to give it to advertisers and say this type of people who are watching the show. This is the time they they have this company and they were talking about how. Hbo Max when it launches it will be working hand in hand with Zander to create data so that they can go find other content content to get other production companies to create you know to continue to create content that people are actually enjoying and appreciating Disney however doesn't have they don't have a data company and specifically when asked about how they're going to use their data from just the usage rates of Disney plus. They were asked. Just how are you going to. What are you going to do with that data as far as how you create content and they specifically said we have absolutely no we probably will not happy following the data as much as you would think we are Disney and because we were Disney we sometimes believe a program can be successful regardless of what the data assets on the did however say that they are going to be creating more adult content which goes hand in hand with the complaint that we had last week in our episode where we talked about how it just doesn't doesn't feel like there's a ton of content that's more adult oriented or just meant for adults not just family and children content so they did say that they're going to do that? I don't know what that means means because let's be honest. The entire service is a very family friendly service. The content that they create is still going to be in some way acceptable for children. Read or to due to you know to watch but just be able to also appeal more towards adults. I'm thinking on the lines of the simpsons or something like that where they create content content. That is more focused on the adult audience but can still be watched by children without being too Raunchy or to adult oriented. But it's interesting because basically said we've been were Disney. We've been doing this for as long as we have. Were creating shows basis of what we believe will be successful and the only thing that I have to the only comment I have in regards to that is Disney. Outside of their recent success with the marvel films the Star Wars films there live action remakes and some just slightly other things they have not had exactly the best track record when it it comes to creating content or acknowledging. What's really successful they have created? TV shows for the variety of Disney channel's or ABC has created shows shows that don't tend to take off very well. There's a lot of shows that don't make it past one or two seasons or they cancel it and there is a fan base. Yes but it's just not enough for them to keep doing it. But then there's other aspects. Were like if you look at their box office. They're movies that they've released through theater theatrical theatrical releases over the past ten years. They've had their fair share of flops. A lot of the ones that are super successful fall within one of those categories. I already mentioned flops. Tend to be stuff. That's outside of that. You look at a movie like wrinkle in time which released last year. Movie didn't do very well at all. They assumed it would and they went about making the movie and and marketed very well. They didn't do a bad job. Marketing or anything like that but it didn't end up doing very well in the box office and you have to kind of wonder obviously you. They have become a very very much. It driven company as far as what they create a lot of the focus on the content. That's coming to Disney plus is IP driven. She she had to wonder to yourself. Is this idea that Disney knows exactly what their customers want is this completely true or is is is there some fallacy in the idea of what they believe is quality content or content. That people actually enjoy. Yeah actually have a couple of thoughts on this whole tired Disney interview. I guess we'll start with the last I about this using data and his knees explanation of we know we kind of what's going on. This reminds me exports guy in about the last decade. There's been a big push to use like analytics in sports. The most I guess Popular Example of this is the movie moneyball has brandon pendant anyway. He uses statistics to help this guy stats to essentially help with his baseball team. In in for me. I'm kind of getting this right now. Between a sports and using should we use analytics to drive the team or should we not In basketball the biggest one that does this is Houston Rockets analytically. It says that you know you should take more a three point shots in. It's going to be better overall for game plan. Threes and layups shoes. Find if you can hit threes. You know. Sometimes it's hard to shoot a ball twenty-something view away a tiny hole in and it's fine if you look at it they've always had issues getting far into the NBA playoffs and stuff like that voice had breakdowns and stuff Weird issues the put what. I'm trying to say it's it's we're in the age and I work in this business of using using data to make decisions and software. It's called data driven development. You know using data to drive your business but it's one hard to collect data and then you'd hire people to actually do something with it and when you've been traditional company when I say traditional since it terms of Hollywood as a very untruth company They came on the scene and when they made the content they don't release until recently didn't release really their their stuff theaters. It was all devices. Now how do we get people to watch on devices. Not really like a focus on like winning awards and stuff like that but Disney is very much from the old era of movie and TV development in with that it's probably still got some hangover of older ideas of pain like we. We have this whole content team and we can survey and we could pick what the users are GonNa want but just fine but you know an admin advent having more data than we know what to do with. It's prominent the best thing to do right now. You know if you have affirmation you should use it however I think we should be so you know solely devoted to data but that's a different discussion Russian so hearing that Disney take like you know. Hey we're not going to do someday. It's like hey we're not going to be a data. It seems like it seems like hey. We're not going to be data driven company. We're still going to rely on our instincts in our Acumen to really usher and pushed Disney into the future. Well that's too bad. Yeah because the streaming people watch streaming streaming content is different from the traditional content. So like although some of those same rules do apply from the traditional old school way to the streaming way. There is a lot of similarities. There's also eh dissimilarities in the people in audience in Howell. What time of night do people watch this stuff you know? WHAT DO PEOPLE WANNA watch in? It's very important and hearing that Disney has has seemingly like it's not gonNa take that too serious is disheartening. Because you know when when when you're a new player like you need all the help that you can get and hearing Disney say like hey we're gonna not even collected. Oh not even gonNA make a team. We're not gonNA even entertain these ideas. That's a little scary because it's like hey like at the end of the day you might have to agree with their recommendation Asian. But it's better to have that data just in case it's better to have that opinion did not have opinion all and so hearing Disney's take on this little disconcerting because it's all right like it just seems you're trusting in yourself too much even though you're a newcomer myspace and there's other people who've done it for a very long time. been very successful by being data driven company. Did you have any thoughts up before I go on a different thing about Disney. I mean like I I agree. I mean the data a lot of times will point you in the direction. We need to go but I also feel like this stuff that super successful Disney is just going to point to more and more stuff more star wars stuff more live action remakes and that could be problematic to for just creating different and unique content. We've talked about this before. About how original content or original ideas is something. That doesn't really seem to be see that big of a focus especially currently dizziness of this. It's always been like that by a lot of what Disney produces is based off of other things of all their animated classics are based off of books or old fairy tales. The now we're currently seeing this wave of live action remakes of their of this exact films. We're seeing you know. Marvel revel in Star Wars stuffing's obviously starrewards films are was original thought but now everything is creating is diving from the earth going back to the original well of what. The stallworth franchise was prior to them. Owning moral derives a lot of their stuff from the comics so like I want to see original content. That's not to say you can't have something. That's you know. Based off of a book or comic book or anything like that or an existing media that existed prior to them obtaining it and you know before they purchased the Ip but it really does come down to like. They're not really creating a whole lot of original ideas and that's the that's the biggest problem like if that's how their content and their content with making king content like that then that's just they will be but if they don't create some sort of original content and I'm really hoping that maybe them being involved with the Fox side of things we'll see maybe aspects still happen. I'm worried of course because Twentieth Century Twenty First Century Fox was was merged into Disney among concern that companies companies like Fox searchlight's that produce a lot of original ideas really quality. Movies might not be releasing as much because Disney has a very very robust release. We schedule Theatrically also Yasser Twenty First Century Fox which can release other things. But it'll be interesting to see how much they actually are allowed to release. They just shifted up a lot of the release schedule for the past year show. There was a movie The kingsman a Prequel to the kingsman series was supposed post. Come on February. That just had a huge marketing. Push your comecon back in October. And they just shifted the movie release date from February all the way to September of next year so I wonder if that stuff is gonNA take a back seat to the other stuff that they already know. His super-popular super is going to gain them a lot more money which is great but then you hear on the other side of it and that specifically typically HBO. Max For Warner Brothers as a company has always been very creative driven. The people behind the camera the ones who are driving these projects and they tend to you give them a little bit more support with their ideas. It's one of the reasons why we have a directors like Clint Eastwood who keeps producing content for the same studio studio over and over again. There's other directors who they just keep putting movies out through the same company because they've they've got these relationships and you don't really see that at the Disney In the in the most obvious evidence of that is you look at a guy like J.J. Abrams who was basically the guy who ushered in and the new version of star wars ended up coming back to do another stores film but then took his entire production company elsewhere because he was looking for more creative freedom freedom. And that's not something you typically hear about when you're at Disney. That's all I have to say about your Jj. When he took strawberries he already had a contract with paramount? So I use our. Let's sure he's used a weird case to begin with which spreads the suit at the point so going back to the tech things about Disney. This whole rumor that Amazon was trying to Sink Disney is the stupidest thing ever and let me tell you why first off yes prime makes a lot of money but we don't know is how people get prime prime video. I I think that a lot of people have prime for shipping. And I think a lot of people with that prime membership watch prime video. I don't I don't know the numbers on how many people get prime just for prime video media. You know what I mean but that number is going to be less than what. AWS makes a year. Amazon web services is to be its own huge business very successful business that Frankly if we're spinoff business could off the baggage of Amazon proper. I would probably investor them just that the power like one third of the Internet are very huge and so it's actually in Amazon's Amazon's best interest for Disney to succeed wildly succeed. And here's why every this is going to this process of how we watch videos. I'M GONNA detail that in the future episodes but the more that people use Disney plus signs up for it in streams content the more that to spend the mob when to use them in Bain with stuff like with that like running a streaming services very expensive cloud cloud computing is expensive. It can get very expensive very quickly. Because you urging things per second of mainly Per Second of compute you time and storage by the gigabytes or the terabytes like this as a very quickly. If there's no downtime right and Disney plus service I means that Disney is not gonNa really be eh using Amazon services because of just random screw ups and Amazon's GonNa make money so Ramos on it doesn't matter that Disney or editor because it ended the date. They still went if if more people use Disney plus that means the more service that they're they're gonNA have to rent from Amazon Amazon's GonNa get a fatter check from Disney and so it doesn't make sense this whole idea of sabotage because frankly if they sabotage Disney. Plus it's going to really savage themselves and that's dumb no conspiracy theories just stupid conspiracy theory. Sometimes it doesn't make sense like it's an the Amazon best interest to help Disney in in this text base so it was nice to hear the Disney executive basically agree with my my sister on the service of of how world net they were not scared. Thank Disney personally. People like their their APP was not prepared for for the for the Volume Anaconda. Call that just by Minas is what I've seen the atmosphere some of the plugs and things that are hearing it gets hard to gauge. How unpopular the how many people are gonNA use it like you could testing locally on your machine works but testing okay? What happens when you get ten million people use? It seemed time. It's very hard to simulate. If you could simulate at all Komo News with the bucks because they realized okay like yeah. This stuff's hard especially if he not used to it. It's actually interesting when you hear that statement by the Disney executive like. Hey Ah we've messed up in our in our self development of making this thing the skill it's run me. I think it was in the stinky interview he talked about how Warner brothers are HBO. They've been doing this for years. That game of thrones like yuccas thrones especially in later seasons like you know every Sunday night can six. How many people have tuned in on two brothers to you? Watch the confirms episode. So they've gone actually good at simulating. Okay simultaneous connections concurrent downloads concurrent streams and stuff. Like that like. They've kind of at least the other foot into this idea scale and they have consultants stuff to actually a couple of them in the space like they're used to it. I don't know if we talked about this but we saw an article. Think either you are Sharikov article about how one brothers used to have Bam tech as their backing of the streaming service Which powers Disney right now and they just for their own service their own back and they learned the hard way of how to skill? HBO and how to scale. Game of thrones and all that stuff and so it's just it's just a parody between you know. Hbo Hbo Than Disney and their struggles in textual goes and stuff like that and just kind of makes me laugh. Because it's I call it like I mean I hate to be to you know chip on my shoulder but it's like yeah that totally only makes sense of everything and how Disney just plan correctly and it's hard and I don't think people should give Disney crap about because you don't understand how complicated something is going to be like it. It's it's Hor to plant in mass and scale you know it's easy for like one person. Okay like here's it's going to be uses the Public Library when you're scaling up to millions and millions of current connections it's hard to figure out consume. Yeah overall is pretty great that at the Disney executive just basically admitted like hey like we we underestimated we screwed up. That was pretty good on his part. Because I feel like the more honest you are gonna be with customers to understand like competing like hey like all right. Didn't he doesn't really know if they're doing here. This is the first take. Okay we can be we. Can we can show them grazing versus like you know. It's not our fault Babol. I think people respect humility. I think people respect when you apologize of feeling I think customers recognized that. I don't think that You know lose a lot of subscribers over these tech mishaps during its first week or month and then lose trevor. It's going to be over like content based issues not take issues because consumers are more giving. I think some people lead on. It's nice to see a company taking a acknowledging there there's issues because the the biggest thing is when a company doesn't knowledge that there's issues or that shows why it happened says what had happened. You tend to have people get upset just because they're not because they don't know so they don't understand or you have these situations where you they start pointing the blame at certain certain places. And of course the diehard Disney fans are going to be like well it can't be Disney's these fall because it's Disney. We Love Disney. It's gotta be somebody else so they'll look to figure out who they can point the finger at. That's such kind of advise though. That's a major kind advisor at are there. The limits people like. Well I believe this can't happen so it's not going to happen dumb. Yeah and but the reality of it is stuff like that happens all the time and it's it's happens happens in every aspect of anything that the news covers. Let's just put it that way but yeah I mean it's nice to see that they took. They acknowledged the fact that cashews. They're working on it. It's also nice to see that they're analogy that they they're going to have to do better. Because the demand is is way higher than they anticipated for. Something like this when you tout out. Hey we had ten million subscribers day one those are huge numbers but you know if they have a massive drop off by the time they have their next quarterly results. That's not going to be real great thing for them especially for their stock and things like that so they've got to you gotta keep those subscribers and if anything they've got to keep them and grow that number because it's not gonNa be good good thing for them. If by the time they they released quarterly earnings their lower. Or and it's just like well everybody sign up initially but then they realized that there wasn't as much content so I'm glad that they've acknowledged that there's issues with tech. Hopefully they'll acknowledge that there's issues with content very very near in the future is actually a museum because last week when we were talking about the issues with the content literally early the next day they went and posted. Hey there's another series coming on in December which was called pick of the litter and there was not a again not as not not a show that I'm GONNA be interested in watching but at least acknowledges the fact that they have more content than that exists that they haven't talked about because that's that's a show that wasn't even on the radar of shows that had already been announced that were coming so there is a potential that they have something else to replace. You know to take the slot that meant Laurean has not necessarily as marquee but something that is definitely going to you know so. It's not just there. There's another one less show. That's releasing have something else. They just haven't revealed exactly what it's going to be at this point. So that's nice to see as well with that being said that is gonNA wrap it up for this shorter episode discussing the To interview or Saas discussing basically Kevin Meyer from Disney plus in John Stinky from. 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Why and How Are Documents Redacted?

BrainStuff

07:16 min | 1 year ago

Why and How Are Documents Redacted?

"Today's episode is brought to you by Oregon. You know, when something goes wrong at home, and you just freak out, I have definitely had my moments especially when it comes to pests ants in the mirror. Nara, cockroaches hanging out around your bubble bath and uninvited rat, a your daughter's birthday party. Don't let pests ruin the moment, get an architect out to your house tomorrow. Bill, protect your time and your temper. Visit organ dot com slash brain to save fifty dollars on your first general pest service with the promo code pod. Fifty that's peo- d five zero Oregon home is where the bugs aren't. Welcome to brain stuff. A production of iheartradio. Hey, brain stuff. Lauren Vogel Bon here. Recently, the American public got its first look at special counsel, Robert Muller's to volume report on the investigation into Russian interference in the two thousand sixteen presidential election and some may have been startled to see how much of the four hundred and forty eight page document about seven point two five percents of the text. According to the news, website, FOX had been blacked out by us attorney general William bar, each blacked-out word or passage was labeled with a color coded notation indicating the legal justification for withholding that material these included potential harm to an ongoing legal matter. The need to conceal investigative techniques, personal privacy, and grand jury testimony which generally must be kept secret under rule six of the federal rules of procedure in less judge issues a waiver. The House Judiciary committee, still subpoenaed. The uncensored report and bars. Explanations didn't quell the widespread curiosity about what it was the bar decided that we shouldn't see we spoke with Michael revenue, sqi an attorney, who's an expert and the release of government documents through the freedom of information act. He said, there's something psychological about it. If you see a document with blocked out sections your eyes go to it, and you wonder what's under there. Welcome to the arcane secretive subculture of redaction, which is the practice of removing or concealing portions of documents before publication. It's a phenomenon that most ordinary Americans probably are unfamiliar with as evidenced by the four thousand percent spike in the number of searches for redact and redacted on the Miriam Webster, dictionary website, on the day that bar sent a letter to congress revealing that he would release a redacted version, a Muller's report. But attorneys journalists and historical researchers are custom to blackout spaces on documents as a consequence of dealing with sensitive, subjects redacting has long been part of government imposed secrecy. When former CIA employee Victor Marchetti and his co author, John, D Marx sought to publish a book on the CIA in the early nineteen seventies government censors who had a thirty to review the book under Marchetti employment contract. Redacted one hundred sixteen pages from the text the book was published with blank spaces showing the location of the redacted, passages decades later documents obtained using the freedom of information. Act are still sometimes riddled with blank squares over faces and photographs and black. Bars over words and sentences and sometimes entire pages. But it's not just the government in the legal world attorneys routinely. Redact portions of documents that are to be turned over during the discovery process in civil lawsuits. Those deletions occur in order to protect attorney client privilege attorney's work product for clients commercially sensitive information and information, not relevant to the litigation. Other reductions are required by the courts themselves to protect personal information such as social security numbers from misuse, one of the things about redaction is that, while there are rules about, what should be redacted. There aren't really a lot of hard and fast rules about how to block out that material for years attorneys, and government officials often simply used black markers to conceal sensitive portions of documents, which were then photocopied. So that someone couldn't hold the paper up to the light and read censored words in the mid two, thousands as more and more documents begin to be distributed in the laconic forum, both the government and private sector law firm, started shifting to redacting the digital files themselves using software tools. These days attorneys involved in big. Corporate lawsuits often use e discovery platforms, which allow them to manage massive amounts of documents in which contained tools for redacting portions, though, you can also safely redact information using programs like adobe acrobat pro assuming that you're working with PDF's. But regardless of what technology is used. It's necessary to go through documents individually and figure out what to mask, which is a time intensive process. In the case of the Miller report, Barna staff, apparently, scanned a printed copy of the report, redacted it, and then printed and scanned it again to create a new digital copy that excess of caution resulted in a low quality image that wasn't searchable since then the department of Justice has published a searchable version as well, but digital redaction isn't always foolproof once fisted, high tech method for reading redact words in the document involves analyzing their links, and comparing them to other words with the same length on the page and guardian reporter, John Swain found that he could view redacted text in a court document, and the Paul Manafort case by copying and pasting it into a Microsoft Word document. Matthew Ingram of the Columbia journalism review explained quote this likely happened because someone either drew over the unwanted text with black highlighter tool in Microsoft, Word, or used adobe acrobats reduction tools, but forgot to merge them with the original document. We also spoke with Mark Sade a Washington, DC based attorney who specializes in national security law and frequently deals with productions, he said, I don't trust technology. Even if there's a safety mechanism someone will invent something that overrides it thus Zayd generally shoes, electric reduction, his preferred method is to, quote, literally cut it out with scissors, and then photocopy the page it's a really sloppy looking reduction. But no one will ever see what I cut out in other instances, if he's instructed by the government to redact information from a document. 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But when Zayd gave the government copy of the man's obituary in an effort to get the full document released the told Zayd he assumed wrong and the document was about someone else. Today's episode presented by Patrick, j Hyder and produced by Tyler clang brain stuff is production of iheartradio's, how stuff works for more on this, and lots of other topics. Visit our home planet has stuff works dot com and for more podcasts from iheartradio. Visit the iheartradio app, apple podcasts or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Hey, it's Kim. Dasho. Beatle fans. Don't miss my podcast, Kim Dachau's Beatles. Revolution talking with other musicians. Like Lenny Kravitz, our little Steven about how the Fab Four changed music forever. Listen and subscribe at apple podcast or on the iheartradio app or wherever you listen to podcasts piece of loaf.

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January 16, 2021 | Ministry Highlight: Timothy Rabinek and Eastern European Relief

The Friends of Israel Today

24:58 min | 4 d ago

January 16, 2021 | Ministry Highlight: Timothy Rabinek and Eastern European Relief

"Welcome to the friends of israel today. I'm steve khan over with me. As her host and teacher chris could talk. We have a great show for you today. But before chris comes. I want to remind you to visit our website. Fox radio we now have over six years worth of programming on our site. Free to listen to. And i'd also like to invite you to browse around and enjoy the content. We offer on our main ministry page there. You'll find trustworthy and accurate news on israel in the middle east. And while you're there you can support our ministry by clicking on the donate button to help us continue teaching biblical truth about israel and the jewish people you can get there by going to foia radio dot org that's f. o. Eilly radio dot. Org st was just saying our mission. Here at the friends of israel is to teach biblical truth about israel and the jewish people and one of the ways that we do that. It's not just by by the radio program and not just by our online teaching but also through the hands and feet of our workers at our ministering all around the world to jewish people. And that's why today we're going to be highlighting one of our ministers that are serving over in eastern europe timothy rabbinic. He's out of warsaw poland. He's going to be talking about the ministry that he has to the eastern european jewish community. That is that is in desperate. Need right now and how. He's also educating young adults. Over there to see the of israel and the jewish people from a biblical perspective also joining him will be mike stoller. Who is director of international ministries. Here at the friends of israel gospel ministry. We have an exciting show lined up for you but also we want to thank our podcast listeners. Be sure to go to apple. Spotify google tune in stitcher. Listen online you can listen. It's on demand whenever you'd like and while you're there be sure to rate and comment on our program the friends of israel today. Thank you for listening Joining with me today are some dear friends. one friend who normally sits Not too far away from me. At the friends of israel headquarters east director of international ministries. Here at friends of israel. Gospel ministry dr mike stallard and then also timothy rabbinic who ministers to the jewish community in poland. And so we've got an international meeting if you will and so timothy's with us from poland. Mike smith us from here near the friends of israel headquarters and we're going to be highlighting the ministry that timothy has in poland and eastern europe. And we're going to be looking really at the amazing ministry that he has how god's blessing it and to show you because this is our ministry highlights episode. This is an episode where we like to look at the all the various ministries that the friends of israel has. It's such an amazing thing. We we like to say the sun never sets on the ministries of the friends of israel. So mike tim great to have you on the program. Thanks for having me that to be here timothy. I want to start with you The eastern european jewish people. We're going to dive right in here. The eastern european jewish people. They've suffered immensely in the twentieth century. And i know it's very stereotypical. And the american mind to think of jewish people as business savvy and financially well off but that's not always the case in eastern europe where you minister. Can you share a little bit about the jewish people in eastern europe. Chris well first of all. We need to realize that the history of jewish people that ashkenazi jews are known in israel is very long some sources even say the first settlements began in the first century of the current era in the territory north to the black sea. Today it would be ukraine but the real beginning of jewish presidents would start from a seven to ten th century depending on the territory. We are speaking. I the beginning of the twenty century. It is estimated that over six million jews lived in eastern europe while and you know the biggest community was actually in poland. Where i live now. So it's quite amazing to me referring to the stereotype chris. A juice are all the rich. Well if we look at the jewish history in eastern europe we will see a great diversity of There were you know shoes that were poor. There were jews that were rich. There were religious jews. People were secular jewish people that were jewish people that only spoke in these Some being polyglot s- though it was it tremendously verse population and it is true that some of them became quite successful especially in trade business but there was a lot of poor communities living very simple life and times facing severe persecution. The nation of the raising antisemitism was of course. The holocaust which destroyed almost the entire jewish community in eastern europe and where the nazi germany stopped. The communist soviet union continued. Serve this time. Nuts by gus chambers. But by oppression and forced rejection of the jewish identity. And of course today the jewish community is facing any hardships in eastern europe poverty and under semitism are the two big ones really and i also want you to mentioned really quickly too. So you know where we are today with. The jewish community is that they're dealing with poverty in eastern europe dealing with poverty. They're they're living. After the what the nazis did in the twenty or in the mid twentieth century into into the soviet union. What's the spiritual condition of the jewish people in eastern europe timothy. While again it's a verse you can't put it into unfolding but the two main things that you can observe is very religious people fruit a very orthodox community that is being developed. Now had the second one. The second group are the secular. Jews that experience communism and cut to reject older faith and traditions. Mike i wanna know you've been working alongside timothy timothy administering in poland for quite some time. Now he has a family. History of ministering with friends of israel growing up in poland and in eastern europe and mike. I know that you stepped in a position of leadership to see timothy growing and expanding ministry. I'm interested to know mike. How is the friends of israel reaching out to the this forgotten jewish community. Well it's to watch what we're doing in eastern europe while the most exciting things in the in the ministry of the friends of israel from my perspective and one of the striking things is the development of relationships with jewish that goes back decades. We're living now at our workers are living now on and working on ministering now in light of a strong Bridges that have been built with the jewish community for example or summer cancer. We bring children from belarus and ukraine to poland and ministered to the jewish children in the camps We have The relief fund that. We're talking about That where we do clothes and medicine and foods and it provides open doors for the gospel message about jesus the messiah and and in that context of that relationship we prove that There are christians who love jewish people. And jesus is not a bad name. So i think. I've watched that and it's just an exciting thing to see. We're reaching out through relationships that allow us to share the truth about jesus timothy my call this the eastern european relief in it's not only bringing a physical comfort. The jewish people in in the area of your world as mike was talking about food clothing medicine. But it's also bringing spiritual comfort as you serve as ambassador for the messiah jesus in eastern europe. Can you share with us. A story of how the ministry has had an impact in the area of eastern. Europe is sure. Chris well there are many wonderful stories. I could share with you. And it is a real privilege for me personally to seek god's glory at work for me personally. The most amazing stories. Are those where i understand that god is architect of what we do. the the story i want to share with you today actually happened. But that's a long ago For example recently when we traveled to belarus we met lady by the name of susanna. We did not plan to actually meet that lady that we did meet with her before She heard in the synagogue that there are people from poland visiting jewish homes. She was eager to meet with us and so she called the local pastor and insists that that we visit her home. We work with with local passer in in now so we were a little bit surprised of the whole situation but we went anyway. Later that day we learned at the meeting. We've heard that her granddaughter to honor of the summer comes. We organized in poland for jewish children. That mike was mentioning. It was a you know a surprise for us to learn that kurt granddaughter started that a local sunday school one of the churches once when she returned home and thanks to disconnection we learned that the whole family became believers amazing. So so this is really amazing. This is just one example of god's sovereignty and the fact that we are just his hands you know. I want to encourage our listeners to visit. Foia radio dot org because there were going to connect you with a way that you can partner with timothy in poland to really help bring the the relief the physical relief and the spiritual relief the spiritual comfort that that only jesus can bring to the to the european jewish community the eastern european community to help really bring to meet the physical needs by supplying food and medication and assisting those big medical bills at a lot of them have to pay. 'cause remember some of them are holocaust. Survivors are a little older. They need help. They need funds and so timothy and his team go and they helped. They provide food clothing medicine out of the goodness of the hearts of people who give to the eastern european relief. And he's able to enter into these lives that that need a help and through that is able to share of the glorious salvation the glorious forgiveness and redemption that can only be found in. Jesus the messiah. So i want to encourage you to go to radio dot. Org and when we come back. Here's the thing timothy's doing such an amazing job in poland. Not only he ministering to those people who are in meat. He's also teaching and educating the next generation of eastern europeans about the importance of israel and the jewish people. So when we come back. You're going to hear about the living bridges program something. You're not gonna wanna miss so stick around chris. We've been listening to timothy talk about the history of the eastern european jewish community and how devastating the holocaust and how the soviet union were devastating to them during the twentieth century. It's really hard to imagine how this once thriving jewish community was left in shambles but the friends of israel. We've had a long history with helping the beleaguered jewish community in eastern europe. And steve. when you're talking about the eastern european jewish community. I can't help but think of our beloved speak alisher for our listeners. We we hear all the time. We are apples of gold. At the back end of our program people loves vs stories testimonies and we have a book. Actually that's written about vs testimony about his history. You know. He grew up in warsaw poland. He was a young jewish boy who was really impacted by the holocaust by hitler's final solution. And so as as timothy rabbinic was talking about the history of the european jewish community i help. But think of zeke alisher. I want to encourage our listeners to get v. the miraculous story of triumph over the holocaust by our previous executive director. Dr ellwood mcquaid. Dr mcquaid does a fantastic job of of telling you the story of how v left the holocaust. He escaped the holocaust and made his way over to israel to find actually the freedom and the lord. Jesus christ as he was over there v became one of our very first ministers for the friends of israel in the land of israel. It's an amazing story of vs triumph over the holocaust. Yeah you can purchase a copy of speed the miraculous story of triumph over the holocaust by visiting f. o. Radio dot org that's f. o. Radio dot org there. You'll find a link on our homepage and it will direct you to the book or you can call our listener line. And that's eight three four three six nine four zero again. That's eight eight eight three four three six nine four zero and someone will return your call during our regular business hours to order in canada. Call eight six six four two five eight four again in canada. That's eight six six four two five eight four. Welcome back everybody. In the last segment we were talking. A about providing physical and spiritual comfort to the jewish people in eastern europe through our eastern european relief fund. Which i hope that you go to foia radio dot org to find out more information about and we introduced you to timothy rabbinic. Who's in warsaw. Poland which prior to hitler and his final solution walsall was the largest. I believe timothy largest jewish city with the largest jewish population in it is that right Certainly one of the biggest yup definitely a very influential city with a with a with a influential jewish community prior to hitler's final solution. The holocaust and timothy. You were mentioning about how those who are suffering are they could be holocaust survivors. There are victims of antisemitism which is the hatred of jewish people and yet that same antisemitism that existed in the twentieth century still remains today in europe. And it's actually on the rise and timothy. This is what i love about. Your ministry is that you're working to combat that anti semitism in eastern europe by raising awareness about israel and the jewish people to young adults through your living bridges ministry timothy. Can you share about the living bridges ministry that you have the sure chrissa pleasure in the ministry. We call the living bridges. A really really want to focus on the next generation of youth as you said and as the name suggests we want to build a symbolic living bridge between the christians of eastern europe and jewish people. How do we do it. This is a big question. First step is in my opinion. Is education both historical and biblical. Those things are very important. We can't forget what has happened here. In eastern europe the holocaust is part of our history and in an age where memory of this brutal crime is being forgotten or even denied. We must each the truth Over the years. We have organized seminars. For you from poland ukraine the czech republic russia and of course israel who together we visit They concentration camps the death camps the history and held discussion. Panels were many stereotypes. Were broken for me The most valuable part of this program. It's always the informal interaction of Of the members of the program the friendships that develop between believers and non-believers where weakened cher why will have the jewish people if we talk about education. Of course the most important education is the biblical education and so we tried to do it by reaching churches and individual christians itching the literal history historical and grammatical interpretation of the bible. And you know chris. We don't need to make a special exercised teach about israel who make people realize the importance of israel. All we need to do is really teach the bible as at this rhythm. That's of course. Of course you know during covid nineteen era. We can't organize big events and conferences. Whatever we use the technology that we have a each month now we organize online meetings for believers where which is the bible. Thanks to the connections we have developed with israel every time we have a speaker from israel. Who's a believer. The conferences are free. We don't need to pay a speaker for israel to come to poland so in a way it has become a tradition. Now and i believe we will continue those online meetings after You've got allows of course the covid nineteen crisis is over so timothy. Say what you do. Is you organize groups but living bridges to show you the the young adults in eastern europe. A what happened. You're you're right there near the death camps the concentration camps you you do tours there but then at the same time you bring these the these adults over to israel as well to show them. The land of israel is that right. that's correct kris. Yeah well i'm interested to know what's the response you know you and i were writing back and forth a little bit and you say that a person that travels to israel is a changed person. Sometimes i would have people on my trips at did not like israel so much but wanted to see the places anyway because of the biblical importance you right in so many ways. They returned to poland becoming true fanatics for israel and sharing and churches. How wonderful this country is timothy. What changes the mind of that young adult when they step foot in israel. Well yeah. it's it's a little bit funny situations dodge that people that are very static of israel after the trip. They become so loving of israel's than i even sometimes so it's it's amazing the at really haven't analyzed that so much shit but i think it's usually the whole package. You know the the whole experience of being in the land though loved by god. It's the personal friendships with israelis and their nature to always tell if the food of course the diverse countryside from snow on mount hermon to that in the desert. I will tell you a secret. People from eastern europe feel a little bit like kobe in israel and say that i say that because so much culture from eastern europe has been imported by the jewish settlers who israel that you can always find something that you know if you know ration you can speak it israel in russian you can find russian food. You can find russian restaurants no problem so amazing all packets. That's great mike you know you. We've traveled to israel. You and i like timothy and i'll be honest. I firmly believe that once a christian steps foot in the land they become what's called a christian zionist by us. That's a christian zionist christian. That believes that god has given the jewish people the right to exist in their ancient homeland. And i believe the reason that they become christians. I is because they are literally seeing and touching the faithfulness of god and you can see god's faith at work right in front of god's reality right in front of them when they step foot in the land. You know i'm interested to know from you. How important is it for young adults whether they're in poland or the united states or anywhere from around the world to walk in israel to experience israel firsthand. Oh well i think that's a great question. I would start with It helps with bible interpretation young people as they look at their bible it turns from black and white to color for one and they're actually living And in the place where the gospels took matthew mark luke and john and so it all begins to make a little more sense so it helps them in interpretation but also think that it helps them to get excited and and also understand. It's realistic about the prophecies being fulfilled. You're in israel is predicted. It was gonna come back one day. And you're standing at the mount of olives and you're looking down on the old city of jerusalem and you can visualize how the prophecies will be fulfilled. And i think that creates some excitement. And i do think when young people come back or even older folks lot like me for the first after the first time there's a measure of spiritual growth that can happen Because they have had this experience. But i think another critical part of that is it helps change any false narrative. They've had about israel once you go. At least it helps begin that process you know. There's the narrative that israel is the bully and israel mistreats. The arabs excetera. That and i think they over there and they find out that's not really the case and their mind begins to change and they have an openness crack in their hearts so to speak to love israel and to love the jewish people. So i think that's an important thing you know. It's interesting that you say that. Because i'm thinking of timothy in eastern europe where there is a rise of antisemitism especially on college campuses going over and experiencing the land seeing both the biblical perspective and the reality in israel to actual political reality and experiencing that so their minds change their minds. Change in. timothy's doing a great work of changing people's minds about israel and the jewish people from a biblical perspective. Timothy is doing the living bridges program and also ministering to people in eastern europe through our eastern european relief analysis to our listeners. Go to fm radio dot org there. You're find out. More information about the eastern european relief fund where we actually provide physical and spiritual comfort to the jewish people that are in need in eastern europe and through that able to minister to them to share the good news of jesus the messiah yoshua hamas sheikh. And then also you'll be able to find out more about the living bridges ministry that timothy has so Again that's epo eye radio dot. Org mike timothy thank you so much for joining us on the program today. Thank you thank you chris. It was a pleasure at bless. You thank you for joining us today. It was great to have both mike and timothy with us. Chris what can we expect. Next week steve were starting a four week series on various different ethnic backgrounds of the jewish people. The jewish people are not this monolithic group from america canada. All the way over to the middle east and in europe as we've been talking about jews from europe today as well they all have a ethnic background that's very fastening defines type of culture that they come from so we're going to be spending the next four weeks looking at the different jewish backgrounds. How that define to. They are and how that encourages them to worship. God or maybe even be secular. We're gonna find out how all of those play as a factor in that as we look at the four different backgrounds of the jewish people. There's gonna be a great series. Join us next week. Our host and teacher is chris kataoka. Today's program was produced by tom. Gaglione our theme music was composed and performed by jeremy. Strong and i'm steve. Conover over executive producer. Our mailing address is f. o. Aradio p. o. Box nine one four belmar new jersey zero eight zero nine nine again. That's f. o. Radio pillbox nine one four belmar new jersey zero eight zero nine nine and one last quick reminder to visit us at fyi radio dot org.

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December 26, 2020 | The First Christmas, Part Two: Isaiah 53

The Friends of Israel Today

24:58 min | 3 weeks ago

December 26, 2020 | The First Christmas, Part Two: Isaiah 53

"Welcome to the friends of israel today. I'm secon over with me. Is our host. Teacher chris kataoka. We have an exciting show for you once again this week but before chris calms i want to remind you to visit our website. Fox radio dot org again. That's f. o. Radio dot org. We have over five years worth of programming on our for you to listen to and i invite you to browse around and enjoy the content. We offer there. And on our main ministry webpage you'll find trustworthy inaccurate news on israel in the middle east. And while you're there you can support our ministry by clicking on the donate button dow continued teaching biblical truth about israel and the jewish people. Once again that's f. i. Radio dot org steve. We can't help but look at the christmas account that we've been going through and now what we wanna do. Is you know when jesus was born. He came but it wasn't just. We're not just celebrating the major senior actually looking today at the entire mission of jesus. You know the major seemed leads to the mission of what jesus came to do. So we're actually gonna go to is as chapter fifty three as we end our year which is awesome to think about. We're going to end our year looking at isaiah chapter fifty three the mission of jesus now before we continue. I want to say thank you to all of the listeners. Both on radio and podcasts that have been following us throughout twenty twenty and it has been an interesting year to say the least but if we wrap up this year i want to encourage you to go to foia. Radio dot org. Because on there you'll be able to find a link to see a video from our executive director. Dr jim sharpe talking about the work. That the friends of israel does and ways that you can partner with us this year end. The friends of israel is a global ministry. That's reaching out to the jewish communities all around the world and educating the church about the importance of israel and the jewish people from a biblical perspective. If you believe that matters. And i want to encourage once again to go to f radio dot. Org there you can. Listen to dr jim showers and you can be a part of partnering with the friends of israel to continue the message that jesus promised us through the scriptures to minister and to support israel and the jewish people again. That's f. o. Radio dot org in the news us. President elect joe biden says. He'll reenter the iran nuclear deal. If iran returns to full compliance. iran's foreign minister mohammad. Zarif responded to by saying the deal will never be renegotiated. Period reef said. Iran won't agree to any curbs on its missile program or backing of regional proxies unless western countries stop their quote unquote maligned behavior in the middle east. But here's my take. Iran doesn't like western countries behavior in the middle east. You kinda almost have to laugh at that statement you mean. They don't like that. Israel made peace with the uae with bahrain with the sudan and other countries potentially on the brink of striking peace with the only jewish state in the middle east. That's what they don't like is at the milan. Behavior that serena's talking about here's a little word for president elect. If if he neglects the middle east advancements that were made by the trump administration to cut a deal with iran. Now i'm going to tell you it would only isolate the us from a majority of the middle east. Steve hersi had a challenge for his jewish friends. One that seems simple enough but ultimately had an unexpected he would say read these words from the bible ending his jewish friends piece of paper with these words written on it. He poured out his soul to death and was numbered with the transgressors yet. He bore the sin of many and makes intercession for the transgressors for those. Who accepted. steve's challenge their initial glance at the few words that he had given to them. They said the steve. Please put away your new testament. They didn't wanna hear about jesus but what they were about to learn was that these words hit closer to home. Steve responded not the new testament. You're reading those words. Come from the prophet isaiah from our tanakh. The old testament. What steve's friends didn't know was that isaiah fifty three is the clearest picture of jesus life death and resurrection in the old testament steve having grown up jewish and reading the tanakh the old testament can affirm the most people have never read these words before this particular scripture it unites the old testament with the new testament for both christians and jewish people and for thousands of years. Isaiah fifty three has been a powerful tool for sharing the gospel to all people dating back to the early church in the book of acts. Sharing is as good news with those who don't know this promise of the messiah is actually one of the most important things that we can do as christians this christmas season. It's moments like the one that steve had with his friends along with really the countless acts of service are friends of israel. workers do all year long. That help us build bridges and bring hope to those who need it. The most and this is why. I want to focus on isaiah fifty three for our time here as we wrap up this year to celebrate the birth of our savior for christmas as and as we enter into twenty twenty. One to celebrate. Christ's birth means that you celebrate his whole life. We're remembering when god became man the incarnation but he became man for a reason he became an for a purpose. He came to redeem his creation. Even matthew tells us that when the angel came to joseph to let them know that the baby in mary is the messiah from god that his purpose is one that would save his people from their sins. Jesus the king of kings and lord of lords didn't come into this world with pomp and circumstance of typical earthly king. Earthly kings thing about earthly kings. Have an entourage of advisers around them all time giving advice and providing security. Keep the royalty safe from harm. A king travels in style. He's treated with respect and honor and dignity. And then there's jesus listen to how isaiah fifty three describes jesus comes from isaiah fifty three verse two. He sprouted up like a twig before. God like a root out of parched soil. He had no stately. Form or majesty that might catch our attention no special appearance that we should follow him. Okay so what we see here. I and isaiah chapter fifty. Three verse two is that he sprouted up like a twig before. God like a root out of parched soil. That's what the tech says. This verse is thick. It is thick with messianic. Kingly hope you're probably saying what does a twig have to do with with a messiah or king. What is it a route or parts soil have to do with jesus becoming the king of israel. Well that word for a route that is used their isaiah. Fifty three actually goes back to a previous chapter that isaiah rights and isaiah chapter eleven verse one which says this a shoot will grow out of jesse's route abud will sprout from his roots. The lord spirit will rest on him a spirit that gives extraordinary wisdom spirit that provides the ability to execute plant a spirit that produces salute loyalty to the lord. This is a very messianic psalm. In isaiah chapter eleven but but notice. Who is jesse. Jesse is actually the of king david and king. David was considered one of israel's greatest kings but after king david there were only a handful of kings. Barely you're a righteous like he was but god promised in isaiah chapter eleven that he would go back to the root of jesse that means he's going to prune back david line and a new sprout would arise. This would be jesus. God promised david that he he would have a son. In second samuel seven a son who would sit on his throne forever. That person is jesus the messiah. The king of israel is ahah fifty three right from the very beginning. Lets us know that this person. That's coming up. The suffering servant and isaiah fifty three is rooted in king david's family. He's kingly he's messianic. Listen to what this says though about jesus and isaiah chapter fifty three verse two. It goes on 'cause awkwardly. Even though he's king it says that he had no stately form. Or majesty that might catch our attention no special appearance that would that make us wanna follow him. Here's what's interesting each one of those statements. He has no stately form. He has no majesty no appearance. Those were actually words. That were used to describe. King david but in a positive sense that word for form that he had no stately form that word form that same word is used to describe king david when it was said that he was young and he was a handsome. He had fine form. That's actually where that word comes from. The same word is used here and isaiah fifty three to actually flip it around and say jesus had no form. That would grab your attention. You look right over him. Isaiah fifty three to says there was no majesty though same words could be used to talk about a kings majestic robes. That were worn. Jesus didn't come into the world with pomp and circumstance of kings nobles. No majesty to there again you see that connection that even though the king has come we're not going to expect him to come in a kingly way again the word used that this suffering servant of isaiah fifty three had no special appearance that we should follow him. That same word of appearances used of king david. When he taunted goliath in goliath. Got mad at him. Do you remember that. And he saw that. He was just a boy handsome in appearance again. That word used to describe. King david but upside down to show that nothing about jesus would draw attention to him by royal standards or even basic appearance. When jesus entered into the world there was no human adoration of the king who was born to a mother. Nobody knew and a town. Nobody visited a major meant for animals. When god became man. Get no stately former majesty. That might catch your attention to special appearance that we should even want to follow him. In fact isaiah goes on to say that jesus would be despised and rejected. And that doesn't sound like a great start for a king from the very beginning of jesus's life. He was rejected arid rejected. Jesus try to have him killed his own people in nazereth random off the teachers of the law and religious leaders of israel despised jesus judas one of his very own turned on jesus and eventually the whole nation rejected jesus when they demanded barabbas to be freed over jesus who was completely innocent. Many people followed in love jesus but he was ultimately rejected by his own. That's the reason. The gospel of john opens in john. Chapter one verse. Eleven that he came to what was his own but his own people did not receive him isaiah. Fifty three shows us that israel's king won't appear to them in the way that they would expect most kings to appear he would be despised. Rejected looked over forgettable. God's servant was destined to suffer. And this is why isaiah fifty three is called the suffering servant passages now before we continue with isaiah fifty three as we're here in this christmas season and we're moving into the new year. Maybe you want to study a little bit more about the birth of jesus and understand the backgrounds that were going on during the birth of jesus. And that's why i want to introduce you to a book called. They called her. Miriam the virgin of nazareth our very first executive director. Dr victor book spas and dr bookstores in a jewish man. Himself who became a believer in the lord. Jesus took the understanding of what was happening in the jewish world in the first century at that time and draws a perfect picture of what that world looked like. What was the world that mary entered into. What was the world that jesus was born into. How did god you mary. And joseph during this time as jesus was a young boy what. All of the different prayers and songs that mary sung. This isn't to elevate mary into a status of godlike character. This is to give a character. Picture of who marry is so that we can better understand. Who jesus. God chose mary an amazing woman. A woman that god favored in order to bring the messiah. The true light of the world to this earth and so books positives account of mariam. The mother of jesus is in the book that you'll want to get your hands on steve. Can you let our listeners know how they can get. They called her mariam virgin of nazareth to purchase. Your copy of they called her. Miriam by dr victor book spas and visit us at fema radio dot org. That's f. o. Radio dot org there. You'll find the link on our homepage that will direct you to the book and you can call our listener. Line that eight three four three six nine four zero in someone will return your call during regular business hours again to purchase the book. Call eight eight three four three six nine four zero in canada call eight six six four two five eight four beginning canada. That's eight eight six six four two five eight four back. You know this. Christmas season as we remember the birth of christ we also remember his mission his divine mission right from the beginning. The angel's announcement of jesus's birth proclaimed that jesus came to save his people from their sins. The name of jesus in hebrew yeshua shoe literally means salvation and deliverance. The king of israel would deliver his people just not the way they expected him to and is eight. Fifty three explains that perfectly. Listen to isaiah. Fifty three describes the deliverance the suffering servant would bring this comes from isaiah chapter fifty three verse five. It says this. But he was pierced for our transgressions. He was crushed for our iniquities and upon him was the chastisement that brought us peace and with his wounds. We are healed. It's no surprise that jewish people in the days of jesus were expecting a king. Who was like david to arise would cleanse israel of its own idolatry that it would rid the land of roman oppression and would ultimately bring shalom and peace but isaiah paints a different picture of king that through suffering. The king would bring spiritual peace and healing. The suffering king would be pierced for our transgressions of visible image of jesus nailed to the cross for us bearing our punishment that he was crushed for our iniquities in order to bring us healing. I believe isaiah fifty three five best sums up the mission of christ's first coming. He came with great humility into the world and through his obedience to the father. Even to the point of death he was pierced for our rebellion against god. Our sin was placed upon him. He received the blame and guilt and punishment of our wrongdoing that we might be healed and reconciled to the father isaiah fifty three prophesied of the suffering kings mission isaiah fifty three in the birth of jesus reveals to us that from the very beginning jesus had emission not even rome the largest empire in the world could stop jesus from fulfilling his calling but you know as we wind down two thousand twenty the crazier that twenty twenty has been as we turn a page on this year. I want to ask if you found your mission as a believer in. Jesus christ you know i have four kids. Olive cohen preston and levi. Each one of our kids have names that we've given to them that have an anticipated mission in mind from me and my wife. We named our daughter olive because our prayers that she would communicate. The peace christ brings to people's lives like an olive branch to anyone. She encounters we named our twin sons cohen and preston. Cohen is the hebrew word for priest and our prayers. At one day cohen would be a man who would love connecting people with the god who loves them. Preston is a village. A safe place for people to come in here. The good news and we pray that preston will one day be a safe place for people to learn about the love of christ and then our last child is levi. Levi was the priestly tribe who served in multiple ways to make it possible for israelites to worship god and you know our prayer is at levi will one day serve the lord in any capacity to invite people into the worship of our lord. What my kids are young. And i don't know how will turn out i. I don't know if their names will match their mission. But here's the thing. God does have a mission for them and god has a mission for you. We've all been called to serve him in some way in some form and in some capacity jesus's mission didn't end at his resurrection. He actually passed the bishen onto us. That would take the message of forgiveness and reconciliation peace and hope that he made possible into a lost and broken world. I pray this year that you find your divine mission to make christ known christ new his mission right from the very beginning. Do you know yours chris. I'm reminded of the proverb. That says a good name is more desirable than riches. It's really a matter of priority is an it is and that whole idea is reputation you know and it's not a personal reputation. It's your name wants to be connected to a reputation that people remember positively and i think that when we put that within the biblical grid a biblical understanding of reputation. What we really wanna do is elevate. The name of the lord through our mission and the reputation that we have that are testimony would be pleasing him now. Apples of gold a dramatic reading from the life and ministry of holocaust survivor speak alison in the days. Preceding christmas many in israel last believers. How can gutter birthday recently answered a group of such people. If you'll have anymore questions asking. I'll answer but the answer may surprise you. They fired off many questions. Why are you so happy at this time of year. Why do you make such a big celebration on christmas. Who is jesus. Why did he come. I responded i will answer. You would let me first story. One son a cold winter day a man daughter to small bird outside his window and the bird wanted to command and warm itself but the window was closed. The man opened the window to let it come in but the bird become frightened and flew away. Medfield sorry and wished he could become a bird so a good invited inside the jewish people like this poor bird. I told them put god notes them and did not want them to fly off on the road and be lost forever so in his great mercy he sent his son as a man his son spoke with us in our language telling us what god was like and how much he loved us then he suffered and died in our place so we could be reconciled to god because of this we can be happy in the lord and praises name. They listened intently. But when i finished one of them said with was a nice story but it's only for christians as nothing written and are jewish bible about jesus i replied now. I will show you that surprised. I will show you from the jewish scriptures song sung abra language by christians at this time of year to welcome our savior. I read zachariah and nine. Nine rejoice greatly o daughter of zion shadow daughter of jerusalem. Your king is coming to you his josten. Having subrogation i continued cheese. Came to earth because you'll manage some deep into sin and wanted to change hodson provide lasting atonement. Jesus came to cleanse from sim forever. When replied this is only a christian starting funding christian books. It's not jews countered. You can read about the messiah in your own. Jewish bible passages such as michael five to isaiah seven fourteen isaiah nine six nine seven and isaiah fifty three. We're clearly trae. Who is if you'll have time. I will be glad to read and discussed the with you. I was delighted. They were willing to read the scripture with me. When we were finished. I ask no. Do you understand why. I am so happy. And do think the stories of the rabbis drew and more relevant to the messiah than what we have read from the scriptures. No one said the bible is the only book. I asked if that is so. What are you waiting for. Why not believe in your always have read. Then you can share in this joy. They all were glad. I had explained the significance of christmas. There are many people in this world and each should have the opportunity to hear the good news of the incarnation and death and resurrection. Of jesus christ all yield their lives to him will receive salvation for goodness anti turner life. A thank you for joining us for today's program and for joining us for the year of the friends of israel. Today radio programming. Chris where we headed next week. Yeah i everyone here. I'm looking at everyone at the friends of israel today and i know we all wanna wish you all have very happy new year. We are so thankful for our listeners. And we just wanna wish you a happy and healthy new year and we praise the lord blesses Two thousand twenty one for you as you enter into it. And that's why actually we're going to be looking going back and we're going to be looking at two episodes that we did in the past. We hand pick them because we love them so much because as speaking of old going into leaving twenty twenty going into twenty twenty one we want to look at the study of how we relate to god both how it happened in the old testament going backwards the old testament and then an episode into the new testament as we enter into twenty twenty one hour host teacher. Is chris gets ohka. Today's program was produced by tom. Gaglione our music was composed and performed by jeremy. Strong mike kellogg grid apples of gold. And i'm khan over executive producer our mailing addresses. Fm radio p. o. Box nine one four belmar new jersey zero eight zero nine nine again. That's i radio pillbox. Nine one four belmar new jersey zero eight zero nine and one last quick reminder to visit us at fox. Radio dot org. The friends of israel today is production of the friends of israel gospel ministry. 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Ezra Klein on polarization

The Current

24:10 min | 1 year ago

Ezra Klein on polarization

"This is a CBC podcast high. That Galloway this is as a podcast. From the February. Third Edition of the current American momentum is now around winning the winning winning that outsider candidate. Donald trump promised us not the anarchy. Democrats Aka Demon. Rats I want to impose on us the tactics of these demon rats and trump. Aiding Leftist are backfiring. Americans pins are now buying into N.. Choosing results over politically correct. Losing behavior of other presidents. Well that was Fox News host Janine Pirro in the lead up to the twenty eighteen midterm elections. It's that kind of vitriol that's become common in. US politics in his new book. Why we're polarized polarized as reclined? Looks at the roots and the consequences of that approach to politics. News Junkies would know. Ezra Klein co-founder of the news and Opinion Website Fox as recline line. Good Morning. Glad to be here demon rats the rats you hear that. What is it? Tell you about the state of America Erica. So that doesn't tell me as much as one might think which is to say that you can go back into the earliest moments of American political history and find that kind of nonsense coming from nonsensical people like that. It's always been there right. Heavy political rhetoric attacking demonizing the other side. What is different now? Is the sheer number of layered identities and conflicts and that split the two parties so there's always been political enmity. There's always even in this country been political violence. What there has not always been is such a vast array of disagreements layered on top of each other? It's very hard for people to imagine being on the other side and when I hear Janine Pirro making arguments like that. She's you know she is what she's a provocateur. But there are a lot of other people people who are not but what they see when they look at the other side is something more like what she's framing and the problem for American politics is unlike a lot of other political systems including many ways a Canadian in system with this level of enmity our political system ceases to function because it demands high levels of bipartisan compromise. To move forward and compromise is not something that most with the players in American politics and certainly not on their public inside. Want right in some ways like an obvious question but when you look at it how bad is it right now. How bad is the state of polarization? We might. We'd have an opinion from outside or people who are in. It might say this is the worst that it's ever been truly. How bad is it so we to civil war in this country so it has been worse? the thing I would say here is it. Polarization itself is not a situation where the worse it gets. The more it is bad posessions many ways a neutral to little polarization. It can also be bad in the mid century. American political system political scientists felt that the big problem in American politics was too little party polarization. It can be a problem because if the parties not running on clear agendas agendas are. They're not honoring those agendas when they get elected. Then the American people do not have the ability to have votes the count there may be voting for a conservative Democrat in the south with an Liberal Democrat in the north and then Democratic Party itself doesn't actually hugh to either agenda so polarization is what it is. It can be very bad it can be good. I'm having disagreements agreements that are clear and cruelly constructed sometimes allows us to have them oftentimes. He'll turnage polarization which is true. For Much of the Mid Twentieth Century in American politics is not peace but it is suppression Russian suppression of things like racial equality and some of the other issues would divide the country maybe need to defy the country for a resolution. The prominent system is that the way polarization interacts interacts with a presidential system with divided dimensions of democratic political power. And I mean here. Small Democratic political power popular majority political power power. That has made it. So that when you get this polarization it's very bad for the political system. You can imagine a political system that works even thrives among deep disagreements between the parties but that is not what we have and so you have some Brock Obama who had a very different political style obviously donald trump and very different ideas but he was very polarizing himself despite all his efforts to not be he was the most polarizing president in the record of polling until Donald Trump. Give me an example because people might say what how. How would he be as polarizing as as as I mean? You're supposed to literally. Ah I in polling. Republican approval and disapproval of him was the highest gap from Democratic approval and disapproval of any president in history since we had polling pulling which to be fair is only for six or seven years at that point but nevertheless like we've had a lot poorest moments in that period and by the way before Obama. The record was set by bill by George W Bush and George W Bush by Bill Clinton and then after Obama by Donald Trump. So the point. I'm making here is it. Polar polarization is a trend. In American politics it absorbs different unconscious politicians with different approaches even the ones who tried to be non polarizing. And so what you're seeing. There is something happening to the system. Something happening to the structure of American politics and and party dimensions. Not something that is a direct result of just what a president says or even what they try to do. The rhetoric of polarization exist on on on each side. You heard from Fox News News there but On on the other side on the left you still hear that rhetoric of polarization. Yes I would say that. There is not an analog to Fox News on the Democratic side not to say they're not players is and media publications. That would like to Fox News of the democratic side but the democratic side is much more woven into mainstream media institution. So pupil came out that asked Democrats and Republicans which publications and media outlets. They trusted and they gave them thirty. Different outlets ranging from left to right Democrats trusted either. I'm trying to remember this. Twenty or twenty the two of them and they trusted outlets ranging from left to center right like The Wall Street Journal. Republicans trusted only seven of the thirty outlets and primarily. Those were highly conserved outlets outlets like rush limbaugh Fox News even more telling the outlet Republicans trusted most. It had double the trust of any other outlet in the country was Fox News with something like sixty percent and and I was also the outlet that they relied on the most sixty five percent I think it was Republicans had watched Fox News in the previous week among Democrats the single most trusted and relied on analogy is CNN which say what you will about CNN. It is an outlet that prides itself on having both sides it fired a bunch of Republicans for not being sufficiently pro-trump and brought on more pro-trump pro-trump Republicans so Democrats are dealing with a media are media outlets that often discipline their polarization pull it back a little bit even as others do want to push it. Forward whereas Republicans Publican's caught much more in a polarizing informational universe. So these things are not symmetrical but it is certainly the case that if you listen to Democrats talk about Donald Trump I would say from my perspective for somebody who is in my own ways polarized with With some good reason It is simply not the case at both sides are completely equal but you can find some very alarmist rhetoric on the democratic side. The difference is that that rhetoric to the very top of Republican Party politics and media and dominates it in way the Democratic Party. Both in its politics. In media's more mix we're seeing in this play out now with the talk round impeachment if you take a look at the impeachment story how could that exacerbate polarization in America. I would say that impeachment is showing the way polarization as broken American politics so the American political system is built to have branches of government competing and checking and overseeing seeing each other impeachment itself is meant to have a congressional an institution of Congress in the House and the Senate that acts as an institution to check out of Control Executive -secutive and you saw we're not built to have political parties exactly so in the nineteen seventies when Richard. Nixon ends up resigning. He resigned because Republican members of the Senate. They'd go to him and say he will not survive the vote. He does not actually get impeached He resigned because his own party will not support him. I think there's no doubt that if Richard Nixon's impeachment happened. In this the era of American politics he would have survived in. Fact was a very telling moment on Fox. News were whole Geraldo Rivera. said to Sean Hannity. The you're the difference between Donald Trump and and Richard Nixon and that was maybe a moment that was a little more telling than they had intended it to be. So impeachment is very polarizing but the problem is that it doesn't really need to be there is in of deep existential reason why Donald Trump having abused power with the potential remedy for that being that Mike Pence who is in every way more down the line Republican again and more like at least by the establishment. Republican Party would then become president. It's not like if you impeach. Donald trump a democrat becomes president. There's not a real reason that has to be polarizing but right now everything in American. Politics is polarizing cuts on party lines and as such not only is impeach him polarizing but as a mechanism for controlling executive. It is broken by polarization. You you have said that this polarization in many ways is driven in the United States by race. Tell me more about that. What you mean by that so I would say that it was more distinct at our deportation was driven by race and not a great way so in the aftermath of the civil war American politics looks they to get his two parties Republican and Democratic parties? But what it really has. Its four parties. It is immigrant party more or less as we think bit today. It has the Dixie Crap Wing Democrat Party which are the southern other Democrats who have almost total control over the south remember. The Republican Party was a party that invaded and occupied the American south at that point in living memory so the south hated Republicans Republicans. They hated them. Democrats occupied at certain points ninety five percent of all political positions in the south. But the number of party was like an authoritarian one party rule in the south and then nationally it acted in coalition with the National Democratic Party where the basic agreement was. The dixiecrats will help the Democrats hold power as long as the Democrats help. dixiecrats protect racial segregation in the south. And so you had A wide range of opinion In a number and then Similarly in the Republic Party Liberal Republicans Northeast North East and conservative Republicans elsewhere. And so. What happens is that rupture begins around the Civil Rights Act? The Civil Rights Act is a very divisive issue in American in politics but it is not a party. Polarizing won a higher proportion of Republicans voted Civil Rights Act in Congress than Democrats do even though it is pushed in past ultimately by Democratic president. Didn't Lyndon Johnson but that begins realignment of the parties the southern dixiecrats become Republicans. Barry Goldwater runs against some rights. Win Some states of the old confederacy for the very first first time and the Democratic Party becomes Liberal Party and after that then you get a lot of other console reservations you do get more racial polarization in the sense that Democratic Party is now about half a non white. The Republican Party's overwhelmingly white also beginning to get a lot more religious polarization. The Democratic Party single artists religious group is the unaffiliated whereas Republican. Party's overwhelmingly Christian. You get more idiological polarization as I mentioned geographic polarization with a widening divide between cities and rural areas psychological polarization cultural polarization. It's sort of the whole thing begins to sort sort itself and so it isn't that raises the only thing happening now. Although it is one of the most combustible forms of polarization in American life when it connects to politics but it is that race race was the thing that had deformed American politics for a very long time and once it began to sort itself by party that created the conditions for the very high levels of polarization not just on race but really on everything that we see now and is that reflected in how and who the various parties encompassing also reflect if you take a look of the Democratic Democrat Party brings in who had listened to And who compared to how an who. The Republican Party would listen to absolutely as I mentioned a minute ago. The coalition's Polish are just very different. The Democratic Party is half non white and being white. It's a coalition of law different racial groups that has obviously liberal whites. But it has African Americans Hispanics Asians Asians mixed race people. The Democratic Party about ninety percent white The the Republic Party's about ninety percent White Democrat Party. It is a coalition of a lot of different religious groups. I mentioned that it's largest group is the religiously unaffiliated but it has liberal White Christians. It has a more traditional African American Christians it has Muslims Buddhists Atheists agnostics Jews KC. I'm so these ways of constructing parties are very different in the sense. The Democratic Party has to be much more coalition. It's much less one type of person demographically than the Republican can party is. That's true ideologically to seventy five percent of Republicans identify as conservative. Only fifty percent of Democrats. Do so when you're a Democrat trying to win power you've to appeal to many different kinds of people in the Republicans don't that's then amplified by the way geography works in the American political system. I mentioned earlier. Republicans very dominating the rural areas. That's quite dominant in cities. But American politics amplifies power of rural areas. It does it through the Electoral College through the Senate small-state bias and also through geography and Gerrymandering in the house. So Republicans are able to win elections despite not winning a majority of the vote most of the time. Donald Trump being a very good example of this that I've got a party can't do that. It actually tends to have to win. More than fifty one percent of the vote to hold power at the Presidential Senate or House levels and throughout the Supreme Court said Democratic Party just has to follow very different incentives in the Republican Party. Does you often hear politicians and you'll hear from both sides of the aisle talk about the idea of a big tent. We want a big tent. We want a diversity of of opinions to exist in our a big tent. Does the base of either party the Republicans or the Democrats do they want a big tent. As far as I can tell the Democratic Party does tend to act in a way to have a big tent on. We'll see if that continues the forces we might just be in a world where the Democrat Party's lagging behind the poll the Republican Party in response to polarization but if you even look at how Brock Obama Obama Randy two thousand and eight and two thousand twelve he was a big tent kind of candidate And Donald Trump very much was not he. Donald trump was very much about breaking the party into two halves and hoping his half would win the resulting fight now the fact that neither that even though both candidates had such different strategies they actually ended up with not that dissimilar political coalition speaks speaks to the power of polarization whether parties want a big tent does not mean they can have one but nevertheless there there are different approaches again. I think it's done because among other other things. Democrats realized they can't win without bigger tent right now in the Democratic Party. The electability debate for two thousand twenty is all about. How can you win over these somewhat older more working in class more conservative whites in Michigan Wisconsin and Pennsylvania? You do not hear a similar story happening Republican Party as they think about how to win over Hispanic or African the American voters in California. And just that. That need to cater to America's political geography as it exists just demands very different things to the Democratic Party than the Republican. We can party and that shows up in their strategies. How much does voters identity play into how she or? He would invest themselves in the political party. That they support so the more What we call stack identities you have versus cross-cutting entities so these are identities link into politics if you're a southerner who's a union gang member and a Democrat you're evangelical and so on that's cross-cutting identities you've identity some that would pull you a little bit towards Democrats on the little bit towards Republicans and you make the choice you make? The more people have stacked imagine that your a liberal atheist Gateway Californian who lives in Los Angeles like you are GonNa in a fine just empirically the Republican party much more threatening to you and by the way that might be because repelling party literally is more threatening to you so the more at entities you have it stack up with the generalized unrealized nature of the political party. You're part of the more hostility and fear and dislike. You're likely to have of the of the other the out party of the out group. Of course these are the average is they do not speak to every single individual but in general. That's what we see. We actually see that. Identity is a much better predictor of how you feel about the other group then policy is so Democrats whose policy alcee preferences should make them. Republicans they're more hostile to the Republican Party than Democrats whose identities put them more or less in the Republican camp so identity tend to drive politics much more than policy does what is the whole foods cracker barrel political divide so just relates to the fact that America's political geography maps APPs onto a lot of other preferences in American life so after the two thousand eighteen election the electoral amulets. Dave Wasserman noted that House Democrats our presented. I believe it's seventy eight percent of a whole all foods and House Republicans now represented A similar number of cracker barrel. I think Democrats only have about twenty five percent of cracker barrels and that's not because whole foods and cracker hacker barrel want to only serve one party or another. It's because our politics maps onto other things like our psychology and our geographic preferences and whole foods is for people who I'd like to try new things and you know those people tend to live in big cities maybe have the disposable income to go and spend a lot more money on food. Maybe that's actually not. That might be true for whole foods and cracker barrel. I don't know it actually is not the case. The Democratic Party and the party have huge income friends to them. A lot of very wealthy people are publicans. A lot of very wealthy people are Democrats. Donald Trump in general did I believe his electoral coalition had a higher than median income. So it isn't the case as a stereotype. Sometimes have it that richer. People are all liberals or the Richard People are all conservatives income does not cut politics as sharply as a lot of people who liked to boil politics down to class would prefer that it did. It speaks to something that you said said earlier though. which is that? It's hard to imagine being on the other side. I think. The disagreements here pretty deep human beings are very sensitively tuned to groups We we have been that way going way way back into our existence way before politics as we think of it now so the more of our groups collect into one mega group the more. We're going to feel some alker austerity and fear of the other group. The argument I try to make again and again in the book is it polarization though and the way we respond to it is quite rational as a response to increasing levels of the difference between the two parties so as the other party becomes more different than you in its policy. And in its demographics. Of course you're gonNA feel more hostile towards it I make the point in the book that in Nineteen in seventy six. Republican Party's National Convention Platform Talks about abortion. Anything it says about abortion is in our party. Some who believe abortion should be legal in all cases and other who believe it should be illegal in all cases and we respect that difference in opinion that is very different than what the Republican Party looks like now and somewhat and tease another issue. If you look at Bill Clinton's nineteen ninety-six platform on immigration. It sounds like Donald Trump does today so the parties are much more sorted on issues today and as such if if people find the other party more concerning that isn't crazy it isn't them being unable to empathic. Imagine themselves in somebody else's shoes it is a rational response to the other party. Ready being more different. What a social media done to that? Divide nothing good. Social Media's not the beginning of this divide these trends ends well predate social media and in fact in other countries E C in some cases declining polarization in countries with the very highest levels broadband penetration so the effects. Social Media's complicated in American politics I don't think there's any doubt that social media is a polarization accelerate and in particular polarization accelerate because political elites are very woven in two highly politicized forms of social media and they respond to the politics. They see there. It's a continuing refrain the Democratic primary this year that twitter is not real life. And that's because so. Many members of the Democratic Party are on twitter and in particular candidates and their staffers and the media on twitter seemingly very highly polarizing fights and seeming to think that reflects the actual electorate when the electric primarily is not on twitter. Does Not Care is not paying nearly as close attention and so of a political campaign that runs a twitter strategy is missing in how most people actually feel about politics but the more that political these are on twitter and facebook and so on and responding to that very very super polarized ecosystem uh-huh system. They see their they end up in many cases creating political system they Believe it is in existence and that create that means that the rest of us have to do make more polarized decisions because they're the ones structuring are choices. What are you most worried about? When it comes to the level of polarization that exists right now? I'm worried that American government will not be able to translate popular vote majorities into governing power into effect of policy and then that the American public will not be able to make decisions about whether or not like how author being governed so that we can have a system that has clear lines of governing authority and governing accountability. I don't think polarization itself is a huge problem for a system or at least it doesn't have to be but but I do think being unable to govern and solve problems and unable to have a clear way for the public to judge whether or not the party's agenda or the other that is the kind of thing that breaks in American political political system or wakes up political system already broken people talk about an I mean again. It's not new now but people will talk about how little Collaboration in cooperation Shared Vision there actually is. Is that already happening now. That that that breaking the system yes. That's not encouraging Ching. No it's not I I I always wanted to tell people that I don't think people like me are in the hope. I'm trying to accurately describe the way the American political system works and I don't think that if you accurately describe it it should leave you feeling particularly optimistic. I think having a good understanding of how it works is the first step to fixing it but I also don't think it means Z.. You're going to be able to fix it The one more hopeful thing I'll say is the American political system has often been terrible. I think we have a nostalgic view past but you wouldn't prefer to be in this system of forty years ago. Oh or eight years ago or one hundred twenty years ago and that should at least give us some confidence about where we are now. We might be at a bad moment in our trend. But we're not at a particularly bad level or much more of a democracy democracy than we were sixty years ago for instance so look. Politics is often bad. It's often frustrating. It's going to continue to be so But yes American politics at the moment it is either broken or it is breaking and we should take seriously and try to understand why that is people will see this as an American story. But how have America's adversaries capitalized on the polarization. You've been talking about when you look at the way. Russia attempted interfere on the two thousand sixteen election. They try to interfere by exacerbating these points of polarization and aggravation. If you look at say. Their social media campaign knows very much about increasing racial polarization. They had these fake black lives matter groups and then fake aac sort of white nationalist groups and what they were doing with a I think a very adroit understanding of how American politics worked was what they're trying to do was increase levels of polarization. Just Americans Americans fighting with each other more what Russia cares about above all else is discord and the decline of faith That Americans are having Inter democracy and making American Moxie look bad around the world so the more they can piss at each other and show that we have no way of resolving our problems in a in a decent way the more they're achieving their goals else. You know out of the business of of of hope selling hope. What is the answer in terms of trying to turn the polarization down? I'm a believer in democratization. But I want to be very clear that I don't think there's an the answer in terms of turning polarization down. I think there's an answer. In terms of reforming the American political system to work amidst polarization and set of ideas. I have around that have to do with making it clear air for popular majorities to be able to win powers getting rid of things like the electoral college and Gerrymandering and then making sure that power can actually express itself in terms of policy so getting rid of things like the filibuster reform campaign finance Et CETERA. But I think that people often want to solve polarization by by reversing polarization and to my knowledge there is no scalable elbow solution for reliably doing that. So we're yeah. We're not getting away from his anytime soon. There's no magic answer is reclined. It's great to speak with you. Thank you thank you as reclines new book is called Y. Were polarized would love to hear from you on this politics. As polarized as Ezra Klein suggests what about here in Canada you can tweet us at the current. CBC send us an email the current at CBC dot ca or go to the website CBC dot ca slash the current and for more C._B._C.. PODCASTS GO TO C._B._C. Dot C._A. 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CBS Sunday Morning April 28, 2019

CBS Sunday Morning with Jane Pauley

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CBS Sunday Morning April 28, 2019

"Today's Sunday morning podcast is sponsored by tracks tracks. We know there's a place for would in your backyard. We recommend the firepit. But when it comes down to choosing the right material for your next deck. Look no further than the superior beauty and durability of the number one name and outdoor living treks delivers the look of wood without all of the work in the worry. And it's made from ninety five percent recycled materials, which makes it the right choice for your backyard. One hundred percent of the time picture. Your next deck is built with tracks. Visit trucks dot com to order samples. Good morning. I'm Jane Pauley. And this is Sunday morning. If a stranger came up to you and said, tell me a secret you might very well decline. But what if that someone offered you the chance to reveal your deepest darkest secrets? And honestly, that's exactly the offer. One man is making to the world at large as Lee Cowan will report in our cover story time when we share everything I'm social media. Frank Warren is asked people to share what they wouldn't tell anyone. I would take a postcard and handed to somebody say, hi, my name's Frank. And I collect secrets people look at too little weird. It's still feels kind of weird to say to the honest with you complete strangers have mailed him their secrets he's got more than a million so far and what he does with those secrets base apprising later on Sunday morning. Our Sunday profile is of actress Joan Collins, a veteran of stage and screen who has loads of personal stories to tell our Morocco. Of the nineteen eighty s TV show dynasty will never forget. When Joan Collins made her entrance as Alexis Carrington. I was very young when I married this to Carrington her ex-husband's worst nightmare and the woman everyone loved to hate this. I'm like mom night to light meal. Lose me bitch. Ahead on Sunday. At home in Hollywood with Dame Joan Collins. He was mad as hell back, man. And he has plenty of imitators. Now, our senior contributor Ted Koppel this morning on the career and legacy of imaginary newsman Howard Beale. Moon forty years ago, fictional television, anchorman, put forward the proposition that the key to big ratings his high. This anymore. Seem seem is no big hit on Broadway. When you're mad enough. Then were figuring out what to do. Well, it's worked for many people. Angers? Ahead on Sunday morning from there. We're off to the lake a lake our Bill Geist remembers. Well. It's been forty years in the making book all about my favorite vacation -ly lake user written by one of our foremost. Authorities on the subject me you'll hear about it ahead on Sunday morning. Faith Sailly shows us the works of free to Kalo on display Rita braver has the intriguing story of famed author Harper Lee's attempt to write a true crime book. John Blackstone tells us all about Broadway. Newcomer Taylor MAC and more coming up when are Sunday morning podcast continues. Right. You're most closely guarded secrets on a postcard. Then pop it in the mailbox. It's an offer. A surprising number of people can't resist. Tell me a secret is our cover story reported by Lee Cowan. We'll every week. I still feel like a kid Christmas morning with all these kind of gifts to go through and for me time just disappears. Frank Moore is one of the few people who gets more actual mail than Email the old fashioned kind. Homemade postcard. About one hundred show up at his home every week and ridden on each one is a stranger's secret a confession of sorts sent the Frank anonymously. When people I love leave voicemails on my phone. I always save them in case they die tomorrow. And I have no other way of hearing their voice ever again. You called me an idiot. So I sent your bags to the wrong destination hoops, I guess you were right? I read every postcard I keep every secret. I think it's a precious and singular archive. That's how you look at it as an archive an archive of our hidden selves, and our guy that now numbers well over a million secrets and county my older neighbor led the weeds grow knee high in his yard. It looked terrible. Then he died and at dawn on me that he just needed help. I'm sorry. It all started back in two thousand four when Frank was working on a suicide prevention hotline hearing, plenty of stranger secrets, he soon realized something. Ball. Sometimes I think that maybe one of the reasons I started the whole project is because I felt like I needed a place to share my secrets and stories. And so thinking, I was creating for others. Maybe maybe I needed at the most myself. These are the postcards. I started the project with with the simple instructions, I would take a postcard and handed to somebody. I'd say hi, my name's Frank. And I collect secrets people look at your little weird. It's still feels kind of weird to say it, honest with you. But the idea grew and grew and grew there are no limits to the artwork that you could put on a postcard, and I've seen all kinds. I've seen people include a photograph that collage drawing. Sometimes people send me objects. Not even postcards subjects I've received secrets on coconuts purse, the license plate frame of flip flop. You name it if it's in my mailbox somebody's probably mailed it with a confession on it to me. Every for the last fourteen years. He scans a few and shares these stranger secrets on his blog posts secret dot com. I think I've learned that everybody has at least one secret that could break your heart secrets like this one. I tell people I'm new in town to explain why I have no friends. I've lived here my entire life or this one. I'm getting weight loss surgery next month. And what scares me the most about it isn't a dangers or complications? But that I will finally find out whether people dislike me because I was fat. Or if they just hated my personality, then some ways, I think when we keep a secret that secrets actually keeping us in what way. In what way maybe haunting us, maybe inviting us to reconcile with part of our past hiding from maybe keeping us from having intimate relationships with others or ourself. I have eleven secrets that. I've never talked to anyone it is both my biggest fear and my greatest desire to find someone. I trust enough to share all of them with. Post secret has become a phenomenon having had more than eight hundred million views today, not only that. But it spawned six books and several exhibitions this one currently at the museum of men in San Diego where you'll find it. As quiet as a church. There is a sense of I think respect and reverence for the courage at took for everyday people to really open up and share something with stranger. They've never done before. Among them are humor's ones. Like this. I worked at the apple store in judge you by which color ipod you pick. But many of them are pretty tough to re I pray every night that I won't wake up in the morning. This one read I don't think God is listening. Here's another dad. I know you keep your gun loaded and unlocked, the reaction is usually just like this is incredible. Believe what I've read this is really special. It is a little overwhelming to hand me and camping. Erica Kottayam is the director of exhibit museum in his never seen. Response to show quite like this. You oftens read one that hits close to home. But is really something that feels like it could be your secret visitors are encouraged to leave their own and each week, the museums mailbox of secrets, he's overflowing. Some of those one day be posted on Frank's plug to there's always at least one every week that hits you either right here in the gut or right here in the funny bone Natalie store was first introduced to the project by your therapist. She started putting posted notes next to the secrets that resonate with her. But one in particular, she says changed her life. I tell people that I don't believe in God. When really I just refused to worship God with my grandfather hurt me like he did. I was sexually molested when I was four by maternal grandfather, she had been therapy for years. But not until she saw the pain of others mailed the Frank from all over the world. Did she realize it was okay to not be okay? I can't tell you what it's like, I can't tell you what it's like to be sexually assaulted. You wouldn't understand? I can tell you. But you never really get it. But there's somebody out there who does that means that I'm not a freak. It means. I'm not broken. I'm not a failure. I'm not from Christian straighter tell you. I don't even know you. Frank. No takes us secrets on the road. College campuses like here at North Carolina State. But someone who has been getting four years to live. We're both nineteen. This one came from campus. He talks about the power of releasing a secret. And then he has students to try it. Gay which something what stood out semi erica's in Henderson, even more. Sometimes just by saying the secret out loud, you make it go away. Frank doesn't know how long he'll continue to be the secret of secrets, although kid mitt stopping may not be his choice the secrets keep showing up at his door. And he keeps reading inspired humbled. Sometimes said, but always comforted in the knowledge that we're not as a loan in our thoughts, as we might think I think secrets are inexhaustible like poetry or songs, and just when you think you've seen the funniest one or the most romantic one, the most hopeful one the most crushing one you'll get one that's still takes your breath away. Won't. Goto gurus Gaudio? Because that's the only place you're gonna find any real truth. Peter finch's portrayal of a Mata's hell anchorman, and the movie network violated all the nineteen seventies norms of how television anchor should behave as Ted Koppel is about to show us times of short change. This is the CBS evening news with Walter Cronkite. Named patricia. If you're of a certain generation these names and faces will vote memories of gentler time in network news. Cronkite chancellor bring Clinton Reasoner our, ladies and gentlemen. There was Howard be lying. His network UBS where figments of penny skis imagination tchaykovsky the screen writer for the nineteen seventy six movie network in which an anchorman with lousy ratings is fired art imitating life. And then Bill the trade here by Peter Finch makes this on air announcement since this show was the only thing I had going for me in my life. I have decided to kill myself. Would she said I'm gonna blow my brains out right on this program a week from today? Ten seconds to commercial tune in the control room staff is of Libya's viewers are not public reaction provides a reprieve a Howard Beale. He's not fired. Indeed, he's encouraged to go on being spontaneous unpredictable, cue heart. And he does is all I know is that I got to get backed you've got to say, I'm a human being God damnit. Life has menu the fictional anchorman. Howard Beale has stumbled onto a reality that will enemy too. Into the prison. Success lies in the incitement of anger. Stick your head out and yell. Hi, hal. I'm not gonna take this anymore. Three Howard today is Friday September the nineteenth. And I'm Howard Beale today. Frisch version of network has now playing to packed houses on Broadway, all of you to get up out of your church right now. Go to the window it stick out. Bryan, Cranston is Broadway's modern incarnation of Howard. What makes it so relevant is Howard Beale rails against his audiences addiction to the tube to television to this evening draws the men even as he draws them in. These days if people want to express their anger, they don't have to open the window shout. I'm mad as hell. I'm not gonna take it anymore. What do they do? They'll put it in a tweet. That's wrong. That'll get you. And they reach a lot more people. And, but there is also a a sense of privacy that they think I'm just going to put it in a tweet. I don't have to tell the person directly. I'm gonna let this device send the message what I find. So fascinating about the about the play the same theme from the movie to this ability to mobilize anger. Well, it's worked for many people. You know, President Trump is. Is a brilliant mastermind in that regard. He knows how to get in stimulate one way or the other either pro or con, but he knows how to manipulate and stimulate and work that and massage the energy of what that is. Put me indeed have begun as satire in hundred seventy six gradually infected an entire industry. Anymore? Howard beale. The man prophet of the airwaves spawned a generation of inadvertent imitators under attack everybody's under attack. Donald Trump is bringing America back in front of our eyes. And it's time for the un-american haters to get on board nonsense. He's right. This time. We people just really Epping hate him. You we the American people. We were lied to over and over and over again, you constantly appease Republicans in corporate Democrats every day. Let me show me what pleasant of article about progresses, whatever their login on cable television or social media, however, closely or loosely, traffic and truce. That anger. My daughters who this is the first presidency that they're really witnessing firsthand. This is horrendous actually worked fumes of Asians than from three generations of communicators, whom we assembled on the Broadway stage of network elder statesman. Dick, wold one time. President of NBC news new I should point out the model for mex- shoemaker happy, the president of this news division. Yes. I was on the record continues to be the number one cable news show in its time slot. Twenty-five years, Greta van and has been a fixture on cable television, the only occupation specifically protecting the constitution is the press. And you would think that be some stroke, higher moral obligation realize, you gotta make money to keep these networks going to not go so far on the limb to go so far out to generate those ratings that everybody wants which brings us to Carlos Muslim who appears on the news and opinion website, FOX, this might be the most important chart for understanding American politics. Kern lose you quickly conclude did not take anchoring instruction watching old tapes. Cronkite. I don't want to rely on the crutch I look like a news person. I want to convince you that I'm making a research driven argument, even the Republican obsession with tax cuts is a relatively new phenomenon. Reagan is worshipped as Taqtaq now, but he actually raised taxes eleven times during his presidency. The million more in taxes than the bus driver report less. Ronald Reagan into the resistance to answer a question. What is the nation or rule of journalists? It's not just to tell people. What is important? It's to make those stories attractive and desirable. An interesting in a way that compels them to watch. All these cable networks watched the ratings minute by minute by minute. And they know that if people are screaming at each other or some guests says something outrageous or some acre call somebody Aligarh, it will spike the ratings little bit and the viewers say we want more on human trafficking, and we don't want that kind of thing. But they're watching it news as prophets center. Business model of television networks came together around nineteen eighty begin including nightlong dick wold was then senior executive at ABC news. How did that influence what appeared on the air? I'm not sure that the people inside the system knew how it would affect things other than to be more budget minded, I think the people outside the news division looked at it. And made it a driving question. Carlos. You had been quoted to me as saying that the muckrakers and capitalism are them are incompatible. Exactly. My most extreme controversial go ahead. You Marxist pig? Explain what you're talking effort. Humans want things that are bad for us. We want sugar in our food. We want alcohol and drugs we want sex on TV that poses a challenge. Because if you create a marketplace in which people have access to everything that they want the stuff that's bad for you. We'll win. And if you look at the ratings cable, news networks that is certainly empirically true. The the more you lean into fear endings -iety. And Jiting full threats creating an idea of their outsiders. Come in to get us in the more people will tune in. We are hardwired to follow our fear grid is twitching different. Do I actually think that the viewers are smart? I think we present information to them aggressively scrutinize those in power, and I don't think that I think there are a lot smarter than I think you do cure convulsing over convulsing. Just a point. We're not addressing all of these news operations have become a smaller and smaller part of a bigger and bigger entity the heads of which have no connection to the they don't want bad news produced, but they are not involved in. And it is not their essence to be involved. That's what this show is all about. Yes. That's what that's what Howard Beale is screaming gone away from humanity corporation remote controls strike us around. Put an end to this madness strike of blow for sanity Santoni right in the middle of this. Maybe in one thousand nine hundred seventy six. More like a documentary and set yourself free, dammit and cut to the ad break. Greek. Now matter of mystery, featuring Harper Lee, the author born ninety three years ago today, we know her for her published novels to kill a Mockingbird and go set a watchman, but could she have been working on another book Rita braver has done some digging. More than four decades. The mysteries remain Slough did in the fog that rose in over lake Morton and the woods that surround Alexander city, Alabama. They original mystery is a series of suspicious and unexplained deaths. White are Casey sept- says that the other mystery is equally. What happened when Alabama's most famous author Pulitzer prize winning Harper Lee of tequila Mockingbird fame came here to work on a true crime book about those deaths. She does a tremendous amount of reporting and research, the mystery is did she write a book or not? And if she did wear is it so let us begin with the tail that broadly. Here it centers on Reverend Willie Maxwell an ordained Baptist minister who also worked in the local logging industry. Credibly capable of quoting scripture and struck people as overly polite, then one night, a long country wound nineteen seventy his first wife. Mary low is found dead in her nineteen sixty eight Ford Fairlane, she was found both to have been bludgeoned and strangled. You know, it was staged as a car accident. But there was never any thought that she had died from the car accident. The Reverend was charged in her death. But as sept- details in her new book furious. Ours is nineteen seventy-one trial in the local courthouse ended in acquittal. What happened was the state star witness changed her testimony, the Reverend would later marry that witness, but before long she to ended up dead on the side of a road as did his brother and a nephew despite intense investigation. Authorities could never conclusively link those deaths to the Reverend but locals like Robert burns had their own ideas. He believed in killing man people said he was a psychopath, and he was and people really thought he was a practitioner of do this. Yes. Doing not. It turns out that Reverend Maxwell had insurance policies on every single relative who died, totaling at least half a million in today's dollars. And when the insurance companies grew suspicious, he called the same lawyer who got him off on charges of killing his first wife a lot of people around here need at if you were looking for someone to indefens-, you wail he went to say, Tom Radan Ellen price. And Madeleine Kirby Rodney's daughter and granddaughter say he was. Just doing his job. There was no proof up until the in that it was a murder that there was anything around. But then in June of nineteen seventy seven another death, surely and Ellington the adopted teenage daughter of the Reverend third wife was found again along the side of a road. It was made to look if she was changing a tire and that the car had fallen on her. But in fact, she had been strangled before she was put under the car, the whole community mourned, including Robert burns who says, Shirley and was like a niece to him. I loved her. And she loved me as three hundred people gathered for her funeral. The Reverend was immediately suspected of the murder by the police and by burns if he came today few I had intentions of doing what I did. And you did what Shannon. And you killed him. Yeah. And when Robert burns needed a lawyer who should step up to defend him. But Tom Welden me, the reverend's longtime attorney the story became a national sensation and attracted a distinguished visitor who pointedly slipped into town Harper Lee who had not published a book for seventeen years, it's an auspicious moment in her life. And she's had a lot of years of failure that she's trying to turn around, but Lee has his her childhood friend Truman Capote in researching his true crime novel. Thank you in cold blood. As depicted in the film Capote tournament. I'm going to find out where that girl lives. Can't do that alone Lee decides she's going to try her hand at crime writing showing up at the two-day twelve where attorney Tom ready actually gets Robert burns off on a temporary insanity defense. Lease starts interviewing scores of locals. Rodney becomes one of her top sources and sodas burns. She told me she rented a place in annex city to stay in. She gathered all if a Mason that she needed to write this Mook Harper Lee spends years working on the book, but she never publishes anything much to her despair as Casey Sep learned when she uncovered this letter his thanking him for his loving offer of council, it's Whitten to Gregory Peck, who became leased dear friend, when he played Atticus Finch in the film of to kill a mocking bird. His she then tells them that her agent wants pure? And autopsies my publisher wants another bestseller. And I want a clear conscience in that. I haven't defrauded the reader, but Sepp found Lee was also haunted by her own demons, and that is everything from depression to abuse of alcohol, and those kinds of frustrations seem to manifest themselves. More and more Harper Lee died in twenty sixteen my van attorney Tom Rodney had passed away too. But as his family started going through his files, a story Ling discovery when appears to be the first chapter of Li's book, it is numbered at the top four pages stapled together, titled there, Reverend it starts with a lawyer Lee called Jonathan Larkin getting a phone call in the middle of the night. This is Reverend Maxwell and the police are here at my house accusing me of killing my wife. Will you come down and help me? Whether the wrist of the book exists is still unknown as Harper Lee's papers remain under seal mysteries on mysteries. God bless Harper. Lee. They didn't end when she died, and like the story of the Reverend himself who ironically is buried next to two of his suspected victims those mysteries still haunt the shores of the Martin Alabama. Make room at the table. Steve Hartman tells us companies coming. Mccue lovers. Brad's barbecue Oxford Alabama is heaven on earth, but eight year old Eleanor Baker says her visit here earlier this month was especially divine. I think it was a God thing. I thank God sent me there. You think we needed the example? Yes. People care about other people and how important it is Eleanor is a widow she lives with their dog Rufus, and although she has a big family. They mostly live out of town. So Eleanor was alone the night, she went to Brad's barbecue security footage shows her entering there in the purple and at about that same time these three young men arrived. They say they were just having a good old time talking when Jim are you Howard noticed? Eleanor older woman in myself tomorrow says he hates seeing people eat alone. And I sing when most of us see someone eating alone. We feel that way. But our sympathy. Never solves anything. And Jim Mario really wanted to fix this. So we got up from his table in sat at hers. He just came up. And he said I saw you sitting over here alone. And he said, do you mind having some company she said go right ahead? And I introduced myself, she introduced herself is kind of how it all started the all ended up having dinner together. And it was just a really nice pleasant evening with those twentysomethings did that night speaks volumes about their character. They say it wasn't entirely altruistic. They enjoyed her company as much as she enjoyed there's because when we lifted it's always talked about we made that kind of connects with somebody is hard. Let it go. Like, I already feel like we're guarantees room for these guys in your life. Glad calcat Nike of all out to make room for one another. And certainly if eleanor's right? The God played any role in this. It may be. Be to remind us of the joy that awaits just outside the bulks. We live in used to say when I was younger, and I still said today, I'm going to change the world somehow, and I don't know how I'm not read. I'm not famous and I'm not very smart. So it can't be president. But we can tell the world that is all right to be kind. And then before long, maybe the world be a much better place. Amen. Mini still like that. I know what I want when I see what I want when I see what I want. I want it. Do you want us? Hi want. It you got it you mind, if I. Little little little it Sunday morning on CBS. And here again is Jane Pauley. Let's Joan Collins with Bob Hope the nineteen sixty two movie the road to Hong Kong, but even with multiple screen roles to her credit. It's a particular TV role that really put Collins on the road to celebrity mole Raka has our Sunday profile. Nineteen hundred one what she doing. What's going on Joan Collins strode into dynasties courtroom into television history? I was very young when I married is to Carrington Alexis Carrington next. Maybe social Phipps, my specialty the woman the entire country love to hate custom realized that when I was driving down some of our and these little kids were in a school bus. And they look wins that Alexis Alexis, we hate you. We hate you. In her native England, even the royals tune, Dan, including the Queen Mother. Oh, yes. Dynasty. We will watch it. I said, oh, and do you hate me said, oh, no, my we view it makes me so happy to know that the Queen Mother was more of an Alexis crystal person. Yes. Too bad crystal that despite your obvious craving for the kind of money, you're really developed any any sense of style about how to use it socially did success at that age feel especially sweet oh in my forties. Yes. I was like I was one hundred. But do you think? At eighty five. She says busy as ever Cup. Dan, seize the day because you have to think of every day is the last day of your life in one day. It will be. Depressing is not the first word that comes to mind. When one meets Dame Joan Collins, finish epi drum whether she's chewing the scenery with relish in American horror story to say that acting was wooden would be unkind trees dishing onstage about her many story life. That's has the number five. Gipson husband number five F Y thirty years younger than she is his seventeen years anniversary. She was born in one thousand nine thirty three. The eldest daughter in a show business family bestselling author. Jackie Collins, was her baby sister. There was a very creative. Imaginative household imaginative. Yes, we always always doing something as a teenager. She studied acting at London's legendary Royal Academy of dramatic art. How did you fit in there? I was the one that old boys who are off to cue me. I'd like it very much pretty soon. Hollywood was after her to in nineteen fifty-five to girl in the red velvet swing landed. Her on the cover of life magazine. It was really my first starring role in America. I got a lot of mediocre reviews. She's beautiful, but can she act as a contract player with the FOX studio? She screen tested for the role of Cleopatra, which famously went to Elizabeth Taylor. Don't you want Egypt? They're worse and very big people who from his me this role. If I would be nice to them. This was the costing couch. I was dancing with one of them in. He was the head of the studio, and he said, I can put you up in a nice little apartment, and I'll come and visit you and he'll not only get old best roles Faulk. But we'll see that you get Cleopatra. I said great idea. I'm he was my agent j Kenta that's go and talk to him about it. Did you know that by doing that, you might be scuttling it? Yes. But I'm never ever ever going to settle for giving my body to some land a row or even young man or anybody would never do that ever. Although she did have some very steamy. Romances you've had some great love affairs, and I one baby. Yeah. Were you in love with Warren Beatty? I think so it's like Prince Charles said, whatever love is we used to stop on Sunset Boulevard at the news agents, and one would look through Mudan screen and see if we had pictures magazine, Harry Belafonte. Yes. Well, that was very romantic and slightly on the forbidden list. Are we mad Allah? We would buy betas sting island in the sun and the sparks flew. I would say he wrote about it in his book too. So I'm not telling tales out of school and along the way three children and those five husbands, can you? Rank your husband's best to worst. Well, Percy by filed the best at high. A worst. Well, it's up put tweet Maxwell read the first one and p two home her second husband actor singer songwriter. Anthony Newley false somewhere in the middle. What kind of a husband was he terrible. No, he did his best. But he wasn't really husband material. What attracted you to him this talent? And I was looking for a father for my children. I had gotten to the broody stage. I was twenty seven every time. I passed pram looking and thought I would like to have a baby. In fact, she had two babies with Anthony, Newley, Tara and Sasha that was watching an episode of what's my line with you. And Tony Yuli. Most of the questions are pretty much directed at Tony newly and you seem okay with it. I didn't have any jealousy. I have everything I want be nice to have a bit more money to keep up my four homes. She has always work on your mind, rather, not say. I've always called myself job ACTA job actress, you do know that your episode of Star Trek is one of the most beloved. Scenarious? You see the same things that I do speak the same language varies. There has been some good roles and some bad wines had three children, and I didn't have much from the husbands. So I was the breadwinner great in tales from the crypt was great and tells him the crew. Christmas when the coal from dynasty came. If she was living in England, caring for her youngest daughter, Katie who was recovering from a terrible car accident. It was dynasty honesty. That's Chinese restaurants the kings road, despite Mohsen occasional differences, you wish meal the best. A best friend's mother watched the show for the close. Did you hear that a lot? Yes, I had a shoot great friend Nolan Mila clothes. I remember once he said you've got a scene in which somebody's trying to strangle you in your office. What do you see yourself wearing I said greens? Wade crosses address. You can do that by tomorrow suggests. Depress wanted you and Linda Evans to hate each other. Yeah. This fence. Bitch. Didn't like me jump foresight. Yes. Susan cure how and it's never going. The gem this old school misogynists stay and a bit sexist peak junk and you'll blunt tramp and get out of my home. He frankly, didn't like this English woman and every single person say, oh, she's made the show you I knew who she was. I knew Beck story. I knew everything about and I really really liked her on my lifestyle, and I fought to make amends world. And I've played by there. It as a man's world. She was the first in powered woman on TV and I go fuck for it. She's such a ball breaker. So bitches that of vixen. I was standing up for myself as an independent woman still stealing the show and telling. I'm grateful was still. Bill guys does back with us this morning with a story to tell about a long ago summer at the lake. Before today's colossal theme. Parks families used to drive to more modest vacation playgrounds like Missouri's beautiful lake of the family vacation land. Those were simpler times we were thrilled at the sight of monkeys driving. Little cars amazed by the five. Dear the lake was beautiful and big hit some out one from out of state seem to ever heard the place. You're probably asking Bill is there any way I can find out more about this fabulous Asian land. Now. Yes, there is in this easy to use handsome new volume that what beauty bursts of color to your home library written by one of our foremost. Authorities on the subject me I worked there for seven summers in my high school and college years and my crazy uncle 's forty two room resort Arrowhead lodge. It's gone now. But the memories still like, oh, it's taken me a good forty years to right? I do tend to progress in eight. And take ten to fifteen words a minute. I'd figured working at a resort would be all speedboats and bikinis. But upon my arrival I was handed boots in shovel and sent to the outdoor septic field. Also known as the chili pond, we couldn't complain we're at the top of uncle heads, pay scale pulling down five bucks a day plus room and board when promoted to bellhop I had to take a pay cut to a dollar because it was in a position to make tips theoretically hose Arkansans to get dipping you might get a tip. If you had changed for a quarter. I met lots of great characters with big ideas, like Larry souvenir king dream and vote tours to see their rare Ozark seals which would be youngster swimming about in Brown. Goshen for dollar an hour. Everyone thought these characters were nuts. So did I, but I liked him that way never cared much for normal people. Real roadkill. What what rose twenty four highway. It was the beginning of my entire career seeking people across the country and around the world who are nutty entrepreneurs with crazy ideas, oddly enough throwing has put me on TV. That's weird. Hundreds of whom you've had on this very program. Dressers for my life at Sunday morning. Is there an emergency brake on this? Standstill. Now, something completely different. But don't take my word for it. Just ask John Blackstone. Excited. Crowd seem to expect the unexpected wild ride. Crazy as they gathered outside of theater in New York City last weekend for the opening of Gary a new play starring Nathan lane Ling is the show's star everyone wanted to have their picture taken. With just one person Taylor. Matt. It's the playwright in performers. I turn on Broadway. It's very rare for something like this to be on Broadway. So I think it's exciting and fun. I hope that people. Celebrate it. Many critics have. Others have not. Then again, listening strong reactions is something of a speciality for Taylor MAC other show twenty four decade history of popular music, earned a Pulitzer nomination. Among many other accolades, I do have a lot of awards that say unique. Is that a caveats? But I'm very happy. I mean, some it has got a. There's no doubt unique definitely describes the twenty four hour show. Maxing two hundred forty six songs spanning American history dressed in the most elaborate drag people think I'm coming to a twenty four hour show or six our show four six hour shows, and they think how can I do that? But because of all the stuff we ask them to do the time goes by very quickly. So this way, you're gonna do you're gonna have a ping pong ball fight. If a pingpong ball hits you you're not allowed to use that part of your body can fight. It sounds crazy. There's almost always a method Taylor max the goal isn't to kill them. Totally break them five more hours show. But it is challenge them and put them through something that they wouldn't normally go through it's about taking risk. This is a risk Jedis. My ninety. In fact, Nathan lane says Gary maybe max riskiest venture yet. It's certainly a challenge for us to show it to you on television. In the main Audrey on pit to the groin. As it seems basic Taylor is he's brilliant mind, but he has been Genda his at the actress agenda just saying this is the kind of thing on the regular you might not be living your best. Part of the agenda is I'm not here to make you comfortable. In fact, I may be here to make you feel uncomfortable. And yet we'll still going to have a lot of fun. You don't want to do to Joel business sign. Fine. Bodies and body parts. Litter the stage so many to choose. Macro as a sequel to Shakespeare's Titus andronicus play in which by the end, virtually everyone has been murdered. I wasn't really so much interested. In tennis Drenica says this little clown. That was in Titus andronicus has a cameo role. Most people may have missed even if you had seen it yesterday. Probably would not remember the cloud from Titus andronicus. But few will forget, Gary, it's the unlikeliest of black comedies. Behind all that flatulence. Play back to potent political message all of us have to clean up after our particular political system that's falling apart right now. And eventually we are going to have to pick up the pieces rather than just continue to fight each other. So what is that gonna look like and who's going to have to do it? And how are we going to do? It is the bigger question Taylor MAC is determined to keep asking those questions. Call me life except in the muck. Now more. Fact me telling stories in new and unexpected ways. So what story are you choosing to tell right now, you're telling a casual professional story to the world, you're wearing your I'm interviewing an artist drac, right? And I'm wearing my I'm being interviewed by CBS drag. I want to look a little bit more a little colorful. But also a little bit more like oh people on Sunday morning and invite me to their home all the world's a stage. Indeed. Well, yeah. Shakespeare said it best. And usually does. I'm Jane Pauley. 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11.12.20 Latinos for Trump, lockdown in Europe, and taxidermy

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11.12.20 Latinos for Trump, lockdown in Europe, and taxidermy

"All the world and everything in it is made possible by listeners. Like ice. i'm ashley. I'm a stay at home. Mom in the woodlands texas. My daughter timber and i love listening to world every morning together and we hope you enjoyed today's episode. Good morning. one thing this election showed is that identity doesn't necessarily equate to politics case. Study hispanics trump hat my from twenty twenty and latinos for trump also europeans. Go back into lockdown mode. As cova cases spike plus world reporter suresh weinsberg visits a small business in utah that preserves family memories dorgan for your family so you in the family name not just the business name was into it and cal thomas on handling emotions after this election. It's thursday november twelfth. This is the world and everything in it from listeners. supported world radio. I'm mary record. And i'm megan basham. Good morning now the news. Here's kent covington. All president trump made his first public appearance this week paying his respects wednesday at the tomb of the unknown soldier. Vice president pence joined him for the veterans day observance as a steady rain fell on arlington national cemetery former vice president. Joe biden meantime attended a service at the philadelphia. Korean war memorial on tuesday biden. Said he's pushing ahead with preparations to become america's next commander in chief though. President trump is disputing election. Results in several states were well underway and The ability for The administration in any way by failure to recognize our win does not Change the dynamic at all what we're able do. However biden is not receiving top level national security information just yet director of national security. John ratcliffe office says by the terms of the presidential transition act. It won't have any contact with biden's transition team until the general services administration says the election results are clear the process called ascertainment. But that may not happen quickly. The trump campaign has filed lawsuits in multiple states. And at least one state plans to recount. Every vote by hand biden holds a slim lead in georgia about fourteen thousand votes out of roughly five million cast georgia's secretary of state. Brad referenced burger announced wednesday. We'll be counting every single piece of paper. Every single ballot. Every single lawfully cast legal ballot. He said the recount will likely take until november twentieth. That's the state's certification deadline and the recount will only apply to the presidential election. A record number of americans are now flooding hospitals due to covid nineteen that as the country surpassed one million new confirmed cases through the first ten days of november. The new wave appears to be bigger and more widespread than earlier surges but experts say the nation is better equipped to deal with the virus. This time around the death rate from covid nineteen is less than half of what it was in the spring. Still hospital workers say capacity is a real concern. Dr julie watson is vice. President with integris health which operates a network of hospitals in oklahoma our local and state healthcare resources are approaching their limits. And if nothing is done soon to slow the rise in cases are hospitals will be more overwhelmed than they already are. And we won't be able to be there for all of those who need it more than sixty thousand. Americans are now hospitalized according to the covid tracking project at harvard. Epidemiologist william hanage said holiday. Gatherings could make matters much worse he told. Pr is the world that there are three cs to avoid if at all possible close spaces close contacts crowding and it's pennies to see how those freed could easily be could easily come altogether when it comes to newly confirmed. Us infections around an all time high of well over one hundred thousand per day the future of popular video sharing app tiktok is in limbo that as the trump administration's deadline to sell off its. Us operations expires today. World's anna joe brown has more. President trump issued an executive order back in august setting knee november twelfth deadline. The administration said it was concerned that tiktok chinese owner bytedance could be sharing. Its user data with the chinese government. In september trump gave his tentative blessing to a deal for bytedance to play tiktok under the oversight of american companies oracle and walmart both companies would receive a financial stake in the company. But bytedance said this week. It's received no clarity about whether the us government has signed off on the deal. The company filed a petition wednesday. Asking federal appeals court to review trump's investment order and the government's national security review reporting for world. I'm ana johannesen brown tropical storm. Ada is lashing florida for a second time this morning. As of last night ada was still packing. Winds of about seventy miles per hour just below hurricane strength stacy stewart with the national hurricane center said he expected tampa to avoid a direct hit with the storm. Slamming the coast somewhere north of the city but water is gonna be pushed up into the drains in the metropolitan area there in the tampa bay area. And then you put on top of that. Rainfall totals perhaps exceeding for to near six inches of rain and That will begin to back up and we'll definitely flood streets and other low lying areas storm tracks. Show eight passing over jacksonville later today before spinning back out over the atlantic. The storm already struck the florida keys and soaked south florida on sunday a us bankruptcy court has approved the sale of the century. Old retail chain jc. Penney a move. That could save sixty thousand jobs world. Kristen flavin has that story. Jc penney is on course to emerge from bankruptcy by thanksgiving that after a texas judge gave the green light to sell the ailing retailer to its largest landlords and lenders for one point seven five billion dollars under the terms of the sale. The chain will split into two entities. The nation's largest shopping mall owners will take over one part of pennies brookefield asset management inc and simon property. Group will acquire its retail and operations assets. Pennies creditors will take over the other part of the company buying distribution centers and other real estate properties. Still the retailer faces an uphill battle to attract shoppers this holiday season as they stay away from the malls and stores for safety reasons and shop online more. Jc penney filed for chapter eleven bankruptcy protection in may becoming one of the largest retailers to do so during the pandemic without a sale the company faced liquidation reporting for world. I'm kristen flab in and covington straight ahead. Growing republicans support among hispanic voters. Plus cal thomas with some post-election advice for evangelical 's this is the world and everything in it a it's thursday the twelfth of november twenty twenty. You're listening to the world and everything in it good morning. I'm megan basham. Mary reichardt well. You've heard us talking about november as the month that we're asking if you're a long-time listener but not yet supporter to make today the day of your first ever gift of support now. 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Onto today's lead story the latino vote one of the biggest surprises for democrats. After last week's election how many hispanic voters supported president trump in other republican candidates especially in places like florida and texas world senior correspondent katie gawltney reports now on the growing conservative movement among hispanics and what to expect from the latino vote in the future. Connie gonzales lives in the heart of san antonio when look leaves no doubt about who she voted for. Trump hit my patriotic earrings. My buttons trump twenty twenty and latinos for trump whenever favorite shirts had stylized graphic of the president wearing a sombrero poncho via style with the words latinos for underneath. She says her family supported trump to got some pushback from friends. There some friends that have said. If you're a christian how can you vote for donald trump. they just don't understand and actually if they call themselves. Christians i item. I don't understand how you can for abortions. Gonzalez's husband is a retired police officers so she appreciated president trump stance on law and order and she largely supports him on immigration. Her family immigrated legally for mexico generations ago and she expects others to go the legal route to she. Even campaigned for trump making calls and helping to organize several car parades known as trump trains all the trump orders out there with flags women for trump latinos for trump. I mean it just gave me bombs just to know that you know. Our president is being lumped. Gonzales wasn't at all surprised. That latinos turned out for trump in bigger than expected numbers but plenty of political analysts. Were samuel. Rodriguez is president of the national hispanic christian leadership conference. He says. democrats made a tactical air. By assuming hispanics are monolithic group. A puerto rican in new york likely has different values than a cuban american in miami or a south texas mexican american. But he says after last week's vote strategists are keyed in on one fact conservatives. Have a chance to court. Hispanic voters chemo community. Said yes to a former engagement ring from america's conservative movement. We're not married yet. Folk no longer flirting. Israel ortega works with the nonpartisan latino advocacy group. Libra he's spent time this election cycle and several heavily hispanic states arizona. Texas and florida ortega says faith was a key part of trump's outreach to christian hispanic voters one of the things that president trump was able to very effectively. I think this cycle was the outreach. He did and evangelical churches in florida In orlando samuel rodriguez agrees the faith component. And trump's support among hispanics clear what brings us together as latinos. The on the language of goa quixote would bring them together. As i've seen us is a commitment to faith and family and rodriguez that emphasis on faith and family resulted in a rejection of several controversial issues at the polls abortion secular totalitarianism and one other key issue and third thing said no to. That was really loud not socialism. So here's my take. The latino community is america's vaccine against socialism. Latino socialism isn't just a buzzword they've seen first or second hand the negative effects of socialist policies we're companies countries we have we have friends in venezuela who are starting today because they're socialism and in cuba and then literally dying of starvation nutrition. So it. it's it's right now in waco cover democratic party. That'd be what about immigration. It seems logical to assume many latino voters would frown on some of the president's border policies particularly at the us mexico border but israel ortega says it not be a priority while the polling. Actually shows that. hispanics Do by immigration. It's not usually the first issue usually. It's you know. Third or fourth even even like education ranks higher than immigration in rodriguez notes that supporting trump doesn't mean wholesale support for his character rhetoric. It's more about recognizing the benefits. Latina's of reaped during his administration policies lined up with latinos the lowest unemployment rate of history personal the lows in american. History cortina's appeals because this guy in the white house. I'm getting paid more money per hour. I'm having more children. I can send my kids to college. It's not what it used to be back in the day. So what's next ortega says republicans will likely try to ride this year's momentum and traditionally blue areas like parts of the rio grande valley in texas democrats on the other hand may see this as a wake-up call that they can't take the hispanic vote for granted for his part. Rodriguez is planning outreach to hispanic voters for the next election and my commitment is for the sake of my children and my children's children. We're going to mobilize latino community so determined the outcome of the twenty two thousand four election without a doubt not just florida and texas but across the nation back in san antonio connie didn't solace remains committed to trump even in the face of what looks like defeat by love. Mariko allow my god on my president my country and they're not going to take that free from no way. I still say joyti reporting the world. I'm katie gulf business Hey coming up. Next on the world and everything in it walk downs. In europe over the summer restrictions loosened across the continent now as kobe nineteen cases spike two levels higher than those of spring. European leaders are once again closing up their countries but this time leaders are trying to avoid the economic and social costs that followed earlier restrictions. World correspondent janine lynch schmidt reports this time. Germany is calling restrictions lockdown light. Stores are staying open but shoppers must wear masks. People are freer to travel. Though strongly encouraged to stay home. Sharon page is a laboratory scientists in munich germany. I spoke with her in april just after germany. Its first locked down back then. People needed an official letter to travel beyond home for work. Almost all stores closed and the government banned social gatherings your lets me up with a lot of people. So that's not no question strips. Last time i think the reason they do that as the mental health the people come you up with somebody. It tries to mitigate the problems. I think that's the thing. I mean you've got to keep the affections but you don't wanna like everyone kidding themselves to be pretty good about it. They're trying to keep people happy. Churches are also open even though singing is not allowed indoors so it pages church once. The welcome is over the congregation heads outside to sing wearing masks. When it rains they stay inside and only the worship leader seeing page says. Most germans follow the rules. But the combination of lockdown fatigue and a lack of personal experience with the virus means some. Don't take government orders seriously. A growing number of germans are criticizing the need for restrictions at all. It's hard to persuade people when they don't know anybody that's they all they see happening. Directly influence is necessary non compliant. Too there it just is growing caseloads in the uk led prime minister. Boris johnson to put england back into a month. Long lockdown starting november fifth all pubs restaurants and most stores are closed colleen carroll outside sheffield in the north of england leaving home should only be for real necessity and travel outside. Her county isn't allowed. I think we're more prepared for this. One businesses are more prepared and they understand what's required them to stay covid safe but churches must close again. That's difficult after a summer of in person worship services and cut her all says that for one older member in particular. The loss of connection is even harder. She said it was a real blow to find out the church had to close again. She's in her eighties. The big change across europe is that schools remain open and governments are working hard to keep them that way that helps keep a semblance of normal life. Ketterle's oldest daughters are university and while their classes are they're back living in their university communities. Paolo tara's and her husband manuel zamudio ona. Kentucky fried chicken franchise in valencia spain. Their business felt the economic hit first hand. When the lockdown began in march they were still able to do some. Take away and drive through business. They soon realize it wasn't cost effective so they closed all their stores completely over the summer. Spain reopened internally. But we're still close to the foreign tourism that makes up ten percent of spain's gdp those are mean at isa majorca many dorm and all these places were tremendously effective for very they read about summer. You know we're case. We were were more exposed to low consumers and delivered of local tourism so we were able to recover back in august of ninety percent of the business that we had very but they're still recovering from springs financial blow government aid that helped pay employee salaries required them to agree not to lay off any employees. That's something to razz mundial. Already wanted to avoid but with reduced sales and more restrictions coming that agreement puts them into a corner last three weeks. I've been the lowest since we reopened. unaware concern because we had to assume significant financial. Blow over the i hit now. We need to be ready to avoid being more damaged by second wave so right now a barren certain time sent despite the answer early terrazas rodeo have found a way to live out their faith during the pandemic. They've found charity partners to collect unused food from their restaurants food. Banks that kind of partnership is new for spain to be called. The first franchise seen country hundred several restaurants donating food because of these day. Along with his pastor who is also starting in entrepreneurship workshop at his church to help those who've lost their jobs in the downturn in a coming helps to help others started their own small business regardless of this is that they can earn agreement to become self sufficient. Help them to start interpreter. Right in and start small business. Middle of with these opportunities can england colin. Catterall says there's an overall sense of resignation to these lockdowns but that people are also figuring out how to live their lives at the same time as living in a world with covid. Nineteen people are realizing. We don't know when this is gonna end and so we need to be reasonable and thoughtful about what we're doing reporting for world. I'm jenny lynch mob. in switzerland. Today is thursday november twelfth. This is world radio and we're so glad you've joined us today. good morning. I'm mary record. And i'm megan basham coming next on the world and everything in it taxidermy. Now follow is open season over the coming weeks. Many deer elk moose turkey. Pheasants and ducks will literally find themselves in. The crosshairs boast will fill freezers. But if you will end up mounted on a mantle or hanging on a wall all thanks to the work of taxidermists. They're equal parts artist and scientists world. Sarah sh- weinsberg spent the day with a family in the business to find out what goes into their craft. The sharp odors of glues and chemicals fills the high you into taxidermy shop. The walls are covered in elk deer and antelope heads from north america. Europe and africa. Dean solti is putting the finishing touches on a life-size mountain lion. You can see muscles in his shoulder. he's using an airbrush to paint the last flex of pink and black on the lions knows. It's golden back is arched as it prowls over rocks and charred walks painted. A black and here to vega was burned another mountain lion. Sheltie recently completed sneers at imaginary pray shoulder. Used clay to sculpt each wrinkle and full of the cat snarl and then we put the big cat skin. Oh the clay. Her storrow is is very difficult to do. I've preschool all the same way a preschool. This is a prescribed. All that detail underneath and then shave skin super super thin. Then i takes me about a day best with it to get it sold. He has spent his life making dead. Things look alive business. Twenty-seven this is my twenty seven year started as a hobby. He's an engineer by training. But then one day workers says wow this is. I think my thing and so start very aggressively pursuing it today. His two sons are also aggressively pursuing the craft with him. Each year hunters shelties hundreds of animals from all over the world younger son. Dominic solti is mounting a mule deer head with an impressive. Antler was a really nice dear. I'm excited to do it. His older brother. Stephen is crafting a similar out. They wanted to do something where they could display. So i'm still cleaning it up. Each of the solti say mounting. The animal is their favourite part of the process. But it's also the shortest set. There's up to nine months of preparation to get to this point. Stephen sheltie says one hundred drops off an animal. It has to be skin to after we get your skin everything we salted then dried and then they dry for about a week. Then sent to a tanner. That's a person who turns an animal hide into leather their turnaround times about five months. When the tanner sends the skin back except dry and steph in order to work with it needs to be soft and flexible. So stephen sheltie soaks it in warm saltwater. Stretch back out of them. But it's still a bit damp. Brian eerie out so he uses a blow dryer to finish drying it. Now it's ready to be stretched onto a deer mannequin made of a lightweight. Hard foam stephen has already made sure. This one is the same size of the original dear next. He cuts the mule deers antlers from its skull and attach them onto the deer form using drills both the have to go on at the perfect angle not sitting too far back or forward dad. Dean solti says details like that are what bring taxidermied animals to life and that takes intimate knowledge of an animal's anatomy. He points back to his big cat. A mountain line always keeps its head at an angle. They carry their head out of forty five. So he's looking this way. Their head is tilted even when they're looking straight ahead and that affects the way a mountain. Lions pupil set always gonna notice. They're looking at their pupils pupils. Not in the center because their head is angled down so dean solti is careful to place. The synthetic is in the exact right place. So one way i'll be able to pick in improperly. Cats is it still have that role to the center. Those are just little things that you've got to pay attention to carnivores. After he puts the is in. Antlers on stephen solti slathers the mannequin in glue and pulls the skin over the head. Skiing put on like that. She saw it goes around if he is done all the prep work correctly. The skin should fit like a glove tested. And you're like if it's great. Were you say oh. It's pretty close. I'm going to make it go that term. I'm gonna make you go. And then that can be stressful. 'cause sometimes some feeding this skin fits well. Stephen grabs a thick needle dark thread and so's up cuts in the dears. Hi i'm a good seamstress. This is one reason the family this job it takes so many different skills and dominik solti says it's fun to put those skills to use for the family business. If you're working for your family so you the family name not just. The business took. Now that the skin is sewn. Up steven staples the end to the back of the mannequin mount. He doesn't want the skin to come loose. Happens declined as moving it. Or she's a cab you know when she's gone looks trashy is just not over the next week. Stephen will do more detailed work. Paint the nose and make sure the skin doesn't wrinkle then. This dear will finally head home to its hunter. Are you guys doing speaking of hunters. Customer scott causer stops by to pick up his elk. He and his son shot it last year. He says he got it mounted for two reasons. 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So have you done it. Given the environment in which a lot of schools are going away or shrinking. What have you all done. Well i think it's We sort of follow the principle that you might follow financial investing. You don't put all your money in one place and there are too many colleges today. Who really have said and they're smaller type colleges. We're going to focus on residential enrollment. That's all we're going to focus on but if you start looking at some of the trans and depending on where you are geographically. High school graduates are declining in numbers. Fewer people going to college a lot of environmental factors. So we said we're going to follow the same kind of model that you would investing and that is we're going to diversify so we said we're going to not just worry about residential students. We're going to build online programs. We're going to build our enrollment programs. 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Perhaps no evangelical pastor has been a stronger and more consistent supporter and defender of president trump than robert jeffers. He leads the thirteen thousand member. First baptist church in dallas texas in an essay written for the website fox news dot com jeffers urges. His fellow believers to return to their. I love the presumption is that god should be on the side of republicans and conservatives but as scripture reminds us in isaiah fifty five eight for my thoughts are not your thoughts. Neither are your ways. My ways declares the lord jeffers acknowledges that the election of former vice president biden and senator comma. Harris is a bitter pill for christians to swallow but he adds quote human government and rulers change god's direction and design our faith and our salvation lies not in any human rohrer but in the ruler of rulers. The king of kings the fact that god has established authorities means that by obeying the government. We obey god unquote for many. 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#EERS S8 Ep112: Absolutely Whataboutism

The Erick Erickson Show

50:42 min | 1 year ago

#EERS S8 Ep112: Absolutely Whataboutism

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Welcome meade is Eric Erickson here your Atlanta's evening news on W._S._B.. The full number four zero four eight seven zero seven five zero one eight hundred W. S. B. Talk Yeah yeah we gotta go. We've we've got to discuss the president president and his tweets but I would like to put them in proper context for you and in there will be those who say this is all what aboutism but I gotta say this I do and I need to spend time here. Let me let me do the news and analysis of it before I really get it into what I think <hes> before I even do that. I want to remind you <hes> that our own Scott slade who has been part of your morning every morning for decades in Atlanta the host of Atlanta's morning news is being nominated for induction in the National Radio Hall of fame and there's a chance for him if he gets it he'll be joining Clark Howard. He'll be joining Neil bortz. His induction is in the spoken word category and that depends on listener votes so go to wsbradio.com if you will and linked to the voting site. It's it's there on E._S._P._N.. RADIO DOT COM. It's free. It's easy Scott. Slade certainly deserves this <hes> but because it's the spoken word category it depends on listener votes so please go to wsbradio.com dot com and do that now. What did the president do on Sunday morning? The president tweeted about <hes> Alexandra Kazu Cortez <hes> and Ilhan Omar and two other members of Congress the four of whom by the way we'll be having a press conference at five thirty today to maximize ring as much media spectacle out of this as possible and the president said basically <hes> go back to your country. The problem with the president going this route is is that with the exception of Yulon Omar all of the rest of them are American citizens and their parents were American citizens and we're we're talking about second generation Americans <hes> at at worst <hes> or or multiple generation Americans in some cases as so. It's it is demeaning to immigrants for the president to look at these people. They're not white and say go back. Go back home <hes> and their home is the United I just states of America with the exception of Johann Omar who probably should not be in the United States giving her for this country the there's a bigger problem here though on on the political front and that is the Democrats have been feuding with each other for a week Alexandra cousin Cortez Calling Nancy Pelosi racists the president defending Nancy Pelosi. You've had all of that and now the president has entered the fray in an entering the fray has allowed the Democrats to all get back on the same page but also so as allowed the media to go after Republicans in demand where they stand on the president's tweet which they love to do in the president made it very very easy for them. <hes> do not intervene when your opponents or beating themselves to a bloody pulp and they were and the president intervened and now everybody's beating the Republicans to a bloody pulp because of his stupid tweet the Itchy twitty tweeting fingers of this president caused him more trouble than any any democrat. He has his own worst enemy but we need to put the rest of this improper context as well because the media has spent the entire weekend now <hes> C._N._N.. A._B._C. News Good Morning America. They're all flat out saying the racist tweets racist tweets. They're demanding that every Republicans say racist if you say their native is to say there's phobic. If you say they're bad <hes> the media says racist. You have to say racist unless you say racist I. It's like the media demanding you cry uncle. You have have to say the word. If you don't say racist you have it condemned the president of it's very dogmatic. Have you noticed fair. Religious let like is Jesus Wiser is he. Your Lord and Xavier will will will Jesus's my forbid is a your Lord and Savior. You must repent torn down by this is this is what the media's doing here with with this you you have. If you don't say racist specifically used that word then somehow you're not condemning the president you you are accepting your embracing your affirming him unless you use that word y'all I I gotTa tell you I'm checked out on this. At this point. I'm tired of play in the game by the media where the President says something dumb bad racist. Whatever and we've all got a running enfold Ho oh yes it was terrible? We all condemn it. Did you know that an an ice facility immigration customs enforcement facility in Washington state was firebombed over the weekend by Antifa the ANTIGA member who launched the firebomb attack had a manifesto where he quoted Alexandru Cossio Cortez and these were concentration camps speed run by the government. Have you heard that in the media yet. Have you heard it 'cause it's there in the local media. It's all over local beep at the national media there there too busy talking about the president's tweet. I'm willing to bed. Do we spent three days on James Hodgkinson. When James Hodgkinson committed a mass assassination attempt on republican members of Congress based on Republican Bob left-wing rhetoric that Republicans were going to kill people the media spit three days on that story never once critically analyzed left wing rhetoric causing someone to attempt to mass assassination on Republican members congressman they moved on? I'm willing we're going to spend a longer new cycle. In the president's tweet than the media ever spent on James Hodgkinson attempting to mass assassination of Republican members of Congress win fluidly Corcoran's went into the Family Research Council during the Obama Administration the situation fueled by a left wing hatred of the Research Council as a Christ AFO Christ bigoted centric whatever fascist krista fascist organization that wanted to put gays in a Holocaust or whatnot that that was the left wing rhetoric against <hes> <hes> Family Research Council fluidly Corcoran's a bunch of chick-fil-a sandwiches went over to family research council Washington with the gun and intended to go in and kill every single employees and stuff their faces which chick-fil-a sandwiches haven't is the media was moved on from that new cycle within twenty four hours so we've got to people based on left wing rhetoric attempted mass assassinations of conservatives. We have a man who firebombed and Ice Facility based on the statements of a member of Congress and the media is positively fixated that everyone must denounce a tweet by the president of the United States. The tweet was bad. It was unhelpful. It was wrong but it didn't 'cause anybody to get assassinated. Did didn't cause anyone to get shot didn't cause any ICE facility to burn down a at what point do we look at the median say you guys are obsessed about the president you could say but he's the President United States. Yes except win. have his tweets gotten people killed. There's a Lotta left wing rhetoric tr- nearly getting people killed and those of us on the right had been looking at this for wild say wait a second ANTIFA is getting really violent over here and we got people on T._v.. Say No no no. It's just moral it it. It is moral moral outrage and that's different from the Nazis in the streets Antigua's different. Is it really different I mean why do I have to get on my horse every day and say orange man bad because the media says I must when the media turns a complete blind eye to everything on the left these days the do. I hope you get the point I making here. There is no defensive what the president did. There's no reason to defend it. You don't have to defend everything but there's no reason to also you'd go out with your flag-waving and say bad bad bad bad bad when you know the media's not going to do the same on the left anymore. Why bother why bother there is no incentive? Let me just put all of this and proper context by playing you this montage of the media I argue tonight. All punches are not equal morally in the eyes of the law yes but in the eyes of good and evil here's the argument there strictly principled anti-fascists fascists and what they see in the trump administration and what they see happening in this country they see they see the neo-fascism that we see and they've taken a principal stand to stand against white supremacists and white nationalist wherever they may show up just says it right right in the name Antifa Anti Fascism which is what they were there <hes> fighting listen. There's no organizations perfect. There was some violence. I think that a lot of people recognize that when pushed self defense is legitimate response to White Supremacist Neo Nazi violence the problem is to equate violence in reaction against bigotry with the bigotry itself is to miss understand the fact that when you go to cancer treatment the radiation is tough treatment but it is meant to remove the cancer they wouldn't have been anywhere near there had not been for the fact that White Supremacist Neo Nazis were out scaring the Living Day louth out of most of the people in that town thuggishness is thuggishness wherever it comes from politically and we should be the first to call it l.. I disagree agree there you go. That's the media justified ANTIFA for last year. The media has justified Antifa as those of us on the right had been pointing out. These people are getting more and more violent more and more violent constantly violent. They're beating up journalists in the streets. In many of the same blue checkmark people out there who are attacking the president for his tweets were defending Antifa for beating up the journalist. I am unaware of any of the president's tweets inspiring a mass assassination attempt. I am quite aware of multiple democratic talking points about Republicans wanting to kill people by repealing obamacare causing mass assassination attempt to Republicans of Congress. I am very well aware of democratic rhetoric against Christian groups causing a mass assassination attempt against a Christian group in Washington D._C.. We shouldn't have to engage in the what about Zamir what about this. What about that? You know what that with the left is doing is they are using what aboutism that this idea that when you they say this you say that and they say oh what about what about no no we're focused on this will they only want to focus us on that. If you only wanNA focus on that they are willfully ignoring this growing violence on the left because they identify with it and enlarge part they think it's valid and legitimate you heard it in the montage montage the defensive it from Chris Chris Cuomo and Don limit on C._N._N.. And others and now these people are firebombing ice facilities ripping down American flag hoisting Mexican flags and using Alexandru Kazu Cortez's words do it and by the way many of these same journalists justified her use of the were of the phrase concentration camps and yet they are focused fixated on a tweet by the president that harmed no one. They want me to say it's bad yeah. He shouldn't have done it he. Should have done it for a whole host of reasons but they don't want to give any attention to the other stuff and that is really the problem here. That is really how underhanded the media is right now. In this conversation they are so fixated on all the flaws with the president and all the problems with the president they don't WanNa take the time to analyze the other side and in the process so many of us who are paid attention are now at the point of saying you know what I mean not care here for the guy but I got a vote for him. Look at the other side and the media completely is confounded by it. They don't understand why someone who doesn't care for the president would still vote for the president over the left because they relate so much to the left and can't see what's happening on the left and they certainly don't want to report on it fairly accurately. I have a confession to make <hes> we had a bunch of phone calls from people who wanted to defend the president and I don't WanNa take them <hes> because you don't have to defend everything and you can stop with your twelve dimensional multifaceted chest the president's twenty three billion thousand steps ahead. He's a genius and he's GonNa win reelection by tweeting stuff like this and forcing every Republican to take time out of their day to deal with reporters who wanted to announce him no sometimes the president's just in idiot and he can't help himself. Sometimes it really is that simple <hes> am I vote for the Guy Yeah. Absolutely I'm voting for the guy a a with the left should be doing is they should look at this as a matter of self reflection and saying why or guys who are willing to go on radio and say you know what the president was wrong. He shouldn't have done this still vote for the guy over us well because the president for all of his fault doesn't want to destroy the country doesn't want to rip children half and sell them limb for limb through planned. Parenthood doesn't want to have a bunch of socialist takeover. The country doesn't want to destroy the economy doesn't want to do a host of things that the left would otherwise do so yeah for all the president's faults and there are numerous and I'm happy to call them out. I'M NOT GONNA waste my time on but but I just this whole having everyone calling you know what the president was. Yeah was the president right to call these people. Yes should the president call the mount. Yes should the president call Audi L. Hunt Omar yes should he call Alexandra Gaza Cortez. Yes should have done it the way he did it. No you don't have to defend it. All you don't have to defend it all and you don't have to concoct some crazy scheme to convince yourself that he's fifty billion steps ahead plane multidimensional chess. Sometimes it is what it is an in nothing more <hes> so no any there's there's no there's no reason to take the phone calls and they're just GonNa make me mad. I'm already in a bad moved today. <hes> now I've had to deal with the stuff all day long what you know I have specifically gone onto my way to not use the word racism with presence tweet and I want to tell you why not because I think they're not I I think the president should have done it and I'm I'm willing to say the president shouldn't have done it but I'm not gonNA get pigeonholed by the media using. They're talking points the way they insist that I do it because you know they're never gonNA talk about Antifa that way. Does it sound petty China's. Maybe does maybe is but I'm I'm really really getting tired of the moral tyranny of these progressive activists within the media. The Blue checkmark crowd demanding that I talk about something exactly the way they want me to talk about it in if I don't I'm somehow terrible bad. What have you win win? The media specifically refuses to talk about all of these other stories downplays them dismisses them puts them on the the last page of the newspapers as oh but they were the paper we covered them know. What about this tearing down the American flag at an ice facility in Colorado? That's something we need to talk about when we come back and the Democrats defending it all right I look I save your breath. Just there's no reason to call in in defend the tweets today. I'm just not in the mood for it. I'm really not <hes> <hes> throughway a just a great opportunity to have the Democrats on defense <hes> but here's what I'll take your phone calls on this ice round up nonsense by the Democrats four zero four eight seven two zero seven five zero one eight hundred W._S._b.. Talked C._N._N.. Put the ANTIFA fire bomber. It appears according to Fox's which I find very delicious. The C._N._N.. Is Obsessed. These days about what's on the Fox News Website Fox News website is running a story that C._N._N.. appeared to have given some favorable coverage to the fire bomber who tried to firebomb ice and at the same time the media his really not done a whole lot to condemn antifa activists for tearing down the American flag a nice facility in Colorado in raising the Mexican flag. You know my buddy chip Roy who will be at the resurgent gathering was in Colorado he'd gone up for a baseball game with his family and welled up going to the ice facility there were the Mexican flag was hoisted and John Hickenlooper. The former governor of Colorado will listen to him win. The media was asked about <hes> what he thought of these Antifa the activists hoisting the Mexican flag over the Ice Facility. This was the demonstration on Friday at the ice facility where they pulled down the American flag and then put up it would appear as though to be an upside down spray painted the American flag and then the Mexican flag over the Ice Facility. It doesn't get much more progressive and radical than that. Is that something that is a moderate needs to be condemned. Well I sort of respect the American flag in my whole life. I've been fighting to make this country and to make sure that this country welcomes everybody that flag represents. Everyone and I'm old enough. I remember when people were burning the flag in in protests of the Vietnam War. The museum at this country is we're really in one place on earth and one of the few plays on earth that level of freedom of speech is still protected so I might not approve of it but but I think that that freedom is something that we as Americans should recognize recognize and said hey that's part of our core freedom. I appreciate walking the line as you point out. There is the way to say I defend your right to do it but I find the behavior of horned. Are you willing to say that doing that. Added ripping down the American flag over facility and running up the Mexican flag is wrong doesn't send the right message is not what is going to united as you say is so important. I think there are better ways to United S- There's no question about that. You'll find and all kinds of things that as question of whether you're a progressive or modern I feel like you know the progressive things that we've accomplished in Colorado are are very extreme monitor. They're very aggressive. See this is what I'm talking about. He can't actually condemn it. He can't bring himself to condemn what happened this. It's just it's. It's my numbing to me that we are. It's very much like the montage I played earlier of ANTIFA. They can't bring themselves again. In the short I listen I think the president's treat was wrong. He shouldn't have done it but we'll move onto another new cycle and it will be forgotten except except by the most aggressive members of the media and what will happen in the meantime will will happen in the meantime is we're GONNA continue to have Democrats moving further and further to the left we will have Democrats continuing to say thanks so listen. Who did this is Yulon Omar at the nut reach nation gathering in Philadelphia of online activists? Listen to this something that I get criticized for all the time. It's not what you think so don't don't gas it is that I am anti-american because I criticize the United States and I I I believe as an immigrant Dan. I probably love this country more than anyone that is naturally born and because I am ashamed of continuing to live in it's it's the hypocrisy. It's hypocrisy that I worked so hard to make sure that others who've had that like why just be American. Why don't you be more like an American can continue to say that? Why can you be more like an American used to be very positive thing we export American exceptionalism the Great America the land of Liberty and justice that is you ask anybody in walking on the side of the streets somewhere in the middle of the world they will tell you America great but we don't live those values here and so that hypocrisy is one that I'm bothered by? I want America the great to be Canary Kinda great so she wants America the great to be America the great and yet she can't see it while she's here or are we not great. Apparently she bought into some <hes> propagandize version of America that she feels deeply disappointed by because she's she she doesn't see it and yet <hes> and refugee immigrant into this country is elected to Congress something to celebrate something that affirms that the American ideal of being grading yet she doesn't see it and she wants to condemn it. <hes> we can't talk about that though because the prisoners tweet you know that that's my singular frustration more than anything is how the media amplifies the things the president does to patently avoid have discussed any of these sorts of statements it is it's so frustrating and here we have increasingly this radicalism from Democrats except you know who he's paying attention to the stuff voters. The voters have already made their calculation about the president but there's new data to suggest they're starting to make calculations about the Democrats and they may prefer the president despite himself listen the voters are paying attention to this stuff and they've already factored in the president they they've had multiple years now to factor in the president and what they're starting to see is though the president may he not the B Guy They care for the president may not be the guy that they think should really be leading the nation. The may not be the guy they wish would lead the nation. They're actually more comfortable with him in that position than they would be Democrats because of their stated ideology Joe Biden continues to do well against the president of the United States in his polling but fewer and fewer of the Democrats out there do and there's new polling lean out from a democratic firm about what the voters in swing districts are looking at and increasingly it appears that the voters in swing districts are looking at people like Alexandru Ocasio Cortes and the rest and and they're starting to get alarmed by what they're seeing with this increasing radicalism on the left. The pauline is striking. How voters and swing districts tricks are allowing Alexandra Cortez to define the Democrats as the Democrats are allowing her in the voters are more and more decided? You know what this isn't what we want. This is a democratic polling firm that did this polling of Democrats. It was leaked to axios as kind of a a warning Sign Democrats that you've got a problem. Let me give you some of the finding tear A._O.. See was recognized by seventy four percent of voters. Orders in the poll and only twenty two percent of them had a favourable view of her. You'll Han Omar of Minnesota recognized by fifty three percent of the voters only nine percent had a favourable view of her socialism was viewed favorably by eighteen percent of the voters unfavourably by sixty nine percent capitalism had a fifty six percent favorable rating thirty two percent unfavorable socialism is toxic to these voters according to the top Democrat. Who did the polling between the lines Democrats are performing better with these voters than twenty sixteen though not as well as twenty eighteen party leaders have to continue to try to define themselves around more mainstream candidates three members of the so-called squad which is ridiculous <hes> you'll hunt Omar Omar Rashida to leave of Michigan a Presley of Massachusetts definitive approach while appeared in Philadelphia on a panel at nut roots nation and all they're defending is the radicalism it is striking striking to me that the Democrats are having to leak polls to the press to get the attention of the Democratic leaders? That's what's happening here. A democratic polling firm highly respected pulling for I'm pretty sure I know which firm it is leaked leaked this to axios to get the attention of party leaders who were otherwise ignoring that they have this problem. The Democrats are so fixated on twenty twenty their motto in Orange Ban bad that they can actually comprehend that you know what voters would rather stick with him than go with their radicalism and the polling the starting to show that for the Democrats but wait. There's even more data now from the New York Times on this exact point from the New York time. Oh let's talk to Robert and Covington Robert how are you how are you today. Are you doing just fine. <hes> you know we own on the conserve the side of football here all the time talk about the left movie further to further to the left mother to <hes>. I'm curious what your thoughts on this. How much for over to the Left Candle left Uh? It's still has a waste to go with. Remember doubt what we have here. I I hate to get into Glenn Beck Motor. Start talking about overton windows <hes> but you know the the over to Windows the argument that when you start talking about something you're tried to move the window of of what is rational in mainstream thought in your direction <hes> so you had a bunch of Democrats who for years we're talking about universal health care and socialism and it was outside the over to window but they kept talking talking to talk and seeing the conversation move further in their direction and they've still got a ways to go with communism and everything else. <hes> you know A._O._C. say that she's a socialist not a communist in response to Lindsey Graham and the president would she sounds like a communist to me <hes> but they still have a waste to go. They can go very far to the left. When we come back? It is having an impact with the voters. There is actually Ashley some new data from the New York Times the media would much prefer you pay attention to the N._B._C. poll that wasn't good for the president and ignore the actual voter data in swing districts and within the Electoral College one. We have hello good evening. Welcome it Eric Erickson here Atlanta's evening news on W._S._B.. The phone number four zero four eight seven zero seven five zero one eight hundred W. S. B. Talk. We gotta move on from the President's residents tweet the reason we move on from the president's tweet is because the media would one prefer we never move on from it but to because they're actually is some very interesting news out there and to get to that news. I think the way to frame it is to go with Amy Klobuchar. The senator who is running for president who is beginning to distinguish herself from for example Elizabeth Warren <hes> let me play you what she said on a key policy issue among the Democrats Elizabeth Warren this week came out with a proposal falling on what Hooley on Castro said in in the in the debate <hes> to decriminalize unauthorized border crossings. You said you were going to look at that and the debate I have you do you support that idea. I support different enforcement priorities and of course I'll look at this stat to see if you can make changes depending on the level of security risk but no I don't support open borders and simply getting rid of the statue yet that she doesn't support open borders. She doesn't support getting rid of the statute that is now Elizabeth Warren key platform on immigration at the same time. You Have Democrats demanding that Joe Biden denounced. It's the deportations that occurred dirt Brock Obama so oh that reminds me Oh. I'm so glad this so C._N._N.. Is running an analysis of the deportations done by Barack Obama versus Donald Trump it is it just I love the analysis analysis it actually amounts to Barack Obama deported more people than Donald Trump but orangemen bad and I wish I was exaggerating but I'm not really the entire analysis is is that yes barack. Obama deported many more people <hes> year-by-year then donald trump is deporting but Barack Obama's heart was in the right place and Donald Trump says at that that is the analysis at C._N._N.. Over what's happening S- crazy it is crazy. Now Democrats are demanding that Joe Biden renounce the deportations by the Obama Administration. Someone shoved a microphone in his face to ask you what he was going to do. Yeah the question are you don't really matters deportation deportation for a serious belding deportation deportation misdemeanor should be devoted to be no family separation so you have the Democrats now demanding that Joe Biden denounce the deportations of the trumpet minority of the Obama Administration that he was complicit in and he says no and they're shouting him down and this is starting to turn off voters and the data showing it. It's not just internal democratic polling show in it. It's also the New York Times. This whole thing is crazy. So The New York Times analyzing the data Democrats have been telling you something <hes> that I actually said on air looking at the data but the New York Times Nate Cohen has gone back through and analyze the data that you know the Democrats are able to pick up Pennsylvania Wisconsin Michigan in twenty eighteen states. The Donald Trump had one in two thousand sixteen they did so in twenty eighteen with a huge wave of voters on orders of levels not seen outside of presidential campaigns and the president does have his challenges but it turns out that the single biggest pool of people who did not turn it up to vote were trump voters yeah so for example in <music> Wisconsin the Democrats won the state by about a half a percentage point to take the governor's race against Scott Walker and it was donald trump's voters who hatton shown up they didn't turn out for Scott Walker very much like Barack Obama's voters turned out for Barack Obama two thousand eight hundred thousand twelve but did not turn out for congressional Democrats in two thousand ten and two thousand fourteen the same phenomenon is helping Donald Trump. Donald Trump's voters did not turn out in twenty eighteen four the Republicans they turned up for Donald Trump. They did not turn up for the Republicans and that is actually something that's going to impact twenty twenty and now the New York Times is starting to fred about it and it's not just in your time starting to read about it it is it's it's fairly frightening to a bunch of Democrats who have headed their heads since two thousand eighteen. Oh all we gotta do is keep our voters fired up and they're gonNA turn back out and twenty twenty and we'll be ably booby able to in Georgia that's with with the Democrats have been thinking well. The data shows that's not true. You know we can think about that in Georgia so there's a report out today Lucy Macbeth <hes> congresswoman in the six congressional district who beat Karen Handel. She has cash on hand nine hundred thirty thousand in dollars. <hes> all of the Republicans are down Karen Handel. I think has the most and she's about three hundred thousand dollars. I think <hes> so significant money for Macbeth. This is a district. It'd be highly fought over except there's a problem for my bath. It turns out that even down into hurt district. One of the things that happened is not just this turn off the the media's been telling us about the turn off of suburban voters from Republicans. A lot of suburban voters now have become Democrats but also a lot of voters just didn't turn added twenty eighteen and there's a larger issue here that I've been beating into you for a year now Republican Ground Game Operations in twenty eighteen sucked it wasn't good. They weren't good and the problem of course obviously is that if they were good in twenty eighteen the Republicans weren't GonNa turn up well twenty twenty. He's going to be good because the presence on the ballot so people who may not just show up for your run-of-the-mill Republican congressman will show up for Donald Trump because he's there guy so Republicans have this built in turn out operation just by having the president of the ballot and then on top of that they'll be able to focus their turn out on getting people to go vote for Republican members of Congress now. How will it turned up well? If the President keeps doing what he's doing like with with tweeting as he's done then I think it winds up the president because the president still does need to get some more people listen the president could potentially win with the electoral college and be the first person in American history to win twice losing the popular vote while we need the electoral college and you and I would probably only be fine with that because California is so overwhelmingly skews everything population wise in New York as well. I'm okay with that though the rules are designed for the electoral college but at the same time we also have to remember there were seventy thousand votes in Michigan Wisconsin and Pennsylvania where we're the president does need to compete and he doesn't need to make sure that is close into this is part of the problem that the presence team has to deal with they shoot in theory be able to navigate through states like Georgia and even in Texas where polling has been showing that some people have qualms about the president but the president needs to stabilize enough so that he's not having to spend resources in those states. The president should not have to spend a ton of resources to keep Georgia Georgia is a Republican look in state and when you go back through twenty eighteen you look at the metrics. What you find is that the Democrats had high turn out and the Republicans did not if the Republicans turn out at a presidential rate in Georgia? The Democrats may actually lose seats again in state legislature. Yeah you heard me right. The Democrats may actually lose seats. The narrative is that Democrats want to gain seats in twenty twenty in the Georgia legislature now the Roulston situation may help them with that but the Republicans in two thousand eighteen did not turn out at Presidential Level Democrats. It's did guess what twenty twenty is presidential elections. Guess what's going to happen. Republicans will probably turn up at a presidential election rate which means it should take Georgia off the table for the Democrats and keep it for the president that should happen so that the president can spend his money the in places like Michigan Wisconsin and Pennsylvania Iowa and not have to spend his money in Georgia but the more the president does what he does. He is his own worst enemy. He throws the narrative to the Democrats all the time. There's going to be a press conference. At Five thirty. Seve those four idiots in Congress and I'm sure that the media will spend another week on this. They will spend more on this than when there was a mass assassination attempt against Republican members of Congress they they absolutely will you know what I know it. We all know it. It is going to be interesting to see how the president response though here here's the thing though I have this working theory every time the president overplays his hand into something he shouldn't do we can reliably depend on the Democrats doing the same with Gusto and re shifting the narrative back to the center and if the President Justice careful well then the Democrats are going to have problems yet again. It is Eric Erickson here the phone number four four eight seven zero seven five zero one eight hundred W._S._b.. Talk I emailed this out to you guys over the weekend but it is it's so worth listening to this clip of Alexandria 'cause you is having circles run around her <hes> by and the director of immer former Director of Immigration and Customs Service. We don't have time to play the full clip when we come back. I've got to play the clip for you. I absolutely have to play it. It is incredible what happened also he hears something. I did not know Joe. Lieberman son lives in Georgia. You Know Joe Lieberman Al Gore's running-mate for two thousand almost became <hes> John McCain's running-mate John McCain desperately wanted him in twenty two thousand eight but was convinced he had have Sarah Palin to bring Republicans out will Joe Lieberman Obermann son lives in Georgia wants to rent for the Senate against David Purdue. I kid you not what is it about all these people who go to Congress in their kids or their spouses or whoever and the family decides hey. It's my seat now or or I want to be there too and yeah. We're not an inherited country. We this incredible clip and also what the Georgia G._O._P.. needs to be worried about the full number here four zero four eight seven zero seven five zero one eight hundred W._S._b.. Talk I as as I predicted an hour ago so the Democrats would inevitably overplay their hand and yes it appears they did. I can't play you there press conference because there was so much profanity in their press conference <music> geniuses yes <hes>. Why is everybody so bad at politics these days what wire people so bad at politics these days? Some of the stuff is so obvious and I guess we're we're all fixated on this rules. Don't apply bit and yet the rules do apply the rules have always applied you know where the rules also apply the the rules apply to Republicans Georgia Georgia. I think Republicans of the House of the Senate need to get a little bit strategic because you got people like Houston gains for example <hes> over an Athens Great Guy Nice Guy in the House representatives <hes> one of the seats being targeted by the Democrats. It's easy hasn't spoken up on the speaker <hes> he probably needs to do so. It's Tessler you know is very interesting. <hes> I'm wondering if he cut a deal with the speaker will some of his colleagues think that he cut a deal with the speaker that he would be able to he was desperate to pass fetal heartbeat that cut a deal with the speaker speaker would get through if he didn't come out and speak up against the speaker. A lot of his colleagues seemed to be under the impression that he could deal with the speaker <hes> to get fetal heartbeat that it was more important to him than getting rid of the speaker which is which is fine valid choice. I guess <hes> but you get these Houston gains in others out there who have it spoken up on the speaker and I'm starting to think that there is a strategy Reggie. They need to deploy because here's thing you also have senators <hes> what John Albertson I think is one became Martin as one <hes> you've you've got other senators out there who are in very tight races that are going to be targeted by Democrats and they're going. It'd be attacked on this David Rolston scandal and so here's what I'm suggesting to them. The people need to be smart about how they handle this all you need her. Sixteen Republicans just sixteen Republicans in the House already tin. You'd eat six more to come up and say we're not going to cooperate with conference until the speakers gone he will have to rely on the Democrats to pass his agenda. I don't think about that for a minute. I mean the speakers already Sigli. No conservative legislation is going to get past this coming year the state legislature <hes> because he thinks it'll hurt them. Well what you need to do as you need to make the Democrats own the speaker for scandal and there's a really easy way to make the Democrats own the speaker scandal because you know right now travel and the Democrats are no of course. We're not gonNA make as talk anything about the speaker she had no. We're not going to do that so you put the ball in their court. You say you know what you're going to talk about the speaker Seattle you say it's no big deal so we're done with him a sixteen were. We're not going to support anything. We're not going to do anything we're even GONNA hijack the governor's gyda we're GONNA block everything out of the governor's office until the speakers dealt with and that makes the Democrats then have to support the speakers agenda it makes the speaker half work with the Democrats and that neutralizes the issue in twenty twenty if the Democrats are the ones keep the speaker in power now because the sixteen Republicans say we want nothing to do with him. Then the Democrats can't turn around and use it other Republicans because these these sixty reports they will all wait a second. It's not us we wanted to get rid of him but the Democrats are a property up and then it becomes an issue and frankly then becomes an issue or the Gov- Lieutenant Governor have to get involved it becomes an issue where Senate Republicans who are worried about their reelection. They've got to speak up and say the speakers gotta go but times wasting the need to get something done. Let's see Jim in Decatur. Welcome to the program Jim Thank you tally is the president's it is the president trying to keep the squad of four of a concert Cortez to lay at all as as front and center the face of the Democratic Party albeit with some very clumsy <hes> home twice this weekend. Oh I absolutely think that this is part of the president's agenda is he knows the pulling his out there showing that they are increasingly the face of the Party and that's why he wants them. In fact he hinted is much listened to the president trump he just said don't go see I disagree with Lindsay these congressman. What am I supposed to do just wait? Wait for senators now. These are four disagree with that. That was the only thing he said aim higher shoot higher. What am I gonNA do? Wait until we get somebody else in a higher position higher office these people that hate our country. Can I just see a misunderstood what Lindsey Graham John. They hate our country. They hate it. I think with a passion now it's possible I'm wrong. The voter will decide but what I hear the way they talk about our country. When I here the Anti Semitic language they use when I hear the hatred they have for Israel and the love they have serve enemies like al Qaeda then you know what I will tell you that I do? I do not believe this is good good for the Democrat Party certainly not the party that I've known over the years yeah he's so he wants to keep it front and center. I gotTa take a quick time out because when we come back to play the CEO C._I._O.. Eat is priceless. You have got to hear this. She is so befuddled old by encountering competence in office they are y'all. We gotTA play this audio. This is this is fantastic. <hes> this is Alexandra Cousin Cortez on Friday in the hearing in the House of Representatives <hes> talking to the former head of ice who <music> author these zero Tolerance Policy Recommendation to Secretary of Homeland Security Kristen Nielsen at the time says the official recommendation there were three different options presented the third included the option for for family separation. This initiative would pursue prosecution of all amenable adults including those presenting with the family unit. Mr Home and your name is on this. Is this correct so you who are the author of the Family Separation Mammal. You're not the author but you sign the memo. Yes zero tolerance mental so you provided the official recommendation to Secretary Nielsen on family for the United States to pursue family separation. I gave Secretary Nielsen numerous recommendations and how does secure the border and save lives it says here that you you gave her numerous options but the recommendation was option three family separation saying this is not not the only paper where we given the secretary numerous options to secure the border in save lives and so the recommendation of the many that you recommended you recommend a family separation recommend zero tolerance which includes family separation operation the same as ever you a citizen parent gets arrested win the where the child zero tolerance was interpreted as the policy that separated children from their arrested for D._U._I.. Young child vowed car. I won't be separated. Police officer New York and arrested father for domestic violence. I separate that respect. Legal societies are not charged with any crime when you're under the country illegally as violation eight United States thirteen twenty-five asylum is legal. He wants to consign to go through the port of entry. Do the legal way the Attorney General the United States made that clear okay yes. That's the point here you can seek asylum legally in this country but you have to go through point of injury except they changed the rule today. We'll have to spend time on this tomorrow used to be you could come here will as of today. The White House is a no no you are going to have have to go to Mexico to do it will break this down tomorrow as the fallout continues from the weekend right now sprint sprint has a great deal double the fun lease the latest iphone and get an iphone ten are on us. 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The Obama Order That Changed Everything (Ep 1261)

The Dan Bongino Show

1:01:21 hr | 8 months ago

The Obama Order That Changed Everything (Ep 1261)

"Get ready to hear the truth about America on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host. Dan Bongino so about that situation in Minneapolis. We have the tragic death of George Floyd and we have some really inexcusable unexplainable rioting. I can't figure out how this is in any way going to contribute to any kind of a solution to this problem. I've got some commentary on that. Some of you may have seen my comments on Fox News last night and this morning I waited a couple of days to get some of the facts in this but this is a very disturbing situation. I got that also. I talked about this yesterday. It's very important I've got some really explosive revelations about no bomb executive order. He left office which we believe address before. But now in light of everything's going on is really going to totally bake your bagels. Don't go anywhere loaded. Show welcome to Dan. Bongino show producer. Joe How are you today find man? I'm doing really really well. I'm glad to be here. 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Enter my special discount code. Checkout Dan Thirty. That's Dan three zero for an instant coupon thirty dollars off your order. Big Savings and for results in minutes genucel effects is also free plus free shipping get w rotor free. Now all orders today are upgraded the free pirate ship and go to genucel DOT COM G. E. N. DOT COM GENUCEL DOT COM. Use Promo Code. Dan Thirty Check Anorak. Joe Let's go little soft on the bell button. That's okay that's okay. We joke in functional. The time it's just I'm just kidding. I Love Joe. All right folks. This is going to be a hard conversation and we all got to get ready for it because what we saw in. Minneapolis with the police officer. Mr George Floyd if you missed the story We'LL RUN THE VIDEO HERE. In a moment we had to take some of the sound out because some of the background noise contains a lot of expletives and we try to keep family friendly which is kind of sad because the background noise in the background commentary critical understanding. What's going on a back story? This man. Mr Floyd was alleged to have committed some kind of a forgery. Police show up. There's there's some video of some mild resisting. It appears as he's getting out of the car emphasized mild. We don't have all the video of everything and I wanNA be careful there. There's also some evidence of going to the car and then the next thing we see is a police officer with his knee on the neck as Mr Floyd is prone down on the ground. I'd like to play this video again for the audio listeners. We had to cut some of the audio out. Some of you have seen the video but the man is prone on the ground face down Mr Floyd Mr Floyd happens to be black. The police officer happens to be white. Which of course always ads in our racially polarized society and of course people looking to aggravate not help. The situation always adds another element to this so as we can see in the video. There's a number of things here and I'm please have all the day's folks I know. It's an audio primarily but please check out my youtube as well youtube dot com slash Bongino. We can see then. Mr Floyd prone down on the ground disturbing video. I don't mean to keep showing it but it's important for a bit of analysis here as to what went on you notice in the video as we see here and I've said on on Fox News last night and this morning because it's important having experienced with with grappling Brazilian Jujitsu. It's not like I don't really trying to impress anybody but I've done this for twenty years. You'll notice that the man the police officer has again his knee on the neck of Mr Floyd but and it's his left knee as Mr Florida. Gators Pronoun you'll notice The police officers right foot in the video right foot is moving around. We could see it again. Thanks Paul for putting out of again. You could see you could see moving now. Why is that important? Because it indicates is you know if you're either a wrestler you've been involved in any kind of ground fighting mixed martial arts that his right foot is light. We know his right foot as light because again. It's moving around which says to me that he. The police officers weight is on the left foot and left knee. Which is on the neck of Mr Floyd on the ground now folks. This went on for over six minutes. I was a police officer. I was a federal agent. I was involved in many interactions. That did not go well. These aren't t j hooker stories to try and impress you with any bravado was job. I wasn't thinking of any of that. I was just doing my job when it happened but we were physically assaulted many times. I've told the story in the show. The Guy with the ironing board ironing board hits me with an ironing board buckles US IN HALF. We wind up wrestling on this couch and a domestic violence incident. Thank God my part air behind me. I totally get it. Being a police officer is a stressful job. One of the most stressful jobs. But I'm sorry there's no excuse this there's no excuse for this folks you know. There are different use of force continuum in different police departments around the world. You can do this as a police officer when the subject does that. You can do this when you can do that. Let me tell you from the most candid perspective as a former blue uniform wearing NYPD officer myself. Nobody is referring to the use of force continuum on paper in the middle of the street when a fight breaks out. Nobody is going wait. Did the academy tell me if subject does a I can be but not see. That's not happening. When you're in the street you are referring to General Rules you've learned to experience number one and number two. You're trying to stay alive the problem. I have with this video and thank you for the innumerable emails. I've received from active and retired law enforcement officials who have to hearing my commentary on Fox last night this morning. Have back me up on this? The problem I have with this is there is no fight going on anymore. Ladies and gentlemen the General Rule I was always taught as a young twenty year old police officer one of the most dangerous areas of New York. East New York Brooklyn at the time was when the handcuffs around the subject and the resistance stops ladies and gentleman. That fight is over. That fight is over that fight that day at that time is over. I'm not saying it's not gonNA start again. I've seen people in handcuffs. Spit on officers. I've seen them Headbutt. People. I've seen them kick people but when those handcuffs are on and that fight stops it is over. We are professional law enforcement officers. Were not bouncers. I'm not knocking. I'm just suggesting we are professional. Law Enforcement Officers paid by the public with the and by the way paid and given blessed with the greatest responsibility anyone can have blessed with it with the proper discretion. You can change the world if you use that discretion right you can take someone's liberty and God forbid God forbid one day you have to take someone's life to save someone else's or your own. These are massive power but they require incredible discretion. Folks I cannot give you one logical reason why an prone doubt with multiple officers on the scene thrown out on the ground and handcuffed granted. He's big. He's in good shape. He is no longer at this. He's resisting at that point. It only appears he's moving because he's dying that's point number one. I don't want you to forget this when the cops are on and the resistance stops throw all the use of force continuum you've learned in the academy out the window that fight at that time is over. This man did not deserve to die like that. Second Point. Put everything aside for a moment. Everything has to be political these. I'm not doing that. I'm not getting into that. I'm not forget it. You WanNa do that. The leftist Kooks that. Listen to my show you go right at knock yourself out You know I don't care anyway. I'm not doing that. I'm not gonNA argue the racial politics of this because to me. It's a humanity issue whether the man was black white male female Asian Black Hispanic. This was a human being and I'm asking you for a moment. Put everything aside all of that stuff all the subtexts and other things people like to argue about and ask you from the perspective of just to humanity issue if that was your kid your son your daughter six minutes with the neon on her his or her neck saying. I can't breathe everything hurts. How would you feel you know it's important here that we as commentators who have been blessed by God and by by many of your by many of you out there who've chosen to come here for the show it's important we tell the truth? Some of the finest men and women. I've ever met some of my friends to this day. Matter of fact my best friend is a police officer. Met New York the academy some of the finest people. I Know Patriots people with grace and dignity who've lived their lives according to a code. Cops the men and women. I met the federal agents corrections officers fine men and women overwhelming but when we see something wrong it's our job to be responsible to our audience and call it out for what it is and ladies and gentlemen. This is wrong. If that was your child you'd be horrified. Make another point on this on this video. Ladies and gentlemen while the videotapes. That are gonNA come out of what happened before this any allegations of crime. Whatever Mr Floyd before are valuable? They're valuable for telling the story. I'm telling you they mean nothing when it comes to that use of force after the subject is cuffed and under control. Do you understand what I'm saying are invaluable for telling the story. We have to know what happened here. But you can show me all the videos all day of what Mr Floyd did before and that doesn't change the fact that we are professional law enforcement officers from whatever happened before when those costs are on and the resistance is done. That fight is over as they said this morning on Fox pocos police officers could have arrested Charles Manson. They could have arrested a serial killer who had just killed twenty or thirty people. I'm talking about the most horrible people on Earth. We are professional law enforcement officers. That's how the overwhelming majority of the people. I know overwhelming. Think about this even the worst person on earth when those handcuffs Iran and they stopped resisting. They will see our justice system. We don't send them to their maker. It's not the way to any of this works. We are a civilized society where the greatest constitutional republic in the history of mankind. And even the most atrocious disgusting Filthy Grotesque Human Beings who've done the most inimaginable things that other people in a just society still get handcuffs on still go to jail and still get the justice. Let me make another point on this again. Forgive me for bringing in my experience and I'm really not ground fighting and mix. I'm really not doing this to be some pseudo tough guy at all folks I promise you. It's not interested at all broken guy anyway. My arthritis most in the audience. Probably take me out to seconds. I can barely move and after warm up. I having said that having done this for twenty years or more my life and having experienced and control tactics while I was in the Secret Service Training Center. I was always volunteering over there. There are two additional reasons this video so horrifying to watch ladies and gentlemen when you have an individual like Mr Floyd on the ground. Pallone prone out meaning on his belly. You run a very high risk of what's called positional asphyxiation suffocating. Someone to death especially with their hands behind their back because their body pressure and weight alone is forced into the ground which prevents the lungs and the diaphragm from fully expanding. Go lay down on the ground. If you're healthy for you'll see it's hit difficult to breathe now. Put Your hands behind you so you can't move them and you can't use your hands to brace out and create space with the floor allowing your lungs to expand now eight on that by having someone's body weight on top of you now eight on that by having someone's body weight concentrated on top of you on their left me on the most sensitive spot of your upper torso your neck where the karate artery lies yes the carotid artery that is one of the main blood vessels to the brain. I'm stunned. This man lives six minutes. That's not an exaggeration. One final point a move on ladies and Gentlemen Neuron the ground one of the reasons smaller men and most of the original creators of the entire Brazilian Jujitsu. Ground fighting system the GRACIE's and others one of the reasons they enjoyed fighting on the ground rather than standing up is because the ground is the great equalizer but why that doesn't seem to make sense. Most people would avoid going to the ground. Especially if there's a bigger person no that's not the way this works. The ground is the great equalizer because it restricts movement when you're standing up on the balls of your toes you can move around. You can move in multiple develop down sideways. You can't do that on the ground. A dimension of your movement down is restricted because the grounds there it balances everything out the great equalizer but the ground restricted movement. For Mr Floyd to when he couldn't breathe couldn't move anywhere because the grounds in the way folks I wouldn't dare stigmatize my brothers and sisters in the law enforcement community the finest people I've ever met. I say that without without any hesitation. But Gosh we've got to do better than this. This has been really rough couple months for law enforcement. We're on the front lines out there. I know it's a job and I know it's tough but don't diminish it all what you do. You are the frontlines of freedom in this country. There's no question about that. We have a civil society because of you. But Gosh we gotta do better than this and we have to call out wrong when we see it and I'm sorry but this is wrong. This is deeply disturbing video to watch. And if it wasn't for all the expletives in the background I would play for you the audio the audio is of people begging them to get off this guy's neck and I can't understand for the life of me while the people standing around the officers I'm talking about didn't say away it's over. Just sit him up. I'm sorry but one last commentary on the People Writing. What what the hell are you doing? A Guy just died. How unclear how you think this is helping the situation by setting fire to an autozone store crashing up a Wendy's and looting a target. You really disgusting human garbage. You think this is helping the Floyd family. The police department fix this. The federal government tried to get to the bottom of what happened here and get justice. You think this is helping attacking innocent business owners business and running through the stores stealing things. Gusting should be ashamed of yourselves. Ashamed of yourselves. People we're going to this corona virus crisis. He's businesses a barely open. I got A. Let's go raid the store and steal everything scuffling all right. Sorry it was heavy segment. I waited a couple of days. I wanted to get some of the video beforehand that I wanted to give you an informed perspective and it was a little emotional for me. I'm sorry because I have a big emotional attachment to our law enforcement brothers and sisters but this ladies and gentlemen was on all right. I want to move on because I t's story yesterday and it's an important one. I'm don't worry won't be all macabre today. I do have some some other stuff a little lighter especially when it comes to Joe Biden later but I want to get through the story about Barack Obama and this executive order which hat tip to seven. Nine magically escaped scrutiny. But he's just. I really wanted to get it on Fox this morning but the story about the police officer was so emotionally engrossing stuck with the topic forever. Let me get to my second sponsor I can use. I target target the target pro system. Is he finds system out there. That's I the letter I by the way I target pro dot com use Promo Code. Dan You get ten percent off. It's the best system out there for increasing with firearm hands. 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I'll ask this question because you can avoid certian but you can't avoid a question even the liberals watching the last days of the Obama Administration. Who was protecting who did Susan? Rice sent herself that infamous January Twentieth. Obama told us to do everything by the bulk email to herself to protect Obama or on January twelfth. Did Obama issue an executive order to protect Susan Rice and everyone else involved in the illicit abuse of intelligence to spy on political opponents? How this story is escaped mainstream media? Scrutiny again is puzzling because he evidence is right in front of you. Keep this in your head. Was it Obama on his way out the door which is a couple of days left in office. Did he issue a last minute? Executive order to provide some blanket cover for all of the people that abuse their access to intelligence to spy. And everyone. What do I mean I wanNA show you this? I and I bring this up by the way in light of the. Why am I bringing this up now because I got wind yesterday that Attorney General Bar has appointed a new United States attorney? John Bash to look into the the unmasking scandal itself in other words. The Obama Administration seeking the names of people. In basically wiretaps unmasking was unmasked. The names and let us see who what they were spying on people. It's a simple as that bar is not doing that. And assigning a separate United States attorney. Because he's wasting his time. He's not doing that. He has here and I think it's huge and I think Obama. Telegraph that on the way out the door. Let's go first the unmasking number the number three of the unmasking request. This was just released by former acting director of national intelligence. The excellent Rick Grenell. Who unleashed a three page list? This is important. This is page three. Have up on the screen now again. Youtube dot com slash Bongino. If you WANNA watch the video this is page. Three of the people who had unmasked. Mike Flynn from late December up until January twelfth. And I want you to look page three here because we have. I didn't include the other two pages. Just take my word for it. There are no follow me. This is going to be important in relationship to this executive order there are no unmasking requests released by Grinnell involving. Mike Flynn after January twelfth. And as you can see here on page three who was the last person to issue an unmasking request Vice President United States Joseph Biden on January. Twelve of twenty seventeen just a week before. Barack OBAMA'S GETTING READY TO LEAVE OFFICE. There are no more unmasking requests after the twelfth on Flynn. They still had a week. They still had a week to spy on. Flynn why stop. Why Stop on January twelve? Maybe they didn't have to unmask flint anymore. Oh you mean they'd have. That's so biden last one so I'm guessing all this unmasking is going on now. They're figuring out they've only got a few weeks left until trump takes office and the trump is going to figure all this out because he's going to have access to what they already know. Mike Flynn knows about the spying operation. And the dossier because the Brits as I've told you repeatedly already notified Mike. Flynn that steel is not to be trusted. Flynn already trump's. Incoming National Security Advisor has a multitude of questions about exactly why the FBI is spying on trump but suspiciously all of those masking quest triumph after January twelve. Let's go to this article. The covers this Barack Obama executive order twelve three three three conveniently issued. You're never going to believe this on January twelfth. Twenty seventeen my gosh. Notice how the media phrases to job very important Obama administration releases long-awaited in other words. This just didn't happen now. This is long. We've been doing this for a long time waking up administration releases long-awaited new executive order twelve three three three rules on sharing Ross signals. Intelligence information within the Jim Clapper signed the rules on December. Fifteen and Loretta Lynch sign them January fascinating. The hell does that do Joe Executive Order twelve three three three Obama's getting ready to leave office. You think you'd be taken pictures with everybody A. It's been a fun run. You know obamacare destroying the economy all that great stuff we did. It was terrific. You think you'd be doing that. Little give a little cake like they walk in. Thank you Mr President. Your destruction of the economy was fantastic. Everybody blow out the candlelight. Not doing that. Obama for some bizarre reason. Big Civil Libertarian Obama issues an executive order on January twelve stating that Ross signals intelligence can be shared widely disseminated within the entire intelligence fascinating. Maybe Kinda sort of explains why after January twelfth. They didn't need any longer to mass general. Flynn aren't just signed this executive order we can just check it out now. The IT gets better. I you just got layer. You were just cracking. The PATINA of Hokey do we have to January twelfth. This open season valid may say. Well what exactly does Executive Order Twelve? Three three three do because that seems awfully disturbing. Big Civil Libertarian Obama. Aclu you supported. Obama is promoting the wide dissemination of raw intelligence information. Well let's go to this article the Atlantic. This is pretty. Yeah this is a pretty good one by the way I have this up at the show notes today please. Bongino DOT com slash newsletter. That's how you subscribe to the show notes. A newsletter is shown. Read this article. I'm humbly begging you. But as a Karen Waddell or January thirteenth twenty seventeen the day afterwards the Atlantic. Why is Obama expanding surveillance powers right before he leaves office? It could prevent trump from extending them even more so hilarious. You notice how these media people there to narratives you. We're GONNA be like this just didn't happen recently. We've been working on this for a long time. Why why would they say that? And we'll get to that and secondly would just doing this to stop trump you. You're doing what you're expanding the massive government surveillance day because you're afraid trump may use those expanded powers to does that make any sense. He's a tyrant you'd think. He's giving him expanded surveillance. Powers if you're pulling your hair out like that doesn't make any sense. It's not supposed to this. Is the media fabricating a narrative because they wanted to distract you from the fact that Obama signed an executive order? That did this look at the Atlantic peace. And it'll explain everything about Mike. Flynn it says quote. The civil liberties concerned often surrounds the use of incidentally collected information under the new rule. The Obama executive order the FBI could not obtain access to research run information for ordinary criminals in ordinary criminal investigation against a US person okay however is always however however if the FBI incidentally seized evidence of a crime they are allowed to use that information so that tends to be where the tension is people are concerned with the potential impacts that this change could have on us persons. Oh Oh you get it now. There's the Mike. Flynn was unmasked but we just collected his information. Incidentally Make Sense. Yip of you missed this. You MISSED UBISOFT. A big one. Wow don't worry I'll explain it again. So now right. He's he's leaving office he must be getting to the fact that listen. We're in a lot of trouble. Flynn knows we've been spying on him. Trump is gonNA figure out. We've been spying on Flynn for the whole time. We've we're now getting ready to initiate a criminal investigation of general. Flynn remember just twelve days after Obama signs disorder the FBI shows up at the White House interview. My Flint in a criminal investigation he's later charged with criminally the C. I. Investigation was already closed. The only reason wasn't closed because of his administrative are the counterintelligence investigation on flint that he was a Russian aging was already closed on January fourth. The only reason it wasn't administratively close. It's because the FBI agents doing were idiots by their own admission. We failed to screw. We failed to close it because of our own stupidity is basically what text each other because there are administrative idiots. That's the only reason that case is still open. They gotTA start a criminal probe against Mike Flynn but they don't have anything. Mike Flynn is broken. No law they've got nothing so all of a sudden the Obama Administration. I can already see it there in the Oval Office. They say listen boss as per your instructions remember. Mccabe says the presidential daily brief staff demanded that they go and find information on. Flynn about the Russian call. The Russian Call January December twenty nine of two thousand sixteen so before this two thousand Seventeen Obama executive order. Someone says to well Bama listen. We got this call with Kislyak with Flynn. And we don't really have a lot except this. Dopey Logan acting. But we're going to have to get some kind of cover story how we got this. I got it feed to the dopes in the media because they won't ask any questions you know they're not real journalist feed to them in the media that we just incidentally in other words like really collected. Mike Flynn's phone call and wiretap because we were listening to the Russians and they spoke to flint. And I'll write an executive order that says information. That's incidentally or accidentally collected that that. Input that can you put up in the Atlantic against that dad can be used a criminal? Probe we've got it. We've got a reason to investigate. Flynn look previous again. The Atlantic however if the FBI incidentally seized evidence of a crime they are allowed to use that information conveniently signed as an executive order on January twelfth of two thousand seventeen just twelve days before they initiate this Criminal Interview Against Mike Flynn at the White House. Now do you understand. I know it's a little complicated. But it's critical. You get this now. Do you understand why the media and the Obama Administration there like Venom Eddie. Brock symbiosis they can't exist without each other. The media and the Obama Administration worked to advance the narrative for two years up until Rick. Grenell released that unmasking list I showed. They persisted in this narrative for two years. That don't worry Mike. Flynn was just accidentally wiretap because we were listening to the Russians. It was all incidental to that. I'm using the words interchangeably. I know they don't mean same thing. Incidentally and accidentally I get it. I'm trying to express to you what the media wanted you to believe. This was all incidental. It wasn't incidental. Beat WHY BECAUSE. Mike Flynn was not unmasked in his call with the Russians. As I've told you for the past two weeks call was deliberately targeted. Mike Flynn the Obama. Presidential Daily briefing staff told Andrew McCabe. Go Get dad call. It was not unmasked. Ever it was targeted the unmasking narrative the media the Obama Administration wants you to believe is being put out there because they want you to believe all of this was an accident and there was no motive and it wasn't political and it wasn't militias. That is a false story. Flynn was hunted and targeted specifically by the Obama Administration and this executive order issued on January twelfth of twenty seventeen is there to provide cover for everyone who was involved to say. Hey Hey listen if we just found this stuff incidentally and it results in a criminal probe. Don't worry you guys are all covered. I've got this executive order unbelievable. How the media's how is nobody asked about this executive order yet right before he leaves office? This is what he's doing by the way if we collect some information by accident the FBI can run with a criminal vesey. What you didn't think you eight years in office you just talked about this eight days before. You're leaving office. You just figured this out and notice it was signed earlier in December of two thousand sixteen by Komi. Excuse me by clapper and Loretta Lynch in early January. Which says to me they were probably thinking about this after they lost the election for November on. And we're trying to figure out a way to cover up their unmasking of other flip. Flynn was unmasked in other calls. Just not the December twenty ninth call. Let me be clear on that. They were of China. Find a way to cover their mouth seasons while still trying to prosecute Flynn because Flynn knew what they were doing. They had them arrested and locked up. And this executive order was the perfect air cover phenomenal that this is not gotten out there absolutely phenomenal for all the wrong reasons. Speaking of witch so now Obama provides the executive order to advance criminal case on Mike. Flynn now I just said. They had no criminal activity on my foot. They made it up folks. They made it up the criminal charge. We're GONNA use against Mike. Flynn now that they had this executive order and they're getting ready to interview him. Twelve days later is going to be the Logan Act. Private citizens can't get involved in the space of the United States. Ladies and gentlemen. This is the most ridiculous legal absurdity in the history of the United States. No one in the history of the country has ever been successfully prosecuted for the Logan Act. Because it's not real yet exists on the books. It is an unconstitutional abomination. No serious lawyer. Prosecutor investigator would ever consider bring into a courtroom at risk of being laughed out. And this Bart John Kerry would be in jail for involving himself with the Iranians and the Syrians. If the Logan Act was real. It's a fraud. That's they had to make something up to initiate a criminal investigation. Flynn here's where this Rosenstein story hat tip Elizabeth Elizabeth Vaughan at Red State. This is a great article again up in the show. Please read it. She found something we did in our show. Joe a while ago that candidly. Even I'd forgotten about red state up at the show. It's dot com slash newsletter. The stunning reason why Rod Rosenstein will be the first witness before the Senate committee bear with this bears into the prior story. Obama provides the executive order to investigate his political nemesis and Mike Flynn but now the FBI needs a reason on paper because they don't have anything so they have to invent this farce called the Logan Act. How does Rod Rosenstein play into this? Rosenstein is the deputy attorney general and the acting attorney general when sessions recused himself later throughout this whole saga actually signs one of the warrants to spy on the trump team. But this is where this gets really bizarre. Rosenstein also is the one who appoints. Bob Muller on May tenth in May of two thousand seventeen in May of two thousand seventeen. He appoints muller to investigate this farce this total joke of a cases collusion case. That Rosenstein already knows is a joke and doesn't exist from the red state piece. I discussed this on my show. I think it's eleven ninety one she likes to the show Elizabeth one in the piece from the red state piece. This is important remember. It's May of two thousand. Seventeen Rosenstein appoints muller to go investigate the trump team for collusion with Russia and to investigate Flynn and others yet quote from the red stay piece. This is from the F. B. I.'s own documentation folks during this May tenth briefing with the FBI the FBI team confirmed for rose signed. The president was not a suspect. This was also Rosenstein impression from his initial April briefing. He received from director. Komi Rosenstein elaborated that based on his May ten briefing. There appear to be no evidence that the president was involved. Personally what the hell so just to be clear on all this. They're investigating not only in a counterintelligence fashion fake links between the president and the Russians like Rosenstein the FBI. No exact. Don't exist right. Darren narrowed FBI paperwork. Rosenstein knows the trump team. This is this is not a suspect. There's no evidence of this. Their words not mine. The FBI's already interviewed steel source in January of twenty seventeen before this may meeting was already told him steals full of crap this dossier whole cases fake and yet Rosenstein. This hack of point smaller anyway to investigate a known fraud. Why does this matter? How does this relate to the executive order and this fake criminal case based on a fake charge the Logan acting as Flynn because ladies and gentlemen after Rosenstein Points Muller Muller goes back to Rosenstein Again? He points to investigate a fake crime doesn't exist because they wanted just harass the trump presidency. Now Rosenstein. Baller me goes back to Rosenstein and says hey I need more power and more power. Why well my guess is Muller asked for more power from Rosen and an increased scope because he's been investigating trump for a long time? Now may it's August. It's three months when he asked this increased power and he doesn't have anything on trump and Rosenstein doesn't have anything on trump the FBI doesn't have anything on trump so they've got to again keep this fabricated criminals as scandal going. How do we know that look at this? Here's a photo of the scope. Memo Rod Rosenstein expands power. And he says you can investigate allegations that Mike. Flynn committed a crime or crimes by engaging conversations with Russian government officials during the period of the trump transition. What traits trails for you? Go investigate the Logan. This is believable. Now you know why Rosenstein going to be the first witness up there in the hearing so just to be clear they spy on Flynn. They Unmask Flynn the December twenty ninth call. They don't have to unmask. Blinks Obama. Orders Flynn's called targeted their wiretap. That call go. Get me information on it. Dave an interview Flynn at the White House about that call. They think he tells the truth but they accused him of lying. The Muller team prosecuted for lying and the Muller Team Needs Reason. Investigate Mike Flynn so they go back. And they use this fake Logan criminal charge that no one's ever been prosecuted with ever and Rosenstein signs onto this farce and that by the way the Obama Administration the executive order right out the door says and by the way. If you happen to capture anything on wiretaps incidentally about a crime the log it act then you can probably investigate. Mike Flynn and all these idiots in the media. Play along with it unreal on believable. What happened here on Believable let me get to my final sponsor. I've got a couple of videos for your Joe Biden. The Biden follies. It's campaign has turned into a total joke at an update on the tech tyrant as well. Don't go anywhere right. Finally today's show brought to our friends been a lot of been here. They like talking to our audience. 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You're entitled to hear that but that's not why I'm there I am at Dbongino. Follow me I think I have over one hundred thousand followers now so love that all right the Biden Joe on a light we need it with all the heavy news folks. I'm not kidding. Audi Joe is appalling either I regardless of your feelings about President trump obviously a supporter. I'm Joe I'm trying to be delicate. Ladies demand is is not fit for the forget the presidency folks. He's not fit to work in the White House mess. Forget about the President United States guys. Ladies demand is not well. I'm really sorry again. I'm not here to tell you who to vote for your big boys and big girls and men and women and you get it. Your Dad's MOMS grandmothers. You've lived experienced long. Lives you do what you want. I'm voting for president trump. That's not a mystery. I don't vote for Democrats. I'm sorry I'm like I say why. The Republicans may not be the solution to all your problems. The causing problems most certainly the Democrats. But I'm really sorry. This man is it's over. Joe Biden is not fit for this it is. I don't even he. He doesn't even seem to speak coherent English anymore. Let me play for you to videos making my point. One the second a little more humorous but not. I'd argue but this first one. Here's Joe by making an analogy. I don't even get this and I don't even know what he's saying when I was a kid. It's like the kid who brought the ball ten. Mata play the ball game or hit the bat and a ball. If you're like what does that mean I don't know maybe you'll have better luck translating this. This is Joe Biden with an analogy. That doesn't make sense to anybody. Anywhere anywhere in the Cosmos. This is him on. Cnn better off wearing a mask. Projects strength or weakness. Leadership presents projects. His leadership presence are supposed to lead not engage in folly and be falsely masculine reminds me the guys that I grew up with playing ball. They walk around with ball in their hand but they didn't like the hit very much. What the hell does that mean the lady by the way CNN interview we? I could've played is like yeah right so you start to look lady. The interest of time we got to cut that out you can watch. She's like what she doesn't even know how to follow up because she's like he's trying to make an analogy about masks and masculine. Which Number One I? That doesn't even make any sense what. You're not masculine. If you don't wear a mask I don't even get that but then to make an analogy about masculinity your other words what I mean about. Masculinity reminds me kids walk around with a ball and don't want to hear what the how does it has to do with masculinity? What are you even talking about? Bro? I don't forget her name. It's I. I Never Watch channel. I used to work over there not paid but I'd be over there every night. Doing commentary years ago. She's like why are you even mean dude? I mean he used a simple right. You're it's like those guys who walk around talking about fights all the time and never actually gotten a fight. All right. She'd be like winning Aga- they are skies. They walk around. We're ball really. WanNa head a right dude. Whatever this is like a nobody understands with this guy's talking about ever. Okay this one. You have to listen close on this. You may have heard last night some of you. Some of you may be hearing for the first time. So this is the Biden podcast which ironically. I'm not even running for president and our podcast smokes Joe Biden's podcast who was the de facto Democrat nominee. That's amazing thanks to you by the way we have grown so much. It's ridiculous power this show. You have no idea you have given us so much point. Listen Close Paul. If we need to play this twice can we all right? Let me play it once. I want you to listen for a sound effect in the background. About halfway through its short about twenty seconds or so that I'm GonNa play it again and I'll tell you what a lot of people think this is. It's just play played for or stop work on roads and bridges. So what does the human cost? Okay thanks they play. I WANNA play. Now it's about listen about a second. This is Biden. Who appears to how say this? Show have an accident in his. Draw something about a second to listen closely again. He's interviewing the dreadful governor Pennsylvania tyrant. Tom Wolfe lockdown. Tom Who trying to bankrupt this whole state and listen about a second. Listen to the sound effect emanating from Biden. And IF YOU'RE WATCHING WATCH TOM. Wolves face he does the same face as the CNN. Lady interviewing when Biden makes the stupid ball out to faces like this her. What the Hell was that? Listen to this again or stop work on roads and bridges. So what does the human cost? Oh so Paula. Last night. We had this last minute. That being on Hannity last night appeared quick. I wasn't supposed to be on last night at Fox and the Minneapolis Bro. And I'm sitting there with this laser thing on my shoulder. I put the laser. Oh my shoulder. To fix my driver's I love the laser at work and there are texted me like you come on now so it was like nine five at a run upstairs but I come back a mole emmer sitting down and we're watching this on. Ingram this video and policies way that just happen. I use it on the show tomorrow and she says to me you. Why is this stuff always funny? I don't know I don't know there's something genetic in the Human Gene Code. That emanations from the body are hilarious they are. I don't know why it's funny but it sounds to me like there may have been clean up on our four after that one because that even Tom Wolfe. The again lockdown Tom. You Watch the footer. He's like he's someone we need to really take a break for that. Whatever that was that didn't seem self contained. That seemed like one of those. I I can't I can't because it really I'll lose control because it's okay. You can judge for Yourself. Turn the volume up. Listen to that again that folks. I'm sorry his running mate should now be swallow. Remember swallow that interview that member that sound effect right in the middle of it. You remember that one the emanating from the real slow which is probably the most profound thing he ever said. Swallow all right moving on there if you're and Bongino DOT com today. Please read this article. If not where it's in the show notes but Matt Palumbo who also runs Bongino report DOT COM DR Conservative alternative. The drudge report has a great article up today about the Pew Research Center. Hilariously trying to spin the dem failures on fighting corona. This is one of the you're going to be like this can't possibly be real. So the short version of this is the Pew Research Center. Put out a graph in a tweet which I'll put up in a second and Pew I trying to take a shot at Republicans tries to say in this graph like look. Republicans are doing a bad job. Because here's the graph. Now let me just read what they say. Because if you're looking at the graph I'll explain it to you you're going to be. That's what you took from this Pew Research Center Cova Desk declined and Democratic Congressional districts since mid April but remained relatively steady in districts control control by Republicans so you're fewest trying fellow. Republicans that are Worse Job Ladies and Gentlemen. Look at this graph. If you're listening let me just explain to you the grab the Democrat line. Is the Blue Line. The Blue Line is almost twice. What the red line is come back to me for. How did you read this graph and get that? The Republicans are worse job. I did the Democrat folks again for those listening. Imagine my left hand low and my right hand high because that's the Democrat line and this is the Republican Line so the is Matt explains in the piece by the way. So you're telling me the Republican congressional districts the covid Nineteen Infections. Were so low. And they've stayed flat for so long that they're so far below the Democrat. Line that even though the Democrats are down fifty percent infections they're still at twice the Republican districts and your takeaway there is the Republicans the worst job quote Matt's piece in the show knows. Indeed cases are flat Republican district so flat that Democrat district will still need to see another fifty percent decline in newly reported cases to be on par with the Republican districts. Needless to say. Pews takeaway was widely ridiculed. This is insanity Joe. You're not crazy you saw that graph. Yeah folks if I give you an analogy that actually makes sense Paul. Put up again if you're looking at a skyscraper on like floor. Seventy two is like infections in Democrat congressional districts and on floor. Thirty five is infections from Republican districts and Somehow Pew took from that that the Republicans have done a worst job. You find a new Pew Ironic after that listening. Please find a new line of work. My Gosh how did you interpret that data that way talk about torturing statistics more on the Wuhan Virus Fox News piece in the show? Notes worth your time. This is disgraceful. What's going on in New York? Remember that executive order we show you not executive order precision that that New York State Health Department orders with Andrew. Cuomo is. He's on the order. That order basically demanding people get sent to nursing homes who had covid nineteen varsity here. It is right here. You can't prevent nursing homes Andrew Cuomo said and his department of L. from taking covert covert nineteen infected people which is an unbelievable stupidity. Let's send into the most vulnerable population infected people well Fox News unbelievably disorders magically disappeared from the website. Fox News Dot Com New York. Health website. Leads Komo's order linked to nursing home facilities. This is really unbelievable. You know their Golden Calf Andrew. Cuomo God forbid he gets any legitimate. Where's the fact? Check on this at twitter by the way tech tyrant goons over there. You're going to fact check CUOMO. Would we need to fact? Check him about well. Here's a video Cuomo who just in the order. You saw the order folks which is now been deleted. It's mysteriously disappeared to the land of the left Sox. Nobody can find the order anymore. We have it still. Don't worry we'll make sure people see it. After demanding infected patients get sent into the most vulnerable populations in nursing homes people who died after that nursing homes due to this decision. Cuomo unbelievably despite the fact we have. The order is now blaming nursing homes. Check this out the nursing home the obligations on the nursing home to say I can't take a covert positive person. I'm too crowded I'm too busy. I don't have enough p. Whatever the answer is doesn't matter is if they say I can't take the person they can't take the person. So that's that's how it works. Holy Moses. What a disgraceful liar. This guy is a disgrace and embarrassment to humanity. He issues an order demanding nursing homes takeover nineteen patients in order that subsequently kills thousands of people he then deletes the order on his website on the Health New York health website. Delete thinking we won't find again as not hurting like these archive web archive play dumb. And then he turned around and blame the nursing home. Thank you guys shouldn't have accepted. These people orders you to accept. This is even worse. Daily caller today had to Peterson tournament. This BE UP GENE-O report to New York governor. You call us this cook numbers to defend his record on the nursing homes look at what after his order was exposed and the body count nursing homes grew to incredible credibly tragic numbers then they tried to cook books. Check this out sometime. Between April Twenty eight and May Third. Cuomo quietly changed. Its criteria for counting corona related nursing desk nursing home deaths to omit the deaths of nursing home residents who died outside the physical nursing home. The daily caller found out in the show notes too so now cuomo realized he got caught demanding. You bring infected people into the most vulnerable population which killed many of them deletes. The order blames it on the Nursing. Home and cook the books and says hey if some of these people in the nursing home where then taken to an er to save their lives. Don't blame it on the Nursing Home. Cooked. Let's cookbooks and get those numbers out of their keep telling us how wonderful Cuomo is. He should pay the mice president. 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The game with cramps came back for a while back and forth fourth quarter and then the game would come down to a justin tucker field goal to finish shape now before we saw a little bit of absolutely everything on the ground in the air. Things that upset knicks betting line. We had it all in the end. It would be the ravens coming out on top with the wind. Here's john harbaugh. After the game with all the things that went on in this game the time you're talking about it that right there i mean if you're on a movie about this the people wouldn't believe it could never happen. Realities is stranger than fiction or whatever that saying is that's kind of what it is here. I mean it's just it's crazy all right well nick. Baker showed up last night. We wondered if he could on the big stage. But lamar was outstanding. He came off. The cove list. Came back out of the locker room in the fourth. Quarter to do this and get this team back in it and get them the win. Who was more impressive last night baker. Mayfield or lamar jackson. Yeah i hate to start the show with the disagreement. But i did not think lamar was outstanding. I i thought that lamar showed again that. He is the most dynamic running quarterback the league has ever seen. But if you went into this football game with serious concerns about the ravens ability to pass the football the sixty one yards. He had up until there was a minute left in the upper three minutes left in the football game when he came back on. The field didn't exactly allay those concerns and for baltimore. Their defense i thought played the worst game. I've seen at play in three years. Now maybe part of the reason. The deepens played so poorly. What's because baker mayfield was cooking and can we please. Finally america put some respect on the man's name. I want to see him. Have a signature. Win has the best first-half any players had in the nfl all season. I'm sorry go ahead please. No i was just waiting for the signature. Gonna go ahead you go you go. Mike was no. I didn't know my microphone was on. Go good okay. So that was last week when he had the best first-half than e players had in the legal ear and then it was. Well i wanna see him in the fourth quarter down to scores. Can we show what baker mayfield did. Because he did make one big mistake. He threw a pick. So how did baker respond after throwing matt pick. Do we have that graphic. Because i think he played perfectly. I think he had three touchdowns to throwing one rushing including a forty seven in drive with less than two minutes remaining to tie the football game then. Justin tucker did justin tucker things in the ravens win but last night. The quarterback on the field without a shadow of a doubt was baker mayfield. Now it's team did not win. But when they were winning thirteen to ten because the deepens we said those wins they won. But he didn't play great. He was outstanding last night. Against the team that nyah lead them in week one and it shows massive growth for him and for the team so to me clearly. Baker was the more impressive quarterback last night totally disagree with unique lamar jackson. Lamar jackson does like this was reminiscent of the two thousand and nineteen lamar jackson. This is the reigning. Mvp we were waiting for him. The flash like this. We were waiting for game where he show his brilliant in his genius on the field. We know why. Lamar jackson isn't throwing the ball and why he's not putting up huge numbers. I've been talking about it all year. That's gregg roman. Now lamar jackson. He missed too big throws he missed one andrew and he missed another to another wide receiver. Too big plays than that. Lamar jackson played the game that we were accustomed to seeing two thousand nineteen. This is what we what we've what we've seen lamar do weakened and week out. It's like watching friday night football. You go to a high school game and there's always one or two players that stand out to you. There's no names on the jerseys. it's like man. Who is this kid. If i'm a scout out there last night skeleton these guys i'm like man baker mayfield ball. Lamar jackson ball. Who are these kids now. Do you really wanna talk about it though. Nick like you just do you try to twist the stats and you try to change the angle. A little bit. But that pick is significant. We seem baker. Mayfield go for over three hundred yards. And we've seen him flash before but ball security his job security yours and mine. We've been talking about. That's the reason why he lost the game so if you wanna crowned him as some type of came back to play well in the loss nate laws because they had the biggest indicator in winning and losing the national football league is turning the ball over and he turned the ball over. He saw that linebacker hit on third row and he stared down and he threw the ball. Anyway that's what baker mayfield does down the reason why they lost. And that's the reason why. I continue to stay table and say look baker mayfield. Not the face of the franchise for the next ten fifteen years until fix that problem. Has he played well. Has he eliminated distractions off the one hundred percent. But he can't do this in the biggest moments in ball right and he's not going to be a guy who throws zero interceptions this season because that players never he did go one hundred and eighty seven pass attempts without an interception but that was a really bad one. But that's the reason they lost ignores what happened in the fourth quarter. That football game after they. Hey they took the yes brandon. I am aware they lost the game. I promise i watched but after that play. They took the lead after that play when the ravens then went down and scored. He drove them down to tidy. Tie the game in a game where. His team scored forty two points. Twenty one in the fourth quarter including a go ahead fourth quarter drive and a gametime fourth quarter drive with one minute remaining to say a third quarter interception is the reason they lost the game and to say lamar who that was not. Mvp lamar mvp. Lamar athlete any athlete. Watching that game. Last night would say. This is one of the best athletes i've ever seen. We know more. And that's the same story line. We know we know he's not gonna throw for three hundred yards. And i'm telling you the reason. The reason why is because of there's no continuity in their offense. Lamar jackson is right down brandon. Last year. They had the same offense and when he won. Mvp you're ready wasn't thrown for three hundred. But he was thrown for over two hundred a game and so last night when he's got eighty yards passing through three and a half quarters and finishes with one sixty that was not the way he won the mvp. He's not going to be three hundred game but he wasn't one sixty game either. Let me ask you a question. let me ask you a question are so you want to highlight baker mayfield. Baker was great. They lost the game. The last the last. I i remember. It's about winning and losing like do we really wanna crown these guys if we do. It's about local. He played well. Then tell me who gets the game ball. Who own cleveland browns. And the cleveland. Browns gets the game ball. Nobody gets the game ball because they lost and all wild wild. Maybe i'm living in a house of mirrors but correct me if i'm wrong wild. When the browns were on a four game winning streak playing windstorms and rainstorms and baker was throwing for one hundred ten yards was the conversation on. This show doesn't matter. They won baker. Gets the game ball doesn't matter or was it. We need to do see him do more. And so like maybe i'm crazy. Maybe it's just it's just been if the browns win. Baker played great. If they lose he played terribly. That's not quite how i remember it. But but you be the newbie. Let me you know. No no let me remind you. Sorry whilst but let me remind you nick. Wh what's the story. The story is wins baker. Mayfield going to throw for over three hundred yards. When is baker. Mayfield going to be the reason why they win. And not the run gown. Kevin landscape where they lost last night. Nick that they they lost last night. Yes. he's done it twice. He's done it twice in the season. Nick he's done it twice in the season. Well the retailers daddy is running the ball and playing defense. Yeah cincinnati window on on a bit cincinnati being on the jacksonville jaguars. So we want to see him. This is again. The ball baltimore ravens. So i'm reminding you what would a couple of weeks ago again he lost. Do a win. you lost. Nobody's going to remember this next year. Nobody's gonna remember them playing lights out against the baltimore ravens because he lost the game. We have hours upon hours to continue to discuss and we will. I promise you wild sketchy the year but we got to switch gears to talk about the mvp award. Can aaron rodgers still steal it away from patrick mahomes justice. Dress nick out a little bit more this morning. That's next this is first things first. We're birthing listeners. Issue boy shea. Sharp co host of f ones undisputed. I wanted to tell you about my new. Podcast club chez chez. We always do something before something. Each week i sat down with a guest for drinking conversation and his host. And proprietor clubs chez chez. I've welcome in esteem. Guests such as snoop dogg floyd mayweather lavar ball isaiah. Thomas just mentioned a few with. I'm talking to an athlete musician and actor or lifelong fan club. Shea is the place where people share inspiring and motivational stories about their journeys to prominence. The new episode drops every monday on apple podcasts. Spotify or wherever you get your podcast so scrappy club shade now and make sure you never miss a new episode now back the first things first. Let's talk some green bay packers now. It's great year for these guys. Matt leflore could be coach of the year. His team is now the nfc's topsy. Aaron rodgers could be in vp. It was nearly flawless on sunday. And the remaining schedule. Panthers titans bears while it's not terrifying with learn os. Just how well. His quarterback is playing right. Now take a listen to what he had to say. I think anytime you have just a group of players like we have especially our quarterback A guy of his caliber dot my mind is should be the front runner for the mvp. I mean he just does. It consists of every time we go out on field. It gives you a lot of confidence that you're gonna come out with. A victory. being said is still the favorite brandon. Homes is still the favourite of header rogers and the mvp but brandon. Is the door still open for rogers to come in and st oldest away from patrick mahomes. Is it open. it's wide open. It's fifty fifty at this point. Look let me speak. Nick rights language. Okay so look a couple of weeks ago our reveal this graph just to highlight a few things that i was trying to talk about in patrick mahomes i appreciate you responded to me last week. Look i have a job to do. I love you buddy. you're phenomenal. You can potentially go down as the greatest quarterback of all time but right now this is fifty fifty. So let's look at this graph the graph that idea. Let's take a look so if you look at this i grab. This is what i said. You know russell wilson. Russell wilson was lee in a way. And then nick. This is critical critical information. Russell wilson just start throwing pig out there. Pick after picking up the inter arizona game where he threw multiple pigs and one game out so now you had to take him from being in front of the jet ski to being on a two and if you know anything about being on the two it's really wild back there at any moment you can take off. So that was russell. Wilson patrick mahomes lee but now you have air rogers. That has not taken over to jetski because what what. What's russell wilson. Did he through multiple pigs. You can't lead in being in front of the jet ski if you throw three picks a one game and give up the longest second nfl history. Patrick mahomes we'll tell you that you can't do it. And then you have all dairy henry sitting right there while it's and i know you love. They were dare again reset it there. If he finishes with two thousand your e should be the mvp and then you have josh allen big ben just sitting out there seeing guys wait for me. This is house chris. Bearing wild take on this. Because i feel badly brandon and i yelled at each other in the first segment. Old buddy favor wraps gallion. Kevin wilde's didn't even get to give his take so i'm gonna pause in categorize. You go please. No you know why. You're pausing yours. Because i agree with you your propaganda your change propaganda that is infected. My son has now infected. Me i think is obviously the mvp. And i actually think it's unfair nick that he should even have a bigger lead. But i think he gets penalized because it changes so good because travis kelsey is might be offensive player of the year because eric enemy and andy reid our jeans because tyreek hill is the fastest player in the nfl. And doing backwards. I think it all hurts. Patrick mahomes but what brandon. You talked about the thirty yard sack. And the three interceptions we watch. I gave a guy. This guy is the best even though he's doing making mistakes they're still impressive. Mistakes like the thirty yard. Wow isn't president. I'm gonna argue that. The thirty yards actually actually helped his case is oh doing things. I've never seen him. Avoid that common. So nick. I appreciate you. Pass the ball here. But i'm gonna bassett right back to you. I think mahomes obviously the mvp. Nick so i m accident nick nick yeah go go ahead go ahead go ahead. 'cause i got lost with the graphic i just. I just did what you did. Right when russell wilson when he lost the mvp race right when he threw it three three weeks versus the zona cardinals. That's that's all i did. I laid that up for you. Patrick mahomes he just threw three. That's why have aaron rodgers now. Lena so i was really your take a couple of weeks ago no i get it and by the way i'm not even a strong as wilde's that mahomes is clearly the mvp right now with three weeks left. I think mahomes is the leader. I think brandon's skis wrong. I think mahomes is leader. But i think it is close because as people know because of my just lifelong commitment to take integrity and the fact that i really just used this television show as vehicle to audition various leagues to actually get votes. I so clearly deserve eyelash. Ear refused to lebron was the nba's mvp because the number said it had to be honest. So i take this very seriously. Even though it's a make believe vote that no one will give me so when you look at the numbers. Completion percentage yards per attempt and turnovers. They are dead. Even mahomes is killing him in yards and rogers is ahead substantially touchdowns and interceptions. Both teams are number one in their respective conferences. Granted the packers have three losses to the chiefs one. So why do i have mahomes ahead instead of it. Being a coin flip it is because of that same thing about the multiple turnovers but the important qualifier. Is this when russell. Wilson atas multiple turnover game. He wasn't to overcome it. The packers have three losses this year. Two of those losses. Aaron rodgers has turned the ball over multiple times to colty threw a pick and he fumbled in the tampa game. That game turned on his two mistakes. Mahomes has one bad game this year. And in that game he led the chiefs to a twenty point third quarter and a twenty point lead in route to a comeback victory so the multiple russell wilson had those turnovers back when he was still in the conversation against arizona but then they had won the game in overtime instead of him. Throwing the pick to lose the game in overtime. It wouldn't have hurt him as much right now. The deciding factor to me. Is this both rogers. In mahomes have had one game they would really really want back. The tampa game for rodgers. The miami game for mahomes mahomes was able to after having a horrific first quarter with toothpicks and a thirty yard sack. Still throw for nearly four hundred yards two touchdowns team to victory once rodgers through those two first quarter picks. He and his team folded. Would they score in that game. Ten points so to me. That's the distinguishing point. But mahomes has no nationally. Televised games left gina. Rodgers has carolina and then sunday night football against the titans a terrible past defense on national. Tv rodgers could still win it but despite the three picks hiding mahomes is the leader by a hair right now yeah and then they have chicago the packers after that so another chance him as well all right back to last night's game now lamar baker baker lamar worn fingle. Take your pick both played outstanding only one winter though. We got this game for you next first things. First holiday season means stocking up on some essentials like decorations and an ugly sweater with the bank of america. Cash rewards credit card. You can choose to earn three percent cashback on online shopping. 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Mvp ended up with three total touchdowns in about three hundred awesome plays brandon. Lamar jackson's performance last night was blank retro ravens. I mean we gotta go way back to last year. This is how he won the mvp. Nick doesn't think he played well. I think he played amazing. I thought he was a magician in the pocket elusive athletic. He was the best player on the field. We know why he's not throwing for three hundred yards. Do we want to continue to ignore that conversation that this office is just not built for god to throw the ball. No chemistry no continuity we can go back to colin kaepernick and gregg roman and san francisco. He came out and then what happened a year after that in the year after that his numbers started to decreased. That's the reason why that lamar jackson missed too. Big plays last night absolutely but this guy was the best player on the field last night. This is retro ravens going back to last year so i thought it was story and by that i mean this is you read you know. Great fables entails. You know what the story very rarely is. Your hero has nothing but success. In great things happen from beginning middle and end books over no how storybooks go struggles bad times moments apparel. And then when you think all lost and trace mcsorley is out there trying to run a two minute drill. Your hero comes out from the back and has his best moment yet. I e brandon's right. I didn't think lamar was very good for the first fifty seven minutes of this game but that play right there saved the game and then after baker drove back down the field. Lamar made two very good place to get justin tucker and field goal range so to me. It was a storybook finish for the reigning league. Mvp wilde's yeah. I went with captain solely like you can be happy with the final result in a little bit. Stressed out about how you got there. Look lamar levin completions marketers. Call five balls. This was a huge play. But he's lamar's scribble for twenty four yards until you find somebody so i know you're going to be like bringing like wild. That's what makes him so. Dynamic totally agree but like captains totally landed the plane in the hudson river. And everyone's like great job. And i think after the dust settles like was that really that grazed fields if we got some flaws in the system here i like lombardo catherine what love is. It's the pot solely slander baker. Mayfield guys threw for three hundred forty three yards and two touchdowns ran went into but he also had a costly pick in the third quarter with the browns trying to get back in the game brandon baker mayfield's performance last night was blank ascending. Nick may be todd which which angle on take right now. But he's ascending. That's the that's the truth. Look before the game leading up to the game. He handled the media. Welder was no bulletin board material. That's what we want to see out of baker mayfield. He's been doing all year. Been handling the media better in the game. He had his demeanor on. The sideline was amazing. He knew he was in the heavyweight heavyweight and he handled it like a champ and then after the game i loved his demeanor with immediate again. Like baker. Mayfield is ascending. But the reason why he hasn't arrived because he lost the game and he threw a pick that cost his team the game so he is ascending. I like what i'm saying. But he needs to continue to do it. Listen you guys thrown winning picks. He's now thrown one big in his last two hundred and five pass attempts. Obviously you can't win that way except for the fact every other quarterback in the league would love to do that because they've thrown more but my injuries is endorsed and i say endorsement because even brandon. Marshall begrudgingly is kind of endorsing him. But also endorsed because you know. I was checking out baker mayfield's list of endorsements. You know what's not on there any type of beverage so it's like. Hey who's gatorade. God is an endorser these days they used to have. Eli and peyton. Manning quarterback endorser. It's matt ryan matt ryan old and busted talking about guys. You don't wanna have throw throw picks matt ryan threw two picks in the final two minutes. Lose so i think. Baker mayfield could have a new endorsement coming up. And i know what you're gonna say. Time jinnah only likes. Jenna only likes athlete. Endorsements if like forest lamp in the lamp which e ali loved. when. I know you're gonna say that and i'm gonna say guys. You're being unfair. Nez not anti endorsement. She just has bits. Reallocate toured for baker. Mayfield puts you like so much. I think she might actually endorse bakers endorsement their endorsements with all his other interest too much sugar zero. Chances eli progenitor. yeah. I knew it. I also went commercial. Wanted to see a christmas commercial from baker. Because he was doing that thanksgiving turkey commercial after thanksgiving. I thought we had the christmas commercial ready. But here's the thing. Talk real thing. That was just a commercial. I think the browns should be super super happy. You took it their losses jenna. They lost scored six points. Loss to baltimore. Scored seven points loss to the steelers. This word six points loss to the raiders scored forty two points so i think the ascension of baker does get them another commercial job. Guys i have no issue with the commercials. They're actually funny except the thanksgiving one. That one didn't hit on peterson. Did you guys. Doug peterson finally came. Down named jalen hurts his starting quarterback for sunday's game in arizona. He said quote after going through the film. I'm going to continue with jalen this week somehow. Doug peterson needed to go through film to come to that conclusion. So brandon te. Doug peterson aiming hurts. The starter is blank. Yeah i'm gonna be quick here. This one is dumb with three. You look we knew. He was going to be a starter. He elevated his entire team. He gave you the spark that you ask for. I need a spark. I need a spark again. You a spark in the first thing aftermath after the game is. I don't know if we're going to go back to him. More wins please. This is dumb with three us nick. Yeah i'm going with a different perspective. And i mean that literally your perspective of seeing the game because if you watched this press conference. Doug peterson said after watching the game. Tape and this is something you hear from coaches all the time after a game i gotta go watch the game and now i'm going to be fair i've only ever watched one. Nfl game from the sidelines. And i don't quite remember vividly. Maybe you just from the sidelines are seeing something totally different than all of us are seeing watching on television. How you guys are on the field. What color is my team's jerseys. Did we score. Did we give up a safety. Who knows got to watch the film because folks that were on the sideline watch. This game was like oh jalen the starter but doug peterson needed a different perspective. He needed actually watch the tape and he was like. Oh jail the starter. So i'm glad he got there eventually. Wild and maybe doug. Peterson should watch all the games. Like on a four second delay on video and he can maybe make some better in game adjustments accordingly because he needed to watch the game tape to figure out the jail the start. I went with methodical. I guess he's trying to score points. Like yeah. I watched the game tape in now. Jalen obviously the starter so jenna. I just felt like this was the most obvious thing. And i i honestly i was felt like being to mean to. Doug peterson trying to be nicer. So methodical there i did. Part of my virus is the bomber is. We're not gonna have any more of those awkward moments in press conferences. Now that he named jalen hurts. But we will be okay onto houston texans head coach texas in general manager. Texas needs some winds and some new life. They do have a franchise quarterback though and owner callum mcnair is reportedly consulting with said quarterback deshaun watson on possible head coach candidates to fill the opening. Franson the texans consulting with the shawn watson on their next head. Coach is blank. Why jenna this is the most important player on the field. Is the quarterback. Most important piece on a team is the quarterback whether you like it or not so getting his perspective. It doesn't have that he doesn't have to have the ultimate say or you know a real decision in that matter You know when it comes to the decision but he should get his opinion. This means a lot. This relation relationship between quarterback offense coordinator and head. Coach is extremely important. If it's not properly ally then you're not going to win any games. This is why. Why agree with you brandon. And i wonder what the decision making process for mcnair was like. Well i could talk to shawn watson. The highest paid player in the history of my franchise best quarterback franchise featuring my franchise or knocking on my office door. Is this homeless. Man's joel osteen jack. Easterby who seems to all of a sudden he knows how to run a football team. You should i talk to. I'm glad he went with door neighborhood. My injuries shaves south. It's very simple hired as your head coach. Hire john dorsey general manager. John dorsey helped build the chiefs into what they are. Now he's available. Eric has learned underly. Andy reid for probably two years longer than he needed to. he'll be available. You all of you will go from bill. O'brien the head. Coach and bill o'brien. Gm to a real live head coach and a real live gm. Just try to be the chief south. That's my recommendation. Okay well they try and patriots than it didn't work. Here's a take nick. I'm not to go to mother okay. You got one super bowl. Settle don't need to cheat go. Let's be honest catanon. Play that back. I couldn't hear an over over the the the jingle jangle so get airbnb. Wants to go the texans in texas. Maybe if the gm comes with them. It'll be a little bit different. Nick but america enemy. I think it's a tyrod situation. You have multiple teams. So i think i just sit back. Maybe the texans. Maybe i don't like all these news reports coming out of there. We're thinking about the shawn watson. The guy is very loyal. So i wanna play the quote of him talking about bill. O'brien so it gives them a lot of power. But i don't. I wonder how much of this is. Lip service paid to deshaun watson because he obviously wanted to keep bill. O'brien at least last year. Take a listen. Yes no doubt i doubt. But he's no doubt. I love may say whatever you want to say do other media on. The writing is on a quarterback. Scully my heart is you can get on my ten percents. I'm not step on that field. So whatever i'm always be the men play wilde's and bill o'brien paid for by trading deondraye hopkins forum waiting and by the way. I don't know if you literally heard the jingle jangle wild was talking about. But that was all the asterisks banging together in his pocket not championship rings for the rain. Lines have one to asterisk via us with the game of the year last night. Ravens grounds in about a thousand storylines vin. And we'll have that for you next first things first wild back here talking nba. Let's talk to brooklyn now. Kyrie irving and kevin durant getting on the same page. This preseason last week. I read said carney said he's not talking to the media this season and was subsequently fine and then all of a sudden kyrie found some time to talk to the media. I wonder what changed your sky with more. have in disappointing seasons. The last few years hasn't necessarily been the best selection that i wanted to put out. But you know it's a different show. It's a different stage and it's a new beginning in terms of what we're moving building boom four with the peace. We have here and that includes seven eleven. So get to know us. Let's go. let's go joining us now. We're sorry good morning. There's a lot here with these two guys the team. There's the hype but let's start with this dual. What's more likely. Do you think for cain kyri in the nets this season in nba title. Or let's call it or disaster. Well jenner if the question was an nba finals appearance or disaster. I would go with the nba finals appears. I do think this nets team can be the second best team in the league. They're just. I don't see them. Beating the lakers. I think the lakers superior. Now i'd be foolish to sit here and say there's not a reasonable chance of disaster with kyrie's history of injuries with his history of locker room issues with teammates with his history of making bazaar and odd comments There certainly a chance of disaster. Heck now that he thinks he's kareem abdul-jabbar wants to post up eight times a game. You have to leave. Open the door for disaster. However i heard three things yesterday. That made me optimistic about this nets team. Having success one kyri did speak to the ponds and the media and he was calm and relaxed and comfortable number two. He took back his statement from months ago about the nets not needing head coach. And he gave steve nash the respect. He deserves number three when he unveiled the new nickname. Seven eleven. I like that nickname even though it's just kind of a glorified data but still it's a great nickname really notice corre- is second. Okay durant number. Seven is first nets fans half the hope that means we understands the second order number one number two so look. I'm gonna say that next. Have a better chance of being eastern conference champions. Then they do have a disaster one very interesting take. It's also not the question. The question is titled not eastern conference title in gay title or disaster. If i think we think it's also important fine disaster. Would you agree that that anything short of a conference finals appearance would be a disaster. If they have the same playoff run. The clippers did last year. That would be a disaster for this team right. If they're in the second round and out giving the expectations. Because i i think that would be a disaster for them. I go ahead and give him. I and i'll say quickly. I think it would obviously be a disappointment but disaster depends on how it is if it is you know if they finish losing in the second round because kyrie's caused problems or durant and kyrie along. That's the design. It's all different. But if they you know they could lose in a way where in the next next year. You're optimistic and think okay just took a year to get it together. They'll do that. So so here's my real concern for the nets. I think they are going to be very very similar. To last year's maps. And absolutely unstoppable offense. That can't stop anybody on the other end. And when you look at east milwaukee a great defense boston in philly very very good defenses. Think toronto is gonna take a step back but they were the number two defensive and basketball last year miami. A very good defense. By the way i listed five teams plus the nets. Two of those teams forgive brown to are going out in round one. That's just the math. And so i think the defense is going to be a work in progress at best which brandon put such a massive weight on the shoulders of kevin durant. Now i think kevin durant can walk back into the league and be the second best player in basketball. I think i need to see it. But i think he can. But as we've talked about being a great player and then there's also the leadership part katie can be a great leader but he hasn't had to be a leader in nearly five years. He was never the leader in golden state because that wasn't his role so he's got to be the leader. He's probably got to be their best defensive player as well as their best player. And he's coming off an achilles. It's just a massive weight on durant shoulders brandon going into this year so my answer would be. It's more likely they don't make conference finals. Then they win the nba title. Why i have them winning the title this year. So the answer for me is an eight title because of their chemistry now. A lot of people don't understand it. It's weird it's one of those things where you see a couple of it's like man. Why are they together. It just seemed like the i couple and it just works for them. It works for these guys. Go back to everything you talked about kris one of the things that katie said it was look. We agreed on two three posts ups and you have to check with me. He established who is lee in this thing from the beginning so i love to hear that. Let's not forget how prolific both of these guys were before the down and also before they got hurt. These are two of the most prolific scores in nba history. The game is about scorned basketball right. Now there's only two or three teams. That really played good defense. You get the lakers. You can throw out the heat. Maybe put it the milwaukee bucks and maybe maybe one other team. But there's this is not about defenses about offense for those reasons. I'm going with nba title. I want to show you guys this as well just to double down on this point. Twenty five points per game forty five percent from the field thirty five percent from three eighty five percent from the line. This is the list right. Here that's kevin durant kevin durant kevin kevin durant. There's nobody else on his list. This is probably the best scored and league has ever seen. He'll he'll take them to the title one hundred percent yeah. It's a bold claim. I'm going to give them a year with the condense schedule. Bussard and i think steve nash is going to limit. Both kyri and durant's minute i think you made a lot of good points. And one point the fact that they named themselves seven eleven because kyri has put himself in the second position because that was the order of sort of usage rate rather than just has a good range to it. I'm gonna give you a chance here to walk that back and acknowledged that he's just making it any brand statement of eight seven eleven. We're always open more so than it is a a a Wink towards injury plan for the brooklyn nets this year. Go ahead resort. I must admit if the name was eleven seven He probably would go with eleven seven. I get you on that. But i do think that he has a respect and i know he restrict. You can't help. But respect. Lebron james okay. However i think kyrie has more of a respect for kevin durant game. I might be wrong. But i think more respect for kevin durant skills. Then he had for lebron's. I think he looks at duran as i mean. This dude is seven feet tall wildly as as eleven to say he's arguably the best score we've ever seen looking what he can do. And where's lebron. Obviously was tremendously skilled. Or is i think you can also say enquiries mind well he's so big to in fast athletic whereas the ran is strictly just straight up skill and i think risk huge respect for that. So i said that bodes well for their chemistry. Yes us play little interrupt guys. Change harding joined rockets. Practice on monday. Finally still reportedly is pushing for a trade unmoved on interested in appearing with john. Wall back to you. You win around james harden being on the rockets when the season starts in on this unless philadelphia decided they want to trade ben simmons before the season which is not going to happen hard. We'll be a rocket if i'm houston. Look i'm saying let let's get james in here. Let him see how good john wall wall is not as good as westbrook but he is a more skilled player. I think hardwood recognize respect that. Let's let him see boogie. Cousins got something to prove and actually looks. You know the few preseason games like you still got his skills about him heir gordon. Pj talk like this team. Has tally is just a matter of bringing together. So i am given that a chance to work with james harden and even if harder dozen eventually buy it and say you know what. I'm cool staying here in houston. All it will do is up his trade value your ability to get more for if he's a good soldier. Yeah i don't think i think. Even if john wall comes back the best version of john wall we've ever seen. I still don't think harden is changing his opinion on wanting to get out of houston but i also think he starts the season in. Houston you saw the report yesterday. Houston wants been simmons and three first round picks. I think this is going to get done for. Ben simmons one first round pick and picks while. I think that's how this thing's going to happen. But i don't think it's going to happen in the next week. The nba season starts one week from today. So i don't think it happens in the next week i think so. He starts the season as a rocket. But he's certainly does not make it to the deadline as rocket. I'm pushing for their short shorts when the season starts let's get to our top story. You couldn't ask for more out of a monday night game. Let's talk about where baker and the browns. Now stand after this one first things first. It's next starred as always thank you. It's the twenty twenty football championship. The aviators that's wild team takes on the generals for the title tonight seven eastern only on f s one and fox sports app. We learn more and more about single day. Check it out all right time now for a prime performance sponsored by whole foods market your to all things holiday and everything else. Let me just say talking to monday night. Thriller in cleveland ravens. Browns lamar versus baker. This one had everything three touchdowns and an incredible ground game from lamar three touchdowns and a great passing performance from baker. Any lamar left came back with cramps. It came down to a last second. Justin tucker field goal for the win. Literally this game at everything ravens take it. They get the win there now. Eight and five in very much still in this playoff on tears head coach john harbaugh after the wing with all the things that went on in this game. The timing like you're talking about that right there. I mean if you're on a movie about this people wouldn't believe it they would say it could never happen. You realities is stranger than fiction. Or whatever they're saying is that's kind of what is here. I mean it's just it's crazy all right so next let me ask you who had the more impressive night that guy right there baker mayfield war lamar jackson to me. It's very very clear that was the best player on the field last night. I thought lamar showed once again that he is the greatest with respect to michael vick who everyone knows how much i adore. Lamar is going to go down in history as the greatest rushing threat ever the quarterback position and last night. The browns had no answers for him there but in the first three and a half quarters before he came back from the locker room his passing game was one of the worst. He's had all year in a year where he hasn't been good passing the football. He had six completions for eighty yards. And i three and a half quarters. And i know he only eleven tenths but two of those attempts were on consecutive plays when the game was still in the balance guys running wide open and he just missed them particularly the second of the two. I think it was mark andrews for a touchdown just missed him then lamar. When he came back was perfect. He made the absolute winning play on fourth and five with the game on the line and then when they got the ball back he made the right place to set up the justin tucker field goal. So it's not like lamar was bad but throwing the football. I thought he was really shaky in the for until the very and baker on the other hand against a team that they started the year against and got absolutely destroyed by carved them up all game and made one mistake snapping his streak of one hundred eighty seven attempts without an interception the longest streak in the nfl at that point. How did he respond to that. With three fourth quarter touchdowns including go ahead touchdown. And a game tying touchdown with a minute left argued that he scored with a minute left. That actually left the ravens too much time scored to fast only took him. Forty-seven so the question to me brandon surrounding the browns all year long has been. How good is baker going to be. We know the defense has a great pass rush. We know they have a great rushing attack. How good can baker and last night. I thought he was extraordinary. Against what is supposed to be an excellent defense. And so i thought baker was far and away the most impressive guy on the field last night. Yeah i thought both both of those guys were impressive. Both both of those. Those guys were phenomenal. They just got it done differently. Lamar jackson got it. Done on the ground baker mayfield. Got it done through the air Baker mayfield leading up to the game. I thought he did a phenomenal job. Not create any distractions any bulletin board materials. He's been doing that all year. Trending in the right direction. During a game. I thought his poise his demeanor. His moxie was was right there where it needed to be. I mean it was. It was off the charts. He played well after the game. His demeanor his leadership. How he handled the press conference phenomenal job but to answer the question. It's really lamar jackson. This guy won. Mvp during the way he did it last night. I mean that's what we saw. We saw retro lamar jackson. We haven't seen all year for him to literally do whatever he wanted there. We know why. Lamar jackson isn't putting up two hundred three hundred yards. We've been talking about it all years gregg. Roman you go back and you can study. Gregg roman and colin kaepernick. Colin kaepernick took his team all the way to the super bowl. And what happened after how to call and cabinet go from one of the best football players on the field in the league one in the faces of the nfl. Every brain wants to sign him to being out on on the forty niners with. I mean san francisco. How because greg roman wasn't able to develop the passing game now. Was there question marks around this kid coming in to the nfl one hundred percent but this kid can absolutely get it done. They just need the tweaks on things when it comes to their passing game. That's what they need to do. Now look coming down to the end Both of those guys stood up and made the plays they need it. But when you look at it. If i'm sitting in his locker room today and i'm breaking down film i'm looking at all the baltimore ravens. A defense like you guys gave up. How many points like this is a defense. That's supposed to be one of the better defenses in the national football league. They haven't shown up in the last six seven weeks and then from in the cleveland browns locker room. And i'm sitting in those meetings. I'm looking at him. Like look defense. Defensively i'm not hiring you guys because you guys gave up forty seven points. That's a problem. And then you look at the offense aside kevin's fans. He did a phenomenal job. Like this due to super creative and you really have to nitpick on why they didn't get the job done and if you really wanna talk about it is that pick. They ran the ball well but the biggest question mark around offense last night was him making this terrible throw. This was terrible and we can talk about all baker. Mayfield all we want. How great of a job. He did throughout the entire game what he did after this. But it comes down to these moments in games. These games are decided by two or three points. That's what these games are decided by in the national football league. You can't make these mistakes in critical moments so this is the reason why they lost game a big a big reason. Why our branding. I want to go back to one thing. You said there that the ravens need to tweak their passing game well how much of it is a tweak and how much of it is crumbled up in. Throw it away. Lamar completed eleven passes and grit. He was out of the game for a little while. So we'll take that time out but like it's just ten more passes than jarvis landry had and even the plays that were super successful. There was an element of of play breakdown with him. Making something happened so when he had that big big past mark andrews and mark andrews got open the broadcast all. Here's a safety valve is. Here's a security blanket. He held the ball scramble for twenty four yards. According to nfl next gen stats to me. I know they end up working. But it still gives me pause to say like this is our plan and it's a little bit like captain sully. I'm not this is not captain solely slander neck. I would never do that. Moslem for bowen captain where. He's only lands the plane in hudson river. You look at you say wow amazing performance but at the same time like ha not ideal not the ideal plan of how we wanted to attack the flight. I think it's in so lamar deserves all the credit. But there's an element of like emergency scramble in stress in the game. That doesn't make me feel like mvp's and makes me feel like the ravens are winning games. Despite or inspite of greg romans playcalling and lamar jackson. Making things happen on his own. Yeah i like the pill back the layers. i don't like to just have these conversations in a vacuum. I want to know why. Lamar jackson is the way he is. I want to know why. Baker mayfield is. The way is so when you look at lamar jackson if you want to figure out like you know if this team is committed to throwing a ball if they're good at throwing the ball look at first down there number one in the league at running the ball on first down now. Let's look at this game. What did they open up the game with right like gregg. Roman hairs statement talking about it internally. They've had some tough discussions in that locker room about what this identity means to be. So they here and guess what. They opened up this game with a pass but went counter. Pass a flea flicker. That's what they did. No not a stretch run. Streit's boot right keep right. Throw heavens crossers someone in the flat someone on an eighteen year. They didn't do that. They didn't go fundamentals. They didn't go double stake dragging on the backside. They didn't do that. They didn't go double go. Just take a shot at the temple. What they did is they came out with a flea flicker. That's what gregg roman did so. To answer your question. They need to crumble it up. And throw it out and i get that toilets. There were a few plays that. I assume gregg roman gold that i've mentioned earlier. We're guys were running wide open. And he did go past. Lamar missed like some of this has to be and i. I love lamar. Some of this has to be that he has not evolved as a passer quite to the degree. I think most of us myself included thought he would after his mvp season and his mvp season. He was obviously the super dynamic dual threat. But he's still through for thirty five touchdowns and over two hundred yards per game. That's not happening so far this year. But i want to circle back to baker. The question before you go to bigger question before you go to baker. Let me ask you a question. Really quick shooter get better at shooting the ball. He if he doesn't shoot the ball. No no okay. Does the same thing with lamar jackson. He threw sixteen times yesterday. He a quarterback needs to get in a rhythm. you can't call a quarterback. Hey let's throw the ball now we've been running all quarter and we expect you to win it with your arm. You gotta develop this in practice and you gotta develop this in. Gains sooner can get better sooner ball. If he doesn't shoot pazar get better off. He doesn't throw the ball. That that's fair. But i guess i would wonder if in practices if the shooter is missing a lot of open shots if that's why. The coach is not drawing a place for him to shoot a bunch of shots the practices i don't know but if lamar's just cutting them up dissecting them with precision and they are still running just this offense then obviously. It's a major gregg. Roman problem. But i do want to say something about baker. The questions surrounding baker as of nine days ago was. How are you going to do against the better teams. And how are you going to do with the defense doesn't carry you and against tennessee. He had the best half of football. Any quarterback has had mystically against any team year in beating a really good titans team and last night even though they didn't get the win. His team scored forty two points. He had three fourth quarter touchdowns by the way the second time this year. He's at three fourth quarter touchdowns to either tie or take the lead in the final two minutes. The only quarterback able conversation him in position. That and so i just feel like was announced in the loss back station. They know you lost the game. You lost the game conversation. Nine days ago when they played against the tennessee. Titans worse if you win the game number one throw for over two hundred fifty yards. We will put respect on your name. There's two big things you need to get a win. We also highlighted that. He's going against the twenty eighth rate passing. Defense and the thirty first ringwald quarterback of course. He's opposed through that he didn't get them win. We can respect them all we want. He played well but he didn't get the win. That was the conversation nine days ago. You're right you're right. I think if you're round missed out winfield better this morning with this loss than if they had won the game ten to seven because of what baker shows.

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We'll give it makes sense for paul george because you get long term financial security and i guess for the clippers considering what they gave book they basically mortgage their future. Coop was a free agent. You'd have to give up. Anything came voluntarily. But in order to get kawai sidekick you had to trade garnering alexander in four or five number one draft picks so basically your future until two thousand twenty six. You got no future when it comes to the drought. So i guess this what you had to do. Skip a worse. Come to worse you can trade him and try to recruit. Some of that back is very difficult to trade someone. If he's about to be a free agent and he doesn't make a long-term he's not willing to make a long term commitment to you. So that so i get it on both of their parts. Paul george and kawhi buzzkill. I'm just. I'm confused this max money max. Money should go to the top guys. Getting getting scared when i look at paul george. Paul jordan is in his last bible game. He's averaging twenty point thirty seven percent shooting. He's one import record a game. Seven against denver at ten points and sixteen. Now i know what paul george did his first couple year. The league going head to head with lebron in miami with d way to botch remember that but i also remember what happened. Those last two years in indiana also remember what happened when he was in. Okay flea. roth dropped forty five. He hit five. I remember that russell. Forty-five versus donovan's forty four. And paul george lady may yep so he did. And i thought skip when you gave somebody that kind of money you banking on what they're going to be moving forward. Yeah what have convinced you that. Paul george and the play. Because that's what you get that guy that money would he going to be in the playoffs. I just like. I say it makes sense for paul. George donated body. You'll be foolish not to take out of money. In the guaranteed to last year saw fifty million bucks and then no accountability. If everybody else folk the way using me doc had me use me like jj ready donald all this bra docking docs response on espn dot. Doc was saying wait. I was using him. Like i use rail and he said you know rail was really good. Maybe paul should say thank you. Yeah right who who made it. Hit the backboard. Who baiters you fourth. He missed that layup. He had a point blakely. It just dropped one of those things. I get it for. Paul george gives us to one twenty six million lakes but nick five year. I get that but for the clippers. Okay so as usual. I see this completely upside down from the way you do. I was hoping that. Paul george would bet on himself to way choirs about to bet on himself again. And have what you call a contract year where you could play it out and become free again after this coming basketball's right right about to do that. You can argue. It's smart on his part. He's he's a little more advanced in age than than paul is. And so he's got those those bird rights where you could max out by by becoming a free agent and then re signing with the clippers. You would make more money. Paul had a chance right here right now to go big on the the four year extension the last year's at his option for fifty million dollars so he said i wanted security right that speaks to who he is and who is not. Because he's like. I don't know i wasn't very good thinking they're gonna offer me this right. I'll take it out of the playoffs. The pandemic founded you'd be one ninety whereas you call him playoff p. e. was i. I do not disagree. Now here's another point of contention. I have with what. You're saying the clippers. Do this you know why. Because god i with no but he he is a complimentary star at best but i underscore that word star. He's still a star. He does not have ihnen he does not have much of that dog in him but espn ranked him in. The rain. just came out the top one hundred. Yesterday he was twentieth. And that's where he belongs is a top twenty talent. That's why you've got a guy who's made all star. He's made what six all star team and he's been all defense four times. That talent does not grow on southern california trees out here not does not so you just have to step back from it and say let's not be prisoner of the playoff moment and the odds are he'll do it again he'll do it again because that's his history that can get you to that point. Yes he can. I remind you coming off to shoulder surgeries. He had a pretty good regular season. He shot forty one percent from three at six feet eight inches taller. And he defends at a high level so so you can't find that kind of talent so if you compare the twentieth ranked player with the guy who i would rank second in the nba to plus twenty equals potential championship. So you can't just let him go you can't say let's cut bait with icon. Paul george paul here. He is still paul george in talent. But you but you'd given up so much to get skip and you keep telling me all these guys though. He played delete level. What did your mom or do. What did jayson tatum. Due to. okay. What was that. Where did it happen. It happened in the bubble. What was he going through. And i do not discount this. He said i'm suffering anxiety slash depression. I need counseling. Okay he was public with it. It's like okay. And they were coming apart at the seams internally because you had the veterans mantras and lou saying wait a second. You guys get to do this and that we don't get to do that. You get to take off you get to dictate circumstances whether we practice or not. And we don't have any say that they had such internal dissension with a coach who. I love doc. But he was just saying. I give up you guys go out. You know. i'm sick. You tune me up. I'm sick and tired of all of you. So i'm just going to sit back and foam arms on the bench and see if you can figure out how to close out one of three games in which you have leads fifteen nineteen. Pg one hundred ninety million. If guy shouldn't be able to do that even if quieter because this is what this way. You have two guys like that. Give lebrons off a d. Got to be able to bring home. Remember we look at. Ad was struggling. What did go. James do brought it home. So that's the reason why you have two of those guys who brought it home for you guys. You're third best foam good playoff every time you were in any kind of hot water at all. He just comes in. He settles it down. He sets it up and he gets people where they should be. So you can close diesel calibra trouble double game game. No i'm just saying. Are we going to discount. The numbers quite was putting up in the playoffs. Game seven is they were with would gag in in game seven. He did you got to you got can you imagine. Let's just say for the sake of argument skill. That's lebron james. And he has a free one lead any had leave the fifteen nineteen and twelve. I wouldn't be able to come out here and do the show with you because you were show that every we'd be talking about we'll be talking about something else. I wanna show you because that's what you do with the bloopers new show the bloopers the are you asking them right now. But i'm just saying let think second to you you you say the two guys start guys like paul george grows california palm trees and he had a three one lead alone could wa wa who you say is the best lead the nba. I do you got him in front of jane i do. I go kevin durant kawhi. I'll give you goat quote unquote. And i'll give you a human shave and you skip. You ought look fifteenth on my list. That's all he is that's all he's proven so far. Eighty can't severe fact that you've got. Lebron third. ulysses live should be disqualified. Stop it really. Well that's what he was a year ago coming off twenty eight and twenty seven as a starter as a first year. Laker while waiting to go. Here's the thing should show that blooper. Reel what i don't understand. Skip is the reason why you a lot of other people's had kawai in front of lebron last year is because he wanted to title gag in the divisional round with a three one lead. My guy galvani. The great lido might be the greatest leader in nba history. He's lost six finals. How can you be great if you've lost six finals. How can you be great. When you're the quote unquote leader of the miami heat in and you blow a two games to one lead you lose four five zero so you wanna make sure you greg. Meltdown you're the numbers. Tom brady angry. He didn't even average twenty points a game in those last three against else. Tom brady angry. Low light skin of all. i'm saying. Is that when you look at it. But like i don't want to get paul george five years to twenty six. I get it. Okay well i get all your saying. I'm with you okay. There's lot you enjoy earning this okay because you can't replace that kind of talent. That kind of talent will get you to that moment. Yes they should close the deal. No they don't have a trustable point guard. They're still pat never bus unless they go out and get somebody. I don't see coming. I have no idea. I don't think it's luke kennard at point guard but my point is they needed playoff. Rondo in for. I guess he took the money and ran. Don't do that. Yeah cafaro jolo. You just say paul george took the money. He wasn't willing to bet on himself now. he was not willing. Would you will rondo. Who had the injury history. Who's what about to be thirty. Four thirty five but you want him to go come there and play with them he would have been the last piece to the championship muzzle. I will give you that but you still have a championship puzzle. You still have whatever you wanna call them. The third or fourth best team. What are their odds. I think they're no fourth-best. That's fine okay. Fourth-best not all that bad. Does that mean you. You're a contender shot. But what about rondo skill. What does rondo like the boot and look rondo to wrong way. Then guys not out there practicing. We tried to get this guy go but but the point was coli has been doing this since san antonio so what's how are you shocked. What how could anybody be surprised. He was the hottest thing on the market. The lakers were on their knees for. Yes you wear water. But he chose not to. He got exactly what you deserve. The media people know lebron was whispering skill. And if you've got him that means that you gave in to all of his demands. what did i tell you. What did i tell you was the most fables called like to. Sometimes i can make a destiny on the very role. He took to avoid grandmother or grandfather. Still no good deed nuggets right here but that guy right there not saying. He's not a talented player. I'm not saying heaver. He was a very good player skill. But i'm saying in the moments you get a name and professional sports by playing big moments. I agree i. Waiting on him to have that skip. I noted early when he was in his early. Twenty twenty two twenty three twenty four with paul. Do thirty thirty one thirty that alone. Time with all the lamp off off that was two teams. I give you that. But i will take him paired with a much better player. And you still have a marcus morris and you add it or the twin. We got baca. The best free agent signed big about y'all bench player is not better than our baffler. Y'all flare casey cr guy with the hubble telescope. So you will paul paul george. Ad tell me how many general manager will take paul how many none eighty should have been ranked one on that list. The question how many general manager you would take a wild litter overflow gold. James well prisoners of moment a year ago all of them every one of them one year ago. Today we got caught. You take a while little over. Go jane you need to be in federal prison of the moment you need to be really locked up in the actual building the actual confinement remember. He was the washed king. A year ago that would use the everybody was saying that he was so hard he was using the hashtag on himself. Hashtag wash you had to talk about kisha. Come clear comeback player of the year. Tom brady to become you. Keep talking. i'm going to call that. It takes a lot of tenacity to keep a small business going every little bit of support from the community. It helps especially in this past year to help. Small businesses finished twenty twenty off. Strong pay pal is offering the chance to win up to ten thousand dollars in sweepstakes with two thousand twenty prizes. Small business owners have been hustling to help keep us going and smiling all year now. Pay pal is helping them finish off twenty twenty strong with a chance to win up to ten thousand dollars paypal. 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We're now joined by fox sports. Nfl analyst michael vick. Michael is a camden experiment. In new england of failing. Yeah as of right now. Currently is failing. Because they're six hundred seventy nine seven. Six below. five hundred is not going to do it right now. Alex said you don't when i look at this team i. It's a plethora of things just can a collected When i see michael brockers come straight up the middle last night. I put myself in camp shoes. What would i have done at and basically not that i got away from that and those other things that happened in the game other variables that that leads to the destruction of the patriots last night. You know when you look at cam. Newton and what he's been able to do. Some games have fallen hamid terms of losses in some. Anc been able to help them win. So i look at this team of all in this this minute collective effort on but as of right now you know this is not thriving. Not getting better is not just because campbell. And i will continue to say that you don't cam has been a part of the problem. Has been part of the solution either. Black you know in terms of moving forward. I think they continue to bill. Witt cam newton to what they have and just like you know. Every other quarterback around the league he was limited. He was limited and cameras so that anybody was limited weapons So look i'm not going to get into that. You know this is about cam and you know moving forward on you know. I certainly think that they could say to to sand if they put the right pieces around cam but as of right now alex you know. They're failing for the first time in almost two decades guilt the patriots will lose seven games in a season. Let that sink in two thousand two thousand two our remember. That team could we went. We don't think we were very good and we went to new england. Beat them Coming up they wanna super bowl. Skip cam is like a lot of other quarterbacks. He needs immense amount of talent around him to help now. This will help me understand this. My tom brady last year in this very same offense. Everybody says the talented boy. He needs more help. He goes the temple playing whale cam. Newton it in the same system cam. Newton has done. How does that work. If if if tom brady wasn't done played with washer camby. Why can't cam get to a situation where they have weapons with the have a nice running game. Even though they don't run the ball is. I would like to see tampa run the ball even more jones's fourth fifth in the league russian skip with the amount of materials that even on yards per carry. Yeah he didn't get enough of ten. Get it right. Seven hundred over seven hundred yards. You don't place to go for eleven twelve yard so all of the thing is. Is that what i saw last night. Is that when cam turned the ball over. When you're that the board of talent the officers out of football skill you can't turn it over because you're not built to come from behind and what we see. If they can't run the football and get non offensive touchdown. We know you're supposed to score the ball on up hits because that's what the offense is supposed to do. But if you cannot get apart return or kickoff return or pig fixed coupon score and you turn it over on your possessions. They're sold lack of talent. Skip they go to the ball game. And they're gonna look pathetic in the process. And that's what we saw last night actually watching the patriots. It will like damn. That's the patriots and the only reason we know is the patriot. Because that's what they said the tv kill. I enjoy kept telling. That's the patriots. The patriots you look at like three points That's how they got three points and they lose bigger to lose seven game for the first time in almost two decades. That's how far they fallen but that camp. That's the guy who got us making the commercials for subway. Because he shop all the growth. Every every visa grocery the silverware the ingredients. Good take the day. So about him. Seventy five provincial credit for everything that we good. I'm giving him seventy five eighty five ninety because they're not so i'm giving him ninety percent of the blame in there so what we see. That doesn't taste good. That isn't appealing to the. But i still believe camp can play if you give him weapons but the day of him be like what he wasn't. Carolina didn't have a whole lot and being able to overcome that and be superman. You can't be that guy. He's thirty one years of age taking a lot of pounding saying a lot of pounding this year and yet i echo what both of you just set. I'm not going to condemn him. For this. i will condemn coach bell check because he's not just coach bell check. Gm personnel director. He's everything he's president belch jerry skill. You don't have ownership time. Everything underneath in that cupboard is pretty bare and encamp defense in carolina. He had a security blanket named greg olsen and michael will test when when in doubt if you can throw it to a tight end like that or receiving tied in. He's got none last night. He threw one ball to one rookie tight end and it was not caught. That's all got because there's not even ryan izzo. He's now on our so. They went from the goat tied in and gronk to know tight ends. That's bell checks fault in my life of watching bell check coach. I have never seen a bell check team get so dominated in both lines of screaming by the rams offensive line and the rams defensive line as happened last night. That's all on him. Got exposed now to cam. He asked cam to win a lot of games with his legs. And the truth is if you look at cam season in total. It's it's pretty great. Actually because he had them within one play at seattle pulling off what seemed like a miracle that point they lost thirty five to thirty shannon. I think michael also said you gotta bounce it. You've got gotta balance that last play and he did okay and then at buffalo. It's a late fumble but you're you're driving to win the game right okay. So there's two and you got six and you got a bunch of nice wins against baltimore home arizona at home. It's pretty good but look what happened to cam. And michael can definitely comment on this. Look at look at cams rushing. He's rushed it one hundred thirteen times. It's only three short of lamar who leads the league in rushing attempts at one sixteen but cams yards for russia fallen to three point nine nine which ranked seventeenth. We'll start doing the math. That means you're just not getting enough yards because you're taking pounding your thirty one years of age. Michael talk about what happened to you when you got into your thirties. You just can't take the beating anymore right. Yeah yeah skipping in this also isn't is more mental than anything you going to games a you know you specifically have to show up and know what shannon said. You can't be superman. Like he was in twenty four hundred twenty fifteen. Is this not gonna come back that those days are gone. So when you go into your thirties. Is this mental lapse that you have thinking you know that you can do things that you used to do. But it's just not there and you know what in your mind when when these two so up you know. You can't move as fluently as as you as you want. Could in that long watching it on film it starts to become evident. You start you start to see it. You start to believe it at some point and then you start looking at the guys around you like man. I really need help. And then you don't see the help around you and then it's just discouraged from this so you saw delano your coaches and game plan and everything has to be perfect in football. Nothing is perfect. We got to go out and make the perfection. Come to life and you know when you can't do that you know you find yourself in different situations where you sit next six or seven on. You've finished the season eight new fighting so this is an uphill battle for cam is ultimately going to need the pieces around him in order to have success moving forward in the future going to going. Well here here's the issue. What if this doesn't workout. What i don't even know where bill chest gonna turn. Because they've been too good to get a high pick. And one of those quarterbacks in the top five or six picks they're sitting at fifteenth right now because they won too many games for their own good they beginning to will and yet if bell check really wanted to go forward jeered stood him. I got a really question is picking players because that looks like a disaster to me. But what if they cut with cam what if they. I don't know what they there's rumors they could get. Maybe san francisco parts ways with garoppolo and bill checks is. He's my guy. I want him back up. Okay so fine. so what. If cam hits the open market. I remind everybody. He lasted until july eighth before anybody signed him. And that was out of desperation by bill belichick usually when bell check. Cut somebody you stay cut because the rest of the leaks is coach. Gruchy right my problem with cameras. I love him because he just a flat out baller. I don't disagree if you give him some pieces a little bit of help right. Yeah he can still play. But you don't want cameras your backup because he's too good to be a backup. His or is too great. His personality is too big. He's not a clipboard holder. He's not andy dalton. And you'd owns a nice guy just says on fine. I'll take it right okay. So michael cam go if if he does get cut by bell check dc him landing any place. That's a good question skipping. I was thinking the other day. Wicked cam end up and going through the rolodex you know. It's hard to find a team out there. Who a quarterback at this moment i think the league is filled with teams. Who have guys in place. Oh got their is on guys may be able to enter in the future. You know mainly guys coming out of the draft so it it might be a situation where cam has to take that. Backup role in take-back Serious in weight so another opportunity opened up so he can go out and showed league that he's productive That gives them time to get healthy and get healthy not only physically but mentally because football can take strain on you so as a right now. I can't pinpoint saying that might be open for camden. Step being an mba stop. Let me say this. Mike and you can attest to this. The hardest thing to do as we age as athletes is to be something. We've never done before cameras. Never been a pocket passer. So how does what he'll bark to. What can you evolve to. That will prolong his career path for feedback. The term myself in the position skill. I can do that so so. What's what's the evolution western. Nextel i wanna see cam get healthy and get some weapons. Maybe maybe a new england is not the place for kale. But i still don't believe cameras can totally done. I wanna see him. Get the i'm not saying. He needs a sure he would love to have. What's in kansas city wasn't tampa but the likelihood of you getting that is not very good but i would like to see him. Have more have has in new england and to see where he can go from there. But it's hard this. I would say that and now mean you. All the best thing for can right now would be to fall into the hands of a guy like andy rate. Azari out. Explain it you know what. He means the quarterback position where he can teach you what you can learn if cameras willing to take on that role. He'll be successful Even more successful down the road. At the year to wit. Andy learning with the passing game entails in how to go out and bring it to life. 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No purchase necessary ends december twelfth. Twenty twenty subject to official. Rules starts saturday strong with a rocky mountain rivalry on fox says number twenty one colorado looks to secure a spot in the pac twelve championship host. You talk it all starts at big new kicked off at ten. Am eastern followed by big news. Saturday only on fox now coming in late last week to provide a spark jalen hurts his set to get his first. Nfl start against the saints on sunday now. According to pro football focus hurts his performance last week. Was the fourth best of any rookie. Qb this year despite having an interception. They'll michael vick is still with us. Michael what's reasonable to expect from hurts. I mean i think we can expect her to show us why he was drafted in the second round Obviously they'd be taken. A hat is something that doug peterson saying him. And i say this. Well when jalen when i was in college that alabama and then oklahoma he just showed that he was appeared winner and regardless of how he to win the game. He didn't win a lot pass in football but he he wanted not using his legs at using his mobility. And i thought that was enough so what i think will see in game is a little bit of what we save from. Say some hill asking the football showing. He can handle most of the concepts and then running the football majority of the time you know. Using his mobility an improv. You know at the same time. So he hasn't had a lot of experience has had a lot of snaps then get a preseason so basically this is his preseason even though is alive and it has significant maintenance is gonna add this. Show us that you know he can stop buying the senate and he can go out and for four quarters. Find a way to generate some offense. Oh i'm expecting him to play. Well i think we need to stand for at least a two three weeks in order to get a fair assumption of what is really is but Gliding and give philadelphia eagles the spot. We're expecting a lot more than i am. If you look at the weapons skip his weapons in college. Were better than what he has in fairly he was doing about jerry. Jeudy jared jalen wattle. Devante smith henry ruggs. I think he might have had the first year. calvin ridley his last year. You look at receivers. They got two of his top ten and they got attracting so when you look at it by. He had better weapons that alabama that he's going to take the field with on sunday in philly. You say you expect a new orleans threat. Anything happen when you're anything happened. Pick up a couple first downs with your legs. Heated chains moving. That's what it's all about Accidents alerts to god. Debbie's be perfect. The glide looked like Lamar jackson calamari is go out there and find a way to win a football game. I don't care how you doing to figure out. Willy fox comed- you go back and being funny to have. He called the dow what you would do comedy now as movie say you gotta keep moving. You know what new orleans represent you know when you. There's only so much you can do. so again. Word about the defense of what they what they present most of them are for sure tactless and they understand the game of football limited that question. How many times have you gone into a game where you had to grab. That went on the practice squad. You had three off. You have four your offense lineman that didn't start to regular season that's into game right now you running back. You're too tight ends. Had missed between the average of think they missed ten total games won mid sixty other for you. Running back just got back two weeks ago. How many games did you win in like that. Another one into a game like the weather. Preseason game i was backed exactly exactly so this guy so regular season games. It's a preseason game for them to regular season game with that against the number one decent deepest and put paul and so anytime. I'm playing a guy like that what i'm gonna do. I'm gonna take his first reader way. Because i know guys like that when they get into the game for the very first time that one read he'll go to either. I'm we'll take that read away. And then i know he took it and then i'm gonna put hats on it. That's the way. I approach it so allow me to say i believe in jalen hurts. I can't say i believe. In his chances. Against the new orleans lead the league in fewest yards allowed. The hottest defense in the league over the last month has been these guys. They lead the league in sacks over the last four weeks. This is a high degree of difficult. But i love michael vick's attitude of okay. But i'm jalen hurts or i'm michael vick and i'm not saying jalen is michael vick because he's not he's pretty good and he's got football character at the highest degree. He's got winners intangibles. And he has playmaking skills that i saw again and again at alabama and oklahoma that will translate into pro football even against the new orleans saints. So what i believe will happen is jalen will play better than carson wentz would have again in pure talent he's not carson carson six five and can throw it through a brick wall right but carson has lost his way. He's lost faith in himself. He leads the league by foreign. Interceptions turnovers lowest completion percentage sacks. It's a disaster right now so jalen will play better than carson would have against orleans. I believe jalen will prove to be a better. Nfl quarterback overall whole package then carson wentz has been so. I believe this is the start of something very good to great for for the philadelphia. Eagles it starts sunday. Know why this could be bad. By because guess what the new orleans saints had had the opportunity to do for the last two and a half three years. They practiced jalen hurts everyday. They david hill. Were there scout team. They get an opportunity to see that every single day. I still believe that the jails a little better passer than tastes. Leave that i just by do and so now you are a man team. I wouldn't pay playmate. I play zone. You know why. Because i wanna keep is front them. I don't want to turn my back. Because i don't want to run. Have him jumping out the window and picking up as mike was talking about picking up those first downs with his legs so we already know they. Can't we showed it against seattle wentz withholding the ball. He's waiting to get open and there's no separation you could throw a penny between those two guys. So maybe they'll play harder than separate better for jalen. Okay if i'm if i'm doug peterson i'm watching everything that takes him. Hill is done over the last three weeks not finding a way to to implement that in my game plan and not make the same even though this is a copycat league if you can get away with it do it but this is this will be something that they can do down the road If he started to be started for the next three or four games so i saw impersonal. Personal breakfast is fighting. Sake is absurd here thinking about all the guys that you just name. You know who will be playing on for the people knew this week and at this turned into a preseason game for taylor hurts unfortunate years is number one defense for the new orleans saints but the ultimately at the end of the day vegan. Take away something positive from this performance this this weekend and and use it as building. Blocks was next week in that. That's jalen hurts getting better in a similar golvin as a quarterback which that process starts now. Okay so michael. Wrap this up by commenting on this as a former philadelphia eagle and a quarterback it. It bothered me. That fletcher cox and jason kelsey. Both spoke up spoke out this week. Four carson wentz fletcher cox said. He's my best friend. He's been my guy from day. One and jason kelsey just raved about what carson wentz has meant to the eagles. Both his intelligence is off the field. His impact on the football team just went on and on both big votes of confidence for carson and kelsey concluded. It's just hard to believe we're at this point. And man jalen hurts is up against the saints. And he's up against his two captains fletcher cox. Jason kelsey both big votes of public confidence for carson wentz. How would that make you feel michael. Honestly it will make me feel good indirect. When i look at that i would take it as look. These guys are trumpcare two guys. You know there are leaders to this football team and they got caught since back throwing through regardless of everything he's been From know him having an injury and then going on win the winning the civil ball him having a of having to get back. It's been a lot so kelsey understands that more than anything. They have close personal relationship. They work together. Close levy day and fletcher just as a man. You don't understand what he's gonna. Do you know bailing veteran. You know for so long in this league and no one bet you know. It's been at every position so constant become one of the guys and they support him at. That's a great bank. So you know. We jalen hershey looking at that. You want that for the future for the new guys coming in for the philadelphia eagles in the future. Who's going to be a part of that same. You want to earn respect like earn with an extremely limited offseason. Tom brady had no time to get comfortable with his new team-mates in tampa. the buccaneers. Were still able to start the season six and two before they added another star receiver antonio brown and since adding ab. The bucks went one in three heading into their by. We am i gonna make is still with us. Michael come by how much better if any do you expect the bucks offense to be expected to be better because coming off a bat you always have a chance to take a step back what the offense is being able to do. The deduction is You know weed out the bad. No bring back in good this days down. The distances was better than in situations that we have a chance. You have a full week to go back and look at every bank and then some things that you were good at a probably resurface. But what. I will expect the tampa. Bay buccaneers the beat is a better run football team when he come back. Take some of the pressure off. Brady eat is a full game. Stresses both quarter season. You know gain some momentum get hot going into the playoffs if the playoffs is in the future for them but they have to run the football efficiently and i think they have to take it out of tom. Brady's hands and they got all the weapons and the gas around him but everybody has to come to grips on what needs to happen. The most important thing is making it to the postseason. Once you get there is one game season anything can happen. Aspect offense look different. But i don't all owners to be on. Tom brady moving for what i just wanted to know. Alex read in. But tom brady had a limited offseason. Everybody had a limited offseason. Tom brady every change. Okay i'm new near so we will make that. Okay i'm new for. That's why can't he had limited offseason. They signed him in july with a july late. June maybe i believe the books the lion spokesman i think six and a half do i believe they cover that yes i do. Because i don't see the problems that skip. That would give tom brady problems. Which is pressured quarterback minnesota. Don't do that very well. Air point bruce. Arians all also said ronald jones. Roggio is going to get twenty touches which said it starts with him and they rushed the ball twenty eighth most in the league. He's roggio rob jones is gonna get twenty touches today so i don't know if he meant yesterday practice or he means sunday. Come game time but the running game. How about byron left which they asked him. Why don't you run play action. I know you don't know well if you don't call the place whose fault disaster you probably do a little bit. But i think the running game would protect tom. Brady a lot better klay action. Tom brady very good play action. And it's low the pass rush down so they just don't tr. Skip if. i know you're not gonna even attempt to run the football off. Tackle your quarterback. Mike you understand that. Oh y'all go running at all. How so y'all just say forget. Y'all wouldn't even care about us. So i'm just going to come attack your quarterback so i do believe and that's what the bye week is all about the by week is going back in evaluating yourself. You don't look at so much. A who is next opponent. We mike and gary coach they go back and evaluate. Uh-huh this is what we did. We had too many plays out of this formation. That's why were the knicks successful early on me later as it was early on. So you go back you look at what you did. Good as mike said you look bad you try to get those plays out of there and we come come. This guys. We got to recommit. We're going to run the football. We're gonna stay committed to running the football. We fall behind by seven. We're just not gonna have time to go back and throw it forty five times. We're going to continue to run the football. And i believe they'll do. Did tom take the last two weeks and help. Coach defense which has given up the most passing yards over the last four weeks in the national football league because kirk cousins has been on. Fire say he went from third to first cousins over the last four week. They've won five out of six games and he's thrown for three hundred plus twice in a row. Okay so you don't think he'll go for three hundred. You don't believe me if you say you don't believe you talk about against a weakness when he's up against a right. Tom's up against a team that done rush the passer. He's up against team. They can't defend the past. So i'm looking at shootout so that alyssa's question look. Tom brady had to start from nothing with a brand new team new system. That runs completely countered everything he ever knew. In new england. It is no risk it no biscuit bombs away and he has tried to run exactly bruce arians system for all these many weeks there by we came late this year so we're deep into december now and they finally got two weeks off. Well they tried at six and two when they're playing thighs. Level to throw antonio brown into a mix that was working at the highest level. Well what happened. Nothing great happen because we we talk about the cam experiment. Failing i'm afraid the. Aba experiment has been failing tampa. I am fascinated to see what they come out of this break with. Ab in the mix is a unit out. is he out of the rotation. He fell out of the rotation the second half against kansas city when they were at their best. So to me this make it or break it for the brady office for for the buccaneers. Because if they're the team that i think they can be. They have to win this game if they lose to minnesota at home again. It's not that they'd be out of the plastic out of contention right. They'd be struggling just to scrape into the play right. So this is it and to answer the question. I do believe they will be much better than they were over. The previous three home game was give you saying he's starting from scratch. But it's a lot easier to start from scratch. When you got mike evans godwin and break in gronk and roggio as opposed to start from scratch with what cam but like you say if bacon run the football and protect brady is that what teams are starting to do skip. It started early. In new orleans game would they. I had the the game. Cam joined boom. Now use your face is the is the flags off but what teams start starting to do and you see like heating up. He's one of the worst quarterbacks against pressure in all the football a we normally would not say that about tom brady. But that's what we're seeing. Now the question is. Are you willing to run the risk and put your corner of one on one on the island with godwin with mike evans. Ab in the slot in grump. Are you willing to run that risk. I believe you have to take that chance a couple of times a game just so you can put a hat because you know when you and i play they would not get up in the first quarter just so you know they were going to be there. Come third or fourth quarter. You might get that drop so you come put the pressure on him and he hit brady making pick himself up on the ground in the first and second quarter just so he gets a little anthony any might through one a little early come third or fourth quarter and that might be the difference in your ballgame but you're going to have to sacrifice something because minnesota don't doesn't generate pressure would just pour me in front. I'm just less skipped said at man. This is it. This is it for tom. Brady buccaneers and obviously start with tom. And then the defense the defense is gonna play better than office has to play better. It's been too many three ounce over the last couple of weeks leaving detroit's outlooks. They are tied and expose all three. Who three in us. Oh my that'll that brady. Who's the go shannon. Who is it my homeboys. Go go go right now. Even though right now really been too many three dollars between land so a lot of bad things on opposing quarterback stoke so guess who homeboy gets to play for the man that this man michael just raved about. Andy reid who brady now has to play for that mad scientist down over these two weeks. I wanna see if brady assert himself because what does he do. Best play action. What else does he do best. Oh he loves motion so he can identify manner zone. They do none of the above. What else does he love. He loves to run screen. Pass a set them up and just lay him down. They run no screen passes so maybe over two weeks. They said maybe we should do this. That and that you gotta doubt that skill i liked occurs cable. Tv they no. You can't do that. So i had the known.

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Gamepinions Episode 43: Animal Crossing Has Taken Over Everything

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Gamepinions Episode 43: Animal Crossing Has Taken Over Everything

"Have you ever wanted to start your very own podcast? Sorry that's a dumb question. Of course you wanted to start your own. Podcast PODCASTING MAZING HEAD ON OVER TO BLUEBERRY DOT COM. That's B. L. U. B. R. Y. DOT COM use Promo Code game pinions. And then you. That's right you listening to this right now. You can have a free month of podcast hosting service and also if you take that Promo Code. You can also get a free month of stats. He can keep track of that. Podcast that you're working so hard on blueberry is incredible and the features are simply amazing. I don't have time to talk about them though because I have to start my own show so after this episode of Game Pinions make sure you head on over to blueberry DOT COM. Look up what it is all about. Use Promo Code Game. Pinions and get started on adventure of a lifetime won't toy welcome to game pinions episode forty three. I'm your host cowman today. I'm joined by Miss Nooks most popular Kim. Kim and I'm joined by a strawberry Smoothie strawberries food from Mick generally duties yes Very good actually is really hitting the spot So this is game. Pinions episode forty-three Those of you that are on our youtube channel. Welcome to the game pinions Animal Crossing podcast studio here on Raphael Really exciting to unveil this new studio which we have been compiling parts to for really since the launch of the game. So I'm really excited about that. We don't have a studio in real life currently. Yeah we actually record in a car so having a studio in game is really exciting. And it's awesome to finally have something on YouTube. That's not just a static image of our podcast thumbnail. So I'm super excited about this. Podcast studio This was definitely a collaborative effort between me and Kim. Kim Kim Kim really did the brunt of the designs So without her Engineer Witty this probably wouldn't look nearly as cool as it does. So Cam definitely thank you for that. Oh yeah no problem Yes we're super excited about this. Another cool thing about this episode I wanted to make this episode. Probably I think this past weekend but you know we got busy. And we're really focusing on working on things But we are two years old now gained. Pinions podcast is two years old We are now on our third year which is just absolutely crazy to think about Kim Kim. It feels like just yesterday. We were sitting in This place called Freddie's what is the frozen custard talking about potential game. Podcast and you know really pumped up about it. The thing there was snow on the ground outside and we are super excited to start this podcast and we are forty three episodes in our mainline series. Of course that's not including our bonus episodes and all that and just a lot of time has gone into us. You know crafting this this podcast and you know continuing to grow and kind of become our thing so it's been a really fun two years you've been here since the start so it's been it feels like I feel so old but it's already been two years and although things are a little hectic still To get better at this and organizing and figuring out better ways to do what we're doing now and improve so I'm super excited for the future and and what we have you know going on. You know we definitely have more people joining in and excited to actually re part of it so absolutely. Yeah we've gotten to record with Tj My brother Dakota who is you know my best friend and then John who is another really good friend of mine And it's been awesome. I mean this this year already has seen US finally record with four people which is something that I talked about in the prologue episodes something that I really wanted to strive for was eventually having. Four people on the PODCAST. Is it the way that I initially imagined? No I mean. We're all remote except for me and Kim who are here together reporting So you know. It's definitely different than how I imagine it. But it's still awesome and we've learned to kind of overcome the whole remote podcasting thing and we're still improving that so it's really exciting. I'm really happy This is the longest I've like worked on a project before so it's really cool that two years in we're still really happy and passionate and excited to continue so I'm really excited about You know the future of game. Pensions going forward. And now we have a brand new virtual studio you guys get to watch so it's really cool to go along with our new studio. We're going to go ahead and implement a new recording schedule so we are going to be recording on nonspecific date not really important for you guys to know but all of our uploads now are going to officially be up on Thursday morning. So that's every single week our mainline episode of. Game PINIONS IS GONNA be up on Thursday mornings. We're still trying to establish our NASCAR. Bonus episodes with those are really bonus episodes. They kind of go up whenever but our mainline episode so episode forty four episode forty five episode forty six etc. Those will go up on Thursday mornings and they'll probably be available on apple podcast on Wednesday nights but it's going to be late on Wednesday nights so let's just say Thursday mornings. That's I'm not really sure how the algorithm works. It just seems like apple podcasts. For whatever reason I'm not really sure And Yeah that's pretty much our housekeeping can have have you been. We haven't recorded for a little while I've been. I've been going crazy with my little animal crossing stuff. Like I'm obsessed. I guess is a better word for it and of course I've gotten all these in person like in real life items that I never thought I would get. You know that. Look like game related stuff. I just didn't want any kind of stigma or stereotypes but I can tell you now I think I have flakes well to is. I have a hat. I'm thinking more on the way I mean it's it's pretty bad it's getting bad. I'm proud to wear it like yeah. I play animal crossing. What do you think that we are very easily influenced by games and when we whenever we'd like a game we instantly want merchandise for that game? We want something. It doesn't have to be elaborated. It doesn't have to be crazy sometimes. It's elaborate but we want something to do with that game. We want to have some kind of piece of clothing. Have a hat. We WanNa have a necklace like in the case of death stranding. We WanNa have something from the game or something that resembles the game. Yeah absolutely and we just get into it. You know. It's very easy to get passionate about and stuff and you know it's always fun to just hop on Oetzi especially because we've had some really good experiences on there and we'll we'll upload some some videos of different things that we've gotten from Oetzi but I mean there's just so many talented people out there making awesome stuff and it's it's awesome. It's awesome going on there and just seeing like a catalog of things that really if you and usually better price and how you would get them and better quality than how you would get them elsewhere. Definitely the quality in indefinitely the fact that there's a lot of unique stuff that hit their first before they anywhere else really I mean. Most people are just shopping on Amazon. Nowadays but what? They don't realize Oetzi if you if you're nerdy or you have a niche. Definitely Checkout Oetzi. I I mean I I found out there shakers on their in shakers. Are Those little cute toys. Have that slow. Moving water in them with the flows putting stickers. And it's like I think there used to be like a fish maze game where you used to like. Try to float the fish down into the maze and our I was like those are still around on. Its you guys like. It's Yeah I've been staring at him for a while. It's it's really awesome. Of course you know you support them. You're supporting small creators and really helping them out a lot and you're really getting a lot of times. Some really awesome stuff in return. So I've been really happy with ad it's been fun. That's been kind of an activity that really both me and you've enjoyed that a lot Kim and I for a while I guess honestly it might have been a year ago or maybe even just nine ten months. I swore off any nerd stuff. I was like a mock owning this stuff in person. I don't want this. It's just a bunch of clutter and at sea has basically got me back in your house. Aquino I have a collection box. I can have a boxful of collectibles. It's too cute not to say like you know you gotta gotTa say Yes to it. It's Doraville So that's that's something that we've been doing And of course we've been super into the animal crossing New Horizons Game Obviously I think pretty much everybody has right like it's it's been just absolutely insane and before we get into it because we figured that you know the best way to kick off our brand new podcast studio inside animal. Crossing would probably be to talk about animal crossing right. It makes no sense so I just wanted to go over some news and you know this is. This is pretty impressive stuff during a Q. And A. PORTION OF NINTENDO'S FINANCIAL RESULTS. president Shintaro For Akhara Four for. I said it right at some point in time. It's been a long time. We've actually gone over like news on our podcast But this is a quote here that I pulled off of Nintendo everything dot com the initial sales of animal. Crossing new horizons have greatly exceeded our expectations. We were targeting. The current sales number for the Games lifetime considering fans have been awaiting such a long time for this game. But it's all happened at a much faster pace than we anticipated with fifty percent of those sales of course being digital Which that's pretty impressive and just to give some context here. I don't know why my screen is like so tiny so small All right So just gives them context wild world on the Nintendo. Ds sold eleven point seven five million copies lifetime city folk on the we sold three point. Three eight million lifetime. Then we had newly clocking in at twelve point four five million and happy home designer which is really more or less a spinoff smaller game That sold three point four million But as of March thirty first and doesn't I don't believe include the April Sales. This is just based on. March thirty first Animal crossing a for the the switch new horizons. It has already sold thirteen point three five. No that's not right well. It's in the thirteen millions. It's already third. It's thirteen just then. May that was just that was just from March twentieth mate. What am I saying? Those just March twentieth to March thirty first. I believe so. It's actually three per ten days or something and and it has thirteen million. Imagine what the sales look like like April. Oh Yeah Oh my gosh. Yeah it's it's just. It's absolutely insane. How well this game has sold. Let me just verify. 'cause I don't WANNA be wrong. Here are all jacked up. Let me just see curse that baby font. It's so small But I'm pretty sure it was thirteen point. Four one million already there so many sales I mean I understand we and the the smaller games not doing well because you know just small. And they were released to specific consuls that. I don't think the we was that that popular to be honest with you In most people that did try it out. I mean I know. I ended up trading my cousin to get the playstation during that time so the we's a rate was ridiculous like unless it was we sports which came with it or we fit the attach rate for the Games was very small so people were not really interested in buying any like the mean exclusives for the most part. You know that because I mean it's sold incredibly well the actual system but if you look at the game sales it's like so it's it's so like you know night and day between the two because it just doesn't add up. It's like these. There's no there's all these consoles but these units for these games are not being moved. So it's really it's really crazy to think about. Yeah in fact is during this time like I think about thirteen. Million people like owning animal crossing. I mean de honestly that opens up a lot of Possible friendships for me. He's right news because the last will crossing really eight years ago there. So you kind of got in the tail end of the very end and now I actually get to play like this new Crisp Clean Super Nice version and I love it. I love the old one but now I can really get into this one. I feel like I'm on the same page the whole world if that makes it. Yeah now I want to correct myself here. Okay Okay so within the first eleven days animal. Crossing New Horizons actually ended up selling Eleven point seven million copies but that figure eventually grew to thirteen point. Four one million now just for also some further context of the switch games currently out. It's currently ranked I believe tenth. Yes it's ranked tenth So it's behind. Mario Kart Eight Deluxe which sold twenty four point. Seven seven million Super Smash Bros eighteen point eight four million breath of the wild seventeen point. Four one million Super Mario Odyssey seventeen point four one million boogeyman sword and shield Seventeen point three seven million pokemon. Let's go piege. Chew eleven point nine seven million so actually. I'm assuming that now this assault thirteen point. Four million unless pokemon has grown as well I think it's probably safe to assume that it's actually moved up a spot. So it's just it's impressive like they. They said that they were actually projecting this to be its lifetime sales but the fact that it's already hit this and you know less than three months. Now get this because this is just all the base game. They always do updates. And they're always add content so I imagine those sales are going to spike once that especially once burster gets put in and people are hyped about him because he has to come around eventually And I'm sure as you can actually do more with friends online. I guarantee you that those are going to spike absolutely. And what's even more interesting is. There's a shortage in switches right now. People are scalping them and people are selling them at way higher prices so really wants this whole pandemic ends and production goes back to normal. Who's to say? This isn't going to have another surge in its its sales numbers. Once people can actually obtain the switch so and this is this is probably one of the most mainstream games that Nintendo has produced in a while. You have politicians playing it. You have you know. Movie writers playing it like scriptwriters Famous you know writers in various industries playing it. You have celebrities. Playing of leisha would showing up in people's towns like it's it's unreal like the Detroit. Lions used animal crossing to unveil their NFL schedule. Like it's just it's completely unreal. How much this game has just basically propelled itself into like just a major spotlight. You know establish itself as just like a top tier nintendo franchise. Now if it wasn't before yes crazy seeing people that I would consider like we. We would have nothing in common. Suddenly they're playing animal crossing posting about it. I'm like do you want to tell us something? Do you play games like it's just cool. It's so nice you don't feel so different. I guess is absolutely in this. This is like you know it's a small little life simulator if you WANNA call it that and there's just so many different things that you can decide to do in it and there's been people all over the Internet doing some really creative stuff with animal crossing and it's been really awesome. See it and you know we obviously want to continue that trend to we wanna make some cool stuff with animal crossing but then there's other people that aren't doing that and they're just enjoying their time in it. They're just picking their their fruit They're digging up their fossils. Are Doing the bug catching and fish catching and they're just doing whatever. Then you have people in the stock market that are buying up a ton of turnips in trying to flip them for you. Know more more money going to various towns. We just went to a town this morning. We did in so crazy because I I'm really scared about turnips as like I'm not going to do it. I'm not GONNA do it. I watched the prices in my town. I was so like I don't know man. This is a lot so I ended up getting turnips and anywhere fast forward to today because we did. A couple of transactions in interacting with strangers is actually a lot of fun. It's almost like you actually have a flight. You have to catch like oh my gosh. They're opening their gate. I gotta go now or the close it. This panicked like my flights now in your picking up your turnips than you're packing your bags. You're going to someone else's island in this morning. We went to. I believe she is actually Japanese But she's yeah at least that's what my translator says on my twitter Is that she was actually typing Japanese but her turnips or selling for like believe around five fifty four and I was like oh I gotta go sell them. It's always great to so and like really early in the week. So that you have money to buy anything in the nook shop when it when it comes up so. I WAS WAKING UP. Khow out like seven. Am aiding him was like wake up. We have to sell. Turn come on come on get your speech and we jumped on and we went over there. We brought you know little souvenirs. Little gifts He actually brought way more than I did. He brought like four gifts and we were able to sell our turnips for a huge bryce. And we we drop the little gift in you know. She actually said coli to my little outfit. I had going on with her super sweet and I think when you came you were dressed up as lucy. That's from one piece. And she knew who that was which is crazy because I just find it. Just nuts how she knew because not everyone watches anime or anything and you draw like five gifts. I believe she did the little shock. Like Ito I gave her couple box. Sofas and a couple of cars and something else it so the cars he's talking about or the car beds racecar beds and as you get a black in a red one and then I dropped a cute black and blue of acute bed so I dropped that for her as well and we left in later on. She actually tweeted about us. It was she was like you know. Thank you so much Lou. Fi dropped off so much. Nice things for me. It was so sweet. And it's awesome that you get to connect from people from like across the world gets absolutely and she. She wrote it all in Japanese too and I don't know it's it's just moments like that in games where I don't know it's just so wholesome and it's so it's so nice it's I guess it's not like an imminent Mo- where you're fighting something together. You're actually just literally. It's yeah we're just trying to make some money. It's just commerce and literally flying to an island. It's it's really really really cool and it's kind of bringing people together reason people's spirits and you know it's of keeping everyone's mind stuff that's currently going on and it's I duNno. It's there's something just about it that this is like the perfect storm of releasing this game with this theme. You know with this crazy pandemic going on. And it's like people are just really reacting well to it and people are doing their own thing with it and they're having fun and I mean Heck Kim you've been you've been decorating your island you've been you know changing things up. Oh yeah so I mean even me like I like to go online and I like to look at things and get inspired in. It's cool 'cause it seems like everyone else is doing. This too and people are more than happy to share their codes for their different paths. And they're different things that they make and it made me one actually make something in Cherry and so I ended up making like these little star bells hits and I have full intentions of posting them and being curious. Go if you want them. Everyone's too so sharing in so nice in. It's so different than any other game. I mean I've played a lot of IMOs and it's very hard to find like a good group of friends in those games. You know like really nice people but in animal crossing it seems like almost everybody's nice does it does. Yeah there's always going to be the few that will come into your town down trees and all that stuff makes him that falls. Yeah I mean that's that's Kinda how it is but it seems like for the most part though the community's been really good everyone's been friendly everyone's been willing to help You know obviously there's some really weird stuff going on with like people selling their villagers for like real world money. Gamers are making their own micro transactions which is really strange to me but there is a lot. Yeah you're right. There's a big impact with animal crossing with what people are trying to do. I've found somebody trying to I mean these. Qr codes are available online. You just gotTa look deep enough. They basically took a bunch of qr codes right. They are trying to sell this batch of like just have like a preview shot basically of them and they're like okay. Give me like five dollars. I'll give you the QR codes these things. It's like what are you website Fox looking for. I don't understand. Are you read on the Internet like you? Is that what you're trying to? But it's it's a little strange when it comes to that for how people are trying to earn money. I guess and especially with furniture said which eventually everyone will get in. There are so many groups cataloging those things so I do find that a little weird but I don't. I don't think a lot of people are doing it. Unless they're trying to at least like their favourite set or something is same with villagers. A lot of people are trying to get like the raiders that do not have I guess Amigos de they don't have any way of calling them into town but I mean if if you genuinely want that person I feel like you know you'll get him eventually or you know it's up to you if you really want to buy into that but from you know what I've seen really I don't know I don't know if it's really worth it. Because there's there's tons that little cute characters that I very is. You can look at you know. Figure out which ones are your favorites. You only get ten. Yeah and you're crazy if if like if you don't think they're gonNa make me both for these things are crazy. There's money to be had. It's literally paper. I really hope they make a me bows for. I know it's a little daring but every maybe like the phase you know. I really hope they do it for the girly ones. Because although every girl seems to have cookie and Diana I love Them I think they're so adorable and I do really want little statues do that but they will. They will definitely make the cards because the amount that they can charge for him and just the overall cost of those cards doesn't cost too much. Probably cost him like cents on the dollar to create those things wondering if to do like a random pack can I you know yu-gi-oh cards or pokemon cards. They give you like industry packs. Yeah get random. Paxos would be fun. It'd be like childhood days again. You're the only thing I don't know if Nintendo will do. I'm not sure if they'll if they'll do the random packs because I know like there's you know huge thing against like you know loot boxes and stuff where you're not sure what you're buying so. I mean they could probably right on the card. I mean but there's like a ton of different card companies out there doing that right now and it's not really considered that so. I'm not really sure if that's an issue or not thing that's really just mainly like in game but a much of Nintendo will go that route or not. I'm not sure either. I don't remember them when they used to sell these card packs or cards back in the day of just actually pick the one that you wanted online and they just ship that one to you but I do know that there's a lot of creative people on edge that are actually making custom cards and custom queens and it has been very interesting and really cool and I do hope Nintendo makes their own but at the same time like all the really pretty ones on. Ed are very tempting. I really like hope. Some artists make more people in their holographic cards. That'd be pretty cool. That'd be pretty cool. So yes we've kind of been dabbling in that. I have a stitches AMOEBA. Kim You have a few of me Bo. Yes a few AMOEBA by I K. So okay let me try to think about which ones I have here. I have krissy which is like my favorite. She's this pink really bubbly. Poppy of Bunny and I'm not sure about like France senior because it really. I heard that she's she has the snob or snooty personality type. I do not have her. I didn't want to get her yet because of that. I have cookie cookie as a as one Julian. Which is the Unicorn on? Cookie is the dog by the way. She's like pink dog. Julian is the only Unicorn that's like blue And then I also have willow which is yellow and she kind of looks like Frida but she's She's really Pastel and pretty and then I have Mary which apparently I say that wrong. Mary She is this Katie. That has a little double Chin so she looks like this Chevy Kitty in a way and it's super cute and she has like this little patchy hair pink nose and mouth and the bottom of her. Feats are like little pink pause so it's really sweet And then of course I do have Diana and I have few shop because I really liked. How colorful in pretty. They were in like deer even though dearer mean to me in real life and do like deer fauna is super cute. But I didn't get her. I wanted the colorful ones and you can only have ten villagers. I'm trying here and I do have some that. I'm kind of questionable if they're GONNA work in my game. One is e toiling eight toy. But it will. She's basically like willow. She's big she bram thing And she sure if she's a sheep or Ram but sticks she She's like the one she has this weird scarf a belief or stars in her hair in. She's like purply light purply. I believe I do have. I think it's Chai. It's the elephant with the pink teacup on her head is coming and she's apparently Really old from you know older game in. I also have the other one. I'm trying to remember their names because it's the hardest bright remain And I guess she is a white goat and she has like this really cute here flowers thing and she's I think white with the Pastel hair I think but anyway I'm not going to work on my game so I'm super excited for that was very cool my Miami Bo upset earlier was stitches and I wanted stitches. Because he was one of my favorite villagers in the first animal. Crossing game that I played which was While world so And I said one of he actually was my favorite Villager so reunited after like fifteen years. Or How many years? It's been really excited about that. He's finally moving in tomorrow tomorrow. I kicked out my pink hair. Megan who wanted to move originally while I was trying to get enough villagers to have K- K slider come to my town. So I kinda held a little bit of a grudge with that Considering she was only there for a couple of days when she wanted to move out so she finally got her wish. We have somebody that actually wanted to be in the town stitches. And I think he's going to be a much better resident he has a lot more spirit he's a lot more islands spirit than Megan did so. Yeah some really Really excited about that. So he'll be there tomorrow and Yeah so it. Yeah but yeah so. I've we have little island towards that. We're working on a video by by the time we time recording this it might already be up I don't know like by the time we're publishing it might already be up so You guys can kind of see. I guess what we're going for on their But any long-term goals with your if your island I need a whole lot more of the simple panels. I realized just how valuable they are absolutely. We love the simple panels all kinds of stuff as simple panels. Yes and I actually have a skyscraper that it's basically is it's made to look like a skyscraper Design that I definitely will be sharing with everybody As soon as I could that posted up on on my tumbler so looking forward to that is going to be pretty great. I share these codes. Once you see the video made sure that I do put that into description So that we could get that posted but this has become my life now so I think that's you know there's GonNa be a lot to look forward to in terms of what I'm doing on here and screen shots maybe videos so. It's very exciting exciting. I know that for me personally. I'm always excited to wake up every morning to boot up the game. See what's in the shops See what's in the you know the clothing store and to see who's visiting the town like that's something that I really look forward to every single day. Especially because you know we're kind of putting together this podcast room and you know it's never gonna be. I guess like a complete finished product. We always want to include more stuff and make it look cooler so I mean just to see what else we could get and both me and Kim. We are kind of against the whole time traveling thing. Like if that's the way you wanNA play that's perfectly fine You know we wanted to create this podcast studio as soon as we got the game. But I didn't want to compromise Mike enjoyment of this game just to create this this podcasting. You know this podcasting studio so I would rather just kind of wait and accumulate things organically and you know or you know within like your your friend pool. I just didn't want to reach out and try to like you know US real money or use a ton of bells to get something from other people and kind of ruined the I guess organic -Ness of you know what I mean. This choked on my strawberry smoothly when I try to definitely understand that. Ceo Trimbe traveling. We want to enjoy the winter and the change of seasons the day of data. It actually happens instead of like fast forwarding. It seeing what happens going back and forth and there's no point I mean we don't have anything we WANNA do by time traveling so for us. It doesn't really make any sense to be honest with you. We like to wake up and be surprised each day. It's just one of those things you get to look forward to The next morning but as far as like trading. I completely understand like the excitement of trading. And just go into other people's places to trade and catalog things especially if you just have some really bad luck I completely understand and especially for the nuke mile stuff. That isn't tradeable will. You can't obtain the different colors unless you trade so I understand that definitely in my opinion and I really appreciate those people who allow you know trades because I really wish they would like maybe change that catalog month or something. So that if you don't have to play with friends or strangers you how the option to get all those colors you know eventually within time so I really hope they do something about that to be honest but if not there's tons of people that are willing to trade definitely break. Outta your show is not going to last forever. Just go out. Try to get it and be done with it and you'll be happy now if you're like me a Manatt and I'm pretty sure I have like eight pink vending machines on my island. Now 'cause I just can't stop collecting them I just find new ways to use it but I got like the pink Pastel teacup Rides and I definitely traded with people to get those and I gave them some the pink items. I had so I definitely understand that. Yeah absolutely yeah but when it comes to paying real life money for anything. I think it's kind of foolish because people are more than happy to help you get what you want. Yeah I think that if you're in a situation where you really want a piece of furniture and it looks like your only option is to acquire it through the actual transaction like they want you to vima or something I feel like you just need to wait. 'cause I mean there's GonNa be someone else that has it. Make a post. Make Post on metairie right now. Twitter instagram or Tumbler. Make Post people will be talking to you what you got. What do you want to trade for? Sure why I don't mind here have it. I mean I've given people things without any charge and I'd be more than happy to do it again and again because it's just it's just the right thing to do so and I think most people are really good about it. Just kind of see some people doing the whole money transaction thing kind of like you know know the saying is. It's like something spoils the couple bad apples. Spoil the Badgers I. I don't know what it is. Yeah so you know it's it's kind of have to avoid that but you know I guess You know with my island. I just Kinda you know trying to make it somewhat one PC in a way What's that mean? I don't really know? Just you know using those plans which you guys will see in the In the island tour But trying to basically capture what I think of You know I guess one piece in a way So I want to have like a fish market and all kinds of stuff at the opening which my openings not very big because you know it's right in front of the town centre yet. The Plaza in front of the plaza. But you know playing the game though. There's so much to do. There's so many things that you know we can still work gone and it's not limited to certain tasks and then you're done for the day like you know the other animal crossing games worse definitely improved that aspect a lot like we can literally find things to do in the game throughout the day. I can tell you right now. I literally an amusement park an entry town centre thing going on I have like a graveyard. Not sure why made one. But it's very cute graveyard. I have a star bells. Brewster's go to somewhere eventually. I guess so I'm GonNa pop him somewhere. You're I have a bakery. I plan on having a diner. I'm planning on having a Nail Salon. I mean there's just so many things you could and so many paths that you can have and I will say that you are limited Your paths are limited like your custom slots for paths and grass. And if that's the case definitely try to make your own designs because if you do upload them in able able sisters kiosk you can actually get those back. And that's like another little upload space anyway just know that if someone has artist code that can access it. So if you don't really want to share you don't post it. Just keep it in your Tori. But I've actually stored quite a few of my things I decided. I didn't want and replaced with things that I found on the Internet. I liked more so definitely consider doing that. You just can't upload other people's works so I think I don't know exact number of slots at you can have but either yeah. I'm not sure it's a lot but not a ton and I have maxed out already. I can tell you that I cannot get emmy. They wonder if they're going to eventually make like a quality of life update and expand that. I honestly hope so. Because it's a very creative game and for the amount of slots they give you four pads. I think they should definitely give us. Maybe a little more. You know an extra. Ken Slots can be really good. Actually because I I was watching. There's this one video that's kind of floating around and it's basically like you know an animal crossing fans like dream Nintendo direct in their certain aspects. That you know he went in and in a very good job. Editing actually But just of different changes that Nintendo could make to Anima crossing just kind of improve its quality of life and one of them was the crafty mechanic and he put in there. An option to say you're crafting fish bait instead of crafting one at a time. It allows you to select a number like you know a quantity of how many that you want to craft and it actually looks way better. You could just select. I want you know ten ten bait. You can put it in there and he'll go through. Ironically I thought that was in the game. I just thought I didn't know the but it's you have to do one at a time. So if you WANNA craft a ton abate you could be spending like an hour. And they're trying to craft like you know thirty pieces or whatever so that's definitely something that they need to look into changing And you know there's there's some other things in there too. That's the one that stood out the most. I would also like to point out that it is rumored or you know. It's rumored that there is going to be a customized for you know fences basically because there have been screened shots with white picket fences. But you could not have a white picket fence okay. Unless that is an event item Which would be kind of crazy but I mean I could see maybe being a possibility. There is a white picket fence. And there's no way we can pay our wooded finances right now. Which has me thinking? There's going to be an update to fix that implemented whence they may be like you know. Make sure there's not going to be bugs with it With other customization features. I guess I don't really know I really hope that gets implemented. Because the would've offenses are the majority who offense as you can get right now and they're not like there's the lattice feds. There's the pure looking. Vince has like these. There's like privacy looking fence that they're all wooden and the are would. And if you have a different woodcutter going on in your town it's not gonNA help really hope that is a feature yet and I think that judging by how fast they updated the game they put red in there and they put leaf in there. And you know they're having like these different events. I think that's kind of shown that Nintendo kind of set the tone there that they're gonNA be aggressive with this game in terms of updating They're going to basically be attacking this game and I think we're GONNA see incremental updates very frequently. Actually I think that at some point in time we're GONNA see Brewster. I think brewster is going to kind of make sense to him to be. You know kind of like a fall update but I could also see him being available in the summer and now not only does he sell coffee but he also sells like you know sodas in and you know different kinds of drinks and ice cream and food items as well. I think you know we're going to see something like that. And who knows maybe him along with another character? That's being re purposed. You know we'll be in there as well And then of course when that happens instead of performing in the plaza maybe KK slider goes and starts working at you know starts performing inside. Brewster's you know food area cafe or whatever it's considered which would be awesome so I think that you know we're definitely going to see something pop up. It wouldn't be surprising if it was like a. You know a snack shack for A diner of some sort. But I think eventually we're going to see something like that come out And I think that they will make quality of life changes to the game too. I think we're gonNA see things that we want to have added because I mean really. It just benefits them to do so. You have such a big player base that it's it's worth supporting us in worth keeping people active is just GonNa make more people want to buy the game so it's really really exciting dad and Kia or something. Here's Kia which is like this certain type of furniture. Something that'd be crazy furniture that breaks. It's just the Nokia craft some more. So sorry does the furniture you craft break in the game. Are you sure you're not just GONNA wake up one morning and it's like oh the drawer won't go back in. It looks all just shovel. Oh the leg kind of twisted around and now it's crooked be hilarious if they had updated it so that anything you craft could break. Oh we're missing a hardware piece throw in my head so it's crazy. Yeah I think but I think Nintendo is GonNa WanNa make people have as much creative tools with this game as possible because like I said it's already so impressive. What people have done already with the game so I'm I'm really really really looking forward to it But Yeah so. This is kind of like our little animal crossing rant here. We're going to have more episodes inside this podcast studio here on Raffle or Raphael. Not really sure how they pronounce it. 'cause I've only ever heard it pronounced in Japanese which you know admittedly doesn't sound anything like Raffle so Yeah we're GONNA have tons of new episodes in. This is the new youtube format until we have our own podcast studio in real life with cameras and lights and all kinds of crazy. Good stuff so you guys can. Of course find us on your typical podcast platform and of course now you can find us consistently on Youtube every Thursday every Thursday morning. Check in and see what we're up to You guys can rely on us being there so until next time. Keep on keeping on Cam. Do you want to say anything else? It is Merry Z. Guys in the next episode one

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Bowl Game Picks + NFL Week 17 Bets: Clemson vs Ohio State, Oklahoma vs LSU, San Francisco at Seattle

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Bowl Game Picks + NFL Week 17 Bets: Clemson vs Ohio State, Oklahoma vs LSU, San Francisco at Seattle

"Along that thou board with those Right I bet you twenty bucks I can get. You can't look for the end of the day illnesses grand how they pay debts men his the money. It's the board podcast originally the end right back where I and I can still pick winners. I can still make money for all kinds of people back home and why mess up a good thing airs pain insider and todd the board podcast powered by Fox bet. NFL Week. Seventeen the culmination of the regular season some of the biggest bowl games on the docket. We've got you covered every which way around holiday football I am your host Todd Berman joint as always by my steam colleague coast the one the only pain insider which is a good word. Not Much my friend I have to ask you. Did you survive holiday festivities. It was not bad not bad at at all. Yeah didn't do much drinking a little a little bit disappointing. Yeah I don't know four drinks the last three we days so nothing nothing too crazy to on Christmas Eve. And that's about it then. It was a mad scramble to prepare awesome content for the fine folks in our listeners. Here get them prepared with some bull action on the biggest games and a couple of the NFL week. Seventeen Games that have some meaning here. We are having grown accustomed to you drink and white Russians or your Tito's and soda with your seven Ice Cubes and you come on this podcast and tell us you had a grand total of four drinks drinks during this holiday. Hiatus Newman not gonna live close to drink an entire bottle of Tito's myself after watching. BYU's play calling late in the game. But I digress completely on Christmas Eve festivities here not quite the same may have to get your opinion on a gambling related movie review. But we can get to that later in the show. I I think at this point pain. Maybe we just jump right in and start with the college football semifinals. That'll be kicking off on Ernest on Saturday. Do Man they got here. Quick they and and college football of course regular season ends with felt like a week later with the additional by not quite the same layoff as we've grown accustomed to with the schedule slip up starting on December twenty eighth and Lsu. Oklahoma will be the first game of the day. You're looking at Lsu right now a thirteen and a half point favorite at Fox. Total on the game at seventy six paying when you look at some of these games. I think there's always one big story line whether it's the NFL Games will get to where the College Football Bowl Games. And while. I don't want to be captain obvious. I feel you have to be on this game and the question. You need to ask yourself as you handicapped. This does Oklahoma have the players. Or what do they need to do. Whether it's a defensive scheme standpoint or running running plays offensively take time off on the clock to slow down this high powered. LSU offense led by Heisman trophy winner. Joe Borough everyone knows Lavelle grinch and we applauded that higher. We called it a Grand Slam. We've probably been as big as supporters fans to this point. I think and if you just kind kind of look at that defense overall grinches completely changed everything and it's with virtually the same exact players that season ago hasn't even recruit his own guys yet look in Oklahoma. They've gone from eighty fourth indefens- efficiency to thirty six in terms of success rate Oklahoma's improved from one hundred nineteenth to the thirty first in. That is really thanks to Alex Gretchen. Getting guys to buy in and for sooners fans like you have to be ecstatic. You have two of the very best young coaches in the entire our country but to me like you're not stopping. Lsu right if Georgia's defense couldn't hold Lsu down. I don't think home is going to and if you look at Baylor in the championship game called off the bench. The second and third string quarterback come in they hit five. Explosive passes the final thirty two minutes of the game. Like I just don't see a situation where you're stopping Ping jober on that pass attack now your best pass. Rusher is outright running. Perkins's suspended he was responsible for twenty negative. Stops this season. Behind the line of scrimmage. So so you may catch a break. If Edwards Hilar- doesn't go and there's been talks about not trotting him out there if he's not one hundred percent. So maybe that's the break that that the sooners need right grinch can then kind of cheat another guy into coverage help things out. That didn't work for Georgia either so to me. It may seem obvious Oklahoma needs to slow LSU down. I just don't think that can happen. I think the largest factor in this game involves the sooners offense jalen hurts and Lincoln Riley Riley have to score enough to keep pace here and when you have a total or a A spread this large rather. That's all you're looking for. You gotTA score enough to keep this game close. I think it's a big test for Riley and hurts. I think this is probably the best Defense Oklahoma's face it's the season talent wise the production starting to show for Lsu in meet that talent expectation. There's a couple positives you have Lincoln Riley with added time time to prepare. That's always going to be a bonus and then you get Jalen hurts and his familiarity of facing Dave Arandas defense insisting he's faced prepared for it a couple times at Alabama. I think he's face probably better. ITERATIONS OF VERANDAS defense in hurts face those Lsu defense is when he probably wasn't as developed as a passer so to me he. When I look at this I think you're going to need to hit some explosive place? And that's to me when I look at this. Some of the Tigers defensive deficiencies efficiencies are allowing place their forty first in the country and explosive pass defense. If you look at hurts is probably gonNA shock some people because there's no doubt he struggles throwing the ball on time Consistently still but one of his strengths. This season have been deep passing. He's fourth this season in yards per attempt on deep throws when he does take the shots and he's been very good not putting the ball in harms. Way thing the other thing that you look at here todd and we've kind of pounded the table a little bit when you attack Gal issues defense. It's gotTa be through the air over the middle of the field. LSU's allowed over seventy percent completions to the middle of the field. So whether you're staring at the metrics or the tape Lsu as you is not like filled that void that was left by Devon White and as bad as Jake from was in the SEC. Championship game missing. Wide Open. Receivers start the game which would have completely changed the complexion collection of that game. Go back to when he did find success virtually all when he's attempting passes over the middle of field. I think the other thing that's important born here for the sooners to keep pace is not just the scripted runs for hurts but when things break down he's got to be able to create a little bit with his legs. Use some of those attributes. And if you look at Lsu some of the tougher games they've played in or the Games where the Tigers Defense has been a little vulnerable jeans. quarterbacks exit can run etlinger. Did very well plumlee comes to mind and if you look at hurts. Averaging eight point six yards on scrambles so I think he's got to be able to. Improvise is a little bit as well when things go a little awry. I don't know if we want to talk about the number 'cause that can kind of be a little so confusing and a little difficult to navigate. I think there's a lot of variance with this game if you look me. Look at the sheet here our our full season metrics make this game nine point nine which is kind of word open at some shops. You saw a lot of the books out here in the desert actually use a nine and a half or ten and and that thing took off pretty quickly one thing that we ensure. We'll talk about some of these games. You never know what the true position is folks just realize hey looked at numbers not gonNA last. I'll lay the nine and the half ten and I'll figure out what to do with it closer to kick off right but if you look at trending metrics and we encourage everyone to do that. We make this game well over two touchdowns and it's because of the improvement that we've seen from the defensive side of the ball for Lsu coach came came out about a month ago and said that he dave Aranda would get this thing figured out on defense and then poof it kind of happened and if you look at LSU defensive at forty four yards of offense on the I thirty four snaps against Jimbo. Fisher's ain't offense they follow that up in the SEC championship game against Georgia Lsu held the bulldogs to a twenty nine percent percents success rates thirteen percent below the national average so if L. issues defense blaze like. He did the last two games. This could be an absolute route but if they kind of regress Gresh to what they were. The middle part of the season early part of the season in Lincoln Riley comes up with something creative with the added time in hurts his locked in. and Oh you hit. Some explosive plays Blazin attacks. The middle of the field. They could probably keep this within the number because again the full season metrics indicate the lines a little high trending metrics indicate lines of touch. Slow when you look at a game like this. And I know we'll get to it for the next semifinal between Ohio state and Clemson so I feel like it's a logical segue. What kind of emphasis pain you put on? The experience factor actor knowing that Oklahoma has been here done. That jalen hurts is a quarterback that's performed on this big stage. I'm not gonNA discount anything. LSU accomplish this Joe Borough exceeded everyone's wildest expectations agent but this Lsu team has not played a game of this magnitude with so much pressure on them arguably all season long. What an Alabama as an underdog won that game outright the SEC championship unshipped? Let's not kid ourselves. LSU lost football game. They were still going to get into the college. Football playoff does that factor into the handicap at all in this spot knowing that Oklahoma has been here they performed on this stage. Haven't won a game in the College Football playoff but we'll be in this particular atmosphere. Yeah I think that's the big thing. They haven't shown they've been able to win this game when they step up in class and it kind of depicts. Everyone's notions that the big twelve probably isn't the best conference and and when you step up and play teams that do play a little defense. Things haven't gone overly well but to your point this is Jalen hurts. A guy who's comfortable in this situation is willing to step in kind of absorb these big moments in play his very best and I think that's the one angle that initially Drew my attention to this game a little bit. It's like hey he's not that the moment isn't going to be too big and what he sees here from Dave Ran. His defense isn't gonNA be shocking to because he seen gene and he's prepared for it multiple times at Alabama so there is a slight edge there in my mind but again I don't think this is a situation where we're talking talking and I hate to say this. We're Oklahoma has a realistic shot to win. The Game Matt leave they have a shot to potentially keep this within the number if the Offense can go I. I don't think their defense is going to do much I really don't. It'll definitely be a real challenge. We'll see what. LSU's offensive Game Pie. Looks like you mentioned in the injury to quiet. Edward Salerno running backs theoretically in college football or diamond dozen but I think Lsu game plan will change and you never know them. Throwing it against the Oklahoma secondary could be a blessing in undisguised. They're going to score points. Bunches enforce the sooners really to abandon the ground game that they become so reliant on all over the latter half of the schedule so if that's that's any final is a big game I'll call it the appetizer for the main course on Saturday night. Where Ohio State takes on Clemson and a lot of other years? We could be talking about a game of this magnitude. Being worthy the of national championship we mentioned experience versus inexperienced talent. What have you and this game? The perfect illustration example Justin fields leads the Ohio. State Buckeyes in fifty total touchdowns this year forty touchdowns passing one interception against Trevor Lawrence. Who has played a game of this magnitude exceeded everybody's expectations and he's at arguably arguably the hottest hand in all of college football since the first quarter of the Louisville Game Brent Venables defensively? We know he can scheme with the best of them but of course the big story line around this game pain is the knee injury just fields. He's been pretty open and honest saying he's not worry wants to be describing that appendages about eighty to eighty five percent might not be the recipe. Ask for success. If they're going to have to use him as a tool threat quarterback to put some pressure on this clemson defense. What the Hell's going on with the year two thousand nineteen? It's almost over so I don't know if that's a good thing. God thank God. It's been a rough year but like what's with all the open an honesty and in dialogue like Dak in Dallas and be like. Hey that's something we should probably scrub to tell the opposing team. Exactly how beat up an injured and we are. That goes very well see I. I wonder in the back of my mind by doing this for draft purposes. Like if he doesn't show well here late. Exactly it gives you that built in excuse without coming out and saying much because Dak Prescott never told us he was injured. The cowboys came out and told you he was injured for the regular season finale and then when Dak was asked after the game if the shoulder injury was the reason that he struggled he said not enough nothing to do with my struggles so in his makeup. Yeah optically you look like you're accountable but at the same time. Hey look. Here's the story line. We're going to plant that seed in case something goes wrong but if it does it will sweep it under the rug. Interesting approach each. And he's not a guy that can even is even eligible to come out so it's like I don't know which is very odd to me. I would never show my hand in games like this. You you made some good points and I think you hit hit it right on the head. visit the key factor in this game is what Ohio state can do offensively and we talked a little bit about this off air there. Is that interesting chess match between two familiar faces. Right Brent Venables Kevin Wilson two guys at spent multiple years together at Oklahoma going going against each other every single day at practice. And kind of what's funny here right. Kevin Wilson probably isn't the Buckeyes. Oc Right now. If not for Brent Venables right if Brennan Villes doesn't like go out there air and shut out. Ohio state in two thousand Sixteen Wilson's probably not coaching this game. So it's amazing to see these things unfold a little bit over time. I'm anxiously waiting to see what Clemson's defense looks like against lead offense if you look CLEMSON's defense has faced teams with an average offense efficiency agency ranking of sixty third and by our metrics they have not faced a single offense inside the top thirty and efficiency this season so you just wonder if it's a little shocked shocked to their system will the issues that we thought coming into the season about replacing all this. NFL talent along the defensive line. Will that finally show up in a game. Like vis Ohio state offensive line is as good as it gets running the ball and creating space for its backs. Ohio state has to be able to run here and and you look at just how good that aligns Ben is dominant is the Ben is run blockers third in the country in line yards. They don't allow Dobbins and company and kind of get touched. You know in the backfield. The very often just thirteen percent of runs have been stuffed Ohio state in their ability to run the ball. Forty nine percent of runs of great successful. Asheville you remove sack yardage and that's important to do obviously especially when you have a mobile quarterback who could be losing some yards. Behind the line of scrimmage more frequently Ohio state average average is six point three yards per rush when you exclude that sack yardage Dobbins. He's talked about it. All you know all season long shed some weight. He sheds body fat. It's helped Ohio state now explosive in the run game eight in the country there but to me why this is so vital as good as just in fields is ben as crazy as throwing the ball. He's been really accurate third in the country and accuracy on balls ten or more yards in the air. He's not one hundred percent healthy but we lead with at the top. It came out yesterday. said he's eighty percent. He's never played in a game. This big to your point Brent. Venables is a guy that literally plays three different styles of defense. You've you've done reading the Center for Ohio States talked about how this game is basically all on him and he's been spending extra time diagnosing. What could come at him? Because it's one of if the trickiest defenses he's ever prepared for so just venables always makes you think and wonder about what's potentially coming and fields a still working on I'm reading the field and inconsistently getting to a second and third progression so to me. The buckeyes ground game has to alleviate some of that pressure and additionally when you dig into to some of these metrics and I gotta tell you. It's very tough looking at metrics in a game like this because when you pair these two team side-by-side like Jesus Christ they're good at everything. Where's the the answer so it does become a little bit about? What have you seen throughout the course this season whereas where these guys been a little vulnerable? What's kind of given them trouble trouble in some of these games and to me? Where the Buckeyes? Oh line is weakest. It's in pass protection outside. The top one hundred sack raid allowed outside outside the top one hundred in Sacra loud unknown passing situation so Dobbins in the ground game have to be efficient enough to keep both the run and pass viable. I think not allow venables to get extremely creative. Fields could get confused and known passing situations. So it's all about Dobbins in that ground game getting going here yeah. I'm very curious to see what Justin stanfield looks like. And you can alleviate a lot of those concerns or you put a little more fear and Clemson if you come out and and utilize the design right off the bat you watch Clemson and the ACC championship game. I know what the final score said but Brian Perkins had some success especially on the opening drive and throughout the course of that football game and we know. Virginia doesn't post nearly the Bevy of playmakers that Ohio stato bring to the table. So I'm very curious if there was anything that Kevin Wilson Ryan Dan Company could take away from that performance knowing they're gonNA see Clemson it's absolute best and for those folks that haven't seen Isaiah is. Am Simmons guys in Absolute Stud. This clemson defense is pain represented Brent Venables that gave up twenty points all season. It was in a narrow victory against North Carolina but other other than that has been absolutely flawless down the stretch one last thing paint on this game and we know about clemson their skill position talent on the offensive side. Do you feel Ohio. ACETATES defense is being a little bit undersold given some of the points. They gave up against Wisconsin in the big ten championship. And the fact that Patterson had so much success in the first half of the regular season finale alley. That would be the thing that scares me. Ohio state defending speed right. This isn't the big ten and when you look at some of the metrics for the Buckeyes buckeyes defensively. They've been one of the very best a lot of areas but they defend throws outside the Hash marks at a ridiculous level. But they're not. I used to seeing this. kind of speed with t higgins and company. That'll be a fun match up to watch on the outside can Ohio state handle the speed of the clemson receivers and the other thing that you have to factor factor in just a little bit. Jeff Half Ly- The buckeyes. DC accepted the Boston College job. Now it seems like Boston College kind of punted on actually attempting to recruit this season because it is the new early signing periods. Very difficult to have this change over in coaching staff. You basically just throw out that year. So he hasn't been doing as much as most new coaches like norville would be doing but he is pulling double duty Jeff halfway so that could be something to watch for here. Ken Ohio State handle the speed outside And if a you know I think people are GonNa have question marks. That'll be the narrative right of Ohio. State's defense doesn't perform former wolves. They have this season was Jeff. Athlete's focused as he possibly could have been tell you one thing. Ohio state post a couple of guys that are highly regarded by scout to the next level. So so if Jeffrey Khuda goes out there and lives up to the advanced billing that a lot of people haven't pegged as a top five pick he's gonNA earn that paycheck matched up against the CLEMSON. Receivers that you talked about that. I've NFL caliber. Talent be interesting to see Sean Wade out there as well. He was absent from the Michigan Game. And you really felt that when Michigan has some success throwing the football downfield in the first half credit credit to Ohio state in that game. We'll get to Michigan a little bit later. They did whole shape Patterson and just four of twenty four and football game in the second half after they made some adjustments. So should be a great game Saturday Saturday night. There's no doubt about it and I don't want to go out on the island and say this but I have to believe pain. Whoever comes out of that game will open as the favourite against Lsu? Barring some ridiculous circumstance of folding since we do public perception plays a major role in the semifinals and how it translates to the title game scenario. I would think so. You're probably you're probably spot on there so we'll Z.. We'll see we have there but two games and obviously two teams that will merge and play for the National Championship in a few short weeks. A couple of teams will be playing out their season. Finale one one of them in the Citrus Bowl Camping World Stadium in Orlando Florida. You're looking at Alabama right now. A seven point favorite Fox total on the game sits at fifty eight and the big story. Line here for Alabama will they or won't they and what do I mean there. Will they care to make a statement against coach Harbaugh and company. We haven't seen Alabama play in. What we we would define as I guess? A second tier ballgame since two thousand ten. The last time they were there they drug Michigan state forty nine seven but we have seen them stub their toe against Oklahoma and Utah Utah which did not have national championship. Implications were already seen it. A key. Number of defections for Alabama pain mainly on the defense side. Terrell Lewis in Tehran digs opting out of playing in the ball game. But I guess the question we ask ourselves for this game like we do in every other bowl game. How seriously does Alabama take this game knowing that? They're not going to be playing paying for National Championship. The First Time In College Football playoff era. Too good question. It's a tough one to answer. And this is where the information element kind of comes into play. These bowl games are a lot less about your your numbers You'll probably get slaughtered if if you're just simply looking at at numbers. Don't tell that to the math guys I just you know. Let's paint this picture of the right way. You know pro. Betters are going to be on Michigan at some point whether they go now or if they let it leak a little bit past the key and I think we're you know we're talking about this game first thing Thursday morning seven. Am Vegas time to me. The largest factor in this game could have some question marks. And you know. We've we've talked about this a lot. It's the speed will Michigan's defense be able to handle that will dombrowski around secondary be able to adjust you. Just ask yourself right with multiple Bama defenders already sitting out like you alluded to at the top will judi rugs and Smith all projected first round guys after consulting with families during Christmas. Decide that it's in their best interest in in their families to sit this thing out and they aren't looking at all the metrics right so in their mind. It's like backup quarterback throwing to them against a hard ball defense. Maybe they sit out. We'll see but right now at this moment we have to assume they're all playing and if that's the case I'm not sure Michigan Secondary. There's GonNa do here if you look at. The wolverines have given up some big place through the air. This season Dom Brown's evens fortieth in explosive. Pass defense they just. I haven't been able to recruit enough speed at a lot of key positions if you look. They're barely inside the top thirty and passing Success Rate A defense. And what makes this concerning those big play. Metrics passing defensive metrics nine of the twelve passing offenses fences. Michigan's face this season are outside the top sixty five and passing success rate explosive passing or both nine of twelve of opponents below average passing success rate explosive passing or both. And when you look at the one real tash that machines defense face that's on the same level love as Alabama's passing tax state and so you know we'll go back to it. We hear. The Justin Fields Cabo yesterday's only eighty percent healthy. That was the game. We're just in fields got got hurt early in that second half. I believe right. Ohio state was successful in forty six percent of their passes in known passing situations fields. Averaging nearly twelve Arjun attempt was successful on fifty three percents throws five explosive passes and just like a slew of other chunk passes. That's the Magic to watch. That's kind end of the match up. That's really scary. If you're backing Michigan here but if we have a less than focused Alabama squad which is completely realistic and multiple notable guys are sitting out on both sides of the ball if that comes to fruition with those receivers. I think there's probably value in Michigan. It seems to be if you do your reading team. That's extremely focused. They're sick of hearing. They can't beat good teams. All of the upperclassmen are specifically talking about how they've come together and they're not worrying about what's next. They're worried about this game. So certainly leads you to Michigan here. If you're reading the player quotes. If you're listening to to the player interviews the coaching interviews. It would kind of lend itself to Michigan here that they would have a real shot when you look at Michigan. They haven't exactly been the model of success. Success when it comes to the postseason last full win coming against Florida back in two thousand fifteen and it's a number of you're going to hear not only from us but you're gonNA hear leading up to kick off of this game as well on New Year's Day Jim harbaugh since taking over at Michigan has not won a game straight up when his team has been installed as an underdog oh and nine in that particular role just three and six against the spread. which for those reading at home or trying to decipher what the tea leaves are telling you anytime? They play a team with perceived more talent in the eyes of oddsmakers Michigan and fails to step up. Its game so it'll be very interesting to see how all of that worked real quickly on the other side of the ball pain Michigan from an offensive standpoint. I would think you have to be balance knowing it. Alabama appears to be a little bit more vulnerable against the run but this game probably falls on Shape Patterson looking for a bit of redemption against the Alabama team proving that he can beat need an SEC. Opponent sure yeah anytime you can be balanced. It's positive for your offense. I think you have to like what you saw in the first half against Ohio state but to your point they made some adjustments adjustments in things. Didn't go as well. You're going to need a ground attack here and Alabama shown throughout a couple times a season. They're vulnerable renewable defending the run. There's a couple guys out on the defensive side of the ball Along the defensive line. That's gotta be the key. Here get balanced balanced shape Patterson using play action. That's where he's been most effective as a passer. And those are your chances here. I think it's going to be interesting. Test to see if they can move the ball on the ground against Alabama. I think they should be able to do that. That opens up play action to me again. This comes down to does Alabama really really care. And they haven't shown that they have in games like this before it's beneath them so to speak. And if that's the case in Michigan Mrs Amphion as focused as they seem to be harbaugh may actually get a win. Straight up here would go a long way. Towards words endearing himself to the maize and blue faithful beating Alabama using it as a jumping off point for a twenty twenty season where we know high state ain't going away so Michigan's GonNa have to do everything they can in. And then some that continue closing that gap as they vie for that elusive big ten championship into the granddaddy of them. All and it's Wisconsin taking on Oregon in in Pasadena in the Rose Bowl. You're looking at Wisconsin. A three point favorite total on the game fifty one right now at Fox bet a pair of top ten scoring defense to do battle. There's a little bit of noise in some of those numbers. The badgers they've been extremely good in ballgames winners of five straight Paul Chris however his first trip to the Rose Bowl Justin in Herbert playing for Draft Status Oregon loses offensive coordinator. Marcus Arroyo taking the UNLV job. Don't get me started on all that pain when you look at somebody say that could be a possibility ability. One time I do. I do believe that was said it was broached in ultimately. That's what's unfolded interesting story. There and I don't know cares about. UNLV all sorts of speculation where the rebels will play their home games next year. A growing faction believes that they will not be playing most or all of them allegiance. Stadium that Sam Boyd will still be on the table. But that's a different discussion for a different day in terms of you. UNLV being the dumpster fire college football and it really young high school stadium might be generous. There's probably a lot of listeners. In the state of Texas. That would be embarrassed Paris if that was their high school stadium. Let's put it that way when when you look at this game pain. I think the big question. Everyone asked with Wisconsin. We know Jonathan Taylor and what he's capable of doing. We saw Oregon at absolute best against Utah. Playing the disrespect card can Oregon bring that same level of energy and effort to Pasadena Against Wisconsin. Tim that when they can't run it they really don't have a whole lot of other tricks up their sleeve to try and beat you at their spot on. And you hate oversimplify. Some of these games but the outcome mm-hmm is GonNa be largely predicated on what the Oregon Defense does to stop. Jonathan Taylor if you look at every single Wisconsin lost this season. John Taylor there is either held below his average rushing. Total or below the national average in rushing success rate. If you stop Jonathan Taylor puts you in a great position to win. We've talked about this Oregon in front seven. They're very dominant to start the season. It's why the ducks defense peaked. At number one in overall defense efficiency but as the season went on words Ziva kind of showed some vulnerability especially in the trenches and if you look in totality the ducks right now. Forty eight Than Rushing Success Rate Defense fiftieth breath and stuff right. They don't seem to win on standard downs as much as you would like. And on first down organs fifty I in the country and success rate allowed Philo. If you look at Wisconsin because they run the ball behind John Taylor Wisconsin's ninth in the country and I down success rate. So that's the key watched I down watch of John Taylor John Taylor. It is getting going on the ground. That's the key factor in this matchup. What becomes interesting though? If you think about who organ just played it could bode well L. here. Utah's physical. They run right ATCHOO. That's their style of offense if you can mentally prepare for this kind of game and you have the confidence in knowing you came out the bigger man so to speak in the PAC twelve championship. It's easier to go out there and replicate that and do it again or in defense held Utah to a thirty one percent rushing success success rate eleven percent below the national average if organ pulls off this small upset. It's because they went out again for the second game kind of out. Physical their opponent at the point of attack. Do you think there is some of that. Residual effect in a carry over. I mean it was interesting you read Mario. Cristobal is quotes leading up to that are coming out of that Utah Game. He's a quite frankly. I think maybe these guys all week long tired of hearing that they weren't the more physical football team made up their mind. They were gonNA establish the line of scrimmage and they did I mean that Game Essentially Utah drove on the opening opening drive the PAC twelve championship came up short on fourth and a yard or two and all of a sudden it was an oregon. Steamroll job that we saw in full effect when we look at Justin. Herbert should have some success. I would think against this badger secondary but was there any other matchup in the game other than Jonathan Taylor that you'll have your eyes peeled for that you try and watch and figure got an edge not not really. I think the biggest one we talked about is is going out there and being physical and stop in the ground game in kind to your point a a little bit. I think that success of being physical enough stop. Utah is a confidence builder right. You don't necessarily notes from in front of you but if the bully punches in the mouth and you get back off the document that wasn't so bad then you're gonNA chomping at the bit to go do it again. And so I think that's that's that's GonNa be the interesting part of this game is if you can slow down. Jonathan Taylor. I think it bodes very well. Wisconsin defensively. I think we believe there are a little bit overrated. Based on that early season schedule of offenses they played. I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE GONNA goes out and lights it up because I don't love their skill position Asian players they did do enough to create some space in the passing game against Utah. Once one of their key members of the Secondary Got Injured in the PAC twelve championship game. But I think the wrinkle here and we'll see if it comes to fruition again certainly Wisconsin. We'll have to prepare for it but it was just an herbert using his legs. And I think if you're GONNA and playing a game like this and the way you went out and played the PAC twelve championship game even though you could potentially be the second quarterback taken with the question marks to two. Let's see if they use Justin Herbert's legs again in this game. Let's see if they use a lot of that zone. Read with designed runs that can provide a different different little wrinkle for this Oregon offense that could maybe separate them a little bit here in this one delicate balance trying to figure out your draft stock and making insure you stay healthy going to the columbine for Justin Herbert versus closing out the career for the Eugene Oregon native with a Rose Bowl victory that I'm sure would help his legacy quite a bit. Given the fact that Oregon was essentially one poor game away from Arizona State for making an outside claim to getting into the college football plow from the afternoon into the NIGHTCAP gap down there in New Orleans where it's Baylor taking on Georgia and the Georgia bulldogs Ritz turning to the scene of the crime where they basically no showed last year against Texas. Losing outright is fourteen point joint-favourite this time Georgia find themselves installed as a six point favorite against the Baylor bears total in the game. Forty one at Fox and pain. You hate to ask this question but I think behalf to in a game like this could Georgia potentially no show the same way this year like they did last year being so close to getting into the College Football playoff in essentially falling flat. I'll when they ran into that freight train that was the LSU tigers in Atlanta. Think you certainly have to entertain that idea of of other. No show right considering one game away from the College Football playoff again and now you're going to this same bowl your season ago and for Baylor some will probably say hey you know with some help. They could have been in the college football playoffs as well. Why wouldn't it be a letdown for them after losing the big twelve championship? I don't think Baylor had championship aspirins coming into the season. This is still a program that was like one in eleven two seasons ago beating Georgia in the sugar bowl kind of puts that exclamation point on the season and carries that momentum forward I would think the next season. It's more than gist potential. That Georgia doesn't care what you see. Some of these guys sitting sitting out in you look at where those guys are sitting outright and where those guys are or against the positions nations. They play in how Georgia likes to operate. And how it's built. It's team this season. If you've read your your your articles right now. You're you're seeing that both. The left tackle in right tackle for Georgia are not playing in this game. They're moving onto the NFL. One of them is potentially top five. Pick you go one step further and one of the starting guards is academically eligible for this game. I don't know if George is going to be able to turn around and hand the ball off and kind of beat Baylor up in the trenches and we've kind of seen jake from at this point. He's ice cold cold right now. Is receiving options. Weren't great this year and now cager and blaylock are also this situation kind of just got worse so the idea of just like being able to turn it around and hand hand the ball off and rely on one of the best offensive line's now that they have three guys out could be a little bit more of a difficult task. And if you look right now the bulldogs align their best attribute is moving people around the trenches if you look at standard down line yards. Georgia's offense third in the country. It's why they've I've been very successful on early. Down Choices The bulldogs align when they're at full strength in their mulling people around there also good pass protection sixth sixth grade allowed. And why. That's obviously important. Because not only do you have cluster injuries along the offensive line. But if you look at where Baylor is defensively and where they've been most most improved this season under matt rule. It's defensive line. It's their front seven bailers. Twenty eighth right now. Online yards allowed sixteenth in stuff right more than twenty four percent. Percents the runs Baylor's defense face this season they've stuffed otter behind the line of scrimmage and then we're Baylor's defensive line is really stepped up. They're not able to get pressure on the quarterback top twenty in Sacramento so to me again biggest factor in this game that matchup in the trenches of Baylor's front seven and kind of take advantage of those three starters being out along the Georgia online by stuffing the bulldogs ground game. And then getting pressure on Jake Fromm on these known passing situations. Baylor has a chance to win this game. Outright ye also just again. You have to wonder when you're sitting out the three linemen and de'andre swift who's dealing with a shoulder injury. He's probably going to think about what's in his best interest to I run behind a makeshift online. Is that going to improve my draft stock. You only had two carries in the SEC championship game. Because the shoulders rumors started started to leak a little bit about him already turning pro then he came out backpedaled a little bit. Let's see if he even plays in this game but if you're able to stop that ground I'm game jake. FRAHM has not shown an ability over the back half of the season to beat you through the air especially with a receiving core. That's banged up. You will get some of the metrics trending stuff last half of the season Jake from has regressed to one of the bottom sixty in in quarterback passer rating. A just has not been very good down the stretch so again if you eliminate that ground game and if swift doesn't eventually play so tough match-up yeah you mentioned Jake Fromm over. The last five games failed to complete more than fifty percent of his passes in any of those football game not a ringing endorsement and you hope that from draft stock doesn't plummet limit too far. Maybe there's a possibility he would return or some team drafting potentially in the second or third round might be able to come away with a steel the draft knowing what was expected of from coming into into this season a lot of people talking about him heisman darkhorse or maybe even a front runner in some circles being a bona fide. First Round Pick but as you mentioned clearly depleted receiving core so some the things beyond his control from the college football ranks to the national football league. On Sundays. We wrap up the regular season. And there's one team well I guess I amongst many that control its own destiny. Only one playoff spot up for grabs that of course being the number one spot in the NFC East Philadelphia goes on the road to metlife stadium to take on the New York giants Philadelphia. A four point favorite at Fox bet total on this game forty four and a half. The Eagles over the last three weeks paying they've navigate through troubled waters with a heroic late game comeback against the giants and Monday night. Football followed it up with a late comeback against the redskins a dominant for more or less from start to finish against the Dallas cowboys. Last week dea worry at all about the letdown. Knowing that Daniel Jones and saquon Barkley looked as dynamic to some in in the Backfield as we've seen from the giants and of course Daniel Jones fresh with confidence knowing that he li- manning him and Eli Manning Flip Cup champions throughout Manhattan Flip Cup champions interesting you never. You never saw that video no not to send it to you him in what look to be the ultimate white FRAT party already so to speak in the. I don't know that describe it between Eli Manning and Daniel Jones dancing and playing Flip Cup in New York watering hole interesting. I don't believe bonding time. I don't believe after all the hard work last week. Philadelphia is going to know. Show here. I just don't know if they're very good. That would be the big question and to your point. I think it is on Daniel Jones. It it is on Saquon Barkley. But it's a lot to do with their offensive line. And that's what's GonNa make those two guys perform here. That matchup against Fletcher Cox. It's an eagles defensive front. They were fantastic. Last week. They ruled the Day Against Dallas D.. Line is we've kind of talked about is the eagles strength so if the giants are gonNA pull off this upset right and knock out their division. Rival of the playoffs has start up front line. I think has been an issue for multiple seasons now there have been. Some glimpses isn't some flashes of improvement but this needs to be the game. They put it all together. Play their very best from a rushing standpoint. There's lots of talk. This week about the align and saquon getting ninety plus yards on the ground that would give him a thousand so he could eclipse that thousand yard Mark Barkley says the guy's affront wanted. He came out after the record-setting day against Washington last week declared that he was finally one hundred percent healthy so I think that needs to be the approach. You're trying to get one hundred yards. I don't be discouraged right. Not everyone's going to grade successful not every runs gonNA great efficiently. The Eagles are very good at stopping. The run we know that fourth most efficient Russ defense in the NFL however they've given up chunks at times their eighteenth and explosive run defense. Saquon we know can hit that home run at any time so I just wouldn't be discouraged if you handed to them a couple of times and you don't do much. The second layer to this matchup I involves Daniel Jumps uh-huh. I think the giants ally needs to do a better job keeping him upright. The Eagles have not been as good getting pressure. This season as they were season ago. Fourteenth in pressuring but it just doesn't seem to matter if you look who Daniel Jones goes up against. I think a lot of it is him not able to figure out where the ball needs needs to go on time. Some of it at least but the heat's been on him this season. Daniel Jones has been pressure on forty two percent of his drawbacks. If you're going to exploit the eagles defense offense where they're most vulnerable. Sometimes against the past the explosive pass quarterbacks need time to execute that. If you look at Jim Schwartz style of defense. He likes to attack. He does leave his guys vulnerable a little bit in the back leads to the big play. You go back just a couple of weeks ago. He Li- doesn't really have down to down. Success thrown the ball just at twenty eight percent success rate through the air on that money football game but he hits three explosive passes two of which we're touchdowns touchdowns to Slayton so again. I don't think you WANNA get discouraged here. If you're not overly efficient just give Daniel Jones some time in the pocket. They hit a few of these big plays that can change the entire entire game so to me all about the giants online holding their own here. If they can this this this numbers probably touch on the other side of the ball Philadelphia dealing with a myriad of injuries most specifically to Zacher and some of his broken ribs we have seen miles. Sanders burst onto the scene and provide that dynamic playmaker that Philadelphia so coveted early in the year Philadelphia. Offensively against the giants defense doesn't post a lot of playmakers in its own right. How do you see that playing out? Come Sunday giants seemed to struggle with pre snap motion defensively. That's really what change in the second half of the Monday night or a few weeks back. Eagles started using pre snap. Motion really gave them some fits in the second half one thing that we kind of noted though in that game the giants ability to defend tight ends and running backs and that's why this match up becomes a little bit more interesting on the side of the ball. Giants defensively have been very good stopping the run and they've been very good stopping running back passes and tight end passes and that's really where the eagles live if you want to attack this giants team. It's their secondary especially with ginormous. Jenkins now moved on to New Orleans. That's where they struggle most so if there's those pass options out wide that's where Carson Wentz should attack arts you mentioned the rib did not practice. Yesterday I believe they actually didn't have practice yesterday. They're saying if they did he'd be extremely limited so let's see if he tries to give go. I don't know how effective he'll be. But you do have Dallas Goddard there obviously but that's the one area where the giants defense has been surprisingly good defending tight ends and backs and that's why this match up becomes very interesting. Because that's exactly where the Philadelphia Eagles offense likes to attack should be an interesting game Philadelphia. One step away from putting their ticket to the postseason but when you have divisional rival standing in front would love to try and play spoiler. We'll see what happens. And we know the giants have done it before in this particular role keeping the redskins out of the playoffs. A few seasons ago go speaking of divisional rivalries one that takes on obviously a lot less luster now paying knowing that Baltimore will be sitting number of its key contributors. They'll play host. The Pittsburgh Burke steelers the steelers a two point road favorite of Fox total in this game thirty seven and a half and I guess first things first. I have to ask you when it pertains to a game like this. How how much of that must win mentality is built into the number with books knowing? Hey look if you want to back to steelers here against the Ravens second teamers. We're GONNA make you pay a troop premium partly. I think obviously the the the key here is The slew of guys sitting out specifically Lamar Jackson in what his values to the point spread even last week. There was when you look at the look headlines I think books were anticipating that Lamar would be out In in this line was one most places and you think about what that means right one at home while they were laying three and a half on the highway at Pittsburgh so oh the line already kind of assumed Lamar would be out now. You're moving across zero to minus two. They're certainly that must-win element here. We're also still waiting to see who else is going to be out in this game and Mark Ingram obviously is out in this one. Earl Thomas out in this one Brandon Williams. We can talk about here briefly because he is a huge impact in this game. He'll be out for this one now. This isn't like the NBA. Were just kind of sit anybody you want. You only have seven spots to designate inactive. So you can't just rest the entire team. I know they had a couple other spots available. They're trying to figure out how they would use them. I think we'll probably know a little bit closer. Whether it'd be like Jimmy Smith or a guy like Mark Andrews even talked about about Peter's we'll see who they choose to designate as inactive here in addition to the four key Cox. Aw I think offensively that's the key matchup in this game we know Mason. Rudolph down to me in steeler fan won't and steelers fans won't agree. I don't think that's a positive to me now. Dow bold claim a marketing. This down about fifty minute mark of the week. Seventeen podcast chest. Pain giving an endorsement to duck. Hodges being the better starting quarterback Mason Rudolph. We'll see I don't necessarily whoever could be right right. It could be duck. Hodges WHO's out I don't really care just give the guy who you plan to start this game. The most important game of the season all the first team reps is this week. Last week was an absolute abortion splitting first team reps and people like Walt Mason. Rudolph was ready came in and fired the ball around. He was ready. No make him. You're starting quarterback if you believe he's the guy give him all the first team reps if you think he's the guy giving guys half ass raps who weren't used to a spot or situation like this need all the reps humanly possible shouldn't be splitting Reps. Find The guy you want. Go with them. They've been in your organization. Now you should know Mason Mason Rudolph sure guy or not you should know better than Doug Hodges or not. At this point you seem practice everyday last too goddamn years so I'll just play Paxton Lynch and call today I I just I just think this is at least a positive where you're not limiting dodges reps at practice. You're not putting fear in him where you're saying it could be a short leash here and he's he's you know Tomlin's divulging this to the entire world could be a short leash and then you see duck out there. Like short arming balls and not wanting to throw balls or make a mistake anyways I think the key here for the steelers offense in. OC Randy fichtner is to come up with a game plan that complements ducks walks attributes in his abilities. And that's not having throat thirty eight times against a good past events like buffalo or Illu taking precious naps away from them all week at practice actress and killing his confidence. If you look at the match up I think it's different than last week. The steelers have to find success on the ground. Here Baltimore even with guys out in the secondary still a top flight defense. I think against the pass below average against the run though. If you look on the season the ravens are seventeenth in defensive offensive rush efficiency. That's against below average schedule of run offenses. And the guy I mentioned at the top Brandon Williams he is the best run stuffing linemen the ravens have. He's resting in this game. He's missed three games. This season in those three games Baltimore's allowed fifty four percent of runs to great successful in the thirteen games that Williams played just forty six percent of runs great successful league average forty eight percent so williams turns this ravens defense into a well above average run stopping defense when he's in when he's out it's bottom five in the league. Roughly right around there so Pittsburgh I think has to be more physical upfront. Get the ground game going. Relieve some of that pressure from duck. Hodges having to be the Manzo to speak I would believe with that ground and pound attack for Pittsburgh and obviously isley Lamar Jackson and Mark Ingram out on offense. This number will probably continue to take a little lower in terms of the total thirty eight got nabbed this morning as limits admits rose and would not be shocked to see it. Go below the key of thirty-seven steelers. They've gone six straight games without throwing for more than two hundred yards. They've only gained more than three hundred yards twice in the last eight weeks. They've scored multiple offensive touchdowns once in a game since Halloween and the six six rushing touchdowns. They currently have all season. Long would be a franchise low. They need at least two in the finale to avoid record-setting futility. We talked about some of the Ravens. His pain that might not be out there. One last thing in this game for the steelers we know pouncey will be out James. Connor appears to be a game time. Decision Juju Smith Schuster nowhere near one hundred percent. I guess it's next man up mentality for the steelers to try and granddaughter. Victory here has been all season at this point. And you hate to crap on Tomlin at this point because is of what he's done with this makeshift team and specifically the offense He's really shouldn't even be in a position like this honestly But you have to get that. I figured out yet whether it's Jalen Samuels whether it's Benny Snell You have to be more physical at the point of attack to win this game and then defensively you know the key is getting pressure on. Rg Three see if he can handle that so Certainly there is not a ton of value in the number. This is always like the debate right. Pittsburgh could go on win this game by double digits but when you're entering the market they're certainly not a lot of value. Sitting here Pittsburgh the value side would potentially be in. We'll probably see it if it gets to three. We'll probably have some some buyback on Baltimore to win a game by double digits Pittsburgh to score double digits which remains the biggest lasting question question. When you handicapped this game? Three throws him he never know. Rg three could be good for a pick six along the way we'll see if he can be as dynamic running running threat. Is Lamar running miserable. Trust me I am well aware of such having watched lumber around out there especially during preseason games injury he's revitalized. The career is getting a paycheck into the nightcap where the forty niners and seahawks will do battle the NFC NFC west Crown on the line and we know Seattle has become an absolute mash unit. Anybody who can look at the number understands exactly what we're saying here knowing that the forty niners are three three and a half point road favorite total on the game forty seven at Fox. And it's I don't know what you WANNA call it. Turn back that clock daylight. Your old baseball cards hard veterans day. But if you're going to marshawn Lynch and Robert Turbin to lead your offense. It's not exactly a ringing endorsement for Seattle's ability a stabbing a ground and pound attack knowing that. Cj prosise done for the year Rashad Penny done for the year and Chris Carson as well their primary Belco last time marshawn Lynch saw live live action October of two thousand eighteen versus. There's very same seahawks and pain. We talk about it all the time. Some teams can adjust based on their game. Plan if you lose a running back but you only fifteen times no big deal but a little bit different for Seattle team. That's third and attempts per game. Forty six percent of their offensive snaps in the ground third in rushing yards per game and tied for third in ten plus yard Russia's a game at a shade under four. I'm not even sure where you want to try. And take this game and begin assessing what the seahawks will be able to do with your stop San Francisco or or move the football against the niners defense. The last time I saw marshawn Lynch he was. He's never been a snowman. Oh man that would that would be one hundred percents one hundred dollars Burger and it looked like he was forty pounds overweight so so I'm not sure the impact is going to have these tough runner right. He's like one of those just like dudes at this stage. What I'm going to say is why hi this line has already moved right? Pinnacle went to three and a half this morning off the key. San Francisco certainly doesn't and I'm coming back to this doesn't have value at this number right numbers wise but may not matter and after what we saw last week against Arizona. I'm not sure Seattle can fix. What ails them right now? I'm not sure how the offensive heads of lied is going to hold up here. We Know San Francisco one of the very best in the league and creating pressure fourth-best Seattle's online has great out thirty first in pass blocking twenty six and adjust. It's accurate allowed aside from the obvious right. The grits Carson Reshad Penny out. Think about what that means. You'd you'd love to establish ground game and make San Francisco's defense respect balance. Now you have all these back of running backs if that's going to be the case and I think this likely decides the game Seattle's offensive line isn't good to begin with now. They're starting left. Tackle Duane Brown is out. He's having his meniscus trimmed. He's going to be out a few games on top of that. The starting being center Joey Hunt. Who's actually backup center? Filling in for a previous injury hasn't practice yet this week. Right Guard mei-chieh Potty hasn't practice shut this week week. Let's see what those guys do if they're at practice today tomorrow if you look at the first go round in week ten Russ was sacked. Five Times he was held the four point nine yards yards per pass attempt. Just two explosive passes didn't have any time in the pocket. He was picked off once. That was the healthy line and running backs and his great is Wilson is. He's he's the magic man I can pull a rabbit out of the hat so to speak. I just think the pressure San Francisco's can be able to bring in. This game is too much to overcome. I'm here and that's that's really the one key factor. That's really the matchup if Arizona's getting pressure on your quarterback and not allowing him to operate the offense and this must win situation I hate to use that but it allows you to know that. San Francisco's defense is going to be bought in here. Their defensive lines probably GONNA and have a field day and if they do the number might not matter. You'd have to think that not only were their defense have a field day. That San Francisco's offense should have plenty of success. Moving moving the football as well against the Seattle defense that may get a couple of key contributors back but at the same time they're going to be nowhere close to one hundred percent and we know that Seattle from a defensive offensive standpoint hasn't exactly been stalwarts they've allow twenty plus points in seventy eight games. They allow more points per game pain than any team. Currently slated related to be in this year's postseason. It's one of the more disappointing defenses again right up there with Dallas. They're trending metrics have been absolutely horrific Digs digs gave them a burst of energy in life. Initially on the trait now. He's beat up in play last week. Wagner's dealing with some injuries. We know clown he's been dealing with some injuries it's just a really beat up. Defense right now Griffin mistime last week as well. Hopefully some of these guys get a little healthier earlier but they certainly won't be playing one hundred percent if theory actually able to get out there and grit this one out. So that's that's the K.. There and also have to get stops and and when you think about where are key factor is that becomes huge if San Francisco can get out to elite because then it forces Seattle Seattle to half the pass. And I think they'll probably get chewed up if your Back they're attempting to drop Ross back and there is no threat of ground game. This is one of those games where I think if you're looking at live wagering of Seattle's able to keep it close. Maybe you find some value on that side of San Francisco gets gets out as great as Russ's playing from come from behind mode. I don't know if that's GonNa Work here Russ better be ready and willing to play twenty two positions both on the offensive and defensive side for Seattle. They have more than you're gonNA know pretty early. If San Francisco gets a couple of quick scores and Seattle's forced to play come from behind with that offensive line In that forty dollars pass rush could could could not bode well. You always wish for more drama and intrigue when it comes to the culmination of the NFL regular season. We know plenty of seating spots still hanging in the balance but for the most part playoff fields are set the NFC we know the six combatants there the AFC. We know five of the six. The Tennessee Titans will be able to control their own destiny with a game against the Houston Texans one. We're still not sure we're Bill O'Brien will he or won't he play his starter against the division rival five college games three. NFL Games all broken down better than we could ever hope but there is still finally one order of business and that of course is the best. The best brought to you. 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Let's go with Tennessean Indiana over fifty one and a half at seems to be the consensus number out there Fifty one. What is a key? Fifty two is a key so getting on the good side of that should be the goal so fifty one and a half check the weather. It looks clear for next Thursday by by what I'm seeing now. Obviously IT'S A. It's a week ahead of time. There should be some early week rain but nothing nothing in two major there. I like Indiana's offense. We've felt their offense is better than the rest of the market all season long. We have them grade top. Fifteen offense efficiency. Tennessee's disease offense starting to A little bit down the stretch. They figured out some things on that side of the ball so I think this is a sneaky over here here and I know we talked a little bit off. Air Tennessee's games against number have been going under but they really haven't been playing anybody offensively. This is a real test for Tennessee. Their last four opponents pain. Uab Kentucky Missouri in Vanderbilt. I'm not sure any of those teams can throw a forward pass right. And you're looking at Tennessee. I I know defensive head coach defensive-minded that really hasn't what's turned Tennessee around the season. It's been the offensive side of the football. You're still looking at a volunteer volunteer on tears. Defense outside the top sixty and passing success rate defense I think Indiana's able to move the ball here through the pretty successfully knocking argue with you. I think both these teams should be able to do what they want through the air. Both Mitchell and some vulnerabilities in the secondary and I think this is the primary station like we talk about. Hey One team looks a lot better on paper. And we know which direction they're trending but when you look at the strength of opponent I mean Kentucky runs the football. Uab Hey we know what the blazers can and can't do they stepped up in class can do much Missouri. They had an ailing Kelly. Brian Vanderbilt was just out there to finish out the season so I think you're going to have inspired Indiana team looking for a win. They know they are not going to be able to run the ball. Ninety seven percent of the time and I don't think the Volvo shy away from throwing in Indiana Secondary. Either totally concur. So let's go over in the gator bowl fifty one and a half. We also have an announcement in that. Is the VIR get married. No that the announcement Nada. No no that's you coming soon. Now I heard you experienced Christmas yesterday yesterday for the very first time we did SRI and grabbed the present. Ob Did partake in the family festivities. Second year running. have been at the Christmas Suare. Suare welcome you with open arms. Like take advantage of the prime rib the LASAGNA and all the other Great Christmas traditions. As you all know especially make fun enemy we wouldn't be willing. We went Manicotti Christmas. Matt Yelling Christmas men. 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Russell Westbrook-John Wall trade, LeBron + AD contract extensions, Steelers/Ravens recap

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Russell Westbrook-John Wall trade, LeBron + AD contract extensions, Steelers/Ravens recap

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I think it surprised a lot of people but should it have the westberg. Harden duo didn't work and so now ross joins his third team in as many seasons for john wall hasn't played since december twenty six twenty eighteen almost two years ago so a chance for a fresh start for him is hardened running mate now. Let's the reaction begin. Nick who are the winners and losers of history part. I'm gonna have. I think in unpopular and certainly out of the mainstream opinion on this. I actually liked this trade for both teams. I think both teams were. They knew where we are right now. We're kind of stuck the wizards needed to hand the car keys to bradley beal and they understood john. Wall has literally not a day in his basketball life. Played a game where he wasn't the leader in best player on a team so coming from the achilles two years removed when beal is just coming off a near all nba season. We're averaged thirty points a game. It needed to be his team. His being bradley beal's and that's tough. When john wall who had always been the big brother figure in that relationship comes back and says hey before i pop my achilles heel surgery. I wasn't all mba caliber player myself. So they needed to make this move. And for the rockets they had to shake the snow globe once again as they go through rotating list of guys who once upon a time. We're top ten players in the league to see if they can fit alongside james harden. Dwight howard didn't fit didn't like it that much chris. Paul actually really did fit. They almost wanna championship. But that relationship soured russell westbrook. It took a year and it's like love each other out maybe barbecue. Together post govind but we shouldn't playing together so now they take on john wall. And i think the rockets will be interesting. They added christian. Would we'll see what will looks like. Boasted gillies and the wizards they already have the fastest player in the league smith. They drafted dinnie up. Who could have gone second in the draft going. They bring back birds. We mentioned bills coming off his best season and russ before the stoppage was playing. Good basketball so brandon. Neither of these are championship teams. I do believe they are not firmly playoff teams and i like it for both both sides. There you go you sit there there. No contender this is comical nick when this came out i'm like why when i see superstar athletes getting shocked or trade. It and moves like this happen. The first thing i think about. How does it make the team better to win a championship. This is a lose lose situation. It's a simple wash like look at this now houston rockets. They're stuck with john wallace. He ballsy doesn't ball but you're stuck with them for three years. Guaranteed team better. I just don't see. I don't understand it maybe russ and bills a better fit then then bill in wall but how does this make you better now. I can get a player. Let's let's look at it from a player's perspective. I can understand a player going to losing situation or a situation where you're not going to win or you don't you feel like you're not that last piece to make that teen better and put them in contention so when you look at this from a player's perspective if a guy you know he. He hasn't signed that big deal while any has his money. He doesn't have his money to understand going to a losing situation. But if you have your money already to both of these guys signed huge contracts what. Why does this make sense for you john wall. How does it make sense for you. Russ how does this make sense for you so while i don't understand that think it's comical. It's a wash to me. It's a lose lose situation. Why think russ wanted to just get out of houston in trying to debate whether or not. He's a perfect fit with bradley. Beal is like debating whether the door that you're clinging onto as the titanic goes down is comfortable enough doesn't really matter. Just get out and stay afloat now. He's on a playoff team. Reunited with scott brooks nick and more than anything. We know he can't shoot. We know he's not the most efficient guy in the world. But he brings a certain as broussard's say doggedness to the squad of like a winning culture and just like full speed ahead. All the time that i think would make bradley. Beal a better player. Well let me respond to something. Brandon said which is. Why would either one of these guys want it if they're not going to be able to compete for championship. Listen a ross. Is one of my favorite players ever. And i like john wall a lot as what he's done the community in dc. I think he's been unfairly maligned at times and a healthy john wall people forget his last full healthy season. They not only one forty nine games. They won around in the playoffs and they win seven against boston. And around two wall average like twenty seven and eleven in that series. If i remember correctly he wasn't really good player pre injury. We'll see what he has post injury. I sale that to say this though. There is no championship team. That is trading russ or wall not at their age injury status in contract they. It is impossible for those guys right now to get to a contender because a contender is not trading for one of those guys and so i think at this point for russian wall on their current deals. It's trying to make the best of what could be mediocre situations for wall. He'll get a change of scenery for the first time. Ever and barossa. You'll get to see if it works with bradley. Beal and scott reunited scott roaches wild mentioned. Janet what this means though for james harden for a second heart was rumored to be on the trade block all off season a report yesterday. The rockets do not envision trading him before the season. Now they're gonna stick it out. Try to make a work. Try to win with him. There obviously now with john wall. So nick what is this. Trade mean for hardens teacher. The rockets are not trading james harden before the start of the season. Maybe they trade him at the deadline if it goes bad. But do you know the only all-star caliber player that's been in the playoffs that's played in the playoffs every year. The last eight. it's hard. It's a since he went to the rockets. He's been in the playoffs every single year. He's the only guy in the league. They can say that my guy. Lebron can't even say that janas can't say that katie. Say that it's just hard. So they're going to be a playoff team and they are going to try to make this work brandon now if it gets real bad. If they're playing terribly could he be moved at the deadline. Possibly but you are going. Once you saw that drew holiday was worth a generation of first round picks and players then the price of the brick went up so to speak to quote the great marlow from the wire. So listen if you want. James harden you're going to have to pay a hell of a lot more than a team like. The nets is capable of paying brandon. And i don't believe it's happening any chance whatsoever. It happens before the start of the season. Okay so nick. Let's say that. James are in He's still on that team. When a season and a couple of days a couple of weeks all right i think they find themselves in an amazing situation in organization. But it's still terrible for the player a this potentially now both of these guys are ball dominant. They dominate the basketball. But i feel like the chain of command is just different here. The russ verney the russ in hardin relationship. It's like who gets the last word in the locker room. Who takes the last shot if our team is down by fifteen in his time for the superstar player to take over. Who does that. Who dominates the ball right. But now you look at this situation kevin. You got hard and everybody. Notices teen people already knew was horton's team exude this is. This is a superstar. This is all star. So i think this could potentially wars actor kevin you. Nick are budding continues to neglect the players perspective. James harden wants out. This isn't john wall. This isn't russell westbrook hussein. Just wanna find a little better situation. I don't think a playoff team or contender. Excuse me we'll trade for me right well. James harden wants to win. He has his money the same thing i just talked about. He has his money he wants to win. He wants out so he can force his way out. And i think it gets really ugly no matter if they're in a situation which i think they will be before the trade deadline or not look would to get really ugly for him to leave but he should want to leave thirty one years old nick. He's not getting any younger. That championship window is closing. I think he looks around the west on. Do we get better. We got john wall in boogie cousins. This was cool like four years ago but not right now and by the way he's basically already on a new team it's got a new owner a new gm. He's got a new coach got new teammates. And he's got new offense scheme so he's basically pain but he's just got the same uniform on so i might as well go to a new team if i'm gonna be on a new team correct but he also has to guaranteed years left on his deal before a player option so the new gm in houston rafael stone. Hard and says. Hey congrats on the john wall trade but to quote the great magic johnson. I gonna be here if rafael stone says all right. I got great news for you. We drink team's going to include a young star a team's going to include a boatload of picks. I hope you enjoy looking at the real estate in sacramento. Because we've worked it out that's the only trade that meets arnie. Do you wanna go there or you want to see how you wall workout. Because he does have the ability to force his way out. He does not have the ability to pick his destination and while houston might not be perfect. It is not the barren desert of a handful of places houston could send james harden to for a team that would say i would love to have james harden. We'd love to be the seventh seed and guy that scored thirty five championships. Be damned. So i do think houston has the leverage in that regard gin and i think they will see this. Pairing can possibly work. I wish we had ten more minutes on we got. We ought to learn minutes on this topic. Funny you should say that we gotta take a turn. Toxins steelers now big. Win yesterday over the ravens. Not a pretty one still a big one. Is they remain undefeated. Mike tomlin knows how badly they played. Take a listen mike You had Some sir red zone failures and a number of drop pass as the with. You attribute that to anything in particular sucky. Hey first things first listeners. It's charlotte wilder here to tell you about my new podcast. It's mark titus called the people's sports. Podcast it comes out every thursday and mark and i take one of the big stories of the week and then we go off on tangents. You never saw coming. This might mean that we start talking about the dodgers winning the world series and end up wondering if knicks fans deserve happiness or begin with lebron's greatness and end up drafting. Our ultimate beer league softball team made up of old athletes whatever. It is the only rule of the shows that it has to be fun and funny because these days we all use as many lives as we can get so. Check it out wherever you get your podcasts. And come down weird sports rabbit holes with us. We can't wait to have you now back to first things first back here first things first. We have some breaking news to pass along. Anthony davis and the lakers are finalizing a five year. One hundred ninety million dollar extension this on the heels of the other big news this morning that lebron signed a two year extension yesterday. So lebron and ad now tied together with the los angeles lakers for the next three seasons. All right nick. I let me start with you. What was your reaction to these moves. Well listen for as far as the ad news would just broke. I think it surprised. It's going to surprise a lot of people but it shouldn't have. I think a lot of the nba thought. Anthony davis was going to sign a two plus one meaning a contract that would take him through years nine and ten. Then he'd be a free agent after your ten be able to get you know the increase in salary you can get being a ten year player in this league is set on this show a few weeks ago. I reported a few weeks ago. That i was told by someone who one thousand percent would know. He's either going as short as possible or as long as possible meeting. Anthony davis was considering contracts. A one plus one or this contract. He just signed a five-year deal which is really a four. Plus one time to the lakers. As long as he possibly can be tied to them. And this is right after. Lebron james tied himself to the lakers as long as he according to the cba is allowed to be tied to them given his age. It gets complex on that but lebron's extension. He signed is the longest he's allowed to sign. These two guys understand are the favorites to win the title. This coming season and there is no reason. They will not be the favorites or one of the very very short list of co favorites or near favorites over the next few years. So why go anywhere you're in arguably the most livable city in america. If you're rich you you are in a place. That is the most attractive destination. Not only four free agents but also for veteran minimum guys chasing a ring. And you've got the best player in the league and the best big in the league who seemed to really like each other so this was something of a no brainer. It would have been surprising. If anthony davis didn't do this. Lebron had never signed an extension at any point in his career except for his rookie extension. He kind of got the ball rolling in a d then followed sue. And this is great news for laker fans and pretty big. Bummer for most of the rest of the league brandon. Yeah so we're supposed to be talking about lebron james signing his extension. That's where that's what. That's our our topic around basketball today. That's what it was supposed to be. So when i saw that. You know lebron extension to for eighty-five the first thing i thought about was and it wasn't shocking. It wasn't me it wasn't breaking news. We knew that. A lot of talk about lebron james going to los angeles because this is the end of his career. He's ready to start transitioning into life after basketball so the movies and his sons in high school and he loves la etc etc etc. So when i thought when. I saw that the very first thing i thought about was where's ad. Why is this taking so long. And when you look at winners and what he's been reporting and dive in deep behind it it's this kid was really looking at spreadsheets and really studying the salary cap the figure out. Well how does this deal. Set me up for the rest of my life. Not just from a financial standpoint but with the salary cap house is gonna play in the next couple of years and what is the deal after that and after that gonna look look like for me so i think like you said nick. We're not shocked by this. We knew it was going get done but for me. I was getting anxious. Why is it taking so long. Wild like we know that everything knicks. It is so true you are. The favorites are coming off of a championship. You have the greatest player in the sport. Maybe ever so. Why are you getting the deal done. So i'm glad that it happened in it. Seems like he positioned himself very well after starting autumn spreadsheets and figuring out how this is going to set for the next ten fifteen years. Yeah we'll look. The lakers are going to be relevant for a long time. And they always have been the always will be the lakers have been to the files for thirty. Two years of the nba's existent makes him. Basically they win. The it means they go to the finals every other year. They went about once every three years so reporters do the math. So nick look long-term something special about a big man in a lakers uniform. What do you think. Adc ceiling is from the four laker. Great shack will kareem and now a d. How high can he go. Can he overtake those guys. I don't think you can think he's better than any of those guys right now. But what would he have to do to say. Let's get let's get over. I don't even know how you want to rank those guys. But he's on that little rain big mental easy to rank them so corinne will shock and then a big big gap and anthony davis. I if we're you know it's funny you ask me i. I'm working on something that i've been working on for. I don't know last seventy hours over the last few months. Which is the fifty best players. The last fifty years and you know who found himself on that list. Anthony davis came in. I think thirty seven and you might say you hadn't done but he really is. He's already made four first team all nba. He was the second best player on a champion. Now he's had monster playoff moments. He's never had a bad playoff series. And so unfortunately. When you're talking about passing those other guys will obviously wasn't the last fifty years cream is third. Shaquille neil is not night yet. Nine so i mean it's a high mountain to climb to get up there but i would say davis without. Yeah i mean listen. Shacks got four rings. He's got a league. Vp the most dominant strikes. Happy go ahead. So i think if they if they go back to back if they win this one and they they find themselves potentially during the three p. or just in that discussion like okay. Maybe they make it back in. They lose he could potentially be alongside of shack will like why not because it comes down to champion. His game is so smooth. It's not you know the old traditional big man game while this do like you said nick. He is a top fifty player of all time. So now if you add a few championships to that i think he's alongside of those guys so one hundred percent and he's one of the aces of the lakers organization forever so two things one related to this. One totally unrelated. The related thing is people because anthony davis has been in the league for so long. People think he's older than he is. When this contract is over he'll be thirty one so the five year extension that he can opt out opt out of after four years. If he were to do that he'll be thirty. One reentering free agency. So he's got maybe ten playoff runs left in him so that is so the ceiling. It's almost impossible to place on it. But i wanna take. I want to take this car and turn it into a totally different direction because there is said intentionally. This is bad news for nearly every other fan base. Let me tell what fan base this morning. This is amazing. News for the milwaukee bucks because what the los angeles lakers have told the entire league. Is we gonna stay because jaanus. The possibility of is coming to la. His brothers there. He you know he. He just gave a long interview to agree. A journalist basically laying all the flowers at lebron doorstep and there was a possibility if lebron didn't sign the extension of anthony davis just signed a one plus one and then opted out right. And then lebron ops out that you could. They could have been theory brought jaanus over as a free agent. If everyone's willing to take a little bit less to then create what would be the most dominant super team in maybe in modern history in ever nba history. These to contract extensions in that permanently. So i don't know if the lakers and know that y- honest signing his supermax. Which i think he is and i've been told the league believes he is but they they know they're not in the sweepstakes that if he's not signing the supermax is going to be available. It's dallas miami toronto. It's not going to be the lakers wild because these two deals slam the door shut permanently on jaanus ever becoming a laker. I never thought that was a real thing. And i thought the photoshop's look nice. Maybe the heat of the youngest of the heat rumors feel like they have a little more of a pulse. But i never bought the honest to the lakers at all. Now the other question is this. When are we gonna see. Anthony davis on the floor without lebron. You think lebron retires illegal or are we gonna see. Anthony davis lebron play against each other. Ever nick go into your crystal ball. Does anthony davis run play against each other ever again. only one scenario so the scenario. Oh well i don't know what did tony v.'s. All i was teased to me as well Once again anthony davis signs a five year. One hundred ninety dollars with the lakers. Much more on this still tecom. Both his deal lebron both of their extensions his in the bronze chris. We're sorry will join us next to break it all down and then we can dive into that crystal ball next first things first back here. Christopher sword we are talking about the breaking news this morning out of the nba. Anthony davis most of finalizing a find. Your one hundred ninety million dollars extension with the los angeles lakers davison deal. Come not even twenty four hours after lebron and the lakers agreed to a two year. Eighty five million dollars engine. Probably just a coincidence. So both lakers in line for the next three seasons in la resort. I'll start with you. Chris joining us by the way. We're so comfortable. I just call you by. Your last name is heun. You're always here short. What was your reaction to a d. And lebron james extensions to look is great for the lakers. My reaction was kinda whole. I expected this now. The timing of lebron's extension. Let's go there. I that was a bit surprised. You weren't really looking at lebron to sign an extension at this moment. But the not the notion that he's gonna end this career with the lakers. I think everybody has believed that. And this may not even be his last contract. But i'm not surprised he's gonna be long term with the lakers west. So ever as far as anthony davis. No one thought he was leaving the lakers. It was just a matter of what contract he was going to sign. And if you know the history of clutch management then they take their time and they look at every. Single option is advantageous to do a one year deal or three year deal five year deal whatever the case. Obviously they went long term in this case. But it's not surprising that he's staying within what this does. And i never thought never gave any credence to the notion. They jaanus onto. The koumba was joining the lakers. But what this does is pretty much in that there. There's really no realistic. Shot of yon is going to the lakers. Now as a free agent to join lebron and the. I didn't think that would happen but that was a rumor that was floated out there. This pretty much puts that to bed. But it's not surprising at all that these two are signing on long term to be with the lakers. Well let me say this. It didn't surprise me and that was because we did as well. I talked some people directly involved in this and said everyone knew he was resigning but a lot of people thought he was going to take a two plus one. And i was told he's either taking a one plus one four plus one no one between the shortage of the longest. They went with the longest. But i would like to. We are looking at it. Through the prism of they just wanna title. Lebron anthony davis fit together and mesh together perfectly and immediately and they are the overwhelming favorite going into this year. I'd like to take us back. I know we have no memory at anymore. I don't know fifteen months ago when paul george doesn't wanna play with lebron quiet leonard dud won't play with lebron lebron's coming off and injured and there is speculation about whether or not that team makes sense. You got our old buddy. Chris mannix who knows hopes saying if you had to choose one or the other lakers win the title or miss the playoffs. Put your money on. Missed the playoffs. Because that team can't win the title. And how much do people really liked playing with lebron. Does he minimize other stars. Is he too passive aggressive busy too much of a blame others. And so that all those narratives existed. And i say that to say this. If this laker season with lebron james is the leader had gone anywhere close to the way. I don't know just to pick a team out of thin air. The clippers season did with kawhi. Leonard is the leader. you think. Anthony davis signing up for five more years of that you think that it was just a fait accompli. No matter how the year went. Ad was gonna wanna be next to lebron for the bulk of the the next half decade or was it because it works so well was it because there was such that familial team environment pre restart during the stoppage and post restart in the bubble. Was it because not only the best player in the league but the best leader in the league dade everything necessary to make it clear while i might have the car keys right now. Eighty one day. I will hand them to you and i might even hand them to you in game one of the nba finals by mighty. Hand them to you in game two of the nba finals. I trust you that much so it was not always going to be of course this works. Of course they win the title. Of course anthony davis signs for the maximum extension. Part of that was the work that lebron those other players did in building up the team last year. Brand into making this feel like an obvious move to the rest of us upon hindsight. Yeah and you know after listening to you talk. The first thing that comes to my mind is like why does it take so long. Why did this take so long. Like we knew yet was doubt but the end of the day after winning a championship together. You knew that he was going to be there. So the lebron james news. That was news to me. The very first thing i thought about was while when it's going to sign like when is that going to happen so i'm glad to hear you. Chris pulled back the curtains a little bit him on clutch agency because they shared the same agent and why it took so long because of their thought process. They really look at everything. He's looking at the salary cap for the next couple years and how does potentially set up the next deal and the deal after that or maybe even in deal after that. You talked about Nick when when this contract is over this extension. He's gonna be thirty one so i i'm glad that they got it done and i'm finally glad to hear why it took so long because that's the first thing that came to mind you're in la you're playing with the greatest player in the league right now. Wow so why. Aren't we getting this done. So the lakers man. This is awesome for them. And i also think this sets up lebron for that transition to the older statesman in that locker room going from superstar to now the face of the organization leading a step out there and lead the way so in the next couple of years you know him. Being his big old point guard he can now rely on those young guys and potentially get a championship or two out of it. So this is great news for the lakers. Yep you know what i think is interesting broussard. The clippers play in l. a. Too but would we be shocked if in two years three years. Paul george is not there and co is not there either like it's got the same weather. But it's it's a franchise in deep roots of the lakers organization. That makes them more special than the clippers. Just the way it is. And i know the clippers routine. Don't get don't get mad at me. But nelson's locker right now like the sailboat logo nikki. Something interesting. But i'll get research take on it. That they're a nice destination ring chasing the pessimistic version. But but looking for my to start my final chapter like what then. I'll go to the lakers. And we've seen it not work. With karl malone and steve nash but it felt like it worked with his final chapter. But like i'm going to go to the lakers this is. This is a box. I want to check on my nba career. And i think that's the secret sauce that kind of pushes them over the top. We'll look the lakers. Are the best franchise in the nba. And i know boston. You know they've got the championships and all that but the boston has it. Been a dominant franchises. Bill russell left. They obviously had the bird era why they won one championship with the last three but they they haven't been great. They've been a pretty good franchise. Since then the lakers every decade seventies eighties nineties two thousands. They've been great every decade. And so the lakers are the lakers. And even what. Nick was saying with lebron. And you're right. Lebron did a great job of creating an environment. Eighty wanted to stay in. I've always said this is the reverse of magic karim right. Kareem was the superstar. Mvp with magic got there and then kareem was able to age gracefully and it became magic's team and he helped carry kareem to a longer career than we ever expected. And i think the same thing can happen here. Lebron will probably be the best player on the lakers this season and then this will probably be that the last year of that then becomes the best player two years from now and this gives eighty more time to observe lebron to learn from lebron. How do you lead a team. How did you become more of an alpha which is not naturally and i think by the time. He's the best player on the team. He will be ready because he will have learned from the bryant and lebron will still be like a top ten player in the league. so they'll be in position to win. More championships is perfect for the lakers. Just answer your question. Quickly about the clippers. Whilst i wouldn't be surprised if paul george is gone but i think there's a good chance why is with the clippers. Long-term we know. He's from southern california. They're a very good team. And i'm going to say this. Because i'm not a clippers fan. I gotta make that clear. I grew up. More of a lakers. Fan the lakers should be the clear favourite going into this season they are. They're my favorite going into this season. But do not sleep on the clippers yet of the issues last again. They have no shot. But today is not a damian team. Today is a day. Oh if fixes everything of course. He's actually going to help. Leonard move so he's not a three hour drive from here. It's nice lasted happening. But let's talk about a more important team first of all. I'm very glad. I want to support resort and one thing. I'm very glad broussard. Setting the record. Straight on the myth of the celtics. You want eleven championships with bill russell. You have six since then. You have one championship since the fall of the berlin wall. Zip it celtic fans. You're not in this discussion now. As far as what. We're discussing with the lakers. Here are the other things that i think are absolutely now not just like my thought exercises but legitimate points of discussion. I had to ask you right now. You have to pick one of the following lebron james in the rest of his career only get one more ring or he gets three more rings. What's more likely to set the over under two so two as a push wilds. You would say one okay. Group resort. If i said zero more rings or two more rings what what what are you picking to. He never wins another one. Where worry ties my okay. There you go all right. So we're so you think your guests would be five but if the six or four you land on six. Here's the other thing we now know. Lebron's extension lebron guaranteed something. I don't know if people care about. But i know he does. He now passes kareem and scoring in a lakers uniform. He passes magic in assists in a lakers uniform. He's going to need about two and a half years surpassed kareem about a year and a half to pass magic and a little more than that to move into third all time assists. He does all of that in a lakers uniform. That would his extension means and he does it while they're working on a three peat. That's what your extension means. So guess what he'll get a statue. Nick outlet staples and the goat. Debate will still live on It's gonna be so silly. It takes a lot of tenacity to keep a small business. 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Down before have unacceptable and a seven yard touchdown late in the game unacceptable and so We're fortunate tonight. is good to to proceed With the victory acknowledged that of but not a lot happening tonight to be proud of to be excited about other than that. I don't know a lot. Oh my goodness that was real. He's really angry. He's eleven and know a lot of time. You coaches coachman jeannie. You guy say things just to get us round up the locker room but coach tomlin was really upset riled up he got himself rob reason to be he and reason to be that that steelers team struggled to be very depleted ravens team yesterday so coach and good morning. Eric genie with us right now. Coach let's start with. Are you surprised that was so hard for pittsburgh to walk away with the w in this one. No i'm not surprised. By by mike's reaction. I'm not surprised by some of the difficulties that they faced with the ravens. You get the situation where you're a successful as they ben and you're playing a team that's depleted and you saw the the stephen to tweet by talking about how it should be heavy win. You're constantly having to overcome this. This sense of complacency and and human nature comes into it. And i talk about it all. The time is learning how to win and dealing with that environment and so i never felt that the game was was out of the steelers control. Yesterday never felt like they weren't going to win the game and and even though he said it looked like a. jv game the good news is that there. Jv is better than than baltimore jv. I actually thought the last time they played was was a worst performance when they they gave up forty seven carries for two hundred and sixty five yard. Is it like five point six yards a carry. And they're the first or second rush defense in the league that thirty five minutes. I'm obsessed got dominated the last game and found a way to win but the frustration. Here for mike. Is that when you play a team that you're supposed to be and and you you played down to that level eventually. It's going to catch up with you. And and he's trying to keep his finger on the throttle. I'll just say bill. Parcells and bill belichick were two of the best at when you are winning keeping keeping their finger on the team to make sure there was always that sense of urgency are so know i was joking little bit entering this conversation about coach tomlin because they're sitting here at eleven to know and he's really angry and you get the win and we know how hard it is the winning the national football league weekend and week out but the reality for me is it's not about the game right like and it's hard. This is a tough conversation because as a player former player you have to understand that you can't make decisions in a vacuum you can't have certain conversations in a vacuum because we're trying to set up the league in the people that's gonna follow us for years to come like i got to think about. What is the wide receiver position in the way deals are structured for the guys. Come in five years behind me jerry. Rice terrell owens. Marvin harrison knows guys paid way. Ray lewis peyton manning's of the world. So i say all that to say this you know for me. It wasn't about the game so we talk about the why behind this game looking sluggish. And why behind the pittsburgh steelers playing the way they did in the baltimore ravens. We can't have this conversation without talking about this week. Covert nine thousand nine hundred struck. These locker room stuck struck this locker room so for like i get it and after it again you started talking more rumblings about you know well you know. We didn't have much practice time. I pulled my hamstring. Because we didn't. I wasn't conditioned. So what do you expect so i guess for me and i said we can't have these conversations in the vacuum because it's look we want. Football football is awesome. It's it's a distraction throughout. It's been a distraction throughout half of twenty twenty. We all need it. We love football in the nfl. The players the coaches has done a phenomenal job. Okay in making sure guys are safe. Safest can be while putting a product out there by the end of the day is getting to that part of the season now as cases or increase in now it's more challenging so i guess you know nick coat my question is how do you continue to keep the team together when there's so much change like this. It's already tough throughout a week. We're away from our families all seven days a week pretty much so that's nine to five. That's sometimes sixty five so now with all these changes. How do you keep things together when you're talking about practicing today we're practicing. We're were doing zoom where we're going to meet over here. We're going to be over there. I just think we can't have these conversations in vacuum right now because it's so tough to keep everything together coach and nick. Yeah i it. It is really tough brandon and and everybody is is going through this and trying to navigate through a landscape that there's no math four. And i i really believe that mike. Tomlin's frustration comes from the fact that once you do get to the playing field and you've overcome all the challenges during the course of the week. There's an expectation that you're going to perform at at a certain level and his team is is obviously very good and he's obviously has very high standards for what he expects from his team. So so overcome those challenges. Get into the point where you could actually show up and play and then playing really poorly. They're eleven and no because he doesn't want to hear excuses and he he has high expectations. And that's i think where his disappointment comes from. It is hard everybody right now in the league in everybody right now in the country in the world is trying to figure out the best way to to to go through this and to deal with it and it sets were all facing those challenges and i think tomlin understood that while we're all facing those challenges of those two teams. It was the ravens not. His team would have been decimated this week by kobe. And yet these two teams when you watch them. They looked about even and i in tomlin's frustration. Come from this place. he knows. This team is not as good as an eleven record suggests. They beat to playoff teams this year. They've had one impressive victory over a good team. That was a browns team. That i think's a good team but nobody else seems to their other. Victory over a playoff team. Was titans team. That missed a forty five yard field goal in the final minute to tie that game and he knows four of their next five games are against playoff teams and i also think he knows this. This very well might be the first round match up in the playoffs. This steelers are not going undefeated. Kevin wild they're going to lose abilene ones in the final five weeks if not twice. And if they're the two seed baltimore has a very soft schedule the rest of the way. They studied themselves and get to the seven spot. I think baltimore goes into that potential not even rematch but their third time against him saying game. One lamar had four turnovers. Threw a pick six through another pick. That was almost return. For a touchdown it then got punched in and we lost by four game to we. Were on our second. And then third string quarterback game started with a fumble. Then there was a pick six weeks still were a third and sixth. Stop away from getting the ball back down five with two minutes left. I think baltimore thinks give us a third shot fully healthy with lamar week and beat these guys and i think tomlin understands having launched these two teams played twice. Baltimore's played very poorly the first matchup they had basically a second-string team in the second match up and both of the games came down to the final couple minutes. And i think that rightfully wilde's concerns mike tomlin because i think he knows the two seat for them is very possible as well. I like this. You're taking a page out of my book. It's like what i do to the chiefs like the winds. Don't count anymore. The other eleven. Oh but this and and all but they play jacksonville. Also what we do to baker and you. You rip us for that but i like that. You're coming away are sort of way of thinking when you look at the schedule. Mangini engine coach coach. I am a little bit nervous about this washington. been on. they've been just chilling out since thanksgiving getting ready. Got the number one pass defense. They've got chase. Young ben rothlisberger night really bad and then at the same time steelers are kind of this was a bumpy road for them. Do so the question. Is this real quick. Because i know we have to go to break certain times in like a no hitter. It's like oh you got a no hitter. Going in the pressure starts like ratchet up. I don't talk to the started. Ratchet up ratchet up. Do you feel like the steelers. The pressure of the undefeated season ratcheting up. Ratcheting up ratcheting up. When does it become a burden. First of all the knicks point. There's no way that mike tomlin sitting there thinking about the two seed with with five weeks out. He's worried about getting the dean play ready to play the next weekend over the course of the next five games when you start thinking when you start thinking five and six weeks ahead. That's that's where you get in trouble and that's where where the players get in trouble is when you look pass a opponents In terms of of ratcheting up. I think it definitely ratchets up. It's definitely a function of everybody. Telling you how great you are understanding that you have a chance to make history and then putting too much pressure on yourself instead of just going out and dealing with with the next situation you're in. It's going to be hard for for them to overcome that pressure as keeps mounting. They they lose to the cleveland browns in his colts away. They'll take a we gotta jump back to the nba. Lebron likes l. a. We'll stay in la and a d. We'll do the same thing. We're talking about the breaking news of laker lands. Lebron and anthony davis will be there for a hot minute. That's next i. I thank you. Thank you in two days. It's the fine of into the fall. As undefeated junior takes on dany garcia for the world welterweight championship available on page review. We can buy the final foxsports dot com slash completely. And watch any where off i. Let's get back to last night's big. Nba news russell westbrook to washington for john wall and a first round pick for us. This'll be thirteen in as many seasons. After eleven years in okay. Cnn last year alongside harden in houston but for wall. Who hasn't play basketball. Almost two years is a chance for a fresh start as as a running mate starts still with us. Busy morning here on first things first broussard. Who are the winners and losers of this trade. Well look. this was indeed a blockbuster trade. Because of the names involved john wall was a perennial all star. Russell westbrook is a legend. Yes alleged the first ballot hall of famer and alleged for the three triple double seasons but neither of these teams is going to be very good. So i don't know that there's a huge winner. But if i have to pick which team won the trade i'm going with washington because washington becomes relevant right. We wanna see russ and bradley. Beal play together just like we wanna see russ and james harden play together if for no other reason in the c- can at work and i actually think it can work to a degree. We're i give them a shot. A pretty good shot and making the playoffs in east now is not guaranteed. But i think they'll battle with atlanta. Maybe an indiana kind of for that seven eight area in the playoffs in the eastern conference. So they're relevant. They got a shot. You put the ball in his hands you surrounding with shooting. They were good three point shooting team last year. Eighth in the league. I believe and so you go from there. You're relevant your sexy your fun to watch people are talking about you. As far as westbrook. Overall though i think he would have been better off just staying in houston so i don't know that he's a winner overall. Obviously he talked too much in. There has to be done at this point but he was in a better situation with the rockets he may never play another relevant playoff game in his career in houston they could have been. Maybe a second round playoff team and gotten into the playoffs and made a little noise but now he's he's going to he's still can make all star teams though in the east. That's something john wall probably will never make an all star team in the west. There's just way too many guards there. Especially of james harden stays with them. So i think overall wall was a loser in this deal and west and the wizards were the winners. Let let me ask you a question broussard. Because you said rust stayed in houston. They could play. Relevant playoff games potentially like they've last year made the second round last year. They got beat by the best team. Why can't happen with houston with wall like i know. We haven't seen war play in two years. But i but i i think christian would is a really good signing by them. I think stephen silas going to do a good job. Harden is still an unquestioning unquestioned. Top six player in this league a john wall is even eighty percent of what he was pre achilles injury and he'll injury why can't they go. A similar place would have gone with. Ross one walls. Not as good as russ and i know they're similar style players but it's a big if they if he's going to be what he was when he got injured okay remember. He's got the knee injury and in the achilles on top of that but beyond that what russell westbrook gave you. even though he and hard weren't a great fit and obviously isn't great off the ball. He had this aggressive ferocity that kept the opponent off balance. That kept the opponent off dr. His ferociousness was an x factor. That could throw everything out of whack for the opponent and so you had hard new. Was this tremendous half court score and shooter and then you had russ who was just a whirlwind and as athletic as john wall was and maybe still will be. He is not that he is. He does not put the defense off balance the way that russell westbrook did so that kinda x factor that unknown that through teams off in the west. They won't have that anymore. I don't know how in the world these two were hard and wall. They're gonna play together. Waugh's not a very good shooter while dominates the ball as much as harden or westbrook. Did i just don't see this being very successful and very good for the right. I'm sorry i don't think the rockets made a good deal at all because you got a first round draft pick okay. Wow is not going to be a high lottery. Pick we know is protected as so i. Just don't i think they would have been better off with westbrook. Okay wow is by new thing for sard be back on your idea that ross will never play a relevant playoff game. What do you think the strategy was. Or the blueprint was for the heat to get to finals a super competitive guy. Russ okay. Jimmy butler surrounded with shooters and some good coaching. Janas kind of breakdown. Of course but next thing you know of all of the sudden wow heater in the finals so is there a chance. I don't think we're at bradley. Beal's apex performance. I could see russ pushing in. And i can also see russ given them that little bit of extra attitude that they need to sort of make a run on fan of longshots. It's like my we're blazer buddies and like that so. I'm like talk myself into the wizards. So i'm just not ready to give up the fact that ross can't get in the playoffs and make some noise. You're leaving out. A huge factor for miami that organization that organization was a big part of their success. This year the professionalism the drive of pat riley eric's bolsters a much better coach than scotty brooks and jimmy butler is a better leader than russell. Westbrook is and so that those are huge. Now i again. I think they make the playoffs can. But it's not guaranteed but look the east is much better brooklyn. Was there last year with durant and kyrie irving philadelphia will be better with doc rivers and what they've done to surround their two young stars. They're more being there as well as the gm boston visit. I know nick likes to hate or a boss. The boss who's going to be good. I don't. I'm not saying they win the east but they are going to be a good team. Stop sleeping on jayson tatum. And you let your tears me nothing to me. Are jason taylor. The celtics would be a tough t and cracking the east. The east is much better. Get this conversation. Hurt your ears this a little bit. You and i as the resident of ultimate competitors. We love the risks. We love the adrenaline russ. So like they're sitting here talking about this. And we're not talking about championships. Whenever i see you know all stars in superstars get traded. The first thing. I think about doesn't make their team better and put him in position to content and the answer is no so why. Why is this this conversation so big. This is a lose lose situation so no we got to go to break. I know we gotta push the conversation four. I don't wanna just put white noise out there but the reality is it's like can they win a championship. Yes or no you already your money like i can understand a player going to a losing situation if he if the money's better but these guys both have their money and they're sitting here in lose lose situation so i don't get it all right well. The conversation continues. We gotta take a turn now head back to la the other big story this morning a d. n. Lebron are now locked in with the lakers. They've got their money and they're probably gonna win a championship brandon. Are they on their way to becoming the best duo in nba. History will tell you next. Verse eight history back. Here i think spurs with stories to start your morning sponsored by ram trucks built to serve and our big story is the big breaking news out of the nba. Lakers and anthony davis close to finalizing a five year. One hundred ninety million dollar extension. This on the heels of lebron james breen to a two year eighty five million dollars tensions zone so the co stars of the defending champs line for the next three seasons nick final thoughts on the laker stars coming back. So here's the thing. It seems anti-climactic. Lebron wasn't expected to sign an extension yesterday but no one expected him to leave the lakers. Anytime soon and people didn't know wayne a would sign his extension and for how long it would be. I had said he was either going to do the shortest possible or the longest possible. No in between he ended up going long as possible but nobody thought he was leaving. So it feels like okay. This is about what we expect it. But i think it's important to recognize. It's only what we expected because of what they accomplished. It's only what we expected because in one of the most tumultuous difficult unprecedented years in nba history of all the teams in the league. This one from start to stoppage to restart to finish was the most consistent and seemingly had the best chemistry and was the most together and that's a testament to anthony davis who was in a winning situation for the first time in his career and not only rose to the occasion but thrives and that man right there lebron james who fifteen months ago wilds. The narrative was quite wanna play with him. Paul george zone wanna play with him. Who really wants to play with him. is that it. does he. minimize the secondary stars. Is he going to. La for movies is the championship window closing. And now you've got a guy in anthony davis who has the ability to one day. Be the best player in the league. Saying i want to attach the rest of my twenties and into my early thirties to playing with you. And if the lakers have gone the way. Oh i don't know. The clippers did and melted down in round two against houston are. These extensions being signed. No they're not and so it feels like it was a a definite only because the lakers did what they were not favored to do throughout the majority of the season which is role to the nba championship wilds. So here's a question for you nick. Right back to you. Lebron went to miami. Did the famous not four not five not six and it was like oh kind of set himself disappointment when he came to l. a. When i came to la. I felt like the goal was one championship. Bring the championship back to la. And they did it. Right away lakers. And it's the same thing. It's like when kevin garnett went to boston when one championship. That's what they got. Boom career was made. Now you're on another level. This success happened so early. The question for you is one another. What would you consider disappointment. what would you consider. they don't want it on. To a disappointment. I gotta win win. Another i am brandon. I m curious where you're at on this. I think because they won in such overwhelming fashion. Because they didn't they had a good free agency. Lebron is showing no signs of deterioration. Anthony davis was so good. I if win lebron retires. They haven't won another title. I think it will be considered a disappointment. This senior with the lakers brandon. Yeah so where. Am i with this. Last night was the news. Lebron james signed the extension to eighty five million. So that's what we were supposed to talk about this morning on our show. But i didn't think that was that was interesting news. We knew that you talked about it. Nick everybody was talking. Well lebron james the last chapter of his career. He's going to los angeles his kids going to be in high school. He wants to settle down. He loves the lifestyle out. There's great for his family the movies studios etc etc etc. So for me. The first thing that came to my mind was when is going to sign his contract like you just want championship. The greatest player of this era. Kim potentially go down as the greatest player ever. So what is the hold up here. And i'm glad that we're starting to hear. More into layers are being peeled back because it gives insight to why it took so long they share the same agent and this kid was literally sitting back trying to figure out. What does the salary cap looked like the next couple years so i can set up my career so this is not the last contract. So what does the contract out there that in after that potentially looked like so. I'm glad that they got it done. This is great for bass. This is great for the lakers. And this is also great for lebron james. Why do i say that because now he has the player the teammate that he can then pass the torch to in the next two or three years. Lebron james it's all about chasing jordan. It's all about getting six. He is imperfect position to do that. Now because there's only a few players in all of sports that can evolve that can evolve in play differently. Some guys only complainer. Sport their position. One way i think about the. Nfl larry fitzgerald going from the best wide receiver to now a really good tight in instill catching seventy eighty balls wide. Because he's able to adapt evolve. Demise is the i q you have charles woodson. Went from corner corner then. He went to the off pro. Safety played fifteen sixteen years. So lebron is that so. I think this is perfect for him and the lakers organization because he could potentially win a couple more championships and all wilde's there's thirty teams in the nba. This is great news for two of them. It's great news for the lakers. Obviously it also in my opinion. Great news for fans of the milwaukee bucks because there was some speculation with the way jaanus is speaks of lebron up to an including a couple of days ago. Calling him still. The best player in the world with the lakers potential financial flexibility. After this season with the fact that janas brother is on the lakers. That honest didn't sign the supermax and lebron didn't sign an extension agent. Signed a one plus one. They both opt out. They both agree to take a little bit. Less than the lakers could. Then sign as to the max contract and create the greatest. Three men triumvirate nba history. The lakers slammed the door shut to that even being a slight possibility. I think that is in part because they believe what i believe. Which is what. I've been hearing. Which is that is going to before. That december twenty first deadline sign the supermax with milwaukee and so milwaukee wild kind of had an off season trade per drew. Think have bogdonovich. Don't have bogdonovich. Jaanus is still in greece. He added agreed to the deal. I think this is really good. News for the bucks. It's amazing news for the lakers. And it's a big bummer. For the rest of the western conference and the rest of the nba. Yeah i never bought the yawn as to l. a. Stuff at all. I just never bought it all in what. Interestingly when you hear jaanus talk about colby and how. Kobe did it with one team. Actually think that ended up hurting the lakers. Chances they and you know what. I have a good team here. I want to build something. I think he's going to sign a supermax but i don't know what the timeframe is. I still think he heaves there. No matter how bad they bought a trait. But the sign and trade. Nick if you keep on giving lebron championships someone's not getting championships. That means your buddy hardens not getting a championship that means maybe janas doesn't get a championship so who is odd man out. If you think the lakers keep on collecting rings well we're not gonna around him in the next years. We're talking about for the next for the next three or four years. Kevin durant steph curry and james harden and kevin top. That list steph curry's out on a contender. This year hardens out on contender. This year kevin durant supposedly is but kevin durant even pre. Achilles was never as good as lebron and kyrie irving on his best day is not as good as anthony davis. So this duo. But her duo brentwood their but together. Yeah they can get higher on the nets than i am. So it's it's durant steph and hardened that are most negatively affected. Lucas got fifteen years. Janas has close to fifteen years. Those guys will get their ring. It'll be their time eventually but lebron's not ready for anybody else's time quite yet you're not all right. Anthony davis lebron james go signing contracts extensions both gonna stay in la for awhile.

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Monday night football guys. This was the right game for the steelers right. This sort of the game to get their mojo back. This was the kimmy against the bengals team. They'd beaten eleven straight times once again. The steelers look flat and once again. Big ben will old flattened oldest a terrible way to go through life bangel. 's pulling off a stunner in this one leaving pittsburgh in serious danger of finishing second in the afc north. Woulda thunk ariza. Very bundled up. Ben roethlisberger do you right now. In the month of december truly feel one hundred percent in your arm. Anybody that plays this game in at any level position. I should say i was one week. Sixteen drills one hundred percent. So no i would say that. I don't feel one hundred percent but nobody does right now. Wasn't i right. I mean how calm that press room may have like sixteen years on plus the hat. Nick for the steelers. That's three straight losses now for the team. I'll say it again. I said it last week and the week before we thought could maybe go undefeated. Is it now time to press the panic button. Oh it's absolutely time to mash that panic button. But before i get into why. I have to dress what everyone's thinking this morning and so i'll be the first one to do it. A hearty and sincere congratulations to the defending super bowl. Kansas city chiefs for essentially six up the one seed with two weeks ago. Good job fellas us at home hanging out and get the once he gets the by. But now let's micro macro. Let's start with the game last night. That was a shameful performance and i mean that literally the steelers should be ashamed of what they did particularly offensively in the first half in the first half the steelers had eight drives five. Went three and out to ended in a fumble wasn't impossible ten play seventeen yard drive. I don't even know. The math works there that ended in an interception. And then in the second half they clawed back into it. They're down seventeen to ten and they go three and out they get back to twenty four seventeen and the defense lech ryan finley. I'm sorry the the defensive when it was seventeen ten. Let's ryan finley. Go nine plays eighty yards ryan finley. You could be a big time college football player not be college football fan. Not familiar with ryan been work. So both sides of the ball unacceptable performance and that's the micro. the macro. Brian is this. As i mentioned the one seed seal later the steelers are underdogs underdogs at home next week to the colts if they lose that game that means week. Seventeen against the browns is for the division measured saints in sealers. The five seed this year five seed. They're guaranteed not to be the one. They're highly unlikely to even be the to play all the way to the five seed. This is even the biggest steelers. Pessimists like our friend colin coward. I don't think saw this type of fall from grace for this football team brian. Yeah you're absolutely right. The steelers have struggled over the last month or football. And here's the truth. Their struggle at a time where it's important for a team to be getting better getting ready for the playoff run. Let me just outline of a season from a player's perspective. August and september. You're getting this shape and developing your identity. Trying to figure that out october. You're perfecting that identity and now november and december. It's all about the playoffs. It's all about putting wins together so you can build that competence for the play offs and really have struggled in the last four games. They haven't average they haven't scored twenty points ostensibly and that's because they have no threats. They have no ability to run the football. And we're talking about big been the most important position on the field. He showed he actually has looked just like duck. Hodges and mason rudolph last season number two and number three quarterback talk for the steelers. I mean just look at the last two games. This is just the truth. He hasn't had over one hundred ninety yards adding three interceptions in three touchdowns that's worthy of the second and third position. We talk about quarterback kevin. Here's a bigger picture. I think nick just hit on. They just have. The coach left as well as the browns. The steelers run the risk of going into the playoffs on a five game losing streak. That's no way to go into the playoffs into that. Also spells probably an early exit. Didn't play also kevin. I just hard to see. The steelers can figure this thing out in such a small in a short period of time. So i want to drive home. How terrible the steelers were even though this team is on the rise and getting high and some people have picked them so you know what. Be careful about this team. they're not taking. The steelers have been worse than the jets brian. We look at the graphic steelers only scored sixteen points last four games so absolutely brutal brutal staff. It's a brutal. And they're not tanking for the record. They are not trying to drop down twenty second. Pick so brian. Here's a here's a take that we just saw or it's a question we just saw drew. Brees get hurt. Sit down comeback. Shake the rust off and did pretty good in the second. Half is the fact that big ben. it's arm he's not one hundred percent but he he's like getting worse and worse and worse and worse. Should mike tomlin. So you know what dude i know. This isn't like a normal injury but it's just progressing. Let's sit down. Get you fully healthy. Give you just a ben rothlisberger by week so we can hit the play offs with the big bend that we want to see those first eleven games putting up almost thirty points a game. You know. that's interesting that you mention that because there was a week early in the season we're been didn't practice at all. And then he came out and had a great game on sunday so maybe as player there is certainly more important than practicing but at this point in the season kevin. You need your team to be together. You need your team to come together and say everything that we're doing is not right. We have to figure it out. Been has to be much more accurate. Receivers have to catch the football when we talk about winning the game. The line of scrimmage. That office has played much better. They're losing in the trenches. They need to find a way to help in in the way to help them is to establish the run game. They have to find a way to run the football right now. They have no ability to run. The ball and james conner out last night with a quad injury could really use him before the game. Check this out. Juju smith schuster doing his typical dance on the bengals logo. I'm sure he thought. Hey there's no way this could be a bad idea. Bengals safety von bell disagreed. He called jews dance. Disrespectfully said the only way to get him back his to hit him so what he do. Oh he hit them all right and he hit them. Hard fell unloaded on juju in the first quarter forced the fumble juju. That's bad juju. And if anyone knows about scott buddy so wiles i do. Is it time to retire. The pre-game dance when juju got hit with bad juju great question. So he's he's in a tough spot here. Nick he needs to either keep doing it and double double down or just stop collapse that he looks terrible. But here's the thing everyone's like. Oh you're all people don't wanna have fun. It fish respectful to the players. It's disrespectful to the other team. It's not disrespectful to your grandma. Doesn't love tiktok even though oddly. Grandma's are popular like egg. Grandma look at this. I think he'd probably needs to double down. Unfortunately he's probably gonna get lit up again. So here's the listen. Let me tell you you are. This is the gambler's fallacy. Which is if. I just keep done if i lose a bet and i just double what i bet and i lose again and then i double that eventually. I only have to win one one time even it and that is true. But sometimes you're run out of money before you can get before you hit that winter and then you're just bankrupt at this point. Ju jus got to walk away from the table. Like i am all for fun. I'm all for celebrations. I'm all for dancing. And while i understand that. Wow this is an end of a segment capper. Because it's ju ju if this were odell and he had been fumbled and his team that lost three in a row. I'm pretty sure would have come in at four in the morning to start wall-to-wall programming just about that. I get that but it is brian. The disrespect angle of where he is doing. The dance thing that i think is putting a bigger target on his back and i think amongst players is going to be seen as in poor taste and it's tough to do when you're fumbling your team's not win it when i was playing we. Would you know we had home games. Would you know after our one must be worth breaking down so the entire team but go to our logo at home we will break down and you know with that represents this is our house and not wanna come into our house in beat us now. We were rolling. We were winning football games. We will go into the opposing team's house while we were on the road and you go. We were take the middle of the field and say listen. We are going to turn this into our house and kevin agenda. This is like walking into your your your house and saying i'm going into your frigerator. I'm taking whatever you want to eat. I'm taking your dinner. I'm sitting in your chair. And i'm taking the remote control you the biggest baddest i in the world without you can do that. And that's when the steelers were eleven. Oh but at this point lost three in the low three in a row. Juju can't catch the football now. it's time to retire. You're not the biggest in the nfl at this point. Now it's time to go home and find a way to win a football game. Let's focus on that. He's gonna he's trying to do the rick. James same bleep yo couch but he regains. Bright steelers have lost three straight. It's not great. You know what is great. Got some nba. Tonight will broaden ag begin. Their title quest again is another ring all but assured do we even need the season to be played. The answer next first things first holiday season means stocking up on some essentials like decorations and an ugly sweater with the bank of america. Cash rewards credit card. You can choose to earn three percent cash back on online shopping. The essentials have never felt more rewarding visit bank of america dot com slash more rewarding to apply now copyright twenty twenty bank of america corporation burst listeners. Issue boy say a co host of f s ones undisputed. I wanted to tell you about my new podcast clubs shea where we always do something before to something each week. 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How do you see this season. Plain out for them. Well first of all let me clear up a nasty myth out there. I am not a clippers fan. They are not my beloved clippers. I know i have nick right known. I was rooting for the lakers. Where he was in diapers if not before then is so. I'm not a clippers fan. I pick according to knowledge even though my knowledge was wrong last year anyway here. It is for the lakers. I think is a lot different than last year. I- lebron obviously last year came out essentially played every game went hard. Maybe trying to get the mvp award certainly trying to get the number one. See really establishing or reestablishing. The culture there with the lakers. Being an example for anthony davis of playing through pain playing every game i think this year is a different approach from him because of his age because of the short off season i think he eases his way into the season sits out some games. You know doesn't doesn't go. As as hard i mean he's gonna play well but just paces himself a little more. The plan is about twenty eight to thirty minutes a night. We know lebron is never really stuck to that type of minutes regiment. But i'll say he's at thirty thirty one minutes a night and they've got other players that you know they don't have to rely on lebron as much i don't think at least during the regular season that they'll be as lebron centric as many of his teams have been. Maybe all of his teams have been. You got margot saw you got dinner schreuder you got. Hey t t taylor tucker you. Who's still congratulating him. You got a lotta guys. That can come in there and play well. I don't think they'll fall off when lebron goes to the bench or sits out a game like they did last year. I think it is up there. Still the number one seed because they got tons of talent and i think it ends up with it another lakers championship. It'll be good if we restart breaking coldstream picking champion. So i'm happy for either. he's right about. Obviously the lakers are gonna win the title. Take the over all. We can go check if you have the raptors the year before that. I'm not sure we're going to have to check the archives the we nobody had the raptors to be fair to my buddy i will. I would hammer the over on lebron thirty one minutes per game. Now how many games will he play. I don't know but he is not going to be on the honest minutes program of twenty eight to thirty minutes no matter what they say. Lebron years ago made clear for me. It's not about minute about games. Once i get myself ready to play a game. It is like the difference between how. I feel after a game where i played thirty. Two or thirty seven is negligible. So i think the lakers will air on his regular minutes per game but far fewer actual games played the last year luckily for them. I think they have a very strong case. They are the deepest team in the league. If the starting lineup. And i don't know if it will be throughout the year but if it is schreuder. Kcpt lebron ad ghazal. Then they have off the bench. Obviously trez coups. Mma wes matthews driving is going to be an important part of the roster entail in horton tucker who is going to be in the rotation alex crew. So now we're ten marquee morris put you at eleven so you have plus quinn cook. Who is played. But i don't think really. Will you have eleven guys who can be a part of a rotation so you can give guys games off. And they absolutely should give guys most notably lebron james off. My biggest injury about the lakers. This year is this wild. I was adamant. And i've been drought all of my take career. If you will across sports that great players unlock an extra level. Once they removed the burden of. Can i be champion. Can i perform in the cauldron of the biggest moments so that means what will anthony davis look like. Will we see a better version of anthony davis than we've ever seen. Will we see more free version of anthony davis than we've ever seen. Will we see an anthony. Davis that in the regular season looks like the best player on the team. I think all of those things are in play i now. That's not because he's better than lebron. But it's because i eighty is in the apex prime his career coming off a spectacular postseason run. That was he was held. Potentially the finals. Mvp through the first two games of those finals and then just fell off a bit. So are we going to see. An anthony davis where he's you know. Sixty percent as ours. True shooting percentage taking those open threes. The team wants him to take winning defensive player of the year. Those types of things that to me is the biggest intrigue with the lakers because they are the overwhelming favorites more than any lebron's teams been an overwhelming favourite. Them probably is third year in miami wilds. So i know we keep talking about. How much lebron should rest. But nick about anthony davis rest. We're proven he can make it through multiple seasons. Where a you look up. Just normal drive to the basket. He's down clutching something or getting poked in the eyes. So i also want. Anthony davis to take some time a- jenna. I'm going to bring you in as our fitness expert. With all due respect nick once did dunk a racket ball and break his own. But you are still. The fitness expert. Aren't metal jenna. Can you describe interval. Training briefly interval training training is. Yes like ken. All out max effort then that's followed by a period of rest or low intensity and then it's maximum it again so you're going to go high load. Hi i we working out. Because of the yes i will take this mic off. That's started. that's how. I think the lakers lebron. Ad should do interval training basically the bronze heads marathon like nobody interval training so call out. Beat the clippers. Beat the mavs. Then you're next eight games. You only play one playoff team. The blazers and people are like what about memphis. They're the nine seeds they'll technically. They were a playoff team. They weren't really then. You've got two games in houston oklahoma city again rest jenna zan warriors bucks those games you turn it up and then bring it back down so i think it's going to be a little bit of a wave of interval training and in but i would also want another thing for me percent. Sorry i forgot. I had this. The return of one of the best of the best lebron's wind last lebron bring him back. Don't do the minute this. This lebron we see when his last lebron back swag right there. I laugh right next to him right i. I like a criticized lebron for this. I've never seen anybody walk into their job with wine. But i got admit that is some swagger right there but look i i'm gonna disagree with you wild and nick on a d. one. I think he's way too young to be on low management. Anything like that. He's playing lebron. Now that's there's no coincidence. Why he played the whole season last year. It was the presence of lebron james. You saw the same thing. We kyrie healthier than ever when he plays with lebron. We're going gonna leave right there. This season tips off tonight. We're handing out some nba awards next firstly. I this is good. Stick around. Hey first things first listeners. It's charlotte wilder here to tell you about my new podcast with mark. Titus called the people's sports podcast. It comes out every thursday mark and i take one of the big stories of the week and then we go off on tangents. You never saw coming. This might mean that we start talking about the dodgers winning the world series and ended up wondering if knicks fans deserve happiness or begin with lebron's bronze greatness and end up. Drafting our ultimate beer league softball team made up of old athletes whatever. It is the only rule of the shows that it has to be fun and funny because eased as we could all use as many lives as we can get so. Check it out wherever you get your podcasts. And come down weird sports rabbit holes with us. We can't wait to have you now back to first things. First factor first thing spurs guys the nba season kicking off tonight. We're going to preview in drawing a blank style. I dot n. v. p. janas taken only the last two seasons. I resort back with us. We're sorry the winner this season though. We'll be blanked very tempted to go with kevin durant. I think he has a phenomenal year. Anthony davis i think also will be in the hunt for the lakers. And of course. Jon is but i'm going with luka doncic lucas got everything. There's no second star there. I think he averages close to a triple double and i'm gonna leave a little wiggle room for him. Naxi average that triple double. I think it is being luca danni. Wow my guy. I started even in his golden years shows. You can still learn just say. Hey what's what's nick's january lakers. I think i wanted to go with. What is mvp. Luke i think it's going to go with lucas. The right hand misses. I know if luca mrs less than ten games he will win league. Mvp i would bet and have bet any amount of money on it. If luca mrs time then k. d. with a and be darkhorse worst pick would be my other guys but lucas. The right answer wild. I cannot believe this pick is available. I'm gonna go with lebron. Obviously the national media is trying to give lebron the award dying. Give the award and i think he sits out games. He doesn't do reduced minutes. Because here's what reduced minutes. Nick gave a nice explanation of well. He likes to gear up as body and ended up. Missing your points per game down your stats. Go down when i get piper chamber to be ready to go. It's not true it's twenty-seven you play fifteen minutes. You ever to eight screws the whole system. I think he misses his stats. Are good and the nba writers who ever all or a net or more old than you think like wow aging they can still get it done just like and lebron brennan vp was open next stop. Anywhere title is a disappointment for the mentioned lebron. A and the lakers in their quest to repeat so. We're sorry the team that's most likely to disappoint. This season is blank. I'm going to say miami. Because i read me leading. That they're the third best team in the league. I mean that's kind of ridiculous to me. Look they had a great run in the bubble. But i think the third best team in the east are and i'm like them. They play hard. Jimmy butler is a very good leader down there bam out about a will improve as will. The young guys tally hero and all that but if people are expecting them to return to the finals then they're going to be disappointing because i don't see them getting back to the finals. Even the eastern conference. I would agree with resort on miami unless they are able to pull off. James harden trade but as teams are presently constituted. I'm going with teams most likely to disappoint. Neither of these teams will make the conference finals. Let alone the nba. Finance the brooklyn nets and the los angeles clippers. They are both home at around one or two. And that's it you say stop okay. I'm not stopping. I'm in fact. Just starting it's going to be about seven months of this and focusing on nick your ater and about seven minutes. Nick was right about everything with the clippers last year. The clippers head major structural issues last year. You know how they tried to solve them. Hey here's sixteen million. Wow you have a new coach. If i'm not mistaken don't ever yet. They have what i love but no no. I didn't forget about it. Here's what they did on the bench. They said hey. We have these giant cultural issues. So here's what we're going to slide one seat over and we're going to fix it that way and now the nets. Hey the nets going to be done number one offense in basketball. It's going to mir beautifully with the number twenty eight defense in basketball. The brooklyn nets are going to be an abysmal of business. Defensive team can't win in the playoffs like that. so conference. Finals lakers mavs in the in the west in the eastern conference finals. Sixers box nets in clippers home in round to market down america. Okay now market down. I went with harden team. Tvd here's why. I'm about to play you a quote every time i listened to the sound from hardening. Nick your response blue dress a gold dress like i see a blue dress and you look at again. I see a gold dress played sound nickel react and tell me. Is this optimistic or pessimistic. Because i can't figure it out the best basketball player in the world as a team trying to get an entire three. You always be yourself a chance. That's the most important character if you're in the top three feet. Obviously you're one of the teams basketball but when it come postseason to give yourself a chance on thank you. what three. That's what we're talking about three talk. Three on wilde's can i. Can i translate that for you. Know is the cosmos of spending a decade around daryl morey because every nba champion aside from the ninety. Four rockets was top three seat. So the idea is if you want to win the title you have to be a top three seed in the conference and for him personally. He wants to win the mvp. That's the translation there. And so that's why quite. I think it's gotta be happy seattle's both games. Well that drew brees team elsewhere. That might be true as well. That's three in the east on Devon booker and the science on the come up they went eight known the bubble and add future hall of famers p. three bussard the nba t most likely to over achieve. This season is blank. Bit of shocker. Here i'm gonna go with the washington wizards westbrook scott reunited bradley beal and westbrook. That's a great backcourt. I'm not saying it's the greatest fit but two wildly talented players. Got a couple of shooters around him. I'm washing dallas mavericks. They're gonna make the conference finals. I think they. They've made a most notably josh. Richardson is a massive for them. To help them defensively. They're going to have the by the end of the year. The second best player in basketball. And they're gonna play in the conference finals the best player in basketball so the mavs have high expectations. They're still going over achieve because they're going to be a conference finalist. So i say dallas wild all right. I'm saying warriors surprised the warriors and warriors dynasty. That just got the number two. Pick and kelly. Oubre he's going to have a breakout season. There's no reason to think like they sneak into the playoffs and we just saw chris. Paul get into the middle of the bracket carrying his team singlehandedly. So i think the war is gonna oddly exceeded. Everyone's expectations though. They're one of the best teams less ten years. Yeah i'm excited to watch them tonight. Next stop rain. Rookie of the year. John moran given us highlight play after highlight play last season. So we're sorry. The player that will have the most jaw dropping highlights. This season will be blank. Job will certainly be in the running. But i am going with zion exams. Obviously as to stay healthy but he's going to get regular minutes this year no no minutes restrictions and all that he's going to be dunking on guys left and right we're gonna be seeing if every night on the highlights and morning on we'll zion. Wow i wonder if it'll be enough for bruce charge arrays zion ahead of the likes of jalen brown and his nba player player. Tears excited to see it. I love that answer. My answer is going. I think you know what i think. A little overrated dunks as far as highlights. We've seen them all until someone breaks out the front flip. We've seen them all so stop showing me bam adebayo dunks should've told the producers while i was going to say you're bam bio further defensive end not bernie this the highlight of the year is going to be out of bio catching someone shot in mitte dunk attempt and outlet bam a by the highlight of the bubble with his block in the eastern conference finals so ban that of bio was my answer. Not for any of the highlights were showing bad job by me communicating with our producers. Put for what he'll do on the defensive. End cam out of bios blocks. Sorry i just felt for a little while. Em outta bios blocks. Those will be fantastic. Chris paul's correct cancer. The older chris. Paul gets the more creative get. This is the single handedly. Prettiest move. I've ever seen in basketball two years ago. They on bradley beal ow. I'm saving yourself in devon devon booker. Let me show you how to do. It's the prettiest easiest remember seen. Don't get me wrong with sodium. Get if we can get a shot of fingertip deflection. I'm sure they'll drive ratings through the roof. Get ready to dockers of being bam work seventy feet away ratings klay thompson out can steph curry. Carry golden state of the play offs to be discussed much. More first things for snacks. We'll make our own ratings christmas day. Nfl special the vikings take on the saints coverage rate thirty eastern on fox hole. They'll they'll network and streaming online video. It is makes me feel happy. Knee early game tonight. Warriors net steph curry taking the court for the first time what feels like forever forever way to put it thirteen months against his former teammate. Kevin durant was making his nets debut. Staff will once again be without clay is done for the year with a torn achilles. So let's start there. Nick can step curry. Carry the warriors to the playoffs. I believe he can. And i believe he will. But i also am as excited to find out. If i'm right on this as almost anything that is going to take place this year because steph curry's place histories unimpeachable broussard. I just did. And i haven't released it yet. But my fifty best players of the last fifty years. I spent way too much time on it over the last nine months and steph curry came in thirteenth right behind kevin durant. Dr j. moses malone like that we are talking about the greats in the history of the game guys. Nowhere near steph curry on the pyramid. Alan iverson russell. Westbrook james harden's relatively close. But he's not he's not thirteenth. All of those guys showed you that. They couldn't take a mediocre to bad supporting cast. And we'll them to forty five to fifty wins and a playoff berth. We don't know steph can do that. I think he can do that. And they're sard. We know that if you put westbrook on steffes warriors in twenty fifteen they would have been way worse. We know that run. Is it possible that if you put staff on russes thunder in two thousand seventeen. Switched him out that the thunder would have been worse. That steph as that. He is the perfect player for a good team to make it an all time team but if you put them on a bad team or a mediocre team that he can't do what a guy like alan iverson who's an inferior player to him could do. I want to find out. So i believe he can but to me. It's a question mark and we haven't seen him do before last year. He broke his hand so we didn't get the opportunity so to me that is a super interesting storyline of this season broussard. Yeah i agree with a lot of what you said. I like your ranking. I don't know if it's exactly thirteen. Might be fourteen somewhere around there. But i think he's the best small player. And i know he's six three but he's a small below the rim player. I've always had isaiah thomas from the pistons as the greatest small player. Isaiah's mad at me. Because i moved to steph ahead of him but this guy changed the game. And i'm with you. I wanna see has the game. Kind of caught up to steph. You know where you got damian lillard taking these shots from nearly half court jamal murray other guys shoot trae young shooting these jump shots. I think the word is candy. Yes he certainly can. And they'll be in the hunt for that one of those last playoff spots. But if i had to back i probably bet against it. Not really a slight or steph. But i'm looking at the supporting cast and draymond green the second best player but we all know that draymond is not a score. He has to be around three bona fide or at least two bona fi great scores for him to be able to play his game. Do the other things are really be effective. They don't have that this year. Their second and third best scores. Andrew wiggins kelly oubre. Guess what they can't shoot. So they have got some problems with that roster james wise. I really like thought it was a great pick in the in the lottery. He hasn't even played yet and when he does play. It'll be the first time in like thirteen months. So what's he going to do as a young kid on that team. So i just don't think he has the supporting cast. I'm with you nick. I want to see if he can lift them into the play offs. I think he will have put on a heck of a show if he does it but would bet against it. Okay so nick if he does it feel like you're thirteenth ranking is solidified now. He proved that he could pull like the alan iverson. You know. get to the final step over. Tulou game then get swept. But what if. He doesn't do it if he doesn't do it. Feels like you're low key saying that like this is going to be a mark on his resume but at the same time they're not built they're not built for that. The thing about like that iverson team was built for. Iverson are like but matombo in the middle and aaron mckie you help out like steve kerr. Last year they talked about like. I'm not going to james harden the guy it's a lot on them and we're not built to space out like that well outlet. Here's what you're seeing happen. hold on. Let me respond to the kerr thing i get that if it's how do we want to win but if it's we either win playing a certain way or lose playing our way then you've got to choose option a. unless option a actually isn't available to you so right now is so. I'm so glad. Sard brought up by thomas because what my best players last fifty years you know. Who's fourteenth isaiah thomas but isaiah. Thomas could do this isaiah. Thomas is he never put up jaw-dropping numbers except for when he had to and yes he was always on good teams but he went to three straight finals and won. Titles without another top. Seventy five all time teammate. And while the guy average seventeen points per game every time. His team was in the elimination game. He threw a forty three point. Fourteen assist game because he added that gear. I would never penalize steph broussard. Pathetic that of his whole career he got to play alongside clay. And you just never knew what he would look like without him. You can't say well. I don't think he would have been able to do it. So i'm gonna penalize them but if we find out that way he doesn't have the great players around him he does look a lot more like dame dame who as much as everyone loved him last year when it was just him in. Cj that team was thirty. Two wins headed into the bubble. They were out of the postseason or maybe thirty two wins before the bubble started. I don't remember exactly but they were in trouble. If that's what this warriors team looks like then it is hard to look our mutual friend. Isaiah thomas in the eye and say this guy was better than you and so again we're in the margins but i do think it's things that real die. Nba fans care about. And we are the guys that steph curry is considered contemporaries historically all of them. All of them could take almost any roster and guarantee a playoff berth. Not a finals. Appearance not multiple but a playoff berth. And if this year steph can't take this roster and get it above the pelicans. I do think that makes you bruce. Yard reconsider a touch where he is historically again in. We're not saying. Oh he's out of the list now. But i do think when we're talking about these types of things. This is a piece of information. That's not yet part of the puzzle. Remember to alan iverson but for the year they were to the finals. They ask bass seasons in philadelphia with alan iverson. They had years where they went out early in the playoffs. I mean he didn't have much playoff success at all except for the one year that larry brown dragged that team to devise a good team. Those point quickly hold on just quickly before you finish your point and then go on but they were making the playoffs and iverson. I don't have in front of me in the university is like what i was also like forty two on the list like you know what i mean. He's not steph curry. he's not. we're not talking about him in those terms. So i mean so it's go ahead and finish your point out. I would agree with you that this is an interesting year and it is hard to say if he can't get them to the playoffs maybe does change his ranking however he also has this in his corner guess what he changed the game. How many guys in nba history can. We say literally changed the game of basketball. He has changed the way it's played and that is huge for him. In terms of is historical rankings period. And that won't go away ever. I want to just dig. Into nick. To steve kerr's take he's not going to james harden him so here are the top five usage rates of all time. If we were just wanted to go steve. Kerr wants to take a look at this all time. Ross one. mvp these are the only five guys who have thirty and bug usa drake. But there's one other guy if we open up the aperture just little bit. The last time we saw steph really cook boom same as jordan. So if steve kerr says you know what steph we need davidson steph. New nickname davidson steph to come out was nets nation driven. Yes senior year. Davidson davidson had same usage. Rate as michael jordan. And that's what the world fell in love with him. So i think steve kerr stinker you can take this and show coca few games russ do your yeah be davidson step and go and because not only would it. Give us the best chance to win. I was watching first things first. And i gotta keep you at number thirteen a nick rank nick rights list. So i think it's a double by the way by the way even if the warriors are the six seed gives step in the mvp conversation and now we're talking about moving up the rankings. If all of its off your word in eve and ties. Larry bird in that category. Now we're really talking here so it could go in either direction here but when you are talking about you. He hasn't been the most durable the last couple of years. He's got a ton of injuries. That have kept him out. So you'll see how far he goes all right. Let's turn to broussard's clippers. Is it title or boston for why that's next. He loves the clippers. he's runcorn loves them. So much. When you utah clippers back here first things first the nba getting underway tonight the lake game. You got the clippers. The lakers only one team lived up to expectations last season the other. One turned out to be broussard's clippers who folded in the second round against now question surrounding hawaii leonard long term future with the team. A very candid coli with eighty yesterday situation right now on your season not saying i'm going anywhere else or staying here but i'm just focused on a season and obviously for you know if uh stay healthy The visits is decline. A player option on the are staying on season. Say we'll talk about that when the time times right. So we're sorry. I've heard enough. Professional athletes give press conferences or interviews. Where they talk about. We'll discuss this until the end of the season for a long time reading between the lines. Could this be wise last season with the clippers. First the ball ginny. You've been spending way too much time with nick right to call them my beloved doing for. So that's that's number one. no coup. Why he's not going anywhere this year. You never say. Never okay but he has wanted to get hold to southern california. He's there now. where's he going. He's been on three teams. does he. really in the prime of his career wanted to move to a fourth. That would look back. I mean look bad when he couldn't finish close out the nuggets in the play offs. But it would look would look like a ring chase and i don't think that's what kawai is. I don't think there's ring chasing in his bones at all. And so where's he going. You're in a great situation. You're at home. You have a second star with your paul. George you got a nice supporting cast. You got a very good coach. You got an owner. That's willing to spin as much as it takes to win a chance you got jerry. West is a consultant. What in the world else could you read it. There's no reason at all for leonard to leave the clippers and it will be incredibly disappointing. Let me last this. If paul george fizzles in the playoffs again this year and was really disappointed and really starts thinking i if he can be my second guy to win a championship. Guess what they would trade him in a heartbeat if kuwa- wanted him out so no i don't think he's going under rs so lots of unpack here s. What else could he want. I don't know maybe played for team. That isn't the seventh most popular team in the city. They play in. But i guess that's twenty. Signed up for so you know. That's the life of being a clipper i suppose you. Where could he go. You said i know dallas in miami kept their powder dry for janas. He's now not they're weathering miami's is good weather in. La pat riley. Seems at least something. I'd consider if i were if this year goes the way. It's going to go with the clippers once again. Failing to make the first conference finals appearance in the history of that franchise. But the last thing you said there. Broussard is the most notable about paul george major prediction number. Two for me on this show next year. One of the two choir. Paul george is not a clipper next season. One of them's gone now either. Because he chooses to leave. Or paul george because he's traded but this team is not going to be better than last year and last year. They weren't close to being good enough. They lost to a team. That got smoked by the lakers. And i understand the newest sixty four million dollar man. Luke canard and fellow minted sixty million dollar man midseason acquisition. Marcus morris. think. That's going to be the difference along with serge ibaka eight okay serge ibaka. Who was by my count. The fourth best player on an eastern conference semifinals last year. Wow puts them over the top. But i mean i i don't i don't quite follow that logic but maybe i'm wrong. Maybe maybe they're going to get the serge ibaka that the thunder thought they add when they got rid of hardened to keep in seven years ago eight years ago. Maybe that's it. maybe i'm wrong there. But the other thing wilds that allies doing here is making sure that any of these cultural changes that tai lue might be trying to implement. Can't really implement them because guess. What is keeping the screws to them. Okay you don't want to live in san diego. How would you like if by ended up living in miami. How would you like that clippers. Can we have no picks left. No problem you don't think it's a leverage play. You don't think it's a leverage no you don't. It's keeping the screws to the clippers. Letting him know you better let me do my thing. My load manage my schedule. My practices because i can leave. He's signed a two plus one instead of three plus one four reason right that he did that on purpose so i just i'm just taking a man in his work he doesn't know he said he doesn't know what he's doing knows what he's doing. So how how do you think. These meetings go between tai blue in kenny. Atkinson and chauncey billups when kawai shows up to the plane twenty minutes late then going. Oh you're the superstar. I think like you know what one more time dude. And we're fueling up and we're outta here and you can drive to houston child things going to be any chances happens. That's the reason it's out. Nick it's not out. That info is out for a reason. The info is out to put the screws to him. If it comes out this is a bad look for the other pages organization is going to is going to be like you know what this is. How championship championships are one doing the little things and i specifically know i love cianci. I think chauncey you're not going to disrespect those guys where it's been like we're doc rivers was running a loose ship. I feel like their coach. Said you've all walked. i dot. I mean tire was there last year. And listen i will give chauncey billips. This he is without question. The best point guard on the clippers organization. But he's not really helpful. So i just like you sorry you you don't think why is going to squeeze his pressure point here you think he's just going to change them in san antonio to get out he did it in toronto. They won any lash. Why would he change. I think he is the organization keeping pressure on him similar to how lebron did when he used to sign one year deals in cleveland. However i think it is to make sure they continue to improve basketball wealth right. I don't think so he can be late to seventy five percent of the flights. I don't think there's like. I think he's got enough professionalism and enough pride to understand look some things do have to change. And if he's about winning then he needs to be on time for the most part when it comes to the flight. I do think it's about basketball. Nick like look. Let's not rest on our laurels. Let's continue to try to get better and better. That is keeping the pressure on him. But if all of this is about so i can be late two flights. There's part of me that's like do we ain't winning which you anyway if that is your mentality because here's the here's the question nikola alkali and as much as i liked him he is when he was in san antonio and one is championship. He was not the leader of that team. Obviously he was like a pop. He was probably the fourth best player during regular season. Then when he wanted into rancho he wasn't the leader both those situations not seen was expected of him. Nothing last year the first time he had to carry a burden that lebron carried his entire career. I got a win like the pressures on you to win championships. Everybody's expecting you to do it. He did it. Meltdown in that in that series with denver. So if he if this is about being late for flights call in this then that that was show. He's not the leader. You need for fair to be fair. I am not trying to say that's all about. But i do think having the full control over everything is part of what this is about. But here's what's disappointing. If you're a clippers fan as our as producer charles dickson is and. I'm sorry to out him publicly as a clippers fan. He's great at his job. I don't know if he won the world clippers fan if you are hoping that they can actually be a championship. Contender not a fraudulent one. As they were last year. You know what i would have liked to hear less of this offseason blaming doc rivers for everything you know what i would have liked to hear a single time this off season quite or paul george say you know what in the second half of game six and seven. We had huge leads. And i played terribly that maybe we weren't going to win the title but we would have won that series. If i was better. I haven't heard that quote yet and i've heard that we needed more time and we needed better chemistry and say sorry. I thought said that. I thought i thought it. So that and then he called george bradshaw and then he was like you're using me like i'm jayjay radic and you know it's all doc rivers and obviously is not said much i just i think it's going to be a little deja vu for the clippers but maybe luke canard fixes it. I love while you're putting this i to me. Put the screws to you. Nothing better but we gotta take a turn back to fulfill. Now's a good night for juju and the steelers way to you. See what happened in this game. Oh wait it wasn't a good night for the steelers boom next first things first. Let's move on age f. nailed it time for nick's nba peer. Nick rights. Been waiting for this morning since the split. Second the lakers won the title. Seventy three days ago. Nick us through the best players in the nba. Before we show it. I will postulate this. Nba has never had more talent than it does right now. The league is as deep as it's ever been somewhat argued that would make championships one right now way even heavier than championship wanting an earlier era. If you're ever going to a player comparative discussion but we don't have to get into that. Show the pyramid here are over thirty six players in. We knows that the tough lebron's james to the guy who's going to win league mvp luka doncic and the guy who last time we saw him play was the second best player in the league kevin durant tier three. You've got a guy who won the mvp and anthony davis and then two guys who've won and vp's in unison tier forum. These are the rest of your top ten. The hardest mission of that top ten was the first guy on tier five. Joel embiid murray and mitchell. Who an unbelievable bubbles. Along of course with jimmy butler believable bubble and cb three folks last year going into last year. He was further down. The pyramid got himself back up finishing in the top five. Mvp voting and then you've got really really good second options for teams on tier number that two hundred for five six and then you've got again. Think about how deep leagues right now. When guys like bam and cairo re and devon booker and bradley beal aren't even top twenty players and then you round out your top thirty. Six trae. young is not a top thirty player and he averaged thirty points for that is your nba player. Pyramid bussard going into this season. I we haven't had games yet. So we don't need to adjust anything the the producers said they wanted to all segment on this. But i don't know how much time we can spend on broussard and wild. Saying that's perfect. It's the play was just inception into our brains so go ahead broussard. But i assume yours would look the exact thing i was told i can only switch one guy. One guy moves up or down. Which is a problem because a lot of this needs to change. Here's the guy switch lynyrd and luka doncic the disrespect for lynyrd is outlandish nick right. This is a guy that's got to championships. That led the team to a title. That plays both ends of the floor. And you're putting luka doncic ahead of him now. I got luke i said earlier in the show. Luca will win the mvp. That's my prediction. So you might be saying. How do you move him down. The best player in the world doesn't necessarily win. Vp steve nash. One two in a row and he was never the best player in the league. Maybe not even top. Five dirk nowitzki won. Mvp was never viewed as the best player as a world shack. Only one one a was a player for several years so that is not the issue winner. Plays both ends of the floor. He luka doncic has not yet won a playoff series not here at one eight playoff series and titles and your disrespecting me like this show a little love. Timite nick right. My goodness okay is charred and his love of the clippers standards. This is a bridge too far. I mean if we're just going to say it's reputational and it's guys who are two time champions who play both ends of the court. That i guess i need came allows you want hire up here as well but unfortunately for a the guy. It's based on this season. I'm old enough to remember the playoffs last year. Where you're right. Lucas team did lose to quiz team. Even though luca thoroughly and completely outplayed leonard in that series averaging a humble thirty one ten and nine and the game winning shot in what was that game. Four of the series right in kalis alway. None of though it wasn't in glides. I because the best defender in basketball wouldn't up all theories and then in the next round got a three one lead. And what did he do. What he did. Just melted down. It's like oh no too much pressure ono. We're up seventeen o for eleven in the second half of the game seven. Everyone's making fun of way off peak because he's hitting the side of the backboard. Meanwhile i'm not even taking the shots. Not somebody calling reggie jackson. Where's marcus morris. Williams come save me. What russert lease what. Least co why has gotten to the level where there's expectations and pressure on him. Your guy luke and even at that level yet anything. Luca there was gravy because nobody expects anything and you got him as the second third best player in the world. I love do. He is awesome. Like i say he might average a triple double this year but to put him right now ahead of kawai leonard ahead of jaanus head of anthony davis that is blasphemy. Okay if you want him to. If you wanted to argue that jaanus or anthony. Davis should be replacing luca. I wouldn't be so apoplectic but you've got a wide not only replacing luca but jumping ahead. I'll be honest and anthony. Davis get outta here. We just saw here happen. We can't pretend. I know you was the worst moment of your sports. Light watching the clippers down your lifelong team. You can't pretend it didn't happen. I know you wanna forget it but we can't it for this for the sake of this analysis you think just because you throw out ten dollar words like apoplectic that you're going to win this argument you. You're just what you say that argument. You can't have it both ways. Nick right what did we see john this doing last year in the playoffs and even the year before in the playoffs. We shut him down. Played his yet. You've got him above. Quack anthony davis had nine point games. Five rebound gains in the playoffs. But you got him ahead of my goodness so cool why some respects i did i wild just so you know. Here's the respect. I show you why. I really really considered flipping him in bead and having why outside of the top ten but out of respect to what he accomplished famously. I left him there. It's okay can we put it that i have. I have one issue. We put up the whole pyramid please. So i can look because i. My guy is so far down on the pyramid. It's outrageous especially because we're talking about pyramids and triangles. That's like his thing. You can't have that low on any because it's something about the you know. The angles of the pyramid is really offensive. Doom so here are three reasons why kyrie's should be moved up multiple tiers multiple levels reason number one. The guys healthy interested. Not only is he posted on instagram. Saying he's eating quote clean high vibrational fruit. He's also played twenty games in the last nineteen months. So we've seen this. We know what he's healthy. He can be great reason number two. He's better with legends higher. Kevin durant is the better. Replace if you got. Kevin durant curry's right. There shouldn't be that big of a gulf between those guys because durant successes is success. Reason number three. With all due. Respect to dave cowans and build. Who who else was it. Bill de bush's writing best player coach bill russell best player coach nick so the fact that he's he's got those duties as well. I think we need to be moved up for his coaching and playing ability. Okay dave bush. I am ahead ben simmons. He needs to be ahead. Come ahead of been simmons. Ben simmons the last year. I'm gonna try conversation the way he would want to. So let me try to cleanse the air. Let me try to get the right. So i can be fair to cairo. I don't wanna be on their here. And i wanna make sure i'm in the right mind space to give a fair analysis of kyri shockers. Good i think the planets are nice and align. Thank you so much. So now we can talk about kyrie irving kyrie irving has never contributed to an ounce of winning when he was not alongside lebron james these. That's just a fact and in in fact when he was you can say well in cleveland when lebron got their those teams are terrible. No problem but in boston. They weren't and they were better every year by every metric as far as wins when he didn't play he got to brooklyn and that team. Sure as hell to me. Look pretty interesting in the bubble. What like they liked each other. In the bubble the team looked like add some fight even though they were basically the g. league nets so if we show the pyramid. It's gonna be hard pressed for you to find the guy. I should move kyri up for now. Do i think he is a transcendent score. Do i think he's the arguably the best ball handler and the history of the league. I do do. I think he contributes to winning. I don't do. I think alongside durant. He can be dynamic shore and you know. He hit one of the biggest john's ever no one. Us joining the island. No one's questioning the talent. Just tell me who you want me to move down. Tell you want me to move down semi. He want to argue women's okay. I hear him into could visit the year last year. Yeah go flip on coulda fe guy. Yeah flip them number one. You just said a guy that hit either. The biggest or second biggest shot in nba history. The guy that delivered the championships. To cleveland and twenty sixteen doesn't contribute to winning. That doesn't think if he did. I send me five footer. Cleveland wouldn't one no. okay well. the game was tied. The game was tied so the idea that they wouldn't have one. There's no evidence of that whatsoever. One points in game six. And then if i said if i said kyri has never contributed to winning i misstated what i thought i said was kyrie has never contributed to winning. When he's not alongside lebron james the greatest leader and player in the history of believe. We'll get to see if this changes this year. Now push come to shove if you if i am discounting diary because of the off court shenanigans and maybe i am. Maybe it's polluted my brain. That's why i tried to cleanse it. If you want flip kyrie and tatum. I'm okay with it if we want to move tatum down because he was the last guy to move. Kyra all my god tatum. Joe mowing blurry. Jamal murray donovan mitchell. You're a prisoner of the moment. Nick you because mitchell and murray were great in the bubble if that's the case put jimmy butler right. We'll all lebron if we ought his emphasis on the bug issue. Be jimmy butler dana miller. Second brian if that's what we're talking about because jason not the better than both of those guys okay the bubble. It's the playoffs and donovan. Mitchell whereas poison saying oh. I don't know all i know is donovan. Mitchell draft classes. Jason tatum his rookie. Season be a team in the first round. With donovan mitchell. I think and thirty six in the close out game and averaging nearly thirty for the series donovan. Mitchell than last year had multiple fifty point playoff games again. Same draft classes tatum. Jamal murray on the other hand out played head to head. A guy that you say should be second on the list. Coli leonard in the playoffs. I don't bubble out of bubble echo chamber echo chamber. That matters so jason tatum. I don't care if he grew seven foot four inches. This offseason gordon danny ainge yet. Can't i can't elevate him above guys who have actual pelts on the wall because once upon a time he dunked on lebron in a series average sixteen points per game. That's what i need to see. Has jason tatum been to out in the first round last year. I give it that. He's screaming and he's great. Don't get wrong with the put. Him ahead of jason. Tatum is ridiculous and jamal. Murray one good playoff which we can and probably will argue this all day to take a turn talk. Some lakers is a repeat over his shirt. For lebron. or we'll broussard's clippers turn around and win at all. That's an first things first. That sage smells terrible. Christmas day in. It's an nfl special. As the vikings take on the saints coverage begins at three thirty eastern on fox also available on nfl network and streaming on prime video. I love this promo so much. I wanted to last makes me happy. I wanted to talk a really great time for your whole foods. Prime performance brought to you by whole foods. Market your coaching for all things holiday. The los angeles lakers favorites to repeat his nba. Chance stein for the moment of truth before we get to that though. Let's get right there nick. I'm going to start with you. Who wins the final. Well listen spoiler alert america. Everyone's going to pick the lakers. And you know why kozs everyone should pick the lakers. Have the greatest player ever. They have another top four player in the league and they're super deep and they're going to win the title. The most intrigue is going to be. Who are they playing in those finals. Because as we learned in twenty years confused twenty nineteen twenty nineteen. That's right listen an injury or two and you can have massive finals upsets and nobody hopes injuries. Nobody wishes injuries. But the reason you don't just punt on a season is you don't know how the brackets gonna fall. You don't know who's going to tweak. An ankle could miss time. So i think we're going to get a lakers sixers. Nba finals and my rationale for that starred is the following. I think that the sixers as presently constituted massively upgraded coach least for the regular season. We'll see for the postseason. And i know that. Sounds disrespect disrespectful to brett brown. I guess it kind of is. But that's how i feel. I think their roster is for betters fars fitting. And i think they're going to get the best version of tobias harris. A guy signed a couple of hundred million dollars who's now reunited with the coach where he had his biggest professional success. I think embiid is going to get back on the trajectory. He was on two years ago when he averaged twenty eight and fourteen and being a fringe in the candidate. And the other reason. I like the sixers. Broussard is because if it doesn't work their escape hatch is acquiring james harden like their plan b. is acquire a top six player in the league. So i think it will work. But if it doesn't they still have a great path to the finals. So for that reason lakers sixers old school center matchup in the finals. Anthony davis joel. Embiid by the way is my nba finals. Pick with the lakers. Of course winning. I like a lot of what you said. i have to admit it. I've got the lakers winning the championship. And i do like philadelphia. I think doc is a big improvement. I think you'll have embiid on the box. More believe it or not they were like twenty four or something like that in the league last year in shots at the rim. Which is kind of ridiculous. When you've got a guy like joe olympic. Got more shooting around him. I i liked ben simmons. I know i say kyrie irving should be ahead of him and he should. But i do like ben simmons but it remains to be seen if in today's nba. You can have a primary ball handler. Who not only can't shoot but won't shoot and then your plan b with james harden. I agree. I love that. I would do it. Now if i'm philadelphia however bringing in harden at the trade deadline there's a lot of adjustment there so will they be ready to get to the finals. When right when they get james harden. I'm not sure about that. I'm going with brooklyn. I think kevin durant is going to be just what he was when he left. I think kyrie. Irving is unstoppable. Now that my only question with the net is kyrie's mentality will. He rubbed teammates the wrong way. Will his you know different. Allowed to say different types of behavior. Get on guys nerves. If not if they don't have those types of issues then brooklyn is going to be very very good. I think steve nass with mike d'antoni next to him. They will be good on the bitch. Alan joe hairs. You got some great role player. Spencer did what he cares revert. This team is deep. They can score on anybody. I think brooklyn's gonna win the east. I got the lakers over the nets in the finals. Here's my concern with brooklyn broussard. I think they're gonna have the number one offense in basketball and the only team that i think maybe could be closed is dallas but i brooklyn is going to be and there are going to be nights they score one hundred forty points and it looks easy i think joe harris is going to become a household name. They still have depth. They have so many scores. And even though i said what i said about kyrie he obviously is a transcendent ofensive. Talent what they don't have to be there the number one offense. They don't have to be a great defense but bussard. Why aren't they going to be a bottom five defense. Why aren't they going to be a horrendous defense. Which while in the regular season won't kill them in the playoffs. You cannot win with a bottom five defense that would be my concern with brooklyn. I don't see any super plus defenders aside for maybe jared allen on the entire roster. You got to rim-protector allen. And the andre jordan kevin durant is a good defender and when the stakes raise. We're playing for a championship. Not just to squeak into the playoffs. Several three seed. You can put it on guys it. We've got to defend now. The question is nash. mike. D'antoni we know one emphasize defense. But steve nash has got to be smart enough to emphasize defense. And he wasn't a great individual defender but a very good team defender. And that's what he can emphasize to some of those guys. There are great individual defenders. You know what i'm thinking. No one's talking about the bucks all reigning two time just sitting over there older holiday. No one's taken the bucks. So i'll take the books and nick. Here's what i wonder. We talked about all last year thirty minutes in the regular season. I'll come playoff time. What am i gonna do now. Take the training wheels off. Nope thirty minutes in the playoffs. I wonder if this is like look guys. I know you treat me with kid. Gloves i'm the franchise. Let me play. let me play. Let me get up to thirty five minutes. Thirty six minutes. Let me really push. And i know the analytics says we had the best point. Differential historically because We sort of manage my minutes. Let me turn me loose. I wanna play in the. And if coach bud is not receptive to that because an ask. But it's a demand from their franchise player. So i think that's smart and i think they should do that and i love jaanus. I two concerns about the bucks. One is i know who their best five are. I don't know that they have any depth at all and in the playoffs. That doesn't matter that much unless someone tweaks and ankle unless someone goes out and all of a sudden. You're playing a guy like dj augustine playoff minutes. And you can't do that on to my other question. Broussard with the bucks is data. Janas get better. Because if janas didn't get better they can't win. Four playoff rounds. I love him. I think one day you'll get better. But did he get better broussard. If not they can't win four rounds in the playoffs. Yeah i agree i mean. I think you'll improve is post game. His mid range jump shot three point shot but they got to get much better for them to win and remember. He still doesn't have that second star. Even lebron has always needed a second star. Yarmuth is the same way sleeping jobs on the way. Start sleeping on the boston gigs. I will see what my guy danny hopefully have done in the off season. Fancy now for certain things.

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Brady vs. Rodgers, Baker's Browns, New-look Nets, Jared Goff, Dak Prescott

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Brady vs. Rodgers, Baker's Browns, New-look Nets, Jared Goff, Dak Prescott

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Game in his first season in tampa rogers also had three touchdowns over the weekend and get green bay step closer to the super bowl. So go quarterback is more valuable to their team. That is to your talk. Tom brady or air. This really good topic really good question but a very simple answer. Aaron rodgers is the most valuable player in the nfl. So how could he not be the most valuable player to his team. As opposed to tom brady next other among shirley most valuable to your team. I can't give you thirty. Second takes back at us with some substances are let me back it up with some context and let me earn this check in the biggest games of tom. Brady season this season and the biggest game. Okay of. Tom brady season this season. Tom brady hasn't been the best player nor the most important. Why this. let's go to the game. We all remember most. The buccaneers beat the packers early on thirty eight to ten. How did they win back. Game because aaron rodgers threw one of three pick sixes of his career. He goes into that game having only thrown pick sixes and he nearly throws to in that game. Shout out to the buccaneers defense. Okay the next biggest game the most memorable game. We think of this season tom brady. And those buccaneers versus the sites. But in that game. Tom brady they dismantle the saints. If you will twenty. Tom brady had the second worst. Completion percentage all season his six worse passer rating all season. Do i third fewest yards all season so sell in the most dominant games that tampa has had this season. Tom brady hasn't been the most dominant player on the flipside. Aaron rodgers the two games you think of this season most important most impressive if you will. The packers beat the saints in new orleans week. Three thirty seven to thirty aaron rodgers he went off that game passer rating one hundred eight to three tugs. No picks aaron bald. Okay how about in that playoff game reverse the rams the number one defense in the league if you will aaron rodgers once again to tux no picks did is thing making dudes jump for the ball running it infra touchdown so the packers success is contingent exclusively contingent. If i can use to big words back to your success is exclusively contingent upon aaron rodgers' performance while the buccaneers. Tom brady don't play well. Okay auto. I disagree with you. You should have stayed high when you were floating around a this. Is your captain thirty thousand feet. You should have stayed up there but then you started to san you got stuck into you start parsing gaming ask. Your first line was enough. You could have just walked off set with the roles. Go hour fifty. Nine minutes left mass. I'm telling you do what you gotta do to stuck around now. I gotta cut you. Tom brady is more valuable to his team. And i'm gonna take a different approach. So he's gonna start here. What the meaning of value. Let's talk about the meaning. Is worth this talk about tom. Brady and what he means to a mentality to a team in terms of them building their culture diva and get to this place right here because tampa bay without tom. Brady wouldn't be here right now. But green bay. Oh they were just here last year with the same guy. So let's show you the value of tom. Brady the impact of tom brady to this losing team last year. That's now at the same level as aaron rodgers. one you have to respect No is so difficult for you me. Everybody the combine to respect intangibles and immeasurable because they can't quantify sir you only know when you see him and after saw it. You don't see you don't have the anticipation of foresight to see it coming just after the fact. But that's who. Tom brady is now when you look at tom. Brady one thing jumps out six rings and nine super bowl appearances. Obviously everyone sees debt. And then you look at aaron rodgers. You don't go to the same place in terms of greatness when you're talking about ultimate team success you go to one super bowl championship. So what does that do when you're a player on that team. I've been here before. I played crate hall of fame players. Breast and peace. Junior ceo bruce smith thurman thomas rj allegany. Thomas drew brees etc. They take you to a place in imagination. Because you like with them. We can do this. And what's your imagination is peaked. Guess what your motivation. All of a sudden starts to turn and you start to do more. You're almost wilt to do more than you even anticipated. Thought you could because of the presence of this one guy but it's not just tom. Brady's presence that has changed. Everything in tampa bay is his performance as well. Let's talk about tom. Brady in this system would no continuity in year one. I aaron rodgers continuity in year two in the same system system preferences full screen. Please look at the win. Loss column basically the same completion percentage who in the world would say that. Tom brady outperform aaron rodgers in the first year in the system. Like this passing yards per game. No way tom brady game. Okay here we go for tim. What passing touchdowns intersection. You've gotta be kidding. pass away oh come on. I thought that excuse me that green bay's aaron rodgers was the most skilled quarterback ever most talented quarterback ever. But as you know. Football is a great game of skill but a greater game a wheel and tom brady activates the wheel of all those around him. Can i talk to my camera. Let me is your argument. I don't have argument. I'm talking to my dog. Is your discussion point yet. Tom brady is thriving more in his ear. One aaron rodgers astrid loves the fact that everyone else and this is the. This is the greatest part about. Tom brady seriously if i had to say in one sentence technical to another planet they who is tom brady. I wouldn't even talk super bowl rings. I would say. Tom brady gets more out of people even if they give less of themselves. Think about that. That's called by in tom. Brady makes you compromise yourself. He said either. I need more. Come out or you said calm down and just play complementary football in this system either way it goes. It adds up to a greater success than even aaron rodgers. That's not very good points. Here's the issue. The issue at hand is it. Tom brady's doesn't even need to show what some time he box to win. A problem is. I don't know if that's opinion as much as that's fact let me get you back. I gotta take you about four. Let me take you back three days. How did the saints lose that game. How did the bucks win that game. The bucks scored all of their points off of saints turnovers. But you gotta still score. You gotta get indians. Quarterbacks messed up opportunities to get any so but you get four tries one one of the twenty one and the other one. You took a knee on so you got to do within red zone one and zone one of the lowest red zones okay. How did the nears beat that. Beat the packers. Aaron rodgers gave them. That game. Like tom brady every game. Every game comes down to give a take us come on. We're gonna do that at the point. In which defense only gives up ten points ten. You don't have to do a lot like look at a sale. Tom brady just didn't have to do a lot and his biggest game. And here's what. I will say because people always say what you knock for that go. No that's what i'm thinking. Not tom brady for that. But i'm not going to praise him for that. I'm just going to sit idle. Any knowledge is what it is not. Tom brady for not having to do a ton of work when they beat the packers. Absolutely not going to not. Tom brady for not having to work when they beat the saints. But what i am going to say. I'm gonna delegate respect and responsibility to whom it belongs to me. i'll look at it like this. The buccaneers have better defense. Got to do as much aaron rodgers he realizes each and every time. If i don't show up we don't win. Remember that saints game. I brought in mind week. Three the packers win thirty seven to thirty in the morning. He did that without davante adams. Aaron rodgers game is on the line. He gets a hard count the saints offsides and that wins the game. If you look for wins and losses for the packers look no further than how aaron rodgers performs contrast. You can look at tom. Brady's performance assume they lost but they could have won. Because of how that defense is. All you gotta do is look at aaron rodgers in a box score and that will tell you if the packers won or loss. That's why he's more value. I like that. Because i wanted to have a little tension here. Little dissension up here. But it's easy point to actually squash when you look at the fact that you want to go performance base. You're saying you can take away. Tom brady to win still based on those performances. i think. that's misleading. Because if you wanna talk about what. Green bay is everyone. Thinks is air rodgers than you think. Air jones devante add right. And you know. They're all individually great but at the top with that in that pecking order is obviously aaron rodgers. But when you think tom brady. We think of this arsenal this team around them. That is so tremendous offensively. Especially that tom brady. Just being propped up held up on their shoulders. Correct not necessarily right. Let's look at the offices of support. Aaron rodgers has versus office support. That tom brady's has. Rogers is one of only two quarterbacks in the entire nfl that had a top five rusher and a top five receiver. Oh wait a minute. Tom brady didn't had it okay. So now we're gonna start to say if their own who's playing quarterback but guess what. He has some weapons that even tom brady has. Let's also talk about tom. Brady didn't even have a top ten rusher or a top fifteen receiver. So now you start looking at it. Like what did the bucks have. They had twenty eighth rushing attack in the league. If you wanna talk about complementary football. Tom brady was pulling god's woodham even though we know those individual assets can play football. Mike evans chris got with look stupid. But at the same time as a collective tom brady was working with less in a system. He was learning on the fly. What no continuity and still went out there and deal with aaron rodgers deal which is basically get to the same place right now mono e mono so. I'm looking around. And i know that aaron rodgers is tremendous actually. There's no wrong answer to this thursday. Right gimme gimme Who you don't want. But i am going to go when i'm just know. Put it this way. Let's just go to another sport. It's just sports. Well could go trigger field. But i'm gonna go to basketball for once you're on a team and your own this team you like i. We're stuck up. We're trying to get over that same hump and then michael jordan watson forget. You don't even if he got on his old man jeans. You don't care what george he has on. What number just like michael jordan just walked in and he's on my team. You know what you start to do stuff. You never did before whatever that is so a response to what you're saying air raja's takes me to this level. But when tom brady because my teammate i go out of this world out of this universe to another stratosphere because the biggest thing and the biggest argument you have for tom. Brady is an argument in which we cannot quantify. That's the issue at hand saying. Tom brady everybody better. And six rings. And six his quantifying it is added. All y'all look to six rings what is you. Add up era one. I've done that six times. Like but different teams. Okay true true. But same affec- oh tampa bay before tom. Brady you wanna go here top. Brady's teams have going to conference championships. Fourteen of his one thousand nine healthy seasons so four percent. What about air rodgers. Forty two percent damn aaron rodgers. What's going on over there about the turnover. Impact the difference between james winston top ready. You wanna talk about scoring defense. How bad they were last year. How good they are this year like. Tom brady even putting his fingerprints. That's why he's the go he and he's got a touch everything but everything is going to be affected. It's crazy man coming up at the top of the hour to wash his days in houston numbered heard. We'll tell you what the texans should do with their star quarterback i baker mayfield got cleveland in the playoffs. But what tell you. His browns have a bright future. That's next this year. I'm going to eat better and spend less time in money at the grocery store. 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Let me stop them to hype when it because baker mayfield's into building when we talk baker. Mayfield you and i. We activate like wonder twins four of love and hate on baker mayfield. Here's the thing. I trust kevin stefanski. I really do his impact. And you're one who already documents. You need to go down a path but if baker mayfield is the driver not shotgun not right in the backseat. Not in the trunk where he's been sometimes as well if baker mayfield is driving this same car down this road. I don't trust whereas going. And i'm gonna tell you what when you look at this. Kevin actually total himself. He gave me coach speak. This is the first time. I looked at kevin stefanski sideways. That reminds you alex. Van pelt my former teammate is office coordinator did a tremendous job. Baker mayfield had his best year. And all of that still is not enough to convince me that. He's a franchise quarterback and his team is heading into right direction with baker. Mayfield driving. okay. Kevin stefanski comes out and says quote. I think you saw growth from him as a player from the first game to the last. Now you will take that at face value as you should like. Yeah we saw baker mayfield mature right before our very eyes on and off the field. But then you know me to a literalist like i really listened to everywhere. I listen everything you say. Boy a myself sometimes listening to everything you said. But i took this quote now starting to digest self. That's a lie. I saw baker. Mayfield week one. I saw baker mayfield. Last week that do went to a roller coaster ride and i don't even know if it landed higher than it started. Let's talk about this. I'm gonna give you a full screen right now and to tell you what this four screen is about is about. Baker may feel how he started this season of corn kevin stefanski and now he finished the season according to kevin stefanski. Tell me if this tells you. Baker mayfield better. His first game was against the baltimore ravens. Gus matt thirty eight to six right. Remember that now. What a game that starts at fifty three point eight completion percentage you. What thanks you could do. No worse over. Baker mayfield found a way not only once but twice to play worst games than that by completion percentage. What when the bar is that low like the bar in the ground are married to each other. He still found a way twice to be worse than fifty three point. Eight percent. okay. Whatever this move on a yards. Nobody gives a damn about yards. Except maybe a team. If you're trying to move up and down the field whatever he starts off with one hundred eighty nine passing yards in week one five other games. He was worse than that whole. We're not saying he started off at four hundred yard passing game like dak prescott one eighty nine. You have five games worse than that okay. let's move off. Forget that pass a test downs one. That's pretty low too. I mean the only thing lower zero. Well you have four games. Worst net in terms of performance famous may move marcellus just starting to hurt passer rating sixty five which is almost thirty points lower than league average. He started there too fast. He makes believe he never was as bad as it twice he was and last but not least turnovers and this is a tricky one. Because i know. I talked to come up here and talk about his touchdown interception ratio but auto turnovers aren't created equal. Guess what there are intercepts and are also fumbles. This dude stop throwing interceptions. Bumbling the football so fast he stopped lying to the people. This guy started off nine and three ended up the finished the season three three five hundred player and where he is right now. I don't know. But i would love to vacation with him because kevin stefanski as much as i trust you. I can't trust everywhere. And i can't trust direction. It baker mayfield is driving. I like the take marcellus game out and you through some great punches. And i respect bodybuild body. I'm gonna use your own words against a. You are so far in the forest sir. You can't see them. Tree cannot see the trees. So i don't necessarily care that much. Who went driver is when i'm on a road trip as long as the. Gps works gps as long as gps works. I don't really care if they can't drive. All i need you to do is trusted. Gps you know if you can't drive driver's licenses renewed that i'm not tripping gps maker mayfield. I trust you drive in particularly. Have kevin stefanski your. Gps system is working and calibrated but beyond that marcellus while the the talk about the other thing guest how can you not trust a brown and the browns future being bright when this team is talented. But the only thing that exceeds their talent is the lack of age. I'm going somewhere so young. Yeah i ll histories. Companies don't young ascending talent. Especially you charge them after. You're seeing to look the brown brown star players and y'all doing it up. I'll talk about it. Matt wilson the linebacker that hit patrick mahomes not twenty two denzel war twenty-three baker mayfield twenty-five nick chubb kareem hunt. Miles gave it all twenty five. Then you got there. Three all pro offense sublime tongue in twenty-six. Tell her twenty six but tonio. Twenty nine jarvis. Landry twenty eight. This team is extremely young. They are are extremely hungry. The only way you could not see the cleveland browns as having a bright future. If somehow some way you decide to put sunglasses on or let me give you a better analogy. You know when you go to sleep and you're trying to go to sleep and if i it's extremely dark after. Turn off the lights in your room. You casey nothing you see. Nothing tastes to leave your eyes open for long enough and your eyes begin to calibrate or adjust to the certain dennis in your room. The only white marcellus that you can look at them around and say their future is not bright is if your eyes begin to adjust to just how bright this season what you might look at next season in the browns go nine and seven disgusting travesty even if they still make the playoffs because your is have now adjusted to just how bright these cleveland browns are. But there's no way that you can look at the browns youth and their roster. You'll get the talent plus you look at the success. Under their first year head coach kevin stefanski. Their future is not bringing really not riding anywhere. Which you like you said yesterday. Why drive when you can fly. Guess what. I'm not taking a road trip and no sixteen year old driver. No care you've got license. Yo driver training certificate. Get out my face youngster. Because you're not experienced enough. But i like your argument. You know me. I like to follow people's arguments and try and get them with their own. Words of course is young. How to turn turnout this year for young quarterback. The hat tremendous success before better. Success than even baker mayfield jared. Goff was young still is young house. That we're gonna jared goff right now. I continue but i think you get my point as big rube from dungeon. Let's look deeper than that. Are you an outcast. You'll find that reference later. Here's the thing. Let's look deeper and use otto's words baker mayfield's the top ten quarterback with bottom tam perception. I repeat america. Baker mayfield. Is the top. Ten quarterback were bottom team perception. Then you look at him. As his ranking showed that he's not top ten in anything. Complicit percentage nope he's thirtieth twenty four yards per eighteen yards seventeenth and yards per attempt fifteenth and passer rating twelve in passing touchdowns and he shares touchdowns at ten. So that means. You're not by yourself. Okay so i need you to understand one. I'm looking at you. Being a franchise quarterback the first thing. I need is consistency. Okay think i need your ability to be there but you wouldn't even be in this conversation. Had ability never to slight baker mayfield. He can't play the game of football. The do can play football. He plays football like this and did it. Soon as you start believing in him up there he gonna play football like here. You start counting them out. Did he go right back to here. He's yoyo and you know. I'm tired of the wing bob baker mayfield. Look at this inconsistency big dog you can see him go out there and his best game of the year followed by some of his most mediocre performances. Week seven twenty. Two or twenty five touchdown passes and a win over. The bengals happen the next week. Twelve twenty five hundred twenty two sixty two pass rating no tests now. Okay whatever we thirteen twenty five or thirty three thirty four. Whatever we fourteen sixty completion percentage interception and a loss to the ravens eighty-seven rating dog. I hate to do this to do because you keep asking me the same questions that give you the same exact answer. Which is baker. Mayfield and to you can show stability consistency. You're not get behind the wheel. Certain i'll let you varada shotgun you've got telling around you young talent but you're not to drive but you have to and we're not talking specifically about baker mayfield saying are baker mayfield's brown. He's bright yes. He's a quarterback. Rose look at everything he's conducting. Some things are opinionated. Something factual k. I think the issue at hand is you're adjusting your expectations based upon a certain criteria. That teams are hitting. What's my point. Yeah go there you say. And what's going on with him in the eagles. Let me remind you. Eagles had a six season. Eagles had a seven win season. Eagles go to the super bowl nine nine when season and then this year hell broke loose compared to nine when seasons the two of them after the super bowl to the six seven when seasons the two of them and florida super bowl. That's still a bright future but in your eyes are saying you know what this isn't right because they've gone to a super bowl. My point is this. Let's talk about other teams who've had new coaches. They've gone from bad to great okay. Matt nagy chicago bears. They go five and eleven he shows up. They go twelve and four. They made the playoffs two out of the last few years but let a bears fan. Tell it all the bears are terrible. No don't adjust your expectation to what your work because the bears haven't lost more than eight games since matt nagy showed up but the four years prior to him showing up boss twelve games lost eleven games on twelve games last ten games. So don't discount was a relative to cleveland conversation again. it has to be relative to future. The future can only be bright dependent on your past. Now your future is. If i was if i was broke. You say to your five. Toby staying was brought. Well then coming into money makes future bride. If i if i only made fifty thousand dollars a year then one hundred thousand dollars a year. Salary is bright futures. One hundred thousand dollars to you as poverty right now so the past it dictates your future. You can't say that the brown through nine games or ten games is in bright. Keep up pockets out these things. I will say it is. Let me stop sweating. 'cause i'm over here laughing and also hot that you don't understand where i'm coming from. I'm saying this would no malice. I'm just trying to do my job and do it. Well you can't be league average. Call yourself a franchise quarterback. You just can't tell. Don't do what you can be. You know why because if you play against yourself you play cleveland versus cleveland. Every week you could be league average all you want. Oh is you're going to play against other quarterbacks that are league average and what's going to happen to you you going to get but that's mahomes. Who is patrick. Mahomes i get it. Y'all don't act. Like i don't see it. When out there and beat baker mayfield baker mayfield played a full game. He played half back. Patrick mahomes said our play. Half the game is still beat you. He put up. Nineteen and did and baker mayfield backup. Couldn't go past seventeen. You know what that tells me. If i'm running a franchise. I like baker mayfield. I really like baker mayfield. But i'm not in love yet because we can't even beat a backup in the most meaningful moment and their starter only gave him half the game and it was still enough to beat us. Let me say the big animal. Need you to love baker mayfield. I need you to respect him and problem right now. Is you're not doing as a result. You're not respecting the browns mayfield. You talk about all these stats. How could he be franchise when he's average marcellus wiley thirty passing touchdowns and ten or fewer interceptions. Let's just wolf into backs less. Just look at thirty. Plus passing touchdowns ten fewer picks. I said it yesterday but now my show you the aaron rodgers. The man. You just mentioned patrick. Mahomes allen shawn watson ryan tannehill. Herbert that is the list. Be complete list of quarterbacks with thirty passing touchdowns and ten interceptions all do franchise every one of them. Now they're don't mean maker is anti. Don't mean baker is different levels and bigger resume this franchise baker had just as many winds the had more to wins on his list. Rogers mahomes and josh allen. You're talking about this share hall you. You got this job just because what you did this. You voiced stop blau spill. You'll be right now because you know you for years. Anyway you built this thing up to get here right so now you're working with equity now. You won't minimum now. the wind is at. Your brother is pushing you but baker mayfield. Didn't have any win. Last year was a sophomore slump. There was okay so you come in with no win and then this year you come in and you look good. You look great and you also look bad. Just be real about this. Here's inconsistency once again when it mattered. Most we saw baker mayfield in the wildcard round three touchdowns one fifteen passer rating and beat. The steelers slammed the steelers. See i give him credit but then what happened the next week and a half against the starter when you played the whole gang baker two hundred and four yards pick touchdown and seventy four rating show. Ninety five is the threshold of average. We even say good. Great we set average this do goes out and they go to kabul cancun. what a seventy four rating. That's my point and you know his record when you asked him to throw the ball thirty five or more pass attempts in game. Baker mayfield is five and fifteen you try and tell me we can't win shootouts. We can't win games when we need you to win the game. What can we win. It's just a big pot of inconsistency it till he can poke his head out outside of that pot as show me that he is baker. Mayfield and go stand on the same ground. This wavering is see-saw set. i'm not for. Here's the issue. And i think the issue and the point in which you and i differ is okay. We're looking at this graph. And you're drawing a conclusion of baker mayfield. You were inconsistent last year. But now you're up. Here pecan you might be inconsistent again in kasese this year though point everybody this year had inconsistent things. I just told you about tom. Brady consists in the game in which they just want against the saints. He had stirred completion percentage. Even tom brady the green out. Teslarati has bad games. These laws continue. But but you can talk about lows but eventually we have to take a step back and look at the whole picture. You're looking at things so closely that parsing out each and every letter. Can you look at the sentence because the senate makes sense. let's read the sentence in totality. Let's not just look at I don't know if i like the design a all. That h doesn't look. Why did we put an eye there. Why don't you just look at the sentence on critique the sentence i said you know because every word adds up to make a sentence you take a word out of a sentence guess what ena sentences sounds that grammatically incorrect data prob. So here's the thing. This is my last point. I'm not in love with baker mayfield. That i don't hate them. I'm in life. Would you been in like you ever have. Somebody gives you that love letter. Yes no or maybe remembered. Here's a maybe for me. I'm checking maybe for him but not yes and not even know but the point is the browns cleveland browns baker mayfield's brown kevin stefanski browns. Oh the only team to make the playoffs this year. Despite being outscored in the regular season the negative point differential and they're heading in the right direction. Blue boy stop. you better. Check yo sentences coming up. James harden is off to an undefeated. Starting glenn brooklyn in the house without a doubt. The new look nets have put the nba notice. That's next vegas point differential. Hey speak for yourself listeners. It's charlotte wilder here to tell you about my new podcast. Mark titus called the people's sports podcast. It comes out every thursday. And mark. And i take on the big stories of the week and then we go off on tangents. You never saw coming. This might mean that we start talking about the dodgers winning the world series and end up wondering if knicks fans deserve happiness or begin with lebron's greatness and end up drafting. Our ultimate beer league softball team made up of old athletes whatever. 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I'm so appreciative. You said ato you look good today because based on this outfit you said i look good but so if i started to add pieces to fit here not convinced that you were still think this outfit. Good one one. Extra addition and all of a sudden detracted from originally looked good. So i'm not gonna sit here and say the nets with james harden and kevin durant but good because that's not the new york mets. The new york nets are still missing a piece. And i told you addition by subtraction. If they're going to be subtraction addition by subtraction there can be subtraction by addition i am waiting to cast judgment on a new look midst until the outfit complete. O-man you know. They didn't put anybody on notice other than what we expected. Which is james harden and kevin durant score the ball and do they have chemistry from this being their second time around absolutely. But i had a feeling that was going to go this direction and widely. Mike not go. Thanks what i appreciate. That marcellus might be the nerd methodology. Methodic i decided that i would bring the stats are nerve guys. Either one of you look up the number of dribbles there's a stat where they rank players. Based on the number of shots they take after zero dribbles dribble all the way up to seven plus dribbles. You know who's third on that list that would be. James harden does fourth on the list. Now would be hiree irving so two point. They looked good with harden durant absolutely. It's what we would have expected whether this is going to work for. The nets depends on hiree and james harden working together and we've got to all dominant guys and we haven't seen them on the floor yet so until we do. I can't pass judgment on whether this nets experiment is actually going to work. Oh interesting well. I think it'd be is on notice and yes. I am a nerd. Very proud of it Look book right now. Clippers and nets and the finals lakers and nets and i. It hurts me to say that. But i gotta be real and do my job even the nerd i am. Let's be real about what's happening right now. Because there are no since they got back together on a four game winning streak. They are terrorizing opponents. Simply stated first team ever to score thirty or more points in the first two games together because that is a fact and the fact of the matter is the east is wide open. The east is for the taking. Y'all understand what my perspective is based off of the relative experienced competition level. Let's look at the sixers. This look at the nets and let's look at the bucks who they beat last night. Those are the only three teams in the east with nine wins okay. I mean we know. Miami's going to beat air. We could go out there and say some other teams as well boston. But the tease at the top right now. Sixers bucks and nets. They just took care of the bucks. What kyrie irving y'all without the wool cap. Whatever the hell that was put on your career game is a wool. Cap stop is much fresher than that silky if you really want to go there. So here's the thing. What's your imagination. You could go a lot of places. Selective perception yuki the love. Something that you don't know just shit you could hate something you don't know this shit or you could use what you guys are employing right now. Apathy i don't know i don't care we'll see but here's the thing being ambivalent to the situation is not going to help you because you have to make a decision just like opponents already. In two games had to make a decision. I give you two examples yacht as yesterday after the loss. He's like joe. This is what they do as quote they wake up. They come into the game score thirty. You don't lock them down. They could score fifty. Oh what about the last possession for the same nets team that right. Now we're still undermanned. Kicking out the hard. He misses it. Artist rebound kevin durant. Gets the ball bucket game over. This is just the beginning. This is just a building this just a stepping stone to what's going to be great and put everyone on notice if you don't wanna listen you don't wanna look be my guest but here's the problem. You're gonna be late to this party. Here's what the real problem. And i think the problem that you're new orleans this marcellus. Where are kyrie. Shos going to come from yesterday. James harden took twenty five shops yesterday. Kevin durant and beating the bucks to twenty one shots. Six other players played in that game of the other players combined to take twenty six shots. So of james harden took twenty five and five players combined to twenty-six cell where kai shops come. Come frog. I guess they might come from jeff green they might come from. Joe harris. Put away those two players combined to go nine for twelve from the three point line. Kyri ain't going nine for twelve from the three point line so again i ask you. It can be rhetorical. You can ponder it is. You're trying to figure out your other life goals and where are kyrie's shots going to come from because if they come from hardin that'll help the team if they come from katie. That definitely don't help the team. It also appeared that they come from jeff green harris. That's not helping the team so again. Just because you get kyri on the court who is a walking bucket. That can be an issue. 'cause you already got buckets. I'm gonna go right past the fact that we also don't know how much of kyrie irving we're going to get. He just missed two weeks and we don't know exactly why or what which leaves us with wondering. Is he going to be gone again. How long is he going to be gone but again. Because marcellus is the nerd. I will stay with the statistical argument. Because i pretty much nailed everything else. Let's go away from the three. Let's go away from the shots because offensively. Yeah even the look they all wanna make it work and i have doubts. That kyrie irving wants to be the third wheel. But let's say they make that there's the other end of the floor and right now. The brooklyn nets defensively our bottom half of the league defensively rebounding bottom half of the league when it comes to rebounding and as you guys know we like even with with with football we love to talk about the skill positions and the quarterback and the wide receivers and running backs but the difference between winning a few big games and winning them all is in the trenches with the lines and that equates to the defensive end of the floor for nba team so yes are they going to be dynamic offensively. I expected that with thai rian k. D. alone are they going to be able to get it done defensively when they traded some of their best defensive players in order to get articles. That is the part of this equation. That i have yet to see an have my doubts that we will all slick rig man all those books up there and if my teachers to do when you grab a book start opening see within pages stick. Oh none of those books pages thick because they'll look much you know why defense matters and you went to that really okay. So how the hell do the lakers win a championship. When they allowed the most points per game hice opponent field goal percentage highest opponents three-point percentage in the last twenty years. Oh this matters. Bubble are you bringing. Hey hey hey to ask you. Were i wanna go. Hey we say it doesn't count. Did we have a whole different show. But the point is you can't now don't undermine what the championship looked like. They'll undermine experts now just because you've got to win this point about defense this talk about. Hey y'all i'm out the bubble now my big got up now. I'm going on offense right here. More importantly not just what james harden and kevin durant and terms of buckets. But what is doing to the defense that they're playing against did y'all hear drew holiday talk yesterday. See i do this man. I really do this. This is a passionate watching. Jrue holiday talk about this team. He said yeah trying to defend those two net to not even three. He said to give the role players too much room. Joe harris we just talked about knocked down five three pointers and finished with twenty points. Here's the thing which are not imagining. Because i am an eternal optimist and you guys are put dedic pessimists. Here's the thing that ball won't player debt drew holidays talking about one. Now who's guard him. We'll be role player. Oh my goodness what is this going to look like. When knows to out their combined forces and activate now would career looked like to look like a lot smaller than yesterday when they lost the rebounding battle and gave up fifty five to milwaukee. And you haven't said anything own bout defense care about ringing. James harden going to be able to depend on the lakers soviet that their offense was going to be better. I get that delivers. Where does that comprise the defense marcellus. Ignoring the one pivotal point will completely undermine his defense since two thousand and one in two thousand and two season. Nba finals team. That wasn't top ten in defensive rating one else sale. It's been twenty years to win a chip. You have to be top ten and even the rating and you looked up. Were third last year so sure. I'm he's in the bubble. Yes but sell. If you wanna win it all you gotta learn how to play some defense. You acting out like careers hard anymore. Upset the sun watts it. We'll tell you what the texans should do about next. I compared to change. I compare champs against speak for yourself. i'm ourselves while he is emmanuel alcohol back on all right. let's head to houston for many people. Believed the shawn. Watson has played his last snap as texting. According to adam schefter this follows. The news that washington was furious over texas hiring. Gm nick caserio without consulting him now. Reports say he is not returning to teams phone calls and could hold out if he does not get traded. Another report says houston has had internal conversations about possibly trade partners. Wish should texas. Do about the shawn watson big dog they don't have a choice The texans are held hostage. They should do. What does shawn watson wants them to do really marcellus you know how hard it is to find a top five quarterback in the nfl. Obviously we all know how hard it is to find. A top quarterback deshaun watson is consistently proved. He is top five his first year in the league. He was playing at an mvp caliber level tears as well. The sun watson be back. That was the question then this year. He plays it another top five quarterback level but the texans because their infrastructure is terrible. They win no games so unfortunately it is very counterintuitive to society but these very rich older gentlemen and women running this team are going to have to defer to the longings of this twenty five year. Old kid in there is but the fact of the matter is better. Do what the shawn watson wants you to do. Because if you lose the shawn watson then you just about lose everything as far as imminent success much easier to find a head coach that you can choose from than it is to find a quarterback that you can choose from so unfortunately texans. Your are tied. Watson wants you to do. It's probably in your best interest that do that and interesting We're gonna have a conversation dollars preferably not. Mlk day good law. I want to be more peaceful than this may go Here's my answer to this question rid of the problem and if that includes back if that includes him then it does. Let me tell you why this. Shaw has been all over the place with this one one place. He shouldn't have been on twitter cryptic messages or just indirect messages. Whatever it is fanned into flames. How come your franchise quarterback deshaun watson we told people don't protest off after two to ten and all of these other ones. I don't even stay on twitter like that. No but i do know. Come on man. You're franchise quarterback you gotta act like a franchise quarterback in all situations. We know in the field when a receiver drops your past. You can't go. Does that quarterbacks trying to make a name for themselves when you are a made man like washington. You know what they're gonna do. Tom brady does it every time. Aaron rodgers does it every tunnel. Because they know they're going to be on the other end of the stick one time very soon. Here's the thing context matters and in this situation. I'm gonna tell you ownership is thinking. This is one thing. I've learned in my age in my experience is that the other side of the table needs to be understood before you start throwing your blows know who you fighting again. Just okay styles. Make fights okay. No who you fighting against. No cal. Mcnary mcnair stand for in this conversation and be as specific as possible. This is not generalize. This talk about mcnair situation. The shawn watson is a top five quarterback. No doubt okay respect. But you know that. All the top seven quarterbacks made it to the pro season except one okay. So you know what they're saying. Interesting show watson. I ask of you. You're twenty nine. Wins and four years. And your playoff appearances. What is the drastic difference between you and the twenty nine wins. We had the four years before you do more sanded. Playoff opponents marcellus wiley peaceful show. No hey you argue with numbers all they going to stay the same. You may change. Here's the thing the question of. What does shawn watson has. Delta texas is the answer to what the texas should do for shawn watson outside the pay him one hundred sixty million dollars for him not to take his top five self and his team to the playoffs. So here's the thing this is going to get real gangster and discus still end in a win win situation. Here's how it's a win win this shot. We have embarrassed you. We have upset she. We have irritated you. Whatever you're in your phyllis but you are there. We don't have a first round pick. We'll have a second round pick. Well have a lot of fix. We could get a lot of picks for you to shawn watson if you don't want to come to the table and be amicable about this situation so my last situation have point to is look at this. When you look at the shot watson being in this conversation putting himself in this position why would you sign for a hundred sixty million dollars. We'll bill uprise. Gm and everybody knows bill. O'brien was set tripping at the gm position. Not as bad as a coach as he was as a gm. Okay why would you si- for one hundred and sixty million dollars months later today already shipped number one receiver you side up for these issues and now you've got an issue. What the same issues. You signed up for watson. I would love to hear your counter to the other side of the table was talking about. We gotta bring him fox. Nfl analyst bucky brooks bucky. Worst the texas. Do about the shawn watson. Nothing absolutely nothing. They sit there and let him continue to talk about it. That everyone on social media talk about this is the first step plan power movement and he has all the leverage and all those things it's accurate. It's not true quietly when they did the they kind of made a provision into twenty twenty. Cba they made it very punitive to hold out and so when the shower watts inside his contract and he got twenty seven million dollars as part of a signing bonus as part of a four year one hundred and sixty million dollars extension. He signed up to be the franchise quarterback of the houston texans. He was really smart and ahead of the game when he put in a no trade clause but he is not going to be traded because they have all the leverage here the houston texans because they paid him. He agreed to the deal now he can kick up dust and make do all these things in public but when it comes time to play and a report to training camp he asked to report the training camp for the fires are so hefty that he can't avoid it and so when people are talking about him withholding services. He can't withhold his services and less he's willing to walk away from significant money. And we all know when it begins to hit you in your pocket. That is when things happen. And so they can put up with all of the outside noise and all of the speculation and the fanny fantasy football trade speculation that we will make on sports talk tv and radio but at the end of the day he has to report. Es to come and get his money and he's going to get it. So the texans can listen. They can try and meet them halfway. They can offer him an olive branch and really improved the communication. That has been lacking. But he's not going anywhere. Houston texas every franchise quarterback and he is going to stay in houston. Here's what i'll say. I'm gonna say two things. I agree with you bucky and marcellus to it to a point and say why does everything always got to be a power struggle. Man turned this into a fight when there's a very simple resolution communication and what i say. Nobody wins when the family feuds texans. Y'all don't win and assan. He might not necessarily win. Because y'all the flu feuded. We don't have to make this into a struggle. Let's just talk about it now. I gotta push back on. You wanna say two names and y'all can try to draw the conclusion and find the through line. Remember when earl. Thomas necessarily want to play for the seahawks. Just not show what he just showed up and have some injuries. Jalen ramsey wanted out of jacksonville. He didn't just not practice. he just happened to have a back spasm. Herea messed up. Put their personal issues. Here so technically. Y'all can't find me because now i'm aletsch. I'll find the through line. And the point of no between what else saying this a notice. Find the loopholes in well tucson watson. We're gonna find you if you don't practice. Well i'm hurt. So i don't know what you want me to do. I messed up my thumb earlier today. I i messed up my pinky yesterday. So i'm hurt. I'm not choosing not to practice. I'm injured coach. I don't know what you want me to do. You can't find me for being hurt. Players are smarter than they ever have been. Agents are smarter than they ever question. John wants because what does shawn watson wants. More than likely the shawn watson is going to get like jalen ramsey got what he wanted and at the time roy. Thomas was the highest pay state safety when he got what he the differences. The shawn watson. Those guys were seeking to get their money bone. He already has his money today. And if you're houston houston in just sit and wait and if he wants to play the injury game and all those other things like this cool. But if you're the houston. Texans like we understand that. This is a long play not a short play. Because if you're cassara what you're doing is you're trying to reestablish the culture in houston you cannot let the players have all of the say when it comes to how the organization is going to be run on the now i understand. The franchise quarterback is different than any other player on the thing and it is a cooperation so we need to mend fences from communication and trust standpoint. But i'm not letting sawassan walk out of the building. And so if he's injured in her that's cool but how long is he going to play. That game is he willing to play the game for an entire season and withholding services through an injury. Well let's see if they're really plays out because at some point he has to come and he has to play. And if i'm the texans. I'm willing to play this out. Yeah man shawn watson such high character. Such high performance dizzy really wanna compromise and undermine that character right now to go through this process. And what does this process you find ownership for the same power that you want to possess. What's this does that. Make guys like the shawn watson. Nearly is such a good guy. He doesn't wanna be a bad guy and really come out there and profess what he really wants. So he's going to all these other measures antics and twitter to do it. Which is funny because you you a bible man you a man of the you talk to the daddies deacon be hot or cold not luke warm i shall speech you to versus could only read to verse was. He's in five in my life. No i don't buy almost backwards. Only to apply to sports ownership of trump cabinet. Nancy this guest. I am talking to me. This case i am before you walk into a room at least anticipate not guess anticipate with other size gonna say you gotta understand man. I gave you all this money. I gave you all the opportunity. Your beloved. don't think you'd only wanted to city. jj watt. Don't think you'd only wanna has high care tunis. Jj watt million hurricane harvey. Don't think you'd only one. But it's all good because you are franchise quarterback but be catholic because your you're to playoff appearances in your twenty nine is the same. I got out of bras. Same i got outta brian. hoyer like fitzpatrick shop. Who was a good player. The point is this could go any way you wanted to go. But i'm just say this and this. This is just me living living through my experiences. Trying to see this situation from what. I've been through before it's classic high on the horse mentality is simple. You didn't sign this deal and didn't expect that they were going to be issues. You have something going on upstairs. That was a problem and bill. O'brien you knew. You didn't have a number one wide receiver. And i'm really trying to say. Is he really lose his mind and lose his opportunity and lose his job with the houston texans over nick a stereo like like nicosia. Real doesn't have that bad a resume for you to be like. Oh i can't do it or is it really over airbnb me. Whatever is over. So i need to sound to say it would chest. Don't be luke more brother. If you want to say you the franchise quarterbacks here's the issue and here's the final conclusion. I see nothing to shawn watson sees. He's area and he saw the shawn watson saw arian foster spend the majority of his career with texans. Never make it past the divisional round of the playoffs. Saw andre johnson seven time pro bowl spend the majority of his career with the texans. Never make it past divisional. Round of the playoffs he saw. Jj watt a five time pro bowler three time. Defensive player of the year spent his career with the texans and never make it past the divisional round of the playoffs and he saw his boy deondraye hopkins five time pro bowler spend the majority of early career with the texans and never make it past the divisional round of the playoffs. Does shawn watson is trying to calculate complicated equation was the cost of happiness. What's the cost of legacy was the cost of success. Either way the shawn watson is willing to pay the price coming up. Tom brady is still in the play offs. Check not so much. We'll tell you brady has already won the divorce from his former cope next week. Welcome back to speak for yourself. Tom brady and bill check out. The most wins ever for quarterback and coach combo but the love of success have gone in opposite directions since they parted ways is on his way to his kate championship game in his first year in tampa while ballot check finished his worst record as patriots head coach since his first year with the team. Twenty one seasons ago. Our guy buggy burqas is back with us but marcelo. Has tom brady already. Won the divorce from bill belichick. No a and rarely. Do i get agitated by just a question because it's just a question some words connected to each other. Why should i get so mad. I get so upset when i hear people because you know how we are role in our personal lives. Everyone comes to us like oh man. They are sports sports. Like everything has motifs bookie man accused game. Caspi hit me like see. Brady prove that bella check wasn't the guy and i'm like what the hell my best example. My best example is me being angelino a los angeles native and live it through the kobe. Shack divorce is my best example of this one. One we have to respect in this race bella check and brady. They're running two different races. Bell check is running a marathon. Brady is britain. Because he knows he's forty three. And how long can you play. You could play forever. But he won't we while you're talking about coaching. You can't coach almost forever closer than you can as a player so the kobe shock break-up comes to mind because when they divorced everyone was sitting there. Low kobe three rings shack has three rigs but check history finals. Mvp slight asked a shack. But we don't see and then shot goes out there freestyle and on kobe's head all the time and win a championship with the way way and everyone and everywhere you went. News always about shacking. What about kobe but they were running the same race and kobe was running that racist a little bit longer to the point where he ends up passing shaquille o'neal and terms of ultimate success. My point is this. We all let this race. Just go let this race just continue. Let's check this out at the finish. Line 'cause bella tech look at tom brady and britain but guess what belts are like. I'm running a marathon. Go ahead and take the early lead. It all depends on who wins. Who's there at the finish line So got to push back back half to. They're actually running the exact same race. Why because bill belichick is the oldest coach to have ever won a super bowl. no he's already defined age odds himself. Tom brady is the oldest player now to have gone this far as the quarterback position. So they're both in foreign and uncharted waters and uncharted territory. We've never seen a coach. Older bill belichick check when a super bowl. We've never seen a quarterback. Tom brady win the super bowl so we don't know the ends of either of their races so for that reason. They're in the same race now. I'll tell you this if tom brady wins. The super bowl this year there is nothing bill. Belichick can do to say that. He'd won the divorce. Because tom brady would have won. It is over. It's done with the mic shack. The most impressive thing that tom brady and bill belichick did together. You say two thousand seven. They went eighteen know when they lost the super bowl. That was a thirty year old. Tom brady the year old randy. Moss some have argued the best receiver. The nfl's ever seen playing with the best quarterback the game has ever seen and they got to the super bowl loss now with tom brady in his first year in a new city with a new head coach with no wall season. It forty three years of age on a new team goes to the super bowl and whiz it. It's a done deal bro. Ain't no way. Bill belichick coming back from the last point. A leave you with is a fact. It's not an opinion this year. The worst year bill has at far is not making the playoffs since two thousand eight. Oh yeah that season at. Tom brady didn't play. And it's the worst earbuds. Check us have since two thousand. Oh yeah that season before. Tom brady got there so bill. Bella check with the patriots. His not accomplished anything without tom. Brady of substance. He hasn't accomplished anything. Tom brady without. Go bella check. Looks to be accomplishing just as much. I know it's too soon to even know silly nice. I mean this is like a sprint. So tom brady's championship game sir. Okay so let's give them a blue ribbon but it ain't the metal that but we don't know he's in the finals but he hasn't wanted and also understand this. This is not the same new england team. I think the thing that i read when we hear about this debate is as if tom brady would've went back to the same patriots team. The patriots weren't the same because of all the app tells it wasn't the same number one defense carried him last year when he was playing with. Patriots it's not the same outstanding. Why receiver that. He had julian element. Who didn't really play this year. It's not the same so what we're trying to do is making -ment based on twenty nineteen. That is just not the same. So i don't understand why we're trying to compare what tom. Brady's doing to tamper with what bill belichick is trying to do. When he admitted this was a repeal. He was trying to clean up all the message to sell out when they had tom brady. And they won those super bowls. And so this is one that it's too soon to tell and we don't even know if this is a one and done deal because we saw how father time catches up with everybody. Encoder redo brees. Tom brady's net. How long are they going to play this out in into. Here's my thing. Bucky brooks first off. How convenient is to say that. Oh yeah this is a rebuild after your team is terrible. That's just favorite cutting it very if you paid attention. I'm just say everybody opted out. And whoever opt sorry your record dictates they rebuilt your record dictate reload. Yes at the patriots would have gone. Thirteen and three year would did have been a rebuild. No wow they did this rebuild it. No because you've never heard that brady had the same amount of success but patriots team. No was bad offensively. So i'm not going to qualify it as a rebuild. Just 'cause boo ballot check told us has to rebuild because sorry. That's what made it to rebuild. Tom brady still been there. It wouldn't have been rebuild because they wouldn't have been sorry. Tom brady knows not how to be sorry. Tom brady knows how to be successful. It is apparent that his teams know how to be sorry. That's all i'm saying bucky yes. That's the new patriots team but every super bowl team. The patriots had tom brady. Where new teams to dynasties separated by eight or nine years rather of not winning a super bowl different teams. This buccaneers team s a different team. That only same factor. Is tom brady so as soon to judge. How many jazz on. The patients with started in his tampa bay buccaneers. Thank you he is. You don't want to go their body. Nobody who would have started on his patriots team. What have to page. Okay you said offense okay. You said off off but even defense. Who was the star player. That i'm missing off the pages. Maybe devin mccourty who has feel more. We're not gonna talk about the bongo more problems. Neurologist i look i keep it okay so we're talking about to go. I'm which locals who does that's it that's all we got. Yeah talk miracles with team justice. Sorry this year the first of all to take hot about this this logical fallacy. There's nothing first of all when you leave a team. You're not the only one that leaves. Guess what a team doesn't go by itself like you take pieces out. You took tom brady. And they want to say patriots. Other people opted out other people retired other people weren't there and then you look bill belichick. Did you say bill was oldest coach. Because he's not want to be older than him. And and i play with marv levy. Who was seventy two. And marv levy said he could have kept going to guess what and we felt the same way he was just tired. Boss donna enjoy life. Point is. I don't know how long bill bill take wants to coach but if you wanna say. Wilder odds can coach out coach player in terms of length in terms of duration. Absolutely you can coach longer than you could play. We know that. Are you going to go back to george. Blanda and say oh. Tom brady could play that long. I don't know how long tom brady gonna play. But i do know this to say that a divorce is one because of the first date you saw mon after the divorce is nick but go you could say but bill check and get the last laugh just like hoping they don't shack fell his the issue at hand. You can't say marcellus. That coach can out coach the length of a player. Not when the coaches sixty nine years old and the players forty-three and they both old and we sit and watch as you can't have the premise is. Can you coach longer than you could. Play has ever been a fifth year. Old player has ever been eight hundred. Eighty he's only sixty that game seventy six. Nothing half is coming out of tom. Brady top forty three plus seven sixty nine plus seven to get to fit eighty nine seventy six thank you. So why are you going. Eighty because the same thing is to get the seventy six even no matter. How the summer has there ever been a coach. That has gone past seventy. Yes i play for one and guess what. We don't know how long tom brady is going to go. But just this just go keep it even does a player play longer than a coach coaches. No i don't want to win argument. I'm just saying he's going to have more runway even if he gets mad if he sees this. Take salmon coast to pass this fool. Respect there is a difference between t and quality check. Can coach in a wheelchair was with iraq. Or for all. We're talking about but that won't help the argument of did he win. The divorce did bill belichick when super bowls. But the thing. I can't let tom brady when tom brady left. Blessed the patriots. You're saying it's a different team. It's a different teams but ballot check had his worst season this year without tom brady since his worst season in two thousand without tom brady since his last season. Not making the playoffs and eight without tom brady. That's all it to be said. Check tom price. Point point you so you can't hide up over cotton candy art com. Nobody eat real meal real not that because he went to a tampa bay score. That was absolutely loaded. Has everybody that you absolutely can have on office it. We're playing video game. If this was mad any anybody can pick up the sticks out who who to ten back from last year rob gronkowski. Who ain't done. Jack squat this year kevin jack own. Like what are we talking like. Rob gronkowski was more lethal than oj. Howard was last year. Let's not get your analyst. Now let's not get a and oj. How are we going to go. Jacket is we. Does he bleeding city block blocking solace to get it gold jacket but i don't know how good he would be right now. What are we talking about. Rob cows day howard ronald argument o. Oj how was coming back. So that's me home. You say you said let's look at tampa bay's roster this year and tampa year. Look look you have right now. Look at what they have. The roster's absolutely loaded. That's why we're bullish on them. Who bullish on them. Got the roster loaded bucky brooks today did ab come play with james. Now you're saying. They said himself he sort of with gifts. He showed her. Aba rob gronkowski. Lay all i know is. I'm gonna get caught up in youtube clip without show arguing but oj howard last year here one downcast seven in your regression but he liked the same dues what oj. Cat last game. Oh guess what. All his top four receivers had combined. What seventy yards one touchdown his top receivers not at of do play well last week. And that's their whole entire career resume. Oh gotta take us to break. This is absurd. I'm sorry you had to suffer through this as well coming up. The bills have won a straight. Now they face the defending champs. We'll tell you who has the early edge in the afc championship. Speak for yourself. Now you'd analysts chummy about our versus. Nfl playoffs continue sunday with the ship said about turbo tax. Live and tom brady. In a bucket news on aaron rodgers and the packers pre game coverage starts at one pm eastern on fox and fox force. Best move to. Afc where the bills bills will face off against. Choose on the road at sunday's afc championship game buffalo loss. Casey back in october but they have red hot sense. Winning eleven of their last twelve cheese will be monitoring. Patrick mahomes very closely adam. Schefter reports mahomes clear some big steps yesterday but it's still in concussion protocol as hope and optimism. You can play on sunday. Bucky is back with us who has early age. Afc championship game. I'm gonna say cheese. The cheese have the ads because there are two games the game on the field and the game within the mind. Then you have to go with the team that has already conquered things within their mind as of late and as of ever think about the chiefs not only hit. They win the super bowl last year. They wanted a conference championship the year before. This is a team with the season quarterback season head coach season wide receivers just about season everything you need as it pertains to having success so who has the mental edge. It's the cheese. Also these teams met had to head. The bills only lost three times all season really. They lost twice. If you want to discount that texans hell murray so who beat the bills. It was the chiefs so you have a mental edge. Because you've seen this team you beat this team before you have a mental edge because you've been in this position before and you've gone beyond this position before i think the chiefs absolutely have the early edge afc championship. No you know. I'm ryan with that mafia over here because look the head to head stuff. You know in the postseason. Everyone's record is the same old new orleans saints about head to head matchups. Not only did they beat them once. They beat them twice and found out the hard way. Don't walk in with ammunition. Dead is called arrogance so no looking at the. Nfl's number two scoring offense from the regular season. Thirty one points. A game has got track yet in the postseason. Only twenty two points again yet. They haven't lost in this postseason yet. Obviously but if you look at them defensively number one defense that is still playing in the playoffs so they can finally get on track offensively like they have for the entire part of the year and then defenses. Continue to do what they wanna do. And patrick mahomes. Even if he is out there is he. Patrick mahomes or is he just a guy with a jersey on us as mahomes on the back. It's going to be interesting as this week progresses to update from kansas city. But i know one thing in buffalo. Those boys are filling themselves man marcel. A lot of ifs and give me if some bus. We're getting that seventy happen. Here's what i do know what you're hoping your banking on hope. The chiefs are doing on. No they know they can knock off the bills because they've done it and they did it in their place and when you think about a team that has been the three straight conference title games. One super bowl talked about building a dynasty and they haven't lost much. This is a team that knows that they're the best team in the afc and when you go back and you look at the games. When they played the bills early in the season they ran the ball. For almost two hundred and seventy five yards but it was her lar- like had his way with the buffalo bills. They moved up and down the field and then from these pensive standpoint. They forced josh allen into one of the worst days of the season. So if i'm the kansas city chiefs i come in full of confidence knowing that the buffalo bills team that ran all over. Everybody league is coming off a performance. Where the only put up ten points josh. Allen doesn't have a running back behind him. This is josh allen show. i just don't know if that's going to be enough to be the juggernaut. That is the kansas city chiefs. Here's the other issue is it. The bills can't stick with the program that got them there The bills last game against the ravens. They didn't even attempt to running play with running back until the second quarter three minutes. Seven seconds left in the second quarter only to designed will only one design running whole first. Half two runs in total. Josh allen kept the ball for scramble early in the second quarter as well. So if you were the bills you gotta understand. You're not going to beat the chiefs by shootout so you better get to running the ball. Which is the opposite of what you did. Just last week against the ravens. Also if you're the bills yes. You beat the ravens. But how did you do it. You didn't beat the ravens because the often have some sort of explosive fireworks show. You beat the ravens. Because you had one hundred one yard interception for a touchdown the other way. If that's the blueprint work to beat the chiefs. You'd better think again. I understand patrick mahomes concussion protocol etc. But i'm going to trust a quarterback who's one twenty four out of his last twenty five games before. I trust a bills team who won last week but they won with a completely different style of play. Then it'll take to beat the chiefs man. Y'all y'all gonna reaching joe. We're reaching not just here. A clyde edwards helaire alert. You better bring up. The buffalo game cassettes that buffalo game buggy. You're you're slipping bucky. What has he done. I'm looking at his numbers Bryan even got over seventy nine yards sixty twenty one fourteen thirty two. What the hell you talking about like. He won't show up his show. I don't know about that. But this being real. They played the cleveland browns. When when patrick mahomes was concussed they were only up nine on baker. Mayfield and cleveland browns. Now no that's a good team but baker. Mayfield josh allen so you only up nine on this game. You only win by five. He was against the backup. I get all that but it was a nine point game. And that ain't josh allen than the buffalo bills that's defied digs out there. Who had a hundred plus yards and each of his outings in the postseason. So look you look at this chiefs offense and then put twenty two. That ain't gonna get it against the buffalo pills brother and we know who's been hotter quarterback since week. Thirteen not even a conversation points per game thirty five for josh allen. Completion percentage sixty nine and a half hired him mahomes total touchdowns turnover ratio. hired him. Mahomes better to answer rating. I know chiesa been here done net and are ready for this moment but if last week was any indication of patrick mahomes is compromise but a watch out for the mafia. Okay so what i heard you say. Is josh. the better quarterback pat mahomes. No this is big enough to hotter. He's higher and he's several. Here's what i was saying about that. It was a law what the buffalo bills didn't the first game. They tried to play bend but don't break. They said they put the safeties in the parking lot. And they basically they're run the ball and what they did. They ran it. They rented they run almost ran for three hundred years. So if they want to take that strategy where they're playing keepaway and want to run it. They can't do it because josh allen. Can't be the quarterback and the primary running back and pam homes the showing the discipline to a Just keep taking these nickel and dime. Keep telling him up and putting money in the bank and so. I don't know if the buffalo bills one. i don't believe the buffalo bills can stop. You can't see the chiefs offense over sixty minutes and attaching mahomes place. I believe it's an absolute done deal. And they're pays me being a porter bills mob. But i just seen this office. Tell your points. I don't believe the buffalo bills can win shoot out. I don't wanna say pin. They can't see chiefs and we'll go ahead and write the pencil in the superman you notice. Chiefs offense has been struggling. Now they're leaders can cuss. We'll see how he comes back to chiefs. Having won a game by double digits says they beat the jets november. I when i was still forty five years old bra ov watch out. Things have changed. Cli- there were sillier. But we stop coming up. Jared goff is on a rocky road in la. We'll tell you if the rams who consider moving on from their franchise quarterback that's next big. Welcome back to speak for yourself. Jared goff was not impressive in the rams season ending loss to the packers loan nursing injury. But head coach sean. Mcvay was asked about the future status of quarterback after the game and said he's quote our quarterback right now network reports the relationship between golfing. Mcveigh's great may need marriage. Counseling has three years left on his massive one hundred thirty four million dollar contract. Eeo marcellus should the rams consider moving on from jericho consider. Yeah because we know they're having this conversation. How do we know they're having a conversation by their accents. When wolfer started week seventeen. Jared goff was upset like the shawn watson style. He was in his feelings of how he was of playing but child. We're going choose the backup. Let me tell you why. They chose the backup because of stairs whenever they make a move like that is already because of discussion. Because we got some issues with jared goff talented wolf which we could see a dual threat quarterback and kind of good out there but also they wanna start to deflate chew jared goff in your your your contract extension of thirty three point five million dollars a season because it's time to start to consider moving on from you now. Now there's a lot of ammunition support. Jerry golfing why he should still be the franchise quarterback top ten total office and three of the last four years. You gotta talk about. He went to the super bowl but at the same time. They're looking at this situation and it's so funny. It's so similar to the shawn watson. they don't want to say what their chests so they're trying to send that hit that trying to send that message. And then jared goff reacted this way. Ask you this in life. Have you ever told a convenient lie to really escape the hard truth now we all have. We've all kind of like let me dance around. This and there are no coincidences in fail. When i was playing my powers are never left the game. When they start rotating me is because they rely yo you kinda little suspect in terms of performance right now. Same way to fill in about jared goff in his performances. So yeah this was intentional. We'll see plays out. I like that. Take they definitely shoots. Consider moving on from jared goff. It's very simple sean. Bay is looking at. Jared golf like wait a second. You need me. I don't need you. Boom before. Jared goff found up within connected with sean mcvay gary. Golf was owen. Seven under jeff fisher under jim fossil. I'd get that these guys are not necessarily quarterback gurus owen seven nonetheless. Then jared goff sean. Mcvay experiences the honeymoon phase the last two years including a super bowl. They go twenty four seven over that i stress. But then you've got to look at the next two years because the next two years early in the eighteen and three the next two years year gos- passing touchdown interception ratio declining. Forty two twenty nine yards per attempt passer rating. Everything has gone down. I think sean. Mcvay looking jared goff is looking at the honeymoon phase and realize wait a second. The honeymoon phase ended wait a second. Jared goff maybe your talent level is ended. Sean mcvay won a must win game against the arizona cardinals with wolford. Sean mcvay who's going to beat seattle with wolford. Because he paid them with golf. Completing nine passes marcella. I only lap like i. Now become a more humble. Individual says way this is ours in two holidays broke. And i'm not a huge big sean guy. But i like big shot show. I think big sean said one time he said leaving me. It'll boost your reputation. I told that to a young lady. Once i choose to came out your mouth listened to the song. No no dow's like leaving me to boost your reputation that hidden you have to realize man plan was shot. Mcveigh his boosted year goss reputation. Because jared goff would sean mcvay. He ain't really all that. But jared goff. Was sean mcvay super bowl attendant. Hundred thirty million tragedy franchise quarterback. Yeah yeah got gotta realize without. Sean mcveigh same. Catch him here. We go again. You create in a ghetto version of brady and belichick out me. Oh man. I don't know i get food stamp version of it mcvay user. Here's the thing. I think you're right shoulder vase like we toll with this dude. I know he's a number one overall pick. I get it but as with ninety plus pass reagan which is good and a seven games would a sub ninety passer rating this year. That's not good. So he's four from passing yards since twenty seventeen he's also four interceptions thrown like which way is up. It's time for. Jared goff to stick his head out and show who he is but this offseason he's going to flex in conversation before even gets the chance and performance. Coming up opposed about tom. Brady's first trip to the nfc championship game got dak prescott attention. We'll tell you if we like desk response. That's next speak for yourself. Tom brady head to his fourteen championship game this weekend. But it's his first. Nfc as a check out this post on instagram that pointed out since nineteen ninety. Seven grady has more. Nfc championship game appearances than the cowboys. Well that did not sit well with rehab and dak prescott who responded to ezekiel elliott to quote. Hold back precious. Uh to you like debt. Klavan back here. So i'm reminded of a phrase growing up. I laugh so i don't cry. I got was like you know what. Let me go ahead and make a joke about this situation because this situation is actually a tear invoking situation i mean you're only talking about the detroit lions and the washington football team that have had long. Nfc championship droughts the cowboys. I think good about twenty five years of an nfc brown. That's the tier invoking statistic if you are cowboys dot prescott. I think that prescott also wants to beat the narrative because that prescott about to make sixty eight million dollars in the event he gets tagged again. It's gonna make sixty eight million dollars over years. Patrick mahomes have made sixty three million dollars over three years now. People aren't counting that press gas money yet. People laying perusing do that press goss wallet. Just get but that after you make that sixty three. They start looking like wait a second. We pay you all this money. And they go say what marcellus is saying about the sean when a wins that where they advertise that press got beating the narrative letting everybody know like this injury. Hold me back. I'm actually out here trying to win these game. He needs to create the narrative before we to media created for. That's a good take. that's a different take. I think like that. I didn't look at this issue. I like it because it's malice free. No shade just respect to tom. Brady to go. And it's impossible to actually do like dak prescott sitting back at the whole crutches and there were you ain't gonna do you take it day somebody to hold you up. You ain't going anywhere. So i took it as harmless but more than that it was. It was actually mature. It was actually grown. Think about it. That prescott led the number one scoring offense this year while healthy dak prescott went. He has never had a season. Dak prescott throws for yards and yards in yards. Most quarterback wins passing yards passing touchdowns in cowboys history. He knows he has accolades. He knows he has a resume but damn compared to that guy. I have nothing. So i think it was almost like. Oh i'll come at fordham guy like a net kind of cup competitive spirit way when we know. We can't do jack right now and we know that his team didn't do jack this year but one i am not zoo. Hold me back. Because i'm coming for tom. Brady glad you said that. And i respect deck. I've been hypercritical. But i respect deck but i also think is kind of like that dude. Who's homey back. Hold me back but then you let them go do none. Well they'll say have to just said you. Hypercritical pilots is it then i have to be. He's the cold. My crutches is if when that was with the cowboys they were good like remember when the cowboys were still bad so z. Coal my crutches. Assuming a when i'm healthy to be here making noise still gone to. Nfc championship game. No losing seasons z. Coding crutches out to do debt. Ziegler do fumbled crutches. cj over his first for nfl seasons. He's only second one guy. Tom brady so he's basically like superman spider man. Whatever the hell it is. I'm looking like you. But i am so far away from you now when i get my opportunity when healthy again or i'm close this gap. We'll see coming up go. Jimmy joins us with his own thoughts on the new look nets. that's net. speak for yourself. Drop we go. We ass early if the nets have put the nba all notice. Jimmy has his own point of view on what's going on in brooklyn. What's up about. Check this out. Haiti and the brooklyn put the tie eastern conference on notice right after the game. Kevin durant walk straight up to autumn's godless optima pukhov cope looking me. He said look at me. I'm the captain. Now check i am to what you may call it. H in oh. Wow okay mta head net in intouch last night kevin durant black and assassin on a mission. And they don't care about the fact that the macaroni looking like a nestle crunch bars. You know somebody. Better tell the lakers soon. And they better tale of ron specifically to watch they back. Lebron won't be happy till the end up. Just like stringer bail from the y. See lebron don't realize caney wail where speed is boy crazy as hey boys on show at the staple center wearing a black trenchcoat commit dry lips. Wissam jimmy okay. One of stocks. Trump's here we go. How with you all for us tomorrow.

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Hoping we got clippers vs lakers and somebody is going to spill spoil somebody else's ring party that night. careful. I don't i don't care if i'm getting married i don't care what somebody does. Uk ruin that day argue. Because you don't do it. I hate him family until now me and her we together a helluva you can take the l on opening seelig. Oh my goodness i thing. I said to shannon as we're walking to the said it's a good day to be alive and he's going to be feeling it all day because the king is staying in. La the lakers sign lebron james to a two year eighty five million dollars extension. Which means ron won't be free agent again until twenty twenty three and in addition just this morning the lakers are finalizing a five year. One hundred ninety million dollar deals. Keep anthony davis the laker uniform as well. So shannon was the lebron extension. a smart. Move for the lakers. Absolutely inskip the one thing that i think around the league ins and and is without a doubt without question is that the lakers take care of the great players. And this is why you have a lot of the all time greats. Coming to play for the lakers will that started with another team in came here cream shack. Now lebron and in between head. Bob maccabi had michael thompson somebody. A historically great players have chosen to play for the lakers although they wouldn't drafted by the lakers. Because this these are the things that they do and this is the same thing that they did. We call you. Remember his last two years i think he signed a two year extension for forty eight million dollars. It'd be like oh my god. Why would you do that They've done for us This is the least we can do. But when you look at lebron and what. He's been able to do in how he's been able to to stave off father time and how he's been able to avoid the injury bug with acceptable of two year and a half ago. That groin injury. He'd been relatively healthy. He hasn't had the the joint and muscle injuries. That a lot of people have a lot of players of suffer even later in their career. So for me. This was a no brainer. Lebron said that when he came to the lakers this was the last. The full cucamonga in other words give. this is. Let the train stopping in. Laker land cucamonga among you. I'm not sure lebron is handed there either you know. Look at the at the end of this contract. Lebron thirty nine years of age. And i think at that point time. You'll probably be the all timeline score in nba history. And then he'll whip weigh his options. Okay what do i do. Not were too. I wanna go. Do i want to continue the player. How am i playing. 'cause i think is hard skill when you've been a great great player like lebron for such a long long time. Can you see yourself averaging ten fifteen points a game. I don't see that for him and that's willing to think they're like man. I can't go. hey. I'm doug averaging seventeen one night. Yeah can have the occasional thirty point the occasional game were. Y'all remember man that's colby but so for me. I think it's a no brainer that they went hand. Did this because the third year fourth year with an option you tear the option of you go hand guarantee so eighty five minutes small little constellations. What lebron small. What is actually worth the question. If you pay a man forty million dollars what does he actually work. Because you're not to eight. You're not losing any money. Nothing i know about the business new. Try to lose no money so if you give them an forty million that means you turn it a prophet somehow someway now when this when you start getting back in the The vaccines about the come out to be able to put people back. Any buildings staples sold out again all the time so for the next three years. Guess what Yeah there's a guy in brooklyn who might have what about say about what about what we we got to. Okay my turn. I was shocked by this announcement. Did they did he did. He did lebron he did. Okay all of a sudden. It's the beginning of the end to me. All of a sudden i see lebron's exit strategy and truly from my heart. It made me a little sad because it looked like you can see the end of the tunnel you can see that he opted for security here now has three years of high paid security and it felt like the beginning of the end that as he approaches forty. He's going to be done with this and he wants to end it. Here's a laker. Don't have any issue with that for sure. But even brian windhorst who's covered his career for years on. Espn said this morning. The overnight sportscenter that he was very surprised because lebron opted for security. Remember after this coming year he could have gone free agents. Go where. I don't know i mean you go to the highest bidder. You could join forces with somebody else. Are you happy they're going to the hospital. Doesn't make any sense if i'm happy. Here's okay or you can squeeze the lakers just a little bit harder. If you wanna do that and again he got great money. He got huge money so little harder. Just a little harder. If he'd wanted to. Well what but then you have to play the field and it just looked like i'm good. This is where i want to go. And he is on pace under knock on wood for him given health as you point out to become the all time leading score in that final year of this deal is probably going to take that the again. It is definitely getting it because health is going to become an increasing issue for him as approaches four and plus the fact skill. You know you you miss what fifteen twenty games this year they get now. You cut down on the game so you run out of gave their okay. I got it so it was shocking to me to sit back and think what would the nba world. Be without lebron james. I always tell you. He's the most interesting man in the world. How many words have we spoken an excuse. Me about lebron james on the show since we started in two thousand sixteen nine. Yeah because it's always something with lebron even win lose or draw. Sometimes the outcome of his games don't matter because there's always a subplot orlando. There's always a sideshow going on in lebron's live somewhere. It's either soap opera. Or it's just legitimate big news that that seems to swirl around him that's not always doing he's just one of those guys who was born hot. There's always he has a force field around him that creates a dynamic of stories and man if he does go away if he's segues into a second career and he's got all kinds of options in a second career. It's going to be hard for the nba to live back up to the legacy that he will leave just in story lines in more key value because man talk about opening night clippers. What what do i want to watch. I wanna watch lebron versus the clippers. I wanna watch lebron versus lucas. It's the showcase game graffman. What time it would be like eight. Pm eastern is right around there on christmas evening okay. He is the biggest draw in the league. Right and to me. Even our commissioner silver had to sit back yesterday. Think she could that be the beginning of the end is he now mapped out. Do we now see the light at the end of his tunnel into his second career. Our big thing is is that when you look at like okay obviously when you get to this stage you take it one year at a time but lebron okay. If they're willing to do this and give me the security sure. I can probably hit the mark. Opt out after this season. Even if i didn't win the championship improbably go. Somebody's guilt because what he generates. As you mentioned the buzz around him the building's going to be packed so he's gonna pay that off no matter what you pay him. He's gonna pay that off attendance alone let alone all the jurors and all the ad sales that come along with lebron on your team but i think for me. Lebron james had made it abundantly clear when he signed here to say that i wanted to be a laker. Got everything else out of my way by the heat thing go onto title. We're back to. Cleveland are brought a championship to my hometown. So now this is about lebron. James in my ultimate happiness l. k. savannah. Uku going to the west coast. No way we've never lived on the west coast and we're going to be far away from your mom and dad and tell me you cool with it a baby go be happy where he said this is so but what i know the betas as always told meet about he's apprised and lebron goes to the highest bidder but when the bron- to play it that he was never going to play for less than mets money. You criticized in say. Tom brady always takes lists so you can put players around him now you saying he should have held out it better. No i mean that's just been his strategy that would be. if you're going on. I speak tom brady. Would i be surprised if lebron wanted to play till he's forty three forty four. I would not at all and again given his ironman stature given his health this past year given that he looked revitalised. Reenergized almost got young. You're looking and playing this past year. Why wouldn't be thinking about forty five you first of all by the time. Lebron is about turn thirty six but a just before they three. That's seven more years. That's twenty five years. That's a long. I remind pair okay. Tom brady is still going strong. It forty three thing. Tom brady does not play what i would say. A skill position running back wide receiver tiny. So what you do get here yet. Did get hit by the kansas city chiefs about fifteen times. The if you look at it guys like robert payers played in twenty one twenty two year. Twenty is is different. Tell me how freakish this man would. You be shocked. I wouldn't be shot. I would be. I would be beyond shot if lebron i'll be shot if we play playoff twenty one years. Okay so i appreciate you. Opening my pet peeve door. Because i do have an issue with this and i've never understood it and what would have really pleased me. Yesterday is if they had announced an extension in which lebron received for his final two years in la twenty million and twenty minutes crazy. it a forty. What is it up to forty four forty one and forty four right so there is this thing called a salary. It's a little softer in basketball. But there is an end to it. You can't go past x. right so why if you have constantly your career complain about. I don't have enough help. We're top heavy is back in his fun. Stay in cleveland. Then why wouldn't you do. What several of the greats of done in their career which is to beat the cap to beat the system. I'm make enough money off the field. I've made enough in my career. I'll take half of what i'm worth. Look i agree with your premise. If there were no cap in this sport if this were baseball he's worth on hundred million dollars in box office cachet. I mean he's a lightning rod draw. Some people don't like some people love him. Everybody watches him so he's worth the money. But there's a cap. The players have accepted the cap for years. I have a problem with it. With what lebron ad max money that's because he demands skim. He's in the catbird seat. He could say you know okay well. Can you maximize your help. When you're taking forty one and forty four million in those final lakers. No we're not going to do the deal so now you have to max play skill. So how many the say. I don't care about the number. I don't care about anybody. I care about this team and this is your backs it out. What is the most important thing remaining on his docket on his agenda. He's there to win championships. Yes you you need to get to six right okay because then you could make a case. I'm six and six and he was six measure question. How do you know that he can't get the tax money. Well maybe you can. But i gotta tell you i'd like your chances a whole lot more maximize the rest of the team. The way my man. Tim duncan always. Look at what. Tim duncan did his final one two three four years. Look at this as their winning championships. They want to those last four years. But ray and cost him on that fateful night game six miami. But here's. Tim duncan the greatest power forward ever a man who deserved max money beyond just about anybody else. Bring that era who was playing and this is twenty twelve two thousand thirteen. He makes six million nine point six then. He goes all the way to ten point. Three ten point three finishes his final year at six point million. Six point zero million. What lebron's forty one and forty or in his last years and dunkin totaled in his last his last two years. Let's just take those. He totalled sixteen point. Three million lebron. Total eighty-five million. And he did it. He just publicly admitted. I didn't right so that we could stock are bench you. I had all the help that we could squeeze under cap and remember what they did to lebron's heat in two thousand fourteen. They shot him out of the gym. They beat him in five games by a record finals margin because they rain threes because they got a much better. Lebron was not making much money and they still lost the championship. Even though a lot though sleet no no no. No no no no no. A lot is not matched money. So he says i can not only winner take ten million or six million get hold of. All i'm saying is lebron was a free agent. He took less money. So he chris bosh and d- way all play together and in the process of them taking less money. Lebron spilled lost. So there is no guarantee if i take maximum or i take less than max that i'm going to win so with that being the case i'm going to take max's money. I don't tell anybody would. This is what you should do because there are a lot of people that we never ask these old take less money. We don't play championships. They don't there's not an actual championship to win. What's your priority is to make money or win. Titles say both fifty fifty exactly. Okay if you plan. Professional for two. Things should be abundantly clear. You play for money. You play for memories. And i'm trying to get as many as i can of both Well that's fifty. Fifty one is going to undercut the requested. Michael jordan took thirty million each with two years. Why did you ask him to take a pay cut. Why did he take less money. You know what. Michael his whole career a ninety three million dollars just to keep this in perspective. Ninety three million toll for his entire career. Lebron is on pace now to make four hundred and thirty three million. What you know inflation. Things have changed now usually goodbye cadillac for three thousand. Can you buy cadillac now for three grand. No you can't thank changed. Michael jordan won his first three championships making a grand total over those three years of nine point eight. he's making three something million. I know longtime ago but still he finally got paid reasonable money because he's worth one hundred million in nine hundred ninety eight. That's what kind of draw he was. He made thirty and thirty three in his last two and he was still underpaid about their guys. Now mr be. Bob purchased the broncos for sixty eight million. He paid john elway sixty five million over his sixteen years career. There are getting sixty seventy eighty million dollars signing bonus. Skip things are different now. The money is different now inflation so we can't say okay. That guy made this much. He can only make that. Just imagine what a guy like a guy like got like elway. What would they make now. They were playing now. That was delivered. Talk now in your sport. The national football. Let's talk about the greatest player. Who's ever played in your lead. Greatest quarterback ever tom brady. Let's look at what he's done. He's made chicken feed his whole career. And then let's just go lately as he won his championships. Let's let's start in twenty fourteen when they came back on the legion of boom in the fourth. Quarter to win that game. You could argue how it ended. But tom brady was extraordinarily in the fourth quarter. He made nineteen million dollars that year. That's that's hold on one thousand nine hundred ninety. Two thousand fourteen was not chickenfeed. Well it was compared to what a lot of others were making so then it goes to the next year he took thirteen million and then as they pulled off the comeback for the ages. Against the atlanta falcons twenty th sixteen season. He made fourteen point seven million dollars. That probably putting middle of the pack in quarterback money then the next year twenty seventeen when he sits the all-time playoff record five hundred and five yards passing and super bowl. He made fifteen then fifteen again in two thousand eighteen when they beat the rams and the super bowl this is this is average money at best and then thousand. Nine hundred ninety. He escalated all the way to twenty three and this year he took twenty five million to go to tampa. This is the greatest one ever. So that's the only way to do it so whatever tom brady. That's the only way to do it. No one else can do it for one of our way mahomes hold. Why did he do it. It was to maximize his supporting cast. He always made that clear. I want to maximize my ability to win rate. You said you didn't know what bill villagers. They didn't have any cap money. So you didn't know what. Bill bill to take spending it so well. Tom can't spend the money he can only make it available so he made it available to bell check to me. I lost the biggest mystery to me. Maybe in your sport is we did all the cap money. Go because tom gay d montana cap. Money will look the way. I look at it like this. Lebron james says this is what i'm worth. Somebody pay me. What i'm worth and i'm gonna do skill taken how he give you have effort. He gives you have plate. Paid me from what i'm worth. What the lakers deemed his value to be over the last. Two years is eighty-five million. If i'm taking twenty and twenty whittard of helped his chances to win more championships no no no. So if they had an extra twenty five million to play with under the cap you couldn't add an eighth man or a ninth man who would be much better than the eighth or ninth that you're gonna wind up with. I can assure you. Rob pelinka have looked all around. And he tried to add. And i'm sure he's read about. Ad way too long. That's why a deep problem to wait as long as did and lebron was waiting. Okay what can we add. Can we add a piece. Could we add there well. It doesn't look like we're gonna be able to add a piece so home we're going to move forward what we have. It also would have been such great pr to say you know what. I'm just taking less money so we could win. Titles notes slim. your question. I take less money. Is there any guarantee that we're gonna win the title if i take less money. There's a guarantee you're going to have a better chance on nine skill. Lebron was max money last year. Ad with max money. Last year they won the title. Holo paul george was max money learners money they didn't. There are no guarantees sport. That's why we love so much because they are not. We gotta stop this notion. You need to really start this notion skill. Tom brady is not the only way to do things. Well because tom did it like this everybody. Tom can do whatever he likes. But just because just the goat. So that's one one way to do it. Well hey floyd mayweather did it. his way. A lot of other people have promoters to applaud with no cap no cap but he can do it his way solo sport exactly so i skip at the end of the day. Lebron inc lebron entity in an fisher at job is to make as much money possibly can have as many members of possibly can so right now. I got a lot of good memories. And i made a ton of money. Can you do that. So but because tom brady. Tom brady does what he lebron. James delivered live on what tom did. Okay don't come to me with. We don't have enough hell. Don't come to me talk about no asterik. We went another title. Because you got it. Yeah got that you need another. Maybe they'll they'll have to go bubble again. Guess what guess what. Twenty years from now. Nobody remember remember the rings and things do you get forget. Not in a strike shortened year. Yeah do you remember. that's what. Tim duncan they won the title the athlete by two thousand twelve. The heat win the title after by. I think not Tim duncan should been five zero and finals. Yeah i don't know what it should have been. I know what he is who he is. Yes get let us normally when people on a on a joy occasion. Congratulations congratulations. thank you oh man. That was a good. That's not what you're doing here. Congratulations on your great luck. Y'all got issue. We were talking about the issue. That's all guy going to the base but we heard it all the news. We heard it all we. 'cause we live in a duplex do you everything your day coming. The all day comment happen sooner than later. Well opening night is your nine skill. Who's here. I'll give you a congratulated. You're happy about this excited this. You can't go right now to these games inside how me for one day go to quarantine for fourteen days so i get a job with tend to be honest. Could pull it off. Hey undisputed listeners. It's charlotte wilder here to tell you about my new podcast. With marc titus called the people sports podcast it comes out every thursday and mark and i take one of the big stories of the week and then we go off on tangents. You never saw coming. This might mean that we start talking about the dodgers winning the world series and ended up wondering if knicks fans deserve happiness or begin with lebron's greatness and end up drafting ultimate beer league softball team made up of old athletes whatever. It is the only rule of the shows that it has to be fun and funny because these days we could all use as many laps as we can get so. Check it out wherever you get your podcasts. And come down weird sports rabbit holes with us. We can't wait to. Have you know artsy well. Russell westbrook is out in houston. The rockets traded and bp to the wizards and they will get former all star. John wall and a future first round pick in the deal wall. Last played in two thousand eighteen has been rehabbing from a knee. Kelly's injury since so shannon. Who won the trade. We'll before i am sorry washington 'cause i spoke into existence. I remember when russell westbrook. I requested a train and i'm looking at i'm scott. I'm like the only trade it really makes. This is for john wall because they said that. I said that. I really thought it's been rumored out there for weeks. Oh the whole world. I saw cable internet. Do your pain now you good. It is here because if you look at this get up. Their bear similar players. Shoot about the same from the field. Shoot about the same. From the three point land. The contracts basically identical coming up have injury history in the question of given their history of injuries. How these contracts going to look not only this year but you still got two more years after this year that about what. What is it three years one hundred and thirty one million dollars so they're going to look but for me skill who wanted to trade in the short term. I will say the rockets because they get a first round pick but they lost overall. Because you ship that chris paul the year before and gave up four first round picks to get risks. And you only get one of those back in that protected so in the short term they want if you look okay trade for trade rough for john wall. I'm gonna say the rockets one. Because they did get a first round pick back in return but overall they lost this. Get what they gave up in. That's the risk that you run if you give up so many these assets in. I guess it's hard to call him assets because we don't know what they're gonna do with these picks but when you give up all skip and the guy all of a sudden is not happy but what happened to the friendship happy i. It's just california. We grew up together. I don't know how people thought this was going to work. You got two guys then led the nba that will be the one or two in usage. Which means i got the ball in my hands. They alternate i've number one year number two number one when you number two. You put those two guys together. Skip and people actually vote yup. Look here my brother. I like to thank me and my brothers closed. Arden rose. I damn sure they wanna play with him. Because i know he's gonna be griping football and i'm by catches too so you know what is best used green bay right over here in denver been asked that you don't put these guys together so you don't muck up the friendship. I don't think it must it up. But they realized they couldn't play together. They realized russ eh. You like to say russell were magubane. Give a little. I have other people. But i if i can do this if i can be the ringmaster if i could be trapeze guy if i can get shot out the canon if i could do all of this what do i need all day if if i do it. Yep so for me plus rough. Just go back with. Scotty brooks coached him in these. Three straight triple double seasons. Mvp he knows gotti book. But i don't think if bradley beal happy no hard happy. No beard. More tight okay. Y'all got good to stay. Let me signed any stingy now. Not the case so can we. Anybody work that. Don't they buy fabric with this. Had to do it. Which brings me right on time to my conclusion. Trying to figure out who won this. It made my head hurt. And i slept on it. And i'm still not sure there was a winner in the strayed. They traded problems. That's all they did. John wall is not a problem for the team. As far as being on the team he is beloved in wash. They love him. He has been great in the community. They're unbelievable nair. They're heartbroken to lose him right but he hasn't played for two years. Who is he what is he. What's left and he had the dreaded achilles injury on top of the acl. and i think he did it falling down the stairs at all. And the thing is he the spe- gasoline probably going to be more impacted by achilles. Then kevin durant. We'll beat and i know he's posted. Some videos need looks explosive again. God bless them. Knock on wood for him but who knows what he is now. Who knows if he can live up to those last two years at top money. So what am i supposed to make of an. I don't know because you got to tell me how good he's going to be. Look you got two guys who are capable of. Averaging double digit assists both done big in two and ten. They're both capable of leading the league in assists the way lebron led the league in his sense but they're neither a gifted passer. They have to work at it. They have to sort of concentrate on. Get rid of the ball in the lane like driving it leaving it ripe dunk. I really want latest ball up but they got to be blocked. So you do so. We've done right so i don't love either. One of them as as a show runner as a as a distributor as a pure point. They're not pure points either. One of them right. John wall went when he was at his athletic greatest. He's a highlight. Whoa you can sky and dunk and make some sensational plays russ is much bigger box office to meet john wall. And so. I'm going to give the wizards a better grade. Because they got russell westbrook to sell because they don't have that much to sell right. But as i tweeted last night. Poor bradley beal yes. I don't i love bradley. He's such a good guy and he's such a gifted shooter and now watch. He was looking for a reason to stay and now he's got a solo act basketball and it's hard to play with russ because my mother used to call me bullheaded your your bullhead of you. You just won't listen. You just go go go well. That's rasi just bullheaded. He just sees basket attacks basket and he loses touch with weight. It's a team. Sport roles not for ross. Remember what was his line. Why did he want out of houston. I want to go back to playing game. What's his game. You just said it. Yes it's he'll just hell bent for the basket. It's all about him. And i swear he became in those three years in which he averaged a triple double. He became more concerned with stats. He just did. We'll put him on those. Because they got like auto man kevin durant who this guy won the mvp and your kevin durant left. And then the average a triple double forty forty two triple doubles. And then he followed it up with another mature and then follow that up with another season old. Now i've got a taste and this is how people know me. Skip i and getting a fifty way. Nobody talked about rust. So i don't even know if they can make the playoffs. I'm serious because look at it. I missed last year. I just missed both celtics pixar's raptors. He pacers magic. Made the off the last three. You better here come. The hawks are there better. I don't know if it's going to be closed obligated. Different like okay. I don't see if you make it. What are you eight. maybe maybe remember. They went twenty five and forty seven bradley beal having a career year and they just gave bertans my former spur a bunch of money. I gave him five years. Eighty million he can shoot. It is six nine. But okay with those shooters bradley be in baton russia every fifteen months. This tonight will probably not say that. I think that's what we should do. We'll do it if you look at his last season before he got hurt gasol within seconds and time of possession with the ball in the hand by at hard that got john wall so this notion oh he no he's not he skip that's why they traded him there back about the same from the free thirty. Two percent shoot afraid floor. They play basically the same pave up and down. I agree what advantage does does washington have right out. Will scotty brooks coached russ now on the city. So at least he'd probably signed off on this. Yeah yeah. I'm great with right and everybody's around ross. They like him. You know they they just know when the game goes on. He gets sort of blind and goes into soloist. I'm sure he's a great guy. I think he got to be around. He just a terrible gotta be attainment. I agree okay. Let's it to play. They offer completely co-signed. Look at the rockets now so we have reunited to kentucky teammates wall and demarcus cousins. But i'm still a big demarcus fan. I don't know about his physical condition. You got to former kentucky stars. One first overall draft and i don't know who were. They are physically right now. One mckee lease andrex mayfield. Had and now you bring former teammate. Had very similar same injuries. They i what am i supposed to expect from if you got them at peak performance like it. Yeah right and yet. I gotta give ross one prop you said. It didn't work with james. I thought they were working the best they could. I thought russell sacrifice less you need a good year and more efficient year he would seven eight and seven right not bad and he shared he shares killed. He wasn't happy with that. Not happy with the reason. It wasn't because then they go to the bubble happening. Ross right away he got covert remember and then he gets down there and he pulls his quad and it kept him out for a while and he goes into the playoffs limping yuppie and then they did win game one against your guys right and then i'll go to my grave sand. Danielle house thing in south violated the quarantine right right. Yeah so the point. Was that all the sudden. It just went up in smoke and then everybody was unhappy because they lost at the thing is give were they. Were they really ever happy playing with each other teams. That are happy being around each. And i think the thing is because we're boys didn't know that they would have had not known each other and that you try to put these two guys together with the. Don't even think if you don't know each other you would have never you never even mixed this. You will never find gas because you already know what the buffalo that's all with this situation skip. I think they got. They matched the my maximize as much as they could best. They could but roth wasn't gonna be happy skilled because he's happy is when he's one man ban. Okay i got it. So both teams are happier that they swapped problems. But i don't think either to hold wake me y'all got covington up out of here y'all got arose about. Cpa three traded cappella. You do why how everybody can get me. What's going do for me. And i thought of that. You want to get out really skilled so got two years hundred today before. Non good lead there unless you really believe you. You're going. You're bound for brooklyn a newbie. Could give it up for to give me that to steel trade with you boy without brooklyn want to get all those assets could ask because they won't carioca de along with dinwiddie liberte probably would like to think it could be just din. We laverton anybody else. Want data superstar. We need we need the equivalent. We get one superstar. This james harden. Yeah all right well now guys actually want to move on to the cowboys and ceo. Skip feels about this pro. Football focus. analysts has an interesting suggestion for the cowboys. This offseason they think dallas should consider sending the draft pick and dak prescott to the york jets in return for the number one pick. The cowboys are currently projected to pick four shannon. Could you see this. there's never do. It's killed the days jimmy johnson. The around the cowboys were they pulled has heist on the minnesota. Vikings three first round picks the turned out to be imminent smith. Darren woodson russell maryland. And all those guys. That's never happened to get skilled from the time. That kid trevor lawrence step foot on the university of clemson. Everybody says he's going to be the first pick of drought. They did you. You're not doing that skit. Miami offered the filled pig and three first rounders to move up to get to get joe burrow. They no when you believe you have that guy. You're not moving. You can offer india enough to give up andrew luck. You couldn't offer enough to give up peyton manning skill when you have a bad guy when he talked about trevor lawrence have been talked about. They're not moving because inherently things. Get normally what you try and do you try to identify quarterback and the draft and then you build around him. See if i give me if i get okay. Let's just say for the sake of argument. Adjust where to do. It still got signed that. So now i gotta now i gotta give up what i gotta pay him somewhere between one hundred fifty two hundred million dollars five year d you say five years two hundred million that forty million a year. Skip now you inhibited. What i can put around see. The cowboys can pay that because they've already got the pieces around him. They've already signed a guest. Cd on a rookie contract. They've already signed the mark. They've already got z. Side now they might come back zinc. We need to borrow little something. We need our but for me. I think there'd be probably buried that they go hand stamp. Maybe if you don't let your move back which you're probably going to be in the market for left tackle because you've noticed tyrant smith the injury the starting to cope with greater regularity. And they're starving to keep him out. They used to just miss a game and then it went to three games knitted with the six games and now the season so but there's no way jeff getting pick skeleton they. They're playing bad for a reason. Did they know what they do is they. Try to sam darnold now. I don't know what you're going to get. You're never gonna be able to get what you get. You know you're not gonna get a high first round pick. You probably get a second maybe a third get. What did they get a rosen. That's probably what you get for. Sam darnold but they're not they're not moving this peekskill. They're not getting off this. As much of a long shot at this scenario seems to be there is one way it could happen in. That is once upon time. A guy named elway said no to was baltimore. No i don't wanna play there really. Don't wanna play. I guess we got a ball back. He's like oreo play baseball. Okay go play for the yankees and he thought you know. He didn't really like the owner. And he thought they were gonna move time manning to the san diego chargers. Nope i don't wanna play there. Wanna play new york okay. What if this is the only long shot hypothetical if trevor lawrence told jets. I just don't wanna play for you. It's hard to believe nobody would. Somebody will not plan you know to you. I don't like where you're headed. I don't like who you are. I just don't like the fit. What if my cowboys just lose out. Which is possible. After the debacle. That i suffered on thanksgiving. What if they lose out they go to baltimore. And it's lamar would be. I'm thinking to tuesday's to do the doco. Then at cincinnati i don't know it's coin flip then. San francisco has come back to life or your dallas than the eagles come to dallas. They still have that. Defense played really well. A division is a division game an end up at the giants and it could be for the giants to close the deal and the division. So could they lose those last five games and lose their way. I don't know maybe even to the two seat because they're sitting on the four seed right now am i. I'm to the point where. I was so disappointed in them on thanksgiving. Then i'm ready to to root for them to lose which you can also make the case that if they win out they could win the division. I don't know what to do with that because it's the all time worst. Division in the history of profile with six wins is going to win this division. And you went through your last five okay. There are three weeks in that last five. Uc sure in this year. I could see. I could see four windows coffee. I like. i'm juggling balls here. My emotions are incredibly mix vision or get your prophet restocked the whole defense trading back and getting three first round pig and landing a corner and a safety astros right so look. It's possible the jets would also fall in love with justin feels. Because i think a lot of people are starting to fall in love with you. I don't know so. Could that be a possibility. What if dallas loses to the tuesday. I don't even know what how it would all fall out. It's almost impossible to say with five games left. But it's it's possible at their sitting at three and eight if they finish. What three and thirteen would that get them. The two seat. It might okay jacksonville. 'cause i don't they jacksonville to a obviously there in the market. Exactly and yet. They're four quarterbacks who could go in the top five or six pitt right right so my point is. Here's juries dilemma. You keep saying dax prices going up and you're probably right. As far as dax perspective is going his agents perspective. They're probably thinking we want patrick. Mahomes now you guys are terrible without us. Well i gotta tell you the truth. We were terrible with you. Terrible a year ago with you tonight. Well no. I'm just saying well you won't admit it because you think dad deserves money. Let's just what the market will bear. But that's not what he deserves because he hasn't earned that money. I'm gonna say this one more time in his last seventeen star six and eleven and for those who forgot what happened earlier this year when he got hurt they were one in three and they were the lucky team in the world to have stolen the one game against the atlanta. Onside kick the watermelon kick right so they very easily could have been. Oh and four. And in that giant's game remember. They fell behind seventeen to three with dak prescott healthy so i i don't know how can i defend. I love dak prescott. Think they could win a super bowl dak prescott but not if you have to give him forty five million. Because that's what he wants. Here's the thanks. Go if i sit back and look at it. I really can only think of two quarterbacks the top of my head the jets might be willing to partly this go one. I know absolutely for certain they would. That's patrick mahomes watson. I agree thousand two because all the other guys skip you know. Even if you say like like aaron rodgers guilt. But you're not going to get you get aaron rodgers for another four years. Maybe maybe maybe russ. Can you say well. I'll be willing to do advantages get for six years. I'll be cool with that but dole's to to mahomes watson question. Okay well obviously. I got you. Okay enlist trevor. Lawrence tells the jets. I'm not gonna play for. I'm gonna draft anyway. I guess what. I'm you give them a king's ransom. I might get both first round for a lot of people. Thought joe burrow would not go to cincinnati except he was in ohio. So you got a built in advantage right. Yeah so. I think the thing is i mean look. I understand the kids from heat from be from georgia. Suburb of atlanta and new york is. That's that's that's a big place but big city. I don't feel scenario digest. Done some bad things last five six ten years okay. So let's talk about jerry jones being all about dollars and cents yes. The second word spelled s. e. n. s. e. He's looking at the mathematics here economics and he's saying wait a second. Joe burrow got four years a grand total of thirty six point. Five million all guaranteed but only thirty six point two over four years so we'll trevor lawrence in a pandemic get much more than that. Probably the probably ten percent quite sit. We'll everything's gonna shrink shrink. So in that ballpark. Okay wants forty. Five ish million if going forward So far more than you could get. Trevor lawrence four for four years. So jerry's thinking what if he's roger staubach right that that's why bathwater won't do the deal. Okay for the simple fact that what you said. I got this kid order. Rookie contract and i can add multiple pieces around him. Skip i can go. I can go because they got money in cafes. So i can go into the market like you said it might be a compressed market because the cath going down and i can go get me another wide. Receiver a cornerback. I can get some players to add to make this team prob. You probably get trouble while pieces. So you'll probably you had ritchie anisa liberal erase anderson carolina. No he's good. He's a little shaky off the field but again well he can fly right and so skip. So i'm gonna. I'm gonna get as many pieces of f. I can't travel on so running back frank gore. I mean frank. Framboise gordon you. Fifteen sixteen but so. That's their mass man right. Look one guy is not going to solve and this is it took. You took some time to to make this mess. Started with mark sanchez. And you to some other draft poorly and so trevor lawrence the although heave quarterback and get you out. It's going to take a minute. Those skill is gonna take a minute. Jeff heap of it. I think i'm rooting against my dallas cowboys. Though you are would you go. look jimmy. Swill somebody everybody because everybody always talks about that trade you know can you. Can you believe can you believe. They believe what minnesota gable. Jimmy came to me on the saturday before the monday trade and asked me what if i told you could trade herschel walker for a king's ransom that's what he asked me. I said seriously. Because i wouldn't have big herschel. Fan because he was nearing the end of his run He just led the league rush of guilt about it but he was battered and and he was just about finished. You know the where he was starting to tip her. He was tiptoeing. 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Crave shocked because out into second third. I told you this welcome. Problem is for as much as people love why he quiet. He's a cyborg. he's much more of a problem behind the scenes then what we previously thought. Not me but i've tried to tell you biscuit. Look let me tell you what happened. Skip a lot. I sit here. And i offer my opinion but a lot of time what i try to do that. I try to people give people insight through personal experience. Having spent fourteen years in locker rooms and the thing that i've always that i've done. Is that when you started this seventh round draft pick and you work your way up and you become one of the leader of team you become one of the guys you get an opportunity to see how the guys in the locker room that are really good players how they act and how the players that are left with here how they feel about how the act and i told you this guy is going to be a problem now if you come from the outside in you get treatment differently. I'm like hold on. What what are you doing. What did tom brady. Tom brady when he got the tampa said no matter what i done in england i need to come here. Ingratiate myself here in tampa and prove to them. Okay this is why. I'm tom brady business. How i came to beat guys came up by literature brought a uncle wine. Pg a bow down and trey and hold on wait a minute. We wait a minute. Michael gray like well bro slowdown. Y'all practicing. y'all play when you won't do you gotta lake hawaii you living in san diego. We're not on your time. Your time is not more important than mine and it rubbed people wrong. Wait the only problem was that you have to understand. Trans couldn't control. Oddly if trans could have controlled it and not been because the skill marcus. Mars is basically the same type of disposition if trees but he partly keep cool. Y'all do y'all pay now. He asserted itself several times. I'm a go and get. I'm going to get this four year. Sixty million tray of couldn't control it. Look they're gonna try to get lou about it or two they don gifts because this whole thing in pg skew. Did you see what he went on a man in a stack and he blamed everybody except paul george. We blame doc. We didn't make adjustments askew they ain't no adjustment for gagging my grandmother you. Almost choke busload is driven into fan. That's the only adjustment you can make gag but it's more there is no adjustment. So what adjustment could i may get for you hitting the side of the backboard. What adjustment could make us thinking it up even a dog after everything you went through dot you remember he was. He went through what he went through even at what he did. The dogs daughter dog said that to the side win to room and talked to him. You just got to be aggressive. Paul george after all you come up with that man you the wrong way. So what did you get that. Three one lead by that. You had three. What leave. But i told you this will be a problem. You got a bunch of guys That are not on the level of ron and try to get lebron. James perks and that don't work now. I want you had the same energy. Because you anytime lebron's fans lebron does skip bayless on with both be difficult. Why i need that kind of energy for the komo waited my turn your thank you. What you just uttered was the biggest bunch of hypocritical. baloney you've ever uttered on this show. You were all but crawling for leonard in during that free agent period of july ago. You wanted him desperately came on here everyday just cheerlead. We gotta did. We got he would have been all of those demanding exact same special treatment from the lakers. You know it head i know. Where did he have in toronto. He had all of the above what happened in toronto. They won the championship. What was he telling everybody who wanted him on the open market. I come under my own conditions. If you want me you gotta give me this special treatment better you guys give me the game. The lakers were prepared to bow down for quite leonard. I'm sorry they just were. Lebron has his own special treatment. But we don't hear much about it because he's earned it. He deserves the first thing. Say paul george had had their own security guards and trainers lebron's always had his own security guard. Trae michael jordan always had several security guards. The great tim grover independent of the bulls. So all of this stuff is much ado about nothing practice. Schedules story during the bubble that lebron and had finally decided we don't like shoot arounds anymore. It's a staple of nba life. You gotta get up. You gotta go over to the gym where you're gonna play that night and just shoot around. Walk through a couple of things that you might do. Different run is just what every team has always done since the beginning of nba time. And they said you know what this is foolish. We're not gonna do it anymore. It's the same issue. It's the same thing but the difference is the leadership. Lebron james burst the lack of leadership. What they had to they. I will agree with that especially when it came to the bubble. But i want everybody to think about this. Here's the centerpiece quote in this article. And i'm not knocking. The article is well done well reported but the centerpiece quote is from a clippers source. How'd he ever build a strong team with that bleep. Going on i thought from the beginning. We're doomed kawai. Wants too much special treatment. Okay number one he. He had the same treatment in toronto and they won the championship. So how can you be doomed in land with the same treatment number two. What happened on opening night year ago. The clippers took the lakers all apart in the fourth quarter. Mostly because of leonard down the stretch he took the game over. Lebron score points in the fourth in his first game scored zero points in the fourth quarter. What happened on christmas day. You know what happened. The clippers took the game over pat blocks lebron at the end of the game. They won again. The lakers got even. But guess what was happening while the lakers got even coming outta all-star break just before the pandemic hit the clippers took off. They were on a roll. They won six straight games. A doctor was talking about. we're finally clicking. We finally figured it out. And then all of a sudden when i told you they needed reps and the season finish and you needed rest. You got rest. We didn't get reps. So doc was telling me how it was broken at that point it was. It was fixed always great kuwa- and paul george are the type of leaders. As long as the smooth sailing. Everything will be fine all right if the card needs some repairs. They don't know they don't know anything. Okay then here comes the bubble and what happened to the clippers. Half the team didn't want to be in the bubble and all of a sudden zoo bots in landry shamet got covert before the bubble. You know and then. Marcus morrison demarco. Green were late for personal reasons. And then all of a sudden you know what happens. There's some death in the family issues. Going on and trez has to leave. Lou will house to leave and then their hearts were never in it and mantras was just a bust. When he came back he was out of shape and he was out of sync and again one of the fixes that this peace talks about. Is that dot shoe. Started cutting tresors minutes. But he wouldn't do it. He hung with him until it was too late because he became a decent cutting. Paul george will. You can argue that. The point was here. Came pat bev into the bubble. Any memory pulled his calf and he missed a bunch of time so the team was having a hard enough time because the two stars only played together for eleven games during the regular season with. Here's the thing they'll skip if you can't practice together. How do we get ripped. Skip if you can't practice at least lake had a training camp it which all the guys were. There had off season surgery. Paul george w bush. We didn't get didn't get the practice training camp. At least the lakers got a training camp. Yell shoot around shoot around going over there. Okay i get it but how will you ever going to get this. When you didn't give this in training camp. Yeah but paul george skill paul george was the last guy had. He had an outstanding playoffs. Maybe he can say something but what about why into points and a game. Seven in the second half. What about paul. George hitting us out of the building. But don't come to me with it's broken in. They were the favorite the betting favourite the oddsmakers favourite going into the postseason in the bubble. The clippers were favored. Not the lakers and the clippers in every game against denver. They were bigger favorites than the lakers. Were going to be against denver. So all along the oddsmakers those who break these games down. They were saying clippers or better clippers or better than the lakers. They showed you that. Every game and the clippers in the close out games. I'm going to remind everybody there had by fifteen in the first close out in the second one and twelve in the next year where they've broken internally. I will give you that. Because doc was giving up on this team. And i don't condemn him for that. He just thought that they weren't listening to him anymore. I thought he sat back on the bench because he got sick and tired of them. And he's been there and done all that he's one ring with the celtics. Obviously he just folded his arms on the bench and said you guys figure it out and the credibility what paul george said on the Snow was that that didn't even try to fix it. Once it started going south. These like you guys figured it out. Figure it out. Because i'm sick and tired of you. That's what happened so they didn't strategically try to change. Paul george triumph fix nothing. Because i didn't even bring this up but what happened early in the bubble to paul george. He openly talked about the depression and anxiety was suffering. He was broken in the bubble he was having a hard time. And what would what brought on depression and anxiety. It was him cracking because of the expectation skills you he. He talked about the just being confined to the ball. Couldn't take and look. I'm not knocking him. Because they're issued the mental health issues. Initial is serious. It was really serious in the bubble because they're stuck there because what skill they paired him. Why says i need what lebron ad. I need that now. We've lost we bought into the rug. He called k. d. first and then he called jimmy butler. He asked real. He asked a lot of guys and settled on. Paul george so the precious gift. Because here's the thing it's kim. Nobody thought paula jones. Who's gonna win. No timely indiana. Nobody though paula jones the window title okay. I did that pressure to go there with that guy. That guy had won a championship of skill. I don't care what anybody says. Nobody thought the rappers go win that title when they traded for nobody odeal represent women noted head k. d. not got hurt and he still wouldn't know that i know that but scale bela's i keep telling you so. Now what okay. He loan manager last year and then when the title so can go back to practice and now member. How close they were. It's hard to get up three one on the denver nuggets. 'cause they're really talented. It's hard to get up fifteen in one thousand nine hundred and twelve on the nuggets and close out games. But they couldn't close it because they weren't together enough. They hadn't had enough reps together. There are whole rotation had only been together for eleven games through the year where they had everybody healthy so it ready for this and they don't have a quality point guard. That's why i want to rondo. You got one. Nope they do. Not so i just. I just skip but the thing is your guys aren't better than my guys. Your two best players aren't better than my two best players. That's the different magin. The youth by the pandemic what happened in two thousand twenty s bad. Let lebron james had had a three one lead and had a fifteen nineteen and twelve point lead in the last three games in lieu carpet while little odd kept telling you kept slapping you in the face with the clippers are more talented. I kept pushing the winning ticket picking a nugget. I take the lakers pay cash and winning tickets. Here's the conclusion to this. Expose that you were just gloating over. The conclusion says the clippers had as much if not more talent than any other team in the nba last season but the ingredients never quite mixed right a- by that skill outlook your hair. You and i both your brother. We can take give us the same ingredients and you give those ingredients. The bobby flay. He's gonna make a dish that tastes better than even though we get the exact same greedy. It's okay for the sake of argument. The lakers are equally talented. Put the guy that we got cooking and go. Jane's wait a second now. We got surge skinny literally. Tell you what it really cook his own cooking. Show you can't out here serge. Ibaka kuehbacher walk along later than five five. I got clips on opening night and everybody is gonna be like why don't eight because he and put his hand behind his back and keep his head down like little your data into the rack and run between your legs laying lebron statue view. Let's get out skill a little. You will in dallas where they waited the titled opening day or that sunday could back then. They didn't play that sunday. They dropped the just go bonkers. Imagine being in that arena and to know down in the basement. But i keep telling you feel a duplex never lived in duplex. Will you live on the top to bottom floor and you can hear everything and because we of the debate we could hear all these rollerblades. Why wasn't hard. Hey sometimes don't eighth. We don't treat abra you don't see what you wanna do. You howard headed back pack. When they got back then came on upstairs. I love the story for kawhi leonard. Somewhere he's in the lab right now saying okay watch. What did you michael grieve. Who care don't don't do this don't do that. Don't do any did not want him. They did not try to keep hold on. Oh but we rondo. Long john rondo. Y'all detail allows white. How would you keep going danny green. Keep going yeah we we we. We got which are. Wha wha what did you have that anybody else in the nba won't do retail. No one on wednesday afternoon full. Yesterday and the steelers remained undefeated leading the ravens. Nineteen fourteen former heisman trophy winner robert griffin. The third started for lamar jackson. Well you had a tough outing. rg three only completed. Seven passes for thirty three yards with eight. Pick six before finally leaving the game with a hamstring injury. Shame how did you feel seeing. Rg three out there. They'll say remember what he was. He was lamar jackson before lamar jackson. That's what he could of being. He was column before column. Murray what he could be skipped he could ron. He had world class. speed is what they were. He had world class speed as a hurdler. He could throw the ball skip. I mean he threw for three thousand yards a rookie ramp over eight hundred yards and skill. He had eighty yard to remember that touchdown run against minnesota. He just hit the corner. he was gone. He'll go out the entire defense and and the same thing that happened to him. Earns career happened yesterday. They helped us get. This is only the second start since two thousand sixteen. He got hurt his rookie season. He got hurt the next season he goals do. He goes to cleveland in his first game. He thinks he's a full back. He tried to run the gal any blow the shoulder on and yesterday what he does get hamstring kids. They have and what what he wants to be. Is a pass. From the pocket quarterback but skip. How can you be from a path for the pocket quarterback when that's not what your offense is so he would literally need to spend three hours a day. Just doing drop back in conventional set. Well that's not. Your offense off is not predicated like that. And what he didn't understand skip is that he wasn't a pure dropback. Passer coming out so it was gonna feel my holds. Thought he thought about it takes us day so him and the ball was nothing. He didn't run the zone. Read stuff it was just throw you look at the proficient at about looking john foodball they allow with auto ball a lot in and and rg three. He wanted to be peyton manning. Tom brady and drew brees when he could have been the best. Rg three and that would have been plenty good enough yell at his mind. He was never going to get their prey. Adulation the respect. He deserved back because even though he run rookie of the year. People with heaping praise on andrew luck. Because he was more like peyton prototypical quarterbacks skip felt sad because this kid could have been special and all we have the now's like what could have been. Yeah and that's all. I think about what could have been yep likewise when. Rg three. came out of college. I became the biggest fan of his. And i want to remind everybody. He's still only thirty years of age. It feels like he's been around for twenty years. It hasn't been that long but look older than that he does. And i'm with you yesterday. It was hard for me to watch. He wound up seven of twelve thirty three yards. I saw one brief. Glimpse of the old. Rg three yeah. He got loose for a thirty nine yard on. I think we have the video. This something like a quarterback power. Just just split them right up the middle and all of a sudden. I'm but i'm saying. Yeah oh yeah. Yeah i remember that guy and it it got him in position to completely mismanaged the clock at the end of the. I don't know how it happened. But they allowed the steelers to hold. Rg three wasn't even hurry light. He's gonna come on guys. We gotta get gotta go. And yet he did lob a little potential touchdown. Pass to luke wilson. I thought he had it for a second wilson. Tara i know i got it. I got it so the point. Is this once upon a time on a saturday night. Back in twenty. Eleven on big as you know. University of oklahoma sooners fan. I had to sit and watch robert griffin torch. My sooners he threw for four hundred. Seventy nine yards that night in waco texas four touchdowns no interceptions ran for seventy two more. So that's five hundred. And thirty one total yards against my sooners. And i said that is special and i said before the draft that kids going to be better than andrew luck who i watched a lot at stanford and he was a mistake maker. He was a big turnaround. Close to being turnover machine ish. Where he was a ruse area would get coming. So i said i would take robert over andrew luck and he proved me right for that year because you remember a year man mike shanahan with call shan along the player of the week in his first start against new orleans get ones he was and then he was offensive rookie of the year. They won the division. What a year he had until late in the year. One fateful day against baltimore. These same ravens. He now plays. He took off late in the game. One fifty six left in that game on a second nineteen and he ran thirteen yards and ran into one. Lucky not dot roberts slide just slide. Just get down get no. Don't do that get there. will you look at it. I caught broke his leg. To and i said no no. Don't tell me so. They take him in the tent. He tried to come back and play. That was the beginning of the end of what wh- you saw a special because he should have just probably called it a year at that point. We'll see what they wanted to do. They wanted him to take time off. But you remember. They play cleveland next week. Yup i came in. He did a unbelievable job and the robert. I'm starting in. The arner told by that he was going to start robert. Yep that was not the original plan. The original plan was to have him take three four weeks off so he started the last game against philly. Okay which led to the home playoff game against seattle and it led to a fourteen nothing. Rg three lead. And then you know the rest of the story. It was horrendous would happen because it got wrecked beyond wrecked. And then here. We went with the second year. The the off season documentary the will to win and he documented all of his recovery like married going to kentucky derby he would all the things that really knock escape if you say. Look i'm not say look you want to get married. I mean i would like to think so that baby look. We will do this but right now. My future is in the balance because this is a serious injury for me. Yeah and so. Let's just take it out. Let me rehab skin. You'll need to document no rehab bra in that perot. Yesterday's wanna joe haden trap corner. The steelers loved the play of what we call. Cover six quarter. That was the role corner. He's not teach. Hey and try to get mcsorley faithfully he looked at. It did hit our hollywood brown. Hollywood gophers i'm like what are you doing. Covered covered through to that side pro but but so he became to me what i started calling. Rg i in washington. They call him are g me and to your point. His parents when his father went in to see mike shannon the off season and said. Hey we've decided our son is now peyton manning no more run but we don't want to run the zone read anymore. And i'm thinking you don't wanna rex. He's really good at it if he learned to slide. But he wouldn't learn this like dave and brought in somebody from the washington nationals to teach them to slide and he couldn't figure out how to get down it would rub scale of the relationship that he had with the owner. yup me. you can't be run to the game with the owner with security detail no bra. You can't be separate like that. But like you said his his parents saw him one way it think about it. They did everything. They went down there and they talked to art browse and they adopted. Skip the west coast offense that he was running iran. That offense. I know what the west coast. That's not it. They put an office in especially for him. That's what good coaches do. That's what good offense coordinator do the pasta. You know. we'll what are you good at okay. We'll build off his around. You know. I want to drop back bra. But you're not there yet is a gradual process. Steam young had to learn how to throw them out from the pack. What was the do. I thought he go. But then all of a sudden he became one of the guys store for the no he took time. Yup rg three now. I ain't got time. I need this right now. So for me robert griffin. The third became the saddest on field performance. Story i've ever seen in your league or brilliant sports talking about off-field tragedy. I'm talking about on field going from up here to down or what we saw yesterday. Really that happened. You're still only thirty years of age. I mean you should be in the middle of your prime right now. They're gonna try to look then catching the steelers. The vision is gone. You hope for the playoffs. Now you got to kind of shot. But they got a pretty well. Yeah i mean basically the big the cowboys at home at the browns. The browns seem to be hit their stride. They get the jags. Jack not doing. They're going to face the giant without daniel jones. And then you get the bengals would joe burrow so they can win for they might wanna all nikola like four or five very reasonable so tune in fix they should get. You'll playoff spot. But as he could have been lamar. Give lamar yeah. Ours rooting for him yesterday. That was a big stage for him. To to rise jain s a lot of the players had mixed emotions about even being outright. So take it over. Go and i'll i'll that isn't short. Look you understood that when you there was not going to be a bubble situation. Yep so you understood that. Nfl do all they possibly can. And they've made it abundantly clear at the beginning of the year we don't get enough about competitive balance of we contain this. We don't contain it. So if you lose all in office lion tidier than the why he was playing offensive line. Be you understood that the guys will come with that. We miss no check. And that's you. We're gonna get them checked. We'll get them. So i'm here about the broncos. They went out there with a quarterback that was filling law. Moore's two days ago close competitor ballots virus contained. You go into play. So they don't move. They moved to their pope postpone. But d'abre you gotta get up. Did you can't make no excuses because everybody's going through the exact same thing. Don has been great since his nba. Debut and via king has noticed. Lebron called luca quote one of the best players in the nba and once so far to say he wanted to start a nike team. Lebron this first signee so shannon. What do you make. Lebron's gushing praise here. Lebron sees a lot of himself in luca. A guy that can do all things. He can score the basketball. He says the basketball he can rebound the basketball. He's a walkin triple double and like i said he was. I think he's just about the same age. Lebron was when he got into the nba. And you know so. Lebron sees a lot of himself and luka doncic also skip. I'm surprised that lebron was so public about this. Especially that nike with kind of hesitant or resistant to the fact of starting a team. Lebron line now you know they got the brand jordan. Which is still under the umbrella of nike. But i think nike was like you know what we rather just like. Cut you a check for forty million as opposed to having to give you a percentage because you know obviously brand jordan you know. He gets a percentage of that. It was a lot either. Plus lebron sees skip not only luca star in america the international market. So the bras like okay. Young guy looks like he's going to be on the same for a minute. He's only getting better. So i can see lebron saw. I can see lebron. But i'm surprised that lebron said this publicly. I'm surprised at nike was. I shouldn't be surprised. Because look if i make more money on it. Now do that. Also so. But i'm surprised lebron that porsche you tell you get. Can you tell the truth. Now you know tequila down that lobos now will eat a little brain needs a also you some care. Package is chung got a little loose via and he said it so i will give you the lebron sees in luca gifted passer just gifted and a gifted score the basketball it however he he can figure it out he just scores. Lebron can do that too. When he decides to score he can score in bunch yet. I wonder if he looks at him and sees some of the same flaws early on that lebron had to fight through. Because i keep telling you. Luke is a poor shooter and a poor free throw shooter for superstar because you've are already proclaimed miss superstar but look at last year. He made thirty one point six percent of his three point shots. So that's early. Lebron esque lebron has gotten better category but but Luca that ranked one hundred and fortieth of one hundred and forty seven qualified players. Three point shooting. He's one forty really was going to be taking a hundred and fifty old step bags. Okay but that's about one hundred forty seven players men free throw shooting. He's gonna shoot a ton because he can get to the basket but he ranked eighty fifth out of one hundred eighteen quality. Who qualified free to get better. Okay is he going to get. Yeah i don't know that. I know then we get to clutch nece issue. I've had with lebron going back to his first couple years. Not no moto. Okay klutziness for luca and do realize last year in with a minute or less than fourth quarter and overtime this is during the regular season he. He led the whole league in three point shooting. Mrs threes missed in the last minute of games that were close. He ranked number one in that category with the most and prior to that one big shot that he hit to beat the clippers and what was a game. Four of that series. Luca had been over ten on potential game tying or or go ahead shots in the final minute of regulation or overtime. He was over ten until he finally hit that one to beat the clippers so he was having big clutch issues and finally he was having mental and physical toughness issues because the book on him early on was remember that november first game last year at dallas. I was just. I think the book was just just rough him up right just cheap. Shot him a little bit knocking off. His game came out of the book all european players because the play more free flowing type ballgame. So let's put bodies on them. Let's make sure make sure they feel our presence. And so you know you get physical with a guy like that but it's only twenty years old so he'll put a little little little muscle on getting jail going to be deal with then. You remember what kaku smith said. After that game talk about defensively here kaku smudges blurted out. We passed the ball to whoever luca was guarding. Okay you want to put them in a bigger roles. So that wasn't a flaw for lebron early on he could defend it remember. That's what john instead of. James harden all star. Abc's picking up we've also by the play deep is it is it. Will your scheme at the end. The ball game will he was guarded. We want him to get the ball and was wrong about that. James harden this past year. He defended at a high level. He his defense of rating was very high. That'd be lebron say well okay. I'll take you don't want it. Yeah it was like. He was just like he was picked over all day. You don't want hard but skit look so do you think lebron sees. He has sort of sympathetic view. Of like i see the flaws but he can overcome. Yeah yeah you'll be great but you know he'd he'd be like they. Larry wants what you said. But i think you were starting to go to. He is larry byrd next. He's got the on deck. Next larry shannon sharpe skip escaped. First of all is a rarity. Larry bird wasn't normal. Labor would be good in any era the way he the ball. Can you imagine the way he can shoot the ball now in the space without the physicality. Yeah man larry probably average thirty five larry bird out shooter. Good ninety percent of his free throws and three point wasn't emphasized as much forty nine guy he could be that. Yeah ok luca for me. The reason i withhold my blessing of him. I don't wanna see a superstar who can't shoot especially one who vandals. I don't believe you'll live shoot ninety. I don't believe he'll go from seventy five to ninety percent from the free throw line. But i do believe he can be a thirty five. Thirty six percent. Three point shooter skip but have to understand skill. These guys a lot of the shows that they're taking now making they were frowned upon. Scummy will allow you to shoot no step back threes. These guys just what everybody shooting to step back three now. Dave heart is perfect and one leg is three a run in one leg at three point. Shot normally these shows. These guys are shootings shooting at the end of the have or quarter not in fifteen seconds on the shot clock. Yep but which game did the nba put in. Its marquee primetime slot on christmas evening. Lebron got let measure question. Who did you think should be in prime time. Five o'clock pacific type you. You should be eastern. What the problem. It should have been against the clippers. But that's the night earlier. They punish the clippers. They sent him into denver. Go back maybe you. Maybe you need to rabin's to late. We already bet on it. You'll gachot they got your michael. Continuous ain't got no heart there. If we get down by fifteen points ain't got no heart or whatever. We'll see how to late chris. We'll see keep talking about paul george and kawhi ninety well in two days. It's the fight event of the fall. As undefeated gerald smith junior takes on danny garcia for the world welterweight championship available on pay per view or by the fight on fox. Sports dot com slash. Dpd and watch on any screen. You want boxing analyst and her heavyweight champ. Lewis joins the show now to discuss the that saturday but before we get into it lennox. I know you watched mike tyson and roy jones junior last weekend. What did you make of. Tyson's performance from grey's great soc- mike tyson backing the ring again and You know a lot of people catch some asto james in there and Bring back old times. My son really opened my eyes to what he said that can you. Can you actually believe it. Monthly watching guys. Boxton your era. So i'm like yeah that's great so it was it was it was. He was at before that. Are you suffering a nostalgic breakdown or trying to get back into the ring. Not really this guys out there. They're still calling my name so lennox from fifty four year old mike tyson. The man you defeated and sort of ended his his real career. Did you see legitimate punching power left in that body of his. Well you know. Mike tyson still got the mechanics of boxing and he knows how to pivot term. He knows the by mechanics of boxing. So yes he's got wait is out power still and he wound up a couple times. You know the ones ac on the pad. Boom boom boom that quick combination. He had to slow down because if he would have really came through with that combination or jones be knocked out with roy. Jones was tired dust because then with the heavyweight is moving around this one again then he has to holden. There's two components there plus fe. Roy was also carry some extra weight. Roy is not used to carrying to fifteen. Even though it's only eight rounds and i think it's two made it puerile. That's still a lot of weight for him. A guy that mainly at super middleweight. One sixty eight. Oh absolutely. I mean you know this is. That's probably walking around weight right. And then you trade and you get down to a certain weight class that you feel comfortable to box with so lennox. What would happen if mike tyson at fifty four took on a legitimate contender. I know i would pay to see it. But what do you think i would see. See young man against an old man. You know what i mean. There's a time when you know boxes needs to stop because the young guys are just hungrier and you know. Fifty four is is the wrong time to be boxing again. You gotta be boxing in your in your teens and your twenties and thirties you also saw the undercard you saw nate robinson takes on take on a youtube youtube jake. Paul tell the people at home. What went wrong with nate. What why why was he. What did you see. well you know. Boxing is a very serious for a life and death sport and there's a lot of people that really put the time into it and they sacrifice the time and you know this is not no play thing is is a serious thing people get hurt and this is just a reminder that you know if you if you're in boxing take it seriously no you. He'd probably took it seriously. I'm not saying he didn't take it seriously. But you know you need experience experiences the key. If you don't have experience then you get caught in situation. You don't know how to do this embarrassing so I don't know how much boxing he took. Or if he had some fights previous which he should've and that will help the whole thing. But you know sensitive ancient. Somebody put entertained. Lennox put mike tyson sum this up. I put put mike tyson sort of life and times in his boxing career into perspective. How do you view him in the big picture. You're talking about Big pitcher as him fighting again or big now know who was he. what was he as as a champ. And then one who struggled mike tyson. We've only gone through trials and tribulations and mike tyson. you know. He came from a rough background where you know he had some people look after him a custom model and the cared for him then. Customer wasn't there for a while and You know he seemed to go downhill in the sense of going through different dramas would promoters and personally and publicly and then you know the reinsertion of mike tyson is back again and you know he's doing good things in movies is got his own show You know he's doing check. Great charity work. So this is the kind of turn around. You wanna see in. Somebody's life you know as the up and down story same thing with my documentary the untold story. A lot of people don't know My history. How how what might path was what i went through. And this gives them an overview of my career as well so and mike tyson's very much in there as well and you could see how long been him were connected it. Since we're fifteen really we've been we've been connected them you know of seen him where we've been friends. He's taking up to his room and we've watched Old time fights. He actually educated me about old time fighters and and the history of boxing. I was. I was amazed at how much he knew about that. So he educated me on that way. Yeah the movie of your life. It's called lennox. Lists the untold story is narrated by dr dre and when when is it available this available right now right now on crackle available and Yeah please go see it and tell me what you think okay. We shall so now. Let's turn to. What's coming up saturday night. You're to be there for the aerospace pal. Aerospace junior vs danny garcia. I'm going to ask you the question. Every boxing fan wants to know. Obviously about a year ago errol spins. Junior was involved in a horrific life threatening car crash. Got ejected from his vehicle eventually charged with dwi. Nobody seems to know. What does he have left. Now what will he be. What what is your gut telling you. What what should we expect from him this saturday night and his return to the ring. This is the big question everybody wants to know that you know when somebody goes through a big accident like that or maybe a loss is almost like a loss because it kind of throws you back it was in the hospital bed do some operation and now he's coming back against one of the top guys danny garcia you know. He's no slouch is a serious competitor. And you know he say aerospace is saying is okay we just want to see if he's okay. Nobody really knows for sure is not one hundred percent until he gets in there to always see him perform with and we're satisfied but he's okay benny's okay so you know this. This is what makes an exciting fights because a physics different aspects of the fight which we know we have to look at. We have to look at is he okay. Did that accident affected We'll danny garcia able to Tell everybody down the lie. It's not the truth and You know i'm excited about the. I'm looking forward to. These guys are great fighters and just want to show their talent and they've got a lot of town. What will you be looking forward to seeing. If aerosmith junior is okay. What when would you know about. Will you know about the second third round with will. The fight need to go if it goes later. Will you know how you know okay. He's the same guy yet. Just how the fights gonna go because there's different ways that he could fight the fight. He's he's usually he. He likes to go after his guy. Right and apply his own crush. You likes to do his own thing in this. So is danny garcia going to allow that. Or if he's if he's able to stop it we're going to have to see and then we're going to have to say she gets hit by a couple of shots and how he reacts with be shots and he'd look in the middle rounds how does he look in the last couple of rounds. Those different things Is he is he. Listening to was corner You know what information is given. Is that the right information. Different factors in a fight. Well i wanted to win. 'cause i wanna see him in bud but thermo fighting. Everybody wants to see. That's what you wanna see. That's what i wanna see. That's the fight. Everybody wants to see it. Turns conference he had tears buck robert. Yeah yeah yeah. Abso listen nother amazing. Fight off the little guys young guys. They're great and they just want to go out there and perform and we wanna see great performances about ladies includes got one more tired like tyson and roy. Jones klitschko lewis. You doubt a maybe what about tyson. I'll be holo to fight. Did somewhere between one point two at one point. Five million biden limit. That'd be nice. that'd be a nice little. Oh yeah that's nice. Steak is jewish back to undisputed well renowned author and good friend of the show. Dyson joins us now. He's got a new book longtime coming reckoning with race in america. But before we get into that skiff. I know you're extra excited. Have michael on the show. 'em is tell us. I would like our viewers to know that. Dr dyson an i now family. Because he's recently moved from georgetown to my alma mater where he belonged all along vanderbilt university. Thank you very much. Dr dyson for being an esteemed professor at my school offer. You skip i am. I am there as a commodore. I'm hanging out. I gotta go holler at the stackhouse and see almost of people there at vanderbilt from the provost wednesday to dean gear to tracy sharply whiting share the department and emily towns the head of the divinity school. I'm just excited. I can be the be q. I am so proud to have you know doug. Georgetown vanina Stopping don't make snoop dogg. So michael eric dyson let us start talking about your book which i hold in my hand ginny just mentioned it longtime coming opening page is a tribute to one lebron james and you list his accolades and then you thank him for standing with black people without excuse or apology and for embracing people of all races around the world. Then you use a quote from lebron about. I'll just read the first of it. Black men black women black kids. We are terrified. You have no idea how that cop that day left his house. You don't know if he had an argument with his significant other or maybe he just left his house today. Thinking that today is going to be the end of one of these black people. That's what it feels like. It hurts said lebron. James could you please talk about his contribution off the court. Everything you've written about in this book. He's extraordinary first of all. Thank you all so much for having me as usual. Lebron james unparalleled in this generation and not since muhammad ali have. We seen an athlete a world class athlete. Who also according to the philosopher. Hegel a world historical figure right to get nerdy. The point is this guy is at the height of his fame. The greatest basketball player in the world in the conversation go to be sure and he has leveraged. Wow he is still famous while he is still powerful while he still has a platform while everything. Commercially is at stake. While he is changed the game from within in terms of being able to determine what team you will go to and shifting the balance of power from the east to the west and the like with all of that he has also taken a stand to defend ordinary everyday. Black people that next people people whose backs are against the wall the speak up about racial injustice to talk about the need to use their particular platform to withdraw their services to withhold their labor if necessary in the aftermath of the shooting of jacob blake in kenosha to show the world that there was something even more important than sports and that is the humanity that must be seated so those who play the sport anti those who look like them. If we are to have a genuinely just and real. I think equal society so lebron james is extraordinary and Pretty much unparalleled at this point. When i look at the book and the way you have it. Format is like each chapter led to the victim. Like brianna taylor. Allies mclean imitate. Why why did you forget the book like this. Well i want to what they call an epistolary form to write letters. I wanted to write letters to them. Not about them about them. I can do that all day long. But to speak to them even posthumously. Both of you are men of faith. You understand the the sense of the the great cloud of witnesses that surround us. The ancestors to which i was speaking. I wanted to sit down and commune with them. To meditate upon the meaning of life of death of social struggle of social strife of trauma of grief and see if we couldn't by thinking with them talking to them begin to work our way through the pain and the trauma we are left with and what their lives mean to us as a result of their martyrdom and by the way could i add as a writer myself. This was a brilliant structure of open letters in this book. It is so create a red at all. I couldn't stop because to write an open letter. To george floyd to brianna taylor eric garner on and on it allows you a different voice. Different entry point to put it into perspective to to them as deceased victim of police. Brutality that we've talked and talked about on this show. So i appreciate that dr. Thank you so very much. So let's go bigger picture shannon. And i have talked endlessly on this show about what we felt post. George floyd was was something of an awakening in this country. Something of enlightenment. Maybe some progress was being made. Now that we're a few months removed from that. Are we still moving forward in your view right now. That's a great question. Look you have ups and downs peaks and valleys intense period of commitment and then kind of retreat. We're seeing the subsiding of the intense passion about reckoning with racial injustice about talking about systemic racism for a while there. We talked about it every day. People made pledges. People took to social media to pledge their commitment to black people. Corporate structures were being reinvestigated. People were being introspective and self critical now not so much. But that doesn't mean that we've lost the will to reconcile ourselves to a new reality. It means that the harder work begins. The unsexy work begins. It's a real sexy to go on. Tv and talk. It's real sexy to hit a street protests. It's real sexy. To tell the world through an amplified microphone. What your intent is less sexy but equally important to withdraw to retreat and do the hard everyday work of reexamining. Our practices are friendships or relationships. What we do on the job do at home how much we devote ourselves to making. Sure that this world is better regardless of the outcome of the election. Whatever side you stood on at the end of that election. Are you willing to gather up your loins so to speak the gert of your lawns and look at the reality of america and see what white supremacy white nationalism. The hurt and pain of white bigotry. The hurt and pain of racism as done to us and do the difficult work one to one but also institutionally in systematically any word that ends in system has to be examined healthcare system public education system criminal justice system so when we look at these words. Systemic racism is about examining really the heart of the systems the institutions and the structures that continue to perpetuate a legacy of inequality dot although seventy six. Excuse me six. Eighty million people said you know what the the the country's zone we no longer want to be on that path but seventy four seventy five million people says i'm perfectly fine with where it is in america are you. I'm a little heartbroken. I really am because you know in a way. I'm glad i hate twenty twenty happy because a covert and so many people lost their lives and so many people lost their job. But i'm glad from sixteen to twenty twenty to happen because it showed that black people are not. they're delusional. That is not a figment about magic and that racism is an isolated incident. That's the situation that happened over there or that happened over here. Seventy five seventy five million people so you know what we call we call with. What happened in charlottesville. We cool would happen in kenosha we call. What happened in minneapolis. Really are we really progressing. All we really powerfully and beautifully. Let me let me say this though you know when some people do poll and they asked the question a certain way and you go. Oh heck no heck no and then they say but no. I know you don't want to de-fund the police. That's you hear that you go nuts but do you want the police killing people. Well no do you want. The police are called for somebody. Who's mentally ill to show up and then end up handcuffing hurting them. What we'll know. Do you want the color of a person's scan to determine the ability of the police handle will no do you want the police to be so resourced. Bet they have such strong unions that no matter how we say sangley and rationally. Can we look at some of the practices that are problematic and the police. Union goes heck. No we won't do a thing. We won't budget all are you with that. We'll know within your for defunding. The police the way people mean it is just that the words being used seem problematic to you so the reality is this. I believe that. The defunding of the polices critical. We've tried reforming. We've tried to do everything else but abolish the system as it exists now to reinvent it in a way that is just it doesn't mean public safety won't be taken care of. It doesn't mean that we wanna tend to the needs of people's in local communities to be protected by criminals. It means that we won't end up demonizing and criminalizing the people we are called to protect. Let me reply to what you just said. So seventy four seventy five million people when they were asked. Hey do you want to have your bottom bottom line. Taking care of yes. Do you want the budget to really a favor. You in a serious way and doesn't hurt the future yes. Do you want the government to stay out of your offices and your jobs and allow you to do the right thing. Yes so when you ask. Though seventy four million people the question one way they think donald trump savior why he speaks directly a lot of politicians bullcrap and lie in our mendacious to donald trump was up front about what he believes. So people like that they like that rivera. They liked that much. He's like that tell it like it. Is john wayne stuff but the problem is it was backed up by glass. Smoke and mirrors. It was a bunch of you know nothing. That's at the heart of what he was doing. So let's acknowledge that people were sold a bill of goods that they really didn't get delivered on. So what we have to do is to say to them. Eighty million people saw that. If you want america to be the best country it can be. You've got to be more open not less open. You've got to embrace everybody. And not just a few people. And what i think the present president elect and vice president-elect suggest to us as this we are able to push them to disagree with him to suggest to them that there are things you're doing right and things you're doing wrong and they're open minded about it. The problem with the present president is a vicious indifference and intolerance to truth justice evidence and anything that makes common sense to people so we have to convince those other citizens that what you were being sold was a bill of goods. That is not true democracy. And i'll say this mitch. Mcconnell and lindsey. Graham are just as problematic as donald trump every was donald trump had no experience with politics. We knew he didn't know what the heck he was talking about. But these men in the senate an honorable institution that is filled with intelligent and wise people. They have abrogated their responsibility. They have abdicated. The maury bully pulpit that they should try and they have been complicit with a vicious racist president who has been in different not only to black and brown people but to poor white people and working class white people as well. They have been sold a bill of goods. Hopefully now. we're on a different path so yes progress is possible but we gotta work on it every day. So let's come full circle back to lebron. Can you compare his contributions today to campaigning for racial justice to muhammad. Ali's back in the sixties and seventies. Yeah that's a great point. I think so. And here's what's interesting about. Lebron as great as ali was ali was forced into a position because they stripped his title from him and when they stripped his title from him he had no other recourse but to use every resource possible to get back in that ring and to challenge the vicious white supremacy that had snatched that from in the first place and the narrow sense of patriotism prevail. Lebron james voluntarily took on this position with being forced to the brian. James as an organic matter of his ratio conscience began to stand with this people from the very beginning. Think about it and my son. Michael eric dyson. The second pointed this out to me yesterday. I can't take credit for this. He said look at colby. Look at your three grades dad. He said the three greatest. A you are kobe jordan and lebron he said koby and jordan came from two parent households where they had legitimately powerful and strong father figure there so what they did was remarkable on their own but they had support. Lebron james grew up in a home without a stable. Father figure often being left alone to fend for himself. And despite the extraordinary difficulties he confronted. He has risen to the top of his game. He is the greatest athlete. In the world. Today along serena williams and stands poised to take the title that Brother shannon sharpe has been giving him from day one in regard to being the greatest of all time. I mean when you put it all together is hard to save the internet. And i would say would you put it up where you put it all together. You put all these ingredients together. Come up with that dish. You can't help but like now. I see tomorrow ninety. Four th ranked. Wisconsin badgers take on in state rival marquette at seven eastern four pacific only on f s one and the fox. Sports russell westbrook. Well he is out in houston. Rockets traded the mvp to the wizards and they will get former all star. John wall and a future first round. Pick in the deal and now just this morning. It's being reported that james harden perferred teaming up with wal instead of west works so shannon. What is your reaction to this latest. Report my reaction is. I don't know of. James harden is going to be happy playing with anybody skipping remember. He wanted to white howard and then that didn't work. He wanted chris paul. Then that didn't work. He wanted rust. Then that didn't work then at some point in time the common nominated in houston is the same player but all the other players getting shipped out. I mean buried you feed that you might be part of the problem also so for me when you look at these. These guys are so similar with everything speed. Athleticism is large part of their game. They shoot the same basically from the floor from the three point line. They're both injury prone. They're both coming the contracts. So i don't know what is actually think he's getting because basically he's getting another russell westbrook guy that have a high usage rate when james hart is the usage game so i don't really know what he hoped what he's hoping by basically switching guys. I don't either. But i believe this was about russell. Westbrook originally speaking out before any of this happened saying i went out and he didn't go private with it. He went public with it. I need to go back to playing my game. Yes yes so once he did that. It's like you're bff has betrayed you publicly. so i'm not surprised that now james harden and saying well. i prefer john wall over brussels. You don't think he had that conversation with james. Who was i'd like to think he did but i don't know were you might be right because he might have chosen a different choice of word. Heavy had that conversation not say well. I wanna play my style of basketball. Just says look. I just think that probably shouldn't say anything. Just keep it behind the scenes publicly. Say inlet daryl morey whomever the gm. Now maury has gone mores gone. Let them handle that. Because it's not a good look now. That's my boy. We boys skip all of a sudden. I'll we be are they now. The bridge get burn all know all the trouble in paradise. I didn't think it was gonna work and like you said it. I mean if you look at the rough had twenty seven. Eight may james martin with russia's really tried to sacrifice for james and i thought it worked the best at cooler gruden ball. They had six hundred five. Is you're right and they did. Beat your lakers. Game number one. And that was the most impressive feat. They pulled off all year and then looked like they were poised at least make a series out of it and they lost daniel house to covert violation to obviously quarantine violation and then here they went south and once it went south then everybody blew up. Then then they said we gotta go our separate ways skip. I mean james has been eight nine years and he got rid of the white house complained cappella. Paul westbrook. I mean bra out. Remember they're more took out a full page ad as he left town. Well he put durham immoral now. He did but he said you changed my life and he did change his life james harden. That's fine well and good. But i think james doesn't want to be on that list of best players. The number one a championship. James harden wants to win a championship and i think in kobe before his. He doesn't think that style can win a championship. Yeah you put up tremendous numbers. It's all good now got we've never seen anything like it but to have one guy dominate the basketball that much. Even michael gave that up as much as michael wanted to dominate. The moment he gave it up because he can't feel him that you can't win a championship like that. 'cause we got away co doing his with ooh score putting up eighty one in sixty and three quarters but feels that we not championship. But you do that now. They get pow passed the ball. Kobe two more championship until james harden understand. You have to give up the ball. You can't dominated that much. He's going to be one of those guys. Best player never to win a championship is a car loan james harden if it charles barkley if it patrick ewing baylor. He's going to be on that list. You know and. I know there's only one path to a championship for james harden. Its through brooklyn right now. But he pull that off. He'd have a shot and he skipped. You'll be dominated you'd have to completely sacrifice exactly. Are you willing to do that. Scale could this so all of the ball brothers are now in the nba. Lavar predicted lamelo was the third pick in the draft last month and now middle brother. Liangelo is reportedly agreed to a one year non guaranteed contract with shannon as the var received enough credit. For all of this. no. I don't think he has have a lot to do with because people don't like it. Just like richard williams never got the credit he deserved for venus and serena skill. Because richard didn't care you tell you exactly what promoters whom everyone he get out his faith and keep it moving he and talk like lavar. No he wasn't he was just like there. Yeah but no lavar hadn't gotten the credit he deserves because people don't like him because he's brash and he says all these outlandish things but in all those outlandish things that he said he had two boys that were top three picks the nba draft and his third son. Just got an opportunity to make an mba roster. So he and his wife. Tina deserves a boatload of credit which they haven't received appropriate. I'm with you on this. You can take or leave lavar. You can say publicity hound you can say. He made himself the story above his three sons. He's an extraordinary human being. And if you look hard and analyze what he said on even on this show many times much of a much that he decreed predicted it came true to have three sons in nba camps. I don't know if liangelo the middle son we'll stick with detroit right. I help were the opportunity that one opportunity to right here right now. Three sons in nba camps is impossibly. Great it's all time great. And i congratulate not only lavar and thank you for bringing up tina too because i think she had a big in readiness what the thing is like people like archer. Many he don't say a whole lot of people like it and they give him credit and no pain brought up. His mom said well. If it wasn't for my mom olivia manning. Tom brady would have eleven rings. Because i stopped three times and twice. We have a level to re so he doesn't get mentioned as much yet. But we know archie we talk about arts and what a wonderful job that he's done and we talking about his grandson. That's doubted the school allowed to win too. So i just think that these we should give people their flowers while they're live and not heat so much. Free ingrid granted appraisal would be deserved forgiveness. Plow is now l. number. John agree it's impressive. Good stuff today is an undisputed some great guests as well. We're back same time friday wanted.

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Bill Cunningham 7/15/20

Bill Cunningham

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Bill Cunningham 7/15/20

"The. Billy Cunningham the great American welcomes Wednesday afternoon in the Tri State. coming up at five thirty. Mike, Dewine is going to announce possibly further measures to move southwestern. Ohio possibly from red to purple or back. Maybe Yellow Orange, not sure also We have bill hemmer of Fox News coming up in about an hour, but until then denise jerk tree houses the President of the county commissioners, and she's in charge of Hamilton county's much as any one person can be Indonesia House welcome again to the Bill Cunningham show denise. How are you? Doing well, thank you. How are you great data being American now? Can you give us an idea because those of us who live in certain parts of the county have no sense of what's happening in the other parts green. Township Sycamore ship the city's Cincinnati whatever it might be. Can you give us? An overview of were Hamilton County is about infection infection rates also hospitalizations that kind of stuff. Yeah so as far as positive cases are numbers. Are there hi there over a thousand weeks? A week of new cases that are positive, some of it's related the testing and an increase in testing. Some of it though is related to community spread. So that's what the health commissioner saying. That's what we're seeing. hospitalization rates are still picking up. So that is a bad sign. I see you. beds are more full than they have been. So that is also A. A bad sign and then the death count is a little plateaued right now, but as you know, it's a lagging indicator, and we're worried that that's going to take up as well as far as health commissioner, great customers have been promoted to the full-time, not acting anymore. He said this morning at the age of those infected. It would cove at nineteen is increasing in twenty to thirty nine year old group and I found this illustrious have he said this morning between June twenty-fourth June. And I'm GonNa County, had one thousand one hundred new cases now, are you? You're not able to save whether that's more testing or community spread. Are you able to say you can't say where they came from correct? Well I I think we can say that it is both more testing and community spread. He said that, and that's what we now. What he said though was that he can't identify like one specific events or one specific establishment. That we can blame for the multitude of increases about opening too soon, the media national media I got hammered coming on. The media is completely enveloped the idea that certain parts of America opened up too soon. You're on the ground here in Hamilton County. Do you think Hamilton County Open too soon? We'll Willie. Here's the thing about opening at some point. We need to open I mean you know and so as a matter of tiny. That's less the question. then. How do we open you? Are we gonNA wear masks and we open? Are we going socially distance? Are we gonNA, do what we need to do. And if we did all that, we'd be fine if we were reopening. The problem is that we've got people standing shoulder to shoulder in bars. No Maths on spreading disease and a lot of them are as attics, and so they don't even know they have it, so that been the issue. Look we. We have to figure out a way to live with the disease. Another that Lewis is all about it isn't. It isn't like going to bubble. Wrap go in the closet and don't go out because at crashes the economy on the hand. We can't have the hospitals over one. was there ever a champ? was there ever an opportunity here in Hamilton county to be overwhelmed whether it's UC Medical Christ Bethesda? Whatever it might be mercy. Have we ever been overwhelmed in the ICU or the hospitalization? So, there are three surge levels one is. Individual Hostile does it have capacities, and then the second is does the System Have Capacity Thirties convention center, and so we were creeping into that second level in the beginning, and there was some concern that we were going to need open convention center, so we were ready to go. We tend did set up to make sure we could get it done quickly, so it was good exercise. We're ready to go what we're seeing is that the hostile still have? Have Capacity Right. Now but the concern is that if these numbers continue to pick up like this more going to need more capacity system. Do you have a system you in Great Casterman? Assuming on June thirtieth seven days before that, there were eleven hundred cases. Is there some parameter that says because we have eleven hundred cases? We're GONNA have this many number of people going to the hospital as a ten percent five percent twenty percent. You CASTERMAN okay, we. We got eleven hundred cases in one week. That means X. numbers going to the hospital. Is there anything like that? No, and and you know part of this dynamic to is that younger people are testing positive right now and so sometimes they don't go to the hospital right and so the numbers are ticking up right now. So that's troubling in. We've got this thing called the factor where it. It says if you're testing this many people. How many are testing positive so? So that numbers around one right now, that's not a bad number. It was picking up higher than that a couple of weeks ago, and it was pretty alarming but now we're back down. This mass wearing is no joke. I mean it starting to have an impact already and I think within the next couple of weeks. We'll see that play out in our numbers. We'll start to drift down. At least that's the hope. Denise, Jerry Allen! Hamilton, county was moved from. It goes from yellow to orange to red to purple. One Hamilton County went to read. Did you get a heads up from the governor? Did, not. Wouldn't that be better if he had done that? I've talked to the governor since then. and Said Hey. You know I I know he's busy. I know he's looking at numbers and making decisions on the fly. But I did make a call and I talked to the governor instead of get. Yeah in the future, it would be helpful. They have a heads up. And he and he said he would do that and I believe so and we've talked. Talked a couple of times since then so you know we're working in partnership with the governor. I I just called him a couple of days ago and said I. Just want to make sure he knows what's happening in Hamilton, county and on the ground, as these colors start to shift around so and I told him I the majority of folks wearing. what we know about eighty percent compliance would go a long way to push the numbers down and so. I told him that and Anatoly that's what we're seeing. I would assume then that if Hamilton. County is going to go purple. which is all hell's breaking loose shutdown? You would be notified, so may I ask whether you notified about purple? I have not but it, but remember that purple does not mean shutdown. It means that we are at a more serious level. It's rather alarming level. It talks about folks staying home as much as possible, which is kind of similar to where we are in red by the way, but it does not say that businesses shutdown raking. Nobody wants to shut down businesses, and so it doesn't say that now could it in the future? Yeah, it could, but at this moment in time. That is not the case. Well as far as purple, there's a sense by business owners I can't speak for all of them, but the great majority ones that I speak with say, we cannot shut down again. No matter what it takes that the first hit was taken. We know what happened. Ot are which was the riots and the protests and the shut. I've been down to ot are. Four or five times in the last three or four weeks and it's sad, it's dead. What's happening? It's it's unfortunate when I walk around downtown Cincinnati. It's not what it was has to do a lot with the festivals being gone, and the taste being gone, and the reds being gone, and even when the red stars attendance do sense that Hamilton County economically. Back. Well I've heard the same thing that I'm business owners that say hey, man we. We did it once, and we weathered the storm, but we don't want to have to do this again. And some of them won't survive even with the small business loans, and all that the county and the feds are doing to try to shore them up. We know we don't want to quote. Business closed businesses again and so the idea is okay. The question is not you know. When are we going to close businesses? The question is what can we do? Do to keep them open. And that is do where mass wash your hands and stay away from each other I mean that will keep businesses open. Don't you ever sense I have the last month? Everywhere I want all. No one had a mask in fact if he had a mask on, people looked at you askance now. If you don't have a mask on, people, look at you, askance it used to be. It was a crime to wear a mask now. It's a crime not to wear masks, have you have you said emotionally? Things have changed. Well I. Don't know what circles you're traveling it. Yeah thanks. I think it has been. There's been a shift in in the acceptability of wearing a mask. I think people are starting to understand the seriousness of this, and and honestly the red on the math trending purple. It's this is serious and I think people are starting to say Oh, and they know the consequences. We just heard from the judges that jury trials have been canceled. It's. It's because people are spreading the disease, so they're all these ripple effects and people are like Oh all right we get it. We're going to wear the mass, and so they're starting to do it so yeah I think we should all try not to judge each other by the way but we should. All you know when we can wear masks. We'll be wearing which the? Mechanism you're in charge of Hamilton county if someone doesn't wear mask I'm looking at the comments. A great kesselman little transcript here and they've got numerous calls. How County Board of Health? But then there's no enforcement correct. Well, he will tell you that their approach is to try to get people to wear the masks and not have to. If you any kind of citations through local law enforcement, so you know they're educating the carry the mass with someone they go out. There's a complaint they go out. Educate I and tell them to put the mask on, and they do it. so and then I I think Greg Hope. Is that local law enforcement? If need be would be the second step there, but they haven't had that happen. To your knowledge, no one's been charged with a misdemeanor for not wearing a mask. I, don't think so. I I haven't heard that direct question to Greg, but I don't think so now. Denise Dream House the President. How many county board of County Commissioners. What do you think's going to happen at five thirty? I think from what I've heard and I'm starting to get a little bit of Intel I think. The governor is going to strongly appeal to the citizens of this state to wear masks that through every county. Not only the county's veteran read I mean that's what I'm hearing. He's going to do so. That's all I've got, but I I. Don't know I it. It's curious that he's doing it at five thirty on. Wednesday, it's such an odd time for him. so it whatever it is, it's it's serious. Also announce this morning. He'll take no questions. No well so I. I don't know, man I I'm I'm dying to know myself and I've got five thirty commitment, so I'm going to have to have somebody else. Pay Attention, but yeah I I think it's serious and I but I do think you know what we're seeing. What these red counties and what's happening throughout the country to try to avoid setting stuff down again? I think he's trying to really appeal to the folks in Ohio to put the mask on, so we can avoid some of these really dire consequences denise jury house. Thank you very much. We'll see what happens in about. Five and a half hours. We'll see what occurs. It's going to be dramatic because I think it might be. He wants to have the widest audience parts of possible at five thirty. You'll be on every TV and every radio station, the state simultaneously instead of a two o'clock, which tends not to be carried by most TV station, so we'll see what happens. You'll be paying attention. Then react to it on Thursday Friday. If if it's a shutdown, you'd to believe that you would notify ahead of time. I would hope so yes, but four o'clock is before five thirty so. Call might become later on. Look I don't have any guarantees. but I have not heard that today. Denise Jury House thank you very much for coming on the Cunningham. Show and good luck later this afternoon. Thank you. I Denise Treehouse who. President Obama County Board of County Commissioners. The lowest level is yellow and then the next level I guess up or down depending on your perspective is orange. Then the next level after that is red, and then the next level after that is purple and the governor said last week that Hamilton County is is trending toward purple. In fact, maybe there now. I have a missive here from the Butler county. The Board of Health in Butler county. And I WANNA share with you some of these numbers. Going back Let's go back May June and July from Butler. County Butler county by the ways read so the first number I'm going to give you. His may second June the third July. As far as Hospitalizations Butler county in May was eighty four residents and Butler county. Hospitalized Butler county June eighty four down to fifty one. July from fifty-one down to seventeen and Butler county, three hundred eighty five thousand residents in June. Total hospitalizations seventeen. And I would imagine majority are nursing home type individuals as far as. Death Count. In May in Butler County was twenty one. In June in Butler county, it was three. In July in Butler county so far one. So May June July, and we only have what halfway through July. The. Number July might be too, but in May in Butler. County twenty-one died of covert nineteen in June three and July one. So. Is Not a crisis. Tony Bender says yes. Every life is so valuable and that case quit growing tobacco in Kentucky and selling Bourbon because that also causes indirectly death. Similar numbers are in Clermont, county but Hamilton County is the bellwether and the largest increase which in the group of twenty to thirty nine is in that age group with eleven hundred cases. There's more positive test because there's more pop-up testing. GimMe your advice. What should the governor do at five thirty and well the peasants revolt if something happens, if the governor shuts down Ohio especially Southwest Ohio Clermont Butler and Hamilton County and then David Young about two weeks ago. About Warren County and he had similar statistics relative butler. County. There's no crisis, but the governor is paying attention to Dr Amy Acton who says chief. Medical Advisor, so let's continue later on schedule Bill Hemmer of Fox News and more at show me the reds by the way if the reds are eating home runs. WHO's throwing all those gopher balls? Now might be the reds pitching, which supposedly the best part, but nonetheless it. We'll see what happens. Bill Cunningham newsradio seven hundred w automobile. Amateur, not get into this five thirty somewhat momentous. We're going to find out whether. The so called Red States have gone to purple. And going to purple as Denise did didn't Denise Jerry? House said doesn't necessarily mean everything is shutdown again. It means that it's available to be shut down. It's up. We're Kinda. Sit there with their hat in her hands. Waiting to hear at five thirty, whether alive is going to be putting a paper bag and shuffled all again or not and I. Do not know I do not have knowledge specifically about what's going to happen i. have expectations and hopes the governor is going to give a raw speech and saying okay now now you got to be serious about mask-wearing, but I do not know specifically what he's going to do. But I do know that the small business owners of which I'm aware are shuddering with the possibility of possibly being shut down once again from which they cannot recover. And if you're a innocent person, of course, everyone in jails, innocent of course sitting in present waiting for your jury trial and Judge Kubicki under the leadership of the Supreme Court cannot hold jury trials, and you were sitting there since March in prison. It's been what four five months February waiting and waiting say you were arrested in January. Normally the jury trial would be within three to six months, and now we're well into July because jurors not showing up. If you receive a jury subpoenaed a common. Do Your civic duty. you large numbers of jurors who tend to be older African American and white males and female simply don't want to sit in a jury box. They're not gonNA, do it. So what do you do? At some point in the future, whether it's a year or two years, and I'm not blaming Judge Kubicki at all because he's doing what he has to do. At some point, it's going to be finding some federal courts that the right to a speedy trial was denied the constitution and the Constitution doesn't say you have the right to a trial unless covert nineteen pairs, in which case all your rights go out. The window doesn't work that way. And I'm looking at these numbers as I did with Denise Tree, House and I read the numbers. I'm going to share with you. The numbers from Butler County. Butler county is also in red. And I think Jones probably pissed off the governor. Richard K Jones by saying you know. I'm not wearing a mask and that you're native them off and match diamond believes that I've pissed off the governor to but I don't think I. Have I texted with him and I'm gotten a response from this morning stacks, but he responded the one I sent him sent him last week, but here is Butler county once again. Looks to me not to be in a crisis. Let's go over the last two months. which is the whole month of June and we're half July. The in the month of June. There has been hospitalizations in the whole month of June in Butler county fifty one. The first seventeen days of July, I'm sorry. The first fifteen days of July which is through today there's been seventeen, so hospitalizations went from fifty one. To Seventeen. And as far as deaths and went from three and the month of June. Two one so far July, now. If you're that one person, it's like a total deal, but for the general population of Butler county, three hundred and eighty five thousand residents to have three deaths in the whole month. June, then so far one in the month of July is not. Is Not serious and the month of May there were one deaths and Butler county in the month of May twenty, one. Then went to three in June and one July. Is that a crisis. Is that why they went from from yellow to orange to read and maybe five thirty, two purple on those numbers I certainly think not. And when I speak to the leaders of hospitals, they are not overwhelmed. No one is thinking about you know what we got to use. The Duke Energy Center again which is largely unoccupied because no one's traveling. It's available at sitting right there. In fact, there's some efforts by Mike Morowski and others in the school board to use the Duke. Energy Center as a classroom is huge space one. I'll do that. But. Everywhere I look I. Don't see that I see a problem I see a pandemic. There's a pandemic in the nursing homes, but in the general population there is not a pandemic so I hope that Mike Dewine at five thirty gives another stern warning saying that we've got to wear masks. I'm going to take your calls. This is your show, not mine. And we got a bill on his cell and Pete, and then Dan by the way in about twenty minutes. We have my good buddy. Bill Hammer will be here. A Fox News about once a month. I check in with Bill Hammer plus I have a call into Eric. Trump is gonNA join us. I think the next week or ten days I want to wait to this thing kind of plays out to good a conclusion. But he's coming on at one zero five today and right now. New York state I think a day, I. Think on Monday or Tuesday of this week heads zero deaths in the empire state zero deaths in the state of New, York this thing raged like an inferno for three or four weeks, then collapsed died. Right now is raging like an inferno. They tell us in Florida Texas and Arizona I hasten to add let me put my hand up the back of the room teacher. If you take all of the Cova deaths in Florida which is the same size as new. York State? Florida Texas, which is ten million more people and then Arizona together all three together. Today is less than one third of New York, state. So I know I, know what I'm telling you is that out of the realm of possibility that there's height for this thing well beyond the reality. And the State of California. They have approximately seven million students in the state of California. And of course California as the yesterday news shut it down again. You know how many students have died. And the state of California students, the answer is. Zero the same number and Ohio there might be wanting Kentucky. And so if students are not at risk. And if transmission from children or young adults to adults is very rare, and we have evidence for that, there is proof of that. Why are schools shutting down because teachers are afraid, are you kidding me? Schools exist for the students. That's why they exist La. County how about this one Los Angeles County School Teacher's Union. They will not go back to work until. There is a moratorium on funding Private Schools Charter schools. La County. Teachers are not go back to school until the police are defunding. The Teacher's Union says and still there's an increase taxes on the wealthy. And California. They won't go back to school to teach. They also demand implementing Medicare for all, or they won't go back to the classroom and to pass the Heroes Act, which allocates an additional one hundred, sixteen billion in federal education to fund states including their Teacher's Union. What does that have to do with kids being healthy and school, the answer is nothing it feeds the notion. This is not about health. It's not about covert nineteen. It's about winning a socialistic Marxist political agenda, and do you find it delicious that those who painted the black lives matter mural in front of city hall are angry that someone defaced and vandalized there mural. When so many of the followers have defaced? Large parts of Cincinnati for weeks. What's good for? The goose is good for the Gander. Now. Whoever did that should be arrested wherever that person is that they can find the guy who threw the red paint on the mural arrests that guy. But what about the I know? This is a strange concept, but we have traffic laws. From, the state of Ohio. That have to have painted. White Lines. On Street so you know what line to travel you're in. If you travel that way I've done. There's no white lines. And in fact, regularly, we have rules and laws that say nobody can march around public streets without getting a permit ahead of time, so the streets are properly shut down. All the time and Cincinnati much less New York. There's hundreds of individuals protesting. Marching and city streets, which is illegal up and down Queen City Avenue up and down Koran Avenue up and down main street. You can't do that. It's illegal. It's called criminal trespass me and five. Fifty of my closest friends can't say. What we shut down Vine Street. We're GONNA shut down. You got to get a permit. There's a law and if anyone else walking in the streets. which are public thoroughfares violating the law? What would happen? It'd be arrested or at least cited saying you can't do that, but if the causes justified by the mainstream media and the Democratic leadership, they'll let you do anything a damn well. Pleased until you vandalize something of theirs, then all hell breaks loose. Are you kidding me about one set of rules for everybody? I know that's an novel concept I want one set of rules, no matter your color or your cause. There's one set of rules under the rule of law. We all have to follow. Saint Patrick's Day parade was canceled, but I would imagine if those in charge of the Saint Patrick's Day parade on March seventeenth. Every you know what we're going to determine for ourselves, which treats are going to be shut down. Businesses are going to be shut down. We're not going to tell you the time what we're GONNA. Do we'RE GOING TO MARCH DOWN WHATEVER STREET PICK? That's called chaos? How come there's one set of rules for the radical left another set of rules for the rest of us. Los Angeles County where they had riots in La Six Jewish synagogues were trashed and defaced including statue of the blessed virgin. Mary was desecrated. Media doesn't cover it no big deal. But throw red paint on a black lives matter mural. Oh my God, they're defacing and vandalizing our property. Are you kidding me? Look at this well. What does that movement been doing for the past seven or eight years? Including advocating the murder of police are we want dead cops when we want them now? And when those chance happened in Dallas five and uniform cops were gunned down to more in Baton Rouge and the leaders of that group met in the White House with Barack. Hussein Obama an immediate said. Isn't it great? We're coming together as one I want one set of rules that apply to everybody male female black white. WHATEVER THE HELL IT IS! These are the rules, but the rules are. You can't paint murals on city streets, and if city council gives you permission to do it. Their state law that says has got to be those white lines there. They don't exist anymore. Well, let's I've asked Cranleigh. I've asked other leaders. How how come? This happens that large groups of people shut down city streets whatever they want. Well. We. Well, you know we just don't know what to do. We have one set of rules. Follow the rules. Don't like the rules. Change the leadership who enact the roles and change the rules. But it is absurd. And I'M GONNA. Take your calls here in a minute I'm babbling incessantly. I'M GONNA. Take your calls. Children in school are not at risk of catching at nineteen. The science is clear so for those who complain about conservatives don't care about science. How about that rule? No schoolchild, and the state of Ohio started covert nineteen. Our students at risk, Matt's time and He Says No, that's good. How about their parents well guess what and their grandparents let old folks protect themselves. Let the kids go back to school, but the science is clear. There's little or no transmission from the children to the parents and the grandparents. The science is clear. Do you believe in science or not well? If you believe in science, put the kids back in school. Take the risk. Of something bad happening. Every time I drive my car. There's a risk WANNA play golf in this clouds lightning. There's a risk when you skydive. There's a risk get into the boat. There's a risk from Hollywood actress gets a pontoon boat goes out with their five year old and something happened and she drowns. There's a risk there's a risk when I go to point blank to shoot my three eighty six hour. There's a risk when you smoke cigarettes or cigars or a pipe or smoke marijuana guess what was a risk cigarettes and one of the most disingenuous characters in the world. Anti Bashir I. Love Kentucky my state. It lives and dies off tobacco and booze. If you would take tobacco and booze and the death every year caused by that at dwarfs, what's happening with covert nineteen? So every time when he cries, these crocodile tears about trying to save lives, then make tobacco products illegal. Get rid of them five hundred thousand die, not fewer than the seasonal flu in Kentucky. It's a large number beer wine. Booze Tequila Margaritas man that causes lots of problems, but see he's driving the bus because his approval ratings are high, not because his policies work. He really pisses me off. Does continue. And, masks? Every. Time I have Marie. Thompson, from the eighteen fifty one constitutional rights group in Ohio every time it goes to court against governor dewine he wins. And so I don't know what to say if wearing a mask which I do means that less people get sick, and we can open up the schools like tell me the penance I have to pay and I'll pay it. I'll wear the damn mask now I have evidence and proof that masks right hair or according to the American metal Medical Association here it is right here. Here's. How about this one listen up match. Diamond New England Journal of Medicine. Under may twenty first twenty, twenty. About. Seven weeks ago, quote, we know that wearing a mask outside healthcare facilities offer little, if any protection from infection, public health authorities to find a significant exposure to cove nineteen as face to face contact within six feet with a patient with symptomatic covert nineteen that a sustained for at least a few minutes, and some say more than ten minutes or even thirty minutes, the chance of catching covid nineteen from passing interaction in a public space is therefore minimal, if not non-existent quote, in many cases, the desire for widespread masking is a reflective reaction to anxiety over the pandemic. That's the New England, Journal of Medicine seven weeks ago, so they're kind of saying you know snicker. Wear a mask because that sends forth the idea that you will submit to authorities submit to the governor submit to the mayor, and as a consequence. You're cool. Reminds me story that rocky boy relates about submarine irs, who, in the middle of the ocean jump into the ocean, and they have somebody with an M. sixteen standing there ready to shoot the sharks. Sharks do not circle and then eat their lunch. What do is come up strictly from the bottom? So one of the sailors got out and said hey, how many sharks have you shot? The past twenty years and the old guy says none it makes you feel better if I stand here. So what that means is the mask according to medical authorities makes you feel better. You're doing something. Outside of a medical setting, in which you have to handle the mask correctly and have the right woven fabric, you have to wear them in a certain way. They must be washed or prepared so many other times. It's a placebo that makes you feel as if you're doing something. which is likely on productive, but it submits the masses to rules, and therefore it's a good thing. How screwed up alright. So Mike Dewine I. Don't know what he's going to do and five thirty today. When makes me think he's GonNa Crack Down One argument is why is he doing at five thirty instead of two o'clock? And why is he taking? No questions from people like Jack Windsor. The reason might be because at five thirty. He knows that every TV and every radio is going to be tuned into him. And so, we can give one message one time. And if it is crackdown, masked must be worn in every county and the red counties go to purple. I think he would take questions on the other hand. He might see okay. Pull Joe Biden this one. I'm going to say with a teleprompter I'm walking offstage to hell with it. But either way. Schools must continue. Business Must Continue. Where this isn't a nuclear explosion or an invasion, red dawn part three from the north, Koreans, the red Chinese communists invading Minnesota this isn't the case. Because once again, one hundredth of one percent of ohioans and the general population have died a covert nineteen and the Great State of Kentucky under one hundredth of one percent of Kentucky Inns and the general population have died covert nineteen under one hundredth of one percent, and that's after six months of this raging infection, so let's continue. Coming up later, WE'LL BE BILL HAMMER A fox. News and more flying becomes available, five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, thousand, as I, said before I'm going to quit babbling at some point and take your calls. We Have Pete and PAT and todd and bill and many others. And if align becomes five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, thousand, especially like the pre comments bill. The CDC warns of a flu season Combo so they're going to report numbers of the flu, which is thirty to fifty thousand deaths a year long with covert, and put them all together to make you think things are even worse than they are. Remember remember they submariner with the M. Sixteen, guarding the swimming sailors against those sharks makes them feel good. On seven hundred that you out. With Foreman Bay. A good woman. I'll make an older plus. We. WanNa be off putting. Your. Bad. Oh Billy Cunningham Bill Hammer go hammer will be here in about one hour. To five or so so till the end your calls, and so much more at five thirty. The governor will speak Eddie in the Rocco. Being about three zero five eddy may bring more facts and statistics like many others. The Rock and I deal with facts and not hyperbole us now we have villain peyton patent. Todd of line becomes available which it never does. Five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand pounds, seven, hundred eighteen. And artists to upgrade the black lives matter mural wants the city, of Cincinnati, turn the section of. Straight in front of City Hall Plum. Into a pedestrian only area. and. They're angry that someone would deface or vandalize their property. Let's go to bill cell phone bill on a cellphone. Welcome to the bill. Cunningham show bill. Go ahead. Bill, how are you? I'm mark I I got a question. I just wanted to see your opinion. You know the Center for Disease Control. That Robert Grid saone. Okay now for the last three days on all three networks, all all of them He's been saying Oh. Let's watch out for the flu season. When that comes, it's really going to be bad and we don't know what to expect in. You know it doom and gloom and fearmongering. Okay, now everybody social distancing, and this isn't GonNa go away. They're not gonNA. Stop social distancing unless Biden gets elected, but you know what I'm saying. They're not gonNA. Stop doing that. They're not gonNA stop. Wearing masks are doing the right thing house. Is this flu season going to be so bad? You would think would come out and he'd say you know since we're doing all these things, right? The flu season shouldn't be so bad in fact bill. We've been hearing that for the last few weeks that because we're washing hands and antiseptic, and we're staying apart from each other, wearing a mask and take a shower every through four minutes. They're telling us that infections are going to be much lower because flu is transmitted the same way as covert nineteen as a consequence to flu season should be great, correct not. Manatt, according to those who want to scare the crap out of you and me. I think it's working for some of these people it just I just don't understand it. I was thinking about it, and after he made those comments and I'm thinking. Everybody's WHA. We're washing our hands one. We ever had in our whole lives. kind of a Germaphobe anyway, but I probably wash my hands and put on Alcohol About Twenty to thirty times a day, and then they're trying to say just flew things going to be worse than Govan I just don't understand and the reason is. They combined the flu numbers with the covert numbers and every year. There's thirty to fifty thousand Americans who die of the seasonal flu every year, which doesn't cause a shutdown of anything, so if you combine the flu numbers with the covert nineteen numbers, the numbers, even greater providing more excuses to take away our freedom. Thing that aggravates me. The most is him doing an all these people on the news anymore fear mongering. Kindy. Say something good. No No, no, no please, please. PLACE COME ON, man! Come on. He's on TV. He's getting paid. He's GonNa get a big deal later. On is going to write a book bound. She's going to write a book to get a big deal. These guys these guys are acting as if it's like when PG sit and fell, says Mike. Campaign for marriage is not about me. It's about you. I'm going to take care of you. The best campaign slogan Outta be Allsteel less than the rest at somebody would say vote for me and my friends and family, and I'll still less than the rest. That would work better than this isn't about me. It's about you. Well I. Appreciate you taking my call Bell. You're the man, thank you. Let's go to Pat. Todd. Many others paid on a cellphone paid me a full report. The COTTINGHAM. Thank you very much for taking my call listen. These numbers can't be correct as far as overall. Deaths and the the positive cases I know six seven individuals that are very smart. They're in the medical field in four different states, they all say the same thing that they're classifying positive cases with other other cases. You've mentioned it yourself on your radio program about a toy. Being right today joins floyd covert nineteen positive. Correct, so what you need to do is get some professional on. Expose the real real numbers on positive cases and Really gotta go can't shut a state like the state of West, Virginia, which I'm traveling right now. I think the last. The latest numbers were seventy, five, complete or total debt in the. How why would you shut? The entire economy down put one. Over less than a hundred deaths and I don't know the numbers you could check that. The last I checked it with around seventy five. I'll potted up here in a moment, but the fact of the matter is the government. The Democrats to medical industry one have as much fear as possible. It takes away choices that you have in your life, and so if your credit if we were really in a crisis such as red dawn the North Koreans Orlando and we had a nuclear bomb. Go off and we have something. If we had like the Spanish flu, bother. We can I say Spanish anymore. Spanish flu of one hundred years ago, we'd have about two and a half million dead Americans and twenty million hospital, so if we had that level of crises. Well what I gotTa do, but when the death rate in Ohio for those in the general population is under one hundred of one percent one in Kentucky. It's under one hundredth of one. percent is a time to panic. According to them yes. Yes, it is time to panic and and I know at five thirty. I fear that Mike. Dewine is going to crack down on the state again. I don't think he's going to do it, but I fear at five thirty. He's going to say okay if you're red purple, but how's it possible that a county like Butler county can be purple when an entire month of July so far halfway through it. They've had one death of covert nineteen and Butler county with three, hundred, eighty, five thousand, and that person was seventy nine years old. And the Colbert actually caused the death. Well, they you die with covert, not because of COVID. Everyone that goes to the hospital for anything any reason it's going to be tested now for covert nineteen, so of course infection rates going to be higher, but the transmission rates are very low, and the kids are not at not an impact, seventy five percent of teachers or data forty five years old. They're not at risk, either so what? Why don't you want to teach? One other thing bill. Out of the six professionals I know. Furlough how could you have a countrywide pay are pandemic and your furloughing trauma nurses, respiratory nurses and an APP and what was happening. How can how can we have pandemic annual letting go of medical personnel or you're? You're following. Can? Both cannot be true. I wasn't around one, thousand, nine, hundred, nineteen, but I would imagine when the Spanish flu hit, and there there were something the range of fifteen thousand Hamilton County. Residents were were dead. I would think the hospitals in nineteen nineteen. We're overwhelmed for months. They weren't laying people off because they had no business both cannot be true either. They cleared out the hospitals when there was no reason. Reason to do so. That crashed a lot of the economics of the hospitals, or there's not much pandemic going on at all, both cannot be true. You can't have pandemic going on with large numbers of people being laid off in the hospital says simply can't be true, and by the way I got West Virginia. Let me see here. West Virginia has a total from February the fifteenth of ninety seven deaths. Economy for how many people died on the highways in the state in the same state more, but here's another number I bet a West Virginia, the tenure seasonal flu average of death in West Virginia every year, the average for the last ten years, every year is three hundred and three. That's from the seasonal flu there in forty three. West Virginia has had ninety seven covert nineteen. Now at by the way the deaths per one, hundred thousand I bought this number, the deaths per one hundred thousand and west. Virginia is five and of the five three were in nursing homes, so that means in the general population in west, Virginia to of every one hundred thousand. Is that crisis? Well enough to kill economy now explained to me, the cure was worse than the disease in Kentucky and the Typical Year in Kentucky seven hundred and seven Kentucky Inns die of the seasonal flu so far with this six, hundred and thirty, five less have died a covert nineteen than the seasonal flu, and that's true in most states. I think it was Hamilton County and Butler county lots more people overdose. Professional setting all the numbers were I'm sure that I don't i. don't see them blocking not sales, but they didn't. They didn't have a national guard out there, looking for syringes and or stopping the flow of the Druk Find. It somewhat ironic and delicious. That black lives matters complaining about the facing their property. Do, you talk. Just, a little bit I'm thinking okay, did anyone black lives matter to face anyone else's property? Is Am I miss something I, mean I'm not saying it's justified. It is not justified and the person that had that red paint on the mural in front of city hall. If they can find that person, they should be prosecuted for what something I don't know what it is but the. For a better yeah. I I. Don't know I'm watching this story last night on Channel Nine nine stands for news something and these people are outraged that someone would damage their property. Let's continuous. Go to pat on cell phone by the way after two o'clock today is, is rocky Boardman's good friend. Bill Hammer a Fox News. Let's continue Pat, and a flying becomes available, five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, thousand. We have Pat Todd and then Robin. Patent Pat on the cellphone. Welcome to the Bill Cunningham show and thank you for your patience. Willie I listen to you since back in the eighties with peanuts. North I saw love. Your mom I missed the call. Your mom and sure you miss your mom like I missed mine. Let me tell you. Hold on, let me tell the story last night on Youtube I often going youtube and I watched if I haven't caught something during the day I'm on Youtube so I'm watching this thing Bruce, springsteen and these street band there in London and they're playing a song, which is dancing in the dark, and I love that song and Bruce springsteen walked off stage while they're still playing at the end. And he brought his mother on stage and Bruce Springsteen. Mother looked exactly like my mother. I saw that and I had a I had a tear in my eye, and she died at the age of eighty nine. A great person would not even consider not working or not. Taking responsibilities are not praying the rosary every. Not Going to mass, not going to vespers often say to mom mom. Why are you GonNa Confession and she? Said you have no idea what. I'm doing billy and I. I don't know what you're going to confession, but she lived her life, and she would never take a wonder and I watch Bruce springsteen bring his mother. If someone got time to Youtube. Bruce Springsteen Spain Bruce springsteen dancing in the dark at ten London about eight years ago, and he brought his mother on stage, and she looked like my mom and I had a tear in my eye. You go ahead your comment. Well. I love my mom, too, and she was really good to me, but anyways I think you're going to Lord. Work Right now putting the statistics out I mean I. It's facts, and let's put some hard into this. He's people aren't thinking, but on the other hand. Do I need to flip over to the Democratic Party I think he's trying to destroy the trumpster. I think he's out now doing it. He didn't go up there when pence was Lordstown. He stiff him and let the day before, so everybody else said no it. Not Supporting Man I think Mike was busy. You know here in a scheduling conflict, but I'll give you if you watch the media past week, they cover the states that have Republican governors disproportionately states that have blue governors if I would take them looking at the recent statistics. Let. Let's take. The State of Arizona Arizona has a total of two thousand four hundred deaths I'm looking at the state of Texas, and the state of. Florida if you take Florida, Texas and Arizona together all three together there one third of the state of New York. So you would. You would think with that kind of but watching the media every time I looked to my left, all hell's breaking loose in the state of Florida and Florida's had four thousand five hundred deaths, four, thousand, five, hundred, which is. Twenty one per one hundred thousand on the. Come to us. No question, no question but New York has seventeen hundred per one, hundred, thousand and Florida as I said has twenty one and of the twenty one. That's one eighth of the death rate one eighth of the number of died in new. York state now the media compliments. New York and they criticize Florida which has a problem, but it'll be okay. We're GONNA. Get through. This is not the end of the world. Pat, we're going to be okay. I believe that I'm just tired of people living in fear. You know they're all paranoid fear. Strikes deepen our the paranoid. It's a wonderful country. I'm sixty two years old at heart problem I still. Don't wear a mask up until forced us to and I. Really don't like to wear. I. Figure if the Good Lord, check me out here. It's time to go. How about this one Texas Texas? Says ten million more people than new. York Texas has about thirty million. New York has twenty. Now Texas has deaths per one hundred thousand is. Per One hundred thousand New York is seventeen hundred so now if we're gonNA, cover a state out of control, I might cover the state of New York and New Jersey New York New Jersey together has about fifty thousand deaths of one, hundred, thirty, five or in two states. Thousand now, if talking about numbers, there are numbers ideal with reality, one hundred thirty one percent of, and if I'm one of the ones of the one hundred of one percent. If it happens, it happens I mean. Skydiving driving a car smoking a cigarette. Shooting down to kill it whatever it might be eating a great steak from Jeff Ruby's goes down the wrong way. There are risks in life that happens and what I've seen is. The reaction of this is not proportional to the damage is what I'm saying. Thank you for your call. Let's continue. Coming up we're going to do a legitimate students report. Segment and Rachel after two o'clock is rocky Boymans. Good friend, go, Hammer. Fox News after two thirty five will be me and. After three o'clock is Eddie and then the rock would never stop. We simply continue and at five thirty is Mike Devine's address to the state. which has never happened before? As far as addressing the state at five thirty, so every TV and radio station and the Buckeye state will listen simultaneously as role Andy Bashir Kentucky because whatever does, but shares a little puppy dog that follows, but share is a clown. Let's continue with more. Bill Cunningham newsradio seven hundred w out of you. I have decided in twenty to run for president. numskull broadcasting. Mankind Yay may be out. He announced this morning. Last Long. At hold it off. Higher banks is the new host dancing with the stars, so Connie's not going to run for president, but he's going to be on that show. Maybe I? Don't know I'm not sure how come. He's not running for president. What happened well? He discovered he couldn't get on. Get on any ballots. It's a little bit late on. In California New York he missed the deadline to get on the ballot, so you Kinda gotTa have at least one of those to win the Electoral College. His campaign. Jay West why not I just got the bumper sticker Kanye for twenty twenty. My car now got scratched it off. You know not sent you about five up. I love to get him on the ballot like an Ohio. Pennsylvania Wisconsin and Michigan that'd be perfect. Now do you find it delicious, somewhat Rachel that black lives matters complaining about facing their property and maybe vandalism. Is that just? I'm thinking about what's been happening recently. I guess there were there was no vandalism or bricks through windows and screaming. How now that went on? Did it recently with him? But now that happens to them now it's a major problem. Well what are we went dead cops when we want them now than five cops gets assassinated in Dallas Oh. Know I just want to focus on the real issues Willie. What are they? Chicago is had a problem for quite a while now. Getting people to actually respond to the census. So there mayor up! There is decided to implement a new thing and I hope we get one here to. Calling it the census. Cowboy! The Naked Cowboy Jeff, Brantley. He's GonNa. Go around now. This is an actual man on a horse, a man on a horse as riding through ten neighborhoods that have failed to respond to the census. According to Lori lightfoot. So, he is going to be riding through these ten neighborhoods in Chicago on horseback. Now there's no word yet. It won't be for long. Come off. There's no word if he is packing or if he has a police escort. But yes, here's a man riding through the streets of Chicago. Song right here at the music. Selections. Actually see video of Lori. Introducing the Census Cowboy. Song Chicago the other day on your on your. In your. Car Right. God bless America. I'm not sure the horse would be not a lot of horses on the side of Chicago or alive. It might not be long ride. Cowboy wouldn't be alive long. Thank you about the Cowboy Jeff. Brantley! What? That's my. It might be Jeff Brantley. He's not really doing too much right now. Until next Friday about the census takers on the south side of Chicago. Hello anyone home trawl phonebook. Shooters Gal guy on a horse. Well, I liked it. This was the you know the thing that was top of mind for her in Chicago Lori lightfoot. I call her Lori. lightheaded lightheadedness like she doesn't have any problems. She wants a horse to roll around south side. This is really happening. This is. Yes I have the video of her ear juicing this guy on your blog. She even put on her own cowboy hat. Chateau you're making this up. You know this is real. This is a real life thing. Cranley on the line. Let's go. We Need A. We need a guy running around on a horse. They got rid of the police horses they were. Right, they defended the police. That's right, but does BLM. Complain About Vandalism Right? Someone vandalized. Let's see they got live. Mike, Downtown. That I get that they were screaming about somebody the allies my property. Anybody do that. Police. Get over here quickly, so many vandalized my property. Segman, give me some sports will yeah. The stooge reporters proud service of local tempstar heating and air conditioning dealers. Ten saw quality. You can feel a beautiful Western hills go Durban heating cooling at five, nine, hundred, eighty, four, forty, nine, or go to Durban Cooling Dot Com. About this reds and Derek Dietrich to the forty man roster. That's good. That's a good plan. Twenty twos in. You are complaining. The other day we'll about nine home runs and two scrimmages, including six on Monday, who is Lee at the ranch locked it down. Sunny Gray with four scoreless innings four KS David, carpenter. A non roster, inviting four KS and two scoreless innings. When when you talk about the home runs, who was given up all these bombs? It wasn't a starters I. Don't think it was the it was the guys afterwards. Romano and glaciation those guys. Repeating itself to get getting it out of their system now before next Friday. That theory. System and you could just tell. The well. Highway Hot Stove League tonight at six o five who has given up those bombs, reds pitchers, right you complementing the hitters but I would assume the pitchers is the strongest part of this ballclub, and they're giving up eight bombs and one game, Yoshio. PUIG is going to the Atlanta braves. About your friend Yossi Yelp Week. One year deal. Yes look doesn't look like the bengals. Wide Receiver Aj Green and team are gonNA. Come to terms today, alarm term deal. They're gonNA slack the franchise tag on him for about eighteen bill and played in two years. Right far as I know, so he's made like the last two years like but thirty five million dollars. Not Playing got to get back to you know. To get in on that. GIG. The Green Bay packers have announced. The legendary Green Bay packers of announced no fans will be in attendance at the twenty twenty training camp when practices open up to Chrysler now you wait and see now. That'll be an NFL avalanche air. No fans training camp. For the Packers Bengals? It doesn't matter fans. Don't go anyway. I feel like we've been preparing for this for a couple of years anyway. We know how to play football in the stadium with their a few people. We liked that so. NFL, the bengals. We are actually advantaged by this situation. On my blog leading the way exactly, so you're telling me on. My blog is the mayor of Chicago with a cowboy out on discussing cowboy rolling around, south, southcenter, south side of Chicago and it's not like a fake cowboy. Tone people to sign up for the. Actual human being on a horse in a cowboy hat, riding through ten neighborhoods of Chicago that have not adequately okay, does he census? Does you look like Matt, Dillon? Now's you look like The Lone Ranger Fastest No! No no I assume he's african-american. Yeah, I couldn't imagine. A white guy will six shooters. You get out of. Sure that that's going to help him being the one guy on a horse riding through Chicago trigger. I oh silver I. Don't know what way I've seen it all now. That's all I can say anything else on the blog Yeah, the Osborne families coming back to TV they are actually going to have a new series on the travel channel called. The osbournes want to believe so Jack Osbourne. He already has a show on travel channel called portals to hell. They've come here. They've been bobby Mackie's portals to hell. Yes, where he does. You know investigations short, but now Sharon and Ozzy or getting in on the paranoid. Yeah. Ozzy's doing great right now. Yeah, yeah, he's doing good a he is quarantined though he is not leaving his house, because obviously, these had some medical issues in the past year, not leaving the house, but he's enjoying being around. Family right now doesn't get to see them as much as he used to, so yes, yes. Daytime talk show I think she does she does. have photos of Johnny Depp with ice cream melting on him that. Look in their amber heard took. She wanted to embarrass him. She wanted to show him how pathetic he was, so she took the photos and we have the. He shed his lost three hundred and sixty five million dollars, seven, hundred, fifty I'm sorry, seven, hundred, million seven fifty. Yes, whereas it, so you know where it is! WHO said this? Johnny Depp said he's lost a three quarters of a billion dollars. He's lost it. Yeah, that was mismanagement by his business partner, which means mismanagement in this case actually means his business partner stolen. There's an investigation on that and then one hundred million of it is in back taxes because the business manager decide. We don't need to pay taxes. We're good and he decided to do that for seventeen years. Don. There's a guy you want as a business manager right there day U. N. done. Speaking of done we're is done. Down Texas I apologized to him once. Yes, you did. Rachel. Ten years ago. Yeah Adam Don allegedly I said he treated the football like a monkey with a football because he was trying to have a beer or something I implied that he was drinking beer during the game so I got a word from the reds clubhouse. As never something you WanNa be on the receiving end of said. I talked to Rhino. He said you better go apologize, which is the last time I apologized? I went down there hat in hand so rare. You know exactly what the incident was. It was right there in the corner corner, and he's and stow, set it up and get them over there I walked. This guy was used you know. I know Willie, I know I said Adam. I have mentioned before I'm Bill Cunningham. He said something like I. Know who you are, and I, said look. If I said something that offended. You referenced the fact. You're drinking beer during the game on, apologize and and I I won't do it again. He said something that was somewhat implied and walked away. And I said that's okay. I did my part. That's it. That was the last time I apologize. After take your lumps. One such case I wanted to do it in a public arena so. So yeah, you know he could do what he's gotTa do. But I got witnesses I would would've sued his asked to if he touched me. That's a different story. Speaking of that I talked to chuck I talked to judge. Kubicki today. They have banned all jury trials ambling county till further notice. So, let's say you're sitting in the Justice Center and let's say you might be innocent. which a few are! And you're arrested like in January February for your trial in March or April. Didn't happen. They delay it by Supreme Court order until the end of June now it's delayed again until further notice. Who some federal judge in the future is going to say, you know what that is unconstitutional release them all. Like happens in Los Angeles and New York City on a regular basis from rikers island so sag. That is not maybe we could have that guy. We could have a guy on a horse. Right around Cincinnati doing them up. Are you sure about this guy on a Horse Horse Census Cowboy? Is GonNa, pay attention to him. They think this clown or circus act or something well when you consider I think like thirty. Some people were shot over the weekend. In Chicago we're worried about the census cowboy getting every census build out. She going to have cowboy outfit honored. He's not going to be like the naked cowboy with just a pair of Hanes. All the cowboy garb does he have a gun? He should to. Where he's. Maybe. Maybe you know a flak vest maybe I. Don't know rather be Rachel on the worst parts of Detroit or the worst parts of Chicago. Whereas parts of Chicago that's better to be there. It's not Beirut. Yeah Yeah. You can talk your way out of the worst parts of Chicago Trust me. I've had to do it a couple times few wrong wrong turns though I wanted to see some historical thing that was really cool in Chicago and turns out to not be the kind of place. You want to be Detroit those different animal. Yeah, that's that's totally different. Want to know it's a it's. It's not. They route? You can't talk your way out bad parts of Detroit. Anything else by the way I have the stats from Butler county. Now Butler county, is what a Red County. Sheriff Jones. That's correct and pickle pickle ball, so the Butler County health commissioners sent me the recent stats. Okay near they are. This is why there's a crisis in Butler, county. And I'll go over I'll give you. A May June and July. Made in the month of May. There were eighty four hospitalizations. And the month of June, there were fifty one. So we go from eighty four to fifty one so far halfway through July at seventeen. So eighty four to fifty one to seventeen. What directions out headed? Downward. How about debts? Deaths Rachel and Butler County always I wanNA brighten up my Monday afternoon with death. Talk of death may may twenty one deaths. June. Three. First fifteen days of July one. Now, what direction is headed? Sounds like a crisis. Are we going to beep? Are we going to go to? The was the purple? Purple! Announcement is that what's happening at five thirty I. Can't say. I think he's going to I think. He's going to talk to the people he's not going to. You think he's GonNa show. What percentage do you thing that's time it says you gotTA. Tell me down shutting it down. That's GonNa Palsy. Know what his stern warnings have done wonders so far over the last couple of months Daddy's coming home cycling or shows up. Daddy is now in the room. Daddy's here so he wants to be daddy and not, Mommy. And we'll see what happens. Five, thirty, five, thirty, three, and a half hours away. Baby Rachel thank you. I'M GONNA. Check that out myself on my blog because I find it hard to believe it's true but I. Trust you. Lori lightheadedness in a cowboy hat, sending cowboys under the south side of Chicago. That's Indian territory. Get me out of the stooge report will the owner of a beautiful day here in the tri-state and again hot. And good, luck to the Cowboy in Chicago to get people to sign up for the census. If it was a negative before he'll be naked, way makes it right through that town. We leave you with the immortal words of the stew report. Thank Mr Cunningham. Whereas Brian Hamrick. I got a call that guy. He's hilarious downtown somewhere. Thanks again, Mr Cunningham. Coming up in about congratulations, to Tommy Tub reveal the new senator. Alabama how about roll tide so this? Luke fickle now run for Ohio Governor. Anybody can win an urban Meyer Kanye. West was my candidate and now he's gone. Such a chance Senator Tub reveal. It couldn't coach football maybe can be competent in the Senate. He lost the county of in Tuscaloosa will. Be broke down the state. He Lost Tuscaloosa in the county. There wonder why. Roll tide hit that again time. Get A job. At twenty around on. This morning on. WHO said I want more people to work as the L.. He's yelling at UC. Get A job. Go to hell. That's my man right there. He lived by the way Hidden Valley. Get A job. The classic was am on bought. The cubs get him on his cellphone number I'd love to call him ask Moe he's got them all most voter I think liked him I'm not sure motor liked too many people. Let's continue with more Bill Cunningham seven hundred. W. It's all over the news and social media reports of huge corona virus cases bringing up. Maybe you're worried about the safety of your family whether this will affect your job if it's even safe to leave the house. There's a lot of misinformation out there. That's why we gave you. The local authorities and experts who can separate fact from fiction. It's a tough time. Let us make it a little easier. Seven hundred WWL W. Do. Thousand. I WANNA. Be The baby. y'All! Amid A. Bad. The. American coming up. Later on the announcement of Governor Mike Dewine at five thirty, whether or not going to shut down all the Hamilton County Southwest Ohio. He's got the mask requirement going on, but not enforced. We're going to find out later. You heard from Denise treehouse about an hour ago, but join him in Alezais Fox new superstar Bill Hemmer. Elder Highschool School and Bill Hemmer, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham, show and bill. How are? The last time we spoke. Things certainly have changed good afternoon to anything new the last month or to. Talk to me about New York City Oh. City you know well I've been here nineteen years. never seen it like this. That's different. Well I. I love new. York I love. Manhattan I love the people I love the energy I love the fact that immigrants from all over the world, and made a decision to leave live somewhere on the planet, and come here and try and make a new life for themselves I love all that it's. and all that is is no longer. You know the Cova deleo stunned just about everybody. And the way I frame it really. I think there was a fourteen day period late. March early April I would say going back in time. Where I think you've got some of the best medical doctors in the world on the east side of Manhattan Island here so the best medicine. You're fine and I think you'd probably agree with that. And rightfully so There was a freak out in these hospitals because of the amount of people that were coming to see them, and that lasted for about fourteen days, and then they got it under control, and I think you know as I. Look back now. I think that really set the pace for the rest of the country and it was it was a problem but to alleviate the problem we got a US Navy shift here. We converted the Convention Center which is massive by the way in about three days, and they build a field hospital in central park and much of it went unused, and then they packed it up a month later and everybody left. I think the other day we had zero. Cova decimals tire state of New York. So that's all good. But the. Follow on from that effective. Everything's shutting down because covert here was Protests that happen tonight. and. I think the single biggest mistake. You probably know this very well. Just repeated for your audience, the big yeah, there was some protests on a Friday night Saturday. Sunday night was pretty well controlled. Lit A COP car on fire here there, but it wasn't really wasn't fool on intensity, but on Monday night they announced a curfew. The problem is they announced a curfew for eleven pm. This time of year the sunset that eight twenty. So yeah, two three hour window in the dark where if you could not stay ahead of the looters? And the effect of that was everybody was not allowed into the businesses for the three months prior suddenly, coming back to the businesses for the first time not to open up, but To put plywood. outside of storefronts and you know the Avenue in New York. It is two miles a plywood for a time down Fifth Avenue, two miles up six th avenue, two miles down seven th avenue, and this is repeated on block after block after block now I will tell you in the last two weeks a lot of that, not all of it, but a lot of it has come down, and some of the businesses slowly started to reopen I will. I will say the the ingenuity of restaurant entrepreneurs is fascinating to me because the law now allows them as twenty one days ago to set up a restaurant on the sidewalk over cars would normally park outside the establishment and they have. They have used their creativity willie to find a way to re open. And have outdoor dining in Manhattan, which has been I would argue. Of since the thirteenth of March which was a Friday by the way, it's the best sign a life. We have seen in New York today and here we are mid July. The double, the triple, the quadruple ramming number one was covert, thousand, nine, hundred and the harm thirty, two thousand dead New Yorkers the great majority New York City number two. This protest slash riots, the number three. What's happening in the economy as a fallout that is so many people are out of work and number four run the political season, and you're at Fox News and in the morning you're in the middle of the political season. I look at your website Fox News. Silent majority ready to roar. Have you been so inbred in new? York you can't sense elder high school. You can't sense Price Hill Chili that you don't understand what's happening in Ohio Kentucky Indiana and I. I also watch CNN and what Jake Tapper did to Governor Cuomo yesterday. Was this fabulous to watch him go after Governor Cuomo, that's Jake Tapper, your former employers CNN, but. Is there a sense that once you get to New York? You've been to payroll. You forget about the countryside. Because the way the way we live in Cincinnati has no relationship to New York City I. I hope I haven't lost that perspective I. Don't know what the governor's GonNa say in Ohio today at five thirty I. sure hope he does not make a decision on closing schools I. I really hope that's not the case and I. Don't think he will. I saw the North Carolina Governor thirty minutes ago said that they're going to go forward schools opening. They're going to give it a shot. My position is you gotta try. Just like the Sports Leagues and college. Sports I don't know how many will go in or how many will abandon early somebody but I I think you gotTa. Try to your question on New, York. In the election season, upon which we find ourselves hundred, and what fifteen days fourteen days away. Last Thursday morning our our mayor Bill De Blasios participated in the painting of black lives. Matter on. Fifth Avenue outside the trump tower. and that afternoon Joe Biden Got Black Suv Andrew Two hours and thirty minutes have done more. Pennsylvania delivered a speech went to his childhood home, took a knee, cut back his black SUV and took zero questions from national reporters. and that's going to be his campaign. He's GonNa keep it buttoned up. Are we can talk about inventions at a moment? Just let me finish his final point at five o'clock that afternoon. New York City's Mayor Bill Blasi announced that there will be no large gatherings in New York until the end of September. Well it's mid July. Handicap that I. Zero deaths Why are we forecasting three months in advance I? Don't understand the logic there. A lot of us at least in this I can't speak for people in an. Exception! When he was asked I think he was on CNN a week ago. He was asked why no large gatherings gave his reasoning, and he said what about protests I think with follow up many well. You have to understand where they're coming from so protests will be allowed in New York and I'll tell you. Billie I've lived in Greenwich Village as I said. Said going on twenty years now it is almost a rite of passage every four years, the protests at the streets and It's an election year and a lot of the folks come out of Brooklyn I've got no problem with that. Whatsoever I expect it's great is part of the democratic process in this case you once we get past Labor Day. And the large gatherings start to come back to Manhattan. You're going to see you're gonNA see groups of a thousand or two thousand people I would dare adventure in bike protests, and the reason why you do that is to gum up. Whatever traffic is left on the streets and the way it will do is send three or four people that advanced block off the street, but go up against traffic, and here they go boom boom boom, and the cops followed them and make sure everything comes off okay. We haven't seen that in two weeks. I'm not so sure it's going to happen until the end of August, but I am certain Willie that in September and October. It will be loud, and it will be crowded and news networks. We'll be there to broadcast, and they cover certain events in certain ways, and don't cover other events and other ways to have. The blasios say that protests have large. Large gatherings perfectly acceptable, but on the other hand that legitimate business owners and others, the one have conventions, maybe right to life society's right to bear arms. They can't get back together. The convention centers can't be used. You can't have sporting events going on, but if you've got a protest, you understand that kind of a POC rec- we figure out quite quickly. Do you think we do I do. I don't know about everyone else, but I here in Cincinnati, we had a black lives matter same thing happened in front of a eighty-one plum. Street in front of City Hall and last night some guy had the temerity to take some red paint and the face. Some of the black lives matter painted on the pavement, and the protesters are now anger that some went to face their property. which is what's been going on here off? Off and on for the past month or two defacing property, but if it's their property can't be defaced on the other hand. If it's someone else's property, it can be, and that's what's happening. In many urban areas including New, York City which by the way has about thirty, two and a half thousand fatalities. If you take Arizona added to Texas and added to Florida all three together is about one third of New York State. And Ohio we have three thousand fatalities from Cova Nineteen. Three thousand total seventy percent or a nursing homes, which means there's one less than one thousand tallies and state of twelve million, which means less than one hundredth of one percent of ohioans have died of covid. One hundred percent pay attention to that news a lot because you know obviously take a deep interest in Ohio still I don't know if this is accurate Willie, but I understand I- populations. Eleven point seven million, you said. Twelve easy figuring how many people under the age of twenty have died from covid and I? Don't know if it's from Cobra or with Cova. That's an important distinction, because a lot of Italians have been lumped together and I would have to be Dr. Michael Examiner, tell you know who goes into which category, but I believe under the age of twenty. There were two deaths attributed to cove in Ohio. Is that correct correct and those infants? If you take school age kids six. Zero. Zero six to twenty five years old. So I. think that perspective is important. I know the cases are shooting up in places like South Florida you don't want that to happen. keenly interested just like you talapity rates in hospitalization numbers. That's that's really where the story is well in America. There's eighty two million. Children and young adults and score, eighty, two million, and in the eighty, two million, there's under eighty that have died of covid nineteen eighty out of eighty, two million to me. That's not a crisis, yeah! He want me to tell you story. Please okay, so the Jacobs Jab at center You know you've heard of it. Right is a massive convention center on the West Side of Manhattan along the Hudson River, and that was the site that was selected to have it outfitted for thousand patients, which is later down graded by half to I think five hundred to take Kobe. I think I, think they treated one hundred. Maybe I think that number might even be hot, so we took our show over there one day and What I've been doing in New York really is, it's a it's a walkable city. It's even easier to walk. On the sidewalks cars on the streets, so you're gonNA, imagine and that day when we got done I walked home I said I, was saints, two and a half, maybe three miles from that part of the city down to my apartment. And I got to a firehouse at twenty, third and nine th avenue South Chris Corner I, remember distinctly, and there were fifteen ambulances there I'd say. Fifteen ambulances and they were doing nothing. And I thought well. This might be a good sign. And I got over to twelve street and Seventh Avenue. There's a little hospital there Lennox and They want these giant refrigeration trucks outside with the motor on the fan on the inside and some white leather. I'M GONNA. Call them walls or placards that hang down to prevent the view of those on the outside to see what's happening as they transport people from the hospital into the refrigeration truck. And there was nothing happening. and. I got home and I thought. Wow, that's. Pretty good signs. For what's happening in New York. On that day and I've always held onto that moment because I i. Myself maybe it's dead here in terms of the virus. And, if you go back to that moment that night Willie, it has not come back, cheer. And Credit New York for locking down to doing what was necessary to get it Outta here. but for the rest of the country that fourteen day stretches. Really what dictated what? And how a lot of other states respond now, I, ask you this. If the hospitals in Houston are saying they're near capacity and I think last week. The hospitals in Phoenix were saying a similar thing. If the federal government transformed a field hospital in Central Park in central navy ship and converted our Convention Center. Why haven't we done any of that for Houston or Phoenix? Hasn't happened. The answer is. Ready to do it, but it's not need a jet and once it's needed, he said we're ready to rock and roll. That's the answer and. Really? It doesn't match the headlines and I've been asking this question for a week. If you need help, how come we're not there and I think the answer is clear when you say you're at or near capacity, it apparently is not the case. Hope, it's not in Cincinnati when you talk to the leaders of hospitals. They'll tell you. They're about eighty five percent ICU. Capacity, which is a good thing, and it sense that they're kind of busy and the hospitals themselves have plenty of space is I'll give you one that of state of art, Department of Health. We have thirty four thousand hospital beds in the entire state of Ohio thirty, four thousand of the thirty, four, thousand, seven, hundred and fifty covert patients right now and thirty four thousand beds, and the high mark was about fourteen hundred out of thirty, four thousand. Now! Is that a crisis? The answer of course is no. It's not a crisis, but the perception is. We're in a crisis, and we make decisions based on perceptions and not reality. I would have two things to this conversation I mentioned by and I. Don't think we've talked about trump yet I think the calculation for the campaign for the next four months is pretty obvious. I think you're going to have a largely virtual conventions in Milwaukee for the dams and Charlotte's last Jacksonville for the Republicans both which will happen I one week of August seventeen second one week of August, twenty, four I think after that Joe binds you can have very. scripted tightly held events. and the president's going to try and push push push to go public. I think what the calculation has been on behalf of the the administration that well the campaign for trump. is to. Find a way to get a plane. Air Force One. To Estate. And all the event at the airport, and get back on the plane and fly home and I think that will be strategy. I think Joe. Biden will stick to the black SUV, and that will be his strategy almost see. Which of the fifty one percent of the country believe the next four months is the best strategy for the rest of US I. think that's one thing to watch. The other thing is what are they gonNA do about sports. What are they GONNA? What are they GONNA? Do about schools I it's mid-july did this is coming up fast and Lou Holtz? Was On my show yesterday I said coach. They're gonNA play football. He said. No, they're not. You're okay with that. He said absolutely I'm not okay with it. He said, but if the students are in class, you can't have football players on the field and he's right about that sure Nobel Hammer. We gotta go never forget. The Great Folks Have Price Hill Chili and greenhouses. I tell you, Willie. That's a great place for lunch. I I also liked the three way at skyline and I like the cheese Kony's goldstone covering well, give my best all the folks at Fox. Maybe one day bill hemmer will be together again you never. Really have a great day. You're the best thank you. Bill Bill Hammer Fox News. Let's continue with more. Your comments continue waiting for the governor five thirty on newsradio seven hundred w autumn you. See. Broadcasting. said. Rocky, Senator Bill. Seat man about that. That was his campaign slogan like. Have Cunningham the fixes in the fixes out vote for the man Cunningham well. Maybe we knew better job as center than you see football. For. He's one in a while laws the county in Tuscaloosa for some reason. I don't know why. Nick Sabin Oh. What did trump column Marseille on? The News said he'd lose. Your. God. I Ya I'm watching last night and this morning on CNN this morning being interviewed. What's your plan? Pay rattled off into this stuff. You get to work. People do more for farmers. I'm thinking. It got the rap down if he had run the program here at Barracas, Rosie ran for the Senate within here. He's still be here. But the guy was unbelievable. That's hope for stars like you to be in politics. Guess Name Is. Mike Dewan. Effort. Great Township Dogcatcher, green, ship Dogcatcher, running for that say if. Campaign donations by the way from him. Yeah, if your guide to wind shuts down the state run. The peasants pitchforks. It'll be would not happy people in Green Township. Tony Rosie Yellow. Your. Country, club. It'd be your. Now one other thing before you got the fact, the facts, all kinds of numbers for Ya do I'm watching last night. I think it was channel five. And I'm not sure. And there was some individual who threw some red paint on the artwork. The mural in front of eighty-one. Plum Street and this loud mouth with a microphone was pissed off that somebody would vandalize her property in her art. Agree Black. Black lives matter complaining about vandalism. Of their stuff, these see any. Hypocrisy should be any and all vandalism crack whatever it is. That were whatever it is. It is unless it's a hoax. A lot of these things are hoaxes, but assuming this is the real thing I don't know. Vandalism guess a misdemeanor. What about throwing bricks through windows and firebombings is also be. That's that's okay as long as it's not your property. It's okay to do that. You understand so if dewine shuts the state down here at five thirty rocky boy. Yes we will you still be allowed to protest? Would that be able only outside your house? It depends who lockdown protesting. Like business owners? Those who function no like de Blasio said. We're shutting down unless you're protesting which case you're good to go. or or or if you want to be a cop, it's okay to. You can protest, but you can't go to a football game. Go to football. You can't watch Coleraine. whipped by deer. Park San X. And everyone what who beats core rain now, everybody why won't Coleraine scheduled? Deer Park this year I. Don't know. Ask Them I have Oh, you have. Some stupid reason. They have a full schedule bright. EMC wetherby it be a GMC. Alfred you're connected to the. Coaches out there. They're not very confident that skimming. They all can give ten thousand reasons. It's like near you of why should be played? If you bump into the spring because that's i. think that's what a lot of college schools circles are saying. Okay, we'll just move into spring. It caused a Bevy of problems for college, but if you do that in high school, what rather kids play baseball on the Cross and other sports see in the in the fall southern. Football September October November December. It's not March April. So, what do you do? Do you have facts in statistics? Do what you want. National One look just from. Top to bottom. We've got national. Please do not deface the property of others so. Start, with this so. Let's talk school aged kids K. fifteen under. Of the hundred and thirty three thousand total deaths from Kovin Kay how many have been fifteen and under from covert. Thirty I'm home with thirty. Okay, do you? How many in that age group have died from the flu? I'm gone. What's three or four hundred hundred ninety? Four hundred thirty, six of die from suicide, six, hundred, twenty, five have been murdered in four thousand have drowned. Stay out of the water exactly, but how many of Diet covert, thirty So is Bashir and dewine going to call for the emptying of swimming pools. Concrete Them Up Philemon got he got to. Four thousand lives, how can you? How could you be against that as a governor? Tobacco and Kentucky Urban. How about getting rid of that stuff to just? Bashir care about life saves. US One person. GET RID OF TOBACCO RIGHT? Yes, but remember golly. Like four hundred sixty thousand people every year every year. But that's a shears after one life, but vandalism is bad as Matter says yeah of their stuff right? Okay, please continue. I just I feel like the framing of of all the information is. Twisted. Would you agree with that information? Yes, if for instance I. Get an alert on my phone. You know the paper says. gives us all the updates on Ohio covert numbers, and it says nine thousand two hundred nine hospitalizations. Does the average person realize that that's total total? Not Not like right today. There's only been one hundred sixty in the last twenty four hours, and we have thirty four thousand hospital beds, but I think the person goes God. Nine thousand people right now are Saddam. Six months and they say two, thousand, two, hundred and fifty nine are in the ICU right I. Don't know that's total been thirty six in the last twenty four hours, but that could be doubling. Four Times could be to now there's nine. It's a four hundred percent increase. Let me. Let me. Ask you this so I was asking. The news media was asking people this last forty eight hours. My wife friend's sister everybody in Hamlin County. How many when you go out and about just anecdotally, how many people would you see wearing masks I would say seven out of ten eight right now. It's eighty percent now right outside, and that's what most people say to me so wired. The question must be asked if masks are so important. How Co and we've been doing the mass thing for what three weeks or more more that people have been wearing wire. The cases is still increasing and spiking and all that. Can Somebody ask answer that question I? Have it right here? Give it to me. Like it when a woman says that's. How `Bout New England Journal of Medicine. Are you ready for this one? New England Journal Medicine under date of May Twentieth of Twenty Twenty One. Thing's not working. Let me see if I can get it to work there. We go all right. May Twenty First Twenty Twenty during journal. We know. That wearing a mask outside a healthcare facility offers little. If any protection from infection, public health authorities to find a significant exposure to Kobe. Nineteen is face to face contact within six feet of a patient with symptoms. That are sustained for at least a few minutes. Some say between ten and thirty minutes of sustained contact, the chance of catching covid nineteen from a passing person in a public space is minimal or non-existent, and now alum guests that was from like one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety, two or something right twenty twenty, yeah! In many cases, the desire for widespread masking is a reflective reaction to anxiety over the pendulum. So told you the story about nine months. Because the perception is that if you're in her mouth, care healthcare facility. There's a handling protocol how to take them off how to storm. How often to clean them where to put them? But in the real world I got mine on my left in my pocket. Paula put it back been wearing for last week. But it makes me think I'm cool and I'm doing something. That's a look I'll do it I will do it if I hadn't done. But, but if if eighty percent of eight out of every ten people I see are wearing a mask in cases are still up. Maybe. I don't know that should be addressed. That's all I'm saying. She tells us you got to wear a mask. Eighty percent reduction it'll say forty thousand lives. Here's another thing back to the hospitalizations. Houston is. Of their hospitals like. LBJ hospitals like they're saying. They're at one hundred thirteen percent capacity right, so we look at this love the hospitals and here in Houston. And apparently what's happening is a lot of the elderly patients are being kept. They've recovered from Cova, but they're being held because they don't want to do what Cuomo. They send them back to the nursing home. Right so there's no like inbetween place, so they've got to keep holding him holding modem while more and more patients commit you wonder should could a similar situation like that be going on in Ohio another study? Here's Butler County Health Department to me. How `Bout May June July hospitalizations in May segment and May in Butler County Your Home County. Eighty four. In June fifty one. So far in July seventeen. Cycle and upper town. About debts in May was twenty. One in June was three July so far one. One seven three, hundred eighty, five thousand people one seven eight year old, underlying Komo's from nursing home. How let's go to purple. How how many of of the of the? You know the hospitals are overflowing, which isn't happening, but here. How many of that is due to the fact that patients for three months couldn't go the hospital right now. There are all kinds of flooding in at one time, and they like it when it's ninety percent full because they're supposed. A hotel movie theater a restaurant. Does. Not, make. Business Sense. They have ten thousand Bacon Hospital. What will your friend dewine do at five thirty on your show? I've heard I've heard both sides of the coin. Death and destruction to resignation no. He's leaving Fran for Dr Amy Actors Coach. is any of this I'm getting texts from us? No, he is resigning. No, you see leaving his wife for Dr Amy No, No! SOBE says look. Let's just keep the course here. You got her doing a good job. You're wearing the masks I see all around and just let us keep this going. Because shutdown would destroy. Everybody you. Wouldn't and would not help if he shuts it down just a rock. Announce I, don't know. Shot. Because you got your book you got the. Rockies rows everything rockies. Thank you say Jordan wrote my book. Is Out mid August. You can preorder your copy right now. IRAQI DOT COM. Segment? Why haven't you? Mark Somehow trademarked or Him enough plugs I think to get a free. With your name. Wise Sake. Sag Dot Com. What about that? I don't know? I got enough I got enough to worry about it enough to make your. Book. Right one one day I'm glad you're back. Thank you for how why. Give me some sports. We'll ESPN. The report is a proud service of local tempstar heating and air conditioning dealers. Tempstar quality could feel in Cincinnati Kosher meat, heating and cooling, five, three, one, sixty, nine hundred. From is bad so says, be L.. Let number twenty to let it fly, Derek Dietrich he's been added to the Red Sixty man summertime player pool. He's working out at Pasco Park because he tested positive for covid nineteen before camp started at. That's the reason why he wasn't on the initial roster, but he's okay now. He's like he was the hero early in the season, begin the season last year right then not have the double that one game opening day wrong. Yeah! They started throwing adamant he was going to start to fight. Remember he had the man have on the team got in a fight almost then get the trade more on the hot stove league tonight at six o five. Right here on seven hundred wwl dot. I have this nurse friend of mine you ready for this. Percentage of deaths and non nursing home population from April fifteen in Ohio to July eighth gas is seventy three percent. Now. This is listen percentage of in non nursing home populations. The answer is. Point zero zero six. From April Fifteenth Century. Zero Point Zero zero zero six. and. We're GONNA do what at five thirty. Overall the number was seventy three percent of in a high nursing. States is forty five percent of all deaths have come in nursing. Three thousand deaths takeaway seventy three percent of the leaves about eight hundred total deaths in our total, which is under one hundredth of one percent same as in Kentucky, so we have these measures. To Stop more than one hundred of one, sir, can you understand the concept of one divided by one hundred sounds like somebody's ratings around here? Referring to Gary Jeff, Walker, no, I'm just saying. I'm. From the official department website, what is it again? Point Zero. Zero Point Zero Zero. Zero six. I can't wrap my head around. There's slug. It's time to panic people. The mask shutdown businesses don't play football because you could be in that category of zero point zero, zero zero six. Say Your reaction. Won't you just go kid? You play flag football and you don't have no contact. Still close enough to grab the the other guys flag. I don't know what to. Say. It in Sports I think it better be rockies. All the numbers I got lifelock. It is pissed off about vandalism. Okay, they don't want that to happen to their stuff. Segment get me out of the report. They're pissed off. Saying okay. Okay, okay. We'll Leonardo of another hot day here at a tristate with the sun, shining and blue sky with a little clouds here in Ken. Would we leave you? With the immortal words of the stew report had this feeling. I'm quoting Ohio My. single-handly. Gone virus stay out! Wow! Good luck rocky at five thirty but the. Governor Rock. Was She? Be Running mate Dr Ayman. Acton for for Ohio acting. Yes right boyish right, you'll be the. The. Boy Ab for all the governor's going to do the right thing resigning. Signing These leaving. Leaving his wife. Possibly out of your mind a major. Third now you're. Better impossible possible that. 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Good luck with him Yoga got patrick mahomes. I'll take garrett hilbert over wins over land. Yeah yeah well. We're going to get that all all the wind thing going on over there because the seahawks well they did beat the eagles twenty three to seventeen and a game seattle really dominated for most of the night the seahawks defense sacked carson. Wentz six times and help philly to under three hundred yards of total offense and after all the rumors that we'd be seeing a lot of jalen hurts last night. The backup quarterback only ended up reporting to official snaps as philly once again ruled with once but did have two touchdowns He also threw a costly interception in the end zone in the fourth quarter so shannon is it time and i know this is your guy but is it time to bench carson wentz. No it's not time yet And i think the thing is is that everybody saw that last night. his receivers. They can't separate his offense of lancang protection protect him. Doug peterson refused to run the football. Just he's just like forget it. I mean i don't get this. They got it. I in five i just want someone explained that twenty this. You'll have it. I than five and you throw them all threes break time sanders. Your average of five yards of care. Let me give you one of cracks at it. No and then. When he backed up he runs it three straight times. Like the defense doesn't know if you three straight times and you at the twenty five. What do i do if you're backed up. Now you're inside your ten you going to run it skills. I mean i'm watching. This is just what they did. And i i'm not gonna excuse car to win. Carson wentz needs to play better skipping. Because he's been hit so many have he's so gun shy he goes to the line. He's the i'm throwing the ball here because of that last intercept through to try to hit dollars god and it was on the wrong page of the west coast to west. They're still running like ruined. I think he had watch option. If the guys on the inside you break out if the guy from the outside you break in. But for whatever reason they got the wild cross it rich rogers right and right in front of you. She's on the inside on the left coming across. He's right window. If egypt rate up for two is the first look at the richard rodgers right there in front of it but because he's so gunshot he's already made his mind up. 'cause we'll get hit in the back of my head and he throws the ball. He pulls it interception skill. Look jalen hurts. Might turn out to be a fine young quarterback but clearly they have what he showing them in practice is not enough for them to go to him right now because if it was considering how bad. They're playing they say well he can give us a spark but they haven't done that. There's a difference between the nfl and big twelve. football ceedee. Lamb is not going to be running twelve yards wide open in the nfl. And that's what we're seeing skipped their bad football team. And the basically they're trying to everybody in the division with exception of washington is trying to give the division to dallas. Because you see the giants their quarterback. They're winning like three games of the row and the quarterback his the eagles can't get out of their own way and the defense played. Okay how about give derogates hill. It's okay i understand you play them a ton of money you trade it but you need help on decay of last night and there's no shame in that sometimes the guy has it going. You don't have it that if you look at his staff. He's giving up above the league average in maine coverage so clearly decay one of the better receiver. You needed the male but back to our regional premise. Should they go to jalen. Hurts into stead of cars instead of leaving and i don't believe i don't believe they should because this office upscale about it. Jason peterson is jason. Peters is trying to play offense of last would have broken toe now. I don't know a lot of people don't know this. Jonathan ogden retire. The premium left tackle football because of a toe. Jack lambert retired because of a toll as the defenders. What if career happens because told me. They shop abella relocate k. Do her thing would have toe. You gotta lie guy. Tried to play office. Blad dislocated toe. Skip they moved in from left tackle to guard. And if you look at it if he was chasing the thought he played defensive line land where he was chasing the guy behind it brugh useful to stay in front of them not safe behind him out. They didn't get past. You is just a terrible situation. But i tell you what. If i'm jeffrey lurie ain't no way of letting carson wentz go out that door and goes out right behind him. That will not happen Okay you finish. You did a very nice job of attempting to defend a man who's become indefensible shannon. You hits your bandwagon to the wrong falling star. He's just not very good on this one. I have been right from the very beginning and you have been wrong. You had one hot stretch in two thousand seventeen. Then he got hurt career threatening sort of knee injury. And i don't think he's ever been the same since then and what happened. That team was so loaded. it was so talented. It was so hot that a quarterback for whom you have no respect named nick foles took that team over and took off and played two of the greatest playoff games back to back. I have ever seen in the nfc championship game against minnesota philadelphia and then against bill. Checks vaunted defense in the super bowl. In which nick foles with that offense and don't be doug peterson who wrote a book about it called eros. I've fearless. He hung forty one points on. Bell checks defense as tom brady. Threw for a playoff record. Five hundred and five yards and that wasn't enough because thirty. Three or not enough to overcome. The forty-one that nick foles hung on bill belichick feel very comfortable saying that's the exact same offense. Those are the exact same players that one. that's obviously not now that's what carson wentz. That's what that's what gave everybody hope about carson wentz. And he is what. I said he was from the beginning. He is proverbial north dakota deer in headlights. He is proverbial. i'm lost. I can't see i go blind under pressure. I don't have poise. I don't have command. i don't have touch. The best thing he does now is he just takes off and runs and he's a big boy and when he gets unwound and rolling. We saw that he actually had to dries in the game. One late in the first half one orland third quarter in the first drive started with a twenty three yard scramble right up the middle on. What was it like second sixteen and it got him a first down because once he starts to lumber he will just take people on and run over people. I don't see the the ability. The poised to play the position the way it needs to be played and once it goes bad it goes worse because it's such a hard position to play that the poor kid has lost all his face. He's lost his confidence in himself. I think the team is losing confidence in him. And i've told you my worst nightmare as a lifelong dallas cowboy fan would be for jalen hurts to be given this job. I would. If i were running the eagles i would hand it to him right now. Jalen hurts has winner written all over and he's has high intangibles that carson wentz born homer for fame winner that you said do took that team and won the national championship remember. Jalen hurts pool in the national title game and then he couldn't beat out to bring training this great win and then he came back and save to as bacon and nick saban's bacon against georgia in the fourth quarter of the game. He wanted fourteen to nothing with to hurt. Only did get hard but he's playing miserable. What was he like. Five of seven manager demanded just had tight rope surgery like three weeks earlier. You know that on i know is that he came into oklahoma. Took what was mediocre talent to me. he did have cd lamb. And that's all he had. It was cd or bus and they were triple covering ceedee lamb on every play. They had a horrendous defense. Not this year talking about lash okay this year. It's it's the best. They've had ten years but last year he cared. He lifted a team that didn't deserve to be in the the finals. Obviously the semifinals. He lifted him all the way there because he just makes plays he just ignites a team. He's got football character football backbone. He's a play maker and he got in for two plays last night after we were told that he split. Snaps with carson winston practice. When i when i saw what happened last night i felt. Sorry for carson winston. How dare you doug peterson take carson wentz. When he's on the precipice of losing his job and making it was written. It was fifty fifty. You have to go fifty fifty snaps getting ready for seattle but really but here's the thing though skip okay. They split the slats snaps fifty fifty. How did jalen hurts. Look those snaps. Well i don't know but he got to last night and he'd been averaging three again. We're best youtube. He got his first snap of the year of his pro career without carson wentz on the field and then carson wentz came back on the field and played received five. All right i got it. So here's my problem with what happened last night to carson wentz. If you look hard at what you were up against that defense of seattle's came in giving up four hundred and thirty five yards a game. You realize that ranked dead last year. Nfl you realize burr worth that seattle's pass defense was allowing three hundred and forty four yards passing game by far the worst in the national league so degree of difficulty for carson wentz to hang onto his job at home on a monday night game was was pretty. The degree of difficulty is low. Because you can't ask for for more appropriate you could just take advantage. Surely you do what the doctor ordered. Have a skip thinking for just a second skill you tell me. They're averaging giving up four thirty five. The average given three forty four. That offense take out the last draft. Give that little hale. Take that out that seventy five yard. That was thirty three yard. Hail mary at the end to richard rodgers. Who wants made aaron rodgers. Look really good on a hail. Mary okay. So that that pattern staff to get him over two hundred yards pass. You let that thinking up until that point. They're under two hundred yards against arguably the worst d v pass defense in. Nfl his in all pays to be the third worst defenses as far as yard is given up in nfl history and all you could get was two hundred thirteen and it took a thirty three yard hail to get to that. Don't tell you nothing. We'll tells me he should be benched. What about the gut hold on constant with is on pace to be the third most in nfl history. He give fact four point two tires the game and you talk about six times last night. He's running away with the sack lead. And that has. I'll give you fifty fifty. I'll put fifty percent on the decimated offense of line i'll put fifty percents on carson winston because he stands back there and goes blind. I'm looking on looking in. Remember he got used to try to throw home. Runs into sean or galore. Whoever it was in the good old days right exposed to throw the ball to know what this what i love about you. So you say brady play great. What if i told the people that home that brady had a sixty qbr in carson will have fifty seven last night. Okay so what's your point. So how great one brady if he only had three three point better because the whip and you said demand trash So what would you would that outfit by. What we tom brady. Light with those receivers and that he would not be getting sacked six times a game because he'd get rid of the football he doesn't take that getting rid of the football causing report away but i thought the objective was to complete the past. I thought the objective for the receivers to get open get jim can we put a. I want to show him to clip. He gets thanksgiving three. Drop look now we go. There's a five still drop him and that we show we'll show you is on copy and i want you to tell me where does consequence for his three where they both affordable even thought about going. You no more like this. Lower receiver got five yards to separation. Do you think it's wide open right here. The bottom piccio. If people dep all desk go to the how you got five yards of separation come up and stand up at hand him. You gotta go one two three go. It's called the west coast offense read. Read ry is blind. He stands back there lil abner. Oh i can't find anybody. And he's lost all faith in himself. The team has lost all faith in him. I probably would have jalen hurston one throat just a real quick six yard out to al shaw. Who dropped his first one because he has no faith in carson wentz anymore. So i'm happy. I'm happy and i get what's happening here. Let's look at the bigger picture. Why will the eagles wake up this morning. And say i guess we gotta go with him again because they're only a game out of first place in the nfc. Least my dallas cowboys. Wake up this morning and say wait a second. We still have a great shot a win in this division. Because what just happened. Few daniel jones just pulled his hamstring. This it's a strain but he's gonna miss a couple of days okay. Even if the eagles had won the cowboys was still in this. Division is terrible. Nothing would have changed. Had the eagles won this game. Only thing would have changed is that we probably wouldn't the lead by asking. Should a car win still have his job. That was the only thing that's changed in this division. This division is terrible so if we look at remaining schedules based on one loss records what do we see. Dallas plays the fourth easiest remaining schedule on based on just one loss record. And then we look at the giants. You pick the giants at the end of last week to be in the driver seat right now and they are because they have the tiebreaker over the washington redskins so they are technically in first place. 'cause they beat washed them twice. They have now the fourth hard schedule remaining. The giants do with colt mccoy. A quarterback for two more games. Good luck with that and the twentieth quote unquote easiest schedule belongs to the eagles and the twenty third easiest schedule or close to artist is the washington football team. Okay so all the sudden it would look like wait a second. Maybe dallas has a really good shots. I hate it. Because i'm torn between do. I went to high draft pick. Or do i want a home playoff games. You do realize that people are looking at their schedule and seeing dallas on it and saying you know what that's a win for us why you're looking at the schedule and looking at who they're playing say. Oh that's easy. What do you think they're doing looking at the cowboys. Okay good luck with that. I agree with what the cowboys have left. They get the pathetic eagles. You say there are bad football team. They get them at gerry. World right pathetic okay. Well what about visit all. We say you won three. We came back and had a real down. Which should have been twenty all going to the fourth quarter against washington and we ran the dumbest fake punt in the history of fake punts. But down twenty two sixteen early in the fourth game three games. What we've played pretty well for the last four games actually. And how many of those games have you. And by the way we lost. Zack martin and cam irving in the first drive. We lost for the rest of the year. But you hold on. This is playing with our three office. And you say he's doing here like now. You talked about the center. He's got one of the best centers in pro by good. Am i right. did you see it. Snapped the ball. Fifteen yards over here. The wince butterfinger why did you thought you gotta give it up on car. So are you ready to say. I was wrong with it. What are you ready to. Just ask you a question. You're going to answer the question. How did you don't have an answer. Because i want you to tell me what that chris got done with half. I'm glad you brought up dak prescott. Because what he's done is he actually won a playoff game against russell. Wilson a plastic. Wow here's the biggest problem with carson wentz right now for the philadelphia eagles. I hurt for them. Eight the eagles do you realize that carson wentz has played a moment of one playoff game. He lasted like a minute. Yeah and in that minute. He completed one pass for four yards. That's all he's got to his resume playoffs. That's what are we into now. We're up to the fifth year. And that's all he's got and trust me jerry. Jones is sitting back today stroking his chin. Saying you know what. I'm looking at that guy in philadelphia and i'm looking at that guy in los angeles usa gave them the money because they deserve their money. You got a pager gotta pay carson when people pay. They just paid both of them and what. They've already paid both of them. And what is it. What did they got to show for. We got sean mcvay going. Doug peterson in la right. Now saying I don't think i was gonna pull him. But maybe i was thinking. But but then i didn't think about it he was wishy washy at bassett. He was evasive. He thought about pulling obviously geared off at miami when you turn it over four times in the first half and against san francisco when they blew their four straight game to the san francisco. Forty nine helped me understand this. Because the way you talk about dak prescott if you're talking about prescott is patrick mahomes or does shawn watson and cartha with mitchell trubisky. He's just better than carson winston. I told you that from the start either way. Back way you're going to be shipped game. My guys actually played in three playoff games. Well played really happy has one and how many is carson wentz one. So he's not even for one he's just oh for none he just. He lasted thirty seconds and through the losses on his resume because he started so this notion that dak prescott having behold or the shot wasn't type career. I've told you that all along. He's not in there. What you hype it. I'm not hyping him. I'm just saying. I'm glad i got him. I'm glad i've got andy dong. I'm glad i got garrett gilbert. Your guy is a disaster. Okay you've gotta say. I give you give it to win. You gotta give you got your three three games. You had that last year and you missed the playoffs cartha with one of the division for what did that feel about your guy would it said about carson wentz. Last year was he got to beat the giants twice. Oxygen washington wants and what was left of my cowboys apple. Those words four win skill. Oh the do trash get measure. Question did the dallas cowboys. Play the giants Sure okay did. Y'all play washington. Yeah okay so what the we deal. Affiliate division nfc east constant with beat the teams. That you guys flation. And why the bad that he'd beat him and you guys. Did you hitched your bandwagon to the wrong k. You but you talk about like that. Got the go with five super ball. I didn't say that. I said jerry should not paid him. Forty million. I set it from the star okay. So what's he gonna do now pay thirty time keeping yeah. He will be a difference between thirty four and thirty nine versus forty two forty two forty and guess what in two years he will pay debt seventy million dollars against the cap now. We'll we'll see what happens here. And he'll just say fisher cut bait. Maybe yeah results but guess what. Even if you could be that you'll be twenty years old and to be able to hit the market free. Do you believe he gets left then. Thirty were salary cap situation right now. Dallas or philadelphia. You guys you you plunged on on a guy you shouldn't plunged on on a dry hole is jerry would say at the end of the day skip. We're in the same situation. He got three wins. You got free we. But we're not we don't have dak prescott for life like you do with with your guy 'cause she's gonna count against your cap now for six more years but let things get you. Got all that talent. Even though your quarterback wind down you got all those receivers. You got that great. All got zeke. And you've got twenty dollars. Had great defense. I will take phillies defense any day or any. Every time i turn around. I hear about all that talent on dallas. That's all i hear about. Taliban team identifies talented team. So what are they got this. I'm here to say philadelphia's defense might be the best in the division and they look like it last night. They did a really good job on russell. Wilson really good job but you have almost all over them all over they had to scratch and claw to get to twenty three which is pretty good. What's consider it scale. Yeah considering what you plan against you could have got the fifteen knitted been That's that's all. I need to know so i would. If i were running i'd go with jalen hurts right now and they would have a real shot at winning this division because all of a sudden it life would change. They would start to click on offense. All i saw jalen hurts i. I'm not saying what you did. You watch him last year when he had fifty two total touchdowns and lifted a mediocre team into the college football playoff. What big twelve. Quarterbacks doesn't put up big stats in that conference where they don't play defense Well he got him game. You know big game. Lsu gone all the way to lsu all the only difference is oklahoma has more talented guys to play bad defense with. That's not saying anything. i mean. Look at look at look