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Rosalyn Vera of Cocina Luchadoras

MTR Podcasts

32:11 min | 2 weeks ago

Rosalyn Vera of Cocina Luchadoras

"On welcome to getting to the truth in this art. I'm your host ropley and today's guests is the owner operator of casino lucia. Dora's rosalyn vera walk to the podcast thank you thank you so much for having me this is i mean i'm so sorry we've been having so unfortunate but we're finally here In the middle of a pandemic. It's definitely you know it's always something adjusting to you'll business rawls about kobe and everything is an everyday changing things. So it's definitely something down. Always i have to ask for business on like. Oh my god. I can't do this but we're definitely here to support each other right and i always whenever like you know. Be more interested in like in like in this case you are about you know abou- about reporting about See now the business or the you know the creators here in baltimore because there's a lot of art and in its whole so. I'm very excited to be here. Great i don't have anything too crazy questions because i learned early on that i scare people who the question of my as. Yeah so. what's the best crabcakes say so scare people. Also but i got easy and it's hard to say. Hey you know what you mean. You're not the right so real quick so describe your work within a restaurant because you wanna surface one can say it's one thing but rather had have come directly from you. How would you define your work and describe what you do your restaurant. Well what i do. Is i do a little bit of everything we do from being I run the instagram. It male everything i do. I do all the amazing team behind me but you know pretty much whenever one of them is on i have to be there have to be here so i have to know every role that scandal because you know this is what i created here and you know so i have been meeting and And i love it. And i love all the challenges that it has and i think that's important to know every facet of the business and when when someone is gone like i learned about chata based on. That situation became my win. Some of the. It's always really nice like you to come and try the beafore and then get your own your own feeling about an email in your own. You know what you you'd about it. And so i think it's very interesting And then when did you think about those good especially something different. Now that rob to it to you know it just. I had a little some roman goddess. Our brand the so so when a surface mexican restaurant is specific area of the country specific region that the food is representative of or like. Is that like right for special for us My my culture where we come from assam from oaxaca. My that is my mom is from glam. so it's Two different states in mexico. They're they're pretty much near each john. So that's why you know they. They met in new york. Yeah so anyway. So that's what we have. And i was born in new york in mexico city mexico city with my grandma but she would always say sir town in and waveland to visit my my grandma from my mom's side gotcha. She would always say. And that's where i got. You know. just get to see them to the beautiful art of making dirty and providing food for us mine in making them from scratch so that is where my memories and everything come from from my grandmother. If i haven't said it before. I dig the food. Is you know when i've been there like since i became aware of it was like i would go in that area and i was like what are the ludar mask. What are these about watch wrestling. So let's masks and having the opportunity to have the food to try to food. And each time i go i go with my friends and like look. You gotta try this. This is great and it has the full flavor. What i'll overdoing. Anything is just like this is done right. This is done. This is actually being prepared as per as opposed to just put this together. And that's what i like about it. It's just really good food and so in terms of the name would. Is there any significance to the name of the restaurant. where does it come from. Well he as we always wanted to kinda like reminiscent from like how we grew up with my sister. Shout out to my beautiful lisa because she actually came out came in. It was really then. We both agreed on it. You know with casino agendas. Kasey nice kitchen. So who showed us is Women as fighters so wanna say like resilient like we are Bad or because. I actually have a tattoo. That's coaching go now. Which is like Someone that it's a woman. If so on our women there that taught me are being strong and never giving up in no matter what it is you know no matter what we come That's always there's always a light. You know whatever troubles we come with. You know as women you know. Sometimes we do take a lot so this is an honor for all us. Women that are hardworking. Or the take everything in you so much hard or emotion that not all women me but we use a lot album ocean in implicit knowledge. So yeah it is so honor all the women and all the fighters out there just in general to Get out there everyday life. You know 'cause life is hard by like you you know you gotta make sure you enjoy it too you know make it make it happen happen every day and you know come out in nyc may show you what you love. It's hard to get to the states though it only. That's that's really important to do what you love. You don't live the dream and sometimes require you to have those long days. Those those different challenges that present themselves and now ask you about that in in in a bid because that's that's key because you learn a line especially with his last year. There's been a lot of things you start earlier. That you have to to navigate. So i got two questions might be a little controversial. Okay would make good mexican food and what is your most popular menu item. Wow what what mace in. Good mexican from actually. I was writing. I was going through your questions. Now let no. I i was a cut and paste and was what makes a good mexican and i was like no. I don't think he meant that the mexican food. That is really really hard to actually sit. What is good mexican food. I think that overall to just do it all. I think when when you do with your heart. I like when you actually do it ways. How you remember it or how how you taste now. I think that that's most important thing. And overall i think is just anything awful. No what is love because you make it now when you make it you already using your hands or your vision your though the flavors you will smell the everything us all of our senses so i mean i think once like everything everything as long as you do it with love and with a lot of care and try to use the best ingredients if you can you know and and and people would know and they know and they taste it when they tasted the they appreciate it rate in that that effort that we take we take not once that you know more we go beyond more. That's what i wanna when whenever you taste the mile which you never right you put in your recently and it was like what am i doing here. Yeah so you know when so when you start telling your friends and you start already already know you sir building. Your own memory abundant. Hey i came here with my best friend. Whatever we had this best a mile or so. Yeah as long as you make it with you know with all your heart and that you are providing beautiful food and good food quality food for for you know your customer. I think that is what makes a good mexican food. All i mean i had the privilege. I have 'em laws who are mexican or have you so nudo before i've had. Yeah it was in clovis new mexico so my brother he he's married and it's just like this is what we're doing. This is great and it's like how do you know about this stuff was like certain things. I dismissed like tamales. As soon as i have a solid. So i try to make like how i grew up. And how the things that. I would see That's why i brought to my little kitchen and And then you said the most popular on my goodness. That is so hard. I try to bring up grass because now like look at me when my little restaurant but always bringing grass and saying cool went stockpiles. A dorm us. Have you tried that. I've not yet. I i've i've had the tacos about not torture yet and died in. That's very hard thing. Because you know it is retained dot goes and saddam for that. Glad would say i'll which is a much as of race or i showed the and oranges marinated day. Mike and then we slow cooking with banana. Leaves some tops seen pictures in my instagram. Saying about you know about what's up in you know in there so tender in asked so much flavor to you know and and then we top it was like Uptick all onions. The red onions and we put on no line inside like he gets like that the juices and everything the lime and audio unless you could chase so that would be a fairly popular one dot com. What you. I was very excited that it came out in a magazine so i tried now. I just have to go get that. And i've i've had. I've had the chicken tacos each child. Because i'm just very simple but i do enjoy pork. So let's lets you know you're going to even the pulled pork is really nice to it. Had cinnamon on edis like it's also like Isn't that the traditional way that we make need us more goes slowly as well but it's really good tasty garnett. Does we use the best policy. And i liked that so you need to put up and the other partner the dark does i would say lackawanna singing over because this is pretty wild. A regular cuban always but as a torture. Is that what we're talking know. Cuban sandwiches has nothing to do with black at all that was made in mexico and everybody has their own Sandwiches shove which is a deadly outdoor down where they thought does they all make their own nice. Sometimes they add an on a is just a whole like a lot of uh definitely one of our most popular items right now was scared because they have the beginning. A lot of people when i started did not know or this day taste. It didn't really know -joyed as much. But i see now don't sandwiches and dorothy are becoming pretty popular. I can see it now. i'm gonna come down. I'm ease these and another one of these back. Thank you world six toe pacheco's thank goodness. Yeah yeah a lot of tokyo chico. Because a lot of bubbles on the and they last any many bulimia the next day hangover. Look at me like so. Yeah so so you know it's it's it's it's a beautiful as though the type and is is really are so between those two. It'll be girls menu. Okay 'cause one thing. I'm looking for always go to different places. I have like certain desserts. That i'm a big fan of my my manager. Who's with me day. We went there. She ate one of those The flying like that night and she's like yeah. I the next one in the morning. I was like you are losing it and so i always go to any place that has like trestle chase or something. That's where i go. And that is my go-to cake. Or what have you. But she sold me on a flying so now that's on the list as well. Nah just have a list of things to get So now here's a question i have. Could you describe a experience or emmylou experience. That really influenced the restaurant or experience. I think Experience would be watching my grandmother when she would take us to her town in her house in the making the some from scratch from having a horn horn and then cook in it and that that is like demos like i could see like everything that for me. That's a beautiful thing. That i see all the time when i have my thirty s or the smell when we're cooking quite you're stacey mac to her so definitely. Yeah that's that won't be that as an experience life experience. Yeah but i'm pretty much. I missed a whole question. You answered it. So i mean you got so as an entrepreneur out there you know bad as women running running where have you killing. It was the best piece of advice that you've got that stuck in your head. That's still there to this day. I mean to never give up. Never give up in definitely. You know take risks. Because they don't take this. I remember when i started in utah with grinding the corn and making thirty s and then we'll people will come in and i was that thirteen year blue because blue corn. And it's you're right away. Is that read now. it's now they do claim for that variety in there like yes we can taste it. So i mean that that that for me was like you know Challenge for people to believe in what we're doing what we're doing now in believing when i put like a new menu i on or something crazy that we may evil actually see it and i told my staff. My my team get ready. We're gonna sound right. And they know. Because i post as like you know people like yes. I wouldn t let us like now. I mean what. Tom's have been down there. It's always align. And i'm like how can i know people out of the way box basketball. I wrassling green. Hey rob the press said. I'm not wearing the now absolutely so now. This is very similar to the advice thing. But i think it's a lesson thing. What would you say the the biggest lesson you've learned maybe aside from just perseverance piece but the biggest lesson you've learned and launching your restaurant that just taking risk is just having a menu that just just resonates with people. What would you say their biggest lesson. You've learned it would be the biggest lesson i learned. Well i think. I not that i did not believe in meals like like you said the challenge right in and that our people are just In the community here are over so kind and very welcoming shower. I think that is One of them things that i never thought that that could happen in income together as a community in and seeing how they appreciate you know so. That's the big lesson not even think. Sometimes i i stay in. I'm like thinking like whoa. How how did this happen right then. And i i. Sometimes i'm i'm proud of myself and we have to. It's hard for us to do that. But yeah i mean the dara's That when you take risk. I mean in in things like that that you never know what's going to be the outcome of for me. I've learned the lesson is that we can all come together as a community. I've seen it a lot to with that. I've done in the past obviously pre covered kovac. I mean those events were huge. We do events at just very a lot. A lot of local artists and latinos have come together and nineteen. I've created something different. Something that makes them feel closer to home. Great and you know what and the less with the with the young kids like high school kids latinos that they've never been to mexico. They've probably been to mexico like you know um to visit their grandparents and then they come and they want to embrace their their culture and start looking for seven. I think they identify a lot with with coming to the restaurant in saying. Hey i'm gonna get on dr bass or the the english now is now is is being now. We're doing a spanish. So i do that a lot with in my instagram in my polls I like a lot of sometimes. I do in spanish. I said i'd been blache. And so sometimes i do like a mix of who i am ending. I'll go through. And i try to go back to my old high school and college like spanish classes. Like all right. I remember this. I remember this word here. Okay i understand. I get it now. I'll forget is definitely. They're just very inviting very good. Social media greg instagram account. That's being run there and the food looks great on an run really well. You're super responsive so you wear many hats but you're knocking them all out so i have a few more questions. And then we'll be wrapping up. And i like to give every that i have on this podcast opportunity to shamelessly and means shamelessly plug anything that they want to. So this is this is the thing so this question is why baltimore why. Why have the restaurant here. Why why baltimore well. First of all i've never even. This just came about that. I had the opportunity to have this little space here but it wasn't really planned so i never. I never never thought it would be this. But then i was like you know. Let me just say opportunity in. Make it happen and see what happens So baltimore has always been says. My my dad moved here in two thousand and so he got a job. At captain. James landing so i think it has opened many opportunities for my family. And that's why. I think i remember one day i was like. Oh my god this. I love baltimore so much that i'm going to get a house here and i'm going to start. You know making roots here because this because it has been. This is my home. Now is my home. Even though i was born in new york or i was born in always. I grew up in mexico but this is this is my city in. I love it and like i wear proudly all the time like i love man always always and i always investing in. The city is what i'm going to. I'm actually going to open an ice cream shop to coming up in highland town could be interesting very interesting. It's So i'm just really excited. And just because people are just like pure various. We went through very. They're like they count. Wait to try this ever gonna take the try again. You know because they believe in what we're doing so this is what i'm saying that that is a beautiful thing about roy moore who uniform people beautiful scenes with you know and that's why people get come in and felt here because it's beautiful. It's absolutely that's what we like to hear. Just come here work here. Meet all of the cool people and it's a lot of talent and a small concentrated area baltimore's not huge as a lot of talent here we we have. What do we have the we. We have the science and there. We have the aquarium. We have so many things though the maryland film festival. Yes you know that you know and the arts skate beautiful events. We have here in the city. A lot of art and you will come to the best restaurants here because we take so much friday and what we do so funny. You should say that you should say that Which brings me to my last question. Actually so this is a curveball. This is this is not on the list. this is a new one. This is a curveball. And this is more of a you'll have put them in any order but aside from your restaurant. What are maybe three restaurants that you you really like like. If you have somebody come into town and you. They've had your food first day. they're enjoying. I'm going to try this as well. What are the places you would recommend to them. What are some of your other places your other restaurants not in any order just it might be like three of one hundred i love. I love so many of them are but right now. My my my what i I love what he's doing is Few seen my my beautiful friend. Chef john there over in canton so he only god the best rings and every time i go there are the is so so amazing. And he changes on that menu in and he's such a great talent. So i lo- i love you see. It's beautiful so check them out I like hanging out in the bus gas. I love their happy hour. Talk to mario got the land from you know. Barbara's sending you from mexico. He's he's from mexico so it's amazing so i do like a lot. Barbara's skus i'm glad that they're. I'm hoping that there are still. They're all been again. This really hurt us. We being closed in our city so I'm glad that aware back opened in. We can show the beauty and the stuff that we have here in in that we get back to some sort of normal. I mean we're still you know and it's good because a lot of people are already educated so it's not like you know you don't know what's going on it. Maybe we'll have some semblance of leg restaurant week or something that stimulate people just buying. Because i know that. I'm doing this time like i'm glad that i work out every day because i've been definitely supporting my local restaurants in order out like four to five times a week and But yeah it's. I'm glad that we're we've opened up a bit too just to allow for with precautions and all of that good stuff but just to allow for it and i think we have so many different types of food here. Oh my goodness it's like there's so many you have you want entirely under the qualities. This beautiful amazing fresh food just so so many you know at grab my beautiful friend. Smoke i love. It's like when we use when used to be normal like we. We used to get out of here and go straight. They have great margaritas along. Like afterward you know and now is like you know it's hard it will get back there you know. That's why that's what i usually. I'd like to do afterward my golden. Oh friday my favorite. My favorite going. Check out new restaurants lost. I wanna check out sally. Oh from my friend jesse. So i can't wait. I really want to check morality. But it's been you know close and open so she does carry out And very brave another woman. That's very brave. That open on pandemic tight. You go so. I love her and she saw use my my my taking risk. That's that's great taking risks. Because i i spoke with chef cad and chef kaya recently and they mentioned how much of a bad as you were. Just how much of a role breaker you are. I was just like i. I can't wait to talk the rosalyn so that's pretty much it for my questions. So now has a chance to plug the social media. Plug the website and the store while the restaurant plug wear whatever you want to plug shamelessly plug whatever you want to blow. Thank you so much for the time and the patients. We have to cancel all those. I made it up to you yesterday. That bad appreciate it when we say well you need to. I try out because you like to know interview me now. What i'm all about what they're destroyed a burrito that first time me and my buddy had a burrito he had. It's like these fries that are then he's gonna split these and i was like yeah sure that he just ate them by themselves. Were that good like really whenever you can show are not because i think they're so that you just can't share no but yeah no most definitely like you know support local businesses. You know try to do as much i know. Sometimes sometimes we do. We make mistakes and stuff but We always like is so nice because it's so personal dealing with you with customers or not. They're not just customers they're family. They're our friends too. So you know come check out baltimore. Baltimore is absolutely beautiful. Definitely come and check us out. How some guy goes goes right and the darkest than the doctors are really amazing. I'll be there now. You now have to try different stuff so every time. I'll make sure. I'll put something for you to try. I will definitely take the notes. Because i mean i like to have a broad palette and a foodie in i try to do things in the kitchen so definitely these days are one open utah. Where something that. We can cook together whenever you want to do that. I'm in on sounds great. And what's that that social media one more time just for uninitiated in following yet all casino us. Okay so yeah actually follow. That cage is beautiful. I always try to paul everything that we make fresh All that i pose this always you know the dark that we're making here or the worried doors. Sometimes i pushed them on my like out of this okay. So that's great. That's great yeah check us out and if you have questions and being just reach out i'm always Always available most of the time in instagram ninety percent. I'm there ohka by yeah. Yeah i'm always very you know just writing. I'm very excited to always replying that's fantastic. I'll do my son off and that'll be that. I want to thank you again. For coming onto the podcast. Thank you thank you okay. Absolutely beverly see you soon with new friends. Are you know that you bring over. Always so for rosslyn. Casino luther doors. I'm rob lee's and there is food in and around baltimore delicious You'd have to look for it.

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Toni J Collier, Founder of Broken Crayons, Director of Gathering at Preemptive Love and Co-Lead Pastor at Hillsong Atlanta

Bellwethers Podcast

19:12 min | 4 months ago

Toni J Collier, Founder of Broken Crayons, Director of Gathering at Preemptive Love and Co-Lead Pastor at Hillsong Atlanta

"You're listening to bellwethers podcast with matthew. Joseph hey there people thank you so much for listening to the belva. Those podcasts does your host matthew joseph and today we have twenty at collier. She is the founder of broken crayons. And she's the director of gathering at preempt allow. She's also the co lead pastor at hill song atlanta and a communicator. She's a host Consultant. so we have tony on us but does on the show tony. Welcome to bella It's a true honor to have you here. Yes so glad to be here. Man really honored to be on this platform. Great thank you so could you do you mind just giving a shot summary of what you do and who you are to let the audience know a bit more about you. Yeah absolutely yes. So i wear a of hats. If i'm just going to be honest i would say. I put myself into three buckets. These days number one. I get to be the founder of a women's brand called broken crayons to color where we manage a blog with a series that we do every single month we also have an exclusive women's group or were just helping women find community and hope in the middle of the broken. We also have a women's course where we walk about fifty women through a one year process of processing through trauma in pain in past relationships in and getting on the other side. Hope i get to do that. But also i get to travel and speak pastor Lead pastor with my husband appeals long atlanta nuclear plant that we've been building in working on Get to do that. Just preach the gospel. And then i haven't an incredible relationship in contract with preemptive love it's an international peacemaking organization. Where i just get to lead people to peace To kind of defeat their fears in cross on the other side of divisiveness in find love and belonging even in relationships that may look different in believe different than identify differently than they do. So yes i do all that animal mom and wife in just trying to do my best red light and love in the world you know. That's actually a really great introduction. So i mean you actually. I mean that's exactly what my first question is in fact so the i guess is like how do you aptly managed time as director ceo. Unabashed i mean. That's like three different buckets. That's like on to be honest. I mean when. I saw your profile matter. That is something that this one major rested that i should ask and most people today are like afraid to even start a business since having been there having a job as such they don't wanna take extra rests end because they fear that they can divert time into that as well so in this case. How do aptly managed. I'm you know in in three different roles. So i would say a man. Let's see maybe about five to six years ago i heard something that just changed my life And my friend shauna flowers. i'll never forget. We probably haven't talked in years at this point but she's just so incredible she she said this to me want she said tony. I think more of us need to break up with balance in mary priorities. And what she meant by that. Was that instead of trying to balance everything in one setting which man i can meet a queen of multitasking. There are moments where we just get to prioritize. What we're doing in the moment for me even getting on this podcast like mind set of what's my priority. In this moment while. I love my daughter and my husband. I said everybody up for success in say. Hey guys for the next thirty minutes to an hour. This is my priority. And i've had to relieve muscle of this idea that i just got to do everything at one time. All the time and i had to compartmentalize a lot of my life. I have morning blocks in midday blocks. I have assigned things to do during the day during the weeks. Even my days are assigned to specific projects in organizations. And it's just been beautiful. It's been honestly freeing to be like. Hey like i got tuesdays and thursdays for this only and during this time in this block. I'm with my kid. And i'm not doing anything else. Every call that comes in every email that comes in that is not the priority. In the moment. We'll wait. And i will make space in opportunity And obviously another really practical thing is I am just delegation station. I love working in teams. I m just i dunno. It's just my thing i am. I'm not prideful enough to say that. I own everything every single thing that i do. Every part of my life is done with villages tribes people. That can do a better than i can. Do that can run faster than i can. And i just really take the time to develop leaders underneath me who can carry so much weight. I'm micromanager. I just love to cheer people on and put them in the right places at the right time and just run together. So that's been a really big thing. I lead over by eighty seven people. That's kinda running all these ships with me so it's not just me man. That's that's pretty much a law. But you know. I think when you prioritize and that's how exactly how you do it and i'm like that's really surprising you know for someone who does all this lot and still has time to come on a podcast too. I mean that's like incredible. I'm amazed at how you actress give you their priorities. And that's totally great and arriving weather one. I think my next question would be regarding that. Because you told me that you have eighty seven people working with you right. Yes so In a in a world like this in a in a covert prices world everything. Almost everything has done to a should events and you know including the spot gasden been argument physical via via totally in two different cities and two different time zones and soviet doing it and you know being a communicator and a host. Now how do you think people can improve communication in a word because in this time i Straightforward communication is is the most mississippi. I mean i think that has become the more priority than anything else so in a crisis like this. How do you think people can improve Communication in which world. Yeah so. Communication has many different lanes in i. I may not be able to answer the question to directly. But i'll try to answer it from authenticity standpoint and then maybe provide some strategy as well. I would say first and foremost i think you have to communicate. What's authentic and true to you. A often times Communication not go. Well when you're in spaces that's not authentic to you. You know i'm not going to get on a stage. I am not going to get in front of a screen and talk about sports aright because people are going to see right through it. They're going to be like since you have no idea what you're talking about and the truth is when you have wisdom in a specific area it comes out of you right. It leaks out of you if lows from you when you can come from a place of communicating from experience man people just know it they know they concern since it in you know people value authenticity in these days. I would say i in burma's you gotta communicate what's authentic to you Because it will just come from you so authentically One of the things. That's been very very a big for me. In this season practically is meeting with people one on one and really talking heart before strategy and mind and execution and to do lists. I had a call with one of the girls. That i'm i'm looking over in training with a consulting contract and there was just something on my heart for her like i literally a day and a half before we even got on the phone. Our weekly one on one. I just felt something so heavy before we got on the call i was like. Hey i would just love to talk about how your heart's doing in. That's one of the things. I asked my team members all the time in the people that i get to lead. How's your heart what's going on. Like what are you feeling. Because when we begin to understand that people that we lead over especially the people that are carrying visions and organizations and churches or work for us by actually executing when we begin to understand what they're wrestling with we meet them in a place that is way greater than anything that they can ever do. Because what we're communicating is that they are more worthy than what they can do. And when you value that at a super high level i don't know man you get people's best they're like above and beyond and so i would say for any leaders out there spend time with your team's not just working in the business but working on the people you know and then i mean we're all other communication I have just been really really big lately on directness I i talk a lot. I'm a verbal processor But what. I really tried to do for people to kind of that down. If we're being honest a to do list for teams so these this is what. I'm saying in three bullet points you know versus like here's what i'm saying in on super long email that you have to spend three hours trying to decipher but this is the point that i'm trying to get to and that's really helpful communication as well. I mean that's really great. You know. Because i think I've been come in handy to a lot of people who listen to this. Podcast has struggled communication and do not At one pm. Even i how i mean because It's hard to come gives my team when there's too much on my and then i even skip the meetings but you know but being a band again being direct now i think those are the main two qualities that you know as a leader that you should keep forward in in communication and i think i think it's pretty amazing what you just said and i think that's going to be an eye opener. It's going to be a helpful tactic for a lot of people who wants to communicate better. So i'm going on so the next questions of broken cry on and you know and You actually say there's a lot of times that are broken. Crayons still color. And you know. I think that's like your catchphrase. But how has broken crayons enabled on in spreading the message of hope and restaurants to all over the world. Man first and foremost When i first started broken crayons i started by myself. And i was so confident i was like i'm about to crush it. I'm a three on any graham. Got this on lock. ended god was like nel like justice. Strata of hard. No i remember. I was two and a half months in in like trying to do my thing and goss like shut down and so i started down. I got off all social media for october through december and it was so difficult and then in january when i got off this social media vast all got saying you're stories is not powerful enough. It is not about just you. It's not about your story. It's a beautiful story. But if you're going to actually convince women that broken crown still color that i still want to use them even in the middle of their messed. You're gonna need an army. You're gonna need a group of people that can help to speak in to this idea that quite frankly. The world teaches us the opposite of their like. You got to be perfect to succeed. In god's like no you just gotta surrender in so i would say the secret sauce to brooklyn. Crowns is the team. I have a group of six women a team of six women that are just a nominal but they all carry their own broken. This story in their own traumas in their own pain when women look at us together all different ages in shapes and ethnic cities from indian to white americans. African americans In they say. Oh i can see myself in one of them and if god can still use them in the middle of air broken this and they can use me too and so the team's been very a huge part of seen this kind of mission press forward but then also through that when you have multiple people on your team from multiple background you to create multiple cooks as i would like to call them and hooks are different ways that people connect with your organization and so some people like you know logs there just some women that just loved to read and so we have bloggers content creators on our team. That's not me that's just the truth. i'm just. I am not about the region blog. Okay but i may watch video you know or listen to some audio podcast and we have women that are great at video content so we created the hope woman course where we're helping women process through broken to get on the other side of hope because some women just like it that way and you know with the community engagement and prayer. We have a prayer partners network where we have women real authentic women's six women who've come aboard to our team of volunteer their time To just pray with women and for some women like that's their stevo like they just want prayer and connection authenticity in community. It's beautiful but not everybody wants to connect with a woman that you know. They don't know that's just praying for them and their family and so we've honestly just created so many different hoax from beautiful aesthetics on instagram to video content the blog content to a whole course. And we're getting ready to release a even merchandise line where people can kind of wear their hope In so yeah. It's just been about building a great team and then creating multiple avenues to connect with women that they can see themselves. Wow that's that's great. You know and i think the next question would be What prompted you to start a broken dry because you actually mentioned that vaguely y. You actually said and my last question but there's also a continuation like what gordon advice. Would you give to someone who wants to start a nonprofit organization. Yeah well i think at the end of the day you have to call to the work I think it's really like attracted super sexy to say. Oh i'm going to start a nonprofit. I'm gonna start a blog. I'm going to start an organization but it's hard work like we're standing in the trenches for people like let's just be real about that even with my international peace making work. We're laying our bodies on the line on the frontlines of war like real bullets and bombs or people and with broken crayons. We're laying our minds and our emotions. Our spirits on the line for women to help carry them through some of the darkest times of their life. I would say first warmest you've got to be called to it. You gotta know it without a shadow of a doubt that this is the work on supposed to do. And i am willing to carry everything that comes along with it. I'm willing to be responsible for people's hearts for those salvation honestly for their relationship with god whether we like it or not people lean on us or those things i would say number to find someone who's done it before i i mean i wouldn't say this is mandatory. I would say. I think it's like a requirement i would say mandatory but i mean i can't tell you how many mistakes i avoided because i asked someone that had already done it right like someone had already been in my position. Some already failed a couple of times And it was beautiful. And it's been such a beautiful journey of just learning and growing and being corrected and being guided and so i have businessman tour and have a spiritual mentor and i have my husband. Who's been an entrepreneur for longer than i have. I just ask really really good questions. And then thirdly i would just say don't do alone and i know i don't know for some people like well i don't have anyone. We'll pray for somebody. Okay like go find someone lock arms with someone and i'm not talking about just a blog or you know a even a podcast. It's my husband. Start his podcast by himself. But i'm talking about real or There's a study out there that talks of it's called the the Goodness i wanna remember overthinking wade. Land and thinking waveland test and it is by the tom paterson institute. They're located in based out of california. But if you ever be opportunity. I would urge you to take this assessment. It's time online called thinking waveland tests and what it pretty much tests or scales is your ability and capacity to lead in how that comes forth or you naturally so i am what they would call a keeper so i kind of sit in the middle of the thinking wavelength but then there are other people. That are grinders. Bear on the other end of the spectrum of his thinking wavelength and there are other heads spectrum. there are people call. Conceive irs usually conceive irs are. Ceo's they're super high level vision. They love risk. They can change the drop of a dime on the other end. The grinders do not like big vision. They just want to execute. They want to be the ones on the door. Greeting the people delivering thing. And that's it. I'm a keeper. So i sit right in the middle of those two so i love strategy a whole bunch. And here's the deal. I have to have a conceiver. And i have to have a grinder on my team to really make the organization go. Because if i don't i will subconsciously. Typically try to run an organization not out of my strains but out of my weaknesses. I am not a grinder. I do not like the day to day tasks of organization. But i love to train people to do it. Give them a strategy to put it out. So i will definitely say if you can avoid it before. Starting something the third would be it a team. It's people that have the heart as you just like. You would go and do it together. Wow that's that's really great. You know and i think that the thinking wavelength test. I think that would come in handy to a lot of people. So y- guys make sure that you guys go ahead. It'll be there in the episode description. So make sure you guys go ahead and check that out as well. So i think it'd be really helpful For you guys. So i guess we have come to the end of the session and you know that was a lot of information though. It was like a lot of stuff that you know Tony kolia stopped to us from time management to communication and to spreading the message of hope and that is really great and today when we stand i we stand the world where entrepreneurship has become a more like a trend and everybody has a small business and everybody is trying to do something else. Weeping that this session would come in handy to a lot of people so guys make sure you guys listen to this and if you guys love this duchovny with someone has i think dow really come in handy to a lot of people. Once again tony jay Thank you so much or beyond the guests. It's a true on and know a lot of information. But i think it has opened the eyes of lot of people. Thank you so much absolutely. Thanks for having me. Thank you are people. Thank you so much for listening. Make sure you stay tuned for our next episode. Thank you take care bye-bye.

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Prof. Maria Kazachenko, Assistant Professor of Astrophysical & Planetary Science at the University of Colorado, Boulder

Scientific Sense

40:07 min | 3 weeks ago

Prof. Maria Kazachenko, Assistant Professor of Astrophysical & Planetary Science at the University of Colorado, Boulder

"Welcome to the site of accents. Podcast where we explore emerging ideas from signs policy economics and technology. My name is gill. Eappen we talk with woods leading academics and experts about the recent research or generally of topical interest scientific senses at unstructured conversation with no agenda or preparation be color a wide variety of domains. Rare new discoveries are made and new technologies are developed on a daily basis the most interested in how new ideas affect society and help educate the world how to pursue rewarding and enjoyable life rooted in signs logic at inflammation v seek knowledge without boundaries or constraints and provide edited content of conversations. Bit researchers leaders. Who low what they do. A companion blog to this podcast can be found at scientific sense. Dot com and displayed guest is available on over a dozen platforms and directly at scientific sense dot net. If you have suggestions for topics guests at other ideas please send up to info at scientific sense dot com and i can be reached at gil at eappen dot info. My guest today is emphasis akasa. Changle who said who's in assistant professor faster physical infantry soins at the university of colorado border and the national solid ray trie lusa interest rates from the storage of magnetic energy in saw active regions to release that energy source frame with an emphasis of comparison and integration of observations dissimulations. Belco mayor gil thank you. Yeah thanks for doing this. So i want to start with you. Have number of different. Peoples came out lost Eighteen months. Of so i would start with one of them to set the context for our discussion challenges and advances in modeling the solar at most vr white people findings and recommendations You saying the next decade will be an exciting period for solar astrophysics As new gun and a space-based instrumentation will provide unprecedented observations of this must feel and helius fear the synergy between modeling effort and Comprehensive analysis of observations is crucial for understanding of the physical processes behind upset phenomenon before we get into the details of your work on the sun Maria could you just set the set the context for some sits in the demographics of stars and sites and each and those types of things you You've chosen a very hard question. Oh okay so let's start from the first the second one the basic one. Where is our son. Our son is actually quite. Scoring is a middle aged. Tom i would say white. Male starts very regularly start. Not much is going on it. It's declaw star on meeting that it's not a large star. Not a small star. I would say to medium start with a medium time off so so so media makes to say about four four and a half billion five year five billion years old. The massive one solar mass. How what's we're thinking. Thinking of other stars in terms of like solar masses you could have stars of one percents off solar Said ten percent of solar mass old away to hundreds of solar masses. So amazon is squad fairly is fairly small too little so so again. Sort of in the middle ten percent of solar mass that he small star a hundred times or massively big star In our neighborhood beetlejuice is is a red giant. Really big companies massive. Does that one have. I'm not sure. Bob is on quite bed with numbers. Some folks. I chosen the day star since i might sleep the nights in the know much about other stars. But i think you're you're right. It's a large much larger. Start my style. So you have focused on on the sun and and You have a specific focus on that. Bridging the observational data a bit more willing. And how mortally could actually provide some some sleeping sites. You want to talk a bit about how that how that game through so now as you mentioned in the very beginning we're living in the golden age of solar physics. What does it mean that means that only now with starting to get this huge amounts of data fraum very new types of mission where starting to observe our son with spatial and temporal resolutions. While about other stars. What do we know about cars. We get spectra for other stars which we don't see what's really going on on on the other stars on the subway really see old is beautiful magnetic fields we see all these beautiful eruptions wearing now starting to understand what's going on on the very smallest scales up to like ten to thirty kilometers. See this huge amounts of new information. We are now in this unique situation of trying to where we could actually connects the two domains of observations dispute observations. You dissolve in your scope observe and then the models that will typically builds in separates separately from observations because we have all these observations. We could actually try to connect to domains. And that's what i try to. Yeah so so when you say officer vacations. Dooby cap instruments telescopes that are continuously collecting data from the sun. That's an excellent question. We have time saw observations of the sun in any other stellar of ground. Based is anything you could build on the grounds on this on their on the earth where we live and then in space so Advantage of the ground is that we could build a huge telescope and observed with very high spatial resolution. So really see very tiny things at but then we could tell their clouds. There are birds are there in days. The nights all kind of implicit. If then you have spe face going. Stay you good sense smaller telescopes because it's expensive to send stuff into space. But then you don't have days you have nights. You could observe twenty four hours and you don't have problems like birds or clouds and then he also you could see in whatever wavelengths you you wants to observe. We have continuous data coming to i. Thank you reminding so in space. We have continued observations ten years ago. Actually this week we have a see. We have a second meeting celebrating. Ten years of cell solar dynamics observatory solo ten years ago. We launched soulard announce observatory. Interspace observes the sun matt twenty four hours a day continuously so we have all kinds of continuous observations soy Just one of these telescopes. We have a whole fleet of nasa missions. That whose goal is to observe on different aspects of the sun and its effects other planets yet and so these observations. I i would imagine if since the whole spectrum good the infrared as visible another frequencies absolute right and so one of the bandages off Disobedience readings that we want to observe some specific advantages to exit infiltrate. Yes each waveland saw. It actually gives you a completely different information. You look at x rays in your body and you see bones you look in infrared that your body and you see that knows cold when you go outside like now in colorado. It's mine send so each. Each wakeman gives you completely different information. And that's why we have so many instruments and that's one advantage is extending stuff sending telescope into space. You could see x. Rays you could see out ultra violets and these are the key wavelengths to observe solar eruptions. If you actually look at the sun from earth maybe would say is such a boring star. Nothing going on. Nothing is going on there. If you even look in there in this using the solar filters the sun you see just a pancake in the middle sky. So nothing's gone if you if you look if you were to look at the Into x ray glasses. You would see all these beautiful eruptions in then. County of bridge these observations to numerical modeling. You know the the humidity more league that that i have done in engineering or economics We have we have equations. The relate the how you bridge this to As so yes. Numerical modelling east key to understand what's going on. We can't just stare at the sun in say aw next. Solar eruption happens tomorrow although in the plastic. We're trying to do that Looking just at the size of sunspots the main thing that actually defines what's going on the surface of the sun. I'm agnostic fields so magnetic fields are What are those those. Are you know on the front. You have magnets and magnetic. Stick to your fridge so Similar kind of magnitude exists on on the sun and this is actually defines when woods at sunspots erupts win with a toss the large eruption. So what we do is we measure magnetic field on the surface of the sun so we basically quantify the fridge magnets on the surface of the sun and we look how these magnetic fields change every every twelve minutes in the case dribs evasions. So we look at this Magnets motion how twists. How did you see on the surface of the sun and using these we put that into our mathematical models specifically are we saw us on mom electromagnetic equations and then we used as some once that we arrived as boundary conditions for our three dimensional models of what we think is going on in the solar atmosphere so we use the observation of the surface of the sun and they try to model. What's going on in there. In the atmosphere of the sun so actually in the last six years we created this amazing model holds coronal global ablution remodel. A huge collaboration between nine uc berkeley. Stafford's looking martin nasi bolton university of hawaii where we tried to build this model to model this kind of behavior of the son of the solar atmosphere pay on. Let's talk about that so the koran global evolutionary model you say using hmi rector magnitogorsk Doppler data to determine crawl magnetic field evolution yes We get to the details of that so for my understanding maria so easy task. Sort of you have principles of from electromagnetism Another physical phenomenon. Fuss principles You can take that and then you can apply a three conditions on that. And then you're you're you're sort of replicate observations to sort of fine tune this models but what does the. What's the process of redoing offensively question. The main reason why we're doing it is we want to understand how solar eruptions happen and the main reason why solar eruptions happen is because of the certain configuration of thin but field in the solar atmosphere. So there is the certain. Three dimensional configuration magnetic fields that leads to rush so ideally wants to measure the three dimensional magnetic fields to figure out when they're option what's happened. The problem is that we can't measure the sweetie medics yields. We can't put a thermometer or cometary. The solar atmosphere dishonest too far in its too expensive. Extend any so the only way for us to find this three d. magnetic fields if bill more we have measurements on the solar surface and then basically we have a moral us to extrapolate find the swede dimensional structure of the feels. I remember i don't got this right. There was some plaid or is it already inauguration to to get something in orbits around sun sets up eating a satellite park solar probe it. One of the most amazing missions of the of of current nasa helix strike missions is has been launched eighteen to study the properties of plasma needed. So that's the case where actually satellites will sleep amendment thomas. Her in the solar atmosphere five five percent of the distance two days to from from the earth to the sun soaked will burn the sun the solar atmosphere but before it burns tell us everything about the solar conditions. So this is this is michelle. You have something in orbit around the sun so that they can do. Multiple excrement is so there is solar dynamics observatory that observes the full disk yet magnetic fields and actually could go to s deal websites and see. How does the sun looks today. How does it look at me. How does it in ultra violet. How does it look in visualize and one of the magnetic fields then you could also loo look at the observations brown parker solar broke. That's the mission that has launched into the sun to burn inside and this mission tells us about the actual like the in-situ School at nc two measurements so the actual sir. Mamata measurements of the solar plasma. And so what scientists. What we try to do is figure out how all these observations match each other. It's actually not very easy problem. You see a very tiny fraction of the sun using this easy to measurements. And it's a big problem trunk to connect what's actually going on with this in-situ measurements. So if you take a cross section of the sun copied it looked like other sewn that specific names so actually that stay against the Cardiff solar research. That i quite swell under suits. We know that the structure cernan has added a helium four. that has already burned and then outside is hydrogen that keeps burning convene converted into human. So that's the kind of the core of the sun it's just predicted it keeps burning Outside said the energy is transported from the court to the outside layers. You have a radio zone Convection zone where is this. All this energy gets out towards an accident actually takes lots of lots of years for For a single To get out of the solar core to the solar surface yes so created the core the sort of bums around for years before for thousands of years actually get before it gets radiated and bad slowly next to all the way to the moved all the way to the solar surface. Yes the sun is still a sort of a pure hydrogen helium burning Okay b. medals in. Yes so this this hybrid into helium. You said the the coolest quotas helium so the bones fueled so to speak Yes so you. Basically in the beginning of stone formation you have a bunch of hydrogen and as this huge cloud Off stuff collapses You have a higher higher temperature. Insiders as the temperature. I guess to a certain Critical temperature hydrogen starts burning and getting convergence human. That's actually how we gets all our energy. That's nice and sunny and warm outside. Yes so going back to the paper. The the model that you described here the coronal global evolutionary model. Could you talk a bit about that. some more so moral actually uses the oxidation Feels on the solar surface onto recreates. Was this to read a mentioned structure of magnetic fields in the solar atmosphere. And what we try to understand. Try to understand. What's the wheels structure of dan. Solar atmosphere When there is an explosion happening when there is a solar eruption there of course lots of observations of solar but this model is kind of the first models that uses observations on the solar surface to create this time dependent mortal of the of the solar structure the grown structure up the east is a structural model. Maria desert actually has some predictability. Could you use a model due to predict when sword frames so it's used as the observations So mom you can use it really for predictions because it's used observations boundary conditions so you would most likely see their option Before we actually use the observations such drives the but this moral is absolutely essential for understanding when players happened because Since we don't have the information about the structure of the fields we cannot really a figure out why eruptions happen. And then secondly these kind of wodel's are absolutely essential as as a starting point for more large scale models. What when they solar russian happens on the surface of the sun. dan in some conditions it propagates disruption propagates outwards towards earth. And what. we still don't really understand how this propagation of eruption of this crew of this koroma's material happen so we use a more realistic moral near the sun As a starting point for like hugh new searing models in between sun and earth than we would also have a much clearer understanding of what happens near earth when this erupted material. Mitch's us yet so you take care the is drive. Treaties maggot or run in these models. Is the oats magnetic field. The interaction with the sun is is is a big enough to even think known for unfortunately not so all of this morning that we are doing is close to the sun so all focused on the sun. We're really trying to understand what happens. The way this close to us but still unknown subject are made started son and when so we try to understand the properties of the eruption and why eruptions happen in. Once it happens it's a totally different story of how its effects they are minus year. It and I guess us magnetic field has been there been disorder. prayers happen In some sense we are protected from it. It's a bit by the magnitude. Actually not so little bit completely protected by our nita's here and that's one of the reasons why we are still me and you are still here on earth because our earth this year protects us and it's actually very interesting holiday. What's happens at this interface between earth meters year and helius fear when the solar ruptured happens. You need a specific configuration between the magnetic sales at the at this interface so only when the next deals are directed in the opposite way. Are you get our laura in all these problems with electric grids but if you have parallel magnetic seals meaning the stuff that comes in has magnetic field orientation same as the earth Nothing happens it just it just struggles around. Saw so yeah. We should be thankful every morning. Say thank you here. Says what's the mechanism that creates this magnetism In the sun is the movement of articles. How having sanctioning. Oh we don't still understands out when and how the eruptions would happen. So the prediction moral predictions moral still Getting improved everyday. But what we understand. Is that this. Energy comes from the energy of munich fields. So basically you could imagine that you could think of the solar atmosphere as a bunch of storage of magnetic fields. This twisted magnetic flux tubes what we called that store this magnetic energy and when the configuration of connecticut field changes. I know it sounds very abstract and weird but when it configuration basically changes than half the conversion of the magnetic energy into into heat. Yeah so it's a bit like This is not a good analog. But these magnets storting energy magnetic flux energy at and some process then released those energy into heat so the almost i mean exclusively use this analogy twisted rubber bands. Imagine if you take scissors and the twisted rubber bands then then you'll get that. Yeah yeah You so you. Cut the paper active region iranians during cuisine. The cuisine Periods new insights from sun as a slow maitre Last comments energy do solar active legion certificate radio during during the speed so solar active regions Is there a specific part. So basically the whole son inc. Most of the sun is quiet but then they're the centrum. Cd's where the magnetic field is very strong and these are Sluts and the suspects were discovered longtime hundreds of years back. Because you could actually see them. If you take telescope with a solar filter you would see this ugly black spots and these are the places where next yields are very strong and these are the places where typically these eruptions hot and so in my paper what we did this we evaluated. How much energy is lost. Finally by these activity centers called active regions. And we actually figured out that i. Of course you could see this Active regions with instruments like solar dynamics observatory loops and beautiful features. But you even see these Active regions in spectral measurements. Will you just observe. A son is star so if you just count him on the lights in different wavelengths than you see that the amount of light floodgates and you could actually use the going to need to observe sunspots on or star scores on other stars so so new. The some spots is the energy output high. That depends on where you're looking at if you're looking in that tra violet or x rays so is hot our wavelengths. Yes you see. You have more lights Wavelengths you actually see have less lines like for example indivisible. some sports are simple simply like dark spots a heavy information so all starts behaving this way on expect like you said starts spots. Yes so one of the reason we did this study because we want to understand how the amount of light changes in different wavelengths and this year this was the first kind of study to analyze this kind of behavior and one of the main reason has been done in. We want to extend our large amount of knowledge about our own sun on the other stars. The number of certain august to the sunspots right they come and go in in. Sort of predictable. I yes so you have a so. Our son now has said this. Eleven year cycle oxidative cycles. So sometimes the sun has many sports or acting regions. Sometimes it has not and now we are closely entering the next solar cycle where still in the minimum bots in three to four to five years. Expect many sunspots and also many mutual arrest. Do we have a theory. Why why they're let's fears explaining why there are these cycles but we still don't understand why we have eleven year cycles and not five or six years cycles and i i guess From all the data that you have If everything is not very stable right all the a appears to be sort of explaining. What i'm one of the reasons are there. The solar scientists said they have questions so they know where they would like to look for specific things. And that's the may that's kind of the main philosophy the drives Build a building of the new missions for example we didn't know much about solar Between the area between the sun and the earth that's why we sense. The parker solar probe We didn't know much about solar polls. That's why european union. Some eastern nasa has last year cents on solar orbiter To look at solar polls within known much avowed of the Almanac than really really small scale features on the song. And that's the main reason why we're now building on hawaii. The deke is solar telescope the largest solar telescope in the world. So we know where to look for but we still don't know many answers to many questions. I know that a lot of Efforts going on to create its houston device on earth of the general electric city Expected to learn anything de la la was do sort of translate into practice. frankly yes Outside of my expertise about the sun is that it s a free energy so users can yes. And if the weather's yeah so i went to finish up with one of your recent papers Inferring depth dependent prosper motions from surface observations using deep will noodle network security. Could you describe so. What's up here before we talk about the training. This study that has been done. But my collaborator might was though got been. Watch him blade. So what's we have been trying to do. There is to figure out how we could actually use these beautiful learning methods that became so popular recently and the invent ends up in solar physics knowledgeable. Hot topic as you could imagine. And one of the longstanding problems of solar physics has been now how to determine the flows on the solar surface. Ha this stuff on the solar surface. That's something that's very hard hard to figure out from the so we so one approach to resolve this question east to use simulations where you could trade your neural nets work on the flows on design official laws that apply to the actual son to see what are the flow is the actual son. Of course you would get flows. That would be very similar to what you are trying to your neural network on in the simulations but the good thing about this flows is then you could use them for a bunch of applications for example for data driven. Motoring mike karuna global evolutionary model. That i was talking before so this kind of analyses extremely useful for as a tool for understanding the solar so suggest for my understanding. So you're doing some sort of supervised machine nikiel so you are eighteen. Flus and at using those simulator cells as as labels to train a yeah not actually using the intensity images oath solar surface and basically this intense team looks like at video off of the poorest on the stove you see bubbles their stuff flowing around. So the question is what's what's the velocity. How many kilometers per second measurements of each cell and the simulations did tell you exactly that this point is moving. This feed point is moving at this field. So basically you train your neural network on these Intensity and speed data than applied to to the actual observations to find the speeds friends will not a These constitutional networks. There your work. Yes okay and so So what you feel accessory creating the network was out so the action of the actual lost fields. Okay have some potential predictability than again. You can take a picture and you use the train network to To predict what the us then he applied is neural network on the data. And then you find what's the actual velocity and then as Relations you could easily test the performance of your methods. You test your. I applied to the real son interesting. Interesting approach so in conclusion maria I know that you have done. Lots of work in this area What sort of most excited about this. We look forward. I know that nasa has missions coming through right at smart data and so we look forward five years. What do you think would be the most So for me my own research. I'm most excited about a results. From the deke solar telescope that is being built in hawaii and that will start observing not any time within a couple of months and these times go will observe the sonnet the highest spatial resolution. Ever ask. Why would you want to go to even higher spatial resolution and the reason for that is. That's most of the sun is actually quiet sun so there are these regions of activity where a flare happened. But then most of this on. Is this absolutely quiet area. That in fact is not quite a tool so with this. New mission called the solar telescope. We will for the first time observed the small-scale magnetism and eat will allow us to find out how much energy goes through the solar surface. How does this up. How is energy gets converted into hits as you might have heard one of the largest solar enigmas is why the solar corona soho. You will further away from the un and then instead of getting cooler in actually gets hotter. Why's that with dylan know very well in so the hope. Is this one of the things that this new telescope will Help us answer. Is this question of whether this groom heating exists on the sun and other similar types of stars not looking outside of my area of research You know in signs. Everybody's focused on his teeny tiny problem even in this area of astrophysics such as solar is people are now are very excited. About new frontiers of what's going on between the song and earth ways Hideous fear arca solar probe is taking real measurements of what's going on. In between and the recently they have discovered that the magnetic field. There are very are. They changed the direction all the directions all the time. Even fire away from the sun in. Why is that nobody we knows. We also don't know what's going on the polls so there are lots of things happening on now in the sun. And that's why i would like to conclude with the same thing started with. We're not really entering the golden age of solar physics. There are lots of questions saw that we need to answer very soon. Yeah it's it's really interesting The The sunday note neighborhood be something to understand deeply. What the right things that you mentioned. including the heels fear it's sort of analogous to Be door no oceans or yes and and tedious field as you mentioned has some implications for Exoplanets extraterrestrial life. All those hypotheses that jamaica swap. Yeah yes wander. Standing these i think is going to be crucial. Excellent really enjoyed it much. It's my pleasure. This is a scientific sense. Podcast providing unscripted conversations bit leading academics and researchers on a variety of topics. If you like to sponsor this podcast please reach out to info. At scientific sense dot com.

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Chai With The Pre-Med Guys

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"Low everyone welcome to another episode of chai with the premed guys with your hosts myself and my dear friend wally today. We're starting our time with one of our alma matter. Friends terence thomas graduate. Who's continuing medical journey at sidney. Kimmel medical college in philadelphia. I just want to preface this before we start terence's actually ta for of my classes so this episode has been planning for quite some time. Now why don't you tell us a little bit about yourself. I wanna say thank you guys so much for having me. This is irish site reset to me. Or i said to him connected on lengthen reaching out to a bunch of pre med students. And to see you guys put into the work. Innovating coming up with their own form of content is super inspiring Kept me pushing He's going on so for me I originally Have a long story but long story less long Growing up you know. I'm from long island new york growing up. I didn't really know what i wanted to do. i had a lot of different interests allowed to passions around middle school high school. I start to kind of like fall in love with science Going into college. I was so in high school at the same time. I was playing basketball. I was a multi sport athlete. But once i got to around tenth grade i kinda hit a growth spurt and was focusing on basketball so at the same time as i was laughing my love for science i was also blossoming my love for athletics basketball. I was recruited to play college basketball at the division three level In in college and it was a great opportunity for me. Because that's like that was like every kid's dream you know to play college sports if you can so i couldn't pass up the opportunity and i decided to go to school for athletic training. Exercise science double major and i was also cloud basketball so i felt like i had the best of both worlds everything i ever wanted fast forward to my sophomore year in college on everything was going great. I loved college basketball. I love studying about the body. Human body to physiology anatomy exercise science courses on chemistry and actually was taking athletic. Training course and i realized that i didn't like it. I didn't enjoy it as much as i thought i did. And i actually really wanted. The responsibilities on that physicians entail in being a physician entails I really wanted to make the decisions. I want to be the decision maker. And at that point i decided you know fifty percent of the reason why i'm here to be in athletic training major Go to the school. S kind of far away from my home is kinda gone now that i wanna be a physician so i'm luckily stony brook university's grade school about twenty minute. Drive from my house came back home. The pursue that premed life on that these guys are on. I knew it was going to be a grind. it was a grind. i definitely had a different mindset. The most college kids. Because i was coming back home i was kinda man on a mission at that point i wanted to kind of prove everybody wrong approved myself that i could do it Nobody believes you when you mooney. Say you're giving up your college sports to chase the career on especially hard like medicine. So i kinda fell data chip on my shoulder and then just kept grinding. I worked really hard at it. And now we're here in. Medical school achieved the goal. And we're just getting started on on the journey but i'm i'm happy to be here and i'm happy to share might With anybody that pretty much. Listen absolutely that is such an inspiring story honestly and win win cairns actually connected with the lincoln had the fortune of seeing his resume and his resume was long list of macau pink accomplishments that that made me really proud to say that he's a stony oil and we get to connect and we got to talk a lot and we realized that we're actually thinking on the same level and save waveland so honestly that same wavelength was actually in a service type of standpoint so the main reason why we actually created this podcast was to be able to serve other pre med students about their questions about their concerns and connecting with them with medical students in a medical professionals so honestly every future doctor every medical student every few medical student has that service mindset so i just wanted to ask. How have you used on your strength to serve your community around you. Yeah that's a great question. In i've for me i think you know especially from application to Since we're talking about premed we're talking about get into medical school. You know for my application. That was one of the big themes of it. Just the person i like. I am the person i i enjoy to be. I like to find the white spaces in society. I like to find were things that people aren't paying attention and i like to fill those spaces So for me. It kind of started young wants to do innovative things like that. And then a growing up learning appreciation for really just giving back and paying it forward. I've different things Kind of along with my sewri and along with my team. You know i when i came back home and i decided to go to stony brook and i decided to transfer. I felt like i was behind. I also wanted to live my life in a certain way. I wanted to live my life in a way that i only did the things that i enjoyed Fortunately i had the luxury to do that. Because of the support of my parents and my support system but once you do the things. I enjoyed wanted to say. Everything that i'm going to do going forward is going to be things i like it. I'm gonna put my best foot forward in it. And i found that when i did that. And that was my mission and my main priority. I just fell in love with things. I was able to kind of create within my strengths So you'll see a lot of the times when you're learning something for the first time when you're kind of getting accustomed to things you can't really put your own spin on. You can't be really innovative with it but once you become really great at something you could put twists and different things on it that make it unique to who you are so in the form of giving back you know. I became really good at basketball. I became really good at a personal trainer. Understand the human body so different things i gave back to. I started drinking conditioning program at my high school alma mater with basketball team with the best team. There something. I wish i had when i was growing up for this super competitive super series asses. I wanna play college basketball. We know we didn't have a program. So i started one At my school. I'm i trained. You know high school kids in a mentor to to a lot of them Same thing with my charity basketball tournament. Something that we didn't have something. I want to create the fact that i had the connections the fact that i was somebody that came back home from school and immediately started jumping in with the basketball team. Helping them out. Doing different things helped me build a connection with athletic director at my school at my high school building. The connection with my coach. So whenever i needed something to do with just call them up and they they pretty much said whatever. You need I was able to do digs in. Innovate and give back. Because of nourishing those connections and nourishing kind of doing those things. I was passionate about Enact continues even into college. I was doing pre med society on being a executive board member for them vice president in public relations so just kind of spreading the good word and giving back those that were really need it so that that's always been a passion of mine in for me it was always about. Just how can i At innovation add discovery into. What's currently the current system of things how to make it better out for future generations right. Yeah no one thing that really stuck out to me in everything talking about earlier. Experiences was that Unlike most pre meds who think that any community service or any research or anything that they do has to be a very cookie cutter experience in that. It has to be very textbook. Premed kind of thing that if they're doing community service has to be related to health. So what would you say that to some premiums. That are just scared of doing something that you actually might be something. They're interested in pre-med spin on it. You know right. And i was actually ironically enough. I mean because i do youtube. I'm sure we're gonna get into it. these conversations a lot and I was talking to somebody. I forget who was but it was definitely somebody that was applying to medical school. Eric de leon their secondaries. And they're asking you know. How can i do that. Same thing put spin on something. And i and i in this analogy. Now if you're if you're somebody that let's say has been out of school working a gap year or even if you're in school and you're working part time as like a garbage man right. Garbage has nothing to do with health. Care there's no way that you could potentially spin that to make it healthcare but when you're writing your application when you're putting filling in these activities your job is not to connect everything to healthcare. Your job is to show that one day. If well trained. I will be a great physician so somebody that's garbage man. You know they may have nothing to do with healthcare. You could try to spend if you want. Oh yeah. I'm trying to clean up the community to make a pollutant freeze so that people have better respiratory health. You know you could try to spin it like that like that's actually your passion but you just wanted a job as a garbage man like let's be real But what you can say. It gives you a certain level of work ethic. It gives you a certain level of understanding that you're the type of personnel. Do the things that nobody else wants to do to benefit society. You know those type of teams in the type of takeaways. You could take a get from doing a job like that and those and that's how you can write your application to make yourself look like a strong And well rounded person. So if you're looking for a different activities do i try to say do what i did which is do things that you're passionate and it'll show in your characteristics it even if you do things that are non related to medicine you know. Strength and conditioning kind of is but the takeaway wasn't the fact that i was making kids healthier. It was that i started something new. That saw weak link. I improved it By doing something with my own. Two hands on dedicating my time to make things better now. Those are skills and Talent you look for in physicians you want a doctor that's gonna go above and beyond to make that change you want adopted. That's gonna do the things that nobody else wants to do. I'll put in the hours put in the time that nobody else wants to do. I'm so those are the of things that you want to try to exemplify. But i would say. I would say don't think about that when you're doing it. Don't think about how it can suspend this into a good application on my Just think about what you're passionate about. And then when you get to write it down your m s when you start analyzing okay. This is really what. I was getting out of this experience at the end of the day. i i didn't think about any of these things that i did. I just did them. Just do that. I'd say just do that. I think that's definitely like a good a really good message. That's lost on a lot of people that the main thing is just. We just gotta do things that that we truly enjoy and and we enjoyed them. We'll be able to do them well. And then at the end when you're applying sure you can do a lot of reflection and whatnot but turns just because you mentioned that. It's also wanted to ask one more way that you've Started giving back to. The community is through your youtube channel and i was just wondering like what was what was the driving force behind that what you'd like hope to get out of it right so for me. The driving force was initially. Just that kind of to give back. I had a very unique application cycle To say the least unique in a positive way of course originally was planning to apply twenty eighteen. I did my cat i was. I had my advocate. Ready to go. Took 'em karen june. So essentially i was waiting back until i got it back in july and then i would apply so i'm ready to go. Submitted it was. It was already filled into amc everything in i am cutback and you know i was down because i didn't score was i wanted to apply the following year. Increase some different activities Improve my application improved. My personal statement and i ended up the application cycle with ten medical school acceptances. So i look back. And i say i'm an exception to the rule. How can i help others realize that this exception could actually be there. Reality If they do like. I said do the things that you love. Find your passion get good letters recommendation. Good grades and show that you love what you do. You love healthcare. So i decided to share my message. Share my tips on how i'm through my cat Tmi tips on how. I went about application cycle and different things like that to give back about the same time. I knew that there is a win for me which is not only the mentorship not only building connections but also the long game thinking about ten years from now if ten years from now when i'm in practice now building up this youtube channel over time now have content. Now i have A history a story that people can reach out to me from different platforms on to now benefit my practice benfit. How could others as a doctor. So i'm definitely playing the long game with it. I'm not planning to make six figures on youtube or not planning to be a full-time youtuber. But i don't understand the long game the in the implications of the long-term youtube grind on. So i just wanted to kinda give it in that way. But also maybe in the future Reach benefits from it as well absolutely turned sir. You're absolutely right about the long game series where actually ending on keeping keeping this episode or this series in a long long game type of fashion having a lot of different types of people coming on and basically sharing our own story are unique story because We wanna we wanna give out to the community in since the community has essentially given back to us in terms of medical students giving us advice. We actually want to pass those advice down to other people that might not have the same outlets or the same ability to have those information and honestly turns i. I'm very very. He psyched and hyped about your work. At the it is it is exceptional And honestly the stuff you have done. You must have had some sort of regiment about balancing. So would you like to talk to us about balancing the activities that you've done you know you talked about your sports life. And then your academics. You wanted to double major. So how did you go about balancing. And what type of advice would you wanna give the student athletes. That actually also want to go into the field of medicine or just in general student athlete. No that's that's really important My work ethic probably was derived from sports from athletics on. But i think it's also something that just inherent in me a wine to always be the best for whatever reason but be the best to myself compete to myself. Always holding myself accountable. I think they'll just certain things that you really need to have out because going into medical school in itself is just a lonely road at times. You know you had frantic people that are there for you but nobody's gonna put in the work for you. You could study in a study group all you want. But at the end of the day there's going to be time that we the grind put in the work yourself so that was really my mindset and helped me on that mission to get into medical school So i'd say for me. It's hard to identify balanced as premed is definitely say. I made a lot of mistakes. And if i were to go back I would change himself. But i wouldn't at the same time the fact that i did a lot of the things that i enjoyed All the volunteer experiences. I did all the clubs. I did all the research lab experience that i had The classes that i was taking you know. I saw the light at the end of the tunnel. And i just had that head down with the in mentality. Solo mission mentality that i was able to persevere through it without feeling that level of fatigue on doing so many different things that i enjoyed. I didn't really feel like i was working. You know the work. That i felt was like i honestly can't tell you that i felt like i was working like i. I knew i was working hard. If i were to take a step back and really analyze. I was like i would really think that i'm crazy on the amount of workouts putting it because i was just a man on a mission. You know when you have that that mindset and you're in that mindset of like i have one michigan's medical school. I don't care what i had to do. I had to make a lot of sacrifices their times. Where like my friends didn't even know that i was in existence. Because i wouldn't talk to anybody like as as frequently as i should. I reject the family members. I missed out on family event. I miss out on friends. Events sonny time so if i were to go back i would definitely do it again. And incorporate my friends and family a little bit more but it was a sacrifice. Knew it was gonna be a short term that would ultimately benefit me now but looking back on something. i'm trying to do now especially a stem. More time with friends. Spend more time with family understand that balances important. Because i wasn't when i did get burnt out on when i was staying from the second time. There were times in undergrad. I'm sure i was burnt out. But i just refuse to accept it. You know and it's one of those things that it's not worth extra point. Oh one your gpa. Just for you to sacrifice your mental sanity and as far as student athletes. It's it's super hard sanath a. You're living a fulltime life. No matter what division you play at no matter what level. You're living a fulltime life. You're getting up early to do early practices. You're going to class pride soon after noon. You you eat sleep with the same people that you live asked about. Seen those people all the time it's hard to venture out and kind of get. Get into your own niche. You get into your group. I remember i was playing college basketball. Come home for a winter break or something. I play basketball the wreck with some of my sony friends that went to stony brook at the time. I was like it must be nice to just be a regular student like just to chill and has had like certain loves of free time in like Have time to yourself where you're soon after. You're kind of you know coaches time for seventy percent of the day. You got thirty percent of the day. That's your time so it is tough. But it's definitely doable. The allow people to do it. I see a lot of people that can get into medical school as a college athlete. It is all about prioritizing and understanding balancing schedule Those are the two main main thing prioritizing ounce and schedule but if you do everything you love it's hard to. It's hard to say that you you don't have that balanced about programs that those are my time to fulfilment you know even the tongres didn't wanna go. I would always leave and say. I'm glad that i went So you know. That's how i found balance. Really geno definitely. I think if anything like you're the you're the example that Bouncing all these things that a lot of students find impossible. It's it actually. If you just put a little thought into it is possible. And i think one big aspect in that that we've been touching on a lot so far is just doing things that you enjoy. And that'll make you. They'll give you a sense of fulfillment and i noticed that even in the research experience that you did. You tried to incorporate the experiences you had kind of sports that you did rehabilitation moving research. And i wanted to ask you a little bit about that. In that how important it is to rather than just doing some research just for the sake of it to actually do research on a question a central question that is actually some importance or some meaning to you right. Eye hundred percent agree. That's something i was. I will say that me getting to that. Lab was probably like seventy percent luck. Thirty percent like intention. So what. I did when. I was trying to get into research labs liz. I essentially sent out probably like fifteen now. Cold call emails to different professors. Different p. is and i was pretty much looking for a research lab in neuro science i enjoyed on neuroscience i was interested in like spinal cord injury and stuff like that Ended up meeting with a couple of people that rejected me. Said they didn't have space and have interest in in medical or undergrad students. Rather because we don't have any time and like the stereotype is like a Undergrad student that goes in those five hour is does it like half effort and then you never see them again and you end up spending on all these resources on trying to get this person in your lab and then they don't give you the full effort so a lot of afraid to let undergrad student. I keep saying medical undergrad. Students in pre pre-med sin because of that they see it as all these guy just trying to check a box. Whatever the case may be you guys know how it is So i was looking for spinal cord injuries. I was lucky enough to get a reference to my lap guy that ended up doing work with and she was really open. She was really open to letting people in. And i'll tell you that. I it wasn't really fun. I didn't really have a passion for it. Wasn't until i spent a summer doing research there and i was able to do a lot of the nitty gritty stuff. Learn how to matlock Why are we doing these things you know when you first start in the lab they give you the mundane repetitive. Excuse me like the mundane repetitive. Like boring stuff to do. Because that's what they want you to start with but a to ask the question. Why am i doing this. You don't really get an appreciation. You kind of just see it as ongoing the numbers of going through the motions. But once i started asking the question why why why about me closer and closer to understanding why this is important. I think i could have found any research lab that was somewhat of my interest but i can make it my interest by asking the question. Why and how to incorporate might just into what their purposes. I'm really not much interest or not much knowledge about post stroke rehabilitation or gait rehabilitation It was something that was interesting to me because of my interest in movement on my interest in science. I didn't really have interest in cardiology. So stroke was not something that was you interesting like on the top of my list. As far as interest. I was interested in levels of movement and different things like that so i think i think that overall it was a little bit of luck a of finding the right guy but having that understanding of myself asking the question why i think that's. That's what really drove me to find a passion for it not checking. The box actually had a conversation with my pi recently and she was talking about that old. Check box thing. You mentioned a little bit earlier. Just checking the box. Who in the things that we're supposed to do Please do not waste time. If you're gonna take anything away from this interview please waste of time and just go in and try to check a box. You'll only support yourself. You'll think that you don't like research when you might actually have a passion for it. You might waste their time. I'm you could get so much out of something. it's all about kind of diving deep versus Being a widespread and a lot of cases. We're all Premed students that do have a passion for science. A lot of people prema- students do site their passion for science and they like to prove that using time in a lab so lab. That you were talking about is doctor. Vass david's lab and say that how do you stand out within a lab or within specifically i guess david's lab because honestly a lot of pi's do take a lot of students. And do you ask. I'd like to say colloquially how do you how do you not get lost in the sauce so like yeah yeah no. That's that's super important. And i think my joining the lab. My success came from a few different things I'd i'd love to just give one answer. That's like are the stand out but i got lucky to search since where i'm when i joined the lab. The timing was really good and my mindset. Join was really Motivated but at the same time i had a pi that allowed me to grow. So there's a lot of guys out there Unfortunately you could be in the lab for two years doing the same job for two years and never get on poster. Never get on anything. Never get on a paper. Never be able to lead your own experiments because that's just how the pi is but abaza. David was amazing. Where if you gave effort and she recognized it If you gave extra time you ask questions she recognized. She gave him more responsibility. She wasn't afraid and she isn't afraid i'm to give more responsibility in. That's why she's great She allows you to innovate allows you to think for yourself. And she'll always give you the support you need to make it happen So much timing. I joined the lab in a good time to where. I didn't know anybody in the lab so i saw a couple of times just in my experience with labs and what i hear you know if you know somebody in the lab or if you have friends in the same lab you might not give that you might not have that same dog mentality in a way you know you have the same underdog mentality where you're working hard to show out or in the your best so i didn't know anybody in the lab so my whole mentality was at the prove myself. I'm you know talking back thinking back like youtube. Like what guys are doing the long game right that a long grind. I had the long game picture in my head. What what i look like. Two years in this lab is going to be was experience. Going to be like Long term in this position. I was just thinking about are gonna get in. Check off box and get out long-term thinking long term so As i mentioned when i did my first summer I wasn't getting paid. I didn't have to be there. But i was there and because i was there when opportunities came up i was there so they gave opportunities to me. When other people weren't putting in the effort. I was putting effort in the lab. I lived in the lab Pretty much people would see. Maybe like dude. Why are you here like why are you still here. I because i lived in the lab. Because i lived it Whenever opportunities came up. Hey you wanna do this. Yeah i'll do it I and i was the first one their first option. So i think presenting yourself dedicating yourself enjoying they have on that ashen helped separate you just just. It's also but it's also easier when you have asked for what you do so. I enjoyed it. When i enjoyed the matic's when i joined the science enjoy the force production and the force absorption and how it's relative to clinical medicine and how i could see myself potentially saving somebody in the future with the science and i'm putting on today that's when things start. You know the will start turning and you access import questions. Why am i doing this. Why are we doing this and you may not get the answer they want. You may be like nobody knows why we're doing this or why in when you finally get that answer. It just makes everybody better at the same time when you're asking those questions so I would always say to somebody just summer. Summarize it ask the questions Being visited and just be there Dedicate yourself when you're planning to go into a lab. Take pretend like you're taking a course right. You have to be at the course three days a week for an hour. Each day Plan like taking a course planet in your schedule so say like fifteen hours in week. Ten to fifteen hours of my week to the lab maybe five hours at first and then up at semesters semester. The more that you give to it the more they're going to get back on but it also depends on how gracious your pi on. That's true honestly. We're all chasing the wise in our premature any and our wise turn into our passions basically and is very clear that your passions center around sports rotation movement And it resonates within almost every activity that you've done in your pre life so is this because you have a specific clear goal aspect of this field of medicine that you would wanna change that you would want wanna seek row. What what's your thought on that. That's a great point. And i was something. I was a little bit afraid of when i was riding my application because as you all already mentioned we kind of think that we have to fit. This mold was a doctor looked like was a true ideal Premed can't we think about the emt experience you think about the medical assistant experience you think. About the scribe experienced the thousands of thousands of hours of research and wet lab experience bench lab rather so we think about all these different things right. And i had none of that. I didn't really spend time gaining traditional healthcare experience. I didn't have a lot of experience. You know working under a doctor on. I didn't work in a doctor's office until my gak. You're actually so. I felt that i was at a disadvantage because of that But like i mentioned. I was doing live things i was passionate about and when i turned back four years later Or on a six year. Total pre med journey. Look back and i realized that. Because i was doing the things i enjoyed. I was able to create in those spaces and innovate in those spaces and changed the game in those spaces and be a game changer. in those spaces to the best my ability and because i was doing things to the depth in the with i was just trying to check everything i was trying to get something in in. Stay there for almost two years. When i joined fits for life volunteer program for obese in the cardiovascular at risk cardiovascular young kids you know the first day i was there dr martinez who runs the program was like i told her. Hey jackson Here like how much time can you commit. And i'm just thinking about like Short term so. I'm just thinking like beer. I don't wanna commit too much because we have lives. And she's an as long as i can be here and she's like why for fifteen years so How long are you going to be here. And i just thinking about that and you know next thing you know. They're two two plus years three years into the program and it's just crazy time flies but being able to dive deep dive deep into that program was very very beneficial because it allowed me to get more experiences and get more things. You always there like similar to the research. I was there so i was able to pick up more responsibilities but originally when i wanted to my pre med journey. I was interested in sports medicine. As i mentioned. I was athletic training major. I was interested in science. And i was interested in sports in high school was like guard. Sports science sports medicine as my path has where. I'm going to head down and so i just surround myself with a lot of things i was interested in but does just naturally gravitated to as well I was interested in orthopedic surgery. Because ed experience with an orthopedic surgeon and i loved it. ah going into medical school now. You love so many different things. Because you're passionate about science Everything that i'm learning about is is interesting. Everything learning about. I'm thinking about all right at this point. I think i definitely want to go into surgery. Not sure which area i'm leaning towards or the obviously because that's my background those interests. Those are my patient populations that i liked to see and work with. I like the idea of doing that kind of thing. Where you're you're much. Oh on your hands at the medicine. So in those cases yes. I gravitate towards that. I see myself as as those figures because that's where my experiences are what you know now in medical school thinking about art will learn about hemoglobin. Where you're learning about this. How can i related to medicine. How can i relate related to Surgery you know. How will i need to know this for being a surgical doctor future. However i need to know this for if i'm treating patients with these type of chronic diseases doing surgery on them or even if you're just a surgical on physician however needs to treat these special cases that come into my office come across my desk So i think i've always been a game changer. Mentality person innovator discovery type mentality person. And i don't think that i went into. Its saying that i want to be this thing in this specific area. I'm just gonna fill up my resume with these things. i think. Just naturally gravitated what i love. So if you have a story where you gravitate towards oncology you might not not colleges and your future but you might have gone through something family member might have gone through something where you Naturally gravitate towards access where your heart is on. A resume will be plenty of that. I hear stories all the time about people that want to go into gyn same thing. Women empowerment won't women's health because that's where they're patching is nice. They have all these experiences and their application. Looks like are prototypical premed. That wants to go to gun. Prototypical premed wants to ortho. Do you think you know. How much can i really stand out. It's they say that it's dangerous to be like to High strung on one specialty in all these different things on by think that i showed that i love medicine as much as i love. Everything else. So that's kind of where you find the balance and that's where i found the balance. Do my journey no definitely turns your your belief in Having the dedication and the singular goal working towards something that you enjoy. I think that's something that i myself even. It took me a while to learn that. That i can't just be i can't just be goal oriented you have to be process oriented than just learn to do things that you like and if you kind of look at it your entire story A lot of they're focused on old. Like i need to fill up fifteen activities. I need to do this many hours of this. This many hours of that but in a way your entire story just seems to be one really strong activity which is something that you ended up enjoying so i just i just wanted to ask like for all those students that just. It's kind of a stress for them that you know they see someone. That's doing tender things. And i have to do those ten different things because i need to be well rounded. What's just one final piece of advice. You would give them to ward them off from that. Jack of matt jack-of-all-trades of master of noncommittally. Right i hundred percent agree with that. And that's something. I kind of live by. Am i every day life on even as a student. You see that. In as a pre med student plenty of people see that where the case of i see everybody. That's in all these different clubs during like five research. Labs on how you have time for that. I don't know how you have your taking twenty one credit somehow. I'm at the same time. This person is out competing me. They're going to get into medical school. And i'm not that's what you think. And then you turn around and those same people that are in all these clubs you know. They're struggling to get into medical school on their second. Try new got into ten and then you think all right. I was I was little crazy back then. Or maybe what. I was doing to somebody else probably seemed like it was crazy like the things that i was doing. The amount of stuff that i was working simultaneously Might seem like a lotta people. You know when you're a premed. Your first priorities braids. Get your grace if you get integrated you get into medical school and then your focus everything else And they tell you have to do all of these different things to get into medical school Really i think you really have to do a few things. Do pass new products in bonn to your experiences that you're passionate about on the second thing would be get involved in some research because it does help you stand out but don't just involve to do it on getting involved to a level where you actually give it a try like i said. I didn't really like my research. In the beginning. I could easily quit the lab and said it wasn't for me but it wasn't until i ask questions why and gave it an honest. Try that i realized. This is what i liked creating. I like to think about scientific method. And how i can look at the literature and everything that's going on in in. How can i contribute to pushing medicine forward on approaching it with that mentality. so i'd say passion product volunteer experiences have medical related to find something that you love to do on second thing get involved in some research obviously the third key braids get good grades cat. The fourth thing is guessing shadowing experience experience that you could ride your personal statement Some healthcare experience that you can write in your personal statement. That says i know what health care about. I know that the life of doctors what i want to take on a lot of people miss the point of the difference between the doctors in every other healthcare profession. It's not helping people is not helping people more. It's not diminishing those other Healthcare jobs responsibilities is actually. You're the ceo. You know you're the boss. And initially when i was applying medical school i had the wrong mentality and i'm lucky i didn't apply when i wanted to apply because i had the wrong mentality. I'm italia was the corner office guy head of the head of the. Or right you you you wanna put on this pedestal. And when i realized is as as the boss you know you are employed to everybody else. You are the person that has to hold yourself accountable at all. I don't cost everything is your fault. Everything's should be your fault. You have to embrace that so being the third person that embraces everything is your fault being a leader and by being a leader that means taking responsibility for everything Understanding how to give responsibility and kind of navigate that world and deviate to other people on those are the things that make. Those are things. I separate being a doctor. Being everything else is that responsibility. It's owning up. Like i said when i want to be premed or one of the athlete trainer i i was like i want the responsibility of the doctor. I don't wanna wait for a doctor. Tell me i could take off the athletes helmet. I just want to be able to do it. i don't want to tell the with. The doctor told me i could proceed with these not treating the patient. I wanted to be able to do it right. I want to be the final call. I want to be the guy with the pressure on my shoulders. That's what we wanna do. That's what we want as doctored want to be the ones that are making the final call. So i'd say those are the things that you want to focus on in your application. Everything else will will play as long as you have experiences that show that you care about responsibility. You care about leadership care about helping others. You have You know you care about autonomy you care about being independent you care about working hard. Work ethic You care about responsibility. Everything else will fall into play Just just be the person that you are in the right medical will come along Different medical schools care about different things and the right medical school will come along and choose you and the rest will be history mold you into the person that you want to be because you wanna be in a medical school that mall. Ju it's the person that you truly want to be at the end of the day. You don't wanna like figure you make it and you make it there and you end up being the wrong person on person that you're not actually passionate about so. Don't really worry about depth over with at all times if you have two or three great experiences that you can really hone in on do that versus just jumping into a bunch of different clubs and club hopping To try to fill up your resume. Because i read a lot of resumes since in a lotta applications since making my youtube channel and you could tell right away the ones that are trying to fish for something. They're trying to connect every little thing to medicine to to overcompensate overcompensated for the fact that they have something missing versus the people that just write about what they love and it's clear night and day like this is to be a great doctor this person. I'm not really sure darren's. It's it's been an absolute delight talking to you and Just everything you've said has been leg. It's it's given me a bit of a lesson. Just think about and i don't know if you noticed but full disclosure. I was taking some notes here in there but Anyone else that really likes everything that's parents has been saying. It's really got them thinking. Be sure to please please. Please check out his youtube channel. It's just his name. Thomas i think i just heard a search it up on youtube alongside med school or something and it. Sure anything like that videos. Yup mcat steadying research all that stuff like definitely go. Give his channel a look. 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The End Sars movement in Nigeria - Dr Olamide Samuel

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Even if he's just as listeners so we can truly make education a democracy so thank you so much joining joining the show and take the time to leave us. First of all can can also get you to start off by introducing yourself and for background about you and so that can get a What you'll let you thank you very much. Haven't ear say elimidate samuel ago by older shorts and my background in the research was sexually purpose on national security strategy an international security overwrought caller traditional academic Word the sense that i sort of shifted insert convenience on a few observations. That made growing up in nigeria. Upsetting initially started off recognizing journey by looking at international diplomacy in looking at how tall can be leveraged to give some sort of order in the world away to mediate. States interactions with each other. But over time. I discovered that perhaps some of the moves to vice. It issues case studies that we looked at had lots to do states essentially being very defensive and hostile with regards to anything that appears to be a threat to national security and this hostility was usually animated by the acquisition of lots of military hardware Buying up lots of arms small arms light weapons but also locked conventional weapons in many cases or in some cases nuclear weapons and say migration international law eventually pushed me closer closer to the concept of national security under one had but also to the flow of weapons and international tries to control these weapons but also how tried to contain constrain us states And that's pretty much. How it got to the national security ops control in my paychecks. He says and then this at so s university of london informed National security ulcer announced Activists inside a lot of my work. Outside of academia is focused around trying to get states to be much more accountable and to be much more. Transparent in their purchasing and utilization of weapons are both nuclear and conventional intake haiku. Here but that s amazing. I mean it's really refreshing to see that. I'm a academics new in these subjects. Don't just studied them but actively you try to make change on it we'll try to sort of initiate the conversation about making change am which is like you know. Typically in the past wasn't the case in and and i. I've interviewed academics in the Have made this argument that. Why should why are we. As academics expected to have a political activists noise by are we expected to be this neutral but others neutral mean and so was really refreshing to see what you're doing. I wanna i wanna go into. Before we get into the details of the activism of that. I wanna ask you about some growing up in. Nigeria and obviously nigeria. Right now is dealing with his own issues with saws and nestle. So could you sort of paint the scene to the political scene to odious sub Background about nigeria country in. Haven't got to out that. The of violence fire the police army and nigeria was the form of a former british colony gained independence in nineteen sixty and upon gaining independence. Store number things we inherited from the colonial administration. First of all was the precursor to notice the nigerian police force in shaping perform today we had a set of constabulary which was utilized by the british government's at that time twin enforce control over major in territory. The second thing we inherited from colonial administration was this based confederate style government where the regions much more potent political centers a central government and this was part of the british government divided strategy. And so how does this relates tepe dancehalls movement today upon gaining independence within six years of indian independence. Two of these dynamics up first of all the regional power centers and second of all inefficient repressive police force that was developed by british to maintain control in nineteen sixty six. We had our first military. Coup because regional centers of political power were not satisfied with the political autonomy. They were receiving the center. In this case the eastern region political region was friday dissatisfied with the northern dominates had a political power structure at the center until we had a major the time. I'm who was Will who carried out a military coup and assassinated mostly northern and western political leaders in other to establish a lot more political autonomy for the east. This is perhaps one fatal mistake that led to the niger. War of less than a year later because it was reprinted attacks. From conan's of major with houses soldiers and your soldiers from the west carrying out reprisal attacks to install their matt in the center and it led to a free for all the crew culture wherein you're much more likely to gain political controlled country via militarized needs providers estimation date upset leader than through deep political process through democratic process but biproduct of the struggle for power in the center which was at the low of high politics was at the average nigerian and the average nigerians person those security and a tease for progression economically. Could were much more determined. By what this achieve our dom- than by what merits qualifications quantities they Individual and this led to dislocation of many ethnic minorities is led to scuffles your struggles between the average marion on seeing any other. Niger in wasn't the same ethnic group As an enemy until there was always the sort of underlying political disturbance incidences of riots incidences of violence crimes were rides and the government quotas whole struggle for political center did not really pay attention to the breaking down low and say over time The sloan became so great that it was very difficult to carry out. A voter became so great. That was very difficult to carry out in just a financial transaction or any sort of administrating process without facing the very systemic very entrenched ugly face of corruption without facing some sort of violence without having to pay someone undecided to get the price of roofing done and when the government became much. More aware of this Breakdown of law and order while the resorted to one tactic that they have done all along which has of our manner repression to maintain plitt And so precedent today. Amadou harry was actually the first military leaders of nigeria in the nineteen eighties. That really highlighted this trend token about so he was a military dictator who ascended to political power fire. but who under his racine your economic processes social presses have conducted such to such an extent that he declared a war against indiscipline and this war gains discipline much like the war against terrorism. It was an open ended. Free-for-all that gave the states legitimacy at required to clamp down on anything it viewed as you know wreaking up discipline until we had soldiers and police officers who were authorized to use force beats down warehouse owners who they claimed were holding products up for example who were hiking prices products and said the military aggression and msci violence actually became much more domestic for lots of individuals for nature. Because the views. Bruce physical force was justified to deal with problems. Store inherently political and inherited burr critic until nigerians have been socialized into this political system where everything could assault by folks an. It's it's it's at the same time. A political system that it also wholly involved a wholly absorbed in the struggle for a powered political center so the elites doing their thing in a trying to maintain their productivity to power. But whenever anything that looks like indiscipline flares up they can just send out searches. Send out police officers go. Do whatever uprising does happen. And in nineteen ninety-two. Nigeria had a spike in honor of reason burglaries discipline and they developed the sars units within the nitric police force Is cold is an acronym for special anti referees club especially terrifically scored given extensive powers to investigate down entrepreneur now time because the sauce was treated as a separate unit in elite units in the police force Over time they began to engage in violent repression oppression of citizens in the extortion bullying in the murder of citizens for personal financial gain and it became much more systemic to the point that in twenty sixteen late. Twenty six hundred. Two thousand seventeen every nigerian had heard about sars that if you were a young nigerian especially a young person with a t or having a laptop in their bag or anything that shows that you work westernized or that you were financially excellent targeting as as a legitimate target saying that you are either referred store or you'd stolen the to wealth that allowed you to preach something as basic as laptop. A young people were very socketed. In this climate Lots of political activism to highlight systemic decay law and order impression of young citizens of targeting young citizens. The most recent ration- fats happened in october. This year where sars crimes in such oppression became so unbearable that nigerians took to the streets knowing the consequences were known potential consequences of taken to the streets in political niger. Two streets to demand for the fifth time in five years the dissolution of sauce and live with of october a president harry remember him from nineteen eighty-four announced that yes. He is going to dispense yards and that they will take take away the leeway that is a units take up streets and make them focus on a more personal like organiz crying because this was the full time at least in arts administration that he had announced disbandment to the solution sards. Nigerians didn't believe in and so for nine days after are delivered Mitterand's continue taken to the streets politically organize and present demented government than i tweeted dissolution of made more political reform more police reforms and a much credible at the culture tissue system but on the twentieth Tober this year. The niger government once again resorted to the same tactic. They abused over over an latest Twentieth tober while participants were peaceful protests in waveland nitrate flack the nigerian ministry and other police units were deployed to the token Lifein on protests is killing at least twelve individuals and the government has refused to acknowledge any of these killings. Took place at the hands of their says and Political apprising in s going on around these killings the icc international criminal court has coated investigate state governments of which is a state where the token shootings happened has opened a judicial panel acquired. But that's a story for another day. The core is. This is a great trae similar to my findings stats. Nigeria's of national security is so politically tainted that there's perhaps the limits to the to physical violence that the government would miss out against citizens organized police force to crush any sorts of political opposition. Or any sort of headway and sort of disturbances to the stability of the central regime. The leckie massacres. is actually a product of this another Where the government remains wholly focused control of political power in the center but delegates with a very freehand the the fighter repression pop any political dissent to specialized units will get the army would apiece force who accountable to anyone domestically or internationally are commit. Violence insists however depletes burger. Listened british colonial rule. So we're ause unit police squidward where them all politically align to Give him artie or they just politically aligned to just funding from the central government. They are allegiance to whoever is in power that point in time until the niger. Police force before independence owed. Its allegiance to the british governor. General at the time and insolence switch to the prime minister and said these forces are up don't necessarily have any political leanings towards parties as long as a party can take over control of the center. Their allegiance is to the continuation of the units fire funding arm and proximity to power. I constitutionally does Is their remedy for for this. Because obviously i mean i'm telling you this because constitutionally we have the almost identical problems in iraq the difference being that we don't have a specialized unit. The infants is that we have so Constitution that allows you know these leeway for for certain abuses of power to happen and so. Do you think that there is a remedy for this or do you think that is something. That's become too ingrained in the political sphere. In in in nigeria. Bring up the constitution a because niger tying has had four major revisions to its constitution. And at this point in time we're acting another nineteen thousand nine of metro constitution saddam. Last time we had an overhaul the interesting nigeria's constitution is that through the strings of military dictatorships firm nineteen sixty six all the way to nineteen ninety eight these dictatorships came in an either suspended the constitution completely or so to be bright entire constitution points in history where the supreme sovereign power was a federal military governed military council or prime minister or president of these institutions in their pollution actually entrenched and enshrined the interests of those parties though were able to violently take over political power and so when we talk about international talk about human rights and the rights of peaceful assembly and rights to political asian in nigerian is override in provision privatized stability of prioritize mitigating or minimizing sort of disruption to the country and so these provisions were actually introduced by military declarations miniature acts in the ridge leaders and a lot of these things have actually been passed into the nights nights so looking for remedies to this fisk repression of political dissent within the nigerian constitution. Itself is actually a futile exercise. However negeria is state parties cape a lot of international treaties agreements exist in a world where there's north instead become crystallized over time that meant to protect human rights in the individual agreement injury as pocket to is the room that which essentially establishes international criminal prosecution and protects the rights of citizens especially citizens so they're protesting peacefully. Now even let me difficult to propose political reform domestically. Niger is still constrained. But provision up to robes Until going into a peaceful protests up with meditated aid of shooting thou protesters with live ammunition goes against his grave violation of the room. Statistics that is why people have cold for national criminal investigation again. Like the nigerian constitution. International criminal investigation isn't something that can effectively deterred a government carrying them for precipice titties. As matter of fact is carried out much more grievous violations of the In recent years heard a buckle haram the terror deterrent organization in northeastern major when butter haram disintegrated into a full blown insurgency. Many parts of northeast injury puts under emergency legislation under state's emergency and according to amnesty international Lot of society organizations in humanitarian organisations the ground that would bring violations carried out against human rights of not bystanders sympathizers. Took around and face of it. It doesn't seem like a big deal those award Insurgency but why is it permitted that a government can some early execute in flattened villages that they suspect of being sympathetic to the political aim. Cement insurgent group take an active potent insurgency. And if there's a suspicion perhaps people have the right look. Perhaps they do have the rights to face. You process it. The rights to be investigated through judicial system. It shouldn't be that the states can go in there and carry out. Extra-judicial killings international criminal court at least since the twenty fifteen almost once every year has had a reason to open preliminary investigations into the niger government but the thing about international criminal court is that the principle of complementarity this principle states that a must be unwilling or unable to prosecute crimes against humanity for that states to debbie under the jurisdiction of the international criminal court. I didn't i dream. Government has recognized that in a in the carrying out of the described many they are liable to be placed under took jurisdiction of guys. You see but also found a way to evade jurisdiction by opening internal investigations into these headings income. In in say it's allegedly soldiers killed three thousand people which is very close to what happened to bagga novice. Major government could say we are going to look into this. We've opened investigations. And we are going to prosecute these soldiers who are hours for these crimes carried out at that point. The government has demonstrated a willingness to prosecute crimes against humanity and so they invaded international criminal courts jurisdiction and does provision as sort of funnel where the international criminal court can then make a decision on the basis of the outcome of the investigation. Did nigerian cars up with an i drink up in has done since two thousand fifteen. Stay open investigation. They opened a clothed investigation. Burnt this no independent observers and then they have findings that they do not circulate to the international community and these findings recomendations prosecution recommendations for sanctions against Out but we've noticed after recommendations are reached conclusions of reach. Nobody actually gets prosecuted for this crimes against humanity. Injury as efficiently found a way to evade isis restriction by literally during things the carpet and so when we look at answers and the killings of protesters in twenty twenty does a very clear trajectory. This occurred where nigeria has now. Cond- internal investigations into sheets as it occurred at the toll gates in october but was a those a bunch to the nigerian government's gathered and that was that these investigations were meant to be closed to anyone who wanted to testify at the investigations had to sign a nondisclosure agreements. And there was no press to be allowed then. This discovery led to more. More protests announced measuring government has waived the requirement to sign a nondisclosure agreements in order to take part in the internal investigation. So the bbc cnn. Another international news agencies are now following this very closely help whether or not the governor will be held accountable for the very first time What has been incredibly time for crimes instrumental but perhaps the outcome of shoots and the global outcry created. Mike begin to shift the militarized culture national security strategy of nigeria tour. What we all hope become a human security focused strategy. That's i mean. The it was in an extremely thorough in verbal explained a synthesis of happening with regards to to to nigeria anita. You've pointed to quite a few things in particular. One of the things that stood out to me was was the fact that the police force was is still influenced by colonial past. And i can't help. I know it's like three these investigations that that still exist very british tactic too. So say we're gonna hold these investigations. Oh by the way if we really and we can re will redact a lot of honor and so to me. It seems like nigeria as well as many other places in in in the global south haven't essentially figured out a form of democracy that actually works post colonialism. And how how does nigerian moved from. Here is nigeria. How do how do you reform this instead. It's breaking spotting made because nigeria not to learn in retaining very efficiently. Another day repressive tactics serve tech inherited from colonial times. But i must say that many countries in the global south. What major is essentially a contraption territorial contraption that forces very different nations and tribes of necessities to co exist without the option of developing nation states and the way that they've been organically developed in europe from the fifteenth to the seventeenth centuries. This just something. Very primal about the connection between ethnicities and the nation state. I'm open development of nation states in its fourteen years and so in a win wars Between fifteen to seventeen century on near they carried out in ways that created as a byproduct many of the administrative functions that we now see the state provided today in order to wing towards local local barons leaders had to find a way to effectively mobilize individuals within their territories and organiz them in ways that they'll be an efficient fighting force they also have to find ways to economically sustain their efforts to in order to expand guitar trees noted gingrich was and so this is how the system of taxation system levy systems organized armies organically devel- developed over hundreds of years. And you states. That survived such as friends prussia in the united kingdom british empire but we also had states that never survived such as burgundy now known as a curler as but in the case of many of the countries in the global south defeats determine for them during the scramble of africa. When put is which tore in far away lands and berlin and in a these borders for them t be enforced as some territories where these different ethnic and tribal somehow to find a way to then creates a national identity. The wasn't under basis ethnicities tribes kinship without the option to perhaps create new state entities. Perhaps much more reflected date ideological Ethical ethnic goals of particular people's. Niger is a contraption of hundreds of distinct nations. Now we can't oppose the redrawing territory borders in the global south because countries have been established and they now have you recognition on this the principle of sovereignty inbound -bility order. Any attempt to bring up a country is seen as a succession. This attempt ultimately always leads to civil war. Buff difficulty with that said surely the is still possible surely still done and life with even if there's an initial phase of war initial phase in in some kind of an uprising wherever surely things live at some point is that across the is worth making so yes i was a patented initial phases order these countries pap to essentially skipped advocates in any sorts of conflict As a means now but yes we expected these things should level off overtime so nigeria. Today for example is demographically different Forty years ago interethnic marriages lots of people. That just tell you a major in because that is from this trip owns from this Goes on three generations so they don't have such an attachment to ethnic allegiances anymore. There's also the spread of education and awareness about the importance of political ideology. And how that is an overriding actor in determining and negotiated a National destiny and so countries like niger. Have to invest very heavily in political processes. That exist in jamaica much more equitable fair and representative of the science of opinions and put its cooling. Colations exists addendum. Violent repression from central governments. Consider autograph ago isn't actually moving the needle in a positive direction in the sense that this atmosphere fear repression and a few expressing political dissent is actually harming this organic development of a much more representative inclusive society communist express diplomat quote grievances peacefully house. The democratic process expected to work in the officiant sense. And that's one side of the debate. These countries have to figure out ways enhanced. Police caucasian over time. The second set of debate is that a lot of these central governments to hold power in lots of third world. States are still perpetuating a patron client. Relationship with former colonial masters so nigeria from one is still heavy entangled with the united kingdom largest trading partner over sixty percent of its oil exports. Make it to the united kingdom. Why is this considering the competitive options over this interest. Continue to perpetuate the french treatment of british interests within nigerian territory. And so we've had governments over time. Continue to offer concessions especially with reserves to the united kingdom's a but in return what this former colonial masters offered. The central governments is dylan. Jeopardy of power is stability of their and this is where the arms trade comes in now. Given that sars own these other military units have engaged in human rights violations against rituals. You would expect that. Perhaps a country of the united kingdom or european countries would refrain from continually arming. The government's that used his arms kill their citizens. Matter-of-fact they are constrained binal to nutso obser- countries like nigeria. If they have any indication that there's a risk of these arms are being used against civilians gets in the arms trade treaty in articles. Six and seven or six point. Three explicitly states that states. Party to the treaty ca export is see is a continuation of exports regardless of the cost. Because these former colonial Rosters countries understand how important the provision of these arms to these tests are for the for the continuation of preferential treatment and preferential access to be solicitors or have africa so leban- dynamic where first of all national security poorly interpreted is stifling democratic process but national security in its poor of probation still being assistant by foreign powers because it's foreign power to provide the tools to rich. The central governments can multiply the use of force. The more efficient weapon system is the the more you can multiply forced more. You repress any sort of political dissent and the development of democratic processes in the federal and the austrade are achieved intimately interlinked for example from the one point nine trillion spent in which expenditure steer around fifty one million pieces of small arms and light. Weapons are in circulation in africa and the largest exporters of arms to africa or the united states fronts russia the united kingdom than serbia in china a notable importance is france's involvement in the united kingdom enrollment because they have been developments of go contraptions within the eu that supposed to make the export of archie these countries much more efficient european defense for example which went largely unnoticed in the public eye is meant to be heavy. Multi investment into research and development to make oz production much. More efficient france's been spearheading. That's with the back to africa has been an exponential increase of the number of being exploited year-on-year to africa since two thousand one and that number almost doubled from twenty fourteen to twenty fifteen and there's also been lots of correlation between the pump in the box to africa and the propensity for violence conflict. Fifty one million number above talk to you about before christian back to you. How many of these arms you'd think a controlled by states of fifty one million a I hope that that is a large amount. If it was a reasonably run state in africa state parties account for the eleven million despoilers wins which means by the non-state parties regional regional groups political organizations are militias and individuals. Hold forty million weapons in africa so then begs the question his his senate the actually now. Over ninety percent of the weapons in private ownership in africa today or from state stockpiles over ninety percent in most of the weapons found in south sudan between twenty seven and twenty sixteen. We're actually sent fronts to code our then re-exported them to sow to them and they wanna should serve disperses when when gun leads once. The patron had their two to eleven. France exploiting its weapons quotas flea will. That must be a statement in its export licenses for the end user at the mt soliciting explicitly stated who the end users. And what empties might be. The onus is on fronts to determine fire elaborate frisk analysis that this end user is going to be fact of the empty certain and use and francis as aware as many other. Researchers aren't view that there is this whole dynamic of diversion through national starbucks into the hands of private militias in private organizations. But they still continue to send these weapons and are able to much. More efficient. Waste make the production. I mean i mean. I'm sure your states. Uk france italy and only states. That do so. I'm sure like they don't The legal requirement is some bullshit. They've come up with of cover themselves. Proposed that hey look. We've done our. We're just selling to another state. And how much of the is. How much of how much of what they say is legal. Actually holding way very little very very little. Because for example i'm straight treats requires that before any exports the risk analysis carried out should be an analysis of the trends abuse. So not just how could've are for example utilized Twenty fourteen now. They're looking at is a look at. How do they each less in the past ten years. So you where did Benchley is still part of france requirements for example the united kingdom isn't a state today t that blatantly violates It's article six applications. We often hear about the uk arm inside the these arms being used in. There's been at least four. High profile cases brought against the united can discovering wherein they were required to answer for why they continued the exports to saudi arabia in light of cranston instant that occurred on the united kingdom continues to maintain its risk assessments. Do not lead to the conclusion that it's going to be used by saudi arabia for the commission for crimes in yemen the godless of international red cross opinion international opinion intense. Like who's gonna hold the states accountable by the thing is it's like taking that aside. Take this this league will drive inside on me that these states who should be our expectation or should we be managing our expectations about the role of these governments. And how act actually. They are essentially organized. Pau taking part in very organized crime in the aleph example the british openly sending To saudi arabia he explicitly. You know have bombed yemen into oblivion. They bumped feminity him. And so should we be looking at the picture with of you know reality check actually holding we know this is a little shit and and we need to change our tone an hour an and how we discussed this issue so i think it's important to have both an optimistic unrealistic assessment of the situation in the first place having a realistic assessment of Which expected to have really enables us to understand what the specific interests are. The drive states that the u. k. or elect france to make these heinous decisions by mcclair understanding of these interests than people that utilize the conclusions of these of this understanding Target their activism towards these interests right hand. We must have an optimistic outlook in up. Even though the states of violating the letter of the law. today it must be continuous pressure. Being put the must be continuous pressure. Put on them to ensure that they obliged to international norms and lewis have explicitly signed up to if he decides only take realistic interest. Centric power Approach to license situation. Who's gonna hold. The state's morally accountable must remain a record that there is a moral obligation in addition to the leaker location for the to improve the behavior. Absolutely i'm on with that so of to activism. Can you give us a bit of a background. How you got involved with the accused him that your conduct in. I got votes in activists activism because of the completions. Mary search Saying in coming from a national security background is quite odd that up engaged in control activism Because of the culture of national security studies that is supposed to take this cold calculated wrestling approach to stick know if national security. he's about efficiently protecting citizens within a particular state than how national security is provided is just as important so if a national security is provided by the ministry means is inefficient and actually haunted the state that we must consider other alternatives to provide a national security focusing on human security on the threat. Matrix that individual human experiences mixed. I wonder standard actually held security food security what security a are much more important determines oft efficiency of the progressive national. That's a really interesting point. The fact that national security is synonymous with terrorism and weapons. In you know more how come you know. There's no mention of food security and health security and all that kind of so please. Yes answer precisely national security has been hijacked by militaristic the standard and the individual human has been left out deprioritize revenue and this is because National security over time has been coach accepted as rushing out to purchase more than has become synonymous with the decision to go to war has also become synonymous with secrecy as a win. States are avoiding accountability and they invoke national security as a reason why the contemplates conveniently for states take avoid accountability and different states around the world have learned this understood this incoporated this very limited militaristic on stem the national security as militaristic and so they've continue to perpetrate fat because it's convenient for retention of power so we have oh terrorism for example we care about the war on terror for example we look to terrorist occurrences that have happened. The world overwrought Country if we look at a loss of life that has occurred from terrorist. Incidents contrast that to the loss of life have occurred that has occurred from medical practice any calendar for example who practice go any other car accidents or other threats by far outweigh terrorism as predominant lost the predominant threats to human life but states still pray omi tires the terrorists and the anti-terrorist narrative because of something cold securitization in the sense that when a state wants to enjoy much more free reign to exercise their power over particular issue what been noticed in international securities that states begin a process of securitisation so they points to a particular subset of the population for example say bird this particular religion that much more threatening to the saints these particular languages these particular orientations agenda giese also threatening only to prioritize in deal with this before it destroys everything as the escalating label the term security issue in order for it to be given priority within the place co processes and so we'll talk about terrorism acts national security accent even the prevents strategy can these are ways in which these results of the securitization of subsets people. Now isn't an interesting that when we talk about terrorism the almost instant synonymous the almost instant association will make his islamist terrorism. This is as a result the targeted political a attachment of the religion itself to tactic of warfare. That has been used by very many groups over the years so for example there's been many terrorists occurrences in the united states have been carried out by white individuals or pride nationalist organizations but it never cold terrorist attacks. They're called lone-wolf attacks or they're blamed the psychological health of the individual to carry out never necessarily labeled with the terrorists and they just goes to show that national security and by extension the content of terrorism can be his routine politically charged their benefits to to security on something and take it out of the royal normal politics so that they stink this security giants an issue such as terrorism can now deal that issue outside the public guy this luckily national security so they'll have to divulge information with regards up to that a. That's a really really fantastic. Way of of breaking down national security as a as a as an overarching seem so tell us more about the campaign that that is a bit so the campaign. the fleas weapons campaign essentially is a recognition that perhaps we need to look a lot more at human security of individuals and so this year as world became much more aware of the dangers posed by the covid nineteen pandemic The un secretary general kofi for a global cease fire told conflict in the world because of of the emerging carruthers because of the dangers. That were foreseeing from the digital for him. As a result of the current ivars and so upon the general's co for global ceasefire team in iot scrapped. Weapons in sodas carried out research misr. God's what's google ceasefire would mean for our preparedness to respond to a global pandemic such covid nineteen discovered. Looking at military expenditure the world had overwhelmingly funded. Military's a matrix Every time and significantly underfunded provisional healthcare instead something like almost two trillion dollars spent on rachel expenditure in two thousand nineteen figure which is over six hundred times the budgets of the world health organization. And we thought this relationship was quite significant because in in the face of limited resources for state perhaps were in human security. They will take the threats that this virus possessed individuals as much more significance because of the potential loss of bladder though they were and they would fund these initiatives on front healthcare infrastructure in order to reflect on the standard. But as we've seen states have not only continued to spend on military expenditure also still left healthcare infrastructure. Pretty much the way. It is states than focused on finding a up or a needed solutions to. The fire's completely flattened or completely unmitigated. Were to find leithauser to be the emergence of another virus. so states have focused on big former. After just introduction product seen healthcare structure is still significantly underfunded over to work. And so what if what happens if we get a cookie or a completely different virus. That completely bypasses protection back would provide will be back in the same situation. Were screaming in the beginning of this year. So recorded on states to actually fared Actually diverts focus spending the has purchased military expenditure and utilized that diverts to enhance the healthcare infrastructure in many ways the freeze campaign essentially show states gives a lot of examples. Search states can father to divest in expenditure into healthcare provision an absence court. Freeze campaign is a legal campaign in will in the sense that we are proposing that states can take the first step into divesting for military expenditure into health care. Expenditure posing the production trade supply of weapons for as long as it takes to be able to invest in boss healthcare infrastructure until the freeze campaign. Has something called freeze. Moratorium which is illegal legal text states can other five to end to a pause the waste of a fun signature expenditure actually free up resources to best things like the for example the united kingdom put the campaign. We reached out to the united nations secretary. General we stay. The pope reach touch with lots of civil society. Organizations are included the women's international league for peace and freedom and along support for this initiative and said now knowing The political support from from these different quarters without pishin these legal texts in different countries for parliamentarians and for advantaged to table in punishments states can begin to figure out ways of wasn't wasn't this expenditure weapons actually looking at waste both their our resilience to the potential Twenty over future virus med. I'm wondering how did you guys do do some kind of like an economic muddling about the the impact have on economy to help. But think okay. We we stop 'cause chris. One of the major arguments about the look was the whole the why we shouldn't be looking down what we should've done is we have had increased capacity in hospitals so regardless of how many people infected still you know seventy seven hospitals so economically speaking the freeze on on these entrees and the increasing the capacity ultimately lead to an economy that continues to go without having all these poses. So i'm wondering. Did you guys mobile this anyway. We didn't do the initial modern precisely because they have been so many different models that the point you've raised which is much more robust healthcare infrastructure much more robust governance on stretchers have overwhelmingly positive effect on the overall health of an economy as opposed to developments in miniature expansion and so is it a reinventing the wheel try to translating system research many of which are well known by states authorities. Translate these into thank justice information for the general public to understand because without pressure on the general public it will be possible to get the states to consider the outcome of these research. And you're writing again by highlighting the perhaps or lack of preparedness for condemning such as this dire economic impact on on the united kingdom for example because countries like sweden which have significantly invested in their healthcare capacity. They never had to look down. A never had never critical capacity of towards because there was surplus what he's adequate healthcare infrastructure in place. So they have to shutdown. They suffered very minimal economic interruption in comparison with the rest of the eu and in a life continue to go walk in sweden. The associated cost the pandemic. Which is a massive spike in mental health issues domestic spike in domestic violence which recorded in the uk or these things were not recorded industry because infrastructure was already in place therefore looked not necessary therefore the physical and mental challenges facing individual Lockdown did not manifest intuitive There were seeing the united kingdom put all intellect at the end of the absolutely on the. Where can people find your line upset. We can confined the teen at scraped. Weapons dot com and you can find me at elimidate. Diy that's out a deal for a my personal Company does we have links directly to the freeze weapons campaign on our original research. Said definitely check us out and back on how people could be oil helps support the the freeze campaign. The support from individuals and organizations was overwhelming. I think the most impactful type of support that we sharing on its aerial engaging with the material insuring it on weather. Audience is a translate to the campaign material Took our genetic research Even more infographics we have some were lobbying parliamentarian politician introduce prisoner. Return year such as a idiom nine eight four in the uk house of coverage of this record snow snowball. That was the most important that we received a fantastic to see that people get behind this organizations in different places especially because this is such a universal issue. It's reading interesting to see that. So i definitely anyone listening to to get behind. This is a campaign. that's not a very human campaign is high. It's about humanity as opposed to an individual put political of such so. I think amazing that you guys do an end. We'll definitely do everything in our politics to support a thank you so much for joining me. It's been a pleasure. I can like honestly. I have learn so much from him in the bus. Our oh you've been fantastic. Thank you so much for having me. And i must definitely give you guys a shallow. It's it's amazing to work. Doing on translates such valuable research work that's been carried out an For the way to the. I think it's it's really incredible. Work you to up dependence. Thanks i just like to take a moment to kind of remind you guys to subscribe to our show an oprah cost platforms and youtube as well as instagram. You can find all these links on. Www dot the no-show dot net. Join us today. Be part of the research revolution.

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Hurricane Sally Threatens Gulf Coast With Rapidly Strengthening Winds and Severe Flooding

TIME's Top Stories

08:25 min | 7 months ago

Hurricane Sally Threatens Gulf Coast With Rapidly Strengthening Winds and Severe Flooding

"This podcast is brought to you by consumer reports standing for truth fairness and what's right for consumers consumer reports has been on your side. Since nineteen thirty, six with information you can trust own home, auto food, health, tech money, and more learn more at CR dot org slash consumer. Hurricane Sally Threatens Gulf coast with potentially historic flooding by Stacey pleasants and Janati. McConnell hey of the Associated Press Wavelength Mississippi. Hurricane Sally one of four storms churning simultaneously in the Atlantic closed in on the Gulf coast on Monday with rapidly strengthening winds of at least a hundred miles per hour one, hundred, sixty, one kilometers per hour and heavy rain as forecasters warned of potentially historic flooding and governors declared states of emergency. This low moving storm was forecast to brush the southeastern tip of Louisiana and then blow ashore late Tuesday or early Wednesday. Near the Mississippi Alabama State Line the National Hurricane Center said Hurricane Warnings stretched from Morgan. City Louisiana to Navarra Florida. President Donald Trump issued an emergency declaration for parts of Louisiana and Mississippi on Monday an action that authorizes veteran emergency officials to coordinate disaster relief efforts and provide emergency assistance to the affected areas. Alabama Governor K V asked the president to do the same for her state after the National Weather Service in mobile warned of the increasing likelihood of dangerous and potentially historic flooding. The Weather Service forecast that waters could rise as much as nine feet. Two point seven meters above ground in large parts of the mobile metro area with a population of four hundred, thousand people. It is the largest metro area along the Gulf coast between New Orleans and Tampa Florida. Some businesses and mobile placed sandbags at their. In preparation. Florida governor run Santa's declared a state of emergency in the panhandles westernmost counties Escambia and Santa Rosa as the hurricanes outer bands began to lash the area all along the storm weary Gulf coast residents rushed to buy bottled water and other supplies ahead of the hurricane which powered up to a category two in the afternoon forecasters said sustained winds could reach one hundred, ten miles per hour one, hundred, seventy, seven kilometers per hour just below category three strength by landfall. Seawater and sand swept onto roads on one end of Dauphin, island off the coast of Alabama washing away several cars, Dolphin, island mayor, Jeff. Collier said, he said about a dozen people had to be evacuated by Humvee in coastal Mississippi water spilled onto roads. And Ducks, well, before the storm's arrival, all twelve casinos were ordered to shut down Monday afternoon and Governor Tate. Reeves. Urge residents of low-lying areas to prepare to evacuate. This is the real deal and it deserves your attention reeves wrote on twitter be smart prepare for the worst pray for the best he said Reeves said Sally could dump up to twenty inches fifty. One. Centimeters of rain on the southern part of the state shelters opened but officials urged people who are evacuating to stay with friends or relatives or in hotels if possible because of the corona virus, the town of Kiln Mississippi with many homes sit high on stilts along the Jordan River and its tributaries was under a mandatory evacuation order and it appeared most residents obeyed. It would be dumb to stay here said Michael Mac McLaughlin seventy two a retiree who planned to ride out the storm in. New Orleans, with his girlfriend, he said his home was built in two thousand fourteen to withstand hurricanes. But I just don't WanNa be here when the waters that deep and be stranded that wouldn't be smart. Jeremy Burke lifted things off the floor in case of flooding in his bay books. Bookstore in the old town neighborhood of Bay Saint Louis a popular weekend getaway from new. Orleans about sixty miles. Five kilometers to the West it's into a ghost town he said. Sally has lots of company during what has become one of the busiest hurricane seasons in history. So busy that forecasters of almost run through the alphabet of names with two and a half months still to go for only the second time on record forecasters said, five tropical cyclones swirled simultaneously in the Atlantic Basin at one point on Monday. The last time that happened was in nineteen seventy-one. In addition to Sally were Hurricane Paulette, which passed over a well-fortified Bermuda on Monday and was expected to peel harmlessly out into the North Atlantic and tropical storms, Rene Teddy and Vicki, all of them out at sea and unlikely to threaten land this week if at all rene was downgraded to a trough of low pressure Monday evening. Sally was about one hundred, thirty, five miles two, hundred, seventeen kilometers south of below occc Mississippi on Monday night moving at six miles per hour nine kilometers per hour. The hurricanes luggage pace could give it more time to drench the Mississippi Delta with rain and storm surge storm surge warnings stretched from Port for John in Louisiana to the lines between Okaloosa and Walton counties in Florida also included lakes pontchartrain more PA and born in the New Orleans area and Mobile Bay in Alabama Sally was moving west northwest Monday night, but forecasters expected it to turn slightly east people in. New. Orleans. Worried that Sally would pose the latest test for pumps used in the low lying cities century old drainage system. In eastern New Orleans drainage canals were lowered in anticipation of torrential rains mayor La Toya Cantrell said, new. Orleans. Police went on twelve hour shifts and rescue boats, barricades, generators, and other equipment were readied police. Superintendent Sean. Ferguson said. On August Twenty Seventh Hurricane Laura blew ashore in southwestern Louisiana along the Texas line well west of New Orleans tearing off roofs and leaving large parts of the city of Lake Charles. Uninhabitable the storm was blamed for thirty two deaths in the two states, the vast majority of them in. Louisiana. More than two thousand evacuees from Hurricane Laura remained sheltered in. Louisiana. Most of them in New Orleans Area Hotels Governor John Bel Edwards said the extraordinarily busy hurricane season like the catastrophic wildfire season on the West, coast has focused attention on the role of climate change scientists say global warming is making the strongest of hurricanes those with wind speeds of one hundred, ten miles per hour or more even stronger. Also warmer air holds more moisture making storms. Rainier and rising seas from global warming makes storm surges. And more damaging. In addition scientists have been seeing tropical storms and hurricanes slow down once they hit the United States by about seventeen percent since nineteen hundred and that gives them the opportunity to unload more rain over one place as to seventeen hurricane harvey did in Houston.

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Navidad y el grito de esperanza

Venezuela: Crisis y Esperanza

20:37 min | 4 months ago

Navidad y el grito de esperanza

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Canadian baseball legend Fergie Jenkins reflects on his career

The Current

24:55 min | 20 hrs ago

Canadian baseball legend Fergie Jenkins reflects on his career

"From cbc podcasts and the fifth estate brainwashed is a part investigation into the cia experiments in mind control from the cold war and m. k. Ultra to the so-called war on terror. We learn about a psychiatrist who used his patients as human guinea pigs. And what happens when the military and medicine collide. Listen to brainwashed on the cbc. Listen up or wherever you get your podcasts. This is a cbc podcast. If you know baseball you know fergie jenkins. He was the first canadian inducted into baseball's hall of fame. A cy young winner for best pitcher in the national league nineteen seventy-one and a twenty game winning pitcher for seven seasons including six consecutive seasons for the chicago cubs. Now at seventy eight years. Old for jenkins has another honor to add to that list. The chicago cubs have announced plans to erect a statue of him outside the iconic wrigley field. Joining four other players ferguson. Jenkins good morning. I'm well congratulations on this. I beg your how they tell you. We're going to erect a statue of you. Well zoom interview with the coast and mr ricketts. The owner of the team Broken and he said ferguson. we're gonna wreck statute. Can i have your permission to do it. I should go right ahead. Well i mean aside from giving him permission. What was your reaction well. I was surprised that he would come on. And let me know in this type of format but it Once it hit me. I was happy with the fact that they're going to do. What does it mean to you. Well you got three other teammates. Billy williams ron sound ernie banks and hurry banks. That room alive were roommates. The last few years playing from sixty seven to sixty nine. So you know it's just the something that Kick now because the vacuum retired my number ten years ago and now statue they're going to wreck the to twenty two opening day and i'm looking forward to that. I want to take you down memory lane marking a couple of big moments in your baseball career. Take a listen to this temple. Strike out of his career arena. Goes down swinging ten gig baseball under the out of his teammates coming out to shake his hand a historic moment for chicago cubs. Baseball standing jenkins. Tell me about that moment. Well as in san diego navi to come back to the cubs of the situation happened a it wasn't alarming. Because i was looking forward to it i needed like three or four strikeouts to get three thousand game before i had a light and lost her one to beat the dodgers in our in san diego Eight almost surprising that the lineup of that they had some pretty the bars and alvarez surprise some of the power. Here's they tried to. But they didn't want to strike out. A templeton was a leadoff hitter. Came up back in the in the fourth. Or if you didn't try to swap through a couple of pitchers and then basically was laid on a on a fastball. But i was really surprised. The situation happened Like anything in baseball you. You're looking forward to it happening and boom there. It is surprised. Everybody cheers for you of His emptied players come out on. Shake my hand on the back. You know the end result is that we gotta get out of business again over. I wanna play something else this Features one of your teammates. The final pitch in and a storm came in one score. Pathetic bail are very good. I really william as his tremendous home run. Right center broke the one one deadlock and gave the cubs. Two one victory on opening day in ten innings. What was so special about that game while i was a by teammates billions. Hit the home run against an opponent that was out of the individual. I i enjoyed pitching bob gibson and saint louis cardinals and opening day in nineteen seventy one was was historic because the fact that We ended up really really playing well and year and i ended up winning. Cy young won twenty four games that year. But as i said bob gibson and i hooked up rally over a dozen times and even the against me and the cubs. That was a season when you went on to keep your string of twenty win seasons which is remarkable. When you think about it. I mean how do you understand that consistency. And that ability to pitch at that level over so many seasons be consistent. You have to work hard at. And i try to stay in his boots shape. It's possible retraining. At just the elapsed and opening up first game against One of our nemesis fables colonels our division so. I was looking forward to him. That leo had already told me. Probably nine or ten days prior What brings on be the opening day pitcher in chicago. So let's get prepared what it's all about. And you know who you're gonna face and i knew who my opponent was going to be it's going to be baptist and so i was prepared in that situation. How do you look back on those big moments in your career. I mean what is it like to go into the time machine and think about and hear those moments. I've kind of related some of the thanks to my kids that i had a chance to face some of the best opponents in baseball in the sixties and seventies part of the eighties and Not any of this opportunity was easy yet. Work at there was You know homework to do learning some of the new hitters. That are coming in the league and the cardinals had a at an older veteran. Ballclub was brought flood carver shannon so many guys that were established players and they knew me. I knew them so the battle was for vida tied bogging and by lineup was simone. We had ron santo. Ernie banks williams kensinger. Becker guys were veterans to so os veteran ballclub against another veteran ball club so to win a ball game opening day. You had to have your act together. And when i look back at it i enjoyed every part of the challenge. Because that's what baseball's all about. It's a challenge to start to start month to month or year to year. Pretty lonely out there on the mound. I mean you're part of a team but you it's on you in many ways. How did you deal with fire. The game iran hunting. And i have of a i think a study that we go over the hitters and hoping that things that we go over the end result is our game plan is going to work and believe me. A lot of time to gain. Clans were successful because rain night. Study and i. I didn't shake off a whole lot. And what i did. I came right back to same pitch. What was it like the pitcher. Yankee stadium outstanding. I couldn't wait. But i got traded to the texas rangers and seventy four. They were revamping. The old yankee stadium so we had to plan shades stadium so seventy five. By first game. I had a pitch gins catfish hunter. I went to the ballpark game starts at seven. Five other the ballpark is works. So i just walked around the stands. What bone field just took it for a me. Is yankee stadium. Because i had never cooked before. He pitched against mickey yes. They did it all start competition. What was that like. My first all star game was an online and he was a shooter in the third inning when relieved one marriage show and i think it was pretty pretty sure don't toy was the catcher timeout at called waller austin came out of the dugout. Now i'm the i'm the pitcher on the mound and and had come up to hit. Don't you all yes i know but all you want to start off. Let's go right after basketball and atoll start. I had a lot of adrenaline. That day all star game so believe me. I was Up for the challenge. How do you think the game has changed since then. I mean the names of players that you're reciting and your own name mean. These are people that we grew up listening to that we grew up thinking about. How is the game changed since then. The horse teams the sicily's new ballparks equipment. I just think that it's a good for the game of baseball. What when i played there might be a player. Might get a one or two year contract now. These contracts her chad twelve thirteen year contracts. They're locked in for the rest of their plan. Corey but the to look back. So many things. The number of players of makes of jays. There's no more mickey mantle vertical mattie. Willie mays hank aaron colfax drysdale seaver myself Carlton lot of these players are young. And they're all considered superstars. I played against superstars. My career one was willie. Mays and the second was roberto clemente in the national league. Those are the two ultimate players one on one. When i was playing and now there's dozens of superstars and i'm not sure if they're ready to considered a superstar the planes equipped or good assets and they really play well a that. I would have loved to have faced our pools with the cardinals and now he's with the angels. He's at the end of his career over six hundred bronze you know homer hitters are always a challenge to get if you make a mistake. Ed result they win the battle. Funded believe me. The battles are fun. Hi i'm josh. Block host of uncover escaping nexium from. Cbc podcasts. I pull back the curtain on the secret of self help group. That experts call a cult and follow one woman's harrowing journey to get out. The podcast was featured in rolling stone magazine and named one of the podcasts of two thousand eighteen in the atlantic listen to uncover escaping nexium on. Cbc listen or wherever you get your podcasts. Only to use one. Small man giant wheel. Kat but i do wish to say official that. I'm wrongfully imprisoned right now. Uncover season seven dead wrong actually killed tipple. He suggests ninety nine available on. Cbc listen and wherever you get your podcasts. Let me ask you playing in the sixties when you were playing for chicago and the phillies in the nineteen sixties. I mean racism was still a huge part of the game. And there were times when you're on the road and you weren't even able to stay in the same hotel Some of your teammates. What are you remember about that time. Well that's something that changed. I came up in fifty five the bill of rights fashion for some of my life's in the big leagues it wasn't was bad of thing that That was a big problem as maybe eating at certain restaurants in certain cities Maybe cincinnati maybe atlanta at type thing but we we got over that billion i- ernie and george open. We hung around together a lot. We used to eat together. Guys would get used as certain cities restaurants go to so we didn't change the pattern long times maybe in the mornings we'd have room service neutral lead around to thirty prior to the game so it was always an extra to wanna do to fraternize and go to so but you felt comfortable i. I never felt pressured in in the major leagues of the viollis. Little different i came up in the southern league and then with knoxville and make georgia and then what i played for little rock to callum was along marcelin lopez which akito players color animation. Cuban american canadian and it was somewhat different on the road Stay in certain hotels eating. I mean the pincus hang. Was you enjoy playing. The game felt safe on. Feel or the game's over or we'd what hotel day. So you know he stayed with your plays and and and that was the part of the game as a canadian. How do you think those experiences shaped you. Oh jeez the first time it happened. I was in miami florida and you read about it in abor and now you're exposed to. We couldn't go to miami beach. We stayed sir. John hotel which was stop this game. Boulevard in cuban neighbor cuban black neighbor them so and then the bus trips always drought way bus and we had to go to a petersburg or tampa or black before and we had to give our bill money. Some of the white players got off. Got us whatever we have the and then they brought it back to the bus to us it all change. It's just part of People just part of the page in the book and the book totally written the book for you starts in chatham ontario And again. I mean the story of you picking up baseballs a fascinating one. How did you end up in that game rather than hockey. Well your was. The area scout ended up scouting me and and then converting from a first baseman pitcher at a pretty good arm. And he fought the I should utilize that ability on the mound. Not planning the enfield. The hockey end of it was was was important to as a kid growing all. I thought bob was playing in the. Nhl it all the montreal. Canadians were our might my favorite team and toronto quiz but Gene is your mind about hockey and become rather easy because i worked at a zoning scouts from other teams detroit pittsburgh were looking at cleveland and the chicago cubs fan but when i signed with the phillies i said maybe this is the opportunity now. Fresh lashley. Let's see if i have is going to carry me further on through the mire leaves. When did you realize you were good. At the age of seventeen when i the second year of being pitcher and then i started really wanting ballgames in the chatham area in pretty fast ball curve. Ball is bad now speed. But i can throw the ball past people then. I found out that that was going to be the occupation. I was going to Performed for many many years being pitcher. What about basketball. Tell me but the harlem globetrotters well. That was a story himself. Nineteen sixty seven. I just got through winning my per year. Twenty games and lewd nozzle was the promoter armed globetrotters and they had a downtown office on michigan avenue in chicago. He comes to the ballpark. And it's late. september. I just want my twentieth game and this gentleman walking through this. There's nobody in the ballpark or take advantage practice. He's got a three piece suit on briefcase at right away. I wonder what guy with me. And he's waving at me. I'm in the outfield jagged. Smile balls so finally. I motioned over. And i went to along the left field. The sidelines were dugout further down. And i'm walking toward suppo- pen if he walked in further down and basically jank. I need to talk to you. Like that. And i said okay and said the how can i help you. It should represent a harlem globetrotters. I'm wanting to find out. Are you going back to canada. When the seasons. We'd like for you to participate the globe. It'd be the pitcher in one of the skiffs. Third quarter or metal hits a home run off each night. Madeleine lantra so. I said well i can. Home runs to her baseball. He's not give all run as a basketball medal so he wanted to know what the situation was when i was home. I said well. The season's over october i. I'll be on october third or fourth while the going to be sure about mid montreal. All three rivers in the middle of october prior to that game is coming back into town late september. We'd like to be some players. I said fine i said. Uh where's the office of soy. It gave me the address michigan having He likes to meet and fortunately it was an off day. I went down on to the office. Metal darkwa czar curly neo. Jackie jackson the hilliard. And you told me prior if you would drop sneakers insurance We like to work out with him. I can handle that no problem. I'm twenty four twenty. Five sausage. Handle that so i love basketball to play basketball high school and we went to a local gym not far from downtown area and it was. I think it was part a health club and they had a gymnasium connected to a basketball court. And i did shoot around them and it kind of felt ease playing the game because i enjoyed it all worked out and to this day. They let me enter into their world because they're entertainers and basketball. Well guys we're all americans. They could play the game of basketball and the it just seemed like would mental arc curly night when they talked to make a. We're on the same level. We're actions and you'll i about it is as i said. Let me into their world. Because they're entertainers enjoyed playing on the road front thousands thousand thousands of people and now the winter months on go kart and i did it for three seasons. Do you ever pinch yourself and just kind of like wonder how you ended up with the life that you've had you know a bit surprised a few times. I workout with saint louis blues. I got an audi- contract. And say louis and i don't pinch myself but i just think that i was the right place right time. In that era where athletes did a lot of different things That basically worked out for me. And when i look back The baseball end of i picked myself a lot of times. I really had some really successful situations based especially winning ball games. And i look back at. I really had a lot of fun. I was consistent and i stayed healthy. Which was number one aspect of the game. Staying healthy been able to pitch every four. What do we need to do in this country. To be able to create more ferguson jenkins to be able to create more elite baseball players. Coming out of this at this country another franchise in montreal. but we lost that franchise with the expos. They need to get another team. I trial is is not what this pandemic now. He can't play at home. They're playing in florida but once this think is over. I think someone needs so smart. People people with a lot of money to get another site in montreal. Build a stadium and get a franchise going again. I with two organizations. I think cat a lot of canadians. Yasser would probably cater more to baseball and hockey or basketball or soccer and that would really really enhance some more of these young canadian youngsters. Klay baseba- what do you think it's going to be like when they unveiled a statue of fund wrigley. It'll be the whole dramatic moment right where it's covered in a sheet. And then you pull down at comes already had friends. Tell me that they're going to be there. You know people that i've met through my career We're gonna be we're gonna be there when is it is while i don't know what dates can be awesome opening day thousand twenty two outside. It'd be one of the streets. i'm not sure. See the ballpark. Surprise some surrounded by or streets waveland. Sheffield acid ernie is on clark billy and ronnie are on sheffield and harry carey is on waveland so the only other streets left his ass so i'm not sure i like to be close to earning because we were roommates and billy williams and i were buddies or years phantom we together a lot billionaire and fish so it's going to be one of those streets so i'm looking forward to work. It's gonna look like i mean i don't do they come in. Somebody sits in front of you and does life like for example of you. Well they they've asked me a pose like either a follow through or a wind that person. Can you see the bitter in the background of make your standard standing. Throw the ball that that's almost to the middle of the lineup of the top of the why because my arm is up above my head of the other partisan follow through fitches already gone so i'm not sure went pose. You're gonna want us. They artists and i will probably come to a situation where it's going to be posed at bows and i'm pretty sure they can put one of those together and being an artist and it's gonna be a bronze he's going to have a tough time putting a follow through together but it it over i think would you have ever imagined that kid And chatham would end up being in bronze as you say outside to field ever in my wildest dream that i ever think that they'd there'd be a statue of silence a ballpark where basically most of my career in chicago. For ten years all day baseball be a bronze statue there in a home uniform does the other guys were in a home near to Which is white with blue pinstripes. My kids are gonna love my family league. They're looking forward to what an honor. And a real pleasure to talk to you. Ferguson jenkins thank you very much. And congratulations again about canadian baseball. Legend fergie jenkins joins us from his home in frisco texas for more. 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ENZ 232  This will Make or Break your Real Estate Business

Escaping The Real Estate Investing Newbie Zone - Make Money In Real Estate Wholesaling Properties For Quick Cash

13:27 min | 3 months ago

ENZ 232 This will Make or Break your Real Estate Business

"Welcome to episode two hundred and thirty two. You're listening to escaping the rei zone. Podcast where you'll learn the underground closely guarded secrets that will revolutionize your real estate business. This podcast is all about helping you. Exit the real estate newbies. Oh and editor financial freedom building up your real estate thrown this is escaping the rei zone podcast and now your host. Real estate investor entrepreneur world traveler and nationwide mentor. Press bruce all right guys. Welcome back to another episode of escape into rei newbies zone. I'm your host. Chris bruce and to say thank you for tuning into this week's show Apologize i am little bit under the weather For those of you that have kids. You probably understand that once that little and get sick from daycare they bring home to you and Unfortunately you have to deal with the repercussions and so that's what i'm dealing with right now. Trying to get over this little head coach but regardless we're going to keep moving forward and I want to say today. Talk about something That i believe Can make or break you. But before i get into that first off i want to say If you haven't already make sure you subscribe to this podcast that way. Once these fresh off the press will get notified of this and once you know These come ready. You'll be listen to them tune into them You can subscribe literally from were all platforms. We're on By two hymns of course We google play for you. Edge right users were stitcher. You've also subscribes to blog Escape the new beeson dot com Also if you haven't already please act you leave us is review all right. This helps us get pushed up in the rankings. Had to write a review livas five star rating or whatever star rating. You believe this podcast is and again to help push us up in the rankings. All right Now i want to say that. This podcast is spicer By a winter programs. 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It's about the person that you choose to spend your life with your partner. okay just a week ago. I had did an interview with my students that just closed a hand full of deals on their first one right they closed. Four deals are right on their first ever wholesale properties that they've ever closed up right and You know one of the things that i liked about the not to be dropping an interview russo. Be ready to check that out. Probably drop at this friday Was that they are very aligned. In what is they're looking to do with their life their passion Their mission you know. They're very wide right. And so it makes for this poll transaction right or makes for this whole business to start to evolve and start to happen right stars to come into the dreams the goals aspirations to become reality. And the reason why. because they're both align right And you're going to hear more about this as i talk about it on the interview When our release it but maybe we start to realize that some of you guys the reason i hear this all the time is the. Hey chris how do i get my partner on board right. How do i get them to believe in this real estate thing like i do and i tell them you know first off you gotta understand. Are you dating someone. are you with someone. That is more optimistic or pessimistic. You know because if they're pessimistic and this is no No shade to to your partner. But if you're optimistic and they're pessimistic. The chances of making this business work is going to be slim to none. Because you're you're both on the same path right you you not on the same wavelength. So you're going to be trying to make this thing work and as you're going through challenges and things like that your partner is going to be telling you come on now you still but what are you doing this for like i told you this not gonna work. You wasting your money. Investing time investing money into programs pro and mentorships and stuff. And it's not gonna work and like its. You're going to end up not being able to get to the level that you wanna get her close a deal or be any type of successful You know in the business because you just not on the same path. So i tell everybody make sure you choose your partner to align with your goals all right. Not just they look good. And you know they sex's good and you know whatever. The case may be respectful. You need to make sure that mentally their same waveland their saint pap now. They might not necessarily be entrepreneur driven person. And that's five belong as they support you long as they had the option mystic you know type of Of way to think that's like you then it will work. I give example might margarito. You know she never was actual nor driven right. She comes from background. Go to school for x. amount of years get a degree get a career and may fifty sixty thousand a year right but as she got with me and saw the more driven was the more i started growing business. The more things start to align and the things that. I always told her that i wanted to do start to happen for me month by month year by year. You know after. I have in our child together. She started to realize like oh shoot. Hold on you know. This is where. I need my life to be it right. She started seeing everything she's learned is not necessarily what she believes in anymore. Now you know now. She has her own women's mastermind groups. She helps with her Her partner and They they've done to far gary to do that. Everyone she has a successful podcast She has a coaching business and this was never her life which she drift of. You know when we first got together okay. But see was never pessimistic. Either right she still had the opportunity about me and my business even though she didn't get it by the time she didn't understand it but she never went against me saying that. You know you're not going to be able to do that right. Did you say you want to write a book and you want to be go bestselling author and you want to speak on this stage. You want to launch these mastermind. She never once said. I couldn't do it. She just thought it wasn't for her right. And so that's what you have to look at. Is that issue partner. Very supportive of your dreams because honestly guys. I'm telling you if they're really not there with you Is going to be a very long in hard wrote. Okay you know they say the average your average of the five hundred that you hang around the most and think about your partner's going to be one of the people that you hang around the most so they don't adapt the same things that you you taking process that you have right is going to be very very challenging. Okay and the one good thing about his. You do have someone that is on that same wavelength thinks. The same is that you could balance each other out right so if someone gets out for. The other person can say nah. Come on now. This little you know hiccup in the row right. We're going to keep going with. This is going to work out for us and you can balance each other out. You know but when you have that person that's extremely doubtful from the get-go and you're trying to be you know this person. That is very optimistic and like nah. I'm going to make it work. It's just going to end up being a very very challenging situation and was going to happen is you're probably end up giving up. It might even take your relationship down a road that you don't even want to get go to all right. I saw people break up over these things. Okay and also but those are you Don't force your partner to be a entrepreneur right. Don't even try to force them to think like you either. What you can do and this is what i did was. I gave the opportunity to see the light are i. I give opportunity. Not hey you need to be doing is hey you thinking about. We're gonna job s stupid. You know you don't wanna make anybody you know. Try to change their ways. You can only give an opportunity to see another way. And that's the difference that you gotta understand some you guys and women are literally trying to throw this down your partner's throat saying it. Is this way or the highway okay. But that's not going to get anybody to change all right. People adapt to change and people change on their own. Okay it's only thing you can do is give an opportunity to see what it is that you see and they might not see it right. They might still tell you could probably even see them. Showed them checks and say listen. This person is just like us and they just made thirty thousand dollars and they still won't see it but if you keep on giving them opportunity right they could come along. They could come around and change all right. This happened in our relationship and it happened to yours. But hey listen if there's no chance of abandoned. Listen i'm going to be honest with you. You better off either. I hate to say this either. Not even getting into this relationship means more to you or chaining your partner that might be very hard pill to swallow but is the one hundred percent truth. I've saw people literally half the lead their relationship because they realized laid on right. Hillary later on this is not the partner for me you know and and it happens sometimes in his ashamed so like i said if you love your partner if you watch a part of more than you wanted to be successful in this business. And they're not on that same path is you. You might to take another rope a life are you might want to keep focusing on what you've been focused on before you even thought about gins at his business and that's just truth for you all right guys. Hope you enjoy this episode This week again. I'm gonna be dropping a interview with my students to tell about how they close their very first four deals with one seller and different challenges hat. But got to actually do this deal. Virtually they didn't see the properties they didn't physically go and meet the seller or the buyer. Everything got closed literally from their house But you're going to see and hear about all the things that happened in the follow process and things how they got the deal and You know how again to kind of go with this. How to people right to husband a husband and wife literally aligned. There goes the same had the same vision and they made that come true With this business all right. So stay toe that dropping at this friday Guys you know my quote don't live the dream. Live your dream. I will see you on the next episode. Thanks for listening to escape. The rei newbies own podcast at www dot escaped the newbies zone dot com.

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A dark picture emerges: atrocities in Ethiopia

The Economist: The Intelligence

22:50 min | Last month

A dark picture emerges: atrocities in Ethiopia

"Does it ever seem like there's never enough time to get everything done then fidelity test some good news. You still have time to make a tax smart move before the twenty twenty tax year deadline of april fifteenth by opening and contributing to fidelity. Ira you could reduce your taxable income visit fidelity dot com slash. Ira to open an account today. Investing involves risk including risk of loss. Fidelity does not provide tax advice. Consult a tax professional regarding your specific situation. Fidelity brokerage services member nyse sipc Hello and welcome to the intelligence on economist. Radio i'm your host jason palmer. Every weekday we provide a fresh perspective on the events. Shaping your world. on china's social media apps. a new genre of post is climbing the charts criticism of capitalism. Many of the young and overworked have a disdain for the country's big businesses and it's filthy rich that all sounds a bit marxist and french authorities made the call to keep their ski resorts open but the ski lifts shut. Our correspondent goes along to see how an industry that should be in peak season his ferry and it's not an uplifting tale uh first though rumors and scattered reports of atrocities in ethiopia's northern region of tigray have been swirling for months amid a media blackout. But the picture is now starting to become clearer and evidence for war. Crimes and crimes against humanity are stacking up on sunday. America's secretary of state anthony blinken condemned the killings sexual assaults and forced removals said to have taken place in tigray and called for troops to be withdrawn. The conflict began late last year. When the region's ruling party the tigray people's liberation front or tps aleph was booted out of the federal government where it had dominated for decades has to be off. Matt has announced quote final military operation against the defiant gripe province in coming days and a statement. Mr abiy said there was a catholic devise strategy to defeat the grand people's liberation front in the regional capital makaay without harming civilians late in november. Mr abi declared victory. Over the tb l. f. An armed resistance has continued yesterday. If government rejected america's demands describing. Mr lincoln's comments as regrettable. Thousands are known to have died in the conflict and more than two million people have been displaced. The growing civil war has drawn in fighters from neighboring regions and troops from eritrea which borders tigray to the north. I'm gonna stay. International has just released a report detailing its investigation into this incident that took place in late november an accident which is one of the oldest and most famous holy cities. Tom gardner addis. ababa correspondent. Ever soldiers killed hundreds of civilians over two days. And what i'm going to stay says was retaliation for an attack by local youth on their military camp now. Amnesty says the soldiers roams around the streets of the city picking out on young men and killing them on the spot then proceeded to plunder the city essentially of everything of value survivors said that all they could see on the streets with bodies and people crying this systematic slaughter civilians and axiom may amount to crimes against humanity according to amnesty. And you say the main players in this incident or allegedly airtran soldiers right just to remind people. This conflict has drawn in a few other parties. In addition to the ethiopian federal army and two grand forces loyal to the tps laugh you also have militia security forces from may bring regional state of. Im hara which has a rivalry with the laugh and disputed territories along their border and then and this is really controversial element. You have troops from eritrea. Which since the beginning of the conflict has been fighting alongside the ethiopian army against the which has a long rivalry with as well as to whether all these parties are committing atrocities. I think based on everything we know so far. Yes but i think. Eritrean soldiers are the most widely and extensively implicated and there are allegations of other atrocities beyond. What's happened in axiom. Ever since the war began in late november we've been hearing accounts trickling out which beginners rumor clearer. Picture is slowly started to emerge. We've seen several videos that appear to show ethiopian soldiers. Standing among the bodies of civilians. They've murdered there was an investigation by human rights. Watch found. European army had shelled towns including the capital of tigray mckelway killing at least eight hundred civilians including women and children and winding back to the beginning of the war the very first atrocity we heard about was this massacre in the town of my tatra which is in western tigray near the border with the neighboring regional state. I'm harlem according to a report that amnesty published at the time most of the victims were. I'm horrors murdered by militia. Sure the ousted rulers of tigray the epl f. That was then confirmed by day. State appointed human rights commission. Here however take ryan's reflect across the border to saddam tell of attacks on civilians by them militiamen an by government soldiers in the same area for its part. What is the european government saying about all these reports so that is an important question on february. The twenty six th the ethiopian rights commission which is a state appointed or body released a statement saying that it had also conduct an investigation. And that it's key. Findings brutally corroborated those of amnesty. That's quite a significant step forward by the commission which tried two to three years ago would never have come out with a statement like that. The question though moving forward is whether the government decides to accept its findings and act on them. We have heard a lot from the prime minister's office the attorney general's office and other government agencies about accountability but so far very little indication that the government is willing to hold anyone but members of the tepe accountable for crimes committed during this conflict. More makes it even more. Complicated of course is the fact that the prime culprits in this case were eritrean. Troops can be very politically difficult for the government. Addis ababa which has been relying on these troops from eritrea relying on its relationship with the eritrean government to conduct its military operations in tigray and the last time that we spoke about this conflict just over a month ago. The other big issue seemed to be building at the time was a growing risk of famine in tigray. Is that still a concern. The risk of famine definitely still persists. There's been a bit of in terms of access for aid workers. The government is certainly keen to stress. How much it is delivering aid. However it is according to the un still restricting the movement of aid workers and there are still very limited access to large part not the majority of tigray part of the problem may well be that officials and aid workers running around the region freely and exposing further atrocities but if soldiers or officials can be proven to deliberately stopped through from reaching the hungry than that to maybe more crime and with these allegations of war crimes crimes against humanity being bandied around on the part of several of the party's here and a growing humanitarian crisis What happens next. How will this play out. Do you think well as you said several parties. All parties accused of committing war crimes and human rights violations and that underscores. One of the central problem is that neither side is anywhere. Close to backing down stepping to the table for talks and negotiations. Broadly tigray itself. It isn't stabilizing. You have pockets of stability but the un is reporting more armed incidents throughout the region in recent weeks. I think maybe we might see some more pressure from the international community in the next few weeks on specific things like humanitarian access. But i imagine that will be a game changer anytime soon. I also don't think we're going to see independent investigations war crimes anytime soon. The federal government bristles any infringement on its sovereignty as a result i think civilians will continue to suffer the brunt of the war on it. We'll see much by way of justice or accountability at least in the short time. Tom thank you very much for joining us. Jason the most popular clips on china's short video apps tend to feature as in the rest of the world. Silly gags or cute animals or both recently however a different genre has climbed the charts criticism of capitalism tie in each jo-john shindo. It's one meal. One video opens with grand statements by tech tycoons. Such as jack ma. This'll you give you your quite you assume this about how money doesn't matter told their desires to make the world a better place yet show beijing. What got my attention do. Don't just then. It cuts i laughter. And he capitalist. Rhetoric is gaining popularity online in china especially among young overworked population. Simon rabinovich is our asia economics editor and based in shanghai for the government. Though that actually has its uses. What do you mean. By anti capitalist rhetoric. What would are some examples of the biggest lightning rod as jack ma until recently. He was china's richest man. He's the founder of e commerce giant alibaba. For years he was lionized and admired in the past year. The tone has really changed when videos of him are published online. They're flooded with comments. Such as workers of the world unite. Jack mile workers are coming for you. He's far from alone. Though you know a series of big tech firms in china have come in for quite severe criticism another recent one pinball doi- a discount shopping app in early january one of its employees. A woman in her twenty s collapsed while walking home after a long overtime shift later died. That was then held up in popular debate. As the epitome of overwork facing young chinese one video came out. Titled capitalist pinged wadhwa torture. I'm not sure how to show which is essential who logan bootham until you fought team and talked about how the labor lawn china is treated like toilet paper. It's not respected. It goes beyond the company's extends to some of the elite annabel yao. Who's the daughter of the founder of hallway. The big telecoms company released a mini documentary in january to announce the start of her hoped for career has an entertainer mobile that was greeted with immense scorn online. The most popular comment when she released it on waveland a micro blogging china was that for capitalists controlling our material. Life is not enough. They also want to control our cultural life. So what do you think it is. That's driving this spike in anti capitalist sentiment. I think there's two big things number. One is a structural factor which is just the soaring level of inequality which has come over the past few decades of incredibly rapid development coupled with that is a sense of unfairness about how unreasonable work demands are tech companies. Their employees often talk about what they call the nine nine. Six culture idea that they're expected to be in the office from nine. Am to nine pm. Six days a week and then of course the proliferation of social media people can see the inequities in their face on a daily basis when the rich and famous are posting images of of their glorious life. the second factor which i think is more distinctive to china is to state the obvious that the party in charge is the communist party talks about china being a socialist market. Economy capitalists in the school system are portrayed as bad now objectively speaking. You might say that large segments of the chinese economy our capitalist by the way. It's talked about in textbooks in the way it's understood by a lot of people is that that economy is the market economy. Capitalism is something different. That's the rich getting richer that's monopolists getting ever more powerful. So there's a long anti-capitalist tradition in china. Well exactly i mean. How much does the mood of today. Have in common with the anti-capitalism of the past. There definitely are some links so you know in searching for critiques of capitalism many reach for china's own great anti capitalist mao sean kelly twenty one recent video. You have young guy hat on backwards. Praising mao for sitting capitals would like global firms make china a semi colony. But it's important to know what this wave of online marxism is not you know. There's been a strong leftist voice in chinese politics for years. Sort of a mixture of Academics and young firebrands. These are people who are much more steeped in theory published journal articles. They organized conferences. The online marxists are much less intense. If you will. Many of their appeals. See much more like kitching style or like a funny mean for example. Recently the socialist anthem. The internationale has been receiving lots and lots of clicks online. So i'd say we're not talking about the second coming of the red guards but you know there is a broad sub section of the population who thinks the economy's rigged against them and they resent the business elite but amid this discontent you you said that it has some uses for the communist party so it's clear that it doesn't want it to get too far so some leftist websites have been shut down the hint of any kind of union movement not affiliated with the party is snuffed out immediately but does beg the question. Why doesn't the party stop his online rhetoric together. And i think the reason is that it's been useful for it so recently it's been taking on some of the big tech companies like alibaba and uses this public outpouring of anger and frustration as sort of a little bit of extra wind in the sales of its campaigns regulators rounding on the big tech firms launching new anti-trust regulations holding the ipo of mas big fintech company aunt regulators have extra incentive to go after them and even extra leverage in dealing with them when they can point at the public and say look at. How about people are. But it's a fine line to walk right that the government wants these national champions to exist and at the same time seems to be okay with some people railing against them fully agreed. I mean you might look at it as a resetting of the balance so on the one hand. The party obviously wants growth. This is the biggest source of its legitimacy. It needs the tech firms to be innovative on the other hand. China is still officially a communist country. Views destabilization as the beginning of the end of the soviet union. So the rhetoric now is part of a broader effort to keep china very much tethered to its maoist heritage but not to bring it back to full on maoism for the coming months. We'll probably see a lot more of these kinds of short videos popping up online lots more criticism directed at the big tech firms. Then being reined in to a certain extent but at some point the party will have decided that it's gone far enough. It's not going to take down jack ma. It's not going to take down alibaba. Ten cent in the others but they will be putting their place. Thanks very much for your time. Thank you jason for plenty more social financial and even philosophical analysis from our international network of correspondents take out a subscription to the economist. Get a great introductory deal at economist dot com slash intelligence offer. The link is in the show notes. The french government agonized over what to do about the ski season in light of the pandemic in the end it settled on a compromise. It let the mountain resorts open. But it kept the ski lifts closed. Gone are the mechanical clatter of chairlifts in the base beat of high-altitude. Apres ski bars. Instead a different atmosphere films the mountain french ski resorts At the moment are alive. Two very different sounds you have children to buckling down the hills. You have. Huskies pulling sleds. So economists paris bureau chief. The scene is very delicate. I have to say it's quiet and very different sort of atmosphere in the alps but it is at the same time a problem for the local economy. How so how badly. Our local economies being hit here well. Some small firms and shops derive fifths of their yearly income during the month of february which is when the french have their half term holidays so although not opening lifts was justifiable on health grounds. It's put a lot of local people. Either to work or on furlough and we talk about people who mandalay to maintain the lifting equipment as when of course as the staff of all the bars and the restaurants and the hotels in the alps and have local businesses. Been able to adopt in some way as you say. People are looking for other ways to conquer the mountain village. That i visited in the alps called summertime to belleville. They have opened a couple of ron specifically for people who are able to go up other no stamina and energy to get up and ski down them but in reality people who are on skis really have become the minority so you see many more families enjoying the snow shoes these things that the french called crackhead on their boobs. You see husky sledding That was fully book title. If you could right up now to about two thousand meters at the top of the valley that is even ice diving offered where you go in dry suit under a frozen lake so you do see a lot of different activities in these being very popular. In fact. I visited a ski shop. Martine j. in some atta who. He runs the ski show. She told me that absolutely everything that we had she said has been pre book to doubt through the same if you talk to the tourist offices matter debate. They've said that the resources only thirty percent full. And that's really less than half of what the normal rate would be this effects from says three hundred and five resorts not just in the alps britain the perez and resorts and other mountain ranges as well. But this does raise really long term questions about the future and how long they can survive like this. And what's the government doing to keep these businesses afloat well. The government has unveiled to four billion euro mountain plan to try and help keep businesses on people going during the pandemic and while the lifts shot revenues are expected by some a forecast severe knee about half of the usual ten billion euros that they raise in a normal year. And if you talk to mas- you'll find that they're very worried because they tend to get income from lift passes from car parking and that fills an important part of their budgets. Joel hotelier is the director of the national association of mas- of mountain resorts and he told me that the mountain is an ecosystem. Let me turn list. i could quit system at. I'll see the film only beginning. It's easy to close the left's and just press a button but it does have a knock on effect not only in the resorts but down to the valleys that concern hundreds and thousands of people. Present type official Recycled sandy something. I think it's fattest say that. A lot of local people in the mountains are angry right now the government. And so how do you see this playing out. How will this anger manifest itself. Well it could affects the upcoming regional elections which are happening here in france in june. It certainly i don't think will help Emmanuel macron's party in these elections people understand that lifts being closed. But they're also angry about the situation. And i think now a resignation in the alps that it's unlikely that the lifts will be open anytime soon in in many ways. The building of the ski lifts transformed poor mountain valleys into what became playgrounds for europe's rich and also places of huge inequality. And in a way that the paradox because the locals now find themselves missing all those cash happy tourists even if they finding the mountains gloriously peaceful in many ways without the. Thanks very much for joining us. Ofi thank you jason. That's all for this episode of the intelligence. If you like us leave us a rating and review and see you back here tomorrow.

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S1Ep19 Part 2 of 3

Red Blonde Fox

29:04 min | 5 months ago

S1Ep19 Part 2 of 3

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Neither your mind has their time appeal and laura home blessing bringing christian. Turn god we thank you for those that tiny to your ministry week. Thank you for those that gave an offering gut. We thank you for those that didn't have an offering to give that. They may next time have to give and they may not feel shame. God we ask that you bless each and every one of us in jesus name amen. If you haven't heard about anchor is the easiest way to make a podcast. Let me explain. It's free this creation tools that allow you to record. Edit your podcast right from your phone or computer anchor will distribute your podcasts for you so it can be heard on spotify apple podcasts. In many more you can make money from your podcast with no minimum listenership. His everything you need to make podcast in one place. This is a mandatory call to action. Download the free anchor app or go to anchor that fm to get started. And don't forget to check out the weekly sunday services on my podcast. Red blonde bucks all right at this time we bring in dr rocio landing him on the floor mantle. Bless you all need your prayers. Everybody as you can see and look at the background. And i'm not feeling well i think that thing in my stomach de is trying to crop up the again kala dr to and see if you can give me antibiotic because i sure don't want to go to the hospital. Really truly don't want too much the hospitals so we just give me something to eat until we can get a check out to look for me. Okay i know. I'm still at night down there. So right you could be opposite still talking to you. Thank you today for your goodness and your mercy. Thank you for your outstretched handle we. Thank you for how you're all. Cni is always on ourselves and our families and everything that we do we think for keeping us and protecting has lowered from dangerous seen in saying we or for protecting our households and giving us what we need father now in this message lower over of minds and the understanding of the people so that they can hear what you're trying to say they can understand it lower and it goes to their hearts so they can live and i am allowing to decrease. I wanna decrease as you increase in spirit in me through this message. And jesus name i pray that god amen amen. Body is so good to see everybody. I wanna say before. I forget it. Don't forget Bible study on wednesday and a lesson that we talked about. We will be talking about each chapter five. So you get down please and Make sure that you study it. And she read the review chapters Read the chapter. Five can have a hearty discussion unlearn. Talk today about something that i want us to look at ourselves as as a talk to this. I'm talking to are christians to commission now not talk about the world. But i'm talking about us because these are things that to creep up in our lives and that make us affected the can take the seasoning of the salt away from us and if the solid season it's really it's really bland. It's it's worth nothing and we don't want to be like we want our life to be Pleasing to god and we want others to be touched by lives. So i'm to go today into the seven sends and we're decipher them. An of think about what this is so that we can pray and we can help someone else with the very first one allow. Hold on just rent. Dog is outside quick. I'm sorry oh okay. thank you so much. okay selectively. Stand the first one and if you don't know him this is good. It's time for you to write them down. Because these are considered. You know seeing a little stan would be our sense that will be used to spoil witness or to spoil our desire to walk god me and righteous and these like again little by low. Fox's spoiled by that could be setup into our hearts as christians and sometimes we don't even know it and we don't know that we're displaying it so we have to stay before the lowered to make sure that vessels are cleaned from from these things. The first one is laatste. And i'm gonna take the second timothy two twenty two second timothy two twenty seconds amethi chapter two twenty two follows too so martinez plea also youthful lusts of all of righteousness. Eight charity peace with them. That car on the noord out of a pure heart tells us in particular verse that we should follow chastity. Where is chastity. I know we heard that were. What does it really mean. Well chastity can be another word for self control self control less by controlling passion and levering that energy for the good of others so in essence at your lesson after something that means you have a passion for a great desire but we can catch schrool that i- leveraging it with energy for the good of others so ever in that position and we find ourselves doing that first of all we have to pray and ask the lord to help us with just feeling but let's speak about our lust can possibly do to ever people for something that would probably destroy out home help in this matter. No it would teach. Our children with techs are has been our loved wonder. Whoever is in that position so we have to be able to be strong enough to control ourselves in the control. Those hassans yes they come. How do you control them. Control them by thinking is slowing down enough to make the right decision because less than national take animal. It'll flaws away like the river and jump in the river in the current is our fighting the current water. You arowar where takes you. That's what must is it. Rolls ignores ranked where it wants to take you. Beat has done so we have to slow ourselves down before we even look like. We want jumped in the river we have to ration sales. Say whoever they need to do this. Is this gonna cause harm to me and my family. Is this gonna be something on embarrass me swarm i. May you have to make those decisions. You have to slow yourself down in order to do that. So that's the first one. The second one is gluttony. Thrifty is ten and thirty. Once i corinthians ten and thirty one chapter can worse. Thirty one reads. If we learn judge ourselves we should not be judged when we are judged. We are chiasson of the more that we should not be combined with the world severance and temperance again a cell control templates cures leading so controlling yourself controlling your desires controlling your feelings cures. Gladly by implanting the desire to be earthy. We're for making the to serve others ev. You you're blessed us that leaves you want everything that you see. The first thing we think about women talk about is food. You want everything there. Are you want these everything you want some of everything that goes out and you see two pieces. You take one instead of a slice which makes us really overweight. It gives us happening fresher. It gives us a sugar. Diabetes diabetes heart problems. All man. i'm a battery is running. Low on ricky's tainted thirty one or twenty one. I say i correct the ends ten and thirty. Thank you hold on another. I gotta plug. My thing is by. Go walk off okay. Okay okay guys. Thank you okay. So we talked about last. We talk about. Let me let me can also be something other than to. You could let anything let me need. You wanna take it all you want. Have you want you want olive what it is to have. You don't wanna share with nobody. You just want it all you just want an all in yourself and what the lesson is telling us with that is if we think about how we need to be healthy and that eating everything under the sun but choosing making choices and things that is a way to solve gluttony. Because it's gonna make you exercise it's gonna make you want to stop eating the wrong things and being shaped and why would you do that so you can help somebody else in the kingdom of god. 'cause you're not going to be any good or sick or you know cripple. You're not going to be good to anybody especially anybody this in need and the kingdom. So that's why we do not want to commit that type of a thing. Agreed is different than bloody has greed. Let me read. 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Podcast 115: Into the Bluegrass with Mel Hankla

Tales of American History

1:21:32 hr | 6 d ago

Podcast 115: Into the Bluegrass with Mel Hankla

"Welcome to tales of american history. The witnessing history education foundation podcast educating americans to understand the history of their country and of other countries so that they will appreciate the value of america's unique free institutions. I am genevieve brown. And today our host kent masterson brown and i are speaking with our special guest mel. Hank la this podcast is sponsored by donors who support the witnessing history education foundation a five zero one c three nonprofit become an american hero who participates in our mission by joining us at witnessing history dot org the website of the witnessing history education foundation all gifts are tax deductible and support the foundation's work of making high quality films podcasts and teacher education materials available to the public worldwide free of charge view the foundations documentary films on the website and on the foundations new youtube platform view. Also the foundations free teacher education materials that conform to grade level education standards at the website and at pbs learning dot. Org follow witnessing history on facebook and twitter. Now take a journey. Back through time with kent masterson brown and his guest mel la and let their storytelling transport you to the most compelling moments in american history dr hanke has recently authored a beautiful book richly illustrated with colour photography entitled into the bluegrass. Art an artistry of kentucky's historic icons. He's a native kentucky in and has a distinguished academic background. He's the founder of american historic services. Llc the contemporary long rifle association any also serves as the editor of cla's magazine american tradition. He's on the advisory board of the museum of early southern decorative arts in salem north carolina. And he's a member of the american society of arms collectors. We're very proud that he joins us today. In lexington for our podcast. Welcome dr hank. La mail i i want to thank you. First of all for For being here. And it's an absolute pleasure to have you. And i gotta tell you. Your book is got to be one of the most beautiful books. I think i have ever seen in an anti subject. And the fact that it is into the bluegrass and the story of kentucky's great icons makes it even more remarkable in that You talk about things that came out of kentucky's early years that very few people have ever talked about. And the one thing you notice if you just flip through the pages and by the way for all of those who are listening This is the most beautifully illustrated book one can imagine Most of the illustrations are in color Many of the illustrations that you see Are of rifles. when we're going to go into those you would call kentucky rifles. And but there are other things and Holloway ours a coin. Silver ladles Furnishings chest to drawers desks. Bookcases Produced during the very early years of kentucky's existence and its statehood and It makes mail for an absolutely gorgeous piece of work. And i want to first of all congratulate you on. It is just beautiful. Thank you thank you so very much. It's a. It's something that i really had in mind to do for many many years. Probably twenty five or thirty anyway and two years ago now at the kentucky history center house the curator for an exhibit that we called into the bluegrass rifles of frontier kentucky It was sponsored between the kentucky history center and the kentucky long rifle foundation and I was able to pull together. Maybe as many as half of the artistic kentucky long rifles that are in existence long with artifacts that belonged to general. George rogers clark. And and some other greats from the state of kentucky But that was the impetus for the book really started building catalogue. If you will riding a catalog to to have to go along with this exhibit. That was up for six months to kentucky history center and the next thing i knew i was two hundred pages into a and then i just realized that it was it was time. It was time to start. You know telling this story and and I just kept seeing this tapestry. If you will kentucky's cultural fabric. And i just wanted to write about it and educate i. I consider myself an educator. And i've worked in education pretty much my entire life and So this this was a way for me to do that before. I forgot some of this stuff. And and as the book grew i started looking for things to add whether it be in a wonderful early kentucky. Pottery that was made up on the on the river advance. Berg and maysville are silver by blanchard. Here and lexington are some of the wonderful furniture that was made across the state of kentucky. And and i just felt that it all had a place at all needed to be blended together and these colors put together. Yeah in this tapestry. Yeah well you're absolutely right. We there was a somewhat of a predecessor book to yours and that was the the book that came out. Not too many years ago called collecting kentucky and but it was more about furnishings Really all about furnishings coin silver flatware hala wear all of those kinds of things. What's remarkable remarkable about yours is the introduction of of the kentucky rifle to all of this and in fact even pipe tomahawks even carved or scrimshaw powder horns. All those things are now interjected into this story of kentucky's artistry by your book and You know but for the rifle there wouldn't have been any of the other forms of st would there now. No you're exactly right and and G laser and she an gosh now drawing a blank owner last honor for last name's howard but anyway that produce collecting kentucky. What a wonderful book that is and you know they featured seven or eight. Maybe even nine of the extensive collections of kentucky antiquities in their book. But what i wanted to do with this first of all. There's there's nothing in the book that i don't can't lay my hands on a primary document to authenticate it and really the book is not about the artifacts that are the nation in the book. But it's really about the stories of either. Their makers are their owners right and all of these people tied together and as you kind of alluding to a while ago i. I've tried to talk about this book as a tapestry. And you know all cloth when it's woven there is a particular thread called a whiffed That holds that piece of cloth together. All the other threads are woven on the west and the kentucky rifle that you mentioned such an iconic thing you go anywhere in the world and you say kentucky rifle and they envisions long barrelled. Where with a beautiful patch box and and he you know. Davy crockett or or daniel boone. From the the and that's really made it. Famous in our lifetime was fast. Parker malt disney all over and doing these dang ability. Baby crockett series. But this kentucky this iconic kentucky long rival is truly the whiffed yeah of kentucky's cultural fabric and this cultural fabric is beautiful. But if it hadn't been for this rival When people come into kentucky first of all most had come from places where guns real legal They had never before needed a rifle needed something to go to war with or to protect themselves with Are to feed themselves with a never before. Had they had to worry about a cougar. Mountain lion or a bear are the other kinds of animals. that as the pioneers. Come in and tried to cross through cumberland gap or in some way get across the appalachian mountain chain and frontier kentucky. There were so many things including the indians They they needed this rifle four but without it they didn't eat without it. They didn't You know one of the quotes in the book you know one of the great things. Somebody was asking kentucky frontiers from woman. That's why did you come to kentucky. He said i came to get to see a fine ric house rise out of the cane break and it took this rifle. This rifle was the number one tool of the day and they were very very artistic now. That's not to say they all were because there were many cheaply made rifles that That even the common man could have owned. But as we know lexington biting hundred was called the athens of the west right So these wonderful long rifles were being produced here in lexington. It waveland plantation by the bryant. Family chapter in the book on the bryan family. And and then that even goes into the powder horns that you'd mentioned a while ago the oh family from from georgetown started producing this group powder horns but all of these things come together and hold this west this tapestry of our cultural fabric together and the book started to mature. I had to start doing some research. I didn't know anything about kentucky. Pottery and and now reached an reached out to some people that i knew that had been students brindell. Brenda handle mud. That i had met through the museum of early southern decorative. Archie was worked in the library there and had done several wonderful talks about the the pottery out of maysville kentucky advanced bird kentucky and and using her research is a foundation was able to learn more to where i could kind of hack out chapter on not so much on the pottery but again the people that were making the pottery stories of these potters. And but i wanted to philidal- the most interesting chapters in the book to me. And when i say chat a lot of these would could be vignettes there only three or four three or four pages long less than a lot of you know fourteen fifteen hundred words but i wanted it to be that away because i know a lot of time i'm laying in bed and i'm looking to a book and the next chapter you know is ten twelve fourteen pages long i. I'm not going to invest anymore time. I'm going to go and go to bed. But if it's a couple of three or four pages i wanna read this so i wanted to. I wanted to make it an easy read. But i wanted all of these stories to blend together. All of these are colors to blend together whether it be the the kentucky penitentiary no and and i talk about the you know the early justice here in the state of kentucky and As well as all of the the silver makers all of the other things again we're living in in in the difficult time right now There's so many people in our country you say this word gun are rifle and they immediately build up this wall. Then they're not gonna look. They're not even going to take a chance to say well. What what is this. And in that day this rifle this kentucky rifle was the number one tool of the day you know and i ten years ago. I would said that it would have been like the automobile now. It's closer to the cell phone. But but the difference with that rifle it was a status symbol much like an automobile and the study of these rifles I'm going to say a lot of the people. That's listening to this If they meet a nineteen fifty seven chevrolet coming down the highway. They're gonna be able to recognize it and they're going to be able to tell the difference between it and fifty five ford and if you study these rifles. They're the same way a lot of times. You can pick one up with no signature. You can tell within ten or fifteen miles of where it was made and within four or five years when it was made just by the subtle differences in the architecture. Wow wow there's a there's a great Endorsement of your book by by frank house. And i want to read this to the listeners. A because it really sums up kind of my feelings about your book He says whether a seasoned artist impassioned collector dedicated historian or one who simply calls the bluegrass state home. There is much to be gleaned from dr mel. Hank was lifelong love affair with everything kentucky stories of priceless treasures tales. Pioneer men and women victories and triumphs epic's struggles and tragic losses all the while deftly knitting a narrative that places historic and invaluable icons into a tangible story of a robust and dynamic frontier kentucky. Now that is a that is a deg already. Well say and of course coming from a real gun maker himself frank house But it is it it. It does tell all of it. I wanna i wanna go into a little discussion here for per second about his words Pioneer men and women victories and triumphs epic struggles and tragic losses We have all of that and kentucky's frontier history. These people came in to Kentucky which mail. It was not settled by anybody at all when they arrived now We often here And at times when we play the film we made on the life of daniel boone. People might say well you know. He took the land of the native americans. Well he didn't there. Were no native. Americans in kentucky by seventeen fifty four the last small trading post which was now settled in in in clark county kentucky called escapade. Kathy had vanished and that was it now it was used to hunt by the tribes in the north as well as the south but none of them lived here and so they come into this this part of the world and they come in here at a time. Seventeen seventy four seventy five when the world now is at war again and britain and the colonies are at war. And the british side with the tribes simply. Because they don't have the manpower to do it themselves and so you get this this horrific bloody struggle out here for this area for this region and truly it is a it is a land. There were Victories and triumphs an epic struggles but also tragic losses were. They're not absolutely absolutely and you know just to get here and again i started mentioned this awhile ago. The vast majority of people that were coming into kentucky or new immigrants to america. We've got to remember that america Was was in its infancy and so many of these people were coming over on the boats They didn't stay long in. Philadelphia are along the eastern seaboard. And they started this This migration westward this westward expansion of america that that ultimately all all the way to california and the west coast But there were terrible. There were terrible tragedies offsides there was tragedies with the indians. The indians were fighting months. Theirselves the sean as was five hundred cherokees and the seminoles and and you know and and oh. I've had people argue. Well they were living in kentucky there were camps that were people that were coming here and stay here. But the vast majority of them were renegades and they'd been run off other tribes and then. You've got Richard henderson And seventeen and i can't recall the data. believe it seventeen. Gosh anyway up forgotten But but he literally traded with indians for fifty thousand dollars worth of giggles shiny silver and beads and things for all of the the the land south again. I'm gonna. I'm gonna lie if i start talking about these boundaries. But it's basically from the the ohio river over to the kentucky river and down to the cumberland river cumbersome it was a huge section of ground that he illegally traded for from from the indians and the indians were as mad about. It is because the people that tried to get him didn't have the authority or the ownership to to do that but but It was going to be. The new transylvania transylvanian means across the woods and boone. That's been ended up into kentucky. Because he was hired by richard henderson to blaze the trail the wilderness road and boonsboro was going to be the capital in the new capital of the of Transylvania so there was just movement going on it was it was an expansion. It was it was immigration and it was the the tracks of immigration as new americans. Were heading list or yeah. Yeah that The tree that Henderson negotiated with the with the shawny With the cherokee rather At sick at Sycamore shoals down. The taga river was in march. Seventeen seventy five daniel. Boone would be hired by him to cut a road. A path from cumberland gap to the kentucky river. What is now we call the kentucky river and the and that would be the capital wherever that was at the at the on the bank of the kentucky river and boone got to what is now the site of boonsboro on april first having cut that path with a large group of axeman but we a lot of people don't connect this dot and that is that's april first eighteen days later on april nineteen or the opening shots on the lexington grain in massachusetts that started the american revolution and that thing would expand across all the colonies and the territories beyond the appalachians and The war out here was particularly rough particularly difficult and particularly bloody and I was flipping through a mail. a A some work that Our friend late j winston cullman put together and For the for the british to begin an invasion of kentucky in seventeen eighty. This is the summer of seventeen eighty There was a record. An account of what the british were going to give to the combined tribes that would join the invasion and First of all there were seven hundred fifty pounds of vermillion and that was used for paint put on their faces. Eight thousand pounds of powder. Fourteen thousand nine hundred seventy five ball lead and shot for the rifles luckas. Four hundred seventy six dozen. Scalping knives and one hundred eighty eight tomahawks is what they gave the tribes on the eve of they launching that invasion. And you mentioned in your book. How one of your favorite gunsmiths Settled on the banks of the south fork of the licking river. Right across from the site of shuttle-station station that right near martin's station is in bourbon county. And of course it was those two stations that were struck by that invasion force and i mean in a gruesome way where the the british had artillery pieces with them. Two of them they threatened to open fire And is incredible. Captain isaac shuttle agreed to surrender ruttles station. And then the british lose control of the tribes. And they go in. And begin massacring Once they kill as many as i guess they wanted and took prisoners with the rest at a rental station. They crossed over and did the same thing to martin station. And i mean these. Are the these are the tragedies that That house is talking about and his is comment about your book and we lose sight of just how. What a struggle it was to settle kentucky and what was the west beyond the appalachian mountains and Yet it's fascinating that the rifles the thing. That's that's used to defend this place and to provide for food as well but that you know no sooner had that war finally come to an end in kentucky was long after the treaty of paris in seventeen eighty three but nevertheless by mid seventeen eighty s You're starting to see civilization explode here. And it's this remark by j winston calm. And he says it's in your book says the mark of the tomahawk was still fresh on the forest trees when early travellers to kentucky noted with surprise the exquisite silverware on the frontier. It was so fun about your book. Is that the very men who made the rifles. We're the ones who were many of them. Were also making this. Well they again. I go back to lexington kentucky this bluegrass region being the athens of the west and by eighteen hundred. You know we've got people coming in leaving that you know that it's Comparable to philadelphia. You know the the artwork and the furniture and and it was a cosmopolitan region. You know they talk about early kentucky. And i've never really seen it written but it's one of the first places that there was not a lot of discrimination going on even irish in the bluegrass region. I'm not saying everywhere. But in the bluegrass region everyone was being welcome in everyone was working together and it was It was quite a place. Utopia there for you know for many years. Yeah i mean even even the frankly. I remember in one of winston coleman's texts in pamphlet. He did on the british invasion of kentucky. Even the commander of the british in detroit. Who gave the okay for henry. Bird to launch that invasion. That ended up ruttles station. He commented that the the land the settlers who who are pouring into kentucky. The land is settlers. Want is second to none on earth in terms of its fertility and usefulness. Now that's a that's a british officer from detroit meghan say but like that because he's hearing. This place is absolutely spectacular. Well and there was a whole you know there was a large percentage of the group ruttles and martin station that were germans and they'd moved into here from bronx the bronx gap region. What is now rockingham county virginia. Will they had friends and family. That had come in and it settled around the rattled and martin stations region and they were captured. They re either killed or they were taken by bird in the indians. Detroit will be seventeen eighty three. You had friends and family moving in to pick up the pieces and see what was left and to take those lands that had been climbed. So there's there's a constant stream of these virginians That had been here way early in the seventeen forties and it stayed in the bronx gap region from twenty five or thirty years but but there was a huge migration of these virginians. That was coming into kentucky to pick the pieces. Yeah yeah let me go into a few. Just just i want you to talk about a few gunsmiths okay. you know it's interesting mel to You can look like. Joe kindy book on thoughts on the kentucky rifle in the golden age spectacular book unbelievable. It's the model. it's the bible. But those guns are all pennsylvania gunsmiths in for the most part and and what's so interesting they call those kentucky rifles to way for but but what what you have delved into our ones who made those rifles in kentucky so they are true kentucky rifles yes and I touched upon this just a minute ago. When we talked about ronald and martin station they humble. Brothers settling in Too far from conrad humble humble was one who settled right near the site of martin stations. Tell me about tiller viewers about them the humble boys. I'm on back up. Just a minute to this. A moniker if you will of kentucky rifle there's been age old cold war if you will between the state of pennsylvania and the state of kentucky over the nomenclature this gun. I said awhile ago you could go anywhere in the world and say kentucky rifle and they knew what you were talking about well and i believe it was nineteen sixty three. There's actually a chapter in in the book about this Bill scranton from from Pennsylvania the governor of pennsylvania had issued a challenge to the state of kentucky to the to the shooter's of kentucky and he wanted for us to take fifteen marksman bring them to boons homeplace in pennsylvania. Right outside reading and shooting match. And if they beat us the name for here ever after was going to be pennsylvania raffle in our logic of it is is that this that really pennsylvania and board of virginia's were this gun evolved and what we know it as the kentucky rifle however where it was made famous and where these guns were being made to use was kentucky and kentucky. At that time was across the woods across the mountains it would have included tennessee and ohio. This term kentucky was where people were were going to the first wave of migration But it's just the unbel- brothers is part of the bunch. That moved from rockingham county. Virginia into the ruttles meals area The earliest gunsmith that we have recorded that we can document. There's squire boone was gunsmith. There's none of these guns that we can document there's none signed There is a tomahawk that that descended in his family that Family history says that he made it in. I think he probably did was trained in philadelphia and would have been a wonderful gun maker. But there's there's something more to this again. i. I said a while ago talking about this. This status symbol these rifles. Were not only a status symbol to the owner but to the maker and michael ombo come in with james harried. He was here but seventeen seventy four. He was an arm. Or for. George rogers clark when when he started out from from louisville. Actually there's a historical marker on the corner of main and seven street in louisville of of michael gun shop and cool And he's buried by seventeen eighty three he was in Wrought on the mercer bowl county lines And he's he's buried there but then we've also found the remnants of his gun shop there we really and so his gun shop was there. We know where he's gun shop was that Then conrad moved in later. He wasn't here until probably again. I'm thinking seventeen eighty seven Having trouble recall dates today for some reason but they but he had a son named noah and noah actually apprenticed with his uncle. Michael there was even after after conrad died. He actually sat in seventeen ninety. And there's only one rifle known that signed by him in the book. And there's i guess now. We have three rifles. That are signed. Michael one that belonged to to Gosh captain james floyd that still in the family. And then there's the and you mentioned. Joe candidate The the the my colombo rifle come from the kindred collection i been able to purchase the conrad unbel- rifle and i started Pouring through the books and this thoughts on the kentucky rifle and its golden age that can dig wrote in nineteen sixty is considered the bobble if you will in the long in the long rifle the kentucky rifle world and among go back to this quick to even in pennsylvania. We've got documents now for a long time. People kept saying this kentucky rifle. Come from the song the battle of new orleans that was done. You know after the battle of new orleans but it was really common. This term was really common bay tino three and new york baltimore. London newspapers to describe it interest. Grab this gun. But we now have documented. That's dated seventeen ninety eight At a pennsylvania gun shop listing what he made and one of the top of firearms that he made were kentucky rifles even in pennsylvania. This this term was was being used. But but going back to michael. Michael and joe kennedy had started studying and i had went to kindergarten. And we're talking about six hundred rifles just kind of leaned up against the wall and and i started going through these rifles and i didn't see anything and he told me nothing was for sale and and But anyway and so. I went through. All of these guns and my friend are landing. I dedicated the book to. That's kinda my mentor. And my daddy and best friend who's now eighty eight years old and still going strong But he was talking to joe and they were having a conversation and and you know. I thought man i better go through these again and half halfway around the room now not once all day you know. These are so many you know we're talking to an excess of six hundred so so so many rifles you kind of have to have a rhyme or reason and it's real overwhelming so i was kind of going from my left to the right the same way that i would read now not once during the day had ever reached back at always pulled out what was in front of me and get it went on to the next one and i was halfway around the room and for some reason i reached back maybe three feet i mean a long reach and picked up a gun picked up a rifle in one of the things as collector and as a student of these rifles for years and looking at a rival of made the exercise to not look for a signature but rather to look at the artwork and to test myself to teach myself how to locate where this rifle was made by architecture and bites artwork and when it was made by those same subtle architectural differences but this time immediately when i picked it up i wrote it over and i could clearly see h. u. mba liam top of the borough and the only reason that i could read that was because i had seen the conrad unbel- and i wreck you know immediately and how would have never thought that joe hindenburg had heard a word of anything that i was saying and his daughter was there jennifer and and jennifer said what have you found and joe just kind of stopped and he stuck his arm out and he said you're man a now the jokin dig i'm talking about is now ninety seven years old and he is the son of joe kennedy junior wrote the book so he's you know this gentleman's lived his life there and he goes on to tell me you my father died confused about the the name on this rapport. He had no idea he knew it was different but he had no idea who made it. And you've you've you've closed a circle. And i'm gonna sell it to you this kind of like buying a house but we bought it brought it home. Wow that is such a great story. Joe for those of you. Jokin dig Wrote a book called thoughts on the kentucky rifle in the golden age the golden age meeting the age where these were really beautifully not only carved woods stocks curly maple but it was the furnishings on them. The patch box were intricate and they became a work of art and So he catalogued in this huge book All these rifles photographs of them and their makers and descriptions. It is a stunning book. And i gotta tell you on a personal level of our our mutual friend clemens. Well from danville kentucky came up to my office once i lived in danville for a while and practice boot my law office to danville and it came up to my law office once with the kindle book and he put it on my desk and he said I'd like to have that. There was no. There's no finer fellow in the world more sincere friend. Then koel he was just a terrific terrific character. And it's a book i treasured to to this day But kim dig for. Everybody was literally put together. The as as as has been said the bible on the pennsylvania kentucky rifles he likes to refer to it at times Guns made in pennsylvania but are known as the kentucky rifle nips terminology for him. I want to go back to clem. Just a minute you know what a wonderful there's different people got different opinions of clam. But i wouldn't have done what i've done. I wouldn't have been able to have accomplished the this book or the research. I've done if it hadn't have been clamped and i was telling you that him and my father had known one another growing up and he was stationed close by in the military but again going back to earl lanning that i dedicated the one of the people that i dedicated my book to and and in the front of the book. You'll see bronze that url did of of simon kenton yes But i'm my father died when i was in twenty and when i was twenty three a medoro and arl took me to clemes but and it was such a rude awakening. You know my doctorate degree and and earl looked at me and he said you need to forget about that book learning. You need to spend all of that. Tom clements you'll learn more than you sent in front of some vassar and and he was correct. And i finished my coursework and i literally done that Clam was getting long in the tooth and getting some age but we had a date every wednesday for a number of years. I'd pick him up at noon. We long john silvers and get a fish sandwich. And then we'd drive around the you know. Dan bowling bowl all the different areas and I learned so much from clinton. Yeah yeah it's really really a discount. Say enough about how much of a mentor. That he was to me. Let me let me tell. The folks clem koel lived in danville. Lived on the road to harrisburg out of out of danville in a greek revival. Home beautiful house that stood on the site of coal station. That station is on john. Phil simmons seventeen eighty four map of kentucky a co l. station. And i asked. I asked clem. I said clan. Tell me you were you were you born dabble ios born in this house and he says i'm the eighth generation born in this house in this family. Well i mean there's there was smack you right in the face i mean here is the flesh and blood of the very people you and i are talking. And what's interesting about clem is that it's not only him. It's his mother. it's his grandmother. His great grandmother were all collectors of of kentucky. artifacts principally Indian arrowheads axe heads all sorts of things that mostly the prehistoric indians left behind Who did not exist anymore and kentucky. When daniel boone came in and there there were historic indians. But they were in ohio or in. What is now tennessee But they collected these things so the the collecting of things like this was just embedded in his family because of their history here. I don't think i ever was in a place with a person who had such a connection to kentucky's frontier as clem koel absolute and each one of those it and if you you've obviously been there and he had such a wonderful collection of indian artifacts but as you know. His mailbox was quite a walk from the house and every day he would pick one indian rock and put it in his pocket and he would rub it and hold it while it's in his pocket all the way to the mailbox while he was walking he said he always thought about the person that made it and then when he left the mailbox he put it in his other hand in his pocket and on the way back he always thought about who used it and that's become part of the book. Yeah that's what i have done with. This book is in okay. We talk about a tomahawk and mary. Weather lewis is tomahawk is is in the book yeah. I don't talk much about the tomahawk. I've got great wonderful photographs of it. But what i want to talk about is mary with lewis. I want to tell mary weather lewis story. And that's throughout this entire book. If if i could not find a document. It's like daniel boone. i i was. I was closing up on the book. And i didn't have anything about daniel boone. There's just so few artifacts you can really document and out of the blue this This beaver trap showed up that it belonged to the huntington museum of art. And all of a sudden. Here's a story. I can't say that it's boone's but there's a wonderful family. History that says daniel. Boone gave this to patty huddlestone. The families now huddleston But you know. The authenticity of the of the story in the provenance is dead. On all of a sudden i was. It allowed me to include boone and talk about had you know even from kentucky. New of boone's kentucky escapades had no idea. He'd spent fourteen years in west virginia up on the canal canal. So as as i wrote this book i learned so much about kentucky's history and all of these little tidbits always splashes of color. If you will and the tapestry of our culture it is it is a it is a tapestry indeed clem to and ended here with with clem but He he also of course had a collection of kentucky rifles and One of them he had was hancock. Taylor's and who who came in with boone's party that opened the wilderness road and was killed and but it on the walls were all the rifles and all around in glass cases where all the indian artifacts it was. I can't even begin to tell you how i felt in that room. I know exactly how you feel. And you know the first the first american long raffle the first kentucky rafah were bought was from clem. And i'm sure you've paled it. It's featured in the book. It's signed jacob young ten the chapter unexpected artistry of the of the southern frontier and it it probably is influenced my artistry and my thought processes about kentucky as much as anything ever has. Yeah that wasn't the gun. That william whitley carries now well away at least gun was also by jacob young. It's still at the william whitley house. It's belonged i. I'm not for sure who really owns that rifle. But anyway it's at. The william in stanford took wonderful again. A wonderful story the in that chapter. There's great pictures. The william whitley's house was the you know it was on the wilderness road and all of the great. It stopped there. And william whitley is the name that that we just don't hear that much about and he was every bit as important as as daniel. Boone anybody like sam simon kenton. You know more people know silent kenton. But william whitley you know was so important and another chapter one. My one of my favorites you were talking while ago about boone and him settling boonsboro henderson land grant or grab if you wanna call it. One of the people that came in with them Was william cocke. Yes and i've got a chapter on william kalkin. Ed found it. You know his his journal exists. It's at the kentucky history center and some of the greatest things you know that that really telling the story of this trip this treacherous trip into kentucky. But i really loved it. Because he he said well you know They'd been at boonsboro not long but they were casting lots for the property. Everybody was going to get a piece of property so they were casting lots and and he said i went fishing and i catch three cats So this leads you to believe you know. He didn't really care much about the property you know he'd rather go fishing. But then you know wannabes. Conrad's was knocked smith. It's a wonderful gun. Builder and in the only known inox bit raffle is is featured in the book and he had moved on to mount sterling. Pretty much given credit for settling in amounts starling kentucky in his house still stands on mount sterling but he was a silversmith and actually the uncle of a sa- blanchard are most revered known silversmith and the state of kentucky so it just all ties together together and the the stories all blend together and I i had. Somebody bought a book and and they wrote me this most wonderful letter and said you know. I sat down to thumb through it thinking that it was a it was a coffee table book and and five hours. Later i was only about a third. It read more like a novel it does. It does raise like a novel. That's what i wanted. And it's all documented. Yeah yeah yeah well you know you mentioned earlier that some people say that the name kentucky rifle came from the the poem about the kentucky inns at the battle of new orleans in eighteen Fifteen january eighteen fifteen and i Let me indulge that listener by reading just one paragraph from that from that pom one set of inverse First of all the name of the poem is called hunters of kentucky or half horse and half alligator which which is what could these kentucky referred to themselves as in the poem anyway and It first of all sets up That the hunters of kentucky Went to new orleans to reinforce jackson's andrew jackson's forces there and And that the the british were a attack them and and it's it reads as follows but jackson. He was wide awake and was not scared of trifles for well he knew what we'd take with our kentucky rifles so he let us down the swipe to the cypress swamp the ground was low and mucky there stood john bull meeting a british in martial pomp and there was old kentucky. You can't get any better than that then. Okay now. i'm i'm going to go off on a tangent and say down a rabbit hole. All right i grew up in. Jamestown kentucky on cumberland yeah. There's no iran or until i moved to eastern kentucky. Carter county grayson. I was kind of awadh seen an iron furnace. Thank you know. Land between the lakes or somewhere. But i didn't know anything about her iron industry. I had no idea that the iron industry kentucky was stirred in the nation until after eighteen thirty. And the reason. I bring this up. Now there's an owings ville kentucky right off of sixty four within a half. i'm home. There's an iron furnace It was originally called the bourbon. Iron furnace Andrew jackson bought almost all of the cannonballs. And grape sean. That was used at the battle of new orleans and they were. They were taken to maysville by ox cart and sent down the river and it just flabbergasted me. Here's this iron furnace that huge and it's still standing and it was fired for the first time in seventeen ninety and it was nicknamed the old thunder meal but cause of all of the ammunition that it was making but really what it was set up for. We talked earlier about these hardships. When these people were coming in they couldn't bring a plow share. They couldn't bring an iron pot that they needed to bowl saltwater or to wash clothes in they are none of this so as early as seventeen ninety two years before we reach statehood. We've got an iron furnace. It's fired up. Making ten gallon killed secret inland by the war of eighteen. Twelve you've got. Andrew jackson is is ordering cannonballs from from this place. And and i just you know again. There's a chapter on it in the book. And i've got a picture of andrew jackson on his horse and there's cannonballs at his feet. And when i see that still to this day i can't keep from thanking wonder if those cannonballs were made in ville kentucky. Well you know there were there were iron furnaces here in lexington county we have an iron works pike. Yes which of course gets its name from that. I mean absolutely essential to life not no not to mention just making cannonball but but Like you say iron. Pots cattles to boil salt. Boil down water to salt was just absolutely essential and But you know your book Just again it covers the entire tapestry of what it took to to to settle a place like kentucky and then what that artistry did for the generations rafter to civilize this place when not just kentucky but the nation. Oh yeah and i had. I had a wonderful friend and mentor. And her name was brooks howard and she worked with kentucky state government the kentucky. Sure i remember. Yeah and and she would always say. I could hardly ever have a conversation that it sometimes that she wouldn't say that kentucky was the daughter of the east and the mother of the west. Oh and i just think that's says it so well because you know they're still to this day there's something about kentucky there's this cosmopolitan aspect of kentucky and these people would come and maybe it was only so journ for. They only stayed a few years but then they went on to missouri then they went further west and so many of the wonderful rifles that are are featured in the book were found in Missouri and further west wisconsin. Yeah like the balloons. Yeah like the. Brian all went to missouri. Did they sure did they sure did. Let me just talk for just a minute about daniel boone bryan here in fayette county For those of you who are are kentuckians. You can see his grave at the lexington cemetery along with all of his kin. He is the nephew of daniel. Boone and But his his he settled originally out the What we call the nicholasville road at a place called waveland which has been a state property state historic apart. A property for quite some time Tell us about daniel boone bryan well in order for me to tell you about him on the tell you a little buddies father. His father was william brian And he was a gunsmith and he was an armourer. Under general griffith rutherford in in the revolutionary war The one back to the chapter of all ago we talked about jacob. Young unexpected artistry chapter One of the rifles that was made for casper massacre. Who is tennessee. kind of what. Daniel boone is to kentucky They were both armourers together. Thomas simpson and you had wakeham young. Who was the father of jacob young who obviously At least worked in close proximity to thomas simpson. And then you had william bryan william come early on and settle bryan station and was killed by the indians early. On but daniel boone bryan. His son was old enough. He was also listed as an armourer at that time. And he carried on this gunsmith and trade and in the book. I've got a chapter talking about lexington rifles. And there's there's there's different characteristics but one specifically is this patch box kind of got a almost a propeller looking female on the end of the box. Kind of flower or four. Piddle thing and daniel boone bryan is given the credit of designing are establishing this lexington school of gun making You you can take a rival. That's made within a thirty. Or forty square mile area of lexington kentucky and i can spot it by one hundred feet away just by well and but he was very very important he had so much going on. You know we had a gun powder meal. He was making gunpowder there. He had a bottle school. The house waveland that we know now actually tore down his old daniel bryan's old stonehouse and his son. Joseph joseph built the house. That's there now the plan you know antebellum kind of house. It's there now but there's there story is kentucky there's door is is coming in from north carolina settling in kentucky having tragedy. You know the father died early on. He wasn't here very long at all but they've left such a mark in and the produce there are these wonderful artistic long raffles that they were making are still revered and sought after today. May maybe there's twenty five. Yeah that we know about. Yeah well his father daniel boone. Brian's father william murray daniel boone sister. yes and daniel boone. Married william brian sister double first cousins. So hence the name daniel boone bryan bryan boys married simpson girls. Girls's again. it's all intermingled story away. Always say that about kentucky you know you you. You never speak ill of another kentucky and at any function party. Because it's going to be his cousin probably out of it. So but but daniel boone bryan really had quite an enterprise. I mean it was almost a huge huge enterprise out there and it was not only just making rifles but it was just a whole lot of other things going on that. He said he did. And i as a kid. I i worked out there waveland with dr hamilton tap. Who ran then. And i remember the dining room of that house is the only only room that has stone fireplaces at either end the dining and it was always understood out there that that was the cabin. That framed. The cabin of daniel boone bryan and Which is now the dining room. Now at all has changed. Because it's a brick facade of the house and so forth but you can still see the stone fireplaces and wherever else in the house is brick so something is different there than elsewhere and it was always understood. That was with that so or not. I don't know but This by the way all the all those. Brian's were buried out there i but then they were all removed to the lexington cemetery. Daniel boone bryan has quite a stone there now but there are very interesting. Crowd the bryans in particular Of course the settlement of brian station that was besieged and seventy eighty. Two is one of the great stories of the american medical. You know and the doubters american revolution has just had that you know. The the first monument that was produced by women for women was i believe in eighteen ninety eight and it was like two or three years after that daughters in the american revolution had been formed and it was the monument at bryan station. And there's this you know this wonderful story of the c. You know the fort was underseas. They from their scouts. They knew there was a huge contention the shawnee and the women realized they were out of water so mary polly craig. Who's picture. you haven't seen that before. That was a coup so she led these women down. You know that were scared to death. But they were banking on the indians. Not getting them but it literally saved the fort they were able to bring water back not just to drink but to put out any fires that they indians had try to say it but here the story goes on further. He got mary. Polly hawkins craig. Who was the mother of of alaska. Craig that's been credited at least for making some of the earliest. Bourbon whiskey preacher. And then his son william craig's powder horn is in the book and he was a surgeon at the battle of the thames. Tecumseh was killed. So yeah well. You know that. Speaking of the battle of the thames This is a battle fought in september eighteen thirteen and it is a an engagement up not far from detroit A battle that occurred. Right after oliver hazard perry's victory over the british on lake erie and This is kentucky militia led by our first governor. Isaac shelby Fighting british troops under major general. Henry procter Along with the tribes under shawnee chief tecumseh and his and his indian allies. And it's right near what they then called moravian town which is what some people call. The battle of the thames is the battle of moravian town. But this is where. A william whitley and simon kenton their last the last in certainly it is the last because he's killed in it but It is the last really engagement. You're going to see simon kenton in These are aging guys but tell the view the listeners. A little bit about the battle of the thames. And william there well to me one of the great things about this. Of course you know the the the battle of the river raisin had really slaughtered a bunch of kentuckians. And and there's something that we still haven't kentucky that amazes me and it's patriotism thank. There's more patriotism in the state of kentucky than anywhere. I've ever encountered anywhere else in the united states. But they felt like the the kentuckians felt like that britain was trying to once again. Rob us of our freedoms and they were ready. When when first of all isaac shelby was our first governor and he really did not want to be our governor But they come to him and said you know we need you and and he said okay. He said if i'm needed how our run course won the election with no no problems and then Are not president. Harrison william henry harrison You know even wrote to shelby and said we we need you and you know if if you could you know. He had heard that he had two thousand men and he said we. We'll take your two thousand and more and he literally gathered them up and and But but the battle of the thames the to me the really heart and soul of the battle hymns is something called. The forlorn hope when richard mentor johnson. was kind of i. Guess the leader if you will. And isaac shelby somewhat under him and and the the british had already kind of left. But you had to come in the show me that were really making some headway any call for twenty volunteers and he knew it was going to be kind of a suicide mission but he felt like that was at a point that if they didn't do something they were gonna lose this battle and we're going to go through the through the middle they were going through the middle of the indians and and kinda that would give a chance for people to circle and and give them a different battle advantage and and that's what he did and and william whitley at sixty four years. Old was the first volunteer. Can you imagine at sixty four sixty four years old and there were sixteen when at the first volley of shots sixteen of these men were shot off of their horses and killed. There was only one man that was wounded and his name was garrett wall and his horse took a bullet between the eyes. it was meant for him. And it dropped him under the the line of fire so he wouldn't wounded And garrett william whitley was indeed killed is raffling. His powder horn was brought back to him and given to his wife. That's it. And it's now the william whitley house and but garrett walls rifle and powder horn stayed with the family. He come back. He was kind of a a farmer. If you will. And there's a journal ledger of where that he was selling raising corn for the liquor industry and so wood and stayed in georgetown. His powder horn was made by francis tannahill and mentioned this briefly early on but the oh family re vibe d- a fad to have highly are engraved powder horns the french and indian war. They'd been very popular They kind of fell out of service during the revolutionary war. And they were out of vogue until this happens. If the west the bryans were making these wonderful rifles. And you had francis tannahill that had been a ship's captain so he knew all about scrim show those designs and he moved into georgetown kentucky in seventeen ninety eight The first horn we know that he made is dated eighteen. O two but this great walls powder horn huge. It's obvious it's been made for him to carry to the battle of the thames. Thank about this. These old men had had fought in the revolutionary war. Their guns and powder orange and stuff was wore out so they had to have new kits. William whitley was carrying a brand new rifle that was made by jacob. Young jakup young made him this huge powder horn That the rhyme on. It's just just wonderful but we've now discovered there's at least nine of these large powder horns that once upon a time you would have thought that they were kind of a supply horn hold like three pounds of powder were leaving to kentucky and you knew you were going to chatham ontario canada. You're going to carry a lot of gun so anyway that was. That was one of the great things for the book. And you know. I said early on that. The the the book was inspired by this exhibit. That was at the kentucky history center and for the first time since the battle of the thames. The day of the forlorn hope William whitley's rifle and powder horn was put back together with garrett walls powder horn oh and and they they had been separated and older son had inherited the powder horn and needed been sold twenty some years ago and it has been known in the powder. Horn world is a masterpiece and a fifth grade granddaughter of garrett wall Sold great walls rifle and the two were able to be put back together. And it's just it's a kentucky treasure yeah just Totally an incredible I just love. I love the era. so much We can Folks listen if they travel into kentucky go down to stanford kentucky and take The old us one fifty. The early one is a modern one. That's out that's gone past it now. But take the owl's the main street and stanford you'll come to the william whitley house and the first brick house ever built in kentucky. It's got ww w in the brickwork over the entrance way the door and in there you'll be able to see for yourself. The rifle carried by william whitley at the battle of the thames. Well also want to kind of interject here. Not only does it say. Ww on the front. It's now been covered by kitchen But it says edw on the back and that's for extra witnessed or his wife wife and and and you know so. The women are not mentioned but here as early as this first brick house. That's made in kentucky. He thought enough of his wife to put her initials on on of this house and esters known as a wonderful marksman is a wonderful shot and the friendly indians that would come there You know they would he he would bet that could beat them and then then those indians they love to go back and get other indian and they'd bit astor could beat them. You know so. She was quite the novelty and even on his wonderful rifle that he was carrying when he was killed at the battle of the thames. Not only does it. Say w w on the silver in the side plate it also says e w does it really so so. There was really a family connection. Here was a man that was revering and giving respect. Yeah took to his wife. As early as seventeen eighty here in frontier kentucky kentucky. So remarkable place. It was then it is now special. It's magical and i forgot something earlier. And i've got to spit this in here. You know i was talking about the the challenge from pennsylvania over the name of the rifle. Well we went to pennsylvania. We shot him. And that was actually the beginning of the kentucky core of long rifleman and we beat them so all of a sudden now they wanna go double or nothin' then about three weeks later at the daniel boone festival in barbara's ville which were still having today we beat them for the second time. Were you among them were you no no no no. I wouldn't and some of the there's very few of the people that was that were shooting match. Then that's still alive. But what governor. Scranton had done is. He borrowed unoriginal eighteen. Sixteen pennsylvania rifle from the pennsylvania or society so he borrowed this and put it up for a prize. Never thinking that the kentuckians is going to beat him. We've still got that raffle and and conduct over. All of the governor's desk for years and years. And and i think window forward was the last governor that was on the wall and it kinda got lost. I didn't know where it was at. And while i was working with the kentucky historical society i mentioned it. And and the curators there saddam awards had said. It's hanging behind the adjutant general's death. I'd have to fill out papers. They never give it to us so we we have to fill out loan paper so we can keep this rifle. I remember as a kid go into was then at The perryville battlefield. Where the long the kentucky long rifleman. We're having their Their tryouts so to speak. And i remember speaking to this. One fella ralph. Marco oh absolute remember just has died just in awe that ralph. He was He stood out in the crowd. He was short fell but he stood out in a crowd because he had these black buckskins. That's right and i. I was attracted to that and i went over and chat with. He goes i said you know. Are you trying out. He said he's i make my own rifles. And that was one of the first people ever ran into made his own Your another course. Ralph said yeah. I gotta get this thing through because i got to go back and put the boarding house i said. Where do you live in san which is a little town by the way mccain in the mountains above berea and i said really put the. Why do you have to rush to put the boarding. Well it'll all curl up because it's a full moon out there and there i got win. This guy is right off the frontier. He is right off the frontier. But you're right the kentucky core of long rifleman. We're just unbeaten they you. Pennsylvania couldn't come close now which which by the way a bears up the verse in the palm for well. He knew what aim we take with our kentucky. Right listen my friend. This is just a blast to talk to you. I have so many thoughts in my head so many stories that have run through my head. I wanted to bring up with you and it is just not enough time in the day but one. I want you to tell everybody now How where they can buy your book. Okay have a good time to to say just a few. The last chapter in the book is called a tapestry of cultural fabric. And that's more than anything else. What i want people to understand. This is not a gun book. Even though there's maybe thirty five or forty percent of the book on the study of the american long rifle. But it's artistic thing. And i started to say early on. We're living in this age that people throw up this wall. They they don't like this this name rifle or gun and for some reason they cannot look at it as an art form. So what i wanted to do was to intermingle this. This iconic kentucky long rifle in with all of these other items that are always recognized as art forms and the last chapter of the book. What i've done is there's a wonderful cherry inlaid with bellflower drops on its legs Board that was made about seventeen ninety and frankfurt and on top of that as a miniature sugar chest that you know all of the kentucky antique collectors if they don't have a sugar chessboard. they're looking for one And then i've got pottery from from maysville kentucky. The woods woods brothers pottery. And then there's a miniature on ivory but matthew harris jude or more salvadorian You know portrait priced And then hanging on the wall as a as a painting of a little girl. But by joseph henry bush and it's his it's his little niece and then there's a pistol that was kentucky made and belong to william crabtree and was used at the battle of kings mountain. But when you look at this photograph of all of these things. Nothing's out of place. There's a powder horn there's a flint lock pistou. There's there's art. Their spurn itcher. There's all of these different splotches of color that make up this cultural fabric of kentucky. And that's what the book is about. It's truly the story of the western brand gration of america. But it's it's told through these historic icons and are makers and their owners Here in the state of kentucky shot myself in the book book. Seventy nine seventy nine dollars. Ninety five cents I've had so many people said. Can i get that on amazon. Can i get it here or there. Everybody wants to forty percent wholesale time and forty percent. I'm losing seventy dollars. So my wife. And i have done all of the retailing were The op got a webpage. And it's into the bluegrass dot net. You can do a search for anglo a meal h. In my email address is mill at a. m h i s s dot com that stands for american historic services. You can order that book to my email directly through me hassan. I'm all Handle they're all wrapped and and shrink wrap unwrap them. The book Sign it if you wanted inscribed islands. Grab it and shipping. The best i can do is eight dollars and fifty five cents. So the book was shipping is eight dollars and fifty cents. There's also a deluxe version. There's a signature edition. The only reason that i was able to afford to do this book and not call for par Sponsorships is i don a subscription and there were one hundred sixty two or three people subscribe to the book and and donated. If you will two hundred seventy five dollars to the project and for them. I had two hundred and fifty copies of eight leather bound case and eight leather bound slip case and those two hundred and fifty books have an additional thirty three pages of information. They have a story that was written by noted Kentucky collector mac cox. He has done a wonderful research. Study on a group of paintings He calls him the rid family paintings and they descended From from matthew hirsch and oliver frazier different ones but We added in those books. Those two hundred and fifty copies. They are now three hundred dollars. And there's thirty one copies of those left if anybody wanted an investment book. Something of a collector's matt cox is wonderful. Fellow back in sharon and they they were contributors to the production of yours and they. They've contributed to film we make on the lincoln's in kentucky is they're they're totally devoted to the history of this place absolutely great great great people. And gosh it's been fun. I could go on and on mel- Reminds me of sitting with mel with with with with clem. it that's what a compliment is By the way. I love your quote about clem about. He telling a group that looking into a campfire. That is the thing you'd see that they would have been seen by prehistoric man and it's the only thing left. That man has not screwed up a of french. Well i'll tell you what i'm gonna i'm gonna. I'm going to read you just two verses of the hunters of kentucky and we'll close with this This is. They're seeing the british. Come out on. This is the battle of new orleans. They did not let our patients tired. They meaning the british before. They showed their faces. We did not choose to waste our fire. So snugly kept our places but when so near we saw them week we thought it time to stop him and would've done you good to think to see kentucky. Inns drop them. They found it last. Twas vein to fight where lead was all the booty and so they wisely took the flight and left us all our beauty meeting the women in new orleans and now if danger air noise remember what our trade is just send for us kentucky boys and will protect easy ladies. Thank you so much manner so much fun. Yeah great fun thank you. This podcast is produced at dynamics productions in lexington kentucky neil kesterson audio producer and editor. Your gifts help support the production of this podcast if you are interested in sponsoring the podcast on a one time or even a monthly basis. Please write to us at g. m. brown at witnessing history dot. Org thanks for listening.

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How the Solar Wind has Stripped Away the Martian Atmosphere

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How the Solar Wind has Stripped Away the Martian Atmosphere

"Love this podcast. Support this show through the acoss support of hr. It's up to you. how much give. And there's no regular commitment just hit the link in the show description to support now. This is space time series. Twenty four episode five for broadcast on the thirtieth of january. Twenty twenty one coming up on space time hell. The solar wind's been stripping away the martian atmosphere giant x ray bubbles detected in the milky way's galactic halo and the discovery of a new super. Caster all that and more coming up on space time. Welcome to space time. We'd still gary five years after. Nash's maven spacecraft. I into orbit around the red planet data from the mission as led to the creation of a map of electric current systems in the martian atmosphere. A report in the journal nature astronomy claims these currents played a fundamental role in the atmospheric loss that transform us from a warm wet world capable of supporting life into an inhospitable free stride desert maven the mars atmosphere and volatile evolution spacecraft was developed to investigate the red planet's opera atmosphere and i honestly see how the solar wind strips away that atmosphere. The study's lead author robin rams from the university of colorado boulder says. He's now working on. Using these currents determined the precise amount of energy that's drawn from the solar wind to power atmospheric escape earth is similar current systems often seen is the colorful displays the night skies above the polar regions known as the aurora borealis alison roar strand in northern and southern lights earth's aurora are strongly linked to current generated by the interaction between magnetic field and the solar wind these currents flow along magnetic field lines in a words atmosphere concentrating the polls but studying the flow of electricity thousands of kilometers above the earth only tells part of the story about the situation on mars. See the difference lies in the two planets. Different magnetic fields is well. The earth's magnetism comes from within the planet much magnetism doesn't earth's magnetism comes from its core where molten literally conducting nine generates cheered dynamo producing global magnetic filled with surrounds the entire planet since mars is rocky terrestrial road like the earth. One might assume that is the same kind of magnetic paradigm functioning there as well but it doesn't is a lot smaller and so it's cooled down a lot quicker than the earth meaning. Its core is basically no longer molten or if it is not enough they had degenerated year dynamo the best mass can do today a relatively small patches of magnetized crust so that means something very different from what is observed on earth must be happening on the red planet. The solar wind made up largely of electorally charts electrons and protons blows constantly from the sun streaming added around one point six million kilometers an hour. It bathes interact with all the objects in our solar system. And because it's on is the solar winds also magnetized by a magnetic field can easily penetrate the upper atmosphere of a non magnetized planet like mars instead carrots that the solar wind juices in the pilots ionosphere causing a pile up and strength the magnetic field creating sir gordon juiced magnetosphere. Exactly how the solar wind powell's this induced magnetosphere around mars hasn't been well understood until now as the solar winds positively charged ions and negatively charged electrons smash into the stronger interest magnetic field neymars. They forced flow part due to the opposite electric charge. Some ions flow in one direction. Some electrons in the other forming electric currents that draper around from the day side to the night side of the planet at the same time sola x rays and ultraviolet radiation constantly on is some of the upper atmosphere on a ten it into a combination of electrons and electrically charged ions that can conduct. Electricity ramstad says mass atmosphere behaves like a giant middle sphere enclosed electric circuit currents flow in the upper atmosphere with the strong is currently as persisting at around one hundred twenty two hundred kilometers above the planet surface with maven in previous missions of localized hints of these current lays before. But they've never been actually met the complete circuit from its generation the solar wind to where the electrical energy is deposited in the upper atmosphere directly detecting these currents in space is incredibly difficult. Luckily the counts distort. The magnetic fields in the solar wind and so is detectable by maven sensitive magnetometer the authors were able to use maven to map out the average magnetic food structure around mars in three dimensions and calculate the counts directly from the distortions of the magnetic field structure without a global magnetic food surrounding ma's the currency in juiced in the solar wind can form direct little connection with the martian upper atmosphere currents transform the energy of the solar wind into magnetic fields that accelerate charged at. That's very paddock's. The space thereby driving atmospheric escape solar wind driven loss of the martian atmosphere has been active for billions of years contributing to the transformation of the red planet from a warm wet world. That could have supported life to the global freeze dry desert. Is today this report from this tv. Even as a spacecraft orbiting mars. It's been there since two thousand fourteen maven in. This case is an acronym stands for mars atmosphere volatile evolution and this gives a clue as to what mavens real goal is to study the top of the atmosphere and how the gases in the top of the atmosphere escape from mars away to space so the atmosphere of mars must have been thicker but four billion years ago in today's very cold and dry and maven his men to understand the atmosphere as it is today and how it has evolved into this current cool dry state one of the things. We're trying to understand with me. Even is whether a magnetic field for planet is important for regulating the climate or allowing the planet to keep an atmosphere. Earth has a global dynamo magnetic field. Mars does not but mars has an induced magnetosphere. it has an induced magnetic field. The upper atmosphere of mars being used by solar radiation and so the electrons are being stripped from the items in the atmosphere. When that happens it turns into what we call the state of alaska. This plasma in the upper atmosphere is very conductive leads. Electric currents to flow through it elect occurrence shape the medic fields. That are around them. And that's actually how we see them with me when we take medic- field data and we map it around the planet and from that. The current emerge we've known how the current flow in the earth minister for decades. But we don't know how that works on mars. We don't know how it influences the direction with solar wind because it determines how energy flowing into the atmosphere how it's transferred from this all away and into the system and that's trying to even when you just look at the data as it comes down you're seeing a little squiggly line. Essentially you're saying the attic field strength and its direction berry spacecraft flying through different regions. And so what you have to jurors you have to the planets and to this interaction with the solo in and then it starts to emerge that you have a drip situation whether the magnetic field solar waveland encounters supplying them it starts to wrap around it and the reason it wraps around the planet is those electric currents that we are seeing magnetic field and the solar wind is straight lines you can think of st spaghetti noodles and it's flowing towards the planet and those spaghetti noodles wrap around this basketball shaped planet and that's indeed what we saw in the data. The magnetic field lines draping around mars is a plant. One thing that wasn't so expected. Was this specific configuration of the electric currents that we derive from the magnetic field data if mars is a ball here. It's sort of this cup shape on the day side loops back on itself. What wasn't so intuitive to me. Was the directions of those currents and the fact that it wraps continuously around to the nightside and makes this marvelously complex current system on the nightside as well. This is the first time that we've been able to actually map out the currents so we can see the end. She's being transferred we can see what actually forums the underlying mechanisms creating these inducement. Nita's fears that are not just common here. In the solar system there are fifty percent of the planets that happened them up the terrestial pundits. And if you want to understand how the atmosphere of mars and venus why they're so different from the earth and why there's different from each other despite both being non magnetized. We understand their induced. Bonito's here's i so. Knowing how these global current systems are configured teaches us about how charged particles near the planet or going to move both charged particles in the solar wind and charged particles from the atmosphere itself that are in the process of escaping to space. So now we can understand better where those particles came from how they move near mars and where they're going to go next that in turn teach us about atmospheric escape from the planet and the history of the atmosphere over time. How thick has it been. How much has been removed. And in that report from nasa tv we had for mason co investigator david brain as well as the study's lead author robin ram stead. This space time still the come. Giant bubbles detected in the galactic halo and a new super close the discovered by astronomers all that and more coming up on space time. Astronomers have discovered john x ray bubbles extending thousands of li- is above and below the central region of the milky way this region located some twenty seven thousand light years away is home to secretaries ace ta galaxy central supermassive black hole which contain some four point three million times the mass of our sun the newly discovered giant x ray bubbles extend some forty five thousand six hundred and sixty two is above and below the galactic centre that were discovered by them as using the gym era zita x ray telescope aboard the russian specter rg spacecraft which is located in the legrand g and l to position on the opposite side of the earth to the sun launched in july twenty nine teen erase. Zita has taken a complete all sky survey the taking over a million x ray sources more than doubling the number x ray sources previously known as scientists have been shifting through the data. It came across an astonishing new feature a huge structure forming. What looked like part of a giant x ray bubble emerging from below the galactic centre. Yeah as we reported previously on space time a similar structure had already been detected stretching out above the galactic centre and combine. These two x ray are kin of the fermi gamma ray bubbles discovered in twenty ten a report in the journal nature suggests the shop boundaries seeing these bubbles apiece detroit shop fronts disturbances in the harshest envelope around the milky way goes by either a burst of star formation or by an outburst from secretaries a star itself authors have calculated that the energy needed to produce such impressive structures would be equivalent to the energy released from the list than one hundred thousand supernova. This space time still the come and you supercross. The discovered by astronomers is and griffith university to develop a new satellite with gilmore space. All that and more still to come on space time another day released by erasito has allowed astronomers to discover a new supercross that consisted chain of eight galaxy classes supercars. There's other largest learn stretches in the universe. They're made out of chains of galaxy. Clusters each cluster. King consist of thousands of galaxies observations reported on the pre press physics website archived dot org a part of the space telescopes aphids or find liquid turtle depth survey they show a range of structures from dance. High mass galaxy clusters through to lower density filaments in shades of stars gas dust. The super class was located at a rich shift of zero point three six. That's about four point nine. Six billion light years away optical and x ray data showed that the northernmost clusters in the group going through of off axis merger with bertha double merge and a pre merger and the largest and most massive galaxy cluster located in the northern part of the super cluster contained some five hundred eighty trillion solar masses massive galaxy clusters in the group have around one hundred and thirty trillion saw a masters each with other classes containing between one hundred and forty and two hundred and fifty trillion solar masses. The idea of a major taking place is supported by data showing radio relics in the north and south east of the northernmost cluster together with an elongated radio halo and galaxy density contoured map showing two peaks in the northern and southern regions of the cluster. System this space time. Still the com- griffith university of open you satellite. In collaboration with gilmore space and later in the science report the american food and drug administration has rejected british plans to delay giving second dose of the covid nineteen vaccine up on space. Time don't coast. Aerospace company gilmore space has signed the memorandum of understanding with griffith university to develop satellites for into low-earth orbit by twenty twenty. Three the partnership will include research and development lightweight alloy materials and manufacturing methods as well as advanced sensors and imaging technologies new-generation on both satellite. It systems including the degration of artificial intelligence and utility communication systems is pat of the project. Wanted to kilogram prototype earth. Observation spacecraft will be developed for disaster management mining operations thermal mapping of fires refund flood-monitoring land-use observation and urban planning griffith is also working with more space on a new lightweight compass at rocket fuel tank designed to be up to two meters an aminata which will be trialed on flights in the bid to reduce weight increase reliability and achieve of rural launch. Cost savings this space time and time to take another brief look at some of the other stories making news in science this week with the science report the us food and drug administration has rejected the british idea of delaying. Second of the covid nineteen vaccine so that they can spread the limited supply of edible out further. Several american states considered for the united kingdom's decision to delay the second dose of both the fis of bio enter an oxford astrazeneca vaccines about twelve weeks. In order to give more people protection from at least one does because of limited supplies and the uk's not alone denmark. He's also looking at spacey out. The jabs up to six weeks while germany is considering pushing back the second shot beyond twenty one days however the food and drug administration warns at both the pfizer. Madonna trial data was being misinterpreted and it will be wrong to draw any conclusions about depth of protection from just a single. Does it follows a similar warning by fis of themselves pointed out that the clinical trial data showing ninety five percent effectiveness was based on a two dose regime separated by twenty one days the deadly size covy to virus which is now a suspected escaping from the chinese government run wo hand lab a year ago as cure almost two million people worldwide and infected some ninety million others scientists. Warn that five waterways near brisbane which were once home to australia's unique platypus appeared in no longer have any of the monitoring mammals living there a report in the journal. Australian -nology claims research is looking for platypus. Dna and fifty four waterways around brisbane failed to detect any evidence of the animals in a number of streams areas of concern include the mid to upper brim river west of brisbane scrubby and slacks creek south of brisbane and the gara- and cadrone broke north of brisbane. Taboos had previously been recorded in these waterways by the researchers felted to take any dna multiple sam sites despite repeated efforts a new study shows that crops grown you the chenobyl atomic power station still contaminated you to the nineteen eighty six nuclear accident. Scientists analyze the range of grains including wheat rye oats and bali and found concentrations of radioactive isotope strontium ninety and caesium one thirty seven. Well above ukraine's official safe limits in almost half of all samples the study by the university of exeter and the ukrainian institute of agricultural radiology also examined would samples finding three quarters contained strontium ninety concentrations above ukrainian safe limits side is analyzed one hundred sixteen grain samples collected between two thousand eleven twenty nine teen from both just outside the exclusion zone and from a location fifty kilometers south of the power plant. This noble nuclear disaster occurred on april. The twenty six nine hundred eighty six when the number four reactor at the nuclear power plant exploded during safety test. Explosion was eventually blame on design floor in the ibm k. Type nuclear reactor which was commonly used throughout the soviet union and still commonplace in much of russia and former eastern bloc countries today and you study claims having some ever caddo every day is good for intestinal health. A report in the journal nutrition found avocados a rich in dietary fiber and monounsaturated fatty acids nutrients that improved physiology of intestinal micro biota as well as its composition and metabolic functions. Researchers had previously found that avocados reduce blood cholesterol concentrations the study involved the hundred and sixty three overweight or obese people between twenty five and forty five who are otherwise healthy participants can in between one hundred and forty one hundred and seventy five grams of fresh avocado daily as part of a meal or an ice caloric control meal once per day for twelve weeks. Researchers found that people who eat avocado every day had greater abundance of got microbes that breakdown fiber and produce metabolites that support god health. They also had grit and microbial diversity avocado as a rich in fat. The authors found that wally cada group can seem slightly more calories than the control group slightly. 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I guess in america will be no shell would be no but it's measuring the consequences of this and it shows that ninety nine point two percent of shredding had some fear of being with that now thirteen point two percent of the population have severe m five yet this leads to an increased risk of dependence and dangerous use which includes using the phone in the car wash dragging. Which of course is illegal in australia. And in most parts of the world so this is done by research from behavioral words astray which is part of the monash sustainable development institute part of monash university surveyed nearly three thousand australians on the psychological attachment to the phones tablets and they found that neely hotwheel of all participants forty three point three percent i spend upwards of three hours down the final show the stats would be similar in the us and the more that people use the the high the liberal of by the and the greater the risk problematic depended prohibited with us. Now young people like eighteen. Twenty five has the highest level which is no big surprise. Mouths will likely to engage in dangerous houston females again driving trying to check messages or engaging video or watching video content in the cosmos grubbing which of course illegal and industry eighty four percent of the population. Has my boss phone internet extra and there are more my phone. Subscriptions and people a hundred and nine point six per one hundred inhabitants for the study uses number five. You were eleven point. Seven times more likely to have the problematic dependency and ten point three times more likely to fund in it but he but it's like a library classroom or shoot 'em up those fourteen times more likely to engage in dangerous such as well driving cycling or walking book. I mean people themselves. They're probably listen. Podcast they find. They noted that they reach for their phones at different times. People have rule snuck. They're finding dinnertime or two other times. You should try and be present with the people. You'll we'd rather than being sort of hot present checking -cational things but this is the world we live in now. We live in a world where we have our phones and the walls repository of unlimited information in a little tiny gadget that speech in our pocket soon apple making development seem to be i feel the vision permanently through minted reality glasses. So do you suffer from number five if you do. It's an addiction. And i guess you have to try to wean yourself off a little bit. I'm so a halfway there. I guess i I don't need to be on my phone all the time but i do need to know. It's very my pocket. Lifted in the car or of lifted somewhere then. The anxiety rises. Well i do remember that. Even in the days when nookie ruled supreme that people they didn't have the funds when the left. Sometimes i would turn back and go and get it and that was back then but today i mean look today at least you can have your watch the same number as your i find for example and there are certain android which is the same. It's not the same and you do sort of who you want. your sort of. It's become a habit for us. Also number five is israel and it's you know potentially one of the blessings and the curses of the twenty th century ad celtics our royd from. It y. dot com and. That's the shut for now. Space-time is available every monday wednesday and friday through apple podcasts. I tunes stitcher bugle. Podcast alka casts spotify ache cast amazon music bites dot com soundcloud youtube. Your favorite podcast download provider and from space time with stewart gary dot com space times also broadcasts through the national science foundation on science own radio. 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Tribuna #020 - Juliana Rossi (Silent Cry) - Exterminando os Estigmas do Metal

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Tribuna #020 - Juliana Rossi (Silent Cry) - Exterminando os Estigmas do Metal

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Jonny Dovercourt | Any Night Of The Week

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Jonny Dovercourt | Any Night Of The Week

"Hey everyone johnny dover court. I'm a writer musician concert presenter based here in toronto i'm the co founder and artistic director of the wavelength music series and last year basically exactly a year ago march of twenty twenty published. My first book which is entitled any night of the week a diy history of toronto music nineteen fifty seven did to the two thousand one and so. I'm really pleased to be here to talk about the book on. Welcome to the music high. The following podcast is brought to you by radical road brewery. The best craft beer in the heart of leslie. Bill find him at eleven. Seventy seven queen street east. That's radical road brewery. Thanks so much joining really appreciate your time. My pleasure to be here. I have to ask you about your name. Yes where where did. And i'm sure you've you might have. You answered this question a thousand times Barbara got yeah how did you. Where did the name come from My my real is jonathan bunce. Nothing wrong with that name. Totally solid name. But it's just a little not that rock and roll in. I always sort of having a a a morris stage name and Like a punk next and So used to it used to live on dover road which as noses that lovely northwest surrey north south street in the west end of toronto and i used to live up a learned over corps Back when it was kind of a bit of a distance. Part of the city. When i was still kind of a most people i needed needed scene where they're living annex or candidate marketer queen street in there wasn't really much out of blerk word it was just lived up there because it was cheap and add this crazy place. That was a two floor apartment. That was eight hundred dollars a month. You know that was shared right share bank werner bucks a month in the late nineties and even for the time it was a steel and and no one lived downstairs and landlord is. The main floor is storage and the house detached so we had some rage parties at this place in recorded tons of bunch of there a ban. Would we could set up in drums in do like home recordings. The full ban home recorded there. It was a great. I lived there for seven years. It was a great place and I was dating dating this girl the time and so the story is she She was working at a place in scarborough. Which is ironically where i'm from. And you know living downtown. She lived down the street. For co-worker worker lived up the street also endure and so i ran into her co worker on the way the subway. When i was going to work at my day job than i weekly where doing the concert listings. The time so The friend got to work some girlfriend and said oh johnny dover court citing this morning it could end. This girlfriend was the first person. I people to start telling me johnny as well. She started calling johnny a man. So this lovely ex of mine as being the person who brought the johnny record character to life and then i it was a a use it as a byline as columnist. I weekly made a lot of silly stuff. I think actually wrote about the spice girls. Were the first time. The johnny gilbert aliens uber like or reviewed. The i can't remember exactly but reviewed the spice world sequel or something like that you know and And then when we started wavelength The pen name that use in the whaling zime and that's what it became more bike my way link alias and so everyone in the music scene knows being you know was just having a rap name. Yeah you're pumped in so short. Everyone calls chris. Jericho chris jericho. I don't and it might be his legal name. But i think it was irvine or something he's lasting and everyone has Most blood will. The music scene have more humble birth. Name's bono the edge off jaded ak james offered. Yeah he's stated bowie else. Cooper's real name like vincent worcester birders since outcome very you know a very square name something to be said for rock and roll names. Yeah right it's about self reinvention. So i don't know i just always felt when i when i started discovering that name felt like it felt like the more relaxed person that always wanted to be relaxed version of myself so i'm current scarborough resident. Oh nice where at where currently i'm near parkway mall so a hop skip and a jump away from where maestro fresh wes own ice was inspired to write Let your backbone slide from bursts out. Just north of glen our. That's where you're from. Well that's no that. I that i just know that from a maestro song from what are the but what. What part of scarborough were you brought up in from west hill so around the so further east of their ironically like around morningside kingston highschool of wilburn collegiate which was the School yeah like the so. Actually it might have seen one of their one of their earliest gigs Assembly high school. They were finishing high school. Run the time. That i was starting like. I was in grade nine when they were starting out and they were twelve thirteen. At least to me this page and robertson that is yeah. There used to be this This scarborough music camp I can't remember if it was on the manitou land or were was but I think those two war camp counselors but sounds right a sound yet groups that sounds right definitely very they were very much products of the music's like system. Yeah yeah and my sister remembers being I think he played the base She put out a couple of independent cds But she remembers being at one of these camps and they would just as you just say a word and we'll make a song out of it and that's how they that's how they would entertain and then years go by and one of the music. Teachers is getting married. And my sister and jim kerrigan. Who's the bass player End up singing at At this music teachers Wedding sounds about right. Yeah yeah and not to. There's more to this Barenaked ladies storied in how i'm connected to them About eight years ago. I want to say no. Maybe five years ago my wife starts a new job. And she's talking with I think the one of the directors of this non for profit organization called park people. Oh yeah okay. And they're they're just talking getting to know each other. Oh you're buried. What is your husband. do he's an advertising. What does your husband do. Oh he's he's in this band barenaked ladies. Have you heard of them. Was who's your. Who's your husband jammed. He's he's he's the bass player you know. So yes that would. That was a funny story. My wife told me and yeah. I mean everything. Everyone has very ladies connections in toronto. Was jim jim like the end of the block of where my last apartment over by trinity bell woods and yet in both my sister and my current girlfriend went suber. Front current partner went to high school with the gregan brothers. Moei collegiate in scarborough is crazy. Yeah it is crazy but Yeah i didn't bump into him this weekend. But i saw him at trinity elwood's Over the wiki walking his dog. Yeah as we were just an out grabbing some some raise interactive but Half the city. It sounds like it was packed. Like i'm still live in scarborough but we went down there to drop something and so my wife said hey. Let's go take a walk in bell woods and i was shocked at how people i'm really not too happy about the people are acting like it's not over. Yeah it's it's it's a weird feeling Being there But anyways it's it is what it is and you know. Hopefully things will will get better and we can go see some live music. Yeah will will people still keep complying and they get their vaccinations. We're still you know we're we're not out of this yet to d- remember the last live show you saw before I guess before year ago. Yes it's actually kind of. It's actually kinda neat. Connect poetic because The last show went to was march. Six twenty twenty at a place called duggan's brewery a little basement venue in parkdale underneath the in the basement of this Microbrews for rapper and is a two of the band. There's three bit three bands. Forget it the third. Dan was but the other two were away forward. Who were celebrating their release of any album and solo project called words. Last and words last is was the new solo project of my oldest friends. Dave rogers the guy started playing music with thirty odd years ago in high school in a way forward is the new van with members of mean red spiders and knack the two bands that played the very first wave length. Show twenty twenty one years ago and it's a few weeks after we just celebrated wavelength of just celebrated our twenty th anniversary so these are like some. You know some of my oldest friends and the person that i started playing music with got me into this whole life you know so it was very it was very obviously had no idea at the time but that was sort of a kind of poetic way to say. Vital music hopefully forever. Yeah and and i guess mark six there was no like no one was thinking like. Is this going to end anytime soon. It was just right on the cusp of it. Because i remember. I remember that those first few weeks pretty clearly because it was right at the same time picking up. My book is my book. Launch party was supposed to be march. Twenty fourth year Moro from when we're speaking and So i remember that week. it was just. I remember earlier that like that same week. Maybe a few days earlier. I went to some like industry networking event in everyone was still kind of doing so kind of joking about it being like oh can we high five. Can we shake hands or you know like. Don't get too close to me. Do you have kobe. Ha ha like. It was sort of at that point where i was one of the last word in person kind of networking things i industry events. I went to not a lot of them but That was arm. I recall there being was at that point where it was just starting to become a thing but it was the following week that subtle that was it was declared the you know the the world health organization or the who world health organization declared the global pandemic and the the the schools were closed announces. They're closing. The school. Is the same day. I went to coach house books. Pick up my first copies of the book while and then we have to sit down at the big table of the coach office in say okay. Looks like we're going to be postponing the launch party. But hopefully we can reschedule it within like six weeks. We were you know. Yeah for sure. All that is crazy. I remember going to I went to see the beaches at the at the Ah danforth musical Great show but i remember that that evening because there was already talk. It was maybe a week before the lockdown There had already been talk of you know crowds and you know there was. There was small cancellations. It was sort of you know going through asia on a new word trotta Think we're like we're we're worlds away from any of this stuff But it was sort of the back of my mind is is. I'm enjoying the show Greg and i we hosted a A producer played some music get at the radical road Literally less than a week before shutdown mad There was a joke about adoree biden. I'll we'll give you a hug anyway. Sort of thing and again you don't think of it. And then all of a sudden boom march twelfth thirteenth fourteenth is like. Stay at home yeah. Heartbreak is going to be three weeks. Let's figure this thing out and and we're still working from home your leader. I mean he knows a unthinkable at the time that they're that like that she took you. We'd said to ourselves a year ago. This you know your life is going to be completely on the mentally altered in change for the next year. You're not going to go out to a live concert or a movie theater. You know Hug your loved ones like that's you know people will just would have thought you were crazy. You know yeah absolutely. I don't know if you saw any of the The videos that were shared on social this past week but crowded house played a show. I wanna see new zealand. That's where they're from. So that makes sense. Yeah and what i saw. And i'm thinking what is this from now or like a year or two ago. Where is anybody was like live. People are started going to shows. Yeah museums back. Australia's back. i even saw. I haven't seen any any footage or anything but yeah i. I even saw an american band announcing australia australian dates. Yeah because they seem to have figured it out there. You know hard lockdown yes. Get rid of it and let's control and none of this nonsense that europe north america's trying to you know balance You know keeping things open and keeping things safe. It's yeah it. They've sort of figured it out the lesson from that from for ozzy's kiwis for sure. Yeah tell me about the start of wavelength. Music was the genesis of that so we started. The genesis of it was in the late nineties. You know i mean the. I started playing in bands that were active in the trial in the early nineties. When i was still in high school or starting university in In the nineties it was. Toronto was very different than music. Scene was very different. It was actually a really great and a lot of ways. In hindsight there is tons of venues. There really good media. You know there was. There is now magazine. i weekly either. Exclaimed radio station know three campus. Radio stations kale. Ncaa t. h. r. y. There is tons of bands but was still really hard to break out of toronto. There is no. There weren't a lot of kind of success stories in indy level. You know you have people sort of like the rio statics or change of heart. Who had been at it for a while. Who kinda broken to. Maybe kind of like a national level of acclaim but even the benthic is still had gig. Ally gave all the time like it was especially for. Breaking out of canada was really hard and It seemed like there was a there was almost like a through force field around the city for indie bands and the There wasn't a lot of support for the local music scene. The they're all the major labels are based here but they religious weren't kind of not interested in taking a risk in anything that wasn't already commercial already kind of a proven commodity And you chasing trends in kind of you know our sort of way So i think the idea with wavelengths was a bunch of us who are all bands. Have just been doing this for a few years. We're kind of frustrated with this sort of like hamster wheel of You know starting a band of making a demo getting some gigs built building up a following saving for money to put out an album you know. Cd and then Hope hopefully getting some press in our eye and then within the next step was just like not obvious you know is really a next step of turing are reaching a bigger audience just seem inaccessible so ended there. Wasn't there wasn't a lot of local support unless for you know unless you you're already at that kind of level of of claim though it was it was a really challenging place for for local band to kind of get to that next rung so the idea was wavelength was to start something that was really all about expressly about supporting the local music scene and doing from artists. Artists centered artist. Run perspective look not doing it from ooh lake. Music industry talent discovery. Kind of Let's break the next big band. Kind of Approach it was released for more about just like the Championing good music for good music sake and and and finding a more authentic grass roots place for artists to network so So we started a we started a weekly music series that was curated and that was also really different because You know there are new band nights. There was all the things that had been going on for a while. Like elvis monday. Which had gone around. Benny venue at that. Point was the alma combo and And then and there was also the new music as at the issue which they are. Dave bozeman recipe. Stable ran that night. And you know those were great night's but they were There wasn't a it was just kind of the bills. The bills or random. You know wasn't there wasn't like cheers of curation with wavelength. It was very much like let's let's put let's think about the bat. The acts with put together cheering interesting experience. Let's bring in interesting visuals. Have performance art and poetry and we had people from the music scene. Dj -ing between sets which was really different so it was almost like more like an arts. This of arts artistic experience right and it was all about accessibility. The knights repaid. We also did a zine. We interviewed impre- social media a in the early days wavelength. The only Like source of promotion. That we did was was putting zine where we we. We have the schedule for each month and we interviewed the band that were playing each night. And we even had a Zine really kind of took on a life of its own columnists even had a record used section for while comics this whole sort of sub cultural experience. And you know we didn't back then. We didn't need to buy ads. We didn't even really need to do street. Postering with zeenat soundscape rotate. This around look cafes will be hanging out with pick up zine and it kind of gave the the wavelength night this kind of like aura. Being bigger than it was nice even though it was just put together by a bunch of musicians with really Anal doing out of out of love and As sort of a real passion project and it grew from there and in the end in kept sort of you know a grew from year to year. Then we got to the point where we are able to incorporate As an as a nonprofit and start to get funding the government you government funding public funding support. What we're doing and now it's twenty one years later which is really hard to believe. Twenty one years. Yeah by the way johnny. I don't know whether you're Mike is being covered by something. But you're volleyball was dropped. Oh no as you're talking but it's okay you sound good still wanted to give you a heads of the think. Sorry say that again shit. This has happened before in this spot the of That's okay we're still. This has happened before in the spot of the of the i had to go into my bedroom dislocated. Get some sense quiet. Not by the bottom my partner. We're in a small place that is fun. That doesn't quite reach year. What if a turn off the camera it actually. It sounded like something dropped or something. Something hit the mike and the volume job with a little bit but otherwise you still sound great. Okay i just wanted to give you a heads up. Just in case nokia. I just don't want you to have to have a problem. Are you sure that. Like what if i thought my video. Maybe it'll draw less power or something if you wanna do that short but otherwise it otherwise. It's all good you not behind her anything. Okay it's it's just the volume that's all. Hey this this is something that we deal with everyday whether it's calls or Or or these you know it's it's Maybe we'll have dogs jumping into camera or kid screaming or whatnot. But it's all it's all good join. It's all good. Hopefully you can edit it all up. Yeah that's that's dregs job. So bully on him for not being here to take notes on on. We're on minutes thirty. Three since i got on. But we're We're we're not that far in the conversation i wanted to ask you about about the book was the i mean it is a it is a. It's not a long book but it's so dense like there's so much in it it's you know. Three with acknowledgements is three hundred. Seventeen pages covers because it covers. Basically a half a century almost of music in toronto from fifty seven to two thousand one But what was the. What was the idea of writing. This book was there. Was something missing that you needed to get everything written down in one spot or what was it. Yeah i just felt. I always felt like there's been a problem documentation in the toronto music scene and Just like a general lack of knowledge of Of what's happened here and it's it's almost like the toronto. The history of the trauma of the toronto music scene was like an urban legend. You know it's like people knew little bits. Bits and pieces. But some and something that i'd always tabs on and it's actually even going back to the start of wavelengths one of the things that we wanted to do even at the started wavelength is like oh need to document the history better because people don't know about all these amazing bands that have come out of here and even just myself just thinking about myself as someone who is deeply involved in the scene in ireland about you know bit about fifth column units thinking about the band that were important to me like undergrad. Heroes like if column or shadowy men the shadowy planet just two names like those A pick those two names because they were kind of examples of sort of the few kind of local toronto any band that were actually able to break out of toronto. Get some acclaim in the rest of the world But even those acts are still kind of often usually left out of the history books and there. There aren't really many sort of history books about toronto Exit was to sort of lake. I you had to kind of pick up. Bits of just pick up knowledge in from here. They're from reading magazines. And you know there is no kind of real docking. No one's ever really done a documentary about about toronto music but starting in two thousand nine there started to be more formal documentation. There is people started released with published books about the punk scene while in two thousand nine. That's really kind of got. What got my brains are starting to. The wheels might bring starting to term like. Oh it maybe. I could write by own. Book was Ah liz words wrote this amazing history of trauma. Pumpkin two thousand nine and that like really opened my eyes. Because i knew about a new of bands like the diodes vile tones canoe. Some of their songs. I new just like little snippets. I knew the vile tones You know had released this. Amazing song called scrimmage fist. In the steve lucky was a gay. Nazi dog Cut himself up on stage. But that's about all. I knew you know in the i knew that the the diodes at britain's great pop songs that they ran their own in their own space called crash and burn. It was one of the first. Diy venues in toronto. But that's about all. I knew either just this little fragments of information so heartbeat. I just wanted to know this stuff for myself. And i wanted to actually try document toronto history and and a new this new little little bits here and their that I do that there. Is this have been this. Great psychedelic scene in new york in the sixties. And that neil. That neil young joni mitchell came out of it. That's about all. I knew i knew a six so i kinda wanted to learn more and go beyond this kind of like really just point form kind of summary of trauma music and really kind of dive into what was what was it like what was actually happening. Who were the who were the bands that were building the scene. Who were the people that were supporting it. And and and kind of link. All these different eras together to try and basically sort of done wanted a telephone of story of the city itself like story. The of the city become the. What's sort of autobiography. The biography of toronto as city Through music and it it it became originally was going to be sort of going to closer to the present day and that became too much of a of a job. And that's why like the book took four years to write and we had to basically cut it in half and that's what ended two thousand one because just the last twenty years so much happened. Post cheat lake post two thousand in the twentieth century. Solingen more happened in terms of just the volume of artists. That have come out here since you know at least since the days when we started wavelength that that would take up. Hold on a second second volume. Yeah if multiple volumes on its own. Yeah maybe so. I had to kind of narrow things down a bit by genre like couldn't had to leave classical jazz for the most part in and and metal in an only barely touched world music and touched a little bit touched a little bit on jazz that more of the kind of a avangard stuff that's more tonight tastes and interests And even a mainstream rock. I kind of really didn't really dive into at much. 'cause i really kind of focused on my own like had to had this reframe things a bit. A my own interest in terms of more like indie alternative rock and reggae and hip hop and eletronic music. Sort of what. I think is think of as being this sort of more progressive vanguard end of so called popular music. Yeah we'll again. It's an tile rights. diy history it's not It's not the history of pop. That's the thing like. I thought the i'm glad you picked up on the net. The diy some people were like what do you mean by diy. history. I don't know what that means and in to me. I thought it was pretty obvious tickets. It's it's my history. It's i wrote. I wrote a diy his your. I wrote my own history of my own. Take on the history of of music in the city whether a band breaks or not as long as it's As long as band sort of did it their own way sort of scrappy didn't play by the rules You know and warrant sort of a a you know. There's no discovery on youtube story. That made a huge. It's sort of you know it's it's it's bands. That are making their own venues. Make their own costumes. Make your own cd covers in in all that stuff right exactly. Yeah totally totally get it. You know they they did it for. They've made music for its own sake because they wanted to and they were driven to and if you know whether or not they made it to that next level of success in no. That's not the that's not the sort of quality in which oh judging. they're worth. Yeah absolutely it could have also been a music venue book. Yeah because you talk about just a ton a ton of venues sort of in passing but you must have learned a ton. I guess also as a as a diy musician yourself but you must have seen a ton of these venues. Come and go in your time as well. well yeah. That's what's in the book went. It went through a lot of evolutions. When i was going with mike. The start the format and structure went through few evolutions when i was working on my editor guy With a couple of different editors on this god bless them on their patients over the four years. That we That took to write this. And you know it was like finding that sort of framework to tell the story through was a bit of a challenge and immense. Why this kind of like two halves of the book the artists half-life profiles and then this chronological narrative which is told through the venues because that was the one thing that really I discovered through writing. This is the importance of these spaces of of the music venues. And how you know they. They became the kind of necklaces for different chapters of the scene. Different areas of the music scene. You know like the the sixties. York villes psychedelic folk. Scene was based you know louis. All sorts of center around this cluster of coffee houses in this sort of two or three block radius of your bill and the like the hunkin new wave scene ends early alternative. Music scene was real was centered around this strip of clubs along queen west and And then even the the kind of Ninety seen that. I was a part of the kind of indie experimental electronic. Seeing that waveland came out of was really based around these sort of scuzzy clubs in the college street kennedy scenario like sneaky. Dee's in elbe combo. Yeah so So that the physical space really became important and also because For for toronto the venues were really the thing that were sort of the most stable in the most reliable at least four small bands. Like you could always. You can always get look somewhere. You couldn't necessarily find someone to help you put your records. There is never until the two thousand s were make the book in until the two thousands of really wasn't wasn't a many local record local indie labels that were were you know capturing the trial the spirit of the short local astronomy is seen and broadcasting it to the rest of the world the way there were other others secondary says cities that the did have success that way the way you know sub pop records. Did this putting seattle on the map or factory. Records did putting manchester in the back. You know these. Those are american british cities that were not the major cities not new york or la and they rip those those labels really kind of like without realizing it kind of market those cities of music musical brand but no one had really done that with toronto. Until i think until the sort of arts and crafts came along and and Answered end drake drake with sound in the hip hop world arts and crafts the indie world But it was it was the it was the club's it was the Places like the shoe and elmo and the bigger places like massey hall that we're really kind of really kind of captured the identity of the city's music. Yeah as you were talking to sort of fell in my head. There's l. makamba really started. This has been around for a little while their own record label might it. Might i think kim kim mitchell just like his latest album is out of l. mccumber records. I hadn't heard that. But i'm not surprised. At the new owner put a lot of money into the renovation and making it you know the state of the art recording studio allies streaming facility. So i wouldn't be surprised if they have also started a label. There's also think this record. Oh ken They're a toronto based cuban duo. I pick this up act seek it is on a what is he's blur west. There's a club on there that this record oh man. It's not a urge not on lula lulu lounge. They've got the la- world records and you know it's funny that i didn't even i didn't even know that. Little have their own label that. I'm not surprised. And the cameron house. The current owners of the cameron house. They have their own label to those guys. It's the it's the kids of the first generation of the owners of the brera 's fair for brothers are the sons of amory The who is one of the original owners again. look it makes sense like venues. Become kind of community hubs right for has like a place where people gather where where artists meet each other. Were you know music. Lovers make friends over a pint of beer like why not You know take the next step and start you know. Start supporting the music in that way by putting a records with people. It's you know it's i think. The music industry especially because like everyone to diversify the music industry because in income streams have been so off so many ways even you know pre pre covid you know in the the record industry especially announced just. This really had a really hard time in the last twenty years. So that's true. Why night remember seeing a shad perform at. I think it's the great hall But i've always been curious. Where where do these start-up hip hop rap groups rappers like. Where do they go. Is there a concert venues or a venue that is predominantly. This is where you go to a discover hip hop in toronto. I'd say no. I think the because the rap music game is just really is not like the rock game. It's not as focused on the kind of live the live performance ladder the same way in alex. Hip hop music is studio music. You know it's all about. May you know hanging on the studio making tracks. And he will guessing on each other's on each other's recordings and the i think like the live show for most rappers a few steps down the road. You know like they they you know it's all about getting tracks up on soundcloud or you know getting getting getting your songs out on spotify and are getting onto the end and then thinking about live shows A bit further down the road. But there's also there hasn't really been. I think it's been kind of a crime that there has been a day dedicated hip hop venue in toronto. I think they had a have to link up hitlerian up and coming rappers have to link up with sort of certain promoters in like certain promoters like Rem g or you added. Jonathan ramos is comes to mind Or the academy presents or manifesto of who you know aren't acting aren't working at a single venue that are kind of because no hip hop are had a hard time inventing is. There was a lot of racism. There's a lot of prejudice a lot of fear of you know the kind of crowds that the fear that crowds bring in violence or you know or word. Hip crowd didn't drink. You know because venues are so dramatic alcohol sales as real hard hard for lot of if bob promoters to access any so. They're often bouncing around from space to space or having to rent many rent calls to put on shows that sorta have in going back to the eighties. That's what that's what it's been like for hip hop music. So you know it's it's it's does definitely a lot more been a lot more barriers and at the trials different overdue for having a dedicated hip hop venue. Were or dedicated black music. Venue for sure Greg i over the past year over the years and months have you know had these discussions aren't enough about venues disappearing In toronto as if it's a new phenomenon But i mean just going through your book. It's like you know you talked earlier about york ville and everyone who's in toronto new york village this really small block of now high end stores or cafes but there was thirty plus venues yeah just in the small footprint is this mind-blowing that is totally mind blowing. Yeah i mean the the york build thing was kind of like getting a chance to look back historically The terms of the illusion of toronto the city the york full thing was really sad because it was this really vital. Cultural district was completely wiped out by the city. Basically on purpose that they wanted it gone they wanted they. They didn't want these grubby. Hippies bring down the property values of this area the of this area that was going to be great for for the business of the city business. The business elite wanted to open hotels and clothing boutiques and things that we're going to bring up the property values and they viewed the coffee houses in the of the hippie. The you know there's a lot of there is a lot of moral panic around. You know this is the early boomer generation like they're the these teenagers who were hanging out in these places were the children of the the sort of the the elder generation. They were very you know. They're really worried about their kids. Really scared the kids. Your kids ridden hooked on drugs and getting into this scuzzy counterculture so they thought the the way the way to save their kids as well as well as to you know make this area more profitable with to just sort of make you get rid of all these coffeehouses make and they made it harder for them to running their business licences and they kind of invented this hippie hepatitis scare the business bape leg health scare that beasley emptied out the area but then sort of in the few years after that like toronto became a bit more like at the political level there is a more reform movement. More of a in the early seventies is like the as as the boomers age up and started to get into power. There was more of an interest in protecting things in the city so he didn't really see anything like that happened again. And over the a kind of like aphids starting in the seventies and eighties like the kind of the toronto. The toronto live club scene or live music scene kind of got into a steady state equilibrium. Where there was kind of like a spatially of set number of clubs clubs closed the new open and that kind of like lasted in the kind of equilibrium. Pretty much until you were. You had this sort of like core of clubs. He could depend on like the least palace and the rivoli in the elmo. Combo ends niki. Dis and The danforth in its various incarnations massey hall and The horseshoe the cameron This the big bought of core of of of established venues that were in a cd tolerated them. City really support them. But it didn't make difficult leader. Tolerated accepted that. They were part of old nightclubs with live. Music is just part of the city People go out to these clubs and they buy drinks and the spiked bike made by concert tickets. And they're staying out of trouble. We're okay with that and then twenty tan is really when things started a starting to change. Where kind of like. The kind of like half benevolent neglect started to result in venues in more venues closing them or opening. Yeah it's it's it was fascinating today. I just happened upon I don't know if you follow ric piano on youtube. I'm sorry that is great. Music channel. just phenomenal he. He did a video today. The greatest singer songwriters ever And three of the top. I think twenty were canadian. Neil young Gordon who number three of men to to to to rick and joni mitchell number one elia and all three of them are out of our out of your ca- ville is so you know so. I found that very timely to watch that video. Johnny wanted to ask you. You've you've obviously Been musician in georgia. I don't know if you still actively obviously not this past year but if you had still been playing in bands but i really wanna know if there's a venue That you know just was one of those places where you loved to play or or maybe you. You hated to play there with a passion but for some for some reason. You talked about that ebb and flow. The venue doesn't exist anymore. You know so. This is part of our lost venues saying exam. I'm curious if there's a lost venue That is close to your hearts. That's funny because you know some venues still exist. But maybe not in the in. In the incarnation that i am that i have the strongest attachment to you. Know i think for me Like the two the two places. I probably loved lehman. Most are still around but are you know are cleaned up and not let 'em glad that they're still there but they're not you know. They're not the scuzzy former selves. That i fell in love with those that will be the main floor of the helmet. Combo an the basement of drake hotel and What's funny is the the preferred for two different reasons. Like the the the basement of the drake hotel in the early nineties was was like hundred the ground zero for any music in that time period and of sort of ninety one. It was only around in that sort of incarnation by william news from ninety one to ninety three and eighteen or nineteen and only ever got the plea there with my high school band when we were just before we broke up when i went away to university so My memories of playing there are very kind of like You know a lot of Was the word adrenaline A lot of adrenaline. You know just like that exciting being really Not being experienced and just being so excited and terrified just pure terror of being on stage which is like you know. We never never feel so alive of just being like can't believe we're doing this. How are we going to get through the set and then it's just like gone. Oh it feels like so long. When you're going to get through the set more as over it feels like it was five minutes But also like getting some meet other people for the first time getting to meet like minded people a you know. I met people. I still see you like regularly. Like burning canning and no events from who played bank called head and brin went on to co found broken social scene grasshopper. Who is you know who's his name is grasshopper in hysteric but he Specked back to having a pseudonym used fronted a band called grasshopper grasshopper records. And just you know. See him. Around the corner eliza around the corner from me you know and that i still yeah people that i still see. It was the first time. I discovered like the sense of having community like these. Are my people like the like minded weirdos. Plu play in bands so in the end the drake you know god bless just over the owner of the drake. I'm so glad he bought that place and fixed it up and is still a venue was shirt will be again. But it's you know to me. It will always be the eleven fifty they we call it the eleven fifty because it was it was either the drake eleven fifty on. It was like really you know it was really scuzzy. Was a was a rundown like sort of flock house upstairs and this amazing like punk rock. Like watering hole in the basement were in l. macondo That also book by william knew who like he was the guy he always. He always knew how to move on to like the. The place was whenever william booked a place. It was always going to be a a friendly place for new bands right and then after the after your book the eleven fifty Move onto move to briefly book. The edgewater hotel which was resort often great shows there too and played a couple of great share. Shows there too but you know don't have as many members of that place. And then he moved onto the alma combo. Where he i think he booked from ninety three to ninety nine if memory serves and The main floor. The elmo was just a place that this actually more as a musician it was in. By that point. I was more s experiencing confident and playing the al mukarram. Oh always spoke like it was. The sound was always good. It was always you know the just the layout of the stage was the right angle You know it was The sight lines were good. It wasn't too high stages to the ground I said it was always a good mix that agreed p at great little house. Pa and it was an easy place to fill. It could get thirty or fifty if you know thirty. Three to fifty of your friends came out. It still felt like places full and and it was. You know loved that plane main floor elmo and that was really sad when a when it got renovated. Because i feel like they. They were the solo at Out a bit emma. And and i'm not talking about the current reynaud mimic the one before that it doesn't one two thousand two wasn't the same something about a you can't really you can't really Sort of intentionally create bat. Sort of sense of sort of scully nece you know. It's sort of like there's something that comes out of neglect. The can kind of create the environment of people. Don't care for some reason. It makes it easier to be yourself or something. It has to be a place where you don't feel you d need to like watch the walls or you don't want wanna scratch something you can't be that per steve. I'm curious if Massey hall started had the plus. She said it was beautiful. But you know before the kirk renovations. I i remember sitting on a chair that That was broken. I think i went to see the bare naked ladies. And if i were moore stays like now you probably speaking as a musician and now as a concert presenter the place i miss the most is ted's yard which is original homa wave leg which is now gone gone like the bill was demolished. Kanda going up there. On the north side on the south side at college street. It's sad you know like hopefully we'll get we'll put up a plaque one day to remember memorialize heads but ted's was the perfect small small venue. Ted's raking it it was. It was still scuzzy but was a step up from the elmo combo had a little more character is a little more intentional. it was like pruthi. You could actually design a space you know. Take it back. You can actually designed you know the have that i've you know to have that true unpretentious via where you can be yourself and feel like you don't have to put on any airs impress anybody you know and and it was very simple. wasn't architect there is a ted ted foot monies in our tax. And you know he. The bar was a slab of ignatius. Rock you know in the in the Slab of stone and there were tire tracks in on the walls and there is just tables had had cancelled on them. It was like there's only one bathroom. The other one was always broke it and it was kind of it was kind of the dump but it was also sort of limited in tension only sort of curated dump and everyone loved head. Everyone loved playing there it. Also i think they actually move the same the pa from memory. They may be moved the pa. But i loved from to. Ted's of mc ted's when when when massar booking ted's in nineteen ninety eight. It definitely stole a lot of the thunder from main florida. Elmo like a lot of people's remove smaller bands at move moog over from there is the elmo had been the kind of hospital two years. And then ted's came to the hawk spot after it was which neighborhood was heads in the tents wrecking yard was in little italy. So weekly college in euclid so like cross for yeah like Soundscape says yes basically. It's just across the street and over a bit from from townscapes. Okay yeah. I used to work at the scotiabank at collagen grace. Yeah close to there. So people get confused with ted's collision which is still there ended up just a bar with actually which actually only called collision. 'cause ted sold the bar years ago but calling it. Ted just have been out of out of out of habit or collisions just was just a bar Kathy they abandoned the back but it was more like just ago. A place where you go for beers and and ted. Ted opens collision. I if you years before we opened the wrecking yard and the reckoner. It was amazing. It was everyone loved everyone. Left lanes are ever beating myself. But it had like the best sight lines of the best sound for a room at size headley's for nixon crannies. Were especially have discreet little space in the back behind like or against the front like on looking over the street next to the bar we did little waveland art installations in our our children. There a broken of seemed is got their start there. We also talk about how as ing was was on gas in like. Nothing's you know. Obviously you know you generational generational you get attached spaces rate in like this but i feel like in the last twenty years. I don't feel like i've seen a venue that had quite the same magic as that space some others have come close but In every generation that gets every generation has their heads around the yard. yes that is so true a johnny. This has been awesome before. I let you go one last question. Certainly we'd like to ask all our guests at this point. What are you currently listening to these days while i listen to wavelengths originally curated playlist released in isolation and it sounds like a self assault from all but you know it's actually like how i keep up to date with all The kerr music is a all of us are involved in wavelength week. Every week we agni tracks this this playlist on spotify. So it's stuff that will it will come up that you know in my release relate release radar or things that you know. New releases will see you know put plug on exclaim or artists putting their own pages together with you know it's all it's always been you know friend for recommendations someone just Just told me about this amazing indigenous musician bass montreal kizzee's k. Is i s released a four hour long album with guest appearances by own hallett and glenn copeland this artists like doesn't even have a website or facebook page. They just have an instagram. And either they've been reviewed on pitchfork. And how kinda crazy. How things work nowadays. Yeah the music. The music is kind of hard a little electro pop a little like art folk cutting uncategorized from sort of aca. I think a a not trans not to spirited indigenous artist I don't know how to pronounce her name. Kiss kiss disease. I think it's just there's there's so much good music being made. It's it's constant you can discover amazing new artists every day. Pretty much so awesome so you listened to release in isolation than keep up with all the latest stuff that the wavelength the brain. Trust are listening to you over here. That is awesome. The book yes is any night of the week a diy history of toronto music nineteen fifty seven to two thousand and one. If if you're a music fan if your history fan of toronto If you want to a list of all of the venues from fifty seven to two thousand and one that were in toronto there's probably at least two hundred venues by name if not more. I actually haven't counted. How many are listed in there. But you're probably right. Yeah and i think that's another book whether you right it you you publish it or edited. There needs to be a venue book. A music venue that does not include library rooms as much as i'm all for artist finding places to play. You know more interested in sort of those those grimy rooms whether they're manufactured like ted's wrecking yard Or whether they're just grimy places like like the old basement the old basement of the drake hotel the real drink underground no disrespect to the current drake underground. That's fancy but no this a johnny. Thank you so much for writing this. I i've enjoyed reading it a so it would enjoy reading the rest for sure. Thanks korean of the jag with you. Thanks for thanks for having me on the show. this has been a blast and I m holding you to coming on again. yeah So we. Because i know greg wants to talk about queen street west and the evolution of all those venues and the music and there's just so much to talk about but again thank you johnnie for spending time with us. Today you're welcome. Let's do it. Hopefully this summer we can gather in person for that second chat absolutely.

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Penis Power

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Penis Power

"Haven't heard about acre. It's the easiest way to make a podcast. Let me explain it's free. Maybe there's creation tools that allow you to record. And eddie your podcast right from your phone or computer anchor will distribute podcast for you so can be heard on. Spotify apple podcast. You can make money from your podcast with no minimum listenership everything you need to make a podcast and download the free up or go anchor dot. Fm to get stuck talking junk into talking junk junk while talking jong as everybody doing tonight. Junkers has everything sunshine. How you doing tonight low sunshine. So i'm just gonna cut right to the chase man. Tonight is a very hard episode. If you're missing it you're you're you're dry out there. You're very limp. He needs to get with the program. You're very flaccid. what's going on here. Limp noodle. let me introduce to you. The man behind penis. Power my helene. How're you doing. I couldn't hear you there brother. What was i say right place at the right time. It's always the right time when we would chew brother a strong man like a chain ready to bounce thrown right we here we here to make sure you get it out throwing my brother. So why don't you tell the junkers out there a little bit about yourself before we start our yes. My name is helene iraq. Man and i started this journey on terms of healing act nineteen ninety seven. I'd come off a A state of depression and use of street drugs on that as a result i became. Hiv and hepatitis c. Pass now young. It's on back in nineteen ninety seven. You develop those team can against it was our i remember. I was ten years old back then so it was. It was pretty embedded in my in my upbringing. So yeah it was a death sentence and so they said that the medication for one would destroy the medication from never. Will scroll miami-dade system. So they left me. Gave me one to three years. Live on this card me to seek other medical and holistic and i began to know us. sound vibrations and drinking water and joy. Comedy fact is knows stimulating maya Happy hills and i changed my diet. Eat tops mind man. Yeah yeah and my body. I d top off and You know they're the healing patch my liberal in both my sisters and i the The death sentence that they gave me Fast forward i Had a bout with diabetes. Because i you know not time. He thinking invincible. I started eating eat. eat eat. eat anything you know. you know. I'm waking up early in a me throughout the night longer You know. I knew the sceptre whilst diabetes and I was diagnosed with. Biden's like i thought i had so i know like my research. Find out what do we heal. Myself and healing myself with the diabetes noticed by my man Started to come back. Because i become totally impotent. As a result of the Diabetes so i did further research and i came to find out that you know the actual health. The nfl of the man in the very thing that means is director. And so i You know. I started when i contest. While it's stashed around just out is a key component of it but No has to be coupled with a good blood flow and What we call the beato zion. So it's three three at a at all Aspects of the total vote relative. And then the mind for that Begins to attract female women to you because the energy of the woman also stimulates you know the flow and desire and no to stop rome bill. When when did you Actually start doing that. How recently did you start going on the end of it. I've been on this journey about two years now. And that's when i decided you know i know a lot of guys ask really suffering from this situation and saying both masculinity And i'm i'm gonna say specifically knack men. Because i say that because i've been you know like europe Individuals i mean they get in the course So it takes a little more convincing to blackmail men because we've been given a stereo type of the mandingo We stat you know. We don't have the same difficulties and other men have. Nevertheless we got the highest rate of prostate cancer diabetes running rampant in our in our biology high blood pressure. You know all the markers that Raise about a lack of male potency. We referred to was his power. You know as blatant power baby absolutely we have those fang are now. We have like even young guys. Young guys like in the twenty thirties having erectile issues gotta by pill different things not the function and the reason blue to and all of that. Yeah i mean it's all right if you wanna take something special occasion you want to get yourself right. You know special occasions but if you're dependent on that as something wrong a you know so what we determine was that we are influences in the environment. And i'm not. I'm not chrissy ferrets. But i believe that some of the stuff is actually promoted It's food that we use Like you know. Individuals eating chicken boxes and chicken. The chicken wing is like good for the hormones that pumped into me as good as and this is our diet you know. Check box You know they church is is. You're going to the gym for goddamn cities and rural will rest relate and i love that breast relation but the issue is these artificial. That's breaking down the testosterone and stimulating. The growth will be referred to as sex hormone binding goblin and then they take hold of the blood receptacle where the natural estrogen and the natural testosterone but will fit to keep us balancing. You know have a function properly. These sex hormone binding goblins sit there and when buying the natural testosterone naturally s just as a result. We can't fucking right strict district you from producing yourself wreck it and you know it it. It affects women to swallow. A out of women are getting fibroids. No avid difficult and going through. Menopause and a real crab on menstrual cycle. Because they're down on. I don't know. I don't know about that crap part. That's just nature. Let i love my women. But they're they're mean when that happens but trust me brother if you believed what her though as all over the place. Yeah yeah the. They shifted with a shift in diet. You know But that's not what s another course. It s another course before us men it it like restricts trap and hold would be called the natural testosterone and prevented for flowing throughout i bluffed rain to vital organiser. Need that for us to function. You know now a lot of times you know. We get punked not testosterone again enter. I love this world but we don't have free to warm. The test disastrous does not free and as a result you know the pinas which owes being abrek saw it will semi semi rat or even saw not stage To the point where. I was without beginning turning. Get no action. You know then you get a little action and then some accident fully wet as so what. I am determined. I'm sixty six years old. You know my determination young. Yeah you go there you go. You know what one wretched won't be back like. I work when a teenager yet. Oh yeah the room you go get on that right okay. So how the stallion and utilization of of that energy So i don't have a pound pound. You know i can still be gentle but i know that i can lack that. I'm you know that. I'm bear as as as before you know or to call performance anxiety. I don't know what was going back. Functional no so That's another big issue with erectile dysfunction hormonal call quarter saw and quarter is the flight or fight among stress. Okay The bills up in us When we went through something You know she yell at us dickhead. Is you know they fucking with you. You put the on them right now. What caused it's a restriction. You know cats and keep it in us. It blocks the natural flow of blood and assassin grown and know the different hormones that we need to function you know and just restrictions so we have to learn how to breathe the detoxing. All those The cortisol out of us and just wanted to things that of program emphasizes now. What do you mean by detox. Well there are. Two different types of in detox. Is the detox. The body because no the call The the heavy metals and sex hormone binding gablers they They multiply we giving and frankly grow they. Just multiply bay. They feed themselves and multiply or wine right and when they when they build up. What they do is rob us of the nutrients because they need new survived to and as they build up and grow they become strong stronger than natural qualities that we have not sounds so they will go back in the day. You spotted humphrey bogart. They take off. See so it's like a war within within. Antibodies that we can't see and they take over and so they you know take the nutrients that we're supposed to get we get and get it all so what we do is d tops. Those things out of us through Sweat through urination and through estra mount out how raw we get you know to get. Rose you want your piss it out with shut it out. You know sweated out all the negative stuff. This us ladder does not been in us for years. First time i detach manage it came out black up. You know crack been been up in me for years. You know now when i detox you know i could see that i'm that i'm clean. You know but i still have. Detox is nice. Dr color correct. It's it's you know you can see that it is clean but it's you know you still gotta pull those things out a yourself so that they can function at a greater capacity. I do it every time. The seasons change. So i'm gonna environment with jesus change four times a year. And that's that's what. I recommend a third you use to cleanse your body. Well i i. Don't i don't like to advertise anybody's product but So i'll say that is a full body detox and sure that you're detoxing when when you Product you purchase that. It has tax of the brain. Blood the pancreas liberty kidneys and importantly for us. Men the prostate. So you looking for full body cleanser not just you're not yet not just the The coleman not just colon cleanse but you want a full body clans and the prostate is so important to us men and if you know we neglected But the the prostate is wanted the three communications centres gland or You know all the glass within the brain specifically the first for some of them as i what prostate k is the first to do everything for some of them. Okay i mean think for week up warning guy. Okay but i'm just i'm just gonna getcha. But yeah the the brain which tells the body what do The prostate which tells the testes produce because in order for order to be seeing reduction. The testing has to be a functioning and the prostate has to be approached me and and and the brain that be clear and so if an individual have prostate cancer and they have to clip them in order to get rid of the answer can't function that's how important the prostate is and As we tend to neglect One of the things that we have do cleanse ourselves anal anal cleanse. Because you know all the toxins from you know our rectum seeks over to the prostate. And i would equality bladder. You know we don't drink a lot of water. the our selves those types rules the bladder. From the top directly from the words overtime to weaken prostate and the prostate again speaks to the testes. So we have to keep all those things cliff balsam improper. It's one of the reason why i called. This program is course a healing e. d. s. at out because we work internally Cinema thanks a lot of guys. Don't realize that and side fellas. The strength of the penis is not on the outside. But rather it's on the end and that inside a penis if you take a diagram of see that was on the outside. But it extends to Have an internal expressions and what that is is like when we were in the first trimester. Gooden determine what the child was was going to be a girl or boy because everything was inside of itself. And you know when we start to get identity are already head to promise zone. And so i'll peanuts drops an element that stays inside and that element is what gives. External penis is the power stocks within. It's like everything else is consistent throughout nature. everything starts inside out scenario and that's the pocket. We men tend to glad because we don't see it you know we don't see the internal pena's always see the external penis so it ain't working right go to the store and fill making you work. You know as opposed to change in our diet and We have a k. To seventy five percent plant based diet seventy five percent and the and the other is wow salmon while tuna. Wow macro chicken. If it is free ranged and it hasn't been puffed up with you know autumn artificial estrogen and audit of stuff. So we got to be real careful. Arnold chickens chicken box may you know. Yeah so Yeah we got a look from the inside out is not that you only describe your course or can you give us like a couple of examples that you can maybe Club at maybe can help somebody that is maybe a stager leg the example of what somebody to do internally to help this out not giving away the secrets. Of course something that gives us an idea. What what you're talking battle more. I think i'm i. I've be giving it you know tax. That's i mean that's critical. The mental the mental aspect of the types. That speaking i just spoke up the physical within the mental as the detox in the taking ourselves out of the frame of mind that this culture what is inching and and realizing i've been hitting that it but now say clearly that our strength internal spare the feminine aspect around masculinity is what we got a call to strengthen masculine aspects. Now get you get you a chee to to maintaining an erection you you you you. You straw that that dick. How nicer strong and you wanna go on inside the woman being eight yay sharing done there. How hard you up. But steady rain is the race. Maybe if you wanna last it's a stroke is like pull in. That's feminine standing out is masculine so if we want to build on the endure inspector is with the breath rewards really exercising and everything is all in flow. So on the actual we're sending out our testosterone. Believe believe me. You strengthen that pelvic bone pelvic muscle you sending it out quoted in you. Send it out. She feels she feels it. You know and and secret. Yes for some sequels Women are attracted to women women in the feminine aspect of a woman is attracted to feminine. Social telling me right now is. I shouldn't go to the gym. And i should keep these cities and my wife will be just fine and she is not attracted to too masculine to she ever greater attracted you to match list. But the trust factor that she has is when when when she can she can feel feeling is is a feminine trait. So when you pulling her into you with the stroz you pulling. Are we talking about energetic. So you with the stroke. And your body kinetic. Okay okay we cover terrified how what on it. I'm just saying you talking about the the vibrations that both thrown off his baseline essential feeling. You're giving to each other. You go there you go and i'm also talking about how to door how laugh when you Get the Get the technically doubt. And i have it. In course Stroking techniques And digital spy in the deep spot and you'll pulling the energy of our energy mtu and then sending them helene stop pounding it out and make love there. You go man. Crane can play a net. There you go. Yeah but the first course get their car at. That's a big part of it to get one if you just squish jellies. It's not stop thinking. It's our job to get it like that. There's things you can do exact to get the lottery report. She's got a slap in a little bit eight hour. Wake up this thing on. oh so i. it's all good. You know free in the mine and and being at ease oneself and just go with the flow and learning techniques. Beautiful thing crude Types of workouts are like things you can do to increase the blood flow. I know you had mentioned that. His website okay. Cool if you're going to his website right here conscious a conscious consultations right here. Penis power down here by the disclaimer. The fine print says videos are located on the last page of the program. I'll nice so i'm guessing there's like exercises and stuff in there. Yeah so there's A booklet that we include that Explains the diet of what we need to consume it died. This is one of the reasons why women to purchase the courts of well because you know of data was fixing food so they know exactly. What the putting Diet so it portion for to heal the blood urano brother make love not war. Exactly you know we we you know. We're not exclude now. Ladies let them be a of they wanna be waiting dependent on him. No we We building ourselves up and that building us up. Want to track down to the one a change this because one thing about four encourage arrogance Met we have a tendency once. We get that that strip than we become arrogant so i incurred ding with our ladies Because our today we we we. We worked better together. Then guess each other saying the booklet apportioned for the blood vessel cleaning blood vessel and Make more elastic and Opening soda at the blood can flow better cleaning up the blood and then their portion that increases the food that we leave out the beato. I didn't food portion of the foods that we take to increase our And react to stand around Then we moved over to the exercise portion and again see. I'm i'm sixty six years old. I don't look like a bodybuilder. You know and i. I know you'll have to look like a body building to this physician. But you do have to be consistent so Exercises that worked to build up the pelvic region pelvic reason that is so central for pitas pow. Because that's what is going. Back course thrust yes. Build up that the entertainers. The penis is what we want to be strong and when we feed ourselves the proper nutrients than you know. all of our orders are vital. Orders work to feed an appearance and we build it up. Would recall exercises in building. Up the other pelvic region we're able to feed external and it becomes. That will strong so we do co. exercise distressing exercises cheek on or yoga. Whatever form of of stretching that you preferred of due to send the energy throughout the body testosterone goes throughout the body throughout the whole flow and so it is the thing that we call the cheer crear yoga shape we just shake shake everything up so yeah and you know all the now flowing. So we'll engage mates you know. We already had state of peace. We ain't kidding. Let's go now. Some women like their shit. Y'all sad that's what she liked. No problem but we have to have his actual consent correct we deal with the whole raid masculinity from the the gentle to rough We have a portion in deals with the different forms of sexuality term raw sex Gentle sex special sex sex or the big who We call the chat chat off. You know he shot caller and You know he's dominant rod. And the shock collar they operate from a dominant position and then the gentle and the special they operating for more kind and gentle place so we deal with the full range of masculine expression. Gotta be in tune which yourself. Yeah yeah but you can call either one up at will you know you have to be locked into one particular Model whenever you a you know your came will warrior your soldier. You'll god man whatever you want to refer yourself at. You have the capacity to become what you desire to be. At a given moment you know a. k. One day you might want to give her a bath be gentle kind sweet holding in Until all kinds of wonderful things about us so you know listen he maybe give it a voice one of real sweet journey ride on space mountain. Baby i got that gentle flow. Yeah i got you. That's what's up you know. And then i have a section that deals with stroking techniques No so you're not only given them the secrets to getting all that viagra and blue shoe and all those toxins that they're using to what they think is make their soldiers stand at attention but it's really harming them 'cause now they need that to perform each and every time your show in dumb a more natural way of doing it from within eating right detoxing your body and you're also telling them how to give it to their lady offer a hundred and forty nine ninety nine steel and steel f. I feel like we're taking from you at that point. Yeah what is okay. Because one of the things that i've i determined is it. I don't wanna out price the individuals that can really need. Like i say many guys you know i. I did a podcast Your you know you got funny. Accent got child. Mesa understand what he's saying. You know after the audience you know from your brothers like you know. I don't understand it but i do understand it And and so you know his his issue away from wave from overseas right and york native. I'm living in florida. We over here you go. And and we don't have to like perpetrate with this course you can take it. You know you'll have to let everybody know that you know you taking a course. You're you gotta broadcasting. Latino prowess is a schiff. You i understand you know with is black man. We got a car to facade that you know a number wrong with a mind old old. You can't see your weakness right. At least that's what we were taught taught that and i think that's the stew identified. He makes the worse. Yeah yeah i think. I think we need a healing space. Where a man can come together and nestle much crown w show hooters but can share some stop. Can we a place. We gotta place. Brothers called the break room. We operate on saturdays. And you can talk as much. Shouldn't as you walk or is that right. Oh yeah my guy told me that if on definitely will weigh on actually tomorrow night we're talking about the. Cdc was that a talent cdc's of the apocalypse. They have a guideline for zombie apocalypse on their websites. Talk about that samuel. I'm evan official official guidelines for that. They say it's tongue in cheek with dinner just like yeah but you know we did it. And it's like yeah it talk about the same way the same way the us made the dealer trade and it's fictional. All you have heard about that. Maybe that'll be another episode. No i knew about that stupid shit going on out there while that i believe your net. You don't have to prove i can. I know that stupid shit is still going on. You'll have to be connected at all but thank was in dallas. I'm stupid shit right right. We create our own reality. Man we can be. We wanna be got permission. You know to be strong be collected to build our own economy to build our own future will look at us now. 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NEW: Jonny Dovercourt | Any Night Of The Week | Welcome To The Music

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NEW: Jonny Dovercourt | Any Night Of The Week | Welcome To The Music

"Hey everyone my name's johnny dover court. I'm a writer musician concert presenter based here in toronto i'm the co founder and artistic director of the wavelength music series and last year basically exactly a year ago march of twenty twenty published. My first book which is entitled any night of the week a diy history of toronto music nineteen fifty seven did to the two thousand one and so. I'm really pleased to be here to talk about the book on. Welcome to the music high. The following podcast is brought to you by radical road brewery. The best craft beer in the heart of leslie. Bill find him at eleven. Seventy seven queen street east. That's radical road brewery. Thanks so much joining really appreciate your time. My pleasure to be here. I have to ask you about your name. Yes where where did. And i'm sure you've you might have. You answered this question a thousand times Barbara got little. Yeah how did you. Where did where did the name come from my my real. Is jonathan. bunce nothing wrong with that. Name totally solid name. But it's just a little not that rock and roll in. I always sort of having a a a morris stage name and Like a punk next and So used to it used to live on dover road which as noses that lovely northwest surrey north south street in the west end of toronto and i used to live up a learned over corps Back when it was kind of a bit of a distance. Part of the city. When i was still kind of a most people i needed needed scene where they're living annex or candidate marketer queen street in there wasn't really much out of blerk word it was just lived up there because it was cheap and add this crazy place. That was a two floor apartment. That was eight hundred dollars a month. You know that was shared right share bank werner bucks a month in the late nineties and even for the time it was a steel and and no one lived downstairs and landlord is. The main floor is storage and the house detached so we had some rage parties at this place in recorded tons of bunch of album. Is there a ban We could set up in drums in. Do like home. Recordings the full ban home recorded there. It was a great. I lived there for seven years. It was a great place and I was dating dating this girl the time and so the story is she She was working at a place in scarborough. Which is ironically where i'm from. And you know living downtown. She lived down the street for co-worker worker lived up the street also endure and so i ran into her co worker on the way the subway. When i was going to work at my day job than i where i doing the concert listings the time so The friend got to work some girlfriend and said oh johnny dover court citing this morning it could. This girlfriend was the first person. I people to start telling me johnny as well. She started calling johnny a man. So this lovely ex of mine as being the person who brought the johnny record character to life and then i it was a a use it as a byline as columnist. I weekly made a lot of silly stuff. I think actually wrote about the spice girls were the first time the johnny gobert aliens uber like or reviewed. The i can't remember exactly but reviewed the spice world sequel or something like that you know and And then when we started wavelength the pen. Name that use in the whaling zime. And that's what it became more bike my way link alias and so everyone in the music scene knows being you know was just having a rap name. Yeah you're pumped in so short. Everyone calls chris. Jericho chris jericho. I don't and it might be his legal name. But i think it was irvine or something. He's lasting yeah and everyone has Most blood will. The music scene have more humble birth. Name's bono the edge off jaded ak james offered. Yeah he's stated bowie else. Cooper's real name like vincent worcester birders since outcome very you know very square name something to be said for rock and roll names. Yeah right it's about self reinvention. So i don't know i just always felt when i when i started discovered that name felt like it felt like the more relaxed person that always wanted to be relaxed version of myself so i'm current scarborough resident. Oh nice where at where currently i'm near parkway mall so a hop skip and a jump away from where maestro fresh wes own ice was inspired to write Let your backbone slide from bursts out. Just north of glen our. That's where you're from. Well that's no that. I that i just know that from a maestro song from what are the but what. What part of scarborough were you brought up in from west hill so around the so further east of their ironically like around morningside kingston a high school of wilburn collegiate which was the School yeah like the so actually. It might have seen one of their one of their earliest gigs at a spirit assembly high school. They were finishing high school. Run the time. That i was starting like. I was in grade nine when they were starting out and they were twelve thirteen. At least to me this page and robertson. That is yeah. There used to be this This scarborough music camp I can't remember if it was on the manitou land or were was but I think those two war camp counselors it sounds right a sound yet groups that sounds right definitely very they were very much products of the music's like in system. Yeah yeah and my sister remembers being I think he played the base She put out a couple of independent cds But she remembers being at one of these camps and they would just as you just say a word and we'll make a song out of it and that's how they that's how they would entertain and then years go by and one of the music. Teachers is getting married. And my sister and jim kerrigan. Who's the bass player End up singing at At this music teachers Wedding sounds about right. Yeah yeah and not to. There's more to this Barenaked ladies storied in how i'm connected to them About eight years ago. I want to say no. Maybe five years ago my wife starts a new job. And she's talking with I think the one of the directors of this non for profit organization called park people. Oh yeah okay. And they're they're just talking getting to know each other. Oh you're buried. What is your husband. do he's an advertising. What does your husband do. Oh he's he's in this band barenaked ladies. Have you heard of them. Was who's your. Who's your husband jammed. He's he's he's the bass player you know. So yes that would. That was a funny story. My wife told me and yeah. I mean everything. Everyone has very ladies connections in toronto. Was jim. Jim lived like the end of the block of where my last apartment over by trinity bell woods and yet in both my sister and my current girlfriend went suber. Front current partner went to high school with the gregan brothers. Moei collegiate in scarborough is crazy. Yeah it is crazy but Yeah i didn't bump into him this weekend. But i saw him at trinity elwood's Over the wiki walking his dog. Yeah as we were just an out grabbing some some raise but Yes with half the city. It sounds like it was packed. Like i'm still live in scarborough but we went down there to drop something and so my wife said hey. Let's go take a walk in bell woods and i was shocked at how people i'm really not too happy about the people are acting like it's not over. Yeah it's it's it's a weird feeling Being there But anyways it's it is what it is and you know. Hopefully things will will get better and we can go see some live music. Yeah will will people still complying and they get their. Vaccinations restored that you know. We're not out of this yet to d- remember the last live show you saw before I guess before year ago yes. it's actually kind of. It's actually kinda neat. Connect poetic because The last show went to was march. Six twenty twenty at a place called duggan's brewery a little basement venue in parkdale underneath the in the basement of this Microbrewery or rapper and is a two of the band. There's three bit three bands. Forget it the third. Dan was but the other two were away forward. Who were celebrating their release of any album and solo project called words. Last and words last is was the new solo project of my oldest friends. Dave rogers the guy started playing music with thirty odd years ago in high school in a way forward is the new van with members of mean red spiders and knack the two bands that played the very first wave length. Show twenty twenty one years ago and it's a few weeks after we just celebrated wavelength of just celebrated our twenty th anniversary so these are like some. You know some of my oldest friends and the person that i started playing music with got me into this whole life you know so it was very it was very obviously had no idea at the time but that was sort of a kind of poetic way to say. Vital music hopefully forever. Yeah and and i guess mark six there was no like no one was thinking like. Is this going to end anytime soon. It was just right on the cusp of it. Because i remember. I remember that those first few weeks pretty clearly because it was right at the same time picking up. My book is my book. Launch party was supposed to be march. Twenty four th which is a year ago moro from when we're speaking and So i remember that week. it was just. I remember earlier that like that same week. Maybe a few days earlier. I went to some like industry networking event in everyone was still kind of doing so kind of joking about it being like oh can we high five. Can we shake hands or you know like. Don't get too close to me. Do you have kobe. Ha ha like. It was sort of at that point where i was one of the last word in person kind of networking things i industry events. I went to not a lot of them but That was arm. I recall there being was at that point where it was just starting to become a thing but it was the following week that subtle that was it was declared the you know the the world health organization or the world health organization declared the global pandemic and the the the schools were closed announces. They're closing. The school. Is the same day. I went to coach house books. Pick up my first copies of the book while and then we have to sit down at the big table of the coach office in say okay. Looks like we're going to be postponing the launch party. But hopefully we can reschedule it within like six weeks. We were you know. Yeah for sure. All that is crazy. I remember going to I went to see the beaches at the at the Ah danforth musical Great show but i remember that that evening because there was already talk. It was maybe a week before the lockdown There had already been talk of you know crowds and you know there was. There was small cancellations. It was sort of you know going through asia on a new word. Trotta think we're like we're we're worlds away from any of this stuff But it was sort of the back of my mind is is. I'm enjoying the show Greg and i we hosted a A producer played some music get at the radical road Literally less than a week before shutdown mad know there was a joke about adoree. I'll we'll give you a hug anyway. Sort of thing and again you don't think of it. And then all of a sudden boom march twelfth thirteenth fourteenth is like. Stay at home yeah. Heartbreak is going to be three weeks. Let's figure this thing out and and we're still working from home in your leader. I mean he knows a unthinkable at the time that they're that like that she took you. We'd said to ourselves a year ago. This you know your life is going to be completely on the mentally altered in change for the next year. You're not going to go out to a live concert or a movie theater. You know Hug your loved ones like that's you know people will just would have thought you were crazy. You know yeah absolutely. I don't know if you saw any of the The videos that were shared on social this past week but crowded house played a show. I wanna see new zealand bets where they're from so that makes sense. Yeah and what i saw. And i'm thinking what is this from now or like a year or two ago. Where is anybody was like live. People are started going to shows. Yeah museums back. Australia's back. i even saw. I haven't seen any any footage or anything thing but yeah i. I even saw an american band announcing australia australian dates. Yeah because they seem to have figured it out there. You know hard lockdown yes. Let's get rid of it and let's control and none of this nonsense that europe north america's trying to you know balance You know keeping things open and keeping things safe. It's yeah it they've sort of figured it out. Learn the lesson from that from for ozzy's kiwis for sure. Yeah tell me about the start of wavelength. Music was the genesis of that so we started Agendas of it was in the late nineties. You know i mean the. I started playing in bands that were active in the trial in the early nineties. When i was still in high school or starting university in In the nineties it was. Toronto was very different than music. Scene was very different. It was actually a really great and a lot of ways. In hindsight there is tons of venues. There is really good media. You know there was. There is now magazine. i weekly either. Exclaimed radio station know three campus. Radio stations kale. Ncaa t. h. r. y. There is tons of bands but was still really hard to break out of toronto. There is no. There weren't a lot of kind of success stories in indy level. You know you have people sort of like the rio statics or change of heart. Who had been at it for a while. Who kinda broken to. Maybe kind of like a national level of acclaim but even the benthic is still had gig. Ally gave all the time like it was especially for. Breaking out of canada was really hard and It seemed like there was a there was almost like a through force field around the city for indie bands and the There wasn't a lot of support for the local music scene. The they're all the major labels are based here but they religious weren't kind of not interested in taking a risk in anything that wasn't already commercial already kind of a proven commodity and you chasing trends in kind of you know our sort of way So i think the idea with wavelengths was a bunch of us who are all bands. Have just been doing this for a few years. We're kind of frustrated with this sort of like hamster wheel of You know starting a band of making a demo getting some gigs built building up a following saving for money to put out an album cd and then Hope hopefully getting some press in our eye and then within the next step was just like not obvious you know is really a next step of turing are reaching a bigger audience just seem inaccessible so ended there. Wasn't there wasn't a lot of local support unless for you know unless you're already at that kind of level of of claim though it was it was a really challenging place for for local band to kind of get to that next rung so the idea was wavelength was to start something that was really all about expressly about supporting the local music scene and doing from artists. Artists centered artist. run perspective. Not doing it from oo lake. Music industry talent discovery. Kind of Let's break the next big band. Kind of Approach it was released for more about just like the Championing good music for good music sake and and and finding a more authentic grass roots place for artists to network so And so as we started a we started a weekly music series that was curated and that was also really different because You know there are new band nights. There was all the things that had been going on for a while. Like elvis monday. Which had gone around. Benny venue at that. Point was the alma combo and And then and there was also the new music as at the issue Which you know they are dave bozeman recipe. Stable ran that night. And you know those were great night's but they were There wasn't a it was just kind of the bills. The bills or random. You know wasn't there wasn't like cheers of curation with wavelength. It was very much like let's let's put let's think about the bat. The acts with put together cheering interesting experience. Let's bring in interesting visuals. Have performance art and poetry and we had people from the music scene. Dj -ing between sets which was really different so it was almost like more like an arts. This of arts artistic experience right and it was all about accessibility. The knights repaid. We also did a zine. We interviewed impre- social media a in the early days wavelength. The only Like source of promotion. That we did was was putting zine where we we. We have the schedule for each month and we interviewed the band that were playing each night. And we even had a Zine really kinda took on a life of its own columnists even had a record used section for while comics this whole sort of sub cultural experience. And you know we didn't back then. We didn't need to buy ads. We didn't even really need to do street. Postering with zeenat soundscape rotate. This around look cafes will be hanging out with up zine and it kind of gave the the wavelength night this kind of like aura. Being bigger than it was nice even though it was just put together by a bunch of musicians with really Anal doing out of out of love and As sort of a real passion project and it grew from there and in the end in kept sort of you know a grew from year to year. Then we got to the point where we are able to incorporate As an as a nonprofit and start to get funding the government government funding public funding support. What we're doing and now it's twenty one years later which is really hard to believe. Twenty one years. Yeah by the way johnny. I don't know whether you're Mike is being covered by something. But you're volleyball was dropped. Oh no as you're talking but it's okay you sound good still wanted to give you a heads of the think. Sorry say that again. Should this has happened before in this spot the of That's okay we're still. This has happened before in the spot of the of the i had to go into my bedroom dislocated. Get some sense quiet. Not by the bottom my partner. We're in a small place that is fun. That doesn't quite reach year. What if a turn off the camera it actually. It sounded like something dropped or something. Something hit the mike and the volume job with a little bit but otherwise you still sound great. Okay i just wanted to give you a heads up. Just in case nokia. I just don't want you to have to have a problem. Are you sure that. Like what if i thought my video. Maybe it'll draw less power or something if you wanna do that short but otherwise it otherwise. It's all good you not behind her anything. Okay it's just the volume that's all. Hey this this is something that we deal with Everyday whether it's calls or or or these you know it's it's Maybe we'll have dogs jumping into camera or kid screaming or whatnot. But it's all it's all good join. It's all good. Hopefully you can edit it all up. Yeah that's that's dregs job. So bully on him for not being here to take notes on on. We're on minutes thirty. Three since i got on. But we're We're we're not that far in the conversation i wanted to ask you about about the book was the i mean it is a it is a. It's not a long book but it's so dense like there's so much in it it's you know. Three with acknowledgements is three hundred. Seventeen pages covers because it covers basically a half a century. Almost of music in toronto are from fifty seven to two thousand one But what was the. What was the idea of writing. This book was there. Was something missing that you needed to get everything written down in one spot or what was it. Yeah i just felt. I always felt like there's been a problem documentation in the toronto music scene and Just like a general lack of knowledge of Of what's happened here and it's it's almost like the toronto. The history of the trauma of the toronto music scene was like an urban legend. You know it's like people knew little bits. Bits and pieces. But some and something that i'd always kept tabs on and it's actually even going back to the start of wavelengths one of the things that we wanted to do even at the started wavelength is like oh need to document the history better because people don't know about all these amazing bands that have come out of here and even just myself just thinking about myself as someone who is deeply involved in the scene in ireland about you know bit about fifth column units thinking about the band that were important to me. Like undergrad heroes. Like if column or shadowy men the shadowy planet just two names like those A pick those two names are kind of examples of sort of the few kind of local toronto. Any band that were actually able to break out of toronto. Get some acclaim in the rest of the world But even those acts are still kind of often usually left out of the history books and there. There aren't really many sort of history books about toronto Exit was to sort of lake. I you had to kind of pick up. Bits of just pick up knowledge in from here. They're from reading magazines. And you know there is no kind of real docking. No one's ever really done a documentary about about toronto music. But starting in two thousand nine there started to be more formal documentation. There is people started released with republican books about the punk scene while in two thousand nine. That's really kind of got. What got my brains are starting to. The wheels might bring starting to term like. Oh it maybe. I could write by own. Book was Ah liz words wrote this amazing history of trauma. Pumpkin two thousand nine and that like really opened my eyes. Because i knew about a new of bands like the diodes vile tones canoe. Some of their songs. I new just like little snippets. New the vile tones You know had released this. Amazing song called scrimmage fist. In the steve lucky was a gay. Nazi dog Cut himself up on stage. But that's about all. I knew you know in the i knew that the the diodes at britain's great pop songs that they ran their own in their own space called crash and burn. It was one of the first. Diy venues in toronto. But that's about all. I knew either just this little fragments of information so heartbeat. I just wanted to know this stuff for myself. And i wanted to actually try document toronto. His and and i knew this new little little bits here and there new that I do that there. Is this have been this. Great psychedelic scene in new york in the sixties. And that neil. That neil young joni mitchell came out of it. That's about all. I knew i knew a six so i kinda wanted to learn more and go beyond this kind of like really just point form kind of summary of trauma music and really kind of dive into what was what was it like what was actually happening. Who were the who were the bands that were building the scene. Who were the people that were supporting it. And and and kind of link. All these different eras together to try and basically sort of done wanted a telephone of story of the city itself like story. The of the city become the. What's sort of autobiography. The biography of toronto as a city Through music and it it it became originally was going to be sort of going to closer to the present day and that became too much of a of a job. And that's why like the book took four years to write and we had to basically cut it in half and that's what ended two thousand one because just the last twenty years so much happened. Post cheat lake post two thousand in the twentieth century. Solingen more happened in terms of just the volume of artists. That have come out here since at least since the days when we started wavelength that that would take up. Hold on a second second volume. Yeah if multiple volumes on its own. Yeah maybe so. I had to kind of narrow things down a bit by genre. You know like. I couldn't had to leave classical jazz for the most part in and and metal in an only barely touched world music and touched a little bit touched a little bit on jazz that more of the kind of a avangard stuff that's more tonight tastes and interests And even a mainstream rock. I kind of really didn't really dive into at much. 'cause i really kind of focused on my own like had to had this reframe things a bit. A my own interest in terms of more like indie alternative rock and reggae and hip hop in electronic music. Sort of what. I think is think of as being this sort of more progressive vanguard end of so called popular music. Yeah we'll again. It's an tile rights. diy history it's not It's not the history of pop. That's the thing like. I thought the i'm glad you picked up on the net. The diy some people were like what do you mean by diy. history. I don't know what that means and in to me. I thought it was pretty obvious tickets. It's it's my history. It's i wrote. I wrote a diy his your. I wrote my own history of my own. Take on the history of of music in the city whether a band breaks or not as long as it's As long as band sort of did it their own way sort of scrappy didn't play by the rules You know and warrant sort of a a you know. There's no discovery on youtube story. That made a huge. It's sort of you know it's it's it's bands. That are making their own venues. Make your own costumes. Make your own cd covers in in all that stuff right exactly. Yeah totally totally get it. You know they they did it for. They've made music for its own sake because they wanted to and they were driven to and if you know whether or not they made it to that next level of success in no. That's not the that's not the sort of quality in which oh judging. they're worth. Yeah absolutely it could have also been a music venue book. Yeah because you talk about just a ton a ton of venues sort of in passing but you must have learned a ton. I guess also as a as a diy musician yourself but you must have seen a ton of these venues. Come and go in your time as well. well yeah. That's what's in the book went. It went through a lot of evolutions. When i was going with mike. Let's start the format and structure went through few evolutions. When i was working on my editor guy worked in with a couple of different editors on this god bless them on their patients over the four years that we That took to write this. And you know it was like finding that sort of framework to tell the story through was a bit of a challenge and immense. Why this kind of like two halves of the book the artists half-life profiles and then this chronological narrative which is told through the venues because that was the one thing that really I discovered through writing. This is the importance of these spaces of of the music venues. And how you know they. They became the kind of nexus for different chapters of the scene. Different areas of the music scene. You know like the the sixties. York villes psychedelic folk. Scene was based you know louis. All sorts of center around this cluster of coffee houses in this sort of two or three block radius of your bill and the like the hunkin new wave scene ends early alternative. Music scene was real was centered around this strip of clubs along queen west and And then even the the kind of Ninety seen that. I was a part of the kind of indie experimental electronic. Seen that waveland came out of was really based around these sort of scuzzy clubs in the college street kennedy scenario like sneaky. Dee's in elbe combo. Yeah so So that the physical space really became important and because For for toronto the venues were really the thing that were sort of the most stable in the most reliable at least four small bands. Like you could always. You can always get look somewhere. You couldn't necessarily find someone to help you put your records. There is never until the two thousand s were make the book in until the two thousands of really wasn't wasn't a there weren't many local record local indie labels that were were sort of you know capturing the trial the spirit of the short local astronomy is seen and broadcasting it to the rest of the world the way there were other others secondary says cities that the did have success that way the way you know sub pop records. Did this putting seattle on the map or factory. Records did putting manchester in the back. You know these. Those are american british cities that were not the major cities not new york or la and they rip those those labels really kind of like without realizing it kind of market those cities of as music musical brand but no one had really done that with toronto. Until i think until the sort of arts and crafts came along in two thousand Answered end drake drake with sound in the hip hop world arts and crafts the indie world But it was it was the it was the club's it was the Places like the shoe and elmo and the bigger places like massey hall that we're really kind of really kind of captured the identity of the city's music. Yeah as you were talking to sort of fell in my head. There's l. makamba recently started. This has been around for a little while their own record label might it. Might i think kim kim mitchell just like his latest album is out of l. Come records. I hadn't heard that. But i'm not surprised at the new owner put a lot of money into the renovation and making it you know the state of the art recording studio allies streaming facility so i wouldn't be surprised if they have also started a label. There's also think this record. Oh ken They're a toronto based cuban duo. I pick this up act seek it is on a what is he's blur west. There's a club on there that this record oh man. It's not a urge not on lula lulu lounge. They've got the la- world records and you know it's funny that i didn't even i didn't even know that little. Have your own label that. I'm not surprised. And the cameron house. The current owners of the cameron house. They have their own label to those guys. It's the it's the kids of the first generation of the owners of the brera fair for brothers are the sons of amory The who is one of the original owners again. look it makes sense like venues. Become kind of community hubs right for has like a place where people gather where where artists meet each other. Were you know music. Lovers make friends over a pint of beer like why not You know take the next step and start you know. Start supporting the music in that way by putting a records with people. It's you know it's i think. The music industry especially because like everyone to diversify the music industry because in income streams have been so off so many ways even you know pre pre covid you know in the the record industry especially announced just this really had a really hard time in the last twenty years. So that's true. Why night remember seeing a shed perform at. I think it's the great hall But i've always been curious. Where where do these start-up hip hop rap groups rappers like. Where do they go. Is there a concert venues or a venue that is predominantly. This is where you go to a discover hip hop in toronto. I'd say no. I think the because the rap music game is just really is not like the rock game. It's not as focused on the kind of live the live performance ladder the same way in alex. Hip hop music is studio music. You know it's all about. May you know hanging on the studio making tracks. And he will guessing on each other's on each other's recordings and the i think like the live show for most rappers a few steps down the road. You know like they they you know it's all about getting tracks up on soundcloud or you know getting getting getting your songs out on spotify and are getting onto the end and then thinking about live shows a bit further down the road but there's also there hasn't really been. I think it's been kind of a crime that there has been a day dedicated hip hop venue in toronto. I think they had a have to link up hitlerian up and coming rappers have to link up with sort of certain promoters in like certain promoters like Rem g or you added. Jonathan ramos is comes to mind Or the academy presents or manifesto of who you know aren't acting aren't working at a single venue that are kind of because no hip hop are had a hard time inventing is. There was a lot of racism. There's a lot of prejudice a lot of fear of you know the kind of crowds that the fear that crowds bring in violence or you know or word. Hip crowd didn't drink. You know because venues are so dramatic alcohol sales as real hard hard for lot of if bob promoters to access any so. They're often bouncing around from space to space or having to rent many rent calls to put on shows that sorta had in going back to the eighties. That's what that's what it's been like for hip hop music. So you know it's it's it's does definitely a lot more been a lot more barriers and at the trials different overdue for having a dedicated hip hop venue. Were or dedicated black music. Venue for sure Greg i over the past year over the years and months have you know had these discussions aren't enough about venues disappearing In toronto as if it's a new phenomenon But i mean just going through your book. It's like you know you talked earlier about york ville And everyone who's in toronto new york village this really small block of now high end stores or cafes but there was thirty plus venues just in the small footprint is this mind-blowing that is totally mind blowing. Yeah i mean the the york ville thing was kind of like getting a chance to look back historically The terms of the illusion of toronto the city the york full thing was really sad because it was this really vital. Cultural district was completely wiped out by the city. Basically on purpose that they wanted it gone they wanted they. They didn't want these grubby. Hippies bring down the property values of this area of this that was going to be great for for the business of the city business. The business elite wanted to open hotels and clothing boutiques and things that we're going to bring up the property values and they viewed the coffee houses in the of the hippie. The you know there's a lot of there is a lot of moral panic around. You know this is the early boomer generation like they're the these teenagers who were hanging out in these places were the children of the the sort of the the elder generation. They were very you know. They're really worried about their kids. Really scared the kids. Your kids ridden hooked on drugs and getting into this scuzzy counterculture so they thought the the way the way to save their kids as well as well as to you know make this area more profitable was to just sort of make you get rid of all these coffeehouses make and they made it harder for them to renew their business licences and they kind of invented this hippie hepatitis scare the business bape leg health scare that beasley emptied out the area but then sort of in the few years after that like toronto became a bit more like at the political level there is a more reform movement. More of a in the early seventies is like the as as the boomers age up and started to get into power. There was more of an interest in protecting things in the city so he didn't really see anything like that happened again. And over the a kind of like aphids starting in the seventies and eighties like the kind of the toronto. The toronto live club scene or live music scene kind of got into a steady state equilibrium. Where there was kind of like a spatially of set number of clubs clubs closed the new open and that kind of like lasted in the kind of equilibrium. Pretty much until you were. You had this sort of like core of clubs. He could depend on like the least palace and the rivoli in the elmo. Combo ends niki. Dis and the danforth in its various incarnations at massey hall and The horseshoe the cameron This the big bought of core of of of established venues that were in a cd tolerated them. City really support them. But it didn't make difficult leader. Tolerated accepted that. They were part of old nightclubs with live. Music is just part of the city People go out to these clubs and they buy drinks and the spiked bike made by concert tickets. And they're staying out of trouble. We're okay with that and then twenty tan is really when things started a starting to change. Where kind of like. The kind of like half benevolent neglect started to result in venues in more venues closing them or opening. Yeah it's it's it was fascinating today. I just happened upon I don't know if you follow ric piano on youtube. I'm sorry that is great. Music channel. just phenomenal. He did a video today. The greatest singer songwriters ever And three of the top. I think twenty were canadian. Neil young Gordon lightfoot who number three of men to to to to rick and mitchell number one elia and all three of them are out of our out of your ville ya so you know so. I found that very timely to watch that video. johnny. I wanted to ask you. You've you've obviously Been musician in georgia. I don't know if you still actively obviously not this past year but if you had still been playing in bands but i really wanna know if there's a venue That you know just was one of those places where you loved to play or or maybe you. You hated to play there with a passion but for some for some reason. You talked about that ebb and flow. The venue doesn't exist anymore. You know so. This is part of our lost venues saying exam. I'm curious if there's a lost venue that is close to your hearts. That's funny because you know some venues still exist. But maybe not in the in. In the incarnation that i am that i have the strongest attachment to you. Know i think for me Like the two the two places. I probably loved lehman. Most are still around but are you know are cleaned up and not let. I'm glad that they're still there but they're not you know they're not the scuzzy former selves that i fell in love with those that will be the main floor of the helmet. Combo an the basement of drake hotel and What's funny is the the preferred for two different reasons. Like the the m the basement of the drake hotel in the early nineties. was was like hundred the ground zero for any music in that time period and of sort of ninety one. Only around in that. Sort of incarnation. By william news from ninety one to ninety three and eighteen or nineteen and only ever got the plea there with my high school band when we were just before we broke up when i went away to university so My memories of playing there are very kind of like You know a lot of Was the word adrenaline A lot of adrenaline. You know just like that exciting being really Not being experienced and just being so excited and terrified just pure terror of being on stage which is like you know. We never never feel so alive of just being like can't believe we're doing this. How are we going to get through the set and then it's just like gone. Oh it feels like so long. When you're going to get through the set more as over it feels like it was five minutes But also like getting some meet other people for the first time getting to meet like minded people a you know. I met people. I still see you like regularly. Like burning canning and no events from who played bank called head and brin went on to co found broken social scene grasshopper. Who is you know who's his name is grasshopper in hysteric but he Specked back to having a pseudonym used fronted a band called grasshopper grasshopper records. And just you know. See him. Around the corner eliza around the corner from me you know and that i still yeah people that i still see. It was the first time. I discovered like the sense of having community like these. Are my people like the like minded weirdos. Plu play in bands so in the end the drake you know god bless just over the owner of the drake. I'm so glad he bought that place and fixed it up and is still a venue was ensure it will be again. But it's you know to me. It will always be the eleven fifty. May we call it the eleven fifty because it was it was either the drake eleven fifty on. It was like really you know it was really scuzzy. Was a was a rundown like sort of flock house upstairs and this amazing like punk rock. Like watering hole in the basement were in l. macondo That also book by william knew who like he was the guy he always. He always knew how to move on to like the. The place was whenever william booked a place. It was always going to be a a friendly place for new bands right and then after the after your book the eleven fifty Move onto move to briefly book. The edgewater hotel which was resort often great shows there too and played a couple of great share. Shows there too but you know don't have as many members of that place. And then he moved onto the alma combo. Where he i think he booked from ninety three to ninety nine if memory serves and The main floor. The elmo was just a place that this actually more as a musician it was in. By that point i was more s experiencing confident and playing the al mecom. Oh always spoke like it was. The sound was always good. It was always you know the just the layout of the stage was the right angle You know it was The sight lines were good. It wasn't too high stages too high off the ground I said it was always a good mix that agreed p at great little house. Pa and it was an easy place to fill. It could get thirty to fifty if you know thirty. Three to fifty of your friends came out. It still felt like places full and and it was you know loved that plane main floor elmo and that was really sad when a when it got renovated because i feel like they they were the solo Out a bit emma. And and i'm not talking about the current reynaud mimic the one before that the two thousand one two thousand two wasn't the same something about a you can't really you can't really Sort of intentionally create bat. Sort of sense of sort of scully nece you know. It's sort of like there's something that comes out of neglect. The can kind of create the environment of people. Don't care for some reason. It makes it easier to be yourself or something. It has to be a place where you don't feel you d need to like watch the walls or you don't want scratch something you can't be that per steve. I'm curious if Massey hall started had the plus. She said it was beautiful. But you know before the current invations. I i remember sitting on a chair that That was broken. I think i went to see the bare naked ladies. And if i were moore stays like now you probably speaking as a musician and now as a concert presenter the place i miss the most is ted's yard which is original homa wave leg which is now gone gone like the bill was demolished. The khanda going up there on the north side on the south side at college street. It's sad you know like hopefully we'll get to put up a plaque one day to remember memorialize heads but ted's was the perfect small small venue. Ted's raking it it was. It was still scuzzy but was a step up from the elmo combo had a little more character is a little more intentional. it was like pruthi. You could actually design a space you know. Take it back. You can actually designed you know the have that by you know to have that true unpretentious via where you can be yourself and feel like you don't have to put on any airs impress anybody you know and and it was very simple. wasn't architect there is a ted ted foot monies in our tax. And you know he. The bar was a slab of ignatius. Rock you know in the in the Slab of stone and there were tire tracks in on the walls and there is just tables had had cancelled on them. It was like There's only one bathroom was always broke it and it was kind of it was kind of the dump but it was also sort of limited in tension only sort of curated dump and everyone loved head. Everyone loved playing there it. Also i think they actually move the same the pa from memory. They may be moved the p. But i loved from to. Ted's of mc ted's when when when masol sort of booking ted's in nineteen ninety eight. It definitely stole a lot of the thunder from main florida. Elmo like a lotta people's remove smaller bands at move moog over from there is the elmo had been the kind of hospital two years and then ted's became Hawk spot after it was which neighborhood was heads in the tents wrecking yard was in little italy so weekly college in euclid so like cross for yeah like Soundscape says yes. Basically just across the street and over a bit from from townscapes. Okay yeah. I used to work at the scotiabank at collagen grace. Yeah close to there. So people get confused with ted's collision which is still there ended up just a bar with actually which actually only called collision. 'cause ted sold the bar years ago but calling it. Ted just have been out of out of out of habit or collisions just was just a bar Kathy they abandoned the back but it was more like just ago. A place where you go for beers and and ted. Ted opens collision. I if you years before we opened the wrecking and the reckoner. It was amazing. It was everyone loved everyone. Left lanes are ever beating myself. But it had like the best sight lines of the best sound for a room at size headley's for nixon crannies. Were especially have discreet little space in the back behind like or against the front like on looking over the street next to the bar we did little waveland art installations in our our children. There a broken of seemed is got their start there. We also talk about how as ing was was on gas in like. Nothing's you know. Obviously know you generational generational you get attached spaces rate in like this but i feel like in the last twenty years. I don't feel like i've seen a venue that had quite the same magic as that space some others have come close but In every generation that gets every generation has their heads around the yard. yes that is so true a johnny. This has been awesome before. I let you go one last question. Certainly we'd like to ask all our guests at this point. What are you currently listening to. These days Well i listen to wavelengths originally curated playlist released in isolation and it sounds like a self assault from all. But you know it's actually like how i keep up to date with all The kerr music is a all of us are involved in wavelength week. Every week we agni tracks this this playlist on spotify. So it's stuff that will it will come up for that. You know in my release relate release radar or things that you know. New releases will see you know put plug on exclaim or artists putting their own pages together with you know it's all it's always been you know friend for recommendations someone just Just told me about this amazing indigenous musician bass montreal kizzee's k. Is i s released a four hour long album with guest appearances by own hallett in beverly glenn copeland. Artists like doesn't even have a website or facebook page. They just have an instagram. And either they've been reviewed on pitchfork. And how kinda crazy. How things work nowadays. Yeah the music. The music is kind of hard a little electro pop a little like art folk very cutting uncategorized from sort of aca. I think a a not trans not to spirited indigenous artist I don't know how to pronounce your name. Kiss kiss disease. I think it's just there's there's so much good music being made. Now it's it's it's constant you can discover amazing new artists every day. Pretty much so awesome so yet listened to release in isolation than keep up with all the latest stuff that the wavelength the brain. Trust are listening to you over here. That is awesome. The book yes is any night of the week a diy history of toronto music nineteen fifty seven to two thousand and one. If if you're a music fan if your history fan of toronto If you want to a list of all of the venues from fifty seven to two thousand and one that were in toronto there's probably at least two hundred venues by name if not more. I actually haven't counted. How many are listed in there. But you're probably right. Yeah and i think that's another book whether you right it you you publish it or edited. There needs to be a venue book. A music venue that does not include library rooms as much as i'm all for artist finding places to play. You know more interested in sort of those those grimy rooms whether they're manufactured like ted's wrecking yard Or whether they're just grimy places like like the old basement the old basement of the drake hotel drake the real drink underground. No disrespect to the current drake underground. Yeah that's fancy but no this a johnny. Thank you so much for writing this i. I've enjoyed reading it. A so foreign would enjoy reading the rest for sure. Thanks korean of the jag with you. Thanks for thanks for having me on the show. this has been a blast and I m holding you to coming on again. yeah So we. Because i know greg wants to talk about queen street west and the evolution of all those venues and the music and there's just so much to talk about but again thank you johnnie for spending time with us. Today you're welcome. Let's do it. Hopefully this summer we can gather in person for that second chat absolutely.

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Tinkoff: Russias Challenger Bank of the Future

Banking Transformed with Jim Marous

46:17 min | 4 months ago

Tinkoff: Russias Challenger Bank of the Future

"Hello walking bank transform your host. Jim reuss own xio the digital bank report and co publisher. The finance of brand founded in two thousand six tink cough is russia's largest online challenge of bank offering a huge raya services including mobile personal. And this is accounts. Investment insurance products as well as being russia's second largest credit card organization takeoff also diversified well beyond financial services including travel ticketing booking to resist all available to its lifestyle to this expanse array of services has led to prophets of over five hundred million dollars in thousand nine hundred with a current customer base of over twelve million customers kickoff consistently wins awards being the best digital only bank serving customers remotely as well as online and a cloud based call centre ti group also have proprietary nationwide network of representatives. That are needed to open accounts. Our guest for the show is out reduce. Co tink off in this episode. We discussed how the combination of the innovative business model. A strong team and a recognized brand can yield success anywhere in the world. Welcome to show oliver first of all. I wanna thank you for joining us today. To share the origins of tink off and how you organizations become one of the largest and most successful challenger banks world with one of the most extensive product lines one. Many of our listeners may not be familiar with tink. Coffee organization has often been named the world's best digital banking organization with you also receive and rewards for your leadership patinkin off. our listeners. May also be surprised that you don't quite have an russian accent so to start off. Could you share a little bit with our audience about your origins how you started off and tink off in kickoff journey since its beginning as great to be on the show so thanks very much indeed following us chin a little bit about the cell phone so names the olim issues which doesn't sound very roshan been most go for twenty years oh my gash. Crumbling russian-speaking voice rush Next to the us. Nice to law school near the side of russia on the Living it all the time. I've been here actually did a russian degree years ago so go the lung connection with with russia. But there's always been a bit of a mystery Pirates as to why told his russian pathan of widens because coupling harare so actually came out to most goto would by continue. Thousands high opened office visa with a with colleagues eventually became head of fees in russia on the points i was pitching for the business against muster called for a new stall two thousand six tinkle on the founder. A serial entrepreneur Looking for someone who visits defensive thing Look very interesting on the market. Was rod before november went so think fourteen years old the the group as a bank so we will fully licensed bank from day one but we actually assaulted operations. Credit company wholesale credit card malign is still unwilling to hand around these days malign put in those days those coffee on the global financial crisis. Kim yellow lights up to off to a lungs commercial. calls to make a few changes to our pricing model because wholesale dried up. So he started taking deposits online Touche's anything online inertia from that. They grew into this big business. That is tonight so we hope twelve minute. Customers way spahn. Most of the financial vehicles will know lennon shore with bolts line trouble asian Ticketing so will will finance Lifestyle digital services on where growing like. There's no tomorrow the moment await. We've had a good year despite state all the troubles this year. How to throw everybody unfortunately undone away thoroughly enjoy enjoying you mentioned about the expansion. That's one thing that's truly amazing is did overall expansion off bank has been nothing short of amazing as you said you. You're into insurance. You're into investments. you're into nonfinancial. What have been the biggest opportunities and challenges. You've seen in building such a large financial organization in russia when you will building out the business. Yeah so we. We had focused on business which was credit calls initially than other deposits calls for funding blues. Pretty focused a ton enrolled in a non combat so visual unknown from around six thousand thirteen On this big diversification honestly said we all did different things that is important so it's mentioned in the context of the answer so we built a transactional business small and medium business a semi. We built a brokerage business which Broker the in russia we also Different lending is lines including collateralized lending queen built in the line bush acquiring business of now become a definitely a third maybe even the second largest acquiring in russia salsa into no payment aggregation businesses. Well we built the lifestyle. So so we both always different votes calls on the line insurer Robot rights so with every business line that was built is hopelessly like a new operational challenges have to hire people will help to make sure that we go. The operational divisions go with because in rochelle seem doesn't really work very well. I'm so we actually moved away from an outsource model from spicer the first year old Thousand seven a built our own platforms everywhere. So it's the. It signed us. Route to build the tech stock on wealth to hire the people to to the logistic servicing. Whatever might be a bit of a challenge your rump heal very quickly and then scaling every business coil thing but some sometimes in a in a country the size of russia With the geographical to cure is the hostile echeverri launch distance between cities throws of some some additional logistical challenges. Nothing the the most important challenge was who was keeping discipline on folks on the bottom line disciplined delivery making show of where we giving not excellent customer experience of which would famous in russia without fully. Apology very quickly in the in the five year period. We seem to done a pretty good job of it. So you mentioned most your all your teachers to build built in house in menton. This set seventy percent of your headquarters staff or it specialists do you also entertain partnerships with non fintech or fintech providers. Out there. do you ever buy a innovations or is it mostly developed from within a couple of deng mentions to the unstop. We are indeed company with a banking licence. So you look at our cool stuff on us around full thousand people. Three thousand of whom would most go a thousand work in development centers alway round brush often of the about eighty percent saw tech related stuff. So stop takes. The scientists are only so technology is design architecture and the developers engineers themselves. So we've we built on an organization which is attractive as an employer to these people with a low of from about thousand people from the leading physics mathematics. Institutes in arusha. I'm so we were able to see in house where we build our own systems in house. we design our own processes. We build up front sons lavar in device in Management house old about a completely tinkle blah does mean to say that we won't palmer away paulo extensively so we pumped with all leading thai companies in russia we with the leading a comb companies classifieds software development complaints of the few social services very famous for its his tech in general Fulgence vague being this market on we will will palmer in terms of payments in terms of development in some experiments. Or whatever it is that we're doing with a very long list of of different policy than we have the ability to help things to offer them on the where are very fortunate to being dependent on Book on started with over. We like in russia. It's one of the few countries i haven't been to yet and it was going to be country. I was going to be visiting this year. Whether if i got a speaking engagement or not. Because there's been so told to me about how beautiful it is and how different. The environment is to bring me up today. But also our listeners. How is the marketplace for innovation. It talent and even how the market is for government regulation within the the area for a challenge of bank. Is it tough to find talent as easy as it is innovation part of the inner thought process of people from russia. And then you know. Has the government been willing to accept most of the challenges and most of change. You try to make it in the bank. Show pretty big question. Is it go place to visit absolutely so it would saying you hit you as soon as the international troubles open. It's a great place to ban with with season england where we don't how seasons is always green and wet. Basically russell seasons the season distinct. End this place. Debate terms of Cross country skiing and all that kind of thing. Mount clemens versus in terms of business environment of say houses challenges by kannada. Consider these days on the a sudden geopolitical angola show which obviously sometimes under the wheels of a business development but in general people when it comes to russia bova as to how vibrant the landscape is the business environment. Because we have amazing talent. Amazing tech tom. Amazing to produce it the a new generation of Who've come up last fifteen twenty years on the still publicize the bubbling up all the time. He'll love close way. Half some of the best designers in the world in terms of interface until this is amazing laboratory this coming on russia with with some fantastic homegrown compass. So you may be familiar with names. Like young. Dixville veto cusp A mail ru obviously Tinkerers is is one of the ecosystem of interesting. Listen this tons tons. Oh so we have amazing talent polio. Especially on the on the engineering side which enables russian company stool social things. But it's also will come so in some ways. The geopolitical situation has actually made russia a coaster this the combs often at the bottom of the list expulsion field proverbial arizona's and apples of the world. So we have them here on the consumer side. So they they sell. Approach allows on is naturally in russia but the opposite facebook and google up law but they have a a small northern shot. So we help. The equivalence of google wishes young bucks. Facebook has conducted etc way. Down the list of so helpful ecommerce components Homeless bloom at the moment with a wild birds verse the guy youngest market so as gulbuddin which means the the tech scene is you'd recognize it bit different when it comes to financial technology fintech on the interesting thing happening in russia which housing opened elsewhere which is financial platforms so takeoff is one of the spellbound The logic don't state in russia largest on Who building out an ecosystem from the financial coal as opposed to help everywhere else in the world which is calm company. Oreal search platform laura Social network adding a financial associates on on the growing a so that the interesting things helping you restore A very exciting place to be at the moment. It's exciting to challenging time. Obviously we mentioned it in and there's been impact of the pandemic especially on fintech companies but not necessarily bad. I believe you said earlier. That your your growth. Lewis has been fairly robust since kobe. But what other things have changed your business model. Maybe maybe some of the innovations you've done that had been brought on by the pandemic and tells a little bit about the growth in the last nine months so every every remote Seculow artists undone versus no exception so does regulates rate could peculiarities which will leave the stump on the way the markets involved in terms of financial technology. As by saying is pretty different. One of the things in russia which is a required by law is a face to face meeting. We sounds a bit bizarre so we top. Kyc with possible check by opponents. It just opened a bank account. The reason why. I'm saying this is because it's also pandemic related. This sounds like a bit of a barrier to business than a bar. It's a technological innovation. Although the central bank is very very progressive. Moved on some amazing. Actually i would call them disruptive things over the last few years. But but we still have this. Kyc anachronism we have five thousand representatives in the failed to fifty thousand meetings every day. This is your golding but nonetheless we use the pandemic to save the things that we could do around the edges to try and a make dismiss slicker on the basically speed up the process on the improve the u x you rolled out some virtual com- also asanga innovative but if you think about a virtual called in the context of having to physical kyc The mostly it puts a new spin on so they'll something of which has given us event incremental growth during the pandemic time mobile bullying so because the kyc requirements is impossible to do mobile and building these in the us uk inverse markets around the world which is given some defensive plays is huge growth of the five six years. We've we've worked out today. Mobile and bowling by reengineering laurel process. Nissim begin the a big cake stop by the funding souls. Host of on the list is pretty long. Open things in lifestyle. For example we switched all of our offline so sister was sold digitally to align this online a home education home fitness and statement for the kids straight meal. Imagine sometimes been Naturally say our time to molecules us have been shortened by the pandemic sitting home. Everybody on the clean dreaming up new products and services fro growing customer base. And we've actually become outside multi nits into our criteria juicy. So it's been an interesting time. You mentioned your distribution is unique in that you have careers you have representatives countrywide that that help you onboard but you also have a chat part supported customer care unit. You you do online as well as mobile. You have all these channels going on. How do you track and monitor the customer journey through these channels and the way that they want to interact and the way and kind of service to say. What how'd you. How'd you manage that. The overall customer journey. especially since. You're pretty much a lifestyle brand and meant to actually be not something stands out there as a separate unit but actually be integrated within a person's life absolutely so wait wait A a number of different business lines so products in different areas not just in finances as i mentioned earlier and each of these different business lines hustle different customer acquisition channels so channels is mainly what based in others. This entirely entirely mobile says mobile only freeze on pulling in investments which is brokerage platform. We built a three or four years ago. If you think robin hood bow better in russia about our investments thoughtful in Foams help some offline distribution as well as through palma's old through our own physical network of the small careers imagining earlier. Oswego your brunches so it will help. Terms of different child's were trying to make the customer experience as interesting on his quick on the convenient possible. Everyone the the the the processes little bit different in each of the different sub channels. A their own bullet depending on the product but most customers are coming through our product which is a mobile up occurrence account a debit card. Basically so you think on the number of lewd chime Those kind of stories saying new bunk the similarities. We've been doing this now for nine. Years is quite a products helpful to many customers that come through this product for us so coming through this. The immediately of they installed the the the mobile app to everything through the mobile mobile up. This is what we help some interesting stuff. So it helped chapels as you'd expect most also seems don't shots. Well the voice assistant which would cold olympic after founder. So you can actually do. Voice comes the Transpose a moment immobile. Top top up on your utility payments whenever you might be elsevier balance abbott also a stuff beyond basic financial services. You can do a lot through the voice assistant. We have a story about so the first financial institution the world to do an instagram type story. Bold which is based on our profile of you in terms of your behavior sealed trouble. You'll jail location mosul transactional behavior If you're finished a group within the tinkle fico system we talk it information In terms of local events use the tapes a general financial advice. Um some offers cashback offers kind of thing while some of cinema such a us but goes whose stories we have mustoe fit in pipeline sims of recommendation engines which also spelled out so little bit late because all sun the the vision for the future is consistently delivered with a very high level of service which revolted always prided ourselves which is why we get these accolades I really do the the best service in market three. Why do we do. This is not sufficiently low level courses. Williams balcon does kind of this down but the happier customers ohio there. Nps on the will likely they'll tell somebody else. So you got this viral effect. Which means the next comes on. Bold comes in a low customer acquisition on so we this viral effect in terms of out debit product for example for the payments that we have brokerage even insurance very important part of the growth story. You mentioned about the decision. Engine used machine learning data analytics to drive consumers to help them. Make the right decision for you. Offer such a wide array of services. What what role does data machine learning. Ai decision engines. All play within tank off. When you're looking at you know your your your goal is to make you can onboard as many services of possible. The consumer tied to try to identify who they are what their mission is. Goals are and then to try to meet them. How'd you that was so many different product lines and What what is your strategy with regard to data analytics. So let's go wait. Well the platform inside which a group of people looseness biblical our allied satan. So it's almost like a central expertise within within tank croup so tinkle split into business calls mentioned donor. So we're very flat. Organization very distributed with shed infrastructure but food stock business lines so the guys iran. The businesses can rollout products and services very quickly. Small market a dual so tests and experiments. The whole time the ones successful scalable on some of the things that they will be using it sums of the shut infrastructure is is research and development from the luna guys is not just machine learning. It's it's all about use of data to drive insight into business as well as by metrics for example so parole new voice authentication system. We've got a face recognition in in our atm network also stuff going. On most of different experiments mushy. Things was scaled up so the different business leaders different business lines will take Tested on if it works Out further so for example would've implementations of these technologies is in customer acquisition in credit cards. So we wanted to do. Soggy customer acquisition. Somebody's shoulder targeting relevance office to the right person at the right time a not wasting money with a shotgun approach which increases customer acquisition of customers because the Respond not utilize credit. Call doesn't obvious classical kind of credit. Cobb former management approach a muscle informed by data. So we made this state so in order to to do the toxic property portfolio management for example on genocide loans oval columns. We managed portfolio by taking data from whatever sources. We come in order to manage risk. Manage limits manage cross sale as well as risk management is full mushroom in the brokerage business. It will be Advising making targeted office based on the rich profile the way half on our investors who tendrils Deposits as a current account customers in small business It will be am l. management's might show. The win opened a full foul of any requirements. The central bank bigalow six hundred thousand small business accounts etc etc. So we use it everywhere but if if we think what is like in the future yes it was. This'll take us. We have this concept of bank. We've actually registered this brand a bank so can our thinking we already have a of this in place but when you to join up so you basically take over. Hygienes transactions into the background so this is utility payments as regular transfers stuff. Rainy boring you you know you might think oh penalties on mula signed whatever so we know because we have the primary count. We know what you do know what you find with. No you've got you go on. We can we can a loose your thoughts seconds of council. You don't need to worry about it. Take into the full ground. All stuff the gives you endorphins that you enjoy so this story related to the kids family stuff travel shopping entertainment sporting events useful contents loyalty. So cashback help some very rich cashback programs on we use the profile of we built upon you in order to drive relevance timely content to you to increase your engagement with us to make sure that your in our interface as the primary advice as much as possible and i was many times you so he's not just altruism but good experience on will provide you with through recommendation engines also different people like you all doing all buying or going to familiar concept but has been donated. Finance anyway is quite difficult to make. It is a relatively low frequency. Type service you call transferred Hundred times a day whereas you can buy coughing on the on by closing the older stuff. Romell grows his russia with with high regularity a high frequency so this is water cooled through in finance but it is possible and we're doing the announcement of futures interesting direction. Which we're going your bank of already going in that direction so that conversion to a bank. It's almost taking place in real time right now. So in the way you're doing banking but it it takes it to the next level and that changes the positioning of financial services to truly be just a functional thing that works in the background to facilitate everything else politics. Is this functional thing. Engine going on in the background. Enjoy the headaches of of look. You know the the the george ray of afonso services but his also being an assistant to you in things that create volume viewers individuals. So how better to manage your willing to invest the site transact to get loyalty rewards whatever might be. I referred to sometimes as you know the goal is to be the financial concierge for a consumer where you actually have an ombudsman. That's working on your behalf. Twenty four seven trying to figure out where your money should be where you can take advantage the best benefits but going beyond that to say you know how in my life can i save money. How in life. Can i buy the things that are right at the right time. Those kind of things so it's quite exciting and your gross shows. What happened when you look at your overall customer base. How would you describe if there's a traditional demographic group that you serve you did a snapshot of your customer base. What's the demographic profile here. Cussin' it's a very good question because wheel spun also different demographics as you can imagine Because we're in a big financial subsidy build finance in in russia but if you look at coal the become of last five or six is young. Urban mobile in sense of the mobile professionals come the provider of choice full young professionals aged twenty to thirty five outside. Also mainly in the big Rollover restoring it'll These people who tend to be engaged in the new economy the wages a growing the trouble. Internationally Full of word middle class of of of russia but young girl. You go down the seconds. The more likely the customer balanced Universities enroll almost certainly in the big cities is to be a tank of coastal in your demographic grouping wit with cohen. Did you end up. Also getting some older customers that realize that since digital banking became really the only way to bank. Are you starting to get some consumers. Trending older who have maybe even their kids have said you know your your banking the wrong way this. This is the way you have to do this. We're a disruptor obviously A witch facing business from of the place from all of the other place influential services as well as bringing new people into the market. But i can't say that we still only stole the show jet during the punday because some people suddenly switched to also it's accelerated lonesome trends in an official actually growing pretty quickly anyway but now growing even more quickly so everything's accelerated listen good competitors in russia's not like him you know everybody was in a coma registered strolled into the waveland. Stolen the show. There's all going on here on the some stiff competition from incumbents who actually going through a digital transformation Time my hats off to them as well as the lowest going. On so it's not it's not a walkover however we as a site of managed to further increase the the rights of growth by bringing mobile customers in selling more products and services to women's during the ecosystem on actually youth is one thing that we've topped two time in the last year year in half. so we have. This thing called tickle junior. I was very surprised. The recently all of the numbers is nelson doubleday offer. A couple of months robes them on his three quarters of a million accounts open through cinco junior until get a mobile around all parents a diplomat since they will the kids are up to on the when they got some sixteen to eighteen bicycle. The move to the the adults Yellow mobile up but especially interesting. Why not just bring your future generations of customers in large numbers but it's also web engaging the takeovers position job really excited today. I'm announcing microsoft has become a brand new thanking transform podcast sponsor. We're really really happy to have them on board and excited about the partnership as we grow at going forward just for all those who aren't aware but microsoft is charters. You're helping bank reinvent. Payments combat financial crime manage risk empowering employees and deliver a differentiated customer experience across all channels and digital and physical world. Microsoft's focus is providing services that facilitated trusted cloud with pervasive intelligence that allows banks to reimagine how they operate and deliver services. If your financial institution that is really looking to embrace digital transformation make your experience better for your consumers and to really look forward how technology innovation data analytics can always together in the world digital banking transformation. Be sure to check out. Microsoft for more information visit microsoft dot com slash financial services in september announce at yan dex. We've already talked a little bit. Russia's largest technology company had negotiated the acquisition of tink off since then. The deal has been dissolved but there recently also been talked about an acquisition by another large financial organization. Why there's so much talk about the acquisition of tink off the first deal. You mentioned with young rice all salting. Unfortunately we didn't get over line. Second was just noise so there was only one day the the the founders of young accenting of were able to start talking about the beginning of the summit because young anex was a site in bed with the largest state-owned bank in russia's beverage co mentioned doja. How the devils annette full for the first time young kadarshian meaningful conversation. Which not for Strategic move will come the station but unfortunately we disagreed tubes on so until isn't going to happen on his can help him right deals on the table. That was the only one that really made sense. It would have created on a national jump in. If you like but it's not gonna happen on takeoff which has existed as we said earlier for fulton years been growing profitably year on year on the setting targets High with a goes flying. We know how to carry on growing profitably under. We have some very ambitious targets. Twenty twenty three. Which is what it communicates the now So we're we're gonna have more copetition with with young bucks right when the grant you mentioned it. Though that the good news is capability is much easier with a digital organization like yours. Your founder has as mentioned. And you've mentioned that there's a. There's a growth goal of twenty million three. You have twelve million right now in the not too distant future as well as profitably to go along with that is scale something. That's important because you mentioned that the competition russia while many don't understand it is not lee big and aggressive but but quite digital. I mean for bank is certainly an innovative themselves. I have you run into quite a bit innovation shows and things like that nature so scale something that takeoff really would like to get bigger faster because of desire compete and get a large share of the customer base on the hope to say about the russian market again. so it's a usual is followed. Two different evolutionary paths but when people from europe and the us measure to some extent or become suits russia the completely blown away as to how sophisticated the mall caissons. I just can't believe it when i go to. Some francisco used to go to san francisco. Recently unpaid using mike stripe in the apple is just amazing to make the extra some because in russia we have by number of payments Trip before the pundit as soon as still turn out the law just of mobile payments in the world so i'm talking. Nfc payments through called royals as apple. Pay google pinal kind of thing. Just you know one of the the numerous daca throat which which would surprise people as to how sophisticated this mock isn't So there's a lot of financial innovation coming from all sorts of different players including maybe surprisingly most surprising. Tony behavior can stay was happening from the largest state-owned banks. Basically with scale it's essential in an online business network fights in payments hidden tiled the network have fights in financial services in general particularly Move a kind of universal financial services providers. Post to a niche boutique. Type play. you need off size because scales columnists of scale but very importantly it gives you the wood of mouth referrals type of phenomenon which was talking about before. So you have relative. If you're the service which gives you know promotes skull. You have high-volume customer acquisition channels. You have a good brand than it means. The each successive co holds customers. That comes in theoretically she'll be getting cheaper. They certainly shouldn't be getting more expensive on the scale related thing. Nobody would say why it's important for us. To to keep on. Going quickly celebrates a growth is because we don't just monetize blown away in on the probate through which they enter the ecosystem wounds. The in will also then sell him of the products and services so this cross selling fight is extremely important so on the logo three or four years ago. We have basically employ woman products proactive customer. Now it's one point full grown a bit this year in three years. Time article. We are five. Years can to produce per customer at the same time we'll be w. customer base so our ability to monetize customers as obsolete enormous. And that's why we'll be doubling our nets I'm over the next three or four years as well so you look in the future. How do you envision the future of kickoff and what of the concepts that. You're working under very talked about the ai bank but but when you're looking at outside services what call the open banking environment nonfinancial. What you see is being the future tank off a bit of an komo's boom in in russia so so the funds fried sophisticated on mccomb cyber rashly. A little bit of a legged the number different reasons but now his going through the roof was saying explosive growth. So russia will show up into komo's where it was already a heads in classified finance in various the of business models this gives us also -tunities to integrate will dude partnerships were unlikely to As no of our organizational philosophy leg until this main were already would've allowed to stay komo's appanah companies through through co browns payments that kind of thing but our ability to to lend to the palm in marketplaces to finance the growth of the businesses. So they can sell most of our ability to finance provide payment services to the bio on those marketplaces so the consumers. So they can buy world stole from the from the pumps as getting says which was so called on. We'll we'll be pulse. The glue of olivet as the market grows styles. Woman's the the dimensions. If you like in which will be growing. The damage has just begun at growth as we bring more customers into ecosystem on the engagements for most of his. We took earlier on the interface. Parts of. But also. I think if you look at how the markets can revolve over the next few years would clearly going to help moves from the tech place not just from from from the financial service providers licensed entities themselves. So you can see. The landscape change really quite quickly on the wheel source of interesting things happening around regulation in ontario on in the business bottles themselves which is like During this conversation but this is committed to watch so when you look outside your organization. What financials toossion do you look at it. And say i kind of admire where they're going and in a non financial way. What organizations do you look at it. And say i like the way. Innovate or the way they. They're building their organization. Both in the as i said both of financial the nonfinancial. What organizations kinda. I'm not gonna say you aspire to what they are. it's all the organizations are so different right. now be but you kinda liked the way they're growing. They're doing business. So we were very outward-looking organization where listed on the london stock exchange for public traded. So so we have the aspect. 'to sunny way but we've always from day one. Being very international organization in outlook Is on inspiration from all over the place so troubled all over the world thing. it's five also launched preneurs uninteresting businesses who stuns out force tencent official. Who will the shots Really liked yeah while think everybody likes that. Let's face it without new bunk. Ls on his team of amazing job in brazil. I'm not something which way like by somewhat moderately to think. We have a bit of inspiration deal around so so david came here to two seats in park in the two thousand eleven on the few ideas which he then obviously adopted an the in amazing business in brazil. We'd like the philosophy of how newborns crowing so it's not just a liabilities led strategy as olympic strategy. As well right we can ties on the out some of the issues. The other fintechs tickle in europe facing now because of go no revenue model the way we live up because we believe the fun. She'll subsidies to have a successful business of the sites tight. Deposits unbathed custodian of the money of people who depositing You have to make money three financially you come close your eyes in Hope that all come together at some point because it might know always be lined up. We'll stone will expand brazilian Out here yeah. Like oak in the uk on the sme. M a lender would say young. So we've got a long list of of likes and also some names that we follow roots for example insurer tons of interesting stuff going on around the world at the moment you know when i got out of the continental united states looking at bank in and look beyond that it was interesting how eastern europe at the time and russia were just so dynamically more innovative. But a lot of with. Because you didn't have as much to tear down. I mean we have these legacy mentalities legacy banking systems legacy regulatory bodies and everything else and it's interesting to see how much innovation still goes on in poland czechoslovakia turkey in russia. And then you now more you see it. We saw in african now a lot of in south america and there's a lot of unbanned consumer so really the digital banking environment really to them very well because you don't have the infrastructure cost and the cost of serve is so much more reasonable for a we bank or for yourself and you don't have all these branches and all of this legs thinking to worry about but you know you've been with the organization for a long time and you're very innovative and progressive organizations. So finally what motivates you personally to just get up and just keep going every day even if it's something outside or inside us a person what what gets your your adrenalin running dick. Just keep on going. I mean it's it's infant gives you see this an entrepreneur. She this in progressive fintech companies. The owners the the people that are that the leadership role really are defined by their passion for the business but the passion comes not always just the internal organization comes on sometimes from outside situation. So what what keeps you going. I'll think three things. So the first is oversight impacts. The i can make the team can make the we can make tim cuff on the financial sector all customers on consumers everyday so we'd take out the pain points would come with new approaches in solutions which helped them live their lives. But don't into sound too high deflategate. But now i'm wave made. Yeah we didn't set out to make a big impact on on the finish landscape to be honest with you just kind of happened over time when you realize that you will make an impact on you. Making a positive impact on consumers is something you get a real boost from. I love it. you know. We're very proud of it the something. I'm definitely going for the head sometimes the night as well especially the the the second thing is sold item is basically create environments in which our big thing Interesting things the building with solutions like on testing sum singing found. Find the an interesting way of doing things that has made the before. The innovations are scalable. When you realize it's having an impact so so the fight the i can help allege bunch of people really creative paypal young talented people. They're stuff that makes an impact on society is also a big open. The bowling with other vega Another thing is they'll go up your thick from the north or england. You have to keep you know. Thousands upon thousands and tens of thousands of people motivated also and they looked to the leadership and in both the positive nato way you know about the legacy bank environment. I'm gone i interview some people go. Jeez oh man. I e interfering in party two times or someplace and chiefs. I just wish i wasn't doing this. You go oh then stop. But the impact that fintech companies are making right now and beyond just the financial wherewithal but especially became evident during covid. That there's a real need for the ability to inexpensively get better financially. And some that you mentioned throughout the conversation around education around content and think beyond just the transactions that they're debits and credits the world. You're you're certainly no longer a credit card bank. It's gone far beyond that but it's been great spending some time with you today. I really appreciate you taking the time to discuss a little bit about what's happened tink off what's happening russia. It's it's something that we're certainly going to revisit again kids. You're you're you're evolve in transforming overtime so thank you very much for being on the show today urged interesting. Thank you thank you. What an interesting interview with our hughes tink off. It's interesting because not many of us. Imagine what is going on in russia just like not many of us understand exactly what's going on. In china with the fintech organization. The challenge of banks tink office really unique in that the breadth of their service offering knicks extraordinary and their ability to continue to innovate and do things that most organizations are just dreaming of. Thanks for listening to banking transformed. Raise a top five bankin podcast on. If you enjoy what we're doing. Please be sure to subscribe to bank. Ran on your favorite podcast app. In addition please take a few moments to give a positive review it lets us know howard doing certainly gives us the springboard bringing more world-class guests to the show. Finally be sure to catch my articles in the financial brand and look for a new research on financial marketing retail banking innovation data and the effect on customer experience. And the future work. This has been a production of evergreen. 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Guru Charitra  Ch 05 Incarnation of Sripada Sri Vallabha  Shree RajShree Maa

Guru Charitra

53:59 min | 3 months ago

Guru Charitra Ch 05 Incarnation of Sripada Sri Vallabha Shree RajShree Maa

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Spectacular Spider-Man #140-#143

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Spectacular Spider-Man #140-#143

"Hi i'm ri- and i'm aaron. Way or spider baby hosts from to know her is to be her a spiderwoman podcast as well as proud members of the collective you're listening to cates an lunatics sidekicks. Enjoy the show deficit. Pick brought to you by tweak. Get awesome ed phone that we thought oh dot com and coupon southgate get thirty percent offering shifting in a lifetime warranty working get there through the link on our website. Southgate media group dotcom luca parents and new orleans ovation. Lunatics sidekicks podcast. I'm here for peter. Roth plenty of peter frank and tombstone wolves. That's right kids. Welcome back to the ultimate spider cast. I am still joining me is always it is and we will take you on country trip. This time. paklin texas was a mad. They do spoke to the real like the weird ones sprawl. A little mad. Here's exactly no minute. Dictation wanted to show you know needed something punisher. We like the latkes. Here we are all right so some off sees yes because we're covering spectacular spiderman. One forty through one forty three lap and load up your your whipping spider fluid. 'cause it's gonna be a long one. Whoa gosh all right so I one spectacular spiderman. One forty all of the cover rendezvous death. July nineteen eighty eighth of course written by gerry conway. Hiller gwen stacy conway. Hey the creator of the punisher. Saudi summa artists. So you know get get right. Hook the right hooked. Yeah so why. Nineteen a zone. Yeah i just gave me like flash that that really crappy punisher movie a war zone. One of the play on two seconds. See that shot of like the camera goes through the sewer. The punisher skull. His name So here we go. Spiderman watches outside the hospital room of joe robertson. Remember that about a month ago on his back broken in that good way heo prerequisite nobody's Cast ready team plus so many prerequisite tear like a ob- not yet not yet. I think that comes in the next issue So yes joe as his family gathered around him. His worst fears have been confirmed. Tombstone had broken jobs back and he could be paralyzed for the rest of his life. I never works. Asked bruce wayne blaming himself barbara hale yeah blaming himself for not being there and time to stop tombstones spiderman slips into a nearby alley to change back in the peter parker he then he then joined the other members of the daily bugle staff. That are waiting outside of joe's hospital room. Peter notes how sad jay jameson looks a show emotion that the bills publisher rarely displays as john and the others arrive. Hire another person now. Oh don't ask me. It's a parody here satire. In peyote heater as they're consoling the failing peter s bent york what. The doctors are thinking about joe's condition. Your conforms that doctors fear that joe might not be able to walk again. This upsets peter who has known joe since he was a teenager. Late one betty. Not that backbreaker will night lose my place in europe informed them that the doctors fear that joe might not be able to walk again. This upsets as peter jones. He was a teenager. I don't thinks. Ben knows that something has been joe for the past few days and ask peter what he knows. Although peter plays dumb busy playing bene- sure that parker might know something because he overheard joe calling him the night before the accident. When penev what. Joe wanted to talk about. Peter tells him that robertson wasn't there when he arrived lots satisfied with this answer. Bentos peter to get in touch with him. Should he decide to talk record year. Don't you better my peter. You take your bets. In the matt murdock. Book growing up once. Everyone has left the hospital. Joe robertson is visited by tombstone. He reminds joe that while he works for the mob. He expects joe to keep his mouth shut. When joe refuses to keep quiet tombstone. Whisper something in joe's ear that stuns joe to silence the a further word. Tombstone leaves the room leaving joe alone with his thoughts. Meanwhile spiderman is roughing up some crooks in a cd dive bar trying to get anti pulling bruce wayne he's upset. He's beaten up on the criminal. Come on pete. We're better than this up on the poor people Yes he's roughly off. Some crooks see part trying to get answers regarding who put out the hit. On joe robertson spiderman gets confirmation that the hit was put out by tombstone who works for the kingpin and the arranger as he learned this spiderman doesn't see one of the thugs pull out a gun and take aim at him however has spider senses taking the holiday. I guess however before the goon can pull the trigger. He has shocking. And the ha. That's spider sense like again However before the Pull the trigger. He has shot by someone else. Spiderman follows after the shooter but loses track of him however iraq. Advertise it on the front of the covers show. Maybe you don't know but this is your mom layers first marvel comic. You might not have known who was however man in the shadows however instead of trying to find who is shooting at him. Spiderman goes the office owned by the kingpin where he confronts the ranger as he is on a call with his employer regarding rolling rayburn cutting off the call legitimate businessman stuff so arcane stocks stock. They we give us two dollars for. That was the best team that come out of that. You know once the once all that went down someone like me and they're like oh now game stop can afford to pay three dollars for your games on craigslist. How me better luck cutting off. The call spiderman demands that the arranger tells him where he can find tombstone however the kingpins assistant whose assistant chose him that their confrontation is being recorded. Hello but okay He can earn. He can use the footage against the wall crawler. This happens again the him that weren't suddenly the guards. Enter the room and spider is no choice but to flee with the wall crawler on the ranger goes into a secret rumor roland. Raymond is being pumped full drugs. That will guarantee his compliance. Okay go have. Oh oh sorry too soon too soon. Don't hustle Secret room that he true to say okay but we will soon. He is minister. Fine soon is interrupted by tombstone. Who tells him that. His appearance in new york city has drawn out someone who's been pursuing him as the arranger had planned he's had pursued it. Was it like when you were to punish me the next day. Peter parker and his wife. Mary jane pay a visit to the robertson's at the hospital. Shortly upon their rival joe ass his wife and m j allow him to talk to peter privately screaming abroad outside of the hospital room. Martha robertson breaks down and breaks down. Just breaks down in tears but someone misspelled as put years them. They're doing the lord barth by making these Injury you leave them alone zelikow. Wait call someone old. They breakdown in years despite mary. Jane's assurances that joe will bounce back from this. Martha believes that her husband's spirit was broken along with his back in the room. Peter is shocked when joe tells him to destroy the recording. He left for him. Joe explains that he was visited by tombstone the night before and the mobster threatened to go after his family and friends. If joe finally told what he knew about tombstone as peter leaves mary jane tells her all about it when she asked him what he plans on mount. Well their partners at this point. We're pretending to give mary jane something to write She asked what he plans on with the recording. He tells her that he wants to follow up with ben urich otherwise he doesn't know as the couple walks away. They're unaware again. The no tingle those pederson single there the fact gil. Someone has been spying on them. When peter arrives at the pew benz position on his situation without revealing any details. About joe's recording. Your tells peter that there are no hard and fast rules regarding an ethical situation like that he then tells peter that The law may has something to say about that but okay well ethical. Not legal then tells peter that someone called for him and let number behind. Peter calls the number back. The man on the other line tells parker that he knows about the robertson recording and ask them meet at liberty island in one hour. Peter changes into spider man and goes to liberty. Island makes his rendezvous as the wall. Crawler waits on the statue of liberty's torch someone in the observation that tries to catch the hero in net launcher. Everybody knows you use rain. Washed the spider gown the drink basic stuff people mysterious stranger. Where did you go to nursery school. They didn't have no whole spiderman swings after his attacker who runs down the stairs of the statue when the web slinger tries to follow. The stranger gunfire keeps him. at bay. Changing tactic spiderman swings outside and tackles his pursuer when he exits the statue much to his surprise. The shooter turns out the be though punisher at the door town. Those white boots gave it away. He's still didn't not tactical at all. But whatever fancy man guys to still may be dead but not the outfit a nice. The philanthropist gun on spiderman that demand turnover the robertson recording tells it and tells them where he can find tombstone. I love how the next issue they take out the punisher. Everybody's will rule. They thank that subtext and sexual tension over. The ranger makes mention of the kingpins. Obsessive medallions daredevil. After tyler this story the kingpin had been focusing. Is intentional killing fair devil. Because it was a tuesday using the assassin using the assassin known as typhoid. Mary seen in their double to fifty four through to fifty nine spot. Continuity can't talk about your subtext kingpin and so what you think one authorized will not yet not yet. It doesn't happen to the little this next issue all right well. The spectacular spider man. Two one one forty one areas big on big in your face on the cover. Don't mess with the punisher. He really should get a better taylor. Kevin replied easy doesn't think we're show us muscles see women rip stock costumes kids lords of went on to call it a day. All i lord. The is on that scholar. Cut out exactly leaves. And it's okay. 'cause they're male presenting nepal's female presenting nepal's kids. Let's nipples come on exactly exactly but tombstone testament pre okay. What is someone's on a soapbox in this issue whom still testament what is black lightning title. Don't be the book. Board of rah veteran the book of tombstone chapter four subsection to all right with a recorded confession from robertson regarding a murder committed decades ago by the mobster named tombstone spiderman. Find himself working with the punisher following the punisher then to the west side marina. The wall crawler is brought to the yacht that the punisher has been using his immovable pace of operations fancy goading. Okay now nathan too easy. I won't allow. i'll be better than that. Oh my god. Peaches swung down and be like frank. Thank you for being a friend. I'll tell you what that names that theme song still slacks s. One of my ringtones travels down the road in her head and back again spiderman is a tree can trust the punisher after the vigilante poured a gun on him when they first met liberty island there the putting a calling card for him there. The punisher explains that he has been tracking tombstone across the country apple. C- monitored his job after learning that's mobster had recently arrived in new york the punish royal oxygen and the punishers making it his business to find out why he wants access to the recorded confession from joe robertson as he believes that it hold the answers he needs knowing that the recordings in the possession of peter parker punisher tells spider man that he will get it even parker and the walker even parker in the wall crawler opposing at that moment outside tombstone and some of his men of track down the punisher to the marina and that big messy van. Yeah oh yeah yeah skull on it. So you know for Should have been like the free one from friends. Man you know you flip the switch and the woman got played up. Oh my lord. The eyes light up sarah area confirming the punishers hideout tombstone tells his minions the wait until dawn attack him but to let the persuader. Do it needs to be done well. let's persuader. He can make your bill cosby joke inside the punishers. You ought vigilante explained that he's been tracking tombstone for weeks after he murdered. Herald allman that deputy district attorney of saint louis with no evidence to prove to murdered allman. He followed tombstone. The new york with his explanations complete. The punisher asked spiderman hand over the recording. I'll ever the wall crawler doesn't have it. The punisher then heads off to convince peter parker to hand it over however spiderman. That'd be funny. You're gonna find parker however spider man assures him. That parker won't do anything to tape. Until joe robertson says otherwise he tells the punisher to cool down and let him talk to robertson and parker insecure the recording the punisher greasy of spiderman until sundown to get the recording. The entire conversation is overheard by tombstone and his men. The murder the murderer the decides to deal with the robertson recording and tells us men the wait to attack the punisher. Meanwhile midtown hospital. Ben urich pays a visit to joe robertson. Joe's son randy tells joe that the doctors discovered that there was no permanent damage to his father spine and he will be back until the end of the I mean like no tension so convenient and he'll be waking up again soon he'll be up walking in sin asking speak the joan. Private ben asked him for the location of recording. Joe tries to pretend like he doesn't know what you're talking about over. Ben knows better jerk lays out all the clues that prove his point he understands shows afraid tells him to talk however joe remained silent in europe. Leaves telling joe he knows where to find him when he is ready to speak The next morning on the golden girl low blanche the next morning the punishers cooking breakfast on his yacht wakey-wakey egg. How'd you like that scene. Well he was just like tau. And now i'm just like well he's me. Then that's what we'll practice frank castle just a towel runs. Waste fraud cooks breakfast and leaves. Yeah that's there you go. You need a boat wealthier. Just throw them overboard. When you're code you. Every time i think about that something at episode. I can't have would right now. I can't be a real pirate our calls for our into town. Our talking ale. Where was it under the gun under powell's hail might have been in prison. Post all came from us. Either from the prison person was hanging on something purse An isolated action scene those men attempt to ambush him however the vigilantes ready for them and kills all but one like the hot bacon on the gun space. What a waste of butter away. How dare you file. Bankable get you be. The lone survivor is blinded by boiling. Hot grease that has forced to reveal that tombstones hideout is in the cloisters while at the condo shared by peter parker and his wife. Mary jane look she has gone on but okay she's like he's really claiming this This confession peter plays joe's recording after hearing it. Peter asks his wife what she thinks he should do. If it were up to mary jane she would destroy the recording and be done with it. She's smart today. Yup in tombstone gets away with it. Business however peter can't bring himself to do it and sides leave it up to joe robertson. The make the choice as he leaves mary. Jane finds herself incredibly worried about her husband's well being because it's a nineties realizes how dangerous has life is and how much she's afraid for him when he goes out spider man. I know the mary jane. Her fears are far more warranted than she would. Like as tombstone arrives in the lobby of their building. Looking for peter. Parker rat. Row shaggy la walking around town like that. He looks like a damn zombie. Whitewater like come on tell you nothing. So armee typing away downtown. They're driving in the battle van. It's fine the gas guzzler soon. The punisher arrives at the cloisters discovers that it is under armed guard. He takes off the two guards with silenced pistol and leaps over the wall there. He's ambushed by army of thugs at. That's got a lot of light. Red of henchman suggest me to the smackdown takes takes these stepchildren By over the wall ambushed by ambushed by army of thugs at the same moment. Mary jane is getting ready for a modeling shoot when she is grabbed by the hair by tombstone. How hell no give them the right given the baseball bat whereas enough ought to be right by the door just for this reason ladies mary. Jane struggles to get free but tombstone is too strong. The brutal killer doesn't want to hurt her than he has to the man's to know working mom where he can find your husband. If you miss later the punisher makes short work of the guards and heads towards the old monastery intent on putting the punisher intent on weight. I don't think punisher intent on pointing in the punisher down tombstone later that night. Oh we've random. Few shows up by the way rushing up to limo. he whips. Open the passenger side door expecting tombstone instead. He find the arranger and a man in a strange costume. The arranger international who is it ranger introduces the punisher to roll in raymond. Remember about a month ago a month ago. Yeah that's the guy tombstones smacking around. You're going to work for the arranger. Who has taken on the costume. Identity of the persuader at that the persuader uses his mutant powers. That's blaming on the mutants. The influence people to take control the punish. The punisher tries to resist the persuader. Unleashes the full fury of his power punisher to keel over in pain. While at that moment. Peter is telling jokes come forward with his confession regardless of how afraid however joe can't bring himself to do it. Suddenly a nurse enters the room and tells peter that his wife mary jane. it's just been rushed to. The hospital has been hurt as peter. Rushes out of the room to see his wife jo roberts and can only lay in bed and cry and one will pau. Oh yes also in. This story mentions how he was almost killed by electro for his investigations. That happened in their devil. Won t one seventy nine. Oh daredevil fighting daredevil need a team up there like crossover collide literally all the time. Yeah that's the buddy cop comedy. On one month we wasted a really good team up on a on the dead pool. Podcast to when we did daredevil spiderman deadpool in punishing so now wait a great one for a daredevil. The you knows better than the devil. You don't we toll. Was it stuff. We got some daredevil batman for you man spiderman over here. yeah june Summer annual those aren't the angels Work at selena might as well be those are like certain annual level antics right there visit. June atlanta's is going to attack kids. Clockwork summertime alright. So like this cover a come on. It's still spiderman book. It's not the tombstone books. So don't hate standing on a girder hanging spiderman ability in it lands only lanta. Have these people ever been to atlantic. Not wanna last but okay. Hey remember when we covered as pittsburgh issues. I mean except for like the stadium and like the park. It was like okay anywhere again. It's like it's against the artist. Sal wasn't premier records pictures and books back then. You didn't need the internet spain to the library. Only but yes Spectacular spider at one forty two from september nineteen. Eighty eight will. Yes that's the name. The name of the story kids will there won't be. Oh no wait. This isn't never going somewhere. Not it depends on what part of atlanta will alright so in atlanta lost by the way because everything's peach tree avenues three lane parkway plaza. Good luck seem it. Atlanta's google maps to by the way so go hang right on peachtree your lane on peachtree avenue exactly it atlanta spiderman swings across the city. Vowing that things with tombstone will end that evening evening with rage. The wall crawler thinks back to the events that brought him to the state of georgia. He recalls how he was at midtown. Hospital asking flashback asking joe robertson. What did he do about the recording. He made confessing tombstones crimes. It was then that the nurse told him that mary jane just arrived in the emergency room rushing to the emergency room peter's relieved to see that his wife only has a sprained arm. She explained the tombstone forced her joaquin. West both heads. I don't read heads taken a beating in these explained. The tombstone forced her to tell him that he was here at the hospital. With joe fearing that the villain might be nearby. A surgeon comes up to the parkers and tells peter that he has a phone call in the nearby payphone papa- as peter's as peter expected. It is tombstone tells parker to turn over the robertson confession warning that he will hurt mary jane more if he refuses creepy no id that by the way. Her hair smells like strawberries and cream. Think he's like. I was saying decided that they should meet in neutral territory. Tombstone those that. Peter is going to be at a book signing at atlanta the next day orders him to meet anna batterman. Wowed damn while the book is about spiderman. Luckily it's gonna make a pump. Public appears for my friend. Parker hearsay when peter arrived in atlanta. There was a note from tombstone telling him to meet at harris square with his recollection over. the trucks. were off spiderman heads to his rendezvous with tombstone. He thinks about how he tries tried to contact the punisher and tip him off but couldn't find him back. In new york city the punisher a prisoner of the arranger and being subjected to the hypnotic powers of the persuader the arranger has his men monitoring the punishers health and demands the persuader. Give him results even though the even though the punishers resisting his influence the persuader is certain that he will eventually crack the vigilante. After one final burst the persuader recoils in pain at first ranger believes that his minion has failed however the persuader tells him that. Give good look at the punisher. Seeing that frank castle's in a hypnotic state and congratulates persuader. For a job. Well done. I mean that's a little bonus for kid. Wow at midtown hospital joe. Robertson is told that his back wasn't broken only produced and compressed told that he will walk. He will walk again chose taken through the rehabilitation therapy as he struggles the walk. His son randy robertson cheers him on struggling to walk. Job gains to elucidate. That tombstone is right in front of him and threatens threatening his family again. Unwilling to surrender anymore. Joe leaps at the apparition which vanishes as soon as he comes into contact. Not seeing this. Randy's impressed with his father. Speedy recovery anger man. It works award. Okay so okay all right. Here's a subplot though. Has nothing to do with this storyline but Yep hoping to get to this something while in well kind of ties in this stuff we do the last two very month wow in lansing michigan. A blonde woman leaves the high school where she works at blackhead man. Yeah they cloned that headband. Every time kids where she works at heads for her car suddenly a craft carrying two hundred individuals blasts her car fleeing for her life. One manages to escape through a sewer pipe. Actually pleased eight. She knows frank castle. Oh she knows that. Peter parker will save her because he always saves her. Well not that one time. He's more experience now. It's fine those better than to do what he did. But that's right. kids up. Blonde wants to phony marsabit. Little precious kona Yeah yeah doubt. I love that. That's the that's the kathy. I didn't know i want. I want our a back in atlanta spiderman waits for tombstone with the recording when suddenly the villain ambushes him knocking the pair off the side of a construction site while back in new york city. Joe robertson is called his family. Jay joni jameson ben. Urich and kate cushing to his hospital room there. He makes another recorded confession of how he allowed tombstone. The kid away with murder. Meanwhile tombstone has the against spiderman at first ultimately spiderman regains his forty and begins beating tombstone in the mission. Yeah and i love those. Those metal pipes man stomach is calling card. He's like joker light. He demands to know why he didn't kill joe robertson. The begin with spiderman shocked. Discover that tombstone considers joey friend in some sick and twisted fashion though. No thank you now. Sexual attention spiderman than strikes. Tombstone with a powerful. It gives them the old salvi semi with upload goes falling off the side of the building But herman praises the killers fall with webbing. But this doesn't stop tombstone from landing in the back of a dump truck filled with cement although the paddle was indeed a blockhead. I mean i guess they wanted to bring him back but enough ironic that a broken tombstones back exactly. But it would have been impressed in bruce and he would have to take three years to rehabilitate. You see some tea in the will hashtag. never forget. Never forget. I love my god. I still can't get over that that mid season there was like. Oh he's gonna use the lazarus pit. Oh don't be ridiculous. We would never do that. Made more sense. Yep it will you get it. Didn't legends figure although the battle was over spiderman grimly. Things that the only way tombstone will stay in prison with joe talks to the authorities in hopes that he does the right thing little h. e. large little the spiderman know that joe is finished making a statement to joan and the others and intends to go to the justice department and resigned his position as editor in chief of the daily bugle where he goes trial for accessory to murder. Oh my god you trash the judge would have been like. Oh yeah you work with jameson. Yeah that's punishment enough just to keep your job. Basically however to jonah. Jameson refuses to allow him to step down telling him that he is expected at work. The next morning. my back. Meanwhile the arrangers watching the news and is disappointed to learn that about tombstones arrests at atlanta however for his next plan he has he has just the operative to carry out his orders. The punishers then called into his office where the vigilante vows to kill anyone. The ranger orders him to eliminate lighted next issue. What are we gonna do. He's not competent. So don't worry about it. But yes i want to cover the evolutionary war someday. So yes kid that that glenn beck when stacy club will show up in spectacular spider man annual eight where they try the red card. Oh yeah there was no clones yet. Models more never create clones created the virus that transforms people into other people which is even worse until until the nineties when they wanna crash grab and they try to read and back. It's murky we'll ever know the truth. Think because the jackal even tells worry. We're getting another call a cone. Worst august we maybe. We'll actually answer this time. They tried the red carpet spiderman. You really think the high of illusionary told you the truth kids. Exactly what's his business. Yes trust guy called. The high of allusion admit has riding the name we're in purple armor. He must be high. The now is the persuader versus the punisher dallas. Well so grab a big battle in dallas while at least we. We won't see ted cruz knowing he's home. He's spoken about taxpayer money. Yeah oh my lord. He was a saturday night. Live last night. There were like showed video like he like he was. I was at cpac or some some appearance in eastern. He's making cancun jokes in you know call joe's even like no no no. You don't do that. That's what you're not allowed to do that. That's not yours. That's for the rest of us don't you. So we are. Open this issue on the golden girl like all issues. The punishment should just on a boat. I think that's what i've decided. We need to bring this vote back when deadpool in punisher do their team they have to have this vote decided. Make it happen. That is the be deadpool's new boat. Golden girls be arthur. Come on be arthur arthur zone but yeah spectacular spiderman. One forty three from october nineteen eighty eight. Oh i know why raden send feedback for this one because the tombstone gets the feed. That's why his boy gets defeated. He's down. I know he doesn't even have any powers yet. This harold him and made him his ass seeking to upgrade tubes. That was a normal human being. I mean ray lakes when he's hard. Remember 'cause ray likes it hard out. Sorry i have to cut that out. That has to drop see what happens with. He'll send feedback drop. What the yeah man give give tomb seventy or right whole kim. The oda couple of bowls down the goal so yes one forty-three deadline in dallas spiderman. Spider-man returned to the punishers you ought to find armed guards on board award eaten as bacon the ambushes them demanding though. We're the vigilante is he. Rounds them up in learnt that these men were trying to trying to rob the yacht and it has nothing to do with the punishers. Disappearance must know who both that was because they would even dare news bella you still making. He web's the crooks up for the cops and swings away wondering what happened to the punisher little the spiderman. No the punisher has been brainwashed. By the rangers. Minion known as the persuader. The paris just landed at the dallas airport where the punishers recognized by security guard when he tries to wrest the punisher. The persuader uses mutant powers to make the guard. Let him let them go. However this displays witness by a reporter who thinks this will make you great new story as they move on the persuader remind the punisher. They're here on business for the kingpin looking at a newspaper. The punisher sees that the mobsters known as the lobo brothers were freed after a mistrial. Here i keep threatening at one day. We have to do that. Lobo brothers wore. Oh my lord. The king pin it all. That's just the right amount of wacky meeting where kids rather meeting where wolves my god the punisher responds by telling the persuader to tell him who he needs. He needs killed back in new york. City arranger meets with the kingpin and goes over his current plans. he explains how we hired tombstone. The procure tombstone procure ron elma. Somebody had at dc on the brain to procure ronald raymond. Lord ronnie jag writing raymond into this. I think he's suffered eighty with the power. Persuading i think he has his molecular With raymond they They brainwashed the punisher into their service to assassinate the lobo brothers texas drug dealers. He fears will soon become competition on the new york scene. However the kingpin is not interested. Reminding the arranger that he doesn't care about his organizations day to day care soon about the business as he has focused all his efforts on destroying daredevil again sexual tension sends what he sends like typhoid mary in a break up his relationship i mean there is sexual tension. Oh yeah no doubt secretly plotting to overthrow the kingpin the ranger fan to make his employer regret his disrespect. Oh who's gonna take. You are definitely not his waylon. Smithers for sure. Meanwhile waveland smethers would never be us. Okay that's clone fund. Meanwhile a young woman takes takes a hops off a bus in columbus ohio. She's normal finding me here. She's on place gang straight. Nobody's gonna find your mike's place she's been on the run since she was chased by armored bendinha. A fine craft in michigan. She's trying to get the new york city so she can get help from peter parker unfortunately as the bus pulls out it is attacked by another ship of armored individuals. They are purifiers listed by the high evolutionary to capture the woman because he got a bowl because he got evil unfortunately like the team before them. This woman manages to capture with her pursuers gone. The woman races often off into the night but not to the moonlight. Podcast some fancy man at the concert. back in new york spiderman is finished his search for punisher for the night as he swings toward a trendy bar he thinks about how. That's not trendy. Oughta guys hitting mary jane. Most votes rates will trendy. Now that mary james he thinks about how busy his life has got lately with the publication of his book webs subsequent subsequent book tour as well as mary. Jane's recent kidnapping at the how at hands of jonathan caesar airs continuity kids rowley member. The locker room kids sticks and stone. Yeah changing back into peter parker. The hero joins his wife just as she is turning down a grupo. A group of men trying to pick her up at the bar never tresco stockbrokers. That's for sure looking for a look like the trading room floor. In her bedroom they over their way. She's she assures peter that he has nothing to be gels about is they are happily married. Peter never seen what wash mortgage robbie peters in the middle of telling mary jane how he goes back to talk about how he's going about going back to school when they catch a newsradio. Lord leave it alone. Peter you're never going to get that You keep them busy every couple of years But he sees a news report about the punisher being cited in texas. Seeing this peter decides to go to texas right away much to the annoyance of mary jane in texas the punishers come to her hurtling refinery refining refinery company at front for the lower brothers illegal drug smuggling there he decides send him example by gunning down the guards and blowing up the facility. The next morning electees competent always hypnotized the wrong time. The next the next morning. Peter uses his press agent to get him an appearance in texas for his book webs in order search for the punisher. Oh look he's gonna make some bucks while here come on you know he mary. James got crowds guys stockbrokers clamoring editor. You know at her knees. You know he's got he's got a bringing that money. Somehow that's right kids in one thousand nine bruce to show up liver new car or anything in nineteen eighty king. Fees was king of the book tour. Make that book real. They should if they did. They did as far as i know the i. Oh it was like a bunch of pictures. Maybe oh here this is when they could have made it like the hyper realistic cover. All the pitchers could account event like a madman. Exactly does it still by all basically be is pictures barely. Have a christmas album seriously. Needs a couple of little captions at the bottom. Here's the i thought. Here's the first battle between spider man and the sandman when he when he vacuum up into vacuum cleaner. I really truly desperate for spiderman content. That's what they'll do. It didn't take that picture at all as he arrives. In town he reads about the punishers attack on the refinery. He asked his agent about the lobo brothers and learns earn alert. They appeared in south texas about a year before and quickly rose in the ranks and became big time drug dealers in the state trying to secure themselves. They had just recently set themselves up in a mansion in crepe grapevine lake soon panty drug money peters at a book signing in as soon able to take a break so he can change in spiderman and search for the punisher. He goes to the lobo brothers mansion crepe fine lake when he arrives he's he's too late to stop the punisher in the persuader from forcing themselves onto the property and killing the lobos guards when the low brothers mentioned the kingpin begins confusing the punisher however before he can kill the brothers spiderman leaps in the stop the punisher however a straight shot manages the go off. Striking karla carless logo in the shorter during the struggle. Harry shoulders warrant will come on during the struggle to punish her throw spiderman into the lobos in ground pull and attempts to drown him during the confusion. The lower brothers managed to our. He gets it. he's been happening. Use water to kill spiders. It's right there in the nursery. Rhyme spiderman manages the struggle free but his leader grazed by a bullet kingpins gunman minute spider sense. Really took a vacation. Set this Mad the web slinger out briefly to find himself at the mercy of the punisher however when the persuader orders the punisher to kill spider man. however the punisher can't take the life of an innocent and breaks free of the the persuaders mental control the punisher nat love. Oh yeah man. Breaks the spell on freight he then guns down the persuader and his gunman spiderman is furious at the punisher killed the persuader pointing out that they have lost a source of evidence. The shut down the kingpin once and for all however he'll get to it eventually however try seriously over. The punter isn't interested. In spider-man's morality tells the hero that he will deal with the kingpin in his own way soon his own way sometime soon with the punisher gone spiderman also the parts intending the finish his book signing head home in the aftermath of the battle the lobos emerged from their hiding place and vowed to get revenge against the kingpin meringue sandiego. Lilith only have to cover that. Yeah seal accuracy in the well. Let's see the eighties. They were doing the con- at that actually might be pretty accurate because they were doing counts for a really long time. So yachts and stuff out on the bay inside. It's actually pretty low. Key like scotland net. As you think it'd be actually the off the water saying boomerang story will come back around to it eventually. He'll ask like. I love grabby as much as the next person. But you know teams by I didn't need all his backstory. All these shenanigans with tombstone get aussie fan boy to send feedback on a lot of great action. Which is that you can really ask for. It's not a bad punish appearance. Like i said the shame it takes to be hypnotized competent. But i'll get to where. I can take it though. Oh my god you don't have to do. We have to come back. Come back around that next story with boomerang. We need to do a live. Read and get see fan boy in here. Yeah ray he still busy. We'll have to. We'll have to definitely bully him into it. Though concerts stag parties. come on. who's he with his best. Life is an old man. Who are we to judge. The australian heff donna. I will give these issues. In average of the plus. I think the second issue is my favorite in the maybe one. Forty one is my favorite cover. I love the golden girl boat though. I love that chefs. Kiss to that one to i think one forty one is the best cover would like more on the logo but like it just didn't really belong the spiderman. Yeah but with meet where we'll spend a little over. The top daredevil does time true had issue. I mean the thing they pretty much had at this time was like typhoid mary. Maybe bushwacker because his arm transient bushwacker. Definitely was the most wacky thing now. Just establish i gotta give it at least. A b minus. It's a shame that they that the persuader that way too by the way true well he was thinking filthy knelt media who is basically just a stinky plot macguffin and elegant actually paid off like they did mention it. Show it off at least get that you wanted to start the war the kingpin but it's like the logo were you know. Never i mean unless they were smart they were just like never swearing revenge against the punisher to. That's not going to turn out well. Frank alone on punish has no money. No impair to take over either. But i thought they would want revenge. They were smart joe dealers where they do good bread with butter. Frank is a couple of thousand rounds of silver bullets and you probably not and actually two of them ahead eventually all right now. That's got some the the action in pisces with the best part about whether they tried to do something with robbie late it felt organic it the like. Oh well we haven't anything with the black guys. Let's go story together. you know. yeah. I mean it's again modern comics. Never it's just like we were doing stuff with supporting cast. Yeah such a shame that that trend went away. I don't know why look like in the current spider man who said joan up with that podcast and once last time we saw him like early four joan backup in the in the amazing spider man please seriously when the last time we saw jona like early forties of spectacular spider man. It's busy with his kindred basis. That didn't really work out how they thought it was gonna work out so god like fifteen issues of. Tell me tell confess. I don't know what you'll be composed the thing you know the thing you did that time but yeah no i mean i. I've had worse issues. Punisher worse punisher appearances. So i know so. Yes they were trying to get him out of new york to get a little something you know. We did atlanta dallas. That was fun. Some of that is because this was written by gerry conway who created the punisher absolutely. He wanted his shackle. It drew this out. He wanted his shackle again. If you don't want superheroes interfering in your executions yeah you. You're not going to let smartest thing that's ever happened. Spiderman at tombstone punisher stayed in texas. I never would've known like a headline on page six all right. So should we tell the kid what's coming up next. Give never work all right one more week of punisher next week. Amazing spider man. Three thirty three thirty one with eric waterson. Who are they. Fighting the us government. So that's right so then the week after that threat. We're already at a sausage fest. It's three of them in. It's so out of hand for the trial of peter. Parker that's right you don't act like you don't like multiple sausage will fill up sausage suit. Hey reportedly put on a pretty decent show when scarlet spider week. Each really package right right all right. So yes tenure. Send your thoughts on of those Then yes so ray. Send your feedback for this time. We'll read it next time. So yes email capable lunatics at l. dot com or call the voicemails. Six one. four. Three eight two two seven three seven six one four thirty eight capes and remember follow. Altair's you can even mean video now. Oh yes video feedback ray. Oh drunken feedback from a concert. A swear to me but yes. Follow ultimate spider calf's on facebook twitter to find links to all the various shows social media's links to this youtube channel links to our patriots on when those long boxes are coming people coming in your face links to merch stay hydrated. Let's rights. nobody has to know what your drinking meeting everything all the one place. 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