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"Please note the story. You're about to hear is not drawn from any single version of the Basle esque accounts of this mythological creature vary across the centuries we've combined combined several disparate interpretations along with the generally accepted account of the creatures literary and Cultural History for the purpose of this episode long ago in the Dry Mediterranean hills of Sereni three nights it's were galloping on their tall steeds. The Hot Summer Sun beat down on their chainmail leaving their bodies slick with sweat and they're spear hands slippery but they were used to these conditions and road on. They had to get to the castle. By nightfall they had had good tidings to deliver. They joked and chattered from horseback boasting about their prowess in battle and speculating about the feast. That awaited waited them that night all the while they tossed a wine skin between them anything to take their minds off the heat but they kept hip. There is on the dusty road watching for animals. Even small lizard might spook the horses and hold them up a few miles out from the castle. There watchful gaze was rewarded. All three nights noticed the little serpent no more more than a foot long. Lingering in the middle of the road to of the riders swerved keeping their horses is away from the slithering blithering thing but the youngest and most foolish of the nights was riding straight towards it and instead of altering his course he he angled his spear ready to display his excellent aim. He'd kill the little thing in a moment as his horse flew past the nights beer made contact but as it dug into the beast's flesh. Something strange happened. It's blood it began to flow up. The handle of the spear the night stared in horror. It flooded past the weapons handle than onto his hand his body his horse man and beast toppled into the dusty road as their companions looked don in horror. The creature he had stabbed was no ordinary snake it was a battle Isq and ended deadly poison had turned their friend into an oozing shell as if he'd walked out of a burning house his hair was blackened his face a mess of blood and disintegrating skin his eyes standing out from the pile of debris wore a look of utter terror. Welcome to mythical monsters. Apar- arc cast original. I'm Vanessa Richardson. Every week we dive into history's most legendary monsters in telling their stories. We hope to shed light light on some truths hidden behind the creation of these beasts where they come from what they symbolize and how they expose humanity's greatest latest fears you can find episodes of mythical monsters and all other podcast originals for free on spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts to stream mythical ethical monsters for free on spotify just open the APP and type mythical monsters in the search bar at par cast. Were grateful for you our listeners. You allow allow us to do what we love. Let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and Instagram at podcast and twitter at podcast network. And if you enjoy today's episode the best way to help is to leave a five star review wherever you're listening. It really does help us today. We're discussing the BASSIL USC. The King King of serpents a deadly hybrid beast born from an egg laid by a rooster and hatched by toad. The Bassil USC risk of legend could kill with a single glance it terrified medieval Europeans and decorated many of their manuscripts even making appearances in the works of Geoffrey Chaucer and Leonardo Da Vinci. Today it's best known for its role in J K Rowlings Harry Potter her and the Chamber of secrets but the story of the Bass Lisk goes back much farther than that all the way to ancient Rome the earliest written description of the Bassil esque comes from the ancient Roman philosopher. Plenty the elder in his book Natural History completed in seventy nine Z.. E. This monolithic. Thirty seven volume work covered everything from bees to mathematics to monsters. Plenty bacilus lived and Sereni now Libya and was a small creature not more than twelve fingers in length it looked like a little snake worrying a white diadem or crown. Hence its title the King of serpents and unlike other serpents it walked upright wall plenty described the bacilus as a small unassuming creature it possessed deadly power even glancing into its is his or feeling it's breath lead to immediate death. It's likely this destructive ability that led to an ancient Roman myth featuring the beast bacilus slid through the underbrush. It's upright head head. Held high above the grass plants withered beneath. It's poisonous breath as it passed. This left a trail of death through the otherwise verdant Mediterranean region of Sereni when the Bacilus dark impenetrable is looked upon distant trees they to shriveled and died even the rocks over which the bacilus slid cracked destroyed by. It's poisonous is power. A shepherd leading his goats through the forest chanced upon the dry brittle path. The serpent had left in its wake. He was so distracted by the sight that he forgot his goats. He stood there for a long moment gazing at the dead earth. He'd been seeing seeing more and more bacilus Kyun destruction of late so much it was starting to change the face of this land. He knew so well. The bacilus numbers seemed to be growing the shepherds snapped out of his trance and started corralling his goats. There was nothing he could do about the Basil USC aside from get his goats to pasture as soon as possible and pray that he didn't meet one of the serpents in person he then went inside his hut and turned in for the night dreaming of serpents. He knew that even nights feared the beast many had perished in attempts to slay it when the bacilus blood ran up their spears and poison them horrifying images of the basle EST defying nature pass through his mind until he shot up awake. A shiver ran down the shepherds back as he hurried into to the mounting morning heat. There was a strange tension in the air. Today as the shepherd weaved his way through the woods he saw. Ah More of the dry dead bacilus paths. They were everywhere he turned but he didn't see any snakes and soon he made it to his pasture. He stopped at the site of the open field drinking in the warm bright sunlight a pleasant breeze. He's blue softly across his face. Perhaps today was a normal quiet day. After all a day for lulling in the grass and yelling merrily Sara Lee at his goats he reached for his wine skin ready to quench his dry lips with a long sip justice. He untied the bag. He he froze. They're not ten meters away was a serpent and not just any serpent. It was Standing Upright Upright and had a small white crown on its head. It was a vassilis. The shepherd spun away from the serpent immediately. Turning his eyes skyward as he gasps in fear he had not made eye contact with the creature. If if he had he would be dead he knew he had to get away from the bacilus. Get once before. It's poisoned breath reached him. His only choice was to run and pray to the gods that the Bacilus wasn't as quick as its venom was deadly. He Ran Dan until he was gasping for air. His fear driving him behind him. He heard a persistent hiss and the soft crumpling sound of plants plants withering to the ground. He couldn't look back but he knew it was getting closer as he approached a large olive live tree. He threw himself up toward. It's lower branches. Perhaps if he climbed high enough he would escape an instant later. The shepherd word cursed himself as he saw the folly in his plan the bacilus would simply wither the tree with its poison glare and once the tree was Feld the shepherd would have nowhere to go. He was doomed. But as the shepherd scrambled up the tree three he disturbed a weasel sleeping below it. The Weasel scurried out of its nest squeaking angrily. It came face to face with with the Basle ask the Bass. a-list fixed the little furry creature with it's icy gaze but instead of immediately toppling to the ground the animal let loose. It's oily skunk like spray as it fell and then the bass a-list toppled to the ground with it stunned. The shepherd climbs down from his perch to gaze at the two corpses. He had heard that the weasels odor had a strange range and deadly effect on the otherwise impenetrable basil USC but he was sorry to see that the rodent perished in the struggle he would have liked to thank his saviour the shepherd for all the fear he felt on that deadly day was lucky he lived on on but what he lived on to see was a sad world slowly sarunas infestation of bacilus worsened until there was was no vegetation left eventually the entire region was turned to desert the desert we now know as the Sahara some scholars believe that plays description of the Vassilis and other ancient accounts of the serpent are based on Egyptian cobras which which lived in the deserts of North Africa they were hunted by a weasel like animal the ichneumon domesticated by ancient Egyptians and while Cobras Olga's couldn't kill with a glance they were certainly deadly but the belief that an infestation of Bacilus was responsible for transforming Sereni Marini from a lush verdant landscape into dry desert has more opaque origins to understand it we can go back to one of the central functions of mitts. They explained the natural world and it's strange incomprehensible phenomena in human terms uh-huh for ancient Greeks in their abundant homeland. The lifeless expanse of the Sahara across the Mediterranean must have seemed ominous. How how could a country becomes so barren would their own land and up the same way? The story of the Bacilus explained why the landed Sereni was so dry and also reassured the ancient Greeks and Romans that their own land was safe as long as they avoided the plague. EGA bacilus confessed station. It acted as myth often does as reassurance but the legend of the Bass Lisk Lisk was just beginning by the Middle Ages. The King of serpents became much more menacing coming up. We'll explain the evolution of the Basle in the Middle Ages when the dreadful snake grew wings. 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Back to the story in the first century CE EH plenty. The elder copied down the earliest legends of the Basle Isq in his natural history. A monolithic text. That is still read today. But it wasn't just the ancients who believed in the strange deadly powers of the Basle. Ask in fact. It wasn't until the Middle Ages that a more comprehensive picture of the monster emerged in genre of text called Best Jerry's best Jerry's or illustrated catalogues of animal. Stories were wildly popular in the Middle Ages. Second only to the Bible. Their stories were drawn from ancient myths and legends as well as contemporary scientific vic thought and they often emphasized strange monstrous creatures. Like the Bassil USC. They also had a tradition of drawing snakes with wings and one pair of legs in their illustrations. A practice unrelated to the Basle USC but perhaps it was these winged legged serpents. That led to was strange new origin story for the Basil Isq and origin which first emerged around eleven hundred ee and started to populate Best Aries. He's thereafter an elderly rooster paraded around the forest. The comb on his head trembling in the cool night air are he was a proud beast but his many years were weighing on him. He didn't know where he was going to sleep tonight. He was used used to sleeping in the farmers henhouse but he escaped out into the night of his own volition. He'd made the choice to run wild through the forests now now. His feathers were bedraggled his spindly legs were tired and he was ready to lay down and sleep but he was so oh alone if only he had a companion suddenly he heard it. The sound of another rooster. It was was crying somewhere in the forest. Not So far away. If he ran a bit longer he might make it to this feathered friend and perhaps they they could spend the night together with a shrill hoot of his own. The roosters started to run through the woods and not too far or away. He was delighted to find the source of the distant cry. This new rooster with proud shiny coat of feathers and a towering. Our in Qom was the most beautiful creature he'd ever seen the elderly rooster and and his new companion produced a strange egg together but as they were both males. They weren't sure what to do with the thing. Neither had ever laid unhanged before and they hadn't paid much mind to the activities of the hens and so happy in one another's company. They left the thing on the forest floor floor by the banks of a small pond and wandered off into the forest for new adventures. Meanwhile the little egg languished cold and alone a toad hopping along the Bank of the pawn happened upon the egg. She waited over to inspect the round object quickly. She identified it as an egg not her leg or the egg of another toad certainly but but an egg nonetheless an egg that needed hatching and so the toad squatted down on the thing extending her tongue every now and then to catch a fly and waited eventually a soft cracking sound erupted from beneath her. The toad scooted off the egg her bulbous eyes peering at the egg. In anticipation what creature would emerge from within the toad jumped back back in surprise as the eggshell crumbled even she the forests strangest ugliest creature was alarmed by what she saw. A chick with the tail of a serpent stumbled out of the egg. Hissing angrily this medieval origin story of the Basle. EST recorded I around. Eleven hundred ce was repeated with slight variations by a host of well respected figures. These included Saint Hildegard of Bingen in the mid twelfth century. English scholar Alexander Neck in the late. Eight twelve th century and Theologian Bartholomew. Glanville and Friar Vincent of Beauvais in the thirteenth century illustrations of Bacilus says roosters with the Scales and tales of a snake became commonplace in the best year. He's of Medieval Europe. Occasionally beasts of this same same description were also called. ka-katrina says the Basle is of the best year he's tapped into wider patterns of animal symbolism in in the Medieval Christian world the toad for example was often associated with evil poet. John Milton even use it as a symbol for Satan in his his paradise lost. Thanks to these dark associations the toad was inappropriate participant in the birth of a deadly hellish monster. Her to counter the beasts hellish nece some best aries. Also God into accounts of the Bassil USC. They explained that the serpent's vulnerability to the weasel was a crucial aspect of its place in God's animal kingdom because God never makes anything without a remedy despite its deadly nature. The best list could still be felled. Thanks to God's wisdom and kindness the monster was certainly presented does something that needed a remedy and not just because it was incubated by an evil toad as a creature born not only of a male animal but as the product of of two male animals it went against God's ordained natural order. It was also two Medieval Christians clearly Satan spawn on but still. There's no distinct moral attached to this strange beasts origin tale unlike most animal stories in Best Geri's which which were often allegorical. It story wasn't told to teach little children a message about appropriate Christian behavior. Or God's power rather it. It seems that it was preserved in part because it's Roman origins classified it as a real scientific beast and in part because of a certain medieval evil group that took an interest. In the Basle USC two men stood in the dark dungeon watching the fire roaring in the hearth. It cut through the shadows and filled the room with warmth but the two men weren't interested in creature comforts. Their eyes were fixed external cauldron hanging above the flames. Its contents boiling. They were conducting out chemical experiment. One which demanded did spiritual physical and emotional purity. They had to constantly look inwards at their own souls before launching into their work work for they were practising the most difficult of all chemical acts making gold slowly bubbles of foam foam began to spill over the cauldrons cast iron sides. The men looked at each other and nodded then. They approached the fire. Their brows browse coated with sweat. They prayed silently that finally they'd gotten their recipe right. Then they chanted out the words words of one of their teachers words given to him in a dream the blessed stone one in number and no more our. Oh Great Elixir. Most high of price our as our bassil USC are a drop and our caucus their hearts were pounding as they poured the liquid from the cauldron into the small beakers waiting on the table the sulphurous smell the strange strange swirling eddies in this blackened pot had the semblance of what they were looking for. Slowly the men's I Began to light up and their hands to shake. The liquid was solidifying into stone. Had they finally gotten the recipe right. If they had this was a very special stone it could transform common metal to gold but it could also also he'll a sick man or make a healthy man live forever. It could change the life of all humankind for the better the philosopher's stone. It was called but it also had another name. The bacilus alchemy was a medieval pseudoscience. It claimed that it was possible to creative very special stone through a combination of chemical and spiritual work the Basil Isq. Some alchemists thought had a connection to this magical stone. This connection was explained in a compendium of all chemical writings things written around fourteen hundred. This liquid will coagulate into a visible stone. Called the Basle ask for just as the bacilus kills a man by. It's mere glance so to this stone. Kills Mercury solidifying and fixing it into perfect nick to silver without using fire. The deadly nature of this monstrous Basil esque made it a perfect symbol for the philosopher's stone which killed lesser things like metal or disease in the case of alchemy. Of course those lesser things were then replaced with wonderful awful things like gold and eternal life alchemy however didn't just use the bass list as a metaphor for the philosopher's elsever stone. Some texts on alchemy even went so far as to list bacilus ashes as an ingredient necessary for creating the stone. The Basil is being mythical beast would have been difficult for alchemists to find but perhaps this impossible grocery list was exactly what they needed needed to keep the hope of Alchemy alive Mike the Bass Lisk alchemy existed somewhere between science and fantasy but in medieval Europe many people considered both alchemy and the Bassil isq very real so real in fact that there are several historical stoorikhel instances in which whole cities were terrorized by a vassal USC. Coming up. We'll explore floor some of the real life bacilus sightings that fueled the medieval legends of the beast now back to the story during the Middle Ages. The Roman legend of the Basle isq expanded through it's consistent inclusion in popular best Jerry's and its association with Alchemy but many medieval people believed these legendary bacilus to be a very real threat. Fifteen eighty seven Warsaw Warsaw Poland. The streets were bustling with business. The laundry was flying on Line Strung. Between the city's buildings the chamber pots were being dumped unceremoniously on the heads of unlucky pedestrians winding through the narrow cobblestone streets. But one woman wasn't having a normal day at all lady macaroni. ps dragged her daughters nursemaid. Eight by the hand as she ran from building to building banging on her neighbors doors at each door she shouted the same question had had they seen her daughter but none of them had finally the nursemaid was able to stop the frantic mother and calm her surely the girl was off playing with one of her little companion somewhere around town. She would turn up eventually lady. Macaroni Pius wasn't convinced. But out of breath and tired. She agreed to return home. They could at least search all the rooms thoroughly before alarming. The rest of war saw at home. The women searched each room carefully as the nursemaid had advised. They looked under the beds and in the trunks of linens and they searched the cupboards in the kitchen after looking everywhere else the nursemaid suggested they check the basement it had fallen into ruin when three years before but perhaps the little girl had todd down there to play as soon as they descended down those first few who steps lady macaroni. PS and the nursemaid stopped short. Two small figures lay on the floor below it was is her daughter and her playmate their skin was bluish white their poses were stiff and awkward. The two women started to shout out the little girl's name agony straining their voices but they already knew the truth. The girls weren't aren't napping or playing a game. They were dead mother. nursemaid looked at one another in horror but then the nursemaid as courageous as she was clever announced to her mistress that she would go down to the girls. She'd examined them to find out about what happened lady. Macaroni Pius gave a tense agonized nod still in shock at the sight of her daughter then she watched the nurse made descend after a few steps. The made reached the tiny corpses. But then she she collapsed beside them. She didn't get back up lady. Macaroni was aghast trembling. She ran to the the main house to get help. Something was lurking in her basement. Something impossibly deadly the citizens of Warsaw approached lady. MACARONI PIA says House with caution. Many of them noted that the air felt unusually thick. All all of them speculated that something supernatural was at work they decided against going inside. They left the lady alone. Save the three bodies in her basement. Alarmed the city Senate convened to discuss a proper response the senators. There's new the damage. A supernatural creature could do to an unlucky city. They gritted their teeth in fear and agreed that something had to be done about the beast and lady macro pieces basement but they themselves were just politicians. They needed someone versed in the Arcane Arts to assess this case to tell them what evil was haunting their people and to put forth a plan of action that would save the city from chaos us and death. That's someone was an old man named Benedictus former chief physician to the king. Benedictus felt the fear seeping through the Senate halls and through the city streets. He even felt terror sinking in his own heart as he listen. Listen to the story of these strange supernatural deaths in lady massacre appearances seller. But wiseman that he was. He steals appealed his heart. The city needed his arcane arts with a bow the quaking senators he bravely agreed to examine the contaminated terminated bodies. He would do his best to determine what was haunting the city and find a solution to save Warsaw he ordered the Burgers or high ranking citizens to pull all three bodies out of the macaroni PIA seller using long poles appended appended to iron hooks and then he began his examination. The three corpses were swollen like drums. Their skin was discolored discolored and there is protruded out of their sockets like appalling eggs. There was no doubt this was the work of a bassil USC. The Senate burst into a flurry of whispers. When they heard the news frozen with fear they all knew the stories of the Basque? They knew it could kill with its gaze with its breath with its blood. They knew that it was small all but more deadly than a lion. The news could not have been worse. Finally one brave practical man. Dan Stepped forward asking the question that the city leaders were all afraid to hear the answer to Benedictus. Is there anything we can do to killed. This vile beast in our midst. Benedicta smiled sadly. There was a way to defeat this monster but it would require for a man of exceptional courage he would have to descend into that. Deadly basement. Sees the Bacilus with a rake and drag it out it into the light this hero's armor would be made of many mirrors. These would protect him from the gaze of the Basle esque but even with this strange strange garb the mission was no sure thing. The Senate went back to whispering reassured that there was some path breath forward but they were still terrified. was there anyone amongst the Burgers who was brave enough for this challenge. There wasn't it turned out neither the military nor the police turned up a single candidate. The tension Warsaw's streets was mounting and the the Senate was whipping itself into a flurry the entire city would perish. It couldn't find a hero but finally one one senator remembered the SALESIAN convict. Johan four languishing. In the Warsaw Dungeons Johann had been sentenced to death breath for robbery. The senator went to Johann Dungeon so and offered him a bargain if he agreed to challenge the Basle missile USC and survived. He would be pardoned of his crimes and celebrated as a hero by all of Warsaw Johan. John didn't jump at the opportunity even he in the face of execution feared death by Basil. Ask More than a beheading. But eventually he could not help but grasp at the chance of survival however small he agreed to the deal Johann was dressed in a suit of mirrors and escorted to the seller of lady. Macaroni pious per benedictus instructions. He held a rake rake in his right hand and torch in his left slowly. His mirrors softly Jingling Johan descended the creaking staircase his torch sputtered as he traveled deeper and deeper into the dark shadows. The air started to feel thicker and a noxious office. Perfume enveloped him as he reached the base of the stairs. He paused quaking. He knew that if the mirrors weren't strong strong enough to avert the bacilus poisonous gays or if the deadly breath of the beast overpowered him then he would die in agony any but if he ascended from the basement without the Basle Isq his life was forfeit to facing the Bass Lisk. At least he had a chance. Johan plunged forward rake outstretched upstairs. The crowd waited waited outside for a full hour. Breathless with anticipation had Johann already been slain. They wondered were they stuck with a ruthless deadly deadly monster in their midst forever just as one of the burgers began to turn away disappointed and sure that Johann had fallen the door to lady. Macaroni has house. Slowly Swung Open. The crowd stood wrapped. Waiting for what was about to to emerge they trembled. Perhaps it was Johann but perhaps it was the Basle Isq then. A A glimmer of reflective mirror appeared. They erupted in cheers. It was Johann. He'd survived the deadly beast but then they saw his rake on the end of the long tool was a strange writhing creature. gasps replaced the cheers and the burgers immediately turned away from their hero. Some of them started to run their bodies quaking from even a glimpse of the fearsome deadly beast the basle EST might be dead but even then it's corpse might still have the power to kill. Only Benedictus was brave enough to examine the beast WHO's poison. He explained was rendered less effective by the sun. The people of Warsaw listened in awe as Benedictus described the beast. It had the head of a cock with a crest resembling the crown. It's is were those of toad and it's skin Wardi and scaled it's curved tail. Meanwhile was that of serpent. It was indeed a bacilus so ends the tale of the Warsaw Bassil ask. There's no explanation of what happened to its corpse or to the hero Johann. There's even less of an explanation for the origins of the story. One scholars scholars suggest that the tail was first recorded by several humanist writers. One of whom was an alchemist. This alchemist may have written down the tail. Because of his is professional interest in the ashes of the Basle USC but however he heard the story remains unknown when we dig into the central fears of the story however we can start to speculate about its origins. The bacilus of Warsaw is fearsome because of its sudden appearance in the heart of a local home home along with its ability to swiftly and mysteriously kill and it starts with the weakest most innocent members of the community children trend. That sounds a lot like the many diseases that ravaged Europe throughout the Middle Ages most notably the black plague medical science was is non-existent and illnesses like the plague were mysterious and terrifying. Just like the desert of Libya was to the ancient. Greeks often often medieval Christians rationalized disasters like the plague as God's retribution but perhaps in the case of Warsaw's Bacilus. They were turning turning to a more traditional explanation for the ravaging forces of nature. A mythical beast however the bacilus did not disappear here with the plagues of the Middle Ages. It was a fixture and the drama and poetry of Elizabethan writers including Shakespeare. But as the scientific revolution and started experts began to sift through the medieval best. Jerry's designating some creatures as real and others imaginary along with countless countless other monsters. The bacilus was relegated to the stuff of myths. By the end of the mid seventeenth century the creature had all but disappeared appeared from contemporary thought. Art and common knowledge until July of Nineteen Ninety Eight when British author J K K.. Rowling published Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets. The novel features an enormous fearsome Vassilis as an evil agent of the central antagonised Voldemort the enormous success of the book revive the legend of the beast. Giving it new life after generations of obscurity in two thousand two. When a movie version of the story was released the legendary status of the Bacilus was cemented in contemporary culture? Rowlings version of the beast takes some liberties notably. Her bacilus is enormous but otherwise it's not so different from Plinio Clini. The elders little snake. It's just as deadly and terrifying. It still kills with its gays and it still symbolizes the most powerful powerful overwhelming threats to human life and so the legend lives on. It's simply moved from Bellum and parchment and to bleached paper and movie screens where we can feel. It's terror in a whole new way sir. Thanks for listening to mythical monsters. We'll be back next week with a new episode. 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I'm Paul Gilmartin. This is the mental illness. Happy Hour and I'm going to cut all the intros in messages and stuff like that short for this episode because. This interview is a little on the the long side. There's just so much good stuff that I could not cut out of it. I had to leave it at this length that it is but Yes so. Let's kick it off with a Oh i. know what I wanted to tell you. There's a we have a newsletter now that you can sign up for and if you go to the website, please sign up for that The website is mental pod DOT COM and I want to kick it off with a a court that Einstein said which I really liked. He says that I must be willing to give up. What I`am in order to become I will be. Everybody I. Know is bizarrely beautifully fucked up in some weird. I could stand you in the audition I. Guess. and. I learned that I could solve my problems. Through violence since I couldn't communicate lonely, guess I'm afraid that my genitalia is ugly. That's hurtful. And what was your role in the robbery? I mean you never knew what you were going home tip? Jar had teeth. I was a wreck other people's. I'm here with Christine keys who? I met through her son. Actually met you five minutes ago. She just walked in the door with with her son Jeff Rosenthal. Who who I've known for for twenty years and Jeff and I were having. Dinner the other night and I can't remember how this subject came up, but we were talking about the movie. Life is beautiful and you had mentioned that that people. Some people protested at the way. The Holocaust was presented in that movie and then you. Mentioned what your mom had said and I thought. Wow, that would be. That would be a great guest that sounds like somebody who's very thoughtful and his lived through some. Trials and tribulations and SEEMS TO HAVE A. Good. Attitude and to be very thoughtful. I, actually wrote a letter to The New Yorker objecting to their review of the UDV which they printed. Okay, what remember when that was made just briefly we'll get. We'll get back into your childhood later, but just before before you give your opinion of life is beautiful. You were raised in Warsaw during during. World War Two and here Jewish right, and so, what was the? What was the letter? You know I really don't remember except I think. Just, the reviewers sort of questioned the. Some of the press of the movie that people could live. A life tried to live within the camp life. That was sort of normal. Do you remember the letter at all Jeff I? Do It was actually that? You pointed out that because there were over six million. People affected by the war. There were as many different versions of the story and that to think that there was only one way to tell. The story was very naive. And that that actually, and then actually I think you had also mentioned how there were elements of your childhood that were felt like a fairy tale or A. were. You were kept safe by the notion that what was going on was not necessarily always. Exactly as the world saw it later. But anyway the the basic premise being that you know it was okay to show a different view of the war than just having one rigid concept of it. Yeah, I think. I felt that my ask move that a little bit experience was somewhat different, because I was over particular age, where I really didn't know anything different, so there was a normality to it, which wasn't there for other people for the adults. What Year were you born? Thirty three, so you were six six six when the war started and I. was Sir Seven and eight in the Warsaw ghetto? So and it just seemed it. was you know that was the life that we had? And there were certain priorities such as survive Oh, and and aside from that. the result being that. I have a very. Exact in detail, memory of that went on whereas my mother who was with me. The end of the war didn't have that, and she kind of blocked it out right. A lot of my survival had to do with my mother who was very determined that we should survive, and she not only save me, but she also saved her younger brother whom she had promised her parents, she would take care of so. That was quite a burden. because. We were Jewish and he was a male who was circumcised. In Poland only juicer circumcise very easy to give away to identify so basically. If you Jewish male you had to pretty much, stay hidden, because anybody could stop you decide that you know. They wanted to see which it looked like and then you're stuck, so it was my i. Always had a feeling that my mother's own survival really was determined by the fact that she had to keep me in her brother live. In how old would your Mama been at this point? About twenty, nine thirty. Okay, when the war started, I was at my grandparents, because it's where I spent summers, and the war started in September. And I was still with my grandparents. And so I was not in war so when it was attacked and bombed. and. But my grandparents decided that. well, these your mom's parents are my mother's parents and they There was obviously a lot of talk about the war all around me, which you know was I must have just gotten the tone off, and the and the sense of urgency, because people are always turning on the radio and listening to the radio and shushing everybody, so they could hear the the news and I remember having my first memory. Actually funny of the war is a dream I had. At my grandparents House that there were people lined up on two sides of the street. You know the Germans were one side of the street fighting in the polls were on the other side of the street fighting, and that there were like shooting at each other from across the street. and. That was kind of my image of what a war was. So I remember having that dream, and then my grandparents as did everybody. In the surroundings we were about. Their were in town. That was like. Something like fifty four miles eighty miles north of war, so everybody decided. The thing to do is to pack up and go to also. To be safe. What that the notion? I guess being and I don't really fully understand it, but the notion I guess was that the city would be the most defended I. Guess that Makes Sense. So everybody. Packed up and my grandparents had A. They had a business and they had a wagon that they used for distributing the products. My grandfather had a soap factory. And, they had a wagon with horses and packed up as much as I could this they could and me in loaded us on on the wagon and I think it was at night because I remember waking up. I'm new. There were there were packing, but I had fallen asleep. They must have put me on the wagon while I was asleep I. Remember Waking Up in the middle of the night. because the wagon had stopped and there was There were like soldiers around us. Were Polish soldiers, but they had gas masks on so I just woke up and there were these creatures leaning over the Oh my God lagging with the strange faces. And I don't know whether at the time I knew were gas masks of the I remember that was kind related dream. This kind of weird creatures leaning over and this your soldiers with gas masks turning everybody back. Saying this is ridiculous. Being bombed and the cities being bombed, and you do not want to go to war, so you WANNA turn around and go back. So that was. Did you your family? Turn around and go back to the country when back and But we had no news of my mother who wasn't worse. So there were several and I really don't know how much time had passed when my mother. Arrived on some kind of. you know a lot of people were like? Basically hitchhiking, getting transportation's from whatever was available, so she arrived on another, so she got out of Warsaw Tower Wagon or something and she was. She had a few belongings with her, and it turned out that the house we lived in had been bombed and burnt down. and. By that time I guess the war was as far as Poland was component had already capitulated by the time she got. There must have been probably at least a week or More and she was. Weeping and my grandparents thought that she had heard some bad news about her husband, who was? My Stepfather, who she married a year before the war and was drafted into the army was. A reservist in the army, and was gone with the army, and she said No. She had to give a dog up. And, she was crying, but her dog because we had this German shepherd, and apparently the house was bombed, and it burned down and she lost the dog in the. Commotion of that. And some few days later. Somebody told her that they saw her dog lying on the ruins of the house. Apartment apartment building, but he was on the ruins of the apartment building, and he won't, and he looked starved, and he won't go with anybody, so she went and got the dog. The dog had been hurt I. think he had like it looked like he was nicked by a bullet in his leg. And it was a kind of a a wild German shepherd, and and what happened after that is? She thought that he might have must have been shocked by a soldier. Because every time he saw somebody in German uniform, he would go crazy and tried to attack them home, so that was not a good dog to have with you. Yeah, this is going on. She didn't know what to do because she was very attached. So I do love the idea of a German shepherd attacking Germans and they did have dogs. A lot of them had dogs so. You, just you know he would see somebody in German uniform, he just would go crazy, so she finally was able to get him out of the city and somewhere along the road, she stopped at a farmer's house and. And ask them if they could possibly take the dog. They said you know he's a really good guard dog, if him as a guard dog and they agreed to take him. And, so she arrived or we P, because she had just given the dog up, but at least you knew it was safe. Which is which is nice? Yeah gifts. We are sponsored today by squarespace I love squarespace. If you've never built your own website, square spaces a great tool to do it. I've done it with their their. What would you call their tools? Their Platform It's super simple, very intuitive, dragon drop and couldn't be happier with it so if you're looking to start a. New Business Showcase your work published content sell products whatever square spaces to Wolfer you. They got awesome templates. They have an e commerce functionality that lets you sell anything. It's optimized for mobile right out of the box by domains is really simple, and if you need any help there twenty four seven award winning customer support we'll help you so. Try. It, squarespace empowers millions of people from designers to lawyers artists SA- gamers, even restaurants gyms, and they helped turn great ideas into something real so had to squarespace dot com slash mental for a free trial, and then when you're ready to launch us the offer code mental to save ten percent off your first purchase of a website or domain that squarespace dot com slash mental and use offer. Code Mental. So that's the that's how it all started. then. She took me back to our so and I really don't remember how he went there. So, what was the idea going back to Warsaw? Was it because? Poland had capitulated. It was deemed okay well now. The the the war part is over. It's just an occupation, and that's GONNA I safe enough. Yeah, that's part of it, but there was another part which is that when Germany came into Poland, they Basically. The idea was that they would annex. Poland Germany accepted. They cut out a space around Warsaw, and they call it a self governing part, and so some of the restrictions, and just the way people are treated. There was supposed to be A. As self-governing area that still had poche authority over it, whereas everything else including where my grandparents were was now being next into Germany right and the treatment of Jews was very different. Right away, Germany actually respected the self-governing area. Well, it had it had different head Polish police that was kind of my charge, and it was it was considered to be. Had some names in German, but it was considered to be. Semi Self Governing Okay. And the rules were different. So that. No, the Poland, actually shortly before the war, which is something that that helped us a lot my mother that is. Had A new constitution which. Took away any indications of your religion from your documents. So people know had a passport that did not say you will Jewish. And there was a big advancement and I think that happened in nineteen, maybe thirty three or something like thirty two and was was that kind of people could hear the drums of war knowing that this was i. don't think so i. think it was just kind of a trend towards democracy that was going on because of the of the president of the new president that they hadn't probably saved. A lot of people Yes, except well, it was. Very complicated help. My mother because her name was a very Polish sounding name so with that passport in her post sounding name. She she actually used it at one point the the thing being that. What the Germans the first thing that Germans did when they came in, they asked everybody to register and all the Jews to register and most of the people registered. So, they had lists of everybody. Oh, I, see! Yeah, but in the. In the war so. The Jews eventually had to wear armbands with. White Armbands with the Blue Star of David on them. And you! Twelve have when you see the documentary. That's kind of the image. In the part where my grandparents were, and then the in Poland, that was incorporated in Germany they wore yellow stars on their backs, and they had to walk off the sidewalk. So it was quite them more horrific. Thing in this was out in the country where you're when my grandparents grandparents were. That's funny. Because I I wouldn't funny is not the right word. Interesting because I. You when you think of. The Nazi occupation of Warsaw in Poland. General you think of Warsaw is the absolute absolute worst place to be in and Poland, but it was. The countryside. Yes it act well, you know it's a mixed bag. Because in the country, a lot of people ended up joining the partisans in the woods. The Jews did. There was some other avenues of escape. but in a lot of these places. Where there was not a ghetto with, weren't you know? Putting people into an enclosed part of the city. There were just just kill. So. It kind of depends the independent. You know who your neighbors were and put. People like your didn't like you and whether they wanted to turn you in, and then you throw in the whole thing about Russia. For for people that aren't aren't familiar with the details of World War Two you know. Russia was originally when when Germany I invaded. They divvied up Poland with Russia Germany was pretended to be Russia's friend. Pulling being wedged between Germany and Russia and actually one of the things I saw in this documentary was the largest road between Berlin and Moscow ran right through Mu- through Warsaw, so it was strategically of. Huge importance and literally couldn't be probably a worst place. Strategically to be on earth. In. World War Two and. Up because you're literally in the jaws of these two ruthless. Employees upset a lot of people that point a lot of people who had the means of which is like a lot of people who were in various diplomatic cores and had access to two cars in the scenes and transportation. A lot of these people immediately went east. Into Russia. And these people survived. We had a lot of friends who you know came back after the war from the Soviet Union, and they may have had a hard time or whatever, but they survived them was real father. Yes, but my father went, and he got stuck somewhere in between like you say, and when the Russians kept changing sides. And then they attacked again, he would get arrested by the Germans put in jail than the Russians would come in. They'd let everybody out of jail. And then the Germans would come back in, and somehow in some of those exchanges I assumed under the Germans he was, he did die. He was killed. My Uncle? My mother's younger brother, who was the one? She was charged by her parents to protect. And did also. Went with his? What was it his cousins, and some other family members who did survive went to Russia and they had a terrible crossing, and they got frostbite on their feet, and he got very upset that because he was very attached to the family that he left my mother, and that he was going saving himself by going to Russia and he came back. Tour so. And all I remember when he came back, and that he had frostbite on his feet, and my mother was taking care of him, and she said tomorrow I'm packing you up and you go right back. And he cried. And said he wasn't going to leave. He was not going to leave. He couldn't go, and she said all right. You can stay. and. Where were he must've been? `Bout. Twenty one. Where were their parents that that that they had charged her with well, they were in this little town that was incorporated into Germany where I was when the war started. I see because they weren't in in Warsaw. Proper knows they were like it was eighty miles north of. And it became part of the right, and my mother wanted them to come to war, so it's always things have some extent because I think did. We might not have survived, but my mother did everything she could to to make them come and my grandfather and. A soap factory, which was requisitioned by the Germans, but they put him in charge of it. So he's idea was that he was necessary, they couldn't run this factory without him. And because of that he felt assured of survival, and did he survive. No, no, they both both my grandparents as far as I know. Were taken in guest or whatever? and What what what is that like? Not Knowing, what became of somebody? And what's that like? I did when I was a child I. When I was in the ghetto, and basically all my friends were gone by the time I was eight years old, and we get out the. All the friends I had were were gone and I had an old eight. Yeah. And my image of that was was like dropping off the edge of the world into some black hole. That was the image that I had all through my childhood of what happened to everybody. And, what would happen to me if I didn't you know? Step back from whatever these these holes were, which which happened a couple of times so are. There was like a just a blackness and that was it but I. Think you know you asked me before I, said to you before that I'm a cheerful person. And I said that probably it's because of denial will. Maybe that's part of the you know not leading into your consciousness, the things you can't deal with yeah and I guess that's the definition of denial. Maybe Y- I don't. Know I don't know if that's denial or if that's because you're not. You're not denying the fact of what happened. You're just not creating a picture that. that. Is detailed to the point that it causes you unnecessary, anguish or agony. I mean that's kind of how I. I. Look I don't I mean who knows where the where the where the truth is and I suppose there's a thousand different. Each. person has their own truth like you. Your opinion on on the movie life is beautiful So you're eight years old. You take the good parts, and you say these the good parts I am. I can be in control of the bed parts I can't control of so. That's not what I'm going to focus on one of the things that I. Always say on this podcast is. When when we go through difficult things in life. Sometimes if we keep our eyes open and our and our. This sounds cheesy, but our hearts open as well. Sometimes. There are beautiful moments even in the worst of circumstances Were there any moments for you? Moments of beauty or humanity? That that, you recall from those terrible times or it just kinda vague gray. No I. Mean there's some there's a lot of detail. I can't think of anything that is likely really positive. Except may be you know. Some friendships and relationships, but then you know these people then. Were Gone Yeah. I mean they're? They're funny stories that I've I told my kids like my mother, and my uncle, and I well actually okay pleasant, my uncle, my mother, and I lived in one room in the Warsaw ghetto and we had coal stove, which was used for Heaton also to cook on. and. There was no electricity by that time. and My mother worked in this cafe. That always also kind of gets people. People have strange feelings about there was a cafe and was very unit with music, and all sorts of things that people came to in the evening. in the ghetto and then. so they would. My mother would leave him supper on the stove, and then I would kind of take care of it till he came home to eat. and she had gone to work, but I used to read our. You know a read a lot I went through every every book that I could get my hands on, and maybe that was another one of my escapes when I read a completely lost track of reality, and because it was no electricity used to end up reading holding the book out the window where there was the last of the light. Windows that are Like French windows open to the sides. That's how the windows were in the apartment building and I used to go closer and closer to the window until I. Finally, my hands were stretched outside the window while I was reading the book. So I read this book that I don't know what the book was, but I got totally absorbed in it, and he came home and his supper, which was on the stove, which some potatoes in meters, something was charcoal. And the room was filled with smoke. And it's. He was furious and he said to me well. You Know My supper is I'll burn. Couldn't you tell it was burning and I gm sorry I didn't know burning well. The room is filled with smoke. I said yes I know I opened the windows. So that was when things yeah. And then my mother had sort of an admirer which was who was kind of a question of character. The people worried about because he seemed to have more freedom of movement than. People had and then I'll tell you more about that, but. I used to go to the cafe in. Hang around and sometimes I would. The pleasant moments, and sometimes they had a magic show, and the magician used to use me for like being the person out of whose ear he'd pull out the points or something, so there was a lot of fun, but my mother and my mother waited on tables, so he would sit down with me and. The Way Pastries says served in Europe usually you just get a big tray and then you take. you know whatever you want and the end the waitress takes away the tray and charges. You. What's gone, so he would. My mother would be the one to bring the train. He'd say. Just leave it here and I was very not only was I always hungry, but I always always always like sweets, so he would just have me eat. Whatever I want those a strain. My mother, who was waiting tips with comments, she would say no. No, you don't can't have told this. And he was saying no I'm paying. She's my guest and she can eat whatever she wants the TRAE. Happened to be. Switched her. During. Yes, I was one of those nice some slow moments so I take it that this this time period was between the capitulation and the uprising. No no the will you mean to uprisings? The ghetto. Turn to remember I think the way it worked is that the Jews were first or registered? Then they were told to move into certain sections of town. So that. All the Jews could only live in certain parts of town, but of course there were non Jews living in those parts of town, so there was a lot of exchange of apartments going on. So, people would go into give up their apartments, and whoever wasn't Jewish had to actually move out of the sections. And the Jews had to move in. And that took a while. And in nineteen forty two I have it all down somewhere because I started writing the the secrets better remember, you can get it on the Internet to sometime at that point when finally all the Jews that they the Germans knew about had moved into the ghetto. Into that those sections of town and there were two sections. There was something that was called large ghetto which incorporated. The large Jewish section that already existed which was more of a you know rundown. Commercial kind of part and then there was another part which was called the small ghetto. which were other streets and there was a big bridge that when between them over large intersection of town. Because otherwise they weren't. They were separated by a major thoroughfare, so they build a bridge from the large to the smaller. And at one point. And, it almost seemed like overnight. There was a wall built around the sections, and that was it and gave it was closed off. With just a few checkpoints around that you could go in and out. If you had papers and stuff like that, were you in the larger, the small we were in the smoking. was. It very very crowded. I. Yeah it was crowded. The large was more crowded than the smoke it just because it was more work for commercial. A section of town. All I know is that we ended up renting a room from you know a couple that had an apartment. And I had recently. There isn't a movie that just came out. Of some Footage that was taken by German soldiers in the ghetto, which actually been just watched that night a really yeah, it was about forty eight minutes long, and it was undiscovered footage from the. Yeah okay well. I saw that and I remember the filming. I was like yes I remember that they filmed and I. Remember that they filmed. There's a section with a women sunbathing in in bathing suits. That was on the roof of the House that I lived in really and I, asked my son about it in, and I said could. He said he couldn't tell was on the roof, but he just wondered why. The surfers there on was kind of Ruffin weird looking. It was a roof. of a two story building. And so, I saw the house. Yeah, and the weird thing is that I had remembered the the building. We lived in as a tall apartment building. And then I recognized it. was you know like you recognize something that you don't think that's the way it's GonNa. Look in the idea recognize. Recognize the building and I'm saying. Wow, that is the house we lived in. It's only two story cy and I had remembered it as a tall apartment building, and then I'm thinking to myself. Wait a minute. We lived on the second floor and I don't remember that anybody lives. And also, you're a kid and everything seems so gigantic. We're when you'RE A kid. That's so funny I was watching that last night knowing that I was going to interview you today and thinking is I was watching I. Wonder if I wonder if she she's ever seen that from from that angle. Remember that I remember when they came and film because they were filming the women on the on the roof, and there was a lot of you know feelings around people know. Don't be there. Don't let them film. You and some people want to filmed and other people didn't want to be filmed in south wasn't right so. I remember that. I didn't know I was Jewish. We were my parents were not religious. I never talked about and one of the things when we went into the ghetto I felt very thankful of being there with all these Jews. Kind of what do I have right incoming these people, and I once said something in my uncle got really mad at me. And I felt like you know. An indignity that I had to be there with all these people. I didn't think that I had no idea it was in any way belonged with. But my stepfather that point was in South America. In Brazil. From various adventures that are long and complicated, but he left money in Brazil for somebody in Brazil to keep sending us as food packages, but the food packages were things like coffee canned fruit, stir and sardines, and there were things that were a luxury. And so my mother would do better by selling them and bread. Then you know for us to use those things, but in order to sell them. She had to sell them to. Restaurants were on the other side. There were on the air inside, not inside the ghetto. and. This kind of you know this is my mother's thing. And she had this friend who seemed to be helping her go in and out Very romantic character who wrote a motorcycle and I? Don't really know the trouble is that my mother is not alive anymore and sometimes I wish that I could've asked her things, but by the time we came here. We with my stepfather, who is very jealous of her time away from him, so those things were never talked about I see, but anyhow. She she would go out. And sell the things. She got to restaurants and come back with real food. Except for one time when a can of something came, that had no, the label had came off. I really remember it so vividly, so must have been such a treat. The label came off. She didn't know what was inside, so she couldn't sell it. And we open the CAN, and it was pineapple cut in long wedges. And I had never had pineapple before it was just an amazing thing to have wow, but my mother used to go in and out of the ghetto, and she was a very attractive young woman at the time, and she claimed that she did it simply by the ghetto, the entrances to the ghetto where like. There was A. Policemen on the air inside. There was a German in the middle, and there was a Jewish policemen on the other side. That was Jewish police which did not have a very good. History. And She said that she was always people milling about you know showing their papers are trying to get out or trying to bribe somebody to get out that she would get out of the gather. She would try to edge as close as she could. The Aryan side and then whoever stopped her, she would say. She wanted to go into the ghetto. To see somebody of something I said. Would you have papers? And she said no, but I I really just wanted to go in, and they say no. You can't go in, and they would get impatient with him. Waiver away and she leaves. That's hilarious. St said she had a much harder time getting back in Rayleigh. She would have to try to convince them that. She really belonged inside and stuff. How bizarre so it was, but she used to do this and there was a curfew and many times when she went out, she come back by curfew time and my uncle would start tearing out his hair and say this. Is that, said it, she she must have gotten killed. This is terrible and I'd be. They're thinking okay. What how do I take this? You know and I had A. A mechanism that I used which is that I? said to myself O k. now you get the news that you mother's dead. What you do next and I would go through a procedure. I would say well. Go to this neighbor. And I would tell him such and such, and then I. Get my clothes and they would do this and I would have out. Just go through this entire rehearsal. Until she came back. In the ghetto people were being continually selected. For deportation they call deputation Bush, really going to camps or directly to guess. And you got taken to the railroad station, shocked plots and put on the train. To. You know. They were supposedly moved to the east or something. Did everybody knows that? They were going to to die after a while. Okay, after a while, because the story is that some guys followed the railroad tracks and realize what knows they mark the trains and realize the trains came back two hours later, so they couldn't have been going to where they said they were going. Because that same car came right-back, so then they follow the railroad tracks, and they got to the guest chambers in concentration camps and so forth. But my uncle, because he will, he worked at the. Station, he actually you know he could go in and out of there and move around, and he knew the back doors Cetera so he had actually saved. Some people by leading them out. If there was like people usually were like. Mass in this. Waiting station while waiting to go on the trains. And at that point they He was able to get some people out. the selections were constantly refine so that you had to be working. And then you had to or the head of the household head of the household had had some kind of work papers. Then household was saved so you. Everybody key was asked to come out of the building. And then you get lined up and show you documents, and they say right or left and and And some people got taken away and other people were left and a little horror. Story of that is I remember one time a guy was had a suitcase in his hand, and he was spared because he had. The correct papers and suddenly the suitcase made funny noises, and they opened up in those a baby inside Oh. He was put in the other category of people to be taken away, and you saw this. Happen or effort it. I was I was there, but these are the kind of things that I don't. They're not constant memories with me. You know I talked to somebody. I, I remember I mean I can remember I can access to that and sort of shakes me up, but you know then it's gone. You know it's not like something I think about a lot and My other kind of like weird memory like that is. A, lot of places you walked was starving children on the streets and my mother and I had gone someplace and were able to get a loaf of bread, and she was carrying it back, and the kid just ran up and bit into the of Bread Oh. My God and she said she just let him have it and we went home. So And, they were like dead bodies on the street, because was typhus epidemic. And so people were dying of that might. I had agreed an my mother's young. My grandmother's youngest sister who is a doctor in the ghetto. So when my mother! Lived, like couple blocks away from us in the ghetto and I used to often take my meals with them, so my mother would work. I would walk over to their house and have dinner with them and then come home, but my uncle. He were where he was working. He could do two things. He could bring his food because he was unloading food for the Germans so he would bring his food and he also would tell us when the next we're the next. A selection was going to happen eventually My Mom, my mother used for prewar passport, which had her maiden name on it, and and then was able to pass this his wife because he had the same name. We could use his work papers. But after a while, it wasn't just. Just the head of the household that had to be working, so you could be spared, but everybody had to be working. So my mother was, there was a a factory that made German uniforms Kotecki bins. and My mother went. My mother always hit a network of people. You know that she was there were helping her own the new things and all of that, so she went to work at Tibetans, and at Tibetans they had children. There were lots of women working this sewing machines, and they had a room where all the children could go and play. When my mother refused to be separated from me and I was tall for my age, I was eight years old. She put high heels on me and kerchief on my head, and she said me behind a sewing machine to her, and actually I just got Scott few years ago, got some. Money from the Germans for being a slave labor in its boost, my my wages really and wasn't very much, but I was only there for like. Maybe a month or Did you experience any emotion when you got that? Well let's it. Because that money get taken for some debt of my husband's like. Yeah. But Only one one time the Germans came and they took all the children. That were in the children's area. And that was a huge commotion in of the Women. In, you know, try to go after them and they just came with with. Vic trucks and loaded up all the kids and you saw this happen. Yeah, I mean some of that. It's like a dream I mean stuff like that. Because I didn't I heard it happen. I mean I didn't I didn't didn't look at me. There was commotion there was crying. There were people screaming and there was like like what penetrated. This more my mother, saying, see and you this will happen. That's why you're here. Right. You know so so there. Was this my mother protecting me from like and you have to do in other words I think what maybe what does it? It. The protection is that you have to cut some empathy. I don't know if you think I'm not empathetic person. I think sometimes some not another I can only take so much misery from other people, and then I'm very active in trying to help them. Fix It, but if they don't fix it or if they don't WanNa hear my. Advice about fixing. They just WANNA. Keep telling me how miserable they are. I do kind of empathy. I think that's super healthy really. Oh, absolutely you know at some point. You have to take care of yourself if somebody's not willing to get into the solution. That doesn't mean they have to do everything that you suggest, but they are not. If, they just want to be in self. Pity and wallow in self, pity, and not work towards a solution I think the healthiest thing in the world is to is to distance yourself from them, not forever temporarily, and and to say hey, with love. I have to detach from you because it's too painful for me to be around you to see you in this in this state where you're not willing to to help yourself more try something you know. I, think playing victim is an addiction for a lot of people, because then they don't have to take responsibility for themselves. I think that's a very very addicting quality. Because in some ways, it reverts back to childhood. What are your opinions on? Well I mean sometimes. I think that it's almost like A. Physical? Drive towards life you know. That may be. It's not intellectual. Maybe some people just don't have the life force and other people have more of a life force. But to me, it's like I can feel very upset about something in go outside and look at trees and flowers and get suddenly really. Uplifted by the fact that the world out there is incredibly constructed you know and flowers bloom in the spring in that whole thing is totally amazing, and it will cheer me up tremendously. Yeah, you know that may be by having you. Life threatened the just the idea of being alive can. Can get very. Exciting. Is it fair to say that you're happy to wake up. Every day and there's a certain vigor. I think so. I think so I mean I I. Sometimes get annoyed myself. 'cause I'm get into situations that I. Don't know how to get out of them. You know and then I. Spent a lot of time. You know wanting to get out but Generally I try not to persist in situations that don't make me happy. What was different about the Holocaust is that people were actually? Be Dehumanizing. a population that had once been part of them right, and that seems to me the weird thing and what happened in Poland was that while we were in the ghetto at one point, there was a whole lot of German Jews that arrived on their way to the. Wherever you know gas chamber so whatever? We didn't know what they were. We know that all of a sudden all these people appeared who seemed really starved and Dunning, and they were in transit, and I think there were there overnight. I. It seems like ghosts and I had read about it later that these were German, but we knew were German and people, and was at that point that people in the ghetto said if they're doing this to their own people, then forget about your survival. Yeah, you're not gonNA, make it. At that point, the war was ongoing, and they really couldn't spare much of the army. They couldn't spare much of the army so the p the the. People? who were the Germans who are involved? In deporting Jews in Inside the ghetto. Where Hitler Union, there are eighteen nineteen year olds that point we were moving from what my uncle would come and he would tell us which house had just been emptied. And we would go there. Those are some of this thing I'm wanted with is moving from from house to house and entering a house where people have just been taken out off and we entered. An apartment where there was still food on the table like people caught in the middle of a meal on Mike and they were photographs, strong all over the floor, and it looked like people had pulled our drawers, searching through that to see what they wanted to take wisdom since everybody thought they were being taken someplace within my survived in my life. And I have seen by photographs I. Really don't like to take photographs. I don't like to have photographs that much and I think dates to that moment of seeing all these photographs all over the floor of people I didn't know who they were, and after they took the children from the turbans factory. They came a couple of days later and emptied out the whole factory. And My. Mother said to me it is sky of his, and he really looks like he knows what he's doing. Let's follow him, so we're. Everybody was supposed to the building. We went with followed this man and he went into the basement and he apparently had some friends. Side who were on a work shift? Who then closed up the entrance to the basement with bricks and there was thirteen people in there. And we could hear the everybody leaving the building, and we could hear the Germans marching around looking for people and eventually they left. And while I was there. There was a really unpleasant event which which is that I had just gotten over being sick with Some kind of a you know a chest thing. I was prone to coughs. And I started to cough. and. While the Germans misdemeanor wandering about and people got really upset. The really terrified and basically said that we better, you know killer. Because she's going to give away. and My mother said No. No I'll take care of it. And she put her hand over. My mouth. Site couldn't cough and I. Started you know suffocating and I just remember the as a really horrible thing of it was okay because it was my mother, she wasn't let me die, but I was choking, and and it was really it was really horrible. That's does thirteen people stay together. So we, we moved around the city with my giving us some information about where to go and stuff. And when we eventually got caught, it was the same group of people. And they asked everybody leaves the building. and My mother said. We this closet under the stairs and we're GONNA hide in it. And I was terrified of hiding. I think partly from that experience of having my. You know of choking in being with cough. And the thing that to me was the worst was was smart with most terrified often is what eight years old. Of just being you know somebody opening a door and seeing me the shooting me right and just dying like Iraq basically Koran I said to my mother and I was like that as a kid is funny, because a lot of things that I wanted to do a wouldn't let my mother do and I said you go ahead and hard if you want to I'm going out. There I'm not gonNA hide in the closet, so of course she came. And So we were taken directly to the train station. and My mother said well. Don't worry because you know. Her brother is there and he can get us out, but she didn't quite one depend on that. So people kept in. So that's why I started with. These were young kids like Hitler you can. People were being led like six across down the street in the middle of the night to the to the train stations. and. They're saying to these guys. You know, let me go let me go. Here's my diamond ring. In these eighteen year. Olds for saying I got all the diamond rings I need I. Don't you Diamond Ring? And then my mother had a little Viennese watched that my father had given him. It was like a miniature watch, and he said she said. Would you take this in the kids set? Oh, yeah, my girlfriend will really like that. So he took it. So we're walking in, my mother says well what? You took my watch. This is what he said. I'M NOT GONNA. Take you by the hand, so we were walking down the street. There was a side street and my mother grabbed me and pulled me and we run down the side street. And the whole idea was when you bribe somebody. You expected that they would shoot after you. They have to because to show to the others that they wouldn't shoot to. To hit right right and that always fascinated me was the idea that basically all these us being herded. We're really not human right and there was absolutely no penalty for shooting somebody, because these guys used to get drunk or not get drunk. Just walk down the street at night and shoot people and they felt like it inside the ghetto. But that when you made. A commercial. Transaction with somebody that seem to me. That must've in some way made you human, so now was a contract and you? You know I mean he could have taken that watch and he could still shot us would have cared right, but that wouldn't have been nice. That's right. Isn't it amazing? I always find that I've found areas fascinating. I was said that was just an amazing thing, but anyway, so we ran down the street, but right now we're in A. We're in the middle of the night when this curfew. And it was raining, October. And we run into a doorway. Over building somewhere. and. Just to get as the rain and we hear a patrol coming down the street. Down the whatever it was in there. and IT'S A. It's oppose policeman in German. and. My mother was wearing an armband. I wasn't because you didn't have to twelve, so the first thing she did. She took her armband off and she stuffed it in her purse. And and I started running into the building, and she said No. No, no, we're going to go out and we're going to talk to them. And she took me by the hand, and she approached this patrol and inner was a peasant accent which could do. Started haranguing them. She said I came into some trading. 'cause they told me this was the best place and that you could sell things for a lot of money, and you could give from, but it's horrible, says it's raining, and and I'm with my child and came. Get Out of here, and it's dangerous and the shooting, and could you please tell me how it can get out of here? And they said Look Lady know we don't know what to do. We can't help you. Just leave us alone. She's and she just kept doing it. She just kept kept training them. You know I just gotTa get out of here. Somebody's gotTa tell me what to do I mean I had no idea was going to be like that. That's nobody warned me that that's how it wasn't here. And and I. Just really you know I just thought I make some money and I. Don't know what to do. They said well. We need a bicycle. Bicycle No, I have no idea where you can get. Just gotTA. Get Out of here and they said look lady just leave us alone. And they walk off. Wow and i. she said that her only fears that I was paled. She was afraid I was going to pass out. And I was afraid that they were going to ask to see some documents and she opened her bag. She would have her armband in the bag. Oh, my God! So that was after that she said this, is it? We're getting out of here meantime. She's trying to get. A message to my uncle that we're that we're okay. And she finally found a Jewish policemen, and she had promised him, and who had told her that he would let them know because he was going down to the to the railroad station. And and she had told him to tell him to call her at some, she was going to call him because they were actually public telephones you could use. She would call him at the road station at a given time. And meantime. Beckett the ranch. My uncle realized. That that heard that this house was raided and realized that these people were not going to be sitting in the station where he thought he could get us out. There were being put directly onto the train, so he decided to go to. And he packed a little suitcase and he lined up to go with everybody onto the train. And the people who were with us, whom he knew because we had been traveling to give started motioning to him that we're not there. And, he didn't believe it. He decided that my mother told them to do that to protect him and that he would just get on the train and he'd find us on the train. and. Apparently some last minute this policeman my mother talked to or somebody got a message to him that we really are not there. And he left. and. He almost got on the train. Yeah! Treblinka Auschwitz fits very. He's about to get on the train. Oh my God, so that someone they finally he came and met as soon as curfew was over, which is like six in the morning and I remember. That was such. An emotional meeting was like you know saved. My mother said to him. Look this, is it? I am not staying here for another minute. We're getting out of here so and I had because we had been traveling from place to place I had like three. Layers of clothes on and I hit a knapsack with a with a pillow and. Some little odds and ends. And that day we went from. Ghetto a gate to gate there like several gates You know these checkpoints for entering trying to get out? and. And people were bribing their way out, but you had to bribe three individuals the Polish policeman. The juice pollution. German and my mother didn't have any money or she had was jewelry. And they said sorry lady. We can't take Jordan because we don't know how to divide that up. Yeah it was so simple as that. That's when you it's really in so many ways. It comes down to commerce I know. Isn't it? I mean I've always liked Hannah Iran's book, the Banality of evil, because you always you get down to it and there's something really about it well. She met some other people that she knew and they said well. There is a guy who is. This a man who is a What do you call it? Like a caretaker of this There was a court building one of those huge buildings that went over a couple of blocks, and it had an entrance on the Geddes side, but also had an entrance on the air inside. It says there's a guy who's like a caretaker of the building, and if you meet him at the entrance after five o'clock when the buildings close he'll take people through the building and he's just only one person to bribe. So a whole group of people gathered. and. And this elderly. Gentleman who was the janitor in the building? collected stuff from everybody that he got paid for and took us up this Through the building up staircase down another staircase out another door. And I had an as one of those seminal Vince I headed. I'm a clumsy person I had a cake of soap in my knapsack, and as we got to this marble stairs, cake of soap fell out of my knapsack. Thing thing I bank down all stare saw my, and that was another one of those moments, but anyway nothing happened. and. They are. We all got out on the other side. And now we're in a city which is loose, seems perfectly normal with people walking around. You know I mean there's like. It's insane part of it. You come out of place where everybody is about to be killed, and the other words thing that happened in the ghettos at year is that the trees didn't bloom. They didn't get you leave song, and I remember that was very eerie and I thought maybe because of a lot of smoke I don't really know why, but they. It was a different vegetation. and. But you just a block away. And you walk out of the door and you're in the same city one block away, and it's a perfectly normal city with buses in train tramways in people walking around going home shopping. The demeanor of people was just night and day. Well! It was just it was just normal, and my mother said to me I. Mean we obviously looked weird? You know I I had all these weird closed on, and we didn't know how much the bus fare was. and My mother said to me now. Just pretend we're from the country. Should get on the bus and look up and say wow, look at these big buildings. Have you ever seen such big buildings before? And so hurts. Thing was always good. You know instead of hiding you attract attention to yourself, but lead people in another direction right like with the policemen about the pretending. She was yeah. Selling something in pissed off. She was always good like I've used that. Who is spending stopped for a ticket of deluding them with so much right to feel that they say all right lady. Just go on. Don't do this again, so So we came out. And it was close. It was evenings and there was again. There was an evening curfew and we basically had no place to go. You know we just dumped on the street and it's just you and your mother, my mother and actually this guy who took us through. since I think we must have been more or less than than other people in the group had no, he walked us for a couple of blocks. Just so we could start feeling a little more self assured. And then my mother remembered that my stepfather had an aunt. Who had married and a Catholic and had converted, and nobody knew she was Jewish, and she lived in Warsaw and she had an apartment. So so she said we'll go over there. So we went, we took the bus and we went over there I mean this is the city my mother lived in. It's not like she's in. Place. and. We go over there. And the woman opens the door and she's and she's totally terrified i. mean at this point. The death penalty for harboring Jew. And she says he can't stay here. Do you know you can't do this to me? You know how dare you and. By you know. We can get killed and my mother said look it's. It's almost curfew. We're going to stay here to till five o'clock tomorrow morning. The curfews lifted, but I'm staying here tonight, so she made us crawl on the floor, said nobody could see us through the windows. that. There were other people in her house, and she was totally horrible and terrified, and came five o'clock. We left, and my mother remembered that she had a friend who apartment in were so. And she kept that apartment she she didn't let she you know. When she moved into the ghetto, she moved in with her husband, who was an attorney and he was a fairly well known attorney. And she moved into the ghetto with him, but she kept her apartment with an old family made an old family retainer who brought her up when my mother knew because this was. You know, there's like in Poland. You have like a peasant woman that comes and lives with the maid and nanny. and My mother and this was the childhood friends, so my mother had been in and out of that house, so she went, she went there. And she knocked at the door. Woman recognize you and she said we had a place to stay, and she said well look. There's plenty of room here. To stay. You know as long as he like I don't care him. He all by myself to states completely different than that other person, so we moved into the apartment. And we lived there for the rest of the war to the worst uprising, but that's a whole other story, but the thing about The the woman who wouldn't let you know who didn't want us to stay in who is horrible terrified. Who is my stepfather's and? After the war was over my stepfather. Sent her money every month to support her. She was an old lady at that point. and. Then we went to war so after my mother died in nineteen, seventy two. And we went to visit her. And I was really. It's funny I? Was I was very upset and I just basically just isolate myself from everybody. And I didn't talk to anybody and my stepfather kept saying what's. You weren't you friendly? What's going on? What's wrong and say anything I? Said this woman who? WAS GONNA turn out. Do we could get killed? So I never I didn't know he knew I didn't know. If my feed, my mother should've told them I didn't want to be the one to tell him. Sit on the when we were visiting her. And But there was another relative. there's who is really Nice Woman that we you know stayed with. and. I mean after the war. was another who had survived and. I told her upset I was about having to go visit this and my stepfather's. And she said well she said you not the only one. She said she did the same. She turned her brother out and he got picked up two hours later and killed. Oh God. So, she said you're not the only one she wouldn't take him. But. Imagine how how that woman must have had to shut down. Emotionally the rest of her life to lift with herself. and. Every every month for. Ten years my twenty years. My stepfather was sending her money. I mean she was his relative. Kid. But anyhow, so we but my uncle stayed because he felt he was safe. because. He had this job. Well, things got so lawless inside together. This was October of forty three things got so low as inside together that that the Germans would just shooting people on site. You know they didn't care so They didn't take time to ask you to show you their documents so there. Whatever the the authority was the. that. You know they were people that they needed like my uncle who had a job of unloading the trains with the food supplies for the Germans, so the people who absolutely had an iron clad reason to be there were wearing numbers large metal things on a metal chain on their next, so they would be immediately identifiable And we use to. My mother had a a setup with my uncle was shoot talked him on the phone. And then. There was like a bombed out building on the get of side that you could go upstairs in. And there was a building on the on the Aryan side, we could see that building from, and she was set up a time with him, and we would go up to the building and look out the window in the hallway and he would go into the opposite building, so we could see. So that way she could see that he was still alive. Wow, and I remember. He was just really emaciated and he had this metal. You know number on his neck. Well in. February. Of Forty I think was in February. Of Forty Four. He came out through the sewers. And Jaundice Wow. And then the uprising was in April and that was just you know there was just a group of people who are basically knew they were committing suicide, but rather than getting killed. There were going to do that way. and. Says that was in the in the get was burned to the ground, and that was the end of the Warsaw ghetto. So then we lived in war so. in that apartment, the woman owned the apartment came out of the ghetto with her husband. And her mother-in-law. So at that point there were like. Six of us in the apartment. And when she first came out, of course, she wanted us to leave because she she wanted you know some just a two bedroom apartment I guess and Oh and the room was rented to a guy who worked for the underground. Who Was Not Jew? And My mother became friendly with. And, then my mother and this woman, her old friend. Started with having a kind of a site the adversary situation because she wanted my mother to leave. My Mother didn't WANNA LEAVE She was friendly with the guy who was living there. He knew there were Jewish. He started bringing in arms and and underground papers to keep in the apartment. Keep saying what do people care? They catch you you dead anyway, so it doesn't matter if they catch you. They catch right. Except felt, that was sending niece, and my mother began to work for the ground, and she was working as a courier. One of the things they mentioned on this documentary last night is how the women and the children would be couriers for the resistance. Yes, and my mother worked for the. That was for the. Polish? Underground except the Polish underground was quite anti-semitic. Reseau Oh. Yeah, so they didn't know she was Jewish when she was working I mean this guy knew, but the other guy didn't know but We needed. You know papers. And the underground they were very expensive to come by. My mother always had to do things in ways that did not involve money because we didn't have the money so she. told the underground that her husband was a prisoner of war who had escaped and the Germans were looking for us. Looking for him and their for looking for us, and they gave her a set of. False papers with a different name on it. The gator pricing listen April and that was. It was gone gun. It was all over except for the people who made it through there. A couple of other weird things, which is the Germans decided at one point that all Jews they didn't get. They weren't gonNA get. There were. So, well hidden or somehow saw that they got everybody that was gettable, and that was it, so they made one last attempt. They made an announcement that they understood that that was the case. And therefore these people were safe, and therefore, if paid some large sum of money and appeared at a certain place, you would be taken to Cyprus and you could live in Cyprus. Survive anyway, but they just didn't want them in Poland. So at nobody trusted that and I a few people went, and then they send letters back from Cyprus. Indeed, we're in Cyprus, and everything is wonderful, and everything is fine and my uncle who always? Won't you know I? Mean there he was, he was a young man was totally confined. And he wanted to go. Didn't have the money. There is no way could make it go. He really suffered. He really wanted to figure out some way could go. It was called the Polish hotel and that's it's called the Polish hotel. Affair where these people were supposed to go to this hotel, and the Germans would pick him up. Put Him on a plane and send them off to Cyprus well. That first group went to Cyprus. That was the last groups went to say the rest, were you. Nobody ever heard for the rest of the people. They just they just wanted to pull out some of the money that they need. Most people had they had to have in order to be able to maintain themselves. After my mother got her papers from the underground. and was in real tension with the woman who only apartment of moving out the Germans had declared that they had to be certain number of people registered per apartment as the waste, they would assign people. At that point, my mother was a godsend to this woman because she and I could be registered in the apartment. Because we now have these fake papers, otherwise they would have assigned somebody to the apartment should have been done in, so everything was fine, and we all stayed in the apartment. and. The German the but the way that they supported themselves. Is that the the husband? The mother in law and my uncle baked pastries at night because the whole idea was that they should sleep during the day, so they wouldn't be seen moving around the apartment. Yeah. So they were up all night baking pastries in the morning on her way to work, my mother would deliver them to restaurants. And that was, and they would by the the ingredients on the black market, and the only problem. was that gas with rations, so they had to turn off the gas meter in the apartment, so there's always think of the gas meter. Guys. Coming is the meters back owner. Isn't it on and they had a little hiding place in the apartment when people would squashed in when? They thought somebody was coming. Would, the Germans did is Did you see the pianist? Oh, great movie! Yeah, that was very similar. I mean that was kind of my. That was kind of my my story. He was in war so. And I didn't know how clear it was. What was going on, but the Germans were evacuating the city block by block, and you're supposed to go into this main square, and then go to the railroad station and go through a medical exam and be sent to work camps. And and then they systematically burn the city block by block. As soon as the block was supposed to be evacuated, that would set it on fire. In that movie. I didn't sing was clear because there's all these firebombing going. Well, that's what it was just burning. City wasn't like a war right so But. We couldn't go through a medical because of my uncle right well, we couldn't go to. To the railroad station with him, so we meandered around city, trying to figure out what to do, and that's point things. We really different because the Germans that were there. were, not the assess they were the Verma there was. It was the front because the front was was right there. The Russians were across the river. The front is moving the whole thing about the uprising. Instead the post thought that the that the Russians were coming. They were right across the river. worser is on. The river was like there are New Jersey and we were in New York and So, the Polish underground wanted to have the. The political plum of being able to hand over a liberated city to the Russians in meet them as equals and not have the Russians liberated them. Nets with uprisings all right? So in the meantime the Russians just sit there and they didn't come out of. The Russians were certainly no friends to the to the Polish. The Polish underground was very reactionary underground. And by there was also a communist underground, but by the time that was pretty well wiped out with the help of the other Polish into chrome, and a lot of them had gone over to the Russian side anyway, so they were to to underground movements and the Communist one was weak and pretty much gone. They mainly be then when they saw that the other Polish. Underground was not their friends. They went to the. Light of them joined the partisans in the woods. But thing went on for like two months, and we will happen to live in the building. We lived in was a very massive building that belonged to the bear aspirin. Company. Was German building new a lot of Germans in the building, and we were one of the few apartments that we had that was posed because she had had this apartment for a long time and in the basement there was like a three storey basement, which was a furniture company kept it with for this storehouse, so it was like the perfect shelter. So he could. A lot of people just moved into the basement and lived there for these two months, and it was a whole other other piece of it. but my uncle. At one point, the German declared an armistice and said they. They understood that it was the population was be was trapped here and the they weren't. You know necessarily wanting to fight the German, so they would call an office and people could leave the city. So again. Some people said No. When we don't trust them to do it. It's a trap. Ask People said come on, let's get out of here. Some my uncle was the ones who was either gonna go or wanted to went outside to see what was going on and there was. The House started being bombed. He got a shrapnel in his leg, so he was laid up. At one point that whole building was like. See The street fighting in a change from St. Street and one point, the whole building was like just an island in among the Germans were appointed, a lot of people left, went through the sewers and various things, and went to the other side of the city, because was being shelled. At which point the German stopped shelling this because we just left like half a block or something and shelled the other side and people try to get back, but we couldn't leave because my uncle couldn't walk, so we stayed there. and. So, when it was all over, and they were evacuating the the army, the Polish army capitulated, and the city was being evacuated and systematically burned, and we started wondering around the city, and because the Germans were. Military they really you know. They were kind of confused though scoring on the population. and. The woman who had the department? Was Educated in Germany spoke fluent German. And I'll just give you. This is going to on too long. You one other. Interesting incident. My uncle found started talking to a couple of German soldiers and found, and he had a camera. And he said I'll give you this camera if you were escorted out of the city. So that we could leave the checkpoint city with a German escort, so they said sure. So! He gives them. He gave them a watch and he gave them a camera and we found some guy who had a wagon. With because he had come to evacuate his family, he was folks storage. You could declare yourself of German ancestry, and then you hit special privileges in. Your call the folkestone, so he was folks, storage and He had all these papers, but he couldn't find anybody you know. The whole city was an uproar. People just wandering around. He couldn't find any of his family, but he hit a pass for taking six people out of the city. So, he started selling that. We, my mother met this woman had a bunch of money anyway, so she and she had just had a dog who had puppies and people eating dogs. She was trying to protect her dogs with puppies, so she got on the wagon with her dog in the puppies, and they put me on the wagon and she was scared to be alone. My mother said well come with you, but you gotta pay for all this she did and up. And the the old. mother-in-law who only spoke Yiddish when on and told everybody that she was deaf and dumb, not to try to talk to her, she won't. She can't talk. And they put us on the wagon because it didn't fit all the people because there's already too many more people than he hit a pass for. And They said you just take these people and some of our stuff and we'll walk behind you. Turn out that there was more checkpoints afterwards. Wasn't just that checkpoint getting out of the city and when this guy realized that he got a little panicked. So that he had all these people that he didn't have permits for so he just whipped up the horses, and took off, and I was on the wagon, and this lady was on the wagon, and this other woman and I. See my my mother and my uncle and this other woman Just getting smaller in the distance and we're off. And we come to the net to another checkpoint and that this checkpoint they said to the guy. Didn't you leave some people behind you, aren't there? People are more people coming and he said Yes, he said well you to wait here, too. They arrive and he saw that. Was it you know? Dead so they arrived, and the the German that the checkpoint said Okay these people that are with you, you can go now. And he had no idea what happened right so as soon as we get out of the site of the checkpoint, he said all right everybody out. I'm not taking any further and just dropped us off on side of the road. What had apparently happened was that when they saw the wagon? Disappearing in the distance with me and the other people on it. there was a German officers car went by and this woman. Who spoke German flagged them down. And said we're leaving city in this guy took off with my friends child. No, this and I'm German. and. He's not you know he had. We had a contract with him, and he's not doing it, so he said you German and she showed them letters she'd brother in Germany. Who Actually was at that point? A concentration camp? She showed them letters addressed to her from Germany, and she spoke perfect. German she said Yeah I'm gentleman, but he's got Oh my documents on the wagon and everything's there and you got to help me, so he said all right I'm going down there. I'll take care of it. It's amazing time after time after. It's like you know when when you when. People say will such amazing combination of coincidences, and then you I think to myself. Yeah, the people who didn't have an amazing Continuation of coincidences. Aren't you right? It's like a selection process. Then not here, but then again there's this other side of it like I was saying that people who are sure that everything's GonNa work out. Okay in some mystic way, and if you read about people like Napoleon or Churchill or or de Gaulle. They to their this constant things when they do these things that go out on a limb with a sense that. Everything's GonNa. Work out so sometimes. I think there may be some kind of a pre cognition. Part that most people have in them or she just genetically born to be able to be a survivor like that because time after time after time you were faced with imminent death and your mother. Just a bolt of lightning straight hit her and she just. Well I think it. Yeah, it's a certain kind of self assurance. My mother was held back. She wanted to be to take over her father's business before the war he didn't. He felt it wasn't appropriate. To be accent, son, right, she wanted to go to law school. They wouldn't let her, so. She went into Secretario or an accountant's course. and. She wanted to marry. Somebody will let her marry, so she marry somebody else since my father and marriage didn't work out. And in some way I always think the war years was my mother's at her most energetic, and you know he'd to say happy, because it's not right, you know I mean. She was very concerned by her parents. What she did is she worked very hard to get. She decided that the reason her parents wouldn't leave where they were was because of their possessions. You know the the linens the silverware of that, so she got permits to bring all that tour so. And actually it all arrived in the ghetto and set and big cray. I don't know what happened to it. She figured if only she could get their possessions there. They wouldn't felt like they had to stay there. And it just it just never happened, but in order to do that she had to. She had to go to the stopper and get all these papers and everybody always said you know so. She would just walk in there and she'd be charming at one point. She had a string of pearls she was playing with. I remember because she always. Used and it broke and they fell over the floor, so she had all these German. Downer the hands and knees trying to pick up the beads. Twenty nine. She's very used very charming as she physically attractive. Yeah, she's. So self assured. Looks like Ingrid shoop. That liking good Bergman. She had that kind of. Is it fair to say that? During the war years your mother's best qualities were brought out. I think so, but what I have to tell you. It's very sad that when we came here to the United States. Is the United States which she didn't WanNa. Go be very much because she had a good job after the war and she had. Married my stepfather just a year before the war, he was a difficult person. And she and she didn't seem. She hadn't seen him for seven years. So. She was twenty nine when he left, she was thirty six. When she saw him again and I felt guilty about it because everybody said to her when she said she didn't WanNa go, they sit you daughter. You have an opportunity to give her a life in the United States and you're not going to do it. That's terrible and then if you don't like it, you can always come back. We always said she wanted to come back, but she never did. But. That first year. We lived in New York. City and my stepfather was working somewhere and then engineer dot making very much money there was you know housing really hard? At that point, we lived in one of those transient hotels. It was all horrible. And she got. Very depressed and quite sick. and. She was probably sick for a whole year. I think she had she was anemic. And you know there I was used to this energetic mother and she was just she had just collapsed. Did she ever seem as alive? Post war as she did. When you were I think i. Would ask the kids with their memories of over. Because then I got you know my I the thing about my mother. Then I I went and got my degree, and I took the kids cross country, and it seemed to me that my mother was always worried about me. You know what I was doing crazy. What I was doing wasn't GonNa work out and I used to say about. My mother is my mother's things I can that. I'm able to do anything that I want and she'll be do her damnedest to try to stop me. Explain that a little bit well that she had a lot of faith in my abilities in my energy and all that, but it worried so much that you'd rather, I didn't do it whatever it was and. And one time I remember saying to her. She was saying you know you just to intelligent, and you want to do these things, because because you think you can, but they're really dangerous, or you shouldn't be doing them or whatever? What workout and found I said you know if I was retarded I could be an institution, and everything would be taken care of. She's the goose maker so mad when I said that was always my answer. Well I was retarded. Institutionalize, and then I would be totally safe and taken care of. have to have thing to worry about and I'm sure that made her happy when you said that. Do you ever experience? Survivor guilt. You know I not. Not to in that way you know. I always felt and maybe this. This is maybe dismantle what which getting it that when a person. If you. Some example of that I had I don't remember, but if you meet somebody who says. This is terrible. You know you're about to be to be killed. I'm going to go with you, you know, and if you're going to die, I'm GonNa die to. That's not the person will be with I. WanNa be was a personal Suzanne, which young going to get you out of here, right? You know so in a way I feel. I feel sad that there are people that I wish that were. He is not here, but it's like I'm I'm said from me. You, know because I'd like to have them here. I think, Gee, know of my grandparents had lived in and And they really loved me on my childhood. Nice memory serves my grandparents and all this you know. Would they have done that? Have done from me but I in a way I don't understand the term Because I would only feel guilt. If I did something wrong, right? Yeah, I think to being a child. You didn't really have anything. Power to feel guilty about other than the fact that you survived and other people didn't which certainly has nothing to feel guilty about? But for some reason people that have been through stuff like that or war, soldiers experience a lot of people that are in air air disasters I. Guess what I mean by. That example is said I'm I. Don't feel bad that I. didn't join them. I feel bad. They didn't which makes sense. It seems healthy but I didn't, but it's not like you know. I feel badly about my mother, said she kind of. I felt when she died and she was fairly. Well I didn't know she was young at the time now. It seems like she was young. She was like what sixty two. That! That I felt like she hadn't. It hadn't happened. She didn't have the good life yet that she. Should have had the end. But then maybe she did, I bought a House I. A house in New Hampshire with hundred acres of land, that I loved and I In sixty five. And I used to go and stay there and my mother couldn't understand that the city people and you know being in the country. Was I going back in? To something that she got away from right right and they couldn't imagine living anywhere brand. New York City because that was the height of. Of the good life and She came to visit me and she said. How can I was by myself, so he stint being he. You don't see another house and you know it's no people in Salani and I said look but look I can look out the window and as far as husband, the middle one hundred eight years of land as far as I can see is online and she should have the same thing in my apartment. And it made me think that she really. You know he was happy with what she had. Yeah, which to me seem an adequate in some way, so I don't know. I went to visit my parents. We went away on vacation. My husband and my first husband and I, and our two children, which must have been like four and six or something of the time, and my parents came this Raymond author stepmother. This is in the United States and my parents came I think we were in Saratoga, and they were going to take them to New York. And give us a real vacation. And my stepfather was gonNA drive to and At that time they were no seat belts and nobody worried about. Stuff like that, but anyway kids were in the back seat and they drove off. And I started to get terribly worried. That something. That, there was going to be a car wrecks. and meantime everybody we were sharing vacation with another couple and everybody was all excited, and the now the kids were gone. We're going to go to the movies and we're going to go dancing and whatever we're GonNa do and I went into a thing that was very similar to my to the thing with my mother of saying. This is going to be next. I'm going to get the news that there was an accident in the kids were killed. And while everybody was going and I couldn't go anywhere. And was paralyzed and I couldn't tell anybody what was going on with me. So I finally said to everybody look. Why don't you just go to the movies? I think I'm coming down with the flu. I'm feeling really sick and I gotta go to bed. And I tried to go through my rehearsal. Now you get the news and I couldn't do it. Couldn't be done. You know that was not something I could deal with or wanted to go through. And so I just said okay. I'm sick. I'm going to bed. And I went to bed until my parents called and said they were home. Whenever produce? Wow so it was an interesting experience for me because I had always done this. Actually my husband at the time used to work in New York once a week, and I used to drive him to the airport and I would do the same thing when I took him to the airport. I would go home and they say okay. Now you get the phone call. The plane crashed and he's dead. What you do well these documents. Have to tell the kids in this way and do this so that I could do that fine, and it was very assuring for me to know that you know I'm going to go through the steps. That's how I'm GONNA handle it, but when it came to the kids thing I realized I couldn't handle. That there was no way I could make myself feel better right and it was. It was good. I liked it because it meant that there was some things that you know we're not. The Mercer rival didn't count more right than those things. Yeah, so there was just A. It was one of my interesting. I would imagine having. been through what you've been through and especially at such an early age. Everybody has coping mechanisms for how they deal with things, and obviously you've just. You've just shared one with US wanted to show you how it works, and then it doesn't work right. What are what are some? Other instances where you? You feel like what you went through. Informed how you dealt with stuff Later in life, or or didn't deal with things or is that there's that kind of the biggest one that stands out to you. Don't know I think that. Once. Many years ago, we had a friend who was a psychiatrist and who specialized I think it was actually the person I was talking to my have been Robert. Lipton but I'm not sure anyway. This guy who does a lot of writing about. A survival an Holocaust survivors and other survivors. And actually that time I think that's who must have been because. We lived in Cambridge and somebody asked me to do a bunch of translations. Off Testimonies. They have taken from children. who had survived concentration camps and the testimonies? We're in Polish and asked me to do the translations. And I started doing that and they're pretty horrible stories. Just real horror stories of these kids and I at that point. My children were like in. You know in school. And they could read and I was terrified of. They're finding those translations. I didn't want them to read that so I would. I would type it up during the day in the night. Hide it and finally. I told him I didn't WANNA. Do this anymore. Because it was, too, it was too depressing. And Sometime that point somebody talked to me about you. Know those experiences and stuff and they said to me you know you living is if you're still in the ghetto. and. I was terribly insulted because I mean I. was in Graduate School I was teaching I had two kids I. Had you know how am I thought I was living really well and had a very happy life, but for some reason that stuck with me and every time when I think that I should have. Done more or did things or did something and that I still. Have a sense that what's most important survival and that I look at things that I do. As I'm very good at handling crises, and the more threatening they are, the more they energize me. If I wasn't if it wasn't for that I mean I have a lot of friends who think that I look for crisis situations so that I can deal with them. And that if I didn't do that then, maybe you know there'd be other things I'd be doing that would be more advantageous to me than trying to avoid disaster. So, because whenever somebody says Gee, what are you GonNa? Do now I mean this terrible thing is happening I have no problem with dealing with that. You feel like you go to kind of an intellectual place in your brain. That is kind of logical, and there's a reassurance in a soothing quality to that. Or, is it just you? You Block out the motion? Bio focusing on the logic well, it's not so much logic. It's just basically yeah. I'm a guest. This logic is figuring out okay what to do how to get around this how to solve this problem and how not to get derailed by worrying about it? You know it's like when my daughter had. What sounded like a very threatening illness? and. And and my sense was well. You don't focus on how threatening this what could happen. That's bad. You try to figure out how to deal with it, so maybe it will turn out. Okay. Yeah, that sounds perfectly healthy to me. Healthy but I don't know when when it's not. A. Life and death situation whether I lose some energy and don't follow through the way I might have if it was more threatening. Really Yeah, I don't know. Jeff, what do you think it sometimes just seems too simple to do the the life thing whereas the crisis? Is You know like okay? Here's a I've been put on a mission and I can take. Can problem solve and my you know I? Know How to hyper focus on that and I feel like that's something gotten. From my mother's genes. Yeah. My daughter is quite involved, too. In Holocaust, survivors, kids and children Parka service and she feels. A lot of her life has also been. Circumscribed somewhat by being a child of a Holocaust survivor, and I really I always felt I tried to protect the kids from all these experiences. When I was teaching I, had a seminar at one point, or what were you teaching I? was teaching sociology at Brandeis and a one point somehow I got involved in doing a seminar for children of Holocaust, survivors. And this is the thing that I thought it was kind of interesting. They either like their parents very much or didn't. And it seemed to me that the parents divided into victims and survivors. And where the parents who told their kids about all the stories about how clever they were in getting out of situations, and how they manage to to survive, and the kids were very fond of those parents. Then, there were the other parents who impressed upon the kids how victimized they had been, and what terrible things happen to them, and the kids were not all that sympathetic to those parents now tended to be a sex difference that is the women more tended to be presented themselves victims. In the man, the father is more were more likely to present themselves as survivors. But that victim versus survivor. Situation it seems like. The kids whose parents presents of survivors had more of that. Would Jeff talking about You know an energy towards problem solving that, can you? Can you talk about how you how you free yourself from from the past if at all? Well. I used to do it. Very much avoidance, you know I never went to movies about the war. I didn't read stuff about the war. I didn't really want to be presented with it and part of it had to do with. This is another kind of a seminal event when I first came to this country. I went to eighth grade in new. York City. Some. Kids started asking nineteen forty six, and there were a lot of refugees, and some kids in school started asking me about things, and I started telling them a little bit about. Some version of I guess what I've been through. It was like an a little girl jumped up and said don't believe a word, she says my father says all these refugees. They just come here. They tell you this terrible story, so you feel sorry for them. And and they lie. My, that chat me right up. And I at that point made a decision. That, when you come out of an insane asylum, you tell people that you came out of an essay. And you described. You don't describe what happened in San. Silom you pretend it. You've always been normal and that life has always been normal for you. And that was kind of a defining decision at that point of how I was going to act, but that couldn't have been healthy choice. COULD IT I? Suppose I'm asking. I suppose for for seven or eight year old Yeah, it was twelve or twelve. Boy, that's A. that's a hard one because. You know people need to open up about their pain for not to. Okay I had another another. There was another piece to that decision. And that I only recently realized was rose, was not reasonable, but very helpful I G I'm really sug lead. They don't believe it because if they don't believe it. That means that they can't think you can happen that things like that happen. They're incapable of making things that happen. And as they grow older, they will not allow things like that to happen because it's bill beyond their comprehension. And I said that was a very positive thing about the world yeah. Wow. See. That's one of the things why wanted to have you on? As a as a guest is because. Until you've lived something. Like you have somebody like me, can never picture the places that you go to in your brain and it fascinates me how? Things like? Worrying about your very survival on a daily basis, what what areas of your soul you're forced to kind of access and your brain, this one thing that I think a lot of the survivors share, and that also always fascinated me, because I see like in fiction and instincts for most people who survive there, some intuition or a sense that yes, you know. They're going to make it that they they. Don't question, and I, thought for me to do the fact that I was with my mother all the time I was not a kid who was off by themselves, so I was with my mother, and she was very clever and very energetic, and there was a sense that whatever happens. She would take care of me one of the things that. Jeff told me about you, is it? You have done some activism for for Peace Causes? Can you talk about that a little bit? My activism was more in was more in the women's movement. I came out over a situation where I felt. Women were very active, very important and very important to survival and my expectations of myself, but some of it was just European came here, and it seemed the fifties were incredibly backward when it came to dealing with women, so that was kind of A. It was a kind of self-assertion so I really. I. Don't know it seemed like so much a part of me that it's very hard to analyze. You know what it seems inconceivable to have done anything else. Yeah, that's why that's how I feel about Rights for gays right now. It's like how can. It's inconceivable to me that anybody would want to deny to people that are in love, the ability to live legally together and not only to. To be against. It is inconceivable to me, but to go out of your way with all the shit. You have to do during your day. To waste time denying other people, happiness is just inconceivable to me. Yeah, and on, yeah, the whole thing's just it's it's kind of. It's kind of insanity and I wonder at what point you know, the only thing that scares me about what's going on now. Is that I? Look at it and say. How could they possibly elect any of these idiots? And how could they possibly you know have all this The arguments for it and saying get the government out of our lives, but make sure the government this. Married and all that other stuff, but then I think you know that must have been going on. When Hitler was coming into power, they must've been all these people not only that, but he wrote a book Mein Confident. He said exactly what he was going to do. And people just kind of didn't believe it or thought it was inconceivable, or it didn't make sense. And there he wasn't. He got into power. And what really? Of course it's different now, but the other things that really gets me. Is that we had the forms of Communication Been Sings to Jeff that we have now. Internet you know cell phones. Photographs on your phone calls read. I don't think the caller goes could have happened. And that to me is that's the one thing that just gives me gives me chills that it's that simple. Not Simple but you know. A few years of technology and I don't think any of that could would have happened here and my grandparents would have been alive. My friends would have been alive, and and and the world has been all different because of that. Resistance could have organized about her and put up a fight I think people would have known what was going on Oakwood and couldn't even pretended that they didn't run. Oh, yeah, you know. And they were. There was such an interwoven society in terms of WHO got. You know in in everything that I. Don't think it this. Could have. Happened on that scale. This is a quote from Marshall McLuhan I. Guess Saying that any act of violence. Is An attempt to define your identity. And I just that really struck me as very powerful yeah, and to protect your ego because ultimately. The violence is almost always born born out of. Out of ego in your your that the guy who attacks somebody a gay in the bar is trying to prove to everybody that he's not gay exact so that it's always kind of has to do with your identity by saying I'm not them. no I'm not this decision either trying to be something or not be some. The something and yeah. It makes perfect sense to me. Well Christine I wanNA, thank you so much. Is there anything? As we wrap up that you'd like to say to somebody out there. WHO's who stuck? Who struggling who feel stuck in their head or hopeless? And doesn't know what to do. I, give it both it's very simple, but like what I was saying before about the energy for life that I feel often when I see people like that and I'm saying he. Don't. You realize that you were live and that you have? You can do things ended there there. Are you know millions of people who had they had nothing, but just life. You know they could have done things that would have been happy. That's all they wanted in. You have that in yet because you have a life, but you know X. or Y. happened, or you don't have this. You don't have that. Is that enough to just completely? Fold Up. I know some, but I don't know what would give you that sense of the value of just just being alive and being here and being able to. Look out or relate to people do whatever that that to me is one of the most mysterious things about life this is where does that come from an and is that just a gift from the universe? Is that something we can cultivate I I don't I. Don't know the answer. To that but. I know when we have those moments when we feel inside ourselves that that is something to be grateful about into and to not take for granted. You know so as long as you have that spark of life in you, you should be. Okay Yeah. I WANNA. I WANNA. Thank you so much for. For opening up and talking about stuff that I I know. Some of it was not easy. To to go back and to think about or talk about, but I I appreciate it and I know my listeners appreciate it and and I. WanNa thank you for raising a great son who's been a good friend to meet somebody who really has great beautiful energy about him and. that. That again. I don't know how much credit I can take for it, but I love him to. Thanks Christie. Many thanks to Christine keys and and Jeff Rosenthal, and all you guys for for listening and the people that helped make the show possible. You can support it nonfinancial by going to a tunes and giving us a good rating. And I've of me. if you're out there and you're feeling stuck. Just remember there is hope. Do not give up. You are not alone. Thanks for listening.
Frederic Chopin 1: About Frederic Chopin
"I'm Naomi Lewin welcomed at classics for kids. Frederic Chopin was one of the greatest pianists of his day. Every single piece of music. He wrote used the piano. Chopin was born in eighteen ten in town just outside of Warsaw Poland, but his name doesn't sound very polish. That's because Chopin's poverty was born in France. He moved to Poland married, a polish woman and wound up staying for the rest of his life. Frederic Chopin did just the opposite of his father as a young, man. He moved to France and stayed there for the rest of his life. And he never got married. His mother was the one who introduced Chopin to the piano by the time. He was six Chopin not only played phenomenally. Well, he was also starting to compose. So his parents got him a music teacher. But he wasn't a pianist. He was violinist since Chopin's teacher couldn't really show him. How to play his instrument? He showed him what to play instead leading him through all kinds of keyboard music by great composers because he never had an expert piano teacher Chopin came up with his own unique style of playing. Chopin's family moved to Warsaw. And that's where he gave his first concert at the age of eight, but Chopin quickly found out that he didn't enjoy performing in public in spite of the fact that he was so famous he actually gave very few concerts for paying audiences. He preferred playing in private homes for small groups of friends. The time Chopin was twenty he was pretty bored with saw so he set off to seek his musical fortune in other European cities. He was a big hit, Indiana. But when Chopin reached Paris that's where he decided to stay first of all there was the French connection of his father's background also as much as he loved Poland Chopin hated the thought of going home. That's because there had been an unsuccessful revolution against Poland's Russian rulers who were now completely in charge. Chopin was very unhappy thinking of the country he loved being dominated by Russia. There's a story that when Chopin left Poland some friends gave him a silver goblet full of polish soil, which he carried around with him for the rest of his life. That's probably not true, but Chopin did continue to be a passionate polish patriot. Even though he never returned to his native country. Chopin made a big splash in Paris. So even though he didn't like giving concerts. He had no trouble making a living. Lots of people bought the music. He wrote then took very expensive piano lessons from him. While he was in France Chopin had an interesting girlfriend named George actually her name wasn't really George. It was ovo French for Aurora since back, then it wasn't acceptable for a woman to be a writer of oh do devoe wrote under the name Josh song, George sand. Sometimes she even dressed like a, man. Frederic Chopin was never healthy when he was only thirty nine. He died of Burke, yellow sus. He was buried in France and special box of polish earth was imported to sprinkle on his grave, but Chopin ask to have his heart removed put in an urn and sent to Warsaw you can still see it there in the church of the Holy Cross. one kind of piece that polish composer Frederic Chopin. Especially liked writing was the pollen is a polish dance. The military Pullen is by Frederic Chopin. I'm Naomi Lewin. I write classics for kids and produce it with Tim Lander at WG UC Cincinnati next time on classics kids more about the Pullin as I hope you can join me then.
Canadian author Judy Batalion on the young Jewish women who fought the Nazis in the Warsaw Ghetto
"Around the world more than eighty women have accused peter nygaard of crimes ranging from rape to sex trafficking. If far exceeds jeffrey epstein. He far exceeds bill cosby. He exceeds anything that i think are worlds as seen. So far a pattern of predatory behavior spanning half a century nygaard denies it all but now he faces criminal charges. Just a poor man. He would have been jailed decades ago. He hid in plain sight. Evil by design available now on. Cbc listen or wherever you get your podcasts. This is a cbc podcast on this day. Seventy eight years ago. The nazis moved into remove. All jews from the warsaw ghetto. Earn allows men was a survivor of the ghetto and she remembers hearing about those plans to transport them to concentration camps. Was the first time that we heard about for blink because you know people like to fool themselves not no fuss. I mean this goes for my parents and we just couldn't believe that needs to her dinkas transport the cash to As they call for. Nick clark you know the places where they are going to gas you know kill myself. It was impossible to believe and yet jews in the ghetto became determined to resist for twenty eight days. They revolted. this is anna. Heilmann order of the day was that we are not going to be taken a life. You know. we're not going to be allowed to take on the transport and i was all Hyped up was it. I knew that this is exactly what i am going to do. We have not going to go just like that. So was just a conviction we are just not going the determination of anaheim and other women in the jewish resistance as part of a holocaust history. That is often forgotten. Judy battalion writes about their struggle in her new book. The light of days the untold story of women resistance fighters in hitler's ghettos. Judy good morning. Good morning this is a wild story. How did you stumble into the history of these jewish women. Fighting in nazi occupied poland. I stumbled into this story completely by accident. I was living in london at the time. And i myself am a granddaughter of holocaust survivors and i was interested in the generational transmission of trauma. I was doing some research at the british library around this and happened to come across a book that i saw was quite unusual. It was in a blue fabric with gold lettering and old book and it also happened to be in yiddish it was called foyers into ghettos women in the ghettos but i always say even more unusual than the book is the fact that i speak yiddish so i started reading through this just out curiosity and what i found stunned me. These were pages a two hundred pages with information about dozens of young jewish women. Who fought the nazis in faulk them from the ghettos with chapter titles like weapons ammunition partisan combat. It was simply a nothing like any holocaust narrative that i've ever heard heard those stories before. Do you think yeah. That's a great question. And this sort of became the sub question of all my years of research on the one hand what happened. What is the story and on the other hand. What happened to this story. How could i possibly not have heard about this. And i get into much more detail of course in my book but some reasons. Our political their ways of the story of of the holocaust has been shaped for political reasons in particular in poland and in israel. There's also a question of zeitgeist. I think we've been interested in different elements of the holocaust at different times. We've also been uncomfortable talking about different elements of the holocaust at different times. But a lot of this is personal in. It comes down to the fact that many of these women didn't tell their story. I tried to tell them and they weren't believed or they were even accused of collaborating or sweeping their way to safety. Many of them felt a very pungent survivor's guilt they. These were women who were setting up a working for the red army espionage missions smuggling weapons broad daylight and yet they felt that compared to their fellow survivors who had been through switz- save they hadn't they hadn't had it that bad they hadn't suffered adequately they didn't mirror it telling their story yes and then and then finally i feel like many of for many of them are very young. I'm reading young women. When the war was over they were you know in the early mid twenties. They had their whole lives ahead of them. And the had nothing they had no families no homes no nationalities and this. Was you know they needed to start over. And many of them felt great. Judy to Have children to repopulate the jewish people to try to raise families in happy healthy environments. And so for all these reasons. Both both heartbreaking as you say and for i believe coping coping as well these stories seats silence for a long. Take me to the warsaw ghetto. And what it would have looked like seventy eight years ago today. The warsaw ghetto was the largest ghetto in poland. Certainly at its height it had almost a half a million jews in a very small physical area. It was crowded there. Several families living in one room. People were starving. There was very little food and people suffered from illness lice. And you know everyone felt tremendous fear. They knew that their their life is at risk at any second. They felt fully occupied physically and mentally. Who in that context in in those awful conditions who made up the resistance because the resistance as you documented than the book Was made up of people with a range of political ideologies. But most interesting to me. Was that the resistance. What what we think of as those who fought in the warsaw ghetto uprising were primarily youth. They were young. Jews old anywhere from about sixteen to twenty five And they became these underground grill militias really because they had been they'd been groups before the war. These were youth movements almost like the scouts and they had been very dedicated to these youth movements in the nineteen thirties before the war and it was these youth movements which promoted it was their value system their spiritual intellectual social training ground. It's easiest movements that became the fighting units in the warsaw ghetto uprising described those fighting units. And what those young people were able to do again in the in the midst of an awful situation and with a worse situation perhaps even looming so these fighting units were comprised There it said there were about seven hundred and fifty. Young jews who participated. I should say about a hundred and seventy five one. Hundred eighty were women. The units were small groups Ten twenty people usually based on their youth movement affiliation. Whatever their politics were before the war and these units had acquired weapons over the past few months they had Both from was often female careers. Who left the ghetto and help arm the underground's smuggling in explosives dynamite materials to make molotov cocktails as well as ammunition and they also the the the units had they had strategy. They were there were meetings. There was a head of the of the of the uprising of the of the koby. They called it the jewish fighting organization and they strategize the best way to to attack the nazis. How did they do this. I mean what was the scale of the deception that they were able to pull off you talk about it. I mean people moving across lines with fake papers and as you say smuggling in weapons. How are they able to pull this off. You mean the smuggling in particular. Yeah so this was done so this was frequently done by winning because women. It was easier for women to pass. It was easier for women. Jewish women to appear to be christian women and so that they were able to leave the ghetto. If ju together they would be killed. Jews weren't allowed to leave but but jewish women for for for various reasons which all come back to you. Were better able to disguise themselves as christian woman so they would slip in and out of ghettos. Sometimes climbing over walls sometimes going through basements slipping through gates going over rooftops sometimes entering and exiting with a workgroup a forced labor group. They would kind of the head and enter an or exit. The ghetto gates with this group. Sometimes they just paid off the guards and then when one woman was on the outside she was better able to pretend to be christian because first of all women were not circumcised. So they didn't have a physical marker of jewishness on their body. Women in the nineteen thirties had been educated and while many families education with mandatory in poland but many jewish families had sent their sons to jewish schools for for for financial reasons. They sent their daughters to polish public schools. In in these public schools girls learnt catholic mannerisms habits even prayers and most important they learnt to speak. They talk about this all the time. Polish like a poll without the creaky. Yiddish accent and so women women were able to perform they call this. This was their life and death. Performance a constant acting job where they they pretended to be christian and as such went to meet with weapons dealers went to meet with contacts from the polish resistance and the countless stories they found of them putting weapons into marmalade jars Sacks of potatoes teddybears fashionable handbags that they would also purchase or borough were just taping them to their torsos. Nineteen ninety-five a college student disappeared on a trip across the usa. Portia missing right away but they went. Take it so. His mother started investigating the case file. I started going through and saw people. That wasn't interviewed. I joined this mother. Search for justice or you recording us. I am someone knows something season. Six available now throughout the nineteen eighties. Strange phenomenon was sweeping north america. They were in a panic and like people in a panic. Allegations of underground satanic cults torturing and terrorizing children. The thing is there were no satanic cults preying on children and nearly thirty years later the people touched by it. All are still picking up. The pieces doesn't work of fiction. This is a work of history satanic panic available now. Where did they find the strength to fight the nazis given what they were facing in the ghetto. That is a great question and thought about this. A lot and i think it comes from a few different factors at for one. I really think these youth movements that i mentioned before that they were part of before the war. These were very dedicated to these movements and these movements trained them to feel pride in their people and in their heritage and they train them to act they train them to collaborate to work together and i think their their training was to really feel collective pride and to be able to fight for that and to work together to fight for that i think is a huge part of it also they. They were furious. You know they were when you read the diaries and memoirs written in the woman from by these women the ones written during the war. They're they're not. They're not sad they are fe- you worry. They are passionate and filled with grief and filled with anger. And these women really. I got the impression it was. They must they they were. They were filled with a need to go fight for justice and to fight for liberty. Tell me about some of these women. Zivie veteran who she is available back in was a leader of the youth movements even before the war And so she became almost naturally a leader in the warsaw ghetto of the jewish youth. She actually was one of the women right about who in nineteen thirty nine had escaped from nazi occupied poland and she came back she smuggled herself back into nazi warsaw because she felt so responsible to her people. She became a leader in the warsaw ghetto. She added with german polish. Jewish councils and governments she helped get young jews out of slave labor camps. She you know she. She had very jewish features. But she didn't matter she would especially in the earlier slip out of the ghetto. Help people try to find rescue routes. She became a leader in the planning of the warsaw ghetto uprising. She fought into ghetto. Uprisings there is a small uprising in january forty-three followed by what we commemorate today. In april nineteen forty three. She was had a gun and she was a guerilla fighter. She then fought in the polish resistance. The warsaw uprising in one thousand nine forty four as well And after the war after sorry after the ghetto was raised she had to go into hiding. She she again. she'd looked. She had very jewish looking feature she. She couldn't pass and from her spot in hiding. She helped administer rescue organizations. That helped over ten thousand jews in hiding in warsaw managed to get out of the ghetto. She got out of the ghetto through canals. She helped lead a group of rebels. A group of fighters out through canal sewer Canals that were. She was neck deep in sewage water and they have to try to find a manhole where a rescue truck was gonna come pick them up and they ended up staying under there for well over twenty four hours forty eight hours and the fighting that she was involved in. I mean between the resistance. And the nazis was really intense. I mean th this was 'cause he's coming in essentially to destroy the ghetto. These were coming to destroy the ghetto and to kill all the jews. This was actually a bird. Was supposed to be a birthday gift for hitler that finally the warsaw ghetto would be completely raised. All the jews would be destroyed. And you know it's hard to always get exact numbers in this kind of in this round. But appears about two thousand. Nazi soldiers were sent in just on that on that beginning liquidation it with tanks and she said she described it looks like a whole country was going to war to come kill off the remaining jews in the get it. Do they expect. The nazis expected to be any hint of resistance. Let alone the resistance that you document in this book. I do not believe that they expected any hint of resistance Especially at this stage of the war where jews were so starved and so week And you know there are many women right about how shocked they were. That women were fighting one woman. Masha few she went to the to the roof of the building. Their strategy was to fight from the rooftops. This was the jewish guerrilla strategy. And her she. She talks about how her her fingers were shaking. She was so excited and nervous and she could barely light the match to light the explosive and she did it and she's flinging it from the roof and what she hears our did nazis yelling. Whoa in how calm. How come a a minister fighting. That's what shocked them. I think they were taken by surprise. Tell me about little wanda with the braids. This is another Woman who was part of the resistance. Little wanda was the braves was Her name was negotia title bomb and she was from the communist youth movement that was her political leaning and she hurt her back. Dick and this is before the worst ghetto uprising was too. she was in her twenties. She actually had history degree for more university but she dressed up as a sixteen year old polish peasant girl. She braided her hair and she put a kerchief in inner. Heron she she. She looked like a peasant girl from the countryside and she used this disguise to access nazi homes and offices and would then him so for instance in in one story she goes to shaw. Which was the nazi headquarters in warsaw dressed like a polish peasant girl and says she she needs to speak to a certain guard about a personal madder and the assumption is that she's pregnant and he he's gotten her pregnant and so the the the guards at the stop let her in and show her the way and then she walks into the office pulls out a gun and shoots the zappa man in the head and then puts the gun back in her her pocket and and walks right out in sort of meekly waves goodbye to the guards at the door. She was on every gestapo most wanted list. And she was dick named her little wanda with the braves. What eventually happened to her. She was caught on in forty three and killed but it has an incredible legacy in terms of what she was able to do. I mean and that's just one of her stories. She did this numerous occasions. She actually ran a military a training group for women in the worse ghetto for the uprising training. Them on how to use weapons she. She was involved in so many so many efforts. What does it mean for you to discover this history. You mentioned at the very beginning of our conversation that your grandmother survived An and survived. You write about this in the book at the end of the book survived. siberian gulags. And you say that she lived while never quite surviving. Tell me about what this this story meant to you personally. Well i mean as as i said in the beginning of our of our interview of you know this. This started with me looking at generational transmission of trauma And and how trauma was passed through generations. But i think this project made me also think about how heroism is passed through generations. How strength is passed through generations You know i've i've really rethought my own personal holocaust narrative and also the general holocaust narrative. I now see it as a story of constant resistance and resilience and struggle and and fight. And i truly feel proud to come from this legacy. What was your personal narrative. I mean you say in the book that you spent a lot of time trying to get as far away as possible from the holocaust. Yes what did you mean by that. Well i think. As as i was saying i felt that the the trauma of the holocaust had passed through my family I was an extremely anxious person And in my own family. Various anxieties even hoarding disorder and mental health issues. That i felt had had come from living through really traumatic experiences had had passed themselves through through the generations in my family and so how does doing a book like this and doing this research and meeting the descendants of some of these resistance members. How does that change that narrative for you again. I was refocused the narrative. I think there is for myself. There is a lot of focus on the trauma or on the difficulties that pass through the generations. But this is also made me. Think about the as. I said the strength that has passed through generations and i just thought about it in a in a in a more perhaps hopeful light. Can you imagine being one of those young women sixteen years old in that situation. That's all i imagined. Day doing the research. What would i do. Could i ever have done this ever have done with a did i don't think so. It's a remarkable story. I mean dude. Do the descendants of those resistance fighters. Do they understand what what's there Relatives were involved. And you go to israel and you speak with with with The family of one of those resistance members do they do. They have a full appreciation of what they were up to. So i met about twenty different families of course of women who crew survive in israel as well as in canada and the us and some of them did know quite a bit about their mothers or grandmothers and some of them knew nothing. They really knew very little about what their own mothers had done in the war As i was saying earlier many of these women didn't tell their stories in particular to their children so in some of the families. I am sending them information I'm sending even publications that their their mother wrote in the forties fifties I've been sending it to families. They did not know it is a fascinating story. I learned a lot In reading this book judy. It's a pleasure to talk to you. Thank you very much. Thank you so much for having me. Judy battalion is a writer for montreal. Who now lives. In new york city her new book is the light of days. The untold story of women resistance fighters in hitler's ghettos for more. Cbc podcasts go to cbc dot ca slash podcasts.
The Warsaw Ghetto - A Tale of Nazi Resistance
"Following the Nazi Blitzkrieg invasion of Poland on September first nineteen thirty nine Warsaw suffered heavy air attacks and artillery bombardment. At one point five million German troops entered entered Poland many of them making it quickly to the Polish capital city within weeks German civilian occupation authorities required Warsaw's Jewish population to identify themselves goes by wearing white armbands with the Blue Star of David. The German authorities closed Jewish schools confiscated Jewish owned property and conscripted Jewish men into forced labor and dissolve prewar Jewish organizations in October Twelfth Nineteen forty the Germans decreed the establishment of a ghetto in Warsaw the decree required all Jewish residents of Warsaw to move into a designated area which German authorities sealed off from the rest of the city in November and life quickly became hell for those inside. The ghetto was enclosed goes by wall. It was over ten feet high topped with barbed wire closely guarded to prevent movement between the ghetto and the rest of war saw the population of the ghetto. Increased by. Jews compelled L. D. relocate to the ghetto from nearby towns was estimated to be over four hundred thousand juice German authorities fourth ghetto resins to live in an area of one point three square miles with an average of seven point two people per room and then in the summer of nineteen forty two life got even worse ghetto residents began to be taken out of the ghetto so in mass and transported to Treblinka death camp shortly after that those who remain fought back and saves the largest Jewish uprising against the Nazis in in the Nazi occupied territories during World War Two. They didn't beat the Nazis but they inspired others to fight and some even survived to tell their tales and we share some of those tales. Today we also go over the history of anti-semitism in Europe that led to a history of ghettos and how all of that led to the Nazi ideological justification nation of so much Evil Evil Shit that they did to the Jewish people in World War Two lot of learning ahead on an important. How can we meet sex? Treat one another. How can we meet sex not true one other like that ever again? Addition of time suck. This is Michael McDonald. And you're listening to time. I am so happy holidays. Meets Acts Cloudy. Cloudy cleared up that last little phrasing before we jumped into this that would have set a very different tone if after all settle that. I'm like yes. Let's let's learn from all that let's learn how to apply you know all the great treatment of people to our how we you know liver in our world today out of a very different show now no this is bad stuff that we're going over today. Happy Hanukkah happy. Whatever else you may be celebrating may never lose Safina bless you with with amazement? 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Let's address the word ghetto so it's not just a word that Elvis sang a pretty song about on cold in Chicago. Moan and poor. Little baby child is bone in gear to who you think ooh that does that. What does it mean? We talk about the Warsaw ghetto. Oh well the word carries a great deal of baggage with it as it should history super super terrible according to my dictionary. Ghetto is a part of the city especially a slum area occupied by cannoli group or groups typically as a result of social legal or economic pressure gets living visual reminders of racial oppression discrimination and segregation agregation here in the US specifically with the African American community African Americans have been employing the term ghetto to refer to their own residential segregation certain cities. He's as early as one thousand nine tenths when several American cities were passing zoning ordinances prohibiting black citizens from living on blocks with the majority of the residents were whites so why was the term used to describe area of a European city where there were no. Obviously African Americans will because the origins of the ghetto that a term or European Jordan's way back for the nineteen twenties. They go way back before American slavery they go back before Christopher Columbus landed in the Americas and treated indigenous people like dogs because he was an arrogant. Solis fuck face and a product of his time. I know I know. The concept of the ghetto goes back to thirteenth century. Europe ghettos came out of European separation laws dating back to the twelve hundreds when Jews were persecuted by an aggressively intolerant Catholic Church. And we're only allowed to live in a sign quarters quarters that always. We seem to be located in the shittiest town or should he area just outside of town and the term originally applied to Jewish race's racial segregation linguists think the actual term ghetto probably comes from Italy in the sixteenth century the Venetian Jewish ghetto of radio was a cut Asia. Joe I got a hand. Say things that Kinda they izzo was established in March. Two Thousand Nine Hundred Fifteen sixteen and get. It was probably derived from another Italian word for or ghetto meaning settlement outside. The city's walls and forcing Jewish people to live amongst each other would soon tremendously backfire on the Italians and the Vatican and all of Europe and then eventually all of the world for gave Jewish people hundreds of years to plan and scheme and evolve into the aluminum nutty wakeup shapal. Let me walk you through. It obviously happened. Who is forced to Jewish people to live together the leaders of Europe and who are the leaders of Europe beholden to the pope the king of Rome and who was the Pope Beholden to Satan? Yes of course hiding in plain sight who is Satan beholden to the Lizard. luminosity Avi wake up and smell the chem trails and who to the lizards answer to choose clearly. The Jewish people segregated themselves so they could properly plan and scheme to enslave the world gentiles and not be overheard J. K.. Take as someone she came Sadly if you listen to podcasts length of time you know that there are people in this plant who can hear something that fucking crazy and not react with amusement or horror but was was confident agreement. Oh yeah episode since the nineties absolutely unique. Gosh Dang okay so now you know the history of the ghetto. The Warsaw ghetto wasn't established by the Nazis until after they invaded Poland but the concept of the European Jewish ghetto had already existed for centuries. We'll talk about it a bit. More layer later and why were the Jewish people initially forced to live in separate neighborhoods will because Christians were sick of having their babies sacrifice to Satan by Jewish people who they knew were behind because they had devil horns sprouting from their skulls and obviously that is not true. Either I took that from Jewish websites article titled Ten Antisemitic Myths. When I joke knievel Europeans did think that the Jews had devil horns and that they actually did sacrifice Christian babies incredibly? There are still people who think that today. Now let's examine the real reason. European Jews were forced to live in segregated neighborhoods. The real reason of course good old-fashioned Anti Semitism let's explore its origins. The term anti-semitism wasn't coined until eighteen. Seventy nine by the German agitator. Ville Hilmar to designate the Anti Jewish campaigns underway in central Europe at the time Mar was for lack of a better term. A real shithead risk doodoo. Ding Dong Marotta pamphlet eighteen seventy nine titled the way to victory of Judaism over Germany. And he wasn't talking about this victory as if it were a good thing. It was a warning not celebration induced. The introduced the idea that Germans and Jews were locked in a longstanding conflict the Orange and origins of which he attributed to race and he felt the Jews. Were winning little bit more about Mar.. homeboy been married five different times wants to Jewish woman. Another time to woman whose father was Jewish and he had grown increasingly embittered over his life towards women in the world in general with the dissolution of marriage and end of his life he actually did finally renounce his earlier antisemitic ways. Arguing that social upheaval in Germany had not been the result of disharmony mini between the Jews and the gentiles but rather it was due to the industrial revolution and the conflict between various German political movement. So what's Oh sorry. The Fan flames racism. EVERYBODY TURNS OUT IT ALL WRONG O.. J. K. I'll show myself out by the time changes ways. The antisemitic damage. Had of course already been done the word anti-semitism Anti Semitism by the way is a bit of a misnomer. It implies discrimination against all Semites and and little known fact Jews are not the only Semites Arabs. Several other groups are also considered Semites a semi. It is a member of any of the peoples who speak or spoke a Semitic the Glenn guage including in particular the Jews and Arabs but because of such consistent Jewish specific racism common usage of the term now refers only only two Jewish people we think of now is anti-semitism had existed long before Vilmar coin net hateful term it existed to some degree ever since the Jews. I left Palestine over two thousand years ago. The Jewish people have been the religious minority and whatever lands. They've existed in for almost entire very long history. A third words century BC Egyptian. Ptolemaic priests remember the PTOLEMIES. Cleopatra Sucks so much incest and that family tree in says is is almost I think about what I think about compassion because that anyway this addiction priests men manifesto wrote about the Jewish people and not in glowing terms when he wrote history of Egypt in Greek over two hundred years before the birth of Christ in this book Manteaux turn the story of Moses Exodus from Egypt gypped upside down biblically. It was written about as an act of liberation of the Jewish people by their God from Egyptian bondage. In Manitoba's history. The excess was was written about as an expulsion of the Jews from Egypt. Like the Egyptians. Kick them the fuck out at the behest of the Egyptian gods because their country had to be purified of uncleaned. People Mantha wrote that when you took measures to expel the Jews. The Jews organize themselves around a priest Moses and wrote it when they then then started a regime of terror in which the Egyptian population became the victim of brutal violence the Jews displayed large scale sack religious behavior by killing roasting and eating the Egyptian gods. What the eight to God's? How's that possible? All the Jewish people actually eat meat. That meat was considered to come from sacred animals that were representatives of Egyptian guts and this pissed pissed off a feral. Nobody likes their gods to be eaten in the Faroe expelled him and expelled. Jewish people then formed their own rogue state in and around Jerusalem where they build you know their their first big temple so gypped not big fans of the Jews and again why was that because he refused to worship the same gods because living their lives and following their cultural troll rules put them at odds with the macro culture their micro culture was surrounded by and this theme of their minority culture being at odds with majority culture around them will continue right on up through the Warsaw ghetto. In the hellenistic age of the ancient Greco Romans Jews refuse to acknowledge the gods worshipped by other other peoples of southern Europe and the Middle East and they pissed off a bunch more people this time bunch pagans particularly in first century BC through the first century see unlike the polytheistic pagan religions of that of that day which acknowledged multiple guys. Judaism is and has always been monotheistic right just once just once Guy Daddy worship within this one God and now one of the gods of the ancient Greeks for example was viewed by the Greeks sacrilegious also. The Jews refers refused to worship ancient Greek and Roman emperors As gods and that was not just as being sacrilegious but as being treasonous was a sign of disloyalty after pissing off the Egyptians and then pissing off the Greeks leaks numerous other ancient cultures for not prioritizing those cultures gods and laws and rulers the Jews then pissed off the Romans the writings of the first in such a second century Sri Ce Roman senator and historian tacitus illustrate. How many Romans view or how Romans many got Dane? How many Romans viewed food the juice tacitus wrote there were concerned that the Jews were out breeding quote unquote real Romans that they practice sack religious rituals? They were seen as being disproportionately wealthy so they must be doing something shady to recruit all those riches they were cliquish and perverse. What were they hiding? Tacitus it is painted them as perpetual corruptors luring people away from their proper Roman religion. Their families their patriotic duty on purpose as those Jews had a singular devotion to destroy join all civilizations but their own then. The Christians came along and as any student of European history knows. The Christians. Haven't always been the Jews because fans. It's not the best of friends despite Christianity springing directly from Judaism despite Jesus of Nazareth and disciples being practicing Jews. And it's by Christianity's Hannity's roots and the juice teaching of Monotheism Judaism and Christianity became rival soon after Jesus was allegedly crucified by pontius pilot. WHO executed him? According to Contemporary Roman practice the Christian churches and grew in power in Europe never forgave the Jews for the killing of their Messiah. The little son of God. Despite the fact it was actually the Romans who ordered the Jewish leaders to execute Jesus and then the Romans crush the Jews and the Holy Land and the Christians turned against them even further in sixty six Xie. The Jewish people revolted against the Romans. And what is now known as the first Jewish Roman war then in seventy see the Romans recaptured Jerusalem destroyed. The city city destroyed the Jewish temple. The heart of Judaism. This template stood for almost five hundred years built on the ground of where Solomon's Temple the first Jewish temple had stood from around one thousand NBC until it was destroyed by the Babylonians in five eighty six busy and this devastating defeat was interpreted by Jews and Christians alike as a sign of divine punishment. God had left the juice. And now with the Jews no longer possessing any ruling power the early Christian Gospels diminished Roman responsibility. Oldie in Jesus's death. Why probably because the Romans ruthless they were in charge and it would have been detrimental to the health of early Christian writers to talk about Shit about the romance? It's the gospels expressed Jewish culpability in the death of Jesus in Matthew Twenty seven twenty five the King James version stating his blood. Be On us and on our children the new living translation phrasing as we will take responsibility for his death. We and our children by the Jews were officially depicted. Now is the killers of the son of God and this depiction would lead to a lot of Jewish death in the coming centuries right we and our children right forever. They're the killers of the son of God now in many Christians is Christians now claim to be the new Israel both in flesh and spirits. Many early church fathers taught that God no longer watched over the Jews. Their historical the purpose was to prepare for the arrival of Godson who they then killed. God was no longer with them. According to this view Judaism their religion had served. Its purpose right Tom to retire. It reaches logical conclusions. Why was still around now? God came back. The prophet returned to hold onto Jewish beliefs. Node now was just being stubbornly defiant and there was also against God's wishes when you go against God's wishes who you now serving well Satan right. That was the view as Christianity spread throughout the first couple of centuries ce the Christians began to see the Jews more and more than alien immoral people who because of their rejection of Christ and his church were condemned to perpetual migration. A belief best illustrated raided the legend of the wandering Jew wandering juice mystical immortal man whose legend began to spread in Europe in the thirteenth century. Right the original legend concerned did you. Who taunted onto Jesus on the way to the crucifixion and then doomed to walk the earth until the second coming in this bit of folklore further links? The Jews to the murder of the Christian Messiah. They're being punished by God. That's why the Germany now. That's why they're in Poland. In France etc got kicked out of their homeland. You know there are punished. Doomed to roam for their unforgivable sin. You know when you get blamed for killing another religions. God you tend to end up as public enemy number one. When the Christian Church then became dominant throughout the Roman Empire it's leaders inspired various areas? Laws passed by Roman emperors designed to segregate Jews and curtailed or freedoms so they couldn't threaten Christian religious domination right. This mentality of you've already killed Christ we're not gonNA let them kill our entire religion. Do this worldview. Jews were increasingly forced to the margins of European society from Saint Augustine in the fourth century to Martin Luther in the sixteenth century. Some of the most eloquent and persuasive Christian theologians criticized the Jews for being rebels against God like I said earlier. There were describes companions of the devil rays vipers drink and Christian blood murdering Christian babies. These depictions have literally never entirely got away. Here's a little example of that too. Actually two thousand fifteen and Islamic preacher on the temple. Mount Jerusalem told his congregants at the Nazis burned the Jews of Europe during the Holocaust cost because they had been kidnapping children to use their blood in Passover bread. He claimed that Jews Worship Satan plotted the nine eleven attacks controlled the freemasons every go with that again sacrifice their wives and children to the devil in secret ceremonies and not one of his congregants stood up and said God download talking about you crazy. Fuck gear wait until care and all of that played out eager entire Shakeout here going GET JERSEY. Get the fuck out. It's none of that just this past August. Florida Christian pastor had this to say about Jewish comic. Sarah Silverman. You know these Jewish false prophets anti-christian anti-god anti-god they're willing to put Jesus death again. You heard this comedian Sarah Silverman. Listen she is a witch. She is a Jabil. She is a God hating horror or of Zionism. I hope that God breaks her teeth out and she dies. She's a wicked person. And she was like the perfect representation of religious Judaism she is Satan discover and she is there to take the world and make them laugh and then disc. Jesus try to take away that respect from Jesus Holy Shit listen to that L. language. That's from two thousand nineteen this year. She is the perfect representation of religious Judaism. She's Satan scarver right. None of that Dude Shitty. The congregation walked out either to this day juice. Still being linked with the Christian devil still being maligned as being evil. Why because they refused to let go of their culture and religion and just say all right all right? All right you win I give up okay. Jesus God author surrounded by Muslims. You know give up all right are you. In I give up. Bahama knows the truth Praise Allah whatever you want much Europe during the Middle Ages religious based hatred of the Jews and ignorance base fear of the Jews led them to being denied citizenship in the basic took rights afforded other citizens. They were banned from holding posts in government and military excluded from membership in guilds and a wide variety of professions. Christians were strongly forbidden and much of Europe from intermingling. The Jews like to wrongly forbidden one. Here's an example of that. One unnamed Christian Deacon who taking Hebrew lessons with an Oxford a Jew in the early thirteenth century fell so in love with his tutors daughter that he had himself circumcised and converted to Judaism in order to marry her for which on April Seventeenth twelve twenty. Two right in England. He was found guilty of apostasy and burnt at the fucking stake at Omni. Abby unique burned alive because he fell in love with the girl gotta hope they at least fucked one time. I was so good I was so so good to be fair. Some places did offer Jewish people tolerance and acceptance even places where Jews were persecuted also showed tolerance acceptance at various points in their timelines but overall most of Europe sucks serious Jews for most of you know written history. We'll go over a few example because none of this excuses. What the Nazis did when it comes to Jews? I think understanding where that hatred and dehumanisation comes from is so important. Xenophobic feelings still exist all over the world today. We fear what we don't understand and we're afraid just like any other animal were more prone to lash shout so let's keeping curious as learning that's fear only what is actually scary shadow people not that which we simply just don't understand. Let's be intolerant. aww intolerance so that she doesn't happen in ten ninety sixty eight nights of the first crusade unleashed a wave of anti-semitic violence in France and the holy Roman Empire including massacres massacres in Germany. Also in France unfounded accusations of ritual murder host and of host desecration and of blood libel allegations of Jews Jews sacrificing a Christian children pass over to obtain their blood for unleavened bread that appeared in the Twelfth Century Right Twelfth Century Satanic Panic. GotTa she's been around for so long. All unfounded nineteen thirties. The same blood libel this false allegation of Jews murdering a Christian children and using their blood for ritual you'll purposes such as baking into Passover. Bread will become part of Nazi propaganda. Same Old story just being recycled now. fucking weird is that by the way. A strange ludicrous belief baby blood. Being Baked into bread. I try not to just say just kind of carte blanche like dude did your idiot but but if you actually believe that Jews kidnap and kill Christian babies and then baked their blood into Passover bread is part of some dark ritual. Well then Dude Dude. You're an idiot. Like I'm sure. Nazi occultist Heinrich Himmler was all over that slanderous folklore. I believe that capital of the bread. It involves don't it's Ju- Brad unless you like to eat the little German Christian babies. Yeah Yeah it is common knowledge that this is not putting the bread Ed. It's what keeps it ever homes from spout and sort of the heads just asked. My personal psychic is never wrong Mottley mentally stable Nazi coat with college Availa Gate cars. Did you tell them about the blood. You gave his kids away for the bread but the pleasure of the bread butter. The bread mold people people taught him put the bus birth to clear giants. I read it in a matter. `tatoes potatoes potatoes potatoes potatoes. Two heads in the sons all. Thank you call. You have such a wonderful mind. You've you've really does lay things out in such a sense of what I said makes more sense by the way. If you listen to last week's episode is probably Pretty Pretty Jarring if he if he didn't still gonNA be weird but it makes a little more sense as European commerce grew from new and expanded trade routes in the Twelfth and thirteenth centuries some Jews became prominent and trade banking and money lending which was some of the few professions they were allowed to have because of Christian usury laws quick note a medieval usury. Laws is huge negative stereotype. The Nazis exploited comes directly from these laws by the Jewish. People were prohibited from almost every job. Then some Jews began to occupy hi an economic niches money lenders in the Middle Ages because in Christian dominated medieval Europe Jewish folk were allowed to take interest on loans since the Catholic Church had condemned usery for Christians used by the way defined lenny lending money with interest attached. You know like every lender does today like every bank Credit Card Company in Medieval Times. The church thought this was sinful and it does have biblical basis right exodus. Twenty to twenty five. If you lend money to any of my people with you who's poor you shall not be like a money lender to him and you shall not exact interest from him or Ezekiel eighteen thirteen lens at interests and takes profit. Show he then live he shall l. not live he has done all these abominations he shall surely die. His blood shall be upon himself and the Jewish talmud forbids taking her giving interest to your brother. Jewish rabbis interpret this as meaning a fellow Jew The medieval rabbinical attitude towards lending money with interest gentiles allowed so some Jewish people became court factors or Roy lenders other types of bankers lending money to gentiles and eventually in many places to other Jews as well and this is where that stereotype of the Jews have. All the money comes from. It's crazy but he will choose one allowed to do much of anything else. Other than lend money in some places they could only be lenders or Peddlers Aka merchants merchants. So that's what he had to pay the fucking bills and then some of them got really good at it. The Rotschild family being the most famous medieval example and then some Christians got mad. It's Jus for selling selling at one of the few professions. Were allowed to participate in pretty ironic super illogical. If you want to learn more about this specifically I broke down the history of the Rothschild families rise to banking power in the secret suck secret psych episodes twenty three and twenty four. If you don't listen to those I get it. I just know that Jewish economic success when it did occur tended to arouse the envy of non Jewish people this economic resentment combined with traditional religious Prejudice prompted the forced expulsion of Jews from several countries and regions including England in twelve ninety France and the fourteenth century Germany and the thirteen. I'm fifty s Portugal in fourteen ninety six province in fifteen twelve the papal states in fifteen sixty nine and these could not catch a break. Ever since it's a romantic the holy land from him in the Ottomans and the Christians would control the Holy Land after that they would just be the odd man out wherever the fuck they would go being different. That has been the real crime of the the Jewish people not saying goodbye to their culture worshipping Zeus or Jupiter or Jesus or a law Allah or whatever God the majority of the people around them worshipped. That has been there only consisting in crime. And we're headed to Poland with all of this promise. Intensifying persecution of the Jews. In Spain culminated in fourteen ninety two same. Your Columbus sailed on behalf for Spain to the Americas in the fourth expulsion of that country's large and long established Jewish population only Jews had convert who had converted to Christianity were allowed allowed to remain and those suspected of continuing to secretly practised Judaism face persecution in the Spanish inquisition. Nobody expects the Spanish inquisition. Asian sorry I missed that Monty Python reference last week as a result of these mass expulsions the centers of Jewish life shifted in Europe from Western Europe and Germany to Turkey Russia. Show and home of Warsaw Poland and while many Jews found new homes the same old. Stereotypes followed them in the sixteenth century. The idea the the Jews were evil persisted during the Protestant reformation. Although Martin Luther expressed positive feelings about Jews early in his life relied on Jewish scholars for his translation of the Hebrew Scriptures Berkshire's into German. He also became furious. which us over the rejection? Of Jesus like fucking here we go again same old tired story. You won't believe in my invisible friends on our despise is you think you're evil and maybe even kill you my I should ever go away Martin wrote we are at fault for not slain them. Jesus rather we allow them to live freely in our midst. Despite their murder cursing blasphemy in line and defaming I despite their murder talking about the blood libel folklore again here or crucifixion. Probably probably both Gosh motherfucking. Goddamn Dang I would quote that King James Version Luke. Twenty three thirty four right father forgive them for they know not what they do you. But they've fucking no they knew deep down. I think we almost always know we're doing something really really shitty the Nazi regime of course would echo these racists sediments. It's the end of the Middle Ages. Brought little change and Jews position in Europe the Catholic reformation renewed Anti Jewish legislation reinforced. The system of ghetto is segregation Roman Catholic countries. European Jews were also subject to the occasional massacre before the Nazis came along such as those that occurred during wars between eastern Orthodox Ukrainians Roman Catholic poles in the mid seventeenth century which rivaled previous massacres of Jews. In the Middle Ages Christian crusaders massacred over eight hundred Jews in Germany when they refused to be baptized. I've ties in ten ninety six or lots of examples like that. On Easter thirteen eighty nine. A two-day assault was mounted against the Jewish community in Prague. The prog pogrom that led torture and deaths of an estimated nine hundred youths. And why did this happen. Because a couple of Jews were accused of mocking a priest as he brought Sacramento Easter Mass. Clearly clearly considerable tension already existed between Jews and Christians before the incidents clearly Christians is looking for an excuse to fuck up a bunch of Jewish people now to be for Christians in the Middle East prior to the seventh century see there are also records of Jewish rulers massacring. Christians is now like Christians are inherently murders and Jews are inherently victims. Not at all in five sixteen ce a Jewish warlord and Yemen named Yousef Asare killed roughly twenty thousand Christians for not renouncing Christ so it has gone the other away important to point out just not as consistently as for as long of a time Y While I'm speculating here by a pretty strong opinions. I thought a lot about. I think it's because Christians ruled Europe right had the Jewish culture consistently been the much larger and more dominant culture. Could it have gone the other way. Yeah I think so seems to be Eh to be the way for a lot of human history right. The Romans persecuted Christians until the Romans became Christian and then they persecuted non Christians and the Romans weren't always big fans of the Jews news either really. If the belief system of a minority group religious political otherwise is an opposition in some way to the belief system of the cultural majority group historically massacres ensue. You got it in a variety of directions. As far as religions are concerned a random persecutions of Jews in western Europe continued until the late Eighteenth Century when the enlightenment treatment encouraged different though. Not that much better thought about Judaism. Although the major enlightenment figures champion the light of reason and debunking what they regarded as the superstitions precisions of Christian belief they're thinking did not lead to any real greater or lasting acceptance of Jewish people instead of holding Jews responsible for the crucifixion. Enlightenment thinkers flip the script and blame them for the advent of Christianity and for the injustices and cruelty committed by followers of all the major monotheistic Abraham religions ridiculous. It went from. How could you kill Jesus and then flipped over to? How could you create the foundation for the religion of Jesus to lead to someone's death right? These couldn't catch a break. No wonder they started the luminosity. Until the French Revolution. Seventeen eighty-nine the status of Jews in Europe remained. Pretty we fucked. They had few civil rights were treated as outsiders. Even at their families had lived in the city or country for hundreds of years and then French Jews were the first to be given rights like voting and owning property and seventeen ninety-one Jews receive legal equality from the French Revolutionary Parliament which meant full citizenship to be fair. Although the French were still hoping that they convert to Christianity religion the majority of France practice. Little bit of a come on guys. We're nice to you so it's not gonna off with the juice GA Ga.. Tom Christian stubborn fuckers. Despite France granting citizenship the rest of Europe not ready to be as tolerant western and central European states would eventually catch catch up to French tolerance during the nineteenth century but no way was emancipation coming to the Jews in imperial Russia were a massive amount of European Jewish people. Lift the czar's government forced us to settle only in a certain area of Russia the so called Pale or district of settlement here and in the areas Russia had taken over after if the division of Poland most Jews lived in great poverty crammed into towns often making up the majority than habitants things a little better than nineteenth century full emancipation of Jews throughout Germany came with the unification of Germany in eighteen. Seventeen eighteen seventy one How sad really the things will get a bit better only get so much worse? The the end of the nineteenth century saw the rise of various forms of European nationalism. Like we know we're the best. You're the worst all that we talked about last week suck man anti-semitism shift from religious. It just issue now to an ethnic one tons of pseudoscientific theories theories we talked about last week asserted that the Jews and other races were inferior to the so-called Aaron you know quote would unquote race. Jews turned into scapegoats for any existing social or political grievances. The smallest ethnic groups have always made for the easiest targets anti-semitism Anti Semitism now became a powerful political tool in the eighteen nineties. Carl Lugar became the mayor of Vienna a city of diverse culture many Jews by running on antisemitic campaigns. This cars political campaigns are seen by many historians as providing Hitler with the blueprint for how to rise to power by rallying a large group of people against against the juice Lugar describe Vienna as a big Jerusalem and the Jews. God murderers keep eating that fucking drum. Sadly sadly political campaigns built on scapegoating minority group continued to this day all around the world in both Germany and Austria in the late nineteenth century. Antisemitism became an organized movement with his own political parties and these parties were successful because of the enormous European tradition long-standing tradition of blaming bad shit on the juice the twentieth century brought more of the same an anti Semitic hatred would be elevated to a nearly You know nearly a complete extermination level with the Holocaust Shit really hit the fan and for the Western world after World War One specifically politically economically. See The treaty oversight and German Economic Collapse. See the Great Depression. It was the perfect time. Time to double down on pinning blame rights on the same old suspect now that I've given a little overview of the long long long history of the European Jewish persecution persecution. Let's jump to the nineteen thirties holocaust. When the Nazis playoff a centuries of Jewish mistrust take hatred of the Jews to genocidal levels? Let's talk for second about the the chief hate wizard. The Grand Dragon Nazi Shit Lord himself the man who single handedly ruined both a moustache style and method of saluting forever Adolf Adolf Hitler. Hitler was born in Austria in eighteen. Eighty nine he developed his political ideas in Vienna the city with a large Jewish community where he lived from nineteen o seven to nineteen thirteen. Thirteen where he heard. Local speak highly of the great Austrian Anti Semite Crawl Lugar in the first two decades of the twentieth century. Austrian Jews in cities like Vienna. Aw were just starting to become moderately wealthy and well respected. People like future sucks subject Sigmund Freud who thrive in psychiatry practice in Vienna. And of course this new social and financial prominence brought some kickback because of historical anti-semitism. If you were not Jewish and you weren't doing too well there were plenty of public places where you can be openly openly anti-semitic and not have anyone tell you to shut the fuck up places where he could really help stir up the same feelings and others. During Hillary time in Vienna Vienna had another mayor who super anti Jewish and open hatred of Jews was becoming more and more common in the city during the first World War. Hiller was a soldier in the German army at the end of the war he and many other German soldiers like him could not get over the defeat of the mighty German empire. How could this superior race be defeated? How do they lose? Why did they lose? How did this happen to mighty? Do you know Deutschland to the mighty areas. You Know Q.. Scapegoat the German Army. Command spread the myth that the army had not lost the war on the battlefield. Oh field now. Of course not they could have fucking kick everyone's ass easy come on guys easy peasy. They lost because they've been stabbed in the back. And who did the stabbing. You guessed it. Yes of course. It was the polls holes dirty. Polish savages disgusting ancestors and my wife. Initially Hiller had gotten a right fucking Poland the backstabbing in polls in their backwards ways had ruined. Fuck it everything for Germany. When World War One started the Polish territory was split between Austria Hungary the German empire and the Russian Empire and became the scene of many operations on the eastern front of World War One and Poland was supposed to fight on behalf of the Germans and they try messing things up because a really stupid they constantly honestly held their guns backwards? Shot themselves over. A million Polish soldiers died exactly that way during World War One they would get the end of their barrel confused with the gun sight and they would look directly into the barrel right and then they would think it has suddenly become nighttime. They get scared and they get spooked. And they'd pull the trigger. Shoot their brains out another fifty thousand pulls died because they confuse hand-grenades for ripe apples. They tried to eat them. Another ten thousand Polish people died from getting scared on the battlefield and breaking their necks trying to hide their heads into the ground. So they couldn't. It'd be seen like a like an ostrich was chaos. And of course I'm Chikan. Don't you gain no. The Polish people had it rough. And we're one because their land was the site of a fucked hunter fighting and embalming but they weren't blamed for Germany's will one no of course Hiller and many other Germans. German command blamed the Jews. Hitler brought bought into the myth that it was the Jews and the Communists the betrayed his precious Deutschland but most of the juice they brought their softest faulk left wing government into power and that government had thrown into the war towel. Ah War Towel. You know prematurely and mine. COMP thirty-six-year-old Hitler's autobiography Slash Manifesto published in two volumes in nineteen twenty five and nineteen twenty. Six Hitler himself explains that he had no special feelings about Jews before moving to Vienna and then initially he's thought favorably of them then he claims to have seen quote the light. After Germany's lost World War One. He wrote that he held the Jews responsible. If you remember from the World War One suck in Germany got hammered and and the aftermath of world. War One Germany's found to be at fault by the winners of the war. Which is how that tends to work? And Jimmy was forced to pay enormous. Crippling restitutions is to France and other nations and that plunged Jeremy Germany into a terrible economic depression economically. The people of Germany were so destitute that they literally US dollars for toilet paper or for kindling because their money had lost. Nearly all of its value. Due to hyper inflation please never happen in my lifetime. Please never happen in my lifetime. Please never have it in my lifetime. Dear God can you imagine he mashed if your money suddenly lost its value like basically entire value. especially if you were just hitting retirement age like one day you're set next next the economy collapses and suddenly that nest egg is rotten. It stinks so terrible so terrible. CHECK OUT CHECK OUT fucking bad. Bad things were one thousand fourteen. I found I found this fascinating. Nineteen fourteen when World War One began. The exchange rate of the German mark to the American dollar was about four point two to one. Let check this out. Nine years later it was four point two trillion two one four point two sutro into one. I found three separate reputable sources that I put in the show notes. You can download the time gap to show. That didn't just make that shit up. I I wanted to triple source that because it sounds so fucking ridiculous one to four point two trillion with that means your money is completely worthless right goodbye. Fat Comfy Savings Account. Hello long government handout line. Their stories of Germans bringing a literal will barrel of cash just to buy a single loaf of bread and the Jews are blamed by many for all of this and Adolf believed in the myth. We talked so much about last week that his people with a rightful dependence or descendants of the the era in God folk who came from the magical lost land of Atlantis. He believed that not only a juice cost Germany a world war one victory. They they'd also been weakened in the German bloodline for centuries entries by captain. Mustache all in on eugenics thinking that selective breeding could restore areas to the former glory. Nazis didn't invent eugenics by the way by the nineteen thirties. Theories of Eugenics were well known around the world the English scientists Franson golden had coined the term eugenics meaning good birth in eighteen eighty three German German biologist August vitamins theory of immutable germplasm published eighteen. Ninety two foster growing international support for you Jenex as did the rediscovery in one thousand nine hundred. Austrian Botanist Gregor Mendel theory that the biological makeup of organisms was determined by certain factors that were later identified as jeans the term gene. I used by Danish scientists in one thousand nine after classified individuals into labeled groups using the scientific methods of the day observation family genealogies physical measurements intelligent contests they ranked groups from superior to inferior beginning in the nineteen thirties. Hitler's regime touted the Nordic race as the most superior the EUGENIC ideal ideal and attempted to mold Germany to go. He's national community excluded. Anyone deemed hereditarily less valuable or racially foreign public health measures. Here's to control reproduction. And marriage aimed at strengthening the national body by eliminating biologically threatening genes for the population were enacted this all would lead directly to the Warsaw Ghetto Holocaust Hiller and many other Nazis believed in the superiority of the Aryan German race that long persecuted Jews were inferior to such an extent that they're almost non human human right in their eyes. Hiller felt that he would be doing the world a favor by wiping out the Jewish race. So now we have really set the stage for the Warsaw ghetto right now now if you you think like how did they do that. Then you weren't paying attention to the suck up until this point Hitler's final solution was an evil plan not hatched out of thin air instead it was built on the back of almost almost two thousand years of Jews being nearly continually persecuted in Europe and the Jews were persecuted because they refuse to give up their gods and customs and accept the gods and customs of the Greeks or the Romans or the papacy in the rest of Europe's Christian leaders. There were blamed for killing Christ. A few them successfully lent money became wealthy and then they were seen as greedy thieves. Who took the gentiles money? Insane lies were made up about them like they baked the blood of Christian babies into the bread they were they were seen as evil as satanic even now now back to the ghettos for just a sec before we move onto Warsaw and that infamous ghetto as I said before Jewish neighborhoods or Jewish ghetto. Excuse me where neighborhoods in Europe where Jews were required wired to live by law. After the I get it was set up in Venice in fifteen sixteen. The ghetto system was spread around Europe in July. Fifteen fifty five via Pope Paul. The fourth north issuing of the Ku Nemo's absorb this change in papal policy. I'm so glad I don't live back in time. I would have been fucking burned. I think I would have been burned alive life. I would've I would've let it slip for the wrong. People like the pope. Were done. Something like that on my fucking dumb ass. Pope fucking hate that guy's hat. Hey the guy stupid fucking decrees Jag ask and then next thing you know. I'm hot guys come on. I still hot thought. Oh this guy okay okay. Change in papal policy implemented a series of restriction the Jewish life dramatically reshaped Jews placing Catholic society among these restrictions with requirement of Jews to identify themselves by wearing a yellow L. O. Badge there are also restrictions the ownership of property restrictions on commerce tighter regulations on banking the biggest new requirement of this ordinance was the creation of additional national Jewish only neighborhoods oftentimes neighborhoods with less maintenance and were standards of living in. The rest of the city was very intentional. By contrast allowed religious authorities to highlight the difference between Jews and Christians make it seem as though the destitute living conditions of the ghetto where the natural consequence for denying the divinity of Christ. The ghetto in Venice was enclosed by wall and Gates. That were locked at night. I think it locked in. The ghetto in Venice was crowded therefore was necessary to add new floors onto existing buildings loubet trivia as what led the world's first so-called skyscrapers. The founding of the Venice Ghetto was followed by the establishment of a ghetto in Rome in fifteen fifty five and then by creation creation of other ghettos throughout northern Italy between fifteen seventy and sixteen twenty the largest European ghettos were centered in Venice Frankfurt. Prague forced to live in special walls engaged. Engaged quarter set aside within the cities. The Jews develop their own schools civic institutions rabbinical courts by the twentieth century. Jews had no no. We're no longer forced to living these ghettos but because they had lived in those ghettos for so many generations many continued to live in segregated quarters of town and cities throughout Europe including Warsaw. Yes Warsaw now. Poll centric from here on out for centuries polling was home to one of the largest most significant Jewish communities in the world. Why lie because despite my teasing despite chicken post people are actually historically pretty fucking awesome Polish monarchs invited the Jews to their country when the rest of Europe was being raises tickets. Award them right. Status and total religious tolerance pull them a so accepting when the rest of Europe was not the by the mid sixteenth century eighty percent percent of all of the Jews in the entire world. We're living in Poland. Which really makes today's story that much more sat right? Poland had been in a waste of tolerance in a continent of persecution persecution. And then the Nazis came along and fucked that all up by being insane hateful pricks things. Were perfect in Poland. Right there were still some Christian versus Jewish tension but one of the things ever perfect before World War. Two Warsaw was diversed tolerant and cosmopolitan city. Almost one point. Four million people lived in Warsaw before before the war. The prewar Jewish population of the Polish capital was estimated. Two hundred seventy thousand people. Then the Nazis moved in by the time they left you know just over five years the overall population will be down to four hundred thousand just over five years. They knocked a million people out of a city of one point. Four million Holy Holy Shit. It would take Warsaw thirty years to build back up to one point. Four million now that invasion talk about the invasion of Poland by Germany went down like this four forty five. Am September. I nine hundred thirty nine one point. Five million Nazis invaded dated Poland. I'd look at a few sources for that numbers. Well one point five million as a Lotta dudes with guns shown up on your border and showing up on your soil. It's terrifying simultaneously. The Germans bombed Polish airfields German warships and U boats attacked Polish naval forces in the Baltic Sea. It was a true German blitzkrieg or lightning war. Hit your enemy really fucking hard and really fast completely overwhelm them. Don't give them a chance to organize mount any sort of effective defense. The German German invasion began one week after the signing of the Molotov Ribbentrop Pact Declaration of peace between Germany and the Soviet Union also seemed to be kind of a sneaky agreement to fuck doc. Poland up needs take chunks of it. The Soviets invaded Poland on September seventeenth barely two weeks after Germany avoiding conflict with the Nazis. Taking more Poland for themselves German forces invaded Poland. The morning after the leaflets incident goal false flag Operation Iraqi conspiracy theory a real false flag example The the it's very clear it's life it's life it's incident was part of Operation Himmler a series of special operations undertaken by the SS to served Nazi German propaganda. The outbreak of the war the operation was intended to create the appearance of Polish aggression against Germany to justify the invasion of Poland. fucking himmler again guys vote if instead of waiting for pollen to maybe attack us and then we maybe talk them back and they have a chance to get the defense. We just say that they attacked us. It's not one has closed circuit cameras or anything. We can totally do it. If ever tolliver two guys it would be so cool for such is is your Nazi agent. Stage a fake attack on the German radio transmission tower at life. It's on the German Polish border. Adolf Hitler used this attack as a pretext for the invasion of Poland. The next day as the Germans advanced Polish forces withdrew from their forward bases of operation close to the polish-german border to more established. Defense lines to the east but they would be vastly outnumbered outgunned quickly overwhelmed by Tober six a little over a month. After the first attack Poland was done and if troops could move faster back then they would have been done even and faster by Germany and the Soviet Union began dividing and annexing the whole of Poland Poland under the terms of the German Soviet frontier treaty. The success of this invasion and mark the end of the second Polish republic the scale of the attack on Poland in particular is staggering on September tenth alone. The Germans conducted seventeen bombing raids on the city. Three days later fifty. German planes attacked the city center in total. One hundred forty thousand people were killed including roughly twenty thousand civilians. Ten ten percent of the city's buildings were completely obliterated. Forty percent of the city's buildings were heavily damaged in a few weeks of fighting so half of the city's buildings like all of the the city's buildings were completely destroyed or like really fucked up after giving the nation of Germany ended up in control of saw not good Nazi leader Adolf. Hitler wasn't great with the Russian control. Do either but you know it was like the lesser of two evils Nazi leader Adolf. Hitler claimed the massive invasion was defensive action right Britain and France not convinced him was like I just okay all right jeff maybe work. You're right so I'm sorry it doesn't have mother September third declared war on Germany kicking off World War Two so why was polling invaded though by the Nazis in the first place and why Poland will for Hitler the Congress Poland was to bring lieven even strong or living space to the German people. According to this crazy plan. The racially superior Germans would colonize the Polish territory and the subhuman Slavs would become become the area's slaves. The Nazis were insane right. Nobody whoops they just wanted to enslave the Slavs kill the juice and the Germans more room spread feed out have bigger yards and shit. German expansion had actually begun before Poland in nineteen thirty eight with the annexation of Austria and then continued with the occupation of a historically German portion of Czechoslovakia Doc. Ya called Sudetenland and then all of Czechoslovakia Nineteen thirty nine both have been accomplished without igniting hostilities with the major powers and Hitler hoped his invasion of Poland would likewise be tolerated. It wasn't Hillary didn't really give a fuck. If Britain France. Who WanNA play this game? All right fine was tacky guys as well after taking aching Poland. Hitler didn't waste time setting up. The Warsaw ghetto is part of his Lebron plan right. Living Space is bring slavery back plan the World War. Two ghetto system was begun by Nazi Germany in October. Nineteen thirty nine immediately after taking Poland. The Nazis wanted confined Poland's total Jewish population of three point. Five million for the purpose of persecution terror exploitation extermination started in nineteen thirty nine Polish. Jews were systematically forced to move away from their homes into the designated areas of large Polish cities the first large ghetto world war. Two at who is One of those crazy Polish words pits pietro. Pitra cough type Hausky there. We go petrakov tribe. Hausky was established. October eighth nineteen thirty nine followed by the ghetto. This word by the way Hobo which is spelled L. O. DC. Yeah you figure that out L. O. D. Z.. Pronounced which followed by April nineteen forty the Warsaw ghetto in October nineteen forty many other ghettos established throughout nineteen forty nine hundred forty one the ghettos walled off as fast as walls could be built any Jew found trying to escape from them was shot and the Warsaw ghetto got super crowded super-quick by the end of September or this of timber campaign the number of Jews in and around the capital increase dramatically due to thousands of Jewish refugees refugees escaping the Polish German front in any possible way often on foot right running away from the from the battlefields in less than a year the number of refugees in Warsaw uh exceeded ninety thousand on October seventh the Jewish Council. You've got a council of Jewish. People is formed in Warsaw by the Nazis. This issued Council was composed of twenty four. Prominent individuals led by Adam Tornado. And it'd be who'd be personally responsible for carrying out. German orders Kansas on people this poor bastard this Adam Tonight Akot historians especially sad even amongst the tale of so much sorrow Adam genetic Oh chose a policy. The of collaboration with the Nazis in the hope of nothing had much choice but in the hope of saving more lives that way there will be lost. If the if the council attempted to defy the Nazis in any way Adam confided his hair and experience in a diary that we will examine soon in today's time line pretty intense the formation of the council Adam lead kicked off a bunch of bullshit laws being made by the Nazis who charged with enforcing these laws. The purpose of these laws was to separate the Jews and the rest of the population dehumanize them make carrying out there later heinous acts that that much easier on October twenty six thousand nine hundred eighty nine. The imposition of Jewish forced labor was announced and the Jews were forced to clear the rubble from the bombing of their own own. You know buildings without being paid for doing so months later on November twentieth. The bank accounts of Polish Jews were frozen so they can suddenly only withdraw a tiny amount per day. A just enough to buy food for the family for the day not enough to buy a new life somewhere else in escape on November twenty third all Jewish establishments were ordered to display a Jewish star on doors and windows and Nazis could easily and quickly identify where Jewish people were located on December. First all Jews older than ten years old were compelled to wear a white armband in on December eleventh. They were forbidden from using public transit and the hits kept common January twenty six thousand four. The Jews were banned from holding communal prayers right the candidature any more now. The reason given is to cut down the risk of spreading epidemics. And why would the not worried that. The Jewish people would spread disease because they the thought of them is filthy. sub-human monsters the Nazis also beginning to consolidate other Jewish settlements around Warsaw and move Jews into the center of the city. The Jewish population of Warsaw Russell reached three hundred fifty nine thousand eight hundred twenty seven by the end of the year. Get a wall. Construction began on April first. Nineteen forty not quite seven months after the Germans. I I invaded Poland. The Wall circled area of Warsaw inhabited predominantly by juice. The work was supervised by the war. Saw you'd run to make room for the ghetto. The Nazi authorities kicked one hundred thirteen thousand non Jewish ethnic poles out of the neighborhood and they ordered the relocation of one hundred thirty eight thousand Warsaw Jews from various other parts of town into the city center then on November Fifteenth Nineteen forty a year and a month and a half after invading Poland. The Germans closed the Warsaw ghetto to the outside world. The Wall was about thirteen thirteen feet high topped with barbed wire escapees. Were instructed that anyone attempting to sneak out of the ghetto will be shot on sight and they were shot on site. Often German police police officers assigned to patrolling. The Wall would hold victory parties on the days when a large number of prisoners were shot attempting to escape the ghetto. Some ghetto prisoners did escape like Janina a Vitz. Choose a nine year old girl. When World War Two engulf Poland? She would live in the ghetto for over two years. She'd attend a secret school forbidden. By the Nazis. ABC's teachers and students were caught be executed just for learning should watch. Almost everyone should ever know me around by the Nazis and sent from the ghetto to concentration. She camps eventually. Her father was Jewish police officer. The Nazis hired to patrol the ghetto. He snuck her out of the ghetto. Got Her into the hands of carrying Christian family who risk their life to save her. I didn't take into a convent or nuns. Hid Her until the end of the war. So Europe important to note did have some good Christians. Well now don't want that to get lost in this story. Many many Christians in Germany and Poland and elsewhere would risk their lives and or give up their lives to help save Jewish people Hale Nimrod little light and all this darkness Janina Anina would make it to Australia after the war. She worked as a social worker from. There should have actually moved to London where she wrote about her experiences. In the Warsaw Ghetto her book is called a square of sky. Hi and has written under the pen name of Janina David. If you ever want to check it out now let's get back to the ghettos beginning. The Nazi in charge of the ghetto was a huge asshole. Valdemar showing who had also supervised the initial Jewish relocations nineteen forty into the ghetto and early Nazi adopter. This guy joined the party back in nineteen thirty. He was just following orders. He loved his shit showing known to world war historians mostly for orchestrating in our in artificial famine in the ghetto in January of nineteen forty one. Yes he orchestrated in artificial famine showing eliminated virtually all food supplies. Being sent into the ghetto was essentially fired for being too cruel even by Nazi standards in March of nineteen forty one. How fucking insane is that when dude like Himmler things that you're taking too far I did not doing doing Sharon eliminated? Virtually all the food. It's like there's no chill look I get it. I do not enjoy his you. You know that but virtually no food. That's is crucial on. So that trixie devil horns maybe it is but they still have little bread. Tom Toms because he gets Assad is is making my eyes. Varta is how to think about when the ghetto was originally opened under show and it was enormous its initial population was roughly four hundred fifty thousand. The Warsaw ghetto the largest ghetto in all of Nazi occupied Europe and also tiny in size geographically by over four thousand Jewish people crammed into an area of one point three square miles seven point two people per room room over seven people per room not only to the Nazis. Take away the Jewish people's freedom to take away their privacy. I can't even get a good jerk in. There is supposed to beat. It was seven point. Two people per room. You gotta be so quick so quite a jerk. Ninja Masters Callo silent flick of the wrist. And you're you're done silent. Silence Silence Flip flip flip of the beam the beam why don't they flip of the beam. NSA Flick of the being. You Guy you guys knew. Warsaw thirty percent of the population reputation forced to live in two point. Four percent of the city's area with very few exceptions right. They weren't allowed to leave the ghetto. The Nazis kept him trapped inside and essentially as human cattle. Oh holding pen given the tiniest amount of food to maybe keep them alive. Food was heavily rationed throughout Nazi occupied Warsaw. The Warsaw Jews were giving even disturbingly tiny amount of food. Germans were given two thousand six hundred and thirteen calories today. I want to put this in Taco bell terms because a lot of people familiar with Taco huckle bell and because I desperately want to lighten this darkness to fuck up just a tiny bit at least two thousand six hundred calories that's basically six Taco Bell. beefy frito Britos Day ride their foreign forty calories each and yes the beef Rita Britos a real saying it seasoned ground beef Cilantro Rice warm Nacho cheese sauce in original original fritos corn chips all wrapped in a warm flour Tortilla Tortilla. And as. I think he's just say Tortil- actually talking about Taco Bell. I WANNA go back. It's a tour Tila when it's Taco Bell and it is guaranteed to full blitzkrieg your fucking butthole. So if German get six of these nations. If you're Polish I should not German but also not Jewish you six hundred and sixty nine calories where the food per day. That's almost exactly one and a half but ho bust friel Britos a day. Now if you're Jewish I. This is so disturbing a hundred eighty-one calories a day a day. Just a hair over forty percent of if one of these things a day less than half of one Super Shitty Burrito for the whole fucking day one small chicken soft Taco Taco Bell is one hundred eighty calories. You could have one of those nothing else. A ten ounce tiny as Tropicana shitty orange juice hundred and forty calories think about think about just to put this all perspective respective a packet a a small package not even a king size whatever they call it a small package of peanut. EMINEM's two hundred fifty calories a fucking maple bar. Doughnut has at two hundred calories. You're getting less than one candy bar less than one. donuts worth of food a day not to food had given to Jewish people. Living in the ghetto consisted of dry bread that was is literally mixed with Sawdust Sawdust. Not Good for you in case you don't know how fucking food works wood scraps not in the Food Food Pyramid. They're giving flour potatoes and lowest quality like moldy flour potatoes rotten turn up small multi supplement of half spoiled margarine sugar borderline rancid rancid meat or full on random mate. Crowded conditions and malnutrition led to rampant disease. Of course it didn't. They ghetto during the first year. Despite a large number of Jews and also were many people's commonly family known as Gypsies being brought into the Warsaw ghetto. The population will remain the same right because despite how many extra people they were bringing in sewn people were dying. A lot of people were dying of due to epidemics of typhus and other bacterial infections. Also dying from starvation because the tiny amount of food rash by the Nazis because it wasn't enough for ghetto occupants is to actually survive on many Warsaw Jews risk their lives or the lives of their children to snow smuggle food into the ghetto up to eighty percent of the food consumed in the ghetto was brought in in a legally food items. Were usually smuggled in by children alone. Who crossed the ghetto wall and a variety of ways by the hundred several times a day returning with as much food as they can carry? Many many in the ghetto would have died without this smuggling operation. Despite barely having enough food to live on the Jews did live inside the Warsaw ghetto. They didn't just survive even though schools were forbidden. You've no. They risked their lives to teach the kept educating their children in this insane inhumane horrific ecosystem something out of a nightmare. They set up their own hospitals public soup. Kitchens orphanages refugee centers recreation facilities. They had secret libraries even had a symphony orchestra. A rabbi rabbi named Alexandra Freidman organized underground network of religious schools including the school for Boys School for Girls School for Elementary Jewish instruction three institutions institutions for advanced Jewish studies. Now let's talk about the final days. The Warsaw ghetto when the deportations came approximately one hundred thousand ghetto. INMATES INMATES had already died of hunger related diseases and starvation before the mass deportations started in the summer of forty two. And why did the mass deportation start because early earlier. This year during the Vanc- conference near Berlin the final solution was set into motion. The Nazis were continuing to escalate. The hate it was no longer enough to isolate slate the Jews or imprison them no longer enough to force them to work for free and humiliate them humiliate them. They wanted to kill him. All may come as a surprise to some you did to me but genocide was not always part of Hitler's plan at first. Hitler just wanted to carry out. Lebensraum the plan for making room for Germans but then that plan shifted to the the final solution which was basically killing all Jews along with other folks and Nazis determined to be intolerable and their vision of a future world on January twentieth. Nineteen forty due to the conference was attended by fifteen Nazi senior bureaucrats. The Conference Marta. Turning point and Nazi policy towards the Jews in earlier idea idea was to deport. All of Europe's Jews to the island of Madagascar. Right off the coast of Africa off the eastern coast of Africa this was now abandoned as impractical in wartime. I can't believe that was a real idea. Tossed around for a long time by the way to send all of Europe Jews to Madagascar. Just just make a big island over five thousand miles away. I mean I mentioned that the Nazis were insane right now. The newly plan final solution to the Jewish problem would entail rounding up all Jews throughout Europe transporting them eastward mainly into Poland and executing shooting them in addition to executing the Jews and Nazis also planned. I didn't know this to reduce the population of the conquered territories by thirty million people through starvation. Asian in an action called the hunger plan ruthless. These mother fuckers were ruthless. Some conference center supersonic for scenic Berlin Lakefront subur- suburb avanzi held in this beautiful villa. That's now a museum kinda crazy to think about these sadistic assholes just sitting around eating the finest foods sitting in these. You know Hoity Toity Hoity toity furniture in this beautiful villa looking out of this pristine lake casually just discussing the worst shit imaginable. So I'M GONNA kill outages right like the baby is and everything. Yeah okay. That's good. I was worried that some of you would push out about the babies of. What does this cheese made out of this limbo? That does a fine job and cheese is really quite wonderful. Anyway after the Jews how many others will recall will be thirteen million more fathers and mothers and children out of school. That's a good. That's a good start. Did the joke. I said that was a good start. Even though you said thirty million which I know is more than just a start. That's why that's why it's funny 'cause 'cause it's not the right right averred for the for the such a situation. I just any vase. The Limburg is so good such a wonderful area and cheese. Shortly after this crazy conference he's fucking lunatics The captives residents the Warsaw ghetto began to be rounded up and sent to death camps specifically ghetto captives were sent aboard Holocaust trains to the Treblinka. Death camp building a forest just fifty miles northeast of Warsaw. Around three hundred thousand residents by some accounts were sent to Treblinka and murdered there between July twenty third and September twenty first of nineteen forty two for eight weeks the deportation of Jews from Warsaw to Treblinka continued on a fucking in daily basis via to shuttle trains each transport carrying about four thousand. Seven thousand people crying out for water crying for their lives crammed in about one hundred people for cattle truck. The first daily trains rolled into the camp early in the morning often after overnight. Wait at a layover yard. And then the second mid afternoon all new arrivals to Treblinka were set immediately immediately to an undressing area and from there most were sent to the gas chambers. The stripped victims were suffocated to death in batches of two hundred with a use of monoxide gas. Mike what a whore those final moments right. It would take several minutes for everyone to die children screaming parents sobbing death with no dignity. It's timber nineteen forty two new gas chambers were built which kills many as three thousand people in just two hours right. The Nazis built new gas chambers because trainloads of Jewish people being taken to a fucking indepth camp every day. These were dying fast enough for them. In the last two weeks is operation which ended on September twenty first nineteen forty two some forty eight thousand Warsaw Jews. Jews were deported to their deaths. The last transport of two thousand two hundred victims from the Polish capital included the Jewish police who assisted the Nazis sending everyone else to their desks. Yes I I got. They help round up everybody else into the train so they could just live a little bit longer. Only to end up hitching a ride themselves to the same death. Camp Altogether. Roughly a quarter of a million Jews were taken from the ghetto gas in Treblinka. And just that one summer and then in nineteen forty to those who remained about fifty five thousand started to resist resist deportation. They refused to leave the ghetto and get on the train. A newly formed group that Jewish Fighting Organization the Zeo be the acronym works and Hebrew slowly to control patrols. The ghetto twenty-seven twenty-seven-year-old Yitzhak Zuckerman. Kobe leader negotiated the gifts and black market purchases of pistols. Grenades few arrivals he smuggled these long with messages into the ghetto during the war or through the Warsaw sewers. This fucking bad ass. Freedom fighter would smuggle roughly seventy five underground fighters Out of the ghetto at the end of the uprising including his future wife Zibia and continue to fight right in the other areas of Warsaw. Only thirty four of the fighters that came with him and survived the war. One of those was his future wife. Also neither one of those heroes had been sent to Warsaw right. They snuck into help. They volunteered volunteered. Heroes Nana Stanley superheroes have shit on these two incredible For months and not ignore those remained in the ghetto went about dealing with other ghettos. Fight another battles then on January. Eighteenth nineteen forty-three. After almost four months without deportations the Germans suddenly entered the Warsaw ghetto intent on final round ups and nats when the remaining Jews fought back. The Germans expected no real resistance but the attempted roundup was stopped by hundreds of brave insurgents. Armed with a few handguns and a bunch of Molotov cocktails the underground fighters from the also Z.. W. The Jewish military union pushed the Nazis back out the only had about five hundred fighters in its ranks and not very many guns like a couple dozen this easy W had about two hundred and fifty fighters most of the Jewish fighters died in the battle but the attacks officially disoriented the Germans enough to allow a lot of juice rain collins to be boarded onto death trains a chance to disperse the Nazis did take five thousand sixty five hundred ghetto residents to be deported. Did but the German suspended further deportations on January twenty first because of this uprising and for the next three months Nazis for the most part stayed out of the ghetto because of Jewish resistance. It's the final battle started on the eve of Passover April nineteenth nineteen forty. Three with a Nazi force consisted of several thousand troops entered the ghetto to find the last couple of hundred fighters. There's another hideouts. The German forces intended to liquidate the Warsaw ghetto completely when s and police units entered the ghetto that morning the streets were deserted. Nearly all of the residents together had gone into hiding places or bunkers armed with pistols grenades many of them homemade in a few automatic weapons and rifles the resistance fighters stunned the Germans again on on the first day of fighting forced the German forces to retreat back outside the ghetto wall. GotTa hope the resistance fighters celebrated like Oh just so hard that night hope. They sang hope. They Dan's hopefully fucked and laughed and cried and screamed insults against the Nazi devils into the night Halo Safina German commander. SS General Urine stroup reported losing twelve. Twelve men killed and wounded during that first assault on the ghetto. Little bit of payback. That had to feel good killed some Nazis a little bit of blood for blood and then a few hundred resistance fighters fought the few thousand much better equipped Nazis entire month significant resistance ended on April Twenty eight and the Nazi operation officially ended Amid Bay symbolically culminating with the demolition of the Great Synagogue of Warsaw on May sixteenth after sixty days the polls out of arms supplies food and water were forced to surrender in the aftermath. The Nazis deported much Warsaw's population more fighting outside. The ghetto walls ensued and the Nazis completely destroyed the city ultimately they lost but really just by fighting back they won. They inspired other Jews to fight back elsewhere. In Europe they've inspired resistance fighters elsewhere around the world in the year since they were going to die. Anyway so are they chose to fight killing in the name of rights. Fuck you. I won't do what you tell me. They were full of rage against the machine. Courageous Bastards Okinawa's back up a little little bit for a more personal look in the madness of Warsaw. Let's return to the diaries. I guess now return. Let's look we mentioned him. We have looked into them. Let's look at the diaries of the Jewish which man put in charge of helping eliminate his own people. Adam Tonight Akot diaries. I Adam daily diary throughout his time as chairman of the Jewish Council in Warsaw. Aw his diary gives us an invaluable light into a daily life in the ghetto must have looked like what it did. Look like under the Nazis. So let's check in with his diary in today's time. Suck Time Light Shrimp on those boots. Soldier where Martin down a time Sucker time-line in October eighth nineteen thirty nine. The first entry in Adams diary that were going to mention Adam wrote morning from eight thirty to twelve old the SS waiting for the keys. Later policemen accompanied me to unlock the community hall. The remaining rooms were locked and sealed. Twenty four chairs were placed in the hall. An inventory was taken now. Sounds pretty boring. But how strange for Adam. This is the beginning. This is the very beginning of the Nazis. Adjust barely invaded a month before they bomb. Tom The fuck out of a city. He's Jewish he knows how the Nazis feel about the Jews right. He has to now for over three hours. He's waiting for some s shit head to give him the keys to his own community. The whole I doubt that dude was super nice and friendly. Sorry about the bottom. Oh my goodness heavens to special. I can't believe it took risotto. To find a case. I'm sorry this feels personal but are you Jewish are you are. That's so cool. I've always loved to choose such a writ heritage. No I fucking Dick head Tober. twenty-fifth Adam simply wrote office in the morning surrendering the radio set. Simple entry but not good. Why would you have to run to the radio back to? The radio is not one of the best forms of communication. You know you had with the outside world to phones have been controlled by the Nazis. I'm sure they were radio. Fry Your only way to communicate or try communicate with the allies and you know ask them to help you get the fuck out of Nazi occupied territory. Try and find out what's going on or maybe set up some kind of resistance with other resistance. People either taking control November eighteenth nineteen thirty nine atom wrote ghetto postponed for a few months. The community ordered to place his borders signs stating danger Injure Epidemics Entry Prohibited. But there wasn't an epidemic unless the Jewish people themselves counted as an epidemic. Yes as wanted to keep people out of that neighborhood because they they were getting ready to wall it off. Couple weeks later November thirtieth Adam wrote a newspaper was brought in with announcement on the Jewish armbands. The marketing of Jewish shops as as well as the execution of the fifty three from Milwaukee St Louis fifty-three executed juice. Why were they killed? Because one Jewish youth had shot the police officer a Polish police officer when they came to arrest him for allegedly stealing something and so the Nazis executed him and fifty two other other Jewish people from his neighborhood that nothing to do with the crime. It was the beginning of a new policy against the Jews called collective responsibility. Someone from your family family or one of your friends or your neighbors does something. We're GONNA fuck up all of you on December Twentieth Atom Rights Prayers in synagogues prohibited rumors about the Prague ghetto. Okay now can't pray together by things are escalating. Don't even three months. Since the Nazis took Warsaw they've already taken the Jewish people's religion from them demonstrated that killed him for nothing January seventeenth nineteen forty two. They must prepare a report on my Jewish property. Alas do not possess much although in these times this is a blessing lesson now the registering them taking their shit. Can you imagine. Can you imagine if some new regime came into your neighborhood told you you were forbidden to go to church. killed some of your neighbors because one of them shot a cop and then they made you register your property which you knew was leading to them just taking all your shit. September fifth nineteen forty in the morning at the custodio in regard to the workers from the battalion and those arrested yesterday at Unia Square. Romanowski announce key from WJR visited me to community in the company of an SS man and the chief of the food office. The food office la the walls being built. Now it'll be finished in two months. There's a food office giving Adam and the other Jews the rations very little rights one Taco Bell Soft Taco Day type rations. What what he must be thinking about all of this reading survivor stories? It seems that many thought we're GONNA get through. This is going to be over soon. Dear God let it be over soon and then it's going to be fine. The lights go back to normal. It would all be over soon just not at all like anyone hoped well. Let's I guess you were the Nazis October Fourteenth Nineteen forty fishers proclamation about about. The ghetto has now just been published. The boundaries do not correspond with the plan that was handed to me. Legions of Jews from Prague are trying to Warsaw their push carts filled with pitiful junk doc one month until the wall sealed and the crowd. Little is getting way. More crowded with Adam speaks at the boundaries not correspond to what was given to him. I am strongly guessing. He means he was given much less land for his people. I highly doubt it went the other way you know a highly again. I'm friendly I says I I the kingdom let you some hair body ever talked about together. Boundaries I'm going to be honest I I don't like the plan. I mean barely over square mile for so oh minute. It doesn't seem reasonable but if we give you like ten. Th Grandma's the giants park for the kids smoke house and gardens. Maybe a swimming pool. I mean I mean I mean you like swimming pools. Yeah this is cool a November fourth nineteen forty. He rides when I appeared the battalion office. The officer in charge set upon me hitting me the head until I felt at this point. The soldiers started kicking me with their boots. When I tried to stand up they jumped on me and threw me down the stairs? have fly down. They beat me again in the end I was dragged I to a truck but was soon ordered to move into another one. I was in transported with singer Let's off the bunch of names back to Zouk Avenue. Jesus I get. It was sealed just eleven days after this. Maybe maybe he was upset about the rations. Maybe maybe cramped living conditions. Something maybe he dared to tell him. SS officers are being unreasonable. Or maybe the Nazi Justin Voice at day and they just beat the fuck out of him the number twelve nine hundred forty he writes we have received unofficial news at those caught leaving the get it will be shot in the Jewish detention in the Jewish detention facility the day after tomorrow three days before it was sealed off and Adam here is that if they try to leave without permission they're gonNA be shot. which was true five days later? Adam writes at seven thirty. The execution was carried out in the prison yard. Why were they executed? Well considering this entry comes two days after the walls or sealed probably to escape. Let's skip ahead eight months now at the summer of Nineteen Forty One July twenty first writes in the community I received a letter from the commissar are on the FOOF Gotcha gone. Watch bureau the Control Office for combating the black market and profiteering. The Jewish district of Warsaw is hereby dissolved. Okay so now. The Nazis have given up trying to control black market goods by being snuck into get a why because they're super cool. Nice Guys No. I bet it was because they realized it was easier to do it. This sway by digging spend even less manpower less money on keeping anyone in the get alive in case if you're wants to keep them alive for some reason later like for slave labor or if you know Hitler some Piece of shit wants them for medical experimentation a December thirteenth nineteen forty one Initially Okay Oh yeah. Initially Adam himself did not live in the ghetto due you'd working with DSS so this ends. In December of nineteen forty one and on the thirteenth he writes about his relocation. I moved to an apartment on twenty eight January nineteenth eighteen th nineteen forty two. He writes. I've heard the hours walled or I've heard that our swelled has been summoned to Berlin. I cannot shake off the fearful suspicion that the Jews of Warsaw may be threatened by mass. Ask Resettlement. And why would he be worried about resettlement. I'm guessing you know Adam He knew that this meant death. February nineteenth nineteen forty two rights. I I went to see our salt. He inspector hours vault. He inspected the prison yesterday. As a result fifty people were directed to a camp probably Treblinka so this Archibald Adam is referring to his hind are sold a German lawyer S S member put in charge of the Warsaw ghetto on April of forty one. He would oversee the transportation of the residents to the blink. A death camp. He'd be investigated after the war crimes but not until nineteen seventy sadly and then he died at the age of sixty two and avoid any charges. April April I nine hundred forty two. He writes news from Lublin. Ninety percent of the Jews are to leave Lublin within the next few days the sixteen council members together with the chairman. Becker were reportedly arrested relatives of the other counters. Aside from their wives and children must also leave Lublin in the morning hours about a thousand expellees from Hanover and and guilt Cureton were sent over. They were putting the quarantine at one. Oh nine Leszno street okay. Lulu was another Polish ghetto. Out of knows they're being sent to the death Camp Hanover. Hanover held a small Jewish community. As did who've Yeltsin Kurkin and they were all being sent to concentration camps four days later on April nights he wrote in the morning at the community hours. Walled ordered one hundred sixty a young German Jews from quarantine to be taken to Treblinka. Okay so now. The stick in the Warsaw ghetto or no longer being treated needed. They're just being taken straight to the death camp out of has been working with S. S. for over two years. Now he has to know what the overall deal is. He has to know. Eventually they're gonNA come for them all his plan now inspect expect speculating And just just based on other things I've read is it just. The allies will liberate them before. They're all killed just hoping that somehow this will all change April eleventh nineteen forty two later to Oswald about the orchestra. The commissars sent me a letter yesterday suspending performances of the orchestra for two months for having having played the works of Aryan composers. How fucking heartless is this may be so mad when I read it the first time? The fancy conference has been held back in January. That's where the final solution was decided at this point the Nazis have known for months. They're gonNA kill all these people or they're gonNA kill him anyway. Men Women children all of them. But they're still not GonNa let them listen to fucking can music inside the ghetto. That's evil shit the fucking monsters at this point right. They've they've done more than just humanize him. This is a decent person. Wouldn't due to who an animal it's not gonna put them dog down and then you don't even let the dog have a fucking chew toy for the final hours of its life. Maybe some of these Nazis were just following orders and didn't want on any of this to happen but some of them did want this to happen or it wouldn't have happened April twenty second nineteen forty two. They brought to the Jewish prison ten Gypsies men and women with their king quick. A good to note here wasn't just the Jews in the Warsaw ghetto. Romantic people also said to the Warsaw ghetto also. Roughly five thousand Christians would end up in the Warsaw Ghetto Christians the Nazis defined as being Jewish. In heritage April twenty-seventh. Nine hundred forty two a transport thousand people arrived from Muhima today. They were unloaded at six. AM later. They were assembled in the great synagogue. I addressed the gathering all right so other. Jewish people still being rounded up sent to Warsaw two-way being taken to concentration training camps. Serb linka may third nineteen forty two in the morning at the community at ten. The film crew from the Propaganda Office arrives it proceeds to take pictures of my office. Man The propaganda office. How fucked up that? They're coming to do some filming. Take some pictures right. Film emaciated and filthy Jewish Ghetto residents Y to show the German people. How Nasty Nasty are the Nazis made them nasty? Didn't give them proper food for them to live in unsanitary conditions and other film in them to prove how superior the healthy well-fed areas are compared to the week juice evil. The city is so evil right. CENTURIES OF RACISM and propaganda in Europe allowed them to dehumanize the Jewish people maybe. Maybe we shouldn't stereotype. Any ethnic group ever can lead you some really really bad yet may fifth nineteen forty two. He writes the film. Crew is still much in evidence since they're filming extreme poverty. The positive achievements are of no interest to them. Yup May Fifteenth Nineteen Forty. Two at eight thirty. I am waiting in home for the film crew. The movie men arrive at eight forty five. Were shooting until twelve thirty. The city is full of rumors about deportations. Tens of thousands of being mentioned purposeful for work under such conditions is worthy of admiration. And yet we are doing it every day. Tears will not help us. I must repeat Dickens words once more. You cannot wind your watch with is your tears. God dammit man they sure know now they know the end is near what can they do. They're vastly outmanned outgunned. They're hungry and tired and scared bay. twenty-fifth nineteen forty forty two in the morning at the community and said community. Big Community Hall would gather probes and the commissar arrive. At Tamaki Street. Thirty Jews have been sent to Treblinka. It's begun small groups now. Being sent small healthy Jewish people being sent to the blink death camp June first nineteen forty two hours volved called at three. PM asking for several hundred more people for Treblinka. July nineteenth nineteen forty two. He writes in the morning at the community. Incredible panic in the city cone Heller. Erlich are spreading reading terrifying rumors created the impression. That is all false propaganda. I wish it were so on the other hand. There was talk of about forty railroad cars ready and waiting. Ah Khan claims that the deportations to commence tomorrow at Eight. PM with three thousand. Jews from the ghetto faulk ramping up. Big Time the final solution has already begun elsewhere. They know what fate awaits them board. Those trains July Twentieth Nineteen Forty two in the morning at seven. Thirty two gestapo. I ask Mendy how much truth. There is in the rumors I he replies that he has heard nothing I turned to brought. He also knows nothing would ask if it could happen he replies he knew of no such scheme uncertain. I left his office I proceeded to his chief commissar. Bom He told me it was not his department but Haman might say something about the rumors. I mentioned that according to the rumors the deportation tation is to start tonight seven thirty. He replied that he would be bound to know something. If we're going to happen not seeing any way out went the deputy chief of section three sure he. He expressed his surprise hearing. The rumor informed that he knew nothing about it. Finally I asked whether I can tell the population their fears were groundless. He replied that I could. All the talk was utter nonsense since I ordered Leach to make the public announcement through the precinct police stations. I drove to our fault. He informed reported everything to the SS. Meanwhile I went onto Some other random names who expressed their indignation and promised investigation. He's been lied to right. Does he know the Nazi's or just telling you what he wants to hear to try to get him to keep the ghetto populist from panicking revolting he probably does right but the desire to believe that. Everything's GonNa be okay no matter how irrational that desire is. It's got to be so strong moments like this right. You just WanNa believe your cabinet when they tell you. Oh no no. No you guys won't be killed now not here. You guys have done everything. We've asked the other other the Jewish people they're going to be killed. You guys are the good guys right. It's insane to believe this not logical but you do anyways but because it's fucking terrifying to think anything else. July twenty first nineteen forty two in the morning at the community just before noon officers of the Security Police Order me to detain in my office. Those counselors dancers who were present in the community building soon the members of the council in my office or arrested in groups at the same time the senior officials of the provisioning authority with with GIPP ner heading the list are also seized. I decided to stay at the community until six PM. Having brought my wife Felicia there earlier. The evening was quiet during the night there deaths than or no during the night deaths the night desk. Not sure if that we mean there but they've taken his staff he knows that spells does nothing good. He knows. Now that no one's GonNa be spared July twenty second in the morning at seven thirty two community the borders of the small ghetto surrounded by a special unit in addition to the regular one Storm Storm in hoover. Hoffa is an associate's came at ten o'clock we disconnected. The telephone. Children were moved from the playground opposite community building. We were told that all Jews irrespective of sex and age with certain exceptions will be deported to the east by four PM. Today a contingent of six thousand people must be provided vited and this at the minimum will be the daily quota. We were ordered to vacate a building at one zero three zero Zonta Street for the German personnel. Who will be carrying out? The deportation station This stern fear hustle in charge of the deportation asked me into his office. This case fucking name by the way S. T. U. R. M. B. A. A. and F. H. R. E. R. F. H. O. F. L.. Get the Fuck Outta here to change it to Smith. Point fucking son of a bitch Stern Donovan Hoffa in charge. The deportation avenues office. Informed me that for the time being my wife was free but if the deportation were impeded in any way she would be the first first one to be shot as a hostage. Jesus fucking Christ Adam is now put in charge of making sure that six thousand at least six thousand men women and children are loaded into fucking death trains taken to a death camp every day and if anything goes wrong at any point. They're going to kill his wife. I've had some bad. It is a work. I've never had a day. This bad. Like in the Ballpark of this bad you hit your job will feel way better right now as your boss asked you to coordinate what your friends neighbors. You'RE GONNA ascended death camp as your boss told you they're gonNA kill your fucking wife if you don't do your job right. Not so bad. I mean the cartoonish evil now no wonder some idiots or holocaust deniers right. It's hard to process this much evil just mentally. So what by the way if you are a Holocaust denier. You're being a huge fucking doc. An asshole an idiot. Actually that is strong enough. You're being account. Pull your fucking head out of your stupid ass and knock that off but I just keep putting this crazy crazy scenario into a modern office this guy dealt with his real life. I mean it's really hard to wrap my head around to something like. Hey Glenn Ed Glenn can you come to my office for second you talking about. He first off. Good job on handling the MacArthur account. you've done a great job. Orders over ten percent year to year. PROFIT FIT overall is down. No down five percents. And that's that's well. It's got the board riled up so I'm going to need you to fire twenty percent of your staff I I know you don't want to. I know you don't want I know it's going to hurt especially right now before Christmas. But you gotTa do a buddy if you don't we're not just GONNA fire you Glenn we're GonNa Kill Your fucking wife. It's insane. July twenty third. The following dire entry written the next day July twenty third. It's GonNa be Adams last entry. He writes in the morning to community worth off from the deportation staff came and we discussed several problems. He exempted the vocational school students from deportation. The husbands of working women as well he told me to take up the matter of orphans with awful the same with reference to craftsman when I asked for the number of days per week in which the operation will be carried out on. Excuse me the answer. Seven days a week throughout the town. A great rush to start new workshops throughout the town a great. I don't know a sewing machine can save a lot of. There's a great rush. Starting to workshop a sewing machine can save a life. It is three three o'clock so far. Four thousand ready to go the orders are there must be nine thousand. By four o'clock. Some officials came to the post office issued instructions at all incoming letters and parcels be diverted to Provide prison and that was all atom and write in his diary. He did write two letters after this. A personal one whose wife and wanted to Jewish Council. He worked with in a letter to the council. He wrote S- They are demanding that I killed the children of my people with my own hands. There was nothing for me to do but but die and later that night. Adam swallowed potassium cyanide pill lay down and did just at Tournai because wife servive the war made the diary available. Josten only son escaped from the ghetto fled the Soviet occupied territory but did not survive the war and that takes us out of this heavy as flock block times time-line good job soldier made it back. Bear my God. How have you was that before we go further? I need to smile insanity. Lighten up a bit. Lighten it up a bit with with a stupid insane sponsor. That will just put me in a better mood. Today's Times look is brought to you by Anton Satanic big top or less trip show Nazi edition. How everybody candies taken off? She's got used in the late day. Like sugar to Cardi's dirty. Your our newest dancer Hinrichs everybody else. Did you not like this. I like to kind of blow some steam dancing with the hot dogs. I like to pretend to percents. I'm giving lap. Don's feeling is out in steely. Find the holy grail of. Maybe I find stone nine the judge. Hey guys then I'm flying. Aaron is giants dance a Carl. What does your mind? Think of my dad's sin mamathe mashed potatoes potatoes potatoes tool collier. So funny. How does no justice smile? Okay now those ridiculous shake off heaviness this imagine Antonova. I found the synthetic motor city. Church one of them. Play the client be so Heinrich Ymca dance all as mentally unstable psychic psychic. Carl made me laugh half because it's so fucking crazy. Okay not long. After Adam killed himself. The overwhelming majority of ghetto residents will be shipped to Blanca executed skewed in mass. Not long after that uprising would occur. It will be squashed and then the ghetto would quite literally be burned to the fucking ground. The Nazis would continue to exterminate millions of other Jews for another two years so totally depression depressing story. No redeeming value rights. Wrong one woman who lived through it sees things differently. She finds a positive message in the story of the Warsaw ghetto. Ghetto survival. She says depends on finding some tiny source of hope and hold on now. We're going to get a little bit little inspirational here on out. Sonia Sonja Klein now ninety three years old living in Brooklyn told Time magazine two years ago. When you're drowning and you see a straw you hang onto? That Straw. Is a straw going to save you. You know what the touch of hope but the touch of hope May in October of one thousand nine hundred forty with Nazi forces occupying Warsaw hundreds of thousands dozens of Jews combined confined within the Ghetto Klein recalls that they were promised that if they reported to certain areas of the city they could find work in food. They were starving already so they did because circle already had a building in the ghetto she and her parents and siblings were able to get a room which she considered lucky because most people when she arrived for homeless in the ghetto and living on the street she said people were starving starving. It was winter and people were dying every morning. That you're able to go out you saw corpses not even covered with newspapers because there wasn't enough time to do it. This is how many people Oregon. How can one forget this around? The end of nineteen forty. Two Klein says word began to spread that the people who had been deported from the ghetto supposedly to labor camps were in fact act being killed her father and a few other men use their hands to dig a hiding spot under the basement of a building with their hands hoping that their families could survive inside for at least a year ear by early nineteen forty-three they were underground. Each day one person would go out to bring back food using a designated knock to get back inside May Holy Shit Hide in a hole dug by hand under a basement inside the ghetto so intense so smart it was from there in Heidi with radios informing them about the outside world at the heard what was going on on above ground and uprising as the uprising. Continue over the next several weeks. One of clients compatriots went out for food was followed back to the hiding space. The secret knock came when the residents looked up they saw the tell tale boots of Nazis there to take them away. Fuck Howard that suck. How would you feel your stomach right? Thank God that spoiler alert. She lives because she's the one telling the story years later coming to the surface for the first time since she gone into hiding she saw the while they were underground. The ghetto had been utterly destroyed in the wake of the first wave of resistance. She says the Germans brought reinforcements from Galicia waves of bombers swept over the defenseless ghetto raining incendiaries incendiaries stories and high explosives. It took them forty two days to level every building at this point we had two choices. Klein says was to remain there. The ghetto was inflames. Already eighty the houses were burning in the ghetto. Life is very precious thing and we said well either we go or we burn right here. We went out. Climb the dozens of people people. She'd been in hiding with. Were taken to Majdanek another concentration camp for the act of not letting go of her young sons hand. Klein's mother was killed. Oh my God again. How fucking evil can be to kill a mother for refusing to let her sons or gopher son's hand as you're taking both of them to a concentration camp anyway I i? I hope these mother fuckers were haunted by some shit they did in the name of fighting to help a madman destroy the world. Her baby brother was killed. Two or father who would die soon thereafter separate from Kleiner under sister who a few weeks later were transported Auschwitz climbed believes that due to the fact that it was the end of April when she was found she must have been on one of the last transports out of the Warsaw auto soon after the uprising ended Nazi forces deported about forty. Two Thousand Jews. Almost everyone who remained thousands more been killed during the uprising. Compared to a dozen Germans killed during the initial fighting And they were taken to concentration camps or labor camps according to the US Holocaust Memorial Museum Klein's life was spared. She was put to work in in the camp when the war in Europe ended almost exactly two years later Kleiner sister had been on a months long death march after having been shipped from camp to camp with the allies closing in all along. She says she kept her spark of hope alive by promising herself that she would not be silent if she survived. Klein met her husband and other camp prisoner just after the camps were freed and she. She says that he started telling people about what he had been through of the day. He was liberated. She found the talking. About what you've seen with like reliving it and she ended up keeping most most of it inside wall wall staying quiet she made a new life in the US. I in Buffalo New York then in New York City. After her husband's death she and her sister another survivor still live near one. Another about seven years ago. Klein decided that story was too important. Not to share silence. She says meant it could happen again. And now participates in a program called witnessed theater which Pairs Holocaust survivors with high school students for a year long program during which the students meeting regularly with the survivors and therapists and drama teachers. Write a play to tell the survivor stories. I how fucking cool is that. What the kids talk about is that they take on the obligation says Greg Schneider Executive Vice President of the Claims Conference which supports the initiative is passing on this obligation to a new generation who then become the witnesses hail Nimrod? She doesn't tastic other people looking out truly comprehend what she went through. Klein says but at least they listen. Not The telling. The stories got an easier over the years. I sit here calm and collected she says. Do you think I'm going to sleep tonight. No Oh that's a small price to pay for what we are loved ones. Who if you buy some small miracle here this on you love you? Sorry about the bad jokes. Sorry sorry about at this sorry. Why Defense Mechanism Another survivor stanislaw. aaronson was one of the brave souls souls who fought the Nazis in the Warsaw uprising. This story my God born nineteen twenty five is a Polish Jew. Stanislaw survived the Warsaw ghetto losses family in the Holocaust survivor served served in a special operations unit of the Polish underground. The home army home army got fought in the Warsaw uprising of nineteen forty four. And here's an incredible message not recently share with the world. We're lucky to hear these words. He says I know what it means to be at the sharp end of European history and I fear that the battle to draw the right lessons. It's not time is in danger of being lost now. Ninety four years old and living in Tel Aviv. I've watched from afar in recent years as armchair patriots. That's that's aw man that's in the shade but like deserve Armchair Patriots. As Armchair Patriots made Poland have sought to exploit and manipulate the memories unreason experiences of my generation. They may think they're promoting national dignity or instilling pride in today's young people but in reality they are threatening to raise future generations in darkness. Ignorant of the wars complexity doomed to repeat the mistakes for which we paid such a high price given what I've learned over my lifetime I would. I urge urged future generations of Europeans. To remember my generation as we really were not as they may wish us to have been we had all the same vices and weaknesses. Today's as young people do most of us were neither heroes nor monsters. Of course many people did extraordinary things but in most cases only because they were forced to buy extreme circumstances stances and even then true heroes were very few and far between I do not count myself among them. The same applies to those who failed in their moral obligations during that time. Of course there were many who committed unspeakable unforgivable crimes but it is nonetheless important to understand that we were a generation living in fear and fear makes people do terrible things unless you felt it you cannot truly understand it I mean I love that point Love the compassion. These actually sharing here For Nazi may fear makes people do terrible things manner. Stand as much as I cannot haven't been through any of this shit and then he says second just as there is no such thing as a heroic generation adoration there is no such thing as a heroic nation or indeed an inherently maligned or evil nation. Either I must confess that for much of my life. I maintain the view that it was important for polls to feel pride in their wartime record leading me when recounting my experiences serving in the home army in Warsaw under Nazi occupation to omit certain examples samples of indifference and uncooperativeness on behalf of my fellow Poles. It is only in recent years as I've seen that pride turned into self righteousness and that self righteousness into self pity and aggression. That have realized just how wrong it was not to be completely open about the failings. I witnessed the truth. Is that as a pole. And as a Jew as a soldier in as refugee I experienced a wide spectrum of behavior at the hands of pulse from those who sheltered me at risk to their own lives to those who sought to take advantage of my vulnerability and all possible shades of concern indifference in between. And although the Third Reich destroyed my world it was German woman who saved my life by introducing using me to the men who would recruit me into the Polish underground. No nation has a monopoly on virtue. Something that many people including many of my fellow Israeli citizens Still struggled to understand. Wow listen to the fucking wisdom. This dudes dropping our asses right now. No nation has a monopoly on virtue. Don't be the nationalistic. You should write. Your country has good people and bad people making you know people making good choices. People making bad choices and that's true for every nation on earth and it always will be forever and always right and then stanislaw drop even more important knowledge and wisdom saying third. Do not underestimate the destructive the power of lies when the war broke out in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine. My family fled East and settled for a couple of years in Soviet occupied Loyal or it's it's like L. W. O. W. now hell in western Ukraine. The city was full of refugees and rumors were swirling about mass deportations nations to Gulags in Siberia and Kazakhstan to calm the situation. A Soviet official gave a speech declaring that the rumors were false. Nowadays they would be called fake news and that anyone spreading them would be arrested. Two days later the deportations to gulags began and thousands were sent to their deaths those people and millions of others including not my immediate family were killed by lies. My country and much of the continent was destroyed by lies and lies threaten. Not only the memory of those times but also the achievements events that have been made since. Today's generation doesn't have the luxury of being able to argue that it was never warned or did not understand the consequences of where lies can take you. Confronting lies sometimes means confronting difficult truths about oneself and one's own country. It is much easier to forgive yourself and condemn another than the other way round but but this is something that everyone must do. I have made my peace with modern Germany and hope that all Europeans can do the same God. Dang and don't want yeah don't whitewash history and I understand that life is gray not black and white gosh so much so much amazing true guys. This is like the third time I've read this and it's still just like wow finally do not ever imagine that your world cannot collapse is ours. Did this may seem the most obvious lesson to be passed down but only because it is the most important one moment I was enjoying enjoying an idyllic adolescence in my home city of woods and the next we were on the run I would only returned by empty home five years later. No longer a carefree boy but a Holocaust survivor. A home army veteran. Living in fear of Stalin's secret police. The I ended up moving to what was then the British mandate of Palestine fighting in a war of independence for a Jewish homeland. And I didn't even know I had. Perhaps it is because I was only a child that I did not notice the storm clouds that were gathering but I believe that many who were older and wiser than me at that time. Time also shared by child-like state. If disaster comes you will find that all the myths you once cherished or of no use to you you will see what it is like to live in a society. Immorality has collapsed causing all your assumptions and prejudices to crumble before your eyes and after it's all over you will watch it slowly but surely these harshest of lessons Are Forgotten as the witnesses pass on new myths. Take their place balk. I love this dude right. We can't let new mistake to place. That's what we're GONNA fight hi to fuck it into the internet which I don't have in this show by the way is so heavy all the videos I was looking at I was thinking about which is just such pieces. She it just it was just the same note Over didn't happen racist raises raises to psycho. I Today de sorry this week but anyway the student. If by some miracle you can hear this can you. Can you please be another GRANDPA for me or my spiritual adviser I'll carry around piggyback style. Whatever you WanNa do I can lay down in mud? Puddles can step me when he crossed feet wet. Whatever you fucking nate? Just tell me more stories. Give me more wisdom are you Nimrod wow man don't let new mistake your place keep telling these stories. Stanislaw is a book on Amazon called years of turmoil. Read it and now for one. Last tale of a Warsaw ghetto survivor. Now Eighty eight years old. The last remaining member of her family Christina would Nigga has made it her mission to recount how she survived the Warsaw ghetto in order to keep her loved ones memories alive she told The Times of Israel in April of two thousand eighteen eighteen. I lost all six brothers. My sister my parents as well as four sister-in-law's I was left alone. Christina remembers how the Nazis used tactics tactics demoralized the Jewish population before they killed him she witnesses with their own father saying one day in the street. The Germans cut off his beard just to amuse themselves. They started dancing around him. He came back home completely demoralized. He lost his will to live to fight on right with those do just following orders fuck now bites. They'll do live. The life have constant nightmares if they did survive the war. Her brother's picked up the burden of caring for a family. After for Dad get after her dad gave up skilled manual labor. The began earning money by I building. Hideouts I for valuables then for people themselves. Her family managed to evade the Germans several times. Thanks to these hideouts one was a kind of invisible trap door that allowed them. Descend directly to a basement another ventilation duct hidden behind a shelf. Two brothers ended up getting captured. During Raids Incentive Treblinka to save her family. Her remaining brothers built a bunker complete with drinking water electricity and a tunnel to the sewers leading from the ghetto. Under Warsaw into the rest of the city men and genius. We already knew we were sentenced to die. She said this was our only chance for survival. We didn't have connections or money or the right look. We had no chance to save ourselves in the area and part of the city. The whole family descended ascended into a bunker January forty three they stay down there for nine months. She says that time I lived in a state of lethargic. It was like my vital functions since were shut off. My body was functioning only survive. She described the fires of the Germans. Final Attempt to liquidate the ghetto and Dr Survivors. She said the whole ghetto was aflame. It was like one big oven and then this release with the uprising. were or but Nicholas remaining brothers left for battle when it became too hot because the fire the remaining family members descend into the sewers but the Germans found out started tossing and gas bombs. The only one left who knew the layout of the sewers with my thirteen year old brother but he was a man already. He was the one who directed us. And who saved my life. Her exhausted parents insist decided to stay. Put in the sewer and wait for help. It never came but nick her brother and a stepsister. A sister in law managed to emerge from the sewers. I with help from an underground Polish Jewish Liberation Organization. The took them in her younger brothers. Sadly died of Sepsis two weeks later another brother. A member member of the resistance was handed over to the Nazi Germany in nineteen forty four by a Polish person who also portrayed his father after the war twelve year old but Nigga the last surviving family member her was put in an orphanage. Jesus she later became a special education. Needs teacher for years. Tried to leave for memories behind it was only after the children of the Holocaust Association was created in one thousand nine hundred one that she changed her mind. I told myself that is by sharing. What happened that? I honor those who died. She says as long as we're talking about it there's still alive La aw who holy shit man teared up a bunch of knows For the first time I know it's a weird episode of drop of the holidays but God damn and let let remind you hold on your loved ones tight. You never know what tomorrow auto brings in the late thirty s and for half of the forty s man tomorrow brought Benico whole lot of pain and death today. She's doing great she's inspiring others. How amazed is that talents? Racial National. She didn't let all of that. Breaker fucking Superhero. She's an inspiration. The Nazis took everything from her they couldn't crusher spirit. The Warsaw Ghetto is horrific and hellish is was it only represented a small fraction of the total pain brought about by the Holocaust the final total of the Holocaust around six million Jews who were murdered by the Nazis ABC's as well as millions of others including Gypsies homosexuals more. The word Holocaust comes from the Greek words hollows whole Costas burned the Nazis burnt so many dark tailed today for Sherbert. Inspiring one minute survivors. I just talked about think of what they overcame thinking about the horrors. We just talked about people lost their entire fucking families people. Aw Death Day. After day for years the starved right. The death of their families friends and neighbors after all that still live long productive lives found meaning found found. Don Love found hope they find the courage to tell their stories to future generations. What can you overcome? I seems like it seems like almost damn near anything right so overcome. We're come find the light in your life is holiday season. Enjoy whatever life you have to live right now We're we're also reminded yet again right. How quickly life can go away with his suck? How quickly others can and cheapen it now? If you need a book to feel better over the holidays if you WanNa have give somebody else a great gift of Hope Man Order Viktor. Frankl's man's search for me. It's my favorite book of all time time. I've read it twice. I'm starting to read for third time both times order before I read it when I've gone through some minor mental struggles my own. My mental machinery is. I'm sure you've figured out if you listen to this podcast. Hi Catherine length of time. A long way from finely tuned right. Remember this book helped me the only GonNa play this. A little bit does make me happy so Saturday. Ridden nineteen forty six. The book chronicles Victor's experiences as a Jewish prisoner Nazi concentration camps during World War. Two it describes the PSYCHOTHERAPEUTIC method he developed from those experiences based on the hope for better days ahead involves identifying a purpose in life to feel positive about and then immersive -ly imagining the positive outcome. According to Frankel when Camp Prisoners in concentration camps would lose. Hope they would die. So don't die. Don't lose hope. Twenty twenty could be the best year your fucking life. Hail Nimrod time for top five takeaways high number one The suffering together was extreme and conditions deteriorated rapidly at its height more than four hundred and fifty thousand people crammed into an area of one point three square miles miles in some buildings. As many as twenty people living in a single room before the death camp roundups about one hundred thousand people died of starvation sickness and just maltreatment it number to anyone caught trying to leave. The ghettos were shot and non-jewish Poles caught helping Jews were killed along with their families along with their families. Ace Evil number three. The Nazi's began terminate to isolate and control the Jewish population than their plans shifted into the final solution which resulted in a massive massive attempting to radically an entire people. Evil creates more evil. That damn slippery slope right started dehumanize someone things can go real quickly from this round them up and senator Madagascar Outta gas card to. Let's fuck and kill them all number four Treblinka the most infamous concentration camp for the Warsaw captives within ten weeks. Three hundred and ten thousand people murdered at one location location. Nearly a million total people put to death in the six gas chambers of Treblinka between July forty-two in October of forty three number. Five New Info. Some I'm to feel good about it. This dark episode Denmark the only European country to save almost all of his Jewish residents from the Holocaust after being tipped off by imminent roundups rebound about imminent roundups by prominent Nazis resistors evacuated. The country's nearly eight thousand Jews to Sweden by boat left at night thousands of Jewish families set now by CAR Bicycle Streetcar Train. Excuse me they left. Danish cities had long called home and fled to the countryside. They found shelter in the homes of friends or business. Partners squatted it in abandoned summer homes or spent the night with hospital. Farmers hospitable farmers. The Danes provided no assistance to the Nazis and their Jewish campaign in Denmark they viewed the Jews as Danes. Anes and place them under their protection in the end. Seven thousand seven hundred forty. Two Jews were able to flee to Sweden across the Baltic Sea each of the refugees received government support court in Sweden if it was needed the Danish government. Also advocated on behalf of those who have been deported and after negotiations with Heinrich Himmler four hundred and twenty three Danes released from a concentration camp in early nineteen. Forty five did not expect that little humor with their second. Backup Basil reasonable. I just I just wanted. I'd go the cheese Danish I just awesome DANISHES and maybe ice giants superpower. But if you if you just give me the dangers I just I give the Jews back to you. So how many Danish Jews were killed by the Nazis an estimated seventy a seventy two many but also one percent of the country's Jewish population the time Poland by comparison lost over ninety percent of the Jewish population so not everybody just followed order. Some resisted some fought back Hail motherfucking Nimrod time away who the Warsaw ghetto uprising. Right the Jews fought the fuck back. It's been sucked. I hope you're touching inspired. Maybe got a couple of laughs in there amongst all the darkness big. Thanks the types of team. Thanks to the Queen is Suck Lindsey Cummins high priest of the Harmony Village Camp Reverend Dr Paisley the bid Elixir APP design crew. The merch artists formerly known own is access to peril despic- club research intern. Sophie fact sources Evans descript keeper. Zach flannery next week end the decade recap also Alumini saw kind of TB topic. Not Sure I'm sucking on on the thirtieth I think about it a bit more. Most podcasts shutdown. Least Week if not around the holidays not us. I can abandon you but going to do a different kind of suck next week gonNA reflect on how life has changed with this project. What is behind the scenes what we hope to do in two thousand twenty hope enjoy it and then we back to a regular type of suck you know I suck at two thousand twenty kicking off some true crime because the space have wilted what Nimrod Watts of you want some more community during the holidays. Check out the cult of the curious private facebook group If you want some you know added holiday interactional deepen even more members you can go to the discord channel access. That'd be the time so gap. We've got fifteen thousand cult members roughly in the private facebook group. Forty seven hundred die-hard suckers and discord. Now let's let's move on up. Let's let's let's get to move on with the time sucker updates right come on. Do you mean a better yet. Okay hard to be sad right now with the song moments on this on everybody Move on good meaty matches Thank you I'm ready now and let's do it day in times. Update they got some great updates as usual today. I is a nasty related update from anonymous meet sacks to premium rights headmaster sucker. I feel like I'm entered some some different whack a doodle dimension on instagram account. There was a picture of a Nazi soldiers hanging out the cat. I was dumb enough to comment that I thought pictures that are important view because it shows how these young men were. We're just young men into the Nazis taught them to hate. Apparently that was wrong. I am judgmental. Stereotyping poor misunderstood dude and German soldier gear. I have no right to make assumptions about him and what he was taught got. Apparently I'm told almost all the soldiers forced into service. There was only a small handful of Nazis. Everyone else was just confused. Afraid what the fucking fuck are people supposed most to get pass on exterminating other people. Because he's suppose you didn't know what was going on is it okay go off and kill someone else. Because you're afraid of being killed yourself. No one had the tiniest clue could none of them read the masses of propaganda. Nazis put out on the regular basis. Their children attended Nazi youth camps. What did they not tell their parents what was going on if all those people people were forced to join the Nazis if all had refused would there have been anyone to crush across Europe exterminating and destroying? I read this poem in school. Many years ago I I they came for the Socialists and I did not speak out because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unions unionise and I did not speak out because I was not a a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews. I did not speak out because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me and there was no no one left to speak for me. The poignant are people just trying to excuse the fact that they're not speaking up for immigrant families in cages now are Refer back to that poem America or they secretly Nazi sympathizers or is it something else. I'm missing I thought we could all agree. Nazis were out there. Doing really fucked up stuff. But now it seems like there weren't any real Nazis Aziz. I can't help but think of the family. Guy With Germany's yelling. Everyone was on vacation or am I. An idiot of the Internet wasn't taught correctly. It's possible I'm willing to accept that better better. Leave my name off if you read this. I didn't write it. I was on vacation will amazing message. Well written anonymous Awesome Meets Act. No I don't think German soldiers gonNA pass now be judged not at all. We're a lot of them afraid of the consequences to say no. I'm sure I'm sure there were real consequences consequences of the death. Then maybe their families did a lot of them though also hate Jews. Fuck yeah think about what we just learned about European culture regarding antisemitic leanings. But did they have to know because a lot of other people didn't who raised that same environment knowing should we not judge judge. That's fucking stupid. Their actions were horrific pressured or not afraid or not and we don't judge those actions. I think we're more than likely to repeat them. Once you go to this mental place. Who says you can't judge 'cause you weren't there pretty soon? No one is responsible for fucking anything already beats his wife because his dad his mom not his fault Blues Kids College on in Gambling Addiction. Not His fault couldn't help it. He did those kids because he was born pedophile. Not His fault right. All those immigrants didn't WanNA put in cages. They shouldn't have fucking fled fucking a horrific poverty and tried to make a better life for their fucking family. Get the fuck Outta here with that shit anyone's fault you know. You're I'm not wrong. My book anonymous. Oh man worked man this episodes in my head human nature to judge. I think it's healthy. I think you know I think I should be judged you should be judged we should all be judged we also all be forgiven when come to our senses for most shit at least Some of the things you know the Nazis did some of those guys fucking you. Can you can give forgiven in the next next world. If there is one I struggle with where that line is you know how far is too far but we should. Yeah we should be judged man Hill Nimrod Sane Person Saint in my book not entity in my book happy holidays okay next up kick ass meat sack Lisa documents a found a home and it's right here this makes me feel so good. Hail Nimrod. Lisa writes hello. Hello Danube beautiful meat sack first. Time has lever loyal spaces. At least doc. It's all thanks for spaces from when Nazi Washington just wanted to say I was at your e. He'll kids live show in Tacoma December. Seventh seventh. Never had so much fun. Oh my Gosh Dang life this may be a little long but in case you read this on your show. I'm going for it. I'm a fifty six year old. Grandma raised my granddaughter now. Four years old since since birth due to my son and girlfriends addiction. I'm also divorced so I'm virtually in literally a single mom anyway. My coworker saw my weirdness potential told me I should listen to strange podcast. Broadcast called time suck never listened to a podcast before but I was intrigued. I became obsessed in caught up in surpassed him listening to every episode secret suck. I've never felt more accepted and relieved because my personality has always been pretty dark or lean towards dark humor. I've never really fitting with most people and also fuck is probably my favorite word. So I met met you. After the show and Tacoma this month on the seventh I was short woman with the super tall younger dude. My coworker now. My boy friend from work and his birthday is this Friday the twentieth. I was hoping you could give him a happy birthday. Shout out that would mean so much to him and me. It'll be the best gift I could give him. Forgive me gets time suck saved my sanity also feel invalidated. Dave being the dark humored person I am so my coworkers name is Stuart Utley and he's an amazing physical therapist spaces and friend. Happy Birthday from you and Chiquillo would truly be the big deal. What is being stored? I saw miss your birthday. Sorry the message a little bit late. He'll Nimrod Lisa. Soak Yourself. Sam Cox together love you can be yourself your real self around us and other closed curious members let that fuck and freak flag fly Lisa. Yeah Throw Oh some folks out there. I can't stand people who can't stand the word. Fuck get out of here fuck and put yourself in a bubble fucking pansy. Keep darkened weird. Get that boy to if you want one Hale Nimrod Camila Safina and happy holidays now important message from Laura. I decided to keep her last name out. Lower Mother fucking awesome sack writes dear master sucker Dan the emails deeply overdue taking me a while to sit down and construct honest words convey my feelings and thoughts. I want to thank you for episode. One forty five Joseph Frizzell. Despite how difficult the go-to research must have been. I can tell you executed it with honorable. Care I'd heard about the case for several years was timidly curious to learn more about it but too afraid to take the plunge while listening to talk to my heart. How trapped Elizabeth felt? I also come from a history of sexual and mental abuse by my father other parental male figures. I can relate to the feelings of hopelessness powerless system. Fear just to name a few. My experience was nowhere close to her level of abuse. I'm quite aware of that. However I believe most people endure any kind of sexual and mental abuse? All feel the the same way trapped in hopeless. What I got out of that episode is don't ever give up saying it's always darkest before the Dawn? It feels a lot of the time. The things won't change change get better improved. Somehow situation looks bleak all-too-familiar without feeling and the thought process one can find themselves getting wrapped up in. Sometimes the pitch-black darkness lasts a long time. But it will eventually pass. The Sun will inevitably rise. Thank you for sharing her story. I think about her every so often since that episode. I hope her and her children are happy. Be that those who are feeling hopeless right now hold onto the inner strength that Elizabeth clutched onto and that one day see for themselves that things really better very made sack sincerely yours than Laura are will. Thank you Laura. I so sorry some Shitty guys said a shitty example of how a man can treat a woman like an object. Surely We know this. We're not all pieces of shit. Not totally weird for a second. I'm Horny Dude. I mean she came from me but I can view my wife. Lindsey object to my physical desires as more than just a body. Now we can all do that. We don't have lots of sex healthy sex not be fucking piece of Shit and hurt people and yes I to think about Elizabeth our family from time to time and hope they're doing so so well thanks for sharing your story just like her story inspires you. I bet your stories can inspire others find that light. Look for the darkness. Remember it with the darkness surrounds you. It's kind of theme today right. Hope hope in the darkness love Laura next up kick ass meet SEC Hunter Lutsky with some nice reminders reminders. Hunter writes master sucker. Your spaces Hunter Luedecke there. You go thanks for the pronunciation guide. I recently have gone back. Listen to you your first few times. sucks just to do some catch up during part one of the JFK assassination. You'd mentioned the Jackie Kennedy was crawling out of the back of the Lincoln to escape. What you thought was to be her fate? Sadly that's not true. I know there's different opinions on this. No she's reaching for part of her husband's scalp. There was rolling off the truck and limousine wanted catered wife. She's a recently went to Arlington National Cemetery in DC. You see this last year. And yes I got a little ticky. I'd seen the graveside of this man and his family. I don't know if you've got an update on that regarding Jackie. Just you might find it interesting as I did. I'm about two months wants bojangles balls deep into the suck and listened to well over half as I have eight hours a day to listen fucking love your content lean towards trump. Throw the stones. But I'm telling you that because there it hasn't been one time so far that you have even with the gun control and immigration sucks you keep it neutral. It's it's unbelievable and yes. Even with Pizza Gate. I was ashamed to some of these. Republicans spreading lies about people especially with horrific accusations. Certainly doesn't look good when they call the dams liars and cheats. I have very liberal standings. Not so arrogant to stick with just one aside and once I'd only with every single belief. Excuse me if if a Democratic candidate made more sense out vote for them. That's how it should be a hate extremists on both sides. I have plenty of liberal friends. We share healthy disagreements by never speaking one another again. Jk but in the world's so torn. I'm glad that I found a podcast. That is so chill. Love Your stand-up podcast. And sweet sweet merch coach Fan for life your man. Thanks for the end. This research to make awesome shows so with my brother and fellow space hazard surf along message. Hope you have time to read it. Hey ilise Davina Hill. Nimrod Praiseworthy Tangles. Hunter I love Hunter. You beautiful logical bastard. Yeah Man I Lina I I like it I I can lean both ways you know I like I like how you lean. Republican Lean Democrat lean towards trump. That's that's you know some people that's fine felines with certain policies and values that you have sound the reasons for having you know I. I don't like trump but I bet you and I would get along and I don't like a lot of people in left to before people are what the fuck a lot of mine alike struggle with politics in general I there's some good ones but fucking struggle with the whole system. I need to educate myself more on that Glad you had fun in Tacoma. Glad you're thinking critically made more that Hail Nimrod and happy holidays next up Vanessa Walker with the great subject. Line the impact. Your show is made Vanessa. Rights Hail Nimrod appraise beater bojangles huge fan of suck member of the coach curious facebook group. I have my own cloak but had it before the Colt also live depression anxiety. PTSD plus my husband's in the hospital. All for typhus. Yeah typhus needless to say this has been a difficult year for me. The one constant is getting to listening time suck a Wednesday last week. There was a real possibility I was going to be a widow. Oh by thirty one and there you were talking about Stanley yesterday on. I didn't think he'd be home by Christmas. I belly laughed about here in about a Heinrich Himmler being called a racist. Ding Dong it was the first time I laughed and days. Thanks for the show scour through the darkest times. Give me a reason to hang on if I LOSE MY MIND IF I lose my mind I I can't listen to next week suck. Oh I'm so looking forward to it. Merry Christmas Happy Happy Saturnalia Cetera. Have that stuck in my head and prays Alexander Fleming Vanessa. I saw one glad when NASA Vanessa thank you a Master's Tacoma Ding Dong. I seem excessive. I just wanted to find the magic. From my castles. Maybe learn to talk with my mind. List is giants nobody votes but thank you seriously. Happy Holidays Hope. Two Thousand Twenty kick some fucking Dick off two thousand nineteen last up Johnny Johnny Dylan wa Johnny Dylan you like someone just walked over your grave. Sorry Johnny tubes don't reference Hippie Johnny Awesome Meets acurite subject in the mind of a killer then writes all right. This is going to be really long email. But I'm not sorry because the colts curious as like me. Then they love this portion of the show the most. Why master stuck my name is Oh my name. Is John Sorenson. I don't know why Johnny Dylan showed up. must've show of some email. Maybe I don't know whether showed up at the top there but John Schwartz said Okay Miami. My name is John Source and I would like to show the impact influence. You've had them a young life of twenty one years old and about to be twenty two on December thirty first happy birthday also sorry for the unstructured this email. I've terrible ADHD. I just kind of throw. It was going on in my mind. So I don't forget I relate now my story that you have improved by an unthinkable amount. I'm I'm not GonNa go through my whole childhood but give you a legitimate. According to Your Homeless Sucks Definition of homelessness homeless twice heading a drunken had a drunken abusive father mentally and physically more mentally mentally though mom was good but she has her own quirks like we always do. I battled depression and anxiety since I was four years old. Now you know some background. I'll tell you what happened in my life the last two years. And how. You've you've helped allow also no pity for me please. Sloppy with bojangles big Commie Hayden balls. Okay so the start of two thousand eighteen. My Best Friend's grandmother dies which was my grandmother? I was more part of his family than my own. He actually how a house me when everyone left then my dog of twelve years or so died at a know oh where he felt on the stairs OB- lodged. I'm sorry about all of it I don't want. The dog is more lodge dormant tumor in his lower back. Paralyzing lower-half his body organs and all headed carry out of the car taking to the vet to kill him. He was shitting pissing uncontrollably. He was a Kurdish Kangol. If you WANNA look at what's breed. I did their huge. He was illegal in USOC. All right next death the one that really fucked me up. My friend died in a bike accident on July thirteenth was Friday luminosity music. Yeah he was my best friend and a lot of times. The only only when I had since I was five years old. I don't even like calling my best friend. Do as my brother few days later my neighbor dies out of nowhere. Jesus that everyone was quiet for a few months until September October over when Obama first car that Subaru hatchback with one hundred ninety six thousand miles for two thousand five hundred dollars three weeks. Having this car the head gasket blows works my engine block. The repair is going to be three grand but ended the car so I start working overtime. Try Given the second job and selling drugs. Also this time I was sleeping. Maybe one to ten hours a week. Nightmares flooded my brain with tyler. My best friend that died in my car of under so much stress. I barely got enough money to get it. Fixed like fifty bucks left for bills and Shit February of two thousand nineteen. My boss of a very small company dies out of nowhere actually the day after the Patriots won the Super Bowl. He was the biggest patriots. Fan Out there. Maybe he died from over joint. Will this put the whole company in shambles. Abel's honestly thought that I'd be out of a job. The job by the way as me being an infrared sensor engineer which is not a common job to find the company to this day is still shaky but stable enough stable stable enough for me to work. So that's good next couple of months I have one of my aunts die That I wasn't at all close with but it still sucks a well and then a month or so. Afterwards another one of my aunt dies too. I was close with. They were both deaths. We were expecting but it's still sucks. She was fifty years old and died because heroin ruined her life. She has three kids. Eighteen twenty one and thirty years years old next up right up my street somebody hits another person head on like one hundred feet from my house. They probably died instantly. Rushed to the hospital a month after it get on a bike did definitely died for Jesus. Christ fuck grim reaper. Next door I know these moments don't seem to affect my situation but it seems like death follows me triggered my PTSD. Around this time. I started listening to time suck. Initially I was only interested in the serial killers because I kind want to be one. I'll explain more later on then. I fell in love with the colty curious. And how we all go on things and then there's still happiness and people and all that shit even though it's hard to find it for myself growing communities been amazing. I went through. Listen to every facing website about three episodes of day. Well it worked my head quiet. I became a space is at the end of August. Started listening to the secret suck episode trying to catch up on everything. Holy Shit. Rereading this is is the fucking best. That's his mind will good luck and understanding any of this. Laugh my ass off the Wacko noodle now all right now that I kind of told you about the stuff that has happened last two years let me tell you about about the serial killer things and some guests and you wonder about that. Ll So yeah. I'm in the middle of all this death and I became dead inside trump feeling empathy for others. No matter what the situation I laugh horrible shit think of how lifeless bodies dancing could be hilarious but my main target. That would get these thoughts going where people I would feel. That had it easy. I was just so angry. Greeted the World Shit. I forgot to tell you also became an alcoholic a week after tyler died. Sorry yeah with so intensely angry at the world scene no good one is just kill people to ruin their days in their families. Because I was angry I feel like if I can't have anyone in my life. Why should you thankfully don't feel like that anymore because of you this thing you're doing with time so because amazing you're putting dedicated time into making content? You enjoy makes me enjoy. It doesn't even matter if I care about the topic. I see you as the father I wish at all man a sweet dude again. I'm terribly sorry about how this Camila structured. I'm at work. I'm just typing because I know if I put this off any longer I'll never send it will do to love you. Hold him allowed to still be part of the security space and come to your show in Boston keep on suck and fuck. Yeah you are. Yeah thanks John Man. Glad you're not murder. Anyone always shit man. What a rough ride you've had? Jesus your strongest Fox to come out all that with with a good sense of humor like you've done so bravo man Hale Nimrod to your update fell pertinent this This week suck so glad this show in the coal to help you so much. I hope you have the best holiday fucking. Ever owed start dating a NYMPHOMANIAC. Who's also masseuse and award winning chef and CEO who owns a summer home in Morocco? Love Love you too man. I hope hope to do that. Hope Two thousand twenty blows you like every day sucks it just minds the boss stop now. He'll button thanks times. We all did. Thanks for listening everybody. Happy holidays. Merry Christmas happy. Whatever else you're celebrating? Don't try to open up death camps. Don't be racist because it's super dumb every time and you know fucking keep on sucking doc in a fucking hate that guys had.
Zofia Wichacz Adds Fire To Kasia's Grief
"This episode is sponsored by Viking Viking offers. An all new custom-built ocean fleet designed to bring the traveler closer to the destination with all Verandah state rooms and assure excursion included in every port. Viking by river and by C. Learn more at Viking cruises dot com. I'm Jay Sleigh COBB and you're listening to masterpiece studio in a shaky prewar Warsaw. Caution Tomasco. Mary's her foolhardy British boyfriend. Harry Chase only to throw her baby brother. Yon On the departing train to save him. Take care of him. Okay Albion if you love me you will take on later. Caution puts her life on the line joins the Polish resistance fighting to keep her invaded country. Safe from the Nazis. Hey I've asked you a question Let her go. She doesn't want to answer. Your question. Perhaps should just think virgin so it wouldn't really understand her so Zofia V. Guac knew. She was taking on tough roll when she read. Peter bowker scripts for world on fire. But it's a challenge. She readily embraced particularly for the opportunity. To bring to life Poland's often untold story in the greater drama of World War Two. It's freedom dignity. Everything's taken away from her. So she really. She's fighting to win those things back. We spoke with the up and coming Polish about prewar. Poland swing dancing with Gina Howard King and what further troubles await her Kasha? This week we are joined by world on fire star Zofia Vegan. Yes or Viet Lee. So I do WANNA ask What was your initial. Take on the character of Kasha when you first auditioned for the role. Yeah well I only got the casting process. It was fairly long like right now. I just remember it was like the longest and the most challenging casting process. I've ever been to and then I think I read the just the first episode or the first episode. So I already knew that this girl is interesting. I mean by the end of the episode. One the scene at the train station kind of over the defines the character. You know that she's not putting herself I she. She's the kind of person that she cares deeply about her family. And that's why she. She does what she does on the train at the train station and then in the episode to she goes through hell basically and then. She joins the resistance. So when I was casting for this part I already knew well. Great 'cause maybe maybe on the casting is just the scenes with Harry and you know from the beginning where they're in love and it's all about the romance and and and being young and happy and but then wow there are so many emotional scenes and such journey to this character so I thought to myself. Oh Wow okay I wanna I wanNA play her. I definitely WANNA play her. It gets dark. Yes it's dark it gets sorry. Yes Peter Bowker in the script. Doesn't overtly described Kasha in the first episode. She's a young woman Did that give you the opportunity to infuse your own? Inspirations into developing this early prewar version of the character that we see at the beginning. Yes for sure I really felt like I had so much space in terms of creating her own in their world. For example I found this great Jewish Polish poet from that time I mean she wrote this beautiful very modern at that time in my opinion poetry very feminine and very Funny as well. Her name is Zan Tonka and I tried to create this world of Culture. Like for example. I learned about Warsaw that time. What was it like? What what what kind of city was where would cash take Harry for for a date or you know all the cafes and theaters and Places where you could go and see a cabaret or a show or there were plenty of a war so was full of such places before the war so it was a very vivid city and also that was something also that I felt like I could really I can just do my own research and really create her world. Just I had this great space. You know I like doing that. Creating my own worlds for my characters. It's funny you mention the the Warsaw that we see in the first episode. It's very different from what most Americans associated were saw. Its vibrant. It's beautiful. It's full of using art. And what research did you do in terms of prewar Warsaw and the sort of cosmopolitan city that it was yes? Well I watch documentaries. I read about the city itself and I knew a lot about Warsaw from my other research that I did for a first feature film I ever did was nineteen forty four and this film tells the story of Warsaw uprising in nineteen forty four so I already knew the story of the city which in nineteen forty four was basically a destroyed in ninety something percent so I remembered some stuff from the research. I did a few years ago for that movie. And then I did additional research in terms of things like you mentioned like a music or places with Thaad or Idaho museums or cafes or stuff like this when we first see cash at the beginning episode one. She herself seemed so full of hope. And Life Much more saw itself for the war How do these first? Two episodes of world on fire change her as a character. Oh has those. Two first episodes change her completely. 'cause I always saw Kasha as a fighter you know I of course. She joins the Polish resistance. So she yes. She's a fighter in terms of fighting for her country and for her freedom but her goal doesn't have to be necessarily surviving at some point because she's so dead inside at some point in the series. It's about winning back some things that she's lost or some people that she still loves. Who are out there somewhere. And she can still somehow hug. Get them back in her life. So it's freedom dignity. Everything's taken away from her. So she really. She's fighting to win those things back when I think about the family photograph With Harry cautious seems to be blissfully. Happy don't say what what did he say that. It's a Leica german-made when it clicks the shutter. Perhaps we should all doc. It's a moment of pure happiness that all of these people are captured in amber. What does Harry Represent to Kasha? What does he mean to her? Well I think I always thought of cash as does vary Ahead of her times character. A little like she's independent. She's working as a waitress in Warsaw. 'cause it's summer and probably she's dreaming of studying and maybe abroad so when she meets. Harry a thing she probably saw in him kind of maybe a chance to go somewhere and see a different culture and different country and of course back then traveling. Wasn't that easy and wasn't that office. I think also for people she's in love with Harry and I think she's very passionate about going somewhere and learning about different cultures and countries. So that's very interesting for her in him as well but they have a real connection thing and as we always talked about their relationships in rehearsals or something. We always thought that yeah. They probably met somewhere probably at the cafe where she's where she works or somewhere. In Warsaw engages had the greatest summer of their lives just falling in love and in the summer and were when the city is so fiber. And like you said and vivid and with the family catcher has. He's very grounded I think with. She's got a great family. Supportive Dad and two brothers and mom. Who's a bit afraid of everything I guess but she's just Very vulnerable probably but Kasha. I think she loves her family deeply. So that's why we can see her in the scene. We can see this pure happiness and I think I really wanted to to do it for the audience to see that because it's the only moment in the series probably see only moment where we can see how this great place in her life that she's right now in in this great place and it's all GonNa go away in the second. I do love the fact that we get to see a happy Harry and Kasha in verse episode. Yes the dancing in the episode in particular to me shows how in love these two are. I love that you liken it to summer. Romance the two because it does seem very carefree and Blyth Despite the fact that Harry has a girlfriend Britain. Well cash doesn't know that she doesn't have What did you make of the the dance scene in that first episode and of their relationship there As I said like with the scene with the photograph it was again. The scene with the dens saying it was really important to establish in those very first seconds their relationship and we had so much fun on sat when I remember now I- filming of the scene and preparing for the scene because we took some dance classes like we. It was so much fun and I already knew that okay. This is like one of those two or three scenes where she can be truly happy carefree in love and I personally I wanted to have fun on set and to really enjoy that too because I knew that after this. It's just going to be tougher. Did you shoot that early on yet? Dancing Oh yes I remember. We should that in November already. It was so hot like in. We were in Czech Republic but I all over Europe. It was two. We're heat wave or something and I'm just wearing a shirt and skirt in the scene and we were filming in the evening and it was still pretty okay for me to. I wasn't freezing and it was November. But it was pretty unusual for November in Europe To be that worm so we had so much fun and the weather was perfect and filming. This was truly truly amazing immediately. After the bombing Harry's thrown through the window into the CAFE AND PROPOSES MARRIAGE TO KASHA HUMOR. Make there's a sense of desperation to the scene but also unexpected humor. What did you what was your take on this sequence in the the sort of comedic element to it? It is quite a funny scene. Yes it is because Kasha. I'm sure she doesn't take him seriously at the very first second and then she's like what you're serious probably after the scene. Oh there is a scene you know right after the word they talk and it's suddenly serious but the moment where there was an explosion and he proposed she. Of course it's funny and maybe she would say yes when you know it so unbelievable weird They've known each other probably for. I know three months or something so yeah but it is good. I loved filming this as well because again. It's this rare moment where the humor might be so it was nice to little glimpse just a tiny glimpse of it yet. Harry describes his proposal as an English solution. She can leave with him and then they can get her family out later and Kasha hesitates and what's behind her hesitation there and does she know that leaving would mean their deaths. Well I think so. The Situation Looks. Looks like this For cash haired Dad and her brother. They're already in dense cake fighting. She doesn't know yet that there might be dead. They might be. They might survived. She doesn't know she cannot get any information from anywhere and then there is her mom who's not in. She's not well she's just terribly afraid of her husband and her son and there is the brother so cash escaping with Harry she hesitates. Because it's obviously it's like. Oh so I don't care about them and I'm going to leave the rest of my family in Warsaw which is like probably going to be bombed even more and Yeah Yeah I'll go and be happy with my husband. No I guess yeah she she has the really thing about it and and I think she does know until the very last moment she of course she would love to go and be safe and be with the man she loves but then is her family. It's hair family versus men. She loves but she sh- I duNno. She's in love with him for a few months so she feels like she has to stay in protect her family before this next question. A brief word from our sponsors won't castles and Cathedrals Vineyards and vistas. Viking is dedicated to bringing the traveler closer to the destination along the great rivers of Europe offering a small ship experience but the shore excursion included in every port learn more at Viking cruises dot com. I do love the twist at the end of the first episode Instead of getting on the train with Harry Kasha puts her brother. Yan on the train with him at the last second Was this premeditated. Did she know ahead of time that she was gonNA put John on the train? Is that why she has the very small suitcase And Win exactly. Did she decide that she was going to make the swap? Yeah well yes so I knew as an I think I mean cut knows a bit earlier. She but we don't see it as an audience that's why it's a big twists. Yes and but then. There's this little seen where ketchup packs a suitcase. It lasts probably just one little moment where she packs a suitcase and I as an actress playing cash. I knew already that. She's packing a suitcase for her brother so she already made the decision but of course. She's she feels so bad about this. 'cause she's GonNa say goodbye to the men. She loves probably for the rest of her life. She doesn't know but the APP. She's made the decision. It's not she. She doesn't Decide on the at the train station. It's before a few hours before I think in the span of episode. Kasha goes from a carefree girl to an adult who sacrifices her way out for her younger brother. Is this moment loss of innocence for her or a manifestation of her love for young. Well I think I'm sure it's a it's a manifestation of her love for her brother and her family 'cause she's about to stay with her mom she has to protect her mum who's not stable so Yeah it's it's her choosing her family instead of her own. Happiness or yeah. The script reads cautious stance on the platform. Watching the train pull away. She surrounded by other people waving passengers off but she is completely alone as an actor. How did you want to show that sense of isolation of being completely alone? It's always about the rights focus and I think even though there are hundreds of extras standing next to you and you're filming a big scene which is like we filmed the scene for the whole day like and I think there were even more takes more angles that they wanted to do. But we didn't have time so for an actor. I think it's really important to stay in your zone or in your head and just remember. Always remember what what what you have to do here. What is what is the the goal and the purpose and leave right emotions and everything and the and the extras or people on sad or the setting. You know the big train station or whatever it cannot distract you know no it. Shouldn't I mean it's it's hard sometimes because then it's it's stress and it's you know lack of time and we're running late. You know all those things that are normal to filming and then you just have to remember yes you just said goodbye to the man you love and your little brother and that's this is all that matters. There's nothing more for you. You don't see anything else in that moment as bad as that is episode to even more brutal for Casa yet. She survives a hellish bombing which turns Warsaw into rubble How traumatic was it to shoot the scene where Maria is killed in cautious arms? The Griffith has driven her manned. Where are you going? And where the bump certain falling? The poems won't be falling by tomorrow also has surrendered and live will be. What did he say? I said if what side it was it was very yeah. It was very challenging. But I think we did it in two takes or yeah to take a 'cause I prefer to be always ready and one hundred percent Prepared you know for a take and especially in terms of such scenes. I prefer to do it in one or two takes. Just give it everything I have to do it. I remember that filming of the scene. We filmed everything until the moment of the shooting. You know that the killing and then we had a separate angle for me. When because Maria has to fall down and I have to fold down with her and then the camera was on the floor somewhere and we had to shoot it separately so that was a big help from the production and from the director that I could see that we filmed the dialogue with them. The whole scene with Germans and then I could only focus on this very last but most important moment so that was that was great. Kasha defense her fellow Server Lena when she's being hassled by German officers about whether she's Jewish which results in Kashan being slapped and then punched by German officer Jewish Polish. When that's not what else is it. I'm Polish go with poza juice I don't know what you mean. Hey I've asked you a question. Let's go she doesn't want to answer your question? Perhaps she just thinks surgeon so you wouldn't really understand her and so is this the moment where she decided she won't cower or she won't be afraid she's going to fight back I'm not. I'm not sure if if if this is like rational decision finot or or like a moment of irrational thinking. I guess is just. She cannot stand the situation. She's seeing an especially after that's the day after Maria was killed so Kasha has so much rage in resolving sadness and grief and shock and and so much just that I guess She feels in that very moment that she has to do it. And it's the right thing to do and whatever the consequences are 'cause he can be killed there. Maybe she once said maybe some part of her once killed because like she's been through that horror and maybe she doesn't WanNa live. She does seem to have a death wish at times. Yes yes she's drawn to that. Yes yes well. I will add some pretty. I think understandable you know as But I of course I thought about that too and I read a lot about from the psychological point of view. You know when you grieve so much and when things like this happen to you what's going on inside your head. How can you possibly cope with such experiences? So Yeah my research was also about the psychology of morning and losing people that you love and through grief. I Dunno looking for revenge or wanting to die may be. Oh Yeah it's all in Kasha. She so complex definitely heading that way by the end of this episode made the Marina's murder standing up for a Lena. Seeing her brother again very briefly yeah she goes on A. What's almost a suicide mission to kill the German Or She would have anyway. Had Tomas snot stopped her. Yeah But it does seem as though she's either out for revenge or suicide at this point And trying to take anyone with her Has she gotten to this place? Where reprisal is sort of the only option available to her that she can either die or she can kill as many Germans as possible. Yes I think it's. It's for sure in cash is in that place in the serious somewhere you know in it. I'm sure she accepts to to do what she does. With the Germans because everything that happened to her basically so yes for sure she. Yeah and into Mosley Turpitude Polish resistance which she joins us. She pledges her oath mean. Is this finally a sense of purpose for for Kasha in a world? That seems Sir totally chaotic to she finally now have a mission organization a reason for living. Yeah Yeah I think it was always for me. It wasn't survival for cash as character. I didn't always think of her as like like to survive was her. You know the goal for for the series or something no. I always thought that she's trying to win. Something back always and I. It's with cash. I think it's also about the power. 'cause when she decides she will seduce and kill the the Nazis then also. It's about winning the feeling that being empowered in the situation and I think it's a very strong 'cause when you lose pretty much everything then how can you feel that you have some kind of power over your life? How can you do that? How can you and she? She needs that feeling she in order to survive into one to live so yes I think it was. She decides to do that to do all those things in their resistance because she needs this feeling that she she's in charge somehow she decides she can. She can be killed. She can die but she was. It was her decision and she was in this place of some kind of power. So what can you tell us about what lies ahead for? Kasha this season on world on fire. Yes so Yes it it does get darker so it for cash. The killing becomes a certain she does it. She's getting better in it and she. It's less human for her. She thinks she becomes this. Like some part in her is already dead but also her the whole the vulnerable part and the girl that we see in the in the first episode very joyful and happy girl. She's now she's Dad. Likes the cash has different so it gets darker in the sense. That cash loses her innocence. Her it's just so much I think she fights and she kills because there is so much grief and sadness insider that she cannot cope with this in any any other way. I think so. Yeah we we see a lot of Seducing and killing in the next episode but also just being hurt and being She's missing her family and hairy for sure. Zafir v Watch. Thank you so very much. Thank you so much as the war. In Central Europe heats up in Great Britain jumps into the fray. They're real drama. World on fire is only just beginning. I mean the intention. Is that each series reps in the year of the war and obviously the Pacific. We'll start to open up in season. Three season to North Africa provides a lot of Michael military action. We'll speak with world on fire series Creator and writer. Peter Bowker here on the podcast next week. April nineteenth masterpiece studio is hosted by me. Jas LACOB and produced by Nick Anderson Lee Chaba. Youtube is our editor. 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Driven by the Heart with Tony Pollard
"Welcome to live love engage. The podcast where we share practical advice from a spiritual perspective on how to create a life and business with more impact, influence and income. I'm your host, Gloria Grace Rand, the inciteful copywriter, and founder of the love method. My mission is to help stop doubting yourself. So you can live fully love deeply and engage authentically. Now must stay and welcome to live love engage I. Am Gloria Grace Friend and today is one of my shaver days when I do the podcast because I have a guest in the studio, I can say that right I can say even though I'm broadcasting from home but what the heck you know We're we're going to say that anyway and I met this gentleman actually through a book writing program because he already has a book which we're GONNA be talking about in a little bit and I'm still working on mine but let me get to it. His name is Tony Pollard and he is a nationally recognized leader Speaker and trainer. He helps businesses who want to have stronger more committed teams through his business. Tony powered speaks. And he knows how to. Understand how to unlock a teams potential on to achieve a more collaborative environment often resulting in increased bottom line and he's got a lot of. Very inexperienced to his name he has. taught every grade from kindergarten through twelfth he's coached football soccer and he's also an entrepreneur as well because he started his own successful janitorial business in college is also has eighteen years of military service with army, National Guard, and now he's currently working in public education skilfully managing school transportation needs and leading a team of three, hundred, fifty people and why things we're going to talk about is he is also the author of driven by the heart guy to passionate living and there it is for those of you watching on youtube you can now see the book. So this'll be. Yes. Yes. I'm very very proud to be watched your journey So for soft, just welcome Tony to live love engage. Thanks Gloria and I'm glad to be here. Thanks so much for. Letting inviting me on. excited. Yeah absolutely. Well I I now that. One of the things about being an author as we've learned is. Writing, a book is just the first step. It's then You know letting people know about it, and so I'm I'm happy to. Share your story a little bit. So let's actually start off by might there what actually inspired you to write a book and this book in particular? Well. This is actually my second book and and I have to tell you some hold up again 'cause you get excited when you do something especially when people tell you could not do something. I've done with this books wasn't supposed to be done at all in highschool at let me backtrack. So and elements causing special needs classes in high school. Ahead of high school counselor tell me I should basically be digger and and I had a goal and my goal was to. Go to college but I didn't know how it's going to get there and they have the grades for the Act Four. So I joined the military like my father did in in my uncle and my mother, and we have a long line of military people when I went to when I went the service and got called the Desert Storm. He thinks hit you and it was that moment I knew that I. Want to be a teacher I knew that I had to go to college in I just started taking class here a class there everything was one goal. Upon another, if I could pass this class, oh I could take classes and that's what led to this basic journey and this kind of things are in the book these little bits of stories, but this book was actually driven by failure. From The in high school I I was told that I. couldn't do anything. I in my current job, I had just been promoted to principal of a full time. School has excited I was gonNA, make some changes and then I did something stupid. So you know how we get things when we fail. Failed Gloriously, not people could say they were fired from a job within three days of receiving the job I. Was An accident, but bottom line ahead to own it. Is All these things are in this book and when you own something and you accept it, you can move on for from it and that's what I did and from that moment on spend almost seven years ago. I just had made a choice to from that moment on I would be in a perpetual state of discomfort. My first thing was getting over the fear public speaking. Join toastmasters. I wanted to I need to lose weight. So I've done those things. and. and. Then I said why need to start writing anything that could cause me pain or discomfort is what are done and then so now written this book and this book is my journey, but it's also everyone else's journey. It's sort like vignettes when when we do thanks from the heart, we do fully and completely we can change our lives completely and I still work for the board of education but I don't see that I don't see myself as an employee I. See Myself as an entrepreneur I, work for myself in work for yourself in you may work for a company. But if you work yourself, you're always gonNA make yourself better. Yeah. That's true. Since that time I've made myself better I've had companies call me, Hey, will you come out the Dallas and present some of the ideas and stuff you brought transportation? Will you do this will worse and? That was not my plan at all. My plan was to me better. I love how you open it up. NAMA. Stay in my wife teaches yoga is way on it and Always have fun with that. Just. But that whole thing is my life. Now I live in a way that's peaceful purposeful and wasn't doing that before any. Realize it mid failure for me to realize that. So I'm sorry that's longer present now I did about talking about. MC. Journey. Live in different way now I know four somebody a liberal myself. Absolutely. Well. What how did you come up with the title? So what does what does that? You kind of alluded to it a little bit but maybe you expand on where that came from of what it really means. Are. Our Writers Group really helped me with this. I knew I wanted. So when I speak I give everybody's little hearts because I want to take what I shared with them wisdom and I wanted to be memorable and I had this I reach out to me this morning that before we mit Heart gaming five years ago. So he remembers speech I gave five years ago and it was a short speech but he remembers any rumors from heart. So everything we do. We should be driven from the heart. We should not think about it and I look at this don't think about it with your mind. Push out outside forces in just go with full bore and its military coming up. I mean you've got a janitor and sometimes you're GONNA fall down. But if you get back up and that's what happened to me, I had to get back up and when I chose to get back up everything. I could have accepted. My demotion wasn't fired completely from your job. I was demoted could accept a my demotion. Or public education job and just been miserable. So I got demoted out. I was crying with these people in and out. I love sharing a story now but I hated at the moment drink. And someone like you doing this nothing. and. I said you're right I did it was an accident but I own it it was inadvertent and I'll tell you what it. So I'd get the new job and old faculty said, let me send them goodbye email I went to youtube at download it. Funny. Goodbye emails. One inappropriate now wasn't cussing and it was a foreign European commercial. Aim across the wrong way in a in an tired I didn't send the one I should of Santa sent the one I should not have sent. In lost a job, it's as simple as that but. Viviana team I'm looking around this room and this team of people around me. There had just hired Mason we can't have you doing this. And I drove to Sam's Club in Mama's Alabama. Started cry and it was at that moment said I've got a change. What did I wrong I get get get your your ego gets the best of you. you become cocky and I had done all those things. I just I saw two hours after that I Google had a repair your image on the job. Right down your goals. So I'm forty five years on I. Think it was forty three. I haven't done that ever why not use are are running my goals down five goals day. And it said read books do what CEO's do. So I started reading books. I had you know because I just want to get to class. So I would do study and get to class nine or reading books in that first year read fifty two books. That Tom Appropriate or four hundred books. And in, it's all about leadership teamwork person development anything that's going to help me grow. Risen motivational videos are inspirational stories I started doing it was everyday basis. Waking up at five and started waking up at four. Now wake up at three thirty and start a normally at. and Go to the gym while I'm at the gym, I'm listening to motivational stories and inspirational stories. At its me going. And when I get home I, take my shower, our listen to a book on the way to work and and I, constantly say, how can I prove myself constantly and and that's what I say seven perpetual state of discomfort and do everything from the heart and you will live fully and their stories in in this book, a guide to passionate living everyone's done that they've decided hey, I've experienced failure or this has happened to me. Let me live in a different way and when they've done that they've normally changed their lives but they changed the world and some of the stories really interesting. Yeah that's awesome. You have a it's. Tell me a little bit more about the. So you've got other stories in there from other people non sharing, sharing their examples. Guess. So a ones, your favorites, your favorites whereas is the heart of comfort everything about bow a heart something if you are. It'll change your life and core check was a teacher in Warsaw Poland he started. Orphanages. He was a doctor, a pediatrician and when when Nazis attacked Holand, he had he ran a A. Catholic orphanage in a Jewish orphanage. And he was very famous children's author. So the Germans were coming in and they say, Hey, on, we're GONNA closes orphanage down to Jewish orphans and they're going to have to be moved into Warsaw and and this was if you read anything about the Warsaw ghetto, right exactly the Nazis were trying to starve out and these five hundred thousand plus people in a small area. It will make me emotional because I'm thinking about this story. And he said and they offered it and said, you can go stay with your Catholic Catholic orphanage. Or you can stay with your new Jewish Orphanage and Jen News. Said Hey I'm GONNA. Stay with these. Kids and I'm going to go into Warsaw ghetto with them knowing he and one, hundred, hundred, ninety children and fifteen or so people that work in off next went to the Warsaw ghetto even though he was freedom. Stay with the Catholics and it goes in this ghetto and he tries to teach the kids. He's still trying to give them peace everything he does is about peace. And two years later or a year and a half later, the Nazis come to him say it's time you know they want things to be peaceful. They didn't want even though they knew they were sentenced to death camps, Treblinka Warsaw they didn't want an uprising. So they went to canoes and say, Hey, we're getting ready to send these people to death came. The story goes he prepares the children. He says I need you on your best clothes. He dresses on he gives them all backpacks and says, take your favorite toy your thing that brings you confident putting your back. A lead the building where they're in and they're marching through the Warsaw ghetto singing songs raising the lord eggs so emotional. Net hundred, Ninety children his twelve or fifteen people that are with him, go with him and as he gets to the train station, he tells the kids were going to go to. We're getting OUTTA here we're going to place apiece. Store, there's rumors and I don't know if that's true or not. But it's so neat that Nazi soldier pulls him out the size and says, Hey, my children love your books. Let me get you out of here. He says, no, I have to go with the kids. They. Load the kids on the train they load his fifteen or so helpers and himself in the train rides all never to be seen again. Scott all these kids were put the death there in he knew. That to the very last he had to provide these children in this orphanage of comfort. Was An educator that touches may because I say now these schools are starting back as an intern. That's what every teacher, every bus driver every superintendent we should try to provide a harder comfort. So for me, what can I do to heart comfort from my voice for that driver? What can they do to provide a harder come for the kids get on your bus and for the teacher? What can we do to Provide Comfort for the kids? We Sir on a daily Basis and we go about our life that way we can change everything and he is he is worshipped in Inder Statutes to him in in Israel is the little story in it's all because he decided to provide heart comfort. So that story is everything's been yet and it's not just a story what I do is try to I'd into myself I was a single father and I had to give my daughter comfort and I raised my daughter as a single father or age three. Domestic we were best friends she twenty now and how can provide her comfort take air her be a father that was not an Axon t parent. Attend all her games support her someone. Gave me some pictures that ahead when she was a kid and I used to do her hair I had to go when my payment, her mother and I divorce. Hair. Salon US I need to braid. French. Braid. fishbone. So my daughter, she's when she was ten stop doing my hair's too tight. Pair but. But from from time she was little. She had iron clothes they were clean. Everything. Right her comfort in love hair show and so I tell that story and then I, tell you news story because not everybody's famous right? And so but we all have a story that we can share and that's how the stories are broken. Now, there's there's like thirty nine hard comfort our determination. To. Happiness? In in s so one of them and I got to pull this up in. Heightened forget stepping your own book. But. You don't forget the stories. The other one is a harder persistence. Share their story. Oh, now go ahead I love this story Dash Roth Monitor was guiding India and they lived in him and his wife lived in this. Rural, area where he had to walk everywhere into into education senator shopping, they had to go over this. Almost like I'M A. Hill. That would take three days believe Rocky Cra- I mean sharp rocks that you could slip and fall and kill yourself. Working, in the fields in his young wife and we're just newly married was bringing in some food. And failed slipped and. He he once found out he tried to carry her to healthcare, but she died on the way there. This man, his harbor assistance. He spent the next thirty or so years literally with a hammer and chisel creating a path for his village how when and I wish I could show you the picture and it was like three hundred, sixty, foot deep hundred, twenty foot long and he did it on his own people he was crazy. You do think some hard. You ignore the outside noises. And so labor surely, he would chisel away. After years the townspeople. Don't know they started helping him I can't believe. STORY THEY FIRED HIM But when it was all done. What took what would take days now only took hours and they walk smoothly around out through this path at amount became a national hero and all because he was very persistent in his pursuit of helping his village because he didn't want to see anyone else da children or anymore young watched us. Oh, it's really interesting story so that's awesome. Well I. Definitely, want to be able to read this book but WE'RE GONNA get to that in a minute, but first I wanted to ask you to maybe. share because I know you've already I think given some tremendous advice for people. But maybe what is one change that you can recommend that people could do right now that could help them. To achieve their goals or or just to even just to live a fuller life and especially you know we've been dealing with. Recording list of the end of July and we've had all these months of the pandemic and then the little. A lot of stuff has been going on and so. A lot of people are under stress and fatigue. And But. At the same time, we still have to go on, we still have to find ways to go on. So what would you recommend on? Right now in embroiled in work. Obviously. The mind is serving others. And it can be so small and in its very selfish what I'm about to say. So if I'm at a fast food in man the drive through. I'm thinking I, need a pick me up I mean by the guy behind me his meal or their meal, and I'll do that and. I hate to be selfish but just serve in some capacity give back and if you do that. Your Life will slowly but surely change I had like I said, I had no plans of becoming a writer I had no plans of speaking I was asked to. Do, a Veterans Day program and I spoke for fifteen minutes and all and had given these hearts. These were like the first time I gave him out and the veterans came to me. That was really great. I'm going to remember that it really helped me especially 'cause more just coming back from the war and. Experience in PD SD and but I just talked about service and but from that moment on us, Oh, I can give in a different way in I've just got to be willing to. Serve others and put yourself in discomfort. I was very uncomfortable speaking Neko's to do so and when I did that thanks to start to change if you do if you do those two things serve and being perpetual state of discomfort doesn't mean had to be miserable right just them. In. It's GonNa give you gross and. Net I've been so much better. The life change for me tremendously I had no idea. It was going to change for me in half and I know your mother voices probably dragging and read it when you do that you live cannot help open up for you. So yeah. Absolutely. I definitely agree with that stepping out of your comfort zone and. And being willing to be uncomfortable. That is that's where growth happens you have to I mean. It's it's otherwise you're just staying the same and you're just going to if you're not growing your dying so you've gotta be able to do that so I love. The service part of that too gives me. I don't mean rub you can share lawyer. So my wife and it's you'll hate that I'm selling the store. Struggle for a couple years where she could underway. Shipping been account for years she had served in all these need a public service areas also that stuff came to an end. She didn't know how to fix it. and. I just told her I said, you've got to be willing to step out and when she when she did that she became a personal trainer and I could see foul on her face when she studying for this call works. In classes and it's the funniest thing. 'cause that's not my wife she is the biggest introvert I know. Each classes and she may have her days where she slow frustrating a little nervous but see joyner heart and it's all because she stepped out. Or Comfort Zone in did it in the neatest thing Oh. Yeah. Absolutely. I definitely experienced that myself I mean that's part of what led to me doing this podcast. itself is because of stepping out of my comfort zone, talking more about God and things like that and so at. It feels so much better and am being able to serve people. It really does and I I love like Kevin People like you on so that I can bring your story out to people who may may or may not have been able to hear you otherwise. which brings me to unless they wanted to ask you about this. How can people get your book? So right now it's it'll wont August fifteen. ON AMAZON DOT COM it'll be kindle as well and but it launch fifteen in if you just type in Tony Pollard or you can get two books actually. So why Ben My name Tony Parker, you'll see those three books pop up. One is jazz it was. Just kind of do something I wrote a chapter book and I self published that myself and now I'm working to Michael Michael Butler publishing as as you and driven by the Har- guide passionate living. So, and you say you're still riding your book so so hard you feel uncomfortable. But when you're in as low groups, find you an accountability partner and two of us in that group. Are. Three of us in that group Accountability Partners Hey. Did you write this morning? And it's different from different parts of the country and as how you. But that's how you find the book on Amazon and you're wanting the right wherever you WanNa do find you somebody to keep you accountable and it will help you as well. Yeah absolutely. That is for sure I. I always talk to my clients about that at and the importance of being in a group and or even just having one buddy just somebody that can keep you on your toes and keep you motivated. So it helps great deal so. Awesome. Well, thank you so much for being here. I, really appreciate you sharing some awesome stories that only your own, but some others as well. So really wedding our appetite for the buck and so I wish you all the luck and success with it and needs to even bigger and better things and also wish you good luck as we were talking before we started the recording that you're getting ready for school is opening up soon and so you're managing. All of that fun. Even in normal year I'm sure it's you know it's fine but this is. Not a normal year dealing with all of that. So you know I've made me one last thing is, how are you? What are you doing to keep yourself? going. especially in dealing with now, this the stress of starting school is man. In you told me not to call you man, but it would. For me personally. In in like Santa, always in how can I be stated discomfort right now I'm in propential- stated discomfort at this time. It brings me joy because when you're so busy, you love the logistics transportation I love. We did all these videos this week they're not the greatest little videos but these these drivers that I can't meet face-to-face they're going to be videos hopefully, help them and prepare of the year because they're nervous. They're scared they're worried about themselves or worried about the health of their children and that Kinda hurts my heart as well because I can't do anything for them and other than trying to give as much as I can. So when they start off the year in so the army you practice practice practice. So. If you go into war, you go in action you're ready. You can go out there and be all lange. You don't think about it becomes second nature and that's what I hope. I can convey to the drivers and anybody else. I may work with out WANNA know, hey, gotta be have a positive attitude and I met with my group of employees and said, let's have a positive attitude if you need to fuss do it to me behind closed doors but wearing large group a positive that's our goal. To Myself, I need to keep to myself I, don't need bring anybody else down. So that's my goal. Do everything from the heart and but as positive as possible. All right. Awesome. Well I think that is the perfect place to end it. So keep that in mind all of you listening and watching out there great advice Ed that is driven from the heart. So I, appreciate that. And as always I appreciate you out there who are listening and watching I just very very grateful for you, and until next time is always I encourage you to go out and live fully love deeply and engage authentically. One more thing before you go. As valued listener of the live love engage podcast. I WanNa help you shine your light in the world not only while you're listening to the show but all day every day of the week. That's why I created. The love engaged spiritual awakening community on facebook. 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"Question Are you in need of a story right about now? How about a drink to go with that? Well, I have a recipe for you. Check this out. coffee with creamer and tea with a Twist of lemon and you Like the sound of that. Well, you know what coffee and tea with the ladies. It's my exciting new podcast series all the digital 5 Network. It's stories about women who have turned history into her story. And left us a trail to follow. Now they're like that. Well, like I said if you love history both past and present as much as I do. And you don't have to be a lady to enjoy this show. Then you really love this show. So join me as I celebrate coffee and see what the ladies. all the digital by podcast Join me. Hello, glad that you can join me for this Premiere episode of coffee and tea with the ladies on of course A Digital Life podcast. How are you? Ladies out there. I hope you're doing well. Are you ready for something fresh? Something wow, exciting and new this is what the show is all about, though. It's about celebrating women both past and present. Whose stories Still Still and I emphasize that still need to be heard. You know here I am doing this podcast now I decided I was not let's see. Let me put it this way. I started my journey of doing or creating and developing this show. Last year, you know it was ongoing thing for me. And then as I started to evolve in my you know, just a lot of things change for me not involved but changed I understood that I was going to be doing something a whole lot bigger than myself. I was just going to be the voice that is going to be saying it the mouthpiece. I had no idea. Okay, when I started to show that it was going to be like this, okay? But I know the universe was compelling me and pushing me to do this. And every time I look at it and I can just think of it every time every so often because I simply must because it's what's brought me here to this. This is doing this. And I realize of course that I'm a gift. I realized that my my life is not my own. And that's I have a purpose in life and I must fulfill it. Now these incredible ladies had a purpose in life and they fulfilled it some did some didn't I don't know that. but their voice is somehow still needed to be heard because you know why they're still relevant because you know why we still are we are still in a society. where so many of us still don't have a voice. I knew all too. Well. What was what it was like to not have a voice. And it does not feel good. But these women have contributed to our lives and so many significant ways that we could never imagine that it was. her I'm still amazed when I read this stuff. So you you know, some of this is still catching me off-guard every once in a while because I know history. You know, even though I've been out of high school for such a long time. I'm a read I read a lot. But I had to research this stuff because I had forgotten about it. But when I re-acclimate myself with this again, it's like oh my goodness, and she did that. I have forgotten. So I'm bringing their stories to life from me and for you. Because the Legacy that they've Left Behind is not to be unnoticed the voices still need to be heard. To some of you who are new to listening not only to a podcast but listening to history those of you who haven't picked up a book in years. Those of you have decided that you don't need them know those of you who who are you know, just like I didn't know that I didn't know that. So a lot of this stuff is caught me aback a bit, you know. But it's I I simply must. It has but it's for those of you who don't know. This is this is that moment when you get to hear this and this person speak not only the truth, but their legacy. So it was not it was speaking to me for so long. And of course me being a woman. And understanding personally how it felt when my voice wasn't heard. Understood wasn't seen. And how at times I didn't get credit for things that I that I contributed to. I believe these women. or I should say we Who are who are listen to this podcast we can relate? See what these ladies are saying. So you will you will definitely find yourself if this story you will because I do. It doesn't matter how all these stories are. They're still new. These are still stories. Why do you think they're still sharing these stories because people have forgotten The stories are still relevant. This story still speak to us. And we can see ourselves in their story. That's what I'm sharing this their story because I see myself and I want you to see yourself in their story too because let me tell you something some of their stories. If it doesn't make you a little bit. What the moment? if it doesn't make you angry or moved or impassioned to do something or to think something then then then then hey, I don't know how to answer for that 1-month. What is as I looked at my first Just I will call my first guest. I was taken aback at something that I did not know and I'm going to share that with you because I didn't know that. So I'm going to give you a couple of hints see if you can guess who she is. Let's see. I know you're waiting for hints. Okay, let's do this. She's French. polish French physicists chemists and conducted pioneering on radioactivity She's also an Amazon Prime right about now. discovered radium plutonium poop a plutonium polonium But you guessed it. Well, you should have by now if you know history and even if you don't. It's Marie sklodowska Curie. Marie sklodowska Curie. She was born Maria. Salomiya slow down Scott. November 1867 and died in July 1934 incredible lady Let me give you a little bit of her overview. And then I'm going to give you something with what I saw and it was like well see that's why I do this. That's why I live my authentic self and do. And live my truth. I have to read this off first before I do this overview. Did you know? Okay, did you know initially the Nobel Peace Prize? You have to know what the Nobel Peace price is you should know. It's for individuals who have contributed to society to this world to make Humanity a better place. Did you know that the committee didn't want to give her the Nobel Peace Prize because she was a fill in the blank. Why am I not surprised? Why am I not surprised that they didn't want to give her because she was a woman intelligent. To have discovered radioactive activity how many of us could even want to even go there? Okay, some of us are not even Desiring or wanting to be a scientist. She took it upon herself to to get into an industry. That was dominated by men and she said to herself. You know what I'm going to do this. I'm just saying. So they didn't want to give her the prize because she was a woman. You know what that feels like, you know, I I know that when you're not seen you're not heard you're not understood. You feel like you don't matter. Well, she matters. Okay. She does she matters. She should matter. Any of us is her okay. We could be here we could have discovered something amazing and incredible idea something with come up with. And we don't get the credits. So we are her. Let me give you an overview as part of the curry family Legacy of five Nobel prizes. She was the first woman to win a Nobel Prize the first person and the only woman to win the Nobel Prize twice. And the only person to win it into scientific fields. Which was radium and polonium. She was also the first woman to become a professor of the University of Paris. So you check out all these firsts. first woman to do this first person to do this and the only person to win the Nobel Prize into scientific fields. And they did not want to give it to her because she was a woman she was born in Warsaw Poland. Back in the day. They called it a kingdom of Poland part of the Russian Empire. She studied at warsaw's. I still have a problem saying that name clandestine flying University and began a practical scientific training in Warsaw in 1891 at age twenty-four. She followed her elder sister. Branislav want to study in Paris where she earned her higher degrees and conducted her subsequent scientific work. In 1903. She shared her Nobel Prize in physics with her husband. Pierre Curie and physicists Henri becquerel for her pioneering work developing the theory of radioactivity. a term she coined Using techniques she invented for isolating radioactive isotopes. She won the 1911 Nobel Prize in chemistry for the discovery of two elements polonium and radium. Under her Direction, the world's first studies were conducted into the treatment of neoplasma using radioactive isotopes. She founded the Career Institute in Paris and in Warsaw, which remained major centers of medical research even until today. During World War One she developed mobile radiography units to provide x-ray services to field hospitals. While a French citizen Marie sklodowska Curie who used both surnames never lost her sense of published of identity. You see what gets me is this? She was the first and so many different things. The first woman to win a Nobel Prize, which they now call the Nobel Peace Prize the first person in the only woman to win it twice and the only person to win the Nobel Prize and two scientific fields. And they didn't want to give it to her because she was simply a woman. Well, check out her story on Amazon Prime. but you can also you should be listening to this podcast to She Wow, all I can say is. This is one of her quotes which I love she has a lot of them that I really resonate with. She says this life is not easy for any of us. But what of that we must have perseverance and above all confidence in ourselves. We must believe that we are gifted for something. And that this thing is something must be attained. at whatever cost I find it. So interesting because I can I look at that that she's saying. dreams desires your hopes using your gifts and talents to obtain something that you believe in. That you believe in Above All Else. If you have a dream and desires and and things you want to do in your life and you want to see those things come to life. It doesn't matter what it is. But just like her. and just like I myself you have to do whatever it takes to attain that. You simply aren't given gifts and talents for no reason you're simply aren't given ideas. for no reason you have a purpose and when you have a purpose, you have to fulfill it. You have to see it all the way through at whatever cost. I know for me it costs me. As an entrepreneur it cost me you have to make sacrifices. sacrifices that you may not like but because there's something about that necessity that me that purpose that need is what called me to this microphone. That's why I'm doing the show. I had two at whatever cost. I paid the price to do this show because it took a lot of sacrifice a lot of time. a lot of learning a lot of growing a lot of it I grew to become this person that's doing the show. but That's what it takes. When you're passionate about something that you truly believe in, I believe in my dreams and my desires as you have yours. You have to believe in them. She was so moved that she. Didn't matter what the price you talking about? It doesn't matter the price you pay it. And she also died as a result of what she discovered. Because she got ill. The what I what I what really struck me was the fact that initially they did not want to give the Nobel Peace Prize. They didn't want to give it to her and that is what still. So like really? I never understood it. I never understood it. So I am in my own way my small way this show. Is giving her credits to what she's done. so Marie Curie this show the Digital Life Network on as you for what you've contributed to society to this world. And of course to us ladies. So before I close this show. You know something incredible when you are the first to do so many things the first Nobel Peace Prize winner. See when it into scientific discoveries. the first woman to do this the first to do this and they still didn't want to give it to her. Because she was so smart, you know. And they didn't want to give it to her. so check this out. If you did, like I said this show is just starting. But there's a lot of I have a lot of things coming up for the show. So I'd like to say a couple of things if you want to support the show, you can always do that. You can visit my website at ww.w the digital vibe.com. And you can support the show I believe for as low as 499 a month. 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So you you know, check it out. So I encourage you to go visit the website check it out and see see the updates there, but Marie Curie. and an amazing lady who's left us ladies the legacy of making sure okay. Make sure you get credit for the woman that you are. Thank you for listening. Question. Did you enjoy the show? Well, I know you would. And I'm so glad that you can join me. But you know what the show wouldn't be complete without you. So, you know what I want you to do if there's a lady that needs to be mentioned here and you want to give a voice. then visit my website w w w but digital vibe.com Leave me a message. And who knows? I just might mention their story on this podcast because you know what? I am the boss here. This is Annette your host and I'm glad that you can join me. But you know what? next time you me the show You know what? Tell all your friends? The coffee and tea with the ladies is hot.
"A Kind of Permanent Battle"
"From WNYC in new. York this is on the media. This week, we seek answers to our domestic troubles by looking east to Poland a country wrestling with disinformation xenophobia and a battle over its own story. The assumption that we had finished with those arguments that we'd all learn the lessons of the Second World War or whatever piece of history WANNA point to. was. Wrong. Poland's new holocaust. Speech Law was passed this share. Any bans, any claims that the country collaborated with Nazi Germany during World War Two four years ago I believed that I lived in a democratic country, which is in the heart of your. This is not a problem that should be given to public prosecutor, but rather to educators, the Prada onset ignorance is education. Okay. The elections were won by illiberal, but we should hope and work for the future and we should win next elections. It's all coming up after this. Church. Listener Support W. nyc studios. From. New York. This is on the media. Bob, Garfield is out this week. I'm Brooke. Gladstone. Since the election of Donald J trump we in United States have become accustomed to a degree of fabulous I've done more for black Americans than anybody with the possible exception of Abraham Lincoln. The president said dies -ment provides the framework for his alternate reality. We have one of the lowest mortality rates. Nine hundred deaths on a single day, you have the numbers bliss. Because I heard, we had the best Taliban number, one metality. We are being given something. I can't recall in my lifetime, a choice of realities. One that is mostly regarded as evidence based and one that you might call faith-based that face being in Mr Trump in either case, you have a sizable cohort to back you. You Up. Truth has been displaced in many quarters by rage and fear over the past four months. We'd had many opportunities to observe the impact of paranoia when deployed by a fantasist. In the White House, an Arizona man died after taking chloroquine. His wife said that they heard about it from trump's briefings. Are you going to allow the government to tell you to wear a mask? Some believe these masks orders go against their freedoms? Protect our rights I will. Not. Pay For it. I'm t box conspiracy of seeing that number swelled on facebook and doctors warn if left unchecked could undermine an effective vaccine. The death toll from the coronavirus pandemic has surpassed one hundred and fifty thousand in the United States. That's the highest number of fatalities in any nation by fall and accounts for nearly a quarter of the recorded global toll. Immediately after the two thousand, sixteen election I spoke with New Yorker writer Masha Gessen who after having lived long under Vladimir Putin had some advice for anxious Americans trying to navigate the. So called new normal, she explained that for the would be authoritarian. The lying is the point that the ability to create a reality flagrantly staring down conspicuous fact is a crucial component of building and sustaining power. And last fall boxes David. Roberts noted bluntly where such strategy left unchecked could lead this sort of cultish increasingly authoritarian movement takes over the country in Russia and Turkey and Poland it's a disturbingly longer and longer list. We see countries that we thought were democracies devolve into this. In. The US so much has happened in the last few years that we thought would never happen I. Think we should really loosen up our imaginations as to what can happen when a movement that is convinced that everything knows in loves is in danger of falling apart. A movement that's thinking like that unconnected anymore facts or reality and got its hands on the power of the federal. Government is the basic recipe for democracies falling apart. and. So last fall on the media producer Laya. fetter reported on one of those places, Poland, a young democracy teetering on unstable ground, and where it's far right. Nationalist Government is intent on re writing the nation's painful history. For, almost a decade Poland has been in the grip of a conspiracy theory. What really happened when a plane crashed in a forest in western Russia, killing Poland's president and dozens of other government officials. The plane had been on route to commemorate another Polish tragedy. A massacre that had occurred in the very same location in one, thousand, nine, hundred, forty. One Thousand Nine hundred ninety three documentary explored the mystery while the German armies advanced from the West. The Soviets across opponents. Eastern frontiers coordinator met Pinza the Polish army collapsed them surrendered. The victors divided the country down the middle and imprisoned every soldier they captured. Russia took a two, hundred, thousand, fifteen, thousand Poland's officer corps where never seen alive again. Many. What a diner near Smolensk? In a forest cold catching after decades passively and suspicion an investigation in the early nineties confirmed finally that it was not. Hitler but Stalin who had ordered the massacre and so when on April Tenth Twenty Ten, a delegation of ninety, six Polish politicians officials traveled from Warsaw to Smolensk. Service. Of Remembrance and. But what happened instead compounded the national pain? Poland's prime minister burst into tears. When he heard the news today that his country's president was killed in a plane crash, the pilot tried to land in thick fog at least twice missing the runway and ignoring the control tower was direction to divert to another city, not just losing the president of that country. The first lady, the head of the army chief of staff, the national security. Office head Deputy Parliament, speaker the Deputy Foreign Minister. It was a devastating national tragedy. What's more? The symbolic layering was undeniable along standing tragedy finally solved an a new one appears in its place. And yet in the immediate. And days after the crash, there was a kind of common shock and Applebaum is a journalist and academic based in Warsaw. At the time of the two, thousand, ten crash. Her husband was minister, of foreign affairs and the Polish government, and there was pretty straightforward reporting about what had happened, what was immediately clear, and there were people on the ground who saw the crash. So there was a kind of consensus initially about what had happened that it was a terrible accident and that many. Many people value to the nation had died, but the story started to shift as the investigation into the preceded investigators. Say pilot error was mostly to blame. It became clear that one of the causes of the crash was the fact that the pilots were under pressure to land. The president's delegation had arrived. Late for the plane, they were running behind schedule as they got closer to Smolensk, which wasn't even really an airport. It was a kind of airstrip in the forest they. They. Began to be worried about the fog and the pilots weren't sure. They can make the narrow landing but according to black box recordings, Polish. President Lech. Kaczynski head of the opposition party directed the pilots to do. It was meant to be the launch of his reelection campaign. So there were cameras there which he knew and he was very anxious to go under pressure. The pilots tried to make the landing instead, they hit a tree killing all ninety six people on board the President's. President's twin brother, the head of the nationalist right political party in Poland. Saint parties the president. He didn't like this story. It made the president look bad more to the point. This was a terrible crash very near to a place where an earlier generation of Poles were murdered by the Soviet state. Because of that, Eerie nece people immediately began to speculate that there was actually a different deeper story that perhaps the Russians caused the crash. Perhaps, there was a bomb on the plane. And conspiracy theories began to proliferate online. The president's brother. Yaroslavsky Kinski began openly alluding to them. Kozinski, Law and justice. Party made unraveling the Smolensk conspiracy. It's key campaign promise. Once you had bought into their idea that there is a secret conspiracy possibly involving the Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk. Possibly involving the Russians and that lots of people high up in the state were implicated in some great big secret plot to kill the president if you believe that. then. You can believe a lot of other things. The point was to get people to believe in a kind of alternative reality to doubt institutions to doubt that the government was telling the truth, and that was absolutely at attempt to help win an election, but it did more than carve out a new electorate. It created new divides in Polish society. where. One's Polish politics were split between Communist and anticommunist around economic policy. Now, it was over a vision of history. It was how you see polling place in the world, and whether you think secret dark forces are trying to undermine your country and whether you need to elect a government of Patriots in order to make sure that doesn't happen where you fell on that dividing line affected, how you would vote and how you would understand politics for the next several years. Years, and so when Lon, Justice One, in Twenty fifteen, it's fun to new kind of power a power based on the willingness to embrace the myth, they fired large numbers of Polish, civil servants, Polish members of the foreign. Service, all kinds of people who work for the government also leaders and board members of state companies, and they replaced all of them with people whom they were. Sure. We're loyal and one element of the loyalty test was belief in the Smolensk. Myth? The Smolensk conspiracy implied that there were dark mysterious forces continuing to try to manipulate an undermine the Polish nation. It also drew on the larger story of pulling continually attacked by outsiders and the valiant Polish resistance to threats past and present. Justice road that narrative to electoral victory, and then road its electoral victory to further consolidation of that narrative in service of Polish nationalism. Coming up a right wing nationalist party comes to power its first takeover, the museums. This is on the media. A lot of are missing restaurants, these days, the company, the food, but the earliest restaurants replaces you went not to eat apparently the eighteenth century customers too classy for chewing digesting is work. It's manual labor, not necessarily something ladies were acted to be very at doing I'm Johanna mayor host of science fiction, and this month, we are all about food find science fiction wherever you get your podcasts. This is on the media I'm ladder. Poland is the nation haunted by its twentieth century. Or September nineteen, thirty nine. German begins its ruthless march of confessed and sets the stage for World War. Two. Holland's deform inhabitants fresh scattered and in slay. Tens of thousands of square miles of territory shrink before the movement of Lightning armored column. And the world learn the meaning of a grim new word. Let's scree Germany and the Soviet Union each invaded and occupied Poland during World War Two killing in the process of five point, six, million poles including three million Polish Jews. After the war, Poland became an independent republic within the Soviet bloc under communist rule. In nineteen, eighty, nine. It was one of the first of the. Eastern. European nations to break away and become a democracy. For decades, the nation has wrestled with a complicated question of how to interpret its own history. and. So in one, thousand, nine, hundred, Eighty, eight, Poland founded. It's institute. Of National Remembrance whose motto is our history creates our identity. The Institute for National Remembrance was initially a place where historians could pursue questions that other historians weren't pursuing. Janine is a professor of Political Science Lehohla University of Maryland where her focus is eastern Europe. Some of these questions involved, for example, Stalinist. Crimes in. Poland. So there was a lot of attention being given to the Holocaust and crimes against Jews and here was a place where they could pursue questions about crimes by the Soviet Union and And Soviet Union's representatives against Poland. So it was a place where history was being done consciously with a sense of can we fill in gaps? Can we find archival sources and collect archival sources that other historians aren't doing? But within a few years of its founding, the question of what history exactly needed to be examined became a bit more complicated with the two thousand. One publication of a book called neighbors by then nyu professor Yang Gross. Neighbors told the story of the nineteen, forty, one year, Wagner massacre in which hundreds of Polish. Jews were massacred by their Polish neighbors in a fashion too gruesome to repeat on this program. And it set into motion a national reckoning, President Alexander, Kwasniewski in two thousand one. We can have no doubt that here in the valley match police citizens were killed at the hands of fellow citizens. Poverty, he continued for this crime, we should beg for forgiveness from the souls of the dead and their families. This is why today as the citizen and President of the Republic. Of Poland I apologize. For some other polls, it was too bitter a pill to swallow. These citizens chose to see their nation as solely a victim of Nazi atrocities, Law and justice than a Nissan right-wing Party of the anticommunist. Right. took a stand against what it called the politics of shame. Party leader Yaroslav Kaczynski's position has never wavered. So the poodle. Do tell this whole pedagogy of shame. This push to accept guilt has led to a situation where our nation has to face the thinkable. I. Mean. Our nation has to fight to stop accusations that we are guilty of the horrors of World War. Two. Nibbles, casinos broad new. At. The time yards loves brother elect kitchen ski the Lawn Justice leader who would later service president and then parish in this month's crash was mayor of Warsaw where he led the construction of a world renowned museum that offered a more valiant story of Polish resistance. It's called the Warsaw rising museum named for the sixty three day military operation started in the summer of nineteen, forty, four in which the Polish home army fought to wrest control of Warsaw from the Nazis with no outside assistance. The polls were defeated. Two hundred thousand people died Germans bombed Gel sections held by the polls, and finally were able to move tanks and heavy equipment into the recaptured city. A two month long revolt was a bloody and heroic battle and starving polls strip dead horses for food. Forced to capitulate, but no help came the poll signed an armistice, with Nazi. When the Museum Open Pavel mucked. Speech was working at the Institute of National Remembrance which had dutifully investigated the Bob New massacre to him. The Warsaw, rising, museum revealed some of the tensions to come. It was only about the glory, the heroism and not so much about the political and especially human prize. But was paid for this heroics. Two, hundred thousand people were killed during the apprising and the great majority of CD ask. For me. It was one of the greatest tragedies in the police he story, and we should, of course, commemorate this event but. I, think. But our obligation is also to discuss the price that was paid for his heroism. Also, all the political context. Why the decision to start the pricing was taken? Was it a wise decision? Was it a shoot mistake perhaps. All that was the ignored in this. Exhibition was were first exemplification over politics of history of injustice, not yet on the national level, but on the level of of war. Billable the capital Poland favorite a more nuanced view of Poland's world or to experience and in two thousand, seven publishing article in the liberal daily paper Gazeta v Board. Shah proposing another museum when that would be built in Gdansk and tell the overall narrative about the Second World War. A very brault picture of the past, not hiding sensitive parts of our history and. Then would somehow provoke visitors to think to have their own reflection upon the past. My idea was that we should, of course, present for Polish she story but also. Started off. Who suffered in world war who fought in the war, and that idea got some serious pushback I fought and I still think that the best way to make people from abroad understand our history is to present this story against broader background and only against this broader international background. Specific features over policy story could be understood to leaders on the rate. This dismissal of Polish. exceptionalism was an attempt to destroy the nation and service of a foreign agenda. The intended museums decision to focus more on civilians than the military was also denounced. The second third wall was different from all. Previous conflicts because it affected mostly civilians and the police crisis was even more striking because ninety percent of Polish citizens who died in the war where CVS this approach was also rejected. It was labeled as pacifistic as somehow denigrating VIR- achievements over Polish soldiers and this criticism of this concept, and later on of our exhibition, but we creating dice was focusing on this allegedly to humanistic to pacifistic and anti war approach of our exhibition. And yet despite all this, the museum moved forward, the design was singular a green landscaped plaza surrounding a bright red complex that featured forty meter tipped tower rising to the sky representing the future and housing. The museum's educational facilities. The permanent exhibition itself, all fifty thousand square feet of it would be underground below the complex. A nod to the ways in which history forms the foundation of our world's below the surface. The experience of the museum was to feel both enlightened and entombed ringed by tall walls of concrete and pulled in by video touchscreens, Wall text, and original artifacts through which the museum sought to convey both civilian suffering and resistance and drawing parallels across time and place. We have a few section exhibition devoted to occupation off. You're all of Asia by. Germany, by Soviet Union by Japan. We have also a huge section of exhibition devoted to the Holocaust, and this is about not only what happened in Poland but about many other nations our approach was. We try to include as much as possible about Poland and Eastern. Europe with index habituation. But. Try to make it in a consistent way part of a broader story. So every visit or would not yet Paul and is present in fact, everywhere invest submission. But always in connection with Oliver Nations with Oliver cases of terror of extermination of resistance, several years and tens of millions of dollars leader, it was almost ready. But in Thousand Fifteen Lawn Justice won the National Elections Mocked Beach and team were just months from the opening when in April twenty sixteen word came down from the central government that the museum would be liquidated and merged with the Museum Fester Platz and the war of nineteen, thirty, nine, a museum in Gdansk that had not yet been built. The new did not employ A. A single employees that have an address did not have even telephone number and on this Friday night, it was announced with the biggest historical museum in Poland, the Museum of the second war, which was almost ready to be open to the public was simply disappear swallowed by fictional ghost museau knocked. The beach had the multiyear year contract guaranteed to all museum directors in Poland. Firing him outright would have been illegal the so called merger was a ruse. But since there was a legally mandated three month waiting period before any liquidations or mergers mock defeats work to speed up construction and shore up his base despite all the obstacles created by government, we worked in an incredible pace tying to speed up a referring to the same time we were attacked by were low injustice propaganda below injustice politicians were accused of being not real pulse of acting on the orders of Berlin or Brussels knocks Vich was accused of financial irregularities. Yes. Left kitchen ski declared on TV that the museum was not a Polish Museum but imposed by Germany upon Poland. Do give the World War Two museum in Gyns. A sort of gift to Angela. Merkel. From Donald Tusk is nothing more than an endorsement of Germany's politics history completely. Sold in the meantime, protesters came to show their support from. And he and his team mounted legal challenges in late March twenty, seventeen, the museum opened. But only two weeks later, a letter came down from the Supreme Administrative Court, giving the Minister of Culture full licensed to do with it. What it wanted, the museum was eventually liquidated. Fired, because simply the museum who's director I was ceased to exist the minister of Culture on the same day founded the New Museum of the second. World War. But the name was the same but legal, it was a new. Of. Culture. So when you director was nominated over I, obviously declared that exhibition would be changed at the time. Rocca was training as a tour guide at the museum. She and dozens of other guides had been preparing for months. When the management changed, the guides were presented with the choice. Sign a document stating that they would follow the museum's new script. No editorializing leave. Their signed door now and those that signed, could you know follow the path? Why did you refuse to sign? A long with historical facts that you can read from the label being guide is also my opinion and my attitude and myself in this. And I didn't want to be forced to change the history and when you refuse to sign what happened. So the moment you don't sign, you didn't get the proper ID to enter the exhibition and you know there are guards at the insurance. So we were informed that these going to are not truth by then you management won't have the IDEES to enter. If you want to enter, you have to buy yourself a ticket. Two thirds of the guides refused to sign and six months after taking over the new management began instituting changes to the exhibitions of she says, the changes in the museum's narrative have been hard to watch. The balance in this museum, there were good polls bet polls. Now Them. They're only good polls everywhere, almost twenty new elements introduced or some elements over expansion of it. Where removes pattern Max, which all these countries implement a certain vision of history, and we go into directions, one about removing vs parts of exhibition, which are regarded as to international and the second adding new elements, and you installation was edit about Paul's saving druce, and it suggests with polls saved over one, hundred, thousand, druce and historian over this false number because not more than thirty to fifty, thousand troops even survey. German. Occupation in occupied. Poland. Most invasive, the most aggressive challenge. This is removing of feeling that was presented in the last room over exhibition, it was assault of. Footage of archival film sent archival photographs about war conflicts violence. After the end of the second war on. TV Nowadays. Tone. Not So. Nutty. This not very north thought. The film begins with news of the end of the Nuremberg trials followed by an announcement about Stalin, and then by globe spanning shots from the Korean War. East Berlin the U. K. Turkey for Martin Luther King and Occupy Wall. Street. The. Final scenes to pick the wars in Ukraine and Syria and refugees refuting lost criticized by eighteen as to pacifistic antiwar and the new director of Zone declared were. Musone should somehow encouraged polls to defend our country instead of presenting the war as a great budget. replaced. It has a different tone. Nobody thought the war and its effect. Would last half a century for Poland. I Germany attacks. Then, Soviet Russia. We don't give up despite being left continues in this vein until it's rousing and. Work a strike spread throughout Poland. The Communist, Louis. The. Iron? Curtain, falls. The war is over. We prevail. because. We do not beg for Fredin. We fight for. It's not strictly ally. It's Poland story through tightly focused lens seen today in the World War Two museum in Gdansk open to the public under the leadership of the law and Justice Party. Leadership from which we unsuccessfully sought comment many times. Meanwhile. Poland's culture war moved onto another institution Poland the Warsaw. Museum. For the history of Polish Jews is currently looking for a new director. The culture minister has a say in who will get the job and his looking for someone who wants to improve on as he calls it historical policy for a year police. Museum director, Dariusz Stola sat in limbo after his first five-year term director. An independent committee asked him to stay on for another five, but to make it official, his appointment would have to be approved by the country's minister of, culture, Piatra Linski. Glenn. Ski. Didn't do it nor did he explain why? But there are theories. In two thousand eighteen, the Polish government passed an amendment related to history Poland's new holocaust speech law. It was passed this year, any bands, any claims that the country collaborated with Nazi Germany during World War Two specifically, legislation prohibits references to wartime death camps in the country as being. Polish, those in violation of that law face up to three years behind bars. After outcry from the international community, the amendment was tempered the law demoted from a criminal to a civil offense with violators, no longer risking jail time. Dire Stola was among those who criticized the law. This is not a problem that should be given to the public prosecutor, but rather to educators, the proper answer ignorance is education. So that's one theory for why stole appointment was never confirmed. Here's another in March two, thousand eighteen pauline hosted. An exhibit called estranged looking at the March nineteen, sixty, eight anti Semitic campaign to purge Poland of its Jews. Once and for all during which roughly thirteen thousand Jews driven out. In the exhibit featured on the polene website, friends wander through an exhibit and our disappeared one by one while the Anti Semitic words of Ladas Love Gomolka, the communist leader Poland from nine, hundred, fifty, six to nineteen, seventy drone in the background. The exhibit ends at a wall of anti Semitic quotes from nineteen, sixty, eight, and two, thousand, eighteen at least two of which belonged to members of the law and Justice Party. How much each? Bill. That's not say how much time the culture has got to sign a contract because. It seemed quite obvious to everyone when we slow was adopted, but it should happen without any delay. This February stole of formerly stepped aside allowing the interim director to stay on for another three years. In, a statement, the new director vowed to follow the course that stole a had mapped out for the museum. Monuments and museums. Especially, those that tracing nations passed as a story are often prayed a political argument. Call it a testament to their continued relevance. Especially, the increasingly popular in Narrative museums that are artifacts, photographs, and installations to illuminate or to mislead. In Nagasaki Japan, there's the atomic bomb museum where in one, thousand, nine, hundred, six material about the Japanese army's 1937 murder of a quarter million, Chinese? War Prisoners and civilians was removed. In Budapest Hungary, there's the house of terror built to show parallels and continuity between Nazis and Hungarian fascists and the Communists. But the museum dedicates only a fifth of its content to the ward despite the half million Hungarian Jews murdered during the Holocaust and makes no mention of Hungarian cooperation with the Nazis in sending. Jews to Auschwitz. MUST've finds Poland's use of state funded museums to retail history deeply worrying for years ago I believed that I lived in a democratic country, which is a part of the European Union, which is in the heart of. Europe. I of course knew that. Confrontation. Between historians, politicians could be difficult sometimes, but I could not foresee that my country would somehow slide into a sort of a hybrid regime which is not anymore. Lieber Democracy, which is somehow moving towards a certain form of tariffs regime, and that he story and especially still come museums would be the core of all the controversies and. My life as historian and citizen would almost overnight turn upside down and defending autonomy of story autonomy over the culture, which was something elementary basic to me would become quite a tough issue which would be connected to a price that you have to pay for it. and. Thus, the Institute of National Remembrance were mocked the beach got his start and which was created to expose an examined the most uncomfortable parts of Poland's past. As now, the Cudgel of the law and Justice Party policing debates about Polish culpability and quashing party critics, Janine Hoke, as this nationalist government came to power. This institute began to first of all downplay any historical projects that the government did not support and amplify. Its role, not only in publishing historical work, but then actually creating policy based on that historical work. So they were crucial in creating a policy in which. Citizens could look up. Other citizens, secret police files that Institute for National Remembrance. Set up a process by which the government could identify individuals citizens, and then expose any of the files. The secret police had on them, accusing them of being an informant, including dates and including people who they were accused of informing against, and this was an incredibly powerful tool because it could be used to de legitimize their political opponents, and they indeed used it for that as Lon- justice. Use a state institutions. Institutions to censor and suppress. It nudges the country ever further from the tenets of pluralism and democracy. This political party became very emboldened by the numbers votes. It was getting in the elections and the types of support it was seeing for its rhetoric, and from that embolden stance, it is pursued a number of increasingly authoritarian policies. One of these cracking down on academic freedom. Another one is cracking down on lgbt rights, and another one is being much more assertive about. And public spaces in Poland and what they can and cannot show, but with. Poland. No. Longer under existential threat from Germany or the Soviet Union, how does it sell its defensive nationalist posture? And Applebaum, what they've tried to do is create threats. One of the threats they created. Famously, it was the threat of Syrian refugees, far-right right magazines, put pictures of the refugees on the cover and sort of Muslims murdering Christians, and the I would say it had some effect in Poland, but it didn't last very long partly because there aren't any refugees in Poland. And there aren't really any who want to get in there and how long can you go on about a nonexistent threat? The second thing they tried, which appears to have been more successful was an argument that Poland is. By Gay ideology coming from the West they called LGBT, which actually makes it sound weird I. Mean people don't even know what LGBT stands for. That's an English him, but they use it in Polish and it sounds like a Weirdo disease from the West la injustice is using its control of Poland's historical narrative to shape its current and future one. The present story when in which Poland stands apart from other nations unique in the existential threats it faces. Threats the party believes exempt from Europe's shared commitment to human rights. But obviously, Poland is not unique. Many nations claimed similar hardships as they pursue similar pads. And not just in Europe. The lessons of Poland are relevant oceans away. After the break opium producer, Laya, fetter upstate through story on how Holand far-right seized control of the historical narrative to fuel its rise, coming up what Poland's presidential election last month for tens for the future of Chloride Listrik. Democracy. This, is on the media. This is on the media of federal reporting on the struggle over how Poland hells its history and shapes its future. Before, the Anti Liberal. Right. There was liberal democracy which officially took hold in. Poland, in the summer of Nineteen eighty-nine Poland appeared today on the verge of having a non-communist government president check Yaroslavsky that with solidarity leader like Valente, a few years later after the Soviet bloc collapsed political scientists. Francis Fukuyama. wrote a famous book called the end of history and the last man. History refers to the. But I think still remains a question of whether that process is one that. Finally culminates in a certain kind of civilization. Ran In two thousand, one glass civilization that mankind because in a certain sense, it's the. It's the right. One is the one that fits human nature. What I argue in the book is that Liberal Democracy comes much closer to fitting human nature in that sense than virtually any type of higher form of government or political organization. Social Organization. It was seductive idea that liberal democracy which embraced human rights and equal protection along with popular representation was humanities natural landing point. But it's been severely challenged by the rise of ill liberalism, a mindset that's democracy as possible without those rights and protections. In this view democracy is a winner, take all game in which minority rights are subordinate to the will of the majority. It re styles. The quote will of the people into something fierce absolutist. And it's a rising trend. For reads Ikaria these two traditions, liberty and law on the one hand and popular participation on the other became intertwined, creating what we call liberal democracy it in a number of countries from Hungary, to Russia, to Turkey to Iraq to the Philippines, the two strands of come apart democracy persists in many cases, but liberty is under siege in Poland. The past five years. The illiberal injustice party has quelled its judicial opponents and expanded its control over the courts. It's enacted harsh measures against immigrants and the LGBT community. For years ago, it tried for a complete ban on abortion, but backed down after a wave of strikes. It's turned the state TV network into a party mouthpiece and is increasingly enmeshed with the Catholic Church. It's also done something else. They have used economics journalist historian and some pulled went from having one of the smaller welfare states. In Europe, to having it's either the largest or one of the top two or three as a proportion of GDP. Basically created a welfare state and for people in the provinces, it was so generous that about a million people left the labor market altogether, it was a big economic giveaway, the kind of giveaway usually associated with Social Democrats. Political analysts credit the success of the Lion Justice Party to a secret sauce of xenophobia nationalism and those economic policies. The battle for the future of Poland was raging last summer when I visited Warsaw. that. Day. My guide was eager stuffing. A slight man in his forties with a shaved head. He's literary critic and activist with the left wing publication network critique of politicians. We walked downtown pass buildings claim by squatters, a mix of locals and immigrants. We pass a poster with the face of an older woman named the Bresca, an activist murdered in two, thousand twelve, and now a symbol of the housing movement in Warsaw. Ego says the city's plastered with them. Leaving Warsaw is. With symbols of resistance, a theater with the words feminism. Not, fascism spray painted across its marquee. A mayor openly opposed the law and justice government. He signed so-called. LGBT. Arthur. We propose this, they compete solutions for you community. and. So if they're openly antagonistic to the national government, how does how does the national government respond towards while they are they are trying to? Respond to right. Here the traffic got loud, but he told me that during the last round of municipal elections held in October two, thousand, eighteen, the opposition trounced lot injustice. Turnout was up almost twenty percent, and though the ruling party made gains in rural areas, it one, just four, one, hundred, seven may oral races. Lost elections in October. It's a curious thing. This divide on one hand nationalism has a foothold as evident at November's annual independence March where tens of thousands of Poles filled the streets and. Chanted Glory to Poland in God honor and homeland from the stage. So does homophobia as when thousands of anti gay protesters attacked last summer's lgbt pride march in bialy stuff. On the other hand when we first show last fall recent, parliamentary elections had failed to deliver lot injustice a consolidated victory. Yes, the party retained national control, but it failed to achieve a constitutional majority and lost the upper house of parliament. Here's how yours love queasy editor in chief of the central media think-tank. Couture, libra, and Co author of the new book, the end of the liberal. Mind Poland's new politics explained it. We have quite an you political narrative. Now, that seems to be more pluralistic than for the last four years when we had only the opposition that was mainly from the camp of the previous government more. More or less center right and conservative nationalist right from the low injustice. So now, we this more colorful new parties, new potential, a continual battle for the future. Well, wrestling over the past because the persistent narrative of exceptionalism and cultural encroachment shopped by law and Justice, calls for an ongoing response. Maybe we should talk about the last two years as the process of ups and downs. because. It would be less mythical. Yaroslav love quizzes, describing history not as the unvarnished glory of liberal democracy. But as an ongoing effort to gain and retain freedom, we have the first generations of Poles that were born and brought up in their own independent state. Something like this did not happen since eighteen th century if something is to be celebrated, it is that. I think. Now you have a lot of young citizens dot to not remember. I know that the communist past has been manipulated and a lot of different ways and particularly the anticommunist sentiment. I'm wondering if you think there's value in actually reclaiming some of that communist past I've spent to think of all those. Experiments with political history that we should remember more that it was a political mistake of liberals to leave the history issues to the right. What could be decision is to rather to teach how complex. Police, she's three in the twentieth century walls and how we ended up eventually if these wonderful event of entering the European Union, and we should stop to teach it to the new generations as a history that is very complex one, and then maybe we could have some conclusions for future. Say. that. We're definitely heading for authoritarianism and Applebaum door would I say that liberal democracy has one and we'll definitely beat this thing. Often it'll be fine I. mean this. This I think is now what politics is the assumption that we had finished with those arguments and that we'd all learn the lessons at the Second World War or whatever piece of history you WanNa, point to. Was Wrong. So now we entered the stage in which we have kind of permanent bottle and skirmishes one after another, it's not going to be the world that would be over here. It's like, okay. So this elections were won by liberals, but we should hope and work for the future and we should win next elections. Last month, new elections were held this time elections for the country's presidency in Poland. Poland conservative president Andre Doodo has narrowly won a second term after he defeated. Warsaw's liberal mayor. In Sunday's vote. This is a tight race. We've seen in the Polish presidential election since nineteen, eight, hundred nine, also the highest turnout because both candidates did present a very distinct vision for the future of Poland. The Latin Justice President is empowered to approve and implement policy from the law and justice controlled parliament. Furthering its ability to attack independent institutions and consolidate control over the media. I asked Queen if the results have changed his perspective, obviously the low injustice ruling-party one. This is the main point. There will be the continuation of politics of the illiberal turn. No doubt about it, but he says, that's not the whole story. The opposition party civic platform had nominated an exceptionally candidate who pulled dismally, but then fate in the form of covid nineteen intervened. The elections were postponed by seven weeks, and that candidate was replaced with that very popular worse on their Rafalski in just four weeks, garnered millions of additional votes. Shows Ski. Sweet for weeks only, and he was able to ten million votes, the opposition gained and through leader that launched his career, not only as the mayor of Warsaw before. But now as owens, you positionally the just got ski having lost the election by a razor thin margin now is trying to turn the millions who voted for him into a movement of NGOs, local government think tanks and individuals to defend civil society the new. Solidarity Movement. That's the name. Ski Gates, his his project will be announced the end of August or at the beginning of September. Symbolic to refer to their all solidarity movement. The old solidarity was a self-governing trade union that became a social movement credited with toppling communism in Poland. Tra- scuff ski hopes to tap into its legacy of unity and change. For Quiz, the latest election is a setback, not a defeat. No. He says, this wasn't a fair campaign. Law, and justice clearly tipped the scales, the state media. But it was a legitimate one votes were counted. So that just means the fight continues. What would happen in for years? My goodness who knows? We have a lot of fears, the future, but the same time. What could we do? Wish start to work from below and we should really rethink the frames of unpolitical world we should. Take, seriously, loan justice success, and their support. And stuff to work again and again. It was foolish to think a generation ago that we were at the end of history and it would be equally foolish to think that the story is done now. In Poland as in the United States history is being wielded in service of opposing visions of the future. And the question of who will inherit that future. That comes down to WHO's willing to fight for it and what stories they tell. For on the media I'm Leah fetter. This week show was reported and produced by Laya fetter on the media is also produced by Alana Casanova Burgess Michaelo insurer John Hanrahan Sandra Ellen in L. Louise's blonde. Do we had more help from Eleanor Nash and our show was edited by me? Our technical director is Jennifer Munson our engineer this week with Sam. Bar Special. Thanks to WNYC archivist Andy Lancet as well as voice chick, all the shack and Victor Dynasty. Catcher Rogers. Is Our executive producer on the media is the production of WNYC. Studios. I'm Brooke Gladstone.
Podcast: Escape from Warsaws Ghetto: Memories of a Child Witness
"Serve it on that. I had to tell my story. That's why i survived. I'm here telling what. I'm supposed to tell You in words surviving the holocaust finding a podcast preserving the testimonies of those who survived the atrocities committed by the nazis and their racist collaborators in the nineteen thirties and nineteen forties and who shared their stories at united nations holocaust. Commemorative events around the world reminding us of the human cost of hate and our responsibility to fight injustice. Some survivors have agreed to join us for an in depth conversation. This is the story of paulina. Wollo halina wallow and her parents. I've safely on the shores of south america in nineteen forty eight as jewish refugees from their native poland. The month long voyage by boat from italy's port of genoa was but one stretch of a lengthy journey from surviving. The warsaw ghetto to eventual immigration to peru just a toddler when the nazis stormed her. Family's confining living quarters in the warsaw ghetto halina says the smell of fabric left lingering reminder of the lifesaving moment. Her grandfather hid her between textile goods as women and children were piled into german trucks and taken to death camps following her grandparents deportation. Her father organized a successful escape from the ghetto. One of many times their fate would be defined in an instant speaking to us from her home in capital city. Lima halina explains how her family's escape from persecution. To safety was helped by demonstrations of humanity by the unsung heroes of the holocaust non-jewish europeans and other rescuers who risk their lives to protect juice eighty four years. Old halina says fulfilling. Her purpose of survivor means telling her story. This interview was conducted in spanish and has been translated seeing but saw via. I was born in warsaw poland in the year. Nineteen thirty six. My full name is kalina stein and then all once. I was mary it. If you could briefly describe your first years in poland. What was your childhood. Like your comment you. Well i practically didn't have a childhood. Unfortunately because we was for years old the second world war started the nicest took my parents apartment. Ally grandparents bernie. I'm buddha's in the. Because i was on. I was four or five years. What i can tell you is what my pardons told me on allie. He's have eat the ones who saved my life winds. There was a moment when your grandfather hid you correct. Could you tell us about that moment. They won't sign us. My grandfather produced jackets and coats beginning several years before arriving to the ghetto. And that's had a lot of five hundred in addict so the day. The nasty came in their tracks. You realize day came to take all the world bank and children that will work with sewing machines so my grandfather grabbed me shall between the fabric material. Seen these were how he saved me so the german square taken these life. Mama one do you remember. You felt in that moment. Lord i remember by this mellow no. That is most often make us remember. Even now at age eighty four and just short eighty four. Every time i go into a fiery shop. I remembered the mommy it's part of my life say i will never forget. Of course life in the ghetto was very hard. They had asked without food without medicine and they were know how to work for a very very har life in nineteen forty two businesses. Took my grandparents on my uncle rev linka after the after my father decided to organize escape from the ghetto. And we did so. He taught us to pray. The lord's prayer in portage is big perfect polish until today. We keeping to deny as christians. Luckily my father had a lot of non june's france in the area and part of our so. He arranged to have each of fast leaving in three seventy one jewish homes while for my mom. Another for my father another for me. I was taking get off by a friend of my father's a good woman who told me read that right. I was with her until nineteen forty five when the war ended in neon depose. Where order to tourney eighty jew. There was so my party squid and visit me much. They bissett me the one able to mind. This is how we save ourselves. See free me when we have escaped and leaving the area nereo were so my father was taking us and no jewish polish prisoner through the nazis arrested nor realizing he was jewish. Luckily they didn't kill him but they did take him to work in forced labour android in the crook factory where they may false wagging automobiles brands. All cars. I've gone when the war ended helena's mother took her to a convent where she was cared for by nuns at the end of nineteen forty five holy and in her mother set off for a new temporary home out of the country. Grandma janowski so they. My mom and i laugh and italian woman who came moms. Frank combines my mother to take us to italy. This was all happening in the year. Nineteen forty-five when the war ended. Well my mother had already lost both barnes. A her older brother. She was sad and decided to eat. While living in milan. Helena's mother received letters from family and south america encouraging her to move her family to join them in peru. She worked in a fashion boutique to support herself and her daughter. Meanwhile a young. Lena attended school at seventy. No and institution for jewish refugees and survivors of the war. It was on an outing for the children at sabatino that the portrait of halina without her father and her mother without a husband would change quite something. A has one saturday or sunday. I don't remember exactly. He was a day that the school organized scotian through the city for us to explore milan by bass. I was in a mazda children. They were only a few of us sitting on the loss to be seen a famous catedral of land and the city for a moment. The bus stop at an intersection. I the window and so my father. That was a miracle. I jump off the bus and told the driver he will. I will stay with my father. My father was consumed with joy. It was a big moment for him to it was a life changing mom. And how do you explain that you want me to tell you. We've kinda splaying taoist gods. We'll i didn't look for him. He didn't look for me. It was a life changing moment to where we were living now See where my mom. We're on the three of fast near deciding while we will do next me. North american soldiers have my father but when the war ended he was always that way. It wasn't berry tap situation for any w my my show. My father always irs to receive from his family talking about what a beautiful cd lima was that it was a good country with good people inside so we will remain in line for a couple of months until my parents decided to make it trade on i said on embarking on a journey to a new life on a new continent helena's family of three set off on a ship from italy's port of genoa a month long trip at sea before docking on the shores of real. They finagle just a pit stop. On route to their final destination. By land air and sea making stops in bolivia's labus in peru's southern pocket until finally arriving in lima holy was twelve. The year was nineteen forty eight so we arrive in forty-eight finally very happy i fall because our lives were safe and second because my father was happy because he was now with his brother. We settle in the neighborhood call need at florida's at what point did you feel relief. Did you feel where safe. Kfi in ambien. I think in believed in utility to buy once we arrive in bolivia. It was a bitter. Because you're so far from warsaw am yes for my mom. It was a cd. She never to see again he was were they kill her parents umbrella so of course she never wanted to sift through them wash sovereign in the fact that we got to lima when we did safe and sound the three of us was also a miracle. Coming out of the holocaust was truly a miracle in my life in peru have been my happiest years i because i made many friends. I have two girlfriends who until today at my friends and second because i admit my husband in lima. We fell in love with mary in nineteen fifty nine. He was a civil engineers. We had three daughters and six grandchildren. Congratulations and how do you explain your surviving. The holocaust is there a special reason. You feel you survived. Its has seen. Is i think it was my destiny. It was my destiny in sound way with gusts. Raise to survive if those years. I in worse-off ghetto. Then the other countries. I've passed through until finally arriving in this and i believe this is really a horrible country until today i have a lot of love for i. I feel very identify with the country. Fire more than i do with paulin. Have you ever returned to poland on. I never wanted to go back. I have a sound wet serious problem with paulin. I had three daughters and six grandchildren. I want to pay my policy decent shape. I'm paula has denied me. He has been a great injustice. I speak perfect polish. But don't have a single document because everything was burned into get. I think a sample in poland. We realize that everything. I told it is the owners true and they have committed a serious injustice stores with history as it is one would think this is a problem for many people left poland. Yes every child each of us who has survived the holocaust this terrible war. We have our on the story. We've invited you another survivors to share their testimonies on his podcast to be able to share and preserve your stories. Why do you think this is important. Lays out so full so it will happen again. It was a terrible genocide. The holocaust needs to be a study subjects. School must recognize what happened on the momentum. Recently is so you have been again because six million people men women children die. That's important for the united nations. Should also play a part in educating jewish. Who don know what happened was her life and i think is to share happy to tell the story. I am very lucky. I didn't have to go to concentration camp because louise cape you participated in a commemorative event with the united nations. What did that mean for you. How did it feel even more. Will i felt this on the invited me. I told my story everything that happened to me. My family i had to tell my story. That's why i said why. I'm here telling what i'm supposed to tell one. Because they will that. Thank you very much for sharing with us today. Thank you for the interview. They hear daycare wall. You've just heard from halina. Wollo who along with her parents survived the holocaust escape and with the help of non-jewish families credited with taking them in this is in their words surviving. The holocaust finding hope a podcast by the united nations outreach program on the holocaust you can visit. Www dot usc dot org forward slash ford slash cost remembrance to find out more about the organization's holocaust remembrance and education program. And how you can participate. I'm natalie hutchinson. Thanks for listening
Olympians: Halina Konopacka
"Hello for wonder media network. I'm jenny kaplan and this is encyclopedia britannica. Today's we'll mannequin was one of the most iconic characters of poland's inter-war period. She captured adoration of the public with her. Outstanding style. intelligence sportsmanship and courage. Please welcome halina. Helena was born on february twenty eighth nineteen hundred and central poland. Growing up in warsaw halina excelled in many sports. She took up swimming ice skating. Tennis horseback riding and leader skiing. When halina was eighteen years old poland gained its independence after one hundred and twenty three years of russian rule. The country became known as the second polish republic. As lena entered her twenties her ability to quickly master any sport shapes the course of her life in nineteen twenty six. She set her first world record in the discus throw after just a few months of training was followed by two more records in nineteen twenty seven nineteen twenty eight halina never lost a discus event for the entirety of her career. She also competed in the high jump. Long jump javelin and pentathlon seemed. There was nothing she couldn't do. Halina made her olympic debut at the ninth olympic games held in amsterdam and nineteen twenty eight in a short olympic channel documentary. She said oh. The day of the discus throwing was july thirty first after a cool rainy morning. The tim'rous dutch son had broken through the fog and baked the greenfield's in gold the stairs leading up from the dark labyrinth. The dressing rooms ushered me straight onto the field to red circles. Throwing circles drawn on the grass and two curved lines remarked in chalk one at thirty five meters the other forty meters away. I had only one wishes. I picked up the discus. Send it where the outermost distance of forty meters was whitened with calcium the disc dutifully obeyed stormy applause. Thunderously stamping feet. Compliments questioned film and photographic cameras snapping all merged into one great chaos. Just four years after taking first discus kalina won the first gold medal for poland for a nation. Recently reborn helena became a symbol of polish pride and success. Not only for her skills but also for her grace beauty and iconic red beret. The polish president awarded her the cross of merit her success in amsterdam leader in nineteen. Twenty eight helene married. Colonel metric chefs key diplomat military officer and treasury minister a little more than a decade later. World war two broke out and the security of poland's gold reserves were at stake. The nation's bank had started to accumulate gold reserves in the inter war period to stabilize the polish currency. Within the first few days of the second world war it became clear that these reserves needed to be relocated. Helena's husband was tasked with moving them to safety on september. Seventh nineteen thirty nine the convoy moving the gold set out under the cover of darkness for more saw. The convoy was made up of ordinary buses and cars halina. Now thirty nine was the last one in the line. She would later recall. We headed south towards romania on a black blue night. The moon was read from being so close to mars a planet which as we know predicts horror wore destruction and death among the personal item. She brought with her. Was the small gold desk. She won for poland in nineteen twenty eight though she would later lose the metal still. She was successful in this new venture. The gold safely traveled from romania to stumble to beirut to the south of france to london and finally to new york halina then settled in france with her husband before moving to the united states in september of nineteen forty one. In her later years she explored other talents. She became a poet founder. The ski school designed clothes and at the age of sixty went to art school and became a painter helena's life came to an end in daytona beach. Florida on january twenty eighth one thousand nine hundred eighty nine. She was eighty eight years old. Her ashes were taken to poland buried alongside her parents in warsaw month. For talking about olympia nhs to get one manteca in your inbox. Checkout manica weekly newsletter. Follow encyclopedia manica on facebook and instagram at encyclopedia lamonica special thanks to liz. Caplan my favorite sister and co-creator talk to morrow for you go. I want to tell you about another show. I think you'll like push black. 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S3: Best of 2019: The Basilisk
"Please note the story. You're about to hear is not drawn from any single version of the Basle esque accounts of this mythological creature vary across the centuries we've combined combined several disparate interpretations along with the generally accepted account of the creatures literary and Cultural History for the purpose of this episode long ago in the Dry Mediterranean hills of Sereni three nights it's were galloping on their tall steeds. The Hot Summer Sun beat down on their chainmail leaving their bodies slick with sweat and they're spear hands slippery but they were used to these conditions and road on. They had to get to the castle. By nightfall they had had good tidings to deliver. They joked and chattered from horseback boasting about their prowess in battle and speculating about the feast. That awaited waited them that night all the while they tossed a wine skin between them anything to take their minds off the heat but they kept hip. There is on the dusty road watching for animals. Even small lizard might spook the horses and hold them up a few miles out from the castle. There watchful gaze was rewarded. All three nights noticed the little serpent no more more than a foot long. Lingering in the middle of the road to of the riders swerved keeping their horses is away from the slithering withering thing but the youngest and most foolish of the nights was riding straight towards it and instead of altering his course he he angled his spear ready to display his excellent aim. He'd kill the little thing in a moment as his horse flew past the nights beer made contact but as it dug into the beast's flesh. Something strange happened. It's blood it began to flow up. The handle of the spear the night stared in horror. It flooded past the weapons handle than onto his hand his body his horse man and beast toppled into the dusty road as their companions looked don in horror. The creature he had stabbed was no ordinary snake it was a battle Isq and ended deadly poison had turned their friend into an oozing shell as if he'd walked out of a burning house his hair was blackened his face a mess of blood and disintegrating skin his eyes standing out from the pile of debris wore a look of utter terror. Welcome to mythical monsters apar- ast original. I'm Vanessa Richardson every week. We dive into history's most legendary monsters. In telling their stories we hope to shed light light on some truths hidden behind the creation of these beasts where they come from what they symbolize and how they expose humanity's greatest latest fears you can find episodes of mythical monsters and all other podcast originals for free on spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts to stream mythical ethical monsters for free on spotify just open the APP and type mythical monsters in the search bar at par cast. Were grateful for you our listeners. You allow allow us to do what we love. Let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and Instagram at podcast and twitter at podcast network. And if you enjoy today's episode the best way to help is to leave a five star review wherever you're listening. It really does help us today. We're discussing the BASSIL USC. The King King of serpents a deadly hybrid beast born from an egg laid by a rooster and hatched by toad. The Bassil USC risk of legend could kill with a single glance it terrified medieval Europeans and decorated many of their manuscripts even making appearances in the works of Geoffrey Chaucer and Leonardo Da Vinci. Today it's best known for its role in J K Rowlings Harry Potter the Chamber of Secrets But the story of the Bass Lisk goes back much farther than that all the way to ancient Rome the earliest written description of the Bassil esque comes from the ancient Roman philosopher. Plenty the elder in his book Natural History completed in seventy nine Z.. E. This monolithic. Thirty seven volume work covered everything from bees to mathematics to monsters. Plenty bacilus lived and Sereni now Libya and was a small creature not more than twelve fingers in length it looked like a little snake worrying a white diadem or crown. Hence its title the King of serpents and unlike other serpents it walked upright wall plenty described the bacilus as a small unassuming creature it possessed deadly power even glancing into its is his or feeling it's breath lead to immediate death. It's likely this destructive ability that led to an ancient Roman myth featuring the beast bacilus slid through the underbrush. It's upright head head. Held high above the grass plants withered beneath. It's poisonous breath as it passed. This left a trail of death through the otherwise verdant Mediterranean region of Sereni when the Bacilus dark impenetrable is looked upon distant trees they to shriveled and died even the rocks over which the bacilus slid cracked destroyed by. It's poisonous is power. A shepherd leading his goats through the forest chanced upon the dry brittle path. The serpent had left in its wake. He was so distracted by the sight that he forgot his goats. He stood there for a long moment gazing at the dead earth. He'd been seeing seeing more and more bacilus Kyun destruction of late so much it was starting to change the face of this land. He knew so well. The bacilus numbers seemed to be growing the shepherds snapped out of his trance and started corralling his goats. There was nothing he could do about the Basil USC aside from get his goats to pasture as soon as possible and pray that he didn't meet one of the serpents in person he then went inside his hut and turned in for the night dreaming of serpents. He knew that even nights feared the beast many had perished in attempts to slay it when the bacilus blood ran up their spears and poison them horrifying images of the basle EST defying nature pass through his mind until he shot up awake. A shiver ran down the shepherds back as he hurried into to the mounting morning heat. There was a strange tension in the air. Today as the shepherd weaved his way through the woods he saw. Aw more of the dry dead bacilus paths. They were everywhere he turned but he didn't see any snakes and soon he made it to his pasture. He stopped at the site of the open field drinking in the warm bright sunlight a pleasant breeze. He's blue softly across his face. Perhaps today was a normal quiet day. After all a day for lulling in the grass and yelling merrily Sara Lee at his goats he reached for his wine skin ready to quench his dry lips with a long sip justice. He untied the bag. He he froze. They're not ten meters away was a serpent and not just any serpent. It was Standing Upright Upright and had a small white crown on its head. It was a vassilis. The shepherd spun away from the serpent immediately. Turning his eyes skyward as he gasps in fear he had not made eye contact with the creature. If if he had he would be dead he knew he had to get away from the bacilus. Get once before. It's poisoned breath reached him. His only choice was to run and pray to the gods that the Bacilus wasn't as quick as its venom was deadly. He Ran Dan until he was gasping for air. His fear driving him behind him. He heard a persistent hiss and the soft crumpling sound of plants plants withering to the ground. He couldn't look back but he knew it was getting closer as he approached a large olive live tree. He threw himself up toward. It's lower branches. Perhaps if he climbed high enough he would escape an instant later. The shepherd word cursed himself as he saw the folly in his plan the bacilus would simply wither the tree with its poison glare and once the tree was Feld the shepherd would have nowhere to go. He was doomed. But as the shepherd scrambled up the tree three he disturbed a weasel sleeping below it. The Weasel scurried out of its nest squeaking angrily. It came face to face with with the Basle ask the Bass. a-list fixed the little furry creature with it's icy gaze but instead of immediately toppling to the ground the animal let loose. It's oily skunk like spray as it fell and then the bass a-list toppled to the ground with it stunned. The shepherd climbs down from his perch to gaze at the two corpses. He had heard that the weasels odor had a strange range and deadly effect on the otherwise impenetrable basil USC but he was sorry to see that the rodent perished in the struggle he would have liked to thank his saviour the shepherd for all the fear he felt on that deadly day was lucky he lived on on but what he lived on to see was a sad world slowly sarunas infestation of bacilus worsened until there was was no vegetation left eventually the entire region was turned to desert the desert we now know as the Sahara some scholars believe that plays description of the Vassilis and other ancient accounts of the serpent are based on Egyptian cobras which which lived in the deserts of North Africa they were hunted by a weasel like animal the ichneumon domesticated by ancient Egyptians and while Cobras Olga's couldn't kill with a glance they were certainly deadly but the belief that an infestation of Bacilus was responsible for transforming Sereni Marini from a lush verdant landscape into dry desert has more opaque origins to understand it we can go back to one of the central functions of mitts. They explained the natural world and it's strange incomprehensible phenomena in human terms uh-huh for ancient Greeks in their abundant homeland. The lifeless expanse of the Sahara across the Mediterranean must have seemed ominous. How how could a country becomes so barren would their own land and up the same way? The story of the Bacilus explained why the landed Sereni was so dry and also reassured the ancient Greeks and Romans that their own land was safe as long as they avoided the plague. EGA bacilus confessed station. It acted as myth often does as reassurance but the legend of the Bass Lisk Lisk was just beginning by the Middle Ages. The King of serpents became much more menacing coming up. We'll explain the evolution of the Bacilus in the Middle Ages when the dreadful snake grew wings now back to the story in the first century CE. Plenty the elder copied down down the earliest legends of the Basque in his natural history. A monolithic texts. That is still read today. But it wasn't just the ancients believed and in the strange deadly powers of the basle EST in fact it wasn't until the Middle Ages that a more comprehensive picture of the monster emerged in in a genre of text called Best Jerry's best Jerry's or illustrated catalogues of animal. Stories were wildly popular in the Middle Ages. Second only to the Bible. Their stories were drawn from ancient myths and legends as well as contemporary scientific thought and they often emphasized sized strange monstrous creatures. Like the Basle USC. They also had a tradition of drawing snakes with wings and one pair of legs in their illustrations situations a practice unrelated to the basle ask but perhaps it was these winged legged serpents that led to a strange new origin story for the Basil Isq and origin which first emerged around eleven hundred Z.. E. And started to populate best aries thereafter an elderly rooster paraded around the forest the comb on his head trembling in the cool night air. He was a proud beast east but his many years were weighing on him. He didn't know where he was going to sleep tonight. He was used to sleeping in the farmers henhouse but he described out into the night of his own volition. He'd made the choice to run wild through the forests now. His feathers were bedraggled. His spindly legs were tired and he was ready to lay down and sleep but he was so alone. If only he had had a companion suddenly he heard the sound of another rooster. It was crying somewhere in the forest. I not so far away. If he ran a bit longer he might make it to this feathered friend and perhaps they could spend the night together with a shrill who of his own. The rooster started to run through the woods and not too far away. He was delighted to find. Find the source of the distant cry. This new rooster with a proud shiny coat of feathers and a towering comb was the most beautiful creature he'd ever seen the elderly rooster and his new companion produced. Just a strange egg together but as they were both males they weren't sure what to do with a thing neither had ever laid an egg before and they hadn't paid aide much mind to the activities of the hens and so happy in one another's company. They left the thing on the forest floor by the banks of a small Paul Pond and wandered off into the forest for new adventures. Meanwhile the little egg languished cold and alone a toad hopping along the Bank of the Pon happened upon the egg. She waited over to inspect the round object object quickly. She identified it as an egg not her egg or the egg of another toad certainly but an egg nonetheless an an egg that needed hatching and so the toad squatted down the thing extending her tongue every now and then to catch a fly and unweighted eventually a soft cracking sound erupted from beneath her. The toad scooted off the egg. Her bulbous eyes is peering at the egg. In anticipation what creature would emerge from within the toad jumped back in surprise as the eggshell crumbled. Even she the forests strangest ugliest creature was alarmed by what she saw. A A chick with the tail of a serpent stumbled out of the egg. Hissing angrily this medieval evil origin story of the BACILUS recorded I around eleven hundred ce was repeated with slight variations by a host of well respected figures. These included Saint Hildegard of Bingen. In the mid twelfth century English scholar Alexander Neka in the late twelfth century and Theologian Region Bartholomew Glenville and Friar Vincent of Beauvais in the thirteenth century. Illustrations of Bacilus says roosters with the scales gales and tales of a snake became commonplace in the best areas of medieval Europe. Occasionally beasts of this same description were also called. ka-katrina says the Basle EST of the best year he's tapped into wider patterns of animal symbolism in the Medieval Christian world the the toad for example was often associated with evil poet. John Milton even uses it as a symbol for Satan in his paradise lost. Thanks to these dark associations the toad was inappropriate participant in the birth of a deadly hellish monster to counter the beasts hellish nece. Some best aries also brought God into accounts of the Bass a-list they explained that the serpent's vulnerability to the weasel was a crucial aspect aspect of its place in God's animal kingdom because God never make anything without a remedy despite its deadly nature. Her the best list could still be felled. Thanks to God's wisdom and kindness. The Monster was certainly presented as something that needed a remedy and and not just because it was incubated by an evil toad as a creature born not only of a male animal but as the product of two male animals it went against God's ordained natural order it was also two medieval Christians clearly. Satan's spawn but still. There's no distinct moral attached to this strange beasts origin tale unlike most animal stories in best aries which were often allegorical. It's story wasn't told to teach little children a message about appropriate Christian behavior or God's power rather it seems that it was preserved in part art because it's Roman origins classified it as a real scientific beast and in part because of certain medieval group that took an interest in the basle USC. Two men stood in the dark dungeon watching the fire roaring in the hearth. It cut through the shadows chattos and filled the room with warmth. But the two men weren't interested in creature comforts. Their eyes were fixed on a cauldron hanging above of the flames. Its contents boiling. They were conducting an AL chemical experiment. One which demanded spiritual physical an emotional purity they had to constantly look inwards at their own souls before launching into their work for. They were practising the most difficult of all. Al Chemical Acts Making gold slowly bubbles of foam began to spill over the cauldrons ends cast iron sides. The men looked at each other and nodded. Then they approached the fire their brows coated with sweat it. They prayed silently that finally they'd gotten their recipe right. Then they chanted out the words of one of their teachers words words given to him in a dream the blessed stone one in number. And no more our great elixir most high of the price our as ought are bassil USC are aidrop and our caucus. Their hearts were pounding as as they poured the liquid from the cauldron into the small beakers waiting on the table the sulphurous smell the strange swirling eddies in this blackened pot had the semblance of what they were looking for slowly. The men's eyes began to light up and their hands to shake. The liquid was solidifying into stone. Had they finally gotten the recipe right if they they had. This was a very special stone. It could transform common metal to gold but it could also heal a sick man or or make a healthy man live forever. It could change the life of all humankind for the better the philosopher's stone. It was called but it also had another name. The Bassil USC alchemy was a medieval pseudoscience. uh-huh science it claimed that it was possible to create a very special stone through a combination of chemical and spiritual work the Bass a-list some alchemists thought had a connection to this magical stone. This connection was explained in a compendium of chemical writings written around fourteen hundred. This liquid will coagulate into a visible stone. Called the Basle ask for just as the Basle isq kills a man by it's smear glance so to this stone kills mercury solidifying and fixing it into perfect silver without using using fire. The deadly nature of this monstrous Basil esque made it a perfect symbol for the philosopher's stone which killed lesser things like metal or disease in the case of alchemy. Of course those lesser things were then replaced with wonderful things like gold and eternal life alchemy however didn't just use the basle esque as a metaphor for the philosopher's stone. Some Tech Exon alchemy even went so far as to list bacilus ashes as an ingredient necessary for creating the stone the basil EST being a mythical beast would have been difficult for alchemists to find but perhaps this impossible grocery list was exactly what they needed to keep the hope of Alchemy alchemy alive Mike. The Basle USC alchemy existed somewhere between science and fantasy but in medieval Europe many people considered bittered both alchemy and the Basle USC very real soon real. In fact that there are several historical instances in which whole cities were terrorized by a bacilus coming up. We'll explore some of the real life bacilus sightings sightings that fueled the medieval legends of the beast. Now back to the store. During the Middle Ages the Roman legend of the bacilus expanded through it's consistent inclusion in popular best Jerry's and its association with Alchemy but many medieval people believed these legendary bacilus to be a very real threat. Fifteen eighty seven Warsaw Poland. The streets beats were bustling with business. The laundry was flying on lines strung. Between the city's buildings the chamber pots were being dumped. UNCEREMONIOUSLY ASLI on the heads of unlucky pedestrians winding through the narrow cobblestone streets. But one woman wasn't having a normal normal day at all lady macura Pius dragged. Her daughters nurse made by the hand as she ran from building to building banging on her neighbors doors at each door. She shouted the same question. Had they seen her daughter but but none of them had. Finally the nursemaid was able to stop the frantic mother and calm her surely the girl was off playing with one of her little companion companions somewhere around town. She would turn up eventually lady. Macaroni Pius wasn't convinced. But out of breath and tired heard. She agreed to return home. They could at least search all the rooms thoroughly before alarming. The rest of war saw at home. The women searched each room carefully as the nursemaid had advised. They looked under the beds and in the trunks of linens. They searched the cupboards in the kitchen. After looking everywhere else the nursemaid suggested they check the basement it had fallen into ruin three years before but perhaps perhaps the little girl had titled Down There to play as soon as they descended down those first few steps lady macaroni. PS The S.. And the nursemaid stopped short two small figures lay on the floor below. It was her daughter and her playmate their skin was bluish white their poses were stiff and awkward. The two women started to shout Out The little girl's name agony. Straining their voices but they already knew the truth. The girls weren't napping or playing a game. They were dead mother. nursemaid looked at one another in horror but then the nursemaid as courageous -rageous as she was clever announced to her mistress that she would go down to the girls. She'd examined them to find out what happened lady. Macaroni Pius gave a tense. Agonized nod still in shock at the sight of her daughter. Then she watched the nursemaid made descend after a few steps the made reached the tiny corpses but then she collapsed beside them. She didn't get back up lady. Macaroni Pius was aghast trembling. She ran to the main house to get help. Something something was lurking in her basement. Something impossibly deadly the citizens of Warsaw approached. I Lady Macaroni. Pia Says House with caution. Many of them noted that the air felt unusually thick all of them. Speculated that something supernatural supernatural was at work. They decided against going inside. They left the lady alone. Save the three bodies in her basement alarmed. The city Senate convened to discuss a proper response the senators new the damage. A supernatural creature creature could do to an unlucky city. They gritted their teeth in fear and agreed that something had to be done about the beast and lady. Macaroni Pieces Mrs Basement. But they themselves were just politicians they needed someone versed in the Arcane Arts to assess this case to tell tell them what evil was haunting their people and to put forth a plan of action that would save the city from chaos and death that someone was an old man named Benedictus former chief physician to the King Benedictus felt the fear seeping through the Senate halls and through the city streets. He even felt terror sinking in his own heart as he listened to the story of these strange supernatural deaths in lady macaroni pieces seller but wiseman that he was he steeled his heart. The city needed needed his arcane arts with the bow to the quaking senators he bravely agreed to examine the contaminated bodies. He would do who is best to determine what was haunting the city and find a solution to save Warsaw he ordered the Burgers Ore High ranking citizens to pull all three bodies out of the Macaroni Pius Seller using long poles appended to iron hooks and then he began his examination. The three corpses were swollen like drums. Their skin was discolored. And there is protruded intruded out of their sockets like appalling eggs. There was no doubt this was the work of a bassil USC. The Senate burst into a flurry of whispers. When they heard the news frozen with fear they all knew the stories of the Basle astle USC they knew it could kill with its gaze with its breath with its blood? They knew that it was small but more deadly than Alayan. The news could not have been worse. Finally one brave practical man stepped forward asking the a question that the city leaders were all afraid to hear the answer to Benedictus. Is there anything we can do to kill this vile beast in our midst. Midst Benedicta smiled. Sadly there was a way to defeat this monster but it would require a man of exceptional courage courage he would have to descend into that deadly basement sees the bacilus with a rake and drag it out into the light. This this hero's armor would be made of many mirrors. These would protect him from the gaze of the Basle esque but even with this strange garb the mission was no sure thing. The Senate went back to whispering reassured that there was some path forward but they were still. We'll terrified was there anyone amongst the Burgers who was brave enough for this challenge. There wasn't it turned out neither the military Mary nor the police turned up a single candidate. The tension in Warsaw's streets was mounting and the Senate was whipping itself into a flurry Lori. The entire city would perish if it couldn't find a hero but finally one senator remembered the Salesian Asian convict Johan four languishing in the war. Saw Dungeons Johann had been sentenced to death for robbery. The senator went to Johann Dungeon Cell and offered him a bargain if he agreed to challenge the Bass Lisk and survived. He would be pardoned of his crimes and celebrated as a hero by all of Warsaw. Johan didn't jump at the opportunity entity even he in the face of execution fear death by Basil ask more than beheading but eventually he could not help but grasp but the chance of survival however small he agreed to the deal Johann was dressed in a suit suit of mirrors and escorted to the seller of lady. Macaroni Pius per benedictus instructions. He held a rake in his right hand and a torch in his left slowly. His mirrors softly Jingling Johan descended the creaking staircase his torch sputtered as he traveled deeper and deeper into the dark shadows. The air started to feel thicker and a noxious perfume enveloped him him as he reached the base of the stairs. He paused quaking. He knew that if the mirrors weren't strong enough to avert the bacilus poisonous organise gays or if the deadly breath of the beast overpowered him. Then he would die in agony but if he ascended from the basement without the bassil USC his life was forfeit to facing the Basle esque. At least he had a chance Johan. Oh Han plunged forward rake outstretched upstairs. The crowd waited outside for a full hour. You're breathless with anticipation. Had Johann already been slain. They wondered were they stuck with a ruthless deadly monster in their midst forever. Ever just as one of the burgers began to turn away disappointed and sure that Johann had fallen the door to lady. MACARONI PIA says. The house slowly swung open. The crowd stood wrapped. Waiting for what was about to emerge they trembled rambled. Perhaps it was Johann but perhaps it was the bassil USC. Then a glimmer of reflective mirror appeared. They erupted in cheers. It was Johann. He'd survived the deadly beast but then they saw his rake on the end of the long tool was a strange writhing creature. gasps replaced cheers and the burgers immediately turned away from their hero. Some of them started to run their bodies quaking from even a glimpse of the fearsome deadly beast the bacilus might be dead. But even then it's corpse might still have the power to kill. Only benedictus purpose was brave enough to examine the beast WHO's poison. He explained was rendered less effective by the sun. The people of Warsaw listened listened in awe as Benedictus described the beast. It had the head of a cock with a crest resembling a crown. It's is were those of a toad and it's skin Wardi and scaled it's curved tail. Meanwhile was that of a serpent it was is indeed a bacilus so ends the tale of the Warsaw bacilus. There's no explanation of what happened into its corpse or to the hero Johann. There's even less of an explanation for the origins of the story. One scholar suggests that the tail was first recorded by several humanist writers. One of whom was an alchemist. This alchemist may have written down the tail. Because of his professional interest in the ashes of Bacilus but however he heard the story remains unknown when we dig into the central fears of the story however we can start to speculate late about its origins. The bacilus Warsaw is fearsome because of its sudden appearance in the heart of local home along with its ability to swiftly left Louis and mysteriously kill and it starts with the weakest most innocent members of the community children. That sounds a lot like the the many diseases that ravaged Europe throughout the Middle Ages most notably the black plague medical science was non existent and illnesses like like the plague were mysterious and terrifying just like the desert of Libya was to the ancient Greeks often medieval Christians. Rationalized is disasters like the plague. As God's retribution but perhaps in the case of Warsaw's Bacilus they were turning to a more traditional explanation for for the ravaging forces of nature a mythical beast however the bacilus did not disappear with the plagues of the Middle Ages. It was a fixture and the drama and poetry of Elizabethan writers including Shakespeare. But as the scientific revolution started experts began to sift through the Medieval Best Jerry's designating some creatures as real and others imaginary along with countless other monsters. The Basle Seles was relegated to the stuff of myths. By the end of the mid seventeenth century. The creature had all but disappeared from contemporary thought. Art and common knowledge until July of Nineteen Ninety Eight when British author J K Rowling published Harry Potter and the Chamber of secrets the novel features an enormous fearsome Vassilis Tsk as an evil agent of the central antagonised voldemort. The Mart the enormous success of the book revived the legend of the beast giving it new life after generations of obscurity in two thousand into when a movie version of the story was released the legendary status of the Bacilus was cemented in contemporary culture. Rowlings version of the beast takes some liberties notably. Her bacilus is enormous but otherwise it's not so different from plenty. The elders little snake it's just as deadly and terrifying it still kills with its gaze. And it's still symbolizes the most powerful overwhelming threats. Let's to human life and so the legend lives on it's simply moved from Vella and parchment to bleached paper and movie movie screens where we can feel. It's terror in a whole new way. Thanks for listening to mythical monsters. We'll be back next week with a new episode. You can find all episodes of mythical monsters and and all other podcast originals for free on spotify. Not only to spotify already. Have all of your favorite music but now spotify is making it easy for you to enjoy all all of your favorite podcast originals like mythical monsters for free from your phone desktop or smart speaker to stream mythical monsters on spotify just open open the APP and type mythical monsters in the search bar and don't forget to follow us on facebook and Instagram at par cast and twitter at podcast network work. I'll see you next time. Mythical monsters was created by Max. Cutler is a production of cutler media. And is part of the PODCAST fast network it is produced by Max and Ron Cutler sound designed by Anthony Val sick with production assistance by Ron Shapiro Joel Stein and Carly Madden this episode of mythical monsters was written by Nora Battelle. I'm Vanessa Richardson.
July 18, 2020: Edict of Expulsion Issued
"Today is Saturday July Eighteenth Twenty twenty on this day. In the year twelve ninety King Edward the I of England issued an edict expelling the Jewish people from his kingdom as many as sixteen thousand Jews were turned into refugees overnight hauntingly this edict took place on T. Shaba off the day of destruction, fulfilling a dark prophecy foretold by God. Welcome to today in true crime apart cast original today, recovering the edict of expulsion and other calamities that took place on T. Shabaab. Let's go back to medieval England on July eighteenth twelve ninety just after daybreak. A row of mounted couriers stood watch outside the king's Castle, awaiting orders, a series of pageboys moved down the line, handing out a decree as each career received his orders, he set off the men scattered to every corner of the kingdom, carrying an edict from King, Edward, the first, they rode through villages, delivering the news. All Jews were to leave England within two months time. They were no longer welcome. Panic rippled the country as thousands of Jewish. People were forced to leave their homes. Where were they to go? They were largely penniless out of work and bankrupt bankrupt. Now they truly had nothing. But much as the Jewish people were enraged by the order, they were hardly surprised, they had always been outsiders in this land from the moment they were taken in as refugees in the eleventh century with the conqueror, had invited the Jewish people to settle in England, but at the time only white Christian men could own property medieval England was a primarily agricultural society, but because they could not own. Own Farmland traditional forms of income were not available to the Jewish people, but while their religion barred them from one source of income, it also allowed for another money, lending the Old Testament, and the Torah state that a man may not charge interest on a loan to anyone of the same religion. However, the Bible allowed for a loophole. They couldn't lend money directly, but they could use a go-between. In those days they were few non Judeo options to choose from. The average Briton didn't feel like they could trust the Moore's or the Roma people with their hard earned gold, but the Jewish people occupied their own space in the medieval caste system, not quite as respected as Christians, but certainly better than the other options available, and so they became money lenders charging interest to move money back and forth between. Between Christian men in this way, the Jewish people developed the first banking system, and initially they made a decent living as loan officers, but soon the crown learned that there was money in banking and began to tax the Jewish money lenders. The size of Jewish wealth was over inflated and reports to King Edward, so he tax the moneylenders far beyond their means when they could not pay day were imprisoned. In addition to hostility from the crown, the crusades fostered anti Semitic sentiments in England as men went off to fight for the Holy Land and old narrative, became popular once again that the Jews Killed Jesus Widespread hostility toward the Jewish people caused them to cloister, forming tight knit neighborhoods that they rarely left, but even though they essentially removed themselves from Christian Society, they could not escape racist narratives. During Times of plague Christian neighborhoods were ravaged by disease and decay. The streets were putrid with the smell of death, and the Jewish communities were not immune to plagues. Many began to notice the Jewish neighborhoods soft, far fewer cases than their Christian counterparts. We now understand that the Jewish people survived plagues because they had essentially quarantined themselves additionally kosher laws dictated that they only eat meat prepared by other Jews, and that they wash their hands before every meal ergo their standard of. Of Hygiene was higher than that of the average Brit, but at the time their survival seemed like magic rumours began to spread. Perhaps they were practising witchcraft. The most common rumor was also the most vile that Jews were stealing. Christian babies and drinking their blood, it was the death knell for the Jewish people in twelve seventy four king ads, Rothe bursary the statute of the jewelry, which stated that the Jewish people could no longer charge interest on loans, essentially bankrupting them. No longer able to pay taxes. The Jewish people had no means of income. The kings saw them as a drain on the English economy, and so he threw them out. UNBEKNOWNST to the king, this was a special day on the Jewish calendar. Who the ninth of of a day of destruction King Edward the I had unknowingly fulfilled a dark prophecy. Up Next, we'll unpack the historical significance of this fateful day. High Listeners Har- cast his teamed up with the co-host from the hit podcast, Morbid to bring you the next big thing in true crime and podcast and countdowns. It's called crime countdown, and you can hear new episodes every Monday here's ash and Elena to tell you more. Hi, I'm ash and I'm Alina and we're hosting the new podcast original series crime countdown ever wonder who the worst serial killer was. How about the creepiest cope or which is the coldest? All cases well podcast thinks you deserve answers, or at least some passionate opinions, and they've enlisted us in the podcast. Research God's to get to the bottom. Bottom of things every Monday on crime countdown we'll discuss ten unsettling true crime stories centered around a common theme. We'll try to shock surprise and one up each other, debating each case and its ranking with just a hint of humor. We can't help it. Episode topics ranged from the off, putting to the offbeat and include the top ten fatal romances, the top ten Zodiac killer theories, and even the top ten stolen body parts. We may not always agree, and we may not be experts, but that's what the research gods are for follow our new series crime countdown free on spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. In the book of numbers the fourth. Book of the Torah the Jewish people are said to arrive at the entrance to the Holy Land Moses urges them to proceed into Canaan, but his followers refuse they demand that twelve spies be sent ahead to make sure the promised land was safe. What the spies see horrifies them fortified cities and roaming giants, each more grisly than the last. The spies warned the Israelites that they will never be able to conquer the land of Canaan as God had promised. This angers God who had orchestrated this test of faith, and so he cast the Jewish people out into the desert where they would wander for forty years. During this time, the generation of nonbelievers would die out so that only their faithful children would inherit the promised land. The date of this exodus was the ninth of of thousands of years ago. It is written that from that day the ninth evolve would bring sorrow to the Jewish people, and chillingly the prophecy has come true again and again. In seventy CE, the holiest temple was destroyed by Roman invaders signaling the end of Jewish rule in Jerusalem. In the year one, thirty, three, a Jewish rebellion against Roman rule was defeated and Jerusalem was ransacked by Roman soldiers any Jew who was not slaughtered by centurions was cast out of the Holy Land once again. Refugees without a nation. Over the centuries the Jewish people may do with other supplemental homes. They migrated north to Eastern Europe. They settled to the West in Spain and France, and in the eleventh century, they were invited to live in England until of course they were more useful as scapegoats than a citizens. The Jews were expelled from Spain, but the greatest sorrows had not yet come to pass. On the ninth of of Nineteen Fourteen Germany declared war on Russia Inciting World War One for the next thirty years. The Jewish people would be caught up in an anti Semitic hailstorm as German nationalism gave way to World War Two by the summer of nineteen forty one Jews, all over Europe, had been forced into ghettos and were camps. It was on the ninth of Nineteen, forty, one that Heinrich Himmler formerly received approval from a Hitler to move forward with the final solution, the systematic extra nation of the Jewish people. Death camps sprung up overnight including trae Blinka the most. Of the concentration camps in the fifteen months that trae Blanco was in operation. Eight hundred fifty thousand people were murdered in its gas chambers. Half a million of these people had come from the Warsaw ghetto and bone chillingly the great deportation of the Warsaw Ghetto because on the ninth of nineteen forty two. Throughout the centuries T. Off has brought disaster and death to the Jewish people. It seems like a cycle unable to be broken, but hopefully by learning about these horrors we can become watchdogs working to change fate. Thanks for listening to today and true crime I'm Vanessa Richardson for more history of the Jewish people check out the Hanukkah episode on the dark side of. Today in true crime is a podcast original. You can find more episodes of today in true crime and all other podcast originals for free on spotify not only does spotify already have all of your favorite music, but now spotify is making it easy for you to enjoy all of your favorite podcast originals like today and true crime for free from your phone, desktop or smart speaker to stream today in true crime on spotify just open the APP and type today in true crime in the search bar. We'll be back with a brand new episode tomorrow in True Crime. Today in true crime was created by Max Cutler, and his apart cast studios original. It is executive produced by Max Cutler sound designed by one Boorda with production assistance by Ron Pro Carly Madden and Joshua Kern this episode of today and true crime was written by Aaron Land with writing assistance by Maggie admire I'm Vanessa Richardson. Hi It's Vanessa. 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Coronavirus news, updates, hotspots and information for 10-20-2020
"This is corona virus for one, the latest COVID, Nineteen Info and new hotspots just the facts for October twentieth, twenty twenty. The CDC said if any passenger doesn't comply with wearing a mask while traveling on any form of public transport, kick them off. In fact, masks should be worn anywhere. People gather to catch public transport. Many transportation services have seen some strong resistance to mask wearing. Poland is turning its National Stadium Warsaw into a field hospital to handle the surging number of infected it's expected to be operational within days. Five hundred beds at first with fifty being ICU, eventually getting to one thousand beds. Iran did it yet again, beat the single day death toll from the corona virus? The last record was set less than a week ago. Three, hundred, thirty, seven, dead confirmed Monday Iranian media dubbed it Black Monday theron has run out of ICU beds and non emergency treatments have been suspended Iran's health. Ministry spokeswoman put the blame on Iranians scolding them for not taking precautions. In the UK whales became the second nation to shut down major parts of its economy as Prime Minister Boris Johnson resists calls to do the same throughout. England. All non essential retail leisure hospitality and tourism businesses will close for two weeks starting six PM Friday cvs health is hiring fifteen, thousand full and part time workers to handle the patient's expected during the combination of flu season and Cova. Drugstore chains are expecting a rush if they get approval to administer covid nineteen vaccines once they're approved. The top ten counties with the highest number of recent cases per capita according to the New York Times Bon homme South Dakota Minor South Dakota Sheridan Kansas harding South Dakota Carter Montana Tool Montana Foster North Dakota towner North Dakota Oliver North Dakota, and Webster Nebraska. There are two, million, seven, hundred, twenty, eight, thousand, one, hundred, sixty, three active cases in the United States. The current top ten states by number of Active Cases California Florida Arizona Georgia Virginia Missouri overtakes Maryland. Texas. Alabama and Illinois. The five states with the most daily new cases per capita over seven days are North Dakota, South Dakota Montana Wisconsin, and the BRASSICA. The retransmission rate is currently highest in new, Jersey with a very high one point five one RT Rate New Mexico is next than Montana Alaska and Vermont while the lowest retransmission is found in Maine Mississippi Texas Delaware and New York. There have been a total two, hundred, twenty, thousand ninety five deaths in the US reported as Kovic related with a current national fatality rate of two point seven three percent. The states with the most new deaths reported as Cove Related Florida Fifty Five Virginia Twenty Four Indiana Twenty-three California and Illinois Twenty Two New York twenty Georgia nineteen Texas Seventeen and Louisiana Michigan Massachusetts and Washington all with sixteen. Globally, there are nine, million, one, hundred, sixty, three, thousand, five, hundred, fifty, five, active cases. There are two, hundred, sixty, one, thousand, four, hundred, thirty new cases around the world in the last twenty, four hours against a high of four hundred fifteen, thousand, one, hundred, fifty, nine, the five countries with the most new cases United States fifty, seven, thousand, three, hundred, twenty, seven, India, forty-six, thousand, four, hundred, Ninety, eight, the UK eighteen, thousand, eight, hundred, four, Russia fifteen, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, two, and Brazil fifteen, thousand, seven, hundred, eighty, three. There have now been one, million, one, hundred, seventeen, thousand, four, hundred, thirty deaths worldwide down seven percent over fourteen days for the latest updates subscribe for Free Corona virus four one one on your podcast APP or ask Your Smart Speaker to play the corona virus four, one, one podcast, sound. That brands. CAST powers. Some of the world's best podcasts. Here's a show we recommend. I'm Sonya pfeiffer award winning journalist and Criminal Defense Attorney I'm David Rudolph, I represented Michael Peterson in the murder trial that became the Netflix documentary. The staircase abuse of power is an original podcast that examines the impact of wrongful convictions. We will reveal the frightening ways in which innocent people can find themselves wrongfully convicted imprisoned and even executed. Subscribe to the show on Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. A-cash. Recommends.
STEMinists: Marie Curie
"Hello for Wonder Media Network. I'm Jenny Kaplan and this is encyclopedia Manica. Today stem was one of the most accomplished scientists of the twentieth century. She wanted to Nobel prizes in two different fields. Let's talk about the legendary. Marie are- Curie Marie Squad Dove Skah was born in eighteen sixty seven in Warsaw Poland to two schoolteachers from an early age age her talents were apparent and she excelled in school however her father had lost all the families savings and bad investments so Marie didn't have money money for university instead she took work as a governess at the age of eighteen and used her earnings to fund her sister's medical studies in Paris. What's the deal was that Maria sister would then help Marie at her education. In return it worked out Marie moved to Paris in eighteen ninety one to attend the Sorbonne where she was taught by some of the top mathematicians and physicists of the time she again excelled and was soon offered the opportunity to work in Gabrielle APRIO LIPMANS research lab in the spring of eighteen ninety. One Marine Matt another brilliant scientists named Pierre Curie. They fell in love and married married four years later in eighteen ninety five. This was no ordinary partnership together. The duo would achieve world changing scientific discoveries in the summer of eighteen ninety eight. Marie and Pierre discovered polonium which she named for her home country of Poland few months later the two discovered radium while Pierre focused on studying the physical properties of the new radioactive materials Maria work to figure out how to obtain an isolate pure radium and its metallic state that would make it much more usable for this work. Murray not only received her. PhD But Marie and Pierre also shared the nineteen three Nobel Prize for Physics for the discovery of radio activity in fact when they were awarded the Nobel Prize. They refused to go and accept the price personally familiar because it would interfere with their research not a bad result for your doctoral thesis during that period Marie also gave birth to two daughters autres Iran and F- motherhood didn't Stop Meri's work in nineteen. Oh four she became the chief assistant in the lab that her husband directed but tragedy struck two years later in nineteen. Oh six when Pierre suddenly died. Marie was distraught but put all of her energy into finishing the work to had started started together a few months after his death. Maria was appointed to her husband's open seat at the Sorbonne Making her the first woman to ever teach at that university by Nineteen Eight Marie held titled Chair and Two Years After that she published her most important work a fundamental treatise treatise on radio activity a year later she was awarded yet another Nobel Prize this time in chemistry for her work in isolating Heradia Kiro Radio in nineteen fourteen. Marie saw the completion of the new radium institute at the University of Paris then on World War One hit during World War One Murray and her daughter. Iran was a formidable scientist in her own right devoted themselves to developing being the use of x radiography or x rays in the battlefield. The two created an early version of an x-ray machine on the go for use in military field field hospitals the machine which was located on a special car outfitted with a generator and a dark room was an immense success for diagnostic and treatment purposes Marie and Erin along with twenty other volunteer nurses had to operate the very experimental and radioactivity unstable machines themselves their experience on the field contrasted with the well contain nature of radioactive materials used in lab work BEREANU. The risk believed the fieldwork was worth it. After the war marines radium institute took off as a major hub for cutting edge research in Chemistry and nuclear physics Murray's own work at that point primarily focused on the medical applicability of Radioactive Substances In nineteen twenty one. Marie went on a speaking tour around the world company by her two daughters she went to the US where she met President Harding gave lectures in South America and traveled all over Europe Sara. Murray also spent her time advocating for stockpiling radioactive sources for use in medicine and research. This may seem like a comparatively minor accomplishment compliment put Murray's forethought provided the necessary materials for extraordinary research nuclear physics during the nineteen twenties that research built the foundation for discovering covering the neutron and culminated in the nineteen thirty four discovery of artificial radio-activity that same year nineteen thirty four Marie died died from leukemia caused by her lifelong work with radiation in nineteen. ninety-five Marie Curie became the first woman to have her ashes enshrined in the Pantheon in Paris for her own achievements tune in tomorrow for the story of another trail-blazing stem nest special thanks to my favorite a sister and Co Creator Lizzy Caplan Talk to You tomorrow this week of Encyclopedia. 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March 13, 2021 | The Friends of Israel in Action: Jonathan Craft
"There's a buddhist janitor that works there. And i was up there that morning. Doing my quiet time and i explained to her how she was a blessing to the jewish people for what she was doing there and i also took the opportunity to share with her About what the bible explains about sin. And how the jewish messiah your shula died in our place for our sin and that he didn't stay dead but he resurrected in order to prove to us that he had power over sin and death. And you know that morning with tears in her eyes she prayed. She confessed her sin and she prayed to receive the payment that christ had made for her sin. Welcome to the friends of israel today. I'm steve over with me. As our host and teacher chris kataoka. We are so glad you chose to join us today. Chris where are we headed this week. Yeah now if our listeners. You may not know but friends of israel ministers in fifteen different countries and today. You're gonna actually here to stories about our friends of israel's evangelism outreach. We have two wonderful accounts of men. God called to show and share the love of christ. And we're gonna open our program with one of them. Apples of gold year very familiar with apples of gold. Probably the stories from the life of holocaust. Survivor zeke alisher. But when he became a follower of jesus in israel his passion was to share messiah. Jesus with anyone. God brought across his path. His testimony lives on in the lives of those who minister with the friends of israel. All around the world so after apples of gold. I'm going to introduce you to jonathan kraft. Who is currently ministering in las vegas jonathan's v actually have something in common z. Survived the warsaw ghetto and jonathan today. Honors those like v by serving at a warsaw ghetto memorial in las vegas. Just wait and hear the story. That jonathan's gonna share. You're you're gonna love it. We sure hope you stay with us. But i in the news prime minister. Benjamin netanyahu recently spoke to. Us vice president kamala harris their conversation was wide ranging by president harris congratulated netanyahu on the successful rollout of the vaccine. Netanyahu stressed his commitment to preventing iran from developing nuclear weapons. That would be used on israel. Yes steve this is my take on on this conversation and ultimately What the biden administration is going to have to do in the middle east. You know biden's decision on the iran deal as netanyahu was talking about maintaining that commitment to preventing iran from developing nuclear weapons Biden's decision on whether or not to enter back into the iran deal is going to really show us his level of understanding of the new middle east that exists to lack sanctions and to placate iran. Now would only let those middle east countries that made peace with israel. Recently it would only let them know that america is not serious about the paradigm shift. That's going on in the new middle east today. Going back to the old iran deal will only show the world that america prefers to lead from behind instead of charging ahead with new alliances and partners. That are working together. In the middle east. I often go to me. Or share them. The old orthodox section of jerusalem. Because i know how deeply anderson people have fallen and the word of god has charged me at war them to come to god before. It's too late recently. I was walking on the street in that area. When our children singing an old song. I had not heard and more than fifty years. The singing was coming from a religious elementary school. The song reminded me of the children. I saying within warsaw in one thousand nine hundred thirty eight as i listened. I mourn for the children may youth the sorrowful lyrics from some forty four. The more i listened the less piece. I felt in my art. Finally i went inside to speak with the rabbi. The rabbi a very old man approached me and asked you from. I told him i'd come in because i heard the class singing i ask. Why are you singing. A son of such deep grief and exile. He replied because i like it. I said when i was the age of these children in nineteen thirty eight before the holocaust. I sang that song many times. But i do not sing it anymore because i believed in god and now in new the lord will never hide his face for me. The rabbi asked children should we continue our lesson or listen to what this man has to say. I silently in my heart. Lord guide me. Give me the words to say at the same time. The rabbi called several other rabbis into the room. I began to tell them about myself. My life in poland before the war my experiences during the holocaust how i lost my family in the warsaw ghetto in the concentration camps my arrival in israel and my participation in all the wars through hundred seventy three that i began to tell them about my faith i could not start by declaring i believe in jesus. I wanted them to mention his name. I i wanted them to mention his name. First i quoted several passages from isaiah mica and other prophets about the messiah. All the while. Waiting for the outcry when they realized i was speaking about jesus christ one of the teachers soon. As what books have you read. I wanted the book. I have in my hand. Only bible the book. I love best is it's in deloitte. God's word i continued to speak for about thirty five minutes. Everyone students and teachers alike. Listen carefully when. I finished one of the students asked. What did you come here. Because of the sad song you were singing replied i wanted you to be able to rejoice in the lord with me the jewish people lamented long enough. It's time to call upon the lord. Then you can say with isaiah. We will be glad and rejoice in his salvation. The rabbis just looked at each other in silence. I left the school with a good feeling. I believe many of those. I spoke to were seriously considering the things i said i'd crust. They will read the bible passages for themselves and see the lord alone can bring them out of sorrow and into joy and peace if they only were trust him as the messiah and saghir everybody. I have a fantastic guest with us today. We just heard apples of gold. We just heard from enzi is holocaust survivor. Who loved the lord when he got to. Israel became a believer in the lord. Jesus and he started sharing the gospel with anybody who came into his path. And you know what that legacy is v. lives on all around the world and so for today's the friends of israel in action program. I want to introduce you to a dear friend a colleague. Jonathan kraft who ministers with the friends of israel. In las vegas jonathan. Great to have you on the program. Thank you chris here jonathan. I have fond memories of me and you and linda your wife. I can remember. When i first started doing an internship of friends of israel in two thousand and four i would fly. They flew me out to you to las vegas. My first time to las vegas. And i got a chance to see your ministry up front and personal the personal ministry that you have it's a phenomenal ministry and the thing with friends of israel in las vegas and one of the things i want to know is you're not from las vegas you're from illinois. What what was the calling that you had to pack up everything in illinois and you and your wife. Linda make your way out to las vegas. Yes well twenty. Five years ago we were very active in our local church and linden i both served various capacities there We were both on the outreach committee of our church our pastor had a heartsore outreach and our annual mission conferences that were done there they were they were very amazing that we would do there and we were always involved with those and it seemed like these conferences linden. I would be asked the question. What about you to is god calling you new full-time ministry. We never said no. But we never said yes. Either that is not until nineteen ninety-six. We finally made the commitment to go where god wanted us to go and do whatever he wanted us to do. Friends from our church. They would ask us. Where does god wants you to serve. A africa. Area njai new guinea japan. No one ever said serving the jewish community in las vegas nevada. Well i made contact with three different organizations that did outreach. And one of those was the friends of israel and the director at the time was mcquaid and he told us contact. I rep steve hers. It can chicago and you know chicago wasn't far from us. But you know like all good husbands i procrastinated and my wife got very frustrated. And she says. Are you going to contact steve grzanich and i said i don't know i. I don't know what to do. And she said what do you think that's going to do. Put steve grzanich on our doorstep. I said i don't know but you know chris. Two weeks later steve. Hers was a last minute substitute for another rep. Who couldn't make it to our meeting at our church and so we met with fevers again. The long story. Short of that steve recommended. We spend one month at friends of israel outreach in new jersey that at july and it was called city lights east and we did that and at the end of that the recommendation for us was to attend a nine month long institute of jewish studies program that friends of israel put on again in new jersey and this time but the two week trip to israel we get tended that and during the jewish culture and customs and outreach class i had to miss a class because i had to take our vehicle to the repair shop. I was sitting there in the waiting room and started a with a gentleman and asked me what i was doing. And when i told him i was studying at i j s learning jewish customs and culture. His response to me was. I'm jewish tomorrow. Chabad come and join my family. Oh that's fantastic. That was amazing. And that was my first real contact with jewish family and chris it was great and at the end of our time friends that visual senate to the west coast look at possible place to sir and they included las vegas. And we're thinking moss vegas but we saw when we got there. There was seventy thousand. There were seventy thousand. Jewish people in the las vegas valley. It was the fastest growing population in the country. At the time. So coming to las vegas. That was a no brainer. And today there are over one hundred thousand jewish people in the las vegas valley apple. I approved serving there. And so we're we're here and we're fully convinced. This is exactly where god wants us to be. I've seen you there. And i know that's where god wants you to be. He's you're bringing a light to sin city. And you're ministering to the jewish people there and to gentiles as well. And i know we have a fantastic story coming up in a moment that i that i want you to share with our audience but before we do that. Can you just share briefly jonathan. You're in there. You're ministering to the jewish community of las vegas. what what do you do practically. I think that would be something good for our audience to know. Well You know we got involved here through making context. I remember when we first came. They had they called jewish geography night. We didn't have any clue as to how we were going to make contact with people. But we want to that you go in you. Put your name on a map where you're from and then you know you look for other people in the door. A couple of walked up to high were herald and rachelle from new york and we spent the rest of the night talking with them. When we were done herald hands me as guard. You know i. I know las vegas pretty good. He says you need anything you know. That started a friendship so through events like that we got to know a lot of different people and early on. I got connected with a pack. The american israeli public affairs committee. It's a lobbying. Group goes to washington and You know we. We attended the first one of those. I attended there is about five thousand people there and i think probably out of all that group I was probably the only evangelical christian there and i had the opportunity to share with them. You know I am a believer in messiah and We support israel. We love israel and the jewish people and they were very surprised but yet they were very grateful. And you know today many many christian People attend that. And i remember i got a call from one of the directors there and they said jonathan. We send rabbis. We'd like to send we'd like to send pastors to. What do you recommend we do. And i said well send them together pastors and rabbis and you know that opened the door For for many more people to go and for there to be much more communication between the two and so That's been a real blessing to do something like that We we had the young people. Come out we had seven different groups. Come out and work with us from churches church youth groups and we got them connected with working on the holocaust resource center. Jewish family services. They did painting washing the window washing. The they organized the index. We have Several contact with older jewish people. They help Maintain their property and anything that they need so any way that we can be of service in the jewish community. That's that's what we've done. And jonathan i know from your ministry. You're a very hands on kind of guy as well. You're not too shy to get your hands dirty you you help your jewish friends out by maybe doing their lawn or or helping with some plumbing issues or anything that do to make a connection. Isn't that right. Yes plumbing no pun intended. Make a connection. yes you know. Our savior is jewish and he was not it was not below him to put a towel on and wash flashes disciple seat so i mean he he was a service and and if we can be a service of the jewish people. That's what we want to do here. That's great now. Listen We're gonna take a break in a moment but i want you to know something. You can read jonathan story in israel my glory i. It's a section. It's a new section that we have actually called the friends of israel in action and you can not only read about what jonathan is doing but you can read about what's happening internationally with the friends of israel. We really want you to know something as you're listening to the this broadcast this is more than just a radio program. The friends of israel's more than just a radio program. We are an outreach. To people to make christ known we are an evangelistic outreach in fifteen countries all around the world jonathan is one of many workers that are serving in the jewish community. And i think he's got a fantastic story coming up. Don't go anywhere and we'll see on the other side bird we've been listening to. Jonathan kraft share his stories of how he ministers and the jewish community. And can i tell you something. z. Cancer is is a holocaust survivor. Who who really took the first step in israel for the friends of israel to make messiah known to everyone and his story is such an amazing story. He is a holocaust survivor. That at a very young age was left to navigate the holocaust at the age of twelve all by himself only to land on the shores of israel to ultimately have to defend his new country and then through that the lord used him to minister to many israelis to administer the gospel to them. You need to know the story of cal. I actually had the privilege of sitting and listening to him. Tell these stories in person. He's now with the lord but these stories live on in dr ellwood mcquaid's z. The miraculous story of triumph over the holocaust. This book will detail all of the accounts that he had navigating his way as a young boy through the holocaust. An amazing experience. Steve how can our listeners. Get their hands on this book you know to purchase your copy of see the miraculous story of triumph over the holocaust. Visit us at f. Y. radio dot org that's f. o. Radio dot org or you can call our listener line at eight eight three four three six nine four zero and someone will return your call during our regular business hours. That's eight three four. Three six nine four zero to order in canada. Call eight eight eight six four two five eight four again in canada. That's eight eight eight six four five eight four. Welcome back. everybody we are with. Jonathan kraft a field ministry's representative with the friends of israel gospel ministry in las vegas. A fun place to be. I've ministered with jonathan out there many many years ago. It's fantastic jonathan. We're talking about a lot of the tangible things that you do. Serve the jewish people in las vegas As as a as a minister of the gospel with the friends of israel. I'm interested to know you have a fantastic story about the warsaw memorial ghetto in las vegas. Can you share a little about that story. Sure i'll tell you. The warsaw ghetto memorial located on the campus of temple. Bet shalom a conservative. About a mile. From our home it commemorates the four hundred thousand jewish people that were crammed in there and a one point three mile area. Three hundred ninety two thousand of them lost their lives for bullets gassing to starving a friend of ours a jewish friend henry kronenberg. You're going to be a hundred and two years old this year along with another jewish man saw a advertisement from the holocaust museum in washington. Dc and it offered paving stones from that memorial. Anyone who could plan and put together a memorial to the worst ghetto they applied they got the stones they built structure. It's about it's around structure about thirty five feet in diameter It has Stones mounted beeston's these actual paintings stones mounted in the walls and the floor and it also incorporates two gates iron gates from that ghetto it has six claims that represent the six million that died and the in the gas chambers and burned and It it's an amazing place and it became a musi for our church. Youth groups that came to work with us and henry kronenberg usually comes and he tells his story as survivor and over the course of time Talking with henry. I discovered that When he was liberated at the nordhausen internment camp. My father was in patton's army. I mean it's an amazing story. And how he got connected with las vegas and you know it's just amazing how god works those things out but there was a day you know chris i i i go up and i helped to maintain that and make it ready for You know people coming to see That At the memorial one day. I went up there. I wanted to do. I needed a quiet place. My my wife does bible study and and her bible studies a little noisy out there and There's a buddhist janitor that works there and She volunteered to water the roses. When we were going to be outta town She volunteered to do that for us. And i was up there that morning. My quiet time and it so happened. She took that time to come out and we ran into each other. And i thank you once again for watering the roses. But you know. I had my bible there and explained to her how she was a blessing to the jewish people for what she was doing there and i also took the opportunity to share with her About what the bible explains about sin. And how the jewish messiah your shula died in our place for our sin and that he didn't stay dead but he resurrected in order to prove to us that he had power over. Send out and you know that morning with tears. In her eyes she prayed she confessed their sin and she created to receive the payment crisis had made for her sin man and so you know sharing the good news with her that morning with this janitor. The next day. I went up there. I took her a bible. I showed her where to begin. Reading and You know to but to be honest with you. She has since quit working there. And and i've not had contact with her. But you know chris. God orchestrated that moment in time for her to come and place her faith in the messiah so we praise god for yes and you know. I want our listening audience to please be praying for her. If you're listening. Please be praying for her right now. Listen it's been fantastic talking with jonathan. I told you he had a great story. Here is a gentile. that loves the jewish messiah. I think about this loves. The jewish messiah serves at a local synagogue at a at a memorial a memorial and is able to share the gospel to a buddhist who comes to faith in. Jesus christ the jewish messiah. It's amazing this is exactly what god had planned all along from the scriptures. It's an amazing testament to god's faithfulness in kindness and jonathan. Thank you so much for dedicating your life to the lord to serve him through the friends of israel jonathan. Thank you for being with us. Thank you chris. I i enjoy being here and and god bless you and thank you all to the listeners. For the support the prayer Here amazing thank you so glad you chose to join us today for the friends of israel today a quick reminder you can purchase ellwood mcquaid's compelling biography on the life of fee by going to f. o. Radio dot org that's f. Y. radio dot. Org or you can call our listener line at eight eight eight three four three six nine four zero in canada. It's eight eight eight six six four two five eight four steve. I have our radio production. Calendar open here. And i'm looking at the next four weeks and i'm excited about it because we're gonna be looking at the kings of israel you know. There's a lot of application for the life of a believer with these individual kings and the stories that we can pull for them and how we can apply them to our lives through are actually going to be looking at second chronicles of four weeks. We're going to pull out some of the kings and we're going to look at how god is speaking to us today as believers our host teacher. Is chris kataoka. Today's program was produced by tom. Gaglione our theme music was composed and performed by jeremy strong. Buy kellogg red apples of gold. And i'm con over executive producer. The friends of israel today is a production of the friends of israel gospel ministry. We are a worldwide evangelical ministry proclaiming biblical truth about israel and the messiah while bringing physical and spiritual comfort to the jewish people.
The Witcher, The Dead South
"This is the paste podcast on track. They were yeah. I'm your host Josh Jackson Pace Co founder and editor in chief. And you were just. You're listening to a little bit of blue trash by the dead south. We'll have the band's full three song performance later on the podcast but I I'm joined by pay TV editor. Allison keene front appreciation of one of our our new favourite. TV shows. We're talking about the witcher show. We have seriously enjoyed on Netflix It's an eight episode show Based on the books by Polish fantasy fantasy fantasy author Andrei Hausky. And I'm apologizing if I'm saying that incorrectly and not necessarily based on the Uber Popular Video Game Series which includes which are three wild hunt one of the I think arguably greatest. RPG's of all time you can tell because they don't play the game because they don't play gwent don't play. They don't play gwent in the NETFLIX series. But we enjoyed anyway Henry cavill stars as garage of Riviera. It is an epic fantasy tale of high fantasy tale. which is more? So than game of thrones. There's magic there's all kinds of monsters ancestors and It is a wild ride. I was not initially On board after watching the first episode I watched it well before the this show came out and nobody else in the office had watched it yet. And I'm like I don't know about the series that it felt a little bit that you know the there's did not love the CGI guy and the very first scene. It's bad it is this. It's real bad this weird mix of of high fantasy and kind of fun. Corny cheese bald called goofiness. And and I don't think I got that right away but the further I got into it the I realized I just need to shut up and have fun because it is. It's just a lot of fun. It has a fantasy series that does not try to tone down the fantasy elements no not at all. It is part it's more Zena than Game of thrones and it throws you off because it sets itself up as a very serious R. rated violent fantasy series but it's also sort of campy and it those two tones. I think that's what you said to me about. It actually felt like they were to show runners who had very different vision. Instead we're fighting over what was going to happen And and to me the the camp was always more fun like I wanted to. Whoever is doing the camp to win the goofiness of of the toss a coin to? What's your song? which we we've been playing different versions of all day and can't toss according to your? which is that was the moment when I was watching it when I really was like what is? Is this show because if you look lyrics if you haven't listened to it or you haven't. Let's do it closely. It's basically a tenacious d song and it just so you're in this sort of medieval esque fantasy world. So you've got Rubio very you know Henry Cavill by the way is perfect as girl. He really gets photos gruff well gruff. But there's a hue weird humor to it The he is a huge thing. I think is what he's going for. Constantly annoyed and and you know cavill himself is actually a huge fan of the witcher games in the books and everything so he came into the show as a fan and really really wanted to play golf. And you that comes through. I think anytime you see an actor having a lot of fun with a role even girl is like zero percents fund. Henry cavill timing a lot of fun and so you've got him. He's riding his horse. There's this epic Meiji Monster Stuff. And then the Bard who travels with him starts the song. Toss a coin here which are which is like the earworm of late twenty thousand nine hundred twenty twenty but actually what really a toss according to your which I think proves that. TV shows need to have theme songs again with lyrics. Explain what's happening. Eighties style like this is like a cartoon from the eighties. It's like here's the plot and here's everyone who's in it and the fact that the this. This song is getting covered so much. There's a metal version. Yes you know Alad version every everybody's tossing a coin in the valley plenty and in and you know that's not the show's theme song. The White Wolf theme is the the songs like May. The show's main song. But this is the song that everyone's talking about because that's funny. 'cause it's silly and I think it helps encapsulate really what the show is. All about. People bring back theme songs because we obviously need them. It's not a joke show but it's a funny show like it's not. It's not intentionally dislike. Delivering one liners but the the just overall goofing that the fund that allows itself the have in this very high fantasy world. And there's not a lot of great high fantasy television to to say that the witcher is great. But it's so much fun on this and and that's the thing I think that it's It's a show Josh that the beginning you just have to stop trying to figure out it doesn't make any sense. I think one of the best. Just examples is an episode that hinges on the Law of surprise or the law of surprise. They say and they don't explain to you what that is until the very end of the episode. which would have been helpful much earlier on And that is really the witcher in that and the there are different timelines. It's the spoiler spoiler. Hillary is we'll get there are different timelines and we only say that because I think helpful to note like it's not like a sudden reveal. Oh here it is. It's just sort of of confusing and then we start going. Oh that's not the same kid is that one. They're just. It's a cool idea. That's not executed particularly well and so you've got As we talked about girl to reveal who is the witcher kind of created Meiji being who fights monsters you have Jennifer who is a pure message Who Studies in in a major school and is very powerful? And then you've got Siri. WHO's a child that girl to somehow tied to? You're not sure how it I And she it has some kind of innate magical power and so those three stories are kind of what's weaving this first season and and you know bring along But yeah once once you like wait a minute and that in this and this and who and why why you'd have to a lot of work once you get past the confusing plotting the bad. Cgi I am the weird tones. It's so much fun. It's so much seems like we're not Appreciating here but it really it but the fact that it can overcome all those just things and you just. It's not you don't WanNa have your critics out on my watching this. You just wanted to sort of go along for the ride. Just enjoy it and bring it all Allan. Yeah take it on. So who's your favorite character besides girl who has just sort of core and and also like sort of in the games at least People people always as you sort of a very boring sort of standard protagonists but other than galt other than villains in this that Berlinger anything. Because you don't really know who they are time so there's some good villains Of course Jennifer is Just everything Anya. chiloe tre plays Lazy offer and she is just she goes through a major transformation throughout the episodes and I mean literally is transformed through the episodes and plays both sides of that extremely extremely well in connection with girl too. But yeah it's Do you have a different choice. I guess I love Jennifer I I really like. I think the casting is really good. But gas gear at the The Bard Toss a coin to your witcher. There's a great this sort of sets up a little bit of humor. But there's a scene where Yes gear are and you're all traveling and he's asking girl. Don't you like my singing and girl. has this gruff like you know. It's like eating pie. And finding there's no filling and tasker subset. He just just sputters and goes UNITA NAP. And that just sums up the witcher naturally silly. It's so so silly but it's also such fun. It is an only eight episodes so it's not a huge investment for time and unfortunately season two which has been green lit is not arriving until twenty twenty one which is a really so saver which you have. So we'll be with her Lewis. Tweet tweet will be richer. `less which will be a shame. But in the meantime there there are books trade. Wild Hunt will take you a very long time to play and yes lots of books to read in fact if you go to pace magazine Dot Com. We have a full which are watchers watchers guide of the entire which our universe what to read what to play their tabletop games. There is a A SPINOFF card game gwent. That's like hearth stone. There's just a allot to dive into in this world. And I think this first season gives you a little taste of that lower but there's clearly so much more to explore there so much more to explore so that's our appreciation the check it out currently available on Netflix. All right well we always liked to end the podcast music. This week's musical guests is Canadian. Bluegrass outfit the dead South who stopped by our studio in New York. They're currently touring in support of their latest album. Sugar joy which is a first to hit number one on the US. BLUEGRASS progress chart. Here's pace Brad. Wagner with the dead South Hi everyone we are live at the studio New York right now with dead south all the way from Sasketchewan guys. Thanks for coming thanks for having us. Yeah we appreciate it very much. We're about to share your music with the Internet. You can play play three songs today off sugar joy which is outright now on six shooter records and Dan tell us it's coming up I start with a black lung relief Aw home alone Rose's they go into go does guys. Okay Laura Tomorrow I'm live Yeah the Komo came Storm Sieve de Ville Donald Arthur J. Bali James Wig and showing off pigging scabby open. Mind the Ooh I saw. ooh thank you guys. This sounds great. This is exactly I wanNA start my Thursday. Thanks for coming in and doing this. Yeah you've got a good crowd tuned in right. Now there's people all over the place Russia's here western New York Illinois Ohio sear. There's just A lot of enthusiastic and supportive cursing going on in the in the comments section. So good for you. The Internet well done sixth grade. Keep becoming guys. Thanks for doing this and Can we talk a little bit about the plane. Warsaw tonight in Brooklyn There's a ton of shows and they're all up at at the dead South Dot Com. Of course there's dates announced through the end of twenty. Twenty guys are GonNa be busy. Can we talk a little bit about the partnerships that you guys have developed with ethical ticketing partners to make sure that The the big ticket company and scalpers are not the only ones With access to tickets gyro bashed I mean we try to make it so that you can find tickets on our website so that they take you to the proper sources to buy tickets tough thing. Is that a lot of people will buy up some tickets and and then they will still started selling them for more than we are offering them for which is kind of a piss off for us really don't like that in bothers us quite a bit and then there's people they're just try and scam Ya till you're gonna get a ticket and then they don't send you one and you're paying big bucks for it so we try really hard to Just promote going to our website to buy tickets. That's where they're they're going to be legitimate. And you're GONNA get what you're looking for and there's also some fan pages and stuff where people are selling tickets legitimately as well because they actually care so if you just kind of fall a lot of those things are going to find the right tickets for the right price which is not too much nice good man. Is that something that you're you're fan. Community has embraced. I would imagine that that if people are well aware that this is something that is important to you guys that if your fans see that Sorta Shit happening out in front of the venue that they would pipe up and say do not here. I mean I think so I think that people care enough to speak up about it and I mean it's it's such a off when when you get a message like hey I just Got Take that was. I paid like three hundred bucks for. Are you kidding me. That's the tickets thirty five bucks probably. Yeah you know oil. Someone's like I paid a couple hundred bucks and it didn't show up I I can't even come the show now. So that's that's pretty fucked. Yeah Yeah Yeah do curse all you want. You should read the comments section after. Yes yes we can curse all we want. Say any word. You want Well cool me and have a great show at at Warsaw tonight a theater of Arts and Philly tomorrow and then you're at the fillmore in silver for spring on Saturday. Enjoy those very much travel safely between all of them and we've got a lot. More music happening was coming up. Second place called blue trash next. It's nice when you're just going into doc in Alabama. We wrote this one. We were sitting around doing some recording. We had no lyrics. We wrote on the day of the show. Now that the show of the EH W recorded it is they pulled. You're thinking mission. Band victim canoed greasy bound you. Hey Brian that man was playing matchup. Each takes away which sounds Sir. John Lewis Hello Music. Yeah they drink Tang. Banner Sound Every House to empty. Stay dry you say they pursuing sound. Hey Trash don how would start. Go on Well what do you think. uh-huh the nine South Damon died. Go Josh How star track. uh-huh the Thank you guys made. It sounds great whereas I'm back here cutting between the camera the close up but I'm hardly cutting it on sticking on the wide because there's so much going on everywhere and it's a good problem to have from from this perspective that there's just so much happening up there that's just WanNa see all of it all the time so while done guys. Thank you elmer fudd from the Internet access. A wonderful question He wanted you you got into. You started talking about Alabama. You guys decided to record down there. elmore asks why what were some of the reasons behind wanting to record Record in that area all right. I got We did our last two albums at home in Regina Highness's scheduling and For this For this most reason why we decided that we wanted to step outside of our comfort zone. Try somewhere knew and our manager. Chris Winters Had suggested trying something in Alabama and Then he threw the name. Jimmy Nutt out. We'd never heard of Jimmy. and Jimmy netted never heard of us either the perfect so he went down there. We're just kinda talking. We look over his shoulder and there's a grammy hope. What's that about? It was bluegrass grammy. He won with You'll oh drivers. Oh Nice they've done one of these things not not too very long ago. All right guys are awesome and yeah just perfect. Chemistry so We went down. I'm just go meet him a couple songs and we kind of fell in love with it. It's really cool area. Yeah Nice timber recorded some demos and then we yeah. We just love the experience variance so much. We decided to go back in January and do the whole thing. We've got a seven time. Grammy winner behind that curtain over there. Mr Bob Alary over there has won seven of those. So we're in EMBIID company. I think it's going to sound. I'm going to be happy with the way this sounds once you go back on the Internet and listen to it. Everyone stoked right now. So thank you guys for making all these people people on the other side of the screens. Happy there's a ton of people tuned in and this is going great. Thanks for making a sound good. I'm not doing any of that. I make any look. Bob's making you sound good and and you're you're making you sound good I what's coming up thirty. Two third song off sugar enjoy which is out right now on six shooter records We're GONNA play you guys. A song called broken cowboy tune it so make sure so Tara. Tara Taro's sorry Montoro is behind the controls right now is not binding the controls right now. That's yes a lot of expertise in that room back there Long been through quite just like eh fifty five on do Dina's Give our young see. Hello John Low Code the seventy sad. We had two luke kids she it goes down. Sure now They don't yeah ooh Racing Guard Robin Jerry uh-huh Sassy in in God. This guy you saw. Aw It would ooh Now now it's really quiet here. Aw Dude thank you very much coming through and doing this have a great show. Tonight at Warsaw in Brooklyn Philly tomorrow night. The fillmore in Silver Spring Maryland. On Saturday there's a ton of dates the US part of it wraps in Atlanta at the Buckhead theatre on January twenty fifth and there are ton of European dates February through the end of twenty twenty It's reflected very much the comments sections of very international crowd. That's watching right now so Best of continued luck on Sugar enjoy it's out right now on six shooter records and this has been great man. Thank you guys for doing. This gravitate awesome awesome. All right. That's Today's episode. Thanks to Corey Wong for our theme music into our sponsor Himalayas down. That all your favorite podcasts on the Himalayas APP including this one and in our sister podcast live from the studio. This episode was mixed by Bob Mallory in New York and Andrew Barco in Atlanta. And I'm your host Josh Jackson. Thanks for listening.
The Story Continues in 2021
"You've reached liam. I'm not really answering the phone right now but a message or text me and get back to you. Thanks a If you shadow golden. Have i own else's girl. So would you close does just gloves everything around great. He's just two in rain which saw Shorting box is written and produced by joe bender the role liam warsaw is played by ben harming andrew. Davis is our audio engineer. And becca janney is script editor cover art by darby heppner come a little closer and other music by haunted like human. Be sure to check out their newest single soothsayer on spotify and other music platforms. The story will continue in twenty twenty one.