18 Burst results for "Warren Jeffs"
Thank God I'm Atheist
"warren jeffs" Discussed on Thank God I'm Atheist
"Franklin. Oh, dad. The deseret news, you guys. This is the Mormon owned newspaper here in the Salt Lake valley. The used to at least pretend like it wasn't just a mouthpiece of the church. They used to actually try to pretend like because they were the deseret, what was it? The deseret evening news, right? For eons. They were published in the evening, the Salt Lake tribune was published in the morning, and they tried. They honest to God gave it their best. Always with a little bit of a slant. It was clear, especially on the editorial page. But by and large, like, news got reported. It was fine. I don't think they try anymore. I think they're just like, fuck it. We're just a mouthpiece for the Mormon church, so. Yeah. Let's just do it. Yeah, so here's what they came up with. They came out with a think piece an op-ed by a guy named Steven cranny. And the headline is just pretty choice right as right off the shoot. Which is perspective colon, what happens when the religiously illiterate are asked about latter day saints? And by religiously illiterate, you will find out they mean anyone who's not Mormon. Yeah. They're definition. I mean, what their mean is that everyone's kind of religiously illiterate. You know, they're referencing a poll and the poll, so they also reference because they reference a pew poll, but they also reference a Joe Rogan podcast moment. I doubt that there are many of our listeners who also listen to Joe Rogan. Chris Joe Rogan's kind of the worst. It's like the number one podcast. Yeah, I would say they're probably hard listeners of ours who listen to Joe Rogan. Yeah, 'cause it's huge. It's huge. It is an enormous podcast and basically it's just Joe Rogan listening to people that he shouldn't be listening to and having access to people. Yeah, and then not pushing back against their horrible ideas. Yeah. this article in the deseret news complains that they don't seem to know the difference they're talking about one of the, one of those documentaries about the fundamentalist, the FLDS. Right. A totally different religion. Forget that it's based on exactly the same shit that mainstream mormonism is based on. It's a totally different religion, and they were awful and they're terrible and blah blah blah. And these people are talking about the FLDS church as though it is the same thing. As mainstream Mormons. Oh. How could they possibly get confused? It's just. Okay, so basically the whole article is just a big whine about how nobody really knows what mormonism what Mormons are really like and what the church is really about. This sentence or a couple sentences, this kind of sums it up, right? It was clear she referring to this comedian who was on the show and who got some details about the FLDS and the LDS wrong. It was clear she was completely oblivious to the fact that Jeff's offshoot polygamist fundamentalist sect was completely different from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints, which also doesn't use the term Mormon anymore. Called it the Mormon church, right? And. They are so dumbfounded by people getting things wrong about them because they are so convinced that they are the center of the universe. It's literally shocking to them. Yeah, that they are not more mainstream. And that people don't know so much about their like the weird little details of their history. And they get, okay, fine. Mainstream Mormons haven't been polygamous for a long time, right? It's true. But, but they were, they were, yeah. And the Mormons that do get attention in the media, a lot of times, making a lot of headlines are the fundamentalist LDS. I mean, less so for a while, they haven't gotten a but there have been a lot of documentaries about them. Yeah. Here's the thing. The Mormon church, the mainstream Mormon church, the Brigham mites, as I like to call them because they're the because the more look, the Mormon church has fractured and splintered. Hundreds of times. There are so many offshoot versions where, you know, whatever little change the Mormon, the mainstream Mormons make somebody splinters off and goes, that was wrong. Now I'm the real prophet. And, you know, a bunch of people follow them. Which is what happened with Warren jeffs and that whole shit showdown in southern Utah. But the more mature has invested, we and I were talking about this earlier. They invested so much money. Trying to campaign to get people to a, know anything about them, but not the wrong things. Right. And B, like them. Right. And they attached it all to being Mormons. Yeah. Right? It was like, oh, we're the Mormons. Meet the Mormons. They produced a documentary that they released that they then paid to release in movie theaters across the country and probably in other places too. Yeah. And it was just like, look, some of us are actually Brown. And hey, there's a black one. Look at that. It was like this. And we do charity work and we're real, real nice and everybody should like us. It was obviously a propaganda piece, and it was destined to not, to be another thing that nobody fucking cared about. But they paid a lot of money to do it. Yeah. And then, and then they, of course, turned their back on it and didn't pursue it and didn't continue. And now they don't want to be the Mormons. No. And so who could blame anyone for being confused? Right. Right. For not knowing what the Mormons believe or what The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints believes. They need us just stick with a message. Right. For one. But yeah, they just can't, nobody gives a fuck. That's the big issue. 99% of the world. They think that people are like, oh wow, I need to know like, oh, the Mormons, if I just knew more, maybe I would join up. Wow, they seem like such a good group of people. Blah, blah, blah. People don't care. And if they know anything, they don't want to be a part of it. Yeah. Like they, they need people to be religiously illiterate so that people will join the Mormon church. Right. Because if you know about it, there's no way you would join it. Yeah, we got bad news for you guys. If they become literate about your church before joining, that's game over for you. That's the end of it. But I love this slide too. With religious literacy in the United States, so abysmal. It's hard to know what to make of another recent poll that showed that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints has one of the lowest favorability ratings of any faith, lower than wicca and not far ahead of satanism. Yeah, guys, guess what, people don't like you. Yeah. You guys, like literally. You're the worst. You're the worst. Well, we definitely know them to be the worst. I just think, you know, it's funny because for all of their complaining and whining, tell me 5 facts about Christian scientists. Tell me 5 facts about the Jehovah's Witnesses. Sevent-day Adventists. Yeah. Because if you can't, you're that small, you're that dumb. Yeah. You're a pathetic little church with who happens to have gobs and gobs of money. Okay, fine. You managed to win there. But I think part of the deal is that a lot of these Mormons were raised born and raised in Utah. Yeah. Where everybody you know, every, you know, you turn a corner and there's another Mormon church. So to their minds, it only makes sense that everybody knows because everyone in this town definitely knows a lot about Mormons. Yeah. Yeah. So everybody that they meet on the street has a strong working knowledge of their dumb church. Well, there you go. I don't know. Our listeners would do very well on quizzes about mormonism, I assume. I would think. I mean, that's based on an assumption that we get it right. Well, I'm not saying they know they know all correct stuff. We poison pill that shit all the time. But you know, they'll at least be confident. Well, if you do think you know a lot about mormonism and you'd like to let us know about it, you can do so by writing into a podcast at
Thank God I'm Atheist
"warren jeffs" Discussed on Thank God I'm Atheist
"You'd think so. There's another one? This is because that because he'll tell Utah is part of the is one half of the short creek community that used to be the central home of the fundamentalist Mormons, the Warren jeffs crowd that got broken up and whatever. Right. It is now also apparently the home to hummingbird, the hummingbird church. What? Which is apparently an ayahuasca ceremony church. Oh, good for them. Which I find interesting. The story is largely focuses on ayahuasca as a for those of you who don't know, ayahuasca is a South American derived hallucinogen that people take. It's a psychedelic that people take and frequently they take it not for recreation, but rather for under like, they'll have like a shaman, right? Yeah, it's for spiritual slash psychological purposes. They take the ayahuasca, the shaman is doing their chamonix things. And then they vomit until they see God, right? That may be the order of things. It may go in different orders, you know, your results may vary depending on I forgot shit themselves too. You can shit yourself. That's not a guarantee. You probably will vomit. And you'll see pretty pretty lights and a lot of interesting things. But like I have multiple Friends, like personal friends who have sworn to me that they're doing one ayahuasca ceremony was like ten years of their time. I know people who say the same thing. Yeah. So I and you know, there's now finally some research being done. Into psychedelics and their medicinal actual medicinal properties and psychological aid properties. You know, I've now finally in the United States, people are, you know, there's ketamine treatments. Oh yeah. For depression. Or you can just take it right creation, like, you can just have a little K don't take, don't take ketamine recreation. My God. I like, anyway. Did you try it? No. I really thought you were going to tell us about the time you went into a K hole there for a second. No. I've been in the room. Shocking. I was shocked. I was like, what are you guys doing? Yeah, do it with medical professionals. There are other ones. If you want to do something recreationally good for mushrooms, that'll be fine. Delightful. Anyway, so ayahuasca, it turns out interestingly enough, has been multiple times protected by U.S. courts. Oh, really? As a religious sacrament type thing as a religious thing. So, while the substance is illegal in the United States, it's one of the few drug related things in the U.S. that has actually passed muster of in multiple court cases. So that's an interesting thing. You know, here's the thing. I'm interested in it. I would probably try it. And the thing that would stop me most stopped me from doing it is that there's going to be a shaman there is going to turn it into a religion Y thing. Yep. The one thing that allows it to be legal in the United States is the thing that would most bug me. Yeah. Going into it's just like, can we not? I'm here. I am here for psychological benefit. Yeah. Can I have a psychologist instead of a shaman, please? Yes. Is that a possibility? Yes. And I still want bucket keepers, though. You've got to have people around you because you're going to freak out. You're going to have trouble. You got to be guided through this. Yeah, I mean just for the throwing up. Well, and that's part of it. Yeah. You got somebody's got to hold your hair back. And. Clean out the bucket when you're done. Definitely sounds like a deeply unpleasant experience, but. I've had it described to me by a couple different people now. In a certain amount of detail. And I'm just like, I'm really happy that you have found something that has had this incredible transformative experience for you. But no thank you. We're not selling nothing to do with this. Yeah. Yeah, literally, have anyone describe the process to you? Oh my God. Because it'll start with. It was the most amazing thing in the world. Yeah. But as they get deeper and deeper into the story, they're like, first of all, it tastes awful. Right. And then you throw, you wait like an hour for it to kick in and then you vomit like you've never vomited before. Right. Maybe pee your pants while you're vomiting, possibly shit yourself. Right. Yeah. And then it's this great really great experience. I know. It's like okay, cool. I just felt like the mother creators energy. I bet that feels amazing. And the mother creator made you shit yourself, that seems mean. She's anyway. Yeah, she's got some interesting gatekeeping sort of rules. It's true. Yeah, anyway. All right, Dan. Yeah. This is an interesting development within the Democratic Party here in these United States. Okay. I've heard of them. Yeah. You know, they're the more reasonable of the two. Yeah. That's still not great. They sometimes, they sometimes piss me off. Especially sometimes they're tactics, piss me off. Well, they're tactics. You mean the tactics that are able to almost universally snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory. Yeah. Anyway, they have passed, I guess I should say the Democratic National Committee has passed a resolution, so this is just a party statement, right? It's a party, I guess I don't know if this is part of the platform or whatnot, but they've passed a resolution that condemns quote white religious nationalism. Declaring that, quote, theocracy is incompatible with democracy and religious freedom. Okay. Like, yes, yes. Correct. This is correct. And thank you. This is something that people need to be talking about in our nation more and more, especially as there seems to be a growing number of people who are just kind of bring me about religion in general. This is definitely people are talking about it, but it's all the wrong people. Right. Tucker Carlson is talking about it nonstop, but his conclusions are wrong. Right. Well, he, he's a Christian nationalist, as is as our people like Marjorie Taylor Greene, and the boebert herself, I'm sure. The bob. The bob. Anyway, I do think that the phrasing white religious nationalism is interesting.
Mental Illness Happy Hour
"warren jeffs" Discussed on Mental Illness Happy Hour
"I think that's probably already obvious by the first 5 seconds of this. I'd like to think of this podcast not as the solution for people's problems, but, you know, I'm the cheerleader for the professionalism out there. I like that. I can't pronounce the word professionals. I'm a cheerleader for support groups and therapy and all other kinds of good stuff. I don't know why I'm rehashing all this. I'm second guessing myself. What do we got a minute, 7 seconds? Ships going down already? I want you to think of episode 6 27 is the Titanic of podcast episodes. I watched the documentary on Netflix called, I don't know or don't remember the full name of it, but the beginning of the name of it is keep sweet. And it might be keep sweet prey obey or keep sweet obey, but it's about Warren jeffs and the fundamentalist Latter day Saints. Colt, I guess you would call it. Holy fuck. Is that dark? And it is, you know, the other thing that is fascinating to me about it, aside from the psychopathy of him and the brainwashing and the frustration as his citizen watching these people, especially these children being manipulated and abused, the other part that is so fascinating to me is how bad their entertainment is when they sing. Oh my God, it is if nobody on the planet other than white people had ever existed. It's almost like a scientific experiment of what would have happened. If the world had been white, what would completely white what would music give a look like? Fascinating. Finally got to I don't remember if I mentioned this on last week's episode. I think I might have, but my shoulder surgery finally got approved and so I'm going to have that taken care of. On Wednesday, really looking forward to that. I don't know why I imagine that. I guess in case there's complications and this is why this is my farewell episode. Let's not go down with the Titanic episode. That's not good. I mentioned last week, we could use some help with Patreon, donations, and I have started to share some of the satire that I write on almost a daily basis. I've decided to start sharing that with Patreon donors and they seem to be enjoying that. So I don't know. If that's the thing that puts you over the edge about going and becoming a Patreon donor. That would be awesome. And the other thing, if you care to support this show, other than through Patreon and PayPal, is you can make just a direct Venmo donation and the a Venmo handle is mental pod, which is the same name as the website and social media handles. So Venmo at mental pod donations would be greatly appreciated. All right, enough of my groveling. This is from the struggle in the sentence survey and this is fell out by a woman who calls herself daughter of wolves and about her depression specifically, her MDD, she writes, I feel raw, like I'm a burn victim, like some protective layer that's supposed to be there, has disappeared and even a feather touching me is going to make me scream and burst into tears. It feels like I'm 7 years old again, crying until I throw up at school and my grandmother comes to get me, so I can go home where I feel safe and cozy. Man, does that sound intense? Fuck. She also battles PTSD, she is a sex crime survivor. She has anger issues and a snapshot from her life. She writes, laying in bed at 15 years old, fantasizing about starving to death in the hospital. My loved ones around. Finally noticing me and realizing how much I hurt all this time. Thank you for that. That is so deep. And that is something that has been shared quite a few times by people is that fantasy of having their pain seen and validated by being in the hospital for some reason that fantasy of that. This is from the love survey filled out by rundle and they write every morning I get up to let the dog out and feed her breakfast. I know the cat is waiting in the spare bedroom and as soon as I return to bed while the dog is still eating, I hear the little footsteps of kitty. She sneaks into the room, jumps up on the bed and then light is right on top of me with her face about an inch away from mine. I pet her. She purrs and then falls asleep. It doesn't matter if the alarm goes off. If kitty is there, I don't move and soak up every minute every cuteness and affection that I can. I love that, which reminds me there's a YouTube video that I saw that might be the most heartwarming thing that I've ever seen and made me feel terrible for being a meat eater, but it's about owners being reunited with former animals that they raised or took care of. Oh my God, I don't remember who the person is that put it up there, but it is one of the most beautiful things I have ever seen on YouTube. Other than tractor accidents. This is from the misophonia. Survey, not very commonly read on the podcast, and this is filled out by a woman who calls herself sad cat, and she's in her 20s. What noise is trigger you. Chewing, taking the pen cap on and off, any repetitive sounds. Yesterday, a girl was putting down cards on a table loudly for 5 minutes and it bothered the shit out of me. When people rub their feet together and their socks make sounds. Excessive finger cracking, snoring is a huge one for me. Squeaky things that aren't supposed to be squeaky, like wheels on grocery carts. Scratching sound and really dry skin. Is your relationship with the person making the noise affected by their noises? It used to be just my dad that I would get triggered with, but now it's everyone. Are you comfortable telling people about your sound sensitivity slash misophonia? Sometimes, it usually pops up when I'm in PHP, which stands for partial hospitalization. Groups for therapy because there's a lot of anxious people there and they shake their foot when and if I feel comfortable with the group, I tell them kindly and then I always feel like I'm being high maintenance. What if the reaction's been when you've told people? They don't know what it is. They say, okay, tell me if I'm ever doing anything, then they usually forget right away. Do you have any other sensory sensitivities? Smell touch, taste, sights. Yes, exclamation point. Sight. Repetitive movement bogged the crap out of me, shaking legs, rubbing feet together, even just the circling your ankle around multiple times. Picking fingers and skin. Have you ever struggled with food issues? Yes, I've struggled since I was 12. I'm 21. It goes back and forth between restricting and then binging with a few purges. How long have you had misophonia? Since I can remember, I think it started to get really bad at 8. How many times a day do you get triggered? Depends on the environment, if I'm home, isolating, is zero. If I'm home and I'm hanging with my parents, probably three to four. And if I'm in treatment probably 7 plus. Do you feel guilty about your triggers or the way you respond to them?
Thank God I'm Atheist
"warren jeffs" Discussed on Thank God I'm Atheist
"Cool. All right, Dan. Back here to our neck of the Woods. This time down along the Utah, Arizona border. Anybody familiar with the area knows that's never a good thing. Because that's where the polygamists like to hang out down in Colorado city. Well, Arizona took care of some business this last week. Are actually, yeah, it's sort of an ongoing story. It's been people have been being arrested and whatnot since it sounds like back in August, really. But now a lot of the stories starting to come out about one mister Samuel Bateman who proclaimed himself a prophet in 2019, an offshoot group of the I was going to say the Federated Church of Jesus Christ of the fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints. You know, he was at one time one of the most trusted followers of Warren jeffs, that named him, mean anything to you. He's the prophet sear and revelator of the FLDS, and is serving time. And just a peach of a guy. Oh, yeah. Polygamist, raped kids, what have you? He's in prison. But Sam, let's see. What was his name? Yeah, Samuel Bateman. He's going to be maybe not joining him in person, but definitely in spirit. In prison. The charges against this man deserve a massive trigger warning. Skip ahead 5 minutes, people if you need to. Let's see. How much of this do I even want to really talk about? I guess he was okay, so he was let's just get to how he was first arrested. Someone spot, someone on the highway spotted small fingers in the gap of a trailer he was hauling through Flagstaff. When police pulled him over, they found three girls between 11 and 14 in a makeshift room in the unventilated trailer. Sticking their fingers out of cracks. So yeah, that's great. Just trying to signal for help or trying to keep gaps open so they could breathe. I mean Jesus. Let's see, back before he declared himself a prophet, he tried to take his only daughter as a wife, but the daughter told her mother about his plan and they both escaped and got a restraining order against Bateman. The mother was Bateman's only wife at the time and after that, he was like, well, time to get going. Let's collect up some wives. That was actually careless of him. He should have planned better. Yeah, but his sister, Alice Barlow. She defends him. She says that the community is supportive, children are happy and wives consider each other's sisters. She said that her brother is a sweet, gentle spirit. Who teaches that forgiveness and repentance are within reach. What they're trying to do is annihilate a religion. She told the media. Samuel is a prophet and a savior in this world. He hasn't done. He hasn't done wrong. They've got to realize that God will defend his prophet. Okay, let's. Okay. Let's see it. Yeah. Let's see. What about your God who would defend these behaviors because and let's see how that looks. Didn't work for Warren jeffs, didn't work for any number of other of these polygamists who've sadly way too small of a number of these polygamists who've actually been brought to justice. But yeah, this is the next big polygamy story, it's starting to unfold now. And it is disgusting. Yeah, not great. And you know, but here's the deal. That I truly sincerely believe, a more accurate version of mormonism. As practiced by Brigham young, and Joseph Smith, then what you would see the mainstream church during today. So. You're right to point out that this is not how the church that you and I grow up in. Do business. No. Now, right. But it is how they used to do business. And yeah, this guy might be the proper heir to Brigham and Joseph's throne. I think it's worth pointing out, you know, especially in a city where we have a statue of Brigham young downtown. Yeah. It used to be on public property. Now, I guess it is technically over on church property, isn't it? No, actually, I think it is still on public property. It's just sort of, oh, yeah, that's a little tricky. I'm not sure because I know, I think you can get away with more sort of free speech stuff right in the immediate vicinity of the Brigham young statue. Anyway, that's neither here nor that. But yeah. I might be wrong. I would love to know if somebody knows. Oh boy. Well, there you go. Mormonism has, it has a dark side that is just to the south. I'm going to close this off with a lovely Christmas message. Tis the season. And, you know, lots of people are lighting their trees and putting a manger somewhere in their in their decorative world. And no different is the Pope. For Saint Peter's square is now lit up with a beautiful, huge spruce. Lit top to toe, of course. Yeah. And literally, the Pope has a lovely message to go with it. He said,
Life Transformation Radio
"warren jeffs" Discussed on Life Transformation Radio
"Okay. That is my hear it. I hope that he hears it. All right. I hope that he hears it, because you know what he really does need to know this truth. And here's the truth. Well, he can hear it because you can just send in the link and he's going to hear it. Hi, dad. Yeah, I love you. Love you. See, as a daughter, when you're a daddy's girl, you love every version of your dad. Yeah. The good boy, the good guy, the good man, but you like the bad boy too. So when a woman goes seeking for a mate, she wants every version that her daddy has been. And men have a hard time like being the mentor for that old version of themselves, but that's exactly what young man need. Right. So he wouldn't let me have that. So I went out and I rebelled, and I said, well, let me go find a man that is in the church and very disciplined. And you know an upstanding man. So I went and found me a husband and upstanding man and I brought him home to daddy and daddy hated him too. Daddy hated him too, but I married him anyway because I wanted to escape. Right. I wanted to escape my father's home. And I entered into 12 years of slavery. Oh. Marriage can be like slavery. I know. Let me just take a breath for that. And you're so powerful. And so vivacious. And so exuberant and so just alive and spirit. And it just breaks my heart to hear that 12 years. That's a lot. 12 years of slavery not only was it 12 years of slavery, it was 12 years in a religion that oppressed women. Oh, we're unpacking the onion. Yeah, we're unpacking the onion. I was something called a Hebrew israelite. And in that religion, they believe that the men only can have multiple wives. But the women belong only to the men. And I practice that. Okay, so the men only can have multiple wives. Yes. And it's called polygyny. Okay. Now what's the difference between polygyny and polygamy? Okay, so polygamy means that you can just the woman can go out and do what she pleases and the man can go out. No, no. No, no. In the LDS, the former so offshoots of the Mormon church is polygamy, and there's town in Colorado, Arizona, whatever I can't remember what it is, but they practice. So there's one guy and he's got multiple multiple. Are you talking about Cody? No. But he's got multiple wives, so I'm just trying to find the difference between polygamy and polygamy. So I think they're pretty much the same. I think that the Mormons call it polygamy, but when the man I want to be real clear is we got a lot of friends in the Mormon. So the offshoot, the people that practice because it's not practiced in the Mormon church. I want to be an offshoot. It's just another branch that they don't. And Mormon church doesn't acknowledge polygamy. But there has been some offshoots that have gone and Warren jeffs, as an example. For example. That's what I'm talking about. Right. No, if you're using the example of Warren jif, then it's absolutely the same. It's absolutely the same just a different brand of sugar. You get what I'm saying? Gotcha. Yeah, same thing. Okay. The women get him and he gets more people. And I practice that. I enjoyed it. Let me be honest. Let me tell you what I enjoyed about it. You want to hear? Can I just toss that one? I think you enjoyed it. Why? 'cause you have to spend all the time because you just like push them off to the other wives. No. It can be around them either. Okay, so all right, I'm gonna just sit down and shut up and listen to this. Oh, they didn't want to be around them either. What was so fun is that when my sister wives came around, I was able to go to the theater with them and go shopping with them. And they would call me at work and say, hey, what do you want to eat when you come home? And I'd be like, yes. Somebody here to help me do all this work. You had a sorority in your house. Sisters. And my sister wives were amazing. Some of them knew how to sew and there was so many clothes and it was just amazing and I didn't have to do as a woman. A lot of times the man comes home after work and he thinks he doesn't have to do anything else. And I had to do everything else, but I worked just as hard as him. Yes, not sure. It was unfair to me, so I enjoyed the company. My sister wives were the bomb. They were the best. But I thought that he would love me more. If I gave him more women and he did not. Wow. The first were you the first wife? I wasn't his first wife, but in this polygyny situation I was the first wife. So then you became like the anchor. You became. Okay. Yes. Okay. And I was actually the one that went out and found them. And they were like glued to me. They wanted my friendship. They wanted to be family with me. Right. It did not work out because of the darndest thing. I didn't want him to have sex with them. And not for the reason that most women would sink, but because I knew that the love that he was capable of giving them wasn't worthy of them. It wasn't worthy of them. I love these women so much. Right. And not like an a bisexual way 'cause I don't like so it wasn't in that kind of way. It's just like, I want you to experience pleasure in bed. Got it. I want you to experience women are created to be multiple orgasmic. Yeah. And I wouldn't receive a nun from him. So he wasn't delivering, so you're like, you know, I'm not going to give you a 5 star Yelp review. I'm going to give you like a one and a half to two stars. And I just want to let you know, ladies that one and a half two stars and good conscious, I can't recommend this restaurant. Well, can you imagine that conversation? Can you imagine that conversation? It's like, hey, sister wives. Hey, listen, I know that we didn't all got married and stuff in the wedding night is coming up, but listen, I just don't want you to expect too much. You know, like, can you imagine that conversation? It was horrible because I'm a competitive woman, and I'm a pride for woman. I'm a prideful woman. And generous. Yes. Because you want to let them know that he's a one and a half to two star rating. What I really want it to be honest with you, rob. I wanted a stallion in the bedroom so I could be proud to share them. If I'm going to share you, can I be proud? To share you? No, where's the wife, the first wife? Because you came in as an ex-wife. Yes. Okay, so wife, ex-wife, you came in and then it became polygyny. Then that's just your wife. So he got married young. And had a first wife had three beautiful children. And then he decided to divorce her. And then he married me. And when he married me, he said, hey, listen. I've had one wife before. And there's too much work to do. So I need like ten? Well, no, he only wanted three. He only wanted three. He went. Four wives, right? And I didn't, at first, because I was young. I was 26, and 8 years older than me. So he was a little bit older than me. And he knew what he was getting into. See, I didn't know the work that he was going to put me through. He needed for a wives. Was he worthy of four wives? No. I began to understand that he wasn't really worthy of me. Yeah. So, yeah. Now it took me a long time to figure out that he wasn't worthy of me. 12 years. It wasn't really that. It was actually four strokes. Four. From the pain of that relationship. You had four strokes. I had four strokes. Wow. So I'm just you said four strokes. You were saying that. And that was a good one. I know, but you had four strokes. We were talking about sex and he's not being good, and I'm like, and my daughter had four strokes. So I know what that is. So I just want to let you know for you to overcome four strokes is an incredible. Thing and the odds are not in your favor.
Stephanie Miller's Happy Hour Podcast
"warren jeffs" Discussed on Stephanie Miller's Happy Hour Podcast
"They want more white babies being born. Yeah. Period. The two Senate Democrats hoping to protect access to medication abortion by codifying the FDA's authority over reproductive healthcare products that several red states took into usurping that power so they can ban drugs used for abortion and miscarriage. This is going to be the next front because this is what Carlos, we have now that we didn't have back with roe is medication. So now they're going to go, how do we stop that? Are you four 86? Right. It affirms that the FDA's authority supersedes state law when it comes to FDA approved drugs, including those for medication abortions. I mean so if somebody gets raped like a child, they can't take RU four 86 to prevent something gestating and then that reminds them of the terror that they faced on that ugly evening day slash morning. That I think is a good term. There are forced birth party. That's what it is. It's force birth, whether it wants the babies, and we want them white. I was just watching keep sweet and obey about Warren jeffs in the Texas and the radical part of the LDS and it really feels like that, you know? Forced young marriage in Tennessee or it's okay to marry young and Tennessee and pop out them babies. Come on now. Yeah. This is all white fright. I think it was Joyce Vance that was commenting on, I don't know. I can't even keep track anymore, excuse me, which Republican in which state but saying that, you know, 13 year olds are fantastic mothers and even a ten year old knows that it's life insider and you know, Joyce was like, yeah, 'cause, you know, ten year olds make fantastic single parents. Like, oh my God. It's like the story has lost its mind. We don't need unwanted unloved children and the Trump family should be a shining moniker to that quality is more important than quantity. You don't want to spitting out kids like they're popcorn or at a puppy mill. Right. Right.
Thank God I'm Atheist
"warren jeffs" Discussed on Thank God I'm Atheist
"Jesus training. They may be really good at what they do, but I'd rather have actual trained therapists instead of Jesus people. Yeah. Seems reasonable, Dan. Yeah, thank you. This is from will, dear Frank and Dan, I watched keep sweet and keep sweet praying obey. I remember friends that this was the documentary that we talked about about the fundamentalist LDS people, the polygamists, yes. I watched it, and it was even more horrifying than I thought it would be, which is saying a lot. I have always wondered where the money to run a cult like this would come from, especially one in the middle of nowhere, like this one. In the series, they glancingly say that construction laborers are sent out from the cult and that they send all their wages directly back to the cult. But this still seems like it would be a drop in the bucket compared to the size of the community. I'm going to assume that with so many children, there is a lot of reliance on welfare, but still it seems like there's a disconnect somewhere here. It's not just that they sent back their wages. The church owned the companies. Own the construction companies. They literally like the way that they worked it. I'm probably still do. I don't know. But it was literally everybody's wages went to the church, all money went into the church, and the church distributed everything. So sorry, where were you going? No, and I was just going to agree that, yes, the welfare thing is heavily relied on. And they are able to do a lot with it because they're able to say, you know, there are all of these quote unquote wives who are not legally actually married to anybody. Right. So they are no income in the system. They count as single mothers with no income. So they get even more money because of that. Yeah. Well, and the show did talk about the mechanism that they had to get these companies, right? They had the one guy who had a construction company. And Warren jeffs commanded him to turn it over. So he'd already built this enterprise outside of the community. Right. And then they're like, nope, it's ours now. That's ours now. Yep. He commanded something else his two and Dan in the catskills wrote in to us about it. So I'll just read that as we go on. A quick note about keep sweet that when I watched, I was hoping they would make this connection, but they never did. In the film, there was a scene where Warren jeffs calls the entire community to church and then starts reading out names of men he says betrayed him and the church and one by one they are exiled without their homes and families with their wives and children then given to other men. After this war and just becomes all powerful in the community and no one dared to question him about anything. Which, yes, that did happen. This is an exact copy of what Saddam Hussein did in 1979. He called the entire Congress and party leadership to an auditorium and then said that some were plotting a coup against him. He read out a list of names one by one and one by one, these men were ushered out of the auditorium where about a third were put in front of a firing squad. After this Saddam became all powerful and no one dared question him about anything. So did Warren jeffs get this idea from Saddam Hussein or do autocrats just think alike? I think things just work. You know what works it works. You go with what works. Yeah. Yeah. It is a power move. I'll say that. Yeah. Well, I'm sure that Warren jeffs also just sort of knew the history of Joseph Smith. Commandeering wives and wife. Yeah. Not so much kicking the men out, but well, what Joseph was much nicer about it. He would just send them in a way on foreign missions. And then they would come back and their wives were magically married to Joseph. You're right. Right. Yeah. That's funny. Oh, goodness. Well, we had a caller, did we not? We do. We have somebody who's seeking our advice. Oh, that's always a bad idea. All right, I'll just play it. Sounds good. Any freaking damn long time listener somewhat first time caller. I have an issue and I want your feedback on it if you don't mind. Just recently this past week, my father, out of me as an atheist on Facebook. To which my whole family can see my whole religious family. Honestly, I am fearing with rage. And I don't know what to do, and I could use any advice you can give me. Thank you. And love the show. Oh. Yeah. That is. It's not okay. Let's just start by saying, it is not okay to out anybody about these sensitive any sensitive topic without their permission. Unless there are a member of Congress and are a hypocrite. If they're being hypocritical, yeah, I mean, yeah. Frankly, if it's somebody who has been oppressing a group, and then you happen to know that they are a member of that group. Yeah. You need to out them. By all means. This is different. But that's different. That's a public figure who's
Thank God I'm Atheist
"warren jeffs" Discussed on Thank God I'm Atheist
"Oh, I am not gonna say, hey, the phrase that I really want to say right now, Davis. But I do appreciate you. I'm gonna keep saying that. All right, stick around, there is more show coming up. So Frank. Dan, I made you watch a show that I was already watching. Well, you were going, yeah, but no, no, no, wait. When I first brought it up to you, you had not watched any of it. Right, but it was on our queue. We were going to watch it. This is a Netflix documentary called keep sweet prey and obey. And it is about the FLDS, the fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints, under the leadership of Warren jeffs, and it is cuckoo bananas. I tell you what, you know, you and I are pretty well informed Frank about this stuff. We live in the state where they originated where from a religion that is cut from the same cloth if wildly altered since the breakup away. But my God. Even I was shocked at certain things. Yeah. They were, they were a little kooky with how far they took things, weren't they? Were and probably still are. I mean, they're definitely, I think they've dwindled in number, but they still exist. Yeah. You and I have both separately been to short creek, which is their which used to be their stronghold town on the border of Utah and Arizona. Yes. Down in the middle of nothing, and it's an interesting place. If you drive around the town and there are two cities that make up the short crick and Utah's do say crick, not creek. The short creek area, there's Colorado city, Arizona, and what's the Utah one? He'll tell. Hilda, Utah. And if you drive around it, whoo, what you see is really big, badly built houses, frequently behind 7 foot tall, like opaque walls. Yeah. It's compound land. Yeah, well, that's where they went. And I didn't realize that there had been sort of an exodus in the early 2000s. I was more of that part of the story. Yeah, they were sort of scattered around. They stayed in northern Utah for a while. And then they decided that they needed their own place, and boy did they find it. They just took over this tiny little area. Well, I think it had already, it had always been kind of a polygamist town, right? They didn't just invent the idea of let's go to short creek, right? Right. As polygamous. It's just such a remote area. That there I'm fairly confident there had always been some polygamous presence there. But yeah, you're right. It hadn't been much of a town. It was much more just a little compound of some kind. Yeah, a couple farms, whatever. And then yeah, they had the fundamentalists had sort of just always been up in suburban Salt Lake or Salt Lake City itself. Yeah. And I had always heard that estimates of like 50, 60,000 polygamists and Salt Lake valley. Huh. And obviously that's not how many people moved down there, so there's still a lot up here. If the numbers have held, I mean, I drive around a lot, and I do see in certain parts of the valley. Obvious polygamous houses. Yeah, and you can, and also you can, you know, you go to Costco and you can you know when there's four older women all with their hair done the same way in all in dresses of a single solid color fabric. Yeah. And then, you know, 30 children running around with them. And they're clearly shopping for 1100 humans. Right. For dinner. For that night's dinner. They shop every day. It's kind of absurd. It's a lifestyle that I'm glad I'm not living, but it's fine for them. But what's not fine? Is holy shit everything? Yeah. Everything about their lives is not okay. And boy, it just shows you how when you push things to the logical extreme, it just becomes crazy. Yeah. Things just go nuts. I highly recommend this documentary. It is great. It's well done. And each episode is what a four parter for four episodes. And each episode just, you don't think there's room to ratchet it up further. Yeah. Well, they do. It just gets, but I mean, but the big things that we're talking about. So things that we knew about were, the giving away of underaged girls to overaged men. Yeah. We're talking about like, you know, a 14 year old girl being given in marriage to a 50 something year old man, or older, like the story of the one woman in the film, who was married to ruling jeffs, Warren jeffs. Father. In his final years of his life, and he was like in his 80s or something. So gross. And they go into detail of wedding night and it's not cool. Like super gross. But she was with and it's interesting how they talk about the times when ruling jeffs was still in charge. And those were sort of the good old days. Right? Yeah, his son made it worse. How is this possible? Literally 14 year olds. Well, and there are also stories that people, and this show mentions it, but didn't focus on it much, they would kick young men out of the community. Yeah. I remember. For anything. And they kicked them out when their teens, they have no education, exactly zero education, they do not know how any of the rest of the world works. They know they have no money, but usually no construction. So they know how to build things. They know how to build bad looking homes. But almost no skills almost they have nothing and they are just thrown ejected from the only community they've ever been allowed to know. Yeah. Into the insular community. Yeah. No TV, they don't know what the rest of the world looks or smells like. Yeah. And the reason is because there ain't enough girls to go around. Yeah. Of course they're not, yeah. There's a math problem when every man wants 5 women. Yeah. And so, and so there's, but the whole cruel ejecting of them. That was a worn Jeff's thing. In prior times, they just sort of allowed that to sort of sort itself out. Right. Still not cool. You know, but now the thing that I thought was bizarre while watching it for me was, you know, I mean, this is obviously very foreign to our religious experience even though it's an offshoot of mormonism. But at the same time, very like I understood it. I did what was going on. And it's not just because of exposure to like the news and having some awareness of a lot of these incidents and how they were being reported at the time. No. It literally there's something very Mormon..
Daily Pop
"warren jeffs" Discussed on Daily Pop
"Get too drunk. I'm pretty sure Beyoncé has no idea who you are. With the queen bee. You know, I forget. I forget. But look, this has been phenomenal. And this has been so phenomenal, Justin, that what has happened, people are dropping stuff because they afraid because July 29th is coming up. Well, let's talk about that because Drake dropped. His album last night and social media went into a frenzy. We had no idea this was happening. We had no idea. But I didn't get to tell you first. No, no, no, no. He did not say it. But his album, honestly, never mind came out. He also debuted the music video for his song falling back, which is a breakup song that shows Drake getting married to 23 brides. Uh oh. And it includes a surprise celeb cameo as his best man. Well, you ready? Yeah, I'm ready. Doesn't feel right. We scrap it, we go home. It's fine. No, no, no. I'm good, bro it's. It's a good time for me, you know? I'm ready to settle down. I'm in love. So high for you. You don't do this. I get you right now. Please get me right. Yeah, yeah. Let me get married. You know, you're good at number four. Of course, in the video, he is seen marrying 23 women. So of course he picked the black Warren jeffs. That polygamist to go ahead and give him away at his wedding. Oh, Tristan's. Yeah. Can't pull up on a free throw or pull out game Thomas. What we call the streets. Tristan. Look, you know what? I don't know what's going on, but Drake is known to be controversial. He's known to put in certain things. First of all, let's break this down. Okay, 23 people, no wonder Tristan was there. I mean, 23 girls. You know what I'm saying? But this is, he's known to do this. And it's like, we were happy we were surprised that an actual song was coming out. It's a dance hall album. We was like, wow. It's dancehall. It's a whole different job. It's not rap. The only the last track is a rap song because it's featuring 21 savage. But everything else is dance, it's music and stuff like that. I think he did it because in the summer, he wants to, you know, at least stay on people's conscious, he'll be in the clubs. They'll be playing this in the clubs. There is not one club banger on and that's the problem. I think social media is pissed off because when I heard Drake's drop an album, I was looking for club Drake. I got emo Drake. And I'm not mad about emo Drake. It's like yacht rock Drake. I need a club banger. I want some. 21 Drake. This is songs you hearing forever 21, which they will remix, and they will play it in the club. I guarantee you. But I guarantee you. And I'm not mad about it, but you know what Adam rippon, let me tell you. Please. The album, by the way, is not bad. The album is not bad. It's called what I call an antibiotic album. Why? It takes like three listens to kick in. You know what I mean? You have to listen to it three times. Exactly. But you have to listen to it for 7 days, straight. Yes. All right, it doesn't soak in. And then you start to like it, and then the pain eases up, or so I heard. It's one of those albums, but I think I need to listen to it again. Listen to it again. Three times. Yeah. And they're a trimester Thompson. Knows he should be laying low. He knows that people already think some type of way about him. I would have told Drake now. But you know what, this is one of the problems that we have in hip hop is that men tend to be misogynistic, men tend to ignore what is going on, especially when it comes to women. And that's been a big problem within the hip hop community. And so he is a Drake is being dragged for this. And rightfully so, because the whole point is is that this man Tristan Thompson whether it's Chloe, whether it's his other baby mamas, he's been an issue. So why highlight that or why give justification and make it look like you okay with him doing what he wants to do? You know what I mean? And then Mary in 23 women. Yes. I know it's a parody, but it's like, right now, it's just not, it's not for females. This is for a guy. That's what this video is for guys. And it's a fantasy. I'm.
Bob and Sheri
"warren jeffs" Discussed on Bob and Sheri
"All right, I'll see you on Thursday. Friday the day after Wednesday two days after Tuesday. Thursday. Yeah, Thursday. Thursday doesn't even start. So sometime between now and the first day I've got to come up with a small fortune. It's the gateway to the weekend. Thursday. Now here's bob and cherry. Well, happy throwback Thursday, anybody watching keep sweet praying obey on Netflix. Any of you guys watching that yet? It's a document. It's a docu series about the polygamous LFTS church, which is a very radical sort of branching off from mainstream mormonism. It's about the one where the guy was sentenced to jail. Yeah. It's really interesting. It's been Kevin had no idea what this was about when I sat him down in front of it. But it's been super interesting for me because where all of this took place in short creek Utah is not all that far from where my mom lives. And I think I've told you guys about the lost boys that my late stepdad used to hire. So in this FLDS church, they believe in polygamy, the church has led by one man who is known as the prophet, the current prophet is Warren jeffs, the prior prophet, was his father Roland jeffs. And. It is, I don't even know where to begin with keep sweet prey in obey. But they don't want boys around. Like once the boys hit a certain age, because all of the young women are being married off to much, much older men, like a 19 year old girl married off to an 86 year old man, okay? Who has like 21 other wives. So they cast and sometimes miss their jets would step in there first. Well, very often. And they cast they cast these boys out and they don't have documentation. They don't have birth certificates. They don't have social security numbers. They're just kind of out there and homeless on the street. And they're called the, they call them the lost boys, and they would be all over the city where my stepdad and my mom lived. And my stepdad would hire these kids to do construction jobs and try to help them train them. And identity is an identity established. They have no identity. So if you watch this on Netflix, it's chilling and fascinating and this isn't something that happened like a million years ago, Warren, jeffs. I mean, this is all this is all very contemporary. Warren jeffs went to prison, not that long ago. And they interview people who have escaped the FLDS, they interview Warren Jeff's brother. And the name of it keeps sweet, praying obey. The first prophet rule in jeffs, he started this whole keep sweet movement. He had shoes that had the words keep sweet on the bottoms of the souls so that when he put his feet up, you'd see keep sweet. They really wrote songs. They performed pageants at school, and it was all designed to keep the people particularly the women from pushing back on any of these strange controls and customs. And of course, when you grow up in that world, that's all you know, right? So they interview a couple of these women who said, you know, I didn't know where babies came from. I thought that when you kissed a man, that's how a baby was born. And so you had these women that were selected by the prophet were married off to another older man who discovered on their wedding night. What the whole scene was. And one of the women describes at every night, the ruling would be in his bedroom, waiting to go to bed, and all of the wives would line up in the hallway. And have to take their turn waiting in line to go in and kiss him goodnight and say goodnight to him. And then he may or may not select one to stay. And these women describing this absolutely shocking and devastating. You can't even imagine what it would be like to grow up in this world. So at one point, somebody gets rushed to the hospital in saint George, and Kevin pauses it and goes, that's like where your mom, I said, I told you, this is like right here where all of this, all of this was happening, like right down the road from my family when it was going on. And I can remember, I used to go out and visit my mom and Ted. And we'd go out to dinner and do various things. And one night, I was me and my mom and tab, we were in a restaurant, and the hostess ushered a huge party to a table right near us, and it was one of these FLDS families. It was one man and maybe ten young women all in these very like plain, long dresses that buttoned up at their neck and cut went all their interests. Yeah, but no pattern, like all just solid colors with these big elaborate hairdos and Ted kicks me on 'cause you know, like I have no, I can't whisper, I don't know how not to stare. Ted kicks me under the table and says darling, now you can not stare at people like that because I didn't realize how criminalized that I was. So anyway, it's called keep sweet praying obey and it's on Netflix right now and I really it's super well done and I really recommend it. If you're looking for is that in the dark area of Netflix, it's a dog. It's a docuseries. I want to see that. Yeah. Yeah, it's very, I mean, you're watch it with your jaw dropped. All right, coming up on today's show, we've got a great Father's Day rabbit hole for you. We're going to throw it back with comedian Robert Klein. We're going to talk about how chickens used to be sacred and based on what it costs to buy some chicken at the grocery store. I think we might be heading that way again. It's bob and sherry. Bob and cherry with what fathers really want for Father's Day. I'm finally going to give my dad what he's always wanted, a nap. Well, that and meet my dad. 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And That's Why We Drink
"warren jeffs" Discussed on And That's Why We Drink
"What happened in the year. That i was gone here the ice same i imagine. Well i don't know if you know. Listen i don't know if maybe i'm supposed to notice and what not just not reading the room but is this a situation where people are happy to be doing this. Because they feel like they're fulfilling. Don't think okay. this is like they've been coerced. And now it's like too late. If that makes sense okay. So like even. They know that something's up. They don't feel like there. Were in no heat by god. I'm sure i'm sure. Some people probably believed but i think there are enough people who were like. Oh but like what are you gonna do like fucked. Because they're literally is elo people and the one thing. I cannot wait for you to cover one day and like maybe even like if we ever do like a switch again. I i get coverage. Remember something i would I still do warren jeffs. Yeah that's a good one in a lot of his followers. It's like kind of it at one. Point was at least split down the middle. We're half of them. Were like so grateful for all the weird sexual assignments they had versus like or that like they had to sleep with this person versus this person but then there are other people who are like. I'm married to someone actually really lebanon like forced into this. I'm gonna go to hell and like right. My husband has to see me off and like watch me. Go be with somebody. It's really awful. And that's a good point. And i feel like there's a blurred line between like You totally are skeptic. And you're like this person is fucking us over and also like i don't know if this is real maybe it's real but i have to go with it because everybody else is going with it and i don't want to be punished and there's also there was also people. Yeah like right. Down the middle of the roper..
The Babylon Bee
"warren jeffs" Discussed on The Babylon Bee
"That's chesterton dot org slash conference. So go do it. Yeah so what are some of the stupid rules that you've i assume they send you guidelines as a restaurant and we were talking about the dumb rules. You know any any that. Stand out to you. You've been given. I mean it's it's it's funny you bring that up actually because they don't send you many guidelines so so in the beginning this you're just supposed to know right like we're all supposed to be epidemiologist granted. We are on twitter but in twitter's degree from twitter. Yes yes you have your degree from twitter now. Structural engineers epidemiologists tax accountant for for a while. There the so. They didn't send you anything. And that was where i said. I'm like in the beginning. If these local agencies had actually acted like consultants gotten with the small businesses and the restaurants are inherently trained to create safe and sanitary environments. We know how to do that. So we kinda learning curve is a lot smaller we could have been able to easily model the right types of behavior but now they're starting to like retroactively. Send the stuff like just a reminder from osho you have to do the following right and now now osias guidelines are absurd right. We have to keep a whole system of who hasn't hasn't been vaccinated. What color mask. they're wearing. What type of mask. They're wearing when they washed their mask when they washed their clothes. How often they take a shower right. Like it's going into a lot of real personal stuff. But the best one is for restaurants are like maintain social distancing right like six to eight feet of course in the kitchen. How the heck are you. Sit down the plate. Learn step back into their person gets it. Yeah like the fry guys like. Hey hey. don't throw that fish down on the grill yet. I'm going to throw the fish ships down. Let me gonna throw it down now. Okay hey you guys can come in now. Now go through the fish on the grill. Yeah there's forty tickets on the board but this is kind of how we do it one at a time. Sorry guys going to be four hours for your lobster. But but really it's like they don't think at all about this type stuff That's just the mechanical pieces. But i'd frankly i don't read the rest for me. My when this whole lockdown things started. It was like i get it. You like when when there's like a couple of weeks you know. I'm i'm like maybe this'll be the economy but a couple of weeks staying home. Maybe we can all recover from this. We're all in this together and the whole thing and then my wife is the hair stylist. She's like they're never going to this. You know she. She was more work than i was to this woman. She's like well woke to read more readily tonight once. Yeah and and. I don't know when it was. I think it was when they opened everything. Backup and then. She's like i'm not going back to work because they're just gonna shut me down again and then like a week later they shut down all salons again and jamie and that for me. That was like the red pill for me for this lockdown thing. Was there a moment for you that you realize that this is not the same for you or great. That's a very similar situation. It was the same with myself and my wife. She's always like the one who's kind of you know crawling around under the bed looking for the conspiracy theory and i was like no no no. This is great two weeks same situation. She's like it's not going to be two weeks. I'm like come on this. There's no way is an the same situation but it was for us. You're right it was the open close open close but the point which for me was like just throwing me off of a huge cliff. I never thought they would shut down outdoor dining in los angeles five degrees and sunny when especially after months of knowing consistently right being outdoors is fine. You had an entire summer of love right people protesting outdoors and it was never a superspreader event. Because they're outdoors of course these protests. They're all outdoors. And i remember at one point. I was like this isn't a referendum on the protest but i just wanna post this photo of all of these people. None of them are masked piled on top of each other protesting outdoors and as they were in route to riot and everyone's like their outdoorsy moron. Follow the science like whatever and then you know fast forward four months and it's like okay well then doesn't that same logic apply in your like not at all. It's the wintertime. There's a new spike. Now people are being forced. Indoors will not in southern california where it's seventy five degrees sunny. It's like you wanna kill grandmother. You profit-driven fool. That's the exact same thing. There is absolutely no difference and the fact is it doesn't surprise me that the government wanted to you know take these. It's surprises me. How many people just idly sat by and took it and gobbled it up right. This is a stupid comparison. Kind of but a you know. Have a somewhat obsession with colts. And i you know. Read these books unlike the f. lds and so their cults. You have these leaders that just make up. Arbitrary rules feels good like there is a warren jeffs from the f. l. d. s. one day decided read was evil. No one could wear red. They said to get rid of all the red clothing and then one day was cited dogs or bad so we're not to kill their dogs and it feels like we're living in that kind of thing where it just. It feels good to make a rule and more rules are better. Yeah yeah exactly. And as long as there's something that you can kind of intellectually hang your hat on right like okay read. Yeah that makes sense the devils read right like oh man i get it and as long as there's something that you can just kind of throw out there. 'cause you're if you think about it write intellectually putting your like like staying away from people. Will that make sense to stop virus right until you learn net..
Reality Life with Kate Casey
"warren jeffs" Discussed on Reality Life with Kate Casey
"She still believes every word he says well and so since he is in jail. And i know with a lot of these leaders like warren jeffs they become even more powerful once. They're behind bars. Is that in the same case of keith. Rainier nexium are Their members that are still able to get some sort of teachings from him despite the fact that he's in prison i would say that getting more popular. I don't think he's getting more follow words. I think these to core of diehard followers. And i think that that could go either way out. He spent in brooklyn up until what you know just several months ago and they was an easy to our communicate with enga- 'cause they live in brooklyn and now he's been transferred to tucson and it's not so easy to see him and i would not be surprised and i told them openly is my goal to de program you all right but they ultimately realise that one hundred twenty years this a long time the wait for anyone i and the my last question is is it your understanding that nikki is sort of the head of the organization. Now well i would say she's the head of what's called the dossier project which is to try to promote a different understanding Daas than what we all have pretty much decided that it was A manipulative organization meant when slave women and make them sexually zebra neary in. She's arguing and she was. The leader of that group is eight women altogether core indus- who are promoting the idea that it wasn't evil but it was actually meant help lemon but i won't say that she's be leader of nexium. I think there's a number of people who are kind of working co equally to try to free raniry through appeal And through trying to provide new evidence of his innocence is brandon porter communicating with anyone. And what what is it. Look for in terms of his possible Justice in his case because he was the doctor that had performed all of those insane series of experiments during the rainbow initiative. Correct right. right well you know. He lost his medical license. Thank god for that is still a follower of key and danielle. Who was the one who actually branded the women. She still following him. Correct very much. So and any word from nancy saltzman is she communicating with anyone who she can communicate with for a number of reasons. One is not permitted. Speak to any of the coaches maxime And she has not Can't speak to the prospect school awaiting sentencing. But i have received word from her that she Salt because she was deceived by keith. Wow and her daughters do they still Feel like they've been wronged or are they kind of in limbo or warren of course is totally denounced key And she testified against keith. That's older of the two daughters and the younger daughter. Michelle married nexium. Number man named and myers And i don't know what their position is. I would imagine that there are aligned. With nancy and lauren in their repudiation keeps nearly and the bronfman sisters. What about them. As a very interesting on clare bronfman remains in her prison loyalty. Heat raniry dedicatedly so she will not disavow. Sara bronfman has fled the country. And she's hiding or living in portugal and wash his not denounced. he's rainier. She did make a statement a one sentence statement on her website that she is no longer or not associated with nexium. She's not announced he's Interesting this story just continues to be getting more. It's just continues to fascinate me. And i understand that. You're still or i understand that you're filming part of the vowel season to any word on when we will be able to see that second season. Are you know knowns given a definite date my guess is just gonna be late. September october okay spokesman for them and i nearly making a wild guess that you know would be sentencing the over Let's see if it goes according to plan but the answering khaki it should something should be all done for all the defendants and i think we'll probably be joined. The how sometimes fall. That should really have to talk each year to get a And and they're not seeing now when it will be to air. I know that we are all looking forward to that. Wh- is there anything that we should be looking out for a certain Sentencing or time. What's the next part of the timeline that we should be following a one month from today. Lawrence saltzman will be sentenced if it goes according to the schedule people or even on the fringe with they might think is legal or semi regal should be wary of bringing sex and The idea of Coercion particularly Taking blackmail a worthy type material and Obviously doing things like ordering people. 'cause seduce someone. I think you know when you touch on this morally repugnant ground. We've seen in the case that it can also result in criminal charges in new and novel applications of the sex trafficking law. Well i continue to think about all of the women that were victims. And i'm hoping that they are finding some very very small amount of relief. That allison was sentenced today and hope that they are able to find some peace in their lives. Far far away from this organization. I am so grateful for your time. Always so tell everybody where they can continue to follow. Your coverage is easy. Enough.
Phil in the Blanks
"warren jeffs" Discussed on Phil in the Blanks
"They have been brainwashed. They have been so controlled that they don't have capacity to really make an anchored logical rational decision because they've had reality distorted for them to the point that they're dealing with such distorted filter that they can't make an informed rational decision but yet that's that's very difficult to prove because they'll fight to the death that they're their of their own free will and it's where they want to be because that's what they've been indoctrinated to do and that's when the love bombing starts all over again if they start getting challenge subpoenas family members come then all of a sudden they get all loved up again. Well i think the first amendment is not at suicide act so people are free to believe whatever they want but they may not do whatever they wish the name of those leaks screw yup. Lds that we've been talking about. They existed for hundred years. Rule in jeff's warren jeffs father was very authoritarian leader. And i would say. He was a cult leader in my opinion but he did not go to the extremes that warren jeffs he did not rape charges in the way that were ingested and so eventually warren jeffs behavior caught up with him and many of these cult leader will say as soon as the authorities. Investigate them are accusing me. And i don't think it's persecution them accountable accountable for their behavior. And i think that these children and these young people who are in these groups and raised in these groups from their earliest memory They don't know that anything else really exists and they are a dare indoctrinated to have unreasonable fear. It's as you pointed out about the outside world for example they're told if they go against the leader or boeing and scott because whatever the leader says is what odd says and therefore you are rejecting dot. You reject the leader and they also Basically will will feel that if they they go their own way that internal judgment and this is a a polygamist teaching of the f. Lvs they will be a suspended in darkness alone for eternity now. Imagine how chilling that is to a child growing up and accepting that of believing and so these these young people they feel. They have no alternative except to obey the leader and a lot of times. We look and we don't understand what they're thinking what they're going through how they've been indoctrinated and and i think the abuse that went on in many of these polygamous groups for for decades was just horrific fat. Yeah it seems to me that one of the best red flags we can throw up for. People is what you said about if you're there even the first night if you can't ask questions if you can't challenge the authoritarianism of the leadership without being criticized and ostracized you're in the wrong place yet. Because if you say hey listen. I got a question here. I read something on the internet that says. Abc in d-. What else say about that. And if they start yelling persecution and contamination and toxic blah blah blah blah blah. If they can't have a discussion about that and you don't have the right to question. Why are we doing this that or the other than your in wrong place and you need to get the hell out right now. It's the totalitarianism. It's the group. Think one way that should be a red flag if you're in an organization that doesn't allow for individuality or questions that should be a big red flag. Well and the group should be tolerant of questions because if it's a good organization and the overwhelming majority of churches and places of worship in the united states are very positive They should be open to scrutiny. They should be transparent agent. Be willing to answer questions. Which typically is is the posture of of leaders of churches license at worship a across the us. And the other thing i would say is there should be a legitimate reason to we as pumped to a leader in. I say look a new job in a new place. And i'm going to leave a church or this organization or or club or whatever and i'm going to relocate. I won't be able to come here anymore. And the group and the leader telling me out and get terrible thing. There's no legitimate reason to lee added a big red flag. And if everyone who has ever left is characterized in a derogatory demeaning way and and again what they're saying is there's no legitimate reason the leave and there's this we'd.
Phil in the Blanks
"warren jeffs" Discussed on Phil in the Blanks
"The impression that you get from visiting this. Polygamous community is that the laws of the land don't necessarily apply to them. It's interesting that the leader has a standard of living so high above everyone else but yet that's a positive they don't look at it and say well what the hell i'm living over here in this shack and the leaders living in this mansion. But they look at that as an affirmation that he or she is in fact the deity. They're the one that's raised up. They don't resent it. They look at. It is an affirmation that is in fact makes them special twelve the followers of warren jeffs the nfl es colorado city arizona and hildale utah. I mean you talk about all of them being the same when you were there on sure you noticed those prairie grasses and yeah they they have designated colors all the women in their air. If they're married they have it up if they're not married. It's down cannot wear or appear in any way inconsistent with what warren jeffs dictated. In fact he would say you can never wear red and ironically when he was arrested by by by law enforcement he was driving a new red escalate but but he who he was a man. Children raped a children. And that is the reason that he is now in prison and excellence. And i don't think you'll ever get out what's interesting is. He's running that that route which still has thousands of members that obey his every word He's running it from prison. He has visitors that come to the present they convey what is wishes are in edict decided. Mitch man could Perpetuate their their themselves through their see and he he restricted which man but have sacks And which men could not have sex and must be celebrate because their seed not meet with his approval. I mean this was a very evil rupe. that that has existed on the border of arizona. Utah for about a hundred years. And i've interviewed some of those young girls and what went on was absolutely horrific and or it was interesting when some of the boys got up to puberty and you know into their even mid teens they call them the lost boys they would drive them out of the community sometimes they would take them out into the desert and just dump them. I was fourteen years old. When i left car out to see i left colorado city when i was eighteen. The lost boys are boys and young men who were expelled under the direction of warren jeffs. I am approximately thirty brothers and sisters. My dad had two wives. I had three brothers and three sisters now. The family at all.
KLBJ 590AM
"warren jeffs" Discussed on KLBJ 590AM
"Welcome back, everybody. Let's go to the phone. This is Mark. Good morning, Mark. What can help you with Warren Jeffs? Well, you're talking about the leaves way have big post oak trees all around our house. And we try to beam up most of it. But like on the side of the house will be eight or 10 inches thick where they come off the roof anyway, So for years we had rhinoceros beetle grubs. It, did it. Yes, job of breaking down the leaves. They made it into this really fine like seat starting mixed. Well, the armadillos found them. Duggan let into the leaf piles and I ate all the grubs. So now the leaves. Just sit there. So is there any trick doesn't really I guess I've just got a mix him a nitrogen to get him to break down Now writers any tricks, you know the breaking leaves down. Well, there's something you can do here, mark grinding them the greater the surface area, you know. Ah, whole leaf versus elite that shattered into a bunch of little pieces. More surface area, the more room for the biology to attack. It's about to break it down, so that's always an advantage. That's where the mulching mower works, and you have a really thick pile. I understand it could be an issue. But the other thing you can do is you can simply make a leaf mold. Been Um, collect the leaves. Put him in. I used the chicken wire was four by eight. I made a four by 84 ft. Tall pin. And I had chicken wire around it and you're number one. I filled it with leaves, and it was full and you know, By the end of the year, it was only about six inches high. Wow! And then the next year, I did the same thing. And I've been doing that year after year after year, and what I want up with his stuff at the bottom is just amazing. Amendment and I've done zero labor on the topside. If it rains, it rains. If it dries out, it drives out. I had nothing to it, but leaves Wow. You know, so it contains the grub. There's just microbes and start breaking it down. Sergeant. Yeah, and they still will you You have to remember. We actually have to make products to prevent nature. From breaking stuff down. That's what Ryan's and things like that are so those leaves will break down if you don't touch him again. It's just we do the composting thing because we're trying really hard to get that quality compost quickly. So you could do at least more been and the leaf mold is really amazing stuff for building up the soil. It's great in clay soils. You can use it as a multi etcetera. But doing the just let them break down things his slow It really is slow. So the more you congratulate it up, the better they did you actually water your least being No, it was what fell from the sky in terms of rainfall. Um, I think I promised them that it's been pretty dry. And what's that drives out when you have that big pile leaves? It's just nearly impossible to get water down deep entered anymore because it's so thick that may be what they have done very well. Okay. I'm like, Yeah, I like the other way where I didn't have to worry about it at all. But now I've got to start doing something. I have been more than Get it right. Another thing is, we basically been putting our kitchen scraps just in this four FT. 5 FT Wide wire been for years. And it's actually there were red wiggler type farms that break it down. You end up with this light mucky dirt stuff. So what do you do with that? I mean it Z. Not a fine probably, you know, composed use. I'm Karen McCue. There's growing bipartisan support for a complete investigation into the origins of covert 19. Obviously, the president took steps this week to order the intelligence agencies to report back in 90 days with what they find out about Wuhan and Any organs out of a lab to me. We've got to take every step humanly possible to get to the answer of this New Jersey Democratic Congressman Josh got heimer on Fox and illegal immigrant is found guilty in the 2018 murder of 20 year old Molly Tibbits trial jar. Robert Reese says the case quote hit home, but he feels confident with the guilty verdict. The jury deliberated for over seven hours. But at the end of the day, Reid said he and the 11 other jurors Had no doubt in their minds when it came to convicting Christian, But he knew Rivera of first degree murder the.
Read Between the Lines
"warren jeffs" Discussed on Read Between the Lines
"It's not just Kind of f. The estimating it does follow a lot of patterns of colts in the sense that you have You have a To leave right. It's really a hostile environment to outsiders. it's really insulated culture in it It also relies an increasingly f. L. the community in under the reign of warren jeffs who. He's no longer in power but Well debatable we could talk about but He he continually limited the kinds of information that people had and that's a really common technique of Limiting the information that they can have get so like no news. Casts are not in a certain books aren't allowed or So that the only source of information about the the world is coming from the leader rate and you have the prophet which is a lot of colds. Follow sort of one male or one female or you have that kind of really uneven balance of power. There's one person who's kind of the gravitational pull of the whole community in their desires moods are affecting the whole community. So that's definitely true here. I think when is that it's different is that F lvs polygamous are relying on a A relationship with one of the biggest churches in the world right somewhere and they're also relying on a pretty intense history so it's slinging culture generational one cult leader comes in you know kinda lasts for however long. That leader is live. This is a tradition. That goes on for you. Know it's gone on for two hundred years. So i think that one of the one of the maybe reasons it's even harder for people in the nfl ds community to leave because it's not just like they'd be disappointing. Their parents their disappointing. Generations of their family This is this is their deeply rooted in the.
Ron St. Pierre
Tucker Carlson won't apologize to "mob" for women comments
"Fox News channel host Tucker Carlson said at the opening of his show last night that he won't give into the quote Twitter mob. After audio was published online of comments that he made on the radio show of Bubba. The love sponge. And apparently he was on that show between two thousand six in two thousand and eleven and these comments are being charged as being racist and misogynistic now in the audio that was. Posted by liberal watchdog group media matters for America on Sunday and on Monday Carlson among other things and the audio was present among other things you calls women extremely primitive. He calls Britney Spears and Paris Hilton quote, the biggest white horse in America. He defends cult leader Warren Jeffs against criminal charges for arranging marriages between men and underage girls. And he calls rack a quote, crappy place filled with a bunch of semi Limerick semi literate private primitive monkeys and he says, they don't use toilet paper or forks actual audio. That was posted Tucker Carlson said so accusing the left of demanding, quote, total conformity Carlson said last night on this program. It's pointless to try to explain how the words were spoken ingest or taken out of context, or in any case bear, no resemblance to what you actually think or would want for the country. You didn't apologize. And he stated we've always apologized. When we are wrong and will continue to do that. That's what decent people. Do. He said, they apologize. But we will never bow to the mob ever. No matter what. So pretty hot kind of outrageous comments that were actually caught on audio and resurfaced from Tucker