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Bonus Episode "Walter Payton" ft. Rapsody

The David Banner Podcast

02:50 min | 8 months ago

Bonus Episode "Walter Payton" ft. Rapsody

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Sep 04, 2020 - Hour 2 - Adrian Peterson's All-Time Ranking

The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard & Rob Parker

45:35 min | Last month

Sep 04, 2020 - Hour 2 - Adrian Peterson's All-Time Ranking

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Be sure to check us out live every weekday from seven pm to ten PM, eastern four to seven Pacific on Fox Sports Radio Find Your local station for the odd couple at Fox sports radio, DOT com, or stream it live every day on the iheartradio. APP by searching. F. S. ARE You're listening to Fox. Sports radio. I'm Chris Rob we're coming to you live from the Geico Fox Sports Radio Studios Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on your car insurance visit GEICO DOT COM for a free quote. You can also follow Robin Meal Social Media I am at Chris. Underscore broussard on twitter Chris Broussard Sixty, eight Lindsey Graham Robb is at Rob Parker F s one on both twitter. And instagram and we got trolling a roller was Martin Weiss coming up at the bottom of the hour you definitely want to keep it lot for that and so much more. All right. I started off or I ended last hour I should say. By doing as I do every Friday broussard's Fab five. and. I did based on you know Adrian. Peterson. Being. Cut Today by the Washington redskins the no negative on his career at all this dude has had a fantastic career and they're going to usher him into the hall of fame as soon as possible. But I thought about, where do I rank him whereas he rank all time? Among all time great running backs he certainly in the discussion. For the top five and so I, did my five five rob did you hear or did you step away you probably eating some salad and? Much. Cheese. I'm right on the money, right? That's what I. News myself in shape here. Yes. So you. And she heard, yeah, had a problem with Jim Brown at the top and really yeah, only. Five of Walter Payton Five. OJ Simpson for Barry. Sanders Three Eric dickerson to Jim Brown one. But go ahead I think emmitt Smith deserves to be in the top five from this point. He was a complete back. He could catch he could catch the ball out of the backfield he could block. His team won they were part of a dynasty. He was a big part of it. I think you shortchange Emmett. Smith. And Barry never won anything. It doesn't mean that he wasn't a great player Jim Brown, the problem I would Jim Brown is that the competition does matter a little bit and it's not that he wasn't great Chris but. The players and the size it players back then compared to him, I, just think that it. It it's like it's like why Bill Russell doesn't get all the credit he gets. Willto Championship. Will will they one more like don't you think rob if one say or four hundred fighters green be different conversation. It wouldn't even be a discussion about you know what I'm saying no and win. So that's why I'm saying when winning winning matters he went all NFL, championship? Berry. Never won. An and it's not that he wasn't a great running back. I'm just saying I think you shortchange Emmett Smith out of out of your top five obviously one more than any of them but I gotta be honest. I, don't take. Winning into consideration Roy Running Barry, Sanders. Played for what fifteen sixteen years but he also what I'm just saying. He was great. He led the League I think three. Would you have made? It was more about complete back like like he could do more. Well, Barry came out of the Berry came out of the Games at the goal line Chris because he he was prone to get stopped. You know can. Go backwards you know what I'm saying I'm just I'm not ripping Barry San his career he's a great player. I just think Emma. Gets a short change and I don't know why would he was a big part of a dynasty? I acknowledge imitate greatness as I said, he was one of my regrets. But I I don't I was just never as huge of a fan. Maybe it was the running style. I personally skip Bayless said today on undisputed I was a bigger Fan Tony Dorsett. Skips it. If he had to pick one game, we take door said over him it but he took him it over raw image obviously had the better numbers but I just you know that team was obviously stacked. They had aikman they. You know they had Irvine on. WHO WERE Held. To. And then he came back and they won the Super Bowl I'm just now look I. I. would argue vehemently against him being the greatest running back of all time. Is that what you're saying no August. Yeah. Put Him in the top five. I'm fine with that. But my see here's why I say like to me is similar to baseball I don't take bake winning into consideration with baseball because there's so many other factors and four running back is very similar. You know there. I'm impressed that OJ Simpson. Berry Sanders. They were in and Walter Payton Roy, bad teams, I mean teams Barry Only, played in one playoff game. I. Think Oj only played in one playoff. Plane, and more than that or he won one but he played into I think only played into urinate during that year they were going to the playoffs every other year with Wayne Fonsi, check that that out because. This was my argument for. The buried thing is that he played a game against a playoff game against green bay he had thirteen carries for negative one yards in a playoff game. A running back can't run if the line named block it. Out. We. All Pro Alignment I. I just think that skewed when they talk about image and Barry. And I walk him out better than Berry do. Okay well. The he no you're right. He played in six playoff. That's what I'm saying like He. Didn't have a team. They made the playoffs six times but I, don't I running back. So many of the Great Eric Dickerson didn't win it. Like I said Jim Brown one. Day Simpson didn't. He had to win I. Don't hold that against guy and the win. No. I'm not saying that I'm not saying that he had to win a super bowl or NFL championship to be considered. I'm just saying I think emmitt Smith for whatever reason gets the short end of the stick when people talk about great running backs i. Think he's great. I don't think he's not in my top five. I mean he's on I. had him earl. Campbell. who was short lived but was phenomenal for like three or four years and then AP where do you have AP is in your top five Adrian Peterson now? You say that. Nah because there's so many other guys on. Top. Ten Yeah but I, think he's in top FAA. No no I didn't have my my. I'm just be top eight but I mean. Like like I was bringing up. And with all due respect 'cause he's one of my favorite players when he was playing. But like I brought up Frank O'hare some. Yeah No, it wasn't like the Adam. Mean it be dismissive. It was just that there's so many guys. You don't even have image in your top five. How can Adrian Peterson being? Do you know what I mean? No. was phenomenal. He was better in every house in yards. He was better than Emmett Smith I. Think you could argue that Oh. Wow. I. Do. I think you could argue that I mean I'm not necessarily saying he is, but I don't think it's as cut and dried as you I think you're putting and this is your prerogative but I think you're putting more emphasis on winning. where? Running babbling a matter to me if they want because I, not on the running back here. Here's my argument all the time. When you you could poo poo winning all you want. All right Morgan with. No, I'm just saying Marley took fourth. Out Bags of course but broadly. Works four straight super bowls. Nobody ever hasn't been the greatest coach conversation Jim Kelly was a quarterback of the buffalo building went to four straight super bowls nobody even mentions Jim Kelly. When you talk about the greatest of all time winning does matter we run why glide? Why is it different in baseball I'm just saying I may seriously there are no but you have a guy I'm saying who has the numbers who does have numbers Chris and he was part of a dynasty. It's not like he has a number and they never won or he won and didn't have the numbers he has the numbers. He played a longtime to. All right. I'm had three years where he averaged one hundred or more yards three. Eric Dixon six I'm not did you hear me bring up Eric? No I'm just saying you know I. Mean you talking like you think is the goat running back now he was durable. Is All get on me? In something like ten one, thousand yard seasons straight I mean he was he Won. An MBA. I'm MVP he was he was the NFL offensive rookie of the year, his rookie year four-time rushing leader I'm just saying when you look at all of his numbers four time all team first team Super Bowl Mvp I. Don't know what he did what he didn't do. He was on the all decades team he was on the one hundredth anniversary team I. Only. Off. The other five guys. I named we're on all decade team to I'm no all one hundred with on the one hundred. Yes. Checked at it was the the I think he was on one hundred. Yes. Yes. List Audie, other guys name we're on near too. I'm just saying it wasn't like I was putting him below chopped liver. WHO's if you have a five I? Don't have it in front of me. I mean, I didn't I didn't plan to do that I just I just. Think, he's better been buried. Oh, like Emmett was left off if I put together a top five lists I'm I'm GonNa put him over Berry. Because one also. Saying Outta that does? Your point, you're gonNA put the he had the most touchdown hundred Mike Trout. I mean seriously certain. It ain't going drive for everything run the OJ Simpson was garbage. Playoff Games no meat if we if we really because if it was a quarterback and. He put up numbers but never got hardly got the play offs. There's no way we consider him an all time. Great. With running backs is OJ play one playoff game. Nada. That's how good is not what I'm doing. So great if you only played in one playoff game. Running about that, it's just that he has all the other numbers plus. Plus he won and he's part of the dynasty that's all I'm saying. I mean I guess it. was very good. It was great. Here's one my here, emmitt Smith Jim Brown? Adrian Peterson and Damian Thomson. audio. Only players seven straight ten touchdown seasons in their career. So there's another one like he he scored touchdowns and he's he's in that group with with those other guys and you have Jim Brown. You don't have agent. I'm not saying that that's I'm just saying that's around feather in his cap emit address year wait to yards a carry. He eight years even in his heyday four point three, four, point Oh, three point seven, one year. I mean. I'm just say now the one year he averaged five point three that was great before point six when you. But I'm just you know a lot of years four point one, four, point two. I'm just. I look at some of his personal proud I got love the way OJ Simpson Ran Jim Brown is just Jim Brown. Berry was unique about is unique as they get air dickers- had the great size, the speed run you over Juku. Walter. Payton was just a freaking workhorse and they were a horrible team and everybody knew it was Walter Laugh Walter Right Walker Walter off tackle Walter up the middle and they still couldn't stop. And so those are my reason but you music, you make a legit Emmett is he's right. He won and he does have numbers but I just think does guys individually backs were better but I'm sure a lot of people got him it in their top five. I was I really wanted to get the AP like where? We. They all time greats I didn't mean to hijack. Jumping I. Think what it out no I think that's good. We'll throw this out to everybody and I'm sure people have a lot of interest I a seven, seven, nine, thousand, nine, or Fox a, seven, seven, nine, nine, six, sixty, three, sixty, nine. Is Emmett Smith. Did I belittle Emmett Smith by not having in my top five? Who you putting him above OJ Walter Jim Brown, Berry, or Eric Dickerson A. N. Does, AP. Crack your top five. Where's he rank all time? You're turning away with Chris Rock the act couple Fox sports radio. Be Sure to catch live editions of the odd couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker, weekdays at seven PM Eastern Four PM Pacific on Fox sports radio and the iheartradio APP from Ridley. Scott. Director of alien and Blade runner comes his next SCI. Fi masterpiece experiences most breathtaking view of the future yet in the epoch new. HBO Maximum Original Series raised by wolves. Earth is on the edge of extinction. Now, the fate of humanity lies on the other side of the galaxy where to android guardians are tasked with a singular mission to raise the last of mankind as their own and protect them at any cost. Welcome to a mysterious new world filled with secrets, deceptions and startling new dangers from beyond the planet and within. 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Calvin Virginia, you're on the odd couple Fox sports radio. Calvin. Hey how you guys doing I'm a first time caller Mama and after the longest. Don't make the last. Yes. So. Calvin. Where are you in Virginia Real Quick Port. Smith Okay Very Nice. Thank you. Buddy I'm in the military. So I work at the hospital there I. Save lives every day. Thank you share your, we appreciate you. Was in New York for the Coronas when I got back in March. See I know it was a scene, right? I arrived I'm Kinda. Going with you today I go back and forth you guys I. Love You guys so much Emmett Smith I think he deserves it. On the reason why I think he deserves it I don't care me don't kill me Chris. But I won't make him to go. Wow. The reason why the reason why I'm GonNa make him to go is. The history of the world because winning to me, it does matter a lot to he broke Jim Brown's record when it seen unbreakable back in the day. Could Which? when he didn't break IT I. Broke. While the be but he wound up. Leading rusher. Time Yeah, yeah yeah, so Did I wake him doing that. Because two because he got the all time record and. And Demand the super bowl ANC one to win and he and unreasonable I give. It was another reason like just like you were talking about what Oj and Berry standards on in Walter. Payton on losing team. on the flip the flip for him. He did. He had to success on the winning team because you know doubt had a loaded team. They could they had Jay Novacek, the time they had you know. And don't forget. They were bad team when he first got one in fifteen one like remember. and. They all here, all those guys they were bad I take Calvin. Thanks for your work. How about Mardi, in Kentucky you're on the Fox Sports Radio. What's. Marti. What's up hope. Friday I in fact. Not Too much I just building rivers playoffs birthday when. I I I actually my girl one of my eighteen year old face today my. Birthday is the Senate in versus say is the eight what is that Marty? You got a magical day that you like I year you get Frisky High No. More there are movies to go to my. Panic cold in December. I. Guess. What you got Mardi on this. Emmett is overlooked, but it's legitimate and I'm GONNA take what? He played in the same area is very dangerous in Emmett had everything a running back me he had a great office of line. He had a hall of fame quarterback yet hall of fame savings and also other savers. Tidying that. Constant contributed to that you had to play in on his. Great blockers. So they gave him everything that our offense that did I running back to get those numbers at the same time in the same era, we watch Barry Sanders Ed basically none of that look absolutely phenomenal and I do think that you know running back aren't judged by winning the same as is like quarterback, but I will say this. I think quarterbacks for judge too much by winning. Because you can. Away, yeah, you can throw them a situation where they don't have weapons. They don't have blockers and and they can get overlooked. You look at Kurt, Warner who's bagging groceries until he got on the right team. And I the same situation now, that's a good call. Marty. Call We. We're blessed. Happy Birthday. Yeah. Me Too credentials I know he'd like me but Cristiano. He thinks. Chris saw Darren in South Dakota you're on the couple Fox sports radio what's. Up Darren. The. going. was. Look good. How are you? I'm I'm. I just like to throw that. Adrian Peterson could be in the top five. If he didn't, you know pull the leave the vikings curse when they backed us up like they did Rainy Moss and personally hire van and. They, you know they left and now I guarantee all three of those guys are regret it. S for 'em it didn't it didn't go right. Yeah I think I think they regret it and Very Sanders like I'm not centers Emmett Smith. Vikings gave him that team with the whole Herschel, Walker trade and I mean he had everything around him. You put. You know. Peterson on that team. He would destroy enders. I think Peterson was a better runner. Or say, Sanders, in some guys I mentioned, we're better. I actually think Peterson was a better runner to beyond. Just As, as numbers quite as good, they're really good but. You know we we did have some issues with our injuries on our line at the Vikings but I mean, we stuck behind him and he he bailed and. Ruined his career no no doubt Darren. Thanks for the call a squeeze in Pat from New Hampshire. You're on the odd couple Fox Sports Radio Weei? Pat. Up here we have old. Ted Williams. Once back here before Surroi greatest greatest all time talking about the but we never want you know Ted. Williams. Right. Don't have made the playoffs baseball the only made the playoffs one time and Ted Williams coup, which is crazy. That was before steroids. We say that and we have John Hatton up here to. Make Ryan Fax saying that you on the. Block I know him he's Smith comment about. Hannah. Don't ever hear him yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the way Oh he's saying he. Those guys make these guys famous. Artem most under appreciated. Athletes probably in the three major sports. Would you agree with that? Yeah. No I. Love you have they start out as a hobby. Attis but let me ask you this Pat Real Quick Emmett Smith does he get too much credit or not? Enough? Yeah. I didn't know liking much. A Nice Nice you know well, he's. Got Enough Credit I think that's for sure. Nevermind when via the sky was in the service to just if I was mayor Ma'am but I always like rocky bleier every year. He wasn't quite top fi but he later. To backs. Etc.. I read his book or book about weight. The for name Yes. They were full of great names Fritz few Melt Mel Blonde Mill Lynn Swann. Here, if nothing drake. Why wouldn't bug great names on that team? All right. That's a that was an interesting discussion. It was different. I mean we we started out going somewhere else but now but I think it was good. I mean just you and your list made me and I don't want to downplay how it is. These are all time I'm not downplaying Barry Sanders and how great he was I watched him I covered them, Chris I saw him make some of the most unbelievable runs. I'm just when we're talking about opposite to yeah you know what I mean right when we're talking about the greatest of all time sometimes and putting a list together it's hard for me to just discount winning. That's all. Right. Well, it's time for trolling a rolling with Martin Weiss. These done. Air. Roger did not have a pro bowl season gets me. It's trolling or Rolette. Dried stroller rolling on Martin Weiss an outbreak down for you real quick dictate your first time doing it because we are on a Friday now. Robin Chris Likes Story I tell you the role. And if they don't near the troll turned, Oh man hey. Show. Then elated blockbuster move in the summer blockbuster. The Brooklyn. Nets new head coach while under surpri several people thought it was unfair to minority assistant who you know actually have some coaching experience. Are you holding or rolling these Nash hiring an example of white privilege? Im. I'm trolling it. Oh, man hey, from the standpoint that I don't think it's unheard of that a guy without experience gets a job. Now, which job he gets whether it's a team ready to win or bad team that needs to be rebuilt. We can maybe debate that but I don't think is strictly on white privilege because I've seen many black coaches get jobs not as plumbers this I will add, but they've gotten jobs without coaching experience. I. AM, trolling it as well. Mart. look I think in a very roundabout way. You can. You can talk a lot of things the white privilege I mean, why is verge album one owner an NBA or non black? You know most of them are overwhelmingly white. And why don't most blacks have the money to buy NBA or NFL teams? A lot of all money made during slavery not all but a lot of it. So that's white privilege right there. Why are most of the GM's and presidents in the NBA An overwhelmingly Black League White Shaw marks even being in that position summit asked white privilege yes. So in a roundabout way, I guess but why I'm GonNA. SAY This specifically no Steve Knives like ROB said Steve Kerr. But Avery Johnson. Now you've been an assistant, but only like a year I think when he took over Dallas and they remember they were very good team national. And any takes them to the finals a second year. So you know there's been some brothers that have gotten. Elton brands the president or GM in Philadelphia a lot of experience. So I'M GONNA Sammy Steve Nash. Is. Worthy. As worthy as a player can be of being ready for this coaching position and the superstars wanted him Kyri and K.. D. So I'm going to say that. It's not white privilege specifically. Rolling odd couple. Radio not the Dallas Cowboys Ethan may have gotten even better. Goodell reinstated trouble deepen, event randy. Just, a few weeks after reports came out that we thought we will see all year. And it stand gregory eligible to join the cowboys week seven. Chris are you trolling are rolling Randy Gregory? Will be an impact player for the cowboys. I mean week seven he hadn't played in a few years. I mean he's pretty good but he he didn't like the world on fire when he was playing so I'm going to say no. act is reminding all coming back and he did you know. He's okay but you know not not what you might expect. So I'm GonNa, say no. I'm trolling with I'm trolling Chris. I agree with you. I think sometimes, you automatically think because somebody was good and then they come back you got something and Oh my God. Oh, that's GONNA put us over the top and it doesn't always work out like that. So I think. They could be hopeful and hope so but skin seven who knows where they are at that point and who knows where he is what I gets into games, it might take them four games to get their Chris and then you're already at week eleven, right so I'm a troll. Troll a rolling on Fox sports radio. Now guys we've heard a lot about the players and the coaches Kinda wearing down and heavy mental health struggles feeling lonely the bubble, and of course, it's a weird environment but one group of people that we haven't heard from the fish. Now personally I think they may be struggling with the bubbles as well because some of these late game calls have been horrendous. Chris, are you trolling a rolling the officiating in the bubble? Is Worse than a normal playoff? Oh Man Hey. Hey. It's been bad I mean that that one game Milwaukee Miami was I I can't recall seeing things that bad. In Long Time. The call. I'm not mad because it worked out because the bucks never should have been tied. They call them drivers it was horrible and in the Collignon this was all bad. But I like the Dave let play. Now they've got let the players overall fiscal I thought they were very physical with Luca Clippers I. think some of the superstars like Lebron Gotten hammered a few times where I thought. Wow. Usually they'll call foul on the opponent and they let them play. So I think they're just letting them play more. May because they are not impacted by a crowd but. I that one game was horrible but overall I don't think it's been worse. trolled on it as well. We've agreed on everything. And I just think that they're bad. They're bad in the bubble out of the bubble. They've been bad I. Don't know what it is some horrific calls. We've seen it in all sports, not just MBA referees but I I don't know why with all I guess maybe because we see it in the slow motion and the video and all that we gotta keep a real right it's a tough job. No, what some? Some of them are bad. Some some of them are just bad calls and I get it. But see in the NBA you notice a lot of anticipation fouls were you expect it to be right? You expect it to be contact and sometimes it's not right and so they're already ready to blow to whistled going. Okay. Go to foul him and he doesn't foul them so. I don't think it has anything to do with the bubble. I just think that we need. Younger better referees with better eyesight. Sorry about better is. Waste. Parker. Housing he going. When you when you yourself whatever. But after. I feel like there's a technical foul, every commercial break. It, like every commercial break. In above I don't know I don't know how you got this officiating absurdly bad with. What you just said is accidentally not true, right? About an extreme, every commercial break. couple. MARTIN DALLAS WARN ISRAEL PGA Martin Weiss. Win You can't handle the through. Have we every commercial break Chris To come on this show and say every commercial. But sly, you let that slot. would. Go ahead and and Lick your wounds and we'll see you next week. That's our man Martin. Wise trolling a role in. All right. There's a segment of the bubbles beginning to the NBA bubble that is yelling shame on you. NBA. We'll get into that next couple. Fox Sports Radio Fox sports radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation catch all of our shows at Fox sports radio, dot. com and within the iheartradio APP search F. S. are to listen live. Sometimes, our food is more than just food. It's an integral part of our community. So this year discovers giving five million dollars to support black owned restaurants. To places like post office pies in Birmingham Alabama. Back in the day, Bakery is Savannah Georgia. And hundreds more black owned restaurants in your local community all across the country. Learn how you can show you support. At discover DOT COM, it's been a while since we've been out on the road. 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That's pretty bad right but milwaukee. Can't be just taken jump shots come on man that's what they wall off that paint. That's. All right. Interesting supply and look. I noted, ratings are down and all that. But for the most part I mean, that's I. Think the NBA has done a great job. I. Think the bubbles been spectacular from. The fact that they're, you know they've been able to keep covert out of their. The. Games. have been phenomenal I, think the look on television is great. If you didn't know better. You know you just look at it and think regular game and fans in the stands and things like that. So for the most part, they've really been doing a great job. But a recent thing that came out. This is just ridiculous. Isn't there I missed that in my view? Players after the first round were able to get up to four family members to come and visit referees even were able to get one. But coaches rob this is baffling to me Kim get nobody the coaches whoever's in charge of the coaches association the President should be fired straight up, Chris? Well, intolerant. The League snowed up a trigger, the players association, and the League worked out the parameters. I don't know what they thought dealt with in terms of the coaches, but the coaches association has been talking to the League to try to get this change but to no avail to this point, it makes no sense. To No avail how could you expect somebody to to coach and other people have their family members in and you're supposed to go alone imagine if everybody your Don rivers different and you have to you coach all the way to the finals and you go without seeing your wife of family for the attire for months five four and a half months. No ways there'd be no way, the farm, the farm, the farm, the commissioner change that right now what what what? No. Allow allow this spouses to come in immediately Chris to had them tested, but they get in well. I can't believe they something for all our couple listeners I agree with route. But if this was baseball, he'd be like well, no I, mean you know it's a bubble only have so many people. Doing their best set nobody. Nobody is have you said nobody would come on man come on I would not agree with that. Especially when you talk about. When you talk about. The referees can have somebody in this game is about to be over. Referees thinking about that. You're going to let the referees have one guess but this is why I'm talking about coach I. Mean You're right. I totally agree that you this is the coach's Association Chris is like the You know why referees have. Have Somebody in white is because the? More they demanded it. We won't work how in the world of the coaches ever goat in not knowing that there that they'll spouses. If they knew that beforehand bet they wouldn't go or that wouldn't go I think they had to no no that makes sense. They I mean, I. I can't imagine they sprung on me. Here's Mike Malone he talked about it. He didn't answer that question which is a good one. Here's Mike Malone Culture to Denver Nuggets he was upset is an understatement. The players have their families here, which which they deserved, which is the right thing to do. The referees are allowed to one guest, which is great for the referees the coach it's Coaches are not allowed to bring anybody. I say shame on you and a this is crazy I. Miss my family and I think I speak for May I speak for my coaches and probably all coaches down here sixty days and not having access and not being granted the privilege to have my family come here to me is criminal in nature and that shouldn't be shouldn't be at all. So I wanted to get that off my chest. Ball. I'm GLOB. They got like you say rob they gotta get. They have to take care of his PRONTO. Prime. Michener step in right away Chris and say allow the coaches you have to have a personal whatever you want to say it is but a no way in the world I should be going on that game's over there about this seven points. Wow me. Today's NBA that's that's a surmountable league now but I'm just said but but they can't make all they're doing his rhino he's Toronto was done. Yeah. I'm trying to give you hope man. Keep Hoping La. Well this is the score. This is as we a huge I mean they might get swept or even if there's a gentleman sweep is is still bad I mean they're not even going putting up a fight. With I we get into game the bucks box, maybe stop in here. Keep it locked couple. Have you ever had that dream where you're trying to take your business remote and it super confusing but then you hear a bondage ad for their team river mode experts the you can just call and they put a whole plan together. 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Introducing The Lead

Sports Gambling Podcast

07:40 min | 9 months ago

Introducing The Lead

"Ooh welcome everyone to the sports gambling. Pastime Sean stacking the money with my partner and picks right real money in Kramer. What's happening Kramer? Happy what are we say. Unhappy About Sean. Happy Super Bowl Week and this week we've been doing a tremendous amount amount of Picks podcast posts and content. But we have a little Little Bonus episode for you today. We're GONNA shout out a new sports. PODCAST US a daily sports podcasts over on wonder and and the athletic it's called the lead every weekday morning the lead brings you deep dive into the biggest sports stories of the day from from the athletics. All Star team of local national sports reporters I got the athletic subscription. It's great journalism great content as content. Yeah Great Great Great reads yes some super in depth stuff and you know this is kind of the podcast version so stories. He's like where did the forty niners new star running back where he moster come from. That's actually he's that's a pretty crazy story where he started in where he's at today. Or what can Zion Williams do for the Pelicans. Honestly if he does anything probably huge win for the PELICANS. So if you're looking for the full story behind last night's scores today's at takes off. Make sure you subscribe to the lead from wondering and the athletic on Apple podcasts or spotify and To give you a taste of what the lead is gonNA sound like. We have a sample clip. Right here enjoy It's Super Bowl. Week Kavita Yeah Man I mean Pat Mahomes and the chiefs just went off during these the playoffs and that niners defense is just stout right in the one guy everyone will be watching closely. Is the dude dude who torched the souls packers fans and basically gave Jimmy Garoppolo the day off I. For more his fourth touchdown he ran for two hundred twenty the yards and four touchdowns against Green Bay. This is the guy who was cut by six different. NFL teams and who before the season was mostly seen a special teams is player. And so today we're going to speak with the athletics Tim Kawakami who has been covering the forty niners for years about how much of a surprise most hurts. Performance really was I if he was a one game wonder and how surfing has influenced the way he runs. The wave hit from gone. It's a very interesting combination of surfer running back from one and the athletic. I'm under scelzo Davidson. This is the lead felt like something was happening. Yeah there is something about the emotion and I just never seen anything in. This isn't a silver in the APP. It stays with you so tim rookie. Mozart's performance against the packers was truly historic. What was his reaction after the game am I was like you know it was one of the greatest games are running back ever had in the NFC championship not actually truthfully for you to even say that all right now I'm still shocked? I can't believe that that's the kind of guy. He is the kind of guy he is but especially he had been bouncing around from team into team really wasn't thought as a running back until the forty niners just started plugging them in there and he just never had a bad run he never went for less than five yards. So you might might as well just keep giving it to them. How the hand off into the arms of Mostaert he's gone touchdown San Francisco? He still. We'll acts like a journeyman. He acts like a guy who was a special teams player. Who isn't going to be a featured back while he's putting up some of them? You know mega numbers in the playoffs. They all treat themselves and they look at the world like they're a bunch of journeymen. It's very very refreshing And I think a large part of how they've kind of coalesced together they all. Nobody's bigger than anybody else in that locker room. Even the guy who goes for two hundred whatever yards in the NFC championship game. He's a surfer right and he is a surfer. I got no wetsuit on your just straight trunks. You Ride longboard short board. You've been to mavericks yet. Like walk us through the surface and when you started and how you got into that you know I started Surfing when I was I was about thirteen or fourteen and just been a big hit for me going out there in waves and riding the waves like you see in this video man just enjoying the atmosphere career in the water and I WanNa go to Mavericks Surfing Contract Billabong. He's now Florida waves out here in California. We're not sure what that is but cut I guess they get leaves out there. And he's cert lady runs like a surfer back me gets it Samuel out. In clones clones cut feels the crest Econo- Lake Glides towards the where the whole isn't it catches the next wave and they're he's gone guys. Don't expect them to get past them in the past. It's not like a classic running back. He's not like Walter Payton joking joking. Joking is kind of kind of fill in the moment. A feeling where it is the wave hits and then he's gone. It's a very interesting kind of combination of a surfer running back and Do you think think he's been enjoying his time in the spotlight here. I think he has. He understands what it's like not to be any part of this to be such an afterthought your cut by I five teams. He understands that you know a world where he's not a star he's lived in that world so he's GonNa enjoy it a little bit again I don't think he's seeking out crazy fame mm-hmm but these guys are all kinds of enjoying it right now. They're all kind of like this is pretty good. This is pretty good right now and so tim. Most performance seemed to come out of nowhere. But did you foresee this. You know I don't think he ever foresee a guy going for two hundred plus and then champion Malysz. He's you know top hop picky certainly wasn't but he's been impressive every time he's carried the ball. He's been impressive. He's been a star special teamer so you knew he had some skills but you. We saw something building there and sometimes running backs. Just come out of nowhere. You this is. The SHANAHAN's are famous for that pulling some guy. The fifth round. Iran's one thousand yards moster assert is in that category. They tapped into something with him. Call Shanahan recognized though. He's been good for most of the season. Well Tim thanks for joining us. And it'll be interesting to see the if you're in the forty nine dollars can put off on Sunday. All right. I'll see you again. That was a short clip from the lead podcasts. From wondering and the athletic doc you'll find the full episode in new episodes every weekday on apple spotify or wherever. You're listening to great podcasts. And the next podcast. You'll hear on this. Feed need will be the super bowl fifty four props and pigs edition of these sports gambling podcasts on the sports gambling podcast network and for the Sports Gaming Back S. 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Happy Thanksgiving

The Adam Schefter Podcast

45:00 min | 11 months ago

Happy Thanksgiving

"Algae that murky green stuff may not seem very useful but it could be the future of energy. That's why Exxon Mobil synthetic genomics developing biofuels from algae so that the trucks ships and planes that drive our economy could one day run on algae biofuels with half the greenhouse gas emissions of today's fuels keeping transportation tation humming well cutting emissions learn more at energy factor dot com. This week's Adam Adam Schefter podcast. It's week thirteen. And it's Thanksgiving and in the spirit of the holiday we're going to be joined by Jaguars offensive and collapsed Campbell in conversation. Now we had about Thanksgiving this summer in the Jaguars Training Facility that we've saved for just this weekend. We'll be joined by one of the most giving men in the entire. NFL Jets Offensive Tackle Kelvin. Beecham who is the teams two thousand eighteen Walter Payton man of the year nominee for all the good work that he's done in the New York Metropolitan area giving your food water and his time and energy and will preview preview week thirteen of the NFL season with ESPN analytics Guru. Evan can happen but first. Jaguars defensive end collapse Campbell. This they'll relax in good for nothing like coronation. Jacksonville Thanksgiving Week. I'll report like Mr Harbour. They had never had it. You weren't expecting to be having corn. Shed for Thanksgiving this year but that are I like I like to cook. I was dabbling. I've had to responsibility of food given but I've never I've been talking I. I don't know who does what he did a good job. What kind of help? Point soup potatoes and a couple of different things I could do the cranberry Edberg fast enough for like I. You know I'm not. I'm not the best chef in there so they can't support their older wiser. Take in your in the kitchen cooking with everybody. You're taking part in a couple of times. Look what is classes Goto thanksgiving meal Goto. I like the desserts. I usually gag about four or five pounds. That's just it's always tough because I'm going to try to get up the way bother me much. But the Desert Taleh Mohammed is much icebox pie. which is what? It's like a cream cookie pie recipe though get anywhere else. This is your new in your mouth. Concen the Schefter family icebox Pie thanksgiving today. You know we can make happen and the week of Thanksgiving when you're eating desserts and you're getting four four or five pounds. Is it a given that. You're going to be overweight over the scales overweight bruce to be the weekend that game when you step on the scale Friday for Friday. That's eight years this code general rule of thumb. Every you'd be forgiven forgiving those given to become Passover now for coast comes in strict and Oil Day holiday. Aw regard to harassment problems as happened. Never walk alone cruel of coach to find you or discipline disciplined overweight Thanksgiving week. You lose it too. Because I've always had the coaches the players coaches. I've experienced that other side so and I've been lucky in my career play. Who's your favorite player? Koshi playful oh favorite coaches is like yes. I use your your sources. You don't get sources 'cause you kept picking your all my favorite exactly like but some are better than others. I mean different experiences to all of them. I I can't hot and we're the super that was parents. I mean literally did not realize like how big of a deal was like you. Try I to Berlin Laura. Give them all tacos saxophone. Burn you know what happens when you hear the Super Bowl rookie. You think you'RE GONNA go every year you think this is easy like we're GonNa do this. And how many tells you about the incident twice ago so close and that was that was an all time super when you look back at that too will James Harrison with that. May Larry Fits with that. Greenwich San Antonio Homes Puts. It's who Adamy to wrote and remember every rumor's all over what is there must be one moment from that game that you still when you think back to you go back to that one moment. What's the one moment from making the you remember? Were honestly I thought we were GONNA win it up until the very end. When more really forced a fumble distribute them and I thought it was gonna time but we used to type it was definitely a fumble because we got about bell still mega forty seconds? If there's enough time to go out there score and this is Kurt Warner you know. We got Joe. You're going to score. Wins Game Lombardi. Stripped him out of the day I will hurt still hurts on still feeling Wardha mean to you to get a super bowl win before. You're playing these rover Overdo everything missile. So we do we play this game because we want to be the best and all the way to really be. The best is to get to work and as a team game and that's what Tim Award as individuals assistant and there's there's a balance but if it's tough for me and obviously you play well you know you want to get your your do but you know it's all about what miserable hotel Lombardi trophy know-how fills participants and then from there. You know we were talking about coaches you ever coaches. US wrestler favorite sources. I would say while you bring up some of those names. was there one teammate that you had through this twelve year career of yours. That is impressed. You more than others. But you play with some America's Joe takes the cake Tom. If you think about it you know I came into the NFL. He was in his fifth year. and He's already like all star player. You know the guy and I told myself you know do what he does. Oh you want to be the guy so I kind of started. Following him in Florence is over the years. I mean there's so many people who had like figure print career I'm on development but as far as even outside of football to carry yourself you know with the with the business world taste. He's got a guy who you want to be like you know. It's kind of cool because I feel like I'm your twelve guys communicate with me. And they're like man you know you can tell the difference you brought up some of the coaches we burn up right away. Who the guys that you play? Petition Bruisers Blue Sheri's. The report is coach. He's all the way just in his guy he's just a roku anytime. Ah So three coaches coordinators with much more serious because broad is always always like. He's a great sense of humor. Grace Uber. You'd love talking about him. I guess it is destroy. Your is your or a time where he played a joke on. You pulled a prank on you know what does that mean. Give me an example. He always humor things. Sounds like we're talking about having older player to kind of talk to kind of gauge room at us like we have a lot of conversations. I don't know office just to have a conversation going to be about our current but just just to talk about stuff and we literally I mean we're talking about kind of itself but he's just kind of just heard about the all the different things we've talked about so it was kind of Nice to know that he's just a real. Aw Back Funny Cap. Your furniture tailor made for six hundred eighty three hundred pounds under certain things that have to be done for you and a custom-made way custom any before but honestly our California good enough you know. Shot Calvin Kingdon. It is in. You know maybe it's not if it has to be done I get done but if it's not funny most of my life slip on twin size has been talking to like fifteen and did not find any like my dad was like hanging up so much I gotTa quing size. I was cool. It was like a big deal but I still starting off and then old enough to August kings still hanging off. So I'm GonNa tell you something. They were told anybody before. I grew up in a middle class. Family and my parents didn't have a lot of money. I slept on a bed that I am not exaggerating until you know wider than this table. Know what in this county was out that if you turn over you would fall off the bed. And I didn't know wanting better and my wife says to me. Why don't you get you obey? I never thought to ask you because that was my bed. Little stint couch of my twenty first birthday. Thank my parents got me a new bed. That was maybe a full sized bed. I don't remember they also made a part of me. A bunch of friends came over and I just turned legally drank. Mike and I got so sick upstairs in threw up all over the new date. So when I finally get over to get a bed a new bed of big Bedford for me Joey. Bag jousted vomit. The review our break up broken pretty good glass of this beer-drinking to get real loose Luke's which by the way. My wife is never seen drunk to this day. I don't WanNa get. I don't want you to have this idea that I'm some drinking full throwing up or you're forty wanted to do was incredible part. Actually the University of Miami like we just replayed thing and and we wanted to get beat like I think it was Marshall Interception sack monster game you know you play your birthday you got to have wants to go home. Take a little nap by then. We went to the party like events like and I was a partner in college. I used support a little bit pretty tough so we literally I mean for his else five bedrooms and told all the neighbours like we're going talk party. Literally at US apart taxicabs lined up waiting to get home because it was there. It was like five hundred people I get the point it was it was playing like I mean that's just for like a twenty first birthday party. That was pretty. Don't break the brea about I got home. I myself through so it was a good time so we both through March twenty first birthday party. Yes I'm seeing now. You're a big drinker. Anchor Jerks up time to time now really but every now and then have to drink but okay in college. I did go the class and I got good grades but also drive myself and I was good for plant worked with the art but also to sit on Miami learned to party in digital done. This is kind of a thank. You learned Ashmore inside. They tell you. Don't go over this all these guys. Don't have anybody even in my day. I'm really I'm assuming because they do it but the guys I learned from John. beason those guys guys that I. I was young Hughes older guys over the ropes. I used to be like I would suck. Bears like super fast. Kids actually like buy me a drink just took it gets me. Burder was just like ridiculous. I've only lost in like a check out my life and I think it was because it was his house turnament pay to get in on and his friend was a judge and in our me. I'll take I'll take my overlap still kind of way. So it's the key to chugging well and quick. I have no idea the US do it probably helps. It probably helps your six eight. Three hundred as opposed to five seven and a half eighty right like difference because he was very impressive. I must drinking. They're at Connecticut forever. That so's been honest Thanksgiving football to be work. Live and let me say this now. My wife has a big family so we have Thanksgiving with a forty people and they know oh that the job never really stops never ends so the great part about it is on Thanksgiving. I sit around and talk everybody. How my meal but when the Games go on long and when they start out I'm in front of the Games and I'm on my phone and they think working and I can't really track on Thanksgiving? I mean how my fantasy football team is doing. And they don't know that and they're not gonNA know that and they can't know that because they think that I'm just busy work. which if you're watching a football game you're working? You're ping attention to certain trends injuries. Ever maybe but our Thanksgiving a lot of times this becomes a built in excuse preventative track my fancy Cte and really watch the Football Games watch anyway in addition to being with my family so versus elephants do you play Waldo like friends and family team team. ESPN league. And we've got Chris Mortenson and Matthew and Tim has tons of you one zero zero. Last year I had a team that was twelve and one in the regular season twelve and one center points record and lost the second round. Got Blown up. It's a lot of you know. Here's the thing as long as Matthew Berry doesn't win everybody wants that's A. That's a rule bottle when he sees this separate matthew. You know the deal. He's the betsy champion. We gotta make sure that it does what songs the predators he's he's he's the Patriots of I guess. Sort of data goblet. Thanks giving Roy. Yes I've only given. Once by watched watched it only played. There was put in place key which is fine and I love watching anytime games on it and I'm not plant plant. I'm glued to my supervisor. I'm a big fan like I don't know if people most guys are not big fair and some guys are like our football fan and there's a school because this is still my job do pitch was off goes into this day. Wow and you've done it for twelve years and you're thirty two years old. I think you gotta you're letting your a contract and Jacksonville. How much longer will you be able to do this way? I don't know you know definitely put on more time to shut it down. When are we going to sit down all that but Soviet feeling good and healthy and go out there and still planning on high level? Why stop you know what it is uh-huh and when you shut it down? Are you going to be Michael Strahan. I'm glad you said that because the TV world what a great job we've seen the clips. You've done terrific work you've got this great little set off grid rails it up you know how to Chug to eat icebox ice drink. Nice box cake on Thanksgiving. I mean you got to train. You got the connections. Got The small. You've got the personality. You just gotTA GET REPS. That's the key with everything right doing this for you is the next step in Europe solution to becoming whatever it is that you wanna be post career so the more you can do you while you're playing keep doing interviews keep volunteering to do a segment at a local. TV Station radio station. Whatever may be the more you can do the I bet you get it? It's like when you first got into league rookie right. It seemed overwhelming loss. There was a lot to learn new. Vin what I know now who been crazy all right. I'm one hundred percent store. Lost to step a little bit speed-wise. I'm still still very fast compared to when I was a rookie as it's funny because you kind of like each year a little bit less talk weather so much more wiser make up for it. Tom Brady bill trying. You think Tom Brady has gotten by speed. No we're top April runs to even your eighteen thousand. Nine hundred still will run eighty will. He's smart runner. You're not a fast runner. But he's a smart smarten right so you can do TV thing. Is that what you WANNA do. That's what you WANNA do so won't be Dream Job Post football whenever that is our love to talk. All All sports are local Baltimore. Football's always been wondering six play basketball for chose to answer. Never play football but I love talking basketball. We're talking baseball hockey. I like it at all so I would love to get a job can talk all sports fan so if I could just be a fan and and talk about it Georgia any interest in Hollywood politics. Hollywood before definitely politics are really ideal for me but you never know I mean I'm still kind of still. Oh come young this Thanksgiving all around us and we're thankful for. What are you most thankful? Harm Wow so much. I'm thankful I mean. Everybody thinks that their health right. I almost anything your family. Great Wife Two kids thankful for them. The immediate immediate family. We get to watch share Thanksgiving with thankful the ESPN for employing me for ten years and not decide if you WANNA be right like that's you you should stay. This is beyond anything that I could have imagined having that I couldn't be anything but thankful for my life. I felt like I mean generally. It's the same concept you know the job. The family though The health in just like having people that you care about that you could share with talk about Thanksgiving the unofficial start of the holiday season once Thanksgiving hits that tells you. Christmas is right around the corner. New Year's this is right around the corner and we are in the throes of playoff football winter holiday gift giving them outside of the actual holiday and celebrate. What's your number four but I like football really matters? Most you know that's just like this one. The plot twist it gets real. It gets real real football historical about about Thanksgiving time yup yeah participant position as time. That's what role. Do you big Thanksgiving tradition biggest. That's different tradition. I mean we're just family together. Have you know we've always been a family like my dad was real big family every Sunday every day for dinner we had together. Let's have been going but you know usually usually together but Thanksgiving you know we used to have just which Smith Dance Party should. Oh will we go ahead with the basic audiences vibe abuse. It turns into a desk contests and I've only wanted to discuss this one time alter life no but its core. What parents would be a little generous because it was I I got? I got a little siblings. Five brothers two sisters so a lot of competition brothers and two sisters on Thanksgiving. That's a lot of Thanksgiving read. Fudo this hard terry clear patches. How's your mom cooked for a family? That big like you you eating alone like you're you're you're the equivalent of seven kids eating mom a miracle worker. She she may miracles happen as a kid to read. You'd have been sold. We got a lot of assistance among really made incredible bills off of like you know the minimum. I know she's American worker so I've always appreciated into her for you know just making things with thankful for her picture of her some rubber. It used to be just like twenty two kill just like you do look like I totally see that. Ah You could tell. She was like our data. I looked just like her dad. My looks my mom which is nice. 'CAUSE superbe purple woman always remember. You were the guys that didn't do didn't fare to twenty first birthday. The great thing about facts. They're proven like the fact that crude oil contains ends impurities or their base oil made from natural gas is ninety nine point five percent free of impurities and the fact that pennzoil is the first synthetic motor oil made from natural gas. Ask Not crude oil. It gives you unbeatable engine protection. The proof is in the pennzoil based on sequence where test using sap the e W thirty available at autozone in autozone dot com joining us now a former seventh round draft pick by the steelers and the two thousand twelve draft in play for the steelers the Jaguars and is now in his third season with the New York. Jets Kelvin Kelvin. Thanks very much for the time today. Thanks for Avenue. I wanted to reach out because it's Thanksgiving week. And there are very few players in the league who I know who have done more good. Then you and for those. Who Don't know you personally have gone out and deliver bottles of water and food and Turkeys to underprivileged families in Newark? You showed a commitment to serving others by providing school supplies in classroom resources to students and teachers you volunteer Food Bank in New York City once a month sponsor sure large-scale food distribution feeds more than three thousand families in Texas not surprisingly the jets. Two Thousand Eighteen Walter Payton man of the year nominee. Shaw I wanNA know where all this goodness comes from. You know to be honest my mother you know I had a great parents both my mother mother my father that Instill just to the needs to give to others you know. We didn't have a lot when we grew up. But we did have the access that we did have way would give us other so there's been blessed with great parents and you know now I'm a parent got three kids myself and now trying to lead by example. What did you take your mother and and father that you now? Try to pass along to your three Children Kelvin. You know the ability to work hard first and foremost At the end of the day you gotta be humble A- As many people in in in many different classes of people that that just struggle with different things from time to time and I've been on both ends of it. I've Dan Dan. You know one of those kids that didn't know my next meal is coming from now. Then you know a professional athlete. I can actually help somebody who doesn't know where the next meal is coming from. So Kabamba to to to use these experiences now and teach my kids things that I was taught advocate You know I just I find a lot of value in it you know and I think in today's Society Today's generation of kids. They just see things differently. Market gets a still relatively young. Got Five to eight months so they're still relatively young but just being able to get them out and being able to serve about a young gay just instills made and in this particular relation. Kelvin is so much that you do and I didn't even the mention that you were named the week ten. NFL PA COMMUNITY OF EP. For donating ten thousand dollars to the United way of Greater Newark and sitting up a drive that generated twenty six thousand in bottles of water for residents in need in that area. Most of what you personally delivered of all these things that you do. What gives you? The most satisfaction at the end of the day is being able to put a smile. Somebody's face you know You talk about the distribution we just did in Newark You know it was a mother that can that had hat seven foster kids and for her to hug me after. She realized that she was going home with you. Know two boxes full of food and three you know the three cases of water just the motion In authentic emotion that somebody is willing to give to a stranger. You know she doesn't know me I don't know her. But you know that that genuine connection at the end of the day. It's something that I feed on. That gives me energy. I mean you think about this. This was been happening in particular season. You know you you gotta find interesting somewhere and for me you know men able to serve and being able to go and volunteer and be able to put that smile on. Somebody's face as there's something that I really enjoy something that I get a ton of satisfaction out of get energy from it. How do you manage the time with like you say you got three kids your volunteering at this food bank in New York City once a month are you doing all this other goodwill? How do you find the time to do all that? Calvin you know you make time for what you care about you know You know make time for my family. I got gymnastics class. Right after this this oh I got got five zero gymnastics class. And and two year old gymnastics class right up to that You know time management And as as professional athletes you know. We're we're pros. But you gotta be a prone sending out of your promptness and that take. That's a heart is. Is You know making sure that I'm here for my wife and my kids but also Making sure that actually go out of my community and at the time I try to bring my my family with me. So it's a it's a family or dealer for family affairs so it's not just Kelvin. Beecham doing it but this is the beach and family doing uh-huh and by bringing your family with you and bringing your three children. Do you believe that exposes them to the idea of giving of yourself of helping out of you've lending you support the communities and then it will rub off on them in a positive way that it will no doubt has to Well they won't they won't be living here too long around the house if they don't. They don't Shipping Kelvin. Hey Man the biggest thing together you know You know we've been blessed In in an extreme fashion you know we're blessed beyond measures. I would've never thought that I've been in the league this long still playing you know I WANNA make sure my kids understand. Just how special of life that they have And make sure that they use it the right way you know at the end of the day you talk about being blessed beyond measure in this Thanksgiving week like what are you most thankful for Kelvin. You know A Happy Wife. You know they always say happy wife happy life so very true for eh but I'm happy about and thankful for it and I'm just thankful that my kids are healthy. You know I got Keep talking about him. But you know I've I've I've been around families who who've had trouble having kids having trouble keeping PFLP Just Been Blessed and thankful that they're healthy they're in their right mind waking up with a smiling face with energy When I just thankful for that? How are you celebrating Thanksgiving? Well we gotta go practice. I I And then after that you know going to be spending time at home you know About two hours early so to be able to be home. You know about three o'clock and and and be able to have dinner with the kids and with the family There's GonNa be special. It's just me and my wife and the kids here in Jersey. You know what a lot of people don't realize that football. There are no holidays in football like Thanksgiving Christmas new years. It just keeps going on and on I would just tell them some folks. I haven't been able to celebrate Thanksgiving Christmas since I left Highschool to go to college so It's been sometimes actually August the traditional Thanksgiving kind of day but the thing is you make the best of it you know again. We're blessed something special so excited for. That's the job that's who oh comes with the territory and that's what you have to make do with at that point in time. It's just the way you know when you're done playing football whenever that is and you're tired you can have all the Thanksgiving and Christmas time you. He wanted that point in time. No doubt no doubt no doubt before I let you go you. The jets play the bengals on Sunday. And it seems like your team right now is rolling along as I found a Mojo in momentum. It didn't have early in the year. What has been the big difference? You know I've been saying this for the beat writers in the Locker Room. It's eleven guys on both all sides of the ball and all three phases one of the play for one another panic about one another It just executing you know it takes eleven guys playing and play out to go and execute and when when you do that consistently you start getting results in you know over the past couple of weeks and then ever do that consistently but you've gone from looking so bad to looking so good is is it. That's simple vegas. You know people trying to you know. Make the game of football so complicated when you just do your job consistently just do your job. You know Good things that happen and I I hate to make it so simple but you know. That's what coach and the coaching staff. And this organization has been preaching over over the last couple of weeks if your job. And what is your assessment of the way Sam Darnold has played especially as of late. You know what I loved about his players. He's been way more service not only on Sundays but also during the week you know putting the his fingerprint on the game plan you know being able to keep what he likes and throw what he he doesn't like so really hit have been. It's been great to see him. Just take control Of this offense and take control and take this organization by by the horns. Really starting to put his fingerprint on it. Thank you for taking the time today. Really appreciate I. I really have great respect for all that you do for the community. Forget about as a football football player. 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But you look at this week and there are six six games between teams with winning records this week this week so you wouldn't have necessarily thought that and some of them don't jump out to you but I. I think we might have a good week here but sometimes sometimes when we get to Thanksgiving look at the slate of games and you say this is going to be great. Wait a plant myself on the couch. Stuff my face and watch all the football game. I'm with you there. I'M GONNA stuff my face and I'M GONNA watch a lot of football but it's not like I'm saying boy I can't wait to see I think especially when you look at the three games on Thanksgiving is really only one. One that that sticks out in terms of bills cowboys yes. That's the one for me and and the bills are eaten. Three right like who. The bills are eight and Bush talking about the bills. He's talking about the bills and you look at look. Everyone's talked about the Patriots defense. The forty niners Stevens and with great the reason they have been the two best defense in the NFL who's third in the NFL and scoring defense is here. That's the buffalo bills and now they had down in Dallas cowboys coming off that loss us. And then we're GONNA find out a lot about the bills. I think we're GONNA find a lot about both teams in this game. Adam because you'll get the cowboys and it's something that we've we've talked about throughout the week that they have not beaten the team with a winning record this season. They'll have another chance to do that against the bills. The bills around Thanksgiving for the first time in about twenty five years since one thousand nine hundred four and this is a team that I think their fans and they have one of the great fan bases in the NFL. The bills there eighty three. I don't think like we just mentioned. Nobody's talking about them now. You've got a chance. You got a chance to go down to Dallas to show wire the third ranked scoring defense in the NFL and and beat a cowboys team. Hasn't I let me say this if Buffalo Wins this game Oh my God oh I know. Cowboys perspective from the cowboys. Perspective the remarkable marketable. Forget it I mean I got fans in Dallas. They are so agree. I one fan who. I'm friendly with the New York area. He texted me this morning. And and he's a frustrated rated fan. I never socialized him. He's a nice guy now then he takes him this morning. He said Jason Going to get fired and it takes back come come on patients. So let's see how this plays out and takes me back and read. I'm reading the exact. I went to New England for the weekend sat in the freezing cold. I'm so pissed off. Okay Okay and I think that summarizes how the Dallas Cowboys Fan feels going into this game and if it doesn't go there when thanks Giving Day oh boy that's going to be tough and and you look at it and they've got five losses all year two of them were against the AFC east. He got that. Remember that jets game and you remember the Patriots this week now. They've got another. AFC team coming. The into Arlington on the flip side of that is if the buffalo bills funding to be Dell said. He won't say whoo the bills right nine nine three right. I don't care who who you've played if you go nine and three in the NFL. That's impressed you have through three quarters of a year and you've won seventy five percent of your games doesn't matter who you play because everybody wants to poke. Oh closed their schedule and I get it but if you go down. And and they beat the cowboys in Dallas in Arlington and the bills. Know Nobody's talking and look what we've seen and we've talked about it before going back to Super Bowl fifty three when Bill Belichick and the Patriots showed against one of the League's best offenses is. You can still win in this league with defense. We saw this past weekend. The cowboys beat excusing. The Patriots. beat the cowboys with defense. How did the forty niners yes? The forty niners scored thirty seven. They also held Aaron Rodgers under ten. So this bills defense can still win games in the NFL and look at have or has whatever they have and and look if they win this game and you see what Josh Allen can do with both his legs and his arm it would be a date and look they're not GonNa win the division we know that the Patriots GonNa Win The division. They be dangerous wildcard. I don't think many teams WanNa see on on their wildcard week. They're a tough gritty team. They are and we'll see whether they can get it done in in Dallas on Thanksgiving afternoon all right another tough gritty matchup. The Cleveland browns traveled to Pittsburgh to play the steelers. I would imagine extra security will be on hand this is a rematch of the game. That took place two Thursdays ago when there were thirty three players discipline and the NFL handed out close to seven hundred. Twenty five thousand dollars in fines myles Garrett suspended indefinitely in this particular game Larry Cogan jobe will be coming back. Making his return turned action timely against Pittsburgh. No markey's Pouncey for the Pittsburgh steelers what stands out to you about this rematch of beyond everything. You just mentioned which is story a one when you think about this game. The steelers won fifteen consecutive home games against the browns. It has been a long time. Go back to two thousand three since the BROWNS won a game. I'm in Pittsburgh. That is the fourth longest home winning streak by one team against another that steelers over the browns. The steelers actually beat the browns and sixteen straight games back in the seventies and eighties. So Pittsburgh's when a tough place to play for Cleveland. But I think we look and that's the historical context but you look more at this season and you. You look at Brown's team that's won three in a row. They haven't played the best team. They won three in a row to get back in the mix there now five and six. You've got the steelers right in the thick of the second. AFC wild card race so this is a game that will be talked about for obvious reasons throughout the week and there will be a ton of build up but I think the the key is Kinda once once things start Sunday afternoon. The winner of this game is going to be in a decent spot for the wild card while the loser will have an uphill climb last. Forget I don't think we. We must sure we thought we'd be here with the browns in terms of talking about them for a playoff spot after they started to and six. So it's possible but it is possible and you look at it and finally what has happened. Happened doesn't take rocket science to figure out that this is what would lead them to success. Look it's Baker thrown to those two receivers. We knew all year that the talent that Odell. Oh Beckham Junior. And Jarvis Landry have the baker connected with them for three touchdowns in week twelve. They had four the first ten games combine. So it's getting the ball to those two playmakers makers and that can maybe help try and break that ridiculous losing streak they have in pits along fifteen fifteen straight games to lie losing all all right. The two prime time games after Thanksgiving Sunday night. We've got the Patriots traveling to Houston to play the Houston Texans Monday night. We have a great matchup which will get in a moment the Minnesota Vikings traveled to Seattle plus years. What stands out to you about knowing on traveling to Houston? Well you talk about that fifteen game winning streak and this is another Another others instance where you've got just complete domination by one team over another. The Patriots are ten in one all time against the Texans including the playoffs. You talked about a talk about a Houston team that it has a lot of patriot connections. They kind of always have over the years. They now still have bill. O'Brien and Romeo Cornell who are up in New England and this is a game that it you've you've got that historical significance in terms of the Patriots of always beaten the Texas but then on the other side. You've got to Shawn Watson who has been the best quarterback in prime time since he entered the NFL impromptu. I'm protest the best you look at. He's got eighteen. Touchdown passes and three interceptions in his career. Primetime Games his total title. QBR Eighty five out of one hundred highest in the NFL over the last decade among QB's with at least seven starts you'll get the guys he's ahead of. So this is the list Shawn Watson Watson Peyton Manning. He's pretty good. Patrick Mahomes drew brees. Tom Brady when you're on the top of the list like that. That's pretty impressive. Their last game he made the plays they needed to connected with the Andre Hopkins a couple of times to beat the colts in prime time. And now he's GonNa have another is actually already his third career start against the Patriots but his first in Houston so I think clown yeah you just you just made that match up a lot more interesting to me. I think it is and I think I think it's even more interesting with the backdrop of of the Patriots offense and I guess it's the the The factor of how long can how many weeks can the defense keep these these high powered offenses to ten points to thirteen points to allow the Patriots Offense score enough points to win the game. I think I think belt. They'll have a test down in Houston but look ten and one speaks for itself. The Texans have that history working against them there Monday night. Minnesota travels to Seattle what has become becoming really a really exciting match. I'm Monterey matching. He's had some great games this year last two weeks ago we had the seahawks and forty niners last week the chiefs chiefs and chargers. We had the ravens and rams this past Monday night and next Monday night. We'll have the vikings in Seattle. And what about this matchup stands out. Look you look at these two quarterbacks who are both playing among the best in the NFL. This year I think Russell Wilson clearly one of the MVP favorites kirk cousins has been Really really good since since about week. Five and the interesting thing with Kirk cousins and I think people always want to try and kind of poke holes and there's been reason to but the thing that I kind kinda came up with a look at like the climb kirk cousins over the last few games cowboys. He can't beat a winning team. He can't win in prime time. He wasn't won that game next week. The broncos game he had never won a game when trailing in the fourth quarter as the Vikings quarterback he led them to that comeback. They were down twenty points in that game now. He's got the third one. He has never won a game in his career on Monday night. Football is in seven as a starting qb. He owns Monday night football. That is the most losses to start a career on Monday night. So you look at that. And that's like the latest one right. We always you always hear about the kirk cousins Ali gets. It's unfairly criticized well this year. He's taking that criticism and he's reversing winning these games. Can he win Seattle. which is look? We know about their record at home in prime time on Monday night. It's not going to be easy but that's kind of an interesting storyline to me. So you're saying that kirk cousins is the Anti Shawn Watson. It's certainly a Monday. Tiny all right that is for certain. And you know what's interesting about. This is if we look at the two night games this upcoming weekend Sunday and Monday nights. You got to Shawn Watson trying to keep up the streak of being the best quarterback back in prime time in football. Got Tom Brady with a struggling patriots offense trying to salvage that and get going for the postseason begins. You got kirk cousins. Who's never won a game on my own seven and he got Russell Wilson bidding to become the next most valuable player in the NFL? So this story every quarterback here and as if we we don't have enough story lines you look at the teams the Vikings and Seahawks who are currently the wildcards depending on what happens on Sunday and week thirteen they could be playing for first place in their division vision for that when in that game Monday night so that is a fun. One that I'm looking forward to it. We had the same matchup last year on Monday night in Seattle. This one's got a little more juice. Evan appreciate you joining us today. Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family have a great week. Same thanks lots of a night out whether it seeing our favorite band in person or being there in the crowd Out to cheer on our favorite team with vivid seats rewards loyalty program. You can attend the concert or show of your choice. Earn credit towards your next live event. Vivid seats is the top OP source for tickets for all the live events. You WanNa go to. 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REShow: Andrew Whitworth. Hour 3 (01-15-19)

The Rich Eisen Show

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REShow: Andrew Whitworth. Hour 3 (01-15-19)

"Orig- is on demand. Your show your schedule. Fifteen minutes after ball dot com. Check out the casts at richeisenshow dot com. Our number three of the rich Eisen show is on the air. Great chat. With Terry crews, a former NFL player who's struck it big as an actor in Brooklyn nine nine in. America's got talent is the host on NBC right now from all sorts of television, and moves it was a great shower. Then we had taught mcshea on our number one to talk about Cuyler Murray and the decision he asked to make about baseball football. Because I don't believe he's able to do. Both you missed any of that go to our app apple app store. Google play at the link at the top of our Twitter handle to get our app. We also vote on our poll question about one of the best. What's the best football movie of all time? We'll get an update on that shortly. Chris Brockman, getting set to have a news update. But my guest to my right who I'm thrilled to half here on the rich Eisen show in person for the very first time is the Walter Payton of the year nominee for your Los Angeles. Rams get set to head to his native Louisiana to play an NFC championship game for the Rams Andrew Whitworth. Good to see you, sir. Appreciate you have meal. Appreciate you coming down here, especially since there was a possibility of rain here in Los Angeles. And I understand what that means. Yeah. I thought it was kind of Louisiana weather. So make an appearance is going down. There got to be honest with you. I remember going on a trip with my my parents my family. I was about eight nine years old. And I went to New Orleans took a tour of the Superdome and everything with my family and it rained so hard. I've never seen a rain that hard. I did. I remember this. I saw snakes coming out of the sewer system. That's a fact in uh. There's not much doubt. If you said you saw New Orleans. Pretty much everything goes that way. It wasn't mardi gras Tom either. I don't believe I don't think my family. My folks would have taken me to New Orleans during mardi gras but any rate. It's a big trip coming up for you before we get to that. I do wanna hit you on the game from from from Saturday night. And what went viral quite a bit? Was you hug in your kids on the sideline your first career playoff win? After all those years of trying to get one. What was that moment? Like for you, Andrew. It was amazing. I didn't think that the seal the deal would be Jared Goff making a play with his feet. Right. That wasn't my vote for how it start happening. But you know, what got big I down there were able to run the clock out. And it was it was an awesome just watching the seconds tick down and realize that it finally happened. If thirteen years trying to get one it was an awesome feeling. And then obviously the kids were just so excited this week, and they were pumped, and they you know, they wanted as bad as as anything. And so that's the first. People. I looked for when it ended because I knew I knew they'd be new my wife, and listen the kids would be running down to get on the field, and it was all four of them. Right. Four of them all of them. They looked can I guess like other all four under ten four hundred. Yes, oh, twin seven year olds six year old and a four year olds. Let's fun halfway to Philip rivers. Yeah. And so again, just hugging those kids and having that that moment in in the books for you. What was it like taking this journey and not having one to this point in time? You know, it was tough. I mean, I've been in a lot of good football teams. A lot of great regular season records, you know, a lot of expectations in just haven't you know, yet had where we put the full team effort together and got it done in the playoffs. And obviously having a bye week was amazing being a thirty seven year old offense allow the was good. You get a little rest. Right. And you know, what I thought we played that way we looked for action. And you know, what it was just amazing just to go out and play that way. And really when you have a plan together, and you go out and you execute exactly how you thought you would doesn't happen that often in the league. And man just what an exciting night and then running for two hundred seventy three yards. I mean that that an and also zero sacks of your of your quarter. Bac, and we heard a keep to leap jump into live television at one point talking about stealing souls and things of that nature and others were making reference that that could be some sort of heaven can wait Warren Beatty reference. But I doubt that heavily that was in reference. What the Cowboys had said all week, correct? Yeah. There was just some chatter about that. And just different people that you know, we're kind of looking to see whether we'd be able to perform the way we had in the regular season. And you know, there was some comments about whether the line would play well in those kind of things, and so we had you know, we we incentivize our selves. I mean, obviously, you you go out in those games. And you're gonna play the best of your Billy's. No matter what. Right. But obviously when you hear those things, and like I say as players we go out every week and people can comment publicly on whether they think we played well or not and people in the media, if you make a comment, you get to be held accountable as well. So, you know, that's that's kind of how we felt we felt the Cowboys made some comments and some others did as well. And we just kind of felt like as a great moment to kind of say, we're here. So there really is something in the. Twenty-first-century is bulletin board material. Well, I think Twitter board material, I think if you think about it this way, not to me. It's like be careful publicly. How you go about things. It's like nowadays that can dictate a lot of our weeks. Right. So if somebody in the media has a big following says something about a guy that kind of puts them down, and who they are a player, then me and my everyday life going grocery store going to store. I gotta hear it from people and fans like this person said about this. But you so it's not really as much as that. It's out there on the media is it's about now, you've kind of like this is something that I've got to listen to people constantly chirp ear about so I'm irritated. You know what I mean? And so that's really are. I think more players take it as that. You know, it is it's social media. It's for hall public to here. So when you announce it like that it gives the opportunity that you know, what that's what I'm gonna have to hear every day. So if prove you're wrong, I'm gonna let you hear about it. So you're saying while you're shopping, I see if I can do this without naming names here. So while you're shopping somebody with. Cart. That says the offensive line of the Rams is remaining liability in the playoffs. That's something. You're going to take to the Bank. Well, you just going to keep remembering because you know, if I walked the gross store, and I'm just trying to govern Bali catch up for the kids. Right. Yeah. So he comes up to me and says don't be allowed -bility like so and so said this on Twitter yesterday. Well that happened. Oh, yeah. You hear that stuff all time? My wife gets so magic is in the show. I notice shopping weather because if somebody makes a hey, don't hold this week or don't get another, you know, whatever penalty. I mean, I'd have to literally like restrain her from going after them like I'm not going with you in public places because you get so mad show. She's she's fiery now. She's but she's got your back in the same. I'm no problem with it. I think it's great. You know, that's the way it all. Hey, that's what didn't Giselle go at somebody that one time after Super Bowl question. She can't Tom can throw it end catch it. Yeah. But but again, just to put a button on this conversation here this part of our conversation. Tom Brady coming on after the win over the chargers. Insane. Everybody thinks we saw, you know. And so we'll see I mean, somebody with as many trophies in the cases he has and rings on his fingers as he has is using something that somebody said on television. Well, that's what we're talking by. Right. I mean, you can't run as fast as this guy. You can't make as much money as this guy. You can't have the kind of career this player has scores many points. Whatever it is. I mean, we're always your in. But we can't till we can't do. I mean, that's that's your nature because I guess you really think about you're the one percent of the world, and you've been overcoming odds your entire life to be able to play the sport. Where people said it's not likely that you can do it. Well, my my issue with it is this, and this is my end of it. And nobody's gonna cry a river over this, nor should you all also is that I try and do this job from this microphone where the metric of show like this is measured in a way about my opinions. And whether I'm right or not, and I will always say, what's from my heart, and Mike gutten, I will always do it in respectful way. Because I'm not going to be some sort of hot taker for the heartache then to then say stuff and just throw it against the wall. And have that Dan parroted by players who are like see, I told you. So that you're wrong. You're kind of giving them what? They want confirmation that they're being heard. I rather be right than being told that I'm heard, and I think a lot of folks in my business would rather be heard than be right? I think that's a safe assumption. So you're not going to help me out in any way. She still call people out. I know I'm not asking for your help. But you know, you see what I'm saying hundred percent. I agree with you a hundred percent agree with you. There's a lot of people that are just rather be heard Andrew Whitworth here on the rich Eisen show. Okay. So now, it's not just you being motivated by what you hear? Or what you feel you need to prove. It's also being smart. And it's also study your your your colleague on the line and Austin Blyth might have given up a little bit of a ghost here or not. I don't know. But did you know what the Rams the convoys defensive line was doing stunting wise based on a tell that you picked up on film. I would say every week. Really you come in with plan for the team you're playing really what you see them do. And and I don't think it's really, you know, something just telling about the Cowboys in the sense of that. I think what he kinda means like what we'd study with them and the different looks. And we're. People were in the formations and those kind of things that you know, there's certain things that you game plan to be able to do and and sometimes as Lyman, especially we can get a feel for guys depending on how they play normally whether they, you know, do different things and in throughout the course of a game. And you're like, oh, you know, what kind of can fill this out of his stance. I can feel this out how he's lining up on me that this is what he wants to do. I mean, that's just kind of in the game. I guess probably something most people don't think about because that's kind of inland play type thing. It just happens. Again. Sure. I mean, when you're certainly you're taking on a stunting team like the Dallas Cowboys, it would be helpful to know where the stunts coming from or when it might be tempted, and you know, Blyth was saying that based on where me Collins was lining up with the rest of the defensive lineman were putting which hand they were putting in the dirt ninety percent of the time. You could tell what was coming. I think sometimes interior guessing fill that. I I Don the edge. I just have to you know, worry about them running around the corner most share them. So I'm a little more. What about their get off and those kind of things. But yeah, I mean, there might have been some tells that he had there. But I think that's something more. You know, if you're playing exactly in the film study, you do a good job by him having kind of feel for the guys playing. What is C J Anderson brought to the equation here? I'll man I mean, just a physicality that has been special and you felt these last few weeks. I mean, it's man to believe that guy's been was at home and not on a team is just unbelievable. He said he told Dan Patrick earlier today. He thought the season was over when the raiders cut him. And that it was over that he thought that he was going to play football at all. And now he's playing some serious meaningful snaps for team that has Super Bowl aspirations. That's two wins away from actually lifting that trophy. I mean, he and girly or are a one two punch that I think you guys had not had previously with all due respect to the rest of the roster. Would you agree with that sons? I mean the way he's played. There's no doubt about it. I mean, those two guys that the match they are his physicality with football and his. Hand and Todd speed and Jila D And just the nature of what a great player. He is. I mean, when you add those one two punches, you know, people are tired and have to chase Todd or they're tired and gotta tackle him and get him on the ground. Think that they right now are playing very well each other and give something that we haven't had throughout the season. What's the what's the challenge with the saints here for you? Well, I think obviously those guys are you know, that tremendous on offense, and and you know, in in the door really good job defensively less after season. And you know, I think both of us are a little different teams and probably were when we played in week nine. And I think the opportunity for us to go out execute offensively and be able to run the football's going to be important. But you know, what also just as a team. I mean, this is one of those games that you gotta expect you're going to get the best of each other. So, you know, it's it's really not going to be about. Hey, we gotta go perform it's going to be. We gotta plan. Our best to the final tick. These these championship games always come down to something at the end. And so it's really going to be about not only trying to perform your best being prepared. But realizing you're going to have to do. It for sixty straight minutes. And you've got your your schedule for the week already. Right. Because obviously, Sean McVeigh has got it all down to the second. Was there? I don't you can not give away any any inside information. But was there anything on the list there allotting time for Marcus Peters to have some Gumbo with Sean Payton, I don't know, you know, what we get a little free time on Saturday. So maybe maybe they'll have got a little bit reunion. This is truly one of my favorite sound bites of the entire the entire week. Would you mind loading that up right now go for roller Frangieh Whitworth here where you where champagne instead after that New Orleans game you sit in that last week when we wanted they got the matchup. They wanted with you on him one keep talking we don't seem so fair enough because I like what he was saying on the sidelines to tell you keep talking, and I hope you see you soon you, and then we're gonna have a good little nice love all the Gumbo together. Jets Gumbel week. Let's eight he he deleted this. But he's ready to go. Yeah. You know, what's my guy, man? So I you know, what he's a little prophetic. Right. I mean, he did say that we I mean, then it's true. That is true. So at least check we check that. And I don't know whether they'll actually Gumbo together. But we'll see. So it's not actually on the list formal setup. Yeah. Happening. Those things go. I mean, you can text one another and just made up and grab some would be the best place in New Orleans for that. Do you know off the top of your hand and get me a lot of trouble if named one because they don't be offended. I don't wanna get you. You know, what I think there's plenty of places in New Orleans fund some Gumbo. Okay. You're on the LSU BCS national championship team for Nick Sabin at the loss at LSU. You not, sir. Woes did he recruit you personally, Nick Saban the houses first recruiting class? What was that like for you to basically he was coming out of Michigan state at that? I was actually at that time kind of decided I was going to Florida and play for Spurrier and Nick assigned LSU, and I change my mind and decided to be tiger. And, you know, did you call Spurrier and personally delivered that news? No, I did not. But I not formally committed. I was in the processing I'd visited there and kinda thought that was going to do and then Nate came in and I met with him over the summer and really just you know from day one rails. This guy's pretty special. And I was that was that, you know, I think there's certain people you meet in in coaching that just through a conversation of understand how they see ball. How they see the big picture of the process. How you go about being successful at something. It's bigger than just Xs and os, and and whether we're going to win or lose it's about man, this guy has a process day in and day out that he's going to go about to be successful. And it something that just cleaned you to him the moment you sit down with him. And I've always said this not that John has had that kind of success at all. But I've said since I've been there that Sean is one of the first people have been around like that that just immediately you can sit and talk with him, and you get a feel like with Nick that man. This guy's daily process rhythm how he goes about working and being successful is just different. It's different. I was going to ask you about. That is to is. There any similarities, obviously, they're from different generations. And obviously he like you just one first career playoff game. So obviously, there's some break pumping that you need to do when you talk about. Sean McVay at this point in time. But you could I could tell when I met him at the combine when he had just gotten the job almost two years ago at this point in time actually the anniversary of two years of his hiring was the night of win over the Cowboys. You could tell there's something there is their similarity in any way. I really the intensity really just the obviously both are extremely intelligent guys. But the intensity day in and day out. Just never changes never wavers. Never win lose. Good day. Bad day has nothing to do with how they're going to go about their job every single day at the same intensity. And there's never never once you like, okay. Today's not in the mood or today's going tired, and he's gonna let someone else I'm interest every day that intensity level is as a thousand percent. And and you know, it's almost you sit there and go manage no way, you can be that. Well, he's gonna wear out. But I mean, I've said that about Nixon's I was there which was seventeen years ago. So how often you in contact with them at all? But I thought somebody of the day. So you know, what Nick and I haven't talked since he left. LSU to go the dolphins. And I have zero doubt that you know, it would be odd walk in there. And it would be like we seen Chile before him and always had a respect for him. And that was one of his guys when he was there. And and you know, that's kind of how. Done most of my career, just the process. I go about things, and how do things a lot of that influence came from him. Well, obviously, you know, what you do. And how you go about Andrew Whitworth. People are going to be watching you. There was one play that I saw on the Twitter verses? Well that really jumped out was on the field goal that zero line attempted from damn near the parking lot. At the end of the first half the one person who ran down the field. Just in case. It was gonna get returned the person who beat everybody down the field that was. That was you you wear of those sorts of things when you're attempting them or is that just in eight for you. It is in eight a little bit in an aware at the same time. I mean to me it's always about opportunities in leadership to show, how important things are to you. And make sure that you always atone cetera. Emma, family with my wife, and the kids and all that we always talk about that like when we walk in a place where we go somewhere, we wanna be tone setters in the sense of just being positive and being somebody that people are like man, we want to be around these people because I mean, I think people see leadership and things a lot of different ways in my opinion. The greatest leaders are people that you wanna walk in a room with not that you want to listen to. So my point is like, yes, I can give you like somebody say later gives me advice. But the reality is if like, they're really truly great leader. Like, you're like, you know, what that's the person. I want to be around every day because I'm a better version of self when I'm around them into me. That's like what I try every day. Obviously, I make plenty mistakes. But to me, it's like I wanna have a conscious Mon of, hey. Who do I want to be you know, when people are saying, hey, is this the guy wanna look up to his guy wanna be on the line with this guy won't be teammate with am. I trying to do my best to be that version, you know, and just constantly questioned myself on that. Well, that's no surprise that. You're the Walter paid man of the year nominee, so good luck on that. And then do you spend last one for you? Andrew Whitworth just even a split second daydream about what the winning two more in a row. Would mean you spend anytime there's no question. Yeah. I spent a lot of time thinking about that. And how much made I mean, obviously, this weekend alone is a special place. I mean, you mentioned the message championship that's actually the Superdome where the Sugar Bowl and also won three state championships there so in highschool, so you're feeling good walking. And that's you know, what the is. I really special place to me, and and somewhere that majority of my athletic career allow the accomplishments I have happened in that building. And so obviously, it's a really special place to me and somewhere that. Said after we lost their last time. I thought that might be the last time I get to play there that man what would have place. All always remember how special it is to me and my family, and what have been able to accomplish there. So you just are you saying, you're contemplating retirement? And now, I'm not, but you know, you never know when when you're gonna go back. So I when we lost their and weeknight, I wasn't real sure. Whether we have the play out or how next year would play whether we'd be going there, they come to us. So, you know, I didn't know if I'd be back. So I'm I'm glad to be back. Didn't you hear from Marcus Peters since you were going I should listened to him? I didn't realize there was a Gumbo now. I do. I mean, you feel I mean come on. Now. I feel you. Okay. Very good. At a Whitworth seventy seven on Twitter as well on Instagram. Good to see you Andrew. Thanks for coming down. Here. You got an off day during between divisional and conference action. Really? Appreciate you stopping by person. I appreciate you got us. Andrew Whitworth of the loss Angeles Rams getting set to go back to his hometown to try and head to Atlanta to. Win it all that's right here on the rich Eisen show. Your phone calls in a news update. When we come right back. Cast one is your one stop shop for everything TV and pop culture of very candid, not even supposed to be on the record conversation at checkout. Any of the collider network podcasts. TV talk movie dog collider live and more. 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Last year makes the playoffs again, but loses that one and took care of business against the Cowboys. And that's been a whole conversation about well, we'll get into it with Jerry Jones's comments shortly about what the ram song Cowboys defense what they were able to explore against a team that hadn't given very much up on the on the on the ground game, but Walter Payton man in the air nominee, just good stuff. Right over there from Andrew Whitworth. Chris Brockman, let's get to your news update. Licking split hit. Special live report rock men with the new and it's brought to you by the twenty nineteen Honda Civic astonish. The Dan is available with turbo charged engine and paddle Shifter's for fun playoff proven performance. Hurry to your local Honda dealer for a great deal on a game, ready, Honda Civic. What you have over there. Christopher lot of speculation on Jerry Jones future with the Cowboys expected that he's going to get a contract extension. Jason garrett. Yes. He said Jerry Jones is we all we know Jerry Jones future of the Cowboys his debate. Exactly. Right. Okay. Features on that gigantic yacht. Now, whether Jason Garrett we back whether he will get an extension, of course, Jerry Jones commented on that. When I look at what our coaching staff and survived. I give it a good great. As gave it a grade when I look around at what other teams are doing and trying to do to find their head coach Jason Garrett had been out on the market two weeks ago. He would have had five offer head coaching. I know that Jerry. So you've got to look at what your alternates did. We've got a very young team. We've got a team that we've got going in direction got players. We've got going into direction you make changes, and you're gonna change direction. Well, you know, Adam gays face. I'm going to stop. I'm going to stop doubting Jerry for the moment. You know, Jason. I just in jail. I took the cheese on the Amari Cooper acquisition. I took it. I was one of the many that just like was having a great time. Jerry, doesn't know what he's doing. He's given up a first round selection for wide receiver that has hardly done. Anything? I was still a little pissed that Amari Cooper destroyed my fantasy team last year, you know, and and I took that cheese. But he was right. I took the cheese draft night. What's Jerry Duin? Dez is out there just make up with them. Well, we'll see what happens draft night doesn't take Calvin. Ridley takes this kid from Boise now Jaylen Smith, what's he doing taking him in the second round? What his knee all blown up. What I guess he was just doing his brother of favor, south favor. What's is Jerry? I do. Maybe we should stop. And anybody else that does what Jason Garrett did take three and five team and have the offense be more. Honestly, he didn't go for it in Houston on that Sunday night game. He punted away in lost in overtime and got roasted for it. Well, guess what? He did he started like that was. Like, I told you on the show. The other day went Ford on fourth down three times. He was two for three on fourth down going for two point conversions. He was his aggressive. Preach antics, Liotta all of a sudden. So Jerry might be exaggerating. How many jobs that Garrett would have been? Tagged for but. I'm done doubting. Jerry right now, they do have a young team. Now, keeping Scott Lenihan might be something that you can try and look at and defensively. Again, what what we were looting to Andrew Whitworth. It was a tell an absolute tell Whitworth said those guys on the interior. He's just focusing on the hot boy that's coming off the edge to try and keep Jared Goff alive. But on the interior when they saw me Collins shaded closer to the tackle the Rams said to here comes the stunt. And then if he lined up wider Rams look to see which hand was in the dirt for the Cowboys, and they could tell which way that we're going to go with stunt. And if the Rams can see it, and they could see it on tape and see it on film, and then they were able to gash a Cowboys team with that maybe they should start taking a look mid game changing what they were doing. So they're still questions about the Cowboys coaching staff, but I'm done having my fun with this opposed low hanging fruit with Jerry Jones for the moment. They've got a young team with a ton of upside. Do you really think of Jason Garrett was let go five other teams on dot so maybe exaggerating, but you definitely would have been other teams that have definitely been interested in him. I think again, I know everybody thinks he's just a Clapper and all that business, but he does set the tone, and they did change their style. When Amari Cooper arrived. They did have more third a little more vertical. But they also had more motion. They had more stuff going on how much is that with born out of the criticism that Dez Bryant was throwing down. And also the tight ends that there were supposed to be the Bermuda. Triangle actually started becoming significant in the last month of the season. They're like they're youngest team. I think that was in the playoffs or definitely in one of the two youngest. Teams average age twenty they won the NFC east. What else you have? All right. Also in the NFC east last year. Suitable champions the Philadelphia Eagles, obviously walk going on there at their quarterback position. Doug Peterson and how he Roseman addressed. Okay. The possibility with Nick foles today. Yes. Of course is a quarterback going forward and Nick's case. Listen, we would love to have everybody back throughout the roster. But as I've said, many many times, you know, it's not about one guy. You know, it's about the team. And we're going to do what's best for the team. We would love to keep neck false. I mean, you talk about a guy who we've we drafted year and we've grown incredibly close with. I mean, I don't know team that wouldn't want to have Nick foles on their roster. So certainly as we go into the substance of those discussions, we haven't had them yet. But there's no question we love Nick foles as an eagle in Philadelphia. And we'd love to keep them. Look at some point the business is going to take the front seat. And we will see if the eagles go the extra mile to extract something for Nick foles. And if that antagonist Nick foles, and if his business takes the Francie too because he's got a tunnel. Leverage in this. Let's see out all plays out. But it's interesting that they've already declared Carson Wentz. That's a pricing. It doesn't surprise me. It doesn't surprise me. I'll say the third time. It does not surprise me. But I need to keep saying that in order to. Yeah. I mean because that's two years. Now the first year was him playing with reckless abandon jumping head for an end zone with Aaron Donald and never others. The Rams coming at him and his leg. Got crunched in the wrong spot. Boom, bad luck. But also style of play which everyone had been talking about for while with him leading up to that. It's dangerous in there. You don't go ahead. I I haven't for the live for another day. You get such a great running game you got Arab blunt at the time. It got J Gye. You've got a whole offense live for another day. Don't go diamond head I front end zone. Fine. Come back. Next year struggling looking good as the previous year. But that's to be understood coming back from a knee injury. But then a back problem comes up, and those are fickle beasts, and Nick foles is special. They love to have him. I don't think Nick foles is going to be like, you know, what I'll make my twenty million dollars in the clip boarding unless he wants to go the Kirk cousins route here year-by-year make a ton of money until he can finally have the leverage to go where the hell he wants. We'll see if the eagles franchise him which could happen. What else lie? Thirty four million dollars though, or whatever I think it'd be like twenty five million number is. Let's see. No. But I don't think I think they would franchise him not for the attentive keeping up with the intent of trying to trade him. Right. Just a couple other coaching notes. Mike monk check ends up. Joining the Broncos as their offense of line. Coach Gary kubiak to the Vikings as an offense of advice. Now kubiak Elway clearly didn't see eye for him to not get the job there or it was Vic Fangio saying, I got my own thing. Right. And I'm sorry, John. I know you're tight with kubiak. And that he's won a I don't want to have a former Super Bowl head coach who's your best friend being my coordinator my first ever job. So you can understand Vic Fangio made some sort of maneuver to say, I don't want this. And which is explain why he didn't want to answer those questions that press conference about kubiak because it was something up in the air and make sense and kubiak is now going to Minnesota where Kevin's defence key is still the offense coordinator, but kubiak son is on the. On a staff and apparently everybody likes each other. And it's great. But Why's munch act leaving the Pittsburgh Steelers? To go to Denver Broncos. Now, he has family apparently in Colorado, which would make sense right there. But he was passed over for the head coaching job in Denver, and he's still going there is that bad in Pittsburgh. I don't know, man. You have to sit here and wonder it's only Brad some real weird tweets this morning. Do wouldn't you want to get the hell out of there if you're right? And was like the ship seven thing was I'll read it out loud too. Because because you know, this is our favorite low hanging fruit game as well. Let me find it right here. Which is which is Big Ben saying something that can be misconstrued. You extra words in the article in the article, I read on ESPN dot com of Montana showing to going from Pittsburgh, Denver, quote is what he said, I guess in his radio show making a public plea prior to munch leaving to retain munch quote. I pray that fans, right? As many letters. They can to Mr. Rooney to keep coach munch ACA around he such a special coach. Yes. Or no, there's one more one more STET sentence that sends us in totally different weird direction yesterday. Yes, let's hear when the linemen are happy and love to play for their coach. They play better. So check is making the linemen unhappy and they're not playing hard air go. No, no the way I took it as like, they're not happy blocking for his balanced quarterback. That's going to home fame. Shouldn't that automatically keep them? Happy. She's weird. It's just you know, what I mean? Like, we can all there's always one line that causes you to just go. That's a little weird. It's a little off, isn't it? Why can't he just I don't just like just stop it? Right. There's just it's always like Costanza. There's no one leave to quit college things. Former Notre Dame quarterback Brennan wimbush Trant. He's a graduate transfer for next year. Go play at central Florida's. That means he's out of the portal, or he's in the Puerto words or protocols or the protocol Puerto there's no parole call he is but still eligibility. So he's going Trump's reporter then he's going to play next year phantom zone goes into the the atmosphere with generals ought in it that needs some sort of nuclear blast to get you out of it. He safe not in there. He's not in Michigan's new of coordinator, Josh Gaddis had no idea he was even going to be recruited by Michigan. Jim Harbaugh apparently landed him in a couple of hours. Josh Gad said, quote when Jim called me cut me off guard cause I was literally just left a meeting Nick Sabin where I was getting my but shoot out for twenty minutes and then telling him I was leaving. And he tried to keep me to stay. Yeah. Apparently did not go over what's happening right now is Josh Gaddis who is a co coordinator believe with the offense in Alabama was getting some offers from other schools at any apparently was going in the direction of Maryland. And when Harbaugh heard that he was thinking of leaving Alabama goes will let me let me get in on this and five hours later, he was Michigan's play caller and Harbaugh's apparently going to hand the entire offense off to him to which I say. Love it bring Jalen hurts. And this is just a the the whole shape. Patterson is just fine. But use him use him it away with you got some big huge NFL quality, physical wide receivers out wide. Let let's go. It's the twenty first century and to to that I say just bring it on full circle here that some folks think that may be Jason Garrett should reimagined himself with a new offense coordinator in Dallas in the same way. That's Andy Reid reimagined himself and Coughlin eventually reimagined himself while still on the job with the giants and Harbaugh having the ability to say, you know, what let's get this kid this younger guy from Alabama and bring him in. And it's your job. Kudos. I think that takes some sort of looking in the mirror, and of course, the twenty first century aspect of it all is this story came out on Jim Harbaugh's podcast. How do you get gas on his pod was able to they were land that booking right? Okay. Let's take a break. I will explain to you. Why I'm going to leave this chair for today's best? I can't it can't come out. But that's next here on the rich Eisen show. Hey listeners just wanted to take a minute to thank all of my great sponsors. And all of you. 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Diehard is seen of longest yard is that a football seem no diehard happens in a building. And is about a man in a woman coming together while he's trying to save people from being killed by terrorists. And you go that's a Christmas movie. The first thing you hear in die. Hard is Christmas music action movie that takes place at Christmas heating Richmond, Virginia, you're on the rich Eisen show. What's up Pete? The afternoon to you, gentlemen. How are y'all Mr. is always a pleasure Rochman? And if you buddy how in the world is dive ARD Christmas movie, which I think it is all has some music and the Christmas tree in it. But how do you say longest short is not a football movie. It's about of ex pro quarterback was nailed for shaving points. And then goes to prison to lead a football team in football game. How in the world is not a football movie that takes place in prison. So I guess Friday night lights isn't a football movies high school movie that just has a football team. And I'm I'm up there and listen to you Bragman cheap. And I gotta say this to you are the nickname of radio baby. I love you. Thank thank you. That's correct, Kris. Let me handle this for you. Okay. Because you've just been owned not really Umit. It's been a long time since she's in the longest yard. It's been a long time. I actually thing. I just didn't. I didn't wanna put it on owned up. I owned up. I haven't seen varsity blues you didn't even own up. Like could you make this argument longest yards not a football moving? You haven't seen twenty trying to stick to my story. Week. All right. I'm outta the chair the next two days. It's Kirk Morrison's job to handle you. Well over time. I am heading out of town. Okay. To shoot a little secret about I haven't told you I'm shooting something for future, airing. Okay. And I've been told I'm not allowed to tell you what I'm doing by the person who has invited me to appear on this person's vehicle. Oh, I know what it is. You do I after all that and take a guess, I won't tell you if you're right or wrong. But I'd love to get you get on the initial J. For what Jewish the person that. You're gonna be with no talking about speak Spanish coffee and cars, I'm thinking. Oh, Jerry Seinfeld. What's your guest cheese? That would be incredible. But I'm not a comedian. But that's okay. I assumed it was something NFL related Roger Goodell. Okay. Jackson that was my sumptious. Reggie jackson. Once cars Harvey like he has he had some sort of episode. Reggie jackson. Guy. Reggie Jackson is a big cars guy. Jerry seinfeld. Does have a show called comedian cars getting coffee. I'm not a comedian. And you are out of your go right now. You're both that your guests. Okay. It's my guess something NFL Royd, I'm gone two days. And you will see me next on Friday Super Bowl commercial where I will be talking with about a cameo. I made on I'm sorry on TV, the brilliant. 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Full Show (Drew Brees, Jake Fromm's apology, Kevin Durant's return, Tiger Woods, Dak Prescott, Aaron Donald)

"Welcome to the undisputed podcast I'm your host Jerry Taft. This podcast is the full show from today's episode of undisputed from start to finish. They've got a busy slate so skip Shannon. Let's get to it. Good Morning Welcome to undisputed. Happy Friday. I'M JENNY WET! Standard Shar. Today a great. Ratty old, blue Friday is Olympia, also blue. I always. Make, but seriously. We could not obviously be at the service, yes, or yesterday in Minneapolis. And we WANNA pass along our respects to the Floyd family for service that fire TV certainly look beautifully and powerfully done it would. Remain Al Laid it down. He did he. Laid it down. And by where there were some beautiful images from that like the fist-bump, we have a packed show so much to get to today. Good to see you guys and I do want to start with the latest with drew brees after breeze apologized for his comments about protesting during the national anthem teammate Michael Thomas tweeted that he accepted the apology and was ready to move on the saints, notable odd still have not dropped may remain in the top five so Shannon. How much will breeze comments damage? They're super bowl chances. I don't think the odd should have dropped with the simple fact drew. brees is still there now. Although the locker room might be fractured somewhat currently, there's time to repair. It is going to take some time and what's difficult about? It is that they're not? They're virtually. It's one thing being able to see a person's body language to actually talk to this individual unseen. Okay, it's sincere or is this just? Just a crisis that he happened to be engulfed in, is these sincerely sincere about his apology about what he said, and you can get a sense about being around the guy. Skip think what really hurt. A lot of black America is that drew has been in new, Orleans, for the better part of over a decade, and he's done great things just a month ago. He gave five million dollars to feed. During this pandemic to feed the hungry, he's done so much. Katrina he is a raining Walter Payton man of the year. He won that award, so he's been exemplary in the community. Guys couldn't understand drew. You can't empathize. You can't or moment. Set Aside Unite drew brees, you want us you a man of color, you a woman of Color, and you're walking down the street and you'll find six times more likely. To be accosted by the police and met with generally Ford's. Then if you were actually drew brees, could you? You can't understand that drew, and so it caught them off guard because they didn't see. You have to be mindful when you are a leader of eighteen. There's a lot of responsibility that comes along with leading. There are many that there are very few that chosen me many walk to leave, but bear fewer children, and when you are chosen to be a leader of men, especially men of differ races, different backgrounds social economic status religious. You've got to be mindful because some things that you might say if it was an all why? Might not fly when you got black guys or if you have all black, it might not fly. You Got White Mixed, so you have to be my for how the message you're trying to disseminate is going to be received. Fit Well Oh you now. Those days are free what I say in moving on those days are long gone skipping. I think people need to understand that, but I think because they the benefit of time which is the regular season starts something like three months gift, so we don't know. I guess I think the head coach is again getting back into the building today I'll pay system. Coaches can get back and build a building on Monday, when the players are allowed I i. don't know that skip but I was told there was a meeting Several players spoke. Malcolm Jenkins Cam Jordan. Micheal Thomas And but what I was told if that drew, it seemed heartfelt. Emotional. And rightly, so you can understand. Yeah, I don't think drew thought in a million years when he said when he said he was going to receive the blow back now that he received. That's the point he he just. He spoke what he believes writing and so yeah, that's the question that the guy that's going to happen and that's what they're going to need to get around drew and seek. Yep, are you really sorry? Are you just happened to through in Christ? That you didn't expect to be in in this PR. Baby to find that out, but the locker room is fractured because they saw side of drew, they didn't think existed in so skip anytime. Someone reveals themselves to you your shop initially, the you like wow, that I really feel so you have all these questions. But if anybody can navigate this team through this Sean Payton, I don't really know Sean personally but I know guys that play for me and people that have been around, and and they swear by either good a leader. Is that the coaching position in the NFL, so anybody can navigate these guys through this water. Sean Payton has got to do it, but they gotTA. La. Navigating to? So yesterday you surprise me a bit because you went all the way to fractured. Yes, and it was clear to me. You were deeply stung by these comments. You were hurt. Just Way Malcolm Jinking. We saw in the videos posted. Yes, was just devastated blindside, yes! and. Because we are a sports show now we have to to leap to the conclusion of okay. What what's going to happen on the theme is almost superficial and irrelevant and and. Not, even pertinent to this, the subject right now seems. We we all do care about what's the fate of the saints now on the field next year. So? You're leaving it open. You're not sure got wait and see how they do. Respond over the next couple of months, exactly rights to decide. Is it going to impact their won loss record, right? So in the end. What's fascinating to me about this is? I told you yesterday that in my experience and I go way back with your league. The National Football League. I have been around two teams that I know of. That one in spite of racial tension in their locker rooms, tension that that threatened to split the team, but both teams had very strong black leadership in the message that was preached all year internally was. It it's okay. We can overcome this. We we can all pull together and we know what he is, and what he is and what he isn't right, but we have to rise above that because our common goal, the only common goal we have is to win a championship in the two teams that I know of rose above right now. There was one key difference. Those issues were not made public until after the season was over right. They didn't come out on the fly in the moment. This is in the moment right? Those teams did not have social media. Right. It's changed the world just as we are in a world changing moment right there. In large part, it has to do with social media as the driving force of possible change strip and I think you'll agree with me on this. Had we not been in the moment? In which we're in Andrew said what he said. I don't think he would have gotten the blowback that he got that. that he got because guys are saying things similar true. Okay, that's disrespect for the flag. Just happened to be the moment right that were in. Let's say hypothetically. Three months ago, drew brees just happened to be doing a Yahoo Finance interview in Russia, point came up yet, and there had been yet. No George Floyd right well. Maybe it comes, and it goes. You just Kinda. Shrug it off. The blowback guy. Okay so now you have black players. Many of them very involved in social media, so the difference now and you can speak to this is. That now you have direct contact with black community followers who are going to. To call you out or at least call upon you. Don't allow this to happen, right? You must stand up and. Say No to drew brees right, which which obviously all of the The star saints that I did I miss any, but I think cam. Jordan was a little bit right fifty. Hold out. Until. He actually talks to PLO camera Michael Thomas who else manual sanders. And Obviously Malcolm. They were just boom boom boom, right they condemned right drew brees comments. This is the face of the saints, a beloved figure in the city of New Orleans and it was just instantaneous. No, no, no, no right. I thought you were my friend. And now you're part of the problem, said Malcolm Jenkins okay. HOW DEEP! Does that wound run? That's that's what I don't know yet because these are different times than before we're. Those black players going to come together when they actually hit training camp. Is it possible I'm going to go to now? I'm going to do the other hypothetical to the clearly the other side. Is it possible they finally decide. We just can't play with this man. That's the time where right now we have to take a stand we've never taken. We have to tell Sean Payton and we just can't abide this will. He showed us who he really is, and we just are not comfortable playing football with him as our quarterback in our leader. Is that possible? Is that just too radical? Is that, too? Extreme well, I think the thing is. Is that once they get around? And what's difficult for Jews drew skip. Is that where we at now with this covert? Still going on she can't get out and get on the front lines to show that he's willing to put. His actions to the ridicule of apology, so it's going to take some time, but I believe because we're three months away. And because of the time, and because of who they have navigate manship and Sean Payton I. Don't believe it will get to that. Point. But I believe the locker room, but fractured, and the thing is, is that would you mentioned yesterday? Skip if that the Romanovsky will. We had heard that she made in Denver. WHO SAYS FAT JJ? Still just Monday night football. Everybody thought we had heard I. mean from a give you know you hear things in the league that he may be saying something like this or he had done something like that, but I mean. How do we verify it? He had never said that would be. To Mind, he had never done anything like that. Being a team mate of mine so I don't like to. Say I don't like to get being secondhand. If so when he did a like oh, everything that they said was true. Yeah, and so when we had the team meeting, it was it was. It was it was tense. It was it and you know who the. Guy Heels. I do that's that's that's just. Skip when I had the after we had the meeting Romo and I got together game for another twenty thirty minutes. I just talk Romo. You need to understand you just so people get white player who spat on a black player Jake. Spitting it. Look my grump Ooh. What bad I! I I'll be honest with you I am hate to see somebody. Spit on the ground like you couldn't go. Why gotTa Watch that, so? He's in his mouth, so he's taking his mouthpiece dripping and I. Didn't know anything about that, so they're talking about it after the game, so we get to it. The world saw this on my night football. Right Baba the I'm sitting down on the bench and so I. Don't know anything about it and I just went by. Everybody is like the locker room is buzzing Yup and I'm like. Like this, but it took me talking to Romao and being around him, and he he and I have come become better friends over the course of the. Through talking to him, and I understand that the moment, but I say Romo. You can't get caught up in the moment. I say those are not in our community. No, I said Jj's don't fool born in a little different time, and a little different place than Shannon Sharpe and a lot of your teammates. 'CAUSE had been one of us. Oh, yeah, no, it been! It had been still been fighting so but I believe that's because there is three months, and what hurt them so much is because this. Leader. He just gave five million defeat to Hong God's own pockets. He's done so much for that community because the New Orleans with heavily African Americans still and he's done so much immunity. He's been met Walter. Payton man of the year. And sold for four magic, come out of drools mile for drew not to have the understanding and the empathy and the one thing. What call people also skip that you don't quarterbacks severe measured. They won't do or say anything that's going to impugn that reputation. No, they do a great job specially. Yeah, because remember I, told you. quarterbacks are the most selfish guys on the team. Bathed done the better job of marketing and imaging y'all so you don't see that and so what drew? You would say that? Wild and so we heard a lot of people and killed Malcolm. Jenkins has been on the front lines of this. He's the player coalition. He's been on the front and he's trying to get things changed, and so that and I think that's why it was so emotional for him, because he's front and center, and you know he's trying to get guys to open their eyes into just as just to have empathy and see the other side. Yeah, and it's like drew if we can't get juicy, how will get the worst of the world? See Okay so for the record. Shaquille O'Neal last night on TNT, did say the he'd already set up a couple of weeks ago to be on a call with the saints that took place yesterday that turned into the drew brees. Assume. It's a virtual home, yes. In so shack was privy sack actually got to listen to the back, and forth between drew in his teammates, and he said that Sean Payton ask him not to divulge too much of it, but he heard most of the teammates on the virtual call except drew's quality. Okay I'll I'll accept that for now, but. How deeply did it burn? How far will it carry into the future once they reconvene? Ida is face to face your bag. Give you a prime example. You remember when the Rut. Coach Fangio going Fangio may say he don't believe racism exists. What about the Riley Cooper Philadelphia? We forgot to bring down yesterday. But you remember when who's the head coach? He Ucla right now Joe Chip Kelly. They put Michael Vick and a lot of other black players on the spot. I've asked Michael on this show about. And he said he regretted how he reacted. He said he said that his apology did but a lot of people. As I can honestly say. I've been in a lot of situations where someone? Yeah but I have yet to hear say somewhat after they apologize I. Don't accept okay. Everybody might say the accepted at the time because that seemed to be the right thing to do skills. Let's try to move past this move and Ben. You and somebody else could off the cameras. You can work out your differences issue so I expected nothing less, but it's hard for me to bleed everybody's everything's cool. We're back to normal. Normal drew never say it's almost like drew. Never say what he's saying is hard for me to believe. Having been in locker rooms in having set in having, said what he said, and what it means to. The black community is hard for me to believe that everybody's like okay. We all good now. Let's go back into normal living. Good I'm with you on that now. Let's look at drew brees plight next year, yes. He is in decline I've told you before. He looks older to me. At forty one then Tom Brady has looked at almost forty three. If you look at his numbers last year, he had an awful into the year game against the Vikings with they lost time the superbug dome he didn't play. Will he had a qbr forty seven scale your one hundred, so he was below average. He had a late lost fumble. Remember that with four minutes later. It really changed and tilted. Tilted the plane right? He was thirty fifth last year among quarterbacks in completion on deep passes completion percentage. Okay, so he's losing the deep Armstrong. He can still throw those mid to Michael Thomas. We know that, but the point is. Is this going to be his swansong year? We all think probably in Sean Payton blurted out two three weeks ago like this drew's last year and they said well I didn't really mean, but it sounds like he wants it to be drew slash. That seat that he's going to be honest. Getting hotter and hotter, because now the world is going to be focused on drew's performance. How will this impact his performance? And maybe they'll be some building sympathy for him because it's his last Terai Year I. Don't know, but I also think do not forget. There is a new backup quarterback there. His name is James Windows in all he did last year was lead this holy in yards, passing over five thousand yards passing, and he did throw the second. Most touchdown passes to Lamar Jackson this league, so he's sitting there by the way he is a black quarterback, and if drew struggles will, they'll be a locker room groundswell. Of maybe we should give Jamison shot here. Which is why not quick development? A lot of the betting sites are they say over the last twenty four hours half of the bats, friend EP have been on James Winston. Wow, because you can get him at long odds right now, but people are thinking. Wait a second. Maybe he will get a shot if they are fracture. Maybe James Kitson shot and maybe James and that offense can really flourish at high left because now what you're going to get skip if the saints struggle, everybody will go back well. How much of this related to what you re saying saying so now? Who is created a? A narrative that didn't need to be there because now. Everybody always look what he's saying what he's done I mean. How much of this goals to what happened three months ago and so narrative has been created, be fair or unfair and I. Agree with these odds. I mean I saw Lamar Jackson last year with fifty to one so just imagine someone getting on better one. Somebody came up with a payday because Phil Mickelson. Bet On us to win. The Super Bowl and I think we have forty. Two something is really like seven hundred thousand dollars, but that's not driven. That do but skew the thing. Is that when you look at it? Man I would not want to be my last year and then have this hanging. Yep. Well, that's not how you WANNA. Go Out, skip obviously from just a pure football perspective. I've already picked Brady's buccaneers don't win this division and you're still sticking with. Even fracture no! They can fight through. They can fight through it. I I think you I think you're overvaluing the books. While underestimating, the saints drew brees now. Yeah, he has yeah. He had a lot of the draft javelin throwing. It seems like he's running throwing the Javelin to get the ball. Down the field, but somehow he's been able to survive because he's never had Brett. Farve arm to begin with. He's never been. No one's going to say man. You remember when you had a homes arp. Nobody's GonNa say that about drew brees, and he's always been in most of the guys that have high completion percentage skill Joe Montana had a high completion percentage. I think Ken Anderson had the record they did have big arms, but they were pinpoint accurate, and what drew with, and he's done a great job. He got all these yard already touchdown doing something. So now took me picking the buccaneers to get you a little bit more back. No, no, no, no, no, no, I I got. Your radio I still got still picking them to take. You wrote it down. Winner visit well all I know. Is this season just got even more? Cases blew up my case. Courtesy of skilled. Catching up to do Shannon. How many cases of do are you? After this basketball you. Restart after our back in studio? Bills Rookie quarterback Jake. FRAHM apologized for a text from twenty nineteen. That was released about guns from said that they should be expensive, so that quote. Only elite white people can get them Shannon. What was your reaction? We heard about this text that was released. Not Surprising skill. Isn't this the crux of the argument that blacks have been trying to make? This is textbook. Definition of racism is that he thinks even titled to something solely based on the color of skin bath. What racism is that the nutshell? That's if you look up. To the dictionary look racism. He's justified. Laid it out for you. I'm entitled to something that you're not because the color of my skin, and that's how it's been. Since the inception since we first landed here brought here in sixteen nineteen. You'll lower than I am. Because you're darker than me. You're black. I'm white I'm better. I'm smarter. That's it. Skip I believe over the next three to six months. You're going to see a lot of this stuff. Start to spill I agree I, think and remember I told you. Three people take the truth. Drug candidate people now. Somebody was angry. Somebody text message. This is not something that was disseminated on social media. Yeah, so somebody got fed. And it's like okay I. Got You I got some for you. And that's what happened. And I don't I mean you don't really WanNa? Give I I'll be the first to admit I've always been a fairly good athlete, but I really never thought. That I was better than someone because I was black I thought it was better than you. Because of my talents, I thought it was better than you become worked hard I don't automatically assume anything and I've been paying for it to that I think I have a lot to do without my grandmother brought us up, but to think you are entitled to, or you're better than based solely on the color of your skin in Hebrew. He was so black. They got no second amendment rights so Dan. There are certain things it should be only applicable to them. The second the second. Amendment rights and I have the right to bear arms, but I think they were talking about the military, but that's neither here nor there. Says, I have the right to bear arms say nothing about a color your skin, but he believed in racism exists in systemic. Because of this so I'm glad he got called up. I mean people say a lot of things in there behind closed doors is totally different. I saw where Word Oregon State, player incoming freshmen. If I'm not mistaken, got kicked off the team for some of his rhetoric. Is GonNa Start to spill out and I think we might be surprised of some of the people that might be engulfed in something similar similar to. So you mentioned. Somebody got angry enough to leak this. To expose them. So. Let's go deeper into that because for me. This is a whole new development. A whole `nother level that this country is experiencing right now in my lifetime, I have never ever seen. So, this text was leaked onto twitter. By a female acquaintance I don't know exactly what their relationship was of Jake and at George, her last year. Yeah, I don't know if it's a girlfriend or just a friend, not sure about that. But she posted the tax that was obviously private between the two of them. And what happened was that she also posted another text exchange with another friend of theirs. Who who texted Jacobs called me three times. Please take down what you just posted because he's in trouble over it and she said I can't. It's not right. And she went on to explain female acquaintance and Y. Obviously. White Jake from. I don't want to see him go down. But I know part of helping the cause. On my end is to call out things like this. And if anything I don't think he'll get fired, but I think he might have to make a statement, which would be good. Will he obviously had make a big? Big Apology. Yes, so everybody out there think with me about this. White female acquaintance look back at her text messages one that stuck in her cross snuck in her psyche from last year, and she said she. Looked at her twitter site last night. She is on fire with outrage over George Floyd, so she's so caught up in this 'cause black communities 'cause that she finally decided. I can't stay silent on this. I'm going to expose what he texted me last year. Is it fair I don't know you can argue friend to friend. It's not fair. Is it right? She saying it's right, right? Okay here we go in. It's to the point I keep telling you again. I'm looking at from a white perspective, but every time I. Turn on a protest, demonstration a march. I am pleasantly shocked that young white people are coming out in droves. Support their black brothers and sisters, and it feels different to me. It does in my younger days. There was a thing called white guilt. We're white. People just felt guilty. This didn't feel like guilt me. It feels like love. Right feels like they want the chain. They want to be a representation. Representation for every okay so. Then, she post also the text exchange with her friend. WHO says they're talking about dropping him right now as in cutting. And this woman who posted the Jake from Tech said. How is that my fault that he's going to get fire right with this? How is that? Right. She's doing her part, right. Okay. You good with that. SKIP. I'm always leery of stuff. Because these kids text message I just guess regarded and I'm always leery of people that save hoard text messages. Because why you doing that, you and I get into a disagreement. Are you going to leak something to try to embarrassed or to try to make me look bad? That's what that's what I believe that you that you would try and do and so for me skip. Obviously you know I've had you know takes between acquaintances and I don't I. Haven't said anything incriminating. I haven't been racial or anything like that, but I'm always a little leery of bet that when people home text messages skip I'm always like. Are You doing that I? Mean what what's? What's the end game in permits give? Apologize, he apologized for say for getting caught skipping hard to believe that you have something embedded in you for twenty one years, and and you make an. Or fifty word apology in that just like that you're. He'll okay I with you. The way this was exposed is is not right to me. But what God exposed so wrong that you say okay? I got it and he did show. You is private CI. She showed you his private said. That you, you would immediately condemn as that's as racist as against right there in I loved what Chris I'm sorry. Terry God, one of the Jaguars and he. tweeted yesterday. He Played Jake from Georgia and he said. This is showing everybody's truth side. Yeah, everybody's truce jet will. It is so every time I I click on something I see yet. Somebody else has either exposed themselves or gotten exposed because of this groundswell of breakthrough turning movement that we're all experiencing post murder. Of of George Floyd right so in the end. I'm looking around. The scope of there was the the Alan. Hinton, the the former coach of the sounders that bizarre tweet that he posted. He's there ambassador and now they're he. He was their their TV and radio. Okay right and he posted a bizarre tweet about I. Am not a racist and it was just so bad so wrong that he. He felt compelled to to show his feelings about this I used to be racist, but then I found that black players could help me win championships blah. Blah Blah and it's like he thought that was a good thing to say. It's not a good thing. Just say to admit publicly, so he got fired right I'm racist, but if you can help me weird, be willing to look past my hatred. Hatred towards you, but I would like I. said, and I saw takes state. His players I saw gymnast from Alabama that's. About, look I believe there are more drake drake bombs in the world than not yeah, you were to look at a lot of if you if you could be a fly on the wall here, a lot of private conversations. Everybody's Oh no I. Don't have a Rave I. don't see color I. don't see color, but they can show. They can show. We'll see what the suspect look like. He was about six foot, tall medium bill black allergy color. Yellow for me, is that? Jake. Bra. You can't just issue a statement. Yup and faith, okay, yeah, I don't really feel that way. Bra actually you do because this is. In what a lot of times when we speak, and there have been baseball players that have been other players that tweeted things that when they were thirteen fourteen years of eight, we chalk it up is being young. Twenty, nineteen. Twenty year fourteen year old, he twelve year old, tweeted high school, even college junior. And this is what he said. This is what he believes so. Yeah. He'd been taught that. Yeah, I, mean I thought the constitution with applicable to everybody. Not You get something based because you think you should be entitled to something because you're white. Best Textbook, example of what racism meals and Jake frahm just laid out there and the female I. Don't like I skip I. Don't know if she was the girlfriend, the ex girlfriend or whatever he was she. Until she took the blanket off him and let everybody sees. She did what he was what he is. And then she went on the way, and then we had this development in Sacramento Grant Napier's been like the legendary voice of the king, the Eighth Nineteen eighty-eight is their play by play. Announcer also did talk radio in Sacramento with Doug Christie former king player as you know. And, demarcus cousins, it felt to me like he cast align into the water. Yes, hoping to catch maybe a racist. In real him and he tweeted at Grant Napier. Black lives matter and he took the bait right, and he said all lives matter and boom he got fired right and I think Damarcus knew what might come back because he said predictable I can't remember what it was. Right and then Matt. Barnes tweeted that we knew he was that. In Chris Webber, yes, also said I've had a lot of conversation with the organization about this gentleman about some of the things he said in his demeanor, his behavior. Yeah, so it wasn't like a demarcus would just skipping I. Oh. I get a lot to race baiting nothing, but they showed biting today. You know if you go to a good fish. They buy you don't. You don't just keep keep pulling. Andre Miller tweeted. All lives matter quote. Unquote is the go-to response from racist individuals when they're asked about black lives. Okay Bingo right so now that's happening. That's never really happened before to me. And all of a sudden everybody's caught up in yeah I need to express myself well. Are you going to express your true self if There's a lot of people right. When Drake from things happen I think a lot of people being going back. Can you raise that text message going back scrubbing? There are G and twitter account. They're going back like I need to I need to get this because. This not stupid I believe this is the beginning because if you want to make this thing, right, you going to have to weed out the behavior you are, and you gotta give me the. No, I. Mean I need to know. There's a reason why we get checked report because they're trying to figure out okay. Who legit and WHO's not well? I think the know I. Can deal with this long as I know I'm cool with you see. That's the difference between the South in the north getting in the south. Probably who especially when I was growing up? Yeah, basically the and keep it moving like we don't mess with you, so let's keep it there, but in the north edge you. Know people just hide it better. That's all it is is all over all fifty states so this state is more than this state is less than that. Some people just got better Heidi when we first got to know each other for years ago, you would say red state blue state, and I'd say hey. Many of the Blue States I've lived in the racism I felt was just as strong as in the deep south, but it is hidden. It is more closeted and you have to look harder for, but it will show itself if you look hard. You're eating that look no. Oh okay, let's see. More. That's a really good point, guys. The potential of Kevin Durant. Making a comeback is still being talked about according to Fox. Bet the nets odds improved from one hundred one in March when the season stop. Prematurely, but then we're now at fifty to one with the finals. You know going to be played in. October, so we got some time Shannon. Can you see Katie playing? Just, don't see him playing a know. He had surgery on that Achilles. On June, twelve of twenty nineteen, and so we're coming up on a year, but skip. The season is about to be condensed, and you're going to be asking a lot all a lot of a guy 'cause. I don't believe they're gonNA. Get the normal risks that they would get skip if they were playing during the season, so you got. Got These eight games. There's going to have to be played in the very short amount of time, and then you're gonNA, have to start the season and remember if I'm not mistaken. They're gonNA. Start the following season on December on December. Birds, so you end in October twelve, and you're going to start the upcoming seasonal on December first, which means you're gonNA have to have a training camp. Was something skip? Think. That's asking an awful lot. I know Kerry had a shoulder surgery in March and is GONNA to be a four-month recovering, so that would put him around July but I just don't see. I don't see Kevin. Durant, coming back and risking I think the risk is too great, versus what the reward would be so i. don't see him play. This kept so is it possible there you? Let ideas, heard Louis Shannon Sharpe. Poo Poo the possibilities of the best player on the planet, coming back all the sudden as we restart the NBA season and taking over the postseason. No it's. Is it possible no is not if possible that he could come back. Yes, the question was not whether it possible. Do I. See him, but I said no, and the reason why I don't think he was going to come back. That's IT I am not privy to K D's medicals, but. All, I know is by the time they actually play a game around August the first. It will have been a year and almost two months since he had surgery. Not since he suffered the Achilles tear since he had surgery a year and two months. That is long enough to heal that injury. Okay, if if he has been playing a little bit of sort of pick up basketball if he has been going through high speed drills and the Achilles is responding just fine, which it well might be responding just fine, because they are so good with that surgery now that it can be like a ten month recovery, so if you give it twelve months fourteen months now up to fourteen all the sudden, saying why not he may say why not I watch Kevin the other day on little, Wayne's new radio show. And his quote was I'll be back when it's time. He said I know. Everybody wants to know a lot. Emotions are running high, but he said I'll be back when it's time well. Could it be time on August? I think you'll be. We're I think he would on the side of caution. Because last time he thought it was time, and he let people getting his ear and tell him to come back Kevin. We can do this. We can't do this without you. We need you. He let his teammates gas. He led his coach gas him up and look what he got him skilled. Okay, do you WanNa miss effectively two years about? Two years. Bailey you know. Two years. So. Let's do the hypothetical. What if he comes back? And what if five months after arthroscopic shoulder surgery, kyri comes back because they're very close. We know they're they're item. They went together to the nets. So if Kevin says in a what I feel like playing, I'm ready to play. I'm a thousand percent. You don't think Kyrie would say okay. Let's do this. What if they both come back to a team that is now thirty and twenty, four and thirty four. Those games were played without Kyri or Kevin, so career only played twenty games, but he averaged twenty seven a game. That's a career high for what it's worth. The average five rebounds that was also a career high. He's playing at a high level. Yeah, even though he tends the as often does to throw even the nets teammates under the bus. But. Let's talk about those teammates, shall we? There were seven nets. Ten point game seven in double figures. That's not counting Kevin Durant Spencer dinwiddie average, twenty, one and seven assists both highs. That's pretty good, right? He's an. He's a nice player. And Kessler Vert, make say came out of nowhere, but all of a sudden. We got some splash games going from him right. He's ever career I eighteen, but lately he scored thirty, four Washington and they scored fifty one at Boston in a big win for the nets. Can score the basketball. Yeah, you better believe it. Joe Hairs. Can he shoot? Yeah, we know it Ju-. We saw him winner three point contents. He's averaging career high fourteen shooting forty one percent from three that that's pretty good. Do they have any interior firepower? Yeah, they do. Jared Allen's pretty good. He's averaging ten rebounds a game career-high. The Andre Jordan. He's still got some game left. He's averaging ten rebounds a game, so you have to double digit ten rebounders and. They can both protect. I just gave you a pretty good basketball team. If you add Kyri Irving and Kevin Durant to that team just is it pot shirts possible? It's very powerful goes to the bed. Well I. that's a good problem died. Mix and match if the game coming fast and furious, you can limit Kevin's minutes to fifteen, seventeen, twenty nine I think the thing is they're integrating all those pieces. And we saw when you got guys that are anxious. I mean look at Jaylen Brown. Would he come looking Jason Tatum become? Was They removed a wreath? Okay, you notice cares. Burton Spencer Dinwiddie is doing a lot of this without on court without K. deal recording. Okay, you bring Katie you bring cavalry back. You got to integrate those guys playing together and and you gotTA. Get other guys that can go along with them knowing they got to take less of a role. Now let's keep. Doing my thing by get big day you. Try to get a winnable Max contracts and he'll. Get the every, if I'm averaging twenty one dollars, I started average and thirteen. I'm eighteen all of a sudden. I'm team now. They're gonNA. Pay Me, so you're already posing some dissension in the Netanyahu. Now. All of a sudden if you can add two of the top ten players to a decent team already. And I'm going to remind you we're talking about the. Conference the Cakewalk Conference that used to belong to Lebron James. CAKEWALKS Yawn is the reason why John Doing what he's doing it because. Maybe that, would you so let's do it. What if so right now? The Nets are sitting in the seven seed, but they're only half game ahead of the Orlando Magic the AC right? Okay, let's say they get off to a little rusty. You know out of Sync Star and they wind up the nets do as the eighth seed with Kevin Durant and Kyrie trying to figure it out, and all of a sudden guess who they play in round one got. Here, we would go. What if they suddenly? What if the light bulbs all went on at the same time and they said Oh. We just figured this out of your honest weeper. Well what if K. D.? Turns back into the MVP of the NBA finals. WHAT IF HE TURNS BACK INTO THAT GUY? Look? What was he? He won back in GP's PS right in Lebron's face in Lebron's house in game threes and the last year was he did it not look like he was on his way to maybe winning a third straight MVP turning all series around before the Achilles snapped. Right while you do that. I'm doing it because it's the truth. What if he comes back and says hey, watch this. I mean I'm one hundred. Hundred Percent Healthy Watch. You make it seem like. Lebron was just like Fettuccini. I didn't live with show. You know what I'm saying I mean. He averaged a triple double in five games, and he was like or rebounds, averaging under know another triple double now. Michael Jordan plays great lose. Oh, my goodness. That was not Michael Jordan while he had no health. Lebron average a triple double lose within five gifts, well average, almost another triple double four rebounds store of a triple, double and Kevin Durant Moon right between the. Not He shot one shot right in his face right in his face. It was the shot of the game. Remember. We're going back three hours with a shot the shot in front of Katie's face. From the bath guideline now. How about that I wish brought? It just taken the there you go about that. What about Kyle Korver making the shot? Yeah, why would you pick cow over? who'd never take an shallow line? Six shoot of all time. That's regular smart. Regular all fees. You know what this is going to be fascinating because. Kevin Durant is clearly still the best player starring him to come back in just up staged Lebron. Lebron just won the MVP. Well, I'll give you. Pull a Willis. Reed. He go, Kobe. Playoff. Eight LIMP AND He's going to be one hundred we'll regis came out as just a show of force right he just. It was ceremonial. He just came out and limped onto the court, and they said wait to go willis and then his teammates took the game. For the way you'd have thought really a a trooper W. What did he? If he's going, he's going to maybe to Katie's going to score thirty two AH game. My go go go news all the sudden. This team could be the the out of the box favorite to win the east. That's why the odds have cut in half because. All the betting sites are all the casinos. They're all like. Wait a second was. Them in have when I take it down ten to one. Why not? Well as we get closer, it's going to plunge. That will happen if if it starts to leak out, remember the Asian for. Kevin said from the start. There's no way but Kevin left the door slightly open on Lil Wayne's radio show and to me if I just look at the facts of almost fourteen months since the surgery that would indicate to me that yeah, and obviously he's making a lot of money and I'm sure the nets would love to see him if he's a thousand percent ready. Why not ran? A one year investment having arranged for the long haul, so he got plenty of times. Get better. Look King play not play. That doesn't change agenda. We don't let anybody else that are gender. Wouldn't it be something if if Lebron somehow stole the West I don't know? If he stole the. owner. Kevin won the East and all sudden we had Lebron versus Katie in the finals again sort of number one for so to know more. The would some house ill the with him. Well, it's the clippers who should be the number one seed. They're clearly the best team best. Why don't have the best record well? We played the same thing because remember. There are two wings, and their two stars did not get to play much together. It's only been what fifteen games they don't go be a lot of McNamara. Come in Nevada. Real close yeah. We'll see. We'll creaky knees. Do we will see? Gets to the restroom commerce finals I'd you're going to be in some trouble? Unless his knees creek if his knees. I don't know you'll get. Heads in here. No matter. My. Gal, how is Lebron now forty two? Yeah. They'll must be forty-three by now's FRY trading stage he's. Twenty five. Right Eighteenth Year player. Eighteen. Sixteen. Arcane Levin Boy Katie. Katie is fresh. He is rested Yoko. The NBA is back finally here. We can talk about it and. So much to look forward to July thirty first I don't be ready all right. Good stuff, guys. Tiger Woods tweeted out a statement a few days ago about George Floyd and the protests tiger said his heart goes out to everyone hurting met. He has the utmost respect for law enforcement. Saying that education is the best path forward for Change Shannon. You said briefly on yesterday's show that. You had a little bit of a problem with what tiger had to say his statement. Could you please elaborate for us? My heart goes out to join fluid one and all of us were hurting right now. Always had the utmost respect for our law enforcement. You can count that. So just floored. You don't miss anything else about what's happening in America. What caused this ground? You think it was just George Floyd. And then in the same. Paragraph later. You have used the brace for the people that are doing this. By the way they train so diligent. Understand how when and where to use force okay? So they just started training on how to use where do sports, but they've been implying that horse with impunity on the heads of black men and women says they came to be. And tackle you did this. You could count this. You could account this. What is awful? Awful. This this is not. Any, worth the paper. I think about Tiger Woo-. Okay, because he talked about how he wanted to win. The masters I went back and saw. Key wanted to win the masters because they wouldn't let blacks play on the golf court, nine, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety one, and then all of a sudden he wins. Cobbler nation. Now. Talk about how he couldn't play some of these prestigious courses in California. Because they will let me play because I was combination, name is another who black all of a sudden he become tiger tiger that we know he's got a little money pocket free four five hundred million pocket now he called the nation. He's really never identified, but guess what when you went through what you went through. Guess who was there to support you? What the combination it was! The black people that do up when everybody shunned you. Will You WOULDA joke? Check your. Check. Your time line at what was being said about your. What you do, you release a statement talking about that. Johar go George Floyd. What about Trayvon Martin? What about does God? What am I in Gardner? At Jefferson Brianna Taylor Sandra playing on and on, and on so this the only time your heart goes out, and then you got praise, but oh, they trays diligent. With you need to miss me. I can give that was nothing education scale. They got again an education. So I need to educate a man or woman to say you know what you're not better than me because you're white. You should all you gotTa do skip if treat me just like you would treat somebody that look like I need to educate you on that. For Four Hundred Years I mean. Come O tiger. You can do better than this. Michael who basically shied away from a lot of political issue has but what did he say? He was very specific. Aren't these generality that you did? And then you turn around and half praise I would prefer you. Keep your mind or keep European till you fail. That was nothing that was that was the week. But this tiger. He don't WanNa get involved because you know you know why people by Golf Club and Nike Golf Equipment, and you know they play on the golf course, so I don't want. Offend anybody, but I tell you what they did do when they had that book shot when he got caught with appeals and. They didn't list combination baby African african-american on that day. Yep, So Shannon shot I'm GonNa ask you the same question. I asked yesterday about drew brees. What else did you expect? From Tiger Woods. Still even might scabby but Mike. King. He, did you're right Michael Jordan? You're talking about. So to me after you brought this up, I had just sort of it had gone in one nine out the other, because that's just tiger to me, that's vintage classic rock, predictable tiger, so I went back and studied what he wrote and then I was like. Really. So to me from my perspective on this side of the desk. This reads like cliche ridden. White, Talk. Right, yes. Where did Tiger Woods grow up? Well. He grew up in southern California, but he grew up in the white world because he was a dynamic golfer at like age three, he was on national TV. At Age three. Yeah, so in bath incredible hit on somebody else's show with Johnny Carson I Mike Doug Yeah. and. I. Don't know how much money is. Father had is a military veteran, but. Tiger got to two or this country on that amateur junior circuit that you have to, it's the latter you have to climb to become the kind of professional golfer that the white players become. You have to go out and play. The big big is best fields in the junior tournaments all over this country. It's why to this day. We still have no other black stars. In Golf. I thought nine, hundred ninety seven wants. Tiger knocked the gates down at Augusta National. The last bastion I thought will twenty years from now. We're now. We're up to twenty three years from now. I thought twenty years from that date. We would have I know half the field would be black. Stars seriously guess how many black stars we haven't golf right now. How `Bout! None None Herald Varner had a couple of moments, but we don't have. There's not been anything remotely like tiger. Woods expensive. It's too expensive just. Grief fee everything did travel. have to play the premier competition all over the country in the biggest junior. Turn Right. Tiger did that right, but he grew up. He was the only black player. Boy To go more power to. You did have to overcome sometimes when they go to courses. Even the military courses people be looking side where you're going to play this. Yes, we're GONNA play and he could play, so he could back it up, but he grew up in a white world. Right his whole life, so so he breaks through in one, thousand, nine, hundred seven. He immediately does Oprah's show. And what did he say quote unquote I? Resent being called black. You do. Combination. It's a combination of all the. Caucasian and Asian, and all the right okay, and I know our friend Rob Parker as soon as he heard that he's told us many times. They're on the show. I'm out. He thought one thousand, nine, hundred seventy interrupted his honeymoon. Watch, yes, he riveted. As we all were I. Don't think I've ever seen anything like nine hundred and ninety seven. It was stunning because he just buried the whole field in his first shot. At Augusta as a professional, he just wiped out the whole field, and and it looked like that's it and both jacket Arnold Arnold. Palmer Jack Nicklaus said Oh. He's going to have a closet full of green jacket. And yet he goes on. Oprah is soon after within the next month I resent being called black, do really. Okay well, we were embracing. Your race right, but no, you resent being called black, and from that point we swing. You're right. The black community stayed behind him. Through. Thick and a whole lot of thin that period right? Then we get all the way to the incident. You talked about two thousand seventeen. He winds up. This is in May of two thousand seventeen in Jupiter Florida. He winds up behind the wheel of his car. Incoherent stopped at a left turn signal with his blinker on just stopped and kind of half asleep behind the wheel, and he gets rolled up on by some police. And you tell me, is that not the worst case scenario for a black man in America? Yes, absolutely and yet it's tiger woods, so they did have to take him down in booking because that's Dui. That has written all over it, and so they found out in the system were sleep, drugs and painkillers off his baxter right. But he was treated very nicely, and then he was booked, and then he escorted home well. He got treatment that I don't know if many black men in this country are black women. Get no in that circumstance. I've found that highly painfully ironic right and yet in the end we look at the statement in. Its vintage Tigar because we've always said. He was Jordan esque. He always distanced himself from taking any stance. Public standards on any social justice issue or black community issue right? He's arms. Link Right. So I was a little surprised. T said anything. Yes, but you would say better left unsaid yes. Yes, absolutely skipping the thing is, it's like the. Skip, here's the thing. If the police officer takes bet uniform. He's no longer police. He's no longer subject to having his life taken. But what are they going to take off his black skin? See I get to be blind twenty four hours a day seven days a week, three, sixty five. He worked eight twelve hours shelves to be a police officer. See I. Don't have that luxury to take off anything and they'll have to worry about having company to a confrontation. He does not I do. I'm black. I'm exact I'm prime shooter. Brothers size six to black youth forty I agree they nobody no. Going to try to go no. They GONNA try to. This right now you're at least as the brothers now they they look at me. Like oh! He did record. He's six foot two powerful. There's so many things you do it. So. You do this. You're going to have praised. What we're talking about. Did you talk? What they're, try what this movement is about is that we won't justice. We want the police to treat us just like they do I. Kinda and when they come upon their. That's what we want. We want people to understand that to see us as equal. And you come up with this. That would all you hear that that that's the you after you took time skipped. Michael came out that thanks wrong swaying. Down out of it. Michael said I'm tired of getting out of. that. He said he's feeling pain. Title. Come up here with this week's sauce. You waste your time educated man from Harvard. Stanford, excuse me in this way you come with tiger. You ought to be ashamed that we can make our points wrote tiger without burning the neighborhoods that we live in. Where do we want which which we which we yeah? Nobody, you ain't got to worry about I guess you ain't gotta worry, but you ain't got to worry about. The police did okay. You know mad target. Tiger does not get. A lot of what you know. His Dad was a military man. What he's fought for Vietnam and he should understand the although his dad fault. Guess what a lot of times especially skip they fall. Guess what when they came back. Did it back on the bus. No, you can't come in here and eat. So the the freedom that we're fighting for, they didn't get to enjoy. Tiger. You do realize that all we're asking. We're not asking for favors. We're asking. What on a piece of paper said we could have. That's it makes me like where things get. Sometimes people get getting confused. They feel like if we ask for something, you're GonNa, take something from them now. We're not trying to take your freedom with after you that we give them that. We get what UK that's it. Though people have confused it. What a we give you this! We lose that, don't you don't? We just won't what we need. We've been promised on a piece of paper would've all created equal well a all white middle created, and that would you be a? Kid or they did all white milligram equal all the I just need to know because you've been lying to for four hundred years. You have yet to treat is equal. Oh, you need come, we educate. Look okay, so I ask you. Did you really expect tiger woods suddenly get woke by the murder of George Floyd. What you thought would happen scheme. Outgoing ALQADI can lie to us, and could he lot pretend like he cared about an issue that affect, although he does not identify as black that affects the black community at an alarming rate, men and women could eke retain like he cares kill. You when you were growing up, I don't know if you went to your girlfriend. How even the food tastes didn't taste good. You pretend like me. Audit good such as This is Berry Berry good as it actually was. Like Oh, this is a boo. diggity right here, but that's okay like. Home, Bra. I guess husking. Bre Bre that was asking to work. Yes, okay. I'm sorry that I should I shouldn't have expected from you. I'm sorry typed. Hall of fame coach Tony Dungy weighed in on drew brees comments yesterday Dungy said that breeze can't be afraid to say that in that likewise, people can't be afraid to speak out against it Dungy said this would lead conversations. We can begin to learn from each other and Sea Change Shannon. Does he have a point? Let me say Tony. Dungy is good man twenty dollars a great. He's a man of faith. He's a man of conviction and he's a damn very good great man. But Tony has to forgiving scale. We've taken the high road for four hundred years. It wouldn't have gotten. And that's what Tony Does Tony. You gotTA understand. You know maybe maybe he didn't say like. He wanted to scale and see what we what I've seen. The NFL does is that where they player or owner or coach? Says something, one, eight, hundred, two, thousand, nine hundred, and he's the crisis manager because he's so good in our community. That told balcony, and Tony says okay. It's okay. Come on Tony. You can't. GonNa read this thing I it out, you remember Lebron James He tweeted. We've been getting that Jewish money. Everything is kosher that twenty-one savage song. He was killed. I mean he thought it was a compliment to the you know. The people think are obviously that Jewish community have a lot of money, so he thought that was a compliment. He got real a white person. Come to us. And what we do I. Don't know that not one I heard okay I'll have. Some Jewish people did, but go ahead. Remember went. Owner the Houston Texans and the prisoner, the as the running, the prisoners of the prison is really. The prisoners were ready to silom. The inmates are running this. Right isn't cliche. Who tried who they get crisis management? Tony Dungy. Either good man, he got a great heart. I know Mr McNair for all these years that that's not what you mean. Come to find out. There are a lot of players that say behind the scenes. The says things similar to what he said public. Tony so at least we just like make sure Tony. If they got skip, Guy could be ninety nine point five percent bad in Tony's going to find that point five percents. That's good and latch onto that. And bless his heart, but at some point in time man this this notion that drew brees know. A guy that says guarded as he is about his image, and what comes out of his mouth, because he knows he's lead a Franchisee, think quarterback, and they feel they work on the immigrant been working on these images for a long long time, and they've had a Lotta practice at it. And to like well, you know. You gotTA. Know Snow I'm not saying that drew. Brees does not deserve forgiveness, but can. We just automatically give somebody in ten hours. Can we let let them earn that forgiveness kind of kind of work towards it? Okay, yeah, we. Come home. Because we don't get that. Just want somebody to trumpet for us. Like Tony Tony Dungy Willing to trumpet for the community. That's. So. Because, you mentioned Tony. Dungy is a man of faith. Allow me briefly to go biblical on you so. Most people understand that the old testament was eye for an eye and tooth for two, and then here comes Jesus in the New Testament, and it's about turn the other cheek in Tony's mostly about turning the other cheek. But I'm going to remind everyone. Luke Chapter Twelve Verse Fifty Three is one of the scariest scriptures to me, and I would like to consider myself a man of faith. One of the most scary scriptures in the Bible is twelve fifty three of Luke. What does it say Mr Shar Jesus is warning everyone. If you're going to follow me and follow, teachings is going to get dangerous out. There is going to get ugly I'm going to turn fathers against sons and mothers against daughters, because you're going to have to choose to follow me and the fathers and mothers might not like it. It was a scary time in which all those disciples into losing their lives, just the way. Jesus was crucified so again not to Biblical, but I want you understand that's what it was taking. They were having to risk their lives to say this is the way this is the new way. This time that we're in right now could be a very special turning-point time in the history of this country, because everyone seemed so receptive because of that vial video that neon that neck, right all the sudden harsh world, open eyes were open. Minds might might be kind of opened to wait. What is going on here? And the white community at least I feel like majority, maybe just a small majority of the white community. Is taking this much harder than it took trayvon Martin. Eric Garner Brown or anybody else. This got the white community, not everybody, but especially the white youth. There's a whole generation they are out there, demonstrating and marching, and protesting with their black brothers and sisters I believe it straight from the young white people's hearts. It's not just the cool thing to do is is the thing to do right so tony? Dungy is about to ration- right the Motte. See it moderately the this. This is a time of condemnation to me so I'm good. If you want to. Condemn drew brees I'm good with it because it needs to get condemned needs to hurt in these distinct, it needs to be a deep open wound. That doesn't close overnight. We forgive and forget right away to go through we got. You're a really a good man, and you've given millions priority and you're. You're good now, right? We get it. In the end. Tony says do can't be afraid to say what He. Well afraid I, I don't know so. You're encouraging the racist just to to to go ahead and blurt their heart. They're racist. Heart exactly and then. We can't be afraid over here on this side if you want to call it the black community side or The other side of this, it can be a lot of the new white community, too, but we can't be afraid on this side then to say. Oh, no drew. You're all right. Let's have discourse. Let's have communication side to side. I'm not sure it's that time we've tried that for years and years and years, and it got you nowhere because it was just a lot of. Words a lot of lip service. which got you nowhere? It sounded good today and tomorrow. It was forgotten. For me skip. Is there okay we've turned the other cheek, two hundred and fifty years of slavery, one Hundred Years of apartheid in Jim Crow. We've turned up a cheap. How about you stop slapping me and my damn faith that I won't have to turn my cheap. Why do I gotTa keep turning why You keep pushing? Can you let me Tony both your? Bloody bloody. My have been from turning quantum attains match, but we gotta keep turning the other cheek. Turn the other cheek. That's the problem we turn is going to be okay that you know he forgiveness. Forgive him. You heard what he said. He said he was sorry. And that's a black people by nature. We're very forgiving. 'cause we will allow them to go on for so long. We Beg Berry Forgive I agree and I think that's Tony's. ENDED UP, observers like forgive me. What. I'm sorry I mean at some point in time. I gotTA. Stop giving you because you keep doing. And you take my kindness for weakness, and that's what they've done. They've taken kind of the weakness. They'll just turn the other cheek. They'll just go to church and pray and Lord Everything GonNa? Be Okay now, hell! No, they choice to the was telling them. I'm tired of this. Forgiveness and all that just stopped doing it. You don't have to be a hard, but you don't have to be a roadscholar. You'll have to go to mit skill to know. You shouldn't treat people the way we've been treated this education and it's going to take dialogue dialogue for what? I try to figure out for people that created everything of black didn't create eighty thanks. Everything that's been good in the world is being created by White, so we got to educate him. They the most educated people in all the world, but now they need to black people. They've been stepping all for four hundred years to educate them how to treat us. So you know what my favorite black protestors shirt is. Just that one word tired. Yes, that that says it all to me. It's not I'm tired. It's just tired. We are tired. And yet Tony then he continues and concludes that. This battle is not going to be won by demonstrating and throwing bricks through windows. Well, I, get the. We got past the throwing brick the windows we had an outpouring of that Saturday Sunday. Maybe a little Friday Saturday. Sunday and I told you on Monday. I'm not going to endorse rioting. And it felt like it had a positively to it because the frustration boiled over and spilled out Jeff in God bless all those small shopowners got burned to the ground and lost. Everything got looted. God, bless them all. I hurt for them, but but there was some Tharcisse to it for this country to just get it out right in then it subsided, and now we're back to just demonstrate what we are marching. We're protesting. Okay that part Tony is wrong you can. It's still happening last night. It happened all of this country. Demonstrate their a peaceful correct, but there's positive liberty and strengthen demonstrating I. Think what what are we now? We're eleven days since George Floyd. died the twenty fifth. Fourth, be a so. We brought thirteen where twelve days and now we have two more services coming up on I think it's Saturday and Monday. I believe in north, Carolina in Houston so we will have more demonstration so I think it's impactful. I think it's powerful to peacefully demonstrate and coach done right? Nothing's going to be resolved for bricks through windows and burning down buildings, but what the hell is going to be resolved through forgiveness. We've been forgiven for four hundred years. And so, what did they got coach? We've been forgiven. That's okay, we forgiving. We gotta get over slavery. We gotta get over Jim Crow. We gotta get being. Unemployed at a higher rate and buy healthcare economics. We've got to get over all that so I'm just saying the forgiveness. We've forgiven okay so tony. Forgiveness does not bring about change. Nothing power concedes nothing. So this Oh, we just forgive everything's GonNa, be okay, man, stop there. I hear you. Sorry Code, but I love you cold. We disagree. We have different points of view on this one. it makes sense and hearing. You say conversations are not nearly enough, but the discussions I think we've had on the show and I just WanNa. Say to both of you guys. The amount of people have reached out and just said you. Guys are having them I. don't agree with everything I don't have to, but I'm listening and I think for you guys. Skip and Shannon just being able to go far. Go deep in this. I really respected it. said he believes that. When it comes down to it, the cowboys will end up making Dak Prescott the highest paid quarterback in the League urban also said that not only does DAX. Deserve the money, but he also deserves back. PAY FOR PERFORMANCE ON A. Deal Shannon. Bree. Nellie, what's so funny. Oh you're. Although, but you know everybody wanted to show today. Remember when Mike came on the show at the Super Bowl. Who I if they? Get a discount. Cow! Do we do. That's it as good. You got all of a sudden that he deserved back. Pay which I've been telling you know. Doctor does not deserve back pain, but he damn. She'll doesn't deserve to give him any money either no haircuts. I'm GONNA let my hair grow out. Go me three, it's. Money Long but. That's what he won't, and he deserves a skill that got his twenty seven years old. He's, has it? They start in four years. He's won two division titles. He's rookie of the year. So what does that word scale bayless? That were premium on you know. All of a sudden dock is the only quarterback that when it came normally what happens? quarterback signed he eggs. The next guy comes alone. You get a little more than ex and they've got a little more now Dan Prescott. Topped Five. He won the Super Bowl he home? quarterback gap based on whether or not they were the best player best quarterback in the League. No quarterbacks ever been paid like that, but now all we want to hold back to a standard that we've never held other quarterbacks. Dak Prescott I. Tell You what you won't be on that. Year started five million efficient leaked. That information is not gonNA. Call your own, ain't really. Going up and the longer you take, the more I won't. Well! Unfortunately, you're going down to the franchise tag, which is thirty one point four million for this next year and I think you're going down again to another franchise tag, which is about thirty seven million for another year out right now, so you'll average about thirty six ish, which is thirty five, which is the money that's on the table right now from Jerry Jones for five day. So. The man across me has taught me from the start on the show that two things can be true. You can get back pay, and you should also take the deal on the table because it represents a lot of backpacking because the deal on the table right now would immediately make you the highest paid quarterback in all pro football. Your annual average would be a little above. Above Russell Wilson's. You don't think Dak Prescott is better than Russell Wilson, but because of the timing because he's right place right time, it's time for him to be the top paid quarterback, and if he just signed that dotted line. Right here right now today this afternoon Jerry. Let's get together this afternoon. Let's have a party because I'm going to sign the deal on the table. Table for I think it's around thirty, six million, a year with one hundred and ten guaranteed and I'm talking about full on flat out guaranteed hundred ten million. It's an extremely fair deal. It's why Michael was saying to us at the Super, Bowl, on South Beach in Miami Dak. It's time to take the deal on the table. It has back pay included in it because yeah. Yeah! You have been underpaid. Here's here's what is made his first four years twice obviously made the pro bowl, and twice they won the division first year one point two million, because he was a fourth round draft choice, it felt nine, hundred, forty, one, thousand, six, hundred, thirty, thousand, but last year bounced back up to two point two, so he's made about five million dollars. Four years! Okay and all the sudden. You could leapfrog Russell. Wilson, you could evolved. Thirty six million a year from grand total of five for four years. That's that's pretty great money you do. Real rose on his third contract rotten boroughs with a third contract. Okay well. He had a contract before this one. That was bad in nineteen year. I got it okay. I didn't know I tell you what you do. You go ahead. And why in an offshore town you give me the money that wincing golf may therefore I four year and put that in offshore town, and then come give me that thirty five million. You might do a deal really so you want Dak Prescott to make more than Patrick mahomes about to make. The. Home to get to, but to to over automobile okay, and that would average maybe fifty a year he go about. We're probably going to an extent. A four year extension with two years old six foot about two. What's the math on that foudy? More than fifty year out. So he signed a four extension, he's still has the fourth year in the option. For years plus to six. You think you the to forty two. Okay? All right so I've often said that Dak Prescott is Brady. Ask So. Let's look at what Tom Brady did his first two years. He was a sixth round draft choice. He made two hundred thirty thousand then he made two hundred seventy out most of the first year second year in the League. League he wins the superbowl, so they immediately tear up his deal. They did him pretty solid three point nine next year, and then nine point one the next year, but after that he started taking hometown discount because he just wanted to keep winning super bowls, ain't it paid off because they got two nine one six and should have one eight. You know so lost. And so the point is the most he ever made in twenty years in new. England was last year twenty three million, so let's say Patrick. Mahomes gets around fifty million a year. that. That's you know that's more than twice as much as Tom Brady ever made in any year. As a new. England patriots winning six out of nine suitable. What you can eat chose that path so his average salary in New England over twenty years was eleven point eight million. It paid off. It paid huge dividends gravity. Play that D'Amato team. Okay. He paid him well. He paid Tom Brady more money than he actually played the Patriots. Okay well, it was a great by. Billions now. Right with only give him no discount, so Tom Brady should the gave him one. Tom Chose to do that, but that skill. You keep saying with Tom. Brady the this Tom Brady dead, but y'all got bill. Belichick y'all got Mr Cramp. Who Won't Metal Y'all got bill belichick, who knowing the hilly do it on both sides of the ball, but we got Mike McCarthy and he's got. He's a made man. He's got a super bowl ring code. Probably never had a massage even when he goes on vacation and your yoga would get them every week. By Guy Yeah no, either maybe May and my my car. I don't know so back to Dak Prescott. You continue to sweep under your little rug over there. Rug You continue to ignore the fact that Dak Prescott from the start hit the lottery in national TV. Endorsement Contracts National TV commercials. He had last year at least a dozen. Totaled but it was a whole lot of money that only the quarterback of America's team is going to make so you have to factor in that while he's made five million only in salary. I don't know what he's made fifty million. Or whatever he's made a lot of money over the last. If that was not any good. Let's just say that was five hundred quarterback had won. The division wasn't rookie of the year. Would he have those twelve endorsements? Okay? He got them because they broke right through. He and Zeke and they won the division. They did the right. Decision and he was the offensive rookie of the year and made the promos rookie. Will now you're a made man endorsement? Wise because you're golden. Up You'RE GONNA admit money. Within the next year, did he back that Europe no, no, he did not once. He Lost Zeke the next year. What happened in? Chicago now. He doesn't look very good without seeking where you said he was. The engine out this is this is a Dak Prescott team. So if he goes to measure question, he goes six antennas first year and he doesn't win rookie year endorsements coming. Nope, okay, then y like that, so he has something to do with that pay. That man pay did something to do with it, but then he didn't have anything to do with the next year, and then he came full circle the next year round, twenty eight and Again another division win. Anna playoff win. Thanks to Dakota. Rain Kodo. Iranians, yes. That I Well, then he came back last year, and he got off to a really hot start betting on himself, and then they pulled the rug out from owner. Jerry Jones at Gerry. April fools in September. We want a whole lot more money ripe, and then the last thirteen games betting on himself, he lost, he did not play nearly as well in two thousand, nine, hundred, as he did in twenty two. My I believe he played better, but the record was not indicative of. How will he actually played? So so what we through the forty nine hundred yards, twenty eight touchdowns, the deck through for? Nazi now at the time he was doing that you heaping praise on him, but hitting the Jason Garrett over his head and talked about the defense. Yeah, now. The Jason Kerr has gone, baby removed the head. Yup now tax. 'cause you don't want to get that money that holdout I cannot defend eight in a new defeated at all on defend no pro bowl last year, right? We're talking about a top ten quarterback. Who didn't make the pro bowl? You guys don't make the pro bowl. Who Books. It's I. Don't know. Does it feel right I. We're headed for a tag tag. You're it thirty one point your goodbye that man does. He gave his blood sweat and tears injured regard Yo Gaza war. He's talk in which I want to do to put a tag on it I believe DAX agent is overplaying their hand as what I believe I. Believe France. Go Todd Yup Yup. I believe that Shannon Sharpe once in my locker room and my salary cap decimated visit out. This should have no impact on your locker room goes back if DAX. SET BACK and watching everybody get paid. Peanuts in watching, getting twenty million dollars knee watch a low get twinning meal. He why J. Jay Jailers Mill, get paid. He Watch every office of land with Trevor's Frederick Retired Zack Martin Tyrez Bill. He watched all these guys. Get paid. They waited my turn my turn up. The so of Jerry gives him forty million which he wants a year. That would be twice as much as D. Law makes, and then laws can be look inside I attacked. Live up you better. Stand up or whatever play up. Hold Holdaway to beat it. I've been waiting for you to live up to that twenty million. You've been making. Wise Mama. Berg which Jerry Jones feet all the other birds mouth, open, dropping worms and about defeating. That cry, if nothing. Got, nothing. Less, a big golden worm the. On yet. So he won't appear to be out of the big old. biddle is when to skill who paid? Wreck rackets. That's what you want I'll say. Pay Us it's. What did Mike Say Might Finish pay to Abraham back-back Pam Yeah Yeah. Two things can be true. I've heard of before. I feel like Shannon says that. You were kind of wearing cowboys colors day interesting. Interesting. Bills Rookie quarterback Jake. FRAHM apologized for a text from twenty nineteen. That was released about guns. FRAHM said that they should be expensive, so that quote. Only elite white people can get them so Shannon. How much damage will this do to NFL career? Made it very difficult on himself. He's going into the locker room and he has this, not basically his credentials, but this is the main thing that guys are going to be talking about him about in talking to him about I think the thing that he does have in his favorite skip is that he's a backup, so he's not to be. He's not going to get the attention as if he was a starter. Drew Brees Star. That's one thing, and this is totally different, but what drew had working on his side is that drew had done so many things in the community and he's built up good. He had a nice relationship with the community so, but this young man does not have that he's coming out of nowhere and the question. Okay, are you? What are you sorry for? Are you sorry that your text message got out. Do you understand why what you said was wrong? Do you believe what you say was wrong? Because there's levels to this a lot of times, people say things in that knowing that okay, if they offend a certain, especially the African American community Oh, they'll forgive us very forgiving, so they'll forgive us the question that I wanNA know. What are you sorry about? Do you understand how what you said was so wrong and how what you said is the basis of why we ear while we are. Things are as they are in America. Do you understand that? And so for me? Is Guilt? Look I'm not saying person shouldn't be forgiving because I believe you can be free without forgiveness, but that doesn't mean I got forgive you. You say something today. That you apologize tomorrow that I got it forgive, you is I I'm going to have to forgive not willing to do that, but that doesn't mean you have to happen immediately. So I believe he has his work cut out for. Or. HIMSELF SKIP because. That is the. Definition of what racism meals the belief that I should be entitled to something that you should solely based on the color of my skin. So. What do we know about? Jake from from a football standpoint? He was pretty good at Georgia I never loved him I didn't think he should be a high paying, but most draft analyst thought he was a steel in the fifth round for the Buffalo Bill. Obviously they have a quarterback. They like I. Guess They they might even love Rochelle Right. They have to potential backups who've been around Matt Barkley and Davis Webb. Could. He beat out both of them to become the backup quarterback long-term for the bills. In case, Josh Allen went down. Could Jake from have gotten his opportunity and seized it and become starting caliber quarterback, maybe maybe in the national football league. Could he go elsewhere and become starter maybe? I think this is severely damaging to a fifth round. Pick just trying to make the football team, right? That's hard. Established right? You know what it felt like to be a seventh round the camp. With with like hundred rookies out there at camp thinking. Do I! Make my place on this team. It's gotta be on special and they brought back every better. Out The soup from the Super Bowl from the super bowl, and and yet you could play special teams and you did play Special Ed, I level right out of the box, because that's you said you made the football like right, yes. From cannot place. I don't think he can play special teams. Maybe he would volunteer now. where he can, he can be a holder well better. Saying as far as Actually contributing on kickoff coverage, I don't don't sell. We've been so the point is. This female acquaintance of his at the University of Georgia. Don't know if it's girlfriend or just friend. She betrayed him, but she thought it was a very necessary betrayal, because she said as she posted in Tex- conversations with her friend. That she thought this is her part in helping the cause, she's also been posting right left about how deeply moved? She is about the murder of George. Floyd, so she's very swept up. She's she's very emotionally invested. In this 'cause as a lot of white kids seem to be showing up for the protests in numbers and I. Keep telling you every time. I turn on a demonstration or a march. It feels like it's about fifty fifty black white, and they're also other callers in their chenault bad, but the point is. She is swept up in that white movement to the point that to do her part. She looked back at old text messages from a year ago. Don't know exactly it's. It's twenty nineteen I. Don't know how far back into the year. And pull that one up because it had caught her eye and stuck in her crong, so she said Yeah I'm going to betray him I'm GonNa. Put Him on the hot seat in Buffalo, but she said that I don't think you'll get fired over this. But I think you'll have to make a statement and she thought the. Compelling of her friend Jake from to make a statement which he had be really did it was an apology, and it was profuse that she thought that would do more good than harm. In wouldn't cost him his career. I don't think she really got the gravity of it could cost him his career. Yeah, he. Picks because I, what are we here? We call them cabinet skill. We don't like trash of that. We're talking about a distraction that had gone to the Super Bowl near had the most rushing yards for quarterback in NFL history in a playoff game. Remember what he did is Do not once, but twice in the regular season ended the poll season at Lambeau. If so and taking the team to the Super Bowl and with a throw away from possibly winning the Super Bowl, a controversial should have been passing. We don't. We don't want distraction. Yeah, what about round draft pick? The notion that Oh, he plays with black. How many pitches you think he does snap blacks guy I mean. They got smashed slapping and some shale on the button Nicole, harm and hugging them all the while feeling. He's better than them because it is. Okay, so that's what he's up. The do the Bills Buffalo really that distraction. Do they really want that? It's been cautioned. I could feel you the first round pick. You know, but built brown pig. Do we really want to have to deal with that? Going to be interesting to see if they cut him, which is possible? Then you know how this league operates the sheep, think of all if they cut him, can we risk saying? Oh, well right now I don't know. So. What's your gut feeling about the choice that she made to betray him an expose his racism. For the cause. Fair or foul, inbound outbound skill. I don't agree with Skelton. I think the thing is for me. Is that especially like? A. WAS DIFFERENT SKIP I'm threatening to harm somebody or something like that, but I feel if I send you something in private conversation that should remain between you and even though. She believes some good could come out of it and for me. I can't. I can't betray someone thrust like I. Just couldn't do it even though I know what he said or what she said. I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it, mom. That's just me. This is going to be tough for him. Because Matt Barkley's pretty good, so they'll. They'll just say hey. Josh Allen has proven to be pretty durable so far. And I think they might just say hey. We'll be fine with that or Davis Webb, for that matter. He's pretty good right and it's possible they would just cut bait here. Because the distraction or the outcry, the outrage against this young man would be too much for them to bear because he he's. He's not necessary to their winning right. It looks like they're poised to win. I think they'll win their division next year for the first time ever because the goat just went south. Yeah, but the point is do they need jake from. No No, and that's the thanksgiving. I, mean I. It's funny. Is that when you hear a lot of people? Talk in like when they have when the the blacks have confrontation with white. Well, what did you do to have? The cops come out well. Jake. Promise you the Memphis this. Is Eaten. You should have never need it but I still me I couldn't do it. I couldn't do I wouldn't have done it. So she also posted the the woman who posted this tweets texts from Jake from in the end one of her friends said Hey, do you realize he? He might get fire? You might get cut and she wrote back. How is that my fault? Like. It's his fault for for what he texted me. consequences. And that's and that's what we're asking. You know something now. That's what we we. Actually have consequences. You have to think anything that you do okay. What's the was? The was the consequences of my actions? Eleven years now. Have you think the only thing that he's ever said he's ever said that I'm. Mistake. That is might be the only gets out. But Oh. Yeah, he's. There's no one offs. What, without the only the only time I've ever said something racist, or that's the only time I've ever done. On. Racism is not a what offbeat. Focused rank the top fifty players regardless of position heading into the twenty twenty season Rams Ben's tackle air. Donald came in at the top of the list by a distance. Federal Mahomes, but all the way down at me four. You know that new. quarterback and you know I love them. I skipped feels. Do, you have a problem with this. What? Shannon Sharpe. This is pre posthumous. This is a looney. Tunes Lunacy Bill. This is Asinine Asa ten S, eleven and acid twelve in honor of the Goat Tom Brady now ranked twenty four th on this list. You'll be lower Aaron Donald. Is the best player in pro football by a distance quote unquote by a distance? So that means that right here right now. The rams wouldn't trade Aaron Donald for Patrick Mahomes Baloney, they. Would take a heartbeat. They'd say, please. We, do we will crawl all the way to Kansas City to pick him up and bring him back. You can have Era Golf Oh stop. Right here right now. If the rams said to Tampa Bay. We will give you Aaron Donald and Jared Goff for Tom Brady. What do you think Tampa Bay would say? They'd laugh. They'd say we're good. We're there, okay? No, they got the goat who wants to play for three more years and Tampa has reasonable facsimiles all across defensive front of Aaron. Donald who has never really caught my eye and I'm GonNa get to that in just a second, but they got sue Vida van, and they got Shaq Barrett. Who led the League in sacks on the outside and on the other side they got JP. They're good to go. They don't need Aaron because he's not that valuable. He does not play quarterback and speaking of the greatest quarterback ever. What was their capsule on Tom Brady they acknowledged you say he was in decline major drop. Blah Blah Blah as father time caught up. Blah Blah Blah no, they include in the capsule on number twenty four Tom Brady. The tape shows the root of almost all of his issues was the lack of receiver help in New England last year. That's not an issue in Tampa Bay Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah. Because here he comes out so he can play his way back into the top five. I think that's what they are saying. So now let's look at players ranked above the goat. Let's go all the way up to number four Quinn Nelson. Back de data. You keep plays guard. Offense they've lar- Quinton Nelson. So you're telling me right here right now. That Quinton Nelson it off. Guard is more valuable than the goat down at twenty four stop at sees adopted. Just lunacy a told you this two weeks ago is not about value. They said the best player. The Best Player. Positions. Are you say he's just that much better at his position than Tom? Yes. That's ridiculous. Rank players on value like that. You can't confine them just to their position. They all fit into the whole of eleven. I'm sorry, so look at Christian McCaffrey I love. Football They listen if you would give right now. The Carolina Panthers Tom Brady employs the teddy bridgewater. They'd say yeah, yeah, we'll take him by nephew. How valuable he is your nephew! And then his former teammate at number twelve. Stefan, Gilmore, he is really good at he does, but boas is not more valuable than what the goat does. I'm sorry his twelve on this list. He will better Lash Guy Works Richard. Sherman is for. Show, she's stopping. He Fletcher Cox. I respect him Blah Blah. Blah Philadelphia Eagles Blah Blah. Blah, he's better at fifteen than the goat and then Jamal Adams. Jamal Adams at twenty. Yup and Cam Jordan. We talked about him earlier. He's a nice player, but he ain't no go, and then one one rung ahead number twenty three is Mitchell. Schwartz the right tackle of the Kansas City. Or? Os short-sea. Heck of a run through the playoffs, his grades were off the charts by positive focus. This is the goat we're talking about and. You only got great at one time great. Very well okay, I'll give you that and yet. He had his team in position to win. The two seat and have a week off shouldn't have been playing. Except his defense of head coach Bill Belichick defense gave up a seventy five yard, thirteen play drive to Ryan, Fitzpatrick to blow the two seed. And nobody talks about it, because bill bill shakes the greatest coach ever, and he gets assets. Do they blew the two seed? They didn't blow the opportunity not to make the playoffs. Yeah, they still made the playoffs and Tom Brady later me in January, not April Easter. He laid an egg in January. Human made it the last time you saw Tom Brady and the Patriots uniform below parable. Tell tall to. That what he realized made, it shifted he laying eggs. In every big game Aaron Donald. He looks like he's just laying eggs in the middle of line because I can't find him. Would you believe he's played my cowboys four times in his career. Those qualifies Big Games. Because when you play America's team, the world is watching. How many sacks he has in four games against my cowboys. How about goose eggs laying goose eggs? How about that? He has also played four playoff games. Has Aaron Donald? WHO's the best player in pro football by a distance. Four playoff games. He is a grand total of a half. A half a sack, so there are eight big games for you any as a grand total of a half a sack. And by the way, Just for the record once upon a time I used to watch a guy named Lawrence Taylor, and all I had to do is just turn on my TV. And he leapt off my screen, right and left. You had to know nothing about football just to watch one LT game and you'd say there is there is there is. He was unsold awesome. Coming off the edge I could see it like that so i. Hear, you correctly so because Aaron Donald, is not Lawrence Taylor therefore he's. Being. Let's move to the interior of the line. Let's move to Reggie White. Every time I turned on a Reggie White Game. It would leap off my screen that there's that force in the middle of the line that two or three people cannot control. He was a disruptive force. Even someone from Mars could drop into my living room and watch pro football for the first time ever said that guy's really good that Reggie white dog land off Earth, because I adhd begin for that were okay I got him in number two on my list. Okay, know who I got number one MOJO boy. Okay This is by a distance. The mall. Okay, but I do believe you got Aaron Donald at twenty, five. Dollars. To. To how why what what will seriously every was that I have watched entire Aaron? Donald Games cowboys and platinum as I have watched entire games in which I say. Did did play today or was. I have to look at the play by play to look and make sure on participation. Did he participate? Nobody gives up. Tell me what. Donald reminds me he the combination of sap in Johnny ramble. I played against both of them. Came into league together around the went into the hall of fame here before I did so he the combination of them, great hand work og-, Wipe wipe off. Could Ripken love he? He does it all game changer. Dominate Dominant Donald Dominant. Really! I. Want to get you know. I have my home that one. I would take Donald, too, but I don't WanNa I. Don't WanNa you know. Get into that you. We nitpicking I would take hold because I believe he's the best player in football and I believe the distance between him, and the next best quarterback in football is the distance between him, and what Aaron Donald Lives and the defensive player in football, but my problem is. Is Aaron Rodgers not in the top fifty? That's job you know that I. Know that I don't know you know that. What if I've been telling you for four years in decline stats keep falling. Focuses we can't. Can't legitimately put him in the top fifteen when fixing four twenty six times four picks anywhere today, and if the championship game highs ranked higher when he didn't go, as far didn't have the touchdown to intercept rate your guy. Last year ranked eighteenth in the League. and. He ranked twenty third in the League in completion percent. Guess what your guy was behind my guy and qbr completion percentage. Your. Guy had are true number one in Devante Adams, and he had Jimmy, Graham and he had another little Aaron Name Jones who was the real in VP of his team. What I see still play for the year before I, remember the. Last year. He played every game in the doghouse. I haven't heard anybody say that. devante Adams should be in the hall of fame but I. Hear Somebody telling me that. Should be in the hall of Fame Heat Bath. He's the second best plow receiving history behind Jay. Right? That would you keep it? As soon as the season ended last year, Julian edleman had shoulder surgery. He played with cracked ribs, and he had a bum knee. He was a shell of himself at age thirty, three broken down did. Show Navy okay well. I just closed my case. Brady had nobody throw pro football focus ranked the patriots receivers as a group dead last dad, laugh skill so in other words. You're telling me. There's fifty other players in the NFL. That's on this list. That's better than. I'll buy that I'll give you that point, but I think it's telling you. What I've been trying to tell you last year was not about near Rogers. An opportunistic defense that kept taking the ball away from. Tampa Bay. In the. Way that we didn't pick up the pig the pig. Scoop is gone. You Mean New England knowingly. Yes, yeah, who? Patriots that until we ate gates once they ran into Lamar and company, it was game over for that defense down the stretch that deepens was horrendous liability. A lot of people have problems dealing with limbaugh noon. That does not change the fact and the Patriots deepest finished number one. It got exposed number one. Did they finish the Ryan? Fitzpatrick seventy five yards in thirteen plays, including the game winner at the Buzzer of five yard, pass to Sickie to lose the two dollars. What about what about what about Kansas? City cool has indicated the memorial? Yeah candidate got gotTa Talk Ten defense on WHO's y'all I don't know who? Yeah. Yeah, the number one. Well all I know is Tom Brady two years ago he. Mahomes House and beat him in overtime with three straight, third and ten. Home get the ball and we came to your house and took all the stuff that you took out our house. We took it back and win the Kansas City and won the Super Bowl. Well. If Bill, Bell, check it di-. Different conversation, you'll see why you why. Why do you do that is like when Tom Plays bad. It's always someone else's fault. Other than Tom Coach Belichick spot is the defense, but you don't get that defense credit. When they gave up the rams, only three points in the Super Bowl, you mentioned the deep. See those four passes. The Tommy gave up three point. You didn't mention coach shakes defense now all the sudden Yoga Liaoning his final game and the Patriots uniform. He later today. He had positioned to win the two seat, but you were in the playoffs. The three the you took bail I will bet you. That one year from today. I will bet you. Five cases of Diet Mountain dew that Tom. Brady is top ten on this list one year now back. got. It done love it done I've cases I'm GONNA. Win Diet. Do you move between the cowboy the? NBA Playoffs, the be done. Say, it feels good to hear you. Guys argue and debate in person and I like these baton. Focus does ranked all thirty two projected starting quarterback for the twenty twenty season. Dak Prescott came in eleventh overall, just two spots ahead of course winds at thirteen shannon, the agree hotlines. Are you here? No I don't agree When I believe wizard the better quarterback, but I believe that could be fake quarterback. That's how we do things. Feel, so you feel strongly both ways. Yeah, I feel I feel wizard the better quarterback especially after what he pulled off landing. You're taking a team to the playoffs with really no receipt, no receive, but not one receiver had at least five hundred receiving yards lane. Johnson missed the lion's share of the season of the season. especially I think the last four games in the playoff. Playoff game his best is all right tackle and for him to be able to do that. Throw for four thousand yards, not having receiver, and if he was born to receive that really began the season on the practice lot and for him to do that man. We remember what happened with that when they'd have a cooper writes gene remember. We need to have tyrant Seville right. Remember when he didn't have loud collins writes and what happened then they make the play. My Guy didn't have all that M may play offs. Like Jerry Jones negotiating against press. No, no, no. You're you're having a hard time with this? Because I'm here in both sides of mouths? Franco. got. Really. Well. You just told me why. He doesn't deserve top quarter the no, no, no, that's not what I. Did. You see what you did? You would not. Miss my work I. With is the better of the two quarterback, but should be the highest paid because he's signing his contract after West that's how they do it in a quarterback markets. So, help me out with this. If the Eagles are so convinced about the long term future of Carson Wentz, why did they draft another quarterback? In the second round of quarterback I told you all year will be a starting quarterback in the national football league. If there were so convinced that the guy, why would they give Zeke Elliott fifty million dollars guaranteed at the running back position what other running. What other quarterback has a fifty million dollar running back in his backfield? Well Jared Goff did have. Got I did right. Okay, but you're telling me Dak. Prescott deserves to be the top paid quarterback. So you're saying he's more valuable than Zeke right. Why but I've been trying to say that they weren't really well. The cowboys are really effective wins e gets the lie gets a lot of the carries, but because they fall behind so often they render Zeke null and Boeing because when you're down twenty one you down seventeen. Is Hard to run your way back until the bomb, but wait a second. They feature Zeke all last year. Do you realize he had the second? Most carries in the League on first down, and on first down his average per carry ranked eighteenth in the League. Do the math. They're trying to feed your the bell cow here, Bill Cal be the Bell Ring Your Bell, but You're going nowhere slowly skip. There's zero minus one minus two. There's no euro. There's no creativity. Just hand the ball to the guy. Right hand the ball to the guy. And then you fall behind, and you say well. vk. Getting fifteen cares eighteen care Zeke new twenty five twenty seven years game then get those numbers and see what you see what you yet. It's hard when you're in second and twelve every. Dow Twenty one like you would new hardware. You're down thirty one three like you, too. The packers is hard when you're down to the name. The saints and everybody else bayless. It's hard for me to put. Carson Wentz all the web at thirteenth on this list when he has not proved to be the number one quality of starting quarterback needs do rubble Dak Prescott is really durable. He's missed no starts, but. But he was banged up going to fill it out that a bum shoulder. Any play tried to play. He wasn't very good, but he tried. He went very in Carson. Wentz, had this this spirited out of nowhere underdog finished with nobody at receiver, and then right on cue. They're playing Seattle and a home playoff game, and he gets his belt speaking of Bell Cow. He gets his Bell Rung. He's out. Any completed one pass for three yards. That's all he's ever done in the postseason in his whole career four years, not one pass for three yards. Pretend like you did your debut cloudy hit demand the. Okay I thought you know what it was a low or high below low. It was a cheap shot I. Give you that, but you can't Trust Carson Wentz to stay upright. They've never been able to. And they said Jalen hurts. And you'll go. Guess what? My God can't stay upright and one vision you'll can up right and one to division. Yeah, and what and what? What did I tell you all along I ranked Dak that hint best quarterback in pro football, and that just got validated because one spot off I'm. More optimistic than pro football focus because they had him eleven I told you. I have him tenth. Bingo I know by guys eleven spots. How Your Guy who? The Guy The guy that we talked about he tweeted. That is really Carson Wentz. The TOMEI. That is a joke. I don't I'm not even sure. Carson Winston going to finish. The year is starting. To, make sure great, are you invalidating pro football is just in no I'm not. Dating Jalen I because if he gets his chances as I think you will, because they're gonNA have Lamar esque packages for him, he will shine every time he gets to throw or carried the football. Wait and see. He is a game changer at quarterback. Because we were talking about durable, you WanNa, talk about the ability to run through and round people I work regardless. whose red cars wins, he's ready. Oh. I didn't know I. Thought Big Red was. A little. he lacks leadership qualities that jalen hurts spills all over the field. Watch what happens. jalen hurts are gonNA. Take this team over that. Lock your ball for Jalen or fall in love with Walter to go do what he's been doing. Yellow is going to be the first time in a long time. They by the back. Follow up this division with another division. Win You a long time. But I think we've prime. I think it's just about that time. For us to follow up here, division title with this year division title. Dak Prescott. Tenth Best quarterback in football deserves momentarily to be the top paid quarterback and pro-football Dak today. You need to go sign that dotted line thirty visit. WE'VE VISIT That donated money to toward the call the Dang busy now. No, we're not signing. One, hundred and twenty, five million fully guarantee, hundred eighty million dollars over five years gotta deal so interesting guys. That is all the time we have. We will settle this another day. Thank you for joining us today. We're back. Monday same time nine thirty of can guys.

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 2 - Jarrett Payton (10-26-18)

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 2 - Jarrett Payton (10-26-18)

"It's all about me. Dan, patrick. There is more where that came from click back for new episodes all week long. This is firefighter Raphael. Poor yet for firehouse subs. Introducing the new firehouse pub stakes up with savory steak crispy fried onions and are rich Belgian beer cheese sauce on tap. For a limited time or yours at firehouse subs dot com today. Remember a portion of every sub you buy helps provide lifesaving equipment for first responders firehouse subs. Enjoy more subs. Save more lives. Limited time only plus tax participating locations. Firehouse subs. Don't even minimum one million dollars in two thousand eighteen firehouse subs public safety foundation by donating point one three percent. Every purchase broadcasting from the Mercedes men cake. Good cramps and never blames his tools. This is Dan Patrick tower. Two on his meet Friday, Dan, Medina, Dan, Patrick show coming up. We'll talk to Jared Payton son of sweetness. Walter Payton covers the Chicago Bears and his dad's nineteen Seventy-nine Porsche nine thirty turbo is going to be auctioned off. Live today on NBC. This is mecum. They do the car auctions. So we'll talk to Jerry Peyton will. Join us coming up here in a moment. Couple of the headlines. Texans have won five in a row they roll over the dolphins last night to Shawn Watson throws for five touchdowns. The Lakers have won two in a row rockets. Flirting with the timber wolves Jimmy Butler and have offered reportedly offered four first round draft. Picks college football weekend is sort of Clemson Florida state, Florida, Georgia, Iowa Penn State, Texas, Oklahoma state game three of the World Series. Coming up later on tonight. We'll check in with Bill plaschke's columnist for the LA times around the horn star about how important this game is and the decisions that it made prior to this. And what is the game plan going into game? Three coming up tonight in Los Angeles. Eight seven seven three DP show, Email address DP, Dan, Patrick dot com. Get your phone calls. Mclovin. The poll question. Who is most for real hanters forty percent Houston Texans. Thirty one percent last on our lists. The Redskins people not bind the Redskins. Well, the Redskins got the giants this weekend. I sell a funny tweet by Redskins writer people calling this a trap game. Every game is a trap game for the Redskins. Did you don't know what they're gonna do? Yeah. They're going to be a mystery the entire season. I just don't think you can do look at Washington and go, okay. I got this figured out. It was how many years ago today thirty four years ago today somebody made their NBA debut. Michael Jeffrey, Jordan made his NBA debut five for sixteen sixteen point seven assists, six rebounds. Yep. Overrated, he's going to be a bust. They had Quinton daily. Did they have Sydney green, Dave Corzine? And that was not a good team. Orlando Woolridge Woolridge was the star. He and Quinton daily. I liked Clinton daily. Couldn't daily was the score. And I think he was a little crazy at times. But they went against Washington. Jeff rule and Rick Mahorn Darren days that right? Yes. Mclovin to be fair. Lebron didn't make his debut thirty four he never debuted thirty four years ago. No, no. You didn't. I got our poll question here. We say good morning to our radio and TV partners direct TV the audience dumber. Channel two thirty nine. That's on direct TV, the NBC sports network and our three hundred thirty six radio Phileas around America. He's jared. Peyton son of sweetness and Wolters nineteen Seventy-nine Porsche nine thirty turbo. Auctioned off live today on NBC S N Jarrett. Good morning. How are you? I'm doing well, Dan, how you guys doing? I'll we're doing great. So who came up with the idea of auctioning off dad's Porsche? Well, it is something that I've been thinking about for a long time. It's something he left to me. And you know, he cared about this car so much, Dan. And I'm not a car guy. And when it comes down to it. I feel bad looking at it sometimes because I feel like I don't drive it enough. I work so much now covering, you know, stuff here in Chicago for WGN. It's it's so hard in any time that I have family time. I start my week. On sundays. I end on Thursdays Fridays. I'm home with my daughter, sometimes with my son when he gets home, we hang out. Friday's the only day that we have is a family on Saturday. So there's no time for me to drive it. And I keep looking at it going. What what do you want me to do? And I think right now, he's probably looking down on me saying you haven't sold their thing doing holding onto it. What other memorabilia, do you have your debt, which the coolest piece of memorabilia, the things that mean the most to me are the game worn jerseys and things that are priceless. You know, like the bag that my dad brought home the last day from Halas hall with all of this stuff. And it's got tape in there. It's got shoes the old kangaroo. Like, that's the stuff. That means the most to me, Dan. And that's stuff that I'll never ever give away. That's stuff. I want to be able to pass onto my son to have stuff. That's me as is priceless. This car. It's an investment when you look at it. And where I'm at right now as a father as a husband, it's not what I'm looking to invest money, and I've and I've invested money into it. So my goal is to have somebody out there that will truly truly love this car and also respect it and take care of it the same way that my dad would there's usually a reserve on cars like this that has to get to a certain price. Is there a reserve on this? There's no reserve, Dan. I was on. I was on WGN the other morning, and Gus and he works for me came up to me was asking me about what we were going to do. And I'm like, I don't know if we're gonna do a reserve I feel like when you put a reserve on that means you have a little bit of control, right? And I started thinking about it. The camera went live, and I just woke up and go, man. Breaking news. There's no reserve. Wow. This car. This car is going to be sold actually tomorrow afternoon. And it's a slot one thirty four so pretty cool. And once I said, there was no reserve you should've seen the emails that I was getting from all over the world famous. People have emailed me that are now in on the bidding. I wish I could tell you who they are. But I told them that. I would keep it quiet. But it's it's going to be pretty exciting. So look forward to seeing how the whole process plays out. Former teammates interested in buying this car. No. I haven't gotten me former teammate. Okay. There's people people. I just some people some actors and some famous people have. That's an Email. Yeah. So pretty cool. Some and I guess if you look a lot of big huge Walter Payton fan, so if you go out there and look at some famous actors that are hating Sanjay probably figure out who it is. I'm thinking Vince Vaughn is interested in this or Bill Murray. Nodding emails from those two guys. I can tell you that. Well, Bill Murray's not gonna Email you, but still wasn't Vince Vaughn what if what if Mitchell Trubisky says, I want the car. I can talk about a price, man. He's one of my favorites. He really is. He's one of my favorites. So we can figure out and and talk about a price. And I still remember when he was drafted, you know, by the bears, the one of the first thing when people asked him to one of his favorite players was he said, you know, he did a lot of studying on my dad, and I think that maybe transition for a lot of bears fans here in Chicago, pretty happy. So if I offered one hundred thousand dollars right now, do we then not do the auction on Saturday? You're gonna have to listen. I know I know what you make me stick deeper in those pockets, actually, what I wanted to do because I told Paul I wanted to do is actually just take the car and put it behind you just let you guys kind of keep it there could actually be behind you every single day. But I'd have to take it out and test drive it I have to do that. With all my cars though, Jared. Oh, you know, what side of Chicago will make it happen. I can drive it back from Chicago. Right. I guess. Yeah. This is going to be at six figures. It probably going to be in. You know, the provenance the fact that it was your how long did your your dad bought it new? Yeah. He bought it bought it new. And so it's his first sports cars last sports car. His that we still have in. You know, it was his aby. Wait, where's your Lambruschini, the rushing Lambert Lamborghini? Well, for some reason, I think that breaking down back in the day in the eighties and my tax, but there was super upset about that you had to go fill it up at O'Hare airport. So he was always like super upset. Nothing kinda went on for already and all that stuff. But this is the one Dan that state. This is the one that meant the most. And there's there's so many cool stories I still remember and my mom's probably gonna kill me for telling you this. I remember being at a skate park. And I was at a listening to a band, and I went outside this girl. It was when. I was like thirteen years old. She had me a cigarette, and she handed to me, and I had it in my hand. And I I wasn't. I didn't know what I was going to do with it. Because I didn't know what to do with it. And then as I was maybe about to go take a drag. I look over to my right and people were like cool car. And my dad is sitting in this Porsche looking at me, and I'll never forget throwing it down and getting in the car and him driving home going like a hundred and twenty miles per hour. I was so scared. My mom was having a Mary Kay party. With like sixty women at the house, and I came in my house crying bawling out that was like one of those memorable moments that I had with this car. So it means a lot, and I'm just hoping that somebody gets a chance to take care of the same way that he would Obama. Ooh. That actually would be a good one. I'm still trying to meet him. I never had a chance to meet him before. So I look forward to it. But yeah, any of those guys I would talk a price with you know, Ashton Kutcher. Ooh. He's the one that I'm searching for he was the first and foremost, he's the guy that I wanted to get in touch with just because it is relationships with like the feelings that he has about my dad, but I haven't got him. I saw I was gonna put on yesterday, but you know. It. It's a Chicago connection Jim Belushi. No, even if you guessed that, I can't all right? All right. And Michael, Jordan. It is not one of those guys know Joe Jordan's not I actually bought one at Jordan's cars back in the day. When I got the Tennessee titans. So it's one of the first purchases that I ever made way. What did you seven sixty BMW seven sixty of his a black one? I had no house. I had. Apartment. I got my first check with the Tennessee titans. I thought a car that I could have lived in that had a refrigerator in the back. It was it was it was unreal. Unbelievable caller. But you know, my life has changed now and everything now is family oriented, and it's I can't put two car seats in the back of my kids in my wife doesn't like driving in it. Then, you know, it's time to go. And I'm looking forward to seeing whoever gets this. And some of the pictures that come along with it. And just that feeling of my dad that's the presence at the car has. It's unbelievable. It's in great shape and only under ten thousand miles. So there's not a lot of miles on this car. Jared great to talk to you again. And hope the career is going well and good luck with the auction tomorrow. Thank you guys. Thanks for having me. That's Jared Payton. His dad, of course, boulder Payton, the auction will be it starts today. But the car will be auctioned off tomorrow on NBC CSM, and this is the mecum auction. You see those all the time. That's one of those where I would be terrible at one of these things. I would love to get you there. Oh, it would be so bad because they've invited me. And they they know that I I love cars old cars. But if I'm there somehow, I can I can you know, rationalize gotta have that fifty six Chevy and the energy in the room. And you're seeing it John's to Rome all shined up not good. I love watching those shows though bear Jackson is there a car at if I said, regardless of price, let's say you could afford it the one that you closure is it. That's the one I would break the Bank to two by. That means something from the sixties or seventies. Or is it just you know, when you see it. Yeah. I'm I'm I'm okay with it. You know, I wish I would have known about Pete Mira vich is Porsche Lenny it was going to auction. It was being sold in might have been on the internet. Ebay, and I saw it after the fact, and that would have been something pretty cool. Even though it wasn't, you know, a Porsche that I I like that model like getting a turbo they call them widow makers because you know, the turbo is, you know, they could get squirrelly on you. And it's a powerful car. And I think they're nickname was the Widowmaker, but a a nine thirty turbo seventy nine that's a great car to have. But I love the, you know, the early seventies Porsches apple you said you would bid one hundred thousand on Walter scar. Yeah. I have twenty seven dollars. Okay. So it's one hundred thousand in twenty seven dollars sounds good right there. Yeah. Yeah. But Oprah comes in and wants to buy Walter Payton's car, then I got no shot you get a car and you get a call for you call. Yeah. Yeah. The big oak comes in. And I got no shot there. I just. That's good. But if you're famous you don't want anybody that's like when people bid on artwork, they'll call in and have somebody bid for them. You can't show up where they go, you know, hand going against that guy. 'cause then you think well, he's got all this money. I can just Jack up the prices here. So you wanna keep it, quiet? You don't wanna let anybody know that you're interested in this. But. That'd be fun. A little bit of testosterone there. Once you start, you know, competing with somebody efforts being as competitive as you so easy just to raise your hand. Hold up that little thing they give you a little paddle. You don't even realize. Wait, what am I doing? You can't take it back at that point. I remember going to an auction that it was just furniture. It was like a antiques. It was the state sue, and I'm sitting there and I'd never done this before. So I'm with my wife, and she goes, you know, maybe we can see some things I said, okay, great first first item is just a runner. It's just a it's just a piece of carpet. Like, it's a rug to runner all of a sudden, I put the damn paddle, and my wife goes, we don't need that. And I go, I know I can't help myself. And I so I ended up buying this damn runner. And my we still have it 'cause my wife refuses to get rid of it because she knows that. That's a reminder of you do stupid things. Sometimes I'm holding up the. Paddle. I just I fell in love with holding up the damn paddle. I don't care what I was bitten on. Yep. I'll do it. Hey, we got a lamp, you know. But yup. Next thing. You know, then you you win. I don't want to win. I just want to bid. Yep. Long. Maybe well down the road whenever this show ends. We have a live on TV auction of all the stuff in this room, both rooms and just go step by step. Well, I don't know if I could do that. Yeah. You would four things go and keep you can't like your wife would never let you bring all this stuff home. I know. I know I I have to find like a warehouse. Something where I could just put all this stuff. I mean, it's there's it's the best man cave in the world and hoarders, aren't they don't have a really history of selling a bunch of snow. The whole idea is to collect as much as you possibly can. And anytime my wife says you got to get rid of some stuff. I always say and you wanted me to get rid of my fifteen hundred albums. Yeah. Like got three hundred dollars for fifteen hundred albums. That was not a good day. But I think she might be referencing your fourth. Lou Holtz doll. Yeah. I'll maybe that. But I got to Bob Knight dolls in two Lou Holtz dolls. But you know, I didn't spend a lot and people gave me a couple of those things. All right. We'll take a break. She got another meet Friday song coming up for you, Bill plash. Gi from the LA times will join us. We'll talk about not only you know, the Lakers last night. I guess there's no need to panic now because there was apparently need to panic after the first three games. But also talk about speaking of panic. No, the dodgers not the Lakers. I back after this eighteen after the hour, Dan Patrick show, whether you're competing training, or recovering under armor has created the best performing gear to make you better with two exciting new collections. Vanish and perpetual, under armor is ready to help you focus on performance and take your fitness game to the next level, the Vannes collection is engineered to be more breathable. So you feel lighter unless distracted it's made with a lightweight quick drying material that won't cling or chafe. And stretches without absorbing sweat. 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And you're able to make a difference on a team that doesn't have a lot of weapons Josh between. Cam Newton was a guy who came into the league on less talented team made an immediate impact. Now makes the Panthers contenders year in year out. Well, they do have ofensive firepower. Now, you know, he had a good tight end when he came in Steve Smith was unbelievable with Cam Newton that first year unbelievable. I don't know who else they had in the backfield was de ngelo Williams there Jonathan Stewart Stewart. Yeah. But yes, never really had consistently good weapon. No say Aaron Rodgers had mixed cast guys who look with him by they're usually cut out of nowhere. I mean, devante Adams is a one. But then a bunch of no one's. Yeah. It feels like Rogers and Brady make something not out of nothing, but they make them more than what you know Randall Cobb whose quarterback in college at Kentucky. You know? He just you look at these guys. And then you see them now and you go, oh, they got a really good really good wide receiver. But you know, going into it people didn't know lot of these receivers and feels like Brady and Aaron Rodgers make the most out of those wide receivers. I here's something that. I just saw the Red Sox knew Manny Machado was stealing signs from second base game game two of the World Series. So he was on second base basis loaded for Matt Kemp sacked fly when he swung at the first pitch then during the next at bat in Riquet Hernandez at the plate things got interesting during the nine pitch at bat. Machado seemed to be relaying both pitch and location with a variety of motions sometimes touching his helmet. Sometimes pulling on his jersey, sometimes touching his pants Hernandez ended up striking out. But the the Red Sox knew what was going on. Well, I mean, it's part of the game. If you're stealing a sign there. Yeah. For to make the signs tougher to steal make it more complicated. So it's not so easy for the other team to figure out what you're doing. If you have an advantage. They said in the Bronco Seahawks super the Seahawks like seek to know. Exactly what manning and Denver was going to run every time. So they should not just their defense. If they kind of know what's going to be run before it snapped. Yeah. I don't have any problem with this. It. I mean, this is this isn't clandestine espionage here. You're just looking you're on second base. And that's where teams get lazy with this with the okay there there can be an indicator. It could be I'm gonna put down fast ball curve ball. And then hit an indicator, which means the next pitch. Like hall was going to be the one that we're going to go with. I mean, there's righty of things you can do with this. Instead of us to be hey fastball. Here's your location in guys. Some guys don't want to know. What's coming? I I would prefer I would wanna know location. Like, where's he set up? You know, then if you can tell me it's going to be a fastball or breaking ball. Yeah. That gives you an advantage. But it just feels like some of these teams are lazy. So if Manny Machado is doing that, you know, more power to them. It's it's not gonna happen tonight because the Red Sox, you know, it's all this and they're gonna older, but are whatever their signs are. Let's see Mr. vanilla man tweets. I think it's Browns fans more upset with trading out of the winds pick. Then the watching pick because we need a defense in two thousand seventeen. Yeah. We were wondering if you had a do over with the Cleveland Browns in there looking at these quarterbacks, I think they're fine with Baker Mayfield. I just think once you start to get a little bit more consistent offense with him. I don't know if you're gonna keep saying coach are you going to have the same offense coordinator. That's really when you start to see players prog progress or regress because of that offensive coordinator. Yes, mclovin. We got a tweet that they also pass on Big Ben in two. Thousand four four Kellen Winslow junior the Brown the kind of a history of this. Yeah. I also saw this story. This is something I brought up a while ago. You know, the college basketball situation where there was a trial wire fraud conspiracy trial. You got three guys behind the scenes who were found guilty and could spend time in prison. The investigation did name name. So you got Rick Pitino now out at Louisville Kansas head coach Bill self. I don't know how this works. But if I'm the NC double A, I'm talking to Bill self here. Like, I want to know what you knew because you're the CEO of Kansas basketball here. And you have an assistant coach who is making a payout here. Are you upset? How is that different than Rick Pitino here? This is Sports Illustrated dot coms. Michael Rosenberg wondered why Bill self is still allowed to coach top rank Kansas this year. He wrote the NCW will surely investigate Kansas, but NCW investigations tend to be long very rarely confirm every violation. If you suspend Bill self you put the onus on him. This is what came out in the court of law. Prove it wrong. Tell us that this is a colossal misunderstanding. Suitable for a slapstick comedy do that Bill, and you can coach again self in Kansas have expressed confidence that K you operates a compliant program people all over college basketball, or either laughing or crying at that one. Well, Rosenberg goes on to write the biggest booster of Kansas athletics is a Dita's Adidas invest millions in the program. Adidas has direct access to the basketball coach. And Adidas is the one that paid the players that Kansas coaches told a Dita's it wanted if that's not a blatant recruiting violation. Then there is no blatant recruiting violations. The NC double A might as well fire. It's in tire enforcement staff the picture of Kansas that was painted in a New York courtroom is the one that's been painted privately. In the sport for years. The assistant coach and recruiter Kurtis Townsend is pleasant company. But I can't imagine that a single person in college basketball surprised his name came up Rosenberg continues to write self did not hire towns and in two thousand four to draw plays in the final minute of big twelve games. This isn't about a rogue assistant or a head coach doesn't wanna know. It's a business operation and. Bill self is the CEO, why should the CEO skate? There's great points that are brought up here. And I said this when it first came out, you know, there's a paper trail, it's under your watch at your program. I want somebody to give me some answers here. Yes. He so are they talking about just NCAA sanctions or actual legal NCAA sin? Sanctions. Because I you know, he's not the one that's committing the wire fraud. Now, did he instructs his assistant coach top recruiter to do it? Then I think he could have some legal hurdles here because you get into like net. What you know? But what you can prove your kind of situation. Yeah. One thing you have to factor in though, they'll sell thirty one wins last year. Thirty one wins the year before thirty three wins the year before and he's in the final four last year. Yeah, nobody in that state wants to go. There's some well, no, they don't there's some sour Kansas fans. Who think Bill self is a close, but not get it done guy. Well, no if I'm a Kansas fan. I don't wanna see him go. But if on the NCWA, I don't care how many wins you had last year or the year before the year before that this is your this is what this guy does. He's your top recruiter, and he's he could go to jail because he committed conspiracy or wire fraud, and he sent money to a relative of one of their top recruits. I haven't heard Bill self say, I cannot believe that was going on under my watch. I'm so disappointed. I'm angry. I got I don't know if there's any of those statements attached to Bill self here. But how does Bill self get off scot-free here? Bruce Pearl, Bruce Pearl at Auburn. He's next up where they're going to be looking to see what he knew who we knew what was going on LSU's going to be involved in this as well. So I know that coach K says this is a blip on the radar. It shouldn't be a blip on the radar. Because if this is happening, and you're funneling money, and you know, when you think about it Adidas can do all of this sort of above board that you know, that's not something that's in a sneaky behind the scenes. Hey, Kansas was going to sign I believe in eighty eighty four million dollar deal with Adidas like this is big time money big time programs. Big time coaches. And I was also wondering I, you know, is this a crime is it a sports crime? Or is it a crime? I know that they're saying wire fraud and conspiracy and like that like the NC double A in the in the university is the one that was defrauded and who's the victim of this crime. That's what I'd like to know the families got money. Teams got there they wanted. So I I don't know if I can put you in jail for this. Now, I'm sure that, you know, obviously, the legal lease involved in this and wire fraud and conspiracy and all those things, but if the universities are saying, hey, you know, what is that what they're saying? Mclovin that it's the universities who were. The ones who are the victims here. I guess we were trying to parse it on this side of the glass, and that's the best. We come up with the universities were defrauded. They had to take these players under false circumstance. You have a did they want these players, of course, in they benefit from. The course it's yes, they're saying they the university's didn't know that these guys were getting illegal payments, and if they had known they were getting illegal payments. We would have never accepted them at the university. So that's why. Wow. Did they've been duped. And right. We didn't know that. I didn't want this top five recruit. I mean, I wanted them. But not that way. I wanted it honestly. Yeah. Paulie? So it's wire fraud, they used emails and phone yet to conduct a scheme where they paid someone if they'd just handed the money, and there is no communications, it wouldn't be wire fraud, it would just be paying players. So you wouldn't go to jail for that for the same exact act of buying a player. But you don't use a phone or Email or some type of communication system. I know that this goes on in the shoe companies are the ones that have the money. They had these relationships, and this goes back to when Sonny Vaccaro was it Nike and had the brilliant idea to sign up, these coaches because once you got the coaches, then you've got access then all of a sudden, the shoe companies are the ones running these programs and make no mistake about it. There's so much money involved in this. And I can just hey who do you want me to get? So it's not a booster your booster is a shoe company used to be you always had a booster. You know, a couple of guys. You know, they love to be the big, man. Hey, what's it gonna take? All right. All right. A check. I'll get him. Now. It's the shoe company. So it it's it's almost right there in front of you. It's so close to you that you don't even notice it. That's what's amazing. But there's no way you can have a guy who's been with you on your staff for over a decade. You know, what he does? And then somehow you didn't know that this was going on. It just like when Rick Pacino said, hey, I didn't know somebody who was given this kid one hundred thousand dollars. Wait. It's your program. So somebody has to sign off on one hundred thousand. But Patino gets fired and Bill self is got the number one team in the country. Yeah. See that's a long line of Patino incidents, the true. But there could be a long line of Bill self incidence to there aren't yet though. No, not yet. We're not all reading the details. Not yet of those things not yet. Yes. Mclovin. If you're a coach or you're involved in the college basketball industry, and these three guys go to jail. Are you going to say something and say, hey, I think this is an injustice, you should get them is anybody gonna come out and say this the stinks at these guys are taking the fall for an entire industry. Well, I don't know if colleges the coaches have to say this. But I just think like somebody in the legal community is going. Okay. Wait a minute here. Remember, the judge making this sound like, you know, we're still living in the nineteen fifties with college athletics, and the the the kids in Rah, Rah Rah and all that nonsense. You know, this this is that's not what this is. Now. Now, the judge made it sound like, you know, how dare these guys go rogue and spend this money on these basketball players they defrauded the university's no university. Do a good job at doing that to themselves here. But you know, Michael Rosenberg is sports Illustrated's right Bill self escaping here. He's got the number one team in the country. And it happens. It's going to continue to happen. It's just they find a different way to make it happen. Yup. Oh. And the next guy's know. Here's what I gotta do to pay. No email. No phone calls. No texts. Just a bag of money like the good old days when she back in the old s south Western Conference days. They'd just drop a bag of money on your porch. Can't get caught with a bag of money. Yeah. Yeah. Does he don't you feel like at some point? Then maybe people are wondering if the debit cards linked to foreign accounts is a good idea. I mean, that's Bill was just talking about like kids are getting debit cards that are linked to to foreign accounts that they that that's their spending money, right? Yeah. I mean, that's a whole paper trail right there. But in the moment, it's working it five years ten years down the road. They may find find out that we were doing this maybe, but that's what's going on. So if I give you I give you an ATM card and there's an account and its offshore. Let's say I got I'm a sign you up one hundred grant. And nobody knows you didn't get a big lump sum. It's not in your checking account. It's just here's your ATM card. You know, when you go, and you get your books, you know, you get your school gear. And here's your ATM card, and then you go and here's your code. How about we do your jersey number like your number twenty two it's a two two to two. And then you can't forget that. Can you Jimmy? No, you can't. And you're just pulling out cash. Don't spend it. Don't do anything. Extravagant. Dole by nice cars. Don't buy. Nice clothes. You got walking around money. You want to get mom something mon-? It sounds like pretty good idea. Yeah. Paulie, the best one. I ever heard. The rumor is a school that no names, obviously, one of their boosters owned riverboat casino and the players were told here's where you go. Here's when you go. Here's what table to go to you'll do very well on your bets. It's completely legal. You know, you could walk in walk out legal to appoint and probably if you're not legal legal from its legal from a point that you could walk in anyone can public and walk in and play play twenty one play blackjack and win legally, I'm gonna guess that rigging machine. Casinos illegal, but hang off a dealer to the naked eye. Yeah. Just a couple of kid making four hundred bucks at the craps table. I I had a guy that I knew at played against him in the summer league. And he said that he went on a recruiting trip to Kentucky and he went to the race. Track. And it was just you know, what your favorite number. And so he would say what his favorite number was with the horses. And he he ended up with a four fifty s l Mercedes. He drove them this summer one summer had a four fifty is that SEAL or S L Mercedes so to cedar. And remember when he pulled up with that. I went whoa. Price just went up there. And he's one of the better players in the nation. And he he that's how he got paid ESE. That's why I love following college athlete Instagram accounts. Because you're like my God kid. You can't really be this stupid. Pose in front of your new Clark. And you like it's all over the news. Yeah. Like, they eighteen years old. What are you doing with that car? I we'll take a break phone calls coming up pull update and another meet Friday song as well. That's after this. 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My basketball team the trial is over should be able to ask them questions here. He also says when recruiting perspective student athletes, my staff, and I have not and do not offer improper inducements to them or their families to influence their college decisions. Nor are we aware of any third party involvement to do. So we'll see that's that's incorrect because he did have somebody on his staff who is going to prison for doing this. So your staff did do that at least one I guess these are just rogue guys is that what it is. We're supposed to believe that the head coach has no idea. Hey, how do we get that recruit? You don't wanna know coach trust me. I got him. These guys are all control freaks never met a coach a successful coach wasn't a control freak. There's no way that you're going to go. Hey, whatever you're doing. I don't wanna know. Now, maybe when UCLA in there halcyon days with John wooden, and you had a sugar daddy who is Sam Gilbert who was, you know, funneling money to players, and maybe John wooden didn't know that that was happening. But you had some of the top players in the country showing up to play at UCLA. It's happened. It will continue to happen because there's so much money to be made. And I said to make love and he goes, well, why would the shoe companies be doing this, and they want to have a relationship with a successful program? And if you sign a multi year deal for sixty eighty million dollars, I have product placement of Adidas on your program. That's going to be on national TV. I, you know, have access to the coach to the players. Maybe the players we have a relationship with them. Once they get to the NBA. So no, it's not hard to follow. If you're following the money. Yes. Mclovin. I thought. It was to get these guys under their wings for the NBA. But I realized they're paying guys who aren't really going to be a stars this is about, and that's why these coaches get the money because they they know that the coach is going to stay there. And you want them to have your gear that they're wearing on national TV better than advertising right better than tourists. Yes. But this is Kansas number one team in the country, which by the way, how were they number one in dukes, not number one. Because it feels like Duke has the two best players in America three. Maybe Cam radish Zion. Williamson and a guy name RJ Barrett. I just looked at a mock draft three or four but freshman dough win. It's always like the Villanova. Is that what what Kentucky's are they number two in the air for two and they have all freshman. Yeah. This is Kansas has a junior in the starting lineup there the old veterans. Yes polling. If you were an assistant coach at a major program, would you let your head coach? No, if you're doing nefarious things to bring recruits, or would you just show him the baby look who I brought in. I'm your head recruiter. Because I want to get ahead of then though, paulie as the head coach, I would want to know you want to know. Yes. But would you like let's say on the assistant coach and you're the head coach Dan a blank university. I'm just bringing in this recruits. Does a coach ask, hey, how you doing this or like fantastic work? I don't think this is like a manager saying to a pitcher. Hey, I don't have to tell you to hit that guy. You know, what to do? This is situation where you're going to want to know how much somebody cost I'm guessing, you know, what are we in for which the relationship we have here. I can't imagine a head coach going. Hey, whatever you do. I don't wanna know about it. I just here to coach basketball. Yeah. Efforts point saying once you start asking questions, then you can't hide behind the ignorance after the fact if something ever comes out, you can say, you didn't know because you instructed your assistant coaches, all you didn't ask any questions, and you could just kind of well, he's saying he didn't know. So he's already saying that whether he knew or not. So you're going gonna there's going to be you know, is it plausible deniability? I mean, come on. You're trying to tell me that you know, you're getting a guy that other schools want. You know, what the price is? There's always somebody who lets you know, what the price is with a, you know, a lot of these kids. Yes, how many times can college coaches keep going back to that? I. Like like, this isn't something. That's like happens rampantly in the industry. It's not some outlier where like, whoa, what happened to Kansas there cheese? I don't know. I don't know. Do you think they have an actual budget with players names maximum that they're willing to pay? Well, this one will give this to this one. We'll give the data job. But we'll give him a little less money. I hope you didn't write it down or put it on a computer. It's put it that way. But I'm gonna guess that you have a budget. How much you're gonna spend. You knew it was going to cost you one hundred thousand dollars. But this Louisville recruit you knew what the number one their coaches who are on record saying somebody's too too pricey fourth. That's too much money. So do they have salary cap there? Jimmy in Wisconsin joins us. I jimmy. What do you have for me? Oh, Jimmy from Wisconsin. I've got a me too Friday song. Oh, it's an a live version. What is the song that it's a takeoff? Johnny cash. Folsom prison blues. Let's go. Let's bring Jimmy. Okay. Stoic train whistle year. Your trigger coming. It's role round back role. 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It's Not Lookin' Great For Gang Green

Boomer & Gio

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It's Not Lookin' Great For Gang Green

"From the Investors Bank studio boomer assize Ingredient Audie boomer and Geo on the fan simulcasts across the country on CBS sports network. Go Tuesday Thursday a morning. What a horrendous sportsnight your a mets and jets fan and we know a lot of you are out there bureau. If you're a giants fan you might have a little bit of hope that you're going to see a new cornerback every a young and exciting twist to this season earlier than we expected but a toy Monday night football last night what a shame world brutal watch and I'm telling you. I don't even think the browns are all that impressive impressive big last night man C. J. Moseley was air quin Williams's air and of course if Sam Darnold was healthy and playing it would have been a close game. The jets avid shot got to win but of course that doesn't happen Trevor Simian starts. The offense looks terrible then he goes out. I don't know how that man walked off the field. It looked like he snapped his leg. It happened. He got up and walked off. The field. Luke Falk comes in was on a practice squad couple of days ago. He can't get anything going and the jets offensive. It's of line and offense. Just come pulley overwhelmed. We Love Kelvin Beach Him. He came in here. He was the nominee the Walter Payton nominee for the jets man of the year myles. Garrett abused him last night so the jets now are two. They don't have a quarterback. We don't know when Sam I am Darwin's. GonNa come back. The giants are into they might make a switch football in this city has been a travesty the last couple of years and I really thought we were GonNa have something this year with the jets and it's all gone to hell in a couple of weeks good morning boomer our you know. I'm doing alright Gio. I will say that the jet defense despite really good last night as you know. Odell Beckham Junior has his moments and you know he has the tinted visors. GotTa go off the field beginning then. He's got to leave at half time to go get fluids and then you you know. I mean it's just it's just so all of his things everything going on his one handed catch slant to the house and he's going into get fluid. Somebody's I've got to tell Booger McFarland that he didn't play for the jets he played for the giants for God's sake. Oh my God is one of the it's like what is. ESPN the and doing the hell is running that play. It was actually worse last year. It was worse led. The broadcast was worse last year than it was this year but booker is just he's. He's like a space cadet. I can't I it just it's just it's so painful but just from jets perspective I actually they played their asses off. They played hard. myles Garrett is going to be one of the best defense events in football and you could see the athlticism that he has the size that he has the quickness that he has. I mean you're asking almost the impossible to beat a team like that with that defensive line with third string quarterback. It's just not going to happen and and for Luke Faulk you know what I thought he did. Okay I mean stood in there and I look folks. It is what it is. It's injuries and you know. The saints are going to go through it now. The steelers go through it now. This is the NFL football season. It is a war of attrition and right now. The jets are feeling the pain and they're going to feel it probably for another couple of weeks until Sam comes back they at least having established personality and athlete back there that can hopefully win some games for them but it was who who's really like. I thought the defense held and held and held the fact that they held him the twenty three points is pretty damn. Good your and you know they got after them. I mean they were they. Were flying around that. There were or a couple of guys like hairston played. I thought he played his ass all right well. He's in there for Tremaine Johnson. I'd have thought that was great did like that there was there was a little message being sent last night. I don't know if it was something to do with on the field or something to do with off the field remain Johnson last year misses meetings and stuff and could have been late writings. Could've I've been you know a half acid missing training training meeting or whatever with the trainers i. I don't know what it is but that that says a lot that I'm telling you it says is a lot and I thought I thought their defense played hard man. I really did and they were flying all over the place. They held on the twenty three points times. They helped in the field goals. You you just you're not. GonNa win a game against the team. That's loaded with stars even though they're not playing great either but with a with a third string quarterback. There's just no way away yeah. The problem is he didn't think that after a couple of weeks jet season would feel like it was lost now we didn't expect much out of the giants with their rebuilding and hopefully they go to Daniel. Jones talk about that in a little bit but just didn't think that all went to you felt like the season will be over for the jets. This was supposed to be a year where you I thought they would have a winning season that they could. Maybe ten wins that they could grab a wildcard spot and at this juncture. It doesn't look like any of that is possible so Sam Darnold. We'll come back doc at some point when that is. I don't know when he comes back. Could this team even have a win at that well. Cj Mosul Williams will but they're going to be three because they're playing a patriots next right okay but I'm just saying we'll be back. You know there's I know this sounds ridiculous and I know that given the fact they lost last night in uh-huh del Beckham Junior took off for a touchdown and all that other crap is here's the thing they have fourteen games fourteen and every time you now they've they've lost two home games. You know that that's the other bad part of this and we knew that this part of the season was going to be very very difficult then when you add in the back that you lost your best defensive player your number one draft. Pick your starting quarterback. One of your top wide receivers and tight end is is suspended. That's five players off the field field and it's it's not going to be easy. I know that and it's really it's sad. It's sad it really is the season. The season is essentially lost not not over yet and they're going to be all in three. I'll tell you why that I'll tell you why it's not over yet because so many different things can happen during an. NFL season I mean God forbid head for the Patriots in their fans at Tom. Brady gets hurt. You know that could happen. I mean Ben Rothlisberger is out for the year. Jubran is out for minimum of six weeks. These things happen happened throughout the NFL jets though you know what I mean by more than anybody else whether it happens the first four weeks of the season the middle four weeks of the season the third quarter of of the season or the the final four weeks of the season you know it's going to happen and it happens to everybody and it just a matter of whether whether or not those players are going to come back and be significant contributors what's his name. Cj Moseley Quinta Williams both will be back Sam Darnold. We'll be back herndon. We'll be back. They will be back and I know I'm just telling you. I was actually really impressed with the way Greg Williams defense played last night. It really was especially with the fact that they only score twenty. Three points and Baker Mayfield did throw for over three hundred yards and a lot of that came on one slant play right. I they held them. The seventy yards rushing in the field position game was a mess or the jets a whole night but I felt like they were inside their five yard line higher second-half right. I'm I'm just you know it sucks because they lost it sucks because Sam darnold not on the field and it sucks Adam gays because he did not want to start his jet careers. There's head coach this way. I know that but there are reasons why they're not excuses. They're obvious to all of us. You're out there with your third string. quarterback your second-string. I was going to be much better but you're third string out or back actually courted himself okay well. He completed twenty passes. I'm not saying low right and he also had a couple balls. Drop on them. especially that would have been a nice little completion for a little bit. His first first completion may be settled him down a little bit and it was a drop right over the middle. It was just really really frustrating to see that. Let me tell you Baker Mayfield's running all over the place you know he's not in his top form either well the brands. I was not all that impressed with the browns and maybe it sounds like I'm hating on them but I ask. This game was was unfolding. I'm just thinking that if the jets team were healthy at home last night that they would have won the game released would have been alvalade closer than it was right on them with Williams Moseley and darn well. It's really not Sam because the defense defense was fine in my opinion defense would have been even better had mostly been out there. I've just it's just Luke Falk out there against the Patriots defensive tweeted them. We made our pick pick. Yesterday I made my pick simply because of the jet offense and the problems that it was going to have you know I saw that last night. It's not because of the jet defense and if the defense would have gotten anything out of the offense. I think that would help them under twenty points I really do. I really what is next week going to look like though I mean we're sitting here now. Alexander could have been worse whatever what's next week in a look like with Luke Falk against his patriots defense that might be the best that they've had in about five or six years off you know and Hav off Levian bells a hell of a football player man played his ass off last night is is a tremendous football player I just I hope he doesn't and I want him and this is going to be crazy. I I just want him to be a leader. In the way he leads is the by the way he plays and I hope he practices. I hope he comes hard this week week. opie looks forward to going against the Patriots. I know that he's you know he's kind of running uphill now and he'll be running uphill this week. I just I just don't want him to like checkout Kowt because they're not winning now. I want him and I don't think he will. I think he's been kind of quiet. I don't want him to go make Fitzpatrick Jalen Ramsey on the jets sure and shouldn't be no money they signed him and hopefully he's going to continue to play the way he's playing. I appreciated his effort last night. I really I love the way he plays football. He's a terrific player and the jets got a real one. There you know when you look back at who the jets sinus free agents. They got real good players. They got really good players and I just I just gotTa hang on but we gotta hang on and realizes of but team game season now but it's really a thirteen game season because they're going to be three. They're gonNA get embarrassed next week and that's spread. Even larger has to be after last night's performance than it was even against the dolphins because it's a home game for the Patriots but but like what's the ceiling now for the team so they could stay the they still seven wins. It's supposed to be better than this year but Greg there stanton things change. It doesn't matter what their season feels over there not in a situation because their star players aren't plan well. They're they're. They're not they're not. They're in this situation because to start place or hurt or sick. I know but it does it. Does it really matter why they're in the situation that they're in this situation. You're going to be Owen three steamrolled next week mart okay well then that's fine. I mean this is a year where they were challenged for a playoff spot. I mean this is the ceiling on them going into the year. When it was nine or ten games at now they're in this mess and I understand because of injuries and everything else but that's not really any sort of consolation relation prize to a to a jets fan that it was things out of their control that is now sunk them to a point where they're going to be in three and getting their ass kicked next week against the New England Patriots if they cover twenty point spread or whatever it is it'll be a miracle. I'm just telling you that there is a long season and a lot of different things happened every the jets. The jets and the jets adversity is hit right in week one and how long this adversity will last a could be another three weeks. It could be another four weeks but then that's when they have to now get their act together. When Sam comes back in the middle of their season one their schedule actually isn't quite white as difficulty right about that but they're going to have to go on like a five or six game winning streak salvage anything you know what it happens it happens in the NFL. I don't know I know this to me. I look at this game last night. Okay I knew the jets. I felt yesterday very strongly that the jets were GONNA lose. I told you that I told you because I thought it was more their offense and it kind of bored out last night and unfortunately for Trevor Simian. You know he's out. He doesn't really have a chance and Luke Falk has to come in Luke Falk of all people people like you would have never thought Luke faulk would have been starting on Monday night in week. Two against the browns for all illustrates how much of a disaster the season in which is how bad the adversity is yes but that doesn't mean that they can't get this thing on the right track and it may not going to happen this week. I get it. I understand what you'd be saying. If they had one they'd held on against the bills and I take when I compare the effort by the jet defense last night compared to the effort by the giants defense. It's not even it's not even close. It means an effort or is it talent. It's being I mean. I thought the effort was good. I thought the scheme was good. I thought they made a tough on Baker. There may feel that he was running around. I am not saying it was the monsters of the midway the bears of eighty five or the Ravens two thousand. I'm just trying to look for a silver lining here here somewhere. I'm not I am not I am. Not One that you know is giving up. You know I mean I don't that's not in my DNA but I I don't think it's the matter of giving up as it is just looking at the situation realistically and a season that had so much promises is already on the brink of being one. That's just another lost year. I mean that's that's the reality of it. I mean it's not it's not like giving up. These players aren't gonNA give up. Adam Gates isn't gonNA give up. Nobody gets off hot. There's a lot of it still end up. Five and eleven not the way it was supposed to go this year every year. There's there are teams that the first four weeks to the season look awful they may end up one in three tuned to and I just looked terrible and the jets band up on for I don't know but but all of a sudden it clicks in something happens and they get players back that are injured and this team when they get sam back and he's healthy and he's feeling one good. They'll look completely different. I'm telling you you'll be too late. I that's the question that that's what I'm trying to tell you but I don't know I don't know we'll be to. It's not too late. Well that would be a shocker. I think right now feel need only three and then by the Philadelphia Eagles after that. Let's go you never know. Let's go to Sam Washington. DC Sam what's happening brother boomer I love you. I really do thank you really do. I appreciate that listen to you and I just cannot stand this. Take you are having this morning and I knew you were going to be talking like this. LACI in that game last night. Gio thank you you for saying everything that I was thinking and keeping boomer and check this morning. This is not going to click. This system is not right. I'm sorry this offense is just not even exist and one touchdown in two games gave is a joke. He was loping last night. He had just pushed on his face. You look like you need to be there. You know what he was doing. Okay Le that the stars aren't the stars playing tremaine Johnson Leonard Williams uh-huh. I mean these guys are being benched. You're in the system. Good job is done. It's just not going to get better. We're not like Oh. We're almost there at this. This should be blowed up yeah. They're in the middle of blown-up Salmon. I understand thank you for getting it off your chest. You're acting like they have Lamar. Jack says quarterback. You're acting acting like you know there's drew. Brees is their quarterback you. It's a third string quarterback. Their defense is flying around. They hit people last night. I think they actually got after Baker. Baker Mayfield you know they hit the hidden joke a couple of times. I mean I know all you guys can call in and just just yes. Do whatever you say whatever you want negative as you want because that's what we're here for. We're here for you to get it off your chest. I don't WanNA argue with anybody. I really don't I the business but I'm saying in this regard. I don't argue with anybody because I see why. The jets are having. I know why they're having their problems. Their problem album is their offense and their offense is being run by third string quarterback who's never played in an NFL game. That's supposed to make jets fans field earns about it's the reality of what it is. Baker Mayfield run around. They don't have Josh Allen run around. They don't have SAM darnold out. They're going to be good crappy yeah but I actually thought it was closer than it was going to this. Damn thing offensive. I know they want to close lose by twenty points. They could barely move the football. I mean I understand. It's Luke Falk didn't expect a lot but I also expect to play a little bit better than that. I mean there was a couple of times Trevor Siemian Luke Falk drop back. I mean there was a brown in his face in under a second. That's the types. Oh here's what happens. You have a kid back. There and I thought actually it didn't look all that bad. I thought that he was kind of more calm than I expected but you have guys back there that are not in a situation. It's a Monday night. Football game is a very talented defensive line and I don't know what we're expecting. I guess we're expecting you know thirty five of forty five for four hundred fifty yards in Patrick mahomes like no no no. Nobody what he's saying that right well either dealing so the offense of wine is dealing with a quarterback. Dave never blocked for before in real game and that quarterbacks back there who knows about the snap count who knows if he's got the right place called who knows if he's missing audibles at the line of scrimmage. All that part of that offense is gone now because so you have inexperienced quarterback running it Jesus. What do you expect expect a little bit better than Oh my God you guys the little guys out there and away and that's fine but you're also making it seem like because this situation is what it is. The jet fans should feel better about it. They're not gonNA feel better about it. They may even feel worse about it. Because I feel is good for fifty years. The team sucks I saw everybody's listening post ear but this was supposed to be a year that was a a winning year felt attain their quarterback on Demar nucleoside. Yeah you'RE GONNA do. What are you going to do to be pissed off about your number. One linebacker pose a groin muscle. What are you GonNa do be annoyed. Be disappointed yeah. You know what it's getting my fanny now. We're talking about adaptation pouting on the sideline. Are you kidding me. I was looking at well well. He's pouting on asylum socks. We gotTA play I mean. How do you know what it looks like until they get all their players back? When it's too late you're saying then look like a team and then we'll go back. Wow you know it's too bad that the the big problem last night wasn't even the big problem. The big problem is that they blew that sixteen point lead in week one this this would be much more palatable to everybody if they were sitting there at one and one you're saying Sam maybe gets healthy enough to come back after the bye could salvage his thing but the problem is you know. Oh Oh in three in one and two at feels like there's an entire mountain range. The amazing thing to me is that there are sixteen there were sixteen. Nothing on the bills and Sam Darnold Arnold is playing a game in which she has mononucleosis. He's feeling crappy coming up to the game and he's still out there playing and they store winning and I'm wondering why is this kid look different now Mike now. I know why he looks different. He's out of the freaking field playing with Mono. Everybody thinks that's an easy thing to do. I don't think anybody it said that the guy remember the guy called Motoguzzi as one guy football orig- extrapolating opinions to the masses which I wouldn't do. That's all the same one guy calls. It doesn't mean that everybody feels that way. What does this guy you agree with this guy this morning. They called. I didn't agree with Adam Gates pouting outing well. He didn't agree Josh showing by. Your silence that you well. I was in on it. You were you were you were fighting on it and you were talking a whole bunch so I figured figured let you finish your point. Then I'll squeeze in when I can you know. We've got some weather for your boomer. I want to hear the weather sponsored by the way you guys sounds seven eleven magi cloudy and thunderstorms right because Owen three to start an NFL football season's a lot of fun and everybody should really be buckling up open enjoying it. Can I buy the rest of the season tickets. Is that possible open three. Let's what are they. GonNa lose by forty next week. That's awesome man. Sign me up. Let's go take flight.

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325: Activate Your Powerful Alter Ego with Todd Herman

Earn Your Happy

1:10:17 hr | 1 year ago

325: Activate Your Powerful Alter Ego with Todd Herman

"Doing something that's really hard for you and China beat it with willpower or just crit rarely actually wins. However, one thing that truly we as human beings are gifted with over anything else on this planet is our creative imagination. That is one of the things that really does make us unique. Welcome to earn your happy podcast. I'm Laurie harder founder of the bliss project. Three time fitness world champion, fitness expert and cover model turned self love junkie lifestyle entrepreneur and author each week. I'll bring you a guest or a thought that will help you bust through your fears connect to your soul and get focused and clear so you can elevate your life business and relationships we don't wait until we're ready for someone to tell us. We're good enough. We take what we want and we annoyance ourselves. Get ready to earn own and on apologetically rock your happiness every single day. Are you with me? Here we go. Thank you, everyone for tuning into a nother episode of the podcast. And I hope that this is finding you in a week that you are choosing to create and make amazing. And before we get started go to are you ready? Yes, I'm asking you to go to the project dot info. If you haven't checked it out yet, if you have in your already coming than this, you get you even more excited because this is the year that is going to elevate an Iraq your world, if you've already been in the past I'm telling you get ready, it's going to the next level. And if you have not been there yet, and you are ready for shift in your life. And you're ready to meet your like minded tribe. And you're also just ready to have some fun. Let go of some stuff. Go home with an amazing group of friends and really learn how to shift your whole life in one weekend. Yeah. That might be a big claim, but it's going to happen. So if you choose it, it's all there for you. It's all there for you, everything that you need is in that room to learn or to let go or to connect with people. So I hope that you join us, and I will see you there. It is coming up, and it's coming really really fast you guys so go to Douglas project dot info, and I'm really excited about today's episode because this is a human being that I have been following for quite some time. I discovered him on Marie TV. So Marie Forleo show. And I remember that he was talking about five secrets to change your life. And it was all about the biology of change, and he had so much wisdom that I literally watched this video over and over and over because I was determined to be able to understand it. So well that I could teach it because it was changing my life. So today on the podcast. I have this incredible human being. And we have Todd Herman with us today. And he has come out with a new book called the alter ego effect and taught Herman is a toughness and performance coach to professional and Olympic athletes. He's a leadership in performance advisor to billionaires and hundreds of entrepreneurs, he's also the creator of the ninety day year, which is a business achievement program designed for business owners to master the art of execution, and this awesome. Human truly is a performance expert. And that's where we're going to talk all about today. It's really about learning how to activate your heroism self, and you're gonna learn all about the different drivers that we are truly made up of and not just that you might even get to come up with your own alter ego that you get to create and name and call on. I loved this episode because so much of what I've done to create any sort of success. In my life was really confirmed today and not only that I really felt like I had the tools to take it to the next level. So I know you're going to love this make sure that you tune in until the end, and let's get started. Todd. I'm so excited to have you on the podcast. Thank you so much for coming on today. I don't know how I got so lucky to actually get the invite. So thank you for having me. Okay. Well, that's that's amazing. And so nice to say, but I'll tell you that you have litter. Okay. So I was like Marie Forleo obsessed for many years still am, and I found you on the video, but was the five five secrets to change your life. Yes. And at that time, I was just absolutely in love with learning about the you know, psychology physiology and biology behind change. For me. It was like I I knew my journey had so much to do with that. So I love being able to teach it. So I watched that video so many times to be able to describe it to people like to people. So that you made me like you made me sound so much smarter. So borrowed borrowed knowledge. And now, it's mine up. Exactly, exactly. What will? Thank God Marie was such a good coach because she made me look good on that video too. Amazing. So I'm super excited to have you here because I was just going through your book, and I literally cannot wait to actually have the physical copy in my hands and not to jump right into your book. But oh my God. I'm really really thrilled talk about this topic, which the title of your book, would you share? What it is. It's called the alter ego effect the power of secret identities to transform your life. Okay. So I know that this is like literally one of my biggest secrets, but I need to learn all about now like what the science is behind it. But before you do that, would you share just a little bit about yourself while I live here in New York City now, but I did not start in a place where there is eight and a half million people in one spot I grew up on a farm and ranch in western Canada outside of a small city called medicine. Hats, you know, eight thousand acres or ten thousand acres whatever it was when I grow up. I was in the middle of nowhere truly I had. This kind of knack for sports nine ended up getting some football scholarship, and I was national make badminton player. So I might kind of history was always around sport. And I had some unfortunate stuff happened to meet up your young age where I kind of sort of get into like mental toughness stuff on of really actually just survival. Honestly, just to keep myself alive. And now without going to bend to basically know I was sexually assaulted at a church camp. When I was when I was twelve and I started getting into again like just trying to master my own mental game. And it actually really served me then playing sports, and then when I got done playing I started volunteering at high school coaching some kids and kind of share with them what my strategies were it always helped me get into the zone and flow state in these kids are against great results. In overtime started getting asked to speak, and again, this wasn't a business, and then it evolved into one. And I ended up starting up a peak performance in sports science training business recommends athletes on the mental game. Started Rick with pro athletes Olympic athletes, a few years later, an end anytime, you're working with the elite of sport. You got a lot of achievers in business that are like, well, hey, I got to perform at a high level too. So I started building up training programs in the corporate and small business world. And yeah, kind of long story short. It's taken me all over the globe worked with tens of thousands of people. And but one of my kind, of course, secrets and strategies was using alter egos with athletes because once I started work with more and more kind of better quality athletes. There was this consistent theme that started showing up, and it was that they would say things like I said on the field as a different self or use a character or persona or I take a different version out there and a lot of times, they didn't say alter ego. But that was the role dancing around it. And I was like, oh, that's really cool because I did the exact same thing when I played football. And then when I started my business I felt like I was twenty one when I started. And I looked like I was probably twelve and I was so insecure about what I. How young I looked that? It was really stopping me from going out and doing the things that I wanted to go and do even though I knew I was good at it. Because I already displayed that I was getting these young athletes great result. But I wouldn't you know wouldn't book the talk or I wouldn't reach out to people and as it just wrapped up for my own head. And I was like wait a second. I use this kind of alter ego, thing and sport. Why can't I this is just a different Plainfield for me? And and so I went out and this was long before wearing glasses was cool. So nineteen Ninety-seven to take you back. And I went to a lens crafters in west Edmonton mall, whereas living at the time. And I got a non-prescription pair of glasses to step into my superman version of myself in business, and I was kind of it was kind of like the reverse of Clark Kent, he would put them onto become Clark Kent. And I would put them onto this super version of myself and business, and that's what really got me started got me out of my own way allowed me to circumvent all that other kind of crap that I was you know, trying to narrate in. My own head that who I was and just get past myself just to kind of wrap it up than in sport. I just saw that these other athletes were doing it too. And so I started to create the process in the system for doing it for other people, and, you know, fifteen years later, I find the wrote the book. Okay. So many things in number one. Thank you so much for sharing that another some new people, especially so powerful coming from a male who's willing to share that. Number two. I loved your dedication in your book for all the people who grew up in the middle of nowhere because I grew up in the middle of nowhere. So that's why like him. I love the alter ego idea. I think for so many people whether you grew up in a small town or a big city, whatever it is, especially I think people from smaller towns when we when we think that we want to become something or make you it. It can really mess with you thinking like you don't have the skills coming from smaller town, or that you're not person or you don't have the background, and you can feel really consumed like almost like eating you alive. Like, you're not gonna make it in that in that arena. So you do need to step into something. So for you, what it sounds like this was your own personal journey of stepping into your own alter ego. So can you kind of share that? Outs. What really started happening? Once you finally stepped in. Well, so I talk about this in the book that the importance of like if I was going to step into this character. So when I played football I had my alter egos when I was in. It was kind of a combination of many coming together. And I I'm a huge native American buff growing up where I grew up. I was lucky because it was actually kind of a very famous part of Canada when when sitting bull after the the battle at little Bighorn when he fled across the United States ordering to Canada his tribe settled in in the area that are farm in ranches. And so anyways grope around discovering. Fire rocks and kind of digging around and trying to find old arrowheads and stuff is just fascinated with that culture, but what has fascinate with was when we have a warring party when they would dance around the fire what they were doing was it was five or six of them coming together to try to channel to become one. And it was all about unity, and and just creating that real. Power of force of many going out. And there's actually someone I'm going to share with everybody later that has used it as well in the same way that everybody knows and might be surprised with. But so I love that idea. And so I wanted to create this tribe in my head to go onto the football field and play way bigger than I was I was scrawny kid was fast. But a it was impossible for me. I could eat everything in the world, and I just couldn't put on any weight, but I went out there, and I played way bigger than myself because in my head I had Walter Payton who was you know, the more the greatest running backs of all time in at Ronnie Lott because I played defense as well on. He was an amazing safety for the San Francisco forty Niners, and then this tribe of native Americans, and I always had this mental movie theater in my head and used it. And and I use it as an escape when I was going through a lot of tough times onto just imagine a different version of myself, and it served me then because that visualization skill skillset is really a powerful skill to develop and a lot of people actually dishonor others by just saying. You need to visualize at Billiton is actually very difficult and challenging for people to do. So if any of the people are listening have heard that and you've tried to visualize. It's a skill that you have to develop and so I had developed it quite well. And I had this mental movie theater now would step into it. And I would imagine Walter and Ronnie Lott in this tribe coming towards me, and I used trading cards. I had three from Walter Payton at two from Ronnie Lott, and I'd put one of Walter Payton's in my helmet at put two of Ronnie, lots one hundred each shoulder pad, and I'd take Doug last two of Walter Payton's. And I put them inside of my five pads in my in my football equipment. So I could run like him. I could hit like Ronnie Lott, and I could think like Walter on the field, but I would imagine Walter the being the one who handed me the cards and said, okay, here you go activate all of us on that field. But don't for one second dishonor who we are how we played and how we showed up by not being the entire time. It's super important that if you do embody something like this, you really engage with it. Because just the way that the mind works is it will always your beer behavior will always default through whatever your most resonant origin story is that you're acting through. And I wanted to create an origin story for my alter egos that was way more powerful than that insecure version of myself was going to show up like, and and just that idea of like, Walter handing me those cards someone that I was just was my hero and saying that to me I was like, well, there's not a chance in hell. I'm not going to go out there and dishonor you guys I'm gonna show up as my best version of myself and allowed me to take on traits and characteristics that really did allow me to play my best. And then when I got into now sort of fast forward into the business space, when I would I would I would imagine all of my kind of the heroic qualities of those people that I wanted to embody living inside of my glasses and the moment that those. Glasses went in o- pass that kind of temple area. It was like flicking on a switch. And then I was going to be transferring from this insecure inarticulate and non or indecisive person into someone who was confident decisive and articulate the switch was getting flicked, and I wasn't going to dishonor Joseph Campbell who wrote the hero's journey who is you know, total hero of mine. You know, ABRAHAM LINCOLN who had just wanted to like embody that level of character and integrity when faced with all of the insurmountable. Odds of him getting something like equal rights for everyone past and stuff with that. That's what I was flicking on. And I was embodying truly those people, and if I ever caught myself being insecure or second guessing myself because my my alter egos name was Richard in business, which is actually my first name. And so anytime Richard start to you know, here or embody the thoughts of Todd those classes had to come off because Richard. Would never think that way he wouldn't he wouldn't be concerned about how old he was or get caught up of what other people are going to be thinking of him when he was on stage. And I was lucky I had Jim Rohn as a mentor at a young age. And Jim was like Todd if you're up there, and you're offering me value. I'll never question. How old you are? Because you're giving me value. So that's kind of a little bit of that of that kind of process that I went through and I talk about it in the book, and how others do it as well on my ass. Okay. So many things here. I'm like you. You talked about activating it. You talked about changing your default in. It sounds to me like you used anchor like the glasses are incurring. So for people who are thinking. Okay. I wanna start doing this. I wanna start making that change because I'll tell you like the number one thing I hear from people is that that disconnect between who they are now in who they can see themselves as in that bridge of imposter syndrome middle. Lessing that bridge, and I tried to explain to people like even right now like I can be sitting in my home, and I can still feel like an imposter in this life that I've built all around. And it's kind of like you have to turn it on in Anchorage. So can you actually speak a little bit more? If people are like, okay. Well, how is that actually happening though, just a little bit more into even creating an inker for yourself or what you were doing there with your glasses? Well, I mean, a I practiced it, right? Like, I would stand in front of a mirror and actually in the end, I tell people actually not to stand in front of a mirror and do it because I'd much rather people get engaged with the feeling sensation than just seeing themselves. Put something on whatever it might be. But there's a couple of things though, that you said I want to talk about first before unpack this one you really said it, well, where it's this this life that you have for the light end the life that you want in that that bridge that people need to walk across many people feel like there is no bridge the Herrmann. How can I even get there? And that's actually one of the super powerful things about using an alter ego or a secret identity is because for me when I'm. Getting called for coming out and helping someone it's typically because they need help right now when it comes to sport like they have the US open starting on Saturday, and I'm getting called on a Wednesday, and all those other strategies that you're gonna use a people long-term like I mean, meditation. I mean, I was talking about meditation people in nineteen ninety seven when yoga wasn't even cool in one thousand nine hundred. And so, you know, but you know, getting someone to start meditating on a Wednesday. That's not going to deliver the results right away. That's a long term thing. And so I was getting I'm I'm paid to make quick changes of people in the alter ego strategy was always Mike core one that I would go to and it's because there's something powerful. It happens psychologically when it comes to change and making change happen. What most people have been teaching for the longest time is the idea that you know, if you need to change hate well change is hard. And of course, change is hard. But you've got this iron will that's. Side of you that can make it happen. And that's true. We do have an iron will it's amazing what the human spirit can withstand and go through. However, meeting force with force change is a force, especially if it's a massively resistant force for you like doing something that's really hard for you and China beat it with willpower or just grit rarely actually wins. However, tapping into the one thing that truly we as human beings are gifted with over anything else on this planet is our creative imagination that is one of the things that really does make us unique. And so what an alter ego does is it's tapping into that real superpower that we do have which can create what I call suspended disbelief the moment that you actually start embodying the characteristics of Oprah or lorry or whoever that other wherever that alter ego or secret down, you might be you are circumventing your own narrative in your own story because we all play the whole Glock Crassus green on the other side. Right while lorries life is easier, and she doesn't have to struggle with the same things. I am. So that's who I'm going to go in step into and now, it can more gracefully navigate these you know, tasks or goals, or you know, things that I'm trying to chase down. It's amazing. What I've seen happen with people when they really step into it. And so this idea of that, you know, where you are. And where you want to get to end that bridge that gap. That's there the way to think about it is that that alter ego is like a trusted friend, which is actually what Cicero who was the first person to ever mention the term alter ego back in forty four BC said, he's like the alter ego is the other I or a trusted friend. And if you mentioned that the the alter ego is standing on the other side of where you wanna go that extraordinary role is what I call it inside the book, and is now going to pull you there help you get you pass some of that resistance. So that you don't need to fight it. So. Hard and just to think of it. I mean, that's how I thought about it. And it and it helped me I mean, again, it took me a long time to get past the demons that I was you know, battling. But I didn't wanna quit on what my goals, and my dreams were therapy definitely helped in the end and everything, but I didn't wanna I didn't wanna wait and sit on the sidelines of life before something shifted and change. So so so to help others kind of tap into this and talk with the process in the book and more than that though. I talk about you know, the science behind this. And and why and and other people that have used it. But there's a principal to kind of get to the whole you're talking about the glasses, and I got glasses or just one one tool that we use there is a psychological principle called enclosed cognition. Okay. I don't know have you gotten to the point in the book where I talked with that yet Lor. I don't think so. Okay. So you're gonna love this enclosed Cauquenes. 'cause I mean, I know you how much you loved netting out on the psychology of this stuff close cognate. Is this principle in our lives where we as human beings, we ascribe meaning to things, and what happens is whatever something means. Whatever narrative we have around that thing. And if we put it on we actually start to act through whatever that thing is that we put on and just give an example. So there was a great study that was done at the Kellogg school of management, and what they did was they brought in a bunch of students into a room and have you ever seen one of those alike sort of mind puzzles, where you've got the word of color, but the color that it's in is different than the word where it's like the word is green, but it's a pink colored pink. And there's like the next one is like blue. But it's Golic colored in yellow and stipulate a five by five grid of five words going across and five down. And so twenty five total boxes with the word of color, and then it being colored differently. And the challenge is to say the color of. The word. So because it screws you up because you're looking at the color yellow. But at the word is green. And you gotta you gotta try to get your way through this quickly as you can't. So anyways, bring these students into this room, and they, you know, get them to do the test, and they record all the results, and then they leave and in the next group they bring in is a group, and they hand them a white coat, and when the hand in the white coat, they tell them it's a painter's coat, and so they put on the painters coat and they do the same test. And until the record all those stats, and then they bring in another group in the next group. They hand him the exact same white coat except this time they tell them that it's a lab coat or a doctor's coat, and then they record those results will when you take a look at the people who were wearing the painters code persist regular street. Clothes. Do you think that there is any difference in the results again, what they're protesting for was focusing concentration the amount at which is basically tracked by how many mistakes that they're making? And they were tracking how long it took them to do it. So. What do you think if what result would be different between the painters code people in just the regular street? Clothes. I feel like if I was thinking through the lens of a painter that I'd be looking for color now to see color. I so I would think it would be better. Okay. So the reality is nothing changed. It was the same results. And then when you took a look at the stats from people who were told that it was a lab coat now, it's the exact same white coat, right? As the painters coat is just told they were just told it's a lab coat or a doctor's coat. Those people did it in half the time, and they did it in. They made they made exactly fifty two percent. I believe it was less mistakes with it. And that's because when you take a look at when someone hands you put you put on a lab coat your in clothing yourself in the cognitive state of someone who's focused. Trade who's detail orientated. So now, you're entire behavior has changed like you have changed. And that's the magical part of what human beings can do is we act through these things all the time. But what's funny about this is then they did another another test with them. And it was a creative test. What do you think happened when they were told that it was if they had a patriots cut on Wright, express, more creativity? They they were better at the this tested and the people who were wearing the lab coat. They had the exact same results as the people who were wearing the plain clothes. So why this matters is every single person listening has something in their life that when they put it on could comfort them is something that maybe it was handed down by their grandmother. And maybe they have some great story about who their grandmother was or whatever I mean, I've got I've got an Anna a grandmother who you know, both of them. Definitely there's a huge resonant emotion for me with who they were. In fact, like. My nanna, which was my mom's. Mom, I always felt like she was the only one who got me. My Papa her husband. I always like butted heads with him. And then as I grew older, I realized oh, we were the exact same person. And that's why nanna could actually deal with me with more grace than other people could. But anyway, what I was trying to get to was that. If you do have something that's like that where it doesn't clothes a lot of. Meaning what if you started using that as a way of activating the superhero characteristics or traits of the person that you got them from? 'cause now you're gonna start to include yourself in the cognitive traits of that person. And so for me, that's why we're in those glasses I- I created as much meaning as I possibly could. So that I could include myself in the traits that I truly did want to embody. This is so powerful. Because I I literally I love that you have a book on this. Because I talk about this all the time, especially at my events where I get you know, there's like five hundred women in a room who all wanna do something with their life. And I think that some of the biggest shifts are in the smallest things in overlook, and I always tell them like I could never be on the stage. If I just woke up didn't have all of those these tricks in my pocket in the tricks. Are exactly what you're saying. Like, I even switched like three years into doing this event to changing how I dress because I was like, wow, I am not embodying the character who would show up superpower fli in this faith, and I was getting it was expecting me. So I started dressing in Mike what I pictured as this really like powerfully feminine person would dress it completely. I'm not even kidding had. So many people say oh my God. Not only did it visually affect me. But I could tell that you were acted in new completely changed. So I made it like a ritual when I was getting dressed like this. It was like a costume. So that's been super super powerful. It's basically like my version of the glasses like in even how you're dressing. And I'll tell you that the other things that you're talking about too. When I'm preparing for things, I will watch a watch performers so whether it's a singer or whether it's beyond say or something like that. And then I will watch comedians, and I will listen to Eminem, and I'll watch Oprah, and I'm like getting ready to embody each characteristic in my mind. So I literally do this all of the time will in. Here's the thing. Like, I said in the book is, yeah, I'm the first person who's written a book on this? Because that was what I kept on hearing in the publishing world when I was going through and having all these meetings. We had we had we had we had set a record in the publishing space by having nineteen publishers wanting this book and. His amazing, by the way. I just have to say how. And so. And I'm not saying that about, you know, bragging about if for my purposes, I'm just that that is that is way more as less to do a Todd and has way more to do with the power of the idea. And it was so funny because I'd be in those conversations in it'd be like why hasn't this book been written like, we know him? And I said, well, you know, I I think it's because it's been danced around. But no one finally coda fide in because again, I've worked with people one on one over sixteen thousand hours that's one on one true, you know, coaching and advising and mentoring people. And so when you work that many hours of people you now actually get a lot of data, and you get to see truly what are those kind of little levers that are being pulled in. This was one of those little rivers that was moving big boulders for people, and you know, and I'm excited because like I say it like you had that experience. But the great thing about this is I'm only reminding people of something that all of you already know about this is built into the human condition. We all did. This as kids naturally, we played with personas we played with ideas, we were nurse or a doctor or a chef or a wonder woman, superman or whoever one day, and it was natural. And then over time we start to develop this narrative of alive got a girl. Upper people tell you to grow up for what it means to be a, quote, unquote, adult, and we start to lose that really powerful gift that we have which is our imagination to create worlds for ourselves that we get to grow into. And this has nothing to do because I know one of the natural objections that comes up from people is wasn't is in this being fake. And I don't wanna be inauthentic, and and really authenticity is about you. Having your real results be a reflection of who you truly are on the inside. Nothing more frustrating to a person than when you put your head on a pillow at the end of the day. And you are like why didn't I say what I wanted to say to that person? Why didn't I? Do what I wanted to do. Why didn't I say to my mom when I was leaving. I love you like, why do I have those hangups that's being in authentic because we judge ourselves then on that performance as opposed to if we're simply leveraging and getting Oprah to help me get on the field as I know. I can that's the most real and authentic you that there is. I read a quote in your book that I loved and talking about and you touched on it just a little bit was your imagination can build extraordinary worlds in ordinary world's who've already been doing this. And here's a reminder that playfulness doesn't stop at eight years of age. It's a pathway of handling life with more grace. I lo- I love that. Because ultimately, we're constantly. We're building our future in our imaginations, can you kind of speak to the difference between the extraordinary world in the ordinary world. And what does it take to build bat? I really second. But you you brought up, you know, there's a lot of different parts of the book. But why did that particular thing resonate with you though? Oh, okay. Because I really I believe we're always building a case in a story at all times. So I'm always looking at what my thoughts are thinking. And what I'm what I'm feeding like what what version of my life. Do I wanna build because I truly know that it's? All it's always just whatever I want like it's all made up anyway. So I might as well make up a powerful world to live in. Yeah. Yeah. I mean for me that was I mean that that part of the book, it's so funny that you pick that out because you know, the destruction that I had just trying to, you know, move through life myself was that was my reminder to myself was that it was more of like, you know, I'm not an affirmation person. But it was more of like if I continue to do this. I'll be able to conquer all those in slay all those dragons that I was carrying an, you know, truly gets a place where life was more playful again, and and graceful in being able to use an alter ego to help navigate that stuff allowed me to circumvent those issues that I had had an balancing out of my head when I'm talking about the ordinary and extraordinary world is inside a chapter number three. I share kind of the model that explains why this is so powerful in. I wanted to give people a framework when I was writing the book that took the alter ego effect or just the idea of all three goes in secret entities, even deeper to show people. How how deep and resonant is actually is at the core of of who we are. And so I talk about how there's there's many layers for how our identity our how our identity gets shaped. And there's this core part if you think of it like the earth's crust being cut open house, sometimes you get to see like how the earth is shaped. And that's kind of how the model is built inside the book. And so at our very core is this place of just like powerful possibility where creativity sits where that imagination sits. Or you could say love and gratitude all those powerful emotions, and then from there we start to get shaped our identity starts to get shaped. And the next layer something called the core driver layer core drivers are things like, you know, the country that you live in. That's a core driver your family things that are very deep and resonant things that are larger than typically ourselves. Our family is bigger than just one person or countries bring the one person your religion, or your spiritual practice, or whatever you're values. Which sound like it's an individual thing. But your values are always the very thing that does shape your character. So in that we can actually a lot of times act through parts of our core drivers that we don't even realize like is something as simple as will my family has never been an entrepreneur. So why would I be an entrepreneur? So that's a story in the narrative that's getting shaped at a cordray earlier and beyond that layer. The next layer is our beliefs are attitudes things that we've now adopted in learned over time. And you know, I always challenge people like a belief is your belief, but it's not a truth might cause nor for something to be a truth. And that's true for me and true for you. That's a truth by unite can both be walking on the side sidewalk. And we're both walking on concrete. And I'm like, well, that's true that is concrete. But you know, someone that says all people from Ohio are terrible with money. Well. That's not true. Oh, wait a second. Listen, I don't want hate mail from people from Ohio Ohio p. It was money. That's gold. That's your vote to by the way. That's gonna young the social media. Thank you very much. So so yes issue. Our beliefs are attitudes. Get shaped about who. And what we are the world. What about the world and ourselves? And then the next layer is where it's the layer of action. And that's where our behaviors are the skills developed, our knowledge, our belief layer can doubt our skills doubt. Our knowledge imposter syndrome starts to go in where we dismiss our winds to dismiss the cheap that we've had in life and worry that we're going to be found out, quote, unquote. And the final layer is the layer of like circumstance situation is our field of play. It's you know, hey, I can speak really well, but I can't speak in front of an audience of thousand. Now, that's a circumstance, and I'm gonna I wanna that's a belief that someone has about that circumstance. Anyway in that in that entire model. I talk about how there's an ordinary world that's created in it. And there's an extraordinarily credit and an ordinary world that people are. Experiencing right now is a world where you keep on getting trapped by the circumstances around you buy the beliefs by not uncovering sort of peeling back the onions on you know, are those things that I'm acting through it accord driver layer in the book, I try to really unpack for people that can really get clarity about themselves. And how they're how it's truly shaping how they're showing up so that we can remove it from our quickly. And so the ordinary world is it gives sensation that because it's ordinary because I'm not showing up like, I know that I can I'm not pursuing the things that I really want to. I'm not started that business Ivan started that creative practice of painting or writing or I haven't started that practice of deepening relationship with my significant other because I want them to start at I even though I know at my core. That's not the right way to do it. Right. There's this. There's this massive wisdom that we have at our core that when we tap into it we actually and we Start Act. Getting through it. We unlock a heroic self and that heroes self starts to create an extraordinary will not because that world is easier. It same things happen to people who are living in an extraordinary world. But they stay really far more connected to who. And what they wanna show up on the field of play of life. They're acting through a lot more powerful intention, and it's no longer shaped by me trying to impress other people. It's me knowing who I am and what I want, and I'm gonna play this life in this game through those rules my rules and show up. And then what I say to people is it might be one thing to know that and maybe that releases that heroic self, but for other people they still have that tinge of self doubt. And that's where an alter ego or secret identity are playing with persona can help draw up those personality traits and skills that you want. So I I know that I can definitely trace. Mine I think this is probably everyone to but going back to the core driver, you know, the family values the environment like those those can feel like, you know, you said beliefs, but those can feel like truth sometimes. So like, separating when you have the I know there's a lot of people who are still in the environment that reflects back to them, what feels like a belief. What would you say to people who are like, oh, man? This is a deep rooted like this is so deep let's say, maybe it's religion. Let's say it's family. So it's like you're gonna either go through some pain, or you're not even sure if it's truth for you, even though deep down, you do know, what are the steps in like getting to the real deep root in being able to work through if you're if you feel you're imprisoned by a belief of maybe your family struggles with money, let's say, no. Yeah. Well, so one thing is is just knowing that the human spirit has such a phenomenal capacity to withstand struggle and trauma. And I'm not saying that there's going to be not ever go through deep trauma. But just know that there is that you know, the fact that you've been listening to this podcast shows that there is an extraordinarily. Deep and resonant toughness and strength to you. And there is literally nothing on the horizon that could beat that as someone who has gone through a lot. And that's probably in some ways. What made me really good with the people that I've worked with is that I've got extraordinarily high level of empathy, and I will never spew a bunch of self-help crap that isn't based in truth because I think that's a responsibility that everyone should have is to debase things in something beyond just provocation or something like that. But it is that is that just know that and that alone can help a lot of people. But when you're in it that can feel tough to do. But the fact that you're still breathing shows that you've got an amazing fortitude. But more than that, here's one thing. I want to make very clear to people is the I think one thing that the personal development in the self help space has done a disservice with and it's no one's. Fault. I don't think it's it's the name itself self help personal development. If you want to lead a life where you are the one who gets to stand at the top of the mountain and say, I conquered this with no one around you that is an empty existence. You were doing it way harder than you ever need to do. And so knowing this what I would then encourage how you move through. This stuff is with the help of his many allies as you can get as many trusted allies as you can get I'm constantly hunting for even better quality people that I can get myself around not because I think that people that I'm with are not quality. It's just that. It's only gonna make me that much more valuable to the people that I like to serve or to my own family. I've got three little kids, and I want to be as valuable to them as possibly can. But. You know, as someone who's and you've gone through this as someone who's going through the, you know, the early the final stage of launching a book into the world. You cannot launch a book onto the world and make it a splash without the help of a lot of superhero. Friends too short for you a lot of allies. And it's such a great metaphor for every other great achievement that we're all trying to go through as China. Do something on your own is just a fantastic recipe for depression isolation. And and so your the more that you share where you wanna go with other people that, you know, are also people who liked to strive to do big things as well, man. The more you're giving yourself an opportunity for just some sort of miracle the show for you, some amazing opportunity that you couldn't have tried to, you know, sketch out or, you know, put down on a task list because someone opens up like, oh, I know that person let me open up through for you. Faye, man. So it's not the answer because many people are like, okay. Well, because everyone goes through all the grit and the willpower, and I'm saying, no someone who has learned the hard way. Sometimes it's that it was so silly of me in what I take a look at those years where I didn't grow in business or self as much as other years. It was I I invited myself. I did not share with people where I was trying to go. I didn't share people the thing I was struggling with because good human beings, which is by the way. Despite what it feels like it is in the media is by far and away, the vast majority of human beings on this planet. They love to help other people. I wanna lever tat, and it's so funny, right. Because when you're on a diet the chances of you breaking your own diet are extremely high. However, and this is what I did as as a practical example, because I did some fitness competitions back in my late twenties and early thirties. And when my my best friend, Mike, and I would go out for lunch together. He would order for me. And I would order for him. Awesome. Because I'm I I want to see him succeed. He's my best friend. So I'm going to order the best thing for him. And he's gonna do the same thing for me. Wow. That's so interesting in so true as a practical because I know this is your crowd as well. Isn't it? I did a challenge in one of my one of my communities where we I asked people to pair up, and I asked them to plan out each other's weak get to know their business and plan out that other person's week. Early. It was the most productive effective game changing breakthrough weeks of all of those people's lives who participated because that other person is going to put the thing on your calendar that they know is going to help you succeed, and they don't live with your resistance. They don't live with your negative beliefs or your own traps that you've got to saying practically this is what you need to do. And then the fact that you're out of the person is reciprocating and doing it for them. You don't wanna let each other down on my guys. That's so good. Early. Like, I'm going to do that in this group that I do. With these other women because that's so brilliant. It's so easy to pull in your story. All the time. And let's going to be way that's going to be in the way in. It's just not why. Why do you think we why do we always go back to isolating ourselves? It's a story. That's just been consistent over the course of time where it's you know, you feel like you're the only one who's going through that. And then Secondly, it's that you don't want to bother someone else. Like, no one wants to be a quote unquote burden by sharing that. But you know, as someone who has problems in situations and circumstances presented to him every single day. 'cause that's what I do for a living. It's only a burden. I think if someone wants to sit inside of it and just talk about it for very long time. But for me. I'm never bothered by it because I know that the person is they're just they're they're they're struggling with it. But they're struggling with it because they're trying to break free of it. Right. You know, it's it's when soon as I have a friend who I'm I'm not seeing struggling with something. That's when I get concerned because complacency and apathy are extraordinarily dangerous. Right. Because as soon as you have complacency soon as you have apathy or the next step is very dangerous, which is where hope is lost. And when hope is lost. That's when people do things that are way beyond outside of their character. So as soon as I have someone around me care for that goes quiet on me. And again, I know this so well because I know what I did. And while I'm gonna una ping them right away. So it's what it's why one of the practices. I've had since not why. But it's one of the great benefits of this practice. So since I was twenty two. I've written a handwritten note every single day five days a week. So I've written over forty six hundred personal letters to people. So if I read a book, I'm gonna send that author a note, and it's going to sound like, you know, I'm hi Laurie. We've never had the pleasure of meeting before. But I wanted to sit down and send you this this note of appreciation for doing the hardest thing I think is out there, which is putting words on paper and writing a book, and specifically I wanted to thank you for what you said on page seventy six, and then I'll put in what you said on page seventy six and I'll finish up with you know, that really shifted a paradigm that was in my head. So thank you for doing this. I wish you the best taught Herman, and I don't say, hey, if you ever New York City sometime, let's get some coffee or something like that. But the number the number one responses I've gotten back from people, but you have no idea how much needed to get this today. Wow. Wow. In totally not suspecting that her expecting that. Yeah. You enemy and I've written letters to. I'm completely unfiltered. I mean, I've sent letters off to Daniel Day-Lewis Philip Seymour Hoffman. Who unfortunately committed suicide Ronald Reagan and Nancy Reagan. They were actually one of my first twenty letters. I sent and they they all responded back. I got letters back on presidential letterhead. And all that. And yeah, the most consistent response back was you have no idea how much needed to get the site. Thank you. Well, so the daily thing that you do it's like a handwritten note that you send just something grateful for everyone in this community would would know well about the the practice of, you know, people talk about, you know, gratitude journals or whatever. And so this is this is my way of taking gratitude and magnifying it by passing it onto someone else. What do you think that's done for your life? Well, I mean, it's it's definitely kept me rooted in connected when I've gone through challenging times because that feedback loop that I'm consistently getting back because I'm writing every day, and you know, tried to pursue some tough things and challenging things and all that and getting that feedback loop constantly closing where. I've made someone else feel good not kept me going to say, you know, his completely morbid or anything like that. But it it really really helped, you know, fuel me, and maybe wanna do it even more. And yeah, it was in just having. That's how I start the day. And it just kind of anchors into a good place. So I know writing a book like is just such a journey of ups and downs in. Oh, I can't even I talk about it a lot on this podcast. So I think a lot of people. But so I'm always just I I love hearing the process because I think it's also just a part of the book. So for you what what came up for you on the days where you were either struggling or you had imposter syndrome or more like oh my God, I'm halfway through or whatnot. Can you share some of the struggles with us in? How you got through. Oh boy. I mean, this is just full transparency. It was the hardest thing I've ever done professionally because a the the method used when building out an alter ego people wasn't a step by step process because it doesn't need to be that way. And even will actually get this in a second how I kinda ended up solving it and so. I was working with a a ghostwriter to help unpack the book, and she's had multiple newer times bestselling books. She was amazing to work with. And I mean, we had a lot of days where I'm like, we would pack some amazing content and fall down a rabbit hole. And and then and then I'm like, but that doesn't need to go in the book. Amazing. But it doesn't need to go in the book because it's going to overcomplicate the idea, and what I really want to make sure that this honors is the fact that this can be light. Like, I mean, I think you've seen so far in the book, I concentrate at least bring it back to, hey, by the way, we can be playful with this. And some people are definitely using this as a way to overcome, you know, some terrible hurts or some trauma, and that is one way that people have used it. Other people say David Bowie who experimented with like saying using it for like Ziggy stardust was using it as a way of expressing different creative self for themselves. But you know on those days where it was. Was challenging. I can't. I'm you know, it would be great. If I gave someone some phenomenal tip that, you know, this is how I conquered it. But sometimes it just stepped away from it. That was one thing I needed to do just to get some perspective. I will say that. My wife was phenomenal. I'm super lucky in that. I I married my biggest fan, and you know, she she never loses that doubt and talk to her about it. And you know, just just unpacking with her. I'd get pops of insight and actually that was when I am like, oh, wait a second. Todd. Don't forget that's your rhythm talk it out with other people, and then you're going to find your breakthroughs. So there was there was that part? And reality was when I sat down with my editor after the first draft was given to him. And and he was giving me some advice, and he would kind of give me some general advice, but it wasn't specific. And finally, I'm like, Eric. I. I need like this isn't helpful for me like first time author here. You know, I I'm business owner, I'm adviser. I don't I don't write for living and again like Eric works with Malcolm clad. Well, he Simon cynics mentor like the guy has got some serious shops. So I said you can't keep on telling me to write more like milk. I'm glad well, that's not helpful to me. And and so anyways, he gave me some advice in at the very end, which I will never forget this. This will forever. Be burned in my mind as a subject line that I'll never forget. Which is in all caps at on. August the eighth he said pencils down. And I'll never forget that. Because it was he was saying, hey, we're done. There's no more edits to this book. It's it's good to go and in. But in that he sent his UB kind of unpacked the last few months. He said, you know, you asked me if you months ago, what you needed to do more of to make your writing even better and the answer was you just needed to write more in draughts, which goes back to like the stuff that you're gonna talk. What people would all talk with is this staying gauge with the process, I staying with the process you're going to in the end went out because you're constantly gonna be getting better and better and better. And and again, I use an all three go when I wrote Charles Bukowski who's a famous fiction writer, if the classic kind of guy who drank a lot. And I was like I wanted to be that when I was kind of playing this role of being an author. Oh my God. I'm just gonna like needs to just replay replay. Because it's this it applies to everything that we just talked about in it it also I think is it's just taking taking a new journey that you've never taken before. Which a lot of people is going to be what you're what you're talking about. Here is also goes back to having let it be fun. It's gonna be hard. But also give yourself so much grace Danamon. Imagine the grace that you had to pull in throughout the writing processes well. What I will say once I started getting into it. I fell in love with the I fell in love with this other side of myself. I always described myself as a coach and advisor, and I've got a really great friend. I don't know do you know Jonathan fields is. Yes. Yes. So good life. Yeah. Exactly, we we're actually talking about you today. Anyway, so him, and I and two other guys here New York City we were in a dad mastermind together. So we all run businesses, and we get other six weeks. We just talk about, you know, the dad's side of us and then also being business owners. Awesome. And yeah in it's been phenomenal. And Jonathan he has this great framework and way of thinking like a bandwidth where at one end of the band is a maker and at the other end of the band is a helper. And so when we met even though we're very very similar at our core are characterize were the same person almost. But then how we express ourselves in the world is very different. He's very quiet methodical, and they're much deep deep thinker. And I'm way more kind of gregarious and outgoing and stuff. So anyways, he was like when he when he explained it. He said, yeah, I'm I'm one hundred percent maker. And I said all that's so funny because. I'm a helper. Then so fast forward to after the book is done in him and are sitting down having breakfast together here in New York, we were kind of talking about the process and just some shifts that had happened for me through it. I said man like through the process, I think I realized that I'm actually one hundred percent a maker. I'm far more maker than I ever thought. And and he said, it's so funny you say that 'cause I've known that all along. You are your arms maker. So it's what the gift that the book gave me was now pursuing this other kind of know next decade of my life will be doing a lot more of that kind of stuff and not as much coaching as I've and advising and mentoring as I've done in the past. I I love hearing these stories because there's so much for the people listening. There's so many parts of them in so many pads that they have no idea that are gonna bring like so much massive just basically you for you. Because I know that it sounds to me like you found what I found just like these little moments of euphoria where you're like more attached to like, your creator, whatever you believe earth like than you've ever been in. You're like, wait a minute. Actually, who I am like you're creating that is what it's just the coolest. I it's just the coolest journey ever. So before we part 'cause I could literally I had to hold back like talking. So that you so that we could learn even more is to be like a four hour podcast for me. By the way, gang. I mean Laurie night. We've had many many people mentioned Lori to me over the last couple of years. And I think had mentioned the same thing before as well. And this is the very first time we've ever talked together, and we were on together for about five minutes before this, and yeah, you you're already an old friend. I literally there's there's so much. So we're going to have to pick that up on. Because I have notes to remember certain. But I wanna know who when you picture this because I know that there's so much in the his now you're getting into the marketing side right in that's getting into the hands. Because you have Ford your soul into this book in there is like, you know, the value of it. I know the value of it who is this for. Well, this is for those people who are ambitious achievers wanting more than what they may have in more doesn't mean consumption of more more might mean. Actually, subtraction deleting stuff that shouldn't be there. And that actually is when I talk about because I live in the world of high performance one of the principles that we talk about is performances, actually, a subtraction, deletion and removal process. More than ever is an additive process. So many people try to wanna add more. But if you think about climbing any mountain, the people who are going to take the longest up are the ones who try to pack as much as they possibly can on their back and drag it up with them, whereas the people who are going to get their still fashion or without overwhelming and tying themselves are the ones who can unpack a lot. And so that for me is that could be achieved for people achievement. Could be just letting go stuff that you don't need to carry anymore or. Could be people that wanna be. I mean, I use. I talked about the alter ego that use for me being a parent. The last thing that my little kids. Need got a five year old four year old and a two year old fussing need is this confident decisive and articulate version of Todd that shows up in business what they want is the fun playful and get on the ground and muck around version, and so we can all get caught up in our own day. Like, you know, there's a lot of energy that goes into running a business and doing the stuff that we do. So when you end up going home to them, you can rob them of that energy 'cause you could be tired, and that's not fair to them. So before I walk through the door here. Just stop for a second just to make sure I remember I'm going onto a new field. Who do I wanna be on that field? Now, I don't mean to do it because it's just unconscious, but you know, as a new dad I needed to do that. And when I walk in the door there, there's a little hook where my daughter, Molly made a small little bracelet for me a couple years ago, and it has m s Molly. Charlie and I put it on. And that's my totem. That's my artifacts. That's my Berge of my classes where not so I wanna embody and and who lives in that again. That's that include cognition is Mr. Rogers, and I don't know if anyone here has watched the Mr. Rogers won't you be my neighbor documentary, which it's amazing to watch it literally a third of that documentary is about alter egos, and they talk about how his famous hand puppet, which is Daniel tiger. Which is now a famous cartoon his wife talks about how Daniel tiger was his alter ego, which was really the truest reflection of who he felt he really was and he acted himself through Daniel tiger. And so that's you know, it's because there's moments where it's like you can easily respond in react, you know, emotionally. But just having that idea will how would mister Rogers do this while I'm gonna get down on one knee because he always got down on Monday. He would always talk I level. You know, Sophie my middle one. She's got this fantastic emotional bandwidth. But just call it that. She kept kicking go off pretty fast. On and me-meeting again. Like, I said at the very beginning meeting force with force right Kerr force of her energy with my force of being that dominating parent. That's like going to yell and scream back. It doesn't work. So I if because that's what I was. I was making that mistake, and I shifted and mister Rogers would just get down in. He would probably embrace Rinker hug, and it's amazing. How what would typically have been a five to twelve minute meltdown goes to eighteen to thirty seconds because that's all she needs. Is that? So, you know, the the application of this is so universal and people have used it to help them, you know, bring their heroic self on many different stages, many different fields, whatever that might be. I love that. And I found so many parts of that. I can't wait to read it in its entirety. What what you talked about the end for finding wherever you're at in the journey like for me right now, it is the taking away unjust. I love that. I was reading part of that yearbook. Just the confirmation. Also, I think it's important to when you're in that space, you know, we can be so attached to different identities and just also learning about oh, you can switch it like that. Actually, doesn't doesn't matter. We can choose you know, how we feel into make a good day. You can do it through this process as well. So I love that. And I just want to dislike knowledge you for how you've shown up in the world as such amazing teacher, and you have this beautiful ability to take those really big topics. And make them super easy to understand and varied bite size. So I'm so grateful for that. Which is probably challenging at times. That's my favorite thing. I mean, I'm dyslexic. So that's kind of one of the superpowers of people who've got dyslexia is I think in pictures, and so what it does it allows me to maybe see things sort of chunk things up a little bit into like, what's the what's the big picture here. Like the moment you pull me down in the weeds oil that overwhelms me if you wanna fantastic way to make anxious than definitely put me down at the details of something. One of my superpowers, definitely shaping context for people in you know, and I love that. Because I think when was powerful gifts you can ever give someone isn't necessarily motivation isn't confidence because both of those things are born out of clarity, someone gets clarity. All that fog gets lifted. Now when they're standing at the entrance to the forest if there's fog in there. No one's gonna run into that forest headlong and as fast as they can. But when you remove that fog, and it lifts up, and they can see a path forward. Now, the confidence shows up and the motivation or the momentum and all that stuff. So that's kind of what I'm always focused on is. How can I help someone get more clarity around this? So they can see it differently shift the paradigm or get a new perspective. And and then now they can move forward. Oh, a man when I'm not clear like debilitated. It's yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. So a man so okay for for your book, where do you want us to go to go grab it because you guys literally this will be a book that will help you not only get clarity. But will absolutely impact in change your life because it's not something that has to take a long time to start doing some home. Should we go to? Well. I mean, yeah, they can go to Amazon they can go to alter ego affect dot com and click on we've got all the links ready for people. So it redirects them properly to the Amazon stores around the world or the Barnes and noble stores or wherever they wanna go buy from. If you wanna go to your local bookstore and all that kind of stuff. But if they go to alter ego dot com, the links are all there for people to go out and grab it wherever their preferred places on my gosh, I love that in in. Here's the deal that we have so many overachievers on here. So for the overachievers if you want to leave a review or text this episode to a friend that can be like your a+ plus credit. As an author in. I always like to share this because we have so many people who listened this who want to be an author. They wanna be a speaker as an author. It takes a massive community to get it out there. So if you do love, it just take one extra second and share it or text it and make sure your friends reading it with you and started book club just getting. And take me like take me. Let me know if. Tag me on social media. I'm on Instagram, Facebook and all those other places that everyone else hangs out as well. So yeah, I mean, it's like you said, I mean, if you can do this book with someone else to again, that's where you're uniting that superpower alliance of bringing other people into an extraordinary world with you. Oh, yes. And they know all about that. So I'm hoping that they all started that. So okay, always end on one last question. I ready. Let's do it. Okay. So you have like thirty seconds in passing with a stranger. Whether you're on the street or an elevator. And they look at you in the ask you how can I make myself happy? What do you say? How can I make someone? How can I make myself happy? Yeah. I think there'd be two things. I would say back to them. I know it's gonna be two things is one sit down and write a note to someone thanking them for the way that they make you feel and how they've impacted you in some way. That's okay. And number two would be to go out and find someone that you do not know and hey them an anaesthetist compliment. So that one sounds strange some people the first one is the easiest to the second one though, I think that if there was a championship for being or finding the world's best elevator. Conversationalist? I think I would probably win that battle. My question is is I I love getting the elevator. And I do this every day. I mean living in New York City because we're always in elevators it makes it easy. But I love getting the elevator and destructing conversations, and I always will reference something that's situational. So if Laurie if you get on the elevator with me, I might look down on be like new shoes. And it's insane. How many times someone respond back on my God? Yes, they are to them. Mike, you're rocking them. Those are outstanding. And and what you do for that person. In that moment, they are floating on a cloud for the rest of the day. Because again, don't forget so many people not everybody. But so many people go out in the world feeling insecure about themselves in if I can Pat can stack one more little poker chip of confidence onto their side of the table. I don't know. You know, the domino without my drop for them that day, so just paying someone a just random compliment about something in and it's even something as simple as just just today. A mean where my offices. There's a pizza place downstairs guy got in with a slice of pizza and an always Toomas like pizza day. And he's like, oh my God, man. There's a long weekend and we just got chatting about stuff in. And I said, oh, have you tried this pizza place? Anyway, it was fifteen second conversation. But for someone I could I could just tell it was like one of those days in if it was ten seconds where made them. Then and makes again for me, it's so selfish makes me feel better. I literally when I'm when I'm open to that. And when I'm doing that. I swear I have like a my day gets ninety percent better in. It's true. Someone just gave me a random compliment on Monday that I'm still carrying with me. It's wednesday. So. So it can pick it up with serious affect Tony. I'm so grateful for you. I cannot wait to have the physical copy of your book in my hand. And I just think that this is going to be I think this. We're just gonna claim it here that it's going to be an amazing book launch in all of the things are going to be incredible with this, folks. So thank you for coming on. Don't you think? You'll I appreciate this. As as you know, this stuff is is not easy to do. And to have someone like you come along and share your platform in your tribe with this message is very much. Appreciate it. So thank you. We are the blessed ones today. So thank you. And you guys if you love this podcast as much as I did make sure you share with your friends and until next time earn your happy by ruin. Thank you so much for spending this time with me on the earn your happy podcast. I am. So glad that you stopped by if you could take one second to share this episode with someone you think would love it. That would be absolutely amazing. And we would be forever grateful. 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PMS 2.0 075 - We Run Wild With JJ Watt

The Pat McAfee Show 2.0

1:33:45 hr | 1 year ago

PMS 2.0 075 - We Run Wild With JJ Watt

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Two time NFL sacks leader and a hell of a philanthropist. Now, he's an executive producer of a TV show. A host of a TV show, he's taking over the world while saving it, ladies and gentlemen, just in James. J J watt. Thank you. Hey, no problem. All that's true though. That's an insane resume to think about I was watching your Wisconsin commencement speech, which you did incredible. By the way, I assume you're a tried to trying to just keep pace with you after what you did at the NFL draft. Well, I think you're much more motivating than I was, which is smart move, were you nervous as hell for that? You know, I honestly wasn't I was excited about it, and I would have been nervous, if I had to write it down, and I would have been nervous, if they made me read off a prompter like initially they talked about, unless they gave me the okay to just kind of talking through it off the top of my head, and I wasn't as nervous because I knew what I wanted to say, you know, you freestyle that you look so calm and collected. I'd no idea that was just off the top of the head. That's incredible save. You talk slow enough and give yourself enough pauses, you can come up with anything. That's my way. I just wanted to make them laugh. I mean, it's I'm from Wisconsin, so light, it's the easiest thing felt like I was at home. If only I was talking to a bunch of my family members. I mean you talk about spotted cow. You talk about cheese earns and you're automatically going to be. Are you happy you went before Robert Smith? Because now I think if you're a rich person you're expected to pay off. I came in and I was thinking, like I was like, all right. I'm not trying to blow the world away here. I'm not going to be on any lists the top ten but maybe for two thousand nineteen I could make like the top five speech of the twenty nineteen and Robert Smith comes along and just wipes the whole map out. Well there, there, there goes that, my, my two thousand nine hundred commencement features getting zero YouTube hits from your hand. Hand really bad timing to he didn't even let you really sit on it for a week. It was like three days later. What baller mover kidding me though? I mean do magin just being able to know that you're going to step up there like whatever you're gonna save before that you can literally say nothing important for ten minutes, and then I haven't fat or student loans. It's insane. You said in that speech, I think the thing that I took away most from it is, when you said that both positive reinforcement and negative reinforcement can be a motivator for you. And you thought back to the night, you redrafted partying with your friends, your high school coaches, your family. Everybody was so proud of you in that night before he went to bed you decided to check the Twitter. And the first thing you saw was the Houston Texan die hard fan at the Houston Texan draft party. Booing obnoxiously directly into the camera out of anger of drafting this white kid from Wisconsin. I took away from that, that you are a massive chip on the shoulder guy. If you say I can't do something I'm going to do it in my right there. Absolutely. Yes. And what you've done since then is go on to become the most dominant football player on the field, whenever you're on it. That has the feel good in how often whenever you're working out because I hear you over workout, by the way, you work out too much. What are what is J J watt? Stay to himself while working out like fuck that guy on draft night. There's a lot of people who think nothing like what is the self motivation to JJ watt to continue getting better? I think there's a lot of that, where you find it from different sources. So obviously medium after that, I had that in my head, I wanted to prove those people, I want to earn their respect and then throughout your career, you find different things, whether it's somebody saying, somebody else's better than your it's somebody has more sacks than you're, it's, there's always something to chase, but I think that over my career, that's probably one of the biggest things that I've learned is that I mean I used to read Twitter all the time I used to read all the stories I used to read all the articles, and I let it mess with me early on because you get mad about it. I'm getting mad about somebody at ESPN who writes an article and says that I'm number two instead of number one I'm getting mad because this person didn't vote for me for defensive player of the year. And I'm like. Finally, I learned I realize, like why do I share why am I here, what this person has to say? I think the injuries really helped me with that because when I was injured for two years in a row, you realize how quickly people forget about you. So why am I putting so much stock in with these people say, when five years after my career, they're not going to care about me? So I, I learned to put my sock into my family, my friends and my teammates, really that was the most fourth thing you now. That's incredible to think of that moment of freedom that you let yourself ad had to be an impressive one. You're reading all these things from people that don't matter saying things about you in that moment of just being like fuck him at had to be a great that, honestly that had to be an incredibly freeing feeling it was huge. It was 'cause I remember early in my injuries. I you know after my first injury ram out for the season, you get people saying he's done. He's never gonna come back. He's never gonna play again. Even if he does is going to be the same that help drove me down. And I was like, Jesus m I tried. And one of the biggest things I'll news my girlfriend, I mean, she literally helped my confidence back up, saying, screw all in. Don't listen to them just go by day by day. And so when I haven't talked in a down day before I had somebody around, every day to help pick me up, it was just me my thoughts and then social media in. So that was another really helpful thing to have her in the house everyday to kind of be a balancing factor, where I'm reading social media, how bad I am or how bad, I'm gonna beat, and she's just like no you're not we're going to be good. Now's like all right. Maybe I will be did you did you 'cause you're very private with your private life, and I don't know if it was a real thing or not. But people are saying you go to bed at, like nine PM. You do this. You don't go out and in your personal life was kind of non existent. And then I remember there was an awkward moment on a red carpet. We don't have to get into where you kind of got put in a bad spot. But then you started dating this professional soccer player named keel. Named who daily Kayla and it seems as if it's almost like you found a missing piece the way you act on social media just me from an outsider's standpoint. It seems like you found like a real yin to your yen. And I it seems like it's a really beautiful operation right now. I appreciate she's great. You know what you're going through earlier in his rear. And you have like I said, social media, you're going to these events. You do all these things in the world Watson. Oh, so much about your personal life. But you're trying to figure it out yourself. So you don't wanna you don't wanna be out there posing doing all these different things when you don't know executive action going. So once I found K in, we I obviously knew that she was special, then you feel comfortable with it, and then you don't feel like you have to be trying to live up to everybody's expectations or what they want. You're just you're comfortable and happy with your life and you share when you want to share you don't when you don't want to, and I mean, that's the biggest. When I come home at the end of the day, if I can make her happy, and she made me have I mean who cares what the world thinks, you know, I respect that so much. And if you make your dog's tail wag, I mean that's all we're looking to do. That's why I'm sitting in my driveway right now because as soon as out garage door, my daughter's gonna go bananas. You wanna talk about a way to not have kids for a long time. Getting a couple of dogs, Amen. Amen, I'm on your team there. Let's go back to the chip on the shoulder. Is that while you left central Michigan? What the Wisconsin, because you thought you were destined for something bigger than us central Michigan. Or is it strictly because you wanted to go back home to Wisconsin? No, I wanted more. I mean I was at central Michigan. I started at tight end there they ran the spread and they had I mean I think I play like fifteen plays a game. Maybe twenty and there was writing on the wall that they wanted to move to offense tackle. So I said, if I'm going to do all this, I'm gonna put in all this work. I mean, you know, how hard is offseason workouts in college, and all those workouts doing classes? I said, if I'm going to his work, I'm gonna take the biggest shot I can take. I'm gonna do on either gonna go bigger. I'm gonna fail in Bank. Flee from my parents, I mean I told him when I was leaving high school. Don't. For college. Paid for in we're middleclass family. I mean so it's not like we're rich inch. They had money in case, I know they started planning for my brothers college is because they thought mine was paid for. So for them to be able to tell me okay we can pay for one year, Wisconsin in allow me to gamble on myself. That was one of the biggest things in the also motivating factor for me. I wasn't only gambling on myself, but I was also proving to my parents, then their investment worth. Oh my God. That's awesome. Butch jones. He was at West Virginia before he got there, such Michigan. What a wild fucking animal. That guy is. Why would you don't have say anything? I will why hold why would why on wild animal, you drafted Houston, a guide booze? And then you just go on to be an absolute game rector on all four downs. Why did you choose his place special teams in fuck up? Everybody's life for a long time. Oh, yeah. Let's talk about it. I mean. You're the most. You're one of the most fun players have ever played against all. I'm hold on. We're gonna clip that, for sure. First of all, if we really want to get deep into things. I'm I'm still set that you didn't get the mind I football him in. We're gonna clip that, too. Thank you. Coming. Just just to see if your brilliance that you would come up with on a weekly basis into, to see. I mean, it would have been the most the most clip worthy program of all time on your side, and that one, you got a big brain economic. Tell I respect that a lot like that. Either bison. For those that aren't watching on YouTube by wanting literally got a huge pump in right before. And because I want to JJ to be impressed with my sleeveless OD. I got one day sleeveless shirt, thingers daily, it's my life. Really? I got kicked out of a lot of places because of it. I love him that will sleeveless shirt and George nothing beats him with. That's my. The riding high, too. Well, he when you got quads you know, you gotta let the world eat let the world now you got him. I'll often do you outside. I just turning the interview on you. I lost you still. Now I'm everyone I'm leaving the options on the table. You know what I didn't get them Monday night football gig. I didn't wasn't certain if I was going to get a big enough media job to keep going because I need a big goal. Right. So I need, like, hey, I got this big thing, not Greenwich podcast massive. We run a business or businesses. Good. But I need something large like in the background that at night. When I lay down, like okay, I also to do this. I gotta focus on this. And when I didn't get the Monday night football giggles. Like, you know, there's a lot of money being dust round people that kick balls, and there's a lotta shitty bulk acres out there right now. So I went out on high school field a few times still kicking like once a week twice a week, I feel good. That's awesome. That's one thing I've learned is I like you look at investment opportunities. Business opportunities to get movies TV everything. We make a lot of money to chase a ball route since pretty damn cool. It's real. You make a mean. I mean you're gonna face. Timing is from your house right now. There is a area fifty one gate right behind. But speaking of a lot of money, whenever the city of Houston needed somebody to really step up big time. You did that. And I was just reading through some stats that you tweeted out after the hurricane after the flood and everything that happened to Houston. It was terrible. It was a national. I mean it was an emergency down there. JJ watt as you heard started a gofundme me basically that took off forty one point six million dollars. It was the final total. He's currently since then it's been one year basically six hundred homes have either been rebuilt or being rebuilding right now. Four hundred twenty childcare centers in the city of Houston sixteen thousand children, being served twenty six million meals have been served in sixty five hundred mental and physical health. Exams have happened just because of a gofundme me that this meathead from Wisconsin started and saved a city, did you feel as if like, hey, I don't really know nobody knows how to act in that situation. But I soon you just said, let's just take one small step here, raise what we can raise. I'll donate a million out match. And then once it gets going. Is there a moment where you're like, oh shit? Like, we really have a real co opportunity you. Yeah. So I mean obviously the initial goal was two hundred grand. I, I knew it I was going to do with that. I was like, all right. I'm going to buy food. I'm going to buy water. I'm gonna to buy toilet paper diapers. I'm gonna buy the stuff that people need. I'm gonna go distribute it and communities. And then as you saw me it, it literally took on a life of its own. I mean, the very first night that it happened is starting to get up to five hundred grand, the website cut crashing. We literally had a private detective, Jit, the phone number of the creator of you, caring dot com called in at his home house and had to get him out of his bed. He went in figuring out how to get the website back up and running. I mean this guy, literally had no clue going on because. The morning. Yeah. In just head guy. We're raising a couple of million here, and we need you to pop out of bed. So you're up. And then it just blew up in obviously celebrities in people from all over the country and all over the world. And then you have to figure out the logistics of okay, we're accepting donations from all fifty states in different countries. Now, my five on C three has to file paperwork to allow for that. And just the logistics of it all was insane in oh, by the way. It's also the end of training camp in, we have to figure it out because the season starts in, like ten days. So I mean it was it was insane. I haven't unbelievable group of people who helped me out, and it's fun of great organizations, who distributed the might to have have helped us. So I've had a ton of rape people. Help me out, I never ever want to take credit for it as a one man operation, because it was so many great people, the city of Houston whenever we would play down there. Your picture was on every other page of the program. I mean it was your picture was up on the Jumbotron ever. They played that turn down for what thing in the entire place. Went nut for you. You literally. From that guy booing to a couple years of dominance later became the face of Houston, basically, in, then whenever you did all that. Are you going to get into politics? Are you going to be the fucking governor of Texas? Or are you going to run for president one day? What are we going to do? All right. Got to I got to get some more socks. I. I'm trying to think about what I'm going to do after my career man. But every time I try and think about it. It's just too many like you could go movies. You could go TV you could go, politics, go anywhere you want. And there's too much think about, and I, I truly feel like I have a lot more football left inmate. I'm excited about that. So I'm focused on that at the moment enjoying it a loving it in. It's, it's a hard game to give up man. I just I love the daily work of like you said trying to get better at something and still trying to prove that even now after two years of injuries. I still have a lot will you got sixteen sacks last year. Nobody's talking about you at all. I like whenever I was going through the stats of last year. And I read that you had sixteen stats lashed are sax last year. I was like, damn, I didn't know I had no idea. Nobody's even talking about the JJ watt. Nobody's even talking about the Houston Texans making the playoffs and with a quarterback that seems to be legit. For the first time nobody's really talking about the Houston Texans. That's got to feel pretty good going into training camp. The guys are kind of a underrated weapon right now. Yeah. You know, I mean, the thing that people immediately talked to me about my interviews already off the field things obviously, or two years of injuries. And I've been trying to kind of with the two years Andrews behind me. Because like you said last year I was fortunate I'll get back to playing good football. And so, I think it I think it's going to take at least one more year of playing at that level before people forget about what happened with injuries and stuffing. Remember what I can do on the field. And then we do have a good team. We have a very good team. A lot of good guys. We have good chemistry obviously were in into good colts team in the in the playoffs that I think that it's, it's a matter of making it and doing it on the field rather than talking about what we're going to be able to do or where we wanna go. And, you know, the city of us some hasn't really had anything since I'm in when I first got here we want our first playoff game ever, we went to the plastic. I I've ever we won our first playoff game. So we're trying to take that next step and be able to do. Big things in is just can't do it by talking to you have to work in drew. I say all the time that my favorite place to play was down there in Houston at the whatever you guys call it now stadium. It was a that point had driven and onside kick ten yards to yourself. Pretty awesome. I he when he wanted it was pretty prequel nothing pissed me off on. I mean I'm just sitting there on the bench from all right? We got to kick off comedy here. I got plenty at times sipping. Gatorade watching. Not even really paying that much attention. And then all of a sudden on my well what the hell was that? And then fucking number one walking out of the plough with. Iran. They showed the replay in there. I hope and I hope you saw near like. Yeah. You know what I don't think I've ever seen came on. That's pretty crazy thing. I was so mad. Because I was like, there's no way we actually just allowed that at. I was like, we had to have a guy in the middle. Right. I mean today, at least max somebody over to get the ball. No, he didn't. Wall south there. I mean it wasn't even like you were running that hard. I know. Yeah. I mean in a weird wild game. I mean I don't know that was that was the loudest I've ever heard our stadium that game. It was awesome. It was piercing. It was like actually piercing in anytime. I get asked like your favorite place to play. I did get to play at Seattle. But everybody's like your favorite place to play. I always say Houston man, it was always like a time game. It always felt like it was like a Super Bowl like a playoff game in the crowd was into it. They were loud, and they're into it that doesn't happen everywhere. I'll be decided to watch if you guys can continue to win what that place is going to do. It's going to be incredible. I agree. You know, when you start winning the place, gets nuts. They love football down here. We have the rockets who are doing great. We have the Astros who have obviously been unbelievable. We have the soccer team's January day, Texas is a football state. So when, when you string some wins together, it's, it's a blast man, and his, his ultimate tag show gonna soccer Urwah is a pretty good. I mean okay for those that don't know, JJ watt production has happened with his brothers, Derek, and TJ who are all. Also in the NFL, congrats to the watt family, by the way, by the way, the fucking hitting a triple for NFL kids, that's pretty incredible. But you got into this into this game show, type world you executive produced the game. The show you hosted the show. It's coming in early twenty twenty it seems like an incredible concept were you amazed by how hard it was. Did you enjoy the process? Is it going to be good all that stuff? So my brothers and I host the show and whenever you put all three of us know room, it's a bit of a cluster, as it is. I've obviously done a little TV all my brothers really haven't done anything. So when I came on board, I said, I want my brother's to host with men, you could tell FOX's a little bit like they've never hosted before we don't know what they can do. And I sent you just trust me figure it out. And we got to the first day of rehearsal before we started filming and every Faulk executive was kind of looking around like our fucked. One that was like nervous and stuttering is another one. Couldn't read the teleprompter. No. Mitterrand lights came on, on the when it was time for it's a really happen. In the show started in. It was like brand new people. I think it's just that athlete in you where you don't really like the rehearsal. You don't do once the show starts once the lights, come on. They were awesome. And it was so much fun to watch them grow and get better. And for all of us to interact mess around, and then the show itself is way. Better thugs gonna be. So I was really excited about it. Because tag is a game we've all played we to these crazy levels. We have one. That's a steel cage thirty feet up in the air. You don't have any harnesses or anything. So if you fall you fall. Right onto a map for defeat down to have another one that you're jumping off trampolines and stuff. So I was excited about it. But then when I saw it in person, I saw help unbelievable. These athletes are I mean it's physical people are smashing their faces stuff before get injuries. There's it's like a sport. It's not really a game show. And so it was a ton of fun. We have I think it's twelve professional. Taggers. A little that American gladiators field to wait. You're gonna see the saints out every week and some of the best athletes ever seen. I mean, I'm in the NFL, see obviously athletes all time. There's a couple athletes on Altima tag that are be out of ever seen. So what do you, do you just gonna stay away for like two minutes, and you win? Stay went from the professional taggers. So there are four differ rows in saw that starts out with three men and three women obviously different categories. And then. After two games. There are illumination son. There's two left. And so basically it's games difference with the first game is literally stay alive as long as you can, if you say allied longer than the other people you get extra points. And in the second game is kinda like a capture the flag or the more flags. You capture the more points to get and then you get eliminated. If you didn't have the same the most points menu. Go the next one, and it could be the dome way up high or it's a or could be this one on the ground. And then you get the finale. How many points you had you get head? Start on your competitor is cool man. It's we wanted to try it, and then we saw, and we were like there's no way. How competitive we are paying pin get caught so easily? I hope it doesn't credible in, I feel like with everything else that you do. I don't know your brother's as well with everything else that you, do you seem to literally hit home runs. And it's urine incredible specimen. Brother. You're like a superhero of a human. It's a really impressive thing in a cool thing to think about you just being this working class guy from Wisconsin out there, changing the world, help in the world out along the way. It's cool shit. I appreciate I have to say one thing for you. All the credible when I got a text yesterday from a buddy of mine, who lives in Ireland lives in Dublin, and he texted me, and he said, hey, I heard you're going to be on the Pat McAfee show this week asset. Yeah, you know, he goes I listen to it all the time. Sure. Tell him. He's got a massive following Ireland. Launch shown an onsite over in Dublin temple bar. You know, not a bad idea. I think we should definitely that maybe you get into agent game to star booking me places fan. We'll get you on alternate. Technic-. The are nounce football. You call Biard now. I'm not athlete enough. Wanted love to our JJ. I just wanna say thank you so much for doing this man. You're a massive stars you coming on his little bug s I really appreciate. Hey, I appreciate you. Make people laugh people love watching the, you have a lot of positivity. I love all the social media, and everything that you do. Man. You've been a fun competitor. For me to go against over the years. He'd been a fun. Follow me on social media, and all the work that you do. So cheap spreading last spreading cheer, and we need more than or brother. Hey, hey. Yes, I made me feel good. Really good. You don't need me to make you feel go biceps like that. Hey, I was looking to your Instagram. You've got quads on your arms, bro. I saw you coming on soon. Yeah. I think I'm gonna have him. So there's like a point in time. We're gonna have goat week where I'm gonna have lecture Viteri I think I'm gonna try to get Jankowski. It's going to be called goat week. And I'm excited for lecture, I think, is coming to Indy four it I think I got him to talk them into when he's on some beer. Yes. So when you have that I wanna like send in video question or something, because I want temper that old man. He's the greatest man. He's literally, the greatest human punter volt, I love that man use the fast man, he is a walking drinking fishing machine the shit out of. Ladies and gentlemen, soon to be four time NFL defensive player of the year. Probably another Walter Payton man of the year award on the way as well. Definitely a six time all pro after next year. Mr. Justin James turn down for what Justin. Nope. JJ winding. Good luck with the knock with ultimate tag. Dune Bank, you man, appreciate. You'll have a wonderful day, semi the info. And you when you guys are going live. I will do that. Good luck ago. Mantha. He was incredible. There's really no other words to say, no, there's not. It's very hard to not like him after listening to that interview. There was some people that tweet me yesterday. Like I wonder if I'll get over his douche canoe nece with his interview, honestly. He's a megastar and that conversation, you just had with us was. So it was like he's just one of the boys, you'll get over it. Yeah. You'll get over it. You're I'm big JJ. Why didn't he is misinterpreted to? You get that big. It's just you have to be how he was is first couple years in the league. You know, the only thing I didn't get to ask him about is he talks a lot of shit on the field. Like a lot of Jesus. Humble hardworking guy off the field. He gets on the field. Those Mike up session. He's talking a lot of shit. I wanna ask him about what makes them flip the switch, but it's probably the chip on a shoulder to be honest with you. I'm big fan very thankful for JJ if you could tweet him and thank him for coming on today show. I would appreciate it a lot. Maybe a gif of a thumbs up or, like, hey, you to man or like, hey, you should go back on the show sometime. That'd be great because honestly, that's a megastar. Yeah. JJ watt is a megastar huge, huge and also megastar in my life is the bee's book postbox of awesome. With their box of awesome beast book percents guys, only the best stuff every single month. 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I don't think it's at the vice of honestly, the only thing that it's device of four is the older heads who happened to be in government in control of a lot of situations. And let me tell you why I've said this a couple of times before. But I'm not sure it's getting echoed enough. First impressions go, a very, very, very long way with people, whether you meet somebody in there and asshole to you, the first time you're going to think that person's and asshole for the rest of your life. If you tried to kill it for the first time and you puke the first time you tried to Keila. Guess what? You're not going to do again, probably drink tequila for the rest of your life, for me when I was younger, I drank. Orange juice until I had one. Bad fit of dial. And I will never drink orange juice. Again, that's the same thing that happened with marijuana's in these people that are currently in charge. Let me tell you why the people that were smoking all the marijuana were the people that were anti America, anti military anti everything that the people who are currently in power right now, believe it, so whenever they, they saw hippies they saw marijuana, and in vice versa when they saw marijuana they saw hippies. They didn't see the Chris longs of the world who are helping everybody becoming all pros being Super Bowl champions. They not seeing Michael Phelps, who's the greatest Olympian of all time, smoking, they're not seeing somebody who runs a small business in Indianapolis retired from the NFL to do things, they don't see that what they see is the people who were bringing society, down in that first impression is very, very hard for them to get over no matter how many doctors and scientists and researchers come out and say, hey, listen, cannabis can help with this cannabis can help with this. THC. And do this CBD can do this. All these stats are getting shoved in their face. But all they think about is back whenever they were first introduced to it in somebody in something terrible was representing it. I think as we move forward as a society, obviously, we're already seeing in a lot of states making it legal. The people who are the old heads in charge will either have a change of heart. They'll be forced to do that. Or they'll move out in somebody else will move in who hasn't had such a terrible reaction with their first impression of marijuana. I do believe that the NFL would be doing their players a hell of a favor if they leaned on THC instead of pharmaceuticals, if they lend weaned on something that was natural as opposed to man made that wasn't addictive physically. But what like not pills. I honestly the NFL is going to make the step make the jump. And I'm excited to see him do it. I think we're gonna we're about the phone to an era where the NFL could potentially be looking out for its players a lot more than it has in the past. And I'm all the way here for because honestly if I wanna kick balls. Again, the real hurdle in. Real obstacle is passing a drug test, and I would love it if I didn't have to do that, obviously. It's tough to like, estimate this, what's the timeframe, you think in terms of for the NFL? Yeah, they move at a pretty rapid rate if things get into conversation. Normally a changes coming that extra point conversation happened. And then the next year was, like, okay. We're going to thirty three yard extra point like those types of things replay. Okay. We're doing this. We're going to this every if it gets into the conversation at those owners meetings at those rules committee, usually it can get going bit. But if it's still stuck on the outside like a bubble like not a real talking point at this point that it's just going to be stuck there forever. It's kind of like a purgatory, but once it really gets mentioned, which I think it is happening right now 'cause you got every news outlet doing it, and Chris long, taking a stand saying it's him as massive because he's such a impactful not only player but family in the NFL at in brother. I think this is something that could get expedited pretty quickly. I mean, that yeah. Thousand percent pass. No question. Good for me man. All right. Well, listen. We got a chance to the segments fun, by the way you wanna play coz out. Let's close it out here. It's. I have a couple of thoughts. Not thoughts. Give some bigs while. We're big segment show this your first time listening. Love doing the segments. If you guys haven't heard about Rhone you're really missing out Russia's a men's performance lifestyle and premium active wear brand. That is engineered for unparalleled quality and comfort. They are an absolute necessity for guys on the go. It doesn't matter. 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I read through it, and I said, oh, my God. This Twitter thread is one of those Twitter threads. That's a painter. It's a tweet stroller. Oh, yeah. So let's scroll I guess, well and stroke. All right through it. They go walk, and we got a chance to have this guy. Join us. But I would like to read the Twitter thread to the listener. So they know what I'm referring to when we talk about this random man named Shane Morris, who literally became a celebrity overnight tie Schmidt. This is going to be a little bit. There's a lot of tweets here, get coffee. But it's pretty good story. And then the Q and A after you're gonna wanna hear tie Schmidt. Please my Twitter, thread reading music place. Y'all want hair story. Yes, please about the time I accidentally transported, a brick of heroin from LA to Seattle. All right. Let's do this tweet one. I was living in Newport Beach, California kinda just trying to figure life out a little bit. My good, buddy Tyler calls me up out of the clear, blue and says, hey, did. You won't do the most epic road trip ever. Unlike shirt. At the time Tyler was a boat mechanic, diner in south Florida. So I flew from Newport down in Miami. And I ended up staying with one of his co workers for few days, just by some time until I can buy Honda shadow seven fifty for like twenty seven hundred so who's parentheses here had one my friend Tyler, this will reply and do the road trip on and I got a matching bike, so we could share spare parts on the road, the road trip. Spurt from Miami. We set off across the United States. The great United States staying at the kind of motels along the way you only see on movies, like. No country for old men, great felty rate. Excellent. Phil. That's a fucking air gun. Remember those motels brought them. That was where these chain and Tyler were staying across the United States. The flip the coin. Sweep. If you're gonna ride across the United States, Shane says on a motorcycle dude on two lane roads. It's worth it, more scenic, we end up swinging down through Mexico, and this isn't really important to the story. But we pulled over the rest in the middle of the desert in these wild horses walked up to us in. We're actually, like, oddly, friend. They would pet them. It was super cool. One point I said, I got the horses in the ban. Anyway, after ten days in the desert with the horses in Mexico. We made it back into southern California, my friend Tyler had knuckle in Temecula in my ex was in Newport beat so we both rusted for few days, riding a motorcycle across the country takes a toll on your body. So we decided to switch it up. Call in lefty, make a change for our Gruntal in our bodies. Also smart, we've been from south beach to Mexico. Now, we're in Temecula in Newport, and it's time to make a change. We decided to sell our bikes in by nineteen seventy nine Dodge Ram van. Okay. I want to say we paid like six hundred h four twelve hundred dollars like they made a little work. But the important part was, it was all easy stuff, we named the van Cassandra in rotor names, right there on the door obviously couple of pictures to prove he was in Lyon. The plan was easy. We'll drive up the Pacific Coast Highway in camp all along the way, we took the middle seats out of the van, so we could sleep in it at night. In case it was raining. Then we went to REI to get hammocks for hammock camping as what does they were going to complete this road trip from southern Miami. The southeast east point to the north West Point checks. On our way up the Pacific Coast, Highway we stopped in Santa Barbara in picked up. My sister Shane sister at the time she was in school at UCSB university of California, Santa Barbara. And she was planning on flying home to the bay area to see our dads. So it was like just camping on the beach with us start hi-fi. So she did that plane. Don't take that plane. We got a Dodge Ram van just try them on the fuck with us because. Cassandra's the van Kampen sister goes to UC Santa Barbara chose to do that. Another picture of him and his sister, right there on the beach driving north Tyler Shane and his sister. They made it to some pretty cool spots like the Bixby canyon bridge, all along the way we're letting anyone who meets us write their name on the van and take a picture with it was. Fucking awesome. Sounds pretty cool. There was three dots between was, and then two spaces fucking awesome terrific pause obviously written into the threat on that van well done. Good writing me, too. That's pretty fucking awesome. Hey, that's on Cassandra. Toner tits. Around Big Sur. Our van had its first problem Cassandra this lady were to Cassie the rear drum brakes were making awful noises in locked up. I ended up buying a set of craftsman tools, and then I did a brake job, right there in a parking lot of WalMart anti guy used to be Sears used to be, don't even more. Rest of peace. The sears. While I was there. I was like, I'm going to do a few other things as well for Mario under. Why not when I got the van I change the oil, and that's it. Oh, breath, Aziz. I know I should have done more of a tune-up. But honestly, the van was pretty fine interiors, even pretty nice old man frenzy on these old dodge vans. The engine access is inside the car in between the driver and the passenger so Shane in Tyler or Shane and his sister rate in between them there. I am even lifted it up when I bought it, I'm an idiot, I know. So I decided to change the spark plugs, the fuel-filter and the air filter, I am so capital letters glad that I did too. I hope your head's you shot, the GARRETT'S I opened up the engine cover and sitting right on top of the engine was like grass straw. A little bits carpet, a mouse had made a home right there on top of the engine blondes like the pub. I'm lucky it hadn't started a fire. So I cleared everything out in change the plugs in. Filter. I remember Yona Tyler because he's the one who poured the oil in. Now's like how the fuck did you not notice? There was a fucking rat's nest on top of the fucking engine blocked when you report in the fuck and oil, and he was like it's an old car. I was like, oh. Toby Tf, bro. So anyways, we drive up into Oakland in meet up with my friends there. We stayed at their house overnight smoked marijuana ate a meal in chilled out a little bit. Then we set off for mount Shasta and lake. Shasta parentheses. It's a really beautiful lake. Senior trip we can't air mount Shasta beautiful. The lake was really low, but the water felt great prince sees not really critical to the story. But go if you ever get a chance. Finally, we get all the way up down, or organ into the cascades, and then head into Washington, the whole time or hiking camping spending time with mother nature, the bust threes, and sometimes it's really just one of the coolest experiences of my life. Prentice. Not sure what the summit was, by the way and the photo below Tim, stay on top of him out deliver lifelike that right up there at the peak. The climb matches not even know summit, don't even know what to care in the world. Here's the thing about, oh cars, by the way, especially ones, carburetors, you need to just them for out the toot. I'd never thought of an ideal fuel ratio at sea level is called. Story kill metric donkey, fourteen th Russian store kill that. Which means fourteen point seven parts air to one part, fueled by rhinos conversion as you gain out the tude. You need to lean out your carb jets mount Jefferson is something like ten thousand feet. So as we're driving up probably around six seven thousand feet. The van starts running way too, rich. It was obvious. So I was like Tyler over bro. I'm I'm going out these jets. Typical here had stuff gearhead wanna one on a single barrel. Carb, you're only dealing with a few screws and springs. And basically, you just kinda guess at it. Listening to the engine. And then I would reach over and tap the gas pedal to see out sounded I she sounded. House. She sounds. Full rich. Tyler steps out of the van and I'm hunched over the engine just twisting on the screws and I hit the gas and Tyler's like holy shit at first, I'm like, oh my God. Something is on fire. So I pop up around. I'm like, what tether is like what the fuck is that I looked out at the car, but I'm like, I don't know what part of you looking at does something broken. He's like, no, dude look on the cover. I looked to my left on the underside of the engine cover in. There's what appears to be a brick of aluminum foil, and it's taped up with aluminum tape. The clam shell cover immediately. I'm like, oh shit. What the fuck. So I stop what I'm doing turn the engine off in certainly start, slowly prying. This aluminum brick off the underside of the clam shell Tyler's freaking out. He doesn't do drugs by the Tyler classic Tyler classic sober. So I stop what I'm doing. I turn the engine off and start slowly prying this aluminum brick off the underside of the clam shell Tyler's freaking out. He doesn't do drugs. Clean. He's like, oh my God. It's like on cops when they find drugs hidden in the car bed boys, what you to do, when they come for you. What you do. They come for you at heart. I get the brick on tape, and then undo like seven layers of foil. They use a lot of foil on this thing. What I found was a white, perfectly shrink wrapped brick I thought it was coke for a minute. So I cut open a bit of the corner, like, in the movies puts them on my finger erupted on my gums great idea, simple. Little gummy option. If you've ever done coke, by the way, you know, it's kinda hot and then it makes your gums numb Ben there. Chopper bobber this definitely wasn't coke so Shane powdered sugar. And I'm not the type of dude who does heroin. Oh, prince sees just don't do harrowing judge. Thank you for that. It's no good judge. Agreed those debut should judgment. No judge. No, no real judges take care when you will be judged. I always thought here Brown sugar. So now it's white. It's perfectly sure. He said a rare to threats ago to China. White, thank you. So Tyler Neier standing next to each other. When I hear tires on the gravel behind us. Let me paint you a picture. We're standing there with the hood up clam shell open side by side with a brick of pure heroin. We. Who do you think rolled up? God damn park ranger. Rolls up behind us. Ranger juicy no Park, Rangers or the police, they have guns, and they just happen to work. In a part they can't arrest. You and everything. They'll the Popo I'm holding a brick of heroin in my hands, and there's a park ranger thirty feet behind me. So I reached down in pretending dive into mature kid. Thankfully, my hands agrees L can I pick up some tools, and I can pick up some tools, so I slide his brick heroin, under the seat, I pop around with and pretend putting a socket on a breaker bar. And I'm like, oh, hey there. How can I help you guys? Like you guys. M's trouble. I'm just trying to jet carbs. Oh, I remember doing that when I was your age. I so with guy, and he's like you ever done that before I'm like mcdonagh, learn as go here, we're from California do laughs, and he's like, here, I'll show you so the ranger walks over, and he's like, I remember these old ram, vans, so much room. What's he implied their sex titties? Yeah. This vans Iraq and don't come knocking especially the woods. We open up the clam show, and the guy's knee is like two inches from this Brooke heroin that I just put under the seat. Man. I'm trying so hard to act normal. But Tyler remember Tyler he's playing at all, of course not. He's like, you know, I'm sure Shane configure it out. We don't need you wasting your time on us. Mr. park ranger Rangers, like, oh, no, no. It's, it's no big deal. Most of the time, I'm just telling people to put their trash higher up. So the bears can't get to it vice Xers. So he's just chatting with us and I'm telling them how we bought the van and drove all the way up the coast et cetera et cetera. Finally, we get the jet set in the Rangers. Like, all right. You boy, stay safe. Like he had no clue. He was probably two inches away from the biggest drug bust in the history of Oregon. True to true. Once he drives off Tyler's freaking out. Oh my God. What are we gonna do man? What I'm like. And I'm like we're gonna make a shit ton of money on a brick of heroin. So I wrapped it up into stuck it in the bottom of the cooler and freezer bags underneath the ice. Then we drive up into Seattle. When I call one of my buddies, who I know sells a shit ton. Await good friend half. Yeah. I'm like y'all star star star. So social name has been removed redacted Martin good word, we need to talk. I won't go into all the details, but I managed to sell it all to one person. It was lower risk. Plus, I'm not a drug dealer for the record my buddy. Tyler wind take any of the money. Eventually, I convinced them to let me give him six hundred dollars for the van fake. So I could say I bought the van myself the van was originally in his name not anymore. But this story is not over. What I end up selling van some hippies from Ashland and then moved Atlanta other side of the country. But a year goes by in. I'm not even thinking about this van anymore. Then I get a phone call from a number. I do not know but she voicemail that by some sales. Probably don't work. I'm a sales guy overall. Call the same number calls me again thirty seconds later. So mike. I guess I'm gonna answer it. Hello. The voice on the other line. Hey, can I speak to Shane? I'm like speaking. You got him got him dude is like, hey, my dad gave me your number. He said he sort of van you buy your ago. Immediately. I'm like, yeah. He so me. Van guys like, wow, that's great news. I'm so glad I found you. So, I don't like to talk about this. But I was in jail. I had a substance abuse problem in An Giang to jail because I made some mistakes, I'm thinking, like what's angle? So I'm like, oh, well that sucks. Anyway, how can I help you? So the do goes crazy ass long story. He does me about how he was so many memories in that van. Yeah, it was in his dad's name, but it was his first car. I know it's just a beat up old van you, but I'd really like to buy back from you that says you paid something like twelve hundred four I think I'd be willing to go as I say, eighteen hundred eighty. Think. The memories are just worth that to me, the guy said the light goes off in my head jail, substance abuse. He wants van back. He's gonna pay six hundred back over what I paid for street value bagged up if you slow sell it. There was something like forty thousand dollars worth of heroin in that, brick, by the way parentheses while this dude one is brick back. The guy didn't good jail because he had a substance abuse problem. No heroin junkie can afford forty thousand dollars in heroin guy time because he was a plug. So I decided it was time to make some money, Rick squad. One for the blue now. We all know that I saw this van hippies, and I don't only more, but I definitely know who I sold it to. And I know I can buy it back. So I start spinning a story, I'm like, man, eighteen hundred just won't do it. I put a lot of money in his vantage really running at top now to my daily driver. He's like, oh, yeah. I'm like, yeah. Dude. She's in grave condition. I read it to carb, the brakes few ones, put some tires on it redid the carpet on the interior lot. I've probably put at least hundred five thousand into this that he's like, wow. You really did a lot. I'm like, so he's like where are you located? I'm like, oh, I'll open national Oregon reminder. I was in Atlanta at the time. He's like, oh, that's too bad. If it runs as well as you say, might just drive up there with a friend, and then drive it back down here, California, Oregon. So Finally, I respect you put a lot of work into it. Like I said the van is all sentimental, value to me. And I'm glad to hear you took care of it. I think I could offer you sixty two hundred dollars for that. That's what you paid for it. Plus, the five thousand you say you invest it. So I say, all right. You have deal as soon as we hung up, I called the people in Oregon, that I sold the van to print sees. I kinda sorta knew them through friends. And I was like, hey, do you still have that Vander? Like, yeah. But it's not running. No more. I was like you can't fi by back from you guys like dude, I'll sell it for a hundred dollars if you just get it out of my driveway, being, I tell them sold. Nice booked, a ticket to Portland the next day, and then rented a car and drove to Ashland along the way, I called the old owner of the van son. I'm like, hey, we be free to drive up this week. And he's like, oh, yeah. Totally. I can come up. It will only take me two days to drive up there. It was Tuesday, we agreed to meet on Sunday. I find a Portland run a car, and then get to astronaut Wednesday I go to an auto parts store, and I buy battery jumper kit, and some hand tools. I need to get the van running, and I need to get van running soon I go to see the van and it's sitting there pretty dusty. But otherwise bad. The only thing wrong with the van was bad battery, the couple that I saw it to just didn't want to spend the money on the van because they had recently purchased Subaru outback, Oregon fine machine. Go figure it's Ashland. He actually said, so I changed the battery in an auto parts store parking lot. Then I took the van to one of those self-cleaning carwash places and gave it a good wash and vacuum. Honestly, it really. Really nice at this point, I decided checking what the guy in kinda fucked with them a little bit in the process. The guy answers really fascinates. Like shame, buddy. What's up? I'm like, hey, I do want to mention one thing about this van I was trying to be honest with guy. And I hope that doesn't change your plans about coming up and buying us on Sunday. He goes silences, what's up? I was like, I don't want you be mad. But after about the van, my friends, and I we, we wrote on the outside of it with permanent marker. I can't get it off I tried. And I hear him sigh like hell allowed oh, that's fine. I can repaint it. I'm like, I want to be fair on the price because I didn't tell you that information. So how about just knocked two hundred dollars off. I just wanna pay whatever's fair to get the marker off. He says, thanks for telling me, I'll accept that two hundred dollar discount. And I'll see you Sunday. I'm like, Yep. So next things next. I need to make a fake brick heroin. So I had to goodwill by medium sized paperback book. It was the pelican, brief. I thought that was a funny detail for some reason, Princeton, good book. Also, good moving. Yeah. Denzel's better movies to be honest. I this path talking. I'll say I didn't know that book evening. Chris. Then I got my rental in off to Medford, because I couldn't find aluminum tape anywhere near Ashland. I got their got my tape in then bought some heavy duty foil in a grocery store from there. I drove back to Ashland making the fake brick was actually pretty easy. I just wrapped it up the same way, I remember the brick being wrapped in and taped it down with a woman on tape the same way, I remember being taped kennel a tic TAC toe board. They had tape the shit out of it. And I just kind of waited on Friday. Got a phone call from do. Let me know he was on his road. And I said, hey, my mechanic says we can use his bay. In case you want to inspect it in the do was like, oh, they won't be necessary. I'm like, oh, I insist on Saturday. I caught a local mechanic and was like, hey, I'm so my van is some people from out of state, and I was hoping I could give you fifty dollars. In case they want use one of your bays to look under the car for a moment. Princeton car buying this from Shane talking. Any mechanic worth is salt. We'll take you up on this offer. It's good for both the buyer 'em seller to have a mechanic. Take a little look. See. He's not wrong. They know they'll be getting any work on any fixed identify, and princi-. We made it, this local shop on a Sunday afternoon. The guy shows up in a late model silver Nissan, Altima. He's heavily tattooed. And so was his friend, these guys look like real, o g Mexican gangbangers like dude is wearing blue Nike Cortez in Dickie's. It's that look. See. Immediately. I realized these aren't the soft dudes. I thought they were there real gangsters. They move real weight. And I'm doing something incredibly stupid. I'm bout to rip off two guys who look like they bury people deep in coyotes. Eat your face. Factors. But I'm there in there in front of me. So I got to go through with it. So I give them a tour. We walk around the van it's clean as tire shine on it. I've watched it, and even wax it looks as good as a nineteen seventy nine dodge can look the guys like so you've done some work. I'm like, yeah, car plug wires plugs, distributor cetera. He's like take a look. So I hope I'm lift the clam shell Inter's, no rat's nest anymore. It's looking clean, and it's sort of silent so talk. When I got into there was a huge rat's nest I clean that out and that's working to cat carb the plugs wires belts horses hoses. It's all new in there, then dude, reaches over and taps, aluminum brick, I start sweating. He looks at me. I look at him. The first thing that came out of my mouth was I didn't bother redoing any of the heat shielding on the clam shell. Honestly, I prefer having some heat coming off the block in the winter. But I can see why you did it southern California's hot. I was trying so hard to play dumb, as hell I sold it. He says back to me in this tape costs about twenty dollars a role, but it's worth it to beat the heat I laugh. Yeah. The AC just barely works. I think we got a leak in the system somewhere. Then he throws curve at me. Can I take it for a drive? I'm like, oh, totally he's like, do you mind. If my friend drives behind me and kiss it breaks down and say, oh, you go right ahead at this point. I'm thinking he's going to drive off. Never be seen again. He's for about twenty minutes. And then he comes back, he's got a big smile on his face. And he's like, wow. Still drives. Great. Let's go. She ate. So I'm like, well, you did say six thousand after two hundred dollar discount. He comes back means like, well, I gotta ship this van back. I'm like, okay, well, what's a fair price. He says you have the title here in hand. I said, well, actually I had to do a loss title but I can mail it to you in like a week reality was I did but hadn't done from the old couple. Six he's like, all right. You know you seem like a good guy you can mail it in a week. I'm like, Yep. He says five thousand because it will cost me thousand ship your wild man for driving this obese as far as you did. So we shake hands. It's deal. I have a no pad with me. And I say, all right. Let me write you up a Bill of sale. So I write his name my name his address in my address a local address. That I definitely have never lived in never will. And the cost of the vehicle is the funny little wrinkle. I thought I said of the guy. Hey, I'm gonna write on the Bill sale. You only pay thousand dollars his Vance can avoid paying more taxes in California, when he go registered, you pay taxes on sale. He's like, oh, thanks. I didn't think of that. This using the hood depress on I signed my name, he signed his, and then he's like, all right. Here's the five thousand dollars cash. So he reaches o hands, so he hands reaches. So we hands reaches into his pocket. And when he does he moves his shirt in such a way that he obviously exposes a gun in his waistband. Oh, she's business. He pauses as he's me the cash, she smiles, and says, thanks, you take care of my van Shane relieved to see you left. My heat shielding how it was. There's a lot of value in heat. Shielding some might say it's worth quite a bit. He gets his looking his is. It's dark he continues you seem like a smart guy. Smart guys. Don't talk about things. They find. They might even by new aluminum tape but became enough to leave the role in the backseat. My throat turned into a not like my home bath went dries fuck, he stares into my fucking soul. Like into me fan gets big ass mounts face grabs me by my shoulder and smiles. If you're even smarter you would ask for ten thousand dollars and he starts laughing in the guys with starts laughing. You know, your hustler Shane, what do you do? I breathe a sigh of relief. I'm just a web developer, bro. He says, you could have been a stone cold hustler in another life. I've never been hustle before. But you, you had the Honi to get your money. I like that. They inject to see what was inside the foil. They only knew that it was they only knew that I taped it back. So I want with it. Well, you know, I found it when I was working on a van, I didn't know how I'd ever sell it. So it's been in my freezer for a year now. The heroin he busts out laughing. Having a laugh, homie you kept it in the freezer. That's wild man. So then we just chop it up outside a mechanic shop for about twenty minutes. Just having a nice conversation. He and I had the same taste in rap music. I wanted to just keep them happy. I was trying to think of my exit plan. Finally, all right. You know, I don't want this van but ship it to me, anyways, here's five thousand keep the change to be clear, he'd give me five thousand already for the van and then gave me another five thousand I played it. Cool close enough to ten K, I'd have to mup-. Devas as soon as they left the parking lot. I sprinted into the mechanics office, where he was sitting and he was like son. That was the most obvious drug deal I've ever seen. I've already called the police, I felt my heart go from zero to one million, then a mechanic, links to me. And he's like fucking with you, man. This is Oregon, everyone smokes. We classic Oregon calm down at didn't call the cops. He sees my face, and he's like you should have seen the look on your face. Francis. I wasn't a messed. The problem was the clock was ticking. I didn't know when those dudes we're going to open the foil and realize I just hustled themselves. I ate if I give you two hundred dollars will you let me keep the van parked here for two days, and so I can get shipped. He's like if it's your longer than two days. I'm charge you, if it stays here. It's mine. So I was like that's fine. I'll be back. I knew at that moment the van was going to belong to him. I was never coming back. Most states have laws for mechanics that, by the way. I walked out of the mechanics, office, and then walked literally seven miles back to my rental part of my little motel. Ashland is a small town. And I picked the cheapest motel. I wanna Subaru zone. Sounds right. Throw this Mattel motel is on his like pretty long straight. Like you could see a full quarter mile down road, which I live, my life by one of no problem as the foreign yards away from the entrance. I see silver Nissan Altima pool in and go to the front office, as I walked closer. I see two guys get out, and I realize it's the same guys. They haven't seen me, but we're staying at the same fucking motel. So I start speed walking when I checked him and took a while. So I knew I needed the hustle. So I wasn't seeing I took off the flannel. I was wearing. So I'd be a white tank top. I folded the flannel up in super small and walked as fast as someone can walk without looking like a moron. He's saying my room was on the backside of motel upstairs basically, as soon as I cleared the vision line of the back wall. I wanted to a full sprint in rain as fast as I could upstairs and in my room. No, sooner than the moments, say my door one over the drapes and peaked out the civil, it's most driving. Around I shit. You not these guys participates away from my rental car in their room directly below mile. It's a damn cheap hotel. So I could I kinda sorta hear them talking not word for word but definitely the vocal tones plus their TV when I saw was? When I saw was quiet as a mouse. I mean I just sat embed didn't turn the TV on didn't move when I had to p I held it. I was terrified in. Then I heard it. I heard the guy yell mother fucker I'm gonna kill him. Then I hear them screaming, but it's not clear what they're saying they. Oh, for like fifteen minutes then they got quiet. At my phone rings. The block number. I sent the poice male fuck you button rings again block. Number Senator Boyce male fuck you button. Then I hear them yelling bit more. And then I hear the door downstairs slam. I peek out of the little gap in the drapes, and watch them take off is, as the car clear the corner, I left, I grabbed my backpack, flew down the stairs. And got into my rental, I was getting fuck out of Ashland before I got killed. I've been on the road for about an hour. When a guy calls me again this time from his real number. Not a block number. I answered hey motherfucker, what's up? He's yelling. We got a fuck the problem you need to bring me, my money, right? Fucking now. I was did what I do. I was did what I do. Classic talk. Oh shit. I take it. You're not a big fan of John Grisham novels. He's really give them a chance before you get angry. The do flew off the handle like he's just shouting fuck out kill you over and over and over. So finally, I'm like mccone down. Just listen. I think we can make a deal here. So it gets a little less on the edge. What you're dealing says, I said, look, I know you're staying at the whatever motel it was the worst thing, we'll meet up there. You show me got your gun on note if your car. So I know him safe. He's an okay. And, and then I said, they don't take the pelican brief wrapped in foil, and I'll give you what you really want here. Tom clancy. And everyone loves worth fixing. He got quiet. He didn't say shit a fucking murder. You Shane, you rob me, you fucking die from this. Then he hung up. In two thousand seventeen the guy ripped off for his brick affair was found guilty with four other guys of raping and murdering thirteen year old girl who they're all prominent MS thirteen gang members, he got life without parole in a sentence. So it looks like he won't be killing me anytime soon. And that's the story of the time, I bought a van with a brick of heroin in that belonged to an MS thirteen gang member sold the brick and then sold him. Van back with a wrapped up John Grisham novel for ten thousand dollars somehow, I didn't die and seen. Joining us now, the guy that wrote that incredibly long novel about ripping somebody off Mr. Shane Morris. Shane a couple of quick questions. Incredible story by the one happy, you survive through all of the couple death situations their first things first, the MS thirteen are still again. Do you have any fear at all that you're not? They broke up like singer. No, but I'm saying do you have any fear at all? Because when I chose the re tweet it, I wanna let you know, I had some fear for you. I was like you know what? I don't know if this is the right move rolled Shane said, I let it fly. It is taken off since then you've obviously sold the story at some point is there any fear at all in six three two hundred and twenty five pound Shane Moore's is brain, that at some point, the MS thirteen or gonna remember that brick of heroin that you do them with, with fucking dodge van. I, I think there's always a risk, you know, like gang members are going to be gang members, you know, like they can kill whoever they want. I just I think that ain't maybe through MS thirteen guys who listen to your podcasts. To know that if I do make any kind of money off this. I do know the guy's name and I do hear that put money the commissary like a cool thing to do. I liked to remain alive. It could be a little barter Doritos, I say, please don't kill me so yeah, I mean I thought about it. But yeah, I mean I just have to assume that, like ten years enough time. You know it's not like I didn't do it. Disrespecting us thirteen. No idea was getting affiliated when I decided to drop for compare. Well, the good thing about the robbery, you know, like I accidentally ended up with his heroic. Honestly, this is this is a cautionary tale for people who are in, in a thirteen to, like the more responsible with your drug while the good thing about team members is they say they're very understanding. Yeah. Yeah. They would be very understanding knowing that you didn't do the purpose. Yeah. Yeah. I know I hear I hear that. They're some of those rational gang numbers. So could another have you thought about the moment of when you're in the same motel their national. And in, they call you in your phone accidents being on loud, instead of vibrant and it do kinda crazy. Yeah. I actually just talked about this. So I guess it's like a side note was kind of a cool announce those are cool segue. So I will be a screenwriter for William Morris endeavor. Okay. Congratulations. Oh, this guy. Ryan Feldman has now my agents I have to get used to saying that. Yeah, I kind of hold him the back story. And this is just one of those weird things usually I have my phone on full loud for whatever reason that day I had, like actively I think I had in my pockets and silent. So like men like I thought about that like or, you know, if had your phone on vibrate on a tabletop, and it's like even louder than ringing, like you know, I'm so glad that didn't happen, because they would hurt me, and, and then I would have been very dead. And creative way. Just fucking. I I really getting your knee end. Did you ever think that like, maybe after you've found the brick of heroin and then got away with the park ranger? And then you got away with selling said, brick of heroin that maybe when they called you and ask for that van back that maybe you should just let it go and not try to roll the dice and the fact that you've thought that there was just going to be some poor little white kid, looking for van BAC is a wild decision. I would've thought for sure it would have been some, some characters. Yeah. You know, you probably gathered this from this red, but thinking things, thrill is not always been much trunk. So no, I, I was, this is going to be the dumbest reason that anybody's ever done anything at the time. I really wanted to buy your miata, and I was like. So I was like random cover in town payment out of Yana. I'm thinking this, and I did end up buying on us. So, you know, I think I I don't think a lot of people would have done the same thing in my situation. In fact, like judging by the replies to this Witter's red. I think I'm probably one of the few people was like, yeah, this is a brilliant plan you have. So I guess what I done the same thing today know as a married man, who's got like other responsibilities in my now, just because it would have taken way too much effort and time. But, you know, I I was looking to sell the same brick twice. Now, this is genius. Gino, also not a great idea buying a Mazda miata as a six three men. So there's a life. If you are a taller person Corbeau clubmen is a seep ram bracket lower. She about two and a half inches you to consider them off to miata. You said you're a web developer there. One point are you a mechanic, I'm mechanically inclined? I just think when I was, I was one of those kids, you know, that would just take apart a lawn mower just to kind of be how it worked, and then put it back together. Inquisitive. And so when I got older, I got into cars, I mean, I always loved working on cars, and, you know, I always have some project car in Korean on. So I just think that, you know, for me it's the challenge is, it's a good hobby. You know, it's, it's relatively inexpensive depending upon whatever, but I wouldn't. I mean, I've done some really cool stuff like full on engines watts by myself, you know, but not, not mechanic, no. Do you think you cost that park ranger job, once you're red came out? Onto that guy was so nice. I felt so bad for them because I'm thinking, like the he's like there's one person I don't know how many people get your jetting their carbs in an old van, you know, in the middle of, you know, mount Jefferson national forest or whatever it's called I guarantee you that park ranger read this read he's going to be like you've gotta be shitting. I remember. I remember the famous terrible has your friend Tyler who traveled with you reached out to you since this threat has gone so big. Yes, he is furious. Appel come 'cause you're he's in the photos and he was he's linked with Ireland. I think I tweeted about that. But, you know, millennials get so, but hurt when you happen to implicate them in the story involving the world's most violent gang. Do you think that maybe you're the reason that man went from just selling heroin to putting people in barrels and? Still at on drug dealer. And then he lost his track. I hear your. Kid in Ashland. I think it's obviously really tough question to answer. But, you know, I think she probably deserved it. I have been yelled at my teenagers on the internet. I'm kidding. Girls are means she probably said on the terrible. A lot of. A lot of. I think that criminals are just, you know, we can do crime. Shane how much did you flip that brick for? Yeah. Great question, actually. So okay, there's one person who does know the one thing that I was pulled by did consult with an attorney before coming onto spot gut. It is imperative that I not named the actual figure that I hold it for because some legal reasons that he cited that I don't understand. But basically, it was it was enough money for me to go and buy, like I say lightly used late model Honda accords somewhere in that price range will give you a range, because I think I saw you put a number out there for how much it's worth on the street. I think I do believe I saw that whether it was from your forty. I would say if you that, that I know a lot about selling heroin, but I do understand. I'm a Costco shopper. So I understand buying and bullets. How? Even though the statute of limitations has expired on the crime of selling a brick of hair when the government can still come after you for tax. Yes, the irony. Yeah, I, I so you still hope for ten dollars. Dollars. Yeah. You saw two thousand dollars. Good for you. Man. -gratulations. -gratulations. Three hundred dollars. Yeah. It was it was enough for me to, you know, have a little bit of money saved up. And, you know, if you're smart with it, and you don't go in all I'm not gonna teach people out of money under a podcast, but the trick is to not put it in a Bank account people tend to ask questions about where you got it. So, yeah. Life tip don't do that. We all watch the. I want to let you know, I can't thank you for the entertainment that you provided Twitter. I can't wait to see what you do as a screenwriter. Now. I'm pumped up man for you. Congratulations on becoming literally celebrity overnight. And I hope it all works out for union hope. Government doesn't get you opium as thirteen doesn't get you and hope you go on to great things. I appreciate you so much at I am Shane Morris. Thank you. Thank you chain. Actually, I've questions now. How do you the number? Well, I don't know. Quick. That's why didn't you ask that question wherever you was here? Literally taking days. I what number what number his number? How did you get? What do you mean? How do you get his number because he called him when he was in Atlanta number? His name was on the paper. But you don't know who's number. Yeah, you're right. Tyler's name, so they would call Tyler firs not him the that was the fourth time that I heard it when you just read it, I also had a problem with the seven mile walk back from the hotels about two hours. And for some reason they weren't getting back until after he got back to the hotel. Why, why aren't they going back California? Why are they in an Ashland? Great question. Long drive. So go for you. You should ask these questions. I forgot you need a better person to read it. I thought he bought it from Tyler and put it in his name, we need, you mean talking about what are you talking about? We need to have it. He didn't go back to the dad to do that. He just gave him the money. What do you what do you mean? Like him reading it or myself reading, hat, just remember that's not going to be on the show all on the show right now. Yes. Yes. Yeah. What we're doing right now is on the show. You. Well, then you also stepped on Evan asking very good question. Oh. Shane bought it from Tyler. So then it would have been in his name. I thought you have a Shane didn't go to Tyler the original owner and say, hey, I just bought this from Tyler unless you can look that up. I scar records and since he. The data at one point had the VIN should ask stuff when they make this movie. They're going to have to disconnect those, you know, themselves in the store, they're gonna have to show him giving these number for some reason to the dad, so that it makes sense, maybe talented have a phone. I mean it was whatever year. Yeah. That'd be also right in the movie Tyler's out of the picture. It's, it's Shane by the van. Yeah. Yeah. Cut him out. I think it is going to be a movie though. It is or they just they bought the story, so that no one else can have it. And then it'll just sit in development, hell forever. Miles teller is going to be the actor. I hope Jaques, who is that Jack's DOE. Charlie hunnam. Probably too much of a bad s who's miles teller? Vinnie PAZ movie know footloose. He's the guy from that drum movie that gets yelled at. Yeah. The moment. We actually says Dame's. Biles. Footloose swayze's dead. Kevin bacon. Do you think supply? I don't know. He said he said he's six three two hundred and Channing Tatum. Nice. Oh sweet spot for him. That is kitsch Taylor kit. Good. One. Good one. Jason segel. Are we going to watch? Humor any do dramatic. Actor. Size because I think you're you should be an executive producer. I'm dead serious. I think the shot of the in Mexico at the horses is going to make some goodwill. The two lane road that trip the whole thing, and then the intensity of that deal with Park Rangers, going to be good in than the intensity with to gang bangers. Why didn't they go back to the mechanic shop and kill him mechanic? Yeah. Because mechanics, the only other link because he said, it's my. Right. Yeah. The people that live at the fake address. He provided they're dead. Only sign those fuckers. It when they make the movie they're going to have to make it to where they catch him having they take him out. I mean, there's going to be a lot more conflict there. Not also be interesting to see. Is like whether they play it like a comedy. Or if it's just like a straight up thriller, the entire digs or said slanders against gushing joined our show, dude. Also, what was he doing in Miami? I wished I would ask this dummy Vinny, what he was doing in Miami for like two days. And in those two days, he's got the twenty seven hundred to bike, like probably bartended, maybe bartend cash. Yeah. Doing some make to grant park ridge leagues. Digs digs. It's been cynical about this guy, literally since he read it the first time, a verify. I mean very important question. He got out of the house fire. Okay. He got out of the house fire. He got the brick with them, correct? He flipped the brick to Seattle. Right. And then the phone call comes it. Why is he running back into the burning? I don't know because he, he wanted a little bit more money because he was doing five thousand dollars. But he's fed if he made up to we don't know. But imagine if he doesn't with this story. Thanks Shane more. Good luck with everything, by the way. For sure. Well, there you have it. Mr. Justin James watt. A song debut, which is a banger run wall run wall. And also a chat with a guy who just sold his story and is becoming a screenwriter all because the power of social media and Twitter. There was a lot of people in the room, that didn't really believe this guy's story. I was not one of them. I have a big fan of this. I think he's lucky to be alive. I think he was wild for going back and trying to get more money out of situation. But he did it and I also happy that he's gonna make it good for Shane Morris hope to your more from him. I hope to your more from you as well. Tweet us hashtag en gang. Hashtag endgame in send us, whether or not you think Shane Moore's story is going to be one re ends up dead or alive. Honestly, it's kind of he took quite a big risk this movie gets made. He's going to be thrust into the spotlight times a billion. They're going to know where he's. I don't know. Man. I'm pulling for great story. Cool guy. Great show. I enjoyed the hell out of today. Tweet us has hashtag en gang. Hashtag endgame. If tie Schmidt likes what you have to say, you'll get some free March other than that. Thank you so much for flexible, this today for myself at Tom mccombs at digs with Z at Nick Maroteaux at, hey, Gorman at Zito at Schmidt. Not Evan foxy. We can't. Thank you enough. You're the greatest humans on earth. Cheers, I Schmidt. The music. But. Baby's got on his feet seen knows how to keep paint. 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PMS 2.0 161 - Live From The Boom Booms. JuJu, Kyle Van Noy, And The Incomparable Doug Flutie. Real Feel Good Super Bowl Friday

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PMS 2.0 161 - Live From The Boom Booms. JuJu, Kyle Van Noy, And The Incomparable Doug Flutie. Real Feel Good Super Bowl Friday

"Hello it's Friday January thirty first and I'm currently recording live from a hotel in Miami Florida. It's it's very very nice. It's it's set up like little van. I don't WanNa say the name because I don't WanNa make anybody's life miserable who's also staying at this hotel l.. Just in case you know from down here obviously forget up in the morning then our show from radio row taking off at ten. AM with drew. Brees fucking drew brees at the radio row. I think that'd be a good time ferry loud pool. Oh party happening directly next DOOR PROBABLY THE LOUDEST BASS I've ever heard my entire life in that. That is saying something because my brother and Nick Maroteaux and others were in car clubs. They used to put twelve in the back. Because anyways the boom booms on store in tomorrow's GonNa be Pretty Electric Day of belief among with rich Eisen. I think it's well now. I have no idea one. I don't know somewhere in that that time. Catch up with him chat with him. It's GonNa be a great day in the conversations we have for you today. I think you're gonNA like I think you're gonNA enjoy these pretty solid. I mean I I asked him real questions as some people here today. Juju ask some real questions. I think I think the situation between him and Antonio Brown is an interesting one land. Ask Him about it very much in the camp that I hope Antonio Brown figures it all out and gets back in the league and becomes a great member of society and keeps moving moving. I hope that very much but whenever you hear this Juju answer. I think you're GONNA be impressed with juju mightily today. Show is brought to you by seek the greatest ticket buying platform on planet earth. And all the boys in my lady over there eating so they won't say the mood if you're going to buy tickets to a live event right here on earth like for instance. I'm sure there's tickets fucking boom boom party happening next door right. Nobody Out this thing but they wanted to. I'm thinking about the tickets through because CQ has tickets to everything. COMEDIANS comedians. Sam Funny Shit on the stage. It's a good date concerts watching just elite individuals just completely savage of guitar or singing the hell out of a song and how about the live. Sporting event super bowl's coming up superb. Al I'm not sure I'M GONNA say it in the end the basketball you name it. They got tickets for for everything and right. Now you use Promo Code Pat the ten dollars off your first order. Promo Code McAfee twenty dollars off your first daughter all right. Let's get to the damn show here. It's a good today. I'll be traveling with a few of the boys down to Miami for the Super Bowl. The last time I did this the last time I traveled to Miami Super Bowl I was playing in the game and all week leading up to the Super Bowl. Friends and family were chitchatting. It's the biggest game of all time and I was twenty two year old. Twenty two years old had no idea how to punt was riding the coattails of peyton manning after four years or riding the coattails of Pat. Lighten Steve Slate. And I mean I was riding coattails into these magical months sugar bowl fiesta bowl gator bowl whole monarchy car care bowl in now we had won fourteen straight games in the regular season. I didn't even know how to but it didn't matter. We had peyton manning quarterback and a great defense then. We chose to lose two games which everybody was very upset about the. Oh Jeez deem like we want to knock out the seventy two dolphins for being the only team that was undefeated but bill. Polian made the decision for us to rest the starters the last two weeks because we didn't have to play them or have to win. We don't build advantage. We win. We get to the Super Bowl. Oh my God confettis flying. We're going to the Super Bowl and we take the trip down to Miami. It was incredible Peyton. Manning took us out the first night to dinner and then some drinks afterwards. Get a nice night's sleep. The next night I went out with the defense we ought to a couple of adult ballet's we had a great time. It was wild evening thing and then we all kind of hunkered down for the rest of the week. The you know what everybody we got a party out of us. We're down here in Miami. We we got everything we can put a potentially coming to us on Sunday. We got to play the New Orleans. Saints drew brees. Let's go ahead hunker down so for the entire week. We did. Our practices and practices. Were different. Because you've got all the stars are coming out. We practice at the Miami Dolphins facility which is very nice place by the way he got palm trees very windy. I mean there was a nightmare to punt. It might as well not even did anyways over the place Chris. Berman was walking. There was like people. Just come into our practice. That weren't normally their shaking hands. Kissing babies. There was an entirely different world. Obviously XLII but when I was talking to my friends and family like hey man you could potentially be kicking off the super bowl and I was like well. I don't think about that. That's going to happen sucking so now as we get closer to the game like you're gonNA kick off the Super Bowl. You cannot embarrassed your family and your friends like that's not gonNA happen. Don't worry about that so he finally did. After Game Day. I got to warm up. I get a chance to talk to Dion Sanders right there. Lifelong dream being a big fan of that guy. I'm putting to Reggie Bush in the game so I strike up a little conversation Masuma Dion. He has no idea exist obviously go. Hey Matt Reggie Bush's returner. What would you do if you were me? And he was like keep it out his hands. Boy Well Well Dion I wish I could control punts like you think I could. I have no idea where this is going. I was drafted opponent of knowing how to then as the game continues to go on. I see my family and friends in the top row of the stadium. Top top top. Row The stadium. Obviously when you're a rookie punter you get a lot of pull with your super bowl. Tickets in my family was at the top row. They were literally. They could've rappel down the outside and stand him if they wanted to write so I drove down on the field. I see him up there and I'm like man. This is awesome. You know this is really cool to be here. This is just for opening warm ups or whatever it might want friends you're gonNA kick off the Super Bowl Guy. I don't even think about it. I don't anyone think about it as the game goes are as the warm ups. Go on I want to get a picture of my dad's got a camera you know. It's like a magical moment. I have to go over to where the super bowl forty forty four sign is or whatever on the field drew. BREES is on her warming up through my Dad Modesto carry you get the hell out of the way. Yeah boy so I stand. Take Picture with my dad. How's it going on to see it's you know it doesn't feel like it's a real game? The crowd is a dominant saints crowd. It's on a dominance imminence colts crowd. It's just like an interesting crowd very corporate. You've got a lot of people that just goes so. Just everything felt different in felt weird you know and as I go back inside Vegetarians. He's looking at me. He's not playing in the game because he was like. Hey there's only been a few people have kicked off. A super could vinnie. I'm already here for my friends and family. I don't need to hear from you that isn't Massimo and I'm not prepared for you so we'll get prepared for it potentially have hope not so we go out there and you got the national anthem. Carrie underwood sang she crossed. Obviously it was a great singing performance and then it came time for the coin. Toss and I'm just kind of walking around on sideline and they go out there and drew brees calls it boom. They win the Super Bowl or they win the coin. Toss and I go no. He's GonNa want the ball. Drew brees the saints have won the Coin Toss and they have elected to receive. And I'm like damn it here. We go so I hi The equipment manager that was talked to his. Name's FROG FROG had mitee every time fraud. Kim comes up to me and he goes. Hey give it a ride kid and I go how about you. How about you? Don't worry about it you're gonNA be okay frog. What if I hit the worst opening kickoff in the history of the Super Bowl? He's like you're not. You're going to be good. I it was like I feel like there's a chance I could at some point. Somebody's GonNa have the worst kickoff in the history of the Super Bowl at some point. Somebody's GONNA kick the set of balance. That could be me today. He goes no no no not you pet but if it it was pretty memorable. Oh my God so I get the tea and I go onto the huddle I pat. You WanNa kick left kick right. Let's just hope. Hope I get it off the team. Painless I WANNA kick it demonstrating okay. Let's just do that. We're just do you sure you don't WanNa kick left. I just want to get it off. The T. Okay you've got so I go out onto the field. I put my down in. This is the first time in my life. I've really been incredibly nervous my entire life. This is the first time I've ever been incredibly. Did we nervous. I played in a lot of big moments and missed some big kicks but I was never nervous. I think it was always because I had a lack of nerves almost kind of too relaxed in situations. This is the first time in my life. Where accurate feel my entire Sphinx? Just tied up as tight as a capacity we get. It was tighter than new Atlanta Stadium. When I was so nervous I go down? I put the T. down and I look up in the Skycam like right here and I'm like well. Why is that there? I mean so I go down act. Like I'm fidgeting what the Teagan I looked back up in the REF walks over to me and he hands me the ball and he goes Good luck today. Man if you're GONNA hit an onside kick just let us know whatever. I'm not hitting an onside kick. What's your name names Greg? Congratulations on getting a rough. The Super Bowl he goes congrats UTAH. Utah like let's see. Let's see if this is a celebration mom or not. He hands me the ball and he goes good luck. And I'm like Youtube Greg. So Greg backs out Greg. Steve's his name I put the ball on the tee I look back up skycam still just staring at me. I'm like well this thing. Get the hell out of here so as an act like putting the ball back down again skycam goes flying out on like US awesome so I take my steps back in the first time in my life I really like took it in the moment my now my God. I'm kicking off the Super Bowl right now. Well this is pretty cool and I normally would point to the farthest Guy Right. See if he's ready like. Hey you ready over there. Farthest guy left you ready over there that gives a signal to everybody else on the kickoff team that we're about to. This is the first time I looked to my right. In the way. Kickoff teams are counted is outside and it goes one two three four five. And then you let your L. One two three four five my why are five. His eyes were glued open. It looked like I've never seen anybody that either scared or focused and I like looked at which we ready ready all right and you ready up. I look up at the play clock. Whereabouts get a delay game on the opening kickoff at the Super Bowl? After all of this magic so I go running at the ball and as I get about three yards four yards away from it flashes. Just start going. Oh my is my penis. Take all my God flashes everywhere. I barely even make contact with the ball. It gets off. Obviously there's incredible incredible photo that my mom and dad have house kicking it off and it wasn't the best kickoff in the history of the super bowl but wasn't the worst a- and that my friends is damn good news. I'M EXCITED TO GET DOWN TO MIAMI. I'm excited to do the radio row thing tomorrow morning. I'm excited to watch one hundred. NFL season come to the end this weekend. And although it brings up terrible memories in hindsight I really wish we would have won the coin. Toss in got the ball because that that second half kickoff really ended up to be pretty important play in the history of the things. Sean Payton talked about that this morning on profootballtalk. He said they were banking on basket bailing and instead hank basket didn't bail took a bad hop before the before he could get the hang of it in the hold of it and I'll tell you what does life was never been the same since that moment and there's a lot of people that get blamed for the loss of that game and none of them are meat and I feel it's very very good about that but there's obviously a lot of memories here and none of them are good. None of them are good. I mean getting the Blitzer. Zor Boy guesses cool. Getting the kickoff super bowl is cool. Beheading back down there. It's basically. They're having a celebration of the saints team. That won ten years ago. Everything I mean. It's just I can't wait to get down there joining us now representing putting on for Gatorade more specifically boat twenty four a a pro bowler and Internet sensation. A man who is an absolute stud on and off the field ladies and gentlemen wide receiver of the Pittsburgh's Burg's diller's Juju Smith. Joe How are you brother. I'm doing great man. Thank you I appreciate you on the show. Hey No problem John. Thank you for coming on. You're a legend. Let's talk about both twenty four and what it means to you. And what ruins specific. What is Gatorade Undo? Boats only four thirty four Basically as a new product it's You know basically I use it for. That's right When I'm when I'm outside and I'm in the club and you know I drink body and heating. Obviously I use gatorade. Okay I respect the hell out of that I was with Gatorade for a while. Then I hopped over to pedialyte during where my party back together eight. Obviously it's optimal performance in both twenty four delicious. Now let's talk about you Ju- you were a guy who got it when it came. I'm to being an entrepreneur and everything like that off the field utilizing your platform in your incredible abilities in the NFL to propel yourself off of the field. Now I'm from Pittsburgh Berg right so whenever I saw you doing taking advantage of this type of opportunity off the field and becoming this super celebrity that you become gaming road and on Youtube I knew that there was a chance I was also somebody who was very active business wise while playing. I knew that there was a chance if any type of stumble in you're playing came whether it was an injury or or anything like that would happen. That ins in particular would hold everything that you were doing off the field against you. That's kind of happened this year by dumb people not smart people but dump people people did you get to hear any of that noise this year. You were riddled with injury. Beginning of the season coach passes away. I mean this was a tough year from you and for you in a lot of people who started targeting the Internet stuff like because of it. Oh for sure you know. We don't perform at the highest level to have high expectations The first year about always straight so much games much running stuff too many sponsors. He's doing too much stuff off the You know I think that's how it was but you know if myself focused got the noise Those are the things that I knew I was Gonna come with me here and all that stuff It was tough season. You know the situation. We have different quarterbacks personal injuries to my knees but then day a second my finish the season. You're no stranger so going through hard times I looked into your story a little bit your high school from what I read during your high school years. You were sleeping on the floor of garage basically what the rest of your family then you go the USC you become a superstar and then now you're in the NFL taking care of your family. It's a beautiful story of guy that goes now. I don't want to say rags-to-riches but from hard hard times good times is that something you'll lean on for whenever you get. Maybe you know people coming after you in a sad way that you're mentally tough to get through anything. Yeah Yeah for sure man. I think my mental very tough situation where you know I've been to the lowest Drake's star from the bottle so With Myself Mad about man I I. I didn't have any of this. You know I'm grateful for all of this humble so all I can do is go up here. You Never Ever Stop being the entrepreneur that your eye swollen you know the game will end at some point for everybody this entrepreneur in this real estate that you're gathering gathering on the Internet. We'll be here forever. It's very intelligent of you. I want you to let you know no matter what anybody says you can tell them. Go forty eight themselves automatically Samat say no problem. I did a lot of this whenever I was by not to your level but I did a lot of same thing and I knew that if I had any stumbles at all or I was much less important player team but I knew that if I wasn't perfect people are going to say things I saw happening to you and I was like. I hope he doesn't get shy or shy away from this now. I gotTA pivot. You became the number one guy which Lottomatica automatically becomes with a lot of pressure. The guy that you were in a wide receiver meeting room with Antonio Brown has been a known hater publicly of yours. Did you see this coming whenever ever youtuber teammates or this kind of come out of nowhere. Carrie came out of nowhere. Came out of left field on nights but any of this you know about you know the before her first couple of years like you know we always talked about being great and dominating and that's what we did. Last night we played with each other. We both idle thousand dollars or one hundred hundred catches Eh. What's going off to social media? Wise is pretty pretty crazy. This yeah it seems as if now this is from an outsider's perspective and actually had a pretty good relationship with Antonio Brown as I assume you did as well wherever started taking shots at you. I think a lot of people are like why is he acting like this towards Juju instead head of helping him out and building him up which. I assume that you guys did whenever you're in wide receiver. Is that accurate. Will you to a team. That was trying to help each other out for a long time and then all of this kind of just boo. Oh what is happening. Yeah minnows was you know we're kind of like no half handling. Let's both be great. Let's do this both retry go and and You know this will happen. You know with him and throws so. It's tough situation okay. So let's let's pivot to Mike Tomlin because what you guys guys were able to do this year without Ben Rothlisberger trading in for Minka Fitzpatrick being able to get as many wins as you did in a potential playoff run. Almost what is my tom and like as a coach does he get the. Why doesn't get enough respect? I think is other coaches. Do much why I think one of the best customer I've had is because he's so authentic. He's so real He keeps it out as he doesn't beat around the Bush on these is one of the coaches that he'll he'll tell you straight up you know how if you're GONNA lose your job or you're listening you're in you know how it is and it just so crazy because a lot of guys walk now I want to help you not might time is gonNA mean like no if you're not producing me this like we got other players ready to come home on a couch ready to place you on those guys that's always keeps through. What are you doing this off? Season to get better and football man. I'm training with training Tori talent. He's one on one session but he joyal other guys. Just get it lane losing weight AAC cutting up getting faster all routes and stuff like that so Trying next Ben Rothlisberger. Is this quarterback that has been perennially. Great I mean little legitimately massive numbers great quarterback but off the field. Sometimes he says things where people go. That's not what the League it. quarterbacks do this year while Ben was on the bench and while he was injured in out was he around. Was He helping out as much as possible. And how do you view your relationship with Ben Rothlisberger. The Samaritan ship then is amazing. Awesome you know. My first year is Kinda tough because he doesn't like our the series. I guess when you've had a guy who's being Fifty years plus and You know we had to work towards that group myself. I can play with him. And that's what I did our relationship with great You know this all this past season you know. He's been hurried entry since we do. You know he's been around actually. He's been traveling. He's been in office he. He's been helping us us out. He's just one of those guys and wants the best for the team. What's the streamer bowl? What's going on with that? and Are you GonNa win it. Yeah yeah man with my Google today Last year when I woke up on my solo player so cool man Sharon Bowles basically everybody else you as the beginning us by second to a two with Russian up for not playing a pro athlete. How long have you been in the game? You've been Gamer for the recent history here and are you worth worth a damn at it very very long time are you. Are you good. Yes stopping it. When you play imagine you throw the ball to yourself? Every time Yeah usually a Sunday game finally get the ball enough. I go home to its muscle. It also be a part of the prefight productions that on zone for the Jake Paul fight. What are you looking forward into? That man is my i. I'm super excited for you. Know just to be under zone. Hey our guys everybody out there mass cool to see a Jake Paul you know. Aw Man suicide there's a big youtuber All my family watches him as we pretty closely about judy you. You should go duck hunting with duck for YouTube video. That's just something I'm thinking. James Washington does it to our team. I think the idea about the experts pretty cool. What light that? And what do you do whenever you're thinking of videos concepts for your. Do you have a team with you. Oh you do a lot of great stuff like even Pittsburgh charitable stuff on your youtube. You do a lot of really good stuff. What does the process behind that whole thing? May Honesty meant by Monday. And you're GONNA do do this do it. So for example. Water balloon fight like two days before like it's almost like also like three or four hundred people showed up the big room. Find Pittsburgh talk for ten years and what's going on in the world our Russell how much I'll ask US pretty cool man the money you spend you make it back. Hey Man Dan hey a men Amen Ladies and gentlemen pro baller Guy who's going to get back into good graces with the city of Pittsburgh Berg next year whenever he dominates not that isn't already but just the dummies out there. Wide Receiver from Pittsburgh steelers youtube sensation about to be a streamer bowl champion and you can catch them on. Tonight's prefight production with zone. Juju Smith Schuster specialists. Hi That was interesting. came out of nowhere. I was excited to talk to that literally. The only thing to ask about was that because what do you call them. pooh-pooh Kabuki shoes. That's what he's called. But the thing that Tony around with. Do that like a lot of people from the outside now. Obviously we're learning more and more about Antonio Brown as the days go no one right. I think we're all learning more and more about him and it's only a brown. I still feel as if there's a chance for him to potentially turn us all around if he gets his mental health. Shut down right if you can figure out a way to get his chemicals chemicals balanced which is something that has to happen for some people inning. Get back with that. It'd be great if feels like that's what's happening. I'm no doctor but whenever going after Juju a lot of people were very I was like why is he going after Judah because he looks bitter whenever that happens and that's kind of what I think it's because Juwan team. MVP The year before an AB was not happy about that cares. He he does. I mean Yeah Judas and for people who come at Juju for like doing all. He's twenty three years old kid smart though. Yeah by the way whenever you're sleeping on a garage for whenever you're in high school and six siblings and just I mean now you've made it. It's like you know what I WanNa make sure that this money's coming forever ever and he's GonNa have to have a better year. He's going to have to now going. He got hurt. His coach passed away. There's a lot of things that fall into that especially being professional athlete. Whenever you're at seventy five percent you're not gonNA look as good as you did? 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Payton man of the year is a massive massive accolade the NFL. It's not an easy thing to accomplish. You're going to be good human. It's one care for the rest of your life. I was walk straight man of the year for the colts. I still. We'll talk about it and remember it to this day. Congratulations on all the incredible work in the in the community is that something. You really focused on yes. I do a big part part of who I am as a person I want to get back. You know. I've I've given sweat shirts off my back. That's what that's what I'm about you know. Someone's in need. I'm I'm they're for him and without my wife and is foundation the Vanoy Valor Foundation. We strengthen those in our communities foster care adoption adoption and struggling youth and we just WanNa give them success for the future and whatever it is they want to do. And that's what I WANNA do with nationwide I want. I want to take that next except nationally with them and I hope I'm pick so I can't take it. I hope you don't get it when you win. Do you have an award speech plant. Hell no tile. You're very confident man. You're good on camera. You're good in conversation conversation. But some of those people that choose to go off the top of those awards viral moments for being terrible. I gotTa tell you a quick one. So the Patriots do One they give every year. It's the Ron Burton award right. And they don't tell you I go up in front on a all the sponsors for New England all my players and I say I'm so thankful for the family of Ron and before I even thought about it I almost said Burgundy and I and my body just like stop up and then one of my teammates like Burton's so after I get done I almost said right after Ron Burton almost a AH classy Sanjay anchor. Man You deserve to win the Ron Burgundy award as well every time you come on here I appreciate the hell l. out of your statements. Now obviously I have to ask you. This year for the Patriots was different. This was a different year for you guys. This was a different Europe there. There's there's a lot of conversation and chatter surrounding foxborough including you. I think you're a free agent is well. What is your few we go? Yeah Hey I I only only three eight and I know Tom Brady a little better. That nobody's talking about Calvin L. now. I WanNA talk about Tom. Let's get it. We could talk about Tom. I've been I've been throwing up storms over here. I've one radio show. I said he's retiring the one he's going to Las Vegas to walk out of the country. I saw in dorms. We're going to have a hell of a time answering all my own artifacts so for the PAT McAfee show here. What do you think is going to happen with Tom? Brady I think Tom Brady is GonNa stay at home off. He's going to Miami uh-huh in there. You loved it down. There is no like warm weather. He likes more all of these things. Things are legitimately possible. Let's talk about your future though. What is your plan? What are you thinking well? You just had an incredible season. That defense was dominant. You gotTa be thinking that things are going to be very good. Let's see you this off season. I as you hit free agency. Yeah I think I'll have some option I want to do. What's best for my family? And I. I want to set up my my little legend Financially so obviously he's going to work his ass off that ain't happening but if things go south you ought. Aw I'll have a plan set up for him to be can take care of himself. What's your little legends name? Oh trae legend. I forgot what his nate. That's an incredible day. That is absolutely incredible. Now here's a question winning the Walter Payton Man of the year in New England is a massive deal because that means you've taken care of that community and beautiful fashion. Now you're hitting free agency. Is that something that's GonNa way heavy. 'CAUSE you're big community up here it is I. I would love to stay in England and not only because of the fan base and what Massachusetts now means to me but more importantly the players the friendships that I made with some of those players runs deep. You know they're gonNA be there my brothers for life what we've gone through. I know you said it's a different season in New England just because we lost and didn't go to the Super Bowl but we made the play offs. How many teams can say that and not many? We did that and obviously we didn't reach our goals. But I like how people say the different in New England only because we didn't make the super bowl which is absolutely insanity coast still. We had a good special teams and it just didn't end with the right result. We wanted to add Megan. It to talk. Isn't that insane though. That really is what this all spurs around the fact that the New England patriots didn't make the Super Bowl. The Super Bowl is like a home for you guys. Shane made like h straight pro pro bowl or something like that. So they're like hey. He has a little legitimate walker at the pro bowl. If you guys have a legitimate locker room at the Super Bowl that's what it's felt like for the last twenty years so anytime he hit that. That's a massive. Everybody's like Oh they're dead. Yeah I have a question for you. Do you feel because I feel that it does. They have the same juice this year that I have in previous years kyle. This feels as if you're asking a question that has a very personal personal reason behind it and maybe a little bit of no it's more. I'm more I'm speaking of New England. I'm not speaking of myself thinking of New England. Do you feel like the juice is different this year than previous years. Even go all the way to the steelers and cardinals game. I guess you're right. It does feel as if there's not as much use now granted devastating loss at the beginning of the week to a legend in sports world. Right so it became something and I think even if you guys were there that would be something. I would have dominated the first half of the week because a lot of them. You know what I mean. But you're a hundred percent right though. There's John Story lines coming out of the super bowl other than everybody wondering Patrick Mahomes is going to be able to defeat that defense and your is good defense. Speak good offense your defensive player. I assume you figure that. Oh that's tough I personally. I don't think these teams match up very well with each other. That's my personal. Take defensively offensively. They have strength and weaknesses on the niners. Offensively the chiefs have strengths and weaknesses. You know but the niners offense is really good. The chiefs defense is weighing. Good at late I I. Just don't think they match up very well and I think he's painting you. You think Eric Offense wins over this whole thing. Do you think mahomes would be able to figure it out. You think Andy Reid finally gets one first time. In fifty years the chiefs have been super bowl. Yeah Yeah Andy. Reid is a Helluva coach. Give them two weeks with the same thing with Shannahan. I think the niners will because they're going to get a nuff stop and I don't think chiefs defense. Will you have a question. Dick's Oh no I was just gonNa say earlier that he was saying that there's not enough or not as much which energy around simple I think it's because the fans are like fifty fifty split. When New England was in ninety nine percent of the country was ruining against knowing? Let's drive by Hate Hugo. Everybody hates us. I think when you come to our point by point along a lot of people a lot of people tweet me whenever you're on this a show that they don't want to like you they would like to hate you strictly because you're a patriot and you make it very difficult. That's something to think about going to this offseason or you are in Coke Mason. Jason You you you love. MD They hate. They hate the Patriots. Now I'd hate run deep even. Hey you even hate me but you gotta I respect it but I do think oh. Here's something I have to ask you before we get out of here. Joe Judge hired as a head coach. Good higher for the giants I think. So Oh I think so if he if you can yes. He's a ball of energy. If he can take his energy he has and consistently assistant Lee each and every day lying it up with that positive energy and not go. ooh All over the place. I think they're going to be really really good. 'cause he's a really good coach. He loves football. That's not me selling him. I should straight back. He loves football. I mean his country so speaking. He's all over the place when he gets going is money I he loves football I. I'm excited for him with the giant LASCO's giants right. Oh they have a lot of money off before we get out of here. Is that little so brace that you have on your left ring finger. The reason why the Patriots lost this year was a devastating injury. They're all my middle finger. Good Hey Walter Payton man of the year brother Will you ladies and gentlemen thank you. I appreciate it. Shout out sat out mazing man. They're great hey off the top. That's speech I can't wait to hear it. Ladies Gentlemen Calvin undefeated PAC man. What's gone? I'm not making your head bigger. I'm seriously I love what you're doing. You're killing it and I thank you so much. Good luck with your anytime Tom. You WanNa come on here you let me know okay. I'm in the hair he's a he's a good dude. Yeah Classic Dick Dude Man Class about as good as they come and everybody the first time he's on the show all anybody said was man. I don't WanNA listen to this because I would like to hate the Patriots. Any any makes it very difficult to hate the Patriots. He's a free agent though and they just had a monster year defensive Golfer New England normally you could sell a team has goodbye when they they cut a player for another team. Picks them up right so there for a while on our team. We cut a player. Nobody who pick them up the Patriots kind of player. That person has claimed on waivers the next day it's like. Hey we trust US ballot. Check enough that. If he brought them in a reason he was in their dominant there. He's going to the market. There's GonNa be a lot of money for a little legend Film Junkie Film Rat Fred Fred Warner who's a budding young linebacker another. Byu Guy Loves Kyle. Van Noy said he's the reason he's as good as he is now. He's improved as much as he is because he vanoise the guy who taught him. Hey you gotta watch film like this. That's been oi does for a lot of the other guys around Walter Payton Man of the year huge. That is that is something that says. Hey off the field this guy stop. Stop just as much as on the field for Calvin welcome back to the booms. They're still going over over there. I don't think there's a single human at the party. But they have been either testing the sound system to Max or they've been having a party for just a couple of people in a couple a couple of people just running the whole place out. That's what I'm talking about honesty. That's what I'm talking about. We've we parked to play. There was more yachts in more more big planes that I've ever seen in my entire life ever. There might be more money in Miami right now than any other city. Divide problem thank you. There's a lot of rich people here. And if to rich people just running out this entire Party and having them play Max speakers. That's my favorite. The thing I've ever heard it could be happening. There's here's digs by the way digs just came into the conversation. We're standing at the end of a two time. Olympic length pool. Is that an accurate statement. Two time Olympic length pool. We are in a place that we should not be people walking by that. We don't know obviously palm trees everywhere in the boom booms. Next door's still pounding now. I want to ask you one question question when what was the last time you were driving through torn thought. Wow I love you nope I love not. Those words are blending together. Not being being able to see when I drive. Yeah you probably haven't now driving in bad weather doesn't have to be a headache. Thinks New Michelin Endurance. Xt Silicone wiper blades. These blades last through everything. Thank Tie Schmidt steps up to bat out of the park into the river verve. Michelin just put their new endurance. Xt Silicone wiper blades to the ultimate test on a world record breaking sixteen eighteen thousand mile job from Alaska to show you just out durable these blades. Rainiers Zeitler was the man behind the wheel wheel and he put the Michelin Endurance. 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He knew you were good at that when you did that. dropkick was there any panic or chance. If you just completely shaking off. The back of the head and offense alignment crapshoot. No doubt about it. It's a drop kick in the middle of that field dirt and bunches of grass and I had to find a nice smooth spot it was. I kept my fingers. 'cause you could have gone anywhere then. A Terry actually was on the brink of breaking records with the Patriots. Or maybe a league record. Kurt and I kicked drop kicked the last regular season point of the regular season. You had to wait until the following year to break the record. He wasn't very happy about it but it was fun. Moment when I hit it I knew I hit it solid and it was up and drew and all that but seriously Very good chance. That could have gone anywhere and it was the last play my career and if I missed that my wife had the live live with me the rest of the last guy I would have been one frustrated I that was the last time you stepped on the field to last place. Did you knew it. You knew it going out there to this. Is it for me. This is the last one. I've had this legendary career in Canadian football league. I've come over to the NFL. I've had fantastic thing. I did great in college. This it all comes down to the final taste in my mouth. Is this complete now. I'm a pretty good drop kicker but if you had to ask me in the middle of the game I have no idea how would go with the timing and everything it all comes down to this for your taste of your mouth forever. I did not know that. Yeah I and my wife's in the sand thinking the same thing she goes. I'm going to have to deal with this if you mrs as to what was going on and I I realized I'm not gonNA play in the playoffs. Who Got Tom Brady? We got well Matt Castle. was there at the time I wasn't gonNA play. Brady's GonNa win the Super Bowl Ring. Hopefully and She's up the Sam Stein explained to people when she sees me out on the field. She knows what's going on and she's telling her friends. Oh my God he's GonNa drop kick all my there's a what. What are you talking talking about? No way so It was it was a health moment for her. Thank goodness they'll check told me like the two seconds before I ran on the field. 'cause we attracted to do it a couple of weeks earlier and ended up not doing it and hadn't even talked about it for two week. Spur of the moment. I didn't have time to get nervous. I just ran out in the middle. They were happy for you. That's not easy to do. You're stuck with that now. Let's talk about Tom. Brady who you just mentioned in their gay. He's older older. You played until you're older. I think you could still play right now if you had to. What do you think is a realistic expectation of Tom? Brady here to finish out his career I think he i. I don't think he wants to end on a pick six. I don't think he wants to end on a bad taste in his mouth. He still is playing a supremely high level I think I think Tom got two or three years if he wants him. I it's all in motivation. What motivates it's a guy at his age that has had success? He had For ME I. I'm still trying to prove people. I can play it at fifty seven years old. So that's why I played. Well I played Joel Forty three. That's why I kept playing as long as I did. Tom Doesn't need that but he still is driven. And as long as he's drew physically. It's it's not a problem. His arm is still there. The mental capacity gets stronger and stronger for him and he still has that fire and that fires there. You can play as long as we want. I needed to play at at forty three years old for me to be successful. I had to be athletic. I still had to make people miss and move around. Tom Doesn't need to do that. He needs his art. You're in standing there. And he still has the so the feeling I mean he could play on. She wants to play but it it it comes down to. How driven is the fire? Still there and right now the TB twelve treatment. I mean it's very I don't know if they have the flutie flakes in the TB twelve. Lifestyle is have you ever. You heard of anything like morning routine on the TV twelve or thirteen the TB twelve. Thing is something that is captivated the attention of a lot of athletes though this ability to have pliability in your muscles Ph levels and then the food that you eat and all that stuff. Is that something that you mess around with lighter later Judas trying to be. I stopped at McDonalds on the way to the facility. I grab pizza at night but I I just feel. I'm GONNA eat what I want to run an extra five. Hi Miles. I don't care I I was a workout nut but my thing was I didn't lift weights heavy. I did very light lifting. I looked at my legs a little bit Iran hills. Walter Payton taught me to run hills when we were in Chicago together That was my leg strength. I was about flexibility pliability and just stay in loosen nimble the extra five ten pounds of Balkh. We're not gonNA save me from getting her from a two hundred and eighty three hundred pound guys so I always wanted to be quick white on my season flexible and it wasn't a science for me but I think things are geared that way now. I think people that all these injuries I I agree with. It's it's the flexibility especially as you get older which is much more important. Okay so you just mentioned a man's name there who's up has an award named after him for being a good human and Walter Payton. Now you've been around the NFL the NFL all these legendary players whose one player that sticks out in your mind you go. Damn that guy was a freak return on the football field athletically. Yeah athletically the first day while for me in Buffalo Eric Moulds it wide receiver. It was crazy to me Eric. Moulds was he got me the pro bowl. That's all. I emailed US one on one. He's getting the ball on throwing not the other. I played with Walter Right at the end of his career. So Magana and Tomlinson came as a rookie in San Diego carrying the football and he guys missing a phone booth. We were playing the Patriots. Unblocked defenders coming through a hole in a simple die play. He made a little jump. Cut made a mis- or Patriots up through sixty four yard touchdown run His sheer ability to accelerate make people miss Was Crazy Tracy but for me guys I played with those are the two that stand out the athletically. I should have done more research. You're in Buffalo Chicago. The chargers New England CFL anywhere else. USFL DONALD TRUMP NEW JERSEY generals my rookie year. That league lasted the show. Title Herschel Walker with my Tailback Maurice Carson at full-back kept whole perennial pro bowler with our center. We had fifteen guys on that team. Go to the pro global later. I'm surprised trump doesn't use that in his speeches. Now I started League fifteen. Everybody's talking about Tom Potentially leaving New England in going and playing somewhere else and they're like you know the grass is always greener when he go to another organization you've played in three different leagues different facilities different organizations. Is there something to that thought that Tom Think about are you. Do you find respect everywhere but the number one thing is staying in the same offense per year after year after year com has built on that you guys can come in. You can line people up right away. You can make adjustments on the fly. You can see things on the field you can do things with terminology. That just are instantaneous reaction. Because you've done it before. We did this five years years ago against Green Bay. We did this against who all that goes a long way to your comfort zone if you go to a new team new people new terminology. It's starting over and it's nice. It's very difficult. I bounced around a lot. That was my biggest frustration in my career was I couldn't stay in the same system for a long period of time and continue to build on and that is a big big fan of it and then you can go into a situation with pitas just not as talented and you don't even have an opportunity to win okay. So like for instance right now. Philip rivers is in Florida. He moved his family from San Diego to Florida. He wasn't willing to move to Los Angeles when he went to Los Angeles. But a lot of people are saying there's potential interest from the buccaneers and Philip Rivers. That'd be a brand new offense. It'd be a Bruce Arians. Offense is it. Is it going to be very difficult for these quarterbacks who have all this experience experience in the NFL. They've been there done that with everything. Philip rivers hasn't won a super bowl a damn near everything else. He's done it. Would it be that difficult to pick up a new offense at this later stages life you can pick it up. There's a difference between knowing the offense and know when you read and then no one like the back of your hand on and and being able to call on things instantaneously with the shot clock going down the three seconds on the play clock and I want to change the protection and I want to get a to a route because I see this or that. It's something you've done for fifteen years it's automatic to you. You recognize things and you know. Now you recall is is that what do we call that. Okay we'll call it and you're late or there's just that little bit of hesitation it's just different. It's not the same level Mr Facility. WE'RE IN INDIANA. I take frequent ships to south. Bend all they talk about getting urban Meyer as the head coach of Notre Dame. You have any insight into that. I don't I think careful what you ask for Brian Kelly is one ten in four years in a row with ten wins undefeated needed seasons playing for National Championships playing in the College Football playoff just a year ago. An eleven win season this year. And he he'd going undefeated speeded and got beating the College Football playoff a year ago and this year went eleven games and I have somebody walk up to me in southend say. When are we going to be good and only one team wins it all? I think he's got a phenomenal job. there's different. There's different challenges at Notre Dame the academic requirements with Brian. Kelly will not and and he said it's a big issue. He's like you know what we used to bring one or two that. Were marginally year that maybe we should get in when you spend seventy percent of your time trying to keep that kid. Eligible fight putting out fires and trying to help the kit. You spend seventy percent of your time with one or two kit. It's not worth it anymore. They don't make that big of a difference for your program to have those so he just you know he's going with this quality kids that meets recommendations nations the requirements at Notre Dame. And and. That's what you have. They still had a lead athletes especially in the defensive line that go top rounds and play in the NFL. They have that caliber caliber. Talent without having to deal with a lot of the issues with you. All Right Doc. Before we let you go working by flutie flakes at I'm a serial tweak flutie flakes dot COM We brought him out again. This year I went up to buffalo phenomenal visit and they were jumping off the shelves again. It's all for autism in your foundation brokers and so it's all the support that WHO's won the super bowl this weekend. He matured most points quarterback. The guy loves spread reading them out willing to be on playing and There's just a lot of speed on that offense. I know the pass rushing scraped from San Francisco. That's the big match up. But I'll Casey Ladies and gentlemen legend in the football world flutie flakes Creator Duckling. Thank you thank God now. Joining US new head coach of the Washington Redskins a man who could've taken any NFL job after what he did for the Carolina Panthers the legendary Dairy Riverboat Gambler. Ron Rivera. I'll tell you with the build up like that. I better not screw it up. Well coach my my first question. Thank you so much for joining us by the way. Congratulations on the GIG. Why did you could've taken? I don't know if you know this but the rest of the world knew this. You could've taken any job you wanted as the head coach because of how high revered you are by everybody why the Washington redskins well you know. What's interesting PAT was? One thing that I did is I was at. I got out of IT CAROLINA IN MY press conference I say look. I don't want to wait around. I don't WanNa take your I wanna get back into it. I love the Game Games. been outstanding to me And I just feel I still I have a lot to offer And so as I was going through the process and in reflecting the opportunity with the redskins came up and so I had an opportunity to to talk to several people. That knew Mr Snyder And a lot of positive things were said. And then I got connected with Joe Gibbs and coach Gibson. I spent some time on the phone talking Doc Then I had an opportunity may with Mr Snider. We talked about certain things He told me. Hey take a look at our lost so I started breaking down there. Ross I watched some game taper. Everybody I saw on tape. I wrote up. You know everybody from the kicker the long snapper to honor I wanNa make sure I got that in there for you had and then he did offense defense but then I looked at the roster on paper. I looked at how young that team was. I looked at the last three drafts and the success. They have those players. Those guys were playing a lot of football and they're playing pretty good pretty competitive They worked hard at competing. They didn't win a lot of football game but they were young guys play and I thought that that meant something for sin after sitting down with the owner talking about his philosophy on things talking about his vision The plan the process what he saw what he thought And then I shared my my outlook on things. We had a great conversation. When I finished I went back and I met with Joe Gibbs everything I talked about with starter Joe is right behind? We talked about that and it made me realize there's fitness. There's a there's a there's a good fit that's so interesting because now you know this the PR behind. Dan Snyder is not always a good. One assumes that you potentially had in your mind like hey. I don't know if I could do this and after after meeting him. You had a complete one. Eighty s accurate. I did I had a complete one eighty but also talking to several people that Mr Snider on a more intimate basis let it worked for and people that work with him and people who didn't work with them but from the outside in knew what was happening and so it's just interesting to hear their perspective. It really was and everything we think seemed to match up. I did not come across a negative person Other than people that were with them twenty years ago fifteen years ago what I heard all the positive the thing that people have worked with them in the last ten to five years. That's awesome to hear by the way can't wait to see you succeed there to succeed. They're going to have to make a quarterback decision right twain. In haskins there played great football at the end of the season. They were giving people headaches. Great teams they were giving him real headaches. Alex Smith is coming back from an injury. You have the number two pick you. You have a lot of big time decisions to make. Assume you haven't been finalized on any of these. The which way are you leaning in that department. Well the biggest thing is this one the philosophy that we carried into when I got to Carolina. And that was we had the idea who are franchise quarterback was we've got to be able to protect them with a positive offensive line and tight end. That can help a lot And we had to put playmakers only makers around us and so that was our plan going forward. Well look if you know what we have right now with the Redskins the biggest thing we noticed dwayne showed the prompt did a lot of good things that the young quarterback he was the first round pick. Remind me a little bit of our guy that we hadn't Carolina Alex Smith like you mentioned potentially coming back off the leg. If Alice comes back he city see any sums of the player he was in the past. We've got a good player there. We also have a good young developing player which means they're going to create some competition guys are gonNA push each other. Help them develop Alex History with Patrick. Mahomes is outstanding dealing with a young quarterback and we could get the same situation here again. OBI THAT ALEX is healthy. Thank you compete. You look at these this draft. There's a lot of big names at the top but it's also littered with very talented people. You have a very valuable pick their number two. Do you see a lot of work needed to the Washington redskins roster we take a shot on a big guy. You think it's going to be interesting. Everything is on the table. I mean we don't know what we're going to do with the number two pick. We you know what's going to happen in front of us. We don't know what's GonNa Happen in front of us. They've gotTa make a decision. I mention that he does. And then we'll go from there so we're GonNa take a look at everything we're GONNA play down we're GONNA we're going to interview players we're GONNA scout players we're GonNa go to the code as we're GONNA bring him out to see us. We're GONNA go through the entire process and we're going to weigh our options I'm nothing is set. I mean our roster steps but I do like who we have. We've got a lot of quality football players that we think we can add some more. Get them to buy into the way we want to do. Anything have to believe in the system. We have a chance coach. I don't want to ask you about the rear view mirror but its last question before I let you go. Carolina Panthers Higher Matt Rule They having massive decision. GonNa make down there with Cam Newton or do they go different direction from what you know of Cam Newton. How do you think he's GonNa Respond? And Bounce back probably camps healthy and ready to roll don't bet against could qualify knowing Cam. I've had for the last nine years I would never bet against him. I I just know that. A Healthy Cam Newton on the football field with a heck of a football won't man he. He's bigger than everybody faster than everybody. And he's a maestro. We played you guys on Monday night. Football down there and he was basically controlling the entire state of Carolina. It was unbelievable. That's that's that's the one thing about him is he orchestrated game and it's almost like he's playing because he he's things and and the Nice thing is we he's give you know we had given the opportunity to do certain things to make changes took to change place to create temple if he had to and again as I said the one thing we hadn't had in the last two seasons was what's the healthy camps everything he's done you know. He had the procedure on the foot. The shoulder he got arrested arrested all year because he didn't play after the second game so again if he's healthy if he's in the right state of mind I would never bet against coach. What are your thoughts on? Luke Luke retiring you know I had an option to visit with Luke beforehand. And just listen to them talk. It was one of those things where the right situation the right moment in time had come you know he. He had battled through several injuries Early on And then a lot of his guys were leaving there was a transition you should going on with your organization. So the timing for him he felt was right. I support him one hundred percent. I really truly do supportive. And I'm very happy for him that he made the decision himself. It's going to be coaching with you here in a little bit. Hey you never know what's going to go on with him. He's I'll tell you this much right. Now he's fishing and hunting right now coach. The Washington Ashington Redskins got a great head coach. Raw very happy for you to be back in the league. The League wasn't as good wherever you weren't. Coaching can good luck. Congratulations is and gentlemen Ron Rivera. Thank you thank appreciate a guy no problem good guy right there. Good director success. Good hires yet Scott Turner as OC Radio Radio Partner Jack. Del Rio's is defensive coordinator and you said it. There's a lot of quality said there's a lot of quality guys. Ross that Haskins performance at the end of the year a lot better than I think I even thought it was very interesting that he compared out Smith and Haskins mahomes like thinking. Hey maybe also gonNA start or good player. He's anywhere near there they'll battle also you get. Chase is young that changes things up a Bosa level. Yup Impact Player said Yeah. We're GONNA draft changed. Set it right there. Like Cincinnati gets borough. We'll take chase young. They've drafted really well in terms of quality defensive players last five years amen. 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NFL All-Decade Team, Jadeveon Clowney, Cam Newton, Jared Dudley + LeBron

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NFL All-Decade Team, Jadeveon Clowney, Cam Newton, Jared Dudley + LeBron

"The happy to the speaker yourself from the Crib Jason Whitlock Marcellus Wiley. Join you on this great Tuesday afternoon are we have a great show planned for you today rebuke or is going to be here. We'll talk some NBA. Warn SAD as bombers bill be here today and we'll talk some tabby bucky brooks is going to be here. We'll talk Cam Newton. We'll start by going to lar- ERRINGTON crip out in Pasadena and we'll start. They conversation brought to you by Popeye's chicken sandwich. Today's whitlow will start today where they conversation about drew brees leave and the NFL to hall of fame put out. It's two thousand ten. All decade team and drew brees was not one of the members only two quarterbacks elected to the team Tom Brady. Of course a no brandies went to many super bowls. He is the goat but Aaron. Rodgers edged out drew brees for the second quarterback position and to some people's mind. This is controversial. I'm not so sure yes. Drew brees threw for more yards than Aaron. Rodgers threw for more touchdowns over the last ten years but a-rod is has to MVP TROPHIES. A-rod has has a super bowl appearance in the last ten years. Drew brees doesn't have a super bowl appearance doesn't have an MVP but more than anything it rather than people being upset the jubilee should be in on the all decade team ahead of Aaron Rodgers. They need to look at the non. Pass interference call in the NFC championship game just two years ago. That's the reason. Drew brees isn't on this all decade team more than anything if they advanced so that super bowl and perhaps if they win the super bowl then drew. Brees does become the second quarterback on the all decade team. I think this non call here which I don't have a big problem with but a lot of people do I think the non call the NFC championship game is the culprit. Here in Y drew brees is in on the all decade team. Let's turn it over to Marcellus Wiley. What say you Marcellus to my contention that the controversial NFC championship off through Greasier? I don't think it's that isolated moment even know that obviously will be convenient for people to point at and say that's the difference. I think if you really look at them on the Field Air Rogers Beats Drew. Brees in a photo finish really close. I mean splitting hairs nearly but then when you talk about all the voting has gone on whether it's MVP all decade team NFL. One hundred whatever it may be. We know that other factors come into consideration outside of statistics so on the field. It's a photo. Finish off the field. I think Air Rogers and his star power actually drew brees by a couple of wins. Let's talk about air rodgers when he walks in a room with drew. Brees you sitting at the head table and you say oh. Aaron Rodgers is here and drew brees. We know which one gets more fanfare and I think that is a part of this consideration. So there's no slight to do breeze. Okay you're the third best quarterback of this decade look that's like being the fourth place finisher and Olympic. She could walk around the world and say am four faster than the world. But you didn't get the necessary accolade to get on the middle stance artists Dan. How may feel but it's no slight breeze comes up just a little short and really go into some of the numbers air rogers if you look at it. Five of his six best years were in this decade and then you talk about his worshippers three of his four washers work in this decade. You can't trim that much fat off the resume of Aaron Rodgers and him still being the most talented at the position ever and expect him to lose. The knowledge drew brees. I don't think it's a splitting hairs debate at all. Honestly I mean I like the argument that you make Marcellus but you cannot take accolades and brush them and pushed them off to the side and dictating. What greatness represents so the moment you sit there and you say Aaron Rodgers has won league. Mvp that's enough to one two zero here. We here we go it. You say why I know you say one right. That's enough then you get to more than right so to me. I don't even look. We can go into a whole lot of details about this that. Who comes into the room? The bottom line is when we're all done playing this game and you know there's just as well as I do when we come or job or we want to get an appearance or something like that. They're looking for the goal jackets first and then they go to the elites next and then they come to us. It's like the the next group of guys that they come to. That's just what it is. That's the reality of it and at the bottom line is you cannot put drew brees ahead of Aaron Rodgers for two simple backs. Mvp won MVP to done deal. I'm going to disagree with you for this reason. Lavar Marcellus argue the point that I thought it was going to argue in my favorite because I think off the field. It's a blow out the other direction in terms of star power likability whose brand will build round the associated with the NFL for the longest is drew. Brees the work. He's done in New Orleans the way he's seen across Lee in my view and again I I can't speak for everybody but but drew brees is the modern day. Walter Pate he is the embodiment of everything the NFL wants his players to represent the way. Walter Payton used to be and now they have the Walter Payton Man of the year when think of the man of the decade in the. Nfl is drew brees. And that's why in a photo finish again if you take. What breezes off the field and then if you added a super bowl appearance and perhaps a super bowl victory. I think the nod would have gone to do breeze in that scenario because just like Marcella said. It's a photo finish. We're splitting hairs. You get it drew brees and extra super bowl. He finishes ahead Aaron Rodgers despite the MVP. Bill I think if it's opt to have a debate yeah for me. Man. I'll be real. I play withdrew. Man Song get drafted early struggles in blossom into who he is right now and drew brees no doubt in a comparison of Air Rogers and drew brees breezes. Abetter human but he's not a greater star Ben Air Rogers and that's just the way it is. It's almost matter of fact if you watch all the montages all the Times that the NFL is Mitch in on our network other networks. Whenever they're talking about the game of Football. I'm really particular in this because I watched kingly to see what images they show. What faces what people you will count Aaron Rodgers more. You will count drew brees and all of the celebrations of the game. We talk about the game going forward. Maybe Air Rogers and his personality he'll be divorced from the NFL. He'll be the type that maybe doesn't want to be involved. This much drew breeze but trust me. They will still have to insert Aaron Rodgers whether he's participating or not drew. Brees is amazing person. Maze of personality can touch every corner of locker room without even trying these amazing person but when you talk about their q rating that star power whether it's the discount double check or just the fact that everyone loves to hate on Aaron Rodgers he just commands more tinsel just for me again. Yeah I gotta I gotTa push back on both of you guys. I don't think that the the blown call dictates this. I don't think that it's popularity off the fill that dictates who ended up on his list of all decade players again. You gotta to go back to the genesis of what you're doing and these moments if you look at that list the guy. Some of those guys don't have The cleanest track records and I ain't GonNa go deep into that so we were basing it off of certain things like that. Some of those people aren't on that list so I think if you're purely keeping on the field again at there's a person over here that's whole two three four gold medals but maybe a win as many races as this guy over here during the course of their career. You cannot sit there and say well this guy over here one more races but this guy and they're better than this guy even though this guy over here has three gold. Medals just does not work that way. It's not logical and that's the reason why Aaron Aaron Rodgers far and away the guy or two decades thing. I do breeze definite hall of fame. We're going to move on you Lavar. We're GONNA move onto other hall of Famer Warren Sapp. We'RE GONNA GO DOWN TO TAMPA AND VISIT WARREN SAPP in his Rehab. Speak for yourself. That's was brought by Popeye's chicken sandwich will be back with more after this. Speak yourself from the crib. We have a new segment. Jason Whitlock Marcellus Wiley. Visit some folks around America during the quarantine and check in on them. See how they're doing. I UP WARREN SAPP TAMPA Bay buccaneer great. Nfl Hall of Famer Superbowl Champion. I believe defensive player of the year warm. Welcome to speak for yourself and one started out kind of light. And just what's been the best thing you've watched on Netflix or Amazon prime during the quarantine? You know what I've been running up and down it but I gotta get a Banco love. 'cause that's no anthony. Mackie and Samuel Jackson and titled King was just something that I didn't even know understood what was going on in the biddle Tampa. I'm like wait a bit brass Gavin. I know exactly where that is but I've never been there so maybe that's a good thing so I ain't got any suggestions. Police amid email anything because the one thing. I do know I've watched a lot of movie. I've seen that I've seen that I just ain't seen and I haven't seen all right. I'll just say this homeland this last season's pretty good. That's worth watching it all right. Have you learned anything about yourself during this quarantine that I'm a lot more able to stay at home than I thought? Because you know me I like the ripper wrong fishing on traveling in. Oh do doing chase the kids but last twenty three days have been pretty good with myself other than you know. Just not being outside. Because I'm a Florida I love being outside of love fish but other than that pretty good all right. It sounds like the thing you miss the most probably mission I see I mean come over and nothing like being on the water which bathing water watching your line and there's nothing else out there but you in the fishing you reeling is going and I love it when she bends over is nothing like I mean I i. I don't know what's coming up but definitely waiting on the biggest news this off season. Obviously is Tom Brady joining your Tampa. Bay buccaneers What do you think what did you think when you heard Brady was joining your books lows a little crazy tomato? I? I'm like wait a minute but I do understand the weapons that we have it might Evanston Goodwin Oj. How and you know we put up thirty some points a game with James. Thirty minutes absence. Trout scored thirty six or seven. Pick six the other way so you know I called office to find out what was going on and you know floating bent too heavy on everybody doing the same thing so the guy called her office without fishing even bad about the situation so but we got him in the house of the places really really excited and the thing I'm excited about. It will be a full house shack. The rush the passer and not a lot of kids. Six is going the other way do that but at the same time. You're not getting Tom Brady. P powers but how much of Tom? Brady is still top level quarterback and do you think he's still have something to prove. I'll take a superhero. It is last couple of years just a game. We played but what we have to do right now. A temp is give them a laptop because Tom Brady has been sacked by one hundred times in. You know like I love this game. Ain't been in the last couple of years. We used to hit the quarterback with some fury and not morale got five hundred on them belt. And we gotta make sure that backside is protected. Handle everything in front them. Any good quarterback can do that. Well that's Ed's just a game is getting a little friendlier out there especially the quarterback. Tom Brady making mention of him. Playing potentially to the age of forty eight. You think you can do. It are forty five to forty eight now. I have forty eight in the city. Listen I'll be right here. Are you crazy though? I heard him say about myself. Well we Tom Brady Not Hamburg radio now straight. He's on his way in Jameis. Winston is on his way out. Please there's mystery in football. This guy won a heisman. Trophy number one overall. Pick what the Hell is the matter with James Winston? Why didn't it work out? You know from what I'm hearing. It was just the one thing that off about lives must do and that's go from the blackboard to the practice field and then from practice field onto the game field on Sunday and I heard reports of Okay James. We're GONNA play action. Pass it look shallow. Then you go up. Top is go play action. Pass look shallow any shallow. And then it'd be a pick and if he went up top Dow's wide open so you know when you go through that then you up. The amount attornal was in a different stuff. I understand why the book go with Tom. Radio James West but this young man. We'll find another job in football league in private because the one thing I know about it a prize in the pocket with the ball in his hands with any shot to win. If you give him a shot to win is nine times out of ten. Come through for you but that was just a band. Yeah no some bad. How Alexa came up with that. Why you look at that red zone. Big sixes not. What a franchise quarterback. Hopefully he's learned his lesson by them somewhere. Play the game but you know when the last time we seem three number one picks as free agents at one time one of those James Cameron's David cleven. Let's let's go somewhere. You familiar set it. Let's go into trenches with today? The cloudy never posted double digit sacks last year only had three sacks plan through the sports hernia injury and was commanding are Lisa asking for twenty million per year. What do you think the proper prices and where today cloudy could land as a pass rusher? I'd be cautious with today because I remember moaning about out of South Carolina and I remember saying it doesn't matter what he does and the National Football League he'll always be astonished how Carolina's Home State. It always be the guy that made that great play against that kid from Michigan and knocked his helmet off. You know he was coming on in his last couple of years down in Houston. Because you couldn't tell me that nine and out of the F. succeed he had he wasn't the best player on that descends down and store bill. O'brien made the decision to get rid of him and now he's our mortgage someone. Don't fire place for this manigault rush past because he's a talented young man and maybe he learned his lesson now. Being that is thirteen for number one pick. That don't require some working numbers that some from Young Man. You know when somebody says your name out as a pass. They can't say never had a ten season. They are stubborn. Sat You make a hell of a point and I think it relates to Cam Newton. A conversation we're going to have in our next segment. I think sometimes you can be to talented and talent can actually hurt your motor and I see today in clashes a guy who turned his motor on and off whereas when you're a six foot one three hundred pat you only have one choice warned sat. Your Motor has to rule it out what roles get off the dirt road. You gotta work. That's something he's never done. And that's something. I was questioning when he out. And it's the same thing with Myles Garrett you gotta put up the numbers and go out and show people you love this game. That will be here one hundred years after you stop playing with. They will find somebody else to rush to pass play first and second bow. I promise you they will myles Garrett you just mentioned him what did you think about the way he handled his situation with. Mason Rudolph and the whole Pittsburgh the whole helmet deal and then saying hey. I got called in Word or whatever your thoughts on myles Garrett while La. I mean if someone did that to you and you felt that way we all heard about it at Thursday night. I made a call to Pittsburgh Locker Room but I know Mike T and D and some of the guys over there pretty good. My whole thing was that was assault with a deadly weapon that man should have been arrested at about and understanding. Nfl football field and all of that but that was assault with a deadly weapon. Nobody which we not even to hit him in the helmet with my helmet on with their health at all when they catch the ball. You definitely not allowed to swing your helmet. No snatching off his head. And then he didn't with it. Oh my goodness I just to think about it. It really brings up really bad things for me so I just hope. My girls got some counseling and some treatment or something. We can come back from that US. That that's bad. No never won ever see that again. One thing about you sat man being one of your peers and obviously just respecting your game so much. Is You had a secret sauce. Something between your ears. Something that got you go on because you know only change the position but you continue to have that excellence consistently year after year. When people knew the double triple team you did not matter. What was the secret sauce? Share with the world avert role with no cable television and no act conditioning. That's why I growed up. Look at Plymouth Florida in my work. Three jobs for thirty six years. I was a baby a six and there was no way and game. I loved look on up. You watched Earl Campbell. You wash the Chemo Lodge. Watch Chris. Doleman God blesses soul. Bruce Smith I mean you growed up one day just wishing to play on Monday night football and now you know don't don't don't disrespect the game and leaving in better shape than you found it and treat it like the Queen. She is at the Golden Goose Egg that they late. I mean just love this game I mean I. It was not like playing a game in front of my mother. I was very fortunate that my mother was that a lot of my days. When Mamas Stan quarterbacks got to go down in the words of the Great Al Davis I didn't play. The opposing quarterback must down any must down hard. I sat a Bo Jackson behind. You and I left side on your right side or I thought that was I I thought that was. That's not Graham D'Amato brand D'Amato indestructible. Jim Rada Raider nation so again once again get the Bo Jackson thing but little Jim Motto. How come what? What's the story there? Why such a big Fan of Jim Motto No. It was a great player but University of Details University of Miami. All that's the original K. That's the first one. The first one I lean will let you go off for me. The greatest hurricane of all time Brown. I mean you just hit a story. Then when he beat the halls with one showed on Sunday afternoon. I mean Reggie White. Oh God bless his soul to Reggie White told me how great Ron Brown was. So that's why I hold them in the rivers that oil and then people always say play like one time I met his mother and she actually say he looks like my baby and that just took me on another level so Toronto from the greatest. Alpa settled this debate for me sat because on an airplane and tricks. You know how it goes man. Everyone wants to talk about you. Play D. Tackle Play D. I don't have your accolades. I don't have your career so when I say people like whatever ask somebody great amassed a great reggie white rest in peace or Bruce Smith who was the better Diene Reggie. White was the better defensive lab because he can play off position of best. The Dow was with two hundred on it. I mean I know Reggie way more SAC. Then Games at one point. But no Bruce Bruce the bad bad man as a bad man. I would love to disagree. I also you know muscles you play in the trenches. Would you rather face the left or the right time? I know that round fat. That's why risen to hulk. He's got him up to seal it. Rolls. I'll be but those who left tackle either but I think the right tackle over the left tackle any day of the week twice since really appreciate it stated in Florida. I'm coming to go fish as soon as they stop these little in the lockdown of coming to San Diego on coming to La with fish invaded got looked down a hug. All that stuff around the corner. I Cam Newton got a crazy question about camus within his physique Greek body hurting his football career speak for yourself from the crib presented by Hyundai. Jason Whitlock Marcellus Wiley time now to go out and visit another crib. Bucky Brooks somewhere in Los Angeles area. Bucky won't speak for yourself from the crib looking good. I I got a crazy topic that I'm sure Marcel. GonNa hate on but I I love it and I wanted you to come on and argue with with me as well Cam. Newton would not all these social media videos shirtless working out the whole nine yards edit just got me to thinking and realizing cam is built like a Greek God? He's looks like a tight end outside linebacker. One of the best bill guys in all the professional sports and it's actually the first z like a linebacker like a tidy and that is actually limiting cam as a quarterback for a couple of reasons one. I don't think we've ever seen a quarterback built like this but to if any quarterback does the widest. Their mentality won't be about all the extra. Intangible things a quarterback can do when you have that body. You want to run the football. You WANNA be highly aggressive. Your mentality is that of a linebacker or someone else rather than a quarterback if CAM head of physique more like Tom Brady Cam. Newton would be a better quarterback ourselves get us role here am I. Crazy for thinking. Camps Physique is opening back as a quarterback. I love working with you. Boy Never Shocking. Some of the things that come out of your mouth look. I will say. There's you clean that up as best as you could. You stated well but it's still a mess in which you said so basically. I just surmised that we live in a world where an athlete can look athletic like. Oh my God Lebron six eight to sixty two much like tone it down a little bit. Why you have to look like that. And I don't like this correlation of his physique to the lack of intangibles he may possess because he has that Zeke. They don't rob each other. I know there's a curse of the gifted but CAM is an MVP. He's not cursed because of his body. He's blessed because of his body. What I think really happened to care. What really screw them? Up was the fact that he would out their bought into the team concept and played hurt as simple as that playing hurt is what now has cam Newton in a position. Where he's jobless I did. The same thing played hurt. You can either go out there and play her and trying show valor and did all this respect for doing it for the team. It's something bigger than yourself or you can go play her. And then your numbers will suffer. Your performance will suffer and then you will suffer because you will lose opportunities and usually in that equation to ladder comes. True Cam. Newton in his last eight Games was injured. Wall of them. You're talking about a guy to show two surgeries and they'd had a list frank injury and this guy tried to play to all of that. You're race those two years your race him trying to show that courage to those moments and this have Cam Newton redshirt and then all of a sudden magically appear healthy. You know what happens completely different perception complexion a Cam Newton? He many good players. Great players have done when out on his sword because he tried to play hurt. It costs them. You have more cells. I agree with you on that and I think you make a really good point about a cam. Newton playing hurt you know Cav- biggest problem was. He wasn't selfish enough if he was selfish and didn't give of himself for the team. We wouldn't be talking about him like this but to Jason's point about his physique. And how INSHAPE CAM? I actually think that as a positive because when you think about Cam Newton's game you don't think about Cam Newton the passer you about Cam Newton as the rugged Four some major that dominated the position as a running quarterback. I think for Cam can't only has one way to play. And I think to me by looking at him is fully gearing up to be fully armored up to play like Cam. Newton has always played and that version of Cam. Newton was an unstoppable force. And if he gets to the right place and I'll tell you the right place a little later but if he gets to the right place in a Bill. Belichick half is to be goats. I think all of us will be eating words about what is and what he could be in the National Football League Cam. Newton was not a fit for Bill. Belichick and listen. This sounds like I'm being hypercritical of camp his vizier. It's it's awesome. It's something to be admired and every athlete wishes. They look that way but I don't think it's a coincidence that Tom Brady. Patrick mahomes Aaron Rodgers. All of these guys there's so many intangibles and fundamentals to football that when you are blessed with that body and the mentality that goes along with that body you can't have that body unless you're thinking about it all the time. How maintenance it how to keep it at that level whereas other quarterbacks that aren't don't have those gifts Russell Wilson. He's short. Tom Brady they focus in on a bunch of other fundamentals and footwork and things like that and Techni they cam. I'm decided just hasn't had to focus in on the ball comes out late for Cam Cam. Footwork oftentimes you keep hearing about A. Oh we're going to change is throwing motion for X. Y. Z. We're going to change the footwork for X Y and Z those. It's hard for those things to be your focus when you have Cam Newton's body when you got the body of Rob Gronkowski I'm and again. That's why compare him a bit to Gronkowski because when you have that body you you have the personality that goes along with that body and it's more than Brady Russell Wilson like or why. Why are Patrick? Mahomes are even Lamar Jackson. Who's relatively thin for the style quarterback that he plays I just I think cams for Z. Has caused them not to be as focused on the fundamentals as other quarterbacks at is kind of held him back. Well let's get to the fundamental of the sport before we even get to the fundamental position. It is a talent base criteria. Is the talent base no matter how it looks? There's this calculation of mental physical intangibles tangible. There's that calculus going on now. Cam Newton is in the NFL. Everyone in the NFL is a dog. Everyone but Cam Newton is a wolf and if you look at them. They may live similar. Who Bore Trust me? They ain't that say look at this when you're talking about the population of people who have ever walked planet let alone played in NFL. That look like Cam Newton. You'd get this sample size. Then you talk about all the others. A Tom Brady drew brees patch. Whatever you WanNa talk about you this sample size and you know what you can do with that sample size you can leverage in say you know what this is where intangibles lock this? Is what a good quarterback. Sar because there's this more general population where they're looking now that many wolves on that side so cam. Newton is fighting really against himself and the fact that there are very few others. Who can even compare to him? It turns a measurable so really unfair comparison to Cam Newton. Because he has worked on his game. You do not become. Mvp of the NFL. If you don't have your fundamentals you don't have intangibles. It's impossible to do. Look I think. Cam Newton is is kinda struck with the same curse debt. Lebron James was struck with and terms up. Sometimes when you're so gifted and you're so physically dominant that you've been able to skip steps along the way effort Cam. Wherever Cam has been. He's always been the best player on the field and sometime that allows you to move forward in advance steps without mastering the fundamentals. What typically happens as you get older and your skills begin to decline athleticism you then need to lean on your fundamentals. The key for Cam Newton going forward is Cheney put enough time in to develop and refine the fundamentals so his athleticism begins to wane is mine is experienced is wisdom enables them to play at a high level but make no mistake a lot of times when we are raising. Tom Brady for being able to be a guy that can play into his forties is the TB twelve. Method is how he's taking care of his body unfortunately Brady doesn't have the gene pool to pour from that enables him to look physically like an because if he could. I'm sure he would. He's just not gifted like that and because of that he leaves on other attributes that enable GonNa win and play at a high up. If Tom Brady Light Cam Newton he played tidy and or outside linebacker. He being the hall of fame. If can't play tidying or linebacker. Something like that Cam. Newton would be in the hall of fame. We gotta go. He's not a good fit for a for New England instagram of him in mountain. That's what I want to see cam in the film room. We gotta go reviewed is GonNa join us. What I'm talking about. Lebron James as a leader Jared Dudley Calling Lebron the best leader and all the basketball perhaps in all sports three for yourself presented by Sunday more after this. Speak for yourself from the CRIB. Jason Whitlock Marcellus Wiley time to go out to the bay area and RIB euchre joining us from his credibility. A Bay area. Let's talk some Brian. James Jared Dudley. A key member of the Lakers bench and part of their leadership core a veteran said in an interview. Recently that Lebron James is the best leader he's seen in basketball and that that's what separates them from. Janas took school bowl in the MVP race. Is that Lebron's leadership just on the court off the court being teen guy makes him be clear. Mvp of the League even though Janas has better stats. Are The question. Here is is jared Dudley exaggerating the bronze leadership skills Marcellus role in anybody. Who KNOWS JERRY? Kelly knows this is what he does man. I love me some Jared Dudley. That's the Homey but he always is selling them syrup sandwiches man just putting sat everywhere this too much on everything column. Uncle Jemima out here. Just do it too much if you listen to what he was saying. He literally said this as I quote. Yeah by Statistics. Jaanus is the MVP but the BRA come on. He's a guy's guy he tells guys where to go to court. Hey we have team dinners. Lebron what the hell does that have to do with him being the MVP if I can't win the MVP having a better team and better numbers than he did when he won MVP last year there. What is this is turning into a damn twitter poll which is likeability? And Hey Lebron's popular right so this insert them in there. Don't forget he's older. He's thirty five. I love me some jared belly but chew with the Syrup Sandwiches Man is vp to keep. It's not an exaggeration that Jared Dudley is the greatest hype man you could ever hope to have desparation. Lebron James is the best leader in basketball. I understand what he's doing he's trying to give Lebron Edge To Win MVP. Let's let's look at some other leaders in the NBA. Not Not at Jaanus but Steph Curry Lebron James and this is what I hate. I don't WanNa bag on Lebron James leadership but if you're gonNa tell me he's the best leader in basketball and you're gonNA forget Steph curry then I have to and the reality is what Steph curry do. When he broke his hand this year he busted his ass to get back and play on a last place team. When he wasn't practicing he was on the bench at every game. Charon these guys on probably is not going to see a next year's team. What did Lebron do when he was injured? It was walking into the arena drinking wine and the second thing you got nothing to play for. Shut it down for the rest of the season. I rest my case if we're going to talk about leadership on and off the court what Steph does on and off the court without trying to draw attention to himself. It's it's it's not close and I hate saying that because Lebron does so many good things on and off the court but come on. We're GONNA compare leaders. Curry is a runaway. In this Category Rick. You make a hell of a point. I'm going to defend Jared Dudley. Jared Dudley can only evaluate what he's saying he was here. Vizier and Lebron. James has been tremendous as a leader this year. He wasn't there. He wasn't on the Lakers last year. When Lebron was showing up drinking wine and Lebron did everything to undermine the head coach. Luke Walton and Lebron was a disaster jared Dudley based off. What he's saying this year to me has every right to make this autumn. We have every right to disagree. We can judge Lebron's entire body of work and there are years where Lebron is the best leader and there are years. I think where he's a horrible leader and perhaps one of the worst. Marcellus out disagree with you. I think these intangibles Jared Dudley points out are worthy intangibles that slide the MVP trophy to Lebron James. This year this season Labron has been incredible on the court and even better as a team mate and a leader and I think that Gibson some added value in his. Mvp CAMPAIGN OVER. Janas will let you get away with that. Nah Man we partners in doing this. If I came out here stumbled through things didn't do things perfectly whatever but I made it up because we had a team bitter house made it up because you know what guys about everybody. Better gifts like leadership. Douse not intangibles. Guys like a good do there are great dues on every team and they're not MVP. Ken is because hey you know what he's a guy's guy like I that's like when people up to me and I hear it all the time when they talk to a celebrity or an athlete five minutes into the conversation they say oh my God. You're so down to Earth. What the hell are you thinking like? He's a guy's guy you walked in there with this reverence of Lebron James. He's company clouds. Lebron James ties his shoes up like everybody else so to give him credit for just being a guy a teammate. To me she come into the conversation of the we gotta go marshals. The man is averaging twenty five points a game lead in the League in assists. He's adding two eight nine rebounds. Gave a bunch of triple doubles. His team is leaving. The West got better numbers on his own team. Angels' Well No better numbers but he ain't the better player and Lebron has been. Listen Look I love to criticize the Brom. But he's had an incredible season he. He's been an incredible leader this year. Hollywood dangerous work this season. We gotta go sorry Rick. We couldn't let you guys talk with Jimmy. Our approval rating for drew. Brees speaker yourself presented by other day for yourself from the crib. Jason Wheelock myself as widely time to go out to also Jimmy's crib bring him in time of the day. Big Dummy Today. Go to the person who said that you know what it's like to have a body Cam Newton's no don't know what it's like to have a body like him I would you stop it i. Let's let's move onto drew brees. You have a take on drew brees. He didn't make the all decade team. I BLAME THE NFC. Championship lost a couple of years ago. Not only did you play the NFC championship loss. You blame that particular. Play for the reason that he's not gonNa make eighteen okay but look. Here's algae David Real man. That wasn't the play that costing you know it. Okay 'cause he had the ball back after the miscall and he still couldn't get it in the end zone he's all. He came up like dogs. Let's say just a little bit short and has been the knock on drew brees his whole career. He just been a little bit short view. I hope out where all the stories. We're both okay now. Okay better than anybody on this. What it's like to come up short when it matters most hurt is that you gave up under the bright light so vague terms ride of. We've heard it out. I gotta go to approval rating for drew. Breezy stays in a ghost at. This is the last time we saw we did this. Invite December is performance in the playoffs. Wasn't that good still. Go eighty-seven filler go. Twenty-six FOR CHARACTER. He gave five million dollars and he said his wife's name when he gave it nobody else.

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Best of Straight Outta Vegas with RJ Bell: 05/18/2020

Straight Outta Vegas with RJ Bell

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Best of Straight Outta Vegas with RJ Bell: 05/18/2020

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I got a little tired of the live tweeting by people in sports media, but you realize you're not obligated to watch or read that well I know, but it took me about three episodes before I realized I just got a log off twitter the last two hours of my show, and what was your sense of the general tenor of the Sports Media Tweets? It was just a race to see who could comment on what everybody was watching I and make sure they get the. Hashtag in, so wasn't so much. Pro Am Jay or pro libra. Just WanNa. Get their thoughts out there. I was surprised how many people didn't know the story already? And that's what it felt like to me. How many people were surprised by many of the details I've I've talked about this. I think Jordan's the greatest of all time, so none of the details were that surprising to me. Let me. Clear up the greatest of all time. I will save hopefully a lot of time though we know we won't. But I want you to think about this and. I think as you listened to other arguments. You'RE GONNA. Come back to this and it's going to make a ton of sense in here it is. Define what it is, you mean by the greatest because it might seem obvious. But let's think of three different things it could be. One is at his height. It was the best player we've ever seen. So, you could make the case a guy. gale sayers is the perfect example old school football. I never saw him play was well before my time, but apparently he played like four and a half years. Hurt his knee in a way that could be operated on in a healthy way or active way for rehabilitation. Never, I don't think he ever played again more or less play effectively. You know obviously Bo. Jackson and a Bo Jackson which strike you in football. The AD is high, maybe as good as anyone we've ever seen. Number two. Would Be Emmitt Smith. emmitt Smith was never amazing. There was never thought I think the case can be made at Emma Smith was never the best running back in the NFL on any given year. Think Barry Sanders would've beat him out. A lot of year was one year he was or not, I don't know. But for a guy who sits on top of the NFL rushing list. Emmett Smith had the least amount of years. You can imagine being the clearly best player in the NFL. It was about. Accumulating stats longevity. And if you draft somebody, that's probably the most important right. If you're the steelers and you pick a big ban, it's great to think about how Big Ben might be at his height. But it's also important, if not more important to think, he's going to have fifteen years of top five in the League quarterback play. Would, you rather have that or three years is the best and then. The rest may be out of the League or not good at all who knows? And, then finally it was. It's about. If we're playing earth or for against the aliens Earth. Who Do, you want to be the captain of the team. They they come down and say. We want to play some basketball. Now you're hoping they don't fly or dropped the ball in from above the basket hovering, but if it was like the stakes are as high as they can get, and it was one game to play. WHO's that guy? You might say well. RJ, that sounds a little bit like the first or the you know the greatest moment saying no, because some of those great performers that did amazing things weren't clutch performers. They weren't folk. They were focused in a way. Maybe on an instagram like moment more than winning and we've all seen the basketball players go behind the back when they don't need to go behind the back. And look when it happens, right? White thunder white chocolate. All, the different kind of. A. Let's say, show boat and type plays. That aren't necessary for winning now. Sometimes behind the backs, necessary right and we can all sit and judge it, but we know the guys that are looking for attention, and we know the guys are looking to win I would say John Stockton whatever wherever you rank him, Stockton's going to be very high when it comes the accumulated stats 'cause. He was consistent for a long time. He's to be mighty high. When it comes to wanting to win, my sense was he wanted to win more than anything and I saw a few does. In radio snippets on stock, because obviously, it was getting attention these last couple of episodes that really said this guy might be. The Best Po Magic was not a point guard. Really he was, but he was so unlike any point guard ever it was like well. He was, but he's a different breed. This Stockton Guy was the classic Point Guard Isiah would have been on that list probably mark. But, I never got a sense that stockton was worried about showboating. Right so to me. Those are the categories highest high. Wanting attention. Or let's say highest as high accumulated stats and winning. Obviously. Mike was not the best of the accumulated stats. Be Sure Catch live editions of straight. Outta Vegas weekdays at six PM Eastern. Three PM Pacific on Fox sports radio in the iheartradio APP an IT career. Means owning the opportunity to play a crucial role in transforming how agencies operate, join DDAT for challenging and impactful work that advances your career apply now at Ddat Dot com slash careers gi, teeth opportunity employer. And the more I about this and Jonas I want to hear your thoughts. I'm RJ BOTH STRAIGHT OUT OF VEGAS WITH JOE Stocks Fazekas. To. Me Lebron reminds me more of Kareem. The more I think about IT AKA lew alcindor Steve Familiar I am. Skyhook, the law goes. Air Point. In when he was with Milwaukee and I was three years old or whatever so i. don't remember it, but they talk about his dominant period, and a lot of people remember more the Eighties Kareem, and even come seventy nine eighty one magic's rookie year. They won the first title there was a sense of. The cream was secondary the because if you look at the Lakers performance. The year before magic the year before that they were I think they missed the playoffs the other about five hundred. So cream by himself wasn't doing. Magic shows up. They win a title. Okay, so doesn't mean cream wasn't good. In the eighties meant he was moving through the thirties and into his forties at the end. But the fact that he played those years. They made it, so his stats were the number one scorer of all time, but there was never a sense, and there's a famous story that magic one. They won the first game average, so it was magic's rookie year I game. And there was a last second shot magic hit it. He's running. He's jumping up in the stands. He's backflips, maybe not, but you know what I'm saying. And he jumps up in arms and cream says we got eighty two. You better relax so in a way Korean, being able to last thirty some years, or seems like thirty, a lot of years into his thirties and beyond. Makes those counting stats so amazing. But at what point was he? Oh, my Gosh! I want him to be the he might have been a great. Hey, if you're going to play the aliens, ten different times and twenty years, you want cream on the first draft, but on any given year cream didn't have many of those years that he was the best Plyer, but he had a lot of years. He was the five best seven best whatever. Lebron seems to me. To lost a lot of games in meaning finals where? The idea that Mj you might say well is a better Joe Montana's. It better not go the super bowl or to lose. The Super Bowl would rather lose earlier. How can I be better? There is a mystique. If someone doesn't ever lose when the chips are really down, there is, but you forget about Jordan in this reinforced to me. Every year after he busted through, so give him credit. It was Larry Bird it was those pistons, but when he busted through. Every year that he started with the team. They won the title? I'd sit. There was three years start started. One started one started one baseball missed. A season came back with seventeen games, or whatever didn't win. Now have been coffee one. Yeah, but is shows you in a way. If he would've won, there would have been an indictment of the league. There was a young shock and a young Pani atop point that we're able to beat them, and if you watch the end of this and you saw against Utah especially those two years. How good the jazz were on the road or at home. The idea of beaten Malone and Stockton was a win. It was not easy to beat them, and it was literally one play here or one play there. But one guy always made those plays. And no one else in the history of the League has ever been that much of a winner. Once he broke through. And Lebron broke through at a certain point, and since then he's lost more files in his one. There's a difference there, and I gotta be honest. I'm so happy wasn't live wagering back in the late nineties on these aims. How many times that we see? Oh, the Bulls are down eleven. Jordan looks exhausted already. Pippen's not one hundred percent I'm like Oh, they're going to get blown out. And then they go back to win outright so Jonas. That idea of cream and Lebron which I haven't really heard before, and that accumulates where I think they're inversely related the ability to get so up for every big game that you don't lose. Means you can't play twenty years like that that you're going to be like a shooting comment in a way and you're going to be there and then take two year or year, and a half of them be there again, then take three years off and try to come back. And finally he was old enough that he was getting be, so he played a one year. That was okay second year going to do this right played eighty two SC over twenty points a game, and then he was done, and that seems like a different. Different breed player, yeah, no, it's a different breed, and also your comparison with Emmett. Smith I would. I would put to you this way. Who's had a better career as an NFL player. Walter. Payton or frank, Gore, I mean it's Walter Payton. It's not close and Frank Gore might pass him on the all time rushing list, so that's where we have got to do our diligence to not just look at stats at the end of the day and really put into context. Somebody's impact on the game and nobody comes close to Jordan. If the term impact then it starts getting into well. What was the business ramifications and you know we're David? Stern was obviously very cognizant. The Jordan was such a key part of the growth of the NBA and the lasting set on the whole dock was there was eighty some countries we were in when he started in two hundred and fifty when we were done, or whatever the numbers were I think those are generally right, and that's another factor, but I would say this Frank Gore might have had the better career, but Walter Payton was the better player hundred break and I. Think you could say reasonably. And this is the big wind up. You could reasonably say that Lebron had the better career than Michael. 'cause you could say okay. Three titles versus six, and but now how much is the regular season? Successes matter? How much does that? Thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen year and counting, he'll probably have twenty twenty two years. That can't be nothing it can't be. The season doesn't mean anything if you don't win the title. But I think that a title is probably worth three or four seasons right and to me. It's a debate. If you want to say, who had the better career? But, if you wanted to debate, who the better player is, you're insane. The one I would just say Madison Bumgarner Clayton Kershaw. I mean just think about those two careers at some people would argue Madison Bumgarner had a bad the better career, but isn't close to the pitch. Kershaw is of the world series. And it's funny because with Kershaw those assented. He's the better pitcher, but there's a lack of clutch. I don't think anyone thinks I mean everyone that has a brain. Things Jordan was more clutch and Lebron. But does any I'm serious. You couldn't think otherwise. Be Sure to catch live editions of straight out of Vegas weekdays at six PM Eastern Three PM. Pacific iheartradio and state farm know that the graduation stage is the first of many and wall. GRADS may not be walking across one this year. They can get sendoff off. 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Guys are always saying. Oh, well, you know. There is no clutch. Blah Blah hot hand theory. Watching this reinforced to me how much Michael did off the court to help them win? Yeah, and your point on how bright he burned! You can watch the final. The last season of both championship runs. He looked completely outta gas like he. He had the pedal to the metal for so long that physically and emotionally he was spent I watched last night and I said. I mean I. Don't know if they would have had another year in. If you wanted to come back, I have no idea what he would've looked like. Because he looked like he was completely at a gas in the in the final season of of ninety eight, and that was the second time he ran out of gas. which is just you know goes to your point when you burn that hot for so long sooner or later your GonNa. Burn out and he did twice and his. Athletic trainer who had made He was the guy that was talking about the pizza right and and we gotta talk about that, but he said it was fascinating. I actually listened. First Time ever listened to book on tape. I've never done that before, but I figured this is what I can listen in the background. And it was from his trainer, and he was talking about Mike Orton, and this fellow also trained Koby Ange Wayne Wade so I mean he's been with you know, and he talks about Michael like it's a different breed like there's Michael, and there's everyone else, and that's probably true, or that's true. My opinion, but he said that when you are so focused on every decimal point. As in if I choose this way, if I put on one pound, if I lose one pound if I sleep this much of whatever it was, he was thinking about because it wasn't just being a good basketball player. Hit him changing his body where he was a certain body type. Early on later, he put on a bunch of muscle to deal with Detroit. Then he went and played. Baseball needed a different kind of body for that then he came back to play basketball and the footage with him, and when he was recording his movie space jam and his emphasis on this next season. We better be ready. It's a he obviously was very deliberate. Michael about the way. He approached his house his body. And he goes when all you're doing is obsessing over that when you get to be the best. You don't have anyone to compare yourself to all those years. When you were playing against Detroit and they were winning, you could say I'm GonNa. Keep doing this this and this 'cause. I gotta get over the Hump. But once you get over the hump. Where do you go? You. Try to repeat okay. You try to three-piece, okay? Now is it is four pete important? Yeah, but is that more important than five or six? P We go to Bill Russell nine out of eleven, or whatever and he says that's the time a guy like this or so few of them will have to quit almost for their own sanity because they got no reference. Point there in that. It's like once you become. That's funny as much as any other player. You could make the case has had their time in the sun, so durant and the the Golden State team. They were as good as any team. You could say I think it's fair to say, but there's no one player that you ever thought was even better than Lebron. I. Don't know so now. You Got Lebron. Who's losing more finals any wins? You got everyone else. They can't get better than Lebron. So no one. Forget chasing the ghost of Michael Jordan. So to me idea that you get on top when you have. Larry Bird saying I've never seen. Anyone played I like the guy was in a second year third year. It was the second year after his injury put up sixty three. and Larry Bird saying that wasn't my joined that was God playing basketball and imagine a second imagine Siahaan. Next season being discussed like that, that's what it was. I can't even fathom that it'd be a lot of people saying well, we'll see if you can do it for seven. Yeah, a lot of naysayers in probably rightfully so. And Michael didn't even play a second year till the end to literally, when bird said that he had one full season, and like fifteen games and the year. And then the playoffs they were below five hundred team that year. Because he didn't play and you got birthday and I've never seen anyone like that. He was just in a different UNIVER, and by Nineteen ninety-three his first retirement, many people in the media said the greatest NBA player in the history of the NBA has just retired. That's only halfway through his championships and you could make, and you could make the case. And I think rightfully so you can make the case that he would have met the criteria of maybe having the highest height. Yeah at that point, but that's the balance if you're if you're going to be in between the accumulation of stats. Cream let's say and highest height. There was that middle ground which is, this is the biggest winner. He might not have played as many years. But what we know is this if you want to talk about the way that documentaries added is the idea that every time he started with a team after learning how to win after breaking through. And what we're doing by saying that we eliminating the one year, he came back with fifteen games, and it's hard to say if he can come back with fifteen games and win it when they actually had a bad supporting cast at year to Rodney wasn't there, but horace grant was gone. It was one year. They didn't have a good four. They had a losing record when he came back. You had to lose Iraq, when he came back and it was a situation where. It, was a shock that they lost I. Remember when Nick Anderson stripped him, and it was that you couldn't believe it. And it never happened again. So what part if you could tell one story of your grandkids, Jonas? Would that story be from the last Dance Oh God? I, would I would just give an overall to make people understand how great he was. I would just say outside of Tom. Brady he's the only athlete that I can think of maybe George Foreman. You could put in there. That had to hall of fame careers. That's interesting. That is fascinating Brady. It's funny I think he's undisputably the goat and football and I don't even put him in the universe Jordan and some of it might be because no one player in the NFL who's only playing half the time we one out of eleven. and. He's one out of twenty two. If you both sides of the ball, and when you're one out of five, it's as you just one great player faxed things so much i. mean think about all the great players the NFL like magnetron. Berry Santa, they all seem to be Detroit, I. Don't know, but they like mega trump could have been the best receiver. Jerry Rice, but you know it's very fair to say megatrend third-best receiver after Moss and Rice I think that's the reason why these height didn't even sniff the playoffs or sniff winning anything. I mean think about o j. how many Subaru I mean listen Oj was a great running back. Lot of people thought Jim Brandon Oj for a long time Walter Payton water pain didn't make a super bowl. You was like in his mid thirties. NFL It's just it's a team game. Yeah doesn't mean a player is in gray doesn't mean he was instrumental to the winning. But you put Tom Brady on a crappy team. It doesn't matter you put. 'EM! Jane is prime on a crappy team. They probably almost win it. They do I. Mean I think we saw crabby teen year. He came back with seventeen games. I think that he was an underdog to win it, but he could have. Fox Sports radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. 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Introducing The Lead

Going Deep with Chad and JT

06:44 min | 9 months ago

Introducing The Lead

"What's up stoker's and more specifically sports fans. I have a daily sports podcastone and tell you about from wondering and the athletic. It's called the lead L. E. A. D.. Every weekday morning. The lead brings you a deep dive into the biggest sports stories of the day from the athletics. All Star team of local and national sports reporters. These guys are in the straight media. Stories like Where did the forty niners new star running back. Rehim most hurt come from. I don't know but I'm GONNA listen to the lead to find out. Or what can Zion Williams do for the Pelicans. I'll fucking no bag and find out on the lead. So if you're looking for the full story behind last night's scores and today's hot takes make sure you subscribe to the lead from one hundred and the athletic on Apple podcasts or spotify by an gave you dudes and ladies it. Take a taste of what we're talking about. We're going to play a clip from the show for you right now and joy job wound. It's Super Bowl Week. Kavita Yeah Man I I mean Pat Mahomes and the chiefs just went off during these play offs and that niners defense is just stout right and the one one guy everyone will be watching closely is the dude who towards the souls of packers fans and basically Jimmy Garoppolo the day off. Sir I jerry. And more touch his fourth touchdown up the Paul Game. It ran for two hundred twenty yards and four touchdowns against Green Bay. This is the guy who was cut by six different. NFL teams and who before the season was mostly seen special teams player. And so today. We're GONNA speak with the athletics Tim Kawakami who has been covering the forty niners for years. About how much of a surprise most search performance really was if he was a one game wonder and how surfing has influenced the way he runs. The wave hits and then he's gone on. It's a very interesting kind of combination of a surfer running back from wondering and the athletic. I'm under scelzo Davidson. This is the lead. It felt like something. Great was there is something about the emotion and don't conduct obscene assiduously. Clear the athlete. It stays with you so tim. Ramos performance against the packers was truly historic. What was his reaction after the game was like a reunion. You know that was one of the greatest games or anybody ever had in the NFC championship. Not I'm not actually true for you. Even say that right now is like I.. I'm still shocked and I can't believe that. That's the kind of guy he is kind of guy lobbies but especially where he had been bouncing around Lee from team to team really wasn't thought of as running back until the forty niners. Just start plugging them in there and he just never had a bad run. He's I just never went for less than five yards so you might as well. Just keep giving it to the hand off into the arms of Mostaert. He's gone touchdown San Dan Francisco. Just he still acts like a journeyman. He acts like a guy who was a special teams player. Who isn't going to be a featured back while he's putting up some of 'em you know mega numbers in the playoffs. They all treat themselves and they look at the world like they're a bunch of men. It's very very refreshing. And I think it is a large part of how they've Kinda coalesce together they all. Nobody's bigger than anybody else in the locker room. Even the guy who goes for two hundred whatever yards in the NFC championship game. He's a surfer surfer. write us a surfer. First of all you got no wetsuit on your just straight trunks you riding long boards short board. You've been mavericks yet. Like like walk us through the Surf and when you started in how you got into that surfer when I was about thirteen or fourteen and You know just been a big hit for me going out there on the waves and riding the waves like you see in this video. Oh Man Just enjoying the atmosphere in the water and I WanNa go to Mavericks Surfing contract from Billabong. He's no Florida wave of out here in California. We're not sure what that is but I guess they get leaves out there. An Easter lady runs like a surfer moster back. Jack gets it Samuel out in Florence. Touched it kind of feels the crest kind of like glides towards the where the whole isn't he catches the next wave and they're gone guys don't expect them to get past them and they get asked him. It's not like a classic running back. He's not like Walter Payton Juki Juki joking. Cooking is kind of kind of fill in the moment feeling where it is the wave hits and then he's gone. It's a very interesting kinda combination of a surfer running back and Do you think he's been enjoying his time in the spotlight here. I think he has. He understands what it's like not to be any part of this to be such an afterthought your cut by five teams you understand. You know a world where he's not a star he's lived in that world so he's GonNa enjoy it a little bit it again. I don't think he's seeking out crazy fame but these guys are all kind of enjoying it right now. They're all kind of this is pretty good. This is pretty good right now. And so tim. Most performance seemed to come out of nowhere. But did you foresee this. You know I don't think he ever see a guy going for or do hundred. Plus and then champion. Melissa's top top picky certainly wasn't he's been impressive every time he's carried the ball. He's been impressive. He's been a star special teamer so you knew he had some skills but you saw something building there and you sometimes running backs. Just come out no or this is the Shanahan's are famous for that. Pulling some some guy. The fifth round here runs for one thousand yards most or is in that category. They tapped into something with him call. Shanahan recognized it though. He's been good for most of the season. Well Tim thanks for joining us. And it'll be interesting to see if most in the forty niners can pull it off on Sunday all right. I'll see you Tokyo. WHOA OH Mama. That was a short clip of the lead. podcast from wondering and the athletic you can find the full episodes and new episodes every week. Day on Apple spotify or wherever. You're listening later.

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Staying Content

PTI

23:07 min | 3 months ago

Staying Content

"Today answers matter more than ever before. That's why IBM is helping. Businesses manage customer questions with Watson Assistant It's conversational AI designed to work for any industry. Let's put smart to work visit. IBM Dot Com Slash Watson Assistant. Pardon the interruption, but Mike Robot Tony a firefighter Brooklyn world record by doing five, thousand, two, hundred ninety seven burpee. He's in twelve hours. I'm Tony. Kornheiser wow that top one best by five, thousand, two, hundred, Ninety, seven, when I got a follow up quest. What. The hell's. So a burpee. Is You standing off? Maybe there's a step in front of you or a Bo Super Bowl in front of you and your dropdown. You kick your legs out and do a push up. Give me ten when I was. Ten? Twenty five years old. They heard the really hard in their stupid for anybody over the thirty. That's my position, crazy, old man and his own addict day ninety five in today's episode will I discussed Dak Prescott. Happiness Tigers returned to the golf course and another top high school of going to the G. League and I'm wearing my hat because I still have this cut on. My head opens better by Monday, but we begin today with news that Zion. Williamson has left the NBA bubble. Bubble in Orlando to attend an urgent family medical matter. The New Orleans Pelicans Zion intends to rejoin the team at an unspecified later date. We'll bond your thoughts on Zion leaving and what this could mean in the bigger picture, well Tony Me. The first thing is I hope this urgent family. Medical matter turns in becomes not urgent, and whoever this is, and whatever it is is improved better. So, that's the first thought and my second thought is. This is what people as they get older as they move from Zion's twenty today in their twenties, and thirties and forties is what we do it all the time. This is what deal with and players and coaches, and this is what your life becomes as you get older sadly, but necessarily the difference of course is this pandemic? The difference you you you normally you leave, and these guys have enough wherewithal to fry fly privately. If they want and most times they do and they they come back. Back and they juggle their tension between what is going on with their family member and ball, and they still have to do that, but now it's only you have protocol that you have to answer to, and you could be gone anywhere from say four days to fourteen days depending on things like if you're tested every day while you're gone, so we. We don't know and let's face it. There's twenty two teams in the bubble and not sixteen largely because Zion is one of those six extra teams in the NBA wanted to see him in the postseason. No question about that there's there's no reason on earth for the Washington. Wizards and the Sacramento Kings and whole bunch of these teams to be in this round, Robin and playoff to get into the playoffs in his created right because Zion, Williamson, second only in my opinion to Bron James as a television draw, and they WANNA. See Him in the playoffs. I Echo your statements that we hope that this isn't something traumatic for the family that should go without saying but testing the. The protocol by understanding correctly is you need to test on your own every day? In order that? When you come back, you can spend only four days out instead of fourteen. That's asking a lot of anyone when they've left the bubble to be able to do that to me. The larger question is, do you make exceptions know and to me for people like Zion and Lebron James who try to make an exception, but where where there is contagion, you can't do of course. By the Way Zion has team. Okay, and his team can help in that regard. They may have to send somebody WHO's in charge of testing. They want him air. No, there's no exception is the is the is the virus make an exception? Is the virus go? Lebron is gone, then look a little bit too big and strong for. Let me let me go over here. No, they're not doing that, so there's no exceptions, but you hope one that that this urgent matter becomes less urgent, and to that Zairean could get back quickly. Administer this I mean. The the Pelicans come on David. Griffin is not some dope going to do what they can as a franchise who support him and make sure he has what he needs to transition back to the bubble. Time to go get up and I take on you and talk some Dak Prescott. The. Cowboys quarterback did not get the big long term deal. He wanted by yesterday's deadline, but toll USA Today. Quote I'm a cowboy and I couldn't be happier. Close quote Tony when you hear this. Do you believe that? I do right now today I do believe that and I believe it's a very smart thing to say because the only team that can give you more. Money is the team you play for right now. The Dallas cowboys now may turn out that he doesn't feel that way down the role, but you'll recall the kirk cousins who played this same role a few years ago to the tune of. Of Eighty four million dollars guaranteed after two years of being franchised where made about forty five million other dollars, never bad mouth, his team in Washington, he never bad mouth them, and so I understand this I. do understand this with with Dak Prescott yes I do I. Do you know by and large I've not cared about this story and I've been very dismissive of it. We'll get his money. Alone, I don't care. But together Tony, dynamic here that I do care about and I, look at this past off season, and now we're getting closer would is we? Think is gonNA could be camp and I look at. Look at Cam Newton and I look at the kid down in Tampa. Who through all the interceptions, but also Jameis Winston to for about. Housing yards and I look at them twenty I. Look at Look at some high profile black quarterbacks. We are thankfully past the point. Where won't we're wondering if team, we'll have a black quarterback because I guess I don't know if all thirty two teams have had one, but for the most part with Butler beyond that, but then I look at these off seasons, and I look at some of the quarterbacks who are playing under contract for more money than these guys and I'm like what what what does what gives here collectively? What? What is it that the League? What is it that the national football league culture and its owners think of rewarding black people who play quarterback? quarterback as opposed to much much much much lesser white people who play quarterback in some cases. What is the dynamic? What are we? What are we dealing with here? The DAK Prescott to be having to do this and you'd like to put this question to Jerry Jones. Except Jerry Jones has been hiding under a desk since I don't know May, he has not been available. He's only available to run his mouth in his locker room when it suits Jerry Jones, but we need to examine the situation with these quarterbacks again accomplished Cam Newton MVP in this league. Dame's Winston still has some his graph. Go is going up to some degree and look at this and I'm. I'm like what the Hell is going on here? That's the only thing I care about this. The only dynamic care about well I'm not I'm going to answer that I own answer that by saying that there are some black quarterbacks who have won super bowls like Russell Wilson and Patrick. Mahomes who have been rewarded tremendously once I I. Yeah, they've they've won. Super Bowls Dot Prescott has not yet won a super bowl. You can take a guy like golf. Making one hundred ten million dollars, who got to the Super Bowl and Dak Prescott has not done that yet I think time is on Prescott side because I think he's really good, and I'd say one other thing. Thing about why he might be happy. Because the new coach on that team Mike McCarthy has won a super bowl. He replaced Brett farve with Aaron Rodgers and he went, and he won a super bowl and I don't think Jason Garrett ever to Super Bowl. So that might be another reason why Dak Prescott lights the position he's sitting in and now I will move on when we left. Elena Delle Donne yesterday. The WNBA was still denying her a medical exemption for her line disease, still reserving the right not to pay her if she did not report for the WNBA season in Florida, her own team, the mystics they send stepped in. They said they plan to pay. Or Two hundred fifteen thousand dollars salary while she. We have our back, so we'll. Von Did the mystic solve this problem. I don't know about solving problems. The mystics did have done the right thing i. mean the certain thing you certainly don't want. Is Your Best Player your franchise player? You're the MVP of your team and your league to be upset in house, right, you don't want that. You don't need that friction you. You need none of that, so you do what you can do to help this situation and say listen. Elena. We're going to do everything we can do here if you have a problem with the league, you guys are going to have to settle, but you put the ball in someone else's court. You don't let your star player go anywhere near the start of a season not to mention a bubble being upset with you. Is that going to be a solution? Only. Don knows how deeply she's been offended, and who can solve that that? Yeah I. Don't think it's a mystics problem. I think it's a WNBA problem. Here's the MVP of the League and the Best Player on a championship team. Being told that her lime disease doesn't qualify. Take sixty four pills every single day. She believes doctors have told her that. Her immune system is compromised. The what does the NBA Wmba want to go down to Florida and risk dying? Dying I mean we talk about this virus all the time and this is someone who could be adversely affected by it now. The mystics could hold off and they can say well. When you're done rehabbing, we'd like you to play and that put search sort of in the same position and I've said this again and again and again I'll continue to say it might lane of. Seems to me be somebody you would want representing your team representing your league and representing your brand, and it seems like you going out of your way to stop them from doing that. Well. The Milanese mystics to this point have not been missing. Long gone the other way. When the WB said at some point, even the mystics are going to have to say Dell Don and the League. We're out of this. You guys have got to get you. You've got to come to a better place. Let's go to golf. The first round of the memorial is not yet complete, but some big names were in the clubhouse. They include you, boy, Bryson, D Shambo. The Mad scientist who started today by hitting a four hundred twenty three yard drive, but he wound, he finished plus one seventy three. Wow, and these five shots back. That's six or seven shots back Michael Kornheiser by the way that was better, then, the threesome of Justice Thomas Dustin Johnson and Xavier I'm sorry Zander's Schlafly who finished a combined plus sixteen. Meanwhile, Tiger birdied the first hole. He's places February tone what stood out to you? What stood out to me. Is The threesome that I take to beat your threesome? That was heavily laden with major winners, which is kept going Tiger and rory and I picked to Shambo plus one is not a terrible scoreboard. Cal fell back a little bit, but Patrick is sitting at minus two so I'm like in. My bed is what I'm talking about an slow your. Your Roll sparky. We got four days in. His thing is not going to be decided today. If anybody says slow roll, it would be you since you're saying you like your position, so you like -sition with three dudes with the same number majors as you and me nuts zero while my I so I. Think has twenty two majors. What are you talking about dude? Okay can I ask you a question? Wait three. or Is it a major. Not a major, it's not so stop and so much more to say about. Nothing, to say time should. I WanNa, talk about the handshake deal I'll get to it some other time coming up the titans just sewing. Garin can read a new deal is Tennessee's running back more valuable than it's quarterback. Yes, House after. We'll take a closer. Look at the bazaar goal in the MLS last night. You got no major. Not You got nothing you got nothing. It is not a major if it's. Link of how great those guys are anywhere, they tee it up. Not a major. Hello. This is your apartment. I need some favors from you. Your cat keeps rubbing against the kitchen island, and I can't return the favor. Can you give her extra pets for me after that? Could you bundle your renters and car insurance with Geico we could save money and it's easy to do online. One thing. Could you leave the TV on during the day? I need to catch up on my soaps. God go for bundling made easy. Go to GEICO DOT COM today. Indeed knows that for any business. Your next step is the most important one like hiring someone who can make a real impact indeed helps you find high impact hires faster without any long term contracts, and you pay only for what you need. Thanks to their super flexible payment options, so why not take that next step with indeed get started with a free seventy five dollars credit for your first job and get in front of more quality. Candidates go to indeed dot com slash PTI. That's indeed dot com slash PTI, terms, and conditions apply offer valid through September thirtieth. Usually both four questions, but today it only has to which means that you'd stakes riding on every answer wilpon. Let's get the first one from the producer over the loudspeaker tossup. More Valuable Titan Ryan Tannehill or Derrick Henry. Okay quarterbacks are always more valuable regardless of the team. That's why to titans paying. Tannehill sixty, two, million, guaranteed and Derrick Henry. Twenty five million dollars guaranteed I love Derrick. Henry, he's the best running back in the football thirteen and Oh, when he goes for one hundred yards. Know three what. You know in the playoffs. Over one hundred eighty. Two when he's not yeah, but I'm just saying to you that Tannahill. What he was with Marcus Mariota Tennessee didn't do much tannahill getting their change the course of that franchise, so I don't think it's as easy a call as you do. It's very easy because also Santa Hills and number one play action passer in the League play action comes off initiation of a fake to that running back, and the cultures learned better how to use him after Mary And maybe tannehill themselves, said I am not going to be a dope. I understand that this is where my bread is. buttered tannahill like every quarterback gets paid more, but the best player on that team is Derrick Henry. Period no argument, no argument as to who is the best player that wasn't. Exactly the question next last one toss. Who deserves more credit for this goal Vancouver or San Jose? This, and I'm going to be very brief on this San. Jose gives up. The ball makes an error and then San Jose's. Kicks the ball into the net. All been couvert did was test. Drive the ball trip out of new. York laid it down the field. That's right. That's right. The answer is San Jose. WHO has the own goal? Who put it into his own net San Jose? So the word credit can also be Blaine right, so we'd played Mantis game here and that's when you score. There's nothing more embarrassing in the sport of football. Then scoring an own-goal, some people aren't even allowed back into the country in international competition. If they are I, mean just awful enough unfortunate enough to put an own-goal into the net, and not even allowed back. They just sort of give their passport to the guy's going back home and say till till my parents I love. Him I'll never see him again. So that is my answer. So, we agree on that's it only two questions clear from the one the boat? Let's take one last break would still become another top high school player passes on some Blueblood college programs to join the G. League. Flynn rivers explains his strategy when it comes to us in that NBA snitch law. I liked it better when it was the D. League. I did. What? An oily as letter. GEICO gets you access to licensed agents twenty four seven, which means that Geico is always there for you. If only everyone was always there for you, like your mom when you fill out really important paperwork on the first day of a new job name, check birthday. She'll securities thing. Hey, mum, what as my social security number mom mom? Okay let's. Zero zero one seven Gemini Hashtag Done Geico always there for you with savings and twenty four seven access to licensed agents for businesses around the world. Today isn't to restart. It's a rethink that's why they're partnering with IBM to Change. How burn from supply chains to customer service. Let's put smart to work visit IBM. Dot Com slash smart to learn more? A. Happy Time, people have the fifty second birthday. Barry Sanders the Great Detroit. Lions running back was first team. All pro six times named to the pro bowl ten times, the greatest running back of all time has Jim Round of course, but the short lift list after that is Sanders, emmitt Smith and Walter Payton Sanders led the NFL, rushing four times, and is the NFL's fourth leading rusher. All Time Scout saw this coming. Sanders won the Heisman at Oklahoma State Nineteen, eighty-eight when he had the most e one rushing yards in a single season, two, thousand, six hundred. Hundred Twenty eight and the most d one rushing touchdowns in a single season thirty seven, he also had the most three hundred plus yard games in a single season four. Why Tim Brown Sanders left the game early? WHO's thirty? In his final season? Rousey would probably pass them. It is the number one all time rusher because he's only about three thousand yards behind him, the one knock on. Sanders was his performance of playoff games and six playoff games. He scored only one touchdown in one game. have thirteen carries for minus one yard, which seems inexplicable doesn't make. It does Tony but I'm going to go back to him. Leading the League in rushing four times, it puts them in the extraordinary company off Eric, Dickerson Emmett, Smith, OJ Simpson Steve Van Buren. I mean that that's incredible. Right? We'll the guy who lapped the field is Jim Brown who led the League eight times eight four is the runner up. A guy has eight. It's extraordinary berry. That playoff game against the packers. I know that colored my thinking about him too much as NFC central kid that that. Colored the way I felt about and I apologize because I was wrong. Very Sanders was great that playoff game and It was that that went a long way toward making people say hold on for a second and we should. Happy Anniversary Joe Dimaggio on this day seventy nine years ago, the Yankee Clipper went three for four to extend his record hitting streak to fifty six games. That streak is so far out there that no one has ever come within eleven games of it Pete, rose is second with forty four. Dimaggio and Ted Williams played at the same time may well be the best pure hitters in baseball history. This record was set in the summer of nineteen, forty one when Williams hit four zero six became the last man to hit four hundred Dimaggio won the MVP struck out only thirteen times one hundred thirty nine games thirteen. Thirteen, times all season, the Maggio was MVP three times in an all star in each of his thirteen seasons all with the Yankees, his teams won ten American League. Pennants and nine world series playing in New York and so many champions made Dimaggio and idol reputation that was only amplified when he married Marilyn Monroe Dimaggio was the subject of countless profiles in one in Esquire by the Great Gay Talese Maryland Monroe describes entertaining the troops on a USO tour. She talks about thousands of people cheering her. She says the demongeot. It was so wonderful Joe. You've never heard such cheering and Dimaggio says yes. I have. The shocker when I got older and read about it was, they were married for like a minute and a half. It was unbelievably short time in real world contexts. Tony There's a book written by Richard Ben Kramer about Jill, de Maggio a hero's life, and it is extraordinary by the way. If you had a vote that year and I know, the Yankees finished far field of the Red Sox. If you'd had a vote, the summer of forty one. Who would you vote for MVP IDA pushed. Happy trails that a prospect of college basketball for Jonathan commingle committed the top high school basketball, prospect of class of two thousand and twenty one has become the latest high school. Brad to Spurn College. College op for the professional status of the G. League. The seventeen year old recently somehow reclassified himself as a twenty twenty graduate from the Patrick High School in New Jersey, and therefore eligible for pro money, according to the athletic commingle will be paid approximately five hundred thousand dollars for his year in the G. League. Coming goes six eight said his goal is to be the first player selected in the NBA draft and he believes the G. League provides a better pay than playing college ball. Coming had been recruited by Kentucky to Auburn and Texas. Tech whereas older brother Joel Place Committee has a close relationship with Kyrie Irving, who graduated from the same high school. Commingle Calls Irving, quoting mentor, And, quote a great dude on. Tony He's got that turnaround bank shut like Elvin Hayes. That's a throwback move. I liked that. One Omission Jacob degrom says his back tightness may have been as a result of sleeping wrong. He plans to pitch opening day though the team is in yet short. To the big finish still at West, coast conference has the latest star to fall sports until September twenty, four. Th. What does that tell you absolutely nothing saying again? The NBA synonymous, reminding wearing masks and dressing appropriately while receiving room service is a reason.

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Is Now The Time to Learn, Invest in Pokemon Cards? | Tea With GaryVee

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46:35 min | 2 months ago

Is Now The Time to Learn, Invest in Pokemon Cards? | Tea With GaryVee

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There's only one hundred and twenty one of them in the world or something like that. Just. Yeah. Just about what range how are you nick what your world must be going nuts? Oh, it's insane. It's absolutely insane. As soon as I heard you talking about Pokemon in senior posts about I was like, oh my gosh this guy's already also how could he get even cooler? DUE TO FOCAL TO SEE JUMPING INTO POK MON everybody is so excited about it. So you know what's funny. The sports card stuff comes supernatural to me I, know everything about Sports, Pok Mon, my my life with that was I'd already started my kind of business career when that happened but I have AJ was eleven years younger than me and he was right in pocket middle school when it came out I remember Aj had. Like pneumonia or Was Real Sick and I convinced my dad when they have to work to go down to the sports card store and I was out of sports cards at that point. But I knew it existed down the street and I knew Aj was on, put him on and we bought a box of like. The first shadow lists and I'll just never forget how happy he was like just going crazy and and. It just an incredible Ip and. I really think that cards in general are going to be looked upon the same way that contemporary art. Is looked upon. So I bought the chart hollow because I look at it like a Jackson pollock or Warhol. and. I think people are grossly underestimating how much more room this has over the next decade. Yup. Agree a hundred percent and actually that you jumped right into of my questions was I actually had you quoted? as saying after your vacation everything you Threes. Yet the IT, literally, the top five percent, the massive transformation just lady said with Contemporary Art. So that was actually I was gonNA jump into that in s q to elaborate on a little bit because at really that got me thinking as soon as i. saw that post I'm like, wow, that's you your way for a week and you really Kinda I feel like you kind of thought about it a little bit more had some more thoughts thought about a little more. I thought about pretty much the whole time it was very down. And like was had been thinking through this three year journey for me. Again. On clarity for the audience and for you is no question the place that. I'm least knowledgeable about but my inner circle Lou Tyler Aj. They're all deeply deeply into it dusted. Dustin and like Jason a lot of people like but those three who I talked to the most daily basis or very, very, very deep. It's the. So. Here's how I look at it. I think the people are very. Confused because. They look everybody you talk to I'm sure you're living through this when you talk about this and it's starting to happen it sitting the mainstream a lot more than it did two years ago. Everyone's original thoughtful smart people are like but Gary like like this has been around for while why now? Why now or or or the bigger issue people looked at sneakers nine, hundred, ninety, four as things you warn your feet. People did not look at them as things that people would sell twenty, five, thousand dollars a pair things change over time. You know like things come along like people. Oh watches didn't start off as something one would collect. There was there was a very weird conversation at some point in history. I'm under educated on this where somebody's like these are collectible items and everybody in the town square laughed at her him. And so you know to me I look at who what's the makeup of the forty to sixty year old the thirty five to fifty, five year old currently in the world and what is she and he gonNa do for the next forty years. That's different than what their parents did. I have zero interest. In buying, you know a three million dollars painting could couldn't be lesson to. Your mom up to go on Ebay at two am and hunt cards. I love that process but I'm talking about me because if you focus on focus group of you always lose like this had nothing to do with me I love cards my whole life I've been public since two, thousand, six with one, hundred twelve started going around with the with the. But I've been doing public content from two, thousand, six to two thousand. I've been really two years now two, thousand, Eighteen, twelve years, and the only time I would talk about sports cards was as a context point to my career. So when I started talking about it two years ago as like you need to get into this and the amount of money. That my community has made because they bought. Luca. Danni thirty-five. Fifty dollars and now are selling them a two thousand I mean the emails and DM's get or just incredible. But the reason I'm bringing that up is for twelve years. I had the chance to talk about it but I into because it wasn't happening. Three years ago I saw the early indications of believing that cards were about to explode in value. Specifically I thought basketball because if it's overall popularity and it's global, reach the Internet Ebay stock ex infrastructure soccer proper football and to me proper football basketball and POK MON are the clear most interesting places I also get very interesting in wrestling vintage. And vintage basketball, but but I think POK Mon.. People that. The IP. The Passion around pokemon is much bigger than people realize much. I think if you've surveyed most people about where Pokemon sits versus star wars, they would lose that bat they don't understand how big is mostly star wars like it's real real real big. It also is gender neutral in a lot of ways so much a great female collecting action in Tokyo. At skews as a higher percentage, which I think is much needed because women make things always better dudes with dudes always come. To me I just I think that there's an incredible shift and that. A lot of people call it a hundred thousand wealthy people, and you've got to understand how this all works. One hundred thousand wealthy people thirty, nine, forty two would rather have a Bill Russell. Nine, hundred, Fifty, seven, tops, PSA nine, a you know a charred, right You're hollow first addition piercing nine. With a Walter Payton seventy-six tops rookie with a you know it's not as valuable but a Ken Griffey Junior Psa ten upper deck that's their childhood and they're gonna I think whoever builds The best in home. Case to display twenty, five top cards as a piece of furniture is about to build a fifty million dollar business. So I think that the the wealthy are going to express their wealth because that always happens through sports and POKEMON and alternative kearns graded. In home that will trickle down and then when you start seeing. You know these cards go from fifty and one hundred, thousand dollars a piece to a million dollars a piece it will trickle down. You've got a whole generation of people that want to be entrepreneurs. Nothing nothing will teach people that are watching right now fifteen sixteen, thirteen nineteen more than learning how to buy and flip a piece of cardboard and learning how to merchandise it hold when the held when the cell. Buying and selling trading you. Living that kind of like Rau-. Like human trait of trading. Rocks for sheep. In us, it's what we do and I think Pok Mon sits at the. All it it's so too stodgy for so many people I mean going back for myself. I grew up with it as it popped off in nineteen, ninety, nine, two thousand, and I just want Meghan to Megan I I. Apologize I to just interesting comment I love you. But the thing is taking you over money money money invest invest your message of happiness is confused Megan apologize and maybe it's just my sheer segment I'll try to be much more clear with this. It's not how I see it at all Meghan I think that I'm a businessman and my message is absolutely about happiness but the. Happiness can be put through a lot of different highways. One could be talking about it through a family dynamic through a craft dynamic. Lane is entrepreneurship and business i. Meghan I don't know if you. What you know when you say this card thing is taking over what you're seeing is deep happiness me Meghan I'm actually. Likely GonNA leave a lot of money on the table because I'm focusing so much on my happiness right now that I'm not doing other things for my other businesses that would make me more money. I'm really really sorry that that's what you You know what you're getting for me and more importantly and I appreciate the hearts I will do a better job. I think so any excitement and I'll be honest with you. I think there's a whole. Slew of people that will have so much more happiness buying and selling pokemon cards than being a lawyer. And like I actually think this whole conversation is actually about happiness for talking about cardboard with pictures on it. Being a a commerce capability I can't believe that millions of people are about to turn their hobby into their profession, which is actually GONNA lead to dramatically greater happiness than them dragging themselves to the jobs they hate. So again, you're right Meghan. I'm definitely trying to help people understand the economics behind it but Meghan what you need to understand is that almost everybody dismisses how significant this can be I. Don't think people understand that even if they're average, there's a very substantial chance. If they don't gamble and poke, you can go into this people gamble they buy packs and I think they're all evil but if you're gonNA. Go ahead. Please anyway mega just. I just want to make sure there's no confusion I always speak in parallel of like financial stability. and. And Happiness and doing with love and I think making you know this and that's what he said the hearts I want people to make one, thirty a year selling pokemon and leave their two hundred thirty, thousand dollars a year job. I want people to Lee you know to leave their forty seven thousand dollars a year teaching job and make thirty nine, thousand year flipping garbage pail kids because they'll be they'll be happier doing that than teaching. I'd rather than stay teaching if they don't or what I'm really excited about is for a lot of people and this is where it really gets fun. For a lot of people are if they study for fifteen to twenty hours because if go to Ebay and they buy a qualifier PSA which has a stain on it, they'll get you can get off fast in Pok Mon especially because there's so many variations of the first series and a million things but. The thing that I'm most passionate about is the hundred thousand people are going to watch this video over the next couple of weeks. So. Many people are GonNa make an extra thousand dollars a month that is going to allow them to take their family down to the Jersey shore and have trip while the government's not sending. US subsidize checks anymore. So yes, I am I am. Know excited about the commerce stuff. It's not about the money money money part is collateral of the happiness that also will help so many families. When we go into this real recession because we're not sending people free money anymore. anyways. Deeper is the happiness of it because if if just for a little bit of history I tried the college thing I dropped out two three times. It wasn't for me. It didn't work for me. I couldn't sit there and I just I just couldn't do it. So I jumped into different things actually started going to garage sales yard sales nine ten years ago before a lot of people were doing it and people were doing it but you could literally go to any garage sale and there was hits every single one. Yeah I did that for a while but in. The back of what I was doing was the office jobs, the nine to five, the construction work, and those were the things that I wanted to get away from to make myself happier and I took all the money that made from the garage sales and yard sales turned into other business ventures and built on from there in about five years ago. That was the hustle right I mean that's that's what you preach. Right so About five years ago, I got back into POK MON solely based off of that nostalgia in the happiness and that's what helped grow genuine passion happiness and excitement out of it which you could just you could see it and people could see the passion just going on and talking about it. So from there is where I grew it and about a year ago I started my youtube chat not even a year ago eight months ago I started my. Youtube Channel decided to go full time with coke on trading cards So that's what I do now on Youtube Tokarev in one of the biggest things that we do is strive for his just to have fun but also with that be able to teach people and help them learn about what should I buy, what should I sell you know the market collecting and things like that and just I mean just for example, like I edition jungle booster box. A lot of people ask about the first series of POK. Mon, you know where to start and I try to help people go in the right direction with Pokemon. So like you said, if somebody wants to make extra thousand dollars a month or a week, they have that opportunity right here right now and it's happening right now and not even just vintage it's definitely happening I just WANNA make sure everybody who's like wait a minute what's going on here because they followed me from the and they are not following me in this world. You have to really educated people right. You'll agree with me right like. I mean covering academy running I will go and I will we talk about putting them off for four hours straight And I'm sure you've seen so many people you know. Cry. At of crap I got excited. Went on Ebay I bought this and then I realized it wasn't the right one or it. I didn't understand what it PSA qualified or was or You see a lot of that, right? Right. And and the reason I, bring that up everybody is like A. Gold Rush or things that nature. There's a real significant moment and this will be a moment to four seven years and then like everything will then just like Pok Mon just. There will be. They'll that may happen in four years that may happen in four months that may happen in seven years. I. Don't know but clearly things are going this way. Where you will really get hurt right now even though it's easy and every time you buy a car and it goes up a week later or a box or things that nature is if you're under educated and you think you're buying something when you're not. Controversy Yellow and red cheeks PG in the I. GotTa be educated there's. A The one question that you had with the contemporary art I did have one thing I was hoping you could help cross off my bucket list. If you have a minute I always wanted to say that opened up a booster pack with Gary Viso. So I got a couple ranch here. Let's go. Do it. Here I know this will fire you like this. So this is hidden face, right this is a modern set that was released last year inside of fear the biggest you can get is the chart the shiny chart. So in a PSA about fifteen hundred dollars, and this is just a modern packed and you could pick up at the store, go to target Walmart and pick up this past so not anymore. They're older. There's the reprint common but. I mean if we Don't even know. So basically, we'll go through here when we get a rare. Come on. Can we get a hit? It's GonNa hit. We get hit with Gary. It's GonNa hit. GonNa hit. Let's get hit. got. All Right? More more. More for the road. Let's go. Let's get one. And what we do is in the chat, we bring the Luxa guys doing some watch. Jar Manner Right. I addition and also shiny hidden face one. Nice. Come on. Hollow hollow even better than now. Thanks and. Listen opening packs of such a thrill get educated follow this. We'll talk soon brother ticket. Thanks I wish you wealth he pushed her too. Easy. Garavini. Let's go guys man I can't believe here talking you're right now who serve as the sack. Very. Good. My friend where are you from? Originally from Vancouver BC visit my family right now but I currently live in Montreal Quebec. Man, I just wanted to say thank so much I've been watching content for almost three years now and You've just changed my life like you've been putting positivity in perspective hard work hustle in my ear every single day, and because of you I find my passion, I do videography in content creation and actually from the woman that I love because of us is for Mattis hearts out to you and I appreciate it so much I love that thank you so much. Thank you. Cuyler were can answer for you brother. Yeah. Man Like that like I said. So my name's Tyler I'm videography for at content creator I do full time for a company like I said in Montreal Quebec at called simply PHP, and early on this year before Kobe did I started actually a show called the making show, which is a podcast youtube show I dedicated to helping people get started through the process of making it. Kinda to what you did for me a lot of the advice you're giving me just start just go ahead and do it and I picked up a camera fell love with it learned everything to do with it, and then made my career out of it. Right. So I want to pay that forward and let people know that. Hey, you can start this process and you can make it happen. I love that. Yeah. Thank you, Matt. Thank you. Some trying to document this journey of me becoming this kind of creative entrepreneur outing. So my question is around doc meaning over creating. So how do we know I'm bringing value while documenting and kind of learning at the same time because to be honest I find it hard to know what to say sometimes while documenting that documenting. If. You're thinking about what you're saying then you're thinking about creating. Documenting. Is just documented. Humility to show the process is the real question cuyler. Documenting you becoming this person means predominantly that you're showing your failures. But most people want to show the highlights just super scary. which is super scaring. But Ironically, why people love you. Yeah. So like from a practical standpoint, Lizanne messed up on a client shoot or something showing those kind of like. And you listen I. Don't want you to lose your job you have to be careful. But. Yes. Yes. In a way that doesn't become detrimental to you and your family. Or. Something you learned like like I learn things. All the time that I remember like seven years ago me really grasping Ebitda, which was something that a business person should have really understood. You know ten years earlier than that. That would have been a great thing to share. Got It. I think. So I I guess getting over it to like hearing you say I get it and then getting over it to like practicing it every single day and putting myself out there as the next. Hurdle. Yeah it's like it's you have to you have to be okay with the wins and losses. And it's if you're documenting, you're really really really really talking about your journey then make journey. Everybody Sucks Bro. Everybody sucks. Like. Don't put anybody on a pedestal mean your dad and mom. That you know Mark Cuban Margaret Thatcher Not Anybody just like show. Behind the scenes content me editing to midnight at night documenting documenting. This Dustin can take over cuyler documenting documenting. Not Editing. Let's move the dust. Thanks Gary thanks cuyler. Oh. Thank you so much I appreciate you got it. All right so I usually like to have a little bit of A. A lert that this is going to happen. You know like the Karate Guy at mentally prepare to break the brick but. I'm not mentally prepared for this right now. So. A bust out some of these cards again. So I got these. Japanese. Cards. Definitely a little harder to. Determine. What do? Skip going coup. Gerry what's up? What's good my manpower you man I'm Tom on my. Show since when you start this March Your team kicks ass and I appreciate you but. Give you a little context on sort of trying to figure out professionally you've talked about you know the grind in the third and being soft and. I I wonder. If if being soft hold, you back what you can do to overcome it because. I've been real estate, my whole career. I'm in Austin Texas SORTA new here five years ago was working crazy hours crazy money like you talked about. Very lucrative but just shit life. No Fun with the kids family. Wife at the time that didn't fly so. I changed things up when the wife shutdown on it and to save my relationship with my kids. So I've sort of gone to just basic stuff real sorta like your sister I follow her yesterday's the hopefully bluer up collab- and. In that type of thing, anonymous situation or. I'm doing the realtor thing to grind hell I'll still do the grind and stuff like that. But through the tough times, I really had a lean on my family I feel like it's like the hunting Oy can go to and they're super supportive but. What do you do when you get to a point like now I wanNA pull the trigger mega shift in real estate not something huge. But is that when you said? On the family who are you referring to we talking about emotionally or financially both? The. Financial part will hold you back. The emotional. Awesome. Yeah. The financial part if you feel like you can get money for Mom Dad brothers, I, don't know who you're referring to like. That support problem. Like that is a fundamental problem when when one does not stand on their own two feet, they are always unbelievably vulnerable and more. Importantly, they subconsciously do not have the leverage with that human being and that human being is able to kind of dictate that person's life. Yeah, it gives them a little extra influence for sure a ton of extra influence. Young people don't want to bite the hand that feeds them. And so it puts you in. You're you're unhappy about here it's why you're asking this question, which is amazing. I'm so proud of you. First of all, being able to say that out loud because that's not something many would want to admit. I would argue that the far majority of people over the age of twenty five who take money from a family member to live their life. Ninety percent of them keep that quiet. So the fact that you're even able to put that out there and the fact that you kind of just painted the picture, it's funny where my chemicals are go right now I'm pumped because that means you're on the edge you're. GonNa do it. It's a lot harder to tell a million people right now. In the world over the next six months of million people watch this. You do that that it is to stop doing it. And make a jump. Right right. Now I think it's your content about not really giving up what people think about me is just woken me up and I think a lot of people. I mean I'm exposing myself as I don't want to be held back at want happiness. I WANNA. I'm so uncomfortably like proud of you right now Chris you're literally it's really fun for me because people come on the show and they're very different places of the process. To get to the upswing. Sometimes, they're on the upswing. Like you're like, my favorites are this one. When the person is literally an inch away from getting dramatically. Happier. I'm home for. Bro All you have to do is stop taking it. Literally to symbols that, and this is for the millions of people that are watching. The fifteen years of this video the second you stop taking money from somebody all you have to do is live more humbly, every person can live a little more humble. Do not let your parents your brother, your sister. Sometimes, your child have that leverage on you. Yeah. It's huge. It's huge pro because what you know Chris is. It like. Yeah it it makes you not go. It paralyzes you. That's the thing like right now it's not slinging at dill dylan the door it's. Still sort of paralyzed like why now listen I all I love that you took assessment and you said, wait a minute. I don't want to do pat- pattern recognition. So let me create real meaningful time and depth of my children. That's just a remarkably smart move. Will. It was like you know I can't control what another adult wants to bail. But I'M GONNA save my religion and by the way the more you look at it as did she bail or did you create scenarios that? It's ridic- even making whether you guys were fifty fifty or even if it was more on you the second, you even change in your mind the word bail, the more you're GonNa win. Get on your. Own. Your Shit Bro Accountability ownership you know what's called the recently world is. So until three now is everybody in America just wants to blame somebody else. Right. Like. It's so it's so not fun to look yourself in the. Mirror. And to blame other people for me, it feels good in the micro. Of course, it feels a moving in the micro and the macro when you gotta go to sleep at night wake up, it fucking sucks corrupt, which is why the reverse each shit in the micro and fucking love the macro right? Right. Amen, the real games in your own head with yourself life is you with you everybody's playing it as if it's you with them I didn't even know them I. don't even see that and I mean you know this pro and con Gary You so humble people let me. Because I don't believe in the cheering. I. Don't think I'm special I. Burt gummer genius I don't think I'm great I. Don't I. Think Nice I like it. But guess what my mom just as a million other people like I like it's just circumstances. But. Equally does brother is it like I could give two shits of the businessmen and women that make more that have more for the guy or Gal that ends up buying the New York jets. That's not me. I'm fucking happy with you. Congratulations. Now win me a super bowl like I don't care like that. I just WanNa, be happy back to the earlier comment where the very lovely young lady I forgot the name I think was like, Gary, you're losing your way with cards I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no no I love this. I'm finding my way. Ending my way. I can make a lot I can I can be spending this time right now raising a huge hedge fund and make forty you really in times more money and by the jets none no no I want to be happy I want to look for Walter Payton Rookie Card set eleven thirty pm last night because vintage football is like maybe the next thing. No No. No. No the past Steve my brother's like at target warmer. He's killing I. Go to target Walmart. I don't know shit about it. I'm buying card. The question is, do you want the I? Think we need to do is take a step back and think about like what? Is it music is food is movies like to be idle. Like this was my whole pat like this is the every single day from nine, hundred, eighty, six to nineteen ninety-three. This is all I thought about. Ross knock school. This. So this is what I, love so. On what you know think back to junior high high school you you know outside of like if you're normal girls. Like the boys when you know but like what you like. What you said a couple of weeks ago, it was a law that you had started business or you went to jail. That hit me huge that bad ass because it's so true that really puts you in perspective of like whole shit. What would I do? It when you don't change. The paper like my man j just said when the money when you don't chase it and chase like desperately wanting to wake up and be fight looming example, this is a big insight for me I. Have Woken up more excited for work every single day over the last four months and I asked myself why and then I looked at my calendar it's because I'm doing a lot more business development every day. More than half my day now is potential new client potential client groups clients marketing for the now nuclides client. So I'm on the offense when I looked at my calendar for the last two years, it was defense operations operations operates why I promoted Mark yut-kin who my general counsel and it's been with me even before Bainer media doing my he was my lawyer when I bought twitter and facebook and Tumbler. He's now being promoted to co I'm still very operational, but I'm going to try to move more him. So I can do more things that I like I'm in a better mood when I'm business developing Right Yeah my it's just a nuance in real estate. I love real estate by like more investment side the Roi side than so real quick. I would tell you that you like transacting. On like. Do you like the. Real estate development side more than a transactional one off hoping with more. Dollars or because you think there's more strategy. More strategy brain activity. Agree. So to me, I do think you need to look at. What are your hobbies? I. P me way back like high school you. What did you fuck with? Food. Skiing tennis cards like help me. High School I was California love the beach love the water oceans. Surfing. Oh yeah, I mean if I could get in salt water every day I'd be Chris you need to you need to think about surfing culture. Like maybe you start a fucking west coast brand like vans make like this you gotta into that. Yeah there's a Lotta Shit entrepreneurs in my head that I fuck with all the time, but it's about pulling the trigger. Holds me back because I got. What are you scared of going backwards if it failed financially and having to go to. When I grew up, my dad was a hot mess alcoholic didn't produce bring income drama cops domestic the whole thing in. So if I'm not producing income generating money financially I feel I come. With me what time do you go to sleep? Round Tanisha. Great what time do wake up? For your show I got up at five, but usually. So. Get a nice eight, which is amazing. Talk to me about eight PM, to ten PM. The you know I thought about this because I literally shut off work at six and then I have something to eat and online either one of there's nothing that. Yeah I just think that's okay. This is going back to I. By, going on Ebay for three hours and finding some rare card that nobody sees yet. I want you to Veg from seven thirty to ten thirty notice what I'm playing a little bit here. On the building of Your Surfing Podcast or you're surfing Tok or linked like I'm telling you right now brother. Crush about, and your first book is always the biggest to who you actually are. crushed. Your seven thirty to ten thirty is the most interesting thing to me in the world my know that you can find something. You can bet you that will produce income for you at twenty nine months in and that's what you can be doing while you're bringing in an income from eight am to six PM period and the story I believe it I've seen one hundred thousand times. Amen and Chris Start Nine different things. Started Surfing fucking content thing. Start do that for for change like you see where I'm going what all nine things. And do things if you're not like if you're so pumped about five of you really fuck with the other four. No I. Probably go with those five and just see what happens and one I've made pop so much fucking. This is actually working people fuck with me here. I. Don't need the other four. Cool. Real. Seven thirty to ten thirty, write that down put it right now on there and just look at it every day seven, hundred every day. Ask yourself what if I could start a business or I have to start a business? Okay. I'm going to do this surfing thing. I'm GonNa do the starving thing I if I could be in water all basically I, want you to interview every great surfer if UTM to all eight hundred Greek. Surfers and said I'm starting to surfing podcast you an interview with me three will say, yes, Chris Yeah, and that's a good use of seven thirty, ten, thirty, six days in a row the Deanna. Slater's that Kinda guy just say, yes. No, he's good. Great Dude. And I know some guys in the circles for sure and that makes me want to punch myself in the face more because you're fucking ready. And then guess what four episodes in like fuck I'm bad at interviewing people this is stupid. and. So next it's like. You've always wanted designer shirt. You might be the next ocean. Pacific. For the old cats you know what I'm talking about or jammed shorts. Chris listen to me. You can do this. It's seven thirty to ten thirty you do it for two years something starts happening and then it actually becomes your eight to six. That would be bad, ass? Yeah. It's real brother. It's called the Internet. No I did your flip game even though I didn't know the fuck I was doing flips from cards boxes made one hundred bucks not like damn. Israel itsuko. I'm so scared for my reputation to not be good that never say anything that I don't already know works. It just doesn't happen. I knew the cards we're GONNA pop for six months. And would spend an hour every night or when I was travelling. Like, just quadrupled checking because I knew I was going to get loud. And I. Live off of you saying Damn One, hundred bucks I know that meet. Let you mean something. I can't live a life where I'm like Gary You made me lose a thousand dollars. This whole market collapsed. I can't live that life I'm done. It it's It's so straight up the only thing like you said, you got your homework. You got your stuff in my brother like eat sleep sports in They're like dude, there's a bunch of tops chrome what's up? He's like by all of it. Get every single one. Go I bought it put it on Ebay. Sent off this big fat box Talk, one, hundred, hundred and fifty bucks, and there's so many people watching right now that like desperately. Could use an extra hundred bucks on truly. It's all out there. It's all out there. You're by argus of Walmart. You just roll in there. Every day were Chris if you really do your homework buying on Ebay. Specific cards. Like the market is super real. That's where he's killing. I Love Sports. If you WANNA get into, you gotTa know it but you don't want Kristie you'll love the sports numb. Chris, we're not doing the sports, right? Now I got. A feeling that if you went on Fucking Ebay renowned started searching surfing gear and look the completed items. You could probably make one, hundred, thousand a year flipping fucking surfing equipment, buying it on ebay getting it retaking the photo and you know what I mean. Maybe you don't like that either maybe you aren't like I'm thinking about the the homeselling and the investment. So you do have that transactional flipping you. But you gotta try their Shittu please seven thirty to ten thirty needs your life. Please never let seven thirty to ten thirty not be you getting educated on things you're interested in. Its. Youtube and just type in surfing and I'm focusing on surfing because give me one data point. Other things. Are One last thing I've got a good friend that runs. An entrepreneurial nonprofit here if I can plug it real quick. and. It's called venture lab DOT ORG and they're on on facebook in I. Just think it's bad ass 'cause it's bringing entrepreneurialism to the use. led. His Best Rain Is the right spelling. Bro So whatever it is for entrepreneurs I'm all about. I gotta go. I'm ready one minute late. I love you pal. Br Get to in the questions we'll get to you on the show. Doesn't thank you so much everybody. 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#1725 From hustling on Coney Island at age 10 to building a $45M memorabilia business

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#1725 From hustling on Coney Island at age 10 to building a $45M memorabilia business

"It freedom fighters. My name is Andrew Warner on the founder mixer g where I interview usually tack software entrepreneurs about how they built their businesses. But joining me today is an entrepreneur who I met at a conference I flew to be at this mastermind run by Joe so to speak and sky was speaking with me, the only other speaker there other than the host was a guy whose book was got balls. And even heard of this guy will what is this is gonna do. And then I heard it was memorabilia, I thought interesting, and then I heard the guy talk, and I just loved it. I loved his book it's called out upside down gotta have balls. I read it about how this hustler entrepreneur who started out with nothing ended up building phenomenal business that among other things sold Yankee Stadium in dirt and other things to collectible to collectors and by on here to talk about how he built his business and to talk about why his follow up. Book is living on purpose instead of how to make more money, which is something your mom, always told you to do Brandon. I wanna find out why you're doing that. And we're gonna do it. Thanks to phenomenal sponsors, the I will do your Email marketing, right? It's called active campaign and the second will help you. Find your next phenomenal developers called top towel. Brennan. Good to see you. Nice three year friend good friend of what kind of turnover you guys doing. What's the annual revenue at at Steiner, sports and Steiner sports marketing and memorabilia, your company, we've we've been pretty constant forty forty five nine Dr top wind business, we have about seventy five employees. You know? I haven't been driven to drive. I know it's not gonna be popular. I say this. But we've been driven to have the most insane growth as opposed to having better, quality ideas and products. Remember on the marketing business your procurement athletes now. Has a lot of growth consensual use getting athletes to appearances stuff and marketing stuff in campaigns collectibles is a limit. So my job is as creating these products. Is there not have enough? So sometimes it does work against the growth thing. But we we do. Well, we make money, and we have a we have a lot of great customers. And so we're in around that top line forty million. I feel like you're working your tail off. I don't even know what the hell you're doing here. Talking to me to be honest with you, like the conferences over you shot me, an Email to talk about the chat bots that I was using and how you can integrate it in your business. You've got a Facebook page year grow at wonder why dude you've made it you don't how many extra customer you're gonna get by having me on. Why are you doing this? Why are you still working so hard? I'm joy. I mean what I like doing it? I have a balance to that not a work life balance. But a balanced soon. You know, what I wanna do? But think about this. I've done. Well, I enjoy what I'm doing. If I don't go home, no problem. But I think that you know, every day I'm able to use the influence. I have to help others which is not a burden to me. It's -joy. Really? So when I get to meet somebody like yourself, who's lots more than the about a lot of things that I really don't know all out about, and it's a real it's a real lesson frankly, and I'm still learning. I'm still interested in I'm so curious and every day, I promise myself Ossis owes aval success financially that I would spend a percentage of my day rowing in helping others not just money grabbing and just trying to figure out ways just to make more money. And I think I'm a more well rounded person of probably been a friend, and I'm learning. I I still think my best days in front of me. I want to hear about what you what you're doing with everything that you've learned how you sold art. I thought it was it. It sounds kinda easier. I you sell dirt had seems kinda cute. But the way that you kept leveling up was interesting. Let's go back in time. I circled this one phrase in your book what else because it just kept coming up all your. Stories and I told you before we started gotta have balls as a cool title. And I think you're right of named at that. But boy, the what else were what else phrase is almost more important to your life. Let's talk about how it express itself, you were doing daily news delivery as a boy, and you want to this woman in this building apartment building. And you said what to her while? I was in Brooklyn it the book, you gotta have balls was dedicated my mom who was always what else. What else what else and always say what else times? What's next is what get your first market? We thinking what else? What's next gets I market? And my mother was always never satisfy whatever came back through with. She was always went us highly differentiated off, I need you more. So I go to this lady. And I'm trying to open up as many counts as I can. And I was only twelve at the time in an overall the most accounts were win extra candy bars. And I'm trying to figure out some acting. This woman got eighty. Old seventy five years old ask if she wants the paper delivered. She says now, ma'am, the same prices me as a quarter store eight cents says yet, but then I got Scipio and she kinda shut the door on my face. And I went home. I told my mom like the people is neighbor, so cheap. Our why we live here is terrible. And my mother said, look, I gotta say a couple of valuable lessons. Here. One is differentiate yourself what else can you do for this woman? And you gotta stop selling start serving, you know, start solving entrepreneur Sava problem. You're just trying to sell something you're not gonna get anywhere. So I'm going back knocking on doors. Nothing. I mean, I am really scrapping. I go back to this woman's house apartments is like the fourth floor is like ten thirty at night. It's like, are you crazy? What's rollers and Samantha's had to come back to you? If there's a rental downpour snow storm blizzard. I mean, he wave a woman says your age should be outside getting newspaper. If I bring you milk and bagels are Wednesdays. And Sundays which you get the paper delivered for me, then I'll never be late opportu at seven thirty. So you get the same value may be better. And I'll get you these other things if you need something else like a free to was unbelievable. That story is not only that women sign up, but she was friendly with everyone in the neighborhood and went from twenty nine daily one hundred ninety nine twelve hundred ninety nine dailies two hundred thirty four Sundays swagger, but the mainland Siler net for anybody listening is are you listening to your customers really listening to the market and really understand what people need not just about. What you want to sell and serving you saw me a problem in your protest. What you're selling what you'd servicing people with you are on welfare grownup. Yeah. Topping the food stamps embarrassment. Specially we're we grew up in middle age home a middle-aged neighbor. I mean, middle income neighborhood and lived over Glock OSHA butcher over a store, which was pleasant. And it's. You know, we we really don't kosher. I didn't understand this until I read your book. They're actually slaughtering chickens in a glut. Kosher butchery because they wanna make sure that the coat that. It's Lord kosher. And so you're living in that type of environment. I read in your book about how was super cold when they closed on on the Sabbath. You wouldn't have any heat? You had two times going call the police and get him to turn on the heat or you'd go and break locks going. But let's talk about an embarrassing moment. Growing up in that environment where everyone's doing fairly well for themselves. What's one of the moments that stands out for you? As like, the most embarrassing was the depend situation was something else. So many. I mean, you're obviously we had to go to the electric company. I handle the checkbook starting around ten or eleven we wouldn't have enough money to pay the electric, and you go to the woman. Please ask you to hold the check. Turner for electric city, or even when I was at the appetizer counting the supermarket are trying to get a quarter of a pound salami. She says the over it's okay, I'd say, no, it's not, okay. Better off. I have enough money xactly for the pound. And I went up to front of my glass when I was in fifth grade, Mr. Kerber, and he gave me an envelope of money, which was you know, to help pay for clothing beside Ripa my right knee everywhere in the same pants for three row. I mean, you know, you don't realize when your kid, you only know what you know, at that point. I knew that we didn't have a lot of money. We are trouble. And then had to give it countable to get serious. And that forced you to go and get a job. Yeah. I mean, I think it's the young probably work at ten, but I did. And so I never wake up in the morning worried about five work or make money 'cause we start doing that at San on streets scheme in dreaming that ten is trying to fair you've got also you can make money legitimately. We that's a that's a big thing. Like, an an. Figured out that my mother kind of guiding me helped me law, which mice games some right? Like what what's what's an example of a scheme grown baking bagels? And I come home. I said mom, I got this idea. I'm going get a van cop side of the van a Bego on top of the van, and I'll go up and down the streets on the weekends and people go pick up their bagels, go to the bagel store. If it gets aims of cream cheeses Melissa's. Let's really good idea. You're fourteen. You can't drive. Always like on each cell, conditions, koneohe beach and did sell it. I was so conditions. Go Soeda and those bags or the soda was really heavy. But you know, he makes quick money wasn't cranking sort. I did I buy these big packets Oreo cookies now like now is silly levels of stars work rookies. Few board Oreo cookies three sleeves one big back. When I did I got the Baggies, and it would take three Oreo cookies put in a little baggy, and I saw cookies and all the kids would come. Then. I'd sell my initial goal soda. Scheme dream of different angles of how to differentiate myself whenever I was selling stuff. And I think the real pointed stay one more quick story is when I knew I was an entrepreneur is my mother own a salon to touch. Listen. I want you going meet the Ellena white. He fires people to get air guts and washing sets during the week. Hundreds of people come off, the f train our king style way was in express. And my mom law was only to box from there. He said I'm busy on Friday and Saturday get busy during the week. So when referred my mom's launched like not lied about flyers underneath the L up. I'm giving flies we talking about. I gotta cover you talking about your year. Could you be underneath EL as I got four kids. One of each entrance. Is math fact, I went to to other stores fires for them. She's well, how you paying them severe easily the kids enabled a lot of the parents don't wanna work giving fireworks hustles fanatical by some fireworks and giving a fireworks and thinking cats the other people, Amy. On the flyers. I'm making money on that. And the kids are static because they want the fireworks fireworks. And I'm supervising I'm working very all right now four people working two hours a new four kids coming on. So we work two hours. And that's what my mother said. There's something very wrong with the. That was too much even for her fourteen or fifteen that kind of scheme in that was pretty good. Do you ever worried that your kids won't have that? I mean, your kids are old enough now that you can see how they turned out largely due. Did you worry at the time you're setting them up much better than your parents set you up? Oh, yeah. I mean, I I worry my wife, and I argued quite a dip is remember my kick him our room. It's his dad. Can you take me to school on my no, look like a taxicab driver? My limo driver. Now that I can't take him. I know you God gave you two feet is a school bus a couple blocks away figure it out his dad. I'm nine I'm like, I know you're not you're not man, I won't everyday. Well, a big conversation. My wife, and I know. And you know, I love my kids. But what are these learn I never got quite upper with how much of? What we have. I never it for my kids. So I didn't see, you know, you lucky have this car or you ever. What nicer have it? I always told my kids the truth. But I always told the process to get some stuff that have that's what I share with them. I share with them. I how hard at work to get this stuff. And it's up to them if they want to work that art to get themselves. It may not be interesting or not. But I never made him feel guilty about having it is I know they never asked for it. And I was really showed my kids as often as heard the process and the real joy of getting a whole lot of success financially is about what you can give back and what you could share with others not about the money getting the money grab. So you could just have more the real joy is sharing it hoping others and paying forward. And that's how they judge one day. But how much they can pay four but not much money. They have in their back. Those my big emphasis, Mike this. They seem to turn out. Right. I saw your son there at the event, let's continue with your story with this. What else that again, I've circled so many times in your book we saw express itself as a kid. Let's talk a little later in your life. You're working at the high and you wanted to find a way to do what else there, do you? Remember the story I'm referencing from the book. I I will couple Madge at high. I was just Trini. Remember coming home one day in one of the one of my roommates got you Russian. That's what I thought west five hundred five hundred dollar raise. I'm in the coffee. Shop is a manager. And a reworking every morning now, if your hotel high on Baltimore on the harbor the first villain harbor, and whoa, talk pursues ninety two percents tax four hundred something room or tell and I realized how to wake up at five o'clock in the morning every morning to be at work by five thirty. And I think of I was thinking about killing myself. What what did I do? We are twenty two years old waking up at five in the morning is hell it's I mean, there's no other way to say it. I mean, I'm early riser. But you don't wanna have to be at work at five AM, especially at six AM. There's a good amount of people online ready for breakfast. And you re as prayer when you get to the hotel crayon near people show up because as much as it was for me. I got waiters busboys all these people. So I we're in this thing about you never ask. Person. Yes question. They are. Now fifty percent answer could be low. You wanna go out to the movies? You wanna go for dinner? You wanna go for Cup of coffee or maybe just meet for quick sandwich. There's oil. Yes. Yes. Braxton's so emphasized that for second. I saw that in the book, I loved it. You want ask? Yes. Questions where you give people to options that are great for you. And they're more likely to go with one of those two options instead of stopping and saying, wait a minute. I should actually say, no. So if I wanna go out with my wife, this Saturday night just to bring it a little bit too personal. 'cause you're gonna go business in a moment. I say if you wanna go out for dinner or do you wanna go out for drinks? And now we're talking about which one she prefers opposed to do you want to stay home in get comfortable instead of moving our asses outta there is just. Just want to do. No one wants to be told Lucy. Give me. Okay. So let's talk about how that express itself at the Hyatt with this. What else that mentality of yours? This works when everything I mean, any time you don't want somebody what to do. But at the high would I realize that I'm walking around bussing tables was one of my busboys doesn't show up and what is the bus by Ukraine tables, serve coffee. You're and I'm realizing I got another hand of elible now in high only going to get promoted by getting the average checkup, and I tried serving wine for lunch and dinner, but nobody's drinking wine in the coffee shop. So that was a boss, and I'm trying to think every which way to upsell to get those average checks up. He show that promote worthy of promotion and insurance. I realize that the one hand I have offi only asking would you like more offi? That's yes. Or no question. And I notice every day on the machine right back back a fresh squeezed orange juice from Shane now. I never even knew what that was always ranked Tropicana was delicacy for me. I we saw as every morning I had grown. Michelle was looking at raps fresh is delicious a beautiful picture of orange juice Rusk we's when I walk up each day with coffee, orange juice coffee aren't Hughes instead of yes. No, I'm asking you want most people said twelve and my check average you within sixty days ago promoted to rooftop restaurant were all the beautiful people were way to see his it just came from making. Sure that I ask the yes. Yes or yes question now. Yes, or no question. And that's the what else, you know. I'm not gonna sit there and do a year and a coffee shop waking up at six in the morning on the other hand. I'm not a quitter. I'm not going to figure out a way to get myself promoting elevated, and that's how I did it. But I think the yes or no question for people out there thinking about how you frame your words is so important, even when I meet somebody tell me something good. You know, I see tell me something good in our customer goes. Tell me something good something. That's great. That's going on that people light up about something. Good happening with them. Not. So we start the conversation sales cough. Speaking of sales. I'm gonna do a quick message for my first sponsor, and then continue on with the story, by the way. I really love. How you keep thinking about business? Always in your head to keep you keep thinking about business things that I love about the people over topped. How these guys they have top developers? Just like you keep thinking about business they keep thinking on wide problems. How do I develop better code? How do I actually help my clients do a better job, and they can't help it? I moved here to San Francisco, and it wasn't until I lived here surrounded by people who are engineers, Google Facebook. Apple that I started realized they are constantly thinking this stuff. 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Sounds like some that'd be did. So far to sponsor for the rate of them have to go. Check out at the active campaign is a marketer. I think you're gonna love them. You got into. Sports specifically, or you your business kind of took off from what I see in your book because of seven eleven they hard you to do. You're starting your own company. You're getting going and they hired you at seven eleven to do what? Well, actually, what it was was. It was a seven eleven promotion seven up not seven eleven seven the soda company. And we were sitting there were trying to rack that was how I got my first car, but it was also the beginning of really thinking about making flecked imprinting corporate premium knows a deal odor, seven up that distribute also Dr Pepper, and what we did is. We got the, you know, if you bought more product than the previous six months in that one month, you able to get one of these seven footers, and we went to seven footer Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Larry for all the big men in bash me their autograph or you get north jersey got it. And so what you would they hired. You said, hey, look, we need more stores to start bringing in the seven up and buy it from us and sell it to their clients and. I know what if we offer them a collectible as a prize, they're going to be more likely to sell it. Which is kind of like what happened with you? As a kid selling newspapers you wanted that chocolate prize? Right. What before we continue with the story Brennan why why wouldn't they say, hey, what business owners to pay us in cash? I don't need a pride. Like a like a kid. Why is it prizes? Still work for motivating people in especially when they're thinking professionally will promotions for people not for profit. And as where mistake that a lot of companies make is they come up for pricing promotions. But they're really not great. And then at work all that. Well, and I think they have to have value valued where I defy why? You're my world is what I do for you. You can't do yourself. And at that time. Those jerseys autograph were really hard to get quick will really haven't been is. What is today, and it was a rare idea just to get the jersey it self really difficult. We had to get the custom made everything else. So when you offer somebody something that really is hard to get the. Themselves and back when I was a kid, by the way winning boxer Cambridge. I have no idea to get Oxy candy bars that was like unbelievable than it actually be able to win this and the same thing I felt like with seven footers we went and got Scottie Pippen, we have four really great MBA players. And we offer these autographed jerseys which new or rare hard to get and really incented people to go make the extra by 'cause the goal was they go to your they go to the customer. They look your sales over the last six months if you made a sales order for the next two months there were bigger than any two months in the previous six you able to get this jersey and a work like a charm went through the roof. And then we then the next month. We did a special hockey puck by the ten greatest goal scores and said we all have the same goal in common. And it was like if you ordered x amount of this new Proctor had the you'll get you'll get the puck the school that was the goal and kinda will plant worse. I like the play on words even the contest that I started off talking about was called seven footers for seven up. You'll get a collectible from a seven foot basketball player if you help promote seven I kind of skipped over how you started in business. Why you get started as a as an entrepreneur what led to that? I out of desperateness has a kid just always trying to forget schemes in different ways to make money off kid in the neighborhood. Just because you know, wasn't common your work, even as a teenager lead on his young as I did so part of which just desperate his food clothing. But I think that you had a job why were you desperate for more money? I mean, what's in your head and went to see the lighter early age. What you see that? Right. Just a lose that. So you still had your job? And you started your business on the side. But for me for me when I got out of school school is not easy. My mom is mama's like, let's not starting your own business. You not ready? You're gonna go or how money gets made up is get run people that know what they're doing go. Make the mistake of doing something to quick until your experience and understand is not just about the idea. You have you need to have the business principles hiring firing rant had to get space all marketing all the little things of doing business. Besides come up with a good idea next. And the smartest thing I did was wait seven years. I started smiling. This you learned you start your own business. Because that's who you were the first big thing that took off for you is that seven up promotion at that point change your company. It looks like the company. Name was Steiner associates. Why did you change it from Steiner's societas, starring searches was more of a PR name? I'd start off as a PR company helping to consulting for restaurants sports. Brought scene was high time is hoping sports Barnes open up. That was the help create back in the mid eighties. And you know, just didn't have a good ring to it. Steiner sports, sinus sports was the original. And then we added marketing to just better rain at a crisp. And remember back in the mid nineties. It really was not the may sports companies out. There were still very very new. I can't tell me but walked up to me what what's the sports company as I work. It was going to like how do they even work people, hire athletes people by autographed stuff? What is tyrod sports who have? Balance explained that they're Steiner sports. Was you actually have a sports company? It's not a sports company that I don't know that owns small baseball fields are any number of things or make sports equipment. It's you do marketing and a big part of your business. You know, what let me ask you this question. It's kind of a tangent. But I gotta ask you one fifteen of the book is chapter nine turning memories into money. It starts off by saying adopted from the business playbook page thirty three would we looking at here with this book where a section is adopted from another book because I got road create a job coming out of college was business play, but can really book geared towards kids in college or right coming out of college trying to go the brand. And it was a major part of the brand built was what you just talked about which we can raise that matter. It really responsible for my fortune that I've made it Steiner, and I told him in the business playbook, and it's always fair to mention that it came right in that book because I generally my books, repeat whatever it in another book, but this was worthy of repeating because it was the game changer was the moment the circle by raker job on that. You know, what I read these books so fast because I know if I'm going to meet the author, I can't let my mind wander. Can't let myself like lose focus focus read every single word in really helps that I get to talk to you right afterwards. And so what you're saying is like this moment in your book is so important that you wanted to recap it and this goes back to Walter Payton what happened with Walter Payton verse what happened the moment. Just just quickly go through that. Because at the end of the real learning this ability. It was funny to two thousand blogs written three books a man for literate. I struggled reading right. I mean, really. And with funny is used to read my kids stories at night when I didn't like reading I've never been a big reader and sometime I you know, I'd make up stores. I never I opened up a buck. And I'd just make up around story. My kids go crazy. So I go when I'm telling the story about my favorite moments sports, which was the ninety four Cup with Rangers won the Cup was a captain in my look over my son is dead asleep for him start the story. This is wrong. I'm about to tell you by most important sports moment. And now is the beginning of Steiner are never the moment campaign, which was needs are confused sit on his bed. And so myself that story by why Mark Mayfield macabre such important moments that awaited fifty four years ranger fans were waiting how there's such a big moment. And I realize it, wait a minute. Everybody has one of those moments human were caught in Fisk when he hit that home run or Bob, you are you're saying the moment in in sports that was dramatic for the player was also super meaningful for the viewer. And what you're saying was your realization was people wanna hold onto it somehow have a tangible experience, not just a memory. And when I think is that most people's lives moments that matter what. We remember remember these slack moments that matter and memory and holding on and you wanna you don't wanna let him go. So I would say, wait a minute. I used to collect all these magazines members. No internet, that's stuck going through the magazines and Joe name holding up the number one Ali over list in all these great moments. We remember where you were and has all these photos trying to find the tiger. I haven't he's athletes sign the photo. Right Eluned scripture. What happened in the phone? That's were our we change the collectible business is we came up with moments that matter and the in those photos, we found products that the player of us we found the actual bathroom using we replicate it we found the hockey stick that Wayne Gretzky used on his first goal ever has Dr. And we replicated that that stick. And that's what we were selling. That's what kicked off signer collectibles. We found was that mattered and that were affordable. And we produced the finder. Sandy, right. You have I doing promotion for for? Hospitality companies like restaurants, you then discovered through the seven up that a sports connection made more sense than just being in the in the PR marketing space, then you started selling the products, and this I never thought signer was going to be a product of me for fans I was to be play. But it started becoming that after seven up seven was a busy day play. We work with a company that did promotions. Please them what got you into actually selling the products to individuals to people that I was telling my kids before that you weren't even selling items. I was just so like if you were a sales person I'd say assigned ball you go to a meeting so at bitch. He's sandy Koufax ball Whitey four-ball. And I was cute or with senior autographed bat look for it in all with the two thousand eighteen now worked I never thought the product was going to be a brand play. I thought it was just going to help you do more business as. Salesperson you business? Another business. Got it. Story at night. And all of a sudden, wait a minute. I think fans really want something more just autographed item. They want an autograph moment at matter. How did you get customers in the beginning? What's how'd you get customers in the beginning not easily, but I came up with a couple of different campaigns. Remember the moment capable jingle. We got into some catalogs one of biggest things breaks. I gone a lot of money as I mentioned earlier. But I haven't American Express car which has figured out how to get one and get these statements and in have different offers statement on my wait a minute. I bet you people wanna get a ball. If I put that in the statement of their study this rewards program. And they in their words for you able to catch up for signed ball. God. No one's ever gonna catch up. Wait for Sibol when they say, they're gonna cares points for all because they can't get this ball. They don't get this ball. And I'd get him this ball. And then we started going crazy with Merican express and all these other different catalog programs. They put autograph items in there. That's kind of how we got our initial run of customers. Walter Payton since I brought him up. He was running back for Chicago Bears. He was dying when you talk to him, and you came up with an agreement to do what with him. Well, we did is we did basically the last year of his life with us collection with him nights spent three weekends wall to doing some trade shows with for a couple of former sue companies he was amazing to work with. And I always say we sign autographs he number like signing for money. It always signed for fans, but didn't wanna get paid. But when he realized he was dying here. He thought it'd be a good legacy that we back product line Nieves. Some money for his family, and we signed twenty thousand nine that was really a. Abused? Great for me to got collection that collection together. I didn't realize how poppy was until unfortunately passed and certainly did put us on the map and a lot of ways. Sometime weren't. You aren't able to sell it until after he died, then it seems like the next big break was the next big opportunity was the Yankees versus Mets. Right. This was what two thousand or will. I never signed a lot of players to do their collectible lines of product one of these. We did at Stein at differentiated. We'd find a play report a product line together for him starting high school minor leagues all the different moments that happened in the place career. So when somebody was finanical about a player we able to put all Klein together. My first big big deal was Messier. But my first gigantic deal. It will Derek cheater and sure enough two thousand we lucky enough to get a World Series matched up with match. Yankees won the MVP and was a five million our Jewett jeeter, which you may in five million for what three years, and there was a lot of money back in two thousand ninety nine years of what readers signing autographs doing appearances doing clinic, which was a lot of money back. Then I paid a million seven per year based on a lot of autographs clinics to a couple of parents is and say was friend of mine, and you. Naarden deal as he had to say, he was a friend of yours. Not quite but we always we had our little innuendos stuff. How could it when people want Brandon signer we had the little keyword search to know if the guy was really my friend or not at the beginning where you mean him? Yeah. But more poorly we with him. We had the Yankee fan are such a run. I mean, it was crazy when when you're selling clinics. You're also getting paid for appearances. And you're selling the bats, the balls and everything else that he signed and clinics were important because our business when I was selling was going corporation, should look you can't get a client to meet with you go permanent event together with Gobert kit because most of the high level people posted the high level decision makers really hard to get interest with meetings with us where we invite them to go to clinic with our cheater they'll be on the sidelines. When you're talking while the kid is playing baseball there jeaner, you're definitely we started doing that. With me a ham. We started doing that wrong transit players. And that's what we really built up a great company corporate base. This really wealthy decide a great idea. Right. So how are they going to say no to bring their kid to once in a lifetime activity and while the kids are playing field. Great feeling good about the person who just bought this for them. Okay. So they're not. My claim to fame at the end of the day. If you're trying to get a meeting, you can't I'm guy you wanna call. I will get you that meeting ninety nine percent of the time because figure out a way to do something that has valued at the person you're trying to get the meeting with instead of trying to sell them. Craig what what's an example of something that you've done like that. What's non sports related? I feel exports doctor's office. I've been three weeks deliver kids delivered like sixty three kids in the last three weeks. I'm all three weeks kid kids on what to do and his birthday coming a loved hockey, if he can meet more temper or maybe somebody on the said, no, no, no that's stupid as I want. You to do is when a rent that rink because you know, needed look in front of your kids. Look good in front of your kids friends. Yes. Who can rent out, a rain? Martin's going to be the coach of the organizer of the game your kid and his friends are gonna come away hockey and more tenable doors, referees said everything opera do little credit. Now, you look good with your kid and friends and his friends, you can say, you know, you have the best in the world is the best way to turn your interest on it. Having friends come to your entire graded that you are. And I remember getting a letter from that kid about ten years ago. So twenty years ago, I did that and say, you know, my relationship my dad change from that day. I know you had a big part of doing that. I never would have got to know my dad or so I. In the back of she was never all. Then all of a sudden, we started getting hockey started on a hockey game together, and that Martin door appearance, we rented ring, which changed everything. But I could give you two hours of all that and that not come up for breath. You know it. So the big takeaway for me is the two things that I get away from that number one. I get the idea that if you wanna meet someone or give someone something give something to their kids. I even find tons of stuff in the office and the things that my kids can come in. And enjoy are the things that I get the best value in best upside for me number two is like a wife if I could get something that my wife would enjoy like, otherwise, it's just feels like a burden to me. And then the second artery give your wife, though, wife's not big on the way. But if something comes in, it's especially nice for her than bring it in and say this. Yeah. The what is my wife from harder to regain my wife. I if my kids, but now after my kids, we re gifted so anything I have claimed this is a regifter. Not for me when I'm making a statement that you joy this more than me. That's why I'm giving it to a second thing. Is that the bonding power sports? I don't have that. I I have no connection to sports outside of a few Yankee experiences growing up. Can you actually win somebody over if they don't love sports, don't even follow? It the way that you do what's a way to do that for someone who's not into sports or think it's even more important three not in sports in person struggling sometimes they loved one somebody in the family that does sports if you can make that little bit of a bridge. That's even bigger. The Mia Hamm clinic was another one guys have trouble doing stuff with their daughters. And always have a million things they can do their sons. So doing the soccer clinic with Mia was great thing for nine zero daughter who the guy was a father struggling with the do. Do my daughter now taking me a ham. Soccer, quiet. Bingo, got it. Mom and a million ways to do it. I think that I. A big part of most my clients, the best ones I've wanted not sports fans. Okay. There's so much that I wanna cover here with you. I'm gonna talk about my second sponsor didn't want to come back and ask what happened when the Yankees brought you in and said, hey, what are you doing? Who? Are you? What are you? What are you up to with our people number one number two? I feel like you didn't explain how you sold your company in the book, and I'm fascinated by that and why you still come into work persona company. So long ago, I mentioned the dirt thing we gotta bring that up. And then Finally I want to close out with why you have so many frigging or something you had so many basketball's in your house. Why I gotta talk about my second sponsor. It's a company called active campaign. You do Email marketing, but you guys use mail chimp from what I saw Brandon I should have brought up the competitions name. Whatever you use another Email provider. Let me tell you why you might wanna consider why you should consider active campaigns which over most Email providers. What they do granted, they let you put everyone on Email list, Email everybody, the exact same thing thing about active campaign was imagine you send everyone the same Email, and you discover that there's a handful of people who every time you send a link. To your next Facebook live. They click it. Why should you send them? Why should you send them the same thing? You sent everyone else. Meanwhile, they're handful of people who every time you say, I've got a new memorabilia, they click that you wanna tag, those two groups of people. And then if you have something that is just a Facebook live that's urgent or another like Instagram live that you're experimenting with or something else. People back to those original people who keep clicking your Facebook live in say, I'm doing this special thing on Instagram. You should come and see that and the people who are just into the collectibles and everytime Email about that. They click those you wanna treat them differently and say, here's this new thing that I'm offering just for you. Because if you were to go to the Facebook live people just want business advice for you. Try to talk to them about buying baseball's over and over they think you're selling them too hard, and it would feel a little too pushy, but the people who are into collectibles, they want it. They wanna know before anyone else. Anyway, what I'm saying is Brandon? Allows you to bucket people like that. Sorry rovers. Yeah. Super super simple to do. There's lots of software to do it. But it's way too complicated. They make it really easy. And if you are with the different Email provider, Brandon, I know you've got a team. I talked your team this super smart. They do they chat bots before. Most people even knew what they were. And I know that they could move you over. But I also know that they've got so many other things on their plate. Why should I bother? If you go to active campaign dot com slash mixture g you will see that. They will migrate you for free from your current Email provider. They will also let you just try it for free experiment with. It's you at you likes you what you don't like about it. If you decide to sign up. Sorry, we're gonna dry I see that down couple times right down the realm and say, wait, how do I get that extra migration so abroad? I think people take for granted. This is you have my Email address. Doesn't mean give warrants Email me anything you with the rock. Yeah. And sometimes hard you can't survey people because they're not gonna they're not gonna tell you the truth. What you wanna do is look for signals and what they're already doing what they're clicking on what videos on your website. They're watching all the way to the end. What things are they doing on your site beyond that beyond watching video? So if you go to active campaign dot com slash mix. Or did you can try for free? You're kind of a rich you're rich man right now, not kind of your very you don't even need this. But I'll tell you set him on this free. And I know that even people at your position pre sheet getting a free month service, then if us active campaign dot com slash they'll do to free one on one sessions with their experts to make sure that you learn the software go do it. And then come back get more feedback at more directions to the can prove. And as I said, remind Gration active campaign dot com slash Mickey active campaign dot com slash mixer g the Anki call you in a hey Steiner was seen your name all over your interacting with our people. Are you legit you go into their office? And you do the same. What else again, I'm telling circle in this. What else not intentionally until I finished reading the book that look at all the dogeared pages that I said, wait this one else keeps coming up. So what's the what else that you walk in there? Tell tell me about that meeting. If you remember I remember meeting I was yesterday and are trying to get it for about three or four months. And finally, somebody help me get that meeting, which is by the way, Geoghegan meeting thing about re trying to meet with new they may know that, you know, it's not who you know, what, you know. But what you know about who what someone that? I knew that. I knew it note that they help you get the meeting, and I went in there, and I was really nervous because they're gonna take my season tickets way. They been kind of on me because I was definitely in their space work a lot of players around the stadium. And I went I decided to go rhino agenda. I had nothing nothing. I went it was zero with open mind because I I don't wanna go away too. I didn't know what to do. And sure enough. We started talking and hit me. They just opened up fickle. The yes network feed their first network that a baseball team owned their own network. And I'm oh, my Omni com, which is a pretty big advertising agency conglomerate even a small companies big conglomerate, I did have a lot of friends at work his choice said miss it. You know, I know you probably don't think much credibility bombo by Omni becoming Omni all the adages it. Yeah. You can get John Wren on the phone. John ramsey. Oh, still is is plays first base, which I mentioned a baseball fan base. John restarts. Tickets. I don't need you call right now. But we may need to maybe meet them. Because maybe I'm comcan office was marriage is ING Jerry hope our station a little bit more, Greta made the connection, and I've found by keeping myself open minded clear, I found something that they needed back to the bagel back to the woman, I found the value proposition that they needed and then the conversation from probably being a fifteen minute meetings when our fifteen and at one point I said, look, I hope you if not on the money part of it. Your fans are getting fake stuff. I mean, twenty years now people are gonna wanna get game you stuff for or there. Andy betted, I can put a program in place that would solidify do authentication security of fans aren't gonna be cheated. So that's the most important thing. Our fans are the most important thing as a world we work on that. And then we could figure out his business round that we could come up without to off the races took me cheers ideal. And what was what was the eventual deal reinventing deal was creating Hanky Steiner, which again, the balls were. My mother always taught me, you know, if not you then who no one is ever put their name next to the ANC. He's thinking about the five brand. Yeah. Developing customers went to the biggest name the biggest brand. And I demanded that wouldn't be called Yankee collectibles. Either man because Yankee Stein, I wanna eat will billet gonna want everything the Enke's proposing for themselves. I want enough for my brand. And they gave it to me return. Very fortunate grateful to them for doing that. And it was on you to take their collectibles, and sell it and organize it and do it in a way that was classy authentic and maitre was communicated in a way that is the Anki brand is the end all brand the best brand all sports, and they wanna make sure treaty were that kind of integrity. And I made sure kind of things will you will you creating and selling for them on your when I do Yankee Steiner search on Google, basically end up back to Steiner sports dot com. That's good. Yeah. It seems like what I know started laughing at me. And then I say, well, I want to dig a base from the game. I want to get and delivered the someone in the seats. I want the Phoenix man to go and walk into the stadium and give it to somebody. That's never going to do that we want. We get nine besa game. We do that all the time. Now, what you wanted from them was. They give you the collectibles. You find a way to sell it on there with them all the game. Use the phone in the bullpen, which I've Mariana autograph. You saw that. The people have the form that Mariana gets in the bullpen to the outfield panels clinics on the fields were we had jeeter doing of Geeta to clinic on the field at Yankee Stadium. How great is that? And you can't do that. Unless you've got a partnership with them becomes more and more difficult without them. So that's the partnership that you had Yankee Stadium. I remember going there as a kid. I remember going there even as an adult they decided they were going to basically take that place apart. At what point did you come in and say, I I wanna partner up with you. I've got an idea for this crazy is if the two years two hundred page document is remember we did this deal with the ankles PA, and he'll be a lot of things involved with doing this deal in the last day before I signed that. I said Tim, by the way, you're back to the what else. If you ever should demolish the stadium put a new one because I'm not saying your gun. I have no idea. I definitely have to be a part of that. We have to put that in the deal and the sea rose said to me, Brandon. To put this deal. We can't do anything else with this deal. But you on my word that we're gonna do everything we can if we should ever break the stadium down with do something with you where I'll love about the ankles. Yeah. With that. And I asked him for store in if a new stadium when my own store in there. I don't want to cloud rate we vendors there. I wanted to my own and sure enough when they had the blueprint for the new stadium. He called me up through his office ranted or show, you two things show me where my store was. What's this? Is this news eating what you know. What this is. What is this is his we store is going to be? He was what do you think said? Well, it a small. It'd be nice was bigger. He took out the pencil race. It made a little bigger nine store the stadium juts out into the concourse. And then he said, I remember you told me that you wanted to break down those stating we respect that we're going to partner up with you. But we do have to buy from the state's going to be a little complicated. But and they and they lived up every bit of there were stay knew that the old stadium was the greatest may be stadium. Roll time. It needs to be broken down with respecting caring love, not just the money grab. And that's exactly what I did in the Enke's rose supported that partnership by doing all the neighbor me to do that. I see the Yankee Steiner collectibles. That's what it says on the sign in the store in Yankee Stadium. Your name right up there with the Anki inside relate products in the store up to that point have storage and store people on it was just a couple of items in the stadium. Now got my own store, which is pretty cool. And so when they broke down the stadium, you got everything I saw it. I love it in the book even say, by the way, we still have stuff purchase go, and I looked up. I'm sitting there everything that you say on stage or something in me that I have to go and see for myself. You say that the big campaign worked for you. As you gotta have balls. I went back, and I found old arm old spoleto's of the billboard. Because how people not gonna take pictures of a billboard? That says you gotta have balls. And then it's like gotta have balls. Forget what it was. Tonight, put your balls like those collectibles. I that brings me then to the dirt. So I love that in your book. You don't say, hey, I had this opinion. You said I was attending. National sports collector convention one year, I met a guy who is selling dirt. From the first Marlins game at Joe Robbie Stadium. Little bottles of dirt labeled appropriately for nine ninety nine each nine dollars ninety nine pennies, which is not the place where you live up go up market. So that gave you the thought talk about like how you took that idea and evolved it in grew it and grew up beyond this little nine ninety nine Chachi. First thing I tell people that if you're going to be in products and services business, you'd better not to quote, upset near Destin anybody that knew when I would go to a flea market or to a trade show. I will go to people that so much crap that I would buy you have to be curious you have to walk mall. You have to walk stores, I'm constantly walking mall. Looking for the next idea because it's not. That idea, but it's an idea that you may see transform. So when when I came home with this stuff from that, this this show, and was magazines all kinds of crap I said to myself brand you idiot, and I do have these conversations myself, my you are more. You bought dirt is only wrong with you. And as like you. That's maybe maybe something there and basically happened soon after the Konami went so bad. I started remember these product ideas coasters hot crystals clocks, we spray your he's at he's on a photo in his spray the dirt on their photos. We put a capsule dirt was something. I could good luck charm about that dirt. And started started with you saying look at coming from wrong, you notice, and I love this video that I saw somewhere on YouTube. When I was researching you where at the end of a game or even during the player would go down grab some Dir put it in their pocket. There's something about grabbing the dirt from the game. Instead said players are into this. This is an interesting product. A look at this. I actually see a little collectible the looks like anyway, I see it online in lots of different ways. So the first thing you sold was what for so you made a deal you said I wanna buy the dirt from the stadiums. Now, you've got this commitment to buy the dirt the north what you're zero three. It'd be kidding me. I got Ennals Dern authenticated, which we made. Sure Israel from that actress stadium within by. I think I decide don't fully remember from the book. But I think it was something like you have someone watch to make sure the dirt was actually coming in directly from the stadium properly. Okay. Until you saw that you had it. The first thing that you sold dirt. In was what was it these little bottles? It looked like spice bottles was his little capsules residual capsules that we attach onto the photos. We pitchers mound. Dirt we attach it to say CC Athey photo in that the place photos game user, and then the next thing we started doing was crystals coasters. I love I remember going to vodka company energy in companies saying could these coasters we logo on it from Yankee Stadium? You have dirty MARTINI until you're selling to businesses to and that's another part of your business. Interesting to me, you're not just selling to the individual guy who leads baseball. Sorry, three the premium businesses cool because there's a limit to what we can do. So when people by our premiums there. A little bit more expensive. But the unique the different than just getting pan or ruler or t shirt. Okay. And so you then moved onto dirt with businesses, and then talk a little bit about how you kept up selling in grow, not selling moving avenues, bats criminal. But all these different pans crystals clocks, hundreds of things you going starter sports icon of their products. But I was writing we'll know Brian Cashman, the thank of everything down the greatest champion the planet. A welcome. And I was just want to thank him, and I had my graphic design into a map of all the ballpark's. Figuring to be nice to hang in his office. Why not? And then I we have every state but will capsule dirt on there. And that's what we came up with the ballpark dirt's. And I realize that Escasany the caller was unique in every stadium. Not all dirt is creepy. And I got kind of crazy about the dirt. She had this beautiful ballpark piece. And he a thirty two different dials of will capsules of dirt. And I wrote on Bryant expert thing you do you have a little dirt on every team in your office. Cute little catch. You will say meanwhile, we started selling those five hundred. Piece while I crazy. So we figured out third proc Ressam for twenty nine thirty nine bucks. Which wasn't exactly what I really wanted to do. But how me being bad and was creative people kinda liked it. We we don't holes in bass put gamy irt for critical runs. So guy would hit a big home around. We carve the dirt into that. Now's another big upset. We get a premium on that. The ballpark maps was the defendant the numbers up red hot. It's the the fascinating part of your talk. At Joe's event was how you kept thinking we start off with one thing. And then we just keep evolving involving at the cases that the balls were in you said people are buying these expensive balls at putting it in these nine dollar plastic containers, how do we make it? So that we can charge more earn more money and also making more meaningful, and it's constant little things like shifting the quality of what's in it. The picture that's in the dirt on the bottom. Every little bit adds allows you to charge more are two things that I want to close out with. I think I covered everything I'm the commedia is your friend. If you just look at the truth of the situation, you're I idea is not your best idea. So don't let it says be deterrent more success and get to the truth of what you think what you felt what the customers they game. And you'd be good things happen. Looking all these I did a search say do a search on my side. You'll see all the different ways we sell their. I see it on your site. I'm Mecom why? When and why did you sell to to omnicompetent? Well, this is one of the few decisions. I made my wife didn't agree with me on were roast on take off a new that I was gonna eat a partner were radio to build this thing. Member thing I was building. No one can understand other station. And I knew that I was gonna eat dusters Bank or partner, and I thought was such a not traditional partner, the least likely partner, you'd never wanna think. Of course, they had hundreds of companies, not no real sports companies. And I thought it gave me access to companies that would never able to walk into because of these high profile NPR, a marketing agencies, and I thought that had the deep pockets helped me build and continue to be the best in category. They were big fans of investing category and constantly won the competition with the next. Best thing. I love that frothy. And I actually took less money affront to go with them than I had other offers from other companies, and it just came down in our forty and I felt like I was okay for the grind. But I don't wanna grind on the money anymore. Like, I I wanted to enjoy the second part of my children's lives having some well, not having the pressure about the Bank account getting loans getting money to supplement my inventory. And I thought this was a really high quality company, which it is that commit help me you things that never dreamt of doing which strip and some Brandon when you sold I'm guessing you get a percentage of profits or something because you're working like a madman. You not just at that event. The next morning seven AM Europe working said any working out said anyone wants to come out with me come do still selling within your book. You're still talking. What what you deal that allows you to keep doing this? It's you know, I I never really got to caught up in the money. And and that far as a reason why should dictate who you are. What you do? You are you. You are. And what you do. I like working, you know, I liked the grind I like making money. I mean, you get a percentage of profits or something what you deal with them. You still get a percentage of the profits. They give you profit sharing the stock options. There's a lot of different options away to to make it. I've made a lot of money. So the money is as as I get paid well, and I'm still creating and doing things, but I I managed my day very carefully time management's critical thing, and I'm doing a lot of things which is always the way I like operate. But I always make sure that the most important things must report saying, so my health is critical and always focus take your my family travel. My wife that never gets in the way. And then when I'm here, I try to kill him trying to everything I can't try to you know, I'm not gonna come in. And put my feet up this go home and go to the beach retire. I wanna kill it. I wanna I will still kill the competition or I can feel like little things, dude. I'm spending so much time like in your world one last story. But folks every time there's someone who I talked to who does ecommerce. I know the people are starting for the work for their company. Name and coupon codes, you say people are searching for it. Let's put it right at the top of our site. So that now when they searched Google's going to send them back to our site for our coupon codes enlightened by more stuff like stuff like that those little details. Someone doesn't care you notice until you, and I appreciate you notice in that. But I'd say the secrets my sauce was I'm a road. So we smart not that smart premise road. So we smart, but I know what I know, but to really be active. This was my sweet spot e commerce social media. So I hang out with a lot of seventeen eighteen ninety two roles are brought them into my fold. I meant to them and mentor me back we're up back and forth mentoring. And so this is they know about all these new apps, and they're so much once this than I am their Mina circle. Now, they're in my office every day. I'm hanging out with them play ball with them taking them the games. So I provide value for them. And I'm keeping close to sharp until. I thought it was gonna blow their minds. You got me on a call with them to talk about chat bots. I said I'm gonna blow their minds I'm going to show them that I know that they're on shop if I store, and then I'm gonna show them that there's one little chap that they could add that retarget s- people who didn't complete their now they were on it already had on the site. They knew the numbers are going to close out with one last. When you're good storyteller. Brandon. You're like a musician when people keep saying play this one song, I've got to just have on the record from my audience for me to have this recording. Forever of you looking at your house. You have a basketball court your house, you have an indoor full court after for who junkie. I love when you looked in. You saw how many basketballs you had? Well, in my office is a sinuses. Everyone has a story in which is story in a suit comes to my office. I asked him what story and a fortunately most people have a story. But it just ain't true. So one day, I'm working out. My basketball trainer. I take reform shots to try work. Once a week to work in the vascular trains to wanna play my friends might one-step ad. I can't shots. But I'm looking at it. And I've got a hundred basketballs, and I'm trying to figure out like why the hell do I have a hundred basketball's not five or six ball's shooting machine? Maybe balls on a hundred and I realize when I was a kid growing up. We talked about the stroll in the conversation or I was in. We never had a ball with a big deal. We wanna play we can never find a ball. And once in a while not even a ball that you can actually play without a bubble in it this that, and it was really it was really trouble something, you know, the fact that I wanted to play basketball play with and I look back, and I think why. Would have a hundred balls because in my delusion remind. I think I'm not gonna have a ball. I need to make sure have a backup for the backup for the backup. I never want to wake up and wanna play not have a good ball play with. And he's thinking about that. That's something happens fifty years ago, and I'm still carrying that for with an I ask people when I go and speak sometimes at a conference. What's the store you're carrying with such a trivial thing? Like the basketball saying, I'm trying with me magical, the other stuff carry with me from my childhood that now playing forward in my adulthood, and I asked people at the conference like, what's what are you carrying for your child that may be doesn't really make a lot of sense because having hundred basketball make a lot of sense is probably not hurting anybody's gonna get rid of the balls tomorrow. Although maybe I'm gonna donate a bunch from which I discussed my wife over the weekend. But at the end, what do you carry for from your childhood? Maybe doesn't make sense that may be one without story to rest, you can get more accurate story. When someone ask you what your story is. I love it. I had no idea. Also what you're going through. When you said, it wasn't until I read the book that I found out about your dad about how you knew about the situation growing up. I love biographies. This one is really good. Because you're good storyteller. With a point every story is interesting. 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Joe Jacoby Snubbed Again

The Kevin Sheehan Show

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Joe Jacoby Snubbed Again

"You want it you need it. It's what everyone's talking about the Kevin Sheehan show. Now here's Kevin. I'm here errands. This year. Ben Standing From athletics going to join us on the show today as well talk about the Jack Del. Rio and Scott Turner Conference call a get together Get togethers yesterday with the media. So we'll go through all of that. I just wanted to start real quickly. I want to talk some college basketball here for a little bit. But before we get to that you know the hall of fame yesterday. This is the centennial year of the National Football League. They're putting more people from the past into this year's hall of fame class. It's going to be a class of twenty thirteen of those are former players from way. Back in the day in former contributors as well Drew Pearson the longtime cowboys receiver. Didn't get into the hall of fame. He was very distraught over that You've probably seen some of the stories about that. I feel badly for him just like I felt badly for Joe. Jacobi Joe Jacobi is deserving of the hall of fame. Let me just say that we've talked about that many times I actually don't think drew Pearson is like one of these guys that has is to be in the hall of fame personally. He's the last player for that all decade team. Who isn't in it though? Is that true. Yeah from the nineteen seventies all decade team with branch. It might be the last offensive flirt like there is also the the last it was either last office layer last player who wasn't in the hall of fame I want to look that up. That's very interesting to me because I did. Did you know twenty minutes on on this on the radio on this morning. And you know Lynn Swan Drew Pearson are the first team receivers Harold Carmichael Paul Warfield Warfield second team receivers. You know I'm sorry but cliff. Branch should be. You know Included Harold Jackson should be included in that set. Seventy this from new East Greenwich Enrich Hill. The only eligible all decade offense defense his first teamers to not be in the hall of fame from the Seventies. It's Pearson Eighties. Everyone's in the hall of fame What about Jake? Jake is injected. Second or third. It's like a second or third team all tackle. Will you know All decade. I open it for the first teamers. Yes okay Yeah let me just see on the in the eighties team. The tech the first team to see this is. I'm sorry I didn't I actually didn't know this. I appreciate you bringing this up Jacoby as a second team all decade recipients For the eighties is a left attack. Along with Gary Zimmerman. The first team tackles or Mundos in covert covert got into the hall of fame yesterday. Jimbo covert should not be in the hall of fame before Joe Jacobi. This is what I was going to be. This was the purpose of starting this conversation restarting the show with this conversation into Joe Jacobi played first of all many more years than covert did beyond that their career sort of paralleled each other in the eighties. Jacoby had three all pro Nominal three three all pro nods covert had to Jacoby was in four pro bowls. Covert was in to Y- the Jacoby three was a part of three super bowl winning teams covert overt one covert team that won the super bowl was a defensive team. The eighty five bears Jacoby played on a team that was highlighted by his in Rusk. Graham Reamin Jeff Bostick etc hogs play during those three super bowl wins covert basically spent half of his career because he only had an eight year. Career watching Joe Jacobi playing the Goddamn Super Bowl. Okay J Jim Covert Jimbo. Covert does not deserve to be in the hall of fame before Joe Jacobi Obi that's number one number two is this the drew Pearson thing cliff. Branch was a player in the seventies. Who's not in the hall of fame on those great writers teams into the eighties to you? I'm cliff branch has better numbers than Drew Pearson. But beyond that forget about the numbers here for a moment if you watched and grew up with football in the seventies like I did I was a child of the seventies and that's when when I fell in love with the NFL cliff branch was a wide. Receiver that defenses had to game plan for he was the best deep threat in the game. Okay he he was a guy that when you played the raiders whether stabler was a quarterback or Plunkett was the quarterback or mark. Wilson was the quarterback. Whoever the quarterback was cliff branch number twenty one had to be game plan for Drew Pearson was a really good player in the seventies? I didn't think he was in the hall of fame and I do this all the time because I don't really have the the hall of fame memorized memorized. I don't but you know somebody brings up a player and says is that player in the hall of fame. I would've said before yesterday. I don't think drew Pearson's Hall of fame and I don't think drew Pearson is a hall of Famer Aamer. That's my that was my first reaction went back. Looked at the numbers really good player in the seventy s good receivers in the seventies branches and isn't in the hall of fame. And then and a guy from the seventies got in yesterday's part of this. You Know Centennial Group. Going in Harold Carmichael got into the hall of Fame Carmichael Six foot eight receiver for the Eagles. I mean Pat Hat Fisher owned him for much of his career. I didn't think of Harold Carmichael as a hall of Famer before yesterday. And I really don't think Harold Carmichael was a hall of fame kind of player Charlie Charlie Taylor even though his career ended in nineteen seventy five seventy six. He's the best receiver of the Sixties and Seventies in terms of the guys the of that decade. Harold Jackson was exceptional Swann. Stallworth obviously very good bullet knockoff. I mean come on best hands in the business in that decade you had guys like gene Washington and and in Ken Burrow get good receivers. John Gilliam You know just in thinking through I mean Pearson played on Cowboy Albouy teams. That were excellent. Man Tony Dorsett for half that decade. You know Billie Joe to pre though the other running backs Twain Thomas Calvin Hill. You Know Robert newhouse. You know great great defenses crate. Coaching Staff Clipper Scott in yesterday. I don't think Cliff Harris is as a hall of Famer. I don't know how they did this yesterday. And not an overlooked Joe Jacobi again. This is something that's hard to really determine for all all of us you know. Do you compare numbers. Do you compare sort of the qualitative what you remember watching them You know what their peers say. What coaches say? Hey you know I. It's a very subjective thing. I understand that a my biggest gripe is Jacoby not in Jimbo covert in because they're two careers arrears essentially paralleled. Each Other and Jacoby was a better player on a team that was much more offensive and relied very much on their offensive line in covert played on a team that was dominant defensively. The redskins and the bears played in the postseason three times in the eighties. The bears came in here the year before they won the Super Bowl and eighty four and beat the Redskins At RFK stadium in the divisional round they sacked thighs. Men like nine times in the game. the famous story about that game that the bears pass rush the bears defense in eighty four. was I mean you saw it coming. He was such a great defense in an eighty. Five was all time but it was great ninety four to But the famous story about that particular regular game is the Joe Gibbs who was absolutely Fearful of the shotgun because of the risk with the snap. I mean think about this. You know that's the nineteen eighties and and you know everybody's moving to the Shotgun Gibbs quarterbacks were all under center for every single snap will. They had apparently practice the shotgun leading into that playoff game because the bears defense was so menacing and it got out through a local reporter that the Redskins in practice were practising shotgun with Eisman and gibbs was irate and didn't run it in the game against the bears in nineteen in January of Nineteen Eighty the playoff game. Actually I think it was New Year's Eve. Nineteen Gene. Eighty four. They lost there was a big fake punt net. Game Walter Payton had a big game actually threw touchdown pass in that game. Believe that's the case I'm going to look up that the the That particular box score. See if I have that right under there was a huge fake punt in the game The redskins had won that division that year on the final week of the year against the cardinals at RFK they beat Roy Green and and stump Mitchell That that particular team Jim Hannifin team. That was really good with Saint Louis that year. Neil lomax was the quarterback. They beat them twenty. Nine twenty seven is the game art monk. I think. Set the record for a season number of catches in a season amongst set that record. I think in that game the season finale and then they played played the bears. Okay here it is December thirtieth or eight not New Year's Eve almost one day off. I'm twenty three to nineteen. Bears won that game and in that game You had yet walter. Payton three touchdown pass through A halfback option touchdown pass to Pat Dunsmore and Steve Fuller was the quarterback in that game and for the bears McMahon would be the quarterback the next year Walter Payton rushed for one hundred four yards in that game Immaculate see the fake punt. Let's go to the play by play but I'm pretty sure they had a huge fake punt in the game. I could be wrong about that. Maybe I'm just remember remembering the peyton play Let's see if they've got play by play this game they don't anyway I do remember that game for the most part not all of it Redskins were nine point favorites in that game and that was the beginning of the eighty five bears the eighty four bears. You saw it coming. You saw that. How great they were an thighs? Men Wasn't sacked nine times here. It is seven times in the game. The bears defense had seven saks in the game. Richard Dent had three of them. Hampton had to McMichael had one The way they were coming my point is is the bears were known for their great defense offense and winning with defense the redskins known for their running game and their offensive line and the redskins then went on after that game losing to the bears. There's to beat the bears twice in the postseason at soldier field The eighty six season featured the bears coming off the eighty five years. Here's the defending champs. A fourteen into season and the redskins went in there and beat them in the divisional round. Twenty seven to thirteen I think was the the final score that game And then in Walter Payton's final game. which was the game that Darryl Green had the punt return the following year went in there and beat those bears Twenty one to seventeen eighteen courtesy of the late third quarter. Darryl Green one of the most famous plays in franchise history punt return at soldier field in what would turn out to be Walter. Payton's final game mm-hmm and there is the iconic shot of the frigid weather at soldier field on the Redskins. You know having won the game and Walter Payton sitting on the bench. You know head head in hands Devastated knowing that that was his final game as an NFL player. A loss at home to the Redskins Jimbo covert lost His team's loss to the redskins twice beat him. Once redskins won three superbowls Jacoby accolades during that decade more than covert with the exception of this first team all decade designation with gear with Jacoby second team all decade designation ridiculous. The other part of this real quickly is just the process of you know a poor drew Pearson told you might be in. You might not you gotta sit there and watch what nearly as bad as what Jacoby had to do a few years ago. They flew him out for for that Super Bowl in San Francisco flew out there a put them into a hotel and told them you'll hear a knock on the door and you'll be told you know by God. The hand of God will touch touch you and say you're in the hall of Fame GonNa sit here yet. Await basically all day all night all day tomorrow and just wait for somebody to combine knock and knock never came. That's tormenting I I mean what what. What is that about stop? Okay put it all onto this Saturday night during super bowl weekend. It's a great little. You know our program on Saturday night before the Super Bowl and tell everybody the you know. Every year they're twenty five semi finalists. It gets narrowed down to fifteen finalists. Tell everybody no matter where you are. You don't have to be out here. We're we're we're not going to combine knock on your door to give you the the news. Just stay at home. Watch the program and find out if your name gets called. That's all all the whole process is is way too self important you know. This is a debate. We get into all the time his NFL fans in every single NFL fan base race. Basically has their list. Right has their list of players that should be in the hall of fame and you're angry about it and cowboy fans drew Pearson Clippers. I'm sure there are a couple of others drew Pearson didn't get in you. Know what maybe with that reaction now. He'll get next year and with the senior committee. You Know Joe Jacobi Number One on my list He is the player of of Redskins past that deserves to be in the hall of fame. He had a hall of fame career to me. It's not even close. He should be in all all of the other players that we talk about. Brian Mitchell Gary Clark Larry Brown Jerry. Smith are all hall of Fame Consideration Worthy. You know. There's a debate to be had. There is a discussion to be had but I don't consider them to be like. Oh my God it's been a grievous over the years that these players aren't in the hall of fame and I love Brian Mitchell's career. He still second all time on the all purpose list. I believe he is to Jerry Rice and the thing. I mentioned this this morning. And I've mentioned mentioned it in the past. The great thing about Brian Mitchell's career is that every big game he played in. He was clutch. He played his best in the Games most meaningful meaningful moments. I think back to the playoff game at Minnesota. The year after the Redskins won the Super Bowl. The Ninety two season January of ninety three. Brian has a forty forty five yard. Run on a fake punt. The Guy He ends up catching a touchdown pass. I believe in that game and then nearly pulls off the you know contributes to a stunning Stunning win the following week at candlestick against the forty niners. He played really well. He had the kickoff return in the playoff game against Tampa in two thousand. That gave the Redskins at thirteen. Nothing lead that that was as close as the redskins have been to. NFC championship Sunday since nineteen ninety one. They were really close. They had Tampa but beat. I mean pretty much in deep trouble. Thirteen nothing third quarter. After Mitchell's you know. One hundred yard kickoff return and they blew that lead lost fourteen to thirteen eighteen Tampa went on to Saint Louis the following week in loss to the greatest show on turf. The Rams Remember too that Brian Mitchell in his career in Philadelphia and some some of those playoff games had big returns. He was a clutch player. Do I consider Brian Mitchell to be An absolute You know ridiculous. Elissa grievous insulting miss with on the hall of fame. I don't I think he's certainly worth considering like Gary Gary Clark like Larry Brown on who the NFL MVP in Nineteen seventy-two like Jerry Smith a Joe Jacobi should be in the hall the hall of fame. Certainly yesterday reminded that all all of us of that. I don't think it's an anti redskin bias. I don't But I don't know what the deal is with Jake in Y Jimbo. Covert is in the hall of fame before before Joe Jacobi Anyway that's enough on that Real quickly Before we get to Ben Standing I wanted to mention Georgetown because I watched watched a little bit of this game. Last night they be Creighton. Eighty three to eighty. It's their second win over ranked team this year Creighton was ranked twenty fifth. Georgetown's sounds twelve and six two and three in the big east they are for Joellen. Hardee's latest bracket Tala G. They are in the field. They're twelve seed playing in that I four Against Against Virginia actually that's that's Lunardi latest bracket policy. That'd be kind of fun. Georgetown Virginia in the first four and a Tuesday or Wednesday night But they have a player that I was watching last night. First of all. They'RE GUARD MAC MC long he had he had the flu last night. Apparently multiple players were sick and had the flu last night but they won the game anyway but the player that I wanted to talk about. Is that seven footer Omer Yartsev he game last night one for twenty and thirteen points and I'm watching. Ching him like wow. He is skilled offensively for a seven. Footer he can stretch you out to behind the three point line and shoot. Shoot that three pointer. It's got a great jump shots. Let's get good feel around the basket both hands so I did a little research on him. Dino that he had a game in two thousand sixteen as an under under eighteen player in Turkey. He's from Turkey is a Turkish League under eighteen game where he scored ninety one and points and grabbed twenty eight rebounds. True Story I mean I don't know what the competition was like does does it matter. He had ninety one he had a wilt Chamberlain game and ninety one points. Twenty eight rebounds like a seventeen year old and an under eighteen team game in Turkey. Turkey's produces some pretty good basketball players. Ninety one points. Twenty eight rebounds it was a five star recruit went. NC State now is at Georgetown. He's good he's averaging sixteen and ten. I have no idea. He's good defender. He is very euro sort of issue in terms of his versatility. Offensively ability to to stretch you with with the jump shot and I thought he looked good around the basket last night. I haven't watched a lot of Georgetown but that kid was impressive and I know they've got other impressive players. You Know Patrick Right now. Essentially only got six players that he plays you know after all of that mass exit in December mutual parting of the ways with various players. He's basically got six player. That number zero Plays a little bit off the bench. his. Last name's Blair. I think it's driven Blair. He plays real minutes. Anybody else that gets into the game ain't gets in for like a couple of minutes just to spell somebody. It's actually a great position to be in if you're a coach where you don't have to worry about playing time for people that are complaining about playing time to have grab a limited bench. Now you're in trouble. If you get in foul trouble or somebody else gets injured or leaves. I like their team a little bit. I it's not going to be. It's not gonNA surprise me it all. They end up in the tournament. Georgetown this year The other thing Erin just about this college basketball season three more top. Ten teams went down last night. fourth-ranked fourth-ranked Auburn lost for the first time They lost Alabama on the road. Line stunk I mean stunk. Big Time It was Alabama plus one at home against the fourth ranked team in the country That was undefeated. One of two undefeated teams left Alabama. Blow him out Butler learn and Kentucky loss to. They were both top. Ten Teams Butler lost two Seton Hall. Who's ranked the night before that Duke Loss? To clemson Sunday it was eighth ranked Michigan State. St Losing by twenty nine at purdue. This season so far in college basketball has been I don't i. I can't remember member season in which in the first month of the season four number one teams loss. It's never happened. Evansville beat Kentucky. Stephen F. Austin beat Duke Michigan State Louisville both lost his as top ranked teams in the first month of the season. And just to tell you how hard it is to predict this season Michigan State Louisville were number one teams once you know a month month and a half ago and they're not even ranked in the top ten anymore. How about UNC? Being a top ten team and then being a legitimate bad team North Carolina is is in last place in the ACC last place. UCLA is in last place in the PAC. Twelve at one point in December Ohio state was killing people and they were number two in the country and after they got to that level after blowing out Villanova blowing out Kentucky Blue North Carolina we. We didn't know anything about North Carolina at the time didn't know how bad they were. After they got to number two in the country they lost five of their next six games by an average of eleven seven points per game. I mean who's good. I mean there's only one unbeaten team left in the Sports San Diego State yet. Good I like them. They haven't lost How they've got that that that point guard that's really good? Flynn Malachi Flynn is good. I Wa- I watched them one night late. 'cause I was involved in the game. They beat Creighton by thirty one in Iowa by ten in the Non Khan and the non conference there in the mountain west. Who the hell knows whether or not you know what we're seeing right now is real? Oh you know there are projected to cede right now. Gonzaga's really good. Here's the problem with Gonzaga San Diego State and we say this every year it's like after November and December Who What do we really know about them? You know because of the leagues they play in. I've mentioned you know what John Thompson told me. Many many years ago about November in December college basketball. He said there's nothing more irrelevant in college. Sports than November and December college basketball. It takes at least two two to three months for coaches to figure out what they have to play the way they think they can play to really figure everything out and and he's like you're not GonNa know anything until you get into the middle of conference play and towards the end of January February and into March so the the big wins they can zag and San Diego State had in November and December. Remember really. Don't mean much. They do on their resume for the tournament. But are we really learning anything about what they're going to be in March. I mean Gonzaga has been a major player. But you know Virginia. nja Virginia was ranked fifth one month ago. And we know what they lost from their title team. You know tied Jerome Hunter. You Know Kyle Guy But they were right fifth a month ago and now they've got three straight losses and they're on the bubble for the tournament right now Maryland. We had this conversation yesterday. Ranked as high as third in December. But right now on the verge of falling completely out of the top twenty five if they don't be purdue on Saturday you know I. It was a devastating loss. The other night but Maryland's essentially having having the same kind of season that all of the other perceived really good teams are having up and down one night. You're like WHOA. I thought they were much better than that. And then the next night is wow. They're really good. That's essentially were college. Basketball is I do think and I've watched Dayton a little bit with. Ob Top and he's probably among the two or three the best players. In the country. Anthony Grant Coaches Dayton. Remember when grant was at VCU We created VCU in the final four. Run they had and Shock is smart. Was the coach right. Chuck smart replaced Anthony Grant and took that team to the final four Anthony grant sort of started the ball rolling and then he went to Alabama and then he's then he's at a college coaching and he he's an assistant for Oklahoma City in the NBA. And now he's back at Dayton and they're they're good team in. Ob Top is a really good player But I have no idea. I don't think anybody can figure this thing out right now. Who Do you think is really good? Who Do you think right? Now is an absolute lock for the final four. I mean no one's a lot for the final who strongly favoured Duke I think is the best team in the country right now despite their losses they have two of the weirdest losses of the year. But I think overall Duke Ducas the best team in the car I thought so before the other night and the other nights and I can change my mind that much. But you're right. They actually really looked good in their couple of games leading up to the other night. Yeah I think that they are are the most dynamic I think they are the best team and again. We're we're basically two shots away from them. Being undefeated I think actually think Dayton is a very very good team Kansas and Baylor good but again. They're both weird. They're taking a little bit of weird losses but to your point yeah. There's not a team that I probably won't be getting any futures for the NCAA tournament because the NCAA tournament. I feel is going to be as wild as it ever. I You know as mentioned I think Dayton Dayton in top and have a really good chance because he's a true great player is going to be very high draft pick in June in the NBA draft. I think there are very interesting team team to watch. I sort of agree with you and Duke. The whole Baylor thing every year. I just think Scott drew somehow bill. You know blow it somebody. They're good though. They went to Kansas the other night in real quickly. Gonzaga is the number one team in the country. Right now they play fifteen and three Santa Clara in their conference tonight. Santa Clara really good fifteen and three not bad that that's a pretty good pretty damn good record their twenty point. Underdog tonight to Gonzaga. That's the problem with that league As we know All right Quick word about my stamps. Dot Com Let's face it and most New Year's resolutions are difficult to keep. I think of already blown mine here on January sixteenth. You want to get more exercise. You WanNa eat well you WANNA cut back on certain things you want to save more money. Well I've got a resolution that's very easy to keep especially if you are small business like ours stop wasting time going to the post office. YOU STAMPS DOT com instead with stamps. Dot Com. You can do anything you the post office right from your computer. PLUS STAMPS DOT com gives you something you can't even get at the post office. Bid Big discounts huge discounts on postage. It brings stamps. 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Big Dude I think he's got some skill man and I think he's got a really highly skilled and they've got this short bench and I know you follow college basketball a lot. I haven't watched a lot of Georgetown but right there right now. In Lunardi latest bracket policies at twelve CD. Think that they get through the big east schedule with a resume at the end of it that that says there are tournament Tamer. Not I mean I think you know. I think it's all going to come down to this point. And they the seven guys stay healthy and like it almost. It seems like it's almost not even have been possible. So far the first couple of games of the A big play a Mac McClellan either. Their top scorer missed the game with an injury yesterday. Be Creighton top twenty five team but in doing so they did it with McLaughlin and there other guards around dealing with the flu blue like Alan. I basically like almost like pat or something at the end of the game was there was a game away so they literally are a hangnail away from never for having negative debts. That's the only problem but from like a pure resumes and point like after all the chaos went on where where people were leaving the program they rip off Big Wins Oklahoma Glaucoma State SMU's Syracuse. What have you and doing that? Put them in a position where as long as they go. You know general five hundred in the big east. I think they get in the big East frigging the loaded. Donald even who the worst team in the conference is so between the fact that the conference is is is deep and Italy only seven guys and when I say seven I mean that's that's not even you know the one four word that one of the two of of the seven or centers are looking at play together so it's kind of limited. But they do you know that they've done enough. I think they could get in. They have to can't afford anymore. You know it's really funny any like if you talk to coaches They'll tell you God you know. Sometimes I wish I just had seven guys. You know that I that I played too solid guys off the bench of College Basketball Forty minute game. Five under four every four minutes. You eight o'clock stopping for you know a two minute commercial break It's a if you stay healthy and you stay out of foul trouble. It's actually a lot easier than having ten guys that you play. I mean we saw that with Maryland early in the in the year when the twins were there like he had different starting lineup every night he was he he had more of a challenge in getting guys that he promised playing time in the game than dealing with the opponent in so I I actually in some ways I bet you a lot of coaches envy Patrick Situation Right now. Now you don't want six and they only really. He played Blair for significant minutes off the bench. You'd love to have seven or two or three off the bench that you can rely on But I- every time I watched them and I I watched last night. I'm impressed with With them I think they're well coached. I think he's doing a really good job. I think they play smart most of the time. You're right about the big east. Man It is. I mean depaul remember early in November December. They were undefeated you know they. They had a couple of decent wins. They won a couple of games. There were big ten teams. If I recall I think they beat Iowa among others. They haven't even one in the big east yet. They're they're dead last in the big east. It's a good league top to bottom. It's GonNa be tough but you know if they get to five hundred what are they play eighteen eighteen conference. I think that's right. Yeah could they get to five hundred with you know and I know. Oklahoma state doesn't look as good Texas Oklahoma State SMU Syracuse and my forgetting. Anybody they got blown out by by Penn State. I remember that and they nearly nearly beat Duke. I mean they had a chance to Turkey duke a matter of fact that they had no bad losses the three losses were two teams that were in Ken. Um Top one hundred including Duke They opened big east play with a loss at Providence. which we'll see what that looks like but you know on the road and the conference play and no MC lungs you know look at specific people will give them a pass so yeah I mean it's it's it's quite remarkable What they've been able to do you mentioned you're saving the the big man in the middle? I mean he's incredibly Polish from a worst case for him play ten fifteen years in Europe and and kill it when he's done collar and he's got a shot at the NBA and they have awesome pieces. But like I said they are. Just it's one thing the only go like six or seven and other things you literally when you have to go to eight hundred phone walk on and that's basically where there it'll be a challenge but You know so far so good but my my biggest take was up until this up until the moment where these kids. All you know left the program for whatever the reason I don't think anyone could say definitively whether Patrick Ewing good coach I don't mean recruiter I mean like an actual tactician. He's had now put that. He's had to showcase that side of his game and you have to give him credit. They've done a good job. I mean you know. The kept him focused and These are things that are not choice that the all you can do is almost. We'll strategize the game this or ended. And he's done a good job. Yay You're seven the seven footer. If you haven't seen him People out there was him. He's he's going to be drafted in. I mean it may be a second round pick that guy I I. I've not looked at a mock draft in a couple of weeks. I've I've watched him. Maybe twice this year. He is to skilled for a seven footer. Not to get a look. He's GonNa he. I would be shocked if that dude unless there's something wrong with them isn't picked in the NBA. He drafted June. You know it's just a matter of. He's looking more of a traditional old school. You know. Interior Center game has sort of gone away from that. He's not much of a shot blocker and and I don't really know if you can defend you know players on the perimeter that well you know so it seemed like that that could potentially limit him. It's more of the evolution of a game than it is the got but Yeah no he. We were seeing the Mo.. We're seeing the mocks. I mean you do mocks for a living is he. Being mocked as a first rounder. A second round. I haven't looked did any recently. I honestly haven't been looking at the NBA One. I mean I'll I figure I'll spend a lotta time when we get to the wizards down the line but But I mean I. I don't think I was viewing him being picked at least in the first and all you know if it's a second I think is possible but You know like I said I think it's just a matter of did. Does the team views him as a viable player. You know when you're doing pick and rolls and he's got our guys up on the perimeter and he's not a major or shopping protector. He definitely very skilled offensively. And certainly you know from what I've heard teams would would would wanNA take a look at him for Sir at Ben Standing on twitter later he writes for the athletic subscribe. Like I did to the athletic seeking read Ben He's always all over the redskins. He's doing a phenomenal job covering Them We'll get to them in a moment but just sticking with college hoops for one more minute. Aaron and I had the conversation about how up and down. This season's been like you've had last night. Three more top. Ten teams lost Duke loss night before Michigan State went to purdue and lost by thirty twenty nine to be exact It's just a crazy a year and you know we've had conversations here recently about Maryland in the loss. They had the other night at Wisconsin which is not a bad loss. The way it happened was very frustrating. And of course the Maryland fan base the passionate fan base starts to go nuts. Like they do. Everybody's gotta be fired And that's that's a debate about mark turgeon which we we you can have briefly. We did it yesterday on the show but Who's good you follow this sport? I follow this sport. Aaron follows this sport. Who's really good like I mean we've seen so how many top teams up and down bad losses great wins? Who Do you think's really legitimate? And it has a chance to make a final four run so I mean I'll be honest because of the redskins chaos watching not just say that my basic take and I've I've talked to people you know around around the NBA and some other people in my lifetime. I think this is the worst year of college basketball that I can recall because from the sampling of I I. I can't point to any team that that would then I would say well. That team looks fantastic. And there's not even forget like as I on Williamson level interesting player. There's not even like even like trae young type guy like I. I don't even know what I'm watching. So you know you're watching the schools dukes on I get what that means Maryland. Obviously and so on but like. It's a bizarre year. I I don't really know what this means to that. And you I mean I'm not that big on parody sports I I like I. I'm not saying I need a dominant. It seems to win all the time but I liked the dominant team to exist. So you know what you're aiming at but this is a year where in college basketball all kinds of teams. I think could make a real run. A If you know we're we're talking about having a upperclassman the back court and that type of thing but you know in college basketball these days whatever you have if you have enough pieces to make it work I mean look even told me. Georgetown made a deep run. That which is borderline insane. Because I said they only have seven is and you know they haven't been anywhere close to to the NCAA tournament for years. But that wouldn't that wouldn't stunned me either. I this is a an incredibly bizarre year. I'm sure Duke will be in the mix to get to the end Gonzaga until but what. This is not a year where I'm looking at going. Wow amazing dominant teams if we did a bracket today I. I don't know if I'd have one seat in there. Yeah I mean I think that you know last year was actually a standout year for College Basketball Because of Zion Williamson and the excitement over him and do you and you know it manifested itself into a great tournament. I mean we had great memorable games. Do lost in the elite in the elite eight right here Michigan State and a great basketball game. And then you had you know purdue. Virginia in the elite eight. You had the Virginia. The final four games were incredible incredible last year including the national championship game which went to overtime in Virginia beating in Texas tech which nobody had. I think it's GonNa come down to what it always comes down down to in a year like this and you may be right. It may be the worst year in a long time. I think it's getting compared a little bit too last year. But it'll just come down to match ups in somebody to one to two teams. You know South Carolina from a couple years ago Texas tech from last year even though we knew Texas tech was really good last year. But it's GONNA come down to you know two to the three teams. You're not expecting the final four last year. Let's see if we can remember Auburn in Texas Tech. Were both in the final four with Virginia and no one was really expecting Auburn. Auburn to be there obviously and then Michigan State. Was the other team right because Michigan State beat Duke in the elite eight And then Michigan State Will Texas Tech. You know handled Michigan instate easily in the final four in Virginia won a really tight game. against a Auburn in the final four. I think that's what it was I. We're getting to the point where we can't remember things that happened like an hour ago. I think that's what happened last year. I do remember the Virginia Purdue Game Gain the Carson Edwards game. That was the game of the tournament last year right. I think he was right and I was. I was at the Duke Michigan the Michigan State Game Court side and and there and you know it was a rare time. I think what was actually rooting for Duke to win. And because I just wanted to keep playing especially now that he hasn't played since But yeah look I mean I don't WanNa be like the old. The the old man saying college basketball was better back in my day but the reality is I think it was. There's all kinds of reasons why college basketball is sort of faded among them the whole one and done on situation. There's just you know the the you know to talk about this. There's no connected story storylines from year to year anymore. I don't even know who you are. The Klay doesn't general seems like it's down but this is particularly bizarre year. We don't even have teams at the top who you know you could definitively say he's been held look for the year. Where rutgers is good I mean what else can I say I mean rutgers? Paul aren't bad. That is nuts that that that never happens and yet you know hell records. I mean I think I saw their trending that they'd make the tournament right now. They're a good team. There's they're in second in the big ten right now right so I mean that that that right there says just how crazy this whole situation is but You know I think there is a difference. Between if you get the march and we're talking about games and go to the BUZZER. That's not the same name me that's exciting but that's not the same good so right now. We're at the point of you know where I will say I'm not trying to have You know we want people to you know. Give a crap about college basketball because you've got to talk about important but I'm just thinking is this. I don't know right right now for me. It's sort of a spot right. Yeah weird spot. It'll title per usual. We'll get to march and everybody'll get their brackets and they'll get excited about it last year. Really in terms of the last you know ten years was was the exception where people were into it. You know before the tournament started and that was really because it had a perceived superstar player in Zion Williamson. I'm right Talking to Ben Standing from the from the athletic What stood out from the two conference calls yesterday with the Redskins coordinators? Well I I think the one thing we we started with was Scott Turner and then we got to del Rio and You know first of all when you you know. It's a start with with Ron Rivera. Compared to Jay Gruden it feels like it's a very. I'm not talking about trading to win but totally. It feels very different Rivera. Got This military background. He's a former player. defensive-minded guy he's you can just tell with the way he talks things have more regimented and tougher. And then you tack on Jack Del Rio well. He answered his questions. You know these were. They didn't SPILL STATE SECRETS TO I. Don't know if they said anything particularly enlightening but the way he spoke spoke he spoke with a level of intensity where I was waiting for him to tell me to do push ups if he didn't like my question He was very He was very on his game. No nonsense and you can tell like that's how it's going to be For this team I figured especially on that side of the ball. I think any you know the idea of a club. J. A situation I think we're we're over As we heard throughout the last few years in terms of training camp or practices and things like that so I think from that perspective that that that was my biggest Take away you know beyond that. I mean look. I think they're all in the process of trying to figure out what the heck they have. you know. Both in terms of the You know the building try and understand that place but also the you know the guys on on the roster. I was having. It's a little easier for del Rio knowing you've got the offensive line Monta Atlanta Collins. He's got more things to work with. Scott Turner obviously the big thing is is Wayne Haskins. You know he said got all the right things about him so far You know in terms of trying to figure out You know in terms of you know a guy who they carolina a scattered way and Haskins last year. They viewed him as a first round pick. They ended up taking a quarterback in the third round. So I don't know maybe they would have been made they would've taken has sixteen my dad but but Redskins got a one st before. So you know I think by and large. I'm not trying to make any big sweeping takeaways out this these initial kind of conversations Like I said the biggest thing for me was real is Is No joke. He's up intense and I think that's you know. I think that's a good thing for this team. They I need if there's any one thing I wasn't necessarily thrilled with the Bill Callahan Arab say but the one takeaway from it even some of the players. I think agreed was that they needed more disciplined. They needed more Intensity and I think these guys loving supply that I mean let's not forget Greg Muskie told us when he was named defensive coordinator later that he was going to build a defense that cracks skulls and struck iron. You know he's like were cracking skulls going downhill and we're going to strike iron. I mean all of this right now. On January fifteenth January sixteenth means nothing. Del Rio's got a resume. I still view. It's funny how del Rio sort of with respect to the fan base in you know my interaction with different fans. Your interaction with different fans. People are so excited about Jack Del. Rio It's Ron Ron Rivera. Who I'm excited about Ron? Rivera is a defensive minded head coach. It's GONNA be. The defense is going to be reflected in what he he wants. You know And he would he pick del Rio in part because he knew del Rio would agree with his vision. He wasn't looking for a new defensive decision. Right yeah absolutely I mean. At the end of the day I always think people get too worked up over assistance. I mean this is even the thing. Like when you make the comment about whatever Muskie off-key said or didn't say he isn't the overall tone center. It's up to the head coach to to to do that. And you know especially if it's the head coach is on the same side of the ball in this case with Rivera River and really you know no matter what we're we're talking a lot about We're going to have a collaboration and all that okay. It's only collaboration to a point. At the end of the he's not gonna let everything veer off into ways he doesn't want it to go. He obviously picked You know he he. The idea of having another head coach on the roster I believe is appealing to him out former head coach and del Rio's to turns there so that's part of it beyond the defense but Yeah up so he. He's own del Rio long time. I'm sure he respects worked at the end of the day. Rivera's the one who's GONNA leave. Leave these guys and and sort of determine how nothing having had input sure but yeah it's all about Rivera For the most part back lesson Turn to Scott Turner's Answers here in a moment but a sticking with the del Rio here for a moment there a couple of things that were interesting to me one you know he talked about. Hey where are we declared already declared that. We're going to be a four three for let's for us. It's about having our defensive. Linemen be penetrative and disruptive having a guy like von Miller or guy like Khalil Mack who were Premier Pass rushers assures they put a lot of pressure on the offense and helped the defense and then he said I'm specifically about chase young. You know it talked about how you know. It's too premature mature to start talking about players. You got look at a learner own players. I we gotTA look at Free Agency ETC Having von Miller in Khalil Mack can make you look really good as defensive offensive coordinator. Do you think that he you know was sort of indicating there. I don't think he was talking about Montas Sweat. He could have been and maybe he'll view him that way away but If Chase young is there at number two you're GONNA mock it out here soon enough but my sense of it is that the redskins skins are probably GonNa take a player that will be evaluated at a level that we haven't seen pass a pass rusher evaluated at A. Longtime. Yeah I mean on the surface it would seem if if the chase young hype remains where it is where. I've heard todd mcshay. You know say have good of the both brothers. Are Dave young better. Yeah I mean so that that right there says says a lot. It's hard to fathom how they wouldn't take this guy you know putting putting you know ignore Ryan Kerrigan situation for minute because you know rank air going one way or the other probably won't be here beyond one more year so you can take young and you move into the four three chase more four three guy and so on My only thing on all this is no matter what we all think. We have no idea what Ron Rivera really wants to do. For All we know he's Kinda guy that wants fifteen and every Because he thinks that's the best way build a team or he decides You know that it is chase young and and he wants to be aggressive E In in other in other ways or maybe you know who knows I mean maybe they look at it and decide you know what I in twenty twenty guys like Isiah. They assimilated a sort of hybrid linebacker from Clemson. That's an element that gives us a unique unique element defensive. I'm not saying any of that. It's going to happen. I'm just saying plus we also little miss you know if if two is healthy and he's sounds like he'll be ready to start showing off his wares sometime in March and they have the draft. You know some team decides. Hey I I need this guy. And if the if they think they have to go all the way ahead of even the lions at three. I don't know if that's true. But do and somebody comes to you with a godfather offer. You have to consider it so you know I think by all accounts Casey obvious call and and you know you. Can you know almost feel comfortable. They'll find your face young REDSKINS JERSEY. But I'm just saying thanks. We have a new coach. He's a new position house. Mrs Now running the Front Office at this point from a personnel standpoint. So I you know I'm not going to presume any think I think they're claiming they're not presenting anything so I think right now I keep I. I consider everything but changed the overwhelming likely scenario for one other thing on Del L. Rios answers. Yesterday I've loved you know every time I've heard from him including the sit down with Larry Redskin nation and then yesterday ninety eight ninety nine percent of it I've loved but there's one one part of it and you're listening to it so you know what the tone was I I only read it That just made me think for a moment you know what don't talk about the past. He referred to The lack of communication defensively on last year's team and he said quote All you have to do is watch the tape when you're watching watching the tape. There countless examples of right before the snap were players are not in a good position. Knees bent focused on the offense. They're kind of turned to each other looking around. Like what are we doing are questioning. You can see them asking each other. What's going on the communication the urgency in getting to the line the urgency in getting calls and communicating to each other? There was an issue there now where it came from. It doesn't really matter like blaming. Who is it you WANNA blame players? You want to blame coaches. That doesn't matter to me for me. It's about what we're going what we're going to be. Um We're going to set our minds on being how we're going to approach it Now so I. I like a lot of his answers I he. Also referenced Ernst About the potential defensively. So obviously you can be better. They were thirty second third down. Defense thirty second yards allowed thirty second and things in towards the bottom of the league. Lean a lot of things actually. They were not thirty second yards allowed. They were nineteenth in the NFL. In yards allowed. I mean that's a bogus. You know statistical measurement anyway in my view third down defense dead last in the league. One of the worst third down defenses. We've seen in recent years Here here's my point. You start talking about and in start implying that the coaching wasn't very good last year the first time. We see Landon Collins waving his arms around and being confused in a game you know in week five against Against the forty niners in they get lit up. You know you come back to these kinds of things. I guess you are on the call. Did you sense that that it was a direct shot at the staff last year. So it's interesting. Obviously this is our first offering. I interact actually him and vice versa and a couple of direct question for you. That's about what are you thinking about chase young and some other specific things and he flat out said look. I'm not gonNa tell you got squat. I'm not going to get you know early in the process anyway. But don't expect me to be the guy spilling secrets on what I think and all that but there were a couple of times when you ask questions including this one where he was asked about the communication clearly he was triggered to give a more detailed answer so this is something that I obviously. He's even you know whatever tapis and watching whatever thoughts are he wasn't. ESPN analyst is here so he was. You know these paying attention to the league. So I don't know how much watching the redskins per se but I you know I'm sure somewhat somewhat That that he clearly thought it was an issue so I thought that was interesting just from that perspective but that was something that triggered him or other things he was more cautious. I guess you you know pass. I'M NOT GONNA NOT GONNA go there so you know stood out to him You know I suspect for hitting the. He hasn't been that he's been out of the coach and for two years. I'm sure he has already to go. And he's got to wait a while the opportunity to have a conversation. I suspect just with us. I was probably something that got his Houston at least a couple of different topics this being one of them so I'm sure he's excited to give you know to get back out there at some point with these new players and try to figure what to do and you know. I'm sure all these guys think say I have all solutions. Obviously right so you know I I get looking in this case. I don't think it's long regardless of whatever happens to you in the future. We obviously saw so many issues with defense. You know the the last couple of years and communication being one of them so it's not like he was saying something that we're all all like weight loss of course what he what he was saying. We're all of course nodding our heads saying yeah. Of course it was terrible in the community. I mean how many times on Monday did we say. Oh my God. Did you see before that play. They're completely confused. And I was told during the season and talked about it a little bit on the radio show and podcast that you know Manetzky key system was too complex there too many calls. It was confusing. Everybody and there was a request. You know at times to be much more simplified And when they were a little bit more simplified they they were more effective and these are the things. I'm sure del Rio's mentioning I just my preference would be you know when asked about last year's there's team just say you know we're looking at tape. We're looking players Got To get better wasn't very good last year. But you know there's no there's no it's not a given that we're going going to be any better next year we gotta work at it. You know. Here's what happens to even the best of people when they come into Ashbourne when they come into Redskins Park. There's this sense in the past of love. Oh my God we gotta start. You know promising big here. We sell tickets. We got a market this team. We had a terrible year last year and the year before and the year before that that. And let's start talking about our top five defense people get wrapped up in this thing. I don't even know how it happens. Like it's the culture of you know as I've always always called it over promising and under delivering and God. I just hope that re these people don't get caught up in it and I don't think they will they're professionals. They've been real places they've they've won I just I that was the only thing from either press conference that I was just like you know I just wish he wouldn't you know sort of throw the previous coaching staff under the bus until he's done done something here that's all. Yeah and I would say that in terms of Rivera like he comes across very practical but obviously you know. Oh look there's things that need to be You know fixed the Redskins that neither the new coach where reason but he also got hit you know insult he goes. Let go for for for reasoning. I don't I think he's excited to go to the next place. And you know you feel like an Andy Reid you know. We're Ooh the wants from Philly to Kansas City. And you know you learn from these experiences because obviously the you know the best example ever you know on what they failed in Cleveland but it didn't workout and then he goes to the plays of which isn't to say you know we're the next ballot check or or even eighty read. It's just say I think you know you get the opportunity to learn from your mistakes. Because he doesn't have he gets a put his new whatever lessons learned into play quickly and he does seem like I said it'd be more practical. even Keel to some degree. So I I think he's he seems again. That's the tone setter. He seems to set a reasonable. Take on that front and you know. I think he's really going to try to to build the situation up. You know. I think he understands like I'm not knocking Jay but I think that you know one of the criticisms. Jay was the practices. You know the little things. Did they focus on that. I think Rivera like you always heard about like John. Wooden would teach the guys that tie their shoelaces of the sort of just sort. Take them all the way back to the basic fundamentals. I don't know if we're going to that extreme. But that's more of the guy I would imagine who's taking these guys all the way back to the bits of the true basics and build them up and You know because he needs them understand. We're going to do things a certain way. And you know you guys aren't all that but we're GONNA figure this out together and we'll do it one step at a time. I mean that's it's my gut too I mean I I I definitely am optimistic right now. Much more so than I've been in recent years we're talking to Ben Standing. Let's talk about Scott Turner first of all you know. It's interesting to me in listening to him. Talk about growing up here with his father is the head coach here for seven years and he was eleven years old. When north? Got The job. Here seventeen you know in a senior in high school when North got fired so this was really much of his formative years. You know as as a human being were I spent here in. His memories actually are fun of this area and he's excited to come back and he's got friends here What did we learn a about out the kind of offense Scott Turner is going to you know design and then call and then be What they think of Dwayne Haskins what he thinks of Dwayne Haskins? While I mean I think you know I think he talked about. I don't think he really like He. You know the the learning from his dad who learned from the air coryell system going all the way back until such an ink ancient terminator. I've heard that reason days like wait. What El- what what's going on but You know I I think he's trying to emphasize less system or focus on. What do I have and how do I make that work? We'll see if that ultimately hold out that's always been a big bugaboo to me when you have people like spurrier You know come come in and add my precious system and then you. Don't you know you you build you built for the players you make the players fit the system and I often think that's a problem so you know I. I think he's trying into figure that out. I mean I think realistically while obviously you know. The Carolina play the Redskins. Last year's they had some sense You know just from that experience of what this is about but they really are trying to understand what are the having offensively but there are so many moving pieces. I don't really even think Scott Turner can tell you anything. I mean if we if we realistically sit here right now. One of the Redskins have offense. You have Terry maclaurin And I I mean you know Ah yes technically got Adrian Peterson. But who knows how. That's GONNA play out there. You guys no idea what to make them a guy who's been on. I R three times in two years. Both of your guards are in free agency you see. We don't know if Trent Williams we'll be back Negative tight end last year. The they've got to address that spot. So I don't even know Scott Turner kid say findlay Findley. What's going to happen? But he did talk about trying to build a system around the the the player the players more than the other way around. So you know I in terms of Haskins. Yeah I mean he is so funny. We spent so much time last year debating. Should the redskins be Dwayne Haskins. More and the the cantor that Jay Gruden made himself as well. He's not ready. He's not experienced and people would didn't like that. I personally thought that reason. Would that mean reasonable sense. He didn't look like he was ready. Ready to me. He's only played started one-season in college but people are going to hear that okay. Fine he eventually got in there. Got Turner comes in and says well. The biggest thing would have consist. He's an experience and he needs to You know look you know gain more. And he's just not do that through wraps in practice and things like that so the new guy comes in recognizes immediately. The Queen Haskins is You know he's not fully formed which. I don't think anybody was suggesting but you know it's funny that we we spent so much time last year debating whether this kid should be thrown going in there which I said no and I think that was I think it was what they did. I think they're reasonable way to go. Especially once the season on sold to the way that they I think the biggest question what is what is going to do. Is he going to be the guy. That's here every day. During the off season working with guys putting in that time the effort be the leader things like that. I think that's part of this equation. That goes we can talk about the coach. And all we want between has got to meet that head on and take a lotta the ownership on himself. You know you and I I had the conversation while it was happening After it was happening. You're stubborn you're stubborn on this haskins thing And you know it because is there would have been at look. I'm not saying that it. It's not possible that in week three or week four week five he really league couldn't do it. You Know I. I would suggest that. There's a possibility that he was much less prepared. Then versus the Buffalo Game. In Week you can nine or ten. Whatever that was for his first start with that said I don't think it would have damaged him You know for you know for career along For his career had he started those games and I think by the time you got to the back half of the schedule you know the giant game the Philadelphia game where he really he played. Well may have been you know may have been happening against the jets in the lions instead. You know a few weeks earlier I the there's not I don't no no I I I think we go ahead. What would what the hell it's funny earlier? You said I think it it re referencing that you and are getting old. We don't remember what happened yesterday. I don't remember I now that you said I remember that you and I've had this conversation wouldn't have come on your podcast and just said like all that like other people but I. I can't remember who I know you and I had the conversation either on the radio or the pancakes and I and I said to you and it was probably you know before the Miami Gamer humor. And I'm like come on. I mean there Oh and four zero and five. This is ridiculous this dude. See the one thing in. This is the way I felt my gut feeling going going back to training. Camp is if I had seen a guy that looked completely overwhelmed and thought that you know he had a psyche key. That was fragile. I would've been with you but I saw a guy even in the pre season that had a lot of a lot of confidence maybe wasn't earned or deserved deserved. But he's one of those dudes and we've all known them if you know if you participated in sports at any level you know. The Guy that walks into the gym or walks sat on the field and thinks he's the best player even if he isn't and because of that that level of confidence. You're never really going to you know you're never gonNA really rattled. Battled guy so I just felt you know with him in his personality or at least meet projecting what his personality was that they were going to be. Okay playing him even if he he didn't know the whole playbook and if you recall part of my argument at the time and you probably don't recall part of my argument at the time was come up with a playbook that works for him coach his level right now but get him the hell out there so we can see what he has and you know. Remember this debate you know could have if Callahan and hadn't been named head coach or if case keenum hung in there and they had beaten you know Minnesota or San Francisco or they'd won another game along the away you know. Maybe if case keenum doesn't even get that concussion in the Minnesota game it may not have been for another three or four weeks that we have seen them. Yeah Yeah I mean you know look obviously there were so many variables including gruden fighting for his life. And you know realistically even until the very end you'll case keenum gave you a better chance to win. That game bent than Haskins rookie. which is a separate issue? Whether has I don't even think that's true after watching both of them. I don't I think once we got to Haskins Gins third start fourth start that he actually gave him the best chance to win. Plus by the last few starts he definitely look significantly better than he did. Did early on I you know I think I mean again. We talked about this before but the part of the part of the situation like in the debate of whether it's getting first team reps and why not. Why isn't me you know in talking to people in the building like the sense I had on some level was look? He can get good work playing on the scout team. He has to put in the work and I think there was a sense. He wasn't maybe focused about when when when Gruden's room into the the giants game and everybody's like what is happening here. This is crazy. Why would you just throw this kid in I whether Jay did it intentionally for this reason or not I you know I did have the sense later from people later in the wake up call for Haskins so recognize? Okay okay. I don't know everything quite yet. Let me let me focus. When he didn't get the opportunity to start for real he? He was better prepared on on all fronts to to sort of deal with it and eventually he did as we said he looked much better. Last starts in some of those earlier adding so you know it's it's it's a tough thing overall game they'll roll situation. It was such a mass because of the fact that you had to head coach was on the verge of getting fired for him. It was a bad the situation for him So Scott Turner said a couple of things yesterday about Dwayne Haskins. That you know if this is what we do. It's like you. You know we could just ignore the whole thing and say you know. Wake me up in September. When they've got a real game and then I'll know what they're really doing but you know we talked about you fitting his offense to the talent that they have and he said specific to Dwayne? You know as you mentioned he said we did I you know I did. Have Dwayne evaluated pretty highly coming out of the draft and he said that you know we've got a big guy in Dwayne. Strong guy can stand in. The pocket really pushed the ball down the field. We're going to want to use a lot of play action pass and then something he's also done. A good job of in the past and in college too is just being able to get the ball out quickly. And kind of distribute the football the playmakers playmakers and let them make the plays he also said in his conversation with Ron Rivera before he was given the job. You know that he you know no plan for the meeting with Ron Rivera. And he said I was prepared with a plan of what I'd want offense to look like and how we would develop Dwayne or young quarterback And in in all the players I I I guess in reading the quotes I got. I sort of got the sense if there was any debate as to whether or not they you know. They weren't sure yet. Get on Dwayne. They're going down the path right now of Dwayne. Haskins is the starting quarterback next year right Okay I'm I'm I'm I look at. If play a game tomorrow the only guy they have right I mean. The only other quarterback on the roster answer is Alex Smith. And you know who the heck knows it'll ever be cleared the play again. The obviously he says he's striving to get back on the field so the question will be will bringing back up are they. Bringing in sort of Cole McCoy Tie backup. Who's literally as the backup or they bring me in sort of a Marcus Mariota as a name? You know somebody who has significant starting experienced. Who maybe you can get on the cheap but you know you could arguably see being somebody who could in like a sort of a way compete kind of I? I don't think it's out of the question that the redskins could view it in that second way. I don't think there is a lock on the flip side. You know it'd be borderline nuts. A AH this is this is part of why the whole way and Haskins thing with with Gruden was not so it wasn't just a Jay gruden sort of got hoes with the whole situation but now now you're bringing in another coach. Who is saddled to this guy if the red skin Rivera Decides Haskins isn't for me well? That's a problem that you have this. He was a first round pick. You know if you train them you're not going to get full value for what you got if you keep them and you bring in other people to compete now the whole other things so again. Something Ben don't you think that's something that Ron Rivera. During that time. They initially met with Gibbs and Snyder in early December and the time that he took the job ABC formerly. Don't you think he did all that work. And and and made his decision in part because he is. His vision is in align with the owners that Dwayne Haskins the quarterback of the future. And maybe he wouldn't have taken this job or I mean. He could've taken this job with the understanding from Snyder that he can do whatever he wants with the quarterback quarterback or he's not sold completely at an a quarterback but part of me thinks that you know he did is due diligence on Haskins. He did a lot of. You can't do it all until you've worked with this kid. Every day I understand could change his mind. Yeah I guess I would say that again logically dwayne ask as a starting quarterback logically Ron Rivera. Look at the situation and thoughts himself. Okay if I accept his job you know at least next season minimum at this kid and we'll have to work work it and put you know put enough around him to make this work. Not only that they bring in Scott Turner they brought ends. EMP along You know longtime assistant. Coach is known for for working with young young quarterbacks Baker Mayfield and others so there you know obviously already doing the things you would want to help a kid like half the logic would be that I would just say like you know it is part of it up the essence as well. He has to do more than I think. At times some people thought he was doing. And maybe for Ron Rivera you know I think right now. He's very much. I'm not gonNA see it like sort of what you were saying before about how people come in and they wanted mealy start saying we're going to be this. We're going to be that. I think he is trying to be like well. Look I like what we have. I like to win the Haskins. We'll see and maybe you know it is topped one. I'm viewing it taking it too literally but at the same point. I don't think it would stunned me if wind has the week one starter but at the same point of wooden stunned me. If we're vera brings in of somebody who we might be like. Oh really really okay you. You bringing a necktie. Well that's interesting. Maybe it's not it's not. It's not ca- inconceivable that that guy gets into the lineup of Haskins doesn't do what they what what they want so likely it's Haskins setting up to be haskins again all all sides of point to be asking but I'm not I'm not one hundred percent saying around Rivera's was like in and and look we always talk about. There's only thirty two these jobs and this one. Forget the quarterback. The owner said to the coach. We're going to build this around you regardless of who the quarterback is that's a that's a fantastic opportunity so whether it was the win Haskins Vincent Peyton Manning or you know John Beck. You're not turning down the opportunity. The take this job based on that. The quarterback is a case of course gets us but because figure that out later can't get heated every owner in the league to say it's you you're the the guy in charge we're going to build around you. Is it inconceivable to think that the bengals would pass on Jonesboro. That seems like I mean I know leading to sort of sort of the end of the season going in towards You know going into the college playoffs. Yeah I heard some things about not everybody's convinced that that you'll borough. Is You know a high end. NFL quarterback and all that man it is really hard to comprehend. I mean not only did he put up a record breaking season. Statistically typically he's from Ohio like the Bengals you know a team that could use a a PR boost and and all not mentioning quarterback how they would pass on him. Of of course you know again. It goes back if they decide they do. Have I taken the second round. This is a year where there's like four or five quarterback's seem to be borderline line. First round picks if they decide we will get one of those guys around to. We don't think we think this guy's a reasonable but chase young these outrageous but I mean again I I would just start go at this point based on you know. Maybe the reasons he by the Holy Moly borough was you know so good You know and the Ohio connection. I just would be stunned if they didn't it Take Him all right looking forward to your first NFL mock when is that do Good question I don't know I'm going to the senior bowl. Have never been before going to that. So that'll be a new experience. So I don't know if I'll have one zero four then certainly after and You know what what we'll see excited to hit the across Alabama off. The state listened to you know. Talk to people around the League and get a sense what they think of of this classic asking not just what the Redskins We're going to do and and you know faith. Young is is the lack of a decade. Like people. Think you thank you as always Ben Ben Standing he does a great job telling you it's worth The subscription to the athletic just to read Ben. He's clued in Everything redskins he's always you know on the either breaking stories or certainly right there on the forefront on on the verge of doing it I appreciate it as always talk to you soon. Ben Standing everybody the athletic I'd on tomorrow's show. We will spend time time you'll be on the show tomorrow. We'll talk In preview both championship Games Games. And if you WANNA wager on those games and you don't have a place to do so my bookie dot A. G. 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Introducing The Lead

The History of Standup

06:07 min | 9 months ago

Introducing The Lead

"Hey everyone it's Andrew here and while you're waiting for new episodes from US I wanted to tell you all about a new show from one dri in the athletic called called the lead on the history of stand up we take a deep look into the stories from stand up comedy and the lead brings you on a deep dive into some of sport's biggest stories from the day. If this sounds interesting to you you can subscribe to the lead from one end. The athletic on Apple podcasts. Or spotify or listen for a moment right now. It's Super Bowl Week Kavita. Yeah then I mean. Pat Mahomes homes in the chiefs just went off during these play offs and that niners defense is just out right in the one guy everyone will be watching closely is the dude who towards the souls of packers fans and basically gave Jimmy Garoppolo the day off. Yeah I got carried. More touch his fourth touchdown of the game. Where for he most red for two hundred twenty yards and four touchdowns against Green Bay? This is the guy who was cut by six different. NFL teams and who before the season it was mostly seen as a special teams player. And so today we're going to speak with the athletics Tim Kawakami who has been covering the forty niners for years about how much of a surprised most hurts. Performance really was if he was a one game wonder how surfing has influenced the way he runs. The wave hits and then he's gone. It's a very interesting combination of surfer running back from wondering and the athletic. I'm under scelzo Davidson. This is the lead felt. Don't like something great. There is something of emotion and it was not. This isn't a story easier. It stays with you so Tim Rahim. Most performance against the packers was truly historic back. What was his reaction after the game was like did you know there's one of the greatest games are running back ever had in the NFC champ shame not not actually in truthfully for you to even say that right now is like I? I'm still shocked like I can't believe that's the kind of guy he is kind of guy. Ladas plays right but especially team been bouncing around from Lee from team to team really wasn't thought of as a running back until the forty niners just started plugging them in there and he just never had a bad run he just never her went for less than five yards. So you might as well just keep giving it to them. The hand off into the arms of most Turk he's gone touchdown San Francisco Skirl. He still acts like a journeyman acts like a guy who was a special teams player. Who isn't going to be featured back while he's putting up some of them in you know mega numbers in the playoffs? That they all treat themselves and they look at the world like they're a bunch of journeymen it's very refreshing and I think it is a large part heart of how they've kind of coalesced together they all. Nobody's bigger than anybody else in that locker room. Even the guy who goes for two hundred whatever yards in the NFC championship game. He's a surfer. Right is surfer first of all. You've got no wetsuit on your straight trunks. Longboard short board. You've been to mavericks yet. Like like walk us through the Surf in and when you started and how you got into well you know I started a surfer when I was about thirteen or fourteen and You know there's just been a big hit for me Going out there in the waves and riding the waves like you see in this video man Enjoying the the atmosphere in the water. And I I WanNa go to Mavericks Surfing Contract Billabong. He's no Florida waves out out here in California. We're not sure what that is but I guess they get leaves out there. And he's certainly he runs like a surfer moster back. It gets it Samuel out in touch kind of feels the crest kind of glides towards the word. The whole isn't he catches the the next wave and he's gone and guys don't expect them to get past him in the past. It's not like a classic running bag. He's not like Walter Payton. Juki joking joking is. He's kind of kind of fill in the moment. Feeling where it is the wave hits and then he's gone. It's a very interesting combination of a surfer running back and Do you think he's been enjoying his time in the spotlight here. s I think he has. He understands what it's like not to be any part of this to to be a such an afterthought to your cut by five teams. You understand that you know a world where he's not a star he's lived in that world so he's GonNa enjoy it a little bit again. I don't don't think he's seeking out crazy fame but these guys are all kind of enjoying it right now. They're all kind of like this is pretty good. This is pretty good right now and so tim most performance formats seemed to come out of nowhere. But did you foresee this. I don't think he ever foresee a guy going for two hundred blood and then champion Melissa. Top Top picky certainly wasn't but he's been impressive every time he's carried the ball. He's been impressive. He's been a star special teamer so you knew he had some skills but you saw something building there and you sometimes running backs. Just come out to know or this is the Shanahan's are famous for that. Pulling some guy the fifth around your runs for one thousand yards moster is in that category. They tapped into something with him call. Shanahan recognized it though. He's been good for most of the season. Well thanks for joining us and it'll be interesting to see if most and the forty niners can pull it off on Sunday all right. I'll see you taty land. That was short clip from the lead podcast. You can hear the a full episode and new episodes every weekday on apple spotify or wherever you're listening.

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Take The Time and Do The Research | Sports Card Q&A

The GaryVee Audio Experience

1:06:06 hr | Last month

Take The Time and Do The Research | Sports Card Q&A

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Hey, podcast Joe from team Gary here today's episode is a Q. And A. Session that Gary did with five hundred special fans on zoom. He discusses all the latest tips and tactics to getting into sports cards. We get everybody who raise good on this Saturday just wanted to talk a little sports cards so. We're going to do so if you've got any questions. You know I know a lot of people wanna one and a lot of people are to a one and a lot of people are three hundred one just to set up the framework. But leave comments on the side here. To everyone. Please say hello say what's up and if you have questions please put please put him right into the chat. Glad all of you are here. and. So. This'll be four. We go into it. Just kind of like where I'm at like pretty much besides the way I felt about social media in two thousand and four or the way I felt about the Internet itself in one, thousand, nine, hundred, five, three years ago I got that same kind of feeling in my stomach that buzz kinda similar to like even within social media I felt about snapchat or I felt about Tiktok or. When I look at athletes or Just, thinking back to like A. Just really excited about the space. Think there's a lot of macro trends that led to this like you just. I think it's a huge opportunity. Now at the same token, the reason I wanted to do something like this is there's a lot of ways to lose money. For example, that card that everybody just saw if that was somebody's card, it means that somebody just got into the game bought a Joe. Borough. Hard. But bought it from a grading company. That is like I don't even like I've spent zero time looking at the Bobo as I would call them trading companies. But like I've seen the PG I before I haven't done the homework of when it was. Like. There was a whole era of grading that happened right after I got the game in the mid nineties and a done my homework on kind of like the three I most care about which is PSA S G C, and BGS Beckett. But. Everybody knows again, I put in six months of homework before I put out my first post like there's something going on here and I was three years ago. So it takes a ton of education. There's an ungodly amount of mistakes that I see my friends making who I've talked to for an hour. By buying a qualifier PSA that means something they think is rated an eight but the way the PSA companies do it it's actually a five 'cause there's there's a billion things. There's a million different companies. This is a very deeply education needed base thing on the flipside I haven't seen anything like this. From happiness standpoint in a long time like my most cynical. Like Whether wealth. Of. You know my background, I have a lot of very well off friends that I have a lot of friends that are very much not well off and it's been very fascinating to watch the human dynamics of people that have gone into this game. I think that we are in a moment. I. Do think it's like any market I. think There's a lot of things today that the prices that they are. Now in five years are GONNA be way way way less because people like to speculate on up incoming rookies and just taking high risk on the flip side I. Think there's some substantially, very smart. Investments that are more interesting to me than a real estate or a stock sound stock if you go into very classic. kind of buried protected places. So Lou, you're looking at the comments section maybe we'll I look at all the faces and trying to get a by maybe you can pick the question that Dustin will turn on or maybe you can even activate the question since you have more knowledge than you can get more knowledgeable is second, but I'm ready to do questions. The setup is very simple. This is something that I did from one, thousand, nine, hundred, sixty, one, thousand, nine, hundred, four, I loved I kind of watched it every day since. Didn't see anything really meaningful from a business standpoint it was fun. I would always buy a little theater a little there. But about three years ago, years ago became obvious to me what has happened now, which is why I started making content back then. I'm flattered I guess is the way I would say it that people think like I've I drove it I'm always flattered by that because it's like I mean, do people realize how big this market is and how small my audiences in the scheme of things but it's been really interesting. There's a lot going on. There's GonNa be a lot of happiness had. There's GonNa be a lot of money to be made. There's GonNa be a lot of money that's going to be lost because people are going to make mistakes in jumping to conclusions and lack of education I think the two biggest trends that everybody should pay attention to or on the edges one is what I would call the contemporary art market. I think that if you studied what happened from the one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty s to today with Andy Warhol's and Jackson pollock's and things of that nature. There's a scenario where. By the way I'm getting bombarded people trying to get in this only holds five hundred. So. If. You're just come in because once they would suffer what have you great. But after while you're not interested, don't just leave and leave the sun leave the chats people can get in that are trying to get in. But I'm pumped at all of your Contemporary Art I. Think. You know. Hollow First Edition Shadow US chartered PSA tens that there's only one hundred, thirty, forty of. Even though they're one, hundred k. today could get crazy. I think PSA ten Michael Jordan. Rookie cards that are eighty, nine, hundred, thousand today since there's three hundred thirteen of them. Crazy. If this happens the way I think wanted me crazy I mean things going from one hundred thousand to a million, a piece the way that Jackson pollock's Andy Warhol's dead. So on the Super High End, the contemporary art thing. On the on the low end something I see nobody talking about is we talk about pack breaking and all the stuff that if you don't know what that is on Youtube people opening of packs pack breaking. And we talk about it for what it means for the current hobby. But I don't think people realize how many seven eight and nine year olds watching the living shit out of those videos but they're not in the game yet they're seventy years away from being in this game kind of and so. It's an incredible incredible. What I say pipe. To giving you a debate that the hobby can have much longer legs than being just a twelve month or twenty, four month kind of thing or at least the hobbies one, hundred, twenty years old I'm talking about like these spikes that we saw the mid eighties. Late eighties me early nineties to one that we're living through right now, the one we saw in the early seventies, early eighties, the ones that we saw kind of in a fifties and sixties these have had cycles but if you do real economic homework and look how the card market has outperformed the SNP hundred on the top five percent premium stuff a stormy baseball Mickey Mantle Stan musial Clemente I think that's getting spread out now into POK mon soccer basketball. That's why I've spoken about ninety five percent vintage. The things I've talked about have been basically ninety five per cent mintage and or ninety percent vintage and five to seven young players that I think have already proven enough on the field. I'm not talking about a good highlight Bible, during a scrimmage I'm talking to three years of performing that excited like okay. Maybe there's something here outside of Luca which you might remember two years ago eighteen months ago got really excited about this. I just saw within ten games. Of Kinda need to see. So that's kind of my macro I'd love to get into Cuna. Let's let's rock and roll. Loick, you can. Uh You. got. William Zimmerman. As Yoga in question do you believe in what I WANNA put them on? If you got us caught me do that. Get, some people, featured. Find Them A. Lot going on a chat everybody obviously, it'll be so much stuff here but the chat I think could be more vibrant than even what I'm doing here. So if you're trying to learn try to take pay attention to what's going on in a chat, be Gary what's up man? Hey, will what's going on man I've been following for awhile talk. Thanks. Thank you to questions I got a rising tide theory question than I have A. Software, your car questions so If somebody's PSA ten is skyrocketing. Do believe in buying the PSA nine yes. kind of like rising tide. Raises. All. Boats, opening. My biggest concern is that kids are going to get priced out or people that can't afford are gonNA get priced out. So I'm excited about the PSA eight and nine market I, think the eight market is thing. Yeah, I mean it seen it right? You've seen it. So yes, I absolutely believe that I also think it hits cross pollination vintage basketball's finally had its moment I'm starting to really studied vintage football because I'm like wait a minute if Walter Payton and An Oscar. Robinson we're kind of comped but now Oscars gone up seven x but Walter stayed in the pocket is that in arbitrage? So yes, I think the rising tide matters I, think it goes to cross. Brandt we've Seen Prison Lucas, go bananas, and then all of a sudden you start seeing the hoops or the optic go. But you so I think, yes, I think there's a lot of that in this and I think for vintage specifically eight, seven, six, five it's hard to get excited about a PSA five modern anybody here's going to be excited but I do think eight. Is still an interesting play and raw. We've seen rob forget about even grading so. I really believe in rising dots one more question, and then software your cards if rookie cards way too expensive. Does Not for. Not For me. But guess what I'M A. One percent of the hobby the market not for me I've never been interested in year two cards. You know my brother's getting excited about championship I, championship year card basketball players ages like hot annette doesn't doesn't go crazy for me, but it's an interesting theory Regards to expensive. I I think at I your cards too expensive. If you're looking from an investment standpoint, you look at alternative for sure cards. Right I saw Ryland Show Wade tops card I started buying a ton of Bazooka Lebron's Oh. Getting. So I'm just not hot on your two cards but guess what? In five years? Maybe that's the fucking jam and cool. But not not for me hookah. Cool. Thanks very much. Doesn't. Tack like Jackie Robinson. Henry Taylor Gill and retailer on down. To. Henry what's good? Yeah. Hey, can you Hemi? Crazy man I always sought to Israel right now. But. My question is do vintage. You'll begin to vintage I'm big intervention vintage at George Jevon, fuel recommendations but my question is like going forward I. Know you'll big on the cell Jn big on the style do for grants. My question is what happens when you have someone like. I was looking at your at twitch pose. You've been doing like who's the greatest X. or who's the greatest quarterback? Who's WHO's better amongst I never say by the way on the record because I enjoy what I'm doing on twitter everybody gets mad at me there was. No. Compare these four. That's like. But go ahead. Yeah. I'm not just like the trend that is one hundred percent recently so you can race raccoon. Every single every single time. It's a younger crew on twitter, and so the more current great always outperforms others within the context. I I? Which is why I never like live and die based on those goals to be frank this is good for all of you know I'm really not doing those polls for data for me to buy cards I'm doing them because I'm so in the fucking card cocoon right now that I just start asking these questions for me and I'm just curious what other people think too. So twitter data's to. For that to be an indicator of me to do something businesswise but it's just literally one I'm studying population reports on so. PSA. Watching old videos or looking for angles on things that I'm trying to figure out. It's literally spur of the moment that I get excited about a poll like that and I just put it out for fun so. Listen I think the thing that I did a podcast shush thing. The kids were deep in the game and we're very cynical of when I first came into it and they got a real lesson and how deep I'm in this shit right? Like a lot of homework. I'm doing a Lotta studying. Yeah. Yeah I mean the the essence of my question is basically in twenty years time does anyone remember who could do is or does anymore remember who some seventies walls who may be wasn't. Henry you'll appreciate this now they don't remember now he's actually which is why they were under priced. Yes. Exactly. But that's not it. Would they buying then on that basis of? Nobody alive right now watched. Greenberg play but beat the baseball did all the work for US You can do a ton of homework on what's happening with the baseball card market over the last ninety years and that's why I'm doing what I'm doing next year is the NBA. Seventy. Fifth. Anniversary. They're going to put out the seventy five best players of all time just like they did on the fiftieth anniversary. That's going to start creating all sorts of lists and all sorts of debates. All Sudden Artis Gilmore Bob Mamadou, and George. They start getting a little fame out of that. Bob. Lanier. And you start getting a little action right and. That's what we'll see I mean the SPN list is as Gospel for me that top seventy, four players like look at that list all the time and I analyze it i. also think that we saw what the last dance, the ability for documentaries to bring a lot of interest. Once land last dance dominated in Hollywood right now, there's a billion basketball documentaries in the making and all of a sudden Connie Hawkins and Oscar Robinson and we'll chamber like. This is what happens history plus now you live in a spotify qube world. So you don't need to make a feature film on Jackie Robinson. You can make, for example, I'm talking to Dominique Wilkins right now to do a four part podcast series. Maybe about him, maybe not his favorite player. So like you're going to see a lot of content come out, that's going to educate the kids plus it's fun. It's fun to look back at Shit and I think more and more people are going to people to look for angles not only that. When money starts happening for real older money people start coming your about the huge influx of forty, five, sixty to seventy, one, fifty, nine year old businessman women coming into the hobby and they do know who bob, Lanier and Mac Edouard and when they look that. fucking. fucking Kendrick. Nunn. PSA tens are more expensive than Bob macadear new. They're to by Bob mackey. D's. That's my point. Is what I'm thinking. Cheers you. Keep, moving I appreciate everybody being in your I'm scrolling through all these screens and all the handsome and beautiful faces I appreciate all of you I'm glad you're here and by the way take advantage of this moment there's a Lotta people in here that are gonna be I I like that able Gary, ovey sign card, and there a SE- sharing. Please please please please share your twitter handles right now in the chat everybody. Especially, I link Url's this is an incredible opportunity for a lot of you to get to know each other and build. French. Like literally I expect at the National Chicago two of you coming up to my table be like we met on the fucking Saturday zoom so like yes, we're here yapping but like please I, see what I love this watching what's going on with the by the way notice some people you are elling in summer adding it you the URL because it's easier for people just click them and fucking star following each other because obviously wrong that same wave here. Let's keep it going dust next we'll be corey Donovan. Corrigan here. What's Good Gary Korda's Corey Aka Yelm. Wax On social aim and I'm looking at this this boom and cards going straight into the football season right now and with fantasy football and all that and the new investors. Are we gonna see skill positions like wide receivers tight ends running back, start to pop week to week or even ongoing Yup Sure are so the newbies in here, the thing I was told three years ago but some of the that I was coming in learning learning learning like Gary the hobby doesn't like anybody in football besides quarterbacks. And I was like, okay. But my biggest thing corey three years ago was the hobbies redefined. Because if there's fifty thousand people in it now this is what I was thinking back then but there's going to be five million in it at fifty thousands of very small percentage. So what rules are going to be redefined right and so I think you're going to see an explosion of fantasy and gamblers coming into sports cards this year and I think receivers I know Lou I'm looking at little on here I know he's gone focused on receivers. Like I'm a believer that football is next vintage football's my focused but I do think that I'm not buying Aj Greens or Julio. Jones's or even younger guys like Amari. Cooper. But I think there's real real real money to be made in like a short term arbitrage I do and I think that in a long term arbitrage they have to go I think everybody gets caught is some if you're betting on new kids eventually somebody's sitting with the back. Because to really be worth something, they have to be a top fifty player of all time. So like that like I learned this in my teenage years around todd back I bought four thousand David Justice Rookie cards when older guys like a very small group back then was saying, no, by Ernie banks by Clemente Fuck you old guy and that's who I am. Now, the action for all these kids is in the new guys. Gary you go into a card shop I recommend anybody do it slipped through early ninety s sports cards. Early. Two thousand six guys like Clinton or they're totally forgotten. So you you're right. You do have to the absolute stars. That's right. Think back to all the guys who crushed seven when we look basketball's at the height and look at what a Ray Allen or Chris Bosh is doing nothing. Yeah and the vice, and if this was happening during the heats run fresh bosh rookies would be through the roof. You're going get a lot of people thought with a lot of modern. But yes, I do think in the short-term football scares the fuck out of me because you were perfectly right about Amari Cooper and breaks his fucking leg in one. That could happen that can happen cutting home. Lamar Jackson too though. So you know it's a tough day in. Football. Tough But Gomez. Thank you talk to you later. Up Next. We'll be Adam rubble. Gary Adam. How breath are you superman awesome. So I want to ask you a question. I'M A I'm from Toronto Hugh dropped her fan. We have a stack team and we have a bunch of young guys feel like they don't get a lot of press I great replay off for the raptors when they played Canada. Worth investing guys like US Gallo. Jeep. I'm obsessed with Og. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. As I believe in his game. I'm scared that all prison rookies are expensive. Like like I sat and watched Oh highlights for like four hours not true forty five minutes but it felt like six years and then I went to like I'm to steal this fucking kid and they were ready expensive. You know. So it's a little hard. Yeah. No listen if somebody's great great and don't forget bad for you but but good for the card investment if Eighty percent of those guys are gonNA leave on the Max contract. Okay I don't want that for you as. I mean I hate the rappers because Knicks fan but like for new that sucks but you know those e I would argue that six out of ten of those guys are going to go to a big market on their You guys load terrence, crm og those guys are it's like you might win the title this year no one hundred percent I mean I mean I mean fucking Hawaii let stayed forget it. You would moonwalk. Yes, like I. Don't think. I. Yes. It hurts a little, but but good is good and it always works out. Oke Pittsburgh's a small market but you know like if you're good, you're good. Okay no, that's good to know. Thank you. I mean Bro Nobody knew Golden State was fifteen years ago. I was literally being San Francisco. In Tech all those nerds didn't care about sports. What about the warriors like what's that I'm going to say that like where's that? While I was in San Francisco Right? So like if you good good works every time. Okay. Appreciate that. Thank you not just. Up Next. We'll be John Evans. Gerry, it's good John. On rather well, thanks so much for this man. I'm really interested in stuff that's on. You mentioned doing some recent research around things that you think are untapped or undervalued. I'm curious if there's anything you'd WANNA share here that you found. I know as I've been trying to Cana. Leave no stone unturned looked especially at the starting lineup sets. Fan. About. ME. I've only owned probably about fifty or sixty, but I've been buying starting lineup cards. I've been buying starting lineups figures to rip the card out. Yeah that's what I've been doing as well that one's especially interesting. Just 'cause it's got really low pop in pop report within also a lot of the starting lineup collectors kept them in the packaging. So even if everything else has also throw some good looking cards specially the early stuff, right? Yeah I'm a buyer. Lou might be laughing right now because I want a stack of raw starting lineups at the national last year I came back I was all fired up. He was excited. He thought I brought back something good and he made fun of be but like I really I like them I listen I believe or next half decade anything that has low pop and never had cultural relevance has she has a chance. Okay. All right. Well, let's go. I felt like a mad scientist is I've. Got To cut them out the packaging and I think you're onto something I also like I also, and I really love branded cards right You, know I think I I really liked the bear seventy said I've been on a record on that I see holding one up right now obsessed with. Sugar. Daddy. Seventy four is a little ones. Sixty eight Jack in the box San Diego Clipper cards that Weird Shit really has my attention because it's extremely rare and all you need is a little bit of demand and it gets a SURCO. So I last question along those lines with the sort of more obscure stats liked the icy beer. Do you think along the lines of your art. scarves imitating art thesis when you have cards like this, that are jumbo in bigger I'm thinking. So if this replaces are and people hang this up. I. Don't think we're going to hang it up but I think you're gonNA see some display cases built that people can. Like hang up their twenty five best one. So I think the five by seven stuff like the interleague Jordan and all that stuff like you may see some stuff happen but I don't think you take I do think bigger cards and smaller cards again, rules of the old hobby I go away. So I don't think size matters in any shape or flu going forward I really don't. Count on what I've been wondering because you have like these little small stickers like the nineteen eighty Dr J.. These are the small Spanish stickers, and then you have like these jumbo cards and I'm wondering if one or the other is going to be better than just your regular one means point of view it could be totally wrong. I think plays out that neither size matters. Okay but I think I. Have Thought Standard cards only, and that's where there's an arbitrage. Awesome. Thank you so much man for what you're doing for hobbies very well. Thank you, John. We're just getting a lot of questions about how to start. So I don't know if you WANNA just make. Them Yeah Lou may there's a lot of stars in your? Can you link like times in a row in my chat that you are you guys made on my blog that has all the links that we think. Is The ten hour starter kit to get all the rules down. Thank you for all the really really noobs which you know I was just three and a half years ago. But I had like decades of experience but you need to get refreshed on all the new rules will put a bunch of things here. Please feel free to share it out exert nature. And Lou because you're sharp on his ship since taking questions, why don't you read the chat pretty aggressively Lou and maybe jump in with some questions in between quick fire questions that seemed to be commoner. He's pretty much during the semi names. Awesome. So feel free to jump in occasionally and just if you see something interesting to you just ask the question on behalf dust. Liam Wasserman. was. Gary, let's go breath. I heard two questions. So what do you think why do you think based cards are beginning to outsell certain autographs? A cost of entry. There's so many more people into this now, but there's at first I mean it's expensive shot. and not everybody a lot of people collecting not just slipping and it's hard to buy a silver for six thousand bucks. You know or or one of one of Caputo's ten or so I think bait whenever the hobbies very popular. When there's a lot of demand, basil always do better what you grew up with. It sounds like by you asking that question which you were in before this boom. Was I've been in for about seven or eight years perfect that demand was much lower. So. So that demand group didn't want the basis because there was a lot of supply they went after the one of one hundred and one and one. Got It. So as demand grows the base grows with it. And then another question about like how do you feel like celebrities in the game? So I use the key Mark Wahlberg are all big accounts that are starting to put out sports cards how do you think that's going to affect the market? Oh, I think that's what the next wave is. I think Walberg S-, on a different level, I o keys, different level meat for that matter to like I've always said this the last year you've probably heard like you guys think I'm fucking way to see what's going to happen I mean, I think we're moments away from coolest people doing it top ten rappers top ten athletes and that it's going to be fucking game over gangs. Let you on your podcast telling was it like Serge. Ibaka investing card again. Search is like he hit me up the other day surged by the way to the gentleman. I don't see him Toronto kid search told me about terrence Davis until I started really looking ahead. Against Serbs of great solid NBA player. But I'm like talking like Dwayne, Wade and the baby and gonNA and Ti, and tiger, and fucking you know like like real fame yet. But then you then you have to think like maybe cards might start. Start to get too expensive for me. I'm I'm eighteen. I'm not afford all this woman college of course, but two things will happen one since you've been in seven years that's going to escalate so much that you're gonNa have more capital if you deplete it if you're not just holding to, it will adjust and you'll look at nine eight or like me me and others are looking for starting lineups for like like. You grew up and most of the people I talk to been in it for ten years or more. Up In an era where it was tiny. So it was concentrated. Psa Ten you know limited cards, right? You're about to watch. Happen is the complete expansion of something that is going to make fifty nine things important. Not just one. Because I know personally I've been all modern but I'm starting to look into vintage Mike. I'M A. I'm a Cleveland Ohio. State. So I'm looking into a fifty eight tops, Jim Brown that I WANNA buy. Yes. Do me a favor by fifty Jim Brown immediately. That one's about to get bananas. Bananas. There's I'm looking into a couple of low grade just because that's what I can afford. I respect that I would tell you one of the ways that a Lotta sport kids are GonNa win is going to buy and sell very hot things like a tatum or Mitchell or Michael. Porter Jr. take profits and go into. More scarce vintage naturally see kids really amassing true wealth in this era. Because I want to look into vintages more long-term amendment, four years of college just the Leeann what but I think everybody starting to learn everyone's Gary vintage doesn't go up as fast and they were all telling me that Gary, the new stuff goes. So fended I'm like cool. You don't understand the second vintage demand rises. There's no fucking inventory. I was PSA fucking eight Dr. Jay's a year ago for seven hundred bucks. Now they're fucking five at six, thousand, seven, eight, nine, thousand. Right and I saw I saw John Snyder was driving put up comes up so. I'm taking that as a contextual guy who's been in it for a while or understands these pointers sound like either he sees it or he's lived at listen I lived this already was called nineteen, eighty, six to one, thousand, nine, hundred, four. What did I do? The same mistake I'm trying to tell kids not to make which is got excited about everything that was happening of the moment. Now, you should still do that. That's why people gamble. That's why People Watch sports I get it but if you're really trying to build I, WanNa buy a house with this one day. I. Want to start a career like it is about supply and demand, and the bitch stuff is such an important place to look at. Your. By the way back to Ohio State Braxton Miller heavy up really a week ago instead of want to get in so. Yeah, I'm on I'm on campus right now I'm a first year. So enjoy. All right. Let's keep moving. I haven't seen the blockchain. I saw the blockchain question over I haven't really looked at blockchain like my blockchain is very simple like a blockchain technology in two thousand, fifteen I bought some bitcoin after a funny debate night on at South by southwest did extremely well but I have not been active in it right now I actually see the physical nature of the cards acting like contemporary art but but blockchain is a technology that will all be affected by through the years ago be plenty of opportunity. It's just not where I'm putting my energy right now. A lot of people are asking about like soccer vintage soccer upset. I think it it very simple up. SAST. Curious. I think one of the for me. To clarity Louis. What do I have twenty cards? I have very little inventory. But I think something that I would. Want to hear about as like when it comes to I think a lot of people are looking for when it comes to modern people looking for prison looking for tops 'cause stuff they know when you get into vintage when you get into ventured soccer especially, it's like the most random shit ever hand. Atta magazines and like what is the brand called? No one knows what the actual card is. So I think all of it is in play the greeting companies did it for you you know and I'm seeing Josh. One of his cards screen like. New Union, you know what's fun Lou is you've been with me guys Lou who's on the screen right now just talking you know he's my Admin, but I've known him since he was six were Japan's together as data. Great. Friends like three years ago when I was like you know we're doing this he kind of laughed about it but he was into it and helped me Lou. You know this I was about the weird stuff from the beginning the HAM, the fifty two wheaties or the first things I was buying. Those random should have ever seen in my life, right so like like I'm not scared by any of the ran fifty, sixty, seventy s soccer stuff all of it is interesting to be as you know I'm the one thing I haven't gone into the postcards on a little. That's he literally the only thing I haven't bought but like all of it I think has to be. Lou here's why and everybody's watching and Yes I did I did bid on an actual soda bottle cap on E. Bay everybody made fun of me the other day. I think the hobby will evolve. It's point of view on things. But if it's graded and that means kind of official I, think all of it is employed to be debated of penalties got like seven different cards are debated as the rookie card Ali all this stuff I think all of it's going to be debated Jerry and make sure that car towards a lot of money for you one day. Yeah. So so I think soccer is there's a lot to learn you know I've started by educating me myself who the fifty greatest players are since I didn't grow up really being hardcore. Homework. The Global Sport basketball is emerging as the new Annex Global Sport, which is why I'm so bullish on it obviously understanding lot better. The World Cup is going to be super exciting. You know boom you also have a potential generational talent if he stays healthy with Mugabe happening at the same time. So there's a lot of interesting stuff going on on soccer. Soccer and pokey Bonner. To all of this conversation because they are gateway drugs to people that don't like the big four sports in America. And so I'm watching a lot of people get into a lot of things because pokemon and soccer getting them in, and then that gets them John. I. Love Your emotions. I guess you agree with me John Slater. Think POKEMON and soccer getting people that have never considered cards back in the day in, and then there were bleeding into football and basketball and other things. The same way I mean I'm watching basketball only kids get into one Soto and and and Fernando to teach junior just. I'm going to say one more time. I am very good at pattern recognition. It is why predicted so many things right. It's why I'm successful along with some other dynamics, but it is one of my great skills. I seen these patterns before I lived them in one, thousand, nine, hundred, and eighty six. And it's just happening again. But happening with the Internet, it's happening with you to pack breaking. It's happening on the back of the eighty six to ninety three era where I became obsessed the now I have money. So there's an so who five, thousand, fifty, thousand, five, hundred, thousand others. So you're getting a different wave because when it happened eighty six to ninety, three appearance of that era, they weren't the generation that was in love with cards when they were kids. So they were like, what kind of We are seeing kids dragging parents in parents dragging kids in. It's a bigger dynamic. This time it is. Next this column. Her sewing, I can't pronounce. Pleasure to be. Nice to have you on. So my question had to do with. So I've been preaching to my friends saying you know what? On this on this? It's early and like everyone I've talked to says that again I know you're jazz brinda vintage and stuff and I've kind of been focused on right now and moving money to Mitch but everyone I've talked to thinks. It's like gambling like your vetting on players to win and I see a lot of people making cleric money like that. I just wondering what your thoughts are on it is gambling. Yes so you would say street gambling to I wouldn't say it's straight gambling because the reason I started yelling three years ago. And the people that jumped on I knew the whole thing was going to go up. So it was almost like got look if you're losing money in cards right now turn off the computer and never go into business again. Like like that's what happens. When explodes now, we're starting to enter the next phase. where it I mean people are paying for national treasure RPA's of kids that have that ninety percent of those kids are not gonNA, make it. Now. If they flew quickly, it's day trading nurses buying apple stock for five years. I'm playing this the way I play the stock market. I've I seven twelve things and sit on a forever. I'm not day trading ninety percent of this room right now and twitter and social our day trading. That's fine I don't get the judge how one place it, but that is gambling now I think when you do it with Devon Booker. And KUNIA versus Michael Porter Jr., and fucking Jason Dominquez. It's a different level of gambling. Right. Right. So so I think when you're betting on sixteen year old prospects and Bowman, you are completely rolling your fucking dice. I think when you watch a season like a Kunia last year and the fucking pedigree, you're not gambling much now you're derrick rose gambling territory means. Which means everything could be right and we're all right about a Kunia and Kirk Dis pointers, sprays fired up but. But, a Kunia could become Jackson, get hurt and not happen. I lived through Jackson I lived through Penny Hardaway I lived through Grant Hill I lived through that. You know what's fun about vintage Jerry West is always going to be the logo. Jerry. West is always going to be a time og Jerry West is always going to be the guy that fucking traded Vlade debates for for fucking Kobe Bryant Jerry West is always going to be one of the iconic old white guys that could play Jerry West is going nowhere. long-term you can't go wrong. You can go unbelievably wrong. With every single. MONEY IS GOING TO BE LOST ON ZION. Now. Zion could go on to be fucking Lebron and but the potential. I promise you this between Zairean. John. Moran. Jason Dominquez like there's some real money going to be lost in the Sierra maybe not by the people that are sitting now because they're flipping it but somebody's going to be sitting with the bag. To St Collection and I don't want to be sitting with a bag. I'm buying things forever. State and That's it. Yeah I know. Well, thank you very much. He's got a brother. Nexus Tommy Hayes. Zion could be Shawn Kemp. That's a great example. Do you understand if this was the NBA final season chunk of the sonics versus the fucking bowls? How expensive Gary Payton and Shawn? Kemp. Rookie will be right now. Like kids are not thinking now they're rating which I'm telling you might I haven't figured out a piece of content yet but at some point, I'm definitely GONNA put out Hey, kids be a great day traitor take thirty fifty percent off the rack and put it into something that's long term and just keep playing that game I think that could be because then they got something for themselves one day. So I, love pokemon Pika choose not gonNA tear ACL Let's keep it going. Just, needed someone. who was thinking? Antonio are good Eric were. Fine Sean. Let's go up. Go ahead we. Jerry. Tommy Tommy. What's good I had a question about I've seen big trend on vintage basketball football baseball reprints, and then people going getting him ps aid and then putting Walter Payton rookie for thirteen hundred dollars out there. That's a reprint education education education. It's. You see these people like you know just keep on doing it or just buyers. My Hope Tommy is that somebody here in this room that doesn't know how they want to enter this industry. Decides to start a twitter account or social media account that lists everybody WHO's trying to trick people with qualifiers and reprints and becomes one of the five biggest accounts in the whole scorecard hobby because everybody references it and it stops people for being fuck faces. I think that's a by the way, but he's Kinda clever wants to do something a little different I think that would be a monster account. The timing that Tommy that's why. One hundred hours of education before you buy your e Bay meanwhile, the second second they get hot on it by sixteen things on Ebay and buy fuck in PSA a qualifier and get ripped the by reprint and get ripped off they buy they buy a bullshit grading company. G and people. Make fucking mistakes. I see these bags out here doing this and I'm just like you're gonNA push away too many people from the industry and Piss people off the good news is if I feel like the reason I'm being loud around education is I'm hoping the next people that have big audiences pick up on that and hopefully that will be a big and we all got to keep pushing at him and. I can't control trimming and things of that nature like that. It's hard. That's like FBI. Ship like the common stuff like. reprints. fucking. or or the qualifiers really trick people heavy Tommy. PSA Some qualifiers people getting ripped off heavy lawyer. Man. Thank you. Thank you. A lot of people asking about. Future. Of U. OF C. Trading Cards, I miss. Some of you've been no-brainer Sports is now in the AFC Game Rep Pretty, legit dudes we've got a main event tonight. and. And I'm literally starting my process of you of C. Homework this weekend I think. So I believe in you. I think you've sees a really good spot. I. Haven't done any homework have no clue on population. Only starting education I'm bigger. I was struggling bigger boxing fan than I was Yup, see but always dabbled. But now that we're in the business, I'm heavy console of a lot more to say the next year if you know you see. A It's definitely somewhere to look at because boxing cards, golfing cards, tennis cards when and again. I'm looking at a lot of faces in here even some older cats in here we're going to see another entire cycle. This is going to be this era and what is it going to be twelve months forty nine months two months I'm not fucking no stress I have no clue how long this happens. What can tell us it's going to it's already happened like I said it would we're in it. It's going to have run, and then whatever it is the global economy something else just general fatigue everybody being hot on it together for five years and it gets boring like every other thing in life and they'll be up and then again seven, twelve, nine teen years later, they'll come right back. This is one hundred, twenty years in the making. So that's why I want you sitting on Jordan's and and. And the bronze and Dr. J.. Walter Paeans not Michael Porter to and Michael Porter might turn out to be like the gambling is so high on modern. Jackson. Jackson. Eight. So I had a question about What you think is better investment for baseball either prostate cards or the rookie cards like I have. This. Bowman Acuna. Prospect car added you'd rather have. If felt like for a long time, Bowman was winning the day the Hobby had bowman. But we've seen a major surge on tops first appearance in series to update and I think I think it will continue to evolve Jackson. I think you play the arbitrageurs. It might end up being heritage seven years and that was the right arm. So I think I think he hedge you don't talk to anything. It was very clear that it was bowman three years ago to me when I did my backlog homework tops has closed the gap quite a bit in the last eighteen months I think both of them were quite sound. The problem is right like you look at Eloy Jimenez seven a great year right now right what hurts foam in a little bit is that he's in his cubs uniform and a white sock, and you think about those kind of dynamics a little bit a lot of these minor league guys switcheroo versus when they kit as a rookie and are awesome they locked in for quite a while team. So there's a little bit of that right? I think one of the reasons. Moses Malone, for example, is under rated is because he played for like nine different teams. But had he played in one place for one right? I think about. Those things I always think about Wade boggs probably underpriced because he became a Yankee. Like Boston Cape though there right maybe even mookie betts for that reason though I think he has too great fan bases that are less direct rival. So these are all the things that run through can hit. Thank you. You're welcome. Also say on the top spillman thing G. like. Tattoos is an example of the guy who popped off this year like his. Bowman. His Bowman. Is Still. Eight hundred dollars and his top series two's only like to sixty yet. The boman still does carry a pretty big premium for a lot of guys I think. So I think we've seen tops closed the agree with you. On on the side of I, think tops is better but that's just my personal opinion. I think they'll evolve. I think that. I think it's going to be interesting to watch a ball I. You think tops will continue to close the gap intuitively I think so. Also, think it's a price point. That's a little more affordable to the youngsters also think tops Lou when we did that with them, I yelled at them, I'm like make your regular product. Good. They finally did this year with like some parallels in some autos otherwise it's boring shit. Keep going by the way biggest are y biggest reason I jumped in here is following me wanted to be in here. And about the subject matter, there's substantially strong situation that you want to be. That you can be friends with each other. So after this is done, please go to twitter and use the Hashtag that was fun GV that was fun GV this where you can find each other and maybe get into Combos, follow them trades by from whatever you'd like to do. So I let's get that. Hashtag in there that was GB. Let's get a couple more in here real quick. Jerry Hey. Can you hear me I can. All right. Great. So I had a question. I got like two thousand dollars into the sports cards and I'd like to say I've got some pretty big stuff. I've got his eye on Silverton here. I've got a load. Imbaba Imbaba's I mean I was buying when said the by? I got him at fifty two bucks a piece. I still had to pay twenty bucks to get them graded. But at what point do you cash cow and what I mean by that is. Do I do I sell one car to get all the money back and have a little safety. So it's all free money or Okay. That's. Now the problem is. You know. You may sell something that gets you on your money back at three thousand bucks and then watch it go to eleven thousand be like what the fuck so the only time the cash out is at the moment that was the right time to cash out and nobody can tell you that. Okay, we'll. So I'm Dave Ramsey nut. I literally just use the stimulus money that I got because I was like well, free money you know might as well go for it You Know How do you? How do you decide what to sit to sell out because I've got like five Babe's Keeping forever because. The real og fly Larry. You're part of the new grade of people that you know what what's really wild about the people that came in. Through my funnel is the stuff that I pushed Jaanus Luca. Mugabe. Went so crazy. That a lot of people made a lot while the hobby was like trying to figure out if I was foolish ed or bad or good, the my audience ended up doing extremely well on those bets Lebron Chrome, and so you know you gotta decide is this something you loved? Is something interesting to you? Is this something that you are learning about or was it something you believed in me you? Decide. You believed in turning your stimulus into something and you're sitting here you might be the kind of guy put should just sell right now. That's amazing. You made a lot of money but if you're seeing like wait a minute I like Pokemon, I like sports or something and I wanna learn more it depends on how much you want to get educated. Your answer to Mugabe brother is doing homework Mugabe. Understanding that he may go to the Premier League and what understanding that the World Cup in Qatar in the winter of twenty education is how you make these decisions. I'm a huge advantage that I live the life I live now where I actually Deanne with Juan Soto and Fernando to. And like gets a note these kids and then decide are they a knucklehead or are they trying to work at all times to become great and then that helps me make decisions it's all data and information will honestly. So the whole reason why honestly got into the sports cards was to learn how to build a youtube page and I would really like to come work for you or Dave Ramsey a content creator. This right here is my favorite card this. Credit is a credit card that I had I cut it in half to do the Dave Ramsey. Jet Free I was going to send it off the PSA, but I really appreciate it. I don't know if they'll great jerry, you're on the right path. So keep making content by the way you probably the perfect guy to get deeply educated and make and make the social media account the Tommy and I were just talking about, which is the one that you need. Probably two hundred hours of education. So you don't have a good account, but it's posting. Like auctions that are trying to trick people like who knows maybe that's What I was GONNA. Say One way to tell everybody the safest way to get into sports cards. I've just been going out to Walmart and using free capital that I had. They put out six hundred bucks worth the mosaic a tripled money in ten days on Ebay and I mean that's an. And that flip burn a lot of emotion in the hobby because they're mad about the people that are buying everything and that's on Walmart to try to figure out if they have to start limiting and this is all human and economic dynamics everybody has to figure out what works for them people. You know people say that's not right and I'm like look I struggled to tell another man how to feed their family, right? Angle, it's very hard to tell. Everyone people in Control Paninis in control their business warmer and target and control business. Everybody here is in control of their business. So a million ways to get educated, and there's a million ways to play it. But I think good honest kindness and real education and trying to do it the right way. There's so many ways to win in this and it's more mostly fun and it makes watching sports on and. Look at me on ninety five percents vintage I, love sports but I just think there's so much I get so much fun in doing research and figuring out that there was a cookie company that made in nineteen, fifty, four Hank Aaron. Card, and I think that's weird and cool and because I think it's GonNa, go more art on the super high. End I think some of these cards that are four thousand dollars that are weird that nobody wants could end up being three million dollars. I'm not kidding. Yeah. At least play or you want to do patch mahomes because you think he's GonNa win for the next five Super Bowls Mazal Tov do you? Well, hey man I really appreciate you sound. Like. You are the best man up Reggie books listen to you daily man, just keep up the good work. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Sneak one or two more in here. Cody Caro. Gary Hey. What's good. What's up? So Funny Story. You actually you in lieu actually bought a plane ticket for me to come to the national. Got Got cancelled. But hopefully, we'll be able to meet soon. So I got a question about card break sunway. That's the thing that I really love about this hobby right like like I. You know I've tried to bring a ton of kindness to it. Again. I'm not confused and a lot of you you're in it and I know what people think about me or did think about me like. There's so many. Like buying buying somebody a plane ticket to come to the national is like the Karma that I love living on and it's really fun and I. Think for a lot of you if you're doing really when meet a lot of money like helping a kid get into it or stopping somebody from making mistakes maybe instead of posting all your flexes of sports cards every day posting an article that teaches somebody how. Quantified are like. There's a lot of ways to give back. Of course, go ahead my friend. So my question is about card breaks, they're getting more and more popular. Now, it seems like almost everybody wants to get into it yet fun. Yeah. Of course, that's why I got into it myself So I've been doing it since February I've been trying to grow community around it not just for them to join my breaks but just around the hobby in general, how can I hung alight stand out as a new heartbreaker that's going to be completely based on your skills. Was the question everybody asks me on twitter and Youtube in two thousand, six I was blowing up they're like, how do I stand out and my answer was be good. And being good comes in a million forms you're attractive. That's good. That works your funny. That works you're deeply educational entertaining. You came up with a random idea that was different than anybody else had ever done it that way it's all the same shift brother. Yeah I've I've actually tried in the beginning in the beginning. Let me give you. Let me give everybody a good piece of advice. If you want to break, make your first fifteen episodes totally different to see what's resonating what's good for you. Don't pick your format, try ten different formats in the first ten episodes. Makes complete sense when I started out I tried out a bunch of different types of our breaks I tried like. Somebody gave me an idea for a blind auction card break. I was like sure. Let me try it like I haven't seen him by good. Let me just try it. But I've also been trying to light give back since like I've learned a bunch of stuff and. You know it's really tough to become mccart breaker I've actually started greeting guide I have a discord where people come in. They could host their own hard breaks to try it out to see if they like it. They could ask questions is all that sort of stuff I got breaking I. Love It keep going brother he's going banks appreciate it take care thinker. Pskov. Hey Luke Palo Lou, can you get a rapid fire maybe four or five of the questions that you? and WHO'S UP Diana. Changed. Hi. I'm Gary I read all your. Looking. At other and I I'm sorry nine old and so but boyfriend has a bunch of Jordan's very happy about that. We're also interested poking on because ever since the she'll they. Asked the. And other because yes, he can't tear his ACL and I have two boys six year old and I want to do as a family and investment monks as well and hope temporary or angle also has really intrigued to want it not only for fine but investments for our armored. This is fun and a hobby and a family event that can make you money. Getting into skiing costs, money becoming family costs money. This is crazy. That way I think you're on it and I think pokemon is a safe as gets, but you have to get uncomfortably educated. I one hundred hours of watching video in reading one hundred. I need to comfortable good but I think you're on it and I think it's GonNa be Great. From your guide, which I will get into your face. Is there anything else that interest poke? Really photo ready for the Senate offering I'll go on twitter that was fun GV we're going to all. Be My last thing I say here before we live that was on. and. And you could just say anybody helping the pokemon sick seventy people your that can really help. Oh perfect I love it and you still Jaren you're welcome. You Gary v soon. I promise you guys burning. I can't wait. Yep. So, someone asked about thicker cards. So like national treasures. Those as opposed to the bay stuff. I again, I don't think size matters obsessively scared of Nawar because they're black and they can't great wealth. So I, think they're just an incredibly difficult thing to collect But if you love collecting wrong, you're not worried about breeding than their amazing. So just comes out now you see it. Do you think sixty one is too expensive right now sixty one floor basketball's grossly underpriced right now we've it's gone up five to ten X. someone was talking about vintage cubeys data. Their uncle was named testaverde wondering about investing it that did cubeys. Distributes wildly underpriced. Amar versus Mahomes Prison Base Lamar Roberson homes. I think mahomes will have a better career, but anybody can get hurt at any time. and. Then thoughts on soccer we talked about it a little bit basketball talked about it's everybody would come in with your question that you want ask right now we'll do a whole rapid thing and will just keep reading his favorite ones. So Astra lagging severely over here. Let's listen a car talk I'M GONNA I'm GonNa plug car talk real quick. You got a car talk pod one thirty seven. PM Cards every week Myself Tell Schmidt from team Gary and Ryan Johnson car collector to we'd have injuries every week on pokemon vintage stuff we're GONNA have Gary on soon and me and him just gonNA argue into charge like an hour straits can be great. Kids in the chat I haven't gone into it yet the window of garbage filkins was like an eighteen months phenomenon and I don't think that was long enough a phenomenon. To be like a crazy thing but I could see tripling during this era because we still have millions of people that are potentially coming into this hobby or or investment thing. So I think everything even right now has real potential, but I don't think that's the most potential and on the downturn. PEACHY RED CHEEKS PSA ten is better than an atom bomb PSAT's. We think think about greeting from. The inevitability of digitized greeting like. I can't wait I can't wait for the machine to be invented. I'm trying to get musk's than that and make it, and then this way all the debating and scares but that would make things vulnerable because if you have a PSA ten at forty thousand dollars and it comes back a new machine nine. People that'd be fucked up, but that's there's risk in everything. Apple Spinning wheel here so I don't know. Do you think about the current Lebron James and Kevin Durant. PSA nine rookies. Lebron. James and Kevin Durant. Yeah I think I think both I think Kevin Durant has the to be the most interesting of them all because I think people quickly forgot that really the best basketball player in the world when he got hurt and so I think I'm any place in New York I think Kevin Durant is extremely interesting high risk some hot excuse me high upside some risk depending on how his game the way he plays is not reliant on his injury, and so I just think anything he's very chip on shoulder I'm. Very bullish on durant. You know this bought maybe more durant than anything. I'm very bullish on him and I think PSA nine is incredibly interesting category as things get expensive. I even think PSA eight for the not ultra-modern but the modern called the two, thousand, six, two, thousand, ten, back is even an interesting debate. Someone asked about I can't find sec over PSA. It's interesting ending you probably know I'm very fond of as she I think they're extremely difficult on grading others that one viral post were ten as she got six PSA. But like you see that all the time in every direction like I think. As she sees tough grading. I like the black case personally under that's completely subjective opinion. Everybody likes different cases. I think there's three companies PSA BGS and she saved and I. Submit. A lot probably more than two s she see and and I get mad about it because I get back back reads. But I just like the pieces. A. Sports cars. Sports cards depends on the player's skills, but what do you? What about POKEMON WATER? What makes them? I guess? Favourite than what else? The, community of poke him out getting excited about characters or new original programming kind of like star wars if pokemon starts doing content on. Netflix. Around Squirrel just on a six part series on that that's going to build up demand and so future behavior with the IP is GonNa change the outcome just like in the comic world nobody gave a fuck about black. Panther and then all of a sudden we know movies coming in everybody does same thing with Pokemon over the next thirty years things will pop up whether it's toys whether it's cards whether it's a video game whether it's a movie whether it's a miniseries on spotify feature, a specific oakmont, and that might change the market dramatically. GotTa. Go I hope everybody enjoyed. Value over what he's super. Well, thank you for being a part of this. To continue this incredible communities go to twitter right now. Hashtag. That was fun GV that was fun GV used that Hashtag we just put it in here so everybody there's no mistaking it. Back. On javy. You Go. and hope everybody's well good. Luck See. Extra joining A. Everybody you need everybody doesn't so they can say, goodbye. Johnny. Writing. Your. Own. I. It. Does. Eat Black. Talk. Four in Reno. Your asshole. Clerks The name of the car. Everybody. Does try Sosa poking. By trying to what? God. What's going on here anymore Episodes over please. A review and subscribe up on apple a lot a lot a lot to me. Thank you very much. Thank scary. Today's highlighted. Review is fire by Doug hearing how the successful practitioners executed. So perfect for understanding what it actually takes. For me, it gives understanding of what I need to focus on next in such a time in the world of entrepreneurship. Thanks Gary. Keep. Those reviews coming. We could highlight yours next.

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