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Game of Thrones Re-Watch | Season 6, Ep #9: The Winds of Water

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Game of Thrones Re-Watch | Season 6, Ep #9: The Winds of Water

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So when you're ready to experience better way to sell or trade in your car checkout truecard today. True cash offer not available in all areas. Winter was here. But we are just getting started on our recap of the season six finale of game of thrones the winds of winter. And now here the guys who are about to dive into everything that was going on here. Just like king, Tom, and I am robs streaming here with Josh Josh our you doing better than to in doing better than the house. No, it's been a solid like minute two years or so at this point right so shooting twenty six twenty sixteen the night that post show recaps was decorated with a podcast award for best TV and film podcast. Oh my goodness. Wow. I had no idea that this was the same night. My my memories of all blurred together. That's fantastic. That's amazing. And we got such a great episode of game of thrones that night as well. Because all these. Years later up the winds of winter. This is a fabulous episode of game of thrones definitely top five. Yeah. It really holds up. It's a long episode. But there's almost no filler no deadweight here. Lots of dead weight. I mean, literally like just like dead body weight by the end of this. I mean, there's almost, you know, not a scene here that you say, I would cut that one that one didn't land almost a perfect episode, and it starts so. Well, the opening sequence the whole light of the seven sequence really does play as well. As you as you hope it does in your memory of the episode if you haven't watched it in a while everything that's building up to serve surveys plan going into action. And a lot of just like the little things little looks like the way that king, Tom and looks at himself in the mirror at one point. He just looked so scared, and you know, where he's about to go or the little ark. I think for for Marjorie, you know, her final arc of the of the. The series in this episode of her not winning against sir c but at least the show allowing her the dignity of being right in her final moments. There's just so much here. That's that's so rich and so good. And that's just the first sequence. Once we get past that there's still so much great material. Not the least of which is the fact that deniro star, Gary and finally set sail for west coast. So yeah, this is a stellar episode of the show for sure. Okay. All right. So let's go through all of it. The final game of thrones episode of season six before we had towards season seven, and it's sir sees day in court. I love how we open with the bell tolling. And then we see that bell later on in the explosion, just, you know, bouncing down to the study. Well, it's appropriate to considering the bells association with these days. The shame shame. Shame of it. All and here she is about to commit her greatest sin yet. So to have the bell in such prominent fashion as an audio and visual cue of her of her madness. That's about to rain down upon all of our enemies is a really spectacular writing Joyce. Yeah. Really fantastic. We are bouncing around seeing, sir. C Tomen the high Sparrow Marjorie. Everybody's getting ready for the big day. Yeah. And we're hearing piano for the first time in game of thrones history and Rummy Jody's score. This is a new layer of the score that is making its way in here. This piece of music that he wrote for this episode. I think it's pretty clear we. His favorite his favorite piece that he's written for game of thrones think outside of the main theme of game of thrones. And potentially the reins of cast Amir, I think that this is probably the most iconic piece of music to come out of the drama, and it's really just making everything so haunting, and it's so chilling, and certainly on retrospect, you know, what's coming. But I think that even in the in the moment of watching the episode play out. I think that it really helps build that feeling of just a real chilling atmosphere this haunting or that, you know, something awful is about to happen. You just don't quite know exactly what it's going to be anything in particular about why peon male. I think it really just helps to underscore the severity of the moment that things are about to radically shift. This is such a power shift. What happens here? What sir Syed? Does sir. C wipes out all of the enemy is that she has had from the past several. Seasons in one fell swoop. I mean is still out there. She hasn't met her yet. Santa's in the north. She's really far out of reach Tyrian is who knows where as far as is concerned, but the most pressing foes of the day since the beginning of season five through this point, and with Marjorie certainly going back a little bit earlier here, they are all just roasted alive for sir c to enjoy as she is going to be able to clear the decks to seize the thing that she has wanted for so long, which is absolute power. And I think that it the piano really helps to differentiate this as an incredibly monumental distinct moment in the history of not just west roast. But but game of thrones as as a franchise that this is a massive turning point for where we are barreling towards in the in the final stretch of the show, obviously all eyes are on the white walkers of it all and wondering how that's going to resolve. As all of the human force on the board are mostly rally. Together. But it's easy to forget that like, sir. She didn't say yes to that pact by the end of season seven she's still has an eye on betraying John's, no Indonesia's target Garin. And I think she's going to be a major spoiler in the final season of the shows. I think having something that is just so distinctive. Here's something that's going to be so memorable with with the tickling of the keys of the piano. I think is really tickling out our interest for where this show is going to be moving forward. Okay. How do you want to go through this montage? I mean, it really begins with, sir. See is getting ready. She's getting dressed in the moment. You think that she's getting ready for her Dane court because you see so many other people are getting ready as well. Tom is getting dressed Marjorie is getting dressed, the high Sparrow is getting dressed people are going to start showing up to the sept- of Baylor. And he's not gonna show up servcies not gonna go. So why is social why is she getting dressed no show? Recaps. Why is he? Why is she getting all dressed up in her fanciest gear? And it's because she's about to get Dave drunk and have the best view in town of the most atrocious act of war that we have seen in quite a long time on this show per potentially ever certainly since the red wedding. I think so it's it's just great as we are. We are really surveying everybody and the montage really kind of takes a turn. Once we are finally in the septum bay or the music chills out a little bit. They start getting into the trial of Laura's and everything and Laura's is going to be the guy who's really pretty quickly. There doesn't need to be a trial. I'm I'm done you've add me rotting away for so long that I'm really ready to just sign on for anything that you need me to sign on for the Laura's thing is interesting. So what was the plan? Here was I mean, was Laura's being genuine that? Hey, I really. I'm going to turn over a new leaf was he just telling them whatever they wanted to hear. So that he could just get out and then still potentially live his life. How he wanted to you know? Beyond the what the high Sparrow was knowing what he was doing. I think at the very least Marjorie didn't expect that he was going to have a big cross carved into his forehead that seems to really a surprise to her seems like a shock for everybody. But I mean, he says it to Marjorie earlier in the season. I believe it was earlier in the season where he's like, I will say anything, please. Can we just be done with this? I can't be in here anymore. I'm ready to to move on. And I think that Marjorie is plan here at the very least is to is to get Laura's clear. Get Loris out of there, maybe him being in charge of high garden is something that she can work towards if she's able to continue fostering her relationship with the highest Sparrow, but for immediate moment, I think it's like clearing her family from any like true danger with the faith militant and the highest Sparrow and re seizing her claim over the iron throne alongside Tom and. Dealing with the problem. I think she's very confident going into this day thinking that services days are numbered. And once is off the board. Things will move a lot easier for Marjorie, and whatever she's not able to solve for her brother this day. She may be able to solve in a future date where you also see Maistre pice sell in the mix. Here may survey cell with a woman of the night here in his courters. He gets intercepted by some of the little birds. Yeah. The little birds are the little birds are up to no good looming long. Really? They absolutely are. And I think that that's we talked about this at the time. I'm sure but the little birds are a big part of pie cells demise in in the books as well. Done a little bit differently than than we get here. But a cool throwback to that nonetheless. Okay. And so we see Tom in. He is also ready to go, but he is stopped here by the star of the super bowl's hottest commercial the mountain. I can't believe that Bud Light signed on to allow the mountain to give the red viper treatment the blue night like the blue. Knight return for a future commercial or is the blue. Knight toast, now Gili Gili. Get a kid. Nothing further. Your Bud Light of the seven notes, no trial necessary. That's amazing. That was a good fake out on Super Bowl commercial. Absolutely. Very very good. Yeah. So yeah. The mountain not letting Tom in out of his sight won't let them go. I mean, you would think that Tom in would have gotten there earlier. It seems like that Tom is arriving very late to the proceedings. Yeah. But he's the king unless we're not seeing things in like the simultaneously happening where he's waiting for mother and mother's going slow. So it's not necessarily his fault. Maybe he is. He was going with her to the preceding that's not being track of time. You know, I don't know was Marjorie still in the custody of the high. Sparrow, no. You'd maybe think that Marjorie would have gotten Tom into to show up on time. But yeah, I think for the sake of our sanity, perhaps it's best to just think about this. In like vary. Strict chronological order. Okay. All right. So. We see Marjorie starts servcies not here. What's going on? Yeah. She's nervous. She's nervous about this. And rightly so she you know, she finds out from land. So that sir sees litter has never has not left the red keep the highest Barra says, oh, the Queen Mother doesn't want to attend her own trial, and at the at the outset of this like, it seems like the highest pair is very confident that like, oh, well that was a stupid move on servcies parts of she's just going to get carried here against her will, and that's just going to look very bad for her trial. But this is why I'm alternately satisfied with the way that Marjorie story. And I think that we have made breaking bad comparisons in the past. I don't wanna go to deep into spoilers on at different show. But there's a very famous rivalry on breaking bad that I think that the search and Marjorie rivalry kind of draws some easy comparisons toward where it's these two. Oh, really smart shrewd strategists in the in the game of thrones are competing against each other. They're competing at a level where only one of them will be able to walk away. And at the very least in the case of the, sir. C and Marjorie battle Marjorie is able to deduce before anybody else. Okay. Something really awful is happening here, and we're falling into a trap. And it's not her fault that the trap can't be on sprung. She just could not anticipate the level of cruelty to search here and beyond that, she has no physical power over the faith militant and the stubbornness of the highest barrow. But she's at least given the opportunity on the show to express that like she has figured out that there is a reason sir is not here. She has the great line where she talks about searching understands the consequences of her not being here. But she's not here. Anyway, which means she does not intend to suffer those consequences. And I think that they've really honor Margaret reduction. Yeah, they honor her intelligence in this final scene. She's. Really a great anchoring point in in this really spectacular sequence. I really like the way that they read her out here. Also, she is not happy. It seems like that the high Sparrow has been a little extra in terms of what they talked about four Loris in terms of she feels like the U mutilated him. What do you mean? I just gave him like a cool new like tattoo. We don't like the star symbol like what are you trying to tell me? Yeah. Okay. We see pice sell meet up with Khyber. Yes. He meets with Khyber and simultaneously to all of this is really where like the little birds are starting to come into focus where cell is going to go, and he's going to meet with Maistre hibernate, and he's going to be destroyed by a flock of birds while Lance Alanna stir simultaneously is chasing a little boy. One of the spies down the tunnels underneath the sept- of beore, but to focus on the final scene of grand Maistre pice sell. He's going to show up. He's going to be confronted by Khyber n-. And who's always been very dismissive of Khyber n- has always really talked down to Khyber n- or about Khyber and whenever he's not around. He really does not like this guy. Khyber and in his own way. Here is really trying to be like I'm sorry about this. This is not my preferred move, but we have to execute you. We have to assure in a new era we need to take out the old. And I'm really sorry. You don't you don't deserve to die this way. And I guess you could you could read it as this is like torturing pie sell one last time coming up with like a real great come up against this guy who's been so rude to him. But I kind of read it as like in his own twisted imagination. Like, he does like genuinely feel bad about what he's about to do to sell and that just speaks so poorly of macer Khyber n- like that. He is just like such a such a little psychopath that twisted little individual that for him. Like, this expression of remorse is like enough to like kind of absolve him here. Either way this is the last stand of grand Maistre pie cell and the show does not allow us to to hear one last part. But you can imagine that it's there he did not have a. Great exit. Where seems like that he was not giving the woman in his quarters the money. She had earned. Hard to feel too bad for pie sell. It's it's really violent. I'd forgotten just like how how absolutely vicious his death is where like he's just getting stabby stabby stabby by so many knives. And the camera really lingers on his basis, he's just like gargling up the blood. They really don't let him off easily on the show. He doesn't get off easy. We never find out with buy-sell what his deal was just like generally what his. When I always go back to that scene from the first season where he's able to leap out of bed, and we're sort of implies that he is he has something to hide and he's not who he says he is. But we never get that. We never get that enter. Yeah. I think it's just like he prefers to be underestimated. He probably has better access to information. If everybody thinks he's just kind of senile fool, we never get the payoff to that. You know, not really not not really I think that I in terms of all the mysteries that are on the board on game of through that one scene is like not canon where. Yeah. Every everything else. Really? Would you know, he's all like only presented as like this doddering fool the rest of the series except for that one scene. Well, I think it kind of it plays into the characterization of pice L is very opportunistic and really all about self preservation. And even though he seems like a really fierce Lancaster loyalist for a while. And it seems like, sir. See kind of pushes him away across the arc of seasons for and more more more. So in five I would say in six that really stops. His closeness to sir. See I think that even then like his closeness to sir c was always about him just assuming that the Lancasters would always be in power. And then he's able to kind of shift focus once it's clear that is not going to be the winning ticket, at least in his mind. So I think that the the flexibility like the variety of pie cell that he keeps hidden from everybody else. I think that that sort of helps to enforce that narrative of he's just he's just. Another one of these phonies in king's landing just one of these one of these people who is not what he appears to be is not who he says he is hiding secrets not that. There are any kind of major secrets that are going to have impact on the grander scheme of game of thrones. But I think it helps reinforce the idea that the people that you're encountering at the at the capital of this kingdom that they're all vipers in some way, shape or form. They don't all have to be read. Okay. So pizza pie cell, and we see Lance. Oh as he's continuing to chase one of these birds and. He's going to also get an injury. He gets shanked his well, his his his more just like a done in one enough to drop them into to get him into a really weakened state of not enough to kill him outright. The wildfire is going to have to do the rest of the job. Now, this is a dangerous game that they play here with with Lance. All right. Oh, yeah. I mean landfill gets within what maybe five seconds away from being able to you know, thwart this whole thing. This kid really almost bungles the job. You know, I I really hope that he's demanded at least one sweet for the way that this goes, right? I mean, if Lance is able to get over there, and I don't know how you necessarily disarm this bomb, or if there were other things like it's like, okay. This was just a mess with landfill. And there's really another candle. That's you know, a minute later is going to go off. They have other ways of detonating all this. But I mean that they leave him in this tunnel. And how do they know like how fast he can crawl? They don't they don't. But man gives us a great opportunity to hear some some sweet organ music coming in as landfills own. Oregon's are probably at least slightly injured. It's it's just good television. I think I think to to pull on it too much is to is to undo a beautiful moment. You're the I know nine. Oh god. No get out of here. Talking about undoing beautiful moment. Sorry. That being said so landfills going to start to work his way down the hallway. Meanwhile, Marjorie that the alarm bells are really going off for her. She that we gotta get outta here. That's it. We gotta go with this this places doomed. Yeah. No, it's great. And this is where she goes to the highest baron. It's like really trying to plead the case of like, this is not good services. Not here Tomlin's not here. Why do you think they're not here because we are in grave danger that trial can wait we need to leave and high. Sparrow, is really just like whatever. And I think this is so great. I I really think that they do such a good job resolving these two arcs, especially I think the highest Sparrow who is he is. He's so arrogant in his faith and his blind faith to these powers that be an allowing him to just feel like I have all the answers. I know everything just trust me. And Marjorie finally letting the the act wear off for a moment where the long play that she's going for here also matters less than the trial the trial and the gamut that she's been polling here with the with the highest barrow, those are things that can be resolved that future date. It's not going to matter much if they're all about to be executed, which is seriously beginning to suspect is about to happen. And of course, she's right? It's just great. It's really genius the way that they pull it off. I actually am very very happy with the ultimate Margery Tyrell arc. They do such a good job here. Okay. Lance gets closer and closer as Marjorie is trying to get her and Loris out. But the guards will not let the Tyrrells out. Yeah. I love how she just like scoops up Laura's who so out of it at this point. He's just he's so toasted already at this point, even before he's like, literally toast, and I just love that moment. Laura. Stay with me when when Margie's looking. Her brother like, it's not just that they're giving to credit her intelligence, but they're also giving credit to how much she loves her family. How much she's trying to fight for her family here? And it's just it's too little too late. There's nothing she can do when the might of the faith. Militant is there. You just can't push past that in a moment of desperation like this. No, you cannot and ultimately LANCELOT is going to get close close close, but not close enough because this place is going to blow. Yeah. We get the we get the big explosion. This is what brands sawn his vision? Just a couple of episodes back. We see the green wildfire. Igniting? We hear the trembling of something coming to the bay or inside the sept-, and we have the perspective of Marjorie who now know something happening and high Sparrow, especially who it's really dawning upon him. Like, wait what's going on? And the the show. Does us the kindness of not having to watch Ma. Marjorie specifically get incinerated in wildfire and do the imagining for ourselves the highest Sparrow does not get off quite as lucky. We do. Get to see him go up in green flames. The whole sept- gets destroyed. It's flattened like a pancake. The bell is flung into the middle of the city at squashes some poor guy before his remains are charged by wildfire and all the while circus just watching from a distance and just the dough look on Lena heads basis, she plays this part, really amazing really mazing. She just like chugged, some wine and just watch the fireworks gray reaction from, sir. C to all of this. This is her great moment of triumph. Right. Like this. This is the most triumphant seriously, Lancaster, we have ever seen. She's pleased. She's pleased. She does not even flinch. She's not even like a good long. Like, let me drink my wine here. Let me save her this. Yeah. Like all. I mean, it really it's just like. She's she's just she it doesn't matter. How many like innocent lives are lost in the process? So many people have just been killed all to kill just a precious few. I think in her mind are there any in this and lives, probably just like the commoners? But I think that she doesn't speak or think too highly of them anymore. I think shame in her mind. I feel like they're gonna pay. Also, you know, I think that that's part of this where you know, all all those people are going to die too. Good. Yeah. Yeah. I think so or at the very least like the great show of power. I think is really all that she needs. You know, as she's planning what's going to happen next. I mean, we're never really going to have a clear answer of what she thought was going to happen next. I mean, she doesn't imagine the Tom and is going gonna throw himself to his death in a couple of minutes. So she got imagine that she thinks that she's just going to still be kind of whispering and her sons eras. He's the king. So you just you never really know exactly what she thought was going to happen next. I think that given that she's going to end up on the throne that this is a move that. She is happy to have under her belt that she'll be able to lean into this is like, okay. Well, now, they know not to with me. Okay. So sir goes from this. She ends up a leaving to attend to other business. We see the mountain walkaway from Tom and leave him on attended. He's got another job to do the mountain. Yeah. We need him versus seriously may have wanted to time this one out a little bit better. I think that servcies first order of business probably ought to have been like going immediately to Tom, and it'd be like yo what happened. This crazy guy is at the very least maybe he's going to go run into the burning building. Right. Right. But at the very least he's going to be like very upset over what just happened. You would imagine that it's going to be hard. Not to notice that the sept- of Baylor was destroyed. So you would think that maybe she wants to be there to pick up her son when he falls emotionally. Not not quite so do you feel like that Thoman knows instantly that his mother is behind this? Yeah. I would guess so. Right. Like, I mean, otherwise, I don't think that he would do what he ends up doing. I mean, maybe not. I mean, the other possibility could be that he doesn't know. And like he also thinks that she's been destroyed as well. And he's kind of like everybody's gone now, I just need to kill myself. But I don't think that it's as dramatically powerful. I think it's more powerful dramatically if Tom in does what he does thinking that his mother was responsible for it. And I think that he has reason to believe that that's the case certainly with the mountain preventing him from leaving. I don't think that he's I think he's smart enough to figure out why it's together of LA. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Makes sense except nila somehow was missing from the proceedings you think of the highest Sparrow was like a hold on. Where's where's Annella do this without Annella? She's key person in all these proceedings. Shame. No us too excited. To just get this thing going should have been more patient. It's not like Annella for to sleep in. She's never missed one of these things a key cog in the sparrows. She was sick that day. Maybe maybe she phoned in and that she couldn't come any at the flu septa flu Noah. And so sir c stands over her. And she's going to great monologue here. Talks about how she does things because they feel good. If it feels good do it. That's motto, you know, and that's not a bad way to live your life to a point. Like be kind to yourself. You know, you want to you want to do things that make you feel good. But I think the part that services leaving out that people should probably pay more attention to like you want to feel good, but not at the expense of other people feeling good. Like if you're feeling good makes everybody feel really dead. Then probably that's not a feel good strategy that you should be adopting. No, probably not. And so she goes through the whole thing about everything. She does it. And it feels good to confess about all these things that she's doing. And then she feels because it talk about how she killed the high. Sparrow, it feels good to be with Jamie. So septa. Septa in LA is not thrilled about this development. Yeah. And also, sexist you just got like all of this wine port on her face and everything. So on top of everything else has got to be like, really sticky. So just like physically very uncomfortable. Right. And it stay then. Yeah. Give me a shower after. I think that's in the car house. And then sir c. Tells that. Hey, remember, I said that I'd be the last person that you saw when you were going to die something else as good fine. That's fine. With me that I'm ready to get outs. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know about that not going to die today. That's going to be a while. And we could spare some of the details of what he has planned for the mountain to do. Now. Do you think through the end of season seven things septa now is alive or dead? I think they're keeping that go. You know, I don't know if the mountain is. I think he's got one speed that guy. I think he only knows how to to hurt people. I don't think that there's he's the type of torturer that can really stretch things out. Yeah. I don't I don't like separately. Noah's odds right now. Now, I I would be genuinely shocked if we ever saw her again on game of thrones very shocked. I would say Serio for L has a better shot of turning up in the final season than septa Ella. Yeah. I think that's probably a safe bet. Yeah. I mean, he's not showing up. So. If one of them is showing I would say Serio for L over septa. And now, I think that this is the end of this story went for sure. Okay. Another storyline is about to end as Tom in is going to go out the window. Yeah. Peace out, Tom. And that's the end for young dean, Charles Chapman time on game of thrones. Unless season eight has room for another character that he could play third time's the charm. Yes. A couple of good runs. I tomorrow in the Lancaster. Marae? Maybe maybe Marty could return. Jumped out the window. But then those flying DeLorean caught him. Yeah. Joe's on just a mess with old biff, Mr Brown. To leave here. This is a serious up. So was serious. Tom. Tom is gone. Josh Thomond has gone. I'm very sad to see Tom and go once again, I really I really liked that character David they do a really good job of psychologically, brutalizing this poor boy before his death the series really paints time it into a few difficult corners, and then they leave him painted in several corners. It's not good. It's a tough ending for the poor, man. Okay. We go from Tom in to Walter fray. Celebrating a big party up the twins. Yeah. The or throwing a raider at the twins because they're so psyched that the river run situation is unraveled and the land stir and fray alliance forever. Alliance is going to be assisting forever. Walder is co opting. The the Lancaster House words as the new word. For house fray. How Jamie feels about that? Yeah. He doesn't love it. He doesn't love it. He's not impressed with hanging out with Walter Frei. It seems interesting on a rewatch because Jamie and Bron are going to be getting drunk in the corner a little bit eating their dinner, Jamie. Seems unhappy Braun is like gonna be telling Jamie like all stop being like such a such a little jerk. You know, this is a great day for you look that handmade and over there. She's into you. We know that that handmade and is not into Jamie win stir. We know that that handmade and is secretly are stark with different face. We also know that this handmaiden is not only going to kill throw a term we around Josh. Because I think that we've long you are much smarter and much more tapped in than I am. And so this you're informing me on this stuff. So I did not make the connection that the women that were eyeing Jamie and Braun was actually the. The girl that aria is pretending to be later on in the episode. Well, one of them is the first one, that's really sizing, Jamie. And Bryan saying like, oh, you're just you're Jamie, Lance or everyone wants to be with you that girl is looking at Jamie because she's aria stark looking at Jamie, Lancaster, who you would take that she'd want to kill. And so it makes me wonder why why don't you just let them go? You know, why not come out? She hadn't had any direct interaction with Jamie, Lancaster. And maybe of Jamie, Lancaster, ends up getting off here. Then it makes it harder for her to complete our mission. Also, Jamie's going to storm out of the castle after this conversation with Walter Frei. So maybe that was in the cards potentially like Janney leaves? Yeah. I like it here. I'm going to hang out here for a couple more nights. It seems like he's all right. I'm done here. Yeah. Okay. I'll buy that. It's good if he's stuck around long enough. She would've gone. Yeah. Probably true. Yeah. But no, I did not. I did not catch that. Yeah. Well, there you go. The new every day. But if something that or or maybe I knew it, and I forgot that's also very so such a detail oriented episode little on series. So yeah. But a Walter fray and Jamie have a conversation. I actually really did like this conversation. We're Walter Frei sort of like, patting himself on the back and Jamie is like, yeah, you're you're awesome. And walled afraid like picks up on his sarcasm say, oh, go ahead. Mock me feel. Both king slayers you, and I yeah, we're kings slayers that toys mocked me forever. The Starks mocked me. And where they now, buddy. Yeah. You know, you can make fun of meal you want. But all my enemies are gone fear is his weapon he doesn't need to be a sort of fighter. He wields fear like a weapon and Jamie is quick to counter that it's not you that they feel they fear me. They fear us. They fear the Lancasters. We gave you the river lands to hold the ripple ends we've to ride north and take them back for you. Every time you lose them. Why do we need you? So he leaves Walter fray in the wind there with that real decisive argument of the Lancasters over the phrase every day of the week. Okay. So we ended up going back to Khyber n-. He has Tomlin's body. They're searching makes a KAI burn show. Her the body. She wants to see I think at this point. She, you know, she's pretty it's hard to know exactly where she is at this point. Because I think it takes somebody to you have to have really gone pretty far off the deep end too. To have like just so casually done what she had done earlier in the day that the sort of stone faced nece that she exhibits are not in the gray scale sense over her son. Like, I think really solidifies just how far gone she is at this point. But I think also when you think back to the evolution of, sir. C losing her children and the reactions that she conveyed over the course of the three different deaths like with Joffrey, she has him in her arms as he's dying. And she is obviously a wreck on the day of the purple wedding. She's very very sad losing her daughter when she sees her daughter, and she's talking to Jamie about thinking about what's going to happen to her body now. And here she is confronted with the third and final loss. And she's kind of just like put them on the fire. You know, just he should be with everybody else is ashes should just be with the the other ashes stone cold. Yeah. He's his grandfather. That's crazy. Servcies just like all the way in at this point. Yes. Terrifying. Stuff. This is a terrifying person to consider considering she really hasn't changed much since this moment in the seven episodes. We still have yet to talk about with the final six episodes. Also, still on the board that sir. See the certainty that we see in this episode if anything is just like thinking about being worse than she's been at this point. So this is a horrifying once you've broken bad. Josh he knows she's gone. Eisenberg, very scary. I one. All right. So salmon Guilio here in the episode, and you know, we've had a lot of exciting stuff happened. So far. We're going to see the city for the first time. That's cool. Right. Like, that's fun. That's fine. We're going to see the white ravens and stuff. Like, that's nice. And so Sam in Gilly era. They've reached old town and they're going to show up and Sam I have an appointment. They were the masters were expecting me. Yeah. It's a wonder what's the exact phrasing? Since this is a regular the Maistre who's the clerk. Yes. The sentinels and your name. And and you are sorry. All of the Maistre cz are busy right now. Can you take a seat? Yeah. But he lets he went salmon Gillian to the library at least. So they can they can go and they can read some books while they wait. I mean, this has to be at the very least the coolest waiting room and all of west rose. Yes. Cool library, lots of things from the comics. Yes. Geli can wait until she can't read anyway, and the baby could cry you got to stay quiet in the library. She can read she's learned how to read write like she's gonna get that sweet radar tour garren eventually learns as you just starting to learn how to read she's starting starting. This would be a great place to learn more though. Yeah. Okay. So John at winter fell that he's going to check in with Mel, Sandra. Yeah. He's kind of walking around the hall, and he's like, oh mo-, Sandra. It's so crazy that I'm the I'm the men in charge. I used to used to sit in the in the nose bleeds. And now I'm going to be at the head of the table could be worse. At least you we had a feast is you got to be be Zillow's here. Davos storms in hard to imagine that this is the first time that Davos and mental Sandra were able to have a chat. Who knows how far removed from battle of the bastards. We are Davos was in the thick of the fight at the time. Yeah. But he like barges in like I've been looking for you everywhere was probably on a very long walk relieving himself where no one could hear him as he was getting ready for a battle. Okay. Okay. And he throws the stag statuette Mela, Sandra and says. Williams anything that John says what's that? And then I was like tell him tell them what it is. I'm just like. Ooh busted. I'm in trouble. Should she like, I don't I don't know what this is? I have no idea. What is that? It's a toy. I don't play with toys. Five hundred year old adult. Yeah. She just kind of owns it. Pretty quickly burned the Princess serene at the stake is it. But but I only did it because Lord told me to write so not that big of a deal. It's a big deal for Davos too, big deal for Davos, it's going to be a big deal for John snow as well considering he's got that. You know, what are they called a moral compass? Yes. Yes. The phrase because she's like, no we had to do it. We had to do it and things were things were dire. And her father and mother, they knew we had to do it. And that was like for what what did that do? Nothing happened. They died. They all died. You killed them for nothing. You lied under says I didn't lie. I was wrong. That's a good line. I'm going to save that. Yeah. Yeah. That could that could I was I was just wrong. Yeah. I got it wrong. I you know, I wasn't trying to be deceptive. It was just a total misread of the situation. I don't know. What's worse? But either way Dallas is not satisfied. He wants blood blood for blood an eye for an eye. John is not willing to to give it to Davos. He's he's going to at least allow Mela Sandra to leave with her life shades of Giora more money here. Danny enjoy more months sending away John is going to do the same thing. Just get outta here. Don't come back. And if you do then we're going to hang you. Yeah. It's not going to be good. So you should go. Okay. All right. So out goes Mela Sandro. Yeah. And today, we have not seen Mela Sandra in Davos in the same room together. Again, Mela Sandra is at least partly responsible for generis and John snow hanging out. So we're going to see her around dragon stone very briefly next season. But this is close to the final Mela, Sandra. That we've gotten. She's very barely in season seven. So yeah, the is still to be written. Where does she she just shows up on on dragon style? And she shows up to hang out with generics. Vic? Oh, you're you're really cool. Guess what else is really cool. Jon snow, and I think the two of you are gonna do great. Use your call them with us. And like I. Reason for saying hand can't double booked. All right. So John goes from one conversation with with red hair to another. He's going to go check in with Sansa. And it says he's they're kind of like big Oshii hitting like who gets bought and winner fell as you can have mom's room, you're gonna pump and dad's room like yours. Yeah. I'm good. Yeah. All right. So they're talking about the battle of the bastards. How you say it? So that was that I have to say that you got the knights of the veil to come. That was pretty awesome. That was good. That was pretty good. Well, I should've told you really made no reason, no censoring, not tell you. But I guess it all worked out. Yeah. Jones, Barry forgiving, you know. Like, it's like everyone's been talking about this on the internet for a week already. Anyway, let's just get over that star Yar passed that stuff we just need to trust each other. We can't fight a war amongst ourselves too, many enemies now, so the two of them are back on the same page at this point. Yes. But they got a memo from the citadel. Windows. Yeah. I mean, does that seem backwards that the the Maistre is at the citadel need to tell winter fell when it's winter. Yeah. But I think it winter bones like always winter. So you can't really judge the seasons of west rose by how wintry it is in winter fell or winter fills default. But if it's snowing in old town, it's like this is not a place where it should be snowing. Unless it looks like it was snowing in old town that was like a little tiny bit. Maybe maybe it was just like the wind chill had maybe get a light jacket. Yeah. And I guess you got to let them Starks. No. As soon as it is winter because they're the ones I doing my winter's coming. So they wanna be the first one like, yeah. We know. We know we've been telling you for generations. Okay. Let's go from the winter to wear it's always summer enduring. Mercifully? It's a very quick scene in Dorn. And it's got some lady lenna in it and a tiny bit of various. So how bad can it be this asked to be a top seen in Dorn? Yeah. Maybe the best during solo bar. It's a low bar, and so yeah. So we see the sand snakes and Larry's sand talking with Lydia lenna, and what they want is the same thing. Vengeance injustice. Vengeance injustice just to. Brianna? Various like shows up from this Abbas, fire and blood moon by Georgia mountain should not be out if the winds of winter is not out yet. Right. It's weird embarrass. Yeah. No. He's just there. You know, he's hanging out. The only other a real good thing from this scene is lady Olenin just like shading all the sand snakes. She's roasting them Barra. Says something like trying to get under the Queen of thorns is skin. And she's just like what's your name mccan Barbro? It's barra. Komo navarine. That's fun. Okay. Make an angry little boy. Josh it's sick by Dario fine by me. Oh, big Dario. Stan, you know, what I liked Dario? But he's getting in the way of my OTP. You know, what I have to say for Dario? What's the? The Dario high watermark. What's the best Dario moment in the series? And is it even with this Dario yet the pants drop? Yeah. That's it. That's the one. That's the Dr air is probably the high point of Dario Dario is the is the best Dario moment of the show. It's a great moment. I enjoy the moment. I think when he throws the knife at the champion of marine. That's pretty good. And I think when he bashes the guy's head in with a rock is pretty good as well. Yeah. I feel like it might be when old Dario shows up with the other two guys from these second sons heads in a duffel bag that was pretty cool as well. It's just so odd because Dario changes so dramatically. Yes. That could be the high point for Dari on the show. I'm not a big Dario guy. Yeah. Well, I think it's because they had to recast him. And so it's hard to ever feel like really settled with Dario. It's just so unusual. It's like, I there's so many characters from the books that they didn't bring in in the first place that they feel the need to recast Dario altogether. Rather than like find some way to fill the Dario void with a different character. You know what? I mean, if the guy's not gonna come back and say Dario died offscreen in here's Mario. And he's second in command. The princess. It's a be hotter. That would be great. That would be fine. You know, plumber the plumber saves the day. Sure. Okay. So Dario is getting pumped up fights. It's all happening. We're going to do this. And so you're not coming. You'll stay you'll stay sorry. Even the second sons. You got you gotta hang tight. You gotta make sure that everything stays nice, and peaceful here in marine and Dario is is bummed about this. He's like, I love you. How am I ever gonna follow up being in love with the Queen? This is terrible. Whoa. Is me. I want to be in the invasion. No yourself you stay marine. Yeah. Oh, I don't know. Why Dario just became Lucille ball? But. Yeah. In with it. It's like it's like he can't go. He can't be in the show. Yeah. You're staying behind. You gotta go to hill house. Yeah. So you were you work on it. And he's like, well what I could be like your concubine. No. Yeah. I like that from Dario though, at the very least it's like, I'm totally fine to be your your hot booty call like I don't need to be anything else. Like, I don't have any ego. I'm not gonna get jealous. You could be with whoever you need to be with. I just really wanna hang out. Yeah. I got that. That's great. But. I never told you this. But you really forcing in my hand here. It's your breath Dario trust say, oh, the dwarfs told these us. Yeah. Is is very clever. Ken argue with the logic. I am not of use to you over there. And he's like from a strategic standpoint is that God damn it? I get it. It's so annoying. But I get it. Yeah. He takes takes a well. He does. Okay. Does. I do I do like that exchange. Where is like who comes after you who can ever follow deniro storm? Born in the mother of dragons, and Danny says a great number of women. I imagine. Yes. And we're going to rename slavers bay bay of dragons. Yeah. And it's a great name considering some people consider it generis the bay of drag. How about that? Yeah. Okay. All right. Farewell dario. And that's it. That's a wrap on Dario. I would say Dario is likelier to appear in the final season then Serio much but not by a ton ton by done. All right. And then we see Tyrian in deniro's talking about this all this like Tyrians, like the best friend in the romantic comedy here. Yeah. And like if you take Peter Dinka ges word at it. He's he's feeling like, you know, always a bridesmaid never O'Brien about it. Peter Dinka just talked about how he thinks that Tyrian is in love with generis. And I wonder if that's going to manifest in the final season at all. I think it's something that the very least watch out for in their interactions together. And I think that is seen like the way that he talks to her. He does like there is a little bit of that quality of how he himself is kind of drawn to her. Yeah. So the fact that he is falling for her. Does that up the? Chances of he's related to her probably, right? Okay. Okay. So, but it's great. I love this this moment where Tyrian says like how crazy is it that this is happening? It's actually happening. We're leaving. Hey, you've only been waiting for this for two seasons. Tyrian? Yeah. I mean, yet, it is crazy. Welcome to the party, dude. And so you got your ships yet dragons, your armies everything you wanted. You've got it. All it's home about to happen. He's still not consoling. Her scenarios is still upset because she's she's not thrilled that she had dumped Dario. She gets it. And she feels like she'll probably be fine dot she's not happy. She felt very impatient. To get on with it with Dario. And so she's like berry wake self critical. Yeah. It seems like that. She's a she's like bummed out. Like, yeah. I just dumped him, and I don't even care. Right. Feeling. Exactly. I think that that's just kind of where she's at with all of this. She's just like, I don't know. It's like when you're depressions, a weird thing man like you can be in a really successful position and things are really going well for your career, but you just still like Bill kind of empty net sort of what's happening with Danny here. She's like I untied the marines. Not. I just made an alliance at the great joys. And I got a whole bunch of ships. I'm finally going into west rose. I feel nothing. It's very relatable. Honestly. All right. That's all I've got why are you planning an invasion? Thinking about it. Yeah. Danny has a present for Tyrian that she has a pin to make him the hand of the Queen OT Q. They're going steady. She has pinned Tyrian, and he's very touched by the gesture he is now the hand of the Queen, and he kneels, and it's it's great. I mean, redemption for Tyrian at this point in his mind, I'm sure he feels like he is on that path of like, I finally have some purpose again, and it's nice to see Tyrian in this mode after what a low he was in at the start of season five, and I think that his his work and season six a little stronger than we had given him credit for on the distance that we had had from the airing of season six I still think that there's probably like the Castro. Iraq plan is a big whiff. But maybe we should be a little kinder interested mation of Tyrian. Hey, maybe we'll see something when we watch it and see maybe it wasn't as bad as we thought. You know, we're getting close we'll find out. All right. So let's go back to Walder fray. And that he is getting some food brought to him by this. Nice handmaiden. Yeah. Who happens to be wait for it? I stock and she has murdered a whole bunch of phrase and grinded them up and put them in pies. I don't know how she knows to peel back like this specific corner of puff pastry and reveal like thumb. Yeah. Like, she likes the high high attract. Yeah. Maybe he seems that little extra the I'm gonna kill some guys. And then I'm gonna turn them into food than on a certain because I like, this is Walter fray Eden eat a bite of what she serving or the he's already been eating it. And she brings him more. No. Maybe it's that she is, you know, getting other phrase to eat each other. So there's some pleasure there. But yet, you would think that at the very least you would allow Walder to eat some fray pie before she. She kills him. This is another Easter egg from the books where there's a the the great character Wyman mannerly who is very briefly in this episode, but not in any kind of memory. Away really really fun character in the book, and it's speculated that he who is pretending to be in league with the phrase, or at least like lightly aligned with the phrase ends up just like murdering a bunch of them and turning them into pies. So they gave that to aria here. It doesn't really hold up, especially well under scrutiny. I don't think like the either way how did she physically do this? Or if you want to just accept it just we'll just go with it. But if you accept that she could physically do it. Then at the very least like this is a real indictment of where aria is psychologically like, this is a very messed up thing to be doing to other human. Is it possible is possible that you know, she killed them. And then just stuck a finger in a pie, and that the whole pies not fray, I you know, what I hope that's correct? And just for for the sake of Mike. Our our continued peace with aria stark. But I've feeling there's a lot more fraying those pieces of pie. Okay. So she pills that back, and she says, hey, my name is are stark. And the last thing you're going to see is a stark smiling down on you as you die. Yeah. Straight to steer Goi. It's the end of Abraham subtraction. Aka Walter fray, he is finally toasted. But it is not the end of David Bradley's time on game of thrones one four one more run. Although the whole fray pie thing is still less gross than anything that ever happened on the strain. God I'm still thinking about when the Rockstars thing. Have got it was awful struggle. Got here. All right. Santa in little finger are going to have a moment. They are she's gonna be in the gods. Would you know? Just really quickly just to go back to the aria thing real fast. I really do feel like this does not bode well for me in terms of feeling like Arias gonna make it out of game of thrones. And part of that is because shrill showing off in the killing of Walter Frei like she's really stopping down to enjoy the murdering of one of the longest held enemies on her list. I feel like that's the kind of thing that's really going the surfer poorly in the future. If she ever tries to like, go up against Lancaster. And she basically does like the vigilante equivalent of monologue ING making her move like that's going to give somebody the opening the take her out. I wonder if something like that is in our area speech that she's going to try and do something kind of flashy, and she's going to get burnt for it. As possible. Yeah. A red. Viper it up and it never works out for people. And just because she's already a stark. Is it going to always work out for aria as it does here or she going to really come to regret that like that's a real cautionary tale as you say the red viper one. So. Scared. Okay. Okay. So Sanson little finger their talks. All right Sansa and little finger going to talk about I was watching bohemian rhapsody the other day with my wife. She's like who is that his little finger. Oh, yeah. A little fingers in it, isn't he? Yeah. There is I haven't I haven't seen it yet. Okay. Also mister robot is in that mode, you'd another Christian Slater is. Yes. I didn't know. Okay. So then little finger and Sansa talking and. Sansa? She's talking about how. It's more little finger. It's not gonna creepy stuff about that. He has a vision. He's got a vision. He wants a vision board. Yes. Yes. He every time he closes his eyes. He sees himself on the iron throne with Santa at his side. And he tries to kiss Santa. And Santa's like, yeah. No. We've done this before. And I'm not really feeling it. And this may be should be like an early sign for a little finger that his his Minu. She's not into your way. Yeah. It's just really not happening. Oh, you'll see? We'll shay. No, no, no, no, no, not really. But we're we're now in the we're really into the little finger descent at this point. Right at the bottom. Very close. Don't tell me that my plan is bad and land. It's not a good plan. Not a great my. Okay. She's like a well. Look I've declared for how stark. Yeah. For all the world to see. Senses. Probably like, I think ultimately, you know. Thank you. But why probably a bad call for you. Thank you next. Yeah. Yes. Absolutely. That is genuinely what's going to be happening here. Right. They will have a moment later on the episode. Yeah. They'll have like a little bit of a look because they gotta give Sansa little something to do next season. But FRANZ purposes this is done. Okay. We're gonna go beyond the wall called hands is here and Benjamin year. I was here for a minute. Now. I gotta go away. Again, you know that line off for the for the people who really needed the Benjamins cold hands thing. So. Yeah came by. Okay. So he's still in the battle. But brand needs to log into the treat your net. Really quick. Yes. He's going to plug in. He's the three eyed raven now he needs to finish processing everything that the originals Riyadh raven was trying to hook them up with and mirror wonders, if he's ready for this brand says, I gotta be ready. I'm the three eyed raven. Why why? Now, why why log into the treat your net. Now. Like, why not like, okay? Well, let's we're almost at castle. Black. Let's you know, there's going to be other. We're would trees on the other side. Let's just let's just get past the wall. You guys are still chasing us, right? Presumably. Yeah. Well, like well season finale. Yeah. That's what I was going to say it's like it's the season. Finale. He was left with like a real cliffhanger when he was downloading all the Intel before he just wants to finish the episode. Yeah. I think you're on the end of your commute. And you know that like you probably don't quite have enough time to finish. Watching. What it is. You're watching without missing your stop. So you get off your your bus or train, or whatever you pull up a little bit till like a corner of the station. You're like I'm just gonna finish watching this right here before I go home because I really want to see what happens and that's tower trae, so he was a cliffhanger. He needs to see what's going to end solution. Let's go back to the tower of joy to diddly tuned. Didn't. Marae? It's actually our joy, he you know, he's like he screams at his dad is dad turns on the joy being in that tower. Almond always joy that joke, by the way. This is a great one, really great. So he goes up, and he files his dad and his dad goes into the room and Liana is there, and we all know what's happening here. This is the fulfillment of decades of fan theories about what happened at the tower of joy, it is the it is the confirmation of the worst kept secret in game of thrones Lor that leeann stark is John snow's Mata. Yes. And so that we see the baby very well behaved baby. Yeah. Really, great baby. John snow? Here's a chill kid from the jump. Yeah. Yeah. Liana tells net I've missed you big brother something you've never said. Never literally. Yeah. Yeah. So she's not doing good. She's in some say a bed of blood yet bad. She's really she's not doing. Well. She's she's clearly going to die net is frantic. Can we call them Maistre? There's nothing amazed. Her can do Liana is on her way out. She understands this and she is going to make Ned promise to protect her child. Promise me, Ned promise me in. This was the these were the haunting words that fouled Ned stark through his adulthood through his final days on earth or planet owes if you prefer. Yes, thank you. Yes. And it's it's all very emotional. And the music is soaring underneath the moment. And the camera goes to the baby's face and zooming in on the baby's face. And then we cut to winter fell on the camera zooming out of John snow's face and millions of game of thrones fans across the world. Their minds are melting in this moment. Yes. And Jon snow is that baby. He's the baby the baby with power. Yes. Okay. So we have a big meeting, and these meetings could go either way on game of thrones. And so people are shouting out. Yon Royce saying like, we're not gonna work with Wild Wings. Yeah. We don't know. We don't feel good about this Wilding thing. We keep hearing terrible stuff about wild things. Why are we talking about wild things right now? Yeah. And then the wildlands alike, we hear that the knights of the veil or stupid. Stephanie what they say. For. Oh, yeah. Yawn roy's. Yeah. And so there is one voice in the room that is calling for unity, and that is Liana more Mont. Who is so awesome? So great. Oh, she's great. She's great. I was gonna refused. The cone you swallow each. It's to how stock in our need you refuse to go screening how Starks calls ignore. But I've been listening in with the FaceTime hack, and I've I've I've been team stark all the way through. Yes. She's a real firebrand fresh young voice in the north. That's just fine. Yeah. The the politics that she's a fresh voice that everybody can get behind. Sure. Sure. Sure. Absolutely. Absolutely. Really got a lot of bold ideas. People say, she's she's a two out there. Yeah. Liana Mormons Twitter game. You don't wanna come after her on and instrument one. You don't want to underestimate her. She'll she'll cut you down. Yes. And so she's like, hey, look that. That Ned Stark's blood runs through his veins. Look I was four when he died mid start. But I hear he's awesome. So that's good enough for me. Yeah. Yeah. So she's going to back. John snow and everybody is going to get on team. Jon snow pretty quickly. You're again, the Afrin mention Weimin mannerly is going to be showing up here in very lame version of the character from the book he's gonna pledge his allegiance to John's. No calling him the white wolf, which is cool. Cool branding. I think for John. Yeah. House Glover is going to be on board. Yeah. I love the way that Lord Glover just gives like the big uproar years about. Okay. It's been a while since we've had a really good full-throated king in the north chance. So this is satisfying moment for nobody's we're doing this. Again, we're doing it again just wanna make you just want to make clear not a drill. There's natural doing the whole king in the north thing. Again, everyone's thrilled to do it. They're like man it's been so long in the show. So great when we're shouting king in the north. So let's just do it for the rest of the episode here. What could go wrong nothing? Yeah. Definitely nothing. Sansa and little finger have like a little luck. Like like, you believe this like their passing you over. That's right for you. You should have listened to me in chances. Like, I'll entertain it firms all out. I don't think about okay. Meanwhile, Jamie is approaching king's landing and. Sees some not good stuff. Yeah. We're in the final movement of the episode now, it's basically an extended montage where we're kind of taking stock of where the three leaders are heading into the final or the penultimate season rather of game of thrones. There's the king and the north decoration than we cut to king's landing were Jamie shows up, and he sees the coronation of, sir. C Lancaster he gets to watch his sister become Queen and his having to play catch up on all of the horrible things that must have happened to build to this moment. And so Jamie, doesn't know what's wrong. But he is going to say all right. We gotta go gotta go. Check it out. Meanwhile, sir, see is going to be heading into the red keep and it looks like that she's going to be named the new protector of the realm. Yes. She's gonna be she's going to be in charge, sir. See the house Lancaster. I heard name Queen of the animals and the first men protector of the seven kingdoms long may she reign? It's an everyone is like very like just on board with it pretty quickly. Everyone else's is here. The long may she? Yeah. Nobody's like, wait. Hold on isn't. She under indictment for people. Like, this should all these scandals. Like, no, she's Queen of the handles. Okay. Handles its andled now. Yeah. So she's in charge. She and Jamie exchange, a look and Jami like his spider. Senses tingling is isn't good. Right. Right. And like really ever is like sir city like should we should we do a king's mood like, no, no, no. That's very boring. Yeah. She's the only person that's that is a Lancaster or any or or any high born person that's alive. So it's a king Ralph situation just allow it just allow I think any other move. We're going to be very upset. Did you ever see king Ralph? No, I never saw king Ralph the John Goodman is like a it's like a sole survivor. Was I think he was at the no the what's the Kiefer Sutherland show where he was the president designated designated survivor. Yeah. Like, John Goodman was like the one millionth in line to the British throne. And then all of the the high born British people like died taking a family portrait. And this was John Goodman at the height of his powers in during the run of Roseanne had a movie, and he was the king of England. Wow. Check it out that they'll ever do king. Ralph designated survivor crossover. Dan, running a shared could it be a shared universe? Maybe maybe we'll see how the Connors workout. But Josh law may see rain Queen earthy green Sirsi. She's in charge. Meanwhile, another Queen is making her way across the narrow sea finally take on services. We see too narrow is leaving Esso's behind and finally looking to make landfall on west road. Yeah. Boy, they got those tar Garin sales made up pretty quick. That was pretty fast Varis in the Queen of thorns and Alaria sand and all of that like that whole meeting took place in various was able to get right back to marine in time to to be on the main boat like that feels like he didn't really need to do that that happened. Up in someplace. Seems like a commute that you don't want to do unless you really have to enlist various is a is a boat guy is just an under reported story much like how it's under reported dark likes blackberries. I have no idea. Under reported. So is there like a Dornoch fleet that needed to be brought in to move of the doth Raqi? I didn't think so. But maybe maybe because I kind of feel like all right? Well, we'll meet you at dragon stone. That's the move. I agree. Yeah. So okay. Well, you know, if we have you ever have a chance to interview Benny often Weiss put that on the list of questions. I'll definitely consider it. But at all, but in consideration on the wheel. Yeah. I may break the wheel. Okay. And the dragons are flying. And that's it. That's a wrap for season six season six in the books. One season left to go in winter was here until we're in the final six episodes of game of thrones. That's crazy. Yeah. We're in the grand game now. Oh my goodness. It's a great game or in the great game now. Yeah. But it's it's granted to create and grant. So well, this was very fun today. I love this episode. This is great. It really does. Hold up. It's nice to know that those those final two episodes of season six really are as great as as as their disgust people really are very hyperbolic in their praise for those final episodes, myself included, and I really do still stand by that a lot of season six let me down. I thought that there were a lot more lows than I expected, but it does end with two real highs in these final two episodes. So let's just talk about the season as a whole I think that in our minds season six oh that's a good season. Really thrown to be that for eight episodes. It's probably a week season. And then we reach, you know, really high highs in nine and ten so how'd you come down on the season? Overall. Is it a sum of the parts or does the end justify its means. You know, I think if you're just like tearing through it really quickly, Mike if you're to sit down with the with the sixth season of game of thrones and binge it in fairly short order. I think a lot of those low points probably are are less harmful. But I think when you're going week by week, and you're having more time to spend with those moments and think about them a little more before moving onto the next thing. At least for me, they stand out a little bit more. So having having not watched it all in just like a single trunk. I don't have that take handy. I wonder if I would enjoy season six more. But as I have been surprised by certain attributes of game of thrones along the way here. Namely that I liked season five a lot more than I remembered liking season five once again here, I am with sort of the inverse of that where I like season six lot less than I remembered liking season six but having said that these final two episodes really are tremendous the hounds little tiny arc is really really fun as well. The twist of the door is really great even if that episode otherwise is kind of bad actually, not very good. And it goes to where you stand on as you've put it weak- is a D rank an episode based on like, it's big lights out moment. If it has like a real blockbuster moment that you remember or is an episode only as good as its worst scene. I'm not entirely sure where I fall on that. But I think that season six for me, which I would have thought of very highly in terms of the late stage game of thrones. I'm thinking a little less highly leaving it other than the fact that the final two episodes really are just about as good as game at there. Ever gets. Yeah. I think that when you go back in watch a season of television or you've been just season. I think that the ending means a lot. So I think it's probably better to have it this way where you have some low points along the way, but finished strong as opposed to wear, you know, you had high points along the way, but then finish on sorta like down or forgettable note. So I think that ideally you'd love to be strong the whole way throat, but if you have to pick this is not a bad way to go. So I'm very excited to get into the penultimate season of game of thrones have not rewatch to any of season seven since season seven went off the air like I haven't really even revisited scenes from season seven. So I know it's the season that we've most recently podcast about in terms of it being live on the air. But we have now gone through all of game of thrones. Except for this final penultimate run. Where we left off as we picked up winter was here. So this is an exciting moment. And it's it's exciting for for that reason. But it's also exciting in that. It's it's really signaling that here we are. We're we're really right up against it. Like, this is really the final push towards the final stretch of game of thrones. This show is about to end. You know, we've got we've got seven episodes to talk about before we're talking about brand new episodes of TV in the real time of the recording of this think we've got nine weeks to go until the final season premiers. This is an exciting time to be game of thrones fan. I didn't for whatever reason I didn't expect to be quite as amped up as I'm feeling heading into this last little run. But this is exciting. This is very exciting moment for us. This is a culmination right now, how do you compare sort of like the pre final season hype to where you were going into the final episodes of lost? Oh, good question. I'm I mean, it's it's similar like a little less passionate probably because loss biz lost was my baby loss was my baby. John snow? So I was really really emotionally attached to lost in a way that I've never quite gotten with game of thrones. But I think as as far as like a modern television event, it's a very good parallel where I think everybody walked into that final season of loss being like, all right? Can they do it can they can they tie this thing together? And your mileage may vary on whether or not they were able to. But I think it's. Similar story here with game of thrones. Where it's like, okay. Here we go only only six episodes left to tell this whole to tell this whole story in who's going to be on the iron throne. And is there going to be an iron throne and millions of people are on the edge of their seats wanting to know, the answer, and thankfully, we don't have to start really answering the questions for a few more weeks yet. I'm not like quite ready to process. The fact that game of thrones is about to be over. But I'm very excited to get into the process of getting right to that moment in re-litigating everything from season seven, I think is going to be a good time. And I also think it's going to be easier for game of thrones to stick the landing pun intended of these final episodes because one you presume that you know, if whatever Georgia are Martins, and that he had in mind sort of like, they know where they're getting to. And there's really that they don't have to scientifically try to explain any of these mysteries or phenomenon. There was magic it was magic. And is this really like, you know, big battles killing people and think that you could have a satisfying ending, even if it's not necessarily a happy one. Yeah. I think with game of thrones just to compare it again to lost is. I think you're exactly right where I think a lot of like the hype going into the final season is can they answer off these big picture. Was the island, right? Right. And with game of thrones. It's a lot more character driven in in terms of like the way that the story has been presented. I think ultimately for loss that was the case as well. But I think four game of thrones like in their in their cards up universe. It's really never been about like unraveling like a bigger picture mystery. There may be something where like we get a completely different spin on the white walkers that we would never even considering that could be very cool if they go there, hopefully, it wouldn't be mid chlorine level of reveal. But I think that really what you're looking for in the final season of game of thrones. Is who lives who dies the people who live where do they end up the people who die how do they die? And I think, you know, just as long as the answers to those questions are true to the characters in the circumstances. I think it'll be it'll be an easier landing. Then some of these other shows that have had harder times bringing things in for for their final run. But ending a huge show like. This is a difficult difficult task for for just about everybody. I mean, even when you think about like, the greatest shows of all time, most of them, not all of them. But many of them really are looked at as like having kind of like achey final seasons at least like a little bit thorny. So you got to wonder if game of thrones is going to be able to escape that. Or if they're going to be able to get off a little cleaner. All right. Josh wig, ler pleasure covering all of this today with you and all of season six as we move into season. Seven can you give the listeners a real quick a little tease of of the stuff that you're doing on HR right now to get pumped for the final season? Yeah. I mean, we're we're talking about our final predictions along the way here in winter is here, and I'm also jotting them down on paper for or I guess it's not technically paper unless you're printing out the articles, which is kind of a waste of resources. But you do where we're making our final predictions in a series. We've been calling final path on. Game of thrones. Where once a week, I'm taking one main character from game of thrones and looking back on their journey and also looking ahead at where I think things might wind up for that person. So a fischel predictions for what's going to happen to John snow official prediction for what's going to happen to generis for all of these characters. I'm making that happen over at T H R dot com slash game of thrones. Having a lot of fun writing that column so give it a read. I'd appreciate it. All right. Follow at Ron Howard. I'm at Rochester New. No, check out our Star Trek discovery coverage as well. Take everybody. Good one by.

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Game of Thrones Re-Watch | Season 7, Ep #1: Dragonstone

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"Winter was here. But we are just getting started on the game of thrones rewatch of the season seven premiere dragon stone. And now here the two guys who are packed together. To talk about Ed Sheeran, again, I am Rochester. Here's Josh Wigley. Josh hammer, you got it feels like only a year and a half since we last talked about Ed Sheeran on game of thrones. Our you I totally forgot that this was the edge sheer episode. And then I heard that song. It's like come on. This is. Ed Sheeran's cold. Yeah. It's great. It's great Ed Sheeran on game of thrones. I'm here for it. All over again. Seems so out of place. It's really really really jarring. Yeah. Is he really does not belong in west rose at all? But hey, you know, not the only famous cameo on game of thrones this season. We're also going to have four himself guests show. That was good. Yeah. That was good. I liked that one. But I really would have loved to have just seen like the hound decapitate. Ed sheeran. Listen, one of these scenes, we still have six episodes of game of thrones to go on season seven is done. Who knows maybe Ed Sheeran? We'll be a casualty of the inevitable gain Bill. That could be good, right? Okay. So that would be exciting to get to that. We're only one season away here. We are season seven premiere. Josh do you like that? I love that. I'm very happy about that. So after we finished discussing the winds of winter shortly afterward, I started watching dragon sewn just kind of get ahead of the game. And I then snowballed into a full binge-watch of season seven of game of thrones. I haven't revisited any of this material since it was on the air. And once I started watching I had a hard time stopping I just had to keep going, and I have to say for me this season that I think gets criticized quite a quite a bunch like there's a lot of travel by map that's going on a lot of fast forwarding and Yarra Yar yarn through stuff getting from dragon stone to the wall and a single episode beyond the wall and a single episode in back. It's a lot. If you're the type of person that's going to get really hung up on those details, I understand why that's going to stick in your craw. But for me these. Seven episodes of game of thrones are really not boring at all there's a lot that's going on in just about every single episode of this season character interactions that you've been waiting forever for is a little bit. You know, like Hollywood is as opposed to what you may have gotten. If this was a faithful adaptation of whatever Georgia Martin would have written at this point, probably. But it's still really fun. It plays like a big giant movie. And I think more than ever especially re watching these seven episodes in one chunk. I do feel more and more that we're talking already about the first half of the final season that season seven and eight are supposed to be taken as one big season. And this really plays like act one if the to act now. Okay, I agree with all that. I don't have anybody ever accused the season seven of being boring is that a common criticism? I think about boring I think that it's more than it's like it's a little bit of that. I hate boring a little bit of a hot mess is the accusation. At the storytelling a little bit sloppy. That might not be totally wrong. But I think that I'm at the point with game of thrones. That maybe I don't care that much. Maybe what I care about mostly as are the character moments going to be satisfying the dialogue going to be fun or the set pieces. Going to be dazzling are the the Maddox going to be strong, and if the storytelling a little bit yada, yada. Get us remain upbeat Z. I think I'm mostly okay with that at this point. Okay. Josh I wanna stop down before we get into our coverage of the season seven premiere. We had a bit of game of thrones news this week that really got a lot of play that the show runners Benny often Weiss confirmed a big piece of news about the show. Man is out of the bag on something. God rest in peace, sir, pounds, the show runners have confirmed the death of sir pounds, the cat died off screen surpass is no more in a scene that they have claimed was so graphic and horrible that they could not include in the actual version of game of thrones. This was confirmed in an interview with Entertainment Weekly and further confirmed by the owned by HBO's own Twitter account. They said RIP surmount s- and as the great e w reporter James Hibberd who's fantastic with all the game of thrones scoops as he reported himself. He said and meow. His watch has ended. Surpasses? No more. That's it. But just this was a joke. Right. I think so I don't know this Scott reported as I got an alert on my phone. My my phone beeped and something and I want to check it wasn't something that was written by you. That's happened. I've gotten alert on my phone of something that's with dead cats. No more dead yet. For me in the end. I got an alert on my phone this. And it sounds like they're joking around. I think that it's a joke. I don't think that there's actually a deleted scene with surpasses death at sir sees hands anywhere lying around on the editing room floor. I think it's just a gag. I think that they just don't want to have to answer questions about surpass ever again, though. I don't know who is really asking Benny often Weiss questions about serpents because they are not easy to get access to. And if you do get access to them in an interview, very privileged position to be able to burn a question on surpassed. I do not believe that I would have such a luxury. So yeah, I think that this is a throwaway. But now, we should just consider it canon that surpass is dead and never think about surpasses fate ever. By the way, just ask one. Final question is, sir. Pants a book. Character is it possible that in the winds of winter? Yeah. There could be a completely different fate for, sir. Pants. That's what. Right. So. Yeah. So just wait another forty years, and there may be different outcome for everybody's favorite cat of the seven kingdoms or see what I was really hoping was maybe they were going to say that aria killed sir pounds. So that aria could put on surpasses face at some point in the final season. And that would be like really closing the loop on aria chasing cats back in season. One in like, the all the dragon skeletons and stuff in over listening on on various and his buddy going through the basement and the king's landing and she's chasing, the cat that maybe she can sneak back into king's landing disguised as sir outs. That's what I would like to see in the in the final six episodes of game of thrones. But I think that we're done unsurpassed. I don't think that that's going to happen. When I write my final paths predictions for aria stark. I'm actually actually I was going to say I'm not going to put the surpass thing and there, but I'm now actually totally gone. To put this thing in there. Why couldn't bending why just say that he was a shipped off to search Schrodinger? Yeah. We don't know that way he could have existed and not existed at the same time. Okay. All right. Let's talk about the season seven premiere, and we have called open winter's coming. So you need a cold open. It's a cold open to launch us into the penultimate season of game of thrones. And it's a scene where lots of people are killed. You love this seem it was it was really fun to watch this you, and I were watching this in person we were at the premiere in Los Angeles. This. Brought the house dad everyone loved this. This was great. This is a great moment. Yeah. Because we know Walter phrase dead. So we thought something is up from the start. And so here's Walder fray. And he is toasting all of the fray men with some wine. Forget that Dornoch wine Arbor gold proper wind for proper heroes. Walder fray will not waste any good wine on woman. Yeah. And Walter Frei who knew is a white wine guy. He likes his white wine instead of instead of the red. Well, what did they have for dinner was at fish now? Maybe they had they had. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they're celebrating the victory over river run. Right. So now, it's now it's trout from river run all the time. And I won't even bother asking. Do they have the same rules of pairing white wine with the fish on planet os or got an earth? Custom. I won't even bother with their go there. We don't eat too. In so Walder phrase toasting to the men that helped me slaughter the Starks. Yeah. It's a great speech. It's very in character for Walter fray ARA, I wonder how much time are you had spent at the twins before she killed Walter Frei studying his mannerisms and just like how does he speak, and what are his ways and his customs before she killed him into his face because she does a really great Walter frame pression. Obviously looks the part. But really just like the whole thing down. Completely like, attitude wise, it's very good. I mean, this could be another thing to really get into the weeds with. But when you. You know, wear the face like, do you get the voice also there's some weird stuff that's happening with the face this season. Like there's going to be the scene later in the season where Santa just like fines Walder phrase base mask in Arias stuff. We're gonna have a lot of questions a lot of questions about about. How the faceless men stuff works, and I'm afraid no good answer. Because we've talked about the height difference. Also. Yeah, there's a lot of a lot of these magic that. We don't have to be able to understand, you know, I really wish that there was like a deleted scene where you see are. But a mask on. And then you watch what the transformation looks like her like like grow in size become like a little Hunchback in the case of a Walter Frei that work. All right. So we see the the fray men are starting to choke poison. They're all they're all in big trouble. While Walder fray like stops, the Walter fray speech and now get getting her aria this. She says, oh, yeah. You butchered a pregnant woman, you cut the throat of a mother of five years should have slaughtered, all the stocks, root and stem. Yeah. Then everyone's joking and Arias is very lucky that none of the phrase have quit drinking that none of them are just like sober driving. I was driving tonight. Yeah. Like, everyone's a lush. And so she's able to get them all just in in one shot with one well well placed stash of Arbor goal. It was a toast. So I guess everybody had to. If you're know you're not a big drinker. I think everybody that's at least like hold up the Cup and drink. And so are you says leave one wolf alive and the sheep or never safe? I mean, technically the phrase left several of the wolves alive. Yeah. Many wolves not many wolves. There's not a lot of left in the Bryant. No one knows where aria is. I think she's presumed dead at that point Brandon Rick honor presumed dead at that point John's a bastard, they're not counting for him and Zana's accounted for at this point in king's landing. So all right, aria unmasks. And then tells the the woman there, what would you say her job is she's a conservative? I would know tickets is that's his wife. I'm pretty sure that water phrase wife, like his newest bride pretty sure that that's going on here. All right says when people ask you what happened here, tell them that the north remembers tell them winter came for house fray. And so we're done and we smash into the into the credits. And it is it is it is a helluva way to launch the penultimate season of game of thrones with a big round of aria stark branded vengeance. And it's it's a fun scene. But the there's a lot of weird things going on in it as well. Feel like to to really stop down. And think about we already did like, the are you like actually like butchered these people and turned them into pies? Like just the mechanics of how how this all went down. Not to think about. Yeah. I think there's a point of diminishing returns with the more. You think about it? The worst you're gonna like it. Yeah. So just enjoy it that fun. Everybody dead's to be my attitude towards this towards this season over. Okay. All right. Let's go beyond the wall. And we get a shot of the night. King army is marching. Yeah. And we see that giant that has the one blue eye. And I think that there was a lot of people wondering if that's one one the giant. I don't think that really makes sense because one one died at winter fells how that would work, and I think for us to say that all giants with one I must be one that giant. I think would be unfair to the to the collective group of giants that must be out there beyond the wall. But this a cool scene because we know that this is basically the way that the season is going to end like this prediction that that brand is having like seeing. The army if the dead marching forward is really going to mirror that final shot in the season seven finale of the dead marching down through the wall, this clever clever instance of it's not quite book ending because we have the Arias seen as the cold open. But as the first proper post title sequence scene of the episode. This is a nice way of setting where the whole season is going to end. Okay. Josh we see Mira and brand they are at the wall. And they get Ed open up the gate. Let us in lettuce and mirror is speaking on behalf of herself. And Brandon saying this is brand stark. This is Ned stark, son. You gotta let us through. And it's like, I have no idea why should believe that. Like what what what proof? Do you have show me some identification? Your name is Ed you were at the fist of the first man, you were at heart home you seen army of the debt you're friends with John snow you seen the night king. What else do you wanna? No, you don't brush your teeth before you go to bed. Okay. All right Zadar. Dr. So they let them in. And then that's it. That's we don't see them. Again. Brand must have he's a wealth of information. If you're ever look into blackmail, somebody in in west rose, these days all the dirty information dirty secrets that he's going to be able to have at this point. It's a tremendous now that he can see everything he knows everything Brad stark. Okay. All right. Jon snow is having another meeting of everybody, and we picked this up right where we left off in the season six finale, lots of lots of big meetings going on here at winter fell. Do you think that this is the same exact meeting think like they've left the chamber yet or this is like immediately post crowning of the king and the north? I think it's another day the long meeting. Yeah. That'd be a really long time. At least you hope that they had a lunch break. Yeah. Trying to think of how much time has passed because you know. I mean this things like like Danny has sailed all the way to dragon stones. I kind of feel like that. Sometime this past that everything that we see in the episode is happening at the same exact time. But you think it's close time is a very strange cream with season. Very very fluid. Yeah. Okay. So how big meeting John is talking about dragon glass, we need dragon glass dragon glasses key because they know that that's going to work against white walkers. And they know the white walkers coming so wherever we can get dragon glass that's going to be a material. Yeah. But Jonathan has a we he's like a we need to find it. We need to mind it. I'm well where we mining dragon glass from it's a very specific thing. As though he has been told by some clandestine writer that mining for dragon glasses going to be a key part of his political position in a few episodes from now everybody aged ten to sixty will drill daily with spears pikes Boeing air where where we drill. Yeah. Baby drill for dragon glass wherever you can find it. It's like I said man, I feel John snow. He's he's a hero. And he's a doer. And like, he's great on the battlefield. But the command decisions sometimes requires some some finesse literally just like just drill into the ground. For dragon stone seems like or dragon glassy, and it's like a bad plan. But you got another plan. He wants the women getting ready to fight also. And so we see Robert Glover saying what you want my granddaughter to fight and Leon more Mont is going to give him a piece of her mind. Yeah. Leanna more basically stands up and just like squint, sir is at Robert Reverend says haven't you done enough just shut up rob it as a Robert how do you feel about rob it as a name like knowing that that could potentially no could not exist in any? You were else. Other than the George r Martin verse Robert sister, Nino just does not have the same ring to it. Rock lovers sister. Nino. I'm just saying you guys thinking about a third. That's a good name. Okay dame. Josh there is some talk about what are we going to do with the numbers in the car starts now that they they betrayed how stark what do we do? We're gonna take knock their castles down like Jahn Royce wants to do. Or will we give them to somebody else? Like Santa wants to do yon. Royce has a lot of opinions yon Royce has a lot to say about customs in the north like he doesn't wanna be like working with Wild Wings. You're from the veil shut up, and this is not your turf, go back to sleep Yod. Yeah. And why OB? Yeah. Yeah. It's just not whatever. Oh, there's also doesn't before we even get into any of this doesn't Johnson torment and the Wild Wings to staff east watch by C. Yes, you guys not only have. I let Wild Wings through the wall. But I'm now giving you an entire castle on the wall to defend and there's some controversy over a choice like this. But I think John's no at this point must be like, look, I already died for this thing. Once if I die again for the same thing, it's just Tuesday. Just physicists, usually. Yeah. He's got a bold agenda. John snow, bold agenda. So yeah. So from their everyone's kind of like, whatever and Termine has some pithy remark of really shoving it and the northerner space that he's now going to be king of the castle on the wall. And this is where we start to get into. All right. So what are we going to do at the IRS and the car starts because they betrayed you. They came after you, they were responsible for your brother staff, they were team Ramsey all the way, even Sansa, you know, she's she's kind of giving giving John the advice of like, I think we probably are going to need those castles that they are that they that were their homes before I think just like unilaterally wipe out the families is probably not a great idea. Yeah. Sansa is of very argumentative with John here in front of everybody, and John is kinda like in the next scene. Like like why you have to say that in front of everybody. Yeah. She. Saying like, we need the castle's. But these families broke faith, we should be giving these castles to people that supported us. And she's I guess making the argument like I don't care that these young kids are here their parents fought for being terrible. And now they're going to have to suffer the consequences. Israeli man. Yeah. I feel like that's very harsh. I think that Sansa at this stage. She's learned a lot about how to roll she's going to say later in the season that she's a very slow learner. But I do learn, and I think maybe part of the ark. For Santa is. She herself is learning. How to be a little more flexible and not just having to like just by custom. And just by the political alliance with the veil like giving them a freebie for coming in and saving them in like giving them some new castles to hold onto that. There may be something to the way that John runs his ship, which is more of the Ned stark tradition of like honor binds us to to these people. We should give them another chance. These kids. Did nothing wrong. Santa's going to pick up a little bit more of that along the way, probably in the final six episodes of game of thrones. But right now they are positioned against each other. And it's a little contentious yet. And I think that it's a central theme of the show as we go back through seven. Seasons of this of they can you rule by love that you have people your subjects love you so much that they listen to you or must you rule through fear that people are so afraid of you that they do what you say. And I think that this is a again, we've seen every single ruler on the show sort of struggling with that debate of too much in one direction or the other and John Sansa are fighting over this very subject. Yeah. I think that you know, whatever the end point of game of thrones is going to be imagine somewhere along the way the idea will be the happy medium wins out. What is that perfect formula does that perfect formula exist, or is it just going to be history's going to repeat itself, and it's much generis targe area and wants to break the wheel is the wheel unbreakable. So alternately John is going to call up a couple of young people in the court. Nah. Humber and Alice car stark, and they are going to swear loyalty to the Starks. Yeah. Ned analysis. Great pair look forward to their successor show. I think that's going to be a good spinoff. That's alice. According to these character notes A L Y S Alice L, Y S Alice Alice in number land sounds like a great great show waiting to be made. Okay. Well, my mind that alongside the dragon glass, but yeah, John like he really wins them over. He makes a really big appeal for Ned analysis. Everybody seems to be on board vizo ruling by love working out for John snow in. This instance, got imagine like it's got to be like a little bit of like Ali guilt. Feeding this right. Maybe I shouldn't have just like hanged a kid. Maybe if I'd give the kid a little bit of a shot. Maybe that would have been the right thing to do. Maybe there's a little bit of residual Ali guilt playing out here. We'll John talks about how that he is on his watch. He's not going to have children suffer for the sins of their fathers, which I do think that the medically ties into that. John's father did some not so great stuff along the way. So that is a good rule the biological his biological. Yeah. So that he was a good dude is grandfather on the other hand was a real peo- s was he radar? Great guy. There was no gray area there. There's a little bit of gray. But he seemed like he was mostly pretty loved guy. And then when means let's not ask the Dornoch how great of a guy regar- was the doors. Yeah. Maybe maybe. Wouldn't be super pumped about the way that he swept in and took on a different wife, and that's a little awkward and a little strange, and I don't know that everybody was a big fan of that. But outside of that move. I think that he's traditionally fairly well like these his bit a lump located an artist. Yeah. Yeah. So sins of the father should not be punished for John snow. Yeah. I think that that's a big theme, especially as we're working our way to the to the final run of the show where we're going to see a lot of people who have long traditions of their families not getting along. These people are now going to be forced to work together. And are they going to be able to rise above those differences? I think is going to be one of the one of the big questions that game of thrones hasta answer in its in its attempt to wrap this thing up, so John and Sansa have a little walk and talk after the meeting and still pretty contentious. And John is saying like, I really wish you. Didn't call me on front of everybody. She's like, oh, you are like a real Joffrey everything do everything you say, he's a fairly Joffrey. Yeah. Comparing John to Joffrey is a stretch. Yeah. She's like, you're right. Yeah. You're not you're you're nothing like Jaffrey. Like, I'm sorry. That was a reach. That was. Yeah. So they get back on the same page. And ultimately that you're good at this. You're pretty good at this is like. No, stop it. John starts laughing because he knows that. She's buttering them up for something. Yeah. There's a but coming, and we know from Ned stark that everything before the word, but is a horse shy. Yes horse. Indeed Sansa never heard that one. I guess Ned stark had a potty mouth when the girls weren't around is what John says I would love to see like dead stark uncensored stand up. I think would be probably terrible. Actually, I can't imagine you is even unfiltered that funny guy. But the, but is basically saying like, listen, you gotta be smarter than dad, you gotta be smarter than rob. They were fantastic. I loved them dearly. They both got beheaded brutally by their enemies. I don't want that to be yards died once. Yeah. And you're lucky that you got to keep your head. That was you died in a good way. Yeah. You just got stabbed in the heart. It was pretty quick got like father, God tortured in a dungeon for weeks and then beheaded in front of his kids. Yeah. And then rob got beheaded and had a wolf head stitched onto his he wasn't alive for graphics. Not good at. All right. A raven is here, and it's from, sir. C and sir. Sees says. Okay. Jon snow you need to report to king's landing immediately at bend the knee. It's another bend the knee. Leonard John's like wire people only contacting me when they want me to bend the knee. Why doesn't anyone just check into see how I'm doing? I'm feeling. Yeah. Right. How how my friends are. What's new? He's being summoned to king's landing and Santa saying, hey, guess what? Not a great idea, sir. Mr. is terrifying. You do not want to get into Lancaster business. Yeah. What is John considering going there? I thought he's like, you know, put it in the pile. We got other stuff to worry about. She's basically saying like we're going to have to figure out the situation. This is a this is a scenario that we're going to have to deal with. I know that night king is a bad deal. But you you do not know, sir. The way that I know Sirsi, and if we completely ignore the problem, we're going to be in big trouble. Eventually, I think that that's instructive to us as well. Certainly we know that the story line isn't going to go away. But she's going to end this season in a way where she is not on board with the fight against the white Walker. She's still very firmly against John snow generis. And I think that's going to be totally right. Like, I wouldn't be surprised if the conflict with the night king in the whitewater. Actually ends earlier than we expect traditionally going into the show in that like the final conflict would be against the Lancasters against Santa's. Warning. Here's going to prove to be pretty prophetic. It does seem like that. Most of the focus of the protagonists is focused on the night king, and sir see sort of just left to her own devices in king's landing. Yeah. And I think that's like you can imagine that being a big part of like the idea of game of thrones. Sweet. We all got together, and we defeated global warming. Oh, just kidding. We're not able to defeat global warming because there is still this one faction that is just refusing to do the things that are necessary, and that's going to be right. Like that's gonna be the spoiler. And then they're going to have to deal with that. And maybe they're not going to be able to deal with that. Like, maybe that's the bitter part of the bittersweet ending that George are Martin has pitched maybe there is a universe stirs, the winner of this thing, and it's just a very nightmarish future that west rose has to deal with. Yes. Do you think that she? Holds up the beheaded head of sir pants, and then puts it on us. At the end. This is very triggering for me. Sorry. This is horrible. I can't believe we have a dead cat and our game of thrones midst right now, just leave me alone. I'm getting over it. Please. It's too much. All right. Sean accuses Santa like uh sounds like that you love, sir. Sounds like she's your hero. Ooh. Somebody loves sir c sentences. I learned a lot from sir c. Yeah. And then we go to search herself. Yeah. And somewhere between Tom in becoming paste on the ground, and sir c assuming the crown, sir. See herself has created some some some art artwork for the ground a mural where it has the entirety of west rose laid out. She just loves like poke around here and make plans Kennedy, call them mural on the ground or a mural only on a wall, it's like a floor mural floor mural, flew, Royal. Let's see. The mural painting or other work of art. Execute directly on a wall. Well, I mean, depending on your perspective can't the ground be a wall. Like, if you're somehow able to walk on walls, and now the wall becomes the ground. Yeah. Or is this like English in west rest? And are we getting really lost? And I don't know. I think it's still a mural. I think we're I think we're still okay. Yeah. And so they're having this whole thing painted, and I'm never really sure for what purpose other than foresee to dramatically be able to say that as enemies to the east enemies to the south and east west and enemies to the north. I think it's just like it's this is your situation room. Right. Like, you know, they've got one in dragon stone where the table that's carved out like west rose. And now serves he's got one of her own and hers bigger, and she can walk around it and play fun games on it. I would bet. Yes, sir. See is telling James. Amy some updates? She gets a lot of great Intel as the protector of the realm. And she says, hey Tyrian is now the hand of the Queen. Yeah. Upgrade? Yeah. So that's not good. And remember you let him free. So he could kill dad. Yeah. Thanks for that. That was really great that you did that. Yeah. Really really helpful thing that you did. So they're they're a little concerned about that. They're trying to wake arc out. What narratives burst move is going to be now that they're prepping for war against the dragon Queen, and they figure the dragon Queen is likely to land on dragon stone, which is mostly abandoned. You would think because the Barath Younes all. Picked up their their stuff and headed north to defend the wall. And then try and fight the battle at winter phone, they all died. So they figured dragging sewn makes sense. It's got the target area and family connection to and we have the talking about all of the enemies abound and amused to the east and the south to the of the west the north while we need are better allies, we need allies we need people to to help us out. It's very big cast here on game of thrones. And yet somehow nobody wants to play ball with us this talking about how they need to start a new dynasty and JBC for what we have our kids are dead. We have nothing Dennis Steve whom? Yeah. I just like the way they say didn't STI. Yeah. Going back to Taiwan. I think that's how they always say. It's just like Lancaster pronuncia. Yeah. It's it's just a. Cool way to say dynasty, right? We know that we're going to have the, sir. See pregnancy storyline here in season seven as well. He added that hasn't come up yet. I take it. That's a couple of episodes on. Moment. But it's but it's on the horizon. Yeah. So I think that that ideas on the mind of the show is it's a really fair question for the characters themselves to be asking. It's like, hey, why are you so dead set on digging your clause in here? We've got nothing left. Our kids are gone. We have no family. What are what is it that? We're defending your what's the game plan? What's the legacy that? We're gonna leave behind that question's gonna come up for deniro says, well, even Tyrians going to bring that up with her of like who's going to rule if you're gone what's the line of succession, right? Our kids have no parents seems like perfect scenario furniture Dopp Shen, the s that would be good. I think that that would be a very happy ending here of everyone can get over there. Be s and sir c and Jamie can adopt aria brand, and Santa ran and Santa snow. I don't think that they would have a claim claim to him. He's an adult now. Yeah. I don't think that that's going to happen. But I think it's a fair question for the show. I don't think predictions list seems like a little bit of a stretch. But I think that this idea like what are we leaving behind? You know, why are we why are we just like continuing to destroy the world for the sake of our own power. What's going to be left when we are ashes? Well, the Mira. Yeah. I think I think that that's on the mind of the show, and I think it's going to be in the area storyline. And it certainly here at the Lancasters. Okay. We need better allies, stronger allies. And she says, what do you think I didn't think that cut to here? Come the great joys. And here comes new look you're on with his fleet. Yeah. Look in look in sleek. Man, Jamie, Jamie and the Europeans relationship this season is something else. But one of the usually you're on gets the upper hand including hand humor. Like he's able to have a lot of good hand jokes against Jaime. But Jaime gets to have the first shot at the gray joys as far as we get to see and him just referring to the great joys as bitter angry little people who only know how to steal things that they can't build or grow themselves. That's great. I love I love that the show is so honest about how the gray joys and the iron islanders just suck. Just awful and terrible. And everybody knows it. And it's just it's widely acknowledged in the universe of the show. Okay. Let's talk about your on two point. Oh, you're on gets rebooted after the after the king's moat. Yeah. You know, he's still got like the weird facial hair. But he shaved his head. Kinda got like the the the leather look going on. Yeah. Megan ask Neagh ask, you know. He's a little bit of a snack. But he's like kind of like Slavica. He's like there's a little bit of a snack. But he's like seaweed snack. Gotta eat seaweed chips. This is all we've got you know, that this is the snack that we're left with really like getting the dregs at this point. If he were a snack. He'd be seaweed snack or he is a snack. I think he's a snack. But he's a seaweed snack. I think what I'm saying. Here is I'm not a big fan of. We'd snacks. I like sushi. I don't like just like the chips. Those are things that I'm not ever excited to. And so this is who were left with though, this is like this hot bad guy. You know, we've lost Ramsey at this point. We've lost a lot of the bad guys along the way. So here comes like, the new bad boy and game of thrones. Even though we've already met him. But like well now, we're really really meeting him. And they're trying to give them the makeover. She got kind of like the Sandra Dee Mako for we're now he's back here in all leather. I'll tell you what he's not the one that I want. Just that feeling not feeling. Well, he's trying to make a play for C. They says that you know, there were both the rightful monarchs we should team up. Yeah. He he really has this thing where he just he really wants a Queen very badly. He's got very big ambitions for an iron islander. And if he's not going to be able to get to in time to make his pitch before Yaar in theon or they're lying. Go straight for the iron throne and make his pitch to sir c. Yeah. And so that he is the king of the iron islands now. And Jamie's like aren't you the guy that you tried to launch a whole rebellion? And then you settle the lands to ships on fire. And then we to come and put out the rebellion, and he cops to it. And he says the Jamie was great in the battlefield. He liked. Watching jamie. Kill all the great joys glorious. Yeah. Just your own people. But they suck. I have a self-loathing grade ROY. Terrible. Yes. But that made him go into exile. And he became a great captain off. Great greatest, captain, the greatest gap. Yes. Okay. And so that basically he wants to marry the most beautiful woman in the world. So here he is with the ships and two good hands. Oh. Yes. Nap double snap. Something jamie. Can't do. Yeah. He wants to marry, sir. Ac- he's gonna give her his his armada if she is down for that deal. And she she hangs onto her briefcase for now, she's not ready to say yes to how he Mandell. Yeah. He'll be back though with a gift priceless gift for for C. She says I understand not ready to commit yet. I gotta prove myself. Let me prove myself. I've got an idea. I've got a really good idea, and you'll be really happy with what I come back with. So he's not wrong. Okay. Got a got a good idea coming up. What what does that gift Larrea sand? Yeah. And basically, just like rocking the gray joy fleet. So he's gonna that's gonna be next episode where he's going to like that really weird entrance. Like it gets very WWE at the end of the next episode or he slams down onto the ship was like. Your grades ROY really really trying to make this guy thing seaweed Nash outta here that okay? Let's check in with Sam big Sam episode in the season seven premiere. This is where we get like the really gross montage. The nasty nasties cleans the bedpans. Yo he looks at the book he cleans the bedpan he looks at the book, he walks around. He pushes the car to clean up the bedpan. He looks at the book. So we get a day in the life of Sam. God woke up got out of bed cleaned bedpan. Again again. Yes. And then I looked at a locked book, the citadel scooped a lot of poop and create a lot of trash a scooped up. So more poop and cleaned up. Moa trashed SAM's day. It's honorable ferry. So Sam is assisting the arch Maistre in some sort of an autopsy. Yeah. There's a lot of just like a very dirty job. I don't think that Sam expected that he was going to have quite as nasty a gig coming here into into this season of game of thrones. Yeah. Got a handle a lot of gross stuff. If you wanna be at the citadel, I guess I didn't know that that was part of the deal. Imagine that if he knew he wouldn't he wouldn't have been quite so eager earn your gross chain. Yes. Yeah. And so they like weighing body parts. Oh, look at this drinkers liver. If I ever saw one and so Sam. Don't get that a locked book of and like, no, no, no. Yeah. Salmon arch Maistre e broS. He's he's he's played by the great, Jim Broadbent. Of course, he has his moments where he's kind of team Sam where he's like. Yeah. I by the white Walker thing. Like, if you say is there that makes sense to me? But like at the same time, we're going to be fine here. Don't worry about it. Stop asking me stuff. Right. He's like, yeah. I believe you. But you know. These things come and go it'll be fine. We got a wall. We gotta wall. We've got the wall. The wall protects us that all times walls, keep all the bad things out. There's nothing that's going to cause any problems for us. And certainly the wall will be completely intact reading into the season. So if there's even white walkers up there, we're going to be one hundred percent fine. So all right cleanup, also, by the way. All right cleanup more poop in vomit. Yeah. Sam is going to take matters into his own hands as he has been known to do. And he's gonna steal some keys from one of the sleeping Mace tres and is going to go steal the book. Sam very bold these days. Swiping stuff left. And right. Probably Rian steel ancient books that are beyond his paygrade. He just doesn't care. Sam is run out of to give. He's just here to to clean up poop and take name. Yeah. Well, I think that we find out here that Sam is very much under the belief that if he does not act then this is the end of the world. And so he's gotta move q. Can't answer right now. I love it. I love it. I love Sam. I love Sam Tara is that a surprise that secret? I think. I think there was a time on in the watching his meal, I'm here for Sam. But I think he's a specially great here in this final season where he's just like. Yeah. Let's just get this going on. Okay. All right. So we are going to go back to winter fell. And we see Bryanne and Padres sparring away and torment is not looking at Brienne like she's a seaweed snack. No. And this is clearly like season six already happened. They had that look between terminent Brienne, which I think was like amped up based on the performances his less in the writing and more awake. They saw the tape back. All that's really funny, and then the audience reaction to it is what it is to fans service LA it's a little bit. But it's it's it's ridiculous. And I think that just like, I know I love tormentors look just. Generally, just like his gigantic shaggy-haired wide eyed, look, so the more of that we're getting from arm into the happier. I am. I'm okay with it. All right now Sansa is going to chat with little finger is Sanso rude till little finger here in these scenes. I think that Sanchez kind of over it with little finger point. I mean, she does tell Bryanne brands like why is he still here is like, well, you know, he did really bail us out with the knights of the veil. But yeah, she's pretty she's really nagging little finger here in these scenes, all that's good strategy thing for for Sanso like little finger has tipped his hand his little hand multiple times where he has like he's smooth stir by the Vail. He tried to kiss her in winter fell at the turn it around. Yeah. You know, he's like really like gone all any shown his hand. And so she's kind of like, all right? Well, now, I know. I know what your weakness is. It's means. So if I just give you the cold shoulder, you're you're just gonna want more. So it gives her more power and gives her more access to information that he probably shouldn't be giving you blow it he blew it. No, absolutely, bumble sucks. Okay. And so what do you want to get out of here? Stupid little fingers. Right. So. He's says. Pharma's ring. Ignoring okay. Because she says to him that look. That she knows what he wants a what are you want? It's want to be peace and quiet. Okay. Get out of here. Got my hair. Yeah. And then Bryanne walks up, and then he starts to talk. And she's like no need to say anything. I'm sure it was gonna be very clever just out of here. Yeah. Leader Brennan SANZAR talking brands, like why do we need little fingers, smells, he sucks? I hate him. And Santa says, well, we need the Vail. We need the knights of the veil without them. We would not have won the battle the bastards. But you got to imagine like all Santa would have to do is like up to yon Roy's like, I know. You don't really like little thinker. I don't like little finger either. What's just cut little finger out of the whole deal Felix? You could save yourself a lot of drama, but we've got seven episodes of time that we need to fill up here. So I think we gotta expand the little finger just a little bit longer. Right, right. I think maybe he's still serves some usefulness. Unlike Ed Sheeran. Van. So for the burn, Ed. Sorry, I just grabbed a sip of seltzer that I'm lucky to have swallowed before you finish to that joke. Otherwise, I would have spat it out yet. Do you think that end Sheeran listens to the winter was here podcast till he must be a game of thrones. So profitable careful should be the last time on a different podcast burns somebody else and it didn't work out. Yeah. Still already of my life. Are you a fan of Ed Sheeran? My wife. A huge fan of Sharon get over it. You're such a jerk. Yeah. And even my younger son who's five I've been four at the time was like one day. Just like Alexa, play Ed Sheeran. Like, what is this? What is going on here? Alexa, play Ed Sheeran. Hands of gold. The season seven per game of thrones. Yeah. Says your four and a half year old son that being said, I think that this is a kind of a fun scene in that. You know, we're seeing the land stir army. We're seeing aria and here these people that they have no sense of what their you've been fighting for here. They're just sort of out there. I mean, I don't know what the Lancaster army necessarily does that they say they're on some sort of a peacekeeping mission. But they're sort of just like hanging out by themselves in the woods seems to be about the size of it. You know, a little bit of my camping. Like doing anything sort of like a peacekeeping. Yeah. They're glam ping having. They are seems pretty plus conditions for for this grew. Now, I like it too. And I hope that it's Representative of where the show is ultimately going. This idea of like, we got to lay down our arms between our old enemies in order to rise up collectively against this terrible other threat, but even to see like aria has a couple of moments here early on in this season. Where there some there seemed to be like some signs that are warning her away from her vengeance plan. Maybe vengeance is not the way forward aria stark. Maybe you got to be a little bit more three dimensional than that. And seeing Lancaster soldiers here who are not only not so bad. But actually pretty decent people. Ed Sheeran being jarring notwithstanding that maybe she should take some note of that. And she seems to have a peaceful dinner with these guys they're all very sweet they offer their food is not stealing from them. She gets to say like, yeah, I'm going to king's landing to kill the Queen everybody laughs. So she's killing department. You know, so I you hope that maybe some of this is gonna land for her eventually probably think it's not he probably think that this is more in the show to show that there was another way for various stark. Uh-huh. Just to tie this back to serve see one of things we missed the European conversation. Was that Jamie sim like didn't you kill your brother or socially says that great? You should try it. It's really really nice. Yeah. So we're talking about, sir. Seen killing anything, sir. C N game. Just an important thing to attack on their wonder, you think you think that, sir? He might kill Jamie. It's possible. I don't know that I think you go either way. But I think that we have to really go into these final six episodes believe it or not with an eye on sort of, you know, sir. See Jamie Tyrian, you know, some, you know, somebody killing somebody in that three for sure all right big night for the hound and thorough of MIR and beverage on dairy, and we're not expecting a big hound plotline in the seasons. I've been for mayor. But I love it. I really like these three together. It's a shame that we don't get more of them. But we do get with Barrick and Thoresen the hound is pretty good. Okay. So we are headed north and I do like the banter between thorough and the hound here that thorough. A bad night to be outdoors, and it's sort of like the hot enough for you. Yeah. Hand is not having anything for small talk. No. He he has a love hate relationship with mirror two doors beards, just like wants to get Sandra gain to to be his friend. Like he wants to give him some wrong hound doesn't like Rahm. It's too. Sweet. Why are you always such a mean guy trying to be your friend out here is like listen top-knot? He doesn't like that. Top naughty. No. Yeah. Does it come in for for my brothers hairdo? Really, not cool. Is this still happening? Top man. Bun Di you're my brother is still wearing atop not actually, no. Yeah. I wonder if that changed after he's the hand takes. The hand took down Siping. That that was it. That was the s now there's some people who are still confident enough to rock the top not. Yeah. But the Han really really calling it into question here and saying listen, we know you're bald under their full ING anybody think like a legion of top not wearing game of thrones watchers shook that night. Yeah. I think they started selling the fake ones. I think that was it. They sell fake top nuts. Yeah. You can get like a like a top nut. Like, I don't know what you'd call it extension to pay top not to pay to pay not. Yeah. Okay. So we come on a house and the hound recognizes this house from season four. Yes. He's been here before have we? Yes. And he's like, no, let's leave these people alone. I don't really want to go on here might feel awkward. But it turns out we're gonna find out in this episode that the hand can see the future right because he's going to peer into the fire, and he's going to see things from a few episodes from now. But it turns out the hound already had this power. He was able to see the future long ago back in season four. Yeah. What was that prediction? He made. He basically said to Arias like these people are good makes a nice stew, very decent people. They'll both be dead by winter. Yeah. He could easily bell ding, the bell. Because he got it. He got it. He could sold that. But you gotta imagine they probably would have done a little bit better if he hadn't stolen all their money. Yeah. Probably would have been a little bit better if they had their money buzz. I don't know if they were done much better hard to know hard to do. But I think that this is all part of that story with the hound where he's wondering if a lifetime of being a Jag off is going to have to be the way of moving forward or can he do some good moving forward. But he is forced to reckon with his own past mistakes and seeing these poor people now dead in like frozen in a corner. He's not happy about it. He feels terrible about this in his own way. He feels bad you feels bad. They were they were nice people. They wanted him to hang out and work there, and that would have been maybe they would have the money, and they could have bought the hound to sort of like. A work there and take care of them. Maybe they might have had a chance the hounds his rate is too high rate. They wouldn't be able to afford him for a long. Yeah. Yeah. Is day rate is huge. Yeah. But you know, they did have a real estate which is tough to come by. Definitely definitely. And they made a means to. Yeah. Okay. So there, you know, hanging out there and the hound and barrack done dairy and are talking about conversation that we've seen John snow have before like what's special about you Barrick. You're not special. You're not that. Great. Yeah. But the lot of night thing. So it's a big fan. Why you why was he bringing you back that the hound the see much better people die, and they don't get brought back and barrack much like John snow is. I don't think I asked myself that every day every every hour. What am I supposed to do? I'm yeah. I have to continue on. Yeah. Why do you keep getting brought back is the point of view is a lot more confident than John snow? He's like listen. I'm just happy to be here. A lot of that has has things plan for me. Now, what is special about barriers? Why why did the Lord of light bring him back eight question? Great question. I really thought that I had a good answer to this. Where I really thought what was going to happen was either Barrick was going to die and John was going to die and Thors of MIR would have to choose which one to bring back and Barrick bec- Thawra bring back. John snow? He's the one we're like Barrick himself would somehow be able to bring John's no back. I thought we would see that in beyond the wall episode. I thought that that really wrote itself did not happen. Barrick may be dead. Possibly by the end of season seven. He's there at the wall when the walls, but you don't see his body. You don't torments body gotta match, and they're probably still out there somewhere. Otherwise, the Baruch thing really was for nothing. If that's how barrack died then really much ado about nothing with barrack, Don. Darrien. So i'm. Still holding out that there may be something like this. With Barrick breathing life back into John snow for like one final power play where he's able to transfer his own sort of light infinite life power to John. Otherwise, I really don't know what the point of Baruch, Don Derian is. I mean, he got the hand to the north. Is there is there anything there that is that why they could does the hound have a purpose and the hand has a purpose? I mean, maybe that that could be something where again like if you imagine that the white Walker thing actually ends faster than than we expect. If that's done. And then Starks versus Lancaster's is at the actual game where services army versus everybody else if that's the real deal. And that's how we get our gain bowl, right? Where the mountain is about to inflict some sort of massive game ending damage on everybody. But since the hound is now here, and he's able to stop the mountain that turns the tide of. The battle or something like that. Maybe maybe. Okay. So a little anticlimactic bringing John back would be a bigger deal. And I think with six episodes left. I think that's still a possibility. Okay. All right. We're going to see the hound. He's going to give a proper funeral to the homeowners. We're also going to get the C wear thorough. So is going to have the ham look into the flames look into the fire. He's like, what do you see? He doesn't see anything. I and then the hound is like really back. He's like, oh crap. I actually see things. This is weird. This stream. It's a cell phone scooter is a sailboat you. And guess what? He sees is. All Awal of is the wall the wall the wall. What else I see an Arrowhead mountain thing? Your brother, maybe is full shadowing the mountain game ball. Yeah. And what else lots of Jad people dead people than I can count. What? So the Jehan is seeing stuff man, the hounds trip tripping balls here in this house. Okay. So he the hounds the believer. Now, he he's fully. And he's like all right. I guess this is real, dammit. It sucks, but all right. Okay. All right. And so then we're going to see this. I sit in the wrong order. But this is where we're going to they married berry. It's sad. It's better. They did. It's a cool seeing. I think the whole the whole sequence up here. Just like this kind of like this road show of the three of these guys. I think is a fun little sidebar here in the season seven premiere. But we go from that we go to all town Gillies in the house as little Sam. Yeah. Reading the books, and they're going through everything and just feel like those Maistre books. The font is like size like thirty two funds. Feels like. Could read through one of those in about four minutes. Have you seen these Maistre though, they need the big fun? Yeah. I guess I don't have enough glasses. Right. No, probably not drag glasses. Yeah. Sam he's crashing. He can't really stay awake for much longer. Gillies go to bed. Sam's has got to keep studying keep studying, and hey, what's this? What what is this a map of dragon stone Gillies got all the hot tips? Right. Like, she's the one who's like Luoyang salmon to everything like, oh, maybe you should check out this book and Sam looks on the book is like, oh, snap dragon glass dragon stone that makes so much sense Gillies or on high. Yeah. I think that Gilead is going to be the one to save us who was promised. Yeah. I think it's possible. Yes. She knows everything. She's like, oh, that's that's dragging glass. Sam he's check that out. So he writes, John, this is a big deal. He's gonna he's gonna write to John and tell them all about the dragon glass, and that's not quite it, for example town. Yeah. More poop and men puke to to clean up here. Yeah. Go collect all the balls from the infirmary terrible job bad job. He's he's going in its he's just having a horrible time. And as he's in sick bay. He comes across somebody that he has yet to meet on the show. But as a dear friend of ours, rob, yes, sir. Giora is in their Jorissen there. He has his gangly arm. Now, the gray scale has really kicked in. Yeah. That real bad got real bad. It's bad. He's very scabbed up. He's one. He's wondering if the dragon Queen has arrived yet, they don't know Sam doesn't know what what that's all about. Anything by? But it's happening. It's happening. Yeah. Okay. What did they did Giora like admit himself to the citadel? I think he came to the citadel looking for a cure is like all right. I was Danny tells me, I gotta go cure myself. I'm gonna go to the to the citadel, which is like the beacon of knowledge in this world. So maybe that's a good place to start and say just got quarantined. This is waiting room. Yeah. Okay. All right. Then we are going to have a rival donaire storm bore. She is here. She has she's arrived at dragon stone. And I feel like that we had the closing shot of the last season was Dinara sailing. And it was like, yes. And then I feel like this is kind of anti-climactic Danny arriving dragon stone because this is takes a long time to develop of. Just she's walking this hardly any talking in this. Yeah. I mean, it's there's there's no dialogue at all. Until the very end when she's in the war room. And she says a lot of second horn. Yeah. There's a lot of support. I mean, it's a very impressive set. It's really did an incredible job. And it's like, oh, man we've been to drag it some before. But like dragonstar like you've been working out because like wall, you're pretty dragged sits got like the really they're shooting in new locations. They built out huge new sets like we'd never seen the throne room before the throne room is brand new. So just looks great. But I think that you need this. I really do. I actually I'm a defender of this scene because we've been talking about an air star Garin returning to west risk for so long that I think if you don't do some arrival porn here, you're going to be in for a letdown. Like, this is a monumental moment. It was a big moment that she was sailing for west rose, which is actually arrived. She's here. This is where she was born. She was born in this literal place. And for her to like really take her time and size up the spot. This is what she's been fighting for for so long. And now she's actually getting to set is upon what she was signing for for so long. I think it's it's an exciting. Maybe it's not huge for podcasting. But I think the experience of watching this sequence is pretty dynamite is dragging stone that great now because Danny's there or did it just kind of suck because status and Mila Sandro were hanging out there at probably didn't help. Then hell all we were doing. It was like hanging out in the war room, which had been has a cool table, but otherwise burning people or rare in the cells, but we were never like in. Anyway, we didn't get to see the cool beaches. We saw beaches, but they weren't as nine was this beach. Yeah. Daytime beaches, but those beaches weren't as cool as the speech, this better beach could beat good architecture inside the rock structures outside or neat to Narus. And shall we begin feel free? Yeah. Let's do. It gets you it. Yeah. We've been we've been ready. You should have begun earlier Frank. Yeah. But it's cool. And then I think it's cool to see like all the other people like reacting to arriving in west rose for the first time in Tyrian coming back for the first time in a long time and dragon shown it's gonna be like a major set piece for the rest of the the rest of the season. So I think it's important to like kinda clueless in on what we're going to be working with here. I don't mind, I don't mind. The set the set porn. It's is dragging stone like going into the statue of liberty like like walk up like three hundred flights of stairs to get to where they are. And you have to cover it and pink slime in order to get it to move, or do you think that you know, drogue on just can like take people up one at a time. I mean probably for future reference, but I feel like they. The wall. Maybe they have like an elevator. They've been on a boat for so long. They'd. Up there step count. They gotta get to ten thousand at least. Okay. All right there. You have it. That's dragon style. That's dragging zone season premiere in the books and we March onward through season seven which I again, consider first half of the final season. So I'd like to think that we're already in the final season. Rob Jeff only six episode left to go in our rewatch. Can you believe it Yemen? I mean, we've been at this for very long time. So that that tracks for me. Okay. All right. So next time out what can we expect the sides a nother you're on great joy, citing? You're on all over the place at the at the end of the next episode. It's the battle of the great joys an end to the sand snake era, or at least a partial and to the sand snake era? We're gonna see a lot more denarius next week. We're gonna see it's gonna open with like a real great meeting of the minds between deniro and various that's going to be a little contentious good seen asandra herself. She is going to arrive back dragon stone to take a meeting with the dragon Queen and John snow's gonna get hip to the to the dragged glasses you action. And he's gonna start making the moves to to see what the Gary areas all about. So a lot happening next week. All right. That's all next time out on winter was here. A lot of stuff going on post show. Recaps that the Walking Dead is back this week whisperers. Yes. The whispers, it's all happening. Jessica. Leeson? I talked about all that just a Mike bloom or talking about Star Trek discovery as well Star Trek disco. So a lot of stuff going on. 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Game of Thrones Recap:  Just Enough Bronn in Your Diet

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Game of Thrones Recap: Just Enough Bronn in Your Diet

"Welcome to cinema. Vino this episode four our game of thrones breakdowns. We're going to look at episode four of season. Eight the last of the Starks. Yes. And so we have a lot of thoughts. And also, go ahead and introduce us. We're getting out of order of operations. Todd Wofford Taylor. Owens and Travis bud, bud. He's back in full force. We missed you. So we're gonna get right down to what do you say? Brass tacks were start Travis. What did you think of last night's episode? Yes. So we had some some good send-offs at the beginning, the Pires, and I think Taylor just told us before we started. And I gotta go take a look at the. Beginning credits, everything sometimes things change. And he he mentioned that they showed the I don't know the Pires the Pires going up. And did they also like you said I thought so. I watched it last night. But I fortunately had a few drinking Poos. So I re- wash it again today. And that was like one of the first things I noticed I missed that last night. So again, couldn't confirm we didn't just rewatch it. But I thought that was the only difference in the opening I looked for because I still don't think we're done with the night Nike thing. Yes. So I was watching for any other movement coming down the wall anymore, the shuffling and like all right? Well, they're not gonna show it right away. We're still doing the wrap up of the battle the. The sendoff for for several characters and pretty well. They did a good. Closing chapter several characters. I kept thinking the whole time. Now, they're done like, Danny? She's going to be really little salted with John. She she doesn't know like he's got a better claim. So when he started like eulogizing them and talking like that was kept thinking that she was going to interrupt him and like still thunder try and come in and be like, I'm the one we defeated. And you know, I was like I was waiting for the shoot drop. And then we had the really cool, and I didn't realize it went back in sauce shit with how they did it, but the long dinner or the celebration scene, which is really cool, which was you know, you got to see people when they're down time dealing with all the craziness. But what they mainly did. And they've we're talking about the Shakespearean aspect of the last few episodes is a said the most without saying anything at all. It was all like the characters like weird sidelong glances like. Harris was staring a hole in the back of need. Yeah. Come on. I mean, I have several more things to go. Let's hear your thoughts. I two things. Tmz the opening scene where I agree man would John's talking it was like, wow, they are sitting this episode up to like which they did to make him. Look like the king. I mean, he just went. It was a great opening scene. And yeah, I liked the dinner scene or the celebration to call it. They're all hanging around the great hall. Great hall. It was just like, but yes. You you kinda Saul everyone in their different element. But I keep forgetting his damn name. G- injury injury injury a site. That was a pretty cool seen as like. And I feel like that was her doing something to be like, hey fuck. Jon snow, look at what I can do like, you are the first hero is like, you're not storms end. That's it. And I was like, okay. This was going to get spicy. And she's in the north and like, you see her up there, and they're like on those long tables fucking nobody's talking to her because they show even seeing that gets up and leaves because she does a whole look at Danny. And but and then you got like John over there. Just like one acid she can off the table. Like, hugged and Rollo. Torment calling him a caning like who would imagine or king the line with? Yeah. Like riding a dragon coming back to life who would do that. But either madman or king. And and he's saying all that shit. And then John kind of looks at Danny and Danny's just like. Like that guy. Well, and it was at that look when she got up, and that's when various kind of had that look of that just straight through her skull dislike. Yeah. I don't know if I like this girl, and I was like, man. It was a great scene just from everything. But I mean, you definitely got that feeling that hey, you know, Danny is not a huge fan of that few scenes later Travis I'm jumping ahead a little bit. But he's on a few scenes later when she met John in the room, and there were about the bomb Buckley's. But you know, they she couldn't get out of her mind that you are the rightful heir, and when she tells him she was like, you can never tell anybody never tell. So clearly, she's massively jealous actually, you know, this being this game of thrones. I was a little bump down the opening credits. When I was like, oh, no nudity. Fair go on go on. And that's what Joanna said she was like, this is like eighty something minute episodes nudity. Yeah. We're here for the gang bang. So you're not first part of the episode Todd CI gre-. I totally got that. It's like man, he looks real. What's the word presidential out there? You know? It's like whenever the president gives like the big speech after the tragedy like the mourner and chief or whatever, that's he's the guy that brings everybody consoles everybody. He uses a little bit of the language from the night's watch blends that yeah. And it's like, you know, soothes everybody. But the party I commented that it was kind of like a wake in a way, it was like, you know, how when people have like this is a celebration of their lives. You know that? So it had. It's like a party, but it's like a wake, and it was like man, this is it's a very tense. There's so much tension all over the room. Yeah. It's like, you know, I wrote here. I don't know whether people like they don't know whether they want to like get wasted or start crying or just fuck. Yeah. Interrupted. It's like that's kind of what the hound said to to. Gandhari? It was just like. Whereas aria, and he was just like the debtor dead. So you get it as you walked. What he was just like in US. It is what it is like go live your life. And it's like so. Yeah, I totally get that. I was like no one knew what to do except for the hound. And I wrote that you know, it was like, you know. I don't wanna cry wasted or fuck, and I was like brand does all three and one night. She covers whole. Yeah. True is not one night. Well, kind of I mean, it's like it's span of the over the span of episode. But yeah, it's it's I think it's taken that a lot of time has passed between John leaving and Danny getting the travel time. Yeah. They're doing doing a hurry up offense. To try and. And you know, and I thought that that moment, so they bang more. What's wants saying? Guess more. You're you're actually. But the one thing that struck me, and we can get to this later. I thought that moment was out of character for brand also bran I didn't realize but Brin knows nothing. She didn't Johns. No that that was the cave that was their moment. She got very true. But yeah, we'll get to that later. But yeah, I thought that it was it was one of those kind of very awkward parties where it's like people are looking to pair up people. Are you know, and to me the overall theme of episode was like love and disappointment. Yes, merge. Everybody for all the care. Everybody poor injury. You know, it's like he gets his big moment. And then with eighteen nine people watching he is like on the Jumbotron at the football stand on one knee. And she is like the fucking that picks up. The pop words out. I mean, I think are you probably would have gone with the I mean, not with Genri to the storms in done that whole thing. But if Ganji was like, yeah. Kind of fucking day you like just hang out. Can we just go from place to place getting adventures and fuck when we get there like she would have been like. Yeah. Basically till I get bored of you were she she did like him at one point. And I think she probably still does he's changed. But that was kind of the theme between her and Jamie, and the Halley listener infants more they all have something else on their plate. And they can't think about anything else tries to change as I think about just damn traffic calls like all the Starks who was like John change aria change. And even sounds to the hound is like I would both a quote like, I was still would have been a little bird wasn't for this change. So she's changes human. So it's. This episode is about change. I know that a lot of people weren't happy with that line about like, a, you know, I've got a, you know. Well, there's always the thing about like wing women having to suffer either. The how the whole thing with like women in refrigerators, it's like. You know, women have to die to give the man motivation to go out and do create makes more or, you know, the violence needed to happen to Santa till like wake her up and make her essentially better more savvy. So a lot of people didn't like that portion. I mean, she she was correct. You know is still been the little Berber like it just took a lot of people didn't like it. They pointed out that the trauma made her into the leader this. She is now she's basically just like, you know, search junior right now, you might not realize it, but she's bitch face. Pitch. She was staring down to any entire time. Whenever dangling over Tyrian. And was like, you know, the only one who's clever like she's gonna rude. It was just like come on. Being nice right now. Yes. The way that I saw that thing between. In the hound was kind of a mirror of theon 's apology brand. And then brand in his very monotone tone-deaf way was like, you know, what I paraphrase. He's like, you're right. What you're supposed to be like what you have done has brought you here and seizes case what has been done to her has brought her here. And so it's like, you know, the three act raven. I'm not brand anymore. Really are is not argue anymore that really John John fans anymore. I don't want anything any. I don't want your I don't things anymore. Like come on. Can we can we time stamp? This has anybody ever made of our city blues game of thrones fronts before. Now, I think torments the tan. Yeah. He's got a pig in the back of the truck. Let me drinks maple syrup. Honestly after I said that. Yeah. We just we just not locked apart. Who's a tweeter twenty Twitter's? Vance was wrong. It is wrong. Fuck sweeter end zone. A few more things about the party. Torment and on big old here. Yeah. So first of all torment is like my spirit animal. I feel like and that was such an emotional scene for me. He looks like he gives really good hugs. We'll he's so big and burly, and it's a nice guide, and Harry and soft. Yeah. Late to that. I might smell a little Musi. But like there's a little bit of goat's milk in the mirrored. But yeah, probably the chest area. That's fine. I'd probably love them smash. I was going to bum that about that. He was clearly heart broke he he was bummed out. But I will say that line when he's of all people. He's pouring his art out to the hounds all people. He's porn is the hound is so upset about it. Nobody else could do that. Like. Like bears done Derian could do something. Like that. Like, would you shut the fuck up three over this wall? Yeah. Three torment is either so tough or so Bolivia or is just so amusing even to the hound when he's trying not to be amused by him of all the. That was his fucking care jour-. You know, you keep thinking like. If it goes down like if they're going to like fucking squad if they get into a tiff, you're like. I don't know who I have a good point. I don't know who I would go with because I like them both like damn that was a great seen it. It kinda showed torment sensitive sign at home. Showed that the hound is doesn't give shit. You know, it was just so output. But also, a great scene toured ends up being okay? Remind me of whenever you greet was talking to John. And they were like, yeah. Basically with Wild Wings or the free folk they just come in, and basically grab and take the woman, and if she fights off or whatever very fucking, it's a little weird north of the wall. But that's why day like sneak-in, and like, you know, we'll steal the wife or whatever she likes. She won't kill him investment or something. So I was like I kept thinking like he's he's reading brand, and he's just gonna fight brand like wrestle or whatever. And I was like oh Bryn my fun kill that fucking hound. Yeah. I mean that was still damn good fight. But yet. I kind of wanted to see her beat the shit tournament. I think about that. I wouldn't awesome. But so if I may here there is. John snow is a shitty fucking pet owner ghost or go. And I think I've said this before bombing say it again. I really want them to do a box set at the end and somebody drop ten million. So they can go back and do more dire. Wolf and ghosts scenes? I wanna see John walkup and pet ghosts on the fuck and head forgetting his ear ripped off during the battle water fell. Okay. But all of the dire walls that the stars have had and. There's an argument to say whatever happens to their dire. Wolf is foreshadowing what happens to them? So a lot of people think. Torment saying, hey, man, you would've I wish you could come to the north. You've got their north. And you the real you could come, and, and you know, John says we take ghost. I think he belongs her he'd be happier. Their terminals like think you'd be happier to. And so, you know, he's John is is accepted by all these different folk even torment said only this guy could make a friend out of an enemy get killed and brought back to life. Right. A fucking drag do all the crazy shit. He's done. So santa's. That's why people think that Santa is gonna die at some point because her dire wolf lady. Arias? Dr Wolff Nigeria. She. Chased off after a bit Joffrey and instead of killing her Dr will they killed Santa's. Dr wolf lady lady took the hit for that. And I'm here is off one, you know, running wild and free. She showed up last season. I have an aria met her and was like, oh, that's not you anymore. And then she learned that about herself. She's like, yeah. That's not meaning more build aria. I'm not no one. I'm not whatever I am aria stark, whatever the new artist star gives. The only two dire wolves that are left are ghost and Mira. So a lot of people think that only John and aria arguments survive this, and then with this whole torment thing, you're like, maybe John dips out like whatever happens happens. But he's going to be like fuck all y'all. I didn't want any of this ever. I'm going north. So that's a spin off right there. He could be a little uncle engine. Also, I'm really pissed off about this spin off if they're not going to explain the night king or the long night piss me off if they're if they're like, you know, what we're going to do it. We're building up this whole time. Tell you what we're gonna do a prequel about a thousand years before during the long night. Maybe might it's Mensa -sarily north fucking loan. Fucking murders. I agree. So we'll take a brief break then come back and do another segment of some of you know, finish your glasses. Yup. Welcome back to send vino. So we are drinking a little bit of wine that I think fits the theme of the episode. I watched last night we have the groundwork Surra, which this was a very groundwork Ling episode. This was a very table setting that bitch. That one is dead is night. King. On choosing. We have different theories about that. But we'll get back together. And we have the right one mine and yours bullshit. Okay. And then we have the revelry cabernet, which is a California cabernet that is sums up the whole party atmosphere of the first sequence of the episode, which was the very awkward tents celebration of the you know, the battle the moral. It's the everybody kind of tension relieving like, you know. Let's get drunk play drinking games. Let's get in bed. Yeah. They play. I've never. Yeah. In by. Yeah. Yeah. It's like the to me, it's the party. That was like we have all the feelings that we don't know where to go with them kind of atmosphere, which, you know, for example, like the hound was very grouchy torment was very Randy. So everybody was going in a lot of different directions in that particular. So I will post links to both of these wines that movie reviews the US. Yeah. But you can also find this on other websites or no streaming sites. Right like, which ones. Yeah. I think if I on Spotify and apple podcast. Yes. He said apple. Okay. Again. I I presume noon. Yeah. So you should listen rate and subscribe to. Cinema venial sin evil or April pod Kapil, wait. So we listen Rayton subscribe to to Spotify and apple okay? Till you took it too far. It's just new bit. Hello. But me, what was the next scene after the party? Great hall saying. I'm thinking all talking. I push go to king's landing wrong. Maybe with your on and versing a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Or do. They do the parentage of John snow like, sir. See was the back half of the the first half was kind of weird where it was. So they definitely did the whole. One of the things I wrote down like I felt like a lot of these scenes were cut. We took notes this time. Yes, this listens were cut short. But in a good way one of them, which I thought was Davos talking to Tyrian about like, you know, hey, the Lord of light we do everything for him. He didn't do shit. And then it is faded away. Tyrian shows up talking to brand then he was just like like your chair. Yeah. Someone built in one hundred and twenty years ago. My man you heavy so weird. And then it was like, and then someone just took Brian away. He he looked back at the person. And then that person just wheel them away. I'm like who was that person? I'm still very upset that we don't know what he interior talked about right before the battles faded away. What the hell is happening. And they did not talk about John's parentage because that was a shot tearing when he found out. Yeah. So it was something else. And then they Dany and John or the room there about the bang, and then you know, John had a few drinking booze. He just couldn't get it up. And so they had to talk about real life stuff and guys whiskey. Dick is a real problem. Really that we we need to bring attention to it. Yeah. Hash time. We just move reviews. US hashtag whiskey dick that long on wind dick because he was drinking one need to Goto, right? Goes mill. Because he didn't wanna vomit horn horn dick that scene was also she was like don't tell anybody don't tell anybody fades away. John and Anne had a moment that hit home for me because their interaction when he when she comes in and asks if he's drunk is every interaction of me coming home with my wife of are you drunk now. No. A little bit. Yeah. A knock into some a little bit. Yeah. The whole jig up when all either stumble or slur or say some gibberish just slurred. Maybe was it to you. Sassy film beliving. That great. But then you were going back to when you know, John totally against what you know. Danny said it was like they're sitting there with the whole family, and I got to tell you the truth. And but he doesn't tell them the truth. He's like, hey brand. Here's a new scene for you. You do it. He says it brand says, it's your choice, your choice and then. Yeah. John can't do. And he's like, yeah. Yeah. But but like the Univer confronting John about it. And never really say anything, you don't get to see the reaction. Yeah. Tucking that away for later exact jumped ahead, but then you have sauna washing the Dragonfly and tearing walks up, and you know, she was like what if there's somebody else phase away. I've seen people comment that that's The Empire Strikes back moment will Lucas flying away. And. Mirrors were OBI wan that boys. Our last hope and yoda's like, no. That was the worst iota that I ever did. Ever worse. Again, santa. Same as great as she's become like an savvy. She's a little bit of trash monster. Like, she she wants what she wants. She knows how to get if think of her being basically think of her as think of her in the north if she knows she's like what if somebody else she knows Tyrians about to leave, and she plants a a nugget of doubt in him. She gives him basically, a not a weapon of mass destruction. But she she plants the seed plans to seize of destruction. She no, yeah. Yes. She knows that this is gonna fuck up whatever's is happening in behind the scenes and may not fuck up their total endeavour because everybody's after surgery, but she is planning so far ahead. She's playing chess not checkers. So she's like, yeah. You guys go on down. You know? Scope it out check out. Let's fuck her up. But also you ho. Yeah. Anything about who she was raised by. I mean little finger Ramsey. So she no that'd be evil in Manipur. Anti-drug freelancers. Yeah. Well, she didn't learn anything from Seattle. I but from but, but certainly yes, I thought about the scene and godfather part too. I think about the godfather lot means movies just because it's always there's a law. It's a lot of murder and entry people plotting against each other. But there's a scene where Michael Corleone is talking to one of his lieutenants in the mafia older guy, and he talks about growing up in. He spent a lot of time playing his dad's office, you know, and how he learned everything that he needed when he was sitting in front of his desk. You know, that's when he uses his famous like you, keep your friends, close, your enemies, closer, you know. It's like I learned from Osmo just being around him in that room. You know? And so that was kind of I think Santa not so much directly no-. Nobody's really mentored her maybe little finger, but she learned so much as being around. I mean. All start kids, except for brand has has done the same thing. Are you spent time with Taiwan Linister ran his mail, and she like that learned and, you know, talk to him on the on the you know on sly, whatever he he had downtime. But also listen to all the plans and ship. She did the same. She was pretending to be a boy, and you know, a little bit of that pre-training before she became a faceless man with jock and Hogar. She was taught all that bite Jockan or whatever jock represents whatever face is with the faceless men in the waif. And she learned I'm sure from like night Marya also. But like all of and the hound she had several mentors along the way as well. And she only I always I use this term, and it's a Harry Potter term. But she she Godhra Griffin Dorde herself. There's a there's the sword in Harry Potter. That's the sword of Godhra Griffin door, and it only takes into that to itself. That which makes it stronger in the second Harry Potter movie. It kills a bass Lisk and somehow absorbs the venom. So now it always has venom whenever it strikes opponent. So basically, that's what are you has done. She's like, okay the hound. I can learn some things from him. But he's also shit at all these other things that I'm better at so much like Santa did the same and John they take the best parts of their mentors and have like right incorporated that into they only took in that which made them stronger John might be still a little bit shit. When like battlefield commanding his his battle of bastards. And maybe also about where fell planning weren't the best. Yeah. Mean because he's been towards would be, you know, obviously, he didn't get to finish his mentor ship with Ned stark, but Jiro more Mont. Ormond torment? I put man's raider in that man's raider. Yeah. People that kind of influenced him. And now Danny he's been with her for while Dabo's to certain degree has. Yeah. Was devas- was his handwrite pretty much. I mean, he he became one of his top advisors. Yep. And now he's still with his family like learning from the new Santa the new aria and one thing I noticed that guy who runs through all these -tarian with Jon snow early when he's like, you know. But then, you know, he also mind needs books like a sore needs a wet stone. But Tyrian also influence Sanga. And you know, he kinda weaves named Danny and everybody he's not are you though. But he definitely weaves through in an apparently now brand maybe he has the conversation with fares. It was like, you know, he how many how many kings have you been through when he asked me. It's like, you know, hey, you've you've been through a lot recently. And it was like in. I'm trying to be the same way. So yeah, I think everyone has had their mentors in the show. You know, what would be Tyrians mentor? I mean wine. It's like. Shea. I mean, if you really thinking about on, I mean, Tyrians just, you know, it's a smart man, but he doesn't have him into he'd never he killed with father for better or worse. Taiwan was deaf with somebody that had an influence. Yeah. He killed them for sure. But you know, you could tell for a longtime. He wanted his approval to some easy. You know, even to send even though he loathed his father. He's still trying so hard his siblings to you know, he he wanted. He even this episode. You could tell he still has some affection for Thursday. Yeah. What Tyrian interestingly a little bit of all three time when sir C N? Jamie, Jamie, not that great of a fighter anymore, and you know, really good-looking and all that stuff. But Tyrian as we've known like kind of knows how to fight he can eat went on the battle of blackwater bay. And also with his other homeboys shaggy son of dole f- or I p season one actually could still be alive. We just don't know. We don't been off. Yeah. But no, he's he's cutting and vicious like certainty, but he also has the temperament of Taiwan, and he's he's, you know, got a little less, but you know, of Jamie as well, he's he's kind of incorporates all those parts as well. But if I can go off some Minos now just random aria that winter fell. Okay. This might be going back to three she's been practicing shooting fucking arrows since episode one like somebody pointed out that the first time we see aria is like brand sitting there trying to shoot EROs sailing, boom. She has bullseye out out behind surprises brand while John is right there. They for you know, they have it. Again, battle of winter fell brand is right there. Everybody's the focus on brand boom. Are you out of nowhere right in front of Sean killing Nike? Being. But can we get her some fucking dragging EROs because she is a dick grew is would have done much better with that than like running through the halls. And like, all right. I got to fight this person fight this person that was my one other Rando. But if I can skip ahead a little with the last scene of the episode with Tyrian walking up as you said to to talk to. What is he's a what what what is the thing that he tells her that he thinks is going to get her. It's about her kid. She hasn't told sir that Tyrian that she's pregnant she told Jamie, Jamie went to winter fil, and then told Tyrian and Tyrians like now has that information. Right. You're on is standing right behind Sirsi. And he's like how the fuck does Tyrian. No. I just found out you're on not real smart now. But I think he can do some math behind the scenes somebody was like you're on. If he finds out Jamie's kid he's gonna fucking killer himself. He's a mad fucking dog. You'll new whatever. Yeah. Could Danny not from dragon in the air on the ocean? It's not like there's a lot of terrain. She fucking see the ships wasn't got there. She didn't scout a head maybe. Yeah. It was weird. Like there. There's flying in the next thing. You know, it was like, hey here the ships here the dragons, boom, he's dead. I'm to what the hell is going on from several thousand feet up. Yeah. They did show. Again. It was one of those behind the scenes things about the scorpion two point. Oh, sixty five percent bigger than the first and this one like after you shoot it the prongs come out and it also spins and drills on like. Oh, oh, yeah. That might work. That's that's a lot, but they are mounted at the front of the ship. And I don't know if they can, you know, I'm just thinking if Danny seen it before she was like, oh, cool. They're all faith. Well, the one direction and you come from behind because there's I mean, it's hard to swing that the scorpion all the way around and shoot through the main mast and all the sales if they're up Travis were jumping all around now. But like you said they. Tend to give some spoilers at the end at the next time on game of thrones. And that was kind of the that was the last shot was, you know, they're wet right for the battle. They're looking at the sky, you're on sitting there, and he's holding and you hear a noise Sumi dragged him, and he has. Immi-, but he had a face like oh fuck it was like what is that? Yeah. And so I was like I'm curious to see again, I loved the episode, and I'm kind of cut. I saw the cliffhanger clipping the the next week's episode because it was a spoiler because like he's clearly looking a little terrified like. Oh, yeah. I mean. Yeah. Can those scorpions aim straight up is I was thinking like a diet like a pair Frau falcon just like getting Nuff air coming down directly on top of them them. Not being able to angle the thing quite up enough. And be like, oh, well, I guess we're just fucked then and then drug on just one was that main ship, and then strips the others, and it was like Poos, and then leaves from the back end, and they can't like wheel around and thing that I was thinking, no. Oh, yeah. I thought about Lawrence of Arabia and where seen that. Lawrence is they're trying to figure out a strategy to take this. You know, this basically Ford and that faces out into the ocean. And, you know, Lawrence eventually to do says, he's like all their guns are anchored and facing out to the ocean. So we're gonna cross hundred mile desert that supposedly uncrossable. Yeah. And they take them easy because they can't turn the guns around. No matter what they do. They're all because they figure nobody can cross the desert so their biggest thing is heavy guns. Negate that advantage out? I think that they're going to tack them in a way that they can't like, retain, I don't think they can turn the guns around. But like you were saying last night, they can't get through the mast and sails so I think they're gonna angle the drag angle their attack a way either underneath or behind. We're talking like I feel like killing the night king might have just been Hainault where just killing magic right now. And we'll get some theories. Good. We'll get into some theories later, but what does killing magic right now. So now you have to fight how you would fight. So they're going to have to do something special. Hey, we're we're gonna do this. And this we have theories we'll talk about later about like, you know, what they're going to do. But they're going to have to do something to attack the army because even Veira said even grey worm. It was like, hey, we're basically dead even right now. It's it's a deadlock. Yeah. They did have the criminal chrome of just like crazy fantasy. Yeah. But they've been paring down the fantastical a lot. Yeah. They took out. Temporarily took out the Nike because he's still hundred fucking common right for it. They killed two dragons. Date. They. Okay. Tillers writing something down. No. This under my theories. Okay. Yeah. This okay. I think I know where you're going with this. But yeah, you've killed taking out to dragons this. So I really do think obviously Danny at the end of the road after MS Sanday Arpey. Which is call gets got by mountain. We've got a recipe for mad Queen like nothing else at the beginning of the. Owed. She buries Jura. Burns them. Then she's also just lost the Syrian. I mean, who basically she gets to more than twice that vizier on one of her children and then came back to to fight them. And then just got got again dead. Whatever you call one more thing to burn. Then she sees John taking on all the accolades. She's like people used to look at me like that. I know what that's like. And then she's on her way back stuff is not going the way she wants it to. Kid number two goes down. She's lost Giora. She's lost Berson sell me several. She's lost two of her three dragons, and then at the very end her basically closest friend. Yeah. Like not advisor adviser, but like miss Andy was just like BFM. Yeah. They would talk about banging grey worm. Yeah. She's like, oh, what happened with warm, and she's like many things like tuna needs. Okay. Cool. But yeah. Danny's teed up like all of her advice is have have dipped out and she's not happy with Tyrian at all. And clearly the last Mercedes last words Jakarta's is like I think we got a mad Queen owner hands unless she's able to like blink out of it. And be like, okay. I am going. And that's the one thing that they talked about was like they fear that she is the mad clean Tyrian says to various was like with our council we can help her. And you know, he keeps saying we're about I'm about the realm. It was like fear. She can't be held Jon snow is the one that can do it. And so I think the man Queen is definitely a thing which you want cheese. Fucking inbred all like brothers marrying sisters for hundreds of years. She's and she could be genetically predisposed predisposed to whatever insanity took over her whatever chemical imbalance. That's what I mean. Tyrians like, oh, no tar Gary engine. Didn't that for years? But Jon snow is not you know, he's from the north the north don't marry their aunts. It was just like. Yeah. That's that's a whole different ball. Arguments Johnson, also targe area and blood. I mean, he has start low, but he's also half tarred area. Oh, yeah. Little tar Gearan. But he's he got more chocolate chips in his cookie mix. Sergeant dania oops altered cookie. A heat. Okay. So before we switch over to theories pointed about Braun for second. Wish you would. Yeah. About Amy after you again, the whole bronze situation was loved. But again, go through the floppy -ness of the episodes quick. He just shows everyone's drunk to shows up. And he's like, hey, here's why are you here punches -tarian punches Tyrian? I think she said that they're in an in somewhere outside of winter fell. Can I believe it or not in the all think Lovie? Yeah. So he shoes any she's the one thing. I did like is the way Braun said the way I see it when it when he choose the aero. I only need one Lancaster. That's always said he was the way. I see it. I want even one landed someone genie's stands up, and he's like not on your best fucking day with two and that or something whatever he said, I'm gonna core of them. Yeah. Again, he's I really want Braun meet torment, but. He punched Tyrian my nose. No is it when I was your size. I broke many noses. I didn't break your nose and then. Jamie stands up, and he was just like not on your best day. Could you be Brahman is basically my new hero? Just reminded me. I don't know what movie it is. But Wesley Snipes like somebody stands up. He's like sit five dollars down before I'm exchange that yeah. That's what I. Oh, dear. I did. Like the moment of Jamie Stanton up to defend -tarian. Like, instinctively know, you're not gonna hurt him. I don't care who you are. You don't come after him. I did like kind of goes back to what we were talking about. But just the facial recognition was when Brienne asked Tyrians like you were married before sauna, and he drank and then Jamie looked at them. Jared that look like don't even don't even begin that. I feel they're laughing about their family now. And it was just like because they know what they are like don't even bring that up. Man. It was like don't bring that up. Like, I know what I did. It was like yes, I was married before calm down. And it's like I like that Africa. But Braun, oh my gosh. And in again, he just said can I stop you Tyrian killer wing, man. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Everyone wants to hang on tear. Yeah. Yeah. It was a Braun coming back was good. I do feel like he was he was putting everything out there. Like, I feel like I only wanna alive. What did he say? Like, I will see after the battle for the battle. I hope you survive. And so what is happening? Get a love to say. Like he's been one of their. Said it I'll say it. Anyway, he's been one of the greatest like cats pause like Arias daggers called the cat's paw dagger. But like just you know, when they need something done, or when they need some muscle or Jamie is just bullshit with his like only good hand left or like fuck Braun, you help this fuck up over here. You you be Tyrians bodyguard. Like, he's done everything. They've asked him to do he saved Jamie dilute train battle. It was like, Jamie. Why are you trying to be oh, and then knocked him into the deepest lake ever. And they swim across the land thing. Nobody saw they were in full armor Janus in full armor. But. Yeah. Time and time again, he saved both of them. He did the battle the moon door at the end like tearing asked him to fight the trouble combat by the mountain and bronze like folk off. Yeah. Man. We're friends, but what have you ever done for me? It's just it's just me over and over and over again. Braun brownie to get that nut. Yeah. Also, my last point of evening is Jamie leaving Bryn. So he he one hundred percent left brand because what he loves her. And he can't, you know, he's he's attached to sir, sir. She's a little bit like a drug. But I think he is one hundred percent the Vallon car that is going to choke out and kill says. Yes. Somehow some way I keep coming up with funky shit like every single day. Somehow he's gonna come back. I don't know what's going to happen. What's the scoop is what if it's going to be aria with his face or what I don't fucking know somebody go and kill Sirsi to complete the prophecy. Now a lot of prophecy shit is going out to one do this season. They don't seem to be angling towards it. Or might not be literally somebody else also said that Tyrian talking about her. Her pregnancy in front of Braun like causes her death. Like he killed her with words, and you're on going to earn. Sorry. Not Braun you're going to be like so not my fucking kid and then kill her himself. You know? You know that the prophecies can be interpreted different ways and come down the semantics, but but Jamie, if he can I think he's still hundred percent brand like, but he's going down there with us either talked certainty, and it's going to get out of hand he's going to kill her that to me the same between Jaime and Brienne totally echoed the same -tarian and shea where it's like I have to guarantee that you are going to get the fuck outta here. And I'm gonna say whatever I have to guarantee that you are not in brand's case. Like, you're not gonna follow me. You're not gonna help your you're going to stay here. I have to say something so horrible that it's going to get you out of this battlefield removal. Yeah. And so it's like Tyrian talent show like your whore, you're nothing, but a whore I could never marry you can never have children with like he's going to affect her to the bone to help save her to me. That's what Jamie was doing with Brienne like, but you didn't believe it though. Either the characterization of brand that moment, no. Bended feminizing are a lot for that that extreme. Yeah. I totally. Yeah. I mean to me it's like, I think that she could have heartbroken and not in a bad way. But, but it doesn't track for Brienne feminizing don't because it's like, I totally that she can have a heartbroken because you know, obviously, she with her character being passed over at a dance and being deeply wounded that's in her character to be injured by that. But I think she's too proud to show it to break down like that out in the open. I think she would internalize that to a certain degree. I honestly, I think. For her character. She would have shown up at least had a sword in hand. My I can't let you leave. Danny and Santa have trust you to me, if you could be going back over to the side, like this, this aggression will not stand. And instead she's just sitting there in a robe like, oh, it sure is cold out here. I hope you don't leave me or your leave. I'm just gonna sit here with my arms crossed. And maybe just I myself, a good cry. That's not bringing tar ugly cry. Yeah. And it was like this more vulnerable than I feel like ran would allow herself be she would just grab the SCRUFF of his neck and give them a good punch like knocking. Yes. Yeah. I mean, it's one thing for him to dip out and her not to have seen it all and leave her message or a node or something or whatever give her salty feelings. But yeah, just yeah. Yeah. It was not characteristic of her. No, I that was the most out of character. Mona thought entire and I had in my notes that it was. Like, Jon snow is noble to the point of his destruction. And probably everybody. He cares about. He he is honorable, you know, have tell aria Incisa honorable, and it's like. I mean, it's like man, you're you're such a good guy. It's going to get you killed and probably some other people kill. Yeah. For sure if you had a little more of a level head, you'd realize this might not be the time to disclose a center mation. And then it's like, especially because obviously Sandra head fingers crossed behind her back because she mainly blabbing to people. But so he now so yeah, this episode secrets don't mean anything. What says oh, eight people known Donau information. Yeah. Line. So it's no longer story. It's information. Yeah. It's gone on. Yeah. He's in. Now, it just becomes truth. We talk about this onstream that verisign Tyrian thing. Like, I think basically they drew line in the sand in verses like, well, that's all I can say honestly it just yet. I think he's going to dip out leave dragonstar undercover. And I totally and then go find John and be trying to talk. John like, hey, man. Yeah. You go ahead win this battle. But you're the king. We remember millstone was words like you're going to die in on this virus. Yes vary. So he's I he's not going to die on. Apparently. He's got to die on a westerly offer. He's going to die. So we're out there before the series is over so called that he's going to die somewhere. I think it's going to happen. The next two episode. Oh, wait. What did she say? He's gonna die on that continent or that he's going to die in beat incontinent. Int. You're not going to be holding poop in you. Go. Campoo pants. Verse aspire union, we will be lower poofy pants a home. You gotta be. No, he Lord. So anyway, we're gonna take a brief break come back and do one last segment of some vino theory. I finished my second bottle over rates good here. We go. No, wait till kill it. That was massively done to hold that thought. Welcome back for segment three of cinema vino. So we're going to discuss a few comments on social media on cinema vino, podcast, Instagram. Any on from Facebook. And it's a combination of Facebook Instagram Yang. Still trying to get on that Twitter. Lean one question that we got and this is from at Astro. This. It's one delicious ELO this from at Astro dot OT who will rule winter fell down that John is known as a target area. Yeah. I think this whole entire this last episode. I mean, regardless who I think is going to sit on their like, everyone just become this big solidarity like everyone just kind of in their own thing. Everyone's. You have grey worm doing his own thing. You've now got songs. Like everyone pulled in so many directions. So whether even be a winter fell to rule that's a more question, Mark. But if everything held up the way it's supposed to hold up. I would say saunas, well, this she would be the one that would rule winter fell. But I feel like everything's game thrown Joel as everything's just been torn into shreds also last minute, just while you're talking about this Gani just legitimize injury Baratheon. And his dad was essentially our last king before all this craziness haven't he does wanna get freaky with aria? Right now, he's lords Lord of storm's end like if all this other craziness happened. If Danny dies of John's like fuck it. I'm going north or if dies whatever asks if he doesn't get Brunswick driving that knowledge. The podcast is in gingery is like he's the air who's in line. Like, oh, rob breath in was. So you could all right cool. So we're right back where we started. But with a bastard that's been legitimised. And much more. Temperate like what they said about John's. No, yeah. Yeah. He also fits a lot of attitude cinema Johns. Now, it's like he is much more moderate much more even killed a war hero warrior. I always. I like the weird game of thrones. And reading the books and everything as has showed me that just like the titles, and and, you know, shorter names for things are really powerful like the just the name straight up ice for Ned Stark's great sword and just other weird titles for Danny? But I just now was thinking that'd be cool. If Arias is like the roaming Queen if you know Gandhari is king and all that and say that she does society. Mary like, yeah. What or doesn't or they just give her the title of the roaming Queen like, yes, she shows up at red keep whenever she's trying to catch that D. But. Then she jumps out again, does whatever she wants to or you know. Gindras like, hey, could we get your help with this? And she hops in as needed. So basically, she should go walk the earth. Todd who do you think is going squad on that throne is they're going to be thrown is night. King come down. I really liked again to Ari thing. If I mean, I just think he level jump the relationship to use the Seinfeld term. He kinda tried to power up before the time was if I think if he if he gets slow played, Dan, I think Taylor's got on board strong, drink Todd. We're drinking right now. We'd reconsidered and sevens. That was another. We're gonna play this comment that I got what do you drink episode the long night to recover? Todd. You answer the throne question. I please. I'm sorry. Yes. On the throne. It's tough. I like it's up in the air. I like the idea of injury Gandhari aria Garia. Balkass APRIL's new news. I think. I think that there's a good chance that I don't know. I think I think Danny's up I really do. I think those who visit on winter fell or the thrown at the question there is a question was who's going to be who's going to rule winter fell with? Oh, yeah. Fucked. He jump the question bed. That's okay. Listen to todw the broadcast. You're your own goddamn podcast. It's another. I mean, I I meant sands. It was going to straight up get rid keep. But where fell fuck, I don't know. He talking about. Winter phil. And that's all I don't think winter Phil become a thing. I think the north I could see Sanga it's difficult for me to imagine her dying it. Yeah. It makes more sense. She she embodies whatever fell more than anybody. Now. Yeah. I mean, John is Rome. So far that he's. Yeah. He has no desire for any. Like any of those accolades? Yeah. Say's his little clinking ice cubes on real cute. And so you have the question that we got from. I can't read my handwriting now. So I went to go back later and probably augment this. But it looks like Lynn Turkey Turkey at limb chimp has room skiers or is this book at limb Tamale Tamale on Instagram. How how does one recover from episode like the non long night Keila question, Mark. So how do they recover? Yeah. What Keila what are you drink? Yeah. What do you drink to recover from a very strenuous game of thrones episode Taylor? I mean, everything like so right now, we're drinking some seven seven's, but you know. So I will be honest. The last two episodes, I have partied pretty hard before these episodes just random hang out, whatever I will say that that is a huge mistake. 'cause I do not previews before thrones. Because you missed so much stuff. So I had to rewatch today. And I was like, wow, I missed everything. Now, the recovery also don't pre booze or post booze or any boos when you're doing ventures in game podcast. I'm sorry about that guys. Yeah. That's that's going to be on on on trailers. That's on. Yes. But still that was great podcast. Listen to it. I'm scared, but the point is. Any? I am. Ah drinker of everything I'm an equal opportunity drinker. So I love to drink everything. Todd wafford who is the mastermind behind move reviews dot US movie. Yes. And you can also find this on Spotify. And apple podcast. Todd has been known somebody to. Been known to poor pretty strong pours of everything really anytime after show anything Todd pours me, I'm I'm gonna feel recovered because Todd has been known to make pretty strong cocktail time. Goodness. We'd it's time like you go. It's okay. I think that's in public domain. Oh, is it? You're good to go. Whatever let's not do a full maintenance of that. But Todd is the full Meam of like, if your friends don't pour drinks that are going to kill you. Are they even your friends? Yeah. No, basically, there's a Todd port hashtag Todd poor is if he's just like if he starts giggling while he's pouring you drink. Uber or pull out a sleeping bag. I try to do the red wedding on my friends livers cheat, it is a fictive. It's a full on massacre. Yeah. If Tatas his Goto is seven and seven you say, no, it's it's seven seven it should be fourteen. It's more like sound. If you don't have plans the next day, drink one of his seven seven's. Yeah. It's like, it's like snake juice? Mr. rep poisons, I think, okay? So the correct answer to the question that was asked. What do you drink or how do you end off night? Like, the correct answer is for minute goat's milk. That's what you drink. However. Yeah. Seven seven. It's close second. Yeah. I mean, if we need horn drink this out, and I've been doing a lot of Keila and wine recently. And if you can fuck it do trifecta you've earned it. It's a Sunday night. They don't have work in the morning. Treat yourself. The one thing I do love game of thrones. They put it in the reality. I just love they drink. So much wine is red wine, by the way, they. The excessive amount of wine they drink. I just love that. I love it so much and I shared a maim. I think with you guys may may what did you tear? Can we sure this move on? Can we turn his mic down? The. So many did a wind count of the top ten game. Thrones wine drinkers saying you Sanya Sanzo was in last with eight glasses. Consumed Sanyu or eight ish. Jon snow was at ten. Walter Frei was at ten fan. Great joy eleven rob Rathi and twelve Braun thirteen Fanti wins. He said. Then those great joy. Continue. Taiwan. Lancaster, fourteen the hound sixteen in second place. Serfaty twenty eight glasses in first place. Tyrian Lancaster ninety four. Glad he's. Yeah. Why he's probably going to. And that's not that's not counting all of what he was drinking. I think that's just since battle of winter fill that doesn't that doesn't include him drinking with various or him drinking at the beginning of the episode doing his old Tyrian. I've never just just good to see Brienne smile. I agree. So round the Horne real quick our theories on the next episode travel start with you. So clearly. Battle for king's landing. It's whether or not like one hundred percent, Danny is going to alight on the red keep with drug on and just do some work. Because of the house of the undying. I think it's now ash instead of snow that we saw there. I think she's going to bring ruin to a good part. I think she might go full on mad Queen. She might need to get killed during setups owed. And that these six episode is dealing with the fallout. We're gonna I think Amelia Clark is on record as saying that episode five game of thrones is where everything gets fucking bash. It crazy. And and it feels like the whole of the last episode of the season is quick wrap up and just to get everything going. I really hope that there is a last gasp of some kind of night king shit because if that is it if we one hundred percent done it is so anti climactic or maybe any part of night Kane Lor if brand has to become the night king. I need to see something else or I'm gonna be very upset. I'm not going to be lost upset, but still gonna be payer. Yeah. I'm the exact same way. I think this last episode. I really really like the fact that I felt like now everybody has a personal vendetta against you have John. You've got Danny of great worm. You have give hound of aria. Jamie like bran. You have so many now personal vendettas against this one person. So they just opened the floodgates up. Yeah. And I think we're kind of talking about it. I feel like the mystique or the fantasy has just gone away. And so I had all these theories of like, oh, who's the Nike who's not the only other thing that I might have thought that could have happened is. Jon snow. You know who clearly does not want to. He doesn't want anything to do with it. I don't want the crown on the throne. I don't want anything, you know, if there's some way for him. But again, Travis probably point when you see next week episodes mean or the teaser, he's clearly there looking up at I think the red keep I mean, he's he's looking at king's landing Johnson. Yeah. John snow? So he's there already. Yeah. But you're on mix of look up to the sky. It's like what the hell is that? So we don't know what's happening. But the same time, it's like, you know, there are so many questions to be answered. And I I fear that they're just going away from fantasy from now on, but I want to see something with the night king or dragon glass where psych, hey, when he massive help someone has to help us. And who knows if it's like, hey brand. You ain't do shit nude. There was like paperweight is a I'm putting this dragon glass in you. I need you to become the new Nike, and I need you to send resurrect all this shit. And we gotta go. We gotta go. You know, we gotta go south gotta go south or Jon snow, you saving everything. Hey, I don't want to be with my aunt on't. I don't be with her. I love her know screw that shit. The children of the forest force people like, hey. Yet to create somebody to you need somebody to protect you against man. Right. Well, she's kind of a man and you're on like fuck that. But that dragging glass of my heart, and I'll become the night king. So I. I want that fantasy that happen. But I fear. It's not gonna happen. So and honestly, they opened this while episodes so much they opened so many stories like everybody has a personal vendetta against her. See right now. So it's going to be really super interesting to see what's going to happen. Interject one last time. I'm sorry. Real quick. I totally forgot about this. Danny has Dario new Horace two point. Oh with the second Suns mercenary guild over an Esso's. She could call them back over Yara, and whatever is left for ships could come over and be like all right sweet. So our we've gotten our edge back again. I kind of also think that Danny might be like, you know, what west rose isn't what I thought it was going to be I grew up in Esso's. I think I'm going to go back over there and rule. Kyw marine. I mean, she said, and then if you could leave it to John or whoever and then go back to SOS, and they could co rule continents together. I mean, she said like I saw the look I've seen that look before back in the day. The look people give you is not, you know, I I don't get that. Look you're in the north. Yes. Yes. She she has not received a warm. Welcome Todd to thoughts. I think that Taylor are you? Okay. Okay. You. You want to see him back up. I'll set this chair up for you. Nia right. Attila just one hundred percent fills ways. Did you pick that up on the Mike? No Travis is was an unreliable narrator. Just saying this is. Hersi not believe what he says. He's an unreliable get you a water why fake through my phone? To thoughts. The thing. I thought that came up with last night, I told my wife Jo time put them knife. Again, Travis is pure fiction. That got Taylor. Pure fiction fiction. There are birds who attack their prey under the water. They swooped down and come up out of the water and flyway. I think that what you're seeing your on grey joy reacting could be drove on coming in under the water. They're looking to the sky this rumbling and all of a sudden behind them. He comes out of the fucking water and scorch is all of them alive. I love it. My thought number two is this show is all about symmetry this show is all about constructing scenes and episodes with symmetry it's all about calling back to what happened before my theory. And I'm gonna throw this. It's not this episode, but it's a series as a whole I feel like this show close with this like opened with some people maybe torment, maybe ghost at maybe Johnson, whoever discovering a new batch of white walkers and what they've done. Rebooting like restarting everything again like oh my God. They're still here continuing cycle hundred percent agree. We've maybe touch on that once or twice podcast one hundred percent agree because torment I mean, somebody maybe torment and goes I feel like they go north and they're like oh shit. Yeah. And they've got a rush can be like. Yeah. Forgot about because I mean, let's be honest George are Martin. It's like y'all Himely feel writing in this book. But can I get a couple million dollars? It was like could you run me a check? And it was like. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. We got this. We got. I mean, I mean, I mean look at them. Harry Potter and one of them had that entire book. But you know, they built a for everything Lord of the rings. Like, I mean, let's be honest. I love Peter Jackson. But it's like hey of the rings. Get us an extra paycheck into to the hobbit. Let's the hot right. It's like that. So I be like, hey, give killing it. And we are this is what we are saying, let's just add into this. So I could totally see that. Megs again, they named the entire show game of thrones. Which is actually just the name of the first book the entire alike book series is called a song of ice and fire and a song of ice and fire can be applied to several different things one. It can totally be John stark by himself tar Garin and stark winter and blood and flame or whatever he could be the song. Vice and fire. It could be Danny as fire John as partial stark or whatever working in the north being on the wall there love story could be song of ice and fire. There's several different like there've been a myriad ways that that has been applied to the story. Those are only two there's several other ones that I read about. Although I'm fairly activate. Aww, seven seven, and I can't remember what Rita four other ones. Don't talk about. Thank you tied. So this is been another episode of cinema vino keep tuning in a promise where we're normal ish. And we love you guys. Yeah. Keep drinking and keep listening. Stole my sign off last time creepy and crimes from critical role. 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