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A Complete List of Trump’s Pardons and Commutations
"Today. Donald Trump continued his full on assault. On the rule of law pardoning and commuting the sentences of several high profile criminals he notably included former Illinois governor. Rod Blagojevich was convicted of trying to sell Barack Obama's Senate seat vacated because he was elected president in exchange for campaign contributions. Begovic had served eight years of a fourteen year prison sentence. You may also remember the governor from the apprentice where he messed up the Harry Potter Challenge and got fired Donald Trump. We'll technically by the apprentice producers today the President Communities Sentence Response Members of the Illinois House Republican delegation released a saying quote. We're disappointed by the president's commutation of Robert Mugabe of federal sentence. Begovic is the face of public corruption in Illinois. And not once has he shown any remorse for his clear undocumented. Record of egregious crimes that undermined the trust placed in him by the voters. Nbc News Correspondent. Tom Winter reminds us are eating. A jury found him guilty of trying to extort the CEO of Children's Memorial Hospital for a donation in exchange for increasing the payments to doctors. Who took care of Specialty Care Kids? Oh but Donald Trump was not done there he also pardoned former New York police department. Commissioner Bernard Kerik pleaded guilty to eight felony charges including tax fraud and lying to White House officials. Carrick was nominated by George W Bush to be the Secretary of Homeland Security before withdrawing that nomination just a week later. The judge gave a longer sentence than agreed to the plea deal saying quote. I think the damage caused by Mr Carrick is in some ways. Immeasurable trump also pardoned bond. Trader Michael Milkin. So guy considered to be the face of insider trading in the nineteen eighty S. Milton was originally charged with ninety eight. Federal counts including racketeering. He pleaded guilty to six felony charges of securities fraud conspiracy. He was sentenced to ten years in prison. He also paid six hundred million dollars in fines and restitution at sentencing. The judge said quote when a man of your power in the financial world repeatedly conspires to violate and violate securities and tax laws in order to achieve more power and wealth for himself and his wealthy clients. A significant president prison term is required in order to deter others others receive clemency from trump today glued former San Francisco Forty niners owner Edward debartolo junior. Who pleaded guilty in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight two concealing an extortion attempt involving the governor of Louisiana David Savvy and the former Bush administration official who was sentenced to a year in prison for lying about his association with Jack? Abramov June grown the owner of a Mental Health Care Company. Who was serving a thirty five year prison sentence for running? A two hundred. Five million dollar Medicare fraud scheme to be clear. This is the president who spent the last six months arguing. He so pose corruption. He had to make sure. Ukrainian president was to by withholding credit grudgingly approved military aid unless you launch fake investigation into the Biden's and route around Kremlin source conspiracy theory tourist findings but somehow this group of liars an extortionist and swindlers is the group of people. Trump felt deserve clemency. Maybe it's just a coincidence. That trump is pardoning these felons as the sentencing yet. Another one of his criminal pals looms earlier today. Trump tweeted about the judge in the trial of his longtime friend and advisor. Roger Stone suggesting stone deserved a new trial. Not long after the judge ruled stone. Sentencing hearing we'll go on that's planned on Thursday. Although she did say Roger. Stone's sentence will not begin until after she rules on his request for a new trial. Trump's interference with the stone cases. Troubled the Federal Judges Association so much that they called an emergency meeting tomorrow to address it and joining me now. For more on the president's pardoning spree. Today's Walter Dellinger. He was formerly formerly the acting. Solicitor General and also the head of the office of Legal Counsel at the Department of Justice under president. Bill Clinton Mr Dellinger. What do these pardons say to you as somebody who worked in in at high levels in justice in the United States? Well I think the show that we're really at the at the end of being a country that believes in equal justice under law there was no process to see how these crimes and these sentences compared with others who remain in prison. It's the president's own whim when a president acts by Wim and says he did of the Goya Vich. I wanted wife on television that that is an assault on the rule of law. But it goes much deeper than that. This is part of a three pronged assault on low as we know it. It involves threats of criminal prosecution of political opponents. Those investigate you. It involves promises that the president will intervene on behalf of those who commit crimes on his behalf and it. The third leg of this assault is his attack on judges and jurors in cases in which he's involved there is there's a banana republic aspect to it as you said that if you're friends with the president or on his TV show you get a pardon no matter what you've done and if you cross him in any way you might end up being prosecuted and we know that William Bar doesn't seem to be opposed to doing that but they're also does seem to be kind of a sort of Ross statement of power that Donald Trump is saying that if you commit these particular kinds of crimes that are against the Public. Trust that our financial in nature that are about corruption when he himself was impeached for corruption. It almost as sort of I don't know it almost feels like a message about that too about the fact that he's saying no no. I'm going to use of dive into corruption and revel in it. That's a good point Jordan. He treats he treats very high status people as if they're high status is a mitigation of their crops. When in fact it is an exacerbation that makes him so much worse. When you're a privileged person take for example. The fact that he has intervened on behalf of someone who was this got to be the national security adviser and lied about an investigation not just any investigation an investigation into a foreign military powers intervention. Our election. He intervened on behalf of someone who has been a prominent associated with President. Said is Roger Stone Who who committed five categories of lies and engaged in what the first department memo said was a relentless multi year attempt to again and obstruct justice in terms of an investigation into the corruption and the election and then finally the sympathy for someone. Who had the Honora being governor of one of our largest states? And who is thoroughly corrupt? And who sold a position in the United States Senate? Now that's he treats those because high status people as mitigation of their crops. And would it surprise you if the after to the things that Donald Trump does as well when it surprised if he's setting up there's been a lot of questions about whether he might try to part himself like if he's ever found to have committed some crime and that would certainly make himself the biggest part of the mall. I think he would undoubtedly attempt to pardon himself and everyone around him. He certainly let it be known that if a if he's re-elected or or even in the period after he was defeated he is GonNa take care of Of of everyone he knows including himself. I think the courts would reject hisself pardon but you know no presents ever tried that before so we can't be sure and the way in which he he seems to revel in the fact that he could take someone like sheriff. Joe Arpaio a law enforcement officer who is targeting Latinos for harassment and using the power of the police deliberately against a minority group and he pardoned him of criminal contempt of court that the way in which he plays with this. I think Dolly Elliptic who some times on this show referred to the `constitutionalisation of narcissism is what we face in this country. Yeah IT DONALD. Trump wants credit of also doing first step back kinds of criminal justice reform. He wants credit for that. But but do you sense in the pardons that he's doing especially today that the real message here is his own power right that he's essentially saying if you're powerful and you're my friend that is actually how you get a justice not by being somebody who was falsely accused of a crime or got too long of a sentence for having marijuana or something like that. That's why there's absolutely the absolute absence of any sense that the people pardoned held they compared with the culpability and the sentences of the tens and tens of thousands who remain in federal prison. The idea that he can act on on Mir welcome. I think something we've never seen the president before you know. Some people are going to raise the a Bill Clinton's pardon of financier and fugitive Bark Rich. And that was the worst thing. Bill Clinton did in eight years and an office is unjustified pardon but Donald Trump is taking it to a very different level where he's using the levers of the of the power of his office in order to corrupt law threatening opponents rewarding those who would commit crimes on his behalf going after judges and jurors in. I don't know where we go from here. I think we two thousand former prosecutors not just signed a letter but perhaps to think about blocking the willing to be arrested blocking the entrance of the Justice Department out. You have to use your imagination where we go from here Walter Dellinger. Thank you very much really appreciate your time and joining me now. For more. On the president's pardoning Spree Matthew Miller former chief spokesperson for the Department of Justice who's down MSNBC Justice analyst and Betsy Woodruff Swan Politics reporter at the daily beast and she's also an MSNBC contributor. So let's talk about sort of where where he could go from here and where and what it means and I'll start with where he could go from here. Betsy because is there any reporting on how much more of this because it does appear that there is a pattern? Somebody is either you know his friend or was on the apprentice goes on Fox News and pleads for his help he immediately responds to his friends and gives them a pardon. Who's who might be next on the list. I spent the afternoon talking to people who identify or describe themselves as allies of Roger Stone and they said that they saw the spate of clemencies that came down today as very comforting to them. Because they believe it's a signal. The President is sending that Roger. Stone may be next in line for this type of executive action. I thought your use of the phrase Banana Republic was really interesting because a federal judge. Us that exact same phrase in a transcript that was recently released from a closed door hearing regarding the investigation. That's now closed into Andrew McCabe and the judge literally said that the fact that trump was tweeting about McCabe so often the fact that he appeared to be interfering in that process created the appearance of a Banana Republic. So the thing to keep an eye on both the president of course granting clemency to people who he views as his political allies in part because he sees them on Fox News and the inverse of that which is the president encouraging DOJ to weaponize itself against people who he sees as his foes. And I'm glad also that Mister Diligent Joe Arpaio because they're also sort of symbolic arden's of people who are hurting the People Donald Trump's base wants to see hurt.
"walter dellinger" Discussed on All In with Chris Hayes
"I think on on the part of the Democrats on the committee. They wanted to par section fifteen twelve he would say that's not a crime to direct the White House counsel to lie. Well, it's utterly as chuckled. It will will agree. It's utterly consistent with the role of the of the president or have him in a feeling with an ongoing criminal investigation unthinkable as well as suggesting or directing who they ought to be prosecuting that that is a violation of a norm that has been respected by attorneys, John and presidents of both political parties he also played out the Sierra play this bit a sound. Which basically if the president believes he's being falsely accused the constitutional authority to quash any mestigation himself at any time as just as a theoretical principle to which Mr. bar adheres. Take a listen. In this situation of the president who has constitutional authority to supervise proceedings if in fact, a preceding was not well-founded if it was groundless proceeding if it was based on full Saleh Gatien's. The president does not have to sit there constitutionally and allow it to run its course the president could terminate that proceeding, and it would not be corrupt intent because he was being full-sleeve accused seems like constitutional authority supervised proceedings and falsely accuser bowl too. And a lot of work. That's the groundless preceding exception to the obstruction of Justice statute, which you will find by the way nowhere in the obstruction of Justice. So that seems to me and Walters expertise forgotten more than I would ever know about article too. But a real bus reading of article two that I think is just at odds with the law and with common sense. All right, Chuck, Rosenberg and Walter Dellinger. Thank you both. I appreciate it. Thank you for more on the attorney general stunning performance. Danjuma Harry Lipman formulas attorney for the western district of Pennsylvania, and a former deputy assistant attorney general MSNBC legal analysts mile Wiley, former assistant US attorney now senior vice president of social Justice. At the new school. It's interesting to hear Chuck Rosenberg. Walter down your say that both individuals who really do have a I think fidelity to the institution, the department of Justice and aren't. Aren't given to that language it. Yeah. But also, I mean, the performance city was so contemptuous of congress in general, and anyone sort of second guessing him, it was this performance of bravado. That was I think that was a striking than anything else. But I think he's demonstrated bravado since he it put put forth that summary of the Malla report because anytime you start with half a quote from the special counsel. And that the part of the quote that you omit is the part that says although Russia interfered in I mean, why would we have an interest isn't country in not confronting the fact that Robert Muller found interference in election by Russians that seems to me not a partisan issue..
"walter dellinger" Discussed on AM Joy
"Walter Dellinger law professor at Duke University, and Glenn Kirschner. Former federal prosecutor I'm just gonna go around the start at the table here. Joyce. We're not supposed to be shocked anymore. I guess I don't know if we need to continue being shots maintain our humanity. But William Barr now appears to be simply reading from the script that Michael Cohen used to read from you know, it's incredible. The one person leaves side Donald Trump for minute. The one person that we know Bob Miller did not exonerate is flat. Amir putin. Right. Right. No that Russia tried to interfere with our elections. So now, we have an attorney general who is hyper focused on looking over the shoulder of maybe even investigating the people who were all the time trying to hold the Russians at bay bar is in that job for primarily one reason to preserve the integrity and the independence of the Justice department. He is not there toady for the president to carry the president's water. But that stir what it looks like he's doing, and, you know last night, the president was using the spine language are used on Capitol Hill for fundraising yet bar has not come out and walked that back. And so he now owns. That Walter Dellinger Adam Schiff, who's the chairman of the house intelligence committee said of bar in political yesterday the post Watergate protections are being broken down one at a time. It looks like the president is well on his way to having his own ROY Cohn. After all, I mean, really cone was the fixer who's willing to do anything for his clients legal in skirting legality that is what Adam Schiff now likens the attorney general of the United States to how far I mean, aren't we at constitutional crisis? If that's the case. It is a very distressing moment. I have not been more distressed, and the very long years of my professional life about what is happening to our constitutional system. And the and the spy gate was just a culmination of a series of truly inexplicable actions taken by by Bill bar. He advised me when I took over the office of legal counsel, which he had had it. I had a lot of respect for him. So and was actually thought of brother good nominee of this administration for attorney channel. But I've just been dismayed by his actions. You know, I mean Joyce's put it very, well, look, here's what happened. The the intelligence agencies had information that the Russians were interfering massively with our presidential election. They followed the Russians the Russians marched right into Trump Tower metaphorically, and that's where the intelligence agencies followed them and reported on it. So I. I'm just just made a series of steps that he's taken and find them inexplicable and Glenn let me play before. I let me play William bar and this moment where he suddenly unleashed the spying mean that usually comes from Trump and his friends, but here is William bar thing. It. I think spying on a political campaign is a big deal to big deal..
"walter dellinger" Discussed on All In with Chris Hayes
"Map process where he was turning over the evidence. So that the congress could make political decisions since the legal decision has been taken away from him by the office of legal counsel saying you cannot indict the president. Then there's no point in making a recommendation on indictment. But there is a reason to give the information to congress. And so that's my first question is is that what he was thinking. And the second is why is William buyer. Taking the attitude that he has to study this a long time. It's only to help the president the longer. This is delayed in becoming public, and it would not take very long to go to the court. The district court and ask the chief judge to acknowledge that there is a public interest in releasing the grand jury testimony. That's again what we did in Watergate. And it didn't take long for the judge in that case to say, yes, it is in the public interest. And there is an exception to the grand jury, which Walter Dellinger referred to that allows the public release of grand jury testimony and every American has a right to know in the case of Watergate, whether the president was a crook as he said, he wasn't and in this case, whether the president has done something that is really so terrible that he cannot be trusted to head the American government. And so I'd like to know what those two questions are and get going with that quickly. Jill you. Do you think what? Walter donors said that with a committed team. You can get this ready in days, not weeks or months, you agree with that. Yes. I mean, I think there are easy. Questions of classified information that's easy to identify and remove in terms of grand jury testimony. It can all be released unless it in some way endangers a ongoing investigation since all of Muller's investigations are done. It's only if it affects something that has been handed off to a nother prosecutor and those are easy to identify. So the rest of it is there's no reason not to release it can be released. It certainly can be released to congress. But again, I think the public needs to know and congress needs to have public hearings. It's not enough to read the report we need to see the witnesses. And that's something that only congress can do. Now, we'll see if congress pursues that you'll on banks and tasha version. Thank you both coming up Republicans. Reveal their answer to do a climate change and features Ronald Reagan riding a dinosaur firing automatic rifle the stunt vote in the Senate and the green new deal head plus tonight's being one.
"walter dellinger" Discussed on The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell
"Yeah. And so I think what you're saying. And you're in you're normally careful, and even nice way is this is mad sloppy. And Rudy was not retained. As a lawyer in that period, he was a campaign surrogate. And so he's sort of cracked the door now now whether he gets in trouble for it, or whether molar doesn't care about the eighty seventh interview is is an open question. Jennifer. We heard earlier today on MSNBC from Walter Dellinger who was solicitor general who argued the Jones Clinton case, which has some precedent that tends to cut against presidents in terms of their efforts to avoid interviews and prosecutors, and such and here's what he said to me earlier tonight about the idea that Miller may ultimately subpoena Trump in two thousand nineteen. If the special counsel wants to know, what Donald Trump state of mind is he's considering perhaps even just been aiming him as an unindicted co-conspirator. He needs to interview the president until you could easily take expedited case on a grand jury Cepeda of the president for his testimony up to the supreme court. They could hear that case. Could also hear a case involving the house's decision if it comes to that to subpoena. The mullahs report Jennifer, do you think this is something that the White House is still worried would be on the table? I think so listen Rudy is not the real lawyer Trump does have we'll lawyers they're not very good. But he does have lawyers back there, and they are smart enough. Even they on to understand that the law is not on their side between USB Nixon, and the Paula Jones case the judicial systems right to obtain evidence from a president to put him under oath to get information is. Unfairly solid ground. Now. Could he take an appeal to the supreme court and with his two appointees, perhaps get a different ruling perhaps? But he's on out of the woods yet. I disagree slightly with Walter on one thing, and that is Trump may actually have revealed a good deal of the state of his mind through his tweets through his actions, and in those written questions, so Trump has a way of telling us exactly what he's thinking what he's doing. And why so it may be that? It's not as important as it would be with another witness to get Trump under oath. But frankly, I think if Muller feels are there from sense of completeness or because he really is lacking some facts that he needs to put him under oath and take his testimony. I don't think he'd hesitate to do it at all a Joyce another story that's making waves today, which Michael Cohen was quick to publicly and unequivocally deny is this reporting that maybe there were cell. Phoned Ping's that would somehow Lincoln back to Prague. He's denied it those reporters stand by their story. Mcclatchy several them about discussing their story tonight. I take a listen to how one of the reporters described it on all in..
"walter dellinger" Discussed on The Beat with Ari Melber
"It's the kind of thing that it's like fight club. You're not supposed to talk about it that much. You certainly not supposed to talk about whether the banks. Don't have enough money that freaks people out. And so I wonder if again, this is also the buck stops in the Oval Office. Donald Trump pick certain bankers that he liked because because he knew they rich from New York, and they may have been good at banking. I'm not sure that they were good at doing what the government side is which is being clear and measured. When you try to address the markets didn't help matters much when the president talked to talk very mean about the head of the Federal Reserve and hinted at at firing him, which you can't do. But nevertheless, we do know that Wall Street. There's a lot of reasons why the market goes up and down. But, but we know that Wall Street hates. The hates ins uncertainty, and we have a lot of uncertainty right now with a president who makes a lot of comments that he may only have believed, but they sound good. So he's says them and the warning or rather the the comfort that Steve Mnuchin try to give was kind of like the surgeon general coming out and saying we are fully prepared for zombie apocalypse. Don't worry about it at all, folks. What's going to happen? Everybody's going to be apocalypse on their minds now, and you can have a panic without intending to that certainly happens on Wall Street. Yeah. And we're just seeing jitters, and it's not to suggest by any means that what's happening in the markets is the whole economy, the real economy, etc. But it certainly seems like it has been super sized by completely avoidable unnecessary actions in savings by Donald Trump and some of his aides now Clarence of good news for you, and perhaps for some of us, which is this CNBC. Portion of the beat is now over I want you both to stay with me. And I'm going to add another guest as we get into some of the other wider issues tonight, the chaos roiling Trump world is happening, of course, against the backdrop of these investigations, and there's one ongoing mystery that's involved. This cryptic case. That is now potentially headed to the supreme court. It's reportedly, but not confirmed, but reportedly linked to Bob Muller. Chief Justice John Roberts ruling unnamed foreign company has until Monday to explain why it's resisting the jury subpoena the case winding through the legal system. Meanwhile, Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani using the holiday week. He didn't he didn't have to do this release. But but he chose to getting back out there and saying, well, you know, when he wants said Trump might agree to more written answers to molar. Well, that's over. Do you expect that he's going to have to answer more questions in writing? Well, I think announced about ten days ago over my dead body. I'm not dead yet. So. Not answers that as a foreigner not answering any more questions from these people. They're outrageous activity. I'm you know, we did enough. This comes one day. After Giulani was reiterating the negotiations over a deeper interview, for example in person had not been quote, formally closed. The loop hasn't been closed. I want to bring in now one of the nation's preeminent legal experts. Walter Dellinger represented the United States in the supreme court during the Clinton administration. He argued Clinton v Paula Jones, when the Justice ruled that a sitting president can be forced to deal with civil court, which includes of course, depositions and the like he's also making the case in the Washington Post that a grand jury should be permitted potentially to consider indicting, a sitting president great to have you here tonight, sir. Thanks, right. I know that as someone who's arguing for the supreme court, which which most people don't get this even see most lawyers. Don't get to do. You're gonna. Quite careful about a sealed matter, but I wonder what your view is given the few clues we have about this mysterious grand jury subpoena that John Roberts now has has put a deadline on. Well, I think it's relatively straightforward in the sense that there is a foreign corporation. They government owned subsidiary that is resisting turning over its records to the Muller investigation, claiming the disa- foreign sovereign that has some immunity from US legal processes that is not likely to be a winning argument in a criminal case..
"walter dellinger" Discussed on Slate's The Gist
"So I guess the big question for about twelve twenty four hours was was it a wave was it an oscillation was it? The kind of big sweeping wave was at a wave. I would say it was a way of I would say the Democrats should own it. I would not believe anyone who wouldn't call it a wave. So we're going to do. Now. I say Hello. I'm Mike Pesca this Dahlia and Jamal and gym each of us will hold forth about our impressions of the wise or the what now is or wherever else we want to take it. So this called laying the predicate, and then they have some more specific questions w you may begin. Thank you. And thank you all for coming out. This was certainly the only election. I remember people Democrats being fired up about like state attorneys general races. Now, we're talking about the state AG. And I was like right because this actually as. Turns out really matters. But it does in a weird way. I lead us down this path of you know, I remember Walter Dellinger who is acting solicitor general under Clinton wrote this great piece for us a couple years ago just saying we are headed in eggs rudely to red states and blue states like to to America's and part of me. Just feels like there's something. I oh, no Jamila. Tell me why I'm wrong. But there's something there's something deeply Jerry being like. Okay. Screw it y'all. We're going to, you know, good luck getting your abortion and Mississippi, but here in California. Everything's sparked me here in California. We give you abortion coupon. I mean, it's beautiful. And there's something I see that makes a certain amount of sense. But it feels a little Hanky inside to say it if you feel like if you are a liberal progressive leftist who has a vision of sort of like an American social democracy. It is a failure. If we. End up in a situation where state support is entirely patchwork Griff, you're lucky if if you're lucky enough to be born in California, and Texas if you're lucky enough, he born in Maryland in Virginia versus North Carolina and South Carolina, then you'll have access to robust they benefit. And if you're not then good luck. You know? I do think that there is as much countervailing information about us trending towards red states and blue states because if I were to say over the last four elections. All right. Tell me the states that are definitely trending red. You might come up with a bunch of these states in the industrial midwest that just went blue. And if I were to say alright gimme the state. I'll grant you the deep south. But gimme the big state. That's going to be read for a long long time and pretty much be this dug in a dictator of where we're going. Well, you'd say Texas, and there's a decent amount of information. Although let's talk about that that Texas. Although there hasn't been a winner of a state wide race for the last. Ninety seven elections like yours here. It's since one thousand nine hundred four, but I went and counted all the Agee's all the land commissioners, who's now George Bush junior every race for a court in Texas since one thousand nine hundred four Democrats are over ninety seven. So let's stipulate that but they're coming back baby. No. But it does seem that this. So again, my thesis is that are we trending towards red and blue quick tell me the way the trends are going, and I think we have as much opposite information as we have confirming information, I mean, you know, you can't say forever about anything. But for for the foreseeable future. We are getting rhetoric blurred. You can just see that. In the divergence between the house and Senate results. I mean, there was an over performance among Democrats in some suburban districts, but there was a like a very big over performance among Republicans in red states. I mean, all these polls that had Indiana and Missouri close they were not close at all. And John tester. He won. But he won by a smaller margin. He was projected to. Yeah. Same with Joe Manchin Arizona's law, closer, Florida. We don't really know what's happening in Florida. But it's definitely closer than the poll said, so I mean, I, you know, if you look at states where? The sort of the percentage of the population. That's white is sort of staying the same not diversifying it all those are becoming redder states. I mean, Ohio, they elected share and Brown grant..
"walter dellinger" Discussed on KGO 810
"Yes before we talk about impeachment is in your opinion and in the council that you hold in particular is it possible for the the president to be indicted while in office by a special counsel or fbi or i guess justice is it possible to indict a sitting president yes it is possible to india sitting president the question is whether that indictment than goes forward with a with a process and a trial or whether it's held over until after the president might be removed for an actual criminal proceeding the argument for why the president should not be it would be indicted is that he would then be consumed entirely with the defense proceedings in that criminal trial and would not be doing the public interest but in fact walter dellinger very well respected constitutional scholar wrote near times just the other day how an indictment could be issued and held over until after such time the presence no longer in office so it is not out of the question that you know our mahler may find cause to indict the president but i i think it's more likely that our dollar is going to issue a report to congress about the president's criminal violations if he finds them that being said the overwhelming evidence is already there for an impeachment investigation these are crimes against the state abuse of power abuse of public trust that are separate and apart from whatever our mahler fines criminal investigation john that we've already seen it mitch mcconnell at evidence of russian interference.
"walter dellinger" Discussed on Slate's Political Gabfest
"Subject is he had target right exactly all those things are too i mean i think john the answer to your question is i mean i think that trump has to testify i think the supreme court precedent on the nixon tapes makes that clear but if trump wants to challenge that he can go to the supreme court and we can get a definitive answer to whether the president hasta obey a subpoena or a request for testimony a special prosecutor you know bill clinton decided to do it and didn't push the question to the wall and yes i suppose trump could plead the fifth and that would be fascinating given that we're not so to go back to this question of whether the president can be indicted what's going on in that context no clear supreme court law at all but a justice department memo from nineteen seventythree renewed in two thousand which says briefly that the justice department has concluded that the president cannot be prosecuted and then i think just in a sentence or two it includes the word indictment in there that you know muller will feel bound by that memo walter dellinger of former solicitor general for clinton made an interesting argument a week or two ago that actually the president could be indicted because you have to you have to that's the only way to preserve the criminal charges because otherwise like the time for them could elapse and so you could indict a president even if you can't force him to go through a trial but that you know from muller's point of view indicting the president is not a by the books move and i think that's why we all think it's so unlikely that he's going to take it upon himself to do that can i ask a question about that amalie the justice department memo off of the council memo that you're talking about is that referring only to federal indictment and a federal prosecution can estate does this any of this apply to a state of the state of new york take the evidence that's been gathered insofar as it applies to a crime that might have been committed new york and and really i don't think we know the.
"walter dellinger" Discussed on AM 870 The Answer
"We have great educational programmes for all uh for for all members of the bar in as tom mentioned it is is one third members of the plaintiff's bar in one third members of the defence bar and onethird of the jurists from from the local community we have five thousand members statewide and 1200 lawyers who joined up in signed on to the civility guidelines and joined the association of business trial ores here in los angeles that the educational programmes at tom mentioned for example range from justice scalia two two erin brockovitch schramm candidates star and solicitorgeneral to that the solicitorgeneral under bill clinton walter dellinger we have focus on on the trials of key business case such as the recent barbie brats in a dispute so i think it's an important organisation in our state and our communities very lucky to have it a quick reminder that you're listening to champions of justice with tom girardi and jack garate our guest today is attorney david batallion tom a nice thing happen to us this lawyer call me a couple of months ago and he said tom uh something felon cracks we didn't elect experts the times blowing we the order was we had to elect him as well what do you mean by elect are under the law dave dean of their restrictions on lawyers if you're going to call an expert a trial and all these cases require experts trial you have to give notice of the names of those experts at a particular time period off and that lets the other side may be deposed them uh check them out at cetera so the guy says i'm toast because if they don't have experts to the whole things over with him so i said well why don't you elect him oh no of the time it as it go ahead elected dour and experts i said we may not have time to take their devils maybe give me a little report about what they're going to say he hangs up he calls me back he said why did you do that i said well i quite osce i didn't do it for you or did it for my client let's suppose you don't give to do the experts and let suppose were successful at trial then the insurance company that you represent they won't pay they said the reason we lost his because of.
"walter dellinger" Discussed on AM 870 The Answer
"Place we have great educational programmes for all uh for for all members of the bar in as tom mentioned it is is one third members of the plaintiff's bar and one third members of the defence bar in one third of the jurists from from the local community we have five thousand members statewide and 1200 lawyers who joined up and signed on to these civility guidelines and joined the association of business trial ores here in los angeles that the educational programmes at tom mentioned for example range from justice scalia two two erin brockovitch from kenneth starr and general to that the solicitorgeneral under bill clinton walter dellinger we have pocus on on the trials of key business case such as the recent barbie brats dispute so i think it's an important organisation in our state and our community is very lucky to have it a quick reminder that you're listening to champions of justice with tom girardi and jack gerardy our guest today is attorney david batallion tom a nice thing happen to us this lawyer call me a couple of months ago and he saddam uh something fell in the cracks we didn't elect experts the time has blown we the order was we had to elect him as well what do you mean by elect are under the law datino their restrictions on lawyers if you're going to call an expert a trial and all these cases require experts trial you have to give notice of the names of those experts at a particular time perry uh and that lets the other side may be deposed them uh check them out at cetera so the guy says on toast because if they don't have experts the whole thing's over with so i said well why don't you elect him oh no of the time with us it go ahead elect the down experts as a we may not have time to take their owes maybe give me a little report about what they're gonna say he hangs up he calls me back he said why did you do that i said well i quite osce i didn't do it for you or did it for my client let's suppose you don't get to do the experts and lit suppose were successful at trial then the insurance company that you represent they won't pay they said the reason we lost his because of your negligence so now you're insurance companies and ball nets my lady.
"walter dellinger" Discussed on KQED Radio
"That is it to clarify that you believe that the the the job the attorney general the deputy attorney general these other individuals the president's criticizing that they can do their jobs i asked you usual that their thority is not undermined after these criticisms from the president walter dellinger judy i don't because i don't think people take criticisms by donald trump the way they with criticism of any other president i don't think that affects the attorney joe stanley within that apart i agree i also think that is walter said jeff sessions to the extent that he's putting is his nose down to the grindstone and getting down to work in accomplishing the other the vast number of other tasks that the department handles will be it admired by those people in in the justice department as as it should it's i think jeff sessions made a very important i think he shouldn't go ahead with the got thinking should not resign i think i think you should not resign because that's exactly what the president wants to do so weakens install some non recused loyalist in the department exactly right and and jeff sessions however awkward it will be to continue continuous service is doing a service to maintain the institution of the department of justice and that is what's important douglas comeback walter dellinger we thank you above uh cia program to aid syrian rebels fighting the regime of bashar al assad will soon be ended by the trump administration tehari serena vossen has that it was a covert program started in 2013 under president obama in the hope so forcing assad from power the news the president trump would end the operation was first reported by the washington post yesterday joining me now for what impact this will have on the conflict in syria is faisal itani a senior fellow at the atlantic council first let's talk about what this what the strategy is behind this move well this is something this is a campaign strategy that such really been rolled back for a long time initially it started as under the obama administration as a tool to pressure on the assad regime military pressure to get them to negotiate the work when the russians came in to syria 2015 those sneaked became really to our became too high for the.
"walter dellinger" Discussed on PBS NewsHour
"Than our history where harry truman was told he couldn't sees the steel mills where ronald reagan was told he couldn't have a lineitem veto unless there was a constitutional amendment where one administration after another said to the president of the united states yes you are chief executive but that means that you must take care that the laws are faithfully executed not that you take care that your objectives are accomplished ear regardless of the law i just want to come back to both of you again with less than a minute and that is it to clarify that you believe that the the the job of the attorney general the deputy attorney general these other individuals the presence criticizing that they can do their jobs i as usual that their authorities not undermined after these criticisms from the president walter dellinger judy i don't because i don't think people take criticisms by donald trump the way they would criticism of any other president i don't think that affects the attorney joe standing within the department i agree i also think that is walter said jeff sessions to the extent that he's putting his and his nose down to the grindstone and getting down to work in accomplishing the other the group the vast number of other tasks that the department handles will be admired by those people in in the justice department as the as it should it's i think jeff sessions made a very important each other's audio at thicky shouldn't.
"walter dellinger" Discussed on PBS NewsHour
"Back to president trump's comments to the new york times yesterday the broadsides aimed at top officials from the justice department raise questions about the president's relationship with attorney general jeff sessions we are joined by walter dellinger he served in the clinton administration as assistant attorney general and acting solicitor general he's now in private practice and former us ambassador douglas comeback he served as legal counsel to presidents ronald reagan and george h w bush is now a professor of constitutional law at pepperdine university law school and we welcome you both back to the program walter dellinger dui how significant are the president's criticisms of top officials that justice well i think they're unprecedented theory appropriateness you know a president should not be become on any particular criminal investigation especially he should not become million one that involves people who are close to him potential family members and yet here the president said that the attorney general should not have recuse himself and should not have been appointed lse had sort of a committed itself not to recuse even though departmental rules would call forward he then criticize the a deputy attorney general for naming a special council which was clearly appropriate and finally he made it clear that he thought that the special council should not enquire into any financial dealings that are outside the scope of the russian campaign all of those seem to be inappropriate for a president unprecedented in something that we send a chill through the entire department of justice douglas comeback inappropriate and likely to send a chelsea the department.
"walter dellinger" Discussed on 1A
"At a campaign related kind of speech for donald trump a our washington hotel that there was some additional interaction with the russian ambassador and and that was all part of what the senate was looking to delve into a yesterday well let's start with debt aspect of his involvement in this investigation mr sessions did recuse himself from the investigation but has said that he did recommend james comey's firing here is part of his testimony from yesterday there was a clear view of mine and von ahn deputy attorney general rosenstein as he sat out at some length in his memoranda which i adopted insent forward to the president that we had problems there and it was my best judgment the a fresh start at the fbi was the appropriate thing on to do all and when i ask god said that to the president is something i had it here to debbie rosen stands ladder dealt with a number of things when the uh mr call me odd the plan that clinton prosecution uh that was really a usurpation of the start of the federal prosecutors in the department of justice that's part of jeff sessions testimony yesterday so walter dellinger and john dean i'd be interested in your reactions to what we just heard jeff sessions referring to problems judging that the fresh start was needed at the fbi and particularly the reference to declining to prosecute hillary clinton over that email scandal calling it a usurpation of the authority of federal prosecutors walter dellinger what did you think of it.
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"In any of your discussion and with all gross out the firing of james comey do the question of the russian investigation ever come up i cannot answer there because he was a communication by the president or if any such occurred it would be a commune gatien that he is not wave so a number of people gesture wilga were struck by the fact that the attorney general would not talk about these conversations he had with the president well i to me that makes perfect sense the privilege belongs to the president that it wouldn't be up to a subordinate official to take it upon himself to waive it by answering the question at that that time and place otherwise the president of loses the ability to assert or preserve the privilege and and you and i were discussing this earlier walter dellinger we were trying to trying to understand to what extent is there a precedent and i i for not answering some of these questions we heard the attorney general save emai at one point he said i think there's even a piece of paper at the justice department that refers to privilege car confidential conversations between the president and the attorney joe it was very well prepared but he didn't bring any such piece of paper with the soup prize because i don't believe there's the privilege of of refusing to answer questions from a congressional committee unless the president's gonna invoke executive privilege even want to say that through a dozen other rations of the question he would simply say it was confidential without asserting any privilege finally he suggested in the committee should follow up on this here are the questions we want answered did you discuss the russian investigation in connection with the firing of komi and if the president then wants to asserted executive privilege he can do so in writing communicated to the committee but if not then the question ought to be answered by the attorney travel and carry cordero this really does get to the heart of a lot of what we're talking about today and that is the president has not so far exerted executive privilege he has not said to the attorney general you cannot answer these questions but the attorney general said at least on two occasions today that he's trying to protect the president's right to later sean.
"walter dellinger" Discussed on KQED Radio
"To be alone with the then fbi director and he didn't seem terribly upset about the fact that the fbi director was concerned the next day when he told him about it right so these mammals that he's talking about this longstanding department of justice policy has to do with a in recent history there was a memo that attorney general mckenzie issued that i air colder issued that restrict the contacts between the white house and the justice department and the fbi investigators on ongoing investigations and so it's it was still an odd answer because given the fact that there was this major invest to gatien going on that the attorney general himself knew that he was recused from it it would be unusual why would the president need to hold back the fbi director about something that the attorney general couldn't be present for other than the russia investigation and other words anything else that the fbi director and the president needed to discuss of a substantive nature one would think the attorney general could be there for george orwell egger what about that well i don't think it's that unusual for a president to talk to an fbi director alone i think it would probably be worth asking a number of former fbi director's if they ever head one on one good conversations with the president even in this in the middle of this kind of an investor yes i mean i think in hindsight anybody that book said it would go would have been better for that not to have occurred but the fact that the president asked a attorney general i i just i mean he's he's a courteous man i think he respected the president's wishes and more than anything judy ice of what came through to meet today more than an attorney general was i saw man who said you're not gonna play political football with my integrity and said that very very firmly even as to that question walter dellinger what did you take away from the hearing overall and what about this specific point about the president asking everybody to clear the room while he talked to james comey well if it what was particularly improper about that conversation was the content of that is the president saying i hope you will in this investigation.
"walter dellinger" Discussed on KQED Radio
"More about that i think lawmakers due to carry johnson as we said uncovers the justice department for npr are only sedation are down at the capitol thank you both and we turn now to our panel of former justice department officials george sure willett or served as deputy attorney general and acting attorney general under president george w bush walter dellinger served in the clinton administration as assistant attorney general and as acting solicitor general and carry corvette aero she served in the justice department under presidents george w bush and president obama where she worked on matters of national security now before i speak with him one issue today was former fbi director combing his testimony about a february meeting in the oval office when everyone else left and the president asked him mm to stay democratic senator mark warner today press the attorney general on that let's listen mr combes testimony last week was that he felt uncomfortable when the president asked everyone else to leave the room he left the impression that you lingered with perhaps a sense that you felt uncomfortable about about it as well well i would just say this roy all we were there are was standing there and without revealing any conversation that took place what i do recall is that i did depart believe everyone else did the part and directed colmey was sitting in front of the president's desk and they were talking so that's what i do remember i believe it was the next day that he said something expressed concern about being left alone with the president but that in itself is not problematic on he did not tell me at that time any details about anything that was said that was improper affirmed his concern that we should be off following the proper guidelines of the department of justice and basically backed him up in his concerns so let's turn now to our three panelist carry cordeiro i'm going to start with you what do you make of that answer that he he will he didn't have an explanation for leaving the room whether he thought that was unusual leaving the oval office when the president wanted.