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So how Sweden now this will be going on for a long time and I think we should wait at least a year before we draw any conclusions which threatened you worked on, which did not I'm Marco Werman also today the defiant Russian opposition leader. Vladimir customers. would be too much of a gift to the Kremlin. If we all just gave up and rat, this is what they want us to do. We're not going to do and the UN General Assembly is underway in New York a virtual meeting this year we take a nostalgic look back at the theatrics when the world leaders are in one room together yesterday the devil came here and it smells of sulfur still today all that and more today here on the world. I'm Marco. Werman. This is the world. Glad you join us today. This is usually the time of year we talk about gridlock in New York City with the UN General Assembly and session not this year the U.. N. G.. A. Is Virtual online only and it's a big one the seventy fifth session of the General Assembly. What is not changed is what it means a chance for world leaders to stand in front of a global. Audience to speak their minds and even get a bit theatrical today's virtual lineup includes president trump along with the presidents of Brazil. China Turkey Russia, and Iran to name a few the theme, the future we want reaffirming our collective commitment to multilateralism. That was not the tone president trump took when he used part of his time today to talk about the corona virus, we must hold accountable the nation which unleashed this plague onto the. World China. In, the earliest days of the virus. China lockdown travel domestically while allowing flights to leave China and infect the world. Michael Green. Has Been Watching the speech is closely today. He's a former National Security Council senior director. For Asia, I asked him what he made of trump's criticism of China today's speech struck me as intended to resonate with his political base at home especially, Fox News and the ECHO. Chamber for his presidential campaign pitched in exactly the wrong way for countries in western Europe Japan Korea Australia India want to work with the US on the China problem they don't trust China, but they don't like the unilateral approach that the trump administration has taken and today's speech pretty much doubled down on that unilateral approach. You were an advisor to former President George, W Bush eff in terms of just Looking at China and how other US presidents have dealt with China especially in an election year do you see much difference where I think the trump administration deserves some credit? Is there the first administration since really the nineteen seventies to say that China is strategic competitor and the American people the Congress on a bipartisan basis that the the Biden campaign most of our close allies agree with that now the. Question is, how do we work together to curtail China's most egregious behaviors whether it's in Hong Kong Xinjiang or on trade, and the answer is by working together and unfortunately the speech at the U. N.. J. Was not about working together. It was really about blaming China in a way that you know even Japan or India that have fierce competition with China are not willing to sign up for it. When you were senior director for National Security under President George W. Bush, did you write the kind of speeches he'd ended up delivering the U. N. G. Yeah we worked on them but even speech like this one for the U. N. G. every part of the NFC that's got a stake in, it would have the pin. So I'm sure the people who Asia policy for President Trump helped craft some of that language in their own comments out about they are pushing a very hard line. They are essentially suggesting that the Chinese Communist. Party is irredeemable almost like the Soviet Union. The there's only ends when the Chinese Communist Party is gone. That is a very stark difference from every previous administration. It's not entirely wrong, but it's not a policy that even our closest allies will sign on for nobody not the Japanese Taiwanese. The Indians nobody is signing on for a policy of regime change of containing China until the Chinese Communist Party collapsed this too much intertwined trade had too many interests in working with China even as people fear China, how much does that? Worry you? Chinese media is. Propagating the idea that president trump is so overblown right now, he might create a war in the Taiwan Strait with China to save his election that's global times and and the somewhat more nationalistic media but it's been stunning to me how many Chinese scholars who I talked to who are pretty level headed actually think it might be true that president trump might actually wanna war to save his election and that that has to be dangerous and what worries me a bit. The other thing that worries me is that the Chinese leadership does not have a good pulse finger for the pulse on the American. Ship we don't have a strategic dog. You know, President Bush was able to talk to his counterparts about any issue Condoleeza Rice, control to China I went with her and sit down one on one with the Chinese leaders and convey President Bush's. Hopes and concerns and his tough messages. Obama had that with Hillary Clinton and the Chinese state councilor. We've always had these channels. We don't have the right now it's not clear to the Chinese who speaks for president trump on any given day, and it's very obvious that the trump administration has very little communication channel to Beijing that lack of crisis management dialogue channel could get us in big trouble. If we have an accident right now and the rhetoric in today's speech certainly doesn't make it easier to establish that kind of channel. Michael Green is a former National Security Council senior director for Asia. He's now at the Center for Strategic and International Studies Michael Good to have you with. US. Thank you. Thank you. I mentioned earlier some of the past theatrics at the UN General. Assembly when there is not a pandemic leaders are face to face the iconic chamber in new. York has been the site of some flamboyant speeches over the years. The world's Jason Margolis takes us down memory. Lane nothing beats the UN General Assembly. In nineteen sixty Soviet leader. Nikita Khrushchev took off his shoe. Waved it in the air then banged it against the table to interrupt a speech at least that's how the story goes. Historians are still debating whether Khruschev, actually banged his loafer or just waved it in the air. This was one, thousand, nine, hundred, sixty. So there's footage of the event to confirm the details. Fast forward to another theatrical moment in two thousand, six Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez. Had some choice words for the American President George W Bush. Yesterday the devil came here. Right here. Right here. souffle it, and it smells of sulfur still today. By the rules speakers are limited to fifteen minutes, but there's no orchestra to play them off if they run long. Eleven years ago Libya's leader Warmer Qaddafi spoke for more than ninety minutes. He ripped into the international body at one point taking out a copy of the Charter of the United Nations reading from it. No, we are not equals and debris. That own nations are equal. Then, from the podium, ripping it up also tossed a piece of paper at Secretary General Ban Ki Moon. Kadhafi's ninety minute speech though was nothing compared to Fidel Castro's performance in one, thousand, nine, hundred, sixty the Cuban leader held the floor for four and a half hours. Then, there are the props Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has done this trick a couple of times including in two thousand twelve brought a diagram for you. He showed a drawing of cartoonish bomb that looked like a cannonball with fuse. The image was divided into sections representing Iran's progress towards enriching enough uranium for a bomb where should a red line drawn? A red line should be drawn. Right here. Another attention-grabbing tactic during UN speeches, the walkout in two thousand eleven Iran's President Mahmoud jarred railed against the United. States, and other Western nations whose mysterious September eleventh incident as a pretext to attack Afghanistan Iraq. Killing injuring dozens of diplomats in the assembly hall weren't having it. They got up out of their seats and left. This year with a pandemic of course, there can be no walkouts with a virtual assembly maybe just diplomats putting someone else on mute. For the world I'm Jason Margolis. Sweden has been the country that a lot of people have loved to hate during the pandemic. It's no lockdown strategy was seen as naive and cruel by some but the World Health Organization has praised Sweden's results a few weeks ago Sweden did massive testing and found a record low infection rate. But now rates are creeping up and Stockholm is considering further measures to contain the virus Dr. Johann Jessica is a Swedish physician and professor at the Karolinska Institute in Stockholm I asked him. If he was concerned about the rise in corona virus cases I, don't think we should look at it at all. If maybe statistic construct generation is going up and down was up a couple of months ago and then down again. So I think we should wait to make a judgment on that. But I mean you you are seeing an increase no yeah. There is an increase and people concerned about the just. So if cases continue to rise in Sweden at what point would you advise Sweden to strengthen its measures like what kind of increase would you need to see before pushing for that? I couldn't say but it's not the time yet to anyway you know that Sweden has come in for some really tough criticism for its no lockdown policy it's something that Swedish officials and professionals have been saying the rest of the world just doesn't understand help us understand the situation. Sweden. What we've had lockdown I call it a soft lock. It builds some voluntary participation by the people. But if you tell people how this disease transmits and what sued since you should avoid, people will listen to you people stupid. You talked about a soft lockdown explain what that actually is it is, for example, as soon as you feel the slightest cold youth stay at how not to go to work. Work at home as much as you can avoid crowded places, there are few legal restrictions a crowd big fifty defeat of, for example, and bus drivers are allowed to deny entrance in their buses. Are Too many people in there. So there are a few but mostly builds on voluntary participation when it comes to the practical advice for the population is the government urging people to maintain social distancing wear masks not wear masks not wear masks. No. Why is that not been one of the things that the government's pushing for because there's no science to prove that they work. And yet, we hear from experts all over the world that there are plenty of reasons and scientific ones to to wear masks. But. That's the way it's been here. Sweden has reported nearly fifty, nine, hundred deaths since the start of the pandemic that's more per capita than both Denmark and Norway. So at this point of the pandemic, what do you think explains the difference I think Sweden had a much bigger seeding. Oh, cases in late, February early March than our neighbor countries said, we started at a much higher number of infected people than they did dougy center you. Played a key role in coming up with swings response to the coronavirus. What you know now that you didn't know six months ago about the best way to contain this virus, it spreads mooring clusters than influenza does ransom moves like a wave but this disease jumps from group of people to New Group of people and that wasn't clear six months ago and it makes, for example, contact race in becomes much for important with a cluster disease like. and. How has it reoriented your approach to containing the coronavirus in Sweden contact tracing is now gary important is done rigorously in all parts of the country falling off context testing them. So that has become more important now than it would have been doing flu season. So if you believe and sounds like you do firmly that the Swedish approaches largely working how come other countries have not adopted especially other. Nordic countries. The problem was much more in their counter does doctor and their politically Rita's will but I won't go into that. That's one thing I would say that it's far too early to compare countries to countries. Now, we're at the beginning of this. This would be going on for a long time and I think we should wait at least a year before we draw any conclusions or what which stranded you worked on, which did not looking back right now in September. Of Twenty twenty is there anything that Sweden should have done differently at the start of the pandemic, we should have been better protecting the old unafraid that was the main stale the strategy, but it didn't really work actually for number reasons and why not we weren't really prepared I would say but wasn't that kind of like one of the first headlines about the corona virus that it's you know people with co Morbidity, and the elderly who will be most affected. Yes but it takes some time to get all the equipment on the training under the don't do that from Monday to the next. So we were late I. Think they're what about? Swedes. What's been kind of the Swedish attitude about this approach to continue the coronavirus has anybody protested oh? Yes. Always I've been correct of people say that this is wrong but this is a democracy people out of their own news but maybe less than countries and we have not tell the US reaction at this against the constitution detraction hasn't been here at all. Johann Jessica is Swedish physician and Professor Karolinska Institute in Stockholm he's also an advisor to the WHO on the pandemic Dr Jessica. Thank you. Thank you very much. You don't need a reminder that the presidential election is just weeks away. The impact of Americans elect reaches far beyond the United States coming up what's at stake for global climate change in the US presidential election you're listening to the world. Support for NPR comes from xfinity with school back in session, xfinity is committed to helping kids continue to learn no matter where they are there providing affordable Internet access to low income families through their Internet, essentials program. 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It's something activists, academics, and diplomats are all thinking about a lot. It's the most important election. I think in increased a history of climate crisis. Certainly, it is very, very important moment around the family breakfast table. It's a constant source of discussion. We have a thing that if the sneakers be Caribbean catches the cold. Definitely, we've been paying very close attention. So has the world's environment correspondent Carolyn dealer who spoke with people for this story about the stakes for the planet in November's election wildfires are burning hurricanes are plaguing the Caribbean and the Arctic is seeing some its lowest ice cover ever ahead of the twenty twenty election, the climate world is focused on the fate of the best diplomatic tool. It has to keep climate change in check the twenty fifteen Paris climate agreement ticket from former Trinidadian climate negotiator. Rana hanes. This election is really going to be very, very critical for whether or not. We're actually able to meet the Paris agreement goals and secure the future of the vulnerable around the world. The Paris agreement was the first universal binding pact to fight climate change in almost every country in the world agreed to keep the increase in the Globes average temperature to well below two degrees Celsius back in two thousand, Seventeen President Donald Trump announced he was pulling the US it as of today. The United States will cease all implementation of the non-binding. Paris accord Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden. Says he'll get the US right back in. If he's elected I'll put us back into the business of leading the world on climate change. Challenge every other country up the ante on climate commitments. Here's why upping the ante matters for keeping global warming and check in the Paris pact governments agreed to set targets for reducing greenhouse gas emissions but those targets they're not legally binding and so far they're not nearly ambitious enough. The whole idea is for countries to name those targets then pressure each other to meet and eventually increase them. Here's how console in a senior researcher at the Center for International Climate Research puts it countries would start doing a little and they would see officer. So doing a little and they would gradually be willing to do more. Also build up trust someone gamed out what the US staying out of the agreement might mean long-term has computer models suggest it with lower other countries, trust and their willingness to reduce their own emissions. Will thing we find this that over time the effects on older countries emissions is actually even larger than the direct effect on us. Emissions were already feeling the impact of the pollutants we've pumped into the air since the industrial revolution worse heatwaves and wildfire seasons more intense hurricanes rising sea levels that makes storm surges more damaging. Rwanda hanes the Trinidadian diplomat who's also an advisor to the Alliance of small. Island states says these impacts pose an existential threat to the world's most vulnerable people the impacts in the Caribbean region specifically already quite extreme. She points as an example to Hurricane Dorian. It was a category five hurricane that intensified repeatedly last year and pounded the Bahamas for Dan a half on that hurricane was actually completely unprecedented and Unpredictable and that's the type of increased activity that we're seeing on. The outlook is of very, very challenging one. The next election of course dictates who controls US environmental policy for just for years but bill hare climate scientist, and CEO of climate analytics says those four years could actually make a real difference. In the next decade, we have two more than how of prison emissions to be on a climate safe pathway. So that can tell you try to why the next decade of action a critical and if we don't achieve significant reductions in the next four or five years, it's going to make the task extremely expensive. If not, technologically prohibitive president trump has spent the last four years rolling back what he calls job carrying regulations. That includes rules that would have limited greenhouse gas emissions from power plants, increased auto emission standards, and required oil and gas companies to limit methane leaks. But on the global stage, the US represents more than just the world's second biggest carbon footprint. The US plays a critical role in the global economy. It's also a key source of technological innovation and diplomatically the US stays out of the global efforts to ramp up action than I. Think a lot of countries will hide behind the US hair points to coal reliant Poland or Bolsonaro pro-development. Brazil, and a so-called gas-powered economic recovery in his native Australia as examples of where action on climate change may Wayne without US pressure. President. Trump's list of second-term priorities does not include anything about climate change just last week in an exchange with California secretary. For Natural. Resources Wade Crow foot president trump again expressed skepticism about established climate science. It'll start getting cooler. Just you just watch I wish science look. I don't think science knows actually Biden on the other hand is framing of vote for him as a vote to reestablish the US as a global leader on climate change. He says push for an end to global fossil fuel subsidies and pressure. China to lower the carbon footprint of its development initiatives. Progressive activists want bite into more aggressive, for example, by banning fracking, but they largely see him as a moderate. They can work with a yellow Wayne Trout is a youth climate organizer in Argentina I think that Abidin election plus a huge mass movement which forces. Him To take action I think that could be significant than really starting to make faster the transition to green energy Wayne trump is part of generation of activists inspired by Swedish Teen Greta. Tune. Berg who see themselves as part of a climate movement that crosses borders. So even though Wayne Trump can't vote in the US he says, he'll be watching on election night climate activist. You need to have your eyes on television that night I'm going to be watching it for sure. Probably, he says with a few beers and some friends for the world I'm caroline dealer. And a note to add here today in his address to the United. Nations President Xi Jinping announced a new climate target. For China, here he is speaking through an interpreter we will rich debating of CO two emission before thirty and reached carbon neutrality. Before Twenty Sixty Carbon Neutrality by twenty sixty for the world's biggest amidror is big news and it sends a signal. China's moving forward with its international commitments. Even as a USA said, it won't we've been hearing how there's a lot at stake for the global environment in the US election. Now, just weeks away but for months the world has been bringing you the voices and important context to help make sense of a country facing a critical choice explore more of our twenty twenty election coverage just head over to the world dot org slash. Twenty. Twenty election you're with the world. 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I'm Marco Werman your with the world where co-production, of Gbh, and rex in one way or another for most kids around the globe school is back in session this month it's a huge adjustment no matter where you are in school attending class online or the hybrid model partly online partly in person it is a lot. Now think about kids who are attending school online, but their school is located half a world away. The world's Rebecca Kantha reports from Shanghai. Every night td become her three daughters. Rush through dinner as the girls get ready to start their classes. That's because they go to school in Shanghai China, but have been stuck in Iowa since February. So evenings instead of winding down relaxing cons playing the day we are up and awake and alert and like you know this is the time we have to be most focus when covid nineteen shut down schools across China td Brunner kids to her home near. Thinking it would be better for them they're. Now seven months later, they're still stuck they're. School started September first and that's spent new schedules for everyone for nine year old Vivian the youngest in the family, the adjustment has been extreme. She Starts School at seven, thirty PM and gets to bed. After One am most nights she says she's gotten used to it but staying up past your bedtime makes her hungry. She says, she eats three dinners night I'll get tired I, probably don't ramp stuff as well in the spring. All of Vivians classmates in Shanghai were doing online schooling to. Now she's the only one. This is the sound of Vivians classroom and The teachers put a phone in the front row so Vivian can watch the lessons. Her mom says, it's a poor substitute for being inside the classroom the teacher. So focused on presider last week that it's hard for them to pay attention to it. Vivian. Has a problem or if she needs something because she's just a little phone on a desk. Vivians fifteen year old sister. Maya. Is a morning person and the struggling with the late night math class but it's now. So I was like you have to stay awake STOIC and I did. I felt like ten minutes after I closed my computer on the table. Bed My is. Doing your best to keep up still the schedule seems to change every day it's like we're going to. You can't see the end you know like. The twisty ones where you can't see past the corner. That's a really good description. Yeah. We're learning metaphors. Maya's classmate Annabel. Yes. started her school year from rural. North Carolina. She and her family were stuck there for more than half a year. They just got back to Shanghai. Last week Annabel says one of the hardest parts of going to school remotely was knowing all of her friends were back together in China. On the very first day of school, she watched her high school's Assembly on a livestream. A really strange feeling I feel like distance learning and mental health. It's like a fragile connection Annabel's younger brother. Mike has just started seventh grade at a new school. He says, those stages were magnified online starting at a new school when it's overseas. So it's Kinda strange. All of the people there knew each other beforehand because they had all been there for like sixth graders. So so when I got there, it was like everyone knew each other and I was like the only person who is new there. are some benefits to being so far from school p. e. classes instead of just like during normal classes I can go hiking. Close thing, you can hike in Shanghai as a skyscrapers he's doing online schooling all over the world are learning an important lesson resilience. Annabelle and MICO will go through a new transition next week as they attend school in person for the first time this year. Meanwhile T T and her kids are still trying to get visas and flights back to China. T T says she keeps telling herself in her kids that this experience will make a great college admissions essay in a few years for the world I'm Rebecca can't they're in Shanghai A rigged election, a governor kidnapped and imprisoned, and a poisoned opposition leader. That's the kind of summer. It's been in Russia and Belarus at of all that an eruption of protests in Russia's Far East they want their governor back. In Belarus outrage over those rig presidential elections in August I mentioned, they show signs of letting up. And the poison politician Alexei navalny one of the leaders of Russia's opposition movement is slowly recovering in a German hospital poisoning enemies, fraudulent elections and protests all-too-familiar too familiar for my next guest. Vladimir. Kara Mercer like Nevada. He's also a prominent Russian opposition leader. He's vice president of the free Russia Foundation and also like no Vanni he too has been poisoned in what's thought to be politically motivated attacks. Vladimir Karamursel thanks for being with US thanks for having me back. Barker's could be back on your program and finally some good news at a long time as shake is now willing his way to recovery. Thank God right. We've seen the images that navalny is slowly recovering from that poisoning and seems to be looking better one day at a time. When you see those images, Ladimir Nevada trying to restart his life what comes to mind how do you react? Well I. must say that I've been living sort of horrendous groundhog day for the last more month now since the news first game that he was poisoned after he collapsed and up playing from Tom's to Moscow at the end of August off had to live through this. Twice and bought from everything else. It is very painful excruciating experience. When you can't breathe you organs fail on after another when you just feel the life slowly coming out of your body and so yes, everything looks very familiar unfortunately but also you know in a good way of course, I went both times I was poisoned doctors told my wife that had about a five percent chance to live I made it and Alexei thankfully has made it and I know is going to be a long and difficult road recovery ahead I mean I I. Had to walk again after the first poisoning you'll body really does give off really quickly once you're in a coma so it's it's not GonNa be quick or easy, but it is possible and he will get back. You will be back to good health. He will be back in Russia and he'll be back to his important work of standing up to the corruption and dictatorship Vladimir Putin. Is there any doubt in your mind that this poisoning was in fact directed by the Kremlin? No of course, not I mean look there's a long growing list of political opposition leaders independent journalists anti corruption campaign is in the like who have suffered this fate in the last two decades. This method actually goes back to Soviet times since Putin came to power twenty years ago this method has really proliferated. were. You surprised to hear that navalny intensive go back to Russia as soon as he can. No you know what I was surprised about is the fact that it actually made news I got quite a few phone calls from journalists the day that this was announced asking for my reaction and I said, frank don't understand what the news this year. Of course he was always going to go back. He's a Russian politician. You can't be a molestation and not be in the country I went back home to Russia as. Soon, as I was literally able to walk after I recovered from the poisoning I also did medical rehabilitation abroad but I went back as soon as I could look would be too much of a gift to the Kremlin enter the Putin regime. If we just gave up and ran, this is what they want us to do. Well, we're not GONNA do it. You know we care about our country care about the future of our country within countries that was better than to live in a twenty-first-century under corrupt and authoritarian system. I'm speaking with Russian opposition leader Vladimir Kara Myrza. Let me ask you about sanctions. Talks of new German and ease sanctions against Russian officials in response to the Nevada poisoning and other political repression you were in Germany Vladimir, recently lobbying for new sanctions. What were you asking Germans to do? So one of the first questions that people in the European Union were asking, what what should the reaction be? What should the response be Mike on Center that and I know the answer for many of my colleagues and friends and the Russian opposition was the same. Mind Boggling to this, there is still no magnitsky act in the European Union, you know there is one in the United States that has been now for the best part of a decade of course, magnitsky. Act is a law that provides full targeted personal sanctions against Florida government officials not just in Russia. But I knew who else who personally complicit in human rights abuses in their own countries and corruption in their own countries of course, the brilliance of this mechanism is that it is directed individuals you're not sanctioning or punishing entire nations for the actions of a few crooks and criminals at it. Is Astonishing that to this day. There is no such mechanism in European Union. Thankfully, that is now changing two weeks ago as you mentioned, I had the honour of joining members of the German Bundestag in Berlin for the announcement of the introduction of a German magnitsky law, all draft law into the German parliament and just a few days ago or Salah Funder Line who's the leader of the European? Union made a similar announcement during her annual State of the Union address. This House has called many times for European magnitsky act and I can announce that we will now come forward with a proposal. We need to complete to. This should be the main practical response to political response I think is that they should be a very clear understanding that wild Vladimir Putin remains in power. They should be normal talk of any kind of resets detente business as usual whatever you WANNA call it with the political regime that speaks with its opponents in the language of poisons and bullets. Let's talk about Belarus Russia's neighbor to the West recently an election took place Atlanta the president of twenty six years back in power. The vote widely seen as fraudulent the protest movement there has been going on for well over a month. Now, have you been surprised by the sustained nature of these protests? Now because I mean even though Belarusians, I suppose to be one of the columnists. One of most polite nations in Europe. Even the most common, the most polite people can get fed up with somebody who's for twenty six years, and so the feelings I have feelings of law and ration- and respect for those amazingly courageous people Belarus, are continuing to come out to protest in the face of unthinkable violence and repression even by the standards. Lukashenka regime, and of course, it rhymes very closely with what's been happening in the Russian Far East and the city of. which you mentioned in the introduction where or even longer actually since the beginning of July they have been and continue to be mass street protests directed against the Kremlin and against the Putin this is by the way only one of the first warning signs and the reason Putin is so frayed of what's happening in Belarus is because for him, this is a glimpse into his own future Putina Lukashenko. The last two dictators in Europe. So what's happening on the streets of Belarus today is very likely to happen in Russia in four years Donald less now three and a half years time, and this is why Putin so incredibly fight. You're respect an offer the Belorussian. Protests, Vladimir. What can Russians learned from the movement there have you learned any lessons as you look to. Belarus. I think what's most important solidarity I think it's important for us as people's civil societies for democratic oppositions in in Russia and Belarus to cooperate with each other and support each other because if we look at the big historical picture and I'm a historian education. So thirty five years ago which by historical standards was yesterday half of Europe was living under dictatorial authoritarian. China trade regimes today. There are only two dictatorships left in those Russia and Belarus, but it might you in the twenty first century even to dictatorships in Europe are to too many. So it's important for us to work together and sort it out cooperation. To make sure that Europe is completely dictate Frey in the foreseeable future and I'm confident we're GONNA achieve. Vladimir Karema's one of Russia's most prominent opposition leaders, vice president of the free Russia Foundation Vladimir thanks for your time today. Thank you so much mark always good to be on your program. At least we have the Internet, can you imagine getting through a pandemic with zero social connections aside from your household or the friends and neighbors on your block for Eastern or does there's a silver lining to starting college in Twenty Twenty? I really do feel a sense of connection. So I don't feel much lonelier than than would or does is also spending a lot more time with his parents in Texas he's learning more about his dad's experience emigrating from Mexico as. A teen and how his parents are feeling during this election year that's been shaping the views of this college freshman for our series. Every thirty seconds we've been hearing from first time voters like or does we name the series every thirty seconds because every thirty seconds a young Latino turns eighteen in the US and becomes eligible to vote reports. Stella. Travis from K. E. R. A. IN DALLAS takes us to the home of east gun or does in Fort Worth Texas. Bins in the US family backyard. Garden with more than two dozen vegetables, herbs, and flowers. Zenia. The Mexican flour. And they're just a flower machine simone or that is scan stead shows them off. Carrots just some potato. LEMONGRASS. Some elephant ears this garden. It's his Labor of love. He says. His wife. So chiel Ortiz points to the trees in the garden a reminder of her visits to Mexico. Both of my grandma's had a lime tree. None of them had the pomegranate tree. But those are two things that just I have that. I guess connection then that memory. For both parents, the garden doesn't let them forget their cultural roots. It's especially important for us who grew up in a town in Mexico where everyone knew how to work the fields. I think it was eight nine. You Know My My classmates. They would finish school and then they went to work on the field helping out and so everyone knew how to use you know a shovel and how to do all this physical work. Naturally August hottest son Stun, how to use a shovel and pickaxe and he says how to sweat. That outdoor work can sometimes be a rude awakening for eighteen year old East gone outside he's got all dirt. Wiser dirt. On. Sidewalk. And he's like Oh yes for us. I mean. It took us hours these trips the. Little disturbed. All joking. Aside, these moments in the garden are also an opportunity for father and son to bond. It's a bomb that's rooted in East Gun Steep Admiration for his dad who faced a number of challenges like not knowing English, when he arrived in the US he was sixteen just a couple of years younger than he, Scott. Undesired right coming to a new country I don't know English. Do. That it was just always so hard for me to national. For Myself East gone as part of a new generation of voters who were born in the US. But whose parents or grandparents came from other countries, their immigration stories and experiences are passed down. ESCON says here in his dad's story is humbling and sometimes shapes his views. It was always something to keep me. In check. To give me back to the books if I'll fight self slipping out per. Going on my phone than out have think back in it was something that would motivate me. Give me a better and I want to get McCain doesn't matter. No look what you did east gone stat was part of a wave of economic migrants who came to the US in the early nineties growing up in Mexico, the elder or the says his biggest dream was to study and become a working professional, but he couldn't afford to pay for college so or does decided to move to the US so my dad coming from humble. Beginnings or whatever he was a very smart person wasn't able to. Find out of opportunities because he did not have an education or thus worked as a busboy in restaurants and bars. In the Chicago area he'd finished his shift at one or two am than wake up at six to catch a bus to go to highschool my shift where you know fourteen sixteen hours a day. and. So. Or does takes a long pause before finishing the Senate's it was hardy says in his first apartment, he lived with more than a dozen other men all single and also for Mexico. Eventually or does made it to college and studied electrical engineering. East got heard these stories growing up sitting across the kitchen table from his dad escon reflects a picture the I remember like seeing when When I was little we had out in the. At the old house and it was like a credit to tell the series but it was like he took me the zoo and your eyes roll rank. and. I didn't. I didn't realize it went on young but in that league older. Realize like you. Like you did. US. Any sconces he'll hold onto those life lessons especially now as he navigates college life during a pandemic with so much uncertainty ahead. For the world I'm Stella Chavez in Fort Worth Texas. Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau recently announced funding to support black entrepreneurs in his country. It's part economic recovery plan and also way of dismantling systemic racism. The Canadian government is teaming up with financial institutions to make it easier for black business owners to get financing and training. But as a needed in Toronto reports, some entrepreneurs are giving the plan mixed reviews. With its reggae music and retro decor, the Supernatural Hair Salon. Spot in Toronto's east end has been a busy community barber shop for more than a decade. But. These days the owner Kurt dewhurst says, it's a miracle. He's still in business. So if I didn't have a plan B, that would it be it for me? dewhurst was forced to shut down in mid March because of the pandemic government restrictions kept store closed for three months. So for Dewhurst Plan B. meant seeing a few of his best customers in secret had to. Break, the law had to make sure that I brought a couple of people to keep my head above water and I'm sure a lot of other people that also you know based on the fact that you know this is what we had to do. Thousands of small businesses have struggled to stay afloat through pandemic shutdowns but in Canada black owned businesses have been especially hard hit. A recent survey found that like dewhurst black entrepreneurs were already in a more precarious financial position than other small business owners. DEWHURST had less than five thousand dollars saved up. He's been in business for seventeen years. But as a sole proprietor, he's never been able to get a bank loan. You Got Numb to the fact, right your play and you don't get it. You know, hey, they don't look at me and this is what we experienced in about community. Also, I'm not the only one. I know a lot of other businesses that go through the same exact thing do her says he can't prove he's a victim of racism and there's no Canadian data that measures whether Canadian banks are less likely to lend to black entrepreneurs. Mohamed El me the director of research at Ryerson University's Diversity Institute says, it's clear black entrepreneurs do face systemic discrimination because of the businesses that they're in and the types of businesses that are in there often more likely to view as more risky L. says nearly half of black business people in Toronto are self employed. They most likely provide professional services or working arts and entertainment. A majority are recent immigrants and might not have strong business networks in Canada or the business training they need to get ahead. Trudeau's plan promises to remedy that with this new fund black businesses will be eligible for loans of up to two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. This is a game changing situation. Now, I have an opportunity to get a loan small business owner Garcia Hanson Francis says, Trudeau's announcement gave her new sense of hope and especially being a young black female business something that will help help me help the company and help the Community Hanson Francis works out of her home and provides remote payroll services to small and medium-sized businesses. She said out on her own five years ago with fifteen years under her belt working for a large company. But she's had trouble expanding the business I. Think I'm not a point where I could excel a lot more to move to the next level Hanson. Francis says she needs to borrow money for things like office space marketing and professional development. She's kept her fulltime job which brings in a healthy salary, but she's still can't get a business loan. I had conversation with bank managers where I'm sorry you know the banks won't allow us to do this. The bank won't allow you to do this. But why are you doing for other You know, for example, why are you doing it for other Caucasian? Male Business Owners Hanson Francis finally gave up asking and maxed her credit cards to cover business expenses. She's hoping that if she qualifies for the New Government Program, she can pay those off and start to grow. Back with the Supernatural Salon and SPA. Kirk dewhurst is less optimistic. He also liked to expand his business and he'd need to borrow money to do that. But he's heard a lot of broken promises from the government. He's not convinced this time. We'll be any different if sounds great. When is it going to be implemented? Right? Is it gonna be pushed back like everything else push back? When do we apply? WHO APPLIES Credit status have to do any application does size of business have to do with any application does this bankruptcies have to do it any applicant we need to know the fuck so far those details haven't been released the government says it's still working on them for the world I'm Anita. TORONTO. You can find pretty much anything in New York City. Even during a pandemic, you just have to know where to look. The world's Janka Hillier has. Puerto Rican Megastar bad bunny supplies New Yorkers with a live show. He stood on top of a flatbed truck while rolling through city streets. The truck was decorated to look like a subway car and the Latin Grammy winning artist was literally dodging traffic lights and trees mid song but dressed in a black floor-length trench coat and his trademark tiny glasses bad bunny flawlessly performed for almost two hours. The tour started in the Bronx add Yankee Stadium before heading south into Manhattan onlookers couldn't believe their eyes. She's like I love New York. A free concert is one thing but here was a global pop star right outside people's doorsteps. The mobile stage was quickly surrounded by fans quite a Beatles moment with people running and biking alongside the tribe. It all took fifteen year. Old Christian boost does by surprise he was having dinner at a restaurant when you just showed up and we were like Oh my goodness this is bad bunny. Everybody in the restaurant was running over and yell seats down. That was one of the coolest moment mine tire life. It's a performance that twenty-three-year-old remote. Baeau. Wasn't GonNa Miss. It was essentially like mosh pit cars they oh, followed the parade to woods finale right in front of the Harlem Hospital because the concert wasn't meant to solely entertain bad bunny gave meals and a message of gratitude to frontline workers. He. Also commemorated the third anniversary of Hurricane Maria which devastated his native Puerto Rico. The singer told the crowd I know we're going through very difficult times but I have hoped that people are doing things but their heart spirit faith and hope we are going to move forward. For the world I'm being. I love about parade world comes from the Non and Bill Harris Studio at Gbh in Boston you can find us online anytime at the World Dot Org I'm Marco Werman, we'll see back here tomorrow. Or? Ex.
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"Hi I'm Amy Goodman critical election year. You Count on democracy now to stay focused on the stories that matter most and we count on you to support our independent journalism if everyone who tunes into democracy now signed up for a monthly donation of say just six dollars, we could cover our operating costs for the entire year. Really that's all it would take. Please do your part today by visiting us at democracy. Now, dot org stay safe where a mask save lives and thank you so much. From New York, this is democracy now. In the day now we're forced to live in the state where, United States citizen we'll have to choose between putting food on their kids played voting. Federal Appeals. Court has blocked hundreds of thousands of Floridians with fees and fines from pass felony convictions from registering to vote and a move that could determine this year's presidential race. We'll look the attack on voting rights across the country from Wisconsin to Florida then his fires continued to devastate the West. Coast trump rejects climate science blames the fire solely on forest management. Please remember the words of forest. Management please mobile. We'll speak to an indigenous fire expert in California who studied how a return to indigenous ways of caring for the land could foster greater climate resiliency and Amazon CEO Jeff bezos becomes the first person in the world to be worth two, hundred billion dollars will look at how Amazon increased profits by price gouging during the pandemic marking up products by as much as one thousand percent. All, that and more coming up. Welcome to democracy. Now, democracy now dot org the quarantine report I'm Amy Goodman nearly ninety wildfires continue to ravage the west coast where over five million acres have already been scorched San Francisco. Seattle and Portland have the worst air quality of any major city in the world hazy conditions from the fires have spread just for his new. York. And Washington DC president trump was in California Monday where he was challenged by California's natural resources secretary. Wade Crow for over his denial of climate change. If we ignore that science and sort of put her head in the sand and think it's all about vegetation management, we're not going to succeed together protecting California's. It'll start getting cooler. You just watch I wish science degree. Science knows actually well I don't think science knows actually trump said and Delaware Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden Slam trump as climate arsonist. If. You give climate arsonist four more years in the White House. Why would anyone be surprised if we have more America plays in related news, Oregon prisoners report being pepper sprayed by guards after they were evacuated due to the wildfires making it even more difficult to breathe amidst the smoke and the air pollution will have more on the record shattering wildfires later in the broadcast. The. Total number of Global Cova Nineteen Infections has top twenty, nine, million with nearly nine hundred, thirty, thousand dead. The CEO of the world's largest Max Vaccine Manufacturer Serum Institute of India has told the Financial Times it might take up to five years to vaccinate everyone in the world wants a cove nineteen vaccine is approved if it's a two dose vaccine and other cove in one thousand nine news infection levels are spiking in the mid West as North Dakota south, Dakota, Missouri and Iowa report record levels of infections in New York City at least fifty, five, public school staff have recently tested positive for covert one, thousand nine hundred one New York. City Public School in the Bronx was forced to close temporarily before students even entered the building from the new school year after to corona virus cases were confirmed there. Meanwhile, the American Academy of Pediatrics Children's hospital associated is estimating nearly five, hundred, fifty, thousand children in the United States have tested positive for the virus since the beginning of the pandemic this comes as the US death toll approaches one, hundred, ninety, five, thousand, the highest in the world by far on Monday CNN air new audio from journalist Bob Woodward from an interview he did with President Trump on April thirteenth at the time trump was publicly urging the US economy be reopened but privately. Trump compared cove nineteen to the plague. Killer. Get you. You're the wrong person. You don't have a chance Yes. Yes. Exactly does. This is a score Jr.. And play. Four days after President Trump said those words to Bob Woodward. In April he sent out tweets calling on supporters to quote liberate the States of Michigan Minnesota and Virginia sparking a series of protests against covid nineteen lockdowns. Meanwhile, the city of Henderson Nevada has issued at three thousand dollar fine to the venue hosted a large indoor trump rally over the weekend for violating Nevada covid nineteen guidelines thousands attended the event most did not wear masks. A local reporter asked trump if he was concerned about getting infected. Getting. In I'm not, concerned. About. because. You know why? Stage far away. and. He said, he wasn't concerned because he was able to socially distance the thousands of people inside the Henderson facility were closely. Approximating closely next to each other and not wearing masks a federal appeals court ruled Monday. The trump administration can end immigration protections for some four hundred thousand people under the Temporary Protected Status Program nationals with TPS from El. Salvador. Haiti Nicaragua and Sudan could be subject to deportation starting next year some as early as January many TPS recipients have been living in the US for decades and have children who are US citizens plaintiffs say they'll appeal the ruling National TPS. Alliance is launching a Cross Country Journey for Justice Caravan Next Week A. Nurse at Georgia, Immigration and Customs Enforcement Prison says the Irwin County detention center is performing hysterectomies on prisoners without their consent project south sent the explosive whistle blower. To the Department of Homeland Security in the office of the Inspector General One jailed migrant recounted when I met all these women who had had surgeries I thought this was like an experimental concentration camp. It was like they're experimenting with our Bodies Unquote Nurse Don, wooten, the whistle blower also described neglect and under testing for covid nineteen at the jail, which is run by the for profit LaSalle corrections. Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank are holding day of rage to protest the United, Arab Emirates, and Bahrain's move to become the first Arab countries to normalize relations with Israel in. Twenty five years President Trump Israeli prime, Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and officials from the UAE and Bahrain are meeting today at the White House to sign the agreements over the weekend. The Palestinian factions of Hamas and Fatah agreed on forming a quote unified field leadership to lead a joint resistance against the Israeli occupation. A boat carrying refugees capsized off the coast of Libya in the Mediterranean leaving at least twenty, four people dead or missing at least forty five people survived the UN called out the restrictions imposed. NGOs, by European nations including unnecessary and long standoffs at sea over four hundred refugee deaths have been recorded so far this year in the Mediterranean Sea. In Greece thousands, refugees remain without shelter one week after the burning down of the massive overcrowded Mariah encampment some thirteen thousand people were left homeless many still do not have access to running water or food and are unable to leave the isle of Lesbos. Many are also refusing to go to a new camp set up by Greek authorities saying they do not trust the new facility refugees have been holding protests over their conditions and pleading for help from other European nations over the weekend police fired tear gas at the demonstrators. A Human Rights Watch report found that Belorussian, security forces or betray early detained thousands of people and tortured or mistreated hundreds in the crackdown following last month's presidential election despite the reports of violence and other hundred thousand people took to the streets of the capital Minsk against Sunday to demand the resignation of President Alexander Lukashenko police again, attacked and arrested hundreds of protesters on Monday Russian President Vladimir. Putin said, he would loan one point, five billion dollars to Lukashenko to help stave off an economic crisis as he attempts to retain his grip on power in Germany Russian opposition leader Alexei. Navalny has posted on instagram a picture of himself from his hospital bed after coming out of an induced coma navan vocal critic of Russian president. Vladimir. Putin was poisoned last month while on a flight in Siberia. In Japan Shahidi suge is expected to become Japan's new prime minister after winning the ruling, Liberal Democratic Party's leadership contest the landslide Monday soup expected to take up his predecessor Shinzo Abe's push to revise parts of Japan's pacifist Constitution suge supported laws allowing the military to join combat operations with Japanese allies. He's also seen as one of the most pro immigration politicians in Japan a large chunk of ice twice the size of the island of Manhattan has broken off the Arctic largest raining ice shelf in Greenland last month scientists said Greenland's ice sheet has shrunk past the point of return in related news government scientists said this summer broke the record for hottest ever in the Northern Hemisphere. In Brazil thousands of fires in the world's largest wetland have scorched more than five point, eight, million acres of some of the planet's most biodiverse land, the fires, and the Brazilian Pantano are often set to clear land for logging and farming but have been exacerbated by severe climate change fueled drought conservationists say historic fires. This year have caused a devastating loss of wildfire including endangered species, animals, including Jaguars rare birds, and reptiles have been charred or starved to death. Hurricane Sally is approaching the Gulf coast threatening potentially lethal flooding storm surges for just the second time ever recorded and the first time in nearly half a century five tropical cyclones formed simultaneously in the Atlantic. Ocean. University, of Delaware, Professor Unknown Climate Change Denier has been tapped for top position. Noah. That's the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration David. LA- Gates has written papers calling for more fossil fuel emissions, and has had his work supported by the Robert Mercer funded Hartland Institute and Coke Industries as well as major gas and oil companies in a facebook livestream health and Human Services spokesperson Michael Caputo claimed without evidence that armed left wing militants are preparing for insurrection after the election and that gun owners should stock. Up On amunition he said Joe Biden would refuse to concede the election and that quote when Donald Trump refuses to stand down at the inauguration, the shooting will begin Caputo also spewed conspiracy theories related to the coronavirus pandemic accusing government scientists of sedition against trump and members of the CDC of forming an anti-trump resistance unit within the CDC to undermine trump separately Michael Caputo went on a twitter rampage what she called for teargassing reporters among other things his account appeared to have been disabled on. Monday. Meanwhile, House Democrats say they're investigating a recent report that political appointees at HHS including Michael Caputo have reviewed and altered weekly Corona virus reports from the Centers for Disease Control in order to support trump's. Messaging about the pandemic. Has the trump administration from enforcing new asylum restrictions after ruled Chad Wolf is likely serving unlawfully as acting secretary of the Department of Homeland Security? The House Homeland Security Committee subpoenaed Wolf to testify this week over whistle blower allegations that he told HHS officials to our intelligence and eight people were arrested in Lancaster Pennsylvania on. Monday as protesters took to the streets following the fatal police shooting of twenty-seven-year-old Ricarda. Menus police also used tear gas and rubber bullets on crowds. Body camera footage shows a police officer shooting Muna's who's holding a knife after responding to a domestic disturbance complaint. Muna's family said he suffered from schizophrenia and paranoia. And those are some of the headlines. This is democracy. Now, democracy now dot org the quarantine report. I'm amy. Goodman. In New York joined by my co host one than solace at his home, in new, Brunswick New Jersey High, Juan. By, a me and welcome to all of our listeners and viewers across the country and around the world. Well Monday marked fifty days until the November election and we begin today's show looking at the attack on voting rights across the United States in a pivotal decision that could give Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden a big boost in Wisconsin the state supreme. Court rejected an appeal by the Green Party's candidate Howie. Hawkins to invalidate thousands of already mailed ballots so that they could be reprinted with his name on them in a four three decision Monday, a conservative justice split with the wing majority and Wisconsin's voting process to proceed as planned. The ruling comes just days before the start of mail and voting in the State Hawkins, called it a quote travesty of justice. Meanwhile in Iowa, a judge sided with Republican incumbent Donald Trump's presidential campaign and voided more than ninety thousand absentee ballot requests in the states most democratic leaning county. Johnson County is now the third Iowa county to have its ballot requests forms voided because county election officials mailed the forms to voters with personal information filled into simplify the process affected voters will either have to fill out a new blank form to request an absentee ballot or vote at the polls on election day in the midst of the pandemic. In Colorado a federal judge just upheld temporary restraining order that stops the US Postal Service from sending out mailers that the state's attorney general says have incorrect election information on the list of major developments goes on from Pennsylvania where election officials are not able to send out ballots due to a slew of lawsuits another issues to. Florida. Where cord on Friday blocked hundreds of thousands of people with fees and fines from pass felony convictions from writer string to vote for more on all of this as well as concerns about sabotage census, we're joined by Ari, Berman Senior writer mother, Jones reporting fallow the tight media center author of give us the ballot the modern struggle for voting rights in America his latest piece is titled. Conservative. Judicial decisions keep boosting GOP voter suppression. Welcome back to democracy now. All right. Let's start in Florida. Can you talk about what has happened there? Good Morning Amy and good morning one. It was a really pivotal decision in Florida because in two thousand, eighteen, sixty, four percent of Floridians approved a law restoring voting rights to people past felony convictions before that Florida prevented one in ten people including one in five African Americans from voting. Then the GOP legislature said that people pass felony convictions have to pay off all fines, fees and restitution to be able to vote which the Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals which now has a trump majority because trump appointed five justices to that court. Upheld that law what it means in practice is that according to studies seven, hundred, seventy, five, thousand people in Florida still owe money on their sentences and might not be able to vote and remember amy this, the state decided by five hundred, thirty, seven votes in two thousand. So we're talking about hundreds of thousands of people. Baby, not being able to vote in Florida, who should have had their rights restored in a state that's been decided by only a few hundred votes in the past. I want to go to Desmond. Mead. Who is the one who? Really. Was the author of amendment for that was overwhelmingly passed. We spoke with him yesterday. He's president of the Florida Rights Restoration Coalition and chair of the Floridians for fair democracy about his response to the ruling. We're definitely viewing the recent decision by the eleven circuit as a blow to democracy. I think democracy is the biggest lose air you know at the end of the day now, where are forced to live in a state where United States citizen will have to choose between putting food on their kids play or voting you'll choose between paying rent or their mortgage in voting, and this is not what democracy is all about until Florida rights restoration coalition a we as organization remained committed in spite of this research rolling to continue our efforts to engage as many returning citizens as possible throughout fines and fees. Funds where we've had patriots defenders of democracy across the country a- donating money. So we're able to help people pay off their legal financial obligations and get them registered to vote. So they could be able to participate in what we feel to be the most important presidential election. This country has ever seen tha that's desmond mead the force behind limit for that was overwhelmingly passed in Florida that gave over a million people who serve time in prison for felonies. The right to vote can you talk about the significance of him saying millions of dollars are available? How do people find out about that? Sorry. That's right. The Florida rights restoration coalition led by Desert Mead has a fund that's raised three million dollars to pay off people's fines and fees. So people can go to their website and donate to that the big problem in Florida right now, amy is this law passed by the legislature is kind of like a poll tax meets a literacy tests and all explain why it's like a poll tax because you have to pay to be able to vote. Now you have to be able to pay off all the fines fees and restitution new to be able to vote, which could be tens of thousands of dollars, hundreds of thousands. Even millions of dollars, it's like a literacy test because Florida can actually tell you how much money you know. There is no centralized database in Florida for someone with a past felony conviction to go to the see whether they still owe money. So this is really incomprehensible to people Florida set up a law that it actually can't enforce, and that's why it's going to lead to mass voter confusion potentially massive voter disenfranchisement and it's just incredible to meet at a court would uphold something like this just a few months before the election that so brazenly overturns the will of the voters who approve this historic ballot initiative twenty eighteen. An hour has there been any. Is there any data about how many people have had their right to vote restored of off former? Convicted felons. Yes, there has been one eighty, five thousand people have had their rights restored so far and they are still eligible to vote. So that is one good thing about the decision that it still allows those eighty five thousand people have had their rights restored to be able to vote but we're talking about one point four million people were set to have their rights restored. So you're talking about any five thousand people have had their rights restored, but there's still hundreds of thousands of people that have not had their rights restored and the question is will be eligible to vote. Will they decide to vote or even if they don't owe money, will they be dissuaded from voting? Because of what the legislature did and what the courts are palace, which is really unfortunate situation because I think that Florida voters made it very clear. They wanted people to be able to vote if they paid their debt to society legislature added this crazy new wrinkle saying you have to pay off all your speech and restitution, and the only reason it was upheld was because Donald Trump flipped the eleventh circuit with five trump judges and this is why Mitch McConnell the Republican Senate is so intent on confirming judges and doing nothing else this week McConnell is going to confirm a more judges to the federal bench, but they're not doing anything else to help the American people. And our can switch Wisconsin and the situation there with the court decision on the Green Party, could you explain why it went down to the wire for even the court to consider this case given that the election is only fifty days away? It went down to the wire and Wisconsin because the Green party filed late to try to get on the ballot. So there was a dispute I with Wisconsin Elections Commission of whether they should be on the ballot and then the question was should they delay sending hundreds of thousands of ballots but the Green Party on the ballot and the Wisconsin? Supreme Court basically said we're not deciding this on the merits of whether they should be on the ballot. It's just too late to add them to the ballot tens of thousands of ballots have already. Gone out hundreds of thousands of more are going out this week. There's been over a million absentee ballot requests in Wisconsin, and this week is the day that they start sending them out and mass. So I think this decision adding the Green Party to the ballot would have led to major voter confusion in Wisconsin, and that a lot of people who got a ballot would have had and get another one and there was a risk that they would be very confused that some people might vote twice or some people might not vote at all so. Irrespective of the merits of other, the Green Party should be on the ballot election officials in Wisconsin are breathing a sigh of relief. They don't have to print new balance it can send the ballots already been requested out. And what about the situation in Iowa with? Their what was the personal information that the court felt? That That officials felt should not have been on a ballot and you talk about that and why specifically in democratic counties. What happened was in Iowa the Democrat Democratic counties in particular decided to on their own send. APP STIEG battle requests voters. So in places like Cedar Rapids Iowa City the Democratic decided to send these ballots to make it easier. They filled in personal information because Iowa passed a new voter ID law, and one of the provisions of that law is you have to have hin for your driver's license on your absentee. Ballot, and a lot of people don't know what that number is. So the auditors tried to make this process easier for voters by filling in the information including their driver's license number, which nobody knows what that is, and instead of saying, Hey, thank you for making it easier for people to vote in response to a loss by the trump campaign. The courts have now invalidated absentee ballot requests in the most democratic counties. In the state. So this is very confusing for voters because imagine that you requested absentee ballot and now you think you're getting one in the mail, and now you're going to have to do that all process over again fifty days or mass before the election, and so it just adds more uncertainty into the process and people are already confused about how to vote in this election and these court making harder to vote. Or Not Helping, Ari talk also about Pennsylvania seems like across the country at the Republican Party sues simply delays absentee ballots from going out even if they're going to ultimately lose. So talk about what's happening in Pennsylvania. Then in Colorado if you could explain what's happening there a federal judge ordering the US Postal Service to immediately stop sending mailers that contain false information and then talk about McConnell and the US Postal Service. So I often Pennsylvania there's a ton of litigation right now the trump campaign is litigating for example, to try to prevent voters from dropping off their ballots at drop boxes to avoid a postal delays, there's disputes over whether you should be able to start counting mail ballots before the election a right now, you can't which means it could take longer for the votes to count, and actually Republicans are refusing to allow votes to be counted earlier because they want uncertainty in terms of the process is a lot of litigation in Pennsylvania balance out there either, and this is a really pivotal swing state in Colorado. What happened was the post office sent mailers to all fifty states basically telling people. If you request an absentee ballot requested early, the problem in Colorado is that you don't have to request an absentee ballot. They actually automatically send ballots, all registered voters. They also can turn around ballots quicker because it's a vote by mail state. So what election officials were angry about in Colorado and other thing and other states is at the post office set this one size fits. All mailer to all voters as opposed to making it state specific because the voting laws in Colorado are very different. The voting laws in New York and election officials told the Post Office this is going to confuse this is going to end up being a former voter suppression. The Post Office didn't listen. Now there's an injunction against them in terms of what Mitch McConnell's doing the. Only, thing he is doing in Washington right now is confirming more federal judges for Donald Trump. He's confirmed over two hundred federal judges for Donald Trump. He's been walking twenty five billion dollars for the post. Office for over a hundred and twenty days, he has been blocking legislation to restore the voting rights act for over two hundred eighty days he has been walking legislation to prevent. Foreign Election of interference for over three hundred, twenty days, he's not doing anything to the American people. The only thing Mitch McConnell is doing right now is confirming more extreme right-wing judges for Donald. Trump. Because that's the way Republicans rigged the electoral system. If they get the judges they walked, they can uphold things like bottom day poll tax in Florida. So this is the Republican Party's game. Don't do anything for the American. People make it as hard as you can to vote and then put in place judges within uphold those new voter suppression laws. Ari I wanted to ask you about the bigger picture of the. National move because especially because of the pandemic toward the mail in voting. Those of us who've covered elections in this country for decades know that the old system had many many problems in terms of being able to deliver. A clear count on election day but clearly the move to mail in balloting especially given that every jurisdiction every state. Sometimes every county have their own methods will mean it inevitably that we're going to have many many more problems in terms of being able to actually count votes not to mention the fact that there will be a lot of people whose ballots will be discounted because they didn't properly fill out the mail in ballots I'm wondering if you could step back and give us a big picture of what to expect come election day. Well, it makes sense pandemic. A lot of people would want to vote by mail, but people have to be careful about male voting. There were over five hundred, thousand mail ballots rejected in the primaries, which was a major increase from twenty sixteen because ballots arrived too late or people didn't sign them correctly they didn't sign them at all and so there's a lot of concern with male voting that while it is a safe way to vote in a pandemic if you're not careful, these ballots can be rejected at a higher rate than in. person, voting. So I think if you vote by mail, you have to do it early you have to send it back early or drop off possible. You have to sign it and sign it carefully I think if people are proactive about voting there won't be problems but if everyone decides to vote by mail the last minute and election officials are overwhelmed if the post office which has been sabotaged by Donald Trump is overwhelmed, there could be real problems with mail voting and a real chance of major odor disenfranchised what Republican legislators are also doing. In. States like Wisconsin and Minnesota and Pennsylvania is they are not allowing the officials to start counting the ballots before Election Day which means that it's going to take longer to count the ballots and Donald Trump is going to say, Oh, only the election day votes should count. Let's disqualify all of the mail ballots but if you want to avoid that kind of situation but the Republican legislators need to. Do in Michigan and Wisconsin and Pennsylvania is say that people should start counting the votes earlier than it won't take weeks to certify the winner will know who won the election maybe not an election night but in relatively quick period of time so Republicans are trying to capitalize on the uncertainty and fear around the mail voting the try to boost their efforts to make it harder to though I wanted. Switch the issue to the Census and we only have a minute to go but a federal court in New York block the trump administration from excluding undocumented immigrants from the twenty twenty census ruling. Undocumented people quote qualify as persons in the state must be counted. Advocates called the ruling a victory for voting and immigrant rights. This comes as federal judge in California's temporarily halted the trump administration from ending its. Census collection efforts a month early pending a court hearing. Later, this month, the Census Bureau is being challenged by coalition of rights groups, local governments on native American communities. After announced, it would end its collection efforts at the end of September instead of the end, of October, which could lead to a vast undercount of immigrants and communities of color if you could talk about the significance of this Ari Berman. The trump administration has been trying to sabotage the census from day one luckily, federal courts and the Supreme Court have pushed back on this. The problem is that there's a lot of fear among people directly immigrant communities that they shouldn't respond to the census, and if you look at the numbers, the response rate in two thousand twenty is lower than the response rate in two, thousand, ten and two thousand, and very low in some immigrant communities, very low on tribal reservations where fewer than twenty percent of people have responded. So time is running out the count is either going to end at the end of this month or the end of next month and the implications are. Huge we're talking about one point, five, trillion dollars in federal funding. For the next decade, we're talking about how state and federal voting districts are talking about how much electoral votes and representation states receive. So we only get a chance to do this once every decade and it would be a real shame if we had a deliberate undercount of certain communities, perfectly immigrant communities and communities of color tried to benefit the trump administration's ames as opposed to benefiting all society, which is what the sense is supposed to do. It's supposed to count everyone serve everyone not just a shrinking white minority represented Donald Trump Ari reversing when a thank you for being, with us, senior writer Mother Jones. Author of give us the ballot. The modern struggle for voting rights in America will link to your latest piece conservative judicial decisions keep boosting gop voter suppression. Then as fires continue to devastate the west coast trump rejects climate science will go to California to speak with an indigenous fire expert about how return to indigenous ways of caring for the land could foster greater climate resiliency stay with us. No. My. Grand Mamma. Dying Daijo Cuba here on democracy now, the quarantine report I mean the Goodman with Gonzales return to the west coast where wildfires fueled by the climate crisis burn worth and five million acres darkened the skies from Canada to Mexico with smoke and ash as nearly ninety wildfires burned Portland mark the worst air quality of any major city in the world Monday with. San Francisco. SEATTLE. Los Angeles. Not far behind hazy conditions from the fires of spread as far as new. York and Washington DC. The fires have killed at least thirty five people forced mass evacuations. Dozens are missing laid bare the reality of changing climate. But on Monday president trump continues to deny the climate crisis and exchange with California's Natural Resources Secretary Wade Crow Foot. We ignore that science and sort of put our head in the sand and think it's all about vegetation management. We're not going to succeed together protecting Californians. Okay. It'll start getting cooler. You just watch I. Wish Science. Agree. I. Don't think signs knows actually I don't think science knows actually trump said well, California governor Gal Gavin Newsom also address president trump who's repeatedly blamed the fires in. California on forest management. There's no question when you look past. This decade looking past almost two thousand plus years that we have not done justice on our forest management I don't think anyone disputes that and final point I'd be negligent and this is not we known each other too long. And as you suggest the working relationship I value, we obviously feel very strongly that the hawks are getting hotter drives are getting drier when we're having heat Dome Alexa, which we'd never seen in our history hottest August ever history of the state, the ferocity, these fires drought five plus years losing one, hundred, sixty, three, million trees to that drought. Something's happened to the plumbing of the world and we come from a perspective unbelie. Where we submit The science is. In and observed evidence is self evident. That, climate change is real and that is exacerbating this governor Newson said fifty seven percent of California's forests aren't federal land compared to just three percent that is owned by. California. The rest privately owned well today we look at California's history of forest management and how a century of fire suppression has made the current climate fires even more destructive fires natural part of life in California for thousands of years native American tribes would regularly burn the landscape to steward. The land but colonization led to the suppression of these tactics and decades of misguided policy for more on this history and how return to indigenous stewardship of the land could foster greater climate resiliency. We go to Chico California where we're joined by Don Hankins a pyro geographer and planes me walk fire expert. He's a professor of geography and Planning California State. University Chico Welcome to democracy. Now it's great to have you with US professor Hankins on. Can you talk about? What's happening in California now trump saying it's just two words. It's forest management and then Gavin newsom saying, yeah. We also have to weigh climate change in this but forest management is a major issue Professor Hanke. Warning aiming one. Yeah I think the situation California. President we have over three million acres ablaze over a very short period of time and I think that the political jargon that's being pushed around right now is really an unfortunate situation given the the situation state, the This does aspects of both what the president and the governor are seeing. are definitely correct. It's not just a one east solution of forest management is definitely a part of the problem although climate change is something that's happening we have to recognize. So when we think about what's going on in our region Wrigley throughout the state of California in the West. Coast at this point we. A long drought, the governor mentioned five years I would say that it's going on twenty years of drought. You've had some punctuated time periods with some rain that has come in like twenty seventeen in two, thousand eighteen. But the rain that we have is not enough to saturate the ground in allow for groundwater recharge that is important for our our landscape to thrive in D. Healthy, and then we add that the accumulation of fuels within that landscape and so forth in the inability to put fire, the scale that it really needs to be that is such a huge part of this problem. and Professor has, could you talk about the If if you about the difference between Federal Policies on the federally owned lands and State policies because after all as governor newsom mentioned most of the forest land is federal land. In fact, almost half of all of California is federally owned land and fifty three percent of Oregon is federally owned land How was the federal government dealing with its own policies of? Of managing these forests. Right, but it's a really interesting question. So when we think about that ownership when when we talk about life state ownership of land that state ownership is not really owned by the state, but a lot of privately owned land. So you know as a lot of rural communities, we have a lot of different landowners who were there on those lands and within the states fire responsibility what we call the responsibility error SRA. cal fire under the Department of Forestry Empire Protection is is that an entity that has the ability to steward over it on the federal lands? Obviously for Service National Park, Service Bureau and management, etc. All all are part of that piece and there's different policies in terms of the way that fire is allowed to be used in those places. So we think about the federal fire policy aspect of the national coordinating group and other entities within the federal government allow for the integration of policies, and so some of those policies include burn policies in allowed or wildland fire us with as within the state where fires happen cal fire is. Is mandated with those fires out. So those are some of the differences that are that are there between those areas but I think the bottom line is really coming down to the amount of acreage that we're allowed to see burn on an annual basis. But then also how much money is being put into those efforts and I would say it's pretty miniscule for instance when we think about what the targets were for the four service within this particular timeframe of this year, I, want to say about a half million acres of five hundred, thousand acres of land obviously with these fires we have three hundred or three million acres of currently burning or more. but nowhere, we getting close to the scale of of being able to put the type of fires in historically have occurred within this landscape back in this landscape to mitigate the effects of climate change and make the landscape more resilient. And could you talk about the history of fire suppression as of a tool of colonisation there was a piece in the Guardian were journalists Susan Cable wrote quote the Spanish where the first California columnists to prevent indigenous people from burning the land. In eighteen fifty, the US government passed the act for. For the government and protection of Indians which outlawed intentional burning and California in before it was a state. Right those are huge policies when we think about the early Spanish colonization California beginning in seventeen sixty nine, we have missions that are established along the California coast and those missions had very specific policies. It were were put down by the Spanish governor of California that that forbade people from setting fires. The Spaniards were not accustomed to the idea of of indigenous people burning they saw it as a risk. To their infrastructure and their way of life, and so that then put really harsh penalties, upwards of death to Indian people who were setting fires, and that is a way of life. That is the way that people have lived in for Millennia and that tool began to be removed from the toolbox of of native people, and then we add to the American colonization as you point out eighteen fifty. The state hadn't even really be. A A state yet we had policies within the state also forbid the use of fire initials populations in the same kinds of penalties were I'd so reluctantly, you know people would would not obviously be able to set fires if if their life on the line for it, and so we see a a real decline in the use of fire and the inability for people to access lamb to tend to those which had gone on for many thousands of years of through past climate. Change. Events. So what has to happen right now professor Hankins. Talk about your own family from the Delta area from the San Francisco Bay area. How you've seen the land change with regard to stewardship and what you want to see happen. Right. Well, I think will usually happen at this point is the ability for indigenous practitioners working with others. You know it's it's not just indigenous people that are able to do this. We have forty million people living in the state. There's only one one and a half or so percent of the state's population is is indigenous or native American I should say based on identification. We have a lot of people from out of state to, but I, think it's important that if we all work together and we used the same mindset in terms of process in being able to use fire within the landscape we can start to. Fire back in at the scale that needs to be for the right ecological and cultural services within the landscape to create the same outcomes and and I think the process is a really big part of that. So when you know we gas equation of Alcan, we restore the landscape back to what it was is a in seventeen, sixty, nine or eighteen fifty. That's not what I'm asking or that's not what I think needs to happen what I say is it we? Climate Change does happen and ecosystems that are here at present ever relationship with fire, and so we put that same type of fire evolve in back into them and were stewarding them in the exact same way than we're able to ensure that climate resiliency in those landscapes. But also ensure biodiversity the carbon capture an all the other attributes of what may be ecosystem services as part of that to make those those beneficial. So in terms of of the Delta Region San Francisco Bay area for instance, we have a lot of landscape change that has happened. We've got a lot of areas under that time period. Of Eighteen fifty to the present that was turned under the plow. So wetlands prairie and forest emergent marshes, grasslands, vernal pools, chaparral ecosystems, they all are part of those landscapes, but a lot of places have been very heavily impacted. So one thing that I particularly focus on in my research is how we can use fires a conservation tool, which is part of that indigenous set of ways of earning, and when we think about like a California's value woodland's where there's only like two percent remaining throughout the entire state that's an endangered ecosystem and with small pockets of one hundred acres here or a two hundred acres air. If fire gets into those places we lose the diversity of those forests we lose those forest and we lose the carbon is captured in them. So those are the places that I can to focus on in a lot of my work but that were also then extends from those wetland areas all the way to the top of the Sierras in the in the mountains that eat into the system. So it's an interconnected interrelated a relationship with our we WANNA. Thank you so much for joining us in. Personally I mean, how are you dealing with the massive? Well right now, the pollution in the air you have Los Angeles San Francisco, Portland, seattle the worst air in a major city in the world, and especially the native American tribes what are people doing on the ground? Yeah. Well, it's a lot of people having to stay indoors at this point I will say that on my drive down to Chico this morning, I was happy to look up and see the the stars. So constellations are out there and but I will also point out that within our native ways of thinking about it there's benefits to smoke. We have to be aware of as well on that in boost fumigation includes fooling of our streams for salmon and other things like that. So while you're dealing with a very toxic load, a smoke right now, this is not what are indigenous fires would have created. The this put been spread throughout the year. So I think as a society, we need to get used to a little bit of smoke but not the level smoke you're experiencing right now and hopefully never get to this toxic level again, Professor Hans thank you for being with us. We want to say we also asked to scientists with the US forest, service to join us on the program, but they were told by. The forest service they could not. They were told this by the Washington Office Don Hankins pyro geographer planes me walk fire expert, Professor Geography and Planning California State University Chico where he speaking to us from when we come back, Amazon CEO Jeff, bezos becomes the first person the world to be worth two, hundred, billion dollars. We look at how Amazon has gouged people during the pandemic up to one thousand percent stay with us. Yes. Sir. John. and. Love and kisses by Sam Phillips this is democracy. Now, the quarantine report I mean he goodman with Juan Gonzalez as the covid nineteen pandemic keeps many of sheltering at home and shopping online. The online giant Amazon said Monday, it'll hire one hundred thousand more workers to meet growing demand. Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos says made an extraordinary amount of money during the crisis. He saw his personal wealth increased by forty eight billion dollars between just march and June alone. He's now the first person in the world to be worth two, hundred, billion dollars basis. Made so much in fact that them estimates, he could give all eight, hundred, seventy, six, thousand, Amazon employees a one time one, hundred, five, thousand dollar bonus, and still come away with as much money as he had beat for the pandemic. This comes as a new report documents how Amazon set prices for essential products during the crisis levels that would violate price gouging laws in many states public citizen found Amazon marked up some products by as much as one thousand percent, for example, disposable face mask soul for forty dollars instead of four dollars. Price is shot happened midst shortages for pandemic related supplies in February and March and are still hi, this is New York governor Andrew Cuomo announcing early March that the state had started using prisoner Labor to make hand sanitizer. Because you can't get it on the market. And when get it, it's very, very expensive also too pure L. and Mr? Amazon. and Mr Ebay, if you continue the price-gouging. We will introduce our product which is superior to your product, and you don't even have the floral bouquet. So stop price gouging for more on this new report. FRY. Scout Djing. Prime Gouging how Amazon raised prices to profit from the pandemic. We're joined by Alex Harmon Competition Policy Advocate for public citizen. He's author of the report. Welcome to democracy. Now I bet it was extremely hard to get this information Alex. can you talk about how you got in the findings of your report? it was very hard. We we searched for products on Amazon and and. This is an ongoing thing they were doing this. Currently doing it throughout the pandemic and the vase, the key, the key point. When when this first started, there was a lot of talk about from Amazon and from others about third party sellers taking advantage and gouging. We about hand sanitizer toilet paper other things. And so we we started looking at this to give people guidance on how they protect themselves, how they could avoid it, and it became very clear very quickly that yes third party sellers are still doing this despite Amazon's claims of a closing those accounts and removing products. But Amazon itself is also doing this and the distinction is on the website when a third party seller selling it says by that seller and when it's Amazon selling, it says sold by Amazon, and so we focused on products. That were sold by Amazon that had significant price increases and. Very important to point out the products we're talking about and it, and it is a the sample products are deemed essential, and that is under a price gouging statutes are. Defined as during an emergency and then Specific products that are essential to that emergency. So you're gonNA, have water during a hurricane. During a while player. And in this case hand sanitizer type type products in the paper. Could. You give some examples of some of the the the levels of the A. Increases in prices on some of these particular products, and also could you talk about this whole issue of how China became a big source in the in the in the months after the initial outbreak of the pandemic four some of these products. Short and so. Both things we don't know is. Much about sourcing right. So Amazon is not very transparent about. Where they're getting products who their wholesalers are. Given product can flip back and forth between. Being sold by Amazon and being sold by third party, and then the sourcing can be the place. And so we weren't looking at, you know the questions of counterfeit answer the questions of quality. Because they just don't make that information available on their. Through their, search. But yeah, the types of products. Engine toilet paper we looked at toilet paper paper towels. Hand Soap. And we were looking for products where there was a significant price increase. So Price Gouging statutes range from state to state and most states have them. But IT TENDS TO BE A. Minimum on the low end ten, a ten percent increase is price gouging. In other states it's more and more but figure twenty, five percent, and so the the lowest price increase we found on these products that we. About fifty percent and then the highest. As EMU engine was closed with that fight over a thousand percent. But so for example. An e. pack of. Paper towels with over five hundred percent increase. And and The type of increase we're talking about what we're what we're comparing to. Ideally, we were comparing to previous Amazon prices. So it was truly apples apples. Where we could, we would find that product. Concurrently, available at another national online retailer for. Significantly lower than that was. What we call it was the expected price. So it's the price. That others are selling it for Amazon. has previously sold for. Now many people are familiar with the whole idea of war profiteering, but we're talking here about pandemic profiteering or or disaster profiteering by these companies what can be done in a situation where you're talking about an international company. Clearly. Servicing customers over the Internet and local state price gouging laws what needs to be done. So, if you do business in a state and while Amazon is online, they are definitely in states with their warehouses and their distribution channels. and. So they should be. Subject to all of the various state laws. However, we are advocating for a federal law to fill the gaps between. The various. State laws and the states don't have laws. But. Also during the pandemic in Kentucky, the Attorney General Air brought some cases against Some third party sellers in partnership with Amazon actually and a outside group based group sued the Kentucky Attorney General over there. price-gouging starts arguing that its attempt to regulate a online prices was in fact unconstitutional. As. Basically was Kentucky setting the price for all states and that they won in Kentucky and so that. Fans the Kentucky Statute is invalid. Other states have not had those challenges, but it is a reasonable possibility, but they could as they attempt to enforce them and so we believe it. Or whatever ever that we need a federal statute and to be clear, there is no federal crime of price gouging. Currently. So. I wanted to go back to this issue we raised in the lead of. Of Bazo S-. Becoming to say the least the wealthiest man in the world two, hundred billion dollars, right. Two hundred, billion dollars he will. He's the first person in the world who? Have made that bazars has made so much. In fact that Oxfam estimates, he could give all eight, hundred, seventy, six, thousand, Amazon workers a one time, one, hundred, five, thousand bonus, and still come away with as much money as he had before the pandemic and his price-gouging. Talk. More about this and also Amazon, saying they're going to hire one hundred thousand more workers. Hundred thousand more workers. Effectively minimum. Wage. Yeah, it is troubling and. We focused on how Amazon presented. price-gouging on came out very early saying it was unacceptable to them. bezos himself identified this issue in his shareholders letter, April? And our concern was, are they doing anything and we would argue they're not it has been a marketing campaign in our view not A. An actual effort to stop this process, and they would argue that it is there's millions of products and it's a whack a mole type. Process to try to stop this well. You can right now go to Amazon Dot com searching for essential products and fine price-gouging it. This is not a welcome all this is A. Pervasive problem and they're doing nothing, and so the only conclusion we can draw is they either don't care or there is a profit motivation here and it is important to note we were focused on. Amazon the seller but they have a arguably greater profit motivation when it's the third party seller engaging in this and so the third party sellers are continuing and it was on themselves they're doing this suggests that they do not see this problem because they are looking. To maximize profit during pandemic Alex harming thank you for being with us with public citizen author of the new report prime gouging how Amazon raised prices to profit from the pandemic, and that does it for our show will link to that at Tomography. Now, Dot Org Democracy now is produced with Rene, my thirteen Augusta will be rainy noreen shake Maria terracina Santa Carla Wills Tammy Warren of training. I Made Me Goodman Refund Gonzales thanks so much for joining us wear masks.