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California man allegedly caught eating 90-year-old grandmother’s body
"Police responded to nine one one call Monday afternoon reporting them reporting a man standing over a woman's body, wounds, bleeding body in a quiet residential area near the hilltop plaza in Richmond north of San Francisco. It's always something alarming might call the cops for that. Yeah, there's a bleeding lady and a man standing over, and I don't think he's trying to help. Officers ordered wallet to stop when they walked in and saw him huddled over ninety year old woman's body eating her, but he ignored them and continued doing what he was doing before four officers physically had to restrain him and get him in the handcuffs, so you know she must have been delicious. He did not want.
"wtf" Discussed on Dr. Judy WTF
"That covers the plan. Somebody who is Paul? Yes it is okay. Sure I'll take one more holiday ago to the shoot that too high. You are on the couch to use a Mary married to me. Meet you where you calling from. I'm calling from Plano Texas. Okay I really appreciate you calling in and I know you don't have a lot of time that had you relate to the topic of choosing ineffective therapist in the what the Freud Low My the first one she I I hired her to help me figure out what was going on with my marriage anyways so I went to her probably five time and I gave up in the end because I found that she was actually gas lighting me and I didn't even know what gas fighting. Okay and what did you find? Why did you conclude that? What was she doing the same because she was telling me to do something and then I went and did it and because she wanted me to put a tracker on my husband car because she's like you need to know where he's going because I thought that he had a sexual addiction you know and I didn't know who he was going out with. You know what I'm saying and I felt so bad and so then. I told her that I did it and she said I did not tell you to do that. Oh I don't know who has the story that that's really newly really difficult. When you're reality is different than your therapist. Reality so act went. I work a lot with people on craft Perception right perception means that you're seeing a distortion is not the picture then. If you don't think that you're there is just seeing released straight on.
"wtf" Discussed on Dr. Judy WTF
"Free to be in touch. Okay or thank you okay. You're very well. Thank you for calling a marine about bomb may be time for one with Paul slug over few points while you're welcome to call for chemistry psychotherapeutic chemistry. There is such a thing as chemistry. Subconscious is just not a good bit. Not everyone is meant to work with everyone. So here are some Some some reasons people keep away because from there because they have fierce resistance to therapy. They're afraid of exposing their childhood and Being Lang for They don't believe in the world anymore. They have no trust last saviour. They trust the therapist pinterest. Their parents remember pants of the bar. So why would they trust their agnes? So there's a lot of reasons. Therapy doesn't go so well off from mismatch shoe off has reasons. I mentioned one reason. People don't find an effective therapist is because budget or case simply they don't have budget to off to somebody who went through the education and remember it costs money to go through school and get licenses upkeep the clinic at upkeep with information someone so so forth in we try the psychological healing center to offer Sliding scale therapies in that. Mind Map video deal for ninety seven dollars by no means. Are you beholden to work with with with me or the team but by all means find somebody even if it's not inexpensive solution? Maybe somebody in your network.
"wtf" Discussed on Dr. Judy WTF
"Wonder I'm having these symptoms all no. My symptoms are talking to neither reminding me of what happened to me. Reminding me of what Jane Okay. So this is what I mean by working with somebody who has empathy working with. Selena has Repealing okay so I I'm hopefully offering you ask something solid grounding in knock just go check into a hospital which you may need will never discount that as a possibility maybe you need somebody to be do give you support and watch you academy then half that and at the same time learn and process. You're feeling so that they're not all over the place. Okay Roy and don't give up on on therapy and understand that you know the what the Fourth of choosing inappropriate therapist There's been so much inappropriateness. I'm sure in your panel. One rooms that you don't even. You couldn't even recognize a healthy therapeutic. Where parental figure if you shift on one go ahead and like you said it's real quick just because it's just bothered me so much so really humiliating embarrassing thing happened at work but they. It goes with what I'm dealing with because because I can't get to like profit therapy. I been listening to a lot of Like self-improvements development stuff and and a lot of it has to do with like a sexual sexual trauma like masturbation of semen or extension. I'm trying to and so I was using the company computer but you know the. The boss gave me permission to download stuff on on the computer. And I was deleting it like instruction like I was giving instruction deleting all of this stuff that I was working at but one of my also provides us. I think she was just being being on. Just trying to be a a the you know. Excuse me excuse the expression but I think she went and hacked into The history and then so she showed the other boss and then I got confronted about it and then she was like Oh. There was a lot of crazy s-h-i-t computer and And so you can't use the staff members can't use a computer more and so so they're happened earlier today. Oh largest. It's just been really eating at me like it because it was so embarrassing and it's not me right so reality of Mike so it was really weird. There wasn't really weird behavior to to do that. You know okay so so. You're seeing that the these behaviors which are expressions of pain expressions of pain in you trying to you're trying to get relief thou- going whether it be through watching something inappropriate you China. You leave it but at the same time you're getting yourself in more and more water in thin interfacing with embarrassing yourself. This is calling up by the way. I don't know what your history has. But maybe somebody shamed and blamed. You embarrassed you. So maybe you're just repeating this whole what Freud cycle of shaming and blaming embarrassing. I'm always embarrassing myself. This constant thing yet. Look Max. You're probably enacting it. So that's why we need a really really strong system to stop. Repetition principal stock the reenactment. I bought the memo. Okay so you're unconscious has to get the memo because if it doesn't get it. I'll just repeat repeat repeat repeat. We don't stop things until we complete the psychological. Wow so I'm inviting you to do that. Ninety seven dollar plan. It's a really really good a lot of information in a law for ninety seven dollars a you do get to choose which Therapist you WANNA do that. Coaching session with and then then you could take it from there. Do not give up in. Please choose somebody that has empathy to somebody who specializes in a in a childhood abuse to somebody who has the system of healing in two seventy in your gut feel comfortable with okay okay. All right never stopped.
Washington D.C. - Gov. Northam extends business closures, calls for Virginians to adapt to 'new normal'
"Extending some business closures making some other new recommendations as well in the face of the pandemic when people say that it's time to stop what we're doing and get back to normal they're wrong Virginia governor Ralph Northam says social distancing is helping so he's extending an order closing some businesses through at least may eighth recreation and entertainment businesses as well as personal care services stay home orders last until June tenth Northam calls dealing with nursing home outbreaks a real challenge and says the state still needs more protective gear and testing a lot of our energy right now is being focused on on how we help our economy but the new normal won't be normal get a mask and to get comfortable with it because I I think you're gonna need to continue to wear it in the upcoming months Max Smith WTF news
The Good, The Bad And The WTF With Alan Yang
"I think this is a good time for us to pivot to our regular segment. Our favorite segment the good the bad in the wgn. Jeff I feel good about that. Let's do that okay. So why don't you lay down the rules of engagement for Ellen? Okay all right. So the rules of engagement for this game We live in a world of rolls right now mostly related to social distance and hygiene but in this particular game. What we what we do with this segment is it's kind of a round table segment where we will ask our guest or guests s is we will join in as well to talk about a single topic three ways so you know one dish served three ways and the three ways are the good of that thing what makes us feel warm and fuzzy inside positive Joyful the ecstatic and then the the bad the negative side the darker side of that thing and then finally the W. t. s. one of the things that still to this day. Make us go right. They don't necessarily need to be either good or bad. It could be either but they still leaves a little puzzled so we thought that it would be appropriate given the amazing work you've been doing in this. I mean won't call the genre but Solitary to do the good the bad dose of telling immigrant stories. And you know we figured that this is something which we want you to share with us on your own so we'll just do that three ways with you beginning with the good if you can you know. There's so many good things about it but if there's if there's something particular that you feel is really just heartwarming about the idea that we're now in a space where we can tell these kinds of stories or even shelvin anecdote of telling immigrant stories that you WANNA share. That was particularly heartwarming. That'd be fantastic. Yeah well the good part is the easy part right. It's like the bad shitting. Immigrants Stores goofing around something but no the good part. The good part is easy. And it's it's it's multi part right one. Which is like were able to do it right now. That's that's the number one. Good thing it's like we were at a zero. These stories weren't being told at all. You know we. We were essentially zero and even in the last five years that's started to change in in you know starting from some of the stuff we did on master like that that you know covered some some some of that ground and then starting to work on. Tiger tail which is about that and then you know obviously little America is a whole show. That's about immigrant stories but Being able to be just being able to have the freedom to tell these very specific stories that that you know just were not in the cultural landscape at all when you talk about this country. It's like it just didn't exist so so that's great. Secondly you know getting to know yourself a little better getting to know your family a little better getting to Appreciate part of yourself that that you may have not been very in touch with because you wanted to fit in because you wanted to assimilate so so becoming more comfortable with who you are when you look in the mirror. That's all been part of this for me. It's been it's been really served edifying an interesting fulfilling And then a third part is and sadly this is probably more relevant than ever is is just kind of. I don't WANNA say educating people but because that sounds like homework but it's like a it's it's showing that these all of these people are three dimensional human beings as basic as that sounds I at the sounds incredibly basic and simple but if you look at the past if you look at the history of Asian American representation on screen is not human three-dimensional it is being depicted as perpetual. Foreigners is being depicted as nerd being depicted as a Guys or a you know atomic towns or sort of robotic and emotionless and you know in a movie like Tiger tail. I wanted to show that we are full of emotions and we are full of internal life and are we are living breathing emotional creatures who change over time and you have regrets and who love movies love and find it hard to talk to our kids in hardtop for parents then overcome that you know all these things of intrinsic in telling a story like that and frankly. I haven't seen it very often depicted if at all and so all these things are kind of why I'm passionate about telling me stories in There's many many more reasons. But that's that's just off the top of my head. I think it's just scratching the surface and I think there are many more stories to be told in many different genres including potentially horror action thriller. You know I gotta say given that. Actually living in a Har- inaction thriller right now There is something really meaningful about humanizing Chinese immigrants and other Asian immigrants in this era. Right you know showing showing Chinese people townies people literally without their masks is so important and bring them to. Life is something which I think has repercussions for actual life. So I'm super glad that even though it wasn't planned that that this is coming out at a time in which it's needed in that fashion. Yeah I mean. Look the totally unexpected circumstance. And it's just it's it's awful. What's going on? But you know the movie is coming out and the movie will be available for people to watch and if it if it's some small comfort and if it's you know depiction that as we said is three dimensional than of Asian people and people with Asian bases like you know I. It can't be a bad thing in my mind right so now we move on to the second round like you said. It's little more difficult. Although I'll tell you you know it doesn't have to be something bad about immigrants stories but it could be something bad about telling them right. And how the challenge of actually doing them right? So what in your impression Allen is the bad Santa tell this isn't this isn't a bad per se but it is a difficult challenge right so so when we were doing little America for instance it was a production challenge. Because you're doing eight stories that take place in eight different countries in eight different parts of the of America. So we're should and we're shooting the majority of them in New Jersey. So you're faking New Jersey for Uganda. Your New Jersey for Singapore. You're you're making new. Jersey are everywhere. So yeah talked to our production designers. Amien Diana about about the challenges of doing stories but that show went some crazy as to not only hurry doing that but then we ended up shooting Montreal for Syria and then I flew to Florida and we shot this episode. That took place on a cruise ship and we fake a Floridian cruise ship going to the Bahamas for Alaska. So at that point. I think we were just making life more difficult for ourselves on purpose because that doesn't have any big immigrant that just makes it much more difficult In the same thing happened in some ways and tiger tail. Because you're shooting in New York and you're shooting in Taiwan and interestingly enough again. This is kind of funny but just the way the days split up. We ended up having to shoot some of Taiwan Four New York in the movie. That take place in your shot in. Taiwan and I like I kind of want people to guess which ones they are. 'cause there's some scenes that they're in your. We shot in Taiwan which is so crazy and we had them put out a casting. Call for extras like we need non-taiwanese extras and all and so we got like white and black people in I wanted to be in the background.
"wtf" Discussed on WTOP
"Fixture genesis luxury the fits right Richard WTF is rather as we've been telling her WTOP right now most of the listing the area is under a severe thunderstorm warning we go live now to NBC four chief meteorologist Doug Kammerer for the very latest up yeah we're tracking that line right now to enter Rundle prince George's county down to Fairfax we still have that warning right now for DC in Arlington no longer includes Fairfax county however we are still seen some winded down around that area but the strongest winds right now into prince George's and Anne Arundel county this morning goes until twelve thirty winds gusting upwards of sixty even seventy miles per hour with this line a little bit earlier and we continue to see the chance for some trees down in this area so watch out if you're moving on through a fifty right now seen some shower activity this is not your typical thunderstorm okay there's there's no lightning there's no it is very light rain with this this is all wind and wind has been a major factor in the last couple of hours now in about an hour this will all be through a couple of showers left over by the morning hours most of the world to be on the dryer side of things after rather windy conditions overnight more win tomorrow highs in the upper fifties to low sixties as you make your way out about on your Wednesday we'll see a pretty good day mix of sun and clouds during the afternoon high temperatures as you move on throughout your day on Thursday back into the low to mid fifties as we move on into the day Friday looking at the chance for some shower activity during the afternoon not a lot not definitely not a washout a much cooler temperatures back into the upper forties to low fifties rather breezy conditions on Friday night in much colder wind chills in the thirties during the day on Saturday right now fifty two degrees out towards Dulles airport fifty five at towards the Maryland Science Center downtown and currently sit in medical paper fifty five degrees all right thank you Sir NBC four chief meteorologist Doug Kammerer this morning it's often the things you don't see that matter most trust and peace of mind long windows dot com good morning to you is is it's twelve twelve on your Wednesday morning here on WG a big traffic is backed up again yes nine AM meeting I still do this yeah wide right along change the way you can eat and get perks like a free guaranteed ride home in case of unexpected film emergency or unscheduled overtime always free commuter connections is a smarter way to register more new today commuter connections dot one eight hundred seven four five ride that's commuter connections dot org some restrictions apply WTLV at twelve twelve in other news this morning a local county council has pressed the pause button on a community policing bill but not before one council member made clear why he thinks the bill should pass Montgomery County councilmember Craig rice told his colleagues he was going to get a little personal and he did rice who is African American we called experiences he had.
"wtf" Discussed on Dr. Judy WTF
"This is my interpretation when you try your best but you don't succeed when you get what you want but not what you need so you get what you want. Meaning you're trying to please your parents but you don't get your own needs met when you feel so tired but you can't sleep stuck in reverse in the reverse. I from my way of seeing it is that it's a reverse system you're the parent and they're the child and that's reverse when the tears come streaming down your face face. 'cause you lose something you can't replace like your childhood when you love someone but it goes to waste what could could what could it be worse so when you put your energy into the black hole then you start to deplete lights will guide you home and ignite your bones owns and I will try to fix you. And that's the that's the child trying to fix the parents but high up above or down below when you are too in love to let it show or but if you never try you'll never know just what you're worth while you don't know what you're worth because you're too busy steaming the other People all lights will guide you home in ignite your bones and I will try to fix you. There's that codependency tears streaming down your face when you lose something you cannot replace ace Oh and tears streaming down your face and I think it's ends with. I promise you will learn from all your mistakes. Only if you get conscious and see either 'cause underneath it not repeating patterns you learn nothing lights will guide you home and ignite your bones and I will try to fix you. So that's that's what happens. It regresses back to. I will try to fix you. I will try to fix you in. That's the WTO off so thank you so much everyone for tuning in and know that we have a beautiful staff of people you can call in for the be the cosmonaut therapy and of course you know that you can get the mind map. Video series is and receive a free free. PDF copy of the book. which just asking you will receive? Good night everyone it really not eighteen yeah..
"wtf" Discussed on Dr. Judy WTF
"Didn't even have the articulation for it until I happened to cross paths with a narcissist. Oh come on who I believe. I'm not even say okay right. Let's not do look the labels but my point is this is. I'm new to this. I don't have all the language but I know there's something and I feel very strongly that even even though I may not have a memory of the parental education. There's something about it that keeps me in a state of serving being like where I feel like Cinderella. And that's my role and I can't get out of it. And my sister is very much like my mom. Where they're expecting me to be the handmaiden indefinitely? Handmaiden of there is so poor so you have enough emotional evidence dance. And that's how I play psychological detective. If you feel that there's something insidious in something that's a below the radar of consciousness and you keep eating out and and and Repeating these patterns I call it the WTO which is that repeat from the past so it's worthy To look at and I know we're we're just about out of time so please keep in touch with me and Yes do introduced me to this person that you had in mind okay imprint about you to her today so we'll be making a connection. Okay thank you so much. You're welcome. You're very welcome. My pleasure nice to hear from you again and so for thank you. Thank you so for all of you. Listening listening I hope that you're getting the The the the knowledge that this is a system gone wrong. You can blame yourself herself. You could blame. You can shame you can do all kinds of things with it and The best and highest way to look at it is it's just to To uncover the unconscious forces that rule you and then break those On conscious forces by making them conscious and then really concentrating concentrate on T. R. on completing the psychological poison. That's been hurting you. So that you can reboot your system and have a better part two you of your life and with that sad. I'm going to shrink that tune. tune by cold cold. Play and Here it is and and this speaks to the parental child. This is my interpretation when you try your best but you don't succeed when you get what you want but not what you need so you get what you want. Meaning you're trying to please.
"wtf" Discussed on Dr. Judy WTF
"Psychoanalytic questions dynamic questions. It was always about their parents. Oh my God I just created Havoc wall the gravitate towards it want to know why they don't want just the behavioral change. They want to know why they're in a pattern that keeps repeating themselves and when they keep repeating themselves in destructive relationship they make their full wits so damaging and cognitive behavioral doesn't get to the root it doesn't it has its place I would say in terms of the mind map. It belongs in panel three where the cognition come online and these negative core beliefs set set in stone and and embroil themselves into the fiber of persons. Being I call it the psycho virus again. It just doesn't happen can't just treat dead at the at the cognitive level and teach people to run a bunch of affirmations through their head or correct the thinking because what it has to be really addressed is the childhood wounds that led them to believe that they're worthless or led them to believe that they're stupid or led them to believe that they're better off dead. This is where we have to To go we've gotta go to the source. I'm so glad that you concur because Sometimes I feel very alone. Have my little team so I don't really feel alone in that regard However alone all the time but I get the rating reviews from the patient? And that's all that matters. It matters less what are called. It matters most of the impact that we're having on our patients patients so I I think we should keep in close touch with each other and see How he can make more of a difference in the world and an impact on a causal level and have a system that people can use to To more out of all of the the I call all at the darkness the shadows childhood wounds and find a way to be processed those feelings. So they're not just sitting there in the form of complex ptsd the and psychosomatic disorders. And and and and and even keep appealing so badly about them fell. They think they are the problem. They just need to be medicated or they need some addiction. That gets them out of this kind of work. Because you can't be in your addiction Shen and do this kind of work. But they don't know how to get out of their own way because they don't see that they feel so bad about themselves they feel so undeserving and then they just listened to the medical model which gets an in a worst place definitely and then there's no healing because it's the band aid effect. It's the it's the pharmaceutical band aid and you don't grow you can't grow With the band aid over your emotions you've got uh unfortunately or fortunately however you want to look at it Take that band aid off and look at the source and open open. Those childhood wounds not knocked to relive them only but to close the psychological file so they don't keep reverberating into the what the Freud's royds than those patterns in those defenses and and you you you know all about this. 'cause this is the kind of work that way. That's how philly right and it's never too late. I mean thirties forties fifties sixties. It's never too late to look at how you can do. Better in your life and have more fulfillment because these the people no matter how old they are they have a lost identity the suppression of their own needs. Give them touch a wath. Who am I because they lived for for other people beginning with your parents? They lived to serve them. That's the parade the fight child right and today in this is not just today. This is many days. Ah People sitting in my office saying I feel so empty. What's wrong with me and and then I'll say to them well? This is an outside in model in order to feel a full. You have to have someone put in there the nurturance unconditional. Love the care so on and so forth so if if you feel empty it's because that that emotional supply was not put in there so now what so. Now we've got to you. Put those elements in through other role models and unfortunately parents were not the role models to to do that. Job Bob and so it's not hopeless cause you can still meet your own needs even if you're as Dr Kathy says even if you're seventy avenue eighty ninety doesn't matter right right cop and you realize it's not your fault you're not the cause of part one of your life as I like to put it however are you can be because of partout once you wake up and to to wake up you gotta do that work and you have to feel like you're important enough to do the work because it really is remarkable. How many people can give up on themselves just feeling they are the the problem and if they just go away the problem will go away? It doesn't work that way. It started your right. Your work is profound. It's remarkable caboodle. Thank you the 'cause it's the beginning it's the route I've got to get to the foundation. Well we will talk. No there's another call that wants to who could act You and I will continue the discussion and I. I so appreciate my colleague here who I just met today from Yale L. University and And thank you for your your kind acknowledgment of of the mind map. And let's see what we could do to further further the the the plan of getting to root cause. Absolutely thank you so much for taking my call my pleasure and thank you for connecting with me today. Really appreciate it. Thank you bye-bye Take Care bye-bye we have another call. I believe okay. Hey Hi you're on the couch with daughter. Judy what is your name please. That did you see this is Allie in the DMV. How are you good how to winning okay so loudly own my God? I'm just you know. I'm feeling puck lumped basically because word good word competing right now. I know I'm exceedingly grateful for being alive at such a time as this. I am almost feeling born again about my excitement for your land breaking work. We talked last last week and Right yes and and I know you've been ruled a lot and I remember a few things about so you mainly you're so eloquent and you just get it and So I know we have only a handful of minutes Where are you remind me where you live? What part of the world? I'm on the East Coast and the DMV DC Maryland. Virginia and. I'll speak with you off air ear about this but I was speaking with a girlfriend of mine. WHO's involved in some amazing juicy work that I want to recommend you for from the standpoint of being a speaker? But we'll talk about that. I love it I would love it. I I gotta get out of my chair sometimes in trouble or something something and so give me an senate So just really briefly. And then I'll get to my shrink fat tune Pretty Soon Diab a question or two that you wanted to to ask her common to the wanted to make. Yes I do actually. I wanted to know what your thoughts were with respect to because I'm a brain injury survivor. I don't really have a lot of memories of my childhood. However as has an adult who was a child with special needs never really having them sufficiently addressed however now being in a really it feels like a thriller them kind of a thing? It feels like some kind of surrealism dynamic of being an adult child caregiver to my mom whereby I feel Porenta into fi but as an adult however because of the dynamic in the family with the measurement emotional animesh financial investment that kind the thing and still being somewhat dependent on my mom. My Dad is no longer in the body here. He passed away years ago. The thing is I'm wondering if there's room for an adult child in parental fide dynamic but this is very distinct from mom has Alzheimer's. There's or she's got some kind of neuro degenerative condition that is now requiring me as a full fledged adult standing on my own two defeat. WHO's been able to make a life for themselves away from themselves? Who choosing to come back? I never was able to leave there. Is this insidious tethering the ring. That is so heavily weighted. Still like an Albatross. Just WanNa make sure. I'm clear on your question so now you're in a position where you feel that you want to could help your mother and yet you were the printing fi child so now you WanNa know if you could be that adult after being the parental child. Is that what you're asking I. Don't I don't have a recollection From a brain fan point I don't recall hall having Been Parental Fai Child but I feel very connected and resonant around that whole concept of parental vacation and and. I'm definitely parenting my mom but this has been going on for a while a long time. This isn't because she's got chemo brain or anything. Nothing like that. This has been going on for a long time as evidenced by a number of circumstances in the family dynamic and as Dr talked to Kathy mentioned and also the caller Her name started with an empty very eloquent. Yeah I really appreciate it. Her share as well and she in fact Cathy sometimes so beneath the radar. You don't even know this so I'll what's especially when dealing with covert persons who are on the spectrum. I'm not saying has been PD. I don't know that but there is something look caller whatever you want okay. Let's take the label off of that and even let's take off the The the the the idea of wires wires she liked that maybe she truly is sick. Maybe she has mental disorders. Her system went wrong. The the main thing is that what is it doing to you okay. So if you feel that you're leading out and again I've referred a panel number seven. Seven is supposed to be the one and plus one equals three phenomenon. The where You plus the other person is supposed to give off more light than Deplete yourself itself and so when we're around people who are needing and when we're around ill people they do require a lot and especially when these these these situations are really chronic than you. Find your depleting yourself enough for ready You have Brain injury and so so on and so forth. Then you're you know you you need. So what are you GonNa do you giving while you're needing that's that's not a great formula for For receiving the light. So what do you do about that. You have to use the best judgment so you can and And and all the one hand you don't want to be cruel and not take care of something that needs to be taken care of on the other hand you've got to put yourself first somewhere in that formula you half to because you're not going to be good for anyone Neither yourself herself or or for anyone for that matter right. So whatever form of self care and that doesn't mean that you've got to go and spend Ben gobs of money that maybe you don't have it might just mean that you you You you curl up into little ball and meditate or take a hot bath authored just sit with your animals or Attend to your feelings or eat your favorite kind of food or something because bottom line. You've got a nurse yourself because if you're not nursing yourself then you cannot healthily a giver. Because then you're giving being is depleting got.
"wtf" Discussed on Dr. Judy WTF
"Then your parents ever were to you so in your tastes I would say. Stop the bleeding. which she did? Which means you to remove yourself from destructive people? Then then you have to recognize your pattern to get involved with people who are needy codependent and Argh only on you and potentially bleed you out in vampire you and then you've got to put in the good stuff which is now. I'm going back down to panel number eight. Which is the encoding coating panels? So did she. She did she steal your childhood. Ya I would say and now what are you GonNa do about it. So this is where we begin to be the cause of better outcomes To our lives as panel seven eight. Nine after you've done the work and then you can shift out of the old dynamics and recode yourself so in your case I would say pay attention to recoding by being able to have fun and play time and just act silly and be childish and Nurture yourself and be around people. Oh who take care of you once in a while and have people Take Care of you and learn how that feels because one other thing that happens is that you don't know how to take can love because he'd been giving giving giving giving get it and there's no opportunity to take in love I'm glad you're going through the mind map system. I love it I absolutely love it. Thank you your joy. It's I'm sorry it's a pure joy to me. Yeah I mean there. There's been very painful. I've cried so much stuff but I'm not numb like I I've spent my. I was so numb before I always freeze in my emotions in order just to kind of smush them away in sublimate them because I had so much to take care of outside of me right and so oh now. You're not smashing your emotions. Oh I'm motion. I way better way better. I'm so happy to hear for that and And and so just keep going through the process and write about panel number six as you know. is the process of removing the psychological poison through truth conversations and so Be Very very liberal in the exercises that I present in the mind map video series which by the way is available to everyone you can purchase the mind map video series I absolutely legit and panel. Fix was very difficult for me but getting through it to seven was a game changer. For my whole life and see the the thing is not not to sound like a cheap salesman but at the risk of sounding like a cheap salesman a lot of people spend thousands Johnson thousands of dollars on therapy and go through years months and years of therapy and in unless you have a system of of healing that really goes straight for the cause see. This kind of therapy is not a talk therapy model. It's not let's come And talk about your problems and And and tell me how your day was. This is not a treatment plan. A treatment plan is going deep into do the wounds of childhood how they embedded in you how to deconstruct them in how to morph into health. So this is a psycho educational the process and one of my goals is to get this into school system so if anybody has connections with the school system I think children children need it because There are a lot of children out there who don't have ideal parents and their self esteem of affected and infected and the quicker they can learn. How childhood wounds impacts them and encodes into their negative core belief? The more of a chance we have that they will not carry the load load of these horrible And destructive thoughts about themselves So just keep going over it even if you have to go so over and over and comb through your feelings. The main thing is that. You're not numbing thumb and the main thing is my favorite line in my book is is a quote by Einstein which is smart people solve problems in geniuses prevent them so the mind map is away to predict what could happen. If you don't set up your life in a healthy way because if you if you don't recognize your patterns you're doomed. Mm To repeat them if you don't recognize the childhood wounds that lead to the patterns and heal that deep level than you're going to turn them into implosion explosions and psychological symptoms and physical symptoms and Soma ties them because the the body and the mind are connected. So you already know this because you've lived it and you're doing the work and as a result You have a much better chance not picking people in the future that are going to bleed you and use you and abuse you and I'm confident about that. For the first time I totally trust myself and I actually I lived in a lot in relation. And I'm less isolated than I've ever had because I know I won't be tempted to reenact. Let's say something unconsciously you know what I mean like I know it's it's it's this this mind map series articulates for me what I always needed and always wanted that I could never articulate because I didn't know what it was consciously Johnson in writing. Yeah because it's all unconscious and I know we have another call in some GonNa give this okay of gifts to me and I really really thank you so so much. Is Your your mind map and reading your blogs and and and And this here tonight so thank you. You're very welcome. Thank you union. Okay good night take care good night and okay so I think Hopefully everyone out there is getting this horrible system gone wrong and I know we have another caller. Hi you are on the couch. Hi Dr Judy it Dr Capping. Hi How are you. Oh I've been talking to you. Yes and it's just a little background. Dr Kathy called me today and you're a an assistant professor. Yes clinical and clinical professor at Yale University and so impressed. I'm so impressed US Yale University okay and medical staff at Yale newhaven hospital do therapy okay. which is very much watch psychoanalytic psycho dynamic therapy and you know that last caller? What a beautiful story that she understands how much it affects for Life Ice Herenton by child and I wanted to share that you know in my practice and my work at Yale with patients that I can see the also this epidemic of fathers and daughters and how seductive the role is when a daughter is young young there so you know they they just love their daddies and they want to make an impression and their daddies might not be getting what they need from their wives? Yup Yep so that the daughter becomes this all important you know when the child is that important to be there for their daddy in a way that is apparent because their mother can't be there upslope various reason has just derailed the old their lives. I've seen outta lessons that they can't even stay in college because they're so worried about their daddies wealthier. They had seen like young women. That are just caretakers. Lost their sense of self because they have developed up to roll your entire life to take care of an adult it was such an important role sport role. They stay with them their whole life. They even and go into helping professions. Not In a healthy way while this is something that. I'm glad you're sharing because it's not on this little checklist of what I read it often. You're absolutely right. There's another form of parental child where that child becomes the wifey of the father or the or the sun becomes the little husband. And that's just maybe a whole `nother show and this highly impacts persons sexuality through -ality correct and and maybe they become very provocative and then they have to deal with the jealous mother or the jealous father her and it creates a whole nother spiral down and and and I'm so glad you brought it up and most importantly as as we were talking on the phone this this early evening I was telling you that I. I don't think my colleagues like me very much because I do things at ten sessions. The people take months and years and by the way as you know. This is a cycle analytic model. It's just that I happened to ask the questions quickly. Don't wait for years ears tasks somebody were. You sexually abused where you physically abused were you. Were you smothered. Were unique. Let let's get it out there quickly. WHY SPEND YEARS SO I? I can't tell you what one thing Dr Judy. There's so many it's amazing to me that after years and a years of therapy of some of the patients in this psychoanalytic group that I do. They don't even realize that they played this role whether it's a parental child or they it was like I say it was so seductive in a way that when your child and your that important to your parents Karen You don't feel that you've carried that caretaking role in such an extreme way in your life that you're the target for a narcissist absolutely lutely at target. Right that is that is called grooming. Right is out the room to be that person you tell me to jump and jumped so high. Just tell me how and I'll please you know until you burn out but the narcissist getting in a caretaker who will just mold to their needs. It's a perfect storm. No it's the perfect storm eventually but in the beginning it's natch made in heaven and you know the sad thing is an I put it this way to my patients is every child wants to please the parent and if the parent has has a hole in their soul. There's no amount of love that you can pour into the vessel that all fence route this beautiful A A fountain of love. It just doesn't happen that way. Unfortunately your poke your pouring your love into a vessel. That's just sucking you dry and Dan taking you down in depleting your energy. And that's what I define as narcissism system gone wrong where instead of the parents it's putting their children I they become number one and their needs become more important than their children. I WanNa know your your your opinion from a psychoanalytic point of view if you would concur with that definition because there's so many definitions of narcissism out there. Oh yes no. I absolutely absolutely concur. And then this other piece for the parental child dynamic with mom and dad is this piece of the parent. That's paying contention to the child and the child that's meeting the need of a parent now. The other parent is tremendously jealous. DOTS it as nationally Ashley with the centralized dynamically you were describing right. What is the parent going to think? And so many times in my office. Yes I hear comments like you know my my mother. embarrassed me in front of my boyfriend because my mother wanted to know that she was is prettier. Or sexier you know. What kind of conversation is this? Right is this Right and in a mother and the mother acting out. oftentimes I can be that the that the daughter might be getting a lot of attention from the Father Right. The Mother Act out in front of her friend. So I wanNA know what's going on at Yale. Yale is a top notch university in New Hampshire correct Connecticut in New Haven Connecticut. And what is what is the current way of thinking. So we know. There's cognitive behavioral behavioral therapy medication management is behavioral. There's DBT above. I am into minority. Okay W. above everything you just said it's a very nedical model. It is trey is diagnosis. It is medication it is. CBS maybe yeah it's behavioral a DVD for. There's a very strong DVD program. That I know is very very effective for borderline when I was I was covering for a while for some of the Sessions that that director of the program had some medical issues. And when I did and I started asking.
"wtf" Discussed on Dr. Judy WTF
"Father. And so when I was born I think I I know I really took uh of the brunt and also the fact that she wasn't coping and she did have undiagnosed. She was very high achiever but she had an diagnosed mental. The okay so you had a lot of Dynamics here that speak to the system gone wrong. A mother who was pregnant nantucket compromised and then her mental health wasn't very good and then she had anger towards your father's so you were Possibly And you used as a projection screen of her anger upon your father. Yes yes very much. So yeah and she had two other small small children right and he was killed in the war so Right there in California He was stationed so I mean it was a mess. It was just. It was a a huge mess and she ended up having to go back to her small prairie town that she hated and Menchu is a very high achiever in and it was a mess. It just was not good so that went wrong so the two siblings were they from another father after you or did she have those were older. They wish they they had two children. And then my father went to war and And I I was like I think she'd been carrying these maybe six months when he was killed in war So I mean she had you know like it was like a three year old a two year old and she had one on the way I was just like Oh my you know. It was just overwhelming and she. She had a very difficult childhood although she was extremely dream. Lee High Achiever And she just passed away recently. And it's been shocking my family's literally Gone quite I xe gotten very explosive so for since she's passed away I'm no contact and I don't think I ever be in contact with them again. Are you you talking about your siblings. That they've become very explosive. Yes and my extended family to like cousins and you know Aunties Jonquils It was you know. There's a lot of abuse going on. And but after she passed away it was just a a nightmare. Beca with people just became so grabby and violent and so Explosive you know so a total breakdown. Now we're into panel number four five six. It's beyond chaos and the defenses didn't hold up because people were not strong enough to hold their own on and then at the end of that part of the family dynamics everything exploded and so So therefore you had to go. Oh no contact because Maybe you just felt that there. There there was nothing there to work with and You getting involved walled. You getting more hurt is is that it was awful. I mean even like to the very day that she died MHM after that they were Like yelling and screaming about will and money it was just and it just never stops so I just I eventually said no contact okay so nothing was contained. You see how important it is. The parents hold up these pillar the role remodeling and the containment. And now we're back to John Bobi Th I contact the skin. Contact the ability for the mother to nurture the children and then for the father ideally to be there and nurture the nurture and all of that was just gone. Just fall apart so at the end. Everybody's falling apart. Okay so let me just go on a little bit more about Okay so in this this case there was no other choice but for you to be in that position because what are you GonNa do y you you know you've got hold up the Fort Right. So what are you gonNa to do and in. What ways did you try to do that? In what ways did you try to pull it together. Help your mother was it by physically helping her which they call in Asada Coal Instrumental parent to fixation where there's physical labor involved cleaning cooking helping younger siblings of chores chores responsibilities. And then there is emotional parent education where there's constant emotional support you become the confidante or the counselor of your mother and she may share intimate details about her pain in her her life with you the child so and maybe a combination the both of them. So what did you find. was so in in your family definitely The the support emotional support reported any time. you know if it was the middle of the night which it often night was much worse for her. I think so. She would wake up even if I had exam the next morning or whatever and she couldn't hear no should become violent so yeah there was emotional support and also everything like I would be like like suggesting for her books to read or or places she could go To get help or just keeping like everybody everybody peaceful in the house my siblings and keeping everything clean and and to this day I. I'm kind of a dull person is like it's like the I am very hung up on creating lake being very field aware so to speak and not really intern. What I I want to do with the rest of my life? I'm more like okay. No like even if. I'm walking down the street or the hallway where I live like of the condominium. Minium I'll be picking up garbage from the hall or like I. I don't know I just well that that is Situa- uh unfortunate example of the behavior. That is born out of that because now you've been groomed to take care of anything and anybody and it's almost like you're you're programmed right to ask the world except for yourself so this is where your your own needs get ignored and you become very external as opposed to becoming internal and paying attention to your needs because in order to pay attention to your mother's needs and and anybody else's needs it needed to be attended to you have to put yourself second. So this is where are the system goes really wrong. And this is where the mother becomes the primary and the child becomes the secondary and right and so this is good to have a whole lot of effects on self-esteem choices in relationships hips. How it's GonNa even impact your your mind your body your soul all of the above and And then and then I want to hear more about about what kind of relationships you picked as a result of being trained or groomed this way. Well I was buoyed as a kid because is I was an awkward child. Because I wasn't I was parental fide. And I wasn't I didn't know how to play and I didn't know how to you know like D- my teachers often referred to as being sensitive. I've noticed that and report cards. After my mom passed away I found like all of she was a bit of a hoarder so I mean I found all kinds of things but I noticed in my grade one grade to grade three. She's very sensitive child. She's a very sensitive child. You know you've said is what that means really but okay sensitive. I'm thinking to other people and not tuning in again into your own needs because who tuned to your needs you there. I'm thinking okay. That's that's the point see loan yes thinking because there's no automatic answer a person that grows up in in a family that's Unconditionally loving and supportive can answer that question quickly. Oh Yeah my mother tune into my needs. My father tuned into my needs. It's my siblings. Were there for me my grandparents but you see even the fact that you're taking so long to come up with an answer is this is the answer the no-one tuned into your needs. I think my great grandmother did a little bit when and she was very old she was very. She was eighty four when I was born. Eight take the closest I felt too Somebody Eighty who protected me or someplace where I felt safe so I want to refer to object relations which is a type type of psychology that talks about good internalisation parents and so when we have good enough mother which is a term that Win A COT DR winner. Kat used we have a good enough mother. Good enough father even a good enough grandmother. Great grandmother some of that good stuff goes in there there and that becomes are internalized pillar in you had some of it from your great grandmother as she was old. She didn't have the ability. I need to be there all the time and parent you when you needed On a on a regular basis and so he were left to your own devices and probably running on empty and here. Here is an interesting sentence that I'm reading from this article. Essentially parental notification means becoming the parent when you are actually the child thus it is a stealth of childhood that can never be you turned. It's the what of childhood. It's the stealth likely years. It's stealing your childhood. Just like what you said stealing when your child. Yeah that is so sad. Oh my Gosh I. I'm so grateful for your work that I can at least track my life and I can locate myself Elf but I'm a little at a quandary. I haven't finished like the the mind map entire series but I'm I'm a little anxious like kind of going. I really want watches. Spend the rest of my life consciously and not using myself in a negative way by becoming a doormat or a people pleaser or psychic impulsive garbage picker upper. Exactly I mean if you WANNA be A great person and pick up garbage. Just 'cause you're good citizen that's one thing but when it when it comes from the consciousness of being groomed to take care of the world it becomes very very depleting a pleading so i WanNa remind everyone that consciousness is causal so I wanna go back to this sentence here stealth of childhood. So when I read that I could feel your heart sink like Oh my God is this permanent is stolen. And I'm saying to you thought you have the opportunity to be a much better parent to yourself..
"wtf" Discussed on Dr. Judy WTF
"Hello hello everyone and welcome to welcome. We'll come to Dr Judy W T.F. And I'm Dr Judy Rosenberg clinical psychologist and founder of the be the cause mind map system for healing human disconnect. which I will introduce to those of you? Who are not familiar with my system of thinking by treatment plan on for therapy and tonight's subject is entitled the Parental Child Another W to another another W. T. F. system gone wrong so I wanna start by defining what is parental Fai? Child and apprentice. Hard heart child is just how it sounds. It's a child that unfortunately takes on the role of a parent's job and this can take many many forms and it can lead to all kinds of fallout material. which is what we're going to track and As of late I've been I'm having a lot of patients who exhibit symptoms based on too much pressure on them because of their parents not functioning auctioning asked parents. And I want to lay up. Lay off the dynamics of this and I'm sure there are a lot of people out there who can identify with at this system gone wrong and we do have a new call in number which I want to Say here so that you can please call all in. This is a Colin show and that number is three two three five two four to five nine nine. That's three two three five two four to two five nine nine and please feel free to get on the couch and call in and share with me. Your emotional ouch and how you have have been Pressure to function in a role that is non healthy and what that does to a human psyche and what that it does to the entire family system and then multi generations of family systems. So I WANNA start with the mind map and a and a map out the parental defied child syndrome. And then it'll make sense to you from a systems point of view so the the mind map is a system that I created to heal human disconnect and in case you don't have a copy of my book be the cause healing human disconnect. You can get a copy of the free. PDF simply by going to my website doctor. Judy W T.F. Dot Com amorous psychological healing center dot com. And then putting your email address in and downloading this book which you can then pay forward to anybody leaving you want. It's free so if you look at the mind map you will see that. It is divided into nine panels and the top three Represent the past and the past is based on how you've been coated all your childhood. The light light the darkness the good and the bad of it so if you look at panel one it. Re- represents wounds of childhood and there are five wounds of Childhood in essence. I concentrate in my therapy on these five. which are physical abuse Emotional verbal abuse neglect lacked smothering and sexual abuse and these areas than create a shadow over the person and instead of allowing the person a to develop into the best of their best they compromise the human psyche and breaks that person down and it creates all kinds of issues Horrible Defense mechanisms and symptoms and so on and so if you look at panel number two it represents the reactions to the wounds and these reactions live primarily in the amid de la. which is that place in the brain that is fight flight freeze and so as a result aww trauma we will fight her? We will flee or we will freeze and we will react and this reaction causes us is to be reactive in different situations in life that then call up these childhood wounds and they act as reminders. And that's why we loop through this process. We don't really he'll through it because we're just repeating and repeating The ripping open so to speak of old Childhood wounds and then when you get to panel three of this process you see the DNA strand which which represents the encoding these coatings are the self esteem department there. The negative core belief department and these negative core beliefs can Could be anything from for example. I'm not good enough to a loser. I'm stupid I'm ugly I'm hi I'm worthless I should never have been born and on and on and on and on. So let's look at the Porenta Fide Child Syndrome through the lens of the Mind Map. And so let's look at panel one and apply it to this particular system gone wrong and we could see that wounds sounds of Childhood in this case can be many and what leads to this This form of dynamics between a parent and a child could be a lot of factors. And I'm pulling out an article by Joanna macy the trauma of para to fixation and she talks about several ways that We could be set up for this dynamic and these conclude divorce so imagine if you're coming from a divorced family and your mother or your father are both are lacking support and and they lean on you too hard and demand of you to listen to their problems or demand of you to take over roles that would otherwise not be fitting a child. Then you're put in a situation of being the parent to the parent. So that's the Dif- definition of the parental fly charge you the parent to the parents and I think we have a collins so hi this is Dr Judy. And what is your name please. Name is Manja. I'm on Ya you sound familiar. I think I've talked to you before. Yes yes yes nice. Yeah Nice to nice to talk to you again. A where where are you. What part of the world all right? All right My favorite country country. I'm a Canadian I should say ex-canadian should've kept my Canadian citizenship. But didn't know better so tell me what's going on in your life. And how. How do you identify with this particular System gone wrong while. I'm doing the mind map series. I bought the series. And I I I bought the book too and I like using them. You know reading reading it. I like viewing it. Sometimes as I work through it you know I I guess what really comes up for me with this show is. I really haven't resolved a lot of the strong emotions I have about having been my mother's mother. Yup Right I feel like I lost my whole life than that I I very young became Like Like very I don't know just fixated on trying to to keep her like nick. She was like a rebellious teenager. She wasn't it was it was horrible. It was actually really horrible. I'm so ab- so sorry to hear that and you're absolutely right. You did lose your your life. You lost your childhood because we're in this In this dynamic did you get to be the a child and I want to repeat something that I say quite often which is a healthy dependency creates healthy independence. Okay so you never had a chance to be healthily dependent so therefore you'll learn how to be this helper this savor this The S- absorb of her emotions Maybe her her made her slave. Or however you WanNa put it so what was going on in your family that compromise your your mother or your father. Both so much on my father was deceased feast now but there was chaos in my family. There was just a lot of A lot of volatility It's weird because I was also also I mean. I wasn't always the scapegoat because it seemed like it was like a hat that went from one member to the other Suburbs it's not. The golden child never became the scapegoat. But I think more like it just moved between my brother and I and and sometimes it would be a cousin but yeah my family. Allie was very it was very sick family system and is I had to go no contact with everybody and I'm relieved but I'm also a little shocked shocked because I feel like I'm a mature woman now. I never really had a chance to just like like like what you said. Like just become fully independent and explore the world without being a caretaker. Right so somebody to shoes. Sure like all those awful things you know so I just want to go over some of the circumstances that lead to this dynamic so just bear with me and then we'll continue newark conversation how this applies to you. So what sets up. The system is What you said a deceased father mother? So when you have a deceased parent put so much pressure on the family and then won a scapegoated and then another scapegoated and the buck is passed all over the place in essence if we go to panel number three. I'm going to use it as a metaphor for pillar so you see how the Blue Strand and is one pillar you see that. I don't know if you're able to watch the show and see you know okay and then I do the pink strand. Let's say that represents the mothers so the the blue the Blue Strand is missing than the whole thing is gonna collapse right and so what happens happens is everything will go into panel for which is chaos and so go back to panel three and you could see that if that one strand is missing than what'll happen. Is those little people on the bond sitting and lying around and walking around on the blondes which are metaphors for the children of the parents. Yes they will kick in and they will try to hold up. This fortress this entire system gone wrong and our psychological whole muscles are not big enough to bear the burden nor should we be placed in a situation where we bear this kind of burdensome. I'm just GonNa go through some ways that this is set up and then we'll continue to apply to you and your family and why had to eventually go no contacts doc so abusive relationships between parents. This can cause the child to protect one or the other and be the confidant of the parenting right and then when the parents become dysfunctional than the houses in chaos and so One of the children may bear the burden of cooking the meals or cleaning the house and and taking on a adult responsibilities that are not fitting their particular agents stage and then of of course. There's alcoholism drug addiction. Which again brings down the system and parents become dysfunctional leaving the children to fend end for themselves and try to prop up the parents Then another dynamic is parental disability or chronic illness and unfortunately when a parent is disabled they don't have the help and support that they need to To to survive properly we with comfort and ease they may lean too hard on their children and collapse. The the system And then it could also be a sibling. Labeling that's disabled so that that that parents or the parents her so busy taking care of the other sibling that they ignore the other children putting you too much responsibility on them and in your case Death or of the parent is of significant Consequence here because they your mother leaned on you and one other thing that actually comes up a lot in my My therapy room is parents who have mental illness and self a mother schizophrenic or severely depressed or has some sort of a mental disease this ease than the children are not able to feel contained and their needs are not met. So thank you for allowing me to get the south there air so that people can understand what what is the dynamics behind it so go ahead and and and and I want to hear from you. How this whole thing unfolded ahead? And at what age was it that your your father Palestine my mom was pregnant with me and M Shed a lot of unresolved anger.
'Aquaman' calls out Chris Pratt for posting photo holding plastic water bottle
"It out that Jason Momoa aqua man he called out star lord yesterday Chris Pratt Chris Pratt for using what appears to be single use plastic water bottle in a photo taken during one of his workouts so they had a they had a Instagram flight Pratt struck a pose at the gym and he's standing there holding is the single use bottle and Jason Momoa said bro I love you but WTF on the water bottle no single use plastic come on there is no argument to be made against that how could he how could there be a battle you could just all we could say is you're right I I screwed up I should have done I'm I'm a Marvel zombies everyone knows what I have to say on command has the knockout punch in that now sorry star lord yeah he's right so when the how would you how what was his argument well he didn't he didn't argue back he said he said is that a picture of me where in all of the old look over there I did I would never do such a thing I would never do what I did Jason Momoa for he's he walks the walk you know yeah he he doesn't just sail out single use but now he will call
"wtf" Discussed on Dr. Judy WTF
"And and ultimately you have her back and if that one interconnection which you very nicely reminded me of assist with and she's counting on them and they're counting on her and sorry it was just cutting out again yeah I know that that I'm sorry I think this microphone may have people into our lives whether they're they're roommates or France or art dependable because we're deeply interconnected and look at what happened it was it was actually the lease of the apartments but had it set up that way if apartment and you know so many things online right now no unfortunately she couldn't count on the two people that she chose to live with her which is was in the reverse role and they didn't have the opportunity to go back home you know that's kids because of so many choices so in the case of your daughter she is going yes and so what's the entrepreneur rural venture that she takes a lot of the psychology classes and whatnot so can roots here you know I'm the only parent because I was broken I just I try my best to be hurting out for them if you do especially when you don't come from education so she just yeah she's yeah so so who aren't we talk about that okay just one of counseling center right then she's still carved out for herself back to great idea however ideas are expensive had a staff of people renting office space and an psychological healing center. Okay with those words I've got a good idea because now you're starting a journey and it's were you gotta root your infrastructure it can all be w t.f it can all unreal part of this she did mention that you have an idea there meaning oh somebody's in crisis and gone through and be there are going to be people that need seven o'clock at because she can't be up every night seven days a week however I'm a big work for a company and learn on their structure because yeah put yourself in structured environments so your mind you create experience through doing that to absolutely right learn from and gain the experience from and then you just take that knowledge in business to help others or there's so much you can let's not kill ideas of our children because even Harvard medical cool the most money made are are are made by people who are passionate bad I just feel that we need to strongly support them her mother so now we can't do that we can't tell our children what we'll have plenty of people in my office who have parents like that and it's at their parents expectations so a lot of children young adolescents on the pathway to being your own person he can't be so naive as to think nothing wrong with going to work for companies so that you can understand beings and policies and procedures I remember when I started my back end of the the computer stuff goes mom mom mom you you're going to have to learn how it goes no mom you can have to sit down and have policies policies and procedures so that you could see the blueprint of other people's a potentially worked for was also an idea and somehow they took their idea their policies and procedures and everything's nicely patented and corporate system so so that's part of entrepreneurial ship assistance so I know that I do that still today Yeah Oh wow I'm really echoing sorry no I don't hear on pretty yeah the way more wise than we than we give credit douse the with some reality and and let them experiment up again and then you're there to guide them and ask them the right questions be socratic owner that's going to be available to children why don't you work for an Adolescent Treatment Center for the company are going to have to work for be a lawyer or doctor but absolutely guided by their if they're because something didn't work out if we WANNA use the word fail it doesn't live they have yeah we don't want it we don't WanNa oh I know in the name of time I'm going to go to my usual shrink is keep in touch with me okay and you have a competent yes the president for number no it's all announces hey I appreciate your time thank you so much okay you're very very welcome clean out the author of the song so please look it up I don't want to discredit it is so we out of time fishery you okay I don't in Ohio not me and I don't give a damn about my bet my reputation going about the reputation and I don't really care if you think I'm strange I ain't GonNa change.
"wtf" Discussed on Dr. Judy WTF
"Oh can you WANNA know that. Tonight's episode is called Generation Lynn Millenniums the after baby boomers and then they're also view experienced being then the generation y are babies born after that period of time ars and the w worldwide web and there's just so not date and and what kind of job to choose it on and on and on so please six so i WanNa hear from parents of generation x and Y I'm that I created for healing human disconnect and how this topic applies creator of the mind map system for healing human disconnect e mail you a free copy and please pay it forward because to them how we encode them how we end up and I want to put this all in the context of The New Millennium and Tom Gone wrong so if we have a generation of people who can do what the Freud good boundaries and good role models and parenting and it's very very challenged because they're not going to feel with them so in in essence they're gonNA have to reinvent themselves and so and just a sense of tolerance for other people and a therapist is name is turn Amos Tests Brigham and purpose so she says that she never expected to be a millennial twenty three to thirty eight and there unprepared for life but after studying this group of people affect diverse in either to make a social impact but there are also many anxieties. I'm worried I'll never make enough money I feel like a failure I don't know if I'm setting it is a real thing according to Bass tests Brigham they don't know which job to turn to and sometimes they go through many doors let's go back to the blueprint the parenting the parenting styles as a result of the blueprint that we pass to them so what and that's not always going to produce the best outcome and some parents are very an ethics and that's not always the best outcome either and some parents are in children get the kind of parenting that is a going to APP when children get all the nourishment the emotional nutrients families are disintegrating and money's getting challenging and assistive media as a very dangerous place it's going to have an impact on the next resources so this is going to have a huge impact on the next generation Vince if they're being instilled with with structure and Israeli is up and that a lot of the children may not have being in without is the case then they don't develop what I call of healthy dependence I in other words you've got to lean on your parents that that that are that are the outcome of this new the three things that are likely to occur when young adults are faced with too many a place that we can go to that's a safe and in protective barry talks about the impact on these young adults one faced with too there are of places to eat how many choices there are for prone to make poor choices too many choices was wrong maybe if I chose that career I wouldn't be struggling now or maybe if I chose maybe I have my money in in better order and I'd have more of is that as I mentioned this kind of a second guessing of themselves I don't so one of the reasons these people go to therapy mm-hmm is wrong choices and the depression is because sometimes it's so that in to into depression so there's another Liam's as millennials as people between ages types include entitlement shiftless nece egocentricity about so as I mentioned when we have healthy independent region the more we are able to slowly acquire a stronger our structure disintegrates and we find ourselves in so so I think that what I originally thought of doing this show if we do what we WANNA do well we're going to get whatever the Freud we're kind of just going to be left to our own devices and it's GonNa early have a traditional job and they make their own hours other hand it's really really hard when people don't end up scheduling themselves Pathak and an primarily interested it seems to be invested in and as a result we have beautiful connect people and he'll people and so on the truth is percent of them are depressed and fourteen percent suffer from anxiety discuss what we need to do to support our children our grandchildren together a plan because oftentimes when things are done without or chaos and defenses and breakdowns into Jenner Tivi and creativity and and better ways to connect with other human beings so that in progress our connection with other people and the article talks about this in my practice I see people who are very nervous about their careers they they and and that they're not living up to the expectation of their parents educated let's go to college let's get a degree let's get a profession let's learn life and that's not always the case with new millennials they're not necessarily very very self educated so another fear that jobs and are still living with their parents little so let's talk about to be Persian and you're a girl and you're still living with your parents because you're not married being at home and you can't afford to be living at home in your own apartment in into is clashing with a of a yet financially because they are not financially parents grandparents millennials and whoever is out there I'm sorry if I missed some of you and if some of you just didn't know what we were going to that is taking over the world and to do with all these millions of choices and and wing the parents who are supporting them emotionally so the children are are picking up the message from the parents who certain point but sometimes the parents will infanta allies their thirty two and that doesn't make for a very great dynamic so some need to be responsive to that so I'd like to hear from you if you're having a challenge with and you don't know how to treat the situation three to eight to six so money problems are only many decisions what is the right decision am I on the right track and going through a door which is representing a choice and then if that if we choose that other door and that job opportunity feels as well the road literally is getting narrower and narrower and narrower everything up in the air and say okay do whatever the Freud you want to you mean emotional backbone intellectual backbone traditional route and educate themselves in a trade we give the non structure the more the anxiety dolls down I'll feel unsafe and insecure when we enter territory do than there is a fear factor there's kind of like jumping out of the airplane unknown so in my book be the cost I talk about the precipices that choice point which way are when we make a choice because we have too much information and too many choices are we then stand on that precipice and make the kinds of choices apple's of some of the challenges that new millennials are feeling and some John and I just wanted him to sit with me and have contact for in in India and I'm connected here and I'm connected yet but I'm sitting here right smocks princes than for those of you who know me you understand that I'm all our biggest fights are around the computer gramma so let's not forget the addictive property of of took by interest it was a word cult dubbing and that word the connection with my sitting there whether it be my grandson or my son or because let's just read you off some statistics here let's see people who who are online frequently attend eight percent are sexting there are fifty texts sent today well I think that the more complicated we are the more social the less and less we have an opportunity we parent our children when we're on the phone when we're texting could that cell phone before your child or you put that cell phone before your girlfriend if you're not special enough you not interesting enough something only it's only it's only the do the right thing dull some information on the computer and that's understandable however put the cell phone down try to shut down the computer and and and and so I think that that is something that the new millennials and having dinner together and having live face to face to the SORTA coal called Y. Millennial so anxious and unhappy so so so at the age in years metaphorically speaking people in this position see their lives the others have closed so here it is making that choice will abson smaller room and then if that choice doesn't work out for people making choices imagine themselves in a long hallway model looks even more dire when you consider the millennials heard of living okay so here is again the more traditional job if need be you know kind of like the plan B. Go aw back on and that's sought to take away from creativity to understand that the average late baby boomer your future whenever you can if you're baby-boomer think flexibility because premised upon once genuine beliefs in values and not worries or enamored by your idea and you believe in your idea and it's an idea and you have to fund that idea and maybe you have to set up infrastructure for that idea well then moving parts to it that once the ideas put in motion investments the idea and then run out of cash and become disillusioned stupid I told you that you're a loser okay so do you see how a lot and we have a caller is so high you are on the couch and yuning why not call been before but I am definitely relating to your topic tonight about these these the in your concerns with our with our children yeah and there's you know there's so I thought well wait a minute it's not all doom and gloom a lot of these children are really creative Austin all the disconnect and all the mess so as apparent Tommy your experience and well I feel like they have the ability through their sensitivities by so they can be agreed but yet followed follow their heart's desires because I think tell them to do yes and how is yes go ahead nontraditional path and I don't know what your family financial okay so they're out on a limb they're taking a risk in as I was talking about before okay it is fun it's incredible but now I've gotta get how do you feel and deal with children when they take an untraditional path dabbling with trying to gain some independence as far as living on her own didn't go well because she tried it on her own and she was working and attending the university and then in ones that are paying lose their they lose their internet fail if somebody else didn't pay their part so that's just a minor part of it I just tried to make her strong in her her roots and knowing somebody to listen to you about decision making or whatever she can come to me about anything and I believe they I think they just really do with my next generation children they really do give a damn she also has the knowingness for her yeah and I I have spoke to you before was fighted you back somehow 'cause I was just open about your experience in the suicide of your son and so they call in tonight is because what I have learned since he's passed away appearance were me working and trying to be all of you know the doctor the nurse the dad being with your son and your grandson and just the open dialogue I feel silently and I know it was all the pressures that you talk about in tonight's show that's why I'm like especially being a male and the direction and the choices many choices and even like with the technology that you're speaking of you know Ian connected it I have friends all over the world on the Internet to like you.
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"Maybe a banana spider bit someone's junk. I don't know that would give me erectile dysfunction. Bring them back. How? And like there's some doctor somewhere that goes banana spider, venom, you d banana spider, venom ED I'm gonna put these together fix it. That would by angers made. No just checking. No. No, no. Who got junk bit. You think that's out work. Something. Don't go together. No, let's see the US ADA claims or has stripped, Lance Armstrong of his seven tour, two fronts titles. I'm trying to think of a ball jokin. I can't he's trying to be aired namic. And for the moon, we have a crescent moon. Recycle. It wasn't a full moon. But as you know, our story doesn't Volva bridezilla, those bitches are crazy. Okay. Movies, some movies, total recall with Colin Farrell movie diary, a Wimpy kid dog days with Zachary. Gordon don't know who that is good. It made seventy seven million dollars. The first one don't plan us. All right. So hope springs with Meryl Streep, you lost me, a Meryl Streep. All right. But it made a hundred and fourteen million dollars. Now total recall made one hundred ninety eight million. All right. So almost two hundred million right? The Bourne legacy with Jeremy Renner made two hundred seventy six million dollars. That's Hawkeye from the. Vendors series. Oh, yeah. You gotta tie it back tomorrow for me. Okay, kinda need to watch that again. Now the campaign. Right. We'll Phero just forget, he exists, there might be like him the million dollars. It was good money, but he knows me so bad. Well, that's not a reason to get rid of somebody. The expendable to the that's still loans semester stone. Yup. I don't remember that. But it made three hundred fourteen million dollars. Looks like the biggest one on this list. So we saw the first one I don't remember but we did see it. It was good. But I didn't have desire to see the second one. Okay. So that's why I never thought the possession with Jeffrey dean eighty five million. I was gonna say you have to seen that at horror movie I like all was good bad. It doesn't really matter right there there you were flipping through what was it net? Flex looking for a horror movie in you win. Thirty minutes and couldn't find when he never watched. Yeah. Sell barry. That doesn't seem like horror movies. Really good bad hor just as long as it possibly scares you. I think you're broken good, hor bed, or, or with Bubis of embedded. Embedded helps to all right. So the New York Times book report, so number one was gone by Gillian Flynn gone girl, gone girl. The way she's not fucking around anymore woman disappears. On the day of her fifth anniversary is her husband, the killer, we saw the movie I was gonna say that was a movie Ben Affleck move. It was good. Where we belong by Emilie Griffin. A woman successful life is disrupted by the appearance of an eighteen year old girl with a link to her past. Okay. Forever by Danielle Steele that person Daniels still still alive? How many books as she redden twelve thousand at least? You like that, number three boys and two girls who meet in kindergarten maintain their buns as they grow into adulthood. That's way too much history for medicines boring blacklist by Brad Thor if the counter terrorism operative Scott without harbor can discover who targeted for death. He can prevent a terrorist attack. Okay. At first, I got excited because I thought this was related to the TV show, but I don't think so it's completely different you. Okay. The fallen angel by Daniel Silva, Gabrielle and art restorer and occasional spy for the Israeli secret services covers a global criminal enterprise behind a murder at the Vatican because as things go together, art dealer and spy, and Bada and well, you know, the church. I mean the Denver. Yep. Broken harbor by Tana French in French force Dublin. Infringes fourth Dublin murder squad. Novel double-murder spot, they had plenty of those. Detectives investigation of a crime in the seaside town Vokes memories of his disturbing childhood there. What seaside town? Ooh. Oh, year just getting excited. I group in Dublin so right town. It can be your that. All right. Michael Bennett by James Patterson. God he keeps writing books actually he'd proxy writes. Books is James Patterson. And Michael Ludwig. Does he write anything by himself, Nanya more? He pretty much writes everything in partnership. Helping people or does you need people to help him die. Have no idea. A New York detective takes refuge, was his ten children upstate cabinet. Oh, ten children. Again, is this the same book series? It must be. And here's the thing. The New York protective takes refuge with his ten children. If you're gonna take refuge refuge taken without go without the ten children. This was on one of our other lists where he was investigating kidnappings of John. Yes. In New York, which is we said it was probably one of his kids kidding. Ten kids how shadow of tonight by Deborah hearkens Harkness an Oxford scholar, which in vampire Genealogists pursues history secrets, and other other in Elizabethan London. Okay. That actually sounds good. Is that Creole bell? Yeah. All right. By James LeBron, Louisiana, -tective day, Robichaud hints, for melting Cajun's. Hunts for missing Cajun's there. So this isn't on the last list, we had to there was a Davor of show. So for two years, he's been on the New York Times bestseller list. Was it two years in a row? I can't remember it was two years. Two years for our show. Yup. Okay. So and finally number ten twenty twelve we have a dance with dragons by George r r Martin. Law battle the seven kingdoms face a new threat book, five of song of ice and fire is that game of thrones. That's a game of thrones book, which you will never ever read. Now I can't I can't keep track of all frigging people in there. I can't keep track of for two or four people on one murder. So did you try to those books, once I try to read the first one, I got maybe halfway through and stopped, you know, when I stopped reading, but I realized there was a TV show that would make it easier. I was like let me just watch that he may show truth better. All right. So music, ten in the chart, if you can go heat wave by Wiley, forgotten cheering misty. It was a bikini party rains. Yeah. I think it was the four screens. So we'll be coming back by Calvin Calvin, Harris didn't know it spectrum by Florence and the machine very Florence and the machine over songs. No, they're all little, I like them. Oh, so sweet. So it was I could tell the difference, but it had the same theme to it starts off. Slow then speeds up. All right. Payphone by maroon five yes, the song was great though. Thing was a little different video video kind of ruin the song, because it was gunfire and stuff in the video, and it didn't really seem to the video. Yeah. Work for me. All right. Blackheart by stew? She stuckey. Yeah. That was weird. I've never heard of it say, if I think it was a British group maybe brokenhearted by Carmen. I love that song. Yeah. That's on your Carly Rae jumps in platelets selling me out. Yes, it's on my Carly Rae Jemson playlists fuck off. All right. And then feel the love by route a mental loved it. No don't wake me up by Chris Brown. So I had to look it up. This is after he beat the shit outta Ranna. Yes. So he's a punk bitch for that show, those pictures, you didn't even know about it. But if you're. Fuck you fucking leave do not it. So what bullshit? Yeah, he, he did a number on her face. It was bad. So and then Vegas girl by Conard Mainur. It was weird. It was it was very Justin Bieber. Young weird shit. Yeah. And then whistle by Flo. Rider. So I could watch that video all day long. Yeah. It had something for everyone that was through some Bubis and some butts and wasn't a bad song decent ads. I was very happy watching that video. We watched the most. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It was good. Good music view. It was a good all around. All right. So we have twenty twelve TV shows the started. Right. So this is my baby, 'cause I actually get to do research on that, right? No for aero. Did seven c seven seasons and the eight season is its last line of duty is still on elementary seven season. Not getting too. I loved it. That's what I'm going to watch. When you die. A lot TV shows to watch making less. Yes. So Chicago PD six seasons. Don't know veep seven seasons girls six seasons. Tried to watch it. Did me. Yeah. It was I thought it was really annoying. Oh, dude girl, but I was really kind of annoying. All right. And then scandal seven seasons. I got didn't watch like the first two or three seasons and I stopped. Yeah. Probably just because we were waiting for new season to come out and forgot about it. So we should add it to our watchlist. Maybe I dunno missing it. All right now, twenty twelve TV shows by ranking go for it. All right. So we got NCIS we're still killing marines. All right, number two, which seems to keep moving on up is Sunday night football. I wonder if it gets better in the rankings, as you get closer to Super Bowl, I dunno might be there were three big bang theory, good finished. It's kind of sad. It's gone. Yeah, they're done. They have pictures on their Instagram taking down the set..
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"A computer? So I think Chinese -cational system sucks. Okay. So we're not going to China anytime soon. That's very true working at a church day, odd jobs until two thousand five away. He bounced around from job working at a church doing odd jobs until two thousand and five while he's working at the church. He tells his wife, he's God's voice, and now response to this, she picks simply. Tells into sleep it off. So imagine me coming to you, any time in our marriage and saying, hey, guts, talking to me is your first thought going to be, well, maybe you're tired. I thought would be get the goal for me on the fuck away. Not. Hey takes sleeping pills, and call me in the morning. All right. So that's the KOMO Mary. In two thousand five he got a job as a forklift operator simplest culture and his wife worked as a waitress in Winnipeg. This is also the year he found he was found walking in days, only a Canadian highway and admitted to a psychiatric hospital for evaluation once Simi, lucid he checks himself out against medical advice and does not seek further help. So he's heard God's voice, and now he's found walking along the highway till he's a picture of mental health parents completely out of it. Right. And he just checks his only out. I mean he probably went home. Sleeping pill. I'm sure it was all fine. But yeah, I mean this, this is not how the scenes live their life. What could possibly people saying? People live their lives. All right. So for some reason in two thousand and six leases fuck it. He actually said fuck. Fuck it different accents. Not doing. Just thinking about bucket. He's act. He says fuck it here's his wife and moves to Edmonton, eight hundred miles away, which leave your wife. No shit at least across the country in Edmonton, he works at WalMart. Mcdonald's even doesn't newspaper delivery co workers described him as a hard working and reliable. But that changes midway through two thousand eight just four weeks before he completely loses his ship. He gets some type of disagreement with a co-worker WalMart and he's fired because of it yet. So getting fired from WalMart. The full is actually happen. You have easily get into a disagreement with coworker. Walmart is not the place you get fired from WalMart, place, you go from parole too. I just thinking about like the league in screaming match that must have happened. All the Chinese. All right. So let's fast forward four weeks to July, two twenty ninth two thousand eight at midnight July twenty eighth. Okay. So midnight joy Twenty-eight Libor to bus bound for Winnipeg. Hawaii going to Winnipeg. Well, transcript stella's that Lee says, oh, God told him to go to Winnipeg, God speaking again, he's run out of sleeping Burley's, much leaving very well and I'm more interested in. Oh, God told mistake greyhound preference for greyhound. Maybe that's one hell of a advertisement travel with us. God likes us. So we know that lease on a mission from God, which we can call all agree. If you're actually hearing guns what is about to go down. Well lease on his best for eighteen hours. I would lose my shit after being on a bus for a did ours don't work. He will lose his ship. No issues mentioned on this leg of the trip. Passers passengers don't even notice Lee, and everything is moving along just swimmingly. Keep swimming just keep swimming. Dory. Batori story craft. All right now, Lee whose unissued from God decide bucket. I'm not going to listen to God anymore and I'm not going to Winnipeg at six pm on July twenty ninth, he gets off the bus in air Manitoba and spends the night, sitting on a bench for the next twenty four hours. So he's been sitting on a bus for eighteen hours now. He's going to sit on a bench for twenty four more. Maybe the bus was less comfortable than the venture. I really fucking doubt it, but it was greyhound Cisse's notice I say, sitting that's because witness statements say that three AM on the thirtieth. Lease seen sitting bolt upright with his eyes open on that same bench figured this guy hasn't slept in twenty four hours. And we all know he needs to sleep otherwise he hears. He hears God shit if he does walking down now freeways. All right. So lease OB words, have him listening to guide. So he's sitting on a bench listening to guide. We'll probably I don't know. Okay. So for almost twenty four hours. No sleep God's whispering any ear, what could go wrong. Well, as we are about to find out a lot. That's all in Cavs would I nervous you You like it. like it or you link has now disobeyed God and did not stay on the best heading to Winnipeg. But take some bowls. If you go tell you get on this looking bussing go here. He decides FU God, I'm getting off at you. Chinese accent. Okay. I'm really trying hard not to do this disrespectful accents right now. All right. So he told God if I have decided to tempt fate gets on the next bus that stops in front of him. That buzz is the greyhound bus carrying Tim McLean to Manitoba Canada. Regionally sitting at the front of the bus with soon after the trip started league. It's a message from God, that Tim is evil and going to execute him receiving this revelation. He moved from the front of the bus to sit next to town, so yeah. Apparently, God warns him that Tim is evil is going to execute him in his first choice is up next. Fuck. Yeah. That wins survey gotta moved and sat next to him, if I get a text message coming on text message from God wins for. This message from God that someone's going to kill me. I'm getting off the fucking balls. Staying away from that person. I'm not going to do next to the person but hey that he had he made. So soon after taking his seat next attempt Lee pulls out, what was described as Rambo style hunting knife, and stabs him repeatedly in the neck and chest saying repeatedly is a little bit of an understatement. Witnesses stated he kept stabbing Tim upwards of fifty or sixty times he was on mission from God. Fifty. What's witness was sitting there one two. The coroner's report says fifty or sixty times, but those are some observant witnesses. Keep reading, it's, it's worse, we wish this is where the story could end. But as we know lease getting directions from God, if you read the Old Testament, God has a habit of overkill retreat. We've already seen over Cal fifty or sixty times he was making sure you got the job done. Okay. This point there's a panic button on the best. No, there's a panic on the bus, probably panic. Don't worry, the driver quickly pull over and all the passengers ran off the best, a very brave passenger and truck driver who's had stopped help attempt to get back on the bus so they can see if they can help Tim Tim is beyond help fifty or sixty times beyond probably a and fortunately, we get back on the boast they see lease beheading him. He's a vision from God. Oh, god. God said kill them, apparently so Rambo style knife, and you're beheading someone that's not an easy thing to do. Right. Me. The biggest thing I've beheaded as a chicken. Okay. Since seeing them, Lee charges them, and they both could data just. High tailing it off the bus in close to close the best stores behind them trapping. Leeann side now that Lee is trapped inside the bus. He goes back to the body and starts dismembering the body of Tim Mickley. He completely severs Tim's head and runs. Runs back and forth on the bus with the head. I just want vision guy with his arm the head and his hand running back and forth on the best like a little kid on the school with a really high pitch changed. I. At this point. Some of the other passengers are now on the roadside. It wouldn't you? I can only imagine the scene the blood coming out of the bus, and there's a stream of vomit going down the side of the freeway. All right. So nine pm the police arrive window the start. This is like six o'clock. Right. No started around Kate. So we're about an hour. Okay. So we're about an hour ends in. Yeah. So the police arrive at nine PM. Please do not try him board the bus no sh. I would really well. What's he going to do you have a gun? He has a nice he's done a lot of damage with this knife, and he's got ahead. Don't forget, he's got ahead. So when they hear right and instead of trying, they try to negotiate with Lee, these hearing voices from God. We're going to try and talk to him more. And fortunately this go she takes a bit too long league gets hungry. Yeah, he's penny. Lee removes the eyes nose ears tongue and heart. Oh he eats. He's impart of the heart. We know which part of the heart doesn't matter any puts the other in his pocket, T. Staving snacks, Relator sofa growth of healthy AM after seeing the God told him to never leave the bus leaves ice to give a big FU to cut again and attempts to exit the bus where he's captured. Okay. So this is where the story ends you so wish it was, I have a whole nother page. Yeah. I know it's oh, I want. Here's what I wanna add happen guilty. Kill him put him in prison. I don't care. What do they have the death sentence can Canada Notre nice for that? Jink and purpose. Another way, nice and candidate for the death penalty. Okay, Lee who is crazy. I just have to read, what you put on, I wrote, no matter what I wrote was crazier than my mother had a good-will sale. She likes me like you. Not going to that goes to court. And, of course, is found in Saint, imagine if he wasn't founded. Well, they some crazy that happens around here we don't have Canada. They give you the benefit of down candidate. So have you say God's talking to you and you're not in saying, all right, but he's still convicted of second degree murder on Canada's second degree murder means it was not planned. So I understand this part at all how who crosses country on a bus with a Rambo knife in their fucking bag? Rambo. So he had a ramble night. He was going to do something to somebody. We just don't know who this time. But he wasn't premeditated. He wasn't thinking about it. Seriously? He was he was going to kill somebody they because he didn't know who he was gonna kill. Maybe that's where so I can go out and throw a dart hit somebody in the head and go billiard ball. I'm not handle. I coordination is not that good. All right. So these found guilty and insane and sent to the show Kirk mental health center and put into secure word. So he's locked away and we're done now. Right. This is Canada are overly. Nice, so no, we're not done yet. All right. May two thousand eleven only two years later Lee is reported to be doing much better. And it's recommended that he received more freedoms facility over the next few months, you know, being allowed to walk around with the nurse in the grounds. Hang out in the community, who typical kinda shit I so I'm good with all this from with that. I mean he has heard God's voice in two years. Well, we don't know. He's God poisoning. He's not admitting to God's just being nice to him. Okay. So this goes on for a while in may seventeenth twenty twelve the illegi decided he's doing so well that they will allow him to have unsupervised visits. To the town of south Kirk the let him leave probably on bus. No, he's not allowed..
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"Talking about. Goes on. So I did look at the red dog saloon on. Yeah. That was how I found the documentary was looking for, like reviews and information about the ten reviews on yelp three stars three stars here. These people have. Pictures? It looks like they have a decent burger, and at least one decent rack, and I'm not talking about ribs. It was a decent wreck. So strip joint reason go to burger. Yeah. You can get a burger there. The burger actually looked good. It was piled high mix. Puts his grace, though, the eating of burger a juicy messy sticky burger, and then getting down. Okay. Yeah. No. Do you don't get to touch me with your greasy, hands us and Atkin? I right. Right. There's also a sign, so we're in this tablet -ment, that is always or pimping at. Of. But it did from the reviews I read their beers cold in the view is good was what one of the review said, with good for Oklahoma. At least making news recently because an employee showed up to work and toxic aided and like me today isn't that fucking requirement? I cope, maybe showing of intoxicated, wasn't a problem and from the clippers of the documentary, because one of the strippers in the documentary says she showed up to work, intoxicated. That's also, not new so they let her get up on stage and do her thing. Now, the news story that I read just says that it was her job to dance on stage. It didn't actually say that clothing was probably optional glossed over that. They wanted to have this newspaper on the back page of some so favor, the management allowed her to get up on stage. The problem came when she fell twice not the first time she fell the second time. Time. She felt that was the problem. And she didn't make it look like it was on purpose. So, of course, everybody relates was drunk, and they, she got to distressed when they fired her, so she fell twice, and they fired her fired the stripper for coming to work drunk. Yes. But what's better? So this must be a really nice Lou because it has pool tables to three stores in Oklahoma, call that nice has bulletin evils. I don't know. We need to go cla home. I kind of want to go to this. Triple. I want to I want to go to Oklahoma to go to a strip club, so anyways, so she takes one of the billiard balls the pool walls. She throws it at the manager and her. She hit her one shy hater the face with the beleaguered. Coordination. That's good. So it gets better. So the police are called the police come and get her. She offers the police all her money for them to just take her home. I'll give it all to you just think how much money girls guys three starts. She has least three four bucks a good time for Oklahoma. So the police do not take all her money. So she tries to break out of the police car by banging her head against the window of the cop. Drunk was a nice way of saying, really fucked up on a bunch of shit. Bringing the cop with trying to escape leave that cuffs on. I just got this image in my head. It's awful. But in the end after that didn't work, they finally booked her for it was assault with a dangerous weapon. The billiard ball Davis Webb, that was exactly what the news article said assault with a dangerous weapon. I'd say the manager of the strip club is not thinking ahead. I mean that girl has serious hand Wyckoff nation if you hit you with a billiard ball from across the room loud dry, while drunk or really fucking high take your choice. She has skills and don't make her Daniel stage. Just let her be the table dancer, or give me the lap dance all day long. She was on the table, and she fell over she falling into me. I'm okay. Patron tip. Oh my God. Okay. So you're okay with drunk stripper. Giving you a laptop every man is okay with the drugstore. All right. So are we ready for our main story? All right, fine. So we're going to jump into the story of Tim McLean. I like this whole buckle up jump in. You've got this thing going here like the read railroad. So y say you're kinda fucked. All right. All right. So let's jump up into Canada. There we go. Candida. We'll we're, we're in Arizona. So Canada's way too fucking. Let's go back to about do thirty two thousand eight Jin thirty. That's what my page July. Threes, they go I can't read. The news in July two thousand eight and which was the most boring fucking month of the year ever ain't nothing happened in China. And so I got the script and I got to do a little bit of research, I disagree guess, I always give you the new scripts so you can see what was going on. So yes, we have the winner of the tour to France was some guy named Carlos from Spain. Okay. The forty first comic. Con opens the San Diego. See that what women's? That is interesting, though. That's not interesting. It's a bunch of freaks gang dressed, Comecon. No, no, no, no. It was the day, the earth stood still so Kiana res and Jennifer Connelly were there. Okay. Well, I can handle Jennifer Connelly because her boobs are mazing and max Payne was there, which I never see I've never seen this movie. So I watched a pretty for we do have to watch it, and that brought in Mark Wahlberg meal, kunas and ludicrous. Mila Kunis says the you've got Jennifer Connelly meal. Goodness under one roof. That's newsworthy. No, it's not newsworthy. That's just a thing that happened in San Diego. They probably fucking live in San Diego. It's nothing new for them. I think the live in Los Angeles. It was a little bit of a drive. The helicopter big rough for them. All right. What else happened? So the minister of where the hell miss Adonia is acquitted of all charges from the UN tribunal, accusing him of war crime. So, well, why fucking I dunno some more Macedonia? Gladly callous. All right. Microsoft announces that Bill Gates tire wasn't that big, I suppose it was, but he's rich cares. Okay. Really Richard, no one cares. And most importantly, the credit on discuss happens three nights after a full moon. No, yeah, I'm not looking for these fucking stories. Apparently they haven't right before full moon, right after full moon, and we'll keep looking up because everything happens around a full moon unlock in my fucking door sixteen master, we're gonna leave the bag. Evacuated. All right. So we've got movie, yes, you've got a monster month for movies, though, kind of. Hey, so Hancock with Will Smith. You know, still never seen it. No, I don't think so. But it two hundred twenty seven million dollars. That's a pretty good move. Okay. So journey to the centre earth. With Brendan Fraser seen Seen that. that we have never seen it. Oh, maybe I watched it without EUPOL slept through it. That was when engine one million dollars. Help we to with Ron Perlman seventy I'm starting to feel old. I haven't seen that one either five million dollars. Okay. But you've seen this one dark night with Christian bale yet might hundred thirty three million dollars some serious cash. Oh my gun on the bright side. It's this movie did come out before the story. We're going to discuss what's possible with the person that the person got bird, did get to see at the end of the trilogy. This is the end of a trilogy is the end of the trilogy's. At least his life wasn't wasted. Your life wasn't wasted. Because you got to see the end of that, that trilogy couldn't have missed the end of that trilogy. Okay. So mommy and Meryl Streep haven't seen it don't wanna nightside. They loved it. You should watch with me. Injured and forty four million dollars stepbrothers with will Ferrell hate will fair and don't know, million dollars and Hawaii, eight the guy so much she is so fucking annoying. Yeah. And then X files, I want to believe, with David decoding Gillian Anderson. They wanna do may twenty million. They wanted to believe it could make a whole lot more than that. Now, Joe the other like the closest one is seventy five million dollars. That's only made visit made twenty million dollars of being the Kika ham, a huge X files fan. I saw this movie. Why? Do this. No cracking jokes. Trying to take a drink burbs, spin bourbon, that's not good. All right. So New York Times book report for July two thousand and eight and number one tribute or one tribute one. Number one was the number one book was tribute. So the for number one book was trivia, but in a row Roberts of world. Former child star returns to Virginia to rehabilitate, the farm owned by her grandmother is drinking. Does it do drugs? Why are we rehabilitating a farm and actress who died mysteriously, or grandmother was actress who died of? Oh, don't forget, the comet health. I saw death. I got excited, right. Number two was fearless fourteen by Janet if Thon of it. Yes. The fourteenth fourteenth book in her series that I haven't read one of fourteen book, twenty one or twenty two Stephanie plummet or boyfriend Joe Morelli become involved when his cousins Bank, robbery goes bad. Benko is good. Okay. So number three. I haven't read any of these, I'm starting to feel a little educated yesterday. Number three. The last patriot by Brad, the war, Scott harvest of homeland security super agent. He's not just an agent. He's a super Uber agent adult say Uber. It makes me think of driving. There's a book agent. Can make to write that book age. Uber agent. The thrills and. Squeals as you're driving along the road. Thirty super Uber agents. Ancient secret that will could defeat the Slavic Milton. Oh, driving. This is in two thousand and eight we were worried about Islamic militants. Okay. Number four. The story of edgar's wattle by David Roo. Did you find that would just had crappy names? Leschi Roble, hausky ruble. Let ski rube Leschi. All right. So amused takes refuge with three dogs in Wisconsin. Woods after his father's murder. We'll be can I can guarantee you much better book than it did? True. Number five, one peak by James Lee Burke, Louisiana detective Dave Roche. Oh, Rocio Robichaud can't escape trouble on his Montana vacation. So that's a book. My grandfather told we should read the Robichaud series, okay? That's the bit supposed to be set. New orleans. Yeah. This one is he leaves New Orleans. 'cause apparently he wrote to me book. Okay. Number six sale by James.
"wtf" Discussed on WTF Crime
"You're one your fucking that kids mother stay for the rest of their life. And who on top of that this is nineteen eighty in may? He looked really good trilogy. Oh my God. We're back to the trilogy. He she can no longer see the second movie I mean is so inconsiderate. Oh, I just had a thought. She didn't go on vacation, where she go. Well, we knew that we wouldn't be doing this, so no she didn't go on vacation, because she didn't take any suitcases with her. She put it in case. Let's take a suitcase with her. Oh, we're not getting into that. It's, it's possible the number count. So think about the car was left at the airport. What do you do at an airport you a suitcase? And you go on the plane. So she may have gotten on a plane in a suitcase. I take two suitcases. Yes. We all we don't all know. I know that when you pack for an overnight trip you take suitcases. Now. How did you do that? 'cause anyone's case for everything I'm taking with me once case for everything I'm going to. More sense, but you suck but I like to shove my wall and knows you like the shop your knows all about me. All right. So back to the story. So we've got the car, it's left immaculately clean keys, left underneath the mat. And then at that point, the trail goes completely cold, and she never touched your Bank account. Correct. So the story had it was money in our count, and that never got touched ever signing. She didn't by plane ticket. She bite suitcase especially about groceries. She did buy groceries. But but or when you bought it. Don't you think it would be helpful if they released some of this information this many years after the pact personal see the benefit of holding onto information this many years after the fact I think it's stupid. I think it hurts the families because they want as much details as a maid details can get. And if they're not getting it at this point, the families are actually hiring private investigators and stuff to try and look into it and private investigator can't get that information either. Right. Didn't get a little more systems from the cops than the average Joe. But no most of the time that record information still sealed. Okay. So. Oh you're kidding. So rumor has it that a number years later. The X bet has been. You have did alling the babysitter. So, yes. A couple years later, there's a few rumors out there that one story said that he married the babysitter. Their story said that he's just playing around with the baby sitter, either way that's issues. You can get Dickie. It's gross. Okay. I get it as gross. I'm questioning your word itchy fucking the source. Iki. Oh, okay. If he's like moist. And what was he other words? Asi. So, yeah, so he in the babysitter playing around years later. But this is years later. We don't know that has anything to do with, it might have something to do with it. I mean, we could investigate was babysitter Schnee issues in arrears of babysitter owed some or a lot of babysitting money. I mean that's like that's like all the gods money. I mean, you're gonna be fucked. You're kidding. You're saying that babysitters going to kneecap you for their money no semi because there's won't disappear your ass for their money. All right. But then the babysitter consoles the husband after the fact. Well she's a very considerate babysitter. Or he's working off the money that she owes them. Heals? Her river sexism. Why is a man have to one for Noor? Okay. The babysit never this point the babysitter is with the husband, though. Yes. And we don't know I'm like, are they still together? Okay. Out there in that. But we don't know what happened to add. Because she's completely disappeared in. There's no trace over whatsoever. Nothing is knows that's the last time anybody ever hears from her. At all, what the fuck mother's day, right? Oh, god. We're you. I felt bad for this kid. We're supposed to advocate. It's, it's really shitty and it's really shitty for the family. Don't get your on, but it's to just disappear thousand women that go disappeared at this pier every year. This the people disappeared here. But for this to go on this, long known for mation. I mean it's just really weird that the car was found super clean. It's really weird that she felt you being followed. It's really weird that choose cannot mother's day. I mean, it's a weird day to be kidnapped not necessarily a good. They didn't kidnapped. That's still weird eighty kidnapped Father's Day. That could be a benefit kidnapped on Father's Day. It would be the best fathers. They give to you for. As long as you come back if you days later, because you don't want to be without me. What was it? Twenty two years, twenty one years. Oh, that's we? All right. So. I so I think at this point, that's the end of the all the notes have here for me. There's nothing really nothing else to be sad. I mean fortunately and disappeared and to never heard from again. And there is no leaves the Georgia Bureau investigation has a website up there. You can look up her name, but there's nothing on her. She just has disappeared as gone. The strangest part of this whole story, even when they look at it is the car, they don't understand why the car was white clean. Why the key was left underneath the doormat and other car was clean to. There's no fingerprints, I guess that points to the fact that they're really there's somebody else involved in this didn't want to be identified. So think about that, for second this person white, the car, clean really playing in the detail my car, but. He went to car clean. It doesn't that's not to implement impulsive act. This is something that was done by somebody who's done this, before you, if you're doing an impulsive, act and kidnapping somebody, you're not going to be there, all white the car. What do you do with this person that you've -ducted while you're cleaning this car? Oh, that doesn't sound good. Oh. You can assume either a they're already dead during conscious. But chances are if she was adopted, and if disappeared the way with trace, and if it was non voluntary you'd have to assume that she was disposed or killed in a different location and the car was simply dropped off. But the car being left at the airport, and he's clean is really, really weird. So I'm that. And either the doctor had somewhere to go. Or they have another person there to pick them up because they left the car at the airport. How do they get away from the airport airport transportation hope no matter what you're talking about? Airplanes. Taxis buses all of that one St. through network. So they could have left the car at the long term parking short term parking, we don't know. That's right. It was the short. Okay. So they could left the car at the short term parking they could have gotten into taxiing gone on their way and they wouldn't have looked weird at all right? And thousands of people come come and go for air comedy cars, get abandoned at parking airports. I would guess, good place at delta car, general, won't because if you leave it in long term parking, nobody's even gonna think about the fact that it's there. This one was left in short term parking, which is probably why the police found it so quickly. It was probably the only reason they found it is because it was in short term parking. But if you think about any car left and long term parking by personal know many cops that that diligent drive up and down through. If there's gonna do it, will they wouldn't have any clue to look at one term. It's like say my car's missing can I don't know where it is you go. Find it. That's me at the grocery store. Nothing drive through every parking lot, every parking garage to try and find a car. It's not what they'll do. It's true, but they were looking for, and the missing persons case was filed immediately. They were looking for her, and that's why they found the car so quick. Well, I, I feel bad for the kid, I feel bad for the family. I mean, there's the, the fact that the husbands with the babysitter. It's so gross. I mean that's I get it things happen. Years, go on. But. The babysitter dude. Stock. She's probably of age now. Oh, you had the hots for the babysitter when she has a babysitter. No. Do you do mobile sitters in my head are eighteen six in your head? So in your head the babysitters eighteen I'm we never had any babysitters. You would've not let me hire babysitter. You would have insisted on a Helga or something, a men because you tried to hire stripper strippers are babysitters, too. But she paid that one too. Probably. All right. So we've come full circle with this back around his son funny, but these stories are going to be a little sad at the end. So. I really you didn't write me and I'll tro exit. How do we didn't? I was going to do originally and now you're doing it. So I think you should come up with something on the fly on the fly insa show. All right. Well, let's do this. I want to thank everybody for listening. Anybody who is listening? Please stick with us. I'm sure this is going to get a lot easier. And better as we move forward is their way to put any information on. If somebody has any information about an lucky Lincoln podcast. Oh. If you look up her name on the Georgia Bureau investigations, you can find it formation about including the formation on disappearance, who to contact you knew something. So there is a way you can do that way. All right. So if for one reason, or another, you have any information about Helen, I'm Morgan Georgia beer of investigations. All right. So I wanna thank everybody for listening do us a favor until you friends and have a good night or morning or day or..
"wtf" Discussed on WTF Crime
"Twenty years without me. What do you think? I don't know fifteen years currently with me, you don't want to twenty two year old twenty two year break definitely wanna break, but I don't know, twenty two year break, and I don't know. I don't want twenty year break in a building with a bunch of men. Okay. That's true and US president Ronald Reagan rules out military Invention venture. in the Iran Iraq word you heard it right back in nineteen Eighty-four. We were still discussing that fucking region, and Iraq, Iran. Okay. But we start discussing it a lot more after Reagan. Yes. But it's still keeps going on at never fucking ends. Well, okay. So there's that, oh, this is my favorite part. Okay. So this story happened two nights before a full. Yeah. So any story we give you we're going to give you the moon cycle of the story. They went my papers making air the Joe. All right. So is this two nights before a moment? So basically, we want to know that Lynn recycle for every story at a Termine, if really crazy is related to the moon cycles, which personally, I think it is. So here's my question. Can we get state funding for that, while they're funding biogra-, and finding.
The WTF Movies of 2019 So Far
"I'm Shawn fantasy an animated, and this is the big picture a conversation show about movies, I guess because movies are still happening in the shadow of game of thrones were having kind of a weird conversation this week, Amanda, and I are going to be talking about what I thought was going to be the best movies of the year so far, but as we went down the list, and we thought about what we've seen thus far. And what we wanted to see we realized that this has been kind of an odd year for movies. So we asked you guys on Twitter. What you wanted to hear talk about you gave us a lot of responses. Some of those films are brilliant. We've talked about some of them on previous episodes ashes purest white, for example, or or transit or us. We spent a lotta time on us shot. We spend a lot of time a long shot Apollo eleven. These are all fascinating brilliant, beautifully crafted movies. We'll talk a little bit about them here. And there as we're going through this. But Amanda, I think it's probably better if we talk about movies that confounded us confused us excited us and ultimately left us. Just wanting to talk. Yes. So here we are to talk. I'm gonna I was ultimately inspired by seeing dragged across concrete. Have you seen that movie? I have not because I think everyone in my life has encouraged me not to I don't think you need to see it. It's Dorothy by minimum as Craig Zoeller. It was there was some notoriety around it because Ahlers movies have a particular political bent, kind of free speech, a finding that some have perceived as very conservative. It's a movie that stars Mel Gibson in Vince Vaughn as to police officers who have been suspended and then spend their free time trying to stop a Bank robbery. Boy, it's larded with a lot of intellectual and political complications. It's not really worth unpacking here. You know, there's been some really good writing about it on the ring dot com. I would encourage you check that out Chris Ryan and Adam name and had a conversation about it on the watch a couple of months ago. And I think that was part of the reason that they spend an hour talking about it. And at the end, we're like we cannot endorse this, but also here all our thoughts about it. Yes. I walked away feeling the same way though. Less interested like less excited by what it did. But it does feel like an onramp into this conversation because there's a lot of cool stuff in it. It's very well made Zoeller is obviously an artistic person I do not agree with many of his ideas about humanity. And it left me feeling like I had both wasted my time and saw something unique. And I think that that's definitely a theme perhaps a segue to the movie serenity. Wow. Yes. So this was maybe this was among the most requested in the call for submission. I think it was the number one request. Why do you think that that was to be set up serenity in any way? Oh, gosh. I guess we how do we train serenity? Let stars Matthew mcconaughey and Anne Hathaway to bona fide movie stars which is of note and it begins as a kinda Morrish or Neo Noir ish situation on an island, and Matthew mcconaughey has a white whale of his own called tuna. And he also has. Some demons and an ex wife who needs some help. Then that's in Hatheway, that's pretty much it. He's a fisherman. He is he's got an habit pursuit of Justice the tuna that you're ferring to and he's got a first mate enjoyment, Han Soo and Hathaway plays that ex wife and he's got a kid. We keep hearing about that we see and his ex wife's got a husband played by Jason Clark. And this movie is hysterical. And I don't mean, it's funny. I mean, it is literally operating in hysterics the whole movie is the most pitched up over the top preposterously plotted movie of seen in a long time when it came out mile Surrey wrote on the ringer about all of it's absurd. What the fuck nece, and I didn't read that piece at the time because I didn't want to spoil for me. And it took me a couple of months to get around to this. And usually when someone says, you gotta see this movie. It is effing insane. I go quickly before whatever reason I didn't get to it. I don't think you to either. No, no. I watched it at home. Which we'll come back to. So Stephen Knight Ronin directed this movie. Stephen night is best known. I think for creating peaky blinders which is a show on Netflix. And he's written a handful of movies here and there, and he's thought to be a very well respected writer director in Hollywood. I I'm I'm just baffled by this movie. I don't understand what he was going for. I mean, let's just say that we're we have to spoil the talk about this movie. So if you haven't seen serenity, and you wanna see serenity, I guess I can sort of recommend it as an ultimate Curio in American movie going, but it's pretty bad rate. It's not I all of the hubbub. I thought this was a good what the fuck movie, and it does not really deliver. It's more just kind of like how did this happen? And how did this many people make it this far, and sink that this all came together? So now, we're going to we're going to spoil the reveal spoil away. It's video game. It's a video video game. And they carry the son who is referenced throughout the movie, and then like all shown like eighteen times throughout the movie is programming. This whole world. And everyone else is fiction of his imagination. And he's doing it to like connect with his fictional dad or something or for a father figure and to avenge his real life stepdad, which we should talk about the problematic aspects of that. But anyway to your point of what this was trying to do. I thought it was like matrix gone. Extremely wrong. Right. I thought that it was trying to engage with the idea of. You know, the video games, and the captured that they have on culture right now and imagination and that idea of the simulation, and what's real. And what's not and revenge and the game if occasion of life, I think that that is my most generous reading of what is going on here. I do not think it delivers on any of it. And I do find that kind of video game to real life violence aspect a little troubling. So I will say as a twelve year old computer geniuses evocation of what adult conflict is a what an adult's life is like an adult who lives on an island called Plymouth island, which is somehow tropical. I'm not sure if there is a tropical island called island. It actually seemed on point because when you're thirteen you don't really understand what it's like to be an human adult, and what it's like to have problems in demons. You know, there's a lot of complicated ideas in the movie math mcconaghy's. Character is a war veteran and Hathaway's. Character is a survivor of domestic abuse. Yes. There are some some really weighty females here. And by the same token, the like, I said the movies just kind of hysterical. The kid the actors are going so over the top in every scene and Hathaway, I think is more or less playing Barbara Stanwick kind of like forties. Fifties era kinda bombshell Dame who's trying to draw a somewhat innocent man into an awful plot. Sort of like the postman always rings twice, you know, meth mcconaghy's kind of the John Garfield going. But they're so pitched up and it's also happening on a boat, which is kind of a ridiculous setting. That's that. I I was just just really confused by how actively bad it was. And I know that seems like a simple criticism. But even if it was a commentary on the way that thirteen year old sees adults. I still thought it would something was missing. Does that does that make sense? Yeah. I will also say I I watched it at home as did you and it really suffered from that. And I would like to talk more about the context in which we receive all of these movies because I think it is increasingly important, but for this one you you really had to pay attention because it it was making logical jumps and giving pieces of so-called information that you were you saw the you're solving mystery. Yes. And I I suppose in a way you were more kind of on a on a video game quest, which as I I'm told requires a lot of focus, which is not what I give to movies. So I would I would. Honestly, look away for ten seconds. And then five new characters would be screaming about something that was like oh shit while I messed up miss something. And I had to rewind. And then it's not like the ten seconds that I missed provided any information or insight. It was just kind of jumping around. So I I actually experienced the real gaps between the ideas it like literally because I thought that I kept missing something. And then it just was never really there. It's funny. United spend a lot of time on this show talking about the movies. They don't make any more. They don't make built dramas. They don't make thrillers. They don't make rom coms. They don't, you know, all of these categories were always talking about lamenting, oh Hollywood is lost its way. And it's all big ten actions that piece movies. This is the kind of movie that we're saying they don't make any more movie stars leaning into a big showy part. It's high concept. It's not based on any IP. And yet
Marc Maron Interviews Anjelica Huston
"I see you're doing a lot of voice work. That's nice. And that's a nice job. It is. It's a lovely John. Yeah. You get to kind of straggle in there. Like, nothing you've done a lot of the Tinkerbell. What what what franchises ask the voice of Queen? Karen disney. You are you are her. Right. And so do you are you gonna do any other movies coming up? Hopefully, I. Nothing. I'm too sure. About yet. I've been offered some weird stuff weird. Does he it's either? Like, I don't know at the my offers are so diverse. Yeah. It's either would you like to do this movie in Puerto Rico for no money, you won't have a trailer. But it's a great part or it's John wake. I don't know if I'm waiting somewhere in between those movies. Do you like to do those? I did a movie last year called trouble with the writer of a smash which which was a series. I did for a couple of years in New York few years ago, Theresa Reback, and yeah, I I did it because I believe in Theresa's work. And and and it was nice, and I was central to the movie, and I worked my azoff. But yeah, I did it without a trailer. I'm by trailer. I mean, like motorhome the I get it. I I I. I've been acting not that long in and the last I did days work on some movie, and they gave me like I think an eighth of a trailer. Well, yeah, that's like the triple banger some hideous thing. There was a partition, and I get here the other actor you hear them here the flush of their lavatory ah. It's I know it's humiliating. It's almost a little better not to have anything because then you go. I'm I'm over here. Gun. They sent me. They sent me back to the city in an Uber. Exactly. All right. This is this is the movie business city yourself lucky. That's how things are these days. So if you wanna do the thing, then you know, you have to go along with that. Yeah. I think you have to be game here. And then, you know, hope that something comes along that pays the rent it sorta, but it's sort of interesting now that like I imagine that you to as well like e- when you decide to do some movies, you realize like this might never be seen by anybody. Some you pray. We'll never be seen by any. Absolutely. Oh god. I won't go into them. You might she might someone might hear. Do you know some pretty some doozy's? Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, not really through any fault of my own. We all have to pay the taxman. Sure. I mean, I'm looking at the breakdown. I guess there's a few. I haven't heard of. But a lot of them are most of these are good movies. If people saw that one with you did with Sean Penn. That's that's a heavy movie. Oh, yeah. That's that's actually beautiful movie the crossing guard, and we, but so that was that one of those things where sort of you and Jack were union. Yeah. We hadn't seen each other for quite a long, right? When we made that movie. And I think we carried a lot of the the baggage from sure from our relationship. I don't want to call it just baggage. But the the history, All right? right and ship. You guys knew each other a long time. And now is it just sort of like, you're just pals? Yeah. You kind of live through it. Right. Yeah. It's nice. All right. Everything that seems so important. Yes. Kind of fades a little bit. I think we'll we won the war together. Right. It was great talking to you me too. I had such a good time. Thanks for doing. Thanks for having me.
Chicago Police "Livid" After All Charges Dropped Against Jussie Smollett
"In the reason why it's tricky in horrifying, you know, environmentally that if they're deregulating at just sort of breakneck speed, a not only for capitalistic intent, but also for Armageddon intent that there is this strange marriage, you know, demonic marriage and dove tailing of, you know, late stage capitalism and evangelical Christian eschaton prophecy. And I I guess to capitalists are hedging their bets or they don't give a fuck, but but they're on board. So this weird unification of like radical evangelical end time prophecy baiters and just sort of like, let's make the world free for any kind of business. No matter what had fucking does to the environment. And then we'll fix it. When the time comes maybe don't worry about that. Now, that's sort of nihilistic. And I imagine that the core of a lot of people that may not be religious. Who are you know? Fuck you Trump's to best, you know, fuck regulation. Fuck unions. Fuck the environment. Fuck the new green deal that they're that's the third arm of this momentum. Is that you have, you know, untethered deregulated capitalists, and you have just complete fucking nihilists who don't give a fuck and just want to see it all burn for no reason other than that. And then you have a fairly organized and driven contingent of of Christians who are like, yeah, we'd like it to end for very specific reasons because we've done all we can hear and I'm on one of the good guys. And I'm ready for heaven. Fuck this noise. So that was sort of it. And I think that's a way to sort of frame, the this sort of obsession with right wing Zionism in Israel is that, you know, Pompeo a, yeah, he's he's he's on Jesus. And you know, the the reason in in that framework that Israel is so important is that they've got to get that landing strip cleared. They got it. You know, there's a Temple Mount there's a the dome of the rock is built on it. The temple must be rebuilt in order for Jesus to come back. I believe this is this is the way it goes. I don't have it sitting in front of me. But either way Israel is important to the evangi right because it's got to be stable and good for the landing. The problem is is obviously most rational people are upset about the nihilists frightened for the environment. When it comes to the capitalist and completely terrified because of the religious fanatics. I just wanted to pay a little lip service to the religious fanatics to the prophecy. Fulfillment policy and the evangelical wing of the Trump administration just saying Hello put that in your head roll it around. It's all connected. Okay. Sweet. So listen Phoebe Robinson is she's got a podcast called so many
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"Y you know and i are you going to have your on tv show i'm going to be rich no not anymore still have to go out you ask me in minneapolis and do a weekend uh but on that but i am on executives over tv show yeah i know is no actually no but you should plug your the mc's comedy special goes he didn't get one earlier all you'll have a commie i have many of them you of another what what i found what must have you feel about this moment where like i did the comedy stars would netflixing was good i was glad that i got the opportunity sure yeah but then you hear about like you know sign fokker's rock and louis this is like the ah they just gave jerry seinfeld half a billion dollars thank god because we need who was learning it's not i'm not even jealous but it's sort of like give me like a maybe maybe like five percent yeah yeah i'm not complaining but if you're throwing money away yeah exactly i'll take a little no i was a you know i they were it was one of those things where i was going to tapered and then i was gonna do it with the company that i did my last russia with and then there were the dates were confused and then there were like well we can only do it on this date and i was getting ready to go into production on season two of the show and i you know you can feel the material right inning and reaching pugh tressens sure and you feel like dying yeah exactly and i was i was looking at some nick i was looking at a new products that list as they go i really wanted to get it down ago and i have a really great agent at william morris them silvio lund who's really a terrific guy and he goes let's just do novel and he called up this record company in damn nailed it and and get it in and i do find the audio lives longer than the video so people listened comedy on the radio they listen to comedy on their phone i it's rare that they will sit down and watch a special again that's true that's true i l walsh asif yeah yeah exactly but all listen to especially again all this shit you always in the comedy records i've heard before i listen to because because now uh you know you have that done than you're getting ready to go back on the road and yet you've got to frantically get new shit guinness shit yeah i mean i i'm not i don't believe it has to be one hundred percent new but it should be you really not believe that or you just tell you i really i know i really do but uh i'm i'm much lower than the percentage that it should be i think people want to hear one or two hundred families that you know like i i dunno i got the idaho 'cause i think you and are similar in that in that whoever's judging that whoever saying i this year from the record whoever saying that usually we make them up and you out now there are no there are a couple of those is ideal hit that twenty percent of the suv his new wave that why do we listen to that guy because he's the guy that hates us as much as we do he sees this is already just the way we are with a little disappointed with this was never the almost you'll has got it but not quite right but i i you know i probably saw george karlin i don't know a dozen times my life and i would always love it when there was a oh well he's going to do baseball and football great disease and you go this is great listen to this i sure i i listen i like hearing beats like he because this museum it is a form of music digitally form of music when you know like i hear who i can was due over and over again if it comes up in 'cause i got the shuffle gone on ma if schimmel comes up and mike because like the ear was such a master of this very specific type of timing kind of like morose jewish he you know who it's it's the disease descended joan roma jackie veronica yep that good good poll well he told me although yeah and you know who else was heavily influenced by jackie vernon let me guess who stephen wright sure that makes a lot of ads yeah i love jackie vern yeah jackie o'brien was amazing scr i saw he was the guy i saw my parents took museum when i was like eleven oh my god where that's what change to me because i saw him on tv do the slide show and then he came to albuquerque and i saw it in the paper at out in albuquerque was a lounge in the hilton hotel phantom my parents took me that's fist of it and that was what i was like that's when i knew it whenever you but what if he opened bush and soon turkomans should they would have been fine but what we were close enough just to see like you know he's a hold and he's like you saw all of it is in this and that it was not afraid i was like this is still good i have this conversation with somebody is really really interesting is talking about how much i love rickles yeah and i was talking to a a younger com we'll they're all younger and owes quoting some rousseau stuff and this goes help us us laura his own because he so unworkable because it has nothing to do with that yes all music i love the ud in the rhythm of the music and i remember seeing him sometimes he said things that didn't even make sense but because no i will give you a beautiful example i was with your friend and mine rob cohen at the desert in and they had just had a giant renovation of the desert in and it was sweltering in the show room when he goes out a forty milliondollar renovation they get a great airconditioning system two facts on the roof of the peace looseleaf paper glenn doesn't mean a gut dim thing he could have said tortoises zeroed onesyllable i tell you and could as a bear as you know i'm not laughing because i am straight and therefore i'm exerting my heterosexual privilege via in a derogatory way no eases thought of that of that part of that of that and that's what i have yet but the weird thing is we give you isn't something like schimmel who is usually the victim of his own joke yes in his life had the life of fucking job yeah and then the political whatever's politically incorrect about it itself offering a software threat and then i don't like he is the victim of every jew every joke has a victim and symbols act it was him yet in something somehow that can elevate ivan i agree i agree yeah i don't know if i have these discussions but like i for some reason i'm just able the separate i i don't know that you know revisionism is necessary just because times change in terms of what you you you feel personally attached to her what you like i don't i don't odds visa will difficult but but i can says it already owned for me i can still you know i don't do we delete all that stuff do we delete are emotional connection to right i i don't see how that's possible tackle and it's like when we damn my have hitler's paintings i have to separate you have that book on i have the coffee table excuse called raspberry lauda angles lot of hard angles not a lot of people but a lot of beautiful buildings oh i used to joke about that it's like well you know hitler was vegetarian but but yeah there's an i think i also in a lot of it is just being the soldier nostalgia for being too beating a kid a like watching rickles on the dean martin roast and every but it's a totally different school of show business than new and i grew up with golfway told me the story that when he worked with reckles rickles would would just roast him all day uh and then afterwards a poolside now you set a small lead money the eu is a very carrying well that lowvolume that's where my grandmother said she go see him in vegas and he has yet on everybody but he too she's she put it like this he apologizes very nicely renault but the only thing with bob did he couldn't understand is that that he wore jeans onstage right easily bob you can't you have to get the dress nice addressed and that's the general that's the thing that broke for that generation like these kids they they would do about those things that was karlin the kid he's talking gripe but what i'm saying is in that era in for us it's i think it's like we understand that he's seeking safe haggar he gets it whatever and it doesn't have any leasehold me we gotta shoulder that and if it's like a you can attack me for y'all still respecting somebody who is not of david his original like and that's in and that's and that's a that's a valid point that you do have to update in and he didn't he didn't need he i was watching him i went down it was yuri lewis rabbit telling when he died oh yeah and i was watching the jerry lewis rose from 1968 rickles was on it with the two things that but that it will rise rose that's not even the right the idea the one the first who the killer who's just like jerry i say this from the bottom of my heart jerry you're a jew his justly all right yeah but the other almost didn't he goes you know jerry's a clown and there are a lot of grey clowns emmett kelly that's about i will not give up the other baru hui was rose the is when the martin ones and j jim stewart was on the day is and he goes a jimmy i spoke to the family you're doing fine hosts one there was one where he was on it was his last appearance he was his last carson appearance because johnny was retiring on and then he may johnny lab zohar johnny got into a coughing fit careful john every time you cough lentils at home highfiving the life little good will and i love one and it's a real shit have you seen that one where they built him a club filled with just celebrities the martin there's a dean martin rose who was might have been the d martin show where they wanted to recreate alive rickles show i have that 'cause i signed up for the guide them the other demar the i never saw coming i had no idea there were so many but there was one that came it might have been the d martin show but they set up a club they mean on a sound stage and had people like pat boone in the audience all the celebrities kartal malta bar like he was probably nineteen seventy the early 70s mid70s yeah and and rickles just went up and did his club in insulted ever yeah it was great and as you sweating mid70s when the american flag had wide lapels warren ugly i go it's an interesting question though about because i had this moment where you know being a comic as long as we have you know you and i are old guys already yeah and and by the way just two i am fully aware before anybody jumps down my throat about don rickles and whatever i know i'm i'm i'm done i'm in i'm with this is not what is contemporary this is my view of it pete townsend was talking about the john entwistle used a bitch about wrap that he didn't get it yeah and he said it's not our job to get it it's our job to get out of the way and and i am aware of that yeah i get it i get it yeah well no i mean i you know i can it's becomes difficult with depending on what the transgression is here to stay supportive you'll have to be supporters somebody you can condemn somebody and you can you think somebody's awful but still say that second record though that sure you know and then you somebody said a really smart the genome our solar arguello should young new comic really really funny really funny and really martin somebody was bashing some on woke person new than apologize for it and she said you know you have to let people make their mistakes and grow in public he kinda led have to you have to let people grow catches white dot terrorise them into some sort of cultural siberia yeah the you know the my last special the one before this one um i had the whole thing at the end of boat the our word uh and how it's now relegated wizards see word and i tried to do on those bits ya ya and i wouldn't in i did i mean the bit was a boat the strictly the nomenclature of equating that word with the n word in this year oh it was actually addressing the that that whole thing it wasn't about like i don't use it that way no because then i did use it uh you know i know is that i would never do this and then i did i cheated all over the place and i you know i i said it and i said the n word in the sewer day and i say them now relish at home time mutter myself but whatever i would i would nothing happened but i wouldn't have done i wouldn't do it today i got i did a bit about it about defending you know the use of it in you know in a sense of like in a ended this style gic way um y yo how you know what i mean i grew up with that yeah right but then i guy the guy that igf someone i think it was an email the just said we you know i'm the parent and in and that was a you know i like i had a couple of swipes but in eventually i got a handle on it i i did it and then i met john mcginley lose of very on the forefront of of of all those issues and it becomes real via an and it's not about first amendment that's about though these people have feelings and their young their lives and you're okay i guess that's the thing hey how attached are you two that really need it have you read them of using that word it's not he's no one's censoring anybody yeah it's like you're hurting people's feelings and it's already hard for them yeah exactly brilliant yes i guess they have a rough enough time any and you can and that is truly you can say that will riggles talking about fragile new have enough to have enough they have enough trouble i my my feelings about that are like you say whatever you want the shoulder the uganda water take the take the burn yeah tell uber then handle it what the what's this new were the new season standard against evil what's it did you finish it's all done joey finished it premiers november first on ifc house a different uh it takes the story it takes us roy for the premise of the story is the whole idea of the shows was quite simple i love horror movies are my football so i just thought what if i did a horror movie but put a character in the middle of it that didn't belong here and it was basically what if my dad was an harm of has he wouldn't give it doesn't know just know does he does no he doesn't give fuck right and and we used to make that joke if you remember the indicating kong he's on the building in the planes are flying area my brothers and i used to joke did of our dad was in one of those planes that he would fly out of formation check the scoring the baseball game comeback shoot a little bit more go back and i just thought it would be interesting if like what if instead of buffy the vampire slayer it was just an old irish guy that didn't give a shit and and that was the the premise and i didn't i my mother is still alive but his wife who would have been my mother dies before the show starts and because i needed them to have a giant vulnerability or is just hassle oca them what john mcginley did with that was created this amazingly nuanced character is a good actor huh israel has been around for a long time ago he's not fuck in a row it doesn't seem age much either doesn't know he's he's good lives at the gym i mean is this arms are and i say this knowing he's listening to it his arms are terrifying um uh no easing these in crazy like an old irish boxer from like a poster for the he's like hundreds who was in the issue williams was like five over visas and wall street is a platoon he was in any given sunday but he's built like an old irish bar and how he's all upper body and but he created the he gave this character so much more than than i had give it it on the page and and i have to also give jet at foreign ego amazing kudos for the way she balances him the ballast that she and as such a strong actress the because john is done so much of this work that for the second season i had to right up to him so i developed a whole arc of a story line where there is a time travel element where he's going to try to go back and save his wife's life oh wow and as as always happens makes things much worse oh good and that's the arc this as the art the season and what's the name of the record that see the digital this is what did them i call it a record 'cause i don't know what else to call it how it looks it in a my doubt because my downloads sounds vaguely filthy ah mister funny men and this is what the kids on her the account how many you've done how many record seventy special uh i have the worst i proudly have the worst album titles fun houses fine yeah but it's an they keep up album and his version is albums much better uh let me put my thoughts in you i know what's wrong which was okay this is mr funding in screwed what i mean the bigger problem is really the art work generally yes like looking at what you can almost any comedy record in you know somebody who's like move was i think and yeah homeless every comedy record bullets every comedian gets to be a rockstar for that that one day we you get to look figure your album cover via i did all right like you know in retrospect i don't have any stupid once i ask you know the last don't try to be funny on your color exactly don't try to be funny on your cover that's it that's it iin the war here quad split headshot via the worst people from boston we both novaya the what were their different panels viking different hats and i can't say it on the air but i'll tell you what were probably sure have on those i remember seeing it becomes clear i like how there were different has i know they can play different jobs it would be a fireman and a chef who was a doubt i will good well it's good talk in the arabian sea all dana cooled the great dana gould so lizzy goodman who i'm going to be talking to next in just a second um she was very good friends remarks pits the lay mark spitz they david years ago and mark spitz was a a great writer in his own right of music writer and wrote a greg memoir and he was on the show and because he passed not too long ago that you can still listen to episode in the in the free feed if you'd like it was a great episode very personal very engaged and we missile marqui we miss him you know i think i'm a good cook when i make food at home but there's nothing worse than not having the right amount of an ingredient or 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brainer for thirty bucks off your first week of hellofresh visit hellofresh dot com and enter the promo code wtf that's how of fresh dot com promo code wtf so lizzy goodman the writer is my guest and i met her when i met her with mark once but she put me in her book can we talked about it when she was writing then she sent me the galley and i didn't quite get to it then she sent me the real book and honestly i just skimmed it looked at my part but i have very little recollection i talk to her about this but whatever was happening in rock and roll from two thousand one to two thousand eleven i gotta tell you i think i miss most of it i don't know what i was doing i don't know where i was i mean the last time i knew i was really blocked in to root to rock and roll happening in real time was probably in the late eighties and then side some i just some i went away i don't know where i went but i wasn't i wasn't locked in i'll mocked back in but this the two thousand one to two thousand eleven i was just a struggling comic trying to figure it out i do i get sober like i guess was right after i got silver that might add something to do with it but i just wasn't keyed in to the new york music scene i was just keyed into the comedy scene there was some crossover we we hammered out lizzy and i hammered out and i talk a newer the book is called meet me in the bathroom rebirth rock and roll in new york city 2000 a one to two thousand eleven which apparently are my lost years but that's not true i did i did radio did air america away way i got divorced a guy they'll get married got married and divorced in those years that would have something to do with it so i was listening to music but it was like twelve to fifteen songs that i put on a fucking mix after my wife left me that letter of that a lot of those twelve to fifteen sok unita heartbreak mix i got one how how long you've in la i have a real problem here really i just i've been here for three days where he frazzled you not a dry did you drive i know you drive here i'm from new mexico i know how to write weaker of your friends with i keep i always forget that i wanted to go i'm going you i i think that's a great idea it's great there had to how long did you stay in new mexico till like 14 seconds after i graduated from high school which highschool albuquerque academy i don't i didn't tell me all this now probably not i don't know you went to the academy here how do you i'm two thirty seven twenty five i don't know i just had a birthday and i have been i realize that i've been telling people my old age for at least the last couple of weeks because i forgot the elderly seven i was born in 1980 what was your old age thirty six turns out are you've and you have a goto no no no i just i have this joke with my friend rob sheffield that might ages is 26 forever i have not really evolved pass that i may i'm moving i think i might move i have to me become hear a lot more now what's happened and so i'm thinking don't use drop that i will vote will that but at one of my biggest or i've been thinking about where i to live show alana's neon it seems to be happening fedronic yeah in what way but i will tell you but just my biggest concern is that i'm gonna miss winter and one of my friends his out mean half my friends that i hear one of my friends his lobbying been lobbying me for an ally move for a long time was just suggested to me recently and i never thought of this like you go to new mexico for winter go have winter new mexico's eventually just go have a mild winter well i mean it's cold it's not new york coal i live in upstate new yorkright now oh my god where high falls new york it's what are you doing up there i was finishing a book this book yeah that embassies different one who one of the one of avoiding talking about on your wedding efficient probably hate it which is fine this not hate is not the word disagree with no italian a disagreement thing i missed it of course i miss this if the it's called earth and rock and roll in new york city two thousand one or two thousand eleven i know none of the bans in the really would you like some help well that's why we're going to do but not down yeah yeah so yeah i like the idea spending the casual winter's in new mexico where he here in the higher or some parka whitesnow nodded loom area the luminary of i've in kerala's is awesome when you get your health through in the lights now no known does the candles anymore you can't go said i know they are good they one hundred percent you it's the real thing all right some people still do the rules of very traditional place kerala's new mexico we what we think about living here i'm not admitting that i'm thinking about overweight now i don't lie echo part will people i i don't like them i don't wanna be near them like i don't wherever the williamsburg of la is i don't want any williamsburg valet thank god is not because here it's like bloctobloc you know williamsburg maybe i don't know it's different i mean i want to live by the beach but every night if that he can't live vitamese because yield you know fall off well why show business quarter year because of the book a real yeah marks like oh that didn't even occur to me what an awful idea i have i have to tell you were important which can into serbia but do you know some people like it so is known and i i know it's people love it and i understand that not being yeah i'm very sure there's no i know you and i'm totally teasing you i this book is about a period where you could actually get most of the people to play themselves as their younger selves and it'd be pretty quiet pretty close he added in various no it's going to be there like documentary and and narrative at like fictional adaptation series ideas around that's great i'm excited about it i mean i want to do more of that stuff anyway and always have or have in the last few years and so it's like fund to think about how to make the i mean people i've just felt really gratified by the kinds of ideas that have been a you know because as skeptical that the whole hollywood here at it so far than the people that i think we're going to be working with are awesome well we're did you how'd you start out where'd you end up you went to the academy graduate you got brothers and sisters yeah i gotta younger brother take that's a good name yeah he's get he lives in nigeria really he's a foreign service officer he's a diplomat o good for him the state department and cut them loose yes no um now not yet that's good maybe maybe nigeria this sort of like what i stand ninety he got there he just got there and it's funny we're talking about luminaries he's going to have lumina or something he's having he's getting married in december in england here on dan and he's going to have all this new mexican stuff we've been talking a lot about the new bringing the new mexico to the new mexico christmas vibe to london thoughts nice yeah so what would you go to college after you can ran away to fill it i mean i wanted to be on the rules like right away it was all about new york as obsessed with new york and with the idea of lake eastern urban magic get the eu's when he grow up in a smart household in new mexico you i i want to go to where really happens i like all this cowboy cowboy intellectual shit i that's exactly how i felt i mean it is disturbing to be talking to you about this there there's basically no one who gets out of new mexico so those of us who do all have the same kind of like course spirit about that if you go back they go back oh hi tonnes tons yeah i mean you're going back now i've been thinking about it yeah it's drawing i think about it to the way on wife yeah my heejoo like i don't i like i i don't i'm done with new york i'm almost down with la whereas from argun go this is how i feel you say i'm too young to feel it this is literally the conversation i've been having while i'm here i'm like i will always feel like i live in new york that i don't need to live there anymore and so therefore where do i feel good well that's only corral us exact cheese like me literally only corral starting to feel that it's the only play me for me is not quite corral but i always romanticise prowess but i'm a couple of miles away how you i think would i very close to corral but a all right so dan study what english and classics and your girl at the plan was only good was to be a writer now what a crazy idea what idiot would do that you can't be a writer what was the point of in new york and what just like hang out no the plan was to idea you know i was eighteen i didn't have i had a i had a homing instinct not a plan like i'm gonna come to college because you have to go to college like i'll go as close to new york as they can go and i was really good student and i cared about being gets you now i love school and great china japan but no the plan what it what happened was and this is the right call like i now understand this in a way that i can articulate and didn't at the time that i advocate for it it's like i had to put myself near stuff that would so i could be in a position to have what should happen next revealed to me brian what i mean later that's what new york is yet it's a no to be you know for me and and for others that that's kind of what the books it out here at sense of i don't know why i'm going here i'm just going here because it seems something's telling me to do that and i can't tell you why and i may not even know right away or for years but it's where my next myself is going to emerge on the oddly e know it's because the place it new york holds in the cultural unconscious yes for years since the 70s yeah specially if you're groovy artistic you know literary it it's like it it's grooms large yeah it means something to mean something it's an idea and hand but there but still to this day there's nothing like it i mean you you know you can i can't live anywhere unlike well but do you did you find always at like i was just in new york and for the first time in my life i went over to jazz at lincoln center as fiftythreeyearold and it's have always been there and i was there for for fifteen years on and off and i did nothing like oh yeah hey like all this stuff veiled me like people you go the museum of modern art i did once twice here but i am now like i feel like i'm ready to do that stuff in its fortunate because now i understand new york pretty fucking while i can get around and ought to do what other so if i go in for three days on my show again see let's do it but that's okay that is exactly why my i feel like my current relationship with new york is among the best that i've had which is like when you leave you are able to to be a kind of the it's almost like the first fifteen years are investing in understanding the place enough that you can become a named formed tourist when you go there so now i do that too like i go in from upstate you know every week or so every ten days and i do three days of city staff all my friends i gutted restaurants i do all these things that i had no energy to do because those so relentlessly overstimulated by the time i laughed at that i was like i can't even like i just want to hide and so now there's this the slate has been cleared and it's like new york it's fun again but that i don't ever feel when i was nineteen and started coming to the city from philly all the time i felt like mm i needed it too like kind of worked on me in order to help me figure out how to become myself and now i know how to be myself how did you go there were year ranked ninety eight i moved to philadelphia and i was in school my dad is a new yorker semi dagger opens in status in town via and my grandparents unawares there for a while a who's going to get that apartment come on you tell me about the survivors adel got your grandparents of art okay it's on has pink walls the who is getting that next ruth good men lives there she she's you know she's she's it's her place man here i mean no one's it's a rental it still like i know rentcontrolled renzo deeply rent controlled rental yeah your eyes are like glinting the cia is the new yorker area edge rooms juve everyday that have what's the kitchen like hallander yeah it's the last of the rent control listen everything you're thinking is true it's your fantasy come true it's like the per it's an it's walker they've this would be good always is when you've when i was there you like the idea of control was i i'd rent stabilize but that doesn't mean something i and stabilise to that that's like they're like it's not as brutal so really when you move to new york in earnest this is when this book starts yeah i mean i started coming to the exactly like i started coming to the city from philly to see show i love the story is it's in the introduction to the book it's basically like i i moved to new york the first summer that idea college says after freshman year i i moved to the city i lived in my grandparents apartment i worked at murray yeah and i got a job in a restaurant you worked at sesame street i had an internship at sesame productions or whatever that it was the production company that pretty sesame street that will you write in turn shed you're gone for showbusiness i was not go i was like this is the justification for me being here that's the one the ethics as all i i didn't pick it it was like available and we really i was like i need to go hang out in new york city trash camera oscar with no no they never let me near it wasn't a coup it was like i don't even remember what i did i wasn't near actual sesame street it was the production cut it was it you know is a midtown office building that was set not no would you how could you work for sesame street nakos he were seriously streets production company produces a lot of shows sesame street the crown jewel i was a lowly turn we love the you're acting like this is my choice yet one day they rolled in and they were like do you want to go to the sesame street sat and i was like nath no that's not out having no anxieties me i was i was i you didn't meet ernie organiser continued i wanted to meet rock voice mark i tend not grow her no grown all right grover and the guy with nights in serious who you're like all right yeah he taught me how to ride the subway right are you there you're working says mystery not going to not doing all of the things that i know i've disappointed you deeply and just i got a job in a restaurant 'cause i needed to make money because i wasn't in school and i had to lake support you know i had free rant that i had to lake right pete or whatever you run by close i guess whatever i cared about at that time records and so i got this job at this i got this job training to work at this restaurant crossstrait from grand central station said they were opening any day now and they are hiring up staff i got this job and we end of course it took much longer for them to open and they had anticipated citybased they had hired this staff of kids board hot city kids who went there every day for like four hours and got paid this lowly amount of money and did things like practiced waiting tables and learned the wine list and stuff like that and my coworker was nickel anc who was the guitar since strokes and he was in this band like hit with his friends called the strokes of now the portal opened and you're well no i mean no it was years that was nineteen that was the summer of ninety nine and it was i mean it was a couple of years before like albert the other guitarist had not joined the band yet they weren't they it was my friend nix like ban nick i was nick was like halfheartedly in college and they were just city kids and i was i mean the portal that opened that summer was not rock and roll it was new york like oh nicholas cool in in that he grew up in the city and understood how to sort of like wander wale and how to get into bars and how did you set just it was sort is it was what like i had been learning i it with training wheels in philadelphia that as a new mexico kid like how do you how do you orient yourself in urban life and let these places kind of lake you know wash over you and expose you two things you're supposed to be exposed to how to get the rhythm down and that like nick and i would just hang out after after pretending to wait tables and you know lake wander round office parks and smoke weed in office park teller fina behind off sparked pillars and sort of like just wander around midtown it wasn't and then sometimes i would go downtown to lake st mark's and sneak into bars and do stuff like that beazley it was like that was what was pal 99 summer here that must that summer was those were my marriage was falling apart that was the other big thing that is happening for every avatars you knew marc maertens mary and who's out more a yeah and then he got thrown out of that house in the other find to subway weighed down us instead it was way chiller than what you are dealing with try and dukan redo one man shows that was that are that is i was the best theater oh my god the west bath yeah that became significant for me later really yeah because all the artists where had their studios in there and still do it's still let me extra to yes rate on the west that the west village became later after i finally moved to the city in two thousand two became like my spot because i don't like coolness like i don't like i didn't like i do not want to be on the larry cider off that city will whites places for me when i when i moved there i guess was eighty nine the first time and then i went back in nine the four remember you saying that yeah but but you know and i talk a little bit in the book about the you know what happened then but it really wasn't the only put i was just a little weird historical artifact you put that this from the guys from the generation before radio exxon giuliani for two minutes well i needed that i've might do i thought i was well represented good you were i agree um so this is all just before nine eleven yeah and the you've you found your place on the west side where it's not hip with artists that are well no i mean i went back to philly for like that so what i'm saying is that the that's why it's this is an important about the book the s not bands like i wanted to be a lawyer or something i thought it was gonna be a lawyer i was a school kid but i was pulled towards this sense of magic and misery about new york city that is the idea that we are already just talking about and he hadn't yeah i loved writing but i didn't work from my school newspaper i didn't it wasn't like what what it was was it was like i'm i i i was being drawn to some expression of culture that was related to my generation that i that had not happened yet and i did not know that that's what i was being drawn to you that i during the next few years in the part the four nine eleven were all these bans interpol yesterday as strokes and in you know white stripes and other place like around the world there all the stories that converged in the book all of those people were feeling similar things like assent this basically the same age as i was and feeling a kind of like i wanna make something that i don't entirely know what it is and like the world is not really receptive for this kind of this kind of vibe it's not supposed to be about urban call right now it's not supposed to be about notions of near and what was it supposed to be about in a music industry is supposed to be about dance music erica in you know i i mean in england it definitely was about dance music or was about like postscript popstar th i mean and in my business it was like i mean in the writing what became my business it was like it wasn't that exciting to imagine yourself as a rock journalists because there wasn't a lot of cool rocked the end so that's right it was sort of submerged in jam jammed asked you for a little while they're right i didn't think oh i'm going to be a music journalists i thought there's something about the way it feels to wander around manhattan at four p m on a really hot day in the summer where everyone rich has left the at they're making me feel like i'm getting somewhere and i can't really tell you why and so i went back to college and i studied and an ice kept in touch with neck and a couple of other people that i owe you and he would come and play shows and then i would see in philly and i will go see him and i had friends in philadelphia who are starting to lake want to go to shows so it was like it was a thing to do that had enough in it for years it was a thing to do that had nothing to do with aspiration of any kind and that was really important and it was also like it was like traditional rocking aware coming back it was not necessarily art rock punk rock was sort of finished in a way and and i guess wakeham sort of 'cause like some of the bands in the book i was given like for some reason at that time when i was there in late 90s in then like i left by two thousand two yeah but i was given cds and stuff for iced up for some reason i have the jonathan fireeaters he shot up i do that's awesome yeah they were so amazing i listen to it and i was into it but like what you're with that have been have 90s yes okay so okay so that was that times out yeah yeah they were the yeah they were round is great ho right i have my buddy john daniel was involved with music so i was sort of up to speed on something yeah okay will and 90s wealth that's all right i mean but like like jazz it only o good if you were there i mean that theoretically lay the thing about looking at the book and reading through some of it is that like when i read please kill me that was the those were before me and i was when that was what everybody was going to new york to find was that that's what this is about no i get that with moscow eyes were going to find that for sure and you kind of right about that yes like that's we're all looking for that thing that was like just it was just the the remnants of it and the and the people that were involved with that you'll first wave of whatever made new york cool were just kinda droopy greyhaired dudes walk around in their weather payments that don't fit any more with somebody going like that guy used to be something yeah if that if they are even living there anymore but i i guess i just think that that's the continuum i mean it's not like every winning please kelme weren't weren't polling on i see the continuum of that notion of new york identity as much much 70s as going ponca much further i mean i think much scher further back that than just whole idea it's it's it's i mean this is later but it's fifty yeah and it's jazz it's it's fucking ellis island man it's like come to it's it's in the american identity of new york gonna come here and you're going to reinvent yourself and the culture all potency of that has is almost as old as you know as the city in some way and so but specifically in the world of the arts yes you know what what you know what came out of new york and and what sort of defined it is you had a wealthy people who were willing to kick in to make she had happened yes right yeah and a lot away sure to reject the of a lot of the factors but then i mean you know that for us because this is my taste in i i i think yours too like the punk the 70s punt seen in cb jesus just like i meaning please county was my total bible i'm obsessed with everybody and napa i love that music that's my stuff i came to that late you're now the earth your specialty is more material for the business card wait to the partly to the party on air safety and wrong kinda leadership skills doesn't look good for any of us march mirror merit love martin on but you know i mean obviously there's also the whole greenwich village like i mean dylan for most people dillon is the touchstone for this and it's so the idea that new york is this place that's constantly polling on a previous constantly kind of coopting and borrowing its own past self via to reinvent for a new group of young people essentially the a new for them version of the same thing how are they related to turn all right they can still find the space there if they can still kinda save their which is the question now but like for my for this book for young in the bathroom like i don't see it as a see it as just this sort of the the the chapter in the cannon at that new york cultural story it's just rose right into the bookshelf right there you know after police kelme and after madonna and light up before whatever comes next but it's just it's a stop it's a stop on the larger train i think that and what comes next is going to be a a prominent either chinese or russian trend do you have that i'm good authority seems like it that's the vets me speculating that summer noncash catastrophic start i have is not catastrophic at all as i say that so so when now way what starts to drive when did you meet the the the way great mark spitz i met the late great mark spitz pretty early i i assume he he served as some sort of guide to whatever the fuck happened to you while yeah i think he'd really like you putting it that way well what mark would say is that i thought he tommy everything i know of on so he would want me to say it that way i tell you this bright i've kid from new mexico through philly who's looking for a rock fantasy and that dini and blames outta some yes he's like i can help you out seles ruin your life and i was like great and say it's the glare sorry yeah he talks in his memoir about how i was wearing flipflops for spammy and he's like they're not shoes zia like he was very my new mexico vibe was pretty united wearing makeup i didn't like i was still kind of like fresh scrubbed girl that point and i think mark with space mark dea like you know bad bad asrat girls with lake peroxide blond hair and he was sort of like you are entirely to clean for me basically and i was like okay but you like me no no as a recipe for disaster who's gonna win well that's where it's later and he would say things to me like yes chased me you know and i was like hot can you do the thing amassing unity or what he writing for spin when you met him yes so the way i'm marklevinshow sara louissant who is also a great character in the book and one of my best friends was my roommate in new york when i first moved there so i graduated from college and by that time it was clear that like the city's music scene was happening and i felt i was like dare to it i was inspired by all of i was inspired i was inspired by and have sudden a there was something to write about nato i then was like i wanna be a writer who writes about this but i i taught secondgrade frontiers first 'cause like i can't be a writer thought that's nice i taught at an allboys private school on the upper east side uh glazer's no really has a double life for awhile we were real like fullon teacher major oh yeah misguided men secondgrade whether in how what how did that and why did that and it a two year and it's like your estate teacher and then you either maybe you kind of the carrying on of that would have been to go get a degree in education and like stay in school and would stop you from doing that oh you know i'm are on that cya now now he loved at he he would talk about how wake up in the middle of the night and i would go 'cause i had i talked to my sleep and here go boys get in line and you'd be like jesus who is this girl and is scary she's like yeah so now okay so now you're you're getting you're you're getting involved with the rock senior roommate is what is she says sarah was marks like little protege at spin so i met mark before i graduated from college actually at coachella the one of the first coach as i went out with sarah to see if we could live together we went to this rocked festival together to lake try it on here and on she introduced me to mark who is i mean it's it's in the book their their meeting is pretty awesome like he was he didn't understand instant messenger and because and he's mark air sarah i was like this sort of protec savvy little jewish girl in new jersey who is who liked his writing it's like high and i'm also girl he had like why is this window coming up and they can eventually she wore him down in the house and so she introduced me to him and we had you know a serious series of battles for about a year and a half that then got together and yeah i mean mark was my tour guide through he was writing for span he was a hot shit writer writing cover stories about all these bans and how'd you manage not to get all fucked up i don't know my i honestly i i think it's genetic i i really do i just i don't know may just have the thing i'd die went out and drank every night like everybody else and reich you know there is all kinds of drugs around in yet but i just didn't care that much about it for you but it's not good for me that makes it sound like something i get credit for and it's not like i get credit every not be compelled by that like the like to just a drink in smokes from we'd and just enjoy the music you don't have to go you know you i mean i like you don't have to divert alliance but it's it's it makes it sound like it's a matter of sort of will and it's not it that's why are saying connecticut's like i don't have i'm compulsive in other ways right now i get it i get it that's why i'm saying you're lucky unlucky yeah so that's how okay unlucky so let's talk about you know the the bands that define this thing and the ark of this book because yeah like i just i i think i got my first walkman album like six months ago okay i'm larry liking it so okay i think i got that guy so record i thought that was get those good singer yeah so the strokes you knew that you saw them become what they want us in then and then like the the white trips our guests were coming in from detroit occasional yeah but i didn't the white strips were not like sort of first generation in new york of that were like any who has that were the strokes interpol yay as an lcd soundsystem feel like the whole lcd soundsystem thing like people are like you got your view murphy guy got your mike i don't know what he did so i had to get quite catch up with dfa miyazu jonathan the guy over what is the aga he sent me all this shit yeah i like that the prince worn dance called record yes good first record i love okay maharidge starting went ahead to go find me that record like i said you have one of them around their way it not be you know we have one ring laying around here we were using as a as a as a like a a map for when you eat your time castle your way into this that's you will love james and y'all that's i listen to a no it's great it's great i watch the movie and i i actually narrated a short documentary five lcd thousands of heavier like who the fuck is this no anyway script evaluated out but like i know he something because he mental i too a lot of people like i can see how they met something that people can also see how they kind of like you know kind of like well there's a there's a gap pure that was once occupied by the talking heads yeah that we should climb in do totally the talking heads said that i mean that's what i got no problem that kinds of sending okay i am not jane so you're not to defend now i understand how music work tell me more i understand you tell me my understand that there is now out of new she it yes and that you just keep inventing the old shit i think i mean yeah all right sure i think the thing that all the judge the the period that the book covered with the book is about is not music it's about all the things we i talked at it's about it's about new york it's the central character it's about what it feels like for this group of people at that period of time under to do a thing that is eternal as we just described which is to be young and to feel on scene and to get together with certain friends serendipitous lay that you meet who unlock something in u n two in the shadow of lake at theoretical anonymity make something beautiful that makes you feel alive i mean it's pure that's like that's art that's young people that's new york city that's rock and roll that the but it's important for the book that the context is also from my generation are these people that we're talking about it's happening in in coincidence with all these other major global events like napster we just 2000 and nine eleven which is one hundred percent you know a huge part of this story obviously and it's about and then the reinvention of brooklyn and the commodification of brooklyn and the exporting of that via the internet the newlyborn internet to the world as this sort of notion of how to live like a lifestyle brand to be earth to by going to interview james he said i was trying to dip into that like the brooklyn idea in williamsburg and all this stuff in kenneth ease my way in he goes oh yeah that's all our fault like cool thanks scott and it's that's what so this story is about that but it's about that through the lens of paul banks and carreno and yes you know later jack white or the kingsley on guys or whatever and then off to england and off to the killers in vegas and around the world but that record we should nikola pile of what you did have it'll be about three hours them sti no than i i know i the jonathan firefighter that's a hall in allied it yeah that's a you know you get points for that that's a big crowd point the area the i like one thousand out is great i thought it was pretty good but those bans i mean to answer your questions such as it is it's like there's no like yeah there's nothing new under the sun and this is a retaliating of a generational story there will be i i believe that people make things new i i'm not one of those people that yadav a problem with appropriation i don't have a problem with with the of the evolution of music and he because like if you really look at rockets the people that really make something completely new or generally misunderstood and you may be years later people like i think i get it and somewhere they're like nato the other but there's a core group of fans that are sort of like worthy the only one said get it yet that bullshit any basically the story of the book too i mean if this is mark says this in the book i mean he's one of the greatest characters in it where he's basically like look i was 28 and writing for spain or whatever less was thirty something his thirty already and writing for span and like mark who had an encyclopedia harry say that pete accent encyclopedic thank you very much sandy pratt thing music and film knowledge and all that stuff of was sitting there in new york city loving york city's sort of but just board and that the thing that this that this that there's the sort of beginning of the book that everyone had in common energized boredom energy everyone was bored james murphy was bored he did not know carreno carreno was bored she did not know julian julian was bored gillian didn't know paul paul uh the interpol paul was bored and it was like in their own independent corners of this town at that period of time they all did something about that board and then mark spitz or sara or any of the other sort of non musicians but journalists future bloggers a and our people like all the different sort of um i don't know contestants in this in this like road show here all had in common that sense of what we have here right now is really not enough and we need to like build something cooler and no one else is doing it so we're gonna do it so when spits heard like i mean he says this hilariously in the book where he's just like you know when i heard the white straits it took me a minute to figure out that i was being saved because it was my job to write about mark mcgrath every day and like there it was boring it oh yeah loaded orient and that's the story idea like i get it i get it it's like well boredom mikey to classify all those artis as board i understand that but i think that if you in the history of of what happened with punk rock in the sort of like you know kind of strange angry apathetic posturing that happened is that what it comes down to though anybody who surfaces with any consistency may be board but their workers oh right well that oh totally i mean and that's also new york city like everyone in that town has to labour via the i got a want it yeah and you've got to keep pushing two two to sort of break away from the pack of garbage because in any city especially that size you know for every one may be original band there's going to be like twenty guys just tooling through rehash especially in an era where i mean it's hard to in it's hard to overstate this and it is crazy now but i mean it really seems crazy now that like being in a rock band i loved the guys and dumped than fired or talk about this and later the walkman they talk about how like telling your friends that you were in a band was like now i take us that late yeah it was like really didn't elettronica music kills janjaweed could do we have to go through this aid rallies yes on thursday is at sad than you know like you're gonna make us do that you'll biased drinks rate i mean it was like the least possible cool thing to do and and it was like lame and and kind of an opposition on your friends to ask them to conceive lesser so this whole the it's hysterical because relatively quickly people would be dressing across the country and around the world like they had just been thrift in on the lowery side but not when these bans formed but that's interesting because that whole thing you know that thrifty thing has reinvented itself with every generation of people yeah it's like the now like their thrift in 1980's clothing and i'm like no i know i now i'm feeling that to it's weird like his when i was in high school we were thrift in shark skin yeah not a better yeah yeah and then i had ended at kinda the whole for you know that rockabilly kind of boos like whatever the fuck it was going after the suits in any time we speak to someone about this like can we address this with the culture in general that we just nominate certain erez as as as take as as out of the loop of of going to be rediscovered some ambitious ivan around anymore like fortunately for now everything is made so badly can i know that will never happen you'll never never be thrifty 2017 they should is not going to hold up maybe we've inadvertently solve the problem rallying stealing the fascists that were previously thrift it yeah this is not even making shit that will hold up to be so maybe we just need a generation a cycle through that in like twenty years people will actually have to create new stuff because it will literally going at all disintegrate and have to create outfits said will withstand the heat of there i'm sorry i've taken me right out of there i did it i'm sorry for him you're not enclosed outfits with of'short new mexico's supposed to fair relatively well i mean waters going to be a problem but waters going to be a problem but we have the mountains we aquifers dory right on an akko yeah we give a lot of as i understand it no no eight i think we give a lot of water to california so mother fugger's he had one of the california's thirsty mansour okay so like i know owner free burger this one again with a list of names like oh i show you read all your quotes first come on of course yes okay then you looked at the list through an area in and i kinda poked around it like you know the chapter headings ps but a vote like i don't know grizzly bear the national i came much really lay to and i understand why they're good but i i don't know that i go back to the records up much tv on the radio maize i listen to their first and second record i'm like holy shit this is the media their incredible yet the a as the first couple of records i listened to her i had him the hives i had that record i remember liking so what is your problem nothing we're just get vampire weaken don't think i've ever heard him all right we'll interpol i think i got a recent record with like their back in a mike i missed it the first time pretty good we've routines just gotta whoever teens rokaya feeling about pretty good yeah kind of punky right yeah yeah i hope we will come on something and you'll be like you really have to go and do that is that what you're looking for ya well i buy a records i'm i'm mike i mean i mean a renaissance had music appreciation i'll send you a list i need i don't know like i have your book i know yet we'll you do though actually 'cause you can't start gone mouldy reaches yeah amazing did you play who's got the crowd i don't have it all right we'll play who's got the crap by the multi pages is just one song well that song in particular is your gateway drug for them dave across comedian i know him with his worse are you hold steady i like that guy greg gregory great right yeah he's a good talkers if thinker is good the killers i like that okay kingsley on first who records and crime what happened well y but okay that that's another alternate title for this book sure is where's the staying power while they're all still making albums and touring and dura al like literally all of these people yeah so like you okay let's talk about them what happened what did have well it's up first talk about like the whole that you know a nine eleven left in the world in that like in terms of near all over that chapter see that's another place right you would you but compounding the board white whatever that boredom was was that horrendous existential to terror sadness grieving like i think i talked to spits about that a bit did he ah but a lot of this came out of that well it didn't come out of that it riot it was positioned as gross that word is under the circumstances to be heard in a different way and buy more people as a result of it so lake nino none of these important records the first as record the first strokes record the first interpol record early dfa staff none of that had been was written post nine a lead and it was not a response to that ren before but it was about you know it was about all these themes that we are just talking about yet culture considered obsolete like sadness and anxiety and loud guitars as the solution to that as an expression of that is a response to being alive right it was like oh that's old news and then you know the towers came down and new york city is under attack and america is under attack and it makes you kind of return to the the sort of lake core aesthetics of rebellion and that's rock and roll so what are you want to hear you on here jack fucking white playing guitar you wanna hear the urgency of the first strokes record he wanna you want a kind of a manic toughness the that and i think so these bans who it's not like if nine eleven hadn't happened the strokes wouldn't have broken an englanda had already broken in england and kind of ignited this industrywide like doubletake towards new york before nine eleven happened there album was supposed to come out like the week after nine eleven the first one in the states so it was already kicking off but what nine eleven did is a couple of things i thank and this is argued in the book it it it animated it it increase the number of people who were immediately feeling the need for that kind of sound and it also turned the world's attention to new york city culturally in a way that it had not been it had not had the attention of of sort of like global cool hounds in that way in sense i dunno i also like it they were it was also the guy seventy hanshin for perseverance yes i mean ranked sympathy yeah you know you're bruce springsteen how to go to werleigh hurst tracy and got them back call tied to hit it and yeah and i think i mean all these bans talk about touring in the wake of that and being it off doing comedy in the wake of sure i and the but being cast is kind of emissaries for new york and again for this idea of what new york is about that the entire world on some level was either either loving your heating at that point in new ways it was it was interesting time because if you were new yorker and you did live there yeah you're like we're we're gonna fight yes totally and we're thinking about that now and and it and the other thing that it did i think for the purposes if this seen such as it is and tune day from tv on the radio talks about this in the book i think he when he when he said this to me it really kind of it was a turning point behind her standing as he talks about how the szekely he thinks nine eleven put a kind of pause button on the jansher vacation race there has already happening i mean the the sort of post the giuliani into bloomberg cleaning up of everything sure that would eventually result in the new york the slick anodyne near erni lives there no one does it's it's saudi billionaire's who have apartments for their homes yet they're summer homes that they like might go to it's me the ranch russian it's all yeah and it is it's well chinese i don't know what an honor i it's it's just feel like you've done it feels like it doesn't have a a cultural identity has architectural and the identity right now is money money has a bleaching a fact eventually on culture i think in right now new york feels to me like burnt out literate like whited out like nine i'm not saying that race i'll have her hands out in the way that it was burnt out was bankrupt brought down in the way back right that that like acid has been porn on it and it's it's blake bleached out like i don't know i mean i keep seeing you know i don't know what causes this but when a create is her your it has deadened yeah by capitalism yet money on and by people that don't that day they don't like it will be interesting to do really explore what is rooting there you know in the sense that you know it is completely antithetical that to what it used to be when it was i think the big difference was there was a time were always money there but the people that worked there could live this and now that central and what's funny and not ha ha funny but of course like the it's all connected to this era because that's way jane saying it's our fault is funny the in an again brooklyn brooklyn because it's all those people the new york became the kind of place where you would invest in that kind of apartment because of all of the culture that that re in live in debt and made it interesting and sort of buzz he and brand rival in that way and now all these people who bought their on some level whether they know it or not as a result of this this latest ingretation of that new york thing i live in a place where none of those people can be but this is also like in a way so boring because it's like no shit that's called the cycle of art madda called lake art versus commerce 101 i mean it's going to just play its that and held out over how they all moved out of the city like the that generation of their artist once they got money they all live here they orly or here or they live in new jersey or connecticut or are you not a lot of them keep sort of like i love this i understand this instinct i feel this instinct they keep places in new york like a little apartment on near the barrier rodal whatever lay in just to kind of be like no no i still guide of me i still have a place wrestle like this so this the the ark of this book front yo two thousand eleven sort of the ends in brooklyn beat becoming the like the the the wealth center of hipsters totally and the but also just that that did it ever have any integrity other than for sure but i also just think it's yes it did i'll answer that but also that the idea that that would have one of the things that's hard to see from now because it's so obvious that that is what took place is how unlikely that seemed that that would at the time if you had been sitting there in two thousand two and and sort of prognosticating that in twenty in ten years or whatever like williamsburg a place you could not get cabs to take you was going to be the default locus of cool for the globe for but it's weird because there was some would have been laughed out of that conversation what's really like i lived in the story i had an apartment in the story from 95 five hill like two thousand and two whenever they might sub wetter was just informed by the new known of the building that he now add the lease uh quick note with note under the door there were people like louis had a place in williamsburg there were people moving into long island city yeah and likes her was sort of happening but that was because you could get space fits dole rahab winning is that it's just like everyone move to williamsburg because it was cheap brand because in this to return to it ten days saying i mean it was like you could get free he indeed siddig met each other because they lived in the same converted loft and they were passing each other's rooms enough and seeing that the same shit basically was on the floor at each other's rooms and it was sort of like i guess we should probably talk you know you've got a same weird stuff in there and like loss and in that's not like it's so easy to be like wow that must have been so cool and it's like it's it's only romantic later at the time it's like i need to live somewhere and and and be able to paint place with that right but that's that's the story of the amine ripe but that context or that that framework of life has repeated itself yes generations generation totally though the yeah the law thathat's another title that we here but the thing about nine eleven that tunisia was saying that's important is that whole justification we're talking about in the money in the bleaching out or however you want a phrase it these are they his theory and i by this now is that that was coming much sooner and nine eleven pause debt because there was a sense i mean people thought no one would travel there anymore no one wanted to get on planes it was like leaving for a second it was like is new york's economy going to die this the is this really like are things you can get cheap they were rally are things are things going to you know plummet here is it gonna be russ 70s new york thing again because no one will tourism will dinro wanna live here and all that stuff is they're going to be because it was it was terrifying and it was like you know every plane that flew overhead it was i mean people there were a couple of years where and so what that created for the purposes of this book is this weird a period of uncertainty that was really a gift to these bans because there was a couple of years and this is my my hay day really of lake going out in seeing shows during that time it was two thousand to two thousand three maybe into two thousand four but fair li where it was like it was just wild everyone was like are we gonna die but hey let's party en route druggie and it got dirty and it wasn't that expensive yet rent wasn't going up really of sort of just like the whole the whole apparatus was trying to figure out how this was going to shake out and it was like kohl let's play the you know you should read boca for answer some of those questions behind the scenes what did you ever read that book securing the city on my god who wrote i like i like i recommend this book to so many people i did you secretly right it no oh could cover ominous yes it's a bow it looks like the beginning of every law and order old school lunch or episode is by christopher dickey who i believe is james dickey's son in the i still see him as a you you shows up on shows on cnn and stuff but it's really about how how new york had to create its own count yes i should read that it is to the injury yes 'cause it was like we had we're our own city and we ourselves yeah because federal government and the cia and the fbi were not talking real yeah there was in the federal government was not really stepping up so these guys know what was going yeah and it was it was with giuliani still who was like we've got to make our own counterterrorism force and we've got to have international alley yet ray kelly yeah food and this guy cohen associated irate ocala read this like and then i'll be like i should have talked to him for the buck this is my life like i wake up still at night is damage extradition don't even choke of add that why never writing another oral history ever again or only organized oh it made me move state to a cabin in the woods by myself because they had an emotional breakdown like it's so hard that organization is really a nightmare well you did it and people like it yeah and you know it seems to be all in their uae dill per is let's check it out they clear talk of what do you want from me i i think it is hilarious eiriksson i let my favorite people around the book art like that one of my favorite pieces written about the book was by my friend dan aasi who hates who does not like any of this music basically he's in the book talking about conner over since he loves turnovers but he basically doesn't he's a music nerd anna anna a rock critic and this it he's just like all his hand suck basically i mean not literally but it's not his stuff but the thing is like i have i like i i'm not a connor overspent but i have him in here handsome my best interviews with people who are mike i will that is why and say like i'm at that's basically i think i i enjoy the fact that this isn't your world i think that's more fun lagging learn the creator of service project to talk to someone like that then someone who's like julian casablanca's this my favorite rock star of all time you're like well you're gonna love this yet boy do i have a book free like the this is writing i take this this part of journalism seriously like it's not my job to write a press release for one of these fans its job to convince those who aren't naturally inclined to take this as interesting that there's something there well here's what i have to say i'm happy you kids had your okay are you gonna try to say that that was not condescending he has had a knock out of it is out of all right it's a joke it was it was it was a sarcastic coffin ha ha ha pa let's shift gears demar serious yet um you know i and then the private police state fire juliana of just personal stuff i mean like i i've and talk to you really since markelle passed away a eulogized him on this show thank you for doing and you know because i like the guy and i literally your text to them like would like a week before it happened here do you talk about what happened can you talk about it or not i can totally i talk about i liked talking that i think people are a little afraid understandably to ask me about him because it's france you romantically involved on and off your best friends he was on the up and up again it seemed yes 100 percent it's really tragic i mean the answer to what happened which is what i guess is like not known i suppose i mean i don't really know i don't know anything other than he died and then i i texted you too to say sorry but then i got no information and then you know you just sit there and go igor would have and what that you it's not he's one of those guys ruettgers bound to happen but he didn't seem like it was going to happen that way well a lot of people you feel like it's bound to happen and then it doesn't i mean mark was had a history obviously of drug use and i think most people assume that he died of an overdose and that's not what happens i mean he didn't he we don't know for sure because there was not an autopsy performed huh so there's no leisure a cause of death that attack i mean cause of death unknown as far as i know you ea yes so this is what you're not afraid to talk about we have no information kind of accept i mean they i guess they just think like i so i was here and you know we shared custody of our dogs for six so mark or seven an hour years together in from my 20s and then we broke up like 10 years ago and but we stayed incredibly close friends and he was my creative partner basically like that mark this book would not exist without mark he is the person on the other end of the line consistently throughout frame iin merrier well like naughty i mean sometimes like sometimes is needed grady stuff but more just all writers need like the the i'll people i guess that create the the sort of like hootie who is on the red phone was on it was like i don't know and this isn't working in what do i do and like help and also i just need to that it's like that was the dark we are really really tight creatively and he would do the same we would talk to each other about writing every day and our dogs and so i was out here and he had been in a period of incredibly badge oppression for a couple of years on i mean probably his whole life it had been really bad and um i was helping him in his his family was helping him you know try to get the right mental health care never quite came together for him and eventually and so eventually after a couple of years lake road than the month before he died he was better than i've ever seen and he may have told you that india he was like like running a little bit yeah he was taking better care lindo visit no no one he hadn't dan i mean i think i know that mark lied to me about drugs or the years he wasn't like here's what happened the night that he died he went to a bar on the night that i think he died he went to a bar because he i mean we don't know exactly when he died he went to of our on february second and he had a couple of drinks drink and a half with a friend and at six thirty something like that and he came home and he walked the dogs with this friend and he was inside his house with the chain on the door and the locks on the door and a bowl of pasta on his on his like coffee table they found him and i couldn't hear i didn't hear from him the next day and i was worried and i didn't hear for him the next morning and we he didn't do that with that i mean he the dog think mark loved dogs er that anything in the world and wouldn't fuck around if their howarth and knew i was all the way out in california i mean he was like mortar arctic about the doksan i am pia and that's how they a his eventually i woke up a bunch of people up in his super went into his apartment and he found him just slumped over on his couch with dinner on the table so like as i have never done heroin but my understanding is you get big bell right and also there was no drug paraphernalia in his house and no drugs oregon went yeah i mean it's an aneurysm or a heart attack or or what any he i mean the dogs were fine they were in that house with him for thirty six hours and they were thirsty and in america pasta here at left that here too viking luggage joni it in like pardon me asshole i'm hungry and like their sausage in that layer she's too short can get up to that just short short leg's well you know it's it's it's nice to know that it it probably wasn't some eur grisly relapse no i mean if fit you know i don't know enough about you tell me can you like have secretly donovan of heroin fight hours before and then go home and make dinner and then die from doing that i mean a dozen quite at up but i you know but it seems to me that he put himself and his body through and you not up to him you know you know and if you don't know what you're like i don't know one is less physical was i mean you could only had one he high made him go and get one with wh what was the informality all systems go but you don't i mean this is what the there's i mean i'm going to be dealing with moves it out over that out of my life by not heart stuff that well i mean right like this is if you have a blake blood clot if you've an an aneurysm is undetectable i mean you can't like you can show people and this we don't have any control over any of this in the illusion is that lake via if you take care of yourself and you get physical zinni's sort of like drink your green juice that there is a sense of of control over warding off death in it's just not like that and like mark abuse the shit out of his body but that's also no guarantee that he was going to die in that way and you can take really gets care of yourself and you can get hit by a but i mean you know or diet something undiagnosed it's just what happens and it's horrible it's horrible but the one thing we do know was quick yeah and he was there with the two people in the world that he loved the most which are those two dogs no good swear to god i i'm sorry for your loss and congratulations on the book and it was nice of you to dedicated to him of guel i my friend imran told a a really potentially off color but actually amazing joke about this on this happened because imran loved mark in knew him very well a lesbian he goes so that's what it took to get together because there was dedicated to my parents and they got for this is the only thing mark could have done and i mean you know you knew him quite well and you guys have a shared sense of real black humor and so do i and mark i mean i can hear and sometimes it's being like the biggest promised that book was there is not enough amee nso i had to be something that will yeah you've got to have the dark your mercy you don't you know so the bottom doesn't fall out was nice talkin united sock india that was fun those good those promotional in some ways don't forget if you're in now way you can join me and brendan for our only l a book event and signing this sunday october twenty nine th at seven pm go to live talks la dot org for the tour page of wto of pod dot com i can't play ktar tired and a little depressed boomer lives uh uh uh