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Let It Roll: Robert Johnson Revised - What Have We Learned From Elijah Wald's Escaping The Delta?

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Let It Roll: Robert Johnson Revised - What Have We Learned From Elijah Wald's Escaping The Delta?

"Welcome to let it roll the podcast about how and why popular music happens hosted by Nate Wilcox. Follow the liberal podcast on twitter at let it roll cast and check out our website at let it roll podcast dot com. Let it roll as a pentium podcast and you can listen to all the other great peppy and podcasts at www dot pantheon podcasts dot com. Today, special guest, scholar and musician, your Campbell returns to review the key lessons. We learned from Nate's discussion with Elijah Wald about his book, escaping the Delta Robert Johnson and the invention of the blues. Maiden year evaluate Wald's boldly revisionist. Take on Robert Johnson and debate whether or not walled succeeded in reassessing Johnson from the perspective of his peers and contemporaries, in contrast with the romantic myth of Johnson, long propagated in the folk and rock communities. Popping those ear buds and enjoy. It's time to let it roll. This is your host, nate. Wilcox and we're doing a special. What have we learned episode once again with my friend and colleague Dr Larry! Campbell, Yuri welcome back. Here can't get good so today. We're GONNA. Look back on. Elijah Wald's book escaping the Delta and my interview that we did with him. And we picked us up this book in that episode because. Other than Ed Ward. Who Basically taught me everything I know about analyzing music is a cultural history. Elijah Wald's books, this one and how Beatles destroyed rock and roll, which we'll talk about the next episode of what have we learned? Really expanded my mind because it took. It's a revisionist take on what has been disagree romanticized history of Robert Johnson and the Delta Blues and found walls attempts to reevaluate Johnson. From the perspective of his peers and contemporaries, basically the black African that African American Blues Fan of the Nineteen Thirties and Rather than from the perspective of generally white blues, fans of the nineteen sixties to now so it just totally blew my mind. I tried to capture that to great interview. But the main point that the book put across that Robert, Johnson was just a human being who sang and played beautifully. He wasn't a mythical figure. That probably wasn't related. Devil at the crossroads he wasn't. A country bumpkin he was a sophisticated sharp-dressed cat who travelled widely who listen to all kinds of music, not just what he heard live in the delta, but listen to the radio listener cards and learned so having said all that. How do you think we did did? Did I get that across in the interview with walled? Yeah I think that the book and the interview with Wall you know Really helps a flesh out. You know the the basic ideas that you were just talking about. And really helps to make it clear. that you know the blues artists of the Twenties and early thirties in the early twenties really. Physically, people that they were professionals. That, they were participating in You know the creation of. New Cultural forms new sort of musical expressions. While at the same time. trying to freeze their audiences. Who had know? Fairly sophisticated demand and varying labs. Right, so that the artists themselves as you suggested had to have A. WIDE ranging set of skills they had to have been aware of those sort of traditional musical expressions, and you know like in the case of the blues, things like Hollers and loans, and that sort of thing well also being aware of of popular music. Which, by the nineteen thirties you're talking about. Artists like Duke. Ellington and Louis Armstrong and People that are appearing in films there on the radio, etc.. And so the picture of Blues. As this sort of backwater expression. rural culture. Coming from people who were simply oppressed and trapped, and you know on some level were expected to the ignorance. And poverty stricken just didn't hold you know I mean you couldn't can be successful blues artists if you travel the country and rags. showed up at it. You know very venues unable to relate to. Modernizing audiences. And I think I. Think. The book captures that really well. And I thought your interview with Wall. Made that clear. Cool and one thing that I think that I'm still struggling with and I've read other writers that have responded to wall sort of rejected, but there's. This notion like united about genetics, rock fans who grew up with the whole myth of the Romanticizing at Robert Johnson and the blues, and and a key element of that is treated in a blues, if it some ancient form that goes all the back to Africa that goes back hundreds of years when the best evidence seems to be that elements of the blues like the blue notes, the flattered seven. Thirds. Might have done that might be true of those elements, but the BLUES FORM FORMALIZE W C Handy! That's just not the case that it was a very modern form in one thousand nine hundred dollars I mean it was the hottest newest thing and when it hit records in the twenties by black artists and the key thing appoint walled makes left out of the book. For the interview I didn't get to do. Is that the first people to record blues? Songs were white artists and I think that's pretty important, and those people have been pretty well raised. SORT OF IN A. Kind, of the way, bic spider back with the original Dixieland jazz man have been appalled. Whiteman even been not erase but marginalized of history. And it's kind of Karma. They got overblown in their time, and they got too much in their day. People like Louis Armstrong didn't get enough credit, but since then things have tilted completely, the other way and white artists dabbling in these mediums tend to get completely erased. At least we'd like Marion Harris and. But I think the key thing is that this was this was a new four amendments was very modern music, and even Johnson was kind of a late comer. and was a decade recording almost a full decade after people like Charlie, Patton. He was still. Wrestling with the light, the newest and the latest. That makes you. Know. We made several points I think the Johnson himself I think his his sort of blues. Approach was. Almost anachronistic Acre. It was kind of out of season. Right part of the. Part of his lack of commercial success or widespread notoriety during his time. With the blues wasn't really offended at that point, and and for whatever reason he primarily recorded. Glue saw his. and so you know that. That, that shows you. The Blues was something that was being presented to audiences and developed by artists within. A flow of cultural production that was that was new. Happening was modern To talk about the question of. You know Blues, some sort of survival from Africa. I? Thought it was. It was most interesting when he's talking about W C handy. And I think it was molly rainy I could be wrong. Yeah. I think as more rain each of whom had these stories of their travels as professional. Musicians who come across. You know now forgotten. in in the case of WC Handy never known I mean he tells the story of being at a train station. Meeting this. You know local guitar player who plays in this crazy style. You know though this innovative. You know daring. Approach to the guitar, and he himself at never heard it right, and and and my rainy shears, vocalisations from a woman that playing a that and has to ask what it is in this told that, if the balloon news or whatever. So, you know while it's clear that there are going to be. Different styles and different locales during that time that were kind of separated by physical space and a lack of access to technology, and the during the the the the many years that came before recording, and as a result you might have people that played what they considered to be the police in one place, and then in another place they might use the term to refer to slightly different or even a very different style. It's clear that once you start getting close to the the recording your are. At least it seems close as a result of those two sort of anecdotes, you know the Marei and the W C handy elegance. It seems clear that. The Blues wasn't something that was widely agreed upon. That can be easily. defined. or or easily explained and that it really comes into its own as what we know. Blues to be which is sort of family of approaches primarily propagated by African Americans That happens you know during the era recordings, and and it stems in part it appears from a need to establish John Rotterdam Slap Label. On, A musical approachability can do as this. This new thing that's going to fuel a craze. Right I think that that is that's a profound. Of. That's a profound. Observation about how commerce works and all that kind of thing as well as cultural production. And there are conversations preparing for the show one of the points that you made talk show interested in with sort of what made Robert Johnston so perfect to be mythologised after the fact, talk about that a little bit. Well. Robert Johnson didn't have a lot of recordings I mean Waldo. He provided that list of. Artists from the the late. And Thirties and how many different side they recorded. You know people like bill bill brooms, who recorded hundreds decides right. Jogging has a relatively. Small number of recordings they were popular at that time. And so. You know he was kind of obscure. I mean very skua really until he gets rediscovered in the sixties. In this in in a new context, right like I was saying before he was operating in the in the in in his own timeframe. As somebody WHO's kind of out of step with the Times it was kind of behind the Times even though. He was appreciated by. Some You, know music, lovers, etc, but by the sixties. This kind of explosion of interest in folk music. and which you know, the people who were folks fans had some fairly strong feelings about What was? Acceptable. What was real, you know? They didn't want electric occasion of the instruments in many instances. It's a Robert Johnson as a purveyor of this kind of stripped down. You know what they might have considered to be primitive and therefore authentic blues. He. He he met the needs of those people you know of. The audience is in the sixties in. Other artists weren't likely to to do. He said he was obscure, so they could discover him. He seemed to be having sort of pure history, and he comes with this whole mythology right of. and kind of dark sound, you know the songs about Hell Hounds and so on your soul. Crossroads I mean all this kind of story. And, so he was kind of. Fit You know he was ready to be discovered and ready to be repackaged. Really was kind of like a blank slate. That could be. Fit within the context and within the tastes in the needs of. The the full and real blues type. Audiences of the sixties. Yeah and news news also dead, so unlike his contemporaries of like muddy waters. Halloween, he wasn't out there hustling. Recording Electric, music and everything else, but let's hear. A Song, possibly Apocryphal Robert Johnson Song as far as the myth, this is Rob Johnson Hell Hound on my trail. zone AKI. Down and. That was one of the songs that started all the trouble was Robert. Johnson Hell Hound on my trail so here you have a guy who. Sort of built this mythos around himself with a couple of recordings, although like while points out. If you look at it in the context of Popular Blues, at the time, you had much more popular figure and PD we'd start coming out at the Saint Louis who? Either named himself after a four tale, or created a legend that became a folk tale of PD wheat, Straw the devil son-in-law, and so you know, and that guy had you know a ton of sides, and they're all very amy, and so it's hard for us to go back and evaluate PD. Wheat Straw Fairway and talk about wall quite a bit, but you know if you're young. Brian Jones or somebody like that in England and getting a hold of these books in these records like John. Hammond compiled Columbia King Delta Blues. Volume in volume too early sixties, and to get this guy, you know artifact this record in your hands with along with a book that tells the story of this young man who is a no talent, and he was hanging around with son House, and and trying to follow along and people laugh at him. And then he comes back. You know six months or a year later, and suddenly he can outplay everybody, and so this myth that he sold his soul. The devil really had a power that that. Took on a life of its own in the in the minds of people like the rolling stones and Eric, Clapton and rock fans all around the world, also in any can't discount that that's a real thing. That was a real cultural force, but you know when walled blows the smoke away. It's kind of funny in retrospect and I really wish Robert Johnson had longer. Just to see it you now I mean I would love to know what he made of all this, but well it's it's it's. It's of course utterly speculative. counterfactual and there is no history to support, but it's still fun to think about the idea of probably like Robert Johnson did apparently have this hunger just succeed in this hunger to become an effective entertainer and and had talent. Worked at it well enough to be recognized for his transformation as sort of player in an entertainer and our. It's fun to think about what he would have done it sheet survive. You know where he would have taken. His his his art. You know and in the same way that you have something like muddy waters. Who you know had a wide ranging set of tastes, but he picked up sticks and to went to Chicago. And help blow up the whole new scene. You know, so. It's unfortunate that Johnson died and. In in that sense I guess I mean. His. His legacy is sort of. Fell into the perfect storm. rediscovery stall Jota. That sort of thing, so he's not been forgotten, which is? Definitely not I mean he's. He's outlived everybody one angle. I didn't bring up Walter while this talk about the origin story of Robert Johnson is really close to another figure, a contemporary figure, which is Charlie Parker who infamously you know got a hold of a saxophone, learned a couple of scales on a song or two, and then tried to take the stage with some of the guys who played with Count Basie, and got booted off the stage. Spend you know the next six months feverishly woodshed. Every song in every key comes back a year year and a half later and blows everybody away, and in his case, it wasn't ascribed to the devil. It was ascribed heroin which causes no end of. You know and so it's just funny that people. Have this need to sort of mystified talent and hard work which. You know that's a powerful combination that most of us don't have that kind of talent like Robert Johnson supposedly could hear a song for the first time. Remember it. Play it back and play new cords. He'd never heard before. If he heard the cord once then he could figure it out from memory, and that to me is amazing, but it also takes hard work, but there's three points that you brought out that we're going to try to cover the rest of this conversation. The first one this is the. The things we learned from this conversation with Elijah Wald and that's one how commercial success works the power of the audience, and the vicissitudes of meeting in creating the audience needs and tastes point to as out. Innovation fuels gets Thornton by commercial dynamics and three. How context helps define how the cultural product and the is received in this includes racial dynamics, so let's jump in there and talk about. How does commercial success work because you know Elijah? Wall tells the story in the book kind of his epiphany. Came when he was teaching at Music Class, about Robert Johnson about the Delta Blues and muscle students had heard Robert Johnson, but he didn't start with Robert Johnson because he was teaching historical order, so he starts with people like Skip James Charlie Patton who are Johnson's immediate precursors and Delta Blues and the students are very eager to hear Robert Johnson. They're loving. The Charlie Patton Eleven get James and son House and cannot wait to get to Robert Johnson then they get to Robert Johnson and there's this down because. After hearing! Charlie, patents, Skip James. You know this kid's good, but he's not doing anything new and that kind of blows while Ted Open and helps him understand why Robert. Johnson wasn't popular in his own day and it's interesting. Johnson's kind of A. Secondary Product I mean the recording industry only goes out to rule in America. When Urban America's starts by radios, and so suddenly they say oh. WHOA, there's a bunch of poor white and black folks out in the country, and not just that, but there's also klezmer singers in the cities, and there's all these. Ethnic minorities all over the country that they can still sell records to because these people will have access to radio. The radio's not playing. They're Kinda. Music. And so that's where the Charlie Patton wave of artis gets an Gibson recording studios in sells records. Then there's depression. The record industry dies and ten years later. It's sort of crawling back because juke boxes, and that's where Robert Johnson comes in is like some people thought well. We can probably sell. Some records of some Jukebox is down in the delta. If we get this this country, kid clan, some of this Delta Blues. But It's in a context where people you know. In the Twenties Charlie Patent at all were not the bigs. The bigs in the twenty s were Bessie Smith and Louis Armstrong and Lonnie Johnson APD wheat Straw Tampa Rad Blind Jefferson. And me mentioning Louis Armstrong is Gonna I know people's hackles. Scott raised because we have this artificial bifurcation of jazz and blues and seem as two different things, but the next thing I'm GonNa play is Bessie Smith with Louis Armstrong who also said Jimmie Rodgers. And Bing Crosby Louis Armstrong was all over the place in this. Because, jazz was pop music. It wasn't some sanctified elite art form at this point. One. Also flowing out of a lot of the same sources that was you know powering the various innovations going along. But polluters. and. Let's go ahead and here a little bit Bessie Smith, and then I'll let you finish your point and. this is bessie Smith was Louis Armstrong and they're doing the Saint Louis Blues by WC. Not as Bessie Smith version of. Saint Louis Blues was Louis Armstrong in the horn and now go ahead and. Support your about start. I was just noting that you know the blues. At that time was flowing out of varying sort of musical traditions and musical practices and musical voices, and the jazz was as well, and they often shared connections to those those. Sources of inspiration and so naturally there are some connections between the two especially since. You know the blues. There's a is a sort of tag that gets put on varying styles, etc, and it doesn't really. Necessarily provide In Ironclad. Definition, ironclad boundaries around musical. approaches you know in talking about. You, know what we kind of can glean from. The from escaping the Delta, regarding commercial success or you know how commercial dynamics get applied to. You know cultural product. It's yet. It seemed to me that you know one of the central. Thrust of what? Walden wanted to to bring out was that. The audience is. Is probably the most powerful source. For the development of the product. And the sort of innovation of the product Cetera. Audience has has this connection with? All points of the commercial effort right. I mean you've got money. Being put into producing the product, you have artists that are putting their time and efforts and their knowledge of of varying audiences especially during the time. We're talking about where you know you had lot of traveling. Musicians had to be aware of their varying contact. As they move from one time at the next, the next and and The the money ends up. You know somehow learning about the varying tastes, etc.. And that so that that's something that. Ties in with the mythology right like the audience of the sixties. Have this need for a particular type of artist are particular story, or if not a need for a taste or an appetite for it. And you know that helps to drive. Robert Johnson's rediscovery, and and and his explosive popularity and influence over that. You know era whereas when he gets into the classroom where the students there from a they're learning about in a historical manner as you pointed out. And so in that context. Robert Johnson doesn't sound. All that different or all that exciting right, and so the excitement that comes from the foul juicy and comes with having. An artist that meets the needs of the sixties in in. You know the fall out of the sixty isn't present with those students. And so that audience you know shows. Each audience has its own sort of context. And helps to formulate how. Commerce and commercial efforts to get the music out there. You know is affected by those audience expectations, which doesn't get enough attention, you know. Absolutely I think the thing about Robert Johnson. Is he somebody who broke out culturally and posthumously bet, but he is way better known than his peers. Charlie Patton skipped his predecessors. Mentors Charlie Patent Skip, James, also his peters like money waters and Halloween who had the big advantage of being to live longer and adapt to new instruments and get a second chance and postwar Chicago, but it sort of reminds me of the Beatles and the rest of the British invasion. If you were to be teaching a class about British music in the sixties. I take a lot of kids today. We probably focus on the rolling stones. The kinks are the WHO and be kind of like. You know what's so special about the Beatles yet. The Beatles had this enormous cultural breakout. kind of unprecedented in kind of match since then, but once you get down into the weeds of evaluating these things just as records. You know they're great, but so are the rolling stones, and so are the kinks and Van. Morrison and so you know. It's very hard to. On just purely aesthetic basis say. Why did this artist breakout culturally and and other artists didn't because aesthetically they're pretty comparable yet. You Know Robert. Johnson's become not just a legend industry I mean there's new books about him coming out. Every year of somebody has a photograph of Robert Johnson Claims Photograph Abroad Johnson. There's a bidding war. You know I, think Walter Little Cynical doesn't believe people listened to Robert Johnson that much they may be bought the CD back in the nineties, or or maybe subscribe to his channel on on spotify, but don't actually play that much I. Don't really know it's really hard for me to. Analyzing! It seems like the long tail. Basically, everybody's listening to Billie Irish or whatever a tiny minority of people are listening to everything else and so it kinda evens out, but. I don't know. How much? Listening, time? A relative to other artists. You know that these these old like I line blues recordings. Get. I think that. You know you do have these costume this instances where? The money, the the the record industry who has control over the recording. is they put together a product and they have a sense of the audience. They have kind of a sense. You know how to get to distribute. The product a lot of times. There are technological advances that occur. And definitely with Robert, Johnson I mean part of his enduring profile. Is that Bach set? That came out on TV. In the late eighties early nineties. That was tremendously successful. In climbing. Yeah I mean it's just crazy. And, When you and the interesting thing is, that didn't fuel some rabid Re Address I. Mean This CD The digital revolution CD revolution eventually led to the reissuing of you know all kinds of stuff. The had not been seen for years on TV. But you didn't have. An explosion of interest in early Blues Fouling this tremendously successful Robert Johnson box. Whereas like in Nineteen Eighty Danny, sugarman book. No one here gets out alive. Explodes Jim Morrison. into. Greater in the doors into integrated notoriety in. And Monetary Success then they had had when they were existing. Just you know ten years earlier, but that also involves an explosion of interest in the sixties in general. And and and kind of. Solidified this this nostalgia. Based, music industry approach of. After X. number of years we can go back and resell this stuff to the next to these. Next generation kids who are just two younger remember it, it's it's GonNa. Be All brand new for that, you know. And so I. Think, it's interesting that. Robert Johnson's box that was. Such a crushing success. But Lonnie Johnson remain completely obscure and he's and he's an unbelievable towels right? Yeah, we draw is is largely. You know obscured and forgotten for you know even though we have some. Minor. Coke figure like dolemite making some exploitation own. You know where he is. You know marrying the devil's daughter, and all this kind of thing is a PD instructor. But that's just you know that's kind of. That's part of the commercial fray is kind of know your audience and picking your spots? And knowing how to put the package together. and that was true back the twenty th. It's true, and at the dawn of the D. version. That's true now you know and I thought one of the things that wall brought up. That was interesting. Is that You know towards the late twenties. The blues sort of goes into Hibernation as far as innovation is concerned. And Part of that was because the industry kind of figured out how to sell it. They figured out what they could reliably present to the audiences. And so the money ended. It was like we're not interested in idiosyncratic street. Corner! You know. Blues Singers or whatever we this more news, more sophisticated artists. Leroy. Tampa Red's are these duos debt or smooth and. And could kind of. You know satisfied both urban. Audiences and in rural, already unintended at the same time, and so as a result. Familiarity and the the money and feeling like they. They had it. had a clock. Innovation of stops for a moment I thought that was an interesting point. Yeah, for sure, and it's also important to keep him on that in the context so much. The innovation was happening on the happening on the big band side, and so you know you had like a Guitarist Charlie Christian. Who was definitely a student of Lonnie? Johnson for sure and probably was familiar with definitely blind lemon Jefferson, probably some of the Delta Blues. Guys, but he goes into jazz into playing with Benny Goodman ten years earlier, he probably would have been. Following a career path similar to Lonnie Johnson and I think a lot of this comes to appoint. Made Pre. Pre show discussions, which is that humans need signposts, and that's where we get Kennedy's ironclad genres. They can imposed on music after the fact and talk about that a little bit. Well. I think that it's just you know human cognition if you WANNA like sort of. Get into that deeply. Get into the weeds on that level. I mean human cognition requires boundaries. You know it requires differentiation, and it therefore Beth. Classification you know and. John! Laura is a way of using that sort of very human. Cognitive tendency to classify things. It's a way of selling. You know an item or a product saying like you're over here are your records and then within this been records here we have some genres. It it's, it's a shorthand. It's very useful to have things like stereotypes I mean. We often denigrate stereotype because there's some obvious. Problems with with relying too heavily on stereotypes. and. It not not least of which is the the people being stereotypes are eagerly marginalized etcetera. But stereotypes are still useful. There's some truth to stereotypes or some truth. There's truth to you know easy classification, such as genre, and that sort of thing. And it's it's. It's so useful that we continue to do it even though. If you once you get into the genre and you're interested in and you get to know. You, know the blues, or whatever if you become invested it, then you start looking at it and you can, you'll find that the people that are really entities. Your others get impatient with it. and. It's just it's. It's one of the interesting sort of dynamics comes out of you know studying. How have commercial success? How do you? Get your product in front of people. How you? Felt the audience know. What they're buying giving them a shorthand to help. Break down that barrier between The product and the money that the the the consumer brings to the. To the market. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, and I to play our next song. Which is a song that you picked out? That is weird collision of. Lonnie Johnson who is a city sophisticat, extremely Slick Blues and Jazz Guitar Player when he was doing duets with bing crosby's guitarist Eddie Lang when he wasn't a plan with guys like Texas Alexander. WHO's come like a John Lee? Hooker figure swept in off the street. I mean this is a guy who does not keep regular time. This is a guy who. Does early impose much of a form on his music, and and in a way is almost hearkens back to fill haulers I. mean the this song can't Moan Blues I mean. Let just let people here at it's. Texas. Alexander. Lonnie Johnson Doing Camp Moan Blues. Cuma. Mud. I? A. Oh. And that was Texas Alexander backed up by Lonnie. Johnson Duly Kampman Blues and you call that sort of a collision between. Modernism and POSTMODERNISM and pre modernism I've been talking about that a little bit like the blues and the twenties. We heard Vesey strength and Louis Louis Alexander and it state of the art. It's sophisticated. It's slick. And then you know and Lonnie Johnson comes out of that world at Texas. Alexander is Bama all the way. This guy is pretty much sounds like he's straight out with the feels. While I mean. Just. Before making any further comment, I think the name of the Song is Levy Camp Mon glued. Levy can't. Moan and entertain example of that kind of of of. Field expression. In the way walled explains in the way. If you kind of read about it in other places, it's much more individualistic form. almost talking to. It's the the senior almost talking to themselves while sounding out there on feeling. ETC, but you know. Reminding ourselves that the blues is. Probably something that has a relatively. Modern sort of presence in that time, right? We have already mentioned that it was something that was kind of developing at that time. That's that recording? Astonishing because it does have this you can, you can hear kind of the the prerecorded. PRERECORDING era in the way, he approaches broke relations. You, it's also something that's not really. I don't think that that recording was something that was likely to be popular. It wasn't something that was driven by Audience Tastes and desires at the time was recorded. And they if there are a number of recordings between did involve. Johnson backing. You Know Alger Texas, Alexander and most of them have a much more typical guitar. Backing that provides melody fleshes out the melody, but also gives a little rhythm a little shopping to it. So that you could dance to it, or what have you, but in this instance? There's none of that right. This kind of Sri Forum call and response. that. You. Note that there probably weren't many guitars could have done it as well as Johnson. but it it. It has this kind of collision this kind of throwing together of these two different styles. And Lonnie Johnson. It's almost A. You know he's making up disease going along right it. It's IT'S A it's on some level. Has This really new sound? So that's how it sounds to me I. Don't it entirely possible that there were people that? Had A history or You Know A. Doing Hollers, bones, and having guitar played with them that way, but there are not very many recordings of it like that. And as a result, it has just kind of. timelessness to it. It doesn't sound like it comes from. An easy genre I. Don't sound like it comes from some trend. You know that was going on at the time, Cetera. Yes. It's really a remarkable collision. It makes me think of. You know like somebody like captain, beef heart, who, while a talented vocalist, is very eccentric and mediocre musicians really struggled to play with him, but certainly like Ri- cooter, who's a virtuoso and open minded was able to accompany him brilliantly, so somebody like Johnson Brings Butts, the chops to play anything, but also the sensitivity to understand what Texas Alexander is bringing to the table whereas I think a lot, you know your average virtuoso would have been just dismissive of Alexander. It'd be like I'm not gonNA play with this client. Whereas somebody that alterra elite level like Lonnie Johnson Raccoon can adapt themselves recognize what the performer is bringing to the table and company that brilliantly it's. It's It's a really really fun. Listen and. You know the the struggles to sort of understand these things and trying to do it. On their own terms like what's this lesson whilst trying to impart? Israeli fun, but get into. There's always the potential for misadventure, and and I think one of the most interesting things going back and listen to conversation with Walt again was his comparisons of. The response to the blues on the part of people like Brian Jones of the rolling stones and Eric Clapton who missed the joke Robert. Johnson's biggest hit was terrifying blues, and he tells the story of being at the service where they put I think put a grindstone Robert Johnson's grave finally or some kind of ration- and there was a service at the church, and so there's a mix of local African Americans, and then you know blues, fans and. And White you white folks coming in that are big Johnson's Fan and Elijah Walton aband- there. Because all the musicians you showed up and he's singing Tara playing blues, which is basically off color, double entente song, and that was the closest thing Johnson had to hit in his lifetime, and the by folks in there are getting their laughing at the dirty implications, these lyrics, or as the white who will vary somber and serious and appreciating the blues and. You know he makes us comparison to NWEA. which really hit home to me? Because NWEA was the first lack group that really broke through with the white kids in my hometown of Borger Texas in the late eighties, we, the racist backlash of the seventies hit that area hard and I had never seen. White kids get into black music. I mean a few of us were getting into run. DMC and a few things like that and you know the gap band Rick James would have hits. People notice in the Michael. Jackson Prince obviously had an impact but NWEA swept the metal heads. Like nothing nobody's business in Wald's Base Tang is like you either have to take that as comedy, or it's just a bunch of aggressive people yelling about stupid stuff and and. You know. Other writers like buying on the author's name of the Guy just read the book about trump called quest. He broke it down Nina's nwea very cynically knowing exactly what would appeal white boys and he now that. Is Keeping. Company totally nailed that and and. You know if you listen. On one level it is, it's hilarious stuff, and and you know by nothing but bitches and money. You know we don't just say no. We're too busy, saying yeah, and and. There's all these white kids coming along and taking it seriously just like there's all these white kids come along post-facto with Robert Johnson and taking the whole. Satan is Amiss seriously I mean to the point of this Ralph Macho movie about it in the eighties and so I I just. Talk about. This sort of trouble we can get into your crossing racial boundaries in John Boundaries you call it contextual abduction I think. Well I think there's a couple of things there in one of them is. Is that obviously? You know there are different context that come from different sort of cultural millions right. and. It can be difficult to read the entire meaning that goes into a cultural product from one locale from one group of people, so the next group of people I also think especially in the United States if it were raised, issues are involved especially between black and white. there is there's tension that occurs especially when. When White. Audiences white consumer. Tried, or or have a desire to? Consume black cultural product. A lot of times it comes at the needs to be serious and to demonstrate. that. The culture is being taken seriously as being valued etc, etc.. And and so that. That solemnity almost. Can Get in the way of enjoying. What is a long-standing tradition within? culture. Within the dozens within you know within. African American musical expression African. American stage presences, etc, the double entendre. Etc.. Lee. The other thing. I think that's and I think this is. Part of. Why walled tries to occasionally insert information in the narrative about? About blacks and whites creating music together playing music together, being influenced by one another. And showing appreciation for one, another is the you know. Our individual artists I mean they're trying to trying to find audiences that are as broad and deep as possible because that secures their financial success, and it brings brings out attraction, the more people that enjoy the music, the more styles buying it is. And many infants is the artists themselves are not particularly interested in helping to maintain racial boundaries are not particularly interested in helping to maintain genre boundaries. and they would rather just bring everybody together as as much as they possibly can, and so you know you have these instances in the book where? Like. Elvis Presley. Is Trying to explain his commercial success and his ability to enter the music industry in a successful manner, and he starts talking about being influenced by local African Americans and he and he basically. Worst by. You know linguistic convention. and. It's just occasion as far to like refer to. All black seems like well. The blacks were doing this we. Refer to individuals with Kinky sad interaction. With this this blanket term right, and and then he says look I just did what they were doing a little spin on it and then I presented it to the peak over here in the segregated. You know Population of White. and. They could consume right, and it's it's. It's when you start looking at how race. In interact with Ron Ron. One of the things you notice that the artists don't tend to want to. To support that. But they're forced to deal with it right and the money end of it. They're much more likely to say well. You have to be careful with what we present, so we want you guys to. You African Americans in the Nineteen Twenties and early thirties to record blues. Let's say or you know there's there's sort of by for your. An artificial bifurcation that goes along with with creating genre. And creating products for varying markets, and that's why you end up having you know. R. And B. and pop music when really they're all really essentially the same thing. Which is you know? attendance to social certain social norms and and racial social norms can affect genre, and it can affect the artists audience in Iraq if each other. Absolutely, let's hear. Tampa Red Song, and this is with the guy that was billed as Georgia Tom later became known as Thomas a Dorsey, the father of Gospel, who totally disassociated himself from his early work or Tampa red, and after you hear tight like that, see why. Day In my head on the pillow maybe. that. New! They go on Tilak. Gene had a ball. Is Name was snow'll. The lives off the yen. How? I liked that. I liked. Baby. On inside lag. Spot and that was Tampa. Red And Georgia Tom, doing tight like that is classic example of the kind of double on time that had driven sales of Blues. Music and would go on to be a big part of our NB. All through the forties and fifties and on you know. That's just a big part of African American culture that that's broken out into the mainstream at various times. But in addition to these racial boundaries that you can get. Tangled up in, there's also these distances of time, and time can raise this awareness of what can really happen and to me. This whole project of of let it roll as an attempt to try to apply these lessons Edward Thomas. You know follow the audience and try to look at things in the context of their own time and doubt just focus on the artists that are remembered, but look back artists that were popular at the time artists that had some other kind of cultural impact, even if it wasn't mass popularity at the time and tried to see that. In this broader context so you know. What did we miss like what what when you read the wall book and then listen to the conversation. What did you feel like? What did I miss? Is there anything out there? Glaring that we need to bring a wrap it up. I, don't I don't I! Think you know between. Your conversation walled in the conversation. We've had today. Most of it has been covered I'm not. I don't feel like I'm saving some. You know glaring omission. Do I do think it's interesting. This is kind of a escaping the Delta kind of popular book, although it does have footnotes and substantive footnotes, it's not just you know For those in concept points. And it has a certain sort of academic aspect to it. In I think it's important to note that he he. He apply sort of basic academic. Just you know a approach. This historians take which is to try and race. Assumption into trouble assumptions. And to. Go back and look at it. It primary sources, contemporary primary sources, etc, still Kinda see. What was really happening? What was the actual context? Not to be driven by subsequent popular. Assessments. And There's also an element of sort of the anthropological approach which is to try and immerse yourself in the culture. And to sort of. Disappear as an observer so that you can most accurately. Absorbed? The practice is in the cultural products. Of a given study group just very difficult to do, and it's you know there's a lot of arguing about whether you can actually do that. I think that from the from the standpoint of. Trying to look at. Cultural second innovations and productions and commercial endeavors based on. That culture and technology etc.. Good to keep in mind you know. That sort of circle approach and the anthropological approach. And that you know there are. There's a very well known paper within anthropological circles where. This concept of deep plays. Is Is. Bandied about the deep clay is basically this. A set of dynamics in value expressions within a group that are largely invisible to outside observers. But that once you get immersed into the culture you can you start to see these the plays going on, and it helps you better understand the culture their values. And the products that come out of those cultures I think that paper were primarily interested in looking gambling. COCKFIGHTS in Indonesia. I can't remember yeah. That's right cockfighting Indonesia. Yeah A. And so you know I. think that's a good thing, but keep in mind for people in general. Studying any kind of human endeavour, and trying to assess what had happened in the past, and see how it connects to presence, and all that I think that that book does a good job of popularizing. Those kinds of efforts you know and talking about things that are. Pretty! Complicated, an easily obscured. Sure and I'm looking forward to bring any back for the next episode. We're GONNA. Talk About Elijah. Walls how the Beatles destroyed rock and roll where he applies Sundays principles to the study of. The Beatles and Paul Whiteman and you know an alternate title could well be Popular Music from Sousa Sergeant. Paper, but he went with the pot stirring. How the Beatles destroyed rocket. Left a lot of people scratching their head I. Know It lost Robert Chris Cowan. I talked to Chris also looking forward to having you back on and. Is Your? Campbell doctor e Campbell and we've been talking about the logic escaping adult. Follow the letter role podcast on twitter at let it roll cast and check out our website at let it roll podcast dot com. Next week year e Campbell returns to ask. What did we learn from Malaysia Wald's how Beatles destroyed rock and roll. Let it roll is a Pantheon podcast and you can listen to all the other Great Pantheon podcast at www dot pantheon podcasts dot com. Love. Escaping the Delta is available from Amish Thaad an imprint of Harpercollins and can be found wherever fine books are sold.

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Big Band Files New Years Eve Show Family Style HR 1

Doug Miles Media

53:27 min | 10 months ago

Big Band Files New Years Eve Show Family Style HR 1

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Call five six two three one four four six zero three for complete details. Hi this is george. Caro with the sarasota sunsets jazz big band. Wishing everybody a a great to oh seven new year's greeting and I want to tell you that Doug miles is my guy here. On twelve twenty. W i b q. It's too late in the game. You just say what are you own. It's leads that well combing ooh baby. I'm crazy. I would never be show oliver and tation a case us and one little here comes john question. What i one little question john z. All ooh Do a A down basically and the orchestra with the moten swing and before that. Nancy wilson with asking the question. What are you doing. New year's eve yeah. Welcome to our third hour of the new year's eve big band party tonight. Glad to be with you as we are doing traditional radio show tonight our new year's eve big band party live with you in studio on this Beautiful sunday night here in sarasota. Nice warm weather kind of like out there and a great night to be with you on the radio. We're gonna have some fun ride up through midnight. Great music coming up. Great big bands. Great singers and some broadway steph from some other fun things going on as well and some special guests will be dropping by and two of them are in the studio right now. It's kind of like the king family specials tonight and having to members of my family and my sister bev kerns sam. No spam kerns are statistician for football. Hawaii get closer to that. They're good to see you and we're gonna have to fund him. I know you brought us a list of songs your request general request show tonight. We thought it'd be kind of fun to do a little bit about new york. Many places around the world have already had new year's eve lenny places around the united states have grand celebrations but the united states. We tend to think of times square. Middle of new york. City starts there. it starts there. And we've got some songs for that and we're producers review it with you and i grew up in new york born there. Sam wasn't i wasn't but i spent some time there everybody your ago for two years ago thanksgiving day parade two thousand four a two years ago. I thought it was just this past year. You're just out in california. Is past thanksgiving right out in california for their christmas parade but member of the review kilty band for years. That's pretty pretty good. You've prevalant with the band s and we're going to have some of sam's favorite songs as well but luckily said it all kind of starts in times square. And we're gonna go up there a few times during the night to see what's going on and we're gonna play some of Everybody's favorite song made a list tonight and we have some requests down here on paper as well. So we'll get to that but we start with One of yours bev. Okay bring us up here there. We go go ahead. Here's a song from the nineteen forty four musical in one thousand nine hundred forty four. Mgm musical on the town Frank sinatra gene. Kelly and how were sailors. Having a lively romp. They had one night just one night and they talk a little bit about how wonderful town. New york is was a great movie which likes gene. Kelly frank sinatra and melo is in that as well right you know the ellen. I think she was in that betty garrett great cast through sailors that have one day in new york. And it's going to go right into one of your songs right. Sam yes it will from from broadway. Broadway yes pajama game Which was later made into a movie in the nineteen sixties once a year day. Because new year's eve comes but once a year and it's actually on broadway was recently with revival. Pajama game with harry. Connick junior was on it. So let's go to that right now. We've got one day here on the payment side. We'll find the romance endanger. Wait a minute hear on our chest. So what we like the best. I know that if he go on says my saghir day come on and son new. This was once a year once a year. They even got a kiss from. You might be like up and down like pang. Joan invensys climbing trees. What pleases me. As what i'll says wild census by charlie's despite look at papa bush claims he's ninety three twenty two louis been myself i watching pau and with aiding i own my thumb mound uttering old mound off was all the mound. I'm memory A when a move was all amount to be with my Kate smith when the moon comes over the mount and one of our requests from Pearl in sarasota. Who are mom. He requested that so we wanted to get that advocate. Smith also become more guests in studio george and his wife. I'm sorry. I mean alison sorry. Alison george georgiou Basically keep us on the air. Orient george of america. I'm doing great doug I'm looking forward to two thousand seven because we're going to have a new studio. We want you people come by sarasota mall not square mall sarasota square and take a look in the window and you'll see our new furniture and hopefully by we too will be in our new air studio and we'll be inviting guests in the come and check us out that's great you're working this weekend. Put new furniture. I was here. I was here today or i'll be here tomorrow. We wanna get this done. And he's the guy that keeps us going through the air very well. Georgia appreciate all the work. You've done the last two and a half years moved from main street. Got us on the air within a few hours that day. Happy new year to you. You else joint stopping by and kind of a family show tonight so if you want to join us by telephone call at nine five four two three three nine or nine five four two three four zero or if you're outside the area code and we have a lot of people listening on the internet tonight. Eight six six nine. Five to twelve twenty. You just want to say hello or have a request. Give us a call. We'll try and get on food. Be up Right through midnight tonight. Let's write music for you so hope you'll be with us and Let's start another request from bed. Woody got okay. This one's take a train in the earlier song Gene kelly and frank sinatra sang about the people riding a hole in the ground. Well here's a song about a hole in the ground. Take the train all around all over new york city Up and down brooklyn bronx manhattan. Take the a train. Great song about the subway train many times. It's a great train. Should take the train to get sugar hill. Way up in harlow Put the you get to sugar hill and Oh train is saw you. the truth. Sugarhill known should take the a train thanking. I've had enough should take the train. Hits swing at a straw. A scary scarring lover need to the eh Should a data sugarhill went up. shows the Pete the prophet here. Wishing you happy new year's what am i doing. I'm gonna listen to big band. Sounds third anniversary with doug miles. That whole show is the greatest thing on earth. That's what i'm listening to is the longest title in the history of any show. But i'll be listening to enjoy happy new year On off the glenn miller orchestra the newest version from their latest. Cd that is a title of tune called. I dreamt i dwelt in harlem one of the old charts. Glenn miller ban that they brought out of the book. And we've had larry o'brien on the director of the band and he's going to be back with us in a few weeks that come into the area believing reforming advan ways. Oh and also up in clearwater. So we'll talk to him about that. But that his newest recording from the glenn miller orchestra on the big band files and all that jazz. Our new year's eve party show live in studio with tonight. Over at the westfield sarah square mall doug miles along with bev kearns sam. No spam kerns and george in. Alice backed in studio with you tonight. Enjoying little new year's celebration with your see what's going on. It looks like the power to get started up in times square can hear the crowd going and we're gonna be checking in with them a little bit later on as well up in the beautiful new york city. I wonder if it's not as warm as it is down here. But it'd be nice celebration tonight. Okay sandwich your turn. You're up next okay. Up next is a song from the musical phantom of the opera. Which i saw when i was in new york a couple of years ago. Great show It's called masquerade. good. Yeah andre loomed. Bright unimpressed jest. Must all the same. That is a shame that phantom fellow of here ohio i walk vlad. Mix out of all the crab free yet to the new iphone. Your teen wrong. Watch to the waste. One wristy odd him as old favorites from the twenty s. But it was made popular again back in the sixties winchester cathedral on fs Nelson riddle on the orchestra. That is a request from art in sarasota. Who happens to be our dad. He requested that and a good song. He heard that last night on the lawrence welk show so we want to hear it again tonight but different version so we got that out for when chester cathedral. This is the big band files. New year's eve party were live and studio. I'm miles bev. Kerns sam no spam. Kerns my sister and nephew george and alice back in the studio with us having some fun tonight. And it's your turn again bib winning on. Okay i've got give my regards to broadway This evening there are lots of people right around broadway People in times square The times square gang is between forty second and forty seventh street between broadway and seventh avenue. We think of broadway as the broadway shows we think of broadway. As being sort of the center of the city. Broadway is the longest street in the united states. Goes from lower manhattan. All the way up to albany. Continuously here is give my regards to broadway the great al jolson. Give my regards way harold all the gang at forty seconds for you well with one of the all time throng give my old broadway and say law a on renshaw josh. Stop off. Small The man on the outlet then clear has changed my regard them abroad. Remember he at forty seconds. Pretty asked well how i where they own. I am wrong all wrong and say that. I be the herald my regardless of where. Hey remember where all the all seconds her. How wrong fire. Not long hannah. Up in broadway again. Pretty excited up there. The crowd over there guards to broadway with al jolson right before that and sam. You're up next okay. I've got the dance at the gym from west side. Story immovable workout musical about new york with now. This was Done back in the late fifties originally right leonard bernstein and Sorry right and then it was made into a movie. I think in the eighties The movies actually in the sixties movies. These movie who was in that was much relative unknowns. I think wait a marino was in that but everybody else was kind of an unknown but it was a huge hit. I think they filmed it in new york. I'm not mistaken on the few museums. They actually filmed in new york back then on location so this is a dance at the gym and as the two gangs. Kinda doing this to gangs dancing. It's jim and this is one of the songs we played during halftime. Show two years ago before we went to the On the new york trip. Talk about that for a minute. Because you've got to go up there but You're part of the kilty band and then there was this part of the halftime. Show you the football game. Halftime show the football games. Yes and you also did this competitions to it and you up in Up around tampa saint petersburg area. No we haven't done any competition the big band the band competition up there now. We just do marching we get raided. But that's what i meant. Yeah rating and that year. I think we went to manatee right. Okay this is what you did in the parade played in the parade and in the parades and in halftime show. How did you like that good margins. York marching new yorkers fun fun long but fun of the two trips. You took the new york two years ago and then the most recent one hollywood favorite. It'd be the one which one you like better. I can't compare the two different Different type of crowd atmosphere. In hollywood is opposed to new york. I would have been different. Type of crowd and hollywood's we just march straight through in. You're in new york. We did a show at the end of the parade for the tv cameras. You went into that. Little section there in macy's on the star in front of macy's and in hollywood we just marched past the tv cameras and went on to the rest of the parade going. Yeah they showed a couple times. Smell the hollywood one in Wgn wgn could pick up down here. She'd be a lot. Yeah that's great. Okay let's joe. This is from west side story. Song called dance at the gym. Los angeles so actions tonight. Please folks may have your attention. I can do promo friends when the wave of my hand. This very had please observed me if you will live professor harold hill. Nine here organized city boys ban think my friends any cable ever hope to compete with the goal. I don remember. My friends went ahead trumpet players. The payments people won't empirical. Paula walks tumble. So the boys band. You hear me. I said city gotta have a boy van. I'm teens today. Professor harold hill on hand princeton. He's going to have a boy's man ensures the more green apples and that is going to be in uniform ghani willie kenny and you'll see the glitter pricing symbols and you'll hear the rolling drums and a super products and you'll feel something akin to the electric drill. Wants to join but deal. More on the greek chris or w c handy and john phillips sousa whole town on the very same historic day rain by role mine back famous talk a look like we increase many on to by sue ellery. Besides umpire sped away their everybody. Ape ale thin communion two an focuses. Ania stick us stone. We're gonna go to news time now. With our old friends kennedy shutter bloom and lay us out of louisville water to drink before that seventy six trombones and other request from arden. Sarah smith from the music take a break for the news at the top of the other. Another full hour ago right up until midnight. Stay with us here on the doozy big-band files party a flower. That blooms of fox in the crash in the the song of from the mystery of life the steps in the whole the sound of the wind and the water. It's the move loading free. It's the curve of the it's and it's a it's a reason for hope and the riverbanks sings up the warriors of pumps the promise of spring gets the joy in your heart funny. 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A Bowl of Soul A Mixed Stew of Soul Music Broadcast - 04-22-2021- Celebrating April is Jazz Music Appreciation Month

A Bowl of Soul A Mixed Stew of Soul Music

1:05:17 hr | 6 months ago

A Bowl of Soul A Mixed Stew of Soul Music Broadcast - 04-22-2021- Celebrating April is Jazz Music Appreciation Month

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Be sure to add our podcast in the how did you hear about padro section of the application you reach the right place. A destination called soul. It's the biro annex. You-know-what stacks. it's a bowl of soul. A mixed to of so music and abolish soul is celebrating. April is jazz appreciation. Month right here on a bowl of so. This is jonathan winstead. And you're listening to a bowl of soul a mixed. Ooh of soho music. He Whole i john own Took uh-huh Right here on a bowl of soul. Celebrate miles davis with his first great quintet. That consisted of john coltrane on tenor saxophone. Miles davis trumpet. He also play piano or sids ahead on this album alto saxophone. Julian cannonball adderley red garland on piano. Paul chambers double bass and philly. Joe jones on drums and this was from nineteen fifty eight. This is considered martin jazz at this moment. And let me tell you. This is a classic. This album is classic because it has blues material which also incorporates bebop and post bob okay and definitely it also introduce modal jazz as defined in miles davis music. That would come later on. We celebrate right here on a bowl of soul. Miles davis and we're celebrating. April is jazz appreciation month. And as you know. Chaz is an american music art form and i want to incorporate jazz on a bowl of soul because a lot of your arm be music was developed and played by some of your best jazz musicians and just to give you an example motown most of the motown backbone the funk brothers who gave you the funk bone on a lot of motown records these cats were jazz musicians coming up next the great mr john coltrane talking about giant steps and this is a bowl of soul. Oh amidst to of psalm using who took A celebrating the legendary saxophonist. Mr john coltrane on giant steps which was done in one thousand nine hundred sixty and giant steps. Is the album also of that name. Which was the fifth studio album for. John coltrane released in february one thousand nine hundred sixty on atlantic records and it's considered a standard you know. Giant steps is considered a standard and again many of its tracks on this album especially the song has become a practice template for jazz saxophonists. So you'll learning how to play jazz. You wanna play this song giant steps and we celebrate mr john coltrane right here on a bowl of soul and you know what i didn't know. Is that the father of jazz. Which makes sense was mr louis armstrong and also known as satchmo. Louis armstrong grew up listening to the blues. As you know the father of the blues is legendary. W c handy and jazz is an original music. Art form celebrated all over the world. I mean old lova. The world because jazz incorporates elements of the blues and a syncopated off of the blues. Coming up next this classic standard by this lady and they were has been an excellent version done by the legendary latin soul artist. Joe pa- todd. Miss gloria lynne. Talking about i wish you love and this is a bowl of seoul. This is your man jay most in your listening to soul music at its best a bowl of soul mixed stew of soul music you leading without touching. This is where our story. You never have a friend. Good let's call it a day but before you walk away sincerely want to say he. I wish you birds to give your heart a song to say and then a kiss but more than this. I wish you love in june to cool you in some relief. Be i wish you go and more than wealth. I wish you by breaking and you could never be so with my best. Mas such you wish. Huge show from the star. I'll it by to keep you long. But most of all when snowflakes wish you that you never so my very cozy by to you but most of all when snowflakes i wish he He so beautiful so we celebrate. Miss gloria lynne was jazz singer from harlem new york and you know this song originally was done in french. It was call que less steel day. Nas amores which means what remains of our loves but the english version is what you just heard. I'd just. I wish you love which was done by miss gloria lynne and like i said gloria lynne was born on november twenty third nineteen twenty nine in harlem new york and she passed away in october. Fifteen twenty thirteen at the age of eighty three and her john. Nra of singing was jazz and this song was very popular in one thousand nine hundred sixty one. I wish you love. This song is a pop standard. Actually this is another song. Where if you wanna learn how to sing. Cut your chops doing this on a beautiful song. Very popular and in nineteen ninety six. Gloria lynne received the international women of jazz award and she was honored with a pioneer award by the rhythm and blues foundation in nineteen ninety-seven and she was honored at new. York's shamburg librarian in harlem. Because holum was where she was born for her many contributions to the music industry and the world of great by great women in music. And we celebrate this gloria lynne. Right here on a bullet soul coming up next going to give you some south side chicago jazz from the legendary mr john right. The name of this song is called forty seventh and callum it and this is a bowl of soul. Hi this is kanye does. And you're listening to a bowl of soul a mixed so music to us Wow ness definitely losing very busy celebrating. Mr john right. He was born in louisville kentucky but he was a child of chicago's south side jazz scene and he played solo piano. You listened to him. There are some traces of red gaulan. An arrow gone one of my favorite pianists. Both of them. But i love ever gone if you hear the bluesy you could. You know you could ways plano's keys but this man could put down and he was devoted entirely to a twelve bar blues and he was an uncommon musician who could create a stain moves with the simplest of material. And you know there is when you listen to jazz. Dear is a connection not only with the blues gospel. Because that's what gospel does you can take those most simplest song and create and sustain moons and move people through the music and the singing and we celebrate mr john right with his condition of forty seven thing. Callum it coming up next. We'll play you some latin jazz. This great right here. Missed the mongo. Santamaria doing summertime. You gotta hear this cut right here on a bowl of so. This is your man d folks. Y'all checking on a bowl of so. We wanted hottest days in a land. Professor t love The celebrate raw. Yeah you heard the african drums because this guy was a master of the cone guy. Mr romo mongo santamaria. 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The Vanishing of Harry Pace: Episode 1

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The Vanishing of Harry Pace: Episode 1

"Before we start today's show. It's you know. This episode contains a few moments of content language. That might be Upsetting for sensitive listeners. Young kids nine listening to radio radio from wnyc. Hey this is radio lab. Jet rod really excited to to bring you a project. I've been working on with him. Only you e yeah. Co-creator of delhi prints america. We jumped into click dumped into perfect. Timing no this project runs for about a month and Yes really excited. Let's do it. Yes start us off okay. So every family has a secret but some family secrets are bigger than others will start with eric. Pace the great grandson. My sister got me a job at this. Ymca camp two thousand six and we got a message from my dad saying we have a mandatory family meeting. You guys need to leave work to come in talk to us. Did you tell you what was up. He didn't give us any other information he said. No you gotta you gotta come to the family meeting. And i'll tell tell you everything. We thought like. This has got to be divorced. We told everybody at the job. And they're like there's like good luck with the meeting. This sounds really heavy. Really serious tahina sister hop in the car just like trying to hurry up and get there so we could see what this all about three hours later. They walk into their childhood home in redding california and the whole family. Is there like eight of them. My dad tells us to go sit in the living room and we're not a very formal kind of family and so that was that was strange. We're like okay. This is getting weirder. And we're and then. He holds up a picture that had been on our wall. Our whole lives. It was a really old picture. It's kind of the sepia tone guy in a pinstripe suit. Really good looking but kind of weary look on his face like he's being told to smile but he doesn't really wanna smile and he says. Do you all know who this man is. we said. Yeah that's your grandfather. Harry pace old. What did you know about harry pace at that point. I mean not much. this is susan pace granddaughter. When he was a lawyer he was a lawyer. We knew that. Peter pace grant. We knew we lived in chicago and he lived in new york. He's the one who called the meeting. And i was told he was like italian. The notion was presented. That tastes was an angler. Cessation of paci paci talion. They told me it means peace. Peace cool you know. We grew up thinking. Maybe were talion. You put together a talian and lawyer so we thought oh. Maybe he's a lawyer for the mom. We just kind of made this stuff up in any case at the meeting. Peterson's everyone down. I think i told them. I said you know how. We'd never really known anything about grandfather harry pace well. We've discovered some interesting information about it. Then he handed us the packet about ten pages long and so we started reading and within like about thirty seconds. I was just like oh my god. Oh my god. It was mind blowing goddess. It's crazy camp. Believe this has been kept from us was it was really you know. It was just so shocking. Wow how could it even been a consideration that i wouldn't need to know this. What they discovered. Is that this man. Harry pace. Who's picture had been hang on their wall. Their whole lives well first of all. He wasn't italian but turns out that he was african american. He was black. That's how identified. That's how it was seen. And he was someone who literally changed america in like nineteen different ways. Music culture theater housing law proceeded to fight the case all the way to the supreme court of the united states. The decision opened five hundred properties to black resident he desegregated whole neighborhoods laid the groundwork for so much music like without him along new we'd have no rob johnson meets introduce mass. No rolling stones. Eric clapton even had a hand in coining the term rock and roll. I mean this. Dude god why. Why don't we have like three movies about this. Dude i mean hello ava rene right good god i mean this dude is like he is like the vocational macgyver but then somehow right at the peak of his power it's like he vanished so completely that none of us know a story not even his own family. Wow so you're telling me we're related to this unsung hero and you want me to sit here and laugh about it. I i gotta go understand this for the next three episode. We're going to dig into some of these questions. Who was the. Why did he disappear. And why did american let him. This is the vanishing. Harry pace a mini series on radio lab now. This was a tricky story to report. And tell where did you all get all about him. He can be hard to research. Is there a book about him. deserve single. There's not a lot out there about harry. He's a hard guy to no. We don't have voice. We barely have his words so to try to help us make sense of all this. We assembled an amazing team of collaborators. I'm jamie floyd turns. Mcknight's perry who jefferson. You'll hear all of them along the way and i'll just say full disclosure one of the things that drew i to harry story is it. He's a guy who just didn't fit the categories that the world offered him thin slips between the cracks. Yeah and in a very different way. I say this cautiously feel as middle eastern people that experience. There's something about it that make sense. Sometimes it feels like people don't know how to see you. You think a lot of people have this experience all kinds of ways. My parents say for example court. Filmmaker jefferson one of our collaborators. My parents told me. Tell the story about When i was about to putting the in front of a mirror with them and just sort of letting me take in the differences in in all of us. In the fact that i that i neither looked entirely like my mother nor entirely like my father because they said that i asked what what am i what am i. I cannot remember time when i was not aware of being different from everybody else. Sign up. this is journalist. Jimmy floyd another of our collaborators. She runs wnyc's race justice unit. I mean everybody. I knew was either white or black. There was nobody else who is kind of coffee colored with an afro. Like me. And i mean coffee with milk and to this day i feel a lot blacker than i really am in my mind. I am really black. That doesn't mean my black friends and colleagues always see me as black and so it is complicated. Then when you step into the multi-race okay. So we'll get back to jamie and in the family soon ish but we a lot of ground to cover so i we're gonna take you on an audio rollercoaster through what they discovered in those pages chapter one the rise. Let's go. he was born in eighteen. Eighty four eighteen eighty four and covington georgia georgia scholars. David sweetman and emmett price. Which is about thirty two miles east of atlanta very picturesque place That's been used for a lot of movies. And tv shows like the dukes of hazzard was shot there in the heat of the night other films and tv shows that needed a good antebellum background. Now remember stoller. Willie ruff every paste was was born. Just a few years after emancipation about thirty years. After the emancipation proclamation. His parents were slaves grandparents. Actually one of the things we know about harrier we think we know is that. His grandfather owned plantation raped one of his slaves. She had a child and that child was harry's grandfather which helps tell us. Harry himself was so fair skinned which played quite a role throughout his life. This is journalist paul sleigh to our knowledge. He has written the only book. That's out there about. Harry what do we know about harry's father and mother so we know that his father was named charles charles's blacksmith. We know that his dad died when he was really young. Five or six dad's gone. Mother is nancy francis pace and we think that a harry's mother was laundries so if that is true then we do know that the type of folks whose laundry she would be doing would be of significant means a single mom so no doubt he took harry around town whether as she was picking up laundry and drop it off and so he was able to see a huge swath of people that most average kids wouldn't have access to it was probably pretty i opening for him at a young age core jefferson again if no idea but i just think that he probably saw people treat his mother pretty horribly as a servant as somebody who you give your dirty under things to my grandmother and grandfather were domestic servants at a rich white man's estate in ohio. If you see your self as being part of the underclass. I think that there's some some anger that develops with that. One of the things we do know about. Harry is that later in his life he would write a brutal revenge story through all these years he had held his bitterness. This desire for revenge against those of his own blood who had cheated him out of the heritage and the life that properly belonged him about a young mixed race kid like him who tracks down his white ancestors and kills them he thought of himself as being a special of god an instrument to be used in bringing about punishment so yeah there might have been some anger there in any case by the time. He's ten eleven hairy clearly excelled in latin in greek. He played music. He saying. I think even at that point it must have been pretty clear. That harry was a phenomenally bright kid and at the age of twelve he is sent to atlanta university. Cooper who paid for it by the way From the brochures of the school. That i went through from that time. They had donations so he got a scholarship. Yes i mean. Atlanta university was the spot. It was the intellectual mecca for that folks. Think the i think the motto of atlanta university. I'll find a way or make. How is that what. I'll find a way or make one watch me. Professor charles mckinney Take us back to harry. Like what do we know about his life on campus. We know that when he gets to school. This cat was well dressed this dude. He's a handsome man. Just one picture. You can find ways about seventeen. Dark jacket starched white collar. Cliff the cropped. Hair wavy slight smirk. It seems i wouldn't say pleased with himself. All of the black young black women would have felt for this. Do they lemon by the way he couldn't be the country boy that he was from covington his first few years. These things acapella choir off. The debate team writes for the school newspaper. He works his way to school. Working as a printer he was what was known as a printer's devil some kind of print shop job a printer's devil yes young boy at or below the level of apprentice in a printing establishment. Are you just getting on the internet. Just now just looked it up. While he's at atlanta university he finds out that the white printer's devil is making more money than him. What does he do he quits. He says enough of this. I refused to be treated in this manner okay. So he's printing his singing learning to advocate for himself all. That's just up. Because by far the most important thing that happens to him atlanta university with the most significant thing that happens to him there as teammates w. e. b. Boy william edward burghardt. The boys one of the greatest thinkers america has ever produced in eighteen. Ninety seven i went to atlanta university and stayed this thirteen years making a systematic study of the american negro. It's fair to say that for the next twenty five years. There wasn't a book published on negro problem that didn't have to depend upon what we were doing without university. Well with the two boys. I mean you know. He's sort of who all of us. Black studies academics chasing because he's the ultimate like renaissance intellectual. This scholar imani perry. He's the father for american sociology. He's a novelist he's you know. One of the founders of p. also. I'm in article three. He writes the souls of black folks is peculiar sensation. This double consciousness week get his phrase of double consciousness. The sense of always looking at oneself through the eyes of others of measuring one's soul by the tape of a world that looks on in amused contempt and pity which is deep. One feels his tunis. The is the most critical work for black people. steel steel and he publishers. Nineteen three many of us even if we have very different politics all chasing voice negros had some voice in their in their government and trained men to lead them on that point of who would lead black america. It's exactly when harry steps foot on campus. That the boys writes the following phrase. The negro race like all races is going to be saved by its exceptional man. The problem of education then among negroes must first of all deal with the talented tenth. Wbz boys coin said brings to life this idea of the talented tenth scholar. Bill doggett the african americans negroes only thirty five years earlier. Sleighs could improve. Its lot in. America by investing in the town intent the brightest the most intellectual of of the race certainly and deutsche was an elitist idea was. I want to find people who can accomplish things that are so great that even the most bigoted white person can't deny it. Harry was almost a personification of thing in the talented tenth pace. Is number one. Okay if we worked on then. Harry has just started their like what would have been the first interaction like would have heard about him but then when he sees him the boys skin so you can only imagine harry pace following guy around trying to figure out what makes them tick easy. Do magin that one day after class. Excuse me mr two boys. I have a question and i mean you see this bar as there. I mean if you think about star wars harry pace the paddle wan to the jedi master. Deploy into high strength flow from the farce w. e. b. the boys more or less adultery. He recruits hurry to help him with some of his own research projects. He he gives harry the father. Figure that this fatherless kid has never had any also gives harry a whole outlook for to be a race man driven by a sense of service to to black people the talented tenth that it's up to him to lift up the race double consciousness. It's up to him to see himself through the hostile white gays manipulate that gays for his own benefit. In fact later in his life he would give speeches about how important it is to use public opinion to make equality. Happen quest was. How do you do that. How do you show white america. What black america's capable of. That's after the break. This is angela. Bob ers from san jose. California radio lab is supported in part by the alfred p sloan foundation enhancing public understanding of science and technology in the modern world. More information about sloan at www dot. Sloan dot org science reporting on radio lab is supported in part by science sandbox assignments foundation initiative dedicated to engaging everyone with the process of science. Okay okay this is The vanishing of harry pace mini series on radio lab episode one. That's jabber murad. I am glad you are. I'm shima only and we're here yet. We're two people making a podcast. Let's do this back to story okay. So harry pace talented tenth or do boise race man that wants to uplift as he climbs question is how are you going to do it and the answer. He comes up with through a roundabout series of events. Ends up creating this amazing thing that we're celebrating the one hundredth anniversary of pretty much right now but it begins at a bank so nine thousand nine hundred. Seven harry is working. At solvent bank on beale street in memphis. He taught latin and greek for while he tried to start a magazine and now he was working at a bank. How there at solan thing sitting at his desk and a man who turns out to be w c handy now handy father of the blues. Wc handle we now know as the father of the blues who really introduced blues music to america into the world and my good fortune. This is handy. Fomin oral history to live for two years in the state of mississippi. And the here the crude singing of the negro down there. Own harry would now who w c handy was. Obviously i will have to talk about the mortgage business. mr andy. Please sign this form. And that form estimating draws towards the night and all the mortgage businesses completed. I imagine harry hesitating for an wandering to do this. He might not like it. What's he gonna say. Should i show my lyrics x. turns out a harry. I've been writing some song lyrics that he probably had them the top drawer of his desk. Imagine he gets up his nerve. He takes a deep breath. Does show handy's learnings and andy rather likes them shortly after that meeting the get together and start writing songs. I he collaborated on harry with in the cotton fields of dixie. One of the most exciting moments in this series was. I finally found the sheet music for the song after much hunting and ja- jamie floyd and i ended up visiting. John mcwhirter at his home in queens. John the quarter i teach linguistics and some other things at columbia university and in my off time such as it is. I am a great lover of music right now. I'm in a room. Where i believe they're eight hundred and fifty broadway cast albums and i'm straight. He agreed to sight. Read the song for us. You sing it a little bit inheritance in field of did see a deer where the monkey love the low just in where on written so. There's not a good song. But that's what he is better than. I thought it was gonna be. It grows on you doesn't it wasn't bad. Let's piece when your ears and listen to the words. Don't think about what about you know. We are struggling to understand. What are they trying to accomplish. Are they trying to advance a people. They wanted to make some money. Today in this case was probably more handy than pace of the two of them. He was far more famous and far less political and he knew that these plantation songs they sold there wasn't a market for conscious sheet music back then john. Who were they writing this song for. Good white people who wanna hear about that wonderful period when everybody was so happy in the south and you would bring trixie and rebecca an uncle bill around the piano when everybody would sing along to it and then they laugh and clap and then die of typhus or whatever. I can play this. Will you sing along with me off. Sure so field of dixie is a southern home where the mocking birds. Get that. Flosse to see s okay. We'll work and you come to harmony with me. The holy cabin in the loan. where colton. that's what this and then on maj bring some here. Y'all go because their form of entertainment that's all. There was this particular they wrote. It paid a guy fifty bucks to publish it. And he ran off with their money which is karmic lee. Something i don't know. Then they make another song called beale street blues itself pretty well and then suddenly. They moved from memphis new york city when they moved to new york their goal is to set up shop in and amongst all of the other tin pan alley house so all white which are all white on. We're going to compete with everybody else. Show them we have just as good if not better. Material problem is unsurprisingly. They run into a lot of a lot of racism. There are accounts of white music. Publishers literally a costing them in the street now at this point the way that things worked was the sheet music was sold and dime stores and most of those stores were white owned so what payson handy decided to do. Is they hired white. Piano players song plugger says they were called to go into those dime stores and demonstrate their music. So this this bickering. You'd walk into a place and you grab sheet music. I wonder what the sounds like mr demonstrator. Can you play this formula. Then they key it out or miss demonstrator. They were often women. Some of it's so interesting to think about the sheet music passing for black or white just like you know like a person wrote this historian. Elliot hurried he says the strategy worked. They're making all this money. I mentioned nineteen eighteen. Nineteen twenty in yellow dog blues. People love it. It sells huge. Numbers of recordings. Want one and then palm auto on the big one st louis blues. Maybe the most popular song of the twentieth century. It's recorded over two thousand times amid saint louis blues recordings by stevie wonder save louis nat king cole. Louis armstrong the beatles irby handcocks people will be recording that for another hundred years so the the product that these guys produced was immensely important and and spread all over the world and really helped american folklore and american styles and ways of thinking. It's through these two men primarily through pace and handy that this pervades permeates mainstream american society. So white people in ohio have their sheet music on the piano and they're playing at parties. People are buying recordings of their records in australia. In england eventually in in korea and in russia this is this is how america really invades the world handy. You're killing it absolutely killing it. But at the height of their success there is this sharp. Division handy is really stuck on the old world. That sheet music you know. He was eleven years older than harry. He liked how things were going. Harry not won't be wanted. He believed that records are the big new thing now records at this point. We're just a few decades in but people were just starting to get into them. Pace was like let's do it. Pani said no so right at the peak of their popularity with barely any notice quit. He wrote out. He was like enough. I'm done harry price vow to pace in handy harry. Also poached a good number of pace and handy stuff. Oh right the from the post room to the accounts department mostly people in their twenties. Do we have any idea how hand how handy how this hit him. Oh yeah what does he say is All in down and out he talks about. I was broken the bank and blind blind a pace. Do this kind of thing but for harry. This was about more than just music remember paces a race means he's got a mission he's a race man. The same way that do boys is a race man. Harry pace is all about black. Pete of. How do i up list right. While i climb and in the record industry there was a lot more uplifting to do their than sheet music because basically you have three main white record companies and what they were releasing was almost entirely these really demeaning thongs all look alike me all coons look alike to me and the for knowledged. Coon bill doggett again. He says it is impossible to overstate. Just how massive minstrels. The was at this point time. The minstrel show is the myth of american entertainment at the turn of the century. It is based on the demonization of blackness. You had white bands dressing up in black face. Singing outrageously raised the songs based on overblown stereotypes. You know the the watermelon. The fried chicken the big lips and he told us about a songwriter. Bob cole black man who harry definitely would have known about what makes it. Even worse is when a song like. This is good. John worth mexican. This is robert cole. And so if you got me a you and then. They're under the bamboo tree. And it's about a jungle person from multiple new and it's in this dialect and jesus christ. The song is very catchy. Bob cole had an issue with the coon song. All of the extremes. He had a lot of trouble with that. And so all of a sudden one day at nineteen ten or nineteen eleven. He made a decision. I don't know if he was drunk or what. He walked into a lake and drowns. While here is the most successful black writer of his time. Per oh i don't think it's an accidental drowning. So the idea that harry would want to move on from sheet music. This was the context right. The white companies were releasing these minstrel songs. That's all they were doing. They were putting out circular platters of white supremacy in destroying lives in the process. And harry wanted to change that. And if handy didn't want to be involved with that their partnership was over. Harry pace obviously saw the need he he. I can't i mean this is performer. Rhiannon giddens why are why are we neglecting all of this talent. You know. I mean that's the kind of rage to be honest like i mean i can't speak for the man because i you know these obviously dead but i i can only imagine that it would be rage. Inducing to put it mildly. So i can only imagine that all got funneled into you know. Let's do this ourselves. Understood that who makes records under what conditions and to what effects really matters. He understands that those are political issues to him. This is not going to be a regular business now. Hey definitely saw as a a social movement as much as purely commercial one pace being the businessman he was went out and got funding for it. You got a board of directors with the boys and others on the board media. Historian tim brooks. How old is he would have been thirty six. At the time the first question he had to consider what to call it. Well he wanted to call it something that spoke of black pride. Do you know who named it do for for several months at the end of of nine hundred thousand eight. Harry was writing letters to w baidu boys the idea of calling the label. Black swan actually came from voice. He told harry before you were born. There used to be the singer she was. She's soprano so black swan. The name itself you know is named after an opera singer. Elizabeth taylor greenfield. That was her moniker. She was known as the black swan. The first concerts were eighteen. Fifty one eight hundred fifty two making debut in new york city curator. Wandel and reese. She was brought out in stages and there was laughter audiences jarred and laughed at. They couldn't make sense out of what they were hearing that she had a magnificent voice looking back at this magical moment even slavery days on a black woman could command as kind of attention so that that was very much in the air so in may of nineteen twenty one almost exactly one hundred years ago. Harry pace launches black swan when he launches the company. It is hailed in the black press. Chicago defender may seventh nineteen twenty one news of the completion of the first list of black swan records. Which are now ready for. Delivery will be received with great interest and enthusiasm by our people all over the united states when the announcement was made that a company had been formed to manufacture phonograph records by artists. A great uproar was caused among white phonograph records companies who resent the idea of having a race company. Enter what they felt was an exclusive field. They could see what a huge deal it was. I've got one of their first press ads here for may nineteen twenty one. Ask your dealer for black swan records. The only phonograph company owned and controlled by colored people using exclusively negro voices and musicians said the only records using exclusive negro voices and musicians. And yes that was. That was a A slogan and if i remember full wants the fashion clothes. Stop for us by us. This was the nineteen twenties version. Just keeping all stockholders are colored. All artists are colored own employees are colored. And what did they release. What was their first record. Okay it's it's more opera and i expected. Well it's this is classic talented tenth stuff uplift the race by trying to encourage people to listen to better music quality music. Black swan material is boring and to be honest. Because it's just this toity white light classical crap. But i get why he recorded it because the idea is to show that that black people could do that. So add on and comes out and harry releases a couple of classical records. How did these do did anyone by them. I mean they sound only six hundred seventy four dollars and sixty four cents records. Wow so sort of level. They're not going to survive too long so now he has the figure out. What is he going to do. This is one of the many moments we wish we could get in. Harry pays his head but we can't. There are no journal entries. There's no letters to go to but we can't say that probably hit him pretty hard like we had a stubborn will but we also know that when he met failure at other times in his life. It really rocked him. Does a short account from a writer name mira stewart who apparently new pace personally and he describes a moment after atlanta university. A win harry was working on beale street trying to start a magazine with wbz boys. It failed and as he describes it. Harry looked out the window. In quote there was the mississippi river swift. And deep at the foot of beale street and according to this rider pays very seriously considered throwing himself in committing suicide. And maybe that's how he felt at this point but then a very lucky break that would change him and american music forever. Can you describe the moment. Where all of the fortune changes. So harry pace trying to figure out what they're doing is nineteen twenty. One harry walks into a bar called edmonds seller in harlem. It's the spot. This place is small. Maybe hundred fifty hundred and seventy five on a good day but on that night. These folks are jammed in elbow to elbow. They'd all come to see this one hotshot twenty one year old and you imagine just a very tight spotlight on her job exit easy call shake and she is shake that so full of life some artist you listen to them. You can have light conversation and the backtra but when ethel water seems stop doing this. She is the oxygen the room while the all young harry is spellbound i come along in that era. I was working in nightclubs. That laugh hers. Willie rough got a chance to interview. Ethel letters about those early days. I can't tell you what a thrill it is for me. These forty five years later to hear her voice. The comment end sweet. Mama string beans sweet. Mama string bean. That's because i was so thin and you got it before you started in in show business. Yeah but i was awfully. That was one of the things. Stop grieving over. Because i was always a tall child. She was tall elegant pretty. She could dance in. Youtube is a good dancer did the shimmy buzzard low the charleston. Of course back that thing up. She knew how to back that thing up. Ethel waters white one of those entertainers. I wish i would have been alive to see her on stayed. She can get something across. I could sing dance talking. Missile laughing make you cry. Make you laugh and make you crack to me baby. I got tell the story when i say thing. I'm envisioning a picture. And i'm trying to paint that picture for you to see. I want to see what asu now in terms of. What did harry seat walked into edmonds and saw her. It's interesting to imagine because on the one hand other waters is as unpaid as you say. Look you know. I grew up by four. I knew how to curse like a sailor. I new junkies. I knew sex workers author randall jokes. She's a women of the of the streets So to speak perhaps he also saw something in her. That was in him. It was a peculiar sensation. This double consciousness the sense of always looking at oneself through the eyes of others. She understood the use of masks. This is writer. Margo jefferson the love of and the absolute immersion as if it was her birthright in masquerade and disguise ethel was a chameleon he played with styles. Doing what you might call vocal black-faced vocal whiteface can you. Can you give us an example of that. What does that mean. Well you can hear that good question in the for example i come you. I can't give you anything but love being the first verse. She sings with what we might. Call me whiteface gusto. I can't you know and you can just here having a wonderful amused time with i kant give you anything. Not then you second verse. She drops her voice. She finds bessie smith. You know much little brace note. Start going into balloon. O- the phrasing changes so you. Can you can hear the two. Oh my god. When harry star at the bar it must have been like. Oh you're the person. I've been looking into it all off in between harry. Or maybe one of his associates elbows wage of the front of the room. Where ethel is lounging by the piano. I will will you do me a favor. Let's say i can't think of his name. He was a very nice man and a very intelligent man coded man and he said there's a colored company. They said the black swan records. He said why the black swan is starting out. And that was pace in hand it texture space and and i knew both of them were mr page from memphis tennessee when he was in the insurance business and i knew handy when they and they was in the music publishing business because you had to get permission from him to sing the saint louis blues but i knew and they had this little office on one hundred and thirty nine th street in the basement so he said just go there and talk so the i i make employment to go with him down in the basement to where the office was very nice place and very dignified because i was from the outside tracks but it was a colored with earth but we still had lines of distinction. Still do so. Mr room pace was the opposite. Very nice for any man. Any how the result was they said. Would i be interested in making a test recording so we went to a place in jersey. That was when they was singing to horns with this before the invention of the microphone. You and i are talking with good microphones. They had to do that in the recording. Studio with a megaphone. They'd have these horns dropped down tubas and bass horns and things like that you know and that dominated as the story goes harry. Ethel harry's arranger fletcher henderson. Get into a discussion about what ethel's going to sing. Do we do more classical concert. You know elevating lead kinda music or do we go popular. No-doubt harry was like. Can you do some opera. But it seems like what happened is ethel said no. We're going to do popular and you're gonna pay me a hundred dollars which was three times what she was making it edmonds and so when in this little house studio it was little hot route and i sang down home. Blues on that day was that he was not up and he's got that note that always make me so when they put it out. It was an instant sensation in an absolutely massive. It was a big hit and he got patient at the black swan records off the she says that recording got them off the hip and put them on the map. make me down just completely transformed. It was nice been got that don't mean i can't be the success of down on blues. Were so big to catch on to the press again in the game profound because up napping look he sold five hundred thousand copies of donald lewis in six months. Probably a bit of an exaggeration wiping it up for all these works pretty gives up finger. But it's hard to appreciate you know music of the past. Kim sound really far away. It's hard to appreciate. What an atomic bomb ethel was. You could argue that. From this moment forward she became. The first crossover artist in american history to is beyond before beyond right. I mean she was she. She was on stage. He was in the movies. She was a recording star. So she's a superstar as soon as ethel hit. Harry basically doesn't one eighty from two blues and he starts spitting out press releases full of lies just to stoke the hype so this was dated december twenty four th christmas eve. Nineteen twenty one in my newspaper. The chicago defender. How i love that paper. Ethel must not marry signed contract for big salary providing she does not marry within a year. That's the this is. this is the contract. Ethel waters has signed a unique contract with harry h pace which stipulates that she is not to marry for at least a year and that during this period she is to devote her time largely to singing for black swan records. It was due to numerous offers of marriage. Many of her suitors suggesting that she give up her professional life at once for domesticity that mr pace was prompted to make this step side note. Ethel waters was openly relationship with a woman Harry would have known this she was dating another woman named ethel a dancer and they were famous in harlem for getting into screaming matches in the streets new york age on the must not marry contract but she played along upon receipt of these documents. Miss waters is reported to have smiled in prominently. Attached her signature to the contract was returned to new york without delay. Mr waters contract makes her now the highest salaried colored star in the country. There is no diminution in the number of perspective swings. Swain's where we should bring back information as to the effect that there is no diminution the number of perspective swain's however and each city visited ads. It's quoted list of raising seconds. She must have felt amazing. This is in the newspaper. Oh my god. Yeah everybody's famously aroused by you. In any case only a few months after that big hit after ethel signs a contract. Harry was getting the tour underway. They stark touring as black swan records. I mean we'll later see motown records. Do this stacks records do this. You know bad boy records do this all of the record labels that come later in terms of black owned for black votes they they take the same model. The tour actually kicks off in washington. Dc though member. Seventeen thousand nine hundred twenty. One paul spent months scouring old newspapers to put together the only full account that we know of of this tour started in washington then philadelphia played new york little later it was baltimore. Spent a long time touring around small towns in ohio. Paul says that i. They played little nickelodeon and black run theater. Cincinnati little rock. Athol would always headline. She was the big star lower down the bill. Ab comedian Bats in all along the way. It's like one of those adventure movies. Superheroes just keep making cameos like that just keeps happening for example in new orleans. Louis armstrong on this tour on this i am ultimately. That's the mating. Let's louis armstrong joining inventing swing music. Oh my louis. Armstrong was an unknown young trumpeter. Louis also in the early days. Jack johnson one of the greatest fighting machines in the history of boxing. Jack johnson was the first heavyweight boxing champion in america. Maybe the most famous person in the country at that point and he was the reason for that phrase. Great white hope white people hated that he was so good kept throwing up challenger after challenger beat them johnson russia's in lands uppercut three left a tremendous barrage of budget apparently on the tour. He do little comedy skits refreshed to tell just how i am not out so many of my phone and tell stories. He moves on athol at one point that she brushed evil. Speaking of ethel tonight miss water then the to be here. Another thing that happens is ethel waters appears on this new thing called the radio. He a few songs just hearing trumpets blow so that makes her the first black woman to ever seen on. Us radio i was first and i was the first person present for having. That voice transmitted across. The airwaves was extremely significant. Let me get back on track as the tool and gallons pools apple was determined that they should play dates in the south because our argument was all records sold for black swan. All that music originates from the south. We have a responsibility to let the people hear us players. As soon as she suggests this four members of the band they quit. They weren't going down south you gotta lynching going on. You got clear. Jim and jane crow going on but the said she wouldn't perform unless they did. They went south january february. Nineteen twenty two. This is the second leg of the tool. Cincinnati memphis pine. Buff little rock arkansas. So many ways nashville chattanooga ethel waters in the folks who were on this tour of south carolina. These artists felt that they were active. Paris texas texas waco texas dallas. That black people not only can excel but we have to come in peace. We literally come in peace. But that's not always what they found for example macon georgia moments before they show up to perform at the douglass theatre as a white race riot. Essentially in michael a young black man had been accused of attacking a white police officer a white mob then invaded the black section of town searched homes. Trash businesses eventually found. The man shot him hundreds of times tied him to a tree and then lit a fire his feet. They then take the body they throw into the back of a truck and i drive into the centre of macon's black neighborhood which is where this theater to the douglass theatre is a knife depending on what you can't you believe they either throw the body actually into the lobby but the make on or they throw it up against his main entrance. I play macon georgia. Here's ethel remembering that moment many years later and i got there just a few. They had this removed. Say about a half hour. Before i got there the remains of a person that had been lynched. A man that had been lynched. And you never sense the paul that comes over it all. It was it. Was it it. just you feel that. You didn't see the tiniest lighter when the berlin writes the songs suppertime which is an anti lynching soul that cnc fueled performance. When when mr berlin was telling me about todd i only had to remember some slow able. 'cause that man of my a coming home no mall grief in any case i gotta say the fact that this tour even happened is kind of a miracle yeah absolutely has the troubadours toured through the south. Something surprising happened blocked. Swollen became quite a chic thing for people right at the top of white society. He says nouveau rich white. People started giving each other black swan as wedding gifts and harry started. Adding shows to the tour would often happen. Is that organized. What they go to midnight. Frolic off the main show on a friday or saturday night. It would star about eleven o'clock at night and would run properties in the back two or three in the morning and this would be a whites-only show is like the equivalent of brooklyn hipsters coming in slum one of the strangest most amazing details of the store is that at a few of these midnight shows for ethel waters big entrance. The election would kill the lights. Stage would suddenly be plunged into complete darkness. Ethel would then walk onto stage holding a giant japanese fan that covered her entire body and behind. The fan was for dress made of one hundred percent. Radium what you mean radium like the the element. The whole building is pitch black. And all you can say is apple onstage. He then nap sutter fan and what the crowd suddenly sees. Is this woman illuminated by the light of this radio address. You imagine the whole house. Just go crazy whose nineteen no one would have seen anything like that is crazy. On so many levels it was black. Swan records most incandescent moment but ultimately that that was the beginning of the end. Almost a wave cresting and breaking for thing was brilliant. It looked as if the company's good luck with never end. And then suddenly the white crash. An aggravating just went to chapter to the fall now it went in stages when harry got back from tour things. Were going great are gone extract here from one of his letters to the boys we were selling around seven thousand records a day and had three presses in the factory which could make six thousand records daily literally here selling records pastor mike them desperate to keep up he buys an entire record pressing plant in long island and then the white response backlash the white record. Owners got pretty pissed september. The fast nine hundred twenty two you got workers at the plot there shoveling coal into the furnace which house the plants and one of them discovers a three inch shell in the co they discovered bomb chicago defender september sixteenth nineteen twenty two at the black swan plant. Just where the bomb came from could not be ascertained. The officials of the company were alarmed. At first lester where the work of competitors. The daily news carried a picture of the bomb which was of unusually large size. Shallow gone into the furnace would have blown the whole place up. Yeah i haven't my hand. Your letter from harry paced the board of directors of black swan records. You're in the past few months. We have been the of attack from our competitors. The desire seems to be the we must be put out of business by any means fair or foul. The white labels had woken up and they were coming. After harry the white backlash it was clear then that there was profit to be made producing and distributing music for black people harry successive proven to the white companies. Oh there's a market here. Over twelve million colored people in the united states. There are millions of people who have money and don't want to buy minstrel songs so all of a sudden in the space of just a few months just about every record label. Every white-owned record label launches its own specialist race records. Imprint my dear doctor voisey's very dull for us. The white companies have everyone of them gone in for colored business teeth and toenail paramount comes along in august. Nine hundred and twenty two launches. Its own race. Label columbia is early as february. Nine hundred twenty three and the really big one was victim. August nine hundred twenty three causes serious slump in ourselves. Lots light suddenly discovering google facebook of decided to operate a case you another phase of oppression from which we are suffering is the attempt that is going on to wean away our singers from us and so the poaching begins trixie. Smith gets pulled away. Man rocks me with one fifty smith. We haven't talked about her yet. He was black artist. Coined the term rock rock and roll on this black swan release. She gets carol clock who recorded spirituals black swan and of course harry hit the roof very good news from the chicago defender. It says mr pace is advised by his attorneys. That another company has bribed certain dealers to damage the black swan records before selling them. To consumers with a view of making the consumer field the race product was sent out in that condition and to cause him to cease buying man. If i'm harry at this point i am hiring some thugs or the status low going on here. He's a gentleman he's gentleman he's thrashing his records making things even worse in the middle of all this. You get ethel waters an who gets pulled away as though astle no cattles side start appearing in one thousand nine hundred eighty three. This feels like the end of like scarface. Like harry in a room alone with a bunch of cocaine like big. And it's just not very pace like tony montana in scarface. He goes down ugly. First thing he does is he. Starts running ads in newspapers saying. Don't be deceived. don't be deceived. don't be deceived. Housing for colored has become popular says we established black swan records. Only genuine colored records. Harry would accuse white companies of passing for black. Every white photograph company is now issuing jim crow catalog of records here. He says they're uprising. A jim crow annex an offset the best of lust no alerts. This is desperate measures for desperate times. Harry at this point is in a bind where he desperately needs to do is to get some kind of black swan product on the market to fight back but the white companies had stolen all his stars. What is he going to do so he decides what he does is he does the exact opposite of what he's known for as accuses the white labels of passing he himself gets his hands on a bunch of unreleased music by white bands. Gets them through a white lawyer by the way and he changes the names not the music. Just the names. He takes white artists recordings and he passes them off as black mainly jones. For example she was really a watching code. Alien stanley henderson's dance orchestra. That would have been either the merrie melody man or landings roseland orchestra rudy. We'd offs californians. That's a german name. Leadoff became hanes harlem syncopated. I'm i'm really on the fence about the morality of this move. Is this a bad ass mover as this just like the opposite what it is is a premonition of things to come make a long story short just a few months after ethel waters records downhome blues and literally lights up the night in a radium dress. Peres basically broke. We are cramped now very seriously for cash. We're cutting down to the bone in every way. Although i personally put in large amounts of money and have used my personal credit to borrow more. Harry was forced to cut the price of black swans risks. That started off at a dollar. He had to cut them. I two eighty five cents. And then to seventy five cents. Eventually he's telling the whole bundle of disks and he's throwing in a free ten cents a pack of needles so what phonograph needles price is. There's just not much room for profit. Harry holds out for as long as he can but then ultimately chicago defender april nineteenth nineteen twenty four. He sells black swan paramount records. A white company white combinations of white businesses are frequent. It does not often occur where there's a combination of a white and a racial business is of more than local interests therefore to know the recent consolidation of the phonograph record business of the paramount a white organization and the black swan black swan records came went in just two years. But if you think about it think about what came before and what came after was he pretty gigantic domino to fall. Black swan really hastened the process of the white labels giving black artists the charts and it only needs to be a couple of years for robert johnson to have died before he ever recorded note. That processor been delayed just a couple of years. We'd have no rob johnson and with no robert johnson. Oh my god rolling stones and no eric clapton your magin. Once you tighten dot brick out you know the whole tyler starts to pretty shaky. I mean it's all historical speculation. Really here's what we'll say everything that we just told you about black swan and ethel and all the stuff. That's just the first part of harry story. This guy live five lifetimes at one and the craziest part is yet to come. Spiracy is threatened. My family threatened. Harry junior your father. They threatened joseph. Patty in the next episode. Harry's record roulette starts to spin out of control. You know so after basically after sixty years of of of battle you know. How many more years did he. Oh you right. How many more years did he. Oh that's on the next episode of the vanishing of harry pace. Vanishing harry pace was created by jaboomer. Auden schimmel the i and is presented as collaboration between off audio radio lab and radio diaries. The series is based on the book black swan blues the hard rise and brutal. All of america's first black owned record label by paul slade. We had original music from musician. Hania rainy her song. Buca off the seo. Our editorial advisors are jc. Lehman imani perry core jefferson and terrance. Mcknight jimmy floyd is our consulting producer. Our fact checker is not only need series artwork was created by casio harare and special. Thanks to nelly. giles ben. shapiro and joe richmond. Next episode is right on the heels of this. Thank you for listening. Radio lab was created by jet rod and edited by soren wheeler lulu miller and latiff nassar our co host. Susie lechtenberg is our executive producer. Dylan keefe is director of sound design. Our staff includes simon adler jeremy bloom. Becca bressler rachel david gable maria. Pass to tears. cindy unassembled. Them matt kilty anne. Mcewen alex newson sar cari aryan wack at wolters and molly webster with help from shema only setback corinne lil and candice wall. Our fact checkers are diane. Kelly and emily krieger.

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David Rubinger, Publisher of the Atlanta Business Chronicle on Capital Club Radio

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David Rubinger, Publisher of the Atlanta Business Chronicle on Capital Club Radio

"Broadcasting live from the pro business channel studios in atlanta georgia. It's time for capital club. Radio brought to you by flock specialty. Finance please welcome your host chairman and ceo. Michael flock morning. Welcome to happen cover radio. We're delighted today to interview and talk with one of the celebrities in the atlanta journalism. circles David ruben jer. Who's currently the publisher of the atlanta business. Chronicle of i think it's probably the leading commercial journal in atlanta and one of the most successful in the united states David worked here. Interestingly in as editor in the nineteen nineties The prior to becoming publisher david had founded his own. Pr firm. He ran corporate communications for equifax and headed the corporate media relations for ketchum a global public relations agency but when david was running his own. Pr firm. and that's when i met david He focused on our may. The receivables management association of america and that was in the credit and collections industry. He currently serves on the boards of the metro. Atlanta chamber the atlanta convention and visitors bureau and emory university's center for ethics. So we're thrilled to have david here. Today thanks michael. Good good to see you again after all these years. Yeah it's been a decade. And i think Gosh time flies. And i think we playing golf at the atlanta country club. It was part of a conference. I think right and I just remember david though. I think you were a little stingy with the mulligans. I think it was very true. So i think we need to have another round. Sounds both the probably improve since then. The pandemic did a lot for everyone's golf game a little bit. Yeah yeah so anyway. One of the objectives on our podcast is to try to connect the dots of our guests To see the intersection between the personal and professional journeys that were on and what were some of the lessons learned in some of the maybe challenges that we met along the way so david. Let's start at the beginning. If you would write an autobiography how would you start it Well i i. The autobiography would would talk about Family it would talk about the ability to Connect with Not only people in the business community but people in like broader communities and how those those relationships and being surrounded by really smart interesting people help move me along in my career And when i knew that was going to get a question about my autobiography you know you tend to think back on what happened by life and it was just it's been really interesting A lot of interesting twists and turns in my life that have led me to where i am today and I'm really happy with how the journeys gone so far. So as a kid though i mean what are your passions i mean. Will you really into you know corporations you probably. I wasn't into public relations. Public relations was an outgrowth of journalism for me. So so little background is i grew up in manhattan My parents were a voracious readers of the new york times so every morning the new york times come to the door and You know as a kid. I would grab it and go and go immediately to the sports pages and flip through it and then the i was always excited to get the new york. Daily news read the comics. And all those things but there was something about Reading the newspaper that that gave me the sense of understanding what was going on the world. i was also a kid who grew up during the age of watergate. Right so for me as a about see eight nine years old at the time. walking what was going on in our government and how the media interacted with the political system to me even at a young age like that sort of fascinated me. Because it's where. I was getting all my information from whether it's from television or from reading a newspaper and that sort of brought was my first experience and understanding the role of the media in our greater society in in terms of business and politics and sports in the role that media played in it and that's been sort of the string. That's that's been a constant all the way through is the role that media plays in helping us understand what's going on in the world and today of course it's gotten so much more complicated right Do you feel. It's gotten a little more political since those days or i think it's just as political was back then. I think what's different is. The delivery mechanisms have gotten to be so much more complicated Back then you had three networks. You had certain newspapers. It was a very static sort of way of getting information. You chose the information you wanted. You're either a cronkite guy at chancellor guy brinkley guy. You had your place that you went now. Because of the internet and the ability for podcasts and blogs and all these other ways of delivering information there are so many divergent channel kennels and ways of getting information and opinions that It is it is really blown things out. But i think that's always been part of american society. I mean you go back to the eighteenth century okay and the seventeen hundreds. You had your town. Criers in the park. And there'd be a town crier on every corner yelling out their political opinion that's no different run the blogging that we have going on today so it's just a question of howard delivering the information. Human beings haven't changed much. We're just have all found new ways to sort of get. Our message is out in the end. The megaphones of change so some media a changed the media the media and the delivery mechanism. Yeah right but it. That's that was the start it was you know being born and raised in new york city. was also a really fertile playground for young kid to to grow run and get different interests and i was always fascinated by people and meeting people and It was just. It was just a fun. It was a fun way to sort of to to lead to my craft but growing up than did you have any dreams of running a newspaper did you. Did you edit your college ear booker now. I wanted to be. I wanted to be tom seaver. I wanted to be a starting pitcher for the new york mets. That was my dream is there was there was nothing there was no and then after that once i took up tennis i thought i could parallel john mcenroe. 'cause he went to my high school so i thought i could go com mcenroe. When i realized i couldn't do that i moved on right The the bug for journalism really came in high school. I was an editor of of my high school paper and then in college. I was the editor of the college paper. Okay and did start. then i did. I did and but to me. Journalism and writing and working at the newspaper was away for me improve my communication and writing skills in class. I wasn't okay writer I was not a great writer. But i had an english professor. Say say you know you really should go to the newspaper because the newspaper you're going to have to learn to write and succinct ration to get your point across. I think that will help you. And you're writing your and your term papers and it really changed my ability to communicate Writing in what they call the inverted pyramid form of writing the most important facts down to the bottom right so yeah. I was the editor of the college paper. I interned. I've been hartford. Connecticut at trinity then worked at the hartford current. Which is the daily newspaper in hartford. For two years while i was in college and got to learn a newsroom and that got the bug and i thought i was going to be a political writer. Because that's what i was. My interest were primarily politics. But i also knew that I wanted to move back to new york city so getting a job covering york. Politics is not what you get when you come out of college. What was an opportunity in the late. Eighties was to be a business writer. So i was able to start off my career new york as a business writer and editor for mcgraw hill. Which back then was the grand poobah of business worse journalism with all the trade publications they had and standard and poor's so That's where it got my start covering the markets for For mcgraw hill and it was a great way for me to learn the business. And i'd say that the last thirty some odd years that i've been in business it's been a constant nba. I've i've never got an mba. Because all i'm doing is talking to people like you. Who taught me things if taught me about business about leadership and about finance and about marketing. So i've always feel like i'm constantly getting an education from all the interesting people i get to run across. Well you know you mentioned earlier That you got into networking developing relationships. And what's interesting is you kind of transitioned into to media and writing editing. Which is another kinda channel to developing that network So do you find out still the case now. That you're a publisher. I don't edit in ending right as much as i used to ride. Hope to get back to it. At some point matter of fact. I've been thinking i've been working on some ideas that i'd like to have the publication. I'm now running the business and by running. The business set means Editorial reports to me advertising reports to me are events program reports into us our circulation. Anything having to do with the businesses my responsibility he'll central up of but part of a big company Atlanta business chronicle is one of forty four business kernels on by american city. Business journals headquartered in charlotte north carolina. They in turn are owned by advanced publishing. Which is the newhouse family. So we're part of a media organization. Atlanta is the the largest business journal in the company and so a lot of eyeballs are looking at atlanta from our company to see how we do okay and you set the tone you set the pace the vision we try. We'll try to we try to. I mean i think it's It's i think a lot of really talented Publishers and editors and executives in this company who help us figure out. What's the next great thing for us to do. But this business model is really interesting. Because i feel like it's a laboratory. It's a nonstop laboratory. Were always experimenting about what you as a reader want from what we produce and it changes every day and we monitor every day to make sure we understand what is the type of content that our reader is looking for so that they can grow their business or themselves personally and it's fascinating that over the thirty years that i've been around. Atlanta business chronicle and different ways of our mission hasn't changed. What does that mission. The mission is to help a business or a business person grow. Okay that's what it's all about. Okay it's all about. What do we do. What kind of information can we give you. Michael flock to help flock become a better company. Right It might be a real estate story. It might be a healthcare story. It might be a technology story. But if it's scott information in there that you feel you can take away from and say that's going to help me do my job better than we've achieved our goal. Okay and but don't you have two sets of clients customers. One is the consumer right the reader right and also the pr executives of the firms. Also that you're trying to help promote is that right or not Not not really. I cater to my reader. Okay first and foremost okay because the reader is my ultimate consumer right. My advertiser wants to be a part of our medium right because we attract those readers. So it's very important for me to keep use the term church in state but you gotta keep those two things divided to maintain the integrity of the product so that advertisers feel like the. They're not right that there's a attractiveness chronicle because you've got a vast of readers who are looking for independent information okay so So the the the the biggest issue is an ally in the media. It's happened all over. The country is that Oftentimes the media is paid. Play in easier words In order for you to get into the publication as a subject of an article You have to buy an average yet to buy advertising it. We don't work that way because our readers to sophisticated and they know they can tell when something is simply at pay to play run exercise. We have sponsored content. You can buy something and put continent. But if it's a story written by one of our writers or editors it is an independent piece is not influenced by our advertisers because that's what good journalism is. Let's jump now to cbo's management association where you were the kind of head of media communications that many of our listeners to the flock podcasts are from that industry. I everybody i miss you. You were there in. What the so. I i left equifax in two thousand and eight and from two thousand eight to two thousand fifteen. I had my own firm right. And one of my first clients was it was then known as da international. Now it's army international. And i was brought in to help Help position the industry with Business media around you know the various issues. I helped tell all the positive stories about what was going on the debt buying industry I also tried to explain that. There were good actors and bad actors in any industry and oftentimes the media would focus on the bad actors. It was my job to bring them back to the important important role that debt buyers front and debt collectors paid in our credit system and luckily coming out of equifax. i had the knowledge base of understanding. How our credit economy worked on 'cause most pr professionals didn't have that base. So i was able to help articulate that pretty well with The wall street journal and and and bloomberg and other major outlets to help tell the story. They didn't always by the story but they at least i felt like i was a credible voice in helping. Explain it yeah. And sometimes it's difficult because at industry i think has a mixed reputation. Put it nicely on. How did you done as head of media communications position receivables management industry to the To the the broader media. Because it's not easy. It has a stigma. I don't think it's always fair but in the media world that you were working in how. How did you position what was how did you brand at. How did you provide kind of the thought leadership behind the media communications that you're managing well I frankly i listened very carefully to you and other people who are the on the board of dpa international at the time. I listen to people like bob. Sins lee and bob belair richmond row and stacey schachter and all these people who lived in this industry and i paid very close attention to what how they explained the value proposition. Not just to a business. But to the consumer about wives important to have a bad debt be bought and then resold because it put money back into the economy so that they could that could keep on lending right otherwise banks fast. Write it off. They're going to increase the cost of of of the credit and it becomes more expensive for the consumer in the long run. That's a hard story to tell because it seems very removed i think for most of us we just think that debt collectors are bad actors but at the end of the day. If those debts aren't somehow dealt with the bank can't make the loans they made before and they ended up lending less It so it was. It was always uphill battle We were never gonna win the war I think you said you had a win. Little battles one by one. The key was to take the personality out of it and really try to explain the structure because when she got into the personality piece because it was very easy to bring in who the bad actors for a lot of people who run who thrive on the emotion of of the negativity around data collecting The key was to say this is part of the process. It's part of our economic system and it's not illegal into strictly what what needs to be done so we keep our credit economy going on and today. We're looking at a credit economy. That's as healthy as it's been in my lifetime and You know there seems like all that credit education that's gone on over. The last twenty years is finally starting to take root and people are starting to their bills on time So i think we're in a better place than we were back in two thousand eight. Yeah no i agree with you and you know we laughed. We say that collections. People collections aren't really doing god's work and in the past. I think that many of the cowboys industry were the ones that drove the headlines and then the cfpb was created. And i think that kinda change the I think actually made it more stable more ethical. And i mean at the time the c. p. by your industry and i my prior employer equifax known was very excited about having a having a be regulated right. No one in in. Enterprise wants to be regulated. Sometimes a little regulation goes a long way as long as it's properly monitored and see if pb despite some of the some of the sword battles that went on within the industry Probably helped stabilize things a little bit. i'm sure that could be arguments made on both sides of that but It definitely Help stabilize quite a bit and listen to the. Us credit economy is a fascinating story in and of itself The fact that we can have this ability for consumers to be able to access credit on a credit card and be able to Live the life styles they want within within reason has been a very interesting part of our overall economic system that i don't think we give them to out think there's enough credit given to how how successful it's been making america what it is today definitely so david you've of move back and forth between corporate entrepreneur. 'cause you had your own pr firm But you were working with corporations obviously equifax and then catch him So what are some of the lessons learned. How was that transition. You may cause it. Was you know entrepreneur. Corporate to procure what lessons learned. Were there and whether the same right with different Lessons learned so first of all. The first step was leaving journalism to go into public relations. Okay that was a big step in my life. Because when you're a journalist you maintain this degree of independence when you move to public relations. You're now being paid by corporations to help represent their interests very different mindset. I wrap my head around that first and that was a pretty comfortable transition from. I felt like us again as i said earlier on that it's all about. I love my continuing education process. I felt like. I learned as much as i could learn as a journalist now is gonna learn as a practitioner of of pr consulting. It was my next step. In the journey. The movement tech facts was with worn out of the fact that working at ketchum i was becoming soda of a minor league expert in the world of the credit economy. So now i could grow more by becoming a having an expertise understanding how a credit report is built understanding. How disputes are done understanding. How money is lent. And what shows up on a credit for. Not many people know that. So i felt like again. It was part of my education process. Right then i went on my own. Which was exciting side. Never run my own business before and that was just an exciting time of my life. My kids were young My wife Hetty is of successful partner at a major law firm here in town. It was an opportunity for me to be home more with my kids and business Which was so exciting is loved that and i thought that was gonna do for the rest of my career. I really didn't see moving on from that. But in two thousand fifteen atlanta business chronicle I reconnected with atlanta. Business chronicle my predecessor at baker retired and they were looking for a publisher. I didn't know if i wanted to get into back into the media business. It'd change so radically. I mean when i was there originally it was a newspaper right now. It's now it's this. Multimedia platform The role the publishers came So i wasn't really sure. I wanted to come back but i looks in the mirror. Deep down my own heart and realized that the business chronicle is such a big part of who i was when i moved to atlanta back way back then that coming back to it really felt natural. And it's been a great five years it's really been fascinating Again part of the education continues it just keeps on going. It hasn't stopped and yeah. I'm excited every day. That i go to work there. You know a lot of our audience You know they've been in receivables management. Some of them of course are entrepreneurs and their lives. Their journey through their careers is never a straight line is always bumps along the road. Can you share with us. Some of some of your adverse experiences and how you dealt with them sure Some of the some of the the adverse experience that sticks with the most is more about life and death thing than anything else back in one thousand nine hundred eighty two A reporter who i worked with at the business chronicle passed away in a car accident and i was at that point. Twenty six twenty seven years. Old and i felt so on top of the world her death and what the impact it had on me and everybody else at the business chronicle at the time was so powerful that it really changed my outlook on The seize the day mentality of like you know. It's life is too precious. You really need to stay focused on what's most important in your life and and stay in keepdriving in that direction and don't take any of it for granted So that that's me was something we all carpet him. It was definitely a carpet. Diem moment for me and ask that one has stuck with me throughout my life In terms of other challenges you know learning to control what you can control. When i was working at equifax i had to deal with some awful crises for the company and knowing that maintaining my own emotional equilibrium Understanding that i can only control as much as i can. I can't necessarily change the way everyone looks at this company but stay focused on short-term objectives on quick wins Those are the kind of things Other other bumps along the road They're having been too many bumps. I think maintaining the work life balance with my having ford growing four children at home and being a good husband while trying to also be a successful business person as always been paramount to me. Because i've seen too many friends Have struggles in their personal relationships. I've got to put that piece. I always because they're going to be no matter what happens in my career. They're always going to be with me to the end of the day That's always been the most critical pieces to make sure that i keep that part as smooth as possible all the way through you know as we get to know people. I think one indication of who they are what their passions are is revealed in the books that they like to read. What is one of your favorite books. You read in the last few Of last few years. I was gonna say it was on my nightstand right now. Okay so there's a book on my nightstand right now. That i just got It's called a course called america by tom. Coyne and it's a series of vignettes About golf courses all over the united states. I'm gonna go. We're both golfer audio and to me. It's my great escape. it's a way for me to sort of relax. Relax and read interesting stories about about interesting places so it's less about the golf more about the communities where the golf courses are and it's really been a fun read and what i like about. It is when i go at. I read all day. And when i go and i get in bed at night and i i only like to read for like reading short little snippets. I don't caught up an entire book at night. So that's been a fun one. I i usually am a nonfiction person Again it goes back to since. I was a kid type of reading. I always liked to do was biographies of of interesting. and famous. people It's back to your networking. It will go with those are the kind of networking and directly. So if. I'm reading a book. About abraham lincoln or teddy roosevelt or I remember as a kid. Reading a book about w c handy. The trumpet player. You know This little these books. That i always enjoyed reading because i always got myself from the use of other famous people right. I think that was some of the things that glomming onto journalism is loved reading these stories about how other people tick right well. We started our conversation this morning with how you start your autobiography. How would you write your obituary. Oh my gosh. How depressing actually. It's really funny. Because i find that the the the people who get to write the obituary from the new york times had some of the most fascinating jobs in the journalism. Business to candid so The obituary i hope the obituary would would talk about this a lot about this path that we're journalism was played such an interesting path the new yorker and me now the southerner and me But really the fact that had he. And i have been able to raise four amazing kids who are all doing great in life To me is just feels really good. Because that's the stuff you can't ever predict right you. You hope it's going to work out but it You can't ever predict that he's so yeah. New yorker turned southerner. Journalists turned entrepreneur turned publisher. Dad husband lover of atlanta atlanta. Great since interesting for someone who grew up in manhattan right. Why celebre in hatton has a great city. I love going back to visit. My mom still lives there. And i got a son who lives there now but i really. I've really adopted atlanta and a special way it's got a certain quality to it. i've gotten to see and you're you're in the same boat as i am. I mean since we moved here to see how much atlanta has evolved as city Especially since the olympics how diverse it's become how progressive. It's become how it has really glommed onto. Its its roots as civil rights cornerstone for america. How much we still have to learn member this education process. It's not just about business. I think we're all having to learn a lot about our own personal education about dealing with issues of equity race. The business chronicle has changed tremendously in the last year in addressing the equity in race. And i'm so proud of what the newsroom and what we've all done to try to take care of things. Because thirty years ago you would rarely see women or minorities in the business chronicle. We were a white man's publication. There's no question about it and now there's been this intentional. Look at making sure we are really representing the entire business community not simply the ones of the majority That live in buckhead In three or three to seven. We've really tried to get ourselves. Diversify their and does that. Make the most amount of business since me not short term but long term it does because that's how our city is evolving. So i've really had fun watching the patchwork of atlanta evolve over time and it's it's really a it's been fun. It's really fun to be a part of that. So finally david what's next for you. What are the next steps for david. Jer right now next is making it through this year. i wanna make sure that you know. We finished strong my jobs keep. My team focused on creating the best content delivering on her numbers for a company I think we're at a because we re positioned ourselves in such an interesting way. I think business chronicle has an opportunity for a lot of really cool growth in the next twenty four months. So i'm looking at. That's my horizon right now is really the next two years to see where the chronicle can go for me personally Were adapting to being empty. Nesters my kids. My daughter lawyer. My son's in advertising in new york and got twins in college. My wife and i get to know each other again as empty. Nesters looking forward to To this next stage of life both have thriving careers. So i don't think he is looking to hang it up anytime soon. And having the chronicle as as my base to do all these things is is. I think the best job in journalism I don't think you could find a better place to be in terms of being to be a part of a community contributing runway and still have a fun career That's wonderful david. Well thank you for sharing this very thoughtful journey that you've been on in the world of journalism both how it is today and what i think you think it will become tomorrow which i think you're going to have a big impact on here in atlanta so really appreciate you participating with us today and congratulations to you. I mean it's really been fun to see flock do as well as a has and how you've thrived through all this that's gone on in the marketplace. You you really have a special place in their civil manson's business that a lot of that is very unique and you've really done a great job building your own brand even doing a podcast from out sake. It's not the kind of thing that's the norm. You're willing to always take it in a different direction and that That's what i told people when i had my firm that need to. You need to find ways to help differentiate yourself so that people remember you remember what you stand for. And that's great for you and for your company. So our congratulations to you tonight. I'm a believer in branding. Marketing as a differentiator. So anyway david. Thanks again for being with us on capital radio today. I think the lessons learned that you share with us along your wonderful journey and Journalism of and outstanding fascinating and So we look forward to david's next Show with us. I think we'll have some more tales of his success and challenges in the world journalism here in atlanta great really a business chronicle. While you're at all right thanks david. Thank you for joining michael flock and his guests on the capital club. Radio show for more information on future interviews. Please visit us at flock. Finance dot com program is brought to you by flock. Specialty finance where clients are provided knowledge and insights to grow their business in complex and risky markets. Flock is more than a transaction.

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Bonus: The Vanishing of Harry Pace

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Bonus: The Vanishing of Harry Pace

"Support for npr and the following message. Come from feather furniture. And so that makes any floor plan feel like get comfy curated furniture for as long as you need visit live feathered dot com and use promo code. Npr two hundred at checkout feather furniture. Magic is here. Hey everyone hope. Your summer is off to a good start. The next of our capitalism series drops in just a few days. But in the meantime we have a special treat for you. It's an episode from our friends over at radio app from their new series. The vanishing of harry pace harry pace founded the first major black owned record label. In the us assuring in a wave of american music. But it's also a mystery story. Because one day harry piece just disappeared and before we start the episode. We actually got a chance to sit down and talk to the host of the series who also hosted dolly parton america. You might have heard of them before. She molding co. cater of the vanishing of harry pace whom rod cook reader of the finishing your pace and hosted radio lab the friday. The first question we have is given it asking you did Dahlie pardons america which is obviously about someone who's really well no wifi. Why then the move to someone. Like harry pace. Oh it's interesting when we look at music stories One of the people that we interviewed for delhi parnes america wrote to us and he said i really think you guys should look at this story and so jadan i started Reading about it and then every kind of page turn in. The trajectory of harry's life was like you think you're on one page and then you're on the other and then something else happens. Every chapter was fully surprising. And at that moment it just felt like this is not only an amazing story filled with surprises. It's also a very complex story. It kind of breaks all the ideas we have of binary and which. We felt very attuned to Through the last episode and also through our own experiences as for generations americans and as Reporters so that was kind of the reason that we were really interested in this music story. At this moment numb it's like the inverse of dolly as a subject in so many ways and i don't just mean that like i don't mean that in a like any kind of racial sense but in the sense that dali's every single minute of her life from age ten until now has been lived in the media and this guy's voice we don't have his voice he's completely. He's completely vanished To us into history so it was a story toes. A really different challenge. We both love stories where you can see everything through a person in a life and this is one of those those guys in one of those lives where you see all of the complex craziness of america flowing through the single human being and And you just can't believe that a one guy could live a life. That is this epic and then completely vanish. Now i mean i think you both kind of to this in your answers but like the fact that he he has. Life doesn't fit into one category. Right like he is not just one thing and you know you are like romsey night. An arab iranian Arab iranian americans Which i don't think there's a ton of in video but you know i. I'm wondering what you wanted to convey Through harry pieces story about you. Know both the advantages and the dangers of not fitting into this country's racial categories of good question All sort of unwinded a bit. You know. I'm not sure that we wanted to convey anything explicitly so much as we just kind of got sucked into the wormhole of this world. And i think part of the gravity of the thing that pulled us into it was exactly what you're pointing at Which is as as middle eastern people living in a country that is extremely racialized and has a long history Behind that it sometimes can feel a little bit like you. You're kind of off the grid. You're kind of off the map. Like the mapping of america doesn't somehow include. You and i think every story that i've chased in the last five ten years has some element of that and and it's something that she might talk about a lot at the very beginning that the i don't wanna say we can relate to harry because it it it's a very different experience than either of us have had you know but there is something that is like a rhyme or something. There's some kind of like spooky a familiarity to it and so you can sometimes feel lost here and and and your identity shifts depending on what you're what room you're in and there is something about that. Fluidity that is. I mean harry sort of captures that One other kind of like craft question. I think we have is. You know there's a Saying about trying to pursue an ecstatic truth versus the truth of accountants and when you're dealing with historical storytelling especially one with so many twists and turns and facts. How did you approach kind of doing that. Storytelling of the you. Know giving the story in the facts but also trying to get to that kind of deeper truth of what harry pieces life in kind of tribulations and adventures means. That's a great question. I mean you know. I mean i i in a way harry paces like what we can say about him. Journalistically just like based on the facts is very little. There was a few entries paragraph it most in a couple of textbooks like he wasn't really on anyone's radar and we can't really say anything about his family. We don't have any journal entries where we can get in his head so it's like he. He kind of invites you to read into his life. By virtue of the fact that there isn't a lot information with the information you do have is really really intriguing and sometimes contradictory and so it felt important to us just as storytellers to sort of being really open with our audience. At like there's the stuff we can know. And then there's the stuff that we can only guess at and we're gonna guess i think. Also we were trying to embody the psychology of harry through his written works. Because we don't have enough from harry and of course we. We interviewed his descendants at length Several times over but yeah we kind of just tried to put the pieces together To to kind of get the emotion across of something that does feel so far away. We knew that that would be our biggest hurdle in telling the story. You know what it is Can i say one more point about this. I don't mean to belabor it will never have an official account of harry pace and you know it's like i kind of want in that sort of ouija board way to bring him to us in that way into this. This story is as much about that as it is about pure hard-nosed historical journalism when we come back episode one of the vanishing of harry pace from radio app support for comes from newman's own foundation working to nourish the common good by donating all profits from newman's own food products to charitable organizations that seek to make the world a better place. More information is available at newman's own foundation dot org before we start today's show. It's you know. This episode contains a few moments of content language. That might be Upsetting for sensitive listeners of young kids. Wait you're listening to radio lab radio from wnyc he hey. This is radio lab. I'm chad i'm rod really excited to To bring you a project. I've been working on with him. Only you. Me co creator of america. We jumped into quick dumped into perfect timing no This project runs for about a month and yes really excited. Let's do it starts off okay. So every family has a secret but some family secrets are bigger than others will start with eric. Pace the great grandson. My sister got me a job at this. Ymca camp two thousand six and we got a message from my dad saying we have a mandatory family meeting. You guys need to leave work to come in talk to us. Did he tell you what was up. He didn't give us any other information. he said. No you you gotta come to the family media. And i'll tell it every tally everything we thought like okay. This has got to be divorced. We told everybody at the job and they're like good luck with the meeting. You know this sounds really heavy. Really serious heena sister hop in the car cut them just like trying to hurry up and get there so we could see what it's all about three later. They walk into their childhood home in redding california and the whole family. Is there like eight of them. My dad tells us to go sit in the living room. And we're we're not a very formal kind of family and so that was that was strange. We're like okay. This is getting weirder. And we're and then. He holds up a picture that had been on her wall. Our whole lives. It was a really old picture. It's kind of the sepia tone guy in a pinstripe suit. Really good-looking but weary look on his face. Like being told to smile but he doesn't really want to smile and he says. Do you all know who this man is. We said yeah. That's your grandfather. Harry pace what did you know about harry pace at that point. I mean not much. This is susan pace granddaughter way. He was a lawyer a lawyer. We knew that peter pace grandson. We knew he lived in chicago and he lived in new york. He's the one who called the meeting. And i was told he was like talion. The notion was presented. That pace was an asian of paci. Paci italian they told me it means peace and sounds like Like peace cool you know. We grew up thinking. Maybe italian you put together a talian and lawyer so we thought maybe a lawyer for the mom. We just kinda make this stuff up in any case at the meeting. Peterson's everyone down our big. I told them. I said you know how. We've never really known anything about grandfather harry as well. We've discovered some interesting information about it. But he handed us. The packet is about ten pages long and so we'll started reading within like about thirty seconds. I was just like oh my god. Oh my god my goddess crazy can't believed this has been kept from us was it was really. You know there's just so shocking. Wow how could it even been a consideration that i wouldn't need to know this. What they discovered. Is that this man harry pace. Who's pictured been hanging on their wall. Their whole lives well first of all. He wasn't italian turns out that he was half an american. He was black. That's how identified. That's how it was seen. And he was someone who literally changed america. In like nineteen different ways music culture housing law. He proceeded to fight the case all the way to the supreme court of the united states. The decision opened five hundred properties to black resident he desegregated whole neighborhoods laid the groundwork for so much music like without him would have no rob johnson meets introduced myself. No rolling stones. And no eric clapton even had a hand in coining the term radical role. I mean this dudes could guide. Why why don't we have like three movies about this dude right. I mean you know. Hello ava rene right good god i mean this dude is like he is like the vocational macgyver but then somehow right at the peak of power. It's like tooth. He vanishes so completely that none of us know his story not even his own family. Wow so you're telling me where related to this. This unsung hero. And you want me to sit here and laugh about it. I i gotta go understand this for the next three episodes. We're going to dig into some of these questions. Who was the. Why did he disappear. And why did american let him. This is the vanishing of harry pace a mini series on radio app support for this podcast and the following message come from k. Bucks bound in support of the david gilkey and zaba ulitsa mono- memorial fund established to strengthen npr's commitment to training and protecting journalists in high risk environments. Now this was a tricky story to report intel. Where did you all get all this about him. He can be hard to research. Is their book about him. Deserve a single book. There's not a lot out there about harry. He's a hard guy. We don't have a voice. We barely have his words so to try to help us make sense of all this. We assembled an amazing team of collaborators. I'm jamie floyd turns. Mcknight perry laima or jefferson. You'll hear all of them along the way and i'll just say full disclosure one of the things that drew us to harry's story is he's the guy who just didn't fit the categories that the world offered him finish slips between the cracks and in a very different way. I say this cautiously feel like as middle eastern people that experience. There's something about it that makes sense. Sometimes it feels like people don't know how to see you think a lot of people have this experience in all kinds of ways. My parents say for example court. Filmmaker make her court jefferson. One of our collaborators. My parents tom tell the story about When i was about to putting me in front of a mirror with them and just sort of letting me take in the differences in in all of us in the fact that i that i neither looked entirely like my mother nor entirely like my father because they said that i asked what what am i what am i. I cannot remember a time when i was not aware of being different from everybody else. Sign up this is journalist. Jimmy floyd of our collaborators she runs. wnyc's race and justice unit. I mean everybody. I knew was either white or black. There was nobody else who was kind of coffee colored with an afro. Like me. And i mean coffee with milk and to this day i feel a lot blacker than i really am in my mind. I am really black. That doesn't mean my black friends and colleagues always siemian black and so it is complicated. Then when you step into the multi-race okay. So we'll get back to jamie and corden the family soon ish but we ground cover so i we're gonna take you on an audio roller coaster through what they discovered in those pages. Chapter one the rise he was born in eighteen. Eighty four eight eighty four in covington georgia georgia scholars. David sweetman and emmett price. Which is about thirty two miles east of atlanta very picturesque place That's been used for a lot of movies and tv shows like the dukes of hazzard was shot. There in the heat of the nine other films and tv shows that needed a good antebellum background remember. Stoller willie ruff every paste was was born. Just a few years after emancipation about thirty years. After the emancipation proclamation. His parents were slaves grandparents. Actually one of the things we know about here. We think we know is that his grandfather owned a plantation is raped one of his slaves. She had a child and that child was harry's grandfather which helps to tell us why harry himself was so fast which played quite a role throughout his life. This is journalist paul sleigh to our knowledge. He has written the only book. That's out there about harry. What do we know about harry's father and mother so we know that his father was named charles charles's blacksmith. We know that his dad died when he was really young. Five or six dad's gone. Mother is nancy francis pace and we think that a harry's mother was laundry so if that is true then we do know that the type of folks food laundry she would be doing would be of significant means hughes a single mom so no doubt he took harry around town with her as she was picking up laundry and dropping it off and so he was able to see a huge swath of people that most average kids wouldn't have access to it was probably pretty eye opening for him at a young age. Of course jefferson again. If no idea. But i just that. He probably saw people treat his mother pretty horribly as a servant as somebody who you dirty under things to my grandmother and grandfather domestic servants at a rich white man's estate in ohio. If you see or self as being part of the underclass I think that there's some some anger that develops with that. One of the things we do know about. Harry is later in his life. He would write a brutal revenge story through all these years. He had held his bitterness. This desire for revenge against those of his own blood who had cheated him out of the heritage and the life that properly belonged to him about a young mixed race kid like him who tracks down his white ancestors and kills them he thought of himself as being a special avenger of god an instrument to be used in bringing about punishment so yeah there might have been some anger there and any case by the time he's ten eleven hairy clearly excelled in latin. In greek. he played music. He sang at that point. It must have been pretty clear. Harry was a phenomenally bright kid and at the age of twelve. He is sent to atlanta university. Coupon who paid for it by the way From the brochures of the school. That i went through from that time. They had donations out solar. He got a scholarship. I mean atlanta university was despite what it was the intellectual mecca for black folks. I think i think the motto of atlanta university. I'll find a way or make one. How bosses that. What i'll find a way or make one watch me. Professor charles mckinney. Case to take us back to harry like what do we know about his life on campus. We know that when he gets to school. This cat was well-dressed. This dude is a handsome man. Is one picture you can find. Ways about seventeen dark jacket starched white collar cliff. The cropped hair wavy slight smirk teams. Say pleased with himself. All of the black young black women would have fell for. This do threader kaycee lehman. By the way he couldn't be the country boy that he was from covington his first few years. These things acapella in the choir to enter debate team writes for the school. Newspaper works his way through school. Working as a printer he was what was known as a printer's which is some kind of printshop. Job a printer's devil. Yeah a young boy. At or below the level of apprentice in printing establishment. Are you just getting it from the internet. Just just looked it up atlanta university. He finds out that the white printer's devil is making more money than him. What does he do he quits. He says enough of this. I refused to be treated in this manner okay. So he's printing singing. He's learning to advocate for himself all. That's just warm up. Because by far the most important thing that happens to him atlanta university with the most significant thing that happens to him there as not meets w. e. b. devoid william edward burgh. Art deploys one of the greatest thinkers america has ever produced in eighteen ninety seven i went to atlanta university in st this thirteen years making a systematic study of the american negro. It's fair to say that for the next twenty five years. There wasn't a book published on the negro problem that didn't have to depend upon what we were doing university. Well with two boys. I mean you know. He sort of who all of us black studies academics chasing because he's the ultimate like renaissance intellectual. A money perry. He's the father for american sociology. He's a novelist he's you know. One of the founders of the novel. icp also in nineteen zero three. He writes the souls a black folks. It was a peculiar sensation. Double consciousness we get his phrase of double consciousness. The sense of always looking at oneself through the eyes of others of measuring one sold by the tape of a world that looks on amused contempt and pity which is deep. When feels his tunis. The is the most critical work for black people steel steel and he published in one thousand nine hundred three many of us even if we have very different politics. We're all chasing voice. Had some voice in their in their government and trained men to lead them on that point of who would lead black america. It's exactly when harry steps foot on campus that the boys writes the following race. The negro race like all races is going to be saved by its exceptional men. The problem of education than among negroes must first of all deal with the talented tenth. Wbz boys coins and brings to life this idea the talented tenth scholar bill doggett african american negroes only thirty five years earlier. Sleighs could improve. Its lot in america by investing. In the town's intent the brightest the most intellectual of of the race certain rain invoice was an elitist. But his idea was. I wanna find people who can accomplish things that are so great that even the most bigoted white person can't deny it was almost a personification of that i think in the talented tenth paces number one. Okay if we were to magin then. Harry has just started their like what would have been the first interaction. Like harry pace would have heard about him but then when he sees him. The boys is like skin. So you can only imagine harry pace following this guy around trying to figure out what makes them tick easy to imagine that one day after class like. Excuse me mr two boys. I have a question and you see this has there. I mean if we think about star wars harry paced the paddle on you know to the eye master. Deploy strengh flow from the farce w. e. b. the boys more or less a harry he recruits hurry to helping with somebody who's own research projects he he i think gives harry. The father figure that is fatherless. Kid has never had knee. Also gives harry a whole outlook for to be a race man driven by a sense of service to to black people talented tenth that it's up to him to lift up the race double consciousness. It's up to him to see himself through the hostile white gays manipulate that gays for his own benefit. In fact later in his life he would give speeches about how important it is to use public opinion to make quality happen. Of course was how do you do that. How do you show white america. What black america's capable of that's after the break support for this podcast and the following message come from the american jewish world service working together for more than thirty years to build a more just and equitable world. Learn more at age. Aws dot org. Okay okay this is The vanishing of harry pace miniseries on radio lab episode one. That's jabber murad. I am glad you are. I'm shima only and we're here to people making a podcast. Let's do this story okay. So harry pace talented tenth or do boise and race man. that wants to uplift as he climbs. The question is how are you going to do it. And the answer. He comes up with through a roundabout series of events. Ends up creating this amazing thing that we're celebrating the one hundredth anniversary of pretty much right now but it begins at a bank so nine thousand nine hundred. Seven harry is working. At solvent bank on beale street in memphis. He taught latin and greek for a while. He tried to start a magazine and now he was working at a bank. Harry's their souls and thanks sitting at his desk and a man who turns out to be w c handy now handy father of the blues. Wc handle we now know as the father of the blues demand who really introduced blues music to america into the world. Enter my good fortune. This is handy feminine. Oral history to live for two years in the state of mississippi and here the crude singing edge of the negro down there harry would have known who w c handy was. Obviously i will have to talk about the mortgage business. mr andy. Police sign this form and that form estimating draws tour tonight and all the mortgage businesses completed. I imagine harry hesitating for a moment wondering do this. He might not like it. What's he going to say. should i show him. Our lyrics turns out. A harry been written some song lyrics that he probably the top drawer of his desk. He gets up. takes a deep breath. Need does show these. And andy rather likes them. Shortly after that meeting the get together and start writing songs. I he collaborated on harry with was called in the cotton fields of dixie. One of the most exciting moments in this series was. I finally found the sheet music for the song after much hunting. And jad jamie floyd and i ended up visiting. John mcwhirter at his home in queens john mcwhorter quarter and i teach linguistics and some other things at columbia university and in my off time such as it is. I am a great lover of music right now. I'm in a room where i believe. They're eight hundred and fifty broadway cast albums. He agreed to sight. Read the song for us and you sing in the field see is a monkey in the land. Where another tenor on. That's where it's written so there's not a good song. But that's what better than i thought it was gonna be grows on you doesn't it where your years and don't listen to the word about are struggling to understand. What are they trying to accomplish. Are they trying to advance a people. Oh they wanted to make some money. Today in this case was probably more handy than pace of the two of them. He was far more famous and far less political and he knew that these plantation songs they sold there wasn't a market for conscious sheet music back then and john. Who were they writing this song for. Good white people who want to hear about that wonderful period when everybody was so happy in the south and you would bring trixie and rebecca and uncle bill around the piano and everybody would sing along to it. And then they laugh and clap and then die of typhus. Or whatever. I can play this sing along with me. Oh sure. and so. Then oconee fields of dixie daryl southern home where the mocking birds saw that flosse. Okay we'll work and you come to harmony with me the holy. It is mine room where you that's what this was four and then on maj would bring some lemonade form of entertainment. That's all there. Was this particular song they wrote. It paid a guy fifty bucks to publish it and he ran off with their money which is comically something i don't know. Then they make another song called beale street blues. It sells pretty well and then. Suddenly they moved from memphis new york city when they moved to new york their goal is to set up shop in amongst all of the other ten pat alley so all white which are all white. Oh we're going to compete with everybody. Else show them. We have just as good if not better. Material problem is unsurprisingly. They run into a lot of a lot of racism. There are accounts of white music. Publishers literally costing them in the street now at this point the way that things worked was the sheet music was sold in dime stores and most of those stores were white owned so what pace in handy decided to do. Is they hired white. Piano players song plugger says they were called to go into those dime stores and demonstrate their music so this would this be like singing. We'd walk into a place and you grab a sheet music video. No wonder what the sounds like mr demonstrator. Can you play this for me. Then they'd they'd keyed out or miss demonstrator. They were often women some of them. It's so interesting to think about the sheet music passing for black or white just like you know like a person wrote this historian. elliot hurried. He says the strategy worked. You know that they're making all this money. I mentioned one thousand nine hundred eighteen nineteen twenty yellow dog blues. People love it. It sells huge. Numbers of recordings want one and then The big one sig louis blues be the most popular song of the twentieth century. It's recorded over two thousand times. Saint louis blues recordings by stevie. Wonder save louis not in col- louis armstrong see the beatles kids herbie hancock's people will be recording that for another hundred years so the product that these guys produced was immensely important and and spread all over the world and really helped american folklore and american styles and ways of thinking. It's through these two men primarily through pace and handy that this pervades permeates mainstream american society. So white people in ohio have their sheet music on the piano and they're playing at parties. People are buying recordings of their records in australia. In england eventually in in korea and in russia this is this is how america really invades the world. You're killing it absolutely killing it. But at the height of their success there is this sharp. Division handy is really stuck on the old way sheet music you know. He was eleven years older than harry. He liked how things were going back. Harry not wanted. He believes that records are the big new thing now records at this point just a few decades in but people were just starting to get into them. Pace was like let's do it handy. Said no so right at the peak of their popularity with barely any notice he quit. He wrote out he was like enough. I'm done harry. Pice bailed out with pace and handy. Harry also poached a good number of pace in handy stuff. Oh right away from the post room to the accounts department mostly people in their twenties. Do we have any idea how hand how handy how this hit him. Oh yeah what does he say. all n down and out he talks about. I was broken the bank and blind blind. How could pay do this to make kind of thing for harry. This was about more than just music remember paces a race man. He's got a mission he's a race man. The same way that do boys is race. Man harry pace is all about black. Pete of how do i up e list right. While i climb and in the record industry there was a lot more uplifting to do there then in sheet music because basically at three main white record companies and what they were releasing was entirely these really demeaning minstrel songs. All like me all coons look alike to me in the fanatic. Coon coon bill doggett again. He says it is impossible to overstate. Just how massive minstrels was at this point in time. The show is the via muth of american entertainment at the turn of the century. It is based on the demonization of blackness. You had white bands dressing up in black face singing outrageously racist songs based on overblown stereotypes. The watermelon the fried chicken the big lips and he told us about a songwriter. Bob cole black man who harry definitely would have known about what makes it. Even worse is when a song. This good john murtha mexican played us one cool song. This is robert cole. And so if you like me. You see under the bamboo tree and it's about a jungle person from multiple boo and it's in this dialect and jesus christ. The song is very catching. Bob cole had an issue with the coon song. All of the extremes hit a lot of trouble with that and so all of a sudden one day at leaves nineteen ten or nineteen eleven. He made a decision. I don't know if he was drunk or what. He walked into a lake and drowns. While here is the most successful black writer of his time per. i don't think it's an accidental drowning. So the idea that harry would want to move on from sheet music. This was the contacts. Write the white. Companies were releasing these minstrel songs. That's all they were doing. They were putting out circular platters of white supremacy in destroying lives in the process. And harry wanted to change that. And if handy didn't want to be involved with that their partnership was over. Harry pays obviously all the need he he i can't i mean this is performer ran giddings. Why are why are we neglecting all of this talent. You know i mean. That's the kind of insert rage to be honest. Like i mean. I can't speak for the man because i you know obviously dead but i i can only imagine that it would be rage. Inducing to put it mildly So i can only imagine that all got funneled into know. Let's do this ourselves. He understood that who banks records under. What conditions and to what effects really matters he understands. Those are political issues to him. This is not going to be a regular business now now. Hey stephanie saw as a social movement as much as purely commercial pace being a businessman he was went out and got funding for it. You got a board of directors with the boys and others on the board media. Historian tim brooks. How old is he. A harry would have been thirty six at the time the first question he had to consider what to call it. Well he wanted to call it something that spoke of black pride. Do you know who named it. I do for for several months at the end of one thousand nine hundred thousand eight. Harry was writing letters to w baidu boys the idea of calling the label. Black swan actually came from voice. He told harry before you were born. There used to be the singer. She's soprano so black swan. The name itself you know is named after an opera singer elizabeth taylor greenfield and now was her moniker. She was known as the black swan. The first concerts were eight hundred fifty one eight hundred fifty two debut in new york city curator. Doin dylan reese. She was brought out and staged and there was laughter. Audiences jarred and laughter. They couldn't make sense out of what they were hearing added that she had a magnificent voice looking back at this magical moment even in slavery days when a black woman could command as kind of attention so that that was very much in the air so in may of nineteen twenty one. Almost exactly one hundred years ago. Harry pace launches black swan. When he launches the company it is held in the black breasts. Chicago defender may seventh nineteen twenty one news of the completion of the first list of black swan records. Which are now ready for. Delivery will be received with great interest and enthusiasm by our people all over the united states when the announcement was made that company had been formed to manufacture phonograph records by artists. A great uproar was caused among white phonograph records companies who resent the idea of having a race company enter. What they felt was an exclusive field. They could see what a huge deal. It was one of their first press here from may nineteen twenty one. Ask your dealer for black swan records. The only phonograph company owned and controlled by colored people using exclusively negro voices and music said the only records using exclusively negro voices and musicians. And yes that was. That was a A slogan and if you remember full fobel fashion where uber closed for us by us. This was the one thousand nine hundred twenty s version. Just keeping all stockholders are colored. All artists are colored. All employees are colored. And what did they release. What was their first. Record bellevue's okay the fleet. It's it's more opera than i expected. Well it's this is classic talented ten stuff uplift the race by trying to encourage people to listen to better music. Quality music flex material is boring and to be honest. Because it's just the toity white blake classical crap. But i get why recorded because the idea is to show that black people could do that too so at incomes out and harry releases a couple other classical records. How did these do did anyone by them. I mean they still only six hundred seventy four dollars and sixty four cents records well sort of level. They're not going to survive too long now. He has to figure out. What is he going to. This is one of the many moments we wish we could get in harry his head but we can't. There are no journal entries. There's no letters to go to but we can't say that probably hit him pretty hard like we know he had a stubborn will but we also know that when he met failure at other times in his life. It really rocked. Him does a short account from a writer named marriage. Stewart apparently new pace personally and he describes a moment after atlanta university of win harry was working on beale street trying to start a magazine with wbz boys it failed and as he describes it. Harry looked out the window. In quote there was the mississippi river swift. And deep at the foot of beale street and according to this writer pace very seriously considered throwing himself in committing suicide. And maybe that's how he felt at this point but then a very lucky break that would change him and american music forever. Can you describe the moment. Where all of the fortune changes. So harry pace trying to figure out what they're doing. Nineteen twenty one. Harry walk into a bar called edmund seller in harlem. It's despite this place is small seats. May be hundred. Fifty hundred and seventy-five on a good day but on that night. These folks are jammed in elbow to elbow all come to see this one hotshot twenty one year old and you imagine just a very tiny spotlight on her new do oh and she is That thing so full of life some artists and listen to them you can have light conversation and the backdrop but when ethel water scenes doing this she used the oxygen in the room. The harry is spellbound. I come along in that era. I was working in nightclubs. That laugh hers really. Got a chance to interview. Ethel letters about those early days. I can't tell you what a thrill it is for me. These forty five years later to hear her voice the comment sweet mama string beans sweet mama string bean thin and you got it before you started in show business. Yeah but i was awfully thin. That was one of the things. Lord stop me from grievance. Because i was always told child. She was tall elegant pretty. I got rhythm she could. Dan good dancer. She did the shimmy buzzard. Of course you know that song back that thing up she knew how to back that thing up. Ethel waters as white one of those entertainers. I wish i would have been alive to see her on stage. She king get something across. I could sing. Dance talking missile. I'll make you laugh or make you cry. Make you laugh and make you cry to me. Baby got tell the star. When i say a thing. I'm envisioning a picture and i'm trying to paint that picture for you to see. I want to see what i see now. In terms of what did heresy when he walked into edmonds. Install her. it's interesting to imagine because on the one hand. Ethel waters is as unpaid. Then as you get says look you know. I grew up by four. I knew how to curse like a sailor junkies. I knew sex workers author randall jokes. She's a woman of the of the streets of so to speak at that perhaps he also saw something in her. That was in him. It was a peculiar sensation is a consciousness the sense of always looking at oneself through the eyes of others so she understood the use of masks. This is writer. Margo jefferson the love of and the absolute immersion as if it was her birthright in masquerade and disguise ethel was a chameleon he played with styles. Doing what you might call vocal black face in vocal whiteface can you. Can you give us an example of that of what does that mean. Well you can hear that. Good question in the For example i give you an. I can't give you anything but love. The first verse. She sings what we might call a white face gusto. I can't give you. I home and you can just here having a wonderful amused time with. I can't give you anything. Not then you know second thurs. She drops our voice. She finds bessie smith she. Does that mean brace note. Start going into blue. No one thing changes so you can. You can actually hear the to my when harry star at the bar. It must have been like. Oh you're the person i've been looking at all. You got it all so inbetween site harry. Or maybe one of his associates elbows his way to the front of the room. Where ethel is lounging by the piano. I he's will. Will you do me a favor. Let's i can't think of his name. He was a very nice man. A very intelligent man coded man. And there's there's a colored company. They said the black swan records. He said why the black swan has starting out and that was pace and hand was extra space. And i knew both minute mr pace from memphis tennessee when he was in the insurance business and i knew handy when they and they was in the music publishing business because you to get permission from him to stay the saint louis blues when i knew it and they had this little office on one hundred and thirty ninth street down in the basement so he said just there and talk so the upped i go. I think to go with him down in the basement to whether this office was very nice place and very dignified because i was from the outside tracks but it was a colored whiskas but we still had lines of distinction. Still do so. Mr room pace the opposite very nice for man. Anyhow the result was they said what. I be interested in making test recording so we went to a place in jersey. That was when they was singing to horns with this was before the invention of the microphone. You're talking with good microphones. They had to do that in the recording. Studio with a megaphone. They'd have these horns dropdown tubas and bass horns and things like that you now and that dominated as the story goes harry. Athol and harry's arranger fletcher henderson getting into a discussion about what ethel's gonna sing. Do we do more classical concert. You know elevating in these kind of music or do we go popular. No-doubt harry was like. Can you do some opera. But it seems like what happened is ethel said. No we're going to popular and you're gonna pay me one hundred dollars which was three times which was making it edmonds and so when in this little hats studio. It was a little hot room. And i sang down home blues. That day was he was not up and he'd got that that always makes me so when they put it out. It was an instant sensation in new york. An absolutely massive. It was a big hit and he got patient the black swan records hip. She says that recording got them off the hip and put them on the map down. Humbly just completely transformed dining. That don't mean. I can't be the success of downhome. Blues was so big to talk to the press again in the game because napping few what harry always used to claim he sold five hundred thousand copies of donald blues in six months. Probably a bit of an exaggeration up all these works when he gives that figure. But it's hard to appreciate you know music of the past. Kim september sound really far away. It's hard to appreciate what an atomic bomb the was. You could argue. From this moment forward. She became the first crossover artists in american history. To is beyond beyond. So i mean she was she she was on stage. She was in the movies. She was a recording star. So she's a superstar as soon as ethel hit. Harry basically doesn't want eighty from opera to blues and he starts spitting out press releases full of lies just to stoke the hype so this was dated december twenty christmas eve nine hundred and twenty one in mind newspaper. The chicago defender How i love that paper. F-full must not marry sign contract for big salary providing she does not marry within a year. That's the this is. this is the contract. Ethel waters has signed a unique contract with harry h pace which stipulates that she is not to marry for at least a year and that during this period cheese to devote her time largely to singing for black swan records. It was due to numerous offers of marriage. Many of her suitors suggesting that she give up her professional life at once for domesticity that mr pace was prompted to make this step side note. Ethel waters was openly in a relationship with a woman Harry would have known this she was dating another woman named ethel a dancer and they were famous in harlem for getting into screaming matches in the streets. New york on the must not marry contract but she played along upon receipt of these documents. Miss waters reported to have smiled and prominently attached her signature to the contract which was returned to new york without delay. Mr waters contract makes her now the highest salaried colored star in the country. There's no diminution in the number of prospective swings swain's is a worthy. We should bring back information to the effect that there's no demand in the number of perspective swain's however and that each city visited ads quoted. The list of this is amazing. What she must have felt amazing. This is in the newspaper. Oh my god. Yeah everybody's famously aroused by you. In any case only a few months after that big hit after ethel signs a contract. Harry was getting the tour underway. They start touring as black swan records. I mean we'll later see motown records. Do this stacks records. Do this bad boy records do this. All of the record labels come later in terms of black owned for black folks they they take the same model. The tour should be kicked off in washington. Dc november seventeen nine hundred twenty. One paul spent months scouring old newspapers to put together the only full account that we know of of this tour started in washington then philadelphia. The played new york. Little lighter was baltimore. Spent a long time touring around small towns in ohio. Paul says that i. They played little nickelodeon in black run theaters cincinnati. They played little rock. Ethel always headline. She was the big star lower down the bill. Ab a comedian. One case ads and acrobats. In all along the way it's like one of those adventure movies were superheroes. Just keep making cameos like that. Just keeps happening for example in new orleans. Louis armstrong on this tour on this first tour ultimately. That's the meeting. That led to louis armstrong. Joining a pledge anderson founded inventing swing these. Louis armstrong was an unknown young comfortable so there was louis also in the early days. Jack johnson one of the greatest fighting machines in the history of boxing. Jack johnson was the first heavyweight boxing champion in america. Maybe the most famous person in the country at that point and he was the reason for that phrase great white hope white people hated that he was so good kept throwing up challenger after challenger. He always beat them. Johnson russia's in lands an uppercut three tremendous barrage of budget on the tour. He do little comedy skits. I have been requested to tell. Just how i not out. So many of my own phone and he would tell stories. He brought the moves employees that she brushed. Evil speaking ethel julia. Throw the heavens tonight. Or maybe ernie and hallowed. Dan apprentice to be here. Another thing that happens is that ethel waters appears on. This new thing called the radio. He guardian just hearing trumpets blow ago. So that makes her the first black woman ever seen on. Us radio i was the first and i was the first person present for having. That voice transmitted across. The airwaves was extremely significant. Then i let me get back on track as the tool. Governors pools apple was determined. That i should play dates in the south because our argument was all records of sold for black swan. All music originates from the south. We have a responsibility to let the people who us players. As soon as she suggests this four members of the band they quit. They weren't going down south you got lynching going on. You got clear. Jim and jane crow going on but i thought that she wouldn't perform unless they did. They went south january february. Nineteen twenty two. This is the second leg of the tool. Cincinnati memphis pine. Buff little rock arkansas. So many ways. Chattanooga ethel waters in the folks who were on this tour savannah. These artists felt that they were active paris. Texas fort worth texas waco texas dallas debt. Black people not only can excel but we have to come in peace. We literally come in peace. But that's not always what they found for example macon georgia moments before they show up to perform at the douglass theatre as a white race riot. Essentially in michael a young black man had been accused of attacking a white police officer a white mob then invaded the black section of town searched homes trash businesses. Eventually they found the man shot him hundreds of times tied him to a tree and then lit a fire at his feet. They then take the body they throw it into the back of a truck and they drive into the centre of my black neighborhood which is where the there to the douglass theatre is a knife depending on which account you believe they either throw the body actually into the lobby the make on or they throw it up against its main entrance. Play macon georgia. Here's ethel remembering that moment many years later and i got there just a few. Oh they had just removed. Say about a half hour before. I got there the remains of a person that had been lynched. A man that had been inched and you never since the paul that comes over it was it was it. You can feel that you didn't see ten years later. When irving berlin writes the song suppertime which is an anti lynching soul. That's the incident. Thanks to fuel performance. When when mr berlin was telling me by. I only had to remember some how you will cause that man of my a coming home go greece and the fia in any case i gotta say the fact that this tour even happened is kind of a miracle. Absolutely has the tore through the south. Something surprising happened. Black swan became quieter. Chic thing for people right at the top of white society. He says nouveau rich white people started giving each other black swan records as wedding gifts in harry started adding shows to the tour. What would often happen. Is that organized. What they go to midnight. Frolic ofter the main show on a friday or saturday night. It would stars about eleven o'clock at night and would run probably about two or three. In the morning and this would be a whites-only show is the equivalent of brooklyn hipsters coming in and that's probably one of the strangest most amazing details of this tour. Is that at a few of these midnight shows for ethel waters. Big entrance would kill the lights. The stage would suddenly be plunged into complete darkness. Apple would then walk onto stage holding a giant japanese fan that covered her entire body and behind. The fan was for dress made of a one hundred percents radio. What you mean radium like the the element. The whole bill is pitch black and all you can say is athlon stage. She then sutter fan and what the crowd suddenly sees is. This woman illuminated by the light of this radio address. And you know you imagine how is just going crazy nine to answering. No one would have see anything like there's still that is crazy. On so many levels it was black. Swan records most incandescent moment but ultimately that that was the beginning of the end. Almost slow it's like a a wave cresting breaking your thing was brilliant. As if you know. The company's good luck would never end and then suddenly the white crashed and everything just went to the chapter to the fall now. It went in stages. When harry got back from tour things were going great extract here for one of his letters to the boys. We were selling around seven thousand records a day and had three presses in the factory which could make six thousand records daily. He's saying literally is selling records pastor. He make them desperate to keep up. He buys an entire record pressing plant in long island and then the white response backlash the white record. Owners got pretty pissed. September the fast nineteen twenty two. You got workers at the plot there shoveling coal into the furnace which powers the plants and one of them discovers a three inch shell in the co they discover a bomb chicago defender september sixteenth nineteen twenty two at the black swan plant. Just where the bomb came from could not be ascertained. The officials of the company were alarmed at first the work of white competitors. The daily news carried a picture of the bomb which was of unusually large size. If that shallow gone into the furnace it would have blown the whole place. Yeah i haven't my hand your letter from harry paste board of directors of black swan records. You're in the past few months. We have been the target of attack from our competitors. The desire seems to be the we must be put out of business by any means fair or foul. The white labels had woken up and they were coming. After harry the white backlash it was clear then that there was profit to be made producing and distributing music for black people. Harry success it proven to the white companies. Oh there's a market here. Over twelve million colored people in the united states. There are millions of people who have money and don't want to buy minstrel songs so all of a sudden in the space of just a few months just about every record. Label record label launches its own specialist race records imprint. My dear doctor. Two boys summer has been very dull for us. The white companies have every one of them gone in for colored business teeth and toenail paramount comes along in august. Nineteen twenty two launches. Its own race. Label columbia is early as february. Nineteen twenty three and the really big one was victor august. Nine hundred twenty three causes serious slump in ourselves. Lots slight suddenly discovering google or facebook of decided to operate against you another phase of oppression from which we are suffering is the attempt that is going on to wean away our singers from us and so the poaching begins trixie. Smith gets pulled away. Man rocks me with one sixty smith. We haven't talked about her yet. He was black swan artist coined the term rock and roll one on this black swan release. She gets poached claw recorded spirituals to black swan. And of course harry hit. The roof does a very good news report from the chicago defender. It says mr pace is advised by his attorneys. Another company has bribed certain dealers to damage their black swan records before selling them to consumers with a view of making the consumer feel the rice product was sent out in that condition and to calls him to cease buying them man. If i'm harry at this point i am hiring. Some thugs is low carries a gentleman. Jad he's a gentleman. He's rushing his records making things even worse in the middle of all this. You get ethel waters blue. Who gets pulled away. Astle no alien side stock appearing in one thousand nine hundred eighty three. This feels like the end of like scarface. Laugh like harry in a room alone with a bunch of cocaine and some big time and it's just not very pace like twenty montagna and scarface. He goes down ugly. First thing he does is he. Starts running ads in newspapers saying. Don't be deceived. don't be deceived. don't be deceived. Housing for colored has become popular says we established black swan records only genuine colored records airy would accuse wight companies of passing black and white photograph. Company is now issuing had jim crow. Catalog of records says uprising. Jim crow annex. Whoa an offsite. The best to lust words. This is desperate measures for desperate times. Harry at this point isn't a bind where he desperately needs to do is to get some kind of black swan product on the market to fight back but the white companies had stolen all his stars. What is he going to do so he decides what he does is he does the exact opposite of what he's known for as he accuses the white labels of passing he himself gets his hands on a bunch of unreleased music by white bands. Gets them through a white lawyer by the way and he changes the names not the music. Just the names. He takes white artists recordings and he passes them off as black mainly jones. For example she was really watching a good alien. Stanley henderson's will construct. That would have been either the merrie melody man or manning's roseland orchestra rudy. We'd offs californians. That's a german name we'd off. They became hanes harlem syncopated. I have to say. I'm i'm really on the fence about the morality of this move. Is this a bad ass. Move or is this just the opposite. What it is is a premonition of things to come make a long story short just a few months after ethel waters records downhome blues and literally lights up the night in a radio address. Hayes basically broke. We are crap now very seriously for cash. We're cutting down to the bone in every way. Although i have personally put in large amounts of money and have used my personal credit borrow more Harry was forced to cut the price of black swans discs. That started off at a dollar. He had to cut them. I eighty five cents. And then to seventy five cents. Eventually he's telling the whole bundle of disks and he's throwing in a free ten cent pack of needles so what phonograph needles lab at a price. That there's there's just not much room for profit. Harry holds out for as long as he can but then ultimately chicago defender april nineteenth nineteen twenty four. He sells black swan paramount records. A white company white combinations of white businesses are frequent. It does not often occur where there is a combination of a white and a racial business more than local interest therefore to note the recent consolidation of the phonograph record business of the paramount a white organization and the black swan black swan records came and went in just two years. But if you think about it think about what came before and what came after it was. He pretty gigantic domino to fall. Black swan really hastened the process of the white labels giving black artists the charts and it only needs to be a couple of years for robert johnson to have died before he ever recorded note. That process been delayed or just a couple of years. We'd have no rob johnson and with no robert johnson. Oh my god rolling stones. No eric clapton with that's weird. Magin once you take that break out. The hotel starts to look pretty shaky. i mean. It's all historical speculation really. Here's what we'll say everything that we just told you about. Black swan ethel and all the stuff. That's just the first part of harry story. This guy live five lifetimes at one and the craziest part is yet to come. Spiracy is like threatens my family. They threatened harry junior. Your father they threaten joseph like tooth party in the next episode. Harry's record roulette starts to spin out of control you know so after basically after sixty years of of battle you know. How many more years did he. Oh you right. How many more years did he. Oh that's on the next episode of the vanishing of harry harry pace was created by jabbing ron and chima all the i and is presented as a collaboration between awesome audio radio. Lap radio diaries. The series is based on the book black swan blues the hard rise and brutal fall of america's first black owned record label by paul slade. We had original music from musician. Hani rainy her song. Buca our editorial advisors are casey lehman imani perry core jefferson and terrance mcknight. Jimmy floyd is our consulting producer. Our fact checker is lead series. Artwork was created by casio harare special. Thanks to giles. Bench apparel and joe richmond. Next episode is right on the heels of this one. Thank you for listening This message comes from. Npr sponsor capital one offering checking and savings accounts with no fees or minimums and banking app to check balances deposit checks and transfer money. That's banking reimagined. 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The Imbalanced History Of Rock And Roll: Brother Robert-Truth Behind A Blues Legend

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The Imbalanced History Of Rock And Roll: Brother Robert-Truth Behind A Blues Legend

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When we were starting to do the research on you, so I want to read that to mark so yeah, because beale street sounds like in those days it was one of the most exciting and vibrant places in the world and one of the many great people to come out of Beale street is a blues legend named Robert Johnson I think we're all in the rock and roll world familiar with him along with Preston. Anderson wrote this book called brother Robert Growing up with Robert. Johnson she is Robert Johnson's stepsister, and was able to spend many years with him and paint a different picture and from what we've read. It seems like this book in a way is GonNa re-write the Blues History well I think it will certainly add a personal dimension to it that fans of Robert. Johnson have black people. Keep asking me well business book explode. The mythology and I really think that those two portraits hang side by side to have the mythical. Robert, Johnson with familiar from stories primarily you know from his traveling buddy. Johnny shines and honey boy Edwards. admirers like muddy waters. And we have lacked that personal family portrait of Robert Johnson, and so Mrs Anderson has given us the family portrait perspective on Robert Johnson, and it seems to be quite different than what we have been taught over the years, and in a way it seems like a lot of Roberts history is very whitewashed. Well, you know I keep getting back to what? A complex individual Robert. Johnson was you know you have to remember that? He grew up with several different last names, and you can only imagine what kind of an identity crisis that would cause for the person you know. He only found out in his teenage years. Who is natural father was it was always more than one Ron Johnson even in his own mind. Mind and in his own lifetime, and so to me the part of the reason that we have these different portraits of Robert Johnson is that in reading about him over the years interviews with the like I said is travelling buddies at from books by people like Beer Deronic Philadelphia Resident Elijah Wald hope he doesn't mind me airing his dirty laundry on your program. You realize that Robert didn't that vote his family. History around is blue's friends and he didn't really go into. His music career with his family, so he very deliberately kept these lives separate quiet from each other. down. And I kind of equate it with a lot of us. We've gone through a divorce I grew up in divorce. I wasn't GonNa, tell my mom, what my dad was up to you know. Anyhow I equate it to that. You know you have different families until you relate to them. In different ways, different groups of people I think it's actually fairly ordinary but Robert. WHO's become such a mythical figure that even these kind of mundane family, and and first hand perspective details are so precious because we just didn't know that they were out there it is. Is the imbalance, history or rock and roll, Ray Marcus and we're. We're talking with Preston. Who wrote the book brother Robert? Our sponsors is always are one. CBD At once he beauty, dot, com, and crooked, either in the heart of Hafbro at crooked eye brewery dot com. We jumped into this precedent in. It's such a fascinating story for all of us and you. You touch on things in the book. They are kind of what you were talking about right there. About the non traditional family is and I think there was one of the sisters was forever changed when she found out that they weren't full sisters, even though they all call each other sister and brother, the two mothers families, the mother Robert's mother and her. Her mother lived near each other. They were all around each other. Everybody was good with each other. They're meant as the other thing that strikes me other than than plugging into what the VIBE was in. The family is all the time when we all had Robert is just Roman. Doing the walk about disappearing, you know. Make it a deal with the devil. In Memphis he was on Beale Street, honing his craft with his br half. Brothers son, who he would travel with, and they would go I learned all this in your book. Go into Mexico and California. It makes sense as to why the recording sessions that they set up. We're in Texas because he was in transit, perhaps on one of his his trips, so it really paints a very different familial picture of the man, and what is life was like in the periods that his friends like you said that he didn't share with didn't know wary was yeah, exactly yes. You're right about that. You know in the mythical Robert. Johnson histories that have been out before this book your. There are always these unexplained gaps in time and while I. CAn't necessarily you know look at our narrative and say well? This is where he was during this greater that period specifically on the calendar you at least get an understanding of where else he did spend some of those years, and you're absolutely right to point out beale street as as a proving ground for Robert, Johnson and his sound, and that's that's an important part of his is musical style and and story that there wasn't any certainty on. I think until Anderson came along to explain. Kids in my. Dude. About suitcase and. and Has a major influence on Robert Johnston Style Mrs Anderson. Has this this great observation of her being a kid and then being at a party at a family friend's house, they used to keep the piano kinda right in the in the hallway. Big Apartment building a lot of people lived in, and so they'd get together and jam. Know have parties she says. Says and the grown folks would do whatever the grown folks wanted to do, but when you listen to Robert Johnson style, one of the things that jumps out at you I think has been really the signature. The the sound that people can't wrap their heads around you know. Keith Richards said it was it was like hearing. Two people play and it's Roberts. Use It. It that walking bass time Isley with the lead string, trouble and so Mrs, Anderson Remembers Robert and son sitting at the piano to get and Robert Jamming on the left side on the deep or the Bass keys and brother son, you know tinkling on the right side of the piano, playing the the light or sound of keys, the leads and I think that. That that must be ingredient in rob. Johnson Guitar Style you know, had merging that that kind of attack the based on end, and the the lead on the other in part of the Robert, Johnson narrative that we are familiar with is that before he went on his crossroads adventure or disappeared for a year and a half to make that deal with the devil. His predecessors. His Heroes All said that he was not very good, and he was kind of clumsy and all of that. Do you think there's accuracy to that? Because my impression from what on yea wrote and what you wrote is that he was ahead of time he was trying to do new things, and he had a salad, a modern blue sound that was completely different than what his predecessors were doing. And maybe it scared them. Because this young kid would long fingers with so much better than them. Yeah. That's entirely possible. In A. Lean on. Who? I'm gone to rotate. Don't take my. By. I'm going to go. Around. You. Can't. Go. You think the whole deal with the devil narrative him on The Sun House observations. of Robert, being bad or being unable to really play the guitar at one point, and then jumping back in six months later I think by Sun Sun. Houses estimate a recollection and being you know the guitar. Bob that we all pray take. At least we all learn agreement about that and I can't get over how much I've learned in the last week or so reading the book to get ready to talk to you. A lot of it is a feeling. We were talking about that Marcus. How it's really about the feeling that you get from reading these stories has she weaves together personalities to Crete the vibe and you did a great job of bringing down that allowed Mrs Anderson well. Thank you and it's interesting. The the moment that I spoke to Mrs Anderson and I WanNa make very clear to everybody who's listening that. Yes, this is a ninety four year old woman that we're talking about. Her father was born in sixty six I mean so. She has a first hand. Look at the entire of black America since the end of slavery. She's an unbelievable human being Even if she didn't have a famous brother I would be, I would be all in with with her whatever she wanted to do. She made the choice to write this book. It's wasn't a process of me finding her interviewing her, and persuading her to be. This is her plant, and she's not on this doom call because she's sheltering in place with no Internet connection so As. That sounds she doesn't care. She's been through a depression and World War and she's strong. She's good. Her voice was what just grabbed me from the moment we started discussing doing this project. It's a sound. It is a word, choice and inflection. It is an old dated saying you know like her mother used to call snapping her fingers finger Poppin, yes. Wouldn't allow finger puppet in the house. That's right. The heathens allow FINGERPI-. Part of the Devil's music. Yay. Be careful with that. And the way that I wanted to do the book as the glorified typist is simply to lay it out in her words I had to kind of put it in order chronologically because you know, she didn't necessarily tell it from beginning to end, so that was a little bit of my labor, but want people to be able to just sit with. Maybe even in one sitting in one night you know with a glass of Bourbon or one of those Nice Beers from one of your sponsors to just immerse in her voice in her story in her world. You know in her Robert Johnson. I didn't want to be eight hundred page book. Organ kind of semi. Roomed. Really wanted that voice able to carry, so I appreciate the fact that you enjoyed that aspect of. Did you write eight hundred pages worth of material and cut it down into the one. The pages or did you cut? A lot of fat in the writing of this book. No, not terribly You Know Mrs Anderson and I worked together, and our process was when tape record her stories transcribe those those interviews, and then send them to her for her editing and and approval and anything she wanted to add on, so we got together where she lived a couple of times, but then the real treat for me was that. That we got to meet in Memphis, in August of two thousand and eighteen, she does. She hasn't lived there since nineteen forty seven, and so we got the chance to meet up at the eightieth anniversary of Robert Johnson's death land to go back to their home where they live, all the places where she could remember him sitting out in picking his guitar on the railroad tracks and overlooking the by you. Pictures are great. Yeah, the PIXELS, exceptional. I'm really glad that you enjoy that, but yeah, so that was a real treat for me and so being able to be right there and hear the stories that brought out quite a lot of memories from her and of course to be there and feels all. There's a couple of things that were unknown to me before I. Read Your Book. I Mrs Anderson said they. Robert loved the play for children. He nursery rhymes for the kids in the neighborhood and I thought that was really cool. and. She really only mentions the death of brother. Robert's child wants in her book. was that loss exaggerated other narratives of his life, or was it just because she wasn't really there and part of that, that wasn't bigger. In fact, I think that she only learned about the loss of that child. Many years later reading other people had written, and so it was almost in reflection that you made that same. Yeah, you know. He loved to play all of these these these songs he's nursery rhymes, and for the children to dance around and She kinda added as an aside of course you know. He lost a child. Any must've been heartbroken and so I don't think that that was that. She was aware that when it happened. Let's give question I'm I'm not a hundred percent. Sure That's our podcast welcomes. Another thing that that you brought up in addition to nursery rhymes with the love of Jimmy Rogers. That was his favorite and picture them hanging out picking guitar and Yodeling. is awesome. I never really got to record any of that. That kind of material that you definitely hear the influence in some of his vocal inflections, maybe where he was going next in his own evolution, like incorporating more of that country feel from. Jimmy because he was obviously they made you make it very clear in the book. How large was for RJ? Yeah, will absolutely and. You think about about Robert. Johnson Style and something like Rockabilly I mean it. It certainly could have happened. Had He had the time? He would have gone somewhere for Bob Dylan thanks Robert. Johnson was so far ahead of its time that we still haven't caught up to so he might have gone to look even further out places than we can even conceive up. Do you think that Robert Johnson was recorded under different names during his travels, or even during his time in Memphis, because you had a few African Americans that were very wealthy and had the equipment. Look at a W C handy and. And people that like the guy, who died in one, thousand, nine, hundred, twelve, that owned all the houses of ill repute refute oh. Rob Robert Hurt so and people like that that followed him up. Do you think any of them along? The way may have recorded him in all those years boy. Now that I couldn't say you know. There were a few recording sessions by the big companies RCA victor comes to mind and another one who whoever Ralph peer was with would come through Memphis and those would have been in the late twenties, and so that's where you got like furry. Lewis early recording. Tonight! Rainy Blues. Somebody year. Be. Nickname. A. MEMPHIS JUG band recordings. Can Judge Stompers, and so where Robert was at that time I'm not a not a percent sure so he who knows he could have been involved with some of those sessions. There wouldn't have been any note made. He could've share, but I don't know I. Haven't come across any evidence of that. You mentioned Furry Lewis and big order Horton's another one that comes up. Book is prominent friend of Mister Johnson's. There's also mention of Memphis Minnie in hell. She may have been an accompanying on one of these names that we put in our exploration of the blues among the progenitor of the blues. Blues and they're they are around him in closer proximity than we knew from our previous look into it, and at the same time, also making verifiable connections especially with with big Walter, who of ripped Robert did he took some of his lines and put them in some of his songs and stuff like that, so they were that close in a lot of the other stories. Don't really talk about it. He was amazing for my money Walter it's. I don't know if there is a you know, we'll have our tastes with that, but I with our Monica, but the way that he. Blew such feeling and emotion through the with that harmonicas to me. He's the best you know. There are many others that I. Love and enjoy, but picture big. Walter Young big, Walter and and Pique Robert. Johnson, playing would have been mine. They? They did jam together in. This is Anderson Remembered. Few of the songs, and I think one of them was what ended up being a big walter recording. You might have that information closer at hand than I do, but MEMPHIS Minnie she would've kept up. Find with Robert Johnson if you think about. She was quite modern. She's playing electric guitar by what nineteen. Forty soon as they could plug them in. She was pretty early. She was right there and so Particularly I think for a a country five blues musician. She was definitely looking to be more cutting edge. which certainly Robert Johnson's Mo and I would say Mrs Anderson Brooke. She said well when I remember Memphis many I see a mouthful of gold. I remember talking about the gold teeth, and how everybody had teeth in the book, and that was kind of a sign of status, or she said she liked brother Robert's teeth, beautiful white teeth. What else do you need? talked about what a fine dress serie was in how he was impeccably dressed a lot of the time you know in. It's part of the MO I guess a being the Blues Man. He held onto his guitar. And you tell a great number of stories about how he wouldn't let anyone touch you too, and he would walk around Memphis playing it. At the end of his life, it gets pawn by his half brothers son I think your book does a lot to dispel the deal with the devil nonsense in Robert Johnson's life I think it's part of the legend, not really part of what I see as his true story. Now you have another kind of quest if you will and other grail to go after the the guitar, any word on what became of it, or where it might be a man, supposedly, it was pawned on Beale Street in Memphis, and that's what you have in the book right right and so the pawn shops you know that are on. Do they were a fixture there for a hundred? Hundred plus years they've all closed down and I. think that the families that owned the pawn shops have all died out and gotten out of the business, and so it would be very difficult just as I'm trying to think of well. How would you go about Tracy verifying? Yeah, there's a chance that if you know the old upon receipts exist in families, archive or something, there might be something traceable there. There would be a piece of paper the guitar who might have to decide that I know I don't, but if it exists somewhere, it's probably not far from there probably purchased A. In Memphis and you know you hope that it did not get far away so. Damaged or damaged. You know I hope that it's still exists. I do I hope. And somebody can say. Oh, my Gosh, you know off this year. My Daddy bought this guitar and the planning took place many years after Robert's death was not an immediate thing at all, and so to me. That gives me hope that it might. You. Know potentially still be out there, but to get back to your question about the or your your observation about the the deal with the devil I mean. Of course you can't make a deal with the devil, so that's. Dabble. By. Inside the. But, he didn't do anything to dispel it with songs like Hell Hound on my trail, which by the way your book Marcus and I talked about this about how really put perspective on that Right Right Buddy? Yeah, about about the white, the white wealthy men being on his the white man being on his tail. The Hell Hound and Making some of you know for the plantation. I never realized make sense. Any. On almost. Home I say. Only say. In a lot of native American lore before White Man got to America, there was legend of the White Devil and I've got a hard of American friends out west who have talked about the ancient Yawkey and some of their tribes, and how the White Devil was always part of the devil, so it's really interesting that the Hell Hound is white. But the devil is nondescript in me and the devil so. He didn't do everything he could to dispel it and I think he might have even liked it a little bit because it kept those guys from digging into what he was really all about which was Hobo and taking trains with sun hanging on Beale Street, and being a bit of a celebrity there I think he did contribute to his own Mystique, and if you think about it, the myth is really important to. The success in the interest in Robert Johnson. I was speaking the other day with the a journalist in Italy, said who said that the myth is what helps create so much interest in the real person. And you know there's nobody out there trying to dig up Leroy cars long lost stepsister or blind, Blake, who you know, any of the other fantastic musicians of of that era, because they are not really mythical in stature. The way that Robert Johnson is I. Mean Look at some of his contemporaries, Charlie. Patent I mean patent didn't live to see any interest in in the blues and the way that it exists now. Nobody's nearly as interested in patents they are at Robert Johnson. And it also brings to mind something that Mrs Anderson. Said about the crossroads pointing out the importance of of Biblical imagery to Robert's mind, and she said the ministers in the family who debated about the crossroads about bat symbolic place where you are in life from side. Are you going to? Live a virtuous way, or are you going to go? And we've all made our choices their to. His. Brother Robert written by on Yay. See Anderson and the man that we are talking about Preston Louder Bach. On the INBALANCE, history of rock and roll, you might take a little pause for because it refreshes. And Marcus, you know when I'm thirsty. Where I'M GONNA head whenever I need a frosty coup, delicious craft beer, talking about crooked eye brewery right in the heart of hat borough, the place that is open now and able to seat people outdoors on the freshly paved beer, garden and music inside a couple of nights. 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Beer right on the patio and if you don't feel safe sitting around with everybody else enjoying the Bruschi can always bring your growl, or they'll fill your crowder, or they've got sixteen ounce cans already made in ready to go at crooked is serving the cure for what ails you since two thousand fourteen, and we thank them for their support of the podcast. We're back on the imbalance. History of rock and Roll Marcus in Ray, talking with Preston Ladder back about this book that he co wrote with the half sister of the Great Robert Johnson. It's called brother Robert. Growing up with Robert Johnson while we've dispelled a couple of things we've talked about the devil legend and all that, but there's still so much more to. About the man, and you're telling of his story, one of the many things I found very interesting in this book. Preston was the fact that he was literate. Very interested in the the OPN. Emperor Haile Selassie. Barry Very updated on world events because he and his brother son, and they all would read the papers every day, and allowed his stories, and a lot of his songs came from some of the things that were happening in the paper. So do you think that it's mistaken that maybe he what people may be thought. He wasn't as literate as he was. And do you feel that that has been cleared up well? I, don't it? If you have your your copy of the book hand, but you see in there. There is a postcard yet. One of the great artifacts that's an. Election was a postcard sent from Dallas Texas during the recording session that produced Hell Hound on my trail, and you see his handwriting. You see his signature. You see that postmark in that date saying Dallas and the data. The session was at June nineteen, thirty seven. I want to say off the top of my head. But I bet you that you're right. Do you need yeah, whether whether the perception exists that he was literate or uneducated or something, which I don't think you can listen to music and think that he's uneducated. He's clearly a brilliant writer lyricist workman. Visionary weather. You Learned in. Grad schools. Or more likely had a talent and a gift for it to me matters very little because he was able to express himself in a way that nobody else ever has yes. I think that there is that SORTA cliche about the blues man being illiterate whether it's applied to Robert Johnson or you know just that sort of anonymous figure of the blues. Man with his his bottle of Whisky Guitar Slung over his back walking the railroad track. A. They say it's an easy one right they. That's an easy one to cook. But finding the truth, you guys really dug in with all of her stories in. You're bringing it out at a time when I think people will want to hear people who've been following Robert. Johnson because of the fifties, blues, guys, and then the sixties British guys in everybody who's come along since it has dug into his music I, think everybody, a large percentage of those people are still alive, and with this and this kind of a story. This kind of filling in the gaps in the story is absolutely essential. Telling well, look at the perspective of how we know A. A lot of this blues history is from white enthusiasts. Right discovered the records after they they lost popularity, and they were more obscure got music because it's fantastic and started to do the research. Try to track down some of the the old, the old guys in the old ladies in and their cohorts, and that sort of thing, so a lot of the blues history has been written from a white perspective, and you don't have as much of this firsthand African American perspective, and and now you know our cultures in a place where we're finally starting to value that more now you take it with somebody like Robert Johnson. You know who has Touch on Italy. Has This mythical status? Where did that myth from can come from and it came from people who did know. We're trying to piece it together, but you know. Mrs Anderson is is very much the opposite of that, and it's fascinating to me. One of my favorite moments in in the book, and in Interviewing Mrs Anderson was this image of of her in the nineteen sixties with her ladies. Home, Journal magazine reading probably some little puff piece about the rolling stones who are calling out their their favorite musician of all I'm Robert Johnson and she's. In her head, and saying that can't be my Robert Johnson. How would they know about him, you know. These two worlds all mom. Of. Rock and rollers, and and old music fans who really revered Robert, Johnson? And then there were the people that knew him that were not connected to to that cultural awareness. Of Robert Johnson. That's fascinating to me and you know when those two worlds met some fairy messed up. Things happened. That's true. Are you talking about all of the legal stuff and the fighting for ownership of Robert Johnson's music, and all of that is far sti stuff. What an ugly ugly part of the story that is, and what a vile part of the story I know! Raise got a couple of questions about some of the people involved with that I wanNA know a little bit more about Steve Is Lavar. Levine. First off, there's this other guy you're talking about. I guess was Mack McCormick who come in and started to Kinda Griffey's way into the family about all stuff. I don't even think that it was Mrs Anderson. I think it was your sister that was. They're all getting old in passing. And they handed the reins to the legacy to her to fight for it in what happened after that it's it's the middle later later. Part of the book is one of the most egregious examples that I have ever heard to. Do was to the level that it was at the most egregious examples of theft of art. In American history in for it to be Robert Johnson for it to be the million selling compilation of his recordings that was involved in the distribution of this money to someone who none in the family at ever heard of her new as part of the deal that would make with the world and get the courts to go along with I. Find it to be is an egregious stories you're going to find and there is no justice for the for the family. At this point we have seen other cases settled amicably or otherwise, but we don't see any justice for Robert. Johnson a man who gave us so much. It's unbelievable, I. I have nothing to add to that I. think he summed it up perfectly. It's it's that's all it is. You know it's of course. The the two photographs that have been in circulation for a long time, the cigarette photo and Robert and his pinstripe suit you know those were cherished family heirlooms, and and people might think that they've heard that story before of Libya, ripping off the family, but you know we had legal documents that have never been published from. We had lavars process from the sixties when he first learned about Robert Johnson and develop this strategy really of gaining control of the copyrights to Robert Johnson's music. That was what it was really all about because of the value of that between the publishing, and the recording mechanical 's slide. The Time Fla veered gotten interested you see cream had come out with their cluber of crossroads right? The stones had done love in vain. Yeah, well right around that time in There was one other Aplin was that. Louis Zeppelin Cover Yup. A lot of versions of sweet home. A lot of versions of other songs. The value that was re is ridiculous in in nineteen sixty dollars, no doubt about it. Yeah, and so that's really what got news was getting those copyrights, but those photographs came from the family's collection. Your got those publish them and got them copyrighted under his own name. Mrs Am Sikorsky C. on the cover of the book. Is this beautiful photograph of Robert Johnson that's just? Just now being released for the first time and Mrs Anderson had that in her personal collection It was taken on Beale street in nineteen thirty six. If you can believe that and didn't want the thing to get out into the public, because she didn't appreciate the way that that those those other family images, those other family photographs had been in her in her word, abused stolen and abused and so. I mean she's ninety four right I mean she was ninety two. When we started this thing about how close we were to not having that photograph of Robert Johnson to see and this version of him, and it's all because of the way. The her family Rob Johnson family had been treated. You know, but by the record collectors, and then by the court system. separately from leverrier. You know you have Claude Johnson's family coming forward to make its claim on the estate. That's the too weird situation. Because by the time Claude Johnson came into the picture for the estate. Mrs Anderson was the only one of Robert. Johnson's I would save Memphis household because they're not blood relatives, who is still? Because she's not as blood relative, even though she knew him and head protected these the these heirlooms that we now see in the book and had been very much a part of the legal battle with La- veer over the copyrights in the first place. been there all along because she didn't have the blood relationship, the court didn't in any way recognize you know they're real family relationship, and so the estate was awarded to Claude. Johnson was recognized as Robert Johnson son. That's just despicable issue. She got screwed there, too. You know and and. Nobody here is in a position to say in any way whether Claude was really Robert Son. It's based on testimony no scientific evidence, but we'd know about Roberts Martin. Roberts Memphis family that that's one hundred percent you know stone, cold pipe lock. They have been treated unfairly and continue to have been though I must say I hope that this book turns things around having. Part of what you're doing with it all aside from a writer's natural curiosity always makes it more special and oppressed, and I wanNA. Thank you as somebody who's about the legends, because the whole devil never made much sense to me. Either in I looked at the whole thing, and to read this and the and read where he was what he was doing, and how he was catching the trains, because the train had slow down at the switch behind their house, they had a good natural spot to get on and off when they were coming and going and all the little things Marcus and our marveling about some of it the fact that he played at the friendly lunchroom their in town. And he was this door man being snuck into white hotels to play for the rich. People. Come. That type of stuff is insane. Because in those days in the south, he would a gotten his ass handed to Had he been caught by certain law officials for being snuck into those white hotels, but felt like the the people in Memphis were turning a blind eye to some of those things. Because Robert Johnson was their favorites. He's coming into back door with his brother. Let them come in and play some songs in our little party room. We've got going on things like that. I think I think it was part of the fun of what Beale Street was. We can't imagine it. Because even his greatest beale street is today. It's different it is. It isn't what it was and yeah. Johnson being a part of Beale street lore in this way in your biological to high blown every exactly I mean everybody loves the blues. Knows, Bill, street and everybody loves blue's knows Robert Johnson. Now you know to put in there in in Handy Park. You know picking his guitar. Beautiful. You know taking a nap when the palace theater getting his baby sis ready to play the amateur night. All of these images are priceless I'll absolutely and they're all in his book. Folks I'm telling you it's that's. It's not that big of a book on like you said earlier, but you've only scratched the surface we in Talkin now. We've been talking for a while. We've only scratched the surface of what's all in this book you've gotTa. Get it his brother. Robert growing up with Robert Johnson and his by. Anderson Mrs Anderson she called you later back. Hermit Mrs Anderson the whole time she's. Very nice and he is pressed in letterbox. He's been our guest here on the podcast. Lasting impressions of the Memphis Johnson's. and Mr Anderson and the whole experience of intersecting with this man, and his his legacy for you I mean look. Like I hope everybody who reads this book is I was just totally floored because I didn't know that somebody who was so close to Robert was still around here. We are eighty years eighty plus years since he's gone. It seems almost impossible to have. Somebody comes forward with. This level the depth of detail, and I will tell you this. You know from a historian's perspective. Everything that I could verify that Mrs Anderson, said check out and I was always impressed with the quality of of her memory. You talk today. You would hear that she is quite shark. So when he came down to well brother. Robert played this place in this particular year, you know I'd go to the city directory and say well. Did place assist in nineteen, thirty four and sure enough it did she remembered addresses remembered the names. You remember where people lived and anything like I said anything that could be verified was in the public record, and so to me, that gives extra value to the other things that she says because she's she's not an exaggerated I was more impressed with with. The hurt restraint. She could have said anything about she could've said that. She was at the Cross roads and saw the Denver right true. Contradict. But no, she don't do that while I'm drinking, please but what sprayed. Let me say this. If we're looking for ways to support African American artists purchase this book. You will be benefiting Mrs Anti. See Anderson I I did the job for a a percentage of the advance. All the royalties go to her So if you're contemplating how to get a hold of this book, and whether or not you WanNa, do it. Maybe that'll be another reason to pull the trigger it. You'll be supporting a gifted black artist and a wonderful person. Is there any website that's got it on special or selling that you know of that? We want to highlight any good local bookstore sites or anything like that small bookstore sites. That's really excellent question. If you have a a local independent books bookshop where you typically buy your books at, you can order it through them I'm nearly shots through that they don't have it. They'll get doylestown books will do that for a anytime there you go, so i. think that's probably the best way to do it other than that. All of the the usual suspects will have it Amazon and Barnes and noble. A couple more questions than I have are when you went to Memphis. To meet Ms Anderson and you've got to visit all these places. Did you feel any of that old school energy while you were there or you know it's it's. It was terrifically moving because as much time as I've spent in Memphis. I lived there for almost ten years, and if done, have been researching Memphis history for about fifteen years now you know it's such a small laid back town on the on the surface of it. You would just think nothing ever happens there, but there's so much depth to the history and the culture there, and it's just so laid back in so understated, but being in be seeing the house where Robert Johnson sister. Carey Mrs Anderson Mrs Anderson's parents. Her father, particularly you know used to well was was Roberts, first guitar teacher, but used to cut roberts hair there in the in the their apartment, but to actually see that building and know that it had been there all these years and I didn't know about I. Try to pride myself on being knowledgeable and good researcher, and all of them good sleuth. Who loves this stuff? It's just amazing. This stuff can be hidden in plain sight. And, it was so cool. You know there. Little little duplex built probably in the late twenties, but it's situated right on the by, and you know it's. It's unusual location from Memphis because there isn't a lot of that buying that's that's still expose. Most of it's been paved over, and it's more or less sewer system now. But you know for her to be able to say yeah, that's where brother Robert used to hang his feet over the Bank of the by you in Pickus Guitar and to see it, and for it to be such a well I mean look, it's neglected in an end in total disrepair in a way that just sort of makes it seem that much more powerful. You secret. I guess is what's so exciting about it. So few locations in his life were verifiable or quantifiable. I understand completely how that affects you. It's neat to. To, hear how the experience of writing this book and researching it affected the writer to no doubt about it. Thanks for Sherry. It was a blast now we'll. We'll thank you guys for APP me on to let me talk. At length about it really has been plunged one of the many things I enjoyed about the book and reading in the book was food. I love food so hearing about all these hearing about all this good food that they made in this barbecue sauce and stuff like that does Anya have any of those? And did she share any of them with you? Look at this guy. That is such a question. We're barbecue. Guys Mrs. Anderson has manufactured her family recipe barbecue sauce. So she has she's shared a lot of it with me. I have these great big jars of it. Still it is so good it is unlike any sauce that you've ever tasted before. And it is all based on those old ingredients that her mother and father used to make the the saucer. The cafe out of you know she has like these little name tags. Like, you would see at a convention or something like that little sticker name tags that say hello, my name is, and then she'll put on their barbecue sauce, you know. That's how that's how she labeled, but you know. She manufactured and sold this for many years. She's an organic. You know she has a big gardening plot up there where she lives, and so she wants to get the sauce back out on the market. So maybe you will see it there but Marcus back to your question. One of her many future projects is going to be a cookbook wants to do her family recipes, and so have things to do when you clear ninety I guess. Always leave. Always look into the future. Yeah, that that is. That's how she doesn't Allen. I would love to taste some of that food. The barbecue saw some of the other stuff that they made. It just sounded so delicious when she would describe the families getting together and cooking together and eating and. Up in an Italian Jewish family, we did a Lotta that cooking together as well with the Italian food, the seven fishes dinner, making sauce from scratch all that stuff, so to hear about it from other cultures, and some of the Yummy, food and other cultures is just remarkable, food, rocks and its. People and I love replicating barbecue sauce, and so I WANNA taste. We're GONNA have to send an email to daisy and see if we can get on you to send us some Rbq, sauce. Here's our guest Preston Lauterbach. His book is brother. Robert growing up with Robert Johnson. Co written with Robert's half sister on, see Anderson Mrs Anderson to you and we WANNA. Thank you for your time and we wish you all the best with this and thank you, thank you. Thank you for helping to restore part of Robert Johnson's lost legacy with your book. It's beautiful, thank you so ledger, and thanks to you guys for giving me the opportunity to to chat it up a little bit. Thank you very much for Shang what's next for Preston. What are you writing next well? I'm working on a screenplay. Of My Book Beale Street Dynasty. The story of the South's first black millionaire, and the birth of that iconic street, so you know hopefully happens with I'm sure. All right I'm recoup Marcus in the darkest. We'll get your next time on the imbalance history of rock and roll.

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They got a lot of bouncing they play with. How about. how about your detroit lions there. Okay do what i say. Detroit lions identity. What comes to your mind to be. Read the papers. I know it comes to your mind. Well when i think about the lions i'm not a fan of ca- tricia matt stafford throws for four thousand yards. Every i've had these talks with. Herman moore by the way over the last few years and it's a team that along the cleveland. Browns haven't won a championship since black and white film and also team along with the cleveland. Browns have never gone to the super bowl despite there being more than one hundred teams going to the super bowl. That's right so when you say. San francisco oakland and even for me from michigan. I i can have an identity. You have an identity. San francisco fast athletic quarterback oakland tough. You know all of that Sue black lions identity. I don't know it's just it's just like you said it's out there definitely here. That's why i'm talking about the dolphins because it's exciting a little bit. But i was thinking also about college i basketball because you brought it up. You know tom izzo. Has this young guys. i don't know. I hope he's send a good care. He's in his sixties. he's not elderly. Hopefully he should be. Okay yeah yeah. I told people what. What's more school oakland. University and a great campus got to kind of spoke by worry about those guys. I know it's scary. I saw dr turning the corner. It's worse than ever. Agila nacho louis. But the little caesars arena was supposed to have one of those games of the tournament. So that's kinda yeah cancel. That's thanks i know. Hey robber man always good checking in with you got a little bit of a bad connection so i'll let you go but let let's talk again soon. My friend. okay. Thanks for the call. Robert and lines are available at one. Eight hundred seven eight play humour games to look out from sunday and He mentioned the forty niners. This was a game that was pretty easy to pick. It's hard to beat new orleans in the dome and san francisco going in cell banged up without their best defensive end without their quarterback but surprisingly in this game was a bit of a special teams disaster for the forty niners. Because i admire the fact that they kept things pretty close. There are just too backbreaking mistakes that they made from their punt return team who muffed punts and the saints not only recovered both of them but they got touchdowns off of both of them and in a game that the forty niners lost by two touchdowns twenty seven to thirteen that really prove to be the difference that niner defense really stepped up. I think this is another case of a team. Being a little overconfident but new orleans lemme get two hundred and forty yards on offense. Drew brees knocked out with a rib injury and you know raft of the raider game. Go over since the niners was a one five start and i was trying to watch the cardinal game and then that and to watch the highlight on my phone and i turned to the niners looked like they were done but there's tastes hill fumbling the ball so now the niners have it and they're in new orleans half of the field and there's just a couple of minutes left but if they score we're going to see an onside kick here and so i'm like oh. This is worth what as soon as i said. This is worth watching nick. Mullins threw interception in the end zone. She'll say all right all right. I thought it was still had life but now this game is done on seven thirteen. And then how about new england over baltimore. This is one that i got wrong. I thought that new england would lose at home to the ravens who had more talent but the ravens had basically no answer your new england's ground attack and it was right out of the gate damian harris ripping off five straight big runs and then the game went on and then the patriots really dominated the game as far as just Who was tougher. Physical the physical. This is physical team that and then baltimore eight penalties on the night and it really came on the other side of halftime. When new england was able to score twice and go up by double double digits and you can say that the weather was a factor. And that's bs because they're both east coast cities. They're both east coast. Teams that play in this type of crap and it shouldn't matter yes. The ravens were the better team on paper. It just never materialized. I think ballot check to be really happy about this upset win. Not just because they won but offensively his unit just dominating on the ground four and a half yards a carry one hundred. Seventy three yards rushing and damian harris career high prior to have won it was a pretty complete offered by the patriots. Who were able to impose their will. So once again you know i went through the afc. The teams that can be still alive. And i said the only team. That's not in playoff position right now. That's still alive. Are the patriots foreign five. Do you think they're gonna make a run. I don't that they can looking at the nfc. Obviously the afc. The nfc east is a really the embarrassment of the united states of america. Even if you're not a football fan you never heard of these teams here embarrassed that we are more than halfway through the season. A three five and one team is in first place giants at three and seven washington and dallas at two seven. Yes the cowboys and make the playoffs. In the north green bay seven into the bears whiteley slipping away but still at five and four are in with a shout. Detroit at four and five has a prayer minnesota. Three and five is done n- orleans at seven and two with tampa bay at seven and three right behind him. Those teams are playoff teams atlanta at three and six just trying to get some credibility after firing everybody down there. The head coach and gm carolina said they have a new staff there at three and seven have their tailback and they have their quarterback and has gotta get everything else and then in the west. My oh my a three team tie arizona the rams and seattle all six and three but because of tiebreaks. That goes cardinals. Rams seahawks how will say. We'll hal about that than the niners are games academic. Well i should say two and a half games back four and six. San francisco's done. If san francisco would have won that game they'd be at five and five and you still have to keep an eye out for him not at four and six now us. You could say well or the wildcards coming from. There's going to be four. There's not going to be a wild card in the east. That is a factual statement. Which i can make now. There will be none between tampa bay and new orleans. One of those will be a wild card. There's one now we need three more three more. Okay rams seattle and then who bears. Well this is where the niners can say. What if we overtake bears. The bears are five and four and were informed six but can they really say that when they have jimmy garoppolo out. I don't think they can say that right now. Jimmy garoppolo is out. And by the way i got an email earlier from jr. Sorry address it. But i'll give to you right now. Are asked me who i think's gonna win the heisman. Which is a fantastic question to ask. When you think about you can't even include the pac twelve. You can't even include conferences. That didn't play. Obviously but i guess it would be kyle. Trask i mean isn't everybody's saying that. Now look what he did in the swamp. He's basically one of the best quarterbacks in florida history and has had so many great ones at us and winky and he was florida state. Tim tibo for to stay tim tibo. I mean it's just. I would have to say not amy. Trask kyle tries could be the guy right now all right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come on back lines available. You still want wanna jump in one. Eight hundred eight seven watching me tension the streets of our nation's capital. Cj papa fox news violence and unrest in the streets of washington dc. Police say they arrested at least twenty people with a final numbers coming out later this morning. The million man march designed to show support for the president and mr trump driving by the throngs of people on his way to play golf at his club in virginia. 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I think really is at on friday afternoon. It was announced that zelina vega has been released from. Everybody is well aware what's going on here in the situation with twitch and onlyfans etcetera etcetera and they released her so normally when. Wwe does something. Like this. I shouldn't say but often what happens is it's friday afternoon and they do their little news dumb. They announced that somebody has been released then. Of course it's the weekend and people go do whatever the weekend and by monday there's news and this and that and the idea is everybody forgets about it by the time the weekend is over. Well as we'll talk about after the break. This one did not fly under the radar. This is a fight. That vince apparently once. I don't know why but we'll talk about unions something that for twenty years. Now i have stated you're never gonna see in professional wrestling and maybe we never will but wheels appear to be turning so we can talk about that also this weekend. I was all excited. Talk about talking shop of mania thought about it all the way on my walk home to the studio. Yesterday was all raring to go. And then of course we didn't ever show so talking-shop of media. We can discuss that today. Chelsea green injured on smackdown stuff to get into. So we're gonna kick it off when we come back from the break we'll take your text messages etc back. In a moment observer. Live charles management team is currently a team of one. Yeah i got a meeting but you keep up the good work. Few fix that display for me. Did steve show up today. it's time to hire. I need indeed indeed do the moment you sponsor a job on indeed you get a shortlist of quality candidates for my resume database indeed delivers two and a half times more hires than the other branded jobsites combined according to breezy. Hr two thousand nineteen visit indeed dot com slash credit. And get a seventy five dollars credit for your first job. Post terms and conditions apply. 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The air zelina vega was released from me in the wake of this release sag after a president gabrielle. Carteris gave a statement. Monday following how. Her organization is viewing those within pro wrestling given spectrum. Sports three sixty. John elba she said wrestling is as much about media as it is sports and we are going to directly engage with members of this profession to help find ways for them to protect themselves. As more people reinvest in unions and his more working people are harassed by employers. You don't want to protect them. Say after it's committed to doing what we can tell. Professional wrestlers secure the protections that they deserve they have one hundred. Sixty thousand actors announcers broadcast journalists. What about me dancers. Dj's news writers news editors program host. Puppeteers so i guess the folks firefly funhouse could be involved in sag. After recording artist singer stunt performers voiceover artists media professionals dude. Why aren't i in saint right now. Specifically didn't mention by name so the organization falls through with their efforts every major organization could be affected but how and to what effect remains to be seen. So honestly what we need is we need somebody involved in sag after to basically come on his show and talk to us about it. Because i don't know enough about it. Obviously there's been a love discussion about w. e. unions sag and what all of this entails. And i don't know enough to talk about it in detail. But i do know that a unity now boy in this has been the case with this hold twitch thing that we're a little bit collective bargaining and some support on your behalf would be good now i i wonder if you're wwe w. r. o. H. right i'm almost wondering and they're not going to do this. But if the union talk starts to get a little bit more thick i wonder if you try to be open to what essentially would be a nfl pa type of deal where it is. A unique there is representation for you. It is a union but it is in the auspices of wwe because one thing is going to be. Who's going to be the shop steward in this. Who's going to feel all these complaints from all of these people up and down the card. You know there's gonna be a whole structure that gets set up and there's going to have to be people who really know that business. No the locker room know what's going on now as well as what's happened in the past and you're really going to have to bring in some people where i wonder if individually like i don't know what you can do across the board for any wrestler that starts out of training school and and wants to join the union and wants to try to get vested. I'm not sure how you going to be able to do that with them. But with wwe w and h it almost seems like that may ultimately be kind of the best way to go where you can have a bubble for everybody in the business which you have is just for specifically your sport or in this case your promotion. You have people there that can actually help you out that way. It's having a sag or an after. Come in very it would be interesting. I know people go why they should join them. They should join. What's the one in las vegas. It's the culinary arts union. I believe it is where they have a lot of power but it may be a situation where they ought to look more sports in specifically that way and see on how to do things because again this is going to be a process. There's going to be a lot of people that want to see. This happen overnight. You don't snap your fingers and make things happen. There's a lot of things that need to go into effect and it's going to change the business it dramatically in how you look at. It says i would like to see. Lena vegas a baby face with her. She goes eight w or not not. Just due to current circumstances are standing up for unionization but because of her real life backstory. Father passed away nine eleven. Yes i've i've mentioned this before. I have absolutely no idea. Why like virtually. Everywhere that zelina vega has ever gone like. She's always for trade as a heel. It's baffling to me. They even did it impact. It was the weirdest thing they actually had like a nine eleven and she was part of the opening deal because her father passed away nine eleven. She's totally total baby-faced during this deal and literally the deal ends and the pay per view continues and then later she comes out and she's a he'll bizarre but that's that's for down the road because we don't know what's going on friday and this is actually what ended up happening. She tweeted something about ice support. Unionization then like twenty minutes later w announces. She's gone and so i thought well you know. She tweeted something positive about unions and so they fired her. That's actually not what happened. What happened was it was all blowback for the twitch and only fans in and deal because a lot of these as i said before. I don't know what any was making me all right but and this is not changed. I mean the rain. jordan's they're making so much more than zelina vega. It's not even funny. I don't know what zelina vega was making. I know that the women are making more now. I know that four or five years ago of someone. You knew what the women were making. You'd be aghast. Okay but like for some of the women this twitch stuff is this her onlyfans. They're gonna make more money doing that than they are. On their. w downside guarantee with no touring and nothing so it comes down to well. What can i make more doing. And do i feel that. If i quit wwl still make that even though. I'm not a w performer. She apparently decided i can. I can make way more doing that than giving it all up and just making my downside so they had the blow up or whatever the company releases her she knew she was going to be released. Then she makes her tweet after that and then of course everything goes as everything goes and we see about the me released and everything like that. But that's that's the way that everything worked out. And as i've noted a million times the situation is different for if rain you're starts twitch stream or aj styles aj styles the best example. Aj goes up there. He's doing his twitch deal. He's playing some video games and he makes x. amount of dollars off that that ain't even approaching with this guy's making as a contracted w. e. main event performer. So you tell an aj styles knock it off and he's done but you tell some of the women a page was just basically getting paid to be paid not even on television. A page or as lena vega individuals. It's better off for them to get out a year down the road. I don't know if there'd be be making that kind of money probably won't be but i don't know maybe they will be but anyway we'll get mike shots. Talk more up to the breakup of her life. 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Alvarez and mike zimmer devi on the sports byline broadcasting network show bryan alvarez here wrestling observer live provide the also wrestling observer dot com man on the twitch stream right at the end of that match. We've seen ten thousand times. I saw clip from inside the temple theatre. What's that all about Is that all about well. I mean at some point. There's going to be more to come. But i guess we'll see so i was headed back to the studio yesterday. We walked to elementary school up the road. The kids were playing. I said i gotta go gotta show to do was walking back to the house and i was thinking about talking shop amenia and you see show mike. Did i see this show. I'm wearing my chad to bed official. Camouflage hat on Right now and i can say this about talking. Shop mania to Have you ever seen a snuff film. Oh mike i haven't so as a real snuff film. It's a guy would believe that if there were snuff films out there that Those have more social and psychological redeeming value than talking shop of mania to did. Now that said it was fantastic. Looking at the recap on the front page. Actually by josh nason. So if you're listening. Johnson you're about to get it here and he's not about to get everyone's entitled to their opinion so she wanted to read what he wrote. At the very end of this review he wrote a lot he says all right then. I think you really have to be a listener of their podcast to really enjoy these shows. I love absurdist humor. But i didn't find any of this to be that funnier entertaining. One thing that makes it hard is yada quality as it's difficult to hear most of the inside jokes which really make these shows worth it. Okay in any case he says if you like. We're wrestling stuff. This is for you. Keep your expectations. Low well duh. Honestly guys wouldn't have it any other way. So am i in the minority here or were there no issues on the show. What is he talking about the audience. You hear audio issues. Some of it was quiet spots. They poked fun at that. They made fun of the fact. That paulie was talking so quietly. It's like talk to the camera dude. You know where. Yeah i mean. It was not the most audible but that was kind of kind of part of the whole thing it was low budget was exactly what it was. And here's one thing. It seems like there's a lot of people around are generally age that you know had television classes in high school when they started to become a thing and things like that where there seems to be a segment of us that i thought it was. I thought it was hilarious. I thought he was great for what it was. The sight gags all that sort of stuff all that i mean. It's just i. I don't know to me. It was a universal thing. It was just one ridiculous thing after another it was you know the. Let me give you a plan. Listen everyone okay. 'cause i thought about this all the way home yesterday. I'm sure so honestly when the show is over and it was like this is the first one as well as like. I need a few days to process this house. My first thought when the show was over and granted this time i drink i blessed l. Sober i busted out my absence from the from the christmas show. I took a shot at turn this thing on like there's a retribution joke at the very beginning and i was embarrassed that i laughed at it like if i was sober. I don't think i would have laughed at it but having taken that shot i was like this is funny. So here's the thing at the end of the day. Comedy is subjective. Right is subjective. So if you watched the show i mean it's two hours of what they think is funny. And obviously if you do. Two hours of comedy specially pro wrestling comedy. I mean some of it. People are going to certain people will find funny other things. Other people will find funny. But like you're you're never due to our comedy show where every single person thinks like luke gallows did the first time and he didn't laugh one time so he wouldn't got a bottle of wine and watch it again. It was funny if you watch it and you don't think anything is funny and you don't get it josh here. That's fine. that's fine the thing about the show to me. There's a couple of things that i think are very important. They build this as the worst pay per view of all time or the second worst pay per view of all time which by calling the second worst pay per view of all time. You're already telling people it's better than the first one so you gotta be careful what you say you could say. It's the other worst pay per view of all time but the fact of the matter is they sold you. They told you going in that. This is going to be a bad pay per view. It's funny but you can't go into it expecting that you're going to get full gear. So there is that part that even though everything is subjective. If you buy this show expecting full gear bro. That's on you. What they sold you on was. It's a bunch of us getting together. A bunch of stupid ideas were actually film. It and put it on pay per view and retain advance. It sucks and so that's what you should expect. And so that's what they delivered. Now the thing about it. That i liked it. It's the same thing that i about. The first one in fact i loved it about the first one if you watch the videos that we made during the break. It's the same thing i said. Last time he watch how shoulders torelli became vinnie. V at eight two hours. But it's fifteen minutes of a bunch of stupid ideas and we thought they were funny and we put on video at the end of the day. Either like it or you don't and we thought it was hilarious. I watch this pay per view and to me. The best stuff about the pay per view is the commentary when they're reviewing these horrible matches and dude freight train. I'll get them in a second commentary during these matches and the main event in the ball for a ball match. It was the same thing with the boehner yard match. These two guys loudly talking to each other and doing commentary for their own match as they're fighting. I was in tears and the thing is everybody makes the comparison to mystery science theater. Three thousand where these robots are watching these bad movies and they're doing commentary on these bad movies and everyone thinks it's funny okay. That's kind of what it is but there is a difference and the difference is on mystery science theater three thousand. They're reviewing these bad movies. But they didn't make these bad movies. Okay what this is is mystery science theater. Three thousand if the robots rushing responsible for these awful movies and so not only. Are you getting chad too. Bad and gallo's not only are they burying these bad matches but they're also telling you about all of this horrible stuff that they were responsible for. Its twenty twenty and like a lot of the younger listeners. Out there i mean you guys are spoiled with the indie shows that you can go to nowadays. I mean starting at about twenty fifteen twenty sixteen when when. Wwe fell off. I mean you could go to any shows and you could see some big stars and some great workers and some great matches and granted. I mean if you like way out in the middle of nowhere and you probably saw wrestlers like freight train. But i'll bet there's some people listening to this right now maybe many where they have never gone to an indie show and saw someone has god bless him. Horrible is the freight train. But you know what i did. And when i was a kid i wasn't even kid. I was like in my teens and twenties when i was going to local initials around here bro. There were a bunch of freight trains and these matches were horrible and we would laugh and we would watch him back in. And that's what i got on talking shop of mania. I got to relive those days. Where i would watch a match with a guy like freight train. I'd be crying about how bad it was. And they're bearing. The guy is like as a worker. I'm watching this freight train. It stuff look so bad but at the same time. It looks like it hurts. That's the worst dude. I'm watching the commentary for these matches. I was dying and then the main event. I'm watching all the insight stuff. That's what i loved about it and quite frankly if you don't get the humor or you don't think it's funny fine everybody's different. Everybody has a different idea of comedy. But like i said after talking shop of mania one what it does is it brings me back to the late nineties early. Two thousands where. I was surrounded by crazy. Guys like gallows just these crazy dudes. They drank their crazy ideas. They went out there and did it. And you laugh and buddy night would sit in the back and watch these matches and he'd be just burying everybody and we'd be cried through. I love that stuff. And i miss it because in some ways the indie scene is is so good. Now that you don't get that stuff unless you go to like out in the middle of nowhere and there's a whole bunch of freight trains but i missed that stuff and i loved it. I laughed at the commentary. And i laughed at these workers and i laughed at the main event. When they're doing their inside comedy. And i laughed at like the stupid stuff like i mean. I wouldn't even say what. I laughed at but a lot of drinking but i liked it. I enjoyed it. It was fun. And that's what i that's what i want. I just wanted to two hours of having fun and enjoying the stuff. And if you don't like it that's fine. Don't buy the next talking shop of mania. But i will because i enjoyed it. They gave you what you paid for. Oh that's the other thing. One more thing they call this the worst or the second worst pay per view of all time but you know what they came on the show and they advertised a bunch of matches a death match. The only way to win is the other guy is killed a ball for a ball match the losers the testicles are going to be ripped off they promise all of this stuff and they delivered. They delivered everything that was advertised. Which is more than. I can say for some other high-end alleged pro wrestling companies where they promise something and then they just screw you 'cause it's pro wrestling and they feel like they can get away with that talking shop a mania. Whether you like was advertise. We'll get more from mike after the break observer live. This is jesse's o'reilly auto parts story as a nurse. Not making it to work was not an option of driving to the snow with my wife. Blades struggling just feel state. So i pulled into a reilly auto parts. 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That was never the intention. The point was if you like the onion delight naked gun d like what's the wayans brothers do. Do you like that sort of thing. That's what it was and it was just go out there and have a good time. This is part of that. Wrestling has different faces. You know there is a lot of different things that you can take in. If you're pro wrestling fan this just a show by guys. Having a good time with their friends putting something dumb up there that they found funny and that other people might find funny too. And that's it. You know the people that tie themselves into knots over this and get so upset about it. It's like i i. It boggles my mind. I don't think hopefully for their case or getting a lot of blowback. Because i would assume that everybody that spend fifty dollars on that tape review on on friday night on saturday night you know. They were completely satisfied. James says i watched the show. Is i did the first and yes. There were quote terrible wrestling shows with just the right amount of alcohol. They were both hilarious. Well worth the money. Sometimes you just have to enjoy wacky while loaded. Well yeah i mean. Maybe i'd hate it. If i wasn't drinking but i entering that much on the thing i've learned my lesson you didn't even have to be messed up for it. You know he didn't have to be old. You know smoked up or whatever it is it was there were enough. There were enough sight gags and things said under breath and a maggio's things. Where do that he does. It were so good. Scott steiner trying to do math and it started with. I mean it started and ended with pretty good cameos with that. You know chris. Jericho guy. Chris jericho the beginning at the end. You got alex koslov in there which was great. If you're an all new japan fan. They played that up with with him. And romero the had all of these people in there and then it ends with scott steiner at the end. It's like i mean i again. I don't know what anybody could have been asking for out of all this. Although i'll say this. I wonder how many hearts stopped when paulie looked like he suplex. George north Possibly to death. By the way i want to bring this up here. Everyone's gonna save money ws payroll but i what bothered me even more this. This is going back to something totally different here. But i do want to bring this up out of fairness but bother me even more than blade kicking out of the elbow drop. Did you notice that in order for ut to successfully reach the top of the ladder. The referee had to legit steady. The ladder i get. It could have killed himself otherwise but why even bother with the spot especially if it's not the finish well my friend out of fairness they do this all the time and wwe with the referee also holding the ladder the wwe. They shoot it so you can't see the referee holding the ladder. But if you watch the replays where sometimes they show the replay from like fifteen different angles in fact you will see the referee and sometimes in multi person matches other wrestlers helping. Hold the ladder so this was not just an awa thing but hey like if you wanna complain about some complain about the fact that the guy had a flying elbow off the ladder and the do kicked out of the very top of the ladder. That's the problem to me percents. Talking-shop amini was hilarious. I rode the high off. Smackdown admitted that great laughter on friday night any notes. Yes they got randy orton israel brother. They sure did boy. Oh boy god bless the guy but anyway a couple of other news notes here. All those years later dr getting revenge back you know. So chelsea green debuted on smackdown on friday night and the first thing that happens is she's doing a match that she is opposed to win because the winner of the match is going to go to the women survivor series match at survivor series. As you debut and win and what happens is she is on the apron. She gets bumped off the apron and it is a cardinal mistake. Never put your hand down but she lands and she puts her hand down and she re breaks the wrist that she had already broken and had surgically repaired so like whatever they put into her wrist to put it back together again. She landed on that and it snapped and broke so at that point. She's out of the match. And live morgan. In the ring with natty and to meet is on the outside and the match pretty much i won't say totally fell apart but they were clearly waiting for chelsea to come back in. She's not coming back in. Like live keeps looking over. Like what the hell's going on. Where is this woman and they do some spots and to me to jumps back in the ring and live. Morgan hits her with the codebreaker pincer. So live morgan. Who originally was going to win the match but then it got changed. She ends up winning the match get so now she's going to be in the sary's women's match coming up this sunday actually so for those of you waiting for another Twittering that'll be the sunday at sucks. Hopefully she gets it repaired and it gets repaired such a way. That would just break next time. Hopefully give it another chance to. I mean that's the other thing is just the awful timing of the whole thing and you're gonna be out for a premium. God knows how long she was last time. I can't remember but you know whatever they have to do pins and screws wise to get the thing right again and rehab and all that sort of stuff and then you get back in there and you never know what the landscape is going to be so. It's just really disappointing for her. Because it's a missed opportunity. You just you hope something is. Therefore she's talented enough. You know obviously she you go and she's been a lot of different places so hopefully she gets another crack up there and wwe after a significant drop from our one to our to last week the smackdown reading this week held up pretty good two point. One four two million viewers on fox down just three percent from the overnight number last friday and obviously the overnight number for whatever reason earlier in twenty twenty whatever the overnight number was it was down on tuesday now. Whatever the overnight number is it's up on tuesday so the final numbers going to be better than this. But last week there was a gigantic. I a second hour drop because they put the sasha bailey match in the first hour. I don't have any idea why. And then people watch it and shut the show off this week. There was no huge match in the first hour so it actually did two point one one one million in the first hour two point one seven two million in the second hour so smackdown. I mean the shows good. The numbers good. They did rush a seth rollins rey. Mysterio blow off match. Because seth is leaving a couple of weeks. 'cause mickie should be given birth pretty soon. Here can do the math. Everybody and then. Next week they're blowing. Up buddy murphy. And seth so i guess it buddy murphy is gonna get the win there and they put buddy together. What does this mean. Where do we go now. Wedding seems rushed. You can have the evil boyfriend or the conspiring boy however to play this thing and also you know obviously it would be giving them too much credit to actually think ahead or something like this. But if you have an an end idea in mind. For when seth rollins comes back or something like that. I mean you kind of know what frame than that. You would have to kind of draw this thing along. I don't know how it's gonna work. You know it's just one of those things where it's one of those relationships in the story started. This is forever so obviously somebody's going to turn on somebody whether it be a lien. Her family may be dom is involved in that or it happens to be and that would be out there. Play would be dominic going over to become a heel and go after his father. I think their stole him being attached at his father's hip and being on that side of the ledger and building him up. That way i still think is a much better idea than just having him. Flip the script to go over to be a. He'll i think that puts him in some some really really deep waters. You know especially if you know after time. Wwe like everybody you know. We never thought that they would. Kind of ignore cain velasquez again after using him and they did so you never know what. Somebody's whole life span is going to be in. Wwe so i think the more he can stay with a sponsor of the more. They built him up that way the better off he is going to be. I hope they don't decide to go in that direction for years as megan barbarians appears to talk show. Mania was my favorite part. Did i love the cameos in in top. Never like. I just couldn't even believe half the guys that showed up on the show. They actually had a budget time. That's the other thing like with nathan was talking about the call or whatever it's like do did you watch the first show and i actually asked. I asked them one of the interviews. We did this week. i said. I can't i can't figure out if like it would be better or worse if the production was better and the answer is i much prefer it with the better production. I mean there's a charm to the production being so awful. But at the end of the day i got to watch the show for two hours and i would rather have good production of a bad show than bad production of a bad show so that answered the question to me. I don't know about everybody. Else is a little bit too much cable access last time wrong round that way so much better job done and they said they head catering is rocky noted they were. The foot was put down with the production. Just funny because like they got the first one. Apparently in demand wanted some changes for that second one less personal massaging delays. Actually there seemed to be plenty more of those laced across the show. What did you think about Shed underground their shit shit. What the hell was it called. What are you talking about. During the show the raw underground spoof of shadow underground shed underground. They called it. There were so many spoofs on the show like the call off percents nikita kucherov. Shoot kids by the way. At least one of them the russians that were taken it seriously because as they noted this is the real part of the show. All right so this person says i think that mrs definitely cashing in the briefcase on raw tonight. During or after the mcintyre match enrollment squashes him on the pay per view. This happen talking-shop mania for this. This has happened before for two years straight as change the wbz championship going into the pay per view and twenty seven teenage ab gender and went on to face brock at twenty eighteen daniel bryan beat aj and faced brock. Okay i do want to talk about this way. Moved on from talking trump meeting. Because it's matches tonight okay. Ms has stupid briefcase. The idea of ms is w champion is like bro. It's twenty twenty. What are we talk about here. Now there is a survivor series match coming up. And you've got champion vs champion. You've got right now. Randy orton vs roman reigns this coming sunday. So these are the two options. I think that we've got here number. One ms cashes in at the end of this match and he steals the wwe title and the show goes out the year with the champion and then at survivor. Series roman reigns just absolutely destroys the ms and then the next night on raw or a couple of weeks later whatever. Ms loses it back to randy. Orton drew mcintyre. Or whatever. you wanna do. The idea of mrs champion is just appalling but if the idea is just we gotta we gotta beat him. We gotta get the briefcase off him. And we'd somebody for rome kill. We don't roman to be drew. We don't want roman to beat randy. We don't want them to be roman. That's how you solve the problem. There is also one other way to solve the problem. Which i like better and i will tell you after the break observer life. We are the jet destroyer network any debt. You have credit card chance student. Loan debt call now for free information. That helps you destroy your debt. It's great advice plus when you make this free call now. We have destroyer experts. Ready to help they can show you how to destroy your debt and get your life back on. Track debt. Problems don't have to be overwhelming. 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The show bryan alvarez here wrestling observer live Wrestling observer dot com. Here is your other solution to this. Ms problem and your survivor series problem. The easiest solution is not the book. A bunch of champion versus champion matches. We're wanna mess to be beaten. But they already did that. So here's what you do. Whatever happens happens tonight. No title change or druids title. Doesn't matter ms does not cash in sunday. The champion versus champion match roman should not be beating. Drew roman should not be being ordina origin. Being roman drew should not be beating. Roman nobody should be doing a job here if you want to use titles so in the middle of the match. Both guys are down. Mrs music kits cashes in during the match. Just like seth rollins did to make it a three-way wrestlemainia several years ago. Why does he do this. Because both guys are down at his odds increase exponentially. Because there's two possible champions for him to beat and win a title if he beats romi becomes champion. If he beats drew a rainy he wins at championship. So he's trying to up his odds by cashing in during a champion versus champion match. But then of course. He's a comedy geek. He tries he fails n. Either roman spears him or reindeer. cao's him or drew claymores. Whoever's in the match you beat the ms you give everybody a finnish you give everybody a cash in the cash in fails misses a fool and neither champion gets beaten because wherever ms beats the ms so every problem just like that right sure yes is so hard they make it that way. Right here everybody. Hey i want to thank you for listening. Apologize for yesterday back with a vengeance. Tomorrow tuesday talking raw could be a fun time. Thanks mike is always callers and listeners. Every the studio twitch next time wrestling observer live. You're listening to the heartland newsfeed radio network line at hartland. Newsfeed dot com. 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Still singing her heart out mr tori spelling dean mcdermott. Fifty four a. She was denise huxtable on the cosby show. And now as mrs jason momoa lisa fifty three years of age and from the dark knight and from crazy heart for which she got an academy award nomination jillian hall is forty-three though some of the people who celebrate the sixteen th day of november birthday. If this happens to be your birthday hi we're the four freshmen. And we just wanna say the ten thousand episode of amos and andy as was broadcast. Sixty eight years ago november sixteenth. Nine thousand nine hundred fifty two on this monday edition. Classic radio theatre america. Are you watching this election. We saw some of the most blatant media bias in spin ever. Now there's a new. Tv news channel newsmax tv. It's the fastest growing tv channel in america. Almost ten million people tuned in last month. Find great shows with greg kelly. Mike huckabee diamond itself. 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It was close to five thousand because From when the show started from nineteen thirty four until nineteen forty three the show allegedly had over four thousand broadcasts almost forty one hundred but then they went weekly from one thousand nine hundred forty three until nine thousand nine hundred fifty two well. There's no way that you could have an additional five thousand broadcasts gonna show aired once a week so the most could be. As far as i'm figuring is around forty six hundred forty seven hundred broadcasts but that doesn't really matter. It's radio it's pomp and circumstance. Let's listen to amos. And andy and their ten thousand broadcasts as they recap some of the bigger stories. And they miss an andy history. This broadcast sixty eight years ago today. November sixteenth nineteen fifty two. You know what that music say esa amazon music say good health to all from wreck saw ten thousand independent rick. Drugs of america proudly present transcribed. They must sundays. Ten thousand radio broadcast written by. Joe and bob mosier and featuring jonny lee lillian randolph. Madeline leave red flag. Herbert rawlinson lilly. Bruce eleanor harriet. Leo claridge alexander's music. Yours truly harlow. Wilcox and starring. Radio's all time favorites. Freeman gosden and charles corral amos. Ladies and gentlemen tonight is quite a memorable evening in the history of amos and andy the ten thousand time they have come before the microphone and to take you back in spirit to those early days. Here is the voice that was a long associated with amos. And andy bill. Hey seems to be like it was only yesterday. I was introducing amos. And andy only yesterday on the boys i came to new york from the south i remember. They took a furnished room. One hundred and thirty fourth street and the first day amos came home he found andy doing a little figuring. Seven million eight million ten million blue ending. What are you thinking over on amazon. We is in new york. I'm going into broker business. I've figured on the money gonna make you. I'm counting on bill and other j. ping pong morgan. But i think wall street and is a little too high done. But i tell you what we ought to get some kind of job. Yeah that's right. We don't wanna keep on nibbling on you know. I got the evening paper here. We could look into health on it as and see what the got in there. Yeah gimme that thing. Let me see. Look at this news item here. It say we is and cheese to france and all the frenchman's is happy about it right here. Unders headline thousands cheer as limber arrives in paris s lindbergh. Oh the want ads inside the back you look at. The show is a lot of ads for taxi. Cab drivers you think we could get a job driving a cab them. No we got four hundred dollars then. And i was just thinking you know. Maybe you could get a cab of our own by a cab. Aimless check and double check. It was soon after this. The is andy. Met one of their fabulous friends. It was andy who met him. I one afternoon. Andy joined the crowd on the sidewalk watching a new skyscraper. Going up in downtown new york show puts these bills up high. They really Hey excuse me for protruding. Mr. but ain't you got all of my watch jane west year. No so why does yeah. We'll solid google cufflinks. Mine hooked on your watch. The lucky i don't remember what my grandmother told me before i left home. I got watch chain touched them. Onto where soon as i felt my. Bvd's creeping up on me. I know median dangerous name. The stephen george king fish stephen king Yeah they called me death because is the head of that fraternity. The missed it nights to see. Do i as andrew hogg brown from maryetta georgia. See me and my friend amos jones. Just got the new york with thinking about buying a taxi. I got three hundred and forty bucks right here in my wallet. Got three hundred and forty bucks. Vote-buying attacks a lucky. You run into me. It just happens that. I got just the rakoff lawyer. Yes i am a pocket to curb on new taxicabs. Yeah well i notice fella you call the king that you met give you a ball handed but the top producing is all right off their why you drive into the breeze. Come right into and hit the passengers into fees. Well no that's all right amos and you know what we can call it. The fresh air taxicab company of america inc as good and start up the thing here and take a little ride. I wanna hear that back at engine boy. Let me open the door. Egli pick up the door and in the backseat. Let me get. The thing started only listened to that back yet. Motor like the bears as net cattle around as he's boiling over older. Go to radio gab. Radio to ended aflame. Yeah let me well. Despite the depression the boys didn't do too bad with a fresh air. Taxicab then one sunday. After services love came to amos jones the minister standing at the front door of the church talking to a young girl as a approaches Excuse me so. I just want to tell you how much i enjoyed the services today. They sorta hit home with me especially that taught about the golden rule. Thank you you to know each other amos jones. This is miss taylor. Mestalla ruby tailing. Yeah hey do. I'm glad to know ya thank you to you. Hope you'll be here next on the ass obvious. Thank you and goodbye. Get back Is you going down. Just we mind. If i walk with your mus taylor a ruby. Not at all mr jones and it was just about that time. That love came to andy brown but in somewhat different surroundings something about the sweetest prettiest gentlest flower. I ever had this big. would you just manicure. Yeah but you know some. You is the cutest hunk of female gender walden along wasting your town. I is a winning and those men when it comes to love is gonna take man to kill it. the flame. the flame All lamp lighter. Kind kinda cute a sugar daddy. That's my big requirement. I can see you as a woman that is my one big all razzmatazz. You know my name is andrew raise brown. Just call me clean. Nothing caused as much comment in those days. And his romance with the fascinating widow madame queen one month. The wedding was on the next month. It was off but finally back around thirty two something happened. That led up to the most exciting event in the lives of amos and andy. Andy and madame. Queen signed a marriage agreement in the presence of her attorney. Sit down here with me. Tell me this and wind coming along all almost to witness a week from today i finally going to ask eight myself with orange blossom man. See i knew madame queen as a widow. Whatever happened to her first husband and he was lost at sea or something. I think he tried to spill whale and fell off the poop deck known this marriage madam queen maybe all right but i think i know somebody who's gonna take it a little holiday and that's your secretary. Hey you've been stringing her along for the past few months that's right. 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Seattle businessman and william said afterward they discovered discussed in a general way the possibility of his taking a cabinet post williams who head of the national citizens for eisenhower committee during the campaign said in response to questions at a news conference he built his background might qualify him to serve busy through secretary of commerce or secretary of the interior. He declined to say whether eisenhower actually had offered him a cabinet position. Senator william nolan who california made clear. Yesterday he would not hesitate to buck. Senator robert tapped ohio republican floor leader in the new senate. Fifth post is now held by senator styles. Bridges of new hampshire and bridges said only the threat of a rupp and terrible fight for the job among fellow republicans can induce him to try for it again house. Investigators said yesterday they're reluctant to think. The justice department tampered with the saint. Louis grand jury probe of the internal revenue service in nineteen fifty one but they wrapped officials were displaying. Definite lack of a sense of values official said yesterday president truman's primary purpose in his historic meeting with president-elect eisenhower. Tuesday will be to make certain that eisenhower's informed on major world problems and how the president president ministration intends to deal with them. Informs familiar with plans for the station said at the same time it will cover several other points of great importance victoria south korean troops once more astride. The crest of sniper ridge go chinese reds back into their cage yesterday. Four hundred miles north of the crest allied fighter bombers pounded the honeycomb of tunnels and trenches called the yoke the underground network at the northern end of sniper ridge is the jumping off point for chinese attacks in the blazing central front ridge battle in hartford connecticut. He was dazed by a bolt of lightning which not the pistol out of his hand. He was arrested on charge of carrying the weapon without a permit. Black gold has been discovered in the small community of eunice missouri. Prospects of an oil boom the town folks in a dither and in chelsea massachusetts. A tombstone firm is erected a billboard alongside a highway bearing a picture of a gravestone and bearing the words. Drive carefully we can wait. Though some of the day's top news stories reported in the newspapers of sunday november sixteenth nineteen fifty two on your radio amos and andy which continues now on classic radio theater. Mr blew the something. I want to tell you. I think i know what it is. Mr brown i read in the paper about your coming marriage to madame queen. Gone this blue the dino since getting saw about it. I don't sign the marriage agreement in front of the lawyer. Andy i'm not angry. I think you wanna define his man. I ever met Andy all my life. I'll cherish the memory of the time we spent together these hours in the office and the way you used to hold my hand and we lingered and hall over those long good night will i Amos i wonder how binding that greeted the newspapers and tell him. I don't give green gate nuptials as just been nipped well if you remember adam. Queen didn't take the news sitting down the next handy new. She had started legal action. You mean madam. Queen is going to sue you for breach of promise. Yeah hey messiah scare. She is done engaged. A law firm steel stone. Hard rock and flynn is the roughest combinations since notre dame let the four horsemen luge. Espn after me. I'll say it is has been heightened for ten days trying to serve a summons scared to go home and jump in the closet. Every time i see a stranger s. Say wait a minute. Andy comes somebody across the street. That might help you know it boy. I need help. Who is it. It's your friend fred. Glendale the newspaper man. Oh yeah good old fred. Let me let them in here on in federal boy van you come over here to get the newspaper story about me. Busting up madam queen. No no boy. No no i asked who in the newspaper business through with the newspaper. Give it up very what happened. Ended up wanted me to write a gossip column telling scandal about my friend in town. But i wouldn't do a dirty trick. Thanks to my friend so quit. That job don't quit the job. Well now that's what i call the gentlemen and a true friend. What kind of job you got processor. I hear someone indian code. What a great brand from sixty eight years ago. November sixteenth nineteen fifty two amos and andy on classic radio theatre balance of nature's fruits and vegetables in a capsule changing the world. One life at a time. Balance of nature helps every single person if they're athletic no matter if they're young it's their own and for me. After retiring i started taking balance of nature. And i've never felt better in my life. 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And andy ever got a more exciting grip on the people of america on the trial of madame queen versus andy brown. Who got and the lawyer. Yes i remember the d. The md indicating fish walked into the office of the one and only allah garden. Jay calhoun walkout who. Oh excuse me. I didn't know he was busy. Be richard minute boy. Own phone hit song to plan amount of head and you take little. Trials lay new orleans. You have anything you ever. Oh my advice. Whatever you do. Don't sit out. And i do meet good back and this is my lawyer. Gig is then. at last. The fatal day arrived the courtroom was packed. With press that spectators the whole country awaited the feet of andrew. Eighth brown as the trial got underway. The court will now come to order. I'd like to the spectators that although this highly controversial case the court goes tolerate outburst from anyone in this courtroom is the council for the painting. Ready we already. you're on. It is the council for the defendant. Ready for painter present. His case scared. They got all women jury looking. I'm sitting there and the dude. It ought to be fair fair setting up daily twelve cancer front of a rat hole. Believe me is the rat there. Waiting to pounce on hard rock is going to speak. Now wait a minute. Your honor ladies of the jury. We intend to prove that. My client madame. Queen has suffered the mortification woman scorn of jilted womanhood the financial loss of an unsuspecting widow. Who put her trust in a scoundrel. Andrew h brown. I intend to prove to this court. Jury that fishes reptiles yes. In the next two days there was a long parade of witnesses for the plaintiff in the heat of the trial. Even some of andy's old friends testified against him including all people. He's old buddy. Brother crawford crawford. Would you please tell the court just what happened. When you introduce the defendant andrew h brown for the first time to your twenty one year old niece. Well he came to call one evening. I introduced him to my niece. My wife and i went into the kitchen to get some coffee for them. When i return three minutes later found him with his arms around hugging her. Did he offer any explanation for his conduct. Yes he said. He was teaching her. That you too. I see that you accept that explanation. Well all i know is that was did. You did sue the japanese that they have a wonderful time. Brother crawford your witness conflict auto cross examined him but not calhoun del. What happened with the other. These yes madam. Creams attorney left no stolen unturned to prove his case. Andrew eighth brown was the philander even four lightning at the take the stem. Now lightning you're employed janitor for the fresh air taxi cab company at the time of certain. Miss blue was point secretary by andrew. H brown Yes that's what. I was during during the time of this blues employment. Would you say that. Mr brown spent more of his time dictating tour or making advances. Well all i know. Is that end. The two years he was there she asked me to shop on a pencil. Only ones that's all. You may step down. Then i ask with next witness and i would like to go then came. The long awaited bombshell on the third day. Madame queen took the town. If there's another disturbance for madame queen is testifying. i ordered the courtroom cleared. Proceed counselor madame queen. This document marked exhibit a. Is the marriage agreement that mr brown signed in my presence. Is it not yes. Thank you madam. Queen your counselor and was we read his own round thing. Now matt green. I ask you a few questions that you think chicken. You're in the way to eight hundred. No mass recent up. I can go counselor to me. She didn't get out off the state. Well the next day madame queens attorney rested his case and algan j. Calhoun took over for the defense. Took the stand and the best he could and then came the king. Fish king fish stevens. I think has given on account of paul brown sterling reputation as women concern. That'd be all. Let me get out from here. Sit where you are stephen. The you know the meaning of the word perjury perjury. Do you know you can go to the penitentiary deliberately. Lying to protect your friend. You realize that giving false testimony is a criminal offence. Do you realize that everything you've said here can be used against you now. What you have to say about that mrs stevens. How does that go about two hundred states evidence on the last day of the trial. The defendant andrew h brown took the stand and he had a pretty rough time of it especially in the cross examination. When madame queens attorney read. andy's love letters. Listen to this next one. Honey baby sweetheart darling you you is everything in the world to me my precious one when i look at you. My poor heart melts like hog fat on a hot griddle. I cannot wait until i make you. My child bribed sweet. Baby doll signed oopsy mr brown. Did you write. this letter. Seems like is seemed like but she more. Like i do like i ain't the next day. The testimony was at the name and the judge made his charge to the judy. Ladies of the jury in view of the evidence presented by the plaintiff and the futile attempts at the defense attorney to refute the charges. I can hardly see how the jury can fail to bring in a verdict other than guilty as charged. I hereby order that the jury be locked up until such time joy. It's been out for two hours. I don't know what to do this. Yeah come back now. Filing in the jewelry box. Look at queens. Have over there. They're going to throw me in jail and everything else they the jury have. You reached a verdict. Yes your honor. We have we members of the jewelry. Find the defendant. Andrew h brown holy mackerel. That's madame looking. Ask do yes. When madame queen screamed and fainted in the courtroom people everywhere wondered why she had screamed very shortly. The judge spoke to the courtroom and we reached a turning point of the famous madame queen breach of promise trial. The court has just has attained. Why met him queen fainted. She fainted because she saw her. First husband the husband she thought had been lost at sea seated in the back of the courtroom therefore in view of the fact that madame queen already has a husband. The suit against andy brown for beach promises invalid case dismissed wonderful. End the anti congratulations. Thank you thank you thank you. Thank you look folks northbound this exhausted here. Please stand back there. Yeah come on over here and sit down here. Oh yeah amos. I have done it but i'm gonna tell you one thing. I learned my lesson. Women's has been the ones that got me into this mess. Women's got into trouble all my life. And i tell him us i promise you right now. I am never going to look at no woman again as as i live. Well that's fine and i Meekly what is it yet. you want something. Well i've been sitting in the court through the whole trial. And my sympathies have been with you through the whole case and i just wanted to tell you. I know that a man was such beautiful. Soulful as just couldn't be guilty could eaten going to find her name and address. That is the cutest babe all from sixty eight years ago november sixteenth nineteen fifty two amos. And andy here on classic radio theater. We thank the advertisers who pay the bills for this radio station to be on the air. We think this radio station. Who has so many choices that they could make. They choose to give us this time and we greatly appreciate it. And if you're a businessman looking to put more business into your business. Contact me through our webpage. Classic radio dot stream there you can stream our shows on demand learn more about classic radio collecting and contact me. Classic radio dot stream and whether it's local regional or national. We can try to put more business into your business. 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Old deer hunt. hey coming. The aldrich family written by goldsmith transcribed and brought to your family by families. Today are pretty much the same as families just fathers mothers and children never changed very much from one generation to another and the ever present spark is always a typical teenage boy like henry. All seen is the aldridge dining room. The time is morning. could you please pass the mary. And now they're peace henry. Just please and father. I please have another egg. That'll make three eggs. Yes modern your normal appetite is rather frightening but now you're eating like a man with a purpose she wears. I do have a purpose bother. I'm building myself up. I'm on the debating team. You're on the debating team dear. Well i'm not exactly on mother. I'm really just trying out for it. They're having the trials this afternoon to go out for debating. Well it's it's just one of the kind of thing that appeals to me mother. Would it be too much trouble to the cana sardines sardines for breakfast. Everyone says that fish is brain. Food isn't that's all father didn't keep them from getting caught. I can finish your toast. Mary here you can have it thanks. Please pass the marmalade. It make the debating team. I don't have to weigh anything. But i don't see any point in going to a thing half-heartedly well there if you do make the team. I hope harriet will come to hear you speak. You just won't believe her ears. Why should everybody be so amazed. Just because i'm anxious to improve my mind. I think everybody ought to improve their mind. No sense in overdoing it though. Why don't go overboard father on. Which side of the debate are you speaking. On which side you have. Two sides haven't you that. They don't even have a team yet. You really think you can make the team hope so mother. I hate to be doing all this eating for nothing. It'll be entirely wasted. What would you excuse me please. While i run upstairs and get to know espn sam. I'm simply delighted. I wouldn't be a bit surprised of made a good debater. He's all of a chip off the old block. He a quick mind. Thanks fast on his feet. What do you suppose that is mother. Don't bother to come to the door. Anybody waiting to willie. Henry had be down in just a minute. How does he feel this morning. This is all richards. The a little mirvish. Well i should. He be nervous while trying for the debating team. It can be pretty nerve. Wracking didn't act like he was nervous. Like it either. Are you going the team or no. I'm on it. I'm gonna do you eat today. Yes to keep yourself in good condition for debated all. I'm not on the talking end of the team on. Which in are you on the manager. Well i'm sure that's a very important job. Willie what i really went off for was detracting but my legs went back on me. What are the duties of manager. Well for one thing i correspond. You got us phone. With whom with all the other managers we get together and correspond to write letters you know. That's quite an accomplishment. You do it very well willing. Yes ma'am i worry about a quite a lot. I knew persuaded henry to go out for the debating team. Oh no sir. That was on account of alum. Yes sir allen standish what does she have to do with it. She's very pretty but she's also on the team who she is mother. She's that girl that can talk your head off. That's the one ellen standing. She's very pretty though but she is the one that talks a lot. Sure everyone except henry and he figured that if he could get on a team she talked to him. That explains henry sutton craving but the finance aac yester- what she's pretty mr rich. It's been a great pleasure for me. Just a manager allen allen standish. Well i have. I just finished my tryout for the debating team. Oh you sure. I thought perhaps to be glad annoy maybe on the team with you. You're going down the hallways. I'm going into the library here. Oh henry's value. What is it homer alan. I just finished my try out. Are you going out for the team to sure. We'll all be together and goodbye goodbye. Goodbye ellen ellen. Henry they said you want. I should wait in the classroom across the hall until the try-outs are all over. Let's go in boy. I sure hope. I make the team but what subject you talk about. When he talked about how i hope. My mother grow tomatoes last summer henry. It isn't pronounce tomato. No in parliamentary procedure. It's tomato tomato tomato. You ever heard anybody talk about french. Fried batat does. That isn't the point henry. Common people call a tomato. But when you're trying to make the debating team it's tomato. Hey i got some great news for willie. We make the team. The faculty is at right. Now let you know as long as they tell me. I willy willy. We're gonna ask him henry part of my speech over as a matter of fact homeowner a lot of people who aren't common say tomato hand. We all i know. Is that if i had to stand up before three members of the fact of the ib mighty sure. I said tomato goya the part that makes me mad homes. I could've just as well said asparagus and been on safe. Ground eight dollars the meaning. Zoeller what did they decide. Willie yeah what. Well one you is gonna be awfully disappointed. We are house which one it is. Now listen hamry. i'm the manager. And i'll make the announcement when i'm good and ready sides shouldn't make any difference to you have decided he didn't make no the like homer's voice better they did. No kidding. joran carries water. They say they can hear your voice even in the last roll the balcony. Lucy adams also made the thing. Well i gotta go back the of g henry. I'm sorry she there's nothing to be sorry about homer. If you wanna to know the truth. I'm glad. I didn't make it with lucy adams on it and everything. Allen standish is on know homer. We've been friends for a long time. Haven't we sure why. I was just thinking. You've done a lot of nice things for me so i'm gonna do you a favor. You are shield. Or i'm willing to take your place on the team just out of friendship. I won't charge your sin. Why would you want to get off the team. When did i say that. Why should he think you'd want to be honest. Henry what are you saying. What willie you made the team. And i didn't know you're to homer. I am henry that gets rid of lucian adams though it does and she's on the team to who's place do i take allen. Banishes allen's yes. She just resigned their homer nadia. See what you've done as homer spot says. She's entirely too nervous to debate. Congratulations oh hello lucy. Isn't it wonderful henry ongoing home but home. I haven't you heard louis. You don't think debating is gonna make you nervous. Do you know. I feel wonderful. I think i'll resign henry. You aren't gonna resign justice. We've got our first debate scheduled for win. Really didn't know for a week from next friday night. Been corresponding about his last august. Who we debating with middletown highschool the subject as resolved that the steam engine has contributed more to the progress of civilization than the horse. When which side are we the horses we take the negative sure. We all believe in steam engines for henry. Don't you think the horses done more than the steam engine lucy. You don't seem interested lucy. i. Just don't think i'm going to be any good at this but i can't convince myself convince a whole lot of taurean full of people that's the way i felt it. I hear we have cookie. My mother bay. No thank you. They have fudge failing feelings. I'll try just half a one here. What the horses done for agriculture henry. Sixty percent of the farms in this country still use horses rhyme after that cooking. Sure here in henry. How did the covered wagons across the plains horse by horse. Forefathers didn't know what a steam engine was lucie and you always have cookies like this current how interesting. It is beginning to show some possibilities. Excuse me for reaching in front of you when you get through with those cookies him either some more in the kitchen. I wonder where that's really really. Oh that you yes. Is henry their hand me. She was what is home or one here or home. Can't you get away from her. Henry jackley i do i. Could you know what. I dug up in the library this afternoon. All about the ill headless the. What a person. Yup it was a prehistoric harsh and stood less than two feet high was used for. I don't think it was used for anything. I think we ought to mention it. It'll show dug into four. Does four imagine we have another cookie each. Thanks lucy cocky homer. Did you ever think of this. How do they speak of a steam. Engine horsepower henry. That's wonderful. I down loosely. Don about the uk sure team into their studies. Aren't they november. 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Nineteen fifty to the aldrich family. Henry's on the debating team. This tra chairman honorable judges worthy opponents. The subject we've been asked to discuss this evening is resolve and raider. You'll have to wave your arms waving my arms father. Go on when we are through ladies and gentlemen it will be clearly seen. The horse is one animal that cannot be replaced. The debate begin this evening and boy father. We're essential win. Where was i the horses an animal that cannot be replaced. Yeah what are steam engines made of ladies and gentlemen of steel and iron and steel and coal and hardly i get them out of the mines. Tell you how it will be a pleasure by a horse father. Don't you think that's going to knock him for a loop afraid it will. I prepared this whole thing in a week. And what makes police go. Round belts and what our belts made of from horses highs. Then what was. The first machine ever made a cart. What will the card a horse. And how about paul revere. It's common gossip known by every school child. How he saved america with a horse and then father i go on and they end up with a long speech about the. You'll hips. yes sir. It was a prehistoric. The harley came up to my knees. don't you think it's pretty good where it has won a two week points henry. Father what you heard. It's only one third of our argument. We've divided into three parts. I cover the horses. A historical contribution home recovers during the president and lucy covers it from the female point of view. I just press your bussard shoot for you mother and when you get up on the platform don't turn your back to the audience and the cd shiny five raise one or two questions. Something about my speech. The puzzles you in the first place iron is not hauled out of mines by horses but by news. Well we'll argue but when you get right down to it. I'm you'll sort of a horse mule as mu we can show you book that says a mulas a horse and like to see it. Well anyway i. I don't think that's the point. The question is which has done more for civilization rest. Supposing you're worthy opponents reminded audience at the first card was not pulled by a horse but by a man no horse or horse. that's opposing mention the fact that very good driving belts may not only from horse hide but from cowhide. Father you keep you keep leading the issue. What i'm talking about his horses all right. Let's talk about them. In what way did. Paul revere horse help promote progress. Well it stands to reason. You hadn't had a horse. He wouldn't have been able to spread the alarm before the enemy came. Supposing to wait around until the steam engine was invented and by what means was the enemy approaching on horseback in other words it was a case of one horse trying to get away from a number of other horses therefore the horses all cancel each other up and have nothing to do with the case. Did you say that again. Father little clearer. I'm a lawyer. i don't have to be clear. Yes mother to go upstairs and walks already dinner on the table. Dinner she mother. It's a funny thing but all of a sudden something happened to my stomach. Watch the matter if you lost your confidence. I just wish. I hadn't got mixed up in this darned debate. Now there you go upstairs and get washed. You'll feel better. Yes mother and father are going to sit down in front. Are you saw. Don't do that bother every time i see your face. Forget all about horses henry. Please go upstairs. Es mother i feel just as though i were sitting on the guillotine sad that i over here you criticizing. Henry's talk simply pointing out one or two of his weak spots. There's nothing wrong with that now. Just brew about it. You know how henry is. I'll answer the phone navy. The debates being called off san is a very good example of how you've under. Alice i give you my word. I was trying to help the ball. Well i'm quite sure that if i had to stand up before an audience several hundred people. I wouldn't want my father to upset me just before. I went on father through on the phone. Yes san you're gonna wear your best suit. Aren't you to go over to the high school. I bought a new hat after all. We don't want to be a disgrace to henry. And i do want henry to win if only because of that ellen standish well mary that ellen got off the team just because henry was on it was his lucy nervous. Who are kid well. Don't you be notice henry. Your father and i are trying not to be what they call you about is to say she so scared you can eat her dinner well. You should have told her to have a cup of tea. That's all i'm gonna have going up and finish wash before you go something more wrong with my speed. What i'd like to explain that. The only reason i criticized your talk was to find out how much you believe that. Oh see if you don't believe with all your heart and soul that the horse has been more important than the judges won't believe you all. But i do believe his father when i suppose a little sentimental about it but it isn't just for my sake and for years that i wanna win. It's really for all horses. General henry can. I speak for a minute. What did you come from. Willie i just met the middletown debating team at the station and boy. They made a mess of things. Well we're taking the negative or the argument. We will soar they. You mean they've taken our side. Yes can you imagine are dirty trick like that are could've thing. Art have happened. Well something seems to have gone wrong with the correspondents william. It was really your fall henry. I'd like you see all the correspondents i've handle on this. I bet you'll make one or two minor mistakes yourself. Are you gonna do about it. Well mr bradley. Our principal says our team has to take the other side the other side. Willie i have to be a traded to the horse Now getting back to the troubles of henry laughter working on a debate for ten days. Henry has just learned that his team has been preparing the wrong side. The scene opens in the high school. Principal's office the time is that same evening mr bradley. This isn't fair to the team. It is even fair to the audience. The mistake was made by our manager. The least we can do is take the affirmative and go ahead with the debate. In the meantime how about the horse side of the horse well under set it. Mr bali memorize their speeches word for word. I've even learned a whole you edgy. The horse can't just give the whole thing and inserted the word steam engine is that of course. Can i n ray. Why do we have debates well in order to develop our faculties for thinking and reasoning. Mr bradley. I'm no good thing like that. I can't argue. We're doing a pretty good job of it right now. But i'm losing developing your back. Yes lucy kimmy. Could we ask mr bradley to do this. Why don't both teams agree. Ride the stock. The horses made the greatest contribution to civilization and then with the judges decide. Which team is the most sincere. Sure mr bradley. That would be interesting. The middletown team our guests and the least we can do is have a difference of opinion with them riding the school nurse here. What's the matter funny thing. But i have chills a headache. Joe's the headey. Yes sir my jaws heard. I think i'm coming down with the mumps. Have last fall homer with mr bradley. Just been talking with the middletown team. They don't feel half as keen about the horses. We do. Why don't we and give them the steam engine unrein homer. You have exactly thirty minutes in which to prepare your arguments middletown. We'll take the negative and central is half the high school. I think it is. We take the affirmative. 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Speaking of man's best friend the horse the steam engine instead of barak for my false six minutes i believe i can prove my point practically less than a minute and what is more lays gentleman went a lady who lives in chicago the hat that she wants to new york. How did they get it to him by horseback. No when the next point. I wish to bring to your attention. Is that little run of a beast. The this was never good for anything. At all ages gannett you ever heard both sides of the arguments and the rebuttal over the negative the senate they'll deemed if not utilize all of its original time and i do not know whether any of its members which can't take positive the rebuff hold if so we will hear from a henry. Mr chairman centerville. High school has several things to say. My worthy opponents have tried to impress on you. That if it's worth the horse we wouldn't have any steel or iron with which to build steam engines. May i ask where they ever got any such ideas. That horses aren't used in minds. Mules are the next point. My worthy opponents says the first card was pulled by a horse. Or here's information. A man pulled the first card and now the glad to ride and steam engines and relax. And how did the middletown june get here this evening by another steam engines and another point. My opponents would. Have you believe that if it hadn't been for paul reveres horse. We wouldn't be here in this happy carefree land but what was paul revere choice trying to get away from more horses. It was horses. Ladies and gentlemen that was causing. All the trouble. And i asked you. Is that what you could call progress. No no a thousand times no the affirmative rests while the judge is retired to try to reach that decision. A very difficult decision. I'm sure the orchestra entertain us with a number which they had rehearsed before they discovered their own team has to take the affirmative. It is called light cavalry. Overture and having the judges reached the decision yet on stage. Right now i don't know out. I thought he talked beautifully. And he certainly look better than any of the boys. On the middletown and gentlemen tomorrow is going to announce the decision after careful ration- the judges have voted unanimously. In favor of the negative side is the negative time henry laws. I would like to congratulate. Not only the winners but our team as well in spite of the fact that we lost never have. I heard finer examples of extemporaneous speaking. If i hadn't no to the contrary i would have said that. The last speaker henry aldridge at prepared his rebuttal. That mr chairman asked if i happen to be one of the judges of may i ask was the negative middletown. The negative was well. The manager who gave us are slips of paper mache. The verdict on apparently got things twisted regardless of which side. They had a decision to shake. I just wish that ellen stand issues. Mother could have been here tonight. Your mother how are you. Take your hands because you father that we got the decision. I was worried for a few minutes though. I was afraid. Middletown with mentioned the fact that most of the british troops not on horseback on foot on horseback dot. So far as i know you well. Gee whiz sabah you've seen the morning paper lists watch the news. Listen to this. The capacity audience last night centerville high school defended the negative side of a heated battle in which they were particularly affected in arguing for the affirmative. Henry aldrich kept the visiting opponents completely. Baffled to the very end as to whether he favored the colonists saw the british andrey is joined the cajun father henry. Are you eating more. Cook his after cleaning out the cookie jar. Looses house. well gosh father fella gets hungry all over again after walking home Andrey wonder i'm always hungry. All i ever do is walk. Walk here walk there. If there's a hidden meaning to this walkie-talkie conversation please bring it out in the open macos. I'm going to bet didn't meaning father. I think the last time you acquainted me with your walking expeditions. It ended with sales. Talk to buy your car o. You won't have to buy this one father. It's free now. Plymouth convertible first prize in the big plymouth contest wasn't too young myself but i figure with my help. Ups itch to openly denied. I'm tired tonight. Father the contest doesn't start till thursday. That's when the new plymouth comes out. All right miami thursday and we'll go down and see the new plymouth now. Will you get up to bed. Yes father just as soon as i finish these cookies. Boy i new plymouth convertible h- the aldridge family is transcribed. It's written by clifford. Ghost henry is played by bobby. Ellis and homer by jack. Grimes mr and aldridge our house. Jameson catherine ross. Announcers dick dudley. Everybody remembered you have an important day. 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"He actually used to sponsor a webcam so it used to say get sell four one one dot com on a graphic at the top of our webcam longtime ago. So we've been intimately familiar with with cell phone in any way. The bad news was he couldn't take care of it anymore due to some personal changes in his life and i talked to him about it over the summer. 'cause so i adopted it like an ailing pat and so you know he wanted to give it up and i didn't want to see a die so i said it's the perfect project for the sugar. Free church to take on it. It dovetails perfectly with our mission of fostering peace and it's especially important in the presence of what's been going on with black lives matter. That's one of the things that got me excited about. It is imagined the day when some copies just happily going about his business beating and some some suspect in the in the hood. And all of a sudden fifty of the skies closest friends come out of woodwork because he managed to get out a cell four. One one alert before the tuneup. Be and you know. Maybe they've got their cells talking to each other so you know there's there's a lot we can do. In terms of actually having people physically come out of the woodwork. For you when you're in trouble and when you think about it your friends probably live closer to you than the cops do. Chur ender many cases. They also care about you. Yeah cops they're more likely to be. I driving by your house when somebody is robbing you. If they know it and way less likely to shoot cops are usually my eye of never had any of my friends. Shoot my dog now. Which is good because i probably would have shot but so cops usually live outside of the neighborhoods that police that's true and especially in cities and they'll get paid and the woman from the suburbs tires tend to live separately from the ship owners to For for obvious. Yeah yeah so The idea was to pick up cell phone one and make sure it didn't die because it was it was gasping. It had one foot in the grave. Basically with i mean with with alerts off. It's i've been watching the numbers and they they've been falling on so four one. Four one one has always had potential. It's just never reached. Its potential no and so. I'm hoping that you guys can make it know. Get re make it reach. Its i think that will shouting donations toward that. I've heard what we can do is make it work again. Yeah and do some of the decentralisation. We briefly talked about earlier and then also getting removing its reliance on third party systems and move it all in house and then then long road make it even more decentralized but to the very least get it out get it off the ground and right to do this around and then just slowly take the mind. Clinton get rid of the third party stuff and then release it as an open source project. Which is the thing that never happened before because it was always a closed source thing prior to this and i think it hard. It hurt the chances. It's going to have a much better shot. And that's the more important part because really the thing to do is turn it into a protocol so that multiple different programs can talk to each other. Just like liber. Dan talks to the youtube. Clone on the on the federal in federal burst federated. I was thinking how you're talking about. Yeah and so. The the only difference is that i think the optimal way to federate is for each client to contain a server which we might be going to be more decentral might be technically more decentralized to the. I don't know. I don't know this app. You know Lends itself to toll decentralisation because of you know adding in being gets tricky down the road but certainly federation should probably work sir there which is used towards avi. Yeah that's what you've been talking over a vpn vpn knows where you are. And you've got casino. Going with tour actually does solved that problem. If you build off tour that would actually wear or actually ron assistance or the anonymity offered the internet. Like i said you guys are getting a little too far yes we we have this conversation once. I think he has a show called Free that he does technical new. I wanna do technical talk. I see so so. Here's the thing we actually do that occasionally with people when i interview them but like when we do a regular show it's it's the news is lewis would come back and and co host with you once a month if you wanted to do just text top. Doh don't don't read articles. Let's talk after look. just talk. take as freedom decrypted. please go to freedom. Decrypted dot com. You can check out the program there. It's a once-a-week tech oriented liberty leaning liberty freedom friendly tech show basically freedom decrypted dot com. It's true all right so talk a heck of a lot more on that show. Then you hear me on this one. Yeah i sitting here. You guys would go off all the way into the weeds. Yeah three hours. The thing is that there is an audience. That would like that. Yes this side out of radio listening to talk radio so it's all your fault. You ruined me for radio. But i just this dropping this project in my lab this is i have to say this is probably the most tech friendly show radio show like out there hands down. I mean who else are you going to hear people talk about torture and vpn's and centralization and for anarchist point of view though. I mean this stuff is vital because even if you don't as a programmer you don't have to be a program where you don't have to be developing an app but you have to have enough tradecraft that the government doesn't kill you before the revolutions over so you know and so knowing how these things work and how to communicate is is so vital today because you know they're going to do a lot of things when the bugaboo comes and some of those things are turning off. Gps which they can do very turn off the satellite. You mean turn off the satellites and turn off the servers. Google will shut down when they're told to sure so. You're going to be able to download the maps either. Whether or not so there there are. These are huge issues. If you believe like i do that there is a that. Basically the government is on the verge of collapse. And when can it be over start. Yes i'm ready. Six zero three two well cell phone ones now ready so let's not initially in this thing so we can use it to organize and win six zero three two eight hundred sixty one sixty six zero three two eight three six one six zero. Of course you can bring up whatever you want. We'll get back into new year's eve party around the world including right here in new hampshire within epic one last night and we're coming up on free talk live. We're bringing people to the ideas of liberty. Every day from wrestling superstars. Like glenn jacobs you guys really are having an impact. I leave like. I said a lot of where i am now. 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This is the liberty radio network broadcasting the latest liberty oriented audio content. Twenty four hours a day at l. n. dot fm Free talk live and you can bring up what you want here. It is new year's day. We did a very episode of free talk live last night which was prerecorded earlier this week and that was because well pretty much all of our co host with the exception of marquette. Choose not employed or not in new hampshire in florida nasa as edgy. Anyway we're at this very same party and it was quarantine space disco. You can go see the party. Flyer the promo flier that we had printed up for it. It's been posted over freaky in dot com. Tells you a little bit more about the event and the purpose of the event was to throw a party because well. That's basically legal now based on all. These so-called governor's emergency orders. Yeah it was kind of a funny feeling for me last night. It was fun because there are a couple of times when we when we thought the cops were coming and we're sitting out in the truck. Smoking weed gaffes teenager again looking out for the cops looking over your shoulder and it's really paranoid a well. You're not paranoid if the really out to get that's true it's kind of interesting. I didn't really expect to the cops to show up. But i mean i did when. They started lighting off fireworks. I didn't and i was gonna bring the boys happening midnight by the way. Yeah the problem is the problem is there's too many of us and i don't think that if we were really throwing as they don't wanna pitched battle right right. Don't wanna take risks that is going to turn into a gunfight of them against one hundred right they out. The problem is that we outnumber them in terms of just the number of people there and they outnumber three to one. They're bullies. they only want to pick on people that are of smaller number than that's that's so And the town itself. It was in certainly. Didn't have the number enough how they would police grounding and you can see how they use those numbers if you look at the progression of the sununu protest. Yes where you know. I we show up and there's like four cars then we show up nurse twelve cars i. I'm told that last week. Thirty thirty cars out there twenty cars. This was the weekend or monday night. They outnumbered they definitely outnumbered the protesters. Yeah so you're talking about the candlelight vigils provincial vigil video is up on freaking dot com of that actually vincent i had him take footage multiple people with cameras reporting on monday night. And so there's all these different videos out there and it's hard to get a grasp of what really happened just from watching one of them. So i had vincent take all those footage and put it all into one videos. If you've been wondering what happened at that candlelight vigil watch that it's about a twenty minute long video that gives you an overview of of what happened there but yeah there were about a dozen cars on the scene initially and then another dozen cars showed up with the cops that were sort of not quite full riot gear out but they had batons and they had like a mask and a face shield on and they were like ready to fight. They were in a fighting stance. They saw. Yeah they looked like the yes. They were ready to go to war. Yeah it's just these were like these are peaceful light vigil right away guys standing around and complaining. They didn't even get to light their candles. That's how fast these cops swooped in on their wedding. It was so disturbing me as early attacking speech. You're right to protest. It was disturbing but it was also reassuring because now we know that for sure that the governors of pussy how i already knew know now we know for sure He had a little criticism. Yeah oh did you hear that That sununu cancelled his coronation. Saying the reason to there's gonna be people there anyway. I i was talking to a guy to party last night. He says he's going to be out there on the seventh. You know scamming for anybody trying to inaugurate. Anybody gonna be inside. Secretly is basically afraid of like an eight year old boy. He was complaining about a trespasser. Only trespasser on the property was and. I'm not even sure if the kid was trespassing. Technically i'm not sure if you're far enough up the driveway and he wasn't actually happening because the until somebody told him to leave right. Trespassing sign yeah. They told me he left. That's true that's true. But what they were referring to The the so-called governor here king sununu said that a protester was arrested in his pack. Yeah arrested in his battle with a gun and twenty four rounds of ammunition. That doesn't make any sense. Nobody went onto the property way. Who was arrested in his backyard so his name was Schuyler he was actually at the party last night. Oh guy with beard. Yeah that was. The guy was talking to me is stone me. There is still going to be people up looking for the inauguration. Yeah so he he was. He wasn't okay so depending on what you think about easement. Soon he wasn't in sununu yard. He was right. There's a path that goes up on the side of the new house. If you're facing the house it's on the right side of the house but it's a public path. It's a paved path and it goes from sooners house. It goes over to like a town country store so people travel that path all the time and this guy was walking up the path with a group of protesting. He happened to be off the path a little bit but he was still within the easement. Yes so nothing more than a group of kids walking home from school. They got a little off the sidewalk. But the and the thing is this is this is new hampshire and the what the law says here is that you can walk up to a stranger's house and knock on the door and say hi. Just be neighborly. You have a right to go deep well you you can be told not to go on the property. And yeah until they've told you lies for bid right is permitted right right right. So he's being charged with criminal trespass and so-called disorderly conduct. As i understand it all for just trying to walk to the store. Try this broad and compass everythin- kind of law and this was was a journalist right now. Well i mean he's a youtuber okay. So they're journalists. Was there was a different guy there who works for inside. Nhl nhl journal. Yeah he got ticketed was okay got arrested. One guy got arrested. He's a youtuber. Uh-huh the other guys everyone else including bill dominica longtime listener here on free talk live. He called in about it on monday night. After it went down he got a ticket so everyone else. It was apparently nine people. That got ticketed. So every person was there for the messed. It would be interesting if all if all of them just showed up to court house and said sheriff throats in jail for a few times for something. They don't drop the charges yes they probably going to be. Doesn't it's not authorized to new hampshire. It's clearly and it's all at the national level. It might not be unconstitutional for a state to pass it or town. But because new hampshire require what's called homer home rule home rule. It's not a it's not a home state. The city doesn't have the power to pass ordinances that are not authorized by the states has not authorized this ordinance. The rsa that they reference in. I believe the minute at you too. Yeah but it doesn't actually authorise. It's deliberately targeted at speech is completely contrary to the first amendment. It is and it's unconstitutional at the national level. I think for different reasons but it would probably have to go up to a higher court to to to win that one. It's it's also arguably covered under the new hampshire's statue as part of our right to revolution. Yeah we're just refraining from being slavish. But they want you to have to go. Fight it out in court. They showed up there with the intention to arrest those indoor ticket those guys and that's they showed up there with the intent to intimidate and i think what we need to do is go back next week with more people and say yay give us tickets. Give us as many tickets as you want. Yeah he's coming. Believe there is a two o'clock on sunday. That's john hall. it's a town hall. It is however new hampshire. Yeah i i guess i probably shouldn't go into any of the details on that one but don't publicly But yeah trust me. they didn't. It'll traded so yeah as a matter of fact the way to do it is what i would say is. Let's after every time we go to court with these guys because even if we can't go inside we can still go back him up court from the outside forma crowd. Give him some. Give him some love. That's presuming. They opened the courts. Well even i mean eventually these guys are going to have to go to quarter. They can't find them but they may have closed court hearings. They may have secret courts. We already but everyone wants. My suggestion was going to be was that every day every day that they actually go to court after they go to court. Let's go to sununu house. And to put some stank on it. I think we should literally show up with signs and walk in circles so we are deliberately picketing exactly picketing nothing other than picketing and. We are in direct. Defiance testers on. Monday tried their best to do what they were told. Yeah don't do what you're never works. Because they just wanted to take me. They were just gonna tell them either way. 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Critics who really just don't like the idea of moving for more freedom. They think that new hampshire has been a failure. The new hampshire freedom. Migration has been failure because there are restrictions on copay. We'll screw them. Let's throw them out and get some new fans if if all you care about is covert. It's a failure but if that's not all you care about and you care about freedom it's not failure. We've got thirty representatives in the house. We increase that from the last election cycle from twenty four. It's only been going up. There's only on their argument. Is that the representatives. Were not able to stop this. Of course resentatives won't be able to stay there since enough yet. Yeah the there aren't enough and the game is rigged roy. Okay so the thing is the point of having people playing the game is that it gives you voice it. We are opportunity to speak. That's what i'm working for when i run for. That's the great thing about migration movement is that enables us to outmaneuver the standard the status quo and out. Shout them ramming. Imagine if two thousand showed up at sununu house there. Noggin be out there writing tickets. I don't think so. They're not prepared for scenario where people actually move because the average individual that they're used to having to deal with will not move for freedom. Sherline do anything for you. But the people who moved to new hampshire are active individuals. Because dave moved they're willing to sacrifice they're willing to get up and move to a place where their vote will count so it screams out to week and that's really the the the it does make it difficult because of course you need some rank and file people who you know. I mean half half of the people in the world are average or below through. You know if you can't appeal to those people you're gonna lose on the numbers and so you know. I think that's something that we need to need to improve their tends to be and elitist sound to the way people talk about anarchy that i think we need to. I think we need to let it go. We need we need to change it. A little clammy. I think i think you're talking about the left. Basically criticized well. I mean the thing is like i grew up. Go into grateful dead shows year now and you know hippies. They like build stuff themselves. They make stuff themselves little asterisks. You know most of net and then. There's the light the the socialist hippies who are there different kettle of fish. But they're both there you know. And the thing is one group of people is actually very closely aligned with us. I think one of the things that the the folks in the critics don't understand is that there's real power in migration in ingathering play of a like mindset together. There's not only the value of just having a community of people like last night we had you know seventy or so people that were hanging out together at an amazing new year's eve party in the police. They knew we were there. Because we were right on route one. The couldn't they knew and there were driving down that road all night. Yeah and there were disco balls. That had bright lights shined at them and spinning around. And so if you were driving by here the party going on the road party all night and you can see as through. The window still wouldn't come. They weren't my boss basis square. They were space. Discos balls okay Derrick derrick derrick jays bulls groovy very pretty singularity is accusing me of lying about what the people in the chat were saying. Well i don't feel like i was but if you wanna call in i mean those. Those chatters are always free to call in but they they love being in the peanut gallery where they just know. I hear somebody else to call in and tell us what do you think. Also we should send them some monkeys because monkeys love peanuts. I you know. I have to say your perspective seems to be what i have heard them say repeatedly in that chat room so i'm not sure what they said. Were you know what he's referencing. That was wrong. Maybe there was something that was a little bit different in this particular. Set to say this crap. Yeah this is stuff all the time so call in and tell us. When is you know it's like being weeded out. And sometimes they have to tell you why those grapes. Somebody else's here in new hampshire one of the earliest movers. Dave ridley is on the line with us from blue ridley report dot com dave. We're not we're not competing with. We're not competing with perfect ear. No no it's not going to be an easy road and we have to be perfect now to get to a point where you know we have some influence and then maybe maybe we can move the move to target higher know. It's not that high of a target right now and we can move that up and make it even better but you gotta start somewhere. Yeah i mean just being able to stand up against the really stupid tyranny if we could actually gather a thousand people as opposed to having four thousand here busy with other things if we could actually gather thousand people at the state house when we need to. We wouldn't need to do it. Very often Ridley what were you calling about okay. So around september. I did a video really just a glorified podcast where i was talking about. What happened to your co host aria where she was vandalized. Oh during her. God broke our during the during her sheriff's campaign. She had her car tagged with the word fag and spray of a penis on the side of her car. And they also slashed her tire and slashed the top on her convertible. But they didn't actually vandalize. Aria nothing i know. Oh good so as a as a result of me doing this video About two months later. Youtube deleted the video And warned my account my youtube account. Report you to use complex the report for what they say. Why they they they i again. I was just reporting what had happened. You know and obviously objecting to it. objecting the vandalism and Youtube accused me of the accused that That podcast Harmful or violent content was what they called. It really was recorded on violent. You know this is not a lesson anymore. This is why i am so adamantly against centralized solution ginger on the dave and they put it in the hands of a few and then the rest of us we just gotta take it. And that's not right. We need to. We need to move off of these services. Move for you to move off a facebook off of you know any centralized service basically. What do you producer. Dave needs to set up the machine and to sell the advertising for them. Go to start society dot com. I'm uploading the original versions of each each video in question To wear on their on bit shoot. Shoot me that's okay. As a matter of fact dude gimme a call off line. And i'll i'll give you some space on my website. Shoot another centuries all philly owned if they're not owned by you. Yeah they're owned by you or somebody else did you did you. Did you say you were also uploading to library somewhere. Yes okay. that's the way to do it as that's a decentralized thing but you still have to have your own servers space in order to make sure that you're always pinned that is optimal well anyway. There's more to the story Okay i guess it must have been two weeks later. I did another podcast equally. Innocuous basically just bouncing ideas around about how to how to get along with china how to avoid a war with china how to stand up to china you'll but it was pretty mainstream. You know just foreign policy discussion and that video been about a week ago. That got beleaguered and my they escalated their their of their status of the escalated their strikes against my account they bit. 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Now you've been on youtube for more than a decade. I think at this point and you have thousands of videos up there. You're kind of like a one man tv journalist. Basically i'll tell you what when i was doing activism more people walked up to me and said hey i saw you on the really report than anywhere else you know. This is the crazy thing is if ridley is like one of these characters like if there was anybody you know that you could. You could say you could put them up on a stand and say well you know they're not gonna get taken down even with these rules right. He's arbitrary rules that you know youtube decides on it would be ridley. He's not this particular. He's not like a racist. You know a big. He's not violent pro violence. He doesn't do any of those things. So when you start seeing people like him being taken down you know bad. It's bad you know that there is a information war as i don't like the word necessarily is how it's been used with alex jones but but but it's going on there are at war with you for your mind. They're trying to destroy your mind. No really to take us back. You're trying to complete the story. They targeted your channel for what was essentially a video blog. Where you just sort of opined about some issues about some news. That was transpiring. They blocked you some for some temporary amount of time and then they came out you again so they blocked me for this second the second video which they call it the strike I don't know why they deleted the video. I don't know why they punished me for putting it up. That was just talking about foreign policy And then then They say the next thing next time it'll be a two or three week ban on uploading. I'm currently banned from applying for a week and then the next one after that the next one after that will result in the complete deletion in eraser of my channel okay. Do you have ever wake me if i may. There's there's no way that. I can stop that probably because i've got thousands of videos. I have no idea which one they're gonna target next. Somebody's watching there's somebody out there. Who's reporting your videos. And then somebody a youtube is just along with the plug. Can you reproduce that channel elsewhere. That's the first question. Because if not we need to defend those assets by downloading. Did you do the better way to ask question questions did you. When you went on library dave. Did you choose the import option for youtube. Where library makes it super. Easy to everything though. It goes the whole history of channel imports every single dad. Yeah i did much as i could. They it's been preserved back to about twenty fifteen and we also preserved The years two thousand eight through two thousand ten. When who's we well. Basically meta cafe. And i had the questions about l. b. r. y. Dot com. it's up though. I also did lie. I also did library but they only cover you back for a thousand videos eventual easing back at the last the last basically the last thirteen hundred videos or are covered. Can you conduct. I would reach out to the library. Guys and say hey. Is there a way you did. They won't do you get those you are ells. I will lease download though and get them on our hard drive where they won't be lost a really a question for you. Have you contacted germy directly because just up another account and ask them to take more. What was the response from library. Jeremy's working on it. It's working on okay. You made sound like okay. Good okay so that's great because libraries a great. I don't. I'm not saying that. They'll know how to fix the problem. But i think they're looking into it. They do. I have somebody else upload the next thousand and have some work done. It doesn't work like an automatic sink. And there's no options when you make it work like that you can write something. That's i think. What jeremy's from youtube uploads it. The software already exists yet. Run it on a diff- run the same software on a different server. It's not software on your computer. It's their south. Have assistance system. Does it got the source. Don't say if they give me a copy. But jeremy said that run really just said. Jeremy said that that's what they were working on on all right. Thanks for sharing the story here with us tonight. Hey while you're on with state. What are you have to say to the critics who say that. Oh new hampshire's of failure because all these coverted restrictions in new hampshire there's other states without the covid restrictions. it's clearly been a failure to have thousands of libertarians. Moving to new hampshire churchill. Once said you know. Democracy is the worst form of government except for all the others In existence at the time. I think right now the the free stater migration is the worst libertarian movement. Except for all the which is to say there are no other. It's a true statement. Though i mean i would say there are others there. The freedom cells thing is something real migration movements not talking different. It's a different than just a way for people. Connect in within the bad. It's just not a migration. Yes they will turn into a migration over time share of rose dare bros. who's one of the co founders trying to get people to move to mexico. But that's not going to be one migration. It's one that i'm enthusiastic. It didn't work for the poco people that turned into. And i think this is a good opportunity. You're talking i mean. Did people just have blue personal dispute of course so and it fell harto place. Is there no community there or or no wa. So i think one of the reasons. I think we should talk about why you know when hampshire was picked and you know what makes it a success in why. It's even possible. That all dave. Thanks for the call tonight. I do doing other things you know. There was this moment back in two thousand one when the free state project was first form and they had a little yahoo group. And you can you go back. I went back. i know a few years ago. I went back and looked at these first few posts from the first two days while the free state project was under discussion and it was obvious just from those first fifty or sixty that this whole thing was new. Hampshire's race to lose. They're going to be a place for people to go. It immediately rose at the top under discussion. His new hampshire people immediately instinctively thought about new hampshire when they had this idea of moving to a small state for freedom was. It's not just a small state and it's not just to deep populous state. 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At the governor's house. There are some states that did are something more than that meeting us guys that i wanna be with their conservative liberal libertarian. The the problem is that every day is a moving. every every state it's every region in the world is moving away from freedom and and that's that's at the end of the day. You can't solve that problem overnight. You can only solve it by moving those who still believe in freedom to a region and changing that and you. Can't you know it's not that it's not that there aren't some things that are better in idaho or whatever where. I don't even know what states are. Are there like more more friendly to actually. I think one of the guys that is in of the thing is you could make the government completely disappear the freeze tomorrow. The free state project would still be necessary next year or the live free or die project which is my little My fork and the facebook brad. Jack door You know the shire society. Which is you're saying that you would need the freedom people to stick around what we would need them to stick around and we would need more to come here because what's going to happen. If and when the government falls is people are going to each have a particular way in which they need to in which they want to live that that meets their particular values and whether of that is objectively. Right or wrong is completely irrelevant. They want to do it. They want to try it and they will so. I need to let the people who want to be communists than i needed to let the people who want to be something other than to be the the the white separatists and the black separatists and they And the the the the followers of every set of ideas and persuasions are going to be out there in anarchy and generally my strategy has tried to be where the m- biggest number the biggest concentration of people that believe what i believe is. Because that's where i'm going to be happiest and more comfortable. I want to be in conflict with the world now. All the time rather be alone fighting. I'm fighting now. Because i'm fifty years old and it's my last shot and it's not and you know it's not. I'm not ready to make a shooting war. So i have to fight them by activism right and so i get it when people are saying. Oh well you know. New hampshire hasn't been great when it comes to covid restrictions in that is obviously in your face and it's anti-freedom and like i get that those points but while some of the conservatives are on the right side of the issue when it comes to mask mandates and things like that. They are going to be against us on a bunch of other things legalization of drugs and prostitution and gambling. But that's okay because all you need to do okay. Basically on on on issues in general democrats and republicans are going to disagree. And they're going to mostly neutralize each other so it only takes a small swing. Vote right which we have now in new hampshire. Do the promise not big enough now to the if it. If it gets to twenty percent right we will. Basically if we can stay unified. We will be the most powerful political force. Ironically enough we will be state. It's it's a starting point though okay. So it's it's something more than anyone anywhere else has but it's still not enough. To overturn some exists. And unfortunately the emergency order statutes. They've been existence for probably decades here in hampshire which of course illegally arguably unconstitutionally gives the governor all these so-called power. We've been talking about how every state every place in the world has been going in the opposite direction for two hundred day all have worked for years right. It's it's just because we happen to have a governor in power right now. who is. I don't know if. I want to say prokoviev or whatever you however you want to phrase the branch davidian yeah. It doesn't necessarily help. It doesn't necessarily mean that we don't have a lot of people in new hampshire. Who are against what he is doing. And the thing is not having covid restrictions would not be the best thing that could have happened to the free state project. The best thing that could happen to the free state project is they heap these these restrictions upon us and we stand up and say no that is the real victory then. He need sununu to fight. I might be looking at this from a very optimistic perspective. But i think the kovin situation is the crackdowns and other states has been one of the best thing that's happened to the migration movement in we've had a lot more people living heirs. I i don't i. I'm not for the practice. Obviously but you know to the extent that it's helped us. I'm gonna. I'm gonna take what i can get. Well i mean always as you move toward a revolution the government will be getting worse and worse and driving more and more people into your arms because you know it gets harder to her and harder to rule the more descent you have to deal with and that means you have to tax it means you have to take more shortcuts like police brutality and it means you have to do a whole number of things that are going to make. Even the below average people angry one of the other critics are criticisms. here has been that You know. I brought up the fact we have thirty state reps. And of course somebody then trots out. Oh yeah is one of them. Amanda bolden now for listeners. That don't have. That's the status of a free state project participant in early mover. Who moved here is a supposed anarchist. Then she became a true. It seems like very unfreedom friendly Democrat fact even come out and attacked verbally. The her former libertarian friends. And so my god. Somebody changed their mind. Must mean the whole is illegitimate. Right why wow right. So that's not actually how any of this works. The reality is people change their minds all the time they to defect from every side every other side as their thinking changes or they become attached to a different set of genital. Yeah that's a great point. We actually had a democrat. Become a libertarian if you recall to republicans switched the libertarian party and a democrat from keen switch representatives. Trans become libertarians. If you count me. I mean state representatives sitting stay representatives Couple three years ago four years ago actually changed from republican and democrat to libertarian. None of them got reelected as libertarian. Democrat oh yeah as libertarians. But that is an example of people changing from the other side and coming in joining the the libertarians. Some of those people were apparently holding on so it wasn't. It took time for that though if i had been them. I would've and i was actually in office. The truth be told. I would have kept cr after my name or i would have kept the d. after my name and instead tried to be a libertarian. Democrat or libertarian. Renisha no know nobody but at the same time we need to. We need the libertarian. Party is well. we need to cover all three fronts. It's interesting though too. Is that people in new hampshire. We got representation. But it's there's a lot of places where the same people get elected year after year after or election cycle after elections after the election cycle and new people. Never show their face like. And so you end up with a. I forget what you call that. But you end up with these people who are doing the have absolutely no care about anything other than being re elected. And and you don't have as much of that in new hampshire common. They go frequently. Were cast in new hampshire for donald for each side in. You can let up if you if you want. 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Org live video. Varkey new hampshire bay shows a screamed on d. Live following share a d- live ellen dot. Fm that's deal live dot dot fm. Free talk live you to bring up anything here. The number six zero three two eight three sixty one sixty. That's six three two eight three six one six zero here in the studio tonight. It's ian sorry. Nobody try that again. Nobody chris so six zero three two eight three sixty one sixty we are addressing some of the critiques about the free state project or the new hampshire liberty migration which has been i would say tremendous success and i think it's an important point to point out. It has just barely begun. The free state projects goal was to reach twenty thousand people who said they would migrate to the same place. Ended up choosing new hampshire and a popular vote or a condorcet method voter. Whatever anyway it was it was it won the vote and when twenty thousand people said that they would move they then started a five year time window now it took a long time to get to twenty thousand and unfortunately it should have been a lot faster and there's some other ways it could have been done. That would have been better. But we didn't live that reality and the thing that that illustrates is that we didn't know then what cryptocurrency taught us. Which is you can fork. If the movement isn't doing what you think it should be doing. That's okay. let them do. Think fork your own way. Find more people feel the way you feel and you don't have to agree on everything you know because of tell you what i've got some serious disagreements with some members of the free state prouder but i'm a lot closer to them even the ones i hate and even the ones who hate me then. I am here average joe on the street because the bottom line is they're gonna tolerate man. They're not going to send men with clubs to go. I mean if they want me messed up they'll show up and try and do it themselves. Most of them won't and most of them won't because that's not how they do. They don't initiate force so care that they're different so Against six zero three two eight three sixty one sixty so the the point was that the free state project which was the project that brought a lot of movers. Here a few thousand couple thousand that. They haven't even finished their time window yet for the move that ends actually in february. The five year window started february. Two thousand sixteen. It is now january of twenty twenty one so next month at the beginning of february. I believe it's february six. They will be celebrating the close of that five year window and we just this last year in two thousand twenty saw a record number of people moving for the free state project more so than any other year the more participants will grow too. So i think that's other thing people forget you know you know it's it's one of these things it's one of these things. Where breed success. Yeah yeah exactly when you have increased number of people moving in participating because they didn't even know about the project until recently a true you'll have more chatter and you will have more people talking with other people. Who do you know about the budget. Which means more people will grow and so it should more like exponentially than than linearly. Well the thing that is going to need to do though is. It's not bringing. One tribe to new hampshire is bringing many tribe to new hampshire which are loosely aligned. Okay but able and willing to tolerate each other and that's the important thing and so the the free state project needs to fork again and again absolutely and if you think they're doing it wrong and i think everybody who's watched them things they're doing it wrong and at least one respect and they're making like one mistake sure it's not they're doing they're doing it wrong. You need to go in and do it right because there's a group of people that want exactly what the free state project is doing. But there's a lot of other groups of people that don't exactly agree with them that would still benefit from being here and different sirens on the draw them. I want to say it's not. They're doing it wrong. Were doing it wrong. And we're solving that by forcing what anybody who There isn't right or wrong way to do it. I can't hear you to a large audience. King third john king. Here's part of the free state project. I think most of us did. Yeah ever to however when something doesn't work you four and when you forget you can succeed when you decentralize it take. It makes it harder to shutdown. It makes the movement even more resilient. And that's what we're doing and you wop rate whether you can you and the thing is if i mean even country even a state that was full of nothing but amanda bully boldon's would be infinitely preferable to the one we've got now. She's gotten kind of guide to even but compared to the status quo anywhere. She's still telling me a lot. She would have been a lot less of a problem. She helped her instincts. Were more or less libertarian. She didn't know she lost her intellectual way. She did help with certain drug decriminalization but after she challenged majorly completely reverse directions. She changed her mind on some important issues. But she's still basically an anti authoritarian. That's how i don't know. I don't know if i'd go. That hadn't heard some of the things she said. Post certainly doesn't sound even remote like watching us about your ex colleagues is not the same. It's now now as a complete reversal because the bottom line is how should vote. It's like when people break up. They say mean things about each other for awhile. The problem is it's not just about what she was saying about her ex friends. It was you know how she ended up voting in. What she was advocating for very authoritarian. Thought well at least on some of those things well anyway. The amanda bolden is just one example of somebody. Who's i wouldn't wear liberty and she's not. She's not the only person there have been. Chris cantwell he went towards a more hard right direction. We're talking about thousands both talk at the same time. We can't have that. I would not want to live in a state. That was full of nothing. But chris cantwell's amanda boldon's. I can probably tolerate well. But you haven't been around her. I can tell you this. I tried to reach out to amanda to get some comment from her about a story and when she found out that was me texting her. She completely ignored me. So she's she's trying to pander to these democrats she ended up marrying mattie. I have no idea why that would be but But my point she didn't wanna have a conversation. I mean i never did anything but you know. Treat her kindly and gave her plenty of airtime on this show to talk about her charities that she did so i mean not that that means she does anything but i mean. I never did anything that was. I would say Aggressive for tartar babies. You heard something after after. She changed and rub her the wrong way. But yeah well. I did report on. It may have nothing to do with any of that. people generalize and when they feel like they're being attacked sometimes they will aren't able to handle it and go in a different direction because they think well you know. Everybody hates me mad. Because i did report on the fact that she was involved in a case with a guy. Who's a state representative named tasker at the time. He was dre remember this. He was selling down cannabis to some of the state reps and some other folks and she got caught up in that and she tried to kind of throw him under the bus as as much as she could in that situation and it it was not w politics political. It was kind of the beginning of the end for her. And you know. I didn't keep her. I didn't keep her name out of the report. And so maybe she was mad about that. But regardless the point is that when you have a movement or migration of a large number of people who are libertarians to the same place not only is it going to be a disparate group of people that have different beliefs on different things even though their overall pro freedom friendly. It's also going to be the point where you're going to find some failures. If you have a thousand or two thousand people two thousand people in fact i would say that if you want to move twenty thousand people who stay completely aligned with you you'll move one hundred thousand other people in the process and do it filter through them because you know any any group of people that you move. Eighty percent of them won't be there in twenty years. Yep it's true yes and people come and some people think they bring energy and and and there a pleasure to be around when they're here frequently and if they leave after awhile that's okay. They graced us with their presence for a while. I think this is some of the things that people should be looking at. How many people on property And i think that oh yeah because you can see based off the number of people they just even in king how many people will property. We've seen an increasing number of people by going down. We have seen right. And i think it's something to look at it because you know people talk about people coming going all the time as if it's not like we're not increasing in numbers or something and it's like well. Yeah but it's If you get a hundred if you get a thousand people to move to any town for any reason most of them won't stay there. Yeah people will come. People go within the state people who move out of state. People having is replacing rooted themselves. Once they're going to be more open to moving again because they're not where they started out anymore and so they're not comparing it to where they've been so like i love these other liberty. Migrations are few going on in the country because once they've got people of rooted if it doesn't work out people will come here if it doesn't work and they'll certainly won't work out of them half except for the free state project none. Nothing works out. Perfect do it. 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It's ian nobody and chris and We started the show tonight talking briefly about a party got thrown Last night and you know. I don't wanna talk about the rub. It in or any or anything like that but it just to explain where we were people. We actually had a guy call in saying he was worried that we've been rated because the show wasn't set the only one. Actually there's i saw a bunch of people who thought that really. Yeah people at the party he thought or or like. Oh i thought you were about to be rated out smoking weed in the car. We thought we were being raised here. What meant was people thought. The studio was raided because we weren't with the studio why the caller earlier said he was worried that we were rated as free talk live had been rated because we weren't on video last night. Oh okay that makes sense now. Don't jump to those conclusions if we're not on if we're not on video side there's some sort of technical most likely it's me forgetting but in this case it was actually we were talking about during the episode that it was a prerecorded episode so that i mean that should have been pretty clear that we weren't here and we couldn't mentioned yesterday why we weren't here but now we can't and the reason why was because of this party that you know i thought was it was important to To have this event go on because there has not been a party since fork fest through. Four fest was a great party. I mean we had a good time and we're going to have a good one again coming up here in twenty twenty. This was a blast. Like i don't think ford fest you know It could beat this. I mean we. It was a better party then we had. I mean as far as just at once forecast long so it's it's different absolutely but as far as a one hour party was pretty app. I'm i'm still waiting for the poor or the for the fork fast that runs from spring to fall though. Because that's going to be a hell of a part wait on that one. All it takes is a small core people to form and it can keep going all summer. All some point they need is a cheap land to do it on. I kind of see what you're saying. I'm a village kind of see what you're saying and stay. Nobody but i kind of feel like forecast is what i have all year. Round being. keene new hampshire. I don't know like i went to to camp. And we've got fork fest all year round. There will always be a few people there hanging out and partying own a camp during the meantime. Yeah the thing that's true. That's why said spring default. It's forecast is like a little glimpse of what new hampshire is like it. That's how i've always like a little slicer anarchy. Yeah yeah having a little slice of anarchy is what we're here for right. Yeah and i feel like because those are the people. I'm around the same types of people. I feel like my best is year round but just by being here and i know it's not quite the same as camping but it's still you know instilled it always constantly surrounded by people in events and things going on in have a good time. The thing is what what i what i want to see happen eventually. Have basically a small community grow up in in new hampshire for sufficiently small values of growing up but and have it there permanently. So it's like the kind of the permanent resort for the people who have moved to new hampshire and people who haven't moved to new hampshire yet. Chris what to do. But oh it's like it's still you know it's one of these things where it's like you're looking to make it even better right. I'm looking to make it even better. And i'm looking to make it easier for people to move here and what a community like that would do would give people an opportunity to establish some kind of an interest enterprise. Well the good news is we already have across the state. They're what's called market days in fact there's going to be one coming up here in keene area on saturday there. There are people that come to a specific place won't say where but they come to a specific place and they have the trading that you're talking about people do offer their various different wears in such. There's one in manchester. There's one on the seacoast. I don't know about the north country of but there are some of them across the state and it happened monday night. If you get the you know if you get the population up to the point where i think it eventually will be because basically i think there's gonna be a lot of refugees in the near future. Yeah now. I think we're going to be filling up a lot and one of the big things were going to need is cheap real estate to keep these people on can't be cheaper than a campground there. The real estate starting to get more expensive at least houses are but Cameras may be available. That makes it a good investment to maybe not as good as Bitcoin but so i wanted to get back to the the story about what happened here. Last night there were dozens of people maybe upwards of seventy plus people that came to this party It was really a lot of women. Dozens of people there. Said maybe maybe seventy seventy one hundred and thirteen that were confirmed but of course a lot of people last you didn't show up and so we You know the whole the whole reason was there was so many things going on this year. You know dance parties that were a so called online dance parties where people you were told that they should stay in their living room. Dance party here gene gene. That's what that's what inspired the party. The fact that they're saying that like online dance parties took away from the number. Let we're not at all saying was. That's what inspired it in that. There's so many lame o online things that were going on and you know trying to sound like they were fun. And i'm sorry. The whole point of a party is to get to get there with people so you can network and talk and meet people that you've never met before and have fun and you know make connections in real life. You can't have that experience over zoom call and once in a while you may catch your social disease tasks choice. It's kind of funny. I you know i well. Maybe not everybody is on the radio. But i go to up where i go to a lot of conferences. And there's been a lot of conference connections yet online this year because they couldn't operate it couldn't set up in anywhere basically But what's interesting is. I didn't go to a single conference online. Virtually not it. Why bother i mean. It's not the same thing. It's not the same experience you can sit and watch a presentation. But that's not the reason you go to a conference frankly at the equivalent of a of a user's convention of next because i'm constantly on the web searching for information about it so i see those people online all the time i wanna see him in person real life. You kind of funny. Because i had multiple you know multiple times in the past month i felt like i was at a convention type of people who come here if nobody else says the stones. Maybe we can get thirty people to gather in lynn in. It's not in for the first time when people have had that discussion to be honest. I think derek j. in stephen. There's there's other people is. It could be a combination could also be a cryptocurrency would be the ideal start talking to the bitcoin people. Here's here's an idea because the problem with the conference these days is most venues. Won't let you have them unless you go got a big empty piece of land. I will not land you. Don't wanna outside during the you know when it's cold and most people won't want go to is a big bar and there's actually conference at a barn. The bruce from the ravens coin the guy who created raven coin. He actually held crypto currency conference on his own property inside his own barn last year. It wasn't this year it was last year and and it was great. It was a real small real intimate like less than one hundred people. Kinda party less fifty people But really intimate. But what i wanted to say was. I heard an interesting story from stephen from any pay yesterday. So as you may know stephen derek. They have the bitcoin not embassy but they have like a university like bitcoin. It's their headquarters headquarters. And it's located in downtown portsmouth new hampshire will. They got a new building now and it's multiple story of their new building is larger. It's a larger space now. I'm not sure how big it is. But the current st space they have is not bad so the larger one. They're saying maybe two or free a piece of two or three stories but anyway what happened was they were talking to the landlord of this. The owner of this property about renting it and landlord came back with a price on what he wanted for it. Now of course we know that commercial real estate is emptying out right so desperate yes. Stephen came back with an offer that twenty percent of what this guy had asked for hot. It dazzling i'm talking on it. So they're paying less than what they're currently paying for their old place and they're getting even more space twenty percents. I'm going to talk somebody in keene. More coming up here in moments. This is free. Talk live scratching and prepare. That already must be allergic to chicken. Noted that the third says things somebody said. no v. i t. dot com. He took two weeks and the dog stopped the hairstyle falling now the big martyrs maxwell's dying. How happy your dog we'll be. Pi dot com. 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That's what we actually have here in new hampshire and it's growing with the largest number of migrants moving here to new hampshire who care about freedom. Libertarians volunteers liberty loving anarchists Coming here as part of a new hampshire freedom migration that is decentralized there are different folks that are encouraging people to move here but all the people moving Have you know in one way or another freedom friendly viewpoint and the more people that we can get here the better so we have great new year's eve party last night which thankfully the police did not do anything about now. They definitely knew where we were for this party. Because we're right on what's called route one. Oh one here. In new hampshire is one of the main southern Routes across all of southeast actually goes from. I believed the sea coast all the way out to the the West end Of new hampshire the boundary to vermont. And so there were of course. Lots of really amazing lights. There was thousands of dollars worth of lighting and sound equipment at this party and it showed. It looked amazing but as you drove by. You couldn't miss it. I mean literally. The the light beams from the disco balls were being projected across the road onto the forest. That was on the other side but it was really an ideal location because there were there were no neighbors. So there's no houses or any kind of residential that we're right next door so there's no way we could have been upsetting anybody as far as you know noise or whatever from the party and that you know there's plenty of loud music and all that there's no way the cops could have driven by not notice what was going on for sure not noticed an entirely full parking lot of a fifty space parking lot that was mostly full and that parking lot has been completely empty for the entire year right. This business shutdown. Which was the kind of remember when shabbes shutout just after they opened a new building. Well it wasn't that it had been opened for a couple of years. prior prior to the property itself was purchased by the current owner and remodel completely basically. She tore this old shack down. That was on there. I remember the old building and then the new one and it's been a couple years. It wasn't long. I know that a couple years But it was a successful place. That's why she bought. It was a successful desperately breakfast and lunch place. But as we reported in she must have had a highly leveraged to do it so that she's she seems to pretty well off as far as her resources are concerned but she's now being more tapped out than she's ever been due to. These failed businesses. Yeah because what happened As we reported they shut down businesses. We can fix. What happened was the The summertime we reported on a story where yelp which is the online ratings. You know system. It's an app People can leave ratings for businesses. Yelp had come out with statistics showing that sixty percent of the businesses they had closed due to the government restrictions. Were never going to reopen that sixty percent of them were permanently closed of that sixty percent. They looked at the categories businesses. You know what sort of business was this. While the number one category of most closed permanently businesses was breakfast and lunch place. Yeah i bet. Oh yeah they count on the daily business correct and breakfast and lunch is not as far as restaurants go. Those aren't going to be the places that attract the most business or just overall yeah or prophets and so those were the ones that were going down. And that's what this place was where we were partying last night so as it was kind of ironic and appropriate that we threw this party inside the shell of this former formerly successful breakfast and lunch place that was killed by the government restrictions. Well what my church is looking to do is open up some kind of a fellowship hall somewhere in keene. You know place where people can chill out and get some of the services. They can't get anywhere else where they can go and get breakfast and maybe have a pretty waitress who who knows that she knows there. They know she's not going to buy their balls over masks. They can be comfortable. They can enjoy themselves. They can socialize and they can get some some of that spiritual food that we get from interacting with other humans. Yeah i think that's a a good idea. And so i wanted to talk about an alternative party that was going on in france according to our t. Dot com where there were over two thousand people. We thought we were doing. Good at like sixty or seventy. I mean people but of course defense sager our defense. The population of cheshire county is only eighty thousand people. Compared to a city of millions of people actually came from outside of cheshire county. We have folks coming friday away as host for their cities. That are bigger than all of new hampshire. I think it's i think it's a bit unfair to say it wasn't successful or not successful. You know it was dwarfed by what went on in france but that said unlike france the cops left us. Day didn't do anything to us and they were sitting right down the road we at the at the party. They were running a trap. They had a speed trap in in dublin. Actually so even pull any of us over for the speed trap bill. They didn't want they didn't wanna play well. Also we let people know that there was speed trapped there so good communications. I i dig it followed. Actually when i drove back from as soon as i entered keen they followed me. All the way. Home wasn't just you. I don't think yeah probably wasn't but It was they were. They were bored out of their mind. I think Well yeah there weren't any other parts. I mean how many parties were like what we did last night. We're going on all around the planet. It must be a limited number. Your probably been the least partied new year's eve years burn. I sense the eighteen ever extent thing then a normal nine king. Yeah that's how bad it was yup as a dinner nail. Didn't give you the good old time. Sure rosen everything. Rt dot and we have three d jays music that went on for five hours straight. We karaoke which is also prohibited. So it's illegal by governors orders to have karaoke indoors in new hampshire. They'd have a fit if we had strippers for a fundraiser. Oh this is a good ideas for next time. An attempt to disperse a massive illegal new year's party in france's northwest turned into clashes. Between the i don't know if i'm gonna pronounces right gene. Dr may france french. Nobody can pronounce. Holy the police. Okay and rowdy party goers who pelted officers with projectiles and set a police car on fire two constables. They must have gone totally unprepared for this. But you think about how many cops they probably wouldn't need and they have had it prepared advance because they so when they do those types of things they basically will like imprison like they have to set up cages and stuff and Just all sorts of things well in advance of these types of events in order to have enough places to actually put people after they arrested him. Yeah but the thing is you can. If they have guns it would be impossible to arrest them not difficult. It would have been difficult. Because you would've ended ended up slaughtering people. Well you up being slaughtered because there are a lot more of them than there are cops and people are more ready to give their lives than the cops are. That's not hard because the cops are basically cowards. That's why they attack and gangs when people are more ready to give their lives than the cops. Are we win so tell you more about what happened where you know what happened with these. Two thousand plus revelers in france holding what was called an underground party there as well overnight in the town of yawron in defiance of anti coronavirus restrictions banning mass gatherings. There's a ton of people there. And i don't see a single mass mask in the place kudos to them and it looks like it was pretty awesome party. Police failed to To stop it more coming up doodle stewart. Carol dan pork chop chop beautiful blonde coat is very thick. He's an akita. German shepherd lab husky mix. They did a test on the four rescues and the first year is to complete retraining. Lots of love. The supplant and daily upkeep. I'm a registered nurse and a personal trainer. If i eat healthy than my dog. Eat healthy an o. V. i t. e. dot com. And they need. The vitamins and minerals provide guidance is attrition parallels the border collie mix has the most beautiful jet black coach. Stuart my rat terrier has for now or he never had it before doodle. he's a poodle. 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There probably weren't that many of them. But i guess this is the best new year's eve party. I've been to new ever up. Sorry nobody microphone. Deny your shushing me talk too much. I'm a radio host. Do what were you going to say. Oh yes i was asking. If anybody else had any New year's eve stories. They wanted to share from this year but there was definitely a story in france. And we're gonna get into that but don't forget to check out fest party. We've mentioned it earlier tonight. forecast is happening in two thousand twenty. One that's this year now. June twenty eighth through july fourth grade mark account or better yet get in touch with rogers campground and book the campsite book your campsite your rv site or your motel room and planned to come up and hang out with us party. Because i'm sure there's going to be a party or two or three or ten At at four fest but how neither are. I don't know because it's decentralized which means that we don't get to decide these things each individual decides what to do what to bring to the table. What sort of things to create. What tents that they wanna put up there for people to hang out in and and do things in. It's a lot of fun so you don't want to miss it. I'm gonna make three predictions for this year. First off it's going to be the biggest one we've had okay. Second off is going to start early and late. Well everybody gets to decide when it starts and when it ends right because it's not centralized and is that people will stay later and come earlier could be could be. It was like two weeks this year. Maybe it'll go longer this time but we're only promoting one week because we know that we know that some people have jobs they have to and they can't come up not everybody's is unemployed right now a lot of them don't and that's one of the reasons i expected to be big because it's one of the few places where you can go. It's like a dead show. You can go there with very little money and make people sandwiches and make enough money you know for your trip. You know nobody that might be the stereotype around here. However it's not true. What's that free staters. Being unemployed a well no but but did in the land. The branch davidians. There's a lot of people. Unemployed people are dressed fronts. Used to employ somebody all of those jobs bergesen. Who was doing. If i had to take an educated guess. I bet there's there's fewer free staters that are unemployed right now than not than the general public population. I when you say. I had people who have moved for the free state project. We who've yet to move. I'm talking about blair. Franglais more likely to be unemployed. Because they're not here and people who are here tend to be more likely businesses and more independent and so on plus new hampshire actually is still in the top. Five states as far as unemployment is concerned. So we're actually doing alright. Not worth correct correct so Anyway go to fort fessed up. You can learn more about the event there. And we're s- we're promoting it as june twenty eighth through july fourth if you wanna come later or come earlier or stay later. Stay earlier than you know. That's that's cool too. Well i'll go one step further out on that limb and up i'll also promote the week before which is pork fast. Which is it is a good time. Maybe you wanna get your feet wet and men are key before you come and see. Anarchy that can be overpowering but so come up for both. Come up please there. We would love to have you here so what happened last night. The town of laurent in france. According to named down cut com. What does that mean by the year on river. What is what is your lure on me. Oh lure on spelled l. i. e. l. i. e. u. r. o. n. Leroy i heard you're on i was. That's an awful name. At least it's not a river. Well now we know what they did in it. So it attracted between two thousand. Two thousand five hundred revellers. Many of whom appear to have come from other places of france and from abroad the according to the prefecture of ilia elliott villian has said local cops were dispatched to the scene to break up the ray but the partygoers were clearly not ready to stop celebrating and fended off. The police officers were pelted with this literally. Fighting for the right to party the officers were pelted with various objects. Three of them sustaining light injuries. And at least one of their vehicles torched footage from the scene circulating online shows the car engulfed in flames with in the background. You know it's cold out there right now. What better way to warm up than burning police heritage the revelers have reportedly been very determined to continue partying and law enforcement agents ultimately opted to down off the area to prevent more people from joining. The ray became an autonomous zone by the choice of the voice. Yeah really have to wonder like how many cops today i mean. It sounds like a couple of cops showed up and tried to like do something. I you think they would have had more causing hundred ups but the thing is don't say the story but the thing is it doesn't take much of a of a crowd of eighty thousand to fight back to make a couple of hundred cops feel real unwelcome real fast. Yeah these guys didn't become cops because they've steel. They've got they'd if they'd had buzzes steal. They would have become lobbyists fishermen if they've only got a couple of hundred cops compared to a couple of thousand people. They had no chance. Oh they would. They torched a police van too. Yeah yeah it looks like man. Take many people to burn down a police station in milwaukee so according to the story here the party minnesota. This actually reminds me of something that the cops did here in. Keene new hampshire back in two thousand fourteen when there was what. We're called the pumpkin pumpkin fest riots. So every year there had been the pumpkin fest which is generally just like this family friendly festival where people have carved pumpkins. And you know they walk around main street but a few days bastards from keene new hampshire do love their pumpkin. Few streets over was the college neighborhood and during the daytime there were some what heard are termed as darcy's day parties going on that were broken up by them. Were broken up by the police and the Well frustrated then frustrated and drunken college students then poured into the streets and were angry at the they'd had their parties broken off. The i grew college town. I know you don't frustrate drunken college students. That's a bad plan. That's what they did in that resulted in the called again the pumpkin fest riots and during these riots they were going on for a series of our so i finally made it. I was able to get down there before. I had to go to To do the show. That night. I think and i observed a massive crowd of people on one of the college streets. They were fighting each other with bottles. They were throwing the battlefield. Yeah the bottle. War went on for like fifteen straight minutes. It was insane. They were throwing like full cans of beer and bottles at each other. It's incredibly dangerous. Do this and. I don't think that if it's consensual i mean it's also dangerous to jump out of really good. It wasn't consensual because they were littering everywhere. Their terrible allan the point i wanted to make about. It was the point. I wanted to make the police. Make the claim that there to protect and serve. Now we all know the truth is. They're protecting and serving the state in their master's in government. They're not serving you or you or protecting the property owners particularly race. They're taking what they did. Not in this case Actually makes news in office to their ending. The likes of him. They're defending a master's. Yeah they're not going to the property owners in this particular case which we're having their properties destroyed because at this but what they ensure they got paid for it. i do. Students have been student insurance. Maybe that's been losing their security deposit since you know before the federal without side though in the street right. Yeah you're not gonna lose your security deposit if it wasn't within two vehicles being damaged things like that is that there were just a ton of gar garbage being thrown everywhere bottles and cans and things like that. Just being littered in yards in various different destructive drum college students around. So the point i wanted to make was the cops were around. But they were another street over and they'd set up like a perimeter around this. Somebody went over there at a talk to the police about. 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I'm guessing that means. They went till the sun came up at the very least with over two thousand attendees. The cops tried to break in and destroy the fund that these people were having. These parties refused to allow it to happen. In ain't nobody got time for that. And they torched at least one of the police vehicles in also pelted officers with projectiles so they drove these cops back. These cops retreated and they set up a perimeter around the party. They were trying to stop more people. From arriving at that point they tried to and that. That's probably was successful right because you have to. You have to drive in you. Don't have a large groom. You're more susceptible to being targeted now. The thing is if they can keep it going long enough I predict that people from all over the country will start going there well. It was just a new year's eve party. No way that is gonna go on longer than you know an overnight through through the get a morning hours either the problem with having things that go on for a long period of time as you need things like you know bathrooms and other facilities in bed and i don't think that's likely in a situation. You'd never tire. It happened in Somewhere in the netherlands. I don't know where there is some place where they were basically they they were they were partying on some property that was abandoned and they kept partying there for so long they lived there and they wouldn't believe and the government pretty much had to have an uneasy truce with them for since the seventies there are just there in the middle of the winter. I'm kind of familiar with the kind of situation. You're talking the autonomous zone idea. It's one of the things that people will do. Is they will bring their own Facilities and usually. It's like camping facilities. And so they can. They can manage it. But you've got to sure but you still something you've got a plan for. I mean you need temporary facilities and as things grow you need to get more facilities in and so on now sadly The downside of the story is that the the people who are involved. there's an aid group. That was distributing masks at this party. Now to be fair. When i watched the video footage. I didn't see a single person wearing masks to wear masks. And they're still out partying. I say more power to him right but the point i'm trying to make here is the. I didn't see very many people wearing masks. So this particular age group was trying to give health advice. Antivirus gel inside the party. They said ravers needed to let loose. He said they were trying to stay safe by. Not sharing joints drinks their group. Techno plus advertised hawk was average was advising partygoers to self isolate for a week and then get tested after attending the rave during medical authorities. That they don't know that alcohols antiseptic. So they're trying to act like oh well we were being responsible with this raves. Like come on just embrace the fact that he wasn't just a few emily's or whatever showed up could say i have to say even at our party there was a there was a mass goer was there. I would rather have dr at the party than a matinee in a mask wearing a mask burstein. No bob were a mask was a it was a costume. I'm gonna get a guerilla war for a little bit. But he did. It was so it was kind of funny. I see So gorilla mask. France story in france here the group also said the disused hangar was airy and well ventilated so just just trying to make as many excuses as possible so look just embrace it you guys. Through a great party people came. They had fun. You shouldn't have to worry about it because honestly this so-called corona virus. This disease is not worth worrying about. Just do what you tell me. Especially within the age range is attracting these partygoers. I mean these were twenty some years older than that though doesn't have the same impact that it does on an elderly population. So even then if you're elderly you still need to be like obese and you know magnified or whatever and all i'm saying is that it's not like these. Are year old people throwing a party. I mean these are. These are people under fifty mostly at people under fifty have like basically no chance of dying. They've got a short time to remain under fifty and being over fifty. I can tell you the lot. Easier pushing pushing fifty than it is pulling it do your living while you can absolutely so kudos to this group. That actually fought off the police and push them back now. What does that mean. the cops are going to do while they say prosecutors. This is the guardian dot com is getting reports and a lotta places prosecutors. Were considering a ray of possible. Criminal charges the party took place despite francis. Pm to six am who though nation s thing. I mean i guess they could arrest anyone coming from the party right like you know. They surrounded the place. They didn't have enough cops to arrest twenty five hundred people not all in the same place but as they're coming out maybe they'll try to do something that they were at the party is is everybody's got to agree on when leave the party and then just blitzkrieg just go past him all directions faster than they know so they don't know whether to poop or go blind so Yeah i wouldn't worry about any criminal charges coming out of this as you said chris. They wouldn't be able to prove that the people were actually at the party unless they admitted it right. They're gonna do. Is they'll target in this standard police procedures. They'll your target a couple of people. They were the organizers target the stragglers also if candidate the numbers lower. I'm always cleared at the end of the four twenty rally when we we were down to a couple dozen people. I'd always say all right. Let's clear the square all once. Yeah all at the same time and let's all go in the same direction so none of us can be easily picked off Yeah that was there was one night at the nightcaps year where we had thirty six in a row parties right in the center downtown keene so like just so people know. The new year's eve party was not the first party of twenty twenty here in keene. We've been we literally had thirty six parties in a row right in the heart of downtown keene publicly located thirty six weeks in a row. When i was a drug dealer. I have to say that there. That was more consistent. I in college. I threw a party for like two years. Every almost wasn't every weekend but it was like during the school year almost every weekend. It felt like and i have to say that thirty six weeks in a row away and we were not hiding that one. That was hiding this one either last night. It was obsolete fireworks can't get the mad here. He is bright bright lights out noise if you find as well that was after that was at midnight when the fireworks went off prior to that we had had the party started at eight o'clock so we loud music and lights for hours. Before that we're on one of the main drags. So are you talking about the. You're talking about the thirty six caps because last week. Yeah yeah that was one thing that did attract to caps to all right because we were in my heart of downtown gain in that particular setting off fireworks three in the morning but yeah nightcaps worst nightcaps weren't as well attended as the new year's eve party but we you know we did have It's something word for what it was. Maybe next year we can start getting a hundred plus out tonight nightcap. But we're going to need. We're going to need to bring kegs and strip the problem. Okay so the problem. The college the problem with doing it every single weekend there. There's no nobody or actually take almost. Nobody has time to put into something like that doesn't even almost no right. So it's it's people people often criticized. Well you don't have a lot of people. Well yeah because we've done it three six thirty six weeks in a row. How many people do you think can afford to put in every single week for thirty six weeks. It's not going to happen but that doesn't mean you can't get a good group of people to come out to say a new year's eve party. Let's do the bonfire in new in central square. You mean yeah oh lower. Jesus it's a fire they were. I think on that one. That's the cool thing in france. Is the firemen have been fighting back against police. And they've got this crazy comback tactic like when when they taught me the knife fight. They said the first thing you should do is cut yourself. Because it convinces your opponent. You're crazy and so but these. 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This stream is supported by advertisers and contributions by follow us on facebook twitter and instagram's a somber star to the new year. I'm lisa lacerra fox news the. Us has now surpassed twenty million cases of covert nineteen according to johns hopkins university. Nearly twice as many as india. The number two country in california. The state is reporting a record number of death. Five hundred eighty five in just one day with over forty seven thousand daily cases. Jala -fornia has seen infections race out of control for weeks and remains the nation's epicenter of the current surge with people thirty to forty nine years old driving the spread of the virus los angeles county more than doubled. Its own record of one day deaths in just a week. Two hundred ninety new deaths were reported on new year's eve prompting the health department to launch a grim public awareness campaign about the rate of deaths. Tweeting every minutes. The description of someone who could die next. 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For another hour of america's sports talk. Show where we're gonna be talking baseball with the gator. They also called him louisiana lightning. I think you can figure it out. But one thing that surprised me about him was he was only five eleven one hundred sixty two pounds but boy that he smoked that ball into the play and he also had great control over his pitches he could always work the corners very well. I mean is. We'll tell you. I think you know it's ron gigiri. That's gonna spend the hour with us. Left handed pitcher who spent his entire fourteen year career in a yankees uniform. He won the cy young award and eighty eight five gold gloves and he was in four all star games. He also was the prestigious captain of the new york yankees and the yankees retired his number. Remember what is number was number forty nine and he became the ace of the pitching staff. Then he helped. 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This is america's sports talk show sports byline usa. Here's ron ron. Guidry joins me on sports. Byline i now cross off the name off of my interview bucket list. Of course everybody knows. Ron guidry left handed pitcher who spent his entire fourteen year career in a yankees uniform. He won the cy young award. Five gold gloves and was in four all star games and he was the captain the yankees and the yankees also retired his number forty nine. He became the ace of the pitching staff and helped the team regarded as one of the most famous and controversy on yankee's history win two world series championships and he has written about it. All a wonderful book called. Gator my life in pinstripes round. Let's go back to where it all started. Lafayette louisiana. Tell me a little bit about growing up. Well you know. I came from From not a poor family but you know just a mediocre family. My father worked on. The railroad didn't didn't make a lot of money so You know we had We had a lotta. We didn't have steak and potatoes every night. But it was fun. Growing up where i grew up in Lafayette that's all cajun country. It's french the people very close. Your family is a close And i still have all the friends that i had. When i was small as a grownup guy today. I still have the same. Kim friends that i had when i was young. A little bit about Getting involved with baseball. What those early years were like for you As far as the major leagues. Or just that way back when you were in high school and also at southwest louisiana well. I didn't play high school ball. So i don't have to speak about that interested in how we didn't have high school ball here in the in the parish of the county as as most people are no. I played every summer. Since i was young i went to My college here university of louisiana lafayette which was us l. By the when i was there played a couple of years. resigned from school to be able to pursue baseball career in the june draft of nineteen. Seventy one. I got drafted in the third round. I spent About four and a half years in the minor leagues. Before i got called up for the first time in nineteen seventy five With new york Finished up the year Started down in triple a. Went back up and You know the story itself is kind of up and down and then just. We're not thought that always ready to pursue my career I got derailed. A little bit. I went from being a closer to be a starter so i figured i didn't like starting i never really did i. I thought i was going to be a much better reliever overall but i decided i better start because this might be the only that i get the pitch. 'cause i wanna be able to play and perform. That's the biggest thing. So i did that and i always thought i did a pretty good job. When was the first time you ever went to new york. And i'll tell you story after that. The first time i ever went to new york The first time that i visited new york. I think it was in I think i was in the minor leagues and we just passed in front of the stadium then That's everybody's dream. You know to get there. And i just remembered passing in the bus and looking out the window of the bus and seeing that big stadium with you know with with yankees in the front. They had the big bat out in the front of the old stadium. That was by the parking lot so that was like a pass right in front of my dreams. That's what i remember the most. You know everybody's dream was to to get their pitch and perform at some level would would their favorite major league club mind being the yankees itself when i passed in front of that stadium It's like i could reach out and touch my dream. I didn't reach it yet. But i was very close and within the next couple of years. it came true. I mentioned that. Because in a conversation i had with the lake catfish hunter he and i were talking about the first time he had ever been in new york and of course he grew up on a farm in the carolinas. And he said ronnie said. I went into new york. And he said i went into the clubhouse later on i said he said to some of his players he said you know i saw these people going down into a hole and they never came up and he did not know what was the subway. Yeah that's a yeah into someway. Yeah well you know. I was there for maybe From from the new yankee stadium root referring to from nine hundred seventy six until maybe eighty three or eighty four. I never win in the city. It was just You know for me. It wasn't that was not me. I i didn't like the big cities I just. I went there to play ball and you know people say well. You know you're in new york okay. Fine it's just it's it's not my fault that the yankee team is in new york if it would have been pulled you out a win over there but it it. It never drew me you know the limelight and the all of that stuff it. It never drew close to their. I love performance for the people in new york. Had and i enjoy going to the city now But but it's different. You can walk around in the city. Nobody really Bothers you as far as like you know a player to they can't walk in the city without getting mobbed by fans. Now i can walk down the street. People way they holler monday. They'll wave but it's not the same it they remember you for the job that you did. And even if they're even if they're twenty thirty years old they're the you know they might have been youngsters when i was playing. But they know from their parents or their father even their grandmother. You know they're reminded of who were at the time so it's fun to go back now and the cat was right. You know i mean you down in those holes and you come out again. Come out somewhere else like a rabbit. You know your career with the yankees almost got sidetracked really early because you were nearly sent to the baltimore orioles. As part of a five for five read. Back in june fifteenth one thousand nine hundred seventy six and that was kind of upsetting moment for the yankees overall. Tell me a little bit about that. Well what was going on. Was you know for me and saying this story that you know i've told many times Of course my favorite manager was always going to be billy martin but yet at the same time at the beginning it was our relationship was was non existent. He didn't like rookies and our he that he didn't like him. He didn't trust rookies. So you know you're in a catch twenty two position. How will i ever get a chance to pitch. If i'm not trusted by my manager so it was a little. It was a little long in coming but the the ironic thing was my name was always thrown out in trades. My name was always at the top of the list. Everybody that new york talked to from from the moment. I got up there until Until i became an established pitcher with new york. My name was the first name that a team wanted. Well you know. New york would make trades. But i would not be involved in my name would be involved just like the baltimore thing. It was a i in five for five. My name was at the top of the list but what happened was since new york didn't trade me. We traded a couple of other guys. That are minor league system scott mcgregor and tippy martinez who two left left-handers in the trade to be able to make that trade now baltimore's i don't know Which one of them winning hop place whether it was typically or mac. I don't know who went in place but to make the deal we through those guys in there and in baltimore accepted but yet i was the one that they wanted primarily. And you know it's tippy and mcgregor going to baltimore and have fabulous careers. I stay in new york. And i have a good career so everything worked out pretty good. We have about a minute and a half before we have to break ron but when you think about pitching and i've asked other pitchers this. Do you remember the moment when you went from being thrower to being pitcher because there is a difference between the two yes. I think it's the time that i actually cohorts stay in a game. I don't know how you did that. The book you'd have to find out. Because i can't see it on the air but when you think about that there is a difference. Is it a. Maturity factor is a technique factor. What is it i think. It's more of a maturity factor and in plus you you you know the managers behind you one hundred percent because it you know if it comes at a point in the gain where the game is on the line and one pitch makes that difference After you get the respect of you manage a lot of times he let you face that problem. Ron guidry joins us here. He has a wonderful book out. It's called gator. My life in pinstripes. We're gonna make a selection of the month on the sports byline. Usa book corner. So i hope that you'll check it out and when we come back on the other side we're gonna be talking about a couple of years in which the yankees won championships. And he was very instrumental in helping him do so. That was in one thousand nine hundred seventy seven nine thousand nine hundred seventy eight and they were both winning. The world series against the los angeles dodgers very interesting series as well. And we'll also talk about a couple of the managers and other people on those teams very wonderful interesting career by ron guidry. And we'll talk more about it as we continue across the country and around the world on sports by hello and welcome back to the ronnie do each tax program on the line is paul from california. Hi paul what's your tax problem today. Hierarchy love your show. listen. I've got a big problem. See my paycheck was gorgeous last week. 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Called gator my life in pinstripes. Let me ask you about billy martin. For just a second he obviously Managed the as out. And that's when i got the really know him. I had run into a couple of other times. A lot of things were said about him and you even say what he thinks is what he said i mean he meant the things that he said but i remember an interview that i had with iran. I said you know something about his relationship with george steiner george steinbrenner and he said to me he said well i said what did he do wrong. He said well. He broke the twelve commandments. I'm not a religious guy to any great degree. But as i remember correctly there were only ten commandments and i asked him i said what were the other two and he said to me he said thou shall not argue with your manager and now show not cover the owner's wife right. Well i'm sure. Yeah these for. Billy had a great sense of humor to You know to his persona and You know he he. He managed the game To win and that's the one thing as players. I think you're respected about him It didn't make an it didn't make a difference who you were what you did If you were playing well and it was gonna be you that it was going to take to win the game. He would put your name in the lineup if you were struggling. And he knew you didn't have a chance hitting against the guy pitching that night. Then you sat the bitch. And that's the way that he learned to play the game in you know in with those teams with the mammals the fours and the bearers and all of those guys. He learned that way. Because that's the way that casey stingl managed to gain you played. The guys is going to take to win. And you know it filtered down and that's what we did Some of us might not agreed with it but you know the bottom line was the he we want. He was pretty hard to work for. You know he's pretty hard as a manager but he was fun as a manager. There was never a dull moment when he was managing game. You know when. I think about the yankees during that period of time you had steinbrenner. And of course that was an upsetting factor in itself. You had billy with his personality. I'm not sure how the the yankees at that time. One as convincingly as they did. I mean give me some insight were. They kept their balance with all those things going on. Well it's like. I've said i mean i've i've said this many many times. Yes they had problems you know with each other internally you know billy didn't get along with reggie vice versa. George didn't get along with any of them vice versa You know through all of that stuff. I it was there all the time and there were other things that were there often but at the same time. It's just a testimony to how good i think all those players on that team on on those two teams You know if you go back to seventy six. I know we got steamrolled by the cincinnati reds. They won four games in a row and and they blew us are fun but we will lack in a few things the very next year and seventy seven reggie joins that team We acquired different a couple of different. And then i. I get stuck in the rotation so our our whole outlook climate change. We became a lot stronger. And you know we were looking forward to actually meeting the the reds again in the world series but you know the dodgers beat him so we're gonna play the dodgers eventually but with all of that gone with all of that stuff always just said it's a testimony to how good i think everybody actually love that. We could go through all of that day in and day out and still win. You also said one time about the yankee culture. The players themselves changed over the years. But they're steadfast commitment to winning. Never did it's an organization that has been blessed with uncanny leadership now knowing the egos that were on that roster where did that leadership come from. How did it emerge well you. We always had somebody in there that we could look at as as a the calming force that guide. That says something that makes us all relax now. We always had guys who were different types of players. That team needs take. Mickey rivers maker rivers is not a team leader but mickey rivers is the guy that makes your club go his comical Funny whenever you get down that things that he does make you laugh and it makes you forget about the problems that you have. So he's a guy that you need on the flip side you have a guy like a munson. Munson is the unquestioned leader. you know. So when when he's gonna speak you're gonna listen you have you have guys like greg lou pinella you have catfish hunter you have guys on that club that you know when you look at them they have this aura about him. You know it's like It's glow when when you watch him play you watch him produce and it and it rubs off on you because they know that they can do it you know that they can do it but they know that you can do you just have to. You just have to accept that you can do it also and and if you do then eventually you get to be like those guys to later on you start. Walking in people started looking at you in the same light as you looked at them. Let's talk about those two seasons two championships in seventy seven. Seventy eight you move into the starting rotation you help lead the yankees to those two straight championships. And in those two years combined listen to this. Gigiri went four no in the postseason with three complete games. Five starts allowing nine earned runs and a high of thirty seven and a third innings pitched. Now the thing. I'm always interested in his complete games. And that's an attitude more than anything else because if you take a look at baseball today ron. It's the guy that goes six innings. Then the middle reliever then the set guy and then the closer. What is the difference in the attitude when you pitch them. What it today. Well i think you have to look at the way the how much the game has changed also because way back then and even if you went further than like say my era of their you the guys in the bullpen were not specialized players. You had guys in the bullpen. Who probably could not crack the starting lineup. They were the best guys that you had. After the best five you had. As starters put in the bullpen they became bullpen pitchers and then slowly. But surely you had this closer that started to evolve and in this. If i'm not mistaken maybe like in the sixties seventies. 'cause you started to see like rollie fingers sparky lyle You know there were more guys. I know right off the top of my head. I'm not gonna alfred hausky you know. Mike marshall Bruce suit you know. There's so many guys out there that started to do that. But that's all specialized players that you had. You didn't have anything that was known as the setup guy and you didn't have anything known as a short man or the longman you just had pitchers who can pitch when you need them but yet as the game has progressed in the last fifteen to twenty years you started to get more More players more specialized players. And you gotta remember too. Because i'm not sure people think about this often fifty years ago they might have had a hundred thousand players in this country who you could pick from the talent to play major league baseball today. They probably have one million so you you have more talent to pick from eventually in the pool and every year it keeps growing it keeps growing. So if you've got more talent to pick from there's gonna be more specialized players whether they're better no. That's not what i'm saying but you have more players to pick from than which you had fifty years ago. We've got about two minutes left before you have to break again. But i go to the nineteen seventy eight season because that one really jumped out to me. I saw a lot of you. Pitching during that. Seventy eight season of course championship season for the yankees. But the things. I remember about the game. California angels on june seventeenth. You struck out a yankee record eighteen. But if you look at your record it's amazing. Twenty five and three. You led the league with a one point. Seven four e. r. a. twenty-five winds nine shutouts and held batters to a one ninety three batting average. When you look back and think about what you did what the you appreciate most about those performances. Well i i remember correctly of a lot of those games came after yankee losses and for me to stop the losses And become what we turn the stopper that was important. Because you know if i lose a game we could go on to lose five or six more but you know what would having having as good as i had and it not just me. I had a great team to pitch for the guys make plays the guys score runs. You know all that constitutes your success or not and it was it. Was it worked pretty well together. That year doesn't work like that every year. But in seventy eight. It was pretty good. If i had a bad game and i gave up four runs. They scored five if if if the other pitcher only gave up one a beating one nothing. That's how that's how the year went. So you know for all of that. It was It it wasn't just me doing it. I had a lot of help doing it. Yeah you sure did Won the cy young award. You were second in the mvp voting and a fun fact about that year in all three of your losses in nineteen seventy eight. The win all mike. The funny thing is i beat to during the course of the year. They were not only mike but also they were all left handed. 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Tell me a little bit about putting a new pitch into your repertoire. Well you know i did. I did not learn that pitch myself. It was taught to me by sparky law In in nineteen seventy six. I spent a lot of time in the both in. Like i said billy wouldn't use me a lot so i got to throw a lot in the book to try to keep in shape and and and you know. Try to get ready to do the job. That i was supposed to but i i needed something else. Other than just a fastball. Through hard i threw a break involved but it wasn't a very great breaking ball and one day spark. He just said you know. I've been watching you throw and you actually remind me of myself because of your mechanics. We throw a lot of like you know a lot harder. But i think if i showed you how i think you could learn how to throw a slider somewhat similar to mine and we started working on it and within two three weeks i had perfected this pitch. That eventually goes on to set me on my career. But it wasn't me was him. Also twenty. fifth win of the regular season was the most significant as you were the winning pitcher in the yankees dramatic five four win over the red sox and that one game playoff at fenway park in boston to decide the american league east winner in that neigh game of course is known for bucky dent seventh inning. Three run home. Run off of mike torres Tell me a little bit about that game. And what were the turning points aside from just that home run. Well you know going over there You know that was that was the worst thing we had to go over there Because we had lost the coin. Toss so Going over there. I don't think any of us really felt like okay. You know this is. This is not good. We we had just beaten them for games in a ruined in september In in fenway park. So we knew that we could. We could go with him told it to. Just a question of you know for me. I need to keep this game as close as i can to give my team an opportunity to win. I don't you know i. I was pitching on less than i normally had. So you know. I'm not gonna make an excuse and say you know i didn't pitch great but i didn't have my proper s. I know that. And you know. I gave up a home month to yeahs early. But it's one run it's a solo home run and then i gave up another run and and you know you're thinking okay. I can't afford to to to give up anymore And when bucket came up in the seventh inning you know. I'm thinking in the dugout. Okay you know. I don't know who it's going to be but that was that was kind of like the scenario all season long. There was always someone on our team who who always was a hero. It was never the same. It wasn't like me all the time. It wasn't like reggie all the time. It wasn't like months and all the time but just every game it was someone else that would step up and do something spectacular. And when you look at you know bucky goes on and he hits the home run. That's the big deciding blow that turns the game. Bucky hadn't hit a home run in two three months. He only hit five or six all year but yet he's the hero of the game. Okay reggie goes on in the in the next inning and hits with with turns out to be the winning run but that that put us up five to two at the time you know and you know i know. I don't take anything away from reggie but you know reggie's home one was important because that was the winning run they show. Buck is all the time because that was the turning point of the game and so bucky to hit. It was great because like i said he hadn't done anything really spectacular than be a great fundamental player all year. And that's that was what our team was. All of our players would just fundamentally sound. I always said if they touched the ball as a defensive unit. You out the other thing. That i found interesting was the fact that you know. When you played baseball you can always see a lot of players with a big lump in their cheek and everybody knew what that was a charged tobacco. But i've always thought for guys that were on the mound happen bam bam that could affect you chewing tobacco and you swallowed your tobacco. I've tried to pick through that. Ron you gotta bring that up. But that's the last time. I chewed swallowed it on the monday night game of the week and all i can remember my mom telling me the story. She kept saying that howard cosell. Who was the commentator. On monday night baseball he kept saying that. I pulled a muscle in my leg. But that wasn't the case because when the trainer came out well first of all greg devils walked over to see if i was okay. And he said. Did you pull a muscle. I said i did. Not so i'll in my back. Oh he just turned around and walked off gene. Monahan the train and walk out he started rubbing one leg and i said that's not he rubbed the when i said that's not easy. He said well what is it. I said i'll swallowed tobacco. You said well. He said a couple of derogatory word that he took off. And he has billy morton walking on the way and he just told billy swallowed his back and villages turned around and left. Now i got the inning. And when i got back in the dugout billy asked me and said hey slinky said do you think you can finish this game and then i started to get did. I started to see four of everything and i told him sure. As soon as i figure out who i'm supposed to throw to. I might be able to. And he just laughed and he said. Take it on your done last time. I chewed him. That that was the i can understand that over a seven-year period. You amassed a one hundred thirteen fifty seven win loss record but the thing that jumped out at me and i never had heard this before. Was you played two games in center field. You didn't make a play but tell me how that came about. Well i thought you know. I used to always shag incentive field throughout the batting practice. I very seldom ever ran. Like you know when pitchers are supposed to run. I didn't do that. I just ran for almost like a solid hour. incentive field and. That's how getting my running. I noticed in a field and if a ball was hit in the outfield. I tried to get it. I didn't make any difference if i didn't catch it or not. I just tried to if the ball was hit down the left field line in the corner. I ran all the way from center field to try to catch. I jumped on. The fence are crashed into the fence. I dove. I did everything like an appeal. 'cause 'cause i was a good outfielder when i was young and i always said i was probably a better i'll in and i was a pitcher but nobody believes that but anyway billy knew that i could play center field. He watched me play centerfield and I got an opportunity. One day The first time was to In the season we we had walked. Was i last game of the year and he let me finish the the last inning of that game and then the next time of course was the pine tar game He put in tennessee to finish the the the resuming of pine tar game and he also put on matting playing second base. You were also noted for having such a very good pickoff move now. You were left hander. And that summit advantage. That's not correct. I had a. I had a. I had a bad move to first base. I had a real good move to second base. Because i was pretty quick and i picked more guys off a second base than i actually did first base because you know everybody has his bucket list well on mine was to pick off a guide base diving. Then it's never going to happen. Because i never did but i i picked off a lot of guys running from first base the second. But it's because i. I was good at guessing. The count that they would steal. Because they're guessing more breaking balls. And you know my. My breaking ball is thrown at ninety miles an hour. It's not like a it's not like it's sixty five and the catch has to wait for it. So because i threw fairly hard When i when i get into a position to throw like a slider breaking ball and my slider was much more. Effective down low Sometimes months nor any of the catches that had would have to block them. So guys would try to guess that. Count one into into As you know when you got to strike a slider basically coming. And then they're going to run. But i picked off a lot of guys but they were more running. But you know like ricky henderson. I pick ricky off ten times but he always run the ball. You know. Even though. I knew i picked him off. I never got him. Ron guidry is with us. We're talking about his book. Gator my life in pinstripes. Let me take you back to one thousand nine hundred seventy nine a very emotional year for you and also for the yankees and there is a special relationship between pitcher and catcher. There's no doubt about it. And you said about thurman munson thurman was our captain for a reason you could describe him and a lot of ways tough grizzled more than anything. He was honorary and of course he was killed in a plane crash. A plane he was piloting in one thousand nine hundred seventy nine and of course you you pick shortly after the funeral as well. How did you summon all that strength to be able to perform were. That's probably the worst game as far as when you walk. When i walked out there there was not very much going on in my head. that was You know i wasn't thinking about the game I was thinking about him. I was thinking about his family. I was thinking about my own family. You know i. I realized that the time that you know when people kept telling me that they were more important things than baseball. And i'd go like you gotta be kidding me. And it dawned on me that there were because when you lose someone like him or anyone you know as a family. Member is devastating. So i i remember just taking that long. Walk from centerfield. All the way to the yankee dugout and i can't remember if i heard anybody i i just i shut like everything off and i stood on the mound and when i turned around. I guess it's like somebody just punch in stomach. When i turned around the umpires had gotten a two abreast of on each side of the home plate. That would two guys on the left two guys on the right but there was no catcher because they made the little catcher. That was catching that night. I think his name was brad gold. I think they made brad stay in the dugout until after they had made a tribute and showed his picture on the screen and everything. And and that's when it dawned on me that i'd never seen him again and that was pretty hard to swallow. It was only have a couple of minutes left. And your number forty nine retired on ron gigiri. That was august. The twenty third two thousand three. The yankees also dedicated a plaque to hang in monument. Park at yankee stadium and i want to quote what the plaque said about you. A dominating pitcher and a respected leader and a true yankee. When you think back on your career what is the single thing that is kind of engraved in ron guidry. Mind i i could tell you. It's the first time that i'll walk through the The big double doors. When i walked into yankee steve in nineteen seventy six. I walk through the doors. That i walked to everyday for the next fourteen years i walked out and i went all the way through the concourse there and i walked up to the field and i saw that green grass and all those blue chairs and i remember the chills that are. I got that afternoon. When i saw that few and i thought that okay well. I'm now but dr ironic thing is every take that. I walked in that stadium. I got the same chills and it was like you remember that they that you pass by in the buffs and you could have reached out in such jig dream. Well that they did off saw that green grass. I had fulfilled my dream as a kid in about thirty seconds. Was it hard for you to leave baseball. No i was not and You know if. I thought i gave enough I got a lot. I thought i gave enough. But i just think it was time for me to come home. Run i want to thank you very much. Not only for what you did on the baseball field. Because i watched a good port. I watched your whole career actually. But what you've done off the field as well the gentleman that you have always been and i wanna thank you for spending time and helping me cross off a name off of my interview bucket. Lists take care of my friend. You're welcome anytime on sports. Thanks for having me on the air. Ron guidry with us again. Left handed pitcher who spent his entire fourteen year career in a yankees uniform. He won the nineteen eight. Cy young award also five gold gloves and was in four all star games and he was the captain of the new york yankees and the yankees retired as number number forty nine. 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And then you add onto that that they played it in high school maybe pop warner and then in college before they went on to professional football and gary plummer is a former. nfl linebacker. He played twelve seasons. Eight with san diego. Four with the forty niners. And he's kind of a rags to riches story. He was undrafted after playing his college ball. At the university of california and after going undrafted he finally joined pro football with the oakland invaders of the old usfl and he played in the usfl championship game. And then after the usfl folded in nineteen eighty five. He was signed by the san. Diego chargers a starter during his first season with the chargers and then started one hundred and six of one hundred nineteen games during the eight seasons. He played there and of course in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight. 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We didn't have much money but very happy. Had eight children in a combined family was great fremont i think twenty five thousand people at that time. And just just like your typical kid. They wanted to grow up and play professional football. For some reason colleges didn't want me out of high school went to a great high school mission. High school won the north coast section at that time as far as far as you could go undefeated team and for some reason even though was all state i didn't get a scholarship run because i was five eleven hundred eighty one pounds soaking wet with rocks in my pocket so i went to a junior college alone. Junior college did pretty well. There earned allstate again and started getting recruited thinking. This is the greatest thing ever. My parents have no money. But i'm going to get a free scholarship to go play football. And the one that i really zoomed in on with stanford their defensive coordinator was calling the week sending letters and then he finally came to a lonely college to give me my scholarship. So i'm sitting in my coaches office. mike cowen and in walks the defensive coordinator and he looks at me. He said you're gary plummer at this time. I'd grown though i was up to six foot tall now on and two hundred and five pounds but about four percent body fat. I was always a skinny little kid and he looks at me. He's like you can't play in the pac ten and literally turned around and walked out allow actually laughed in my face and said he couldn't play in the pac tin and so i quit. I literally just. I quit school. I i wandered around. I didn't know what the heck to do and this junior college coach of mine kept telling me. Gary you are not going to quit football and i said i'm done coach cowan. I'm i'll never play again and it was about three months later. He told me that. I needed to roll back in school and get into the wrestling program. Mike I've never wrestled my life. He said doesn't matter. let's go. I need a heavyweight. So i did and it just kind of got my juices flowing again. I started working out for the first time in my life. I took a class in nutrition. And suddenly i grew ron. You're not going to believe this is pre steroid days For for anyone. I guess unless you're a bodybuilder. I grew two inches and gain twenty eight pounds in nine months. Because i i started working at a grocery store and not one of my proudest moments but i started taking stuff off the shelf. I would eat nuts. i would. You know those roasted chickens. I take it in the back room and mow it down getting protein for the first time in my life this poor kid from fremont and i started lifting for the first time my life so at that point i said you know what would be the best thing i could possibly do. Walk on cow and go kick that dude's ass at stanford so i did and It was it was crazy. I walked on and they had about twenty eight linebackers including ron rivera. Who was now the head coach at carolina and a bunch of good players. And so i was there for three days and they said we need to move you to nose tackle ron. I was six to twenty eight. They're gonna move me. The nose tackle. I was too small to be a linebacker my whole life and now they're gonna move me so they did at that point it was. It was when i finally recognize that intensity could change your game. I was so angry. That i lined up across from this guy and i literally just exploded into him. I knocked him off the ground onto its back ran over the top of him and the coach that was pretending to be the quarterback. I ran over him to and everybody oud and all it. And i knew from that moment forward. I'm going to manufacture intensity on every play. I'm gonna play with anger. I'm going to be aggressive. Best thing that ever happened to me. Yeah it's interesting you said. As a child you wanted to play in the national football league but that was a different time. I'm sure those were dream like situations now. I think kids look upon it as a way to get out of a certain situation. Or it's the only way they can make money What was the motivation for you. When you were young. Why wanting to be a football player. So i started reading I was told that we had a about a twenty five percent. F american indian heritage in my family turns out after doing twenty three and me recently that i'm not but The first book report ever did. When i was a kid was on the great american indian jim thorpe and so that was the first one and then i just thought this is amazing. Book disguise inspirational. And so after that. I just have to reading books on anyone from jackie robinson to You know brooks robinson. It didn't matter. I just loved sports and almost always it seemed like the. I overcame adversity to get there. So that's why. I wanted to play sports gary when i look back on your life and you've already touched on. It is the fact that you've always been an underdog you know you got no. Scholarship offers for college football. You went undrafted in the national football league. And i believe if you reflect back. I think you probably are glad that your life went down that path that way so that you could be motivated in better-focused you said perfectly and i speak to juvenile detention facilities frequently. And this is the story that i tell them about overcoming adversity that. I believe we shouldn't be judged on what kind of car we drive. What kind of home we live in we should be judged on how we handle the diversity because all of us in our lives are going to face adversity the difference to me between somebody successful and somebody not is how you handle that adversity and that takes me to the next segment after playing for the chargers forever and each year getting a little bit bigger a little bit stronger a little bit faster. I got too old. I was thirty four years old. And i'm lifting in the weight room with junior ceo and the general manager came in and he starts negotiate my contract. And tell me okay. You had a really good year last year. But you're getting old at thirty four so we'll pay you the same amount next year and then reduce it and fifty percent the year. After that ron. I remember like it was yesterday. I had a hundred and thirty pound dumbbells doing incline bench presses. The guy was standing about ten feet away from me. I threw them right at the dude. And i missed him by about six inches. Probably fortunately for me. But i never went back to the charger facility again. You know the labeling that goes on in life but particularly in sports it's a forty time. It's how big you are. What your grades. Who the competition you went up against. I don't know why that is so important. I mean because many times it has been. I think jerry rice coming out. You know that. Little school in mississippi valley mississippi valley and yet look at the career that he had is that the mistake. They make in sports in particularly in football. There's no measurable for somebody's heart. And and i think that it is so it's why i tell that story to these kids when i go speak to them whether it's at a regular high school or juvenile detention facility because i think we're all told everybody in our has been told either you're not big enough. You're not tall enough. You're not smart enough. You're not good looking enough. it just depends It's up to you to prove that person you can either accept what this person has told you or or prove him wrong. It's a great motivator for people. And at that point i talked to lee steinberg and i said we need to find a place for me to go play football and i got a trial with the forty niners so i went up there when it was supposed to be this little thing. That was going to take about ten minutes. Forty five minutes later. There's ten coaches. There's twenty scouts and people from the front office and they said okay. You know you're done with the trad. Go up and see coach. Siefert in his office. And i walk into his office ron and he reaches out his hand and he says you might not be able to play in the pac ten but you can play for the san francisco forty niners same guy that told me whatever was thirteen. Fourteen years earlier that i wouldn't do it that's interesting. We only have one minute before you have to break. What is it about what the forty niners were doing at that time. That really made them different from anybody else. In the nfl. Eddie barlow in what way i could talk for the next two hours about eddie but you truly felt like you were family very quickly before we go to break remember after signing with the forty niners. There was a k. Flowers about half the size of your studio for my wife welcoming her to the organization nobody in the charter organization even knew her name when we were there for eight years. And then i would. I saw eddie a month after signing and he walked up shook. My hand said. Gary how are you. How's your wife and how the kids what fit alex. Spanos never knew my name in eight years. And i led the team in tackles about five of those eight years. So that's that was the biggest difference. Yeah he personalized everything. I know exactly what you mean. Very interesting insightful. Conversation with gary plummer former. Nfl linebacker twelve seasons in the leg. 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Here's rhonda gary plummer joins us here on sports byline former nfl linebacker for twelve seasons and again he played his college ball at the end at cow and while he was undrafted by the national football league he was signed on in the us nfl by the oakland invaders played in the us f. l. championship game. You were recently involved in a situation down. Where was it. Los angeles anaheim and it was talking about the situation with college sports Tell me what that was about. It was a panel for the ninth circuit. Judicial conference Each year they just have a number of different people that come in just for discussions for some of these guys That are obviously making decisions to hear differing opinions. So there were six of us three four and three against pain college athletes and then it was just on the safety of college sports Concussions more than anything else. And i was definitely the mentally opposed to paying college athletes. Because we touched on it before. I e that i went through. I didn't even talk about the financial adversity of having to work two jobs to save enough money to walk on at cal and then have to continue to work while i was playing football and trying to compete in the classroom to this day. One of the toughest things that i've ever done in my life But it was something that i could draw upon many times throughout my nfl career. Look this is nothing. This is just football. You don't have to work and you don't have to go to school at the same time so for me. It was a way that i was able to build character. Let's talk about the status of sports college sports. I'm talking about Putting aside whether we should pay athletes or not. We hear about what happened. with the women gymnastics Athletes we hear about these things. We hear about scandals at north carolina. I mean all of this. What needs to be done if anything can be done about. What's happening in college athletics. Oh my goodness i i. It's it's policing it. I would say clearly there. A huge pool of money So if we're not gonna pay the college athletes. I would say doing more behind the scenes in terms of security. And if you're not gonna pay college athletes Take care of them so that they can graduate. Get them tutoring more. Get them involved. Make minimum standards so they have to stay eligible As far as the things that have happened with women women's gymnastics. I it's i don't know There should be some laws that are written that. Ah doctor of physician team physician. Anything can't be with a specially somebody of the opposite sex can't be with these young women young vulnerable women alone It's pretty simple. I think if you take a look at the catholic church what has happened there as well. That's perfectly another example of this sort of thing and times have changed. I think all of a sudden What happened maybe thirty or forty years ago is coming to light right now and. I don't know that there's an answer. I don't think it should go unpunished. Let me put it that way. But i think that Polish sports they have to take a look at it and say what do we do to make it safer physically and emotionally for athletes. All students no matter whether they're an athlete or not. And i'm just wondering gary When you look back on your college career and think about what you had to go through what was the single most difficult moment for you. Well back then. Concussions were a badge of honor You got your bell wrong and much like we hear some guys fighting to get back into games. Now they're they're they're that's exactly what we did in college but now because it's been legislated in the pros that it's an independent doctor That's that's doing the assessments in that they have to be taken into locker room for those assessments. There is no choice for you to tell the doctor to pound salt and put your helmet on and just run back onto the field so there are ways to do it. There's ways to legislate anything that you want. And i believe that they can make the game safer in college the game safer professionally there are You know they've already done it by legislating the game in terms of rules They can also do it. Putting accelerometers in helmets those are wireless that they see on the sideline what kinda g forces. They're suffering. It's the way what's been throughout history when there's a problem we're going to find a solution earth a lot of smart people in this country though. Find a way to fix it you A went undrafted in the nfl. So you sign on with the. Usfl our did that did crush you in any particular way. Because that was the measure a professional football absolutely not i never planned on at some point ronn when when people were turning me down and tell me i was too small. I gave up on that dream of playing professional football. I just wanted to get an education. That's why i went to cal and so the usa failure and pay me twenty five thousand dollars. Yes i'll do it and for me. It was just trying out. I'll never forget i. There were twenty six linebackers. I was probably twenty seventh on the depth chart. That's how bad it was when they told me i made the team was. It was unbelievable. But what i remember most about that. Lebron is that guys that were there for the most part either. Weren't good enough to play in the nfl or they'd already been cut by an nfl team and the enthusiasm. The intensity was unbelievable. I i hear what the chargers i was. I was looking around like you guys have no idea. You should have played in the nf and the us fell. Those guys were intense. I mean there was a every once in a while in training camp in the nfl. Football play with breakout amongst the brawl. Because we had scrimmages every day there were four teams down there in arizona. I can't remember them all. But i know that the amazon wrangler and the denver gold. And somebody else. And we would scrimmage three days a week and a scrimmage is like a game you wanna talk. I mean those are concussion after concussion happening in practice so It was it was amazing to go to the nfl. Afterwards i thought i died and gone to heaven. What was the early days of the usfl. Like because i've heard from the guys that were in the afl in those early days especially the new york jets where they would get paid and they would go in their uniform practice uniform to the bank and stand in line because they weren't sure that their checks were actually going to be any good. I've heard just great wars and we were so fortunate with the oakland invaders. Toby was our owner and he never missed a payroll but we did fly when we had merged with the michigan panthers. And all those guys bobby. A better and carter The wide receiver a great team. We were. I think we were something like fifteen in one. We played eighteen games. Seasons in the usa fell. We were going down to play the sorry san antonio gunslingers and they hadn't been paid in six weeks so they decided forty five minutes before the game they were telling the coaches and the owners were not playing so guys from their team and from the invaders were sitting in the stands before the game forty five minutes before drinking beer and then suddenly like fifteen minutes before game time. They showed up with certify checks clinton merchant. I think was the owner of the team. And all of a sudden these guys were geeked they were jacked and we played the game ron. They were kicking our butts until a last minute. Fourth and eighteen yard catch by anthony carter for us to win the game. We were getting beat by the worst team in the league. Their story after story we we do a lot of charity. Events with steve young and he tells stories about Literally the bus drivers stopping in a parking lot halfway from where their practice facility was and where they stayed in some fleabag motel and said i'm not going a one inch further until i get paid. Steve young had to get out of the bus. Go to an atm. Get six hundred bucks and pay the driver in order to get back to the hotel. It was crazy and but it it built character. It was fun it was intense and it was built with a ton of guys that just loved playing the game. That might be the biggest. Shocker in the nfl. There are a lot of guys even to this day. The don't play for the love of the game and the usfl. I would say ninety. Five percent of the guys loved football. We got about ninety seconds left. But i hear the same thing about the afl. And i think that has been lost. Is that because of the money factor in professional football absolutely. I was recently up there in seattle. Helping kenny norton. Who's now they're defensive coordinator former teammate. he just wanted me to kind of observed things and i asked him what the biggest difference was. He said. you know we. You and i am leeward. All a bunch of guys would stay after practice. And we'd watch film together ethan. These guys the car is running and beat before practices even over and they are sprint. They don't even take a shower they just sprint to their car and get out of there so the camaraderie isn't there and he said that's the biggest difference in today's game and it's because of the money as it hurt the quality of football. Well i i think that as he said there are better athletes today but they don't know the game as well because the dedication and commitment of jerry rice of ken norton of junior ceo. Just isn't there. And i think it's kind of i don't even know who. What were you use to describe this if you think about professional football day. It wasn't like the practices of the old days where you guys were out there on the field for a long time. It's boop boop boop boop absolutely everything is shortened up and it's for the safety of these players and that's all regulated by the nfl players association now. There used to be two practices there in training camp right now. Too padded practices day. Now they can't ever have more than one each day and i. It's never more than two days in a row. We're come back on the other side when we do with gary plummer linebacker in the nfl. For twelve seasons. Eighth with san diego. Four with the niners will talk about his. Nfl career with not only san his friendship with junior ceo and his championship. with the niners. We continue with more of you and sports byline the number one gift in this stressful year. Relax asian from home medics now at up to thirty percent off soothing stress for over thirty five years. 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Appraisals download the wax insurance app and use promo code ensure today. This is america's sports talk show sports byline usa. Here's ron gary plummer with us here on sports byline again fine. Linebacker won a championship with a forty niners When he was playing with them after he played with the san diego chargers. Tell me how you ended up with the san diego chargers. Well ron lynn Who was the defensive coordinator with With cow he then went to the oakland invaders and then when the when donald trump came along and he took over the new jersey generals and wanted to go head to head with the nfl. Obviously that didn't end up doing and didn't end up working out. Ron signed with the san diego chargers. That was a crazy time. Ron because i can remember i wasn't out of my contract yet They wouldn't let us out of our contracts until whatever the date was and the date was exactly nine days before the. Nfl season started. So i was sitting at practice for three weeks waiting for them to make that decision. And i still talk to billy ray smith to this day and other guys that saw this person and somebody finally figured out who i was and they're like oh that's wrong lens boy from the oakland invaders and they hated my guts. Because you're i am. They know. I'm going to make the team and i haven't practiced they're out there working out twice a day and here's this three toed sloth to sit in the stands watching. So that's how. I ended up there with ron lynn. And he he told me. Gary you're not starting the first two games because that's gonna make this real bad situation for you so i ended up starting now after that third game of the season and went on to lead the team in tackles. I think most people know you had a very very close relationship with juniors say al the hall of fame linebacker and i know his death upset. You a great deal but when you think back have you been able to put it in its proper perspective first of all. I'm i'm grateful to junior for so many things but first and foremost clearly. He was hurting anyone. That judge judges somebody that commits suicide. You have to walk in their shoes and he was obviously hurting. I'm so grateful that he didn't take anyone with him Because he was he was clearly hurting at that time I guess i'm i'm most grateful to what he did in terms of the nfl. And getting this concussion settlement we saw. How many guys from the pittsburgh steelers were having problems and committed suicide. And dave duerksen. It didn't change anything. It had to happen with a fame player caliber light junior. Say out to get the nfl to finally do something about it. And then personally. I am so grateful for it because my wife corey Came home from work. That day and i was still sitting on the recumbent bike after about three hours of watching the coverage on the local news. Crying i've been crying for three straight hours and you know. She was really worried about me because i hadn't slept basically for about ten or twelve years at a headache. That felt like somebody. Who's driving a steel rod through my head for about twelve to fifteen years. She said it's time you need to go. See a counselor and i did. And it changed my life I was diagnosed with the early stages of dementia about three and a half years ago. And i literally how. How timely just got my diagnosis back from the nfl. On those baptists and it says shows no sign of cognitive decline. So what was the diagnosis of the early stages of dementia. I feel like. I'm probably fifty to seventy five percent better three years later. And that's because of junior and And i'll i'll be grateful forever because of that. What was the essence of his success. Enthusiasm infectious enthusiasm. And ron. i'm telling you. I'm also grateful to junior. Because his first year was my ninth year. And you know it's a difficult game you know to the average careers three and a half years for a reason and isn't just because of injuries. It's because it's just it's so taxed and taxiing and and mentally. You just can't do it. He came in. And i'm telling you. That guy was like the tasmanian devil. He practiced as hard as he played. and before. That you guys kind of It was called the brother-in-law technique read is kinda like didn't practice hard against him. Because you wanna make him look bad. Of course that means you're not practicing that hard yourself junior came in and you better play at one hundred percent on every down or you're gonna get your block knocked off. And he talked more trash. Ron and it was so fun we would be in practice. And he's talking smack to the coaches to the player across from him and that was infectious. And what i noticed when he did that i started doing it and it became fun and instead of dreading going to practice i was excited about and not only that. I would work out with junior sale before practice in the weight room. And i'm like dude. What do you mean workout before practice. He said yeah. Because it makes you. It's more like game day than because you're already fatigued and then you go out there and practice now on game day you're not lifting weights before game day. You're better prepared. And you know what he was right. It was amazing. So i believe junior sale helped extend my career. From ten years to fifteen you eventually became a free agent. Signed on with the san francisco. Forty niners in nineteen ninety five and that was a year in which they they added some significant free agent signings dion sanders. Guys like that and everything when you took a look at that team's strictly from professional looking at professional and talent wise. What did you see. It was amazing. So i was the first one that signed the next guy after me and i was so grateful. It's probably why kenny. And i got so close. Was kenny norton. Because they kept talking about. You know we've got this great offense number one in the nfl and you're going to change things on defense force. That was a lot of pressure. And when kenny came on that was a bond for us. And then you see dionne get signed and the thing that impressed me the most about dion is everybody talks. About what an amazing talent he is and was but that guy worked so hard he was the first guy ever saw with a portable video camera. Each just carried around with him any watched plays. He was a student of the game. He knew the game as well as any. Db i'd ever played with up to that point so the talent level was just amazing on defense mazing on offense and it was the expectation was if you don't come back with a super bowl trophy than you're a failure. The expectations aren't like that in san diego. Expectations aren't like that with other teams. And that was one of the biggest differences. You know when you take a look at that team as the other super bowl championship winning teams but the san francisco forty niners. It was a collection of talent outstanding talent. A collection of egos collection of personalities and molding that many dispirit personalities in eagles into a successful championship team is not easy. How was it done. george seaford. I've said it before and it sounded like i think at the time some people took it as a back and in compliment to george seaford meant it only the most Adoring way george siefert. Didn't screw it up because so many people would have. They would have tried to to harness. All those egos and all those personality he just let it go and we did things different when we got there. And i'm gonna tell you a story. That's hilarious. i guess. For years the offense ran the show with the forty niners and we got there. And let's just say it was ricky watters. Who comes across the middle. And kenny thumps him and then it's jj stokes thou with later time One of the receivers comes across the middle. And i thump him. Then ricky watters does it again and he picks the ball up and throws it at kenny norton and we have a full on brawl. George siefert stopped practice. He gathered everybody in. He said all of you guys on offense told me now for two years and you came into my office all off season and said you know what george you need to go. Get some tough guys on defense because we're getting intimidated by the dallas cowboys. So i did exactly what you ask. I went and got a couple of tough guys on defense. Now here's what you gotta do. Shut the hell up and go play football and you should've heard the raucous laughter. I mean you wanna talk about talking smack after that. Dion kenny myself. We were just in the faces of those guys and it made them better. Because that's how the cowboys played. And we played that way on defense in san diego so it was. It was great for that team. You know it was always. I guess this was the knock on the forty niners is. They had sophisticated offense and that they weren't rock-hard they weren't street tough and that sort of thing but the thing i admire by george siefert and you probably will confirm this but when he was the defensive coordinator for bill walsh. There was an insurrection on the forty nine defensive squad because he had so many reads everything instead of just being a natural athletic reaction to what the play was and ronnie lotte. Those guys went to him. And i mean i know about the meeting on that and it got real ugly. But the georges credit he simplified down and of course they had those championship teams. Three with bill of course and then when he took over the forty niners he didn't try to put the george siefert label on that team. He just kept the machine well oiled and that's a beautiful beautiful example of who george was as a coach because he was able to adapt. And you're exactly right. A lot of people tried to change things. Oh we're not gonna do it bill. Bill's way anymore. He kept much of what bill did. And that's why he continued to have success and they were completely different personalities and yeah keep it simple stupid kiss. We heard that many times and george was great about it. you know. It's kind of interesting. About steve young because he always had a monkey on his back i mean he was in the shadow of course if joe montana for such a long time and i think the biggest problem with him in that before he won a super bowl and got off. His shoulders was the fact that he thought too much about it. He didn't really just let things happen until you know when he did. Great success that he had but He was an interesting guy because he came from utah. He's mormon and everything. What was it that stood about out about him when you were playing with him so it was that first year. And i think we just lost to philadelphia. We got crushed and George siefert pulled them out. And steve. Young mormon steve young custom out on the sideline and ripped him to shreds and everybody was like who is this and it was at that point because you know guys did look at. Steve is just you know okay. It's milk to- steve. It's it's this guy that just kind of goes he didn't have an edge to it. Didn't have an edge. And i think guys respect that they respect the edge. They respect a rebel and a and. It's just not steve's personality but once he did that and went after george and that's a compliment to george again for allowing it. George stood there and steve. If we if you've ever seen the video of it is standing like five yards behind him and he's just chirpin and he just keeps chirping and his ears you know yes and and the user dropping bombs and all kinds of stuff you know. I you know. I'm going back in whatever. And george could've turned around and sent him off the field or find him. He didn't and that really became a watershed moment for steve taking on a leadership role. And that offense. I mean you expect it out of a quarterback but that's when everybody started listening to steve young. We have a little less than two minutes. I always loved to ask this question. And i'll be interested in your answer to it when you think back on your life and your career. Is there any one moment. That's really ingrained in gary plumbers. Mind that will never forget definitely have it would be two things but from the same game and it was from the super bowl. I was sitting next to rickey jackson in the locker room. And i run. I hadn't had nerves before a game and probably five years at that point in my career. Thirteenth year of my career. Because you just prepare yourself so well. But i had butterfly not butterflies stomach and all the sudden a guy came up behind me and he put his hand on my shoulder and one on rickey jackson shoulder and he looked down any he leaned in and said. Don't worry tonight. I'm getting you guys your first super bowl ring jerry rice and i got on the cell phone that was probably the size of a brick at that point and i called my wife and i said have the boys at the fifty yard line with two minutes to go in the game. We're kicking their ass and so my wife had my two boys who were twelve and ten. At the time on the sideline. i went and picked him up. Took them out onto the field before the game was even over. A matter of fact i missed the two point play because of that because we had our substitutes in at that point and i have pictures with the boys sitting on the sideline and the super bowl standing next to players and and that is really the the highlight of my football career. We only have a couple of seconds left. But what i'm happiest about is getting together with you. Seeing that you are healthy. I mean i look at you. And hearing you articulate your life in your thoughts and everything that makes me the happiest because you once revealed that you suffered over twenty five hundred concussions in the course of your career even when most of them were mild grade. One type and i worry about that. Thank you for coming in and spending some thank you so much for having. I've admired you ever since those days at cal okay. Thank you and corey to bringing your wife in. We continue of course very interesting man very successful athlete and super bowl championship athlete. When he played with the san francisco forty niners and that was a great team. That was the fifth of their five super bowl championships. Former linebacker gary plummer with us and again he played eight years with san diego for years with the niners. Continue across the country and around the world with you on sports byline. 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And i'm gonna ask him about this in the interview that he came on the field riding a white horse and of course he played with the raiders when john madden was the coach john was only something like thirty two years old. And you can imagine. How veteran football players like ten hendricks and others on that raiders team How they would handle a young coach like that but nfl and college football hall of fame linebacker. He played fifteen seasons starting out with the baltimore colts than the green bay packers and he played both in oakland and los angeles for the raiders. He played in two hundred fifteen regular season games. Eight pro bowl seven. Afc championships and he won. Four super bowls. The first one was with the baltimore colts. I remember that. I covered that one down in miami when they beat the dallas cowboys and then three with the raiders super bowls eleven fifteen and eighteen and he really did distinguish himself as being the first guatemalan to play in the nfl. 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Eight pro bowl seven. Afc championship won. Four super bowls one with the baltimore colts. Three with the raiders and ted is distinguished as being the first guatemalan to play in the nfl. Ted you've always been unique. But i did not know you were born in guatemala and the first guatemalan to play in the nfl. You gotta tell me that's correct My dad my mom down there and They got married down there half. My family lives in guatemala and He got based in miami and I'm on didn't have anybody in that in miami to take care of me so like before i was born she they see me down to guatemala and i was born down there and they soon that the miami and then vacation that we had always down a quarter malla where my grandfather and my cousins and aunts and uncles or you're raised in miami springs. Played your high school ball at hialeah. Hi you didn't go too far from home for your college. Football at the university of miami was that because it was a short drive or did you wanna go somewhere else. They offered me four scholarships one football and also Put me in the honors honors physics program and one for basketball baseball and then academics so it was really easy to choose. You weren't just a pretty face then. You had many talents cook correct. What was it about football. Why did you gravitate in that direction. Then say the other sports. Well graphically i tried to play But we went to bowl games so the basketball season was already half over with By the time. I got out and Football and then for the baseball season. I had to go to spring practice. I can then. They said i could go go baseball practice. That didn't work out very well. You played for charlie tate. Down there at the university of miami were a two time american And it was there at miami that you got that nickname it was shortened. Of course when you got the nfl to the store but it was the mad store. Now tell me how that came about. Our middle guard on defense was the mad dog and he nicknamed everybody on the defensive unit with mad in front of name on one of our defensive backs his last name was guy he was the mad fly around people and i got. I got the mad. Stork that skinny legs. And he was mad dog and then on one player have oversized so he was mad head. You were a second round. Pick of the baltimore colts in the nineteen sixty nine. Afl nfl draft. You played for don shula and he converted you to a linebacker. Because you've been a defensive end in college. Tell me about being stand up these sensors in that. I played over the tight end all the time. And that was an aside for defense so Technically i was the outside linebacker position except i didn't have any password sponsor ability. I was played iran and russia. Passer me about your how. You don shula. What What was your first impression. First of all what. I don't know why the baltimore colts drafted because they just lost the super bowl. The jets poses and all positions. And i said. I don't know how to make this team and coach sure was really A fantastic coach and he really need the game very well and Not only that. But since i was the only youngster lineup the us to pick on me. Because he could pick up pick on the older guy you were always very very tall. And i'm just wondering how was that an advantage to you playing pro ball well like black and blocking Passes and blocking chicks on the Punt block team so an extra point field goal but teams so it was really helpful helpful. Be tom not only that. Knock passes down and and Have a lot of rains to reach out and grab grab people that got the had. The ball yeah. I know you had twenty five blocked kicks in your career when i read that stat. Ted i just kind of shook my head because i don't think i've seen anybody who had more than that. Did you have a style. Did you do something That that gave you the leverage and the ability to block that many kicks. Usually i got two guys from my team. Really good The gave a big pushing the line. So and then i just pushed through picked out where the directory and the ball was going to go and go and we actually triple came the guy that we were going over. And there's no way to stop us. Said played a key role in the colts. Nine thousand nine hundred seventy super bowl five winning season when they beat the dallas cowboys. Sixteen thirteen and they did that on. O'brien field goal with five seconds left. It was not a particularly artistic. Game was dead. No it was against the dallas cowboys. Right right and What they had was too tight end system coming in and what what they did with me for. That particular game was wherever the tight end. When i was lined up over the top of them and one of the tight ends mike ditka. And that's how landry got the plays coming into into the huddle that he called tend to tight ends and we with the play calling for the next play. You had a great linebacking core. It was you and it was my curtis. Ray may tell me about that group greg. Yeah that was really unique group Mike was outside linebacker that they moved him to the middle and What a i player. He was He was just Tour spiel and gets out there And ray may of course was he had a lot of talent also quite a quite a crew to work with. Tell me about your quarterback johnny anonymous and earl moral well johnny night. It's got hurt in that game and the earl came in and so then forum so Both of those quarterbacks in the world went went down to miami had a great career down there to at united used to practice. He looked one way to kill the other way. And i said john you're messing with me. Thank you know there was something about him. And of course one of the all-time great quarterbacks as you look at him football player to football player what did you see in him. That made him so unique during the course of his career It's command of of the ball of gain and not only that but I'm uncanny talent then The other thing was so unique about him. Was that if there was a sweep going on i he would go out and block for the running back or or the In what was coming around for the reverse. And i thought that was quite a compliment to his career. After five seasons with the colts you were traded to the green bay packers. What was your reaction to that. Well here i am playing for the two oldest teams and sessional bone old. Nfl and i thought it was a real treat to go to green bay since the baltimore colts with legendary and so were green bay packers and It was just disappointing. The you had because we had a real good defense there except If we won one over the last three games And that year would have been in the playoffs and We were playing in philadelphia. And by the time i defense got on the field at the school was only sixteen nothing. What was your thoughts about playing. Dan devine well dan. I thought Was really handicapped because The offensive coordinators. Were still old packer. Fans and events the birdie people and they were kind of like undermining and That didn't sit well with me with the packers but That was banned aligns last year. The year i was there and Star took over the green bay packers. We're talking football with ted hendricks. Nfl and college football hall of famer. He won four super bowl championships. One of those with the baltimore colts and then three with the oakland and los angeles raiders will talk about his time with the packers and also with the raiders as we continue across the country and around the world. We've got you on sports byline. Hello and welcome back to the ronnie do each tax program on the line is paul from california. Hi paul what's your tax problem today. Hi ronnie love your show listen. I've got a big problem. 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Usa the hall of famer not only in the nfl but also in college football as well. he played fifteen seasons. He won four championships and He won three of those with the oakland. Los angeles raiders and one with the baltimore. Colts After you traded to the packers you were assigned jersey number fifty six and signed a future contract. Tell me a little bit about that circumstance. Well i tried to get eighty. Three from by defensive end i even offered to buy it off of them So stuck with fifty six that year and I was playing on my option at that time. And i knew. I could get a no cut contract because i'd signed with the world football league and that's that's my baltimore traded me to green bay and football league folded so i offered my services They had a five year contract with an option clause hours. Maybe they six six year contract at the same amount of money you know increments and Year and I i told him to reduce it down to three or whatever and they said no it. So i said i am sorry but i can't sign that thing. So that's right. That's how i ended up with oakland three year. No cut contract. Yeah i know that. Al davis Sent to first round draft choices to the packers for the right to you and he signed you then as a limited free agent. The first time you ever met our. What was your impression there. Well I knew i knew mr davis before Because we played against him. Times and He he was the consummate owner because he a lot of a lot of game by himself. He's used to be a coach and then ended up I as an owner and then It was like the council owner really knew everything about the game of football. And what what it was long with john. Madden of course. The youngest coach in the national football league at that time pro football at thirty two years. Old and i know the players will challenge coaches. What was your impression of him. The first time you met him. He was a dynamic coach. I guarantee you that you expressions go out on the field and its emotions to He was real great motivator for getting ready for the games and everything else and sure. Let you know when you make a mistake was a great great coach. You know as well as i do. Ted that the raiders. Back at that time had a I guess you might say a freewheeling attitude and everything and i know you trained up in santa. Rosa was up there a number of times. There was a lot of hijinks you know. Did anybody ever keep curfew. They certainly did but six weeks long time especially on days it chorale. I guarantee you that you guys were out at the watering holes and everything and you used to do a lot of a lot of things. Do i remember correctly. Did anybody ever Tape john madden to a goalpost. One time i've heard that rumor. But i don't know if it's long before i got there. I think it's been davidson but that's it. Yeah you know it was out davis's some mark. I'll be darned. I did not. I did not know that but there was a thing in the early part of your relationship. With the with the raiders did. Did al john not to play you or delimit you and your play and then eventually mad and eventually had you starting by the end of the nineteen seventy five season. No i've got hurt. I'm pulled muscle. And of course the next year. You became a full-time player with the raiders. And the raiders which to that four defense early in the season and you play the weakside linebacker and they had another pretty good linebacker. There and phil villapiano me. A little about linebacking core. Not only that. But phil was great linebacker and so's like martin the other linebacker back. I played such string Yeah feel all pro for a few years and and Definitely strong linebacker and i don't know what happened with the trade that they made To get him out to buffalo and then uh right. Martin came in and took his place. Let's talk about the the three super bowls that you won With the raiders. The first one was super bowl number. Eleven and it was the first and the franchise history thirty two fourteen over the vikings. What were the important parts of that game. Actually we had put a lot of pressure on fran torkington and really down intercepted a pass and ran it. Back for a touchdown and We really just dominated government They couldn't get the run game going and Gangs over with the third period in one thousand eighty. You were consensus first team. All pro for the first time since nineteen seventy four and you certainly did. Help the raiders to win their second super bowl that was super bowl. Fifteen and that was twenty seven to ten against the eagles. And the uae. Reason why i remember. It was down in new orleans. That game and i remember watching dick. Vermeil worked his team to death super bowl week. And when you were out there on the field you guys can read a team. You can read a player pretty well. What was your read on the eagles in that game. Well not only rod. Martin had three intersections in that game. I thought he would make Player player of the game and They gave it to plunkett. Were firms quarterbacking But yeah. I wonder where one of our teammates was out for on curfew during that week and they said that they would sent him home and are enjoying up. Shore are often cigar. Said if they did that on our team coach. Be the only one stephen out there. I know i was out on bourbon street with. I'll just share a little story with you. I was out after curfew with one of the players and We're coming into the team hotel and a tom flurries is coming down the stairway. And you know it's one o'clock one thirty in the morning and he says Why are you out after curfew. And miss players turned and he said ron couldn't sleep and we had to go out and find him some warm milk but it really was What was interesting about that season as tom. Floor is almost got fired because in the middle of the season you guys had back to back losses. did you. Not and. I don't know whether they were shut outs. But there were back to back. Losses and al was thinking seriously about making coaching chain right. I didn't know anything about that. Yeah right and then of course In your final campaign in hundred eighty three you major eighth pro bowl you block your twenty fifth kick of your career and you re part of the raiders. Super bowl eighteen win over the washington redskins thirty eight to nine now. I already know the answer to this. But i'm gonna let you answer it anyway. The key play in that game borka salads right well besides that the interception just before halftime crack that really broke the back of the redskins right sure did and speaking of go ahead charlie. Summer are defensive. Coordinator is the one that told. I can't remember the The players name but he's wanting intercepted the ball and he told them that that was gonna come out was going to be the play so for warning. Sure enough that that's what they ran and the intercept that the goal and and they have school. Yeah you mentioned about marcus allen. What a great career. He had with the raiders. And i you know he was the guy who gave the ball unsure down distance and crowded into the end zone. And everything tell me a little bit more about how you saw him as a player.

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And it's almost like you know real punitive justice and reminding them that they shouldn't have been out drinking and smoking and you know get handed to you in sparring by someone that you shouldn't boxer as the ring right. Yeah Tube. Box is probably the most humbling of all all the athletic endeavors. I mean there's no doubt of you You give each draw training You've gotta be you know. Most I thought about was running yesterday when I was running Must've it's mental and we just talked about like the Guy Jumping on board shoulder before quietness neck and the other shoulder to buy on your killers. Do I mean. I didn't tell you about that. Guy That guy shoulder most of the time. There's only a guy in a leftover. You tell me. You're about to swallow sky beneath them okay. But every once in a while you'd have been training or you didn't do something you shouldn't have done. That guy was showing up in your rights. Yoga conscious guy. Who said Hey. You'd be messing with me before. Fight the union the Yang the Yang. No doubt about that now House with this if you look at the current middle situation is canola middleweight. He's been campaigning at it. Now for a number of years so I have to say yes. Although I'm just last night was one hundred twenty five pounds so he hasn't thought of one six long time fight with Hobo from the UK was when sixty eight right right. I forget his name the Tony I got. It won't be in the hall thing right unless he goes like me as we buy tickets I mean his his best way probably is one hundred sixty pounds. Because you know he's selective one sixty eight at this point. I mean and selective light-heavyweight because I don't think he'll ever find someone like Arthur. Better be at one hundred seventy five pounds or even maybe Excuse Name One. Sixty eight from Pvc The Mexican drug problem. Burmese is right it. He's his weight depends on. Who's in front of him? You know who he. Who is the correct opponent for you know? I guess because Cannella box office appeal and him being the number one guy sport he could call the shots so and he's still young enough. I guess that he can go up and up and down in ways and not feel the after effects in a clean life outside of the rings and he's doing it the right way. I guess have a true but that's jumped twice a year but this jumping up wait and coming down in late I watch Rhineland Ribs. Jump up a wait. And then raith thought a bunch of guys. Over one hundred sixty thousand Mike ACRI condiments was saying day way against Hector Camacho which led to his demise in fact a ruptured Achilles In his right leg rate railway day. One sixty eight one six eight or ten years. You understand people a stupid move like that of wedge and went one six the same day just to show you. I'd tidbit interesting. Game as a genius. Who Eh Great? He was involved with Paul Spatafora Point. Exact mega exactly. Mike at us. Spatafora guy he was. Also Roberto Duran's Guy Ian Luta goumas Roberto Duran Backman Burger death. Usa BOXING COMEBACK. At the thing that the data more on the Iran. Barkley in the hat and stuff like that. I mean those were all that was Mike Adrian. Louis Dakota's running durant. I didn't I didn't know that that's a didn't realize that if he went that far back. Listen the good looking to coupons. They call him to cube. Whatever you WANNA come. He's good looking he's he. I think he's brilliant Mike Acri. He's at the smart light. Thinks he's I think he's smart. I really did Louise Really Reshot. Except when he came to Felix Trinidad because he had fields Drin- before Don King so Dribbles get knocked down by stock get knocked avenues. Get knocked out if is so Mike. Acri CONVINCES Louie Louie. Tubas the cut Trinidad Don King took them on. And then you became a superstar hall of Famer so I guess Mike a US wrong loose. At one instance happens this gentleman Mohammed didn't have back. Yeah yeah he did in inaugurated so that was a member that was early on and and and he was got. Actually it was Sydney. GotTa can't think of his last name but Sydney was a lawyer in law in in San Mateo California Discovery Pack Galindez in brought them to Muhammed. Nece got stuck with. That was his day anyway. Spending a day in the sun get some sunshine. Just don't come in contact with anybody Bro. Well it's raining and cloudy today here in New York. So it's we'll have to wait till tomorrow but thank you for the family and Faith Man. No doubt about that. Unity scores byline broadcast north at his boxing to page he the one the only Socrates Palmer. You knew ranked dot clive worldwide else. Worthwhile has Xm satellite radio. Of course the American forces network many lives. The break was real. This time. It's real main all star. I had took the decision. Now CLARITY IN THE WORLD PROFESSIONAL BOXING. You spelled it. Wbz Oh that's right. The World Boxing Organization is boxing. 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Man feels really good. Thank you to all the fans who who slept by me and who still support me and who are excited for me is just so energizing for me as an athlete and I really appreciate everyone so much now. More Ring Talk With Pedro Fernandez Dangerous. Any man being hit in the head the brains of delicate thing I think she should be well protected fulfils not qualified. He shouldn't be allowed to fight. But football is proven to have more deaths baseball ice hockey horse racing. His car races much more dangerous but I would advise no bad at the box if they get hit too much. It's too dangerous scoring load but it has never dragon when you're telling you are tuned to ring talk live worldwide. You're inside the box him. I I come down that clip. You heard John Jephson. Mohammed Ali. John Jones may be the greatest. Mma fodder all kinds of Muhammad Ali. Certainly the greatest boxer of all time. Anyway he's why tied to them together. Is John Jones arrested again? That's right the past couple of days. Because dressed in Albuquerque. New Mexico had a gun with them was drunk. Said he was stir crazy in some videotape of been floating around the Internet. The bottom line is you know jobs had a lot of problems. Really ask me yet. Cocaine Susan and I wasn't down. The cocaine should member. I gave him a pass on. The Coke Coke is not a performance enhancing drug money. I get what you want to mess. Around with Performance anti-drugs About Flintstone Vitamins Aka. Steroids are any amount into that. I'm not down. This is combat sportsman. This is for real. This is not. It's not hot dogs not badminton. Tennis is not golf. I'm not looking to swim and BUREAUC- record in even looking at breaking jaw rick among and I don't think I should have or anybody should have ended advantage when fighting me finding them. It just didn't go that way. I mean this is a boxing. Mma should be about his cream and his man to man or woman to woman as it can be as any score can be think about. You've got to people. They got to gloves period. Nothing else so why is there is a such issues in why we have such problems now of course boxing is a is taken hiatus as what should be accepted the Japanese clowns decided? They're gonNA come back with a card in They don't know what the future lies. Oh I guess that may be aspirational. Is that executive as an input? The wanted to open things up eastern wanted to open everything up by Easter Komo men and out was. Hey I will say one thing before before. Row on your The president one month ago yesterday said quote. We have cases. You soon will be zero end of quote yesterday. We had one hundred ten thousand cases in the United States. Now set your drink. Talk live worldwide inside the boxing. Mma WANT TO MENTION YOU. World Boxing Organization sponsor for a long time and the WVU. Or it's like everybody else's basically had to shut doors boxing's nine happening but we continue to support the WB L. as they have Supported ring talk for a long long time now pop when I go back a long time so only give all his prop score Francis move Drew how the evening is busy. He's as close to a box. Saying is you ever GonNa find in the world boxing. No doubt about that. He doesn't make his money from boxing. You make money being an attorney. So money and him as far as the boxing world doesn't register likely does with other people's far sanctioned vising. Sir You are to rank talk live worldwide Presi the. Us mentioned that John Jumping arrested. Oh US arrested with a gun and some gunshots also. They caught him with a gun and using a car and strongly admit. I heard him on adventure. Bugged buzz all night John Ellison troubling in I would like maybe five years ago I was arrested in upstate. New York only guide to dry got into an accident. Driving a Bentley Rolls West then. Of course the accident of years ago. This is a funny one. This was a funny member. This he's an Albuquerque New Mexico. He's coming back from getting laid. That's through I'll be straight to the point he's coming back from take care business Four thirty five o'clock in the morning and he gets into a car accident. He rushed to a red light and he gives us Bill Carson so hits US Ladies Car incidents of suffered a broken offshoots pregnant at the time so anyway she ends up near broken he gets out of the car. Whoa whoa realize what he does is give biggest silver dollars it looks lay and then he runs John Jones. I mean the only six to two hundred twenty mile black dude in the area that lean a running around town statements. Guy Albuquerque New Mexico. Everybody else John Joneses so everybody knew right then and there the John Jones recognizing the accident when we wait for the cops get there and this is about four or five minutes later. John Jones goes back to the. Yeah because back again I keep tonight. Guess let you lead out car less weed in the car a lead in the car and head to get. I had to get his pipes out of their kind of Desam Memorabilia. And of course he left a couple of Viagra so we figured I was. He left Biogra- condoms in the car. So whatever it was a leg doing home. He was skating on her somewhere else. At the end of the day John Jones was caught. Of course he ended up spending. I think little time on probation any jailed. Someone that you paid for a fine this time. He's going to the slant. No FINEST NO FINEST ON DANA WHITE. I do all was Dana. Was able to get people out of jail and Conor McGregor net New Zealand higher through a hand truck through a bus Lindemann glass shards. When somebody's I was basically in my mind. I mean I'm a student of the of the Penal Code having been a former policeman and I said that you there is a solid deadly weapon without a doubt or attempted murder one of the other day and got charged with nothing. I mean I didn't even suspended the USC so Dana White House. Juicing and comes out but Albuquerque New Mexico and a Black Guy. Sorry man they give you pass longtime they're not gonNA give you a pass again. Isn't happening back to the world. You'll see a date set for April. Eighteen descended on the way. This can happen but it might be a studio contest by studio contest. They will put the fires in warranty is what I'm hearing. Put the fighters subtype of quarantine and hope that could be Antoni. Ferguson will be for. I WANNA goes. Who's last name is tough anyway lately. Hundreds of five pounds undefeated in his lifetime ever lost around in a gym. Do not. That's a monster Laurie. Ec Unbeaten Tigers and animals all that kind of stuff on Youtube. You lonely baby only little boy to take on the very formal Tony Ferguson. I only Grigson most Mr being the learner. Usc lightweight champion Never Lost Championship but of course pouring holy water on his lack now. I know there's a lot of guys out the wasn't that let off on that one. That was the Horn holy water. I kid you not so. She called the cops played out on the break but she called cops. Tony Turns his wife called the cops. She said Strayed a little weird lady goes what he is he. Is he beating up to allow foreign holy water on yellow? Maybe yeah exactly. Thanks for the Devil Tony for you can be said to April eighteenth. They don't know where probably figured Usc Studio in Las Vegas Nevada where the canal anywhere bottom where. It's going to go down if it goes down April eighteen. I don't know I should be fighting. I mean because this you know. Here's what's up as a Capo Wind went into a Jimmy relations. We got to do all kinds of stuff and different stuff because we're commute officers. We weren't your average policemen on the street. I mean they put me in charge in while the presidential. Aw Protection of President Corazon Aquino from the Philippines stuff like that. We use juice gates really juicy but we also got clipped in a we also got the info got the memo's on the stuff that was going down like dirty bombs and germs. I can remember this inspector Jack Ballot on. I think he was headed intelligence televisions vision and he used to lay. Lay it out. And you know it's hard to protect if you can't protect possible. That's what I'm trying to Boston protecting us. Virus and germ warfare during ORKLA. So when I'm trying to say is stay in the house where. Usc putting on these fights. I mean they think they have an audience they have to The audience will be there at the end. Let how long this goes? Schwartz is going to have its audience. They're not going to go away for them to go. What do you think if people go away from Rome for movie houses till eventually they're going to go back movie house? Eventually people are GonNa go back to a normal way of life although the CDC is say today that America's GonNa be asked wear masks for indefinite period of time estimate. Come out in the next seven to ten days. So you heard that I talk live worldwide next seven days seven attendees the CDC here in the United States issue a mandate or a warning. Or whatever. You WANNA call it. Everybody in the United States should wear a mask from here on in until further notice. Cajun us that's big news coming down from the CDC trying to mix things got. They're trying to say hey any card of the girl that got screwed by the US or she upset. Dana White's album garden. They put her in a fight where she lit up the White House. Christmas you talk about rose. Now Hamada's good-looking girl. I mean I've been looking fighter beween. You upset Dana White Dana WEISKOPF plans. You go up there and you upset his applecart. You've upset the master. You've upset the pimple pets. I mean come on man when I worked as a cop sitting in San Francisco Okay I knew Pinson host. I mean that's part of my life downtown worker tantalite. That's who you knew. Those we sometimes your clients or sometimes e the sex lobbying criminal activities anyway if a pill at hull and he gave her a ten percent at ten ten o'clock on the dollar in other words. Maybe you were one hundred dollars and you give me back twelve now that that would work wouldn't work in work. Wouldn't wear wool would work. I mean this is. Capitalism would not work in the world pips no but it works in the world of the US eight because that's what the fighters get eight to twelve percent of the of eventual pie for every buck the USC makes the Vikings. Get twelve cents Max. That's what I'm hearing estimated. Twelve holy cow. Hopefully I lost. It will go forward in the fighter question had been joking. I thinking burn because as I said. You don't do favors for Dana. If you don't kiss his ass you know. He's very vindictive he's sort of like the present young president saying that. He's not returning phone calls from governors. You imagine that. Hey if you live in that state in Europe presidential supporter. How can you go down? I think you live with that when the gut the president said. They're not nice to me so so he's like the millions of people live state are. GonNa get spit on spit within eight by the federal government because the president doesn't get appreciated. Give me a break you. The money's worth bylined broadcast Lagging the rest of that Garni Yell Home Your House on outside of that. I'm not real real prompt on now. The big file wanted to see was Francis and I'll take it out kick boxing on March twenty thousand twenty percent nationwide arena Columbus Ohio. The home of busted the man. The thing of Oklahoma's I'll look is not denied. He speaks neither without a doubt. Do you ever been Columbus. Go to ninety feet so they cut it and they cut up. Little Square surround peachable. They cut up little squares. It's really cool like on the best beaches in the entire effect. That's what it'll take to easy to order it and get it do appear on the elite area on the West Coast. I do it in a heartbeat Saito. You are totally rank top. Live where what inside the world of boxing? Mma boxing not happening right now. It's on hold so the Japanese. Of course they want to bring it back to them I'm GONNA air on the side of caution as I think all of you should as we all should not as not as Americans not as as a human beings this is all about you and I as as humans living in right now. You've got to look at this at this virus thing and I know this is gonNA sound a little blunt which you got the virus much like I looked at the AIDS The eighth outbreak. In late nineteen seventy s otherwise. I just wanted my pants okay. We're trying to tell you this. This is not that way. You can't just keeping your pants. You can get it by hanging around people so stay in the house working essay and I need to say Walmart. Please stay in the house. You are -tunities by live broadcast. Hurt you or your children. No No. You're okay. We re just random stuff you know. Put Cold Water on me. I don't know what's going on with that. Are you gonNA stop somewhere with the police? So they can talk to you a walk and then. Hey whoa go. Hey travelers save money on your next flight. Then pick up the phone and call. That's right call because the best prices are not online. They're with smartfares. See smartfares has special deals with the airlines. When they have unsold seats they use smartfares to fill them. So you get airline tickets at ridiculously low prices. Our prices are too low to publish online with the extra money. You'll save you. 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Hor But the Star of our program gentlemen always sits right across from me at least six to nine feet away here during this corona virus scare for talking about the one and only acting legend the all pro defensive end the man who was a member of the New York giants the New England Patriots for a brief moment and of course the Los Angeles Rams and he's sporting maybe not supporting the new Ram logo. Ladies and gentlemen I give you the one and only Fred Dryer not only might not supporting the new logo of the Ramsey. You know and they had to release this idiocy. Yes At a time when we don't need more things to complain about I don't I'm complaining on an everyday basis about the little things in life that had been interrupted. And now you have to deal with the This this corporate blunder that they've made here with this Reinventing of the Ram logo amazing to me. A little might not like it. I don't think you like I do not like him. 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The all pro defensive end the acting legend from UNTER. Who's perturbed today because this? La Rams Their Marketing Department has come up with their long-awaited you know they're gonNA move into a new stadium this year. If they ever get football going again with the with astroturf by the way they are going to have astroturf share anyway. They're gonNA have ASTROTURF and they're going to have the Jersey redesign and it was the complete things GonNa be an unveiled but they've got their new logos and their team colors. Now they still have. The rams royal is is a shade of blue and they've got saul which is shade of yellow and It's GonNa be Sophie Stadium. What is Sophie? Stand for Fred Dryer. I think that's co-head you think. I should say Sophie Tucker Stadium. Steve's Sophie Talky Talky Talk Anyway but anyway it's They got a brand new stadium with a brand new ASTROTURF and a brand new uniform. The brand new logo jet fans sitting there with a mouse. Hang in there going crazy. You're getting emails here. Joe Says Well Hell. He says the colors are great on the new logo. But it looks it. Looks like a goat. The horns do not go all the way around to be Iran. Which is kind of what you're talking about. It's more of a goat or you see you see the picture there. You see how the the the front of the logo as it were horns start in the front of the hat yes that has to be a wide base and it has to overlap into V. And as it goes up it separates into the horns. They don't have that here because For some reason you know. They decided they want to horns to be separate and apart. I don't understand you. GotTa head there with horns coming off their separate and apart. And you're not gonNA look good on the on the him. We'll see what the what they're doing here but they're you know. Joe Says he said come on. It's not an la dominating logo with Sesame Street Saturday morning cartoon. Is that what you think? It opens up to a so much criticism when you see this this thing with the l. a. the horns with the L. A. On on the left right there. Yeah that's This is just this cartoon but this is really the you mean. They came back from Saint Louis three four years ago. Whatever it was and they built a stadium and they play games here in the Coliseum. They've entertained the alumni and they're now saying we're back this is the La Rams of old and they come up with this. This is what they come up with after all that time. This is a apparently. That's what they come up with after all that time. So and Robert Says Robert Goulet by the way you don't suppose anyway. Robert says the La Rams Marketing team is going after a younger demographic as if the younger demographic is the one spending the money with a bunch of question. Marks there right. I don't know if this is aimed at a demographic or not they you know this this groups of people to get together and they said let's hire someone to think for us and go into a room and let us let us think on this. Mr Cranky and we'll go back we'll bring is something instead of Mr Cranky. Say now. This is what I want. I want that that I want to come back and do this. This this and this is a failed committee response to somebody who doesn't know what they want the rams and Valiente new logo this weekend if you've been on twitter we're getting social media here at Fred Dryer. Crn Talk Dot Com. But the RAMS Executive Kevin off says he's at least trying to funnel the hate he says in a positive direction he told the Guy Usa today that if the telethon fund-raising the rams hell Tuesday top two million and donations to benefit a local corona virus of relief in which is a good thing and he read the most hateful of the tweets and he said if some self depreciating humour in people taking shots at me can raise money for someone who needs a meal. That's the best thing I can do with my time according to To Kevin Dem often. He said he should have plenty to choose from. Because apparently The fans are not filled with this with this new look and he said Demo said the response has been positive in terms of the blue and yellow color change. No it hasn't changed things he says people on the Internet are going to Squawk says including his own families as my kids are more excited about it than anything else. It's so maybe it's a cartoon thing. Maybe the kids are going like in this kind of thing and But the fan base is apparently not. Well you know you. Can you can appeal to a younger audience. And a younger demographic if you wish they don't spend money and and you want to you want people who You want people of all strategies of of the financial culture you know he want people who have never been to a Ram game. You want them to come. You want to introduce them to come and you want them to look at a uniform that that is made by committee job. This is a this is a committee blunder. And you've got to stop it. You gotta get someone you know. They They invited some of the alumni over to the abilities. Yeah this over a year ago and and I took that Ram Helmet. I'm talking to you about you. Took it over. Took it over to them and pulled it out and set it on the table and they all went. Wow that's great. Oh that's good. They took pictures of and the guy says. I'm going to take some photographs of this and this. This could really help us. This is really good. Thanks thanks Fred. Okay so I put it back in the sack and took home and I realized on my way home. It's all a stroke. You know they're not They're not going to consider anything. It doesn't come. It doesn't come from them. If it was terrible it would be all right as long as it came from them. So so we another email here from rams brothers. That's the name year trying to understand. Why these logo focus groups wouldn't include. Hashtag rams legends like Fred Dryer there the pillars of this franchise and built a legacy big mess. So they did have you over. But they didn't listen to you. Well I brought them a visual aid. No one else did. I bought them. I said look you know. Certainly it's this year. Two thousand one of the two thousand seventeen. I think certain seventeen or eighteen. I set the helmet down. The table only took photographs of it and they looked at a pass it around and I said you see what makes this different than the helmet you have now. The rams had the horns that were even more separate right then when I played just I've got shots on our sports lounge screen here. Roku I've got that where they split them on us and nobody really liked it but nobody complained about it. And that's one of the things you know I. I talked to Carroll Rosenbloom years ago when he took over the dam. I said you know if you're GONNA come here and seventy two but you bought the team in seventy two. And he is. His goal was to change the uniform colors the following year at the same time. He was changing coaches. So Tommy pro throw in the white uniform left and Chuck Knox and the Blue and gold came in and it created a whole new kind of like a recycling of energy and excitement at the Coliseum. But I said you gotta put the helmets back. The way they used to be and he looked at me and said what. What are you talking about? You know? Some people don't see the obvious that includes owners that is true. Fake look at Jim Crane on the Houston Astros. Hey what are those guys beating on a trash can with that video back there? What are you guys doing their golly? I'll get some more trash cans cheating coach. Oh count me. We'll take a quick break. Come back with more. It is sports loud. Michael Horn Fred Dryer. Thanks for joining us. The smartest way for you to get the lowest prices on your plane. Tickets domestic or international is the cost smartfares first or last. But you gotTA call us before You Book Your Plane. Tickets fly anywhere in the world. Fly Anywhere in the. Us and smart bears can save you up to seventy five percent on your plane tickets. We HAVE THE LOWEST AIRLINE TICKET. Prices on over five hundred airlines. And you've got a great twelve hour three cancelation window. Plus with our live agent help you can always get fast out and fast answers so on your next trip. 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Pamelas out there. She says logo by the way for the rams she says. Mooring Zach is tuned in. Bruce's there Beverly tuned in Valerie has said hello to you. Val Valerie says hi. Hi To us. And she says she twenty. Twenty twenty one. I think they're going to. They're going to have three years off to the next to the next contest before before they you know. Cancel this one all right. So here's the thing for a job. We have to talk about this because you and I were watching the same game some of the local regional networks on cable TV and satellite or whatever the chicken tune into our showing games from the past. In Fact Vin. Scully made a big Said that he was interviewed by the La Times. And the reporter Plachy. Bill latchkey recorded it in the e went ahead and played it back. And it's good to hear Vince voice talking about it and good positive style from Vince Gully. So here's the thing you watch this game and it was. I think the t the mattingly was the dodgers twenty fifteen the dodgers clinching the national league west against the giants up to giant stadium and Kershaw and just from fifteen till now twenty twenty. He was upset that he was taken out of the game the time before he was saying he got mad at Mattingly. He pitched a complete game. One hit shutout. I'm saying what's changed here. Is the arm speed down as the UMPIRES? Not Giving them the calls. But I'm thinking people are tune into that game. Here's another deal. Think UP IN NASCAR. This last Saturday had a virtual race. They put this on the Fox sports one and they had nine hundred and three million viewers. Now it's not anywhere near close to one of the NASCAR races that they have where they get four and a half million viewers but this was the highest rated televised East sports event. Ever and so. They're now at the Fox sports when they've committed to carrying the whole season which will continue until NASCAR gets back scheduled programming with a special news alert. You and I like to get closer to the microphone but Mike is taken this to what the governor knew someone everybody says to do. So that's why you better means business gets so We Jennifer thought. Maybe you should tell some of your story like like the the time you were even even beach and you had to use the facilities and there were story listeners. Not Something Fred. Requests some stores. Here's the thing there's another picture we gotta show you. This was sent to us from Pam. And she said Good afternoon Mr Dryer. Kind of like you run. The mission impossible. Good afternoon Mr Drier. This is one of your all female fans favorite photo of you. It's from October nine eighty-nine now we gotta wait anyway. One hundred episode on Air with the Guest Aaron. Gray you aren't you are really those APPs. There you got the that Joe. Six pack is going there on gets shirt. They'll look at you. You're falling in love with yourself. Your regular scheduled programing was special news alert. Good afternoon everyone. Thank you for joining us again today. I have some terribly sad news to announce among the fatalities over the last twenty. Four hours was a state employee. A member of our team at the Department of Human Services and an infant may their memories. Be a blessing. I know how difficult this news can be. Especially about this young child upon hearing it. I admit I was immediately shaken. It's appropriate for any of us to grieve today. It's especially sorrow for sorrowful for the family of this very small child for the years. Stolen from this infant. We should grieve. We should grieve with our family of state employees. Many people who we've already lost to this virus young and old we should grieve the loss of sense of normalcy. That we left behind just a few weeks ago. It's okay today to grieve. I've learned through personal experience at grief is bridge. It gives us permission to experience the sadness that we need feel in order to move forward helps us empathize with the people in our community. That are hurting. It helps us to lift them up. And I'm here to tell you maybe the most important thing that I know that this will pass we will carry are lost family members and friends with US forever and someday their memories will not bring grief but the grace we need so that we can live on and love again Harrison. What everyone to know what I've learned from the experts that I rely upon that Cova did is rarely fatal in children that sending home workers who are non essential has kept many from contracting covert. Nineteen that the drastic and necessary measures. That we've taken as a state to slow. The spread of this disease are the right course of action. Today marks one week that are since are stay at home order was putting in place. We're increasing testing capacity every day. We're stopping at nothing to obtain supplies and equipment that we need for our hospitals and our medical workers and continue to do everything necessary to bend this curve. Keep Illinois and safe and healthy. Based on science data and the guidance of health experts are approach to fighting this viruses. Two-pronged suppress the spread and increased hospital capacity to meet the need a critical component of are increasing. Our capacity is identifying and building out additional facility across the state to support our existing hospitals and healthcare systems. I E Ph I emma the Illinois National Guard and the Army Corps of Engineers have been hard work collaborating with our local officials on where we're seeing the largest concentration of potential additional need in partnership with the city of Chicago and the US Army Corps of Engineers. Were planning to use the city. Mccormick Place Convention Center as Illinois's First Field Hospital. I'll provide more detailed on this effort for the public in the coming days but the baseline is that we're not waiting for the worst. We're preparing ourselves for the worst. My team also continues to scour the global supply chain for P. P. and has already placed orders for millions of units of we've been shipping these out to counties across the state as needed. And as they arrive. I'm proud that we've had the support of hundreds of businesses and thousands of people who have reached out with donations and to ask how they can do more on behalf of the doctors nurses and healthcare workers all across our state in addition to IBM and Ph and my team. At the governor's office. I want to express my eternal gratitude to each of the individuals and companies that have thrown their own stores of supplies and equipment into the MIC. Each mask or gown or set of gloves will make a difference for one of our frontline workers and all of our donors should be extraordinarily proud of the part that they've taken in fighting this covert nineteen and because receiving their donation. This afternoon I want to specifically recognize McDonald's corporation headquartered here in Chicago for today giving us an additional four hundred thousand and ninety five masks to protect our essential workers in the fight against Kobe. Nineteen if you or a business owner that you know thinks that they may have supplies that could help including tech parlors nail salons and elective surgery centers and podiatrist clicks and dermatology clinics and even construction companies. I encourage you to contact us and a member of my team will be in contact with you. The email to send to us is at P. T. E. DOT donations at Illinois Dot Gov P P dot donations at Illinois Dot Gov. My team is also doing everything in our power to make sure that all of our residents can access the health care that they need in these trying times this is especially true for our Medicaid population more than three million in Illinois and those who suddenly find themselves in need of health insurance to be put in every waiver that we can with the federal government to expand health care availability during the period. One we've worked to ensure that no one will lose Medicaid as we work to stop cove in nineteen we're asking to temporarily suspend the annual renewal process that Medicaid recipients normally through number two. We've worked to fast-track Medicaid enrollment through the limitation of time consuming review procedures as well as the suspension of numerous copayments spend downs and asset verifications. Making it easier than ever for new applicants to get assistance three. We've worked to guarantee covered costs for covert nineteen treatment to all of our uninsured residents regardless of hell and four. We've worked to have. All our insured was covered for any out of pocket expenses relating to covert nineteen treatment. Boss we've already received waivers allowing us to suspend prior authorization meaning doctors and providers. Don't have to wait for approval. Before they can offer Medicaid care and streamlining Roman system on the provider side finally were exploring how to allow any medical provider. Illinois to Bill Medicaid. We're also awaiting approval of a waiver to further expand home delivered meals. Help people stay at home and still get the nutrition. They need finally before I turn it. Over to Dr Zeke game. I want to touch our work to ensure that all our residents can access food the food that they need when they go to the grocery store in as safe a manner as possible. Since my previous announcement about grocery stores offering dedicated hours to older and more vulnerable shoppers we continued to work with the retail merchants association to make shopping a safer experience. That continued reassessment has resulted in a new best practice. That grocery stores will be rolling out in the coming days affect several new procedures. These include sign it at the entrance and throughout store alerting customers that they must follow the six foot separation rule to continuous announcements of social distancing rules throughout the store on their systems setting up floor markers to socially distance at checkout lines encouraging cashless just as for speed at checkout dedicating staff to regular regularly walking the floor to help customers follow the social distancing rules placing shield guards in front of the cashier or the bag. Her that may not be six feet away from the customer temporarily prohibiting reusable bags encouraging the use online ordering and curbside pickup and encouraging the use of cell checkout lanes to reduce the number of interactions our grocery store it leads to make with customers to be clear. There's nothing new. Customers need to know before shopping. Other than to be vigilant about their social distancing practices as we're asking stores take their requirements as clear as possible but it is up to each individual to follow our social distancing requirements as your governor I skew to courteous and be respectful in any interaction with the grocery store clerks and workers always but especially as they go to work every day when so many are staying home and especially if they ask you to comply with one of these guidelines remember. They're looking out for you as much as they are looking out for themselves or anyone else thank you and now I'd like to turn it over to Dr Zika for today's medical update. I know it's obvious to all of you. But is it is really a privilege to serve under this governor his passion for the people of Illinois and his intense diligence to make sure that we weather. This storm Until its end. Thank you so much for your commitment. Today's a really hard day I'm reporting four hundred sixty five new cases and thirteen additional deaths including the tragic death of an infant there has never before been death associated with cove in nineteen in an infant's a full investigation underway to determine the actual cause of death want everyone Illinois to take cove in one thousand nine hundred series if you haven't been paying attention. Maybe this is your wake-up call. We do know that. Cova nineteen leads to death but it also leads to recovery in the majority of cases to minimize the number of death. Let's practice social distant. Let's stay at home. Let's wash our hands. Let's cover our cough. Let's frequently let. Let's clean frequently touch surfaces? We must continue to do everything we can to prevent the spread of this deadly virus. If not to protect yourself then please do it to protect those around you yes. Older adults are at highest risk of severe illness. More than eighty five percent of the death in Illinois are among individual sixty years of age and older studies show that diabetes heart disease lung disease liver disease being on hemodialysis pregnancy. These are things that put people at Additional Risk. However people of all ages and people even healthy will and have contracted the virus and can develop severe illness including death right now. The only way to stop the spread of this virus is to reduce the number of people infected which means reducing the number of people exposed again. That leads us back to what we need to do. The best way to accomplish this is to stay at home. I'm sounding like a broken record. Because the truth remains the truth these actions will help us. End this pandemic. We must continue to take this corona virus seriously even if you might only have a mild illness that same illness someone else could have a very tragic results. Let's protect all of our fellow citizens now. I will summarize the comments in Spanish when I started this me. I'm on Cassia. Ck's director departmental they salute Riccardi in Illinois boy. What does the Center Cinco Castles Nuevas in where this issue analysis clue so let me be? So premera wealthy associated cove in nineteen and in a lunar emphasize almost. When I investigated soon. 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I'm not sure that he actually completed. The call forty suggested that he may call for it Look I I have to say that. That New York New Jersey. That's higher area. You know several of lead in our say at home mortars Relatively early indeed. I think we were among the very first states And so I'm not sure what what the president has in mind quarantining but if we here in Illinois do what people should be doing following the rules. According to the state home order then we will be able to bend the curve here. But I think we're all deeply concerned about what happening in New York and clearly happening in New Jersey There are hot spots around the nation and in Chicago is now being referred to by some as a hot spot So we're all watching what's happening. And how the president and the federal government are reacting to them. Because at some point we too are going to be reaching a peak and we will want to know. What can we expect from the federal government because frank so far? We haven't received enough support for what we think you know. We're going to reaches a height of ICU. Admissions and hospitalizations. How well people let me start by saying the vast vast majority of people in Illinois are doing precisely what we asked them to do But the others the people who aren't obeying this state of moral that are putting everyone in it doesn't take that many people frankly to to break the rules and to cause danger to others in their community People are. I don't know they aren't listen. They haven't heard what Dr Zeke had said. Maybe they aren't turning the television and watching National News. I'm not sure why people are during this those who are But as I said yesterday and as I've repeated over and over again people need to do what's right and right now the fact that you're bored that you like you want to go get a pick up basketball game going with your friends. I'm sorry but this is not the time for going to die. If you don't obey the rules please please stay at home. Do Your best to follow the rules. One more in here and then we gotta get hurt virus. I'm deeply concerned about first responders. Police fire healthcare workers obviously We have provided for Police departments fire departments and first responders The kind of P P that they need in the near term and as we acquire more people make sure that they have the stores that are necessary for the day's going forward very important for us to make sure that those very essential workers those first responders are kept safe. And as you saw we opened up a special testing facility just for our first responders and our healthcare workers to make sure that they get priority in this effort and they have the ability to get the test as soon as they are deemed by their doctor purpose to get the test history. We've never seen this kind of application You know Deluge that's happening to the state So we're we're working every day to make that we're being responsive we've asked people to Sagger their application processes their calls as well as their online applications because frankly the systems weren't nor was the staffing built to withstand this kind of onslaught. Nevertheless we had our best day ever in the history of ideas on Friday Where we had a lot of incoming Applications and the system held up well to take in those many applications so we asked people again to have some patients working through some of the challenges but also to work with US online for what you have learned about. Cova nineteen do people get it and recover and then become immune or can become reinfected by the virus handed over to the professional so again. I've been souring the articles from around the world in terms of trying to amass knowledge about this virus. This virus seems to be a stable versus in that it doesn't seem to mutate very Significantly so if you get this vice. We think that you develop antibodies within less and we think that that will give you immunity and ads. I think this is very important for people to understand Those who have contracted and who recover if it is true as I think most epidemiologists now believe if it's true that you essentially developed the antibodies that make you effectively immune from getting it again. That means that there are cadres. Thats people who already have recovered Who can't get it again and therefore D- You know are. Are we as we start to develop a larger number of those? We can for that many people who caught it never were tested for it. recovered thought they might have had the cold We can test for that in the aftermath. And I think we're GONNA find that. We have many many many people who are immune. We still have many people who've gotten us yet. So that's the danger that we haven't seen any governor. You obviously have teenage children. How do you as a father talk to them about what's happening with cove? Nineteen and what advice? Do you have for parents explaining what's going on with the pandemic to their children especially young children? I have admonished my children to follow the rules. And they have You know the the our kids and I think men kids are used to using the Internet to communicate with one another. So that's I think a benefit to them that maybe we didn't have as kids But you know in talking to them. I've also said don't watch TV news Because you know it's okay to keep up with news and I'm sure that they do. I know that they do but don't want all day. Don't turn on CNN or or or MSNBC or God Forbid Fox And Try to follow this through the news. It's it's not worth doing And then I just had one more thing which is for very young children You know I remember the just immediate aftermath of of nine eleven And I it's very important for children to ease the concerns of. They're very young children that and let them know. We're going to get through this and I want to say this to everybody watching listening today. We are going to get through this. We are working very hard to make sure that we keep everyone healthy and safe. We are going to get through this and when we get on the other side of it. I think we'll look back and say we did everything we could and I think did the right thing at the right times. There have been concerns expressed by members of the public about delays getting testing results. Back how long does it? Typically take test results to process Let me say this there there are different laboratories that have different turnaround times and of course the more specimens you take in If you have limited amount of capacity to process those tests there can be a lag in in returning the results of tests. The commercial batteries that the federal government has contract with Are Inundated and it is taking more days to get something back from a commercial laboratory which used to be the fastest providers Than it does to get a test back from our state labs or from your local hospital or provider that had their own testing capability So we're trying to you know talk to the federal government about speeding up that process but more importantly here in Illinois were acquiring more testing capability in and Dahlie. The test. Kits is. We've talked about the past and all the pieces of the supply chain but the actual machines that are doing the work of of giving result. And so we're building up our internal test capability and a lab technicians and all of the supplies so that we can do it better and faster within the state of Illinois because the federal government honestly their process has not severed fast results if the governors are betting against each other for things like p and the federal government is not overseeing this. Why don't governors just organize themselves to buy one and divide up the goods? Maybe this could come up. With a voluntary buying consortium well that question sounded came from a business person because I have for many days now. Been been working with other states I have talked to other governors about their needs by making sure that we take package You know demand requests To the various suppliers so that were you know. Buying in bulk essentially for multiple states. So we're doing that. We're working with different states. Different P P in ventilators and so on. We all have enormous needs. But this points up a problem that you all should be aware of which is what we ought to be doing. Is doing these kinds of purchases on mass through the federal government. They should have led this to begin with a said this over and over again. I'll repeat it. The Defense Production Act. Which only now has been invoked for one circumstance for one supplier and that was GM. Yesterday Should be invoked across the board because there are a lot of manufacturers out there and as I have said are selling often to countries other than the United States and they have an order book. That looks like you know. One of the require one of their customers thema and then they're competing against New York they're competing against California against Illinois and and all the rest of the states that are gonna put orders in so those were at the bottom of the list and I tried to move up those lists but those who are at the bottom of this may not see a ventilator till you know potentially months after they peak in terms of their patients in there. So that's not going to be useful for many states. Is the administration during any action related to stopping doctors from stockpiling drugs? That may be used. As a treatment corona virus the administration did not seem to be stopping any the stockpiling of of drugs. What I know is that It is true that there is not yet a known approved treatment for Corona Virus Covert Nineteen. Please take note that 'cause I know that there's some misinformation out there You know even the president has repeated sometimes What I know is that we have ongoing. Tests are terrific. globally recognized medical institutions here in. Chicago and in Illinois. Those tests are around a new drug applications There's one called Ramdas severe which is being Manufactured by and put forward by Gilead still unproven but but it does has seemed to be somewhat effective so far the tests. Have to be ongoing. Here we have to get to know because you don't know what the side effects are going to be and the side effects can sometimes be worse. You know than the original disease that you're treating are the viruses treating so We're continuing to watch that and And to make sure that we're staying ahead of it And of course the federal government needs to step in here and make sure that those drugs are available to all the states as needed when they become approved. And it'll be our question. What is the situation with? Vail ability of ventilators in this day. We all see what is going on in New York. How FAR BEHIND THEM? The appeared appear to be an. Are we ready to handle a similar situation to the one that is taking place at York? Virtually every state doesn't have enough ventilators. That's just a fact. There was nowhere in the United States. That was ready for pandemic The federal government has said they have ten thousand ventilators on hand just to give you a sense New York alone right now. Says they need thirty thousand more ENTA- leaders so the federal government wasn't ready for this either And and to be honest. The president the current president. Although he's blamed previous presidents also wasn't ready and hasn't gotten US ready even though we knew for two months. Now that This was going to be a problem so So what we're doing is acquiring ventilators. Wherever we can we've collected up ventilators there around the state of village certainly anybody. That's listening to the nose of a ventilator that has not been contributed to or or or made available to the state to local hospital Please come forward. Let us know about that. we're out in the market acquiring many ventilators as we possibly can Currently you know we don't have enough. We need thousands more than we have today. there is suck about ventilators being move around the country as hot spots. Flare Up But it's not clear to me whether for example New York will start ramping down. There need fast enough for Illinois to be able to use. What New York Currently you know his knee needs and won't may not need at the other side of their peak so we're not relying upon that we're just out in the market acquiring any piece of ventilator equipment that we can and as you may have read even in the State of Illinois the University of Illinois Or pain has developed a ventilator product that WH- usable For us to band are ventilator capabilities across the state. Thank you thank you line at Hartland. Newsbeat DOT COM. 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March Twenty Eighth Nineteen fifty ivory murder case a jungle killing two million dollars in ivory and eventual native leads to a classic locked room. Murder Mystery Bilo bands from Let's see it seventy years ago today. March Twenty Eighth Nineteen fifty and we thank you for joining us on this Saturday Twentieth Day of March the Eighth Day of twenty twenty in occupied France British naval forces rated the german-occupied port of Saint Nazaire in one thousand nine hundred forty two in nineteen forty six. The State Department released the AITCHISON Lilienthal report. Outlining a plan for the international control of nuclear. Power was on this date back in one thousand nine hundred seventy nine in Pennsylvania. A pump in the reactor cooling system failed in the Three Mile Island accident resulting in the evaporation Hinson contaminated water and causing a nuclear meltdown. From the high radiation readings. That are being Measured inside the reactor containment We have to assume that there has been some damage to the nuclear fuel in the reactor core How are we are not a at this time to his success? What the nature of the damage is or what the extent of it is. I'm sure that some of them got some exposure but I'm I am positive that No one was overexposed. There was a problem in feed water. Pump that resulted in the shutdown of the reactor unit number two three Mile Island In the course of that happening we followed the normal Precautionary emergency procedures notifying the various Agencies of of the State and local governments now Metropolitan Edison company spokesman told people not to be alarmed but one worker at the said he was done. I think that is. I think twice about going back to work. Be Honest with you. You know scares me scares. The government. Spent almost fifteen years cleaning up the mess with a price tag of over a billion nineteen ninety four dollars over one point six billion today president. George Herbert Walker Bush posthumously. Awarded Jesse Owens the Congressional Gold Medal on this date in nineteen ninety and in two thousand. Murray County Georgia school bus got hit by a freight train. Three children died from the accident. Passing away on this date in history. Virginia Woolf Jim Thorpe W C Handy Emmett Kelly a decanes Maria von Trapp Game Show Host Art James SP- Former Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger Banjo player. Earl scruggs of the Foggy Mountain Boys James Noble and President Eisenhower. Best known for his war exploits as he left office. He offered this warning. And the Council of Government. We must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence whether sought or unsought by the military industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist with. Never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. President Eisenhower who passed away on this date back in nineteen sixty nine and Abilene Kansas boy. Back from my neck of the woods born on this date in history bandleader Paul. Whiteman Marlin Perkins a naturalist best known for his hosting of the wild kingdom progress. For Mutual of Omaha a politician Edmund muskie composer songwriter. Jay Livingston probably best known for the theme for my three sons actor. Dirk Bogarde National Security Adviser is a big New Brzezinski. Who always had a name? Nobody could get right. I'm surprised I said it right actor Ken Howard and Mr Perfect curt heading all borne on this date in history. The man known as the Donald Trump of the Philippines Rodrigo Duterte Day. Who is the president and I have to tell you a controversial figure who is loved and hated by his people? Not Unlike our president seventy five years of age singer actress. 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Tom I'd as well rest for a little bit and try to make it all the way back to camp tonight. Whatever you say Joe Funniest thing about how do you mean? We woke up this morning. A couple of guys without any money. We go to sleep tonight millionaires. I've really found as at least two million had to get paid for coming all the way to Africa and not that there's does matters. Stop those time chanting. Wonder what they mean. I hope that they may and everything is okay with data. What is it excuse? We used to fish the thumb Dunkin. Let me ask you question now. Who A CHRISTIAN AHEAD. See Police to leave ivory here where you'll find it she. It belong here They do go back and tell them that the blocks to ever finds it and found it. Tell them cut those top tops. Lose Mr Hillary put. Tom Comes mean what they tell me to ask you to live here now. I'm not cut it out unload them on. I'm not sure. Other natives native superstitious what natives are. Let's skip them from the. Let's talk about you. May what about just in case. There's any doubt in your mind Joe. Let's understand this. I don't trust you to. It's nice to know at the I bring it back. And you'll sell it through your. What do you intend to do about paying me off? I've thought about that time. That's nice. You know what I'm entitled not you suddenly do and I've just decided what you're GONNA get out. Suppose you tell me sure. I'll do better than that now. John you wanted to know what I was going to do about paying you off to not time a hard way. Take a letter to DMC son. Bolton Building Spent Hillary Gentleman. I've just returned from Africa with a quantity of ivory which I believe you will be interested qualities. Excellent samples available immediately. Your inspection will be no when it will be convenient. Excuse Days Hillary. No what are you doing in this country. All right come back Ivory Mitch. The Hillary ivory belong in my country. Get Out of here at ivory blocks to get out I've already found by you and Mr. Trump Duncan Mr Hillary. Mr Tom Dunkin. Oh come back with you. Stand don't know what happened to the. Tom Duncan get Outta here. Sorry throw knife into this and all they want to show it good ding if ivory return very good thing for natives and for Mr Hillary lose. Adum Mrs Duncan Tony Margaret. We should be here at any moment now. You have spoken to Mr Vent. Yes right after you called me and said. You'd be down here at my office. Markham said he'd be here and I'm sure he will now that I've seen you. I'm not sure I want him here. Oh that's very flattering. I do better with a little encouragement. Let me understand something. You did want me to investigate your husband's death that's true. Isn't it away after France although Marcum Marcum this Mrs Tom Duncan her husband disappeared mysteriously while in Africa on an ivory hunt? She thinks some investigating ought to be done. How do you do Mrs Dunkin at the moment was very attractive men? It seems as if I'm doing pretty well. Suppose we get down to facts. Mrs Duncan I suppose that might be an idea Mr Mark as I told you. My husband was on an ivory hunting expedition in Africa. He didn't return. He went with a man named Joe. Hillary and Hillary claims Tom Dissipate in the jungle and couldn't be found Hillary's back in this country. Yes I'll talk to him Mrs Dunkin. Well it seems to me that you accepted rather casually the fact that your husband is dead there observing in view of that Mrs Dunkin. Why are you so interested in finding out who might have killed him conceding that he was killed as you obviously imagine why I want to know who killed my husband. Well Joe. Hillary brought back a fortune. An ivory. I think of that Ivy belongs to me. I'm the kind of a person who doesn't get what I deserve. Only what I want. Sorry I had to come out of the House. Take the rest of those. Let us down to work on your day off all right Joe. I've been here before. Remember let's forget all that for now. Please get out of my workshop here in the basement. I'll give you a sample of that. I want you to go out and type the letters you gave him. Yeah I very much hope yesterday after that native. Tondo came to my office work after that. I'm not over yet. Sorry about your nerves. Here we are and your little fortress. I could never do any work in a place like this because there are no windows places. Small condition like myself. And I think better plan better. Take a look inside while I get the sample. I've seen the inside. You've got so much junk in it. There's hardly room to sit down tools and nails and springs and vices. And what's the use given the ivory and I'll get on with? My work is the sample when it come in a minute. Now thank you. I'll see you later. Salang say what are you doing? Joe Putting a bar across the door. I don't want to be disturbed. I really don't want be Steph. Wouldn't it be funny Joel? If you were disturbed despite anything you might do to protect yourself. And I don't understand Mister Ben indicated when I was in your office that you would work on my husband's disappearance Duncan and I will but there's no reason for my coming to your apartment to make my plans like you to come. I want you to have a special interest in this case me much to disconcerting. I'm afraid no. Please let me call you back when. I find out something about your husband. Ray there isn't anything else I can do. Goodbye vents. Happy Hunting and the same to you by. I think I'd better go be Mrs some. Don't I duNno? How'd you get in here? Who WINDOW RIGHT OUT TO LINDA? Whoever you are and fast Naga down away I said Joe gave away all gone Measham. Don't think Nah. Will you get out of here on my talk? Give me gone take guard. Somebody got me. She don't nobody want on work for Mr Duncan in own country and Mr Hillary fine ivory on Ono what happened to Mr Duncan Mr. Tom Duncan dead. Missed a Hillary Gilliam. I help you prove this to police. Unless MR HILLARY RETURN. I've already told me I must bring ivory back so that's the ideas and Joe did kill Tom. Saddam Tondo sit down. Maybe we can work out something after roll. It seems logical to me if we ought to find out what happened to Tom. Duggan Africa we come here to see. Joe Hillary man he was with degree mark. Definitely that's coming up. Joyce Rather Nice House. Hillary lives in. Yes it is Pepsi. Should've phone make sure he's in would have given him too much of a chance to have somebody say he wasn't paying again. Your logic goes unquestioned bags you want have a Lebel. I think I can take care of that. Went with a murderer in Africa. Still come under your jurisdiction Markle. What events that remains to be seen were a murder and if you do. I'm Filo Vance and this is district attorney Markham. Oh I'm Donna Benton do you want to Mr Hillary? Ese is please come in? I'm as to Hillary Secretary. I've been working here. All afternoon was taking a nap when the bell rang. Mr Hillary is still in his workshop. I imagine workshop yes. It's down in the basement. He goes relax. It's right down this way. The cellar steps you spend down here when he's under strain and he certainly is since he got back from. Africa brought back two million dollars in ivory. That's enough to put anybody unrestrained certainly is you know when I left him down here this afternoon. He even put a bar on the inside of the door. That's odd well here. We are just a second. Perhaps he fell asleep to. There's no place to sleep in there. Just a room full of tools and junk doesn't sound too comfortable at Mr Hillary. Hillary the doors lock just a moment while I try that Keyhole keys. Still in IT Margaret. There's an accident there on the corner. You think something's happened to misty. Hillary certainly seem so any windows in that room. None the only way you can get in or out is through this door and it's locked from the inside is the accident. You stand back all of you. Nothing's happened to him. I hope you are. You got through the panel. Reten turn key ED and all its doors. Open the door from the inside. I heard him do it. Yes I can just a second and I'll get it off if I can but reaching go invest. I'm with you. Well now that Filo Vance Inspector Markham are in the room wonder what they will find their what to find that out in just a few minutes. You're listening to Filo Vance starring Jackson back as it was broadcast seventy years ago. March twenty eighth nineteen fifty. I'm Wyatt Cocks. Thank you for tuning into this Saturday edition of Classic Radio Theater. And we'll have the news of this date seventy years ago coming up in four minutes right here on your favorite radio station. 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Who is using our State Department as he wills he said homosexuals and subversive agents have been put in the State Department because Russia wants them there. He's asked the Senate. How did Stalin manage it? Stalin is no superman. Stalin had helped unless and until we find that master spy. We cannot hope to deal with stolen on an equal basis making no attempt to identify the master spy bridges real questions about State Department operations and demanded that a Senate Investigating Committee Call Secretary State Dean Aitchison to answer them. Secretary of Defense Johnson declared yesterday. The nation's defenses are adequate despite general. Eisenhower's warning they are below the safety point. Johnson made the statement after two and a half hour conference with President Truman in his vacation. White House at the naval base here near Key West. The president himself in a brief statement announced that Philip C Jessup headman persuaded to remain as ambassador at large. Jessop had been under fire from Senator McCarthy Republican of Wisconsin in the senators drive against alleged communists in the State Department. Eisenhower as President of Columbia University has agreed to extend Jessica leave of absence from the university to permit him to continue his role as the state. Department's chief troubleshooter Senator Edwin C Johnson the Democrat of Colorado yesterday denounced Roberto Rossellini Italian motion. Picture director. As a former Nazi collaborator. A black market operator and a notorious cocaine addict Johnson took to the Senate floor. Looses latest blast against Rossellini who directed Hollywood film actress? Ingrid Bergman's in the motion picture Stromboli now being shown in this country French Dr. Jean Guard claimed. Yesterday he has cured. Toll People drunkenness. With a new secret serum he believes he can pump cure thousands more meanwhile published reports on a conference on a C. T. H. sponsored by armor and company say that hormones which have been given such romantic relief in cases of toyed arthritis has also proved effective in treating delirium trims or DT's of alcoholism wrought relief in some cases of asthma and other allergies and was of some help in treating virus and bacterial pneumonia. Alwin Methodist Bishop Ivan. Lee Whole Sixty four Saint Louis officiated last month at the wedding of vice president and Mrs Album Barkley. He must have learned the lesson. That marriage isn't just for the young yesterday. He and Mrs Hugh carithers fifty six of Winder Georgia a leading club woman and Church worker were married. In Greenwich Connecticut Returns Tabulated thus far in the Yugoslavian elections gave Marshall. Tito's party more than ninety five percent of the total vote. Two Yugoslavs voted in a parliamentary election punctuated by gunfire in Konin form Romania communist-led dockworkers walked out of every French court yesterday except share board in a twenty four hour. Protest Strike Against American military. Aid shipments the state of Iowa yesterday rested its case against Robert bedazzled. By with the appearance of Margaret and Jackson's father Jackson told the jury that his daughter told him she entertained. No serious consideration of loving bedazzled Nick. The defense opened its battle by proven girl died by exit union leaders yesterday accused Chrysler Corporation of hedging on its eighty million dollar pension. Oppor the charge setback hopes for an early settlement of the sixty two day strike. Well it isn't just the taxpayer. Who finds the ides of March? Oh rough time word comes from Marian H Allen Collector of internal revenue. There is in hospital resting after collapsing from overwork and it all began in the line of duty. Policewoman Jeffrey Everett and policewoman. Alex Robinson they were assigned to pose in plainclothes of course as according couple in England's Nottingham Forest last summer as a lure for handbag snatchers. They were married this week and those some of the day's top news stories reported in the newspapers of Tuesday march. Twenty eight one thousand nine hundred fifty on your radio seventy years ago. Filo van switched continues now on Classic Radio Theatre Pitch Black and the light switch by the side by event. Not yet. But I'm looking where is all? I've got that body on the floor on the floor with a knife in its back is that Mr. Hillary is a locked room lockton body from the inside with no windows. This kind of a mystery should be enough for even you come right now. The only thing I can tell you is that it's too much. I'm final. Vance March twenty eight one thousand nine hundred fifty. The conclusion comes up in just three minutes on this Saturday. Edition of Classic Radio Theater on. 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Episode of Final Van Starring Jackson Beck from seventy years ago March. Twenty eight nine thousand nine hundred fifty. This is district attorney Markham. The Aubrey murder case began in Africa but culminated here in the killing of Joe. Hillary knifed to death in a small workshop under impossible conditions. We know the Tom Dunkin Hillary's partner the ivory disappeared in Africa. The Dunkin's wife wasn't too concerned. Hillary Secretary don't we've bought out? The tunnel and African native had threatened France has met misspent outside the warehouse. I imagine you're very fond of your employer and that his death must have come a great shock to very sorry company like this. It's all right Mr van. I don't see the purpose of coming down here to this warehouse. But if you do I won't help you. Mystery of that. Locked room is too fantastic for solution at the moment. Perhaps I can get to the bottom of this case by finding a motive. I believe it to be the ivory that story here. You have the keys here. They are two million dollars in ivory might provide an excellent reason for killing your employer. I suppose that so van says a light on in here. This shouldn't be a light on. Somebody's been here. Somebody is here just knocked. Something over sounded like it came from that direction. Fans look at figure just going out the window stopping. You'll stop. Stop shoot fans quickly. Did you hit him? He was just getting out the window and I'm not sure I'm afraid has once you start notified. The police man. Well we won't find him too much of a jump on us that is if it was a man who was a man of course it was a man we saw him over the window ledge was wearing a turban you saw that turban. That was Tondo Vance. The native I told you about case. It shouldn't be difficult to pick him up. No I guess not however might have been a woman who wore that urban war one just like that when it came to Mr Hillary's Office. All the more reason why somebody else might have one when they came down here a quiet awhile dance thinking definitely while we're on route to Mrs Dunkin's House I can think of nothing better to do than try and figure out the mystery of the luck workshop where Hillary was killed. You go right ahead. I want to bet you're glad I'm going with you in as much as we're going to see Mrs. Tonkin. Very Glad Markham in fiction. There are several ways people have been killed in locked rooms certainly the most commonplace. When of course is where a thin pair of pliers used to turn the key from the outside. Then there's the business trapdoors false windows and saw only none of them apply to this particular door situation. Wait a minute I think I have an idea. What is it this is going to be in your territory? Little but listen. Let's suppose that the knife was attached to one of the springs that were in that workshop. It was an iron pipe. Let's say so that it would be pointed in the right direction on well. A wire held a spring back. The wire was brought around the floor and placed in a position where when Hillary nausea or kicked. It tripped over it. It would let the spring snap and hurl the knife into Hillary's back. It could have been done that way. You mean because of all the wire and springs lying around the room would be something. Hillary wouldn't have seen it's possible. It's the only possible explanation might have happened that way. I'll let you know after we see Mrs Sunken Good. Rather like myself. But I'd theory. The affection is not misplaced. What I want to know right now is whether Mrs Duncan Turpin Goddess. Shot at by me down at the warehouse and if she did out my friend so we'll she. I'm fairly certainly cases coming to a very successful conclusion. Markham we know how the murder was committed. All we have to do is find out who did it. I never agreed that we did know how the murder was committed. All I said was your theory was possible was his Dunkin. Well vans and Markham. What did you bring him for? Protection perhaps may week. I mean why well for one thing. So we'RE GONNA ask you why it is that your arm bandaged sprained it and you see you can ask that just as well. When you're standing outside expected I can tell you that it's giving me so many romances. What could he expect? I'm sorry I again invite you gentlemen unless of course. This is a very visual visit. In which case I have no alternative official but we have no warrant. If that's what you mean. Your arm interests me very much. Mrs Dunkin Good Day Gentlemen. Please call me anything else I can do for you. Don't don't don't I'm coming. Tondo and I'll have that arm of your slick step in no time. Bullet wounds can be very dangerous. Fix were thought. Remember DISOWN WEBSITES. All right though. It's the least I can do for you after all you try to do for me long. Hello District Attorney. Markham has been. Have you found out anything yet? I think we have. What is it would be convenient for you to be Mr Hillary's home this afternoon. Yes I imagine so of cool I thought Oh vents thinks there will be some people there you want to meet for that matter so why. I think we can prove how your employer was killed. And who killed him? Pretty good reason. Don't you think Eli Manning? Right under that Benadryl hold and after you put your coat on nobody will notice it. Don't come thank you now. I must go back and get well. There's really no hurry about that. Is There Dondo? I I mean you can wait awhile. Cantu Dondo much spring ivory back to own country is risen tunnel. Compu- on those sorry. He caused many people. Monitorable should be. That's right while Markham it. I talking to you a little while ago. I took the liberty of snapping. The lock on your door so I could come back. You want him here undertaker here Don. That would be a man sized job even if we had two good arms town. Del No no. Just sit there till we hear what than's has to say it is very much. I just want both of you to come down to Joe. Hillary's workshop in the basement of his house at four o'clock you see we've figured out at least Mr Markham has figured out how the murder was accomplished. We want you there. I S Come Down Duncan I think we can prove who killed Hillary. So it's practically imperative you to be. There were polling side vents. That's good secretary of Benton Mrs Dunkin and Condo standing right inside the workshop. Dog Good is what we test your theory Malcolm. I think the test scene you do it. You've set up a knife inside an iron pipe and held it back with a sprint. And you stretch to wire that held US bring back over to the spot where we found. Hillary's body. That's right you and I know that's how Hillary was killed and one other person knows that the murderer presumably we'll ask each one of them to walk over to the spot where the wires stretched after informing them. All at the room is exactly the way it was when Hillary was murdered. The woman refuses to walk over that spot. Let's trip the wire and release. The knife must be the murderer. Well come on mark you'll see my apologies to you all. May I have your attention back all entitled to know why you're here? There was a murder committed in this room. A murder committed presumably behind a locked and barred door all right Malcolm takeover this alison everyone. We've figured out how that murder was accomplished. And we've arranged this room just as it was when Joe. Hillary came down here the day of his death. What do you mean you rage Israel? We believe Hillary walked into a death trap trap that involved a spring a knife and A. We've found Hillary in that corner over there Dunkin. Yes please walk over toy that Corna. Now Mr Markham please and get myself killed. I'm too attractive to die. Remember get yourself somebody else. Tondo you walk over there northbound on your walk over there like we still review your theory. Markham that makes to have. It is a little confusing. Isn't it Mispending yes Mr Markham. Please walk over to that spot in the corner. Well I go stop longer by your reasoning. This murder was done by. Mrs Duncan and Tando exactly. They worked in collaboration. Mrs Duncan Wanted Hillary Dead. Because he wouldn't give her a share in the ivory after killing her husband. Tondo helped her because she promised to help him get the ivory back to Africa. Your reason for believing the two of them committed the murder was because neither would walk to a spot where they thought they might be killed just as Hillary was killed. Yes only Miss. Benton refuse to walk over there in that case. Markham my word for it. You can arrest Miss Bantam for murder. Why should I have killed him? What was I supposed to kick me all? Its promise me things that I would outdone. Did you ever noaman's wrong as high was backing Hillary House or get it my friend. Your theory was excellent. Really it was. Well it's the murder might have been done the way you said it wasn't and that doesn't make me feel any better. How was it done? First of all let me tell you why. I didn't think it was done your way. It took too much for granted. In order for your idea to work. Hillary would have had to be in one particular spot in that room. Well suppose he never went to that spot. In that case he'd still be alive only he'd have found the wire and of known planet. Oh No Markham. The murderer wouldn't have taken my chance. Apparently not but tell me why did Tondo? And Mrs Duncan refused to walk toward that spot. Why shouldn't they refuse you announced you? Were going to make them do just what Hillary did when he was killed. Isn't that enough to make any normal person reviews? Yes yes it is and Donna. Benton knowing exactly how she killed. Hillary would have no compunction about walking into any connor. That's right like how the murder was committed. I most certainly would. Hillary was alive but unconscious when we started with the acts on his door. Miss Betty's confession will tell how she drugged him before he went down. I'm sure that if you say so. All Right Hillary is alive. Broke down the then. What then Miss. Benton ran over to where his body was plunged tonight into it. Why you and I will fumbling for the lights switch. She saw the body. And the DOC yes. You could see the outline. That was all she needed. Imagine if we hadn't gotten their sheet of call the police would have done a little knife trick when they broke down the door. All I can say his thanks man spanks for figuring this out. I have to admit I imagine you would from the very beginning. All I can say is that I'm glad we're at the end of the ivory murder case. I got there you have it march. 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These are stories of the future adventures in which you'll live in a million could years on a thousand maybe world the National Broadcasting Company in cooperation with Galaxy Science Fiction magazine presents minus one. Tonight's story a pail of air by Fritz libraries. It was pretty quiet in the next power just sitting by the fire staring into it like he does. These days mall was asleep. That's why I was so quite more has some pretty bad times. When she just screams screams and huddles back against the blankets that line. The Nest was looking at herself in the mirror that hangs next to the bookshelf. I don't know what she finds to look at so long. Then she's a girl. She just looks at herself. Saturdays when pop puts a couple of extra lumps of coal on the fire. And we take back. She looks at herself in the mirror and sometimes she cries. I dropped the book I was reading and I guess that will mark of what. Pick up the book but I'm sorry. Par COME BACK HASN'T IT? Alfred. It's come back. It was just but he dropped his book but he's come back out there now. I feel a lot warmer F- Each except their guy just the way. It always goes. I know I I had a dream up. I know you met your mother a cup of water. I'm calling my all right. Got To get up. I I know it's there. It'LL BE COOL. Kasese and the spring bulbs and Daffodils daffodils more. Nobody's of their floor and they're very pretty yellow on a tall Green Stalk. I want to go out. I want to take the children out all right now. Here's some water. Come on we'll all go out and you could play in the sun. Sure Ma he drink what in Moscow? It's cold Alfred. You wrap on the pipes and make that super send up some or he. What's a super PLA? It doesn't matter about there. Aren't that anymore. Oh Pa the Pales- running low but you better get into your things and go out and get an extra pale of air. A couple of pails behind the first blankets on. Get into your things that no No Sun No respect no moss. What was it like this Hazardous don't get upset sabotage yellow and so bright. You couldn't look at it burning hot so hot that when you stretched out in it made you feel warm all over tinguely warm until long. Since I've been that room I was warm last year on my birthday. When prop would all that extra call on and then every morning would come out of the e make the cloud of pink and yellow would rise in the ground and then slowly everything would glow warmer warmer and then it would be up there in the Sky China war. I'm almost ready for this. Oh free get musician. Gone nothing I can do Christmas. Okay go ahead take the big Pale and get it full time. There's no sense and taking the trip only half a bucket of air. I spilled it the last time I can go ahead strapped on the helmet where you can be right about how the blankets open too long all right. Fm They're all safe but it'll be right back with another pail of air. So I went through the thirty or so blankets. Pa Hung Up to slow down the air escaping from the nest. Of course. I knew the way I've been going on for air since I was a kid. Still I get a funny crawley feeling. Every time I go out of the nest you've got to go up to the fifth floor which is just above the blanket frozen air you see when the Earth got cold all the water in the air froze. I made a blanket about ten feet thicker so and then down on top of that draft all the crystals of frozen air making another blankets. Sixty or seventy feet. Thick came out of the window us on the fifth floor and started a scoop up the air into my pay. Had it about full when my fingers are getting pretty cold and I saw something. Hey It's a light darn kicked over. The bucket. Can't be a light moving around a window like this can't be mine. Pod sister back in the nest. I'm up here and there can't be anyone else. Everybody Earth is dead except us at an idea must be sometimes the way she sees things there. It was moving around the building across the way I stood there shaking and I almost froze my feet across my helmet so solid on the inside. I couldn't see anything so I hurried up scooped up another bucket of air and headed back for the next fastest. Could buy outside close up by the Fire Huber Pau. I saw something I did mothers quiet. Now don't upset by it. It was a life. Wait till I get this next to the fire. Give me the closest call on. No no the oxygen from this bucket. We'll get the fire up when it begins to melt there Paul. I'm trying to tell you I saw something light of light. I know what stars like. Dobie big steady white light in the sky. This was down here in a building. What is IT APHID? What is nothing nothing as you know? What is this well I? I thought it was a lady a young lady. I mean it like in one of those magazines. I thought I saw it in a window but then all I saw was a light watched it for some time. Long enough work to pacify windows and go to the next floor and it didn't look like straight activity. No Pie know what that looks. Like Order Star refracted through an icicle. Sometimes if you catch it at the right angle honest I never saw anything before. All right I'll go out with you and you show no Alfred. You can't go and leave US along. Not both of us all right. We'll be right back helmet. There's something else well we've known. There was something out there waiting to get it glove. Something that's part of the cold. Hey so wrong. Wants to destroy the GNASHED watching us all this time coming after. And it'll get you and then company don't go Freddie. Please don't go. Everything will be all right. You've come watch the fire. Keep an eye on that air to if it gets too low or doesn't seem to be boiling fast enough. Get another bucket behind the blanket over how take care of it. Pot couldn't even really anybody out there. 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We were in the room with the frozen people a lady sitting looking at the door the man holding his hands over that funny metal thing. Rocco a radiator was like a fire. I guess but seeming place for the coal. We put our helmets so we could talk. Catch your breath sun. Would it be possible for any of the friends and people that come to life down in the basement around the furnace where we go for water? No there did. They were caught too quickly when it happened. We know where the only one that we donald. But there's a feeling again because it's always night. They used to be some of that feeling every night in the old days but the son. Chase it away. Every morning we would know about that. You weren't born with a dark star. Voters away from the Sun. They wouldn't know this. You see the sun. I've seen the sun. It's not big star at the end of the big dipper seen it. It isn't the same concern releasing high Ooh What the city looked like in the old days? But now it's beautiful starlight. Let's see it pretty well. We're up on a hill and a plain slopes down away from us. Some taller buildings push up out of the feathery plane topped by rounded caps of air crystals. Some of them are on a slant because a lot of the buildings were badly twisted by quakes and everything when a dark star police away from the Sun. That's why can't seal up the nest. Airtime the buildings twisted too bad. Besides they keep the chimney open. We touched our helmets together. So we could talk is not where you start son. It isn't there anymore but it feels different. I mean as if there's something out here waiting bud if you see something right that again. Don't tell the others why not well in my sort of nervous these days and Leo her all the feeling of safety we can gather once it was when your sister was born. I was ready to give up and die but there might have kept me trying another time. She kept a viral going vo week all by herself when I was sick. She couldn't do that now not the way she is. But you know that game. We sometimes playing tossing all around. Well known person can hold it only so long. And he's got to talk to someone when it's tossed your way you got to catch it and hold it tight and hope there'll be someone else to talk to and you get tired of being grave how Philip details and get back. What about whatever it is out here? Just have to wait and see. Come on before the habits in your own. It's pretty hard to hide your feelings in the nest. I mean there's just room for the four of the blanket overhead just touches when pasta ends up straight. The floor is covered with thick woolly. Rugs process it inside a much. Bigger Room. Never seen the real walls or ceiling. Well Anyway Paul laughing kit about what I said I as we could tell he took it serious. It was Sunday morning by the clocks. Talk kept all wound up on the shelf so it was time for the story. We all sat around in a circle the way we always do except I noticed. That casually took a hammer from the shelf. Put a decided. I always liked the story. Course this and I know it by heart and now I mean every Sunday since we were kids but every once in a while Pau surprises us by telling it a little different or throwing in some extras. It starts out with the song my used to it but she forgets the word sometimes. Now passing it mostly all view for for spe skies for waves Grey eye per pool mom. Tin Man Just cheese Through to play course words don't mean and I mean the skies are spacious. There aren't any ways around. Grade Plain is covered with a blanket of frozen air in class. And it's part of the story ceremony. Says it reminds me of the old days she to the story. She in the days of my youth. The Sun hung above golden and warm and the Earth was fruitful and multiplied and the fields were green and the day was glorious. The wind blew across. The hilltops and air was free and good to breathe a part of the story. I like best about how it was with a Son. Nice and warm. It's hard to believe Rollo's people living without having to worry about cold air. Never Waking Up sweating screaming because you dream. The fire went out impossible to believe with a good storyteller and he made it seem real and then the dark star came rushing out of space in the beginning. They tried to keep the news from the people but when the floods in the earthquake started the truth came up at first they thought the dark star would hit the sun and then they were afraid it would strike the earth itself. But it didn't. It only came close off tells it like the Sun and the dark star for years like two dogs over a bone. I know what he means because I've seen a picture of a dog and a magazine and then the dark star one carried us off but the sun kept the moon. There were earthquakes and floods process at mountains. Fell Ocean slapped over oceans at a lot of melted water lying around loose hard to imagine process. It was so banking the open question time in the story since asked a question about what girls wore for clothes and I asked Paul how people acted in those days when the earth was twisted and jerked almost part well but I was too busy to notice much a friend of mine. Dr Weisbrod and Kelly the geophysicist Walter's the astronomer. We knew what was going to happen and we were working to fix up. A place at tight. Walls and installation and big supplies of food and bottled air. Place got smashed up in the earthquakes and they were all killed. So I put the nest together at the last minute in the living room of our apartment. It's a four room apartment. He must have seen some of the people like the frozen ones downstairs at that time. But I only thought of one thing your mother and survivor. If I had stopped to think I wouldn't have even tried to make the nest would've seem ridiculous blankets and a coal fire against the cold vacuum of space. I didn't think I survived. I wasn't listening carefully as we know about the building of the nest. I kept thinking about something else that light. A scene outside kept asking myself. What is the frozen people? Were coming to life. What if they were like the liquid? Helium that crawls toward heat when it should be frozen solid. What if something coming from the dark star to get us something making the frozen people move by themselves would fit with what I'd seen young lady's face and the moving light set there and shivered thinking the frozen people with minds from the dark store creeping crawling snuffing their way following the heat to the nest? Over from beyond the blankets. I thought I a tiny noise but conclusion of x minus one a Pail of air coming up in just four minutes. I'm White Cox and you're listening to classic Radio Theater on your favorite station today. Banks are expected to be open and secure. 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The Earth always been a lonely place millions of miles from the next planet. No matter how long the human race might have lived. The End. Would've come some night. Those things don't matter what matters is that life is good as a lovely texture like some rich cloth for other petrels of flour. Crocuses daffodils fires glue. And that's just true for the last man as I still love. Steps kept shuffling closer. Paul was talking. Ma was dreaming. There is closed consists was looking at herself sideways in the mirror and I was the only one who heard the noise noise outside so right then and there I told myself but I was going on as if we had all eternity ahead of us. I'd have children and I teach them all I could. I'd get them to read books. Try to enlarge and seal this. I try to keep everything beautifully alive. I keep alive my feeling of wonder even if the cold and the dark in the distant stars I hear I know what is it. What is it what's going on you've got to tell me I'm scared? Are you but you it. Kinda shuffling coming toward the take care of your mother. So I've take the hammer you take the hatchet. What is it what is it? I don't know listen. It's closer mush. The blanket is moving ready with your ex. Elo. Who's there? There's somebody in their cub. It's alright they're alive alive you Alfred. Fred Hutchinson Dr Alfred. Hutchinson you can take on your elements in here. Yeah we have a we bring it in pails come on. Let's take off the helmet. It's impossible where are you from? We thought we were the only ones Los Alamos nuclear laboratory. Yes that's right. We get power from the reactor using the stockpile of bombs for fuel. Then there are others there are. There are other men her other. Should I put the gist? Yes it's all right you can put it down. You mean you come from another nasty is a little bigger than this. We've got a small airtight city with our locks. We generate our electricity food from hydroponics. Kid Police I can't. I can't believe this it's impossible. You can't maintain an air supply without hermetic sealing. It's impossible no more simple as long as you keep the fire going to melt the air and enough air boiling to keep the fire burning. How did you come here? Why would we keep scouting around for survivors? There are a number of colonies Brookhaven Oak Ridge and hywel in England and the Argonne Laboratory in France. We didn't expect to find anything in this city though. But are detectors picked up a heat trace to attract to down. Alfredo you forgetting your manners. We HAVE COMPANY OF COURSE OF COURSE SIS. Throw a handful of coal on. The fire doesn't matter now in but it bring out another Pale air incredible and you have laboratories and transports. We only have a two seater scout but if we rip out the bulkhead to the storage compartment we can make it all right. We have you back Los Alamos and four hours. What's the matter. I guess we really hadn't thought about it that way. I wouldn't know how to act thing and I have many close. Just doesn't seem right to let this fire go out but eighteen years burning every minute but you can't stay here but after all Ralph Look Dr Hutchinson. We'll go out to the ship and bring back a small power heater. I know this is very sudden and upsetting to you. You need a chance to adjust. We'll be back in a few minutes credible buckets. They didn't think the nest smells so good. I could tell she had wave in. Did you see that and and lipstick? I suppose we have to decide what to do. Pa At lost Los Alamos and those other places. They'll be not the people weren't there. I mean not just your father a brother. That's right I suppose so but somehow I feel a little empty Alfred different now that we know her live. You don't have to feel the responsibility for keeping the human race going. I'd like to see those and laboratories wouldn't you suppose so it won't be easy leaving the nest? I mean just right. And there's only four of us kind of a scary idea big place with a lot of strangers. You'll get over that feeling son. The trouble was the world was that it kept getting smaller and smaller until it ended with just the nest. Now it'll be good to have a real huge world again the way it was in the beginning and so we're going to leave the nest in the morning. By Pas clocks we got the power he now seems funny to be this warm when it isn't Christmas or somebody's birthday but still it's hard for me to realize that this is the last time I'll go out of the nest through all the blankets to get a pail You have just heard x minus one presented by the National Broadcasting Company in cooperation with Galaxy Science Fiction magazine which this month features the Edward M Ludwig story a coffin for Jacob with never a moment arrest the pursuit through space felt like a game of hounds and hares or was it. Follow the leader in Galaxy magazine on your new stand today tonight. 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Glenn is portraying the role of Rochester But we will hear The master recording as it was done at the studio session and broadcast on March. Twenty eight one thousand nine hundred fifty four the Jack Benny Program Jack and the beanstalk the Lucky Strike Program starring Jack. Benny with Mary Livingston Rochester. Devasta- Bob Probably Yours. Truly now ladies and Gentlemen Spring has come to southern California so without further ado. We'd like to show you how a typical gentleman farmers heralding the arrival of spring. The time early afternoon the scene Jack. Many's backyard the farmer Jack. Benny Audie on on on doodle. You alone Bob Bob Oh and auto on auto the no gee this this section. I planted last year. Came Up Nice. Those nice rate rose two stocks a corn one hundred and fifty cabbages three hundred strawberry vines. one measly coffee plan but who knew better get these string beans and I'll set them right next to the tomatoes here. There's one jagged one hundred more to go all Rochester. I watched them come here and give me a hand Rochester. You've been in that swimming pool long enough. Now come on what boss. I'm not through planning the rice. Never mind that I need to hear okay. So worried about the right sorry. I gave them those chopsticks for Christmas. There I am well. You can start with this role here boss. You're planning beans again. Yes why I thought you'd give up on bean's after what happened last year. There were so small. The bugs were picketing them trying to be. Funny Rochester. I'M GONNA plan beans and this year. That'd be the biggest ones in Beverly Hills. Let's get going there. That one's in deep enough. You sort of look. Funny in those overalls and that old Straw hat. I do look like a farmer in this outfit. Don't live with both long white gloves on your look like Hildegard. Well I've got soft lovely hands and I'm going to keep him in that. I think I got some of these plants upside down so I guess they're all right. Dana's almost close to the tomato watcher. I'm almost through missed any. We'll keep at it and Dennis when you're through mowing the lawn. I want you to water it. Okay I'll turn on sprinkling system I haven't got a sprinkling system you have now. What I thought was a snake and shot at full of holes. That was a brand new hose. And I'm going to deduct the price of it from your salary. I was afraid that would happen. You were here boy. Glad I saved the last bullet for myself. Well here goes. Dana's put down that gun telling mother I won't be home for dinner then. Stop being shoot yourself. I'll pay for the whole. I knew a yellow. Never Mind you just get back to work. I'll hold onto the gun. Okay finish the raw string beans. Good our plan. Some celery your plan for stash terrific but Dennis pistachios or nuts okay. Now let's see a Rochester. Look at these mushrooms here. I don't remember planning any mushrooms toadstools boss. There poison no Rochester. Go ahead and taste one. I think they're mushrooms you think. Yeah we'll until you're positive. Attitude is negative. Oh what a baby afraid. Eat a little plan. You Know Rochester. There's an old saying car dies. A thousand deaths. I hero dies but once you ever hear that saying before yes no want to be able to hear it again. All right. Don't eat it. Who Cares. Rochester Garden Looks Lovely Livingston. I see you got the scarecrow. Already this is me and you know it married. You buy that package of cucumber seeds like I asked you to here they are. They were ten cents thanks. Gee just think Mary I'm going to take these little seeds planted in the ground and before you know. It binds will spring up with oodles and noodles. Cucumbers isn't nature wonderful. Yeah and Mary. Half of those cucumbers are GonNa Be Yours to heck with nature. Give me my dime done. You'll be dying. You'll be sorry when the crop comes in. I feel it's going to be a big season. Oh you're some farmer you and you're crazy experiments. They're not so crazy last year. You sprinkle cheese all over the ground and try to raise all gratin potatoes sure I sprinkle cheese. I had an idea. What are you laughing at? Every other Gardner on her had trouble with potato bugs. You had mice all right but I still say. It doesn't hurt to experiment California. Just a place to do you know Mary. I only have a little more to go Mr Verney. Okay you marry. I would laugh if I were you. I might turn out to be another Luther Burbank. Who Burbank Luther Burbank? Oh Yeah the name Glendale after a name Burbank Glendale. Oh I guess I didn't analyze. It certainly did well see later. Always plays conductor when he mows the lawn. What kid let's see? Oh Mary I would just having a little argument with Rochester. Look those things they're mushrooms toadstools. Does it tell us we are will? I'm certainly glad you told me. I almost eight one. You almost eight one. Well I mean I would have eaten one after you did with me. Landlord all right. Forget it better dig up for all the way through Mr Benny good then. Mr Benny's sooners. You Law needs cutting again. You'll be sure to let me know won't you? I certainly will. I appreciate your interest. Well I like to keep the grounds looking nice and tiptop shape. Good good. This is a beautiful place in someday. I might buy it really dentist. Yeah I'll throw you out so fast it'll make your head. Spin Dana's go home already. Okay goodbye already. Goodbye Goodbye Mary. Yes using Kenny. Baker's two older push a lawn mower Jack every time Dennis get your little aggravated you all check they married. Bob Crosby High Bomb Bond Jackal. Mary bad out for the walk today. Well not exactly. I told the boys in the band. Pick me up here in our orchestra bus. Or you're leaving town again. Yeah we've got a one night stand in Chicago a one night. Stand you in the boy going all the way to Chicago for that. We'll the boys just couldn't turn this down Jack. He must be quite an important councils. Say It is dog is going to be a euro. Oh yes yasha hyphen left this morning. Oh Bob I don't mean to be rude but I want to get all these roles planted by six o'clock or why six o'clock as dark is health has to run for the border. Mary stopped making things up. I do all the work myself. She's in your you. Keep quiet and put on a dry shirt bob as long well. That must be the Boy Jack. I better get going. I'll walk around to the front with you. Bob I gotta be running along to say Bob must be nice for the arcus. They have their own bus to travel around in. Yes a nice bus too but Bob. Why is all that smoke? Coming out of the exhaust kerosene always smokes that way kerosene. Why don't you use gasoline? Well we tried that. But you see when the boys smell anything over eighty octane. They run for the Olli. You mean they actually drew gasoline or bag even drinks kerosene no yeah night the boy stick a wiccan his head use them to read by. Baba who he those fumes coming from the bus or awful. Shall I tell the boys to turn off the motor? No just close your windows rather well I gotTA BE GOING. Anyway okay. Bye-bye long have an ice trip. I I'm Mary. What crazy gang. Look at them in the bus there and look at that License Plate Brew To March Twenty Eighth Nineteen Fifty Four Jack Benny on Classic Radio Theatre. Maybe you can relate to this. A lot of people think they're stuck with their health plan. It costs too much or for for whatever reason they just don't like it but great news. You're not stuck with it. There is a choice. It's called Neta share and you could save so much. The typical savings family is five hundred bucks a month major difference maker. This is the affordable alternative to health insurance. And just to give you a little more info about medishare. 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Iveta beginning home. All right I'll have Rochester. Get the car out on jacket such a nice day. I'd rather walk. I'll see you tomorrow. Okay Goodbye Mary. Well I suppose I better get back to work. I've had enough for one day. They got going the house and clean up fresh vegetables. Tomatoes Lettuce strengthens. Hey Mr what you like to buy some nice fresh video all its yield. What the comedian. The Blue Eyes and a green thumb. Now look nobody what these petunias and tulips out here in front. I know what's going on at back yard all right so I raise a few things deed. Look master I haven't made a sale. They why don't you give me a break up by something? Well all right. I'll take a dozen. Oranges doesn't oranges to doesn't pairs. Who doesn't pass and a half a dozen apples and a half. I know what I know everything. What seeds enough your girl and vegetables? Now you're gonNA start with fruits but I won't be on a personal skin and Johnston supply some businessman. He so worried about competition. Why doesn't he buy me out the one laundry did I well? I guess I'll go in and clean up. Just slip into this clean shirt Jack John. Where'd you come from? Oh I came in the back way. I thought you'd be working in the garden. Well I was down but I've had enough for one day. I'll get it boss okay. Mr Ben is residents Dr Stage Screen Radio Television and if the farmers market hasn't got it we have what's that yes he's right here Mr Wilton. It's your wife. Thank you Rochester dare. I'm GonNa Guess we having for dinner tonight. Oh well then. I suggest we have d'oeuvres super. Nice Caesar Salad. I'm for meets. I'd say a couple of chickens. An eight pound roles an chafing dish full of meatball. Yeah got on the door off them. They're goodbye none. Who's your wife having for dinner tonight? Just me the rest cancelled out. Remember what I told you. I should've known Jack Rafts. You'd like them over for dinner all some other time Don. I've been working so much that I want to lie down for a while. I'm kind of tired from all the gardening. I've done Jack. Don't tell me you planted vegetables again this year. Certainly why should I give up? After those awful beings you grew last year. Look so lousy even your garbage disposal through him back at you stop by goodbye. I really am tired Sleepy who we're tired today. I lie down on the SOFA here. That feels good. What's everybody picking on my beings for so last year? They weren't so big issue. They'll be great at new chemical. Fertilizers guaranteed to make anything grow. See I wonder if Nadal probably burn my head we'd lose beans come up. Don't show every money in your real big names funny just a second ago. I was inside. What am I doing out here on the garden? Say Look what happened to my beans. The beanstalk goes way up to the sky through the cloud. I can't even see the top of it. Well I'm GONNA climb to the top. I'm going to be like Jack and the beanstalk. 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And the beanstalk folks. I always dream about her. Well I better go see the giant where he lives. I'll ask that rabbit. Excuse me Mr Rabbit. What's up? I'm looking for the giants house. You know where he lives around the corner dot. Thank you for being so nice and want to send you a big bunch of carrots. No tanks. I'm on a diet. I was getting so fan I move. No kidding yeah. I wasn't happy because I was too. Hippy happy Peak staring at me like that. Oh I didn't mean to be rude Mr Rabbit but you remind me an awful lot of a friend of mine Frank Ramle Rabbit. No but he's got. Pink is too but his nose stay. Stay on his head twitches. Well I gotta go to the Giants House. Benny so long. Bunny off to see the giant. Now here's the giants house. Got a knock on the door. She looked at the giants laundry hanging out there on the line. Gosh she has the biggest underwear I ever saw the VN BVD looks like a Cadillac. Hear someone coming to open the door. Come in I'd like to wait a minute Mary. What are you doing here giants wife just because I kissed your the giants wide big giant to seventy feet tall. She got to see him anyway. Is He home. Yes but I wouldn't try and see him today. He's in a terrible mood. He's very upset why what happened. Somebody stole his elevator shoes. He isn't a bad mood. I got to see him all right alcohol. There's someone here to say. Pope say. Here he comes now say. Are you the giant? I'm a big win on. Look I want to discuss some business with you where you'll have to discuss it with my managers? Oh well who's your manager and he won't answer me Mary besides being his wife. Are you as manager to now? Then tell me. Who is the giants manager to Roach? Don't bother me. I have to feed my chicken that lays the golden. Today you have chicken that lays golden sure is that when the two fee ticky illegal today imagine that a chicken that lays golden eggs. What do you call it Barbara Hutton? Now you said you wanted to see me about business. What is your cash on? Everything else is on top of a beanstalk isn't it? Beanstalk is growing in my garden. So everything here belongs to me. No it does yes. It doesn't person I'm GonNa take this wonderful chicken the one that lays the golden chick there. I've come on down. Take it back to my house. I'm putting happy off the edge. Falling Winston. Give me some help. I'm falling. I'll be killed. I'LL BE KILLED UP WACO. Oh to Rochester. Gosh what a dream I was having Rochester. I Dreamt I had. I had a chicken that laid golden eggs. We'll stop squeezing that pillow. All you're getting out of it as feathers watch us fix me something to eat. That climbing gave me an appetite. What is silly episode March Twenty Eighth Nineteen Fifty Four Jack? Benny on Classic Radio Theater. Our prime responsibility is protecting our families. But we also need to protect our family's assets for years. I've studied economics in the Bible and as a financial professional. I'm Dr Tom Barrett. 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Call eight five five fifteen liberty eight five five fifty liberty or go to libertyhealthshare dot org slash Wayne root libertyhealthshare dot org slash Wayne root now on classic Radio Theater Part. Three of the five part yours. Truly Johnny Ballard Amar matter. This was originally broadcast March. Twenty eight nine thousand nine hundred fifty six from Hollywood. It's time now for Johnny Johnny. This is Bonny. Yes come out here to the house right away. Something wrong johnny. You said you came back to South. Bend well because you didn't want me to have to be alone to face the death of my father yesterday right Johnny. He'll also said you have business here is it. Is it connected with my father's death money please? Don't lie to me. He was insured for over a million dollars. Or do you know that. What's this business of yours connected with? Addie was it because you think he was murdered. Johnny I'll come on and see you tonight. And every Weekday Night Bob Bailey and the transcribed adventures of the man with the action packed. Expense Account America's fabulous freelance insurance investigator. Yours truly Johnny Dollar Expense accounts submitted by special investigator. Johnny dollar to the Home Office Universal Adjustment Bureau Hartford Connecticut assignment. The Lamar matter the question was it murder. Beautiful girl plenty. Lamar the beautiful romance. I found during my so called vacation in California. Well things really got into a bind when she received news that her foster father back in South Bend Indiana had suddenly died and I received word that I was assigned at a case. Not only because of the million and a half policy on the Mars life because it looked as though it might be nothing more or less than murder from Ohio. California South Bend. Indiana was only a quick flight by plane and the first person I contacted was Lawrence Comstock. Try Mutual Chicago. Office would issue the policies on Mars Life. Johnny the only tune real friends. Thomas Lamar had these past few years since his wife died. Dr Ed Wilson and myself and Wilson is the man you call in when Lamar die. She tylenol used to spend a lot of time together weekend. Golf belonged the same clubs. That sort of thing. I mean he used to love playing two handed Pinochle together. I was with him at his house the night he died and so unexpectedly. Johnny as I told you he'd had most thorough physical examination only a few months before or never permitted him to increase his insurance to a million and a half must've cost him offensive. Premium it did. It did prohibited but that was the way wanted it for his adopted daughter for. Vanni whom you know and if you're a half a man having spent a few days with La Hoya urine low shot up and tell me what you know. You said murder yes. I'm sorry. Johnny began last weekend as I often do. I spent the weekend with Tom. Thomas Lamar or Friday night. Dr Ed Wilson was Willis. We played three handed Pinochle yes. Tom was in perfect health. I know he was an IRA. Evening was all fun completely uninterrupted. Except a young person Marcin. Tom's confidential secretary. And he's the one Larry. You are the one who told Pat mccracken back in Hartford that you thought Thomas. Lamar was murdered. That's why you wanted me to come on out here to investigate the case. Yes I not. Tell me the truth. Is it because of your great friendship for Lamar because of the million and a half policy through your company because you really think he was murdered. Are you here? Because of the commission you can earn on a case as big as this because Thomas happened to be the father of Vanni Limo. I was ordered on this case from Hartford. Oh yes because okay all right now. Maybe I'm silly old funny Daddy. Maybe I'm more worked up over this case than you are whatever the but let me tell you this thing in my own. Come on. But we know Ed Wilson and I because of being so close to Tom. Lamar along Ed. Because of his medical knowledge we know the Tom was in perfect. Health is fifty nine years when nothing for a specimen like him. It left Friday night. I stayed on Saturday. Replayed nine hundred golf. Tom Wanted to play eighteen. But I didn't feel up to it and that night we played pea knuckle just the tools and we got to bed early Sunday. We just sat around and talked until evening when we played cards again. There was no stranger johnny even if the man had a bad heart or something I understand. Now what about this Marcin you name? We quit shortly before midnight. I was tired my years. No done and I knew Tom have a hard day plan on Monday so I suggested we get to bed. He smiled as only. Tom Could smile a warm tolerant yet at the same time understanding and friendly completely friendly smile on and he said he'd probably have to take one of Ed Wilson's sleeping Perros does off so early. But I knew Johnny you want sugar pills. That's all edit ever given sugar pills. I think Tom knew it too. Well I went up to my room Tom. To here's I heard the water running his bathroom about the same time. I was brushing my teeth. And then the crash crash. Yes ran out through the whole who is room. He was lying on the floor of the Bat. Broken Tumbler beside he left bodily sugar pill taken one of them he s and he was dead. Hugh you mean you know. I called Ed Wilson. He was there and only minutes. It was he who officially said the Tom was dead had died instantaneously and he was sure it was poison q. Your color of the lips. What do you mean some terrible stimulant to the heart? A very rare drug that only a few researchers would know about even the heart of a young and healthy boy would find the influence of this drug too much too strong. Dr Wilson told you this what is this. I don't know something very rare but he is sure that's what the police say you call them and didn't shed did. They'd never heard of it either the drug but they've sent samples of the sugar pills to Chicago to Washington for analysis. We should hear from them shortly. Where is Dr Ed Wilson? Oh here right you his address. Good thanks all right now. Larry is you told me earlier. There was one man. You thought might be responsible for this. Who Walter Muscles Water? Marcin Walter has been Thomas Lamar's personal private secretary for some years at Walter has been married to Lavar for over a year on. Sorry Johnny because I how you feel about her. Why should that make them? WanNa murder of Thomas will. Tom made a will johnny. That left virtually everything he owned to the cooperation of which he was the head except for his life insurance. Is that why the amount of his insurance was so is also the sole beneficiary of the policy as you know is gone therefore the only way in which anyone else could share in the estate is by being married to all right all right. You've knocked down a couple of dream castles for me and I'm not talking about a family. Fortune I'm talking about a girl it's an I understand. If she loved him enough to marry him GONNA be happy if he shares some of that million and a Half Bucks. Let them share it. He deserves tour. She wants him to. He married her. She married him all right. It isn't as easy as that. What do you mean you forgotten? He wanted to know why. I think Walter Mars and murdered Thomas. Lamar yes yes you see. I happen to know vimy did not love. It just said she married unknown to her foster Holland. What are you getting somewhere somewhere along the line Walter Marcin show? He's got something on Vanni what it was. I don't know but he had a strange power over. Seem very what are you talking? I don't know Johnny from the time Walter. I started working for Thomas Lamar I. I didn't trust him and yet. Tom Seem to have the most implicit faith in him. Walter was a good accountant just handled many times person investments and handling very well to Thomas paid-in very well rewarded him always when he made unusual prophets but Walter. Marcin made it plain from the beginning that he wanted to work his way into Thomas Shoes in the corporation and this Thomas would not have and the reason because Thomas knew that many of the stock deals Walter had made in his half. Were not completely. Shall we say legitimate or legally proper perhaps but not morally so his corporation money instead of his own? Yeah that's buying huge blocks in order to inflate the price and then dumping the stocks at their peak. That sort of thing. I don't know much of the details. That's out of my line. Thomas knew very well that Walter Marcin wherever put into corporation it used the same slick methods for purely personal gain at the expense of the corporation. He'd spent his life building up about this. I was. Thomas is confident is closest thing. All right Larry let me do a little summing up Walter Marcin failed to dig into Lamar's money via the corporation. So he married his daughter to be sure of latching onto the family fortune. And that's it is. It's as simple as that. Therefore your shore this. Marcin poison Lamar. Yes because of the findings of Dr Edwards. Which haven't yet been verified will know and even if you do find proof. Lamar was poisoned. You have no proof that Marson was back of it. No Larry. What if Vanni had something to do with it? Oh no law Yes yes. That's a real possibility heavens down and you can't mean that you you say you know the sure. And I felt for like a ton of bricks. Whether it's simply because sucker for such a charmer just because she charmed so well I don't know but why did she want me? She's already marriage on. What are you getting a million dollars at stake? A million and a half how she could possibly have known. I'd be staying at the locker lawyer California. I don't know but with a million and a half at stake. He could find most anything so she worked on me. Got Me in our society before she needed to and father died according to plan. She knew there'd be no question of settlement of a claim for the insurance because of the way she'd so successfully drawn me into a cozy little news. You're out of your Mama. What are you talking about you old? I Guess John. I've been a confirmed bachelor all my life even before George but I know very well if I'd ever met von Ulama my bachelor days have suddenly in or you're hurt now that you've found out she's married you're hurt and you're angry striking out at anything you can reach any one and I'm sorry don't let it take away your judgment. I'm sorry I didn't mean I read it in. It's all right but now get hold of yourself. You have a job to do not only for me for the company but for yourself. Okay all right. Thanks to both I I. I don't know what I'm GONNA do. 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That things would get well a lot more dumb and much. I mean it's not hard to predict that when the government's involved they like to think that they say that they're doing something to help folks out but really they just dump fire mass and make it worse seems to be there. The way things go so You know true to form. Things have gotten much donor. Oh I would say scary is a better word than dom. Tyrannical is a better word than dumb. Because that's what's happening here me. This is a total police state that we are seeing a pure around us now in the past on free talk live as much more than a decade ago. We had asked questions on the air of people like well. What would make you believe that it is a police state? If you don't think it is now thought it was. You know it had some more than a decade ago after nine eleven you had the Department of Homeland Security that was put into place and unpatriotic act. Usa Of course brought in the TSA was actually doing like what they what they call. The the Viper Team v I would go to like bus stops and harass people and search them and And then of course the internal checkpoints came about as well. So there's all these like really creepy Police state things have been going on for a couple of decades. At least I mean that that ignores what happened in the nineteen nineties as well in Waco of course was just horrifying thing that the federal government pulled the on some some peaceful people. So you know we'd asked that question of well if you don't think it's a police state because some people would say oh. It's not a police state okay. Well what are your criteria right? If this now is not a police state then what would make you say all right. It's a police state right. What are the things that you have to see happen? Apparently internal checkpoints wasn't one of them because we already have those in inside like one hundred miles of the southern and northern border. And that's such a a generous. You know a border one hundred miles. Wow I mean that's a lot it's done so people that live in those areas have to go through those checkpoints every day. If they're going to work there's one on the way to work. And so maybe if you had to go through a checkpoint regularly maybe that would make you think this looks like a police state. Maybe if you had some uniformed man with a gun stopping you as you're trying to go to the grocery store and demanding from you your papers demanding from you to know where you're going from where you're coming and asking you questions. He feels like asking you with that. Make you think that you live in a police state. I I already thinking feel that we do and have for right. I mean maybe even possibly as long as I've been alive I'm I haven't gone back that into history to determine if the criteria that I think meet a police state have applied since I was born but certainly in the last decade for certain I think all of the the check boxes for me have been there that yes you know. We are in a police state. But what we're what we're the you know the top three. You've said that you would ask people. I don't know if they even had answers. I don't remember I don't I guess it's more of a question for people listening right like if you don't think it's a police state. What is it that would make you think? It's a police state if you want to call in about that. You're welcome to but there's of course a whole lot that's been done in just the last few weeks for me. Police state like stop and Frisk Tate. Ago unwarranted. Search and seizure right. They've been to USA right. So the and then of course the real you know overt sort of visual one that I think most people would agree with. I would hope they would would be checkpoints. Checkpoints seems real obvious to me now. Of course you mentioned search and seizure of the war on drugs brought about a major advance in the police staidness around the United States with countless tens of thousands of raids. I think the last numbers I saw were like forty to fifty thousand police raids. Every single year across the United States the Super Majority of which are not for like some crazed lunatic killer hiding out in his home but instead for drug dealers right which again is a completely peaceful act. That has nothing to do with any victims victimless crime. Well and the the part behind all that to of course a civil asset forfeiture sure so within that not only do you have the police action and the raids and all that but then like they're just lib liberals they're just taking your stuff with no you don't have any recourse getting that's gone and we have seen to be fair. We have seen some civil asset forfeiture reform in certain states around the United States and in recent years. So there's been some progress on that at all man but that doesn't mean that it's not a police state The police state has gotten worse in just the last three weeks. Captain Kick Ass. You have a story about how it's expanding now in the state of Florida. We've heard calls from people to shut down state borders like. I've heard people in the in New Hampshire which is where we are calling to shut down the border of Massachusetts to stop people from coming in here from that particular state. I don't know if that's just because they don't like the mass holes or they don't want the Those people coming in buying things from the grocery store that no I think it had to do with Massachusetts closing liquor stores. Now now I essential service. Well I thought that there was something about that. Marijuana Stores Apparel. Maybe that they're not closing him in Seattle. Apparently that's good. The marijuana stories apparently are essential services. I mean I don't agree with that but Yeah I think everybody's business is essential to their lifestyle essential to their ability to provide for their their loved ones. I mean you should be able to self medicate to marijuana. Obviously has some medicinal qualities. It's been used that way far longer than the legal system has been around and so to prevent people from using it. I think it's dumb but this particular article sort of hides the doesn't really hide but it's an afterthought almost so the headline reads governor Desanta Suspends Vacation Rentals in Florida Comma orders checkpoints on roads. And I read that. And that's what I said I said. Oh my gosh checkpoints. Are you serious this? Is You know it's taken a step too far? Well that's really interesting. Because I had a story from this week. It was published just four days ago at politico dot com about this to Santa Sky. The governor they're making it sound like he was against all shuttering the economy down or whatever they say. He's grown more defiant on Monday. Instead of buckling to political pressure to issue a shelter in place order. He said he would restrict visitors coming into the state from corona virus hot spots including New York and then he's ignoring pleas from Florida. Democrats to be more aggressive so this is a hit piece against disentis. That's all about how he's not doing enough. Now you're saying four days later he's ordering checkpoints. Yeah this is from W. CJ be- dot Com Tallahassee. Florida from W. T. X. L. is where this is being reported from on this website. governor onto Santa's is ordering that checkpoints be installed along Florida's roads to account for traveling drivers and has also suspended all new vacation. Rentals in Florida for the next fourteen days. Disentis made the announcement during a press conference on Friday for the next fourteen days new vacation. Rentals will not be permitted. Those already here can finish their trip. According to the centers but are encouraged to go home as soon as possible. Disentis also ordered that checkpoints installed along the state's major roads that come into Florida particularly the panhandle from the Gulf coast including I ten. These check points do not apply to commercial driver's. Apparently so interesting I guess they're letting truckers through or well now. 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Everyone apparently coming into the state of Florida. Which is interesting because I heard that I think it was the New Hampshire. Governor Sununu made a statement recently that no governor is allowed to closed their state borders and then two days later. You've got oh well. They're not closed. Our borders aren't closed. We just put checkpoints at them. I mean I know that if we don't want you but they're not closed. I know that you've been around long enough to know that it doesn't follow any rules. They do what they wanted. Just do whatever they want and under a so-called state of emergency it basically wipes out any kind of like constitutional protections or at least. That's what they want you to believe now. Of course in theory the constitution supposed to be the supreme law of the land. But I mean I have news for with that for probably some of our listeners. There your rights don't end just because there's a virus yeah period. 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Just shine right staters. I graded to New Hampshire. Who are Libertarians voluntaristic? Maybe Liberty Loving anarchists They've been migrating here for the last roughly fifteen years. So what about them? It's an opportunity for us to shine. The you know gaining after forgotten. Men is what we're here for and I can't think of a better time to do it than than a time when it's being discouraged so I Did a demonstration today and may have been an act of civil disobedience. I you know went to the nearest intersection. Basically and and held a science and this was such a considered such a bizarre act that the media showed up really. Just what just one guy with a kind of boring sign you know and It was it was the team sentinel. I didn't get any. I mean I've had previous life. I Guess Kingston was actually the third media outlet covered it. The sign say you just said don't they don't give up your right to protest N. H. Exit Dot Com and exit. Being the idea of New Hampshire seceding from the United States and I wonder if people would be more or less susceptible to a message of secession. During this time about I guess Did the museum there or do you sent out a press release about this. I news release and To to outlets covered it before it happened and then the meat in Bengal tiger for but the the goal here what I WANNA do. I WANNA inspire everyone in the hampshires. Who can safely do so. Go to an intersection with this sign. You know. I mean if if they're telling us that we shouldn't then that's exactly what we should as long as as long as it's harmless. No I'm with you like the time for civil disobedience the time to say no is definitely upon us. There's a there's a faction of people in the world right now. Who want to tell you things like now is not the time to do civil libertarians. Who are saying now is not the time well. They're wrong because any time. The State is infringing upon your rights is the time time. But they'll think you're a bad person because you're going outside of your house. I've never really had put people in danger. Never really cared what my neighbors think about me. Perhaps I'm smoking long up. It's not the time to do irresponsible stuff. You're endangering others in some way and that's not good but generally endanger others. I would say there's never a good time to endanger others. That does not go. Well you're not going to bring anybody on board if your housing danger To people but some people believe that the act of simply leaving your home is endangering others and even though there's no actual evidence for that because if I'm out and you can kick ass. You were out with me last night. We had a group gathering in central square. Here in downtown keene. We had nine people show up so we weren't able to reach eleven. Which would have made it. An extra civilly. Disobedient event but there is a so-called. Stay at home order in place in New Hampshire. Now there are some carve outs on that particular order but regardless we went out and we had a good time but there are some people who are being very nasty. Apparently about this Aria Who's one of our CO hosts was out with US last night? Posted a few photos from social media of some so-called Libertarians who are railing against this Other people commenters on the free keen DOT COM blog. Basically calling for our deaths because we could be somehow putting people in jeopardy and I just don't understand the the mentality there. If you want to stay home stay home. Stay home if you're at home. I'm not putting you in jeopardy right. Well know I I think it might have been. I don't know I mean. I hope that you stay at six feet apart. Better if you're not in you know exposing anyone anything There may been a better way to do this but the thing I always like to say. Oh I guess I said this last night but that the it's like the Yougoslavia nineteen forty phenomenon. Where the Yugo army decided it was going to try to defend. Every single border against Hitler It was impossible to do when they should've just taken the army straight Bosnia which was defendable right and for us. You know we don't have to. We don't have to civil do civil disobedience on every issue or every new order we can do it without endangering anyone without being within three feet of anyone. There's plenty of things are telling US people saying the twenty. Four feet is the minimum distance. Are you going to start doing that? To thanks for the call tonight. Dave I appreciate it. The toll free number here is eight. Fifty five four fifty free. That's eight five five four five zero three seven three three. You can take control of the airwaves. You can bring up whatever you want and we got more on these checkpoints that apparently coming to the state of Florida. Not sure how soon maybe tomorrow maybe already. It's free talk. Live remember when you first heard about bitcoin. 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