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What is the Oak Ridge Institute for Science and Education?

Further Together the ORAU Podcast

25:05 min | 1 year ago

What is the Oak Ridge Institute for Science and Education?

"You're listening to further together the O. Ara you podcast join your hosts Michael Jinnah as they discuss all things or a you through interviews with our experts to provide innovative scientific in technical solutions for our customers amherst. They'll talk about our you storied history our impacting in ever changing world and our commitment our community welcome to further together the O. R. A.. You podcast <music> Good Morning. Welcome to this edition of the further together podcast. I'm Michael Halsey here in the Communications Marketing Department or are you with my colleague and Co host Geno Good Morning. How's it going? It's going if actually get it's early. It's good and I'm excited about today's episode to there's an exciting episode. We have the wonderful luminous Vosper Director of arise here her and Jim Good Morning. Welcome good morning. This is awesome. Thanks for inviting me grab you absolutely so. Jim Does a little bit little bit about you. Who is Jim Bosberg okay? It's a loaded question. It's just a blue-collar kid from western New York. Basically Grope in New York went into the air force and took off of my career from there so if you want to talk through that or not sure Vanderbilt Lanier don here so I don't know how we feel about that. Ah Yeah it's tough to Vanderbilt Fan in east Tennessee. That's for sure anyway I got eventually but <hes> kind of walk you through my career process director here. We'll talk about the program a little bit but <hes> it was a little disjointed. My career started out in law enforcement really yep police officer in the Air Force initially ran out of high school and after that got out and became deputy sheriff in upstate New York and then Deputy Sheriff and Albuquerque New Mexico most people don't then I got smart. I realized people trying to hurt me. The better go get an education and do something different so <hes> honestly I I ended up with the federal government with the Department of Energy. I started my Kerr's federal agent of the Department of Energy dealing nuclear security transportation big program and doing most people don't know about <hes> so it was mostly law enforcement until the point where I transitioned with Dealey over to it training <hes> type process and education where I was training federal agents so they got me into the education. Mary went back to school G._I.. Bill got my Undergrad degree in education got an N._B._A.. After that and then you mentioned vanderbilt you ended up getting accepted Andy's doctoral program and finish that up in the league ninety so I ended up basically coming back Dobrich from Albuquerque New Mexico where I was working for the Oscar transportation I came back here and focused more on the federal side on safety and health and environmental momentum programs right up the street at the Federal Buildings <hes> so the people that we were for hearing Oakridge on the side most of those were co workers mine and <hes> people. I have a lot of respect for so <hes> honestly I had no no intention of <hes> stand in this kind of business bows gonNA go work for another law enforcement type company when it retired from the federal government but I got a call from our C._E._o.. Who got a tip from somebody in the company that I might be interested in this job as a director of Oh rise and I'd never met any page before so he flew me out here and he brought me into the conference room and <hes> with all the senior people in their having lunch together? I didn't know any of them so basically it was a job interview relaunch orange with a group with a huge all the big dogs upstairs right now so it was fun you know anti call me later he said I want you to come on this contract for the director position so the only problem is you got three three weeks. Now Fed usually glide path out of retirement right takes a year two years you kinda think about it. I told my bosses I begun in three weeks early. Retiring it came out here took a chance on Andy. He took a chance on me and it turned out great so the we won the arise contract and I can talk a little bit about that as we go on. This job has been fabulous for me. It's been <hes> a combination of everything in my career from you know the science side to the safety and health side to education which is our primary stuff. I can talk about a little bit but what what a what a great job to come to and I have no regrets of course being around. People like US been great so we've we've mentioned the acronym arise what is arise and what have you right so for your listeners arise stands for the Oakridge Institute for Science and education. It's formerly been around since nineteen ninety two <hes> that's when they started arise and there's a long story with that but our company Okra dissociating universities has been doing this work since the forties right after the Manhattan project and because ninety two the Department of Energy saw will or you can't be running the O._R.. You program they set up an institute and that's when arise was born if you will so. It is a what we call an integrated contract. <hes> it's got very unique functions in it that are very unique to the government <hes> into private sector so <hes> the biggest one being workforce development going to a little bit of detail on that but that's all right stands for awesome. Thank you for that in <hes> under the arrest contract we have these five we call him P._W._S.. Areas <hes> performance work statement areas right so talk a little bit about what with those arm and a little bit about what we'd be in those areas so every government agency when they issue contracts identify performance areas and they're called areas as you mentioned Michael we have five and arise one very large performance in then for that aren't quite as large our biggest one is basically stem workforce development <hes> what that means is warren charge basically identifying and recruiting stem talent worldwide not just in the United States the ideas as you guys know. Stem fields are booming right now and there's great competition for anybody. That's in a stem field science technology you know engineering math and we have to convince people to come to our programs versus going to work for Google or Amazon's something like that <hes> but what it is we identify these people in offer them internships if you will I think your listeners would understand that term we call them stem participants but there are people at all different levels of their college program it could be community college could be undergraduate graduate scoring and post doctoral programs so who identify them we place them a national laboratories Diwi national laboratories and they work alongside a mentor if you will like if you have an internship in college you have a boss if you will could be for six months a year two ears and they actually get to work in laboratories doing research so it's an education and training program as it's very unique and the ideas to make our nation competitive <hes> with the rest of the world and there's about ten thousand interns on our program right now nationwide <hes> two huge number as a hugely and they get a glimpse. They're working on you said research and it's real world research. It's researched that's going to be used to Oh you know help our nation and so it's Kinda gives them a glimpse into you know what what could be a possible future also meeting mentors and making those connections yes and it's it's really exciting. It's a very cool way to Kinda glimpse that future career path and in what might be possible it is I mean that was well said Jenna basically gives them an opportunity to experiment with areas areas in might be in fossil fuels might be in alternative energy out at <hes> one of our facilities in Denver <hes> but it allows them a chance to actually get hands on training we all I went through college and you sit in class and you learn the book stuff but you don't get a chance to actually go into a national laboratory work with a P._H._d.. Mentor and that's why this program is so unique it gives them a chance to <hes> test us and for us to test Islam and see if there's a match and off from jobs so very unique it's the only program or as the only program with a soul mission of <hes> stem education and training so that's our biggest area <hes> and that's the focus deal. He has primarily on this contract and obviously it's a lot of attention from the political point in the politicians all the way up the secretary of Energy knows about our program to pressure yeah. He's a great guy made everybody we've dealt with from him to the deputy secretary and all that just been phenomenally supportive of this program so it's been it's been fun being able to pitch it. Yeah <hes> Brag about a few will absolutely especially since it's one of the kind I mean it is very very unique or unique <hes> but it is it is a competition if you will. We're competing with people that are gonNA pay these kids. I'M GONNA call them probably more money. We're GONNA GO Amazon and high tech companies but this allows them to go into different areas into work without P._H._d.. Type Person I mean think about that. When you're in college the best you get as you Mike Internship in an office and you're making copies for somebody right so you can claim it on your resume but this is actually you're doing world changing experiments and there are multiple students participants if you will that have gone on through the arise program and then actually stayed they were a good fit like you said and and they stayed with their mentor and actually were given jobs full-time jobs out there completing research so yes that's really important point because would <hes> what the secretary and the people below hammer asking us to do as to show the value of the program so our program right now is looking at doing evaluation longitudinal studies on those people? You're talking about Jenna. Are they staying at these laboratories. Are they staying in stem fields or are they going and doing something else if not are they going to stem career in the private sector it doesn't matter the idea is to make sure nations competitive <hes> in the technology areas but we're we're working very hard track where these people are ending up and <hes> showing each one of the facilities value the program and ironically a lot of for instance one of the facilities in West Virginian in Pittsburgh <hes> they have about sixty five percent retention rate for their participants these interns that's really hot and. And they liked that they want him stain there and there's other national labs that want these individuals to come in work in their labs and they purposely want them to go elsewhere just so they can expand their <hes> horizons work in fossil fuels rules or other areas may be the weapons programs so it's different philosophies at each one d national laboratories <hes> but they looked as kind of the sole provider for these individuals and we we recruit them from all the the high end universities adversities and from international universities that are pretty well known also so it's a great program just sort of to follow on the retention base. I know some of our longitudinal studies show that whether they stay with the national lab that they started working in the the research facility they started working in upwards of ninety six percent in some cases stay in the stem fields in some way shape or form so state they do and we're not talking people like me that had no basic science. These kids are brilliant most as if you go to one what we call the poster sessions they actually present what they've been working on that summer for the past year and it is just phenomenally dominantly impressive how smart these kids are kind of research. They're doing I keep calling him kids. I Guess Twenties Early Thirties but just brilliant and they're really excited what about stem field and what they're doing whether it's an environmental or whether it's in physics and sell on so they do most of them do stand stem areas and we're very pleased to see that they're not bolting for the money they're going to the big tech companies. They want to be engaged and they want to know what they're doing is meaningful making a difference making a difference so that is the key to this generation coming up right now. They have an impact or not <hes> took us. Well allowed to realize that so that's part of our recruiting process showing value the national advertisers will and you talked about poster sessions. I mean they're getting published S- while they're doing research which he wouldn't be dealing if you're making copies you there's an intern somewhere else it's exactly right and that's one of the things they mentioned. They say hey look at my name's on on this research at the end but it's on their it's it's just an exciting program and growing too and because I know you're working on potentially we're we're. We're always working on potentially other business so you know Brian Hoping to bring more people to the party. What one of one of the things deal is asked me to do and the whole program is to to do outreach to other national laboratories so we've really focused on that the last year we've gone to a number of national labs most of them Kinda heard about us or they knew a piece of it? They knew about the stem programs they they didn't know the other four performance areas or they hadn't <hes> thought about the value added to US versus doing in themselves so they had outreach is getting legs right now. We're getting additional interest in the arise program. That's that's what is there for and that's something I report to the D. leadership how the outreach efforts are going and what impacts. It's having so you mentioned that other four P._W._S. areas. Let's cover those briefly sure so one of the other ones is scientific peer review and basically this is <hes> we are the intermediaries between government money and agency that wants to give money for research and people out there that one money to do research say just I can't give it to them. There has to be a formal process through the government that they can show they're doing their due diligence. <hes> to basically determine WHO's worthy of getting the funding so pure views a significantly formal process they bring in experts experts in whatever given area whether it's nuclear engineering or environmental engineering and we actually have a database of about seventeen thousand subject matter experts that we can call upon to do peer reviews now now. Why would somebody do appear review? It isn't for the money you know I think we pay one hundred bucks or something like that but it's what we're finding is for the betterment of their <hes> their field whether it's physics environment and otherwise and plus they get to put it on their curriculum veto data. That's value but <HES> I didn't know how formalize process was until I went through it. I sat down and went through on one time where I was working on. Something called Peer Nets that's the program we used to do the evaluations the S._M._e.. Misuse and then they score them. They'll score all the research middles and then the government makes final decision who gets a funding and the given the funding they mansion after that but we are the independent group what does that for the Department of Energy and other agencies and even for state agencies. <hes> are very good at it <hes> so that's something that's really important of the performance area and this is something that dewey scores. There's very highly on every year when we get our scorecard our report card if you will so scientific peer reviews the second one our third areas extremely unique and it's one of a kind it's <hes> the Radiation Emergency Assistance Program <hes> and training site so what this is it's located here in Oak Ridge <hes> Tennessee and it provides twenty four seven response for any kind of radiation emergency nationwide or worldwide <hes> basically we we have to medical doctors on staff Dr Caroline's who's our director and a former director. That's on call. Also we've got nurses health physicist and experts that can get <hes> on a phone if you will somebody thinks had been exposed supposed to <hes> radiation or other <hes> other exposure and basically help them make determinations or they can actually be activated. They'll be activated somewhere to site. They also worked with other government. State agencies on exercises Radiation Burns the exercises where they go out in the field setup tents and actually do the triage <hes> the really cool thing they do is training classes and they do training classes. This is both heroin Oak Ridge and internationally <hes> to teach <hes> emergency response from medical <hes> radiation exposure <hes> people come from all over the world here when people usually attendance classes great question so it's anywhere from medical people to Emergency Response Personnel Fire Departments <hes> I was I tell the story was on a plane from <hes> Albuquerque to Dallas. I was sitting next to a guy I was talking to he said where are you going. He said well I'm flying to East Tennessee said I'm going to place called Oak Ridge he goes. Do you know where that is so I'm gonNA react place and taking the train clips really I said where are you from and he goes from the United Arab Emirates. He worked for a Ramco I said how did you find about dad. He goes. Oh Bree XS known all the world right now cool. Yeah I said well. I'm Jim Vasbo. Here's my business currently goes okay so we we shared email addresses. I said please email me. Tell me how the class once he did. He said it was just phenomenal. One of the best ever had so that's kind of touch we have in that program not only people internationally coming here but doctrines and her team <hes> go all over the world you know they've been dystopia <hes> they they've been to Russia and <hes> they basically teach classes for people that need mostly military response but <hes> it is such a unique program one of a kind and it's an area. That's really expanding so great. The fourth area is <hes> we call it our health program we keep databases for people who've been exposed to radiation Berlin and other things I mean there's millions of names in their my name's in one of the database because because my former job but that's available for people that are doing research or for politicians they'll call us and say I've got a foia request and <hes> I need some data so we do quick turnaround. Keep those update in their velvet. Anybody in our fifth area is very small very important. It's called independent verification and what does that mean it means they go on verify the cleanup sites <hes> that are former diwi facilities have been cleaned up to be able to be released to the public look for perks or for developments yeah and it's independent in that we don't do any cleanup work we do is to the verifications. There's basically wall between so those are the five performance areas the biggest. One is the first one like oh you had mentioned. That was the whole stem W._d.. Programs very busy very busy no matter how big they were smaller yeah. I always say I wanNA have just one boring day my life yeah I don't know I bet you have one boring day and then you're like giving me the chaos right back probably well that kind of covers everything Jim. Is there anything else that you want to WanNa. Make sure people understand about arise. I think like I would be remiss not pitching our website everywhere because we're we've redone our entire website to anybody listening to this suggest Google arise and it'll pop up <hes> it's been refreshed over last year. Thanks to your team and it's very interactive and it's <hes> the one thing that our customer looks at they're not on social media but they're always saying hand fresh on the website changing things up and then we highlight the stem people were crossing about. We highlight them and things going on in the program. So it's <hes> yeah I would pitch the website our social media yeah so if someone's listening you know there <hes> a student and they're interested in seeing if they fit in one of these W._d.. Programs the website is the place to tell him to go and the website is is nice where you can kind of choose your path. You know we were talking. You've all of these performance areas in so sometimes it's a little confusing about which way I go but the websites great up at the top you can choose self identify who you are and then it Kinda on a funnels you to the correct information so exactly the same thing to be said if you're interested in I._V.. Work <unk> independent verification work visit the website in there's more information in contact info correct correct. I mean you guys designed it very user friendly yeah and it's basically get past all the fluff. Go right to where you need so it's one of those students gender you're talking about. They can just go under workforce development deal pull down. Seaworthy programs are what's open right now. <hes> also <hes> our twitter account facebook account or advertising these programs all the time what's coming open. What's available to them? <hes> so that's the point remember have a shortage of content which is a great and and according waiting to be available twenty four seven so anybody listening can call me email me on the list yeah all right. We'll thank you hear this was great fun hearing more about arise than how grow herbs and program exactly thank you so much. I appreciate your time. Thank you thank you for listening to further together the O. Ara podcast to learn more about any of the topics discussed by experts visit W._W._W..

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Equine Forum - December 21st 2019

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

1:59:31 hr | 8 months ago

Equine Forum - December 21st 2019

"From the rail to your radio this is the horse racing radio network show. I'm it took time. Who's certain sercret petty spent forty proper stands for Jimmy Johns of Lexington Studios Welcome to the equine forum presented by Red Brand Fan? The darnall burn babbling along the inside. We'll test these wire. A Berm non-drowsy left-hand weapons on the outside driving Berman Alley. Our heads apart Robert Burns got an awesome product. Bird closing a lifeguard Rachel Alexandra. She's simply now. Here's Mike Pence a good morning once again. Everyone and welcome to the show that launched inch network the equine forum presented by Red Brand Fence. Right here on the Horse Racing Radio Network Mike Baron on the backstretch in our Jimmy Johns of Lexington Broadcast Studios. Now just one hundred thirty three days seven hours forty seven minutes and thirty four seconds away from the first Saturday in May twenty twenty which I know is welcome news to many of you including those of you here in the Bluegrass who are dealing with some cooler temperatures. Not Too bad ad here this morning. Temperatures kind of hovering in the mid thirty range right now but it has been colder earlier in the week and I know many of you looking forward to not just the first Saturday in May but some things that are going to happen before then including the holiday season and Christmas now just three days away and indeed merry Christmas to everybody through HR and Nation Happy Hanukkah and happy holidays to everyone should be a a wonderful couple of weeks and I hope you get suspended with friends and with family and I hope you enjoy the next two hours as I'm GONNA look at a couple of different storylines you you remember the Breeder's Cup sprint. The Breeder's Cup sprint. A lot of people and myself included saying that it was maybe the race of the Breeders Cup the race. Because you had the big four you had Matali who some people say should be in the horse of the year discussion yet. Catalina cruiser yet three-year-old chance a lot and he had imperial hint. Who is coming out of that huge win in Voss Burg Belmont now? Imperial Hint scratched the morning of the race. Because of a minor foot issue the race didn't lose any lost a little bit of Leicester because he was a horse that figured prominently in there and he was doing really really well. Look the part all week long at Santa Anita but he was scratched very very disappointing for his connections including trainer. Luis Carvajal Junior. Well the Florida bred who was appropriately nicknamed the little rocket returns to the races this afternoon in the grade three Mr Prospector at Gulfstream Park. He's even money on the morning line. And you think OK. Well he's a it's GonNa be a walkover. He's a huge huge favourite. He's a slight favourite at even money on the morning. Line a slight favourite because of the presence of the Gulfstream Loving X. Y.. Jet He seven for fourteen at Gulfstream is X. Y. jet. He's been on the Board and twelve of his fourteen starts over that racetrack. He's a tough out. When he goes to the post at Gulfstream? He'll be making his first start since winning the Dubai Golden Shaheen in March. And that's going to be one heck of a showdown imperial hits even money X.. Y. Jet seventy-five take your pick. They're both really really good. But I'm going to get a chance to visit with Louise Carvalho junior coming up after our first break right around eight fifteen eastern time and I'll talk to him about the disappointment of love being so close to competing in a race like the Breeders Cup of Imperial Hint again and having scratched the morning of the race. And I'll talk to the the highs that he experienced and has experienced with his horse throughout his entire career including that big win in the Vosper and then we'll talk about how he's coming into the MR prospector. Later this afternoon. The Jockey's guild held their annual assembly last week in Las Vegas and there were a variety of topics that were covered many of the top jockeys including hall of Famer John Velazquez and Javier Castellano Joe Bravo. was there. The usual suspects that are there for the guild meeting every single year. They had a chance to sit down and talk with race. Track management about some of the things some of the issues that face riders. Day In and day out at racetracks all across America. And I thought that was an interesting panel. And I'm gonNA talk to Johnny about it one of the things that's been front and center when it comes to the riders over the past. Ten to twelve days is news about states like California and New Jersey moving toward moving toward a no whip rule or or a much much more restrictive whip rule. I'll talk to Johnny about that. Ah I know he's not in favor of it. I'm sure he is in favor of safety. Regulations and I'm sure he's in favor without putting words in his mouth. I'm sure he's in favor of doing things that are in the best interest of the horse but you have to think about the human participants in this situation you have to think about the jockeys. There is a safety issue here as well. That whip is not always used to motivate a horse to run faster. It's a safety tool. And so that's where the the problem comes in when you start talking about making decisions like this and that's where the riders will have a problem. But I'll talk to Johnny Johnny about it and I'll talk to him. Not only about how the jocks field about this. Some of the things that they feel can be done in a compromise. If you will some common ground between race tracks and jockeys on this hot button topic that's coming up at nine o'clock eastern sports wagering as you know has continued to expand and nationwide. And I'm GonNa Talk About Sports wagering a little bit this morning. I'll do that with Kentucky. State Senator Damon Thayer. Who is the Senate floor? Majority leader here in the state. He'll be with me at ten twenty eastern time Damon and other senators part of a bill here in Kentucky that could be approved at the upcoming general session. That begins on January. Seventh that would legalize legalize sports wagering during here in Kentucky. I'm excited for it. I hope it happens but one thing I wanNA talk to Damon about. Damon has always been a champion the horse racing industry here in the state. I want to ask him. The impact. Is there any way that this becomes a negative impact packed to the industry. I don't see it. I think it's a positive they're talking about. Potentially putting these sports wagering facilities in conjunction with racetracks racy knows ray of the Casino there sports wagering facilities would be at the race tracks. I don't see any any downside to that at all. I think it's a very positive thing for the end. For the state. The economic impact to the state is something I want to ask Damon about what's the projection. How much money could this generate for? The State of Kentucky could be huge and I'll ask them about working with the new administration. Now governor this year recently elected and see how that plays into this whole decision legislation but that comes up in the second half of the show stay tuned for that opening day at Santa Anita on Thursday of visit with announcer Frank Mir Ahmadi to preview the meat and look ahead to some of the big races. You're going to see over the course of their winter spring meet And then our stallion spotlight segment. Which is returning here on this Saturday morning Bring you this segment every single week. Through the end into March I'll focus on a different farm in visit with a representative from that farm to talk about their stallions and that segment presented by our friends at red brand fence. Ned Ed toffee is. The general manager spent her farm. He'll be with me going to have that segment coming up in the first half of the show and then our industry star of the week. It's a pretty cool. One to the industry started week presented by Stuart Morris. That's usual Saturday morning staple here on the program. So all of that coming up here Luiz Carvalho junior kicks it off after our first break eight fifteen eastern toffee eight thirty five eastern time with our stallions spotlight segment. You'll hear our industry star of the a week at the end of the first half of the program our two nine eastern kicks off with John Velazquez Damon Thayer with me. 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To imperial in Burundi fire was ranked with them on the wire. Bucket was third in a puddle of water. Eight point three five imperial hit the little rocket getting the victory in the grade. One Vosper he did it by a flared nostril over forensic fire what a great race that was big victory for imperial Hinchey returns later this afternoon in the grade three Mr Prospector. Gulfstream Park. After the disappointment point of having to scratch the morning of the Breeder's Cup sprint at Santa. Anita I know that that was heart wrenching for our next guest. Who is his trainer? Luis Luis Carvajal Junior. And he's with me now here on the Horse Racing Radio Network Louis. Good Morning Mine. Hey how are you. I'm great. How are are you my friend doing great? I can't wait for today's way Yeah you have to be excited to get the big horse back in action. Six years old. He's been so good to you Es so much heart. That you heard Larry Cole Messaien his call the Vosper and now he gets a chance to kind of get back on track after what what happened at Santa Anita Let. Let's start there for a second talk about that. In the disappointment of being so close to the Breeders Cup again one of the favorites in there and all of a sudden he he comes up with an issue the morning of the race. Yeah well you know. I'm trying to leave that behind me. you definitely would discipline it. I really wanted wanted to take another shot up. Champ Mutola but Yeah like I said before you just leaving behind and looking for for the next race as planned for him. Yes a trainer when you experience you know we. We talked about a lot. The highest highs the lowest lows in thoroughbred racing. When you're on a high after winning the Vosper get to Santa Anita? Everything's going great. You're still on a high and then something like that happens. And you're at the bottom of the heap again. I how do you you like. Keep your emotions in check in and stay focused and keep moving forward. Louise how do you do it. You know I I you know that the good thing was I know my records you doing good and and I was going to have chances again to run and then and perform. Well they've been you know it's it's hard but you know when you have at least you had the support for your family behind you and everything. So it's you know we. We think this way way that happen and the Horse got scratch. You know happens for reese and and I always blue so good ways and But yeah what a look seeing being run them there. But you know things happen for a reason and and So we go back and regroup and I work good and a couple of weeks after and and I like what I see and then hopefully when looking for for next year and And and see where he does. I mean right now. It's very happy the way the votes have been twenty minutes and I innocent. Seem like it's slow down at all. So that's that's what he kept me going and let you know I have to shot the born and of course it's a hand say once and but it's still looking forward take my other horses run so you know it is what it is and we'll see what happens today. Yeah I think after having a scratch from Breeders Cup it just made him mad because all he's done is come back and fire bullet workouts for you in every workout. Since the breeders company comes into the Mr Prospector. We're in what looks like. It looks to be great form. How good was his summer Lewis when he wins the vanderbilt he wins the Vosper How good was that summer You can ask for any better For having been taken to such a great in urine you you know and Trying to think he wants something like this to happen and this summer unbelievable to break a wrecker and Saratoga. Despite let's say about how the track explained that day and You know it doesn't happen to anybody too many people just breaking the track record in Saratoga. I guess which he'll get a little more crazy. That have been getting deserved more credit by Vice Fisher about that race. You know But yeah that's a dream. Come true for trainer you know especially when we don't have all the stock too many others they have so that's why we get out there every day in the morning and we try we try and to to get hosts like this one. That's where he keeps everybody else every trying to like it's more stable to to get going forward. You know what I mean. Yeah and you knew he won the AG Vanderbilt. There was no doubt about that. Not only did he set the record but he won by four. The great one vosper is we just heard was a bit more narrow of a margin winning by a just knows just a nostril really and game game heart whatever. Whatever you WANNA use to describe imperial hint? He showed it all in the stretch. Run that day did you know. Did you kind of know that. He got his nose to the wire. I read in doubt a little bit No I you know what I was standing. I was watching the race. You know. It's you know I. It was not sure if one race but when I saw I told you before the race and we know that students fire with the Jason Service. Belmont Park Don. I love that tracking every time you see French. FRY Run Belmont. You see the way he fires all the time we love contract so I told him you know you gotta be careful. We only feed and I think my voice Kinda got a little bit of settle in the front end and when Nice saw him coming back and Si- and and he got a big heart actually. I think he's hard experience than his body. Yeah that's what we call it. The rocket but He has so much heart and translated so great hordes to really nice course and you love them and so I right but I really think that that that raise. I was really happy that he wanted to. Of course what agenda race He said in my really good for the briefs got. I was happy at that. He got to do something because last year in two thousand eighteen when he won the bird he just He wants so easy greer down and I didn't think that to help him that much before they went to the British Cup. And so you know everything there was it was it was just great to feel rates like Fighting to win the race and instead of my good is in like I say it's been great since then we've been training super since then and like I said unfortunately that has to happen Senator because I I really wanted to prove that inferior hin couldn't won the race of the briefs up to Even though the mythology I mean he is a chance I think it's a great course in he'd be really nice course especially in the mouth but I think it would mean a lot to a lot of people and and to to see that the emperor could. I think we could have won that race. Jason Kao it would have been close but I think I would have addition when that race but you know that right. Now I'm just like I said we gonNA leave behind behind us and And look for for this race and and then hopefully we'll have a great twenty twenty and and then we'll definitely probably would looking at the back tire for imperial and it's been great to us who gave him the nickname the little rocket. You know the little rocket I think you came more from last year to eight from Larry Combs and he goes I think he wants you know the I. I think he wanted to call him the rocking men but they started maybe some conflict with the the L. John Since then it's it's been a little rock announced back. You know you mentioned by the way talking with Louis Kara. How junior the trainer owner of imperial hint going to the post in the grade? Three Mr prospector today. You mentioned that you wanted a shot at Matola in the Breeder's cup sprint. And who wouldn't when we have a horse like imperial hint but you get a rematch with a horse who defeated you in Dubai. Three starts ago back in March. And that's x y jet and he's is a much like forensic fire. Was it Belmont. He's a horse. That loves Gulfstream Park Tell me about that rematch. Coming up later this afternoon you know what I watched him. I WANNA ten. I wasn't expecting X. Y. Get running Jorge Navarro or cut me by so price but I think it's I think it will it. I mean it's it's you know you have a couple of their horses have been done with hopes and everything I mean. It's it's it's it's becoming to be a I I know it's a hundred thousand dollar range but I think it's salty very salty feel and But going back to the I I run the ball against him and I didn't think I had the best person station that either and The race then the Bella but the way we wanted to to but I think to me maybe x-ray jet and my horse You know we. We're going to put a good show and I hope like I say you know it's like Car Racing and drivers you know we will always want the best for every horse and and we we But at the end we always wanted to be an definitely WANNA be X. Y.. And I definitely want to everybody else but as horse race. And that's that's why he's so beautiful about this about the sport that it's never a short thing you can be the money and you can see Luther rates wants a gate open when You know every everything can change but I think I have a good shot. You Know X. Y.. Had some of the Golden Shaheen and it might need this raise I don't know if the seven pool will so him and the same we can say about my horse even know that he won overage seven eight but that was long time ago with different kinds of horses so you know. It's just see how they're going to play today. And and but I would definitely would like to see my horse in front of the warrior. Yeah Yeah Imperial Hint three for five at the seven for long distance X Y jet. Oh for three three at that seven furlong distance so I think from that standpoint. The edge goes to imperial hint later this afternoon. Louis before I let you go if everything goes well today. What are the plans moving forward for your six year old star? It'll be surely it'll be seven Donovan and and we're with would we talk at all. Where would Mr mom owned and donor imperial hand and I think we will will be trying to see if we can go to this Saudi Arabia They have a race there. Three quarters or one point five million and hopefully everything goes well that will be the next step and and and then we go from there to begin million x y zero chancellor at the And Dubai also now there. You have it Louis Carvalho Junior has trained more than one hundred winner since launching his career here in the United States one hundred winners here in North America and the native of Chile who grew up. The son of a jockey is On a roll and I know that no horse more special special than imperial Hinton. We'll see if he can get it done later today in the Mr Prospector. Louis really appreciate the visit here this morning. Thank you so much for taking the time and all the the best with the big horse and not just today but moving forward as well thank you guys. Thank you having me of the show here and I appreciate it and All the publicity we get with this little rocketed all the credit risk. Go get it done my friend. Thank you guys Louis Karma how junior just like all of our guests who appear on the program. He is going to get a gift. Courtesy of embraced the race the apparel for the horse racing lifestyle. Remember to wear what you love and shop for the Horse Racing Fan on your list. I at embraced the race. Dot Com great stuff imperial hint man. He is a tough son of a gun so is X.. Swipe jet though but you heard Louis talk about the advantage. He has maybe a little bit of an advantage from recency standpoint. Having run twice one to grade ones while L. X. Y.. Jet Was still idle throughout much of the year. Should be a good one that Mr prospector comes up at four thirty eastern Eastern. At least. That's the post time. Keep in mind. Gulfstream it's going to go a little bit later than that probably closer to I'd say four fiftyish by the time they get that one off if I had to guess but four thirty the eastern is scheduled posted his ten at Gulfstream. This afternoon. Time now for your Lexus. Legends of the TURF brought to you by the Lexus door of Lexington. Every single Saturday. At this it's time and I'm back with your stallion spotlight segment right after this. This lady had a wealth of character a marvelous vibrant personality and she was indeed an inspiration action to others. She was a lady through and through and the Roaring Nineteen Twenty S. While still under twenty she entered the world of racing as the owner of a steeplechaser. A racing stable Brooke meet came into existence. If you years later she was. Ed burst upon Positi and took great delight in needling and openly deflating an obvious inflated ego or infectious sense of humor provided her the tool for doing so especially evident in times of stress perhaps equally as synonymous with Brooke meets stable and its success where the names of precedent Elliott Burch who train her horses Preston began training for our lady of the moment in nineteen forty four and and on October twenty. First of that year he saddle her dear me for her in the Maryland Handicap at Laurel. Dear me whip the redoubtable twilight tear by seven links thinks in that affair and that was birches. First of a long long list of sakes winners he saddled for Brooke Made Birch was very patient with young horses and he and are subject. Nick probably received more thrills from a horse named sailor than any other racing in her colors that was in the decade of the fifties while others racing in her colors included Sword Dancer Bowl of flowers and oligarchy. Her superb flower bowl won the Delaware Handicap in Nineteen fifty-six and on May Second Nineteen fifty-nine Sword Dancer won the Derby for her while on the very same day. Big Effort won the better roses at the old Jamaica Racetrack on Long Island in one thousand nine hundred thirty four our lady of the day as it were became the very first woman and American turf history to lead the winning owners list or bowl. Flowers was voted Philly. Champion of nineteen sixty and sixty sixty one and sword. Dancer was voted horse of the year in Nineteen fifty nine. This marvellous lady dearly loved the thoroughbreds and among the many greats carrying her soak to the winner's circle. She considered her best to have been cavalcade sailor. Sore denser and Bolo flowers but she had a very soft spot for others including Okapi Happy Sunglasses and high quest in one thousand nine hundred thirty four and sixteen years later at one thousand. Nine Hundred Fifty Brooke. Mead was the leading money winning stable in America America from one thousand nine hundred twenty five until her demise in one thousand nine hundred sixty to her horses won one thousand one hundred and forty four races as previously indicated trademark was her love for and the ability to just with her trainers the virtues before big racist she would often break the tension in the paddock. By saying for example quote do you think I should put on the blinkers today or quote. Now you haven't put that saddle on right on. Her Jockey would appear. She could be heard to say quote now Preston and you step back. I'm going to give the on how to ride this horse today with a twinkle in arrive course and she would go on very solemnly say quote. 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I you ours. You're listening to the hull racing. Cloudy Network this is the Stellian spotlight presented by Red Bran's improbable to the outside Sidamo. Beach just won't let him by improbable. Second Oh yes cold front from the USA coming on Henry Mandolin Fraud Carl Front with every getting their cold. Front is operatives. The Product Co. thought wins for the US Saumarez by welcome back to the Equine Forum here on the Horse Racing Radio Network at work. Mike penna Baron of the backstretch in our Jimmy Johns of Lexington Broadcast Studios and Those four race costs. You just heard that's one heck of a montage right there that's a pretty good foursome by anybody's calculations and all four of those. Those horses will be joining the stallion roster at spendthrift farm and if you go to spend through a farm dot com you can view all of the stallions. I believe the total is twenty four. Now confirm that with our special guests who joins me now for this stallion spotlight segment to talk about the new stallions. He is Ned toffee. The general manager at Spendthrift Ned first of all merry Christmas. Good morning my friend. Good Morning Mike Great to be with you. Yeah happy to have you on board. Is it twenty. Four stallions is that right. Did I account right it. It is it is twenty four Dalian's although it was actually five a new stallions this year. Oh five who miss. So we've got maximus mischief mischief. Oh yeah that's who I missed okay. Yep Yep and and you know sound of intimate gifts and undefeated to your old One of initiatives fastest two year olds And if not the fastest and and Just a really really eight talented horse where we're really excited about him. You know they wonder why some of these grade one races only have five horse fields. It's because you have all the grade one winners Out Their spendthrift. You could fill a bunch of these grade. One races. Ned we had. We had a great all the farms out. There it's very competitive for the prospects Horses and and you know we we everything sort of fell into place for us this year so we were very fortunate and and and really happy to be able to offer our breeders such a such a broad range of really nice sources. I think that's the key when you when you go and you look at the spendthrift stallions or something for everybody. And then you have the different programs that being Hughes created with share the upside. And there's there's there's so many avenues for every type of breeder and I think that's pretty cool. Well thank you and that. That's you know we. We always try to remember that that You know you have to stay humble and remember where these horses came started his career as a a three thousand dollar standing standing in Maryland and into mischief In Year two was standing for for sixty five hundred dollars and was was one of the first. I horse is that we offered on share the upside program. So you know these these These we prove over and over again this really throughout the industry can come from anywhere you how do you do it. How do you take a horse? That's considered A A lower level stallion like that and Dan you bring him to spendthrift and all of a sudden they're one of the top stallions in North America. How do you? What's the philosophy the approach? How do you do it? Well I think the credit credit for that goes to our breeders And and I think the all that she can really do with a stallion is is give him the opportunity and Obviously what that means is is get get mayors under it and and when we're able to do that That that stallions got a chance. And you know it's a tough game the majority of stallions don't make it In their spin. They're standing in career and and oftentimes wind up in some of the regional. You know the satellite markets and go on to have very successful careers there but To to to play in Central Kentucky is is It's A. It's a pretty high bar for success and and But all you can really do is get get get the mayor's to them and And and the good ones show that Given the opportunity You know the cream cream will rise to the top. Let's talk more specifically about the five. New Stallions maximus mischief Omaha Beach Cold Front Matola and Breeders Cup Classic Hero. Vino Rosso I I know Omaha. Beach is still in training pointing the Malibu on opening day at Santa Anita are all of the others at spendthrift right now. EV- everybody else is at spendthrift and a available view and they've all everyone has settled in well l. and and And for the most part The books are are full or just about full on these sources. They've been very very ocular very well received by breeders. What are you looking for when a stallion arrived to spendthrift the to start his stallion career? What are some of the things you're hoping to see from him? Well I you know the the first thing we've got to do make sure you're gonNA be pretty fundamental but TAB. Look we we we. We WanNA horse that you know I think the what you never quite know about until you till we get them here the farmers what what kind of if mindset where they're going to have on the horse and and again. We've been very fortunate this year. We've got really good minded Intelligent horses good. Good doing horses. You know physically No no problems. that are going to interfere with their their daily routine and and breeding Mares and beyond that it's pretty straightforward but these this so far So far so good with describe all right. So let's take each one individually net in and you tell me what attributes they possessed that you and the team at spendthrift saw in the racing career. Her that made you think that they're going to be a successful stallion. And let's start with with maximus mischief Other than the fact that he's a son of your your superstar intimacy if what was it about the stood out. Well I think that's that's the obvious thing and there's no there's no wonder stating that the importance of being by astounding like into mischief into mischief with golden leading his his crop Sire list this year Intimate shifts already shown that he can get that he can produce a fire Being Cyrus is is is a huge thing. So that's that's an important part of this But the fact is this is such a precocious talented horse We were able to see him Early in his three year old year and just a tremendous tremendous physical so he's a horse that demonstrated demonstrated early on on the racetrack What he could do He's precocious he's fast He was actually even hurt. Ah In his two year old year was demonstrated that he was able to stretch out and run over a distance of ground so showed so much versatility in his in his career as as a two year old Fortunately got into some issues and and had a an abbreviated career and and so the the pricing reflects that But he he demonstrated that he could compete at the highest level and he's actually is is individuals fastest just two year old At two today which is pretty a pretty strong statement and so He he really showed us that. There's something there and he's able to offer value to operators in. Yeah four horses that we haven't talked about yet the newbies Cold Front Omaha Beach. Matali Vino Rosso. Just about two minutes or so left in this segment ned. So touch on those four horses for me briefly. Tell me what makes them such a good fit and so special we'll start recalled front. Well Co Front He is an absolutely gorgeous animal if if if people who have come out here to see him I think will what test of that. He's absolutely spectacular He is a Son of stay thirsty Who's from the just a prolific? AP EP Andy Line. This is excellent inbred APN and make so as very interesting pedigree play there but the five-time graded stakes when and and looks to kill You know the big three that we've gotten Matola. Vino Rosso in all beach They their books are Are Full Mentally Strong candidates or horse of the year. The I think the only four time grade one winner on dirt this year. raced by I I. Bill and Karen Hill highlight broke You know just as as talented a horse won the met mile. Four go on and on So really exciting and again at tremendous physical Vino Rosso You know again if if you're if you're involved in racing at all you know what source did This year and culminating with just a dominating Breeders Cup Classic Win Wonderful wonderful pedigree. Grand Looks You Know Uh Saint. Allies and micro Poli campaigned him. Whose bread by John Gunther author? WHO's had a track record of turning out of a really special horses so he's been he's been hugely popular with breeders and and We're just honored to be standing him And then of course Omaha Beach. Who's got a little more more work to do? He's going to going to run running the Malibu here in about a week's time and And then should go on to the to the Pegasus Saana warfront out of seeking the gold mayor. Really the the probably the most The strongest female dirt family in America. Right now and You know incredibly versatile and talented grade. One winner sprinting grade. One winner over a distance. The ground all in his three-year-old year He he's just as exciting stallion prospect. I think as we've ever brought it up pretty special you can go to spendthrift farm DOT DOT COM to learn more about those stallions and all twenty four of the stallions standing at spendthrift here in Kentucky Ned. Listen really appreciate the visit. My friend very very merry Christmas to you into the family. And please pass along those same sentiments to Eric in Wayne and tooth and Joel and everybody out there at spendthrift really do appreciate everything you do. And thanks for being with me here this morning. Thank you for having US Mike. Ned toffee here on H. R. R.. It's time now for your monthly visit with with the folks at four roses. Bourbon here in Lawrenceburg Kentucky and. I'm back with more right after this since eighteen eighty eight four roses. Bourbon has been made with the same passion and handcrafted is only they can and this interview much like that Great Bourbon. handcrafted by for roses joined by L.. Young who is the senior brand ambassador at four roses here on the horse racing radio network L.. Talk to me a little bit about what makes for roses so unique or well. You know the uniqueness of four roses can meet a fan is a high quality grain source people. We've been dealing with for the past sixty years. We have to mash bills which a grain menus and we have single-story warehouses where we age our distant and turn it into our really yummy tasting Bourbon and then we have five proprietary not east drains for the layman. That doesn't know much about Bourbon. What does that mean? Well that means that we're using a grain mash bill of one that seventy five percent corn twenty percent and Ryan by percent malted barley and the other one is sixty percent corn. thirty-five percent Ryan five percent malted barley and then at the the end of the process. You'll actually take these different combinations. And then mix them together to get the different flavors that you're exactly right yes we have five years. One produces a delicate prettiness another slightly spicy character a rich brutishness in the third one. The Portman in sort of like a floral essence roses my favorite and of course the last one as sort of an herbal quality to it. So like spearmint if you will no other Bourbon company uses all of these different east correct. That's correct. They're all proprietary all right and then the recipes are proprietary to I would imagine they are for or roses. Bourbon DOT COM is the website. You can learn more about all of the mash bills that we're talking about the two different Mash bills and of course about the five different yeast. Yes which of course end up giving you ten different recipes with the two-match bills. Am I saying that correctly. Exactly right and the different flavors that you can get all listed on the website as well. You mentioned your favorite the roses. How come I just think that there's a really nice aroma that comes out of the Bourbon urban if it has floral content to it it kind of speaks mellowness but it also speaks ingenuity and creativity that you can't find anywhere browse? Is there a proper way to enjoy bourbon. You know. I've heard that all across the country is that you travel around quite a bit. I've heard some say they like it. over Cuba heard they like straight up. Some like it and mixed drinks in my way of thinking as long as you drink it. It doesn't matter how you do when you look at the four roses Bourbon Dot com website. You'll see the different recipes that we're talking about and you'll see the different combinations that create these different different flavors so when somebody's looking at these different things on the website explained that. Tell me what they're looking at and how they can interpret all of that one hour if you look at it directly. You'll see that they're about four letters. Involved in the first letter is oh which stands for apprentice which is what our story was called. At one time marrone by Seagram's the second letter will be either a beep or a High Ri- or an EAP or a high corn mash bill or grain menu. The third letter will be. Es for simple distillation which involves still an adulterer and then the last letter will be one of those fabulous codes so if you take a look at our single barrel for example is says it's an Ob v letter arrangement that simply means it's a high rye mash bill with a fruity yeast. Okay okay so. This is the way that people can determine the flavor that they're going to get when they sample a particular bottle of four roses. It gives you an indicator once you open that bottle and start drinking bourbon. Your interpretation of what it is might be more pronounced might be even different. You never know I know many people enjoy bourbon with a cigar to. 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Heads off Yankee rise. Then kind good. Standing in pending the Klay About Astana veteran the golden rise four years ago this month that medallion durose highest rated Sun as Stern one on debut at two and then went on to win the great one golden rose in Australia a stern stance his third season. At Stud in the coming year at Darley's Jonah Belt Division and because of that big win in the grade one golden rose. He is your Darlie taking the reins performer of the week. Darley's stallion s turn Medaglia d'oro highest rated son in the world on time form the Star Australian Australian speed horse recorded a one twenty six time form rating which is no surprise considering his record-breaking win in the grade one golden rose. Australia's version of the Allen Jerkins Gins give a member of Darley's nominations team a call to find out more about this exciting son a Medaglia d'oro or visit Darlie. AMERICA DOT COM. Hi This is Larry Cole. Medicine you're listening to the horse racing radio network. You're listening to the Equine Forum on the Horse Racing Radio Network. It presented by Writ Brian Fence. Move past the five sixteenths. Lady's island has widened on the front. She's now open to six lead. Heaven has my Nikki. His second a bit above just not comfortable today to run home from the back as long shot really stormy embraced through a forty four and three half Mile Lady Silent. Three sixteenths from home and seven on top through left in her wake lady's island isolated on the top end. Jackie Hawe Romeo keeps her to her task but the task has been complete as a gate to wire destruction today. Sugar Swirl field. It's lady's island. Jonathan Victory Second Metal Close for third either pretty Greeley or bronx great and one tenant three pl over the call of the Sugar Swirl at Gulfstream Park last Saturday Lady's island getting the victory for trainer. Georgina Baxter the native lambourn England who has had quite a year here in two thousand nineteen but no more special moment than that victory by Lady's island. I learned and Georgina took the time to visit with me on our trainer. Talk show this past Wednesday night. She spent a full hour. Her story is fantastic. And if you missed any portion of that that show if you haven't heard it yet go back over to horse racing radio dot net and check it out but because of that victory and because of everything that Georgina has done in her life and in her career. I couldn't think of anybody more fitting to be our industry star of the week for this Saturday morning. This segment presented by Stuart Morris. WHO offers a boutique? full-service bloodstock operation. He wants to thank his owners clients and his team. He knows his success is because of you. visit the Stewart Morris consignment at all of the major sales well Georgina. Gina started by looking back on that victory by Lady's island. The whole bond is still on cloud nine about it. I mean she's just been such a good. Filly lied to us Especially this year. You know she's wanting a of nine and You know she. She had a first grade states. Where victory On Saturday. But you know that's third stakes win. I mean she's on the turf. She's one on the dirt. She's one on this law. I mean she's just a you know a great philly to do with you know she's she's she's one of my personal favorites You know for other reasons too. I mean she she's just she's a really nice city time in the bond and I was. I was happy to of you know cheese. That was Yeah the moment when she crosses the finish line and you realize okay she just won her first greatest stakes. So did you. What was that moment? Like I actually pulled me around the last hoffer longest sauces her my hails Yep Kinda famous for it you know I had a very sore throat afterwards and I mean I. I just think there's no feeling like you. I think that's well you know racing's about you know whether you train and I've never owned a horse but I can imagine you know he's just shit elation like there's not feeling like and I think that's why we get addicted to it because it's just just just sheer pleasure I I'm we get some. You know you get so much out of it. I think. That's you know people have said it before it becomes addiction. You get you get you know as as as unbelievable feeling and you know. We're so privileged to to feel that we're going to hear over the course of the next hour so that your whole life has been dedicated needed to horses. So I'll ask you this question. Were you more excited for you or for the Horse. When Lady's island crossed the finish line I of course the rules? You also please for them. I know being funny You know you just so pleased for them because they deserve it you know I mean they an and they and they deserve it you know and then then forty five minutes later. We had trevor winning Tampa. You know. We've had him he's been around. He's been the bond along with I have and you just so happy for the horses and and everybody else is. Just it's it's it's a feeling unless you know you you really can't undescribed is is absolutely unbelievable. Not This is why we do it. You know these moments but you know they just give us so much pleasure all of them but I you know the whole system. I say she is so happy for the host. You grew up in a recent family. Take me back to the beginning and and tell me about the early days of Georgina Baxter. Well well what am I. My my mom's side was real big racing family. I mean her father was a trainer and previously he was a a steeplechase Joe. Okay and Great. Grandfather was a train a- and all the siblings were were jockeys and trainers and my poor dad. He was putting off. He was probably trained by his parents when he was fifteen because he was so small. And you know he was one of ten and and they didn't have much money and he's basically put on a train was fifteen and told to become a jockey we she did very successfully so Yes I I was very privileged. You Know My dad was successful. I came from a good family. I had my first pony when I was. He's four years old. I know ponies around previously. I always had ponies in the paddock and Yeah so I I was brought up. We've we've also I think people I remember you know. I used to always be going racing as a kid I was. I was Steve Coz I'm used to come to the house and he's the sole no no. We had a sooner in the house. You know blew out his knee and you know these. These people were like you know friends of the family they. It was a Neum I can. I didn't know it was so special. Yes Georgina Baxter has been special for her. And that full interview available that Horse Racing Radio Dot net head head on over and check out the podcast. She spent time in Australia and Dubai and India and Barbados and she's been all over the world and now this journey has taken her here to the states. It's and she's just done an amazing job so thanks to her. And congratulations for being named our industry star of the week GonNa come back with our number two. It kicks off with Hall of Famer John Velazquez Aska after I pause ten seconds for station identification. This is H. R.. In from the rail to your radio this is horse Racing Radio Network Victory Gallop astill buddies coming real the victory of real quick to one hundred twenty running up the Kentucky Derby this team possible former Jimmy Johns of Lexington studios welcome to the equine forum presented by Red Brand Fence. It the latest over now. Here's Mike Welcome back hour number two of the equine forum presented by Red Brand Fence right here on the Horse Racing Radio Network happy to have you back with me. If you missed any portion of this show this morning the first half of the program that included my interview with Louis Kara Hall Junior and Ned toffee from spendthrift in our industry star of the week. Georgina Baxter. All you have to do is head over to our website horse racing radio dot net. You can check out the podcast there. You can also do it. Horse Racing Radio Network on Apple podcast and other way you can listen to the show at your leisure and listen to all of our programming throughout the year. Fun First Half of the show and Dan really looking forward to the second half one of the topics that has been front and center in the sport over the past couple of weeks and really throughout much of the year often on has been some of the things some of the challenges that face riders day in and day out at racetracks across America including use use of the whip. And how should riders use the whip. which by the way is also a safety tool when they're out there and to help fill listen? Listen on some of the things that were discussed at the jockey. Guild's annual assembly which was held about eleven days ago in Las. Vegas is my main John Velazquez the hall of Famer. Who is well? He's always front and center in these discussions and he does a great job working to represent writers all year long and Johnny is with let me now johnny. Good morning reminding Merry Christmas. Yeah I'm good. How are you again all right? So let's start with the the assembly what we're some of the key things that were talked about in some of the items that came up throughout those meetings probably on the one thing to safety and see you touch the you just you just a little bit about it about the way which she has not a whip anymore the way the the they were called Early on we have changed From the web to the question craps right now so we have to make sure that we D- d- defeat sharing Make the difference between one or the other one obviously the last couple of years we We have changed the crop. So much So much and so much better For basically for for the safety and and being over the horses and It's a tool that we were killed. A knee obviously Horses are very unpredictable in You know they can't spoke and they see here everything So we want to have. We wanted mixture that we have the tool that they're they are going to respect other combatants that we're trying to do and make sure that you know that in an straight-line no basically you know Make sure they understand what they're supposed to be doing So yeah that's one of the topics that was we talked about it Try Try to talk to the industry. the which would be involved with their new police. And if you will An anything any decision that they're trying to make For the for for the good of the game you know and safety the safety of the riders. That's well yeah. I think that's a great point Johnny and I brought this up at the top of the show when I was talking talking about some of the things we were going to discuss over the two hours here this morning that nobody nobody jockeys included would say that. Hey you know. We're not interested president looking out for the health of the Horse. The horse always comes first. But let's keep in mind. There are human participants in this sport to we have to make sure that those participants namely the the jockeys are also taking care of and I think that's where things can get a little sticky with the whip restrictions and to say that we're going to have whipless racing It becomes a huge safety issue for the human participants. Doesn't it absolutely listen. I mean they're a AH sample is the Kentucky Derby you know. Everybody's so what I did you know being on the lead in all those Dr Way and you know forces With with bothering the race doesn't things to everybody sees that even the jockey on top of the horses. We get surprised. You know that you you know there's a thing that sometime horses react in DC and and all of a sudden you know the the most forces Before they do anything anything they actually are giving signal the they see something and you give him a come on. Make sure this day is in the story line. Obviously this one didn't even give a assigned join anybody you know. He just went So bystander whipless Oh crap list and in and in the race it's very difficult in the a Lotta horses and and let's let's put it this way you know even in grace direct sick days in Even know big bass that there's always something happens on the racetracks or what person there's not supposed to be an and the place they're not supposed to be. Let's put it that way Within a close to the rail or sixteen April we even have a multiple. Their their. They're people worked in the racetrack. That sometimes forget they're not supposed to be there and an old takes. A one horse really. Spoke from that in in you. You know event just like it could be in the Kentucky Derby so those things that people have to think that they're of course heroin predictable there that you know you We are on top of them. We feel what were they. They're trying to do when we're trying to make Give them a command versus so they they respect the comments that we're trying. Aren't you doing and give him going forward. Johnny where's the middle ground on this issue. The mirrow ground I would say they listen. We already had change the from whips to the question. CRAPS now is safe for the words as we don't call the wells Or anything like that. That's that's is there The education that we have to show to the public you know at this is the tool the yes and it doesn't harm to work. You know we don't do enough I'm just going to the people in the fans and everybody else That we're not actually abused. Horses is the tool doesn't it and And obviously for the safety of the ride is on on on the horse himself. So that's the middle ground. We don't do enough for us to educate the public until all the people what it is for and that would not harm into horses. So that's that's about it. You Know I. I think this is more all over this nation to the public and everybody everybody else and listen. There's people out there by the people and I know that people have been made up already That we will never gonNA change their minds. It just simples that. They don't want horse racing they don't want pets out at all days. No cats or dogs could could be could be pets. So that's that's that's it's remiss. Let's put it that way for the people who actually want want the educated and wants to be understanding what. What horse racing is? Yeah they're gonNA make the they have the opportunity opportunity to make their own ninth and and see how Exciting and how great our sport is yes. We have problems. It's like everything else he has. We're working through problems throughout breakdowns. All that stuff yes we are. We have to do better. We all have to do much better in those things but we're working their problems. We're going the right direction into to make it for safety for us for the end does well remember the rewards again. Hurt their jackets on top of it as well. So for their safety or horses and the human aspect of it we work in two together to make it more safety for everybody. And that's sports there is the site in obviously it's been for hundreds of years And we hopefully we'll keep it for another thousands of the year so you know so we can make a a more exciting right you and more state for everybody and And everybody to enjoy it hall of fame writer and Jockey's Guild Co chairman John Velazquez with me here on the horse racing. Radio Radio Network You're talking about some of the things some of the issues that are facing riders. Johnny if you if you were to go to Santa Claus and you were to say Hey Santa. Here's what I want you to bring me and bring the riders for Christmas in two thousand nineteen. What's the the number one thing you're going to ask for safety safety for all of us? They were horses and riders. I always ask for it. I'm praying for that. That's that's my my players every day. Is the industry doing enough to support riders on the safety side of things You know as a hard questions because sometimes we we have communications in those seems to pass through. I just hope they. Yeah they they communications and everything that we try to do That we can work together and and really put it's true and so then just put in anything and not implement anything you know So hopefully yes I mean hopefully. They're they're all the talks Fox and and Communication we're trying to put you know put together and things together Together with with the with the the jockeys in the industry hopefully we can get together. They implemented really you know Such as possible obviously with all the troubles that we haven't so yeah I hope that I'm I'm I'm hopeful I'm hopeful that's that way. Yeah I I don't blame you and people that listen to this program and heavily into it for many many years now know that our official charity charity here on H. R. N. is the permanently disabled jockeys fund the PD J. F.. And I want to take this opportunity to encourage people to visit their website. PD Ajay F.. Dot Org anticipate writers who have given the sports so much and can no longer do it because of an injury they sustained in the saddle and the Jani talking about the safety issues that face the sport and the industry working together to make it safer with the horses and humans so important so that we don't Johnny Johnny. Wouldn't it be wonderful if someday we didn't need a PD J. F. because people weren't suffering these kind of injuries absolutely. Can you imagine I mean the the you know through all the years in safety and as you said we've been working there would would never need it for you know ask happens you know. It's just like a a an industry or Driving on the bicycle and everything so I'll be or would be great if we will never have accidents and we didn't. We don't have another jockey You know paralyze or you Amino brain injury or anything like that so we pay for that every day. So you know the one thing that I have to say. So they're always gonNA need it's actually guarantee parenti funded you know. That's why don't we don't have right now in NEPI digest funds So that we have to still you know working on that they went to we do have acted in and we have injuries like that That we need to take care of these guys and girls hurting the racetrack. So we're working on to WHO Work containable continuously working hard for get some sort of got into funding for it. That's that's what What we work in an on and hopefully in the near future we can get yeah amen? PD J. F.. Dot Org is the website and go there and support them Obviously the official charity of the Horse Racing Radio Network. We encourage urge you to do so. It's a great cause and it really does go a long way towards helping those riders who can't do it anymore because of an injury they've suffered and It's it's a special special group Johnny Shift Gears and talk a little racing for a minute. The Gray three Mr Prospector. Stakes is the Saturday afternoon feature at Gulfstream. And you're going to be aboard a Horse I for Todd pletcher named Zenden that you've not been aboard before you'll be writing for the first time yet to face the likes of imperial hint in X. Y.. Jet So you run into to a couple of tigers. They're nobody preps for a race like Johnny. You have walked me through your preparation on some of these big races before and walk me through the competition. And I I sit there just aghast at how you do this so put me there with you getting ready to ride the MR prospector. Your on a fifteen to one shot facing those horses. What are you doing man how you getting ready? Well obviously I mean this is a really really salty rates in an in if it will go back to. This could be a breeders cup up race with that kind of quality horses in that race so obviously a very tough racist. Short field with are really sold seahorses And let me like you said it could be one some of these horses Obviously should it be in a couple of for for whatever reason the know the ones that could have been there but anyway that's that's a quality raised up talking about and obviously that's the first thing you look at the competition looks and and how speed is going to develop and My my horse I think it's a running only one time. I'm not sure she lives. Kind of looking into Yes Zenden the raking here. I'm thinking he will only run once today. Yes yeah us out. let's see November. Third wants is November third. Yes so Iran really really raise eacho oh speed for the he ought to actually Chose their These reversible these became come from behind are if it's GonNa be a lot of the race try to get some sort of position. Pots what's following X. Y.. Jed and imperial hint and hopefully he can't response responsible the things I wanted to do it really From there I mean it's another worse lever was writing for Patrick biancone. Looks like he's doing he's done really well so I told her And then we have junk surveys with Iraq Ortiz. which in other words come you know up the pace look really well? I'll tell you what this is really really tough race and hopefully my heart. Can you know Placing itself in a good position. And hopefully we can call him. Run it yes. Yeah step up and run big rate. It's going to take a huge race from Zen didn't compete with these horses but you know. Look he's in the capable hands of todd pletcher in the capable hands of you the hall of Famer John Velazquez so with that said he has a shot. Johnny absolute thank you tonight. You gotta in it to win it so you gotta you gotTa be in it. That's for sure John Velazquez one of the hardest working jockeys in the sport. One of the classiest guys you're GONNA to meet great family person by the way. Merry Christmas to the entire family johnny but You know I remember every time I talk to you. I remember that first trip. We made to Gulfstream when we were starting. Hr End became. We came down to broadcast the Donn Handicap. I walked in to the jocks room and you came down to meet me. They called you down. It was the first time I had a chance to meet you. And and you took me around and you you introduce me to everybody and I I asked you. I remember asking you what I needed to do when I was going to get an interview with a jockey. 'cause I didn't WanNa just walk up and stick a microphone in your face and you said look come to us a day or two before. Let us know what you WanNa talk about. Set it up and you'll get better stuff than it'll be great and Johnny. You've been there from day one and I thank you for that and You know safe trip every time you get a leg got my friend. Thank you very much and thank you for a great job you guys doing as well. Well promoter and race in this part of our of our business you know and anybody who wanted to come in and and for art race in how great for is you know And I tried to help the best I can and I think you guys doing that and not only do you. You guys doing a great job from an racing for you also helping out with the jet which I really appreciate eight. It says and I think you're more famous than me now. I doubt that. Hey I've never wanna Breeders Cup race or Kentucky Derby. So that's okay but I think you've got the viewers a public behind you. Johny listen I appreciate it brother and again safe trip and keep up the good work With the guild and everything. You're working on there. I think you guys John Velazquez here on the horse racing radio network yet when I look I love Johnny v one of the classiest guys in the game and he was there from day one. And I'll never forget that Pretty special stuff personally anyways for me but Yeah Johnny v Zenden Fifteen to one going up against Imperial Hinton X. x y you better bring his running shoes. He'd better have his game. But I'll tell you one thing sneaky good sprint form with Zenden. He's three for six lifetime. He's been off the board only twice both of those coming in to turn route races the Tampa Bay Derby Derby in the Lexington stakes earlier this year. Now I'm not saying he's GonNa win this race because he's in with a couple of tigers but sneaky good sprint form for Zenden and he does have johnny be in the irons going to get to another break. 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You're listening to the Equine Forum on the Horse Racing Radio Network presented by rebrand fence. Welcome back to equine forum presented by Red Brand fence here. You're on H. R. R. N.. WANNA welcome everybody tuning in nationwide series to nineteen Xm to Owen and everyone joining us on our affiliates in Lexington Louisville across the country and of course everyone who is listening to us with our live streaming all over the world listeners in more than one hundred forty seven countries have made H. R. N. their we're home for thoroughbred racing coverage here in two thousand nineteen can't thank you enough for being with me here this morning. Happy Holidays to everybody. Throughout HR Nation Damon. Thayer is state senator. Here in Kentucky. He is the Senate floor majority leader and he is part of the legislative group putting forth a bill that would allow sports wagering here in the state. It could actually be approved at the upcoming general session. That begins on January the seventh here in Frankfurt and Dame's nut to spend some time with me now Damon first of all happy holidays. Good morning my friend a merry Christmas. Thanks for having me on. Yeah happy to have you with me but and looking forward to this conversation because this is something you know sports wagering. Look if I want to go make a bet my Pittsburgh Rick steelers to win the Super Bowl or Michigan State to win the national title in Say Basketball here in the blue grass. Is that not a good thing. Still Oh probably get about thirty to one I say look. You're you're a politician. I didn't WanNA play that the wrong way here in the bluegrass state for you like everybody knows. My favorite teams are Michigan State Kentucky. And who's ever playing Michigan. And whoever's playing duke well yeah or for North Carolina the yeah that works to that works too but hey I think it'd be great to go ahead and be able to to go to a facility here in the state in place wagers on sporting events so take me through the process. Your where do things stand. And where might we end up representative. Adam Adam Caning from erlanger up northern Kentucky has a bill. That's going to be considered I in the House of Representatives that would legalize sports sports wagering in Kentucky at essentially the race track and via mobile APP There are pretty good tax rates in the bill that I think are fair about ten percent if you make a wager at a brick and mortar facility like a racetrack and fourteen percents On the online mobile APP you'll be required. I go to a race track and sign up there For whatever provider. They're they're using So you can use the mobile APP. I'm a strong supporter of sports. Wagering I think we already have sports wagering in Kentucky. It's it's called Parimutuel wagering on horse racing and it's part of our history our culture and our tradition and I think extending that that right or privilege to folks who WanNa make a wager on traditional stick and ball. Sports is the next logical step and I also believe it will help the horse racing industry. It'll bring people it's a race tracks and maybe they'll take another look at horse. Racing live or simulcast or historical has something to do while. They're waiting to see the result of their two or three hours sports match that they're they're gathered to play. There's also a half a point. A from the brick and mortar locations that that will go to fund the Kentucky Thoroughbred Development Fund for the Kentucky Standard Development. Fine if the wagers made it a harness racing tracks allow you know I. I've said that that for a long time that I think sports wagering in conjunction with race tracks. The way it is being proposed is something that would have to help. The the racing industry mystery here in the state. I I don't look at it as a detriment or competition by any stretch of the imagination because it's a complete completely separate product but it brings people out to the tracking gets them on site which is which is such a huge part of the battle right now with thoroughbred racing. I agree with you. One hundred percent Mike you know. Can you imagine can say at the Red Mile here in Lexington where you can go there for. Live harness racing several months a year year round simulcasting year-round a year on historical horse racing dining entertainment and year round sports wagering or what about in northern Kentucky right across across the river from Cincinnati. That's our largest horse racing market in the State Churchill. Downs is going to demolish and rebuild turf way park with a I two hundred million dollars facility. Can you imagine that with all of those amenities you know. Fifteen hundred historical horse racing machine. Four months of live racing simulcasting Oh casting dining entertainment plus the ability to go there and bet on your favorite favorite sports team. I think it's GonNa be a really serious game changer. Sure and and I'M GONNA push my colleagues to try to pass it between January seventh than we adjourned on April Fifteenth Damon would race tracks received any kind of a subsidy from the the sports wagering product. He kind of like the racy know model or is it completely separate. It's completely we separate because we're not terra. Mutual wagering remember. It is a game of skill like Like parimutuel wagering. But it's it's it's a lot more risky for the license holder. The bill would offer it to be regulated by the Kentucky. Horse racing commissioned by the way and the the right or privilege of hosting the sports wagering would would be the the incentive I'm sure most so the race tracks Have various providers lined up to see how many skins for example you know fan duel and some of the other providers and the the the the the profit motive would be in in them taking the wagers and attracting more people to their facility and and and the and the traditional sports wagering business model which is different And more risky than than usual wagering and that you know to be certain to be certain it is. It's more risky for. Serve the way this is being set forth Damon would every track in the state heavy sports wagering facility associated with it or just say Turf Way Lean Red Mile. Oh no every faira. Mutual track in the state would have the ability they would have the right to apply to the racing commissioned for a sports wagering license so Oak Grove Kentucky downs Ellis Park Churchill downs red mile and keeneland. I have a joint operating agreement on simulcasting. Hr I'm sure they do the same on sports wagering and then turf way talking mistakes. Yeah Talking State Senator Damon Fair the Senate Floor Majority Leader Talking about sports wagering in sports. Wagering bill that Damon it could be approved proved at the upcoming session On January seventh or when it starts on January seventh is that right. Yes that's right. The session is sixty days. It goes through April fifteenth. And you know we have. We have a new democratic governor. Here which is you know not something I was in support we have Republican super majorities in the House and the Senate and we're deep red state but one of the things that gives me some optimism is this is one of the areas where I think we can achieve some bipartisan agreement with the new governor. I'm working with my my democratic colleagues Senator Organ mcgarvy From Louisville to round up Democrat votes to go with Republican albacan votes to pass the bill. So I think that that makes me a little more optimistic because I think there are a handful of areas where we can achieve. Some bipartisan agreement. With the new governor and sports wagering is quite frankly at the top of the list because there aren't a lot of other areas to be honest with yen. You mentioned the impact in the the benefit fit that this could have for the horse racing industry and as I said I completely agree with that. How about the state as a whole Damon? Are there any projections as to. What kind of economic impact sports wagering in the state would have throughout the Commonwealth? Well if we get the full implementation with the bricks and mortar application application plus the online application the estimates are anywhere from twenty to thirty million dollars in annual revenue to the state which is badly needed because we have a severely verily underfunded public tension Crisis in Kentucky right now but also it's going to create jobs and economic activity which will spur For Our economy further tax receipts to the General Fund. Just simply by creating more more jobs so I think it's a it's a very very good plan representative. Canaan has worked. It's hard on the bill gathering opinions from all the stakeholders and Jake fingers crossed. It's something I'm going to be pushing for next session which begins just to here in a couple always. Yeah we'll we'll keep an eye on that and thank you for everything that you're doing on that side of things to help get this through As I mentioned I'm a big proponent own and would love to see it. I think it's good for horse racing. I think it's great for the state and you just laid out some of those benefits and Damon really appreciate it and keep it rolling there. My friend keeping going. We'll keep rolling if you want an update as we're going through session. I'm happy to come back on. I'm happy to get Representative Canaan to come out and talk about says bill and he's done a terrific job and he certainly deserves a laudatory compliments from from horse racing fans everywhere for his efforts. He's a big racing fan. Like like I am he he and I were at turf way just a couple of weeks ago playing the races so by the way. We'll probably be up there again this winter yet it's Damon's a big horseracing guys. You heard him say a big sports guy too and this is something that's near and dear to his heart but I'll take you up on that offer we'll give we'll give listeners an update as to how things are coming along long. Once that session get started in early January happy to do it I body dame affair here on H. R. N.. Like all of our guests who appear on the program. He's going to receive Ziva gift. Courtesy of embraced the race the apparel for the horse racing lifestyle. Where would you love and embrace your passion at embraced the race DOT COM Damon? Merry Christmas Merry Christmas to you with all of your listeners. Pretty cool stuff. I think I mean I'm excited about it as somebody who enjoys betting on sports. Don't get to do it a lot around here but I used to do it a lot but don't do it a lot now but when I go to Vegas to sit there and bet on games aims especially time like around March madness. You never leave the race book the Sports Book you sit there and and then the exams such degenerate. I'll turn around bet some horse races because the action on the Basketball Games isn't enough or the football games when the bowl games are going on to be in Vegas at that time time. Come on off the charts and I could see it. You know if it set up where you have these racetracks is Damon. said they'll all be able to apply for a sports wagering license and build a facility next to the race track. I I could see that being when I grew up in Albany New York there used to be tele theaters. There were ot bees all over New York but there were telling theaters in one in particular in Albany. That was is really well done. It was very nice. The food was good. It was a classy place. You could commend reserva table. Sit there and bet the races all day long. They're big screens everywhere. You had a couple of bars in there. Food was excellent and I could see this being the same type of thing. Where if if you WANNA come in and sit down and have some lunch launch? Has Some dinner. Bet some games. If racing's going on you'll you put the racing. That's the other thing I should ask Damon with the racing product. I'm sure it would be on in the sports betting facilities. I'm sure it would have to be. He talked about the state already. Having sports betting with Parimutuel wagering horse racing thing so I would think that would be pretty cool. You want to walk across to the race. Track an experience the race track watch big race live comeback over bets more games there is no downside to this in my opinion anyway. No downside and we'll keep you updated on how this continues to move through the legislative process as you heard Damon say he and representative caning. Come back on and and Fillion on that as we we get through that process in early January well Santa Anita gets ready to open. It's open. It's doors the day after Christmas. That's the traditional opening day at the great race place. That'll be Thursday this week. Going to talk to Frank Mir Ahmadi when when I come back and frank the track announcer there get a little update as to what you can expect not just with opening day. Of course we know. You've got the Malibu in Omaha beach pointing for that race. And then probably the Pegasus World Cup. But I'll talk to frank about the meat and calling races at Santa Santa Anita and what that's been like for him We'll get into that in the next segment. Couple of reminders. You can follow social media at H. R. N.. On twitter horse racing radio network on facebook and Instagram are two thousand twenty race broadcast schedule which begins with the Pegasus World Cup. At Gulfstream Dream in late January will be posted on our website shortly putting the finishing touches on that schedule. A couple of unique changes couple of additions into the schedule this year. Going to be heading to Oaklawn Park to broadcast the Arkansas Derby for you cover that race in April April. We'll be back at Charlestown for the Charles Town. Classic and of course we'll bring you exclusive radio coverage in partnership with NBC sports in Westwood. One one of the Kentucky Derby the preakness and the Belmont stakes. You'll hear the Breeders Cup in two thousand twenty exclusively with us here on the network. That's at keeneland. This your home game for us. Yeah I like that. So all of that schedule our entire schedule be posted on our website shortly horse racing radio dot dot net. So make sure you check back when you're heading over to listen to the podcast of our shows you check back and take a look at that schedule all right frank. Monroe body comes up next. He'll talk to me about at Santa. Anita meet this is the form on H. R. N. presented by Red Brand fence manufacturing the Mesh and Nankai Fence. You see on horse farms worldwide. 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Getting the media takes the rock hard ten did it. That was in two thousand four in the Malibu opening day of the Santa Anita. Meet one of five victories in the Nahla Boo for hall of Famer Richard Mandella. Who can forget that one rock hard ten trevor? Denman with the call and Mandela's good as it gets he's going to add to that record in this year's Malibu Thursday when he sends out the super talented Omaha beach he'll we'll be prepping for the Pegasus World Cup in that race and the man who will call it this year is the voice of Santa. Anita Frank Mir Ahmadi who is with me now here on H. R. N.. And Frank Good morning and Merry Christmas. My friend. Good Morning. Merry Christmas to you and all your listeners. Big Fan of your network and certainly very much looking forward. We're just five days away. We're drawing the field a little bit later this afternoon For the run happy Malibu stakes then of course run happy. I had the privilege of calling him in in Twenty fifteen and now he's sponsoring the race and I certainly remember rock-hard tens big win to that was a while back but he was a big boy and a beautiful one to. What's it like to stand there in the booth at Santa Anita look out that the San Gabriel's and call a race at the great race place? What's it like for Frank Mira Monte? It's a very beautiful thing and for me. It's the It's the ultimate job. It's something that I really would would've never imagined even being in the realm of possibilities but Trevor Denman is my idol. I love him so much. And I've really been inspired by his brilliance. And I always hope that maybe one day as my career started you know establishing itself that hopefully the situation would work out that when he retired I would have this job. It certainly wasn't the road I expected in in getting this job And it just goes to show you that life is a little bit stranger than fiction but it's It's an amazing feeling Mike. And it's something that I'm very grateful for every day and every race I Approach to gate. I just look I look outside. I don't but that become anything that take for granted I always look at this yellow sat on either sign on the top of the starting gate and I smiled before every race. And just try to do do a trevor told me which is to open my eyes and tell the people what I see and and that's it just be honest with the fans and share my description and and be accurate and do the best. I can and be excited when it's warranted and it's just It's just living a dream. Come true and and really. I can't fairly safe. That dream come true because that could have never pictured at happening. If it's beyond a dream come true in terms as good as it gets but frank. He's never called Racist Rodney Dangerfield. He he hasn't in that I had one race in At Louisiana downs. There was a horseman Deniro's delight. I wish I could get a tape of that. I did it as Dangerfield and Deniro back back in the same rate and in doing the Dangerfield Deniro and at the end Deniro's delight ended up winning the race and He was about about twenty two one. It was just a great thing and the impressions I've actually done it impression. Extent Anita When I filled in twenty fourteen and twenty fifteen I did the last race race? I did I did as trevor. Just Kinda give him a little Al-Majd but I don't anticipate any of that any time. So when did you first start doing impressions. Very young and H I would say my mom has told me as early as h five. I was mind needs to listen to a lot of Tom. Jones Engelbert Humperdinck. uh-huh used to My first impression. I think officially was out of Tom. Jones singing Delilah would stand on the coffee table and Sing Delilah for my mom and my family and and interestingly we lived in what would have been right around like fourth or fifth grade. We lived in a house on ochre. Strive to three six south ochre to be exact and a couple of doors down. Was the gentleman by the name of Thomas Butler and does was the voice of Yogi bear. He was the voice of huckleberry hound of captain opted crunch Elroy Jetson a bunch of cartoon characters and snuggled plus and my brother. Somehow you know he was three years older than me so at that point. That's that's a significant age difference. And Somehow He. I don't know how he met this guy but we used to go to his house and watch him Do cartoon characters he's an old man and it was fascinating to me but the interesting part of that was. My brother was way more into it than I was. Besides my brother knock on the door and make tapes for friends and so on and so forth I just was kind of fascinated by it but somehow I ended up getting into you doing voice impressions at a Young Age and then when my dad took me to the track every week started becoming impression so tractors give for those who've never had the chance to hear one of your calls with the impressions thrown in. I encourage people to Google it Frank Mir Ahmadi Probably Rodney Dangerfield. We'll get it done or frank. Mir Mir Ahmadi Impressions And they'll be able to find some erase calls out there where you do that. How long does it take you frank to to learn when I saw you at Breeders Cup you said You were working on a big impression And you were. You were starting to get it down. How long does it take you to to finally fine-tuning get it where you want it when you start working on impression? I think it has to do with With you know really good listening and then it has to be something thing distinct and the big a is definitely distinct. And I've actually had. I've had some chances to listen to him on your radio You know whenever I drive around and and it's only recently that I realized they had the opportunity to do that You know in the last year but I started to To tune in and whenever I drive around during time. So what's your shows up and so you you listen for certain things and inflections and then having known the big with You know in person and such you have to watch actually the way the mouth moves to get an indication or to to get help in creating that sound and so so It it takes sometimes. It's real quick and sometimes it takes a long long time. I would I learned marv Albert marv Albert arguably one one of my Bachelor's impression smart here H. R. Radio Network so when when you listen to Marv He's very distinct and he kinda like not well. I had a friend who in the in the mid eighties was was I was hanging out with a bunch of New Yorkers and a bunch of track fans what a shock and and and this one guy named Steve did an amazing marv Albert. And I don't even know who marv Albert was. He wasn't an important figure Camila at that time he was doing the NBC game of the week. for baseball and he would oftentimes interview people people in the losing dugout. Or you know. He had this almost like sambre approach when he would be in the in the losing locker rooms during losing. You did a great job with Not necessarily being in the most exciting situation anyhow. I watched my buddies Way of doing that impression and it certainly helped me because when you hear an impression you hone in on what is important. And what is distinct and from there you just Kinda work on it and so I like when there are other impressions out there because it gives you a quick roadmap to what you're trying to accomplish and I think one of the most important things that misunderstood or not really acknowledged with impressions. Is that oftentimes. The material that comes with it is more important than the pinpoint of the voice if you can get the right Stuff into the impression it becomes significantly better and there's some that are important to have the The look you know what I do to narrow the look of certainly better than others you have to get you know zone in. And it's hard to describe how it happens or why I can do it but I probably should have been doing voiceovers a long time ago. Yeah a lot of money on the table I could. I could have had some the the I wish I was thinking. We spent so much time talking about that this morning. We should have done a portion of this interview with some of the different voices that you do. We could interviewed those individuals else too. But we'll save that for another time here up the road. Frank just a couple of minutes left before I have to get to a break and we haven't even talked about the meat yet. I mentioned the Malibu Opening Day. This this Thursday this coming Thursday The male will kick it off. That's always a great race. You've got the SAN ANTONIO THE LA brea stakes as well. But the Malibu Labra Labraya both of those great wants taught me about some of the highlights of the upcoming Santa Anita meet outside of opening day. Well of course. This is the big traditional meet so the Santa Anita Handicap Is always a big tradition. The big cap has been something I've enjoyed and still have all racing fans around the world and of course then the road to the Kentucky Derby Stops in at the great race place with the Santa Anita Derby those are the obvious highlights and It's long meet. That goes was into June. I can tell you that the Malibu is the race. I've looked forward to since I was a little kid and The middle wasn't always on opening day. But certainly oh it it has been a tradition for the opening day for quite some time opening. Day is so important first of all. I should let you listeners. Know that I post is early. It's eleven thirty And we have a craft beer festivals cider festival Where we're going to see as you mentioned Omaha beach we'll see Bella Fina and mcbrayer and You know this is. This is what it's all about. You know we get a little break in the racing and everyone looks forward to opening okay at Santa Anita there with their families during Christmas but the racing forms will be out and people will be digging in. We'll have a great card and Just to another a big story at Santa. Anita's we kick off another fantastic year. So we're We're obviously all excited from the standpoint of being employees of Santa Anita Park but for me it's a dream come true but it's also it's also big work. That's the one thing is that it's not easy to just go out to the racist and sit it down and enjoy it but the announcing part as fun as it is is also a job. And it's a lot of pressure when you're at a place like Santa Anita but that's what I always wanted to do so Just having a great time over here and looking forward to having some big support from the fans and hopefully putting on a great show the greatest race discourse yeah looking forward to hearing your calls each and every day Frank Mir Ahmadi here on the horse racing radio network. Frank really appreciate the visit. My friend and Keep it rolling out there air. We'll look forward to tuning in on Thursday in hearing all those races with your voices appreciate it. Thanks a million and shout out to Kurt Becker. For the Great priebe Leaders Cup pep talk. He gave me at Santa Anita. He's good like that. Read a best all right. Frank appreciate it merry Christmas. That's Frank Mir Ahmadi like Oliver. Oliver guests will receive a gift courtesy of embraced the race. Embrace which you love and where your passion at embraced the race dot Com when I come back Very special closing segment here. 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Velasquez was here in the second half along with Kentucky State Senator Damon Thank Talking About Sports wagering and Frank Mir Ahmadi from Santa Anita just a few minutes ago Mike thanks to each of them for helping to make this show possible. I hope you enjoy the two hours. Hope you have a wonderful Christmas happy Hanukkah and for our Canadian listeners of very happy happy boxing day coming up as well. I told you I had a little gift for. HR nation that. I wanted to leave you with an end the show in this fashion. I'm in one thousand nine hundred five my late partner and former mentor. Who started the network when the peak coolest put together a poem and every show our show? Oh before Christmas. He would read this poem as his gift to the listeners. I you know I've always wanted to do it. I haven't done it in many many years and so I thought it would be nice to start that tradition again here in two thousand nineteen so the title of the poem is called reprieve may remind you a little bit of the night before Christmas but not really But it's called reprieve and written by Peter S coolest back in nineteen eighty five and here it is again a a very merry Christmas. Happy Hanukkah and happy boxing day to everybody throughout HRIS nation. I'm Mike Penna from my producer. Lead Elefsina here in our studio studio and for Chauncey handling all of our social media. We'll talk to you coming up next week. Here on. Our in the last race was coming. He now had to score two bucks in his pocket. He needed. No more. The odds board had flashed He had the right one. His horse was named Info at forty two one. He glanced at his program. Could this horse get beat. Not a chance in the world. He had studied the sheet. He reached in his pocket and fingered as one's two bucks to his name but he had the right one. He went to the window and waited in line. He looked at the race track. His horse look just spine. He called out his number. The man punched it out. That small piece of paper would give cause to shout. He walked to the rail clutching hope in his hand. The horses parading in front of the stand. The crowd was now milling. The start was now near. He fingered his ticket and trembled with fear. Now the money any he lost he could not afford but impo would win it and then he scored his hand grown sweaty. The start was at hand. When Post time was sounded his legs felt like sand? The field was in line in the green starting gate. His ticket on Info no a matter of fate the gates now flew open. The field thundered out info on the inside was shuffled about the horses. Were flying to the half-mile Pole Info was seventh and looking for a whole. They went to the far turn. The favorite in front info lay seven can far from the front at the top of the stretch was the favourite by five but impo was moving for the long stretch driver. They came to the eighth pole. The favourite had quit now impo was fourth on the outside of it as they drove to the wire they were four horses wide info in the middle with a powerful stride. They flashed past the wire only noses. This is the part a photo was called for not good for the heart. The long wait was torture for nobody knew who really had won it but he felt not new. It had to be info his mind filled with fear if impo had lost it what more could he fear. The numbers were posted. He stood there aghast for Impo had lost it the die was now cast. He's stood by the rail till all had gone home still clutching his ticket. He cared not to Rome. A breeze had now risen as he stood there alone swirling bunches of tickets in the form of a comb the the ticket was crumpled. He clutched it so hard. Like a small piece of paper one would find in the art. He opened the ticket and shouted we glee we with this winning ticket. He gained a reprieve for rather than Info he had number. Three a winner for a wapping two hundred and three.

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In The Gate #390 - Breeders' Cup Preview Weekend

In The Gate

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In The Gate #390 - Breeders' Cup Preview Weekend

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Nine text l. i. f. t. two seventy nine seventy nine seventy nine. He was the bridesmaid in last year's Breeders Cup, sprint will imperial hint received the big bouquet. This November plus the world may not be enough for this dashing young writer whose confidence strengthen a Plum mirror 007 himself. Straighten Van Dyke joins us. As we look ahead to Breeders Cup preview weekend on this edition of in the gate. There ought to be. This is in the gate ESPN's thoroughbred racing podcast. My name is Barry Abrams. You can follow me on Twitter at be Abrams voice or on Facebook at Barry Abrams voice. You can also get us on our YouTube channel by searching in the gate podcast. You can get us on soundcloud as well. Get us on the I tuned store or tune in dot com. You can get us on that little pink pod catcher app on your phone. You didn't even know you had and now you can subscribe to in the gate in the listen tab of the ESPN app for the full in the gate experience of scribe. Now in the listen tab of the ESPN app at one point in the career of imperial hint, he finished twelfth in the Pat Day mile Churchill Downs, followed by another twelve in the Woody Stevens at Belmont Park. You wouldn't think that a horse with that resume would ultimately develop into one of the most imposing sprinters in the country. Would you? Well, the back toback twelfth place finishes came two years ago, and since then imperial hint has finished first or second in eleven of his last thirty. Thirteen starts including MS demolition of the field and the great one. Alfred wind Vanderbilt at Saratoga. Comes imperial hint and he's coming four wide toward these front runners, warriors club in behind them, and imperial hint has taken the lead and under a hand ride, he takes eight tags off by five hobby are cast Alana was not even the going on, oh, what a performance here? Imperial hint destroys his competition on the Vanderbilt in one. Oh, eight point, nine eight. And he never even drive. Imperial hint is something of a rags to riches story. And so is his trainer Luis Carbajal. This guy trains about twenty or so horses mainly at the allowance and claiming levels, and that's roughly double. The number was training last year, of course, winning two graded stakes and finishing runner-up in a Breeders Cup, race as imperial hinted. Last year is a pretty good way to advertise your services. But before we get to this year's Breeder's Cup, there's the matter of imperial hints prep race, the grade one Vaas Berg at Belmont Park. So to chat about this rising star, we welcome in the trainer of imperial hint, Lewis Kara hall here to win the gate. He fared so poorly in those first two graded stakes tries, but it's been full speed ahead since then, where did that turn around? Come from. Well, you know, fortunately we have some issues of the beginning of his career, and I think he was a little premature to to run me this. And then we kinda give us a little time and would regroup. And we know that this was he had severely to run and I never had a doubt that he was a special horse. It just he was so young and he was not ready to probably those kind of race it, but now we can see the with the right thing and we went on row. We mentioned that you train roughly twenty or so horses right now, most of them claiming an allowance level horses. What was it like to win a grade one race at Saratoga? No less. Well, we, we do this job and we, we always have it dream and it. It's harder for trying to like myself. We have a limited kind of. Horses and the quantity of course that we get. But that's what it would keep us going forward a dream. You always dream that you get a horse like this when they wanna have right now and just to be able to go to sign toga. I mean, I I've been training for ten years now and I always wanted to go to set out though in the run on my horses there, but I couldn't find the horse or a race that I can go there and do good or whether it's just a tough season there that meeting over there so that the stuff by just even last year I think couldn't went to in and more there, but I was kinda trying to dock everybody big one. So I pass. And this year I think we would ready and I know a lot of people that I have a lot of friends than in just to be there with a horse like this one, it just I don't know if I don't know if they celebrate and cry laugh. And I, it just it brings back so much memories. I worked there for my current. Then this my first year, the train of micro data so that I worked for in Japan Acuna and and just starts so many people that they go. There they know they're just, I don't know, twos, amazing. I mean, this is what all the trainers like myself. This is what we're looking for it, and I got lucky that I got mine ready and and also do the trainings, you know someone, they haven't get lucky year, but they always looking for this particular dream, like I have. Well, we mentioned you have a small stable, but you train this horse for a man named Raymond Mamone. He's eighty four lost his wife six years ago. They went to racist together at Monmouth park where you're stabled for decades. Imperial hint is his only horse right now. Now you having a small stable and having this guy with his story as a client. What's your relationship like. With him. I'm Mr. Mamone eighteen ninety seven which is a little over twenty years now. I used to be an assistant trainer for Bob through, so we really nice horse named frisk me now, and that's how I missed the memo and they had horse. It's the do so. And we kinda like friends, you know, he always looked after me also miss the Minoan and you know, I have no family here in the United States. I'm from Chile and nobody from back home. So he kinda look after me. I can consider having like my grandfather, but just very loyal man. That's why him before that. I'm glad that my friend owner client for me and you know, he could divorce in my bone and we always have to three or so for him. It was stuff too. When he loves his wife, he kinda. Kline a little bit on coming to the racers often. But now I mean he could have cell disorders. Bari could've sell these floors. You've got a lot of money off or for him, but he told me one day they, he had a dream. He dream is wife. He was in the dream and and she told him to keep the horse. And that was his dream to have a really nice source. And that's where they can be a lotta numbers on the check for discourse by he wanted film scores right now, and I don't think it will ever sell this, but it was really need to really amazing story. But it's my relationship with this. It's it's, we're really close friends and and he's very loyal than the toward for a kin- some any better Klein in interestingly, imperial hint doesn't come from what you would call regal breeding by imperialism out of Royal hint, a daughter of leeann. And while you're father was a jockey in Chile, your family isn't exactly regally bread either like the rices or the bases where all of them became big successes in racing, what was it like coming here from Chile and trying to not just adapt to the business, but the culture is well. Well, right now, chilly, economically is doing really good, but you know, bucking the eighties, I, I wanted to be Jarque in my father always told me days better future in the United States where you get more -tunities is the land of the -tunities in them. I'm so glad that I came here and it was stuff on the beginning, come into their age and not having your family here, your mom, but to start at bronner's and everybody's by Coleman. It was a lot of tough at the beginning, but a like the idea to become somebody do something good. My father on my by calling me the media from Chile, they'll was back in the, they're happy that they have some guy from truly make it through the big racist in any student. Just, you know here they know, say, give so many opportunities that that you feel welcome. You know it's happening right now and but my dreams were to be a jockey and my weight one easing it didn't help me at all. So also many or the dream was to be a pilot and we were very close. I, you know, I got on my license as a pilot and I was ready to give up horses when I was assistant trainer football door. So then and I was going to take a job as a flying factor in Florida, and but everything change from one day to know they're up doors so you know, he wanted to target. And so I took over the on my funds zone, the guy who is the horse industry and he's pretty proud out of we got like a Ford or the brothers, and I'm doing Lee wondering still distinguished free. So he's very proud and my family almost trainer Luis carbohydrates us here on the gate will send out imperial hint and the great one Fosberg on New York's Breeders Cup preview day on Saturday. Now you've been out on your own for rounded decade, like you said, what. Is it been like trying to compete against these massive stables here in the east like Todd Pletcher, and Chad Brown. It's. It's tough to compete against him, but also it's good feeling to run against those guys. Those guys have some big operations and some world class horses in clients, and it just feels really good to be able to sign off Alertus next target and shot Brown, and just knowing that you have also horses very competitive and this is where it's all about. I mean, it's hard to get there like, you know, like I said before, you just need lock. You need one voice and you can compete with those people to you know, one, you have to compete with them and it's it's a horse racing. And if you have the if you can always do things, but just to be next to those guys and shake hands with them. And you know you compare with this mega stables. You know, I it just it's a good feeling. You know, it's, it doesn't happen all the time. So you know, I got a great barechested and the great horseman to and just to be next to them, it's great. They're into those stretch, and here's imperial Hinton. Bobby Abu Dhabi and these two have taken over with more to come and get them recruiting, reading thrown of the town that always sunshine, it's imperial hint, Pineau, sixteenth in front Bobby Abu Dhabi Whitmore closing outside imperial hits, close to home with more fifth period hates wins to Dr. Let's talk about the Vosper a bit. Imperial hint certainly ran well the last time he started at Belmont Park in the true north, what are you hoping to see from him this time. Versus very healthy, extremely well, I think have ever coastal on its is been doing a great job and he knows who is very well, and hopefully we'll get a good base trip. And I think that's the one I'll leave it to heavier. Again. I mean, we got the horse ready. It's doing really well. And so on. Saturday comes for boxer, and then I'll get customer on or leg up and he he'll know what to do with this horse much against say, we're gonna running. He'll make this station, went the gates open. Now, imperial hints run twice at Churchill side of the Breeders Cup and run poorly both times both on derby day once on a fast track two years ago. Then on a wet track this year, both times he vied for the early lead. What do you do to try to help them out running Churchill? Should he get that far? Well, if. Goes to these phrases sound coming up. I think you know if we get to go to the Brusca we haven't have much luck choice show. I, I mean. I think he he run a great many on it was way too, too long for him going on. We just try to get on a Amal because he was one. And then the second time I the Hussey was working beautiful gun, but I would just a little bit wearing if I went a couple of hours two hours before the race when they started pouring rain. And I look at the track and I was really happy. I did my one over the slop and muddy track has one. They just have a feeling and I think that's seven NATO. So I only skin six. I know by phone links, I didn't get be twenty lengths, and that's what right now. I'm just strictly stay with the tweet quarter of distance for him. So you know, it's just been been lot. I think just my hoisting wilted thrift because reaches chips. You know. When he was too far. The other one, I think the track getting playing he favored and get stuck in the inside after in the only less full length. But if we do go to these coming down three quarters, but I think the way they're have years writing the score now that he, he can come off. The Ps unison has to be relief. It's been running in the north and Banda-built has been taken back, you know, running through four if he does the same thing on the briefs Cup, if he can lay off to just take close to the pace and interior four. But I think we're going to have a good chance you start. Hopefully I'll get the the monkey on my back. Choice with down. I think that there when its wasn't it. We'll one step at a time. The Vosper comes up on Saturday, and we certainly wish the best of luck Lewis carve a halt. Thank you so much for a few minutes here on the gate. Thank you very much. We're going to take a short break here on in the gate, but when we come back, he's becoming a big part of the next generation of top riders in American racing rate. Vandyke looks ahead to preview weekend and the Breeders Cup right after the break. Computer execute twelve point, four p. operation. Optimizing algorithm running encryption, packet alpha, Knight, Knight. Oh, I don't feel so good. What? What is it computer? Is it hot in here? It feels hot in here. I feel a little clammy. I should lie down or something a computer with a virus. Surprising. What's not surprising how much you could save by switching to Geico those oysters. Rockefeller were a mistake. Geico. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percents or more. To the in the gate podcast. He's a writer who's become used to winning Drayton Van Dyke Tida del mar record on August twentieth by taking seven races on one card, he has several potential Breeders Cup mounts one of which will be an action. This weekend false and rescue business side by side sharing third Laforce. Now in the clear chief leading up smartly g Beazely out dash is risky business and coming pasta. Paul on favor kicks away at Slough off by two and a half. Now, Caroline, risky business mania Reney, but before supposed to force a big onto the Lakhan yada is too strong for this group force finished. Second in her. Most recent start will Drayton Van Dyke be able to lift her to the top step of the podium. Let's get into it a little bit as we welcome the man who was born in the shadow of Churchill Downs site of this year's Breeder's Cup and raised in hot springs, Arkansas, just a furlong or two from Oaklawn park that would be jockey Drayton Van Dyke. Who joins us here on in the gate. Laforce is a four year old German bread. And even though she has European breeding, she's run primarily on dirt and she'll make her third straight grade one start. And then yada Laforce was second in both the Clement l Hirsch del mar and the beholder mile at Santa Anita, both times to unique Bella who's now retired due to injury. How does unique Bellas absence change your strategy with the in his n yada right before she has one style. She likes to get kinda go at your own pace and she really finishes up strong. So really it doesn't change my tactics on the way. I'm gonna writer. She's pretty pretty straightforward. If anything, it just makes us have a better chance that you get those. Now you went through the fall after winning your first del mar, titled that seven wind day that moved you from six back to one up and forty. Two wins were enough to overtake fluffy on Pratt, who finished with thirty seven. What do that day? And that title mean to you? That was that was a huge day to win seven races in, and I knew how to pull something crazy like that to even get near father because he had a pretty sustainable becoming by wins. And I mean, I would have never thought to have day like that to to win seven, and it's something I'll never forget it. And a lot of people won't forget that. Had a lot of people come up to me and say, hey, it's history tied victors those when it seven in one day and said, I mean, people can ever do that in their lifetime. So it's a really, really great achievement to have, and it was kinda cool to to win seven to catch flooding. Winning the title. So it was a makes for a great story. Laforce will be running here on Breeders Cup preview weekend. You have a few other potential Breeders Cup mouse that we have to ask you about Catalina cruiser a four year old who didn't make it to the racist too late in his three year old year. But all he's done since is when each of his four starts including a pair grade two's, he's another that runs usually on or near the lead. Have you thought about trying to rate Catalina cruiser or you content to just let them do what he's done? Yeah. I mean, it kind of. Do what he's done. He's he's kind of Greg supports. You can't be when when you get next other horses, and so you kind of breaks good and and got that nets. The speed, the big horse sticks drawn were. So my main thing with him is the break good and and try not to get in any trouble and try to relax and get off the bridle and rate like that. But I mean, I think it's only one way that he's he's been doing a great job with in the morning. I've been seeing seeing go by, looks like he's kind of starting to relax a little bit. So I mean, it's gotta gotta play the break in and how the racist going to unfold it through chill. And I mean, I'm sure I'll be close to leading so, but it it's just a big, big, aggressive horse in and Alexa do jobs. Did you say one Leiva gets up on them in the morning? The jockey who himself has won a Breeders Cup race before, yes, sir, works for John salad Gallup's. I believe he's a part of system and John was up. Ration- he's gotten on a lot of good is that I've recently done with catapult shoutout to one doing a great job. There's also city of light who won three straight races over the winter, the grade one Malibu and triple bend, as well as the grade to Oaklawn handicap. Most recently, he shipped east on Travers day at Saratoga and survived a wide trip to finish. Second behind Whitmore in the forego how is city of light coming along our brief city. He's doing well from what I know. He came back from that race very, where the pointing for Bruce caprice in his own. Right? So I think all systems go for him as well. Jockey Drayton Van Dyke joining us for a couple of minutes here on in the gate. Now these are horses who will likely be running Breeders Cup weekend. If not this weekend, there's a little horse. You also ride that won't be running it all again, this year. Instagram Fouts given these head and he's striding away very, very impressively. And look at this guy. Go Instagram, nine, ten links coming home to a scintillating performance in the best bell could not have been more impressive. Right. In Van Dyke just let him run along on his owner. Larry best who's Nantou Garin racing is always so equity decided to put Instagram's on the shelf for the rest of the year. Even though he's perfectly sound, how did you feel when you heard that. I mean, he's got his own tactics going about things they best. I mean, he's obviously a talented to your. We everyone in the country seeing that. And I mean, e e wants to kind of last and I mean, that's his decision to do that. And I mean, I, I don't disagree disagree with him, easy owner of the whole. So hopefully to try to seem when he comes back around gets back into training. No hope everything's all right with him. Comes back where you left off. Now. We mentioned one Leiva who wanna Breeders, Cup, race, aboard, musical romance. You're still looking for your first Breeders Cup, win with all that you've accomplished already. What would a win in the Breeders Cup mean to you? Something I really, really wanna do. I mean, like you said, I haven't wanted to be crates, but also I haven't running Minia. So hopefully I can have more than a few chances this year to to knock one out, but that that's something I wanted my belt and my mentor, Mike Smith, he's win his Fisher biz cups. I start catching him and try to catch his. The number of Wednesday's had those, but which will be hard. But yeah, I'm really looking forward to when abuse go. You've spent a lot of time around Mike Smith, not just for being in the southern California jockey colony, but like you say he and you have had a relationship going back and you see what he has done at this advanced age. You've seen it better than most. How amazing is it that he's been able to do what he's done? Remarkable. You know what I. Everything he's done because what he did outside of the track to try to maintain his body, how he works out and is regime that he has. He doesn't break. I mean working out almost every day here you don't even the younger guys do that. So I mean, he's he's really working at it to stay on if you can't. I mean he's writing great and I ate to go. So I hope he can keep writing another ten years, how much of that work ethic and the routine rubs off on you. Rubbed off on me from the word go, but I always naturally thin type of person. I mean, back in high school, I was working out in jogging before I even went to school before the bus getting to. I've kind of had that naturally myself and when I kinda got around Mike of kinda seem like me kid is working out in and really trying to best. And I like to take care of my body these figures I can't. We kinda just hit it off when we first met each other. While I have a feeling if you hit the front at the top of the stretch and some of these Breeders Cup races, you know who probably be looking over at you. So we listen to the best of luck. We look forward to those battles. Thank you so much. Mr.. Van Dyke for a few minutes. Yeah, no problem, anytime. Thank you. Thanks to Drayton Van Dyke Luiz car Bohol though. The Breeders Cup is a celebration of the best from around the world. You could put together a pretty good event made up of courses who won't be there for one reason or another. Is there a bigger message being sent justify, of course, with sold for seventy five million dollars. If you'd bought him, would you risk him getting hurt? But others like unique, Bella alpha, centurion Saxon warrior were injured. So for now they are inert Haskell winner. Good magic is set to have a few minor issues while the two year old Instagram does completely sound yet. Neither will race again this year. So forget the Breeders Cup. Are there any sturdy horses to be found? I know horses are fragile and you can't rely on one to market racing because you never know, but durability and finances, Sweden, the life out of the sport for fans and bettors alike. This is a mighty blow. You can get us on our YouTube channel by searching in the gate podcast. You can get us on soundcloud as well. Get us at the I tune store tune in dot com. You can get us on that little pink Pont catcher app on your phone. You didn't even know you had and now you can subscribe to win the gate in the listen tab of the ESPN app for the full limited experience of scribe. Now, in the listen tab of the ESPN app, and you can follow me on Twitter at be Abrams voice or on Facebook at Barry Abrams voice. That's in the gate for this week. I'm Barry Abrams. We'll see you next time.

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S1E19: Blitz Magazine Podcast | Boycott the Olympics - Why No African Americans should participate | Tyson vs Fury | NFL CBA

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S1E19: Blitz Magazine Podcast | Boycott the Olympics - Why No African Americans should participate | Tyson vs Fury | NFL CBA

"We're back just to push my pockets. You'll be wait. Wait wait susceptible. Stay in the building. Y'All sponsored this you know what I'm saying aside. More to to goddess clock where all day prayers you know where. I'm at no. I missed you guys on Wednesday dropping. Something a little Saturday so good enough so I'm still fighting. I'm so fired up right now because because I'm still buzzing from the anti wilder and Tyson fury I mean I'm not going to. I mean I was. I was really excited about this fight. I was really excited about possibly as I said No. Prior to fight you think about it these were the two best heavyweights fighting in prying and maybe twenty twenty five years like it's been a long time since we had a heavyweight fight as big as this the last one that was even coach entice. It wasn't in his prime with Tyson. Lewis Maybe Lewis Holyfield as I said before. We're talking twenty twenty five years. I mean listen. It did not live up to the height. I mean let's be Real Tyson. Fury dominated the fight. He dominated fight in in some of the things that I saw. In the first fight came to fruition in this fight here and let me break down the fight and the way. I saw it the first world. I thought wilder came out aggressive. I thought he made a quick right. Try to get you know. But fury shook it off. I think he very clearly and what he started doing was again as I said before. He started pouring at big white van and his. Here's the deal. Fury is a natural lusty so when he throws the left Jack Stone that that's a very natural position for foreign. He's off the docks by design. He's really a South Pole so think about it. He's really someone his leave strongest. He's furious conflict on his strongest hand out constant and that's his job so again. What what what's in. The first night was the one thing that I saw. That really by wilder was the fact that Jerry tremendous and strife with that long Jad it was just like poppy. Minutes face either. Doesn't seem like it's hard. It's hard because his strong hand. It says he's William South Pole. That was taught the fort fight in Orthodox style wondering if wilders can't win into this fight with that type of thinking but fury said that he was gonNA lean on Water. He was gonNA pressuring the one thing that we also discussed. Begotten Wilder fury fight was the fact that wowed needs space to bombs. He lunges and he leans. If your idea was I'm bigger than him. I got a cut off his entrance points. So why the Caitlyn? Those big looping rights so he will he did was he constantly stepped in he constantly. Pushing back don't WANNA big stiff every left-hand hands at then come back with. The bike leans on Wilder Lanza punches. Balances Brother had no answers in this fight. The first male. Even you know that the second round I gave it to Wildlife Wider Lens clean practice but it was a close coast round and the fight in round three win the tie turn when a fury otherwise say prince behind the head. No it was much on the side of the head that really open wilder up and his legs were shaky the entire night now. I don't WanNa go go through the entire fight but the bottom line is after that punch to fight change right hand that landed on the side of the head magna bracket hit on the side of it. That's a heavy weight punch by a guy who's standing at six nine two hundred seventy four pounds. That's a big big man. And why does the big do and I thought going into the fight? You know being six seven to thirty actually good for him because he was fighting such a big man fighting a guy at two twelve sixty pounds. Who's this guy? I didn't think that was the right bill. I'm actually thinking about being bigger was a good strategy. But he was still steph. Just looked so much. More fluid water had no game plan. He went back in two hundred quarter. And it's couldn't give you nothing. They get nothing. Here's the buster drum or at least a gash on his ear. Don't even tell me what's the cut me over there. They were just complete all by fury's just ability just to dominate. The guy in the whole team was in was in total shock. Everyone can you with? The referee was trying to get water. Umbro like what's going on like no one could believe the dominance of Tyson fury and if I am the dominant started around three it continue around. It continued in round. Four five and six were this to the point where we are spelt baffled. Everyone just horrible for him because he was just gonna hit everything and then it was one body punching the seven actually with the body punch to body punches in the six round maybe one or two good body punches in the fifth round that really start to talk to rack while does lay but with a buddy point the really took him in the seven Kudos to Fox sports to Fox. Espn and all their affiliates to everyone who moved the fight. I'LL HEYMAN PBC. Bob Arum top ranked schools to all those that was a tremendous tremendous tremendous promotion. And guess what that's what the sports need. That's what the sport knee don't worry about. Sometimes you gotta invest a little bit. Don't worry about me money. I think they're going to break even on this deal end and to then that the value of the sport is in total eyeballs being watched. That's where the value comes in at because one point million people actually bought it. Westbound is kind of hoarding. Espn there's a saint about fifty but if even if it's in between you know eight fifty one point two million two million people watch that fight and let's just say the average people. The average person who watched it within a venue is at least ten. So now we're talking about you know coach. The two hundred million people I mean twenty million people watching the fight doubt guarantee it's probably closer to fifty million people watching the fight you know. It's probably close to fifty million people based off the ugly who streaming. But that's good for boxing. That's that's actually good. It's good that even though you didn't get all the money you got all the eyeballs and that over time translates the money it does it. Does it helps people invest more into your sport so when people click on ESPN and they are not pay on those pages and they see those pays us. They know that you know what we got to put some more in the box. We gotTA invest some money into boxing. Because is driving traffic. So don't worry about getting on money. You got enough of the money all right so what does well to do. I mean first of all after the fight if you're and while we're both gracious in victory and defeat than they were very gracious. I mean I mean fury. I mean no Fury Gay Water. His like his product for being you know a warrior and And you know what to say you know. Tonight was the night if he he's a hundred percent right on the entire eighteen collapsed the entire. Whitewater bomb squad freaking collapsed. I wanted I wanted to curse on Chris on curse curse. I mean really. Let's get so let's get into the actual stoppage and the fight. Because it's controversy as well for fight that was so dominant it so many layers to this freaking. Thanks so why. Don't why does taking a beating a baby? And even when the tunnel was being actually thrown while the storm a hopeless punch looking beatdown batter defeated and like all great warriors. They WANNA go out on the field. I not me out. Finish me off Margaret Brennan former. Go Meta this Olympic boxing. Champion welterweight champion saw wilder. He is in his corner. He knew the team wasn't prepared or during the course of the game plan was wasn't going to work he sees his guy giving destroy. He sees man bleeding from the ear. He's he actually witnesses. His fighter stumbling all over the ring pounded in the corner. By man who six nine hundred seventy pounds. He was defenseless. You fight another day brother. Food Italian was too late to early. Listen you have stopped the fight honestly in the six in the fifth round. Wto was flopping all over the ring. He wasn't even apprentice. And you're the president in several steam. Just he was just taking big shots so I mean brilliant going out there making that call seems to be the right thing like I haven't heard one person say that wasn't the right thing now. A single analysts said. I wasn't my thing because you all saw what we saw so frustrated. He's humiliated fury white. Man Destroys the battered black man on the planet. Do you know how long why people have been waiting for this moment forever. They they got the picture like in every white barber shop. There's going to be a pitcher. Tyson fury whipping. Wild is is seriously every every night? Said it's going to be in people's homes like remember when we beat. Wow does that you know what I'm saying dislike crazy actual fight right you got you got the American board like the actual fight. You have white Americans right singing the national anthem but rooting for the British guy. Not even rooting for the America. That's the tell you everything. Everything why they rooting for the American. The Black Guy. I'm telling you long waiting for that picture. Hundreds of years hundreds of years White Mane with a like literally hooking up to them with the put a side of the head. That's one hundred. Yes yes you know how long it's going to take the comeback. I'm trying to tell you. May We can't can't take no more losses for right now. We can't take office. You can take us back to cents back no move. I mean Dan got hold up. What the does it felt like. I was caused shit. Thought right roots. May We've never seen no. We never seen that in a No no no no no not that big you. I'm not talking about ricky knocking out some British bull from puppy. I ain't talking about that kind of adds Whitman. I'm talking about the biggest fight and boxing to baddest men in the world. The Brion Number. Move the well see. That's the difference. Crisco was watching Chris. Go at the belt but for some reason because he was rushing he wasn't connected now but CRISCO was before it's Tom because right now and could co is around right now. He'll be so much begging. You wish the United States you have Russian critical being White House. Everything spy all right. So where do we go from here and I forbear light water almost like wilder I? Because he's such an interesting character in this sport is a unique bird and he's fun so active fi after he gets stitched all up ice on the face and get a couple of days to think about what the hell happened. He comes out and talks about his wardrobe. About how about how he He he got their suit and the suit was was was like. You know forty five pounds. The suit with forty five pounds and you know he had to walk over to. He didn't he didn't realize how much I was going away on them. But here's the deal this actual video of. Wow they're talking about how he he actually trains with a forty five pounds. Come on Man. Stop it at the receipts out there when you broke the bomb squad receipts out there. So don't say that man to say that you didn't have your legs. Don't don't even bring the costume. It's cool to be a Yoma grades weren't right. I don't know why didn't feel right but when gotten ring I didn't have got to go back and feel like wow wasn't my best but I'm not gonNA blame the soup. Then you get upset at mark about wanting to die in the ring and I get that Bro. You know man. Wow this is the quintessential tough guy right you. Putting any heard in the world he gonNA come out Possibly be tough this dude Samoans. You know what I'm saying do condon's Nicaraguans Wilders. Probably coming out Chang. Any of those any of these top bloods crips. Don't don't really matter. You put water any section of any. He'll probably come out the toughest so we'll tell you that. He wants to die on hisself. I mean that's where his makeup is so he honestly probably no he really believes. But that's not the job of the referee. The refugee re is for you. Not The don jail or on your cornerman. They're not the what they don't WanNa seem down to the job. Let's see you fight another day. So why Bremer his cornermen Bruin you know possibly win a fire him and all that know what needs to be saying as my strategy was overall. I gotta go back and be viewed as in and be viewed as fight and just watched how I perform. Something wasn't right in terms of how we put our game plan together and you know I gotta go back to the Jumbo. Very was the better fighter. So let's get into so not a species on deontay wilder side. Because you know the bottom line is he was furious dominated you now while the has the right tour. An immediate rematch. That can be done as early as late as the guy possibly August Bob. Arum said they're willing to even push back into Timber but while does furious so hot right now that fury wants to go straight to Anthony Joshua which is the right thing to do which is just the right thing to do but back to wilder of our wildest. Can't I'll be like take that fight I want a rematch or put it like this. I want I want I want. I want a guarantee that I fight the winner. I'll take your fury after Josh Aso. That fight still going to happen. Knock this boy out. And then I come back and get fury his his third fight this shit out once. I mean like you know Joshua losses belt to a wreath and they gave him a chance to win his belt right back now. If you WANNA take you WANNA rush. Fury wants to rush and take this next fight with Aj. Then I'll fight fury again at the end of the year. I'm willing to I'm going to step. I'm going to step aside you know compensated but I need to win. That fight guarantee needs to be a deal between all three networks zone with AJ ESPN quick fury in PBC. No let foreign both let form Voltron and subtle this heavyweight shit once and for all boom the winner once. I'M NOT AJ out. I'm not our fight fury again or fury win with us. Go right back into that one. The Porn. I'm trying to make the entrepreneurs. He should not rush right back into the second fight with Tyson. I think he needs some time to to recalibrate his is. I can't say style. He's not going to change his style but he needs to find his skill set sorta way. Aj did against we's like he had to refine his skill. Set A bit. I if you look at the wildfire Dave ain't going with us with any type of game plan under then throw the right hand lane. The big right. Everything's about away. Let go you want the second punch tune in you have to go in there and set that punch up a new so I think they have to recalibrate his whole I was. I think he just needs some time off. He needs to just to be calibrate everything to everything. He fought to tough fights. Despite sales. You want in not out in November but that was a tough fight. He went right back into the biggest fight of his career against wilder. He needs some time off. He needed his body. He doesn't think it because he's because he's a warrior by his body is wearing down he needs some time off. So let fury take this fight guarantee me the winner and fight that fight in the fall take off about six months men get your mind right out as for Tyson fury the right thing to do is go straight to the fight. Go Straight to the. Aj fight I know AJ supposedly supposed to fight Knipe who love I get all that? That's not the fight no one wants to see. Aj wants to fight. Fury wants to fight. Fury wants to fight. Is the next biggest fight in boxing. Make just make it. Let's settle the heavyweight shit once and for all. This is great for the sport of boxing. This is this exactly what the sport of boxing needs exactly. Let's let's let's all the networks work together in a Man. What you guys can really do it. Star crossed promoting of the big fights. This is how this is how you experience this how you expand sport seriously. Tom To get smart with this. It was my pockets. Got Where Radio Vosper Talk. I case you haven't heard in case you haven't heard the NFL an NFL. Players Association is trying to work on new. Cba and just don't understand. I understand how a is this week in his narrow minded as one as the NFL player's associations this agreement. I'M NOT GONNA. It's a so insulting from from a technical standpoint is I would just fire. I was if I was any of the players are fired. More Smith immediately the votes would be like to fire this guy because first of all basically the NFL is is humiliating. The Professional Athlete. Basically saying it for one more game. We're going to allow you to smoke week. I'm selling to tell you if you wanna you know if you wanNA smoke we you gotTA play a game. That's ridiculous. I don't get why. Seventeen Games is so important to the NFL. Why do is revenue right? They are somehow stay somehow. Promising these networks that they're gonNA give him eighteen weeks football so instead of giving the players extra week off with a with an extra by the owners are so greedy that they want to add an extra game. They are so content on making this an eighteen week fiasco if I'm the players. There's there is zero movement on on the seventeen on the sixteen season. That's it that's it. That's it no other books. Sports League is adding gangs. Every Sports League is talking about reducing games. You're the only one the most violent sports league of all the sports leader. You're the only talking about adding games adding games to NBA talking about reducing Games bait reducing gangs and H. L. Reducing Games. Nfl Increasing Games. The player talk about reducing things. Wrestling's no the president. I know we're not. We're not saying less game. No more games. Well cool. Sixteen sixteen is perfect. Why can't they go to an extra bye week because they wanna make the revenue from this charge more? Just charge more money for the tickets. The people go to the Games. You know what that paid X. picks allows most of them in the trust. Me This discharge more for the damn tickets just out a fan you charge twenty percent more for tickets. Stop using the players. And if I'm if I'm the prayers. The owners need to go out tariff Dan. We're going to charge you. Twenty percent more for tickets. Why because you could you you don't WanNa dig into your costs. You don't WanNa dig into your revenues. You WanNa you WanNa have US expensive that you already talking about like injuries with us. And we're only talking about brain injuries. And Not Test in opioids and addiction in all these other factors and you want to add more trauma to the body. It makes zero sense. Sixteen Games to be a cutoff right then and there. That's I don't know why everybody is so big up in four preseason games you know what keep the for. Preseason games the The stars don't play joint anyway. The young guys. They need erupt. Keep the four games. Make be off the fourth game. Who gets the thing because it while the fans don't WanNa see praising seek for preseason games give kids for kids donate to the damn schools or some shit like that charges? Are Some things you guys can do. That's a damn tax. Write off the chronic. Now keep the preseason came big freaking deal. We don't need them when we only something games do all night. So you know Guzzlers Rachel Secratary so for the what four current agreement right so the current agreement might the NFL get forty seven percent of the League generated revenues which I need to explain to that a bit to get forty seven forty seven percent currently now but for seventeen for seventeen game season the NFL is only increasing? That to forty eight. Point five percent. So you are literally talking about increasing your only increasing the prayers revenue by one point. Five percent the play one extra game. That makes no sense that it is logically doesn't make any sense logically that just doesn't make any sense you know. So how can how can sixteen games represent forty seven percent but one extra game only represents one point five percents that makes sense like mathematically? It's just ignorant is flawed and I'm not even talking like major political. Sit here this from the minimum is just wrong tomorrow. Smith if I'm a player and I'm talking to the more Smith you what are you going bro? Like what are you doing so someone I think to a Taylor joy tail. She made a very good point. She said if they went seventeen games than than offer players healthcare for life then the benefits and. This deal are much better than they did before. It's the same you know. A couple of doctors visits themselves like that. But it's pretty much the same the same thing they get the prayers for have more rights to choice of of physicians and things like that the NFL is letting smoke marijuana more. Big freaking Dell the revenue all screwed up they I mean. Is it going to be a tenured? Tenure deal have a chance to renegotiate wants to balance of. I mean is this. We got no leaks sign. No sports we used to have a deal longer than five years period. Renegotiate it right after four. Tenure deals are just just an absolute no no sixteen seventeen games Schedules is a no no now. They want to expand the playoffs to to upset with that. I'm Kinda cool that that. That format doesn't matter thing adding extra playoff game. So there's really no reason to ask Seventeen Games. Keep the four gain. Preseason starters don't play the preseason. I'm fine with that in the fourth game. You know what I'm saying like that's okay but don't add games regular season now if you want to add one extra playoff team game and I'm like the format now the best I think the format now was perfect six. I I love twelve teams. I love the two team by. But he's make it if you just want to get the the number one seed the bottom for that to annex for that it just makes the number one seed like you just can't large. You gotta go for that. Number one see is worth an extra week so it makes me a little bit more competitive at the top and at the bottom. I'm I'm not against that. I'm not against the NFL. Trying to expand this season. Two Presidents Day. I've said this three years ago on this park on this pot that do you know the The NFL trying to expand the League to two presidents. Thank you can do that if you add an extra bye week sixteen game season and possibly start the NFL two weeks after Labor Day. You can do it. That's cool you know. I mean that's fine. No one's going to stress. No you can have football on. You know preseason game number for this you have one. Every team gets one week to prepare prior to the START IN SEASON. So the preseason. We'll be over you. You want to stay in the anticipation because teams will have extra week of practice. Guys going to be ready in that first game you know have you. Don't have to worry about teams not being crisp and not being prepared. Because teams have four camp and I have a full week with their starting team with this starving 53-man Walston starting to deeply man roster for week prior to their first game that I love that idea. So it's it's ways to shiftily is ways to push the dates but there's no need to games so besides ought the money besides the fact that you know they're trying to games and you know the benefits aren't really that much better why are the players so interesting instill signing this deal which the more Smith believes is going to parents Sometimes like sometimes next next week when the four contingency of players goal to vote. Here's the reason. Is that players at the bottom will make a lot more guys at the bottom of roster are GonNa make possibly extra two hundred and fifty thousand per contract. But that doesn't help a guy who actually liked Fletcher Cox or or like a pack of Padma homes. That Prescott will Aaron Rodgers. Tom Brady that. Two hundred and fifty grand is nothing like they're actually making less per game. In Seventeen Games are for sixteen. That's what I'm that's what I'm saying. The players under this agreement technically are making less money per game. Only the people act the very bottom are benefiting even the middle class guys even guys who make a million a year or you know You know one point five that extra. Two hundred and fifty grand is not equivalent to your average salary. So why would you want that? Why would you vote for that? Think is real simple. Fellows is real simple. If it's about the money keep it that we keep it that way you if you even consider the seventeen games which is ridiculous but segments. I want my average game paycheck as the as the same too. So when that occurs that means the prayers going to get somewhere near fifty to fifty three percent of the revenues. That's what a number really should be somewhere around fifty three to fifty five percent. Yes because that's basically TV merchandise money things like that. The place on anything from the stadiums that's all revenue from. That's all the revenue generating a Ford team. That's why they went the extra games because they get the players. Get Zero Dollars from that. But if I'm the players you gotTA stand firmly not GonNa keep Griffin off of us and then still no mention of how cabinet was blackballed and how these types of social discrepancies are going to be here. He Steven Stuttering handle from a judicial standpoint. I'll be going to have a what type of third party betrays for. You know serious offenses. And what's going on? So all of these things should be stuffed into the CBA and it should be also technologically driven in terms of revenue from different revenue streams. Outside of what's currently thought about as you know leak revenue generated revenues. Let's say for example the NFL hire a kid and he just became like this. The Eagles hired a kid and he he became like this fanatical. I giggle span right. And he started getting like like twenty million youtube hits right and the eagles are generating tons of dollars through this kid but they're probably paying an getting a piece of the revenue. The players may not get any of that. But the kidding don't fucking here. Make no tackle the handful. He's on Youtube. Talk Shit unless that's the same with You know he got his own triple zero number. He's like not number one eagles fan in the Eagles Hall. Emotion around this kid bub-bubba load up. We don't get your fucking thinking. Come on come on. He's got fucking thinking on the in the NFL PA really thinking first of all. I really think the NFL the owners are going to give you get the best deal they give you the first damn what owners so rushed to get deal done or the NFL pays are. We can can a deal be adjusted based based upon the new TV contracts coming up and how the revenue is going to be split in disseminated. Thinking I would find the Moore Smith immediately. You have an entire year to get this done. You don't have to get it done now. You don't have to get it done now. You don't have to get done now. Get some good representation. Get a second opinion initial get a second opinion. Give it to your lawyers. Give it to you an agent center to your attorneys. Whatever they're sending you give it to your presentation and tell them. Is this a good deal? This don't take it's like A. It's like a second opinion if they said like you got a dislocated shoulder no matter gotta know. Ac Joint Ninety. Whatever talk got Tom Tommy John or whatever I'm saying so the players need to be much smarter and way more shrewd the the owners? It has to be a reason why they are rushing to get this deal done. So quickly has to be descends. I Dunno I just you know. I don't understand how a player union can be so weak and they generate so much money I don't I don't understand how they can't understand what what what their value is. Let's let's put it like this for a second the xfl right. I mean for the first few weeks I gotta say I'm a family the XFL. I think some of the innovations of Rivoli smart even kickoff one. I'm not crazy about the kickoff one but it safer. I love the idea that a team has never out of it. You can go for one three two or three depending if you're a guy to to to follow the ten I love the fact that You know I I mean I just I mean I'm not crazy about the one foot rule. I'm still a fair to foot down the NFL. On I. I like the fast clock. I think that's good I will I think it's time for the NFL to actually speed up their car. I think Thirty five is too much time Because you want because I think the thirty five in the NFL to me. It gives the Office of coordinator too much time to make a decision for the quarterback prior to snap. No look look for your back or not. Cut this shit off man. Like let's let's cut that down to like basically he could give you to play. He got fifteen seconds to give you the play. You have ten seconds to get the playoff. It's all good. I'm this fight on this rockstar. All right so It's a story about box to take all right but So I'm assuming that the xfl to me is this a solid product in? I always felt as though see. I was NFL. Europe Fan. Because I always felt there's a level of quality football between college and pro at least for me the die hard fan at least for me a guy who enjoys watching spring football. You think what I'm saying like I'm ex. I'm like I'm a rough touch Guy Llosa I can always go out and either watch a good football game. I'm just I'm just a fan of the sport and they're always talent. That's that's that's overlooked in this case the best player so far in a xfl has been a kid who went to temple for his own. Pj Walker and someone told me a Birdie who's on this show name and re hunt football game playing sat out to them he said PJ Walker every chance to be a starter had never lose the job. He said this can throw the ball so many different ways like the way he can just fit the ball into tight spots and Damn Yo. Pj Walker is probably the MVP of the XFL so far and just the game was just funding. I mean it's not perfect You know I don't have. I don't have to watch every single play but I'm because I'm always finding players that I'm always fine president. Oh Shit I know what I'm saying so like you know it's this fun to see guys that that you've actually fouled and you know a little bit about their careers and sometimes you. You may not know why I give you an example of Kidding Kenny Robertson right. He went to West Virginia. I Freshman first team all big twelve and He got into little bit of trouble with his grave and things like that so he was trying to transfer but West Virginia was blocking it or some. It was some miscommunication there. I want to say too much too much but he said F it. I'm going to the XFL. He gets drafted. He's on the field he's making plays. He's actually playing. He's he's draft eligible. That's game changer. Because let's say for example. You have a five star high school quarterback he wants to make you know two hundred thousand dollars a year and I'm going to tear the xfl up. And then I can go pro the next year or am I stay here and just make you know a half a million dollars from the age of nineteen twenty one or three for three for three years in Bingo pro then announce a Gopro or let's say a Congress player who's this renowned and say you know what I'm here I'm going I'm planning the the the xfl I mean. That changes everything. The only thing about the XFL. That I don't like for room. Is that a black person. Don't own it. I mean for real. If you want to talk about you know changing the game is only only. I didn't understand why if Jimmy. Meh To form the exit fell why Jay z. Diddy could inform their version of the same type of pride. My pride of that but see his wet so it's not going money bye-bye but now first of all is possibly that you could make bread off of it to what you become is a different outlet Athletes who might feel as though at this present time that they don't have an outlet other than college football to the professional football. So if you have a kid who who feels as though. He's being exploited at a Michigan Michigan. State Penn State Nebraska Oklahoma Clemson Alabama. Now he has another outlet to say you know what I wanna make something for us. I WanNa make some money for myself especially if like the players know straight up. If they're getting something from an academic standpoint they know so if if a prayers to become like a like a biologist or a chemist or other kind of profession key needs to be in college to pursue that ultimate goal or that long term goal than stay in college. But if this all about the money and you just want to get a chance to go straight to the pros so you can still eat and help your family and do whatever you WanNa do still play competitive football the now you have another outlet you have another resource. I mean it was bound to happen. And if you get that five star studded Q. Qb who the decides to for Life Forgo College and Palea xfl. This is going to hype up the week. The second travel aren't said you know what I'm not gonNA play in For Percussion XFL team. They offer me a million dollars to play this year. They're like why not do that? Like why not play for the million? I don't know I'm just saying this is what the exit fell has. Just become is an outlet for players who don't WanNa follow the traditional path to becoming a professional and they can call this unique market here because trust me. There are tons of kids on tons of teens. Who May feel as though if I had another option I just might choose. It wasn't a pockets. Got Were Radio. We go way beyond what we're talking about. Let's talk let's go. Aj the negotiations between me. Jay has actually stalled at a standstill. I can't go up on the numbers. I just can't do it on Alice. I got a big list of day. So Oh my gosh swap. What okay so I guess. Everybody's heard about the corona virus and the Olympic Games are in Tokyo this year. As of right now the I. O. C. Says Games are going as planned however this virus is starting to spread right now and to this government can give every professional American athlete assurances that they will be immensely protected and they have a plan are true plan to protect. I wouldn't step foot on no plane. No Win because what this administration has proven is that they can't Hindu sit where any type of dignity or all respect. If I'm a black athlete no I'm GONNA put my life in the hands of a young. It's no way it's no way from a Brian James. I'm a have a forty five no protecting my life. Hell no crazy Simone biles tracy. What would you trust US Administration to protect you? Why would any black athletes trust this administration to protect? You is crazy. This is insane this is going. This is no no. I'm going like okay. This so what are saying so where the scientists saying. How can I get this science? I'm dead serious. The government doesn't either believe in science. They believe ideology. It's totally different thing. Would they restricted to study? The other is what somebody thinks. That's an ideology is what I think. Oh Yeah I don't think you know it's going to be. I think it's going to be a think will like the weather gets warm is to kill the virus. April I guess so. Why would a professional athlete? Who who whose body is the ultimate temple if it makes them who they are why they actually white black otherwise. Schwab Administration with their body. What a source is can this administration give him a frigging prints on duct? They know they have nothing. They have nothing. They had several. This government had proven talked to prepare. Puerto Rico talk to them about how this government protected him trump to the soldiers who who who who Turkey sold out is not the same dissident normal people will say. Oh don't mix sports accurate. Don't mean sports in politics the Olympics. Guess what this all sports in politics. That's what it's all about. That was always way back to ever ever been talking about sports and politics. I'm just saying I know I know. Athletes are disappointed about not wanting to represent your country and Blah Blah Blah. But these times aren't normal in this country is not representing you. They can't figure out a way to protect you. How can you represent it? Why would you represent something? The has no indications listen. How can you represent something? That is even not even focused upon protecting you. If they were serious you know about it. This is the people that put in place. The tone they don't care they're banking on you to disappoint it anyway. Why would you want to support a man who believes in the things that he says as a black man as a woman of color? Why would you WANNA put on? Us A and that's the person who is the leader of your country so you are pretty much endorsing these ideology. This ridiculousness less ness in the White House. Unless you do something political like life put. Us A in a black stripe acrostic. This is Dan that's gone to the White House. Represent America in in this world now is not really a cool thing isn't and that's where you need black people that need to have some self awareness. I know it's easy to say. I know it's easy for me to say people trying to hold off for this one moment. It's not about me saying it's about the people who are there to protect the people who are making the sacrifices they don't respect the athletes who are making sacrifices. Because if they did they wouldn't say the things. They say they wouldn't do things they do. They wouldn't keep trying to this honor people they wouldn't keep trying to break laws. They can win. Keep trying to you know. Cook a corrupt. The you know they went to keep trying to cover up processes institutions that that impact all communities not just black communities for all communities. They WANNA take away from healthcare education. Social programs come on. You can't be a part of that. You can't be proud. That's what you're selling when you sell. Usa what else. I got a mile journey. I gotta go this. I gotta go. I can't stay long. I gotta go okay. Hold on hold on this podcast radio. One last thing. The Kobe memorial was amazing. Michael Jordan was just outstanding seeing the go put his his heart out there for everyone to see is always beautiful. It only happens once. Every thirty s watching Vanessa. Bryant was just you know the pillar of strength and black women saddle to Pam Joe Bryant? Who really didn't acknowledged as as much but they should get credit for building. Kobe into the man. Everybody is out here. Celebrating this podcast. Gaca radio we go way way down. I smart people standing a Belgian man. I'm done I'm out. I JUST WANNA get that off my chest. Do did it again. This podcast got radio. We go way way around with people saying things to say you gotTa Hustle Heart or hustled your ass home. Does the PODCAST radio because way way way way way beyond whistle o? B. Spot killed?

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Luis Carvajal Interview - December 21, 2019

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

12:34 min | 8 months ago

Luis Carvajal Interview - December 21, 2019

"Big Victory for imperial Hinchey returns later this afternoon in the grade three Mr Prospector. At Gulfstream Park. After the disappointment of having to scratch the morning warning of the Breeder's cup sprint at Santa Anita. I know that that was heart. Wrenching for our next guest. Who is his trainer? Luis carvajal junior and and he's with me down here on the Horse Racing Radio Network Louis. Good morning one in. Hey how are you. I'm great. How are you my friend? I'm doing I'm great. I can't wait for the way. Yeah you have to be excited to get the big horse back in action. Six years old. He's been so good to you Es so much heart as you heard leary coma sane his call of the Vaas Berg and now he gets a chance to kind of get back on track after what happened at Santa Anita. Let's start there for a second talk about that. In the disappointment of being so close to the Breeders Cup again one of the favorites in there and all of a sudden he comes up with an issue the morning of the race. Yeah well you know. I'm trying to leave that behind me. you definitely would discipline it. I really wanted to take another shot up the I'm Totally quite Yeah like I said before. You're not just leaving behind and If looking forward for the next day they will have planned for him. Yeah as a trainer when you experience a you know we talked about a lot. The highest highs the lowest lows in thoroughbred racing. You're on a high. After winning the Vosper get to Santa Anita. Everything's going great. You're still on a high and then something like that happens. And you're at the bottom of the heap again. How do you keep your emotions in? Check in in stay focused and keep moving forward. Louise how do you do it. You know I I you know the the good thing was I know my heart you were doing good and I know I was GonNa have chances again to to see him run and then and perform as well. They've been You know it's it's hard but you know when you have at least you had the support of Your family behind you and every inch. So it's you know we think this way feed that happened and the Horse got scratch. You know happens for a reason and I always blue so a good reason But yeah what a look see and run them there but you know no. It's been happening for a reason. And then and and So we go back and regroup and I worked good and a couple of weeks after and and I like what I see and then the hopefully in looking forward for next year and And and see what he does. I mean right right now. It's very happy the way the votes have been training and I. It doesn't seem like it's slowing down at all. So that's what he gives me go on and let's see you know I have had the born and of course it's been very hence they once and it's still looking forward to see my other horses run so yeah it is what it is and we'll see what happens today. Yeah I think after having scratch from the Breeders Cup it just made him mad mad because all he's done is come back and fire bullet workouts for you in every workout sense. The Breeders Company comes into the Mr Prospector will in what looks like looks to be great form arm. How good was his summer Lewis when he wins the the AG Vanderbilt. He wins the Vosper. How good was that summer? You can ask for any better For Hen been taken to such a great urinate you know and I mean every trying to. I think he wants something like this to happen. This summer was unbelievable to break a track record in in Saratoga Fide. That say about how the track it was plain plane that day and You know it's it doesn't happen to anybody too many people just breaking the track record and Saratoga I guess so which he'll get a little crazy that has been getting a deserve more credit by special about that race. You you know but that's a dream come true for for trainer you know especially when we don't have all the stock the many others they have so that's why we gather every day in the morning and we try try and we try and to to get host like this one. That's where he keeps everybody else every training it's more stable to to get going forward. You Know Yeah Yeah and you knew he won the AG Vanderbilt. There was no doubt about that. Not only did he set the record but he won by four. The great one vosper is we just heard. It was a bit more narrow of a margin winning by a just a nose just a nostril really and game heart whatever. Whatever you WANNA use to describe imperial hint? He showed it all in the stretch. Run that day did you know. Did you know that he got his nose to the wire. I or were you in doubt a little little bit No I you know what I was standing. I was watching the race. You know it's you know I. It was not sure if one day race but when I saw I have here before the race and we know that students fire with Jason Service. I've Belmont Park Donnie. Love that tracking every time you see Prince. Why run my Alma? You see the way he fires all the time he loves that track so I told him you know you gotta be careful the only speed and I think my kind of got a little bit of federal in the front end and when I saw him coming back and Si- shy and and he got a big heart. Actually I think he's harder than his body because the little rock talking but He has so much heart and translated a great horse to. It's really nice course and you love them and so But I really think that that that raise. Ah I was really happy that he wanted imports. Attend race E- each set in my really good for the brisk. I was happy that he got to do something because I think last last year in two thousand eighteen when he won the boss boy he just He wants so easy greer down and I didn't think that helped him much before he went the British government. So everything was I it was. It was just great to die fighting to win the race and instead they set him up. Good is in like you say it's been great. Since then I've been training superstars and like I said unfortunately that has happened A Santa Anthony W I I I really wanted to prove that Inferior and could have won that race or the Cup to even know the mentally. I mean He. It's it's I think it's a great course. He become really nice course especially in the mouth but I think it would mean a lots of people and and to to see that the imperial hand it could I think if we couldn't raise him the Base Cup it would have been close. I think I would have when ray so but you know that it's right now I'm just like I said we gonNA leave behind us and And look forward over for this race and then hopefully we'll have a great twenty twenty and then we'll definitely probably would be looking at the back. Some tire tire for Impro- it's been great to us. Who gave him the nickname the little rocket? You know the little rocket I think you came from last year. Doxa may from Larry Combs and he goes. I think he wants you know the racket I think he wanted to call him the rocking man but they thought maybe some conflicts with the the from from Elsa John but since then it's been yeah we always go in little rock now. That's the thing you know you mention by the way talking with Louis Kara. How junior the trainer of imperial hint going to the post and the grade? Eight three Mr prospector today. You mentioned that you wanted a shot at Matola in the Breeder's cup sprint. Who wouldn't when you have a horse like imperial hint but you get a rematch with a horse? Who defeated you in Dubai? Three starts ago back in March. And that's x y jet and he's a much like forensic fire was Douaumont. He's a horse. That loves Gulfstream Park Tell me about that rematch. Coming up later this afternoon you know what I wasn't. I WANNA ten. ooh I wasn't expecting ex wife get running Jorge Caro- caught me by surprise but I I think it's I think it will. I mean it's it's you know you have a couple of horse have been ups and everything I mean. It's it's it's it's became to be a one hundred thousand dollar raise I I think it's salty very salty. Feel and but going back to the idea the I I run the by against him. I didn't think I had the best decision. That either and I the race then. The bell the way we wanted to but I think thing to me. Maybe x-ray Jid in my horse You know we we're GONNA put a good show and I hope like you say you know it's like car racing and drivers. You know we will always wanted the best it'd be horse and and we we But at the end we always wanted to be an definitely I wanna be yet and I definitely want everybody else but as horse racing. That's why he's so beautiful by this about the sport that it's never a short thing you can be the money and you can see Luther rates once a gate open You you know every everything can change but I think I have a good shot. You Know X. Y. J. had some Golden Shaheen and it might need this race he's Seven pool until soot him and at the same weekend sat on my horse. Even know that one over seventy eight but that was as long time ago with different kinds of horses. So you know it's see how detracts GonNa play today and and but I would definitely would like to see my horse. Yeah Yeah Imperial Hint three for five at the seven furlong distance x y jet for three at that seven for long distance. And so I think from that standpoint. The edge goes to imperial hint later this afternoon. Louis before I let you go you if everything goes well today. What are the plans moving forward for your six year old star? It'll be surely it'll be seven and and we're would would would that talk it over with miss them mamone and donor for imperial hand and I mean we will be trying to see if we can go to this Saudi Arabia They have race there. Three quarters of one point five million and hopefully everything goes well and that will be the next step in and then we go from therapy for that begin meaning exway Joe Chancellor at the And Dubai over there you have it Louis Kara how junior has trained more than one hundred winners since launching his career here in the United States one hundred winners here in North America and the native of Chile who grew up. The son of a jockey is On a roll and I know that no horse more special than imperial Hinton. We'll see if he can get it done later today in the Mr Prospector. Louis really appreciate the visit here this morning. Thank you so much for taking the time and all the best with the big horse and not just today but moving forward as well. Thank you guys thinking having me other show here and Appreciate it and we need all the publicity we get for December rocketed all the credit. Yeah go get it done my friend. Thank you guys.

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Out of the Gate Episode 84 - Jockey Club Gold Cup Edition

Daily Racing Form

27:42 min | 2 years ago

Out of the Gate Episode 84 - Jockey Club Gold Cup Edition

"Hi, everybody in walking out of the date. Daily racing, Forbes weekend, handicapping preview program. I'm Dan omen. Thanks so much for watching. Here's what's coming up in this week's edition of out of the gate is a super Saturday of racing coast to coast handicapper, Mike beer. I'll take a look at three major grade one races and Breeders Cup preps the jockey club Gold Cup at Belmont, the awesome again, stakes at Santa Anita to important Breeders Cup Classic preps right there. We'll also discuss the Joe Hirsch turf classic at Belmont prepped for the Breeders Cup Turf Nicole. Rousseau's pedigree, pick segment focuses on some well bred maidens and race. Number five. At Belmont on Saturday. While David our gone of time formula spotlights the Joe Hirsch turf classic JK Jonathan kitchens play in the day. Well, he's got to pick three and daily double at Belmont for you plus best pets horses to watch and lots lots more. So let's break out of the game. Kickoff out of the gate with our horse watch segment might bear naira analyst found a first time starter at Belmont that ran off the screen two year old Colt trained by George Weaver by the great candy Reid sire, the horse's name is VO Komai made his debut last week at Belmont Park. Let's take a look at the replay. This horse ran very well. In this race. We're gonna pick it up at the top of the stretch. She cruised up on this field three y through the turn though, and he's just going to pour it on here. Take it over a kick clear. I thought he finished very well in this race. Dan, he'll stop the clock and one in four eighty six Beyer speed figure and source. I might have a bit of a future. His dam was grade one winner sprinting on dirt. This is the family of Mr. Greeley this horse ran really well first time out. I would also point out the horse runs second to them. They're Kelly Breen. First time starter dreamer might be another horse. You wanna keep an eye on that is a race that looks like a key race down the road. And certainly a coma looks like a steak source to follow my horse to watch this week. So ready in the stakes division, that's Axelrod. This is hard to believe that he was offered. Fifty thousand dollars in his second lifetime star is he is turned into a bona fide graded stakes source for trainer. Mike McCarthy. Let's go back to last week's Pennsylvania derby, McKinsey, of course, was one of the big names in this race. We see Axelrod on the outside. He followed MacKenzie through the turn, had a big look at it, turning into the stretch, and he just couldn't stay with McKenzie. Late Bob, Baffert, having McKinsey ready to roll off the layoff. I think a mile in eighth is just a little bit far for Axelrod is son of warriors reward. I really like him at a mile mile and a sixteenth, and I'd love to see him contestants like the greeters Cup, dirt mile or the cigar mile plenty of options for this Mike McCarthy, trainee. However, we might seem in the car candy cap. Heck, we might even see him in a race like the Breeders Cup Classic. That might be too tough, but put this horse in your horse watching stable male because this is the kind of where she might wanna follow his four year old. I think he's going to get better with more maturity. That's Axelrod, a son of warriors reward. Let's get to some handicapping. The jockey club. Gold Cup is the feature race at Belmont on Saturday. Let's throw up the field for Saturday's DR f race of the day. It's the grade one jockey club, Gold Cup, one of four graded stakes races at Belmont on Saturday, this race, part of the Breeders Cup challenge series a win, and you're in for the Breeders Cup Classic for expanded stakes, previews of most of the major graded stakes races all weekend long head on over to video dot dot com, or the daily racing form YouTube channel. We cover every horse in every one of these major stakes races, Mike, diversify four to five on the morning line and deservedly. So we'll get to him in a minute, but I want to talk a little bit about Mendelson who burst onto the scene this year with his win in the UAE derby. A lot of folks thought gold rail, aided, speed bias, aided you one by one hundred. He came in North America. He bombed in the derby. It was at least nice to see him get back on track last time out in the Travers. Yeah, I guess that that is true. When you go back to that you a derby wary, obviously just had everything goes own way and. Was really impressive. Winning as time has gone on since that rates starting to look a little bit more and more dressed up off that race, but it was nice to see him come back in the Travers. We'll look at the replay of that race right now. Then he bounces back with a more respectable effort. Here. He showed his speed which feels like that's the real running style. He wants to employ. He wants to use his speed. He got to the lead and he's just no match for Catholic boy in the stretch here. A lot of ways. Yes, he took a step forward in here, but he also had the run of the racier Dan, he's no match for Catholic boys. Gonna plug on for second. I don't know. This race didn't really do a lot to turn me around on this. I just feel like he's way to toughen arrays like this. Now you mentioned that they like to use his early speed. The problem is he's probably not as fast as the horse to catch and the horse to beat. And that is last year's jockey club, Gold Cup winner, diversify who certainly has not lost a step this year. He's been awesome in his last two, just stretching fields out from start to finish. Yeah, there's no doubt about that. I mean, he was good win in this race last year where he just got to the lead and he held off a couple of pretty good horses at the end of the. Of that race, but he's just come back and he's been even better this year. His last two races in particular are really, really strong. They're legitimately good and fast performances, and both times if feels like they've taken it to a new level with him, I read or tease just lets him role from the start. Let's look at the Whitney right now. This is sort of career defining win for this horse right now. He just went right to the top. And here he went off fast pace from the start and just ran this field out of the race. And you see him still going here over that sloppy, track his win to back over a mile. Gordon suburban same thing, then blasted out of the gate random out of the race held onto the end. He's in career best form right now using career best form. He was unfazed by that long delayed due to the weather. You see that track is soupy big delay, no sweat for diversify. He's the one to catch. She's the one to beat. I'm hoping that Mendelssohn tries to run with them early because I'm going to take a little stab against with thunder. Snow and thunder. Snow might be as dressed up as Mendelssohn by virtue of his win on the Dubai World Cup the same night that Mendelssohn won the UA derby. He was able to get to the lead. He got to the rail and he kept on going. Let's watch the stretch run of the Dubai World Cup showed his speed to stretch out the field turning into the stretch, and he is just much the best over west coast in a pretty decent group thunder, snow while perhaps dressed up by this performance. He has some other races on dirt and Dubai that are pretty good winner of the UAE derby. He's on fortunately, best known for the antics and the Kentucky Derby last year rebasing just refused to run and that's thunder snow. He's a bit of a quirky horse, but I'm hoping Mendelssohn is the horse that shows at least a little bit of speed and tries to push justify, maybe under snow can sit. Third, he's got some good races on dirge will be an okay price, small stab with thunder, snow over diversify, Nicole, Rousseau's pedigree, pick on the jockey club. Gold Cup undercard it's race. Number five. It's a maiden race with some salty pedigrees and Cole's. Got all the info. Everyone Nicole Russo coming for out of the gate to take a look at a really intriguing maiden race on Saturdays, stakes, loaded cart at Belmont Park. Here's the field of two year old Phillies who will go mile on the turf and any discussion of Pat agree in this race has to start with the four Phillies in here by leading turf sire, kitten's joy who's actually currently also leading the general sire list. He's represented here by silver kitten. Tweety kin, sweet timing and blue Jean kitten, the kitten's joys ton to do better with distance. So you have to think that these will occur sheet the mile. Let's spotlight a couple of other. Well, bred horses in this field though. And one of the intriguing first-time starters, Belan rose. A one point, six million dollars yearling purchase making her career debut the warfront Phillies the second full out of the group three winning Galileo Merrill Luth and her first foal also by warfront is a winner. In England. Now, group one winner airwave aloof is a full sister Stakes-winner orator and a half sister to stakes winner meow. Now, meow is the dam of group one winners Churchill and clemmie both by Galileo. So a really productive family cross down there. Good mile and debut a tall order for juvenile, but Valen rose has got a strong work tab end. The distance seems well within her scope from pedigree standpoint, another bread relish the distances tip act, tap it, a full sister to the classy time and motion who you're watching right now in her biggest career win and the great one Queen. Elizabeth. The second Challenge Cup at Keeneland very game in three way photo here. Now tip tap. It should be eligible to rebound of an eighth debut at a yielding Saratoga course. You might get some value because of that finish and she's got the foundation of to turn race under her belt. Unlike some of these others here who are. Debut in at the mile chimp at Tampa, of course, by route sire tap it from a classy classy. 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Ref formulator is the most powerful handicapping tool on the market today. Us what the pros us go to dot com slash formulator and enter code. DR f- TV to get your first card. Free DR f. dot com. Raise your game. Welcome back to the gate. Here's the field for the grade one. Joe Hirsch turf classic invitational, be contested at a mile and a half. But Belmont on Saturday carded as race. Number eight, for expanded stakes, previews of most of the greatest stakes races all weekend long and lots lots more head on over to video dot d. r. f. dot com or the daily racing form YouTube channel. Mike, Robert, Bruce. The number one is the morning line favorite for change. Chad Brown. Coming off a nice win in the Arlington million. This is eight for nine lifetime and listen. He's got fast races and he's proven at a mile and a half. Yeah. I mean, all those things are true. This is the horse who has not run a bad ratio. He's only we've only three times so far North America, but he's run well, all of those races, we'll go back and get you a replay of his stateside debut. This was degrade three, four, MARCY. The pace was slow. You can see him sort of in behind horses. This trip actually works out very well for him, but you'll see him split horses here with the best finish at the end and get up to prevail. The horse right to is outside there. Seven that spring quality also back in this field underrated race here in the fort MARCY off a wide trip, and he's been in good form as well. Both of these horses big contenders in this race, but this is a great field and a lot of horses can win this pace situation is a bit uncertain gonna be unsettling for you because your top selection in this race is a one run closer, eight, talented, one run closer, but anyone closer needs a little help. Yeah, you don't wanna be compromised in races of this quality that's for sure. Sad, joy. My pick is a horse who tends to have things up against up against him in race. This doesn't have a lot of speed and he wants to sit last and make one run to the stretch. The thing with Sadler's joyous. He just runs every single time. He's one of those sources. He needs a little bit of peace. It doesn't need a huge pace. This needs a fair setup in front of them. I'm hoping he gets it here because I feel like he might be an okay price. This time he tends to take money. He's been two to one. His last two starts against a lot of these horses. This time. I think it'll be a better price. Let's go to starts back on his car here. The bowling green at Saratoga, and this is what the other is joy does. You could see him. Way back there right now, but he's starting to close at the end channel maker. Also in this race is a head of him. There Sadler's joy also behind him, his Highland sky who's gonna race on without enough late in here, but Sadler door. You're gonna see how close he makes it at the end that listen channel makers also make an close. He's going to get there two dead heat, but Sadler joins racing on gets between orces late, good performance. I thought from here last time he didn't kick like this Dan, but I didn't that race just didn't set up for him at all. And I think he was way badly compromised last time, hoping this race that's better than I think he's a fair price. This time I want an up and comer and that's Carrico horse that needs to improve his lifetime best. But being a lightning race three-year-old making only as v lifetime start. He has licensed to improve for trainer Tom Morley. He's three for four in his career, and his big win was last time out in the grade one secretariat at Arlington, a race at the same distances, the Arlington million on the same day in a faster final time than Robert Bruce didn't winning the million. We'll go back to his race to starts back that was at the Kent at Delaware, and he kinda gets impeded here turning into. The stretch. I'm not sure if he would have won with a clean trip. He's going to get bumped here and then he finishes evenly. But this is a horse that I think is just going to appreciate extra distance. He stretched out on the secretary. He got a beautiful trip and ride to win under John Velazquez that day, he's going to have to stretch out to a mile and a half, but he at least has some tactical speed, some more tactical speed than a horse, like Sadler's joy, and maybe a little bit more upside down the road. He's going to be a good price. But again, he's going to have to improve. I want I'm also using a lot of Robert Bruce in any kind of multiple race wagers. Let's head out to southern California. The awesome. Again, stakes, a bleeders Cup challenge series winning you're in for the pleasers Cup, classic. Let's throw up the field for the grade one. Awesome. Again, stakes at Santa Anita on Saturday. Three hundred thousand dollars is the purse carded as race. Number eleven. We're going nine furlongs. It's Breeders Cup challenge series. When you're in for the Breeders Cup Classic for expanded stakes, previews of many of the graded stakes races all weekend long and lots, lots more visit video dot dot com or the daily racing form YouTube channel. You can catch our colleague, Matt Bernier on NBC s. n. beginning at seven pm eastern, he'll be covering the awesome again and lots more Mike two-horse race on the morning line tours, pray ceann paper. Probably going to be a two-horse race coming down to the wire at the best handicap in the horse in the country, however, is celebrate yet. It's not much of a betting race in that regard, but it's going to be very interesting to see what happens here when accelerate hooks up with west coast return off of a layoff here because west coast was good. When we last saw a while since he's been out on the race track. And while he's been away, exceleron has just been making short work of these fields out in southern California. Let's look at a replay because everything's really out there on pay per view to say. We're going to pick up the Pacific classic at the top of the stretch, but the racist already over exceleron has blown this field out of the water, and he's going to cross the wire, twelve plus Lanks in front with a one fifteen Beyer speed figure. This horse just keeps getting better every time they sent them out to the racetrack and I think recency gives them a real edge on west coast. I agree with that. This race was over pretty much a half mile in each just brushed to the front and dominated as you just saw. Got the big recency advantage on west coast. Perhaps though the great equalizer there is Bob Baffert. We know that he excels off of layoffs. He's got west coast focused for the classic. Maybe he's using this race as a prep, but a lot of folks forgot how good west coast got during the summer and fall of his three year old campaign giant win in the Travers, giant win in the Pennsylvania derby. Good third place finish as a three year olds in the Breeders Cup, Classic, and in his first. Started for he ran a gigantic race. Let's go back to the Pegasus World Cup just in against gunrunner who was horse of the world. Perhaps at this point, west coast, tried him on the turn. He tries again at the eighth pole. He's just no match for gunrunner a real superstar of the game here into one seventeen Beyer speed figure in west coast, and he went to Dubai. We saw the World Cup earlier on and talking about thunder snow, and that was a day where you had to have the lead in the rail west coast, conceded the lead and the rail to funder snow, going into the first turn, and it was good night. Irene, he ran a solid second. Unfortunately, he's been body sources that race, it's taken a long time for bap to get him back to the races. But I don't think he sued when barris himself on really interested to see what we get from west coast in this race because I have a feeling the west coast we saw last year was certainly better than the accelerate. We saw last year. The problem for west coast is accelerates a lot better than he was last year as well. It's going to be a fun race. The awesome again, JK's play the. As got to pick three and a daily double beautiful Belmont Park on Saturday and David arrogant is time for US. Spotlight focuses on the very competitive grade one. Joe Hirsch turf classic. Let's go to those segments right now. Everybody will Jake as plays a day. We're gonna head out to Belmont Breeders Cup preview day three grade ones, exciting races, the Vosper, the hers classic. Also the jockey club Gold Cup. Look, I'm gonna start this pick three sequence of also gonna give you a double, but I'm gonna start the pick three in Ray seven with Vosper imperial handwriting, huge race at Saratoga, whether this is a prep or he's he's in it to win this one. He's going to run really well, and he's going to be really tough to beat one five in the morning line, no value there, the wind pool, but you can't add a little bit of value if you use them as is an ice cold, single on a pick three into a pick three sequence going onto the next race. Race, eight, the grade one, Joe hers, classic. I'm gonna use three horses in here. The one, Robert. Bruce is an obvious based on his run and the two million, but he doesn't have to win this racy. He Iran here Belmont previously was six to some of these horses, so he doesn't necessarily have to win here. He's probably be over bet being by Chad coming off the two million win, but I'm still gonna use them defensively, the three sound of joy, talented, horse just needs the right setup can win any turf race in America with the right on the right day with the right trip. And then I'm gonna use the eight channel maker who was closing in to that slow pace of at Saratoga where we're glorious empire wired the field. I think channel make could be a little bit more difficult here as Runwell Belmont in the past as well. So I'll use those three horses, the one, the three in the eight to close out the pig, three into start a double here. What I'm going to take a look at doing here as Aubrey. I think Opry the five worse for Todd Pletcher was scheduled to start on the turf back at Saratoga was rained off. The turf of didn't run so well ran third that day than Todd runs the horse back in a steak with anticipation as a maiden, the horse misses the break, still wins. I think it's a very talented voice. I think that one's gonna be pretty tough. And the pilgrim. I'm gonna single there to close out the pick three and also to start a double into the jockey club. Gold Cup right here. I'm gonna use to horses. I'm gonna use diversified and I'm gonna use Mendelson. It's dangerous used because they possibly could hurt each other's chances. But I think that the the riders Iran and Ryan more gonna probably be aware of that. I think they're going to stay off at each other. I think Mendelssohn will either go to the lead and diversify will sit off or vice versa. I think whoever is on the lead is going to have the advantage. I don't think they're gonna dinged on the front end and hurt each other's chances. But I'm gonna pick for one of those two to stick around in the mile and a quarter race for Belmont, leading into the Breeders Cup, plaza. Good luck. We'll see next week. Hi everyone. This is David Arrigoni for this week's time for US spotlight. It's a big day of racing Belmont Park on Saturday features, the jockey club, Gold Cup grade one, but there are two other on race has also the grade three pilgrim on the card. Some of the stakes racist didn't come up that competitive diversifies a heavy beaver in the Gold Cup and imperial hint looks awfully tough to beat the Vosper, but the two middle race is actually really interesting. The pilgrims competitive. We're gonna take a look at the eighth race. It's the grade one turf classic. It drew field abate, but this pretty evenly matched bunch of all of these amid chances, the horse on the rail, Robert, Bruce is the two one morning line favorite. It seems like he is the horse to beat in this race pretty clearly opposite in Arlington million. Last time, we'll just take a look at his recent p p is he's eight for nine lifetime. He's only loss came to back in the Manhattan when things just didn't go quite right for him. But this horse has been pretty much untouchable in his other races. It didn't look like he was ever really gonna get the Arlington million last time, but what he really is able to wind up. His Ron get into top gear. He mows down fields really comes with a strong late finish. We saw that last in Arlington park, you would think that stretching tra- mile and a half only gonna help this horse because you watch his one twelve for long race in Chile, to conclude his career. There is a campaign there. He also that day was just kinda grinding it out. It seemed to, he just seemed to get stronger as the race went on. So I think he's got a ton of stamina. I'm not really concerned about the extra two furlongs you know, he's faced a lot of the same rivals that beat him to back at the Manhattan. But that was a race that really turned into a sprint around the half mile. Reefs palmettos doesn't really work for this worse. He's more Ryan ding type that likes outstay his foes. So I think this race is probably gonna be work more in his favor. His can be very short price. I'm kinda worried about that, but he is way the horse to be Niger simply can't be against him. However, at bicker prices are smother horses that you want to consider that I would use his backups or underneath him of your playing exotic wagers dithers to look at is obviously spring qualities. Beaten in Manhattan to back from quality was actually post race in the Arlington million in August, and he had a bit of a hiccup as he got sick prior to that race, they ended up rerouting him to the sword dancer off. You know, perhaps slightly inadequate preparation and I thought he got a pretty good trip dancer just came up a little bit short that day, but he ran another solid race. I've always liked this horse and I've always thought that the more distance was going to be better for him. The sort dancer was raised that was really dominated on the front end. I think channel maker got a very good trip that day not helped result in his second place finish, whereas glories empire, the winner led the entire way. I thought spring quality ran. Well, I think he's got a very good shot in this classic. He's one that I'm definitely using. But again, he's not going to be the biggest price near some others to consider a satyrs joy might be a horse. The lockable jump off the bandwagon of coming into this classic because he just never got on track in the dancer. Last time. Never really ran his race, very atypical for him because he's a horse that usually does show up every time even though he doesn't win that often. I thought he ran extremely well. The Manhattan going all the way back to that June nine at raise actually three back for him. He kind of made a very early movement. They started sprinting around the far turn. I thought he had every right to fly out of the. End of that race, he also Mel over trip was he probably doesn't like that much of the bowling green. He's one that I wanna use. I think he's a horse of defecate, has a good chance to finish the money in this race. It's just is he finally gonna win race. The stretch to my own half helps in probably, but I just don't quite trust him on top. Let's take a look at the pace, productive, finished rates setting. It's important to discuss the fact there's not really a clear front runner in his field. You see the number two horse high happy number four charac out on the lead. Neither of those were really confirmed front runners, but they might find themselves close up just because there's a real lack of pace in this race. And you see on the bottom of this projector says horses, like pay state or number five. That's because the number five forces Teodoros coming in from from Europe and which don't have any real data to make to make a determination where we're going to be in this race early on, but based on Teodoro European form, I think there's a pretty good chance. He could be unbeliev here. He led all the way to back when he won that race at Haydock and actually earn to one twenty time from ready for that race, which really translates quite well to the time for a speed figures that the other is in this race around. You usually make pretty comparisons between those that puts him right in this race. He's been in some top handicap races throughout the past year or so in England. Usually that form translates pretty well here the last race that he tried. He didn't run so well, that was. Going on three quarters much farther than this race, a much more demanding. Ask them this turf classic American style course. Teodoro is gonna be a big price in this race for some connections. The people are not familiar with. I think he's got a big chance to get on the board your, I don't know if he's good enough to beat Robert, Bruce. 'cause I do think Robert BRUCE'S, formidable, but tan doors definitely. Wanna use some whereas if backup underneath. So those might is in the turf classic back to the studio. Time for our best bet segment here Ryan out of the gate, Mike beer naira analyst. You got someone in southern California. Yeah, just wanted to go to to CNN needed for the chandelier for two year old Phillies degrade one. This is just one of those situations. Dan, where couple horses coming out of the grade one race out there that I just didn't love the two favorites on the morning line. I wanted to bet against those horses, and I want to do it with Bob Baffert with this horse Dir Lou number five. He's coming out of a maiden when only one once they sprinted her six and a half furlongs at del mar. Let's look at a replay because this is one of those Phillies where I feel like sprinting isn't really what she wants to do. She bread to go longer. She's just getting warmed up here in the stretchy gonna see your overtake the the horse on the lead right now. She just gets stronger as the race gets down towards the end. I really feel like she wants to go a long distance and they're going to structure right out for a second career. Start sense this when Baffert through a bunch of six and seven for a long works into before sharpened her up again for last two, I think distances the key for her. I don't like the two favorites. I wanna bet source. Lots of steaks action of Belmont and Santa Anita. My best bet said Delaware park, race number eleven's. The new castle stakes six to one shot on the morning line. That's the number three win place or show Ohno won the Newcastle steaks last year as a three year old amend took on some salty competition at laurel before going on the shelf for two hundred and seventy seven days. Let's go to his return. His first start as a four year old, and he had the misfortune to catch an extremely inside speed favoring track and twelve time winner trained by four, hey, Navarro sing another song who was able to control this pace on v. lead win place show were knows getting tired late, but he's going to hold on for second. And I think all things considering off this long, long layoff, it was a rock solid performance. I think the connections of probably circle this race ever since they realized it was going to take them a long time to get back to the racist. He's got some tactical speed. Obviously he loves Delaware park again, sick. Two one on the morning line, three win place or show Ono at Delaware park. 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Episode 44: Malibu, La Brea

Racing Rundown: A Horse Racing Podcast

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Episode 44: Malibu, La Brea

"All right welcome back. This is the recent run on podcast. Marb you may be however you you may be making us part of your day. Thanks much episode number. Forty four the final episode of two thousand nine hundred. If you have not taking a look at our year slash decade. Recap show that was posted last Friday. Go take a listen to that once. This is over We got some stuff today. Got Looking back at the great three. Mr Prospector. Also looking forward at the Santa Anita Opening Day stakes for the twentieth of December. Just a program note That opening day was pushed back two days because of weather so without further ado. We're going to get into talking about the Mr Prospector and that race featured the comeback X. Y. Jet Is first start since winning the Dubai golden checking back in March. It also brought back imperial hint. Who was scratched? The morning of the Breeder's Cup sprint. And like I mentioned last week. That was a very disappointing scratch because it looked like imperial hint was a very good position to be a big factor on Breeders Cup Day so I brought those two together but neither those two horses were the winner of that race diamond. Oops a horse that Eric highlighted as the one that would be the winner if neither imperial hit X. Y. Jet Won the race so there the condom nominee on that race. Was both imperial hint. Expo jet went way too fast. And I'll let eric into that right now but what is take away from that race was released when he told me was that That was way too fast. Go for some furlongs yet. That was those exactly. I think We got to fail to talk about that last week. There was a big difference from what these horses had been running before and what they were going to be. Running last Saturday at seven furlongs is not necessarily in the wheelhouse for either of these horses. Imperial Hands Never been able to perform at a distance longer than six and a half furlongs and X. Y. jet. We know he's pure speed so for an horse beckoned match speed Toe For toe to go that fast at him in a seven furlong race It was it was quite obvious on the first about half furlong that neither one of these were going to run that big because they were running so fast and as I mentioned last week that horse is going to pick up. The pieces was going to be diamond tubes. He's he's been flying under the radar all year and It was it was fun to see him. Finally kind of pulled through in a big Seiji had won the smile sprint in July. At coldstream against much weaker field granted but Very nice. There's even get the win in. I think they're really expecting a big twenty twenty from him so a nice steppingstone here winning this race. So yeah just to briefly mention that I'll pose the question to you. Where do you think the connections of both imperial hint and exploit GIECO from this point? My guess is that imperial hand will probably go straight to buy from here You missed it. Two years ago and they they ran last year and he didn't have a big trip. I've pretty sure that's where they'll point to this time especially because I think they'll get maybe easier group but I think they're going to be more confident heading in especially because he's had a close preparez from this. I imagine that's why let's go to the Saudi Cup. I know I heard Horror Navarro on. Twitter was throwing around the idea of him in X. Y. J. an chance lot throwing throwing down in that race so i. That's where I expect those to go and I did. Read dime tubes also is expected to head to buy for his next start so Looks like all three of those horses are going to be heading overseas The Middle East for their next runs so we could see some interesting. That would be very interesting to see chance lot and X. Y. Jet Gun in Saudi Arabia. Excuse me a good proving ground for for that track definitely get to the best sprinters in the United States out there but that being said let's shift gears over to opening day at Santa Anita For for new New Year new meat and very heavy on on the sprints with this car to a couple of para seven for long races. The Malibu and the La Brea Bolt four three year old so final big race of the the final big races of the year for both sexes of their three-year-old campaign. So let's highlight the first one of the two is the Malibu stakes and that is going to feature the final start in California for the favorite of the Kentucky. Derby scratched the. I believe it was the Wednesday of. I can't remember that off the top of my head but scratched prior to the Kentucky Derby Omaha Beach and I highlighted him. Last week is one of the horses. That Kinda has disappointed this year to no fault really of his own. But this this would be A good way for Omaha shoe wrap up. What was what could have been year for Omaha? Beach some of the other horses to highlight in this Bob Baffert sends out his entry of much better and roadster roadster has not run up to the race that he ran in the Santa Anita. Derby come down off of that performance. Big Instagram is another one air. Kyla him last week. INSTAGRAM A HORSE. That we we've been expecting a lot from him and it hasn't come so there's several horses in this race that are looking to run prove it races as well as on a beach to get one last winning. California in the books on the way to the Pegasus. Yeah I mean it's really hard to go against Omaha Beach in this spot. Purely because in his two comeback raises you've proven. He can compete at an elite level beating. You know the Best three-year-old sprinter of of the year at a distance. He probably shouldn't have been running. Hobbies shouldn't have been running in the Sandinistas Sprint Championship. And then Tuck luck troubled kind of trip in the Breeders Cup Mile End. Sac GRUPO forces. That like I really loved this group. I think there's a lot of untapped talent coming from his rivals but he's the one that has put it all together to this point and we seen him win going seven furlongs at Santa Anita before and I am going to be surprised if he doesn't do it again. Especially because I imagine they're not going to be close to to the early pace and with instagram they're in much better as well as complexity and probably even manual of the Hor- shipping and for Wayne Catalano other going to be a lot of early speed in this race and so home hope Omaha. Beach should be able to pick up the pieces from there Instagram as a horse. I really like and I talked about how he had a disappointing year and I think he's going to have a good twenty twenty but I don't think this is going to be a ratio only able to Finally put it all together in especially because he's facing such tough group Much better is probably going to be my second choice in this in this race. He's he's had sloan under the radar for sure this year so I wouldn't be surprised if the stick around After a tough earliest hastened a hang in there get a second or third so that. That's it for the Malibu. I do want to throw out here. The the three states that were originally supposed to be on the twenty sixth of December. I do have or at least I have at this point. We'll have a preview video over on youtube that the album was already up and The the brea and San Antonio should be up before the twenty fifth so you can go check those out for if you want a more in depth. Look I did talk about much better. Asa A horse that I also think one. That isn't really as highlighted but don't be surprised if he runs a huge race on Saturday. Shifting gears over to the La Brea and this brings a horse running it saying I need. I have confidence in Bellevue. I don't want to call her inconsistent but the the results have not been there outside of California and you know I said this after the Kentucky Oaks after she ran fifth. It wasn't necessarily. It was a disappointing run. Yes it wasn't a terrible run but I said after that that I would have hoped that Simon calgon would take her back to California and hide her in the four five Horsfield's and get some wins and not necessarily easy stakes but some wins in California stakes against up lesser amounts of competition. That's not the route that they took but her last start out the Breeders Cup affiliated Mayor Sprint Very nice race behind the best female sprinter in the country Kofi so Bella Fina coming off of that performance. There's not really a superstar in this race in nothing. The Fina is one but Bella Fina easy is a very good spot going into this librium curious. What you think about her. Chances here yeah. She's she's GonNa go off favored and it's you know. We obviously know her affinity for San. I needed. I mean you really covered all the bases and I. I also personally think that she is best going one. Turn especially seven prolong. She seems to be a specialist at that. Distance is going to go off. The heavy heavily favored a horse industry. But it is a pretty solid group behind her Bells the one is shipping and after a raven run winning on. There's also some decent horses that may run such as a domain brill. And above Bob Adverts message who all have shown promise in allowance races throughout the year And another one. Tyler is motion emotion from the Richard Ball. Disbarring this'll if she runs the LA brea will be her second. Start for that barn and she finished her in a really good race in the park oaks last time out with the horse. I'm really intrigued by his first star of from the Ron Ellis. For this will only be her. Fourth Career Starts She broke her maiden in. What an allowance at del Mar over the summer and rainy huge seconds in the Raven. Run behind bill to one and she was close to pace. That wasn't too favorable for her and for her to still run that really game second. First Time out of California against a really deep group Really impressed me so Bella Pena's the favorite but I'm going to take a shot and I'm GonNa go first star I just think that she. She's kind of trending upward and her workouts have been really impressive after back bullet workouts at CNN. Anita so If you're looking for a value play He'll be should be well bad. But because delvina GonNa take so much money it'll be a good price on for star. So she's might pick to win the LIBRETTO and I did highlight first star. I do just want to mention I highlighted first star in the deliberate previews on other plug for that. Also shifting gears to the gray to race This one around two terms mildest sixteenth. The grey to San Antonio. And I I just want to credit Santa Anita. They did a good job with moving around their stakes because it gives the the older males a platform to run on on their opening day. Moving this race back from when it used to be run February. But you've got a horse returning off a long layoff gift box. It looked like John. Sadler had something with him earlier in the year when he you got him from the win. Heroics got him from the Chad Brown bar and gave them to Sadler. He beat a Horse. Battle of midway that going into this year was the consent. The consensus top older male horse of the year. Obviously he had the unfortunate injury which resulted in him. Mvp euthanize battle of midway was a really quality horse and then So gift box beat him in the San Antonio last year and then ran. The huge racy ran against mackenzie in big CAP. And he lost the Gold Cup Santa Anita but he ran a very nice rate. Second Behind Bureau. So who went on to win the Jockey Club Gold Cup before being disqualified but he crossed the wire first air and then obviously won the Breeders Cup classic so Gift boxes kind of to me. The same cases of phenotype one that runs significantly better at Santa. Anita you've got the the last three works. Their most recent start was the Stephen Foster. He left Santa Indian and he got boat raced in the Stephen Foster got badly. By seeking the soul in two horses that then proceeded to go to California and get boat race themselves in the Pacific classic. So gift box is an intriguing horse in this spot. I'm not necessarily going to say the. He seems like a horse. It could be vulnerable. Because he's off of two consecutive defeats but The Senate Nita is a-plus with him as well as the the fact that Slather horses tend to run while in California so intriguing with him but in addition to gift box on the Salad Bar. And you also have a Richard Mandela's extra hope rent. Renan is second in the native diver. The winner of that race midcourt possibly as well as draft pick ran a big race. You run two big races. His last two starts in the summer. I should say In the Pacific classic he ran second in that race him was third in the San Diego. And then you also have great magician for Peter. Peter Miller who ran a nice second has lasted out in the Smarty Jones. So there are some intriguing horses intriguing probables in this field again. All these entries are not set. But it's worth mentioning. All those horses possibles to run in this race me. My my top choice here is going to be mid court John Chair stay. Confirm he's going to be running in the spot and you you know early on in history. I remember watching races and I was just not. I was not impressed with what he was. Obviously not put it all together mentally. But he's last few starts and especially his win last time out in the native diver. He's proven Intini starting to get it together And I really gift box. I thought he was probably my views. Probably my top contender for the Breeders Cup classic You know in the spring this year. but coming off the layoff against group that's improved throughout the year In probably has some more racism and probably more fit than gift boxes. That's why I'm going to have to go against him. Draft Corte. My not just never seems to be able to get it done and especially against Midcourt mid-course just been dominate in his last race he just dominated his competition with us So I'M GONNA go midcourt Gray magicians another horse. He's been improving throughout the year. Extra hope is also coming off of second off of a layoff so he's bound to improve but I just think midcourt is going to be the horse that's GonNa kind of when all these horses ship out of California running in the Middle Eastern Greg. Getting ready for run in the Pegasus. Court's GonNa be the Horse who's GonNa be you know sweeping up all these races in southern California for these big purses and I think it starts right here. You know it's interesting. You mentioned that because I could see that parallel now that you make that kind of the case a horse a couple years ago Melatonin who when California chrome and all the other big ones that were out in Dubai winning all those races melatonin proceeded to sweep up the big cap and I still want to Hollywood Gold Cup the Gold Cup at Santa Anita so That that's a good point to make with midcourt when all these horses do leave here. It's GONNA leave horses like him. Still not sure what happens with gift box. So he could still factor but That is a very good point. Mentioned that the fact that all the international shipping could benefit midcourt a lot all right so the final Great one of this card is the great one American Oaks. GonNa to let Eric. Handle this one right here. The big a big shock here is out of the nominated. Group zero comb from Chad Brown. Varna trainer goose pretty much dominated this race since he got moved to its December slot In addition you don't really see much of an east coast presence coming over. There was really only one notable nomination was diner. Pass from the Tom overtraining barn and even then she's yet to win anything but a maiden race in a career starts so Really risky to be dominated by California Group of three year old turf phillies who have not been consistent. Nor quality this year we've seen flashes of brilliance from Aguado resources but none had really broken through to be the elite horse of my the top. Worst invention here is lady prance. Lot the winner of the valley view at Keeneland in October in her last starch of Richard Baltic Before that she'd been placing a lot of big steak. She actually won the great three honeymoon in June at Santa Anita. So she's likely going to be your favorite in this spot another one. I've mentioned is mutual unusual. Who's putting a couple of poor DOE performances In her last three races before that was really impressive. Winner of the San Clemente and a bunch of Calgary graces before that so she's another horse of note Don't know this horse is going to run. But from the Bob Baffert Barn Rayon. She's got a really nice pedigree behind her very raised. In her last arch. She won an allowance at Santa Anita on Breeders Cup weekend Very impressive when at that very fast. I just question if a mile and a quarter is for her A couple of other horses of mentioned vibrance A very much battle-tested films actually third in the British up juvenile fillies in two thousand eighteen As had a bit of breaks between her last couple of races but she was third Off of a small layoff in the red carpet at Dome Against Older Mares in her last start so I wouldn't be surprised if that was supposed to be stepping board a springboard for this spot. So she's another one who might be on the improved. And the last horse I will mention is going to be Giza Goddess from the John. Chair spun Raina poor raisin matriarch in her last start but to starts back in really good seconds in the autumn mists also Was a week before the Breeders Cup. So she has Santa Anita Experience And she's only rancher racist and zero she's definitely of widely raised in probably on the improvable after a bit of a layoff. So that's the American oaks for you allotted different angles. Whichever you prefer to go with. You can take the my team's going to be late. Prance walk purely because I think she has the most outside of anyone in this group and this kind of has the feeling of race that just kind of feels like you know the a couple not a couple of minutes before pope but like the morning of the race you just kind of it seems like the race or you just kind of put the put the race card up and throw darts at a dartboard and see what sticks. At least that's trust me. I'm all all valuate. The race wants the entries. Come out to put my pick on twitter. The last thing I want to get to the show today is. That's at for the race previews but the last thing they want to get to on the show today. Is We have a couple of extra minutes. So let's talk about one of the many controversies that has come out the past couple of days and that is the annual American graded stakes committee submitting their upgrades and downgrades of a particular races. Now specifically we're GONNA hit on the grade. One racist here. Four races were downgraded from their grade. One status three of them all being at Santa Anita those being the Shan't the chandelier race for two year old phillies Breeders Cup race. Also the grade one Santa Anita Sprint Championship and the Santa Anita Oaks and in addition the great one vosper in New York so All for those races were downgraded. There were no races that were upgraded. you can banter about what races should have been upgraded. I personally don't really think there's anything that is worth arguing over. That wasn't upgraded. I don't know if Eric you have anything. That should have been upgraded. But I'll let you start off first with your feeling on those Graded stakes downgrades. Yeah nothing nothing in particular about Being health create I think what the degrade ones they had? Were really good in but I do very much disagree with the raises. They downgraded my biggest. My biggest frustration is with the downgrade of the Santa Anita. Oaks to a great too. I know the big factor was the small fields. But I mean if you look back. The last five years we've had winters like Songbird and behold hurt Dela Vina on multiple divorces horses. Those are just the ones off the top of my head Though that includes horses became thrilled champion. Phillies. One that comes to mind is stellar wind. She was another one. Who was a later named champion three-year-old filly on so just the fact that these these horses have won the stores that have won this grade. One race Is such a long list of eclipse award winners in two zero champions and thrilled and older mares. It's not like they're just waiting that race from a two year old champion year. They're going on to do group things. And then you downgrade the race. It's it's just a it's just a shame in my opinion even though they are not beating a lot of horses. It's obviously drawing horses to that race and I think this is just another thing. That's really unhelpful. For Southern California raising to take away three grade ones from them at a time when they really don't need that they need More attention and more money and more prestige for their races so they can get their get their reputation bill back up so obviously no hope for them. it's very stupid that the Santa Anita Sprint Championship and Bosberg were both downgraded goes I think this year alone kind of proves how quality the the race can be on then. Obviously that's going to deteriorate from it. I don't know how much though because as of this point. Those are two major prepped for the Breeders Cup that great ones In the third one would have to be the Phoenix taints at keeneland which is great you so at this point all all those races are great. Choose now all the major breeders cup. Preparation is our grade twos on so I don't know how much of a factor that'll happen deteriorating field quality but it's definitely a a negative for the sport that they take away these these labels of great one great ones for these races. Yeah I think that's a good point to bring up because the Breeders Cup The Breeders Cup Challenge Series labeled on those racist specifically the Santa Anita Sprint Championship. And the Vosper. That definitely does eight. Those two races. I do WANNA mention He was talking about the quality of horses that come through this field up. These are the the last five winners which some people were saying on on twitter. You got horses. You Got Bello Fina. Obviously this year midnight last year paradise was in two thousand seventeen song or two thousand sixteen. Two Thousand Fifteen stellar wind beholder in two thousand fourteen. You mentioned also two thousand. Eleven turbulent descent. A Horse that went on to win a bunch of great ones in the year. Two thousand eleven so that seven horses out of the ten winners from the SANTITA OAKS THIS DECADE. That all went on to have some forms of success in their two year. Old Camp or excuse me in their three-year-old year. So and I definitely at the point that Erick makes the field size is one thing. But you and I know. The graded stakes committee has submitted some factors as to why they downgraded it and you know the overall quality of the race but you know the winners of the race should be something that is taken into account and also the other thing is. I don't WanNa to throw other races onto the boss either but you know there's certain races like the Santa Handicap. Someone brought up is a race. That definitely doesn't get the quality of forces that it used to and you know kind of in some years can feel like a grade two race and you know the history behind that race has made the greatest states committee less enthusiastic about downgrading that race but You know so. The exception goes there I under I see it from both ways. I understand that they have the criteria that they have to meet. And you know obviously the sanity to oaks was the weakest of the of some of the top three road races. Now obviously. That's looking at racist past the Kentucky Oaks all those races that it lags behind with the exception of actually never mind. It doesn't like it is the most successful the Walker handcock. Put some stuff out on twitter. All if you WANNA go check out his twitter of why it was downgraded. It is the most successful of the triple crown prep races and I I don't like that it was downgraded but I understand that there are standards to live up but at the same time I can understand something and still not like it and I think the point Erick brings up his great that. This doesn't help California at all you know. We've all known the field size. It's been well documented that the fact that the field sizes are down. And you know in time in California needs something This isn't a time to kind of take something away from California when they need as much going for them as they can possibly have That's really about it. You know the Vosper that's top sprint race on the east coast. I don't understand why that's being downgraded you know the the Alan Alfred Vanderbilt. Excuse me up mixing up that with the Allen Jerkins that's a great one at Saratoga. That's not up Breeders Cup race up now. I know the forego. That's not Breeders Cup race either. The vase that's Breeders Cup challenge race so And it's it's another one of the historic races but it's not as historic is some of the other ones so that one getting downgraded And also getting downgraded the Santa Anita are Santa Sprint Championship off of the two insane performances by a pair of really nice horses chance lot Omaha Beach and imperial hinton forensic fire respectively between those two races. You know that enough could weigh. Should in my opinion way the decision but regardless I understand that there are standards that they have to they have to meet but I can understand the standards and not like something so. That's the way that I feel about that. I don't know I'll pose the question you nothing really jumps out at me. Do you think there's anything that should have been upgraded. That wasn't no. I think you know we've obviously dealt with the downs major. Downgrades where the wood memorial in the the BLUEGRASS in the last couple of years in Does kind of at times has kind of grown to accept it because he's racists have continued to struggle to produce a quality runner from one race. I do think they deserve an upper to grade. One is the Louisiana Derby Just because I think we I mean for battering field sizes that race has never failed to produce a big field and Quality Wise. You know at least you're winner or your top two or three Generally able to do something down the road They've kept me a fringe fringe. One AD. Says I'm you could even argue that? The bluegrass deserved more. Which I do think it would be great moon. But I've grown to accept that it won't be by overall that I think that other than obviously the ones we discussed today. I think they had a good and I think they just kind of felt like they needed to make changes when they really didn't Wanna I said I will. Highlight is something that could be upgraded in the future. I mean it's not like a sin at this wasn't upgraded a grade one but one that you could look look out in the future and I think eventually this does come the OAKLAWN HANDICAP. Oaklawn has had a tremendously successful meet last year. And they look to have another one. They're probably GONNA break their handle record for an entire meat but the apple blossom the female version of the OAKLAWN handicap. That's a great one already now. The Apple Blossom has produced a significantly better horses coming out of it than the oaklawn handicap but champions of come through that race close hatches have raided grace stellar wind forever unbridled this year midnight out of that race so obviously and of course then. Yada ran there twice one so that obviously is of a higher quality than the Oakland. The Oakland campus had some large field sizes that pretty good race or a a very good reason gone handicap last year The other two right big race settled on the Arkansas Dory and the apple blossom are already great ones. I could see that coming at some point a future again. Not Not a sin. That wasn't upgraded. But that's something that I could see. Not that could see that I do see happening within. The next five years at is a race. It's on the rise at least with the amount of horses that are running in that. It's one of those races where the horses. That aren't necessarily good enough to go to go over to the Middle East but are still nice horses in their own right. That's one of the places where those sources can congregate and run so I could see that being a great one at some point. I don't know if you would agree with me on that but that that's the way I see. No that's that's an excellent point you make nuts race ide excellent. Uc could be upgraded then one more race. That actually came to my mind would be fair. Grounds OAKS As the committee has shown they don't necessarily care about who wins the races but just going back on the honor. Roll this race street band of land. Oversee. I'm chatterbox untapped? Potential of believe you can unlimited budget in there and you had further back. You Have Rachel. Alexandra Proud Spell Shadow. Intake charge leading so Obviously they do it in five year increments but like you mentioned with the a one handicap being a race on the rise. This race is proving urine in your out. It can produce top quality of three zero year but even further on so That's another race to think about Just because such so many great Billionaires have come out of that race so that is about it for this episode today again We'll we'll be back after after the holiday for a recap of sand opening day and preview of some of the first races on the Kentucky Derby trail. Yes we're going to start talking about that Yes the two thousand Twenty Kentucky Derby coming around St still not over the fallout from the Kentucky Derby this year. But it's coming sooner than we think it is so that will be on the show next time Probably we could see see that. Come out around the first or the second So that's coming up as well as Once the eclipse award finalists come out. Jay Bergman is going to come back on the show. We're going to have another horse racing. Meat Sandwich Ribbon. That's what I'm going to call the segments but he comes on we're gonNA talk about The eclipse awards also will will press him on not necessarily pressing. But we'll talk to him about the hall of fame because that is something that's going to come up within the next couple of weeks. They'll release the nominees. Some horses just projecting that Forward some horses that I think definitely are going to be nominated or should be nominated an argument to be nominated. I want to highlight wise. Dan is going to get in a US going to be nominated. He will get in his first. Tried a horse. It will be nominated definitely groupie doll. And I think she should get in as well as the horses that highlighted from last year. I think Wrecks to riches. It's finally time to say Yup Hall of fame. I put her into the hall of fame. Just for that race ran in the Belmont stakes but show get nominated again. She should get in at least in my opinion and then also some jockeys that we've been talking about Corey. Nakatani retired this year. I think hall time for Hall of fame for him as well as we'll evaluate some of the other ones when the time comes all all open up to you. If you have any horse pressing horses that you think will be considered for the hall. Because is something that is coming up. I just remember that right at the end of the show. I mean you mentioned a lot of a lot of great ones in I think when the time comes it's definitely converse more but I love listening made rags-to-riches one of my favorite horses of all time so That's definitely one. I'd love to see in there all right so with all that being said. Oh we'll see you next week Merry Christmas happy holidays and good luck. Good luck sanity if you if you do decide to play those races.

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Paul Pogba tells Man Utd team mates he won't be at Utd next season, Bobic tells media "i'm a realist if a great club like Madrid came in for Jovic we would have to sell"

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Paul Pogba tells Man Utd team mates he won't be at Utd next season, Bobic tells media "i'm a realist if a great club like Madrid came in for Jovic we would have to sell"

"Welcome back. Everybody to the radnich podcast of the end of a week with very few dramas either on or off the field, the only ongoing saga that continues to interest. The media is that's all Gareth Bala just how Madrid can rid themselves of a player that simply will not it appears go anywhere. Now. What is future may very well be in Madrid is Luca Yovich, Freddie, Bubby as being quoted today as saying that there is a real possibility that Yovich will sign for Madrid. I want him to stay here. But I am realistic know that have a great club light Madrid comes in for him. Then we will have no option but to sell him. Remember, look at your completed his move to on-track Frankford from then fica in the last week. And now, though the boggling can begin in an SDS part is clear to negotiate with Madrid. Pedrick Ruiz, though, is the man that I'm trapped want as part of the deal, and this may well be. Sticking point is a player with huge potentially the top score with the team's twenty Twenty-one goals of all the games. He's played this season is a Spanish under nineteen international as well Madrid have a big decision to make here. Do they let a play with significance potential Goto secure Yovich or they try to fend off the interest by offering Marianna or Al D Thomas? Instead looks like a bumpy ride ahead before this deal does actually get completed staying in Germany Niko Kovac, the by Munich coach was pressed on the future of Hammas Rodriguez Sube once again is out of favor. There was a curt reply to the question. Why isn't he playing? Well, we change things he said for the Dortmund game and that gave us a five no victory. So why should I change anything? Now looks very very lightly. Indeed that we'll be on his way temporarily bag to. Drid before he shipped out. Elsewhere now, pull Paula has allegedly told his teammates of Manchester United. He won't be around next season. And he wants a fresh Gelin JR. The mood. United is quite relaxed. It said if we secure a good deal, you can go being the view and could that be a cash, plus Tony Cruz deal as the German would almost certainly be relegated Paul arrived in Z. Dan's comments on Palmer, do tend to underline that. He remember said. Well, there are very few players who can contribute so much as pob. Can he's amid field Blair who can defend and attack. He really does. Have it all modern o'dowd's future seemed certain now to be a Netherlands with I axis his next destination, but rid initially wanted twenty million for him. But we'll negotiate a deal zoo. Dan has made it clear that there is no room for Odaguard. Should he return to Madrid in the summer? Later said the Z at has managed to overcome one significant terro for next season that is getting around to agree to stay next season. The is yet to confirm or deny though, any of those media reports now do Madrid have any jobs of siding Mattis delinked from I as well new package deal is being put together for a player that some believe could be the new Sergio Ramos. There will be a fifty million cash plus Mariana, plus as a sweetener Ford's elect a salary almost double walled Barcelona are prepared to offer. It's tempting prospect. Indeed. And who knows it might just work. Now, Jaffe league suture is way from Benfica, according to his agent hoagie Mendez who's currently trying to get Benfica to actually reduce their release fee, which is one hundred twenty million down to about eighty to secure a move away after interest flagged significantly. Where nobody stepped forward to discuss the possibility of move at that price believing one hundred twenty believe for a nineteen year old one season behind him was just asking a little too much for a play. If MO is dubbed, the new Cristiano Ronaldo to stay on the subject of former Benfica players. Greta she went to Barry sash. Remember was then loaned out to Valencia is being linked ram adrit. Again, albeit on what they say is the be list. He's coming to form of light with six goals since March and on the face of it Valencia would be unlikely to sell that anything less double the forty million that they paid for him last season. The one player who this season has found his reputation has been significantly enhanced is that of counting Benza, but despite what could be a record season for him. It hasn't stopped Madrid's pursuit of signing. Another proven strike, oh one who. Becoming though it seems is economy is agent wife was seen in tears on Italian television on Sunday evening when she proclaimed where he will be staying in Italy next season. Rumors though of most Saleh's falling out with Kojiro club odd gathering a bit of momentum of this. Despite his agent denying. There is any significant issue with yoga clocked meters in Spain on France all continue to speculate told him Hans but looking at an eleven VAT intervention to keep Christine Erickson ads the club. They're seeking a meeting with the play and his agents where they will offer him a w money salary in order to remain taking him onto eleven million per season, which would be an excess of what rail Madrid a currently offering it told him Hotspurs record signing Devon's and Sanchez could be a Veran replacement. If indeed he does decide to go. He's grown. Tide of playing this bit part role in the T me. Remember will only be twenty three this June would relish the move to Madrid. If it were to materialize. But again, it would be hard to bogging with Levi's unto contract into twenty twenty four and Spurs would want double the money that they paid for. It could be about to spring a surprise by rescuing Adron raviol- from this personal nightmare and torment PS g the play remember can leave at the end of the season for nothing. He still with that any concrete offer. And as we say could be snapped up for very little indeed Z, Dan is said to be mulling over the possibility. Now, the latest on the bap a rumors that continue to occupy space across all of the media's around here. But once again, he was quick this weekend to dispute any potential departure over the summer. I'm staying for sure he said, but does seem to be a general level of agreements between most that three players. In particular will not be at Madrid's next season. Mockus Leah Renta should bias and Arregi lawn. Who must be feeling the most frustrated at that having seemingly won the battle for my sellers place under salary he napkins himself once again on the fringes time. No does appear to be on his serum. He is only twenty two years of age. I just returning to PS g one player who's received a definitive. No, we're not interested after making tentative enquiries about a potential move. Is you drag slow the twenty five year old who actually made seventy five appearances for the club scoring eleven goals since his move from Vosper back in two thousand sixteen seventeen. He's desperate to move away this summer to reignite a career which a few years ago. Remember when he was shelter destined to take him to the very top of the game. Let's not forget it just be as significant few days, of course, for Karen Benz. Mass score. Of a hattrick over the weekend. It was his first hat-trick since December of twenty fifteen hundred IGA where he schooled three in that infamous ten to victory of viscount. It's only a second attract in league scored a couple in Europe. Remember, scoring his mom. Oh couple of hattricks there and against Lavanchy in the culpa del Rey, memorable day all round made even more. So the facts that he's actually done something that neither Rinaldo. Distefano push or Sanchez did which is he scored eight goals now in a row the last player actually other than him to score a goal was sa- bios against west back on the thirty. First of March is the damn went ost about the hatchet can general level of performance by Bensimon was all of it matter of factory. I'm happy for him. He said, I know the play that he is. I'm not surprised at what he's done as fa- county Benjamin. He was asked edgy why? He suddenly started to schools so many goals. Now, what he said we play a system where I am. The number nine didn't have to run seven much. He's two goals. Remember off his record of thirty two as well. It's just a record. He said if it happens it happens. I just want to help the team to win an on his future. He said I'm going to continue with Real Madrid. Why would I go anywhere else? I'm with the best club in the world and talking about stay Marcello has again, reiterated his intentions, but read he said is my home. Everybody knows how much I love this club lurking Aldridge had a few words as well off to he played his three hundredth game for the club fifteen titles and a golden bull one in that time. We will not bad return Rudy is it I'm hoping he said that'll be one hundred more was a few interesting grudges from boss Alona picked up over the last few days about the potential of neymar returning. To the club. There is no chance they said of Neemat returning. They have ongoing projects with didn't belly and Coutinho on the parting shot underlying further the strained relations between the former player and his former club belly. They said is a much better player than name overlap may well be that you had still hasn't given up hope of either name or all Imbaba signing this summer who's he tries to dream up scenarios, which would be acceptable to PS g the latest involves offering Iskoe. Andrew Rigas and cash PS midfield. Could certainly do with bolstering with raviol- gung as well Drexler lightly to be offered up for sale demoura thirty one years of age not getting any younger there isn't much behind them ratty impacted as and kacoos well decent enough. But with the Champions League that they said desperately want to win. They may feel that more investment is needed in this particular area. And who knows is go Allred Rigas, well, they could very well fit into Thomas tickles plans at that just about wraps it up then fought today. Don't forget you can catch up on the whole season's worth of news vodka, the website round the trick podcast dot com. You can follow us as well on itunes, Stitcher. Spotify Google to name a few of the platforms, and we will be back on Monday where a review of the week in Madrid until then enjoy football wherever you're watching it Romi, Tim capable Bye-bye.

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Como usar msica comercial em seu Podcast

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14:52 min | 6 months ago

Como usar msica comercial em seu Podcast

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In The Gate #441 - Races of the Year

In The Gate

18:23 min | 8 months ago

In The Gate #441 - Races of the Year

"Do we know it's been a difficult year for horse racing in this country. But let's not forget why all of this takes exp place to see these gifted athletes those with two legs and with core battle nobly for the glory that they chase we sifted through the biggest biggest racist to reach. Our vaunted ten some good ones wound up on the cutting room floor including Kafi beating seren getty empress in the test and Gucci Gucci Factor. In the poker a photo with four. We also have an honorable mention. We'll share with you. That happened far removed from American shores. Our top ten all happened here so on with it we go the best of twenty nine thousand nine hundred comes to the fore what better way to start art than with a horse blanket. Finish the kind you see so often on the grass this mile trip on the Senate Anita Lawn and early. October had Breeders Cup up implications for this class. The winner hadn't raced since February eight months earlier and so he was dismissed at sixteen to one by Dryden Van N.. Dyke Save the horses energy in the city of hope mile and he lived up to his name as he got the job. Done through dollar racing on the inside of on-deck should the far turn. synchrony awaiting racing room has seven to make up in the blue cap catapult is outside of him. Then it's Ohio. Big Score tried ride a rally on the outside of river buoyed up quarter mile to go and kingly has been there every step of the way chased by restraint vengeance. They're still one to prince. Earliest analysts. Breathe like stock and starting to finish with some momentum synchrony at the rail catapult extreme outside and true valour sixteenth Toco. His prince between heart set the far outside their comes true dollars searching. Here's a live photo goes true valour upset in the city of hope mile in a wild scramble. The finish it was a star-crossed year for the Kentucky Derby Favorite Omaha beach scratched four days before the biggest race of them all a minor throat procedure and other niggling injuries. Rob The colt of the chance to come away with a hall but in March Omaha Beach was still a formidable liberal presence at oaklawn Park where he ran in the rebel stakes awaiting him was the two year old champ game winner. It's race nine which of the to show us what it takes Omaha. Beach makes his move Omaha Beach. I'll length in front of market king then comes game winner and here comes game winner off off after Omaha beach these to go to the quarter pole one to Omaha beach three quarters of a length from game winner who has pushed along now by Joel. Rosario here's Captain Von Trapp running a good race. He's up into third. They run to the top of the stretch Omaha beaches in front. He has a two length lead on game winner. Who has astor go right now? Omaha Beach Pass midstretch now a length and a half game winner trying to gun him down on the money and Rosario says it's came. I here's came time outside Omaha. Beach game winner Omaha Beach Right together in Omaha Beach. I think he turned him away. Omaha Omaha Beach did win again. After all his many injuries in October taking the Santa Anita Sprint but the competition and the Breeders Cup was just too much off one race Omaha beaches brilliance came only in short glints. We tend to forget in the wake of Santa. Anita's publicized problems. How many any super racist they stage this year? One of them. The yellow ribbon is our race number eight. Another blanket finish happens here and to that NATO Oh in the yellow ribbon may chasing storm. The Hill Valedictorian is in second silly. Keri mcdowall dummy outside bowl recalls sits between Rana's in a little tight the record drop back as did luna elites as will tries to get involved on the policy side top of the lane yellow rubbing and stolen the hill goes on stall the the hill is still the leader as they swing on the inside. Bowl recall this bad. Silica starts to travel in the in the white blankets on the outside stone the hill later basilica coming home gateway by recall down at the rile stormed I held by Rico. Sake WHOA knows the hill recall couldn't split those to the winning number one though recall. There's very little doubt that Chad Brown trainy bricks and mortar will be named two thousand nineteen horse of the year. Perfect six for six including five great one wins and rarely did he give his backers fear but there was one time in two thousand. Nineteen that bricks and mortar was hooked in a tight one and it's our seventh rated race. The Mervyn Muniz memorial at the fairgrounds in New Orleans with a sixty two to one longshot invading his space leaning against heading toward the half-mile pole here in a Muniz memorial from bricks and mortar persuaded their with hot springs synchrony between Horses Gray and Blue Stripes for job Bravo. Joined by Inspector Spector Linley. WHO's looking to gain for Jose Ortiz? None at the hands of drew to visit Arrow is last. Oh six of the far side of the fairgrounds course where it's still market off. Still market off at sixty two to one up bricks and mortar looms to the front runner inspector when Lee sweeps on the outside to visit Arrow picking up on the phone outside. CNA toward the inside sidled on with hot springs. It's market off coming down till the final furlong. Bricks Motor now charging hard they pass the sixteenth and its bricks and mortar and market market office. Not going down without a fight at smart off Marketa fan bricks mortar bobber bricks. Mortar dived out of the fairgrounds buyer. We mentioned earlier how consistently close the finishes are on turf since horses. There have quicker closing kicks and also helps when the pace is this fast so the trailers have a target. But that's not what happened in our race number six in the lake placid Saratoga. The early pace was slow. Making making it tough for Veronica and Regal Laurien of close but close they did which made for a spine tingling blanket finish. These sophomore phillies. Were very worthy folks. Either here is blow out loud on top. Is The rate start to fall here at the spa out the leader by a lengthy. I'm drawing on the outside. Outside is still second comes Algebra cover on the inside federal by Regal Glory for Rica's fifth. But she's closing down. She's four lengths off the lead in. Here she comes. I got a switch to the far outside of the stretch blow out. I'm Andrea Regal Glorious. Right behind for Greco's closing on the far outside the ball recovered outdoor the royal. Now digging it is out of the inside if I'm in there too. Regal Glory Verandah the poor outside the four coming down to the wire this darkness at Saratoga Tolga Baby Veronica Rica Rica chlorine right duck together on the wire and the president it is dead. He Dead Heat for the win between number one again number five regal glory. It was the second straight win for Veronica the Third Regal Glory at Saratoga. The most I heralded meet of all perhaps both will return four year old phillies and battle head to head from spring to fall. We're only halfway wave home and counting down. The year's top races still ahead. A much maligned. Grace tingles the spine. Odd Three year old is overtaken in the end and a rivalry renewed of the ultimate kind. So don't go away as we walked the suburban garden gnome Catholic Catholic without disturbing it. Notice that it moves like not at all. It's inanimate what an utterly with how brain function but despite that when it got known about how Geico not only saves people money but also gives them access to licensed agents twenty four seven online and over the phone. It's clear to them. You should switch because yes. Switching to GEICO is a no brainer second thought. Maybe don't watch. Garden gnomes to carefully elite. People might talk. We're counting down the races of the year for two thousand nineteen but before we return their of bonus for you. This happened overseas and didn't involve an American horse. But the judd international must get its do crystal ocean had won the Prince of Wales at Royal Ascot. Battled enable hard in the King George in the Judd monde-international against the Irish Colt named Jeff and to victory would crystal ocean forge. And it's circus maximus that these men. Here Don Micro. Brian ahead there of crystallization. Second James Doyle ready to pounce then inferred on the outside is is Japan with Alarcon pushed on his inside these to having a decent battle crystal should now is being produced a takeover crystal ocean is the made to their O'Brien Sandwich. Vibrant uh on the inside weakening circus maximus Japan on the outside Crystal Ocean. Digging deep was he always does Chris. Ocean just will take out in front as Japan comes back back to him. Japan and Crystal Ocean Chris Alongside response on the inside japodlay outside Taiwan Japan. The May just every crystal Osho we return to the grass stateside as we continue our countdown. This time it's the long distance variety and went top forces run on turf in American racing. You can probably guess who. The trainer of the favourite will be Chad. Brown sent Focus Group Post Word and the Panamerican at Gulfstream him to start his five year old season but while shaking off the rust was hard it made for a great finish. It's number five in our countdown. And here's the reason breath with the advantage. It's village king. kennesaw moves into the clear to try to take him on second salute. The colonel is third focus. Group is next MEL match shown open racetrack bicoastal Leno finishing up nicely solely on the outside top lane with the advantage it still village king. What go down the center toward the rail focus group rope with kennesaw moments? Getting in a touch focus. Group has delayed no surging too much focus group not much. Wanted the lugging on hobby. It didn't focus group right alongside number one focus group got the nod. The three year olds. Sprinter chance chance a lot had dazzled Saratoga with a twelve length win in the grade to Amsterdam so for the Alan Jerkin stakes most observers naturally thought that through the the field. He'd be a battering Ram but Saratoga is. Monica has been graveyard of favorites and sure enough young Shantz. A lot was booked in the Allen. Jerkins race number four in our races of the year with the speedy Colt. Run too hard and get hooked around the turn. They go entities shed Salaheddin Salahaddin front the leader by length call Paul continues to pursue him midway on the far turn. The half was forty five point. Five eight seconds mine controllers three links off. Put them at that. It's the biggest southern side and Roehampton coming to the top of the stretch and chancellor turned for home in front opening up a two length lead. Call Paul tries to stick with him. A prolonged Iran chance allowed set down for another eight mile. A two and a half lake lead call. Paul Robeson might patrol and Haw Creek three customer outside. They're all coming. Show got close to Home my control but very close the shots shot someone hold on patrol. was there to sell all Greek ETA. Churkin's numbers six mind-control was first for mind control. The Allen Jerkins was his third win of the year. All three would come when trying just one bend chance chance. A lot would try the same tactic in the Breeder's Cup sprint and held off all but Matola in the end. Mackenzie was once Bob Baffert. Pick to win the the triple crown. He then got hurt and along came justified but McKenzie returned that fall and notched a great one win on each coast and his chances of adding another another one were high when he went post. Myrddin the big CAP. Santa Anita's signature race awaiting him. The six year old gift box. The big calf happens race. Three in our countdown for a long time to come race fans will tell their stories. About this vaunted three a prime attraction action still there gift box link back Second Mackenzie there has been any change. You campaign starts to pick it up just a bit on the outside of Prints of Arabia. Five six tenths of a Mile Toco. Prime attraction gift box kept box put says gray headed front. Mackenzie makes his move on me outside taking second and here is the mattress gift box and Mackenzie Square off in the cabin. Mackenzie comes right dorm with a furlong left ago. It's get box at McKinsey in a showdown Mackenzie or get box. Knows neither one mackenzie plots McKinsey Mackenzie Raymond. Mamoun is eighty six and racing forty two years but never had had experienced great success and present. He owns just one horse with a modest pedigree who was made the winner circle his address. Imperial Hint had won six graded stakes entering this fall including the Vosper. The previous year. Both men and horse had come from modest means to reach the zenith the kind of story to make you stand and cheer in the Twenty Nineteen Bosberg. Imperial Hint had a worthy challenge from a horse who won a great one two years ago. You wouldn't expect the boss bird to be number two in our countdown but badges shows what US racing journalists no around the far turn here. You'll you'll hit the leader Rennes. A fire sits to links behind him as they make their way toward the top of the stretch. It's a long way back to Brown Buckeye in American power as the turn for home here. The half bio goes up in forty four point six five seconds. And they're into the stretch and Javier Castellano and imperial hint have a full In forensic fire and a rat Ortiz and these to hook up at the gate pole and forensic fire has taken the lead imperial hip. We'll try to battle that so I can do it forensic fire coming back. Thanks to coming Farrakhan's period comeback always got so much karachay. Fire was right with them on the wire number. Four imperial hint was first imperial hint would start five five times this year. Two wins three thirds but those two wins were great once he now has four Ferenza firewood. Start Nine Times three wins though. Oh none were graded. Will he returned in two thousand twenty for more but that brings us to our race of the year of rivalry renewed between two of the greatest greatest females in the land midnight Bijou from the West and late her eastern rival throwing it down in the Saratoga Sand Lake late had run this race last year. The Personal Ensign against Abel Tasman. Roughly run a fair where Abel Tasman all but ran a late right through the rail yet. The results stood Abel Tasman by a hair this year. The challenge was even greater midnight. Be Su had won two great ones and five races overall. She'd beaten the late twice but the latter entered off two wins. It's the personal. Ensign Gary Coleman has the call unlinked and Jose Ortiz third on the backstretch. Here the two and a half links off the midnight zoo is just alongside of Golden Award at the back of the pack. They're inside the half-mile pole trucks continues to lead the way by a length and a half. She's at Julian elite heads. Apart second and third that it's wildcat midnight appeasers fifth. She's opening now and the latest to is. They make their way to the top. Stretching Dow elite mixer move for the Midnight Zoo cups blasting them on the outside after her. These two will turn for home together and it's all late detach midnight zoo her fearsome poll outside and these two ooh what a sixty picco later the inside appeaser. On the outside the wire who's GonNa be. How close was it or was it a late? They were inseparable on the water. There number one midnight visa was first midnight visa and a late would upstage traverse day with a race. So good that you shake your head and laugh midnight. Visa would take the Belle Dame but then be overtaken by bloop rise in the Breeders Cup distaff. The late would finish finished second in the spinster before which bill dot considered the Breeders Cup classic against the boys but a late would come in fourth in the distaff against her female peers. Here's the lying how she ran with grace and points. So that's our countdown for this year. Did you agree with our rankings. is they were race. You think you you should have heard feel free to drop us a line and let us know how well we did. Perhaps you felt our countdown was absurd but for all the trouble seeing this this year in the racing industry these great battles are what it's all about both see you back same time next year countdown. Two Thousand Twenty with more great races of that I have no doubt.

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Bullet Points | What are we learning from lockdown?

The Emma Guns Show

16:09 min | 3 months ago

Bullet Points | What are we learning from lockdown?

"Hello Hi and welcome to another episode of the Magan. Show and a midweek but it points. It's good to me that we've talked a lot on this podcast and in the facebook group for the show about how to manage in lockdown whether that's adapting to working from home suddenly becoming a teacher being around your spouse partner or family twenty four seven basically. We've all in our own. Ways had to learn to contend with a quite unusual set of circumstances and right at the beginning of lockdown or actually I think when lockdown was imminent. I did a focused about how to transition from work to working from home and the mistakes I'd made when I went free lots eight years ago that I didn't want to make therefore making your transition hopefully a much smoother. The last couple of days have been my most challenging since lockdown began. Because I haven't been well. I had a migraine that lasted and really stopped me being able to do much more than shuffle from one soft furnishing to another for two days. Today I feel much better if you're migraine sufferer suffer. You'll know that even when you feel well again. It's amazing how you can still feel drained for a couple of days. Even after the migraine itself has passed so having that migraine really three before loop because my whole structure which I talked about in that first. Podcast inevitably crumbled and yesterday being a Monday. I didn't get up and do my workout. Which is how I like to my Monday. And my day. Anyway whether it's going for a walk all during one of my circuits and I barely looked at the laptop all my phone because if I did I just felt sick in the afternoon I did force myself to go outside for a walk in the park because it was actually one of the last beautiful days of the month and also the forecast for the next week is for rain and I thought well I know. I'm not feeling brilliant but I'd rather go out and even if I get to the end of the road and turn back because I think I'm GonNa be better to have tried and failed into have not tried a tool and I always do you find. Fresh air gives a little bit of respite with an an migraine. But there we go so park that I walk in has loads of little pause that you can take. And there's one quite narrow path that normally people just walk doesn't matter what direction you know walking in both directions. Everyone just walks past each other. But right now with social distancing you just can't but it's about thirty meters long of someone's on that path and you have to wait. It's very obvious that you're waiting for them. And you just wait intake your turn. Yesterday the woman waited for when she came out the end of the part that she said to me. Isn't it so lovely? That people are being courteous and thoughtful of others. And isn't it really wonderful? Everyone seems much happier more relaxed. It definitely made me think and obviously there's a much bigger picture to this. Situation isn't so positive but carried on my walk. I start to think about that first. Podcast I did what I had learned about working from home. And how we're all on a new learning curve right now in the lockdown so it seemed a good time to ask the question. What are we learning from lockdown? Now obviously this is something I'd love to open up and discuss with you all in the facebook group. The linked to join is in the show notes which can be found wherever it is that you are listening to streaming downloading whatever it is. You're doing wherever you're listening to it. That's why the show notes are but for what it's worth. I thought I'd share the five things. I've noticed lash learned in lockdown and I feel are positives the first one I have a new understanding of what can be achieved in an hour now in that original poker I talked about structuring your day and breaking it down into hour long segments preferably if you are able moving from room to room so you don't feel stagnant now. I've lived in studio before so. I know that you can't really do that in a studio but you know you get my point just moving around too so changing the sheets that she nery changing the scenery up a bit like a lot of e from what's been shared in the facebook group. I was tidying organizing spring cleaning a lot. But you have a limited number of those sorts of tasks that you can do before you end up running out and then you can feel a bit. Lost reading was something that I always found indulgent because I should in inverted commerce be doing something else. It felt like a luxury. Even though I do a lot of reading for work I have to add something I need to do it. Something always struggled to stop. Sit Down and do because it feels as though it sits at the bottom of any priority list. Am I still have that kind of? Ptsd from school. Where if you're sitting down during nothing. Meeting New teacher is going to come and say. Why aren't you at such and such a? Why are you doing this? But since lockdown I have come to appreciate how valuable an hour of reading really is and how much value it adds to my day but also to my work and it stands to reason when you think about it you learn when you eat so I guess now I appreciate and I really don't get how useful those quiet hours sitting reading a breathing to be another way to spend an hour which is lovely but another less productive than reading is to revisit is to revisit old albums now being a woman in her forties. I used to as a kid buying album to stay with my dad's to be honest and listen to it from start to finish. When I say steel eibar eighteen year they were as riveted. I was as riveted then by the tape. Reels going around in the cassette player as I am now by Benjamin Books. And that's an I just focus on listen to the music for as long as the take lasted apartment. I had to turn it round. Play two or the second side now. Many of the albums I listen to growing up with between fourteen fifty minutes so actually listening to an album from start to finish while doing something and full disclosure. I was listening to Beastie boys licensed to ill when I was planning out. This episode has become a really lovely part of my day. It's Stahl Jake. It brightens up my day. And it's become a really lovely thing to do so also on my list if you're interested surfer. Rosa by the PIXIES Common Philemon heads by the lemon heads. Guns and roses appetite for destruction. Shake your moneymaker by the Black Crowes. Step by step by new kids on the block because why the Hell Not? I think the point. I'm trying to make here is that I'm learning to value that my time doesn't need to be always been pushing doing working etc for me to be productive. Don't get me wrong. I have bills to pay and a lot of people. The virus definitely impacted my work life but I can only control what I can control. I've said it so many times on the Po cost but clearly even I keep forgetting my own advice but sometimes you loosen your grip on a goal. Relax actively stop stressing then you can actually make more progress than if you're pushing really hard towards something and I'm I keep having to remind myself that at the moment the second thing and this also concerns time and not what can be achieved in an hour but how quickly sometimes that seem laborious and annoying actually are how quickly something that you can build up in your mind to being the big mammoth task. That have to do how quickly they can be done. And a really good example of this is vacuuming. I'm not a big fan of it but I hate a well-trodden carbon a dusty floor. So vacuuming is an essential part of my day. And I'm just going to say this in my notes it says hoovering but Jen. Jen's voice came into my head said who was a brand name. It's kimmy which is true in joke. Vacuum is the actual. Hoover is a brand name. But it's like it's one of those things that came out of the vernacular anyway is one of those things you can easily say. Oh I don't have time but the truth is having all this time has made it obvious these tasks. Don't take that long to put this to the test. Because I am not bitch. I actually timed myself. Who wearing my entire flat to COPPARD BEDROOMS? A wooden fluid living room and kitchen and it took me six and a half minutes. Now got to change the settings on the vacuum cleaner when I changed obviously but I did a damn good job but it was around six to seven minutes now I know this icon on no it. So it's going to be so much harder to do the old. I'll do it later when we are out of luck. Down and time feels different again. The same is true for cleaning the bathroom. It's one of those tasks I always put off but then really enjoy the results when I've done it because I'd like to go all in get the shower. Doors gleaming get the mirrors gleaming. We'll get the services absolutely pristine and again. I think I probably went to town on my bathroom at the weekend. In a D twenty minutes it feels like it should take about an hour but it takes about twenty minutes so there we go. The third thing I've noticed is doing it yourself or doing it less and this is another one that centered around household chores. But I'm sorry we're spending a lot more time at home so it's obviously going to keep cropping up but is anyone else doing laundry. I've noticed I'm much more likely to let a washing pile build up than try to stay on top of everything with daily washes and also doing a lot more washing rather than stacking the dishwasher. And maybe maybe it's about a sense of achievement or the fact. I only cook for one so there's usually not a lot of washing up to do but I quite enjoy finishing my dinner. I'm washing everything up. Drying it and putting it away before I walked down the kitchen surfaces ready for my coffee making in the morning. These are the things I would never have even taken the time to enjoy or appreciate but now they're reading is way particularly the washing of the food to sort of end the day and then start relaxing regards. Just maybe it's just me. We will have a discussion about this in the facebook group Bay please. The fourth thing I've noticed is feeling less rattle. And destructed now. I heard something really interesting. The other day on the news and since lockdown that have been a lot of changes especially with regard to the environment pollution levels in big cities dropping dramatically bud singing again marine life returning to bodies awards. They hadn't been seen in years. I had that seismic activity has dropped significantly across the globe. Because there's less impact on the earth surface viewer. 'cause this construction basically by being locked down we are rattling the surface of the earth. A lot less and this made me think about how we all rattled and bumped on a daily basis whether that's Bhai people responsibilities alerts whatever it might be just constantly being knocked. Najd poked. Now I know. A lot of people are experiencing anxiety for the first time or are experiencing anxiety new way. They haven't before and that's understandable because you know pandemic but I've been chatting to a lot of friends lately who have expressed that they actually on the whole feel calmer yes. The bigger picture is scary but the daily precious have changed lifted and reduced in some cases. Not for everyone. I completely understand not based on being thoughtless but a few of my friends is that they feel. They have the space to be a lot more pragmatic and less reactive. I'm curious whether you think that's the same view I can see both sides. Some people load of read their burdens of really been added to other people not having constant. I don't know a lot of people are finding that not being in an office has made them check out a lot more because they can focus on their tasks and much more linear way rather than thinking about other things that actually have turned out to not be as important. There we go. What do you think as much as this whole situation is thrown up a whole raft of new stresses? I do feel as though it's allowed me and some of my friends to let go of others and have you found that even if you feel as though you're doing a lot more on your bed and his increase do you feel about. You've you've understood and let go of the things that maybe were holding on to you previously. And now you're just like I just don't have time for that nonsense. It's not important anymore. I'm curious let's chat about it in the facebook group and finally there is appreciation and enjoyment on you appreciating and enjoying things a little more than you used to and buy things. I mean for example. Something that you do every day fat previously you doin pine whether that's your beauty routine brushing your teeth. Showering washing your hair. If you regular listener you'll know that my approaches skincare is less pampering and more results driven and while I do love functional skin-care regime. I've started taking a couple of minutes to apply body. Lotion and not just apply quickly massage in body Lotion and a couple of times a week. I'm using a body scrub and rather than just quickly. Actually take time and try to do it properly. So not sort of like go to town on Myself. Really vigorously with salt scrubbed. Try and get the best result but actually just very slowly tried to do it. The way that I know massage therapist but do it with somebody in a solemn would do it and it's just obviously it's much nicer experience than potentially scratching yourself. I have a heightened appreciation for these treatments and actually put my feet up with hydrating. Facemask something. I often tell you my most exit listeners to but never find the time to do myself and I'm also giddy every day about finishing yoga. Which is how I even on the weekends but on Monday Friday. I finished work. I do Yoga and then I cook and I am Giddy about finishing up yoga and going into the kitchen to cook. Does anyone else do this? I've come so besotted with following a recipe and producing a delicious meal. I can't even tell you. I've said it so many times by follow recipes from Ian. Hey seven-day basket and I really enjoy the process of taking a load of ingredients and turning them into something delicious side note. I had a video consultation with Annabel kingly from Philip Kingsley. The other day about my hair loss. I think I said earlier in the year I was going to run. Pop had What I was going to treat it and stopped using topical Shampoos and conditioners and start actually investigating the more Clinical stuff and At the end of the consultation or during the consultation. I said I definitely felt to say the quantity of my hair had improved over the last six months. I put it down. I mentioned that dyson which I've talked about on TV. How because it's not as hot? I thought maybe my health had improved but after going through my notes and talking for over an hour and Annabel actually said one of the reasons that I might have seen an improvement in the quality and health of my head might have been switching to cooking fresh every day so turns out to have a lot thank ends book for and obviously if you're listening to this and you're thinking Oh Amer really. You're waiting till the end of the Post. Tell us about las consultation. Of course Ali sharing my experience with you but if you have any specific questions please. Dm me or email me. But I will be doing that and a whole separate episode because it was a really really fascinating experience and I want to do it justice. I haven't had the treatment protocol the Annabelle has prescribed yet. But once I started I will begin to tell you a little bit about it because there's no point me telling you about it now because I haven't tried it but I can tell you. The video consultation was really really interesting. So whether you have any questions about this about the things that you've noticed since lockdown the learnings that you're going to try and take away. Oh have noticed. Dam May on instagram and twitter. Where I'm at Amazon's email me at the beauty. Podcast at gmail.com. You know. It's the favorite part of my day when I hear from you and More so than washing up more so than do my yoga more so than Myself role with assault scrub my favorite part of my day is hearing from you so please be shy about getting in touch. It's been lovely actually say mini if you've been chatting to me on. Dm On email definitely noticed that has increased since lockdown me. We should've been point six. But I've definitely noticed. That's increased lockdown. So thank you so much for taking the time whether it's taking the time to spend it with me on these shows or taking the time to get in touch and share your thoughts about episodes or to ask request for episodes in the future because I never load of you Vosper particular topics and trust me. If you ask. I put them on a list and I try to make them happen. Thank you so much for listening. Please don't forget to join that. Facebook GROUP WANTS. This show goes live. I will start a threat in the facebook group about what? You are all learning from lockdown. So please do join your fellow most exit listeners in that group by finding the link in the show notes which can be found wherever it is that your streaming and downloading this episode clicking the link answering the questions agreeing to the forum rules and I will be there along with thousands of other listeners. To welcome you with open arms and a Gif. Thank you so much for listening. I will see you on the next one.

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#022  Jak by dobrym czowiekiem? (Cz.2)

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38:48 min | 8 months ago

#022 Jak by dobrym czowiekiem? (Cz.2)

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7. Edith Thompson

Shedunnit

21:54 min | 1 year ago

7. Edith Thompson

"On the morning of the ninth of January nineteen Twenty-three brutal and horrifying execution took place at Holloway prison in London. The condemned young woman screened cried. But no last minute reprieve arrived just before nine AM is injected over the sedative and then off brandy as well. Too common of it's still took for people to drag her out to the brick shed where and awaited. She was strapped into a boatswain's chaff. A white hood was over her head and anew surround her neck, she was badly conscious. When at the stroke of nine the trap door open, and she fell to her death. At exactly the same time in a different prison a mile away. The man she loved fell also she was buried in the prison grounds and for decades her family begged inveigh to be told what her grave was located. Us had been a life of passion and fantasy a well wind of imagination. She created to escape a humdrum suburban existence. I love always maintained that the murder they were hanged for was his idea alone. But she was convicted by jury immersed in the strict moral code of a by gone era that so have frankness love of romance and enjoyment of sex as proof of guilt enough long after she was dead has story would inspire authors. Like James Joyce Amdallai field. Dorothy, I'll say is Sarah waters and more you can find traces of it in many detective novels published in the decade since. This is the story of Edith Thompson. Welcome to she done it. I'm Caroline Crompton. It's not hard to see why the life and death of Edith Thompson proved so captivating for crime writers in the general public alike. It reads like a ready made morality tale or an inverted very story in which the heroine finds how prince only for her happily ever often it turned into a nightmare that ends in the hangman's noose a caused a sensation. While it was happening in nineteen twenty two and it has continued to fascinate people ever since the events themselves. What we would call the plot. If this was a novel rather than a horrifying Mitri story a shocking enough, but it's really the characters and backgrounds of the people involved make this tale. So compelling and to really understand that we need to go right back to the beginning. It is great him was bone on Christmas day in eighteen ninety three in east London. She was the eldest of five children of prosperous lower middle class. Parents her father William was o'clock and her mother Ethel, a housewife whose father was a policeman. William also had a part time job as a dancing teacher. And his daughter grew up to love before me. She left school at the age of fifteen in nineteen o nine and worked in the fashion industry doing well at a London Millan reform. She was promoted several times until she became their teeth buyer and even traveled twice to Paris work before the idea of the flapper had really taken stronghold in the British psyche. Edith exhibited a lot of the traits associated with that nineteen twenty stereotype, she was a hardworking career woman. She loved her fun. She put off having children, she had bobbed hair. She spoke French the list goes on. In nineteen oh nine Edith. Also, Matt Percy Thompson as shipping clock. Three years has senior. They were engaged for six years eventually getting married in nineteen sixteen when Edith was twenty one she kept working and the pair initially lived in south end before buying a house in the Audi's London bar of Ilford, the Thompsons live what appeared to be a happy, comfortable, married life. But judging by what happened next it would seem Edith was actually board or even depressed an Uni suburban grown up existence. The fateful meeting that would set Edith on the course to that boatswain's chair happened in nineteen twenty when she we connected with a young man, she had first met nine years before when he took dancing lessons from her father Frederik by waters was now in eighteen year old ships known Reese, you it. He was handsome and full of stories about his travels at sea. He was already friendly with Edith younger sister. Avis, and it seems that Percy like Tim to I. Because all four of them went on holiday that summit. The isle of white afterwards Percy suggested that Frederick lodge with the Thompsons in Ilford on the rare occasions that he got leave from his ship. And by what is accepted? What happened next feels inevitable? Now looking back at this story with the advantage of hindsight. But I'm sure is Edith was living it she felt like every glance from Frederick held a new and fascinating tential to save her from her humdrum existence. Not long after returning from that some holiday she and Frederick began an affair conducted under her husband's knows the house in Ilford. Of course, Bessie found out in the ensuing argument Frederick demanded that her husband allow if divorce that others could be together. But Percy just raged banished him from the house. Edith said later that Percy became violent afterwards hitting her several times and throwing her across the room. Frederick went to see again his job in September nineteen twenty one and remained away for a whole year. It's not hard to imagine the dispatch that Edith faced while he was away her borings above in life, rendered even worse by the deteriorating state of marriage. The really remarkable part of this. Story. And ironically, the thing that probably influenced the jury Edith trial. The most is what she did during that year that Frederick was away at sea. She wrote and sent him more than sixty long love letters that at least one week for a year that were informed by a love of literature in romantic fiction. There was over fifty thousand words together including details about Edith life her feelings her memories in her. Reading habits in nineteen twenty two Frederick returned to London on leave and he needed three connected. On the third of Tober Edith and her husband were walking home from Ilford station late at night after going to the theatre in central London. When a man jumped out from behind some bushes by the road and attacked Percy with a knife attack around away and fatally wounded Percy died before help arrived. Later. Neighbors reported hearing a woman screaming no don't repeatedly at the time of the attack. When the police arrived Edith identified the attacker as Frederick by waters and explained his connection to herself. And her husband. I can only assume that she was confident at this point that she was considered to be just a witness to the crime. Otherwise, it seems like a strangely helpful way for murder suspect to behave. It was only after detectives had investigated by waters and found all of Edith let as he had kept that she was drawn into the investigation proper, the letters you see contained references to set and thrill as Edith had read including one called Bella Donna by Robert Hitchens in which a wife poisons husband as well as frequently declaring a passionate love for Frederick. These missives also hinted at a desire that he should replace perseus her husband possibly using violent means to bring this about if necessary at one point she claimed to Frederick that she tried to murder Percy by putting ground up. Glass in his mashed potato. She also made reference to young woman who lost three husbands while she Edith, cont even lose one. This was enough apparent knee for the police to invoke the lore of common purpose under which all those you plan to murder share, criminal liability for it. Even if only one physically carried out the attack the letters with their inclusion of husband murder tropes hinted Edith complicity in the attack. The police felt both Frederick and Edith were arrested and charged with Percy's murder. Edith Thompson in Frederick by waters were tried together at the Old Bailey and under the proceedings opened on the sixth of December nineteen twenty two they both had famous lawyers defending them Edith. I Henry Curtis Bennett had earlier that year appeared for the awesome poison her but rows out strong. I'm by Wattez lawyer Cecil Whiteley had in nineteen fifteen defended the brides in the bath Mudra, George Joseph Smith, it was a media frenzy surrounding the case ready with papers all over the country. Running breathless stories about the Ilford murder and the attractive young lovers in the dock the trial only lasted a few days because Frederick made all quite straightforward. He had cooperated fully with the police even showing them where the knife yet used a stab Percy was hidden. He insisted throughout the he had acted completely alone and without Egypt's knowledge, and that she was Uttley innocent of the crime. He said that his own intention had not been to murder Percy. But to confront him and frightened him into agreeing to release Edith from them ridge, Frederick explained that he'd lost his tempo and Bercy seemed to find the idea funny. And that's when things turned violent. The case against eat is like it would easily collapse. There was no material evidence to link to the planning of the crime beyond the vague suggestions in her letters to Frederick and lawyer felt show that you could argue those represented mealy and infatuated women's fantasies rather than any concrete intention to act or cause harm Percy's body was even exumed and home office pathologists, including Bernard spills Brey who we met in episode two during the trial of Dr Crippen could find no evidence the he'd been fed glass or poison as the lettuce suggested this gave way to the idea that what Edith had written in the letters is really just the result of her imagination running wild and could therefore be discounted in gold. So how did it all go so wrong for Edith Thompson afterwards? I lawyer put her conviction down to the fact that she'd insisted on giving evidence in her own defense. Haricot ran a vice writes that she was convinced that if she spoke she could convince the jury that her relationship with Frederick was no sordid suburban fair. But rather a grand romantic passion. She had been mortified by hearing her love letters, read out tone, Nestle in court and seeing her parents, humiliated in tears vice rights she felt that she could set the record straight and as well as secure in her own release. She thought she might be able to convince the judge not to sentence Frederick to death. Unfortunately, her appearance seems to have had the opposite effect. She contradicted herself on the witness stand appeared, alternately melodramatic and self pitying. When asked about what she'd been thinking when she wrote some specific passages in the letters. She said she couldn't remember the judge Simone to she. Timon particularly seemed inclined against her since he began the part of his summing up that referred to her without even using her name as for the woman he declared disapprovingly before going on to remind the jury of that duty to deliver a verdict only based on the evidence at he presented in the case. The guilty. Verdict was delivered on the eleventh of December both Edith and Frederick was sentenced to death by hanging to the salacious delight of the newspaper voters in the press gallery Edith collapsed in hysterics at the news while Frederick shouted loudly about rennaissance since he was nine years young than her commentators enjoyed portraying him as an innocent youth led astray by manipulative older woman. He was a mere romantic chivalrous. Boy one wrote. Of course, this could have been what happened if Edith Thompson was indeed manipulative enough to have pushed Frederick by as buttons until he stabbed her husband to death. It is possible that she could also put on her extraordinary contradictory courtroom performance because she thought it would muddy the waters and get him a lighter sentence. It seems less likely though than the theory that ran a vice and others of put forward. Edith was just a sentimental flight. Young woman who completely lost her head when her romantic love took things too. For. A big part of miscalculation was in how the public and crucially the jury would respond to letters. It's possible. Of course, the thought Frederick would destroy them. So they could never be read by anyone. There was a heavy vein of sexism in the way that the case against her was built because the prosecution argued that love fanciful remanded books led her to indulge in lethal fantasies eventually lead to action. They made no such claim about by waters. Of course, he was reading will this stuff too. There was still ideas around in the nineteen twenties about the harmful effective, romantic or sentimental. Fictional women. It lingered for a long time because it's the same joke that Jane Austen was making fun of when she wrote north hangar abbey in eighteen or three Frederick did say during the trial that Edith liked to read a book imagine herself as the character in the book, not thinking that the jury would take that as an indication that she actually wanted to act out the role of murderous in the thrillers that she enjoyed reading Edith biographer Ren a vice. Has also hinted. A theme I discussed in the first episode of this podcast as an explanation for why she was convicted without any substantial evidence against her in nineteen twenty two Britain was still gripped by the idea compounded by the figures released for the nineteen twenty one senses that the country contained over a million more women than men after all of the male casualties in the first World War as I showed in that episode. This isn't strictly correct demographic terms, but this idea of the surplus women as disposable and unwanted was a powerful force regardless and to social conservatives at the time Edith Thompson was not a womanly woman. She worked she danced she'd been married for six years without having a child so presumably used contraception and she wrote in her letters to buy waters about how she enjoyed sex and had had an abortion if guilty. She had also wrote about the needless deaths of two men seen in this light. It's no wonder she was sentenced to death. She was a surplus woman written would be better off without a Louis did appeal the verdict, but unsuccessfully there was even public petition to stop the executions of Edith in Frederick with over a million signatures, but that was rejected to less than a month after her conviction. Edith was dragged into that shed Holloway prison and hanged as well. As being almost unconscious when it happened. She also bled a lot. I witnesses said it looked like insides fell out subsequent commentators, including vice have interpreted this as miscarriage suggesting that it was possible that Edith was pregnant if so she should never have been hanged the lower of the time forbade it even if not it was rever woman to be hanged the tool. Egypt was the first in sixteen years. The influence of this case on the crime writers of the day was profound and long lived the real events was so dramatic an improbable that they couldn't help but capture the imagination of those who made this stuff out for a living. Martin Edwards documents many of their reactions in his book, the golden age of murder. So I recommend seeking that out. If you're interested in learning more, the first novel to appear based on this so-called Ilford murder came out just a year after Thompson's execution methylene of the suburbs by EM della field, he might know her is the author of the semi autobiographical diary of a provincial lady. But she was also a novelist and close friend. If the golden age detective writer Antony Barkley, he also dwelt on the idea of a wife, inciting love to murder, her husband view times in different books. Most overtly in nineteen thirty nine ads for the woman and in nineteen thirty seven the authors you made up the famous detection club, which will be learning. More about in a future episode, by the way, published a book. Of true crime essays, titled the anatomy of murder in which partly wrote about Edith Thompson, unhappily married and prone outside passions himself, he felt strongly that she was executed for adultery. He said rather than for an actual crime, one of the most interesting novels to be influenced by the case was the documents in the case a nineteen thirty collaboration between earthy L says on the scientist, Robert Eustis, the whole story is told through letters and documents relevant to the case. So the Rita feels as if they are playing the role of detective themselves it to features a young wife, a sort of suburban vamp, they call her. He starts affair with the Loja and therefore ambiguously implicated in her lover's later actions. It's perhaps not as pacey as lupita whimsey novel and is a bit too wrapped up in the genius technicalities of the murder method rather than having properly compelling characters, but it's an interesting take on the relationship dynamics on the less the. The actor Frank Vosper. He would go on to star in Alfred Hitchcock's the man who knew too much and dying suspicious circumstances himself in nineteen thirty seven wrote a play about Edith Thompson and Frederick Biwott as cold people like us it opened in London in nineteen twenty nine but was swiftly banned by the Lord Chamberlain because of its supposedly racy content and then remained unperformed until nineteen forty eight this players intern referenced in the Christie's nineteen forty-nine novel crooked house when an actress suggests that a murder in the family is the ideal time to put on the Edith Thompson play. And that quote, there's quite a lot of comedy to be got out of Edith Thompson. I don't think the author realized that exactly what Agatha Christie thought was funny about this case sadly remains undocumented. Alfred Hitchcock was actually closely connected to this case as well since he'd been a pupil at Edith father's dancing school. I remained friends with a younger sister. Avis. He apparently considered making. A film about Edith's demise number of times, but never actually did apps out of feeling for his sister. However, there are traces of the case in his nineteen fifty film stage fright and in the nineteen forty one film suspicion, which stars Cary Grant, and Joan Fontaine and uses ground glass as a murder weapon. Incidentally, this film is actually drawn from Antony Buckley's nineteen thirty two novel before the fact, novelists and filmmakers are still finding inspiration in the case in the works. It's on today as well as the two thousand and one film another life, the right to Sarah waters has written about how it was fringe Tennyson jesse's nineteen thirty four novel about Edith Thompson a pin to see the peop- show that I gave her the idea for the setting of her twenty fourteen bestseller, the paying guests all of the Thompson inspired novels. Give a vision of suburbia filled with CD clocks and sulky housewives she said, which seemed to what is still an ideal setting for thrilling story of murder. Twenty-eight teen Egypt. Thompsons body was lifted out of the mass grave in Brookwood cemetery where it had been laid when Holloway prison was rebuilt in nineteen seventy one off to the ministry of Justice finally allowed an exclamation. And I'm being took it to the city of London cemetery where it was laid in the same grave as her mother and father just as parents had always wanted. She might be at rest at lost. But the story of Edith Thompson zone. It's too extrordinary to be forgotten. This episode of she done. It was written narrated and produced by me. Caroline crompton. You can find more information about all the books and articles that I mentioned in the show notes this episode. She done it show dot com food slash Edith. Thompson you can also read a full transcript I'd like to all my listeners a very happy new year. And thank you very much for sticking with the vote cost into twenty nineteen. If you if you've been in tops to say that you actually discovered the show viruns to Graham, so I'm trying to be better at posting pitches related to the episode's do come and take a look at Edith Thompson at Instagram dot com. Forward slash she'd done it show if you liked to show your appreciation for the vote cost. Do you tell your friends and family about it only rating overview on apple podcasts because it helps the show be more visible to new business? I'll be back on the twenty third of January with a new episode. Next time on she done. It dining with death.

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Part 2: Dave Grening, Rick Hammerle, Gabby Gaudet

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

58:43 min | 11 months ago

Part 2: Dave Grening, Rick Hammerle, Gabby Gaudet

"McGee Jay Brennan and Dave Greg Good Morning the hard act to follow right there well. I think you're up to it and much like we did with Jay. Hey we didn't get a chance to talk last week. Day I saw some of your thoughts on paper and on twitter but quick hit from last weekend the Jockey Club Gold Cup Diku and everything that came with it didn't agree with the call but that's par par for the course for me and the stewarts here good rates by both horses of Abu kind of the call takes away from the performance of both you know Roseville in sort of honor. I thought it was Kinda. Overshadowed what how well they ran I thought it was in solid effort. You know Roy Moore your skin and people give them credit for so he's tactical enough that you're going to go back to the race. In California that he won he was four why but right up on the pace so he can be he can play from the start and still finish finish which is a good thing for him to have going into the classic and Code of honor you know stepped up against a couple of quality older horses and and still continues to show improvement as Shug shoveling transfer your kid and I'm glad they didn't go into stuff. it'll it'll spice it up a bit very much and we talked to show yesterday what turned into a was supposed to be a you know. Tell us about the decision ten minutes turned into forty because because show and you can talk about the current horses and then you can talk about his Breeders Cup record you know he's he's run horses in the Classic Eight Times. He's got two seconds and third and I asked him if he thought you know this was as good or the best one of the best chances that he's had in a classic and he kind of feels it is I think so in part because he's got a quality improving horse and in part because I don't see a real stand out in the division there you know I I was even if Mackenzie had one last week is still affected him at a mile and a quarter. I think come back with a pack a little bit and now I think he's you know emit commit pack there. I you know he he he was not impressive last week and and right now he doesn't have a jockey so that could be a hindrance so I I think the the you know I I think the visual the classic is releasing. My is right now pretty wide open well it it certainly enhances the classic and we got some. Jay's thoughts will also wait for some other news in decisions. Tacitus you know who I could send as many as three with a late and Yoshida. We'll see what the tacitus call is but have you talk to Jimmy later in the week about preservationists. I don't think the preservation and the clock berry good yeah. I kind of. They were Iffy iffy. Even before we got through the jockey there pretty traditional people. You Know Oh you go to the classic going for a good race. You don't go you don't travel cross country now. It's in your own backyard. Maybe maybe say okay. I'm hearing but the put him on. A plane ain't off that race. just doesn't make any sense to me and. I'm not sure what it was tales right now. I wouldn't be surprised if maybe they they just you know. Have you know conclude are dealing. Just say thank you. Thank you for the memories. They were well some other thoughts thoughts about the weekend the the two year old swept by Chad Brown and not necessarily by Chad Brown surfers Dave that were all that highly regarded regarded coming into the early fall. It looks selflessly ran a decent race when she got in her debut. She was a bit why she was just what about a half length behind her stablemate and you know. She got a very nice trip. The other day and you know you beat a field that I didn't necessarily I think was seller but that didn't necessarily like her either so I can't you know I'm not saying that I choose my choice but look it's very you know. Handicapping is hard art. When it comes to the Grillo it's simple to spend on Chad Brown. It just just do it. Does it seven and eight. I've never seen I've Nev- I don't know of any race that he may be bad for our security security and and and dumb or something that just a guy dominates the race like Chad Brown at least in New York dominates the race Jeff Brown dominates the Mus Grill and just you know next year when it comes. I'm just circle the Chad. He's got more the ones at about boxing and you'll walk out with a little more money so any payment structure solid rates you know. I I liked about structure that he showed you different dimension in the first race. It was a slow pace. He was up on it and then he finished and then they got a bit of a faster pace and close close so you like versatility show. I need to know more about what else is in that race before. I say an annoying Kim and enter a the you know a victory in the Breeders Cup Juvenile Turpin juvenile fillies served interesting I said they were aware of it at the time but selflessly not nominated to the Breeders Cup now looks set clemens got that money hidden in his closet somewhere so he can easily put up the supplementary see but it it was a weird kind of a strange thing maybe just crack but be supplemented for the raiders stuff to run and I'm sure she will do well. beyond the two year old stakes stakes midnight zoo in the Belle Dame and got you got you got her legs stretched and did what was necessary. The race as that ended up surprising to some degree aside from everything that went on in the Gold Cup four Horsfield in that Vosper that ended up being really exciting and forensic fire and imperial put on some show down the stretch cool horses you know he's still still Harvard have trouble taking that race threatens fire and last year the parts race horse averaged one the rate just a cool towards I mean that's a super cool horse right there in so small but he's got such big hardy so fast and you know I think they call it a little bit adviser prize when Friends Fire Collared Him and he still had something more to offer and he gave it to him and you know maybe maybe hard race before the Breeders Cup will help him in the Breeders Cup opposed to a couple of cakewalks that he had especially last year Vosper. You just walked around there and now last year Frears Cup. Chances may have been compromised the fact that he just doesn't run it and go to Churchill downs I mean I think he's on there three times. The probably three worst races throughout the worst rates is I thought he may well enough to del Mar a few years ago when he was in the Mitch Breeders Cup and second. I believe but maybe there's hard rates will help him. battle tough because it's a tough rate expensive very very competitor's. Maybe one or better rates on the car to the totally and chance a lot on you know. I guess you have to see what Omaha beach that rates for tomorrow how he runs. A and B what they use it for work. the the the sprint has potential to come up here one of the best races on the card and I think that race will have imperial head registered. Well turn our attention attention to tomorrow and there's a lot there's a lot of intriguing match-ups paper going into Saturday at and there's actually a nice set races on Sunday with the thirty the flower bowl in the present. We gotta start with Champagne and a green light. Go Ah to forego the hopeful. After the track was a a a slop. I don't blame Jimmy Jerkins at all for taking that route however he comes into the champagne now having to go a mile and there are at least is three others that are are major players here not the least of which is Barkley tag and Saka Toga the last time they had a two year old like like this. They kept funny side against New York breads until going to Florida for the holy bull this time they're going to go for an early open company opportunity the and it's at the highest level the first thing. I want to say that this race is there is a major scratching the race three technique. Jeremiah texted me this morning and I put it up on twitter a little while although has a lung infection and we'll come out of the race and I thought he was a significant player in the field so it's down to six source field going at that. Tis The law law you know of course is very impressive. Beating New York reds first time out had shin issue that Barkley took care of list about three weeks total of training but it's gotten back in I saw I saw at least two if not all three of his three of his works here and they're very solid workout you just wonder if the layoff going a mile with the one rate is going to happen ready to do it now. The layoff is very similar to green like oh the day difference so it's not that sort of balances out but green go with tested in stakes company and also has races opposed to one and I just like I just really liked it. I I don't know what he's going to become. I don't know how far is GONNA WANNA run but I just like the way both starts getting solid well built for uh-huh hardy type of horse who just has a great hind end you know where the power generated from and I think like the mile and beyond and I think this has a moment for Jimmy. Sake that the horses say how down and continue on the campaign Jimmy. He says out born whatever that might be but I think it'd be awful strongest training like that rate. The turf classic has got seven going in and the only negative here. There's a nice group in the Joe Hirsch but you kind of turf marathon event. You do hope that you get enough mix and match for for pace to give everybody no. I an honest run and I say that with Sadler's joy in mind. I'm I always find myself kind of rooting for. I'm a huge fan. Zulu Blue Alpha feels like a horse that is the the right price in here drawing inside for Mike Maker and channing hill where you you mentioned the two that I liked the best I think the pace scenario probably comes between the CAT and mouse game between channel and channel maker both have the ability and have one racist on the comedy channel maker last year Turf Classic Joe Joe Hers last year on the lead channel cats at bowling green on the leaves so it's one of those deals where you know it's GonNa be a little bit of jockeys race and it is interesting that channel maker will have Johnny Veon Rosario. I Guess Acumen Tomorrow so that that that's an interesting dynamic Tehrani outside so we can see what size does on channel cat inside I do know one or two will not be on the lead or is Iran or avocado teas that are not come back in in the better run because Chad Brown does not want y'all Primo on the League Let's just hasn't worked out for that and it's going to try and get him off the pace. I do Ralph up really and I think I wrote this in my advance is like when you take out a brick and mortar obviously the the the the most of this and do I was probably the second section with the exception of that war. He's Brunner's right off. Every time this year three wins. Three losses by one violate won long by neck ones by another line. and I just think he's I think he's solid I think he likes the mile and a half and last week probably made a smart decision giving the Sword Dancer answering going into the Kentucky Turf Cup which I believe with Mike makers idea 'cause I talked to Michael Hugh owner last yesterday and he said Mike wanted to kick the ball will get to danced points to raise it up and he probably wouldn't really nicely tactical network the pages slow he can be right there that I jump on and dabbled joy and glow maybe cross-border supply little pace. I I think it's a bit of cross-border but you know I guess you could run here and then they'll run back in the New York red race 'cause I thought maybe he did. I said helping the operator could show up in that. You know those near the end of October. You know a couple of weeks now but I I like Gulu. channing. Hill is back a board here with all the Jockey Mack Matt situations this weekend but but he's has accepted on this is what he wanted to stick more in eighteen from what I'm looking at least three for four on the towards so I'm on overview yeah and he gets to save all the ground and channing hill you know for those that don't remember has written a New York quite a bit so the browns to the rails come down. I think actually down today for the we we're on the turf for three of the five two of defy raises raises five and six today on the graph the other ones. I think it's two three and often but today the rails firewood come down and so being on the inside of probably be beneficial for the most part that'll be you know relatively fresh grown turning to the health prince the three year old restricted group four hundred two thousand two and we've got you know any number of the usual suspects in terms of the three year olds and then you've got a couple of fresh faces including office this showing up with Neptune storm from the del Mar Derby try where he just missed to know the and you've got Taos coming in for Jean Claude Audrey Jay Schwartz Marty Schwarz's obviously boosted this source from Europe and we'll see about whether he's going to stay in North America. then there's red blue really has been kind of a revelation this year for lend green and Karen McLaughlin that really has done done very little wrong dancing all the dances Hanley's joy for Jeff Bloom and maker boy. It's a fun group. Motte with seismic wave and Chad's ads got both digital age and standard deviation for Seth Clarkson and Bourbon War should not be glossed over Dave. That was a very good effort first time I turf up at Saratoga and the better talk now was but I didn't think it was a great a rape I mean he ran okay. they went fast vast income came from off their you know plugged in a little bit in the stretch. I thought I thought maybe I maybe I time Grassy Green and the pardon the pun there but bulletin officer doesn't want to go that far front. I don't know where he ranks on. Chad's listened three year olds on the grass so he ran okay and I thought it was a weaker group. I think this this is a little bit more stronger stronger group but I've seen you know like you were mentioning is is this whole group is sort of you know traveled the same route in the first training periods there and I was looking for a fresh face. I thought maybe Neptune storms interesting that ball to shift from cross country. I did talk to him about it. It yesterday briefly and he said that there's just nothing out there for for feels. Undergrad so he nominated he wanted to see what the what the race book like and you know when he saw orthopedics where he said you know what I I say you know. I think he does he's also Pasco enough. We can lay closer the blinkers off because he doesn't want to be too close. I thought it was funny. I think he said when he first got him the horses very eager and in now he's so totally opposite so I matured or exchanges changes habits a little bit and I think it is you know lay close enough without you can close enough without having to fight Santana. I think he can finish and maybe you know motor on impassive blue being the mother pays pressure there shorting up a little bit we also earlier on the card the Belmont turf sprint went and the matron for the two year olds then we go into Sunday the matron companion race the futurity for the two your old turf sprinters and then the great ones on Sunday the flower bowl in the present some quick thoughts Dave. I know they just drew yesterday and you have to just slap together as some some quick thoughts you know like the Flower Bowl. Sunday is mandatory payout in the rainbow about the empire six for for neither here and smack DAB in the middle of that is this lower bowl and magic ninety. Seven percent of the tickets are going to single system. Charlie early and you're not you're not gonNA see me. Talk anybody off that you go ahead. You can give me the twenty cents. You're going to throw away on the Mississippi and somebody else but I this is good. just she just spent ten hasn't shown us about this this this group and I couldn't I couldn't recommend wouldn't recommend anybody partying with any other money against after watching a breeze every week with bricks and mortar. I mean if you can't get locked up training with Richard mortar legged legged so she she's only two races Jeddah. She hasn't run since August tenth. I get but I I don't. I don't see her getting the best rate of the day of the sacred probably for that. I think it's a big. I think it's wide open. I think you've got some nice daily like whisper. Perceive African definitely move for Jeremiah I'm a little I don't know. I don't know what to make of France rocket. you know talking room and he got off the horse. He didn't think she wants to go this far aw I didn't think she had any excuses really been away I don't think perfect alibi is a monster by any stretch of machinations beat or twice the the at the distances distances longer. She's beating here by more length and understand you know we'll see perfect alibi today in Alabama but I think it's the tweet Jackie Moon wicked whisper throughout not I don't know what to do with Bob. Source Africa cutting horse here. It's like the third in quasi response for third rates and five years. She stressed out to a mile. Just just ran out of timber nineteenth after breaking. Maybe September I I mean I guess he's looking for you know trying to strike while the Iron Pot that that'll cochet quality seventy trying to get some great black pipe made it but you know I think somebody earlier put the finger over the trainer's name. Look at the phillies like I don't know if I that'd be scared of her. I think I think wicked with for Daphne Moon the right ones there now. You're going to try and convince me otherwise on lower. I'M GONNA listen to you so go ahead. I haven't looked looked at it closely. I just Mississippi I thought was so impressive and I can only think pet. She'd be that much better here so I I'm. I'm just let's put it that way. It's not the guy with respect to ground motion as well he just. I just think I think they're sister. Charlie and I think there's everybody we also well and a reminder that I mentioned yesterday. A since GRANDPA is coming up here today at Laurel in the Fifth Fifth Race Three twenty four eastern Irish charmer Graham bringing out the little sister of Irish War cry today at along going six quit. You quit tell. Can you tell the folks what the Post Times are the next three days okay. That's all my four. Oh this is this is one of those one of those challenges that today's gotta be one fifteen in moving yet. Tomorrow I think is twelve thirty twelve twenty off twenty and they will give it to talk up twenty correct and then on Sunday. I'm looking at the overnight twelve forty five. She's got an open quit so you you the one fifteen to review one fifteen to talk with you tomorrow. Forty five on Sunday and also so to review no cross country pick five this weekend particularly for the Sunday action the empire six force out which starts with race five state bread maiden fifties going six and a half on the on the dirt then we've got open company six Furlong Maiden fillies as the Second Lake Third Lake is the few thirty where there's six of them on the grass the two year old boys short then the flower bowl then the present Zack and it closes out with a state bread meeting forty seven on the turf and there was a chance that we were going to run kid chocolate in there except F- he ended up needing a series of antibiotic for Mucus in the lungs otherwise might have been there for that spot so this today when both playing today the track was very wet morning during training I stayed on the May. I think the training track all day. There wasn't much happening there but that's the main try very wet. that it is debris is picking up so we got what we said. It's one fifteen posted a three two and a half hours I guess so then but it started pick up. The breeze and we'll see probably start off his muddy. The good and dry out as the day goes on and again to review surp- situation today second and third and eight are off six are on well dave the most important question going into the fall winter. Are the Rangers going to go to an hour but there was a very encouraging start last night. It was very frustrating walking score and then give up a goal like six seconds late. I said I was watching with my son and I said the SA- they went to three to zero. I hope they don't give a goal twenty seconds later and I was an and it was right. He was like well. He did with nine nine so they got some nice players. I don't think this is their year but I think you're headed in the right direction well and on the topic my sabres start out with a win on the road to kick off the season three two one win at Pittsburgh absolutely real. They play great last night everybody. Anybody actually got one of my favorite. Team is the ranger that anyone who plays the penguin o you're. You're my second favorite team playing hockey. I love it. Dave Greg everybody. Dave I will see you tomorrow. I'll be there looking forward cricket DAVE BRENNAN EVERYBODY OFF GRANICH and Dave with breaking news earlier this week when he was able to able to corral shook and get the news on Code of honor running in the Breeders Cup right now on the road himself. The speaking of Road Games Hammer is back out traveling and he's making his way back to school as announced last week. He's going to do some guests lecturing and guest professor at the University of Arizona the race track industry program Hammer Good Morning Good Morning Steve The road. I love it. I love it and you. I'm sure you're excited about this. the pretty cool. I'm excited absolutely okay. I got a little bit. I got a little butterflies going in because I'm going into different situations but I'm. I'm happily a little bit nervous. 'cause I wanna you WanNa do a good job and and you know kids some realize stuff you know and they're they're. They've really really made a welcome for me to sign because when I came just two weeks ago I was driving the other way coming back home and I drove Soussan and at that time it wasn't a hundred percent so I didn't even stop and I got home and then a couple of days later I found out then all of a sudden. It's like let's get ready radic so we'll put the we'll put the schoolteacher hat on and and and I'm really looking forward to it. It's not gonNA be that the Ridgemont high type deal because I'm going to have a an enraptured audience just going to be upper classes. It's the racetrack programming that wants to move on in the game and hopefully will go have a semester unlike they've had before doubtedly data are you. Are you going to be in. Are they putting you in a dorm or what no no no and but that'd be trouble but so I guess there's some professors on safari or something and and they go moving open to a like a three bedroom house or something so combinations sound like they're gonNa be good and looking forward to ten back Soussan and and you know seeing what it's like. It's GonNa be cool so it's not too far and I got a couple of flights saw the Breeders Cup and couple of other things and just another. It's an hour and ten minutes lights so it's close that way but really I really looking forward to the challenge and I think it will be a challenge but I I'm anxious to to get back. I just talked a little bit ago of course I he's. He was my teacher when I was here. We were talking about it over thirty years ago and you know really really helps you have someone in the game telling you stuff and real life stuff so I'm I'm envisioning doing some different stuff where basically it's it's we have a question and do the training and I'm GonNa get a trainer on the phone. K- ask him you know Error Rate Jack Manager or mutual guy hurt they said we'll we'll send period call John White Making Zeke and explain out do the morning line odds so I put a lot of people on warning and that'd be might be getting a call and I think I'll have to be able to fly some people in the and talk about a few things so exciting according to it'll be exciting because we need some new blood in in the game a lot of Sir are our age her talking about the big six oh coming up and and it's important to get some new news the white blood in the game and and you know get an started right. That's how I came along so really really look forward to it and that's great and I actually I I heard from I heard from Wendy Davis this week to about coming in for symposium at broadcasting this opposing the ninth tenth and eleventh this year of December so we'll be there for symposium hammer and we'll call on you then obviously but plenty of opportunity between now and then let's get the couple of thoughts about the weekend before anything comes comes up well last week a couple of things. I just you know we we talked about the the call in the Jockey Club. I the bad call but I I didn't like it. I I I think at some point you gotTa let these guys ride and and Regis I think part of it's part of the game but these guys have laid down and go so I think both jets got an equal shot and I didn't have a dog in the fight but I was you know see him. Just go work but anyway supposedly we're coming back we'll come back and it was it was a great race but I just sometimes it's just when when you get a good race like that and get horses tidbit riders and they got a clean shot to the wire let him go but anyway for that in the California forty race by one of the the one horse out with me and we liked the source coming in with a horse around seconds to to baffert source in the euro rates the American Carol Georgia Robert Dole at the American theorem that I think think that were super rich and once again is coming into the traps you want to keep your eye on those horses run second third and fourth and they give good race. He stayed with stayed with the people a horse pretty much all the way around. It was first time going long run. Adam flattened out a little bit. I think he's GonNa be a lot stronger coming back. You Yeah One thing I noticed that they did a homework last night of course left all my notes in the drought so gough memory here but a loudest Lulu at eight nine two year old races this weekend coming up a majority of the horse. I noticed have have one start. That's it so. I don't know that's like a lot more one starters than normal so I think you're gonNA keep underneath to keep your eye on somebody's forces and and and like you said this is a trap some of these forces that are GonNa win the Breeders Cup. Maybe you are going to finish second and third at a decent odd or going to necessarily win to keep an eye in some of the trips and I think you're gonNA see some surprises. I don't know where they're gonNA come from but there's some resources out there that are trying different things to the first time a Lotta OUGHTA. I noticed that some of the sprints a lot of dirt ors is trying to trying to go on the grass and some of the horses in the in the longer races go along for the first time and another thing I noticed as I handicap you know all the races all over was todd pletcher who said kind of a quiet year two hundred seventy any five rates is. I don't know how he can have a quiet year whenever it his name a whole lot threat a year a little bit here a little bit there. He's loaded lightly loaded. He's got a lot of the races a lot of the two year old races some of the older horses as I looked for him to have a pretty darn good breeders cup coming inside keep an eye on a couple of his sources sources for sure and the classic prep out here with the McKenzie deal Um. I think you've brought a question. good point about. Is that really amounted really want to go on a quarter. you want to keep your eye on the track out here in San Antonio which spent a little I think Jay had a good description. It's still the speed but it's doll It's not that outbreak lake type of speed and you see a lot of horses. Kinda struggling sometimes the last eight mile so I think George tomorrow did with his his spreader coming out early early eighties getting onto the track and getting a race over the track whether he he's GonNa get used to it whether he's GonNa like it or not. We'll see but at least Soviet able to address and I think we'll find out tomorrow. I mean how obviously the speed of the race. It looks like paper. He's just just run away from this group and we'll see how he handles the race to. I think the racetrack might come into play a little bit when we get when we get to the Raiders Cup but I speaking of the Breeders Cup you know for me. It's a little different now looking in from the outside. I'm actually GONNA be able to go and not have to Dionne duty so to speak and and enjoy it so I've I've been checking out all this stuff on on the Internet a little bit and I ran across but it for me but that's series. The raiders kept done. It's called all in. I don't know if you've seen any of those. Those sure we talked. We talked to the Hannigan good last year when when John was yeah where they were when they were filming. They were producing so oh well. He produces them along with with bobby. A production company and I watched a few. I watched the trailer for this year. Wow this is really good and then I start watching a couple of the of the episodes of last year and wow what a great inside look at some of the people you know involved in the in the road to get there and you know just how or should you arctic spots running. Breeders Cup race in and the quality was good. I and then I read a little article has bobby. It'd it's usually me and my production production company. Didn't I wonder what was done so well so if you guys anybody hasn't seen this the new season two's coming up. There's a trailer out. I think the first episode of like six or seven episodes. It'll be out later next week that real exciting stuff on this for me. I'm looking at it at different angles you know from from a true. Fan handicapper looking at those things and I was really impressed with what they've done with that stuff and you said the Hennigan brothers Rim involved involved this well that explains why it says the such good production but I'm sorry I'm not going to be able to be at Sandia this weekend to watch some of the action and then the excited she omaha beach as he. There's been any indication what his end goal is is Holler. There's no I would think that they would keep him. Yeah I mean. I don't think he's going to the consensus. Consensus couldn't couldn't consensus was that he wasn't going to try to stretch ten to ten furlongs so it would seem that seem that that the mile makes the most sense and I'll say it obviously dot Gov this you might richer vendela one of the top top trainers of all time saver wherever he puts this or that's wrong. I mean I've talked about next week. bigger. Scout she comes back Jack and he and he feels that he's able to run. Wherever you played them. He's going to be live. just the fact that he's done got him back here in time and had to discuss on on the schedule so that would be interesting to see out how he comes back last week the the the two the two races he had one of them was winning. You're in. I don't think I think there's any threat to to any of the turf turf races for that Bob Baffert of course the two year old. You always got everything goes for him. It's just amazing year. After year. Just wins those races so we'll we'll keep an eye on that but it does its thing this. Keelan has is quite a lineup out there tomorrow and Sunday so interesting to see Jerry Hahn door for a source I guess dasell weakest our saying now that Philly really she's one dollars damage out here in California so anxious stacks up in that race but you guys were talking earlier this taste the pace just perfect for her and she matches up with those sources. I I really liked the good and and we're still not sure if she he is going to be able to run in the Breeders Cup with with the situation whether the Breeders Cup will allow it or how that works so that'll be interesting to Z. as well but a lot of good races coming up over the weekend and and be looking forward to I'll be I'll I'll find. I know one one thing I'm GONNA do. I'm GonNa find out where the place isn't Tucson. That's right. I mean you know I'm a new game. I got I got this part part of part of learning. I got a you know. He's the kids out of hand. They'll they'll be in there in for a treat the obviously the this this part of it It's going to be a new experience for you but for them. It's a it's a rare opportunity. Well wow that's a wendy was telling me and that's what she's as well as fast as the top to save for thirty years. I think something different here and I hope I can bring a little realism to due to what what is like really like out there and and and you know we're going through a different time in racing now did did with Churchill acquisition of turf way and really almost a chance dishing of power. We've talked about it where the Mid West. This has now created Maybe the you know the best circuit around with the Kentucky tracks and and Oaklawn Park in that mix and it's. It's you know like it or not. It's kind of the way it's going and actually after being down a little got a feel good about the game. I think settling down a little bit then and I hope that can pass along some positive energy to the to the students. They WanNa make make racing their life. Well it on that on that front to hammer the before we go. I uh I don't know if you did you get a chance to hear. Show yesterday did not because he he's going to have a strength. He's he's sending a strength of the Oakland and he he's got eight head from John Ed Anthony and he's going to send his son down there here for a beachhead so I was aware I was aware of that and anytime you see the Crm I am on the program. It's his the is such a all the sides of great horseman a Great Guy in in Majesty that I think we'll see a few other names saying that of course from some of the trainers in the West thinking the same thing that maybe need to you know get a little little foothold there in case case they wanna make a move or have a string as you as you've seen handful of horsemen from California California has already started that Peter Miller got some horses in the Mid West L. D'Amato offices run a few and There's been some some interest of maybe a couple of other guys doing the same thing just because the persons that are good and and will continue to get better and the cost of living is is unbelievably less than it is out here in California coast as well so and it could be a circuit get where you really don't have to lose to to as much you know. One one or two moves is with the okay and and move. You've that move and stuff. When you're younger is kind of fun then you get a little older you get a little settled. You got kids family to pick up and move your operation two or three or four times. A year gets a little harder so that's another thing that makes that. Midwest circuit little intriguing and we'll see how it goes in the next few years and I still obviously need a solid so called in the West and the east of it. I don't see that going away but the tide turning a little bit point well made the mid the mid American racing scene hammer safe travels the rest of the way to Tucson and we'll talk next last week and we'll get get the report right from the University of Arizona the race track industry program and we'll get some thoughts about the weekend is that we'll be that much closer toward breeders cup. Thanks bye. That sounds great. Thanks Dave down the road. You say down the road proctor we're going to stay right here and we'll stay right here literally till noon because we've got Gabby God that Jeff Siegel Ed James and Nick Tamra between now and and twelve o'clock and Gabby God that standing by our second visit to Keeneland this morning opening day and of course the TV Gee team is pretty much institution when it comes to Keeneland Gabby Good Morning Good Morning Steve. How're you terrific and we're so you know they're they're. The planes are stacked up like they are over. O'hare got. Let's dive right into it. Some thoughts going into the opening opening day of the meat and the fall stars weekend. This is always an amazing seventy two hours. Oh for sure is I mean just look at the entries he's on Friday Saturday and Sunday going back to today. you look at the two maiden special weight for. I mean especially rates for phillies going long serpent two year old and it was oversubscribed. See there were forty eight horses entered. Thanks Ray so they had a split the race and then there were sixteen which were excluded but beyond the undercard races. I thought that was a very interesting race. Course Phoenix is a very interesting race. let alone. Saturday's card which you know we how for an hour about but yeah this is typical fall starts leaking here at keeneland and I'm just so excited about it. Let's let's hit some highlights and I reached reached out to you yesterday but we didn't connect until after we got off the air because I did want to get your Friday thoughts so phoenix also biopsies before we talk about Saturday. You know I think the biggest question with the alphabet city's is whether you go towards the greatest stakes races at Saratoga like that or on back in like the spin away with perfect alibi or if you prefer some of those eight and races if you think they were stronger. I thought the maiden races were stronger and the in the fall well you know with these two year olds. It's so interesting because this is really the time where we see either you know horses that two year olds that were precocious and the early part of the season whether or not they really improve in the latter half of the year or you know when they compete against sources better just starting to get good. Now you know th the later blossoming a two year old so I really was drawn towards a laundry for Shug mcgaughey. It's not often that we see courses pop at present seen eighteen especially at Saratoga. You know sprinting on the dirt. It just takes me back to race like code of honor when he won first time out near the lead last summer at Saratoga so I think a lot of the goods and I also think British idiom was really impressive debut so I kind of let to those too but it's a very interesting scenery I respect perfect alibi and I mean I gotta throw an Air of light there to for my husband or Cassie. She's been training a really really well going into this race and tactic is going to be to go the more I looked at this. The the more involved at God Michelin getting the dirt. Try the Bernardini filly out the panty raid for Godolphin th there's no reason why she shouldn't take to the dirt she also gets first lasix and you know in a horse that nobody is talking about that should at another one that that should benefit from the stretch out down inside and I'm going to look at the price three d. Flag is a silly twenty two one broke the maiden and stretching to seven furlongs for Steve Asmussen and Mike Rutherford. This is a clear sky bred filly by super saver and a little bit more improvement. I've been puts her. You know within the within reach of the favorites in the more likely horses and is going to get a you know a nice inside trip but doesn't didn't look in that win like she is a worse that has to have the lead either so I thought that three D. flag might be the the the price to feather in some house now that there's just to show you about this race though it all the phillies in here at they do not have to improve that much in order to be a factor and you look back at the last five years. Steve and winners have come from everywhere whether it's tatum with at Worrell graded stakes wins at what fine finishing in the money at Saratoga even coming from abroad ah the west coast at del Mar they have literally come from all over the place so that's what makes it a little bit difficult because there's never really a trend trend It's just you know what feelings are starting to get good now in the fall well. It's a nice mix and not for a Friday much like we were looking at last week for Santa Anita's opening day. It's a real pleasure to have this kind of a car. Even before we get to the heaviness of of Saturday and Sunday before we talk about the rest of the weekend gabby go debt with us and what do you do in the Phoenix because I I don't think that promises fulfilled has to win as they say I like promises filled. I'm on Marty Cam Yep you know you look at the pace scenario right and American pastimes fast recruiting reading's fast and then you have promises fulfilled I think on his best day he's faster than those other two Maybe not at three quarters. Maybe it's a touch faster at seven but he's still has you know the benefit at the to the outside of those to keep broke slowly last time out. If you believe that the railways at the place to be Syrian you know his last race Jason. He has that up against him in the totally was breathing down his neck entire time so he has plenty of excuses but on his best day I think he is the best horse in the race whereas recruiting ready he was brilliant last time out and I love the fact that they went back and used his speed because I know talking to Stan huff and hunter rankin again with Sega for several times before the past they kind of wanted to see if he could rate several times and he's just more effective when he can go to the League league. I don't think he's GonNa get that type of scenario today and I also think he's a horse. It doesn't Para back to back races all the time so I'm not really in his camp today whereas I would dabble with whitmore because I like the fact that they'd given him a break. He's coming back to in my opinion and prepare distant. I think he's better at three quarters and and if something does go crazy on the front he's an interesting horse. Pick up the pieces. I don't think he's held off just yet. I think he just needed a little bit of a break. AAC Rally Fair enough and I thought engage was a horse. That might be a kind of now horse. Mardi argued with be a little bit about hockey customers preferring a needing that seventh furlong versus the three quarters even without diamond oops who I thought had a real looking here even without him coming out still a ten horse field and it should be it should be interesting. I have and I'm I'm stymied. I wrote this card up and I got stuck on this race and I'm going to have to make a decision and post after I get up. Get off the air. Let's I know I know let's go to I'm trying to there's a lot going on and you mentioned those two divisions. The the two two year old races that are really fairly complicated and Ayubi. They're going to have to make a stand in that seventh race or spread to make sure that you even get to the stakes and a worse like craft woods for maker it feels like a horse to lean on a little bit however i the more I scratched and sniffed I found other interesting courses not the least of which was Cherie devoe subtly is winning with every single first time starter she sends out and she's got a sibling of Samantha Segel's touch of star quality he in that regal passage and I also thought that Michael Ann Ewing she's got a nice horse in that English escort who's GonNa appreciate stretching out on the grass very as always challenging sequence at keeneland. Let's get some opinions because I know you gotta get off the air and get ready for TV. We gabby some some highlights from Saturday. Talk about the two year olds I because it's obvious that you really dug into the two year old house. What are you doing in the breeders through thirty tough race primarily because of where certain horses are drawn. I mean Gouverneur Morris. I you know there's been so much talk about him. There was a lot of talk about him going into his debut and there's still a lot of talk about it but you he's constitution out of unbridled song. Look he taught has done this before in the past. I think he's done it. He did it with Carpe Diem and two thousand fourteen where he stretch him out of the five and a half furlong win and won the breeders for charity so he's surely capable of doing it but I I was between him and tap it to win and I just think kappa to win winning out three quarters hobby two races beneath him and winning on a dry track legitimizes the race a little bit more and I liked the post this position because I think he could just kinda get pocket trip but I think these horses are incredibly talented and I kinda thought between those two I wanted to dabble with American. Butterfly is a crazy long shot for so he's going to be kind of the oddball play in the fraternity. I I used used American Butterfly in that win. As this kind of the third choice oddball value going back to that was that was that day or is that close that closing Saturday I can't remember but I thought that that horse was sneaky. Gi and it actually had worked beautifully coming into that into that start and Dwayne had a very nice Saratoga. Let's talk doc about the to grade one turf miles the first lady and the shadow fourteen horses each wow oh my gosh the I was talking to a couple of people about the shadow of turf mile and I don't know I I'm getting mixed opinions with it but I thought it was an impossible rate because they couldn't find a sensor to it. Are you start with next shares Van Beethoven valid clammy and I guess the center point of the race is valid would point but he's a three year old. He needs to improve to win which he very well could but you know. I think Chad is kind of taking a little bit of a risk with him. Year sure beyond him admission office. I mean he's GonNa have to work out a very lucky trip which he did when he was here in the spring but he also broke from the outside post position and he managed to work out a trip but I just don't know if that's going to happen for him. Magana the mile on top of that. I got really suited him. Well and it's all about timing on getting this horse to to get its feet underneath of them and make that last as late closing run so I go back and what I will admit. This was the hardest race for me the entire weekend so and my I if it's difficult for me to get through. I don't want to land on an obvious horseshoe landed on to a project sister said he's the only horse in the race who's coming mean out of a grade one on the turf going against older competition. You know obviously excluding valid point. You just want the secretariat he's going to be the worst for me. Maybe the miles too short but I definitely think that he's coming out of pizza races and he's informed. I mean there's no doubt about it. If he takes another set forward of his Arlington million or even duplicates that he could win. that's a point well made and six to one on the morning line Bowie's hero the horse that I always come back to that just seems to always at least get in a run I've I've got an figure out. I want to figure out why Patrick Bianco is convinced that diamond ups is better off in this spot that he was in the Phoenix Patrick's Fox bowie's hero is probably a little bit more accomplished that shares when he was going to Mashad while last year but he kind of gives me a similar feeling where I just I think that this race is capable of like one horse. Maybe freaking on the day and not necessarily like duplicating that even even like next shares that last year and a hero if he improves off of his one of three buyer that he ran last year you know he could surely win. I just thought it was a very difficult race but I think because it's difficult a lot of people are going to lean on Chad. and I just don't WanNa do that. I think it's more complex than that. One horse that you have brought up who's got a win at keeneland and is going to be completely glossed over and end up being a better than the twelve to one price first premium. Yeah I look I could surely make a case for for him and he's Kinda got that good middle running style. I mean I know he was a little bit farther off the pace last time out I don't think he's going to be too far off of. I bet he could surely work out a trip. I mean mark other horse in their march so the arch surely as an impossible and you gotta remember something. I mean they've turf looks phenomenal out here. I was making a joke. I said the only Gresley you can find in the state of Kentucky as Keeneland because it has not rained here in the last two months but you should great expect firm conditions you know so probably pretty firm conditions as opposed to previous fall so you know keep that in the back of your mind as well well. We'll let you go out with this the first lady what what you end up who another tough one I'm I'm putting chip in on rushing fall as she's four four four keeneland. I think she's going to go five for five. I don't think she needs to we'd actually thinks she's better with a target. At the mile. I think the rab the presence of the Rabbit last name out in the Diana screwed it up a little bit. She had a make kind of that early remove and I mean look. She got beat by Sister Charlie. There's necessarily in this race so I like her. I really like Indian bustling underneath. I almost tried to go against rushing with her. 'cause I think she's getting better her. Raising the first lady last year was very good because it was a faceless. I think she gets a bit. We're pacing firmer going on tomorrow so I'M GONNA to those two phillies and merits of the the first lady but it's a very good race and ah anywhere else on the card that just any other random spot that the horse that you know you're gonna you're GonNa Punch tomorrow just kind of schooling in the TCI I think spice perfection is a vulnerable so I kind of want to take a we'll bit of a shot in there. I was kind of going between dawn the destroyer and so on but I'm gonNA leave us alone just because I think she's had a consistent year and space to perfection of fun funny thing about her. She has not had more than three months off in her entire career. Since she literally began the fact that she's coming off of five months at three quarters where she might be a little bit better at seventy eight. you know. I think she might be a bit vulnerable in there but that that's get race. I mean there's just amazing racist throughout the weekend. Steve Well and even non stakes some familiar horses. Sola meany runs tomorrow in the third as it happens and for those that are going to be tuning in from the first race today. Be Aware that second race Knicks go oh cuts back to seven eighths for Ben Colebrook and looks like they're gonna be dedicated in that direction and look into pickiness even money for Chad Brown on and I don't know I didn't think looking at bikinis hat to have to win this either at a short price so a lot of lots lots of look forward to and the coverage with Gabby and and who else is on hand during the we're kinda shifting all about but Scott Hazelton and I are going to be double duty with votes keeneland and at a keeneland simulcast speed and TVD duties Christina blacker her I think todd Britney are all in town this weekend to I'm just trying to remember the people that hung out with a lobby of the hotel so it's definitely a good group and yet works before we love it. Gabby God that everybody Gabby underscore God that underscore ah for Gabby on twitter and on your television Gabby. Thanks so much enjoy the me. Thanks always always fun to get Gabby. 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Growing trends new look and our first interview from a visit to China

Growing Trends

23:27 min | 5 years ago

Growing trends new look and our first interview from a visit to China

"Growing trend everyone. This is an Miller, I'm here with my host co host Chris Cooper, and we have the honor and privileges. Speaking again tonight to the founder of energizing companies and energizing university that would be Mr. Williamson ski Hello Bill. How are you? Thank you so much. How are you guys doing we're behaving? We just opened a bottle of wine, and he's going to be making dinner and Meyer talking to you. So life is good. Oh, Chris Megan dinner. I take that back. So well, we haven't been up much of anything new that I have a feeling that you have. So I'm really looking forward to certain. That she called. We got Jakarta. That is true. And we had a very nice time meeting Norma Bernsen up there and doing some strategizing for how to sustainably grow food for the globe. Which I think ties in she what you've been up to Bill is that true. This is the the main focus for the century. I think and and I think people are gonna become aware of that sooner than later, you know, with all the pressure that we're getting the changing climate and waiting for natural environment. Farmers started out very very difficult time, and there are other things in the background. That are are are becoming a mediated issues that we're going to have to deal with. We're gonna have a productive agricultural world global community in the in the coming years, and you're right. I just got back. I was on a trip second trip in the last few months the China. They're very concerned about. I'd love some of the little intricacies on some of these y'all. Everything I'm not just sticking to the nuances Neto. Okay. You're gonna go. I was invited. I was invited over by the Chinese spend some time over there. They're the Chinese government is being I think very visionary. If you wanna look at it, in one way, certainly very active in wanting to counter a lot of the issues and challenges facing that of the on intended consequences of the incredible industrial and urban growth. They've had over the last few decades. You know, you go to China and to see the amount of structure new construction and the size of their cities and the size of their infrastructure projects. You know, these are the people that brought to the great wall and they still build and CBA projects on that scale. And just in the last, you know, the last few months last year, the Chinese government has become extremely sensitive to the amount of the Terezin of their natural environment. China's a of youthful. Beautiful country, and because of all of their industrial growth and their reliance on, you know, particularly call the production of energy, they've had, you know, a their their their environment is collapsed or starting to collapse, and they know it they're airplane is unacceptable levels right now as it is in a lot of Asia, not just China. India has that problem many areas in Asia suffering those same consequences from burning coal, and they have other issues that relate to their farming practices and the amount of fertilizer and phosphorus is getting into the water systems and acid start to grow in as they start to build huge cities. I mean cities that are literally built in the middle of plane that used to be after Landon that in five ten years house ten million people and that type of. Oh my goodness Yale. And if that's speed is almost incomprehensible view from comprehensible five ten years, and it goes to how many do you say they live million? You're planning on building housing in the next five years to house one hundred million migrants that are coming in from rural areas. Look for jobs. This is a big deal in China. A lot of Chinese families usually rural families are being torn apart and unnecessarily because the men in the family unity. Find an adequate income or not able to raise those are not able to who chief that income on their rule farm. So that they're doing is they're migrating to the cities to find work and they spend eleven and a half months away from their families. And during that time, which stress on the on the marriages, they don't get to see their kids. This is not something the Chinese are very very family oriented, and this is not something that they they wanna see there's -ociety very. Sensitive about that. And they're trying to figure out ways right now to all of that. But in the meantime, they're building, and they have construction on the way right now for hundred million residents and try to conceive that that's one third or practically one third of the United States, and they're gonna be building that over five year period. Yeah. We visited cities like hand, Jan Zang's zoo. And you see these rows of vunerable modern thirty thirty storey residential, building complexes. But on a scale that that I don't think people are used to in the last where you'll have, you know, fifty one hundred two hundred buildings in a complex. I'd hate to get drunk and after find my home, I could get lost out, the modern infrastructure, and the way they the Chinese not about it with bullet, trains, and modern roads. And a budgeting car society has created enormous pressure on the environment, and they're now very sensitive to it. And I gotta give them credit in the fact that they are taking unprecedented effort right now termination in trying to solve their problems of the environment that if there's any country on the world, and I truly mean this that is going to be successful doing this. It's going to be China because Kennedy at the same time. Time because they're building all of this new construction. They have an opportunity to implement so many new technologies against port water-management in different alternate forms of energy and so forth. Is that what you're seeing happening is that in the plane? I think that every culture has strengthened its weaknesses. Okay. And you know, hopefully as you Manitou evolves will start merging those and and and getting rid of the weaknesses that basically hold us back. And I think that the more collaboration that happens between the west in China. There are beneficial aspects to what they do. They're beneficial things that we do that could really be in mind, and they're certainly lessons that both sides need to learn in order, not just the work better together. But actually working inefficient mound of that's gonna provide the long term solutions that were looking for. And I think the west is very very creative. I think that we come up with a lot of technologies as a lot of free thinking there's a lot of innovation. Not that. There isn't innovation in China. They're certainly isn't a brilliant people over there. They've got great scientists. But I think that the west has been a veteran virement for that type of innovation on the other hand. I think that the Chinese are far far better at. Collapse at the single mine try to his Lucien or together that sort of thing. And that's something that the west needs to learn from the Chinese we need to adapt their attitude which trying to solve a problem this once they decide votre problem to channel to take care of it. There's not a lot of blame at that point. I think that they're very positive that they want to do what's right? And they wanna find solutions that make sense if I would say that they have a weakness. I think that they think that I think that it seems to me at least that there's the appearance that they think everything's going to be solved by technology, and technology is a is a is sort of the full the full solution. It's not that technology's not going to be an integral part of solving our problems that the real problem, we have with the environment really has to do with people and our balance of the way, we produce and consume our resources, and unless we address that directly education recondition. Ripon we're going to fail in the Chinese are going to fail. I think that they're humming. They're really looking at this hard and pagan very very I think very smart route in trying to evaluate how they're going to go forward, and they need this the truth matters, if they don't make it if they're unsuccessful in this process. We are all going to lose the world right now is depending on China to get this, right? If China doesn't get this right of the twenty percent is going to be a disaster this planet, and I think they. They modified their ideologies. Does that mean that we have to modify ause as well? So that you can have this capitalism and communism so the fighting each other RAV have something he vote between the two Hanno. That's that's hard. I don't know. That's that's a hard thing to say. I I would say this the people that I met, and that I was, you know, a really honored who have met when I was in China were genuine friendly and really really do wanna work together. I think that there are hopeful differences, and in rain ideological differences that set up at make it a little bit difficult sometime with communication and with the expectations. Okay. I think that the Chinese are sincere. But I you know, I look at it. You have to look at it from their perspective, we complain about the Chinese rightfully so that, you know, they steal they've stolen. I p. That they've, you know, got not the people's impute as that they've hack systems and things like that. And on the other hand, the US and American companies who certain extent of in doing that for years, and what we do is a little bit different. If we don't if there's a strong company that has a product or service or technology that's dominant and a competing technology comes out by development technology group that competes with that they'll use lawyers laws and lobbyists to slow down the process and some cases stop the process of those technologies coming to market, which is really destructive from an evolutionary standpoint, it doesn't allow really innovative technologies can solve a lot of our problems that relate to water management waste and energy production from getting to the market because of the stakeholders that are making smart business decisions by vying that technology and shelving it or using every effort that they can't stop it from getting. Getting to market, and I'm also just as sure that the US does much, you know, delving into Chinese impudence as they do into ours. So, you know, you always get this argument of if you look at everything from we're good, and they're bad than you know, than everything they do that. That's questionable is terrible. And everything that we do at clear that's questionable is. Okay. And I'll talk out that way. Honestly, I was thinking they sides social motorized. The common. Good. And it sounds all, you know, forget politics side of the reality is that they want to change because they might shoes strives loss decade. I see I see much vigor commitment change from the Chinese frankly than I do from from the west. And I, and I I say that I I think the Germany and Sweden, and you know, certain countries in Europe have been, you know, have been fantastic, particularly the Germans in terms of their pro. You're you're you're looking into the twenty first century v like and preparing for it in a very intelligent way. But I haven't seen that in the United States, and you would hope that the United States would take leave with our biggest leap science is the fact that we're individuals, and we tend to look at things the vigil interest, whereas the Chinese head, look, you know, they have the advantage of a of a central government that once that central government, basically has a concept of what it wants to do societal change, the Chinese are, you know, fallen step and say, well, it's terrible. You know, but it's not, you know, at this time in history that is a positive trait because they're able to mask or create a critical mass of work and effort and focus in order to be able to deal with these incredibly large and transformative of solutions that are required in order, the reverse. Our course. Of you know, of climate change of over use of our resources of losing our fosters now understand that we as much bigger issues at in their home country than we do in the United States right now and in the west because they've gone through this massive industrial growth in very short period of Pont. And there has been a high price to pay for that understanding that they are reacting to it with. I think a determination and focus that I don't see in the west, and we meet helping them we need to do everything. We can he goes our face, right? Would how successful or unsuccessful? They're going to be in this effort. Can I ask you a question? Can you about the great influx of immigrants that are coming in gonna be populating these uprisings cities. What is and they're used mostly coming from an agricultural background. What's happening, then agriculturally as these harms are leaving their little farm. This is your pointing out of big issue. You know, there's two things happening here. First of all, you know, the families are so staying there, so the wives and the children are still working those arms. So I'm not sure if there is a you know, if there's a huge loss in productivity. However, the, you know, where you're seeing a lot of growth in China. China has a central plains area, that's probably comparable not in size. But in terms of concept who Kansas Nebraska in the central part of the United States in terms of producing quite a bit of its of its agricultural wealth. And it's a very I mean, this is, you know, historically, an agricultural society. But they go into the middle of these areas, and they put up cities of literally ten million people in the course of a decade that uses up all that farmland. So they're taking a tremendous amount of their agricultural productivity off line, which by the way, they're compensating. This point by leasing. Property in in more than a dozen countries both in Africa Asia, where they're able to bring in supplemental crops the issue with that is that eventually those countries if climate keeps changing if the, you know for we're losing our population for pollination, if we're running out of phosphorus so that fertilizer becomes more precious, and then starts to disappear. Those countries are going to require those foods for themselves and then he come into conflict. So you know, we can't keep going the way we're going the other thing I'd say this China also uses because of its tremendous requirement for food, and it's tremendous agricultural base uses more more fertilizer and more p to five which is a phosphorus blend for you know, for their production than any other country on the planet. They're also more inefficient in the way, they apply to their fields. They apply way too much. And then what happens is the unintended consequences that. At that Munns off in you know, with rainfall into their waterways creates algae bloom strokes up the rivers and eventually kills their waterways, which having a big issue. And again, this is something along with air pollution and everything else that you're trying desperately to solve and what's hard about. It is you know, these are solutions that are veterans ob- before it gets any state. Do they use crop rotation rather than constantly what's happening here where we put the same crop in seinfield every year? I don't think they, you know, I it's not that they're totally unsophisticated because they're not. I mean, the Chinese are brilliant. And and a lot of what they do is. We can learn from the west, but in terms of their farming, you know, and at least from what I was able to see and it's not a conclusive you of everywhere in the country. The only issues I'm really aware of is there overuse of fertilizer, so, you know, China's a very vibrant, and a very wonderful growing atmosphere, and they grow everything everywhere and they make their don't use a lot of. Percents. Oh that they use a lot of pesticide sees a lot of hurt allies or used too much of each one of the big issues that they have right now China is that I'm not sure the exact number is in the high teens, maybe seventeen or eighteen percent. But I'm I'm not exactly sure on that number. So quote me of their of their land has been you know, polluted with heavy metals. So they're also solutions to try to remove those medals from the soil to begin to make that slow more productive. But I think the big issue sweet on want run as it is for the rest of the world is managing their foster USA phosphorus and recapturing Vosper that's going to be critical to the survival of our large population. If we're gonna make it through the century. We don't get that under control in the very near future. We're going to run out of phosphorus. So we're gonna run out of phosphorus will peak out and phosphorus shortly. And we'll be declining phosphorus reserves the next twenty years and forty years out from now it's going to be pressure. Commodity, and you can't have you can't have crops that are dependent on fertilizer without Bosphorus, and it fosters disappears in you have to you have to recycle it at this point. There's no synthesized way to make up for that loss and white. Wait, much Suomi apply. Any need a tiny amount. Not right. So you're absolutely right. Yeah. They're they're just over using it. But they're not the only country to do that. So it's not like China is, you know, lone culprit here same issues in India in Indonesia, you know, an Africa, and what's needed is just better education and better crop management. And again, you know, that's not gonna be technological solution. That's rather matter of education and available education. That's what Energi me that's one of the reasons I went there. I'm trying to convince the the Chinese government that high structural education system that we wanna put in would be what's needed in that country with their really teaching their leaders. What do which is a great first step, but eventually that has to disseminate down to the overall population. And that's the way they're gonna gonna be rice all night because will telling us is that the population spec. It's on this is to their leaders doesn't offer them. You know, that's just they do that. They that's gonna that's gonna be. We're still waiting to see whether or not the government is going to take that direction and out approach. And it's really my hope that they do not look at this just from the standpoint of acquiring technology from a, you know, from an economic development standpoint, which, you know, just like the United States just like the rest of the world that seems to be our achilles heel. Our inability to look at the big picture the in, you know, we're we're looking so much at the finances who so much at the at the cash flow looking so much of the possibility for, you know, economic expansions critical, and it's necessary and has to be part of the solution. But it can't be the end goal. The end goal has to be he can omic development that supports the process of reestablishing a balance with our environment Valance with a resource use at balance, you know, taking all this Carmen and all these negative chemical. That were putting into the environment out of the environment and either utilizing them, or at least getting getting into a point they're not flowing into our streams getting into our soil. You know, and fallowing our oceans and coastal waterways. We're going to go ahead and conclude this session of our interview with you. We've we've reached that point where we're going to call it a close to this. This is an Miller and Chris Cooper, our guest is Bill since give Energi university talking to us about his most recent trip to China and all of that exciting things that are happening there.

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Charlsie Cantey Interview - December 14, 2019

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

18:43 min | 8 months ago

Charlsie Cantey Interview - December 14, 2019

"Well I told you that Charles. He can't he joined Billy Reid and being inducted into the National Museum of Racing. Joe Hirsch Media Roll of honour this year and I. I can't think of two more deserving individuals to receive that honor and pleased to welcome Charles. He can't either the program program now Charleston. Welcome to the horse racing radio network. Work appreciate the time this morning. Absolutely Mike Glad to be with you. Good Morning. Good morning and let me get this out of the way right off the bat go Navy B- Armies that right Well said by man Terry family will never sponsor the show again now did I did carry it. I have a good time going back and forth about about that but it's it's navy's third to beat Army this year. They've had three years in a row. It's time to give it back. You know I went to the game for the very first time in my life last year. Froze froze my tail off but it was such an incredible experience. It's one of those things. It's one of those bucket lists things. If you'RE GONNA go to a sporting event this is one of the ones you have to taint it truly is. It's like everyone must see the Derby wants there's an emotion and a feeling and nobody loses that game it is just really really a powerful thing to do and if you can go but Lord Brings Stadium Blanket. Because he's always so cold Certainly is Charlie first of all congratulations on this tremendous dishonor. Tell me about the moment. When you got word that you were going to receive the The Joe Hirsch Meteorology Honor I. I was just stunned. I cannot put into words how Florida was when the call came in and I'm still in disbelief that it is happening and the first words of course anytime something wonderful happens to someone. So we'll menace like this. Is You say you're honored and humbled and indeed I am but kind of after the shock wore off a a little bit. I felt a tiny bit sheepish. Because there are just so many deserving people I mean you look around racing and everybody who covers racing Randy Moss Envy Johnson and Tom Durkin and the scores of women who have become so solid and so brilliant at what they do for thoroughbred racing caitlyn brighter. Donna brothers Brittany a your. I mean it's it's just such a thrill for this recognition but there are so many people so many people who do such wonderful things in media. You are credited Charles. He is being the person who really came up with the concept of doing interviews on horseback and we see Donna brothers doing that now. On the NBC. Television coverage we see on some other programs to. It's become a thing. Do you look at yourself as being somewhat of a pioneer in that department. Well actually it it. I didn't come up with the idea and I did wind up being the first one to do it it started back in the CBS days Back in the late seventies and Bob Fishman who was the producer of the show and they had an outrider in New York WHO's actually Wesley Ward uncle? Jim Daly who would would. They started to mike him up and he would collect the winter and they were able to relate to the to the Jonky and sadly he died very suddenly not too long. Before the first Belmont telecast. We were doing that year and Bob Turnaround looked at me and he shouldn't guess what you're going to do. That's how it started so all credit goes just about fishermen who still of course doing CBS sports basketball the final four and all that I mean he's he's a legend in his game so That's how how it started and it went on for me for about eight years eight or nine years and then when we switched from. CBS OVER TO ABC. The and Kurt gowdy junior decided. Well we're going to do it a little more. We're GONNA do a little something different. We got a camera on your helmet now. Donna and everybody. Who Does it on horseback now? They've got a wonderful fool. Little tiny tiny cameras but in those days it was a huge amount of quit. It was heavy and it was a saddlebags and the the whole thing and we we did it once at the Derby which was Nineteen eighty six. It was and so snow. Chief had been the favourite in that race if I recall and What's his name? The shoemaker won the race on Than Aginsky Colt drawing a blank on his he wins so we go to Pimlico and we do the same thing again. Although now it's a strangers tacking up the pony and I'm in the paddock on foot doing interviews so I don't get to inspect or anything. We run out. I jump on the pony and the stuff is all equipped and all on him and the wires attached to this helmet that is latched to the saddle in the whole thing. And so the horses break out of the gate and have to gal up to the end of the turn and as I go from from from after the break and I go to the turn and my head starts getting pulled backwards that everything starts slipping and sliding off and and I've managed to get the worse was over to where the tunnel is there at Pimlico get off get off the pony and valid in the paddock. They helped me get all that stuff collected. I mean it it. All the saddle slipped under the ponies belly and that and I was able to leap off hang on to him and the whole thing it was. It was one of these train wrecks so I picked the whole. Oh scoop of stuff up and I can hear Jim Casing Okay and snow. Chief is a winner. We'll go down to Charles E in system I'm almost through the paddock grandstand. TV wreck where a pile piled stuff on the steps. And I said forget it. No more horseback interviews for me ever so that was a short-lived section but it did start something and it's obviously today's it goes so beautifully and smoothly and it's really terrific. You Know Charleston. You mentioned the Kurt Gowdy and when you think about the people you had the privilege to work with the names names like frank right and Dave Johnson and Jim Mckay L. Michael's Jack Whitaker You know just the fact that you were able to be around. Those was notable individuals. Had to be pretty special for you. I would imagine absolutely was I mean to work with with Jack Whitaker and Jim McKay. Who just the poetry just float off their tongues without any effort and of course? Tom Hammond was my my rock fabulous but I have to give so much credit today. Johnson because we started did way back in the seventy five with the racing from Ecuador. Belmont Saratoga Local show out of out of narrow there and and I have never had any television expand. I knew nothing and Dave and the late frank right the two of them shepherded me and I kept. I really didn't look to be on television. Yeah now I was very nervous really nervous about it and it was kind of ordeal. I got through every week although I loved being able to be up close and personal with all the good horses and riders. But I kept saying I'm not GonNa do this thing where Dave and frank would close ranks around me. You're gonNA keep doing this. And then it got better and better but to them. I have to so much credit. The two of them. Yeah talking with Charles C candy here on the Horse Racing Radio Network Charleston. When you when you? I've talked to so many people over the years on on this program that have received tremendous honors like this and oftentimes. They'll tell me that it's a time for reflection. And they think back on their career and some of the moments that stand and out to them so when you do look back on your career and everything you were able to accomplish whether it be in the early days when you were working for hall of fame trainers or afterwards when when you got into the broadcasting side of things what are some of the moments that stand out to Charles e candy well so many I don't even know where to begin First things first what I was doing I I had discovered working on the backstretch and I just couldn't believe my luck that I was doing doing something that I would have done for free but it was my job and I was so happy back there. I love the backstretch I love. I love galloping horses. I loved being on the track. I loved every minute. I studied still my fondest warmest memory Of working at mostly in New York. Mostly up at Belmont and and during the Golden Decade Eight. I mean here. Here's here's a moment for you. Walking up the horse paths at Belmont Park which anybody who's been there and seen it is absolutely spectacular and I would walk the length of the horse path breath on on one of white horses who they like formed. Stop and stand and look around even on the Horse Path and you just be standing there. Well they were kind of looking around and here comes secretary. Oh few years later there goes affirmed. Then here's Seattle slew. I mean you. Literally brushing stirrup irons with the greatest sources who ever lived and and watch them and see them every single day so on the backside that would be the most wonderful and glorious part of it on the on the front side. On the telecast I I have terrible habit of remembering the FAUX PAS burst but being right in the middle of all that and being with with McKay at the Derby and being with Tom Hammond. It's a derby that's always such a an emotional feeling when you know it's in five four three two one and here we are at Louisville for Churchill. Downs for the Kentucky Derby and people will say to me to this day will that maybe don't know me your have you ever been to the Kentucky Derby and I all I can do is to keep from laughing because you. You don't WanNa tell them you've been twenty one times uh-huh but it was always. It was always a great thing to go to the Derby. But you know where I really loved the best was coming to Pimlico afterwards for for the preakness because then it's distilled down into that nugget group. Who really you've cut away everything else? And we're all right there in one barn and that's where you're going to run into the bill neck and and Steve Steve Haskins and and then in the in the day before they retired any reason and Mary Jane Wall who were a pioneer women doing doing the coverage for for the Kentucky papers. They're writing books and you know that that kind of exposure sure to everything is part and parcel of the entire television experience. You Know Charles See. I was reading that your first network television broadcast was would. CBS CBS. And it was the nineteen seventy seven travers stakes and I grew up in Pittsfield Massachusetts which is about an hour little over an hour from Saratoga. Yes so the travers was very special to me as a kid growing up and just getting involved in the sport. Would you remember about that day in that first broadcast well I I happen to remember it. Well because it was a disqualification involved and I guess because I really didn't know any better I just kind of jump right as yeah well. This one's coming down. You really shouldn't say I wish I had some of the footage from from the old days I don't really have much of of any footage at all but it would be fun to go back and look at that was that was I remember that will. It was Jetski wound up the winter. Yeah yeah that's right Jesse he was was put up via the disqualification that what a way to break into the network television broadcasting side of things Well it's true and you know the other another funny memory was the the first show I ever did And the reason I did it was because frank right had to do some kind of a race on the west coast and Dave Johnson needed somebody and so somehow somehow I got tapped to do that and poor Dave here he is. Hold the microphone in this hand. Look at that glass ceiling on the camera. I mean that's how basic it was and that race that day. Today on a Saturday was the vosper it was a sprint and a horse who had want who had run Friday afternoon and those days we had twenty four hour entries. He had run on Friday afternoon. His name was no bias can remember that and he won on Friday afternoon and allowance race. Any wheeled right back and ran A.. And the Fosberg. So they're the script was written that day that became pretty easy And that's an was pretty amazing aging experience for the very first time on camera you know not only. Did you have the chance to be around some pretty special forces when you were doing the broadcast but you did when you were working with with some of the top trainers in the game and even your husband Joe who you know had a chance to condition horses like grade one winner Cox's Ridge and Temperance Hill. Who won the travers? The Belmont at the Jockey Club Gold Cup and then Majesty's Prince came along later on to. What was it like to to be around those horses and to see your husband have so much success? Well it was just you know. That's a hard one to put into terms because it there's the the the stress and the pressure you worry about the horses. You worry about the the help worry about keeping the barn going smooth and then you lead them over there and when they run like that it's the highest high on the world and when it doesn't go well it's the lowest low in the world. Then you go home and is he famously told me on. TV when they have to Cox's Ridge one one racer at Aquidneck. And I interview. He's really weird. Interviewing your own husband really I said well he did this and he did it in the reset up and we're talking and he says Yep Yep he ran good he said but you still gotta go home and Cook Dinner. He says that that was back in the seventies. I remember but I guess the greatest one of those is the same story where tried out every time but it was such an amazing day and I thought about it. When I saw Brittany's father saddle up Breeders Cup winter and she covers. She covers. The story was lift a Temperance Hill. Winning the Belmont nineteen eighty and I Infamous Gallop down the stretch. Because I was expecting our son and I wasn't riding and so I had to run the length of grandstand because they had me up at the quarter pole and when he went me obviously he was he was going for the lead and he was going to win it and so I just dropped completely unprofessional. Rip Off all the equipment. Everything dropped it there and took off running running in the the little. There's a little wealth thing between the grandstand railing on the outside fence that track and galloped down there and all the people all leaning over different hollering and cheering. And I was doing the show locally there and everybody's sort of knew me and I got to manage to get back to the winter circle just as sir leading Temperance Hill in and I'm standing there just gasping for breath absolutely gasping for breath and Jack Whitaker and Frank Ryder up on a little raised podium. They're doing the show and two sets of arms. Lift me up and plot me down on the grand on the platform and they turn out. They say God you one is what what did you think. How did you did you? You all know because he paid like one hundred and eighty dollars and it's that time he was about the third highest price winter and of course I look at both of them and I can't talk. All I can do is go. It was just the most unprofessional performance and it was just one of the most memorable gaze of my life. She is Charles e candy here on the Horse Racing Radio Network Charles see see. I know. It's a very busy morning for you so I won't keep you much longer but give people a sense of what you're up to now and are you still involved in the sport in any way D do you follow it as closely as he used to. What Charles he doing now? I do my follow it. Maybe more broadly. I'm not studying hard and keeping notebooks of of information in preparation for weekend races and so on but I certainly follow it very broadly. All I'm still in touch with all my good friends I'm on the Board of the grayson-jockey Clip Research Research Foundation which does normally important medical research for the safety and welfare of the Horse and anybody's ever sat on a horse weather. It's a racehorse Polo Pony Hunia. Show Pony a pleasure Horse Walking Horse Fox hundred somewhere along the way Grayson has made that horse safer and more healthy for you so do keep that in mind and I just I I will always love it. Always care about it and always keep track of it and I'm I'm hoping that racing turnaround as a member of Whoa the Water Hay and oats alliance hoping that we can get our central strong wrong clearing place in the middle here and we get this new drug regulations and get everything. It's time for racing. It's it's across roads and we gotta go there and I'm pleased to see the change in the situation with the whip there's a public perception. That racing needs to be aware of because being outside had the fence for this long and kind of drifting anonymously through people who don't know me or anything about it and you'll hear comments well it's crew all sources so so it's time to really really step up all right Charleston. One final question for I'll let you go earlier. We talked about some of the moments that stood out to you. In this I would is now a hall of fame career How about the moment or the thing that you might be most proud of when you think back on everything you were able to accomplish throughout your life in throughout your career and racing? Well I'm needless to say this is the most validating and proudest moment of my life. But when I think back to the very beginning when I first came around there were basically very few women on the racetrack. This was the late sixties and there were so few women it was it was a male Sebastian and and of course it would have been given the timeframe but as I spent some time working on the track about six or seven years later. I started doing that racing facing from program for naira and more women started drifting in in the early eighties and and there was much more of the percentage of women on the backstretch really really climbed and I had more gals come to me and say if my parents hadn't seen you on TV they wouldn't up until that point they would not let me even think about coming to work at the race track but you open that door from you and thank you and that's the thing that really really please me deep down inside. Yeah well on behalf of everybody anybody who has I myself included. WHO has Been parted this great sport on the media side of things Charles E. Thank you as well for everything. The thing that you have done for this sport and it's been a delight to watch you over. The years is I was getting into horse racing. You were always a central part of that coverage and always classy and did everything the right way. So thank you so much. And congratulations on the National Museum of Racing. Joe Hirsch Media Roll of honour. Can't wait to see up there on that stage When we get there Pretty soon well thank you and I look forward to meeting you and I will always be grateful to Joe Hirsch Turf Writers and everyone who made this possible for me he was he he was a wonderful. Thank you the next summer. Enjoy the army navy game. We'll do beat army.

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Episode #131 ... Gramsci - Cultural Hegemony

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Episode #131 ... Gramsci - Cultural Hegemony

"Hello, everyone. I'm Steven west. This is philosophy. Is this want to give a huge thing so that people on patriot on that make the show possible? For everyone else to listen to could never do this without you today's episode is about another area of discussion than the political landscape of the early twentieth century, the work of Antonio Graham Chee. I hope you love the show today. So imagine you're at a dinner party. Nice enough person comes up to you starts talking to you. Let's say the conversation starts to go in the direction of politics. You talk for a while some point in the conversation you decide to ask this person. So what are your particular feelings about politics? I mean where do you land on the whole political spectrum magin, the person replies with, well, actually, I'm a communist, communism is the solution to all of our political problems now to us being people living in the twenty first century that have seen history play out the way that it has no matter what you think about communism. We would instantly have a lot of thoughts about. This person and probably a few questions we wanted to ask them. See because the word communism carries with it an enormous amount of baggage to us in the twenty first century, baggage, it's important to note that just didn't exist when people were having political discussions at the beginning of the twentieth, century. That's what I want us to consider here at the beginning of this episode. Just how much has changed just how much has transpired since philosophers were having these political discussions at the beginning of the twentieth century. What I wanna do is try to take a step outside of our twenty first century biases and try to do our best to put ourselves in the shoes of someone viewing the political landscape back when communism was first being proposed as a potential solution. See, because when you do that, you can start to see the political philosophy of time, within its proper context. You can start to see how in many ways the goals of the reform democracy that we talked about last time in the goals of the communism that was being proposed back, then we're actually incredibly similar member at this point in. The time line of discussion about political philosophy. There were three major conversations that were going onto were all trying to solve the same, general problems that existed in political philosophy of the time was democracy. One was communism and the general problem they were both trying to solve was. How do we ensure that in the future society doesn't devolve into a situation where a relative handful of people have an inordinate amount of control over the lives of the majority of the population? This had been a serious problem in the past democracies of the past had produced a situation time and time again, which was why there was such a serious discussion about a reformation of democracy, that would preserve the true essence of democracy, which was a government, by the mini not a handful of people will communism was very similar in terms of what it was aiming to do at the time like we talked about, we did the series on the Frankfurt school for Neo Marxist, thinkers at the beginning of the twentieth century. There was a short period of confusion when it came to what exactly was going on in the world. See ma. Prophesized that very soon, the proletariate would realize that all they had to lose were there, chains and that inevitably they would rise up. They would overthrow the bourgeoisie and they would implement a new system of economic order. Let anyone who agrees with marks at the time cross their fingers and hope that it ends up being communism. But this communist revolution just wasn't happening in the west and almost every case. So what exactly was going on Neo Marxist thinkers, went back to the drawing board. Why does it make any sense at all that people living in these abject conditions working jobs that were in many cases completely brutal? Why would those people stand for it? Why didn't Marx's prophecy come true? Well, very quickly, the trend that emerged Neo Marxist thought of the time was a control over a population of people extends far beyond the halls of congress or the ballot box political control is almost always dictated by cultural control. This is why the Italian philosopher Antonio Graham cheese, spins a considerable amount of his work exploring the concept of political control, and more, specifically the very important question of when there is a dominant social group or a dominant class within a society, how exactly does that group ascend to power and beyond that, how do they maintain that power once they've gotten it, especially when the social order, that they promote with that position of power is oftentimes completely at odds with the well being of the average person. The fact is that sometimes when a leader is elected, they don't pass policy. That's necessarily good for the majority of the population. Sometimes they support policy that really only benefits them or friends of theirs that our fellow members of a dominant social club. Class Graham, she wants to find out. Why is it that these leaders are sometimes capable of getting massive support from the people for policies that are actually hurting the average citizen more than helping them? How is it possible that the proletarian can feel so comfortable participating in a system that keeps them in chains and the eyes of Neo Marxist thinker? Graham t begins his explanation by evoking and repurposing word that had been thrown around all throughout human history. But it was a word that he thought in recent years was starting to take on an entirely new. Meaning the thing that was responsible for allowing a particular social class to ascend to power, and then maintain that privilege status was when he called, cultural hegemony. Now, this concept of Gemini is going to end up being massively important to the political conversation or the twentieth and twenty for centuries overall. And by the end of this arc on the show, we're going to have looked at it from a lot of different perspectives. But maybe the best place to start is to talk about the origins of the word the word had Gemini originates in ancient Greece. The root of the word comes from the Greek word meaning to lead some translators think it's closer to the Greek word for to rule over. But either way during integrity, there were things called hegemony. It's now in the context of ancient Greece. A hedge was typically a state that had a significant military advantage. Over another state. The arrangement being that if the weaker state didn't comply with certain demands from the hedge Amman, they would be annexed or dominated militarily, or burned to the ground. Take your pick. I guess none other words the term hegemony implied, the threat of physical dominance over population of people in this was the case all throughout human history. But grant she's going to say that in our modern world, the definition of the word had Jimmy needs to evolve with the political reality. We are living in, we are no longer living in a world where most political control is exercised by military dominance over a population of people since the advent of mass media people in positions of power have realized that a much more effective way of controlling populations is by manipulating the cultural parameters that citizens have to navigate the general idea is this to be a human being living a life in our modern world at all you always have to be living that life immersed within a particular culture. But what is? Culture, other than an elaborate collection of norms rules structures. Mores taboos rituals values. These things are not exactly abstract concepts. They are acute. They are visible. This is the cultural custom of a handshake to pay deference to somebody else. This is not talking with your mouthful. This is the sum, total of every ritual, we engage in on a daily basis that all come together to create a cohesive society, but Graham, she's going to ask is, who exactly created all of these norms, and taboos that we abide by we can easily look to different cultures around the world presently and all throughout human history for that matter to see the culture can function and flourish. When things are completely different, the norms, and taboos of culture can be completely alien from the modern world. We're living in and yet things still somehow managed to stay held together. So it makes you wonder to what extent is the current set of norms, and taboos serving to reinforce it self. To what extent are the citizens seeing the current set of norms, and taboos, not as a temporary in stantione of culture? But as just the way the world is once again, this is another example of this classic debate, we talked about last time, that's going to become increasingly relevant, how much of the reality of the world can be explained by nature. And how much of the world can be explained by culture. This is extremely important because to Graham, she if you can control the narrative, and you can convince the average citizen that the current set of cultural norms is just the way the world is then there's not going to be much complaining. There's not going to be much in the way of seeking Justice and trying to change things. This is similar to appoint we discussed from Simone d'ivoire in the ethics of ambiguity. We don't get mad at hurricanes. When a hurricane comes along, and devastates, multiple cities, people die homes are destroyed billions of dollars in damages thousands of families displaced. And every one of those cases, a tragedy in its own, right? But as human beings, what do we do? Do we accept it? Why? Because there's no sense in getting mad at a hurricane. There's no human intent or will behind a giant storm, nobody can be held morally culpable. So we chalk it up as an unfortunate series of events. Hurricanes are a part of nature. There's nothing we could really do to stop it. Sometimes the world is going to be at large. And I just got to deal with that the best way, I can and try to accept it to Graham Chee. This is the old switcheroo that's going on with cultural, hegemony dominant social classes, have the ability to dictate cultural norms, these cultural norms oftentimes serve to reinforce themselves and people born into these cultures. Oftentimes view, the normalized state of the world around them as nature rather than culture grant. She thinks this is a cultural story that's being told so often citizens, see it as just the way the world is something they need to learn to accept to Graham thi this is why Marxist prophecy hasn't come true. This is why the proletariat continues to live and chains because they've come to accept those chains as the natural state of the world that they need to come to terms with cultural norms, become to the average person with Graham, she calls, the quote common sense that they use to make sense of their place in the world, when the common sense of your world serves to legitimise the dominance of a particular class of people and tells you that anything you don't like about your socioeconomic situation. Well, that's just the natural order things then your very existence becomes reinforcing of cultural hegemony, you are reinforcing the political status quo simply by participating in the culture that you happen to be born into this is why people that would otherwise never stand for getting pushed around, find themselves, getting worked into the ground in a factory during the time of Graham Chee, only to accept their place in the world as a necessary part of how the world works parts of my life may be hard. Yes, but you know what? That's life. Life is hard. Sometimes. That's the sort of dialogue that goes on in the working class. But look, it's not like okay, it's not like Graham cheese, saying that life should never be hard here. The more accurate question would probably be, how hard does life need to be for a person? And how many hard aspects of life have been made into a normalized part of our modern world that we just accept that disproportionately served benefit a dominant group within society? Being marxist. You can no doubt guess what? His first and most commonly used Harvard is throughout his work capitalism. So to Graham, grantee, even people that are struggling within a capitalist system. Have oftentimes lived their entire lives, immersed in a culture that promotes the merits a capitalism this in turn creates a sort of economic Stockholm syndrome where, despite the fact they're struggling the citizens identified themselves, and their place in the world in relation to capitalist ideology, when the entire way that you view the world has been given to you by a culture that benefits from maintaining, capitalism, Graham, she would say, don't be surprised if that education produces a few blind spots. These blind spots are the point okay, cultural hegemony in many ways is accomplished by getting consent from the population to keep things the way that they are by making sure people are blind to other options at their disposal. Keep in mind as we continue talking about cultural hegemony that this isn't always accomplished by an. Organized group of people that are actively trying to control things, cultural, hegemony can exist. And people can be a part of perpetuating that status quo just simply by acting out of their own self interest. See because their self interest is always considered in relation to how the current system can help them. They unintentionally ended up supporting things staying the same what Graham. She's getting at is that for any single person or any social institution to appeal to groups that are in positions of power for the sake of your own self interest. You must in some capacity. There go along with the way that things are currently structured. So, for example, if you're a politician, or a social commentator that wants to make the world, a better place, the only way you are ever going to be able to get your message across is by participating in the existing culture and using the tools at your disposal. This is an ideal situation for cultural hegemony in one of the goals of its final stages to grant, she to make the values of a particular culture seem. So. So a part of nature, and so in line with quote common sense that the members of that culture, don't even question them anymore. To get people completely entrenched in this world where they mistake, the reality of their culture for the reality of the universe, to think the reason things are staying the way that they are because people are weighing all the options are thinking about it for a while. And then they're making the best choice, not merely complying with the demands of cultural hegemony that has control over them. That said just like the militaristic hegemony of ancient Greece. The goal of cultural hegemony is to stay in power now over time, dominant social groups, have realized that the most efficient way of doing this is by controlling people systems of values ram she thinks by and large people acquire their systems values by listening to in studying voices within a culture that he thinks are massively, important public intellectuals Graham, she makes an important distinction here between two very different types of public intellectuals, there are ruling intellectuals and organic intellectuals. Now the ruling intellectuals are going to be the sort of foot soldiers for the dominant set of cultural norms that are currently in place. These are the people whose commentary on the world is going to reinforce the status quo. Keep in mind, again, this is a no way saying that these are bad, people necessarily most of them may not even realize what they're doing. But granting nonetheless wants to shine a light on the insular and oftentimes self reinforcing world that many. Of these intellectuals, come from so often, it's from academia, so often these people are completely out of touch when it comes to what life is even like for most people in a culture think about the common archetype of philosopher throughout history, Vosper decides they're going to resign themselves from public life lock themselves away in a tower and just think about stuff really, really hard. That's the path for creating better philosophy. Now, the last thing you'd ever wanna do as a philosopher is have the basic thoughts of a normal everyday person corrupting your unparalleled genius. Right graham. She thinks this is completely ridiculous. Not only is this elitist, and making tons of value judgments about how certain human experiences of the world are inherently better and can even be corrupted by other people's experiences the world. But as I from all that Graham, she thinks this approach actually, prevents you from ever being able to participate in discussions about politics at all because political discussions, always begin from the starting point of self awareness and self reflection while. Sibling, how that self relates to all the other people around you and how could anybody locking themselves away in a closet thinking about stuff ever hope to contribute to that conversation. But nonetheless, these ruling intellectuals oftentimes dominate the ideas that are available to citizens of society. I mean so often these intellectuals are the ones that write the articles they're the ones published in journals. They conduct the studies. They write the text books, so often these intellectuals control the education of the next generation of citizens when so much of their prominence as an intellectual was only given to them, simply because their ideas corresponded with the existing social order. Here's what grantee sing, cultural hegemony is established by taking control of three things the intellectuals of a society. The education within society and the philosophy that drives people to political action. So, in other words, if you're someone that came up through the education system of an advanced capitalist society, Graham, she would say, don't be surprised if there are some pretty glaring. Holes in your understanding of capitalism. Because just to typically most pieces of information you've ever had access to have been written by people that reached that level of social influence by participating in a capitalist system that benefits, them, your high school or university wasn't taught by unbiased monks on the top of a mountain that most likely once again, just statistically, you have come up in a world where you are far more likely to hear about the merits of capitalism and all the good that it's doing for people in the world. When conversations about the downsides of capitalism, come up your far more likely to hear them, glossed over by other people. You're less likely to have someone call you out for glossing over them and the conversations likely to go in the direction of how the good of capitalism drastically outweighs the bad. When you hear people talking about socialism when coming up in an advanced capitalist culture, you're far more likely to run into conversations about the horrors of socialism how it's failed everywhere. It's been tried. And if anyone brings up something good that socialism seems to have produced. It's written off, as a broken clocks, right twice a day, sort of thing. Now, here's the really interesting part, this view of economics, and how it plays out in the world may be absolutely true capitalism. Could just be a better economic system than socialism, but, how would you ever know for sure? Because if you're an intellectually honest, person, you'd at least for a second half to consider that maybe your entire understanding of capitalism, and socialism has been given to you by a handful of intellectuals, even trusted your worldview to that are intellectuals and gain their credibility simply because their view of the way the world is corresponds with the dominant cultural narrative. That keeps the status quo going whether maintaining that status quo. Was good for a particular. Social group. That's pulling the puppet strings or whether it's good for just keeping society stable. What if you've lived your entire life learning from a lot of really smart, people that are all just telling the same side of the story? Now. Graham, she would say that. This is not just limited to capitalist societies that it's entirely possible to come up in a society that unfairly promotes the merits of socialism and creates the same sort of echo chamber of ideas. Graham cheese goal was not to replace a western world dominated by capitalist ideology with one dominated by Marxist ideology. His goal was to replace both of these narrow approaches with an ideology, where the public has a general and intense level of skepticism about the status quo. No matter what the status quo. Looks like the biggest mistake we can make to Granci is to see these ideologies as nature or the way that things are we should always be critical of the status quo. And the fact he is so critical of capitalism is just him following his own advice about the status quo. The world he happened to live in. To make a long story short Graham, she thought that marks and so many other Marxist, thinkers that came after him. We're putting the cart before the horse and away, there were all, so wrapped up in the possibility the, the inevitability of a communist revolution in the west there were so wrapped up in waiting to see capitalism, destroy, it self that they completely missed the fact that different methods of cultural control could fragment a population to the point that a revolution could never take place Graham. She makes another important distinction in his work directly to these people that were calling for revolution that for any meaningful social change to ever take place, regardless of what it is. There needs to be two wars that are fought in one first, a war of position. Then a war of maneuver, these orthodox marxists of his time were far too focused on the war of maneuver, which was the actual communist revolution that they wanted to bring about. But grant she says before that can ever happen. You. Need to defeat the cultural hegemony in award position, member cultural, hegemony will have control over three things intellectuals the education and the philosophy of society, the goal of anyone trying to bring about any kind of social change to Graham, she should be to provide alternatives and all three of these areas. They should create a counterculture an alternative set of cultural norms, and taboos reinforced by the intellectuals, whose job, it is to actively challenge the status quo. He called this other type of intellectuals organic intellectuals and it was their job to be skeptical of the existing order of things to provide an alternative means of education, that took cues from the counterculture that was created and to embolden the average citizen to take political action by giving them a philosophical outlook that changes the way they see themselves and how they fit into the world. This is why so many attempts at revolution of failed in the past two Graham Chee, the orthodox Marxist that tried to organize it didn't understand the common sense of. The workers that needed to carry out the revolution. These workers saw themselves and their place in the world solely in terms of how they relate to capitalist ideology, the only way to shift their perspective enough to see the other side would be to fundamentally change the way they look at the world philosophically. See an extremely important term in the work of Karl Marx. That was used to describe the way he saw things was historical, materialism Graham t was a Neo Marxist, when it came to these orthodox Marxist that we're talking about he distanced himself considerably from them in a big reason why was because he thought they were paying way too much attention to the materialism part of historical materialism and not nearly enough attention to the historical part of it Graham, she may have supported communism and communism may have played out in a particular way all throughout the twentieth, century. But Graham, she hated Stalin. He would have hated now. He would have hated Pol Pot. He saw people like these as opportunistic dictators that took what could otherwise have been a revolutionary political philosophy and. They used it to create dictatorships where the population was forced to deify and worship the state went to gram Chee a much more accurate reading of the work of Marx would have produced the true essence of his work, the spirit of revolution. Among people, the spirit of revolution among common people United under the desire to never again allow a handful of people to dominate and control the population to those living at the time of Graham Chee, communism and democracy. Seemed to be two extremely different approaches to trying to solve the same general problem. See, as we already know from earlier episodes, the feeling around this time in the world of philosophy is an intense skepticism towards reason. The enlightenment gave us the hope that science was the answer science when given enough time to develop was capable of giving us answers to problems throughout history have seemed completely unsolvable when applied to the realm of political philosophy. For over one hundred years, it seemed totally plausible that something like science, something as unbiased and without an agenda, as science could eventually study the way that people are studied, their brains study, the way people work together within a society, and it didn't seem crazy to think that science could eventually give us answers to some of these questions and political philosophy that seemed so difficult to answer but along came Frederick Nietzsche philosophizing with a hammer, because at the end of the nineteenth century, he asked the question. What if the very act of conducting science at all carries with it, cultural values that narrow and destroy? But it's findings we know there are many different ways of conducting science depending on the specific field urine. We know that scientific revolutions of occurred or there've been wholesale transformations of the methods assumptions scientists conducted through what if these limitations and the unavoidable, narrow scope that categorizing the universe must be viewed through is missing out on something crucial about what it is to be a human being. What if science useful as it is, was never the savior that everyone thought it was more on that next episode. Thank you for listening doctor next time.

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The Matt Bernier Show - Kentucky Derby Points Part 2

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The Matt Bernier Show - Kentucky Derby Points Part 2

"Were. Welcome in the Matt Bernier show. My name is Matt birney or you can follow me on Twitter at Bernier underscore, Matt. This is typically the recap addition. But this week things going to be a little bit different. This is part two of a four part podcast going over the top twenty as far as the point standings are concerned for this year's Kentucky Derby, I had someone asked me on Twitter. Well, who cares about the point standings? Why are you going? The only reason I'm calling it the point standings and whatnot is because it's just an order for me to go over the horses. So the first pod if you miss that you can find all the usual spots YouTube sound cloud. I tunes video dot the dot com as well as Spotify, by the way, wherever you listen to this please rate review and subscribe, you'll get everything DR of TV has to offer, but you can find part one archived and all of those positions. So they had the top five horses. This one here today is going to be six through tents over by my standards maximum security game winner Kotova honor as well as high Cal will go over the past performances. Take a look at some formulator in some instances. We'll look. Replays, when we can and when we're allowed to and just to kind of give you a brief synopsis of some of these runners as we get closer and closer only about twelve days away as of this recording from the Kentucky Derby, so a number of good things still here to come. Again, you found all those questions comments concerns for me. He the beneath the video player on YouTube or directly on Twitter at Bernier underscore, Matt. So let's just roll right into it. We're going to dive into the number six force on the top twenty far as derby points system is concerned this by my standards trained by coun- number six on the list, by my standards trained by Bret Calhoun, you can see he's only one to racist through his career. But he's never been out of the money and five lifetime starts and clearly his big breakthrough winning the grade two Louisiana derby at odds of twenty two to one I know there was some people prior to that race or a prior after the race. They were a little bit sour on the idea that the Beyer speed figure he had earned in that maiden special weight race to starts back when he broke his maiden that it was much lower than the eighty six in many people. Looked at it and said, well, if he hadn't eighty six leading into Louisiana derby, perhaps he was a little bit more findable easier to find any way, and you wouldn't have had twenty two one. As far as the odds are concerned. I touched on that when I recapped Louisiana derby, you can find that back throughout the archives. The idea is if you think you can make the figure more accurate, you do so I don't I don't begrudge any figure maker for going back and amending things going through and saying, you know, what we got this one a little bit wrong. Get crank it up a little bit. The ninety seven buyer puts this horse really kind of in the thick of things as far as numbers are concerned. And the other interesting thing about him is if you go back, and I had said it when I previewed Louisiana derby, I said that this race right here. Unfortunately, for political reasons, we can't show any of the replace for reasons that I'm sure all of your aware of. But this right here was visually. Really impressive goes off and wins more than four lengths. It was visually very very strong. The figures a little bit on the light side. And I said, you know, he's a fringe contender. Or a fringe player to hit the board at best with the figures that he had visually. I. Maybe you've got something going forward. Well, he comes through and he gets the job done here. Now granted I thought spin off the really no excuse for him not to win this race. Not just because I picked him. But he was moving at the poll, it looked like by hundred and then all of a sudden by my standards comes and runs down a couple of things that I'm looking at here with this horse know, the golden sense babies. I don't know really what their strength is. And I'm not saying that. Meaning I don't think they're any good. I don't know what their best game is as a mile light. Golden sense himself was is slightly shorter out to a mile and a quarter. I guess the jury's still out a little bit. I'm not totally convinced that a mile accord is going to be ideal. But the this horse runs it feels like that kind of ground is not going to be a problem for him. The only thing that we can look at as far as trying to project forward with the horse. Like, this is now we have had enough time coming out of the final prep for this horse, Louisiana derby, we could see some of the horses that ran behind him came back to do you'll note that he was three quarters of a length ahead of spinoff, who's five lengths ahead of Swain. Yo. Well, Swain yo has come back, and you can find this formulator obviously come up here to the upper right hand corner, and you can drop down this menu. You've got a number of different things that you can cycle through. You can go through next race though and see how these horses performed in their next race. And thus far it hasn't been brilliant. But it hasn't been bad Swain, the third place finisher who was well behind the top two runners in this Louisiana derby, he came back earned ninety three in the fourth place finish country house we earned that ninety one in the Arkansas derby, so there's at least reason to believe that this form is holding up SP somewhat. Well, it may be awesome. But it's not a disaster who see ROY came back and earned an eighty four and he was well, beaten and Louisiana derby, so things reason to believe that you have a nice horse here, by my standards, the good news here if you like the source he's going to be a giant price because there is very similar to the Dubai situation, which we talked about Pusey Parfait. There is just a negative connotation with the horses coming out of Louisiana where maybe historically over the past handful years, they have not performed brilliantly. But. Haven't really been terrible. I mean, you've had a horse like gunrunner come out of Louisiana circuit and get the job done. Really? Well in the Kentucky, Derby belief finished third in his year. And you know, what he went on to accomplish going forward? I just kind of look at it and say, you know, what there's reason to believe if you like this horse that you're looking at a horse. That's not that far off from the best tacky might even be right there with the best of generation. He's going to be twin three times the price of some of the shorter numbers from running style standpoint. I like that he doesn't have to come from way out of it. We've talked about it a number of times in any of these sort of things that we discussed whether it's on this podcast or in out of the gate, or in any of the other forms of TV the idea that tactical speed goes a long way in a race like the derby ever since this point system has been implemented. We really haven't had the complete meltdown orb. Look kind of a extenuating circumstances. Sloppy track. Just ridiculous pay situation XYZ, but you've had fast pace is recently, which horses that have been able to be relatively close. They've stayed on. And you have had your horses. Come from the back of the pack to come up and pick up some pieces, but I just think by my standards. He's another interesting candidate if I'm playing a super factor or a trifecta I absolutely want to consider using him. And I'm not completely ruling out the idea of picking him in a race like this. I like the way that he continues to improve goes out for good connections. We'll find out how he gets back to Churchill Downs. Now, he's training. But sounds like we've heard from that most recent work seems like everything is going very well for and we'll find out by my standards and interesting price in the Kentucky Derby really hasn't done. Anything wrong. Five lifetime starts number seven on the derby points list is maximum security trained by Jason service. Perfect four for four lifetime. He debuted for a sixty thousand dollar maiden claiming tag goes out wins by nearly ten. They will back in an allowance race. He wins by six they do it. Again. He wins by a million. The question was other review would be able to handle to turns. How would he actually handle real company but based on figures leading? Into the floor derby made all the sense in the world because he had run a one to Beyer speed figure in his most recent run. So he figured at least be there from a number standpoint. But usually you talk about it from a handicapping standpoint. Sometimes those numbers can look against inferior company. How do they translate when you face better orces? Well, I still think the jury's out on this horse simply because the Florida derby, we're gonna take a look at it right now. Look at these fractions twenty four forty to forty ninety eight twelve point nine for the three-quarter Mark one twelve and four and he's out there. Just cruising on the front end. He's being chased by seventy two one maiden this race and Bodey express think he's a nice little horse. But when the pace is slow as it is and a horse like maximum security who clearly has ability is able to get out there. And just walk the dog in the front end lewisite sets down. It's all over. Now. Just a matter. How far is gonna win by? He goes and gets done visually again, very impressive. But he's supposed to be able to finish this way. When he goes to slow as he does through those earlier portions in the run, especially at a track like. Stream park. Now, you can look at it though and say there there are some of the things that you wanna look at with this horse and say he's got a lot going for him. He won one of the final big preparations, which I've said time and time again since this point system has been implemented. If you have not won one of those final prep races. You really have not truly had a chance to win the Kentucky Derby because all of the derby winner since the point system has been implemented have come from one of the winners of those final preps cross the country. So he checks that box. He has one on lead. He is also one from just off of the Liege see this race right here where one point early on. He was three and a half lengths off he quickly moved up until over. But the point is he can sit off a horse and still be effective. He's wanted a mile in eight that's very important. I've talked about how finishing that final eighth in those mile and an eighth final prep races. Usually can give you an inkling about will debatable to do that going longer. And you like to see it be somewhere in that sub twenty second range wealth go into formulated. We look at the incremental 's he finished in twelve fifty two. Again with an advantageous pay situation. He supposed to be a little scoot home the way that he did. But point is he checks that box as well. He's probably also going to be overlooked, maybe overlooked, but not given much credit because whether it was debuted for the sixteen thousand dollar tag. Whether it's the idea of Jason service at this level on this stage not saying that Jason service can't train horses to win the big races. But they're still difference between the Kentucky Derby, and some of these other ones of talked about it with other people in the past. You know, you get somebody like eight no Bryant who goes the derby was just a different animal. We weren't used to the way that they were gonna go out there and throw it down. And it was just kind of like a rough and tumble sort of thing. Horses bounce off of each other. It still takes some time to learn how to get this sort of thing done. And I recognize that there are other trainers that have one with one derby entering or two or something like that. But the guys like Pletcher guys like Baffert. There's a reason they know how to get these horses ready to go for. Race. Like this not suggest Jason service can't but he hasn't had a ton of Kentucky Derby starters. So that's something that you need to factor in. So you're probably going to get a better price than you necessarily should on a horse like this. Another thing that's a feather in this horses. Cap is this piece right here? He is one for one on a wet track. And he's three for three on a fast main tracks, basically, whatever mother nature throws at this group these connections with this not going to be an issue. You have Lewis is listed great writer. We know what Lewis is Cape bluff from pedigree standpoint, New Year's day. It who knows again. He only race. What twice I've leave you on the Breeder's Cup juvenile way back win for Baffert. But you look at the bottom the dam a sibling to flat out who won the jockey club Gold Cup. A couple of times you wanna number of big races. So distance doesn't seem like it's going to be an issue. Maximum security is one of those horses, and I get he's polarizing for a number of reasons. A let you be the ones to go speak monks yourselves. He's polarizing in a race. Like this. Can he? Is he incapable of winning the Kentucky Derby, absolutely, not based on the figures based on the running style and the track record Gulfstream Park has had with the race derby. There's a lot to point to a horse like maximum security and say, you know, what you might get ten twelve fifteen to one on this horse, and really what's he done wrong. He's a perfect for for four. He goes out for plenty capable connections. He is fast. He's versatile distances and look like it's going to be a problem again, polarizing, but certainly not out of the question maximum-security very easily win a race. Like, the Kentucky Derby will find out how things shake down here. And just a few days owners, Gary Mary west have maximum security. They also have the number eight horse on the points list that his game winner the two thousand eighteen two year old champion. He was the Breeders Cup juvenile champion of twenty eighteen he was unbeaten is a two year old and he has come back, and he is over two is three year old. And if you just heard those numbers alone would say, oh, maybe he was just one of those precocious. Swords and maybe just hasn't carried on. Well, when you look and see what he's done is three year old. He's finished second by knows and second by a half length to the horses that are likely to be the favourite in one of the top three choices in the derby. He really hasn't lost anything defeat. Now has he improved while that's a that's another question to be asked. But overall, this is a horse that may be slipping through the cracks a little bit. And I don't know the -ssarily should because he he's not that much slower than than all the big boys in here. And you may be looking at tried and true connections with a horse that you know, can handle Churchill Downs. The no can handle the biggest and the best, and you might be getting another very square price eight ten to one and a horse like game winner. Let's go and start with the run to starts back. This is seasonal debut. Keep in mind, the rebel was not initially the plan for game winner. He was supposed to run in the San Felipe the week. Prior Santa Nita was cancelled they shipped him into Arkansas. This race was run in split divisions. We're gonna take a look right now, you're gonna see those purple. Soaks rolling up on the far outside, and he puts in a legitimate bid, given that this is his first star is a three year old off Vache considerable layoff to a horse that has recency and has been out there on the front in dictating things Omaha beach, and we know how good Omaha beach is. I thought this is a very respectable effort from game winner. Now is he going to get there in time? No, he's not he's gonna lose this thing by knows. But I like the way that he's tennis and he digs in and he tries to go and get that horse. And I think the best thing you can say about game winner. He's going to try. He's going to give you what he's got. Now. He's not he may not be the sexy horse. You may not be the flashy horse, like an Omaha beach or maximum security or some of these other ones, but he has that sort of grind in that will to go and try to win a race. And I don't think that can be overlooked in a race. Like, the derby the other thing to keep in mind before we move onto the Santa Anita this race right here. The Breeders Cup juvenile in about midstretch. He starts getting bounced around. And I made it clear. I don't love the Breeders Cup juvenile from twenty eighteen but he is battle. Hardin he took some series bumping and banging down the lane. Any stip still kept going on with it? He has the ability to be a little bit closer to the pace if need be personally think he's best coming from three maybe even four links off, and perhaps that compromises him slightly, Royce like the derby. But I think that there's a chance that with the pace the distance shouldn't be an issue for him and third start off the bench for Baffert proven at Santon the ice gives me proven Churchill Downs. I think he might be looking at arguably best rates today. Here we are in the Santa Anita derby just a couple of weeks ago pink silk on this far outside. He's rolling up four five wine right now, you can see the fractions, they're not overly fast and sure he's going to get run over by roadster who's gonna come and make this big move. But this isn't a comfortable trip necessarily for game winner being hung out as wide as he was. He carried a ton of ground in this spot. He was one of the first ones to go for home. And sure it looks like he's kind of laboring a little bit roadsters gonna for the most part just roll over them. But keep in mind, it's not like roadster goes off and wins by five. Five he wins. By what a half length game winner keeps digging in digging in going on. And that think that's something that you can't overlook for race like the derby. So he may not check off the box of did. You win your final prep. No. He didn't do that. Did you win any of your preps know to be fair he didn't? But I don't know that that necessarily tells the whole story with a horse like this. I think he's the kind of horse that can continue to improve third. Start off the bench Baffert knows how to win at Churchill Downs game. Winner knows how to win a church downs. I don't think the distance is going to be an issue for him. And this could be one of those rare instances where you get a two year old champion horse. That's one over the track the distances. Look like it's going to be an issue. He is not that far off from the big names if he had won one of those two prep races. You'd probably still be looking at him as arguably the favorite or one of the favorites. He still may be one of the favorites. He's gonna be considerably larger price because Omaha beach has finished ahead of him and roadsters finished ahead of him, by the way combined. It's less than three quarters of a length that he's lost these two races. Game winner is a horse that if you are looking at him saying, I you know, he's he's not what he wants was making a very serious mistake game winner. I got a giant chance to win the Kentucky Derby here wouldn't be surprised at all. If Baffert gets the job done here with this horse. Joel resort will retain them out. We'll see what happens here but game winner seems like he still goods don't write him off. Just yet for the for Saturday may ninth analyst code of honor for shook mcgahey John Velazquez. We'll have the mount in the Kentucky Derby, this is a horse that he was very impressive as a two year old. Unfortunately, a number of issues from a physical standpoint from an illness standpoint, they all caught up with him. He was a troubled sort of second in the champagne stumbled badly out of the gate made this big move from the back of the pack and nearly I should say nearly three lifespan complexity, but he made enough of a move. He would have been kind of the wiseguy horse for the Breeders Cup juvenile. Unfortunately, he misses that because of injury. Then there's an illness misses the Remington number of different things didn't work shows up in the mutual. Macho man I made it clear that it was. A terrible effort, and I still maintain. I think it was just a dreadful effort. But maybe it was nothing more than a short horse and should needed to get a race into him. He comes back in the fountain of youth, and he rebounds gets the job done wins by three quarters of a length of very very nice price at nine to one that made some people look at it and say he's back. He's ready to go. We're going to see the best version of code of honor going forward, the Florida derby shouldn't be used as sort of your barometer one way or the other of what you think of this horse because as I spoke about with maximum security complete opposite can be said for code honor maximum-security took advantage. We're gonna take a look at the replay again right now. Maximum security is on the lead code honor is out here in these green silks right now, the fractions do a horse like code honor. Absolutely no favours while meanwhile, they play into the hooves of maximum security in tremendous way, the pace has been slow. It allows a horse on the front end. It's of take that breather is going to have something left in the tank finishing. Meanwhile, a horse like code of honor who wants to have something to run at. He just doesn't have it. Now, a great. Trip in the grand scheme. He shoots up the inside. He's finishing. Very very well. The problem is these horses in front of them. They're not slowing down nearly as much as they would raise like the derby where presumably the pace is going to be considerably faster. This was a fine effort from code of honor the reason I'm saying fine. I'm not gushing about it. I'm just still not convinced about the distance for him. And maybe this is going to be a fatal flaw for myself with a horse like this. For me, the derby is about a wage like the super factor or some sort of an exotic where you can try to hit home, and I look at of honor. And I still maintain the damn she was at her best going shorter. She won the T CA at Keeneland going shorter. I understand noble mission. I believe the brother to Frankel, but I much more concerned when it comes to pedigree about what's on the bottom half as opposed to the top half. And just look at it and go man, I why do I keep getting his nagging suspicion in this feeling that shorter is going to be where this horse flourishes? Whether it's a one turn mile like we saw the champagne whether it is seven eighths of a mile on race. Like the challenger at Saratoga. I just not totally sold that additional ground is going to work for this horse. I may be wrong about that. That's something. I'm readily admitting here because I've been wrong about this horse so far, but just keep leaning on the idea that I just think he might be best going shorter not saying he can't run well at a mile sixteen reunited mile. In eighth but going out to a mile and a quarter at a shorter price. I just don't know that. I love him doesn't mean that he's not a really talented horse. Arguably one of the most talented in this year's Kentucky Derby field. I feel like going forward. His future is going to be going one turn as opposed to to code of honor, though, is very very talented horse. And again, he had everything work against him here in this race, the Florida derby, look at these fractions, and look and see how these top two finishers finished one to all the way around the track. Meanwhile, you've got a psycho honor trying to come from the back of the pack. He didn't have the pace net needed to run at theoretically should get that in the Kentucky Derby, we will find out if the additional ground is going to be his friend or his folk. Number ten on the points list for the derby, twenty nineteen high cow goes out for care McLaughlin goes out for Shad, well, stable, he's home bred foreshadow farm. This is a horse that again, most of these horses the clearly talented horse. They're showing up for the Kentucky Derby, but very talented. He's done. Nothing. Wrong. Through five lifetime starts three times. A winner runner up once a third place finisher on one occasion net third-place finish most recently came in the Wood Memorial. The interesting thing about a horse like high-cal, and I almost echo everything. I just said about coda Varner who is number nine on the derby points list that I can say about high-cal where if the pace is hot and preferably a one turn. He's gonna come with giant finish as he did to starts back in that Gotham where the pace was just ballistic off the charts. He comes from the back of the pack motza mall down late. They try to stretch them out to turn to the first time at a mile eight. This is the Wood Memorial to keep in mind. There was absolute bumper cars early on in this race. He was actually one of the few horses that guy. Out of this thing pretty well unscathed where there was no sort of bumping and banging for him. He was pretty clean throughout most of this. He was well behind a hot pace, you're going to see him back here. It's going to be in the blue silks sort of the white stripes on the cap he splitting horses. Now. The pace again has been very very hot. Now, he's going to finish with some interest. Don't get me wrong. But it does make me wonder a little bit. He took advantage of the pay situation in this race as well. And theoretically, he would have that to work in his advantage for the Kentucky Derby as well. You would think that the pace is going to be pretty quick. And that race you see him. He's continuing he's trying it's not as though he's just plugging along. But I do wonder again about distance z is this really what he wants to do. Or is he going to be better going to the main reason I bring that up his half brother is takaful who won the grade one Vosper he was a sprinter through and through his distance has got longer. He didn't necessarily get better. You look at it again from a pace situation in this race. Granted he was one of the only horses that was anywhere near a thirteen. Second final eighth of. A mile which again, if you are sort of just looking forward and trying to project another eight of a mile gets them close to that twenty second range, but boy with him being as far back as he is finishing in twenty six. I think that's probably good enough for a minor award at best. And that might even be a little bit of a stretch, you really need to have something in the tank nearly need to be finishing. Well, but also have a little bit of tactical ability not have to come from fifty out of it. And you'll look and see the way that this race was run. Sure these two horses were relatively close. But I think Tacitus and tax both much better suited for the distance, especially from running style standpoint than a horse like high-cal is. I think he's very talented. I can almost again say the exact same thing. I said about code of honor. I think from talent standpoint, they're both right there. They deserve to be here in the Kentucky Derby, I just I don't know that this is actually where you're going to see their best. I think you might see their best when they turn them back to one turn when you get some pace to run in a sprint race. And they can come rolling from the back of the back. Whether it's at Saratoga whether. It's a one turn mile at the end of the race at the cigar mile and act, I'm not knocking the horse. He's just another one that from a wagering standpoint from a mile and a quarter standpoint. I don't know I feel like he's had basically everything go his way and each pass to races. I don't know that aid. It's going to happen in the derby and be. Is the distance really what he wants he should get paste. But you really wanna go ten furlongs. Maybe you agree or disagree? Leave the comments beneath in the YouTube section beneath the video player, but I just to me additional ground with horses like high cows horses like coda Viner me some more that we talk about here in these upcoming pods. Just not convinced that additional ground is necessarily going to be their friend. Specially an extra eight going mile and a quarter high-cal very talented. No denying that goes out for great connections care McLachlan, Milena quarter. I'm just very very dubious of that. I'd love to see him turn back at some point. But who knows been wrong before maybe I'll be wrong again. We'll find out if he can handle a mile and a quarter here in twelve days time. So there you go number six through ten on the twenty nineteen derby qualifying points list, you can find all of those believe they're going to be broken down into derby contender profiles in find those all the usual spots and all the usual spots. You can find this podcast YouTube sound, cloud itunes, video dot the are. 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Episode 204 -  Accenture Podcast Series: The IT-OT attack surface and developing Australia's cybersecurity posture

Cyber Security Weekly Podcast

35:29 min | 3 months ago

Episode 204 - Accenture Podcast Series: The IT-OT attack surface and developing Australia's cybersecurity posture

"Without Trust Society stagnates economies, decline and File! My security media believes through security trust between individuals, organizations and government can be maintained. To this is Arma security will. Welcome to the CYBERSECURITY weekly podcast recording in Sydney and joined by extension team by Cambre in Perth for episode to where we're going to be talking about operational technology in the OT social. Security Environment joined by Zoe Thompson the manager for extensive security, practicing cameras. Thanks for joining US colts. And over in Perth got right. Griffin's the I. Indeed Ot laid right. Thanks for joining US FLEX I. Rival be touching on the curves innovation habat accenture in. To visit just before the lockdown. Luckily A, we were able to visit the Sava Fusion Santa in Sydney and we episode one. We covered off on threat intelligence. So this is a good segue. Now into the IT Security Environment Zoe, your camera, based and Rye your over there in Perth Zoe I. Think let's stop with your role as manager of the essential security practice, and then we'll duck either to Ryan what he's rallies in Earth shopping. Thanks craft. Will extensive security practice in cameras or I didn't advise clients on security issues. My specialty is government facing defense, national security and I guess. How I come to be advising on critical infrastructure, good in royal role in terms of a to up time to to mention to the on ants is exactly what we're going to be talking about his tim's of it it and industrial control systems and saw security show yet my role in accenture, either say the Strategy New Zealand at it, security, practice and bicycling that is covering critical infrastructure which Wigan Ah on today. Will if this phone is on podcast with extent, jibbidy follows on from the strengths. securities released last week, which kind of outlined their exercise of he held in November two thousand nine tain with a to diet exercise looking at critical infrastructure particularly. Power Generation, and it also follows on some recent news coming out of Israel, where these Israeli water authority has also gained attacked over a two day. Exercise Zoe maybe your background into banging Cambra and way. The Strand Stop Security Senator is based what your understanding about where the federal government's cost juries this spice, and then when you're looking at a latch consultancy Lock Accenture Way you're gossiping. Thanks Chris very exciting time to be in Australia looking at this issue for a couple of reasons now fiercely. Governments across the world have been slow to look at the security vulnerabilities that arise from it ut security. Issues, and when we talk about it ot convergence security issues. We're talking about critical infrastructure, so it has been a bit of a lag and I think that will probably come in come to later as to why that's occurred, but Australia has pioneered relation space, which has been absolutely fascinating, and it's an interesting exercise to look at the way eastern governors responding specifically they've established a critical infrastructure cinta within the Department of Defense and also establish some legislation, the Security Critical Infrastructure Act which we call the key. This act is very unusual in the world, because it follows on from previous acts enacted in the US News, which look at raising standards of security around it and t convergence, but this act the Australian act is fascinating, because it introduces penalties for critical infrastructure operators who found to be negligent in terms of the cybersecurity and other security measures they put around their it and not systems, so it's a very interesting time federally, and it's a very interesting time globally to be looking at the attacks cyberattacks that look at it convergence and those ICS SCOTUS systems. What's differentiation here between that I? I'd say an I tena when you need this legislation here. obviously we've had some security legislation, all Saab related legislation coming through. How much of this is focus when you talk about the security of Critical Infrastructure Act how much of that is focused on security? While the act is broad, so it talks about security broadly, and also it talks about ownership, which is a fascinating angle for infrastructure security, Australia and although the majority of the focus really is about cyber security in terms of how systems secured how they managed data how they manage their Boehner abilities, and this very specific vulnerabilities that relate to not not ot convergence that I want to go into with Ryan. This act covid a very broad spectrum of critical infrastructure security issues, which is really interesting. Any Tom it provides. I guess some challenges to critical infrastructure operators in Australia and also outside of Australia quizzes, you would know many of critical infrastructure operators and suppliers. A foreign earned said he's introduces some new interesting legislative challenges for them, and also for a lot of the providers, the operators operating within Australia. There are certainly some issues that they need to consider with Cybersecurity with regard to this act, but security broadly so for accenture. It's a very interesting and challenging time to to help our clients understand what this new and slightly ambiguous. This developing spacey's is in how best to navigate. It was interesting because it's so the Opera Act and other legislation coming through is stunning to target particular market verticals of of the economy critical infrastructure bank. One is always a gap between win. The new legislation comes through and then the uptake right. What's Bang particularly there in Perth where we would consider it is a lot of critical critical infrastructure, they monning and the lockers well. How you observing the gap of where? The application of this legislation is this is what you're observing on the ground. It's interesting Chris because it depends on the client. So what was saying government or excrement? End Clients that? Qualify behind in the maturity, but what we're seeing in a lot of the what we call us. Boys privately owned critical infrastructure, said the mining and end Raleigh so in anything with them supply chain requirements. They're a lot more hit. Enter also depends on if I have. A way they what they called a home. ease Have American Yucai head office as I to be a lot further ahead as well than those that are just likely. AMMO HAVE A head office in Asia, so you saying quote, a range of maturity across the different companies, which obviously affects Wait I sit in terms of the critical infrastructure acts in anything beyond or in front of a sustained that bet wide range. Is there a danger sometimes particularly in in this in this field where it's compliance, driven security I mean where is that gap between but compliance, but then also a F- four operators such as the power grid or for Water Authority. Understanding the safety locations as well. Day as a diet with a bank compliance driven because obviously some people just want to take the boxes and spend as little money as possible. The companies that actually do well this move saying that in some of the accenture studies that we've done those actually come from a security culture or build a security culture within the companies and try and drive it more from a at a thin based approach. Luckily talking about with mocking one nine five intelligence led lights, living's rather than trone. From a tape box on view. Nice companies are well aware of way. They're going to be having to get attacked rather than just taking the boxes I think it comes back to. Zoe was saying before a little bit as well in that it seems that the act is looking to keep the actual clots accountable will as well so that does give it a little bit more of a nuance in that on these companies shouldn't just be looking to take boxes, but to actually protect themselves successfully amp, because if I don't. It does seem to be from some financial. Detriment to their financial stability as well because I, I lies sponsored trump. I doubt it comes back to potential losses in the LAI. Zoe just looking at the operational excellence, is that the coordinated through some five hundred sixty personnel from thirty two electricity in government organizations involved, and then I've ally that this legislation that something that the government is taking very seriously. What is your observations there in camera? In terms of the skype of this is something that. Rather than just focusing on the electrical grid, there are a myriad of fat sectors that with that critical infrastructure are these exercises valuable? In who the organization generally would you be saying getting involved? Very true an APP duration that they are a myriad number of companies that will be involved in critical infrastructure, so the government has. Quite tightly. What critical infrastructure operators are in the act, but I know talking to. Clients and for Department of says critical infrastructures into that. In fact, the government is really interpreting this very broad way, and as you so rightly point out the exercises. The ACS's been focused on had included a large number of different companies, different services supplies that have stopped full under those very specific definitions. You'll see in the act night can give rethink about what? Services or what supply chains a critical to Australia? It doesn't take very long to realize that actually quite vulnerable in some areas, and what I think antic about the way that the the government is approaching. This is that they really identified very quickly the Australia. Has Some vulnerabilities in terms of dependency now just recently we've seen in the news. Some great great developments in Tim's of advancing energy security through the advancing hydrogen fund that will be very interesting. One of the key because there is to develop export domestic supply chains and improve Australian supply chain in terms of fuel security, and John Blackman is written on some really wonderful reports on this, noting that I think the statistic that he gave was counting point about ninety percent of fuel, so if you think about critical infrastructure, not just in terms of Water Halla and courts. We would also gas. We'd also be thinking about. Things that I mean we've unfortunately. Recently in real life from Bush fires from Greenwich Virus that sometimes critical infrastructure critical sevices extends to things. Pepsi might think of. PP equipment or gas masks or war any other kind of mosques and it's. It's interesting that the critically structure centers taken such a wide approach on. Exploring this and they've translated at quickly into practical activities and exercises. which I think, they should really be commendable. One of the key aspects with saw the is you often can't do lines that information sharing and it does follow on from previous eccentric podcast on that threat intelligence, and we covered things like sharing intelligence. What's the dim skill by in this between Rg in? It need to think about even if you just a a POW generator and the companies involved. It's pretty hard to get bet specialists skillset crossbar dies. In even in a small team and understanding now that threat landscape my question is what are some of the simple steps at a time would would be taking an in. How would actually share that out across the CI sector? So. There's a couple of things Chris. The teens can do what way of looking at as we want to make sure that within these companies as well, but often not actually talking together as one group and trying to be more inclusive sharing the knowledge. Because there's a Lotta great security knowledge in the IT. Departments of these companies that the IT Department can definitely lead bridge, and that is a lot of knowledge on the actual, not and how the systems work ended to get back to the autopay, and then graduated to that as well as sharing information between different verticals, and withstanding to say that now and and with talked about literacy allot butts. By saying to be on the front foot with actually talking to each other in that, so the spice was saying industry led groups now beginning to share that information around. One of the things we want to try and bright down, and this is something, but we've looking to do as an industry as well. Is looking at security? The same as we look at safety in that it's not should be uses a competitive advantage that information should be shared freely between Ahl, so we say that in the the electricity utilities and. And hoping to pull some of the other utilities, a little bit further along, because if you look at some unlike on the banking sector, they do it extremely well, so we're trying to replicate it in that, so the spice and I think the government's doing a good starting to get that across as well and trying to do that with the center of. Excellence. Where is the the line? Twain up relational technology and I T information technology. Is there a defined line, or does it become big? Ri- depending on which sector urine. There is a defining on. Site basically. In the it, we work off what's called a model? She's very similar to. Not Say S I model very similar to that level. Zero as you process level, one is where he stop putting his senses in level, two is your Pale say's level trees. Thing is scattering data acquisition, and then you have level. three point five, which is sort of added that in for Ot Dame's heads. And then level four is when you enterprise starts coming in, and that level four is where rt in ot by come together on it as a fog will eno once. In in typical companies, you have anything below that will no touch anything above that fall will touch and that she usually defining lawn run so what we're GonNa, do is trying to break down that barrier a little bit more, and let's more of a blend across that level three to level five. which starts getting into more of the data, usage, dot, acquisition and your devils, the usually will get to actually make you company more efficient. SALIVAS at about level four on the modal, by then which Rana Safeway can break that down to actually being -clusive across level three to level five. One of the. Arguments is that there's a gap in there somewhere? What what are some of our beliefs around the perception of air gap ing. Yeah, it's interesting. That a lot of people think. By do we have an acre? Don't actually really so. What are fans and we do this? A lot is when we go into client. We usually do a discovery pace in with done this in in a wall of critical infrastructure. Across Australia and we can actually map the conversations that are happening. Between different bosses. which is really quite interesting. Actually say come sessions with something's go and the information where it goes, and what you actually see is mice places I think yes, we have an air gap is not actually true egg up. They've got a Ford GM. Dongo plugged in some ways that someone can remote any look someway or they've got actually got a connection through a foul that I think is actually cut off ninety one. Why but assault actually lock that? It's noted Dada died and he's actually foul. So it actually let's information wise and is also talked about it if they raise. F With I think gap. It becomes in. There is a physical Ahah gap stuxnet things starting to actually boarding via your draws because you always want, those looks at of your it equipment the plug in. Your your spe, and then all of a sudden. You've got my way out on your equipment. Already so. It's a bit of a misnomer EPS. A daunting actually really exist anymore, and if someone says I've got an net gap I, usually take it with a grain of salt in. Don't really believe it as much as they think Zoe? Had you communicate that risk to to the client level and open of trying to communicate to the board as well a board of directors, this some basic steps, if things like understanding your address, reducing the threat landscape is China to such a degree that. These. Threats have to be taken seriously and the degree of fist dictation involved in these types of attacks. I think fest is understanding. Why humans behave the way that they do in terms of managing their security and security controls around systems now, firstly, part of that question is understanding. Why particularly any energy? And transmitters, but also the whole range of critical infrastructure operators came to the point where they were interested in remotely accessing a lot of their systems and wide hats. People have used a Gatz or purported to use aircraft as a security control, but the truth of the matter is that air gap even if exists in a physical functional construct is being manipulated me to the point that it becomes basically a relevant. Part of that is understanding. How did we get here where we? We have this control where we think we're gatsby perfect for naught and understanding that your client is in a situation where they've been heavily regulated there's a lot of competition. And of course it had to achieve efficiency, So yes, you do see a bit of bleed through in the way that they try and maintain their systems and promoting. Becomes very very desirable because it's much cheaper, it's much more effective, and you can get mugs out and make those changes much quickly than sending a person in. Particular four water, for example, some of those some of those senses and pieces of a very reminds so the human factor involvement is is substantial, so I can understand you have to understand your plants position. The second part of it is is understanding this particular threat type. It's a little bit different from Your Garden Variety cybercriminals who might be interested in ransoming Datta or ransoming system. System with a critical infrastructure operator, the degree of effort involved may not be higher that the reputational cost is is the same for the client as well as the fact that the actual outcome in terms of people losing access to Electricity Award August is is possibly a threat to life so when you look at these kind of attacks, the desirable to a different sort of. Of Segment of threat actor, not just cyber criminals who want to read some data, systems or information, they're a threat type. That's hats interesting, too sophisticated operators, and that's because of course when need to the nation's critical infrastructure, you create a situation where you can achieve leverage, and that's very interesting, too sophisticated threat actors, but gnawed as interesting to Ugandan variety criminal. He pats doesn't. Doesn't want that degree of attention to that degree of impact, because let's face it. If you have turned off somebody's water electricity, it's very obvious and it does attract a lot of attention, so it's not going to be something that is going to be easily covered up by your victim, and in a way that means you conference and repeat the attack quite so many times. In how you communicate that through to the. Environment because often security. Suffers from laid often the inability to communicate that risk. Do you think it's communicating Why or is the particular security awareness challenges in communicating than risk because it's? It's so nice to be like never happen here top approach if they aren't taken seriously. By true you do that, you get that kind of that belief that if it does happen here, it doesn't matter how we could just turn it on and off again. Could just basically move everything over to different set of systems, and they'll be no adverse consequence to us. We could maybe even disguised as sort of a glitch, but the truth is this really doesn't need to be considered at the C. Suite level, and it's becoming increasingly prevalent, so the to report of two thousand seventeen noted that eighteen percent of all type of Tax Australia at that time was ics level attack and that means that the. Script was being attacked more than any other great, which is extraordinary when you think about it back in two thousand seventeen, so certainly I imagine it would have increased since then not decreased, and I think part of the problem with communicating the consequence of this to a client is that there is a reputational risk than is also a security risk, and then there's also a risk that is kind of in a way, a little bit divorced from the company or the. The operated itself because it's a risk to a nation rather than risk to the company, so the intention of the attack is not necessarily damage the company, which makes it hard to reconcile for a sweet kind of threat assessment, so communicating that can be very challenging, but now that we do have uptake from the government intends to critical infrastructure center. You can kind of cross that narrative and hats together a bit of a collective intensive have. This could be responded to. I can add onto precipitately right. So some boys, we act communicating it to the suites, clots that way talking to these utilities clients, but we're actually bringing them into places like the safe say, and the innovation help that we've got in Perth and taking the through actual tax on virtual environments that mimic their actual environment, so they can actually see how easy it is to actually get into those environments in substantial damage. The other thing we're trying to do in our education processes well. a lot of decided will never happen here, but what's happening is a lot of the Sauber. Criminals are actually focusing on priced places like riled which we talk about. Stop you crying and things, but they're actually building tools that can be easily bulletin reuse. Enzo snap AMS NYC or crash override or Specifically aimed at IT infrastructure that can be bought off the dark web and res by an unsophisticated acta someone he doesn't have the technical skills but does have the drive to actually as zoe was talking about before to make a point by A. BIG IMPACT! Is it something you just mentioned the innovation hub there in Perth? Maybe told us through the innovation hub because it is that sharing you just mentioned from the obituaries viewpoint by openly sharing these vulnerabilities will say the as as as commonly known. I suppose the other thing. They other side we we started did touch on it at the start is of infant. This is something we also have a from the security and the point an running exercises, so he asked sharing Aaron does well. That's obviously the thinking behind cinches, but the Saudi official here in Sydney, Avalon said innovation, how in Earth yet correct said innovation have been was actually built with the premise of helping our clients. Get to what we call triple, zero zero homes, or I lost Zero Weiss obviously with Saab. Security comes into zero harmon and zero loss, and we do that by bicycling. Trying to restrict how open they ought to take a risk one. Otherwise, we're doing that as walk providing information to as soon as we can about a particular risks that. Mark B. Prevalent to they industry or alternate, the companies tried to why and that's we're doing that. In the innovation hub in the Salvi Fusion Center. And then what we're doing is obviously doing that. Education portion will bye-bye centers where we're actually taken through clients where actually putting them in rather than the state of being the defend of the attacker so they it's a little bit of fun as well as actually getting the the understanding that it's actually not that hard to get into systems, and then we get to share that information that we've currently got so you have that education portion as well. One thing I've heard. You'll get coming from both of us that it's common. Common because in the environment is the balance between productivity safety, and then obviously security from a productivity viewpoint, often the Pale as a given I, so the standard logging and username and Password from a productivity perspective that I have sort of the luxury of of a password manager on on similize Pale, say's what some of those common trae around that is at all why doing things in the it environment has to fundamentally change. Look, it is the way it is and a lot of clients. I can change the infrastructure in that what I'd call the level to. Infrastructure, but there are definitely ways that we can protect against. And Way of being trying to work with wants to do one otherwise is by segmenting off, and you've probably heard this before. infrastructure say that if one portion of the system gets attack, it doesn't affect the overall operation of the rest of the plant. So you can still all the rest of whatever the process they doing, so you can still delay, but just not as greater capacities you did before so that's one why. The second way is to use other systems to remote into what's actually lugging they of systems, even using a common with on the actual Pale sale log into the jump. Jump Balk so whatever you're writing into us. He can actually log on and restrict to actually looks into that and also record. You can actually reduce your tax. bice there as well were attack footprint on this is a lot easier to defend one guyq than it is to defend multiple nights. For that sort of the. Places will and then the wise. Actually they have visibility of what's happening on your system, so you can react to. Happen and something gets locked into. We don't think it should be at that time or is being logged into from a sentence like that. You shouldn't think that should be looked into as well. And that visibilities K. in that spice as well so he's a some of the things you can do, even though we do see that a lot of the clients. On actually pulling out the infrastructure and changing it, so you still have that default, possibly top setting hard coded passwords in the devices. Regime mentioned that segmentation allows. You will get that visibility, but also the segmentation does allow you to to manage. You'll meet a guy, particularly Zoe. Maybe just opinion shelf in terms of the security of the act and some the key steps companies should be doing not just for compliance, but there I in the sense of security around incident, management protocols and disaster, covering business continuity follows on from what reiver's talking about with that visibility in segmentation say even I something. Maybe getting done that might not be best practice or deal There's still mitigation strategies around that from a productivity respective. Obviously whenever we designing a security solution for clients, we don't. We don't want to design something or influence thing that gets in the way of functionality amine, critical infrastructure, the clues in the in the name like needs to be out to operate, so you do need to be out to enable staff to do their job quickly and effectively, so raise exactly right when he says you know there are other ways to to old man mitigate some of these risks, some of the observations that can be made from interacted with clients. WHO's that a lot of the time? There's a focused on preventing an. An attack, but not maybe not the best level of focus on up responding to an attack, all being resilient often is occurred, and this includes having really good incident, management plans and response and looking at your supply chain security as well as how you might document a response how you might manage to support an investigation into what occurred, and of course, when Ray mentions ordering in logging when he mentions the kind of access management that's required for looking at his accessing various types, vice caught system. These can be really really important, because it allows you to festively understand when pastors for actor in. In your system, and potentially at before, any impact is actually realized, which is always a good thing. Another thing that I would suggest clients do would be to to do a better job board attempt to do a better job of informing themselves into like understanding the environment that operating in currently because of the way that companies a working in these sectors it is difficult to share information about attacks, but if you are able to access some of the information out there, that is supported by government, or even just by filming good dialogues with other companies that are working in similar threatened by. By amounts to you, you could be better informed a better aware of the type of attacks happening globally for critical infrastructure operators, because as read made the point earlier. What we're seeing is an increasingly high level of availability for tech tools, which means that if one type of operator is experiencing attack, it's highly likely using a similar system more similar technology it Ortega. You yourselves could be experiencing something like that shortly. New would make sense to just make sure that your as best pad. He possibly can to detect it and to degrade distrupt any attack that's happening and then respond resilient off to. Dad The current environment will say cool is a lot of companies to have a look at their in business continuity planning, and hopefully take that next step on things like disaster recovery, and then I think once company stops to look at they business, continuity and disaster recovery they they go full circle. Be Better. Look at security and Mike Show doing it right. Right in the first place, well on that note, I would say an it is a very big topic. Just finish off commentary around the skillset in this audit. Touch on it early what you're finding around the mix of skills. Is this something? Obviously? That's an attraction at the both of you professionally in in terms of the the challenges of this particular field. I'm happy to go. Fast If. You Want Zoe. It is for me authentic quiet. Quite challenging to look at it from a different point of view, Chris Obviously we discussed at the stop but I. Come from an engineering background, so I'm used to building lay systems and I started building they systems I didn't take security into a at usability in availability into account so His head and trying now to come up with ways of securing the systems that are built in the past. Is actually quite interesting in a funded. That point of view and changing the paradigm a stimulating. And with saying skill set a lot of engineers are coming into tron build into that security spice in Vosper says well a lot of people in the security spice, trying to build into the tastes by I think we need both sets of skills to actively protect our infrastructure against a malicious attack. It's otherwise We're GONNA. Miss out on now. What age of by different pops of people have to give those of the strengths they feared. I count from a national security background. So I suppose my interest in this is intensive, the vulnerability that I see in critical infrastructure systems present. Particularly as they are such a wonderful. Area to attack a nation or to attack a population from. That, it's incredibly important to make sure that it in not security around these systems is really really good, and I am. It's really fascinating county wedding this area because it's it's a time where we see governments and companies and industry broadly trying to tackle. The previously is just sort of Fulham by the wayside is as I said that it it was never it was never a concern, but now that we're living in a in a much more digital age. It's become a vulnerability. Where never was before and so I think that this is an interesting I guess frontier for security wet very much the run in the midst of a very interesting time as well so look. We've been joined by Zoe. Thompson the manager for accenture security practice in camera and Mr, Reich Griffiths the. Ot laid over there in Perth. Thank you very much for joining school episode number two of three pot series accenture. Thank you very much for joining us on the Soviets Pretty.

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Cruising with Carnival

Talking Points

23:51 min | 8 months ago

Cruising with Carnival

"Hey you out there just you my favorite talking points listeners. And what should we call the points posse. I don't know about that. Maybe it'll stick anyway. It's episode two of our Special Cruise Week on the podcast and you haven't heard episode one drop with exclusive Norwegian cruise line news. So make sure you check that that out wherever you get your podcast and then head over to the point. Sky Dot Com for all the fun and environmentally friendly details on. What's in store the next time you said sale bill now on this episode? You're in for a treat. We recently stopped by the Global Forum. Which is the largest travel industry intelligence and marketing platform on the planet seriously? It's a really amazing conference. They hold all over the world. The SKIP conference dishes out. All the news info data and services to every sector of the industry not only does that include airlines but covers cruises to so lucky we got exclusive one on one time with Arnold Donald the President and CEO of Carnival Corporation we talked about who cruises carnivals future and so much more. Here's episode two of of Cruise Week on talking points with Arnold Donald the president and CEO of Carnival. Right after this. Welcome to this episode of talking points. I'm your host. Brian Kelly the point sky and today we are taking to the high seas. Yes that's right we're cruising using on today's podcast. We've got our no donald who is the president and CEO of Carnival Crews Corporation which happens to be the largest travel. Oh Leisure Company in the world and largest family of cruise ships with over one hundred ships right now arnold. Thank you so much for joining talking points today. Thank you Brian and his wonderful to be with you. So I can talk about our nine lean cruise line brands. So let's talk about cruising there's a huge upwards of thirty million Leeann people this year are going to cruise. It is definitely a subculture. Why do people love cruising so much? It's not really a subculture. What happens is someone takes it's a cruise and in they cruise on the right experience for them they become cruisers for life So it's not a subculture. Yeah is actually everyone. Yeah could be cruisers for life if they cruise in the first place so under penetrated in every market in the world. And we're GONNA be under penetrated us one point four billion estimated travelers year. Half a billion vacationers a year in the world thirty million cruisers so really small part of the market all the cruise ships added together at Upton less than two percent of hotel rooms in the world one of every two people cruise with us. So we don't even consider all the cruise lines as competitors because I we're gonNA chase the other one percent and we're gonNA chase the ninety eight percent. Yeah it's not that as cruises for certain types of people is that there's a certain cruise for every person if you're with a bunch of college friends different way the kids with you a different one different destinations. If you're dying to go to eighty that's GonNa be a certain choice but the reality is at any moment in time there's a Reich cruise experience for what you're looking for Socialization Fun Excursion Adventure. Sure whatever it might be and if you get that experience in that moment you're looking for it you realize cruises just the best way to travel all right just a quick update from your perspective have on the heels of Hurricane Dorian that ravaged the Bahamas. How are the Bahamas you know the Bahamian people are extremely resilient we have a lot of operations in Grand Bahama almost wish was hit by during we have a shipyard there we have a new project? We're building a new destination there. That's GonNa Continue. The shipyard is up and running not only is up and running but while also providing technical support and manpower to help get the water system you know for the area for the general population reinstituted and we're also helping with the hospital spill to get the hospital up and running but the shipyard is already backed up. We have private islands there. We have a destination throughout the Caribbean but to private islands and the Bahamas Half Moon Cay and princess key. Both of those are up and Robin already and we have another project a new project we have one in half moon cay well established but a new one. We're GONNA continue with that so we see a good recovery. Our job is to bring commerce to help that recovery accelerate and then the provide the support that that we can through that and through the rest of the community people. I think a lot of people sumo crews Caribbean and Mexico but in fact Asia. And you know there's there's crews routes what's that are rapidly growing around the world for some listening who's never cruised or doesn't want to do Caribbean. And what are some of the hottest new routes that you see. The first one was home is don't sell the Caribbean in short. There's you know a lot of ports in the Caribbean and you know Eastern and southern and so on but having said that we go to seven hundred destinations around the world and Artika to Greenland to China dying to go and We go all over the world you pick a place you want to go. And in many many cases the best way to see that place take Alaska Is By. I've never been. I've got a last by cruises. The best we know we were going to Cuba hugh before a while. The best way to go to Cuba was definitely by ship. And now that's essentially been nixed for the time being what has been shut down time. Hopefully hopefully you know the administration They did it for reasons. They had related to Venezuela and other things. Hopefully they'll change. And if not some future administration hopefully will how involved involved you as CEO with all these crazy new things you're putting on the cruise ships. We have roller coaster. Can you have a roller coaster. Whatever roller coaster on Carnival Mardi gras which will come late? Nations will be the first roller coaster. SC Oh my gosh is that a is a passenger cruiser experience. Is that something you get very involved in absolutely you come to you with the final say but we go big like what the roller coaster on the but we also go small so we have expedition ships wielding to Varo SIBOR line. Yeah they'll they'll have a couple of submarines on them so you can go onto ice cap. So is very different types of experiences depending what people are looking for So it's no one thing that fits it's everybody some people. They don't want the water parks and roller coasters. And all that other people they love that and so what you do. Is You create different experiences across the Brian's so how do you keep up. I know you have over twenty five ships in the works. I mean it takes years and years to build a ship right. And what is the right number of ships in the fleet to now now as you as you mentioned. There's almost limitless upside. And you know we do have a lot of myths about cruising as an industry and as a company we have to overcome and so you have to be careful in the capacity expansion that you don't bill facet in your ability to creating demand especially but the truth and especially with economic. On term geopolitical tensions attentions people are afraid to travel places all those kinds of things and you got to balance all that but fundamentally what we do is there only so many shipyards. There's only so many slots so you're going to build new ships. The question is you know. How fast are you going to retire? The less efficient Vessels you have and that depends on the level of demand you try to keep all the ships relevant for the brands. You know for the individual brand and we used to have a one and a half the two year period you know. We keep hearing biggest biggest the biggest. What is the big are? We GonNa have aircraft carriers that are carrying passengers around the world. And how can we be honest with you. Today's cruise ships are much larger than Harry so the typical aircraft carrier and and what they call Gross Register. Tons displacement of Whitewater does more you know like ninety five thousand Russian outstretched tons and Typical cruise ship now can be one hundred eighty while there are some. We don't have one two hundred twenty thousand Rolls Register towns so already larger aircraft carriers to be honest with you but But having said that you know some people want that big experience and some want you know seaborn born ship which has four hundred fifty guests six hundred guests so we bill new ships that are small. Yeah we bill intermediate size ships with two to three thousand guests and we. Yeah Bill that carries six thousand six hundred because this very different experiences and and people like different things I know planes get sent to a graveyard or scrap. What happens to an old all cruise ship? Do you sell them to other budget. Lines or co life cruise ship can be forty. Fifty years will keep them in our fleet twenty five thirty thirty plus years And then we made then sell them to another use. It could be island bruising. It could be floating hotel. Some people have have timeshare programs where they say we'll give you a cruise for a day or two come check out this timeshare. So is out of our market kinds of activity and often the ships goal go there for some period of time. Let's talk about loyalty airlines have highly sophisticated frequent flyer programs multiple tiers free flights. Clearly you're working with the different model title and cruisers. I would say are way more loyal than airline passengers when you get someone who's passionate. Can you just talk like high level. I know you guys have rewards programs for the the cruise lines are not as I would say popular in my opinion from my perspective. You know with credit cards and what is your take on loyalty and driving passenger growth. Our job is to exceed our guests expectations everyday. And if we do that well we generate the loyalty. You're talking about and each brand has zone loyalty program in many. Instances is more a badge of honor That the guests treasures they do get special treatment mm-hmm and benefits and offers and all that which helps make them feel special as saw a badge of honor to say that I've achieved platinum level. Whatever level might be in a given brand so we find that our loyal guests do value the loyalty programs we try to to enrich experience for them for their loyalty loyalty and I will say every brand has a very high degree assessor one of the things that has irked me in the past about cruising and it has improved as the Wi fi on board and it was really slow and really expensive it will wifi ever be free onboard or at least broadband speeds? What are the limitations there tech? Y you see well. We have medallion net. Which is the fastest Wi fi AC- across a large portion of our fleet? Now with medallion that in most instances. Does you're going to get you know. Land like speed and everything and so is of huge you can stream and so on and so forth there are still pockets. Any in it depends on on satellite coverage and allies are generally not in spaces where there's very low populations And so you know. There are gaps in the satellite coverage as you sail around the world because again is oriented around population centers. And so given that you know you can always have some areas where it could be slower more you out of service for a bit but the cruisers today you're not as C.. For thirty days or anything. You're always import somewhere report. You're going to have it. But on the ship itself we've dramatically enhanced the Wifi experience across a large portion of women value net. I've had mixed experiences France's boarding. Sometimes it can be a little bit of a cattle call sometimes better than others. You know you guys do try to time it. But what technology like airlines are using biometrics rex to get people through quicker and what are some of the ways that you're trying to get that. On boarding and debating variants fast embark ation experiences very speedy beatty as With facial recognition technology and other technologies including our own technology of Ocean Ocean medallion which is in our princess this brand but beyond ocean the carnival line. You know has a an APP that works phenomenally. Well embarcation process R. E. Brand has has gotten embark Asian down to as little at times as thirty seconds and And so There's many technologies available. We you lies vary ones the round the world every homeport has different depending what country has different regulations. And so on and so forth you have to you know Taylor make everything. But but the reality always embark Asian is becoming less and less friction marina. So we want to do with travel all NASA principle behind our our ocean platform warm where you have a little desk. An Ocean medallion that identifies you as like a license plate We have sensors all over the ship. And I every crew member knows your name name. They know what you like. What drinks you like what you're excursions are etcetera and your cabin accepts? You don't need a room key. You don't even need a cell phone you don't want to but you can have a phone the stuff on it but you don't have to and You know you don't need a room key. Your Room recognizes you and accepts you. You know the bartender knows your name. Those what drank you had last you leave. Leave the bar and go on the bow ship and you're looking at whales in Alaska and the whales. Now you as well the drink the drink will come the virtual some future future technologies where you can see virtual whales know probably your name but in even is just personalized customized travel just to remove the friction and travel and I and that's what everybody aspires to all right. We're GONNA take a quick break right now to hear from our sponsors. Welcome back to episode two accrues week on talking points. Let's jump back into my conversation with Arnold Donald the President and CEO uh-huh Carnival Corporation. Now CEO do you get to go on a cruise and enjoy it or are you working when you're onboard. Our our enjoy being on our ships first of all one hundred fifty thousand passionate dedicated committed employees whose human spirit level is so high because their goal list to do the right things in the environment and in the communities we touch but also they exceed our guests expectation. And they're bitter Scott. Hi So I- thrive live on the energy of our people. Secondly guests choose to go on a cruise. They're having the time of their lives. They're developing memories having great moments with the crew wit each other and again in human spirit level sky high so I love going on the ships because I'm like most people human spirit and when you feel that energy the and all the positive vibes on a natural high. That's fantastic now most of the. US airline CEOS always flying coach to set a precedent. I have to ask. Do you do the interior state room. mm-hmm when you cruise you know I have done that once but mainly You know We don't cruise for free so I won't cruise for free either interest. I I got a big discount for a week or two. Yeah but beyond that point you know we can get friends and families or whatever but I usually paid a cruise because I have a hundred and fifty thousand employees with everybody cruise for employees. have any guests on So the reality is you know. I'll pay for cabin you got into cruising. I heard a story. I don't know if this is true that blackjack role and I'm a huge blackjack are layer myself. Yeah in fact with my employees any time we travel. We always play blackjack bonding experience. So is that true that black check what got you involved in cruising in the beginning. Well how I first cruised. I was a amateur card counter and I trained and believe it or not in North Dakota into our blackjack tables where they train the dealers vegas and so while they you were training picking taught me how to play in the account and then they advise me. At that time. This was an eighties at that time. The best place to play was on on cruise ships so I took my first cruise to play blackjack I was amateur car. Countervailing never caught. You was the reason to catch you. Because they have limits and stuff so I could win a few thousand thousands bucks guidance so you weren't walking out of their one hundred grand and I never did thousands jeffs but hundreds of thousands. Let me just catch your style. This could tell me a a lot about your leadership too. So you've got a six and a five in the dealer's showing an ace. Do you double down six eleven dealer's showing the double. Let me tell you how you have to play it for real if you're counting. Yeah it matters was in the deck right okay and and if you're not counting then double down got it okay but if you are a calculated risk taker now if your accounting you go with with with the count is independent with account as you nowadays. You can't really count because there's so many deaths in the well now you can't kill because even on our ships you know Kinda although shuffled yeah shoe start shuffling and you'll never get it but back in the day when I did it they could go down to half a deck and she you're paying for your own cruises. This is just by gambling. I made money every time but only we'll play like an hour and all you have to wait until you cost the deck right right and then you up the bats and and you were fine so fun fun but it was. It was an amateur thing. Never going to get rich doing that. It was a hobby. Louis Tussaud no no question you do well you know so. Tell me about your leadership so I'll tell you exactly what I do. So if I was playing conservative I probably would just hit it. I had two drinks. I would double down right. It depends how frisky I'm feeling but but funny enough I actually you know after a couple of drinks. I play better game a blackjacks. Jax I think less than you actually go with now. Of course too much to drink is a whole different story. But I think there's a nice balance of losing you know having a couple of cocktails and feeling and you know the important thing to remember is entertainment value. Exactly I think I think you are supposed to anytime time that you have an eleven. I think we should but you can't yeah depends yes cruising experiences. I'm dying to take is the transatlantic from New York City To be able to leave from Manhattan the Queen. Mary have you done it and you know I have not hear people talking about getting dressed up every night Saturday school glamour. Yeah psychotic bucket list thing. Everybody wants to do as you see a lot of stars you'll find a lot of musicians like taking the transatlantic because because it's the best way to get their equipment over and And Eight and they're pretty particular about their equipment with them and they sail with it and we have some of the best lecturers Oxford University Lecturers You know have a planetarium onboard and saw a phenomenal experience in June of this year. You guys openly admitted the two knowing that you need to be better about sustainability and the environmental management. Can you talk through since the steps Carnival has taken to make cruising more sustainable. Yeah thank First of all we're taking a lot of steps obviously before the situation in June but I think the most important thing is one stake is one too many you know. One misstep up as one too many and we need to learn from any mistakes made or any missteps made make sure we don't repeat those but also learn from those to try to mitigate any possible future ones that can happen and so for us you know we see it as you know. We did something wrong. We need to take care of that and number two. Okay what are we doing to make certain that we're doing everything we possibly can. So there's nothing happening again. We brought in a guy impede Anderson Former federal prosecutor also quarter-point monetary etc to help us an ethics and compliance. We pull stuff across the corporation. Put it in one group He's adding additional talented vicious procedures additional processes ten has our overall compliance efforts. We've amped up all the positive. How's it if things we were doing already in terms of reducing single use plastics modifying Handle food waste and so on we have invested in and technologies for years with a I will liquefied natural gas to reduce emissions. We helped develop the technology of advanced air quality systems to help reduce emissions in crews. Who's on the scene? I just Vosper for the industry. We're doubling down on all those efforts and constantly looking at new things we can do. And then we've invested in marine environments everywhere in in a world with is maintaining coral reefs are whether it's tiny You know help clean up beaches or whatever and we'll continue to do those things I know. Animal Tourism mm-hmm is a something. That's growing using animals as props you know like swimming with dolphins and things like that has carnival taken a stance from the excursion front on limiting the environmental impact of excursions first of all in terms limited environmental impact excursions. Absolutely in terms of -ticipant marine lighten. We respect the Marine Environment Obama respect marine life. The things we do we do with regulations that are accepted and generally recognized as safe for the environment and unhealthy and safe for the marine life. If we engage in anything all right our final question. It's a little bit of a selfish one so I WANNA do a luxury cruise. What do you think I should do? seaborn born or Canard putting Tuck. You're not putting me It depends what you want. So seaborn small ship Ultra luxury ultra ultra. You want a six foot seven you want small yacht like if you WANNA know Cetera. Caviar yes Frozen vodka and lay's potato chips at two thirty two who you're going to have it and everybody will know your name because this'll small shop so yeah so that's ultra luxury Cunard is luxury and icon it. Yeah Queen Mary to his only ocean liner in the world. And there's only one oceanliner and his Queen Mary to their cruise ships but only one ocean liner but his their caviar. Yeah and you can also get on on this suit. Three thousand folks as ballroom dancing and dressing every night and high not in the afternoons and so on so you know different experiences One Super Bowl tra- luxury yacht like the other one classic you know High Ryan crews and to say so I would tell you do both do both reasonable seaborn to Antarctica or yeah wherever you want to go and do the transplant on clean. Mary's is sold Arnold Donald. Thank you so much for joining us and I look forward to seeing you on the high seas in the near future future. Thank Ryan always a pleasure. Thanks very many thanks to Arnold Donald. CEO OF CARNIVAL Corporation entire team on the ground at skipped the skiff global global forum is now in six year. 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