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"voorhis" Discussed on My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
"More to find out how helen had been spending her money before she vanished. And that's when they find out that most of her spending was on you guessed it in the horse trading business. Oh so she had spent in only a couple of years up to and maybe more than a quarter million dollars on horses and show on show horses something of rich people do though right but yes fishes because well because horses as a pet are so expensive like you buy them then you have to board them. You have to train them. You have to do all this stuff. So it's like so much. Money is part of it. So all of this. It all points back to richard bailey. Which is the man who is. He's all up in the middle of that horse business. And why would she even be interested in it or spending money on this so so of course they start wondering whether which bailey could have been involved in helens disappearance but since manx job to figure out how helen's money should be managed a not to criminally investigate her disappearance. There's nothing he can do with his findings so after a three year. Investigation manque goes to the judge in nineteen eighty. Who's presiding over the matter of helen's trust and says his investigation's inconclusive. The judge puts helen's accountant ever more in charge of her trust and says she hasn't turn up in the next four years then they can return to the court and petition to have her declared dead. Which is what they end up having to do On may twenty four th nineteen eighty-four which allows her her will to finally be executed and her brother to collect over two hundred thousand dollars in interest from her trust but much of the remaining money in that trust goes to charities so oddly enough even though he claimed not to be included in helen. Bronx will jack. Matt lick is also given fifty thousand dollars which later on in nineteen ninety-three. He ends up having to give back because of all that stuff with the checks. Basically charles voorhis helen's estate starting to bring a civil lawsuit against him no car if he doesn't give up that that claim because he's basically taken more than yeah that so that's what he does in the whole thing gets dropped okay so then in nineteen eighty nine after several women report being victims of an interstate wire fraud. Us attorney start investigating and they are led to the chicago horse business and whose name comes up first and over and over again. but richard bailey's so on the surface richard. Bailey looks like a successful honest businessman who mixes but money buying and selling show horses. He owns bailey stables and country club stables and established himself as a well known figure in the chicago equestrian market but their investigation quickly reveals that a longtime criminal organization called the jane gang headed by a man named silas jayne is essentially running all horse business in chicago and richard. Bailey is one of his closest business partners. So what it really turns out to be that richard bailey is like a lonely hearts con man. Just like the lowest of the low. So and helen. Brach wasn't his first or last victim So basically richard bailey would romance rich older widows introduce them to his horse business. Bring him down to the stables. Yeah have a mixed in with all of those people Convince them they should also by horses and be involved in that scene and then fleece them for everything that he could take basic. His normal con was that he would say i of these horses. I've i've located some horses that you should buy and basically selling these women grade f horses at a great price right but he also did a bunch of other stuff. This is actually a quote from the true. Tv dot com article by mark gribben. It says quote while executing his schemes. Bailey was not averse to taking advantage of his victims weaknesses..
"voorhis" Discussed on Yesteryear Old Time Radio
"Now reporting from advanced, Allied Command both of the invading forces. Like naval commander in chief Admiral Bertram Randy go ahead Maryland? Do startling revelations on the nickel operations of the front. Alive where one hundred percent successful in putting the original assault force of the JOR in the beachhead. The naval command had planned on a ten percent loss of landing. In running a minefield and artillery fire nation. But the lack of Germany. made the initial amphibious paid amazing. They only naval lot suffered where light combat. Bentham suffered casualties did not affect reminding. Second Avenue Ramsey officially announced the invasion of Europe and made a false start on Sunday night when we can put him free or call back on account of weather. You'll remember earlier. I told you the invasion convoys had to refuel before sailing last night. This was the. The allied. Naval commander empathize again and again. The important part ideal weather conditions played in the plan of attack. Headquartered only eight hours after age. Our Ramsey added and I quote. We have broken across and started off on the right foot. We have got the enemy on the wrong foot now McLean to give him a chance to regain balance. I have always said given the weather and a reasonable amount of less. We put the army on the other. We expected some opposition on the way over and a bit of a over their shore batteries, but we don't. We could overcome that. Frankly, we believe that it. Was Unlikely. Admiral Ramsey expressed surprise by the lack of German reconnaissance last night. That he did not know. We've got through. The defendant based on the British admiral continued and I have taken General Montgomery. We have made it possible for him to find a land battle, but we still have a long way to go the ball. We make it possible for money to win that battle. We put the. From Maryland. General is time place. You've been listening to a report from Allied headquarters somewhere in England the American radio correspondent Merrill Muller. And now for a special broadcast from the Radio Gallery of the House of Representatives and interviews with congressional leaders CBS takes you to the Capitol building in. Washington. Bill, Henry reporting. Good Afternoon Ladies and gentlemen. This is Bill Henry speaking to you from the radio correspondents get. In the Capitol building the radio, Correspondence Gallery of the House of Representatives, we have here today. Quite a representative gathering of the Congressmen congresswomen who have enjoyed like all good Americans the noise and the news that has come in, and we have enjoy not only are enjoying the news, but we are also worried I'm quite sure as to the outcome confident as we may be today I. Think to speak first to us, I'd like to speak to a veteran of the last war congressman Melvin J Mosser Republican of Minnesota, a member of the Naval Affairs Committee Congressman, Mazda who have any particular reaction to the first news of the invasion, well, of course it. Relieved to know that it is started. However, we mustn't take the initial starting as the end, this is the beginning and while we're all children. This is a serious occasion and should sobers. This is not a carnival or going to be. Thousands and thousands of boys Diane we should. Take this as a sober moment congressman I. Take the to speak from experience, not only your experience from the last war, but also from your experience in the South Pacific. One things were definitely very tough price. Is that correct? Yes I Like many other members of Congress who've been in the wars, have seen some of this at first hand, and it's it's. It's not a kind of A. It's not a holiday. Wars now never is pretty grim business and I think that the best way we can support the boys that are over. There is to carry on our normal activities at home not. Not to declare a holiday not to take one minute off the best way to support them as for us to carry on and continue to keep the home front at full speed. That's the way to help. The boys go folks. Beat over there well, thank you very much. Congressman Mas we appreciate that settlement and I'm sure that everyone agrees with you on it. Now the democratic floor leader of the House. Congressman McCormick of Massachusetts Congressman. Could you tell us what happens when the news I came in? One knew the House came in session this morning. Well of course after the reading of the Journal and the. Prayer by the chaplain. On my unanimous consent request. students. Science silent prayer. I know what my thoughts well one of the. humbleness matter of fact this morning, when I first heard of the the actual invasion of taking place, a strange feeling came over me and I'm still possessed of it. humble feeling I have no knowledge of the young men and men fighting dying that we might have freedom at future. Generations of Americans have freedom. that fighting whether faith. Faith in God and faith and country, their fighting for a future decent real. and. Their first job is to fight to win the law for our country's preservation in continued existence. But I hope that after this war is over. At the next generation of youngsters, both of whom are not on on yet I'm bomb. Will not be engaged in another destructive global war twenty five years from now. That, we've gotTA have. Big Canarian, courageous leadership after the war's over. Thank you very much. Congressman I'm sure that we all very definitely agree with you on that now. The. Members of Congress. Of whom we're all very proud as MRS edith nurse Rogers one of the women members of Congress Mrs Rogers. What do you think we'll be the reaction of American women to the news of the invasion? They women of America have always been raised. About this grim and terrible invasion. The mothers and wives and sweethearts giving a son. Relatives Man, they hold their than their own life. They believe. But this war as a result of the victory. That we will have a a nation rebound already will revolve. And all the boys are fighting to make a better world. You know we have serving as listed is wet. Marines waves five. Military Services. Some two hundred thousand winning. Many of them serving overseas. Rogers I'm sure that every American feels as you do on that point I. isn't it true that? Your particular area of the United States has. been extremely well represented in the war, but has perhaps suffered more than its share of the casualties. We locked weight many men and fell how? And the poll. showed. My own city of Lowell. Lost More men women died. Than in any other community of comparable size, it's always been a very. Patriotic City they've known. This is the greatest moment in the history of world. Well. Thank you very much congresswoman Rogers. We appreciate your coming here very much now for the cinema, perhaps from the completely the other side of the country, we have one of the younger members of Congress Congressman Jerry voorhis Democrat of California Jerry What are your general reactions to the news of the invasion? I. Don't suppose it's necessary for me to say that. This is one.
"voorhis" Discussed on Coronavirus Daily
"This is corona virus daily from NPR. I'm Kelly mcevers. Today is Thursday April second. I was just can Joe Joe. Megan to both of you. That that number that we've been looking for just crossed and you'll forgive me at my jaws on the ground. Us Weekly jobless claims total six point six million versus three point nine million six point six million people impact being felt all across the country. Right now as we're basically shut down it is a number never seen before in the history of the Labor Department numbers that we saw over the course of the entire great recession and we don't know how many of these people are going to get back to work at. How quickly because this happened so fast? The state offices that process unemployment claims have been overwhelmed. Currently receiving more calls than we can ask all agents are busy servicing customers. We try again later of your and the backlog of claims is almost certain to grow your basic asking people to stay home. With the to Work Lydia Boozer at Oxford economic says as many as another ten million people might be laid off that would be twenty million Americans in a matter of weeks. We wouldn't have think a few weeks ago. That's something like this would would have been possible. There is little bit of good news. Right GIG workers self-employed people in freelancers are now eligible for unemployment. Under the Economic Relief Act that passed last week. All that goes to say if you or someone you know has applied for benefits. It might take some time faster. Save is you why online at. Ebd Dot C. A. Q. V. Board Flash. You I underscore. There are now more than one million cases of Cova nineteen worldwide and in so many ways the story of this pandemic is scarcity. Not enough tests enough of masks. Not Enough Hospital beds. And Not Enough Ventilators Jessica. Van Voorhis is an emergency room doctor and New York Presbyterian Methodist Hospital in Brooklyn and she is seeing all that scarcity firsthand. She talked to Stacy Vanik Smith on the indicator it's NPR's Daily podcast about business and the economy. How many ventilators do you guys have? Apparently our respiratory therapist has been gathering vents for a while prepping for this and they were saying he had fifty five patients on vents. And apparently you know we had seventy vessel hospital that's like only fifteen ventilators laugh ramp. That's kind of getting getting there waiting for them to call downstairs and be like okay. They're four left like you have to choose. He just hasn't happened yet. And then you have to start picking who the Gal who really really most need events later. Yeah and even maybe who who safe right so like who who has the most likelihood of surviving? Because you don't want to put someone on events that you think they won't survive you know. Do you save somebody who's younger. Because they have more years ahead of them or do you save somebody whose middle aged because they have knowledge experience. That's not a call that you've had to never never and and you're worried that you might have to start. Yeah in Italy. They certainly had to make those decisions. Because they didn't they ran out of ventilators and they started to just choose younger people or whatever you know but they said it's hard because sometimes you're sort of like these two are a tie. They're very similar a horrible trace to have to make that. No that's really that's I mean. Have you thought about that allied or well? It's really the concept of triage sorting Haitians into like more severe and less severe trying to provide the most good for the greatest number. So I feel like I could actually make those decisions if I had to. And and that's a good thing because you want somebody who could make that decision right but do you think that is coming with questions of resources. Possibly linked ventilators and things like maybe and they're doing creative things like it turns out you can actually put more than one person on a ventilator machine itself is strong enough to give breaths to maybe even three people so that oh just kind of crazy like definitely have never seen that done before but the respiratory therapist for saying that that's possible and it ended effectively doubles the number of events that you have. Yeah which is crazy. Have you seen a lot of people dying from from Corona virus yet? Not One that I've admitted to the hospital like certainly we're seeing people coming in cardiac arrest and not make it. Is it mostly very older people? It's actually been a really burn range. So the patients coming in with corona virus and needing oxygen people. I've seen peoples in people in their thirties. Who have no health problems so we all know? This is a really Virus but I feel like say you one percent of the population that catches it which I would say. Most of the population of New York City is going to catch it at some point. Say One percent of people die well. That's a lot of people right so I feel like the next wave that's going to be coming. Which is really sad and we all kind of have to emotionally prepare for is the wave of death that's coming there's going to be really like big national like bereavement and people should be ready to know. I feel like we're still at that friend of a friend phase and eventually it's just GonNa get closer and closer to home and everyone's going to know someone we haven't yet. I'm going to be happy when we peak and things start going down because then at least you know..
"voorhis" Discussed on The Boomstick Video Club
"Dead and then a car pulls up into the campground and it's this. It's this blonde older lady and we're like the audiences like who the heck is this lady she hasn't been present at all throughout the whole movie. So that was kind of that was kind of weird because like WHO's this random lady that just drives up? So alice runs over to her and she's like they're all dead they're all dead and she's like as Kamba cucumber she's like will I'm not afraid? I'm not afraid young lady. So. Immediately. Though audiences like okay. Here we go here. Here we go. So. Yeah. It's revealed. That this blonde lady is none other than Jason Voorhees mother and as soon as she says that everybody's like, okay. Yep She's the killer and then. She's telling the story all over again about how Jason wasn't a good swimmer and those two counselors weren't paying any attention. They were too busy making love. Don't have sex in a slasher movie. I thought we cover this. Okay. So now I'm going to talk about probably the creepiest. Entire movie. It's when the final girl runs away but MRS voorhees she stays behind and just watches her run away and then she starts talking to herself. It's very clear how messed up Mrs Voorhees really is it's almost like she has a split personality very similar to Norman Bates because she starts talking in her son's voice she starts whispering to herself Keller Mommy Keller, and this of course is the birth of Jason's famous noise that he always makes throughout the entire Friday the thirteenth franchise he always goes change. which is basically short for killer mommy killer So yeah, that's where that all started. It's when Pamela voorhees was talking to herself in Jason's voice saying killer mommy killer. Pretty cool. All right. So anyway, Mrs Voorhees and the final girl they get into a big brawl they start fighting each other and Mrs Voorhees She is slapping this chick across the face over and over and over again and I think that's honestly kind of dumb because. Mrs Voorhis spent the entire movie slashing all of these teenagers throats with a knife and putting spear through Kevin Bacon and Now, she's resorting to slapping this girl across the face anyway The the fight goes on for pretty long time but then finally alice gets the upper hand on Mrs voorhees grabs a machete and chops her head clean off Mrs Voorhis had gets chopped right off another really good special effects by Tom Savini So yeah that is that's the end right everything's Hunky dory everybody's safe and sound but yeah, alice goes out for some reason she. She takes captive in a canoe. She just jumps in this boat in just like paddles out into the middle of the lake for whatever reason I have. No idea why it's been a long time I probably should've rewatch this movie. Before I did the. Just to refresh my memory but I watched it a couple of months ago. So I think okay but anyway, yeah, she the movie. Seems like it's coming to an end and. She's just out. On this boat in the middle of the lake, and then the sun starts to come up. It must have lasted all night. This battle must have lasted the entire night the sun starts to come up, and then the cops show up. So this is definitely the end of the movie. Of course, the music is very soft and it's really pretty and then all of a sudden. Little Jason Voorhees. POPs out of the water and pulls Alice into the lake. In okay first time I saw this, it was not edited on TV the they showed the scene and it. was horrifying. It is the scariest seen. In it's probably one of the scariest scenes in any movie that I've ever seen up. Until this point, this movie was not scary. It was just fun. It was just a fun slasher movie, but this scene at the very end. Horrifying and so effective because. Everybody in their mom thinks that thought that the movie was over? And that's exactly what they wanted you to think and they did it very. Very well, it was very effective. This is not a really big fan of jump scarce, but this is one that was really really well done. It's probably the best jump scare of all time. So good man. So Yeah Jason polls her into the lake and then all of a sudden. The final girl wakes up in Freakin hospital and she's like wait what happened? Where's the boy in the cops are like, what are you talking about? What boy the Boy Jason And then the cops like I don't know what you're talking about young lady but there was no boy out there in the lake with you. And she's like. He must be still out there. Done done down and that's pretty much how the movie ends and honestly I think they should have ended the movie right when Jason pulled her into the lake why don't they end the movie right there but I think the reason why they added that extra scene at the end is just so they could create a sequel. You it kind of 'cause that ending scene with her in the hospital that pretty much sets it up for another one. So I can pretty much imagine that's the reason why. So there you have it guys that is Friday the thirteenth. Now. Let's talk about a few a few minor things that I also have about the movie Let's talk about the music I have I have four Friday the thirteenth movies on soundtrack on Vinyl put out by waxwork records. I love the Cliche slasher music. That was made for all of these movies. A lot of the music sounds exactly the same. They change.
The Promise and Forgotten Journey by Silvina Ocampo
"Of the joys on the path of a reader is seeing a name that you see for years and years. Who is this person as we know today? This person who we hear of and don't know is likely to be a woman who's been neglected. This woman Safina. Oh compo was considered to be one of the great unknowns of South American Literature. She worked with or who we spore his when he was putting together his collection of fantastic literature working on that anthology as well was her husband. Cassavetes who wrote a book that Voorhis praised very highly the invention of Morrell. I read born face and Casado race as a young man but until recently I had never read much to my discredit savina Ocampo. Now I can say in my defense. The two of her books a novel and a book of Stories have just been translated and published by city. Lights press many people know city. Lights Bookstore do you also know that froing getty has oppress attached to that bookstore? Yes there is a press and they have published Safina Compost Forgotten Journey which is a book of short stories. But if I am not giving away too much the forgotten journey is the journey out of the womb into the world. This is a journey. None of US succeed in remembering completely. He did not remember it or face. He saw that. Silvino aqap ball had the gift he said of clairvoyance and so now. We have to thrilling books. Forgotten Journey a book of her short stories and I mean the longest is six pages and then a novel called the promise and we say an awful because it is probably the longest thing she wrote. But it's fairly a hundred pages. I have three translators here who have been working on Silvino compo and they are just some of the translators who are working on Silvino Compo. Because she's about to be the discovery that we have all been waiting for. It's very exciting. And one of these translators is the marvelous Suzanne Joe Levin who goes by the name June. Wien many of you will know as soon as I tell you that. She has translated. Cabrera Infanta. Julio Cortazar Carlos Fuentes Man will tweak Severo Saad we hand Buick Assad Race. And she's translated a great deal of poetry more than forty book on translations she is the dean of Spanish South American literature and translation with her are to people who've been her students and who worked with her on each of these two books. Jill how did you come to know? Savina OCAMPO's work well I came to know Selena. Compost work Because I had the good taste and look to make amazing Literary critic when I was very young New York name a mirror years ago and he with him I was down in Argentina and Together we went to the House of Combo They were married. They were married and so I met them for the first time but of course I had already heard of them because I studied Latin American literature in college and And I was at graduate school that time so but getting to meet. These people was like so exciting. You know it's sort of like meeting Gods When you're a student you're studying. These people like absolutely amazing. Did you also meet for his? At that time. I actually met him the year before because he was brought to yell to give a lecture and evolve bone. Was there also Savino Campbell about whom we're speaking being cassavetes and all who were triumvirate of sorts? Once they married for fifty years he continued to be their dinner guest and You know he as I said. He said of her that she was clairvoyant. She didn't take many photographs. She did not like to be photographed when you see a picture of Safina or Campo. It's not unusual for hands to be crossed in front of her face and if fast if she were going to this or that party she would sing with this ugly face. Jessica Powell use started to read Cedar Fina under the direction of Jill Levine. Yes I was first introduced to Selena's work many years ago in a translation seminar that I took with Jill when I was a graduate student at UC Santa Barbara and after that class ended Jilin. I decided to collaborate on a novella which was actually the only work that Silvino Compo and her husband Blake Assad wrote together and so it was lower haight which is fantastic and we co translated it. And after that Jill and I started talking about you know Oh wouldn't it be wonderful to translate more of Selena's works and so then in Katie a? New Young came on the scene and she's completing her doctorate and her dissertation is in part on Compo Katie's Latif John worked on the translation of forgotton journey. A book of short pieces. There has been also. I don't want to confuse anyone a book of poetry from the New York review books as well as another book covering the entire spectrum of So Vena or Campos pros. I've found my own beginning point. Were these two thrilling little books. Let's here who would like to read a section of Savino Compo? Who'd like to go start with the first black? I can read a section of the Olive Green Dress. The first paragraph from journey forgotten journey. The very first book of Savino Gone Full. Let's hear the first paragraph of the Olive Green dress the olive green dress. The display windows stepped forward to greet her. The only reason she had left the House that morning was to go shopping. Miss Hilton blushed easily her skin translucent as a waxed paper like those packages who's wrappings reveal. All that's inside but beneath such transparencies where the thinnest layers of mystery behind the branching veins growing a little tree over the surface. She was ageless unjust when one noticed the deepest wrinkles on her face or her long white braids. It was possible to catch an unexpected glimpse of her youth in some childlike gesture. Other times she seemed to have the smooth skin of a young girl and light blonde hair precisely at the moment when she looked as if old age had caught up with her. The first paragraph of a very short story called the Olive Green Dress as I read. The stories seem to escape from me as I moved forward in them. There's a strange quality of presence and absence coal joint as she writes. It's quite extraordinary and this first paragraph. Because it's so zigzag you know I I saw it begins with a very odd sentence received like awkward. How could display windows stepped forward to greet you of course? That's that's very surrealist element of you. Know which was the time she was writing in but you know she she young as she old. It's like going from a woman's You know perception of herself but you were talking about how she felt about. She looked I mean. I thought this is kind of interesting example now. Above of that of of those issues and so as very twisty this is Jill Levine. Who is perhaps the Guardian Angel of these three translators bringing savina Ocampo's writing into our present
"voorhis" Discussed on The Twilight Zone Podcast
"Life that become a taste so good nutritious enough for adults good tasting up with kids quaco life but for everybody so with all credit to Westbrook van Voorhis it is quite difficult to critique his twilight zone narration? Because let's face it is never going to come out on top after sixty years of those less than tyrod sailing and he's also hampered with an opening wing monologue that is close to the sailing vision. But it's different in some key ways like he says that is a sixth dimension and and he says that it might be called the twilight zone so now after all these years the effect of the is that it's like listening to the someone with a poor memory. China remember the twilight zone hope. Learn the ration- but again that's not really his fault. His style of portents assume there was very much the business as usual all the time for a lot of television shows and as well as this in the opening credits of this alternate twilight zone the race. This three D. like metallic font that is very reminiscent of fifty s flying source of b-movies harnesses instead of the more cereal fund that they ended up using and I think the decision to change. Change things like this really shows. How on the ball? They wear wigs. Several television shows. You go back to the first episodes and you're often surprised that actually things wins all in place. The way they ended up being down the line they'll take a few episodes sometimes whole seasons seasons to figure out what works and they'll quietly retire. What doesn't but with the twilight zone? They've really made these smart choices. Azali to jettison these two things that just don't wack let's face it. The show hits the ground ruin. The first season is filled with classics so to the twilight zone host. Who never was? We still raise a glass. There isn't a person listening to this. Who is in thankful that Rut sailing eventually stepped behind the microphone and then eventually in front of the camera but Westbrook van Voorhis is is at least part of the story the rich tapestry that makes up the twilight zone Exhau-.
"voorhis" Discussed on NutriMedical Report
"Utterly amazing? Because it was ruled by Lauries is called beyond victory. uh-huh yes beyond victory. He was the congressman from Orange County That said no matter who wins the war. The cartelization of Europe is confirmed. And that's exactly what happened. Because he had Prescott Bush reporting Hitler and supporting the Allies and they didn't care they wanted the chaos they he wanted the creation out of chaos. But Jerry Voorhis in your. Ats Right V. O.. R. H. E. S. from Orange County. And and you'll go back and you'll see pictures of Prescott Bush adjusting Richard Nixon's hat as he Annoying him to be the substitute for Democratic Jerry Voorhis Four. He's got pushed. The left he was he was wise to the no reserve. He was pushing Credit Unions and things like that and he finally got tangled. Just by the way I I went to I went in Eh Jerry Voorhis v O or H I s B on veterans. As paperback is currently unavailable on on Amazon. I picked up one for under ten bucks and I think they had a few others Go elsewhere too you can go to Ebay and elsewhere. I'll find one anyway. Continue for his. He'd probably talkable do things right. Well again it was Richard Nixon in nineteen forty eight together with Hubert Humphrey and all the rest of them Voting for a world government. I mean it was a gun gresh resolution so those people that think Nixon it was hard core. Or even you know The guy got thrown into jail. I can't think of his name right now. Used.
"voorhis" Discussed on NutriMedical Report
"It. I thumbed through the chapter headings. They claim that the world war two was <hes> milk an extra three and a half years in and it could have been closed and we also have <hes> jerry voorhis. He's who prescott bush replaced with nixon saying in one thousand nine hundred forty two or three while hitler was still winning. He says no matter who wins <hes>. There's going to be the cartelization of europe which means european union and the monopoly was funded by the sad especially division c._i._a. C._a._a. and the globalist organizations bill burgers this the council on foreign relations etc. The united nations was just as reincarnation of british imperial power and a colonel ization of europe all part of the plan and that's why when even allowed the fall of the soviet union wall and east germany to join germany they say well we can do it but you're going to be the banker to supply the money to all these socialist countries are going to go bankrupt like grease. Grease went bankrupt four or five years ago by supporting socialists program for example. You're certain the names of the fifty or fifty five. You can be chunk of money to just retire in other words. They're social programs bankrupted these countries on purpose and they forced germany to beat the banker her which is why the bundesbank in germany and the german things in depth our eyeballs now because socialist countries can't repay them and people'll. We'll get no in fact everything you said right there. There is on page two. I can send you <hes>. I'll send you copies of this newsletter from sutton <hes> <hes> it's it's nice large print and he's got a diagram on here and here's here's where he's discovering the you know. The fourth secret societies are working <hes> together in life after yale it also appears as mysterious success has a simple explanation three senior societies meshed in a.
"voorhis" Discussed on Theology Gals
"I didn't like history. As a matter of fact, I, I didn't take a history class straight history class in college by tire undergraduate college. A degree. I had to take to history classes, I took them online as as tests like pass because I, I hated history so much high school because I have teachers when I didn't know is, as I was doing my theology degree. I was getting church history. And that was that was getting really excited because it wasn't just so moved here than moved here inside this. It was people living dying, and their devotion allies in their illogical lives. I found fascinating and only then realized after the fact. Oh, that's what good history is. Good histories biography, and it could be biography of one percenter, five people or group of people, but it's dealing with people who are just like us and asking questions that might be just like ours. And, you know, the kind of history that I, I did my, my first historical monograph is, is just based on guys lenders, because I wanted to try to understand this guy who's dealing with theological controversy after the reformation, and in order to understand him. I thought you know, we've done these letters, why don't I don't why want don't to we? translate them in to see your out who he was person. So if we think of history as is very personal thing, then it's not just what, what used to tell the students words chaps maps and just going, where win. But, but it's, it's, it's interesting as as, as any kind of family history might do and there's much more of it. So it some I understand why people don't like history. I was running away for it running away from it for some time in making my life in it. So I had to change of heart. I'm glad to brought up letters that something in the last couple of years that I've really enjoyed is reading the letters of some of these people in churches straight, even Calvin and Luther and all all kinds of people, you really see something very different when you read the letters. But I'm kind of wondering if there's any books that you would recommend 'cause I'm sure a gals in our group are thinking about now. Oh, okay. So when it comes to books, there are so many good books. I throw it a couple when it comes to the. When it comes to Calvin, I think the best book on Calvin is recent book called Calvin by Bruce, Gordon and what Bruce Gordon dozen Callen book is works through Callans letters. And that was his primary source and some more than than those other Calvin works. This is a book that deals with his theology, but also who he was pastor, and who he was Hurson. So I think that's really interesting history on that level. That's a little bit high level when it comes to just sort of, you know, a good church history. There's a book by getting dear McCullough in a C. C. U L, L H in it's called Christianity. I three thousand years, so you gotta do the math on that to see what he's doing. And while it's a big book, I have had for a long time as just gonna read about. The Puritans I'm going to read about the ninth century zone so of the Carthusian 's, and I just pick it up read a little section, and it's so eminently readable. I think that's a great a great text. So those are a big book on Helvin book on church history. On new, sir. There's a book that came out drained Luther which is going to give you a really good insight into Luther the person, and what these guys were thinking, devout devout, men and women, but also people who were trying to figure out how the reformation work. And so this by enter pedigree goes into kind of the beliefs, but also the everyday life of the reform. So those are three Gordon Michalak and pedigree. And we can this down in late. In the episodes. I'm glad you rapid Luther one because you said the Calvin the other one, and I have a, a Lutheran friend that listens faithfully to the podcast in baptized. Elsia Massey's in sixties now. And I know he's always reading every Luther rooke out there shortage of looser books. Point one more thing I mentioned, the academy something fun. When it comes to church history and doctrine, I did a podcast, it's actually a seasonal podcast and our first season, dropped cannot last year. And it's called soul of Christianity. And it's a twelve part study on the apostles, creed. Great, each episode goes into one of the parts of Crete. And I the host is actually a friend of mine, Debbie win rich. And she was complaining that too, many of the podcast, fifteen seventeen to condemn. So I challenged her and said, I want you, then to interview smart people and having bring it down to your love. And so I did with her, and we have twelve episodes. We've got people like Mike Horton. Jared Wilson Dave's all really fun group of people Rosen lot, each each doing one part of the creed look at it historically, but then also what it means for us as believers today. So Sola Christianity, everything idea is seventeen Orne? So if someone just goes clicks around, they're, they're, they're likely to find something. Yeah. And we're having we've had so many people from fifteen seventeen on were doing two in the month of June. We've had a lot of controversy in may sweet. Will I was going? I was gonna say, I got a couple of hot takes on mops if you want them, but. Now, this is no controversy June. Well my Twitter. My Twitter's hot boy. ES. We love, you know, I want people to have just a taste of your front cast, and I'm gonna keep bugging the gals migrant because I I've been enjoying it so much. Now I have to be honest. I listen on Sunday, afternoons, I listened to the whole week, run sitting and, you know, everyone's different. But I was telling some gals, I said, this is a great thing to listen to in the car with your kids like at will. Open. My kids were younger because there's I learn something every single episode, but I think my favorite so far was last Friday. So it was the second to last Friday may at I can leak it neponset notes. When you talked about the John Wesley okay that's gonna sound funny, coming from reform CHAI. But there there's a reason why could you tell that story that you told about John Wesley one thing you might find if, if you look at Methodist churches across the country, oftentimes, you see the word Alder skate, and it'll be called Alder Methodist Alder skate, something older scape was the church that John Wesley went tubes down the street from where he lived with his brother and his brother had a conversion experience. And while John was raised in the church is in church work really was kind of not feeling to, to use a modern, you know way of speaking, and he ended up going with his brother to a worship service at this older almost gate church, where the pastor that night decided to read from the forward. Martin Luther forward to the epistle to the Romans, and as Luther is, as pastors reading Luther Wesley recounts this experience. He had. Of essentially having that, that. Rebirth experience that Luther had back in the sixteenth century Wesley hands as he's listening to Luther, and he credits that as sending him off on, you know, while we don't all we don't agree with Yala junior of Wesley necessarily Methodist. One of the most remarkable movements in Protestant Christianity cross history that went onto a fact, the Lutheran church the reformed church. So many churches in America, and it's just getting started because someone was doing a bit of church history, and someone was reading a bit. And so on that show from that Friday, I tell that story and then the reading that day rather than a poem. I take the reading that was read to as Lee and I do that reading at the end. So this some thought it was, I had to I've actually listen, listen to twice. I went to a Wesleyan a small, very conservative Wesley bible college, which is where began my. Cerny entry form theology and drove, my professors crazy. So I, I really, I really liked that story. I don't know. I know that I've heard sitting on a rods act Dak that west that John Wesley said something like the Lutherans are strong on the gospel in week on sanctification. That was his twenty six Gatien was his exact line, which then became a child wind for some rowdy Lutherans for while, but the point taken. My cat week on saints location. We put it in a different category. And well you must know goes leads. Yes, we're maybe get that accusation sometimes to fan. We've really enjoyed having you on. I haven't looked you on again. Sometime any questions about church history on I lived on cast, and I'd love to be on. Well, we talked for a few minutes about your most recent podcast, but I'm not sure we mentioned the name, tell us what the name of her most. Recent podcast is. Yes, it is the Christian history almanac, and you're gonna fifteen seventeen org forward slash almanac or wherever you get guests, the Christian history almanac seven days a week, three hundred sixty five days a year. I think we've got at least three years in us, so. In it's, it's a five minute podcast for our listeners three to four women's music and reading with you. Yeah. I think for any of our homeschool moms out there would be a great tool for that, because it's caused me to a listen. And then I'm like, okay, I wanna know more and I'll look stuff up. So. Snooping my spreadsheet for this first month of the show out where I've got every day listed in. And I was just looking at it today thinking my goodness. We up we covered a lot of territory in one month. So it's just little little glimpses. But hopefully start can conversations in some questions. Well, I'm going to recommend to our audience. It is a great place to start if you're new church history because you, you kinda go around and hit different time periods to. That was the one of the criticisms of lutron is that we live in the sixteenth, century. Well, Lutherans end were fans. We do love the sixteenth century. That's not where our trip started every week, we claim that the whole Trajan history as our own. So I tried to get around as much as I can. Well, we've really enjoyed having you on Dan and will hope to have you on, again sometime so to our to our audience, thanks for joining us, and we'll be back next week..
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"And chattered 's Old Testament class. It's, it's really amazing. I'm glad you brought that up because I actually have seen that going around and you one recently to, yes, yes. Are you once upon a time I was a college professor? That was my, my little John. And when I left to come work for fifteen seventeen really just produce resources for churches in for bible studies end for podcasts, I, I was able to start this academy with withheld from bunch of people, and it's the idea of getting education, Christian education for free. And whether can be used in church through bible. Studies were finding their seminaries in Africa. India, they're using classes. It's, it's really encouraging. So we've got robberies and lot teaching relations, Adam Francisco's apologetic jumped now doing philosophy. I have a class on reformation, and Chan Bernau Christ in the Old Testament, they're all they're all free and really high quality which is another. Thing. I really, really enjoy. I just I just want to highly recommend those and. I had signed up for your reformation one and they are just so well done. I can't even believe they're free because they're this amazing and go and look at the list, we'll link that in episode. So I know it's a little bit of a distraction for what we're talking about. But this is what you can learn even more. Yeah. One of the questions that, that we got that in. I don't I know a little bit for my research, but I'm curious well about whether or not Calvin Luther paid each other much attention. And I know Krav and kinda came a little later so that. Yeah. Tell them little bit later. And by the time that he's on the scene. We have very little evidence of Luther knowing much about them Luther was. In Nevada through lengthened, and that's really the connection Philip millennials Luther right hand man teaches at the university in town. He's a theologian his own rights little bit younger than Luther, and he has a lot of connection with Calvin. And so he becomes the go between. So in the few years that Calvin is active and that losers alive. Luther will hear of him through Milan thing, and we don't really get enough in those extent letters to know what they thought you know what, what needs thought of Calvin in any substantive way. But we know that Milan was doing everything he could trying take the geology of Calvin and make jive with movers theology and it led to decades decades of, of controversy in Germany, it led to, you know me being exiled intellectually at least it led to know. Confession of faith having to be altered on altered. And it's been a funny relationship. Never since the kind of Calvin Luther relationship mirrored, not exactly how, how it is in the United States where if you've got Lutheran friends, or if you Lutheran form friends, it's kind of, like, you know were were. Were were on the same team. But sometimes those people that are closest to you on the people that you kind of turn on hardest. You know, because they're so close to you. So it's, you know, let's let's say were were the avengers. And, you know, sometimes we fight against each other usually were were together, and curious. Would you say that, okay, I'm just thinking about the United States that the Lutheran and reformed folks in the US are closer now or further apart now than say, Luther and Calvin during the reformation time? That's, that's a very good question. Let me see what evidence would I need to make claim to that. You know, in terms of. Yes, in sixteenth century, people were killing each other because of slight differences in their confession of faith people. You know, in this leads up to thirty years war. The issue of confessional is Asian rate, fifteen hundreds, there was a kind of, of world that we just can't understand Mars. That was so brutal that today even the angriest online screens between a Lieutenant Calvin est, you know, no one's being killed. So it it's different in that sense. You know, I would say that the errors in the Roman church when the major problem in the church was Rome, saying you have to do good works to be saved Lutherans in Calvin. You know, can can go voltron together and fight against it. It's when there isn't a common enemy that we tend to turn on each other I would say American evangelicalism is I don't wanna say enemy because he's heart brothers and sisters in Christ as an entity in is a problematic entity. And so, I think. Why we're finding going back to the days of the white horse and Horton, and Rosenblatt together and up through this new fifteen seventeen world what you guys are doing and the reformed Twitter and like. You know, I think because we have kind of quote unquote adversary relations are, are pretty good. I just saw discussion in one of these Facebook groups that's reformed Lutheran discussions and reference to the situation between Lutherans twinkly, and how that ended and maybe you could talk about that. And then they said, so Lutherans really shouldn't be okay with reformed going back to what happened. So Zigli is not hundred singly is older than Calvin. He is the Swiss reformer, and he Luther, you know, at first they have to common humanist background and they get together and decide. Hey, we're gonna let's colloquy and they're gonna kinda work together. A and put the other confessional faith worked for both Swiss and the Germans and came down to the issue of what happens in the Lord's supper, and, you know, it's, it's no longer the issue of transit stantione, which is what was happening with the Catholic church, rather. It was an issue. What was present? Spiracy present physically present. Same argument that Lutherans calendar slap today. But Luther famously told me that if Zuma holds to that position than it is not physical body and blood that perhaps, we are of different spirit interpreted as Luther. Anathematise ING zinc way and saying, we're no longer brothers in, in the faith. The first thing is, I don't think loser mentioned that way he was known for explosions were talking big on. But we know from the corpus of his work that he did not believe someone was no longer a Christian, because they hold to one particular view, that didn't have to do with how one since ever gonna so I, I don't think even said there was as critical as it's been made out to be. Secondly, Lutherans needs to be reminded over and over and over and over, and it's not Luther that newsrooms are having allegiance to at least historically institutionally. It's the Lutheran confessions. And while the Lutheran fashions have some harsh things to say about people who hold different use them sacraments, nothing to the extent that what is purported to believe or said to Zigli in saying, we're not? We can't do anything together are Lutherans who are going to take a very hard stance on this. But historically there. They're, they're in the minority, you know, thinking about how you just brought up, you know, Luther colorful language and, you know, being known for sometimes having blowups, and it just kind of reminded me about how much I enjoy Luther because his he's interesting as a character, and three raw and real, and it kind of made me think about just. How reading history is like that. I wonder if you could just speak a little about sometimes folks, I think, think history is boring or dry. What would you say to that.
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"Find really really important. You know we're talking about what is what are some turning points. Besides the reformation. I'm just thinking right now, about the reformation, and we all Lutherans and reformed as sort of reformation, Christians that came out of that we recognize that as a very significant turning point for the church. I am curious what you would say. I've heard this statement before, and I'm curious how you would answer this. What would you say to someone who says, I wish the reformation had never happened, because it split the church, I would say to that the first thing I would say a man, I wish the church never split the that it was tragic the reformation in someone's would lead to bloodshed it led to absolute tragedy and schism that were still living. In today. And so, yes, if we could have not done that, that would have been great as a matter of fact, most of the reformers, the early reformers didn't want to split the church. They wanted to try and reform the church from within and it's Luther whose excommunicated in its Calvin chase on Paris that, that are forced to saying, well, we can't worship in our, our mother church. If our mother church won't recognize the authority of the gospel of scripture, we're gonna have to do it differently. And so it was truth Cecil split. And so, I think what we wanna do is on, uphold, long, the tragedy of what happened, but also in the city of standing up for truth and not just any truth. The particular truths that the church has fought for from the pages, the New Testament to the present day questions about who's Jesus. How are we saved? Why does the bible four Canaan know when these questions are being played with sometimes to stand up for truth, there's gonna be some, some fortunate schism? And, and that's how I would I would answer that is unfortunate, but necessary. Now, one of the questions we actually get a several times in the group when I, I asked in the group do to talk about this with something, a few people had said, I think we know about the reformation, or let me switch that around. We know about Luther and then later Calvin, but there were people that were taking issue with the Catholic church prior to the reformation. Also, actually, you know, we highlight the reformation largely because I mean, the, the magnitude of what happened and because of the direct line between our churches was Calvin Luther, but it's not as if the church was some monolithic thing, where everyone believed the same thing until surrounding folks in fifteen hundred thirty making trouble there has been a schism and, and adversity in diversity in the church since the beginning, end, Jesus warns about this poll himself. Writes about these kinds of controversies that we're gonna see from the pages. The news. Testament on all the way to the present day when it comes to Lutheran Calvin, they were really following on the heels of Guinan, yon, Huss, H, U S, who was involved Bahia, which is the Czech Republic today, and he was actually burned state in fourteen fifteen hundred years before Luther, and he was part of a whole network of medieval dissidence, if, if the historical situation would have been different, the reformation could have gone through hus- Bohemia. It could have gone through it, you know, the Middle East or through all sorts of places. It just happens to be that, as you know, in the fullness of time things will kind of playing out. The movement that started really with, with Luther and then spread out the rest of Europe, a lot things going for it, such that it happened. They are not your right to say the first ones to complain. You know, you just mentioned hus- being burned at the stake. And I know that, that a lot of believers during the reformation and other time periods have suffered greatly and been martyred for their faith. I wonder if you feel like that studying church history can kind of connect us, especially as Americans who you know, we have the freedom to worship as we choose in this country. So, I think sometimes, maybe we get a little disconnected from persecution in what that's like, do you feel like studying church history kind of pulls us back into that. And can make a see the gravity and the seriousness of what our faith is about to answer that one of the things to bring up about why history is important or helpful from the first question that I didn't answer any bring up is that history is in many ways in the way we come across history is as a. Literary form. Right. We, we read history books. We watch movies based on history documentaries, and so it's literary art form. And one of the things that, that people have them recognised about literary art forms is that when you are able to determine something into a story it helps us humans to empathize. It helps us humans to realize, you know, more, what it's like to live outside of our own bodies much like travel. Does that physically through good? Literature. We do this through time and space where travel and through that gain empathy of different peoples. And so, yes for, for people stuck way over here on this continent. With with poor historical education's. More we can read about this, yet it gonna we're going realize that, you know, every time some sung on their whatever says that we're waiting persecuting American. Well, let's, let's talk about. The, the martyrs of the first and second sixteenth eighteenth century. It's, it's, it's amazing. So if nothing else it's the history literary experience wherein were learning and developing in blue for others. And another question that came up a lot when we asked in the group is. And I note, this could be just a whole episode on its own. But could you talk just briefly about how we decided on our canon? So, you know, as you mentioned earlier, the restoration, which kind of, I think the nice way putting you know, we sixteenth century, you know, folk today in the league twin reform traditions. We are the solar script to our people. So we say you know, it's not the pope, it's not tradition. It's scripture, and so one of the most effective arguments against position is descended will that's fine that your soul this tour, but hasn't your script tour of change to good bit over years. And, and that's that's a you know, an argument that that goes back to release controversies in the church with a gun Martian. M A, our CIO N and the controversy over Watson, the bible in what's not in the bible. And this is where you take, I think historical approach and you say what has been affirmed by the saints, what has been handed down to. Us. What do we know is without controversy in and points to Christ in is the, the great cloud, witnesses said, absolutely. And maybe not to on, when you do that, you start to realize that the, the bible that we have today, although there are going to be some differences, even between safe. You look at Catholic friends bible the Apocrypha they're gonna have the Old Testament Avia different. Different orders the books in the different order. The differences are so minute, that it, I think we really can't have confidence in saying, you know, since the third century, we've had a pretty stable, cannon and. There's no magical. No. Magic to it in a way because it is just okay. Howard, the couple, I was churched aside. But of course, we know that the Dodd leads the church with his Holy Spirit. But he uses Maine's I think he uses historical study as a means. And I think that's how we get to understanding what our cannon looks like. Right. It's, it's really helpful to me to think about. That it would be very implausible to believe that God would leave the church, you know, without the means of the scripture for some period of time whenever you've got folks saying that they've recovered a oh, here's this biblical text. Like, for example, Mormons and other kinds of colts do this as well. If we think about okay, but the historical church at the ages didn't have that those writings and would would the Lord have left the church without these very different doctrines for all of this time. What about those other believers throughout time? And I think we can trust that he does uphold the church and he does uphold us by giving us. His word is a Greek a great word that I remember my reformed friends using a lot that could win you spelling beats per security, and the idea that when an intelligent dog Scott this that when, when God talks to us, he's clear, so clear that we understand every little last bit. But it means he's a God who communicates in word to us, and you don't have to be PHD's. We don't have to be, you know, an actor date with the latest software update. God wants to talk to us, and he's clear about, and so we can set. Yeah. You're right. Luther didn't like the book of James and yet tobe it might belong or not belong ultimately the message of scripture with even these variations from the beginning to the end is near clear. And I think that's a great a great thing that, that the reformers it on. Right. And we don't need us. Secret Dakota pin, don't you know, there's not secret knowledge that we going back to that Nostitz again. There's not secret knowledge that we have to go through all these special methods to achieve it. It's right there in the word of God for us to read in. It's clear. I mean really when we will we talked about, if we go back to that, first question recent what would've been heresies are, what are the controversies in the canon is a controversy surrounds Martian, and then awesome. Of course in those of the two big the two big. Things that the third one that kind of brings in the ancient church reformation is the heresy of Donald his and Donna's them just a quick story. It has to do you know during the persecution of Christians under dyke lesion a number of priests head for the hills and they say were out, we wanna be versa cupid, and once that belonged assigned end Christianity is not tolerated. These priests band, and the big controversy over whether or not the baptisms that these priests who ran away whether or not they were valid. Might seem like a weird arcane discussion. But the question came down to is baptism is are the sacraments? Are they based on the worthiness of the priests, or the worthiness of the ultimate host God and in Christ? And in what place is there a place where the forgiveness of sins stops working, because that's a sensually. What was being on that? These men ran away, therefore they gave up the birthright until now every laid it wasn't wasn't right. And this leads to the forgiveness ascends being added to the apostles, creed as very important line. And then as we followed up to sixteenth century this becomes issue of, how do I know my sins forgiven? And, and once again, it's the Donald Justitia so nostrum or Shen is Donna, Tatum new. These are the big three. See you gave a brief discussion of Nostra sim in Donna's. I'm just for our listeners who don't know what Martian ISM is. Can you tell us just a little bit about that? Yes, good. I always I always liked it. When I was in college professor, when there was some paying attention. You said, wait a second. You didn't tell me you say that. Thank you. Artian ISM M, A, R, CIO s m is based on a gentleman. Marshon who really was at a, nobody's twenty words here. But he was Kevin dualist. He thought that there was a bad God and a good God. And everything was kind of this battle playing out between the good God. And the bad God. And the bad God, you see the Old Testament, the good, God, you see the testament, and therefore, Martian said now the crisis point we do not reveal Desmond at all. And as a matter of fact, Hughley wanted book of Luke Acts and few of Paul's letters, and that was his whole canon was just that because he had this radical view of, you know, a angry evil God good. God. And it's, it's that sounds kind of, you know, like an old fashioned Zoro aspirin, kind of thing, but you don't wanna talk to students when I talk to students about this when I talked to searches it something, I think a lot more people, secretly think than they want to Innis, especially what we run away from the Old Testament, or, you know, we, we can't seem to find the gracious garden. We Old Testament because we're fixated on, on some other things..
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"Jellicoe church today with a scripture is concerned, there's nothing errands of the bible. The great problem even Jellicoe church today is the sufficiency of scripture. We don't think it's sufficient, the do what we have to do. So we have to wake up, what's happening, and recognize that the problem really is our lack of theology. Welcome to the gals. I'm choline sharp. And my co host is Angela white horn. And today, we have Dan Bank wars on with us. And if you're in the group you've probably seen reshare dance new podcast I in history almanac. It's a great podcast. I'm early enjoying just started it on may first and he has every single day, seven days a week. And they're no more than five minutes in does a piece of church history in a preliminary, a hammer, some sort of reading with it, and amend some people might know him from virtue in the wasteland podcast, which he did. How many years did you do that, Dan? That was far gonna half years. We did three hundred twenty six consecutive episodes. Wow. Wow. So we're, we're really excited have mon- because so many people have said in nucleus, talk about church Istorii then with you having this new podcast. Coming out were just excited to have you with us. So I guess just for starters. Some people don't understand. Why church history is important for us to study. Could you talk a little bit about that? Why it is important. Yeah. Absolutely. You know, the first thing is that the Christian faith is inherently historical so of all of the different world religions, we have a face that more than any other is attached to history. Right. If you think of the beginning genealogies in the gospels are certainly the Old Testament with Paul sang this didn't happen in a corn source eighth is tied to history in a way that it's not in other fakes. And so we know that, especially in that first century, there's something to be learned by digging into the text in history because we know that's the way that God has chosen to talk to us. I think once we get outside of that first century, it becomes in some ways. It's it's our story. It's our family story. It's our DNA. It's family tree. And just as we might want to know about our, you know, our family last names or where we come from her do twenty three in me or ancestry dot com. History. Church history is a way of kind of figuring out in answering the question. Who are we by looking our collective past? So I think those are the two reasons one it's it's kind of ordained by scripture, so to history into it gives us an introduction to, to who we are in. It helps us understand ourselves of little better. What do you think about? I'm just kind of jumping off from that. I kind of grew up in a just a general even jealou- coal church environment and studying church history is brand new to me at well, not anymore. But when I was reforming, that was sort of my first introduction to my faith being connected to the rest of the church through history. Can you talk a little bit about how studying church history might help individuals? Think through some of their theology. Absolutely. This is we. Scripture talks about the great cloud of witnesses. And this is something that we have access to as Christians, not just the saints in the Old Testament and the New Testament, but also the saints throughout the history of the church on outside of those inspired people. You know, in even even in the fact even wind, people are inspired. We know they're still sinners saints just like we are. And so they, we have this mil- toot of examples of people who have struggled to be faithful to God's call and, and to, to live in relationship with him at the same time understanding of the depth of our sin the reality of our, our redemption. And so one just as an example, too often, when I talk to people who come from inevitable background, they all understand testimonies. Right. And we end Jellicoe understands the string of good testimony. Yeah. And so what if I could give you not just the testimony. The people living now. But the testimonies of people who've lived time in memorial how much could we learn? And, and then to from CS Lewis. It's, it's not that those in the past arsenal smarter or better than us. They just happen to be wrong usually in different ways than us. And so it's just another way. Thanks looking at the past in this cloud of witnesses can be it. You know, I think sometimes devotional experience in my new podcast. That's kind of what I'm going for his is history. But not just on this day blank. But this matters here, here's why this is interesting. Here's what this tells us about about us. Those who share our faith. Yeah, I love that. And I'm just think about how like you said, you know, if my testimony is important. What if I could connect two thousands of other testimonies, it kind of I feel like learning some things about church history really helped? Obliterate that extremely individualistic attitude in me and kind of made me start seeing myself as a part of, you know, the greater church in a different way. -solutely I mean just from a purely Stoorikhel perspective, if you think of everybody who's alive right now, right? Everyone on the plan. Our made billion people for everyone person to live right now, there have been if teen people who have lived in our did one to fifteen and so it, it can really blow your mind when you think about how big history is, and how many people have come, and while that can be frightening in a way that, like understanding how small the earth is compared to other planets in the solar system is frightening at the same time, it, it reminds us that it's that we're not it's not just us. We're not alone there, other people who have done this, and as much as we. Modern Americans loved to make everything about us. There is a great way in which history takes the focus off of us. And, you know, Americans modern erica's, we can always always use that, that experience. Why don't we give our listeners just a taste and talk about some of the controversies from the early church? Yeah. I mean this is oftentimes when I start in churches three I started any class and where where should we start? I find that the earliest controversies in the church are the best places to start because they tell us where the church went wrong first or wear those major controversial points were. And so as we trace the controversies we can kind of start to see how human nature response to good. Kristen geology, whether human nature's wants to over emphasize. Is the humanity of Christ or overemphasize the divinity of Christ or overemphasize, the role of, of works? And so all these controversies, I think are really important, the easiest way to look at these controversies, I think, is to go to those creeds that so many churches say, you know, on Sunday mornings tonight, apostles creed than I seen creed and ankle Asian crew. And if you go through those creeds, and if you think through your mind, or you look at them later, on everything in those creeds is a response to controversy. So everything in those creeds, if we stop. And we ruminate on look at them we, we have a good study on them. It actually not only is something we do to confess our faith together, but it also gets us into some of these controversies, as I mentioned. I think some of the main controversies are those involving the person of Christ is why in the creed so often we Satan's like very God. Very, God very man very man very particular about that. Because those were the earliest entreprise we've talked about the ways that some of those old heresies have been repackaged in put out now today. Like I don't know if you followed the controversial the journal support nation of the sun controversy. Yes. Absolutely. That was the fascinating fascinating. And then we've also talked about federal vision, and I think this is such an important reason why we need to not because he same heresies just come up again, just repackage it can you think any other examples? That heresies kind of comeback up throughout church history. Absolutely. You know, the, the first one that always comes to is, is NAS, Tim decide the flesh is inherently bad. And it's one of the things that the early creeds are really fighting against and something that some that really trips phones like Gusta really struggled with. And while it's not the same kind of NAS decision today than it was saying the second or third century. We haven't anti material view. We think matter or nature is inherently bad. We think that which just spiritual is inherently better than that which is physical which is a NAS to kerosene. It goes back to the Greeks and enacted yearly church, but we have a lot of, of those entities was one of the first books of theology than I read this is gonna date a little bit. But one of the first books. With the red was Michael Horton's in the face of God. And that was the first time I have picture of like of a heresy in history, but also sort of the all G proper. And in that really I think, is a great job kind of explaining NAS decision of today. I highly died, he's one of the major Harris that we're seeing a resurgence of, you know, it's interesting that you bring up Nostra schism because I feel like choline, and I see that a lot as well as we do some discernment. Sometimes we read very popular books that are out there in the evangelical world. And I feel like that's one that I, I see over and over, I remember listening to a podcast about a year ago, where a professor who I believe teaches at a Lutheran seminary was talking about the new students coming in, and they give a quiz. And every year. So many new students say, on this quiz that they don't believe in a bodily resurrection for us, and it's not because they are actively intending to believe a heresy. It's just because they've never been taught that for us. The resurrection is bodily not just our spirit. And they don't realize, hey, this is a form of Nostitz. Amazing. And look at how we portray even in church, the afterlife, or heaven, this kind of, like disembodied crosses as up loan Harksen, clouds, but not far from, and I try and teach, you know, and I talked to my kids about it or to teaching churches. It's always it's it's flash. Fleshing whole creation is being renewed. And I think it's so hard for us to Inc like that. But it's it's one of the ways in which we've kind of bought into the spirit of the age says the flesh, the flesh is no good Christians, creed. Pretty radical in. We say, no flesh is actually good. Absolutely. When way that I have heard this in evangelical circles is teaching that sounds like you are spirit, and you have a body or you live in a body. And it has been fairly recently actually that I have come to us. Understand that. That's not really correct. I am a whole man. I I'm spirit end body. It's a whole unit. And that's how the scripture speaks of us. So this decision it's everywhere. You know, I think a lot of our listeners are our new to maybe reform, theology. We actually have a we have a Facebook group with a lot of gals net. Mcnutt Lutheran gals to, but a lot of them are newer to, to theology. And I think a lot of know about the reformation, since that's talked about a lot. But can you talk about some other kind of turning points in church history obsolete, you know you asked about this. We talked a little bit in the pre interview, and so I started writing down notes in my notebook writing down dates thinking, okay. What would be a fun one to bring up? And pretty soon I had three twenty five eight hundred ten fifty four fourteen fifteen fifteen seven sixteen eighteen sixteen forty it just kept going on on. To there, so many things if you're interested in the, the beginnings of the church, you know, I think looking at the creed is a great way of getting into churches, and really seeing where the fate kinda came together, and where we started where we transitioned from the narrative tactic of the New Testament into the credo formula that we have in the modern church. So I think, you know, three twenty five you know, my SIA, you know, after the apostles, creed putting that together. That's the first big moment, I would say after that we talk about the reformation. We talk about this in the church in sixteenth century, but in the eleventh century happened for the first time and that was with the eastern church in western church. So often people ask me, what do eastern, orthodox Chris's women tag? Curses moose Rin Baptist or what have you. And that's a story that goes only that to ten fifty four. And as a matter of fact that the argument at ten fifty four goes back to three twenty five. So those dates I think three twenty five and ten fifty four are fascinating. Now, I, I also would say that as a historian, I love American history and something that's more familiar to me, as I think it is a lot of people. And so it's always fun when you can take the history that, you know, and then start to put church history and history of theology alongside of that. So, you know, what's happening between the world wars in America, in his the fundamentalist modernist controversy where where you all the reformed really took on a heavy burden in. There was a gigantic controversy involve, no Westminster eastern, Princeton seminary in some of the most significant things. True. Today. We're taking place. Right. Ben in nineteen twenty eight nineteen thirty between the wars. So for some ancient ones in recent ones, those are some doesn't exist..
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"The president stays out of it. We will get a deal a good deal that every so that Democrats and Republicans house and Senate can support Republican Representative Kevin McCarthy agrees. We should get this done legislatively, and I'm looking forward to making that happen as the shutdown deadline looms. Hundreds of military personnel are being moved from the Arizona border for a mission in Texas. I'm John Lawrence reporting twenty two till House Democrats are turning up the heat on guns highlights from correspondent Terry Moore. Opening a house hearing, New York Democrat Jerrold Nadler. Said epidemic of gun violence in this country is a national crisis and an international embarrassment. And he argued that congress has been silent for too long Elena Eastman survived. The deadly carnage at Marjory stoneman Douglas high school in parkland, Florida last year, we have had enough of gun violence in our schools in our movie theaters places of worship in nightclubs and restaurants on our streets and in our communities enough. She said all Americans are at risk. Meantime, Georgia Republican Doug Collins said no gun control proposals. That he has seen would have prevented a single mass shooting in the last twenty years, and he warned against good remedies to gun violence. Hey, palliative exercise to say, here's something that will make you feel better. But not help you in the end Cullens argued. There are no simple solutions and insisted the current gun laws need to be enforced. I'm Terry Moore on Capitol Hill. It's twenty one till can DC lawmakers work together reverberations from Trump's speech Tuesday. Still echo. Here's jimbohannon. We have heard the state of the union address, and we have heard the democratic response to now. Of course, it's time for congress to do something just exactly what they will do or can't do. Well, that's for some discussion, which we will hold with Peter van Voorhis psychologist, political strategist contributor to the Washington Examiner. And do you see any possibility for bipartisan action by congress? I absolutely do Jim from what I saw. There were so many proposals that president put up from working to an HIV and aids to childhood cancer to dealing with as you said, the high price of prescription drugs what he needs is to put out proposals where he will get some defection from some Democrats enough to get things through enough where twenty thirty forty Democrats will vote for it. It doesn't you can still have a very small minority the Democrats voting print that you needed to be common sense enough where their constituents will press them to. Compromised in that will give President Trump victory to deliver a victory in two thousand at twenty. Do you think since the president didn't announce any national emergency use that as a basis for five buddy for a border security effort for existing appropriations do expect him to make such an announcement in the near future? I expected it would be highly likely for him to I think that was he's opportunity to speak to the congress and to the American people and explain that he's just trying to get things done at the end of the day. If the congress doesn't want to play ball, they're not gonna play ball. And he's probably going to have to do what he has to do on that it is a national emergency. And you can't say it because it hasn't been dealt with for thirty five years in default. We don't treat it like an issue that therefore it's not a national emergency thought a valid way to look at things in the only argument that the Democrats are making does it bother you that if fact eight a national emergency declaration is used. To help fund border security that let's say a democratic president good come on at some later point and use that as a president to say the fact that we don't all have health insurance coverage will declare that a national emergency and move forward that fraud. Does does the precedent of declaring a national emergency have any for you in any reason to be fearful in my opinion that comparison from border from declaring a national Burgess he four border wall to declaring an emergency healthcare. I think that at least this time is a little bit of a stretch not an impossibility but a little bit of a stretch. I am obviously concerned anytime where the executive branch decides to kind of just do it though thing in this case. This is such a big issue that I think we have to bite the bullet and just do it. But I'm very very glad that he exhausted. And it's continuing to exhaust all other options before that it's imperative that he does that for goodwill and just show that he's just not going in trying. To rule with a pen and a phone like Barack Obama did bullets. Not forget who started that precedents. I gather then that you are of the opinion that we are not necessarily in full bore irrevocable campaign mode straight through till November twenty twenty and that in fact, there are areas in which this congress of this president might produce legislation. No, I think that's a bit number because everything is always a campaign. Boy, it President Trump just went at only costs, but immigration all talked about, you know, rightly issues it's not going to be very beneficial to his campaign. So yeah, he's been president for this whole high may just haven't heard it. So of course, it's a campaign, you know, thing that they're doing. But yes at the same time, they will have the things that they're going to be working on those legislative victories are what results intellect coral victories, President Trump needs. Those would be twenty one day period is over the grace period of the government shutdown. And if there is no deal reached by the the two sides who are are discussing this. Although dot I gather with any great sense of urgency. Is there any way having already caved in the view of many of his supporters on the issue of the shutdown? Is there any way that the president cannot go ahead and and declare a national emergency seems to be that that he's backed into a corner that if he were to. Capitulate again or be perceived as capitulating again that he would lose all credibility with his base. It would not be positive simply because of the fact that it would mean that was. In this case, he could have just said, you know, what before the shutdown Tober fine. I'll find your Bill at the same time. I'm starting to national. Congratulations. I ended a shutdown. He's doing what's for the American people first, and I respect that. Columnist Peter van Voorhis you can see his work in the Washington Examiner..
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"Out of it. We will get a deal. Good deal that every so that Democrats and Republicans house and Senate Kim support Republican Representative Kevin McCarthy agrees. We should get this done legislatively, and I'm looking forward to making that happen as the shutdown deadline looms. Hundreds of military personnel are being moved from the Arizona border for a mission in Texas. I'm John Lawrence reporting twenty two till House Democrats are turning up the heat on guns highlights from correspondent Terry Moore. Opening a house hearing New York. Democrat Jerrold Nadler said epidemic of gun violence in this country is a national crisis and an international embarrassment. Anti argued that congress has been silent for too long Elena Eastman survived. The deadly carnage at Marjory stoneman Douglas high school in parkland, Florida last year, we have had enough of gun violence in our schools in our movie theaters are places of worship in nightclubs restaurants are streets and in our communities enough. She said all Americans are at risk. Meantime, Georgia Republican Doug Collins said no gun control proposals. That he has seen would have prevented a single mass shooting in the last twenty years, and he warned against feel good remedies to gun violence palliative exercise to say, here's something that will make you feel better. But not help you in the end Collins argued there are no simple solutions and insisted the current gun laws need to be enforced. I'm Terry Moore on Capitol Hill. It's twenty one till can DC lawmakers worked together reverberations from Trump. Speech Tuesday, still echo. Here's jimbohannon. We have heard the state of the union address, and we have heard the democratic response. So now, of course, it's time for congress to do something just exactly what they will do or can't do. Well, that's up for some discussion, which we will hold with Peter van Voorhis columnists political strategist contributor to the Washington Examiner. And do you see any possibility for bipartisan action by congress? I absolutely do Jim from what I saw. There were so many comments has proposals. The president put out from working to an HIV and aids to childhood cancer to dealing with as you said, the high price of prescription drugs what he needs is to put out proposals where he will get some defection from some Democrats a net to get things through enough where twenty thirty forty Democrats will vote for it. It doesn't you can still have a very small minority of the Democrats voting that you needed to be common sense enough where their constituents will press them to compromise in that will give President Trump victory to deliver a victory in two thousand at twenty. Do you think the president didn't now any national emergency and use that as a basis for five big money for a border security effort from existing appropriations do expect him to make such an announcement in the near future? I expected it would be highly likely for him to I think that was his opportunity to speak to the congress and to the American people and explain that he's trying to get things done at the end of the day. If the congress doesn't want to play ball, they're not gonna play ball. And he's probably going to have to do what he has to do all that it is a national emergency. And you can't say it because it hasn't been dealt with for thirty five years in the default that we don't treat it like an issue that therefore not a national emergency. That's not a valid way. To look at things. The only argument that the Democrats are making does it bother you that if in fact, a national emergency declaration is used to help fund border security that let's say a democratic president good come on at some later point and use that as a precedent to say the fact that we don't all have health insurance coverage will declare that a national emergency and move forward in that fraud. Does does the president of declaring a national emergency have any for you? Any reason to be fearful in my opinion that comparison from border from declaring a national border wall to declaring an emergency healthcare. I think that at least this time is a little bit of a stretch not an impossibility but a little bit of a stretch. I am obviously concerned anytime where the executive branch decides to just do it. So in this case, this is such a big issue. I think we have to bite the bullet and just do it. But I'm very very glad that he existed, and it's continuing to exhaust all other options before that it's imperative that he does that for goodwill and just show that he's just not going and trying to rule with a pen and a phone like Barack Obama did bullets. Not forget who started that precedent. I gather then that you are of the opinion that we are not necessarily in full bore irrevocable campaign mode straight through till November twenty twenty ad that in fact, there are areas in which this congress and this president might produce legislate. No, I think that's because everything is always a campaign. Boy, it President Trump just went and only talked about immigration only talked about, you know, right wing issues. That's not going to be very beneficial to his campaign. So yeah, he's been presidential. This whole time may just haven't heard it. So of course, it's a campaign. You know thing that they're doing. But yes at the same time, they will have legislative things that they're going to be working on those legislative victories are what results in electoral victories. President Trump meets those would be twenty one day period is over the grace period of the government shutdown. And if there is no deal reached by the the two sides who are discussing this. Although not I gather with any great sense of urgency. Is there any way having already caved in the view of many of his supporters on the issue of the shutdown? Is there any way that the president cannot go ahead and declare a national emergency? It seems to be that that he's backed into a corner that if he. Were to capitulate again or be perceived as capitulating again that he would lose all credibility with his base. It would not be positive simply because of the fact that it would mean that was capitulating in its case. He could have just said before the shutdown Tober find I'll find your Bill at the same time. I'm signing the national alert. Itsy congratulations. I ended the shutdown. He's doing what's best for the American people first, and I respect columnist Peter van Voorhis you can see his work in the Washington Examiner.
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"East and holiday streets in one thousand nine forty three. The government announced that wartime rationing of shoes made of leather would go into effect and on this date in one thousand nine hundred sixty four the Beatles. Arrived in New York to begin their first. American tour. It's twenty three before the hour. Ditching the Grammy awards that story part of today's Hollywood minute on the way, this is America in the morning. I'm John trout. A bipartisan group of lawmakers has met with border protection officials over the best way to strengthen the southern border as that debate. Roles on the clock is ticking toward another partial government shutdown. John Lawrence reports semi-chaotic Senator Chuck Schumer says he's confident a border security agreement is doable. If the president stays out of it. We will get a deal a good deal that every so that Democrats and Republicans house and Senate Kim support Republican Representative Kevin McCarthy agrees should get this done legislatively, and I'm looking forward to making that happen as the shutdown deadline looms. Hundreds of military personnel are being moved from the Zona border for a mission in Texas. I'm John Lawrence reporting twenty two till House Democrats are turning up the heat on guns highlights from correspondent Terry Moore. Opening a house hearing New York Democrat Jerrold Nadler said epidemic of gun violence in this country is a national crisis and an international embarrassment. Anti argued that congress has been silent for too long Elena east. Eastman survived. The deadly carnage at Marjory stoneman Douglas high school in parkland, Florida last year, we have had enough of gun violence in our schools in our movie theaters are places of worship in nightclubs and restaurants on our streets and in our communities enough. She said all Americans are at risk. Meantime, Georgia Republican Doug Collins said no gun control proposals. That he has seen would have prevented a single mass shooting in the last twenty years, and he warned against feel-good remedies to gun violence politics, exercise to say, here's something that will make you feel better. But not help you in the end Cullens argued. There are no simple solutions and insisted that current gun laws need to be enforced. I'm Terry Moore on Capitol Hill. It's twenty one till can DC lawmakers work together reverberations from Trump's speech, Tuesday, still echo. Here's jimbohannon. We have heard the state of the union address. And we have heard the democratic response. Now. Of course, it's time for congress to do something just exam. What they will do or can't do. Well, that's a for some discussion, which we will hold with Peter van Voorhis psychologists political strategist contributor to the Washington Examiner. And do you see any possibility for bipartisan action by congress? You know, I do Jim from what I saw. There were so many comments has proposal the president put out from working to an HIV and aids to childhood cancer to dealing with as you said, the high price of prescription drugs what he needs is to put out proposals where he will get some defection from some Democrats enough to get things through enough where twenty thirty forty Democrats will vote pray. It doesn't you can still have a very small minority the Democrats voting print that you needed to be common sense enough where their constituents will press them to compromise in that will give President Trump victory to deliver a victory in two thousand twenty do you think sets the president didn't announce any national emergency use that as a basis for five big buddy for a border security effort from existing appropriations do expect him to make such an announcement in the near future, I expect that it would be highly likely for him too. I think. That was his opportunity to speak to the congress and to the American people and explain that he's just trying to get things done. And at the end of the day, if the congress doesn't want to play ball, they're not gonna play ball. And he's probably going to have to do what he has to do all that it is a national emergency. And you can't say it because it hasn't been dealt with for thirty five years in the default that we don't treat it like an issue with therefore, it's not a national emergency. That's a valid way. To look at things. The only argument that the Democrats are making does it bother you that if in fact, a national emergency declaration is used to help fund border security that let's say a democratic president could come on at some later point and use that as a president to say the fact that we don't all have health insurance coverage will declare that a national emergency and move forward that fraud. Does does the precedent of declaring a national emergency have any for you in any reason to be fearful in my opinion that comparison from? Border from declaring an asshole Burgess e four border wall to declaring a national emergency crowd care. I think that at least it time is a little bit of trash not an impossibility, but a little bit of a stretch. I am obviously concerned anytime where the executive branch decides to kind of do it though thing in this case. This is such a big issue that I think we have to bite the bullet and just do it. But I'm very very clad that he exhausted and is continuing to exhaust all other options before that it's imperative that he does that for goodwill and just show that he's just not going to rule with a pen and a phone like Barack Obama did. But let's not forget who started that precedents. I gather then that you are of the opinion that we are not necessarily in full bore irrevocable campaign mode straight through till November twenty twenty at that. In fact, there are areas in which this congress and this president might produce legislation. No, I think that's a misnomer because everything is always a campaign, it, President Trump just went and only talks about immigration all they talked about, you know, right wing issues, and it's not going to be very beneficial his campaign. So yeah, he's been president. So this whole time they just haven't heard it. So of course, it's a campaign thing that they're doing. But yes at the same time, they will have the legislative things that they're going to be working on legislative victories are what results in electoral victories, President Trump needs. Those would be twenty one day period is over the grace period of the government shutdown. And if there is no deal reached by the the two sides who are discussing this. Although not I gather with any great sense of urgency. Is there any way having already caved in the view of many of his supporters on the issue of the shutdown? Is there any way that the president cannot go ahead and declare a national emergency? It seems to be that that he's backed into a corner that if he were to. Capitulated again or be perceived as capitulating again that he would lose all credibility with his base. It would not be causes simply because of the fact that it would mean that was capitulating in this case he could have just said, you know, what before the shutdown over fine. I'll find your Bill at the same time. I'm signing a national. Congratulations. I ended the shutdown. He's doing what's best for the American people first, and I respect that columnist Peter van Voorhis, you can see his work in the Washington Examiner. Sixteen.
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"America's future decision is ours to make President Trump during his state of the union remarks of the past evening, we're talking with columnist and political strategist Peter van Voorhis and also with Daniel who calls in from Wichita Kansas this evening, Daniel, good evening and good to have you aboard. Good evening. I have two things I want to bring up, but I don't want to say I think that the president made an honor Steph or to. Reach out. And all right. My main things or two things when he talks about the VA reform. Is nothing, but a farce has not been reformed at all since Obama administration. They talk about the choice act that is that is just a complete joke. My second thing. I wish the president would have addressed this. He said the only thing that can stand between us or economic growth is this division. I totally disagree. And he did not even mentioned that the amount of debt. That we have cured over the last thirty years and acumen of since he became president of the United are two points. That are well worth exploring as regards the the Veterans Administration again, I would have to defer to others, although I have a veteran I have not been using a lot of of VA benefits. So I would know in regard to the the the question of of indebtedness, the president certainly is aware of trade deficits, but he has not exactly been shall we say overly concerned about budget deficits in the past. Peter. Yeah. You know, I on the first point. I'm I'm not a veteran. I have no personal experience on that. So I couldn't really comment on that. You know on on the second point. I think the president is just absolutely doing his best with stonewalling that he asked. I think in a perfect world. What I like to see him or even in an imperfect world when I like to see him tackle the issue of Nashville bet. Absolutely. It has not got the reality of it. If you wanna know why is it hasn't got bad for either party to take it seriously and the state of the union has to focus on the most immediate pressing needs. If he went strategically and discuss that even though it is a critically important issue that would completely distract from trying to get anything done with the border trying to get anything done with further reform, and we're not gonna be able to get the ball rolling to be able to actually tackle that. I it's not a perfect solution. But at the end of the day, that's how politics is played. It is how it's played. Yes. We'll we will wait until it's it's catastrophic before we we tackle it or as as Churchill once so eloquently put it Americans could always be counted on to do the right thing after exhausting every alternative to Rick in Dallas, Texas on the Bohannon show as we examined the state of the union and the democratic response Rick. Hey, Jim, let your show many times never called in very quickly about a political pundit like your guests on the show, but I can tell you I go to union meetings. I was at one tonight before work for the national association letter carriers last night, Dallas and see these are letter carriers. There's a hundred eighty people in each beating. And we sat there tonight. And we watched in the bar after American Legion. That's where the union occurs. And it was, you know, many of us you would you'd be shocked at about the union members for you know, he's are like Teamsters AFL CIO type people Beverly sixty eighty seventy whatever percent are four Trump. I sat there with people that are Brown black, white, Asian, whatever it doesn't matter. Right. But they're basically on board with Trump. We sat there, and we had a union officials actually some mash. National people. But it was just amazing. So this is not something any of your people here, you think all these union people all they're all this way. No, you really die hard people. That are forty fifty six years old err on the side of what's conservative. Yeah. I think that's an interesting point. I think that Rick probably Peter van various, Rick is probably outlined to a key reason. Why? The Democrats were not able to carry the the rust belt heartland of the country in the two thousand sixteen presidential election. Exactly, you know, it's it's a little bit too much simplification to just directly compare them to the Reagan Democrats in nineteen eighty and nineteen Eighty-four. But that's kind of what we're seeing. But beyond that, we're seeing a new coalition develop of blue collar workers and union members who see. Yeah. The president's standing up for workers. He's standing up for the lower middle classes. He's not out there. Standing up for the wealthy. That's not a story. You'll hear in the media until they have to report on it. But I appreciate you calling in and bringing that up more people need to hear that story. They'll stop telling people people hear about it and the like it absolutely to Greg in Ventura California now. Hello, greg. How you doing Jim? To say, I'm I'm a vet. And and Trump was the greatest president. I'm seventy years old. He's the greatest president in my lifetime. I'm also a union member forty three years, operating, engineers and. I don't know if they'll ever come around to Trump's with thinking, but he he he's he's done more in two years in any president in history. And I I just think he's fantastic. That's all I gotta say. All right. We'll put you down as undecided as well. In the Peter. I mean, I I would definitely agree with you on that sentiment. You know, that is that is just awesome overall to here. I'm actually about forty five minutes out here in Hollywood, California, the home of liberal elitism. So I'm glad to hear that. I have another conservative neighbor a little bit north of me. So I'm not the only one in the People's Republic of California, forty come..
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"By far. And america. America is again winning each and every day. Members of congress. This state of our union is strong. Part of the president's state of the union address this past evening, we're at one eight six six five zero JIMBO one eight six six five zero five four six two six and getting reaction from you and some calls we'll be taking as well as from Peter van Voorhis columnist and political strategists contributor to the Washington Examiner. And I'm curious Peter your thoughts says to the overall tenor both of the president's remarks at his reception on Capitol Hill. Sure. I mean, those were certainly two different things. But I think first and foremost, we need to make it clear that given the circumstances given the incredible hostile opposition within both the Democratic Party. And the establishment media what the president pull off tonight. I believe was nothing. Short of incredible. I think is delivery on the speech his unwavering commitment to the issues he ran on. And at the same time addressing issues like HIV and aids. You know, sexual trafficking, childhood cancer things that people care about that, regardless of party, you have to support you notice that would during this speech Democrats came up and supported that. So I think he came out with a message of look I'm standing for the American people in what they voted for. If you don't want to play ball not. That's fine. We're still here to move the ball forward with or without you. But let's start with these things. And I think that was a powerful message. I don't expect Democrats to probably change a whole lot legislatively, but I expect the American people to see a new side of the president tonight. One eight six six five O JIMBO is our number. And we're speaking with Peter van Voorhis columnist and commentator at the Washington Examiner. And with the David who calls in from San Francisco. Good evening, David. Hey. Well, thanks, Jim. Peter. Was I somewhat disgusted by and he didn't say a word about the government shutdown. Now, the state of the union is supposed to be a report to the people. He's he's our employees. He comes before us to tell us how the how the country's working he shuts off government. He has a forty day vacation. Well, let's be perfectly fair about this. In terms of fairness, David let's note that there was a disagreement between the president, and the congress it led to the shutdown, and I recall, the massive junket that Democrats took down to Puerto Rico. So I think we might as well state the case fairly he was on the job a lot more than they were. Rico it look beyond that. I mean, I don't know if you and I were listening state of the union, but it was pretty clear that he referenced that a number of times throughout he said, look we have ten days to avoid this. Let's come together and make a deal that was the entire purpose of the speech was to tell the congress. He's here to make a deal. Let's get something done. I don't know. If you listen to the same speech. I did. But I think that's what all Americans heard you might hear different things in San Francisco. David or do anything about it? Anything about it that the the the waiting period the ten day ten days. We're left on the twenty one day grace, period. I mean, there's nothing to do at this time. We'll see how the members of congress do again, he's he did the government shutdown. We're just not going to go down that road. This was something that was done by both sides. Either side could have made some contributions toward a compromise. And by the way, the president was the only one who made any moves toward a compromise. And there was the famous remark by Nancy Pelosi. How much would she pay for a wall one dollar? If you wanna talk about who provoked the circumstances and about who refused to move that would be the Democrats. So you've got that fair one eight six six five zero JIMBO. Yes. Go ahead. Peter, I was just gonna say very very quickly beyond that. Jim. Let's notice here for the listeners how the argument changed from the president never bothered to give you the light of the day to suddenly, it's all the president's fault. There seems to be some some selective amnesia among some other people commenting here in terms of what was actually said some feeling seem to be getting in the way. I don't know if you see the same thing there. Well. Oh, yes. I can I can go along with that. Ron in Tyler Texas is next. Hello, Ron and good evening. And your guest, I would like to make the farming operation. Another response to the president. That was transmitted today through the Spanish language television station done by congressman Becerra. Now. How are we gonna wear in order to be honest on both sides of the aisle gear? The transmission of the president's each was done correctly in content. Made by was the president's speech done correctly. What do you mean by that? Well, sometimes some translations, and and I am going book I've seen and I've been in for example in United Nations in which I have the same. Meaning whatever, what are you suggesting that the Spanish language broadcast was somehow slanted Irish? That's ridiculous. It's so ridiculous. Not even remotely concerned about it. If you don't hear it in English. Well, that's your problem Univision is not gonna do that. Or any exactly the idea that there's some conspiracy to change that spend. I mean, come on. That's that's why people call Republicans racist because we bring up stupid things like that. That has no basis. In fact, the Kim and shields Michigan. Hello, kim. Jim thanks for taking my call. Sure. Hi tear-gas. I just wanted to say, I love the president's speech. I listen on the radio. So I couldn't see where people were you know, doing any anything against. But I just think he covered everything he, you know, he covered the people that are being murdered and raped and human trafficking, and the, you know, the coding at all the stuff coming in. I I think he did a wonderful job. And I don't know where that guy from San Francisco is coming. Well, I think it's pretty obvious where he was coming from. He doesn't like the president anything. The president does is is automatically evil. I mean, there was much doubt about where he was coming from. So. Suffice it to say your thoughts. Peter. Yeah. You know? I I I completely agree with the caller here. I think a lot of the issues he brought up were of course, paramount. But beyond that, I think the tone of his speech was he talked about people not policy, and I think the GOP more we can talk about how our policies impact people the better. And that's what he did throughout the speech. It was not just about legislative things. Although is important. It was brought up, but it was not necessarily the focus. I think the focus on the speech from anyone trying to look at it from a neutral point of view could see that he was trying to honor all America's trying to represent all Americans and do that in the best way possible. And that's an honorable way to help pull the state of the union. Here's a call from Franken Marion Iowa, Frank good evening. Good evening. Jim Bowen guests I did not hear the present speech. Unfortunately, I just kind of woke up on the third Shifter. But I'm also a one sided, and you don't the clip. I did see was Nancy Pelosi looking through paperwork while the president was speaking. And I'm just I'm still tickled by the arrogance of the Democratic Party that they seem to who forgotten who won the election. President Trump won the election by the American people because anti Pelosi doesn't like Donald Trump. I don't care who Nancy close. You like Joe who she doesn't like she's not the president. And she wasn't elected the president and her party wasn't elected. So I get sick and tired of this. How stupid are the American people concept. I can't turn on the television. And see what's what who's who? I mean, it's just getting the point of ridiculous. And you know, you keep hearing these. Far out notions of civil wars and everything else. Well, sometimes I don't I don't know. Well, the suffice it to say we'll put you down as undecided. Franken continue our thoughts and calls at one.
"voorhis" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW
"Accused him of paying these tricks in the election and forever, then on was known as tricky dick that started the Nixon national campaign, and, you know, something JD or remember this in your audience. So think about this this guy, Richard Nixon, he was probably the most prominent human being in the United States of America from literally nineteen forty six forty eight all the way up to the time. He resigned in seventy four thirty years. He dominated politics for thirty years that guy, and there was a lot of stuff he was in. And we're going to tell the story that's for sure. The Dow JD I know you want to respond, but I hate now I can see where all little commies out there in California. They got all their material, you know, what their pink hats, and you know, all their Howard Stern rhetoric in minutes. Prior Howard Stern got his things with all the things going on out. There you balance back and forth. Where do you think JD? Exactly, right. I forgotten about Jerry Voorhis timeframe, you know, just try to recall from memory, but he created so much animosity by going after these communists. I believe he was on the McCarthy hearings. Also and the process. Leading up to Dan rather. And all of these are all of these people and people forget even Eisenhower told him to challenge and no one in the press. This day has ever given any credit for this. The election in nineteen sixty because of the fraud that the election was actually stolen, and they ad is campaign manager everybody else wanted him to challenge it and even President Eisenhower wanted him to challenge the result. Is response. It was too. It would be too hard to dangerous for the country. Because of the things we were in the Cold War with Russia, and it would be better for the country for not this not to happen. No one ever gave the man on credit for giving up the presidency for the country. Well, what do you think? Tony. That's pretty interesting as right, and really that's what birthed the illegal Nixon and.