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Vontae Davis and Walking Away From $5 Million a Year

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Vontae Davis and Walking Away From $5 Million a Year

"This is the Rich Dad. Radio show the good news in bad news about money. Here's Robert Kiyosaki. Hello Hello Hello Robert. Kiseka radio show that good news and bad news about money and we podcasts. From Beautiful Old Town Scottsdale Arizona. Or it's either heaven or Hell Ellen Right now. It's kind of like chilly. It's a little bit chillier than I like but anyway it's it's beautiful here in Scottsdale and today show is for you. ooh Out there you know. I often say to people if I gave you five million dollars a year. Would you quit your job. I'll say it again if I gave you five million dollars a year. Would you quit your job to work for five million a year. You know it was a question that that was passed to me when I was a lot younger this hall. What what what would it back? Then it was a million dollars. What would you do for a million dollars? And I was kind of cocky and arrogant counts and all this stuff and I said million dollars not enough you know just my attitude on the whole thing so I mean that's really what we're talking about today. It's really about those of you. You were hanging onto a low paying job but you're not getting ahead but you hang on for that paycheck benefits or you hate what you do but did you hang in there for the paycheck or you hate your old man or your lady and you still hang in there because you need other paycheck. You know what I mean money as As much as people say I'm not interested in money but money affects all of our lives one way or the other so that's why the rich dad radio show is kind of the way you think offi different points of view and insights from people who have that money you know got got rid of the idea of money so so we want people to go free at redstone. So my sweetheart chemists taken her sister to the airport right now. So standing in is Greg author her and he is going to be replacing. King Warning Greg Warnin and a yeah not not your sweetheart No I appreciate that. Yeah and our guest. Today is Vodka Davis. This guy is famous infamous and why infamous like I said if I ask most people now what would you do for five million dollars. Most people will do anything but what font it did is he walked away from five million dollars in fact he walked off the field at halftime during a professional football game and walked away from five million dollars. That takes takes a lot of guts. So that's where we're GONNA be talking about today but it's really not about. I'd say it's really about you because even though I Abbas flat broke I I wouldn't accept a million dollars because I do. It could make more than that but other people will do anything for a million dollars but vodka walked away from five million dollars so the question is really about you. What would you do? Would you hang in there for five million or would you walk off the field. Ed become infamous Greg. You know about what he did. What advantage do yes? I remember this It was a huge talk with with meat on my friends is watching the Arizona Arizona cardinals game and next thing you know like they interrupted the game to let us know that One of the buffalo bills players at halftime just got up and quit just retired right there in the middle of the game and we were all like totally confused and also in rumors start flying everywhere like what is this guy doing. He just gave up everything he worked for in his life is just gave all this money and then we're like is he fighting with his team like like what could we decided concussion. Had to be a concussion so I say welcome to the Rich Dad Radio show rob or how you doing. Thanks for having me man. Thank you because it's really not about you. I'm really talking about everybody out there. Who is working for the man where the paycheck or job security or the pension? Whatever they're working for and at least you had the guts assistant up and face it so really what caused you to walk off the field at half-time well like you say definitely time you know I had? I had a sort would've out of body experience and the money wasn't there wasn't on my mind at the time You know after walking away from the game I realized that my health was is is a main priority in my life at this point and I was willing to sacrifice in the family and olive. Because that wasn't more mature than my health at the moment. Because because there's a lot of this you know things about concussions and long term damage. NFL covered it up for years and years and years. I don't really good. Personal friend played rugby together and I watched him die over ten years because he could never get his brain back in his helmet because he played for Dallas and he played for the Washington Redskins redskins he was all NFL pro. I slowly watched him die. But how much of a motivation was your health. The reason for walking off that field the site billion bucks to yeah. I mean like you said there's no amount of money You can have or make to the pitcher health on the line. So like you said a lot of these stories CTE and I mean there's no amount of money that can can bring back your health so help was you now. It's very a a motivating You know came into a motivated and reasons why you know. Obviously I left the game. So that is Greg Eh. You know a lot of people a lot of people get up and do some crazy things that people don't understand but like it just hearing your story. Did you calculate like how much money he hadn't bank I did you. Did you make sure like your family was taking care of before before you made this decision or was it that impulsive that you just like health I and I gotta get out of here. Well I always knew when I like my fourth year in the League. I was always good with my money. So I I live in I I. I conduct myself in the lead every year my career as if if they're year was stopped I will never get another paycheck. I always financial literacy. Ah always was prepared so I knew I will be able to leave the game whenever I wanted my own terms so Money wasn't money wasn't an issue. Choose to me like I said it was majority my health I knew I'll be. I'll be financially stable because I took care my money. When I was playing the game I was very into you? You know just saving. I say over eighty percent of my money so I always always knew I'll be prepared when I could leave the game of football so for Pillai it might hate the job right now. That would be step one. You GotTa Plan Your Exit Absolutely. Yeah and that's the best thing I did. When have my third year? When I was a young guy you know I I I I used I used? Obviously I was very in tune with my finances and I believe that came from like reading. Looks like richest man in Babylon your book. The Rich Dad Poor Dad that always encouraged me to obviously learn about money. No money work and be able to use. There's money as a resource to work for you. So you know physically have to work for the money all the time you'll learn well tell you learn well all of you listening out there getting my book now. It's very good because what Kim and I decided to do when we got married was we set a goal of one we would retire and a lot of people. Don't think retirement until it's too late and they can they don't have any money set aside so our our major priority was retire. I that's why buckles called retire young retire rich and multiple. Don't think about retirement until sometimes it's too late. I think that's step one the number one here but let's go back to the football. How did you get into football? How did you start and all that? Why have older brothers name is Burn Davis Burner? He also plays an NFL. He's actually still playing. He plays with the Washington Redskins so My brother he was great and having a brother and a household as well because we motivate survey to me I never really liked football. Always like basketball but being around my brother he motivated me. Football became a game that I eventually started love and you know I did out of fun and I realized I was good at it and I was able to not obviously making some NFL. Where'd you grow up? I grew up in Washington. DC Oh my God and what college you go to the play. The University of Illinois University Illinois Champaign Urbana good for you good for you and then how how was the transition from. Let's say college to pro. Oh it was completely different. You know your talent no longest you get you by In the professional level you have to become student again. I'm in my first game. Our most retired them. Because I didn't think I'd be long. They're the transition from college. Let's football to professional. Football is big difference. Yes yes absolutely hassle level of Ability goes to a whole different level in the national in football league. Then what was your family backgrounds. You have a good family bad family. I mean 'cause my roommate at school in New York was from Anacostia L. D. C. Area. And he said he had he had to move out because it was too rough for him. The neighborhood you know yeah yeah no absolutely I came from a very you know Unfortunate circumstances on. I mean both. My parents were predicted to drugs. So my my grandmother. She came in and adopted adopted. Me and my six other siblings G. Seven of total so I mean people like my grandmother you know who their to WHO's there to to change my life if it wasn't for her I probably wouldn't have known my siblings. We will probably have this splitting up in the foster care system. Help you taking can carry grandma absolutely. Yeah you don't you don't have to worry about you. Give her a big hug for me what you do that. Yeah we'll do we'll do a saint man. She's a saint acing amazing. Is She the reason that the u valued education so much we keep hearing about especially athletes football players who they make a ton of money and then they retire. They're bankrupt and it sounds like that. That is not your case you you made a ton the money but you got yourself educated as well so you're smart with where did that that need for education. Come from yeah. I've said my grandmother. She always she. She always told US football with house. Choice the place she always said. You don't have to play football. You know you can do anything. Yes she always told me that and that always stuck with let me so that there will be always obviously interested in other things like money you know money. Money is a key component to living life. You don't understand money you can't provide you can't live comfortably and you can't take care of your family always knew that was a big. The big big big learn about was money because you can't walk off the field. If you don't have any money you gotta keep playing absolutely. What what? What message would you pass onto somebody listening right now? who is thinking about? What the Hell am I doing? I'm stuck in this job. Not Making enough money or I hate what I do. And what advice would you have. People Today Well I will say you don't be stuck in a job that you don't love doing I mean there's a lot of people that stuck in a the job that that they don't love doing but they will show up for the paycheck. I will be. I will be a lot more happier having a job that I loved. Aren't aw make your mind. Well two hundred fifty two point five eight months they come on get down to what I pay these guys. Is You know what two dollars fifty cents an hour and you complain. That's that's only funny to you. Robert not funny to me so anyway. So there's a book called the Middle School. Rules Avant Davis by Sean John Jensen. Sea S. E. A. N. J. E. N. S. C. N.. What is that book about walkabout lessons? I've learned from my grandmother growing up in Washington. DC Some of the obstacles. I had to overcome and the lessons. I still that still stands with me to this day to make you know obviously great decisions and make great choices choices choices in life that you up a pretty rough area. Yeah a lot of my friends I probably incarcerated order no longer Living so the neighborhood I grew up it was very very rough neighborhood. Drug inflicted gang violence. And you know me and my brother both was able to overcome. Oh come those things to do succession do good things in life as well so let me ask this a lot of guys blame their their environment. They blamed the gang the hood the France and all this for them going down the road to the laugh versus the road to the right and Book Middle School Rules of Vantera Davis. What lessons do you want to pass onto young people? especially if they are trapped in a hood education. Like you said it's Ki- I always educating myself you know And I always my uh on my grandma always told me you don't know what you don't know you know so you have to always learn anything anything hours ask questions. I'm willing to reach out to people if I don't no no anything you know. I'm humble enough. I have enough humility to you. Know to go out and act people. If I don't know anything and I was always curious about learning new things not paying. That's the trait that I always had that kind of counterpart me throughout my life is being willing to learn. Listen to other people and humble humble myself to ask ques- Savante like in sports. You always have a coach so you always have someone to escort teammate. When it came to to your money and learning by your finances who did who did you we have? Who is your financial coach or did you go to for advice? Well I've been married and married the the my my dream woman because my wife. She's after she actually an attorney. She's a lawyer so any anybody any questions I had. Even if it was like sitting that were financial advisers I will always fit with four or five different financial advisers to obviously compare and contrast the differences between all the now. You know it's good for you. Very smart humble. Ask Robert. Robert's still does that. He has his own team of advisers. He still goes is to regularly Because I was never smart. Schools learned to learn task last absolutely sold. And as I was doing I was plan in an NFL. 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Okay to here. Our podcast go to rich dad. RADIO DOT COM any questions tissues. Hashtag ask Rich Dad on social media and we will answer any questions or AH. If there's a common question repeats got so many questions and this is one of the most important wines is how do I quit my job. I mean most people are trapped. They went to a school. That got that job. Then they're trapped so that's what we have Vantera Davis today you know. He's a Kaya walkaway at halftime major pro football all team any walk away from five million dollars. ECOMMERCE are Greg only only that a that would terrify me first of all just to step away from that money and it sound like monty really did it right because the first thing you talked about get educated I on how to handle money and that gave him the freedom then to make these types of choices leases which is amazing but what I was really curious about is like he's he says he did it through his intuition right and and and like that's ballsy move just to do from your gut and so as i WanNa know like how did he get really permission to listen to his own. Addition and such a level that's going to affect his finances his family. Like when you factor money you fact every area of your life and so so Monte I was just wondering like did you have a spiritual guide her guidance or or how did you really get occurs just to listen to your gut like you did. Marriage is Kinda pommie. I'm Anne my grandma grandma but she. She praised the latch. He has this war room. She goes to. She'd been praying for years over our family. So I mean I. It could be my grandmother blessings coming down it's awesome. Is Your Grandmother Still Alive yes year. She's seventy eight at the moment. I'll give her a hug. Like I said okay I know. Pass this on you know When I got out of the Marine Corps? I've always quit my job because I have to move on so my first job was with standard oil of California making a lot of money but I quit to join the Marine Corps because throat my country and I was in when I was in the Marine Corps flying in Vietnam I realized I was lied to. That was Kinda disgusting. Couldn't fight anymore. Couldn't kill anymore but you have after and then when I was getting out of the Marine Corps my rich Dad said to me it depends on what you're GonNa do you GonNa Fall on your poor dad's footsteps then you go back to school. Get Your Masters you got your PhD or follow in my Rich Dad's footsteps. He says be an entrepreneur. Prepare for it. You got to have the skills number one on skill about entrepreneurs sell so that's why when I was still in the Marine Corps. I was planning my escape. You know from from the core and that's why applying to companies taught me how to sell Sales equals income a such good advice from my rich dad. Because the reason I'm not afraid of not having money is 'cause I can sell like I said my best selling author that a best writing author and most people just don't have the skills to sell so that's why we endorse network marketing for so many people. Even if you're not successful learn learn to handle your fears your doubts and all that stuff because otherwise those doubts and fears are there anyway so anyway So back to von Tei. You're going into to becoming an entrepreneur now and you have a wellness ball called visa tone is that you can provide holistic therapies that help people sustain a healthy lifestyle. So it's really all in keeping isn't it. You walk off feel for your health but you go into the health field and healthy lifestyle business correct absolutely yes. That's correct. Obviously you know I'm GONNA be able to sustain a healthy lifestyle as long as I possibly can be there for my kids. Be Able to run around with my kids and and as you know after the stores with car. NFL guys you hear a lot of you know obviously things that affect their health long term. So that's that's that's that's what I'm focused on now at this point in my life. So where's this visa wellness. Spa GonNa be wait. Waco started in Fort Lauderdale Florida. Roll the rich. People are very smart very smart. 'cause rich people have time to for health. Poor people don't that's the sad thing about it it so let me ask you this question. actually Sarah. Our engineer asked this question is any other. NFL Players Talk to you about wedding or their health Yeah I'm in Couple of guys use out semi just checking on me and just just just action in the office where I'm at in life. You know and a lot of these guys I try to talk to him about five. Just have an exit plan having a plan in place. Fire's what they WANNA do after football. Because I try to tell them. Football's not a career. You know it was just a game. It's going to stop at some point and you have to have have a friend and I mean it's like any other business you know players commodities Ra- these days so whenever you get entries and everything you become expendable it's like it's like it's been so I try to educate me on that and Just to have a plan after the game of football so ask you this. How prevalent now is with concussion? And all these movies coming out. And you know like my friend John Wilbur dying and he couldn't get off drugs because the pain was so high. How much concern is at today in? Let's say a lot of parents are saying my kids not GonNa play football and not going to go to a pro but how it is the word about concussion. Especially and brain damage affecting the sport. Man's really affected because guys are becoming more aware of their bodies they becoming more aware of the Degenerative diseases like Alzheimer's Dementia. So guys are becoming more aware. I originally just spread someone Joe nameless. He's actually opened up A High Burn Chamber facility that that's that's opening to to obviously help with C. T. so Gaza becoming more aware and I think Is Good that this information is coming out. Because there's there's the link between repetitive hit head trauma to C. T.. Okay so I mean it's great to have information come come out and guy coming more aware of how much of a son no I have. No kids yet. Had If you had a child or a son which have play football Vessels Jessica. I probably wouldn't have haven't played football. I want I want. I want force them. I won't force them into football. I will obviously give them a whole lot of other options to do to play. Well if he likes football at-bats that he wanted to play. I mean I can't keep them from if it's passionate if this is love. I can't keep him from his passionate love of the game and is a a of the League doing anything to help a concussion problem with equipment or I know they're calling the game tighter but is is it enough enough. Yeah I mean I'm not sure. What the initiative they are taking? But you know obviously when I was playing No it was the I believe. They're trying to change the helmets. The big get safer hamlets for the players. That's the last time I under. I seen him trying to improve like the concussion protocol. Yeah that's I've I've noticed that too. wasn't a big deal this off season that One of the players refused to wear the newer helmet and he wanted to wear an outdated helmet and he was willing to you. Take the concussion risk and all those things Do you personally have you suffered any lasting injuries. Anything that that. You wish wish you would've quit a little earlier Like you said the customers as like you know the movie. The concussion movie that came on Audie all brought awareness and I always had in the back of my head the effect he can have on a player long term. So I always knew about concussions. You know and and like you say if I could I would I have put would it earlier I I'm not sure you know absolutely. I hear that. A lot of parents are pushing their kids towards basketball. which it sounded like you? You wish you would've stayed with anyways but they're saying that that could have negative effects on the NFL because the product eventually will decrease because the best athletes will go to other sports. No absolutely right absolutely so. Let's a we're running out of time. Here it's interesting talking to you. We'll get into sports and not money and preparation ration- and all this other stuff. Because I know I have severe concussions in my head is because I used to box like an idiot and I can't take a punch so I've been knocked out so many times but anyway and I feel it today. You know my brain is just not not there all the time. But it wasn't from football because I wasn't that aggressive player football anyway but boxing day. They they go they go straight for your head the body and it's it's interesting support there to ask us. What does the next year hall for you? You know you're you're spreading the word you getting it out there. You're encouraging people to prepare for the exit to get out of the out of the game as fast as possible. which is what we do at Rich Dad? You know escape from the rat race as soon as you can. And then once you're out of the rat race and keep doing what you love automatic retiring because I don't retire. I like what I do. So what what final words would you have for people you know you walked away from a five million dollar a year profession. What advice what final words would you have for people well You know follow your intuition. 'cause your answer wishing rarely stairs there's fears you wrong and looking back on a decision I made. It was one of the best decisions in my life and because right now I'm able to. Obviously you know set my family up do things. That's GonNa help me. Long-term like focus on my health and Dank that's GonNa make me continue to improve nope just in general that's good that's good and a final whereas Greg none Just really inspiring a especially with your grandma how that one woman changed so many any lives and and actually the her core foundation that she gave you to better yourself and always educate yourself is well ultimately gave you the freedom to walk away which then then ultimately protected. Your health is just a like that one woman change a lot of lives. And that's that's really amazing and it's probably why you're on this radio show a a lot of lives right now. Yeah people will listen to like think of the power that one woman had bay. They'd taken responsibility really for grants. Yeah not not even her job to do and she did it and she using women change your life so let me ask you. This question. Is Your visa wellness. Spa In Fort Lauderdale is an open yet Not yet. We're looking to open January first. Wow you're close then yeah getting close. Yeah so What kind of facility? I'll Eunice shopping center. Oh you know what way located commercial space how many square feet pretty good pretty good pretty good pretty good well anyway. I'm proud of you my friend. You know I mean you. 'cause a lot of controversy I didn't hear about I mean Andrew Luck who has also been Andrew Luck. Our surprise walked off the the feel and look for those amount. No He's a Stanford Guy. He was is really really smart and really really good at quarterback and he still walked out from the pro football seeing. So it's an interesting time. They're wanting yeah absolutely. I mean I play where Andrew lucked like you say. He's really bright guy Very in tune with his body. I mean me nor nor him as a person I'm not surprised you know Andrew lucked. He's the guy that you know you know he's making decisions. Yeah very very very very stern decision. So I'm not too surprising him leaving the game. Either you guys have really cause your physical health is your asset right absolute and so if you guys to say my Aston is more important than the money. That's a pretty important statement. Yeah wishaw aw sure. Absolutely so Yvonne Congratulations. Please give your grandma hug as very proud of her. And for those of you who Have kids are I wanNA know more about the book. The Middle School Rules Avant Davis by Shawn Johnson S. A. N. J. A. N. S. E. N.. Please rate at. Because it's about how vaunted came through a DC neighborhood teammate. With drugs and gangs and young readers will need to learn how Font Ponte thrived with the support of Kosher teachers teammates friends and relatives but more important but no more important grandmother. I think that's the thing is most impressive is that all through. Voluntary success is never lost his humility. I think if you're if you're arrogant you stop learning. If you're humble you'll always keep deep learning so stay humble. Their parents appreciate a man. Appreciate Greg just really nice meet. You can't wait to tell everyone everyone gets to talk to you. That is it's a real honor. Thank you thanks. Nice meeting you as well take care. Hey what would come back with the going. More into into a little commentary. I think commentary will do as on spirituality because a lot of people say they believe in God but they don't trust in God and a lot of times you know like my teacher Bucky Fuller said is that God is something they do one seventh of the time and six sevens their are disobeying God. I'm not real religious but I was very spiritual and so a lot of times. People don't quit. I may believe in God. They don't trust and thank. What did he talks about? Intuition Trust. who was a god and we'll timeframe we come back discuss thus what we teach you at right back back Robert Kiyosaki? This radio show. Good news isn't bad news about money. You listen to radio program anytime anywhere on Itunes or android and please the review with us and you can listen to our podcast again. Rich Dad radio again we record or so we say we store our podcast so he can listen to it again and again and again discuss with your friends because with education if you listen to this program with Davis One more time I think you'll have a spiritual experience going. Why am I working when I don't like what I'm doing showing you know? I mean you may start to question things that you cannot suppress here so again. All of our programs are archived. Rich DAD RADIO DOT COM. So you can discuss with yourself. Friends is love and business partners and maybe get on with your life other than just working for the money and if any questions use Hashtag ask Rich Dad On social media be happy to answer any questions while we do our best to when there's a series of the same questions so we'll I like to do is have a little discussion with Greg. Greg what do you think about spirituality and money and if people talk about doing what you love but I think very few people have that opportunity right yeah totally You know we always say that Money is important. We we always say that but we always say it's important because it's a tool money's why gives you your freedom. A Utah taught me that from day. One that I was here in the vaunt they story is such an example. Because would have been able to or would have had the courage to listen to his intuition his gut his spirit if he didn't have the money if he if he didn't play that foundation effort to prepare for it. Great maybe he would have. I wouldn't I wouldn't have have that much courage in me. Sixty five percent is the average deaths of professional or high paid. Athletes are broken five years. Yeah you know I was I will mentioned the guy's name but I was in Las Vegas again. The Guy pointed to this one guy in the corner. The guy was a famous boxer and he was completely like make drooling his head so beat up and all he could do was. Stand there with a guard's uniform on and he was flat. Broke off of one fight How do you know what I mean? It's funny but you always said it's not how much you make. It's how much you keep and that's where the educationally kicks in like. He could make all all the money he wanted to as a boxer look good. Did it do right right while money will never get you. There really won't so anyway one of the things I- I I stress here at Rich Dad which I never I didn't do for much of the time was because once Kim and I had enough money the question is what do you do next. I and if I had continued to work for money I think I read died so when Kim retired she was thirty seven and I was forty seven. But just as we said on this with Vaughn is one of your primary objective especially today is went. You plan to retire because the idea of having a job waiting for your 401k or your stock Barker to save you. I think you're going to be sadly disappointed. Because what I'm forseeing is a massive crash coming it's GONNA wipe out a lot of people and I'm coming out with a new book who stole my pension and all these. These guys who think their pension is safe. I think Wall Street has other ideas on their pensioneer. So when I said a young people like you guys said you know plan your retirement armament the day you start working in a Wendy's escape from the rat race as the cash flow game there so when Kim and I got married every week ten years and said in ten years. We're going to be out of here and that's kind. Of what vaunted he's out of here he's Freeman though. He can be an entrepreneur. What he wants to do so for Kim and I we had what really really rich? We're making about ten thousand a year. We have three thousand expenses out of the rat race but it wasn't the money money it was. What was the experience? We had of investing in capital. You know thus capital income and income from Labour Inc capital or labor and by learning how to have capital money. Work for you Kim and our free and once we're free got richer and richer and richer and richer and richer because we learned how to have capital for us our money work for us verses verses Labor and as you know we have as well as Tom Wheelwright on here A. CPA is the harder you work with Labor more tax you pay. It's it's really tragic and then I'm going to show millennial money with Alexandra. Gonzalez is I didn't really realize until I looked into it. The millennials else are really screwed. You know you. Guys aren't millennials you in between there but the millennials have really been toasted. Oh yeah they're toasted so they can't sit sit there and just go to school at work hard and get a job because my generation the boomer generation when we're a thirty five years old we own twenty five five percent of the economy at thirty five. We all twenty-five Gender Gen- exiting guys are at your own about fifteen fifteen percent. The millennials is three percent oh they have nothing plus are coming out of school in student loan debt choke a Horse Horse. I saw more important. Please pay attention to our little program called millennial money with Alexandra Gonzalez. Because does the millennials have been screwed. It's horrifying was faces them and rather program that Sarah Setup is with Christina. My personal assistant is how I got started. So it's really time to start thinking about how you exit the so you can get on with your life. You know like I keep telling you guys yeah. I don't want you to leave but I don't need the job. Dude I mean yeah evidently and then you're working you having a good time 'cause your work as you don't need the money and you got richer and richer and richer and richer once you load half capital mark for you versus Labor Comments Greg. Well it goes back to was What it was a Friday? You actually came in and said to me getting rich isn't it's not difficult. It's actually it's simple. It's not easy. It's simple all you do. Is You keep buying assets like it's that simple. Just keep and that's really what you're talking about has acids are. Is your money working for you. And Yeah the concept sub two super simple and then our fear in our own little voice gets in the way in scares us from actually doing it because we only understand labor is. We've been taught that from. Yes exactly and the other thing about health is that you know I spend sometimes ten thousand dollars a visit on special doctors. 'cause I can afford. I don't need health insurance. I mean I use it. I can't use it but the rich can afford better health. That's advantage saying you know. And that's really the future so in somebody says while not interested in money that they say I'm not interested in life here and that's why I've reached here really stress. Financial Education The stock market doesn't make any sense. Right I mean how can you have quantitative easing Q. E. which is counterfeiting money. They just printing that crap crap and then there's URP zero interest rate policy so you get paid nothing for your savings and banks are going broke. Insurance companies going broke right now but the rich getting richer here so we've never been here before nothing else you know. Thank all of everybody into Rich Dad Radio Radio and know that money is important and I like to spend money as you guys know much as anybody else I like it but money is very very important for your health L. Happiness. I'm GonNa Thank Vantera Davis. The book is the Middle School. 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RTFP # 897: Andrew Brandt

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RTFP # 897: Andrew Brandt

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It's the big show. It's Andrew Brandt. Andrew. Typically, I would say, well, now that the season's here, the business stuff will slow down not the case, which is why I'm so glad you have the business of sports podcasts to flesh all this stuff out even more. I guess I want to start with the continuing saga that is Josh Gordon. He gets released late Saturday night traded on Monday afternoon for a fifth round pick to the patriots. It's amazing how much we've talked about a guy with less than twenty catches since two thousand fourteen yet. Here we are your thoughts on everything that went down with Josh Gordon over the last four or five days. Couple of things for us. This is a good one because first of all, I know a lot of parties involved here. John John Dorsey. I worked with nine years in Green Bay. He's with Elliott Wolff and Lonzo high Smith brain trust in Cleveland used to be all in Green Bay with me. It was very strategic to me what they were doing. Putting out a statement that they're done with Josh on Saturday evening past the waiver wire at four PM. In other words, signalling to the NFL teams coming get them. And of course there was probably an hour past before all the national reporters were saying, hey, looks like they have a market. This was probably not going to be released. It's going to be a trade. And of course they get a fifth round pick from the patriots fifth round, pick solid, no contingencies. Now it gets a little bit deluded. If Josh doesn't play much, they get a seven to give a seventh back, but only a little bit deluded that is a strong pick this for player. Gonna cut. Usually a player you're gonna cut. It's going to be in two thousand twenty seventh round contingent. So I thought it was a master stroke by the Browns as to the player himself. There's no secrets here. He's unreliable, and will he get into the patriots culture and become reliable? We will. See you are giving me a great opportunity to plug the business of sports podcast. This week, it is with former eagles and Browns president, Joe banner who had Josh Gordon in Cleveland. He gives you some really interesting insights into Josh as a player as a person how the brands manage the situation with psychologists and psychiatrists is the perfect person. I'm not going to share too much here of talk about Josh Gordon, the person, the player and how the patriots are taking a chance that's all in the business of sports podcast this week. So through things that are interesting about to me is number one, you always talk about the talent versus balance equation and the Browns. They just despite his talent, they just couldn't tolerate it anymore. I think greater tolerance for greater talent is a maximum that I tweet all the time. But there are situations where even the greatest talent you run out on the tolerance side. It's one thing that Josh Gordon has issues. And again, I'm not going to speculate that it's all confidential with dependency. The other things just run reliability. So Joe banner, as as I mentioned, he had them fourteen games in two thousand and whatever that was thirteen. But that's five years ago and he hasn't played hardly any any of those type of seasons since. So I think it just ran out. I think this is a new regime. Look at all the chances he got from Joe's regime from the regime after Joe. And now the Dorsey and Jackson regime put up with him for a year and a little bit more and it's just enough and you're right, it goes against my maximum. And the reason is even for great talent. Like him, and it is great talent. You just run out of patience. But on the other side, that great talent knowing the issues brought, I would think Ross at least three or four, five, six teams to the table where the patriots made the best offer. And it's a solid fifth round, pick. And they have now entered the tolerance versus talent equation. And they felt like a fifth round pick was worth it. We'll see. I'm skeptical because of his lack of accountability that feel like that will drive Bella check nuts. But we'll see. I also something I wrote about this weekend drew at athletic, and that is the vantera Davis, quote, unquote retirement on Monday and wanted to get your thoughts in reaction to that. Well, I think the common narrative is that you know what a jerk. He quit on his teammates. He walked out at halftime. I guess. I mean, listen, I can't defend him. You know, you could say, well, what is he going to do? Give half-hearted performance. The second half, I guess people are saying that, but. You know he's getting. He's getting criticized harshly. I doubt his heart was in the first half or the first game last week, and it got to a point where he just walked away. I mean the point I always say Ross, and you know, this is that ninety nine point five percent of players are retired. So here's one that actually retires willfully. Now, the timing was obviously abysmal, but he walked away on his terms, how many players get to do that? Only a handful year. Some of the other things that we need to talk about. Speaking of players doing things on their own. How about Antonio? Oh, let me go back. Let me go back real quick. Devante Davis you before I get to Tonio Brown. Yeah. If you're the team Andrew and you gave them a one point, five million dollars signing bonus. And he had a two million dollar fully guaranteed salary. You got, you got to go after all that money, right? I mean you you can't. I mean you gotta get that signing bonus money back. You didn't pay the guy for six orders. Yeah, you pro- you pro- you get, you know, you give them the one one games worth of bonus. You go after the rest of it and the guaranteed salary. Listen, vantera Davis appears to be a reasonably bright individual and he certainly has brother Vernon I've known him. I mean, these, he's got a no, he can't keep the money. So it's not, you know, the the bills have to go into a non injury grievance and sue him basically. To get it back unless he would woefully give it back, which I doubt he's going to do. Then you have the curious case of Antonio Brown who tweeted that maybe the team should trade him when a former PR staffer suggested that he wouldn't have near the production. He has if it weren't for Ben Roethlisberger and then we found out on Tuesday that he didn't show up for work on Monday his agent Giro's now's issued a statement, Tuesday afternoon, saying, look, he doesn't want to be traded. He was just responding to somebody, he knows, and he had a personal matter which is why he didn't show up for work on Monday. I guess my question for you, Andrew is at what point does does he was organised Asian need to do something about what seems like. Just a lot of noise. A lot of a lot of talk a lot of negativity. A lot of distractions you'll coach is always used that word feels between lady on bell and now Antonio Brown. There's a lot of stuff talking about. Other than the games? Yeah, and we'll get to our weekly conversation about levian bell and my scratching my head as a former agent in a minute, and speaking of agents, as you mentioned, drew Rosenhaus has come out on behalf of eight Tonio Brown and say, it's nothing nothing to see here. Everybody go away. You had a personal matters funding to a former staffer that he knew. You know, usually when there's smoke, there's fire, Antonio Brown has appeared to sort of have. I don't know, not issues, but just not be fully engrossed with everyone. They're over the couple years that we've seen little things like this. I don't know what's happening, but yet I don't think in a million years, they're trading in Tonio Brown, and I just think it's something where there's little. There's trouble in paradise in Pittsburgh. We talked about the anthem stuff, you know, and that was maybe throwaway where Villanueva came out and the they stayed in the locker room, and then Ben Rothlisberger came out. Let let later in the week and said, we felt bad for our hundred. He didn't have to do that alone. You know, you just sense that it's not all harmony in the Steelers locker room now, can they win? Sure. And everyone talks about the chiefs beating, and that was a really close game at the end. So I think they'll be fine on the field. I dunno fine means championship round or even play offs, but I think they'll be fine. I just think it seems like there's got to tighten up a little bit and getting to Bill. I don't get it week three. I'm going to predict what I predicted week one and two were on Tuesday. I think by Wednesday shows up, I'm probably gonna be wrong. Again. I don't get it. There is no value to me in sitting out to get a better contract in two thousand nineteen. If I'm a team and I was a team, this guy is now Twenty-eight instead of twenty seven. I don't care that he only had one hundred fifty touches versus four hundred touches on paying them accordingly. And he has now lost a million seven. He goes away this week. It's two five. How you gonna make up that money. I just don't get it. Eleven bell thing as a former agent is just a complete mystery to me. So some of the things we should talk about kickers. I mean, how about how about this whole idea of teams trying to go young at the position? Andrew, like the Vikings, trying to save money, get a younger leg and it seems like you know, for every one that works, I swear it seems like two or three end up being the next Roberto Aguayo or Daniel Carlson or whatever. It's funny because I'm watching the Packers Vikings game, and you mentioned Carlson who I think they traded up a few spots in the fifth to take them. And then on the other side, I'm watching Mason Crosby. The last player left in Green Bay besides Aaron that I was there when we drafted, and we took him in the six round and we were thinking, wow, that's a lot of resources for kicker to us in the six round even and we had three other kickers on the roster and we basically cut him all that day and Mason was kicker, and that's what happens when you take. You know, it's like taking someone in the first round at another position. So Carlson makes the team. All the kickers are gone because you spend a fifth round pick on a kicker, and now he's gone because he shanked a couple that they could have won the game. It's and the Cleveland situation, you know, use it all the time on Twitter kickers or like lawyers, not appreciate it until you need a good one. These teams. Need a good one. The Dan Bailey thing is interesting because however he he didn't get signed or chose not to sign right before the season. They played it well, because he had a couple of different bidders I'm told and went to the best team that needs to kick her, which of course is the Vikings and we'll see where that goes. But. What position you know again, back to the Packers game, you had this guy in his second game which could be as last game. And on the other side, you had Mason who we drafted in two thousand seven still going strong. And speaking of that game, we should probably touch on, you know, the clay Matthews penalty and the protection of the quarterbacks. I know we talked about last week and I know you and Joe banner former eagles and Brown president talked about it on the business of sports podcast, but what's your reaction to sort of the uproar any and maybe even more importantly injured the NFL doubling down on saying, no, that's a penalty which I think a lot of people were expecting. Yeah. I mean, this is really. You know, the question becomes not so much. Is it or isn't, but is it fair? And I, I didn't really study there was supposed to play in the same game that Eric Hendricks was called for doing the same thing with the same little pressure on Aaron Rodgers that Klay used on Kirk cousins. I guess that's my question I get get. We're protecting quarterbacks. I get what we're trying to do, but is it fair on both sides? That's what really is the question to me. I, if we're gonna enforce these rules and we're gonna enforce somewhere to the naked eye, they don't look look like penalties. That I mean, that's a decision the league has to make. I mean, we're gonna enforce them or not enforcing, but is an equal and is Aaron Rodgers. Tree like Kirk cousins, Kirk cousins, treated like some other quarterback and is clay Matthews doing something where everyone's going to get that call. So I don't know. I mean, the thing that bothers me about officiating is not whether it's ticky tack or to lose its consistency. So I think what we want out of sports is a fair product and every every fan base is going to complain about calls on them. That's the nature of fans nature coaches, but I just wonder if it's being done. The same, and maybe it's the spike crew, right? So you know this better night, maybe some other crew besides Tony Karenni wouldn't call those two penalties in Minnesota Viking, the Vikings Packers game. So that's what I'm worried about. Consistency. We'll speak into the NFL and worries. What do you make of the letter that came out from? I think it's twenty pro football hall of famers on Tuesday, suggesting that they're going to boycott and not go to the hall of fame ceremony, unless they get both a salary and health insurance from the NFL couple of things. One, they're using the leverage. They have that is a big glorious weekend for the NFL, and it is a kickoff to the next season and they're building this hall of fame village, and it's such a momentous occasion that Terrell Owens put a damper on last year. So they're saying and mass. They're gonna. They're going to be like Terrell Owens. So that's the leverage they have beyond that. I'm not sure I get it. What's what's sort of hidden and all this Ross is this is not only about Roger Goodell. This is about to MAURICE Smith. If you read the letter, it's as antagonist towards the union as it is towards the league. And that tells me something here that tells me that in the negotiations with the union, the league is putting out a pile of money and the players, and I assume the league together, right? The players in the league, decide how much of that pile of money goes to active and what percentage I'll be at small goes to retired. So I think what we're seeing is some tension between active and retired, and as people have noted, even tension between retire. Tired and retired because it seems like this hall of fame group is only concerned about themselves and not the thousands of retired players having the same issues. You know, I'd like your thoughts on it too as a former player. Well, I mean, it's ironic to me. I understand those guys felt like they helped make the game what it is today, but those are the guys already get all the money from appearances and stuff like that. And autograph signings. It's kinda comical that they're the ones salary. I mean, maybe I can see some type of feed go to the event. But the reality is Andrew. The people really gonna. Notice if those twenty guys don't go to the hall of fame ceremony. Mean, all you need is the guys that are getting inducted that year and season yellow jackets, some gold jackets behind him. Zaborsky even notice which guys were there or not those year. Very much leverage. I think it's kind of a joke, to be honest with you, and I think that there are things they could do that would be for all retired players, but to just say, hey, the hall of fame guys, we deserve a salary salary. I mean, what. And that that's crazy. Last thing, I guess, Andrew is Carson Wentz cleared in Philadelphia. I always think it's interesting. Like I don't know what the difference was between Monday and Sunday because Sunday he wasn't able to play Monday. He was, but here we are again promoting my businesses, sports podcast. This week, Joe, the former president of the eagles for so many years banner talks about this. I don't know. I think it's hard for me to believe there wasn't a date certain with the doctors and coach Peterson, and others weren't just going to give one that date. And maybe it was, you know that Monday, September seventeenth is when everybody checks in and says, it's good to go. But it's hard to believe that we three wasn't a targeted all along, but. You know, the key is air on the side of safety for player like this. Maybe they think they are to me. Maybe it's three more games, two more games. I mean, whatever it is, maybe you add a couple games. Maybe they feel they've already done that because -sition ago at the start of the season. You know, I think it's, you know, he's the future. Everyone knows Nick foles is not the future and we're going to find out. I just hope that it's done with caution. It's done with complete deference to medical. And again, I know all these Philly guys at the eagles and I trust them and like them on the Suman. It has been done with the extreme caution we talked about. Andrew, you are the man, always appreciate the time. Love the businesses, sports podcast. I'm a huge fan of Joe banner. We share a brain allot looking forward to listen to that whole thing when I get a chance. Thanks so much for coming on. 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And I think Antonio Brown looks at that as I mean, number one, maybe until he doesn't even realize that he's not working for the team anymore because he says, well, then trade me, then I think he maybe thinks Ryan still works for the team at any rate. He still looks at it. I think as you know the team saying something to him or someone that has deep ties to the team feeling that way. And I think he took personal offense that he doesn't wanna be traded, but I can see why it is. You know that that he said what he said. And felt that way. Just I can see that. But honestly, as NFL player like you gotta be above it, right? I mean, I have people criticize me on Twitter. Somebody said you just worry about your best bet picks because we didn't win them as much money this week on even money. As we normally do even money podcasts, we've been winning a lot of people a lot of money, and I don't I off to check later, but I know I was down for the week, and so you don't get a lot of kudos when you're winning the money, but then the one week you're down, they're gonna get mad. Look. That's why it's called gambling, dude, but I don't respond if you point that, you know, like you gotta be right rise above it. Antonio Brown, much more concerning he didn't show up for work on Monday and his agent Giro's. Now's came out and said it was a personal thing. Okay. But then why the team know that you tell the team ahead of time. And you get it cleared. So that and Mike Tomlin would have said that Mike, Tom would've said, Yep, he let us know he was dealing with something of a personal nature. That's not what my town said. So take that I would say with a grain of salt, what? What the agent says there? It's not good. I mean, I don't know what they can do about it in Pittsburgh right now. Maybe it's just white noise that won't be an issue, but they get a lot of distractions. I think it's hurting them on the field. Let's talk about hall of famers like Eric Dickerson. They won't salaries and health insurance from the NFL. Yeah, injured. I touched on this a little bit it to me. I understand using leverage to try to get stuff in life, and I understand how the guys that you know were elite players that made the game popular and now see what these guys are making. Now, the seventeen million fifteen million twenty million a year. I can see how they look at that and say, man, that's ridiculous. We're the reason why the game is so popular now, and these guys are getting all this money, the league's making all this money. And we made so much less than we were playing. The thing is, though is that's really a cycle that never ends if you think about it. Right. I mean, it was more popular in the eighties because of the guys in the seventies, but yet to guys in the eighties made a lot more money than the guys in the seventies like that's just kind of the way it works. I mean, even now, you know, ten years from now guys, you're going to be getting twenty million a year, whatever lots. Guys, people are going to be saying, oh my gosh, my paid. I was making five million year. That's ridiculous. So it's, it's not. It's not a very good argument. And Eric Dickerson saying will boycott the hall of fame weekend. I don't think they care of twenty guys don't show up and what's really crazy is Dickerson as a hall of Famer is able to make so much money off the field, you know, so much money with appearances and stuff. And yet he, he just wants a salaries insane. And health insurance is expensive. You know what he should do is try to use his leverage to try to get better benefits for all retired players because only having health insurance for five years after you're done is a major major problem. When you think about pre existing conditions and things like that. But Eric Dickerson just said us twenty hall of famers want this, not a good look. Jeez time for some injury. News start with falcons placing left guard. Andy Levitra on. I are the Redskins doing the same with rob Kelley and chargers suspended. Coralee Cory. What is it? Corey Lee Liege it? Yeah, he's suing his former trainer over PD suspensions. Yeah, that's not really injury news more suspension news but put it in the same category because he's out right now. I love this. I'm glad he's doing this. You know, I feel like if if you ever tested positive for something and it's because of a supplement that had something in it that wasn't supposed to or a trainer, that in this case, I guess injected something in you that we wasn't supposed to, which by the way, I mean you having trainers inject you with stuff. And he said he thought it was the anti inflammatory. Really dude. You thought a trainer would inject you with an anti inflammatory. I mean, that's like bizarro world to me at any rate though. I just feel like your word your integrity is is is everything in life and I'd be devastated if I took something and tested positive. 'cause I feel like everybody was be looking at me and saying, he's cheater, he cheated. So if I had somebody that did something like that, I would sue the crap out of them or supplement company. I would say the crap out of them. I mean, it's still your responsibility, but I would still want to make sure everybody knows, hey, this was not my intention here and I'm going to get retribution for it as for the injury stuff. Rob Kelley? Yeah, he's been beat up. Thankfully they now have you know, Adrian Peterson things, a big problem in Atlanta, you know, he's their best guard number one, number two. You know, they're kind of losing the war of tradition. I three to that Ross Tucker, NFL Brian's at RTF podcast, but they're kind of losing the war of attrition right now. Atlanta losing Keno, Neil losing Dion Jones. Losing Andy Levin trae. I mean, we've seen some teams have some success after injuries, but makes it pretty hard to come back from all that. As for some transactions. E Cowboys brought back wide receiver. Brice Butler saints did the same which Bromley Bengals gave placekicker Randy Bullock can new deal. And the Viking sign recently released the hawks, detangle, Tom Johnson, so Butler the the Cowboys just realized you need a little bit more speed another threat and Butler. I don't know what the negative is on him. Seems like he always did a pretty good job there in, you know, in in Dallas when he was given the opportunities. I thought that was a little bit a little bit puzzling as for Bromley the saints just needs some d. line depth. I think the Bengals looked around and thought, you know, man, we are. Sienna budget kickers getting fired around the league, but you kickers getting signed. Like let's lock this guy up. We got a guy we like and think he's doing a pretty good job. Let's lock him up. Then you have the Tom Johnson situation, and this is one of those deals that's really really poor by the Seattle Seahawks. So this off season, the Seahawks signed him to a deal with a nine hundred thousand dollar signing bonus and a nine hundred and fifty thousand dollar salary. After week one, his salary was guaranteed. And by the way he started that game, he started the game against Denver in week one. Then you've got, they've got some injuries. So on Saturday, they cut Tom Johnson to promote Shalam Lonnie, a safety. From the practice squad guess what? The one he was active for the game, but he didn't play a single play. Now he was there in case it was an injury, etc. And they felt they had that need. So the Seahawks I think, I'm sure they thought that they would just cut low on, put him back on practice squad and resigned, Tom Johnson, no problem. And if you re sign the guy and he never misses a paycheck, he can't claim termination pay, but Tom Johnson thought, well, wait a minute. The Vikings are offering me one point, five million dollars. So I'll make more money. I'll go to a better team, so six hundred thousand dollars more. A better team Vikings are good. Seahawks are not end. He gets to keep all the rest of the money from the Seahawks because it's termination pay fifth year later. If you're on the opening day roster, you get to keep your salary for the rest of the year. If you get cut. Termination pay. So worked out great for Tom Johnson and really, really poor management in my mind by the Seahawks they must like they're young guys. I don't know. You'd have to tell me go to NFL game pass. Watch the Seahawks tackles. They're young guys. They evidently really like them. They, you know, they must be playing pretty well to just. Piss away that kind of money on Tom Johnson love, love, love, NFL game pass. It's so helpful for me to catch up on so many different things I want to catch up on whether it's the condensed version, or if I'm just looking to watch one side of the ball or the other. You can do that with the all twenty two angle the coaches film. It's really awesome. And I told you before, but Russell who's a tuck head. 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NFL Week 2, The Mahomes show, Vontae Davis retirement

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NFL Week 2, The Mahomes show, Vontae Davis retirement

"Yeah. Well, hi walkman first things. First, some general, that's the hall of fame. Chris Carter has always this is Nick right rate weekend of football to pass your way death Prescott in the Cowboys back on the right track. A controversial call may have cost, Aaron Rodgers win, but we will kick off the show this morning with one. Tom Brady would very much like back as Jaguars hosted the patriots. Let's go to go and guys in the rematch of last year's ABC title game were Tom Brady outduelled Blake Bortles this time around quite the opposite as the Jags did not hold back and it was Bortles who bested Brady Bortles threw for four touchdowns three hundred seventy seven yards in Jacksonville's thirty one to twenty win over New England Brady had two hundred thirty four yards and two touchdowns in the loss. Here he is after the game. Needs to a better job and not a snot, certainly our best effort. I'll give them a lot of credit. They played good. You know, make tough on on our offense defense, and you know, we just could never string a place together. That seemed to be the case as you kept wanting them to get it. Going to jump. Start jump start that often see, what do you think was the biggest key in the patriots loss on Sunday? We'll even with their often struggling with some time you're going to do against a top five defense. We know Jacksonville is going to be a top five defense, but which you don't expect is in based on the game plan at New England hat. They were expecting to get some help from the Jags. They thought the Jags and. Because he's gotten a lot of criticism that they were going to try to protect Blake, Bortles in this. That's the reason why they had seven, eight man fronts. Man, they had zero coverage. They did some things that I haven't seen New England do that consistently for a long long time. You would have thought in this game that they were down at the beginning in trying to get the ball back and try to be more aggressive. They had eight people in the bops man, the man on the outside. So Jacksonville, what did they do the most impressive thing? How they threw the ball on first down. Blake Bortles, thirteen of nineteen on first down and not only just those numbers, but it was the fame of the game. They got off to an early lead, but the drive before halftime. They're almost in the same situation. They were in the championship game, but the coaches staff said, no, we're going to be aggressive. And then that continued in the second half with radiant opportunity to get the ball back. You could see the Jags continue on first down trust. Their quarterback compared to trying to protect their quarterback. There's a lot of, you know, other subplots in the game, but for me in moving forward, that would have to be the biggest thing Jacksonville and having confidence in their quarterback and him distributing the ball and guys making place the Jags out. Patriot the patriots in this game. What you talk about right before halftime. What's been the staple of the Bella check era pets score before the half get the ball back score after half that is exactly what Jacksonville did to reel off ten straight points. Blake Bortles the stat CC mentioned are unbelievable. I mean, to average nearly eight yards per play on first down, not gonna lose a lot of football games that way. Yes, they stayed aggressive even in the waning moments up, eleven with less than three minutes remaining a lot. I would not have criticized them at all, and that's about if they said, run run, run, punt. Yeah, we're up to SCO. Here's Bill booth. Right if you're stores to, that's what you got your playing the clock at that point. And even then they said, we trust you, Blake, we're not going to lose this game the way we lost the AFC championship game because we only trust in you for a half. I'm we're not even gonna lose it because we only trust your for three and a half quarters. Bortles was the story of the game because the pats clear game plan was see, see what he can do and what he did was to me. I don't think it's over the top to call it. It's the best football game given the opponent. I've seen Blake Bortles play as a pro and people need to adjust their is to recognize what they saw yesterday. The patch were down double digits after the first quarter and never got it within single digits from that point forward that tap into Tom Brady three times in his career over for against the Steelers, low nine against the ravens and yesterday against the Jags. The reason I bring that up in that early two thousand part of the patriots era. That team that could give them trouble along with indie was the Steelers in the late two thousand offs. It was the ravens. And now the Jags the only three teams to get a double digit lead on Brady and keep it the whole game there. Now on that list, it was a dominant performance from Jack team that I thought was going to be outclassed on Sunday. Clearly the outcome surprised a lot of people. The other thing that I think surprised people was was rob gronkowski and what he wasn't able to yesterday. I think he finished her that fifteen yards or something. We talked all week about whether it was gonna be Jalen Ramsey rob gronkowski matchup, whether he'd be able to slow or even stop him. How are they able to contain grant was I had a good game plan. I think that the defensive staff of the Jags didn't get called up in the who Jalen is what he got called up in this, who are we as Jags defend because they don't go out there and talk trash. They don't go out there and say a whole bunch of stuff. They don't get personal foul. They just have one player that Jalen in the. Article, and I guess he's trying to raise his profile. So that's what we might see moving forward. He said, we're gonna play to our strength. We don't play a lot of the man to man coverage. We're going to send a lot of people at gronk, but we're not going to go out of our way in have Jalen travel with him so they can potentially pick him wearing a concentrate on the whole offense. And we're going to slow him down. But ultimately we're going to put pressure on Brady if he's not going to have a whole bunch of time to build a sit back there to build a pick it apart. So I thought the staff of Jacksonville, offensively and defensively, they put this team, which is a very, very good roster in a position where they could be successful in their game plan. And while they didn't allow it to become Ramsey v gronk hardly at all, not even in the red zone like Bart, Scott talked about. They might. I mean, they really played a true game plan apps and of the egos to it. What they did do, which Houston was not able to do that. We four into the patriots is a say to the pats, we will. Not let gronk beat us again, it's kinda the patriots thing. What do you do best? We want to take it away. We won't let grunk beat us. Let see what Jacob Hollister can do. Let's see what James white can do. Let's see. Philip door set can do and the Texans couldn't do it the week before gronk dominated that game for the patriots and lead them to the victory this week without gronk you all of a sudden saw pets team, oh, this is where they're missing out on. This is where they miss Brandin cooks. This is where maybe they missed Dion Lewis. And I brought up the Texans game couple times just because we talked after week one. We don't know what week, one games who they mean more about. Do they mean more about the one that team that lost after you saw how Houston played this week against a Blaine gabbert led titans team. You start even to look at the patriots and week one and that victory little bit differently. And you see the Jags who really both sides of the ball had an excellent game plan and executed. As well as you could have hoped for them, Nick Minchin the water Seaver is is there anything that stuck out for you that actually concerns you about this patriots team after what you saw? Or was this just a loss and they move on from it. It's just a law shift to spread it around the Jags Ray would take advantage of the offensive line. You know, they were not dominant. If you look at running the ball, the patriots long game was fifteen yards. Passing the ball, long game, twenty nine yard. So we can sit there and blame it on the wide receivers, but we don't expect to be spectacular. No, that's who Tom Brady has. That's the people. Now we give them credit when they do well against Texans oldish spread the ball out. Philip Dorsett had a career high end catches, no, this is who they are. They miss adamant because with gronk being limited and they didn't get the ball to the running backs out of the backfield as much. But you have to give Jacksonville credit. They outside why receivers for New England. We're not a threat against this Jags d and the while it doesn't show up in the box. Score because the Jags I think just had a couple of sacks and three other quarterback hurries to Chris's point about the offensive line that those numbers are where they are because Brady so good at getting it out quickly. But he was under duress. They were collapsing the pocket quickly. And so some of those offense of line questions we had for the pats coming into the season. They're great, offensive line coach, Dante scar Nekia. Notwithstanding those you started to see, okay, that's why there was a level of concern at their left tackle position. That's why there was a level of concern. Now, most teams don't have Jacksonville front and clay Campbell out their dominating people. But you saw a lot of the things that we were like about the patriots rear their head in this this week. Now, with that said, they get Detroit Miami and then that'll men's back. So at least on the receiving core, some of it will be better couple of weeks from now. Jacksonville Jaguars are to know as they beat the patriots in week two. We'll talk much more about that coming up. But on the other side, how was Dak Prescott able to right the ship with a win over the New York Giants. Next on first things. First. We're gonna get to Dak in the Cowboys in a minute, but first Jaguars ride receiver. Keelan Cole makes an unbelievable one handed cats watch it again. I mean this rampant in the NFL see that is the best one of the year. Yeah, that's that's the best one of the year. I mean, that's OB j. going down to sideline. It'll be Jay's. Now the ball's traveling furthest velocity. The ball is harder, but that was nice and then went on to have a great game. Absolutely. I mean, I laughed at the idea that he could be your number one receiver. He looked like it yesterday, credit to him Vikings Packers. Kirk cousins to Adam, feeling twenty two yards look at. It's not eighty million, but that's right. I ve already covered to. He's got a guy around his legs. He can't even step into the throat in his able to get it there. If you think the Vikings are a lot better with coast, no, no, this that's the only reason why they could come in the two point. Conversion throw was one of the like he made some great. Throws. I don't know how the safety didn't get there. That was spectacular. Finally, here, North Texas kick. Returner brewer pulls off the fake fair catch against Arkansas, then goes in ninety yards for the score. I love it. So one see, he never waved saying, what did he did? Waive his hand. All hand watches. Left-hand watching watches left hand. It doesn't get above his shoulder. Now what I'm concerned about is next week, you see that way. Learn concerned about next week. A guy does he fair catch and then a guy takes cheap shot on him, but he waved his hand hand, but he didn't get above the shoulder. And so the rest let it go. That is great. All right. Let's move onto the Cowboys in giants. Football deck Prescott and the boys called out by big blue earlier in the week to which Dak said challenge accepted and it was for the most part sure death through for just one hundred sixty yards Zeke at seventy eight yards and a touchdown on the ground. But it was the defense which came up big as Dallas gets there. First went on the year twenty two thirteen victory over the New York Giants here is that Prescott after the game. Wasn't the only one who accepted that challenge. This team accepted that offense accepted it, and we wanted to go out there and it's just show these via they just hopeless. Plain simple. You know, they came out. And they beat us. Obviously, guys are disappointed, and you know, some guy's to be frustrated. It has as we should, but we can't let that affect preparation or practices. So we got, we got a bounce back and, and you know, come back know be on the road again next week and and face a good Houston team. So you know, nothing. Nothing's get fixed, you know, by itself or complaining about, you know, stepping up and making a difference and fixing things Nick. We had real concerns about this Cowboys team from the quarterback said there hobbled line across the board, their receivers, did what you saw last night. Ease. Any of those concerns for this team in any concerns? Yes, it is. Some of them all far from it. Listen, what the Cowboys should feel best about right now is they appear to have a legitimate top ten defense that is in back to back weeks done very well for four full of quarters holding. The Panthers to sixteen the giants got thirteen, but kinda just barely like they were in single digits for the vast majority of the game down multiple scores for the vast majority of the game that field goal at the end gets them to thirteen like they, the defense looks excellent, and Zeke started to in my eyes, look more like Zeke more. But again, fifteen seventeen carries. He hasn't had the big attempts game, but it yesterday's game didn't eat any my concerns. Well, deck hundred sixty odds passing when sixty four comes on. One play like this is a guy who after those first two drives was Bart Scott math and tell me how many fifteen of twenty four for ninety six yards after that six or your complete yards. Other than the table Austin? Yes, fifteen of twenty four for ninety six yards. That's exactly four yards per attempt like, so I don't the. It was very funny. My my wife showed me this weekend from one year ago. This past Friday, an argument from a year ago that day September, thirteenth, whatever that was talking about Dak Prescott. Who was you me you and Greg Jennings is there except our seats are flipped. And Chris is adamant, Chris, I'm telling you guys, he's a game manager. The idea that he could do what it is rookie year in any system is absurd, and you were pointing your finger fired up. And I texted Chris, the video, and I said, I think you might have been correct on this argument. Like I I didn't see last night, like rookie year Dax back. No, the ice. Aw Cowboys team that took advantage of a giants team that's in huge trouble got out to an early lead ally had no time and the defense played great. And. Dak did didn't make any mistakes, but that wasn't to me a great quarterbacking performance by number four for the Dallas Cowboys. Remember the Baltimore Ravens when they had to mall Lewis. Yeah, and not the two thousand yard season, but just an offense was down. He was the focal point, Jonathan Ogden. All right, tackle they had a quarterback managed the game mad, a top five defense Dow's has a chance to be in that because they got very good personnel. Rod Marinelli is doing a tremendous job as far as the scheme, getting guys in position to make a play. The only problem with Dallas's people don't want them to be a dominant defensive team. It's not sexy like, you know, they want the high flying scoring. No, they're not going to be that. So if you change how you look at them and their scope and you say, well, what if that was Jacksonville who want a game like that last night you'd be happy. You've been like, wow, yeah, that's how Jacksonville. Win games. But if they start off the game with the, the theme that we're going to choke teams out, we're going to be a defense oriented team get after the quarterback force turnovers, hold the other team down in check and our quarterbacks going to manage it will get a little bit ahead in the passing game. And then later on we'll run the ball to eat up the clock. Yeah, then this great game, but I just don't think Dallas in their fan base is willing to say, you know, no, no, we're, we're an offense of driven team. We got the star on our helmet. We're going to be a little bit sexier than what we are, but man Dax game manager, and there's nothing wrong with that. But after that big play, that's the Dallas offense that we're starting to get used to seeing. We saw it in four quarters and Carolina. We saw it for three quarters in this game. So in seven quarters of football out of eight, they just have not been over to affectively throw to football, and that was by the way without the giants getting -ffective pass, rush. Also like it's not like Dak was constantly under duress and it's not like at least I don't feel the giants have shutdown corners. I mean, Jack rabbit got burnt by tailbone Austin, but they end lane and cons an excellent safety, but I don't look at the Cowboys is I think on their defense, their weakest part is I'm sorry, I, I got my the giants. Pardon me? The weakest part of their defense is their secondary committed the front, and you still couldn't get an effective passing game going. So I just I don't. I don't think you solved anything there. Let's turn and sort of see what the Dallas Cowboys were up against this giants offense of supposed to be, you know, putting out there all these new weapons they have. We were finally going to see saquon Barkley wrong. We're gonna see what Dell can do, and it just felt like they just stalled across the board and weren't able to get anything done. How concerned were you with this giants offense? See, I'm not concerned at all because I told new, that's going to be my thing. I told Nick that offense of line regardless of money. They spend on this is not a good offensive line. There's not going to be a good offense of line. It's going to be hard to run the ball, but you can be a good running back, but you can't run when you can't find a whole. If you look at the other Todd Gurley the one year he had an off year was when offense of line there for the Rams was not very, very good. People talk about ill bell, what he doesn't Pittsburgh, it's their scheme, but also their offense of line. They provide holes Zeke there in Dallas. They provide whole, you need to be able to get the running back to the second level. You need to get him through the line of scrimmage, and with the giants too many free runners in the backfield too many guys, you have to void before you get back to the line of scrimmage. So no, I'm not surprised at all. They'll be able to throw the ball some, but this offense of line it lies go and take a pound in this year because this offense of line is not going to be good. I'm not overreacted. I didn't think they were going to be good, and I knew the money that they're left tackle would not be able to cure all the woes that they have. Well, it's, they got a double problem, which is one the left tackle is not performing level. They had hoped that they're paying for. But the other one is the left guard that will Hernandez. The guy they draft in the top of the second round is playing like a rookie interior offense of Lyman who is struggling mightily that's not even to mention Eric flowers. But if they if this team, if if the problem is the offense of line is too bad for them to be able to even get into what they want to do. Ofensive -ly then you can't look at what they did this offseason as the right course of action through the draft. If the fact of the matter is too often line so bad, the number two overall pick running back, can't get going, then you can't take the number two overall pick running back. The offense of line is so bad. You also have the draft capital in real capital. You throw the money at Nate sold or you bring him in, you move flowers over to his natural position right tackle. So you already have a lot of money and resources already committed to that offensive line. That doesn't mean it's going to work out like. We can wait every game that the giants aren't successful. It's we could easily say they should have drafted a quarterback. The giants were going to be rebuilding that offense of line and you can't replace one player and Bill do that solar Hernandez, what did he do? Well, in college. He was in the box, nasty type of guy. What type of game plan are they giving them where he can take advantage of the tools that he has. So it takes a long time and it takes multiple ski multiple players on offense to repair how bad that offense of limewood sure. See. But when I say the offseason I'm not just talking about saquon in the draft. I'm what I'm saying is in the off season to to your point your theme, right? I told you, you said this is not gonna fix their offense line. They operated the entire offseason like they thought that was short up. We're going to compete right now that is part of moving flowers over that is part of signing a guy that you thought from the moment happened was overpaid. It's their job to let the baseline have the knowledge that you do when they're making their free agency decisions. Like yesterday, the giants. I mean saquon had fourteen catches for eighty yards. That's the fewest in NFL history. How long they've been playing CC ninety ninety nine years. No one has ever. That many catches for that few yards to have that those type of dynamic playmakers. And I don't know if this is on the offense coordinator, Pat Shurmur, but have saquon Odell and a athletic tied in on ally. All talked about the line a lot. How much of that do you put on manning? He's not blocking them. I mean, Eli was running for his life. If if this wasn't a divisional game, they infecting one more time I would've thrown into tau like what's allies to do like how good was supposed to be in that game. I'm, I'm one of the most I, I mean, I'm in the critic at this point in his career. I can't put yesterday on him yesterday. He was the reason he was checking down every time is because he didn't have time. He missed del once on a double move to the end zone. But aside from that, like I didn't see week one ally missed guy. We saw missing guys when he did have time. I didn't see that yesterday yesterday. I did see him under constant duress, and then they were not able to scheme their playmakers open. So I I'm not hesitant to criticize Eli. Yes. Today, I don't think is on him. All right. This was the Cowboys over the giants. We'll talk a much more about this, but on the other side, Patrick Mahomes look in unstoppable in his first two weeks apply. That's next on first things. First. All right time. Now for stores to start your morning, one of the more bizarre NFL stories, bills cornerback, vantera Davis retired at halftime of the game against the chargers. Literally just walked away from the game during the game. He later put out a statement saying, I shouldn't be out there anymore. Nick. What was your reaction to this conquers Carter? Chris Carter. What was what was the question to ask me at halftime of this game? Or wouldn't we found out about what he was doing at halftime? He decided to do it before teaming when they went out for the third quarter, he stayed in there. He wanna wait around like he wasn't going to be like a man's been good plan with you guys after the game? No. 'cause they would've looked they would be that would, yeah. That's not your normal office space with someone just decides to quit. I've never seen anything license said to me. Did he used their soap after he decided to retire direction? Absolutely. Used the hot water like you already quit. Like, why are you trying to use the possibilities. Ivanka security guard don't walk him to his core three quarters, eight Peterman three-quarters, Nate Allen. He said, I'm dumbing football for advert. Sam darnold came back down to earth and week two. That's where the rest of us live darnold threw for three engined thirty four yards. A touchdown and two picks including one in the end zone in a loss to the Miami Dolphins. Snick your thoughts on darnold and week to get used to this part of his game jets fans. It was excellent week. One came back from the turnover, but a guy who had twenty plus turnovers. His last year USC is not going to magically fix that. His first year in the NFL especially starting from game one eight. This doesn't shake my faith that he can be a high level quarterback in this league. But this you're gonna have days like this darnold turnovers cost to your best chance to win. It doesn't kill my confidence in. You're gonna have plenty of days like this. Also. We might look back in November and December and be like the Miami Dolphins are better football team tonight. Expect it. I called her game last week against the titans. I believe they're one of those four or five teams. It will be much improving two thousand eighteen. So. Combination of rookie going against the team, I believe to be improved. I'm moving on. Andrew luck on his first. One of the season threw for two touchdowns and two picks at twenty one to nine win over Washington. See, what did you make of Andrew locks performance this? What we want to see? We don't see Andrew out there. You can't throw. The two picks. One got bad at everything because they're not just going to be able to overcome it, but he's going to be one of the best quarterbacks that we have in the league. He's still got some rust, so I wouldn't be surprised if he just struggled a little bit early, but winning getting your team on the winning bus last week came up a little bit. Short, going against Cincinnati was able to get doesn't big win for him. He's been out of football, right? Big win for him into big win for the colts. Also that Washington, we made their week. One dominating win against Zona more about them. After you see Arizona, it looks like maybe that was more about Arizona's being Washington. Adrian, Adrian Peterson, I think you had eleven carries for twenty one yards. That's that's prising but luck. I'm glad he got through another game healthy. The picks. Were bad, but they won by double digits, brutal brutal loss for the Browns. Zane Gonzales, miss two extra points and two field goals, including one to tie it at the end regulation. The Browns are now winless in nineteen straight games. Sorry, Hugh Nick hats off a loss is this. I mean, only the Browns could get a four and five down six forty, five yard touchdown, strike with a minute left and losing regulation. That seems like a riddle. And they, I mean, they had chance after chance I felt. I mean, Zane Gonzalez's is I mean, he'll get cut, I assume today and I don't know who's going to pick them up. I felt terribly for the guy, but that's what happens. They had every opportunity beat New Orleans and couldn't make it form. I was feeling people lose their job man, especially guys that I don't think are going to get that job back. I always feel badly. I understand your feelings or your problem. That's Chris Carter motto. I have a little more empathy, but I've also never lost retired. He's retired. After the game, give them a right back to Cleveland and, and that's it. He's got at one job. That's the king. Forget about the the field goals. What about the extra point? You extra? Did they open up the dome New Orleans? No, no, they didn't indoors. No, he he's, he's done. He's got to. You got to get rid of them. Look at their Saturday. They cut their white receiver, Josh Gordon before they get on the plane. The team was shocked by this. They go down there play well enough to win the game the second week in a row against two playoff teens, and they come away what zero watt and once. Yeah, no Gonzales. Got to go final bad. The Rams got a dominant win over the cardinals yesterday. Todd Gurley scored three times all the defense pitched a shutout in a thirty four. Nothing route seat is the Rams. Are the best team in the NFL or is it their competition? Right now, the Rams are the though the team I wouldn't want to face if it was a single nation. I wouldn't wanna face them because I believe it's harder to get ready for them. I believe they have less weaknesses than other teams. When you can score points the way they can score points by not going to one person, it makes it complicated. So you put pressure on that defense already put pressure on the posing offense that turn. You can't turn the ball over and you have to build to make big plays. The Rams are who we thought they were going to be there. An exciting football team. The quarterback is getting better. They can f-r-o-t-h a ball, they can run it. They got a good offensive line. The one weakness is just perimeter pass rushes. They don't have an elite pass rusher. They got good players, but just not great was they got great ones on the inside, but can they get a constant pass rush from the outside? That's the only question Mark that I see on this team is in the second game. Jared Goff has looked. Like year to Jared Goff, and I've been saying if he plays at that level. Yeah, this is the best team in the NFL like they have. They the aside from that exterior pass rusher to good point by CC, but they have. I mean, they have a plus players at so many. They've plus running back in a wide receiver and cokes good complementary receivers and Cooper Cup and Robert woods. They have an a, an a minus corner and Peter's and a keep to leave an a plus linemen in Aaron Donald. Andrew, Whitworth was an all pro last year. That's their left tackle like you and I think excellent. Schematic advantages, yelling, Wade, Phillips on defense in Sean McVay on offense that you would think that someone couldn't match Sean McVay because what he's doing offense, and I believe he's really, really special people giving him a lot of tension, everything for his memory, but you memories no good. If you don't have the type of talent that you can orchestrate the way he's doing the play action, pass the creativity in Brandon. Cook added to this offense. It's amazing how much better he is than mentioned and Sammy Watkins all and how they're taking advantage of where he wasn't New England is is if McVeigh talked to Josh mcdaniels and said, I'm going to pick up right where he, he was starting to get hot. If he doesn't get knocked out of the Super Bowl, I believe New England winds in the way he played the last eight games of the season pick right up there in Los Angeles there with the Rams. The only question Mark about this Rams team was how their worst now is. We're gonna mash if they were able to, if Wade Phillips can control everybody in so far, it's been quiet. Infinite listen, if they're winning, that's not going to be a problem at all. Like. Regardless. We haven't heard any rumblings or anything from the most talented players. People talk about what about locker room? Chemistry me. Give me good. We'll work it out. You think that chiefs whenever talk about would would want more because Peter's back giving what their defense looking like in by the way. One other note from this game, Josh Rosen might be the next rookie quarterback to get a start soon. Sam, Bradford looks he. He looked bad as you can look and NFL game yesterday and their their season since we get away from all ready. So my guess is this week we'll talk about Josh Rosen starting soon stressed about last year's bone. Same night taking south, hey, let's talk chief since Steelers. Kansas City was looking for the first one in Pittsburgh in thirty years. Patrick Mahomes was going to need to play a near perfect game in order for that to happen. And he did six touchdown passes. He's now got ten in two games that's an NFL record as the chiefs beat. The Steelers on the road Mahomes throwing more touchdown passes than incompletions yesterday, not bad for a quarterback in his. Third NFL start here is after the game, you never expected to have ten touchdowns at this point in the season, but I knew what this offense and the weapons that we had in the scheme coach ridge drawing up that we had a chance to be really, really good and that the possibilities are. I mean, they're endless. I mean, we could really come out every single we can do then score points. It's all about me getting the ball into those playmakers hands and you saw today, they're breaking tackles and scoring points. Cici talked me a little about Patrick Mahomes how much of it was the adrenaline and being there and playing the Steelers and how much of it was, hey, he's a really good guy who's gonna make some stakes just hasn't made that many in the first two week skew. It has nothing to do with the German. It's all skill. Randy read has put him in position even from a confidence standpoint because it's one thing to say guy has a big arm, but then how do I call the game? Got sixty plays sixty. Five plays. Do I doubt forty runs because that's what he said about McNab earliest McNabb is talented, probably one of the most talented throws of ever had. But earlier in the game plans, they ran the ball forty times only letting throw a little bit based on how he's called and lets me know what confidence Andy Reid has them everyone. These highlight I can tell you a textbook reason why right here to hunt. It was a hot read, so he throws it over linebacker. Gives him the one on one right here. Yes. The white sea outside leverage on the db. He's gotta throw it. Hi, right here has got the. Linebacker, breathe thought his back shoulder every throw. The key was make. He was textbook. Where do you want the football, Kelsey, going down the same guy here linebacker coming your thought back here in the middle of field. We hits Kelsey, low, going into Enzo all these things. No, that's not a German. No, that's not. You can see when he sees a guy open or he feels a guy's going to be open. He lets the ball go. So he has a great deal of confidence. I believe I told Nick this. He'll never play with type of personnel that he's playing with now and Andy Reid. I think this is the most talented team that he put even when they had McNabb and t, oh, they didn't have four or five other guys with the type of speed. This is a four by one track team, though everybody on the team. If you look at sparked scores at the combine that basically just pure athleticism. That's who the chiefs draft him for five years. Chris Conley, their number three receiver go look at his vertical leap. Go look at his sparks core yesterday. Pittsburgh tried to. We're not going to punt tyreek hill where frayed of his speed Danta Thomas is the upback of a track star at Oregon? Yeah, art is. We attract start Oregon, he he gets the ball there and he takes it fifty yards to open the game not to the end zone, but the red zone. I listen that Pat will Pat Mahomes make mistakes. Of course he will, but take the young quarterback out of it. How many quarterbacks have ever had more than ten touchdowns in the first two games, nobody. He, he just passed Peyton Manning's record. Payton had nine in the first two weeks, but that was the your Payton had seven in week one. It's up to start. They the chiefs for years ago when all season long without a touchdown pass to wide receiver that happened, and that's wasn't terrible. They was dinks Dunxin Travis Kelsey, and they already afford it. Wide receivers touchdown passes. They got seven guys that have caught touchdown passes. I know we talk a lot about will all will deepen to catch up to young quarterbacks. What Chris pointed out. They'll be a regression, I'm sure, but it's hard to catch up to perfectly thrown perfectly. Timed sharp. Passes that as you were talking about, they don't. They don't say, I mean, he's throwing them on a line this he, I don't know if it's the year of watching. Andy Reid deserve a lot of credit, the skill position guys, but Pat Mahomes as in his third career start, she started week seventeen. Last year looks as sharp and not gimmicks. It's it doesn't even feel like the three important, right? That's important that. Why you'd know it can be duplicated. It's pure NFL. Now they did have a couple touch passes. We're going to see on the speed sweep. I wouldn't say that part. That's that's a main part of pro football now, but that's the only thing that you can say like on that may be inflated numbers or they trick people know they're going to be able to do this that I mean they remind me a lot of the ninety eight Vikings and the two thousand Vikings ninety eight. We know because Randall Cunningham and the record, but in two thousand Dante Culpepper took over after being a young quarterback light Mahomes and we put up some numbers like they're put they're putting. They reminded me of the ninety nine ramps as far as fat, like skill position guys everywhere. I mean you obviously the Vikings analogy is a great one, but I just and cream hunts not Marshall Faulk, but he's a guy who can catch out of the back. Is it Bruce and Torry Holt? I mean, we haven't even mentioned the name, Sammy Watkins. If Sammy Watkins is just a nice additional complementary piece. I mean that is I mean, the defense is what did I said on? I said, gonna win the game. There were thirty eight points because they hold pits. We're going to thirty five. They spent forgot thirty seven and the this football we didn't even mentioned kilson know who was dominant Jay. He's a good player that says a lot. He not only played well, he beat a Steelers team where this franchise hadn't won there in so many years. So what that does for the conference of a young player has to be huge. Go good. I was. I was going to say on Pittsburgh for move on you. Got, you. Got to keep in mind. They gave up what forty two points the Jags in their playoff game. They now just gave a forty two to the chiefs. Those are both games in Pittsburgh. I I, they still not. They seemingly haven't recovered from the Shazia injury as far as that was good until Ryan shazier got hurt last year. The last five weeks last year it was bad. And the first couple of weeks this year. I know Cleveland only scored twenty one, but they, I mean, Pittsburgh's defense is a real concern. Joe Haden without in that was the problem. Huge problem. I gotta take a break coming up to bogus call, costs the Packers win over the Vikings. That's next. This is the first things first. Back here. First things. First former NFL head coach, Chuck Pagano joins the show they coach catava back came in, you went lot of football. Lot to break down and discuss. Well, let's start with this one. Nothing says NFL football quite like a tie. We got one last week. We got one this week Vikings Packers. Yes, Aaron Rodgers played. Yes. This one was as good as advertised after questionable. Roughing. The passer called on clay Matthews, nullified a Kirk cousins interception with less than two minutes to go. Cousins found Stefan digs to force overtime. Now their team could score bit of a heartbreak for the Vikings at least twenty nine, twenty nine. Was your final coach. Let's start with the Packers. How should they feel after this tight, especially when we weren't sure what we were gonna see from Aaron Rodgers. What a gritty performance. First of all my Byron Rogers coming out didn't practice all week and speculation that he wasn't going to play, but gritty performance. I'm both teams are sitting there had plenty opportunities to win this game. You know, Packers out ahead. You get the call twenty two point scored by the Vikings in the fourth quarter of great comeback. Unbelievable. Throwing catch to feeling point was was phenomenal. You know, they're both one on one. It's really early in the season. So from a standing standpoint and the division lot of football left, obviously, we'll see, you know how it comes into play late as far as the Tigers we. Now, these teams won't be the tiebreaker won't come into play between them at the end of the year because one of them's going to win, we would imagine the game in Minnesota. And so that'll determine that if they finish with the same record, but it's what we're the Packers are. Men a-rod took a lot of punishment to not come away with victory. Like I mean, he got sacked four times hit another nine. It seemed like he was constantly under duress. You could see he was not quite himself. Now. He's still played very well. But as far as when you saw him running, he didn't look like the earn Raj. We're used to. But I, I mean, I will give a ton of credit to the Vikings offense. I expected the Vikings defense to look like the Vikings defense, but this was us. You alluded to during the highlight, see this, why you go get Kirk cousins, Kirk cousins, so he can. You can be trailing. Digits in the fourth quarter which they were, and you can throw yourself back into the football game missed opportunity for Green Bay. And I understand the agenda they have from the the call clay Matthews when they thought the game was over. But Kirk cousins played a hell of a football game, especially in the second half. This was a good football game. And from two teams, we expect later in the season to be there. You bring up the point. Why do you go get Kirk cousins? So when you get in the game like this, you need a guy in. You can tell the difference, nothing against Sam, Bradford nothing against case, but you can tell the level bit. Kurt brings taken advantage of all the personnel spread the ball around and being in a dual where you can actually forget about the running game. You can rely on the quarterback. That's not a luxury that the Vikings had before. People will talk about the call because that's what we do in NFL. One call that it changed the arc of the game, whether the interception and it was. Late, but the referee, Tony Carinthia he called one earlier on Eric kendricks in the game that was the same type of call. We're going to have these every week. It's been a point of emphasis as far as the quarterback landing on him. What you do is your head off to the side ways your weight on him? Yes, it was a controversial call, but to me it wasn't the biggest thing in this game. It was a great match up enough. See north ended in a tie. We haven't had ties in weeks one and we do ten minute overtime is affecting. They brought that in last year. Remember like that if people the overtime used to be fifteen minutes to ten minutes, I think that leads to one of these ties the first to which the year you know, you brought up a good point about Aaron Rodgers and whether not whether it was worth it, but whether he took too big of a beating to just walk away with the Thai, do you go back and look and think now say, was it the right move was not roof to not walk away with a win. Well, regardless, I mean, you're gonna you're going to play that guy and what a warrior. He is. You hate it for a young kicker, like Carlson to go out there and have opportunities and and miss. You know, missed three field goals. They did have a chance to to steal this game. They did have a chance to go to own in division which is a, which is a huge thing, huge thing, playoff implicate, all those kind of things. But you know, the game came down to the way it came down to, and again, bowl teams, head opportunities to to win that thing. It didn't work out. So you go back, you got to watch the tape make corrections and you got to move on. And the reason why you don't regret it coaches because the athlete didn't get hurt. He didn't have a setback. You'd like to build a win the game. And I believe in plain them, it helped bring balance to their offense. They ran the ball twenty four times. And the reason why was because Aaron Rodgers was hurt, so I believe it will pay dividends. He didn't have a setback, he'll probably be ready. For next week and the philosophy. We need to balance this thing out. I believe if they take that forward, it was benefiting them in a half game is a half game because if he doesn't play, you lose, you got no chance lose and you're down in that Tiber because I was wearing up earlier. So that that that part is important. I called you on and move onto a player that you coach with the colts cornerback vantera Davis. He retired at halftime of the bills game against the chargers like literally just walked away from the game during the game later, put out a statement, saying, quote, I shouldn't be out there anymore. Here's his teammate, Lorenzo Alexander afterwards. Never seen it ever pop mourner, high-school college pros, never heard of it. Never seen it and it's just completely disrespecting went to his teammate, I. What did you make of this when you read about when you heard about it? Disbelief, I was in, I was in shock. You know, I spent a lot of time with vantera. We shared a lot of great moments together. I've seen this guy play at at the highest level. You know, I, I'm not in that man shoes. I don't trade for him. Yes, we did. You trade it for and also to twelve from the dolphins? Yeah. You putting in the most. I mean, dependable situation. He was traveling around at his best when he made the Provo, you had him garden the best receiver. So he's a guy that you had a lot of respect a lot of confidence in a lot of responsibility. Yeah, no doubt about it. And again, it's timing is everything timing on this one obviously is it's a head scratcher, but this good kid again, I don't know where he's at physically where he's at emotionally. You hate to see this for that organization to bills right now sitting at Owen to they, they don't need the distraction eight in need this, obviously. But you know, I wish the best for this kid, you know, moving forward. And if he's done with football, which he, which he probably is at this point, I think that's obvious. That's a mute point. But again, I, it's, it's hard. Listen. We've guys. Retire midseason often we've seen some great players go in with another team. Realize this is is I'm not as good as I thought I was at my body's shape. It's the fat. If he had retired today. I don't think anyone, it's not a story. I mean, it's a story for the bills, but it's listen. This guy that gave five million dollars this off season. It's contracts guaranteed played a couple of games, realize I don't have it. Maybe they try to claw some of that money back, but it's the during the gain that makes this huge story. Like see the bills weren't going to win this game meat, either way. But what is what? How does that message filter throughout the team in the second half and how does that affect other guys on the team? I mean it it doesn't filter at all because the one thing that we say, even the players, the coaches, we detach ourselves from the front office. It's like, it's us like we're in this together. And if you depend on nothing else, you can depend on me as your brother and. It's just not something we've ever seen before. I've seen guys could at training camp. I seen guys come in at lunch, Turney room keys in turn a playbook and say, this is not for me, but we just don't see veteran players guys who have made a lot of money off this business because there's a way to do things, and I don't want a guy out there if his mind is not into it. So I do have a little bit of understanding. I don't want you out there for thirty minutes. People would say, well, why didn't you wait till after the game with someone can really get hurt? If you don't have your mind in the right place if you're not sold out to what you need to do for your body and for your teammates? No, he shouldn't be out there. I would have thought that he got thirty minutes football left any and then he can quit today. Well, even into tell me if I'm wrong, even if he realizes I can't be out there. He can go. I would imagine to the coaches and say, I can't play anymore today, like kill fine. Me whatever it is I can't, but that that. It's different than putting on your street clothes, showering showering, drink lows, and leave in during the football. And I'm just going to say this and, and I'm a Kevin love and what he did this year. Totally different circumstance as far as him struggling within Zaidi man, we don't know what people are going through. We think we're sitting on our couch like, man, these guys got a glamorous job, man. There's some ugly parts to football and the my last year plan in Miami, and I got my kidney and my kidney was only working twenty percent. I passed through to me Tyrone hit me and I wish I could quit later on. That's not drop the touchdown for us to potentially send us into the playoffs against the Vikings in Metrodome me chop the easy touchdown. Pam, and I wish I could acquit mentoring no easy way to get out of this business. But I do respect. I don't know where he was mentally and for him to be shutdown corner and for him to decide at halftime. I don't want to be there. I'm going to try to respect his mental state also, even though I'm upset at the decision he made, yeah, there's no doubt about it. And I think he wakes up obviously this morning and he saying, you know what? Doing just what you're saying. Should've finished shouldn't let my brothers down. It's a brotherhood and you know that first and foremost in that locker room, you know, I finished the game and then go about your business, but you're right. We don't know where he's had physically where he's mentally. I always believe this man like a carpenter. I like to sign off on my work every day. Like, would you do? I did that. What is too high? Five for eighty? Would you do now? He can't sign off on network. You can sign off on that right there unless there was something really going on his head. You can't sign off on and every day. That's what I try to pry my phone. I'm a sign off on the work that I did in that right there that what he signed off on and it's just not for player for for player. Like you said, proble player guy, shutdown corner, it's time now this is his. Football epitaph like, this is what he will. 'cause he wasn't a great player that he had a legacy quote unquote beforehand, if people Monty Davis and people remember in five years. Oh, the guy that quit during the game, that's brutal. That were totally you spent a lifetime building up this and one decision? Yes, sir. Can tear down in heartbeat, stick around more to discuss coming up house. Blake, Bortles able to outduel Tom Brady next on first things. First. Back here. First things first with coach, Ghana coach, one of the biggest surprises of the weekend Jags and pats rematch of last year's ABC title game. But in name only while the patriots got the best of Blake Bortles last year it was quite a different story. Last night, Tom Brady couldn't get it done Bortles throwing four touchdowns three hundred seventy seven yards in the Jaguars win Brady did at two hundred and thirty four yards and two touchdowns in the patriots loss. Here he is after the game. News to a better job, and then I was not certainly our best effort know, give them a lot of credit. They played good. You know, they make it tough on on our offense defense and you know, we can never string a place together. I coach, how did the patriots lose this game? Those gray win, obviously for Jacksonville. And I think first and foremost, they got off to a fast start. You know, they jump out to a twenty one, three lead at half the quarterback Bortles. We just talked about him. He played announced, ending football game, four touchdown passes. I think only one turn over three hundred seventy seven yard make great decisions. Got the ball spread around. He was phenomenal. The defense obviously did a great job holding gronk to catches fifteen yards, you know, and then you know, all the criticism that they took in the AFC championship game about getting conservative. You know, they kept the foot on on a gas and they stayed aggressive, and that's why they came away with twin. All credit in the world to the Jacksonville Jaguars who even though Vegas had this is a pick em game. Essentially I thought the pats were going to come in and remind everyone. We're the best team in the AFC Jacksonville, despite all the great story of last year was at ten win team in at the time a week division. I thought we going to be a resetting. Of who's who in the AFC and maybe wasn't resetting. But in the opposite direction that I expected that the Jags out patriot the patriots. The Jags did the score before half get the ball score right after half for a ten point swing. The Jags looked at the pats and said, what do you want to do? What do you do best? Oh, pass rob gronkowski. We are taking that away and seeing if you can beat us with your being see stuff and the patriots couldn't the Jags also most notably coach makes a great point learned from their mistakes. Last year against this team and said, if we lose, it's not going to be because we stopped being aggressive. They were aggressive up to an including up eleven with two and a half minutes left throwing the football as opposed to just playing the clock. Bortles played the best big game. I've ever seen him play keeling. Coal took the insult that he'd been getting league wider in media-wide as far as Jags got no number one receiver made the catch of the year and some huge plays. I. Cannot complement Jacksonville highly enough about how they played start to finish in this football game. I last week's conversation, Nick, you pointed out a couple of times during the press conference. You're like a Chris New England said, this is a big game. Do you? I was like, I'll take note of. And then on Thursday, Friday Brady said, it was a big game. Grunk said it was a big game. Brady said it was a big game. So this is not as if New England will surprise by Jacksonville, they know what's going on in divall county. They realized the personnel and they have a lot of respect for him and for them to do that after you know, New England had a great deal of focus on them to me, that's a credit to Jacksonville and something they should be able to move on going forward. But they're coaching staff being aggressive in their play. Cone, their ability to build a throw a ball on first down nineteen times on first down, they decided to throw almost sixty percent of the time and thirteen times Bortles because it's something have a game plan coach, but. Guys don't execute it. Blake was able to get them and get the ball to the to the offense of weapon to build a take advantage, two things about New England's defense that you should know Logan, Ryan, the corner he can be had their linebackers in man-to-man have never been good. So if you play all that man to man and you can get the ball to your running back to your tidy and take advantage of their lack of coverage skill at their linebacker position. That is the recipe to try to beat New England. Last time, these two teams played. The one knock on Jackson was that they weren't aggressive. They came out in the second half and they kind of relied on that that lead they had in that was the end of it. And then dog Marrone heard about this all off season long. How much of that as a player or as a coach, sort of sticking like yours, you remember the last time you played at team and they can talk all we can game plan all off season, but you remember who they were, who you thought they were the last time he played his that factor in at all to the patriots off the Jags. We're going to do no doubt about it because you're gonna look at everything that you. You did in in the season two thousand seventeen and you're gonna make the corrections and you're gonna say, okay, look, we're one of the top teams in the they got a great roster. They're playing a physical brand of football. You know, with Tom Coughlin there in Doug Marrone. Got great respect for both of those coaches, Doug doing a great job, but they out physical in the trenches, we always say, hey, you got to be able to run the football and stop the run to win a National Football League. And I know it's becoming a passing league and I know people are in three wides like sixty five seventy percent of the time now, but yelled five point eight per carry. I think they held a New England three point four yards per carry. And I know they got behind a little bit and they had to throw it a catch up and probably got away from the run game. But this official tough athletic fast football team that, like you said, Bortles he's playing for all the stuff he's been through. Yes, and all the joke he's taking. I mean, the criticism that he's taken over the last four, five years. This guy's playing lights out and the pats game plan was clearly did. Not change with the news. Four net was not going to play. They played the Jags as if for net was back there and they thought that was gonna get thirty carries right. They were jamming the box, almost the entire game, daring. Blake Bortles to beat them and the Jags pivoted intelligently. One other note for the patriots. You mentioned slow linebackers. Logan. Ryan can be had week one that d- line in the front looked very good. They were playing one of if not the worst offensive line in football in Houston. We do. They're playing Jacksonville team that by the way during the game lost their left tackle, but they sell of Andrew norwell. They're big free agent acquisition that often blinds on the streets. Their team and Bortles was clean. The whole game New England could not even pretend to fabricate a pass, rush that now we're on at least moderate concerns for New England defensively at all three levels. Can they get a pass rush? Do they have speed it linebacking core? And do they have a corner other than stuff on Gilmore that you actually believe in those are all things. Watch how many questions. We've seen these guys in this predict the point. Let's not write off the patch. No, don't thank you for listening to the first things. 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Hour 2: Fitzmagic, Davis, Canelo-GGG

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Hour 2: Fitzmagic, Davis, Canelo-GGG

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Yeah, I borrowed your stuff. Sorry. This is hilarious. I would never looking. He's a Margaret grad looking like Conor McGregor. It is so good. Stephen a. should the books be done with James now? No, no, they shouldn't be done with him permanently, but they should be done within for the season Ryan Fitzpatrick the way that he's baller right now. This is not going to last. Let me be clear. He's completing seventy. Eight percent of this passes. He's throw for eight hundred and nineteen yards within the first two games with eight touchdowns and he's ran for another. Okay, so I I'll look at it from that perspective. He's only thrown one the -ception. So I'm looking at that and I'm saying that's not going to last. I mean drew Brees has done at Tom Brady has done it has he's not going to do it. He's never done that in this career for my God. Right now. It was two games in and you have to sit up there and say, who's the leading candidate for league MVP right now, it would definitely be a two-horse race between him and Patrick Mahomes because of the way that Ryan Fitzpatrick is bowling. He deserves a lot of credit that little video that we're laughing at. And it was a sterile. That is a big reason also why you don't make the changes. You see guys, first of all, he's flinging the football in these playing well, and he's plan affectively, but congrats chemistry matters. And when you're in a quarterback and cats are loving you and they're playing for you, that matters particularly when you're a grown man. Okay. Who's been in the league for while he's thirty five years of age. Okay. And and the alternative is a young cat on the come up. Watt still believed in and I believe is the future of this ranch. What might be to sit his behind down for the year even when he does come back and watch a professional, be Abril going out there, not just playing affectively what big moments max Damian, but I'm talking about doing your job. You got grown men out there. Paying mortgages feeding kids. You say they got families to take tougher nonsense and being distracted and having a few. Just potentially compromise because you find yourself in bad situations. So when you come back, of course of Ryan Fitzpatrick is playing like garbage, you know, James Winston, you put him right back in there, but with the ways playing you don't disrupt it. But more importantly, Patrick Ryan Fitzpatrick is the Khanna God with the of personality that it went great shave himself with you as he has done with those players. And in fairness to Jameis Winston, I do believe James Winston as a team player, and I do believe he's the kind of guy that would be supportive of the situation for the moment because of what's happening. Look. He's an, he's suspended. You know why? Because of his behavior off the field and Ryan's a recidivist. It's constant with James Winston, I see zero growth in that area. Here's a distraction by the way, maybe criminal, right? But certainly at least a distraction off the field that is, that's just the way it is. Some of these accusations about I, if they were true. That makes them actually a bad guy, but at the very least he is a constant distraction who does not seem to learn dating back to his college days when I used to defend them about that. Well, I don't know. You know, the first kind of stories come out. You go look, a lot of rush to judgment. Let the facts come out. It's incident after incident with him, showing the best you can say is very poor judgment. So so off the field is improving know how about on the field? Is he showing signs of real improvement? No, I don't think so. I don't think he's that good. I mean, he's okay. I don't think he's that good. And I suppose there's potentially as a big arm. He has certain leadership qualities. It does seem like he can rally the team and stuff. But in fact, the reason I said to Sean Jackson should go to Tampa member. We all pick the wish Sean Jaguars at Tampa. You put them with Evans, and then they draft OJ. Howard is supposed to be a generational tight end all my gosh. Should you imagine you got the fifty fifty guy. You get the, you've got to get behind the defense guy. You got the tight end. Oh my God. What can James Winston do with that? And the answer was not much it were okay. And maybe James Winston numbers were only okay kind of middle of the pack because he had these incredible offensive weapons because let me tell you something Ryan. Fitzpatrick's not a great quarterback in certain seasons. He can be a good one and he's having a moment. I think he's having the moment of his career right now in a career where he's had moments. There've been other moments Ryan Patrick, you're like, oh, wait. He might actually be good and he's certainly not bad. And Steven, I agree with you. This Harvard dude looks like Conor McGregor gets up to the podium. You know, you're messing with his wide receiver. It's good for chemistry. He seems like a good guy like guys would wanna play with them, but we know what he is. He's fine. He's a solid quarterback, but that's it. It's the weapons on this team. All you need is a solid quarterback and look what happens and Jameis Winston, I don't believe that. And pretty soon you're gonna have to pay him like a franchise quarterback by I. I'd try and get what it could form right now. First of all, let me say, you know, when the when the whole before the whole suspension came down with James, I was I was the one that came on sale. I thought the buccaneers should should cut him a move on, but they're clearly does look like the situation right now. So with that being moving forward, let's you gotta stick with Ryan Fitzpatrick right now, we've seen the script from Ryan Fitzpatrick said on this show, you know last week or so they've Ryan patriots. Probably the most streaking is play in the National Football League. He's gonna have moments where he looks incredible where he's going to be in great shape. What the teammates. There's no question about that. Here there. What the jets when the jets would ten and six. Unfortunately, the last, the very last we could see the week seventeen. He potent against the Buffalo Bills which caused the jets not to be in the playoff. But we've seen this script Ryan Fitzpatrick. He has a bunch of weapons on that Tampa Bay offense. So he's putting a big numbers. But if you're the Tampa Bay Buccaneers moving forward, you, you don't get rid of your your twenty four think it's twenty four years twenty four twenty four year old quarterback, Liz. You gotta at some point, we know Ryan Fitzpatrick gonna come down to earth and you're going to have evaluate whether this guy is going to be the long term question for your own with Dan, Jamie and your organization, organization metaphor. Listen. The point is not. Why would they need. Patrick is good or the future. The point is he's just, okay, so you can see what an okay quarterback and do with these weapons. James can't even do that. It's not about. Maxine mass. He had his best year in his career. Last year, you're talking about a twenty four year old player that's still ascending. He's twenty four Nazaryan's badgers a lot older. A lot of different been in the law. Okay guy in Mexico New acts. He actually went from completed fifty eight to sixty to sixty two percent of his passes over the three years. He's been in the NFL that's number one. Number two. And more importantly, this is a new situation. Ryan Fitzpatrick is what he is. I named him the starter. I wouldn't even look back for the rest of the season, but in terms of the future for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers he's thirty five, Jamison twenty four and more importantly, James has never been in this situation before he arrives at Florida state. He's the main he shows up in the NFL. He's demand the number one overall pick. He has not been in a situation where his career his future, his professional career and his life is on the line. I think you give a twenty four year old with his talent and opportunity to sit back watch how pro handles his business and see what he does with that opportu and here's what here's what I hear. And here's what here's where I'm going to say, okay, Ryan Patrick is in a new system with new weapons, and you know what tends it tends to happen as a season move along, you build tendencies. So as we said here, let's see if I could do that, but we don't think he's going to be able to do it because there's a similar situation, Philly. Sort of the eagles dropped to one in one after the loss in Tampa. But the good news for Phillies that sources tell her Adam Schefter that Carson Wentz is on track to return week three against the colts max will start with you. Should eagles fans be worried after this loss? No, because when you look at the schedule, this is why he didn't trade Nick foles. You needed a guy to keep you float. When you look at the schedule, the first four games look soft except for one game, and that was the falcons game, and they got lucky and got past the falcons. They got a little lucky and Nick foles had them at one. And in the one game, you thought they might lose that game. It turns out the bucks without Jameis Winston holding them back or quite good. And after week one, we looked at that and said, oh, wait a minute that. Bucks game is much tougher than we originally thought. Maybe they lose that one and they did. So they're one in one, but we thought they maybe lose the first win the second round up, vice versa. But there one in one, their next two games are not especially difficult and Carson Wentz is coming back. They're going to be fine. The real issue with the eagles is injuries like Jason Peters. You know, what does that mean for his play this season, that kind of stuff, injury stuff, too key players on the team should worry the eagles as it does with any team. I'm a giants fan before they were all in to alleviate Vernon. What does that mean for the past rush? You know, stuff like that, but Carson Wentz is coming back and they're one in one which is right about where they should be. They're going to be fine. I think there's reason for concern, but it's not because Nick foles because we all know that Nick foles just supposed to try to hold down the fort until cost them went to Robin, they only scored points in two games and obviously you'd think would cost it. Wednesday offense would have been better. The reason why feel they should be concerned is because of that defense. I know what was against the showing Jackson and OJ Howard and Mike Evans. But my God does show that Ryan Fitzpatrick put on against the eagles pass for four hundred two yards against the eagles. That would concern me because why the eagles are like twenty th against the past man. This this, the number last year they wanted to talk ranked teams against the run, shut down. The run has not been a problem for the Philadelphia Eagles. The problem has been with their secondary, and here's what really, really alarming, whether it's Brandon, Graham Affleck's a cocktails voice gave me a, we know they can get after the quarterback. We know that. So it's not like, oh, the quarterback is affective against you because. They got old data pass step back in a pocket, taking pictures calling their wives or girlfriends use me. I'll be home. It's such. It's such a top before they throw a damn pass. That's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about quarterbacks getting rid of the football. On this case, Ryan Fitzpatrick getting rid of the football and launching against the eagles secondary. We're talking about poor tackling on a part of the eagles secondary as well. 'cause OJ Howard, there's no way he should ran for that touch that he should scamper down the left sideline for that touchdown, the way they need did. Yes. They at least three mistakes that I saw there. So I look at that with the Philadelphia Eagles and that has caused a pause because when you look at the elite teams in the NFC or the potentially teach you talk about the Rams you're talking about Atlanta, we put them up even though they didn't show up in week one, we're looking at New Orleans. Of course, we're drew Brees. We're looking at Aaron Rodgers. If you can't defend in the secondary, you are going to fall. That is the problem with the Philadelphia Eagles right now listen are with you. I think there's some. There's some issue. The the work of defense lateness secondary. But here's, here's the thing. Anytime you get a quarterback that any always you could say before the injury was a league MVP you get him back in office, it's going to make a big difference. Okay. Now only on the field, but I'm telling you more in the locker room, the morale because Gaza going around and we got our guy back. Okay, the play making ability that he brings now only with his arm, but just off schedule played. That's a huge difference for the Philadelphia Eagles moon Ford. Listen, the defensive stop. They're going to work. They're going to work those things out as those guys, especially the guys up front, the pass rushes as they continue to get more pressure. I don't think you'll, you'll see the prolific performances that opposing quarterbacks you have had against the Philadelphia eagle. But I think when you bring Carson Wentz back, that's going to be used for that. Philadelphia only issue with what you're saying Damian is that this quarterback that you have in place that's just a backup. You certainly didn't let that hold you back from winning the Super Bowl championship. You want a Super Bowl championship with this dude. So my point is you just won the Super Bowl with him. Why should cost him Wentz being out, have such a devastating effect on morale or why should it be such a big lift when the guy that's in there in his place delivered a Super Bowl championship and the Super Bowl MVP wouldn't Nick foles streaky quarter net, Nick, Nick foot. Would you agree falls? This is a streaky quarterback. Right. And why. Last year. He just he got hot. There's no question about it. I'm just got defect. You said the daimyo. He's one of against to say as it turns out they've played two really good teams and they're one in one, eight hundred feet, the falcons week one. Yeah. NFC one NFC ease where division based a lot of tossup. I think my channel Philly. Yes, sorta guys. Let's be real. When you look good, you feel good at the JC Penney wardrobe sale. You can get fifty percents off. Select men's suits, separate sport coats, dress pants, and accessories plus elect dress shirts, buy one get one free raise your game with collection by Michael Strahan. 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Did anybody to say nothing to nobody you left when you know as much as I know, I know I found out going in the second half of the game coming out city said, he's not coming out and he retired. In Davis posted a statement on Instagram. It read in part, I meant no disrespect to my teammates and coaches while I wasn't a field. I just didn't feel right. I also wondered, do I wanna keep sacrificing and truthfully, I do not. It's more important for me and my family to walk away health, even to willfully embrace the war mentality and limp or wait till eight or more. Let's get you back to. I take. Vantera Davis coaling ADA career at halftime of the bills lost of the chargers yesterday. I don't know how I feel about this, but I'm not the one answering the question. You are. Do you love or hate this. Initially I laughed because I was like, you know what? The bills at awful brother could've taken no more and he left and I was laughing about it. And then I saw the video for Lorenzo Alexander and I said, you know what? He is one thousand percent. That is one of the weakest thing that I've ever seen an athlete do. I mean, it might be up. There is number one I need to quit during a game that's bad enough because you could wait until after the gap, but then on top of it all to not even stick around the tell you teammates to have them find out from coaches at what have you that point number two, that made it bad and point number three, that made it even worse. You found the time to explain it on Instagram, so you will go on Instagram and explain it publicly, but you don't take the time to explain it with the teammates that these these. These are your compatriots, you know what I'm saying? And so what I look at it from that perspective, I'm like, you're right in this message for public consumption, so it can be perceived when HALE in a certain kind of way. But the same thought you put into the note, you could have said to your teammates. I and bothering last point is the stuff that you depicted in the Instagram. Note the. The risk that you're taking, you know the, you know, the mental and the physical strain and the sacrifices. That's exactly what they wanna feel doing what you. So I just thought it was real bad on his part and it's the kind of thing. I don't even think he realized it'll stay with him forever. I don't know any NFL player in all my years. As a journalist, I'd have never come across the NFL player or professional athlete who would look at something like that happening and ever forget it. Not the guys that I've talked and obviously I've talked to everybody. I think it was hilarious. I love it. I mean, look, the bills are terrible organization. You think about think about Davis or anyone on that team. Okay. Peterman it's not working out. Well, it's a good thing. You can't AJ McCarron around because everyone knows Josh Allen is an upside project, grow all you traded AJ McCarron for some reason, right? You traded everyone who could have been a solid veteran quarterback, maybe or even a respectable, like NFL level quarterback. So now you gotta start the long term project right away. So there's that the optics are funny. I mean, you could take it seriously, but most fans are looking at that laughing. Now, in terms of the serious part of it. Max hold on, hold on because I got to cut you off there. As a player. There's nothing funny about this. There's there's nothing funny about this. Honestly, I'm I'm sitting here right now and my blood is boiling right now. Like I would literally like want to fight this cat here. It is because here's the problem. I have you've known you've known for wild man that you've been contemplating this. So you should've taken behind to the coach and be like, you know what? I'm done. I'm done, but you're gonna wait until game day where we all depend on the next man victory. You know this, you only as good as it next guy that you're playing with and then you will pull a move and walk out basically, why nobody nobody's watching. Nobody can see you. And just take stuff, ROY. What kind of punk does stuff like that you just walk out on me guys. What we talked about earlier, we depend on to, you know, to make money to feed our families and all these type of things, and then you walk out and then you anymore. Post someone, Instagram on social meeting. You can't come at me like a man and tell me, you know what? I can't down players the league. Damien Damien. How many players are there. Victor, again, I mean for me, the biggest thing for me is legacy right. I play this game for my family. I play this game two to have my name be thought of way after I'm done playing his game and as good a career vaunted Davis head. He's going to be known as the guy that quit at halftime and his family is gonna walk around with that tag on them as well. And his teammates are gonna look at him like, he's the guy that. And Furthermore, these young guys that are in his lead that are looking at him as a as an example guys has been there. He's a veteran player in this league out the one they're going to think that that's okay too to retire at halftime. And then post something on Instagram to to make up for it all know as a player, I'm what you would. He, I, if this happened for the giants while we were playing, there would have been the fight. They would have been altercation in that locker room Lockwood have found him somewhere in the parking lot. After the whatever the case may be, he was gone. We were. There would have been okay, but he was gone. I understand. But if that had happened and we were there, we were around other teammates were there. We would have caught him that have that would have been an altercation. That's not the way you want. Your legacy to be fulfilled as an athlete, Victor Damian and Stephen eight for them, and I don't doubt that players feel that way. They're like including practice squads, how many players, three thousand players in the NFL. There are three hundred million people in the country, and it seems to me from the fans point of view, it's more hilarious than serious though from the from the players point of view, of course it serious, but even then guys, he said it occurred to him in that moment. I don't wanna do this anymore. Now, did he handle it? Right. Do you walk away? Do you not at least wait, wait it out with your team and tell your coach done, and then say on the bottom line is that you're done. There's nothing. I'm not. I'm not buying his real serious players. I'm not a plan to the game. Would you still be salty about it and handle that the exact same way way to the game. And he went and told the coach or just a dress, the guarantee I can respect that at least you, at least you made it through the job finishing walkout max. If you take your ear piece out right now, walkout we go have some problems. Okay. Right. Are we gonna have some issues because you walking out on us as a team. We are a team here you walking out on us. We're going to have some. Listen. Wait a minute. Wait a minute max. We heard you, here's the deal. I specifically said at the start of by initial reaction because it's the Buffalo Bills and how it Trojans they were. I said, that's how that's how the Buffalo Bills can make you feel. And they're not said you saw that video from. From overseas. Right? You saw that video and you like this. You know, this is serious stuff because because it's like you walked out in the middle of the game, you work at it because I didn't know that Montaigne wanting Davis, wasn't they? After the game coach? I don't have it. No, I don't have it. All right. So we don't make adjustments or whatever. I had no idea at the time he had been announced at halftime. I'll go to basketball rod. If you remember Kevin, love suffered some kind of l. mental illness or whatever. What happened with the friction in Cleveland's locker room early in the season. It wasn't that he was ill. It wasn't that he could have come out and play. It was that the players came in after the game was over, and he was going say, at Thomas de way, LeBron all of these guys, what the hell is up, why isn't he here? So, and that was after the game. Illness, this dude. How's it going. How's it going to be remembered in history? Right. He knew that in a second. I'm going to answer it. I that that maybe the worst franchise in football that's being run as a clown show right now. Nobody. Max one day one day had a player to say, you know what? I retire house time. You. Las series. Bills a week from now. Nobody give it anybody think about Dan Buffalo Bills. They're going to remember that vantera Davis quitted half towns. They're gonna. This franchise was so ridiculous. Please. In a locker room, you both obviously, retired, you play in your retirement, right? Like this wasn't just some impulsive decision. He had to be thinking about it always always, say, Bill Parcells used to say like the mini. You have inkling that like the game is not you not fully vested, it's time to get out. It's time to go. So he's had this. He's had the charge me. He's having these thoughts now for wild ages, took the worst opportunity to two guys professing out there with him. He took the worst. I'm crystallize it for everybody and Damian Invicta can answer and tell me if I'm lying. If Evonne Tae Davis, Avantis vantera vantera Davis walked around any NFL player right now. Pick any network. You can find pick any locker room. You could find if he showed his face today. Despite the fact that he could ball and he's had a good career and his kill sent was respected. Watch how they look at him, and you might have cats that will look at some people in the Buffalo Bills locker room. I want to put the hands on them. Other cats are looking at him with little to no respect for him right now for one reason. And one reason only he walked out on us in the middle of the game and my lying in not not at all, and that's zero respect. And if he walked into any locker room, that's the stigma that's going to be hanging over him. We're going to be looking at him like, why are you want to be here with us? You just quit on your team and you know in football, there's twofold right either the game chooses to be done with you or you're done with the game. In my case, the game chose to be done with me. So I had to make. Choice. But in other scenarios, when you choose to be done with the game, you have that angle to do it the right way. And he chose the absolute worst possible way. You brought him up as a player. I'm telling you right now if he came around as an analytical, they look at him like, why are you talking what you got to? What do you say about the and his legacy. Defy Damian. If you found out like he was meeting with coaches, he was in office. He was complaining. No one was listening to him. He was so frustrated with organization. He had been vocal with his team. Would you be okay with it then? No, no. There's nothing. There's no excuse you a grown man. It finished the gang, finish the game. If you have you go to your coach afterwards and have that discussion, but not not as specific word. The word could be a luminated above. All else is half ton halftime. That's what may not game. Not after get have time you quit and he had right, Tom, right? He said at half time is so bad and he was done. He said at the at the half, take this job and shove it. I work at here. No more at walked out. Of course, the players are going to take your lamps messed up. Mexicans are laughing. As you can laugh it, but as a as a former player, that's no laughing matter to play case it max. These hangings would have been any loss was part of imagine quitting on a guy like Brandon Jacobs in the locker, like there's no excuse any of that. Like there's there's zero skews. Sportscenter right now on the Collins, Sunday urban Meyer suspension from Ohio State ended. He was suspended three games of Joe. Hi, oh, states investigation into his handling of former assistant sack Smith, and the domestic violence allegations made against him by his ex-wife corny Smith and an exclusive interview with ESPN's. Tom, Rinaldi Mayer has a message for Courtney. I'm sorry that I really believed that the time I was doing the right thing to help stabilize family. What apology, if any, have you offered to her directly. I didn't talk to her directly and maybe some time I will, but why not? Wasn't allowed to now. That's something I have to think through. What message do you think your return as coach at Ohio State sends to women. What wanted to do this interview? I wanted to make sure. I think there's been a time period where people believe that I was suspended because I turn my back on domestic ballots and that shook me to the core Courtney Smith says, you chose to help the abuser and to enable the abuser. What's your response to that breaks? My heart. I didn't hear that until just now. That's. I apologize that she believes that that's never been my intent. My intent was to try to help all involved the only way that I knew how the time and I teach races firemen and really put a family and people financially, etc. Or try to stabilize someone so he can go up and be good father. On this. Here's I take. Maybe you should try calling her excellent interview by Tom Rinaldi. So you just heard urban Meyer saying he made a bad decision to hire former assistants x. myth and would have fired Smith. Had he known about domestic violence against his wife, Courtney Smith, here's Paul finebaum with his reaction to Myers Commons an old thing. Anything has really changed. I think which changes at urban Meyer has finally listened to some people in terms of trying to disseminate his story. He went from being obstinate, denying everything being defiant to bit by bit. This is now I think the fourth interational of his apology tour where he is now trying to fit his answers to what the criticism has been. I don't think many people around the country by or believe, much of what he has said. Having said that though, I do know college football fans, and he has possibly the second team in the country. And once he gets out there, the majority of fans will push all of this away and start wondering, is this team good enough to challenge Alabama. Meyer will speak to reporters today as he resumes his duties as buckeyes head coach after that three game suspension. Stephen, I talked to me about what you just heard of urban Meyer needs to get his lodge street. He needs to make up his mind at the exceptional interview towering all the as always exceptional commentary about Paul finebaum as always when he alluded to the fourth iteration of his story, complete flat out denials. And then all of the sudden, you know, you've got the press conference. You look like you have to be forced to be up. There you talking about what break show hot about Courtney Smith, clearly a woman that you've never reached out to and called to have a conversation about it. You talked about keeping a family stabilized, but you never communicated with both you communicated with him the person that happens to be the grandson to the individual. That was your mentor, Earl, Bruce, who you love so daily, which is why you initially justified keeping them on board because you felt like you owed it to your mental because this was his. Grandson, so which one is it? It doesn't make any sense. What it comes down to is that urban Maya came across as an individual that didn't care enough. And this coming from me is a big deal. In this respect. I was never of the mindset and I have never been of the mindset that a person needs to be held more culpable than the actual culprit Zac Smith. His at he ended up firing is the one who allegedly engaged in domestic violence. He's denied it, but few people believe him at this point at top, but he is the villain because he is the one that came across. And if you listen to some of the reports damn near terrorizing and his now ex wife, urban Maya didn't do that, but urban Meyer having the power and the cash that he has and choosing to handle it the way that he did publicly in a message that he was willing to ZIM to disseminate was so irresponsible that you question whether or not this man should be. A leader of men and that is what this comes to max. I want to say one thing really quickly, and I take no pleasure in saying this every time he speaks now and opens his mouth. I lose more and more respect for him. The fact that he said that he was unclear that Courtney Smith felt like the perpetrator was being protected, not her the victim, the abuser he wasn't. He was unaware of that. I mean, come on dude. Well, look, only urban Meyer knows why he gave the interview, but let me tell you what it looks like. The reasons look like from where I'm sitting. Okay, what I can infer from it. Okay. Looks like damage control by urban Meyer and Ohio State because the way they handled that press conference when they didn't release the findings, the all the findings of the investigative panel until after the press conference. Therefore, reporters were not a quipped to ask the kinds of questions they might have been. Had they got it ahead of time. The fact that they seem to get away with a suspension that what's the lowest suspension, the least amount of damage we can do wild placating people, three games. The fact that he's still coaching practices essentially, the fact that three current Ohio State University trustees were on the investigative panel. Stephen and I said, at the time we debated it. You know, I don't like that at appears to be a conflict of interest. The fact that he seemed to not contrite that he lacked remorse that he never even when given the chance apologized to Courtney Smith during the press conference. They now feel because he's about to come back that they need to do some damage control. They got to put them on TV and do some damage control because we learn anything new from this. No, we saw a guy who doesn't seem to think he did anything wrong necessarily. Now he's at the point where well, if I look back at it maybe but he his his, the appearances that he's having to jump through these hoops to do damage control now for himself in university, here's the deal. Here's the part that everybody needs to pay attention to. Yes, his damage control. Yes. There's absolutely no excuse to. He has not caught up tick Uley considering what he is. Said since the press conference, but I go back to being a leader of men when urban Meyer has spoken about domestic violence in the past. He has been dogged in disseminating the message that he is completely against it. It would be a no tolerance policy, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. What we saw here is that you mean towards the players, not necessarily towards the coaches, particularly one of your guys who happens to be the grandson of your mentor. That's the issue here because of this will wanna play. As I promise, you probably might would not be in this situation. If this were player, I even don't ever thirty one arrest what he was at Florida. And even though you have some issues day at what have you, you noted a play. It would have been thrown to the wolves. So now we get into a biggest societal issue because we're talking about players, individuals that don't possess the level of power, cachet influence, etc. That are coach has and you would throw. Oh, them to the wolves, but a coach get saved. That's the problem here we are sitting here and we are living in an age where we're witnessing before I very, is that nineteen twenty twenty year olds, rife with ignorance, no doubt some of them more accountable than grown adults who are in positions of power and being lip not only believed to know better. They're being paid because the presumption is they do better when in fact, they don't act that way. We have to hold them accountable. For that reason. This man is a phenomenal coach. I would want urban my coach my team any day if we're just talking about football. But if we're talking about leading young men, that's the question here and that is the stuff that needs to be focused. That's what you're saying. Essentially, that's what Maxine. That's what we're all talking about here. Because if you address things the right way, then we're not questioning you being a leader of men and we all right. That's the problem. Conference every time he gets a friend of reporters, things just get worse. I don't under- because we find out that there's an additional law of the previous life keep up with all it was hard to keep up with them for sure. Now now Yep, you guessed it. I'm a speed bump, so I've got one job. I slow you down. So imagine how I feel about Geico who does way more like not only could they save you money on car insurance, but they've been around for over seventy five years, giving people fast and friendly claim service. Ow. Plus they got a nifty mobile app that gives you twenty four, seven access ow. I'll just doing my job buddy. Geico expect great savings and a whole lot more canal Alvarez defeated triple g by majority decision in their much anticipated. Rematch that was Saturday night. Two judges scored at one fifteen one thirteen for Alvarez. In the third judge scored at one fourteen one fourteen, they fought to a controversial split draw last September max. I'll start with you. Did you agree with the position? I thought it should have been a draw and particularly, I thought, triple g one, excuse me Cannella one, four of the first six and triple g g one, four of the last six, but one of the force with six, six, no, knockdowns, no extra points. So it's the draw. One of the reasons that I have a problem with the decision, not a huge one. I think you could give that fight to Conoco, but the twelfth round, look, Steve Weisfeld is one of the judges. He's an excellent judge, but the twelfth round was pretty clearly triple Gs and two of the three judges including Steve scored the the round four Cannella now had that round been. Board properly for triple g it's a draw. And so if you're triple g today, you're going hold on. I should be one, oh, in one. And instead of only one in one because he should have won the first fight and drawn in this fight in my opinion. But look when you're claiming the entire time that you're gonna fight, Mexican style, you're trying to go to counterpuncher who's Cannella into standing toe to toe with you. And then he stands toe to toe with you, and you try to fight on the perimeter of the ring behind the jab, which he did affectively in a way, but Cannella was the one bringing the fight can ellos to one landing the damaging shots, especially in the first half of the fight. You know, you might lose that decision. Cannella was ripping triple, jeez body and the thing that was so amazing about it. Stephen, a people I know like the talking about the fact that I said Canellas winning the story of the fight might point during the fight was it's not enough to win the story of the fight. Andre ward was winning the story, the fight against cove eleven. The rematch may have been down on the cards, but he knocked Kovalev out and I've kept mentioning canal, oh, may want to close the show. The story is not enough to win. You have to win the fight itself, but the amazing part about it was in spite of Cannella doing the damaging body work in spite of triple g fighting in the perimeter and kinetico taking the play away early. It was triple g who rally blade the way Cannella rallied late in the first fight, triple g rallied like a champion down the stretch and that to pull out what I thought was a draw. But at any rate to hurt Cannella late after he'd been wreaked to the body and worked over in the first half of the fight that was an epic. Middleweight title fight, and I'd love to see a third one. I wouldn't, and I thought trip would g one to fight. I thought he won a close decision. I thought he should have gotten a decision, but I knew he wasn't going to get it. Because I knew the fight would be close and Canellas popularity in Vegas and what he brings to the table from a boxing perspective, I thought ultimately propelled him to getting the victory and that's exactly how it turned out being. Now in fairness, you and everybody else. Andre ward air will spend junior and Jamaal, Charles. Oh, all cornered me after the fight. These are all champions all undefeated. Okay. And they all thought Pinilla wanna fight. They thought that he was the constant aggressive. They kept bringing up the fact that triple g was talking about Mexican style, triple g one, it Kamilo to stand there and face him and triple g got exactly what he wanted. And instead elected to back up and utilize jab. I'm not holding that against triple g. My attitude is this is boxing jabs win as well. It helps you accumulate points. The damaging punches from Kamilo came early, the damaging punches from triple g came late where maximum disagree. Is that I think that triple g to some degree, I believe is trainer. Abel Sanchez when he said, triple g took some of that twelfth round off, and I think that may have cost them along with him, retreating and using his jab to his advantage more time. My my buddy teddy atlas talked about trooper g when he had triple g winning one seventeen twelve. I think that's utterly ridiculous well, but he but he was told with how he was talking about how trip would g was like a matter the war and you know, just, okay, this is what can Ila wants to do. So let me back up, utilize my jab, extorts, etc. But I think it costs it should not have outdoor triple g won a close close flight. I had it like one, fourteen thirteen at one because I had to sixth round even max, and I had triple g winning closer that you can't get closer than that. In other words, you can't have a problem with the draw if you have it that close close round, right? I was on the ring apron. You know, like you're on the ring apron. When you call the fight. It's not like being the first row and I can tell you that early on, I could see triple g landing and he is a power jab. But the hard shots were landed by Cannella over. The first half of the fight can never was beating triple g up over the second half of the fight triple g was beating Cannella, and I thought by the end they had each one six rounds. But let me say this about Cannella. He won close decisions against Austin, trout narrows Landy Laura. Yes. And the history of boxing has been that the money fighter tends to almost always get the close decisions against Floyd Mayweather Floyd one, ten rounds against Canelo and one judge had it even against triple g at best Cannella one, six rounds. But I thought more like four or five triple g should've won and one judge gave canal, oh, ten rounds. So if you're triple g and you know, all the close decisions tend to go to Canada. I'm not saying you need to accept injustice. I'm saying, you know that going in and you walk Cannella to stand there and fight you in the trenches, and then Cannella obliges than you have to know winning. Sorry, six one round even. Exactly what that's exactly the point that Audrey ward made to me when I interviewed him afterwards on sportscenter and when we will off the he's like Cannella gave triple g what he asked for and triple g was retreating. He held that against tricky. I go to. Vicha installment of this Stephen a. is done the raiders blow. Twelve point second half later, Denver yesterday dropping Owen to and John gruden's returned to the sideline shortly after the loss. Current Broncos punter and former raiders punter market king posted a video on Twitter that included this Chucky though. Oh yeah. This. We gotta we gotta get there. We gotta win and some one on ones and maybe call more blitzes. We figure something out we will. Max will start with you. Are you okay with Gruden start to the season as a coach? Yeah, as a guy who's running the franchise, I wouldn't have traded Khalil Mack for what he got, but as a coach, yes, because they are the reason you trade Khalil Mack by four, their best player. And that includes Derek Carr is an all time. Great hall of Famer. I believe in his prime right now, the reason to do that is because you look at your roster when you get there and you go, we're not close. This is not going to help us put over. We have too many holes, so we need to build for the future. So the question is, if you're not that talented compared to the two other teams, what do you do against them? Do you have an effort? This is something I brought up with Todd Bowles last year. The jets coach would even though the jets did never good record. When I saw the jets play said, you know what? They got a coach. He has his guys playing hard every game competing every game and what I've seen from the raiders. Yes, they were dispirited by the second part of the first game against the Rams. 'cause the Rams I believe, gonna win the Super Bowl this year. I think they're the most talented team in football. The boy. He had them close in the first half and against the Broncos were not the row. Rams, but still not a bad team that team went down to the wire. So Gruden has them playing hard playing over their heads that bodes well for the future when he gets more talent. So no. So far as a coach, Steven a. I'm okay with group. Well, the reason why I'm not okay with it. Max Kellerman is because you're trying to parse. You're trying to pick apart the coach to the executive when you get paid one hundred million dollars, you don't get to do that. The fact that a Matt is Gruden his there. He's trying to do things his way, and what's the number one problem with the raiders right now they've got no pass rush. They can't get to the quarterback. Okay. And who. I made it all day. Maybe Khalil Mack, you're gonna sit if you will not be a problem. So here's what you did. So you have an opportunity where you walk in there. You're making all of this noise about debit card. He completed twenty one verse twenty. Two passes twenty nine to thirty two game. But if you take away to one thirty yard completion that he had he completed twenty eight passes for two hundred and fifty eight yards. If that ain't different than Dunkin. I don't know what is okay, so I'm not overly Hamid with that. He just didn't look godawful has he looked week one, but I like Derek Hough and not believing him. We'll see what happens. You did with two tackles in the last twenty seconds which set up the winning field goal. So we can't ignore that either. We have to pay attention to that reality. You had miss tackled. You had the accents of a path which means on the defensive side of the ball, which overall laid pretty impressively against Denver yesterday when you told about miss tackles, it can't get into the quarterback. I'm sorry, Khalil Mack with solve allowed to that. Okay. And your election to get rid of him. Look makes me look at you and say, what are you thinking about. What on earth you always Stephen, and he will be attached to Khalil Mack being gone for a long time and let the raiders defense get better. No-one taught about trading Khalil Mack, even if you look at your team and you think there are lots of holes. It's not like Cleo max thirty two years old. You have a quarterback in his prime who you obviously believe in who you think is your franchise quarterback and who is talented, David car. You have your coach, so you got your coach, your quarterback. You also have your great pass rusher all around great defensive player on the line guy. Like how much more do you have? Those are the critical pieces. Why would you get rid of the pass rusher because you fill in the the, ask the question that keep going. Let's pull it. You do it because you think it's about you as opposed to the players. That's why you'd think that's what you did that because popular Jon Gruden will figure it out. That's why you did it. Let's tonight Khalil Mack. Taking on Russell Wilson in the Seahawks Monday night football, that's going to be a good one. We will react with the greatest. The end up doing a good job though, but so far, no, this is on team was terrible, and he said, I'm working on the future and that's why he got rid of them. 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Full Show - NFL Week 2, The Mahomes show, Vontae Davis retirement

First Things First

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Full Show - NFL Week 2, The Mahomes show, Vontae Davis retirement

"Yeah. Well, hi walk into first things. First, some general, that's the hall of fame. Chris Carter has always this is Nick right rate weekend of football to pass your way death Prescott in the Cowboys back on the right track. A controversial call may have cost, Aaron Rodgers win, but we will kick off the show this morning with one. Tom Brady would very much like back as Jaguars hosted the patriots. Let's go to go and guys in the rematch of last year's ABC title game were Tom Brady outduelled Blake Bortles this time around quite the opposite as the Jags did not hold back and it was Bortles who bested Brady Bordeaux's threw for four touchdowns three hundred seventy seven yards in Jacksonville's thirty one to twenty win over New England Brady had two hundred thirty four yards and two touchdowns in the loss. Here he is after the game. Needs to a better job and not a snot, certainly our best effort. I'll give them a lot of credit. They played good. You know, make tough on on our offense defense and you know, we just could never stringing together. That seemed to be the case as you kept wanting them to get it. Going to jump start jump start that often see, what do you think was the biggest key in the patriots loss on Sunday? We'll even with their often struggling with some time you're going to do against a top five defense. We know Jacksonville going be a top five defense, but which you don't expect is in based on the game plan at New England hat. They were expecting to get some help from the Jags. They thought the Jags and. Because he's gotten a lot of criticism that they were going to try to protect Blake, Bortles in this. That's the reason why they had seven, eight man fronts. Man, they had zero coverage. They did some things that I haven't seen New England do that consistently for a long long time. You would have thought in this game that they were down at the beginning in trying to get the ball back and try to be more aggressive. They had eight people in the bops man, the man on the outside. So Jacksonville, what did they do the most impressive thing? How they threw the ball on first down. Blake Bortles, thirteen of nineteen on first down and not only just those numbers, but it was the fame of the game. They got off to an early lead, but the drive before halftime. They're almost in the same situation. They were in the championship game, but the coaches staff said, no, we're going to be aggressive. And then that continued in the second half with radiant opportunity to get the ball back. You could see the Jags continue on first down trust. Their quarterback compared to trying to protect their quarterback. There's a lot of other subplots in the game, but for me in moving forward, that would have to be the biggest thing Jacksonville and having confidence in their quarterback and him distributing the ball and guys making place the Jags out patriot the patriots in this game. What you talked about right before halftime. What's been the staple of the Bella check era pet score before the half get the ball back score after half that is exactly exactly what Jacksonville did to reel off ten straight points. Blake Bortles the stat CC mentioned are unbelievable. I mean, to average nearly eight yards per play on first down, not gonna lose a lot of football games that way. Yes, they stayed aggressive even in the waning moments up, eleven with less than three minutes remaining a lot. I would not have criticized them at all, and that's about if they said, run, run, run, punt. We're up to SCO. Right? If your scores tha that's what you got. You're playing the clock at that point. And even then they said, we trust you, Blake, we're not going to lose this game the way we lost the AFC championship game because we only trust in you for half. I'm we're not even gonna lose it because we only trust your for three and a half quarters. Bortles was the story of the game because the pats clear game plan was see, see what he can do and what he did was to me. I don't think it's over the top to call it. It's the best football game given the opponent. I've seen Blake Bortles play as a pro and people need to adjust their is to recognize what they saw yesterday. The pats were down double digits after the first quarter and never got it within single digits from that point forward that tap into Tom Brady three times in his career over four against the Steelers, low nine against the ravens and yesterday against the Jags. The reason I bring that up in that early two thousand part of. The patriots era that team that could give him trouble along with indie was the Steelers in the late two thousand offs. It was the ravens. And now the Jags the only three teams to get a double digit lead on Brady and keep it the whole game there. Now, on that list, it was a dominant performance from Jack's team that I thought was going to be outclassed on Sunday. Clearly the outcome surprised a lot of people. The other thing that I think surprised people was was rob gronkowski and what he wasn't able to yesterday. I think he finished her that fifteen yards or something. We talked all week about whether it was gonna be Jalen Ramsey rob gronkowski matchup whether he'd be able to slow or even stop him. How are they able to contain grant was I had a good game plan. I think that the defense of staff of the Jags didn't get called up in the who Jalen is what he got called up in this, who are we as Jags defend because they don't go out there and talk trash. They don't go out there and say a whole bunch of stuff. They don't get personal fouls. They just have one player. Jalen in the g. q. article. And I guess he's trying to raise his profile. So that's what we might see moving forward. He said, we're going to play to our strength. We don't play a lot of man to man coverage. We're going to send a lot of people at gronk, but we're not going to go out of our way in have Jalen travel with him so they can potentially pick him. We're gonna concentrate on the whole offense and we're going to slow him down. But ultimately we're going to put pressure on Brady if he's not going to have a whole bunch of time to build a sit back there to build a pick it apart. So I thought the staff of Jacksonville, offensively and defensively, they put this team, which is a very, very good roster in a position where they could be successful in their game plan. And while they didn't allow it to become Ramsey gronk hardly at all, not even in the red zone like Bart, Scott talked about. They might. I mean, they really played a true game plan apps and of the egos to it. What they did do, which Houston was not able to do the week four into the patriots is saying. To the pats, we will not let gronk beat us again. It's kind of the patriots thing. What do you do best? We want to take it away. We won't let grunk beat us. Let see what Jacob Hollister can do. Let see what James white can do. Let's see. Philip door set can do and the Texans couldn't do it the week before gronk dominated that game for the patriots and lead them to the victory this week without gronk you all of a sudden saw pets team. This is where they're missing out on. This is where they miss Brandin cooks. This is where maybe they missed Dion Lewis. And I brought up the Texans game couple times just because we talked after week one. We don't know what week, one games who they mean more about. Do they mean more about the one that team that lost after saw how Houston played this week against a Blaine gabbert led titans team. You start even to look at the patriots in week one and that victory little bit differently. And you see the Jags who really both sides of the ball had an excellent game plan and execute it as well as you could have hoped for them. Nick mentioned the water savers is there anything that's stuck out for you that actually concerns you about this patriots team after what you saw? Or was this just a loss and they move on from it? It's just a law shift to spread it around the Jags Ray would take advantage of the offense of line. You know, they were not dominant. If you look at running the ball, the patriots long game was fifteen yards passing the ball, long game. Twenty nine yards. So we can sit there and blame it on the wide receivers, but we don't expect them to be spectacular. No, that's who Tom Brady has. That's the people. Now we give them credit when they do well against Texans oldish spread the ball out. Philip Dorsett had a career high end catches, no, this is who they are. They miss adamant because with gronk being limited and they didn't get the ball to the running backs out of the backfield as much. But you have to give Jacksonville credit. They outside why receivers for New England. We're not a threat against the Jags d and the while. It doesn't show up in the box score because the Jags I think just had a couple of sacks and three other quarterback hurries to Chris's point about the offense of line that those numbers are where they are because Brady so good at getting it out quickly. But he was under duress. They were collapsing the pocket quickly. And so some of those offense of line questions we had for the pats coming into the season. They're great, offensive line coach, Dante scar Nekia. Notwithstanding those you started to see, okay. That's why there was a level of concern at their left tackle position. That's why there was a level of concern. Now, most teams don't have Jacksonville's front and clay Campbell out their dominating people, but you saw a lot of the things that we were like about the patriots rear their head in this this week. Now, with that said, they get Detroit Miami and then that'll men's back. So at least on the receiving core, some of it will be better couple of weeks from now. The Jacksonville Jaguars are to know as they beat the patriots in week two. We'll talk much more about that coming up. But on the other side, how was Dak Prescott able to right the ship with a win over the New York Giants. Next on first things. First. We're going to get to Dak in the Cowboys in a minute, but first Jaguars rider Seaver Keelan Cole makes an unbelievable one handed cats watch it again. I mean this rampant in the NFL see that is the best one of the year. Yeah, that's the that's the best one of the year. I mean, that's OB j. going down the sideline LBJ's. Now the ball's traveling furthest velocity. The ball is harder, but that was nice and then went on to have a great game. Absolutely. I mean, I laughed at the idea that he could be your number one receiver. He looked like it yesterday. Credit to him. I- Vikings Packers. Kirk cousins to Adam. Phelan twenty two yards look at. It's not eighty million, but that's right. I ve already covered to. He's got a guy around his legs. He can't even step into the throat in his able to get it there. If you think the Vikings are a lot better with with coast, no, this that's the only reason why they could come into two point. Conversion throw was one of the like he. He made some great throws. I don't know how the safety didn't get there. That was spectacular. I finally here, North Texas kick returner brewer pulls off the fake fair catch against Arkansas, then goes in ninety yards for the score. I love it. So onc- he never wavered saying, what did he did? Waive his hand? All just hand watches. Left-hand watching watches left hand. It doesn't get above his shoulder. Now what I'm concerned about is next week, you see that way. Learn concerned about next week. A guy does he fair catch and then a guy takes cheap shot on him, but he waved his hand hand, but he didn't get above the shoulder. And so the rest let it go. That is great. Onto the Cowboys in giants. Football deck, Prescott and the boys called out by big blue earlier in the week to which Dak said challenge accepted and it was for the most part sure. Dak through for just one hundred sixty yards Zeke at seventy eight yards and a touchdown on the ground. But it was the defense which came big as Dallas gets there. First went on the year twenty two thirteen victory over the New York Giants here is that Prescott after the game. Wasn't the only one who accepted that challenge. This team accepted that offense accepted it, and we wanted to go out there and it's just show these via they outplayed us. Plain simple. You know, they came out and they beat us. Obviously, guys are disappointed, and you know, some guy's going to be frustrated. It has as we should, but we can't let that affect preparation or practices. So we got, we got a bounce back and, and you know, come back know be on the road again next week and face good Houston team. So you know, nothing. Nothing's get fixed. You know by itself complaining, it's about. Stepping up and making a difference and fixing things Nick. We had real concerns about this Cowboys team from the quarterback said there hobbled line across the board, their receivers to what you saw last night, ease. Any of those concerns for this team in any concerns? Yes, it is. Some of them all far from it like, listen, what the Cowboys should feel best about right now is they appear to have a legitimate top ten defense that is in back to back weeks done very well for four full of quarters holding the Panthers sixteen, the giants got thirteen, but kinda just barely like they were in single digits for the vast majority of the game down multiple scores for the vast majority of the game that field goal at the end gets them to thirteen like they, the defense looks excellent, and Zeke started to in my eyes, look more like Zeke more. But again, fifteen carries seventeen carries. He hasn't had the big attempts game, but yesterday's game didn't eat any my concerns. Well. Jack hundred sixty yards passing when sixty four comes on. One play like this is a guy who after those first two drives was Bart Scott math and tell me how many fifteen of twenty four for ninety six yards after that six or your complete yards. Do you have the risk from say, other than the table Austen? Yes. Fifteen of twenty four for ninety six yards. That's exactly four yards per attempt like so I don't the. It was very funny. My my wife showed me this weekend from one year ago. This past Friday, an argument from a year ago that day September thirteenth, whatever that was talking about Dak Prescott it was you me you and Greg Jennings is there except our seats are flipped. And Chris is adamant, Chris, I'm telling you guys, he's a game manager. The idea that he could do what it is rookie year in any system is absurd, and you were point your finger were fired up and I texted Chris, the video, and I said, I think you might have been correct on this argument. Like I, I didn't. See last night and like rookie your Dax back. No, the ice Aw Cowboys team that took advantage of a giant team that's in huge trouble got out to an early lead ally had no time, and the defense played great and Dak did didn't make any mistakes. But that wasn't to me a great quarterback in performance by number four, for the Dallas Cowboys guys remember the Baltimore Ravens when they had to mall Lewis. Yeah. And. Not the two thousand yard season, but just an offense was down. He was the focal point, Jonathan Ogden. All right, tackle they had a quarterback, manage the game mad, a top five defense Dow's has a chance to me in that because they got very good personnel Rodman Elliot's doing a tremendous job as far as the scheme, getting guys in position to make a play. The only problem with Dallas's people don't want them to be a dominant defensive team. It's not sexy like, you know, they want the high flying scoring. No, they're not going to be that. So if you change how you look at them and their scope and you say, well, what if that was Jacksonville who want a game like that last night you'd be happy. You've been like, wow, yeah, that's how Jacksonville win games. But if they start off the game with the, the theme that we're going to choke teams out, we're going to be a defense worrying team get after the quarterback force turnovers, hold the. The other team down in check and our quarterbacks going to manage it will get a little bit ahead in the passing game. And then later on we'll run the ball to eat up the clock. Yeah, then this great game, but I just don't think Dallas in their fan base is willing to say, you know, no, no, we're, we're an offense of driven team. We got the star on our helmet. We're going to be a little bit sexier than what we are, but man Dax game manager, and there's nothing wrong with that. But after that big play, that's the Dallas offense that we're starting to get used to seeing. We saw it in four quarters and Carolina. We saw it for three quarters in this game. So in seven quarters of football out of eight, they just have not been over to affectively throw to football, and that was by the way without the giants getting affective, pass, rush. Also, like it's not like Dak was constantly under duress and it's not like I, at least I don't feel the giants have shutdown corners. I mean, Jack rabbit got burnt by Taylor on Austin, but they end lane and cons. Next. On safety, but I don't look at the Cowboys is I think on their defense, their weakest part is I'm sorry, I, I got my the giants. Pardon me? The weakest part of their defense is their secondary committed the front, and you still couldn't get an effective passing game going. So I just I don't. I don't think you solved anything there. Let's turn and sort of see what the Dallas Cowboys were up against this giants offense of supposed to be, you know, putting out there all these new weapons they have. We were finally going to see saquon Barkley wrong. We're going to see what Dell can do, and it just felt like they just stalled across the board and weren't able to get anything done. How concerned were you with this giants offense? See, I'm not concerned at all because I told me that's going to be my thing. I told Nick that offense of line regardless of money they spend on this is not a good offensive line. They're not going to be a good offensive line. It's going to be hard to run the ball like you can be a good running back, but you can't run when you can't find a whole. If you look at the. Other Todd Gurley. The one year he had an off year was offense of line there for the Rams was not very, very good. People talk about ill bell, what he doesn't Pittsburgh, it's their scheme, but also their offense of line. They provide holes Zeke there in Dallas. They provide whole, you need to be able to get the running back to the second level. You need to get him through the line of scrimmage, and with the giants too many free runners in the backfield too many guys, you have to void before you get back to the line of scrimmage. So no, I'm not surprised at all. They'll be able to throw the ball some, but this offense of line. It lies going to take a pound in this year because this offense of line is not going to be good. I'm not overreacted. I didn't think they were going to be good, and I knew the money that they're left tackle would not be able to cure all the woes that they have. Well, it's, they got a double problem, which is one the left tackle is not performing level. They had hoped that they're paying for. But the other one is the left guard that will Hernandez. The guy they draft in the top of the second round is playing like a ROY. Rookie interior offense of Lyman who is struggling mightily that's not even to mention Eric flowers. But if they, if this team, if if the problem is the offense of line is too bad for them to be able to even get into what they want to do offense, then you can't look at what they did this offseason as the right course of action through the draft. If the fact of the matter is too often line so bad, the number two overall pick running back, can't get going, then you can't take the number two overall pick running back. The offense of line is so bad. You also have the draft capital in real capital. You throw the money at Nate sold or you bring him in, you move flowers over to his natural position right tackle. So you already have a lot of money and resources already committed to that offensive line. That doesn't mean it's going to work out like we can wait every game that the giants aren't successful. It's we could easily say they should have drafted a quarterback. The giants were going to be rebuilding that offense of line and you can't replace one player and Bill do that. Solar Hernandez? What did he do? Well in college, he was in the box, nasty type of guy. What type of game plan are they giving them where he can take advantage of the tools that he has. So it takes a long time and it takes multiple ski multiple players on offense line to repair how bad that offense of limewood. Sure. See. But when I say the offseason I'm not just talking about saquon in the draft. I'm what I'm saying is in the off season to to your point your theme, right? I told you, you said this is not gonna fix their offensive line. They operated the entire offseason like they thought that was short up. We're going to compete right now that is part of moving flowers over that is part of signing a guy that you thought from the moment happened was overpaid. It's their job to let the baseline have the knowledge that you do when they're making their free agency decisions like yesterday, the giants. I mean, saquon had fourteen catches for eighty yards. That's the fewest in NFL history. How long they. Been playing CC ninety nine ninety nine years. No one has ever had that many catches for that few yards to have that those type of dynamic playmakers and I don't know if this is on the offense coordinator, Pat Shurmur but have saquon in Odell and a athletic tied in ally. All talked about the line a lot. How much of that do you put on manning? He's not blocking them. I mean, Eli was running for his life. If if this wasn't a divisional game, they had second one more time. I would have thrown into tau like what's allies fools to do. How good it was supposed to be in that game. I'm, I'm one of the most I, I mean, I'm in the critic at this point in his career. I can't put yesterday on him yesterday. He was the reason he was checking down every time is because he didn't have time. He missed del, wants on a double move to the end zone. But aside from that, like I didn't see week one missed guy, we saw missing guys when he did have time. I didn't see that yesterday yesterday. I did see him under constant duress, and then they were not able to scheme their playmakers open. So I I'm not hesitant to criticize Eli yesterday I don't think is on him I, this is the Cavs over the giants. We'll talk a much more about this, but on the other side, Patrick Mahomes look looking unstoppable in her fist, his first two weeks of play. That's next on first things. First. All right time. Now for stores start your morning. One of the more bizarre NFL stories, bills quarterback, vantera Davis retired at halftime of the game against the chargers. Literally just walked away from the game during the game. He later put out a statement saying, I shouldn't be out there anymore. Nick. What was your reaction to this? The conquers Carter Chris Carter. What was what was the question to ask me at halftime of this game? Or wouldn't we found out about what he was doing at halftime? He decided to do it before the teaming when they went out for the third quarter, he stayed in there. He wanna wait around like he wasn't going to be like, hey, man, it's been good plan with you guys after the game? No. 'cause they would've looked they would be that would, yeah. That's not your normal office space. Someone just decides to quiz. I've never seen anything license said to me, did he used their soap after he decided to retire direction? Absolutely. Used the hot water like you already quit. Like, why are you trying to use the possibilities. Ivanka security guard don't walk him to his core three quarters, eight Peterman three-quarters, Nate Allen. He said, I'm dumbing football forever. Sam darnold came back down to earth and week two. That's where the rest of us live darnold threw for three engined thirty four yards. A touchdown and two picks including one in the end zone in a loss to the Miami Dolphins. Snick your thoughts on darnold and week to get used to this part of his game jets fans. It was excellent week. One came back from the turnover, but a guy who had twenty plus turnovers. His last year USC is not going to magically fix that. His first year in the NFL especially starting from game one eight. This doesn't shake my faith that he can be a high level quarterback in this league. But this you're gonna have days like this darnold turnovers cost to your best chance to win. It doesn't kill my confidence in. You're gonna have plenty of days like this. Also. We might look back in November and December and be like the Miami Dolphins are better football team tonight. Expect it. I called her game last week against the titans. I believe they're one of those four or five teams. It will be much improving two thousand eighteen. So. Combination of rookie going against a team, I believe to be improved. I'm moving on. Andrew luck on his first win of the season threw for two touchdowns and two picks at twenty one to nine win over Washington. See, what did you make of Andrew locks performance this? What we want to see? We don't see Andrew out there. You can't throw. The two picks. One got bad at everything because they're not just going to be able to overcome it, but he's going to be one of the best quarterbacks that we have in the league. He's still got some rust, so I wouldn't be surprised if he just struggled a little bit early, but winning getting your team on the winning bus last week came up a little bit. Short, going against Cincinnati was able to get doesn't big win for him. He's been out of football, right? Big win for him into big win for the colts. Also that Washington, we made their week one dominating win against Zona more about them after Sierra zone. It looks like maybe that was more about Arizona's being Washington. Adrian, Adrian Peterson, I think you had eleven carries for twenty one yards. Surprising but luck. I'm glad he got through another game healthy. The picks. Were bad, but they won by double digits, brutal brutal loss for the Browns. Zane Gonzales, miss two extra points and two field goals, including one to tie it at the end regulation. The Browns are now winless in nineteen straight games. Sorry, Hugh Nick hats off a loss. This. I mean, only the Browns could get a four and five down six forty, five yard touchdown, strike with a minute left and losing regulation. That seems like a riddle. And they, I mean, they had chance after chance I felt. I mean, Zanga solace is, I mean, he'll get cut, I assume today and I don't know who's going to pick them up. I felt terribly for the guy, but that's what happens. They had every opportunity beat New Orleans and couldn't make it bad for form. I was feel that people lose their job man, especially guys that I don't think are going to get that job back. I always feel badly. I understand your feelings or your problem. That's Chris Carter motto. I have a little more empathy, but I've also never lost retired. He's retired. After the game, give them a ride back to Cleveland, and that's it. He's got at one job. That's what the king forget about the the field goals. What about the extra point? You extra? Did they open up the dome in New Orleans? No, they didn't indoors. No, he he's, he's done. He's got to. You got to get rid of them. Look at their Saturday. They cut their white receiver, Josh gorge before they get on the plane. The team was shocked by this. They go down there play well enough to win the game the second week in a row against two playoff teens, and they come away what zero watt ones. Yeah, no Gonzales. Got to go. Final Bill bad. The Rams got a dominant win over the cardinals yesterday. Todd Gurley scored three times all the defense pitched a shutout in a thirty four. Nothing route seat is look like the Rams are the best team in the NFL or is it their competition? Right now, the Rams, though the team I wouldn't want to face if it was a single nation, I wouldn't want to face them because I believe it's harder to get ready for them. They have less weaknesses than other teams. When you can score points the way they can score points by not going to one person, it makes it complicated. So you put pressure on that defense already put pressure on the posing offense that turn. You can't turn the ball over and you have to build to make big plays. The Rams are who we thought they were going to be there. An exciting football team. Their quarterback is getting better. They can throw ball, they can run it. They got a good offensive line. Their one weakness is just perimeter pass rushes. They don't have an elite pass rusher. They got good players, but just not great ones. They got great ones on the inside, but can they get a constant pass rush from the outside? That's the only question Mark that I see on this team is in the second game. Jared Goff has looked. Like year to Jared Goff, and I've been saying if he plays at that level, yeah. Is the best team in the NFL like they have they the aside from that exterior pass rusher to good point by CC, but they have. I mean, they have a plus players at so many. They have an A-plus running back in a wide receiver and cokes good complementary receivers and Cooper Cup and Robert woods. They have an a, an a minus corner and Peter's and a keep to leave an a plus linemen in Aaron Donald. Andrew, Whitworth was an all pro last year. That's their left tackle like you and I think excellent schematic advantages wage, Wade Phillips on defense and Sean McVay on offense that you would think that someone couldn't match Sean McVay because what he's doing offense, I believe he's really, really special people are giving him a lot of tension, everything for his memory, but you memories no good. If you don't have the type of talent that you can orchestrate the way he's doing the play action, pass the creativity in Brandon. Cook added to this offense. It's amazing how much better he is than mentioned and Sammy Watkins all and how they're taking advantage of where he wasn't New England as if McVay talked to Josh mcdaniels and said, I'm going to pick up right where he when he was starting to get hot. If he doesn't get knocked out of the Super Bowl, I believe New England wins in the way he played the last eight games of the season pick right up there in Los Angeles there with the Rams. What was the only question Mark about this Rams team was how their worst now is we're gonna mashing if they were able to, if Wade Phillips can control everybody and so far it's been quiet. Infinite listen, if they're winning, that's not going to be a problem at all. Like guardless we haven't heard any rumblings or anything from giving me the most talented players. People talk about what about locker room? Chemistry me. Give me good. We'll work it out. You think that chiefs talk about what would want more because Peter's back giving what their defense looking like in by the way. One other note from this game, Josh Rosen might be the next rookie quarterback to get a start soon. Sam, Bradford looks. He looked. As bad as you can look and NFL game yesterday and their their season since we get away from ready. So my guess is this, we'll talk about Josh Rosen starting sentenced stressed about last year's bone same night taking, hey, let's talk chiefs and Steelers. Kansas City was looking for the first one in Pittsburgh in thirty years. Patrick Mahomes was going to need to play a near perfect game in order for that to happen. And he did six touchdown passes. He's now got ten in two games that's an NFL record as the chiefs beat. The Steelers on the road Mahomes throwing more touchdown passes than incompletions yesterday, not bad for a quarterback in his third NFL start here is after the game, never expected to have ten touchdowns this point in the season, but I knew what this offense and the weapons that we had in the scheme. Coach read drawing that we had a chance to be really, really good and that the possibilities are endless. I mean, we could really come out every single we can score points. It's all about me getting the ball into those playmakers hands. And you saw. Today, they're breaking tackles and scoring points. Cici talked me a little about Patrick Mahomes how much of it was the adrenaline and being there and playing the Steelers and how much of it was, hey, he's a really good guy who's gonna make some stakes just hasn't made that many in the first two week. It's all skew. It has nothing to do with the German. It's all skill. Randy read has put him in position even from a confidence standpoint because it's one thing to say guy has a big arm, but then how do I call the game? Got sixty plays sixty. Five plays. Do I doubt forty runs because that's what he said about McNab earliest. McNabb is talented, probably one of the most talented throes of ever had. But earlier in the game plans, they ran the ball forty times only letting throw a little bit based on how he's called and lets me know what confidence Andy Reid has them everyone. These highlight I can tell you a textbook reason why right here to hunt. It was a hot read, so he throws it over the linebacker. Gives him the one on one right here. Yes, the white sea outside leverage on the db. He's gotta throw it. Hi, right here has got the. Linebacker, breathe thought his back shoulder every throw. The key was make. He was textbook. Where do you want the football, Kelsey, going down the same guy here linebacker coming your thought back here in the middle of field. We hits Kelsey, low, going into Enzo all these things. No, that's not a German. No, that's not. You can see when he sees a guy open or he feels a guy's going to be open. He lets the ball go. So he has a great deal of confidence. I believe I told Nick this, he'll never play with type of personnel that he's playing with now and Andy Reid. I think this is the most talented team that he put even when they had McNabb and t, oh, they didn't have four or five other guys with the type of speed. This is a four by one track team, though everybody on the team. If you look at spark scores at the combine that basically just pure athleticism. That's the draft him for five years. Chris Conley their number three receiver go look at his vertical leap. Go look at his sparks score yesterday. Pittsburgh tried to. We're not going to punt tyreek hill where frayed of his speed Danta Thomas is the upback of a track star at Oregon? Yeah, art is. We attract start Oregon, he he gets the ball there and he takes it fifty yards to open the game not to the end zone, but the red zone. I listen that Pat will Pat Mahomes make mistakes. Of course he will, but take the young quarterback out of it. How many quarterbacks have ever had more than ten touchdowns in the first two games, nobody. He, he just passed Peyton Manning's record. Payton had nine in the first two weeks, but that was the your Payton had seven in week one. It's up to start. They the chiefs for years ago when all season long without a touchdown pass to wide receiver that happened. And that wasn't terrible. They dinks Dunxin Travis Kelsey, and they already afforded from wide receivers touchdown passes. They got seven guys that have caught touchdown passes. I know we talk a lot about will will deepen to catch up to young quarterbacks. What Chris pointed out. They'll be a regression, I'm sure, but it's hard to catch up to perfectly thrown perfectly. Timed sharp. Passes that as you were talking about, they don't. They don't say no. I mean, he's throwing them on a line this he, I don't know if it's the year of watching. Andy Reid deserve a lot of credit, the skill position guys, but Pat Mahomes as in his third career start, she started week seventeen. Last year looks as sharp and not gimmicks. It's it doesn't even feel like the three important, right? That's important. That's why you'd know it can be duplicated. It's pure NFL. Now they did have a couple touch passes. We're going to see on the speed sweep. I wouldn't say that part. That's that's a main part of pro football now, but that's the only thing that you can say like on that may be inflated numbers or they trick people know they're going to be able to do this. I mean, they remind me a lot of the ninety eight Vikings and the two thousand Vikings ninety eight. We know because Randall Cunningham and the record, but in two thousand Dante Culpepper took over after being a young quarterback light Mahomes and we put up some numbers like they're put putting. They reminded me of the ninety nine Rams as far as fat, like skill position guys everywhere. I mean you obviously the Vikings analogy is a great one, but I just and cream hunts not Marshall Faulk, but he's a guy who can catch out of the back. Is it Bruce and Torry Holt? I mean, we haven't even mentioned the name, Sammy Watkins. If Sammy Watkins is just a nice additional complementary piece. Giving that is. I mean, the defense is what did I said on? I said, gonna win the game. They're worth thirty eight points because I don't think they hold pits. We're going to thirty five. They spent forgot thirty seven and the chiefs won this football. We didn't even miss mentioned, kilson know who was dominant. He's a good player that says a lot. He not only played well, he beat a Steelers team where this franchise hadn't won there in so many years. So what that does for the confidence of a young player has to be huge. Go good. I was going to say on Pittsburgh for move on you. Got you. You got you. Gotta keep in mind. They gave up what forty two points the Jags in their playoff game. They now just gave a forty two to the chiefs. Those are both games in Pittsburgh. They have still not. They seemingly haven't recovered from the Shazia injury as far as that was good until Ryan shazier got hurt last year. The last five weeks last year it was bad. And the first couple of weeks this year. I know Cleveland only scored twenty one, but they, I mean, Pittsburgh's defense is a real concern. Joe Haden was out and that was the problem, a huge problem. I gotta take a break coming up to bogus call, costs the Packers win over the Vikings. That's next. This is the first things first. Back here. First things first, former NFL head coach, Chuck Pagano joins the show. Coach catava back came in, you went lot of football. To break down and discuss. Well, let's start with this one. Nothing says NFL football quite like a tie. We got one last week. We got one this week Vikings Packers. Yes, Aaron Rodgers played. Yes. This one was as good as advertised after questionable. Roughing. The passer called on clay Matthews, nullified Kirk cousins, interception with less than two minutes to go. Cousins found Stefan digs to force overtime. Now their team could score a bit of a heartbreak for the Vikings at least twenty nine, twenty nine. Was your final coach. Let's start with the Packers. How should they feel after this tight, especially when we weren't sure what we were gonna see from Aaron Rodgers. What a gritty performance. First of all by Aaron Rodgers coming out, didn't practice all week and speculation that he wasn't going to play, but gritty, gritty performance. I'm both teams are sitting there had plenty opportunities to win this game. You know Packers out ahead. You get the call twenty two point scored by the Vikings in the fourth quarter of great comeback. Unbelievable. Throwing catch to feeling point was was phenomenal. You know, they're both one on one. It's really early in the season. So from a standing standpoint and the division, a lot of football left, obviously we'll see, you know how it comes into play late as far as the Tigers we. Now, these teams won't be the tiebreaker won't come into play between them at the end of the year because one of them's going to win, we would imagine the game in Minnesota. And so that'll determine that if they finish with the same record, but it's where the Packers are. Men a-rod took a lot of punishment to not come away with the victory. Like I mean, he got sacked four times hit another nine. It seemed like he was constantly under duress. You could see he was not quite himself. Now. He's still played very well. But as far as when you saw him running, he didn't look like the earn Raj. We're used to, but I, I will give a ton of credit to the Vikings offense. I expected the Vikings defense to look like the Vikings defense, but this was you alluded to during the highlight, see this, why you go get Kirk cousins, Kirk cousins, so he can. You can be trailing. Digits in the fourth quarter which they were, and you can throw yourself back into the football game missed opportunity for Green Bay. And I understand the agenda they have from the call on clay Matthews when they thought the game was over. But Kirk cousins played a hell of a football game, especially in the second half. This was a good football game. And from two teams, we expect later in the season to be there. You bring up the point. Why do you go get Kirk cousins? So when you get in the game like this, you need a guy and you can tell the differs, nothing against Sam, Bradford nothing against case. But you can tell the level bit. Kurt brings taken advantage of all the personnel spread the ball around and being in a dual where you can actually forget about the running game. You can rely on the quarterback. That's not a luxury that the Vikings had before. People will talk about the call because that's what we do in fail. One call that it changed the arc of the game, whether the interception and it was. Late, but the referee, Tony Carinthia. He called one earlier on Eric kendricks in the game that was the same type of call. We're going to have these every week. It's been a point of emphasis as far as the quarterback landing on him. What you do is your head off to the side ways your weight on him? Yes, it was a controversial call, but to me, it wasn't a biggest thing in this game. It was a great match up enough seen north ended in a tie. We haven't had ties in the NFL weeks one and we do ten minute overtime is affecting. They brought that in last year and remember like that if people the overtime used to be fifteen minutes to ten minutes, I think that leads to one of these ties I to which the year, you know, you brought up a good point about Aaron Rodgers and whether not whether it was worth it. But whether he took too big of a beating to just walk away with a Thai, do you go back and look and think now and say, was it the right move was not Ryan roof to not walk away with a win. Well, regardless, I mean, you're gonna, you're gonna play that guy and what a warrior. He is. You hate it for a young kicker, Carlson Aguire out there and have opportunities and miss. You know, missed three field goals. They did have a chance to to steal this game. They did have a chance to go to Owen in division which is a, which is a huge thing, huge thing, playoff implicate, all those kind of things. But you know, the game came down to the way it came down to, and again, bowl teams, head opportunities to to win that thing. It didn't work out. So you go back, you got to watch the tape, make the corrections and you got to move on. And the reason why you don't regret it coaches because the athlete didn't get hurt. He didn't have a setback. You'd like to build a win the game. And I believe in plain them, it helped bring balance to their offense. They ran the ball twenty four times. And the reason why was because Aaron Rodgers was hurt, so I believe it will pay dividends. He didn't have a setback, he'll probably be ready. For next week and the philosophy. We need to balance this thing out. I believe if they take that forward, it was benefiting them in a half game is a half game because if he doesn't play, you lose, you got no chance lose and you're down in that Tiber because I was wearing up earlier so that that part is important. I called you move onto a player that you coach with the colts cornerback vantera Davis. He retired at halftime of the bills game against the chargers. Like literally just walked away from the game during the game later, put out a statement, saying, quote, I shouldn't be out there anymore. Here's his teammate, Lorenzo Alexander afterwards. Never seen it ever pop mourner, high-school college pros, never heard of it. Never seen it, and it's just completely disrespecting went to his teammate. I coach, what did you make of this when you read about when you heard about it? Belief, I was in, I was in shock. You know, I spent a lot of time with vantera. We shared a lot of great moments together. I've seen this guy play at at the highest level. You know, I'm not in that man shoes. I trade for him. Yes, we did. You trade it for and also to twelve from the dolphins. You put in the most? I mean, dependable situation. He was traveling around at his best when he made the Provo, you had him garden the best receiver. So he's a guy that you had a lot of respect a lot of confidence in a lot of responsibility. Yeah, no doubt about it. And again, it's timing is everything timing on this one obviously is it's a head scratcher, but this good kid again, I don't know where he's at physically where he's at emotionally. You hate to see this for that organization to bills right now, sitting at Owen two, they, they don't need the distraction. They didn't need this obviously. But you know, I wish the best for this kid, you know, moving forward. And if he's done with football, which which you probably is at this point, I think that's obvious. That's a mute point. But again, it's it's hard. Listen, we've guys retire midseason often. We've seen some great players go in with another team, realize this is I'm not as good as I thought I was at my. Body's not in the shape. It's the fat. If he had retired today. I don't think anyone, it's not a story. I mean, it's a story for the bills, but it's listen. This guy that gave five million dollars this off season. It's contract is guaranteed played a couple of games, realize I don't have it. Maybe they try to claw some of that money back, but it's the during the gain that makes this huge story. Like see the bills weren't going to win this game meat, either way. But what is what? How does that message filter throughout the team in the second half and how does that affect other guys on the team? I mean it it doesn't filter at all because the one thing that we say, even the players, the coaches, we detach ourselves from the front office. It's like it's us like we're in this together. And if you've nothing else, you can depend on me as your brother and it's just not something we've ever seen before. I've seen guys could at training camp. I seen guys come in at lunch Turney room keys in. A playbook and say, this is not for me, but we just don't see veteran players guys who have made a lot of money off this business because there's a way to do things, and I don't want a guy out there. His mind is not into it. So I do have a little bit of understanding. I don't want you out there for thirty minutes. People say, well, why didn't you wait until after the game with someone can really get hurt? If you don't have your mind in the right place if you're not sold out to what you need to do for your body and for your teammates? No, he shouldn't be out there. I would have thought that he got thirty minutes football left any and then he can quit today. Well, even into tell me if I'm wrong, even if he realizes I can't be out there. He can go. I would imagine to the coaches and say, I can't play anymore today, like kill fine. Me whatever it is I can't, but that's different than putting on your street clothes, showering showering, drink lows, and leave in during the football. And I'm just going to say this and, and I'm a. Kevin love and what he did this year. Totally different circumstance as far as him struggling within Zaidi man. We don't know what people are going through. We think we're sitting on our couch like, man, these guys got a glamorous job, man. There's some ugly parts to football and the my last year plan in Miami, and I got my kidney and my kidney was only working twenty percent. I passed through to me Tyrone hit me and I wish I could quit later on that season drop the touchdown for us to potentially send us into the playoffs against the Vikings in Metrodome me chop the easy touchdown. Pam, and I wish I could acquit mentoring no easy way to get out of this business. But I do respect. I don't know where he was mentally and for him to be a shutdown corner and for him to decide at halftime. I don't want to be there. I'm going to try to respect his mental state also even know upset at the decision he made, there's no doubt about it. And I think he wakes up obviously. This morning and he's saying, you know what doing just what you're saying. Should've finished shouldn't let my brothers down. It's a brotherhood and you know that first and foremost in that locker room. You know, I finished a game and then go about your business, but you're right. We don't know where he's had physically where he's mentally. I always believe this man like a carpenter. I like to sign off on my work every day. Like, would you do? I did that. What is too high? Five for eighty? Would you do now? He can't sign off on network. You can't sign off on that right there unless there was something really going on his head. You can't sign off on and every day. That's what I try to pry my phone. I'm a sign off on the work that I did and that right there that what he signed off on and it's just not for player for player. Like you said, proble player, shutdown corner is time. Now this is his football epitaph like, this is what he will. 'cause he wasn't a great enough player that he had a legacy quote unquote beforehand, if people Monty Davis and people remember in five years, the guy that quit during the game that's brutal on that. Totally. You spent a lifetime building up this and one decision? Yes. Can tear it down and Rb coach stick around more to discuss coming up house, Blake, Bortles able to outduel Tom Brady next on first things. First. Back here. First things first with coach, Ghana coach, one of the biggest surprises of the weekend Jags and pats rematch of last year's ABC title game. But in name only while the patriots got the best of Blake Bortles last year it was quite a different story. Last night, Tom Brady couldn't get it done Bortles throwing four touchdowns three hundred seventy seven yards in the Jaguars win Brady did at two hundred and thirty four yards and two touchdowns in the patriots loss. Here he is after the game. A better job, and then I was not certainly our best effort know, give them a lot of credit. They played good. You know, they make it tough on you on on our offense or defense, and. You know, we just could never string a place together. I coach, how did the patriots lose this game? Those gray win, obviously for Jacksonville. And I think first and foremost got off to a fast start. You know, they jump out to a twenty one, three lead at half the quarterback Bortles. We just talked about him. He played announced, ending football game, four touchdown passes. I think only one turnover, three hundred seventy seven yard make great decisions. Got the ball spread around. He was phenomenal. The defense obviously did a great job holding gronk to catches fifteen yards. And then you know, all the criticism that they took in the AFC championship game about getting conservative. You know, they kept the foot on on the gas and they stayed aggressive, and that's why they came away with twin. All credit in the world to the Jacksonville Jaguars who even though Vegas had this is a pick em game. Essentially, I thought the patch we're going to come in and remind everyone. We're the best team in the AFC Jacksonville, despite all the great story of last year was at ten win team in at the time a week division. I thought we was going to be a resetting. Of who's who in the AFC and maybe wasn't resetting. But in the opposite direction that I expected that the Jags out patriot the patriots. The Jags did the score before half get the ball score right after half for a ten point swing. The Jags looked at the pats and said, what do you want to do? What do you do best? Oh, pass rob gronkowski. We are taking that away and seeing if you can beat us with your being see stuff and the patriots couldn't the Jags also most notably coach makes a great point learned from their mistakes. Last year against this team and said, if we lose, it's not going to be because we stopped being aggressive. They were aggressive up to an including up eleven with two and a half minutes left throwing the football as opposed to just playing the clock. Bortles played the best big game. I've ever seen him play keeling. Coal took the insult that he'd been getting league wider in media-wide as far as Jags got no number one receiver made the catch of the year and some huge plays. I. Cannot complement Jacksonville highly enough about how they played start to finish in this football game. I last week's conversation, Nick, you pointed out a couple of times during the press conference. You're like a Chris New England said, this is a big game. Do you? I was like, I'll take note of. And then on Thursday, Friday Brady said, it was a big game. Grunk said it was a big game. Brady said it was a big game. So this is not as if New England will surprise by Jacksonville, they know what's going on in divall county. They realized the personnel and they have a lot of respect for them and for them to do that. After you know, New England had a great deal of focus on them to me, that's a credit to Jacksonville and something they should be able to move on going forward. But they're coaching staff being aggressive in their play. Cone, their ability to build a throat, a ball on first down nineteen times on first down, they decided to throw almost sixty percent of the time and thirteen times Bortles because it's something have a game plan coach, but. Guys don't execute it. Blake was able to get them and get the ball to the to the offense of weapon to build a take advantage, two things about New England's defense that you should know Logan, Ryan, the corner he can be had their linebackers in man-to-man have never been good. So if you play all that man to man and you can get the ball to your running back to your tidy and take advantage of their lack of coverage skill at their linebacker position. That is the recipe to try to beat New England. Last time, these two teams played. The one knock on Jackson was that they weren't aggressive. They came out in the second half and they kind of relied on that that lead they had and that was the end of it. And then Doug Marrone heard about this all off season long. How much of that as a player or as a coach sort of sticks you like you remember the last time you played at team and they can talk all we can game plan all off season, but you remember who they were, who you thought they were the last time he played. Does that factor in at all to the patriots off the Jags we're going to do no doubt about it because you're gonna look at everything that you. You did in in the season, two thousand seventeen, and you're going to make the corrections and you're going to say, okay, look, we're one of the top teams in the they got a great roster. They're playing a physical brand of football. You know, with Tom Coughlin there in Doug Marrone. Got great respect for both of those coaches, Doug doing a great job, but they out physical in the trenches, we always say, you got to be able to run the football and stop the run to win a National Football League. And I know it's becoming a passing league and I know and people are in three wides like sixty five seventy percent of the time now, but yelled five point eight per carry. I think they held a New England three point four yards per carry. And I know they got behind a little bit and they had to throw it a catch up and probably got away from the run game. But this physical tough athletic fast football team that, like you said, Bortles he's playing for all the stuff he's been through. Yes, and all the joke. He's taking the criticism that he's taken over the last four or five years. This guy's playing lights out and the pats game plan was clearly did. Not change with the news for net was not going to play. They played the Jags as if for net was back there and they thought that was going to get thirty carries let right. They were jamming the box, almost the entire game, daring. Blake Bortles to beat them and the Jags pivoted intelligently. One other note for the patriots. You mentioned slow linebackers. Logan. Ryan can be had week one that d- line in the front looked very good. They were playing one of if not the worst offensive line in football in Houston. We do. They're playing a Jacksonville team that by the way during the game lost their left tackle, but they sell of Andrew norwell. They're big free agent acquisition that offense blinds on the strength of their team and Bortles was clean. The whole game New England could not even pretend to fabricate a pass, rush that now we're at least moderate concerns for New England offensively at all three levels. Can they get a pass rush? Do they have speed it linebacking core? And do they have a corner other than stuff on Gilmore that you actually believe in those are all things. Watch how many question. We've seen these guys in this predict the plate. Let's not write off the patch. No doubt. Always. Thanks so much for today. This morning coming up, how has Ryan Fitzpatrick keeping the magic alive? It's magic. It's neck. No first things. First. Welcome back to the eagles loss in a minute, but first Jaguars wide receiver keeling coal with an incredible one handed cat. I watched us with Stephanie live. She goes CC's gonna love this. Catch. All that was amazing season best. Then he followed it up with a couple other place after that, but the ability. I mean, it's one thing to snag it like that, but to have enough control that you're going to the ground and different put his hand in there. So he was able to keep it out in front of them. I mean, that is that's nine point, seven. That's the gloves. Me always the gloves. What's Packers? Kirk cousins, fines. Adam feeling for an incredible twenty two yards tried throw. We'll talk about Adam feeling. This is Kirk cousins, beaten covered to ten man, squeezes it in there, and I thought this was for sure broken up of watching this live, where's the football? It's in the receivers, and you can't bring. It up while you can do is destroy defender. That's what he. That's why he avoid them had to get a little shallow. I finally North Texas kick returner Kagan brewer pulls off the fake, fair catch against Arkansas. Okay. Those ninety yards for the score the NFL's taken away in college. Football would agree the fake knee as soon as you like even motioned towards Anita, usually just whistle it. I love the fake, fair catch what longs it's underneath the shoulder. It's okay. That's illegal. Anytime you move your hands left or right? They say, above your shoulder, but anytime you wave your arm is supposed to, they should have thrown the flag on this. He waived his right hand a little bit, especially at the beginning of Arkansas paid a million dollars to have that happen. There stadium. Moving on of wave right since Patrick who is starting this season on which cloud. I know cloud nine. He had four hundred yard four touchdown win in week one and four hundred. You had four touchdown win in week two. This one over the defending Super Bowl champion eagles. Nick foles had a decent outing throwing for three hundred thirty four yards and a touchdown, but it wasn't enough eagles are one in one the bucks or two on the year. Here's what's Patrick joined the moment after the game. I think we just developed a lot of confidence in the off season through training camp with how we worked in the way things were going in the report with the guys. I think that confidence is carried over into the season. That. I got like two more because DJ needs stuff, fish. Yeah, I borrowed your stuff. Sorry. What is mine. The best part of that is that he comes out answers a question, maybe more. No one said anything. And then they're like, oh, by the way. Back to back aims the quarterback, David got to address that before him. That's great. Make you buying the Ryan Fitzpatrick hype after second straight four touchdown game Fitzpatrick all the credit in the world. First time he's had back to back super high quality game since twenty fifteen. We talked last week that we'd seen him have one really good game that was always followed by either a mediocre or downright awful game. So the first time since that Rome with the jets had were strung two of these. The other back toback what I am buying into his. He has reignited to Sean Jackson to show Jackson was their major off season at last year. James never got on the same page with Sean Jackson, who is a deep ball threat. And James actually last year was the thirty third rated passer on deep balls anybody to Sean Jackson, Mike Evans. And so in that regard, I am buying, I am buying his deep ball ability. I, I don't think all of a sudden Ryan Fitzpatrick one of the ten. Quarterbacks and football, but he didn't have to always be one of the best quarterbacks football. He's been one of the three best the first two weeks of the year. And because of that bucks team that's without their starting quarterback due to suspension start off to ano with two wins over teams that at least I thought we're going to be to the best teams in football this year in New Orleans and Philly. Yet cutter had the reputation of being one of the best play collars in the league. When he got the Tampa job, we saw James growing his game. And then last year we saw what happened. He didn't continue to grow, got suspended this off season and what we see, not only with Jack reemerging as one of the best deep threat since he's been in the league. But you see the timing of the offense. That's one reason why I can believe because I've seen versions of this Randall Cunningham nineteen ninety eight, Brad Johnson gets hurt. Early. Randall comes on to be the MVP had never thrown the football. Like he threw the football in ninety eight. I play. It with rich Gannon in nineteen ninety and ninety one in Minnesota. Then he went on as a journeyman went on Kansas City. Then ultimately found magic with Gruden and in with the Oakland Raiders and was MVP of the league. So we have seen quarterbacks that had good are mediocre stats catch fire, late new career with the right coordinator with the right personnel around him. Do I believe they can continue version of this? I do believe they can't. Now they're going to have to build a run the ball, and he can't get hit those two things. And these first two games against Super Bowl, champs and against a playoff team and the saints. Biggest surprise of the NFL season is Fitzy and Tampa. Baby to know is it on a table at all that he sort of takes over the position that when James is able to come back, maybe Fitzpatrick is the guy that they want in their specially if he's now having a better report with Sean Jackson. See, I I don't think it's just on the table if they win Monday night in pits. For against Pittsburgh. Pardon me at home to start three and with wins over the saints eagles and Steelers by think he's the starter now, maybe not for the entire year, but I think if there's three and I think he's got to be the starter in week, four, right? Like I don't think that's an overreaction at all, not just because of what the record but how how they got there three and if they were winning thirteen ten, then the okay, let's get back to our franchise quarterback. But if they win Monday, I think he keeps the job. I think he stay in the job. He's played to well, people say, well, you don't lose your job to injury. No one got injured. Someone got suspended in James's play in two thousand seventeen. In then this question behavior off the field as a leader of the team. Look at the team. It's hard. It's hard to bench. I'm wearing. Another guy's close in a press conference is buttoned up as these press conferences are, and the way the NFL quarterbacks don't tell you anything. They give you the normal. Oh, let's go communications, three hundred. Oh yeah. We're going to try hard and. Look at the film all the normal quotes in everything that was amazing to see. And you can see that they've captured something offensively and has a lot to do with Fitzpatrick ability. They can spread the field and get the ball to wherever the coverage gonna dictate. And when they give me big shots, hitting those big shots down the field, it's hard to bench that what happened to the eagles last night they easily could have lost their first game. They went out and lost their second game. Where are we with this? I think it's listen. We can set the offense aside and foles played well yesterday because they don't have their quarterback right now. But I have all of a sudden real concerns about the secondary, this football team, and I don't think they're unfair. You can say, oh, well, they just held Atlanta in the team. Yeah, they did, but Atlanta got in the red zone five times against Philadelphia, Tampa did what they did yesterday with twenty five minutes time of possession. How do you have twenty minutes time possession? We have to separate one place, seventy five yard touchdown drives though played into Sean start the. And then the OJ Howard play where it looked like no one had any interest in tackling in the Phillies secondary. The Phillies secondary was the only part of their last year. I had questions about and us far this year I especially after yesterday I have real questions about it last year. Carson Wentz got hurt in week number fourteen fourteen in week. Sixteen seventeen would eagles do the eagles in week sixteen seventeen. They want they want an ugly gaming. It's the raiders. Oh, go ahead. They played maybe a lot like they played the first two games. Oh, sure. So it's the Nick foles thing. Besides those two games in the ship Vikings at home and the Super Bowl, if you change to quarterback play, like we could still be Philadelphia's. The favorite NFC of Carson Wentz is in there. I believe Carson Wentz is going to be coming back. This is Nick. Foles. Nick full. The team is not responding. Also out. Schon Jefferies is out. Defense has not played as well. So I'm not going to say. In the NBA because Golden State so dominant. I don't think we're used to someone else winning the Super Bowl in NFL and and realizing there's thing called Super Bowl hangover and maybe not. Now they don't have a hangover, but they didn't have a little drinking a little bit a little bit stumbling either next. Yes, like so, right, I they don't have starting quarterback so I don't want to say fully, go, hang over but really push press clippings doing all the autographs doing sessions doing all the parents is talking about New England house, not too much fun. How much fun is it in Philadelphia now. Own to how much fun is one on one on one. How much fun is it now like, right, because that's all they talked about, oh, we have so much fun. We have so much fun. It's fun when you're winning. So it's just a story that we must watch in the should get a boost to their offense. When Carson Wentz comes back soon, there's report during the game that about him being cleared to practice. It sounds like he should be back for week. Three certainly could use him coming up. Take a break, perhaps the most devastating loss in the history of one of the NFL's most tortured franchises next on first things. First. On Sunday. It is a great slate of NFL action starting with saquon Barkley the giants taken onto Shawn Watson in the Texans, then it's America's game of the week is equally and those Cowboys battle Russell Wilson in the it's all on Fox Sports app. Check your local listings for the gaming, your area. I'm Bruce Sunday ticket folks or folks watching in New Orleans. Atlanta or guy sees going to be on the call, huge game for the saints and falcons Sunday ticket holder. Now, Lord, I'm watching your game. See, I'll text you every three minutes. Amazing. He already has a headache time to go viral. Now, Browns kickers. Angan Zala had a data forget against the saints, missed an extra point to take the lead with under two minutes. Then missed the game, tying field goal with eight seconds left. So of course, Twitter unleashed on him with comments like brutal, you gotta go and I hope you stub your toll every morning for the rest of your life. Except there was one problem. They were tweeting. The wrong Zanga Zola's who replied almost to kindly with guys. I'm just a college baseball coach, relax, spat luck for the college baseball coach, the sea has no empathy for San Gonzales to your job is I think what you said earlier. I feel badly for the guy who, because I know he's going to be out of work and not get another shot. His dream, I feel bad. If you're losing your job, how many people out there it'd be feeling bad for you. I don't know though there were some just some impetus for him now I am minded. Do you remember the moment in hard knocks, of course, during Todd Haley kicker makes a field goal comes off. Zane Gonzales comes off the field. Says Haley off, he's like good job. Bleeping kicker. They're going to be getting a new bleeping kicker. I would imagine this week. Damn Bailey is on. It's just one more chapter and this franchising can't get out from under Nieves that way time for some stories start your morning. The Rams got a dominant win over the cardinals. Todd Gurley scored three times while this defense pitched a shutout in thirty four, nothing route seat is a look like the Rams are the best team in the NFL right now. Absolutely. If you look at what might be a weakness on this team full of a bunch of superstars, do they have an outside rusher get outside pressure. That's it. That's what you gotta get real real picky. I love what Wade is doing with that defense. People were concerned about the personalities. I didn't think the personalities would be a concern and getting off to the fast start. It really helps those veteran dominated ball club and Brandin cooks has been a lights out. Addition for them swapped out. Sammy Watkins. They trade for. Brandin cooks, they give them the contract extension. I'm sure saying we walk ins wanted and he has been outstanding. Jared Goff continues to play. Watch out at the level. He did last year which lovely played this year. They're the best team in the NFL. I moving onto the Chason Steelers, Patty Mahomes threw six touchdown passes the chiefs beat the Steelers on the road for the first time in thirty years. Mahomes already has ten touchdown passes the most ever through the first two weeks of the NFL season knick would you make of all his success? Not only is it record breaking a dozen appear to be smoke and mirrors. It doesn't appear to be fabricated. These are perfectly placed perfectly timed football's to anybody that's open. I mean, amazing distributions route like he looks like a mature veteran out there in his third career start. And I mean, you can't speak highly enough. The guy that's gonna be player of the week this week. He's got a special arm. Andy Reid, you can tell by how much companies have them by the variety of the routes. Right here. The pump route to Kelsey, the linebackers. Let me put on his back shoulder. Oh, they're gonna blitz. Me. Let me go to my running back who's in man to man. So Utah per spice, precise. His reads were amazing in his district distribution for a young quarterback away. He's getting the ball to this town that crew this going to be exciting to see. I leave the cheese. Offense is for real. I we end with the Panthers falcons game, Matt, Ryan was impressive. Threw for two touchdowns ran for two more Cam Newton had a big day, but the Panthers defense couldn't slow down, Maddie ice, see how important was this bounceback performance for Atlanta. Oh, this was critical. I mean, what? They're going through far as division of banged up Carolina team coming in into Mercedes-Benz new stadium there with the falcons they had to win this game. They had to win this game to build to. They should have one week number one played well enough to win, and you can't continue to move the ball and struggle in the red zone. On the way they did last season and then they way they did in number one. So huge win at home division rival Cam has had some success going against the falcon. So they needed this win for Dan Quinn. Get those falcons back on the winning track, get the one in one and the way they won absolutely matters. Just like the way they lost and week. One matter we talked and we won. I thought it was the worst way for the falcons to lose two for red zone to be the reason you underachieve last year for your season and with first and goal inside the ten against philli, and you lose a game, you're down less than touchdown. And there's some starts first and goal inside the tag Philly down less than touchdown. You lose. They were one of five in the red zone week one yesterday, four trips, four touchdowns that is enormous. Like the only thing that was standing between the falcons and achieving at least close to the success. They had two years ago was red zone officiency, and they were perfect yesterday against a good defense, the pan. Thor's banged up, but the painters are banged up on offense and the falcons did it without the starting strong safety, the starting middle linebacker, both of whom were lost to injury in week one, then their replacement strong safety got thrown out of the game less than one quarter in for a vicious hit on Cam, and we found out leading up to the game devante Freeman, they're starting running back was going out. So Atlanta was doing it short handed on both sides of the ball. And while Cam ended up with good numbers, they, he got a lot of those late when it was a to score game like the falcons had a fourteen point lead for a bulk of the second half or at least bulk of the fourth quarter before Carolina scored late. So I mean, this was a dominant performance by Atlanta after Carolina got off to an early lead. All right. Let's move on now to Josh Gordon, the Browns announced they will part ways with their embattled wide receiver. Later today in ramp port is reporting that the team will be able to trade Gordon by this afternoon and added that the compensation should be legit. Adam Schefter just tweeted the Browns of feel. At least eight to ten teams calls about teens at potential traits for Josh Gordon's. So there is interest out there. See, what is your reaction to this whole situation? A first reaction is eight or ten teams of called then. His answering the question, was it drug related? The answer would be no, because there wouldn't be. They thought he was going to be suspended, banned permanently. These teams wouldn't be called. And so that part in their information research is is backing out that supposedly what happened was he went to a promo shoot on Friday. He did release some video on Instagram him at the photo. Shoot. He showed up Saturday late and saying that his hamstring was bothering him, and he was going to be ruled out of Sunday's game. So something must have happened in the promo shoot, which is irresponsible of him to be running around on a Friday night. You're starting receiver in NFL and given that you don't understand like where you are like. Does no one that should be appreciating sports more than Josh and the amount of support because there's no other profession that would support it Josh through all these years. And you can see that's one of the things that upset me and I keep bringing it up about cap. How cap can't find a job. He can't get a job, but we have in in in three days, Seattle, they decide to sign Michael, Michael kidron who's not awaiting trial. He's guilty. He's awaiting sentencing. He's pled guilty to a felony they signed. They signed him and wanted to play him tonight. Yes, they were told can't play tonight, like or for some reason that change, they're not playing him tonight like the he admitted Michael Kendrick, sorry to interrupt you. But I mean, I. It's exasperated Josh Gordon, who I, I've root for Josh, but come on shows up late. He shows up injured outside of football, and you're mentioning that they don't think instruc- related. But Mary Kay cabinet reported and she is as buttoned up on a team. Anybody can be with the Browns that they thought he was not himself. Well, it doesn't violate his the league's drug policy if he's been drinking, and that's what it seemed the report was alluding to, but the drinking Josh's pass has led to other things. And we got a third of the league calling Cleveland because you know what, even if he is unfortunately bit of a ticking time bomb, maybe we can squeeze a few weeks of football out of. I mean, it's it's amazing to me what they'll do, but. I'm concerned and I'm concerned about the things I heard about Josh, that people don't know about this summer that might lead to a relapse or him his judgment not being at its best. And this is not people. This is not just new news, Josh. I remember talking four years ago, had someone call Josh's high school coach and asked him, what do you think Josh is doing right now? And he said, he's probably either medicating himself and sometime either drinkin- are getting high in some form or fashion like that was his, I guess it wasn't like, I don't care where he is. What state, what city. I know this is the state because this is the state. This guy that's at MIT. He said he's been struggling. Start taking Xanax when he was thirteen like this is not skies twenty-seven. He's been struggling with this more than half of his life like this is football, typically is the cure for a lot of things that don't seem to be the cure. For him. So I'm concerned about as will being. And I would just be careful if I'm one eight or ten teams at the Cleveland Browns couldn't do it. There's no magic in of the uniforms of those any of those other buildings. So I just think that people they're stuck on two thousand thirteen. When I don't believe the talent level is that the level of two thousand thirteen. You wouldn't believe that if any team knows him and knows what he's capable of, especially today would be the Browns who have given him multiple chances who have supported him in multiple ways. For a number of years, they have waited out his suspensions. They have supported him. They brought him back in and then to further them to finally say, that's it. Like, that's our final straw, whatever it was and it could be the hamstring and it could be the promotional shoot. It could be maybe he was a little off or it could be the culmination of everything, but something had to finally. Felt bad to live for him again. I mean, that's may wanna do it. They didn't wanna do it anymore, and I don't. Well, I root for Josh. I don't blame the Browns at all rounds, win above and beyond any obligation to the player. Now it wasn't selfless. It might have been partially selfless, but they thought they were getting at some point that version of Josh Gordon back and the rest of the leaguer. Third of the league, I would imagine the Dallas Cowboys and a bunch teams that need wide receivers saw that touchdown catch and week one. That was a great play, saw flashes of who he had been and said, I think that football player can help and they're going to help us. And so the fact that it's being reported that it's real draft compensation, I would've thought it was if he gets treated, it's for a conditional seventh round pick if he gets treated for something real, a real pick that is to me, that would be shocking because you don't. You can't expect to have this guy for anything more than a couple of games as a bonus. At this point. It's unfortunate, but that's where we're at me test Bryan out there. Big mad does Brian, no job for moment coming up. How is Prescott able to right the ship with a win over the giants next on first things. First. Back here. First things. First with one of our funnier guests warmer Pro Bowl, linebacker bark. Join over here all day. Mcquaid have had. Monty davis. Matter of fact, I'm still cow stale. It's only Monday. I can't take this. Three quarters, three quarters. Mcgahey saying then here, but Applebee's. Let's not some Cowboys giants. Both teams looking for their first win and while the g. men touted the more powerful offense of weapons Odell and saquon. Neither player had a big showing on the other side deck Prescott through for just one hundred sixty yards, but his defense helped him out. Cowboys get the first win with twenty two thirteen win over the giants here is deck Prescott after the game. Wasn't the only one who accepted that challenge. This team accepted that offense accepted it, and we wanted to go out there and it's just show these via they just hopeless. Plain simple. You know, they came out. And they beat us. Obviously, guys are guys are disappointed, and some guys would be frustrated it has as we should, but we can't let that affect preparation or practices. So we gotta we gotta bounce back and and you know, come back not be on the road again next week and face a good Houston team. So you know, nothing's nothing's get fixed, you know, by itself or complaining, it's about stepping up and making a difference and fixing things. I watch this game how far off our Eli manning and the giants after this loss to the Cowboys lost twice with the soup debt. It's horrible. Listen, they're trying to find your way just last the first week they were dealing with four pass rushers, so I'm sure they went in. Listen, we're going to be on point. We're gonna stay inside out. We're going to anchor, but what they forgot to talk about was passing stunt t. e. stunt me games and you'll get an Email is spot doused in a tremendous job in tacking the GAP's getting off his spot. And he starts seeing the rush late in the game, not the same quarterback. Everybody in that organization doesn't want to admit it, but they have to because now he's really out of excuses. He's not a mobile guy starting to catch up with him. I thought, you know, I've been very critical of Eli manning, but I don't think there's many quarterbacks yesterday. Now it is for the season. I, I'm wrong. But yesterday I don't think there's many quarterbacks that would have succeeded given what the Cowboys front was doing to the giants offensive line throughout that football game. Can I see my pin? It was simple. You know what you have to do when somebody's attacking Gat is you slide to coverage. That's what you slide the protection, right? So you slide to protect into the rice. I most t- stunts came. Against flowers, mommy. So what you do is you leave your the highest payed left tackle on island and tell them to do his job, but they didn't have faith in that so they didn't make the necessary judgments. Simple fix. I'm not sure you need your pen to write that down. I got my pin with me. Is there something? Can we flip it? Can we give Dallas credit? I mean, Zeke, we know they got Zeke. We know that he gets a lot of attention, but maybe if we just changed optics, bark, just teach me is, could this just be like Jacksonville, light, Baltimore, like the jets defense of dominated team and still win you? Ten games get you. The point is Nick and win ugly, right? And they got, they got tremendous front seven in the back, I think is underrated. But what I think they did Dowsett a great job of when when when Jerry Jones speaks, I listen. And what he said is he wants to see more like Jared Goff, and he wants to see that play more like Cam Newton and just say, we saw that we saw a bit of a college offense. We saw Nick foles used that same RPO, but it wasn't so much about the RPO. It seems like deepens events for the New York Giants fell put banana tailpipe kept flattened down and forgot. That was a mobile quarterback and Dak had to make sure that he was willing to be that quarterback and be able to use that type of offense. Like I said, all the time, a lot of times black quarterbacks don't wanna be considered a mobile quarterback. They wanna show that they can beat you from a pocket, but of guy gave you gifts then use them, and he used them yesterday and use them very effectively. And I think Zeke works better in that type of offense as well, because that's what he did tremendously under urban Myers and let and deck yesterday did look more mobile than we've seen at any point is career Titus crew, hyper rushing yards. It's only forty five, he got that yesterday and you saw it. He was reading whether or not that defensive in collapsed in very well maybe Barwick's. He's, he made Connor look bad on one play in particular in one play where the D. And read it well, Dak actually was able to make him miss or shake him off. So it was right. I will give him credit for that. But passing wise Dak was what we've seen now over the last ten games over the last. This is the time in ten games Dax been held under two hundred. Yards passing. I two drives. He was four or five for eight yards. That means the rest of the game hit seventy two yards on twelve of twenty passing like that. I mean, so we, the Dak was still an Cowboys. Offense was highly limited despite the opening drive strike to take on Austin. Now you saw him running more and he looked a little more comfortable, but the reason they won this game is because their defense force the giants into with that. It was just check down, check down, check down to the giants. Odell never got going unlike week. One like the defense is what deserves credit for this way, but you have less concerns over what this offense put out there because we had some real concerns about this. Dallas Cowboys offense, maybe couldn't do anything, and you didn't have a great game, but he found a way to get this team to win even if it wasn't a game management type situation they did with those did a couple years ago. They warm down. It was about the attempts. I thought on the other side, the giants have enough Russian attempts to try slow defense down. When you have to deep safeties. You have a light box. You have the advantage. So you have. Advantage to run, you have to be willing to win ugly in the giants weren't patient enough to really go through that progression. I think Dow's warm down and win. The giants need defense, neither stop. They couldn't come up with the stop. They continue him, hit him and Dak and Zeki. Oh, I think just marked right down to fill and warm down. Yeah, Dallas has to believe in their identity and it takes some time miss some time with the offense of Lyman. Zach, Mark missed, extended time training camp. We know about the center. He's gonna be out indefinitely. So if they can just adapt this philosophy, I will be okay with it. I just don't think that they're going to do that. That wants to be a dropback for a number of different reasons, and it's just not sexy to build a wind games, ugly let. But at the end of the day, they take him pitchers. Are they doing just keeping your record? Did you win or did you lose not how you did it? So I believe if they want to win, they're gonna have a lot of games where that froze under two hundred yards. But that's where they get themselves into the playoff adopting philosophy. And stick into week in and week out. We'll see a lot of games like we saw last night. I went to three consecutive AFC championship that same recipe. Now why that wants to be in the pocket quarterback because he wants to get paid more like her cousins and not more like Andy Dalton with options for the team to get out. So he understands he has chasing those numbers as well. And the numbers are going to be what they put on a desk when they when they evaluate is his contract. But here's the other concern for Dallas that isn't at least entirely on deck. It is who he's throwing to. It has been a theme all off season. See, I play the game. They throat Alan Hearns, right? You get to catch on the first play of the game, and then they couple plays later, play action to Bill, suck the linebackers up though in between them and they get Alan Hearns I play the is couple plays later on, Austin goes sixty four yards. And from that moment forward, both of those two guys were targeted once each like. So they Alan her Ted one catch in week one this week to Ellen Hearns head. One catch on to targets like he's supposed to be the guy that can get. Yards. Non-existent. Tabin made the one big play after that. Non-existent like no flash, say it again, all on flash all in on flash, urban taught. What does it Gordon? Oh, all flash Gordon. Okay. Sorry, I thought I didn't know what you're talking about. I think they're, I think they're making a. I think the Cowboys are one of the ten teams that are calling about them. They have to be right. Absolutely. I mean, you know, he played his ball in that David Ervine suspended. Now Randy, Gregory just came back from suspension. He'll fit right on big you. That's what I'm talking about. Parts stick around coming up going. I'm retired. No, don't do this call cost the Packers win over the Vikings next month. I think Spurs. Says NFL football quite like a tie bar. We got one last week. We got one this week Vikings Packers. Aaron Rodgers did play, and it was as good as advertised after questionable. Roughing. The passer was called on clay Matthews, nullified at Kirk cousins, interception with less than two minutes to go. Cousins, found stiff on digs to force overtime. Neither team could score twenty nine twenty nine was where this one ended clay Matthews was not happy with the call after the game. I don't even know where it's starting to be honest with you. I mean, I have so many emotions running through as far as. Terrible call it was. But at the same time. I don't know what else to do. I mean, I don't know you let me know. Tell me I put pressure on them. You know, I thought I hit him within, you know, waist to chess, got my head across, put my hands down and the call at that point in the game is just, I mean, it's unbelievable last week. Okay. You know, shame on me, but this week. That's unbelievable. So and the worst part is we'll probably send it in and you know what they're gonna say, you know, they'll find fault on me 'cause they're gonna. They're gonna agree with the rest. So I don't know a difficult call to call. And I mean, you see how it changed the game, and I know there's an emphasis on protecting quarterbacks leads. I mean, has gotten out of control your. I don't know what else to do. At least he's not upset about it. So that's good part. Would you make the call? I mean, you have to get through one, maybe two, three hundred fifty pound men. People to outweigh you probably about one hundred miles. They're trying to take your head off and then now you supposed to put on air brakes and levitating Jamiroquai when you hit the quarterback, I don't understand how they expect defenders to be able to do this. He hit him at the ways you already have struck in target and you have to remember most quarterbacks at your tackling are bigger than you. So most of the people that's tackling quarterbacks Cam Newton, Ben Rothlisberger Andrew luck. They outweigh the defendant actually hitting them and then you expect them to be able to hit you gently or softly. At the end of the day, this is a physical sport. This is football, and there's about physicality in a quarterback. Last, I check with a football player, understanding it make oughta money, and everybody shows up and it affects the ratings. But at some point you got to allow them to be football players as well. I don't think the referees also understand. I understand the spirit of the rule and what they're trying. To do because you can really hurt a guy by dumping them into the ground. But if BART's coming at full speed and I know he's going to get to me, he's quarterbacks are smart to which you don't want to get hit with both your feet on the ground. Yeah. So what they do is they get off of their feet to build to lessen the blow, and that's what did nece. And when you take your head to the side, the natural momentum is gonna hit him and because he's lifting up, he's going to go now. And he goes up like that. It's just when he hits the ground, your weight's going to be own. That's the tackling form it's hard to call. It's been a point of emphasis and Tony Caridi. They called this earlier in the game on kendricks, which was a questionable call. You're going to see this NFL games. Unfortunately, it happened at one of the most critical moment. It's very rare that we can say this call changed the outcome of the game, but when it's on what was. Interception and because of the time score situation, it would have been Neil Neil Neil game over. You can say, in this instance, if that flag is not thrown the Packers, win the football game. Now they had other opportunities when after that I understand that they could've stopped the Minnesota and they could have prevented the two point conversion could us Gordon overtime. They plenty of opportunities, but what's so frustrating to me about this play is what you allude to Carini said after the game, it was not the helmet rule. It was not even the new rule where you can't land on the guy. He said, this was the old rule where you've never been able to lift the guy up and drive him into the ground jump into out what he did though like that. What's frustrating is he, he hits him in the strike zone. He puts his helmet to the side. He doesn't land on him with his full force was wait. He does everything you ask them to do and you're still saying he, it was a penalty because he lifted up through them into the ground. It's not what I saw. And so I think this is one that a lot of the referees that are no longer referees, but are now analysts. Said that to call the shouldn't be made. And I know the Packers and other opportunities that games over the game is over right there and the Packers win game that they played with a compromised quarterback. If I'm a Packer fan, I'm sick over this. I know what happens. I know it's part of all, but Verstappen in those circumstances that questionable of a call that's a killer. That's an emotional thing. No, at the ref is going to call it at any stage of the game. He's got a call it at the end like it doesn't matter if it's the first quarter. The first play are the, the ref is not ref with the contingency. What time in the game is it is it before the two minute warning before halftime? Is it in the third quarter? Like they've been calling it, it's been inconsistent. So just like they called one earlier in the game, they called one later. That was a questionable call also, but in basketball, right? We let them play, right? We don't want the ref to to dictate the outcome of a game late in the game, especially when it's a questionable call, malicious hurt. If we start getting our quarterback's hurt last year, we. Lost Aaron Rodgers. We start losing our quarterbacks. It affects the product. Wouldn't you see? Let me ask you this. Don't you think that they do referee final play of the games? I know that wasn't that, but we see, we've shown the highlight two ton on hail Marys. It's a, it's a pretty given. It's understanding, right? Yeah. Given that you going to be able to be more physical, it's it's understood around the league. But as far as a personal foul on the quarterback, there is no exception to the quarterback. You can't breathe on them before the game. First quarter are at the end of the agree. But I think what BART's saying and what I'm saying is that if that would have been a bad call in the second quarter, it's not that it was a bad call only because it was at the end of the game, right? There was a bad one earlier in the game, this referee called one earlier if he calls another one. So you just upset because the time, if I'm a defender, I'm pissed off now instead of just, you know, I can't hit him low. I can't hit him high. I can't his his, his face masks, even when he sees. He's he's to bend down. So I'm just gonna start. Tackling his arm. So he can't protect us opening falls, not the histogram, but his face, and then we'll then we'll see what how you'll just to that because now you take money on my pocket, and now you taking my Billy to win championships. And now. Is very, very, very difficult. And now with them adding now that you can't dump them, put your weight on them. Like I believe that he got the rule wrong as far as which one I believe this year with the emphasis. That's the reason why he called it compared to make an excuse of going back to the old rule. Let's talk about the actual game. We kind of know have both teams feel about this ending tied the Packers went out there and put a hobbled Aaron Rodgers who came out to have that kind of effort and end with a tie and the Vikings left points on the board with their kicking. Zastava. How should both teams feel about ties? Well, I don't like it. I rather have a kickoff. I know the the kickers auto reason we haven't. We haven't got into got into it, but I'd rather have a kickoff right at some point, he'll you put in the hands of somebody. I don't know if I would ever want to push. It was good because the both of these guys are on the same. Both these teams on his saying division, so they had they get another opportunity to break the tie. But at dinner today, I don't know how you're going to do all the math with all the time breakers and all the things at the end of the season to to. It'll be Narmer who goes into the playoffs. You got it. I mean it'll be simple because if there is a tie between the two teams in the standings, whoever wins the second match will hold all tiebreakers because the title count as basically a half win for both of them. But as far as how teams are going to feel about it, the Vikings gotta feel like this is what we got Kirk cousins for. So we can play Green Bay in Green Bay with Rogers. I know that the Packers were not good in the red zone, but they still put up Twenty-nine points where Rogers goes out there dealing throwing for what nearly seven and a half or. Eight yards in almost three hundred yards and our quarterback can come back from double digits in the fourth quarter down and will not willing to victory but play at I level there in Rogers that's on. They couldn't have done last year, at least they couldn't have planned on doing last year. And some of those throws he made to dig stealing, and then the two point conversion to dig. Those were a level NFL throws. They were great plays by him the Vikings right now with their thinking about, yes, they like what cousins did they'd like they believe they're wide receiver tied in matchup is going to be good against anyone, but they're going to be a championship team. They gotta get a new kicker, you cannot. You cannot you got Mona bus bussey. No, no, no, we would have made some arrange a lot of Viking fans. So. So what if you're Minnesota because they traded up in the draft, right? Injure reserve, and I ain't about feeling sorry for people kickers. They got a job to do in this to put that ball up, right? No one's gonna hit you. No one's going to do anything to you. If you can't do your job, you jeopardize the whole roster, don't make sense to be playing seventy minutes of football. It comes down to one guy that's always gotta do is kick it. The jobs a beautiful day in Green Bay to conditions aren't do your job or go home. I'll put him injuries because I by and draft them, I would cut him. You think St. wealth, forgot all those muscles because he'll do nothing during practice. We out there running sweating concussion, banging our heads. All you gotta do kick the ball through the. You can't get that done. Walk home boss by Scott making enemies acres. Thanks for joining us part. He's going to be looking at the plate. He's going to be looking at the plate lays out there. 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"Welcome to Spain and fits the podcast. One of the most difficult things to try and figure out in the beginning of the NFL season is what story lines are real. And now after two games, one of the most difficult things to try and figure out, but we're gonna tackle this is which of the story lines that we've seen so far are actually going to stick throughout the course of the season. It Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio, the ESPN app and siriusxm channel eighty Jason Fitz hanging out with field Yates in for Sarah ESPN. Radio presented by progressive insurance guests on the shell Pennzoil performance line field. We are having a heck of a time. You know it. It's been fun. It has been fun. Like I said, you know what? The for having a good time, good energy like working with. And now this is that moment where you get to say a lot of big hot take things right, like this is sort of the the way we role must leaves up real quick here. I'm good gotta get ready for it, but the best part about it is you can say, whatever you want, radio, you can say, whatever you want, just disagree with it. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. So what. I want to do here is trying to have a little bit of a nuance conversation about some of the things that have taken the world by storm over the first two weeks of the NFL, but I'm figure out what is real moving forward. For example, of all the storylines we've seen early in the season, I think one that is going to stick in my mind is the Chicago Bears defense, not just because of Khalil Mack. I realized that that's a huge part of it. But when you think about the way they've looked in two weeks, they look like they're able to cover anybody there. Look like they're able to get past their pressure on anybody and they can send the blitz from anywhere they want to send it. It's really inspiring to see what that defense looks like. Incredible team speed. I look at the bears and I think man, that defense is going to be good. All stink in year. That's gonna stick. Hold on. I'm confused right now. Yes, yes. Khalil Mack did not do this to you? Khalil Mack was not the one that forced his hand out of Oakland, at least in my opinion. Right. I think ultimately, if he if the raiders wanted to get a deal done. With Khalil. Mack is still of the belief that they could have found a way to get some cap, maneuvering, etc, etc. Maybe some swelling of some pride as well though they could have gotten it done. I think they could have. They just chose not to, but you're talking about Khalil MacIntosh, a positive vein, not because you don't love Khalil Mack, but the guy would have thought just by recency, like, you know, the emotions, what it's been like, you know something. I'm gonna. Pretend like Khalil Mack is not completely destroying dings for the Chicago Bears right now. I think I thought you'd be like apps. Good ignored at the high road here. Harrowed it's been the for me the most I opening thing has been. I knew how good Khalil look for anybody that's like, oh, why are we now talking about Khalil Mack? Everybody knew he was great right. There was never a question of that, but when you've seen him in this bears defense and it's such so early in his transition into that defense. But when you see how explosive the defense looks as a whole with them, there's a moment where I look at it and say, man, when you put him with really amazing players, he's even better than we thought Khalil. Mack is even better than I thought he was a month ago in irony thought. He was one of the best players in the NFL. So I'm looking at this bears defense saying, nothing can stop this defense. They're going to be in every game all year long because their defense is that freaking good? Yeah, they are tremendous. I'll give you that much on. They are unbelievably good on defense, and I'm just I, what I'm trying to say here is that you are. You're slow back nanna Mus your man of the people here you give credit Khalil Mack, even though you could've said to yourself, you know something. I'm gonna. Pretend like Khalil night. You could have had a Khalil Mack blind spot. You know, like this. It is like, hey, I had a Ray Allen blind spot for. I'm a Celtics fan when Ray Allen hit that shot for the Miami Heat to help them win that NBA championship. No. Why don't wanna see that. I don't wanna see that at all. I just don't Ray Allen. Jesus Shuttleworth both of you do not exist in my mind. So anyway, spectacle people actually hear about right now in terms of the things that stick for me and credit weird stew. Our friend, Louis ridiculed ESPN has been saying for quite some time. Now the Kansas City Chiefs are all in and he is all in on Patrick Mahomes Patrick Mahomes. He who through three games has ten passing touchdowns the most by any player in his first three starts and NFL history. Here's the fancy part. Patrick Mahomes through as many touchdown passes in his very first start as you and I have combined for NFL career fits. He threw zero. So he's got those ten touchdown passes in just two games. He has been unbelievable and the chiefs to me. And I said this last night, if I'm playing Madden. And if somebody wants to challenge me, don't mess with the king. I'm just telling you that right now, but if you had the gumption to try and challenge me that I get the chiefs on offense. Good luck trying to stop me now. I think it's possible that the chiefs defense could be as easy to score on as their chief as the offense is capable of scoring. But Patrick Mahomes looks like the real deal and that's beat on that. Offense looks about as lethal and dynamic as there is in the NFL. That to me is what is here's day field Yates a couple of things. Number one, I will kick your butt. It Madden whenever you had enough to take me a whole lot fitter your Audio's cutting out. There didn't quite hear what you said something about you losing to me and Madame. Yeah, yeah, no problem. Anytime you can undefeated undefeated. All right. So I will. I will take my beloved raiders on any version like even when the raiders are bad, I could still beat you in matter. I drop a double fifty burger like one fifty burger per half. If you had the raiders defense you'd be watching them play. Yeah, it doesn't matter. I'm that good at math. Adin besides, I'm just going to run the ball down your throat. You're not going to be able to stop it the whole time. I will hold the ball the entire time. The other side of it is before every everybody just runs around, you know. Building Mahomes up like he's the blue ribbon award winning pig at the fair. Can we at least see him against a defense? I mean, I understand that the Steelers is a brand or supposed to be some great defense. But let's remember in a few weeks, the Jags get the chiefs and the patriots and back tobacco or sorry, the chief skis patriot right age rates in back to back weeks. Let's see that before we suddenly anoint Patrick Mahomes as the is the next great thing field come. All, okay. Well, here's what I would say is that. Patrick Mahomes will not be eating touchdowns per season. Goods is current pace. All right. But I will say this, like, don't you believe that the chiefs played this process perfectly? Let's give some organizational credit to the chiefs and their front office and they're coaching staff. So often we see teams make it investment in the first round in a quarterback and thrust that player in there too soon. Some guys are ready for it like I think Sam darnold will show that he has been and will be ready for this moment. Some guys are not ready for it and what ends up happening is that playing too soon, sets them backwards. It is something that can be borderline unrecoverable if I just I'm not sure if that's a word or not, but let's pretend like it's radio to word the chief slow played it, and it took some stones to trae Alex Smith, this off season, Alex Smith had the best year of his career last year and they should have won at least one playoff game last year to me what the chiefs were able. To accomplish and making this transition and doing so seamlessly deserves around of applause. It deserves. Derserves commendation like I'm really impressed by how they handle this Patrick situation. Ultimately, we talk about coaching as being about maximizing player skill sets and putting them and position to succeed Bravo to the chiefs for doing that with Patrick Mahomes. It's an exhibition that I know very few teams will follow because there's so much impatience in the NFL, but just see how much it can work field. I'm going to be honest with you. I think you're probably right, but a pager, you hear this and and I'm, I think you're probably right about the chiefs, but there's a limit to where my blinders will go. I can't give Khalil Mack all the love and the chiefs, all the love. I mean, I m slightly blinded by myself. I'm black vision. I will under- all about that, but I will still destroy you a Madden. So while the chiefs made the right move at the right time, the question becomes, will the bucks make the right decision between James Winston and Ryan? Fitzpatrick will answer that question next benefits field Yates sitting in for Sarah on the ESPN radio and the ESPN app, Spain, and. Fits Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio, the ESPN app and siriusxm channel eighty Jason Fitz hanging out with field Yates and the guys are making it difficult for me to focus on sports. When you play George, Michael, I just wanna sing along. It's the natural thing to oh, so the music right here, right. That was very good field after I just whoop your but all over the place in Madden. I'll make it up to you with fresh and beautiful bouquet from one eight hundred flowers dot com. Right now one, eight hundred flowers offering thirty-six autumn roses for thirty six bucks. So if you're like me and you spend too much time watching football the best way to make up for thirty six autumn roses for thirty six bucks to order go to one eight hundred flowers dot com. Slash e. s. p. n. and I'll send you flowers afterwards and then we'll be we'll be fine even though I want you. But so the the question is if I was playing you in Madden and I was playing with the buccaneers at this point, if I wanted to play accurately what I play with Ryan Fitzpatrick or would Jameis Winston because really. We're looking at a very interesting situation where the team today is got to figure out what's right for them this week right now. And obviously James can come back after the Monday night matchup before the buccaneers. But most of us expected them to struggle. Early instead fits magic is played lights out. And now you have this interesting predicament where the coaching staff and the team has to figure out what it looks like weaken a week out, but the rest of the team, the front office and the rest of the people around the buccaneers organization have to figure out what they have with the quarterback. Moving forward. That makes us a very compelling decision. In my mind. It does, and I think that people want to make this easy one way or the other fits. That's what they want. And I'm gonna make sure that I call you Jason for the rest of the segment. So I don't confuse you with Ryan. Fitzpatrick people want this decision to be easy. Right? They wanted to be okay. Hey, Jamie, Winston returns from suspension. He's the former number one overall, pick the guy that's scheduled to make more than twenty million dollars next year. The franchise future. James. Winston has to be the starter other people wanted to be, hey, Fitz is red hot right now. Four hundred plus passing yards, four touchdowns and each of the first two games he's gotta keep going right. I just don't think it's as simple as one or the other. To me, you have to introduce the possibility of Janus Winston getting his job back. And here's the reason why you've got a lot invested in him and I think it comes down to this. I don't want to make this too much about the Buffalo Bills last year, but the bills felt like they had a ceiling with tyrod Taylor and they felt as though. The ceiling was higher with a quarterback to replace tyrod Taylor. And I think part of what this conversation might be isn't I get at the ceiling with Ryan Fitzpatrick now right now is presumably really high, but over the course of a sixteen game season, a seventeen weeks gate season which one of those two players between Ryan Fitzpatrick and Jameis Winston presented the better opportunity to be competitive week in week out. There's evidence to suggest that it is Ryan Fitzpatrick based off the ways split over the past two weeks and also some of the the turnovers and the careless decision that James wizard as made on the field. At the same time, I don't think is as simple as hey, he shows up. He's back James Winston starts or, hey, Ryan Fitzpatrick has been great for the first two games. Jameis Winston is not going to start until Ryan. Fitzpatrick starts to stink. I think you're right that it's very layered, difficult decision now, Super Bowl champion, former head coach, Brian Billick, joins us earlier and said, the decision to him seems pretty cool. Clear, you gotta go with the hot hand. I mean, it's magic has been spectacular against some pretty good teams. It's not like he came out and they were paying some some bad defenses and not playing well, I know what James Winston is. The organization. Boy Fitzpatrick's rolling the offense. Just the way Dirk cutter wants to be run. You know if you made the move right now, let's say come in and and as he's prone to do, sometimes it gives you one of those two, three interception games. Then you go back to Fitz Patrick and then come back. I'd go with Fitzpatrick to failure until there's a struggle and and we know that that can happen to you're gonna get those four touchdown games and you may get those four interception game. We just have come close to the ladder yet field. What what really stands out to me? And you were saying this earlier, it's a little bit of conversation of where we are and where what it looks like moving forward. I've said many times. I think part of the reason the Vikings moved on from case keenum wasn't because they really thought they needed more production from the quarterback position is because. They looked at case keenum and didn't think they could get that level of production consistently from him. So instead they go with Kirk cousins that was sort of their organizational decision. There has to be some sort of an organizational realization that whatever they're getting from Ryan Fitzpatrick they're gonna have to step back and ask themselves the very difficult question of can he stay this hot? Can he play at that level? And if not, then what that's sort of the weird position they're in that it's not just about how good he's looked. It's about whether or not they think that can sustain it. Almost interesting to we'll get into this more later on in the show with Rick Stroud is a great job covering the team for the Tampa Bay times, but I'll ask you, this fits is, if you're GM, Jason, light of the buccaneers is in a very nice job in assembling some serious offense of horsepower for this team. Do you feel a pressure to figure out what James Winston is? Because this off season when James swinson is prepared to enter the final year of his deal is affecting the window that you negotiate a contract with them. Right? Because it's really rare. For a quarterback to play out the entirety of his contract. Obviously, Kirk cousins that notable exception. But as we see with Aaron Rodgers and Matt Ryan and Derek, Carr, and other guys, Matt Stafford who have recently been a top paid, quarterback decision often comes a year more out. I wonder if part of him wants to see again, not if the cost of his team winning. But I wonder if part of me is like, listen, I wanna see James out there and be successful so that I can decide whether I need to make a multi year investment in him a, yeah, I don't think it's just a want think it's a need. You've got to see something because right now, if you if we're realistically having a conversation about whether or not James should take this job back from Ryan Fitzpatrick, then we also have to fully acknowledge that the next level of that conversation is that he's not worth twenty one million dollars. And right now just popped trek says, what next year it's just under twenty one million dollars would be his salary next year. So you know if he's not worth being the starter right now, he's not worth twenty one million next year to your point field, but then what do you do with them long term. That's the the curious part that that the the bucks are in here because they're on a roll and you, you want to knowledge that and you wanna keep winning games. You don't wanna do anything that messes with that, but also, what do you do long-term Ryan Fitzpatrick's not your answer long-term or they would. They realistically have to look at possibly cutting ties with James Winston here that's drastic. Here's the good thing though. Is that imagined the other side of this equation if Ryan Fitzpatrick had played so poorly in the first two weeks, and then into the third week, that one Jameis Winston returns. If he struggles, it's like, oh, man, like not only does our starting quarterback for the future. Jameis Winston have issues but are filling quarterback was no good, and we're Owen three and facing some heat about our long-term status. The fact that Ryan Fitzpatrick has led them to a two zero record has been one of the biggest surprises of the NFL season. I will be the first to admit it. So I think if anything, the buck should be smiling ear to ear, like my point is. Is this they are in a pretty good spot all things considered. Well, you're right, especially given. I'll throw myself on the sword here. The conversation on this show. When Jay miss suspension came down was you can't recover from it. Owen three start because the first three games are difficult. So you know the the mindset that they're, they have the opportunity to be three, you know, I mean, that's a fantastic spot for the organization to be. And I would argue though that the entire NFL is rooting for Jameis. Winston other teams, I should say rooting for James Winston to get into this game. Because right now, if you take the worst case scenario for James personally, would be the bucks decide that Ryan Fitzpatrick Fitzpatrick holds a hot hand. They don't put Jameson, and then all of a sudden Fitzpatrick goes on and wins the Super Bowl, right? So you're Jamison, you're sitting here and all of a sudden you're not really valued by the buccaneers anymore. I mean, I don't think other teams even know what the value of James Winston would be on the open market. How crazy is that? The word the point now where we can even introduce the. Ability of Ryan Fitzpatrick taken a team to the Super Bowl that's been over the first two weeks. I think it's probably a long shot as Mikey throws water on my take here. I will say this is that the bucks deserve kudos and credit for defying. A lot of the naysayers because I was one of them. I thought there was best case scenario of them being one and two going into the week four decision time when they had to make a choice between James Winston and Ryan Fitzpatrick. So I took my captain Dr cutter and his coaching staff. I tip my cap, Jason light and the roster he has built with us personnel staff and the players because I tell you what talking about things that are bound to sustained. Good luck stopping that wide receiver group, Mike Evans to Sean Jackson, Chris Godwin, OJ Howard former. I ride of their first round pick in two thousand seventeen. Those guys are the real deal and they're getting it done without a real threat of the running game so far. Go Howard. A great example of somebody that we all. I mean, draft experts continually reminded us. This was going to happen, but you look at it and say, where. All that Obama like that who knew who do college football fans were over that one. But to that point field, it also is a great reminder that there will be the opportunity to get a real body of evidence on James win. He does come back if he does come back into this because the weapons are there. So the the buccaneers had put themselves in the situation. They need to be where they can actually evaluate the player because the pieces are there around him. The question is when they do that evaluation, what are they gonna see, and how soon can they get to that evaluation process? It's going to be one of the most interesting things to watch. Straight ahead. Vantera Davis walked away from the bills on Sunday has gotten ripped for doing so well between field. And I one of us has actually walked out on a couple of get adopts wanna guess which one? Yeah. Find out next on Spain on ESPN radio computer, execute twelve point, four p. operation. Optimizing algorithm running encryption, packet alpha, Knight, Knight. Oh, I don't feel so good. What? What is it computer. Is it hot in here? It feels hot in here. I feel a little clammy. I should lie down or something a computer with a virus. Surprising. What's not surprising how much you could save by switching to Geico those oysters. Rockefeller were a mistake. Geico. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percents or more Spain and Fitz Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio, the ESPN app and siriusxm channel eighty. I'm Jason Fitz and I would never quit in the middle of the show on field Yates sitting in for Sarah. Feel amount. You just take the rest of the show night. You're gonna take the rest. Well, you know what? I'm just not not. You know, I was thinking about it in the break, and I feel like maybe my heart and mind and bodies not into it anymore. So I'm out. That's it's fair, right? Bonday Davis me. My vocal chords just can't cut it anymore. They're tired of the the workout. So yeah, I went full vantera Davis, ESPN radio presented by progressive insurance. We're gonna take your calls on this on the shell Pennzoil performance line and just a few minutes, triple eight. Say ESPN eight eight eight seven, two, nine, three, seven, seven, six. And so look, if you like, we're gonna call this a thing. Now von paid. Have you ever vaunted and and it got me thinking, there's like this this window where you gotta you gotta respect, sort of how difficult this was for the the players in the organization that didn't expect to see it coming. Once we get through that window though, now I can sort of pull back and laugh at it. I've decided it's that time and maybe feel a figure being the rebel that you are. I figured maybe you have like a creative quitting story you've ever vaunted feel just meant like on out. I'm hundred percent, pure rebel over here. You know me, you know, me know I hit anything like part of me is like, oh, that's so Wayne, you can't think of a time in which you quit something a job in the middle of it, but then. I'm like, I don't know if you have a good Vaughn tame experience like that's notable because this never happens that why that's why this story was even of note in the first place. Right? I mean, that's why we were talking about this is that never happens, but you sound the command fits, who may have an example vaunting in your life and and still to limit my Zandt. Sorry, I've vaunted a few times. Okay. And so some shouldn't surprise anybody. The first time I've wanted, I was working multiple jobs. It retail stores in in a mall in Nashville. Just moved here. It was the mid nineties and work my tail off all day every day to try and get enough cash while I'm trying to make it as a musician. Right. So I'm working in a in a retail store in a mall and and it happened to be a Sunday, this prize, nobody. And I got scheduled on Sunday and I had been very adamant that I wanted Sunday off. Okay. For for obvious reasons to watch my beloved raiders play. So they scheduled me on Sunday. Which was already wholly unacceptable. And then I went in and I, I, you know, went to the manager and I was like, hey, you know, the raiders play the Broncos today and I, it's big game. So maybe I work a little my shift now and I come later in somebody else's covers for me, it's going to be dead. The manager said, no, shockingly field. So I did what any irresponsible person in my youth might do. I took my lunch break in air quotes, went to my apartment which was only minutes from my job, and I just never went back. Just never returned. Nine, never returned. I went I, it was. I went the game started, and I didn't have the willpower to walk away from it. So I wanted, I can't even bigger another vaunting example that's even of like close to what happened with vaunted Davis on Sunday sports. Like is there an example of a guy or a player, like walking out mid season expectedly? Sure. There are definitely examples of that, but this was just so unfathomable to me. I mid game is I think the piece of it that just. Punches everybody in the cut, right. We've just never. Even if it had been ten minutes before the game, it would be viewed differently. But for halftime, we have examples of players walking off the court in late fourth quarter situations, or like a guy walking off at the end of a game when his team is clearly not going to win that game. But that's different. Right? Like to me, obviously, first of all those players returned to the team the next day, second of all, or the next game, whenever that game might have been. But second of all like that was more of a mounting frustration because the fact that your team is losing a game that you prepared for like Vaughn Davis. And again, I think I've already said my piece on this, which is this. Monty Davis has been doing this for a long time came in the league in two thousand nine. All right. Like even pouring your blood sweat and tears into your professional football career for probably something close to fifteen years thirty, more snaps, thirty more snap is all you had to do because if he woke up this morning or Monday morning and put out the same exact statement, it's a story, but it's not a story in the way that is the story now. And I apologize for not knowing offhand who it was here. He SPN that said this, but the legacy for volunteer Davis is gone. His legacy now is being a guy. They quit on his team in the middle of the game. He could have been remembered as a nearly ten year. NFL veteran had some Pro Bowl moments. Pretty good player, contributed some sex, successful colts teams. And now we're gonna remember vaunted Davis as the guy who walk. Away from his teammates when the needed him. Well, and and you know the the hardest part about that is also at the same time. You can't have that conversation without also having a conversation about how bad the bills have looked for the first two weeks of the season. So it all sort of compounds on top of each other because now there's this quite this question that's naturally going to linger in people's minds of was the losing just too bad is, is the organization just in too much chaos and all of these conversations continue to fly forward because from the eye test alone right now after two weeks, clearly in my mind, the bills of the worst team in the NFL. And again, that's not shocking to me, but that's got to be a difficult moment for a player that has played his whole life to stomach still. There's an expectation in that moment in that moment, there's the expectation that you finish out the the game. I mean, you can't just leave in the. You don't get to pick up your ball and go home in the middle of the game. Thirty more plays bits like. Thirty more place even if he had gone up to Sean McDermott or Leslie Frazier, the bills defensive coordinator and said, hey, I'm going to stick it out like stay here with you guys, but I got nothing left like I need you to find somebody else to play for me get what are the guys out there. We're losing this game by a bunch of points anyways, just let somebody who needs the developmental snaps get out there. He couldn't give them thirty more plays. And again, I feel for vaunted Davis in this regard, is that like his his legacy will be different at the same time. He brought this upon himself so easily avoidable. I think that's the part that having a hardest time reconciling this afternoon, this evening, you know, forty eight hours after took place. That's going to be the piece of it that I think that history won't be friendly to. I mean, history is not going to tobacco Avantis at any point for doing this. I think it's only going to continue to grow vaunting as a as a phrase, and this is one of those things that feels like we won't see again, but, but it will be ingrained in everybody's mind. I want to get your thoughts on it, triple eight. Say ESPN eight eight eight, seven, two, nine, three, seven, seven, six. We're going to go get your phone calls stack the lines. Also wanna know if you have ever vaunted. Have you ever just walked out and I will. I will on the other side of this field, they'll give a story of a time. I almost Bontade in front of seventy thousand people. We'll tell you about it and we'll take your thoughts on it. Triple eight. Say ESPN eight, eight, seven to nine three, seven, seven, six. Your thoughts on vantera next pain and Fitz on ESPN radio field Yates sitting in for Sarah Spain, and fits the phone lines are calls on the shell Pennzoil performance line on Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio, the ESPN app and siriusxm channel eighty. Everybody's fired up. Hope we get some good stories here. It's Jason Fitz of field Yates field Yates in for Sarah, and we're getting a lot of feedback not just on on people's personal vantera stories. That's a and look. This is your confessional time. Nobody's heard to judge triple eight. Say ESPN eight eight eight, seven, two nine, three, seven, seven, six. Have you ever vaunted just quit in the middle of a shift? Tell me about it. I want to know, but also a lot of you guys have thoughts on it in general and field. This is when we've gotten some tweets on and we've got a call on this to start with Dan in Vegas. Damn. What do you got. Before it was called vaunting. I think it was called pulling a crook. If you recall nineteen ninety five first any John crock is playing in Baltimore. He gets the Basit call time out, walks off the field and drives back to his house in West Virginia and said, he was home before the game was over. And when he did that, he was lauded as a hero and everyone thought it was such a warm and fuzzy romantic baseball story. So it's kinda interesting vont they Davis is getting vilified for doing the same thing, and thanks for the call and field. I'll admit that maybe I'm a victim of recency by to talk about it all the time in the social media age, and I'm also not as a guy without a lot of baseball. In my background, I didn't know the story. So I've I've been reading on it. It is interesting. Does it feel the same to you? Yeah, really interesting because I know John, obviously I knew that he was a player, but most of my exposure to Kroc was when he spent a longtime, he already SPN calling baseball games and bright. A his persona was that of the lovable relatable baseball player, right? Did not look like an athlete in terms of stature, he had the long mullet thing going on. So relatable in that regard was not aware that this is how is baseball career ended. And it's interesting note that you made or observation you made about how things have changed in the social media era, right? Because back pre Twitter, which I considered the voice of fans during sporting events, whether people had opinions or not. We didn't know right because you didn't hear them. There was no platform for me to say, oh my God, I can't believe they threw a flag on clay Matthews for that perfectly legal hit. You might have expressed it to the people you're watching the game from the couch with, but you never had the chance to say it out loud to potentially thousands or hundreds of thousands of people. So I was not aware of this drawn Kruk story. And you know right now. If I'm going to give vantera Davis grief, or if I'm going to express disappointment and him walking out, I should express the similar disappointment in John crock. I agree. My horizons have have grown. Let's go to Vince in New Mexico. Vince, what do you get. Big on face. So I was about five days before high school. Basketball game is still high school basketball coach in New Mexico. This is twenty five years ago. And right before the game, the superintendent comes up to me and essentially kills me what my game plan is going to be that I've been coaching them all wrong, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. So, and he ended me a clipboard that all of his notes that you know, he needed me to follow game per game plan, things like that. And I was kind of flabbergasted by it. We, we were very successful the year before my first year. Anyway. I flip the foot board over wrote my resignation letter right on the back of it and handed it back to and then walked away. That's a ball. Thanks for the call. I like I like that move like you've just, you're like, no, I'm not. I'm not executing your game plan. That's not the way it's gonna. Work question is this is now that he's had some time to reflect on it and has lived this like my my sense is based off of his chuckle that like he has no regrets and it just like whatever happened in like, this is not the story that defines my life or anything. Right? But I wonder if day from now week from now a month from now year from now, longer than that, if Davis will reflect on this story and ever opened up about it and feel differently. Well, let's go to Bill in Saint Louis on vantera Bill. What do you got man. Thanks for calling the show. You know, I've, I've got a little different take. I think this was an incredibly selfish move that bonday didn't think about in a larger term, but how does sex the people around him? I don't know if the guy has kids, but his kids are going to be torched if be has some kids can be ruthless. They're going to be teased endlessly and. And on another front is a guy who owns an ad agency. I can tell you there's no way I would ever use him for an endorsement or bring to any client functions who associate him with a brilliant. That's a really interesting set of of trickle down impacts, right? I do not know. Vaunted Davis is a father or not, or whether he intends to be a father at some point down the line and in the marketing side of it. Let's be honest. When these players retired from the NFL their brands did not immediately dissolve. Some of them have lucrative post playing careers, whether it's in the media, whether it's just basically using their likeness as a salary year to year. But perhaps brands will say, how are we going to fix ourselves to somebody who's lasting legacy in the eyes of many is a quitter cuts such a, that's a layer part of it. I hadn't even considered it Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio take some fits and field Yates field in for Sarah. We're taking your calls triple eight. Say ESPN eight eight eight seven two nine three seven seven six on vantera Davis's unac-. Effected halftime retirement in. And have you ever vaunted? It's really confessional time. Also, I wanna, say, dug in the house on Twitter came in and said, I worked at a no. Pizzeria they put me in the back working on dome, wouldn't let me punch in seven minutes in I asked where the bathroom was so sweet freedom of the outside world on the way walked out through my the trash, seven minutes, seven minutes. That's impressive. That is like that is impressive efficiency right there. Well, Mike in New York, Mike, you gotta vaunted story force. Yeah, I do. And actually the bills are my team, so watching it on Sunday. That was one thing, but then seeing halfway through that vantera wasn't on there. And then here in the news, it was just a whole 'nother thing. So that was kind of a fun episode right there in of itself. But I I've wanted once I was working retail in a well-known franchise jewelry store locally on just holidays, didn't really need the job, but was just doing it because it was fun and I was good at it. The boss there was kind of a stickler it was kind of a jerk to me really didn't get along with me, but kept me on because I had kept making sales. Anyways. It was like I said, right around the holidays. This guy came in and was looking to propose to his girlfriend, and I was actually in the process of selling and closing him on a really expensive ring. But that night it had been kind of me and my boss going back and forth. And I just kind of said to myself, you know what I'm done. I don't wanna be here. Don't even need this job. So right before. I was about to close the deal. I brought my boss over for like a turnover. They call it and right in there in front of the customer and my boss, I just said, you know what I'm done might have set a few other things, and I just walked. That's good. Mike. Thanks for the call. He feels could get off your chest. The second time we've seen like I don't say no remorse, but people that actually look back on their experiences, something that was like borderline cathartic, right. Like does if that move for Mike, just like set them off in a very positive way. Well, you know what? Maybe that's just was a little kick that he needed to for life. Now, leading Colorado has a little clarity for us on this, this crux insulation, what he got Lee. Yeah. Hey guys say, I'm fifty one. So I remember when pref retired leabeau's at the end of the season and it came out that the manager didn't know what he was doing. He wanted to get Basit and retire with a face it and as a kid, I thought that was cool saying I ever so they weren't independent race and probably one of the go out, you know, I believe I l Rivera, whatever's for New York. They told him off the mouth. He did said the game, but I mean, so I think in the done in the right situation, it's a cool thing. Thanks for the call and the clarity on that field. It's a little differently. He scored touchdown and you just run into the tunnel afterwards and stay. I'm out. I mean, I don't think that that would be necessarily received any better, but it would be funny in today's world. It's kind of interesting. So like the the crock thing was orchestrated and almost I don't know if it was time tirelessly preplanned. But yeah, I mean the orchestrated. It just feels a lot different having that context there than volunteer Davis, like if it of the bills like listen the next time again. Interception I'm done. I'm out maybe you feel differently about it right if he had been in some sort of communication with them, but this blindsided everybody, everybody involved, which I think is why such a unique dynamic. So Andrew, New York, real quick enter. What are you got force. I definitely have on tape before. Working for a guy summer break for college about six, eight weeks. I only ask for one weekend off to go put a rugby and canam sterling that he told me, no, I turn around that later had agreed weekend guys from England, rock rugby teams. Ireland rugby team was unbelievable drinking weekend. Let me tell you. This is the call. He got life experience out of it to all those calls on the shell Pennzoil performance line. Love you guys. You guys are the best with with the stories in the confessionals. I'm all about it. I think you should try it at some point field, not with the SPN, but you should try it at some point in life like just, you know, just sort of walk out on something. It's kind of a baller kind of a ball or feel you had me convinced. I'll give it a shot white. I get weird. I will say that many years ago I was about to play a show at Nissan stadium is Puerta Siham fest, which is the big country music festival, seventy thousand people. We went into soundcheck and the men. I had an argument with the artist. I was playing with time. This was long before I was with the band Perry. It was with the different artists and we had an argument on stage and I'll never forget that manager referred to me in with with things. I would never say to another human being in their face, and I walked off stage and I called my wife and I called a bunch of my friends. And I said, I'm not. Playing the show tonight. And I sat there a block from the stadium for hours trying to cool down trying to figure out how to address the situation, but ultimately decided I couldn't do. I see. I could not not play with the guys and stick them in a situation where they were gonna play in front of sixty or seventy thousand people without everybody there. So I went in and I played the show and then I quit the, you know. So not quite Fontaine. That's hosted Bontang I almost Montaigue do you know? It's like I just I almost that's the best I could do other than walking straight ahead. 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REShow: Melvin Ingram. Hour 3 (09-17-18)

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REShow: Melvin Ingram. Hour 3 (09-17-18)

"Rich Eisen on demand, your show your schedule, fifteen minutes after ball dot com. Check out the casts at richeisenshow dot com. Napa know keeping it simple as usually a good thing when it comes to rewards programs, keeping it simple is always a good thing. That's why we made the Napa rewards program. Effortless. All you need is your phone number to start saving on the parts and tools you need. Then we automatically give you five dollars off your next purchase for every hundred you spend. So start saving today with Nefer rewards quality parts, helpful people that's Napa. Know how I know. Hour number three of the rich Eisen show is on here. Melvin Ingram is gonna be calling in as the the chargers fresh off of a beatdown of the bills in western New York come home. They're one in one which is much better than last year start taking on a Rams team that looks like the best team in the National Football League certainly looks like the game in the NFC. If you wanna take a look at what the Jaguars did against the New England, Patriots. And later on this hour, I'll give you my two cents on that game and what it means for both teams moving on there is some injury news from that game at Chris Brockman about to get to. We haven't hit our poll question in a while. Eight, four, four, two, four, rich is the number to dial. We'll take your calls this hour as well. We've already hit on all host of topics from week to the NFL week, three of the college football season urban Meyer's, latest comments if you missed any of it gore, apple app store, Google play, get our app because not only can you listen to his live? You can get our podcast there. You can go down video. Wormhole you could check out all of our goodies like the mug. That's right here on my table, the punters of people to shirts going on. We got a lot to hang out by the way. There's a richeisenshow logo on the back of those parts of people to t shirts pretty good. So you could also vote on our poll question. Where does that stand right now? We'll get quarterback with the best performance of the weekend talking about Patrick Mahomes Ryan Fitzpatrick. Blake Bortles Dwayne Haskins from Ohio State right now. Pat Mahal kinda running away with it sixty three per cent more than Ryan Fitzpatrick. Yeah, Super Bowl champion eagles. Phys Bajic only twenty four percent at Blake. Bortles carved up the path yesterday. They don't believe in fits magic, which I think is real. Did I not call this is lock of the week you did you have a feeling that this is common? And now Carson Wentz is starting which the coach says, you don't draw a line between the two with what happened at Tampa with the fact that he's now going to be starting next week and cleared against Indianapolis that that that that is soon as he was cleared medically. He was in coincidence. I don't know. We might sit here and say that there's one has to do with the other, but offensively the team wasn't terribly share with their more shaky defensively yesterday, which was the prising because they looked so good week one against a pretty high powered. We saw this past weekend, falcons offense, but fits magic is just tough to beat right now and another month. Browns defense is not a joke. The Browns defense is really good, and the Browns defense just kept drew Brees off the board in a manner that we rarely see. Okay. At least when fits magic was torching. The saints defense Brees was putting points up yesterday, not so much and man the Browns. I mean for them to. Go up twelve three because they could make a kick throughout the game, then lose the lead, gain it back with a minute and sixteen to go. Except for the fact that they didn't kick an extra point gain it back. They tied the game gave up the lead, had a chance to tighten going overtime again and missed that kick. That's all sitting right there. And Chris Brockman news update brought to you by our friends at truecar. And now for the live report route men with the new with truecar you find out what other people paid for the car that you want and the car that you want has a VIN number and it not only you find out what people paid for the car you want, it's from your area. So it's all local in social truecar certified dealer that you should check out right now by visiting truecar to enjoy a more confident car buying experience when you're buying either new or used, Chris, what do you start with the Philadelphia Eagles news. Doug Peterson said today during his press conference, Carson Wentz medically cleared, saying, quote, he's going to be prepared mentally. Now it's a matter of the physical part. Taking over in my mind. He's cleared no need to hold back. Good news for eagles fans. Carson Wentz. Then tweeted out video of him going nuts on the sidelines that I'm back feeling fly eagles fly. So he's back in the saddle ready to go for the eagles. Exciting men. Number one, overall, pick in the. Draft, Andrew, lock versus number two overall, pick and a draft and Carson Wentz luck looking terrific in his return. Colts could easily be to an after. They just went on the road in the NFC east and they're gonna have to do it again to come up with another win. They just really put it on the the Redskins weekend is one of the biggest surprises from week one week, two in a week to week league where anything can change was the way Washington looked in Arizona compared to a Washington looked at home against Indianapolis, which again may have something to do with the way the cardinals. The cardinals, you know, and then to see Wentz back, it's going to be very exciting to see what happens. He's going to be at home. It's a nice, a nice home date for him before they're at Tennessee. They get the next two in the AFC south before Minnesota place. How about that? By the way week, four week five. Minnesota goes back to back on the road short week from Minnesota. It's here in Los Angeles against the Rams, right? As FOX kicks off their exclusive coverage of Thursday night football. Now, it's by the way that that phrase that they had for their for their their promo. Now it's a game. Now, it's again either way that you wherever you put the stress, it's still it's still to somebody in my position, having covered Thursday night football part of its creation at the NFL network for the last twelve years. You know, it's sultanate little bit. Yeah. Now, now now it's a game. Now it's a gate now. It's a game manning the game, the previous patter before now to game. Now it's a game now it's. All game. What I'm saying. And no matter where you put the accent, it's honest with is a clear shot at you. I think per sunshine shoes, no more clear shoddy. You might have been a long time, but. Bring that out with Joseph when I see him next Brown's news. So this kind of shocked everyone on Saturday, Josh Gordon came down with a mysterious hamstring injury on Saturday, which we later learned was occur during a promotional shoot may or may not have been for the team. Then reports came out. He was going to be released Monday, then an additional report that they're looking for a trade partner before four PM eastern today. Either way, Josh Gordon, no longer going to be on the Browns. Finally ending that saga an online bookmakers taken odds on his future destination God, the eagles are even money right now. Josh Gordon zero sense to me. Sense. Gonna come back sooner out Niners chiefs Cowboys among the favorite? Yeah. He said he wanted to be either a cowboy or forty Niners what he said. I also would like to be in Jeff Bezos his money fund, whatever that is I'd like to be in that just to let you know to be in that mode. I'd also like to go to the moon. So while I'm just saying, I'm just I want it may not happen. Look. If I'm a Cowboys I'm I'm calling the Browns up and saying, let's let's strike deal here. Because they're used to having guys on third, fourth, fifth, chances they probably have, they probably have a plan for Josh Gordon already just take it out of a drawer, and they've had a plan for guys who have had issues off the field, whether it their behavioral issues or in the case of Josh Gordon. Issues involving substance abuse, and that was crazy over the weekend. It was like, okay, crazy. After's. Like they're releasing him. Then there's a report coming out of Cleveland with Mary Kay Cabot that he showed up and he wasn't himself right? Which means, okay. Maybe late, maybe relapsed, and then he was late and then it was a hamstring injury. Then it was a hamstring injury that he suffered on promotional shoot, that I have asked many people, you know, close to the situation or close to people who are can be close to the situation. Nobody knows what the promotional shoot is as if it mattered. Was it a Brown shoot was another shoot on, oh his yard, hamstring on a promotional, shoot, how there's a lot of odd behavior that added up to the Brown saying their trust is now destroyed. If I'm Dallas Cowboys just having a threat like him outside of the numbers helps with that. Read stuff that I was talking about the top of the show that Dak and Zeke are terrific at and is the way that the Cowboys can't differentiate themselves from other offenses. Other offenses, like we saw with the Kansas City Chiefs. She got weapons all over the place, and you also got what the Los Angeles Rams. You've got weapons all over the place and schemes that are radically different. That's their fingerprint. You have other fingerprints of teams that can hit you in the mouth like the Jacksonville Jaguars certainly when they've got Leonard for net their their fingerprint is the Dax Zeke rezone stuff that can open things up that Josh Gordon can open up for them and they've got a plan there and he's been in the state of Texas. We all know that's where. Maybe some of the demons are. We'll see. You know, I mean, if I'm Cowboys, that's the guy I try and go get, but we're all sitting here talking about things in terms of football that might be so far afield of what actually is the reality with him. Yeah, definitely. Unclear at the moment that's all playing out today though. Right? That should be playing out by time. Four PM eastern right. Mentioned earlier rough day for Browns kicker. Zing Zala. He's out of a job. The Browns worked out some kickers today. Signing someone. I'd never heard of Greg Joseph after today's workout. He's an undrafted. Free agent kicked the last four years for FAU where he hit sixty nine percent of his kicks. So good luck to him moving forward. Did you hear a DP show today that the I think it was. Was it Paula mclovin think that there should be some incentive based kicker contracts that you're only paid if you make kicks. And to that, I will say this, how dare you, how dare you single out kickers? Do we tell quarterbacks that they are paid only by completions touchdowns? Do we tell running backs that they are paid only by yards amassed and not fumbling getting some sort of incentive for your docked money when you put the ball on the ground or you're giving money when you're not fumbling? No, we do not do that. Ricky Williams tried that and we do not do no. We do not do that. We do not tell defensive ends that they are paid by the sack or docked money if they are called for roughing the passer. So why do we treat kickers differently? Because they have only so-called one job. It is not easy what they do. The crucible of a game on the line. People going crazy. Coaches that are beyond your peripheral vision calling time out on you. What if you're about to start your news update and at any point in time l. zero who's all the way over in the end of the set on time out on, you know, no. In like your first item that you delivered perfectly wave that off try again while I distract you. Kickers should not be singled out for that sort of incentive Laden contract will language how dare you kickers are people too. According to Adam Schefter applause line. Oh, sorry. Thank you. Thank you, everybody. I wanna thank everyone here on the rich Eisen show for making that possible. According to Schefter Gonzales was doing with a groin issue that requires an on. So it'd be really was hurt. He was hurt too. Yeah, like Greg's align. He got hurt before the game, his got hurt and warm up. So the Rams were going for it on two points every single time on the poor cardinals. Yeah, like they were immature old on a bag. Skittles playing Madden. Going going on on an on for two points lane it on one point there punish Johnny Ecker came out and kick thirty. Was the first time you kicked a field goals? High school, seven. So punters kickers to do. We give Johnny Hecker bonus and his contract because he did that. No, because he's a football player. Speaking of the cardinals, it's not going well. They scored six points in two games. They've been thoroughly outplayed only cross midfield I think late in the game yesterday. It was great. I watched the game. I watch the game all the way to the end because it had had serious fantasy implications for one of my leagues. Okay. Same, I'm watching it and they said that there was not. It wasn't gone over the fifty yard line all hadn't gotten past the fifty game. They finally did at the end, dick Stockton was calling it. He called it like Carlton Fisk and just wrapped it around the pole. He's like, get across the fifty yard line like, but he was serious. He wasn't being Roenick at all, and it was really bad. A lot of people calling for Josh Rosen, Steve Wilkes said today, I'm not going to sit here and say right after the game when we're going to do from a personnel standpoint, but I will say this everybody will be valuate when you've got David Johnson and Larry FitzGerald, and you can't get. You can't get past fifty. It was. The game is good, but you gotta be you were there? I went, it was. It was they were bad, the Carlsbad in by the way, we'll talk about this with Melvin Ingram shortly. Los Angeles football is up for grabs. UCLA hasn't won a game yet. Chip Kelly hasn't won a game yet. He's getting his making. His players do calisthenics during timeouts in a home loss to Fresno. Okay. USC USC got waxed by Texas, which got waxed by Maryland, which just got beaten. This past weekend. Let me get this accurate. By the way, I cannot believe that by temple. I can't believe that Rutgers lost to Kansas gave up fifty five to Kansas art. So Ellie football is up for grabs. Hear charges, play Rams this weekend in the Coliseum people showing up. It was not a lot of people. I know it's red hot there. It's an old building, but this is the best team football playing here in Los Angeles. It's here. It's happening. You wanna winner Los Angeles. It's here. It's here. Let's you wanna see calisthenics done during a time out. I don't know. People in LA can be a little bit, you know, unique few injury items. Doug Peterson also said the head alshon Jeffery still week to week. Although he might resume practicing, however, they do have a whole, Mike Wallace fractured his fibula. He's going to be out for a few weeks, bad news for the Jags left tackle Cam Robinson, torn ACL, patriots. He's out for the season, bad news for the giants offense. Flying got even worse there center John. Hello, peo- fractured his leg and ankle. He's out for the season. That was an ugly injury. Last night. They lost their center for the season. They've got a raw rookie in their left guard, and solar is going to hopefully hold down that and for for ally manning yet. What we've been talking about all show that Alani needs to be protected and their plans for offensive line of gone awry to this point where they've lost their center for the season after week, two. Ouch. Ouch. Before before we get to, we gotta get to Melvin Ingram. So I know you watch the fight, Dan. I want to get to that. We can get that after, okay, we'll get to that and the bizarre vaunted Davis situation. We can. Millman Ingram too because it was in that game. We're vaunted Davis just flat out quit at halftime at halftime because they just wrapped it up. Philip rivers in the chargers were just torture them. And he said, I'm done playing football and left and Melvin Ingram is gonna join us. Next, I'm wondering if he if they those guys heard that during the game because Lorenzo Alexander of the bills could not believe it. So we'll get to all of that. When we come back here on this edition of the rich Eisen show your phone calls. Chris Brockman take on triple g getting hosed against Cannella Alvarez, which a lot of people believe and and then my two cents on the patriots in the Jaguars and then more. That's our number three. When we come back here in the rich Eisen show, let's talk truecar because if you're looking to buy a car, you're probably familiar with terms like MS RPM. You might even know what it stands for, but what is it really actually mean the same goes for invoice list, price dealer price. It's really enough to confuse anybody. All you're really looking for is a price that actually means something right. So introducing true price from truecar now you. 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Keelan coal is filling in for a way that from Archies le- the they haven't had four net there now foreign. Oh, without four net from last year. And this year with Bortles lighting up and every single one of those games and New England looked like they had no answer. Here's the answer. You ready for the answer. Because we'll be talking about it when these teams play one another again, potentially for all the marbles in the AFC. It was ugly today. So I'm ready for an answer Julian Edelman. That's the answer. They're not full strength that was back in three weeks. They're not full strength Sony, Michelle as barely cracked the lineup. He's been hurt. First time yesterday, so the patriots offense that the Jaguars may see a second time I think will be different and we'll be talking about that and it some point. Somebody's gotta look, TB twelve in the face in January and take him out. That's always been the AFC major major accomplishment. Sometimes we've known more often than not with Tom Brady doesn't work who's going to do it. Can it be Jacksonville, Jacksonville, continued doing this to the point that they will have a better record than New England when it is all said and done. So the second game that they play is in the same place where this one took place when I'm assuming also won't be a hundred degrees and to none of this should be taken as a slight to Jacksonville. They are a better team topped about them. As I said before the season, if you took Jacksonville's roster and put the word patriots on top of it, they would have been a unanimous potentially unanimous choice to make Super Bowl, fifty three from the American Football Conference. And if Bortles plays the way that he does and can and you heard Dilfer saying our to that, it's all about confidence for him, and he even said that and they are getting more and more confident with him under center and getting more and more confident being there. They will be a very difficult team to beat and potentially one of those AFC teams like the ravens before them. One of those AFC teams like the Broncos before them. Colts who have looked TB, twelve and a face in January and say, you lose today. They could be that team, but the patriots will be a different offensive team and most likely than usual, a better defensive team. They're already out of the gate, a better defensive team in the patriots of the last few years. And that's one thing about New England in the last five years or so, what they look like in September is drastically different than what they look like in in December. So we'll see what so headache. But again, kudos to the Jaguars to ago and they in the same way that the Rams look the best team in the NFC top to bottom consistently beating beating one week and opponent on the road and beating opponent at home. That's what they did. And you could say though that it's more impressive what they did beating the giants in in New Jersey, and then. Beating the patriots at home, absolutely better than what the the opponents his faced. And I will say this to just frontloading in this conversation if the Jaguars continued doing this and if the Jaguars make the playoffs. And if the Jaguars go to the Super Bowl. They may not have enough to win it. But if they do it, Tom Coughlan should be in the hall of fame. Two. Super Bowls as a coach started the Jaguars and have along with that front office recast it. This is a tough tough team, physical brash, which you don't usually associate with Tom Coughlin football team. Really good. Let's go to the phone lines right now here on the show. Let's go to Mike Brooklyn. What's going on, Mike, how you Ben, Michael. Rich with a heard you talking about with using replay for revealing somebody's penalties. And I think it's it's not a bad idea. I think a better idea would be if somebody would have like a little common sense and and realize that they need to de-emphasized these penalties because I know the NFL doesn't care about me because I'm old school. They more catering to fantasy football crowd now who just want scoring, but I'm watching these games and it's like, I'm not watching football anymore. I'm watching an exhibition in -ficiating and these officials deciding games. So anything that you can do to, you know, stop from these injustices happening. The Klay met us just, I mean, I don't know how anybody who's a football fan can look at that and say, what are we doing here? Mike, I'm with you. I I am with you on. I'm hoping that there are folks in the NFL front office today or part of the operation. And part of the competition committee that are seeing that and they, it just takes usually takes a while for for the ship to turn for sometimes to realize. I always thought that the catch rule was was difficult and needed to be dealt with and the NFL front office and many in the competition committee were like, no, the rules are fine. They just need to be explained better. Then finally came around and no, we gotta change it that if everybody, ten men and women in a bar, think it's a catch. It should be a catch ten men and women in a bar, looking at that replay yesterday think that that should be a legal hit and sac. And the ones e says, it's not because the league is saying you need to protect the quarterbacks. And once we get into this realm and thanks for the call, Mike then for your passion. Once we get into this realm, then if they can't figure it out in real time, replace gotta step in. I think which then then then then makes people a little bit upset. On that front because they think that we're now watching a replay festival. But it wouldn't extend the length games either. It's just would be something that would be a challengeable rule in the last two minutes full bat into the last two minutes that would have been reviewed by the booth. You know, let's go to Steven Georgia here on the rich Eisen show what's up Steve. Reading rich from Valdosta Georgia. Winners Ville winning football program high school in the country. High school. Thanks for the greetings. Thanks for calling coaches right bays more Nikai, but I'm I'm calling about well, first off, longtime view or love your show. Next time I have to agree with Joel, your previous calls. I know you call it for messy country, Steve, but I'm passionate about big ten football, and I have very little to defend today to see you got the smarts and got him a good Georgia girl. Thank you. But I'm no, I'm calling on the urban Meyer. This man has a serious personality problem or character flowing. I've only seen a few of the media reports where they've gone back and revisited what happening Gainesville at inverse, Florida, and I hate the Gators, but I really felt bad the way they were done there. But if you go back, especially the local media there that covered it all the when the story there, their health, which was exactly what it was along with the decimation of the program here that last year total breakdown on discipline and the players, everything. And then when he all he was confronted with all of this in the months, after that, you'll see the same pattern that he's now at Ohio stay where he deflects or says that lie misspoke. But basically he's a liar. And that's why down here. When you say lying urban, the choir says Mayer. Steve, I appreciate the call. Let's let's chat some more appreciated that from SEC country. I hear that a lot from a lot of SEC fans, Eddie and Texas. You're here on the rich Eisen show what's up Eddie. When you put them back on hold for second Eddie's gonna in a bad cell reception right there. Let's oh yeah, the, let's let's play the is in advance of Melvin Ingram calling in Lorenzo Alexander who we've had on this show. Remember when he was out for like three four week periods leading the league in sacks, we ought to get him on the warn from buffalo, the the, the, the hard work that this guy had to put in to make his career. What it is today, which is a bona fide professional defensive football playing career. The number of teams you had a bounce around too, and he's gotten paid nicely in buffalo through hard work. This was him after the game talking about vaunt Davis, leaving the facility at halftime of the loss to the chargers. Never seen it ever pop mourner, high school college pros, never heard of it. Never seen it. And if this completely disrespecting went to his teammate and he say to you. Say that nobody he left when? Yeah, you know much as I know. I know I found out going into second half for the game coming out city. He's coming out. He retired. So tired, you don't retire. I mean, he put out this whole Instagram where he's like, yeah, apologized. Basically, hey, when I'm done playing, you know, when you're done playing you gotta you gotta be done playing because you're, you're making dangerous or less successful for others when you've lost the desire to play. The question is what he have had a desire to keep playing, Josh Allen actually at thrown the four touchdown passes in the first half. At a shame the Monty Davis who's had a long successful career of himself will be known as the guy who packed it in at halftime of an NFL game. Again, Lorenzo Alexander. I mean, a practice squad member of the Panthers after played his college ball Cowan oh, five. Undrafted kicked around with the ravens. Then spent six years with Washington, two years with our Zona one of Oakland before really coming into his own as a thirty five year old man spending the last three years of the bills. It really is something else that that would happen, but the chargers offense was very difficult for them to be dealing with and the chargers are now coming home to Los Angeles to play on the road. Interestingly enough against the Los Angeles Rams here, the Los Angeles chargers fresh off of that win, and then their home against San Francisco in in week number four before playing Oakland. And we always love having Melvin Ingram here on the rich Eisen show back on the program, how you doing Melvin. Now? Yeah. So did you hear that Fonte Davis tapped out the middle of the game and left? Did you guys hear that. I heard us crew. Did you hear during the game non. Okay. What did you guys were you guys able to do with Josh Allen that you saw what you could hunt? And then you went in and fed Melvin. Different looks at have a lot of. Really. Where where found you Melvin. Whereby found you, I'm in a locker room. Oh, you're in the locker room right now. Okay. 'cause reception's not that great in the locker room Elvin what's. Okay. Can you put Melvin back on hold? Let's let's see if we can, you know, see if we can improve this. Let's take a break and come back. See if we can improve things with Melvin Ingram here on this addition. The rich Eisen show eight, four, four, zero, four, rich number two. Dollar back with more in a moment. Football season is here and no one covers ball like cast one sportsman. We've got you covered on a daily basis with Dan, Patrick reach, is it? This might be just a walk in the park RJ bells dream preview and Ross Tucker's fantasy feast podcast. They're just creating more work for me at this point. We also have Jim Harbaugh with a tacky each day and revenge of the jocks with Martellus Bennett. Football's the ultimate soap opera. 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After buying tickets at the front gate, a news bleed seats, scared by poll, but he was in there. No, Ricky never did play in the big leagues, but he did switch his car insurance to gyco proud partner of major league baseball, which saved him a lot. So all in all things were good. Some elven was in the locker room in oven. Ingram is horrible reception. We're going to try and get him on tomorrow or later on in the week, our apologies for that front. So the triple g Cannella Alvarez fight went down over the weekend, went touching gloves. Admittedly, a little too late for me since I have to get up at the old crocodile named almost midnight eastern. So walk me through why why chapel g should feel host. Again, chip g definitely got hoes in the in the first fight. This fight was a lot more even according to copy box, triple g out, jabbed him landed more punches, threw more punches, but canal Khanna did with the pundits in the experts wanted him to do. He really took. The fight to triple g and he landed more power punches. And I guess in the eyes of the judges Dow's enough to earn the victory onto the scorecards, one of them had a draw and the two scorecards are one fifteen one thirteen, both giving the final round to Cannella Alvarez. Now, in the final round in the opening minutes, triple team was knocked canal out, and it happened in the tent and the eleventh granite John canal Alvarez kudos to both these guys took big time punches from each other, but triple g definitely rattled him in the last two rounds where you thought maybe there was a split second. He would go down didn't, but somehow they score the final round four canal and that gave him the majority win. What do you think should happen? I think you can make an argument that this fight was more of a draw. Then the first fights, I would have been fine with another draw, but I think just watching the fight at just think triple j just once again. When did more punches threw more punches, stood there and took every bigshot that Cannella took. I thought he won the fight again and definitely hasn't major beef. Obviously, he thought. So as soon as the decision was announced, he did not speak the max Kellerman in the ring. Afterward. He's spoke to nobody. He right to the locker room and got out of there. It's just tough because he's undefeated going into their last fight. The draw definitely puts a little blemish on his perfect record. And now this obviously, thirty eight one and one. Now, it's obviously a tough pill for him swale it's it's disappointing. It definitely sets up another third fight. Probably in may good down. Why would he do at money? Obviously he'll do it for probably fifty fifty split. How about this too? Floyd Mayweather showing up. Oh, I know in trying to Garth the event by having a video of him just happening to find Manny Paquito in a casino and challenging him to fight. Here's what I definitely don't wanna see that no chance. So we'll like so cut to what twenty twenty eight, right? Ten years from now, whoever is fighting for the big fight Belleville they'll they'll be they'll be fifty five year old Floyd Mayweather challenging Manny pack. You and then cut to two thousand thirty eight like cocoon, right? It'll be like, just we're gonna keep running. I'm like, like del Boca, vista Mandal about the, you know, threatening like is that what we're gonna do here? What this fight? Is there anybody that you tell me? 'cause you'd know the game a little bit better than is anybody that wants to see Mayweather fight patio again, right. Not that not that I know. I mean anybody not that I know of I is there anybody out there who would pay fifty bucks to see that on their television set. You could pay me fifty dollars and I'd probably watch it not the other way around interesting this, my just don't. Come on. If we had any stones, he challenged Alvarez very stuff because Canales only loss is to foot. He's forty one now any? Yeah. Any in Texas here on the rich Eisen show at that. Hey, good morning guys. Sorry, I had some bad reception earlier. It's okay. What's going on now? I have to reset my phone so talked good now. Okay. I'm sure reset your phone. I'm sure you saw someone from Ohio State to help you with that. Today? No, actually, I'm I'm a Texas, so I'll tell you. Okay too far from Austin, so. Good. No problem. What's on your mind? Well, first off I win. I win pay anybody to see may whether on discrete at all period. He's, I think he's a cheater boxer. He's not even a fighter, and that's why Pinon. And that's he's not. He's just an entertainer. He's like Donald Trump just like the NSA people. So what's on your mind? Football is, I know that's what you wanted to talk about. I just wanted to throw that out there quick for these for these officials to implement a lot of the the, you know, protecting the quarterback and things you know Matthews. I saw that game. I was pretty appointed, you know, I mean, when Rogers came out, he looked good. He had that brace on his knee and everything, but he did. He did a pretty decent job and I think that trying to stay off of his knee while these Vikings were trying to kill him. I mean, there were just, you know, tried to murder him trying to break his leg or something. Well, I, I don't know if they're thanks for the call. Thanks for calling back with your poor -ception. I don't think anybody was trying to hurt. I Rogers. I mean, look. Like I said, quarterbacks are very expensive. They're expensive, and they also bring ratings and truly, you know, I mean, we, it would be as if let's say there was something on in this. Well, it's a perfect example. They changed rules in baseball to protect catchers. Who are pricey, but they're not bringing ratings in the case of BUSTER Posey, they put fannies in the seats and they give chant people's chances to win. But they're very specialized players on the field. They've done that to protect them. Let's just say there was some. There was something going on in the NBA where. What shooting guards were going down. I'm trying to create the apples to apples here. There really isn't one of the NBA. So the hacker Shak selling injury or the intent, and the is is understandable from from the NFL offices. But we are seeing something here where it used to be remember used to be somebody used to crawl and hit a a member. You know somebody and the ankle and there'd be a flag, right? Okay. That was based on the Carson Palmer rule cannon low, can't hit him high. We're now heading. Now it's reached the point where we're hitting the quarterback in the gut with your shoulder pad. Now are if you're lifting them up and then throwing him to the ground WWE style that's not acceptable. I get that. I get that it looked because of the way he was throwing. It looked as if clay Matthews potentially the way that his left his left foot is sort of his plant leg came up off the. Around in a manner that made it looked like he had lifted him, but the fact is that his momentum was cook cousins. Momentum was going forward just as Klay him. It wasn't late so it he left his feet. Both feet were off the ground for one split second and Karenni saw that and through the flag upon further of you, it's clear. He did not pick him up, lift him plant him. It's terrible flagged for playing football. That is not what the, there's nobody in the NFL front officers. Like, you know what? Let's start flagging guys for playing football. That's not what they want. Don't want that. So we got, we got to have needs to be reviewing play back it up. If you can't figure it out how to do it in real time. That's why we were saying the helmet room that needs to be reviewable. Remember they came out and they said, we've talked about it. We're not gonna have it reviewable. We're not changing the rule, but they did clearly tell the officiated the officials that if it's incidental, it's massad don't do it and they've virtually cleaned that up. It's amazing how that hasn't come to roost at all. In the first. The surprise me, but we're seeing Jackson's that should happen. We're seeing the right thing happening, whatever they did for that do for this. Our final polls brought to you by truecar. You can recognize it good price with them because you see what other people paid for the car you want. When you're ready to buy new used visit truecar to enjoy more confident car buying experience have over the tough to argue with the result today, quarterback with the best performance of the weekend. Patrick Mahomes six touchdowns unbelievable sixty two percent. That's a I mean, I cannot wait to see what he looks like at home against San Francisco than at Denver. We already started. Remember the Adam dip is tone the pool week, seventeen last year, right? And then home for Jacksonville week, five baby. That's just a regular one o'clock, eastern noon, central time. Then at New England on Sunday night football. It's gonna be fun month over the next. Another four weeks fund month for watching Patrick Mahomes. That is just east fun to watch. So as to at Alabama, he'll be play a full game. Jalen hurts good things around because they need them. Finish a game. And by the way, Dan Bailey was name was mentioned nonstop last night because the Cowboys had cut him. He's back the Vikings who, as we all know at a couple miss kicks yesterday, they just picked him up. So Dan Bailey is now in Minnesota. So the Vikings avenue kicker tonight tonight. Tonight. I like the bears tonight. Bobby Wagner being out for Seattle scares me. Yeah. K. j. right to, yeah, but Bobby Wagner, heart and soul that team that concerns me. I think the bears take care of business at home. I think they're gonna come out with their first fifteen script to take a lead and hold onto it. That's my feeling. And that means Seattle goes home Owen to to take on the Cowboys next week who huge game the bears needed, bears need it right now to go one in one to keep pace with the one Owen one Vikings and Packers at the top blinds Owen to a man, they had a chance to come back on San Francisco now that people who get to send the lines, maybe Owen three and Matt Patricia. I head coaching gig is Brady Bella check and the angry patriots on Sunday night football. We'll talk about the patriots tomorrow with Willie mcginest in studio, three times SuperBowl champion in my friend from the NFL media group. Von Miller of the two Denver Broncos calls into the program and Rick Fox stop spot. Hang out. All right. 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A Star Is Born?

PTI

23:04 min | 2 years ago

A Star Is Born?

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It was not turned helmet is still behind the game, and this is all it matters to me. It was twenty one three. It didn't end that way didn't know. Well, the end. What else boil it right. I'm going to say, what did she go? It's nightmare on elm street for the ending, if not very good, central, AB, welcome. PTI, boys and girls. In today's episode, Pat Mahomes looks great. I in Fitzpatrick may keep his job and vaunting gave us walks away from his at half, but we begin today with the most notorious roughing, the passer penalty of the young NFL season. The one clay Matthews yesterday that surely cost the Packers victory Oldham down eight with a minute forty to go. Kirk cousins through deep Green Bay picked it off, but then it's called back because of the flag on Matthews who looked like he'd executed a textbook tackle cousins, led Minnesota to a touchdown and a two point conversion. That was a great past and the Vikings tied the Packers will bond at the Packers get host. Of course, he did. There's no argument on the other side. I don't wanna hear anybody defending the shield. I don't want you need their garbage Utah to tackle like death from fourth grade. Whenever they whenever they teach you how to tackle a form tackle. And so anything else that happens in his ironic because the rules in their largely because to protect Aaron Rodgers. Okay. Because he crashed last year in Brookwood his collarbone bone. So Nevada kings were involved in that did this is this is put a put, put two flags on the old saying, put a skirt on whoever uttered that Fano put flags on them, let it be slack football. This is an embarrassment to the league except the league. Is it embarrassed if you're gonna have the outcome be this, then you not having football, Tony, and this, and it's going to go down if they continue on this wrong. I'm not usually an alarmist anywhere near you, but this is not a helmet to helmet. This is not something violent, this is you wrap up and you lay the guy down. It's not even your full. There's no body weight. No, so so that has to change. I'm reminded. We talked about. For second, what do you mean has to change the NFL's? Not changing squad. Okay. Now I will go over what we went over this morning. All right, which is the NHL when they have a mistake, they changed the rules of the season. I don't know ready. They're ready to go. The NFL has to see that this mistake and they have to change it. I'm gonna give you four examples here. They were great endings yesterday. Denver, Oakland was a great ending Carolina, Atlanta last play. Cleveland New Orleans last play, Kansas City, Pittsburgh last. And what are we reading with? We're leading with a play call so it is in the interest of the NFL to understand. We gotta change this one, but that's not even the rule. Tony rule doesn't say, you can't tackle the quarterback, although it may as well. There's no body weight on the quarterback in that play. He wraps him up and Gillian Dow like I was putting a Matthew the bed when he was three years old with a whisper in his ear, they changed the helmet to helmet, will they Ma. Defied it. They've got to do something. Anything we'll, we'll see they want to protect their golden boy. Quarterbacks in Aaron Rodgers is that we'll sound notice wasn't against Aaron Rodgers with, but it wasn't will Rogers and cousins. The two highest pay quarterbacks in football were left in the dust actually yesterday by the forty second highest paid guy, Ryan Patrick who threw for four hundred yards. The second straight week Fitzpatrick and the buccaneers took care of the champs in Tampa, four Fitzpatrick's eight touchdown passes have gone for fifty or more yards, which is twice as many as the buccaneers had last season with your boy. Jameis Winston at quarterback highboard speaking of Tony. Can you see Winston the franchise quarterback, getting his job back after his suspension ends next week? Well, I'm not gonna say the James Winston will get his job back no matter what. And I don't think he'll get it back that soon because of what Ryan Fitzpatrick is doing to and how he's got. Eight touchdown passes. He's going for eight hundred yards passing. I would just suggest that people slow the role a little bit on Ryan fits magic. Okay, because he's got a long track record. Mike, this is something we can look at. He's been in a league, fourteen seasons. Now he sold. Most of it is a backup started a hundred twenty one games in fourteen seasons, not most as a backup. None of them in the playoffs. His teams have never made the playoffs. So I think I think this run will end, but as long as this run goes Jameis Winston sits, I wouldn't put James Winston back in the lineup for love or money. James Wisden has been a distraction. No, he's been disruptive to that franchise with his off. He'll situation off the field. Okay. Now, Fitzpatrick seems to at least have the respect of his t. He's right now absolute Chit, Julie, one Mr. Jackson whose catch his bombs seventy five yards. So he's not getting back in here. The only injury to Mr. Fitzpatrick until he got to underperforming could put Winston back in the line of I was co. James Winston was the overall number one pick and he's a good quarterback and his problems have been off my now. They have a certain amount of leverage over him. I will say this that that Ryan Fitzpatrick when he came out in the Conor McGregor outfit with the on Jackson jewelry on that was very, very funny was that may come back to bite him in the behind by the way it make-. Wince went to starting. Oh, yeah. Yeah. The eagles Welsh who had this say, I can't tell you that for the first four weeks. I'm not ready to decide that. We'll know he's mobility. The moment he feels like throwing the foles under the bus. That's why couldn't wait till he got to a microphone. That's what I say. Here's my starter. Can I ask him question you know, series the better quarterback so far in the history of that team, not one game who the quarter Garcia, marijuana, Super Bowl. Larson winces the better quarterback Pat Mahomes threw for four touchdown. Last Sunday yesterday threw for six touchdowns. That's ten in two games. That's the highest amount ever in the first two games of a season. Six touchdowns yesterday only five incompletions so far this season Mahomes is the finorm will Bonner you persuaded Mahomes as the real deal. Gin, slow, slow, slow rolled after two weeks. But yeah, man, I mean, Andy Reid, history you talking about. I know Andy Reid, great coach, but how about the scouting for Kansas City in the players they have on the field, particularly on office by the way, how many extra first round picks of the chiefs need to trade in the draft on draft night to get Mahomes. None, none. They just you not your own pick. That's right. It took him not available to others. Hankyu mental Trubisky reference. Just two people who don't know Mitchell Trubisky was not. It's really a Ryan pace comment about what made the deal now Mahomes. These don't look like difficult throws. Maybe he's just reading and assessing diagnosing and putting the ball. Here and they know have to produce difficult throws. Wow, Tony. And yes, a hundred times, yes. And you see the difference in an Andy Reid offense with Alex Smith who could not go that far down the field. So you see that again, you urge caution after two games because as we will know the other team watches film to do and they pay their coaches as well. So after game, six, if it's going like this, then you jump up and down because you got tired kill, you got Travis, Kelsey. I mean, you ain't got play. They got you left that targets. That's right. They seem to give them enough time. Not that he needs much. We know the person working on a road work as we around quarterback offense. Andy Reid and sap. Certain get all good fourteen the got rid of a Pro Bowl starting quarterback, Michael, that you've got like what a spin, it four. One of the few times I can remember there was a team waiting in the weeds to the patriots and clocked them. Various Jacksonville players promised. They beat New England and did it Blake Bortles through it, ran it through some more and wound up with three hundred and fifty passing yards and four touchdowns. Meanwhile, the Jags defense live, Tom Brady screaming and his own players not the he did Jack Tony. You buy in two weeks into this new season that the Jaguars are the best team in AFC. I would say right now they are. Yeah, that was a convincing win. Bortles was really, really good for me. The opener was to see the Jacksonville players literally run away from the defenders on doing so you always you ask yourself, you look at the AFC. You ask yourself at what point to the patriots go over the edge. At what point asking what to sealers go over the edge. I'm not ready to say this. Yes, but I might look back on this and say that this this was the beginning point. If you asked me to pick the Super Bowl right now, you know who I pick Jacksonville and the Rams because the Rams are killing it ransom crow Rams and killed him. Here's the Rams. I mean, the last had a dog team yesterday I hate the result. FitzGerald has to play for this tasting late this late eighties to in this in the last six quarters, the Rams about scored opponents fifty, seven to go. So if I'm picking right now and I get that the New England Patriots often have a clunker early in the year and back into one and one or two and one. This is what they do come November and December when it's time to put on charge. That's what they do. That's right. And I'm not trying to despair Jacksonville, Jacksonville, do what they need to do. Jacksonville was confronted early in the season with the champ of all champs in the last few decades in this sport, and they took them down and I did the opportunity, but I'm not gonna crown Dennis Green, so New England retools immediately. By doing this, they make a trade for Josh scored who was a wide receiver rental that defend. I understand. But if you score forty one up, thirty, seven, you're still going to win the games. So they made that first move immediately. I think it's good move. The patriots have a habit of picking up people in everybody else thinks they can't. Nobody wears about fifty percent of its long. Maybe this is the ones that were maybe this is one that were okay, veteran defensive back vantera. Laundry, you boo simply witted. We'll have time yesterday. He retired at halftime as Buffalo Bills were down twenty eight, the chargers. That's it. I'm done coach Sean McDermott said, quote, he pulled himself out of the game. He communicated to us that he was done unquote and done and linebacker. Lorenzo Alexander, said, quote, pop Warner high school pros, never heard of it. Never seen it. Just completely disrespectful to his teammates. Quote, we'll bundles vaunting gave us deserve any sort of credit for walking away when he felt he no longer had it. No, no, no, no, no, you and I have covered all the sports in our lives and the sport where you are most called upon to support your teammates port, the person next to you is football. I mean, bless with tears, and it's all there all the time every quarter every play you cannot turn and just say, I'm done. I'm out babe. You can't do that. What you, there's a way to do this this, what is it? There's a way to do this gracefully what you do is you say, my wrist hurts my arm hurricane. You sit in the locker again and at the end you say, I've had a great career. I'm getting injured too much now. I don't think I have back from it. Thank you very much. You just acts. How heard it get over out of the stadium lot? You don't. Here's an interesting thing. Thank you for mentioning a car because long ago when I used to cover things like the Indianapolis, five hundred. I found out that every once in a while every once in a while they'll be driver who goes into the pit pretty early and he's out for the rest of the race because he suddenly realizes I can't do this anymore. So what they say is fine. What they say is the brake pads didn't go something happened on the axle. They give somebody a VAR as our have come up. He didn't think with the help of a trainer or dot terrible. He said, I, I was dinged up in the first half. I really wanted to buy. You can't earn a walk. By the way. Buffalo looks like a, they made the playoffs last. They look like a disaster at the moment. Let's take a break coming up, the Browns lose again, which should they feel proud of the progress. They're making sure that feel Wisconsin got upset by twenty eight, twenty three and a half point underdog on Saturday. But was this the worst loss of the week? Got bonday Davis. You've got Nathan Peterman. You've got AJ mccaren that coaster. He's jacked, but does he know what he's doing? Pardon? The interruption is brought to you by Applebee's to go. I just saved hundreds of dollars by switching to Geico. I should've done this years ago. Disclaimer crumbling Buchan time is physically impossible unless you know how to build a functioning time machine. Then by all means travel twenty five years back in time, Switzer car insurance Geico you could save a bunch of money. You're there. Please prevent provincial younger self from wearing sleeveless tuxedo t-shirt. Parachute pants, glitter, high tops, your senior prom, and at long last rectify this horrible crime against nature. Geico's absolve liability. If you've destroyed the fabric of time and space, Geico fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. It's male time, and here's how we'd like it to work. You send us thoughtful funny grammatically correct emails and we put them on the air. Maybe one day come on top it despite not winning again, should the Browns feel good about the way they've played somebody. I'm running into this moral victories. You know, apple slices and trophies for everybody in the in the pros paying a lot of money. But the fact is without a kicker, letting them down they should be to an yes, everybody else on that. Got rid of the kicker. I know got really kick her today play so much better than they played last year or the year before. And so if you're grading everyone but the kicker to games in, sorry, Mr. Gonzales, the answer would be. Yeah, they should feel better. I think it's Aren slices and not apple. I think it's aren't slices a my correct on this too. They played the jets on Thursday night. I don't know which would be a chance for them to get their first victory. I think they have to feel even without a win. That great progress has been made. They look like the they, they were in it the an art in eighteen the ones that are suing world teams. They were what they've got to feel. They're an eight win by was my most confidence. Sixteen point win the confidence today. Barely eat that. The Redskins didn't announce a sell out for the first time in more than fifty years. It could announce one big deal little deal, no deal. This is a big deal locally here in Washington DC. They couldn't announced one because there were thirty thousand empty seats. The top deck yesterday looked like the Miami Marlins games. It was awful for fifty years. They owned Washington, redefined stadiums. They all right, Washington fitting RFK or do you maybe just RFK in Phoenix. Here's a combination here. There's a combination of a bad team adul- team, a terrible in game experience. The sense that you being gouged and unresponsive management. And Mike, this is beginning to feel like the beginning of a revolution, Tony like you when I turn the Redskins game on yesterday, having sat through many of those fifty. I've never seen this because it's never happened. Ever seen use the word astonished and I could not believe it all of those things. You said, have led to this the home experience being better than the in game and the Washington Redskins game day experience at ballpark. Has been worst in the league. All the stadiums have, and wow, people just said, no. They worse loss, Nebraska, Florida state. Glad we left up my purple people or Wisconsin. These are all very bad losses. I think I would have said that the Wisconsin loss is probably the worst loss. No. 'cause they were number four in the unions are legit and they lost look, the Bill task lost a Troy. What are your Rutgers Maryland off. Brask all down. But you know what I'm gonna say here. The one that feels like the worst is Florida state because Willie Taggart for offense does not produce any points, three against Virginia Tech, seven at Syracuse, there are going to there's going to be a gofundme me to buy him outlets. Virginia Tech and Syracuse are legit programs that go to bowls and try to challenge something every now and a little bit more every now and then yes, yes. Rascal loft in Lincoln you have pronounced mister frost like many other people go on. This means you again in may. Happen to probably will the right now. Tony, the worst losses at home. The trick on now that nebr- more than Wisconsin at home as the number four team in the country. I think you're going to read this to me or aren't you? Oh, I'm sorry. I am. Yes. Are you ready for a third fight between canal, oh, and triple j. Absolutely. Tony. This was one of the twenty greatest fights I've ever seen. This is up there with fights like Ray Leonard versus now didn't have the a knockout in it, but for just rock them sock and robots for two guys standing in the military, no run into the ring. No rope adobo in the corner or laying on the ropes. They just pound each other. Scientifically talk about the sweet science triple g was robbed. He won the fight, but I wanna see it again for third time. I don't think anybody ever got mad at Frazier and Ali fighting all the time for. Here's what I don't wanna see Paki our and may with. I don't know if he may whether any. I don't wanna see that only those Mayweather highlights. They couldn't fill one round of action. In this this fight for twelve rounds. I don't understand how you scored this way because triple JI won the tenth round. He won the eleventh and the twelfth standoff, you can't. You can't give Cannella Alvarez that decision. You'll watch it again and I'll watch it again and pay for female. Let's take one last break, but still to come. How embarrassed should Arkansas being that they failed to play through the whistle. And that's the audience. After his latest one, you see this call as laptop, show it again referred to the God of goals. That's okay, right? It was. I sleep. I just missed it on the wick I missed it. Did you know ADT can design and install a smart home just for you a new smart home at your service customized for your lifestyle? ADT's automation, even unlocks the front door for friends who arrive at your place early for the game while you're still getting snapped. Now, that's what I call game day service. It's all controlled from the ADT app or the sound of your voice and backed by twenty four, seven protection visit ABT dot com. Slash smart to learn more about how ADT can help keep your home safe and smart. Itemise her option is brought to you by old spice. She knows best. Every time people have thirty third birthday Alexandra vegetal has anybody ever gotten more enjoyment out of winning a championship than Ovechkin? Has he was doing k. stands with the Stanley Cup who's probably hung over and five continents. Talk about getting on the monkey off your back. You'd have in Kong on there. Now, of course, people asking the capital's repeat. Yeah, they don't have to like the cubs, right? We'll know. I wanted to cups a repeat. They didn't, but I wanna multiple. You want the capitals. Get another one. You'll hear wonderful that they got a new hit. I don't do challenges, Tony, happy anniversary Sam darnold around the state last year. Donald threw for three hundred ninety seven yards and three touchdowns. We'd US seats to a double overtime win over the Texas longhorns after beating Detroit debut darnold came back to earth a bit against the dolphins instead of the two touchdowns in one pick he had against the lions. He had one touchdown. Two picks against Miami, be completed sixty. One percent of his passes got three hundred thirty four yards. He looks like a starter. So you're fairly happy with the quarterback of your team of your youth. He looks. Like a starter don't disbars you willing to go right at the moment who green the moment, happy trails to Arkansas, punt return defense, the deception that the North Texas punt returner displayed works for a ninety yard touchdown, but it can get you crushed North Texas, lucky that Arkansas special team had no, how? What was going on soon? It was a fair catch by the way. Arkansas has learning loss to Colorado state and now by twenty seven points to North Texas, that is a disaster for big time school, like art, don't. We have that being the worst loss of the weekend. I don't know Arkansas losing to North Texas. How are they not fallen off the side of the cliff at the moment? That's a big boot. One correction, the chiefs did trait a future. I move up and get Patrick Mahomes gotta apologize o- blinded by his hatred based Trubisky up. Chairs aren't even Paul Ryan pace by bad this here we go. Do Wayne Wade is coming back for farewell season with the heat. What do you expect the gifts around the le- the Dwayne Wade. Late night most everywhere, rocking chairs and headphones, whatever pain, well-paying Sam. Bradford had ninety yards passing in yesterday's thirty four. Nothing beat down by the Rams Josh Rosen talk. The clock is ticking on that. Wow, it'd be, why does he need headphones? What is the way wait need? Nothing jump shot and all year old. The athletic report hasn't Jimmy Butler is media, Tom vivid, oh, to discuss his future with the team kid. He actually want how they call the timber wolves now because they Derrick rose Taj. Gibson luol dang front, but I'm a maybe he's looking elsewhere like New York City. That's the rumor. Would you want him back in China? The love him back, okay, Tom sport is spotless. Career goal. You impressed. It was fabulous. I couldn't even get my leg to do that last one Seahawks and bears tonight who you got. I want Ryan paces bears team. He put together. I want that's even with. But I would trade that for cubs victory and Arizona's and I'm not gonna lie about trying to go to the nets time. I'm. Born, there's going to be Seattle, Tony. I'm Mike wilbon same time tomorrow knuckleheads. Now we send you to Susie caller in Chicago, sunny Chicago from.

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Rollin' With Mahome-y

High Noon

23:21 min | 2 years ago

Rollin' With Mahome-y

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Is it just remember him din of some sort chains you wear the board change you had to get snatched. Well, that's a fair point. There's well. We got a name and the first one is Patrick Maha day. Re those glasses. Homes, rectum six, touchdowns and forty two points in a win over the Steelers and the chiefs new starting quarterback. Now, we've the league with ten touchdowns through two weeks or money, how much do you expect what we've seen to continue? Okay. It kit. Keep going like. This. Yeah, going like this. Like if he keeps doing this to do those eighty touchdowns right. Keep going like this for what the chiefs have is a bunch of really, really, really fast guys. Eddie dude who throws the ball really hard and seems to be doing so pretty accurately. What are you supposed to do against this? If those dudes are going to be wide open, the way they are look, he's not being asked that threat a whole lot of needles here. That's no shot to him. It's just showing how easy it could be when these dudes this fast. Although I think he's proven that he has more of an ability to thread the needle than we thought. I mean, we knew the guy apparently can throw the football sixty miles an hour, which is like the fastest combine record or whatever, at least tied for it. But before the draft people were comparing him to Jay Cutler and now, right. He can throw from inside the pocket. He has that arm. He can certainly scramble. He's playing like a guy that none of us really have a great comparison for. Yeah, except we've seen this movie before we let us call down what we are seeing from him is incredible. We are not. Going to extrapolate from these two gangs with the rest of his career is going to be like, no, what the rest of the season is going to be like. But we know at least for right now before the rest of the league is caught up to whatever they see it on film, visit exhilarating to watch this video. And to your point Andy Reid who is, you know, not the best time management put. It is a genius, a creative genius. When it comes to offensive scheming. He was doing stuff with Alex Smith, making him the best passer in the league last year, one of them. And now he gets to do this with the guy with an actual. The thing with Alex Smith is Alex Smith, oh, the ball down. The field of the dude is wide open, right? He's risk averse. This guy, the guys wide open. Oh, man. Is it. Tout thing in buddy. Andy Reid use this as good. He's good at co chair. There we go. Next names play Matthews and fourth quarter. The Packers linebacker was called for a reference to pass a penalty like everybody else in the league negated, Kirk cousins, interception that would have sealed a win for the Packers. Instead, the game ended in a tie. It's watch what happens. Played coming up the middle on with Aero's four. Now you may be wondering roughing the passer. Why did they call roughing the passer on that play? You may be looking at that in spill asking yourself, why did they call roughing the passer? And that was of course an interception which would have seen him again. Yeah, that was the. That was the end. The Vikings were behind that was the last drive. It would have been the end up, Pablo. Did the rest steel packed? They did, but that is in the mind of, I think defensive players more so than the rules. I think the rules have gotten so vague at this point where we're kind of dealing with what baseball did in my mind when they wanted to juice the ball to create home runs, right? The defense in baseball, man, the pitchers. They hated it. But what baseball realizing what the NFL is realizing I think is that this is what enter taint is in our game, keeping these quarterbacks healthy and they may not like it is maybe manipulation straight up with. That's what they want to do because it's better for business to make sure that we protect the Kirk cousins of the world on though. Do you really. That this is about entertainment though. I don't know. But the reason I'm asking that is what makes you say this is a more entertaining game. I don't have any evidence to indicate that people find this to be more entertaining. People are frustrated by watching calls like those. I think they're trying to stay on court. This is a safety thing that they're doing as much as anything else got their misguided notions, safety. Here's my problem with this. The league said, the clay Matthews got that because he picked him up in threw him down. Now I'm willing to deal with this idea that I don't know what a catch is now. I don't know what it means to pick somebody up. What where was the picket in? Where was the upping? I didn't see either of those in. That's where Matthews has a point. Yeah, I think what the league's motive here is if I were to be their defense attorney and his argument, it's that if you injure a quarterback, then everything around that team gets less interesting. The ratings will go down. We want those guys to be healthy. That's just the choice. They've buddy that had already been taken care of where they got to this point and maybe a little bit over the top at this. Ryan fits freakin Patrick as this name. I love this man. I've been g mail address and everything for the second week in a row. The Harvard legend went off putting up four hundred into yards and four touchdowns being eagles yesterday, but Monte, the bucks cannot bench fits magic for Jamieson week four. If you keep playing like this. Right? Of course, Canaan, it's a matter of whether they're actually going to do it. This has become the most frustrating thing in the world for me Ryan, this pack, his what the argument for keeping Ryan Fitzpatrick is the hot hand. That doesn't. That doesn't exist. It doesn't exist at the casino. You know why? Because see, stays open because people think that the hot hand is a legitimate concept. We have thirteen years of evidence of what Ryan Fitzpatrick is you got two choices with him. You can ride this Hodge street until it crashes and burns, or you can get out of the car before it goes over the bridge. Why are you waiting to go over the bridge? Because there is a midway point between the two options you presented and it's to do a barrel roll while the car is kinda skidding right? Because I think not to bring up the other Harvard name that comes to mind when we talk about great runs that may or may not be fleeting. I think it would like to end Tony said about Jeremy Lin. I'm going to ride him like he's frigging secretariat. How out that working. Listen, listen, listen, how did work? It worked wonderfully for a couple of weeks, and then you can make a choice to barrel roll out of the car Bo because they are winning right now and they have a locker room. So. Then looks remarkably happy if we can bring up the video, please. That explains why I'm dressed like this people out there actually don't know why I'm wearing several chains. We got Sean Jackson, Ryan, Patrick being a buddy cop movie after this game. The way those guys in different weight classes that jackets. I got like two more because he needs this stuff. Depend on. What I would dead. You can change the one. There is one that he could not have. Detested I thought I don't have. Thought it was here go forgiven for the. As big about giving right. Eric? Yes, these guys love each other Beaumont do do they love each other. I'm willing to say that if you give your man, your chains Bomani gave you. About the chain life other than the green March that are be on your chest. When you take that stuff off one of these plants at the very. These are the arguments though, and things you have to watch out James because look, but people that was actually going to say that thank you so much for doing it. For me, James has to be hit the Jackson. He's got be at these guys deep. He's done a poor job of doing that this for in his career, how ever they got a big decision to make those western his contract at the end of the year. We know that dude is you go with who your quarterback is. Jamie's cannot start over Ryan. Fitzpatrick is ripe. His patron had three games and you don't have a decision to make on James. You might as well get on the road. Just keep winning until you don't anymore. It's all all the logic you normally used though it out the window and chased vantera Davis the hapless bills loss again yesterday, and after the game, we found out the quarterback Bontade Davis retired at halftime. Melva shift linebacker Lorenzo Alexander explained after the gay. Seen anything like that and you're gonna ever seen it ever mourner high-school college. Never heard of never seen it just completely disrespecting, but went to his team mate, and he's. Anybody to say nothing. Nobody. He left yet. You know, as much as I know, I know I found out. Coming out city says he's not coming out. He'd be tired. Mess it. Don't put out a statement is he's played through a lot of injuries at all that he had had enough that he was gonna do this anymore. But if you have you ever seen somebody walk out in the middle of this shift, no level of. Level of frustration that somewhat has to have watch somebody walk out of this shift at burger at Burger King once right. This took that hat off the door, but then Lyon was out the door and they weren't enough people and that's what it is to play for the Buffalo Bills it is and Vaughn Davis in that statement took about two hundred and sixty words to say what Roberto Durant said in. Right? There's no coincidence. I think that football and boxing have given us the two most memorable at least stories of quitting. And so empathetic to that man for saying no more I've had enough, but I'm also sympathize to his teammates who are like, what about us? Yeah. After forward or not. There. They're right. They all want to quit two men Peter, Josh Allen drove this man to the brink like quite leg. When John decided on first base one day, you know what? I'm not gonna play baseball anymore. The sacrifice that is required to play football is different that makes you want to quit more, but it also makes it a big thing when you do in fact actually quit. Yes. And he did actually quit in the better. Didn't take attention high noon viewers. High noon is brought to you by Geico. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Did you know ADT can design and install a smart home just for you, a new smart home, your service customized for your lifestyle. AT can even close your garage door while your at your kid's soccer practice to help keep criminals and critters sideline. That's what I call goal keeping service. It's all controlled from the ADT app, four, the sound of your voice and back by twenty four, seven protection visit ATT dot com. Slash smart to learn more about how ADT can help keep your home safe and smart wishy go to thing. I'm going to have to explain a little bit about how my career has gone. She'd be embarrassed as I was if I hadn't seen Friday. I have seen Friday. I have seen it point. Nine four times hasn't seen Friday day of the day quotes of the day better. Not say my bad might get his ass. Sem- abroad. James about former Browns kickers aimed in zone. The field goals to extra poise that caused browse the first win at six thirty one day. Listen to this sad Brown's fed. Are you kidding me and Tonio Calloway. That's what I'm talking about that was crazy set up though, but are you kidding me on the extra point jokes? No, he'd been not saying my bad. No, not my baby might get his ass. What. The Browns have waived this young kicker, and that is the appropriate move. But let's not pile on the guy because his reaction as he sat there at the end of the game had to be consoled by the saints. Kicker was obviously existential grid that befalls any kicker who is afflicted by imposter syndrome because they fear that really football player and also the fact that, yes, he knows he failed this one job, any failed at it. So I think he knows how bad he is. Yeah, I mean, he doesn't play for them anymore. Apparently had a growing pool to something like that, and there is the irony of football is that that is the most truly individual activity. There isn't football being a place kicker for the guys who are probably worst wired to handle all the pressure that comes from it, and I understand Browns fans being furious with him about missing those kicks. But that brings me to Brian James. It does. What are you mad about? LeBron the most backwards bandwagon jumping type in the world because we know he grew up as a Cowboys fan. Then he had booth who who and now your ground fan, you didn't have to take it that far. Dog who signs up for that is your life so good that you can decide a Browns fan it is he the bandwagon jumps on the bandwagon of charity. He wants everyone to know that he's here with you, but by the way, you know, who is loving. All of this is former Cowboys kicker. Dan Bailey who was caught in now has many suitors Vikings, and now he's kicked terrible. We've yet there's a lot of things we could have done better today. There's a long, long list. Said Bill, Bella check after watching. Blake Bortles thrash the patriots for three hundred seventy seven yards and four touchdowns was this game more about the Jags actually being great or the patriots falling off. I mean week to right, let us go there, but let's get laugh. Forget rather this is a team without litter for net. Now, all the patriots doing with Blake Bortles was you're gonna have to be the guy doing like they made that call. You're not going to do this to us on the ground. It's going to have to be, and they went maybe a little too far on that like that. Tim tebow playoff gal. He was a seventh grader, and he was like, okay, anybody can do this including me. Maybe that was part of it. We'll look the Jags heavy limited quarterback and their limited quarterback did no members on that defense. Blake Bortles without here doing spin moves in the open field. That's how much of a Honus that Blake Bortles hasn't. That's the kind of game plan that the Jaguars drew up. I mean, this was not close but wide open so open. But if you're a patriots fan and you're wondering is this thing that the patriots survive the patriots win, they lose. They tend to lose like in the first two weeks. It happened last year with the chiefs having to your before that with the chiefs I think is well twenty fourteen twenty. All these things have happened to the patriots. They'll be fine, but that's just the bear. They should be fun. But we cannot assume that this just goes forever. Quote, we gotta do something to give more pressure, maybe call more blitzes. Sid Jon Gruden laters right? As seven, meet lost twenty two nineteen in Denver. Maybe we should call blitz. Next quote, trade me, let's find out. Tweeted, Antonio Brown as Steelers fan who wrote on Twitter quote, AB needs to thank his lucky stars because he was drafted by a team that had been in Ben got AB paid, you know, darn, well, you wouldn't put up those numbers for other teams and quote, Bo, is everything going to be okay with the Steelers? I don't know, man, all the races to be. I one thing that another. Now let's start here. Our good Buddy Ryan scarf piano. What he says, there's petting ridiculous. Odio Brown is now the villian discussion as perhaps the best wide receiver of all time we have seen what happens. Right? Like this guy is really, really, really, really, really out. She's incredible, but there's so much noise around the Steelers in a way that you don't think of that franchise is one that you would expect to be noisy in that way, and he can't help himself on the internet. He just cannot no one somewhere. Mike Tomlin who just last week gave this whole soliloquy, but how social media is the bane of our existence. And it's not really what players think that we should. Didn't care about it because it's not journalistic has this land in his laugh. Antonio Brown is all of the things you said one of the greatest of all time greatest right now, but he is seeking out conflict where it doesn't need to be. Why does this man matter? Why does he matter? Man, but you know what we get involved get, Bob, did that circumstance. But I'm amazed though by like Antonio Brown is his mentions have to look like a slot machine gotta be somebody who do that with people on the do. I don't know how he keeps his straight with all these people that are coming at him, but apparently he had time. He did not threaten to go up in a man's job. This time you didn't go Jesse, Washington autumn, thank God. He went ready to fight but say it in his face. He might be ready to fight. You can download the high noon podcast on apple podcast on the ESPN app for mommy's too. I also have one just in case you were wondering you're working late when you get into Lert on your smartphone, your blink motion, activated security camera, picked up something suspicious at home. You open your. Gap and watch a video clip of someone peering through your kitchen window. You dial nine one one and police role. I mean, isn't the point of having home security to alert you before bad stuff happens not after that's what blink does order your blink cameras now and get fifteen percent off at blinkprotect dot com. Slash score blinkprotect dot com. Slash score yo. I wish people would have been hearing, listen to St. today Smith scream at the world about Barbara. Lewis is a good above all the moves that he started screaming at me, that man has done like six hours of radio television today, and I want a seventh. He's going strong. Attention by the way, is exporting on able one ball. We go retract days number is ninety. That's how many are Sam. Bradford threw four yesterday on twenty seven tenths. How long would before putting quarterback of the future, Josh Rosen in negative four quarters. This man Bomani is making fifteen million guaranteed this year. He has made one hundred and thirty four million dollars in his career. The seems to be the legend at the Bank that the other legends at the Bank tell stories about. Yes, man, despite all evidence does Rosen yawning. Backup quarterback to y'all making fifteen million. Okay. Well, here's the thing right Sam Bradford, I think is physically done the last time we saw him play by the way he looked really good. He looked good, Minnesota, and he was weighing retirement last year. The cord Nel's apparently are as bad as the bills. They just play on the west coast. Therefore we don't pay attention so you gotta ask it. They're just afraid of throwing rose out there because they are so bad, but there is no justification for keeping Sam Bradford on the field. If he's going to play like this, this is terrible. They have scored. The cardinals had zero touchdowns of consequence in two weeks, they had to David Johnson Ron in week one that was followed by missed two point conversion because why not go for that at that point. But this team really has a solution. The question is who have faith and that's to not mess up opportunity. Is that a solution like getting out of their solution is only solution if fixes something isn't actually Josh rowing's in he had this lose for right now. That's the thing. Are they so bad that you have to keep him out of there? Protect it. KOMO tribe is saying thing, but Peterman and Sam, Bradford lookalike the richer Peterman, Richard Peterman, his name. Enclosing send a shout out to Keith grew the north tex- retired, who might be the most courageous and trusting man in the history of college football on a whole day of world. I look at this. They beat the brakes off Arkansas about a wave sub. Chad Moore's. Now you see this, this is a. Liner by Keegan dash. Right. Wasn't a fair kit. It just seemed like a fair catch. He took off up the sideline, peace out. Now as a really interesting article dog, it'd be him into special teams. Coach buy everything that went into is that feed by the way of everything that went into play into making this happen in a big port was the returner had to run the risk. The somebody knew it wasn't a fair and then blew him out of there any didn't. He wrote it all the way out me. Sorry, halfway through this is one of the greatest most deceptive plays I've ever seen. I didn't think football could do the will of the hidden ball trick. I didn't think he would survive all of that. But if I am playing North Texas next week, I'm probably going to hit him no matter what I'll be just for safety personally. Well, this is what I think is going to happen. Next time. He makes a fear kitsch. It will be the fairest catch you will think that he is. You. This has like this. There's no way to work. Mr. In closing. I know politics is a radioactive subjects these days, but I would like to pointlessly beg a sitting Senator to reconsider his most recent declaration of war. Sitting Senator Manny Paquito arched this Floyd Mayweather. Agreeing to do what I hope to our Lord Jones and all you. Got you. He does. Doesn't matter on became away. Hold on. Are they saying they go to fight again in December, they apparently are going to fight again running back. They are running this back there by the way at ultra in Japan, brokering this deal. And I just want to remind many pack. You know that when I interviewed you in two thousand and eight, you said you would retire in two thousand nine. And when I interviewed your trainer, Freddie Roach in two thousand nine said you retire in two thousand ten Freddie Roach longer trees back yell. Many pack is still out here trying to this grace, the homeland by beating by being beaten up by that man, you got two choices. Load him some money, or it's going to be another fight changed shame.

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Is Quitting Underrated?

The Right Time with Bomani Jones

1:04:41 hr | 2 years ago

Is Quitting Underrated?

"Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time. My name is Bomani Jones. Thanks. Listen on the ESPN app, apple podcasts where we could you podcast. We appreciate you. Listen is review gives five stars. You only give us four stars. I'm inclined to think that you are a hater coming up. Josh Gordon went to the patriots dog about your football teams that you might need worry about an you guys, giving us your stories by the time you got so tired of your job. You just quit in the middle of it. Speaking of which. Davis, goodies job in the middle shift. I feel like the way to evaluate that situation is really, he quit his job in the middle of his shift. I feel like that way makes it a little bit more relatable. It seems like a crazy idea just because I can't find anybody around football who can remember a time that somebody just did this like I can think about him baseball. John Kruk one day with standing on base and just decided, you know what? I'm good in any went ahead and kept him moving right football though. Road doesn't really happen like that. And I imagine a part of why doesn't really happen like that and football's peer pressure, right? Like you are letting people down when you walk out. Like if you're John crook and your baseball player, you can walk into work that day and you could say, hey, I kinda need a day off and. Your boss look at you and be like, all right, cool. And go ahead and give you a day off. Ain't no days off in football. That's not really how this thing works. You show up in that bad boy, you play. That's what it is duck. They got to have time of what was looking like. Another demoralizing loss. Imagine caught an Uber to crib and said, no moss had a statement ready pretty quick by the way for it to be a two hundred sixty worse statement. He rattled that thing off, but I wanna be clear about one thing. I don't blame anyone who plays for the Buffalo Bills for being furious with this dude, yo man, they know that they not about to win that game like fifty. Two other dudes out there that know that a giant l. is hitting down to pike and they went out there to take it like everybody signed up to take the l. but Pablo is takes us live for madman about this. That's what the monies for. And apparently vantera Davis was like. Money isn't enough. And in fact you can have back some of the money that you've already given me that money that you've guarantee me for the rest of the year. Now, doc, I don't even need that. What I need is to no longer play for the Buffalo Bills. Now, think about this that do could easily been like a man. I got a little issue McGraw and you know he becoming back from the surgery or whatever they will. All kinds little bitty lies that he could have told. No, he didn't wanna tell. None of those lies. Lies were not what he was here for all he wanted to do was go to the crib, and that was it. Pace. Thanks for stopping by the poop. Wow. Wow gave it's been two days and we're still laughing. Oh man. When this happened, I dislike knew it was going to be them main thing for the vodka week and to be head this kind of thing that people look forward to. Right. And maybe they hit up every other sports like I can't hit. Can't wait to hear you talk about Dave's. Maybe everybody else that does my job got approach into same way. I really don't have any idea, but I know this one the streets was coming here. Like I feel like the only way more people would have come to hit us up above are Daves of sny somebody chain on the way out. People know what people know what they get here. People know what we are here to provide. Now, this is where I'm towards the right word because I don't think you have to be torn on this. I totally get bills or mad. I also recognize that sometimes people just gotta be mad, right? And apparently day because this is one of those times with somebody just had to be mad because I feel like and I could be wrong here football. One of those things, you got to be one hundred percent in. Oh, to perform on any level whatsoever. If you're not in it to play football, one hundred percent, there's chance it might get you killed Lee gin Amelie kilt if you're not in it, I don't care if he's just a corner or not. You just can't be halfway when it comes to it in Dave's thing was he said, hey, man, I've gone through all these different surgeries. I just had another one. I've gone through the ups and downs and it just hit me all at once that I want to be healthy. When I get out of playing this game. I don't feel like he was telling the truth when he said that his concern was simply being healthy. That's not to say that. I don't think that his concern was health. I do think that he's concerned about his health. I don't think that he is, you know, you just self destructive and wants to go himself down. I think he's concerned about his health, but I think he looked around said, why am I going to ruin my health to go sixteen? They might not go and sixteen. But if you played for buffalo, I don't know how you wouldn't feel like y'all. We're about to go over sixteen when you look at. Peterman and then you realize the do they go replace him with is Josh Allen. That feels real. Oh, and sixteen. Imagine if you suffered like forget a career threatening injury. Can you imagine if you suffered a life threatening injury in the name of the maybe soon to be Owen, sixteen Buffalo Bills like, and you imagine the way that you look at yourself in the mirror, but you realize I made this sacrifice for losing. All it was going to do was lose at made this sacrifice just to lose all night trying to make no sacrifice. Just lose as a man decided no moss I have had enough. I'm done any rolled out. Wow, which is why his teammates are so mad at him because he got the good idea I that might be actually right who wells, there's somebody somebody else in that locker room who really was looking at him and it was like, I wish I had courage to do that. There's a thing about quitting, right? Quitting is a little bit underrated right now. We don't want to have a world out here where we at you telling the babies that is okay to quit because you know, they don't really have an ability to discern what we mean by somebody's things. We gotta tell them that you finish the job that you start and I do by large agree with the idea that you gotta finish the job and use that you start. But I also recognize that sometimes you gotta look at the job that you started and be like, this is not a job that I want anymore. This is not going to be good for me, and it takes some for you to just decide that you're gonna walk away. Right? It takes them for you to just be like, Nope, I'm good. It's not what you signed up for anymore. Yeah, but I, I will know this though. Did he take all his stuff out when he left that I don't know if they bought this stuff in send it because I feel like if they boxed this stuff to send it, none of the good stuff is coming back with him. You know what I mean? Like that's not gonna happen. Tasty snacks. He keeps in his locker nominee. I didn't see those just passed up stuff that we saw here. Somebody who was already ADL. I, nobody's nobody's gonna make sure that your landing is solved. When you make that decision on those dudes, right? But this is this how bad it is to play for them? Did you see gave that apparently Shawn McCoy has broken ribs. I did and use plan through it. I wouldn't. Would you? Well, I mean to your point before about needing to be all in again, that's while these guys are mad because the all convince themselves of buying into the team and being all in and being a hundred percent, you know, in putting it all out there on the field, no matter what. So that's exactly what looks on McCoy's doing. And that's exactly would vantera Davis elected. He did not want to do more, but I as you would you be out your flames grows broke. No man. Hell no, no, no, no, no. Let's think about what we gotta go here, like at our company, right? If the ratings drop to like forty thousand people watching to give and show at find out, I wouldn't come here this building heads by say, found his head as best as I come here, this Bill head as best as we had three million views. But like there is a level of which I'm like, oh, man, I doing this. That's it in my level would be broken ribs. I just wanna go and he'll I think it's better for the team if we he, if if y'all need to win then down to come out here to win, but they don't need the Shaw McCoy to win. They need captain America to win. They need superman win. They need the human torch to win. They need all kinds of things to win that just aren't. There are going to happen like, you know what? I think buffalo could do win, put twelve men on the field. You think there's any way possible maybe that you can sneak a twelve man on the field because I feel like the mistake that people make when they try to twelve men on the field is they always got the twelve minutes. Feel right away would if you waited a little bit, let the play develop a little bit and then you like through another deep safety out there and he's just back there to intercept to pay you think anybody would notice until it was too late because I don't think they would have this. You know how sometimes basketball or sometimes in soccer you, you know, they'll kick a ball or the, they'll make a pass and you're like doing the ref right in the back of the head because he's just all been the action right one day. They just work something out with the ref so that he's, you know, waiting back there in the secondary, and he just so happens to, you know, in crossing road. Oops, I'm right in the middle there. Good question. I, I don't know what it is exactly the supposed to do because when I look at McCoy in those broken ribs, you're playing behind a team with an awful offense of line on top of that. And I think that is a bit of a unique thing to football that we don't really see in other places, which is a whole lot of people's jobs are dependent on the offensive line's ability to block right. If the offense of line can block, but the quarterback can't throw. It doesn't hurt the offense. Lineman at the quarterback has to drop back, forget about whether he's good or not. And he offense of line is bed. Like I gotta take that pain. I gotta take those blows if I'm McCoy and I'm getting the ball and of ain't no holes. I'm the one that's gotta take those blows that's different than anything else that I can point to. No, I'm not going back here with no broken ribs, especially not as long as that dues been playing. He got miles, Jack, that whole good. I'm good because the bills are bad. They are so bad. That's what they got. I wanna know this to like vantera Davis's homeboys that are in the league. I wonder what they think as brother for example, Vernon, Davis. I wonder what Vernon Davis things about this because think about football players is man. They go out there and play through injuries. We don't really even have half the idea of what they play through of what they go through. We don't. I think Dan Levitan he did interview. We Jason Taylor wants about Jason Taylor. Haven't Africa what the injury was, but he's standing up the night before the game like IV or something like that as a catheter involve or something else. And it's like legit life-threatening stuff. And these dues conditioned to believe that nothing is more important than the gay like that gain has right around the corner. Nothing is more important than that. I got nothing in my life like that at all at all. Like I think about the things I willing to call out sick for. It's well before broken ribs guys, it's well before broken ribs, and nobody is going to hit me. Tell me we're broke ribs. It hurt, breathe and her to sneeze. Is that the only sport that it's like that in your opinion? Because I mean, if you think about the other like physically taxing sports in that way, like boxing, if a guy's not feeling right, they're not gonna fight. There's pushed the date back. Yeah, I am. Magin hockey would be a similar example, right? Because we hear about all the injuries they guys are willing to play through in hockey now I don't. I don't have as much first hand knowledge about hockey, so I don't wanna make any substance talking about this stuff because who bore you know, Haggos you say something you're right about hockey hockey guy going pop up, but with football, the problems this, if everybody had to be a hundred percent, nobody will play. If everybody had to be eighty percent, nobody would play. So this game requires people be willing to play through injuries is gang requires people be willing to take pain killers and shots in the middle of games and stuff like. That because that's just how this thing functions. They only got sixteen games. So the scarcity in that way makes you look real bad if you decide not to play because every game is so impactful. Like there's a total set of circumstances that makes this game totally different in terms of what people are willing to go through in order to just get to the end like the football argument on injuries. It isn't. I guess this applies somewhat another sports for really applies in football is it's about whether or not this injury can be worse. Right? So I remember when Dennis Dixon played at Argun two thousand seven, we use the Heisman firm runner. Dennis Dixon played for weeks on a tornado hail. His last game was against Arabs ONA. Yes, just go to twenty five yard touchdown, untouched with tornadoes hail, but it wasn't like all the way torn. He could still do a few things, but it wasn't all the way torn. So by that metric it couldn't get worse. And so they basically played him until. Lizzani, Gabe all the way out. Not a matter they let's hold up and maybe get this ready to get you to league. No, no, no, no, no. He ran that bad boy all the way to the pop because that's the theory, and that's how it works in football. Now they feel like, oh, man just might get worse. Let's go ahead and stop it now so that we can get you back later. But if they're like, oh, it can't get worse. It can't get worse and you feel like you can play are right? They come on out here. Why? Missa game. If you don't have to, that's just the brutal nature of what they game is. And I can imagine for do what is like to wake up and be like, oh, this is crazy wants to a former football player. And if they always said about football players like many different man like the mentality and everything else is totally different and he played football for so long. You never really thought about it. Then he had a little bit of detachment from and he was like, yeah, this is crazy. Like I wonder how many of these guys like when it comes to having kids and stuff like that is going to help point out to them like, oh man, what we were doing was crazy in the middle of a game. Vantera Davis was like, yo, this is crazy. And so he did something that seemed even crazier do a lot of people. He quit. This kind of has an interesting parallel to the Levy on bell situation. Does it not who doesn't want to go out there and put his body on the line because he's not getting paid, right. Yeah. What I think people miss on the levian Bill thing is every time you see somebody say, oh, man, levian Bill give it up another eight hundred fifty thousand dollars by playing. He's also getting hit right like like is that as though they're just gifting him this eight hundred fifty thousand dollars trade to be made and he's made the decision. Eight hundred fifty thousand dollars a game is not worth it. Now he's going to have to show up at some point to get the year done so we can go somewhere else, but he's decided that's not worth it for him. So why are you worried about like the money they sacrifice really? Oh, man is silly given up all this money. The money is part of a cost benefit analysis. The money is the plus. He's also ignoring the minus what none of us are able to do is to quantify what the minus part should be worth to him or be worth to anybody else. Ozzy there. Other people who have clearly made the decision. That the minus part for them is only worth like forty thousand dollars a week, right? Like for some of them they're down, they're like, okay, forty thousand dollars a week. We'll take that pay in the minus, whatever. They'll go ahead and do that. Amen. He's not one of those people and I just don't feel like those of us who sit in chairs ever have the right to look at somebody who uses his own body in order to make money and takes all these blows and dings it incurs all these injuries. None of us get to tell them how much they should be willing to get paid to do a job that none of us would do. I'll be back into midst talk about Josh Gordon, but first Banjul wants you to know football season is finally underway, and if you play fantasy football, the odds are already hate you team and you wish that you could draft. Again fan duel, you can draft a new team every week plus fan dulas never been more fun or easier to play. You're not a fancy expert and fan daughters. Clearly the place to play fan Dula something for everyone, and there are more ways to win than ever before van deal also has a tool called guru to help you pick your lineups so you can make smarter picks feel more confident going into game day. 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We don't hear nothing about that. No, Josh Gordon codes. Sue dudes. Thanks, fun. Bomani on this one. Yeah. Thank thanks for letting me know they have black people on the team. How would I have ever considered such notion right idiots? Anyway, they went and they guy Josh gore. They didn't sign him the trader form. They gave up a fifth round pick for and if he does not play ten games than the Browns, get back. A seventh round pick. I believe it says a great deal about how talented jazz Gordon is the idea that somebody would be willing. To trade for do that. The Browns held onto in every way before they simply decided that they had had enough. Now, Josh Gordon is twenty seven years old. Let's run through his twenty thirteen season was right because it's twenty thirteen seasons quietly, one of the greatest seasons of all time. He led the league in receptions in twenty thirteen receiving yards not in receptions, and that was recorded bags. Like I want to say Brian Hoyer in Jason Campbell, like he was not out there playing with our best in our brightest. Any lead league and receiving yards. Like I've thought about Steve Smith before Steve Smith in two thousand eight led the league receiving yards per game while playing on the team that had the fewest pacits in the league that year like that is all kinds of incredible to be able to pull off, right. No question about it. That is all kinds of incredible to be able to pull up. Josh Gordon basically did the same type of thing. And by the way, led the league in receiving yards with those. Quarterbacks after missing two games due to suspension. That's good enough to where he hasn't done a damn thing worth discussing since twenty thirteen on the field. And somebody was still willing to give something up in order to get him and twenty thirteen gate at flawed. James crushed numbers force that dude had thirty receptions of twenty or more yards. He hit a thousand yards that year just on receptions over twenty yards. That's the type of deep threat. Yes, that like ninety percent of the league is looking for. Yep. And to be fair, he came back last year and after he came back last year, he averaged eighteen point six yards per reception that twenty thirteen season. He averaged eighteen point nine yards per reception. All right and says twenty thirteen here the guys that he is caught passes from Brian hor, Johnny Manziel to Sean Kaiser edge. Rod Taylor. Yeah, we're dry Tana's looking at them like y'all. I'm a hall of Famer compared to y'all. That's what he is is the patriots made the decision to make that trait? Now, what one thing I love about the patriots is at least in terms of observing them, I'll think people have any handle what it tastes with Bill Belichick signed somebody. Now what seemed clear to me is only thing better, check size on buys if you think you can play that's about it. Like if you can play the give you chance, if you get to be too much trouble, they'll go ahead and get you up the pink. But if you can play, he'll go ahead and bring them in there. I think I saw somebody say something to the effect of anything Bill Belichick was gonna, bring him mixed Bill. Belichick didn't want that. Distraction must be crazy. Bill Belichick distracted yet. Bill Belichick focuses hill. You know, heart it is a strike Bill Belichick what he's doing? No, no, judge. Maybe he might strike me as some point, but do show up to work, then it's going to be fine. And I can imagine this, did you see gave what it actually was that Josh Gordon was doing when he pulled the hamstring? Oh yeah. Who's a photo shoot, but I didn't exactly see what the photos were of. Well, it was a, it was a promo shoot for some line of clothing or something that he has, but what he was doing during the shoot was basically working out right? Like it wasn't like he was in there doing something totally crazy. He was running sprints and stuff like that. And while doing that, he pulled his ham straight. So you call Bill Bella. If you've Browns browser like a man, we got this do for trade and they're like, look, you gotta level with us mad. Well, what was the deal with that hamstring? Well, it was a Friday night and he was doing a promotional shoot. We'll look promotional, shoot. I don't know, but he was out there running sprints, but budgets like you're telling me this guy run sprints on Friday nights, bring him in. We, we need to work ethic. We can get him to stretch before. Yeah, yeah, we'd love that. Bring him down. Thanks. So now he's there and looked patriots receiver problems. I mean, there's no other way to put that. You can talk about elements coming back in a couple of weeks and that's fine. But element Etem is running over the middle a lot. The reason we know Julian elements name in the way that we do is because he plays for the patriots. If he plays with somebody else, we're not talking about him in that same way. We're not like he's not a great player. He's not a bad player certainly is a good player, but he is not a great player. What he is dude, who plays a lot of nationally televised broadcast this used to happen. I felt like a lot in college basketball with Duke Carolina, all those big time schools. There's always one player that is considered to be like the defensive stopper and that guy might be good at defense or that guy might just be do that. You find something to say about because they're on TV all the time. Right. That's what I feel Julienne atelier was he's just a player that you ultimately become familiar with and then you talk about him as a win. You know you talk about them a lot into makes you overrate a little bit. What that player actually is. That's what element is Pacers need. Somebody that can stretch to feel now a couple years ago, Chris HOGAN, who was very athletic, led the league in yards per reception. But that was an anomaly looking at the larger sample of his work that he had never quite been that guy, Josh Gordon, if nothing else is crazy fast. Like I've seen people raise the question about whether or not he can learn the offense, dude, patriots, Cordeiro, Patterson. And the question about Cordell Patterson at other stops was whether or not he can learn the offense and plays stuff. Apparently Bella check found a place for him to go with and it was like, no, no, no, you can learn enough. If all Josh Gordon does is go long. He serves a purpose because it's going to be a while of him going long before you stop double covering him. So that winds up helping everybody else. I see this with the patriots. They got nothing to lose, especially now with them giving up draft picks because I don't know if you've been paying attention but Bella shape because. Draft picks loose like it ain't nothing. I give it a trial didn't work. All right. You're outta here like fifth round pick Bella Changle. Could a third round pick and training camp like he's, he's not really tripping on that and in quietly, maybe just maybe not that good at drafting players, but they'll be fine. They worried about that part. Now they got Josh Gordon in their gave way to see what the reaction's going to be from all kinds of people. Josh Gordon gets out here bawling like all the people who are sympathetic to him because they think all he was doing was smoking weed in the league was treating them badly. Are they still going to be on team with him? Because he plays with the patriots. No, there's the app carries the sort of thing. I am somewhat curious if that's going to be the way that they go. Buddy also noticed this too. How you think this go wind up going if if he gets there and he does not play, will the locals go to deal with that one? Not not good. I don't think it's going to go. Well, now there's another level though Josh that I think is important to know and that kind of touched on it their second ago. But I've ever really think this is important. Just Gordon's a drug addict. I don't say that pejoratively. I don't say that like to knock him, but he's a drug addict. And the reason that I find an important point out that he is a drug addict is that I think he became a cost lip for a lot of people with regards to like the Drik Coenen NFL prohibition on marijuana. And I think the NFL's prohibition on marijuana is not just silly, but also counterproductive and counterintuitive, but that doesn't really apply to Josh, Josh. It's been pretty straight up since he's come back about where his problems drugs and it ain't we'd right like the weed isn't the one. That's the problem. The codeine codeine. That was the problem, alcohol. That was a problem. Those are issues like you are doing him a disservice if you lock in on this idea. Well, they're suspended. For smoking weed? No, no, no, no, no, no. He's got bigger problems than that. When gave he said he'd never played a game in the NFL where he wasn't drunk or hi. Yeah, I think a lot of the people that want to kind of paint him as the weed smoker would like to think that someone cannot be successful if that's what they're up to. Yeah, you know, in their private, life's right, but they need to understand though that he is a legitimate drug addict. And I think there's a measure sympathy that should be afforded to a drug at it hundred percent, but he's a drug addict and drug addicts are not reliable, right? Like I think there's a level of not sympathy, but a level of understanding, and we would all like for people to show drug addicts. Until we got to deal with the actual drug addict, right? Like it's all the games. The drug addict steals from you right eighty then like, oh man, gotta have certain measure patients in really need that hundred dollars anyway. Right. Show of your TV ain't dear. I got a partner tight about this. Got a partner city, let do live with them. He thought to do smoker rocks, but he went show spoke rocks than you came home one day and dude the TV was gone, but the dude was there. Yeah, TV was gone. The do was there in offered no explanation. His response was not to put his arm around him and say, look, man, I know you go through things now you gotta get about crib. That's it. You got to go at that point. And that point may come for the patriots, right? Like they may ultimately do what the Browns did. The browse looked up and just said, look for us. This is no longer worth the trouble and then move on. And I hope that that does not happen with the patriots, but I also hope that the patriots have infrastructure in place for them to understand this is maybe just maybe what is going to come to with him that they're dealing with somebody who has some real problems to deal with and they're going to need to give them some help with it, say what you want about Brown's, but I feel like Browns demonstrated an absolute willingness to work with Josh onto things that weren't going well for him. Right. I think that they demonstrated that they were absolutely one hundred percent down to work through his problems with him when he came back to. Camp and he said, look, man, it's too much I can't handle right now. They let them go back to the house when he came back late in camp, they let them play in the first game. I think that they have shown that they were willing and that they were patient. And then even then they ran out of patients in the end and that team needs him more than the patriots do. And they just decided they couldn't do it anymore. And so if they're going to get to a place where they decide that they can't do it anymore, the patriots may wind up in the same place where they decide that they can't do it anymore. And if that happens me personally, I got no judgment on Josh for that. I got no judgment on the patriots for that because I do feel like, Amen. This do doesn't want it to be this way any more than I do this do want to be strung out on dope, who wants who wants to feel so dependent on something else in their way. Nobody wants to be in the place. The Josh Gordon has been in. Nobody does. So I hope it works for him. I also admit. I hope it works for him for the same reason. I think that a lot of people in media wanted to work for him, which is if you've ever talked to him, you ru four. We interviewed him a couple of times on highly questionable a couple years ago, and I just found myself. I don't know if charmed is the right word, but you some people, you get a good fit about the spirit that come from. Right? Like some people have any say in all the right things about how you trying to get past what it was and improve on this, and then whatever it is like being around him or just talking to him in that way, made me want the best for him. Like I'm kind of at that age now where I'm watching guys when they play football and like I'm thirty eight like view these cats almost like low brothers in a lot of way, not I'm closer them like their brothers, but like I think of them in the ways that I would think if I had a younger brother and they behaved of the way my older brother, thirteen years older than me or in the way the my older brother would behave, where regards to me in the way that he would me. And that's the way I look at a lot of these cats and I get nothing out to be an angry for him for being strung out on dope. I don't have the value judgment associate. With drugs and things like that, that other people have. I just don't, you know. So I'll what him to win. I want him to do well because there is no reason for me to not want him to do well. And by the way, every drug addict who does well, that's one less drug, adequate my steal, your TV root for your TV if nothing else, right. Just just root for your TV if that's the thing that you need. Right. So let's see how it goes. Let's see. Like ultimately what happens, but please, I don't care what assumption you thought was go, happy man becoming are here. Some I told you, so if it doesn't work don't. And reason I say that is that is don't know what does going to benefit anybody like it's a very easy thing to do, and everybody likes to be right, but as much as you like to be right, Josh Gordon probably disliked being a drug addict, just that much. All right guys, NFL season lodge, teams own to this is the nature of it now, and I'm going to go through this league until you which if you guys at, oh, into should be the most of worried, oh, by the way. Just so you know, Florida, James with data nineteen ninety bleed into playoffs expanded to the Addy wildcard teams. Twenty eight of the two hundred thirty one teens have started to have made the playoffs. That's it. That's it. All right, Nozoe to out here. Buffalo, we don't laugh at buffalo so much. I don't even know we need to keep doing it gave we consider Pittsburgh to be, oh, and two because I feel like time the Browns makes you into. Yeah. Yeah, we didn't talk about the the whole tie thing just yet, but there's really the thing about the tying here for these teams is that they get absolutely nothing out of it because everything is dependent on wins and losses. Whereas like other leagues where you have ties like hockey or like in soccer, you get a point for that, yes or no. Did you know this about the way the NFL does ties gave a tie? It's considered to be half a win. I did not know that. Yeah, crazy. The new everyday? Yeah. They consider a tie to be half a win when it gets to the end. I guess they'll figure out exactly how to do it. But my thing with Pittsburgh on this is they, they seem to have a chemistry disaster going on their top to bottom, like everything is out of hand. I've never been one of these guys. They're buys into this idea of Mike Tomlin as cheerleader and data died. He can't keep the team together. I mean, he's been there for a long time, but the team by and large hail together. It looked shaky now though right now. Of course, a lot of this gets fixed if they just win a couple of games, they looked bad on defense, but I'm not sure there's anything particularly embarrassing at this point to lose into the chiefs, not as good as the chiefs look. So I mean there things a little shaky there. By the same token. I don't know if I consider the Browns. It'd be, oh, in two because for them feels like a win the Texans, oh, into over there. And look, I've said this before, I'm gonna say this again. I'm not sold on the show Watson yet. Not that I think he's bad or that they every problem at quarterback necessarily, but I don't know if they necessarily have guy they can lean on and I absolutely no, they don't have a guy with a strong or that. I know for fact, now they had a receiver who has demonstrated an ability to catch passes from literally anybody with an are. That's what Hopkins business hobby say. We talk about Josh Gordon that year. Occasional balls modem scrubs Hopkins is basically done that his entire career, but also this is make or break for O'Brien and. On top of it, being maker break for O'Brien. JJ watt might be done. Like it's fair to ask the question whether or not JJ watt is as dominating pass rusher in something like his last nine games. I wanna say JJ watt has a sec. A single sec year. Okay, that's not good. So we got them in the Owen to wagon. About the raiders game. Did you see? We are Jon Gruden said they gotta figure out a way to get some pressure on the quarterback. I think my favorite part about all of that was just the camera kind of angle on him at the end of the broadcast where he was doing the Chucky mug and it was just slowly zooming in on him. Like, I don't know if you're, are you a curb your enthusiasm guy? Not. Okay. So at the end of this show, is Larry David show a lot of times like ends in some like awkward moment. Some funny moment and the person's making a face like that. And then just the camera's zooms in on the north face while they're playing some sort of like carnival music in the background, and it was just one of those moments to me. I was like, the joke is on you Gruden? Yes. Did you see the video that the athletic Potter posted? I did Checky doll- dollars audit of way that was so strange by the way. Doing. That it just ended. Right. Like the idea that he had this in-draughts waiting for this game to co, write ages, wash those. Like what in the world. It's a second registered because I've forgotten about the whole Chucky thing because talk about antiquated reference. But I was like, oh my God. What in the world are you doing? But they're bad thing that should worry the raiders is you can talk all you want to me about Derek Carr in his completion percentage in that game. And his completion percentage in that game was of course very high. But it's still seemed to be classic, Derek, Carr. Bercy you get the Dink then you get the dunk, right? Lots of. Twenty nine for thirty two, but for only two hundred eight yards. Like that's all you had a running game that did not produce a rush of longer than eleven yards. This is these are things I believe to be concerned about if you're the raiders like this just does not look like a good team in Jon Gruden isn't exactly the guy that's built to deal with a team that maybe just maybe isn't that good and they're the worst kind of not good. They're not good, and they're old. Like when you got a young team and they're not good, at least you feel like you're build for the future. Jon Gruden has the oldest team in the NFL since I wanna say the two thousand four Tampa Bay Buccaneers gave you want to coach that team Chucky. That would be correct. There's nothing to look forward to when it comes to that. And of course him try to tell that they may need to call ups more blitzes so they could get a pass rush or or or maybe keep that minutes that we saw play into bears Seahawks game, but some guys don't enjoy having menaces on their defense. Like I tell you this, if Jon Gruden had to play against Khalil Mack more. I think a lot more often than he did having a play for women to the NFC. Oh, into giants. And it's all their fault. Saquon Barkley you may want to be the best running back your generation. It is entirely possible. Amber so good. You could be as long as you live met in is your quarterback. We had every indication here that they needed to go get another quarterback. They did not go get another quarterback so-far through two games. They have two offensive touchdowns. Now they went in the second one by the way was late Neg aim in Dallas after that thing had been decided the first one was that big play saquon Barkley hair for like sixty eight yards in week one. But think about this James again to research. In the first two games last year, the giant scored thirteen points this year. They scored twenty eight. So improvement last year, what offense touchdown, the first two games this year to improvement. This year three point seven yards per rush last year, three point, two yards per rush improvement. This year thirty seven point six QBR last year, twenty five point. Eight improvement like they are improving to not being good like where they are improving to look man. They need a new quarterback. They have not had, honestly, I don't think that the giants have headed truly elite quarterback my whole life thirty eight years old like Phil Simms at Super Bowl, and he was really good. But Phil Simms wouldn't like in elite quarterback. None of the guys since Phil Simms, I don't think quantify is being elite quarterbacks, and this is the fifteenth year lamented, and they've got two Super Bowls, but he was not an elite quarterback. In fact, I would argue that ally manning is a testament to the idea that maybe people over investing quarterbacks because you can win a Super Bowl where ally manning as your quarterback. The problem now is this version of ally manning, I don't know what you can win with him, but they made the decision to go ahead and ride that thing out. They. Folded last year when they benched him, which they probably should have done. And then everybody got so offended and they brought him back and then in the name of airlines because he'd been such good soldier or whatever they decided sure. We'll give you another year with his win now roster, but the roster came win now because ally manning is the quarterback like they and got a running back because they wanted to win now with alive man, and you can't win now with he lamented, he's not good enough for you to win. Now they may deco the lions are into with their with their head coach defense coordinator of a bad defense last year. And now he's their head coach. They lost that game to the forty Niners yesterday. Magic staffer, by the way, did not look good, absolutely. Did not look good. And I still don't have a great answer for you and how good I mean, and Matthew Stafford is like, I think he can be very good always said though to be to be fair to him. They've done nothing to give him a running game. They've done nothing at all to give him a running game, but as wide open do that, he was just missing just flat out missing and about a way if the forty Niners lost that game, they would be over here on Owen to program, and then we could discuss, maybe you guys put that Carter front of the horse on Jimmy Garoppolo. Everybody mama about what a great quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo is not bre lean seeing that is possibly may ultimately become great, but we have not seen that. And then we got two more teams in the NFC west right. One is the cardinals who might be the Buffalo Bills west. Right? Except they're not putting Josh Rosen in the gay, like somehow they made the call? No, no, not yet. Not yet. We're still gonna ride out Sam. Bradford Sam, Bradford is awful. These first two games. Brevard who was weighing retirement last season because of injuries. He looks tired to me. That's probably the best way to put it. He, you know, he looks like he looks like a retired person which is to say he is competing the level I would expect someone sixty five years old to compete. That is what he looks like. And I don't even know nothing else about that team, but yet he looks bad and then the sea hawks gave. I think the Seahawks are in real trouble. Gosh. Yeah. I mean to see the script flipped on them last night and getting beat up by the bears, which is exactly what they used to do to teams. I'm like, man, and they're turning a page here. Do you know how many players on that defense played on the Super Bowl champion team? I guess that you could count on one hand you of on one finger boy and do training camp. Percent. Earl is the only one like the passing numbers. They gave up three hundred twenty nine yards case keenum in week. One think about this. They intercept case keenum three times in week one, and they lost three times in week one and they lost. Let's think about yesterday's gave. They intercepted Trubisky twice and they still lost like these are things for team built the way that they have been built. Historically, they're supposed to be better than that if those sorts of things happen. But Russell Wilson's gonna be out here again, sex six times ain't got a chance they had none like this is what what the Seahawks had when they were on run was a lot of really good players who were the same age, right? Like Richard Sherman. Russell Wilson night? Exactly the same, but right in the same place Cam chancellor, Earl, Thomas was like a year older than them. Bobby Wagner in that same zone, but they had a lot of really good players who are around the same age, reached their peaks at the same time. And now those are gone like now is the time for the flip up and what they're going to find is whether or not they have a quarterback that is good enough to carry them in spite of what goes on round him. Guess what they don't really make quarterbacks like that. This doesn't mean the Russell Wilson is not good or maybe not as good as you thought he would, but he ain't gonna be able to carry a mess. They have right here. Benjamin Albright doodo works out of Denver said he would not before the year. He was like, I would not be surprised if Seattle got the number one overall pick after two games. I wouldn't be surprised either. Will be back in two minutes if you have in heard, but I, you know what's not smart job sites that overwhelm you would tons of the wrong resume. No, it is smart. ZipRecruiter dot com. Slash Bomani unlike other job sites, ZipRecruiter doesn't wait for candidates to find you. ZipRecruiter finds them for you is powerful. 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My latest story is about whether technology and how it informs people's decision to evacuate or to stay. When a hurricane is approaching last week as hurricane Florence was bearing down on the North Carolina coast, the Weather Channel that set it to make that decision a bit easier for some people by rolling out their latest tool. It's called immersive, mixed reality technology. And essentially it's a combination of green screen graphics, video games, and real time predictive data from the National Hurricane Center, the result are videos that allow whether channel anchors to show what it would be like to experience certain storm conditions. In this case of storm surge, you may have seen one of these videos in the last few days on social media. Because they went viral. They show news anchors interacting with storm surge at three feet six feet, and then nine feet. The anchors are standing in a virtual neighborhood. So you get to see what it looks like when this massive wall of water washes over somebody's home, the result according to many people is that it's utterly terrifying. This was the third video that the Weather Channel has produced in recent months using this kind of immersive technology, their previous two videos covered lightning and what it's like to experience the tornado firsthand. There was the time not so long ago when the Weather Channel was more or less background noise in the lobby of your doctor's office. But that could be changing the channels producers say that by two thousand twenty, they want eighty percent of their programming to include immersive, mixed reality technology. That means the weather broadcast of the very near future are gonna. Look a lot more lick terrifying video game than some random guy standing out there in the rain, kind of getting beat up by hurricane. I gotta say, bed south gotta, fun and exhilarating didn't quite know how to feel about it. When I saw the video of it on social media was like, that's. Kind of cool. Yeah. So the Weather Channel has a problem that they became kind of antiquated in the air of apps. Like it wasn't that long ago. The Weather Channel was on more cable dials or more cable sets than any other channel because it was the one thing that everybody had an argument for needing, like I remember being a kid and before you make Roach, if you get up and you turn it on the Weather Channel as not the game anymore, right? You just go to the phone and the company has moved a lot of their emphasis over to doing that kind of stuff. And also note that they had tried like they tried to become the Weather Channel like in the way that like the travel channel, they wanted to give you experiences. So they're doing documentaries on like weather, catastrophes and stuff like that. But hey, man, if you can give me like some legitimate science fiction thriller stuff here for it, I'll give it a check. The interesting part that I found about it was just kind of how it serving as a warning to people in those communities where it's like, no, you to get out. Yeah, you're not going to be able to, you know, hold this one out. You're going to be under like nine feet of water, right at the problem. Always is this just ain't as easy to get out as people wanted to be on a percent. Right. Which was the story with Katrina, right? Yup. Yup. They were Katrina, was they made it through the storm. Then the levees broke Indian story number two of the day comes from science. Hi, my name is Lauren gresh. I am the science reporter for the verge. So a couple of weeks ago, NASA in Russia's state space corporation Cosmo's notice that pressurized air was leaking from the international space station is very small leak. So they didn't even notify the crew who were sleeping at the time. But the next day, the crew will go up and found the leak, which was coming from a small hole in one of the visiting soya's capsules. Those are the Russian space craft that the astronauts take to get tuned from the station at first rose Cosmo's thought it might have been caused by a small meteorite that hits the Soyuz, but after looking at it more closely now suspect it was made by a drill of some kind and the head of risk Cozma said they were considering all scenarios for how it got there. Perhaps it was made by some worker on the ground or maybe it was made in space. Well, since then that theory of astronaut sabotage has spread like wildfire in Russian media. One. Paper cited sources from roscosmos that claim. They're considering the possibility that NASA astronaut drilled a hole to force an evacuation earth for sick crew member. And then NASA basically had to put out a statement to squash. All of those rumors Russia continues investigate though, and we still don't know where the whole came from. All I'm saying is this on sandwich coming from on that, but visit league in space station, wake me up. Let's fix this right now. Right? I'll know what I need to electrical tape around nowhere. No duct Tate. We still don't know where the leak came from. Yeah. What how does that work? No, no, we need air buddy. We need air. I do love the, maybe it was NASA. How what somebody just get out of this space out of space ship, come over, drill hole, Joe Becky in a away like dry by sorts. Someone leave the window open and I get a warm inside the space station. Notice that I am not interested in going to space. All all go into space is best case scenario. I've make it back. So when you learn musk offers you a ticket on SpaceX first trip to the moon because we've been so kind to him on the podcast, you're not going to accept it hail Noma. I'm not doing that. Magin. You go up there. We Eli musk, hot box a little space station. You find out it's leak in it. I, I'm, I was thinking about aliens man. I mean they're like, oh, you know. So in might have drilled a hole. So in money drilled a hole, you think you would have heard that. Right? What kind of drill you have their noise and space? Yeah, I mean exactly anything. Any movie you see about space? It is dead silent up there? Yes, never heard of a quiet drill. They May Day yet. All right. This last story is like on a whole 'nother level. I wanted to give it a like a little bit of back story here because the the piece that we're having on is is just the next level of this story. So cat Williams was on v. one of threes, Franken, Wanda in the morning show last week and he just decided to go in on on comedian, Tiffany haddish basically trying to pull receipts on her saying that she's not really that funny and she's never written anything. And she's been in all these movies where people during the writing for her. And then this happened, this is writing Danielle frequently cover pop culture, for essence, dot com. Comedian cat Williams that by Atlanta radio station, be one of three on Friday appearing of Franken, Wanda in the morning where he got into a comedic sparring match with komo's, Wanda Smith, they got a little too personal. Now, police are investigating Williams's claim that Smith's husband pulled a gun on him at a comedy club over the weekend according to. Fax five in Atlanta police report details that Williams and l'amour fellers Smith's husband got into a verbal altercation at the Atlantic comedy theater on Saturday night and off duty officer at the scenes that the conflict stemmed from Williams's earlier interview with Smith. During the interview Williams, not only may jokes about Smits cooking, but also criticized her appearance during the dispute. Saturday night. Williams claim. Sellers pulled out a gun and pointed it in his face Williams then fled to a nearby grocery store. Police intervened, however, sellers disputes the comedians claim. The Atlanta Journal constitution reports that sellers claims that after he tried to approach to comedian, he fled to a nearby food depot instead of sticking around sellers return to the Atlantic comedy theater. So also confirmed to police that he indeed had a gun who's possession. And as he was running, it fell to the ground. He refutes that he ever pointed it at Williams. Smith addressed the incident on the radio Monday morning, or she claims William started to argument that led to the conflict with her husband. According to Smith Williams, made a beeline overturn the parking lot of the comedy club and said, I told you him with me, we'll make you go viral. That's when her husband stepped in inspite of cracking jokes on booms, his hair, which seemed to cause them to go in on the radio host. Smith said, she's not a victim in spite of Saturday's tents encounter. Cat Williams has declined to press charges. Say it is man if she's not a victim, which is, you know. While your husband show up here with the heat that you need to tell him that I watched. I'll watch the video the whole twenty minutes of the video. I didn't think the Tiffany haddish stuff as nearly as harshest people made it out to be what he said was I give credit to people who write, I don't care what you say. I care about what you right, which is something I totally understand. Coming from the background of comedian says, other interesting stuff about how basically he bankrolls is, is whole operation in all these specialty does like one of them into million dollars putting out three hundred thousand himself to be the one to produce it like stuff that I found to be very, very interesting, but the stuff who wanted Smith Amen wanted Smith is a comedian, like we got us out talking about this is what is mitt is just they talk show host. No, no, no. Why does mitt there's a comedian who's been a comedian for a very long time and she got into it with a comedian and she lost a and by the way, got to slide on the fact that she repeatedly called cat Williams little mama, which is just a little bit homophobic. Right? Like that's all it is a cat drilled her on, but he's like non, don't go repeating. Joke she lost. That's all it was. She went out there. She tried to bring a, she lost in if out care Williams and I see her the next night I'm gonna tell. He was like, oh, I made you go viral offer that. That's how the game goes. Now. I don't know how this works because you know husbands, love did not here in fighting to prove they love. That's a big thing that they into. But I feel like if your wife is comedian, she got a standing handle it. I am. I am. I tripping on that one because I get. I get the idea of you stand by your woman, you defend her. But at the same time that's grown up, that is an adult. She just had to hold that. Yeah, man. There's got to be something more to this too. There's gonna be some history that the story is not picking up on that. I'm not picking up on this man. Like he said that he just head is good Whittam. Okay, right. You said he didn't point the gun. Okay. I saw his another comedian who said that the do pointed gun. I got no idea if he actually pointed the gun or whatever, you know, like I can't speak so much whether or not that actually happened, but man, that's a bad, bad, bad look for water Smith, like it is just a bad look. All she had to do was take dead l. she was on the radio yesterday. Explain how Ralph k Williams was in most people who watched it. We're not like damn cat Williams wrong. It was just like, yo, you caught this ale. Sometimes you just gotta hold it like that. That's the thing that you have to do it. If you got a whole. Hold it and also shed to care Williams who apparently the good came out, ran away. Abe pride, overrated dog. What I didn't get though is that they can't security also ran away and I'm like, muscled just go run away wit me. I shouldn't be paying him so much you for, sorry. Unfortunately, sir. Your job is to to disarm this guy, diffuse the situation I run you stay. Hey. You've reached the right voice mails, say whatever you want get creative with. But this is your place to talk back to show its top back. Thanks. Vaunted Davis stuff. We thought we'd put out for when you decided to quit in the middle of your job because that's exactly what vantera Davis did right millio shift and it. We might have gotten the most responses in the history of this. This segment, we got some pretty good ones. This first one was from JD in Missouri. Throw from. Leading start his job, especially out of college workshop started on pajamas a pain. The first wrist is John was you had clocked him within like a fad minute, went on to work a little bit early or anything. You couldn't even ended up somebody who stand workplace stuff, but those random village it again. So even let's break couldn't be a little bit early, could be own. It was like fan minutes on like family catch Lindo. So I'm doing his job and you call them people getting you say, just real, shiny work, but I got one last fall. One thing upon them like eighty six year old woman, she could barely even talk and manageable like on the phone listening. So that's kind of kind of grammar field gave her a pass. Hold on. Off. Three other that movie. Ooh, I like what. Okay. No, what? Right. I'm gonna take my lunch break though. On them break. I went to Mickey D's and never return. It was just like my eighty. My halftime show out. I'm not going to be calling eighty six year. Oh, one call Philip Nobile I think do somebody else? Can't. I can't do. I always wonder about the people who are Bill collectors and really get into it right? The person that's like Joe found my call it. Janet people for money that I had no legal basis to retrieve, especially because day in and day out, the different types of people you call are going to be from all walks of life, right? So like this guy decided he had had enough after having called like an eighty year old woman. Yes. I mean, who do you think you're going to call tomorrow? There's a bunch of old people who had have unpaid bills. Right. I tell you what's out Bill to call by daddy about some Bill. He decided he just wasn't gonna pay anymore on a cellphone. He couldn't get reception at the house. And so you know he called back the company and they were like, are you gotta pay out the contract? And you just said, whatever. Bill Clinton call, Dan, but look, I know you just doing your job, but I'm gonna tell you now Nebi giving you a damn. They never called again. There's a common theme to a lot of these stories as you can imagine, this next guy didn't give his name, but here he is. So on time I got a job as a dishwasher. Restaurants I've ever worked for in war of. Thing though. I'm kind of diesel, so I'm going to clean some. Oh, right. So it was my first day and I'd be over there just cleaning the hell out of and all these other dishes are just so eventually I realize one for me and I decided I was going to fail. Now. The thing was though before the shift started everybody in the kitchen got a plate of food. Really nice kind of stuff. I never got eat. But I hadn't seen to India. So now I wonder about the miss out on that. So I waited until my area. It was clear that play in a volt it and I never went back. Wow, you free lunch dot even mad the question. Some of these did you come get you last check? Yeah. All right. I wanna give shout out to a guy who almost made the cut very nearly made. The cut. He had said that he was planning on quitting his job because the next day was paid a and he was just going to show up to the job the next day, get his paycheck and leave, which is what he did. He went straight to the grocery store was getting groceries, boss called like yellow man where you at. He's like, I'm done this. It hangs up. The guy calls him back. It says menu serious and I'm like, that's it has to be done. This last one from Darren in Louisville. This is Darren Louisville. What else about nineteen years old? Two thousand three hundred thousand four. A good buddy works part time at a target and we are working early morning shift win a four AM. We would have the stock sharks in the morning. So one day we was one of the managers because they've been killing us making me buddy. I'm over us every day and we told them, you know, you gotta start delegating this stuff out of people. You've got us do every day. So the next day we come back and they got us. And so me and my buddy decided that we were unloading that stop Trump. We decided we were going to blow up every piece of merchandise that was on and we a bottle of maple syrup and the cat litter. And we started rolling every bit of through maple syrup cat litter. And we were just watching it off the back of the truck. And then after we got them, we told her, we said, Tom, we're done, we walk out the door. We went, got Donald's for breakfast, throws my buddies brother's house that around. And that was the only time ever quit in the middle of the shift. But it was a, whereas. That's about. Yes. What think about it? I heard nobody be regretful about that. They quit his job in the middle of the shift are not one person. I got a friend told me she worked there. Red lost the inlet shrimp. She quit in the middle of the Schiff couldn't do it too much. I've thought about this TV bad. I was lying Berkane watch what somebody quit in the middle of the shift that I had never seen nobody who had enough the way that woman had enough Jeeves goal, and then there's the bus driver. So I went to school in a little bitty town in Texas, and I don't know how relevant is is, but you'll get why point is out. It was a bus would number black kids, and we had his white woman driving the bus name is Susan, and that's tell you about life around that way. Gable we call it a missing, right? I'll remember what happened man, but misses. And I guess it got tired of breaking up fights and all of that stuff Mizzou's said, and I quote, I would rather cut grass and pig cut and dry. That damn bus boy never saw missiles. And again. Boy? Yes. Was she instructing y'all tickle all miss Susan? I don't know how it started. I just know she was missing. That was it. But yeah, soon as you rather cook grads, pick cut and dry that damn bus and to be honest. Same saying a large portion of these stories, either involved employment that fast food restaurant or ending up at a fast food restaurants after quitting. Yes, just the payroll there. It's like, all right. I quit my fast food restaurant within the first thing I did was go to Mickey D's. Yes, yes. They got flip flip the dynamic tables. Turn them over. I want to only give shot to another one that most nearly made the cut where this guy was working at a Chick-fil-A and he had a disagreement with his manager and was like f. this I'm out and on his way out. He grabbed a couple of chicken sandwiches. Got his check that a couple of weeks later, and they're four dollars taken out of it for the chicken sandwiches. Hey, giving the four is all good, but all right, ladies and gentlemen as much for joining us here on the right thing. Two times a week. Mamane Gabe eight. Handles everything behind the scenes. Thank you. Thanks to our sponsors fan duel ends. ZipRecruiter. Also thanks to Peter, highly innovations, bog the Washington Post. Check his story about new weather technology. Thanks to Lauren gresh, Saj reporter at the verge. 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9/17/18 - Pats loss + Matthews' foul + Davis retires

Skip and Shannon: Undisputed

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9/17/18 - Pats loss + Matthews' foul + Davis retires

"Welcome to the disputed podcast. I'm your host Jenny Taft. This podcast is a condensed version of today's episode of undisputed handpicked with the best segments and discussions, skip, Shannon. Let's go. Prevent yesterday in the rematch of last year's AFC title game. They got their first win in nine tries against Tom Brady. Thanks to four touchdown passes from Blake Bortles the patriots offense. Struggled scoring. Only three points in the first half and rob gronkowski was held to two catches for fifteen yards. Here's Brady on the loss. You have about dates a team. I mean, that's a recipe for losing and we certainly had a bad day and we gotta learn from having bad days and they're just things will magically happen. You gotta make them happen, and you know, we got a, you know, all of us have to have more urgency to do things right more often over the course of practice games, and then it's a matter of us going next execute. But it was us. I mean, first couple of jobs just us, and then you're behind then planning a situation where against a great team on the road that plays well when their head and they played really well. Landline in rule that fall ringing I dunno locks borough for that. It was a Jacksonville. Okay. So Shannon who deserves the most blame for that loss. Tom Brady doing this, do your job. On linemen. Autumn block, got a block somebody their passion. So receiver, anytime receive a cut up on the sideline. Almost say that passion, he's not being a diva. He's not being amounted. He's not being divisive. He's being passionate because we about Tom Brady. Now back to this wouldn't have to give credit to the Jacksonville Jaguars because here's where the patriots gonna have problem defensively, people saw Nick foles, almost four hundred yards and do what he did in the Super Bowl. So everybody goes into the game saying, we can throw on this team because they do not have any front, seven scale. They don't have one guy, they can say, go get home. So they have to try to schematic try to scheme you schematically. But when you scheme someone, you sacrifice the back in coach Bama check, really. We'd like to play cover to keep everything in front of you, but you can't do that. It'd be can't generate precious gift because you gotta take chances and it's Tom said, we got behind early the first three giant drive. We didn't do. Anything, and they spotted Jacksonville and Blake came out hot. And before I go any further, this, the Blake Bortles you saw yesterday in this defense, they're good enough to be the Representative in the Super Bowl, all you just jumped on new lagging and wagon jumps guy here. You're all the chargers on by Jaguar who that 'cause you're looking for somebody a symbol of a chance of Hombre. Oh, no. I'm just saying, so did you see what they did to Tom Brady yesterday. No, it's not your retort. Those or. Blew the Jacksonville defense held them to three hundred total yard. They can put pressure on you by just rushing for see everybody. When you look at the Jags they can Russia with four. They got collapsing got me Jackson up front so they can collapse the pocket. The got in God weight, and they got filed on the age and they got fast Tevin Smith. They got mild, Jack baking one in the middle backers got been. They got to corners. They might have to best tandem corners in the league. Okay now. And so if you look at the job, they did. They debate 'having berry church. You can go to church on whatever. But anyway, if you see the job Jalen Ramsey had grown, they singled him up man to man. Other than that, they doubled him skip. They ran a coverage. I'd never seen it before in my life, and I play fourteen years. I've covered this. They took the whole safety. They double gronk with the whole safety, and they told the middle backer which was mild, Jack, he ran to the deep middle of the field. I had never seen a covers like that. So you bring the whole safety down to double and. You take the mic backer and run him to where the vacated unbelievable miles used a new technique to its grabbing gronk. Hold on his own teaches here. Grunt grunt Brady was a little off yesterday. Blake Bortles was on top of his game yesterday and guys were making catch. You saw the one hand catch by coal. That's as good a catch. If you're going to see this year, I would agree guys and I may plays Gil, Blake Bortles. The thing that I like about them is that they stayed aggressive. Now they got a lead twenty three. Then all of a sudden they won't hand off hand down and lake. Blake, throw the ball on third down to end up getting nowhere. But as long as they allow Blake to stay aggressive, the patriots are gonna have problems because they can't can generate. And I thought, man. 'cause we watched him in the first game you like, where was this? Where was this defense in the Super Bowl that would generating this kind of pressure yesterday, I'm looking at them like they're worse than in the Super Bowl. They can generate nothing. And when you can't generate at skip, I don't care how bad the quarterback is. You let him sit back there in bothered, and they will pick you apart in. That's what Blake Bortles will able to. Do they didn't bother him bidding getting his face impression him and he was able to complete path to pass after pass the Jags would this Blake Bortles? They're good enough to be because they're gonna keep him in every game skill. That deep is good enough. They're going to be an every game. The question is, can Blake Bortles I'm not saying like this more touchdown, but can't he be some resemblance of up liver? Say Kenny, be a top ten top thirteen quarterback, anything like that? Oh, they're good enough to be the Representative. After twelve minutes. Gosh, iming you now being thought him line against that Saxon Ville defense in the NFL's hottest game in the last fifteen years since the game fifteen years ago outside in Arizona ninety seven degrees. It was yesterday in Jacksonville with high humidity, Tom Brady played plenty well enough to win that football game. And he did so without his three top receivers from the great comeback that he engineered in the AFC championship game against Jacksonville up in Foxborough last year. But Bill bell checks, vaunted defense, genius Bill Belichick. It gave up almost five hundred yards and thirty one points to a Blake Bortles offense without lynyrd for net and without its best receiver Markey's lease gone for the year. Are you serious? There's no for net and no Markey's Lee and the vaunted patriot d. Defense that you arrive in about all last week gave up almost five hundred yards and thirty one points and Blake Bortles was ten of fourteen on third down on third down and beat. So you know what Tom Brady was doing when he's over there, hidden his head, do your job. He was maybe yelling in Bella checks direction. Do your job Bill bell woes. I'm not out of line. I'm in line on this one because that looked at least as bad as the Super Bowl looked. It was seventy three seventy three. It was Blake folds all over again. Right? This is the guy you have little to no respect for Blake Bortles. He had a QBR scale zero to one hundred ninety five against Bill bell checks defense. How can you overcome that? The tongue, radio become everything. Just when I thought Brady was about to get them back in the game. What happens? It's another crossing Bill. Bell checks. Never seen crossing rotten his life about how about the d. west replay. It's just a simple cross the about, and he. Here's more civil crossing cross cross then turns it up. Can you tackling. Maybe maybe you could tackling. Nah. Can you catch a knack Dede Westbrook. I'm just sitting back. I'm watching my TV. I'm like, what just happened? I caught this. Oh. Oh, yeah. Tweeted at that point Bella chick question Mark. And then I tweeted smell a chick because that just smell to me what Dink's. Oh, it stinks. I thought he was trying to plas chick, no smell chicken hosting. But if you don't mind me asking Tom Brady's first three possession when they go three and out, it's the defense's hellish is good. Oh, no, no, no, Tom Brady. Got them all. I'm asking you to why. Tom Brady three. Why did not Tom Brady to put points on the board would his first three possessions? Well, he didn't in the AFC championship game either. They're down twenty to ten. The fourth, the difference it. What was the difference? Coach check stand up in the poor. Tom Brady couldn't do roic. I keep telling him Brady threw for one hundred and thirty eight in the fourth quarter. Go yesterday with twelve th what did you throwing? Hey, what did he throw yesterday? Healthy, what? What you have to help into both Gorda cay the are yesterday. He was in the seventies that's really play. Do them in my sleep. Just you go. That's not what you told me last week. Peaking. Bombs, I basically call Blake Bortles above he was okay. I'm not saying anything that anyone else has them said. They said this team is good enough to get to the Super Bowl if Blake Bortles compla- whale. Then he played well, we've seen seeing flashes of it where he plays like he competent quarterback, but we've also seen flashing where he thinks that up. So let's not pretend to all of a sudden I'm making on just reaching for things out of this guy to say about, Blake Bortles. Okay. So to be objective about this, the patriots did lose probably their best pass rusher, Trey flowers early, and they lost one of their safeties Patrick Chung later in the second half. So I'm gonna give you those two. But how about Eric grow? Remember Eric roll. The guy who placed one Malcolm Butler and the Super Bowl and Malcolm Butler played exactly zero defensive snaps into Super Bowl. I know you. So he was out there yesterday and every time I looked up, Eric Rowe was chasing another receiver skip, there's nothing Tortuga l- skip some of those. Some of those games that the kids that call me, it's give. There's nothing you can do about that. The touchdown. That was a great throwing catch. But I can tell you what I know what you're thinking. And when he took ROY is like. Give you take a roll out because he's getting towards, but you wouldn't take the guy that was getting towards in the Super Bowl and put Michael, but I found no skip, thank you, but here's the thing. You know what got coach checkups coach takes. You know what my defense is off. Maybe I was off in in the play calls off. They still had an opportunity. It was fourth in niche Bill going over every scenario thousand times if a guy jumps off side is less, you move just touching on something you move. If they, they all stay station, reach t reached. He reaches flag right, and nobody moved. I'm not saying that would have won the game, but would have given a better chance to give him an opportunity. So now all of a sudden they go to score is twenty four seventeen. Now we see a Blake Bortles can still make those same throws being up by because we saw the second half as the in the championship game and the patriots started their comeback. We saw all the some Blake Bortles. Lati- Rex. He he couldn't expand like you was when he had that big lead. So get. So even coach Bela checks, sometimes his training, his methods don't always get through in the most crucial because they don't normally make those kind of do not. So my bottom line takeaway from this game is I thought before the year that Tom Brady would again beat Saxon Ville in Foxborough in the AFC championship game. Now I'm just not sure he can overcome this shameful defense enough to keep the AFC championship game at home. I think Tom Brady just well might have to go back to Jacksonville to get to the Super Bowl in Atlanta pill. You skip teams believe they can throw on Nick Bowes, put up three seventy three in the Super Bowl. Blake Bortles just went for three seventy seven. So they're saying, look, you don't have a pass rush that can get home basically wants channel Jones in the last ten year. Last decade. The only guy that he had to consistently get home one on one with channel Joan, but you know, skip in order to get home, you have to give up edges and that's not what coach Bela check wants to. Do you look at Chris look at Chris loan? The way he rushes the. Path and Philly, as opposed to way he rushed to pass in New England this check. That's the dilemma, but it's hard for him to get out of that skill because he's had such great success doing it his way land down the man not giving big plays, but it's hard when you that quarterback sit back there and just Pat the ball like, okay, I won't you like like. Being being being bad thing. Are you still giving Bill Bill, check, seventy, five percents. I'm at seven percent. Okay. How about seventy five percent of the blame Brady could Emma. I three Dr. Tom Brady could put points on the board, please could have. Jail after all that still the most shocking thing that happened in the NFL? Yes, took place at halftime in buffalo with us. We'll tell you. The Cowboys got their first win of the season over the giants last night. Skip came in Yellen screaming, celebrating really happy to be here on this Monday. And now we have a new guest Dangelo hall is here a little bit move that match. Birthdays. Now he has nothing to say, I'm going to start with you the Angelo, where would you grade Dax performance last night. I mean, the point is to win the game, so they did win the game. So I gotta give him a c plus though when I look at this performance, those won the game with the plus. Go ahead when I look at his performance very similar to week once performance besides being sex, six times. So how many times six right? Nonetheless, last night turnovers, like dad said, it wasn't just him that accepted the challenge that team that, oh, nine rally behind him, and they protected him. That defense did to him where Carolina did today. And we want, you know, if you can't, if you can't protect the quarterback consistently, it's gonna make for rough season and knows numbers were sub par at best at best. Yes, he didn't turn the ball over, but those numbers were. So if you put if you put that performance against anybody else, when you're talking about winning the division, making it to the playoffs when play on beyond those numbers, just won't cut it period z. hitter very similar to, you know what your turn you go land. Share to say best for last, go, Jeannie. You read that. You read that. What degree did I give it? How would you great Dax performance? And you know what? They agree c, plus. You believe the play, the play of no player. That would you tell me all the love because he made the big throw. But after that throw to tape on often he was fourteen or twenty three for eighty seven yards. Now I get my pompoms out and start. Kick them up that what I'm supposed to do or a big sign the who'd you pick to win the giants. But hold on this this Jimmy. That was not the question. How would I grade that performance? So the giants. So she's thought he was going to lose anyone. It seems like you'd have to go a little higher than c plight Nolan, they throw intercepts. No, no. I didn't get rid of the ball. Oh, hold on give. So you won't. You want me to jump height head over heels. Do caught with look like I'm not your Coleman. Each out here fifteen to twenty five bucks sixty any out along the sixty four. So after that he had a ninety six yard. So if you take away that nine yard completion that he had the first gambling be real about it, he ran the ball accepted where they ran the RPO. They did a great job with zone. Read the question I have moving forward when you give when you get twenty eight twenty nine million, you guarantee eighty million. You still run as on region that we talk about that another day. We talked about it, but I gave him a c plus the measure question Rico, yoga, you low Rico gathered with he wide open on that say. So can you tell the people at home? Because they wouldn't be early? Tell me when it's my go at you could have the floor Rico gathers run the seven. I have to go. Now I have to go. Okay. I'm going to finish it as forty. Okay. I'll just pro. Okay. I give back and a minus because he went missed one throw all night to my man Rico who just put a scorcher on them in the secondary, and and he was suddenly wide open in the back of the end zone. And I call for this because that was a bad throw. He just missed at a Blitzer right in his face, but he just flat out missed him. The stadium, the roof would exploded off the top of that stadium. If Ricoh gathers had hall that in big holiday. If you hit him up high nece- six feet, six, you can on a different color jersey right now you're not giving high. I would too. Oh, let's let's do this QBR which takes into account all the everything. Quarterback does lay. Degree of difficulty. What's the down in the distance? He had a seventy eight on scale zero to one hundred last night. That's pretty great, especially against that New York Giants defense. And I'm going to remind both of you once again the great Blake Bortles went up to New York in the season opener. This is the same Blake Bortles who had a ninety five QBR against the great Bill Belichick yesterday the same. Blake Bortles who scored four touchdowns on New England yesterday scored one at New York scored one on this day. Okay, because it is really good. How did that like Bortles score through for a grand total of one hundred seventy six yards and did get picked off in that game and had a QBR of forty one against the giants because the giants are really good on defense. Okay. This was challenged accepted for Dak Prescott because the whole NFL world, including these two cowboy haters tuned in to watch him fall on his face and what did he have to work with? What is his degree of difficulty? He has no Travis Frederick at center. He has no left guard because Connor Williams should not be in the. Starting lineup, the rookie out of Texas, and he was often overmatched again last night and he has Dak Prescott no number one receiver because I'm not even sure he has a number two receiver because I don't think you guys think he has a number two. So is it hard against that defense to get anybody open the hall that I would call a number two, but that's a story call. Oh, all right. That's fine. We'll, you just made my point me. Thank you. So I think you're saying they don't even have a number three receiver and Zeki Elliott is not yet in game shape. He's got his little double chin and he looks little hefty working and he'll he'll have to play his way into shape because he played no downs, but you to Blake Bortles you're saying he had a better game Hegley. Yes. QBR says twice the game Stander. Help me out against the great Bill. Bill check ninety five artificiality more yards passing again, jazz defend sixteen more yards. Just what has what happened last night with the world watching and waiting for him to fall on his face mask. What had it right out of that? After Landon Collins called him out and said, put the game in his hands. We got a much better chance of winning that came out angry. But when he comes out angry, it is focused channeled angry and right away. He throws to somebody that the man across the hall of Famer Shannon Sharpe said, should not be at wide out because he can't play why table on all. I think he can play while, right. Thank you very, very much. I think what about that angle to to? I don't care. That was terrible. Was that not rocket that the quarterbacks got up. He threw it on a line with the safety couldn't get there and he had on a write in his hand. My great would a deadly been. I just know. Really good. It can't. We know what my office of line could not win the line of scrimmage very often last night, and I didn't think they protect Dag very well. But he played really smart lawless football where when he was in trouble, he just got rid of part of my problem. It wasn't even on day. It's on Jason geared into play called. He has to call different plays. You saw Scotland, you saw them expose. The passing game throwing that ball to Austin, it's nobody on the giants defense can run with him. Range from Brian because that's easy because a lot of people can lock him give table on credit because normally receive a wants to run the goal ball. He wants to outside relief, but tae-bong so quick, he ends average back out here. So now he has Jack rabbit trail position, and the safety took a horrible angle that the he's got a pig rocket. He out through the safety, did he did he not play called Anthony to? Can you tell him that ain't thirty four years old? I think I could have. Got you. Excuse me. Hey. It was a, it was a good ball. I just wanted to see more of that from that because that's what it's going to take to. That's what is going to take for the Cowboys to be successful because they're gonna face teams that put eight in the bucks just to stop Zeke every hands or downfield in that game was made by that quarterback number four and their little big plays. They're not gonna show up in the stats. Third down plays are peo- place zone. On yet life. I'm sitting over here. I was just pounding the Hagel saying, you have to let him run the the read option. You have to know he keeps talking about third down plays. They were three ten on third down. All the wait a second. What happened when the game is teetering? The game is on the line early in the fourth quarter who eats eight minutes and twenty three seconds o'clock with an eighteen play eighty two yard drive who made every play in that drive every play. When he faces another team that they don't sack six times and that the quarterback actually on schedule, you know, is a big. I was the biggest nineteen Avondale Beckham junior, yeah, but you've got to get him to, you got to be able to get in a ball. Can Zeke run forty like saquon? No, he can't. He data say are not gonna win a lot of games this season. If they're only scoring seventeen eighteen telling you the whole preseason pie defense is really good. And when my defense gets David Irving back and Randy Gregory back and Daytona Jones back, you're gonna be in big trouble because we're going to be doing a lot of this on defense as what we're going to do because we're going to be. What about often. It's good enough. It'll just you're gonna see a lot of these vintage eighteen play eighty two yard drives and guess what? Today we signed Brice Butler. Did I not beat the table? Let's say, go get him. He is Dax favorite receiver from last year. He averaged twenty one yards a catch. I'm not saying he's a number one because we've had on the show. Again. I like him personally, but he's he's got high football character and he has deep connection adak president. You ruin just watch. He can run and he's a big kid too, and he will get open deep every once in a while because remember the Zona Monday night game last year after the it was the third week last year after the D'amoto in Denver and Brice Butler caught two home runs from Dak Prescott that's going to happen again. So do I have designate prime? I do not do have Jason Witten his prime. I definitely do you say feel plus minus. He plugging underwriting. Eat a tiny degree. And by the way we put Blake jar are starting tight end on the hands team. At the end of the game in the ball hits him, run the hands that he can't even catch that. I know it's hard to catch those because they're tricky because you usually them. You know part of that here we go. Sweat the end of the skip. I want you to stop saying degree of difficulty. He's high degree of difficulty. Gymnast my my line is below average, right? Noah. No, it's not. I'm sorry. Go into the Pro Bowl tyrants with going to the Pro Bowl, so I'm not sure if he's going to this year's Pro Bowl, five pro Bono. Yeah. Yeah. He got one or two when he sixteen where we just blew people off the ball that was twenty sixteen. It's over now this a new year. Connor Williams shouldn't be swearing. I don't think he could start for a lot. Maybe that's the best Dak Prescott you ever gonna see what you saw in two thousand sixteen? Well, I'm sorry, this guy last night I did. He just went to the yards while the giants a real. Mark my words just remember I said this, the giants are a top five defense. They are really good top their bottom thirty, two offense. And because defense is going to be put them. Vac won't finish in the top five. I'll take that. I don't know. I just know that will be able to fill that a lot. Terry running between the tackles you just gotta block for you can't have him being barest. He got a two or three people just to get out of the backfield. What about Nate solar probe skim, the offensive line is the only unit that needs to play one. You got five guys, but they need to be one. They have to be cohesive, and usually that fits their mass. My defense is really good, really about my man woozy who's all around? Did he not do number on Dale? I don't know. You add enough time to get some ball. Timebomb. Here and saying, hey, they should not draft saquon because they weren't a running back away. But that's a whole nother subject. You write about that. Laugh. Redskins are wanna one. The eagles are wanna want. The Cowboys are one, one guy, Utah, but you'll be to run away. I did not. I predicted they would lose it Carolina and beat the giants. They're heading to Seattle. Seattle has a short week because you know. The ATL confident sitting. I'm just doing what I thought I would be willing to be neutralize Mamane risks. That's for sure. Seattle, like Russell Russell Wilson? He's really good because Bobby Wagner KJA. Right. They got fixing defense guys out. No, I got Earl. With you. They're plenty of controversy in Green Bay yesterday with under two minutes left in the fourth and the Packers up eight Kirk cousins threw an interception that would have sealed the win for Green Bay, but clay Matthews was called for a roughing. The passer penalty referee. Tony Corinto said Matthews was flagged because he lifted cousins up and drove him into the ground. The Vikings went on to tie the game, and that was the final score after two missed field goals in overtime, take a listen to Matthews on the controversial play. We'll call it was, but at the same time. I don't know what else to do. I mean, I don't know you let me know. Tell me I put pressure on, you know, I thought I hit him within, you know. Waist to chess, got my head across. Put my hands down in the call. At that point of the game is just, I mean, it's unbelievable last week. Okay. You know, shame on me, but this week, that's unbelievable. So and the worst part is probably send it in and you know what. And you know doing, say, they're gonna say, you know, they'll find fault on me because they're gonna. They're gonna agree with the reps, so I don't know a difficult call to call. And I mean, you see how it changed the game, and I know there's an emphasis on protecting quarterbacks leads has gotten out of control here. I don't know what else to do Shannon. Was it a penalty on clay? This is the textbook when the NFL withdrawing this rule up saying, we don't want to defend his weight on the quarterback. This is textbook, Aaron Rodgers rule. You remember Anthony Barr, Aaron Rodgers out of the game last year because he put his body weight on any drove him into the turf. This is the exact same thing Klay Matthew understand, you cannot drop your body weight. Tom Brady also has a rules get you remember you can no longer hit the quarterback in the pocket below. The waist, Tom Brady got hit in the knee towards ACL. They changed the rule the next year, Aaron Rodgers get knocked out of the game. What I the second game of the season last year they changed the. A rule the following year. This is the way it is clay. You're going to have to adapt. You cannot teacup the guy which means he lifted ever so slightly and his shoulder with driven into Kirk cousins, give cousins. My cousin. I told you for real, I told you about I good. We'll go do this because even though that might be the Klay case, and I know what you're gonna say that play spoken? No, I'm not talking to work. I didn't ask you always put words in my mouth. Yeah, exactly. Why don't you speak for you and for me and then we'll go, no, no, no, no, I don't wanna do that. 'cause I want to hear what you have to say that I got a bunch. I already know because here's the thing, yes, that gay of the Minnesota Vikings sick, a second chance, a new life. True. But at the end of the day, overs cousins still had to get them into the end zone and not only did they have to get him in the end. He had to get them two point conversion behi-. He made that throwing the sidelines unity to all alum field. I don't know how he got it in there. He got to be magic. Can't wait. That was top of field is Houdini. Yeah, they got shows in Vegas. The magic is not that good. Yeah, a bunch of shows pin Tele. So Chris budget of show and they don't got magic. Like what I did yesterday and then that'll slow, go rob a two point conversion swing. I'll give you that one but skip. This is this was textbook in the NFL wanted to show guys. This is what we're trying to do because like you said, quarterback other face of the NFL and they don't want these guys hurt. They missed Aaron Rodgers for what eight, nine weeks. Last year, Tom Brady, miss fifteen weeks of the season. They don't want that. So they're not gonna let you dry the quarterback into the dirt anymore hits. This is why you see five, six, seven touchdown performances. This is why you see guys back in the day skip, you know, they would have never thrown for four hundred yards this why you see the offense of explosion because the quarterback protected the receivers protected, and now you're getting these numbers that are going haywire. But this was textbook. Clay Matthews tip. The pick the guy ever slightly and he drove his shoulder into him. This was the right call and their little if they file in the first quarter. If this is a penalty in the third quarter is gotta be a penalty. Time of the game should not influence should not dictate when you told the flag of flag of a flag regardless the time of the game and whether or not the outcome of the game could possibly hinge on it. At the end of the day, that flag did not give them a touchdown. Coven still had to drive this team into the end zone and get the two point conversion and he did it like I knew he would. So everything you just heard was just as wrong as that flag was and your all your opinions backed up from my Jenny from many here because she's a Vikings fan. No heat on your side. She's she's, you know. Oh, yeah. Forgot. Wait a second. Okay. I'm pretty sure that referee Tony currency through that flag was also a judge at the triple g fight the night before. I think he did double duty. Eweek and this was an even bigger robbery, and I thought that was an all time robbery because I tweeted at round by round. And I thought that triple g took that fight over in the six round and imposed his will on canal all the way home and he'd lost because two judges said he lost. This was even worse. This is in Green Bay on the how low tundra of Lambeau Field. This is Tony currently throwing a flag that canceled out assure Packers victory. It's game over respected, and by the way before I get to just how bad this call was right on schedule your guy, what do you call him? First cousin, eternal, right? Back into Kurt cousins, right on schedule because with two thirteen left, he threw an interception that wasn't exactly his fault, but it was once again wild-eyed over amped over. Did it hit the guy hit Liquan Treadwell, right in the hands through it too hard. It's not money. Well, it's just one of those passes where you just like. I'm out of my mind and he throws it in LA Quantrill, right, hands intercepted. But now we get to the key point. It's now down to one forty five left. It's first and ten at the twenty five and Kurt cousins comes flying apart again because he drops back. He goes blind. He goes deer in headlights. He's blinking and he just flings it as far as he can fling it to really to nobody. It looked like Geijer Alexander the rookie cornerback first round draft pick out of Louisville for the Packers. Looked like he was the intended receiver on this play, and it is easily intercepted. And I'm saying there he is. That's Kirk cousins. Yeah, there he is. And then all of a sudden I hear, oh, there's a fly, what there's flying for, what you what? You know what? I watched the replay and I fall out of my chair. The was there was absolutely nothing wrong with what clay Matthews did he. He basically just nice and easily tackled Kirk cousins. That's all he did. He tackling. Just as the ball was leaving his, did he pick him up and drop in his Tony Caridi. Let's see that again. Did he pick him up and dropping? No. You just tired. Right. Daddy fall with all of his body white on Kirk cousins. No, he felt sideway at a nesting completely time. Put him in the plane. Helmet Dalmat though we did not hit him down, but it was as nice and easy. Lean. A novel of the quarterback was Kirk cousins heard on his plate. Flag Kurt himself said after the game, it was a generous call. Yeah, it was real generous and clay Matthews got victimized again because that game is flat out over. It's one thirty seven left and air. The great Aaron Rodgers has the ball back and he's gonna make one first down and they're going to kill the clock and it's going to be over because it's twenty nine to twenty one at that point. They're up eight point. You don't mind me asking, okay. When they got that penalty, how many points did the Viking get for that penalty? How many point? Yeah, they got none co Kirk over over over time out. Okay. They got the first down. They gave him fifteen yards, but did they get eight points for that or the Vikings have to drive down the field down to one conversion. So speaking of that touchdown pass to feeling that you talked about. It did not point out that the magic was that this was such a bad throat that to Packers should've intercepted before feeling caught it and believe it or not. This ball actually. Raises off Geijer Alexander's jersey. It's twenty, three's jersey at hit on the way down it it actually carems slightly off his jersey. Look at this. Ooh to credit or shoot to Phelan's credit. He stays locked in on the football and he watches it all the way in his hands and it was another. It should have been the third pink of the game for Kirk cousins, and I gave you the two point conversion past the fate route. It was beautiful, just flying. That's that's. That's too good. But see what I cover the showing what he's capable of when you surround him with better talent, you give him feeling. You give him dig. You give him route up. You give him cook. You give him latavius Murray now wouldn't get a chance to talk about it. Look at check down Alex. How yesterday skip with that fame team now, first cousin, we're throwing for four thousand yards and thirty touchdowns. Yeah, and right on schedule every time it gets my Cowboys. I could just book it that he would throw it to us when you least you don't have the play the cowboy to worry about one in six against my Cowboys, and he should be, oh, and one against his division rival should be the interception that ended the going. Odin such an outrageous call. How can you roll that flag at Lambeau. With a penalty. Not yet. Defending somebody like an Aaron Rodgers. I've dollar almost in the same vein is LeBron James Shannon, Sharpe if told me all last week, no way to air, what. What. No way. What did they say he should not have played really, really good. Can we early play? It's third and seven. Third and seven in the first quarter to tie game and what it Aaron Rodgers. Dude, Bramble scrim. Oh, we don't have that one on, sorry. But he goes right up the middle, any actually get the? I do. I can. I use the verbal. He ran, no, he ran, you lay. He ran, he didn't labor. He ran all the way up. How many even let me ask you this in air Rogers, thirteen. Fourteen years in the National Football League. How many times have you seen him where Nibras? Well, it's because as Adam Schefter of ESPN reported yesterday he has a bruised knee, it's bone bruised, so you want to protect the need from taking another shot directly on the knee, but his ligaments were all okay, which is exactly why the team doctor a week ago, Sunday night against the bears at halftime said at halftime. You cannot hurt it any worse. It's because the ligaments were fine. He's doing. If ligaments. If you ever need a neabry, you've got the brace on to protect it from taking another shot to the knee because it's very painful, but it doesn't hurt to run straightforward. All I'm saying is how many times have you seen have seen air Rogers play wherever you go. His this, did he that look like menu hav. Where Jaren Rogers, white. A second look at this he takes on. I wouldn't know he was hurt. He's got a Balki break question. Wow. That was ready to wear. That was the limp around guy. Remember he's playing on quote, unquote one leg. Yes. Interested. You noted, there's nothing wrong with Tom Brady's knee, but he wears a knee brace skill because he's been through it, he's comfortable with and so he used to wearing it. Rogers is not used to wearing a knee brace. Interesting. When you used to having when you're an athlete, skip, we try we to a conference zone. So whatever kind of pad you where you normally stick with that and when you have to go outside of your comfort zone, it becomes cumbersome brace or no brace. I told you, err Rogers would play well enough to win the game and he did. I thought he played very well against one of the top five defenses in pro football. Any should won the game and Tony Caridi who ref the Gluskin fight the night before he question the differs. Defers cousins play. What enough to win the game. Now he picked up one hundred twenty five yard intake. Remember that thanksgiving against doc. When doc went four for four in the red zone cousins for five hundred yards and loss for four fifty somebody but hold on the. The man was thirty five or forty eight for four, twenty five and four down how you saying very good on defense. They are not very good. They're gonna have a hard time. Now, all of a sudden the pack is very good on. They're just not. Oh, so where have you been saying, Rogers, losing the offs? Thank you. That's all I wanted to do Jimmy to that Trump. I just wanted to get him on record, saying back on you. Calling all I ever hear. They're terrible on. I wanted to. Then the Packers air Arja very good. He was good enough to win the game. It was over, right? If the flag doesn't get thrown, what happened play Matthew do when he does, does the flag get thrown into mighty, you can't put your body weight on the quarterback. He didn't put his weight on the absurd, highly respected, Tony Carinthia. You need to put some respect main, you know what? He, he even had a bad view of it because fifty to the jerseys in between him and the quarterback with your by. I can't believe you said that. Now you're talking about the man view was struck. Couldn't see what was half what he put him back to the everything. So take a listen to this story bills cornerback vantera Davis abruptly retired at halftime of the teams lost in the chargers yesterday after the game, the ten year vet issued a statement saying, quote today on the field reality hit me fast and hard. I shouldn't be out there anymore. Coach, Sean McDermott said after the game, Davis quote, pulled himself out of the game. He communicated to us that he was done. How Shannon have you ever seen anything like this never know my life? If you knew arguable inform, obviously hit my grandpa. They had hauled. We had chickens. I was in poor eight. I went to a county fair goat hill and Akao she'll and I never seen or heard bleat like this before in my life never. Now, I've seen guys quitting training him. Skip guys been twelve thirteen, fourteen plus years. You president three out of the day the alway to not now, but always you don't wanna do no normally skit. When a guy reaches this conclusion, he says, you know what? I don't wanna lift this heavy as waiting the more. I don't want to eat. I've been eating for the last ten fifteen years. I don't wanna condition like what it requires me to go out there and compete at my absolute best. They do this in the season. They don't do it in the heat of competition. But if you remember last year, skip Mischer Tate sought right there. And she said, you know what? It came to me in the middle of the fight that I was done. She said, I hate it that it cap and that time, but I had to keep fighting or I could have seriously been hurting. Yep, vantera Davis. I commend him skill because we said, you know what? Man that guy just the money. I know some other guys that have quit, they quit mentally, but they still showed a physically. He was in a place that he says, you know what? I don't wanna do it anymore. Now, buffalo say that I wish you had told me that earlier. They didn't just come to this realization yesterday if your member indie cutting with it last year. So this was hair. You know, this was brewing now, maybe he's like, if you watch the footage of the charge was scoring touchdowns. There's not a buffalo defender in sight. So vantera Davison said, hell. A lot of you guys retired, see what I'm seeing. I'm just mad enough to walk away from it. It's when you get to this point in time when I was talking about this last night when you reach this point, you know what you do. You want me to the locker room. You put your uniform in the middle of the clothes. You take a shower, get dressed. You look around, you realize I'm never coming back in another locker room again. You do out? I've never skip. I see. See I when I heard it, I like I'm reading twit into up on this coming. Bontade Davis retires. I'm gonna how they retire, how you retired doing the game. I never ever heard, and I've heard listen, I've share some stories and I've heard some stories, but this is might be one of the strangest stories in my fourteen years of playing and being around for another fifteen years that I've ever heard all my life. So I'm with you on this. I have zero use four zero respect for vantera Davis saying no moss at halftime. If he wanted to do it after the game he wanted to today. I'm fine with that because this was predictable to me. If you look at his recent history, I don't think his mind or his body was into what was going on on the football field. And he knew it just like me. She Tate said she knew. So let's look quickly back in his career. He was a twenty fifth pick in the first round for the Miami Dolphins, and he was basically a bust in Miami night traded him to Indy. And he sort of found himself. He's found a second home in a second live in Indianapolis, and in twenty four teen in two thousand fifteen. He made the Pro Bowl and he got his money. He got twenty million guaranteed. He has made fifty four million dollars for his career, but right on schedule last year, he tears his groin early in the year. He says he needs surgery, which he did. So he had surgery and indie said we are out done and we cut you at the end of the year, and I'm pretty sure he's thinking, am I done yet? Like is this it? But buffalo calls and says, hey, we'll give you two million more. And on top of the two million guaranteed we'll give you fifty thousand dollars a game that you make the forty six man roster. So he's thinking, I don't know. It's pretty easy money, right? Get one point five to fully guaranteeing base. All right meal. Okay. So he's saying this is just like easy money, right, stealing, but you still have to actually play football. So what happened in as he was not ready to play yet? He was not healthy coming off his surgery. What happened in training camp? He could not play what happened in the season opener this year. The first game he was in active and what happened? Right on schedule buffalo, probably the worst team in the league. They have so many injuries at corner and say, please, I had to play. And not only did they have to suit him. They had to start him and what happens right away. In that game, you saw Mike Williams gets wide open and victimizes. This guy vantera Davis. A former pro bowler is a shame that he's just getting lit up. Yes, he just doesn't wanna play anymore. Okay. So he should've stopped, but he's trying to steal the money and guess what? He they, they yanked him after the the first touchdown pass. It was a seven, nothing touchdown pass to Mike Williams. They Yankee him and they bench him and he's saying, what do I need this? For sure, he's overreacted from his post. This is Instagram post, whatever it looked like. He was kinda trying to apologize between the lines by saying, I never said I shouldn't have done this, but he basically just telling you this is not how I'm busy my retirement and he as you mentioned, skip he the shot fighter. But when somebody saying, okay, here's one point. Five million will guarantee you two million and every every game that you're on the roster, you get fifty thousand. Dollars in city. Plus you're a veteran player. Yeah. So he could have made what five million dollars this year alone. Right. But come Oprah. No, I don't hear what this you only had to do. I'll add to do is come back out and stand on the side. That's all they had. It's over right then go into and go in Monday and say, coke ain't got no more appreciate everything. He's appreciate you guys giving me an opportunity and believing, but coach, mentally. I'm not here physically. I just can't do it anymore. And now you have some dignity, man how you look at that man and people ask me what you say. I wouldn't say anything might have had with him 'cause we get whipped Ardabil team. I'm like, man, get on about here. First of all, you've been pretending all this time. 'cause I can assure you, they're probably been some of his teammates going to the coach, hey, man, we need volunteer, look, man, put von Dan, the hearing, it'd be no word. So now I'm Jay, but you got my credibility and then you pull this giant. That's correct kit. Ron. Get out of here. So several his veteran teammates were really, you should be. They greened him out. I should have because I can't defend any of, no, I do get it. I do see it. I do feel what he was feeling. He's a former Pro Bowl or who was humiliated running step on the field and get tortured by Mike Williams, right? And he says, I can't. He also did not want to associate with the mess that is now automobile starting, Josh Allen, a quarterback who struggle a fourteen QBR not. Not going to get any better, but that's the things normally like, like I said, you made it the hard part thing about you condition all season. You've eaten had to eat a certain way you had to do certain things you go through training camp kept the hard part is over. They don't practice hard anymore in the regular season. Basically a lot of walk through you do little minimum work, and then you go play the game. So it's not like strenuous like it used to it. What did you tell me? You hit this wall at one point. We just said, I can't take the meetings anymore. I still enjoy training. I still enjoy eating that way. I still enjoy conditioning. It was just a meeting and I believe if might would have told me, Shannon, you don't have to do meeting. I believe out of turn. I believe out of turn the CBS deal down because I still love not have. No, he wouldn't over there. So I had to tell about how they go, you know, if I will go to meet it, I will go to yourself where I would be happy. Well, somewhere Montes collecting is last like he's he's good to say no. To say, no, you gotta suit me. Go to the players association food me to get it because you fulfill your obligation. I ain't giving you Jack a matter of fact, I'm coming to get some of that signing bonus back. They might. I know mine mine go quit on me and keep my money. I wish I, I wish I might think you'd think you'll keep my money. I'm going to get it. I have a feeling he's going to wake up and, hey, thank maybe handle that a bit in different ABM bit differently. Just goes down side last, but you know what Kip now that I think about it going home, your mind's not there, your heart's not into it, don't listen, don't waste your time and more importantly, don't waste mine because my time is more important. Yours. I know you heart's not in it. You've already keep it movie. I'm gonna give him credit booth. John did this because he could have handled it a better way, but we always tell guy, don't you steal money, don't just collect checks going home. If you hard in his heart wasn't in it. He went home. He just handled the in the job. So the chiefs went to Pittsburgh yesterday and beat the Steelers. Thanks to six touchdown passes by Patrick Mahomes tribes, Kelsey, Sammy Watkins. Each had one hundred yards in the chiefs have scored eighty points in their first two games. On the other side, the Steelers have not look good at all starting their season with a tie and a loss. So Shannon are the chiefs that good or the Steelers. Bad things can be true. Yep. I believe this chiefs offense that good and the Steelers defense is trash. We just saw lashing the playoffs give up forty five, the Jacksonville, and we're talking about Blake, Bortles, Blake, Bortles got forty five against the Steelers deepen, and I believe this is why you are not neither one of us pick them to represent the AFC in the Super Bowl because this defense now you remember couple of years ago, they fired dick lebeau because they said his own Blance and dick lebeau. He was archaic thinking come to find out. It's not dick lebeau system is this play these players that he has stated all their money invested on inside of football. You look at got like fourteen million of beyond comes back and they got another seventeen eighteen million of being. They got sixteen million tied up Antonio Brown. They left tackle the center guard, get paid top dollar for their position. So all the money on the side of the book ball basically got a few dollars tied up and Hayward the tackle, but that's this. They're not very good. It's a simple of that. They aren't good. Kansas City's offense. When you talk about tyreek hill, tyreek hill has track speed, but he the football player, yes, which is a rarity normally guys that can run that fast. They don't play football berry will he can fly Sammy Watkins. He can keep get deep this why they paid him skill because he has that kind of -bility. Dallas Cowboys and you see what grabs kills the believe the second best football behind rob gun young athletic than Shannon Sharpe, but I'll just go out there. I mean, he's he's the best I've ever seen canine, but that's not about. Kareem hunt league in rushing can catch the ball out of the backfield and the thing that I think Andy loves about Mahomes if you put the ball up, he thought about downfield. He is not worried about his completion percentage. He's not worried about it. QB are ratings east throwing the ball down the field, and we know points come out and big plays come out of putting the ball up. So two things are at play are true at play here, Kansas City's offense. Is that good? The Pittsburgh Steelers defense is that band and when you combine those two things together, you get a guy. The second year, throw a vix touchdowns in two games, immersive games of the season. Nobody in the history of the NFL has had more touchdown passes the what Patrick Mahomes this week rack. And this is what by the way, a third thing could be true also, what Pittsburgh's offense is really explosive. Down twenty one to nothing, and then I go. Wanted to twenty one, yes. And then Kansas City wins the third quarter fourteen to seven. And then here comes been back in the fourth quarter. I just show you the stats which we don't have time to go through for this game. If you just looked at the stats and didn't know the outcome, you might think the Steelers won their. They didn't turn it over one time and they add more yards than Mahomes. Offense had both teams went four for four in the red zone, which is pretty great combined eight for eight and the red zone. They're just cash like crazy. Now, quick on Mahomes. We've had him on the show before that draft. He's a great kid. He's made of the right stuff is follow was very good bigly pitcher. And yet what I said about him at Texas Tech is he is a high risk high reward interception thrower. So just for the record at Texas Tech is the starting quarterback. He had to gains of six interceptions two of six. He had four games of five interceptions eight games of four interceptions. These are high. Hi goes it just because he will try just about anything. Anytime. A beautiful thing that's happening is once Andy Reed says, that's my guy. Then Andy Reid who is a savant at teaching young quarterbacks saw what he did with Don McNabb and on and on. Well, he's going to make him the best he can be and so far so great. Will he try some things later this year that he shouldn't try and pixie probably will. But now we're back to this question. I think this was far more about Pittsburgh. It's just a troubled football team and I can't figure all of it out, but the way they turned on Levy on, I've never seen that before talking about. We'd never seen vaunt Davis, just retired halftime. I never seen a team just turn on its star running back, right when his money is on the table in question, and they all said, heck with him in. So now I don't know. Do they bring back Levy on they only had thirty three yards rushing yesterday, so it was all through the flying circus through the air. Do you think they'll bring back Levy on this. Week and probably so I think they probably do well that fix what ails them. I don't think it will. I don't know. You look, you look at Mahomes skip. He was twenty three of twenty three twenty six, six touchdowns. They had all the head. All these points on fifty. Four plays. The average game is somewhere between sixty and sixty. Five plays this kid in starting as you're saying. I'll take that, then I'll take that and then I'll do that. What makes them so difficult is that you almost have to play exclusively zone because tyreek hill is so fat cushion. Okay. Now you got Travis Kelsey. What are you gonna do with and you can take you want your linebacker, you say dealing with Dr Kelsey, and then you've got Sammy Watkins on the other side running bags, like Habash light, what we call light box. They don't want that eight guy. They won't six or seven so now and plus we gotta worry about. We got Sammy Watkins on one side. We got tyreek here and we got Travis Kelsey. If he doesn't turn the ball over. Because remember you mentioned those gave me at eight games before and the fiftieth I think he also had a game where he threw for seven hundred dollars does does against mile. Yes, he had a game. He had a game, seven hundred yard. We got a huge on. Yeah, and he's got great charisma about what, what game this get with that? I think that was in the preseason Atlanta where he threw the ball seventy yards in air the tar heel. He out due to defend. Yes, throw. So remember bottom line, Mike, Tomlin's, forte and expertise, defensive side. So something's going to have to give here pretty soon. You can go deep if all you won't do. But at the end of day, skip you better. Have some stood you Bob Baffert half to triple crown. Winners do American Phero unjustified. They're not shutting opponents. They're not class Dale. They're not showered nobody. Boy horse gap. I'm a horse guy to new union. No. Clips award for horse race coverage. You gotta give how 'cause I was really good. Hey, count recount recount. Thanks for listening to the undisputed podcast. I'm Jenny tapped join us again at the same time tomorrow morning. Nine thirty eastern. See you then.

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Watch out for the Chiefs - Are the Patriots desperate

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Oh, that's where the h. is supposed to be where your body performs at its best. And that's why I am completely yoked. Are you guys rolling up your sleeves? I don't know if you noticed you rolled your sleeves up to to reveal that monstrous python on your right arm, and we just decided, hey, us. Outguns guns out, right? You guys should leave your sleeves down though. You are kind of pasty and freckly Mike. Is not a good look award winning crisp clean, taste wide. Mouthed is perfect for hydration, you can find core water at your neighborhood. Seven. Eleven is the one with the blue cap core ph balanced water, learn more at hydrate with core dot com. Mike, really interesting, two weeks of football and. I'm a former Bronco you know, AFC west and I, I looked at the coal, he'll Patrick Mahomes situation in Kansas City. And I was like a, you know, the chiefs. I like to call September's darlings, you know, they're always going to play well in September and everybody. They're going to get everybody. Twitter, paid it about them. You know, they're panties are going to be in a bunch and come playoff time. They're just going to get their asses kick. You know, that's what happens with Kansas City. And I thought Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, he's gonna make a lot of off schedule. Big throws is gonna make a lot of mistakes. I've watched the film the last two weeks. Tell you what of like Oche. She's the grill. Good it. Patrick Mahomes has been money. He's been straight balls, man, so so can I have some of your stinking good green chili to layer over the plate? A crow, I think I gotta eat because, yeah, during the OSCE, as I like come on chief fan, you know, he had one meaningless start last year. He's gonna look like a young quarterback and they're playing tough schedule. They start off with chargers Steelers on the road. They're going to be some growing pains early. Are you kidding me? Ten touchdowns to the first two weeks, but it's not even. Was he. He was he okay. So I if you have to understand Andy Reid is one of the great play designers and play callers. So think about it as kind of a layered concept. So, okay, you come off with a run, whatever that run is, let's call it an eyesore or something right. And all of that is so run. You're going to have a jet, sweep motion, you know, kind of a ghost motion that's gonna hold the backside or let's a zone run, whatever it is. So you've got some type of running play that you've called and you've designed with some type of motion based off of it, and then you run that. And then off that play, you've got the motion that you can hand it to the motion guy, the jet sweep, motion guy, right? And then all of that you have the jet, sweep motion, and all of a sudden you've gotta play where you're running. You know, some type zone read shovel, pass, something that comes off. So every one of these layers looks identical, but every one of them is something different than off of that you've gotta play pass where you can you Chuck it, deep off that same motion that same run action. So you've got four or five layers to one play. They all look identical and they're all completely different. And I think. Gets a defense playing on its heels. I, it makes you, you know you your soul aware of all the. I candy that you're looking at. I candy also they punch in the mouth, and then you're thinking you're gonna get punched in the mouth, and then they give it to the eye candy. So it makes it exceptionally hard. But here's the thing that's been most amazing might. The kid has just been money like he's got a hose, he's nine. He was in high school. He's ninety four off the bump, I think. So he's gotta host. He is absolutely fearless when it comes to throw the ball. But the thing that's amazed me most is from the pocket. I've seen him on like a slant, see the coverage, wait to the second window. Take one in the teeth and put the ball on the money to tyreek hill. Run of the slant in the second window catches it and takes it sixty yards to the house because it was so perfectly delivered. And he's so damn fast, and it's in the seems. This tied in Travis Kelsey, almost my son-in-law there was. This gave me tell that story day, but it's a piss shiver to think about that. I'm glad that didn't happen. Travis flare nine. No to change. Here's here's the thing about what what he's doing. Okay. So are you telling me you tell them all the football fans out there that all this is a bunch of just great scheming that the league will catch up to more you seen throws that are being made and decisions that are being made by homes that are sustainable? Yeah, I'm seeing him. They're here to stay. I'm seeing him. Read coverage, know where he wants to go the football based on the coverage, and then you know, then having the wherewithal to be accurate enough to hit it between defenders. And you know Pittsburgh is notoriously zone team. They play a ton of zone men. He ate them six touchdowns e eight them. I mean, it was. It was literally, it was, you know, like rudimentary like it was you're, you're a, you know, you've got a PHD mathematics and somebody asked you to do addition like addition and subtraction problems. Right may that's that's how easy it was. And the other thing about him that's intriguing. Is really quick delivery. Very accurate with his quick delivery, but he has got the kind of arm strength where you can be a second late, you know, half second late and still beat a defender to the point. So like I have been, I've been a critic I've been like, come on, there's going to be some growing pains. I'm right there with you. Serving up crow, eating it. He is the the kid is been nothing short of amazing. He really has been good. All right. So if that explains what Patrick Mahomes is doing, how in the world do you explain what Ryan Fitzpatrick is doing? He sold his soul. Oh, the devil. He's been guy has been late. You see the first play the game I play. The game gets covered three. They run in and they run like a opposed to d- Jack in the safety comes charging up like it's going to be a diggers going to be underneath underneath. I don't know what he was doing. It was Malcolm Jenkins and fist patch just throw just lofts the ball out there about sixty ours, Aaron DJ just runs underneath it and that do can run like like day nobody's business. He's been incredibly accurate. I think the first game he was four out of five with balls thrown over forty yards. I give eat. It's just, it's been uncanny, I'll tell you, I tell you the thing like Ryan Fitzpatrick and everybody goes, oh, well, he's Arbor guy, you know. So it's that that's so cliche, you know, he's smart. He went to Harvard right now with the Harvard or north west, so Idaho, which is a lot like the Harvard of the Harvard Harvard to the north west, Idaho is lot like the Harvard of the Harvard only. Totally different. Ryan Fitzpatrick go into Harvard, his cliche, it's a college just like everywhere else. Just like I know what you're trying to say. Well, I, you know, I don't know. I think that he's probably really smart, doesn't make you really smart football player. I say, okay, just because you went to Harvard, does make you a smart digestible football player. He is though the issue with him is that when things are off schedule in the in the thirty percent of the time thinks get off schedule an NFL offense. He has been prone in the past to make mistakes. Now I've always said, I've never seen a more accurate off platform thrower than Aaron Rodgers. Anytime my career as a player or as an analyst. Ryan Fitzpatrick is making throws from body positions. He's like a torsion est. I mean, he's like he's making a yoga book and still delivering the ball on time. Like he is like awkward platforms like lean one way and running. And then all of a sudden just like sidearm flipping it back all the way like halfway across. I mean, it's just been, it's been unreal, and I'm telling you it is right in the hands. Like in that passing training, when you put your your fingers in your thumb together and you make the diamond like it is hitting guys in stride right there from these crazy looking platforms like they, somebody should do a breakdown of just his awkward delivery platform because it'd be incr- it'd be fascinating tape to watch. Now. He's gone up before though, but then he eventually reverts back to what he's been good, solid journeyman type quarterback. So if you're the box. Kit. Can you count on this continuing long-term? Or you're still go back to Jameis Winston as soon as Winston's ready to come back, here's what I can count on them. The bucks that Jay missed Winston is going to be a mistake repeater. That's what I can count on. I go back to James Wisden. James Winston is going to continue to make the mistakes to Jameis Winston consistently makes, you know, and on a side note, I mean, that's kind of his life right on the football field. The one thing you can't tolerate his mistake repeaters guys that do the same thing over and over and over again. But he's done that off the field as well. And you know, I, I always hate the guy that goes well, you know him him grabbing the the. Yeah, yeah, of some gallon a, you know, of a, yeah. Yeah. He said. Was like JJ oh yeah. The JJ by ya. Ya technical term right. Hold on. Let me go to web MD. Okay. Us go to web MD JJ. Oh, it is with j. so him grabbing the JJ of some Uber driver is not a mistake. That's a salt, right? That's the. That's like, I hate that. Well, he made a mistake. We go ahead and make that mistake on on, you know, my daughter. And I'm going to act. I'm gonna premeditatively make a mistake, beaten your ass. That's what I'm gonna do so, but you know, he's been a mistake repeater on the football field, and that's just not good enough. And I know that Ryan Fitzpatrick has been there too, but the way he's playing right now, there's just no way you could go back to Jameis Winston, he's got that. I mean, he comes out, you see him looking like Conor McGregor with the big beard and glasses, and he's got the rings on get frigging ringer may look great. So it he had Vija, Jack, we'll come Vija de Jack, you know, the Sean Jackson, he had his is close on like DJ comes in after the game. And he's like in a pair of shorts with no shirt on. He's like, dude, like those are my clothes. Oh yeah. I just borrowed these. I'll get back to like my chains. My clothes I out of my locker said, go do a press conference, right? They're having fun. They're playing great together. They believe in this guy and he has been nothing short of amazing. So for you can't, you can't as a. Football team. You can't go as a coach who's on the hot seat in Dirk cutter. You can't go back to James. I don't care how much you're paying him. You just can't go back to them. Now you look at Mahomes. You look at Fitzpatrick, look who they get to throw to tyreek hill Travis Kelsey, Mike Evans to Sean Jackson. And then you look at poor, Tom Brady more Tom Brady with who to throw to. And now they make the Josh Gordon trade, which I, you know, everyone's like typical patriots, move, brilliant, move. I, I don't know. I think it smacks of a lot of desperation. I see their wide receiver totals are among the worst in the league right now. See, but I disagree with you. Does brazen. There is no risk here. He's on. He's on a veteran minimum salary. They have proven in the fact, here's what I love about them. Like Cleveland continued in hopes to get him back to. Able him due to continue, you know, to nurture him and good for them. I mean, you want a guy at the end of the day. You wanna go to get his life, right? So they did that, but New England's got no vested interest in in other than he can play, right? They've got, no, they've got no history novellist at history in him and their and their history would tell you play well or go get good or gig on. That's our, that's our history. So we're going to give you an opportunity and we've seen it work both ways we, hey, we're gonna give you opportunity and if you play. Great, that's super. If you don't, we'll get ready. You know, we've seen it with guys like Lou Gehrig blunt play. Great. You got a chance you can play for a while. We've seen it with guys like clock, killing Corey Dillon, right? Randy moss. We've seen the other side of that. Didn't they sign Albert Hanes worth, you know, and and they. Ended up dumping him and if it's just because they're willing to dump a guy, if he doesn't tow, the patriot way doesn't help their issue. I mean, yeah, they could come in and they could tell Corey, the Josh Gordon my way or the highway, our way or the highway. We'll great if it turns out that he doesn't do it he's supposed to do or he doesn't click with Tom Brady. They're still trying to address right there wide receivers. And remember we've seen a lot of veteran or shoes Cevers that have come through there with with big names and big resumes from Ocho Cinco to Reggie Wayne too. Just in the last off season Jordan Mathews Kenny Britt, Eric decker? None of them could click with Tom Brady, right? No. I mean, certainly some of that is you know, with decker that was the handsome thing I told you already gave you my hand. Yeah. If you come in and you even come close to challenging Brady on just on pure handsomeness you're gone. That's garoppolos. And along garoppolos in San Francisco y, you had decker cut. Joe? Yeah. I mean, Gordon is going to have to come in maybe four or five days a scrub. Don't brush your teeth. You know, come in smell a little bit. Maybe a ratty looking hat. You don't wanna come in looking good right off the bat because that's going to be a, you're all sudden the alerts going to be up. You know your antenna if you're Brady's will will will what is this? Handsome guy. You're gone, but thinking about this now they're also going to get their best to me one of their best football players and the guy who's kind of the actuator that offense when it just comes to attitude, they're getting back after week four Julian Edelman, and that is certainly gonna take pressure off the guys outside. And even if Josh Gordon just comes down there and says, hey, you're going to run the Randy moss route tear tree. You're gonna run a nine and a dig. You know, those are the two things you get to run. So we'll see, we'll I, I just think there's there's high repair of reward very low risk. And that just seems. To be something the patriots are willing to do. By the way, Jacksonville, you and I wouldn't on this on this conversation last week, you and I were kinda lead odds on the whole Jacksonville, no. Are you willing to admit now the Jackson, you're right, and I was wrong while I was wrong, you're, you're smarter than me. Thank you. Yeah, but, but isn't it? Don't you look Jacksonville differently now how they are the team to be in the AFC right now? And I'm not just saying based on what happened on b. I'm based on what happened last year in the AFC championship game with the head, the patriots on the ropes. You know that they learned from that experience and they're better for it. They're the team to beat in the NFC they are. So they're such a physically tough football team in there are talented football team. I'll I called the Rams in Arizona last weekend and a lot of people in the offseason. How can they myself included? How are they going to put all this incredible talent together? You know how they're going to put these personalities together, a key to leave and Marcus Peters, and and Domigan, sue and Aaron, Donald Brandin cooks on the offense of side of the ball and how are all these guys. They're paying to mention this, that and the other and they are exceptionally talented people look at talent, Mike, and they think, oh speed and athleticism. And they have all that. But let me tell you about Jacksonville and let me tell you about the Rams. They have all that talent. They have all that speed. Yes, they have it in spades, you know what they do. They out hit people. The Rams just absolutely open a can of whoop pass on both sides of the ball against AirAsia. They completely out physical that football team and ex exactly what I saw when I watched the film yesterday of of the patriots that not only offense of -ly did the Jacksonville Jaguars impose their will defensively that defensive front seven. I'm telling you what the speed of that linebacking corps. You know, Tom Brady trying to dump it off underneath and you've got, you've got the linebackers, Jack and Smith just flying around hitting people in the lips. You know. I mean, it just is like catch YM, you know, will you think you're going to get four or five yards to your gain its second in eight now, what? And that's to me that was like glaring now, their quarterback may plays. Their receivers. Cole was freaking phenomenal. You see the one hand catch he made on the sideline. I mean, he was phenomenal that they got Austin safari Jenkins and in the red zone, big target. They didn't even have Leonard fournette and Yeldan with his long giraffe. Looking neck and body was was making big plays. He's kind of a long like DeMarco Murray kinda awkwardly tall, looking guy when he runs, but he ran hard. He ran well a mean they physically dominated that football game. So again, I was Mike, you're right. I was wrong. I am dumb. You're smart. Now we may be able to debate whether or not the road the AFC goes through Jacksonville or not, or if he still goes to New England one place, I think we could both agree. It doesn't go through is Pittsburgh more drama, more Tonio Brown home. Oh goodness. On the sideline saying, if you want to win the freaking game, throw me the freaking ball, and you got some former Steeler PR flack flack, eat flaky, takes a takes a shoddy flag. What was I trying to say? Funky funky flunky maybe a funky flunky anywhere. Flunky check that one shot and Antonio Brown saying that, hey, you know, Big Ben made you and Tonio responds by saying, hey, trade me and find out and Mark I, it's just it's something we've talked about. It seems like we talk about every single week here on this on this on the conversation that we have is just the unnecessary and unwanted drama that seems to surround the Steelers. Yeah, they just wonder, is it all? Is it all piling up to the point where it's become too much and that's why they're out to kind of start that they're often they are the days of our lives. You know? I mean, they are the soap opera of this of this league. When you take away your focus from your weekly pep preparation, go back to week one where the talk should have been going to Cleveland Cleveland coming off hard, NAS Cleveland, a more talented team. They've got better football players and they've had at any point in time. No. What will you talking about in your media session in the locker room? Lady on bell and how he wasn't there anymore. Right. And you think that carries over whether it does or it doesn't doesn't matter. The perception is you were focused on that and not on the game, and you ended up coming away with that in a tie. And now you got the, you know, the Antonio Brown stuff, and there just seems to be just the soap opera. I literally as as watching that film yesterday, my I laughed as early in that game, the offense of line missed a couple bullets pickups, they they missed on a couple of blocks in the running game guys are getting tattooed in the backfield and I go, maybe I should. I don't know, quit worrying about what on bell is doing. And maybe focus on blocking somebody's ass. You know, like a bunch of turds just disown them as offense of lemon that don't not happy at all. But again, like the fact that Mike Tomlin didn't come out week one and said, hey, dudes in a team meeting. We've got open locker room here first time on on, you know, first time this season Wednesday, it's open locker room. We will not discuss anybody who is not a part of this team is currently constructed lives in that locker room. Do I make myself understood? We are one hundred percent focused on Cleveland. You know, we're on to Cincinnati, were onto Cleveland Browns the fact that you don't have that conversation and you don't. He came out. In talked about Twitter and talked about his players like going after, you know, levian bell or whatever they would. It was some some Twitter and he's like, I don't even. I don't worry. Oh, no, no, no. It was in Tonio Brown. Who earlier in the week threatened to punch one of the beat writers for the Steelers, right? Punch him in the mouth. You remember that and this is on Twitter. He threatened him on Twitter, and instead of saying, instead of addressing it in his in his press conference and saying, you know, we don't. We don't. That's not going to be allowed here. And instead of doing something about it, Mike Tomlin said, well, I don't miss. You know, it's Twitter. It's not real. You know, there's a Ballata hyperbole that goes, I'm not gonna. I don't address the Twitter. I don't worry about that. Well, you better worry about it because guess what? It's a distraction to your football team. And I mean, they have way too much. Talent there. Oh one and one. They away too much talent and you know what? I don't have any doubt that they'll get it together and they'll win a lot of games and you know what the but you know where they won't win. They won't win the playoffs against New England. They won't win in the playoffs against the discipline team. They'll get their ass kicked like they have for last six years in a row. There's no easy way to transition to. So I'm just gonna ask you, have you ever seen anything like what happens Monty Davis. This is this just all I hear as a fan. Okay. All I've heard is that you know, what would you miss most about playing their ex athlete? Oh, man, I missed. I missed a relationship. Karuma rod or Ryan miss the law. I missed the idea of, you know, my guy next to me and I'm battling for him and he's battling for me. So if all that stuff is true. How in the hell do you decide that you're legacy after ten years in the NFL is to just quit? Not retire, right. Quit at halftime. You come in the locker room instead of taking your pads off and they're like, what are you doing? Are you just changed sweaty now, take a shower pill. I don't wanna play here anymore. I'm just going to go. It's like a scene right out office space. Are you going to tell them? You're gonna, bright. Are you going to tell them? Are you going to tell them? You're not gonna show up? No, I just don't wanna go anymore. Yeah, but you're gonna quit? No, I'm not going to quit. Just not gonna show up. I mean, did the did the due to the psychologist from officemate hypnotized Monty Davis. I mean, you remember the pain you're getting getting there. You're, you're falling, you're falling deeper. Meanwhile, he's pumping his his left arm because he's having a heart attack, and then he just kills over dead. I have no idea how like how you do that. And then I start thinking, I mean my Lord, like that's your shoe legacy. Yeah. I mean, you're going to be remembered. Yeah, right. So not for ten years? No. Sometimes maybe infant infamy is better than than being famous, but you're going down with that being your legacy walked out at halftime of his team. I mean, it's crazy. I started thinking, what kind of endorsements could he do like do something for the American Heart Association. Listen, if you don't have enough heart to finish, you know what I mean? The the quit line smokers, quit line like a be like me and quit. Aren't companies get to reach out to retirement planning, Comey, eighteen or eight? What is it? A Ameritrade, whatever it is. Mayor Trie Ameritrade, retirement planning. Listen, I am von Davis. I'm bowling retirement going over tyrant. Sometimes it hits you like a ton of bricks. Are you prepared? Are you prepared? I am guy stole for ten years and I walked away and he that's a good pro. He was a good player. He was starting that day. I know. Gosh. About it speaking speaking of just of endorsement deals, and I know we already talked about Josh Gordon, but do you pull your hamstring at a photo shoot? Like, what are you? What? What's the endorsement opportunity you got that on Friday. You went to afternoon photo, shoot, and on Saturday, your hamstring was so sore that you couldn't play on Sunday. What are you endorsing treadmills treadmills, right? Stretchy bands or something. Hot yoga. I mean, I don't know what it is. He was just looking to get out and he got it. Do you think he planned it like, I don't wanna be here anymore, and I'm going to say Miami strings, tweet you so they they've had enough that'll be, I know that they're so close. This'll be the straw that breaks the camel's back. Gotta be right. It's especially when it turns around and says, I'm ready to go Sunday for the patriots, right? I mean, they said he's gonna be out there nationally and you'll nationally televised Sunday night football Holland passes from Brady, who is who is a linebacker that the patriots was Jamie Collins that he was. He went to bed at seven and woke up at Owen, seven traded Cleveland, got traded Cleveland. I haven't heard another thing about him sense. No, and he was a great player for them. This is going to he's the anti. He's the anti Jamie Jones. He will go, but, oh one and one and said now Miami's tight. And then they said, okay, now you're a patriot. I mean, hey, talent wins out in this league. There's another example. That guy naval, they enabled enabled. He took advantage of it and they finally said enough, we're going to make a statement, right? We're going to deactivate you. We're going to trade. You go to New England, and now he's going to go to where the principal has strong leadership and they'll, he'll probably just thri watch will be the next Randy moss. They surprise, you know, I mean, I I wouldn't. I wouldn't bet on it, but it's a prize. You wouldn't surprise me at all because I'd duties eight, talented, son of a gun, all they say, hey, look, just go deep. Just get all these other guys causing havoc underneath go, deep, Tom will find you. Tommy Tommy will file which Tom it would find me Jesus. Tom Tomei note. There's no wagging ward. There do handsome, he'd have me fired up. Hey, everybody involved with a sticky truth bug as we appreciate you. Listen, thank you to our presenting sponsor core water for Mike for myself for Scott, the huff we'll tune in with you later in the week. Thanks. 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A Knockout in the AFC Title Game Rematch, Kirk Cousins's First Test as Vikings QB, Browns Need to Go Baker | The Monday Morning NFL Podcast

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A Knockout in the AFC Title Game Rematch, Kirk Cousins's First Test as Vikings QB, Browns Need to Go Baker | The Monday Morning NFL Podcast

"The Jaguars take out there. AFC title game frustrations on the patriots. Kirk cousins shows why he's worked the big money by time for the Browns to move onto Baker Mayfield plus case keenum more fits magic, that Cowboys deeds liberty. We're breaking down week two on the m QB Monday morning, NFL podcasts. Hello and welcome to the m. v. Monday morning NFL podcast. I'm Gary grambling here with anti-noise. We are ready to talk some to football here. Couple of couple headliner Super Bowl contenders going at it and really just a week of kicker, heartbreak. Yeah, it's going to say, let's just mentioned the kicker thing real quick, get it out on the way and then we'd get onto talk. And actually I don't. I don't wanna talk plant legs and that's handy. I wished to didn't move that extra point back. I hate that some touchdowns are six and summer. Seven and what the sites it was the guy that really isn't a football player. I hate I, I will say it's better TV. I get that. It's better TV. I don't think it's better enough TV. I still don't pay attention to the extra points like I don't either. I look elsewhere and if there's some sort of commotion, I look back, oh, we missed the extra point. Okay, that's it. I imagine what will like anyway, I get so into washing the down and distance impersonal groupings on the field all go for a quarter and a half without knowing the I watched a Brown saints today and didn't notice the extra point missed until I thought, wait a minute, how they get the twelve and it was about time I think is when I thought that I just I wished the touchdowns were not a Matic seven touchdowns need to be worth double and plus one of what a field goals so that you can't. Yes, correct. Yeah. Needs to be a mathematical thing. Otherwise, you incentivize fuel goals too much if you make a field goal half a touchdown. I agree. I think they're not doing extra points in the in the spring league. The alliance of American football will on come on their Email list and start driving me crazy. That alliance of American football will. We'll have to break it all down when when it comes up next offseason. But let's let's jump into week two. Here. We're going to start with the Jaguars over the patriots. I'm not going to say it's a seismic shift in the AFC. There's nothing seismic shifting that happens in September. This was one that the Jaguars wanted though. I mean, you know, I, it stuck in their crawl the way they, they feel like they got less aggressive back in January and let that one get away from them and vox borough. So this seemed to mean a little bit more to them and they went out and got it. And you could sort of see in this game, Blake Bortles had two or three runs scrammed. Balls in the fourth quarter where you know he was sort of a third in medium type of situation, and he was lowering his head. He was going helmet. I into guys to try and get the first down. They played this like they, they wanted it very badly and they, they really soundly outplayed the patriots in this. There's this idea that when you quote unquote hide your quarterback, I think what we envision is quarterbacks handing it off a bunch. We hope that the handoffs produce such good runs that he really doesn't have to throw very much. And if he does throw, maybe we call a screen pass and we're going to get by that way. And the reality is in the NFL, nobody's good enough to run the ball that way just doesn't worry Jacksonville specially with Leonard for net out. So really when it comes to hiding your QB and that's too harsh of a term, really, it's gay managing playing around your QB. You've got to throw the ball with him on early downs. You can't just go in and hope. The quarterback doesn't throw. The last thing that did that was Jacksonville week five last year, and we'd never seen it into previous years before, and it usually doesn't turn into a win. That's when they beat the Steelers with all those turnovers. But usually you've got to hide your QB by giving him easy, throws on easy downs against predictable looks and Gary. Nobody has done that over the last dating back. To last year, let's say over the last six to eight games. No one's done that better than the Jacksonville Jaguars. Yeah. I mean and look, Blake Bortles for forty five times in this game, they ran it including some of the borough scrambles twenty four rushing attempts. They were constantly in third and medium. And third and short, their playbook was open. They had. They had options. And look. They had playmakers making plays in this de Westbrook had a long catch and run touchdown keeling coal had probably the play of the day with the the Odell Beckham catch, but yet they they pretty much picked apart the the patriots. For most of this one. They had a couple of sloppy turnovers in the second half one tipped interception off of sparing Jenkins hands and one DA Charq got it a ripped away from him after a catch, but they were pretty much in control this one. And obviously a big part of that. Not just what do offensively. The defense was outstanding. Again, they took gronkowski out of the game to Shawn Gibson with a little bit of help and the patriots just don't really have the playmakers outside of gronkowski at this point. Yeah, that's what gets lost New England's wide receiving corps. This weren't the patriots. We would be talking about how I, how amazingly bad the receiving course. I don't mean. That disrespectfully of Chris HOGAN, and Phillips or set has actually been a little better this year than he wasn't passengers, but those are not your number one. And number two receiving core, Daryl Patterson. It's just it's not an NFL quality, receiving core, Julian Edmonds absences of big deal. He's going to really change that offense when he gets back. But for now they've got to play around that and it gets it's hard to play around that when you're facing the AFC's fastest and best defense. Yeah, and it was a the only notes I'll give you on this one is it was a hot one seemed to be in triple digits on the field on those thermometers they have down there. And the other thing is look like we said, nothing society in September. However, Jaguars figured to be right there, challenging the patriots for that top seed in the AFC, and this is a game and a half lead now for the Jaguars if we're talking about home field in January. So a nice win. Obviously one, they really wanted to. Have in one, they certainly earned on on Sunday. Let's go, let's go Vikings Packers. Another tie. Everyone loves the tie. No tie. I can understand why people hate ties, but you know what the whole point of playing the game is to rep the end. We wanted outcome that represents how the game was played in. Almost always one team was better than the other. They get the win or the loss. Sometimes a game was so even if both teams got nothing, and if that's what's Representative of the game over the big course of the season, I can live with that. That's, that's. That's what's technically is most fair for the standings. I understand what people would hate it though. In that it's a, it's an issue that doesn't get scratched. Yes, it's that half game sitting out there you gotta tie again. You gotta have two ties if you're going to tight once. This was a, I mean, look the Packers held a to possession lead for the majority of the fourth quarter. This was when you're talking about, you know, his cousins worth the eighty four million guaranteed over three years. This is the kind of game that they needed Kirk cousins to make a ton of plays and Kirk cousins. Sometimes you get bad, Kirk cousins. Sometimes he forces throws. Sometimes he turns it over. This was good, Kirk cousins. He put a couple balls out there that looked like they were in danger and they ended up getting through and and he brought him back in this one. They needed a couple touchdowns. They needed a two point, conversion cousins. Got all that. And on top of that, he put him in position for two field goals in overtime, including a thirty five yarder as overtime expired and the rookie kicker. Daniel Carlson just just had one of those days. Miss both of them. Cousins for all his faults and he doesn't have a ton of him, but they're distinct faults and they've lead to turn overs over the years. And that's why he's a little bit polarizing. He has incredible toughness in the pocket and some of these negative place stem from him. Taking that toughness a tad too far at times to the plus side, though is you've got a guy who's equipped to make plays like this late in the fourth quarter. I remember that Seattle Washington game last year. The Redskins had all backup offense of Lehman and went up to Seattle in one with cousins, making two incredible throws deep down field. You saw a little bit of that in this game that touchdown to Adam Phelan that tied it up. It set up the digs two point fade. Have you said as perfect as ball placement can get, that's as big time as it gets. I think he was getting crushed on that too. I mean, that was that was something then I guess, type a play. I mean, that is. Of stuff. It was one of those things, especially in the broadcast angle, it's like, oh my goodness, that's always going to get picked. No, it's it fit right in there and feeling made the made the play on it. So yeah, that was that play was was was unbelievable. Should we be worried about Green Bay here the last week we got all excited. 'cause they're secondary. They've drafted these young guys. He's corners gyro Zander, Kevin kings in his second year, Josh Jackson who can match up too tight ends. It looks like at times a bigger guy and the stop the bears and Amanda man, they can blitz. Now it's a Mike pet and defense. And then here they are getting torched when they face two of the league's better route runners, at least and yeah, feeling. But those guys had their way with these Packer DB's today, I, I wouldn't say I'm worried about it and there's still a whole lot better than they were a year ago and they played well for for basically three quarters in this game, y'all. It got dicey the fourth quarter. I think they just faced a couple of superior receivers who who made a lot of plays and a quarterback who got hot, I don't think it's problematic, and especially if you are. You know, putting them on a trajectory where they're going to improve as the year goes on. I think the Packers have something in that second era. I think they're going to be really good. And I think when we're talking about this in December and January, I think we're talking about them as a reason why the Packers are once again, Super Bowl contenders here. One other thing to keep in mind. Kyle Rudolph today. Seven catches seventy two yards. When John Filipa was the offensive coordinator in Cleveland. That was the year that Gary Barnett's member clunky. Jerry Barnish come get, came out of nowhere in had I came in a yards. He's top ten for tight ends for sure. That way he did that under day Filipa day Filipa does a nice job by design of using his tight end both getting them the ball, and then using what the tight end means to creating opportunities for other people. And I asked him once what his favourite formation was, and he said a three by one formation. And then I say, what your second favorite formation? And he said a one by three and I said, you know, hey, it's a nice way to say you love the three, my one, and he got very serious and said, no one by three is different to us. A one by three means a tight ends by himself on the backside, and I've always remembered that about him. He said, he's he's borderline sensitive about loving those tight end formations on the one by threes we call them, what do we call on the show gigs? We talk about it a lot that Adam gays, Miami Dolphins formation. I always just speed trips. That's what I say. It's the Sean McVay lexicon. Speed trips trips, three wide receivers. Tight end is the back guy. I've always called the why is, oh, but I. I like that to to what other people call it and then try to to parrot them because that's how you if you're ever if you're ever near in Iraq shot of John Filipa you'd be sure to call it one by three. I will. I'll I'll intermittently just in case he's around and I don't see him ship. He's been using Rudolph in those one by threes to. That's what's interesting because Rudolph is not Zakar the guy a watched Philly. Last year. He's not that kind of athlete, but it's it's just something to keep in mind that the tight end can be a real weapon in day Filipo scheme. Plus he's got to outstanding wide receivers to two more notes from this game. Roughing, the passer calls. I mean, that was a that was the big story line in week one less of a story line across the league in week too. But in this game certainly played a big role. Clay Matthews picked up a pretty it was it was. It was a tough call. I think it was a tough call. I think. Tony guaranteed had to keep the flag in his pocket on that one, but it racing interception that that would have given the Packers. The wind pretty much there was also one on Eric Hendricks earlier in the game, which is also I thought was more of a fifty fifty. It looked like a bit of a shoulder drive into the ground type of thing. I don't know. Do you have any did? Did you get fired up riled up by those calls? Andy, I'm watching this Matthews hit again in the slow in slow motion. I can understand from Karenzi's angle. I can see why I have thought there was an excessive field. The promise cousins is leaving his feet as he's the throw. So cousins is leaving his feet. I would. I would not have flagged this either, but I, I am fine with the NFL airing on the side of quarterback safety. I sometimes live with this and last thing which was actually probably the only thing anyone would talk about going into this game. Was Aaron Rodgers healthwise. He moved around a lot better than he did in the second half of that bears game last Sunday night. Still not what he would usually be around like. But I would if I was gonna throw a number out there which is very scientific and and medical, I'd say was about eighty percent. In this one, I thought most note worthy when they were in overtime, they gave a little zone read, look and Rogers. Actually he kept it and it might have been a nice little gainer except he I don't even know how did he somehow sort of stripped himself on the on a little fumble there and actually sort of stalled the drive with that. But he was confident enough to to clearly and it wasn't when those things, whereas a miscommunication with the running back and and you know, did he keep it? He pulled the ball down out of the backs belly and was was ready to take off with it. So he, I guess, was feeling feeling pretty good about that knee. If they can add that dimension to their offense. Watch out there he go. I think they gotta take it easy for a little bit, but. Gosh, as of like Friday, I I know I thought they might just end up sitting them here. Oh, again, not to not to put too much stock on September games at this point, but Vikings pretty a precinct -nificant in that they get a tie a non loss should we say at Green Bay and what figures to be the the race for the NFC north title here makes all tell you why it's real significant because their second match up now will be a big time tiebreaker game. 'cause the tiebreaker head to head for, let's say they both finish eleven five. Yup. And the the playoffs, four magical while who has the head the head advantage now that they've tied, there's going to be a winner and a loser in that head to head. They're not gonna have split the series and we're gonna have to go fifth or sixth tiebreaker option. So there's a very big Vikings Packers game potentially on the horizon. Can't wait until they tie in Minnesota. For a move on Andy, you'll only within VO game pass. Can you replay every game all season. It's NFL football. Anytime on your time? There were so many great games this weekend, like we said, Kirk cousins with some of those Harare things. Aaron Rodgers was moving better that a lot of folks thought he would. You can watch it second guests all the Browns decisions or watch in all at what Patrick Mahomes is doing with NFL game pass. You can replay all of those games from every angle. There's the broadcast version, commercial free. There's coaches film which shows the all twenty two angle the pros and coaches us, and which we use quite often on this show. And then there's the condense games that let you watch a game in about forty, five minutes. Remember with NFL game pass. It's gametime anytime. Best of all you can kick off the Twenty-eight thousand NFL season with a seven day. Free trial of NFL game pass sign up now at NFL dot com. Slash m QB ten things that's 'em QB one zero things game on. On and as Andy, and I always say, we, we are very happy. NFL game, pass subscribers around our offices. So get it. Free trial can't lose. Andy, let's go Browns saints. Everyone's gonna talk about being Gonzalez in this one and, and you know, hey, he missed some kicks, that's that's how it goes. Sometimes we'll, let's make missed the kick to. I do wanna start. Let's start on the Saint side of the ball. This defense gave up a lot of points to Ryan Fitzpatrick gave up. A along touch on a forty seven yard touchdown that tied this game late and then they gave up. I mean, they really played soft on the Browns final drive that allowed them to move into a field goal position one last time, but for saints fans. Are you worried about this defense? Has this defense regress from last year's at too early to say, well, I did not like how soft they were in their eight man coverages down the stretch at times and that game. Those last two plays. That was a concern. The Callaway touchdowns, a great throw by tyrod Taylor, but ultimately the Brown's got Calloway screaming to the secondary pretty unimpeded. So it has not been a good defensive look so foreign. The other thing is at New Orleans pass Russia's been nonexistent. I mean, they, they didn't reach the quarterback today. They didn't reach the quarterback against Tampa. Now they were fade the bucks. In that case especial, they're facing a team that puts extra bodies in protection. But as a defense, you've got to make your opponent pay for that. I didn't think the saints linebackers a week ago were really particularly good on green dog blitzing which is I, if your man stays in blocks to help pass protect, you've got a man to man. Don't just stand there. Go blitz to quarterback. The saints were not. You know, I just don't quite know what their identity is from an aggression standpoint. Right now feels like there's still trying their hand at a lot of different things. I think they'll get it figured out still alternately. But they need to play better defensively. And let's let's talk about the Browns. I mean, look that tyrod Taylor throw dantonio Callaway. I felt like that was the first time they sort of had a tyrod Taylor play play out. Granted, there was weather problems last week, but I mean, that's kind of what tyrod does best is that you know those those long, throws those deep balls over the top of the defense as opposed to, you know, trying to fit in intermediate or deeper throws. He just doesn't really do that. But. I mean, look at this was another despite that throw. This is another shaky performance from him. They gotta make a change because they're not using him a whole lot in their running game. I think they ran read option twice with him, which is fine. Yeah, I must say me run a bunch of read option, but they're not doing a lot in the boot action game. So he's not even threatening the backside of the defense to help their running game. They're not really featuring his mobility. Well, if you're not featuring mobility, what's he doing out there? Because he's, we've been over this a bunch. He's not an anticipation passer, he's a seat and throw at passer. The problem is the Browns issue with Jarvis Landry just like we suspected they might Gary there. They've become a lot more schematically advanced. They're not just a spread out ice, oh, route Browns at through twenty two hundred with a rookie quarterback. Last year they're scheming. They're using formations. They've done a very good job, but bunches lately, getting receivers, matchups getting guys crossing the field and Taylor's hit some of those. He's not a bad throw or on cross. There's, but overall, when you're playing a highly schemed offense, you have to have a quarterback that's going to anticipate those schemes working. He's got know how the plays work and be willing to trust at and throw the ball before they fully work that's in -ticipant in passing. And if he doesn't do that, then you might as well go run the 'isolation routes because at least then he's got more options. Theoretically when he's running around looking for word, a throw the ball. So I don't think Taylor's schematic fit for the Browns is the bottom line and Baker Mayfield from everything we've heard stylistically he would be. So I don't understand why Baker Mayfield it's not starting unless he just absolutely looks lost in the meetings during the week. But from what we know of him, I would find that hard to believe. Yeah. Again, Robert go did that whole series all draft season and all we heard, and this was this was not just the Browns. This is across the league. I mean, Baker Mayfield was was blown people away with his his Accu men with. With his work on the chalkboard, or would they use now in the greaseboard. Yeah, you know he was. He seemed to be very much NFL ready. I do want to back you up real quick because I thought you, you broke this down really well. Tyrod did throw. A call. So interception last week he had another one this week. His thing is protecting the ball. This interception this week was unusual because it really did it started with with a very nicely done, sort of sort of untie rod type type of movement within the pocket, and it just ended really poorly. Oh, so have you read the jury at at my article, then my Taylor article, I edited your article, but but it was. It was a, it was a point that was made repeatedly on the broadcast, and it really was when he, gosh, when that play played out is like, oh, he'd never does that. And then. It was a bummer. And for our listeners, I guess we'll do the courtesy of telling them what you and you talking about, right? Yeah, is there is Kirk Coleman who blitzed off the edge, which is something he actually does pretty well. He's a former panther safety's now with the saints. He got in clean or got him very quickly in Taylor had to move within the pocket, which is not Taylor strength. He's not a subtle nuance pocket mover on this play. He was, but the problem was in the process of it. He stared down David and Joe coups skinny post or in breaking route, and he led free safety Marcus Williams right to the ball, and I thought that play was really indicative of the subtleties of not being a natural pocket passer, because if that were Tom Brady or drew Brees or Philip rivers, one of the, if that were a true it was called even a limited pocket passer for some of those guys where you have to play within the pocket. They're moving within the pocket to avoid. Lead Kirk Coleman, and they're not leading. The safety with there is still they're still scanning the field, manipulating the safety on their terms just like they would if they weren't moving within the pocket, their pocket movement become seamless in natural for Taylor because it's not seamless natural. He moved and yes, he moved very well, but he sacrificed some of his downfield vision in the process because it's just not a natural thing. He's used to tucking and running the ball, and I thought it's just one more illustration Mayfield. If he's to have a nice career, he'll have to move with subtlety and nuance in the pocket. I would imagine that something he'll be pretty good at because he has no choice put to be good at. Yeah, yeah, it's just it's just the little things. It's Taylor's not the right fit for traditional pocket passing scheme. And that's what the Browns are trying to run. Yeah. You know as as far as making you change? I, I don't think it's option to do with this week. They got a short week there. The jets, I mean short week and Todd Bowles defense. I think that's a, that's rough. But. It gets interesting if they win Thursday night and it's look, it's at home against the jets team that just got beat up a little bit playing a rookie quarterback home teams tend to have a little bit of an extra edge on Thursday night anyway. Then it gets interesting. Do you? I mean, if if you lose and you have ten days, maybe make the switch, but if you're coming off a win d, do you sort of play to the public and say, we're, we're riding with this guy. Does Shawn Watson went into Cincinnati on a Thursday game last year in pulled one out, you did not look great doing bowl bowl, and he could run around and make something out of nothing. That's not really what you're expected with maybe. So, yeah, maybe this isn't the week to play them, but if the Browns did theoretically put in Mayfield, I wouldn't throw a fit over that. He had a watch and had played the second half of the the opener. And that's your right text point knelt down against. Jacksonville there. But yeah, things. I think things get interesting if they if they win Thursday night, I think they lose. I think the absolutely have to make the move unless again, if something's going horribly wrong with Baker Mayfield behind the scenes, we don't see what's going on the day. But like you said, I mean, we gosh, weeded so much report on Baker Mayfield leading up to the draft and so many teams loved him because of the the football IQ and the processing speed and the the the storage room in his brain for all this stuff. I, it would just be shocking if that was the case, but what's go. Let's go Cowboys giants the Sunday night or this was. Most people play fantasy football and you were probably all psyched to to see a little bit of a shootout little bit of Odell Beckham, junior and saquon Barkley and and. It didn't really pan out Cowboys through a lot of slot blitzes at the giants really seem to catch the giants off guard, which I guess I look, I never think of the Cowboys has a team that use a lot of slop blitzes let's oh no, because they're not. That's not their identity. It's interesting because in training camp added conversation with allied manning about some of the Cowboys blitz packages, and he had a really good beat on some of their blitz. His last year in Dallas was bringing linebacker blitz is on the place we were talking about, and he was a nice conversation. He was open, but he wasn't all the way open because he knows he has to play Dallas again. So he was, he told me he wasn't saying everything here. I'd like to have a convert, you know what you need to do, Gary, the conversation you had with me, he needs to have it with his offense of line because those guys really struggled to identify what Dallas is doing, what the Cowboys do. They really stress an offensive line is. So if you don't have chemistry upfront, Dallas is not who you want to face because they do so many gap exchanges. Not just in their blitzes, but also in their run defense concepts. But let's talk about tonight. It was in there blitzes and a gap exchange, just stunts and twists ex guys crossing and shooting in the different gaps. They make you pass off a sinement and they make you identify assignments on the fly in different assignments. It can be a hard thing to deal with and you're not used to Dallas adding a fifth rusher to that equation. That was the game. They blitzed a bunch. The giants didn't have an answer in Dallas. One. If the giants had had an answer, the giants would have won this game because we saw what happened when Dallas stop listening when they were in lead protection mode, late in the giant started marching up and down the field. Yep. No, that was a nice job Rodman alley because we talk about these division rivalry games and Lord knows Eli manning against the Cowboys has been happening for for like forty years now. So to be able to catch the giants off guard and this one was a was impressive. And obviously the giants still have a a little bit of work to do here. It's the lack of a exp-. Please is a little bit frustrating. I mean, yeah, they they're touchdowns Garnett shine thing to Evan Angra. And then in week one saquon had the one, the one long run there, but this is it's, it's been two weeks in their own line short-circuited their offense. That's that's what it is through these first two weeks. The offense looks well designed Barclay. You can see the talent you can see that it exists. We're not really seeing in its full entirety yet that offensive lines in issue. And we thought it might be too Nate soldier was not gonna fix all five positions. Yeah, that was a gentleman said his his first order business was getting outline, go going there and it just hasn't hasn't played out in the first two weeks here Cowboys on on their side of the ball Dak kind of. Look like they would Cam Newton did last week and they make on said, let's do some of that stuff Dak on a couple of those zone. Read keepers really a really burned the giants. And and I'm that long touchdown today von Osten that just sort of held up as the game winning play for the most part. Prescott threw the ball a lot better. In this game. I still withholding judgement on Dallas offense. I think you need to. I know Prescott played in a spread system in college, and that's what he's comfortable with. I think as a pro quarterback, you need to have them in a more traditional rollout type of scheme where he's a facilitator, a regime, Rondo type accu- be out there. They haven't gotten to that fully yet. We saw some elements of it tonight. But in the meantime, Prescott at least through the ball, a lot better. He was not good and week one thrown the by, went back and watched that film even closer on Saturday. He was horrible. Throwing the ball in week one. I thought he was very good at times throwing the ball tonight. Yeah, I'm the Cowboys kind of played this game on on their terms. Thanks to that big play early on details on Austin, sixty four yard touchdown, pass their gap threw for one hundred sixty yards in this game. And I, it really never seem like they needed him to do a whole lot more. He converted a couple of third downs. On that on that long dry that kinda seal bit. But y'all, you take away that big play. That's less than a hundred yards passing in the game. And that was that was more than enough in in this one and they get through yet another week where they don't have driver's Frederick in probably feeling pretty good about that. Let's go Broncos. Raiders Eddie. Tell me about case keenum in this one because it it. It's all I'm it is it is. It's it's, it's ugly but hot at the same time. Yes, it's it's. I mean, I. I mean, I can say. I'll say something terrible. So let's just believe that to the barstool guys to figure out, but it's. That's how it was last week to k. case keenum has been accused of of extremes, and that's what Denver knew they were getting. I'm sure that's why Minnesota decided to get Kirk cousins. I what I had heard what was said to me for Minnesota was just, you know, a little bit more what you're getting with cousins. Keenum's a is not a double edged sword. He's played well enough over the last year and change to be given more respect than that. But I don't think he's been seeing the field entirely well, these first few weeks. And when you do that and you're an aggressive downfield deep, intermediate thrower, you're going to get some turnovers or you're going to get some missed opportunities in, you're going to get some ups and downs, and we've seen that, but you know what, Gary having said that the Broncos are to anno- from this and their defense looks like the defense. We saw few years ago. Yeah. Instead up. Let me let me back. They've got the talent to look like that. I was gonna say the raiders actually played very well against them today, but von Miller and Bradley Chubb look, excellent. The corners are man-to-man guys when Roby's in there with with Harris. We'll see what they do at nickel. I guess what I'm saying is in the big picture, there's reason for optimism with them today, though Oakland now played them at times. I'll give him that. But again there to a no, I think their defense is going to be pretty good. Yeah, I thought I thought Oakland played pretty well offensively especially compared to what we saw in the opener for them and they look, they couldn't put enough points on the board here. You know, they were. They were stuck on on twelve and then stuck on nineteen four for the rest of the game. So even though you know, you kind of say like, ooh, raiders kind of kind of got the best of them a couple of times. Eighteen points doesn't win a lot of NFL games at this point that was with Derek Carr. At one point, I think he was twenty four out of twenty six passing. And a lot of those were two wide receivers. They got the ball to Amari Cooper, much better job. Cooper played with confidence this week. Martavis Bryant was out there. I don't think he knew any of the plays. They only through wide receiver screens to them, but they had him on. He's at least. Hotter, sin type type type package for him? Yeah. Well, at least Patterson goes, jet motion moves around me. Bryant just stood out there and and caught what the through them, but maybe he'll learn stumped in as he goes along. I, I don't know, but it's it was a better much better looking raiders offense, but you're right. It did not yield a lot of points and that has to be a little unsettling. The other thing that I've forgotten how much I enjoyed until I've seen it now, again is all the Jon Gruden phases you get when things go poorly for the raiders. I almost root against the raiders just because I liked to see John gruden's facial response. It is kind of good to have him back. Raiders games are a lot more interesting. All right, handful of games left to go here, but you know, I, you know what's not smart leaning on your young kicker to win a game. Also, you know those job sites that send you tons of the wrong resumes to sort through. That's not smart either. But you know, what is smart, go to ZipRecruiter dot com, slash things to hire the right person. 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And I mean Mahomes twenty three twenty eight three twenty six six touchdowns and he was as good as that a that stat line would suggest. Vet Joe Haden injuries, big deal. If that's what made me Burg not be skin and your to watch the film on this one, this this is one. You need the all twenty two because we need to see how Mahomes reading the safeties and what they were making him read. If Pittsburgh was very simple and straightforward, which my sense was they were, but I don't wanna go that far yet. You might have a better sense for that, Gary, that Joe Haden injury was a big deal, then they need. They need a corner out there if they're going to disguise and be aggressive. Yeah, yeah. This one, this one overall was had a bit of a big twelve football field to it. Forty two thirty, seven final. It was chief for up to twenty one, nothing at the end of the first quarter, and that was twenty one twenty one at halftime. And both teams just sort of went up and down the field here. Plenty of plenty of a as good as Mahomes has been plenty of concern about this chiefs defense to this point, although still still no Eric berry. So maybe they get berry back in that. Provides a little bit of stability, but it looks like right now they're going to win a lot of win a lot of games in this fashion that's going to have to be shootouts. They've got questions at the cornerback position and they're a match up zone defense, which means a lot of their coverages play out, like man to man, you have to have corners to do them. Ryan Fitzpatrick does it again, I I can't believe this deep into the show and we're talking about Ryan Fitzpatrick shredding the eels, the defending champs in their building there, the the bucks are to ino Fitzpatrick fantastic. Again at his most dangerous in the shadow of his own gold goalposts here had to seventy five yard touchdown passes in the first twenty minutes of this one, including on the first play. The game got Sean Jackson. If you were disappointed that Sean Jackson didn't get it going last year. He's getting it going this year with Fitzpatrick under center. OJ Howard had along catching kitchen, run touchdown, and. I guess two points we talked about this a little bit last week. Fitzpatrick has been fantastic over two weeks. James Winston comes back week four. We have one more week to go. Perhaps Fitzpatrick falls on his face as he has some times in the past. But if he gives you even like a b. performance when they play the Steelers next Monday night, do you just keep them in there. So this far into the bucks intro and no acknowledgement of your buccaneers prediction. You're totally disrespectful dismissive, take on the buccaneers and how they were guaranteed to start. Oh, in three and. It's just a laughing stock of, I knew. Down even at four. I wanna make. I want to make two points. Number one, I said the dolphins are going into the playoffs. So I'm just gonna ride that for a while. But number two, Iran. What about the bucks? The opposite happens. You told me to bet then to win the Super Bowl a couple years ago when they ended up with the worst record in football. I did not tell you that you and MAC on some on your own. I raised, I read between the lines, the messaging, you're sending the Andy. And that was to a large amount of money on the one hundred to one bucks to win the Super Bowl, the MAC, which you're not supposed to do as editors by the way I do. They teach you when you for the time. It was Time Inc. when you got your Time Inc. employment package, what did it say about taking the predictions and one of the staff writers and using that to wager for your wager, your money, big money, big money a bit on this prediction. Then they'd using that against the the staff writer at the prediction doesn't come true. Yeah, that's. I mean, that's in the employee handbook. It's it's very much encouraged. Okay. Well, as long as it's encouraged Fitzpatrick's playing with great deafen. Decisiveness definition to cattle. No, but decisive nece. He's always been that kind of QB in. That's been his strength and his weakness right now in the nature, the bucks offense downfield passing off into certainly becoming a strengthen. And I, you know, I'm not surprised did what they did. Today, Gary, for the simple reason that Philadelphia's corners and safeties are uniquely aggressive out a lot of the eagles based coverages there safeties play shallow, especially Roddy McLeod. They're very aggressive there. They got over the top. The bucks did against a few times the corners. We've seen the issues at Jalen mills. His head would double moves. It's it's, it's it's an aggressive secondary. And if you fight fire with fire and you get that eagles d. line blocked up the secondary plays that way because they have a defensive line in front of them that's often getting the ball out quickly. So that's why you'd be more aggressive in the secondary. Well, if you're going max protection in your old lines holding up and that buccaneers oh, line is better than people realize it's not great, but it does not have a weakness. Aggressive defensive backs can get torched the the other side of this, and by the way, Fitzpatrick is now four and one as a as the buck saga here you go back to last year. I mean, the guys. I play really well in this system and perhaps adding that that offseason to basically prep as the early season starter sort sort of pushing through the next. We're not saying Ryan Fitzpatrick is going to throw for whatever he's on pace for sixty five hundred yards and and what it would be sixty four TD's or something like that. But there's going to be ups and downs, but this is very, this is very ups right now. And also Sean Jackson has now set the record for most sixty touchdowns in NFL. History. Nice. That's good. You should own that record. Yeah, it makes. Who would you guess he's tied with Joey Galloway? Joey doubt, LA, Trisha in that was a good guest though. Right? It was, but it's not gonna sound like a good guess when you hear the actual answer. Oh, like Jerry Rice. Randy moss. It's Jerry Rice. Yeah, that not that fun. He owns every never. I wouldn't have guessed at rice would have had the most sixty or touchdowns. I don't remember him as that kind of player. Like James Jackson has gotten there and how many games. One hundred and forty two career games yet can up Jerry Rice's games now. And that's probably part of it. But rice to me was not. He's not explosive like Jackson or moss. Well, I mean he was you know, he was all that catch and run stuff. And plus they just scored a million points rice, three hundred three games. So Jackson got the twenty three sixty yard touchdowns and one hundred forty two games. Jerry Rice did it in three hundred and three games can't tell me. Jackson shouldn't go to canton. I Bala Gary is he? That's that's a debate for next week show or whenever he gets his next sixty plus yard. Touchdown is Sean Jackson better than Jerry Rice. But no, that's that's good for him. He's he's had a he's had indeed career and he's obviously been big play threat and they were missing that last year. And now it seems like they've they've found it again. I just want to. I want to talk to you really quick. This might have been. Nick foles last start for the eagles possibly ever Carson Wentz their reports that he'll be ready to play in week. Three. Yeah. Trusting that went stays healthy, which which we hope he does that might be for foles. Open market next year. They have a mutual option foles in the eagles for twenty million. I can't imagine them keeping him on the books on that contract. Is he a starter next year? Is he, you know, I is he case keenum is he someone someone's going to bring in and say, we're going to give them a shot to become the guy. I don't think we'll see that happen. There's we'll, Kate will Cain and I did that project. If you weeks ago about the number of teams at feel, I should feel like they're set at QB and entering this off season which is ways off, of course, unlock it happen, but will and I thought there were about twenty eight teams that are set at quarterback already for twenty nineteen. And so that's a small market. That's a lot less than this year where we saw kicked case keenum contract. So I bet my guest now and again, a lot will happen between now and then into good offseason discussion. But my guess is Nick. Fulls will be viewed as a really high quality backup. All right. Let's go falcons Panthers. This is another big division battle here, falcons get it. Foul were in the red zone four times the scored four touchdowns. That's basically. That's how they, that's how they put up thirty one points. This is a thirty one, twenty four victory. They did it with that a devante Freeman, Matt Ryan ended up having a having to touchdown, runs yet a sort of a long scramble for the second one and then sort of dove into the end zone, which I don't know how excited I am about Matt Ryan, putting yourself in harm's way, but he did it. They got points and they got the wind here with a with a very short handed defense at this point, and speaking of a quarterback in harm's way, a great for the falcons had red zone offense going. That'll quiet there. Talk radio stations. They're in town for this week, but quarterback in harm's way that Cam Newton hit that Demonte. Casino laid out absolutely deserved ejection. Do you think it deserves suspension? I think it deserves suspension. I do to the more more and I know what I bet you Dan Quinn does because the falcons take a lot of pride, rich McKay, their presence. Or whatever his title is. He's a very powerful man in their front office. He is big on the safety in long term, health of football, football players, and that whole organization takes tremendous pride and tackling the right way and taking the head out of the game. It's a really big deal to those guys and to see one of their players. So violently and blatantly violate that, I'm sure is upsetting to them. I bet you they wouldn't put up much of a fight if the NFL wanted to suspend Kazeem for the hit to what what point in the game was the objected. I forget. Oh, that was I think it was late in the first half I, I'd suspend them then. I mean, that's so if you'd been injected in the very first quarter, maybe the year, the Lee. Yeah, that's kind of the suspension. He was out the whole game, but I think a game and a half that seems fair to me. No, sorry, that was early in the second quarter. I remember it was one of the Panthers touchdown drives. I couldn't remember which one I will say that the thing and I say all the time when people say, oh, the game moves so fast. The game who said these guys know how to move fast. This isn't the oh it it moves fast, but these guys are trained to react fast and and control their body. In that way, I will say in in Casey's defense, he's I mean, look, he's like one hundred eighty five pounds. Cam is to forty five. This wasn't a usual, you know, sort of the the defensive player taking out the sort of the helpless quarterback Cam should not be officiated differently, but I understand Casey sort of being ready to go a little more aggressively as Cam Newton was approaching him and obviously getting carried away on this. I see. Yeah, he didn't. That's eating to the the the league with like a reputation being dirty guy at San Diego State or anything like that. Obviously, there's a huge sample size in in Atlanta, but I mean, if he's out now there, I mean the falcons are digging here for for bodies on defensive side of the ball, the owning. I'll say about this game. I thought the Panthers lead him off the hook a little bit in the run game. I thought we'd see a little more. Whether it's McCaffrey or even c. j. Anderson c. j. Anderson had a long run early. I just thought you'd see him try and pound it a little bit more north south against the falcons. They end up, you know, Cam probably drop back fifty times and they they ended up probably calling fifteen or sixteen runs. They had eighteen on the game. Couple of those were Cam scrambles, but. Okay. Yeah, you they're going to be a run first offense. You're right about that. That has to be their identity. They at least on the positive side, the runs they have shown have been similar to what they've done over the years. North Turner has continued what predecessor offense coordinator. David Shula did so. Well, net is having a multiple deceptive Cam Newton Centric running game. Well, let's let's see what they have going forward here that that NFC south's suddenly looking really interesting. Lightning round dish? Nope. Lightning ish round. Let's put the ish after the lightning. Let's run down the rest of the games here. Titans beat the Texans. Texans. Still looking pretty disjointed on offense here, which I guess on a huge prize. It's been eight career start for Watson, missed, all that time with a torn ACL. The titans were without mariota. They got very creative. They end up scoring on a long fake touchdown, Kevin, Byers, excuse me, fake punt touchdown. Kevin buyer throws to the rookie sixty six yards who was a Chris, Chris cynic out of Arizona. And yeah, titans end up a sort of outlasting. The Texans in this one is in bad weather in in Tennessee. Last week, the issue for the Texans. They just didn't have anybody at wide receiver. And so their office offense did not function this week will fuller was back at one hundred thirteen yards receiving thirty nine yard touchdown included. The Andre Hopkins did his thing. Six catches one hundred. Ten still wasn't enough. That's a little bit unsettling now they gotta get going there in Houston. And by the way it's Dane Cruickshank as we once again or I should say, I once again butcher someone's name. I've only seen it spelled and I know who he is and I knew him at the Zona I'd never heard it pronounced. So I just looked it up dolphins, Miami Dolphins as I as I said in the in the preseason, they are on fire here. They shut down Sam darnold, derailing, Sam, darnold hall of fame trajectory here. This was a nice win for the dolphins. They even they had a, they made some pretty sloppy mistakes too in the second half. But. They were in control of this one for for the most part dolphins have a good set of safeties. I liked t. j. McDonald a long stocking body. A guy can play up up near the box down near the boxer back middle field. Reshad Jones is excellent. Afri defender, and then Minka Fitz, Patrick who's kind of been there slot guy so far. I know there are people in the organization. I thought the plan was, let's have him be our center center-field traffic director, but he gives them a third option. So they've got some guys to use your in a lot of versatility, and I think they're going to get better as the season goes on defensively. Andrew luck gets his first win. Since back in the two thousand sixteen season, they go to Washington and get this one. This was we, we've talked about the Redskins. It's sort of game flow dependent team. They fell behind in this one and they, they just didn't have what they had to have to to get back and not to mention the colts really took the Redskins rushing attack out of this one, two things from our guy read foster on this for for one Indianapolis, third down conversion rate right now sixty one percent, which is the best in the league last year was the falcons at forty four point seven to give you some context. And an Andrew luck is average past is traveling through the air doubt, four point, six yards. That's what that was this week was last week. I think it was around six yards. It's a Dink and dunk approach. I think that's what they need to do to keep luck safe. They're not going to be only that, but that has to become the foundation. And it looks like looks responding pretty well. They're instilling discipline upon him with the scheme. Yeah, it was a it looked like a little bit of a inclement weather there too. To sort of sort of playing into a into that game. But out in San Francisco, the lions, the lions got better and look the lions in, you know, whatever you want to say about Matt, Patricia. Lions played in this one. They played hard. They were still to mistake prone and and came up empty. Matthew Stafford with just a little bit off on a couple of deep throws. That would have been a big plays. They hung in there, but the forty Niners get the win in this one. Yeah, I, I don't know both these teams look like they are sort of working some things out at this point. I'm gonna watch film on this early in the week and maybe we'll do. I know the lions have the patriots coming up, don't they don't yet play the patriots on Sunday, maybe that's one we do in Thursday's show an alliance. Yeah, I'll look at that lions Niners from early in the week things. I'm eager to see what what's going on with Detroit. They, I will say the the one place when I mentioned this is Jimmy Garoppolo through a brutal interception when the forty Niners were were protecting a three point lead late, and he got bailed out by a holding call a good call. It was a hold, but it was away from the ball. It was not Neri. He was looking at. He just sort of drifted back and tried to throw a little ball into the flat that was easily intercepted and he had to make a what looked like at the time, a temporarily game saving tackle, but why we're going to have I in gold down three with the less than two minutes ago. That was that was interesting. The gods are smiling on Jimmy Garoppolo as they always do. Let's go to buffalo chargers. Hammer the the bills, not terribly surprising. Josh Allen was was fine. Again, considering the supporting cast. He he held up fine. Probably. The most interesting thing from this game was a Monte Davis retired at halftime, which just doesn't happen. No, it doesn't. I've watched. Do you ever see the movie boy? What was it was a movie with Christopher Walken at Philip, Seymour Hoffman in it. They were in an orchestra coretec. It was a very good movie. I'm sure someone will tweet us with the name of it. But anyway, the guy, one of the guys in the court Ted, he retired in the middle of the performance, which I guess is something you do on stage and that kind. That's an orchestra thing. That's not a football thing though. That's I don't know if eve is thinking it's a dramatic walk off for volunteer day, but this is probably what people will remember him for now and it's going to overshadow what otherwise was a stellar sometimes underachieving. But overall, pretty nice career. He did have a good career and he released a statement afterwards, kind of saying he, he meant no disrespect. A, a lot of the the bills teammates were were upset by that Lorenzo. Alexander talked about it a little bit. Afterwards, but it was straight. I just, I mean, look, you go through a week of practice. You suit up on game day. I think you've made a commitment to finish the game if you're healthy. I think that's, that's fair to say, yeah, we'll try against them, but, but that's that's a little bit absurd, especially. I don't know what he thought was going to happen in this game. Like I don't know if he thought the the bills were going to go out there and just just hammered the chargers that did not happen. What did happen though? Is the Rams went out and. Hammered the gardens, which was not surprising all no, not at all. I, in fact we can use this little spot Rams cardinals to analyze what I said about that movie. It's a late coretec. That's the name of the movie. Okay. I, I was gonna say, Shelby Royston just just texted me. Our producer saying, that's first time you reference the something pop culture that that I had no idea what you're talking about. I can't tell that's a compliment or an insult to me, but. Rams Rams shutting out the cardinals not a surprise at all. The, you know, the Ramsey always seem to fulfill expectations. I don't think I've, I can't remember when the Rams came out and played below their ability. Yeah, that's a, that's a good point because even the look, the playoff loss last year to the falcons, it was kind of like a couple of special fumbles. It kinda got sloppy, but yeah, that's the only example I can think, which is the worst example to be to have it in the playoffs. But the Rams always they come out and take care of their business. It didn't is job there. Yeah, obviously, thirty four enough or whatever. It was. Obviously, one more thing that that was the fourteen games that we just covered there. Josh Gordon, he's going to be released or if they can trade him, the Browns will trade him. He is done there. He saw Antonio Calloway do some pretty nice things Tonio Calloway very talented has sort of his own. Issues off the field historically. But I'd, I mean, what? What do you do with Josh Gordon? At this point, he's got gotta, get his life straightened out. It just seems like I, it's it's so difficult to bring him in and say, well, here's someone we can rely on. Oh, no, you can't say that, but you and I don't know what he's got going on a lot of times when it's it's usually in these kind of deals. It's not as simple as is missing his marijuana test or is failing for, you know, it's more complex and difficult than that. I don't know if that's true here, but that's usually how it is actually going behind the scenes. So I don't know what you have with Josh Gordon. I would make a run at them and find the Dallas Cowboys though. If I'm if I'm gonna play the way I've been playing Gordon's from Texas for what that's worth these from Houston. But I would think I'd throw caution to the wind and make a run at them, but it's totally guessing Gary because we don't know what's really going on with them. Yeah, I'd look. I tell everyone. Ben Baskin did a really good profile on Josh Gordon. Last year go read that and you can sort of you can read between the lines on on sort of the the situation he's in. The only thing I thought of and when when the Vikings drafted dalvin coke, a lot of people were saying away from and cook. One of the reasons the Vikings, like the idea of bring down mccook up there is because they were sort of getting him away from what he was near in Miami, and some of the people who were really influencing him in a negative way. I know Texas is in a big state, but I, I would be kind of fearful to dab, Josh Gordon down there for four personal for for his personal health, but he's got some things to sort out and he's still young. He's twenty seven. Let's hope he gets there, but I don't know. I don't know. That's gonna that's ever going to happen. Let's wrap it up. Andy. The thing of the week would you like to go? I will go. I'm going to say New England's road uniforms. I love the road uniforms. I love the color distribution, and I love him more when you put them next to Jacksonville's home uniforms, which really, this is my point. Those new Jaguar uniforms, look like freaking practice jerseys. There's there's no stripes outlined or anything. I hate me like Jaguars it's it looks like it's wrong. It looks like it's a training camp game. No, I like the simplicity of the, you know, it's a game. I mean, Hillary had the game atmosphere. I, I liked their uniforms and look. They fixed the helmets that's even better. So I liked the helmet fix, but we will never never agree on the uniforms. Oh my God, I would totally if I was designing uniform, I just have one color and the numbers are different color, and that's it no strike, you know, that's how an eight year old wood design it. And that's probably designed Jacksonville's this one. And then the last one to the Jaguars have been all all in on on convoluted uniforms, and then they've gone all in on on just. Nothing are the other way you think. I like the the minimalist approach to it to breed this uniform with their last uniform, and then they'll look like an NFL team. Whatever that produces, I'm my thing of the week is going to be while he's a man. I mean the of it to Matt ever flew the defensive coordinator for the colts. I don't know if we're gonna be talking about this in the same way when November December runs around or comes around, but. Look colts really undermanned on defense and diva they've held up fine. The first two weeks, they they put more pressure on Andy Dalton than the ravens did when they face that Bengals line on Thursday night, they really shut down the Washington run game on on Sunday, and he's doing a nice job with the with the really undermanned unit. So so far I agree my sense from watching them as they're going to have an over achieving defensive line and they're gonna have issues at linebacker, and maybe that de line can hide some of those issues at linebacker now. Yeah, so far, so good there in Indy. That's going to be a rapper. Our show. Thanks to today's sponsors. And if oh, game passenger recruiter without them, they wouldn't let us do the show. So please support them the way they support us. Thanks to our researchers read foster and Ryan Taylor for making a sound smart. And thank you to producer Shelby Royston as well as all the folks that canes, thirteen, who make a sound good. Most of all thank you to you guys for listening. To this episode of the QB Monday morning NFL podcasts, you really are the best. We will be back Thursday with a deep dive show, and we will have the mini mail bag every week. Send those questions. 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Willie McGinest on Josh Gordon to the Patriots & MJD on the drama in Pittsburgh

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Willie McGinest on Josh Gordon to the Patriots & MJD on the drama in Pittsburgh

"Dave damage, Schick football, broom, grab available on apple podcasts and at fell dot com slash fees. Now, here's your host damage. Shit, I love football fans. Welcome to the Dave damasec football program presented by old navy b- I f. d. built in damn, it's a big deal. That's while and you know who else is a big deal. A man seated to my immediate left. It's the longtime Jacksonville, Jaguar, the Oakland raider for one year, but in his heart did extends much further back into his history than that. And of course a UCLA Bruin during a dark time for southern California college football, it's Marie Jones drew everybody. Wait. I forgot to say he is. He's also the voice of your Los Angeles Rams are going to the Super Bowl now. Hello. Say that I was talk about the good. The Jags topped AFC sixteen is actually, you know, you gotta go to an offers. Go sixteen. Oh, so we'll see how it goes. But then the Rams. Now is your Super Bowl pick, but let's be, let's not jive MAURICE. You made that out of self interest because you know, well, yes, I one, I do want it to be true to backs up. You know, when them winning the way they winning backs up my my claim, I knew the Rams are gonna be really good. I knew Jacksonville going to be phenomenal. What I did know is that Blake Bortles was gonna throw touchdowns like that. I well, you should've talked to your old pal, Dave, because Dave told you, Blake, Bortles was gonna be sneaky. Decent nod. Say, wasn't I knew he was going to be good, but to throw the ball the way he through and make the decisions he made against the patriots. If he plays like that, which I don't think they're going to allow him to win for Neg is back. They're gonna try to close games out but to no, he can do that now as a different weapon to that offense. So it's going to be crazy. By the way we have Willie mcginest whose patriots loss to your Jaguars on Sunday coming up in a little bit. He has some great stuff. I know this because I've already spoken to him about it as great stuff on Josh Gordon, and he evaluates the Pittsburgh Steelers and. He dips his his little carrot in your ranch. I know. Well, listen, you know, gyms drew wavered. You come up with that one. Sounds like something somebody from like Mississippi would say, hey, now, gentlemen doesn't dip as carried into another more than what they say down there as he, he farms, his own land is what they would say down there, Karen ranch. All right, their way she's against weighed in on it and it's really good stuff in so stick around for that. But I also want to get your thoughts on it. And of course I blame your Jaguars for one of the things that willy and I, we're talking about Josh Gordon, Josh gore. I mean, you're Jags don't house the pats on Sunday. The patriots aren't as desperate to go out and get this. I mean, again, I think this league comes back to to being very simple. You need players to win, right? You need talented guys. Now, some guys come with baggage, some don't, but when you have talent on your roster, you don't want to get rid of that and the patriots are. They've been looking. I wanna say there was a report out this. They've had twenty eight transacts wide receiver since the draft or the new year. So I mean, they're trying to figure out what's going on. They need help with that. Receiving core and Bill knows that and he knows any needs players. But then you look teams like the Buffalo Bills who traded away everyone. I mean Reggie raglan all these guys. I mean, they've traded away talent, and then they have a replace a yet. Right? So it shows that this league is about players. Coaches do a great job again, you prepare, but yet that players out there with the Bility's to go out there and make plays boy, the bills. As a side note at are not just a bad team. They are lining up to be in the Super Bowl air, like top five bad team. Well, I'll say this much. And will you have poor shady for sure. But when a player retires at halftime speaks more to your culture of your team than it does anything else? What did you think of that? If you ever heard of anything even close to that. Listen, my, I've always my biggest thing and people like hall, you're lying. You would never do this look. I rather if you don't feel that you can play do not come out of this locker room because it's a very dangerous game and you need to have everyone on the field. Once those ten does cross those lines, you all have to be ready to go. So I appreciate the fact that he's, I look, I can't do this anymore and I don't wanna go out and get hurt. I, I already or. You know, I appreciate that, but getting house late in the afternoon. The other party is like anquan Boldin did this last year. We don't talk about that. He was in buffalo for like a week or like a couple of days, and it was like, you know what? I'm okay. I'm gonna go ahead and retire. So this isn't new. I mean, Greenwich knew that he did halftime, but there's already player. There's always there's already something where a player went up there and something's going on up in that buffalo area for him the not, you know, for him to retire. Yeah, that is weird. But for the record though you you shouldn't cast aspersions glass houses and all that you did after all retire during the draft your draft. Remember you told us before that you told your agent when lend l. white. Got drafted. I'm ready to go to McDonalds. Star worker started career, their own a couple lay. You know, after a couple years, but you know, I was talked off the cliff came out of retirement. You gotta do that. Some Brett farve gets too much gets too much credit for that. That was actually marinas move. I wasn't it. There's a lot of players that have retired than bounce back and they'll situations enough about the bills. I don't wanna talk about that anymore. Let's talk about the good stuff and your Jags for real MAURICE. I mean, the talk about Bortles. The thing to me that comes across on a human level, watching him as he seems kind of fearless against the patriots, and it's the same thing that Joe flacco weirdly possesses against the patriots. I would be, you know, even if I were made it to the NFL, it's still look across the sideline. Be like, well, that's ballot check. He's. I mean, he's going to do something to treat me that thing that thing for Blake is they've simplified often so much for right. Think about it that he's been with his offense coordinator for four years. I was the knock on him was that he was not three years in grasping the NFL playbook, but you don't need this big playbook. Sometimes you'll need to run twenty-five plays into. Run them over and over and over again and get reps at them. I think they've done that and then to in training camp Jalen Ramsey we went out there for under inside trying to gain my interview Jalen Ramsey and he said, Blake, last year wouldn't throw the ball at us. He would wouldn't try and practice and now he does it. And so he was he has confidence in his receivers, and then as playmakers he's gonna, you know, be able to make plays. And so they, you know, you have to go through some dark stuff to come out on top. And I think that's what Blake Boers understands like now. Okay. I'm not going to Jalen Ramsey AJ in his defense every every Sunday only practice. So I need to try some things in practice so that come the game time. We'll see if it works, and I mean he completed. I don't know how many no-balls against the patriots. It was amazing to see that and the receivers are out there making plays for. Yeah, they definitely are side note quickly, and it's karma generally won. The keeling. Coal catch was great, but you can only make that in the twenty first century because of those gloves. Right. Nobody. I mean, you would the reason you've never seen anything like the Odell catch and what's followed it is because those guys have glow. We gotta get. They have to remember yet the big hand NFL players from nineteen eighty big Ann's on assuming not as big as these guys. I mean, there's hands that are put it this way. Deandre hobbies like a four x glove or something like that. Like that's crazy to me how big your hands are were x or l. so four x has to be at least up to here. That's a, that's a hand like I can. I can barely grip football, they'll do. They're catching the one hand. It takes skill, but yet a glove helps do I have bigger hands than Marie snow that would not even close? What do you mean now don't you give me a scowl like that and not even VP. I want to try some of those football plane gloves and see just how can we can we talk though because he's beating around the Bush where we where we made big news week ago Marie? She were all over ESPN and f s Lonnie were all over it here there and everywhere we were all over it, but now lady on probably won't talk to me ever again till. Is that true? Just playing what you know about you more or less represented? His point of view. I thought it was. I actually think it was a sunny one. The first question though is, is his absence at all related to the Steelers being, oh one and one because on the list of concerns that we've seen so far with this with this scuffling bunch is the running back. I mean, James Connors fumbled did cost them. Victory. Let's be clear about that. And we want. Cleveland, but I don't think you would point at James Connors. I, I don't think it's the James Connor, but I think maybe I'm Bill is going to give you a little bit more in some of those like against city to start off twenty one in the whole. The you'll do that will be on Bill out there, but I don't think his this is this is this is where and I must say this because I want I want people to really understand like how crazy what happened in Pittsburgh really is like I am more shocked and was more appalled by players talking about his money, then I was vantera Davis Quinton at halftime. Is that true? No question. I mean, I save liars. No, real. I've seen players shut it down. Not necessarily quit was saying, look like this, it, you know, I'm gonna try to, you know, but shut it down. I've still I like to this is like the first time I've ever seen someone talk about someone else's money like I'll open it. So that's that they're started something right that started something and if you win week one, I think you're fine. It's out of the way, but now that you're tied and then you lost. And now all of a sudden people are starting to come in and try to start attack the Steelers. They have to figure out a way to to rally around each other and get back out there like Antonio Brown. The media's kinda come after him right now, and I haven't seen anyone really step in the back him up as a player, Greg, I'm I'm, I don't follow the Pittsburgh students like that, but no one's come out and said like, like Antonio's my brother it is. We're going to go with him. Antonio Brown actually did, but now Antonio Brown, you know he did that at first. Yeah, with beyond. But now he's getting a tax come out, said anything to his defense. And so I think you know, Mike Tomlin. This is one thing I love about Mike Tomlin is that you know he can relate to all the players in that locker room. He can relate to them and. He'll find a way to bring those guys in. But right now it's, you know, you're you're, oh one and one. It's funny to me because this is the melodrama that is the Pittsburgh Steelers for the last couple of years now and Mike Tomlin and remember Tonio Brown in the locker room doing the FaceTime, FaceTime saying that he did. And I mean, this isn't a new thing and also there's a lack of discipline, the excuse. You keep hearing and coach Tomlin's area of expertise defense. And you know, in the early parter, I would say probably for the first seven years or so of him being the head coach, he was deferential to dick lebeau, but this is now his defense and I don't just mean from a distance. I mean, literally he more and more wants to use the Tampa two or some some rare reation on it. He's the one installing it and what's further he has Kevin Colbert's ear. He's he's working to bring in the guys he wants in there. Oh, hear about his obad misc- bad communication out on the field. Garbage all, say this some in the league in the league where you spend your money is where you're going to get the best production, right? So in Jacksonville, if you look at their defense, there's hundreds of millions of dollars all through that yet. And that's why they play well, if you look at Pittsburgh, whereas all the money, right well, said a week ago on offense, right? And we can't all be tied up in three guys again, if you went, that's that's where your money's allocated. Then defensively, you just have to try to hold people on the end zone like, all right, this we're going to do right our best. We're gonna try to hold, but you guys got to score points. And so it's the same way. If you look at the ram, they kind of spread their money out throughout, but they're certain places like that. Defensive line is making a lot of those three interior guys are making. A lot of money didn't have rookies on the outside. Our first year I deal. I deal guys on outside corners, log down the franchise player. I deal guy linebackers I deal guys except for baron. I mean, so they've spread their allocate their money differently on that side offense, they've allocate. Fid really to both receivers. A running back and tackle as it. Everyone else is still in their first year deal. So you know, you just have to figure out ways to do it. If you're going to have these star players like in Pittsburgh where you have stars superstars defend, they're going to have to score points at one games consistently while I can't blame the defense, the thing that jumps to mind and I don't. I'm not cavalier and saying this, but how important was Ryan Shays ear. I knew he was my goodness the entire thing. The defense was fine, but since he went out, it has been a train wreck when they have to find the linebacker that can run the middle of the field, right? Find a guy that can run well that that's the disconnect. Talk about miscommunication. Forget what happens in sixty in sixty minutes on Sundays. What about Colbert and Tomlin they didn't seem to address will they did if you're gonna if you wanna. I mean, was Morgan. Burnett was the was the plan and maybe it's still will be this over the whole. Got to remember you. You're trying to the big thing last year was a secondary, so they went on to dress a secondary. Now they have to address. Linebackers you only address so much. I get it at a time, right? That hybrid Morgan Burnett, Terrel Edmonds thus far has not yielded much. I mean, was Kelsey running all by himself down the middle. Hopefully it works out, but you have to give them time to do it. You went your and then they change defensive schemes to. So that takes a lot as well. But then the day Pittsburgh, we people going to keep when they, it's like it's like sharks when they smell blood, people are gonna come into tack and they fill it right now in Pittsburgh. There was lashing on thirteen and three this year. Starting off with the tie in a loss. They have to find a way to get going and get back in the race. It's still there is still division to win. Now, let me say this though. I let me say this, I, it is their division to win, but Cincinnati's not playing with a lot of people in the Brown since and I told no, I told people about the Browns and they add Owen two or a one and one right are better than most teams that are to know some of these to not, but they're not playoff relevant. I don't know what. What? What? What if the Browns get on a heater? 'cause I got the jets this week. Then they have another Africa who their other teams, but they're starting that that. They come out and end up winning two or three games and these next four games, it's going to be a problem because then they're going to believe because their defense is flying around like no other, I kind of agree. I will never let go the fact. I don't care if Denzel ward got a couple of picks in week one or not. If they had Bradley Chubb with Myles Garrett, it would just be a both of them. It would be a bear style thing with the bears. Look like right now is crazy. All of a sudden it ebbs and flows, and the Jag showed the way last year and the Rams really tuned up there. The Denver Broncos the Broncos are back that bears front. Seven looks devastating. It seems like defense, at least in the early part of the season inspired a Patrick Mahomes and in spite of the the huge point totals that we're seeing in certain places, I feel like defense wins championships. That's only true some of the time. I think this is one of those years where that seems like the dominant defenses are starting to rise back again. Do they have to just to the rules of the game, you know? So because of the way the league is kind of Aaron towards passing and all this, you start to get these hybrid linebacker. Jovan Smith who can run receivers or miles Jack, who run with receivers and also stay in the box. And you see that what the Rams they've kind of built their team off of that. That style, when we going back to Pittsburgh, they're trying to build a defense that will catch it when I mean catch like, we're not going to attack you aggressively. We're not going to do all these crazy blitzes. We're just gonna sit there and wait for you to make a mistake, and we're going to capitalize off. They just no one just made a mistake it. Let's just the bad. This is the bad part about it. Yeah, maybe that's a bad bad as the focus on quarterbacks in the NFL is so great. Now that quarterbacks, the average quarterback is better. It's sort of like movies. I say, I say that about movies all the time, even if you don't like a movie that you see in twenty eighteen the production value is is so great that it's gonna look better than a movie. You thought was pretty good in nineteen eighty nine. It just as better things looking quarterbacks are now better. The average QB is better than the average QB was fifteen twenty years. I mean, how many teams I've just I've just an abject -ly awful QB who's costing them games maybe six, eight teams. No, I don't know is every every quarterback has its flaws or has their flaws and you have to as a defence like, so I'll give you a great example. I was talking with someone one of the coaches at the Rams after the game. And I was like, there's only two ways of play evens. At least I learned there's a defense carries the sames and there's a defense that runs the flats now. Also there's probably four quarterbacks that can throw consistently outside the number. So when you're doing outside the numbers, I'm talking about out routes comebacks and they can get that ball there them consistently. Would that being said, why would I then not play defense that covers the inside rouse the same defense, right? Because I'll give you those throws. Those are some of the hardest throws, but you have a lot of defenses or divas a coordinators who come in and they're like, we're gonna protect the flats. We're gonna make them throw it up here like to me, no, I'm gonna force it though. The hard throwing twenty twenty percents because these quarterbacks, they all don't have the armed to make it happen. So it may seem, I think it's because the style of defense is why these quarterbacks that they're getting better. Right, if that makes sense. Right. So it's not because they're actually better. It's just people are trying to attack them different, definitely completion percentages, and it goes all the way back to the Bill Walsh days. The completion percentages are obviously much higher their ten percent or greater than what they were. Twenty years ago and Tom Brady the the alleged greatest of all time. And he's in the top two at worst top three at worst. Let's say 'cause Montana's still. But anyway, we'll touch Tom Brady is the greatest of all time Rogers, you know is now everybody agrees eight years after Michelle. Most rounted also dominant. I mean, there's all news he's talented, but he don't have enough ships to be dominant. Jay Cutler was was talented as well. Yeah, but you're right. Aaron Rodgers is actually coming through. It's not like it's not like he. Five Super Bowls to one and I love eratures k. so that's why that's why he's the goat because he has the he has the tennis rings one more like that. He's looking for that. Which one was it that he was trying to find the one? Oh, the guy hadn't. Right, right, right. But by the way about that Thanos another movie ish analogy for you is the Steelers are running the risk of become of getting Thanos, Antonio Brown trade me. I don't think that's gonna not what I really think he was. You know, first of all, remember this to be a great player in this league. Right? Your personality has a match that, especially what he does for the Pittsburgh Steelers, his personality is more aggressive alleys out there. So when he when he does feel bad and people bathe him, he's going to bug back, which is fine. I completely agree with that. Willian. I did did a lot about the the mental makeup of guys like you and him, and anyone who's going to thrive at the highest level in professional sports, which very few human beings have the physical ability div get close to. Yes, you have a huge ego if that's the case. But let's say the Steelers go now. I think this Tampa game is big for them on loose night because they go Tampa. Then they go, I forget the. Then they host Baltimore. Then the falcons, then they go to cincy. I believe. I mean, they could be, oh five and one they could be one, four and one if they get to that, you really understand. You know, every player doesn't have the grasp you do and and you're in touch with levian. Is there any concern or thought that if it gets to that point that the Steelers will then say, I mean for this mess, we really don't need Levy. And at this point. Then he doesn't get his money or do they deal him? Are they able to run. When money does he not get, he can't. They're not signed tomorrow and start making a million dollars a week. Yeah, he could or he can. You know, again, he's still weighing the option. He's weighing to option of, is it worse? Okay. And granted to a lot of people, like if you use money, those those type of numbers to the average person like, oh my God, I would be in there right now and you're right, you may do it, but let me break. So let me break down to the to the average person here who are listeners who were talking just regular money. Right. So let's say if you're working to job and you're getting paid, twelve bucks an hour. You're doing twenty five dollars an hour worth of work though. And then you see Bob over here who hasn't done as much work as you you have. But all of a sudden he's making thirty bucks an hour. So you're getting your twelve doing all the work and Bob's getting thirty doing, you know, doing maybe some a little bit more than most as in this situation would all he's saying is I'm trying to. I need to maximize my ability. I hear that VP. Is that assembly a metaphor or a analogy Marie? It's an analysis made. That's fine, but it doesn't hold water for me because even in that situation, what do you think the average person can just go and be like, hey, I'm doing more work than the guy in the cubicle. Next to me, you should pay you. Show you, the boss will be should, hey, sit back down, you'll you'll have filed, should go up there and state your your clay. You share and show, hey, listen, this is what I'm doing. I need to get compensated a little bit more for this. If you granted a lot of people that's uncomfortable for people to go up to their bosses, they, hey, you're not paying me enough Levy on doing that. And that's not. I've rod on average people holding out. I've seen it before it. I'm leaving. Vaughn Davis. I'm going home. Before I have friends who have been in places where people are just lay. I'm out of here. Do walkout happens everyday life. The boss chase them out to the parking lot blow. Whoa, come on. Let's let's you know. Take a chill pill or the most bigger this. Normally they descended up the rank and this and emails up to the top, and then the top try to figure it out. But you know, he went to the top. And so this is my thing. Hard work here. I want you to try that. Send Roger note. Not Roger. You gotta who's the top here? Wenzel you can get any higher up in Roger Baraja really don't deal with us like he's he's more on the other side. He's not on the network side. So it's really this high, see the NFL to since we're going there. I think as Roger, I think there's three people right. I don't know the exact name. I know there's a network, the head of network, the head of marketing and advertisement then I think it's like, you know, because if I was we'd be doing so completely different. Then it'd be like Troy Vinton the football. So I like those three. So they, yes, they still report to Roger, but they kinda head different sectors and breaks off. But going back to the lady, I'm Bill situation. He's not. He's not getting fine right now any of that, all he is losing. You know the potential earning eight hundred thousand but a week, but is that eight hundred thousand a week worth more than getting a deal in the free in the. A free market that may be, you know, more or closer towards David Johnson's deal. I don't know because John is making thirty million in three years, right? But isn't David Johnson? I mean, Leslie, what is you you? You know, he tweeted out the monocle Inder after week, one Utah to him and reported that he was watching the Steelers and rooting for them and for kinda. That's great. What he really should be rooting for out of south interest is redacted Johnson to get a go in here because if David Johnson's vote, I've you're saying, but you can see the simple logic. Why are we gonna pay anybody that kind of money when we get by. I'll tell you this. This is the. That's great. That's great now. So why give San Bradford twenty million dollars what he's doing so so that so so if I pay big band a bunch of money and he goes in stinks up, right? I mean, obviously, I think what number. How many, how many quarterbacks and this is where people, this is where we get the issue, how many quarterbacks are worth that money that they're making not many is actually the only the pieces that are worth the pieces that are worth. The money are the ones that they're throwing the ball tour hand the ball to because it helps them out. I remember a long time ago. We're talking about air Rogers, a law. Maybe I want to say it was like two thousand eleven or twelve. He came out verbally and he never talks and was like, we need a running game. We have. We can't run the ball, we can't win. And that's your greatest quarterback of all time saying that you need players around, yes, you, Aaron Rodgers able to win some games tied. Did a great job plan the the Vikings and all those things, but you need players around him. That's why they went and got Jimmy Graham. That's why they drafted three running backs. I mean, they're trying to build talent around this dude, understand that he can't do it on his own. I agree, but I think that actually has to do with the second and third contract when you start getting into the level that Rogers and Brady and. RAF burger and guys like that or are filling. I mean, Rodgers actually makes the guys around him. I mean, we've seen that over and over again, Greg Jennings we'll see what Jordy Nelson ultimately does with their car. Donald driver moves on. Jennings guys, those guys move on. They tend to fizzle out as do guys who leave Tom Brady, and they're only so many guys that make the guys around better regarding rothlisburger though it is interesting because what started this whole mess was Ryan Scarpinato formerly of Steelers, PR saying that AB is lucky to played with Rothlisberger. Now this is something that our colleagues James Jones and Reggie Wayne said about a month ago, diminishing ABC greatness as they try to rank Jerry Rice rating him against Jerry Rice, got the with Joe Montana and Steve Young. I mean, he's levian bell making rob burger in Antonio, Brown betters, Antonio Brown, making rob. Would you like the Steelers and not because I'm a Steelers fan, but because legitimately most telling early all hit you with with two different two different answers. One when you draft will and you drive great players. Guess what you gotta pay him, you gotta pay them. This is what it comes down to. So stop drafting will if you don't wanna pay Orla guys, walk out the door. One of the two, there's only there's only way that lie. The Steelers didn't draft a running back in the Twenty-eight draft, knowing that this was looming on there. You gotta you gotta talk to them about, I think they had. They felt like they had some other issue. They thought lady on was still coming in if they didn't get a date. That's exactly why the teammates. That's why you can't eat. That's why that's why they've talked about is money that I mean that's clearly ever talked about a man's money. It doesn't matter how set you are you an adult. You get out of your feeling when you don't do that, I would be, you know what? But you also advocated that if you're in a cubicle and you're doing more work than the guy next to you and all that a magic being the offense, a line and going through the stink and hot August, and by ounce. Vermont, Rome falls got their second deal then. All right, but on Ken, but just the magin though you do that with the assumption that are at twenty six is going to do what he did last year, and then we're going to get on our role and we're going to pick up where we left off, hopefully washing off the stink of the Jaguars. Wade. He's not call month only thought was I wish I wish I wish I wish they had that much energy to do all that. And April May June July when he was trying to negotiate a deal and that he was, they thought he was going to show up, but they didn't have thought they didn't think that the Pittsburgh Steelers gonna give him a get him a good deal. They thought he was going to be like, oh, this is you gotta take what they give you while they give him a good deal until the Todd Gurley deal is announced it wasn't gonna do better. It wasn't a, it was a good deal. It wasn't a good deal. As soon as Todd Gurley sign his, that means it wasn't a good deal. But neither here, nor there Pittsburgh has -bility in the talent to make a turnaround that is have to figure out a way to get to circle the wagons, pick Tampa Saint. Tampa greatest quarterback in all America. Really. You think he's going. Right? Yeah, they'll turn around after this, but I think this is this is Tampa Monday night. It's gonna be hot. It's gonna be. They're gonna be, oh two in one, and they're going to take the ravens down and the falcons down and the bungles incensio down. I think they'll take both the ravens involvement. I don't know about the Bengals if you had to say one, you had to put your right leg as a bet on this and don't give me jive a ballot. Both you have to gamble your right leg on this. The Rams are in the Super Bowl or the Jags are in the Super Bowl. Are you more confident about more confident is the Jags they have easier road. The Rams still have the Vikings saints, you know, eagles now with winds back a tough road. That's all good stuff is always Marie Jones drew. I will let him go there. So many more things to do about the game of life, but Meritas very busy watching yon Sanders prime time you ever heard him and he's always getting calls even for it. That's fancy is the great MAURICE Jones drew everybody now let's turn it over to another great. His name's Willie mcginest. He wore the number fifty five for the Cleveland Browns and the New England Patriots. All right here it is now time for the week to exit interview and seated across from me, Browns legend, patriots legend. USC legend. Willie mcginest what's happened in fifty five. I'm chilling chilling aria to a football kind of excited a lot of surprises, but most importantly, I'm here chocolate my guy. Well, I, I love our opportunities to kits and I don't want to put any pressure on you last week. You don't Jones drew sat in here for the exit interview of week one and made a lot of national news talking about Levy and bell. Now here we said, the New England Patriots the same agent, right? Is that true? Is that the end think so there's an in there? What? Let's start with this. What number do you think Josh Gordon should wear with the patriots twelve off the books. Twelve is definitely off the book. So to probably be eighties number or eighties or maybe like I dunno, like eighteen or some can't wait. Can't take thirteen because I think that's Philip door. Sad. That's already gone. Fifteen is. Now, Julian Etem. Sorry. Sorry Joe's and might be free because Garoppolo. He may go higher. He may go to a true receiver number. All right. We'll wait and say, if the deal gets done, let's what we'll wait and see about that. React to what you saw on Sunday in Duval county. What were what was your takeaway that game me nervous because I know how dangerous that team is at home, especially if they're playing from ahead. So going into it, I think everybody with the patriots in the coaches. Everybody knows you can't dig yourself a hole with that type of defense. It'll be tough to climate of. They play a certain way. They get aggressive. They are aggressive, the matchups they were you. And if you can play a certain way and keep the game even until you get to the third fourth quarter and then things start to happen. That's the way you play them. If you let them jump out on you with that defense is tough, you know, to fight your way back in the game. And I saw that I saw them get into a situation. Offensively where they couldn't overcome. You know what was going on, don't say in response to this, we'll have to wait and see this is I'm just going to say, and then you say yes or no. Are you excited to see the Rams Jaguars in Super Bowl, fifty three. If that is a Super Bowl would be excited to see that if that's if that's a Super Bowl. Yeah, will be. That would be a great superbeing. That's likely. No, it's too early to say it's too early already a year from you already know. Mattel, you how feel it's week to like the teams that are one on one or all one and one like your Stiller's. You get excited and say, oh, the season's over no veteran teams learn how to whether storms this better don't seem to be castle. I want to. I went to a Super Bowl at all went to. So you can't tell me like it can't happen. Started off the season. Two, super. The patriots reacted differently. I write about us. We'll react to good teams come to. Gather, they make adjustments. They figure out what's wrong, nobody panics because it's early and mid season. You start to see those teams game momentum get better and teams that jumped out early. Like we saw a lot of teams last year started just whether whether and get worse. And I mean that's the sign of good coaching, gray, coaching veteran teams, they I'm not saying there's a switch. You can hit on the wall, a grand you going to start playing great. But I, I will say, is they understand how to overcome certain things within the first quarter of the season, which we're not even there yet. We've talked a lot about this that for I mean, it's not fair to really put anybody on the patriots level in the twenty first century, but the Broncos and then the Steelers would probably be the two biggest rivals for the patriots coming out of the AFC. This millennial two, I will say Baltimore's big. Yeah. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, absolutely. But the use. Sense from where you sit and you, are you understand what goes on inside the building with ballot check and you and I have discussed philosophical differences between the way the patriots liked approach things one by one and how the Steelers under Tomlin liked from what you can tell. And I maybe it's a little unfair because you're not in that building. Do you sense that the dysfunction off the field is impacting what's happening on the field who's who's to blame that? The Steelers continue to years, remove twenty months or thereabouts since your patriots whipped up on the Steelers in the AFC title game and in the post game in the locker room. All the Steelers. Defenders were saying a lot of those touchdowns Chris, HOGAN run an open miscommunication in a lot of miscommunication in there. We're still talking about miss the chiefs game. Whose fault is that talent? Is that coaching who will one really good, so great. A lot at you a lot of formations, personnel groups, all and they do it. Time and time again. So you got to be prepared for that. And if you're not big plays happen, things like that happen. What we saw. To answer your question directly. It starts with the coaches, the coaches they got to define the game plan in his system, and if it's too much going in, then they gotta take things out of the game plan. They have to make sure that everybody's on the same page. So you don't have those communication breakdowns all those mental errors because those big plays and touchdowns in games they're really do. So I think in order to get guys the play fast and react and not think I'm not saying dumb it down, put guys in position where they can play fast. And if you got too much that week, then you gotta take things out teams that give give give you a lot of personnel groups and formations and shifts emotions, all those different things that the due to see what you're in, you go more vanilla and you make them beat you one one, our guys against your guys. When you try to get fancy in dot up all these different, you know schemes and things against them, then they're gonna be breakdowns communication sometime. Doesn't happen across the board. You have to be great communicators, like you said, that's one thing we took pride in. That's one thing I know the, oh, Pittsburgh Steelers defense took pride, and those guys are all on the same age defensively. That's why it was so good for so long. So it starts with the coaching and then it starts with the players by an in. You gotta put more time in. If you know you're planning against the team like that, you got to do everything in your power that week to come in before practice after practice, get your groups together in rapid rapid rapid because it will pay off in a game. If you're not doing that, then it's not going to happen on Sunday. Interesting. And it just endlessly makes my my head spin because I don't think it's a talent issue at this point, but I got some good players. Yeah, defensively, yes, certainly, let's move on to this. Oh, by the way, one more thing about the patriots and Josh Gordon, Josh Gordon with the patriots is. Is that a team that can take down the Jacksonville Jaguars? Well, they already be the Jaguars without joss Gordon. So if you get Julia element back, I would say they'll go, you know, that's that's a good matchup and they've already beat them. So I always say yes, would Josh Gordon think with a healthy, Josh Gordon that's buying into a system that's one hundred percent dedicated to going in and giving his all makes any team in the NFL better because he's a rare talent, but you gotta make sure he's on the same page. He's putting in the work, you have to put resources around them. You have to golfing with football. So that's all he's doing. And when you put them in the right environment, maybe this is a good change. Maybe it's a fresh change. Maybe he needs to be around new faces. You go into a place where everybody from the grounds keepers to the best guy on the team has held accountable, and everybody's tweeted the same. So you going into our say an. An environment where you're going to going to have pressure on you to do the right thing, but it's going to be fair across the board and you're going to have those resources from ownership who cares about players outside of the uniform who tries to help them in, make sure they're set up for success. And if they're dealing with issues off to fill, the issues will give you those resources or put their arms around and try to help you if you want that help. So I would say when I heard that he was being released, the patriots was wanted to teams. I was like, we had some players that were little outspoken in the pass. That's has some character so-called issues come to that team and play great, not have an issue or interesting because people often say, I'm surprised Bella check would look at Josh Gordon type. That doesn't seem to be what he -ticipant from from his players. They brought in Michael Floyd. They brought in Kenny Britt, it's not like they're all the way down the line Dylan who people. Was an issue. He was a great teammate, right? And he played great. Even Randy moss never had an issue, you know. So you can go down the line. Not always perfect. You're not gonna get everybody, right. They tried that with Ainsworth that didn't work out, experiment, go, it didn't work. So you're not going to you're not batting two thousand, but you're close, you're close. That's the interesting lesson. Not. What their background is. It's what you guys with the patriots seem to have done more often than not with those questionable guys and turning them into productive guys. What about what's happening? The team that either way it's a reverse mcginest Gordon goes from the Browns to the major. It's interesting probably have better record than I did. I don't. I don't like your modest. I was ten and six. My best you browse was ten and six, so him going from nebr- patriots. He definitely will have a better record. It probably hit the playoffs. I hit my playoffs in three years with the Browns, but we gave them a ten, six thousand good enough with the AFC was new in Deir gander Sohn, right? We're balling. Yeah, that's right. What do you think about just a couple of things real quick? What do you think about the say quandary that is that is mounting in the Tri state area there? I think you saw ally look lousy on on Sunday night. A lot of people that's not the first time people have said maybe lies a little past his his prime. Now. Do you think that they should aired in not taking a quarterback at number two is good. Saquon looks up think they're trying to win now. And when you get a young guy in everybody's not going to come in and play at a certain level that what to expect certain guys take a little bit more time and you see some of the young guys now that are starting struggle bit. Everybody's not, you know, playing great ball or, hey, we're saying we is going to take his team to the championship. While I will say is you gotta give you lie chance. He's proven shown and deserve another opportunity with the right pieces then have an office of line. They're still struggling. They spent money, they move around, they're still struggling. You put pieces around him on the outside. You go in draft, Barclay a guide. I can take some of the pressure off ally. We already seen that. You got OB j you extent him one of the best players in the league. You gotta tied in Evan Ingraham another playmaker short to eat immediate passing game. You got shepherd, you got guys that can help them. Now they gotta do a better job at executing, right. Some of the things that happen against the Cowboys was elementary plays that happened games and stunts up front corner and safety blitzes that you should be able to pick up the balls not going down to field. And this offense is an exciting because. Alight doesn't really have that time. So what is he doing? He's getting it off the Barclay. They're running Barclay. That's his options that are getting hit and getting sac, which I don't know how many times he got sacked four to five times the other night dump it to Barkley. So they've got to figure out how to help this office of line which is run the ball and get the ball out of allies, hands fast as crazy. The Dallas Cowboys are not the two thousand ravens. They're not the twenty seventeen Jackson, but they're all solid. They're solid note. I what I said that all AUSSIE. I love tank Lawrence, I think he is a high end pass rusher schon Lee and now Vander ash the nice store going on with the bachelor all young. I liked. Got Christmas, are back there. Coaching them up and now they're in their second year. Understanding. Environ- Jones is a guy who's elevated is gaming like you gotta give guys a chance to develop their over and over it. And I said, you watch that's going to be a top ten defenses year. Did I not. Whoa, you jumping up top ten. Okay. I said they're going to be. I said, the Cowboys defense was going to be strong. What have you throw Earl Thomas back there. We'll worry about that at a later day. Why are it's? It really is interesting, and it does kind of boil down to that and it seems like the giants might be tracking in that direction. The Steelers might be too, is that when you are top-heavy, when you are built around your stars as both those teams, more or less are eighteen get sideways, it's like a Jaguar card, not the team, like the Jaguar, oh, when it's finely tuned when it's perfect. Oh, it's cars out there we ever Jaguar may. Well, how do you know. I'm passing along rich friends. We've got some in from one don't, but they're high car in the driveway appears I, if I ever see you in a Jaguar, I'm taking a pig all over New England. Look at what is dead wasn't bad enough. He went to the Browns exit Jaguars back car. I'm saying you shouldn't be wearing the team. That's where Dr car that's related. If it's free. I'll allow it. But you know what, I want you to drive your Jaguar canton, because when you get that goal jacket that is already overdue toughly goes, I know, but I wanna see it already. Why are wide receivers, devious wise that the position because I think they can change or impact a play on one single catch or they can't. So can running back on though, but they always say, I'm on island. I'm by myself when I ball's in the heirs being a quarterback against a defensive backlash against double coverage. So they feel like because they have so much control when a balls in the air with the balls in their hand, they can determine a game. And they figure that when you score touchdowns which a lot of when you talk divas mostly our offense of players. When you score touchdown, you fit in that category. I guess you do get the stand in the end zone and have like seventy thousand. And people cheering for you. I guess that would be players. We we to get a strip sack or interception pick six. These guys are always touching the ball, so they feel that they're special, which they are built different. You know, they'll little different. You gotta gotta handle them with care, you know, because they can take over a game. You know, we saw Julio Julio do that before, you know, we saw AJ green just a week ago, three touchdowns in the first half just take over a football game and get a league where he was getting double covered. They couldn't tackle them. He was running by people. So certain guys, I would say that has earned it and has been consistent, have the right to be deeply. Tonio Brown certainly fits your state. He can be a I. My position is as far as this goes, I am not concerned about eighty four speaking out and demanding the ball, our Jerry Rice after they beat the Bengals in the Super Bowl in the locker room after the game. Get enough touch, caring. What am I getting praised enough? Why are people fall all over Joe Montana? Who made the right enough touches and what you wanted to mentality the most guys are always open, probably not. But those guys you mentioned the majority of the time they do get open and they work their butts off. So there those guys use name were some of the best in the game that's played in. And that's where they, they have earned that right to to be a little, you know, alo- alo- devious at time. I give him that. I like that. Yeah, listen, I, yeah, I have. I have no issue with them speaking out, but I do think it really does boil down to this. I talk all the time with you and and other guys that spent time in the league there is you cannot hold NFL football players to the same standard that you do. People who have normal jobs, whether you like that or not, you know how you like to go and watch them play, or you know how you spend every Sunday watching them play on TV, it's because they are rare commodities. And as a result, they have egos. They're very few guys who play professional sports that don't have huge egos just football, and he's calling for fresh because you understand that your rare everybody could do it, then you wouldn't have you wouldn't make monies of people that will love to be doing what you can do, but they can't even even great athletes that's gotten close that couldn't and it takes a lot. So yeah, your mindset is a little bit different. Not saying you can't be humble in a good guy. But yeah, your mindset is a little bit different because you know, like you said a rare commodity. When you look around the country, how many guys can do what you do on a consistent basis? The way you do it for as long as you've been doing it and make look easy. I completely agree with this and but, but but the point and it's not all sugar and in sweetness out damage damasec. The point is that you always hear, hey, Tom Brady, or Joe Montana or Michael Jordan or anybody else, hey, you, it doesn't matter. You play them in ping pong. They want to kill you and I've seen time I've seen him video games. He's done super competitive. Does it all the time at he's but you can tell. He's also a nice man and he can tell you loves his children and a good, but when it's time to compete those guys, there's a switch but they get their jerks. I mean, they turned into jerks. There's no crying in baseball, but that's. Like that guy. If you play ball, you don't like that guy. But if you're playing, of course, that's what you want. You want to kill her like Jalen Ramsey say last week in his interview after the game, if that's my grandmother out there, right. I mean, they wanna get mom or anybody. I'm going to get them and they was like, well, you grandma my hit you back. He's like, she's not getting up to one of my what I'm saying is like, yeah, right. The greaseboard is wiped clean. When you step on the football field, there's no friends. Everybody's a competitor, and we're going at it and you should have right and Antonio Brown, demanding the ball, I surmise is not alternately bad for the Steelers. She's their best because when he gets the ball, what does he do score six. Then he dances in the end zone place. He's earned that right to do that though. See, that's the thing. I think people get construed, you see a guy and you're like, oh, he's wanting to balls of he's saying that one of my tell off and I know what hap-. When I get the ball. Now if you give me the ball and I don't perform. Okay, I'll have nothing to say, but time and time. Again, I've proven showed you over the years. I am one of the best pound for pound not receivers players in the league, and when I get the rock good things happen, I agree with all of this slide. So when he talks and events lit them, it's okay. Yeah, but except here's the, here's the caveat. Here's the asterisk I must much must put next all that. Don't do it in the media. No, yeah. Well, right. Yeah, that's one thing to you. Never hear the patriots doing that. Anybody on the patriots. Does anybody ever do that? Do they, but they stay? No, don't do it. That's it. When the microphone and it's, you know. You know, I think every coach has his own personality. He has to deal with multiple personalities and egos and all those things that locker rooms. And is that a winning way? Yeah, Steelers won Super Bowls, outspoken guys from porter. I can go all the way back from guys. Our luau spoken didn't hold their tongues, but. At some point, you gotta let guys kind of and be themselves and you've seen gronk kind of yourself outside of football and it's okay because that's him when he gets on a field as a distraction now, because it's never gronk. I've never heard say I get, you know, we, we've probably would have on Sunday. They have Tommy boy would have thrown me because you know what is thing that they keep amongst each other, whatever talks they have in the locker room, but we used to have or even other teams for that matter. You know, Seattle used to be really good at that. These guys just get into it all the time with Sharman was there and all those different personalities. You saw kind of leak out what Earl, Thomas and Wagner at one point you know. So what you've got to understand is that exist in all locker rooms. Some teams do a better job of keeping it in house versus others, and the best way is to keep it in house. So we don't talk about it or we don't try to actually about it. It and it becomes a distraction, and we're not talking about football. We're talking about you complain or you not happy, and then a quarterback has the respond. And if the quarterback and you are tight that you call him up, like bro. Why are we talk to the media while we talk about why didn't get the ball, whatever. So you got to squash that you know, well, why? So last thing. Last question, why can't Mike Tomlin make that happen with his veteran? I think he cares about. My job like you dealing with the guys that he's, he's that he's been dealing with over the years. I think he does a great and an incredible job. We are Uman. Sometimes you surprised the coaches, comments and things that happen. We seen it for years. For the most part, I think that organization is well respected, you know, across sports in general. I think the coaching staff is one of the best. I think he juggles a lot with personalities and getting guys ready to play and diffusing situations regardless of where it's coming from the quarterback or Seaver or disgruntle running back that once a an extension or whatever the case may be hold it all together and keep guys or national anthem. I could keep going things that happen, or you know, I think he's done a great job. His team is always competitive. They're always in the playoffs and maybe some teams. That's what gets them going when you have a little drama sometimes. Okay. Feet to the fire. Then William again, it's fifty five Pittsburgh Steelers plan in January, or now they're gonna make the playoffs. They better. I'd like them to better and teams good teams figure it out. Like I said, it's week to good teams figure it l. twenty six as is twenty six's absence at all impacting the, oh one in one. Because from where I sit, it does not weird how it's hard. I think he's he's one of those players that he can change the game and he could impact the game. But what we're seeing from James Connor is spectacular because you know, that's the air parents. So as a as a Steeler fan, you gotta feel good about that, but you can't compare to CEO of Bill was here we'd be doing this versus that because he's not. So you got to, you got to kind of pour into the kid that's their. That's giving you all he has. And I think he's had two great performances. Now when Bill gets back, that's a different story. Now you got a two headed monster, so now you even better as a team. So that's a good thing to have because now Connors proven that he can go in and make plays, and you already know a Bill can do. So I think that's a good problem to have. Okay. I said, well, put that right? I did very nicely there. Fifty five the last thing and then this really is it concern level about your Trojans? They're concerned, very concerned. I know. I know these guys wanna win. I know they compete and they practice and play hard, but we've got to do a better job and it starts would everything with me. It starts at the top, you know, starts at the top in twinkles down and we've we, we've lost some games and we've won a lot of games, but we have to start winning games against the really good teams. We've got to start going in beating good teams are expectations are not just playing in the Rose Bowl or playing for Pac twelve championship. Our expectations as a team is to be in a playoffs every year and to compete for national championships. That's what. What I expect when you talk about the Trojans in USC and what they do there, and they've gotta get it together, they've gotta pull it together, not panicking, not panicking at all. I still support much Rogers and I love them, but we've got to circle of wagons and we've got to pull it together and we've got to take that next step. You are on public record on this very show, voicing support for clay Helton behind USC and everything else. He's the coach right now, say it again know, but he's the coach right now. So I have to support who's there. I'm not. I'm not a control of whatever decisions they make as far as him being the coach or not. I'm supporting him because he's the coach. I'm supporting a players, supporting the administration. I'm supporting Martine. My family makes so much sense. It's right there in front of you USC he's, he's been in your backyard the whole time. Just ignore how Bella check disciples have done in the NFL in for that matter in college. And if you can do that outside different because I never coached. I just play for them. So difference, Viva LA difference. The great Willie mcginest. Everybody. Wow, juicy stuff. They're hardcore football. Talk with two of the greats from the twenty first century mcginest and Marie Jones drew. 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Playing to Win

Woman Evolve with Sarah Jakes Roberts

1:38:12 hr | 2 years ago

Playing to Win

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Let's see. So Lanista says, now gras I'm gonna work tomorrow our dot today in yesterday and who knows what tomorrow holds because that's how I like to live my life undisclosed. Well, never mind as too much information too early on in the podcast, but let me just say God is being faithful because I have not been faithful in my diet, but there has been. In a grace, and I just thank him for that. He doesn't have to do it, but he does it. Letroy grey says, I love that you blessed us from your closet. Let me tell you. I am in my closet. Again, this week may maybe you're wondering why. Why is she in her closet? Because she doesn't have anywhere else quiet in her house. Okay. I am a stay at home working mom, which means that I am at home with to a much older who are home schooled to who have graduated and one two year old who just thinks she needs Jesus. Let me tell you that Ella Ella wants a ballet for the first time yesterday and they gave her like a little fabric, a little glittery fabric to kind of like just twirling air and she's twirling it in everybody else's. Twirling it in our, you know where Ella was trolling it around her edges because Ellison when I see these scarves in my house, my sisters and my mother are Tyner here down. We don't take these scarves and play with them. So everyone else is just living in best. Life doing what the teacher says in l. is trying to make sure her edges are protected, and that's what I love about these beautiful children that I'm raising. Okay. Now let's talk about it. Okay. Marcellina says any to start back working out. Yeah, it's a struggle. I only eat right when I work out when I don't work out. It just all goes downhill. I think it's something about me working out that makes me feel like I put way too much effort into just let Chick-fil-A take this from me. I ain't had chick fillet in some weeks and it's not that I don't want it. I wanted every day. I think about it every single day. The only thing is I don't always like how I feel after each relate. I know y'all go to Chick-fil-A and you get you a grilled chicken sandwich. A one them wraps and you don't get French fries. You get a fruit Cup, but when I go to Chick-fil-A at order stuff that ain't even on the menu, I want spicy chicken sandwich. I want pepper Jack cheese on it. I want bacon. I want to chicken strips on the side of that infringe fraud card. I want Chick-fil-A sauce on one Polynesian salsa. I wanted all mixed in together, and that's why I want I leave. I need to literally be rolled out of Chick-fil-A. Okay, Denise. She's kickboxing at six thirty am excited to get in the routine. I used to absolutely love kick boxing. I did that before we moved to Denver. It was a lot of fun, but Jonah, I'm doing this orange theory or whatever, because that's how I feel about it. What else will. Let's see who else is doing the work of the law on the highways. And by ways miss eve says, I love the closet. Don't ever leave it. I hid in mind a few times as well. The mom struggle is real. That closet is where God does his best work in my life. Okay, big toy. You Taylor says, I'm trying to figure out how to start a business plan. Our workout one day chat. You'd see and you got to choose because sometimes you can't do everything all of the time. So best of luck to you on your business plan at highly, encourage going onto the Google and seeing what it can tell you about starting a business plan. Shinozuka says, I tried aunt theory, I almost that let me tell you. I told y'all that they call it orange theory because it's HALE and they want you to think that if you go in here, you need to start living, right? Because you don't want to ever end up in that fiery pit. It is where the devil Ajez mean he just tries to push you to your utmost limit. And the only reason why. Oh, I keep going because I just want him to know. He didn't win every time I go in there. My trying to be looking at me like, oh, you gonna be outright. You're gonna make it. You push, you're gonna be or are you gonna go all out or nothing? Yeah, I'm doing now. No, I'm huffing and puffing, and I'm sweating like a strong man, but I'm here and so I'm just trying to wait and go when I feel like I won something. Okay, Amanda. We cannot tore my closet because is a mess. Let me tell you my closet has the things that I can wear the things that I used to be able to wear in the things that I'm keeping just in case I start to start eating Gideon. That's how leave all of my life Qena says, what kind of Mike are you using a need that plug? You sound great in the closet. I got a little package off of being h audio. Some like that is it was a whole podcast kit and it came with two microphones as saying this to tell you, I don't know what kind of microphone it is, but I ordered it on the. Internet and the internet push through novel. Tell you something. Let me tell you about the God I serve. Listen, I am in the closet today. And if you're listening on Facebook live, I probably don't sound that much different. But if you're listening on the podcasts, you may have noticed that I have my life together and I want to explain to you that I had some audio testing today because I was tired of the tricks of the enemy trying to mess with my audio when I'm trying to be excellent in this season and let me tell you something. We tested that audio and that audio tested us and I am living my best life. Do you hear me? Y'all? Can't listen Yanni delivering on podcast. When y'all listen on a podcast, y'all gonna see that is just is amazing. All right, so thank you. My engineer, my audio engineer is very professional. I spent a lot of money on him. He, he's actually my little brother. He, he went to college for this. He owes me so much money from you taking him to McDonald's when I was broke as a bona fide joke. So he won't be mixing his podcast to the law comeback in Jesus name a man. Someone asks me, why do I home school? My children? I only loud, let's be clear because I want to be honest with you. I only home school, the children who can be trusted to do their home schooling. I would not. I thought about home, schooling, MacKenzie, but MacKenzie in me and home. Oh. It's just. Because the way MacKenzie likes to do stuff. And the way I like to do stuff are two different things that we like to do and MacKenzie likes to do what she likes to do and most of the time that's like, let me tell you limiting you. Let me give you an example, and we're gonna rescue MacKenzie today. She's number one on my list MacKenzie, Sunday. After church, I'll come home and cook dinner. Every Sunday after church is just the thing is how grew up. I enjoy doing him going to my laundry room. There is a red solo Cup, sixteen ounces field to the brim with lotion in it. Good lotion, too. I mean that Navia you have y'all used at? See y'all probably don't get Ashi the way we do, but there are some Navia lotion that will change your life and they didn't give me a check for that, but they can send me one to pay pal as well. It's a navy lotion in it's called essentially enriched in it is just moisturizing. Got almond oil in nounce expensive and so immense. Agean my shock and all my shock in a Paul. When I walked into the laundry room and I see a solo Cup full of lotion and right beside as he some fruit and a spray bottle of perfume. And I knew instantly it was McKinsey and as McKinsey what's happening here, McKinsey wanted to make some smell good lotion. So she took all of my good expensive navy lotion, put it in Navia Cup and was beginning to experiment, and that's why she's not home schooled because I, I want her to make it to the other side and I'm not sure that she would make it if she lived with me, but a home school, the other two because we travel a lot and it's easier for us to get time in as a family when we can sometimes just hop on the road and go travel together as a family. So we get to spend time with the older kids on the. Road. And then when we're home, he gets to really get in time with McKinsey. Luckily, the school that she goes to, she only goes to school for like half a day on one day out of the week, and then she gets out really early the rest of the days of the week. So we're able to make sure that we get adequate time, but her mind, she needs to be constantly stimulated or she long have a constant rod on her life. Okay. Which brings me to my my I, I. In case you're listening for the first time. Rescue eve is part of the podcast where we take people who are making news in the headlines are in culture because of something they said or perhaps something they did, and instead of dragging them in a way that would suggest that they did not make the best decision we here at the woman evolved. Delegation believed that there's grace for everyone. And so we try to offer another perspective, a perspective that would allow for us to be a little bit more compassionate. When within that some of these stories, this first story is not making any news headlines or culture, but is making news in my life and I wanna share it with you. And that is very blessed MacKenzie who we just spoke about MacKenzie, MacKenzie, MacKenzie. I received a phone call last week before I started the podcast that MacKenzie Ed been injured. First of all, when they called me from school, they're like highs air my, hey, chat, how you doing? I'm good. Would you go for dinner and allied Lizama made me love what you make because that's how often I hear from them. Okay. So mckinsey's school calls me in there like I have McKinsey here. MacKenzie has fractured her tow. That's what McKinsey says. She is fractured her Togo and she she wants. She just wants you to know that and I say, okay, you know, like, what do you want me to do here? Do you want me to come pick her up? And she's like, no, United to come. Pick her a. We just wanted you to know that she thinks she's fractured her toe. I think, you know, maybe she'd been a little bit dramatic. I'm not sure. And I'm like, all right, fine. I said, well, listen, I, I'm not a school nurse, but I hear that you all have those from time to time. Do you have someone there who can provide a medical professional. Perspective on this injury that MacKenzie has the medical professional takes a look in there like, okay, it is a little bit swollen. So we're going to let her come home. So I let McKinsey come home. Now let me tell you what McKinsey, forgot MacKenzie. Now forget that if they send you home with an injury that you can't come back home or come back to the little playground or go back to school during your living, your best life until the doctor has seen you. So I took her to the doctor because if I'm gonna pull you out of school, it better be something on what you. I take doctor doctors, I put some ice on giver Motrin letter spray. Someone takes on his show, be fine, and you know, wait two weeks and she can then go back to p. e. so ago I could Deloitte doctor's note. Now MacKenzie has decided in the principal's office because she didn't got a doctor's note because her fracture to- k. so while this stores really taking longer than I expected. But here here it is any who so McKinsey has to sit in the principal's office. Well, of course, McKenzie's toe has been healed. Why? Because we serve a healer. He's just amazing in MacKenzie. He wasn't playing, but God is so good that he just blessed her big toe with miracle and so- McKenzie's Laughlin around with her. Miracle be told only problem is doctor says she came play off after two weeks. Oh, now we got a problem. So she's been sitting Afrin p. e. little principal gone. Tell her you can have a friend come sit with you inside. So it's recess time. Yesterday, McKinsey is looking for friends to come sit with her. And I guess one thing led to another on the playground, a little boy came up to her. She told me they were clucking like a chicken and he tried to grab her arm and he was like trying to play fight her. And she said, I was trying to take it light on them, but then he got serious. She ends up pushing a boy down on the ground. He didn't hit his head. And so now MacKenzie is beaten up a little boy at school, and she needs to be rescued. So. Can someone help Kinsey beat up a little boy school. And her excuse was she was trying to take it light on him, choose trying to take a light on, but she actually ended up not taking that light on him. And so I got a call from the principal from McKenzie about her life and she's got a stat beating boys, amber Lawrence's while that escalated quickly didn't it? How do we go from getting this in this conversation? I'd be having with McKinsey like, how did we go from getting a friend on the play ground to you beating a little boy at like, you gotta break this thing down for me and let me tell you something I know is center because I've seen McKinsey with her fifteen year old brothers and one of her fifteen year old brothers teaches her had a box, which in hindsight, will probably have to pull back on that because MacKenzie like gets in a fighter stands in. It takes a little boy down and now I'm on the phone with the principal trying to act like the parent who so shot. You know, y'all know if you are parent, if you not apparent, maybe somebody's child and you know how your parents have to act act all shocked and surprised I home. If you believe that sounds like that is so much different than anything that I have ever experienced from her effort in my life. And that's what here I am on my vote in in my voice because you know, I got my woman evolved podcast voice, and then I have mine professional voice. I like to call it professional and I am really completely disappointed and shocked that she would ever exhibit this level of behavior certainly with all of the resources and and boundaries that we provided for her. She certainly knows that this is not the adequate way that she should be acting. So I'm trying to do all of that. No-one good. Well, when I hang up the phone and are going to have to talk. Okay. I just need to know, can we rescue her. Bam says she was definitely operating in her full healing. Now, that's a word she was. She was Brian says, this sounds like self defense to me. She but say, Brian, I'm almost which you, but she said she told me that everything was fun and games, and then he tried to flex on a little bit NC. None of this here. Here's wisn. I self defense, honestly is because MacKenzie should have been in office had McKinsey been in office. We would have never been in a fight with the little boy. We are not even a full month into school. Starting in here we are. I know I know the front desk, we're friends. We go to lunch together. They're are part of the woman evolved podcast because of MacKenzie and her life. First of all, they gotta let her stop calling me. Can I tell you that McKinsey will call me from the front office to let me know that her water bottle is empty. They let McKinsey call is anybody is this a new law because our isn't allowed to. Pick up the phone to call my parents until there wasn't earth quake, and I needed to be picked up. Denise is I don't think she needs to be rescued. She's gonna make her way out one way or the other. Well, that's for sure. That's for sure. That's for sure. Linney. She says, we're going to rescue McKinsey. He needs to may not now. See, that's the other thing is he Sean tasted. We need to hear her side of the story. The, oh, y'all want me to bring McKinsey back on the podcast. Let me tell you something. The little boy probably thought that they were gonna just go, you know, mess with the little girls. They just didn't know that I'm I'm raising a warrior over there. Okay. And so you not just gonna come up here clucking at us like chickens. First of all, why you don't like chicken, what you're trying to say that I like chicken, you know what I mean? I don't know how she took it. I'm just saying, and then she just rose up on them. And so listen, that's neither here nor there. MacKenzie should have been in the office crystal Jefferson. Did you stretch before you reach? She said, where's the proof? Where was the tape? I don't believe it. Let me tell you something. I know what MacKenzie said. It happened. McKinsey literally said I was trying to take it easy on them. Okay. Tiffany says that she can be rescued. I just want to know. And just want to know if y'all can rescue her. Actually, Kenya rescue me because I'm the one who needs rescuing. It's just as a parent when you see a tau just act in just like you. But you have to to tell them that you can't do that because you can't just act just like me. You gotta act different than me because MacKenzie, let me tell you something. Now I'm gonna move on in a minute. But what I'm going to say is this I used to really run up on grown men. There was a season in my life Seattle. Now my testimony fully. Some of you do there was a season in my life where I wasn't nowhere close to anybody's pastor in nowhere close to anybody's leader of nothing hours. Just like out here. Just want to say live my life because I was living my worst life. It was not the will of the Lord for my life. But in that season when I was doing those things, you know, wagers in strip club and just out here just, you know, drinking and smoking. I don't want to shock y'all. 'cause I know y'all say thank divine filled with the Holy Ghost, but when I was out here rolling and things up, you know. If somebody said something to me the ad in like it would be nothing for me to square up on. I mean six, two, six, three, two hundred to twenty in thing that I was going really do something. So when I see McKinsey at nine just running up on the little boy as I don't know. I don't know. Rescue me. Janus is that we can rescue me. Mom needs rescuing. Thank you guys, please. I need it. I need to be rescued. Okay. Okay. Tiffany says, oh yes, I do throw the bags and let it rip. Okay, listen. Okay. Love lies. I agree. We gotta rescue used his. You have a long road ahead with baby grow and no, please. Y'all pray for me for real. Okay. Let's all you says we must rescue Kinsey. We all know she just stare junior. She got that gather a mutt ministry from her mom on all. Can y'all just pray? Okay. At Algiers. Can you pray for me an McKenzie because. Okay. All right. So that was my first rescue for this week's episode because that's just how I feel in my spirit, and I appreciate you all being along for this darning. I appreciate all of the prayer requests that are gonna come my way as a part of me sharing with such transplanting. My next rescue is probably I guess it's just the Lord the my next rescues a Georgia school that has implemented a new rule that will allow them to discipline misbehaving students by spanking them with a twenty four inch wooden paddle. This school is being dragged in the news and in the culture and then headlines because obviously, most people subscribe to the notion of don't touch my child, and I also hold a subscription. Listen to that very train of thought, but I am just wondering, given recent events, even in this podcast, if there are teachers, perhaps listening who would like to say, y'all know our struggle in we, it would just be nice to have some means of retaliation when these kids start cutting up kin. Is there anybody amber Lawrence's yet? It's a now for me dog Cheryl says, oh, no, you won't kit. Now I ain't gonna lie. We'll tell you this. I mean they have to get permission. Would you give your school your child's school permission to spank your kids with a wooden paddle. Would gel. Now. No guys. Okay. Shunned, he says, is a hard? No, for me Jada says, no, ma'am. Cynthia Countess. It's social worker here. That's a heart. No hard. No, no, no, no. So it on sound like we're gonna be able to rescue school because let me tell you something McKinney beat that little boy of an everything but had out now you talking about, we'd have all been in jail somewhere because if outta went up to the school and they told me that they went on hit her to to put her in line. I'm gonna tell you something. At, I wouldn't have been able to do this podcasts at all today because the level of ignorant that no wig rip necessary. I'm snatching my own wig all for this one right here, but I guess that some see. Okay, recall bail. Thank you, speak up. She says, I'm on the fence. Let's talk about it. I wanna talk about being on the fence because I know for sure that I, I would not be able to do that. Have my Chow spanked, but. I volunteered at McKinsey school one time and I can see how the rule came up into the conversation. Lasagna is, no, that's big, but a ruler. Yes, we'll come on somebody. Okay. Isabelle says I have given permission for a struck disciplined, but not with the wooden. Oh, we'll praise the Lord. So is not necessarily that they can't spanked. The children is just that they can't do it with a twenty four inch within paddle. Is that what we're saying here is that what's happening bam says, I remember you get spanked in school. I remember getting spanked in school for something. I didn't do it devastated me that was in the eighties year because, like, you know, I don't know. Y'all probably don't believe in spanking your kids. But if you are someone who did believe in spanking your kids. So you don't just Bank kids for everything. And I think my issue with it is if I hand over the right to spank my chat, I need to know that you're gonna use it the way that I would use it. Having said that my child is beating up kids. On the playground. So who knows? Okay, brianna is. Let's see. Kim says I came from school that spanked me with a ruler. I think I needed it. I'm gonna tell you something. Now I don't want them spank McKinsey, but is a lot to you. I think McKinsey would be acting a lot better if she thought she could get it right there. Lawrence is. There has to be some form of discipline and consequence. She see, this is what I'm saying. And this is why I wanted to see if we could rescue them. I don't want anyone else banking McKinsey. But I know that if MacKenzie knew that she could get spanked by other people that McKinsey wouldn't try. But I don't want what is that? Am I double minded man? Unstable in all of my ways, jasmine close our eyes and said, I can't imagine it my eyes. I'm trying my is a close. I can't see it happening for my children. An ISA says, the answer is no going to jail is not on my gender. No, ma'am. No, sir. Braids by Kishan. Maybe a ruler. I used to get three leaks in the hand in school. I know Chad, it's just. Zanny should thank yous. I need his teacher and she says, as a teacher yacht on our struggle, I can't imagine I'm on offense. I'm not gonna like, because once again, I can't imagine it. But on the other hand, if our teacher and I know that these kids 'cause I know I know McKinsey is up there trying to teach at one hour and up to the school to meet the teacher just say like, hey, lady here I am. Here's my face. You're going to get used to it because you're gonna just remember who this job issues a star. Okay. And you're gonna wanna talk to me a lot about her stardom to just come down a little bit. And so she told me when she knew when McKinsey knew that I was coming up to the school that day that she acted completely differently. She was a totally different child is what she said. She was a totally different hat is what she said. Did you hear my raggedy stuff on going off? I'm a professional. Okay. At that was an accident. Okay. But listen, any who? So I don't know. Brianna says who's to say how hard they would spend the. I know there's a lot of questions about it. I just want to ask just, here's okay. So we might be able to rescue the school, but we will let the paddle drown until we can figure out the proper way of discipline. I just don't think that they should be getting dragged for the very notion of it because I don't know Janowski is now. Okay. I know mine. Okay, so I wanna just rescue the school. I want to get to school on the boat. I wanna talk to the school like, listen, I know us hard out here, but are there other ways that we can work this thing out the Sean? Did everyone don't understand you can't beat a child for everything. That's right. You know, it's a lot of people don't. Describe this Bank in at all, and I want to be respectful to them on here. It is a slow. Shandra says, it's a touchy subject. Leshan. Jason is a touchy subject, and I totally agree. So. Okay, final vote from the Facebook live audience. Can you all tell me, are we now for arrests, q.? Can we rescue the school and drown paddle? Lisa says, rescue the school. I'm with that as we rescued the school and we just understand that like they're in a struggle that we may not all be aware of, but there could be other ways ads wanna rescue this ad in think at an think that it was like a completely just all my goodness. How could they ever even suggest this notion kind of idea? And a lot of people did, but I'm like, young kids be bad. Okay. Shandra says, rescued the school, burn the paddle. I'm waited Unisys the school drown paddle. Okay. An issue. Says she's all out of boats. So an e she won't be making room. Ashley says banking didn't make me a better to. It made me a sneaky check. It just made me figure out how to do it in a way that I wouldn't get caught. My children respond better to me not spanking them. Did you have to spank them to like, did you ever spank them? Now? I know this is what happens when I start going down the road p shares is rescued. The school Janus says, rescued the school drown, the paddle, Asia Lens's. Some teachers might even abuse that totally grew totally agree, Kelly coast as rescue their school in Jonah paddle. Okay. Okay. That's okay. Monica says, I'm not going to spank my kids. I don't feel that it provides total clarity, yes. Okay. So this is what I want to ask you before I move onto the next to the next rescue, where do we fall on his spank in thing? First of all, let me tell you where we fall. We follow him on our business ministries. But if we stood out of the ministry invite, maybe the doors at our church ain't oath. Open yet. Okay. And so if we stepped out of mine and our business for a second like, do, where do we fall on the spanking thing? I will tell you. MacKenzie doesn't respond to spend. You know what? I think I'm gonna start doing what the almost start making McKinsey, run laps and do pushups like some military style consequences around here. I think another thing let me take cannot have. I don't know if I should tell you this because I don't know all of the legalities, but I will tell you that I did have a moment where I was like McKenzie being fashion. Easter is the luxury. So I put her in like a uniform. She had to wear the same thing every single day. I put her hair and like corn rows going straight to the back like Cleo from set it off style. And I was like, when you can begin to walk with the level of. Integrity and honesty that is down on the inside of you, then we can have an outward demonstration of that and what you are allowed to wear until then like we're not gonna have on heels and bomber jackets, and you all find cute, but you can't clean up your room and you don't do what I do in your mouth is why letting will happen. I'm not going to pay for you to be high and mighty, and you really need to be low lowly, like a servant because that's the way up. And so what what's out thing? Okay. Cheryl says, personal preference, all children respond differently as use them the as Malachi probably had one or two spankings in his entire Malachi was just a teach to t GIS. Let me take Malka used to punish himself. He would tell me what it did. He'd never get busted. He tell me what he did, and then he would also tell me the punishment that he felt was adequate and he would just do it. Okay. It was amazing. The shangen. Says, yes, kids do bad, but the paddle cannot be saved. Maybe the ruler. Okay. Okay. Lenny. She says it takes a lot for me to spank my daughter, but she does try. She has to be on my last last last negative number for me to Popper love. I don't know how to say your name and I don't want to get it wrong, but I'm call you ail angel. She's a girl. Yes, my mom did that to my brother. He was bullying kids for the way they dress. Oh, she brought him. So she bought him light up shoes and he had to wear them activi- real quick. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes you got to use what they enjoy. Okay. Like, listen, Astro, mckinsey's ruined down. We were bare bones. I remember that episode of the Cosby show before we cancelled the guys we show because it Cosby situation where the thought he was gonna move out and be grind. He's all you ready move LMU show you what it takes to live out in the real world. That's where MacKenzie was at nine hours. I child youth in the head the same dinner every single night you I'm gonna. Do I'm gonna do for you. I'm gonna do for you. Ain't going not do for young. Do for you, but you, you ain't gonna be done up. I'm that's a word I'm going to do for you, but you ain't gonna be done. Okay. Which I think Don. She thinks that at Christmas for my daughter one year, no more issued after that. That's you boss shinyuka send me where you get them from edges because kids don't need Christmas, not really you. First of all, you don't even need Christmas at, ain't even about this. And if you do something to cut it up, shoot, my budget will be glad to play me if you want to my budget will be glad for you to cut up this year. Okay. Be walking around with all of my money in my pocket this year. Okay. How about that? Jessica Ferguson? I prefer not to spank my kids, but sometimes they need to be pop. Now what why you think is the difference between spanking and poppin. And could Papas dislo one time in spanking repeated have what is that? Let's all you says. There are so many options for discipline spanking can be an option, but not the main option all the time. If I use a strong tone with my daughter, she gets her whole life together. However, my son needs stronger consequences. It's per child per circumstance. I totally agree. Malachi was always the strong voice chat. Let me tell you why. I think, and then I'm gonna move on from this rescue because here we are again, let me tell you something I McKenzie does not respond very well to instant punishment is better when it's more of a long suffering because that instant punishment McKinsey can forgive herself very quickly. MacKenzie said his grossest sufficient for me. I understand why we came to this point and now if you're ready to move on, I'm ready to move on. I used to get. Spanking as a child and wonder if my parents were ever gonna love me again, I used to walk around for days just on eggshells like am I breathe into latte it put a fear than on the inside of mean MacKenzie can get inspected and then come cuddle up in the bed with me. Like girl, I was tripping, you know? And I understand what you had to do that. Now, let's watch a little Disney before I go to bed. And if I'm not careful, I've been done forgot. 'cause she walks with such power in thority over that grace that I'd be like, oh girl, yeah, grabbed popcorn and I made you downstairs, and then here we are and not forgot that she's in trouble. Okay. So, okay. Evidently for those of you who are wondering the difference between spanking and popping is at spanking is a full on production. There's a lighting tech. This is from Lenny. Shas spanking is a full on production. I understand what you're saying, but it's all the same thing because I mean, we talking about physical discipline. Monica says, pop in hurts less. I got popular. Because I had a smart mouth. I think it. I think the physical discipline is the physical discipline. That's me who am I? That's just my opinion. We've all stepped out of mind our business ministries to share in this moment in pretty soon. I mean, within thirty seconds, we'll be back in the doors at a church will be open. We'll be right back at module business. Saudi Gaskins is that's my daughter. Listen, Honey, McKinsey MacKenzie knows his grace. Okay. But I do think I'm gonna start using physical, you know, go run of non street squat. Adding start doing that. Okay. Okay. So we have gone off on a tangent again, which is totally not like the woman evolved podcast, but that's not that ain't no problem. That ain't no problem. That's what we here for. We hear the half one. Okay. Can we move onto the next rescue though? I'm ready this next rescue. I don't know. I think he's all right now. Let me tell you. I know because I have so much integrity and so much team spirit. The John wanna agree with most of the time we keep it pretty female Centric when we have our rescue stories, but every now and then Amanda something that eases his way into the conversation. And this time that men was vaunted Davis. Now, I know some of you aren't that familiar with football. Von Davis plays for the Buffalo Bills and they were playing on Sunday and they were losing. It was a mighty AOL taking place. The score was twenty eight to six and Vantaa David who has been in the league for about ten years, I think got to have time in decided to retire when they were down twenty two points. He retired. Right there in the middle of the game. Of course, football fans are shocked in apart. It's something like this could ever happen. What happened? The team spirit, they say, played until the end, they say, but vaunting said, I'm done and where is the exit. Now I want to start by saying this. At understand all of that raw raw team spirits to, but I would just like to submit for your consideration that voluntary was in the middle of playing a game. He was twenty two points down. Have y'all seen football? Okay. Real quick. I was going to a workout plan in the workout plan was to run a hundred yards ten times in the morning and into repeat that in the evening chat. I must let that this young keep mon- money. That's a donation cause I ain't gonna never be running a hundred yards ten times in the morning and in the night. Okay. But vantera does this all the time and was looking at the score and vont was looking at his knees and voluntary was filling his bag and voluntary was filling his shoulders and he was looking at how much work it was gonna take to even come out from that hall. And he said, I'm done and listen. I know you are want people to stay into the end and y'all want them to get their life together and all of that stuff. And, and I think that there is a lot of. Merit to that, but I don't think that we can drag him for light being like, I'm tired shoot. Now now, first of all act like y'all, I never just quit in the middle of something because you've been bit off more than you could chew. Now, I've been in a situation where I bit off more than I could chew, and I thought I was going to be able to do it until I realized I couldn't do it. And when I realized I couldn't do it, I had to stop in the middle of doing it because I can't do it. I'm just wondering if we could be a little bit more gracious towards him because he's finished now. Okay. Now, Denise. I'm from buffalo and not understand. Yeah, I guess so sentences let that man live his life. That's kinda at least you said, I applaud his courage now. That's what the gaggy is the gag is. I applaud his courage to see because some of us been signed up for some stuff that we don't really wanna do, but because we want everybody to feel good and we want to make sure we don't disappoint anybody. We'd be playing stuff that I wanna prophesy, Avantis Davis spirit. Over some of y'all in this season that maybe you would just be like, you know what? I can't do it when is a good time to say, I can't do it. Okay. If you are afraid of disappointing people like when is a good time now tell you. I would like to rescue him and when he gets on the boat, I wanna tell him next time. If you are suspecting that you are going to quit in the middle of doing something because he first of all, this is why I think we should rescue him because he didn't just decide to quit right there in half time. That's when he activated what he'd been knowing about his desire to, Ooh, I feel a word common, see because you don't just make decisions. People don't just wake up and decide to get divorced. People start letting it marinate in mind. People don't just decide to quit their job. It marinates in their mind. People don't just decide to have major life changes that are within their control. It marinates in their mind before they actually activated. The only thing is that when you activate it, you don't know where you're. Going to be in what season you're going to be in when you decide to activate what you know, unfortunately, to to the tame and everyone else he activated what he knew a time that wasn't convenient to other people, but it must have been convenient for him and Ajez think, listen, who am I? Nobody, but I just think that we should consider rescuing him because he had to courage do what a lot of us that ain't done yet. Sharon says, yes, rescue him. He knew when to fold them deletes it says, I mean, I've quit a job that wasn't my calling in the middle of the job. Kelly Alexander says he should have just sat on the sideline until the end of the game, nuts word to that, possibly. Now we'll give you that one. There was that was an option as well. But I, I think that part of the reason why he probably couldn't just sit on the sideline. And once again, I don't know him never seen to hunt. He could walk in this closet right now. And I've been on called the police on them because I don't even know what he looked like for real for real. But what I'm gonna say is this sometimes you wait. Oh man. This is such a word. Sometimes you wait so long to do what you not do that you don't even have grace to leave quickly. I noticed where it is for somebody you've been waiting so long to do what you know you're supposed to do that you don't even have grace to do it properly. Any long, there's a difficult conversation you need to have with the friend. There's in difficult, you know, situation that's happening at work, and if you aren't careful, you will wait until you just allow yourself to be mounted at with so many emotions and so much pressure that you just explode in. You don't do it the way that is a reflection of your heart. You don't play football for ten years and wanna leave that way. You don't want that to be your legacy that you quit in the middle of halftime game. But maybe he should've, maybe it was in his mind to quit a couple years ago, but he kept playing and kept playing kept playing into. Finally, he was like, you know what? I can't do it anymore cold. You can just leave after the game. He's or leave after this season. He I know I'm gonna leave right. Right now. I don't know. I don't know. I dunno. Rashad says, you can't wait for the season to be right for others. Luanda's said he said, I'm gonna give it to a half time, then I'm out. Okay, I don't. I'm just saying. Banias as he gets rescued simply because that's funny. Alexis king says, you gotta be unapologetic about your growth. He said what he said. Yeah. I mean, a John says, we can rescue him. Lauren Richardson's Lorne Richardson says, I quit my job in the middle of the day. Listen when it's time to go get a LeBron James spirit grab your bag and go, I'm telling you, I'm just saying this one I'm saying, I think we should rescue them. I know. I know we, Brian. We are talking about vantera Davis who is a football player for the bills who walked out when he was in the middle of a half time loss. Okay. Crystal Robinson says, I'm sorry, I've quit before I know better now yet sometimes when you don't listen to this spirit slash good screaming and you do it anyway because this was not his first time feeling. He was not supposed to run out on the field. He did realize not I'm done. That's what I'm saying like, oh. Okay. Looney gather me together. Baena said auntie, Sarah, you keep pronouncing my name. Wrong. Elewa is Baena Bernie. First of all, she spelled it phonetically. If you want me to pronounce your name correctly. Listen, I didn't finish college. I don't know all of these names and all of these pronunciations. You're gonna have to tell me how to say Baena. I got you. Okay. Listen, invite me back to the cookout. I'm bringing them potato. Sally, okay. Jay Brown says we can rescue him, but would he have left if the team was winning, maybe, but we're talking about the team winning. People don't walk away from relationships when they in the middle of the anniversary dinner day walkaway when he didn't cheat it again, we can't. I mean, that's, you know what I mean? When you get reminded of why you over it. That's most of the time when we leave win the last time you left her. I'm being again, when is the last time that you left in the middle of your relationship being at a high moment instead of when you were reminded of the raggedy nature of the individual that you were with instead? That's all I'm saying that he was, I made. In this while they wanna do this no more. And I just thought that maybe just maybe we could turn the corner. But here we are down twenty two points m. i. knees is hurting. My shoulder is hurting. And if this is going to be like all of the other stuff on and signed up for it in baby, let me tell you what is that del? Okay. Angela, be Gracie. Sometimes you wait so long to do something, you know, have the red carpet of grace to step out on. All right. Okay. So Jacqueline says that she thinks that he should be rescued because I feel the same way. I think that he should be rescued too. That's what I think. I think that it's it's worthy ever. Rescue, Jay bronzes. That's a test of character. They're still a write in a wrong way to remove yourself from a difficult situation. You pray for grace to leave strength. All I'm saying girl, I agree with you. I agree with you. Totally. Don't let Clinton fool you. I totally agree with you. I'm just saying the point of this segment is not about when we do things the right way is when we do things the wrong way, but we take a minute to at least look in have compassion for things that could have been done better, but I'm with you it it's, it was a there was a better way for that to happen, but it went down away, went down recited, says, rescue him in his hurting these in his heart and body. I agree. Okay. It sounds like we can rescue him. Okay. Okay. Jasmine Newton, definitely a rescue because we've all been there. A Johnson has, but maybe in the floating since he got out, you know what you right. We knock on the -sarily gas at the j. has gas is too high. And you know, they say the economy is about to turn on us. So what we do instead is we send them a floating because you got time and you got most goals so you can use them, must goes to move on, move on through them, move on through the maters. Okay. Alright Chaz. We're going to rescue him. Y'all rescued McKenzie m. the jury was still out for me. It sounds like I don't think we, we rescued the Georgia school, but we drown the paddle inside. That concludes our rescue eve stagnant of the woman evolve podcast who we had a lot going on chat. I've ran off on a tangent a few times, but I'm back at it. All right. So the next segment of the woman evolve podcast is a segment we like to call him hail, Mary. Is when we take a moment to just celebrate some of the accomplishments that are taking place amongst women in the news and culture at just like rescue eve. Occasionally, there is a man who slides his way in, and so we call that hill Joseph, Mary and Joseph. You may be wondering, where's this whole eve? Mary Adam, Joseph situation come from is coming from the word at Adam and eve in the garden, Disney things that they should not have done, but God head grace for them. And so when we rescue our atoms or rescue eve is because it's our way of just saying, listen, you could have done better. He didn't do better, but that's all right. There's gonna be a plan. It's all gonna work out. Hell Mary and Joseph is when you do something that is worthy of being celebrated, you overcome your own insecurities and your own fears, and you show up in a way that ends up blessing. Other people much like Mary, the mother of Jesus and her fiance a and then husband Joseph. All right. So my first hell Mary. For this week is Keri hilson now I don't know if you all this story, but I thought and I thought that it was worthy of as bringing up on the podcast. So Keri hilson is a singer who had some songs. I personally, I was singing for you right now, but she could actually sing and God has not yet touch my vocal cords in the way that I have asked him to, but he's answering God and I believe that he's going to be on time sooner or later in who carry house and says, sure add like to be married someday, but not enough to do it with the wrong person. So if you ever see carry, walk down that out, even if I'm old in grade, you can arrest assured I didn't settle, and this is what got her a hail, Mary because someone came through was ID. Your expectations are too high. And you know, she says, she said back to this responder to have a man complement my life who was equally yoked in things that matter, like loyalty, virtue, depth. Compassion and love and respect for God, someone who understands healthy relational boundaries and pushes me to be my best self while supporting each other's dreams. Someone who truly loves himself and has dissolved his ego, someone who has evolved from his lower self in constantly evolving someone who was learned his lessons and strives to be a great human being someone who holds my heart carefully intrigues me will who values and honors love someone who is wise enough to lead me na and I don't think puts anything in our hearts that we are not capable of having let me tell you something. I gave her a hail Mary for that because listen Honey, she told them about what she want to be in her life in things that she won't have in her world added think that single women are often challenged with this notion of our your standards too high. And you know, maybe you should lower your standards so you can get somebody like she didn't say he needs to be sixteen. He need to do this and he needs to have this many zeros in his Bank account. She's not asking for something on a reasonable and to think that women are single because they need to lower their standards and maybe accept something that is less than what they're seeking for athlete. That's just like a cop out thing to say the single women like maybe as you like, you're single. First of all, it's a stranger talking her like, you don't know, or maybe she was asking legitimate question and not being a hater, but still like the notion of I'm still single. So there's something wrong with me and something that I need to do in order for me to have someone in my life, I think is just so fraudulent on so many levels. Sometimes we're still single because I haven't met anyone who was worthy of me. Give him a heart to in there is nothing wrong with that. And if you believe that you have the convictions and the convictions you have about your relationship are possible than I think the to show hold onto them things because listen, I was blessed and that by the time I got my mind together and stop being raggedy and. I had to get a divorce because I was being raggedy, but then I was by myself and I was waiting on that person come into my life. Got brought me someone who met that standard criteria. But before at met him atmos- from raggedy people, Amazon righty. People would big checks. I met some regular people with good jobs. I'm it's raggedy people who would have been alright to look at, I guess. But let me tell you something they was direct t. and by raggedy outta mean that they didn't have any money at that, they weren't going to be anything. They were raggedy because they was playing games and wasting my time and trying to make me believe that our uneven finna believe in our waited and got brought someone to my life. I don't know how long she's been waiting, but the edges don't think that anyone should just turn their Turner standards down and gays. So she was my helm, airy market honest is the right one is worth the wait Asia. Is you show right? She wanted what she needs not based on, looks or personality. I love this marquee should. Race's. I love caring for that metoo. I thought that was something really dope and light don't don't don't try and ask me or my standards too high. Cynthia says, I feel like that train of thought is too common in the church as it single person is a horrible feeling to hear. People try to put it back on you, like is your fault. You single because you have standard like this. So raggedy like, okay, I'm still single, maybe I'm still single because I'm not ready. I'm still single because I want to be healed and I wanna be a good partner to the person got has from me. I'm still single because I haven't met anyone who was worth me sacrificing who I am right now in order for us to become one because let's not get it twisted. When you decide to be with someone, you are going to become one with them in order to become one with them, you're gonna have to have parts of you sacrifice with parts of them. And the problem that most of us have is that we ended up sacrificing parts of us that we've Al you with parts of someone else who we wish we could change. Change. And so it ends up diluting our own self esteem and our own confidence. I decided that I was going to keep myself until I met someone that was worthy of me sacrificing a piece of me for them now and Nisha Booker says, I love it. I rather wait than settle for less than who has been created for me. Xactly Dimitris is I'm still single because I want to be hall exactly. Like we be forcing issues like forcing a Mary coupled had babies like they just got married and we're asking them when they're going to have babies when they feel like let's get out of people's uterus and out of their sex life. They can have a child when they wanna have a CIA. Do you know how hard marriages do you know how much of a foundation you need to have before you get married? And we just Russian people into this picture in into a Christmas card, but we ain't gonna be babysitting and I don't have nothing on your daycare. I don't have nothing on your diaper. So you know what you wait and habitat when you feel ready. And when people tell me they don't want to have kids. I'm not the personal. Oh, why? Why you don't wanna have no kids. No, I'm going my my business. Because kids are a whole twenty four, seven job in if you don't wanna have no kids, and that's on you. I'm gonna mind my business and take care of these six that I got. Okay. Toya says, I lowered my standards once before and I am not going to do it again. I stagger FAI so much an loss myself, but I'm back that's important for people to Noto you. And I'm glad you said those. Those last two words are the words that people need to know no matter how much of yourself you sacrifice to people who are not worthy of investment of you. You can always get those pieces back like God is a restore, he will add to you. You will be better than you are before because you will be armed with wisdom and boundaries that you did not have as a result of the heartbreak that you went through. So that's another because I feel like that's what keeps people from walking away from relationships is that they end up feeling like I gave so much of myself that I can't just walk away when in reality is that if you walk away, you can begin to get yourself back. Otherwise, you're going to continue. You to just pour more of yourself into something that's already not working. Brianna Custer says, you don't know what their stories and where they came from indoor experience go, Kerry totally true. Geneticists strikers guide is hiding me from the nonsense is award. Bishop shinyuka says as where people live vicariously through others. That's why they pressured them to do so many different things so so true. So yes, we're giving a hail Mary to carry hilson for that one. I also wanted to give a hill Joseph to Kirk Franklin, Kirk Franklin recently posted that he has been reunited with his father just to give you a little bit of backstory. Evidently, his biological father and biological mother gave him up for adoption when he was just a baby and he never, I don't remember whether or not he met his biological mother, but like just a few days ago, he got a call that his biological father only had three to six months to live. He's his entire life really just Pru. That he would never be like him and throwing all of his actions in momentum into distancing himself from him. And he said in his post that what he should have actually been doing was working on forgiving him. And so there's a picture of him kissing his father and I really thought that was powerful. You know, not everyone is fortunate to have this cookie cutter idea of what it means to have a family, and there are a lot of wounds in issues that come as a result of feeling like you haven't been accepted. You know, like it's one thing to be rejected by your peers. But when you have to deal with the rejection of the people who brought you into this world, not wanting you, you don't always understand the circumstances that may have led them to place you for adoption or whether they abandoned you because of a drug problem or or maybe they ended up in jail, like they're all these different type of circumstances that can make a child feel abandoned. But the truth is that that feeling of abandonment is really. It's not the actual disease, but the child in that making that abandonment there this ease, but it was really just a symptom of an issue that that parent was having. Not something I've talked to Mumbai logical kids about as we deal with, you know, parental relationships in them not being everything that you expect them to be. Is that like what you are experiencing is a symptom of that person's disease, and it is not. It doesn't have to become your disease. If you can see properly, you can see that this abandonment is actually protection so that you can really have a safe place to become into develop. You know, there are some people who can't be in your life where you'll pick up on that poison that is within them or you'll pick up on the insecurities that are within them as disappointed as you are that they may not be in your life. You can be more disappointed if they were actually there. And so that's something that we're constantly navigating through. But what I loved about this post from Kirk. Franklin was just that it was evidence that no matter what happens that once again, restoration as possible. He may not have been throwing the ball with him as a little boy. They may not have been eating ice cream cones, but he didn't leave this earth without looking the man who brought him into this earth into the I enlist in the missile what we challenge our kids to do as he got to as an adult, give his father something, and that's honoring your father and your mother. He got to honor his father by giving him forgiveness, he got to honor what has to be because listen, you don't just walk away from your kids in. It's nothing like you deal with that and live with that every single day. And for your child to turnaround instill bless you. Like you caught me bless you. Gave me forgiveness. You're showing me love even though I didn't deserve it, and I just felt like that was dope. So yeah, that's that's HALE Joseph. That's HALE Joseph for me. Brianna Custer's. Yes, I was hoping you saw that Tina says, oh, wow, that's awesome. Me. She says, I never looked at it like that. Yeah, j. bronze at the active forgiveness is one of the most powerful ways to connect to God. It can be so difficult to forgive, but once you have forgiven, it's so freeing praised God. Amen. I totally agree desert says they're loving you the best they can with the tools that they have. Forgiveness helps you realize that and it's a, it's a process. It's a journey. So like it takes time and you have to constantly remind your mind of the decision, your heart, his made. So you can tell in your heart Africa of you. But my mind is still walking it out. So when those thoughts come up, I'm going to have to remind literally reform my mind into the decision that I won't even say my heart, but into the decision. My spirit has made that is really what it comes down to. When we talk about living a spirit led life like my spirit has decided that I'm not gonna deal with depression. My spirit has decided that I am ready to. Take care of my body. My spirit has decided that it's time for me to forgive, but I still have the mental and the physical aspect of walking out what my spirit has decided in. Sometimes my mental and my physical, they need tools to walk off the decision that my spirit has made that may mean counseling that may mean therapy that may mean rehab that may mean changing my diet like there are all these different tools that are available to our minds into our physical to activate what we receive in church church. Like a lot of times we go to church, we have the inspiration. Our spirit is moved to make a decision, but then we get confused because our mental and physical have to walk out that decision and in it there's a struggle there. But the struggle isn't there to convince you that you didn't receive a word. The struggle is there to activate you to get the tools that you need to make what your spirit has decided manifest in your life. And when you get into practice in rhythm of doing that, it makes things. A lot better. I was really, I was really that was really a tangent, but it's it's true. Okay. An attaches is your dropping all bars praise the Lord. That was, I mean, I was really out there, but that's is something shahala says that something I have to work on. I know God is working going at. Yeah, like you can receive a word in. That's beautiful. But you have to activate that word and don't feel bad if activating that word requires you look for tools and resources in help from other people. Okay. So yes, the Kirk Franklin was my hill. Joseph. I've got a hail, Mary nineteen. Black women in Harris County are running for judge at just bomb. I saw that picture. I thought it was amazing. And then my last one is Cynthia, I think your name is cog Dale. But Cynthia cocktail is a retired schoolteacher and she has made news because she noticed that the kids at her school were struggling with like lining up. In being ready for school. And so she decided to help everyone out and by everyone. I mean everyone out by helping them get ready. Let me read you this story. So Cynthia and this was sent to me by Jamie, Jamie always smelling is what she goes bound Facebook, but she's a retired third grade English teacher of thirty years, and she continues to dedicate her life to children in these. When Cynthia I begin walking her grand babies to school to the school bus. She noticed concerning behavior. Big kids would knock down. The little wants to be first on the buzz fights would happen in some kids would show up without having a breakfast, but all that changes. She soon began lining the kids up to get on the bus, providing pop tarts in Capri Suns for the ones that had an aid and on snow day, she'd ushered the kids in her home while she's go out for the bus. And when parents can arrive on time to pick up their kids, miss cog dealt with, provide dinner and get into teacher mode where it was straight up homework in lessons. Her daughter says she's been. I'm doing this for years because she just loves his. I absolutely love that story. So we definitely wanted to shout to Zambia cocktail because like listen, man. Wow, okay. That is just Ajez amazing. I thought that was just super, super dope. So Cindy cocktail is my hill, Mary, her dedication to children into seeing things go well and to really just the community is amazing. Leshan says, yes, love this story, Braves, Becky, she says, yes, that's so suite at totally agreeing Cynthia says, all my own, gee, what a beautiful soul and asset to her community y'all playing. I might have McKinsey sitting at a bus stop in DC ain't gone stash. She got the islanders be like we looking for Cynthia cog. Delta help get her life together because boy, okay. So yes, those were my rescue even hail Marys that one a little bit longer than I anticipated. But forgive me. I got excited. I love y'all instead. It's time for our advice column. Our advice column is when we take a moment in answered the questions that people have sent me on Instagram. A lot of you all hurt me and we answer a lot of relationship questions, but I also extra people to send me things that were a little bit different. And we got a question isn't necessarily like, should I break up with him? Because that's a lot of the relationships that packet as like, I feel like we're not supposed to be together, but I don't know what you think. I rely girl if you feel like that you're probably not supposed to be together, but this one was a little bit different. So here it goes in. This is about blending a family, so I can't wait to hear what you think about this. It says, hey, girl. So I hear this is the place to admit to you for life advice? I have been with my husband twelve years married to. We have two children together and he has two children from previous relationships. When it comes to his older children, I've always felt I've been inclusive but admit that I haven't been overly involved. Honestly, I never wanted to intrude on their relationship or step on anyone's toes anyways. At this point I feel as though my husband wants to exclude me from parts of his life and I'm not down for that after twelve years, my stepdaughter recently asked him to babysit while she went out to a game like eight hours. Of course, he said, yes, without even checking if anything going on, which is whatever. I guess if he was the one that would be watching the baby right mind you, my babies are two in six. My life is crazy as a working mom. I made the comment that I thought it was route of her to ask him to babysit for so long knowing he wasn't going to be doing it and root of him to volunteer me without checking with me. He goes on a rant about my daughter, migrant son. You always been jealous of her. I am completely turned off by this after twelve years girl. Please come my soul about this one was out of lying. Were they out of line? Why is it even. Thing. So here's what here's what I was thinking. When I was reading this letter, I was thinking to myself, man. This could go a lot of different ways. And I felt like at first I thought we'll all you know, it takes a village to raise a family, and sometimes you have to pitch in and it might be awkward at first, but those are the types of things build family. But then I was really thinking. And I think your last question is what stood out to me, and she says, why is this even a thing? And what I learned from that last question that I wanna share with you that I think is necessary for us to know when we are blending family is that like we have to have a vision for the family and by a vision, I mean that like we have to discuss what our views on parenting on babysitting and how are we going to have a conversation that allows for us to both have peace when these types of things come up. So when I was reading your. Your your letter at thought, if our you would not make it about this incident alone, what I would do is just paying out of the shot and make it about as really wanting to blend his family in a way that is respectful of everyone involved. So what is our plan for our family. Okay. You know, it sounds like you need more help with the kids, especially if they're going to be added people into the environment. And I think that there's an opportunity for you to express that to your husband, you know, and you know what? I always try to start with humility for me as a, you know what? I think I overreacted about this. This is what I would say if our you. 'cause humility, disarms everything because you're not fighting to be right. You are wanting to be heard. So this what I was in, I would say, I know we had an argument yesterday about your daughter in the kids and babysitting, and the more that I think about. Are realized that what happened was really just just everything becoming explosive because we haven't had a conversation about how we to blend the family. So I apologize because added in react in a way that was conducive to our marriage relationship. But I do have some concerns that are worthy of us discussing as we move forward. We've been together for twelve years. We were married now for two, and as we move forward and determine what family looks like for us, you know, there are some things that I would like you to consider, and I'm sure you had things that you want me to consider. You have to be intentional about blending family. You don't just get to put labels on people in all of a sudden, a family happens like we allowed our children to date. So I, I wanna get to know your daughter better. Perhaps your daughter wants to utilize me as a resource when she wants to do things, those types of, you know, benefits are result of relationships. It's not just because I'm here in, so let's start having them over for dinner. Let's have. Game night. Let's go to the movies. Let's start with activities that allow for everyone to be somewhat distracted, but at least together. And then that way we can begin warming up to one another. And Secondly, if you decide that you would like us to help with the baby, I would appreciate you asking me. I do have a lot of responsibilities and when I don't have responsibilities, I don't necessarily want to have any responsibilities. So if you're going to shift that, I'm going to exit you help and be a part of it in that. You also consider me. I don't know. That's what I would say, but I'm gonna turn. It's at my Facebook live audience because they be knowing step Sean Bush said he was wrong for not asking for as I don't question that I do think he was wrong, but I don't think like I think he was wrong for not asking I, but I think if we make it about that, we made it to small. I think that the bigger picture is that we need a vision for this family. We need a vision for how things like this are going to be handled in conducted so that moving forward, we're never in this situation before, like I think is common decency. To ask before before, signing me up to do anything. But I think you know some of the things he says, like you've always been jealous of her, like to me, that sounds like there are underlying issues that don't have anything to do with babysitting. 'cause I for real for real, if everything is above board and we have a good relationship and things have been discussed like, yes, it was inconsiderate. You should have asked him I, but that should be the end of the conversation. But if jealousy is being brought up in and she's admittedly saying she hasn't necessarily been all in because she wanted to have some boundaries. I think it sounds like they're still learning how to do life with one another, and there's one train of thought that you can learn as you go. But there's another train of thought that says, these are some things that have happened, and if we're going to move forward and our marriage and our family, I think that we should have a plan on how to handle these things in the future Shinkansen. I definitely think that communication is a family is important. Oftentimes it's a lack of it that creates most issues. Marine says he was dead wrong. He needs to check. You first period. I agree, but you know, I I, that's all I'm saying, okay. Kina says, I agree says Kellyanne Alexander's conversation has to take place between his children and the white. They have to communicate to make it work. Absolutely. Design Gill says, definitely underlying issue, the hot, the daughter has to be saying something. You know, one of the things that I did as we were blending our family, you not as moms, you know, we tend to be a little bit more involved in our family with like the day to day activities on my, you know, bonus children's biological mother, and I, you know, when we first got married, like I didn't know if I could talk to her about, like, you know, activities and Mike, what's the schedule and was dinner. But you know, we tried to go through my husband if you times because of how busy he is. There would be moments where we, you know, he just couldn't handle the back and forth communication. And so finally just reach after her. And I'm like, listen, you know. We're probably going to be responsible for this aspect. And so if it's okay with you, I can reach out to you directly. You can reach out to meet irregularly and we can kind of partner in making sure whatever the kids needs happen now I could have said, like all I'm gonna keep my hands off of it because I don't want her to be sensitive and I don't want her to be busy, but because we have a vision for our family and ultimately that is to create an environment for our children to become everything that God has called them to be ahead to be willing to risk vulnerability because that's what it is to risk vulnerability by putting myself out there and and risking her rejecting me or her saying something that could have hurt my feelings. But luckily that didn't happen. And I think that when you come from vulnerable place, like it's, I think, especially like when you're a bonus parent in a situation, you wonder where you fit. And so for me, I know personally, like I like backs off completely because I didn't wanna be forcing myself into something in Phil, like I was being rejected, but that kind of became. That wasn't the best way to play it out either because God's called me into this family for a reason. So if I'm in this family for a reason, I have something to add, I just have to figure out what I add and the only way I can do that as being open to to connection and open to having conversations to just figure out what I add. So that's awkward says they need to communicate. He made been. He may have taken her standing back as this interest or jealousy washy. Didn't intended that way for sure. And I do think whenever you start with humility, things, ten humility, invulnerability things go a lot better. Like alad legit be like, you know, in the twelve years at your father, and I've been visited me talking on her behalf in the twelve years at your father, and I've been together a minute a little bit distant because I just wasn't sure how you felt about as being together. I wasn't sure that there was a place for me in your life, and now we're married and and I'm raising these kids and I want them to know you and I want to be here to help you raise your children. And so I wanna. Invite you over for dinner. I wanna get to know you better. And then I think it makes things like that less awkward so that she can conceive probably knows for the most part, you were going to be helping with the kids, but she doesn't have that relationship with you, but you get to create that a well. Okay, that's it. Mission. Natasha says, I have great respect for you. A thank you wasn't like this is priceless. Ties is that is such great advice. And I wish I had that advice three years ago, but is not too late. You know, we, we learn as we go and sometimes we don't know better until we've done things in a way that we wish that we could change, but it's never too late. I think Boehner ability. Really, it'll it helps everything tar. She says using is statement telling your husband, your feelings, and what you would like to happen when situations like these arrive? I totally agree instead of not Uchida done this Uchida did this. You know, I think used that I was disappointed because I intended to do this like. I, I apologize. I apologize at it and respond correctly at respond in a way that is a reflection of how I feel about you and have feel about our family. I responded the way that I did because I was hurt. I was disappointed. You know, like using those words to really explain where you are and not saying what they should have done, it's better. Okay. All right. At the light. This episode is long in then I'm just rambling. My next question saints and friends. Are you ready? This is one that I cannot wait to hear from the woman evolved allegation about, is it Hayes there? I am writing to submit a question for the podcast. I am battling the issue, a celibacy. I want to do it. I feel the need to do it, but I go back and forth about whether to do, and I know there is an anointing on my life and I feel this will be the largest sacrifice ever to plunge forward into my walk with God, but the act can do what I want got knows my heart sodomy comes out every time. Any words of advice. So you know, I grew up in church and saw academic finitely give you like the whole, you know, holiness is right. Get your life together. You know, if you feel like he's supposed to do with you. Are supposed to do it and anything you know, like academic, I could hit you with all of that. And if you want me to, I can hit you with all of them. But I have a different take on how to handle sex and relationships and the need the legitimate need for celibacy. And I think it has less to do with. Don't do it because you shouldn't and more to do with recognizing the power of what sexiest. So like let's keep in one hundred like there has never been a time when you have had. I will say, never am, am speaking on people's behalf and I'm being maybe I'm being a little extra, but I'm gonna say, never when you have had sex with someone other than who God has placed you on the earth to be with it usually messes with your mind measures with your heart in with your decision making. And when we understand that you are literally, it goes back to that sacrificing part of yourself in exchange for a sacrifice of someone else when you have sex, that's literally what's happening with sex. Like your spirits are intertwining and most of the time we intertwined spirits with people who we don't think very highly a, yes, they might be attractive. Yes, they might look good. Yes, they might have something. But for the most part, they a lot of times they don't. Have integrity. They don't have honesty, they don't have any of these other things, and that gives down in your spirit. And now you're wondering why I have an integrity issue, and maybe I'm you're saying, you know, I'm still loyal to my friends. I don't have an integrity issue. Will you do because you are cheating on the person who got his called you to be, and you're cheating on the person who got his called you to be because you are intertwining with people who got his trying to pull you from. And as long as you cheat on that heaven version of yourself, you will never experience the destiny and the blessings attached to your name. Yes, celibacy can be challenging when you've already had sex, but when you realize the more that I deny that flesh, the more that identified that urge the stronger I become in my spirit because I have to protect what's happening on the inside of me. That's listen. Celibacy is about protection. It is about protecting who you are becoming. It is about protecting who got his called you to be. It is about protecting and preserving their. Never been a time in now, you know, I am not talking from the high horse girl. 'cause listen, okay. But there's never been a time in my life where I had sex outside of marriage with my husband where I didn't end up feeling like I just missed the Mark and because I felt like I missed the market, became easier and easier to miss the Mark until migrated challenge was doing what was right, and so it takes exercising your spirit in exercising those decisions to really become strong enough to do it. But I'm telling you like when you see it as protection and not just this black or white law, when you see it as a part of you, just recognizing who you have the power to become, if you overcome this desire in this urge men, it makes it easier to stay. No. So my question might will might challenge to you is to become celebrated to other people, but. To begin to make love to yourself and not touching yourself job, but to literally fall in love with yourself. Because as you fall in love with yourself, you will become so enthralled with who you are and who you have the potential to become that you won't just give it away to anyone for a feeling because feeling is cheap. Feelings, come and feelings go when you get married. Sometimes the feeling just be like you be looking for feeling like it's not about a feeling it is about who you get to become when you put yourself to the side from anyone's touch in decide instead to only be in a relationship with who you have the potential to become, and then God brings someone into your life, your husband or your wife, whoever got his called you to be with. And for me like this is Honey to get off. This podcast. My husband opened my eyes to what it's supposed to be praised, the Lord and man. I'm gonna say that I thought my husband's a sex outside of God's plan is a distraction that weakens the person it is and and and he is here. So praise the Lord because I need him to help get me out of this whole. 'cause I chose this question, but I'm just saying, listen, hunting. Honey, you cheat on who got his college to be when you have sex with people other than who got his called you to be with. Okay, because listen you. Okay. So this is what I wanted to tell you them. So there's a book that I've been reading. I haven't finished it all, but I think that it is worthy conversation for those who are married and those who are working toward celibacy, and perhaps those who are even struggling with sex right now in that book, I'm still reading it, but I like what I've read so far, it's called six, Jesus and the conversations. The church for guy in its by MO is some. And I like so far how she is defining sex in power of sex. And I think that it's definitely Worthing of you all taking a read. So yes, Cynthia wants to know, can we have a single episode? Yes, Chow. We can't. We need a single episode in beauty episode. Natasha. Kelly says, teach their. This is good. I'm trying. I'm waiting in the water out here. Okay. Yes, a man. I'm gonna stop. So. Because I was out here, but I will just say as a single woman when I was a single woman, I made the decision to enter into celibacy because I did not trust myself with myself. I didn't trust my decision making at entrust who I was when I would just give myself away and I didn't. I just didn't want to be her no more like she would just be looking for some something or someone to make her feel better. And I just didn't wanna think that sex was going to have any control over my life because it does become control, less becomes control. And I didn't want anything to be in control me except for God. I tried everything else in that always ended up hurt. And so I think that that that's gotta be you have to have a revelation of it for yourself. My husband says, sex is a cloud and the cloud typically fogs us from seeing all the things that are wrong with the person and how irrelevant the relationship is to your destiny. Chazelle union spoke of word. They're asking me what's the name of the book? I'm going to type it in the comments of this section. Actually, I'll put a link of it. I'll put a link on here. So far it's been a really good read for me an American woman. It just talks about even. 'cause when you've had a culture of like, you know, we live in such an over sex culture and translating sex into your marriage after you have, you know, perhaps struggled with sex, like having that proper perspective is very necessary. And I think that this book so far has really allowed for me to continue to renew my mind and to also help other women who I feel responsible for come to this place of revelation. So yes, that's it. Okay, that's all I got. Are y'all ready for this neck? 'cause y'all have, whoa, meet out on today. Okay. I'm sweating up underneath my vacation week. Okay. I don't want to to to to cause a lot of waves, but I do want to help people and sharing my experiences often do that. But I also recognize. That my truth is not everyone's truth. And when you start talking about six instead of he will just want you to be like listened, don't do it because that's what the bible say. But sometimes you need something deeper than that because you need to understand what happens. Why we, you can tell me what the rule is, but unless you can tell me why the rule exists, and I'm always going to struggle with keeping the rule. And I think sometimes we as charge have to explain why that is there. And I hope that that explained why a little bit. Okay. Praise, Lord, listen, okay. So I'm preaching on Thursday night at the Potter's house in Los Angeles, and I've been sharing with my husband that I have this word in my spirit, and this word and my spirit. I'm going to expound upon on Thursday. I literally got it just before we went live, but here it is. Okay. Are you ready? Is MAC is going to be a full meal on Thursday. Go the parts house at Los Angeles podcast on Friday, so you can hear it. Okay. So here it is. All right. I am coming. Into a season of my life where I realize there is a difference between trying to not lose versus playing to win. Now it could be argued that if you're trying to not lose that, eventually you will win, but sure mindset is different when you're trying to not lose when you're trying to not lose your basically just trying to keep your head above water. I'm just trying to do what I can to make sure that none of this falls apart. I'm just trying to do what I can to make sure that I can make ten the next day. But when you decide to start playing to win, you start securing a mindset in a strategy that ensures that success is is a just an evangelical outcome. And then you're not surprised when you have an inch eve -ment because you realize that are put in the plan, the discipline and the strategy in order to make that a reality. I think that when I experienced different emotional traumas in my life that my response to those emotional traumas was just like, I've added just got make sure I don't end up here. Unite. Every time you not dropped out of college, you not ended up wagers and had a strip club, like I, I'm just trying to keep my head above what I'm just trying to make sure I don't lose it. I don't become another statistic that I don't lose much hat. Like I just started this mindset of like it's almost like hustling like sometimes people just be hustling hustling hustling and they never realized that they're not actually building like hustling can help your ends. Meet hustling can help get you into a room, but building it requires a different mindset is not just throwing all of these different things together, and it is allowing plane to win is allowing all of your creativity and all of your structure to be channel towards one specific outcome. And when you are playing to win for God, when you're playing to win in purpose, when you're playing to win so that his light can shine through you, it is a guaranteed win, and I know that guarantee can shake people to they're both because you don't want in their boots because. As you don't wanna start depending on something and it not happening. And that's what I mean by playing like you're trying to keep from losing because when you play like you're trying to keep from losing, you start looking at all the ways that you could fail. And because you're looking at all of the ways that you can fail, you don't see that God has already orchestrated a guaranteed win for you. So all you have to do is position your mindset in your spirit in your life in such a way that you are coming into alignment and into agreement with what God has already called you to conquer in this earth. And then my quest becomes, how do I become the person who can lay hold of this win? Who do I need to forgive? What do I need to do? What books do I need to read so that I can lay hold of this win? And there's momentum's in resources and relationships attracted to that mindset and I am challenged and perhaps you are too even more in this season to begin to shed the old ways of thinking where I'm just trying to make sure that I can get to the other side and. And instead come into agreement that the be other side is already at assigned to me that I am going to make it to the other side. And so what I need to do now is start playing like I'm expecting like there's an expected end attached to my name. I need to start strategizing towards that expected in because I'm gonna win and I'm playing to win. My relationships are reflection him that my habits are reflection, that my routine is a reflection of that. And more importantly, I am creating a stage when I played a win that allows other people to view how I am establishing that next dimension of who I am. I don't know if that makes sense anybody, but that's where I feel that's that's what I feel. I'm gonna really get with God and pray and really make sure that I come to a place where I, you know, have clarity on it, but I really just feel like there is a difference between trying to not lose. Versus playing to win as long as I'm trying to not lose. I will settle for level one, but what have guy has dimensions? What if there are more levels to this than I'm giving myself credit for? But because I'm just trying to keep my head above water. I can't see that he's called me to walk on water and I'm challenged with that. You know, I started woman evolve the podcast and you know what? Many of the conference in one leave off the store. And you know, I just wanted to see what I could do and then you know, I just wanted to make sure that I was able to recoup what I invested. I just wanted to make sure I didn't lose. And now I'm coming to a place where I'm like, okay, stop playing like you just want to see if you can and start playing like you know how to do and because you know how to do start getting structure in a system in a process that is a reflection of where you believe this is headed. And it's challenged me for the last few weeks. I've been stressed. But listen, I'm in my closet. I got this audio together with guess what your grill is not just out here to lose. You girl is trying to win in this building. Do you hear me? And so, yes, they tuned Abba leave that we're going to have an incredible service on Thursday as we get eight o'clock Pacific standard time, and it will be on our podcast Friday morning. But until thin, the delegation has come together and the delegation must go our separate ways. Let's see what our friends are saying. Jerky is his yes, makes perfect sense. Ashley says, that's it right there genetics, it made perfect sense. Thanks for this word. I'm going to go back and listen again. Morrison Moore says, I'm out here trying to win a man. Thanks guys. I'm so glad that made sense because I'm still figuring it out of my head, but Thursday's I'm on have my whole life together our guys, you know how we do before this podcast is over. We don't just take about, we take a minute and go to God in prayer. So God, I thank you for my sister. Who are listening to this podcast, I know that you have incredible plans for their life, and I know that it costs them something to get to where they are got so many of them are carrying different responsibilities. Some of them like burdens, some of them are blessings yet responsibilities nonetheless. And so gotta exit. You give them a fresh perspective on where they are now that you would give them strategy in creativity and grace to learn every lesson that is available to them in this phase. And in this stage got let them leave no less than behind because they're going to need all of it to manifest who you call them being. There are some who are struggling to build themselves in the spirit. They get a word, but then that word is taken from them by the practical side of walking it out, got access to give them strength that you would give them strength to allow themselves to walk in the truth that the spirit has. Cleared over them and that you would give them everything that they need to allow their mind in their physical to come into alignment with the word that you've spoken over their life. Got, I thank you for this girl time I needed, and I think they did too until next time keep us safe. Keep us on fire and keep us humble invulnerable because that's when you do your best work in Jesus name. Amen.

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Mike Florio And Week 2 Of The NFL

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Mike Florio And Week 2 Of The NFL

"On today's part of my take, we have the return of Mike Florio. We haven't had a model for a long time, so we got lots to talk about NFL week to what's going on with Josh Gordon vantera Davis retired. What's up with this fantasy team? We're gonna try to get him to say that, and we have our week to recap another. Another crazy week in the NFL little college football talk coach, oh, is saying, fuck you to the haters and we have who's back the week before we get to all that, you know, cash app, it's simplest way to instantly send money to friends. It's also number one app in finance, and now it's the number one out for paying fantasy football league fees, the cash Abbas the official ward running listeners, fantasy football fee app, tweet your cash tag and how much you your league to at part of my take, and we'll hook you guys up with some free money, download the cash app for free on the app store or Google play market. You can do it right now. And like I always, I've been preaching, don't be the guy. We're already in week two. If you haven't. Paid your league fees for fancy football. You are the scumbag in your group of friends, download the cash app right now, and you can send your money very quickly. It links directly to your Bank account. You can get your paycheck deposited in there. It's super easy. It's the number one. Finance app voted by part of my take. So download it, tweet your cash tag and how much you owe to part of my take, download it in the apps store or Google play market is free. Okay. Let's go. Silence. Pardon? My. Keith day is Mondays temper seventeenth. Week, two. Nashville is where we begin people all over the world join hands started. Blaine train, Blaine, train point. Gabbard is back at quarterback. Yes, I read my notes correctly. Blaine gabbert is back at quarterback Marcus. Mario Kart was out after sipping on a banana peel last week, but great. Dane Cruickshank the Texans defense and Mike frail, yes, that same Mike Vrabel from Bill Bella checks. Footfall factory has his first win as a head coach, titans, twenty Texas, seventeen. Off the pitch perk as Casey in to put on a show and all my. Andy Reid has been waiting for someone like Pat Mahomes Travis poor Kelsey was doing all the small things, right? And number seven took his time and hurried up. Please tell pent. This is not his phone. Dammit. Steelers fans have to be sick to their stomach. Well, I guess this is throwing up. It's only week too, but if you link the Steelers have done a one eighty two degree turn from last year. Forty two Steelers thirty, seven third got him. They say, ties like kissing your sister, but they never said anything about kissing your cousins. Kirk that is though Vikings went to the frozen tundra where injured air Rogers wasn't Adam feeling his knee at all. Couple dues will have that affect know the digits for maybe that nice give you nice palm, get the does he had the did. It is Vikings kicker. Dan hot Carlson, took a crap on every fighting fans chest. When he missed three kicks could've won the game and the Chinese counter. It's the year, the dog in the American football Pounder. It's the year of Donovan McNabb Vikings Twenty-nine Packers also twenty nine, nice job. You fucking kickers, weight, boom, yet each. It's another time. Yeah. We go down to the big easy as the Browns, missed two field goals and PAT nice job fucking kicker. Brown's wind comes once every seventy five years and Haley's comet was about to spew his gaze from cafe to maul all over the sidelines drew fleas was itching for victory and Sean Payton wanted his quarterback. So he could spit on the commerical around Michael Thomas, the tank engine was versa. The saints off, it's catching passes. Like Terry, catching beats, mardi gras the peer coolers and Cleveland state locked for another week as the saints where busy bug lighting up the win column Cisco bucks. We had to Atlanta where the dirty birds meet the pussycats in battle for the NFC. So Matt saving private Ryan was able to find four brothers in the red zone for touchdowns as Colonel. Steve Sarkissian avoid getting dishonorably discharged for these. What more Carey, Tevin Coleman. Ask what you talk about willingness to run the football as he sketched through the Panthers defense for a hundred seven yards in a you game came, I am stuck eating green eggs at a loss. After this one talk, it's thirty one pet or twenty four. Standing on the corner Jameis Winston, Tampa, Florida, such upon sight to see it's a bad by getting raid, saw two top of the NFC come on. Again. And your harbors he's. The FOX win. Again, twenty seven twenty one in hot humid, Jacksonville, Wego pray for the sweaters out there as temperatures reached ninety plus a kick little tip from the swamp. If you wear a white and sing eagles, your sweat goes gross. The phony real fast Keelan coal under pressure shine the diamond as Blake plastic bottles. Ask the haters you believe in miracles, throwing four touchdowns all the weight of victory somewhere. My former colleague Trent Dilfer is asking is this the end of the patriots dynasty? Well, Trent, I have a little song there for you, Maggie. I wish I'd never seen your face. I'll get on back home one of these days. It makes absolutely no sense. Shut up. Teach jugglers. Thirty one pitcher twenty. We punish in western buffalo as San Diego, super Tartars walked into route Welson to square off of Josh Allen and his pick puff Lewitt Melvin flash Gordon superpower for. So it's honorable. They literally made buck day Davis for tyrod halftime. Trust Ray Allen, and his unlimited range and asked pills fans. When you've asked her about your tongue or your click and switching back and forth. From my dick to my Tunga pills fans are not available to comment on account of drunkenness, it's looking Blake of buffalo. Just remember. No one circles away is like the buffalo all right week to in the books, and we had a crazy week to another another. The kickers were the story of week two, we had nineteen miss kicks, the Browns, miss. Another kick. The important kick, the actually missed three kicks important Packers Vikings game. Dan, Carlson missed three kick. He missed an important one, obviously in overtime to win the game Mason. Crosby mystically kick by the way skills. Did you see this? He's been on fire. He did the Bill Belichick more like smell check. That's pretty good. So good. We're gonna get some more about some added. Graham work had a busy weekend, but he had this. This is my, this is our favorite because this is not only king, stay kings, but a skip Bayless still fucking that chicken Mason crossbar made a fifty six yarder a fifty one yard to beat the Cowboys in that playoff game. But naturally, he missed the game winner from fifty two. After his first successful kick wiped off by Vikings. Timeout skips like a character in like a horror movie that just he like pauses still frame and his mind flashes back on acid trips to that one play, you'll never forget that one kick by little tip. Skip how about missing Crosby's right there in front of your face. That's a good one in that skip. So we had. So the kickers were the big story of the week, but we also have an I. I wrote this down. I think this is the first time we've gotten to. Two week too, because usually you can tell almost instantly. Okay. These teams definitely suck. And these teams are going to be definitely be good actually only have two teams that definitely suck. Okay, so it's the bills? Yup, the cardinals, yes. Yeah. And that's it. Like even the Steelers who are now, oh one and one. Got, I mean their defense look terrible, Patrick Mahomes. You still would say the Steelers are going to be there at the even the Texans that our own to still say that the like to Shawn Watson, even though he had maybe the like the lowest situational awareness of ever seen a player have when he ran past line of scrimmage, then back back in the Heinlein scrimmage to try to throw a ball when he had seventeen seconds only is field goal. Even they, I would say, are still going to be in the conversation later in the well, you know, it is it's pumpkin season. So this is the time of year where you keep waiting for teams to turn back into pumpkin. So they kept flashing that stat, like, you know, own two teams make the playoffs at like a clip of what fifteen percent, something like that. I don't know. They played like a million times as you probably know. The exact number, but yes, but there's so many teams out there that I'm like pumpkin turning back in yet, right? You're staying out past their bedtime. They're missing curfew. Even the lions who are in two, they took my my, I basically challenged all their manhood and they said, hey, you quit a map partitioning said, no, we didn't big cat. We're gonna. We're gonna show out for coach and credit to Matt Patricia for turning his hat around and actually looking like a real head coach yet they, I would say they're sees is not you and Colin cowherd are the two front experts on hat. Sabermetrics in America, he likes going on cabernet on Romo on Matt Stafford, longtime tradition of his. But yeah, they look, they look better. The Browns. Are I get? I guess the Browns are okay. Frisky frisky frisky there and you know what? Every single Browns loss hits a little bit harder after hard knocks. It really does like I keep. I was rooting for them. I was standing up in my living room screaming at them for them to make that last field goal, which everybody knew that they were going to miss of course. But I there one of those teams that they're not back into pumpkin yet they could. One, both of those games yelp Todd Haley has my daughter out in his Camaro and you know, Todd Haley is not coming back before you absolutely has. No, I've so they're, they're going to stay in. I think the going to be we striking here what you. So we already said that they're gonna win the division. Jyrki last week on the show you said the Todd Bowles was a top ten coach after one win? No, still think to Todd Bowles atop. Okay. Everybody knows the dolphins always play the jet stuff. Yeah, everyone knows that you think Josh Gordon could help them in that game? Yes. Maybe we're going to bring up Josh, and we're gonna get some inside information from Mike floor, and I'll give you want me to just give you the inside fish right now. They're bringing broken Robak back then you the roster. Oh, yeah, exactly. Josh Gordon gonna be interesting, see where he goes. I like that the Browns have decided that they are now in a position of power and being like, we're not going to treat them to an AFC team. I don't think you have a choice. Browns would happen was John Dorsey said we're gonna cut him right? And then it's, it's totally it's a foreign concept for the Browns to have a player that so talented that other teams might want him. So they're just used to cutting guys not having to worry about trading. And then he was like, oh shit. When he's playing, this might be like a top three guy in the league. So I guess other people want them. And if you're anything like me, your first reaction was the fucking patriots are going to get them? Yeah, probably, yeah. Probably be great for them. But just foreign foreign for the Browns Browns usually trade their first round pick from two years ago for seventh round pick. Yeah. And so this is like up? Yeah, a player to get him like it would with Brock is like paid the Texans. Take on Brock contract. Yes, a great financials. Brockton. He's done Miami, right? Yeah. He's a winner thought he was back in Denver, they're going well. He's going to be back in Denver at Denver. No, he's a Miami, but he's like, he's like a college kid. He's just gonna find his home around like the holidays come back to his laundry, John Elway coz forum Tanna he'll be back in Denver, tan hills, looking good. So the big question though, coming from week to it's a question that we all have to ask ourselves, are we really do this Ryan Fitzpatrick thinking, oh yeah, because not only did he win again beat the Super Bowl champion eagles, but he also revealed like the swaggie is look. A Harvard man has ever had. Yeah, and he's got. He looks like a beefier Conor McGregor to bullets for. Fook and nothing got chains. He's got the beard. He's got the the chest hair popping. I don't know what's going on with Ryan Fitzpatrick, but I am ready much case keenum last year where we had to ask ourselves many times case keenum are we really doing this Ryan Fitzpatrick if he wins week three, how can they sit them? I don't think that they can bring James back anyway. Like the the reports guy with Sean Jackson, I'm Reggie Jackson loves him. Gave him his clothes afterwards. It'll wife swap with his outfit. Oh, that's how that's why looks swaggie Sean Jackson. Sean Jackson, and then the offense alive. And like you saw do the little eskimo kiss with the with beard? Yup. Before the game that was cool. Yes. That's the one thing that I'm really missing out on by not being able to grow beard is not. I can't walk up to my good friends and just rub my just share license each. Yeah. Yeah, that's that is a big mess. Patrick Mahomes thank God. I got on the right side of history before week to because he is trying to tell you read is like this is I hope any read some. They would Super Bowl if he does what Patrick Mahomes could be. So this is Andy Reid season. We are in the middle of primary before it gets like past the holidays. He gets fat from thanksgiving. They need to hibernate through like a bear. It's right January. He Andy Reid always wins the game after his by. And everyone says Andy Reid always wins the game by. And then it starts the the fourth quarter of the season where any Reid starts to panic and not realize how what? What's due at the clock. That's when everything you wanna talk about swag. Any Reid had some swag about him today? Yeah, he had. He. He went with the the half sleeve back. Aggie shirt. I don't know even what you call that it's jacket, but it's just a half sleeve. He looks great in that. He got a little son. His face was like just as red as shirt. Soner future many cocktail. It might have been couple of times. Right. A couple of those famous Pittsburgh. Dockers? Yeah. We any read in in Pittsburgh and general. That's a city that, yeah, he was pretty much born there. Yeah, we have von Davis retiring at halftime. Pulling the old John crock, John crook. Did this John crook actually told everyone that he going to do this beforehand. Monty, Davis told no one. He at time he was like, okay, so we're down twenty to six. We're getting the shit kicked out of us. I have five million guaranteed the season. Yeah, I'm just gonna pack my shit and leave and send out a tweet later saying that I retired. Yeah, listen win. You know, you know, that's what they always say with veteran like that. He I guarantee he like made plans with with his wife the night before, and she was like, don't you have a game tomorrow? He was, let's go out for lunch. More games, I think can get lunch late late lunch. The it is is going to be a long season for bills fans. I, I want to. We everyone knows that we love bills fans, especially we love Josh Allen, and he had a couple. Throws today that were that showed off the Josh Allen rocket. But when you have a player retiring at halftime of game because you're getting the shit kicked out of you so bad, that's a long season coming this. This is too. That's a long this isn't week fifteen like, okay, I'm gonna pack it up. I, you know, I, I have a bunch of nagging injuries this. We to fund David Stephen play week one, right? He played half. He was ready to go, you know, into the sunset. Well, my theory is that he just saw he saw the writing on the wall when he asked to go up against Josh Allen everyday practice. He's like, that's gonna be a long season. This guy's gonna be torching me. He didn't want any part of that can be a big embarrassment for him. I put the blame squarely on the shoulders of head coach, Sean McDermott for removing the ping pong tables and the locker room. And I mean, if you're onto MAC, it's like what even today, this Davis would even have to play for point, right? This is also lack no matter what drafter you literally don't forget. I don't. Yeah. This is reminiscent of coward as well when he. Tired and he told the press in buffalo came to locker amassing about his retirement said, hold on. I gotta grab some from my truck and then just like. Davidson. Just he should've told his coach. I'm going to go to the store for cigarettes and milk. Yeah, exactly. I gotta go see about a girl and then just boom and movie Hanky readies talking about the the most impressive performance from week to try far. Blake Bortles ever heard of the people's quarterback. The man who gets unnecessary hate from all types of media, except for this podcast, four touchdowns three hundred seventy seven yards was doing the the full Blake affect running passing. It was awesome. He was happy. His bald spot was popping. Yeah, it was great. See, Blake in his element and I'm very happy for. I'm extremely happy for Blake to spin moves. He was putting on out there just as Yup. It was like, who needs Leonard net? When you got Blake at their run the rock. Are you ready Hank to do the everyone freaks out about the patriots, even though everyone knows, they'll probably be in the AFC championship game too l. it's coming. I'm excited for it. I mean, I was having for Blake, the patriots always lose these games in September, doesn't. Never matters coli till stat. Tom Brady is one in six lifetime when temperatures are over ninety degrees. Oh, okay. So put the Super Bowl in Mexico like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So are you ready freak out? No, I got another stat from this from Tim Whelan on Twitter said the last three years and what's the patriots SuperBowl. They lost by double digits within the first four weeks doesn't if you are, if you are media member or someone who freaks out like this is the end of the patriots, you're fucking idiot because the it is now happened like Hank just said many, many times and you can't fall for it over and literally one of the first things I said when I came into the office though, is this gonna be the end of yet? Because everyone's just sitting there waiting salvaging four, but you you if you fall for the trap at this point, you are the dumbest person in the world because it's, it's like, one of those situates I'm on LeBron like when is LeBron stopped winning each? Well, he'll stop winning east when he goes to the Lakers not a moment. I'm all he's not going to lose in the east when he's in the east this year that the the dolphins when the. Yeah, tried I tried to play. It's the best thing to try to do. Yeah. The patriots, honestly, win the division going seventy nine probably yeah. If anyone's going to dethrone Bill from the f. c. would be portals. Yeah. Did say he's one of one of the best quarterbacks because of how he can run anthro. Here's one thing that you can't take away from it. Absolutely. Though the Jaguars defense is going to be frill rob gronkowski. You can look at what happened with rob today. So that's like the canary in coal mine for how good of defenses they shut down. Rob gronkowski. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Shut him down. Like that defense is scary. Yes, absolutely. The the only thing that will stop them as is injury at this point in terms of defense, and they will be there other f- like last year in the AFC championship. Okay. So we need to talk about the rest as well, because we'll bring this up with Mike Florio, but the new roughing, the passer rule where the body weight rule. Now I know Packer fans are going to be like, wow, we should have won that game clay Matthews bodyweight rule. No, you should've won that game because Mike McCarthy's a fucking idiot, work the clock at the end of the game and had to pass plays when you could've made Minnesota burnt out. So don't do that. But the rule is bullshit because clay Matthews clearly, like if you can't tackle a quart. Quarterback anymore. I don't know what I don't know what they do with football, Kirk cousins, just such an innocent, looking guy that anytime you hit him, you're like, that can't be fair, right? Like he's shorter shorter now. Listen to create headphones guy. Yeah, that was total horse shit, but I don't know what you're supposed to do. If you're defensive player, if you if you're trying to quarterback. I think my theory was you could puke in mid air to get most of your body weight like, or get rid of somebody way where you land on even worse because clay Matthews actually in a hate to defend the Packers, clean Matthews, put his arm out to actually brace his body weight and they still call it. I think it's just Matthew is that a reputation call call absolutely reputation saying clay clay Matthews player. We're gonna go. Yes. My last note that I think it's more because I, the problem with the Green Bay Packers is the governor that fullback. So record player and this is kind of karma biting in the ask for that. Yes. The last note that I wrote down the falcons, the falcons finally played their best game of the two thousand seventeen. Two thousand eighteen season four touchdowns in four red zone trips. I don't know what's Sarkissian was drinking known answer that. Yeah, what he had them homing don't get, don't get Josh Gordon down there. That's all I'm gonna say, and they also to them, they remember that they drafted wide receiver with the first round pick Calvin release credits, the falcons. I think this is finally the time that Matt Ryan makes the leap from the ninth best quarterback in the league to eighth best quarterback. So he's at the bottom of the top tier now? Yes, still? Yes, correct. But just shitty enough to not be at the. He's like his upper lower middle class. It actually now that I'm thinking about it, the Mendoza line, you know, Mendoza line in baseball. It's just a Philip rivers line. Would you take? Would you take said quarterback, overfill rivers, if you would that he's an elite quarterback if you wouldn't, then he is sucky quarterback rivers, straddles that line perfectly one one week. He's the best any looks believable in the next week. It's like what? The hell's high watermark, the rivers. I like to call it. So fill rivers it. Yeah. So ask yourself that you have a quarterback and you wanna know. If your quarterback is elite, ask yourself, would you trade them in in a must win game for fill rivers tomorrow. Okay. Cam Newton, you see the shot that he took today? Yeah, holy shit, he? Yeah, very, why don't they just give the ball to Cam Newton every single time that it's like third and four and just say, run straightforward and yeah, run straight for to make your head as big as possible because someone will go after. Yeah. Well, why don't they throw a flag on Cam Newton? Yeah, you could say that he provoked it as true at floating. Big pumpkin had he's a big bobblehead around ready to get. He does get it more than any gets he gets hit so much shack rules. Yeah. Are we ready say that the Niners are back? Are they good again? I think letting the lines back in that game makes me pause. I'm gonna pause for second. Do I did like what I saw out of? I mean that that offense is so hard to defend an end. The line, especially have defensive lines do, but it's I feel like every single plays the same. It's a rollout and Jimmy g. has one option. Then he just looks back. And there's another option like halfway back on the field and its thirty yards down this wide open every single play. That's like how Shanahan's thing. Yeah, he gets you in bootleg split cuts field in half guys that are just running like basically the same route at different links in there all open, Matt, Patricia, kept being like, come on wins. It's going to get back to like the Super Bowl play calling right? Where where you just forget about your good player. I'm gonna circle. I think they are the, they're exactly kind of what I expected their their defenses in all the way there yet. But Jimmy g. a. no longer in my fraud pile which I was knee-jerk reaction. Yeah. Well, I think they're, they're just bad enough to make all the people that shows. As their darkhorse look bad, which that's, that's all I wanted out of this team was for them not to prove like the big group think correct. Yeah, and I didn't see. I didn't watch see how Joe Staley played, but I'm assuming sucked. Yeah, he got. He did the fake spin move on. You see that times fence stinks, new, you you got, you got again Joe mcglinchey by the way that dude is huge. I like when we're, that's one of those things where we sat next, we interviewed him and I kind of lost track of how big it was. Yes, but when you see him on the field around other huge guys like that is just like, that's just a mountain of food. Yeah, he was doing amount. Nepal is born. He has football name is born to play. Mike mcglinchey offensive tackle Notre Dame was written on his incubator. Exactly. So that is weak to anything else we missed anything else? We wanna talk about anyone. How one's fan? The Rams are boringly. Good. Yeah, we'll, the cardinals are very, very cardinals are off. Yes. And is it time for Josh Rosen? Yeah. And it was awesome. Watching the Rams not have a kicker and basically playing chip Kelly football all afternoon where they go for two. And then they brought in Johnny Hecker recurring guests who actually kicked a field goal. So I, I love nothing else than watching like position players kick on, especially on the day that everyone missed field goals, he hid feel. Yeah. So that was very nice wrinkle. What's your prediction tonight? Daniel, I think the bears, as I said, not a need, not me overreacting to the loss against the Packers. I, I called it the most important game in franchise history and as such, I think they will win. Okay. Because Bryner lacquers getting think he's getting a ring or something at halftime. So that's they're not gonna lose season over? No. Well, it's only actually said it's the most boring I was. I was actually like I was all in on what big cower saying until he justified it with the most big cat reason of Orlando. Erlach is getting into the ring. They're not gonna lose them serious. The crowd is going to be in sync, right? Yeah. On you. That's exactly that's a, that's a difference right there. I think the bears are gonna win. I'm eager to see a Carson run for little yards as I predict not on that defense. Yes, you see if Mitch can through left, that's all I'm looking for. That's what I'm gonna have my eyes peeled for the entire night. Okay. Let's do all our guy the week. We have a star studded cast. We actually we're not gonna nominate coach. Oh, because I don't think that he wanted this video to get out, but it got out because one of his players pulled a Pittsburgh Steeler move, Antonio Brown, move in periscope, his post game locker room speech, which is obviously very impassioned because it is coach, oh, they had an awesome win on the planes against Auburn and he said, fuck them to assume the haters. Yeah, is the haters is directed and all the haters which they're meant so it could be the national media. It could be the people that signed the petition to free Mike, the tiger who knows it could be, but I was shocked for I for one in disappointed. Football coaches use profanity. Yes, but disgusting. This is. I'm gonna enjoy the hell out of this little run LSU's going on because album very, very good. And we have a Monday reading about it at our wagon, but LSU like coach o. the entire talk about the SEC was coach owes joke. He's not going to the LSU's going to be bad this year. You hired an interim? Uh-huh. That CoCo? Do you think that when they were explaining the periscope thing coach, oh, was like actually put a pair of scope, Ryan new spot, new four. He definitely was very confused when that was brought to his tent. No, that that victory was awesome. So cool to see them win in the last second. Then the little like chest bump that he did with the cop. Yes. They were on the midfield used ready to wrestle that middle of the stadium and the cop was like into it. Yeah, let's go what we do down here coach. Oh, just like his enthusiasm is contagious. It's yeah, some people shake hands. Some people do high-fives coach. Oh, just like puts his bare Paul on your shoulder and treasure vastly. Yeah, exactly. All right here. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So I up we have BC I think he's linebackers coach, Ricky Brown. So this clip will treat it out with this PC made a big tackle against Wake Forest, and he came like a bat outta hell running full speed on the sideline in essentially tackled his own player just because he was so excited about the play super up for and why not? Yeah, I liked it. I actually think that if you're if there's going to be one position coach that should be allowed to do that to linebackers. Absolutely. It was funny on Oklahoma drill against his own player. That is when your passion for the game becomes so like it peaks to such a level that you almost hurt. Your own players. That's the truce that's Mark football next up. We had Georgia state coach who tore his bicep. Fist bumping against this happened last week, NC state. They were up seven to nothing at the beginning of the game. He fist pumped towards by some in the game. I don't think that's football guy move really too much celebration. Okay. Yeah, but you celebrate so hard that you hurt yourself. That's kind of a if you if you hurt yourself because you're trying to keep your players and coaches from running past the sideline. You're mad at your players for celebrating too much reporting them to get back. 'cause it's still the first quarter and that's how you Tori by something that's football game of, okay. I still don't get me wrong. I like his enthusiasm. I'm looking at the guy right now and he's it may all make sense because he's got a face where it looks like you have a stroke from yelling so hard, so it, no, that he towards by something this wanna see more effort he uses tricep. Yeah, we next up. Have another. Recurring Hancock. I got it. We, we have a Pat FitzGerald. Another recurring guest who said that RPO is the purest form of communism. So he's sick of RPO's. He's sick, run, pass options. He says, he doesn't understand how offense of lime can be downfield in and be blocking downfield like while you while you're handing off and everything like that. So he is, I don't understand what he's saying. RPO in communism kinda don't really make sense together well, but it's also great football guy because it's like history books stopped in the Cold War. So it's RPO bad. What else is bad communism is buried credit to him for not calling Nazism, right? That's that's one step further more advanced than I thought he would. But I, I guess, like the spread of communism, you have your downfield blockers, like domino theory. I don't know what it is. The bottom line is he doesn't like it. No, he doesn't like your bad. You know what? I almost wish you had gone with Mickey Mouse. I was. She said, like this is Mickey Mouse offense. Mickey Mouse? Yeah. Okay. And then ladder? Cute. That was that was actually a big point of conversation around college football and in the NFL this weekend. A lot of announcers saying, again, too cute with it instead just run the football death row on the full time. You have misdirection your offense. You're just getting cute because you don't think you can beat them hat on miss the days ahead on fat football. Okay. This last one. This one is I I like this one the most. I'm not trying to, you know, change votes here, but pit do that. Okay. Well, hey, thank you and I as peop- as two members of winning mount Rushmore summers, we take together. That's true. I came in second place both times. I don't know if that's true saying hit tight end coach, Tim, Salem, the man who opens mountain dew, leaves it in the fridge over night to enjoy it flat. The next morning he has not left. A team facility since arriving early Sunday morning after Penn State law lost Penn State and he just stayed in the team facility for days on end. Yeah, it's called sitting Shiva. Yeah. Well, and he also said they asked him why any basically was like, I don't wanna get nagged by my wife. He said, I still, if you had one that game, would you still be there? I'd still be here when I go home late at night, it's Honey. Can you change the light bulb? Can you move this out of the garage? No, I don't wanna change no light bulbs. I'm not moving nothing in the garage, so I don't wanna go home. I don't have to do that stuff. The Honey to do list is gone because I'm right, not there. Visit my sanctuary rate here. You've got to try it. It will work. Just don't go home ever. I think you just need to have a divorce dude. Yeah, just very, very unhappy with this is I, I guess maybe now I'm reading this may not be football guy week. It might just be time time to have honest conversation with your time to move on. Yeah, he's guys don't have those conversations. Deal with. He's like, I hate going home every time my wife is like, hey, can you remove the lead-based paint? We've got his bestest in the baby's needs to be taken care of Jesus. Just let me coach football. Let me just sit here for eighteen hours. And then he also said a little part of you dies every time we lose a football game. That's fair. Yeah, I think that's actually true. Absolute. Talk about Trump's battery theory where he thinks that the human body has a finite amount of energy. So yet he after you have to like, I guess, just like chill out a lot. Not exercising live a lot longer. Yes, I agree with that. I think that that, you know, if you lose too many football games, you just end up dying name. One coach in NFL history that has never died. I actually don't know. Bill check Weber die. Every coach will die. Not every coach truly lives. Yeah, yeah. And then some die on the field? Yeah, which is actually very, very true football guy. Okay. I wanna give an honorable mention for football. We I agree with you, I think, okay. Yeah, I'm gonna go with pits titan coach on that. Yeah, that's pretty vote will put up the vote at part. My take follow in vote is chip Kelly and honorable football guy, four for making his team practice during the game. He had his players doing like, oh, jumping Jackson, like little mini wind sprints and calisthenics on the sideline because we're giving enough effort. I think that just as shitty team, he's Owen three. First time, Owen three. He's ever started season Owen three in all his coaching, and I don't know if having them pro, I feel like having your team practice like a JV baseball move. Well, it's like being that plays when you're three and and you play that letdown game against, you know, Samford or Kennesaw state. And you're like, okay, the guys aren't focused. We're gonna make instead of halftime. We're up by forty five, but they're not focused at halftime. We're gonna make them practice not when your own three and you actually need every bit of energy that you have to try to win this football. He's also had a lot of injuries, so he's taking a game that he's losing probably because he doesn't have a lot of his starters out there. Karate's blaming it on his backup players, not putting enough effort. That makes a ton of sense. Yeah, that's a football guy also doing chip Kelly's fatter, not yet. I've been hot on this case for the last three years and I can't figure it out. No, I think he's just pudgy. Okay. There's a different portly. Yeah, poorly pudgy that there's a difference. Okay. Yeah, he's one step away from being husky, which is still one step away from being fat guy husky, not fat. So let's do our VO Frey football guy star. Who's back the week? Who's back weeks brought to you by the new Bud Light lime and orange. They're out now brewed with real orange in line peels famous among friends. It is football season. You're sitting on your couch, maybe you're going to the bar to watch some games, get a Bud Light lime and orange. It is. Delicious. Refreshing the best beer to watch football with Bud Light, lime and orange. Thank them. They're a great sponsor famous among friends. Okay. Who's back the week? Hank wants to get us going back the week is disgusting. Internet fake news reports. Uh-huh. Go on. I went on Twitter this morning and saw the max b was trending. I couldn't click. His grandson nail the rapper. Okay. Tweet saying that he's getting released from prison today. So I put him on my who's backlist immediately after doing a little bit more research later in the day I found out that it was fake news and then he's not actually getting out to two thousand twenty five. That's that's a rough one. So how how did that get mistaken? That seems like a pretty big the internet? No, it's it's not. It wasn't. It was someone on the internet with thought they're being funny, not they're playing with people's pranksters. Yeah, Qadam. It's fucked up. Yeah, that is in jail for. Think armed robbery, assault. It was armed robbery. Okay. So just guns. And so you just. Was kind of person. Do you rob like another rapper or was it just drug related Titi. Rob that that's fair enough. Yeah, check advanced place because that's fine. I'm okay if you did that. Yeah. Hey, you know who else robbed people Wall Street. Yep. Collapse eight. Yeah, so we will be on two thousand twenty five, so. Okay, good. You just tell me who's back two thousand twenty five next to rule in America armed robberies. Okay. Until the CEO's of major banks get thrown in jail. Yes. As declared by me, you can do it Marshall earn the opposite of martial law. Yeah, not more the purge. It's the purge anarchy. We're anarchist now. Okay. PT go ahead. My who's back of the week is announced as relating kickers to golf swings. So a lot of these football guys get up in the booth and they don't really know anything about the kicking game, but they do know that when kickers miss a bunch of extra points and field goals that it's a lot like their golf swing and how like they opened up their hips too much and push it wide right. Yeah. So I, I just wanna I wanna kicking analyst who doesn't even try to know what's going on with the kicking game. Like I want Tony Siragusa to be the kicking guys, these kickers Haley. He's give me heartburn. Yeah, Todd Haley up there and be like this guy fucking socks. Yeah. This guy's this guy probably didn't have sex, lose twenty two. That's his problem. Yeah. So they just really fun, especially in that like three hour time span where everybody was missing every field goal, and they were just talking about golf swings. This credits kickers though. I don't know. They're probably not unionized. They should because they're just the nerds of the NFL, but credit to them for all sucking at the same time, therefore spreading out the blame. Well, we had a theory last year. If you remember when there was like a, there was a rash of overtime. Arash of ties last year to that Roger Goodell was trying to save football or at least appear like he was the good guy by having all this kickers. Miss these easy field goals. Said he could come in and change the rules and get rid of ties altogether. So maybe maybe he's doing that again who I don't actually yet we get back on that. All I love ties now I'm gonna. We don't get a tie. I'm a huge, huge tie guide us. No fence Moore holiday time. There's a game that's tied in the fourth quarter. Now I'm just thinking, please, please time my other who's back of the week is Jonathan monitors a little bit early for this. Usually we don't get into giant thermometer season till November, December, win the temperatures get really low. But in the LSU Auburn game, it was up at as funny because the thermometers are on the field. So they're not measuring the air temperature measuring like what it is in the black pellets. Yeah, right down the dig like ten feet underground and measure there, and it's one hundred twenty degrees and they're one hundred twenty degrees on the field in Jacksonville as well. So there are, I think, like six or seven from each game. I think there were three or four journalists that would take pictures of these giant thermometers tweet him out now that I'm thinking about it too. They put the giant thermometers right behind the enormous air conditioners like the actual machines that are. Do you know the that are pumping out cold air to the players but pumping out super hot air backwards. Yeah, they put them right there, so it's really good. Yeah. And then in Syracuse, they had a thermometer that was, I think it was behind the benches there as well, but it was the carrier dome named after the guy who invented air conditioning. Yep, and they don't have air conditioning inside the carried them. So it was like eighty five degrees. It's all the hot takes journals in the audience. My who's back. It's suicidal big cat and it was a bad week. I was wondering if we're going to get to this, of course, we're gonna get to it. I wasn't going to run from it. I actually had conversations with my friends yesterday whether or not I can still root for the university of Wisconsin. That's how low I was after that game because I always expect Wisconsin to lose, but to lose his twenty three and a half point favorites at home fucking BYU. Those soaking Mormons just putting their Dixon pussies and just sitting there, how do you have that happen? I mean, that's kind of what the university of Wisconsin does. That's what their football team does every year. They just so coupon and mouth and you never know. We'll keep that in just mayo mup-. They never finished their soaking squad. I do like I felt frustrated like BYU's coach though. Yeah, he's great. Great time. Yes, I think he loves to there is a spit. Well, well, first of all, this was I actually kind of had a weird premonition. This was going to happen when the bears loss to the Packers on Sunday night. And then the brewers played the cubs on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, in the brewers beat the cubs, two out of three. And I was like, Wisconsin sports are riding high, and the only Wisconsin sports you my root for is definitely gonna lose so is just the perfect perfect way to cap off just a shitty week sports for me. And I, there is there's once. Fucking here. What about Brian Urlacher skin? I wouldn't cap the week off yet though. The cap on just in case cap the week. It's a new week, capped it. The one silver lining is I the, I, I know I'm gonna get let down might as well do it early now. It's just free football. It's free football, Ohio state's going to be in the final four people. I even had a few like, hey, you guys could still win out. No. Listen the, the one, the one, redeeming quality about Wisconsin badger football fans is we're, we're realist to a fault. I never were not were out of the national. You know, it's not gonna happen. It's not going to happen. We could win every game and it still wouldn't happen. It would rightfully not happened as you can't lose as twenty three and a half point favorites. So now it's just free football. Just try to win a bunch of games. Go play in a fucking January first Rose Bowl for the Bill or outback bowl for the billionth year in a row finished like ten in three rinse, repeat. We'll do it again next year. And has fun along the way. Yeah, really drunk at the game. Great. You'll have a great time. This is actually in being the best thing that ever happened. Speaking of the big ten, did you see Thomas these sit down with urban Meyer? Oh yeah. Wherever mired based eating really say anything. Nobody thought that he did say something. He said that his wife never told him Texas, which was the most obvious defense that he was gonna use. Well, Shelley and I never talked about not true, not true. We we've been married for forty years and we never talked about my assistant possibly beating his wife. If this in having the wife text might wife and we never talked about pits. Tied-in coach should've included that as list of reasons to never go home, get asked to move stuff around the garage by wife, doesn't tell me about my system coaches, domestically, abusing Faust cover anything off cover about. I don't. I just noticed today, but Tom, Rinaldi, man, that guy has some crazy is that guy looks like Tom, that's the he looks like he has rabies. Yeah, like he was ready to just pouts over Meyer. Maybe just wanna. Fuck them. I don't know his eyes. I'm telling you it wasn't. I say, I love the tone of these interviews. The re the redemption interviews. Let's go to his house a mask them some. I'm going to hold this piece of paper. You see these questions right here. You see these questions. I'm not. I'm not letting you off the hook until I ask you all these questions that he asked like three of them in them. We move what has been the toughest part of this whole ordeal for you? Well. You know, I I, you know, have led a lot of people that are close to me down and that never shows kidding. We have these things in our program where we ever core values count ability, and the core values, you know, treat women with respect and certainly we wanna make sure that everybody does that at the state university. I games. Because I just missed my guys, miss being a role model to them and you know, the accountability I, it starts with me. I own. 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I'm not big into like banging drums, San, put me on, put me on, but I feel like it's been a really long time together had me on it was out of respect for you, Mike, because after the Washington capitalist beat the shit out of your Pittsburgh pigments up salt in your wounds. So I figured I'd like a little cooling off point. But yeah, we're glad to have you three months. That's good. I'll take three month mourning period. Football's back. So you're back, you know, we're, we're back in the family. You know, we're going to have you on every probably once a month. Talk. Talk shop, talk football because no one better than you at at that. And let's start with every twenty eight days you back. Mike aunt Florio. Yes, there we go. So Mike, let's start with the most salacious story of the weekend. Josh Gordon tell us exactly what happened. He got. He was chasing a Drome. You tell us tell us exactly what you know. Give us. The sources gives the Mike Florio car washer. Bottom line is the Browns had this guy for seven years now, and they had so many regime change that every time they didn't do coach and a new GM they call it love with the town guys, really town twenty thirteen sixteen hundred forty six receiving yards in fourteen games. Rainy terra loans. Never had that many yards in a sixteen game season. So the guy is good. And you know if you really good, you get second chance their chance for chance chance. And they just finally got the point with the decided they had enough, and there was a report that they thought they were something off with him yesterday, and I think they brought him back under a very, very clear arrangement that one false move and that's it. And now they've announced gonna cut him, but they're going to trade in my think because whether they intended this way or not. Now realizing why should we cut the guy? We can try to set up a bidding war for one of these teams out there, pick up a contract for seven hundred ninety thousands of pounds of the year and and we get something out on the back end even conditional draft picks. He's gonna be traded at some point on. Monday, and then the Browns wash the hands of them. And if the guy stays on the right side or whatever the league expects to do, he could still be really good. I mean, that's the thing that gets lost in all this. If the guy shows up and plays on a regular basis, he can be very, very good. He's never had a good quarterback. Imagine how good he could be if he had a great quarterback. So when you say great quarterback, what I'll tell you what we'll let you power rank the potential landing spots for reviewer to guess where's he going? I think that Seattle would be one of the teams because they're down to Keenan Reynolds who may place lot receiver for them on Monday night against the bears. I think the patriots would have to be considered a local wherever you know, the Browns very nervous about trading, Josh Gordon the AFC because Josh Gordon could be that you know that one ingredient that keeps the browse from getting to the Super Bowl, right? Other AFC teams for playoff positioning the, you know, the patriots are bringing in like a different receiver every day, and they cut a guy, and then they bring him in for a workout. Can you Brits coming back so think the patriots on that list. The forty Niners have acknowledged that they're interested in him. The Cowboys claim they aren't, but with the Cowboys you never know until you know, you know and based upon what they've done Sunday night, I guess they could argue they don't need him, but I'd say Seahawks. Patriots forty-nine is it'd be the three teams I'd watch darkhorse short Packers. Yep. But you know what? Close close. How about the Vikings because behind Adams feelings to fund digs? They don't have shit to really good wide receivers. Don't you try to get him on your team? I'd see what you're doing, but did you watch the game today? Liquan Treadwell drop three passes. You know, people earning plaguing fans or burning his jersey already. He'll stop passing the ball to Liquan Treadwell easy fix that. You need, Josh Gordon there. But if you get him in Green Bay, I mean they've been looking for a wide receivers since they got rid Jordy Nelson, but the Nida wide receiver up there and I know they're getting what's the name back Jones will coming back Green Bay. I think with John Doe not teams Jones. Mike come on. I'm talking about it would be a good place for him because it's there's nothing to do in Green Bay. Yeah, yeah, I look. I is about online. I I don't care if the guy smokes weed. I mean, I don't know what other issues going on with joy scored and I've heard he's been late a lot and the Browns decided they had enough and I'll look at it this way for as good as he. It had to been a lot of stuff for them to finally say enough to know so. So what did happen with the big cats chasing drone? Is that true? I didn't think about chasing drone. I mean he hurt his hamstring at promotional shoot on Friday night and the team wasn't involved promotional shoe that it. No, he was injured until he showed up the next day, and that was the thing that all of the money cause them to say enough enough, we're we're done. I'll say this little woke on it because the the footage of whatever promotional shoot he was at whatever brand it was that paid him show up. That footage is not worth a shitload of money, like everyone's gonna watch that commercial. Maybe maybe this is just like a big viral ad that will over tweet I saw was he was running routes against drone and then pulled his hamstring. Was it at the. Teams to syllabi. I think so. That was, I mean, now that that was a fan resources, so it could have been total bullshit. But I like to believe the first thing I read about something and never read anything else. So I'm gonna go with that. His drone racing. Yeah, Mike. Next question, Ryan Fitzpatrick lighting, the world on fire two part question one. How much money is Ryan? Fitzpatrick gonna make off of this and to just tell me that we can have a true quarterback controversy because if Ryan Fitzpatrick doesn't lose a game, are they really going to have James winsome, come in there and fuck up an undefeated season. Well, I mean, I think if he keeps winning and keeps playing away, you has is really nothing you can do. You have to stay with them. And now here's here's where it gets really interesting. And I think at this point it's grain or they play next Monday night against the Steelers. And the next day is when James Winston eligible come back to short week before they go to Chicago to play your bears, and they have a bye after that. I think at this point you have to go with its Patrick for the fourth game, plug in James Winston, as soon as he walks in the door pets playing like this. Now he could have four hundred next Monday night net changes everything the based on what we've seen so far and we assume they're going to be three in the games. Winston missed. And now here they are two and and they're looking good in. The Steelers will crap. I think they could be, you know, I think he got a ride with its Patrick for as long as you can. And that's a real question. You know, how will Winston handle it? What will he be a good teammate? Will he will he beaten ws on the sideline to support his guy? Or will he be trying to like jostle and clamor and and built dissension and get his way back on the field this, you know they call it good problem. Having good problems. Oh problem. Trade Martin, tending? Yes. But yeah, no, with Winston is gonna have a tough tough situation. If he comes back and you've got to stand on a silent and watch those games. I think the le- just gave him three weeks so that they wouldn't be forced to deal with prime time game between Ben Rothlisberger and James went to a lot of questions that we don't want to. You don't want that. Yeah. So you think that they're going to ride them through at least the by week, then? I like that. I get two weeks to get ready for the falcons. Put your three if you're four. No, right. If somehow by some Iroquois they defeat that juggernaut that is the Chicago Bears. Then you know, then you hope Patrick through the by week and you go, you go with Hispanic faculties. Okay. I like it. I want to move on real quick to some officiating talk. You ready for this. So clay Matthews in the game against your Vikings, you can admit that that was bad call. Right? You can omit the Vikings, should've lost that game? No, not because look, it's, it's the same call that was made the other way on the game for its burping. You gotta watch me on football night in America. It's not the body weight penalty. Everybody. Thinks the penalty was declared Mathews land with all or most of his body weight on Kirk cousins. There's another violation when you lift the quarterback in drive into ground the calls. Grounded births. I mean, it's very high tech phrase for it, but it's separate from the body weight thing. And that's what Tony Karenni the referee explained that it was lifting him off the ground and driving him into the ground. That's always been a penalty. That's not a new. So yeah, we're gonna either have to delete this part or the first part of the show. I talked about how all body weight because I still think that that's bullshit. I don't. I don't think that he burp them. I think it was just like, what are you supposed to do as linebacker? He was just like hitting him in his mid sex. You can't lift him honor cousins to get lifted off the ground. If tomorrow. And it's the same thing kendricks Dorados when you lift him up, watch the hands, the hands go down behind the knee, and they lift the guy up and drop them into the ground. They call it burping watching. It wasn't burping. I'm watching. It wasn't purposing. He was farting. Yeah, Kirk cousins was kind of almost in the air this. You know what this is. This is done. This is made football regular season like NHL postseason when they when you when you never know about like a OD the lifted he lifted skate up and they have these super zoomed in videos of guys skates. I know a little piece of such and the ice who didn't leave his feet. We're getting to that kind of stuff. And are they are they worried at all the NFL worried about, because these kind of hits these feel like just regular football hits and they are changing games. You want, you want a scorching hot take that is only half joking at because I think I think if this is going to continue with the NFL needs to do to eliminate any confusion because the goal is keep the quarterback south right. There aren't enough shitty quarterbacks to go around as it is. They don't want their quarterbacks to get hurt. And then you know, out forbid, somebody may have to call and Catholic, but I think it what they would need to do to avoid all of this. Just treat the quarterback like a punter kicker. Once the balls out, you can't touch him. Then there's no advocate now that would change the game dramatically, but we wouldn't be getting into these arguments because if you hit him after the balls out, then it's a penalty no matter what. And it's you could do a five yard and a fifteen just like they do with running into the kicker and roughing the kicker, but then you don't burping and farting and lifting body weight in any of this other stuff you got, you can if you tip the ball, that's one thing. But if you don't touch the ball and the ball's out and you hit the quarterback, it's a foul just like it is for punter and kicker. Nobody's fighting about any of this shit and there's no confusion going forward. We know what a foul, but that's also pretty much impossible to do for like a defense alignment to not. So when you're trying to block a kid possible, it's already a possible candidate. I'm high. You can't into moment if you hit him in the middle and you land on get out. So it's already. Impossible to play defensive line. You may as well make it completely impossible. So it's not impossible for stall figure out what the families. I don't wanna get too far into the Italian thing here, but I did notice that everybody that's defending this call. If you look across the spectrum, whether whether it's Mike Florio, whether it's dean blandino, whether it's Mike era, tourney gene s- territor I'm just saying there are a lot of house at the in. The names is this is this like an art thing? Cosa Nostra you have going on there. What are you talking about? Cosa Nostra business. That's things because the no stress. Your head give you some gab Google. So tell me Mike, the Steelers, are they as much of a mess as I mean, oh one and one, but it feels like things are teetering because you had the Levy on stuff. You have an Antonio, Brown threatening reporter. There was always the stories before the seat. You know, after last season, Mike Tomlin does he have control this team yet? Ben Rothlisberger bashing, Mason Rudolph in, you know, in in training camp, it feels like this whole thing is kind of teetering on the edge here. Is that what you're hearing from your sources? Well, yeah. I mean, it's clear there's dysfunction there, but we're missing the most obvious reason hiding in plain sight. The defense is horrible. Look at the game in the playoffs against the Jaguars and they were down twenty one, nothing in the first half at twenty eight. Seven defense is not holding up its end of the bargain. This team that used to be all defense and offense was good enough. Now, it's all offense and the defense is horrible. They got shredded by guy who's in his third NFL start. He's ninety two twenty three years old. He will be tomorrow, but still he's not twenty three when he did it and at home home opener and and they couldn't stop Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs. And this, this is a team that used to be well known for its defense. And now I, it's, it's just it's not, and and that's I think the biggest problem I'm impressed impressing that's still firing on all cylinders with all the dysfunction with bell. And within Tonio Brown and big bend has an oboe injury and he doesn't and they still sport thirty seven points and had a chance to win. And I think you're gonna have some dysfunction between offense and defense of these keeps up. Okay. All right. I'm. Gonna throw a couple teams out there for you, and I want you to tell me if it sounded press the panic button k. okay, first team I'm going to go with, let's let's let's get it started with. I think the bills have already met. They've phoned it in on the season. So I'm gonna go with the Philadelphia Eagles. I don't know that repressive panic, but I had a lot of injured guys. Carson Wentz supposedly coming back this week. We'll see how with what's on the field in hindsight on surprising. I thought the falcons play the last Thursday night and and they still had a chance against the buccaneers today. Once they got, you know, down in deep deficit, they still had a chance to come back to win it. But the this whole thing isn't going to work long-term glints if he comes back, I think they can turn it around. I'm not ready to it yet with them. Okay. Not panicking. Okay. Okay. Houston. I'd probably panic, right. I mean, my concern is that it will be here all the time about how the fence is go and study to tape, and they figure out how to stop a hot quarterback, and you know, we didn't have that much Shawn Watson, we just assumed he was gonna show up this year with the healthy out in instantly be the guy that he was last year and he's not and look at the team. They played a day. They had no healthy tackles. They had Blaine gabbert quarterback and they still couldn't beat him that that's, that's. That's his big of a panic button. As you can have the Houston section, it's four, twelve last year and Bill Brenston that contract extension, you know if he had gotten that extension, I think he'd be down at the front of the hot seat list right now. Is it time to panic button on an individual Marcus mariota. Look, I, here's the thing about Marcus mariota physical style of play that he embraces. He's very big, you know, he's not sick. He doesn't have the bunny who stand the founding. So you know, to say, gets healthy, comes back and plays, and it gets hurt again. And then he gets healthy, comes back and plays any gets hurt again. And you know to be franchise quarterback, he'll be able to play, you know, and point there's that's a high level. When it came to meeting bucks. I mean, if you own on the field, then how are you ever going to be the guy that you're supposed to be? And that's key, staying healthy on a regular basis and more iota just can't speaking quarterbacks that can stay really, really healthy. Do you think it's time that they pull Sam Bradford out Amazon. I don't know why still in there, what a disaster to go from Bruce Arians and Carson Palmer to this mess that they've had the last two weeks to start season. I feel bad for Larry FitzGerald. I feel bad for everybody connected that organization. And you know somebody's gotta be the worst team at football right now. I think the bills and the cardinals are neck and neck for that distinction and they're declaring themselves pretty early in the season. If you had to guess win, Josh Rosen place. When do you think it's gonna be. I don't know why didn't put him into day. I don't get it. I don't understanding some point. You just got to see what the guy has. No, we'll say this. I talked to my own after the game and he he helped convince me somewhat of the idea that there's benefiting sitting and benefiting learning and benefit in watching. 'cause he told me a state of played him last year. He just go out there and he would have wing and he would have had a hard time and he wouldn't have a confident he has now and get so much more confidence can be able to sit and watch and learn. Now, I think part of that is injury learning Malik Smith being no, maybe for some of these guys there is value in in sitting out and learning if things are going well enough that you're actually learning something good. I mean, what the house, Josh Rosen, gonna learn this year how to get deep thirty points. So some point you just got to say, we believe in this training up for him. Let's put him out on the field with them having baptism by fire, and then maybe by next year figure it out. All right, sue. There is the big story that all seven new head coaches lost week one. Do you think there's any of those any of those coaches? I think Matt, Patricia, obviously, lost week to I'm trying to think of any other of the first year head coach, Steve, Wilco centers on. Do you think any of these first year head coaches have the possibility of getting fired in year one? We never talk about another man's job, but is that a possibility? Because I feel like this is the new NFL teams won't move on pretty quickly from coaches if they don't think it's working. I remember when Brown sparred ruptured gap to one year and everybody lost their minds and we let back and looked, and there's a lot of guys who have only made at one year so you can't rule out anything. It's all judged by what the expectations are the season. And you know for somebody for, I'm not gonna fire Jon Gruden after one year, but I think people expected something better in to coming out of the gates and to lose the game. They win that the way they did today blown the ball does not. It's not the is going to be in trouble, but you have to look at what was expected and what all the MO is delivered. And, and yeah, somebody fired off. To one year. I think it just depends on how big of a disaster it is. You know, you could see theory if this continues in Detroit more th the Firestone forge assist, screw giving everybody. Let's start over in one more time. All right. Last question for me to seek key question. We gotta ask it's the beginning of fantasy football season. Have you been doing well shut? No, no, no, no. I'm being serious right now. I wanna know who you have on your team. I'm not answering any. Forget it. I refuse to answer any. Are you playing. Why did you answer if you're playing a team. Your stupid ass 'push loan like, okay, home won't ask you. I'll tell you. I have a my team. Who do you have? I have. I've been Rothlisberger he's been doing not so great. Yeah, I actually have Pat Mahomes and I started to get the fifty two point eighty four points. Then do you have a c- question you have to answer points. We don't give a flight. I don't care. Team, you always talk about your team, you do you always wanna talk about your team. You want us to ask you to teams. I have to care, spoke, suck once the cardinals and the other one's the bills and nobody gives us ship thank God for that. Yes. All right. That was Seekie question can put him promo code. Take get slayed secrets really getting their money's worth. Absolutely. Yeah. Fuck. Yeah, they are what you put acid. Mike Florio fizzy team puts asses in the seats. One last question for me is Andrew looked back. He back. I don't know. I mean, I is it going to stay healthy. How. Today. Here's a thing, we, here's, here's what happens NBC we sit there and watch the games and he said, big Brady bunch, nine box thing and colts. Washington was the game up in the upper left hand corner, corny. Nobody gave shit about today. So I don't know how Andrew play. They watch the Packers Viking. We're watching chief Steelers. We're watching any game, but that when I'm surprised that one even they should have a little kids table for that game because nobody was paying attention necking the equivalent of all of my fantasy teams for the last ten years old in the one. Okay. All right. I really don't give back. Yeah. Mike, I actually have one last question to vaunted Davis key. Explain this whole situation. This is wild to the bills have to pay all that money. I has a signing bonus. They can get it back from him with like what he gets for two weeks. But you know, I remember the story of of stale seven. He was done like just like, man. All these other guys are fast and they're strong and it's like Lawrence, it's because you're not anymore. And, and for some of the guys at the harsher is if you team sucks, I think it makes it even easier to come to the conclusion games pastor by I gotta give credit for being self aware. He, you know he could. He could go through the motions and take money from the bills or he can say out and out. Okay, it's way to quit. That's got it. Yeah, that's got to be a weird weird situation when your teammates just bounds like that. Actually, while we're talking about weird situations, Levy on bell, like he, everyone hates him the Steelers condition, correct. Well, look. I don't know what in the hell is going on in the locker room. I think that you know a lot of times when you say things publicly, you can assume that they're just repeating the things they're hearing from the coaching staff, but that that Rasha comments from ten fifteen days ago when guys like Ramon foster and and Markey's pounds to your speaking, that almost never happens. And I think at this point, lady on bell is just gonna stay away indefinitely. I mean, it's goal is to avoid being overused, and if you happy to give up eight hundred fifty five thousand week to avoid being overused, then I don't know why he shows up at any point before his deadline for showing up which is the Tuesday after week ten. And I think he's quickly going to be out of sight out of mind. They got bigger problems than lady on on that team right now. And I think they're in the process of forgetting about him and turn the page and we'll see him whenever that whenever that week ten rolls around. I think we'll see him right around then because he's goal is to not put himself in a position where he's getting thirty to thirty five touches a game, and he potentially prevents himself from getting that gigantic. Payday, he thinks he's going to get next March. Okay. All right. One last question for me. Hugh Jackson, probably maybe going to be on the hot seat at some point this season who's gonna win that power struggle is gonna be Todd Haley or Greg Williams because that's going to be fun to watch. Yeah, they taught Hayley the guy that ends up taking over at some point for the rest of the season at some point issue here. And then after that door he's gonna hire whoever he would have hired if they would let him hire somebody on his way through the door and in my suspicion is I, I don't. I don't know that this is true, but that never stops me from saying what I believe. I think it when John Dorsey decided to drop Baker Mayfield, he knew who the coach Baker mayfield's going to be in twenty nineteen. And that coach was onboard with Baker Mayfield, and that's the guy I think we're gonna. See Bob stoops. One last question, Mike, did you get impact kicked off the NBC set because he's over foot and a half taller than you. I. Sources, fans sources. I read something. Yeah, there's a lot unpacking that question that's for sure. They also you confirm that he's a foot and a half see said, no, so he's footing have taller than you short. It's more like a foot and a quarter the shirt. I'm sorry, Mike, I love you. The shortest face in the world. What am I supposed to do? Get new face, get a new face. All right. Also see, still not take plants. We're just doing swim scene. You forever. You still go on planes, right? You scared. Time I've told you like twenty times. Yeah, yeah. I know you don't give a shit. Picks you up in West Virginia and it drives you all the way up to New York every weekend? Yeah, a train over to Stanford. I get on a plane and fly here every weekend. Yeah. Okay. Mic, we appreciate it. Thank you for taking on seventeen last questions from us. Do you have any questions for us. Yeah. When are you going back on. Jewish grandmother, rest in peace. When I go visit her and she'd be like, hey, what are you? Gonna visit me next. Yeah. Hey, I'm talking to you guys. I mean, why don't we? You know what? I, you know, what am I supposed to say? I'd tell you know, Tober third mean you will go down to DC when they lower the banner for the Washington Capitals. We'll just hang out. Nice little. You're not used to this. No. Mine is like how much of a new PF understanding is they raise the unfurled. So be father-son weekend. We'll go down there together. Hang out. Yeah, good deal. All right, Mike, thank you so much. Be wide. That interview. Mike Florio was brought together by WordPress. When we need a website, we have vision, we choose WordPress dot com because there are no limits. When you choose WordPress, you're free to create the ultimate online hub. It's truly yours with room to grow as you aim higher. Turn your vision into reality and launch a website on WordPress dot com. That's what we use here. Partial sports on WordPress dot com. 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Okay, let's get some segments. Thanks to Mike Florio. Always good time to talk to Mike once a month. He's it is fun. Having like Mike is one of those guys. We have a few of them at pardon my take where they've become. They went from guests to like very good friends that I actually care about. I hate catch, feels mice. One of those listen, this business. We have to remain as impartial as we can. But the fact is we root for my Florida. We root for Blake, Bortles delight. Basically anyone who wants to sleep over their house on great week. Yeah. And might Mike also member that time member a few when I've no concept of time anymore, because football season just like sucks. All my brain power outta of anything that's not football. I can't think about. But remember when my foot I couldn't feed my fulfill. Went for like a month. Yeah, Mike was the only one might not. Even my parents texted me. Mike text me was like, hey, you have to see a doctor said, okay, mic I will obviously didn't win away. He went away. It went away. My circulation figured itself out, but that just points to how much Mike cares about us as well. So thanks Mike. Yes. All right. So we have first up king, stay kings for skip Bayless one weekend for skin. Great weekend. Great fame. We had unreal tweets on Sunday and on Saturday night. What was the caption? Do you have the caption? Let me pull it up. Hang on. Okay. So he tweeted a picture, you Instagram to picture of him shirtless kind of flexing out, kind of flexing. You can't me weird in me like he has the body. I mean, he's in good shape for his age, but he has the body of a guy who you know, bikes all the time. Lance Armstrong body here, here's the exact caption that he put on it. Ernestine, that's his girlfriend wife, wife. Ernest Ernestine, took this after a long run in the heat. Shannon Sharpe often says on air too skinny, maybe. So never ever miss a day cardio for at least now our burn some muscle only about five percent body fat, but I do lift a lot Boone's jacked up and he's jazz somebody point out. He looks exactly like the the swale kangaroo. Kangaroo? Yes, job. I skip way to stay in the public conscience. Stephen a Smith. By the way, we put this in put this clip in there. This wasn't. He. Teddy. He wasn't doing that the top again, I have triple, jeez, winning this fight, but it was close to difference between me and teddy teddy the boxing story, the expert, the man that knows much sometimes can be a little bit Joe critical because he's a little bit of most. You know why? Because he's looked at a fight? Yes, I'm calling you built you. He's a little bit too. Stephen, a Smith and teddy atlas. You just listen to it all time clip NAFTA the fight after the triple g canal fight, which I've had a bad weekend and obviously had triple g and I thought he got robbed put. I'm not going to go into that. But Stephen, a Smith and teddy atlas. Just a an all time, buddy cop movie in the win. You know waking, it's all making sense. Now, this was this was a thirst trap that skips an out. Yup. Specifically aimed at an audience of one and that Stephen Smith because he was spending. Then with teddy Stephen, a Smith saw and was like, I got to go over the top and show skip how much fun. I'm having my new side piece, Ernest heady atlas. Oh, yeah. No, he was like, and then yes, skip said, hey, look, I'm hanging out with Ernestine. Well, I think I think the skip Bayless post came before the right atlas teddy atlas and Stephen, a Smith had been hanging out in in a weekend. It's going back to. I think we have to ask like after a weekend like this with the smell of check tweet and this Instagram posts Mason crossbar Mason crossbar if skip Bayless goes into the hall of fame, is he going in as a Fox Sports guy, ESPN guy because this was like a landmark weakened form who would have is he wearing. I don't know. I just wanna see them get back together, so bad bitches. Great. There's been a great weekend for all of our favorites. I don't know if you guys saw the Instagram of Kate Upton pregnant and someone Whitney Cummings. I think comedian said it looks like you have third boop came. Everything came full circle, Rick. Reilly co, my God. I told you guys, it didn't look good. A third boob just stuck on her. So all all of our heroes are having just dynamite weekends. Yeah, it was a great visual skip though every once in a while you get a nice, oh profile of skip Bayless where like tries to peel back the onion and they're like, who is the real skip Bayless and really all that you ever get out of him is he just screams into television camera and then he's not screaming to t. TV. He's in the gym, right? And that's it, right? Those are the only things he takes his wife out for dinner once a week. No, he doesn't because he, he goes the same deli every week and gets five pounds of Turkey Turkey sandwiches for himself all week. I'm talking about Friday night. They go to fry. They go to dinner Friday night from like seven to nine PM. That's that's yes. Tonight. Seven and nine furnace thing. Okay. Next up. We have an oil, you think, what is the exact tweet away Ernestine tweets, or her takes or even stronger than. Genius hind or she might not even exist in skip. Bayless just created her said whenever he has a take that's like to over top, he can be like Ernestine says, so. And so this is just a feeler. This is like Ted three. Yeah, the Ted, Ted one. Yes. Ted, Ted, too. Teddy bear that skip bills, get souls takes from okay that that actually would be dynamite move. I'm with you. But yeah, we do have an you think Kevin Durant went on Instagram too, and he put up post saying that Aaron, Donald abuse and that he would join the Rams. So you think Kevin Brady would join the real, what. This play by Kevin Durant aid. You need to use a BB. Yep. And we know that he's a triple b, big baller brand famous triple be out there. But this is showing a little bit of humor on Kevin Durant side and I kinda like it. I don't think it is. I don't think that it occurred to him like, oh, this is a joke. I think he was like, I really want to join the ramps very sharp and he knows what he's doing. So this is a, you know, a big Dan. Oh, I will still call him a baby back bitch book. We've bitch, but this is a credit will be shut. I'm showing that I can be impartial judge of internet character and by saying Kevin Durant, good job. Okay, good job. This one time, the Rams do need a kicker, and he's three point specialist. It lines up, stay. Come on. My take Kevin Durant do it, and. Back, we'll give you the benefit of the doubt of any like quasi sarcastic tip that you have. I will give you the benefit of the dive. You come on the podcast also like the people think that like Kevin Kevin rank came on the podcast. We wouldn't say be bitch. I would lead it. Yeah, I hate Kevin. What do you think about me calling you back bitch? I'd have to if the interview ended, it would just end, but I'd have to. I couldn't not people said before that you couldn't will say no interview, adjourn journalists code. We don't. We don't. Big, bring up now, I think you would because if you didn't then by the train. Oh, baby back pit. This clear the air. Okay. No, let's be honest here. What do they say would I'd probably say there have been people who have called you may back bitch care to comment in the room in the room, not to name names. Hank there. People who've called you back bitch. Ernestine, cat called you a baby back. Imagine if Kevin rinse slap me. Yes, backhand slap we'll do. We'll just say, grab my neck so fast. What we'll do. We'll just say you can slap us every time you say we say bitch to you just throughout the interview, we'll just spraying. Yeah, we'll have Mr Putin. I come in watch the whole looks nice by the way big. Can you colored? I did. Oh, I'm I, I'm thinking about doing the coach k. Jeff. I should write. The problem is I don't know how long it stays nut washes right out. Yeah, this definitely not sure. Okay. Let's finish up with the Monday reading. We have a Monday reading Manday the daily Mississippi in and this was intended ten name Scipion. Yeah. I mean, it tells you everything. Yeah, becomes out every day by somebody from. Yeah. So this came before ole miss, played Alabama on Saturday. And if you watch the game, omiss went up seven, nothing on the first play from offense. And that was they should just lost his nature fifty nine to seven or something. Whatever it was I didn't hit the over. So this comes from Martin note. No, Ben Miller from the daily Mississippi, and it is titled Nick Sabin, overrated as head coach couldn't even get it out. Here we go. Among the madness there is, but one sentence that few have been brave enough to say, Nick Sabin is an overrated coach. Wow. So right off the bat, Chris, brave is journalists, first responders, police officers, firefighters, teachers, and Ben Miller. I like my articles to Pat yourself on the back before you even get to the crux of it, just like, hey, listen guys before we get to this just, no, I'm a hero. I liked that as an opener. I also like when somebody tells you to stop reading their article right now, if you're easily offended. Yes, that's here's story. Here's the story. Stay with me. I am perfectly willing to admit that Alabama would not have gotten to where they are currently without savings, tremendous recruiting talents that resulted in him having dominant football team early in his career. Now that is big of him to admit that Nick Sabin did a good job recruiting early in his career. Ben Miller is is establishing right off the bat that he has compassion, and he also can look at things in a fair way. Nick Sabin pretty good recruiter. Listen less miles to the great job coaching, Nick savings, recruits in two thousand seven s what I am not willing to say, however, is anything that would make it sound like Sabin his even close to being the greatest college football coach to ever live something tells me he's going to lean towards bear Brian. No, you'll be no, no, no, he's got. He's got some juicy stuff fast forward today, the unprecedented success that Alabama saw. Almost immediately upon savings arrival created a machine that the rest of the nation has yet to figure out how to stop saving, had an incredible streak of recruiting turn. A mediocre team into a team that for many years now has required very minimal coaching. There you go. Yeah. Cohen, which even have to coach him up there. So good John Rosty at the the basketball writer that says Villanova's like a fortune five hundred company runs itself. Yeah, he shows tremendous amount of understanding of how fortune five hundred companies were correct aiming this Nick Sabin just gets them in the door and he's very hands off. Lets them run away the millennials after. Yeah, so he doesn't coach. He's got a free range football following the rival. His first number one, overall recruiting class. Save in one is first of five national championships in Alabama. The machine was running now. He didn't even need to recruit. Everybody wanted to play for national champions. So now he's actually gone back on it on his initial statement. He he not only is he, he said that he was a good recruiter, but now he's stating that winning the national title just made recruiting its own machine, a coaching machine that he doesn't have to take care of in recruiting machine that he also doesn't have all he does. He just lose the gears on the national championship machine, and then the recruiting machine gets going care that giant rube Goldberg. There's just this huge in Nick savings. Got like a bunch of hamsters running around eating pies. I might be dumb big cat, but wouldn't that mean that every single team that went to national championship with then have their own machine going puts a fair point. Fair point. Probably thinking way too hard. It's a fair point savings. Early recruiting created a system in which the best players in the nation showed up on the Alabama campus. One games titles got drafted into the NFL and left a spot for the next round of the nation's top recruits to take over. There's the machine. He displayed the machine, how guy comes in and that is really good, and it goes see NFL. And then another guy comes in in one who's also really, they make him really good, and then he goes the NFL so don't makes. Big Sur. Nick Sabin is not a good coach. He's just somebody who's in charge of machine cracked that recruits and develops top tier athletes and winge national championships. Okay. So here's we're getting to then the crux, the big nickname is basically a software coder is the big reveal them with this in mind. Five national titles really does not seem like enough in an eleven year period every season in recent memory, the tide has had a national championship or bust mentality if saving were is good. It be head coaches as he is at recruiting, Alabama would have won the national title on a yearly basis, but he is and seeing so there it is. So he's actually lost more than is record is five and six. He's a sub five hundred head coach. The greatest run in like in modern college football history, but actually glass half empty. As lost. Six. Yeah, it'd be a better team if they had Gino Auriemma. Yup. Or if it was like the UNC women's soccer program from the from the ninety s and early two thousand or UCLA basketball. I like Nick Sabin and underachiever. I agree. He needs to win every national championship every single year. And then and only then will I say he's a good edco theory about this article. I think Nick Sabin planet. I think that he like this is a PR thing for him to get. 'cause nobody's saying anything bad about Nick Sabin he wants to be motivated, so he's like, I just want to hit piece about, no. So this is it's the opposite rat poison. You know what it is. It's like that was a modern family. The member modern family when the couple was was born couple of dump, 'this or whatever. Yeah, the dumb and I'm not a communist I want. Okay. So basically to save their marriage every now and then they would dress up like different people in the meeting, each other at the bar and be like, oh, you're a stranger. Oh, you're stranger. Yeah, knows it was the Dumfries, whatever. This is what Nick savings doing. He's basically just throwing it out there like. Sprinkling to all the SEC towns at some point in the next ten years. Right? Something about me that says I suck, but don't tell me when it's coming out that I can read it, and I forgot that I even asked you to do it, and I think it's real and I didn't tell you to do it and then I will get motivated to win more national titles. I, I liked that theory. I also think I mean, this has savings fingerprints on it because if you're recruit and you're reading an article, that's like, all Alabama does is get great recruits and then turns them into high paid NFL talent. That's actually a great recruiting tool. Yeah, yeah. Yes. I want to do this actually. Yeah, this this, this is going to get them more. Yes, saving wrote to. Yes. We got pin Miller doesn't exist. Yes. Or he's just like locked in a cage in savings basement. He's Kaiser Sosa. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. MRs if you knew that wasn't a real newspaper. All right. That's our show. We will see everyone Wednesday after the biggest game in franchise history for Chicago bash, love. Yes. Force. Women. Bound. Taking over the. Battle in the NFL tonight. It's pardon. My teeth presented by bar stool sports.

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Damian Lillard LIVE From the Portland Boys and Girls Club

Pull Up with CJ McCollum

45:41 min | 2 years ago

Damian Lillard LIVE From the Portland Boys and Girls Club

"Having a dream is important. We all have dreams aspirations to become something. And by the point where I want kids to realize that if I can do this stuff, you can't. So I think that's what dream center means. We is anything you believe or think of is possible to be a division one athlete. I think the first thing you gotta be a good enough student to play at a division. One school you got to qualify, so they would even accept the scholarship even if they get off until you. So I think just a game for me, having a good GPA and a good ACT score, I was able to get a good education and being able to be disciplined to do your homework study prepare. That's the key and then working on your game as much as possible. Welcome to the quarter century episode. Pull up McCollum here has always George Shultz joining us fresh off a flight looks clean Dame's here as well. Fresh out of a meeting with his financial advisers went over the funds. But if you appreciate you guys coming out for those that are here, we're actually at the boys and Girls Club the rock whip boys and Girls Club Portland metro just launch the c. j. McCollum dream center. Number two kids are in the building staffs in the building. So this is this is a great moment in a really do appreciate you coming on less show role. Last couple of weeks. Notice kids are excited to see. You mean we got a great conversation and I'm sure, and just kind of. Want to welcome you in first and foremost, and then talk about your summer so far. We got to start with the video. You released recently social media, an amazing tool, but at times it can be the devil and people can comment, people can say certain things and a lot of comments about your work throughout the summer, and you responded with an awesome video. Wanna talk a little bit about the video that you put out. I mean, first of all, just like you said, having a social media can be good and it can be bad just depending on how you use it. And I've been on both sides. And I think in this situation is it shows my growth as a person in how I learned how to use it to my advantage, but I have somebody on Twitter, tell me, you know Dame hasn't been in the gym because he hasn't been open run in New York or LA and we haven't seen no workouts because I choose to keep it private. I mean, I just I do what I do. I know what works for me. You know what everybody else does is and what it's not who I am so. Usually what I'll do is try to poke some fun out of, you know, try to find something clever and find some funny and. My way react into that or I guess getting back at him was to to make a funny video. You know where something that I think is foolish or something that I find funny that I see in workouts where I'm like, why are they doing this? Was the point of that. So I had a tennis racket, and I was like, dribbling, the ball plan tennis at the same time, and they had a nerve gun shooting at me while I was doing ball handling. I was blindfolded on one of them. I had a capable and a mask on it was just like. Just things that people latch onto stuff that they think is cool when they think is popular. So they think that's what everybody should do. And I'm more I'm more into doing, you know what I like to do things that that worked for me, and that's the culture of posting workout videos and all that stuff is just not what I do is not who I am, and I've been successful doing things a certain way, and that's what I stick to. So I, I kinda may make fun of, you know, I guess what people come at me on Twitter about what I should do. So I just kind of had a little bit of fun with it. I enjoyed it. I thought it was a great video. It received. It was well received across the nited states and the world essentially sportscenter ESPN everybody picking it up and just shows the humor personality that you haven't and how it comes out. We gotta talk NFL. My Browns are struggling. Your raiders are really struggling. I say, really because they're all into my Cleveland Browns are over one in one with two, very, very close games. Khalil Mack was traded for a couple of picks. Probably I'd like to say he's trade for like eighteen year old and some bubble gum and. He dominates in his first game, your head coach is making over one hundred million David cars making over one hundred million. I never count people's money, but I think that you guys should've kept him and if you're going to keep them, the Browns should've went. Got him. But talk to me about your raiders where they're at and what you'd like to see from there moving forward. First of all, you don't get credit for a tie. So y'all just as good as being own to just like us. But I'm mean Khalil Mack is arguably the best defensive player in the league and as a fan, and you know, as a business person or somebody in charge or managing a team, I think you got your quarterback. Derek Carr, and then you know, you've got somebody who was drafted the same years him on a defensive side that has been a multiple pro bowls has been the one the best defensive player on your team for for four years. Now. And you. You don't want to pay the price for the product that you're getting on the field. And he goes to another team in the first game, he shows you why. And. We come out struggling, you know, I think is is not only a a blow to our team just losing our best defensive player. But I think when his teammates look around is like. That comfort is gone. You know you not a player at that level is not on your team, no more. And now somebody has to step in and fill those shoes. So it's like it changes your team, you know? I know it's just one person, but when somebody has to go, you know, it changes a lot of things. And I think our our team is hurt because of that, you know, I think it's gonna play a huge role in the amount of success we have in his during the season Dame. Can you speak to the the message though it sends now two other players when coaching staff and ownership says, you know what? We're not gonna pay our best player in the really the pillar of our organization. What what message does not now send to the other guys who are left there wondering what to do next? I mean, I think it is says the player into a business mindset because the way we look at it, I come to work every day and I'm like me and c. j. France. We talk every day. I like plan Woodham and I wanna be here on joy plan for this team. And you thinking. Which your heart, you know, this is what I enjoy. This is what I love to do. I love coming here every day and they're thinking, well. You want our best players and we love have you wanna team, but we'll really wanna pay you this money. So. The level that he's on is going to be teams out there that's going to take them and they're gonna pay him in the money and maybe more to bears, paid them a lot more money than most ever ever than the raiders would have paid them anyway or what he would have taken from the raiders. So I think it will force players to think like business, you know, of course I want to be here, but I gotta do as best for me. And I think is kind of at this point at least are looked at and they say, well, he's not loyal. These guys should have did that he should have did this, and we don't think about the business side of it and how. Athletes are affected by business decisions. So I think what will happen is you'll see a lot more athletes starting to approach it like business, you know, they'll have the the relationships with their teammates, and the passionate will be the same as far as competition. But when it comes to contract situations and money and stuff like that, they'll approach it like business, you know, it's not going to be like, yeah, well, I've been here eight years or none of that. Not everything is out the door because I know what you're gonna do when his business. So yes, he, that's a great point by Dame. We've talked about that a lot of the business side of it and that I wonder for you end. Amen. Was there ever a point where you realized that your this is a business? Like at what point did that hate you when you realize it was way bigger than just? I'm here in Portland like anything can happen. Any player can be traded. I think for me, it's one to trade. Their line calms and they push practice back. They changed the time of practice, which means somebody's probably getting traded. They don't want you getting hurt and practice and you normally practice at eleven. They push the noon because noone was the deadline on the east coast. It's three eastern or whatever the case may be. And then someone actually gets traded and the way happens. The way it goes is they take the name tag out the trash bag there, and he's putting stuff in a trash bag and his boxes and a new name tags coming in. It's like it's like, wow, the homey. Homey is gone. When I was seeing again because he got traded to east coast team. So that's the tough part of it because you develop relationships with everybody, you friends, and then you understand that everybody got to do what's best for them. The organization has to do with his Asian, and and that's when the business I comes up Buffalo Bills. Davis, and this is this is DVD. So it was one of our guys reportedly retired at halftime of a game. We have. We have to discuss this. What? What are your thoughts on a player? I think another player has done this before by the way. Another Buffalo Bills quarterback, I think, has left the game at halftime. It was reported on Twitter. I don't know if it's true or not, and retired. He said he was gonna retire and they need to play again. But he did quit mid game, went home. How do you explain something like this to where there's a lot of arguments that say he should have just said on the sideline, finished a game, they retire, and then there's a lot of Instagram, you know, remakes of him actually leaving the game where it's pretty funny. Buddy buddy did one on Instagram where he basically, he said he said, I'm not risking CTE for this anymore to call and left. How do you explain something that happens like this? I've never seen a guy quick mic game. I mean, I don't think you can explain it, but from what I read off of his comments, what he said about it when they asked him about it and he said, you know, I was I was out there in the first half, and you know, I kept telling people, I don't feel like myself, and I noticed that I lost a step and I felt like, you know, I don't have it no more. I don't wanna stretch my career out because I'm trying to head his warrior mentality. In that not be was best for me instead of realizing, look, I'm done. I don't have the same step. I'm not saying player. I was before. And. I'm done. And some people might say, well, you quit on your team at halftime. You should at least finish the game, finished your career to right way, but. Nobody can tell him how he feels about it because we've been, I'm twenty eight years old. And since I was six years old, I've been working out plan for this team going to camps. So twenty two years of my life has been committed to this game. So when I turn thirty five and I'm out there and I'm like, man, this twenty two year old is killing me and I, I lost a step. I don't have it no more like that's emotional. You. Nobody can tell you what kind of emotions go through your body and how it makes you feel and where you go mentally when you got to address that when you got to really look at yourself in Americans, they like, I'm not what I once was, I think so many motions go through your body that it might cause you to walk off the field and at halftime you just like I'm done like, I can't. It can take you over. So I mean, you can't judge him for the walking away at halftime. That's how he felt, and nobody can put themselves in his shoes and no, what his life or is experiences. So I think you gotta respect it. I think that's a great point. I didn't read the statement, but to be able to understand. I think it's it's along the lines of what's best for your team, not playing. Sometimes it's best for team, especially if you balance injury, or if they're just a mismatch where you feel like you're not helping a team. So in a sense, if he felt like he was a step slow, he felt like he wasn't able to perform at level. He's capable of he was helping the team because playing could mean he was a liability. The thing about that though that you know he was in a second. It was for him. It was. It was done. Maybe he had been thinking prior, but that's a five million dollar check that he basically turned down the rest of the year, vonda Davis. So for him to feel that way and to feel that he needed to leave he. I mean, he must have really felt like it was over right as I think that's just how you know is really motions. It took him over because it's not like he was walking off the field saying, I'm leave five million dollars out here. That's really how you feel. And that's what it took them over. So like. When your emotions are real like that, and you do something like that and people say, oh, he left five million dollars out there. That's how you know Israel and you. You can't put a dollar sign on everybody like he was done. And that's that's what he decided true. Change the topic a little bit. Papa Dane. Got to JR day daddy day. Congratulations on on the young one. So how does it feel to be a father one to what's the most rewarding part of being a father, you know, being able to come home with young young junior now. Now, I mean, if feels great being a father because you. I think about my relationship with my dad and growing up in. I can see how much pride he takes in the kind of product that I am. And you know, I feel the same thing when people come to my house. I'm like he rolling over watching rollover and I'm trying to make them do stuff in front of people because I'm just so proud. So as like it's a great feeling. Just watching somebody that you know that you created somebody that you made and you're gonna have to raise in the love that you have form as like. I never thought I could ever love somebody more than my mom, but it's like this little baby is like everything is, you know, as it becomes more important than everything and. I think this stuff that that I, I really appreciate as like. This past week, I, I went home. I had to do a neighborhood picnic that I do every year. I was at home for three days and he came with me and that like on Sunday last weekend he came, he went to, he came back to Portland and then went to Houston with his mom, and I went to China for a few days and then I went to LA worked out for a few days, and then I went to the fight on Saturday in Vegas, and I came back yesterday and he they came back yesterday, so I hadn't seen him for four week in and he was like doing ten different things that he just wasn't doing seven days ago. So just like watching the growth and seeing the personality come out and. When they recognize you as they parent, you know, they cry with somebody else. And then as soon as they did the hand on your hand, they just they stopped. So just the stuff like that. I think so far for me, that's the best. The best thing about being a parent. Yeah, I wonder because I'm a parent to CJ is not not there yet, but he will be missing out. Yeah, missing out. You are missing out, but he's still young buck. I've been no rush. But what I was gonna say is like we identify kids and then me as a fan, we identify athletes so much from what we see and that's it right. And we don't. We don't necessarily always see your think about the person behind the athlete, and I think it's wonderful. The share that I wonder for you Damien, what's? How do you in? How will you moving forward balance being a father being at home, and then also wanted to put in the work that you've wanted to do every day. I mean. I'll find a way because I find a way to kiss stuff done. But even if I before I had my son, I, I got a lot of strong relationships people in my life that I got really strong relationships with. And I've never had trouble finding time to continue to work on those relationships and keep them strong. And I think having a kid is is obviously a much bigger deal than having a best friend and you know having those relationships like you responsible for the human being and raising them and making them the right, be a good person in the values that you instill in them and stuff like that. But I'm not somebody does always on the move. You know what? I do, what I need to do. I get things done. And then I'm, I'm in a house. So I'll be around. I think my presence will be everything. Obviously I with the travel, but when I'm when I'm home, I think is important for me to make sure I stay on top of that actually give a lot of my time. You and I talked to, and I think it's important with kids and I'm guilty of it is well, which is sometimes these for me, I'm on the phone too much. And when you're home, you want to be home and how do you Damian to how do you balance that? You know, because you wanna be active on social media. You want to give their fans, but you also need your time especially at home to be present. That's one of the things I struggle with daily addicted to my phone to Instagram, Twitter, I've seen it in Hampshire. I'm addicted. So just being able to be present is something that I strive for and work on it. I'm not there I'm far from a finished product, but just realizing that there's more important things out there than gerbil in a ball shooting the ball talking about a basketball, arguing with people on Twitter for no reason or just searching for no reason. A lot of times we just searching searching for article that's funny searching for me, Instagram or just kind of at a habit, you know, over the course of our lives or you you looking for your phone, but it's in your hand. That's when you know you gotta series problem or you own your phone and you like, dang, where is it? So that's that's kind of what I've gone through, which is being home being when you went to grow China to be on your phone all the time. We're just trying to be president because we spent so much time on the road. We spend so much time watching film, making them watch basketball. You know, it's just like a at some point. You gotta just be like, okay, I'm gonna give you five hours of what's up. What are we doing? We're gonna watch Netflix. We're gonna go to the debt. We're gonna go to dinner whatever to where you've got to remove yourself from day to day life because you can get drained from just being only involved in one thing. You got to kind of diversify your lifestyle. Saying. I can't function without my phone is like. I'll take my phone everywhere when I'm about to get in the shower. I walk up to the shower and when I opened up the shower door, I'm like stepping in the shower and then I sit my phone down, like as the water is hating phone down. So it was like, and that is not a joke, like it's really that bad. I'm just like always on the phone in appendix almost like it's just like, I'm just always going from this that Snapchat, Instagram, Twitter, check my tex- texoma, Texas few people back then as like, I'm just going back and forth back and forth. And I look up and then it'd be like three hours went by and I'm just like, man, this is bad. People tell me all the time. I'll say right in front of you will be having a conversation. I check my phone and they'll keep talking and not just. Won't respond. He does that. We don't. You don't do that too. I do too. He'll be like good tall audit time. Tell you good talk, but I'll have a conversation have anybody, which is. We went to dinner and vaguely, I just got engaged. Who. We went to dinner Vega's with like five or six people me have JR and we're at dinner. We're eating dinner, right? There were six people at the table. I've number seven were eating. I eat my food. I get up from the table. I take five steps back and I record them all texting and not noticing me stand up and walk back. I recorded for like ten seconds, took pitchers. Sat back down there. Still folds eating. I send him to picture like this day of shame. He has to be on his phone to do this, right? Yes. You're actually you were more guilty? Yeah, more guilty. I am more guilty, but we have to talk about this upcoming season, seasons seasons approaching. We got swept in the playoffs. Everybody talks about it. What are you most looking forward to for the Oklahoma season? You said that you have some things you worked on individuals that you were going to show this week before training camp. What? What can we look forward to most seen from you to seize them? I think the main thing is just improvement. I think over time you know, once you get year five, six, seven. The experiences kicking in, you know, you've played enough minutes. You've played against enough teams in high level players. You watch the film that the game has slowed down. There's a lot more simple. You just know how to play the game better. You know how to navigate the situations that you end up in on the court much better. So you think you'll just see a an improved player? I, like I said earlier to you, I worked on a lot of things. I added some stuff that can make me a few percent better. Just adding something here at some near, make me more efficient, be able to be more consistent. And I think this is going to be a challenge. Like you said, we got swept. All right, allows two years in a playoffs in, you know, it's easy for somebody to say, oh, you got swept and point the finger and talk down in Audette, but. One one team gets the win every year. Everybody else you know, you second to last whatever you wasn't a championship James. So I think the important thing is just to to cheat working. No, you gotta keep working towards being at last team and and keep believing. So I think that's what we are as team which has got to stay with it. You know, you never. You never know when you're going to turn the corner. You never know when that time is gonna come. So if you aren't prepared for it or if your mind is in right. When it comes to you, then as you know, to pass you by so. I think I this season, we just gotta keep putting our time Yankee working, stay together and just keep believing. I agree. I think you hit it right on the head. We just got to figure out ways to to get a little bit better. So we a little bit more efficient with movement, not wasting movement, defensively understanding each year, got a better grip of teams plays how people guard you, how you should are certain people and how how to get through eighty two game season. I think that's the biggest thing I've learned going into year sixes when to sleep when to take a nap when to watch Netflix when the Washington extra show versus when not wash that extra show and how to consistently figure out ways to stay healthy because in this league, if you can stay healthy, then you got an edge on the rest of the competition because everybody's battling some type of injury or fatigue, whether it's twisted ankle sprain knee tendinitis and elbow. So I think that's been the the fun part of going through each season. It's figured out how to get to eighty two games plus some in feel as healthy as possible. One more question before we go to the kids and allowed him to ask us some questions, you twenty eight going into year. This is your this. My six, seven season. So you talked about fatherhood. You talked about traveling, balancing your time. The question I have for you is how has your outlook on life change from when you left Lieber to now based on your experiences, how you train, how you sleep, how your cover, and and just kind of how you value, what's important versus what's not important? I always asked to guess, changes in their lifestyle changes in how they think. Because how I think now at twenty six is completely different than how I thought twenty two or even when I was a rookie in the league. So I was always interested in kind of see what a person is. I don't think I don't think I've changed a whole lot as far as training, right? I think you know, high school college, especially college. I was always in a gym working out then practice shots out the practice Coulter. I did all the things that I could take care of my body and to improve as a player in college in now. In the NBA I do the same things, but I've, I think I've just gotten better at it. You know, I think I've taken it up a level each year things that I could do better to to help my body and help my game. So I think that's, that's stay the same. You know, my outlook on on that hasn't changed, I think is you put in a work and you get results, and that goes for taking care of your body in your work on the court. I think where I have changed and I've never been a selfish person. I grew up with a lot of cousins and we always had to have each other back, share our snacks. They are food. Whatever it was. I, I learned early to share my stuff and look out for people and you know, have other peoples back, you know, and beyond selfish. But back to my point, I think I changed the most and. I'm the kind of impact that I wanna have at first. It was, I wanna get drafted. I wanna be rookie year. I wanna have a max contract. I wanna buy mama house. I want to do this. I want to do that. And I was like, my mentality was kind of selfish because I was just concerned with all the stuff that I wanted to do, and I want to get myself this car. I wanna do that. You know, I had a long list of stuff that I wanted to do, and it was all. Point net myself. And you know, as I've gotten older, I've started to. I guess get more satisfaction out of the impact that I can have on other people in other things. So that's kinda wild started to focus my attention. I know that I'm gonna show up early in the morning. Workout, a normal lift. After that. I know I'm going do some conditioning. I know I'm gonna do that stuff, but just the impact that I can have on kids and even people my age, it's a lot of people who had tough upbringings and people who struggled their entire life. They might be twenty four before they willing to listen and learn stuff. So I might be the same age as them, but I might be able to teach them something and I might be able to have an impact on them. So I think. I've, I've really changed in that way to, whereas like I'm gonna do the stuff that was going to give me my best chance to be successful in a court. I'm going take care of myself and do all the things that I need to do in that way. But my attention is completely changed. My focuses completely changed. How can I impact as many things as possible. How can I make my can't hiking out impact six hundred kids at my basketball camp? How can I go home and how this picnic and provide all these things that could change these kids lives? How can I go to the Ronald McDonald house and change these families lives? How can I. Take my level up and being a global ambassador of a Special Olympics. How can I, you know, all these things that that I care about, how can I impact it even more. So it's not really about myself. My mentality is just changed in. How I can be of service to other people, how how could I impact other people? And I think it's been that way because. I've been so successful, but I look when I go home, you know, it's like my friends haven't been that successful. Not my closest friends have, but like people that I went to high school with haven't been successful. I got family members who haven't been as successful. So as like I could be doing so great. But what have I done to give them a chance to be successful? How impacted them? What was the impetus Dame to starting going from? I two, we and helping others. How what was the beginning of that process for you? I think that was probably around. My third year in the league, my third unit league, I got a signature shoe with Adidas. Assign my extension with the team and like everything was going great for me. I just made my second all star game. Everything was going great for me and I was happy and I wanted to do this and I wanted to. I have so many things that I wanted to do and enjoy my own success. But then it would be like other people that I was always, you know, people from home, following Instagram, I'm looking at the way they look and how they face. Look, they look stressed and I'm looking at they close. I'm not that that is like material, but I'm just looking at how they look and. The the captions on pictures, you know, I can tell us a struggle. So when I was like, man, I'm. I'm just so I'm being I'm consumed with what's happening with me and how good I'm doing. I'm onto the next thing and not in so many other people that. I don't wanna say taking away from that, but is taken away from it because I can't enjoy how great I'm doing because people that I love and care about, they aren't. Doing well for themselves. So at that point, I was like, man, you know what? I'm gonna continue to do stuff that's going Lau all of these things continue to happen for me, but I'm not going keep pressing for more and more in and carrying about it as much as I have. I still care, but I'm gonna tell him, I'll focus to impact another people doing stuff other people because it's more fun when when everybody came can thrive and be successful. Can you speak to that too? Because we've today means point. We've had some great athletes on the podcasts who have said similar things. Maybe it took them longer, but they like they're making all this money. They're doing great. Everything that's supposed to happen is happening, but there is some kind of emptiness or a feeling of they can do more. They should do more so for you. How does that play out? I think it happens to all athletes not just athletes, but people in general, who you make goals. We all make goals. I had a Maserati on my door in college dorm, our walk out and touch it every day, and then we'll have that Maserati. And that was my motivation because I was driven by material things, material things drove me to be successful. I want to buy mama house. I don't want my mom and dad to work no more. I want to make sure that the next generation is good. So that was my motivation. It was like what I didn't feel like shooting. I was like, you want that Maserati or not, and that would be all right, let's go to the gym. That's kind of how I approached everything. Then there comes a time where has Dame said you make your checklist and you start checking stuff off, and then you have to find a different motivation because it's not money, you already have it. It's not cars. You already have them. Your mom already has a house. Your dad has a house. Everybody doesn't have to work if they don't want to. So then you find your motivation, and that's when you find your purpose. And I think it takes time to mature enough to realize that and then you also go through by things that you don't need and realize that you hear the story might doesn't make you. Happy is true. Money doesn't provide you happiness, but it allows you to make those around you happy and allows you to do things that make you happy. And I think that we all have that emptiness at times because you have a lot of money. You have a lot of power, but you don't know how to use it. And then once you figure out how to use it, how to empower others, how to provide for maybe his kids in the neighborhood, maybe it's working with the boys and Girls Club. Maybe it's working with Special Olympics that brings me more joy than diversity. Fifteenth because that's consistently come. You don't know how you getting back to kid's life and how that will change the trajectory of their life. I remembered impact, Eric snow hat on my life. When we, he probably I camp, I loved Alan Iverson. So when I got to see him, I realized that, okay, he's a normal six foot, he's skinny if he can make it to the league, I can make you know what I mean, it kind of it makes you think that your goals are achievable. Once you see someone who looks like you comes from places like you make it, and then they come back, help you make you. So I think that's when I got to that point win. As Katie said, as other players have said, Michael, Benny talked about it, you have money, but it's like if there's nobody to share it with like, what's the point? Like you need a significant other and the you need things that you care about, because otherwise you just you just have that emptiness inside. So I think it takes time, but that's kind of where I'm at and where I've got to. So that's your evolution of terms of adapting as a person and growing that is helping others and feeling like you, you're using your platform to make a significant difference. Exactly. And that's why. Are we looking at CJ McCollum dream center because hopefully a kid that's interested in journalism that wants to learn more about or maybe they're not interested at all, and then they try something they do somebody learn something that becomes something that they like that gives them a chance to have an advantage on some of the next kids, but you guys are looking sleepy. So we're going to get to some questions from you guys. This is your chance to ask us anything. You wanna talk about anything you want to ask about our lives sports, not sports TV shows on Netflix cartoons, whatever case may be. I have a question. How do you like your cave. I mean, I don't really. I don't really trip on it to be honest with you, I think is. Is cool is a lot of people who who have lower ratings. Thing is only like seven players with a higher ranking. So I feel like it should be higher. But I mean it's just a video game, and then you like the raiders. We team USA radio and even got it to he said, ravens ravens, the ravens ladies. We're definitely being the Browns this list. We'll get some push-ups on that. We could best ups on that. Gets bad to say, man, you ain't got eyeball me man. Y'all better than this. Question is for Mr.. McCollum column. Sorry. What does the name James sitter mean to you? So good question. I think to me dream center just means being able to have a dream being able to aspire for a dream being able to achieve a dream and. Took a lot of thought and trying to figure out what I want to name him. When I started a year ago, building the I dream center at the boys and Girls Club him. Okay. And we play with words, you play with graphics and to me, I think having a dream is important. We all have dreams aspirations to become something, and I think you know having this platform, I chief my dream, right? I was able to become an NBA player, make it to the NBA I was able to get a degree from prestigious universities. So how much even dreams and now about the point where I want kids to realize that if I can do this stuff you can. So I think that's what dreams center to me. Is there anything you believe or think of is possible you can speak? I think you can speak good karma into existence. You can speak success into existence if you back with work. So I'm trying to put you on a position where you have the resources, the tools to be whatever you want to be. This is for both of you who winds up your guys is hair. A lot of your to take take it. I got cut this. I did. I went to Vincent LA so it just depends on where I'm at. I go to Vince LA I go to reggae and New York, and then I go to say when I'm in Portland, so I travel a lot. Have you know, Forber that's just going to say, next, you know, Barbara, she plug in. I see you. That's respect this. So my actual question why really came up here was why did you pick the boys and Girls Club to build dreams centers in. Good question. I think just the relationship I had as a kid, you go into rec centers, we call it the boys club when I was a kid and Kano high when just an impact it had on my life, being able to be dropped off. There was girls there too. Poisoning. The kid, I was a kid, so I think the impact it had on my life just being able to. Have a safe space like from eight mile driving over eight AM and she wasn't company gave me until later in the day, and I had a lot of time on my hands to play ping pong does shoot baskets play pool in Iraq, play games. We went swimming, we were able to do so many different things to where if I was at home. I don't know what I would have been doing. You know what I'm saying? So just being able to be exposed at environment where you have good instruction, good teachers around your good, could people who care, and they really opened my eyes when I went back my freshman year in college, and I worked at the urban league emol town. I was with two kids, so I had to be a kid. They've got to work with them, take them swimming, we went to Broadway plays. We did stuff like that, and I see how much they enjoyed. It reminded me of my youth, and that's what I thought if I do anybody and we'll do with someone I trust and I try some boys and Girls Club. Of course, if both of you guys have like a hospital and we're is, is you got his house by house. Hot spotlight. Internet husband. Four basketball. Club, how old are you. He said, he's the club. He's not willing hoop. You try and go to the bar like twelve. Thirteen. We play pickup sometimes, but usually they like they'll organize the run based off a when we in town. So I think it's just different places. I, I don't know of any like specific places where they just hope that I'm sure like a twenty four hour fitness. They probably play every day though. Are you looking for? Some runs twenty four hour fitness. Oh, you're talking about hotspot, oh, we overdone this thought a little too hard hotspot. That was a great question. Actually, we, we played ourselves where you like, left wing, left wing. That's my spot left. We see. I got a see that for me. I like the elbows is closer is closer and I feel like I can get it off. Step Baxter has he's whatever. So either elbow like that, mid range, like I don't know twelve to eighteen fee. Not the elbows, the elbow. Did you do elbow. I have a question for both. Y'all know. And if you're a Hooper by what do you, what do you? What do you like able to get like in a d one college education is the key to all of this. So I think for me, having a good GPA and a good ACT score, I was able to get into a school like Lee where maybe the caliber of player wasn't as high in terms of the talent. It wasn't as you know, the, the quality of talent wasn't as good as Duke or North Carolina, but I was able to get a good education and I was a good enough player to where my grades were just good enough to get in. So I think education is to keep able to be disciplined to do your homework study, prepare. Always do your homework before you go hoop before you go do those things. I think that's the key and then working on your game as much as possible. That'd be my vice why y'all give me this desk staring here today. Man. The second one, I think to be a division one athlete. I think the first thing you got to be a good enough student because if you if you don't to play at a division one school, you've got to qualify to be able to even accept the scholarship even if they get offered. So you so be a good enough student and. I think just work at, we're get your game. Obviously, you got to play for a team that's going put you in position and play in front of coaches and in schools. But I think being a good student and just working, you know, if you wanna team, if you really a athlete or you really a basketball player is going show, you know, they'll come find you. It took me until. I was in twelfth grade when I decided to go that we were state and it was people committed in the ninth grade tenth grade, eleven grades. So it took me a little longer, but I stayed with it. You know, I never had. Much doubt in, you know, if I was going to get a scholarship or not by the entire time that I was waiting for it to happen for me, I didn't stop being kind of student that I needed to be because it just wasn't guaranteed in a lot of those qualities is why I was able to get a scholarship. You know, people pay attention to your demeanor how you talk to your teammates, how you talk to your friends. You know it's a lot more than just get good grades and be a good athlete. You know, it's, it's a lot of people who do well in school because they smart people, but they don't know how to talk to a teacher. They own ought to behave. Now, know how to Illinois how to act and you know, they might be a good basketball player, but they don't know how to be coached. They don't know how to follow instructions. Now I wanna listen. So your character matters too. So I will say the kind of students you are how much you actually work at being a good players and. Then your character. Those things count when you have all three of those may gives you a great chance. But then it also gives you even better chance to move past the people who might be a better athlete than you, but then they might be less of a student and they might have much less character than you do, or they might be just as good of a student and just as good of an athlete, but they not as coach until the character isn't as good. And I think I could say that for me and him, we both went to small colleges too. So. We got to college and then we had to keep working. We still had to be good students because it wasn't guaranteed that we was gonna make it to the NBA and then we had to be good people because NBA has gone. Call your professors. What kind of student is he? How was he in class? Was he late? Did he show up on time? How often did he miss class? They're gonna actually, coaches houses relationship with his teammates. Was he ever laid the practice? How hard did he work? So all of those things, you know, when you have all those things that gives you a much better chance not only to make it team or get a scholarship, but going forward like in your life, like as a professional, even if you're not playing sports autos, things matter. Is that one thing, both fence hasa cancers, if you're not playing sports, or if you are either way your legacy or your success, your path, it's not going to be built in one place. So what I mean by that is go to the library, go to the gym, don't be afraid to ask for help. Don't be afraid to talk to a teacher. Don't be embarrassed to ask because you don't know the answer. You know, I think that's something that I know siege and I have discussed, and I think hopefully you guys can can learn from that as well. Even if you're not playing sport. Don't be afraid to go to tutoring tutoring, saved my life never gotten without tutors. So. Make sure you do that seriously and don't be afraid exper- hope. I think this great advice but appreciate you coming on bro around a forty five minute, Mark gray conversation. I'll see you tomorrow. Eight nine AM shar ready to get some more wins during pick up on a day. The boys and Girls Club. I want to thank all you guys coming out listening. I appreciate you guys. We are not going to do our wine recommendation of the day today because of the circumstances and setting we're in, but what it going to thank you guys. I hope you guys are able to utilize the room and continue to learn grow in figure out different ways to become successful at this light. There's a lot of different ways you can make it. It doesn't have to be sports. It doesn't have to be open to Mike. It could be the person behind the camera as they told you. 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9/17/18 - Full Show (Cowboys/Dak + Pats loss + Matthews' foul + Davis retires)

Skip and Shannon: Undisputed

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9/17/18 - Full Show (Cowboys/Dak + Pats loss + Matthews' foul + Davis retires)

"Welcome to the undisputed podcast. I'm your host, Johnny Taft. This podcast is the full show from today's episode of undisputed from start to finish. They've got a busy slate, so skip, Shannon. Let's get to it. Good morning, welcomed undisputed, live from Los Angeles. I'm Jenny Taft here. Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharpe. Just do it right now. Just get overall. Oh, the Judy, we will take our time. We let it rush what we do, how you doing today. I'm really well. Look, really nice day. You're all black. Nice weekends apparently were not chatting. Thank you more doors. Now, how does cattle. How 'bout that deck Preska. I'm back that dying. Do. My goodness. Okay. Your day ten cases now show's over. Thank you. I enjoy doing. You should gloat all week last week because you get it out of your system because it was going to end on Sunday night. Okay, thank you. You enjoy this Monday four now four now going to be okay, the show I'm good. Okay. I'm Reema lot to talk about because the patriots lose the chiefs wall. Between the Packers and Vikings, but we are going to start in Dallas since we need to hear where he's going with this leading up to the game deck. Prescott said, quote, challenge accepted after he was called out safety, Landon Collins that delivered last night on the Cowboys. Third play of the game. He hit David Austin for a sixty four yard touchdown in the Dallas defense was all over Eli manning sacking him six times Zeki Elliott ran for seventy eight yards and captured off with a six yard touchdown run. Let's take a listen to deck after the game on accepting the challenge. Kind of said the challenge accepted. I accepted it, but I can tell you. Was the only one who accepted that this team accepted that offense accepted it and we wanted to go out there and show these guys, how much do you consider that to be disrespectful as a competitor? Yeah. Mean missed the game of football. You gotta put in somebody's hands. I mean when you have a great run game like we do in a and a great running back as you saw what they did tonight and what we've done for two years running running the ball to me, it's kind of, okay, Shannon, how did those Cowboys alike. You know what's ski, I put it to you like this. The Cowboys played wheel. But the giants, terrible. And I think you can. I think you're going to test that also the giants offense line, the horrible skit. There were the play last night. The left guard has a man land air up. He steps down to help the center who also had the guy hit up. He helps guy and the guy he's supposed to be blocking gift, a straight shot, his ally in the Mt. You look at the right guard, the right tackle that lose the game give. I don't know. Go ahead. Go ahead. You keep telling me to go here, but you keep it a Russia mask? No, no, no, no, look shocked by where you started. Okay, Mitch. Okay. Genesis gentleman come to you first. How good the Cowboys look last night, Shannon, none of us give. I didn't say skip hypothetically or do a question that you can have my tank left art baking. Now I'm onto the right guard. Right? Tackle the Cowboys last night rain. What we call the or not eastern incomes down the tackle loops around. Yeah. Okay. The tackle goals around the incomes. Okay. They did that all night and all you have to do with the gar as the right guard, right. Tackle still even playing field. Right. Tackle them. Ask you a question. How many times does the left defenseman trying cross your face? Oh, not very often. So if he's he's does that lay for the tackle to loop around hit you in your mouth? They kept getting on uneven playing field and so now is like Nath cars, right to. Eli and. Allowed washed. He's taken too many hip over the last couple of years give if you saw him taking those hits, you see his face when he gets up skip. That's a guy. If if you're in the box and profession, you say he's Punchdrunk taking one too many years? Yeah, I'll say Kwame Barclays. Having to be Barry Sanders. He's having the Joop one, two people just to get out of the backfield. I believe they gonna be the real deal. He can do it. He can catch the ball. He get yard up to contact. He runs the ball with with power and authority, but this offensive line isn't very good. It's the one position where they're five guys, but they really need to play one. And we have yet to see them do that. And for all the talent they have pensively odeal got his money owed Odell complaint, Evan Ingram who think that young and up and coming tied in sterling Shepard. Saquon Barkley. But all that being said and two games, they got to test downs last night, whether it was a giveaway touchdown. They didn't even come close to getting. Down early. So with that being said, I don't wanna take anything from the Cowboys. The Cowboys won the ball game is the division rival. These games are always close but to say on on cabinet here. Now this was the Taylor Taylor maple with the Cowboys big about it that Prescott to pass and plays at seventy four yards. Oh the next twenty. On the next twenty two twenty three us me twenty three passing attempts. He had eighty six yard eighty yards. So on twenty six tenths he had a hundred and sixty pass a yard was Bayless. Is that good? I didn't think so. So before you heap all his praises. Oh. I'm said, a word. You spoke too much the deal came here about the cowboy. How about them? Sorry, jazz made me upset. 'cause I won't be able to the more. You bet on my fault. That's my phone. I take full responsibility owner of that won't happen again. I said one week ago today, the Cowboys will beat the giants. You're like, yes, stop. Go ahead. I think the bomb table and Austin, what it did is because the Cowboys they don't throw a whole lot of passes down the field in what it did by doing that it let them know. Okay. You keep thinking. We're only gonna throw shallow crosses in short routes. We will throw this ball over your head and it kinda got the giants on the hill. In open things up. Gallup Maytham plays Thompson Mazen, play Koby's Lee made some place, but still with accepted that bomb. Everything was close or near the near the land of screaming. So I don't wanna take anything away from the Cowboys, but the giants terrible. And it's going to be a long long season for the giants until they get this offense of land. Fix my turn is your turn, wow time that was nine minutes and was. If you'll better to stop. All right. Here we go. Okay, challenge accepted giants defeated, Landon Collins called out my quarterback and my quarterback last night answered the challenge bottom line with the NFL world watching and waiting for Dak Prescott to fall in his face last night. The way people thought he fell on his face at Carolina in week one. What did my quarterback? Do? He set the early tone and he made all the key plays all the way home in a huge win a division win for my Cowboys. That was much more convincing than the final score. Am I right about that? So yes, I'm going to give you this. My defense was dominating against a wash up quarterback last night, but my defense was still dominating because del Beckham junior, the highest paid. Wow. Receiver in pro football who wanted to be paid the most of any player at any position. Pro-football caught four balls on nine targets for a grand total of fifty one yards and zero touchdowns I told you a YMCA is becoming a star cornerback and I thought he played extraordinarily blanket well on Odell. He was all over him all game long. And I told you saquon is overrated for what he does because he's not a crash it between the tackles, Ezekiel Elliott kind of back. So he ran it eleven times for a grand total of twenty eight yards. That's two point, five, Kerry and ally was relegated to dumping it two in fourteen times. But that was for a grand total of eighty. The quietest yards I can ever remember. There's a lot of whipped cream on every catch that he makes because there's a lot of spin, spin, spin, spin, spin, spin, going, nowhere fat you, right? No, for this making public. Yeah, I agree. I don't know how he didn't fumble last night. He got into the end zone zero times last night. He got into the end zone one time against the Jacksonville Jaguars from what was it sixty eight yards, correct. But the rest of his carries had seventeen carries for thirty eight other yards against Jacksonville. So the bottom line was I told you that this team goes as my quarterback goes. This team feeds off Dak Prescott and I'm going to say it one more time. I loved this man's football backbone. I love his big game, big stage play making because he will rise to the occasion. And what did he do right off the bat last night. He was angry last night, but he can play channeled focused angry, and that was an angry past that he early to take on Austin, that as you said, backed off the giants and planted a seed of doubt in the back of their minds for the rest of their game. And I, I don't know. Silly me. I didn't know Dak Prescott could throw deep. That look like a really good right on the money throat them did you that ain't gonna save. Did you see sweet package? You see, I don't care. He just beat him. He just hard enough just enough on the line. He didn't drop a Nick foles down the chimney. He had some mustard some heat on that throw right in the hab. And by the way somebody across from me, said that on Austin is not a wide receiver, but I don't know he lined up wide on that play, hey, guess who ran past jackrabbit so Jack ravage Jenkins can lock up Dez. Bryant has Dez Bryant can't get away from anybody. Right. So what did you keep saying he'd put the cops on Dez, right? They limit can guess what I take on put the cuffs on his ankles because he tripped and fell that tell the people have going that route. What you did. He did a great job. You Jack read with imprint covering? Yeah. What he did is that he didn't outside release insi- released in GATT back wide into safety, thirty five. If you watch it takes terrible angle. That's that he the finish. Safety. He's got a pick that because because that through it inside he didn't put normally you. We were taught to catch the ball forty, two import forty two yards from the sideline to keep the safety from coming in plate doctoral punt to him. No, no, no, no rocket. Yes, that's got a big arm. I don't know. I, I think Dax much better than somebody across new. Gave him an efforts performance last. That was last year. I don't know. So fourteen eight left in the fourth quarter. What starts happening first and ten Dallas from its eighteen hole the good old days started happening again because that was a vintage rookie year. Dak drive eighty two yards and fourteen play of lay after play after play key play after key play up to run after key play and what happened when they got it first and ten down at the giants twenty-five Dak I what I say, I've been screaming all last week for run the read option. He's really good at it. He's a slick ball handler, and he's two hundred and fifty pounds who can move. So he. He keeps it goes off left tackle nobody's home, and that leaves him on Landon Collins, Landon whose deep in the box on that play, trying to stop Zeke here. He is Landon, pulled him down and you can't see this. They didn't stay on it long enough, but trust me Dak turned around and gave him an ear full at that point because he was saying challenge except. Challenge accepted his sixteen to twenty five one thing and a touchdown when two plays because he completed his first one for nine yards in the next one for seventy three yards, fifty four yards. So that's what we ran seven times for forty five yards. Well, that's six point four carry. Those were all big key third down plays. So not at, but when you think Celli look the challenge except it would have been to win the ballgame. Once you win the ballgame, regardless of what the quarterback stats are, but skip stop. Pretending like he had a Mahomes day that opportunity had had her cooking's seventy eight last night. That's really good. That scale zero to one hundred. That's really good. And by the way, can I point out to everybody that giants defense last week and it's home opener against the same. Blake Bortles who torched Bill Bill checks defense yesterday we we're going to talk about them right now because the giants defense is really good. I wanna drive it home Dax degree of difficult. He was really I last night because the great Blake Bortles turned into Nick foles yesterday in the Super Bowl had a grand total of QBR of forty one at the giants. Last week. He was eighteen of thirty three for one hundred seventy six yards. That's kinda Dak like last night except he threw a touchdown and an interception that had a seventy eight to Blake Bortles forty one against that defense because the giants defense is really good as him amount of yardage. And the point is my offense of line. I'm going to say it again. It's my weak link. It's not very good. We seldom won the line of scrimmage last night, everything that Dakyns Zeke got seemed like they got them all on their own. So don't tell me the giants offense of line. Is that much worse than the Cowboys in my. I'll take that left tackle that the giants have because he. Smithtown Tom Brady could take you, oh, you say, oh, you saying put a patriots, lift hack. No, I'm just saying Nate soldiers really good now, a big money is I need if you bet as you'll have Smith, you know what he may right now in his career. He just might be because I see enough pay deck was under duress half the night too. But doc was getting rid of the football in ways that he li- goes deer in headlights, goes blind and holds the ball and looks like he's different games. I'm sorry, I watched it up. I think the giants defense is really good. And so do you, that's why you hick they are good skill, but their offense at some point time, I don't care how good you defense is. If you keep putting them back out there, the nothing's unit and you will crack because Jack because the giants gave twenty points to the Jags they gave up twenty points to the Cowboys. The jazz, the is a very good. I mean, excuse me, the giants defense, but they need some help offensively. You can't keep going three, three and out. And you look at Ella go. Oh, look, go look at the game copy in what he like getting up off the ground and look. How big is is our well, there is one hit by DeMarcus Lawrence, where he looked like he was. Now, the only time I saw him go pull Avantis day. Did you. Not him out enough, really. Oh, I go to the coach if you get him out or I'm coming out because I can't. I can't win with this. So he's got a Dell Beckham junior, I don't have an Dell on my team. You can barely name one of my receivers, right? And I don't have a saquon who can get loosen the flat because e leak v is way better than say. I say Friday instead of eat Zeke aid. It's been eight Zeke because he ate way too much going did not look term last night. He looked a little hefty to me. He looked double chimney to me and he, you know what he's going to have to do because he played zero snaps in the preseason. He's going to have to play his way into football shape. And by the second half, we started to see him get a little skit, his football legs, Nathan, and I'm going to remind everybody needed a quarterback or the running back played very much in training games, preseason games. So they're just trying to figure it out. And again, now back to my defense might defense is missing some key pieces. You realize Randy Gregory. Not play last night. What would happen to you? Live Randy. Gregory play Randy Gregg because history says you can't counting concussion. No, no, no, no, no, no. We didn't say he was gonna be concussed. What if history is he's been in the league eligible is fall out. Get this. He's been. He's been. He's been eligible phys. He's been in the league, but he has some issues so you carrying on someone that should be not be accounted what David Irving had been eligible to play game. He could art have mercy Kibble MSU question that David Irvine's molten because he likes to, you know what he likes. I got it, but he'll be back after four games. Daytona Jones was a great pickup for them, and he's a stud in the middle and he's got a bad knee, but they say he might be back for next week. What if all three of those guys have been eligible last night? What would happen to eat? Well, what do you been eating? Just eat. You know what I noticed you noticed one guy he talked about last year. We had this guy. We have been so much better. Why haven't you mentioned Sean Lee? Again, he'd put another clinical, how tackle I thought he was really good less. Night scant saquon was having a hard time against Sean. To make you miss third down where the all I know is Sean Lee because you've got Balki hamstring. They decided to protect his hamstring and pulling the last two series last night and I am hiding my eyes because bad stuff starts to happen all the sudden because he is the coach on the field. He's the quarterback defense and all of a sudden, Jeff heath goes deer in headlights and lets Evan Ingram just run right by playing zone defense, like I was supposed to have him, and it was the easiest throw by either team the night for the touchdown that suddenly got the giants within some last gasp breathing, but you love history skill. What does you history sale by Sean Lee that if some point time during the season he's acting, he'll be just fine Nixon by the way, my starting free safety exam. Your woods? Not there yet. Okay. Tours, hamstring, maybe next week. Do you realize how much better my defense is going to get and it looked pretty great last night, didn't it? Wow. Skip the giants. Offense is tailor-made. Now I'd give you credit. Chris Rashad come in and they're, they're mainly they're not a to anymore. They cover one three team. So what they do in cleared up a lot of things because when you play that coverage, you play for the comeback play for the go because you don't have to worry about the post because you have a centerfield safety. So now and then you have you have land backers that above the Incas. So look, we play the comeback. We're gonna play the go route basically outcome back so, but he's cleared up a lot of things for them. But the sudden I'm seeing z. and Byron Jones, Anthony Brown. They'll man up and just play you right? Nose to nose. They're playing shutdown, man. I haven't seen that can play nose to know against the giants often on that off is if I give somebody that's gonna scare, that's what it comes down to did you see, oh, del running, pass people. I didn't see that. No, no, no. If you look at the way they play cover three, you know you've own -able made. You got a third of the field. He's got midfield safety already feel the other gun. No, the third of the field that's the way you play. So it's going to be very hard. How many times did you see? Richard Sherman get beat because he knows where he's vulnerable engines, don't get beat the. We keep everything in front of us. We make you nickel and dime your way down veal. We'll be just say, woozy turning into Richard Sherman, see that you see why that was. I think you're saying. Of the side. You see him get beat room. Wow. So Cam Newton's offense in the second half once defense got in sync in rhythm. He had a grant toll a seventy four second-half yards and all of a sudden he lied just couldn't move at all except for the last ditch touchdown pass. So I think my defense is going to keep my team afloat. I think my defense is gonna make my team with Dak Prescott generating all the guys had three hundred yards. You guys didn't cross midfield last week. I keep talking about the second half what? What Cam didn't do? What about what you guys didn't do you had even in the first half been KM had in the second half would you want to mention that you wanna talk about that? We just played two really good defenses and we wanted one wanted. What they want. And guess what? So are the two other teams in my division, the eagles and the Redskins are one in one in the giants are too. So we're tied for first and here we come and I'm pretty sure today we are going to re-sign as I brought up last week and was campaigning for Bryce Butler. My man, Brice Butler will be added to the Cowboys roster. I wouldn't mind them going to get Josh Gordon. We'll talk about Josh Gordon a little later in Tampa. The books why I need to know. I don't know. You know, you know. Exactly. I hope so come up Patrick. Oh, you need fits year root for by Rupa metric economy. Greg lookalike really yet a kick dirt on. All I know is enjoy if you have one on the chin that was the real now. I didn't. I didn't know alive with this washed. I'm till he's stone washed. I'm talking at y ou. I mean, I'm looking for real run himself into sacks. I mean, the running back is blocking for him and he's blocking. He's go, put. All Eli has to do skill. Baylor is step up inside then moved to his right tries to roll ally. No, you not that lead a foot. Wow, you doing Dan tacos going to be making a lot of talk. With you, you'll be making a lot of taco once that last forget once that last, okay, he's not what he got his one segment issues out of the way. Really. They don't get a second the next two games better case do he don't get a second next two games in the next two days, two games. Taco chart. I want an easy one last night. I'm back to digits. I'm not gonna get it back. We'll get him back. I don't even know if he's gonna get to play that much. Once Randy Gregory comes because Randy Gregory, although he the first round pick, he li- would have gone down twelve times last night. What was Troy? Aikman's record. I think it was twelve or. When you put about owning. Take from the Cowboys you play, who you play you on the schedule, a lot from them? No, no, no, no, no. But give everybody thought a even cowboy fan like, man, I'm glad we playing jazz, you know, because I know that if they tweet you, they're not Cal not Nater. Don't know. They tweet me because they say alma, hater. I hope skip kill, Hugh, Tamar, go book. I think somebody just got busted, hey, you one, I know you have you got the case, do bag your back, the double digits, but I will get it all back. We'll get it all. I'm real good over here. You're fine. You all talk about like that. Prescott had Patrick Mahomes date for one thing. That way he doesn't play. Why doesn't watch Patrick Mahomes we'll have a four interception game at some point. He just will always though he just well, might. I love him. I love the Kim before the draft. It's high risk, high reward so far, high reward. Everybody look like, why would ended trade up twenty to come get this guy. So against the giants defense last night, Dak heads, zero fumbles, zero interceptors. That's pretty good. Isn't it? Zero Tournai loud. Viva not to turn the ball over skill. I'm learning quickly how fun Mondays. But he I get next block, not so fun. We have a lot more to get to like if the Packers got robbed by the refs yesterday, I agree with that one. And how about the patriots? Are they in trouble. There. Plenty of controversy in Green Bay yesterday with under two minutes left in the fourth and the Packers up eight Kirk cousins threw an interception that would have sealed the win for Green Bay, but clay Matthews was called for roughing. The passer penalty referee. Tony Corinto said Matthews was flagged because he lifted cousins up and drove him into the ground. The Vikings went onto tie the game, and that was the final score after two missed field goals in overtime. Take a listen to Matthews on the controversial play. Call it was, but at the same time. I don't know what else to do. I mean, I don't know, let me know. Tell me I put pressure on that thought I hit him with, you know. Waist chess, got my head across. Put my hands down in the call at that point of the game is just, I mean, it's unbelievable last week. Okay. You know, shame on me, but this week. That's unbelievable. So and the worst part is by Senate in. And you say they're gonna say, you know, they'll find fault on me because they're gonna. They're gonna agree with the rest. So I don't know a difficult call to call. And I mean, you see how it changed the game, and I know there's an emphasis on protecting quarterbacks. Pleads has gotten out of control. I don't know what else to do Shannon. Was it a penalty on clay? This is the textbook when the NFL withdrawing this rule up saying, we don't want to defend to put his weight on the quarterback, this textbook. This is Aaron Rodgers rule. You remember Anthony Barr, not Aaron Rodgers out of the game last year because he put his body weight on any drove him into the turf. This is the exact same thing Klay Matthew understand, you cannot drop your body weight. Tom Brady also has a rules give you remember you can no longer hit the quarterback in the pocket below. The ways, Tom Brady got hit in the knee before they fail. They changed rule the next year. Aaron Rodgers get knocked out of the game. What I second game of the season last year they changed. A rule the following year. This is the way it is clay. You're going to have to adapt. You cannot teacup the guy which means he lifted ever-so-slightly and his shoulder with driven into Kirk cousins, give cousins. My first cousin I told you for real, I told you about, I, we'll do this because even though that might be declared case, and I know what you're going to say that have spoken no talking to. I didn't ask you always put words in my mouth. Yeah, exactly. Why don't you speak for you and for me and then we'll go, no, no, no, I don't wanna do that. 'cause I want to hear what you have to say that got a Bush. I already know because here's the thing, yes, that gay of the Minnesota Vikings sick, a second chance, a new light true. But at the end of the day, overs cousins still had to get them into the end zone and not only did they have to get him in handle. He had to get them two point conversion behi-. He made that throwing the sidelines unity to all alum the'll. I don't know how he got it in there. He got to be magic. I can't wait. That was top of this Houdini. Yeah, they got shoulding bagels. The magic is not that good. Yeah. A bunch of shows pin and teller. So Chris budget of show and they don't got magic. Like what I did yesterday, and then that'll slow rob. Two point conversion that sweet. I'll give you that one but skip. This is this was textbook in the NFL wanted to show guys. This is what we're trying to do because like you said, quarterbacks other face the NFL and they don't want these guys hurt. They missed, Aaron Rodgers will what eight nine weeks last year, Tom Brady, MS, fifteen weeks of the season. They don't want that. So they're not gonna let you dry the quarterback into the dirt anymore hits. This is why you see five, six, seven touchdown performances. This is why you see guys back in the day skip, you know, they would have never thrown for four hundred yards this why you see the offense of explosion because the quarterback protected the receivers protected, and now you're getting these numbers that are going haywire. But this was textbook clay Matthews tip. The pick the guy ever though slightly any drove his shoulder into him. This was the right call and their little if they file in the first quarter. This is a penalty in the third quarter is got to be penalty. Time of the game should not influence should not dictate when you throw the flag of flag of a flag regardless the time of the game and whether or not the outcome of the game could possibly hinge on. But at the end of the day, that flag did not give them a touchdown. Coven steel had to drive this team into the end zone and get the two point conversion and he did it like I knew he would. So everything you just heard was just as wrong as that flag was and your all your opinions backed up from my Jenny from many here because she's a Vikings fan. No, she's on your side. No, no. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Forgot. Wait a second. Okay. I'm pretty sure that referee Tony currency through that flag was also a judge at the triple g fight the night before. I think he did double duty. Eweek and this was an even bigger robbery, and I thought that was an all time robbery because I tweeted at round by round. And I thought that triple g took that fight over in the six round and imposed his will on canal all the way home and he'd lost because to judges said he lost. This was even worse. This is in Green Bay on the how low tundra of Lambeau Field. This is Tony Caridi throwing a flag that canceled out assure Packers victory. It's game over respected. And by the way before I get to just how bad this call was right on schedule your guy, what do you call him? First cousin, eternal, right? Back into Kurt cousins, right on schedule because with two thirteen left, he threw an interception that wasn't exactly his fault, but it was once again wild-eyed over amped over. Did it hit the guy hit Liquan Treadwell, right in the hands through it too hard. It's not money. Well, it's just one of those passes where you just like. I'm out of my mind throws Quantrill right, hands intercepted, but now we get to the key point. It's now down to one forty five left. It's first and ten at the twenty five and Kurt cousins comes flying apart again because he drops back. He goes blind. He goes deer in headlights. He's blinking and he just flings it as far as he can fling it to really to nobody. It looked like Geijer Alexander the rookie cornerback first round draft pick out of Louisville for the Packers. Looked like he was the intended receiver on this play, and it is easily intercepted. And I'm saying there he is. That's Kirk cousins. Yeah, there he is. And then all sudden I hear him say, oh, there's a fly, what there's a fly for what you what? You know what? I watched the replay and I fall out of my chair. The was there was absolutely nothing wrong with what clay Matthews did he. He basically just nice and easily tackled Kirk cousins. That's all he did. He tackling. Just as the ball was leaving his, did he pick him up and drop him as Tony Caridi. Let's see that again. Did he pick him up and dropping? No. You just tired. Right. Daddy fall with all of this body white on Kirk cousins. No, he felt sideway nesting completely this time. Put him in the plane. Helmet town that though we did not hit him down that it was as nice and easy lean. A novel of the quarterback was Kirk cousins heard on his plate. Flag. You know, Kurt himself said, after the game, it was a generous call. Yeah, it was real generous and clay Matthews got victimized again because the game is flat out over. It's one thirty seven left and air. The great Aaron Rodgers has the ball back and he's gonna make one first down and they're going to kill the clock and it's going to be over because it's twenty nine to twenty one at that point. They're up eight point. You'll mind me asking okay when they got that. How many points did the Viking give for that penalty? How many point? Yeah, they got none co Kirk over over over time out. Okay. They got the first down the game fifteen yards, but did they get eight points for that or the Vikings have to drive down the field down to one conversion. So speaking of that touchdown pass to feeling that you talked about did not point out that the magic was that this was such a bad throat that to Packers should've intercepted before feeling caught it and believe it or not. This ball actually. Grazes off Geijer Alexander's jersey. It's twenty, three's jersey at hit on the way down it it it actually carems slightly off his jersey. Look at this. Ooh, to feelings, credit toward to Thelander credit. He stays locked in on the football and he watches it all the way into his hands and it was another. It should have been the third pink of the game for Kirk cousins, and I gave you the two point conversion pass the fate route. It was beautiful, just fly. That's that's. That's too good. But see what I could is showing you what he's capable of when you surround him with better talent, you give him feeling. You give him dig. You give him route up. You give him cook. You give him latavius Murray. Now we didn't get a chance to talk about it. Look at check down Alex. How yesterday get with that fame, not first cousin. We're throwing for four thousand yards and thirty touchdowns and right on schedule every time it gets my Cowboys. I could just book it that he would throw it to us when you least you don't have the play the cowboy. So you have to worry about one in six against my Cowboys, and he should be, oh, and one against his division rival should be the interception that ended going. Odin such an outrageous. How can you roll that flag at Lambeau. With a penalty. Not yet. Defending somebody who's like an Aaron Rodgers dollar almost in the same vein as is LeBron James Shannon Sharpe. Yes. Told me all last week, no way to air. What. What did today? No way. What did they say he should not have played really, really good. Can we early play its third and seven? We saw. Third and seven in the first quarter to tie game and what it Aaron Rodgers. Dude, Bramble scrim. Oh, we don't have that one on, sorry. But he goes right up the middle. He actually gets the, I didn't do. I cannot use the verbal. He ran, no, he ran lay. He ran, he didn't labor. He ran all the way up the middle. How many even let me ask you this in air Rogers, thirteen. Fourteen years in the National Football League. How many times have you seen him where Nibras? Well, it's because as Adam Schefter of ESPN reported yesterday he has a bruised knee, it's bone bruised, so you want to protect the need from taking another shot directly on the knee, but his ligaments were all okay, which is exactly why the team doctor a week ago, Sunday night against the bears at halftime said at halftime. You cannot hurt it any worse. It's because the ligaments were fine. He's doing if ligaments. If you ever need a knee brace, you got the brace on to protect it from taking another shot to the knee because it's very painful, but it doesn't hurt to run straightforward. All I'm saying is how many times have you seen? Have you seen Rogers play? Whenever you go is this did he that look like a menu? Hav Jaren Rogers, wait a second. Look at this. He takes on. I would know he was heart. He's got a Balki brave, but limits your question. Wow. That was Hamburg aware that was the limp around guy. Remember he's playing on quote, unquote one leg. Yes. Wasn't interested. You noted, there's nothing wrong with Tom Brady's, but he wears a knee brace Watkin because he's been through it, he's comfortable with and so he used to wearing it. Rogers is not used to wearing a knee brace. Interesting. When you used to having when you're an athlete, skip, we try Wiegand to a conference on, so whatever kind of pad you where you normally stick with that. And when you have to go outside of your comfort zone, it becomes cumbersome brace or no brace. I told you, err Rogers would play well enough to win the game and he did. I thought he played very well against one of the top five defenses in pro football. Any should won the game and Tony Caridi who ref the Gluskin fight the night before he question the first defers cousins enough to win the game. Now he picked up one hundred twenty five inch. Remember that thanksgiving against back when doc went four for four in the red zone cousins for five hundred yards and loss for four fifty somebody but hold on give the. Man was thirty five or forty eight for four, twenty five and four test how you saying not very good on defense. They are not very good. They're gonna have a hard time. Now, all of a sudden the pack is very good on there. Just not. Oh, so where have you been saying, Rogers, losing the play offs? Thank you. That's all I wouldn't do Jimmy. You've to that Trump. I just wanted to get him record saying back allowing you the. The ho- polling ever here. They're terrible on. Then the Packer air, very good. He was good enough to win the game. It was over with right, if the flag doesn't get thrown, what happened? Matthew doesn't do what he does. Does the flag get thrown into mighty? You can't put your body weight on the quarterback. He didn't put his weight on the PD. It's absurd, highly respected, Tony Carinthia. You need to put some respect. You know what? He, he even had a bad view of it because fifty to the jerseys in between him and the quarterback. With your lucky believe you said that now you're talking about the may of you was struck, couldn't see what was half what he put him back. So he gives the everything. Yesterday in the rematch of last year's AFC title game, they got their first win in nine tries against Tom Brady. Thanks to four touchdown passes from Blake Bortles the patriots offense. Struggled scoring. Only three points in the first half and rob gronkowski was held to two catches for fifteen yards. Here's Brady on the loss. You have about a good team. I mean, that's a recipe for losing, and we certainly had a bad day and we gotta learn from having bad days and just things don't magically happen. You gotta make them happen, and we got to all of us have to have more urgency to do things right more often over the course of practice games, and then it's a matter of going next execute. But it was us. I mean, first couple of jobs just us, and then you're behind planning a situation where point against a great team on the road that plays well when their head and they played really well. Landline in room that phone ringing I dunno blocks borough for that. It was at Jacksonville. Okay. So Shannon who deserves the most blame for that long. Tom Brady doing this, do your job. Lineman. Got a block somebody, passion, so receivers, anytime, but receive a code up on the sideline. Almost say that passion, he's not being a diva. He's not being a malcontent. He's not being divisive. He'd being passionate because we say about Tom Brady. Now back to this wouldn't have to give credit to the Jacksonville Jaguars because here's where the patriots gonna have problem defensively, people saw Nick foles, almost four hundred yards and do what he did in the Super Bowl. So everybody goes into the game saying, we can throw in this team because they do not have any front, seven scale. They don't have one guy, they can say, go get home. So they have to try to schematic try to scheme you schematically. But when you scheme someone, you sacrifice the back end coach check, really, we'd like to play cover to keep everything in front of you, but you can't do that if you can't generate pressure because you gotta take chances. And Tom said, we got behind early the first three giant drive. We didn't do anything. And they spotted Jacksonville and Blake came out hot. And before I go any further, this, the Blake Bortles you saw yesterday in this defense, they're good enough to be the Representative in the Super Bowl, all you just jumped on a new lagging Janet shop and wagon jumps guy here. You're all the chargers on the Jaguar who that because you're looking for somebody always a symbol of a chance of Hombre. Oh, no. I'm just saying, so did you see what they did to Tom Brady yesterday. No, it's not your retore. Does. Blew the Jacksonville defense held them to three hundred total yard. They can put pressure on you just rushing for see everybody. When you look at the Jags they can Russia with four. They got collapsed and they got me Jackson up front so they can collapse the pocket. They got in God way and they got filed on the age and they got fast Tevin Smith. They got miles Jack, baking run in the middle backers. I got, then they got to corners. I might have to best tandem corners in the league. Okay. Now and soul. If you look at the job, they did. They debate haven got berry church. You can go to church on whatever. But anyway, if you see the job Jalen Ramsey had grown, they singled him up man to man. Other than that, they doubled him skip. They ran a coverage. I'd never seen it before in my life, and I play fourteen years. I've covered this. They took the whole safety. They double gronk with the whole safety, and they told the middle backer which was mild, Jack, he ran to the middle of the field. I had never seen a covers like that. So you bring the whole safety down to double. And you take the mic backer and run him to where the vacated unbelievable miles Jack used a new technique to its grabbing gronk. Hold on. Teachers here. Negra Brady was a little off yesterday, really? Blake Bortles was on top of his game yesterday and guys were making catch. You saw the one hand catch by coal. That's as good a catch. If you're going to see this year, I would agree guys and I may play Gil, Blake Bortles. The thing that I like about them is that they stayed aggressive. Now they got a lead twenty three. Then all of a sudden they won't hand off hand down and lake. Blake, throw the ball on third down to end up getting nowhere. But as long as they allow Blake to stay aggressive, the patriots are gonna have problems because they can't can generate. And I thought I was like, man, 'cause we watched him in the first game you like, where was this? Where was this defense in the Super Bowl that would generating this kind of pressure yesterday, I'm looking at them like they're worse than in the Super Bowl. They can generate nothing. And when you can't generate a skip, I don't care how bad the quarterback is. You let him sit back there in bothered, and they will pick you apart in. That's what Blake Bortles will able to do. They didn't bother. The him bidding getting phased in pressure him and he was able to complete path at the play pass after pass the Jags would this Blake Bortles? They're good enough to be because they're gonna keep them in every game skill. That defense is good enough. They're going to be an every game. The question is, can Blake Bortles I'm not saying like this. I'm more touchdown, but can't he be some resemblance of up lever, say Kenny, be a top ten top thirteen quarterback, anything like that. Oh, they're good enough to be the Representative. Was after twelve minutes. Thank God iming you now. Bottom line against that Saxon Ville defense in the NFL's hottest game in the last fifteen years since the game fifteen years ago outside air Zona ninety se