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"I am six forty. It is the dark secret voice for your saturday. April third two thousand and twenty one a lot of stuff to cover tonight. The big issue is nato at the atlantic council the eu as well as the united states all eyes are on putin and his intentions towards the eastern part of ukraine as a russian. Build up of forces get continues to this hour. Multiple violations of the so-called minsk accord a ceasefire been happening and the president yesterday with a call directly to the ukrainian president vladimir zilenski and a readout of that. We'll get to that and then also there's a china news china-taiwan news. There's a curious synchronicity. With some of the ramp up of issues happening around taiwan and china as well as ukraine almost as if somebody was coordinating it and you would say hey. Let's try for to international crises simultaneously. And right when you thought. Maybe you wouldn't hear the name. Isis in the news ever again this debacle in mozambique still unfolding has been going on now for about a week and a half but isis. Mozambique which you may be probably have never heard of or if you were watching american news this week. You certainly didn't hear of them. But they made their presence known in a energy sector attack on the indian ocean coast the eastern coast of africa and the nation of mozambique and it much and it was a. It was ugly scene. But we'll We'll get to it And you are listening via podcast And it's sunday morning or monday. Whatever thank you very much When we say live everywhere on the iheartradio app. That is the reason that dark secret place now is in at seventy third week of the top. One hundred of the iheartradio top one hundred we curate. The company curates Several hundred thousand podcasts. And the ones that get the the most downloads are rated in the top one hundred every week and last week we were number four. But we've been in the top. What had now for seventy three weeks. And as well as spotify and apple itunes and all that so. I appreciate you downloading and listening but i would rather that you moved to los angeles and actually listen on the amplitude modulation frequency of six hundred forty kilohertz regardless many. Thanks for listening. So let's let's get to it. So you're you're seeing you saw on tonight's if you watch the news on the weekend i would but Last when last. We checked friday night as well as tonight. The buildup in ukraine continues to be one of the top stories Because it's ominous there's video available and vladimir putin continues to be a mystery surrounded by 'nigma wrapped in a question mark and the whole thing. We don't know what his motives are and the whole deal. It's it's fairly complex. But you need some back story to figure out what might happen in the next few days so thing one it does in two thousand fourteen when the little green men. The guys without flags on their uniforms were flown into crimea. Brought in by a russian black sea fleet ships and just flat out drove in and overran the peninsula that that sticks out of ukraine into the black sea that see crimean peninsula. That was two thousand fourteen and set up. Sort of an ammo. I shouldn't say it set up an emo when putin invaded georgia in two thousand eight and took two majority russian regions and then kept them. Abkhazia and south ossetia. We got an emo from the guy back in two thousand eight as a world was watching the opening ceremonies of the beijing summer olympics putin told his guys you know whatever. The red rooster crows at midnight and they The a a preplanned meticulously staged invasion took place and the russians rolled into north georgia. The republic of georgia which at the time was on the shortlist to possibly join nato and two regions two states of georgia. We're majority russian. And certain precursors putin mailed every ethnic russian who responded to a survey mailed them a russian passport mailed them papers saying i am an ethnic russian a citizen of russia and i currently live in abkhazia north asia. So he signalled his intentions several weeks before and then he made it good he invaded. They occupied the russian the ethnic russian areas and then they declared a peacekeeping force in all this who he and the whole thing and the world. You pretty much check it off. It was a seventy two hour one hundred our piece of tactical speed and initiative that worked out for putin. Then you go fast forward to two thousand fourteen. And he does a similar thing because what you what you need to know. Backstory wise is that crimea. The crimean peninsula was always has been a majority ethnic russian region it was as czarist russian enclave Hence the russell the anglo russian of eighteen thirty six and the charge of the light brigade whole thing and it's been ethnic russian four hundred and sixty years now at about ninety percent ethnic russian so when putin invaded crimea. He knew that he would be welcomed by the population the civilian population and that he could he could immediately announce a referendum a complete fabrication of the democratic process. And that he wouldn't have to. He wouldn't have to fake it in fact he could just throw referendum and say hey who says we should be of russia and oddly enough. The only people came out and voted ethnic russians and by a ninety nine percent. Two point five percent or point five percent of whatever the referendum passed that. Golly we should be part of russia and so putin was able to turn the democratic process around on the west on obama on nato everybody and say hey look all we did was answered the will of the people we came when they called watering even know who these guys are and he he injected these people that we deemed that little green men and they were regular russian soldiers. They were russian. Airborne soldiers russian special forces spetsnaz. And all. this does it. They did not wear any identifying markings k they did not wear name tags or shoulder patches or anything indicating who they were or where they were from and it. It sowed some confusion for about four days. Four or five days and what putin was saying all along was well. They're not my guys Their local ukrainian militia. And they've had it up to here with these ukrainians and they have taken over an amazingly coordinated and allied way. They have intimidated or flat. Out fought ukrainian armed forces Into into a retreat the ukrainians. Leave the crimean peninsula. We allow the guys who surrender to To drive out the whole thing and it's ours these ethnic russians. I owe them my ear. Nolting they were regular russian army all along and the way the russians defended it in the western press. it's famous because the minister of defense surrogate shogo said well. You can't search for a black cat in a dark room. there's nothing there with the point. He was making his. You know you're trying to retrofit. These guys is russian army. It says there's no facts there you can't put it together and then he famously said you can't look for a black polite cat in a dark room and Then it so. The joke became the polite man and so ever. Since two thousand fourteen the russians have been putting up statues to their own soldiers and and their men in combat gear. And they're usually shaking hands with a child and in one case a russian soldier in one. Bronze statue was carrying a kitten. I'm not making this up. That's in the city of simferopol. There's a russian soldier holding a kitten greeting child and it's a statue in memorial to the polite man and and that's the joke within the joke and that was the the model for for two thousand fourteen so here. We aren't twenty-one ban. Massive russian forces are surging towards the eastern ukrainian russian border. And nato's on edge. Nato nato calling it impending conflict which is the highest assessed rating of a possible Action that you can have. It's not a area of concern Or were looking at the border. Build up they're calling it impending conflict and there are nato soldiers on the ground in ukraine american trainers Nato trainers french-british canadian. They're physically on the ground in western ukraine where they train the ukrainian military so in the eastern ukraine where they border russia. The the two breakaway republics are the center of attention for american reconnaissance as we speak. There's a us navy poseidon which is a seven thirty seven. This is packed with electric gear. Orbiting off the black sea off the crimean peninsula. More on this when we come back here in just a second but this make no mistake. The tension is higher than it has been since two thousand fourteen since the annexation of crimea. And nato's taking this very seriously and readying forces to respond and that's a problem into itself. It's a dark secret place sits in here until eleven o'clock. Kfi am six forty live everywhere on the iheartradio app. Forty is dark secret boyfriend. Justin in here until eleven o'clock and our focuses on ukraine and the alarming build up of russian forces along the ukraine russia border the east of ukraine. And keep in mind that. At the time that putin occupied crimea and made it a de facto part of russia at the same time. So-called organic militias ukrainian citizens of russian descent seemingly overnight organized into very. Well armed militias. That seem to have a lot of very well. Trained military aid physically fit young men who spoke russian on video with a distinctly moscow accent not with the ukrainian accent and this would be i. Guess what i'm talking about is if you took a bunch of guys from maine and you brought them to sell mar and you You had them dressed like the locals. You would notice something right. You would notice something in their english. That they were not from sylmar are they weren't even like from shurmur oaks on or anything like that or you take him to huntington beach you. Would you would notice that all the sudden there's a bunch of guys you know that osama main lobstermen or something like that. That's how obvious it was back in two thousand fourteen fifteen and once again Putin had what he always wants he had this amazing deniability said. I don't know what you mean. They're not in russian uniform. Why are you asking me. These guys during ukraine there in the breakaway republic of donetsk which is a two province eastern part of ukraine. That's now become a de facto standalone russian breakaway republic as they call it when the russians bring russian forces to the border of ukraine. It's really not the border of ukraine it. Because there's no ukrainians on the ukrainian border in the east. They left six years ago. So when the russians get to that border. They're not checking in with kiev They're just driving in. And they're saluting the the luhansk donetsk autonomous republic guards that are there and they're and those guys by the way are probably being paid by moscow. The probably in the regular russian army so so when so don't be distracted by russian forces on the ukrainian border. There is no ukrainian border on in their east. The one that you look at internationally. If you look at google maps a either or google earth or any sort of mapping program. Nobody is admitting this that eastern ukrainian border is actually about a hundred miles in because that entire area has been occupied by pro russian ethnic russian forces who are technically inside of ukraine. So it's a pre invasion six years ago and so the the continued speculation about. What's what are putin's motives go on. There is one very significant thing. And i think if you ask if you look at a potential foe and you look at his actions and you read his words in my experience if they say they're a thing than take their word for it and so Moscow tv are novosti russia today. All of them they're hanging their rhetoric their warlike rhetoric on one thing that the ukrainian president did on march eleventh. That did not make the news at in the united states. And i'll tell you what that is right after this. It's the dark seek. Replace brian seats in here until eleven. Kfi am six forty live everywhere on the iheartradio app by putting. It is the dark speaker points on till eleven o'clock and a doing a deep dive into the boiling point intentions going on with a russian military buildup on the ukrainian border russian ukrainian porter. It appears to be a precursor to a larger landgrab invasion. And so so. Here's the background something that you're not hearing. A american media are covering this Is that the ukrainian president vladimir zielinski. Remember he's he is the the david letterman of ukraine. He's the guy who sort of in the chaos after the the orange revolution through his name out there and said what the hell. It's a goof. You know i'll run. And you sort of the schwarzenegger of of ukraine after gray davis was recalled in. But he's a smart guy. Here's the thing he's not a grab ass He might be a grab s but he's not a dumb ass and he has learned pretty rapidly and he is a ukrainian and he doesn't want to be invaded and he does have smart people around him. The whole thing and so the annexation of crimea of sovereign territory as well as the russian supply of the so-called militias that broke away from ukraine in the eastern provinces. He's made a promise of the ukrainian people that we're going to be whole again. We'll take back. Crimea keep in mind. The the financial asset of crimea is the port of sevastopol. And it's loss left ukraine only with the port of odessa which is nice but sevastapol is the traditional a port of entry for ukraine. And it's now in russian hands and that's where the russian black sea fleet is is based and and the whole so he has promised that. Hey we're gonna be getting that back. And if i leave this office with a legacy. It's going to be that. I made ukraine whole again and the whole thing so on march eleventh. He issued a presidential decree with four points. But it boils down to this. We're gonna take ukraine back and we're going to do it. Pretty quickly and moscow interpreted that as a challenge. Moscow interpreted that as a promise that military action invasion whatever was impending and it would be coming from the ukrainians and this is matched with the ukrainian army surging forces to the very small Million borders and so keep ticking keep mind. Ukraine is a very large country about the size of southern california but imagine that the island of catalina was right up against san pedro right and that a bit of it about a ten mile ten mile. Width causeway not causeway. But but Connected southern california with san with catalina island right and so that is e crimean peninsula. If you cut a canal across it would be an island. But it's not. It's a peninsula with with very narrow connection to the mainland and so the ukraine's began moving ukrainian forces to that border. The russians responded on tv in information space on rt on twitter and everything and only close observers in nato and the eu and all that notice this we we didn't notice when's alinsky issued presidential proclamation and but we did notice when the russians responded. So here's the other thing. The ukrainian government has cut off. Water to the crimean peninsula. They they did this. Several months ago. meanwhile because by the way if you don't know this a black sea is not super deep and this part of the north lexi is shallow enough that that you can join the crimean peninsula with a large bridge with the causeway and this causeway goes from from russia to the southern part of the crimean peninsula and the russians have had to also add the cost of a fresh water line so the russians are effectively trucking freshwater into crimea as well as a pumping in from russia because ukraine cut off the fresh electricity. Come from the russian side you know the whole thing and so the russians take this very seriously now you when the russians are saying. Hey there's an invasion impending from ukraine so we're just defending it. The international law part of this is how how would ukraine invading sovereign territory. Because nobody's ever recognized Putin's claim on the crimean peninsula. It was an invasion pure and simple. Nobody did anything about it. There were significant sanctions by the way. For instance the eu said. No trade in military gear could happen between the eu and russia. That already was in place for the us but because of that the french who had completed two russian aircraft carriers in to loan they were in the dock in the dry docks. They were completed. They were two russian specifications and they were loosely based on the russian army on the french navy's mistrial class of helicopter carrier and the russians. Were going to fly helicopters and vertical takeoff aircraft off of two of these carriers that they paid for all of a sudden. France couldn't complete the deal with putin in two thousand fourteen and putin was pissed. He didn't say it out loud but he was really angry that he hadn't thought of that. So what france the did was they said. Well we can't afford him. We're not going to buy them for the french navy. We don't even need them. And then out of the clear blue sky in two thousand fourteen. The king of saudi arabia king salman not not his son. Nbs but King solomon back in two thousand fourteen said to france. Well what if. I stepped forward and pay for them and given to egypt and so the russian terriers were paid for in cash by saudi arabia and then promptly handed over to the egyptian navy and they were Christened the nasser sadat the gamal abdel nasser and the unwashed set up so that was one real effect of the two thousand fourteen annexation of crimea. And me saying annexation by the way is a bit of a western rhetorical surrender it was an invasion and putin was rewarded for the invasion and so if zilenski wants to take his own country back is that an invasion and no. It's not it's a active self defense but the russians are saying well what you're seeing in this surge forces as raising tensions between when russia is nothing more than us defending russian citizens because this crazy ukrainian whose president has said he's gonna invade crimea. And that's the back story that you're not that you're not seeing. So it's a little a little more complex than simply. Well putin's driving his army into the ukrainian border and the whole thing. Okay so what are the actual forces that are being arrayed first of all one. The first things that the russians did is that they have sort of a permanent mobile force called the fifty sixth airborne brigade and aarp icee airborne in air quotes because they have a lot of tanks self-propelled artillery which is not exactly a airborne asset. And they're not jumping into crimea. They got on trucks and they drove across the giant causeway on the kerch peninsula into crimea. And they there is endless video of trains with artillery for the record. The the russian missed a a to us. One thousand nine hundred and fifty two millimeter self-propelled artillery piece which is excellent one of the best in the world and t seventy two tanks are personnel carriers there surging this airborne brigade into the crimean peninsula as we speak and videos being uploaded minute by minute by minute and there's two flavors of it. It's interesting because slapping zilenski down is extremely popular in russia. You're seeing some with russian. Heavy metal added to it. And and the russians are high fiving and pumping in the whole thing because they want. They want to see a confrontation. So they're reinforcing. Russian forces on the crimean peninsula and they're pumping More conventional armored brigades infantry brigades into eastern ukraine where they would be setting up forward on these the on the real battle area which is not again not the border. The border was violated in two thousand fourteen. When these so-called organic rebellions happen so those those are de facto bits of russia and putin's still claims that that one of the most ridiculous claims was off duty or a russian soldiers on our on our were voluntarily going into ukraine and fighting with their ethnic russian brothers and all this but so a given update to the latest and also some of the most informed speculation is saying and it follows the know the principle that the past is prologue that we already know. Putin's playbook so we can probably project what next week will look like if in fact this in this all this posturing and reinforcing goes connecticut. So more on that here just a second. It's dark secret place. Brian seats in here until eleven o'clock. Kfi am six forty live everywhere on the iheartradio app give. Im six forty. It is the dark secret place. Brian suits back here until eleven. Live everywhere on the iheartradio app and We're we're seeing a lot of covers today. Say on Your your cnn. Your msnbc bbc across the way more in europe than than here. But the the build up of russian forces against the ukrainian. Let's say frontier. Because they're while they're while they're still in officially russian soil. They're basically one tank of gas away from the actual front. Which is the the two breakaway eastern ukrainian republics so-called autonomous republics that are run by ethnic russians and they are of course defended by so-called melissa's that seemed to have a top of the line the latest gear from russia. And really really weird foreign aid program there but So we are seeing that. And the as i say there are the russians are a tank of gas away from what are undoubtedly what are called staging positions so as they're sitting in russia what nato is seeing right now is that they are They're they're a at night In in unmarked border crossing areas of crossing from russia into ukraine. Even though it's not you know. A the ukrainian border police are not there. Ukraine doesn't have any sovereignty over the soil because it's occupied by breakaway ethnic russians. Right so they're moving forward into what what we in. Land warfare call areas and If if your uncle was a special forces guy ranger or whatever. That's good for him. But this is this is my world as a armor scout a cavalry scout and a guy. I know what i'm looking at. Because the the russians haven't changed how they do business the the way that they move in column and the way that they prepare for an assault ground assault hasn't changed from from nineteen ninety-five nineteen eighty five. Nine thousand nine hundred seventy five and nineteen forty five and that is what they're doing right. Now they're moving companies and battalions forward into what are called alpha alpha's and the american military. That's simply means assembly area and the assembly area is the the last place that you go before you move into your assault position at the assembly area. You do your final maintenance you top off your fuel you receive your final delivery of ammo and food and you do your final reorganization and cross Reorganization you traded a company of infantry for a company of armor with your your the battalion on your left and and all this in in the assembly area the the next step When you move out is to go to your final assault position and and that means you get into the battle ray That you're going to enter into hostile territory and you don't do it in a column and you don't do it with the dress uniform you you you see what i mean You go forward as if you're already in contact with the enemy and then you wait for the whatever. The opening moves can be okay so nato knows that the russians are moving into east ukraine. And they're moving into assembly areas and that tactically. The russian army is is in ukraine. But they're in a they're in friendly areas that are defended by russia militia. So what's the next step. I'm how do we know Balloon goes up on this. What's it gonna look like. Well we all we gotta do is go back to two thousand fourteen to know that and two thousand and eight in georgia. The russians have become extremely good at at disrupting utilities communications. And and the third thing would be social media and their their methods have been examined by the chinese and examined by us and they have been replicated by By the chinese in burma and the russians are aware that everything. I'm i looked at today. Today is raw video. That was uploaded russians around voronezh around rostov as their as their pumped up about their army moving into ukraine and they're watching russian tv. Rt and and and local channels in moscow tv nells. They're seeing this. This marshall call to slap each ukrainians down because they think they're going to retake crimea. And all this and so. I'm seeing all this raw video. And what would probably be cut off by the russians would be the ability to upload into social media because i'm getting a lot of information from it because the video is it's easy to geo locate. It's easy to to sort of backward engineer where it was shot in the video. I'm seeing i'm counting artillery And i can. I can see In video The same column trains carrying tanks and artillery. That another guy uploaded maybe three hours ago and he shot video that leaving rostov and then another guy. Shoot video of it as it goes through voronezh and it's It's heading west ukraine. And i and i can. I can read the numbers on the vehicles and i know what the units are that significant that some grab ass just watching social media can track the movement of a russian armor battalion but three or four companies of of armor on trains. So i'm looking at twelve tanks and a bunch of ammo vehicles armored recovery vehicles than twelve more tanks and more of the same vehicles so i'm watching that battalion as it moves forward the the russians know doing it. They know that was doing it. They know that the us is doing it. And yes they know that ukraine is doing it and that Any intelligence of the us has is being passed on to ukraine. So when that's stuff stops being uploaded and then the utility start going out in ukraine and then the atm's don't work and the social media and the internet doesn't work that is the modern day equivalent of artillery barrage. More on this next hour also. Next hour i went through a really amazing small arms. Simulating simulator trainer called the sam. T. at fort lewis washington. It was absolutely amazing. I can't believe the army is considering getting rid of it. And then oh by the way. The air force thinks that super long-range artillery is quote stupid. close quote. We'll get our number two the dark secret police this. Kfi am six forty live everywhere on the iheartradio app.
Morning Brief for Thursday, September 26th
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Democrats to subpoena White House for Ukraine documents.
"Coming up on the news a US Democrats to Subpoena White House for Ukraine Documents Boris Johnson says the UK is offering brexit compromise to the EU and Bernie Sanders cancels campaign events for artery blockage surgery. It's Wednesday October two. I'm Anthony Davis how Democrats it's pursuing an impeachment inquiry of Donald Trump say they will subpoena the White House on Friday for documents related to his dealings with Ukraine citing flagrant flagrant disregard of their previous requests for Information House oversight and Reform Chairman Elijah Cummings wrote in a memo to committee members today that the action is necessary because the White House's ignored multiple requests given the stock an urgent warnings the Inspector General the intelligence community has delivered to Congress coming. Ming said the panel has no choice but to issue this subpoena the subpoenas directed towards Acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney it requests thirteen separate put batches of documents related to July phone call that trump had with Ukrainian President Vladimir Zilenski and related matters the oversight panel will issue the Subpoena Pena in coordination with the House Intelligence and foreign affairs committees coming said Secretary of State. Mike pompeo acknowledged today that he was on the phone call between in trump and Zilenski that is at the center of the impeachment inquiry. He said that America's chief diplomat he is well versed in US policy toward Ukraine but pompeo continued to push back against what he said was Democrats bullying and intimidation the trump administration has set a defined tone home resisting congress access to witnesses even as House Democrats warn such efforts themselves could amount to an impeachable offense in the UK off of the European Union a proposed last minute deal on brexit today that that is said represents a realistic compromise for both sides as Boris Johnson urged the block to hold rapid negotiations towards a solution after years of wrangling with Britain due to leave the block at the end of this month Johnson said in a letter to European Commission President Jean Claude Juncker that not reaching a deal would be the failure of statecraft for which we would all be responsible he did not mention that the EU and the UK did reach a deal in two thousand eighteen only for it to be rejected three times by Britain's parliament the new proposals focus on maintaining an open border between the UK's Northern Ireland and e Hugh member island the key sticking point to a brexit deal the UK proposes to do that by keeping Northern Ireland closely aligned to EU rules for trade trade in goods possibly for an extended period the proposals and Johnson's letter were conciliatory despite having been built by Johnson's office as a take it or leave it final offer to the EU he said the government was offering constructive and reasonable proposals to the EU Johnson Johnson said the plan was compromised by the UK and I very much hope how friends understand that and compromise in their turn twenty twenty Democratic presidential candidates Bernie Sanders is canceled campaign events until further notice after undergoing surgery. Mr Sanders was treated in hospital for an arterial blockage after experiencing chest pain at an event in Nevada yesterday an advisor to the seventy eight year old Vermont senator said he was in good spirits and we'll be resting over the next few days following medical evaluation and testing. He was found to have a blockage in one artery and two stents was successfully inserted. A stent is a small. Mesh Tube used to keep arteries open. Receiving stents is a minimally invasive procedure typically with shorts recovery time it is unclear how long Mr Saunders will need to recover from his surgery and whether it will affect his appearance in the next democratic debate on October fifteen polls show. Mr Sanders is third in the democratic race behind Massachusetts Seducing Senator Elizabeth Warren and former Vice President Joe Biden. You can subscribe ascribe to the news with your favorite podcast APP. Ask Your Smart Speaker or enable the news as your Amazon Alexa Flash briefing skill follow us on twitter at the news underscore podcast. The news is an independent production covering politics inequality health and climate delivering favoring honest verified and truthful World News daily.
Full Episode: Wednesday, September 25,2019
"Is there something that interferes with your happiness or is preventing you from achieving your goals better help online counseling. Is there for you connect with your professional counselor L. Slur in a private online environment scheduled secure video or phone sessions plus chat and text with your therapist listeners. Get Ten percent off your first month by going to better better help dot com slash nightline good evening. Thank you for joining us. The battle lines have been drawn and high drama is unfolding in the nation's capital the president today authorizing the release of a memo of a call between him him in the head of Ukraine the content now subject of accusations of an abuse of power and impeachment probe. Here's ABC's David Wright and you remind I today at the UN president trump and Ukrainian President Vladimir Zilenski were all smart Zilenski. A professional comedian Indian even cracked a joke banter to be on TV then by phone. Yeah I think a wise crack about the phone call they had back in July ally that call now the focus of an impeachment inquiry today the White House released a summary Transcript at issue whether president trump the pressure that Ukrainian president to investigate Joe Biden and his son after Hunter Biden landed a cushy spot on the board of directors of a Ukrainian gene energy company asked about it point blank engaged about Joe Biden and the Ukrainian president diplomatically demure order. Nobody push it pushed me. Yes no for president trump. No pressure is the new no collusion no push. It's no pressure no nothing so a hoax. It's all a big hoax. There was no pressure. It turned out to be nothing call other than a lot. The people said I never knew you could be so nice but trump did not have such nice things to say about Speaker Nancy Pelosi and her decision to pursue an impeachment inquiry. He's been taken over by the radical. Unfortunately he's no longer. The speaker of the House today Washington digested the first bit it of hard information about that July phone call this five page memorandum at one point Zilenski. Thanks trump for America's support fending off off Russian aggression. L. Says he's ready to buy more missiles from the US trump. I would like you to do us a favor. Though in another spot trump says there's a a lot of talk about Biden's son that Biden stopped the prosecution so whatever you can do with the attorney general would be great. According to the summary Trump mentions mentions the biden's by name at least three times during the call and he repeatedly asked the Ukrainian president to follow up with Rudy Giuliani and attorney general bill bar. Everything accelerated today when that transcript summary that phone call hit Washington just lit up and not in a good way what the president ended his allies have to do is argue that what people see in that transcript isn't what they see in that transcript. The notes of the call reflect a conversation far more damning than I or many others had imagined what those notes reflect is. A classic mafia-like shakedown of foreign leader the crucial question is is it illegal. It's right on the line if they could prove that he was knowingly soliciting something of value from afar national to influence the election that could be a campaign pain finance violation but is it a high crime and misdemeanor something that qualifies for impeachment that will only be in the eye of the Congress. It's political. There's no official definition of what a high crime and misdemeanor is. It's important to note that the summary is not a verbatim transcript. It is hardly the the last word there are also questions about what exactly Giuliani and bar did to follow up and there's the complaint from the whistle blower from the intelligence community a complaint that the inspector general found to be credible and of urgent concern the whistle blower complaint must be scrutinized today members of the Senate and House intelligence allegiance committees finally got a chance to review classified copy of the whistle blowers complaint the trump administration finally handed over after two weeks of defying vying requests from Congress tomorrow. They'll grill the director of national intelligence about it in open hearings. Elissa blower complaint is hearsay. Hear the whistle blower was not on the phone call. They heard about the phone call from somebody else. ABC News has learned of additional requests made by the trump put ministration before that phone call even took place. It has been a wild day here up on the hill boots side not surprisingly retreating to their partisan corners today a Utah Senator Mitt Romney speaking at the Atlantic Festival appeared to be one of the only Republicans to publicly question the president's conduct the President President States asks or presses the leader of a foreign country to carry out an investigation of a political nature. That's troubling most. Republicans are publicly publicly standing by the president. I think we need to get all the facts I mean. The president said it did nothing wrong. I also think we need to be measured in our analysis and I think Democrats the problem is they've gotten out over their skis over and over and over again hysterical over things that they didn't necessarily need to be hysterical about impeachment is a sword that cuts both both ways. We know that House Democrats have been indulging their impeachment obsession for nearly three years now a never ending impeachment pitchman parade there is a danger for Democrats of overplaying their hand riling up trump's base just as we head into an election year Republicans which hindsight's presidential harassment's for Democrats. There's also a danger of tarnishing their own twenty twenty front runner former Vice President Biden. You're in trouble and in a controversy. I'm shocked. I've never seen this before. Never been in a controversial before. Sean Hannity on Fox News has been beating the drum on the Biden story. It's a case instead of crying out to be investigated if it doesn't get investigated we just don't have equal justice in this country. Now the impeachment process inevitably will give that story wider circulation and scrutiny. Do you think it is an impeachable. This particular instance is an impeachable offense based on the material that they acknowledged today. It seems to me it's awful hard to avoid the conclusion that is an impeachable offense and a violation suv constitution responsibility the president's defense so far has been to point the finger Joe Biden and accused him essentially the same thing the problem with that is that as of today day there's no credible evidence that Biden did anything other than support the international community and until they can present some evidence which suggests that there's a link between what Joe Biden did and his son. There's no there there there so you see it as a false equivalence. It is as of today it's absolutely false equivalents while the president may be in danger of being impeached so far there appears to to be no danger. He'll be removed from office. Just say understand. It's the single greatest witch hunt in American history probably in history but in American history. It's a disgraceful thing so long as Republicans in Congress have his back Speaker Pelosi did yesterday really was the worst. We've seen yet where she announced an impeachment inquiry without any evidence. It ought to give every American grave concerns today. It was the Ukrainian cranium president who applied pressure trump. Can you give me a war that you'll come to our great. I'M GONNA try. I know a lot of people the president trump wouldn't make any promises safe to say he has enough on his hands at least for the next few months at the end of the day they must laugh their asses says of President Trump sounded downright dejected about the whole fence people have said they don't know of one man anywhere in the world with all the men they know or woman that could handle what I've had to handle this day to David Wright for nightline in New York up next one on one with Demi Moore journey of loss growth and triumph. 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A. dot com slash nightline capterra software selection simplified she was once the highest actress ever in Hollywood me more mending her place in Hollywood history with timeless roles now the actress exposing aside live few have seen before in raw and candid interview with ABC's Diane Sawyer opening up about her painful past private demons and ascent to stardom thank you this is my treehouse. It's very Serene Highness. My seven dollars a riot of dogs most of them. Rescues hues wandering the kitchen and the big fridge is always docked with juice and soda for friends and family dropping by. It's a beautiful house up in the hills above Hollywood the place conquered by Demi Moore when she was in her twenties a young woman with those mysteries in her face a husky voice and hit after hit but we're here because she's ready to tell us about the life. We didn't know the one that seemed to be unraveling seven seven years ago husband. She loved had left her children. Were at speaking to her. Her former husband and friend rand pulled away to isolation anguish. She weighed one hundred and two pounds conway at a birthday party. There were party drugs synthetic pot nitrous oxide. She used them. She had a seizure breathing. Normally no not so normal more taking sing my body flailing my daughter terrified that she was going to see me die right in front of her and and and within me I was in a place that was sticking wow. How did I get in here. Isn't this interesting and then my very next thought was oh I wonder if I can get out and all of a sudden I was back in my body and I think it was a moment that I was somehow being given a choice that close I think certainly emotionally it was demi. Moore is now fifty fifty six looking back at that devastating crossroads. I guess the fundamental question that came forward for me was how did I get here. I mean made from where I started to what I've experienced where I've been like. How did I get here. I lost me and I think the thing if I were to look back I would say `I blinded myself and I lost. I lost myself so she said out to reclaim her life and in a new memoir reaches out to anyone else struggling she dedicates the book to the three daughters she loves and surprisingly surprisingly to someone else her own troubled teenage mother who didn't know how to protect the little girl in the cat eyeglasses you growing up it. It is her mother and father. Both battle alcoholism move the family constantly ahead of debt infidelities not thunderous fights. She's twelve when her mother first attempts suicide she writes. I remember using my fingers. The small fingers of a child help to dig the pills. My mother tried to swallow out of her mouth and it wasn't the last time now there was many many times you you said your childhood was done yeah life changing moment and then this stunning revelation that the man you love your father was not your biological father and others in your family knew this. I made up about that that I'm wasn't wanted or that. I don't deserve served be here when her father leaves. She's responsible for her unstable mother. As an anxious teen she has taken by her mother to bars so that men will notice them. She's fifteen when she comes home. One night and an older man they know is in the apartment with the king she writes it was rape and a devastating betrayal revealed by the man's cruel question. How does it feel to be horde by your mother for five hundred dollars Do you believe she sold you. I think in my deep heart no I don't think it was a straightforward transaction but she still did give him the access and put me in harms way so now look look again at the mysteries inside the face of the teenage girl who drops out of highschool leaves her mother's home and sets out determined to invent a future sure for herself. She's penalties a little wild running hard and signs up for acting auditions. Even though she has no training I mean I was figuring it out like by the seat of my pants the school of fake it till you make it scared to death or with some confidence. I think it was more. The confidence was was. I don't have anything to lose. I don't have anything to lose. I don't have anything so why not and then her lucky break look at this. She is nineteen years old walking through the door of general hospital. Well we have a seat and relax. Their promises will be very painless. She knows she's in over her head and right. She's taming her fear with alcohol and then cocaine there would be blackouts moments of humiliation like her parents parents ever have an odd switch. I don't have the thing that says this is enough. In the nineteen eighty-four. She's asked to join the coolest young team of actors in Hollywood. It's a movie called. Saint almost fire and the producer and director have given her apart play. She knows does well. Let me drive you home. Good calc I made I think the irony certainly was not lost on me. They came to you and said go to Rehab. It's a profound gift that they gave me. She commits to sobriety and the pledge will last until she's in her forties and falling wildly in love. You will be sober for how long almost twenty years it's time to head to her. Family Roy look at some of those movies that caused a kind of earthquake quake in Hollywood. She took chances excited to your ghost was an expensive gamble about a combination of laughter uh-huh Grief Pottery Super Sexy that is for sure right and everlasting romance in a few good men. She defies studio bosses with the studio executive saying if there wasn't going to be a sexy and then you know why was I in it. She often has no points or quarterback charms right here. I love when she says she has a point. She often has no does the hits keep coming. She becomes the highest paid actress ever in in Hollywood a twelve point five million dollars salary by the movie strip tease and then a producer on G. I. Jane as Critics Assail Her for her nerve serve her ambition. They called you Gimme more. There was some things like that. Why shouldn't I why shouldn't all women be paid equal to the quality of the work. They're doing what they're bringing not because of their gender and finally tonight a very happy birthday to one of of our own the torture force. 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Impeachment Pipe Dreams
"Thank you for listening to this podcast one production available on Apple podcasts and podcast one today on the Charlie Kirk show we examined Zaman all the myths all the facts and the fiction surrounding the Ukrainian controversy we dive deep and we'll tell you what's actually going on then we do a unique take on cancel culture all from a center right fair unique perspective. This is Charlie Kirk host Charlie Kirk show your home of rational conservative Libertarian Libertarian thinking buckle up here. We Go Charlie. What you've done is incredible here. Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus. We are lucky to have charlie. Charlie kirks running the White House. I WANNA thank Joe. He's an incredible guy his spirit his love of this country's done an amazing job building. One of the most powerful youth organisations ever created turning point. USA He will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries destroyed lives and we are going to fight fight for freedom on campuses across the country. That's why we are here. Welcome everybody to this edition of the Charlie Kirk show boy. Do we have an amazing show in store for you you last week. I was watching the news and as soon as I saw this whistle blower story quote Unquote Whistle Blower story pop up. I knew that this was going to turn into a big story about nothing and we're gonNA walk through the Charlie Kirk show right here. Exactly what president trump is being accused love the facts. We're GONNA get all the facts. Were in a lay them all out. We're going to go into why the Democrats are all the sudden so focused on the I word on the big word but as soon as I saw that story last week where there was a allegation that there was a whistle blower and for those that don't know what a whistle blower our is essentially it is a metaphor of somebody who blows a whistle when they see something that goes wrong in the government and this whistle blower allegedly went through the inspector general or some form of oversight to try to hold a Donald Trump and president trump accountable for a lot of alleged activity liberty and we're GONNA get into all of that and some of the the facts and some of the fiction surrounding that and then over the last couple of days my goodness we have seen the impeachment talk. Take an entirely new level. We we'd seen this go to a a level that that I did not think that Speaker Pelosi would actually reach reach this level and so this actually goes to a phrase that I like to use the Democrats have officially crossed the Rubicon if you don't know it crossing the Rubicon is that is when Julius Caesar crossed the River Rubicon in ancient Rome essentially declaring a civil war during a in the Roman Empire and eventually Julius Caesar one that civil war so that's essentially what crossing the Rubicon means. You're gonNA hear that phrase a lot of times James in the media in the coming days but essentially it's the phrase where there is no going back. The Democrats think that now president trump must be impeached. What he has done is unforgivable? Well there is no turning back and so let's just lay out the facts of what the Democrats are claiming. the Democrats are claiming that number one that president trump withheld military aid aid to Ukraine until Ukrainian President Vladimir Zilenski think I'm pronouncing that correct. I think that's good enough for the show investigated former Vice President Biden and his son hunter. This is totally false sense. Essentially the original accusation that the Democrats were claiming is that president the trump was going to withhold military aid funding to Ukraine a if essentially he was going to withhold it unless that's the probably the proper way to word it unless unless Ukraine went and investigated Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden this is categorically false and incorrect and we'll get to that in just a the second number two the Democrats are also claiming that president trump has used his office to gain foreign assistance to smear a political arrival but look president trump was actually referring to election interference in the two thousand sixteen election by Ukraine but we'll get we'll really dive into that in just a second present from did reference. It's an investigation into Biden son hunter over the former vice presidents well documented quid pro quo deal with the leadership of Ukraine where he threatened to withhold over billion dollars in aid unless they fired a prosecutor who investigating a company was paying Hunter Biden fifty thousand dollars a month. Look we're GonNa go that whole transcript and some of the lies and some of the truth around the transcript and how we got there and what that really means and what does it mean for two thousand twenty and will the president actually be impeached and so look. Let's let's review all of this and especially something that everyone is missing but before we do. I have to talk about something then. I'm deeply passionate about being a business owner being an entrepreneur. 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That's what's the world's number one cloud business system and right now nets we'd is offering you valuable insights with a free guide seven strategies to grow your profits at net sweet dot com slash. KIRK DOC THAT'S K. I R. K. That's net sweet dot com slash kirk download your free guide seven key strategies to grow your profits at nets dot com slash kirk so here's how this all went down and I'm sure all of you have been watching cable television or going on twitter and you're seeing the hysteria from the Democrats that president the trump is some form of mob boss that President Trump deserves to be impeached now mind you the the Democrats have been calling for his impeachment since before he got inaugurated rated in fact Mark Levin actually talked about the first whispers of impeachment were as early as the two thousand sixteen campaign that the Democrats were saying well if he wins. We'll impeach him anyway and so this is nothing new so let's go through the timeline of just the fact. Some of this was taken from business. Insider did a wonderful job of how we got got here. I think it's extremely important to take a step back to calm down the hysteria and just look at the facts rationally. That's what we like to do here at the Charlie Kirk. Show in a July twenty fifth phone call which is very interesting. It's right near the time that President Donald Trump spoke at our turning point. USA Teenage Student Action Summit so I just got to say all this was Kinda on a happening around the same time of him speaking to are thousands and thousands of teenagers in Washington. DC right during the same window a time and for those who that might be interested in getting involved a turning point USA star chapter attend one of our events be a college activist or donate you can go to Teepee USA dot com again. That's teepee. USA Dot Com on July twenty fifth phone call President Trump spoke with Ukrainian President Vlodimir Dolinsky Apologize Ukrainian is not my first language or Russian is not my first first language who was elected in May August twelfth nearly two weeks after the call in intelligence official lodged a whistle blower complaint against president trump that centered around communications between quote him and a foreign leader who later learned was president Zilenski. The whistle blower lodged the complaint because the person was quote deeply troubled by a phone call trump had with a foreign leader and in particular a promise trump had made during the call now I want you to I want to reiterate this. Remember remember when I'm saying a promise trump made during the call a promise trump made during the call. We're going to learn that there really was no such promise made the intelligence community the Inspector General The G. Michael Atkinson who essentially overseas these whistleblower complaints determined after a preliminary review of the whistle blowers complaint that that it was credible end of quote urgent concern. We'll see about that two weeks. After receiving the complaint Atkinson submitted it to Acting Director of National Intelligence DNA Joseph Maguire federal requires the Director of National Intelligence to transmit complaints of urgent concern Congress than seven days but Maguire did not do this so why didn't he well. Here's a couple of reasons. Stephen Engle Assistant Attorney General of the Office of Legal Counsel said quote the question is whether such a complaint falls within the statutory Dettori definition of quote urgent concern that the law requires the deny afford to intelligence committees. We concluded that it does not a second reason. Is that the O. L. C. EH which is the office of Legal Counsel also ruled that the president's conversations was diplomatic communication intelligence activity regardless on September Ninth Breath Inspector General Atkinson reported the complaint to the Senate and the House intelligence committees in a letter but did not offer specific details or the substance of the complaint. Can I just pause right here. The reason that I knew that this was nothing from the very outset is that this was not leaked between July twenty fifth and when this came out through the Office of Inspector General. If there really was a credible urgent concern to take up president trump this would have been leaked out hours after president trump had the a phone call now for those that don't know when a lot of these phone calls are made between the president the United States and foreign leaders typically these phone calls have many people listening on these calls on both sides of the call people from the director of National Intelligence people from the Central Intelligence Agency and many of them mean well. They want to know what the foreign leaders are saying a lot more than even our own leader. The United States is saying sometimes foreign leaders will tip their hand sometimes they'll have inconsistencies and so these transcripts are created created and they're usually almost always marked confidential and then they're reviewed internally by the director of National Intelligence the CIA the Central Intelligence Agency to essentially try to find. There's an incongruency or any advantage that the United States can gather Garner based on what the foreign leader says some of these calls that is protocol so for those that are wondering was president trump being wiretapped. No it's actually quite typical. I should say it's actually quite normal for people that work in the intelligence community to listen to these calls when the president becomes the president elect after he won a president of the United States then president-elect. Donald trump got many briefings that hey anytime that you pick up the phone known to anyone there might be people listening and some most of the time they're listening on your behalf trying to protect you against what foreign actors might be saying they might be able to look within the intelligence community the best for the benefit of our own country however what's normal is to leak the details of those conversations or otherwise release the the transcripts and so Naro President trump was not wiretap that did happen president trump was illegally spied on by the Federal Bureau of Investigation while he was a candidate and while it was president-elect as an electronic. That's a different scandal. This is a new scandal so I just WANNA. Make sure we differentiate the two. This is not donald trump getting spied on this is donald trump getting lied on two totally different things so on September tenth tenth good old lying leaking Congressman Adam Schiff California the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee my goodness the fact that he became Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee is one of the most just disservices of power that I think I have seen in recent memory anyway. Congressman Schiff Congressman of the House Intelligence Committee requested a full. We'll unredacted copy of the complaint on September twelfth. A president trump released a military package to Ukraine military aid package to Ukraine so hard. Stop Mind you this Ukraine not Russia. Can we make this distinction because it seems as if the media is not making a very simple argument here that for two years there's actually two and a half years almost three years there are allegations that president trump was bought and paid for by the Kremlin which is the capital building of the Russian Federation that President Trump was a Russian agent. We went through two and a half to three years of investigation and Innuendo and conspiracy against the president of the United States. He was somehow pro Russian that he was aided by the Russians and he was always trying to yield towards the Russian Federation and now all of a sudden on September twelfth president trump releases a military aid package to Ukraine which is by the way the current government that was formed in Ukraine and this new president that was put empower is an anti Russian party. He ran on a couple of key things one of the things he ran on was rooting out and cleaning up corruption within the Ukrainian government and he also also ran on a harder stance against Russian aggression mostly the Russian annexation of Crimea Crimea and the Russian advances into Ukraine. There is a huge the dispute between Russia and Ukraine over the eastern parts of Ukraine people that speak Russian and people that are ethnically Russian whether or not that whose territory is it Ukraine wants Western help to be able to defend their borders so in September twelfth. President trump releases a military aid package that by the way President Putin is not happy that president trump armed Ukraine crane essentially president trump gives Ukraine sophisticated military weaponry access to Western military technology and intelligence and when you read this transcript of which I we'll get to in just a second will dive into all of it. President trump is going to infuriate president Putin based on what was said in and this transcript because being this warm fuzzy with Ukraine is basically a middle finger to the Russian Federation. Yes the same Russian Federation that President Trump was accused of colluding with incorrectly and liable Isley for three years at September thirteenth the Office of Director National Intelligence. Od He and I love all these acronyms government has way too many acronyms because there's way too much government anyway officially declined the committee's request and said Maguire was withholding the complaint late in part because it involves confidentially at potentially privileged communications by persons outside the intelligence community yeah the president and a leader of a foreign nation now mind you these types of phone calls happen dozens of times a week sometimes hundreds of times a week where the president will feel phone calls from Prime Minister Abay from Japan or from the Prime Minister of Canada on very simple things such as joint joint trade or the status of natural disasters the president of the United States as it is constitutionally written first and foremost is the commander in chief of the armed forces verses that also goes to be as chief diplomat of the United States of America so because of this we can't we can't discount that the president should the able to have these phone calls the president should be able to have these phone calls basically uninterrupted without them being leaked to foreign countries essentially meaning he represents the United States America Erica in all foreign relations. The president of the United States is the chief diplomat of our country so on September thirteenth. This is all happening very quickly. Adam shift subpoenaed the acting director National Intelligence to turn over the complaint he said the director of National Intelligence was required by law to turn over the complaint to the rational intelligence committees but refused to do so September seventeenth general counsel Jason Clinic said the mispronouncing note. I mean no offense said the agency overruled ruled the G. and determined the complaint didn't meet the definition of quote urgent concern under the law so just to take a pause here. There was a lot of dispute between the oversight site committees in the intelligence community committees over where whether this was something that actually deserved and warranted national attention because essentially you know if this gets it's the Congress and this gets marched marked urgent concern. This will become a top tier news news story on September Seventeen Atkinson wrote a letter to the intelligence committees. He's that said he and Maguire were at an impasse and quote and added that the whistleblower complaint was quote not only falls within the denies jurisdiction but relates to one of the most significant and important denies responsibilities to the American people and September nineteenth the inspector general of the intelligence community in a closed door briefing testified right before the House Intelligence Committee this brewing up behind the scenes and it kind of all came to a volcanic splash on September Nineteenth September twentieth that evening when Rudy Giuliani got into a shouting match with CNN's Chris Cuomo over whether he asked Ukraine to investigate former vice president Joe Biden the front runner. All maybe not the a front runner anymore. We'll get into that and just a second. I'll tell you for the two thousand twenty Democrat presidential nomination. Let's play that clip of the shouting match between Rudy Giuliani and Chris Cuomo. Let me finish go ahead and don't try to interrupt because you don't like the answer. I don't WanNa distort what I'm saying. I don't WanNA totally biased biased. I'm not biased. Why would I have you. We're bias knowing this kind of conversation because it is sad to watch what happened to you. It said sad were toys. What happened to make your cell you telling me that I'm assuming these crimes of major proportions and because Democrats you won't cover it a one one point five million dollar investment by China in Biden's private equity fund and the partners not saying things happen and we looked at why Bolger's injures nephew. Do you know that they were partners with Whitey Bolger nephew. I'm not saying that you're saying shouldn't be corrupt. Media would would cover it because he's a Democrat Rudy. I can't just cover something because you say I should a right. That's no way to tell you real the book you who my whole lifetime time stood up for one cent when you were at your best which was carried out in leadership standing up for two systems of justice system uh-huh involved in bribery. Joe Biden Son can get one point five billion dollars from China and you will cover it and you want to cover some ridiculous charge charge that I urge the Ukrainian government to investigate corruption well I did and I'm proud of it so kind of confusing exchange but after the interview Giuliani tweeted had a president telling it president-elect of a well known corrupt country he'd better investigate corruption that affects the United States is doing his job. Maybe if Obama did did that. The Biden family wouldn't have built millions from Ukraine and billions from China being covered up by a corrupt media Amen Mayor Giuliani you are in American hero. The Post reported at the military aid package trump released was not discussed the July call according to a source familiar with the contents of the exchange on on September twenty second president trump acknowledged. He spoke this Alinsky about Biden and his son in July phone. Call President Trump told reporters the conversation. I had was largely congratulatory which is true. It was largely corruption all the corruption taking place. It was largely the fact that we don't want our people like Vice President Biden Masan contributing to the corruption already in Ukraine. I Ukraine on September twenty fourth announced. He planned on releasing the transcript of his Kaletsky. The next day which we have right here on the Charlie Kirk Show yesterday September number twenty fifth at ten. Am Eastern the White House released a summary of the phone call between trump and Zilenski the media world had a total and complete meltdown at four PM on September twenty fifth president released the entire whistleblower complaint to Congress at Chuck Schumer's request okay so now you understand how we got here right totally wrong. You're wrong will unpacked unpacked that in just a moment but first a very important message every day. President trump is facing unprecedented obstruction harassment from the liberal mob and they're fake news allies. He's been exonerated twice and they're still calling for his impeachment because they know Congress is their last hope he needs your support now more than ever text. Charlie two eight eight zero two two and receive official tremblers directly to your phone. 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I've been kind of biting my tongue going through this entire timeline and my team at the Charlie Kirk show thought it was imperative that we go through everything that we know through a consecutive time line and now we're GonNa get to some analysis because I think it is completely -pletely and totally outrageous what this president has to go through at the hands of the deconstructionist's Democrats but let's go through a couple more facts right now because we're not there yet so that was just the preview of what's to come okay at ten. Am on Wednesday morning president trump releases the transcript of his call with the president of Ukraine so first of all the United States should not have to do this. I think it sets a bad precedent. I'm always on the side of more transparency. I really am but this this might harm diplomacy with President Putin how much I bet a dime on a dollar. I would almost guarantee that when this transcript got released President Putin picked up the phone to president trump and said wait a second. You're asking me to collaborate on the destruction of Isis or you're asking me to go up against China. Now you're going up against my biggest irritant. Ukraine Ukraine President Putin is wrong on Ukraine Lucia Denver. Try to overly cater to him however sometimes there's very complex geopolitical negotiations that are going on that can be uprooted and can be totally destabilized because of a political attack drab. The president trump was essentially put a corner. He was given no choice but to release this transcript and look this also goes to show that the deep state is real. Did you know the whistleblower didn't even listen in on the call. So how did he or she find out about. Also this individual has been determined to be partisan translation anti-trump. I have a question why aren't there any whistleblowers with brock. Obama was every phone call that President Obama had during his presidency perfect with every phone call that President Obama was negotiating sending one hundred fifty billion dollars to Iran where there are no promises this is there no quid pro quo when President Obama sent his own campaign team to campaign against Bibi Netanyahu in Israel. Were there any phone calls. That might have been deemed questionable of course there were of course there were when you make thousands and thousands of phone calls and you have hundreds of thousands of minutes on the phone with foreign leaders. There's going to be some things that are questionable however there is executive privilege and that you have to give the president of the United States capacity and the ability to negotiate diplomacy. That's why we the people put that President in office. Now Mind you the the Congress right now by trying to impeach the president we'll get to that in a second of what they're saying and why they're saying they are not trying to do their congressional oversight. They are trying to over. Turn the election results. They're trying to overturn the mandate of pudding a president empower via Eh Democratic Process Under Constitutional Republic Framework so according to The Washington Times quote the Inspector General concluded that the whistle blower showed political oh by it so don't take my word for it regardless. The transcript is completely benign. I've read this thing six times already. It's basically president trump congratulating president Zilenski on winning the parliamentary elections in Ukraine they talk about draining the swamp they exchanged compliments. President Zilenski stating his commitment and corruption and that kind of led to confirm reports of Ukraine meddling in our elections to assist Hillary Clinton just so you know there are reports that members of the Democrat National Committee and members of the Clinton campaign were back channeling and yes colluding. That's right colluding with Ukrainian government. This is where trump asks for the widely reported favor trump asks a foreign leader for a favor to keep an eye on his country's meddling in the United States elections. That's right the the President United States our president ask for a favor not to look into Joe Biden but instead to prevent foreign meddling into our elections. Do you remember when the the Democrats used to actually support. This trump is asking President Zilenski to help it helps insulate our elections from their essentially previous Ukrainian Iranian efforts into our elections. Democrats used the support this everyone should support this and I am looking at an embargoed copy of the cover of the New York Times Today on Thursday September twenty six. The front page says trump asked for favor in call memo shows to okay. Let's pretend you're suburban. Berman mom in battleground state Wisconsin and you get the New York Times delivered to you today and you read that and you re trump asked for favor in uncalled memo shows. What kind of impression does that give of president trump. Does that give a favorable or an unfavorable impression of president then trump. Does it make it seem as if he's acting ethically or unethically of course it makes him look unfavourable but it's also unbelievably misleading the favor favor that president trump asked for the favor that he asked for was to try to prevent Ukraine from meddling into our elections. Let's let's read directly from the transcript. So president trump says the following. I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows about it I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine. They say crowd strike. Okay so that's it. That's the favor so president and trump asked for a favor to help benefit. The United States of America President Trump does not ask for a favor to investigate Joe Biden president trump. Does I'm not asking for a favor to investigate Hunter Biden however there's plenty to investigate there. There is no pressure. There's no quid pro quo and so one of my favorite tweets. It's from this rocket scientist. Eric Swallow who dropped out from the from the presidential race now when he hosted his big rally in Virginia he had eight people show up eight people show up so this guy's really leading a grassroots revolution that all of us should really be afraid of so Eric Swale well tweeted out he said Uh. I can't imagine what his phone calls with. President Putin must be like yeah his phone calls with President Putin based on this phone call or probably much more adversarial than you might imagine in Congressman Swale well because president trump is alinsky seemed to have a very good report with each other. That's right the anti Russian anti Putin regime gene called Ukraine under President Zilenski. There was nothing illegal. There was nothing inappropriate at all in the call but the left I I have to tell you. The left has exploded nevertheless so let's look at the evolution of the reporting this has been watching like a sick repeat the Russia hoax but on fast forward so step one you had I that the president was going to withhold funds and demanded an investigation which was totally false. I play clip. The Wall Street Journal had the first report quote president trump in July phone. Call report repeatedly pressured the President of Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden's. The Sun urging Ukraine's leader about eight times to work with Rudy Giuliani on a probe that could hamper Mr Trump's potential twenty twenty opponent. This is wrong. This is nowhere in the transcript released on Wednesday in fact. Let's play a clip. Ukrainian president saying this wasn't the case no we had. I seen gene good phone. Call to US normal. We spoke about managing and so I think and you are at what is that nobody push it. Bush me the president has cited corruption concerns as the reason to withhold funds from Ukraine as well as the desire for other European Union countries to contribute more but ultimately released those funds at the urging of other Republicans in defiance of Vladimir Putin step two then then you heard that president trump mentioned eight times the Biden and the Biden investigation and pressure play clip the admission came after the Wall Street Journal and other news outlets. Let's reported that trump repeatedly pressed the Ukrainian leader to investigate the business dealings of the former vice president son hunter. The jaren all puts that number at eight times Rupert Murdoch's Wall Street Journal meekest says that eight times eight times the president of the United States state's got on the phone and it's a Wall Street Journal said specifically pressured the leader of Ukraine to deal with his personal lawyer all your to dig up dirt on a Joe Biden and his family. This is also wrong. This is a lie. He barely mentioned by three sometimes not eight. Let's play the clip that said that they was focused on a quid pro quo chairman shift. Do you want to respond to what you just heard the president saying he talked about out how Biden had done something wrong and there was no quid pro quo and not conversation well. If that's the case then what isn't the prison simply release the transcript of that call and I don't know whether whistleblower complaint on this allegation but if it is and even if it isn't why doesn't the president just say release the whistle blower complaint. This is also wrong on. There's absolutely we know quid pro quo. What does a quid pro. Quo Sound like or look like it's not what trump did. It's went Joe Biden. Did we'll get to that in just a minute this from the Washington Times quote President Trump did not explicitly pressure the president of Ukraine for an investigation of Democrat Front runner Joseph R Biden and and his son in exchange for promised. US military aid according to a government transcript released Wednesday an account that the president said Rex Democrats push for impeachment even after he girded for a long fight so let's play clip right now of Speaker Pelosi calling for an impeachment inquiry before even reading in the transcript play clip the actions taken to date by the president have seriously violated the constitution especially when the President says article two says I can do whatever I want for the past several months we have been investigating in our committees and litigating in the courts courts so the house can gather all relevant facts and consider whether to exercise its for Article One powers including a constitutional power power of the utmost gravity approval of articles of impeachment and this week the president has admitted to asking the president of Ukraine occur to take actions which would benefit him politically the action of the truck. The actions of the trump presidency revealed dishonorable fact of the president's the trail of his oath of office betrayal of our national security and betrayal of the integrity of our elections therefore today. I'm I'm announcing the House of Representatives moving forward with an official impeachment inquiry. I'm directing are six committees to proceed with their investigations under that umbrella la impeachment inquiry. The president must be held accountable. No one is above the law. How is this any different than what's been going on for the last three seriously. It's not just political theater and the fact that they moved to do so before the transcript was even released proves it. They had what they wanted to happen before they even even knew the facts this policy both gas lighting and kowtowing to her radical liberal base led by Alexandria. 'cause you. Cortez ianna Presley Ilan Omar and Rashida Toledo otherwise known as the squad in fact look at the timing of the announcement on Saturday Alexandria. Qazi Cortez says on twitter quote at this point the bigger national scandal isn't the presence lawbreaking behavior is the Democrat Party's refusal to impeach him for it. Thank you Speaker Cortez. You are running the party then by Tuesday. Eh just three days later Pelosi launch an impeachment investigation just enough to quell her liberal base but not enough to put any red district. Democrats at risk of an upper down vote on impeachment richman trump for now but it's coming and with Republican Senate led by Mitch McConnell removal from office is guaranteed not to happen so I tweeted the following at Charlie Kirk eleven quote. Democrats know that trump won't be removed from office. So why are they pursuing a toothless impeachment well representative Alan Green. WHO's definitely not the rocket scientists of this Congress said quote. If we don't impeach him he'll get reelected end quote this election interference the very same interference. Democrats have been fighting for the last three years another theory floating around today was articulated Congressman Dan Crenshaw. He said this this impeachment inquiries seems worse for Biden than it is for trump now that hunter Biden Ukraine issues on everyone's radar and we know that Democrats overstep with their quid pro quo accusation have to wonder whether they did this is to help Warren Slash Sanders question mark and my favorite thinking Emoji. Thank you congressman crenshaw for drawing inspiration. From how do my twitter that is a compliment to me anyway whether or not the Democrat National Committee is working to undermine Vice President Biden represented. A crenshaw is correct that finally by new cranes on everyone's radar. I actually think it is two pronged. I think I think that the Democrat Party is sick. Joe Biden they are going to try to center the attacks and the focus from Republicans towards Joe Biden last week before any the story story had developed. I went on Martha Maccallum show and predicted this. This would result in far more negative coverage for Joe Biden than for president trump. I hate to say I told you so but play clip so look. I think the the boomerang out of this whole story is all of a sudden now. We're talking about Joe Biden's international corruption whether it be the fact that even you Robert will admit this is a little shady that all all of a sudden finish on my talk uninterrupted walk uninterrupted so let me finish has had that Joe Joe Biden his son Board Air Force to to fly to China and two weeks later hundred secures a billion and eventually billion and a half dollar investment from a company that is connected to the Chinese Communist Party and their affiliated affiliated-banks. What what what happened on that plane wiesner investigation into that there is a pattern of behavior that working class. Joe has his family and the people close to him able secure favourable treatment to companies that are close to countries that he's dealing with and I told you so. Let's just go through the facts president. Joe Biden is one of the most corrupt erupt one of the most unethical politicians in American history. He goes around parading as if he's main street middle class Joe and he's anything but the sort. Let's just go through a couple facts of the corruption surrounding former Vice President Joe Biden. Did you know that two thousand sixteen the vice president threatened to withhold one billion dollars in US loan guarantees to Ukraine if the government did not fire the country's top prosecutor Victor Shokhin. This guy was not exactly a good guy but nevertheless Joe Biden threatened to withhold aid if he didn't look into his son according to New York Times quote among those who had a stake in the outcome was who hunter Biden who at the time was on the board of an energy company owned by Ukrainian oligarch who had been in the sights of the fired prosecutor general end quote it is clear that Biden Brag about getting him fired you might say Charlie. That's a little far. He didn't beat in Brag a really. Let's play the clip I went over. I Guess Twelfth Thirteenth Time to keep and and I was supposed to announce that there's another billion dollar loan guarantee and I had gotten a commitment from Port Shaneco and from Yatsen Yup did they would take action against the state prosecutor and they didn't so they said they had they walk out depressed. I said I'M NOT GONNA. We're not gonNA give giving billion dollars a said. You have no authority. You're not the president. The president said I call him. I said I'm telling you not get billion dollars. I said so. You're not getting a billion. I'm we'll be leaving here. I think it was what six hours I look. I leaving six hours. If the prosecutors not fired you're not getting the money well son of. They fired put in place someone who was solid. Did you hear that I looked at them and said on leaving in six hours if the prosecutor cuter is not fired. You're not getting the money well son about. Did he got fired. Do you know what that is. There's a there's a phrase for it. Mr Producer quid pro quo. I just want you to imagine for a second if president trump at a council of foreign relations meeting with sitting and he said you now well. I told them that I looked at them and I said I'm leaving this place on Air Force One in six hours and if the prosecutor is not fired. You're not getting the aid money and well son of a he got fired. You're fired. Could you imagine if President Trump said that oh my goodness the media media would be calling for impeachment but that's what they're doing right now with no evidence even though it's what Joe Biden himself did Martinez writing for The Washington Post most points out the Democrats double standard. beginning of quote almost got no attention but may CNN reported that Senator Robert Menendez who should be under a criminal conviction. That's a different segment for different time and Richard Durbin from Illinois one of the most corrupt smug smug. That's the word I have for smug politicians and Patrick J Lahey Democrat from Vermont wrote a letter to Ukraine's Prosecutor General Yury. Let's think Oh expressing concern at the closing of four investigations they said were critical to the Mueller probe in the letter they were. They implied that their support for US assistance Ukraine was at stake and I could go on and on and on what what's really happening here. Is that three Democrat senators went and asked the cranium prosecutor-general to continue to look into things that might help Bob Muller and hurt president trump so so again everything that Democrats accused Republicans and trump of they have done themselves as a Mark Thiessen ends. The piece really wonderfully says so it's okay for Democrats senators to encourage Ukraine to investigate trump but it's not okay for the president to allegedly encouraged Ukraine to investigate Hunter Biden end quote great piece Martini than I enjoy your commentary. You've been excellent lately and so let's go back in time. Let's go back on the time machine. Let's go back to the past blast from the past. How what did a Congressman Jerry Nadler. What did he have to say about impeachment. When it came to President Bill Clinton back in nineteen ninety eight there must never be a narrowly voted impeachment or an impeachment Richmond supported by one of our major political parties and opposed by the other such an impeachment will produce the divisiveness and bitterness in our politics for years to come and we'll call into question the legitimacy of political institutions what did former Vice President Biden in second place in the Democrat Field Joe Biden and soon to be loser corrupt not middle-class Elitist Joe. What did he say in one thousand nine hundred eight when it came to President Clinton impeachment as we have seen the framers worried that peaking it's just a sitting president would most likely be highly charged with partisan politics tree existing factions in listing as they said all of the animosities these particularities and influence and interest end of quote that inevitably swirl around the sitting president in history shows Mister President that they had it right from the get go they had it right and their right to worry about and what did Nancy Pelosi say. It's so the one of the benefits of not having term limits is you have these these politicians on the record of basically everything of the forty years they've been in Washington. DC and you can call them out for the clown show that they actually are what it Nancy Pelosi Sake back today. The Republican majority is not judging the President President with fairness but impeaching him with a vengeance in the investigation of the President Fundamental Principles which Americans hold dear privacy fairness checks and balances have been seriously violated and why because we are here we are here today because the Republicans in the house are paralysed with hatred of President Clinton and until the Republicans hands free themselves of this hatred. Our country will suffer now. What did they all say all three have gone on the record stating their support for impeachment. Can we expect the Democrats. mkx. Rats live up to the ideals. They set out nineteen ninety eight. Of course we're going to see them. Continue to have more Democrat. Double Standards will who wins trump and the radical all democrats now. Let's just again I hate to I hate to go and always say I told you so but back in the archives the Charlie Kirk Shropshire we pull up plenty clips of where we talk about Elizabeth Warren. Let's play it. Let let's pull up a little clip in the Charlie. Kirk Show Archives of how I talk about. Elizabeth Warren is GonNa get hot and she will soon be the front runner but what is so interesting about the rise of Elizabeth Warren and how she is be becoming red hot. She's also simultaneously cozying up to the establishment. She's she knows that unlike Bernie Sanders you cannot scream at the sky about how you need Medicare for all and then become the Democrat Party nominee that it's not just enough to have the most volunteers in the most small dollar donations that the party apparatus apparatus is something that actually matters and that if you want to have a grassroots movement that will take over the party especially in a crowded field like this when you're running against a former vice president Sir for eight eight years and was in the US Senate for over thirty. That's not just enough to have the most amount of volunteers most not a grassroots activists that you have to over enough of the party the establishment you have to over enough of the party establishment to be able to get the nomination well. A NEW QUINNIPIAC poll reaffirms our prediction to be correct. Now anything can happen. I think Pete Buddha judge still might get hot at some point. I think that there. There's there's still some question of somebody that might come into this race. I still holding out that I think Michelle Obama might enter people think I'm nuts for saying that that they also thought I was nuts for saying Elizabeth Warren was going to become the front runner so Elizabeth Warren's at twenty seven percent in this new Kunia Pack Poll Joe Biden at Twenty Five Percent Bernie Sanders Sixteen Percent Pete Buddha judge at seven percent Kamala Harris at three percent my goodness you are the Enron of this Democrat primary. You have just sunk like a leman brothers stock on the eve. You've financial crisis in my goodness Hooghly and Castro to percents Amy Klobuchar two percent Robert Francis work the fake Mexican from El Paso who shamelessly panders to Hispanics that two percent Andrew Yang who gets one thousand dollars everyone else two percent and if anyone knows please leave a comment on the Charlie Kirk show page apple podcast ever giving us five stars and pressing subscribe. Ivan urgent pressing question where did Mayor de Blasios zero percent go where where did Mayor de Blasios zero percent transferred to we are still trying to figure that out but the push for impeachment is going to help Elizabeth Warren Joe Biden is part of this scandal the more that they talk about this issue the more that they push for impeachment Joe Biden's involved in this and he will continue to seek an sink in the pulse so what to folks are most like the other well. I'll tell you what Elizabeth born at twenty seven percent and Bernie Sanders is sixteen percent. You add those two up. You are at forty three percent percent of the Democrat Party embraces radical left wing socialist ideology under the guise of Warren and sanders that is enough to secure the Democrat nomination nomination and I'll tell you more on the next edition of Charlie Kirk. Show but before we get into a an issue in a topic that I really want to talk about. Let's talk about football this last weekend. The ducks of Oregon had a huge win. They won over Stanford now. I know what you're probably saying. I know you're saying that Stanford. Isn't that good well. I guess I don't care the ducks one. It's very good good. I am going to have to kind of kind of say. I wasn't right about one thing. Usually I'm right about a lot. Usually I'm right about you know a good amount of things especially in sports but the cubs are not going to win the world series. I think that's pretty pretty clear now. I don't know if the cubs are I. Don Becomes aren't GonNa make the playoffs. This is not going to happen big disappointment appointment but it at least I haven't had to wait one hundred eight years for the cubs to win another world series so nevertheless we're. GonNa have to take that one on the Chen and with Charlie Kirk show essentially apologize on behalf of all sport predictors but if you WanNa make those kind of sports bets we all know that Ben Online dot. AG is your place to do it. The San Francisco Forty niners my Guy Jimmy Garoppolo one last week which we were so thrilled about that Georgia Notre Dame game was this is just so much fun to watch my goodness. Wisconsin just came out of nowhere Jim Harbaugh. It's got some problems in Michigan. He really has some problems. I mean they just absolutely went camp randall on them. which is the name of their studio of course this weekend? The ducks of Oregon are off so I'll be watching less football than usual. We have the Philadelphia Adelphia Eagles at Green Bay. I like Green Bay. We have the Tennessee Titans at the Falcons. I like Marcus Mariota to with an upset there. We have the redskins at the giants. I like the giants. We have the chargers at Miami. the charges are going to Miami. I I don't know they're not exactly eighteen very long on right now. Oakland raiders at the Indianapolis Colts Colt Without Andrew Luck mind you. I like the raiders the panthers at the Tack Texans. I liked the panthers the chiefs chiefs at the lions. I liked the chiefs the browns at the Ravens. I liked the browns the Patriots at the bills. I like the Patriots Buchan ears at the La Rams. I like the rams. The seahawks hawks at the Arizona cardinals. I like the sea hawks. Minnesota Vikings at the bears. Go bears bears with a huge Monday night win. That was fun to watch Jaguars at the broncos. I correct quarterback for the Jaguars like the mustache from Washington state. He's fun to watch. I like the mustache man to win Minnesota at Chicago did that one. I like Chicago and say twice go back. I'm from Chicago Cowboys. At the saints. I liked the cowboys and then we got the Bengals at steelers for Monday night football. That's GonNa be Kinda boring Monday night game nevertheless. I like the steelers to win anyway. I think I picked more than enough right. There are many where we have this whole competition going right now. You can check out the rankings PODCAST. One Sports Net DOT COM WE'RE GONNA win this thing Charlie Kirk show. We've just been handicapping. The other sports hosts just kind of making it fun making it easy just trying to make competitive but look right here right now okay. The guy's is named Gardner Minhsiu look. You can't Gardner Men's shoe. The stash from Jacksonville. You guys can't fault me for not knowing his name. That's kind of Bizarro name okay. He's a nice guy but his name's James Gardiner minhsiu anyway. If you want to get in on the action and you WANNA participate in all the sports that's happening. 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I wanted to end the show and I asked our team here at the Charlie Kirk show that we're GONNA go a little bit long this episode just because I I am so unbelievably done with cancel culture for those that don't know it cancelled culture is essentially here's the equation you are a developed individual. You did something in your past of which you are not proud of and therefore your held to an unrealistic standard in current time based on something that happened in your past when you were just fundamentally different than you are currently of course in Western civilized society you hear people say all the time boy when I was young. I was a different person Magherita that face thank goodness that used to be something that we accepted. Every person listening to this podcast has done something that they're not proud of and you grow out of that that is part of the developmental journey of becoming a better editor more fuller human being whether it be something you didn't college or high school something you said a joke you made and that's why. I actually I mean at times. It's fun to make fun of double double standard of the left but no I don't hold Justin Trudeau accountable for wearing black face. I don't think he was a racist back. Then and I don't think he's a racist. I think he did something foolish foolish and something that should be condemned but actually believe that human beings are able to be embarrassed about certain things and move on from it and so that that's not who I am today that I I don't hold those values and I don't hold those perspectives cancel culture does not believe in any of it and by the way I've been through this with people personally. It is just so sick I have been through with people that were friends and the people that were kind of in my sphere of influence that have said things that they completely and totally fundamentally regret an follows them everywhere they go and it's just so sick and by the way it only the impacts conservatives or only impacts people in the center right this one example is not necessarily a political example that I'm gonNA use but it still one that needs to be talked about and so look in Iowa a couple of weekends ago on September Fourteenth Carson King a twenty four year old Iowa State University fan took to the set of Espn College Game Day rooting for Lee Corso to pick the cyclones on Saturday. He brought a make shift sign that read Bush light supply needs to be replenished and included his van mil handle at I didn't get a coveted spot behind the game they desk and was forced to move into the secondary area but the texts started to pour in Carson and his sign made another national TV and then came the money within minutes. He reached over six hundred dollars. It was at that point. He called his parents and told them he didn't plan on using the money for beer anymore you and instead donated to the University of Iowa Family Children's Hospital so great guy by Monday afternoon word spread Bush Light Komo the two companies mentioned on the sign pledge to match whatever king was able to raise king story appeared I as a two minute segment on Scott Van Pelt popular one big thing segment Thursday evening getting a story. It's first national level the following weekend king was in New York City touring Bush headquarters and appearing on news programs like Good Morning America news CNN and Fox and friends by the end of last week king and raised over one point one million dollars thanks to corporate matches and the generosity of strangers a young man turning joke which could have potentially made kings things thousands of dollars that he pocketed and turn it into a stunning act of kindness and charity benevolence a truly American value America's the greatest contrary to exist it has to the world America's because the most generous country ever to exist and then here comes the media. The des Moines Register to be specific the register reached out to kingdom inform him that their upcoming profile of his extraordinary deed would not leave him without a blemish of course because the media has to destroy all good things. That's what they do. They ran a glowing headline me Carson king the I will alleged who's raised more than a million dollars for charity. The office is asking for beer money but towards the end of the article included this for whatever sadistic reason a routine background check of King Social Media revealed to racist jokes one comparing black mothers to guerrillas and another making light of people being killed in the Holocaust the joke tweets date back to two thousand twelve when Kim was sixteen year old high school student so let me just say I totally condemn what he said and I he does as well those are things that should not be joked about their disgusting and their despicable however when the register reached out to let king no that no good deed would go and punish twenty-four-year-old Calvin King who is a reminder just right there a million dollars for a children's Hospital got out in front of the paper deleted his tweets from sixteen and released a statement of his own. Here's just part of it and by the way he did the right thing to try to choke point the paper and got get out in front of it good for you. Calvin King and that is why I wanted to. He's already said and this is what I wanted to share with you that eight years ago. When I was a sophomore in high go I made some social media posts with my friends that quoted and referenced the show. Tosh point out by the way comedy central a mainstream show. One of those posts was brought to my attention by a member of the media today. I I'd know recollection of it. In rereading eight years later I see it was an attempt at humor that was offensive in hurtful. I'm so embarrassed and stunned to reflect on what I thought was funny. When I was sixteen years old I want to sincerely apologize. Thankfully high school kids grow up and hopefully become responsible and caring adults. I think my feelings are better summed up by post from King's three years. It was finally he moved past this. Here's a kinks three years ago until we as a people people learned that racism and hate are learned behaviors. We won't get rid of tolerance towards other is a first step. July eighth two thousand sixteen but that's not enough for Media Carson King raise over million dollars for children's chance answer charity and he's a good person. That'd be the end of the sentence period hard stop. You shouldn't be forced. I'm an actor by the name for the rest of his life. Because in high school he posted something that is regrettable able and despicable but thanks to cancel culture. We live in that will always be the case. Oh follow him everywhere. He goes however in thankfully now entertaining the mainstream that this culture is unsustainable title so everyone listen to this right now you will be targeted if you do something good and you do something great and you might said something. When you're eighth grade it does not matter these beasts the big virtuous signaling media beasts will come after you. Dave Chapelle recently put out one of the funniest stand up comedy specials in history absolutely destroying cancelled culture culture and of course the canceled of course that showing cancel culture was rated horribly by the elites and read it wonderfully by the people that actually followed by the away this reporter has been found out actually have a racist past of his own and so the reporter goes after Carson King and says Oh he is a racist past and now the reporter has a racist past by the way like every other week. There's a New York Times editor that has racist tweets and they say I have found tweets my past and I apologize for them and guess what that doesn't follow them. It doesn't follow them at the New York Times. They're able to do whatever they want. Keep their jobs. Well I will governor Kim Reynolds. Just today declared that September twenty eight thousand nineteen would now be known as Carson King Dan Iowa good for you governor Governor Reynolds. Some stories do have happy endings despite the left and by the way this guy. This reporter used the N. Word on twitter at the Des Moines Register. I don't know if he'll be fired or what if he had been fired. I don't think he should be fired if he's actually remorseful for it. You WanNa talk about poetic justice. You WanNa talk about an ironic ending. That is one way to go. Oh full circle cancelled. Culture is virtue signal every person listening podcast. You will be targeted so before you're famous before you something good. Please delete everything everything you've ever done and and don't think it's a joke because you're not gonna be able to get away with it if you're Valedictorian. If you want to go to a good college if you want to achieve excellence you want to give money to charity. You'll get targeted near demons in this world world that will come after you and hunt you down. Be Very careful. What you say and be even more careful. Make sure you scrub every single asset that you have of anything that you might disagree with or anything anything you might regret. There is no more penance. There is no reconciliation. There is no more forgiveness these Christian virtues as our country becomes more secular all of a sudden we now believe in public lynching lynching a people's character in real time it is despicable and it must stop and I'm so sick because now now people are going to be less likely to do good things carson king a million dollars to a children's Children's hospital. All of a sudden becomes a villain with an abstract on something he doesn't believe in his past and he wasn't even allowed the opportunity to show that he grew past it so that brings us to the end of today's show. Oh currently there are one hundred ninety nine House Democrats backing impeachment investigation a headline on CNN that I'm watching right now. Seen and source says trump does not want to be impeached impeached while that breaking news and that that's that's CNN for you anyway. Look this is GonNa be a developing story. We're GONNA be following it very closely here on the Charlie Kirk show to put put it in summation the Democrats hate Donald Trump much more than they love America. This president has delivered unbelievable results and success for our country over black unemployment. Lois over Hispanic unemployment lowest ever ever Asian unemployment lois ever black poverty rate the economy is booming are countries coming together in a way it never has before our military's rebuilt. Rana's finally put in check. Israel is our our greatest ally in the Middle East and they have been shown great respect the Golan Heights recognize the Palestinian Authority funded the embassy moved to Jerusalem this will all be a Ukrainian and nothingburger if you will and I just think I think that all of us have to continue to hold all these things with a very very big pound of salt as they happen in real time the the United States might be impeached and House representatives that does not mean that he'll be removed from office and I think if the impeachment will end up being a very very big positive and by positive I mean for the the president's reelection prospects but a negative for the country will for those that want to get involved with turning-point. USA please go to Teepee USA. Dot Com press donate get engaged and get involved. We have a new website turning-point. USA THAT'S TEEPEE USA DOT COM check out one of our events. We love to have you there and please support our sponsors and right now. 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Weekly Update --- Why is the Biden Administration Pushing Ukraine to Attack Russia?
"The hello everybody and thank you for tuning into the report. Why is the biden administration pushing ukraine to attack russia on march twenty. Four th ukraine's president vladimir zilenski sign what was essentially a declaration of war on russia in the document titled presidential decree number one one seven two thousand twenty one the us back. Ukrainian leader declared that it is the official policy of ukraine to take back crime. Mia from russia the declaration that ukraine would take back crimea from russia also followed and was. Perhaps it's too gated by president. Biden's inflammatory and foolish statement that crimea is ukraine. Us secretary of state anthony blinken who was a chief architect of the us back. Coup against ukraine in two thousand fourteen continued egging on the ukrainians promising support for the territorial integrity of ukraine. Many americans wonder why they are not even half as concerned about the territorial integrity of the united states. Not to be outdone at the beginning of this month. Us defense secretary. Lloyd austin who previously served on the board of missile making raytheon called his counterpart in ukraine and promised unwavering. us support for ukraine's sovereignty as a us considers crimea to be cranium territory. This is clearly a clear. Green light for kids to take military action. Washington is also sending in weapons. Some three hundred tons of new weapons have arrived in the past weeks and more is on the way as could be expected. Moscow has responded to the list skis decree and to the increasingly bellicose rhetoric in kiev and washington by repositioning troops and other military assets closer to its border with ukraine. Does anyone doubt that if the us we're in the same situation for example. If china installed a hostile and aggressive government in mexico the pentagon might move troops in a similar fashion but according to the media branch or the us military industrial congressional media complex russian troop movements are not a response to clear threats from a neighbor but instead are just more russian aggression the unhinged us experts behind the 2014 coup against the elected. Ukrainian president are back in power and they are determined to finish the job even if it means world war. Three d. explicit. Us backing of ukraine's military ambitions in the region or a blank check to kiev. But it is a check that kid would be wise to avoid cashing back in one thousand nine hundred fifty six. The us government pump endless propaganda into hungary. Promising military backing for an uprising. Against soviet occupiers. When the hungarians believing washington's lies did rise up they found themselves all alone and facing soviet retaliation despite the cruel. us propaganda at least eisenhower was wise enough to realize that. No one would benefit from a nuclear war over budapest. Why is it any of our business. Whether crimea is part of ukraine or part of russia. Why is it any of our business. If the russian speaking population of eastern ukraine prefer being a line with russia. Why for that matter are unproven allegations of russian meddling in our elections a violation of the rules based international order an actual us back coup against an elected. Ukrainian government is not. We are seeing foreign policy made by raytheon and the us military contractors feckless us foreign policy experts believe their own propaganda about russia and are on the verge of taking us to war over it. It seems as if americans are sleepwalking. Through this dangerous minefield. Let us hope they soon wake up before we're all blown up. Thanks for listening.
Boeing fires CEO Dennis Muilenburg.
"Coming up on five minute news Syrian air defense intercepts missiles from Israel. Emails show you create blocked soon after trump. Cole with Zilenski and Boeing Fire. CEO Dennis Muhlenberg after fallout from seven. Thirty seven crisis. It's Monday December. Twenty three I'm Anthony Davis SYRIAN ARMY'S FM system intercepted missiles coming from the direction of Israel that were aimed targets on the outskirts of the Syrian capital state. Media said on Sunday four cruise missiles were believed to have been launched across the coast through Lebanese. Airspace towards Syria said a source in and the regional alliance supporting Syrian president. Bashar Al Assad late to the army said had brought down one of the missiles in an area near the capital. It gave no no further details and there was no immediate comment from Israel. Israel is launched hundreds of missiles toward Syria in recent years targeting Iranian backed to militias operating in the country as well as supplies sent by pro-iranian Lebanese Hezbollah to support assads forces Iran and Hezbollah are fighting on the side of president. Bashar al-Assad in the Syrian war and Israel said they are trying to turn Syria into a new front against his rallies. Israel has vowed it will continue it strikes against Iranian targets trying to establish a permanent military presence there and against I advanced weapon shipments to has belonged as Republicans and Democrats. Continue to squabble. On the terms of trump's impeachment trial in the Senate newly released government emails show it took only about nineteen minutes after Donald Trump's infamous July telephone call to Ukrainian President Vladimir Zilenski for White House officials to order the Pentagon to freeze military funding for Ukraine. The correspondence published by the Center for public. Integrity appears to show that trump appointees acted quickly after the coal behind the scenes to block the Ukrainian aid. The emails appear to confirm that the aid was held up soon after trump pressured zilenski on the coal to do us a a favor though. That request prompted an American whistle blower who her details about the coal to complain. which in September triggered the entire impeachment inquiry worried intelligence experts assessed that the president was pressing a foreign leader to investigate trump's? US political rivals there colds from prominent Democratic senators for the author of the report emails. Mike Duffy Associate Director for national security programs at the Office of budget management to testify in the Senate during trump's expected impeachment trial next year house. Democrats and Senate Republicans of this week in a standoff handoff over terms for the next steps of the impeachment process the July email from Duffy to Pentagon officials said based on guidance. 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All Roads Lead to Ukraine
"Thank you for listening to this. podcast one production available on Apple. PODCASTS and podcasts one today on the Charlie Kirk show we explain explain. The new bombshell revelation about Hunter Biden a we explore the new story around embassador. Gordon Sunland is Adam Shift really a Hollywood crime writer. And what does that have to do with the current impeachment hysteria and finally new twenty twenty polls her out and guess what good news for a guy who's not a Marxist. I'll let you figure that one out but before we go any further. Please subscribe to the Charlie Kirk. Show give us a five star rating. Get a friend to do the same simply type in the Charlie Kirk show to your apple podcast APP wherever you are listening right now. It's your podcast provider typing the Charlie Kirk show so buckle up this is Charlie Kirk host of the Charlie Kirk. Show your home. A conservative libertarian. Rational thinking here. We go generally what you've incredible here. Maybe Charlie Kirk on the college campus. I want you to know. We are lucky to have Charlie Charlie kirks running the White House folks. I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy his spirit his love of this country's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organisations ever created turning point. USA Soule not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries destroyed lives and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. That's why we are we're here. What's up everybody? Welcome to this edition of Charlie Kirk. Show what a day in news. I've been in meetings here at turning point. USA and I can just guess that some of view have also had a very long days are wondering what the heck is going on. There's a lot of confusing story lines because you have the Democrats that are so committed to pushing dishonesty dishonesty about this president that are participating in a pre meditated impeachment. And what do I mean by that. Just we covered this on a previous episode of the Charlie Kirk Show. The impeachment impeachment of Donald Trump began nineteen minutes after he got inaugurated he puts his hand up and he says so. Help me God. I will fully execute the duties of the president of the United States. That beautiful the moment I was there right up front row they blow. The canons starts raining. Franklin Graham comes and gives the closing prayer and what was the Washington Post doing while that ceremony was going on. What was the Washington Post and the deep state Democrats? What were they doing while we were putting a new commander in chief President United States? They were copy editing and making sure their op ED with perfectly thickly placed to try to keep a United States. What was the exact headline of that piece? It was the case for Donald. Trump's impeachment has officially begun something something. I'm paraphrasing something along those nineteen minutes after this president gets inaugurated so right now the Democrats doing everything it possibly can to usurp and trying to destabilize the present United States and they're doing it for a lot of they're doing it for very specific reasons we'll get into that in the show Mostly political almost all political because the president is actually doing a lot better in battleground polling. Data that's coming out than they would ever imagine. But kind of the crux of this entire issue. The backbone of this entire thing is Ukraine crane. I I just have to say this and we had this kind of a pre show meeting. What is everyone's obsession with Ukraine? I mean it's kind of like modern day Rome. All roads lead to Ukraine. I mean this country tree is I have some really Nice Ukrainian friends. I have some great people I went to high school with. What does everyone's obsession with this country? It's Nancy Pelosi has lobbyists that you know very are involved. In Ukraine. Adam Schiff visits Ukraine. All the time. I what is everyone's obsession with eastern Bulgaria. We just like Lithuania. Estonia is always Ukraine. A crane and there is an answer to that. It's actually country really well known for corruption Ukraine in the Post Soviet a world order that was created unfortunately a lot of the bad guys that used to kind of rule the roost in the Soviet Union seemed l.. Concentrate to Ukraine especially those that kind of disagreed with the creation of the Russian Federation. And they've I've been having a problem with corruption for a long time here and so there's a huge new bombshell. That came out massive bombshell that came out against who against Hunter Biden Hunter Biden and Ukraine are critical understanding impeachment. Push to try to get rid of Donald. Trump is the United States. I it's fundamental if you do not understand why Ukraine is involved here you you cannot actually understand why they're trying to impeach the President United States. Not just why. But how. They're trying to impeach. The president added States and behind and John Solomon our great friend who was formerly at at the hill as you new bombshell revelation. And you do not want to miss this. This is something that basically shows that the Democrats Joe Biden have been lying this entire time. This is evidence evidence to show that the Democrats are in such deep trouble. But right now I'm looking at Mr Producer. And he has his been chair watch on. He's smiling he's showing me his Ventura or watch. He's taking it off. I have not seen him smile. Like this sense. The Los Angeles dodgers made the playoffs and inevitably lost in the playoffs. Like he's really smiling and it's because Ventura watches look. I'm going to show you the watch for those youtube listeners. 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So Jon Solomon the Great John Salman. This guy has been ahead of the curve on everything I've worked with John Before. John's is terrific. I in fact I want to have John on our podcast. Let's make a note about jaundice. Such a great job and so he came out with this report so look corrupt hunter okay. Corrupt Hunter Biden who of courses the son of a former vice president Joe Biden basically. When his dad became vice president? He started to lick chops. And now's a great time for me to go get a bunch of money that I'm totally unqualified qualify for in places. I've never visited industries. I have no idea anything about and so basically the entire conversation around the impeachment of Donald Trump centers around this phone. Call the phone. Call that we've talked about many different times president. Donald Trump has this phone call with President. Vladimir's alinsky actually get. I know his name by now by the way the the fact that I know his name without having to look it up shows ridiculous. Entire impeachment thing. It's not that I don't care about presidents Alinsky but it just shows the over emphasis on this country called Ukraine. It's too much. It's just overdone. Okay so Ukraine is critical to all this and essentially the reason being is not not just Ukraine is a country country that Vladimir Putin the leader of the Russian Federation wants to take over because he believes particularly Crimea. which to make the argument that some would make is that Crimea has a lot of people that are ethnically Russian and they speak Russian? It's been a conflict for a long time. I do think that the West is a proper role to stand up against the advancements of the Russian Federation and and Vladimir Putin's goals try to recreate the Soviet Union however unsuccessfully. He's he's been able to do that. but Ukraine is critical for writing for reasons. Gop Geopolitical so on and so forth but the over emphasis on it is is far overdone and so president trump takes the phone call with President Vladimir Zilenski and talks. About first and foremost he talks about congratulating him on his victory Vladimir's Alinsky then goes back to president trump. And says thank you so much we ran in a message similar to yours. You compliments the president on that and they talked about corruption and they talk about how macron and Merckel in Europe have not been really standing up to Vladimir Putin at all and then they go into this whole idea. Run Rudy Giuliani and this has been the center of the entire fight but in that phone call in corruption was first brought up by president. Vladimir Dolinsky of Ukraine was the talk about Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden. And I just have to give Credit A to Schweitzer. Peter Schweitzer out there who originally uncovered this amazing ridiculous payment that Hunter Biden got from Barista. I think they're up to fifty thousand or eighty thousand dollars a month. How much was it? Eighty thousand eighty three thousand dollars a month. That's an extraordinary amount of money for a lot for a baseball player to make. Okay let alone a guy that doesn't speak the language a guy that's barely ever visited that regional country who I don't WanNa say he was dishonorably discharged from the military but he was dishonorable he was dishonorably. Discharged for doing cocaine is that is that what you're okay. So he was doing cocaine and which is not a good thing. He abandoned rental car and Arizona with a crack pipe in it. Could you imagine don Jr. was abandoned a car rental car with a crack pipe in I mean they would never let the sky. Didn't have let let let it let it down. So Joe Biden becomes vice president and hunter gets really excited because he knows he gets to make a lot of money okay so anyway. There was a lot of conversation and chatter around corruption behind this company. Barista that Hunter Biden was sitting on so hunter Biden against a lot of the ethic suggestions of many people in the Obama White House. Because I believe there was actually a paper that was issued. That job Hunter Biden should not do this. He did it anyway and so he sits eighty thousand dollars and Barista accompany. That's that's a natural. Gas Company is under investigation by the Ukrainian prosecutor. Now the Ukrainian prosecutors so important to remember here and please bear with me because it's actually critical because this is what president. President trump was originally complaining about because we now have video and audio of Vice President Joe Biden while at the counselor foreign relations bragging about how when he used to be vice president president. He demanded that this very prosecutor who was looking into his sons. The company is sunset on the board of demand that he got fired. But it's a step further and this is the report that John on Solomon has come out with new reporting from John Solomon proves to be damning to Joe Biden file phony nothing to see here narrative on his sons corrupt business dealings in Ukraine put simply a month before Joe Biden wants Ukraine threatened to withhold. US aid if the prosecutor overseeing the BARISTA corruption case wasn't fired remember Barista is the company any that Hunter Biden sat on and got eighty thousand dollars a month. A policeman lobbyist US hunter. Biden's name as the reason the Obama by State Department should get involved in the Barista Barista corruption case. Let's just pause right here. Play tape of Joe Biden bragging about getting the prosecutor fired in Ukraine. You've probably heard this before. But repetition at the Silla memory. If you haven't heard it it's pretty telling stuff and I went over the twelfth thirteenth time to Keven Event and I was supposed to announce that there's another billion dollar loan guarantee and I had gotten a commitment from Port Shaneco and from breath Yatsen. Yup that they would take action against the state prosecutor and they did so. They said they had they walk out to press. And I said I'M NOT GONNA we're not going to give you the billion dollars a said you have no authority. You're not the president. The president said I said call him. I said I'm telling you not get billion dollars. I said you're not getting the billionaire. That'd be leaving here. I think it was what six hours I looked leaving six hours if the prosecutors not fired you're not getting the money well son of a bitch you put in place someone who was solid at the time okay. That was Joe Biden bragging that he was able to to get the Ukrainian prosecutor fired now the narrative that Joe Biden and the Obama White House and all of the allies in the media on the left have said is Oh of course Joe Biden. Leiden want this one or this prosecutor fired. He had a track record of corruption. There's nothing to see here but new documents show that burris SM was also lobbying to get this investigator fired at this investigator was no big deal. Then it was no big deal and just needed to be widely corrupt. Why was Barista trying to get them fired and in using the Biden? Name the do so you can reasonably conclude that Joe Biden a month before going to Ukraine. Had A conversation with his son and his son said. Hey Dad had we gotta get rid of this prosecutor this guys totally getting in my way and eventually your way and in this Barista company way. What can you do to get rid of this prosecute and you just heard the sound Joe? Joe Biden went and threatened aid to get rid of this prosecutor. Wait a second threatening aid. I think we've heard about something like this before. So Joe binded the exact thing that they are now. Accusing trump of doing even though trump did not do it and so the big hubbub over this entire impeachment Eastman investigation is allegedly and it's not true but allegedly the president if let's make the Democrats case for them so let's give them the fairness that Democrats don't actually deserve and we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA say. Hey this if the Democrats case if I were to just be very fair and I was to be a judge in front of a trial like if I were to say all right. Here's the Democrats case. President trump wanted to get rid of Joe Biden because he was gonna be the presumptive Democratic nominee. He needed to be stopped. He was a political rival in a political foe and therefore he got worried in his congratulatory call to the Ukrainian President Fighters Alinsky. He used mob like tactics and told him to investigate a political rival and by the enforcement of that was to use the eight. That's the aid. The billion in dollars in aid to Ukraine. Why are we give a billion dollars to Ukraine is beyond me but that's a totally different conversation for different time? That's the Democrats case. Now that case falls apart if we're actually able to conclude that first of all the press the United States should be looking into invest corruption should be actually trying to pursue corruption investigations. Wherever possible awesome? We have a treaty with Ukraine. That actually shows that we can share information about citizens that commit crimes in each of our own countries but part of this entire investigation. Gatien is president trump's European Union ambassador. Sunlen who's originally from Oregon Gordon Sunland. He's United States Ambassador to the European Union. 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Charlie protect your loved ones a lot of bad people out there. And you've got to do something about it simplisafe dot com slash Charlie again secure yourself. Your family simplisafe dot com slash Charlie. So there was all this uproar about Gordon Sunlen. So who is Gordon sunland inland. Well I kind of feel sorry for this guy. Seems like a nice guy he he was a big trump donor and looks for all the worst kept secret in Washington. DC and it's not even a secret but both parties participate eight in this which is big donors get ambassadorships. The big kind of running joke is. Who's going to get the ambassadorship Bermuda? or WHO's going to get the ambassadorship sue Jamaica Ambassadorship to the European Union. Probably sounded good on paper. It's kind of next to being the ambassador to the Virgin Islands doesn't have an ambassador because it's the US territory it'd be like the Ambassador Fiji it's Nice they'll take care of you but you don't want you don't want to be the ambassador like a war-torn country that's actually it's going to be like the embassador to Iraq like that would not be fun but those are career diplomats and they do a nice job now on paper it might sound good but under further inspection to actually have to deal with all these maniacs in the European Union that don't pay up and they hate America and they're all Marxists I don't know and you'd have to listen to all their nonsense all the cocktail parties about how horrible president trump is but he wanted the job it's an ambassadorship and he was confirmed by the Senate and every embassador has to be so anyway he gets this nice or not so nice job I wouldn't want it you couldn't pay me to become the ambassador to the European Union that will last about thirty five seconds before insult other governments respectfully Bexley of course in rationally but he gets tied up into like the biggest impeachment hysteria that the country has seen since Bill Clinton and it's kind of one of those things if he did not sign up for this right so now he's probably an hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal bills and I feel sorry for the guy so anyway so his lawyers gave house impeachment investigators gators AINU sworn statement in which he updates earlier testimony so sunland and we're gonna read the straight news report here said in the statement that his memory was refreshed by opening statements to other key witnesses says who have testified in the impeachment and creamy break. These these memory lapse things. I don't believe it what's really happening. Here is a little a little case of C. Y.. CYA misses a family program program. So basically I'll say he's trying to cover himself from problems. Is that a fair way to say it. We don't use that kind of graphic language here anyway specifically sunland John Lynch now he now recalls a conversation in Warsaw Poland with a top aid to the Ukrainian president which he said that the resumption of military aid would likely really not happen until Ukraine had provided a public anti-corruption statement. So that's just a bizarre thing to say because let me get this straight earlier in October sunland. Inland gave ten hours of sworn testimony where he said emphatically a text message that there was no quid. Pro Quo between the aid and corruption investigators of former vice president as an Joe Biden and his sons involvement embarrassment. There was a report that came out. And it's been unsubstantiated. Basically that said that he was going to testify that he he was told the text that that has not been substantiated at all but that report was on the front page of the drudge report for two days. That's just out there and that was a preconception it I had. I know that some of you might have have that. He says there was no quid. Pro Quo text got that. He testified in early October. This and I'm GONNA paraphrase conversation between Sunland and president trump's on Linda trump yup. What do you want from Ukraine and president trump and his testimony? I want nothing. I want no quid pro quo. I want let's get to do the right thing what he ran on which was ending corruption and for the mutual benefit of Ukraine and the United States. But now he's changing his story. The question is does it matter This is from the New York Times quote Mr Sunland said. He believed that withholding the eight eight a package of three hundred ninety one million dollars and security assistance that has been approved by Congress was quote ill advised although he did not know when why or by whom aid was suspended and quote but he said he came to believe that the aid was tied to investigations. So now he's saying I presumed that the aid suspension had been linked to the proposed anti-corruption statement and quote. Mr Sunlen said so if I have to venture a guess here Sunland is worried that someone is going to tattle on him and he's going to say that there was some conversation about corruption and he's GonNa go to the jail for false testimony basically he's trying to cover his own tail because he's worried that someone somewhere had a conversation with him out corruption and now he's trying to cover himself before that actually gets exposed. He's starting to see the amount of witnesses that are being called and he knows that this could potentially happen of it. Listen to language. He said presumed he did not know when why or by whom the aid was suspended so he basically guest Look Democrats are GonNa act like this is the beginning of the world like this. No Smoking Gun. which doesn't whole page for edition which I read from it to his original testimony basically boils down to Donlan presuming guessing? The three hundred ninety one million dollars million in military aid package was being withheld but still doesn't know who or why that might have been. Are we really going to impeach a president. Is it now because an ambassador presume. Something that he doesn't actually know about that. He guest especially when his own text messages and previous testimony said otherwise. So look look you're gonNA hear about this a lot on. CNN and Washington Post and all these websites. It's a big nothing. There's no substance to this. This is a guy that's just trying to cover himself. That might remember the conversation somewhere rows of someone who's might incriminate him and quite honestly there's nothing here at all. And by the way in order for there to be a quid pro quo. There has to be a quote and there is no evidence evidence at all that there was a quo in any of these conversations. That Ukraine knew that the age was being withheld or being leveraged on behalf of trying to investigate Joe Joe Biden or try to investigate. Joe Biden's son or anything linked to Joe Biden and kind of make one final point here. Why is the media so much more upset about president? Didn't trump trying to investigate corruption than Hunter Biden son. Actually being involved in corruption shouldn't the outrage the actual corruption itself not president trump trying to get people to actually to investigate that corruption in the first place. As I'm doing this show right now. I'm looking at this Laptop Express. 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Let's play a clip of me on the Laura Ingraham show which was about this ridiculous story from the Washington Post that Glamour by The Washington Post glamorizes terrorists and talks nicely about people who hate our guts and by the way attacks the COVINGTON Catholic kids with absolute no restraint. By the way Nick Sandman from Covington Catholic has now been allowed to have his court case the precede. An appeals court which is terrific. And let's play sound right now about this ridiculous piece from the Washington. Post the dishonest pack. Who is Adam? Schiff had this puff piece written about him in The Washington Post which wrote Nice. They wrote so nice things about Al Baghdadi what they call album dottie and austere religious scholar. I Still WanNa know who from the Washington Post wrote. Wrote that headline it was an original headline. That was fine. It was still ridiculous but it was fine. It was like Albert dotty dead. Okay then they change it to Australia discolor. Then they changed again. I WANNA WANNA know who changed it from the original to the austere religious scholar. Who the heck thinks that? He's an austere religious scholar. He was a genocidal homicidal ethnic cleansing maniac. So speaking of the Washington Post I did this segment on Lauraingraham show checkout listen to this segment I was on with a great deal. Souza who will be speaking at our turning point. USA Student Action Summit teepee the USA DOT COM SLASH SAS. Listen to this segment right now. Well look when you're writing a crime novel or crime film there's something called plotting backwards or you start with the villain you start with a crime and you work backwards. It seems like shifted this when it came to the whistle blower and it came to this entire narrative of Ukraine. He started with we want. Donald Trump to be removed removed the United States and it seems he went through whatever actions. It took to try to make that happen a meeting with a whistleblower and lying about changing the whistle blower rules which actually wouldn't have been defined signed as a whistle blower as Greg Jarrett previously mentioned. And we have to point out that the Washington Post nineteen minutes after this president was sworn in nineteen minutes after he was sworn in they said the case for impeaching Donald Trump begins. This is a premeditated impeachment and Adam Schiff boy did he. I think he might have missed his calling Hollywood. But he's still still drumming up fake fictional stories and the Nesh accurately pointed out. Not only is he making the stories he's part of this sort of intergovernmental espionage against the duly elected president so. I think the story didn't get enough. Traction it provides what I believe to be a very valuable and important insight in do Mr Schiff. As president trump calls shifty shifty the chief prosecutor of President Trump so shift represents The Twentieth District in California which is West Hollywood Burbank. Parts of Pasadena and Glendale would a miserable the world that is Mr producer disagrees. Used to live there he got out because it's not exactly the greatest place. Look it's nice weather. There's some nice people but it's not a good place don't go other so anyway. They're all leftist. They hate America not all of them but the people who write the movies there anyway so speaking of movies this ridiculous piece in The Washington Post said Adam Schiff once wanted to be a screenwriter. Green rider can you give trump the president trump presidency Hollywood ending so first of all. There's so much wrong here because Adam Schiff right now is the screenwriter. Or is he the villain of Foodie. Because I can't figure that out I think we're trying to use his Hollywood analogy and to try to extrapolate it to its further extension. He's a villain in fact she's like the goofy villain who you cheer against the entire time would be like a villain that we could compare them to. Because I don't want to give them credit for having like some sort of awesome superpower or something like so like Adam Schiff is the super super lane villain. I mean he has no superpowers. He has no anything I mean. If we were to write a movie with Adam Schiff he would just be like the dork principle okay. That's who oh he is. We found it up but think even worse. Imagine that principal had subpoena power. Okay that's who Adam Schiff is. Okay so imagine. If the principal couldn't just call unit attention he can wreck wreck your life and rack up legal bills why about you on TV. I have no sympathy for this human. Being Adam. Schiff say I very little sympathy for Adam. Schiff okay I try got to get people to bend for the doubt. This guy went on cable television. More often than a priest gives communion saying that he had verifiable proof that that donald trump colluded with the Russian government in fact he went and he said there is evidence that I have said this right. He said the word evidence that Donald trump colluded with Russia and we will soon see it. I mean I think he set the record for the most amount of cable lose hits. I mean it was unbelievable. I mean this guy was on television. Like six hundred ninety five times in the last three years. This guy also lied about not meeting with the whistle blower. He helped get the whistle blower. Rules changed changed. This guy is not a good person. Okay and I I hesitate to say that. But he is certifiable liar and said in this Washington Post. Glamorous story remember the same Washington Washington Post that said that Al Baghdadi austere religious scholar. Great Great editorial team that God of their quote when Adam Schiff was a young assistant. US Attorney living in Los Angeles. He did what everyone when does when they moved to Hollywood he wrote a script. Okay let me just stop here. The whole tone of way this has written only fifteen words into this is like this rags to riches trying to have this broad like nice appeal for Adam Schiff the humanization of the school principal. WHO has subpoena power? Not into it okay anyway he wrote a screenplay okay. They really wanted to do it. They should use the word treatment. Okay Eh wrong word of choice there. Because that's what they call it got treatment. What was he bussing tables to? Anyway he leaned on his courtroom experience thinking back of snippets of dialogue during trials as he typed the crime thriller. Give me a break. The prosecutor was a hero. Naturally he called it minute talk and if you ask shift it was pretty good. Okay that's GonNa stop right there. And here's the most honest line of the entire article in some ways. He became the chief. Storyteller of this drama field. Political shift is the head of the House Intelligence Committee and the Leader of Democrats impeachment inquiry of President Trump up. He's in charge of calling witnesses taking depositions and subpoenaing documents more than that. It's his job to stitch altogether into a believable easy to follow narrative end quote. I mean this is such nonsense. The fact that Washington Post gives credence to this first of all he's participating in the story so he's not just the storyteller but the fact that they're giving him the editorial license that it's his job job. Tell a story a fictional story at that actually gives him permission to continue to lie and Mr Producer made this phenomenal point of repeated it. It's a great point point so for most of the stories you write them chronologically. So if you're writing or rings or Harry Potter anyone with a hero's journey you start the way that you would tell a story. We begin at the start and you work your way through the ending. Now Look in crime writing though which is shifts chosen genre. You actually start at the end so mysteries and crime you do. It's call backwards. Plotting you start with the ultimate revelation or the WHO done it and you work your way backwards. So here's how decide who did it. Why and how you plan your twist late Red Herrings and scattered your clues? This is probably his his most important life. Training for dishonestly impeaching the United States fictional crime writing because he's participating he's making up the entire thing is becoming increasingly clear that Democrats new their desired ending and are working backwards. It goes back to what I said. It's a pre meditated impeachment of a duly elected president of the United States. You need a whistle blower sure. We'll do central literal casting. I can just imagine Adam. Schiff is doing like American idol style tryouts. So he's got Jerry Nadler. Nancy Pelosi's playing Paula Abdul. Right and they're all sitting and we know they're sitting in some ridiculously nice location in southern California. I was a big American idol. Fan growing up okay. Even though Clay Aitken has turned into this angry Marxist. He's angry Marxists he really. I've never seen that guy. Happy since American idol. He's just always angry bitter at the world most of the leftist. But that's a different point. But actually I have a very personal connection to American idol because going to wheeling high the school. We had one of our graduates. Who I I was actually three years away from Haley? REINHART become a finalist at American idol and the year before the winner of American idol lead wise went to the high school across the street. Prospect High School. So anyway. We're GONNA see Adam Schiff doing American idol style tryouts of people wanting to be the whistle blower. Oh you seem to have a really nice resume you worked for Brennan and Clapper. You worked in the Biden White House you have a security clearance you hate Donald Donald Trump. You're thirty years old. Not GonNa say whistle blowers name but a lot of people have said it. Let's hear your story. Great Basically Adam Schiff has put himself not only as the villain of the story. The fictional Tom clancy writer later but also as the casting director is the guy. Who's actually doing tryouts? So if you need a whistleblower let's just change the rules so my preferred witness fits the bill. Schiff is spending a total a web of lies and building the narrative. is He doing this because he knows he's never going to remove the president and he knows that the only way they can stop the president. It's dates from winning. Reelection is the try to batter his image to try to say no. Why would you wanNA reelected impeach present? United States why would you want to actually cast your vote. That people worked so hard to give you imagine in the suffering. Imagine all the pain. And why would you want to honor those people with casting your vote with impeached president. I could just call it the ads for them right now. Okay I could could save the D.. Triple seat I could save all the eventual non any so much money. I could write their ads for them right here on the Charlie Kirk show so Adam Schiff is not only the villain. He's the angry three principal with subpoena power. He's a bad version of Tom. Clancy look if he actually wasn't if he didn't run for political office. I could see him being like that. Waiter at Nobu who's always just trying to pitch his treatment to the movie executives A. Yeah sure I'll get you another California roll and there's some sake but hey I understand you're in the movie business. I got this great treatment. It's called impeachments. So there's this president who's fascist. He's like a total bad guy but he's a racist he's horrible and then he didn't win the popular vote and we gotta get rid of them. And then there's this Ukraine thing and all this and the guys like are you GonNa get me that Sake and can you get me excited spicy. I see Mayo or something. And he just walks away and total defeat if you know what they say politics is. It's Hollywood for ugly people. That's what this is. I'm not saying ship is ugly. I'm just saying if I was in charge central casting. You would not be my first choice. I'm not one to talk. Okay I get mocked all the time because I have a face for radio but I'm just I was GONNA say not exactly central casting in the looks department would be Adam Schiff okay. Despite that I will always have a position open if Adam Schiff or wants to serve sake ocoee spicy Mayo in California rolls so he can try to pitch a fictional narrative depressing United States. Final thing. I'll say this because he's decided to engage himself in this ridiculous fictional writing the the Republicans are going to rightly hold him accountable for his lies and call him as a material witness or a fact witness in this entire Ukrainian hysteria stereo so I had a really bad back injury recently. In fact the left mocked me for it I will never forget. All of you mocked my back injury anyway. Getting in shape a is not just about losing weight. I know this totally changed my diet because I used to run all the time you know it drives people crazy because I have all this energy. That don't run. We're still trying to solve that problem. And guess what helped me solve that problem. This great thing called noon and and so look. It's an easy news program for all your health and weight. Loss needs no more hunting for these training APPS. Workouts Calorie trackers in meal plans. So so I'm beginning to use it. It's very interesting. I like it a lot. You're starting to see physical. 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Donald Trump has talked to Hillary Clinton more than Bill Clinton over the last year. And a half. I don't think they're actually on talking terms. I mean they basically have a political marriage of convenience. I think the only time they actually talk is onstage. Try to sell tickets to keep their corrupt family foundation nation afloat by the way no one shows up to these things. No one even cares so he doesn't know he's totally in the dark sheep. I mean by the way if I were to give Hillary Clinton advice. I would say absolutely go do it. You cannot tarnish garnish your legacy any further. You have hit rock bottom. You've already lost thought you one you've committed crimes smash device is the best way to stay away out of prison is just run for president. Why not not you look at this field of people that are totally unqualified? I'M NOT GONNA say you're qualified. I mean you're you are uniquely unqualified to become a United States. Because you were able to sell it. Our country to such variety eighty different other countries. It's really impressive. It's amazing how many other countries you were able to compromise our own sovereignty and our security too. I mean look at the list of countries that you took money from and the Clinton Foundation. It's amazing so anyway they say Oh Hillary Clinton is leading Apollo Against Donald Trump. Forty three forty one in the national vote. Look the states created the federal government the federal government and not create the states. We are in an Electoral Royal College. Compact of states. Thank goodness what matters. Are the battleground states. The most so look in a poll and again. I don't like to pick and choose polls because I think most of these polls are garbage when trump is up I say okay. They have to admit it. 'cause it was probably. He was up even more and Wisconsin Against Biden. They have trump up to Joe Biden. WHO's probably the most unimpressive most unenthusiastic quote could front running? We've ever seen we've said Charlie Kirk show for quite some time. The Real Front runner is Senator Elizabeth Warren and she's really starting to show it. But in Wisconsin trump beats worn by two in Michigan and Trump beats worn by five cheese. Pennsylvania trump he's worn by to Florida by four North Carolina. Four Arizona by one why Arizona would be so much less than Michigan. I don't quite understand that we're turning point. USA's headquarters is in Arizona Dot Com. That's Teepee USA DOT com. There's something a strange happening in the state. I'm GonNa tell you exactly what it is. You've got a California problem. All these Californians that are fleeing high taxes and homeless population crowded schools with foreign nationals flooding into their state all of a sudden like. Wow our state kinda sucks. So let's go screw up and other state and that's basically what they're doing and they're bringing their bad voting trends in bed voting habits with them one of the most unbelievable one of those things. I can't figure out we kind of have these big overarching questions. Charlie Kirk show. I WANNA understand why people continue to vote for what they fled from like. Why wouldn't you change your voting habits if you're fleeing screwed up state anyway? So wh what's polling for Burma's are you serious. Come on so this is a New York Times and CNN poll. Okay okay this is a New York Times and Sienna College poll and the fact that President Trump is convincingly beating Warren who will probably be the nominee in all these states shows exactly clearly why. They are pursuing impeachment so look these new battleground state. Polls sending tremors through Democrats circles. I mean president trump is in a great position to get reelected and by the way I look at fundamentals campaign and one of the fundamentals if you look at it and this is a deeper political science of it that the media won't cover intentionally don't cover is rally. Attendance enthusiasm them. The reason why you want to go and vote whether you're basis shirt up or not and finally president trump has going to have one of those cash flush campaigns in American political history. He's he's sitting on one hundred and thirty million dollars to an extraordinary amount of money in any effort let alone one two reel to reel like the United States. It's an extraordinary hall. And he's going to raise about one point five billion to two billion dollars and guess what that number is only get increase where you're up from the election. He's sitting on one hundred and thirty million dollars. Meanwhile the Democrat National Committee is in debt and can barely raise any money in fact the democrat. National Committee went to Mexico to go raise money. It's true they went to Mexico. The Democrat National Committee. Tom Perez that fundraiser in Mexico with Ex PATS PAT's American citizens that wanted to contribute the DNC. That's their constituency is American citizens that live in Mexico. That's what they find their money from. It's amazing and that's where we got no coverage. Could you imagine if Donald Trump went to Russia fundraiser. Ridiculous if the Democrats did not have double standards they would not have any standards at all anyway. So trump struggles badly in national polls who cares states created the federal government photo government and not create the states. We have an Electoral College Compact of states not a national democracy. We Are Republic not a Democracy Democrats are keenly aware. They're getting aware that the election is not being decided by national vote. WHO cares if every human being at the Malibu that Adam Schiff my end up working at hates them means nothing like who cares if everyone Manhattan hates? It doesn't mean anything. The Difference Between Winning California by twenty points doesn't mean anything how does mean something for the House of Representatives that's because of voting trends and popularity not going to diminish that the mission is to get the price in the United States reelected. That's the mission. So winning states like Wisconsin or Michigan North Carolina by one or two you points or losing them by one or two point is what matters so. But here's my prediction. And while impeachment Kinda thrown into all this if Republicans are truly going to call shift to the stand and they're truly going to stand the ground and fight like congress gates does to such a great job. This is not going to end well for the Democrats. The only way this impeachment hysteria goes their way if massive exodus of Republicans and start to go their way if they fight if they cross examine if they turn this into a circus. The American people will blame the Democrats because it President Donald Trump's new campaign ad is terrific. Perfect I WANNA play this campaign at. Actually it's really really good. I have to give them credit. And here's the message that we'll get president. Trump reelected president trump is changing Washington creating six million a new jobs five hundred thousand new manufacturing jobs cutting illegal immigration in half of glittering Isis. Their caliphate destroyed their terrorist leader. Eric Dead but the Democrats would rather focus on impeachment and phony investigations ignoring the real issues. But that's not stopping Donald Trump. He's no Mister Nice Guy Guy but sometimes it takes a donald trump to change Washington. Donald Trump and I approve this message. What I love about this ad is that it doesn't try to explain Elaine away the stuff that people don't like the most about him instead? It makes the irrefutable argument that he's delivered results for our country and by way. This is the sales pitch for president. Trump this is what's it's going to get president. Trump reelected convincingly re-elected is the fact that like okay you might not like my tweets. But guess what you're going to like the fact that Al Baghdadi ideas that you're going to like the fact that Isis destroyed so just to give it a shot. The Ben Shapiro. He did a great job. PODCAST also talked about this ad but travelling the country talking to people. It's exactly right. People do not argue the results. In fact implied debate with Kyle Kalinski it was all about these obscure arguments and he was trying to get into all sorts of different when it was actually to the technical parts of the trump presidency. You see a lowest ever black unemployment low ever black poverty rate lois ever youth on lows youth unemployment sixty years well as female unemployment is sixty years. Those disabled unemployment lowest Asian American employment average income way up wages are up. al-Baghdadi is dead. That's a pretty amazing success story to be able to bring to the American people and I think that it's going to be one that Elizabeth with warners the nominee. She's GONNA have difficulty to compete against. But I will say I'm always a contrarian never underestimate someone who's GonNa give free stuff. Never underestimate a motivated Democrat base. I despite despite all these polls I'm Gonna I would actually much rather run against job. I I know you might say. Oh my because Joe Biden shows that he's up against trump at the fact that binds only up one in Pennsylvania against trump. I would much rather run against Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren. I'm telling you running against an establishment another old establishment Democrat I think is the right foil for Donald Trump people do want some form of the swap to be cleaned Biden cannot make that argument. Trump can make the argument that just give me more time. I can drain the swamp if you get me more time. I've done a good job of it but I need to continue. And they've tried to take me out through the deep state tactics of the FBI with FIS abuse so on and so forth so hasn't been a great show. Thanks so much for listening in guys. Police give us five star ratings type in the Charlie Kirk. Show your podcast provider. Please press subscribe. Get your friend. Do the same. We continue surge on the charts. Thanks to your support and one final thing if you want to get involved turning point. USA please go to TSA DOT COM. That's T. P.. USA DOT COM. We have our big event. Coming up with Ben Shapiro Laura Ingraham Sean Hannity Dan Crenshaw Sarah Sanders. 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The Decade That Was 2020
"From cafe welcome to a special year. End addition of stay tuned with pre. When we released our. I stay tuned with pre episode of the year on january. Second twenty twenty. The world was a remarkably different place. We went to offices and restaurants visited our family members. Spend time with friends actions. We largely took for granted. At the beginning of the year. Many still thought it was possible that donald trump would be removed from office max nations with the ukrainians. We were just beginning to hear about a terrifying and contagious virus. That was causing death and heartbreak. In wuhan china we did not know the names ahmad arbery. George floyd brianna taylor and we had no idea who the democratic presidential nominee would be. Today we bring you a look back at the decade. That was twenty twenty. Thank you as always for your continued support of stay tuned and cafe. We couldn't do this without you. I wish you all happy holidays and hopefully happier. Twenty twenty one. That's coming up stay tuned. Hey folks i want to tell you a bit about what's coming up for kathy insider in two thousand twenty one. Our membership program will continue to include the flagship insider podcast hosted by the extraordinary and milgram and me along with bonus content. Stay tuned there's also the weekly from l. e. hoenig new contributors including rhonda and series like cyberspace. There's a lot for insiders to enjoy. You'll even here exclusive extra content from our upcoming true crime series doing justice based on my book of the same name. I hope you'll join now. A cafe dot com slash insider just for the rest of december. Use the code justice for fifty percent off the annual price that's cafe dot com slash insider and use the code justice at checkout. Thank you for being a loyal listener of stay tuned and happy holidays. It may not seem possible that this happened less than a year ago but we began twenty twenty embroiled in the impeachment trial of president trump over his attempts to push ukrainian president vladimir zilenski into investigating hunter biden my former. Suny colleague. Dan goldman served as legal counsel for house democrats were. He earned widespread praise for his disciplined questioning of twelve pivotal impeachment. Witnesses following trump's equivalent. Early february dan join me for a special episode of stay tuned to reflect on his experience. Okay so here's another question that people have and i've thought about this from the perspective of our jobs. How do you decide on what the articles of impeachment should be. Why just to how come it was so broad based and i think i have some sense of what you might say abuse of power obstruction of congress to the extent that there was a case to be made as your boss made to argument many times on the floor of bribery or extortion or some other viable crime that we understand to be a crime. I understand why you want not want to pick one or the other but in our all jobs you probably would have had to catch all countinent indictment and then you add extortion bribery etc. And then sometimes we would argue. It's good to give the choice. Because it can reach some compromise and they can acquit on some and convicting. That's the thinking that goes on in in prosecutor's offices. What was the thinking here. Well i don't know all of the thinking. Generally i can sort of relayed to you. What my perspective was from from my seat. Which is that. you're absolutely right. If this were a criminal trial we would have charged or alleged. Abuse of power bribery. Extortion on down the list. Probably also you would have added. Some obstruction of justice. Counts from the muller report right. If this were a criminal court probably. I think generally right when you are charging a defendant. You charged defendant with all crimes that you feel like you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt and the the difference here is. There are political consequences in their political. A political fallout to all of this. It doesn't just end with the verdict with a prosecution for the most part ends with the verdict. And so you have to take into consideration where everybody else stands. And i think the general answer to your question is the ukraine conduct was so different in kind from really anything that was included in the muller report which found that the president and the trump campaign sorta happily received foreign interference and utilized it but did not conspire to obtain it whereas here we have as a candidate right without awesome of the president's he wears here you have someone with the awesome powers of the presidency using those powers to coerce a foreign ally and ratchet up pressure in order to get these political investigations for his personal benefited. It felt like it was jeopardized. National security jeopardize our credibility jeopardize the elections there was any host of real viable important dangers. And i think the theory was you want a consistent and uniform theme that you can not only marshall to the senate but there were really two juries. There was the senate as yours. But there's the american public and it was important for the american public to understand the worst conduct. What it was and to understand it as well as possible and if you start throwing the kitchen sink. It muddies the message. It allows for a creative either lawyer or advocate on the other side to twist things or to focus on. What is a personal benefit under the bribery statute under the mcdonald's case you get into all sorts of very weedy technicalities and the theory is that abuse of power is the highest crime. It was what the founding of the constitution it incorporated elements of bribery elements of extortion which were not statutory crimes at the time and so that seems to be the most serious what we would call the top charge in prosecutor Parlance the most serious allegation. That's what you go with. You prove that and this whole notion that oh you need to have a statutory crime. I mean this was a fabrication essentially of alan dershowitz. We're not gonna spend any time. That doesn't mean that just doesn't pass the laugh much. We have too much else to talk about. And i think we've sold reasonable people on the argument. He walked back away from it as well. So then there's this period of time where as you already mentioned. We weren't clear on whether or not the articles of impeachment be transmitted or conveyed to the senate. I don't think it was more than a blip people like me and others who's part time job. It is to opine on these things speculated as the strategy and everything else but ultimately in fairly short order after the new year. The articles are conveyed. And there's going to be a trial couple of personal questions about that first one. Did you maintain even though senate trials different from a courtroom trial. Did you maintain any the superstitions. We used to follow in the southern district among them. Did you ever get a haircut during the trial. I did not get a haircut during the trial. Get a haircut before the trial though which is also a superstition. There is the the trial haircut. Where you you get a haircut before the trial and then you do not cut your hair throughout the The remainder of the trial which can be difficult when he started to trial. long people get a special dispensation. You also don't want to show up with everyone wondering county. Dan herron let them to focus on the fact so you did not get a haircut. I did not get a haircut on. The heels of impeachment came the months that changed. Everything by february confirmed cases of covid nineteen were on the rise and by early march. I had set up a remote podcasting studio in my basement. It was unclear what was to come but our guests for saw it being devastating for families hospitals workers and businesses in march. We lost my father-in-law to another element as covid cases continued to rise in new york. So many families faced similar pain to make matters. Worse hospitals became overcrowded and even faced shortages in ppe. I got this letter from a listener. Working on the frontlines. So as many of you know last wednesday my father-in-law at age ninety one passed away at his home outside of chicago. And as i said in the note last week that i read for the stay tuned audience. The worst part about it all was that my wife wasn't able to be by his side at the end. I've received so many notes of kind condolences from so many of you. I'm i'm very grateful for all of them. They really touched me. There's one note in particular that i want to share with all of you. However it's from dr hannah dylan. Who works in the icu. At a hospital in arizona. Here's what she wrote your story about your wife not getting to be by. His side was moving and got me thinking about the many americans in that same situation as loved ones hospitalized in isolation awards the most difficult thing about this pandemic for me is not the long hours where the time away from my family or the bruises on my face from the and ninety five mask. The most difficult thing is that my patients are without their loved ones in their struggle. I had patients on ventilators whose families are aching to be with them to hold their hand to whisper goodbye bread. Time comes the tragedy of physical distancing means. We cannot enfold one another at a time when we need it. Most as your wife was not able to be by her father's side so many people are yearning to be with their loved ones. I wondered if you could share this small comfort with your listeners. Who may be in pain from the separation in our hospital. No one is alone not when they first arrive not when they are joyously discharged to recover at home and not even when they passed from this world before every physical exam i do before i adjust the ventilator or check the medications or listen to the lungs i take a moment to hold my patients hand and speak to them even when they are sedated. Even though gowns and masks and gloves separate us. I greet them. I tell them we're fighting for them. I remind them that they are loved. Our nurses learn the names of wives and children and friends and speak to the patient about them while they do their work. Your wife told me. The roses are blooming. Says one nurse. She repositions a patient. Your son will be so happy to hear that you're awake says another we stay. We are always there. We know so many of you. The families of the sick would give anything to be there yourself. I am so profoundly. 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America a failed state because of the lack of federal direction in fighting the pandemic we are not a textbook failed state. I've reported in textbook failed states. I reported in iraq. During the first years of the war and after the overthrow saddam iraq was a failed state somalia sierra leone during the civil war in those cases the state has stopped functioning. Basic services are unavailable. Crime is rampant and people are really on their own and kind of retreat into local units because the national government is no longer there or was never there to help so they go back to their village. They go back to their tribe. That's not us. we you know. Checks are going out stimulus. Checks are going out and Hospitals are doing heroic work. Hospital workers Subway workers are doing heroic work so we're functioning but what's not functioning is our national government. I was particularly thinking of those days. And i'm sure you remember this. In the first few days of march when ordinary people suddenly began to realize that this was coming for us. We haven't really been told by our leaders until then began to be clear and everyone had to make up their own mind on their own. Do i send my kid to school today. Do i take the subway today. Do i go into work today. And that was when i had this shiver of remembering what it was like to be in those other countries where you have no instructions coming from the authorities where the national government is missing or is giving you a lot of happy talk or or misleading information. And doesn't this is. The crucial thing doesn't even seem to care about the well. Being of its citizens that reminded me of real failed states. It's a it's a figurative term for us but it has a real meaning and yet there's been a weakening of our of our systems that we could tolerate as long as unemployment was low. The markets were robust. We were at peace. There were no crises tolerate but not be healthy. We were not healthy. And i think the the fundamental il has been polarization both economic and political the incredible divide between americans based on on class and on partisanship and race and region such that. We don't talk any longer for all in it together and win a crisis like this comes. It shows you the state of those systems. It shows you how the organism is doing and it turns out and we should have known this. We did know this that we were very unhealthy. So when you find out that government experts were silenced ignored that the federal government had done everything it could. It seems to be sure that we did not have the stockpiles. We would need for pandemic where the plans that we would need. Or the ability to test and trace when you see what's happening with workers who are being forced to stay at work or go back to work too soon even when they're sick and to working conditions that's going to get them sick because they have no protections. These are workers largely low income largely in the service sector who we all depend on. But we didn't really think about them very much. At least a lot of us didn't because they were invisible meatpackers invisible amazon warehouse workers are invisible but now we see them and we see how little protection they have. And that's another source of. I think real systemic weakness as well as a moral failing and all of that and i could go on and on about. This is right in our face now. If we're willing to see it and not to forget it wants things begin to slowly subside. And return to some semblance of normality certain crises arise and there's either unity at the beginning or not and those things can change get worse or get better but it causes me and ask the question you know what what kinds of crises bring us together which drive us apart. I would not have predicted no matter. What the underlying conditions are that something like a pandemic would cause division because it's not a political enemy in any way and so for example. This may be unfair question to you. Know if an asteroid were hurtling towards the earth would americans and citizens of the world as you see in the movies become united or divided or also you see in the movies if there was an alien invasion of something that was from without earth from outside of earth not bound up in conservative or liberal ideologies or race or class. It's just it's a something. That's a menace to everyone. No matter who they are. How do you think we would react now. And what is what has caused this thing. That seems to be apolitical to become political. You mean would be hearing about the asteroid hoax Yeah i guess. Yeah i i think probably. I think everything now breaks down along those lines. Everything it doesn't matter where and it doesn't matter. What the nate. Even if the nature of thing is completely apolitical it can be politicized. Because of the nature of political discourse as the virus rage on workers and businesses continued to take the hit. I spoke to david chang founder of momofuku restaurant group about how restaurants being hung out to dry. It was pretty clear to me that wants this gal to america. This is going to do exactly what it did to restaurants in hong kong and john and in seoul korea and yet simultaneously. I was like well. I feel pretty confident. Our government is going to do better job. Why i believe that i don't know Because that's historically been the way that america has handled things. This being a notable recent exception. Fbi i thought worst case scenario would do ninety percent. Who would it would make ninety percent of independent restaurants close. That was my back of envelope. Math and a lot of people are just out of your mind dave. You're always a naysayer. And i don't wanna be riot about this. This is a terrible scenario. And i think it will be right. I think when it's all said and done you know there was a resistance that idea that we thought that even i thought we august-september would be the time we'd be reopening at the worst case scenario. No one in my industry thought it would last a year. Plus and i don't think any restaurant outside of publicly you know restaurants that have access to public markets can sorta survived that so this is a problem and when they said twenty five percent occupancy and fifty percent those are just random asked numbers and if you are in the restaurant industry and you follow closely the health code and protocols just let me tell you guys they still. The department of health for the most part still has an updated a national or even comprehensive state level. About all the do's and don'ts a safety protocol for how to handle food in the post covid world and that should tell you something we're so behind across the board. No one had any idea when it began. And here's the problem. Free no one. The government level has really implemented anything since the beginning of cova crisis other than you know reopen restaurants at a lower capacity. And what they haven't done is that's okay. You want to force restaurants to reopen or just you take away and dining. That's totally fine but we should do something that a lot of our neighbors particularly say sydney in europe and canada have done. You're going to continue to subsidize. Restaurants as they are closed or operate a limited capacity. We have done none of that. And p p p is just a band aid and it doesn't cover a lot of the other things that are restaurant does and because of that lack of intervention. I mean. I hate to say it. But i think collectively restaurants are going to be like lehman brothers of two thousand eight. And why does that matter so much because of its effect on the economy because of defect on individual people that the government seems to be leaving behind all of that in. I want people to understand that restaurants are are. It's too small to fail. And that's what i've been saying because you're going to have the same repercussions as it might hit investment banks and wall street. All of this is connected. The real estate all this real estate is levered sometimes highly levered so it just is going to unfold in a different way but people should understand that they're small restaurants or the restaurants. They frequent that are not chains. Or you know have corporate bodies their banks. They're their banks in two ways. One they are banks. Because i think ninety five percent of all cash flow in generated by restaurants goes out the door immediately to other parts of industry accounting legal services. Bakery's floor is butchers. You name it. But we don't charge interest right and secondly a lot of these restaurants are cultural banks whether they serve good food or not. These are institutions that are so central to your community. And you need to understand that. And we're gonna lose them unless we do something about it and i. I'm terribly afraid of what's going to happen. And spoken to actually a fair amount of elected officials in congress and their hands are tied. They don't know what to do and on some of the people that i really admire. They're asking the hard questions. And i think we need to be asked because they don't want to pump money into an industry that was this fragile. To begin with that was barely working before february. Twenty twenty in terms of economics and rising fixed costs. So they're like okay. We will do this if we can fix the foundation correctly in that deals with you know all the labor issues and and a lot of the systemic problems in my business that can only truly be fixed with legislation. So we're sort of. I mean i'm trying not to curse here but we're totally screwed because on on the right side you have. Republicans like screwed. We restaurant industries doing fine. Look at how fast food is doing. Their revenues are up and blah blah blah. And on our left. You happy pull. They're like well. We're not gonna fix something. That's already like problematic. It needs to be better. So i don't know what to do here. Few people in david's position had good options and they still don't as unemployment grew trans emerged. Who was being hit. The hardest those most affected by covid tend to be from low-income income black and brown communities and with the mitch. Mcconnell led senate reluctant to pass sufficiently sweeping federal aid the inequality became even more pronounced. I spoke to zanny minton beddoes editor of the economist about the difference between the real economy on the ground and the stock market. And i think this divergence is much more pronounced. Now the divergence between what's going on on wall street what's going on otherwise in the economy and people keep reminding us that the stock market is not the economy and yet there are politicians when the stock. Market's doing well like the president who basically uses it as a substitute for the economy. Is there any more you can. You can say to explain to people. Why is the case. The stock market is not the economy does not necessarily an accurate reflection of how the economy is doing. Well the stock market is i guess. Investors best guess of where you know the future stream of companies prophets is gonna go discounted back to be today and i think that that's affected both by their expectations of tomorrow's prophets. It's also affected by what people think. The interest rate is going to be. Thus what monetary policies gauge b and part of. What's going on now is a reflection of the enormous amount of stimulus is being put in particular by the federal reserve. That's some of what's going on in in financial markets. Some of it is. Also i think a sense that perhaps there's some of this rose-tinted nece that we've just been talking about. But what worries me is that i do think. Gap between the two is hard to sustain unwanted destroy. The stock markets anticipate where the economy is going to go. So it's okay to have a gap between the awfulness of today's statistics which reflect what happened yesterday in the real economy and much more optimistic stock. Market i i. I'm not sure that we're going to see big improvement for the reasons we've just talked about of what's happening in the real economy but what worries me that the scale of that gap is so big and i think that's kind of really interesting politics around that i think to talk about the economy doing well all four to try to gauge the health of the economy from the stock market when millions and millions of people are still losing jobs when the unemployment rate is in double digit figures and win the people who've been hit hardest by covid People at the bottom of the income ladder are people who are less skilled who tend to be the people who work in labor intensive sectors. Who work in you know. They are the cleaners in hotels. They are the wait staff at the restaurant. They are the people who are in the front lines who have been hit the hardest. That's a very dangerous gap. I think to have a sort of in a country between if you have a stock market is booming and disproportionately stocks of course run by wealthier people and you have a real economy that is hurting and the people who are hurting most in it are the less killed that to me is not a recipe for social harmony. These inequalities became even more palpable on may twenty fifth minneapolis. Police officer derek. Chauvin knelt on the neck of george floyd a black man for eight minutes and forty six seconds killing him. Bystanders recorded floyd's brutal final moments which set off widespread protests about police brutality and systemic racism americans continue to have difficult and meaningful conversations about police reform representation and how we should view our collective passed in july. I spoke with princeton history professor eddie globe junior who had just released a fantastic james baldwin called begin again james baldwin america and it's urgent lessons for our own glide reflected on our likelihood to embrace real change around racial issues with respect to the killing of george. Floyd do you think. America has changed and is on a pass to change. Nah i'm not sure yet. You know so. You're not saying no you're not you're not sure. Yeah you know. I mean there's a moment where james baldwin is interviewing benjamin chavis a former president of inability c p a part of the wilmington ten and this is for his documentary. I heard it through the grapevine. And there's this startling moment were baldwin says in effect. We're we're still living under the slave codes a startling provocative formulation but he's talking about policing in the country so when that police that former police officer had his knee on george floyd's neck and but that look on his face with no regard for the humanity of the person underneath that me. That was an echo. That was the through line in american history. That's different that's familiar to every parent every black person who has any sense of awareness accomplish cop look at any may be. You may be a very nice man trying to figure that out. You know you've got a gun late in that way. Let's only way to ray to it at all is gonna one of us may have to die but you know people that that public lynching was the match to light to tinderbox. Where in the moment. Where is the possibility change. I call it a moral reckoning but there's no guarantee were already starting to hear pivots right. We're already starting to hear it. So we'll see. Are we hearing those pits. Because people grow tired and they can't focus so much on one thing at a time or it's just gravitational pull back to where we were before It's a combination of things. There's been a de formation of attention of the last few decades You know where we move quickly as as we can click. So there's that there is the reality of a global pandemic and the incompetence of an administration that has failed at every turn to address the fact that this pandemic is killing americans at alarming rates. What three million infected in over one hundred thirty thousand dead as as of this conversation so so there is that but then there is. There is america's has a tendency to exhaust itself fairly quickly when it comes to race matters. It wants to congratulate itself very quickly and then expect gratitude. Is that why you think that there's some things that have happened very quickly. It takes a while to change. Attitudes takes a long while to change. Culture take some a time to change laws but you know. The washington redskins are no more. Various statues have been taken down real things. Are those performative things which is become popular word today matter. How do you think about those things matter. They matter but they can't be the substance of the response right immediate matters for example that the mississippi flag has been taken down with the battle flag of the confederacy. But at the same time. The the governor signed that piece of legislation he also was denying legislation vetoing legislation. That could've fundamentally helped poor black and white people in the state of mississippi so there is a sense in which The symbolic shifts are critical in announcing perhaps the beginnings of a shift in how we think of of one another but they can't be the substance of our response but oftentimes again given the fact that were such an immature nation. And you can explain what i mean by. That was so immature that we want to be congratulated for every gesture. And then there's the expectation that we should be grateful. You know so. Governor cuomo can tell the protesters you've achieved what you want to achieve gone home now really really version of completely different setting but version of donald trump wearing a mask for the first time publicly in wanting to be congratulated in exactly and admired for doing the bare minimum that is necessary as the leader of the country. One hundred and thirty thousand people have died exactly exactly so we need much more would need much more. So we're on the precipice we'll see what will have is black lives matter movement like the civil rights movement of the sixties or. Is it something different. Something different you know. We need to think about the nineteen sixties as a historic elaborations. We tend to read it as the norm. But when you think about the history of the country the sixties in a stand out as abnormal. But i wanna say the black lives matter is kind of like a a broad rubric which a number of different political Iterations your political organizations exist so we might. It might be better to think of black lives matter not as a movement but as a slogan that organizes different or a slogan by different political organizations in this moment so when we re black lives matter as a movement. We want to identify leaders. We wanted to identify agenda. We wanted to identify particular persons. Who are engaged in a kind of concerted organized effort to do x y and z. But we'll strategy exactly but if we think about black lives matter as general sensibility. That's organizing different ways of expressing our discontent with society as it is now. We're looking at for a little bit more complexity. Were being a little bit more. Nuanced are now and the analogy. I would use as black power to think of black power. As a movement is to lose sight of all the different organizations that were part of black power from the black panther party to to the us movement to the revolutionary action movement to black studies movements that led to african american studies in universities. I mean it's just a variety of political political organizing. that's happening underneath that rubric. So by tend to resist reading black lives matter as a movement. Instead i think it's it's a rubric under which different kinds of grassroots are doing extraordinary work scholarship on race and inequality continued to pour forth from thinkers across the country in october writer. Isabel wilkerson released cast the origins of our discontents. A remarkable book that compared the way hierarchies form across different societies lucas in an i discussed her theories about how issues of caste interact with american racism. Do you think tin human dna or social dna for groups to wanna be superior to at least one other group is that doesn't inevitability that we have to deal with a pathogen as you might say or can we grow that. I would like to believe that you know there. There may have been a time when there was long long long long ago when humans did not have access to the technologies and advancements that we now take for granted where it was people were out in the frontier out in the wilderness out on the land and were endanger. Perhaps every almost every minute of lives that people needed to band together in order to protect themselves but we have advanced as a species and we are now at a point where we we have at our instant access information that others before us could not have imagined i would like to believe that because of the advancements because of the in some ways the luxury of being able to to sit and to contemplate and to read into in in. We might have a question that comes in our mind and we can instantly find the answer. You know on our devices may we. We have the luxury of being able to see things differently and not to be fighting each other because there are much greater challenges that we face species that the planet faces that in we should find. We should be in a position of of coming together somehow to recognize the greater threats to human happiness human health human human wealth. The fact that that we still have these health challenges that can do such damage to human beings. Why do we not have a cure for cancer. Why do we not have solution to Challenges of polluted waters. That people are having to deal with for example in flint michigan. Even to this day. I mean why are these things that we should be so advanced as as a species that some of the things that make life so much more challenging for people. It seems to me that there should be a way to push back in a define ways to transcend them. And i would say that one of the greatest tragedies of any caste system any hierarchy such as those describing is the loss potential loss lives of course of people who did not have the opportunity to live out their lives potential whatever talents and gifts they might have had for over generations speak of anonymous states. Which is the focus of this book. You know for two hundred and forty six years. Twelve generations of people african americans who were not permitted to live out whatever expertise ever talent. They might have had him if you think about those. Those cotton fields and rice plantations in sugar plantations those different plantations. They were opera singers and jazz musicians and lawyers. You've chapter about sexual page. The pitcher who you know people know and he had a little bit of a career in the major leagues but most of it was denied him. You have a lot of real examples like that this this concept of not wanting to be the bottom rung even have a or a section entitled the necessity of the bottom rung it helps certain. People perpetuate their power and an observation. You make i think is is important. One as people think about the last election is they think about power and voting in america now and it has to do with this observation that some liberals have which is. Why would some people in america working white class or or or poor white citizens voters. Why would they vote against their interest. And you say this in your book quote why some people in the left keep asking why. Oh why were these. People voting against their own interests. The question is on the left. Were seeing and yet so certain what they had not considered was that the people voting this way were in fact voting their interests. Maintaining the caste system as it had always been was in their interest and some are willing to accept short-term discomfort forego health insurance risk contamination of the water and air and even die to protect their long term interest in the hierarchy as they had known it. What does that long-term interest in a system. That is not doing much for them. Well that's assuming that the system is not doing much for them by the standards or the even unspoken and even maybe unrecognized we think of unconscious bias. The unconscious messaging that that everyone and a casas receives that the less one has to fall back on in a competitive for really forbidding economy of it has very little in the way of a safety net compared to other western nations. The less you have to fall back on and the way of education well job security The more one may rely on inherited status. That's according to people in the dominant cast over the the history of this country. And that means that there'd be a greater investment the greater the investment. The less one has a fall back. On the greater investment there would be in maintaining the hierarchy as it has been known because that has been the means by which you know as i was saying before you know the idea standing and respect and benefit of the doubt that an access to resources that that are deeply known by people. Up and down the hierarchy. There was a professor in andrew hacker professor who asked students. Just ask the students white students. How much would you have to be paid. How much would you expect to be paid. If you knew that from that you would have to spend the next fifty years of your life as a black person in america. how much would you. How much would you want to be paid. What what what would you think would be a fair compensation for the For being transferred into a different cast she might say and they got the students would get together and they figured out in one of his classes they got together and kept you get out a number and the number of they came back was fifty million dollars one million dollars for every year that they would have to be black that they would have to be african american and so people know they know the value that inherited and not of anyone's doing no one asked to be at any station in in the caste system. I mean you are born where you born and you have nothing to do with it so this is not about blaming in any way shape or form this is about recognition that once you once you see the almost unspoken hierarchy that positions want some people above other people. People know that. There's a value to that and i think the students in that professor's class you know get at what i'm talking about here and now a word from our sponsors after three years away politically reactive is back with new episodes. And unfortunately there's a lot to talk about hosted by w. kamau bell of cnn's united shades of america and hari kondabolu writer and star of the problem with apu politically reactive isn't essential guide to the wave after wave of unprecedented events and badness of american politics every week canal. Hurry talk with. The creators thinkers and leaders doing the work to defend and reinvent our democracy plus they bring you into their ongoing conversations as friends and fathers trying to make sense of the headlines with equal parts laughter and outrage kamau in hari. Want you to be appalled but never discouraged politically reactive. We'll help you find ways to take action and feel your power. Listen and subscribe to politically reactive on apple podcasts. Spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts. You may also recall that. We had an election this year. It was an election royal by unproven allegations of voter fraud. By the president of the united states as early as march when the extent of pandemic became clear states started encouraging absentee voting president trump and his allies began waging an all out war on the legitimacy of the upcoming election in early july. I spoke with ellen. Weintraub a commissioner on the federal election commission about the facts of mail in voting and the threat to democracy posed by the president's repeated taxed. You have taken the president to task a little bit because our president has made statements repeatedly about how mail in balloting would be super fraudulent voting party election last month. Sure i could vote by mail. Further allowed to well that's called out of state. You know why. I voted. Because i happened to be in the white house so they won't be able to go to florida. Vote difference between somebody that's out of state and does a ballot and everything sealed. Certified and everything else you see what you have to do with the certifications and you get thousands and thousands of people sitting in somebody's living room signing ballots. All over the place. No i think that mail in voting is a terrible thing. I think of you vote. You should go. And even the concept of early voting is not the greatest because a lot of things happen. But it's okay but you should go and you should vote. I think you should go and you should vote. You look at what they do where they grab thousands of mail in ballots and they dump it. I'll tell you what i don't have to tell you. Look at the statistics. There's a lot of dishonesty going along with mail voting mellon balance back in. May he tweeted. There is no way zero. That mail in ballots will be anything less than substantially fraudulent. And i think at that time and even more recently you have contested that view. I don't believe in their view myself. We've had other people in the show talk about that. On the first of july you tweeted quote there at one hundred twenty five days until election day. The earth is still around and there is still no basis for the conspiracy theory that hashtag vote by mail with corrupt will corrupt the election when elaborate on. Why you're so confident. That vote by mail is okay look this is going to be a challenging election. I think everybody agrees on that. And basically we have two options. We can vote by mail or we can vote in person. That's really the ballgame and what we're finding in this era of covid nineteen where people are strongly advised not to gather together in groups particularly not an indoor settings that voting in person is going to be problematic for one thing. A lot of the people who are poll workers are older and a high risk group. So the we've seen this throughout the primaries that the jurisdictions have to shutdown polling places because they don't have enough staff so there's been this real consolidation of polling places. It's been harder for people to vote in person. there are longer lines some Jurisdictions of handle this better than others but We have seen a lot of long lines at a lot of complaints about people who felt the fed In person voting wasn't working very well with that. They didn't feel safe doing it. People need to be able to vote. And there's only two ways of doing it so to stir people up and suggests that there's going to be fraud if people more people vote by mail when no study has documented. This and people have looked into this and even the people who are most adamant about the risk can only come up with a small number of cases over billions of votes taken over decades. So there really is no backup for this and it's harmful to make people feel that the vote is not going to be fair that they can't trust it. This is where there's a real risk here that we're destroying something that's very precious and of course. How could we forget the debates in what was perhaps a low point in the election season president trump directly addressed the white supremacist group. The proud boys during a belligerent interruption filled first abate in late september new york one commentator air lewis and i broke it down. There was a moment the debate. And i know you commented on it last night and maybe this was the worst moment in the debate. I don't know when donald trump was asked about a white supremacist group known as the proud boys and he gave kind of a bizarre response. I like music. Stand back and stand by and there were reports that people were members of that group. Were overjoyed by that. Acknowledgment would reaction to that. I it mean it speaks for itself amid it's breathtaking. It's charlottesville all over again. You know. I mean this is not somebody who telegraphs what he wants to do. It's not it's not a dog whistle it's a foghorn it was in this case it was literally a call to arms to people to go into polling sites disrupt the elections any which way they can. I mean i either. Trump trump is laid out strategies. He wants to disrupt the elections. Anyway he can you know sort of think of it as like a ninety day version of what we saw last night disrupt the proceedings. If you think you can't win and in the midst of the election madness we lost illegal icon and northstar supreme court justice ruth bader ginsburg. Nyu law school professor. Melissa murray join me to reflect on the notorious rpg's unique legacy and the painful climate. She left behind. This was a woman who had beat that cancer so many times and was such a survivor that surely she would hold on until november third. I mean she certainly understood the stakes. it was clear in her sort of dying declaration to granddaughter that she understood the stakes and the all. I think just imagine that she would hold on if she could. I think we're really voting began in some places on that day on the day she passed. Yes why do you think justice ginsburg meant so much to young women. It's i can just speak to my own experience. And i am obviously not a young woman but might joint say otherwise but like she had this really fantastic career as a women's rights litigator even before she came to the court at any she had done nothing more on but have that career as a litigator that would have been a legacy of enormous consequence but then of course she did go onto the court is the second woman to be a justice and she had a really fantastic career not necessarily in the majority all the time think. Most notable majority opinion was her opinion in the united states versus virginia but asked. The court moved to the right. she really became a kind of liberal lion. Anchoring that liberal block on the court and her dissents really were fierce and fabulous of correspond. This mean the notorious rpg. And i think that also helped route her in popular culture and gave her a new audience with young women and i know tickled her to know that so. Many women of this next generation were reading her work at admiring her. But i think there's also this idea that you know. I think women feel quite acutely that as age you really are put on the shelf in american society. We're a society that values youth. And here's this woman who defied odds and almost every aspect of her career right up until the end where in her eighties a time. When women are literally on the dust bin of society she becomes a cultural icon and it's just absolutely unimaginable. When you think about it. As election day neared. I spoke with top democratic election lawyer. Marc elias about the various doomsday scenarios and the likelihood of the election being decided by the supreme court. What are some of the things that you worry about. Post november third that the trump administration either through d. h. s. or through the attorney general. Mike do to prevent the counting especially these absentee ballots that might skew the result so look my job is to worry about everything. But thank you to be honest with you. Our elections are are largely decentralized. You know the truth is it's interesting. I i had a case in In florida that we wanted the trial court got reverse that the eleventh circuit and their grounds for russell at the eleventh circuit was that we had sued the secretary of state who is the chief elections officer but the eleventh circuit found that the notwithstanding them being the chief election elections officer She was actually not empowered to run elections in in florida. And that i needed to have sued all sixty seven counties because it's actually run by counties. Now i happen to think that you were seeking a monk review of that panel discussion. Because i don't think it's correct but it does get to a. There is a kernel of something there which is that. Dhs doesn't run elections. You know the attorney general as you know. I haven't been turning. You really didn't have authority over the conduct of elections guest but thick but can they seize authority in peculiar circumstances to with an election. I don't think so. I mean again. This is something everyone's gotta you know. People who are who are paid to worry about the worst. The worst will gain this out and figure out what the counter plans are. But you know the my experience is that the the local elections officials in leon county florida kind of runs the elections in leon county for and oftentimes doesn't even listen to the state says and the states are given the constitutional power to run elections and though congress is given an overriding authority That over authority is given to congress. It's not given to the president. Did not give into the attorney general. It's not given to it's not given to. Dhs so you know again. I don't want to be. I don't wanna have rose colored glasses on. I realized you know as i've said to many people. Donald trump is is shameless. And therefore he's dangerous because we can have no shame you're willing to do anything But i do think that the court system and the local election officials would balk at the idea that the federal government's ability to disrupt local election officials from doing what is their constitutional obligation. And right. what about this issue that. Some people are speculating. About that allows state delegations to maybe change the result of the election and throw it to the house. I think you mean state legislatures. Yes yes yeah again. I think that that would into really serious constitutional problems There's certainly questions to other states. Need to hold presidential elections others could could a state simply choose to slate. Its own electors Without holding a presidential election An interesting question But not one that we face since every state currently is holding is planning on holding an election and confident that's gonna happen I think once they've held that election. I think the ability of the state legislatures to step in becomes harder. And of course you have governor who have democratic governors in michigan in wisconsin and pennsylvania and north carolina. So i think i think they'll be chatter about that. I think it's a legitimate thing for people to be prepared for my main focus right now is making sure. Everyone registered to vote and votes And then make sure their vote counts And that's really where. I'm spending my time and effort for it to be another bush versus gore. The election has to be exceedingly close and it has to be you know in a pivotal state. so i never say never And certainly every two years. I prepare for that and we've had some very close elections in the senate and we had almost close election two thousand and four in ohio or not. We had a close election rather in into that volumes. Wanted to say in two thousand four hundred ohio and then obviously the three states in two thousand sixteen. But you know that's that's that's i think how i think of ways that's encouraging because it seems like everyone is assuming for a fact that there's going to be a battle goes to the supreme court in the case that it's a close which it may be in. You're not so sure about. Uh no i'm saying that in order for it to be a close enough election for the courts to make a difference. It has to be a really close election. I mean like not close as in like two points close as in two tenths of a point. And that's that's what i'm saying is that you know. Ultimately senator kerry lost in ohio eighty thousand votes and that was a close election but it was not a close enough that any particular court decision was going to change the outcome of the results. So you know. Remember in florida in two thousand. We were talking about less than a thousand votes. Had issue the morning after election day. All the cafe hosts and i jumped on a special stay tuned. Call to debrief the scenario. That pretty closely resembled would weintraub elias. Had suggested might happen. Anybody get any sleep very little. I got about six hours. I made a smart decision at night. Because i made a smart decision at midnight that we weren't going to get anything decisive or sort of firm for at least until the next morning so midnight to six and it was. It was a wise decision. I will say. I tried to do the same thing but i couldn't sleep while not surprisingly i didn't even try. It was three thirty before. I knocked out still couldn't sleep or many beverages consumed massive. Did you sleep. I slept some. it's i. I went to bed late. I wanted to hear the quote unquote president. Speak and see how crazy his talk was going to be. And we'll get to that then. My kids were up early. So there's sound in commotion was. It wasn't a ton. But i made it. I made it to this podcast recording. Maybe we should for a brief second l. You wanted to sort of tell us where we are. What is certainly the case with. Respect to the state of play in the various states understanding that this is subject to change over the course of the day. Yeah subject to all the legal disclaimers votes still being counted at this moment. It seems that things are trending fairly solidly towards joe biden. Basically all the states that we sort of knew with whether they would go retrograde or blue have gone those way and we had all the important states now michigan wisconsin pennsylvania arizona nevada maybe to a lesser extent georgia and north carolina. All seem to either have biden ahead or he's pulling away or closing the gap quickly. Because what we're seeing now is more of the mail in ballots be counted and more of the area in person votes be counted both of which really trend strongly in democrats and violence favor. So i'd say at this point. It looks likely not certain but likely that biden. We'll take this with. That's assuming no interference going forward that assuming legal challenges that don't go anywhere and all of that right. That's assuming an awful lot of things. Yeah th- those. Those would be top of the list. Shortly after joe biden was officially declared the winner i spoke with new yorker writer. Gilani cobb about biden's path to victory. And what the closeness of the election says about the country we live in. Let me ask you a very easy question. How did joe biden win both the nomination and the election take all the time so you the most basic point of it you know was getting more votes than the other guy or the other women you know. Yeah and i think there was some things that facilitated him getting the nomination that would than the things facilitated him winning the election. And you know what i mean by that. Is that a for lots of reasons. People seem to believe that everyone had to run as a kind of bernie sanders progressive. And you know or at least frame themselves as that. And so you'll biden. And i guess there's certain extent buddha judge We're really in the moderate centrist lane and if there was a reasoning that if the republican party had gone and a far to the right that gave democrats room to go far to the left you know especially on the economy income inequality in health in those kinds of things. And i think at the same time. There were lots of voters particularly in biden's case african american voters. Who will wary of that idea. You know looking at what happened in two thousand sixteen a significant slice of the at least a primary. I was thinking we want the most palatable candid it possible. The person that is you know inoffensive to the most people and ill quite frankly. I think they were people who had concern that after having a nominated an african american man and then a woman of that. The democratic party was the barrier breaking candidates. Were going to necessarily face headwinds. I don't agree with that reasoning. Necessarily but i think that that was how people saw the question and so for for joe biden. Once south carolina happened it was pretty much over and it also brought up the other question. I was in south carolina and one of the things that seem to be after the case was maybe the early primaries. Maybe iowa and new hampshire gend up a lot of drama and a lot of cliff hanger kinds of interest but they didn't really reflect what the bigger electorate was like you the certainly very few voters of color and either of those states and biden the key to his victory in the primaries was that i think that's why he said that in that speech the african american community. There you have it. That line is going to be quoted but people in the left and on the right pretty much for the next four years no matter what else happens. What do you make this discussion. That people are having in the aftermath of the election in which people are saying. Look seventy three million people are or some odd number voted for trump. We need to understand the trump voters. We need to understand how so many people could vote for person. Who has these views and who says these things and acts in this particular way that rankle some people like. Why don't those those voters understand or make an attempt to understand the eighty million Larger number who voted for biden. Many of them are in the cities people in cities get demonized all the time but you know in the in the pages of elite magazines often. It's the case that the discussion instead turns to will what's going on in the middle of the country and in rural areas. What do you make of that discussion. What do we need to learn. And how should we go about that. I mean i think it's it's frustrating in one regard because if you talking about Policy analysis or demography or any of the things that we do any time. There's an election d- understand how vote breaks down how a particular slice of the electorate things you know why people are motivated to do particular things. Sure that is no more or less pressing now been would be in any election but the underlying sentiment that they represent a group of people who have been wronged or who somehow have lacked for a forum within the culture the broader society is frustrating. In a because what typically happens is you know. That's the first part of it. The other part of it is the belief that people have paid too much attention to the issues of people of color and that the attention. The concerns of these communities have come at the expense of paying attention to issues that relate to people of color eventually. If you continue far enough in their conversation someone says the dreaded phrase it's class not race at which point the only reasonable responses to get up from the table and walkway and so it's all of those things and you can say that there's a particular kind of analysis of that in a needs to happen. But i also think talking my students about this. That getting someone's perspective is not necessarily equate agreeing that this person is right. Yeah so there are objective things like outside of the kind of policy things. I've people know my politics is not hard to know my politics as a david editor of the new yorker. Says you know your politics would be hidden on your sleeve In so people where. I'm coming from. But i thought i had a kind of working understanding of the ground rules of american politics which trump blew up. So do we really need to understand people sympathetically how they were able to reconcile donald trump making fun of disabled reporter. He did that at the very beginning of his political career. He did and that people were okay with that. And is it necessary to understand how people are okay with things like firing inspector generals who had just there to prevent corruption. They're not there to advance anyone's interest anyone's partisan agenda but to make sure that we do not have corruption and wrought within the government just fundamental basic things. We can say we disagree about where the furniture should be placed in the house or what kind of furniture we should have or even if we should have this house. We can debate all those things. We can't debate is whether or not you get to knock down a load bearing wall and so what you see the person gleefully kicking holes in the wall the reaction should be. We have to stop this from happening. As opposed to well we have to understand why people want to collapse this wall in politics. The thinking probably goes for the pragmatic people as you said at the beginning. Very wisely you know had joe biden win. He got more votes. You've got more votes than the other guy. And if the enterprise in politics is getting more votes than the other guy you gotta figure out why some so many votes went to the other guy last time so you can steal some of them back. Sure yeah i mean. I think that's fine. If it were framing this in the sense of kind of analysis that happens anytime you have an election. I think the bigger cultural point of the not about that. So here we are. We're thankfully saying the by president. Trump's scandals and incompetence we're in the midst midst of getting vaccinated. We're continuing to grapple with inequality in all its forms and we're on the precipice of a biden harris administration for those of who have lost loved ones this year to covid nineteen or any other tragedy. We send support and love your way for those of you who are written to us with your questions your stories your activism and your ideas. We thank you for your engagement. 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"Hello podcast listeners. Noah here with an important message before the show. The new york times is reporting that the dominion voting systems corporation filed the lawsuit this week against rudy giuliani. Donald trump's lawyer seeking damages of more than one billion three hundred million dollars which damages were extensively caused when giuliani spread quote unquote demonstrably false statements about dominion in an effort according to the times quote to enrich himself through legal fees and his podcast and quote apparently saying over and over on his podcast that dominion voting systems was created by venezuelan marxist strongman yugoslavia's who died in two thousand and thirteen in order to distort election results increased the number of people who listen to giuliani's podcasts. So much that giuliani could then sell hundreds of millions. Maybe billions of dollars worth of advertisements. Here listen to a bit of how giuliani pulled off this podcast. 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We have incontrovertible evidence that you go shah says working with vladimir zilenski hillary clinton jimmy hoffa the lindbergh baby and the rand corporation funded by george soros tampering as we speak with american voting machines also with those little paper slips that we put in envelopes here to vote in israel as a listener of the podcast. All we ask of you is that you tell everyone you know. Especially if you know the marketing director of cigar companies or really. Any purveyor of fine smokes. And i'm smoking a cigar in the studio right now. Man is at smooth to listen to the promise. Podcast which is really the only place you'll hear about this important story now onto the show. This is is to be one. This episode may contain explicit language. The promised podcast brought to you on. T. lv one. The voice of the city that was just judged by the generally considered authoritative for such matters london-based credit broker money dot co dot uk to be the sixth healthiest city in the world which may not sound so impressive in who you remember that according to the generally considered authoritative for such matters world forum. There are over ten thousand cities now the health magicians at money. Dot co dot. Uk meticulously evaluated the health of these ten thousand or so cities using what i take to be standard protocol with eight parameters one obesity. Too life expectancy three crime for pollution. Five healthcare six cost of one. Kilo of apple's seven safety and eight yearly sunlight hours in this last category tel aviv did especially well with three thousand three hundred and thirty one sunlight hours per annum compared to say just one thousand six hundred sixty two in amsterdam although oddly madison wisconsin the highest rank american city on the list at number thirty eight is said to have three thousand four hundred fifteen hours of yearly son more than tel aviv. Somehow on the deficit side in only two cities in the top forty are apples more expensive than in tel aviv. Where they cost two euros. Ninety one cents per kilo and in all other categories tel aviv. Pretty well never great but always good but then health is all about the balance and it is our not bad on balance score that makes us the healthiest city on earth. Save for valencia madrid lisbon vienna and camera by the way tel aviv. Total index score is two thousand sixty six only ten points or zero point four percent behind camera. Which has a good deal less pollution than we do but on the other hand has a thirty one point three eighty index compared with televisa. Moore's felt score of seventeen. And i guess my point is if you happen to be listening from canberra. Maybe have that third beer and you know what would go. Good with that nachos. That would go good with that. I'm just saying you only live once and arguably nothing captures the wholesome vibe of this city. We love so well better than a british credit broker. Deploying a team of their best research scientists only to discover that nine thousand nine hundred and ninety four cities on earth are less healthy than we are in that only five are more healthy and even those only a smidge mostly because of the price of apples. Which if you ask me you get what you pay for anyway. All of which gives new meaning to what i can only assume we'll be our new municipal slogan come because of our day to day pleasures. Stay because of our life expectancy of eighty two point eight years which is four point. Three more years than you'll get in madison wisconsin batches with us in the studio though in the studio behind my back. The little capsules today is a woman. Who's lovely lyrical writing. And this is true ads. Not just years to our life. Life to our years. I refer of course to alison captain. Summer allison is written for politico. The new republic foreign policy that use some posted ata the forward and many other of your very best papers magazine. She is a columnist for you have heard her on. Npr pri the bbc and you have seen her on. I twenty four television just recently. In fact an on aljazeera tv alison hold a world center award for journalism recognizing. Excellence in the reportage. Any simon rocked our award for excellence and covering zionism and israel. Saying how you doing okay. I have to report. I lived in tel aviv. For two years of my life. In those two years. I gained twenty five pounds. So you know the the whole competition thing about wanting to canberra people that there's just too much good food in tel aviv. That's the problem even still. There's probably plenty of good food and cameron you there in canberra. I think gone. That has been thrown down by alison. You can gain more weight also with us here in our tel aviv. Studio is a man who considering that the average age of the folks on the podcast. Just this week is somewhere in. The mid forties looks really fabulous young spry. how he doesn't obviously. I referred to ohio. Shelters who beat ohio shelters beata is a book reviewer for our. He writes for offscreen magazine and has written fiction for granted in the past ohad hosted a weekly show on halloween. Tv on arts and culture in israel. He is admired for his genius. Loved for his warm human decency and nbc firs effortless. Cool ohad how you doing. I'm doing okay. It feels like every time. I come on the podcast sunshine so i don't know exactly what the causation or correlation is. But but it's good vine around though i do have to say the weather forecast. Is that when we leave. The studio will be pouring Yeah you leaving that. It's always always when you're gone now as for me. My name is noah front. And i don't mean to boast but i was hectoring my boy this week about something. I don't remember exactly what and i ended by saying am i wrong and the boy said quote. I'll answer you with a line from the big lebowski. You're not wrong walter. You're just an asshole iraq. You're not wrong. Am i wrong. You're not wrong walter. You're just an asshole. And i don't mean to brag because that's not the way that i was raised but i think deep down my children respect me. I mean really really deep down this week. We have three topics of enormous importance. But first we have another matter in memoriam. The last surviving. What student charge of yaish quarterback this week in tel aviv. His name was you talked. Belfair number fourteen smolensk in just down the hill from my super solemn ben yehuda a little over a commodore from where i live before that for thirty eight years he lived gordon. Nine a block or two over even closer to us and before that he lived in a shipping crate in mock. Loule the neighborhood at the southern tip of where i run where the carlton hotel is now. This week watching videos of belfer. I knew that i knew him though. I didn't know where from. And i finally figured out what it is and what it is. Is that a few years back. We struck up a conversation waiting together to get cheese sliced at the dairy counter in the super bowl though at the time he was to me just available guy with a polish accent. Belfer was basically raised by yaish core shack and stefania or steph will In the orphanage they ran on crock. Mal street in warsaw. Pneumonia took his father high when he was four and after that his mother there had a hard time caring for a six kids. The youngest miriam was born after high died and the family moved in with her folks who are themselves not well off. Her father had a carton horse. He offered out for day labor and together. The three generations struggled esther sleeping on the hard shelf of the fireplace before his seventh birthday. Esther took huck belfer in his chabad close to the orphanage on on the street where core shak wasted him on his lap and as the adults talk belfer played with core cortex beard and glasses after a time as mother said i am going home. It's cockle you are saying here. Cortec introduced belfer to his appropos. His mentor or guardian. And named josie whose job it was to show belford the ropes when belfry got there were one hundred and seven kids. Fifty one boys and fifty six girls occupying four floors of the house. The youngest was seven and the oldest was fifteen after that you are no longer eligible to stay and because there was so much demand rule was set in place that only one child per family could come. The house was managed. Almost alone by steph will chance sky and quarterback to adults responsible for one hundred seven children and this was possible because it was their view their philosophy that kids could manage their own. Lives new arrivals required the approval by referendum of the kids already living in the house and belfer a strong willed kid not giving the compromise with put on probation by the other kids for a long year before he was finally accepted. The orphan house was run according to a constitution written and amended as needed by the quote unquote children's independent governing council whose members were elected for one year terms of office. The constitution was enforced by the quote unquote. Children's court presided over by a rotating panel of five kid judges who were selected by lottery each week before kabul chabad at ten o'clock every saturday morning assembly was convened. As a matter of tradition. It started with course at greeting out loud. The orphan house newspaper which was written and edited by the kids. Although of course had a regular column then court would convene anyone had a right to bring charges against anyone in those usually. The adults who brought to justice belfer wants successfully sued and adult orderly for rebuking him sharply and without adequate grounds. Its belfer turned sixteen and aged out of the orphans house. Just when the germans took warsaw he wants his grandfather held by one german soldier while another roughly clipped off his beard later. He said that the way he was raised by core shock and we'll chen ska. He had no experience like most kids had of living without power and dignity of authority unaccompanied by reason and he found that he had no talent for this tolerance. He and a friend from the orphans house resolved fleet stock which the russians had taken before they left. They went to court shack one last time at crock milena street not long before. The germans forced the orphanage to move into the ghetto. Course hugged the boys and said the nestlings are leaving. They're flying from their nest. Then he took what cash she had in his pockets and gave it to the boys on the russian side of the border belfer worked as a coal miner in the euro mountains and then was drafted into a cavalry regiment of the red army. After the war in nineteen forty-six he went back to warsaw on. Learned that everyone was gone after that. He wandered to czechoslovakia austria. Italy where he joined a group scheduled to sail to haifa on a ship called afoul pin which was captured by. The brits and everyone on it was sent to cyprus. Where belfer was interred for two years where he took lessons from the famous polish israeli sculptor and but solo professors have been s- fee who had been sent from palestine to teach art to survivors at the dp camp. After the brits freed the prisoners in cyprus belfer came to israel and joined the idea as a driver when he got out in nineteen fifty moved to tel aviv and took a job working for the city as a driver. Driving and painting was what he knew and enrolled in the avni institute of art and design in the city. An article in the daily paper from this time made a thing of this dual life. It was headlined by day. He drives by night he paints but the belfort was just his life in one thousand nine sixty one fell in love with a woman named rosa or show she bohana from azadegan in morocco and they married and soon they had a kid named higham for belfort's father belfer set of raising the kid quote. The doctors doctrine is my guiding principle. Meaning dr yang cornerback. Our home is managed according to the spirit of humanity. End quote higham. Belfour said he was raised by his father as his father was raised by quarterback with reason not authority he was never spoken down to never patronized as an artist. Bofors career was divided into periods by two visitations at the beginning he painted landscapes and still lives what all painters paint belfer said. And then in the nineteen fifties images started coming to him first dreams of germans and poles and jews and then he started painting them. The color is draining from his palette until all his work was all black white and grey at alexi gave at the premiere of an exhibition in germany. A man asked him. If there wasn't a contradiction maybe even a fraud to belfort painting holocaust scenes as he himself left before the deportations and mass killings began and belfer said that he saw the scenes over and over and over again in his mind his family and everybody knew being loaded onto the trains later. Belfer found himself without ever making a conscious choice to do it. Painting quarterback and bill chan scott and the orphans over and over again. He collected these paintings into a travelling exhibit. And later he wrote and illustrated a memoir and then a children's book about quarterback and then he illustrated a kids version of course acts own famous book about a kid. King matt the first then belfour found. He did not just want to paint. He wanted to be a teacher like quarterback he gave art classes through the union for city workers then he started teaching at tel aviv's people university. I will never saw a meet in. Nineteen eighty-three he quit. Driving for the city and worked full time teaching and painting teaching. Is everything belfer said. A couple of years ago belfort told the writer yaacov bar own that it was his great regret that shack the twentieth century's most brilliant educator had left so small a mark quote. He created a new way of teaching. But it is not used today. He said he should've left a greater mark about which two things first some years ago in the hebrew university course on children's literature the professor. Our old camp mentor and friend. Steve copeland assigned quarterbacks math. The first and promise the class that the next week there would be a visiting lecturer an expert on the themes of the book a week past and after the students took their seats in the classroom. The door opened and a ten year old boy walked in a ha- copland said you thought that an expert has to be an adult with a degree. I brought you a real expert. The kid talked about the book for an hour afterwards answering questions. His name was avi noam rosenheck today. He is himself a professor of education. Second the last lines of belfort's memoir read quote. My son served in the army for twenty two years and was discharged as a lieutenant. Colonel a naval officer and engineer in rarely navy. One day he said to me dad. I do not wish to continue working as an engineer and a manager. I want to be a teacher and an educator. I was moved with emotion and educator in my eyes is sacred. I am proud and quote on the website of the gymnasia herzliya high school where varada lavigne's students can sign up for a directed. Reading course that considers the question quote will virtual currency one day diminish the centralization of the banks end quote among the mentor. Teachers is high in belford the third generation in a dynasty of mentor. Teachers following yanni's quarterback and needs cock belfer. May their memories be for blessings today. Three topics topic one new labor again as just four weeks ago. Here on the podcast. We rather eulogized the labor party saying it was sad to see it go but maybe it was for the best and in any case. There ain't much to be done about it this week. The elected a new charismatic proudly leftist proudly feminists most definitely old Ashkenazi new chair may rob me. How elliot and in the day. Since the party has quintupled showing in the polls and social media is a buzz with excitement. Who is really really will ask. And what might the labor party become under her leadership topic to acting big as prime minister. Netanyahu and finance minister eastern cats unveiled this week. A huge nine step relief and stimulus program including giving most of us a little. Something something in cash the by yourself. Something nice experts in the finance ministry and bank of israel complained. They never had a chance at the plan and lots of people are calling it. Nothing more than a contemptible and transparent effort to buy votes with cash. But then people are suffering and some are having trouble paying for diapers and hummus. And it'd be cruel to tell them. Wait until after the election. So we'll wonder. Is there any good way to make big economic moves fifty four days before an election and topic. Three how will we come out of this as the weekend. Financial magazine video. Daca wrote ran a special edition last weekend that they called. How will we come out of this. About how life will of changed when the corona stops being all consuming from work to shopping the school to vacations two planes trains and automobiles. And we'll wonder the same thing each of us from our vantage and for our most unreasonably generous patrons supporters in our extra special special extra discussion. The linked which you can find on your show notes in your podcast app or at patriotair slash promised podcast on the world wide web. We'll discuss a question that was rolling around in my mind all day yesterday as we record which was the quote international day of commemoration in memory of the victims of the holocaust. Quote the question being what does it mean to have to holocaust days one yesterday for the world and not for us and one for us but not for the rest of the world would be better off if they were somehow combined but before we get to any evac. Listen to this called shit show who She shoe that is a by il-il whom will be listening to over the course of the show. And now it's time for our first discussion. So alison will may ravioli. Give the labor party what my grandmother used to call a new leash on life so yeah just a short four weeks ago although every day seems like a year these days It was on new year's day. Actually so we found ourselves here in the t. v. one studios having a discussion as to whether or not the labor party needed a do not resuscitate order whether there was any kind of future for this For this political party that a cliche goes built. The nation at the time amir peretz who was elected head of the labor party a year and a half earlier and had led the party through three pretty disastrous elections. And then straight into netanyahu's national unity government. He had just resigned the polls. Were predicting that the party would win. About twenty five thousand votes. That's zero point seven percent of the total. That's about one fifth of the number of votes that it would need even to pass the minimum electoral threshold and get into the knesset at all so it was natural that we like most of the rest of the country or asking ourselves if it wasn't time for the labor party to shuffle off the mortal coil and We should give it a proper burial. What we said at the time. Is that the party. Had you know many accomplishments to its name in the past tangible emotional assets that could maybe allow it to rebuild itself but at the same time it had liabilities that might be too big to overcome in the end. We were all skeptical at the party could and would and should survive so the short clips from four weeks ago kind of summarizes what we were concluding about the labor party feeding demised. It's post on. It has ceased to be it's expired and gone to see it's makeup. It takes enough to live in peace down the curtain and joined the choir invisible. No that's like the most cogent analysis i've ever heard you give you sound great. Yeah it has a certain something new to it. So this past sunday labor has held primaries for its thirty seven thousand eligible members not an impressive number to select a replacement for amir parrots party chair surprisingly eight candidates through their hats into the ring. Parrots lobbied hard against mirow miaoli for a guy named avi shy head who made his fortune creating the online gambling website. Eight eight dot com. We all know that well right. Another candidate was guil- balin whose father you'll see. Belan was a labor minister architect of the oslo accords. And later the chair of merit's so in the end a longtime member of knesset who i just mentioned mirow mickael won the election by a landslide. She was by far the most visible candidate. She was actually the one that most people were at all conscious of of the nine thousand. Six hundred and fifty one votes cast. She won seven thousand. Four hundred and thirty one of them seventy seven percent Shaq head had one thousand. Eight hundred and forty-one votes or nineteen percent balin had a big two hundred and twenty-nine votes or two point four percent. The other five candidates split the remaining fraction one hundred and fifty votes between them so highly was triumphant. Obviously in her victory she noted cabela's percent of the vote. She carried seventy seven. Was the precise here in which the labor party i lost. Control of the government to menachem. Begin's could this she said was surely a sign that a new political revolution to write that historical wrong was now underway. So it would be easy to dismiss michaela's win and the likelihood that she can revive the labor party and lots of people have done just that dismiss it the vote totals and the primary sound kind of like the totals in a hard fought election for high school president than they do for the party. That for twenty nine years ruled the country. What's more as feffer wrote. It's being the head of the labor party in this millennium is quote the worst job in israeli politics and one that michaela got only because quote. No other politician wants to be remembered as the leader under whose watch labor failed to get into the knesset altogether still immediately after missile was elected. A poll showed that labor would pass the minimum threshold for the first time. In eleven months social media exploded with praise for the new labour leader who it must be pointed out has maintained a really high profile on social media throughout her political career. She has forty-three thousand followers on instagram heads of other small centre-left parties. Is there any other kind of center left party. These days said off the record that they would be eager to negotiate a joint run with labor miaoli issued a video plea full of power and pesos. Asking past labour. Party's to return home to the party. She said they lied to you in the past but it wouldn't happen on her watch the next day. She tweeted a video in which she said quote. My first decision as chair of the labour party is of course that the labor party is quitting the corrupt johnston yao government the worst government in the history of the country a few minutes ago. I informed amir parents and it's extremely that they must immediately resigned from their positions in the government. The labor party is starting a new shortly afterwards. Parrots announced that he was leaving. The labour party's maroma haley is quite phenomenon. She is her own thing for the last eight years. She's been in the knesset before that she was an opinion columnist with arts. She is a feminist. Who kind of singlehandedly. Trying to revolutionize the hebrew language she uses the generic female. She always uses female back and forth. It's something that seemed very very weird and difficult to Deal with that first but people have gotten used to it. I think in a country and a culture crazy about having children. She said long ago that she never intends to have children. She has long written and spoken and demonstrated against occupation. Her life. partner is the comedian host of a scorched earth. very leftist. very funny satiric show his name. Is leon shlein. And the couple maintain two apartments one atop the other very simone. Debu voire style. She wears black only black black uniform She opens her extra wide when she speaks. She exudes charisma. And uh somehow kind of warmth she is a very different creature. I have to add Than the merav highly. That i met in the first year i made aliyah to israel in one thousand nine hundred eighty three. If you want to hear the gossip you can ask me about in the discussion. You guys There's a tradition in the knesset. That went a new m. k. Makes her maiden speech she chooses. Another member of knesset to respond when mikhail took to the day us in the knesset planning on march fifth. Two thousand thirteen. She began with this. She said on wednesday morning. July third nineteen forty four zionist jew in a suit stood in adolf ackman's office in budapest. Your nerves seem shot. Ackman said to him. Maybe i'll send you on a little vacation and auschwitz. The zionist jew stood before him unfazed his pocket. A box lit up a cigarette. An equal among equals. That man was dr israel kastner. He was in the room because he was negotiating with adolf other nazi officers and in this way saved tens of thousands of jewish women and men from extermination after that he came to israel and was a candidate. For the knesset from the workers. Party renzo kastner was my grandfather. She said but did not say. But everyone basically already knew was that renzo kastner stood trial in israel for negotiating nazis and that a judge determined that he had quote sold his soul to the devil fifty six years and two days before allie was sworn in castro was assassinated by a jewish hit squad in front of his house a year after that the supreme court exonerated caster posts humorously to respond to her speech chose moshe gafni from the ultra-orthodox torah judaism party gafni said that he highly came from different almost opposite worlds but that they disagreed about almost nothing and now michaela is the head of the labor party so you guys what kind of leader will she be. Can she save the labor party from what we thought was. Maybe it's inevitable death. Could she be the woman at the right time to make a difference. I think she exactly is i. M not merely isn't my cup of tea politically. I wouldn't go running after her into a political battlefield she's not. She's not my kind of leftist israel. And i think that's exactly the reason she just might be. The labour. party's last hope. I think that differently to pets before. Her and gaba by before that i think that monogamy is exactly what the labor party needs to survive which is just some of its own a blood transfusion of its own blood. I mean she is exactly the face of the labor party which is which is to say that the labor party is no longer the party of the country. It's no longer a potential ruling party. The labor party is at best. A niche party in each party for oschkenat's the upper middle class maybe moshav imke booth team old leftist and in this case. Also how is it different than merit than so. That's exactly what i'm saying. I that if until now. The strategy of labor was to take votes from the center center. Right even you know from gala from ben gone. That was there that was their playing field. I think that madoff missile is just put the labor party in a new playing field the plainfield of the left and i think that if they're going to take votes from anyone right now it's maybe the little parties that that were high in the polls now have gone under because of her. But it's from mets as well with needs on holidays like aiming his campaign. Is this awful mets campaign anti-holiday sentiments in like in like the the liberal ashkenazi left. Madonna kylie. has this feminist social democratic agenda. That just might bring a lot of people in like You talked about the social media being in a craze like my social media is increase like people especially young women really look up to move clearly with good reason. She is a true feminist like fighter. Parlimentarian she's been really really really. She stuck to this for years and and and i just think that she just might be just might be the thing that can save the labor party from like from its imminent. Doom revive is something new something kind of old and also kind of new. Yeah it is. There is something to what you're saying that she is a lot more like what the labor party used to be in what i have been convinced for time had to change if the labor party was going to survive and i get what you're saying and i think that you might be right that maybe what the labor party needs to do is in a way doubled down in its best version with its base and mirow michaela does seem to be the absolute best version. I can imagine of the traditional labor party person. I was a little bit struck in her very very first speech on sunday night after she had just been elected. She said you now. It's time to remember. She called for for voters to return to the labour party. We understand why you've left. You were lied to. please come back. This is the party that built the country. This is the party that built the army. This is the party that built the hospitals and the healthcare system. She said all these things and i was waiting for her to say and this the party that committed these historic wrong too many populations of immigrants that came and this is the party that built the settlements and now we regret that but she didn't she stopped there and she just was talking about the things that she was proud of in the labor party and it was a little bit jarring to hear someone be unapologetic again about that after after several leaders of the labour party avi gob by in a way who apologized for the labor hardee's past and i'm your parents who also apologized and they were both miserable. Came here comes. This is woman and so it's interesting. Maybe she will. I i by the way finder enormously attractive. I have partly because she is the hardcore real liberal left who does not automatically reject religious people like she is utterly condescending to religious people. She says i don't. I do not believe in the goddess. She says but i understand that there are people that do and i respect that and there are a lot of things we have to learn from the religious which almost makes me want to cry hearing that from a leftist family for a family history. I think our family history was pretty was pretty anti religious going back three or four generations. Actually so i think attorney we sort of hear that song before though with shelia imamovic she was also a female labour leader and she was also. Listen i'm into social welfare. We have so much in common with the ultra-orthodox and she was also very much into an alliance with not so new things that they're quite similar because to me they feel very different or at least this i had a. I had an automatic recoil from the come over to seem to me to be mean spirited. And it's the opposite of my reaction to mirow me ellie who seems to me to be warm hearted but that oughta mean nothing to anyone almost means nothing to me but that was my reaction. You think they're quite similar. Listen so. I talked about Knowing i've known for over twenty five years personally and i'm like fascinated by the transformation. She's she's undergone. A lot of people obviously are aware because she's done it publicly but as a young woman out of army radio. Pioneer is really television. She was like the picture of the provocative tv girls famous for being famous and charismatic. And chatty and she ate with her fingers and she wore really short skirts and really low cut tops and like she's got you know she had at that point charm and charisma four and it was just you know in a in a different way so over the years. She got a political awakening when she got involved in battered women shelters she started writing serious columns for haret's but the complete. It was almost like she took a vow. Like a nun. She wears only black long pants long sleeve shirts she pulls her hair back and in a way. It's like a little disappointing. That she is like. She's had to defend nyse herself. In order to be taken seriously but on the other hand it worked so all of this led me at first to think that like you know. Is this sort of a gimmick hershey playing the role of a serious politician. I've earned the respect for her over the years as i've seen you know the legis the legislature not only the charismatic speeches and the great social media presence but backed up by the legislation Shelly back to the shelley. Your mortgage Thing is she is going to now have to take the shot a mortgage test in that We know that she appears while she speaks while she ever but can she run a party. Will she run these primaries. And how is she going to run the election so we know she's a good politician. We know she's a good Legislator and so now we're going to see if she's a good party leader and as we've pointed out she's got this huge challenge of not just leading a party but trying to like sort of like You know give it. Cpr and and And and really really revive it so as you see. I've got a little bit more about skeptical. View of her and history of her but But you know maybe she is. She's kind of like a less like yucky mortgage than i would compare to your lupita except ya decided to leapfrog all of the years of working in the trenches of a party and just you know go. I'm number one. And i'm going to be the star and so Mckay elliot's taking the that same kind of television charisma popular thing that lapierre has except that she's you know she's added content to it before she's She's ascended to the leader of a party to things To finish off the first thing is that i spoke with a friend of mine who was a member of the labour party for years and he was very active in campaigning. And he said he's from the campaign asked him about. I've said for years. I was very wary of her. Because she and shelly. Don't get along which is really interesting I i don't know exactly why and how it seems like a personal thing more than anything else and to finish. I wanna talk about the about the apologetic Vibe i think that's exactly the point. I think that the labor party tried to ring in musically leaders. It really tried to be apologetic for the things that didn't in. Its past and it just didn't work now. I'm seeing from a completely one hundred percent. Pundit point of view not from the point of view of a person that would actually go in like vote for labour that from from a strategic point of view. What he's doing is exactly right. Because the other ways completely failed and rallying the base basically she's rallying back to the base that went to that went to that voted for many gone instead of labor party in the last past few elections and trying to bring them back. And i think it's authentically her to yeah. Now listen to this I can because ally thank god Meeting that amigo the gun. Ed then by Hillel and now. It's time for our second discussion so ohio. Is there anything wrong with the government. Giving each of us a little something something to titus over during this difficult time. So prime minister netanyahu and finance ministry slide cuts held a press conference in the knesset this week to unveil a huge nine step relief and stimulus initiative as eight steps would have been too few. That's how serious economic challenges intense steps which was just too many steps man. Ten stein is exactly no on the nose. The key is to keep matters in proper proportion. I always say so. Prime minister netanyahu began by quoting janet. Yellen president joe biden's nominee for us treasury secretary who said recently that quote with interest rates at historic lows. The smartest thing we can do is act big and quote. That's what the netanyahu cots plan. Does then cats came to the podium and described the nine steps one grants for businesses depending on how big they are but averaging thirty thousand shekels or nine thousand two hundred. Us dollars per business to grants for citizens seven hundred fifty shekels for anyone earning less than thirteen thousand shekels a month five hundred shekels for each tot three cash incentives for unemployed folks to take even low paying jobs with the government making the income. They'll lose for at least four months for cash for folks with disabilities five leading small businesses. Hold on to the value added tax. They say for a time to ease their cash flow problems six cheap quick business loans seven extending unemployment benefits to self employed people slashing regulation on small businesses and finally the number nine massive government spending on infrastructure and other capital investments. That will get money into the economy returning to the podium prime minister netanyahu smiled with satisfaction and said of the program quote. I'd say yes we can. Why netanyahu said quote because we're winners and quote when it came time for reporters to ask questions the first one was isn't this just election economy meaning basically bribing voters to vote for you with free money distributed weeks before the election pm. Netanyahu miffed said look at president. Biden's one point nine. Trillion dollar relief. Plan is that quote unquote election economy. No and what we're suggesting is much less than that quote. Why is this election economy because it helps israeli citizens and quote. Netanyahu asked the press conference and the relief package were met with nearly universal condemnation. The career servants working in the finance ministry peaked said that they learned of the plans existence on the tv at the same time. Everyone else did. The plan had not been vetted much less devised by the professional economists. The bank of israel said that giving away piles of money indiscriminately is not sound economic policy. It was leaked that the attorney general opposed the plan because he sees it as an attempt to unduly influence elections which opposition. The prime minister rejects the principle already at the press conference. Netanyahu said quote. Why is this an election economy. What is it corona stopping. Are you going to tell me. Wait a minute. Stop giving vaccines. That's an election economy. Don't bring vaccines. Maybe the attorney general. We'll tell me how many vaccines to bring. How many not to bring. It's an election economy. We will never consider harming the health and the lives of israeli citizens because there are elections. And i won't consider someone wants to honda livelihood and welfare of israeli citizens and businesses because there are elections. This is not an election economy. it's an essential need end quote and that is our question as record. There are fifty four days until elections should the prime minister and the government be required to make no big moves during these fifty four days because at this moment in time it is very difficult to tell big moves from well election bribes but still. This is a moment that demands big moves. So how do we square this lopsided circle. Allison so you know the the eternal answer. why not. both it is both an essential need and A election gimmick. It's both at the same time. It's something that That that should be done should have been done in a way. It's a correction of The first decision to To offer stimulus compensation for the damage of krona virus which was to widely spread across the entire population and not enough Pinpointed at the people who are actually Suffering from it but You know i think I think people who who who want it done should still supported and not Not take something that's That that's a step that should be taken not oppose it simply because it's super duper clear that the timing of it is in order to serve Netanyahu's political needs but You know underneath the rhetoric of of netanyahu grandstanding against you. Know the clerks and the deep state and you know he's trying to He's trying to do something. Good in the officials are are trying to fight it. Th that's also part of the part of the election game. But i can't not support it just because it's being proposed by the wrong person at the wrong time. I think you're exactly right. Alison i th. I mean there's no question. That netanyahu is aware that this is going to help him in the elections. And i think that it's reasonable to assume that that's part of his motivation as well but i don't know if we need to care that much about what his motivations are if there are people that desperately need this and a what struck me i. I heard the un cry against this. The the first thing. I saw all the headlines saying that the that this was further corruption. On netanyahu's part and he was buying the election. But then when i looked at the numbers i seven hundred and fifty shekels per person is really pretty modest and it's only people who are earning less than thirteen thousand a month which cuts out you know. The the richest third of the population had at the very least. We just learned that there are two million people below the poverty. Line the distance last week in israel the highest number in a in the country's history so giving those people cash just seems like a like something that needs to be done and netanyahu the this corona is mostly bad for netanyahu and somewhat good for netanyahu leaders around the world like every every country has a leader. Who's trying to figure out how best to manipulate the situation to improve their popularity. That's partly how politics works. And netanyahu is just like that. It's true and it's particularly acute because we have an election coming. But i don't see how you can do anything but say that this is okay and yet alison until i heard you say that. I don't think that i'd heard a single journalist or pundits say that they're all just immediately said no because this is corruption. It needs to be stopped. I just my caveat is that you know the the spending money that we don't really have and so you know in the future if because of this we have to. You know have more cuts in hospitals schools etc. You know this is. It's still money and it still a decision to spend money this way so So we are borrowing into the future. Sure we just need to ask the money be taken from the rich instead of from hospital budgets Because we all agree on this. It seems i'll take two different points. I think that one point is that's interesting to point out is that this is like a complete win win for bbc no matter what if the attorney general cancels this program or or or says it's unlawful because of Election economy than bb wins. Because he says hey look the attorney general is trying to help you look again. The court the judicial system and the attorney general is stopping. You from helping you. My people yada yada yada and if it goes through. It's a win easily. The second thing is i'm not too quick to To feel for all the the treasury clerks and all of these You know mr economy. People speaking on behalf of the economy outta yada these people are are are very very neoliberal. Very neoliberal they hate public spending. They don't like taxation they especially don't like progressive tax and they speak on behalf of this this this this this thing this this theoretical entity which is called the economy and a lot of times they speak on behalf of the economy while forgetting that the economy actually means people putting food in their mouths and having enough money to buy drugs or turn on the light or turn on the heater when they're cold at night so like fuck them all i if people need to know seriously people need money to get food in their mouth and that means that we need to tax the rich in six months than all of the clerks and the treasury can can you know where they can go in my opinion and they need to sit down and be quiet while people get money to put food in their mouths with all due respect to all the phd economists working for the finance ministry and for the bank of israel. I think we need more ten-year-old they would give a different answer now. Listen to this This muslim so different. Good muslim post a is very performed by hillel with santo more. And now it's time for a third discussion which we are calling. How well we come out of this. And here's why the weekend financial magazine of Akra note ran a special edition this past weekend that they called. How will we come out of this. About how life will have changed. When the coronas ceases to be all consuming the financial section of by the way is called mamoun or mamen in english which every single week reminds me that jesus said you cannot serve both god and mammon which the second and third century church father tortellini explained by saying that it referred to jews who are friends of mammon and it seems like is saying yeah. That's about right. We love us some good mammon. But i digress. At first i was shocked to see the garland of nine articles inviting us to cast ourselves beyond the corona. But there's some sense to it. A quarter of all israelis actually by now almost a half of all israelis have gotten the first shot of the vaccine and four million new doses. Arrive just this week. Johnson johnson is about to unveil their vaccine biden is planning to vaccinate between one hundred and a hundred and fifty million americans by the end of passover though. He doesn't put it that way. Prime minister netanyahu has said that we will be able to have a big passover. Seder here each of us with young and old around the same table. So maybe it's okay to begin wondering what this will all be like. When it's over now a clarification for the evil. I if you happen to be listening to this and we know that you are. We have nothing but respect for your work in your powers we are not presumptuously assuming that our fate is in our own hands nor are we assuming that the future will necessarily be kind to us if anything we are saying through to bluetooth through but i the man articles cover the following areas transportation in which the author udi is his name wonders if public transportation will ever return to life or whether it will be worried about being smushed together in tight spaces ad infinitum. Another article about shopping in which shanahan wonders whether malls will survive after we have learned to love local shops though one in four of these local shops have been any instance closed during the corona also. Online shopping will be a much. Bigger part of our lives. Won't it another article has to do with. Prices would seem to have increased a good deal on food and appliances another has to do with travel where international travel may no longer hold the attractions that it did at least so. The article said medicine where virtual doctors appointments may replace sitting in waiting rooms in the future. Lots of other jobs may also become virtual or be phased out altogether restaurants which may enter a golden age. According to an article about restaurants and more all of which i have to say sparked my imagination and got me thinking about how my life and our lives might be different when this is all over and we're not futurist or anything so i want to keep it close to home. Alison you are a journalist and hot and i. We are university types. So my first question is do. We think that either of these professions will be a great deal different in six months or a year. Were in three years. Then i wanna ask us to think about how we live. Our day to day lives where we shop. What we by how we spend our free time how we spend our money whether it will travel the same do we use. Public transportation will be flying abroad as often where we go to restaurants in the same way where we'll we vacation in the same place after all mammon is our friend so let's ask the question that mammon asks. How will we come out of this. Alisyn will journalism be different a year from now than it was a year ago. Well journalism came into the pandemic like already in financial crisis. And so you know cutting cutting cutting in trying to Trying to reduce costs as much as possible. So you know this can Can only accelerate it more. They were already getting rid of offices and having more people work from home You know we all miss the old fashioned newsroom. Where everybody you know sat together and worked on their stories and consulted with each other and have the what the cross pollination was very valuable and so now we're more you know even more so factionalized out in our own Different different little homes. You know doing everything individually is why. I love the podcast because we all You know actually come Come together For it Like the zoom interview where you are face to face interviewing someone without being face to face I think you're gonna reexamine the value of getting on a plane and actually being with that person and accompanying them in order to have those few paragraphs of color of what it's actually like in in And that can be a loss on the other hand. You can use the loss of of that. It is in fact different articles richer in. Did they used to be richer at a time. When you got in your car or you got on a plane and went and actually spoke to somebody in a coffee shop. Well not not so much just the speaking to someone in a coffee shop type of articles but you know actually accompanying them and actually usually you know around it before after the coffee shop where you try to like see them speak at a meeting or see them interact with other people. You can really You can really get a get a good sense of like yeah. I think that articles come out much better when i actually take the trouble to To get in the car and And see the see the person in In see the surroundings especially You know if you're comparing Places you've seen in been before to to ones that That you're seeing now. I do think it's it's a loss In journalism but as. I said it's something that was already happening before because of financial circumstances and i think that's true in a lot of professions that it's just accelerating trends of remote work. That were that were already happening in the first place mohammad. What do you think about universities. I i don't. I don't think academia will change all that much. You know with one serious caveat like it in case distance-learning isn't something that's going to be implemented in the long run like i feel i've i've taken distance classes. I've taught distance classes. I have sat in on distant this since classes. And and they're awful like this is a. It's an awful way to learn. It's an awful way to teach it has. It's like not even close to sitting in a room with people that's near a library or coffee shop and and small talking before and small talking after and making connections and i really think that anybody in his right mind would never let this go on like a day longer than it has to So that's that's the one thing that the thing that i think might change that. I haven't really got to do yet. Except for when i was tagging along with my dad is getting off to conferences like once a month twice a month The world. I think that that just not might make it after after virus at least not in the same way that it was beforehand and and i think that's not that bad like Mostly ecologically wise like less academia people. Getting off to conferences like people will have to find new ways to connect And make like shmooze and network with with their peers In that sense but the thing that scares me like slightly more or to the same extent that distance learning will somehow find a way to to keep happening is like allison said You know budget cuts in in the humanities and social sciences have been a thing for for a while now and And i'm and. I'm just afraid that this will just make that worse like that. There's little there will be less money. The endowment will become smaller and this market of jobs like for for up and coming people. Professors to get tenure. Which is something. That's like almost like winning the lottery. Now we'll just get even even worse he. I think that that probably will happen. I'm concerned about the university. Our dean recently told us that it is his hope that are rector. Excuse me that is his hope that the university will teach half of its courses online after the pandemic and everybody i know who lecturers hates. Hates hates please. You know at least consider teaching one in three of our courses online next year and it is his aim to do it for reasons that i think include. They're all reasonable reasons. One of them is that it's so much cheaper it turns out the do. You don't need to keep up the buildings and grounds and then over time you'll be able to find a lot of other very significant savings in it. I mean there'll be. Fewer faculty won't need offices and all sorts of things that won't need to have that many classrooms. You can have more students you can sell. You can start teaching english and sell your courses abroad all sorts of things that he has in mind but I think that he also believes that. It makes the university accessible people who otherwise couldn't get to it so that if you're a parent with young children and you know you can't give a give a couple of days up to go off to some campus. That's not nearby. You can still participate in courses at night. You know online. I think he has you know until he thinks it that it will democratize the university. But one of the things i feel like i learned from this pandemic. Is that the only things that go on in the university that are worth a damn. This is an exaggeration. But it's not as big an exaggeration as it should be. Are the things that happened around the official stuff so that you have stuff going on in the classrooms but this at that really matters are when the when you eight students hang out afterwards and for half an hour you have this argument about the thing that came up in class and the the atta when somebody gives comes to give a lecture from a different university. The thing that really matters is what happens afterwards when you're hanging out and you're coming up with ideas and you're riffing off things and you're talking to the lecturer and that's also true of conferences. That the only thing that matters is that beer that you have at night like the lectures. You can read those either. You don't need to hear somebody reading something from a paper ever and all of that is exactly the stuff that gets truncated by online. Like if there's something so cruel about how at the end of a course somebody the you do. As a professor press the button and everyone disappears My daughter clued me in and said you know you have to do is come fifteen minutes early stage fifteen minutes late and just keep the camera on you and let people hang out and talk to you and so i've been doing that but it's and is wonderful and it's better than the classes and it's nothing like what happens in real life so i think that that's going to happen and i think it's gonna be a shame and i think that if i feel like it's almost inevitable because in the eyes of many many people. This pandemic has proven that that teaching this way works just fine or at least find enough. Okay but what about other things and just in general because we don't have that much time like what other things in your life. Do you think might be different than they were a year ago. I you know. I just Wonder if he's going to make us more hermits because we've had such less social lives or if we're going to have this huge reaction and it's going to be a nonstop parade of parties orgies and everyone's going to be you know have such a pent up need for for social connection that That you know Restaurants will boom in And and there'll be a million events. I it's going to be interesting to see if we've personally Adjusted our personalities or not an especially. You have a sense about yourself. Do you feel the urge to suddenly spend every night out. Yeah i mean yes and especially travel. I'm going to be a travel maniac. I'm sure when when this is all over for me. The most fascinating question is how. It is shaping younger people. You know who who are in their formative years and who are you know going through crucial life milestones like kindergarten or senior year of high school. Or you know my kids. You know the year after the army Etcetera what is how is this going to affect them. How is it going to shape the future in that way. Because you know we're we're a lot of us will just want to go back to our old habits. But they are. The people whose identities are being formed at this weird weird weird time i think about the social aspect. I found something interesting. I read a good article about this. And the times and then i kind of the of gave words to a feeling that i've had for a while is that our social skills are exactly that they are skills. They're like a muscle. And when you don't move that muscle for a long time it kind of gets weaker. Found myself in all kinds of situations like sitting around with people like my people. My friends that. I haven't seen in a long time. I was really expecting that. And we're sitting around and it's awkward and we're having trouble making conversation and i get. I must patient. I have less fun. think. It's gonna take us like a wild to. I went to sit at a bar on this on the sidewalk when that was still allowed and have a beer. And and i felt like the same way i felt when i landed in southeast asia. For the first time i felt like i was being bombarded like sensually. Yeah people walking around and touching me in an asks was smokey smell smelling cigarette smoke and then a homeless guy walked up and i felt uncomfortable. I felt like i was having a sensory overload and this is a place that i used to frequent like once a week before and this was the thing that made me feel alive like being surrounded with people and it suddenly made me uncomfortable. So that's that. And i think the second thing that's serious is is. I think i'll be eating out less. Like i actually learned how to money reasons or no. No i think. I actually learned how to cook good food like stuff that i needed a restaurant to get good decent food. I know how to make now. So i think i'll be eating out less and better like instead of eating out like on average like i'm like like shame to say this i was like eating out like maybe on average once a day before the pandemic. I think i'll maybe down the twice a week and i go go like and do it. Better like the finer and more fun and make an event out of it and not just like go out to lunch every day. It's like a shitty restaurant just for listeners. Because you can't see. What's happening in to corroborate what was saying about the deterioration of his social skills he's He's in the studio stark naked. Readjusting my sweater vest. Why why am i. Why am i not in studio is doesn't seem to remember this man. You get used to the air flowing. You can't go back. I've telling you think back to the movies or do you want to go see. This is what this is what. i think. It's true that all of us are terrible at predicting what our future selves will be like an. I'm probably the worst of all. But i feel as though the only thing that i have learned about social life from. This is how much. I really love the things that i love which is to say that i feel like i will be going to a concert if i went to a went to like a little show in some club once a week before this i feel like i'll be going twice a week and eating out was never like my big thing but i feel like i'm going to eat out because because i like i suddenly see in. Its full splendor. The the just the pleasures of that of like overhearing a conversation from the table over. It's like so beautiful. What what. And so i feel like i feel like i'm going to be totally there. But i also feel like in those two options that you that you described alison. I feel like it's going to be a nonstop party for wild. Save for the fact that a lot of people don't have as much money as they did. And so i don't know exactly what what that will be like but i think that everyone is going to be out in the streets. If it happens that we when it happens that we can be out in the street and that that includes me too. I feel like Like i have a redoubled appreciation for the night life before that. I already had a pretty big appreciation for including the dumbest political meetings. It's like you know just smelling someone's cigarette smoke. There's something like lovely about that. Yeah i mean you really wonder again. I'm a little obsessed with the with. The kids of the next generation is going to be. Ptsd are they going to be afraid to be in crowds. Because they've been taught at for for a year and a half to two years that it's a dangerous thing to do to be in a in a crowded room with other people you know what. What are they going to Develop into being one thing that i really in relation to kids that i hope hangs around which i unfortunately skeptical is you know. They've had to divide the classrooms into capsules and have had much smaller classrooms in israel which basically turn them into normal sized classrooms and other parts of the world you know fifteen twenty kids instead of forty kids crammed in a room and i think that you know. Everyone sees the difference in these settings of How much better. They're learning in. How much How much better the classroom is. If that was an after effect. I would be thrilled. Now listen to this not behnam a league dude the a Stop a guest god Needs that song. Is it terry build by yakir. You can find him in all the usual places and now it's time for the country segment. This is the part of the show in which each of us described something that might have. Surprised germ used delighted or enchanted in sold or may even fluke this as we win their way through our world over the last little while hod. What is your country. Remember has got the tv show elson raved about last week. That is improbably taken israel by storm. Okay so just in case you. Don't it's a self-described unromantic comedy written by two xs who also star in it. The show's plot is based on said xs experienced starring. Together in a theater plays they wrote about their life as a couple in the rehearsals of which they broke up. I hope i hope that that you got that. You can like we can go back and listen to it again if you need to in the tv show though. They don't star in the play. She's the playwright and he's the director and the break up just as their mutual project is picked up by a prestigious theater. The aptly named show chronicles. The rehearsals of said play house. Vote means rehearsals and hebrew. Now i don't wanna talk about the show itself as alison. Did that better than i could. Because and i can confess here in my english speaking safe-space i tried and i didn't really like it. It's not my preferred brand of humor. Oh really yeah. That's yeah that's an opinion that probably get me stoned not the good kind in public square these days in israel so instead humor humorous character driven. It's not i don't we can. I can go on about this for like five hours of why. It's not funny to me and it's obnoxious and the main reason is because i have to say this as people people look at the show like oh look at these people. They're so grotesque in disgusting. And and i kind of yeah grotesque. They're all lovable. They're lovable because it really really grotesque billion in suits in their grotesque characters and why people feel like they like them oh this is like a really really grotesque like way of looking at myself and as i know people in theater actually behaved ve very realistic to i got flashbacks. Exactly excited like never mind. Whatever instead i wanna talk about one of the shows unexpected ripple effects so first and foremost is shows instant memes. Ation the show quick-witted. One liners are proven to be a treasure trove of meam material and screenshots of especially clever ones have become ubiquitous in my facebook feed. I got an email from students with question before the tests would mean from the whole. That's how ubiquitous they become the most popular of these instant. Memes is a scene specific scene which alas requires another round of background information so the theater that picks up the xs play in. The show is a fictionalized version of the guest. Show theater in yahoos managers actors and directors mostly from what was once the soviet union where the xs actual play had. Its three year. Run the most obvious signal of this inspiration. Is the in my one episode watching opinion best character in the show a stern no nonsense take-no-prisoners very soviet director general of the theater played by the knockout. You've kenya though. Dina and not so loosely based on guess shells actual director-general lena crinoline. Who is loving every second of being fictionalized by the number of interviews. She's been giving now in the tv. Show the play. Being rehearse simultaneously to the xs is a big fancy production of the siegel by the russian playwright. Anton chekhov the theater's resident pretty young popular tv star. Actress desperately wants the role of nina the ingenue in the seagull but gets casted in the exes. Romance comedy play instead. She wants to be taken seriously who've herself as a leading woman and his tired of freely role so one day she waltzes into the director general's office and exclaims. I'm nina to which she dryly replies. You're not this. Scene was arguably the first from the show to be instantly modified so the extent public broadcasting authority which runs the show. Put up a one hour youtube video of the scene on repeat by popular demand. This is what it sounds like. I need i need. I need i need it. Goes on on on on you. Get the point. So theater in israel and especially the big mainstream theaters has been considered almost exclusively pensioneer territory for years in a kind of chicken and egg vicious circle process the theaters turned more and more towards catering to the tastes of their largest audience. Matinee discount ticket pensioners and by doing so if pushed young crowds farther and farther and farther away. But now it looks like a tv series of all things just might change that in what seems to me like a streak of publicity genius in response to the so's popularity in means status lena cleanly the actual director general of the gesher theater has announced that once corona virus restrictions are rolled. Back theater will put up a production of the seagull and that auditions for the coveted. Role of nina will be open to the public. This so meta. It feels like charlie kaufman movie. A theater play spawns a tv show about a theater play which spawns a mean about the tv show which sponsor theater play you. Get that it's great. This is clearly a bid to direct some of the attention. The show has been getting back to the theater. And i in my heart hearts really really hope it works. Gesher is amazing. They have some really really really good productions like the best mainstream theatre in israel. I think and you never know you might just get to see yours. truly onstage. Playing nina are open to the public after all excellent. Allison what is your country. So yesterday was international holocaust. Remembrance day we're going to discuss it At length on our page on segment But over the past few years. I've written several times now. And we've even discussed on the podcast. Some of the controversy sparked by the decision to move a lot of aspects of holocaust remembrance onto the internet and especially onto social media in order to make it more relevant and accessible to To young people in younger generations whether it's good education whether it's a good step for remembering cheapens the memory of those lost in the holocaust so at first it was really hard for us to see things like say instagram featuring the show there was the big debate over eva story that instagram video. Diary of a fictional girl and exactly a year ago. On international holocaust remembrance. Day twenty twenty. I wrote an article for our headlined. Tweeting the holocaust the perils perks of using social media. To remember the show up that article was inspired by the auschwitz birkenau memorial museum watching campaign to get a million twitter followers by commemoration day and the amplification of that campaign by all kinds of celebrities. The museums pr guy told me at the time quote. We were cautious and viewed it as an experiment. We were worried that it would be seen as offensive to put our materials in a place where they would appear alongside people's family photos and cat videos so in that piece i quoted a bunch of experts as to whether or not the holocaust belongs online on social media if it was appropriate if it's inevitable and so now it's a year later and a pandemic has really changed that perspective with no ceremonies with no way to stand together and physically remember as a group. What happened all those years ago. Commemorating online isn't choice. It's a necessity with all of the historical sites around the globe. The memorials the museums. All closed As a piece by two. Israeli scholars tobias brecht hartman. And tom devan said in haaretz yesterday. An op ed. We are quote challenged by the cancellation of perhaps the most iconic resident rituals of remembrance gathering commemorating at the actual sites where the mass murder was perpetrated so meeting that challenge. Is the online solutions. This year yesterday was the was the day There was an explosion in creative ways to virtually accessed the memorial sites and ways of commemorating and memorializing from a distance via the social media platforms. It was across zoom instagram twitter. Facebook youtube there were all kinds of innovations expansion of existing online events Lectures podcasts virtual visits and tours to the historical sites and exhibitions on youtube. There was a z koran. Salon style memories and the living room style discussion with an unusual hostess. The duchess of cambridge. Kate middleton who heard the stories of manfred inzaghi to holocaust refugees who found their place in great britain and who she had met a few years ago at remembrance ceremony so that all comes addition to what has become an annual ritual of people in israel. jewish people around the world posting their individual holocaust stories that focus on their families. Most of them are the stories of parents and grandparents who have now passed away and putting them online year after year somehow feels like we are keeping them in their legacy alive. The pandemic scholar suggested in their arts piece is a turning point Speaking in academia they wrote quote those tools informs are no longer perceived as indicators of flat narrow shallow social media interaction but as a fundamental element of commemorative work. It is in the power of a single hashtag to mediate share spread and intrigue generational curiosity in experiences from the past and quote I especially liked their conclusion. They pointed out that it is ironic that a pandemic often characterized fostering personal isolation and social atomization offers us such a key lesson about finding community history and solidarity any way we can. I agree with that final point. I think it's beautiful. But i also have to note as a as a closer discover where my red line was a memed for the of the gates of auschwitz with bernie sanders sitting in front of it on his lawn. Chair mittens on his hand No you know I it's all wonderful and good but really There are points at which the The social media commemoration of the holocaust needs to stop. Gotta love the internet. Thank you for that. so tomorrow. is the girl's birthday and one of the gifts. We wanted to get her is a lap blanket because a lot of what she does is curl up with a book in a chair in a corner soon and i went online to shop. Which since the lockdown started last month has been the only way to shop and we found on a site called marmolada market which is a kind of local oetzi. A place called echo on which sells tablecloths and towels and blankets and such and also slippers and bags and socks and embroidered shirts. I can't quite figure out what the unifying principle behind this stuff is. But i fell in love with one of the lap blankets which the site called a cure bullied or smuggler or snuggle blanket. The detailed description begins quote. A classics smuggler made from new zealand. Merino wool. That will hug and cuddle you on a winter's night and we'll bring special warmth into your home and quote. It goes on like that. The blanket has a tartan pattern dominated by hunter green and daffodil yellow and a very soft cream. It comes in two sizes small for three hundred and twenty nine shekels and big for three hundred and fifty nine shekels and i knew for sure that the bigger one was the right one for the girl but when i typed out the order the site said the bigger one was out of stock. Which was the disappointment. Susan i talked the thing through going back and forth and in the end we decided that this was still the right blanket little small because after all the girl is and let's be honest about it a little small herself so i ordered the small the next day i got a call from noah who is it turns out the proprietors of echo on. She introduced herself. And said i am so sorry to bother you. But there's a problem with your order. I said oil. Oh she said yes. And i'm very sorry but you ordered the small blanket. And i just checked our stockroom and there was a mistake. The only one we have is the large blanket you can take this or i can cancel the order. I am very very sorry. And i said no. We definitely want the big blanket. And noah said excellent. Of course. I will take from you. The price of the smaller blanket as it's my mistake and i've caused you problems and i said no no. It's the opposite. The big blanket is the blanco wanted in the first place when the site said it was out of stock. We weren't sure we even wanted to order this small blanket at all but then we said it's four our girl and she's not so big yourself so we ordered it so you see this is a wonderful thing for us and obviously we need to pay the price for the big blanket. I think i said something about husky prote- about divine providence. noah said. I'm glad to hear that you want the blanket. I'm sending you. It's a relief sill. I must charge you the lower price. Because that's what you ordered in hebrew. She said on the hi. Ed la he ever which i admired for. Its turn of phrase. I said but we have to pay the pyre price because that's what we wanted and that's what we're getting noah said no. I can't let you do that. And i said but i can't let you do that. And then we were both quiet on the line for a few seconds. It felt like a while. And i said so. What do we do. Noah said you will pay what i charge you. I already filled out the receipt and that is the end of the matter and so it was yesterday. The blanket arrived and it is beautiful tomorrow. Like i said is the girl's birthday. We also got our two books of poetry that ohad recommended good for reading under a blanket. That will we hope bring special warmth into her home and that brings us the end of our show. Me askenazi are genius researcher. Conciliatory scholar not in residence. Thanks to shell are station manager without whom we would have none of this. Thanks so as she believed my favorite band from keyboards gathered. They give us a music at the start and at the end of our show. Thank you to mel barunholtz for your crack suggestion of yet. Another reason to love tel aviv. Volvo thank you to the dozens and dozens of you. Who wrote to tell me that. Haagen-dazs was invented in nineteen sixty by two jews from the bronx reuben and rose mattis and hence could not possibly be goyeneche in the brucie and taxonomy of jewish. Goya's to which. I would respond that. It was to jews from cleveland. Jerry siegel and joe shuster. Who invented superman and if there is anything more glorious than that square-jawed lung it must be stored deep in vault deep in the bowels of the vatican. Thanks though for writing it made my week. Thank you alison. Thank you natalie. Hod we'd like to thank all of our patriots supporters for your generosity and support. It keeps a show going. It keeps the station going. We are moved and we are grateful and we are in your debt. We'd also like to thank you out there for taking the time to listen to us all of you and ask you like us on facebook and drop us a line. We're going to answer. Then go to apple podcast and give us a five star review. 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They have been charged with campaign finance violations and are set to appear in court in Virginia. This was the first arrest of the Ukraine investigation left Parnasse and eager from in both were associates of Rudy. Giuliani who've been helping him in his quest to find dirt on the Biden's but how they became key figures and trump's extortion of Ukraine. That's something we do. Now in. Their story offers a window into the corruption. Chaos of the trump White House. And how how. Many people stood to benefit from their willingness to shape down the Ukrainian government colluding about Russians which. I'm not even know if that's a crime polluting about Russia. Okay on April twenty first. This happened Ukrainian comedian has won the presidential election with a landslide. Securing more than seventy percent cent of the vote in Ukraine Episode Three Extortion on July Twenty Fifth Jeff Twenty nine thousand. Nine trump had his now infamous phone call with the newly elected. Ukrainian president below. d'humieres Alinsky this call came seven seven days. After the trump administration had decided to withhold aid to Ukraine from the White House released. Transcript of the call which may have been altered and it shows trump essentially extorting Zielinski. Trump is in effect trying to collude with Ukraine in the twenty twenty election. He Asks Alinsky to to work with Rudy Giuliani his personal lawyer and attorney. General are to investigate former vice president. Joe Biden trump was offering offering a foreign country the resources of the US Justice Department to investigate his potential twenty twenty opponent in suggesting that this investigation Shen was a precondition for the US Ukraine cooperation. That Zilenski desperately sought trumps started out the call by telling Zielinski that the US has provided a lot of support for Ukraine and that he's worried that the relationship is quote. Reciprocal he actually used the word reciprocal. In case anyone had any doubts. About the fact that this was clearly going to be a quid pro quo conversation. The president of the United States is acting like a mob boss Angry that a woman like you would be not just dismissed but humiliated and attacked by the president of the United States. The lifetime of service and sacrifice an excellent might be ignored by the president of the United States worse yet attacked in language that would embarrass a mob boss. What those notes reflect is a classic mafia-like shakedown before leader? That sounds more like I made an offer. They couldn't refuse much more extortion. Then Quinn pre. It wasn't a deal. It was a threat and it was a mob. SHAKEDOWN trump. Says I will say that. We do a lot for Ukraine. We spent a lot of effort in a Lotta time much more than the European countries are doing and they should be helping you more than they are. The United States has been very very good to Ukraine. I wouldn't say that it's reciprocal necessarily because things are happening thing. That are not good. But the United States has been very very good to Ukraine split Zielinski Gi then think trump and said that Ukraine would like to buy more weapons from the United States but trump responds. I would like you to do us a favor favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation. With Ukraine. They say crowd strike. I guess you have one of your wealthy people. The server they say Ukraine has it. There are a lot of things things that went on the whole situation. I think you're surrounding yourself with some of the same people. I would like to have the attorney general. Call you or your people people and I'd like you to get to the bottom of it as you saw yesterday. That whole nonsense ended with a very poor performance by a man named Robert Mueller an incompetent performance. But they say a lot of it started with Ukraine. Whatever you can do? It's very important that you do it if that's possible now. The Price H.. For the license is less than twenty thousand dollars. That's right now. Why would I consider paying more than that? Because I didn't squeezed you. Let's break this down for second. Trump is effectively accusing Ukraine of interfering in the twenty sixteen election against him. He also seems to say it's a little confusing. Because of the ellipse that are in the transcript. Meaning we're not quite sure. Sure exactly what he said. Here that quote one of your wealthy people which may be a reference to the main oligarch backer Zielinski who is actually under investigation in the US. By the Department of Justice so trump seems to be saying I could make your life very difficult Zielinski and so whatever you can do. Trump concludes includes his comments. It's very important that you do it and quote and I south. I said Nice House. You live there little girls. Having a birthday hunts this family yes it is and to take care seat and nothing happens So alinsky now on this call has to dance. He doesn't want to get in the middle of interfering in American politics but trump is basically accusing accusing Ukraine of which Dolinsky is now in charge of of interfering in the two thousand sixteen election and in this has been overlooked saying that Zielinski is surrounding himself himself with quote unquote the same people in other words. Trump is saying. You're kind of looking like my enemy like my adversary pacifist Santino. Tina Gao Yu wrong fingers sunny for the budget. You play with my sister you think they could fool the Cardi on my comment. I swear kids Lewinsky is now on the back foot and he says he is quote ready to open a new page cooperation in relations between the United States and and Ukraine so he said sure he will meet with Rudy and quote. I just want to assure you once again that you have nobody but friends around us. I also want to tell you that that we are friends. I guarantee as president of Ukraine the all the investigations will be done openly and candidly that I can assure you keep saying. Don't worry dude we're cool. We're friends I'm not your enemy but Dolinsky response is also sort of a non-answer ya'll gal with rudy and I WANNA be friends isn't the same thing as yes definitely. I'm going to look into this and start an investigation into your political opponents. So trump isn't finished he. He drives home the point quote. Good because I heard you how to prosecutor who is very good in. He was shut down. And that's really unfair are a lot of people are talking about that the way they shut your very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people involved only. Don't tell me you because it sells intelligence. Xp Very angry trump's now referring to the Prosecutor General Lute Sankoh who we talked talked about in the last episode who was playing ball with Rudy Giuliani. Who is giving interviews to John Solomon and has? We'll talk about to the New York Times saying that he's going to investigate instigate Joe Biden trump. Then pivots back to what he wants. Quote Mr Giuliani is a highly respected ban. I will ask him to call you along with their attorney. Attorney General Rudy. Very much knows what's happening. And he's a very capable guy. If you could speak to him that would be great. There's a lot of talk about Biden son and that Biden stopped the prosecution in a lot of people. WanNa find out about that so whatever you can do. With attorney general would be great Biden went around bragging that he stop the prosecution so if you can look into it it sounds horrible to me. So let's remember who Giuliani is. He's trump's personal lawyer hired it to defend trump around the more investigation. I know almost every big liar. New York who the hell are you special practice. I handled one client. Trump is saying his alinsky. You really need to meet with my personal lawyer and this is also often been lost the US Attorney General General to investigate Biden in his son his political opponent in so Zielinski agrees. He says I get it. He says his new prosecutor general quote quote will look into the situation specifically to the company that you mentioned in this issue the issue of the investigation of the case is actually the issue of making sure to restore honesty so we work on the investigation of the case. Zilenski says in other words Zielinski assaying. Yes the extortion is working. But trump doesn't don't want there to be any confusion about what Zielinski needs to do and he says quote. I will have Mr Giuliani gave you a call and I'm also going the have attorney general bar call in we will get to the bottom of it wasn't asking. I was telling Giuliani bar. Trump's personal lawyer and his attorney Attorney General his Roy Cohn the guy he appointed to protect him are going to give Zilenski a call zone Linski agrees to take their call but trump is still not done almost off hand. He mentioned that this is really ause. alinsky needs to do for trump to give him what he wants. This White House meeting the stamp of White House approval of American approval. Trump says quote. I will tell Rudy Attorney General. Barda call thank you whenever you would like to come to the White House feel free free to call give us a date and we'll work that out. I look forward to seeing you end. Quote trump right here was dangling. The meeting that Zielinski Linski team had been desperate to get in trump. Says they'll call you and then you'll get your meaning. Where's my Roy Cohn that's the question? President trump reportedly asked an anger after learning that his then Attorney General Jeff sessions had recused himself from the Russian investigation in two thousand seventeen president. Trump wanted an attorney general. Who would to protect them? Someone like Roy Cohn controversial lawyer that did represent trump and his nonpolitical career as the DOJ finds itself now at the center of the whistle blower scandal. Some are accusing them of protecting the president. The thing about a presidential phone call though is that they are not private other members of the national security team. Listen in is you taking the notes full of criminal conspiracy and it would be a bit of an understatement to say that most of the people listening on this call freaked out trump was is using the power of the presidency to strong arm to extort a foreign country to help himself politically he was once. Again trying to collude allude with a foreign country in this time he was caught in the act and it was so brazen that trump's own people people who volunteered to work for him in the White House who supported him thought it crossed the line thought it was too much in thought something needed to be done to stop him. Perhaps trump after Muller's feeble performance thought. He was home free but much. Like how trump's firing of Komi lead to the appointment of Robert Mueller trump's call l. prompted a whistleblower complaint which ended up breaking the scandal wide open so much in the Russia investigation in the Ukraine scandal has been incredibly complicated. Did but what led up to this call and what follows is a clear in straightforward sequence of events of a corrupt man in his corrupt team. Doing whatever it takes the help themselves. Even if it meant abusing their power breaking the law in extorting a partner of the United States. I Max Bergmann in this is the asset in Twenty Fifteen Ukranians tuned into a new TV. Show Servant of the people I it was a comedy about a schoolteacher who became president president of Ukraine. After video of him ranting about government corruption went viral. It was a funny show and he was a hit who wouldn't love to watch a TV show about someone other than a politician becoming president. The Star of the show was a man named Wlodimierz Alinsky. He immediately shot to stardom in two thousand eighteen. His production team started herded their own political party and called it quote servant of the people just like the show. They aimed high putting up for president just like on the show show in his platform focused on corruption. Just like on the show. A lot of people didn't quite know what to make of him including most foreign policy analyst and most governments around the world. Kaminsky is based on amd the Julia. Louis Dreyfus of Ukraine the town of laughter regularly get some of the highest ratings in the country three. He's also been playing conversion of the Ukrainian president for three seasons seasons people even compared to you guessed it. Donald trump in his campaign wasn't your typical political campaign instead of the usual rallies or speeches the Kennan and it would use digital platforms like instagram. He currently has eight point. Seven million followers Lewinsky capitalized on his image from the TV show. Just like his character he was an outsider outsider running to change the system that was corrupt in the message was resonating. Ukraine's comic actor Vladimir Zilenski owes his success in the first round of the presidential election. Two TV fame and a protest vote by young people frustrated by corruption and the slow pace of reform. In one of Europe's poorest countries giving people more important to me more than political is our ambition. The people are everything that Ukrainian people are waiting for us. Stunned this debate. That looked more like a rock concert. He promised to overturn system. That's long been run by rich all the guards. I'm not a politician Titian. I'm not a politician at all. I'm just a person an ordinary person who has come to break the system. If you've been listening into the season so far that probably won't surprise you. There's a pretty clear through line from what we talked about. Episodes one into about Ukraine's corruption problems. The multiple revolutions that Ukrainians experienced over the last ten years had failed to deliver the change. They were hoping for had failed to uproot corruption and this led to his Alinsky is rise. Here's vice just two weeks. Before the election connecting the dots hundreds of thousands took Dan Revolution in two thousand fourteen back then. Protesters had height. I towards ending endemic corruption and transforming the economy. But that was five years ago. Nothing's really improved and Ukraine is still in a war with Russia. That seemed thirteen thousand casualties thirty candidates running for president although only three serious contenders CON president and former Oligarch Petro Persian Co and two time. Presidential runner-up Yulia Timoshenko A well-known vote due to in part for the numerous allegations of corruption made against them. Both somehow the Linski is the most plausible fresh face. Face questions about Dolinsky then emerged right away back in his campaign was the oligarch who owned the TV station. That hosted his show Ebor Cola. Moise Komorowski has been accused of embezzling billions of dollars using his Ukrainian Bank that the Ukrainian government later privatized cool moist denies all of this but he is the kind of guy that reportedly hordley kept a huge pet shark in his office that he fed during meetings. That's not intimidating at all so Komansky has exactly the kind of track record word. That's Alinsky was running against so people weren't exactly sure if Dolinsky would deliver if you would actually tackle corruption and then on April Twenty first twenty twenty nine thousand nine hundred life imitated art Ukrainians went to the polls and the foods he one year old television comedian with no political experience experience now the leader of a country at war with Russia. We did it together. Thanks to everyone now. There will be no pathetic speeches. I just want to say thank you Alinsky. The ski didn't just win. He beat the incumbent Ukrainian President Petro Porsche. ANCO with seventy three percent of the vote he was coming to office with potentially a massive mandate and that was a mandate to tackle corruption in suddenly all of the work that Rudy Giuliani on behalf of Donald trump had been doing to cultivate altuva. People inside the Porsche Ankle. Government was in jeopardy. Dolinsky was a giant wrench in all the scheming that we talked about in the last episode would did he get with the program would help dig up dirt on trump's political opponents. Would he be on board for the natural gas scheme. Those guys Parnasse and fruman were pushing. That meant Marie Ivanovich. The US ambassador to Ukraine who is pushing the Ukrainian government to fight corruption to remove the corrupt prosecutor. General Yury let's anchor. WHO's working with Julian and who wasn't fighting corruption and she was opposing the scheming over Ukraine's energy sector? She was an obstacle and so she had to go. Ivanovich who's representing the United States of America was even told by Ukrainian officials that she had to quote watch took her back. Because Ukraine's new that Rudy Giuliani and Parnell and Freeman were angling to get her fired. So ultimately that smear campaign ain't push president trump to remove her corrector. I cannot judge that what I can say is that Rudy. Giuliani smear campaign was ubiquitous in the spring of twenty nineteen on Fox News News and on the Internet and twitter. Sphere so ambassador Taylor and Mr Kent and all of your combined decades at the State Department have you ever. Before seen an instance instance where an ambassador was forced out by the president following a smear campaign of misinformation orchestrated by the president's allies. I have not in and then in late April the director general of the Foreign Service called her first she called ten PM in according to Ianovich deposition to the house impeachment inquiry. She said quote things were going wrong kind of off the track and she wanted to give me a heads up. She didn't know what was happening but there was a lot of nervousness on the seventh four and up the street in other words the seventh floor. The top four of the State Department were secretary. POMPEO has his office was getting nervous in up the street. Eight from foggy bottom is the White House. And then you've got another call this time at one in the morning. According to Ivanovich quote she said that there was a a lot of concern for me that I needed to be on the next plane to Washington and I was like what what happened and she said I don't know but this is about your security charity. You need to come home immediately. You need to come home on the next plane. IANOVICH getting recalled back to the US and she couldn't even get had a clear reason why she met with the Deputy Secretary of state the number two official in the State Department where she was told. She didn't do anything wrong wrong. According to ianovich quote so the deputy secretary said that you know he was sorry. This was all happening that the president had lost confidence. And I would need to depart. Might Post I said what have I done wrong. And he said you've done nothing wrong. And he said that he had had to speak with embassador. who had been recalled for 'cause before and this was not that I was upset and I you know I want an explanation because this is rather unusual but he could not offer one beyond the fact that the president had made a decision and it is the president's to make as we know in other words trump had her removed on May seven th? US government formally announced that he was recalling. Maria vets one month gap between the time you left and went ambassador. Taylor arrived provided the perfect opportunity for another group of people to basically take over for Ukraine. Policy isn't that right. Partisan firm in the schemers we talked about in the last episode were according to their indictment and from the southern district of New York pressing for her removal for the past year. And now she was gone in a few months later. On July twenty fifth call was Alinsky. Trump would tells Alinsky that you're GonNa Vich was quote GonNa go through some things when you was asked about this by the house. Intelligence Committee Committee. What did you think of that statement when it became public? She said I didn't know what it meant. I was very concerned. I still am the questioner asked. Did you feel threatened. Yes in the White House in the National Security Council there was also a stunned reaction. Fiona Hill was the senior director of the top White House official responsible for Europe and Russia. She was clear eyed about Russia and she had written an excellent book about Putin while she was at the Brookings Institution in Twenty fifteen she was one of the few Republican publican foreign policy hands that decided to serve in this administration but when von which was recalled she was stunned. She told the house impeachment inquiry that quote there there was a period before the ousting of our ambassador and there was a period after this the dismissal of ambassador bridge was a real turning point for us and up there was no basis for her removal. The accusation against her had no merit whatsoever to hill. The only plausible explanation for for her removal quote seemed to be business dealings of individuals who wanted to improve their investment positions inside of Ukraine itself into deflect away from the findings of not not just the Miller report on Russian interference but also the Senate Intelligence Committee Reports Concerned Hill discussed ambassador. Yvonne riches removal level with the National Security Adviser John Bolton who according to hill quote directly said Rudy. Giuliani is a hand grenade. That is going to well. Well everybody up after poor Schinkel lost. The election. Giuliani wasted no time. This was a desperate period for trump and Giuliani. The more report had it. Just come out. The White House adjust deployed it's dubious strategy of stonewalling and not providing witnesses to Congress and so- Giuliani worked together. A story placed laced with the New York Times on May first two thousand nineteen. A story broke the New York Times about top twenty twenty candidate and former vice president Joe Biden's connections to Ukraine with the headline quote Biden faces conflict of interest questions that are being promoted by trump in allies. We've talked about the origins of this biting conspiracy. Here's the theory in the previous episode. And until now the mainstream media hadn't been handwritten stories about it hadn't covered it but now the New York Times the paper of record bit in they bit hard. The first nine paragraphs in the story were about Joe Biden's efforts to fire the prosecutor general of Ukraine Ukraine. As well as Hunter Biden's position on the board of the Ukrainian gas company Barisno. The only real news hook in this story. Was that quote a decision this year by the current Ukraine prosecutor-general to reverse himself in reopened investigation into Berea have pushed the issue back into the spotlight just as the senior. Mr Biden is beginning his twenty twenty presidential campaign unquote in other words. The news was the prosecutor. General was opening investigation into Biden which he had been pressured to do so by Giuliani. But here's the thing. It's not even clear that this is true that the Prosecutor General General Sankoh had actually ever reopened any case into Biden so the lead of the New York Times story is based on a fairly shaky premise based on the word of this corrupt prosecutor general. Who talked about in the last episode had lied to John? Solomon saying that Marie Ivanovich had given him A. Do not prosecute list. This this was what the lead of the New York Times story was about. But what was accurate about the story with the New York Times way to mention until the stories tenth paragraph was members of trump world led by Rudy. Giuliani had seized on the story. And we're pushing the Ukrainian government to investigate Biden. The story read that quote. Allies of Mr Trump have been eager to publicize and even encouraged investigation as well as other Ukrainian inquiries that serve Mr Trump's political ends Mr Giuliani's involvement raises questions about whether Mr Trump is endorsing an effort to push a foreign government to proceed with the case that could hurt a political opponent in at home. The Story Outline Giuliani Scheming. His meetings with both the Prosecutor General Lukashenko in the former prosecutor general shokhin who biden got fired tired in an even said that. Mr Giuliani called Mr trump excitedly to brief him on his findings according to people familiar with the conversations. Giuliani according to the story quote acknowledged that he has discussed the matter with the president on multiple occasions. So when you look at what's going on and then you see all of this horrible stuff and then you hear about Ukraine. You've been hearing about it. I heard Clinton was involved. I heard they got somebody who wrote the FIG dossier was it out of out of Ukraine all of the things that happened and I assume that the attorney general I would like the Attorney General to find out what's going on according to the time story. Quote Mr Giuliani said. He got involved because he was seeking to counter the more investigation with evidence that Democrats conspired with sympathetic Ukrainians to help initiate. What became the special? Counsel's inquiry Giuliani. There in May says he he was doing all of this to help trump politically Giuliani's quoted in the story saying quote. I can assure you this. All started with an allegation about possible. Ukrainian craning involvement in the investigation of Russian meddling in not biden the biden pieces collateral to the bigger story but must still be investigated but without without the prejudgments that infected the collusion story and quote in other words. This is all about the more investigation. Giuliani is trying to create a counter narrative for trump. And he's telling that to the New York Times he's literally admitting to what he's being accused of now on the impeachment inquiry and he did so back in May in the lesson here is how you construct a story matters. In by leading with Biden they put the attention on Biden not on the scheming of Giuliani and trump which was actually the criminal act actually the abuse of power and actually the story that could bring down a presidency but as Dan pfeiffer a former senior adviser to president as an Obama later put it on twitter quote. The New York Times reporter had all the information needed for a Watergate style scoop about trump and was so hell bent on fitting the information information into a predetermined anti narrative that he fumbled the ball. And if you listen to the first season of the asset the New York Times fumbling a major story should should not come as a surprise because on October thirty first twenty sixteen they basically did the same thing just a week before the election with the headline quote quote investigating Donald Trump. FDIC's no clear linked to Russia in mid-may two thousand nineteen. Giuliani had even planned a trip to Ukraine. He told the New New York Times and a foul on story quote. We're not meddling in an election. Were meddling in an investigation which we have the right to do. There's nothing illegal about it. He said somebody could say it's improper in. This isn't foreign policy. I'm asking them to do an investigation that they're doing already in that other people are telling them to stop and I'm going to give them reasons reasons why they shouldn't stop it. Because that information will be very very helpful to my client in May turn out to be helpful to my government rudy again again admits to the extortion in the New York. Times in the paper of record on May ninth. Twenty nineteen to White House officials. Trump's attitude towards Ukraine was inexplicably negative senior administration officials. Who worked on Ukraine? Just couldn't explain it. It was inexplicable will part part of the reason it was probably inexplicable to them is that they didn't listen to season one of the asset. Because if you had listened to it it's pretty damn explicable. The the podcast is called the asset for a reason in throughout the spring and summer of two thousand nineteen from wins Alinsky took office to the now infamous July twenty fifth phone call l. with trump one of trump's top advisors in his aide were bombarding him with negative messages about Ukraine telling him he needed to take a more aggressive stance toward Lord Ukraine and should not think highly Zielinski. The problem is those advisers weren't Americans. They weren't White House officials or State Department officials or even the US government officials. It was Russian President Vladimir Putin in Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban. According to a story in the Washington Post between between Zielinski Selection April and his inauguration in May trump talked with Putin over the phone and actually met with Victor on in the White House in the two months. After after Zilinskiene inauguration trump talked with Putin at least two more times I at the g twenty conference in June where they palled around for the cameras take time together very positive things so certainly in the laughed off Russian interference in two thousand sixteen bonded over their hatred of the free press Russia and then again trump talked to Putin on the phone in July. According to The Washington Post on trump's may third call with Putin trump actually asked Putin what he thought of Zilenski. The Washington Post reported that Putin who remember was fighting a war against Ukraine according to US officials quote. Did what he always does. He sought to undermine the US relationship with Ukraine in Putin called Ukraine quote note just a den of corruption even quote unquote derided Zielinski as a comedian the or visit to the White House was also controversial or bond basically weekly represents the worst of Europe so called populist wave. He and his party are antidemocratic. Anti EU Orban's since he's been in office as effectively squeezed the the life out of Hungarian democracy. The former president of the European Commission even called him his dictator Beulah. Not The usual greeting. You would expect to hear. It's an e you get together. The dictator was the word chosen by European Commission. President jean-claude Ymca welcomed Hungary's Victor Orban in Latvia. He was also the only European leader to endorse trump in two thousand sixteen. And here's how his visit to. The White House was covered. It was Viktor. Orban's first visit to the White House in twenty years and found a like minded leader in President. Trump probably like me a little bit controversial. But that's okay that's okay. You've you've done a good job that you've kept your country safe or bond has also played footsie with Russia engaging in dubious infrastructure projects and according to reports looking the other way as Russia uses says Budapest as its intelligence hub within the European Union as political noted back in two thousand seventeen Putin has visited Hungary several times since Orban's took office in Hungary was the first European Country Putin visited after his twenty fourteen invasion of Crimea. Russia also regularly boosts or bond in his government on its state run propaganda networks like RT and Sputnik. It's therefore not especially surprising that trump would invite someone like or onto the Oval Office but administration officials. Were against this meeting. They didn't want to take place. According to The Washington Post Trump's advisers tried to stop trump from meeting with Oregon because they knew trump would listen to him over for his own cabinet. According to one former White House official quote basically. Everyone agreed no Orbin meeting because we knew there was a good chance that trump and orban's would bond and get along and quote. We don't know exactly what trump and or von talked about because in something of a trend with trump. There were no official note takers. What was an hour long meeting? What we do know is that one official said that the meeting quote solidified trump's negative views about dolinsky quote an example of the president? They didn't himself under malign influence being steered by it. This is from someone serving in government. Who thinks that? The president is under the malign influence of Putin in May according to another Washington Post Story Mick Mulvaney the acting White House chief of staff and head of Owen be decided to quote take Ukraine policy out of the traditional channels input according to their term the three Amigos goes on top of the name there was former governor of Texas in current US energy. He's Secretary Rick Perry. There was Gordon. Sunland a longtime gop donor who made his fortune in the hotel industry news been serving the US ambassador to the European Union. The fact that he was involved in Ukraine Halsey at all should have raised big red flags because Ukraine is in the European Union. Indian there's also Kurt Volker and we mentioned him last episode because he worked at consulting firm that Ukraine's last president. Petro Poor SHANECO had hired to help set up our relationship with trump and he has been serving as a special envoy to Ukraine Volcker was not some hack. He was an experienced foreign policy. Hand had served in the Bush administration nistration and during his tenure was one of those administration appointees that wasn't a trump acolyte but was a republican and had been waiting for years to serve again in a Republican looking administration and was one of the rare breed. That was willing to do that. Even under trump to the State Department officials normally would have been involved in Ukraine issues. Were told to lay low. So that the three Amigos as they call themselves could get to work on May. Twentieth Zielinski was inaugurated. Zillion ski arrived to his inauguration on foot. The crowds delighted with the man. They've known for years as a comic touch on their TV screens. He stopped philosophies. and Hi Five's jumping to kiss members of the public true manner. The people stuff the crowds chanting Zilenski. He took to the red carpet and strode with panache through the parliament Alinsky. He was elected with a huge majority but how he would approach Russia in how the US would approach. The new. Ukrainian government was of the utmost importance. Ukraine rain was still fighting an act of war with Russia and he had been elected on anti-corruption platform demonstrating he had. US backing was critical for Zielinski. Both both the show his people especially those who didn't vote for him because they questioned how he would handle the war and to show Russia that nothing had changed publicly. He needed a White House. Meeting with trump that classic handshake photo in the Oval Office. That said Hey I of the United States of America behind me he also needed the US to continue to support Ukraine. The possibility of a White House meeting was being held contingent to an announcement how how important to presidents Alinsky was a White House meeting new leaders particularly countries that are trying to A Re have good footing International Rena See a meeting with us. President in the Oval Office at the White House as as the ultimate sign of endorsement and support from the United States and presidents Alinsky was a relatively new president. Is that right. That's correct. He was elected on on April twenty first and his government was formed. After parliamentary elections in July would a White House meeting presidents alinsky boost his legitimacy as a new president president and Ukraine it would primarily boost his leverage to negotiate with lot Amir Putin about the Russian occupation of seven percent of Ukrainian territory but Who shows up at inauguration for world leader sends a big signal INS? Alinsky needed a strong American showing. At First Vice President Pence was supposed to come which would have sent a strong message that the US backs Alinsky then suddenly pence backed out this wasn't due to some scheduling issue. The Washington the Post reported that trump. Actually instructed pence not to attend the inauguration the delegation that did end up showing was much much weaker it was led led by US energy secretary. Rick Perry Ambassador to the EU Sunland special envoy Volcker also attended while he was there Rick Perry also got a a meeting was Alinsky in there as the head of the. US Delegation Perry Push Linski to change the NAFTA GAS Board. He wanted Linski to replace members of the board with people who were more trump friendly. Now remember Parnasse in Fruman when they were in Houston in March. An energy conference were also pushing to change. The NAFTA GAS board here was Perry just a few weeks after Ivanovich was removed. Something that partisan firm and we're also pushing for here. He was pressuring the Ukrainian President to changed the board of Nafta Gas A.. What still remains murky here? But what's clear is that Rick. Perry refused to cooperate with impeachment proceedings. Now now if there was nothing untoward done by Rick Perry. Then what does he have to hide. Why isn't he cooperating? And just over the weekend we learned that Perry met met with Dolinsky without anyone there from the embassy he cut out the note. Takers Fiona Hill. The White House Senior Director explained in her deposition into the house impeachment inquiry that during this period she had met with a US member of the NAFTA GAS Board who the trump administration had actually appointed. She says quote it had come to his attention that there was a lot of pressure being put on the officials of Nafta Gas who had also reached out to talk to me and my colleagues at the national security already council to have other board members put in place in. This seemed to be at the direction of Giuliani now hill. who was running? Russia in Ukraine policy on the National Security Council was also like what is this hotel Guy Sunlen doing dealing with Ukraine. Firstly he deals with the EU and Ukraine is not a member of the EU but secondly he's a donor ambassador. They're generally three types of ambassadors their career foreign service officers then there are political appointees at our experts. Are Those with experience. Like former Governor of Utah. Jon Huntsman who was ambassador to Russia and then there are the donors every administration has used embassador postings to reward their political backers their donors in Sunland had given one million dollars to the trump inaugural to become ambassador. The thing about the donor ambassadors is that they often don't know what they're doing they're out of their depth. They have no experience yet. They tend to be a little bit arrogant and they cause a ton of headaches and Sunlen was a total headache according to hill so he'll ask sunland on. Whose Authority is he working on Ukraine and he said quote the president? This wasn't how things were supposed to go. These channels weren't normal in his testimony before Congress Ambassador Tailor made that pretty clear. I found the confusing unusual arrangement for making US policy towards Ukraine there appeared to be two channels policy making an implementation one regular one highly irregular as the Acting Ambassador Authority over the regular formal diplomatic processes including the bulk of the US effort to support Ukraine against Russian invasion to help it defeat corruption. My colleague Deputy Assistant Secretary of State George Kent and our colleagues at the National Security Council. Where my main point of contact in Washington in this regular channel this channel is formerly responsible for formulating and overseeing the implementation of US foreign policy with respect to Ukraine a policy that has consistently enjoyed strong and bipartisan support? Both in Congress and in all administration since Ukraine's independence from Russia in one thousand nine hundred one at the same time however I cure I encountered an irregular informal channel of US policy making with respect to Ukraine unaccountable to Congress a channel that included then special envoy Kurt Volker US ambassador to the European Union. Gordon Sunlen Secretary of Energy Rick Perry White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney and then as I subsequently learned Mr Giuliani on July tenth these two channels converged twos Alinsky advisors traveled to Washington. DC to visit the White House else. They stayed at where else the trump hotel down the street and made sure their American guests knew about it. They were there to walk in. US support for their new government into finally secure a White House meeting for his Alinsky. The two Ukrainians went to the White House and met with trump's national security advisor John Bolton as well as Sunlen. I'm Lynn Volker. Perry and Fiona Hill. It was actually hills last few weeks on the job. The meeting was going fine. Bolton was careful not to promise a White House meeting but that's when Gordon sunlen according to hill quote blurted out. Well we have an agreement with the chief of staff for a meeting if these investigations in the energy sector actor start. According to Hill Bolton stiffened up in immediately ended the meeting as the meeting was breaking up. Sawan instructed the Ukrainians and Perry Volker ochre to follow him into another room. It was the post meeting meeting to talk about the next steps of the meeting. Got It basically. Someone is working around around the White House National Security Advisor Bolton could see them going into this other room and he told Hill to go find out what was going on. He'll goes down down. The hallway walks into the room and according to her quote Ambassador Song in front of the Ukrainians as I came in was talking about how he had an agreement and with chief of Staff Mulvaney for meeting with the Ukrainians if they were going to go forward with the investigations and Quote Hill says her director rector that covered Ukraine. Lieutenant Colonel Vigne quote was looking completely alarmed and she said that Ukrainians quote looked very alarmed as well. He didn't didn't look like he knew it was going on and quote Hill said she interrupted and said we can't discuss this here and according to hill quote and Ambassador Sunlen cut me off off. He said we have an agreement. They'll have a meeting and quote the Ukrainians leave in Hill in Sunland. Have Words and Sunlen tells her he had discussions discussions with the chief of staff and Giuliani. He'll goes back to Bolton and tells them what happened and Bolton tells her to go talk to John Eisenberg. The White White House counsel because according to Hill Bolton said quote Ugo Intel Eisenberg that I am not part of whatever drug deal Sunlen in Mulvaney. Are Cooking hooking up on this. This is the new testimony that Bolton apparently said quote. I'm not part of whatever drug deal sunlen and Mulvaney you are cooking up. This is not breaking bad. This is real life. Mr Bolton a very accomplished lawyer in addition to his other training knew what was going on he had a view of it. He wanted to warn the White House in no uncertain terms. He viewed as criminal. And there's a lawyer speaking to lawyers and non lawyers. He called it the drug deal so he couldn't be misinterpreted. Couldn't be misheard and that's not all we're learning from this new witness that Mr Bilden also warned quote Giuliani as a hand grenade. Who's going to blow? Everybody up Bolton reportedly told the witness to report her concerns to not just anybody to a top lawyer at the National Security Council which she reportedly did to put this in context for a second. This is John Bolton he's he's probably the most radical right wing conservative national security adviser ever in American history. This was the best speech of the trump presidency in my view. I think if he was as clear and direct as possible to be during the Bush administration he was too extreme for the Republican controlled Senate. Who wouldn't confirm him to be? UN when ambassador and he was strongly pro trump. Just eight days after this meeting on July. Eighteenth Twenty nineteen trump ordered his chief of staff who is also director of the Office of Management Budget. Mick Mulvaney to put a hold on two hundred fifty million dollars in vital military aid to Ukraine. This this was aid that Congress had already approved aid that the Pentagon had already certified that Ukraine was supposed to receive aid. That was going to Ukraine to help them fight a war against against Russia the announcement came at a run of the mill and SC coordination meeting with fairly mid level officials from all over the government lament. This wasn't supposed to be news-making meeting but when the NBA official at the meeting said they were putting a hold on Ukraine security assistance. People were stunned. No explanation was given why we're putting a hold on this funding nor would there ever be an explanation on why the hold was in place. No one knew what the hell was going on the following day on July Nineteenth Volker connected Giuliani with top Zielinski. Aide Andrei your Mac and suggested that the two men speak Song told Taylor and Volker that he spoke to his Alinsky in quote gave him a full briefing. He's got it Volcker said it was quote most important for Zielinski to publicly announce that he would quote. help the investigation having Zielinski Ski Make a public announcement is key to the whole extortion scheme. Trump didn't just want Zilenski to quietly reopen the investigation into Barack Obama into find. Find out if there was anything there. And if there was than may be prosecuted he wanted Zielinski to make a show out of it. He wanted a press conference. He wanted the public the American public to know there is an investigation that could potentially implicate abidance this was a public. Pr Stunt if this sounds familiar. Millier it should. It follows the same pattern that trump had pushed with Clinton emails with the scandal over uranium one with Devin nunes claiming there was a whistle blower jumping out of Avenue Bor with trump claiming. His wires were tapped. They were constantly looking for other scandals that they could put on their political opponents in. It's clear that Dolinsky understood understood what was happening a few days later Taylor indicated to Sunlen and Volker that Dolinsky was worried about being seen as a pawn in domestic. US politics saying quote Lewinsky's sensitive about Ukraine being taken seriously not merely as an instrument in Washington domestic reelection politics. This text from Taylor is critical. It confirms that Zielinski Understood Investigating Biden was a matter of domestic. US politics about about manufacturing damaging news about trump's opponent in not actually about corruption in Ukraine in other words Zielinski understood he was being extorted on on July twenty fifth before trump's call was Alinsky. Volker Texted Alinsky aid saying quote heard from White House. Assuming President Zee convinces trump. You will investigate slash get to the bottom of what happened in two thousand sixteen. We will nail down date for visit to Washington. Good luck saying that agreeing to investigate. Trump's conspiracy peercy theories about Ukraine. This text message spells it all out. It says that agreeing to investigate. Trump's conspiracy theories about Ukraine is a precondition for trump meeting Alinsky and that the fact that one was needed to get the other came straight from the White House in just a little little while later that day trump calls Alinsky after the call. All Hell broke loose. The whistleblower complaint that was sparked after the call highlights. How pretty much everyone listening in heard the call and thought to themselves that sounds like an abuse of power that sounds corrupt? The complaint says the call quote deeply disturbed served White House officials in. It explains how White House lawyers scrambled to figure out how to deal with the likelihood that they had witnessed the president of the United States states abuse. His Office for personal gain and quote. It also goes through the details of how immediately after the call ended. The White House scrambled to cover for it. Up In a section of the complaint literally titled Quote Efforts to Restrict Access to records related to the call the whistleblower breaks down for us. How how the White House tried to lock down records of the call and how White House lawyers directed officials to put the transcript in classified network? That is the most tightly controlled control of four different networks that the National Security Council staff uses it so secretive that even top White House national security. Aides don't have regular access. The system can only be accessed by individuals who have quote code word access to specific programs that the intelligence is related to according to the whistleblower quote one White House official described this act as an abuse of this electric system because the call did not contain anything remotely Lee sensitive from a national security perspective. That's right it didn't have anything sensitive for national security just sensitive for trump politically. It's really important. For the American. The people to understand that the rules of classification and the systems to protect that classification serve only to protect national security interests of the United States. They are not there to protect the president from embarrassing information politically embarrassing information and certainly they are not there to protect criminal wrongdoing so the way this call was handled to me he was raising a ton of alarm bells. First of all these calls are normally classified. It's at levels. No more than secret I think is really most what most foreign foreign calls are are classified ads and certainly not at the code word. Top secret level which is a system and level of classification for our most most secret intelligence Elgin's programs so it tells me that there's some it was clear that the National Security Council or the National Security Adviser. Maybe the White House lawyers decided that this calls content and was sensitive enough that they didn't want to get out that they tried to bury it On the separate server and just to put a finer point on how bonkers this is the reason to have a presidential presidential call with another president of a foreign country is because foreign policy is set on that call. We'll who needs to know what. US foreign policy is. I don't know how about the people implementing US foreign policy. That would be the people in the State Department. The people that work on Ukraine policy the ambassador in Ukraine. But when you put a call with a foreign leader on a secret code word classified computer system in which they don't have access guess what you're not setting. US foreign policy so any claims that trump was just concerned about corruption in. This was a perfect call. Well then why aren't you distributing it to the people that are supposed to express your concerns to the foreign leader. You're what this demonstrates is. The call was not perfect. The call revealed a crime and the White House then sought to cover it up. We ten Colonel Alexander Vitamin the Ukraine director was one person who heard the call and he went immediately to White House. Lawyer John Eisenberg. That's the same lawyer that Fiona Hill went to on instruction from John Bolton after that Sunlen meeting Vin Min expressed his concerns to Eisenberg in Eisenberg's response was basically. Don't tell oh anyone about it. Vin Man has also told the house impeachment inquiry that the transcript released by the White House was incomplete according to the New York. Times Vincent Vincent told congressional investigators that the White House transcript quote omitted crucial words and phrases and that his attempts to include them failed and quote these words and phrases contain things like according to Ven- trump talking about there being tapes of Biden in other words the actual transcript of of the call that we have seen is not fully complete it may have been scrubbed certain damaging things may have been left out. Hence there's these weird ellipses throughout the call. Nevertheless the Ukrainians heard the call and they heard trump loud and clear they were getting the message in. We're intimating they. Were going to play ball but before were they played ball. They wanted to lock down the meeting. I 's Alinsky aid texted volker quote phone call went well and then tossed out some possible dates for the meeting after all on the call it essentially agreed to do the investigations in Zilenski was amenable to meeting with bar. Giuliani just a few days later. Giuliani went to Madrid to meet with Dolinsky aid where he hammered the message home. Investigate the Biden's in ambassador Taylor's public testimony the money before Congress. A new bombshell was also revealed. The day after the call on July twenty six sunlen called trump and told them about his meetings meetings with a top Ukrainian aid following that meeting in the presence of my staff at a restaurant. Besser solid called president trump and told him of his meetings in cave. The member of my staff could hear president trump on the phone asking ambassador. Sunland about the investigations toll. President President trump the Ukrainians were ready to move forward following the call with President trump. That member of my staff ambassador SOM- than what president trump thought about Ukraine. That's the song responded that President Trump cares more about the investigations of Biden which Giuliani was pressing. Hi and welcome to the program. My Name's Kerry odor mid on July twenty fifth. President trump called his colleague below two Mirrors Alinsky and congratulated needed him on a parliamentary landslide. Lewinsky's party serving. The people is the first party in post independence Ukraine to have an absolute majority. Here's discussed that today with me is. US Ambassador to the EU Gordon Sunlen. He's going to talk with me about his. How often he visits Kief what he likes to do here? Here in who we spoke with today. Thank you so much for joining us. Kerry how are you. I'm GonNa Thank you tell me about how your day was Well had a great lunch with my team but before that I had a wonderful hour long meeting with presidents Lansky that followed on the heels of his telephone call yesterday with President President Trump. Did he give you insight. And what they spoke about absolutely I actually spoke with President Trump. Just a few minutes before he placed the call and Not Not only. Did the president called to congratulate Presidents Alinsky but also to begin the collaboration of charting the pathway forward with the support of Ukraine and and a White House visit. That's upcoming four presidents Alinsky. That's great news because we're all curious about this. There hasn't been a date set for this sometime in late summer. One Important Porton thing to remember through this whole story is that it was happening while there was already an investigation ongoing into trump for colluding with a foreign government to to steal an election. Special Counsel Robert Moore Literally testified to Congress the day before trump's call was Alinsky in that testimony. He gave a warning election. Interference was going to happen again. Many more countries are developing capability to replicate. What the Russians have done? Is this in your investigation investigation that you think that this was a single attempt by the Russians to get involved in our election. We do find evidence to suggest they'll try to do this again. Why not a single attempt? They're doing as as we sit here and they expected during the next campaign. The House of Representatives were holding hearings on the Molar Report on the more or investigation and on August eighth. Jerry Nadler the chairman of the House. Judiciary Committee clarified that. What they were doing was effectively and impeachment investigation investigation? This is formal impeachment proceedings. We are investigating all the evidence gathering the evidence and we will at the conclusion of this Hopefully by the end of the year vote to vote articles of impeachment to the House floor or we won't that's a decision that will have to make but that that's exactly the process we're in right now and so on August ninth. The day after Nadler described investigation as formal impeachment proceedings. sunlen texted Volker about Tim. Morrison who had recently replaced Fiona Hill as the top White House official on Russia. Someone told Volker that Morrison was quote ready to get dates. As soon as you're Matt Confirms Voelker seemed surprised at this and wanted to know how sunland convinced Morrison to jump on board with their scheming. Sawn when replied quote not sure I I did I think is really wants the deliverable this raises questions about what trump said to Bolton or morrison about wanting to get a meeting with Zielinski on the books and let me just say something quickly about Tim Morrison. He is a bold acolyte he is a Russia Hawk and hates all things nuclear arms control in when he was the Republican congressional staffer on the hill he was a huge pain in the butt for the Obama Administration and so we have a Russia Hawk working for a Russian asset. This is why the White House foreign policy is so dysfunctional in so there was his awkward dance of who would go first. There was a standoff. No one wanted to be the first mover over. What this shows is that there was a total lack of trust between Dolinsky people in trump's people? No one trusted each other to go first. Silane said that to quote avoid misunderstandings and quote. They should ask Ukraine for a draft of their statement to review. In a later call between Volker Sunland and Guiliani Guiliani made made it clear that the statement needed to specifically name Barack Obama so zilinskiene Ukrainians. It was pretty clear what was going on. Make a public statement saying you're investigating getting Brisman Joe Biden and you'll get your meeting with trump. We don't need to speculate about this your Mac. This alinsky aid texted Volker to confirm. That's what the trump team unwanted saying quote. I think it's possible to make this declaration in mentioned all these things which we discussed yesterday but it will be logic to do after we. We received confirmation of date inform about data visit and about our expectations and our guarantees for future visit. Let's discuss it. He essentially saying we can do this. But give us the date. I confirm it and then we'll do it. Volcker said quote. I agree with your approach. Let's turn out statement and use that to get date and then presidents presidents Alinsky can go forward with it. And your Mac replied quote once we have a date will call press briefing announcing upcoming visit and outlining wining vision for the reboot of US Ukraine relationship including among other things Barack Obama an election. Meddling in investigations later tax between between Volker and Sunlen even show the two men basically writing out a draft of what they wanted Alinsky to say including investigations into Barack Obama and the two thousand sixteen. Eighteen election's this is straight up extortion. They're telling Zielinski they're telling Ukraine investigate our political opponents. And we'll give you what you want on a White House meeting getting to the final handoff to completing the drug dealers John Bolton called it investigations for meeting proved to be a little more difficult than the men anticipated as with any criminal deal. Neither side wanted to go. I Listen Jackie does this do lose them like you lost your job. Give him the disk. ICU But I don't see to worry about an. We gotTA worry about now. Tell you some Jimmy says reunion if I don't see about five seconds I'm walking in. The trump team was looking for a way to force Ukraine's hand and they had a way remember when they held Ukraine security. Assistance will on August twenty eighth politico politico published an article citing senior administration official announcing that the trump administration was withholding two hundred fifty million dollars in military aid due to Ukraine. They made it official in politico Ukraine. Knew that they were now at risk of losing two hundred fifty million dollars in military aid aid. We now know that the decision had been brewing for a long time. The New York Times got its hands on documents showing that the Pentagon told top Ukrainian officials in early August that the White House had decided to withhold aid and that if they wanted to know what was going on they should reach out to Mick Mulvaney president trump's chief of staff so the Ukrainians crain's new. What was happening in August and so they were willing to do the statement? They were willing to go along but they wanted assurances from the White House that they would get their meaning that the aid would be released given that context. The political article looks like it was just another way of connecting the dots. This wasn't just about a meeting with trump and some sham investigations allegations Ukraine's military aid was really at risk in Ukraine panicked. Your maximum skis aid. Texted Volker quote need to talk with you. In pasted the article link into a text and Volker played it cool. Hi Andre absolutely when is good for you. Trump had been due to meet with Zielinski in Warsaw Salk Poland on September first but he had canceled that visit because of Hurricane Dorian least. According to reports in so vice president pence went instead prior to the meeting ambassador Taylor had cabled to Mike Pompeo and the rest of the State Department expressing his concerns about how the Ukrainians were being treated in about the whole on the security assistance. At the Dolinsky pence meeting Zielinski immediately brought up security cooperation vice. President Pence didn't respond substantively. Typically what he said was that he would talk to president trump but he wanted the Europeans to do more and he wanted to Ukraine's to do more to fight corruption if this was too vague for the Ukrainians which it probably wasn't Sawn Lynn. was there to make it clear. He'd another backchannel meeting. Also in Warsaw were he told the senior aide to Zilenski that they would only get the aid if they announced investigation into Barack Obama the link between US security assistance and and investigating. The Biden's was now made clear in his vice president pence who was helping to deliver this message. And let's be clear about this. US security charity assistance. The four hundred million dollars is our money. It's taxpayer dollars. It's what you and I and everyone else. WHO's listening to this podcast? It pays taxes that goes to the US government that the American people have committed to you. This is clear extortion. And it's pence at this meeting. That's driving it home. TWOS Alinsky direct from the White House. Ambassador Taylor was clearly very disturbed by all of this and he sent ambassadors Sunlen. A text message asking quote. We are now saying that security assistance in a White House meeting are conditioned on investigations. Ambassador Sunlen responded ended asking Taylor to call him which he did and someone told Taylor that president trump had told them he wants Linski to state publicly that Ukraine investigate charisma and alleged. Ukrainian interference in the twenty sixteen election. Sunland told Taylor that president trump wanted Zielinski exc quote in a public box in other words. He wanted to Linski to come forward publicly. So then. Zielinski couldn't backtrack. He needed Zielinski to make that commitment in needed public. If there's any doubt that pence knew it was going on what's remember. One of his close. Aides was listening in in on the July twenty fifth call. Pence would have been briefed extensively before his meeting was Dolinsky. He knew what investigations meant but the three Amigos were still at texting back and forth in early September on September. Seventh Taylor had a conversation with Tim Morrison at the White House in which Morrison described to tailor that he had a quote. Oh sinking feeling on September ninth Taylor decides to spell it out overtaxed. He wrote to Volker and sunland quote. I think it's crazy you to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign ambassador Taylor and you're decades of military service and diplomatic service representing the United States around the world. Have you ever seen another example of foreign aid conditioned on the personal or political interests of the president of the United. It states no Michigan not not nearly five hours later and after calling trump to consult with him sunlen response effort offered to clean up the record quote. The president has been crystal clear. No quid pro. Quos of any kind and quote. He then said quote. If you still have concerns turns. I recommend you give us a call to discuss them. Directly S is State Department. Speak for Mike. POMPEO secretary of State Sawn win is telling Taylor if he's got a problem with what's going on talk to the Secretary of State so Mike Pompeo also knows what's going on and another point is simply saying you're not committing a crime doesn't make it so and what you see is trump in multiple occasions telling White House officials telling Assan land that he's not asking for a quid pro quo and then the next line out of his mouth or the next thing. That's implied is well. Ukraine has to do this thing in order for me to provide them what they want. I Want I e a quid pro quo. Trump is just saying he's not doing the thing that he's actually doing but trump is three amigos. Were starting to have a problem. People were talking. It was starting to come to light what they were actually doing. On September Fifth The Washington Post editorial board took the unusual step type of breaking news in an editorial about trump's decision to withhold aid to Ukraine. It wrote quote some suspect. Mr Trump is once again catering to Mr Putin who is dedicated to undermining Ukrainian democracy and independence but were reliably told. The president has a second in more venal agenda. He is attempting to force Mr Zielinski to intervene in the twenty twenty. US presidential election by launching an investigation of the leading democratic credit candidate. Joe Biden Mr Trump is not just soliciting Ukraine's help with his presidential campaign he's using US military aid the country desperately expertly needs in an attempt to extort it whoever told The Washington Post this was right and helped her for the public and what would become this enormous scandal. Taylor meanwhile was putting this all together. He Texted Volker on September. Eighth writing quote the nightmare. Is They give the interview in. Don't don't get the security assistance. The Russians love it and then in parentheses he says and I quit Taylor's threatening to resign. He's threatening to quit and saying what. The trump administration is doing is beneficial to Russia bad for Ukraine. And he's not going to stand for the New York Times reported that a public announcement was set to be made on my CNN program. So I think viewers my best understanding of what actually happened as we now know for months trump White House has had been mounting an intense campaign to force him to publicly announce those investigations. He had tried to resist and put them off in various ways but ultimately partly decided he would have to give in according to the Times. His team apparently concluded that since he was planning an interview with me anyway that would be the form in which he he would make the announcement. Just imagine alinskyites dilemma. By the time I met with him in Kid he knew the aide had been released but the back story had not yet broken into public look view Ukrainian officials. I spoke to about the release of the eight at the time were delighted but a little surprised and unsure as to what had happened so let's ski and his team. Were probably still trying to figure out whether they should still do the interview. A few days later on September eighteenth and nineteenth the Washington Post broke doc. The story wide open the interview was called off it. Meanwhile another brave individual within the White House the whistle blower a national security staffer offer had filed their official complaint on August twelfth. Almost a month earlier this morning. We're learning a phone call. Between President Trump and another world leader prompted a whistleblower complaint at the center of a growing scandal in Washington president trump's communications with a foreign leader concerning enough to prompt a whistleblower complaint complaint that's according to The Washington Post President trump now defiant and dismissive of that explosive whistleblower complaint against him to ridiculous. It's a partisan whistle blow. It shouldn't even have information. According to The New York Times in the process. They also brought their concerns to an aide on the house. Intel committee eighty. Who told them to get a lawyer? File complaint through September a behind the scenes battle had been going on to release the complaint to the House Intelligence Committee the as is required with shift going against the acting director of National Intelligence demanding that the complaint get released but the White House was sitting on the complaint. The Department of Justice Bill Bars Department of Justice was not allowing for it to be released and so we had a standoff and then as attention was growing laying over the whistleblower complaint over this dispute without a lot of clarity about what it was about and then as attention was growing after the Washington posted already reported on the hold of review a security assistance in the reasons for it and as there was this growing fight between Congress in the White House over the release of this whistleblower complaint trump then decides to just released. Hold nothing to see here folks totally normal. Just the crane. Security Systems is flying out the door. Nothing to do with anything. Just two days later on September thirteenth shift had had enough and subpoenaed the acting director of National Intelligence demanding that the whistleblower complaint beaver least to the House Intelligence Committee pretty soon. News starting to trickle out out about the complaint I we learned it had to do with a conversation between trump and a foreign leader sometime that summer that helped narrow it down so Linski was on the list but so where Putin Kim Jong Hoon in leaders from Pakistan the Netherlands and cut our next we learned. It was about more than just one phone call. The complaint was about a pattern pattern of behavior leading up to a promise between trump and the foreign leader. A promise the whistle blower found so troubling that they felt they had no choice is but to file a complaint. It wasn't until September nineteenth that we learned that the complaint was about Ukraine. The pieces started to fall into place as the Washington. The Post had reported two weeks earlier. Trump had withheld aid from Ukraine demanding. That Zilenski publicly announced investigation into his election. Opponents trump was abusing the power of his office to extort a foreign government into interfering in the twenty twenty presidential election and then later that night on September nineteenth eighteenth rudy just admitted to it now yester- Ukraine to investigate the allegations that there was interference in the election of twenty sixteen by the Ukrainians for for the benefit of Hillary Clinton for which they were already a never ending anything about Hunter Biden. You never ask anything about Joe thing I asked about. Joe Biden is to get to the bottom of how it was that Lukashenko who was appointed dismissed the case against anti you did ask Ukraine to look into Joe Biden. Of course I did. You just said you didn't a month earlier House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler announced the House Judiciary Committee was gonNA open impeachment proceedings but it was unclear. How much of the Democratic Caucus was behind signed him? A lot of people just wanted to move on forget about the Russian investigation and there was one person in particular who seemed particularly uncertain. The speaker of the House Nancy Antsy Pelosi who had long been opposed to moving forward on impeachment on September. Twenty fourth after resisting. Moving toward impeachment policy made it official announcing announcing the House of Representatives moving forward with an official impeachment inquiry. I'm directing are six committees to proceed with their investigations under that umbrella of impeachment inquiry. The president must be held accountable. No one is above the law. There was now no turning back. Trump had allegedly extorted. You did a foreign meter for a personal political gain so the house was moving to impeach him and Republicans are going to have to take a vote. Do they condone what the president did or do they condemn damn it and the next day trump did the unthinkable. He confessed was largely congratulatory. was largely corrupting. All of the corruption. flickinger play was largely the fact that we don't want our people like Vice President Biden and his son creating already next week on the asset. We wrap up the series and tell you how this whole impeachment process ends. We look into the future and Well no we can't actually look into the future feature so what we're GONNA do kick the CAN. Okay here's what we have planned next week. We will do a special episode reviewing the last two weeks of the impeachment hearings this this will be available to all our listeners. It will prepare you for the mental combat. That is Thanksgiving dinner. While you're enjoying your Turkey and car ballooning onsides with Yellowish Tint. We will be hard at work working over Thanksgiving just kidding mom to deliver our long promised and somewhat delayed special episode that will follow the trail of dead Russians. Yes it's coming. 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"Live from NPR news in Washington. I'm Shay Stevens. US Secretary of State. Mike pompeo is postponing a trip to Ukraine. The focus on security concerns in the Iraqi capital as NPR's Jackie northern reports the decision follows a second day of protests outside the US embassy. In Baghdad Secretary Pompeo had planned to leave on Thursday on a five day tour including Kiev where he was due to meet with Ukrainian President Vladimir Zilenski for the first time since president trump was impeached. Impart for his conduct towards Ukraine the State Department says the trip is now postponed so pompeo can monitor the ongoing situation in Iraq Iraq earlier in the day. US forces in Iraq used tear-gas on supporters of a run back militias outside the embassy before the protesters withdrew from the area. Yeah U. S. Marines have been dispatched from neighboring Kuwait to deal with the increasingly tense situation at the embassy in Baghdad. The Pentagon has also authorized the immediate deployment of seven hundred and fifty soldiers to the region. Jackie Northam NPR news. The Coast Guard says five. People are missing from a sunken crab fishing boat in Alaska's Alaska's Dutch harbor at least two people have been rescued since the distress call was sent out from the vessel Tuesday night a search for the missing spans of three hundred square mile area. Southwest West Air Station. Kodak the Truck Metal Company u-haul says it'll stop hiring people who use nicotine company chief Jessica Lopez says the policy only only applies to you whole sites in twenty one states where the restrictions are allowed. Our in house counsel has analyzed state and local laws and as a result our policy was crafted. So as to not not conflict or violate any legal protections for nicotine us So we certainly hope that we do not face any legal challenges. Existing workers will be exempt zapped from U hauls new policy which set to take effect in February. French president. Emmanuel macron is pushing vowing to push through his overhaul the country's retirement Tiran system NPR's. Eleanor appears Lee. Reports that macron's New Year's Eve remarks angered union leaders the transport strike. Paralysed the Paris metro for twenty eight days. Now is not likely to end anytime soon. The dipoto in a bar Tuesday night train drivers scoffed as they listened to mccollum describe his retirement reformers more just and equitable can communicate other. They vowed to keep up the pressure until macron buckles in an interview Philippe Martinez head of the hardline. CGT Union said. They clearly have to get tougher senior before we have to sound the alarm even louder because this president clearly clearly has an understood he said so far majority of the public supports the strikers. Many feel the pinch an overhaul will have people working longer for less macron. It has so far been unable to explain his project and convince dubious public. Eleanor beardsley NPR news. Paris and from Washington this is. NPR News Police in Hong Kong report. Roughly four hundred arrests during massive demonstrations there on Wednesday officers use pepper spray and tear gas after one group of demonstrators threw Molotov cocktails vandalized banks on ATM machines. The city's New Year's celebration was subdued this year. Following months of pro-democracy caressed Germany has shut down another reactor and yet another step toward the country's ending the country's use of nuclear power by the year. Twenty twenty two. NPR's Rob Schmitz has more from Berlin after thirty five years of providing electricity to Germany's grid. Operators began shutting. Down Southern Germany's Philipsburg plant this this week. The plant is supplied. Six percent of the energy for the German state of bad Vittenberg but the energy source has long been unpopular in the region which is run by the Green Party. The twenty eleven Fukushima nuclear disaster Japan led to widespread anti-atomic power protests across Germany. Two months after the accident Chancellor Angela Merkel announce that all atomic plants Lance would-be. Shut down over the next decade making Germany the second country after Italy to shut down all Tomic energy stations however the head of the office in charge of the nuclear phase out has has admitted it will be a great challenge for Germany to phase out both nuclear and coal within the next two decades as planned rob Schmitz. NPR News Berlin severe flooding for monsoon rains in and around Indonesia's capital has claimed at least sixteen lives more than thirty thousand people are displaced by the deadliest floods to hit the region in years large large sections of the Jakarta area bracing for strong winds after being inundated over the past two days. I'm Shay Stevens N._P._R.. News in Washington.
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"Coming up on five minute news. Britain's Prince Andrew to step back from public duties. Ambassador testimony blows holes in trump's CBS Ukraine defense and fossil fuel production on track for double the safe climate limit. It's Wednesday November twenty. I'm Anthony Davis Britain's Prince Andrew said today. He is stepping back from public duties with the Queen's permission. Andrew said has become clear to him in recent days his that his association with the late convicted sex offender. Jeffrey Epstein had become a major distraction to the royal. Family's work he said. He regrets his his association with the former. US businessmen and he deeply sympathizes with his victims. The prince said his mother Queen Elizabeth. The second had given him permission to step back from royal duties. Andrew has been heavily criticised for his performance in a TV interview on Saturday in which he failed to to express concern for epsteins victims. He seemed to show no remorse for his close association with a convicted sex offender who had abused many any underage girls some charities that he has worked with as patron have said they were reviewing their association with the Prince Because of his actions Epstein was awaiting trial on sex trafficking charges rubbing his alleged victims of a chance for their day in court. He's death on the tenth of August in New York. Prison has been ruled. A suicide by the city's Medical Examiner Andrew said Epstein suicide left. Many unanswered questions pins a star witness. The impeachment inquiry has delivered a devastating blow. Oh to Donald Trump testifying about the existence of a quid pro quo with Ukraine and insisting we followed the President's orders Gordon in Sunland the US ambassador to the European Union stunned Washington with bombshell evidence. That blew a hole in the White House defenses implicated numerous senior your officials and left the US president facing probable impeachment before a wrapped congressional committee and TV audience of millions. Sunlen told how trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani sought to condition and Oval Office meeting with the new Ukrainian President Vladimir Zilenski in exchange inge for politically motivated investigations of trump's rivals. I know that members of this committee have frequently framed. These complicated issues in the form a simple question was there a quid pro quo. The ambassador said as I testified previously with regard to the requested White House coal and White House House meeting the answer is yes sunland. A wealthy hotelier and trump donor has been described as one of the so called three Amigos Amigos. The administration used to bypass Usual State Department channels to Ukraine. He'd been billed as the witness who most alarmed officials at the White House US fears that rapidly proved to be well founded he asserted that an Oval Office meeting with trump was dependent on Ukraine announcing investigations Asians into Barista a gas company linked to the son of former vice president Joe Biden and a widely discredited conspiracy theory that Ukraine planted evidence on a server of the Democratic Party to show Russia into hid in the two thousand sixteen election. Trump's impeachment by the democratic controlled World House would put him on trial in the Senate but a Republican majority there seems likely to acquit him and keep him in office in. The world's nations are on track to produce more than twice as much coal oil and and gas as can be burned in twenty thirty while restricting rise in the global temperature to one point. Five degrees Centigrade analysis shows. The report is the first to compare countries stated plans for fossil fuel extraction with the goals of the Paris climate agreement which is to keep global heating well below two degrees centigrade above pre industrial levels and to aim for one point five degrees. It exposes a huge gap with fossil fuel production auction in two thousand thirty heading fifty percent more than is consistent with two degrees and one hundred twenty percent more than that for one point. Five degrees scientists have warned that even the difference between one point five and two centigrade of heating will expose hundreds of millions of people to significantly the higher risks of extreme heatwaves and poverty. The report was produced by the UN Environment Program and a coalition of research organizations. It it complements an earlier. UN analysis showing the current Paris agreement pledges to cut emissions would still leads to catastrophic three to four degrees Centigrade aide rise most of the action pledges made by countries under the Paris deal. Do not even mention changes to production You can subscribe to five minute news with your favorite podcast APP Oscar Smart Speaker or enable five minute news us as your Amazon Alexa Flash briefing skill. Follow us on twitter at five men news. Five minute. News is an independent production covering covering politics inequality health and climate delivering honest verified and truthful World News daily.
NPR News: 01-01-2020 3PM ET
"Live from NPR news in Washington. I'm Barbara Klein. Secretary of State. Mike pompeo is postponing trip to Ukraine to help deal with the deteriorating area rating security situation in Baghdad. NPR's Jackie Northam reports. The decision comes after another day of protests outside the US embassy in the Iraqi capital Secretary Pompeo had planned to leave on Thursday on a five day tour including Kiev where he was due to meet with Ukrainian President Vladimir Zilenski for the first time since president trump was impeached in part for his conduct towards Ukraine. The State Department says the trip is now postponed. So pompeo monitor the ongoing ongoing situation in Iraq earlier in the day. US forces in Iraq used tear-gas on supporters of a run back militias outside the embassy before the protesters there's withdrew from the area U. S. Marines have been dispatched from neighboring Kuwait to deal with the increasingly tense situation at the embassy in Baghdad. The Pentagon has also authorized the immediate deployment of seven hundred fifty soldiers to the region. Jackie Northam NPR news. Australia's navy is being deployed right to help communities ravaged by raging bushfires Michael Sullivan reports navy ships and planes bringing in supplies food fuel and water to communities cities inaccessible by road due to the fires. They're also bringing in more firefighters to help battle the blazes which have destroyed these ten million acres of land and at least a thousand thousand homes in New South Wales alone more than one hundred fires are still burning in the neighboring state of Victoria. Roughly four thousand people in the coastal town of Mullahs. Kuta fled to the waterfront. After fires threatened to engulf the entire town. Cooler temperatures on Wednesday are giving authorities the chance to restore power four and communications in some areas but officials warn higher temperatures and the threat of more fires will return by this weekend for NPR news. I'm Michael Sullivan. In in Chiang Rai Thailand starting today nearly seven million Americans are getting a slight pay raise as NPR's Scott horsely reports minimum. Wages Ages are going up in twenty two states. Lawmakers in nine states voted to boost the minimum wage this year voters or pay raise for minimum wage workers in six days and seven Evans states or hiking. Their minimum says part of an automatic adjustment for inflation. All told some six point. Eight million low wage workers are in line for a pay increase raises uses range from ten cents an hour in Florida to a buck and a half in New Mexico and Washington state collectively. The higher minimums will boost paychecks by an extra eight point two billion dollars so over the course of the year. In addition nearly two dozen cities and counties have adopted their own higher minimum wages the federal minimum has increased in more than a decade and during during that time the purchasing power. The wage has fallen by seventeen percent Scott horsely. NPR News Washington this is NPR in Germany. Investigators trying to determine whether New Year's Eve fireworks caused a fire that burned down part of a zoo. It destroyed the monkey sanctuary. Thank jewelry and all of the animals died. That's more than thirty. A rang attends chimpanzees and gorillas Germany is the largest importer of fireworks works in the EU. Hundreds of thousands across the country set off explosives each year on New Year's Eve for Major College. Football Games are on on tap this New Year's Day including the one hundred Sixth Rose Bowl in Pasadena California as Chuck Hornbach of member station W. W. M. Reports Oregon takes on Wisconsin. Wisconsin lost three rose bowls in a row from two thousand eleven to two thousand thirteen. But badgers are seeking revenge against one of those opponents. The Oregon Ducks Wisconsin. which was runner up to Ohio? State in the big ten is hoping for a big day from star running back. Jonathan Taylor Act twelve champion Oregon as counting on top quarterback Justin Herbert Los Angeles Times report steel barriers have been installed at the Rose Bowl and rose rose parade to reduce the risk of vehicle related terrorism for NPR news. I'm Chuck Chromebook in Los Angeles. The US Army is banning banning soldiers from using the tick tock APP on their government owned work phones. The APP is owned by the Chinese company. Bite dance and the army says it's a cyber security threat. The navy already prohibits it. I'm Barbara Klein N._P._R.. News in Washington.
November 21, 2019: Impeachment inquiry rolls on
"Good Morning I'm Taylor Wilson and this is five things you need to know. Thursday the twenty first of November number two thousand nine hundred ninety nine a reminder you can tweet us at USA Today podcast if you have any thoughts about these stories manner tweet might be featured on the a show on Wednesday. We asked what you would ask Democratic candidates on the debate stage Trojan eleven o nine said the possibility of a looming recession and in order Chapman general corruption in the party. Join the conversation at USA. Today podcast now onto the show began. Yeah you started. Look I would direct my justice department like this president does let them make their independent judgement. I would not dictate who should be prosecuted prosecutors. We have to establish the principle. No one is above the law. We have a constitutional responsibility and we need to meet. I have made it very clear that this impeachable conduct what we have a criminal living in the White House and there is no question that in two thousand twenty the biggest issue before us until we get to that tender moment is justice is on the ballot. Certainly we have a president who is not only a pathological liar. He is likely the most corrupt president in the modern history. Three of a miracle impeachment was a major thread on the debate stage Wednesday night as twenty twenty Democratic presidential candidates largely agreed that the President Donald Trump was in the wrong regarding Ukraine other highlights included disagreements on tax policies. Rich Americans ended debate about foreign policy with a Hawaii congresswoman. Tulsi Gabbard taking a swing at the Clintons who she said believe in foreign policy driven by greedy corporate interests but but California Senator Kamala Harris shot back at Gabbard saying she spent four years on Fox News. Criticizing Obama meanwhile it was another rough night for former vice president. Joe Biden before the debate even began his campaign mistakenly sent out an email to supporters. Meant to go out after the debate but Biden also had flood on stage including when he mentioned support from the only woman elected to the Senate as he put it Harris Though incredulously referred to herself in response saying quote the other one is right here on quote two more. Witnesses are set to testify in the impeachment inquiry on Thursday. The scheduled testimonies come after a busy Wednesday so trump ally and US ambassador to the European Union. Gordon sunland testify. Silane said that trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani juliani requested a quid pro quo on trump's behalf by pressing Ukraine to make a statement into investigations trump sought as I testified defied previously Mr Giuliani's requests were a quid pro quo for arranging a White House visit for presidents Alinsky. Mr Giuliani demanded that Ukraine make a public statement announcing the investigations of the two thousand sixteen election. DNC Server and Barista. Mr Giuliani was expressing the desires of the president of the United States. And we knew the investigations were important to the president. Sunland also added that many trump administration officials were aware of what was happening the suggestion that we were engaged in some irregular or rogue. Diplomacy is absolutely false. I have now identified fide certain State Department emails and messages that provide contemporaneous support. For my view. Everyone was in the loop. It was no secret. Everyone was informed via e mail on July nineteenth days before the presidential bill. Call as I communicated to the team I told presidents Alinsky in advance that assurances to run a fully transparent investigation instigation and turn over every stone were necessary in his call with president trump but associated press reporter. Eric Tucker said that someone's credibility has been questioned by some other witnesses. One thing that's really important to notice it Gordon. Silent Is the person who's account more than any other other. Witnesses have been challenged by the other witnesses and so his credibility was already Considered suspect frankly entering this hearing. So that's going to be something that lawmakers we're going to have to untangle is if somebody had previously not been perceived as the most credible narrator of events. It's not clear that today you go in and suddenly to become the most trusted source of information on Thursday Fiona Hill is scheduled to appear hill was the former National Security Council Senior Director for Europe and Russia she previously said that former national security adviser. John Bolton was angry over efforts to arrange a White House meeting between trump and Ukrainian President Vladimir Zilenski in exchange for political investigations additionally David Holmes as political counselor at the US embassy in Kiev will appear here he previously said he overheard a phone. Call between trump and Gordon Sunland on July twenty sixth a day after trump allegedly had a phone call with Zilenski. Simon confirmed the July twenty. Six call happened next up. A former American idol sensation is set for sentencing. Thirty two year old and Ella Barba above made the shows last sixteen when she was just nineteen years old but in the years since she suffered from bipolar disorder and other mental health problems according to court reports and hand in October of two thousand eighteen authorities in Norfolk Virginia found nearly two pounds of sentinel in her car. Prosecutors are seeking a prison term of of nearly five years behind bars. Stargazers will get a rare treat on Thursday as a full-fledged Unicorn media or storm could appear in the night sky guy. According to the meteoric society several meteors per minute are possible at the height of the storm around eleven fifty. PM Eastern time. There's no guarantee the event will happen but media or scientists say there's a good chance to see the first Alpha Mono Sara Woods meteor shower since one thousand nine hundred five when there were about at four hundred meteors per hour according to accuweather the best viewing conditions are forecast for the Western and North Central. US where there are only patchy clouds. It's in the forecast and last up the NFL. Playoff picture is becoming clear by the week. Thursday nights divisional rivalry game between the Indianapolis Colts and Houston. Houston Texans Kicks Off Week twelve with major ramifications for both teams Nicole to one the first matchup in week seven thirty to twenty three and currently the whole day tie-break lead over the Texans in the AFC south both teams are six and four. You can tune in at eight twenty pm eastern time on Fox and NFL L. Network and you can catch new episodes of five things Monday through Saturday on apple podcasts. And wherever else you find your audio including the Google Home Amazon Echo you can also subscribe for free man drop us a rating and review if you'd like five things as part of the U._S._A.. Today podcast network.
The latest on impeachment: Two biblical imperatives
"This is the daily. Article podcast published by the Denison Forum or culture changing Christians to receive the daily article directly to your or email inbox each weekday morning visit the daily Article Dot Com now. Here's Today's news discerned differently speaker. Nancy Pelosi announced this week that the House of Representatives would initiate a formal impeachment inquiry President Donald Trump Mr trump could become only the fourth president in American history to face impeachment presidents. Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton were both impeached by the House but acquitted by the Senate President President Nixon resigned as the house was preparing an impeachment vote. This announcement is both historic and momentous in his introduction to impeachment and American American History Jeffrey a angle rates that impeachment disrupts the American political landscape as few other events do leaving scars forever dimming the political critical careers of all involved the Wall Street Journal explains that the impeachment process generally includes a house investigation Gatien hearings and a markup of articles of impeachment or written accusations traditionally such articles have been drafted by the Judiciary Committee once cleared by that committee. They're immediately considered on the House floor. A simple majority is required for impeachment. Three types of conduct are typically seen in his constituting grounds for impeachment abusing or exceeding the powers of the office behavior incompatible with the function or purpose of the office or or misusing the office for an improper purpose or for personal gain. If the House impeaches Mr Trump house managers will then be selected to make their case before for the Senate a two-thirds majority is required to convict the president and remove him from office however as CNN notes Senate Republicans likely have have the votes to easily dismiss the charges with the current parties Split Twenty Republicans would have to join every Democrat in the Senate in voting to remove the president the process could take months representatives Jerry Nadler Chairman of the Judiciary Committee says he hopes to conclude their work by the end of the year. If the House then and votes to impeach the trial in the Senate could take many weeks for instance. The House approved an impeachment inquiry for President Clinton on October Eighth Nineteen Ninety. Maybe eight but the Senate did not acquit him until February twelfth nineteen ninety nine six. House committees are already investigating investigating elements of the trump administration however the tipping point came with President Trump's July twenty fifth conversation with Ukrainian President Vladimir Zilenski Sqi Democratic leaders allege that Mr Trump betrayed his oath of office and undermine national security during his call by seeking to enlist of foreign power to turn a rival for personal political gain. They claim that Mr trump pressured the Ukrainian president to investigate Joe Biden and his son hunter during the Obama Obama Administration Vice President Biden worked with Ukrainian government at a time when his son served on a board of the country's largest private gas company a position gene for which he was reportedly paid up to fifty thousand dollars a month Rudy Giuliani. The president's attorney has alleged that Vice President Biden worked to protect his son from corruption investigations Democratic leaders in the House claim that Mr Trump tried to pressure the Ukrainian president to investigate the Biden's so as is to benefit the president personally they also note that he withheld three hundred ninety one million dollars in military aid approved by Congress one week before the phone uncall- a so-called whistle blower reported his or her concerns about the July twenty fifth conversation prompting the investigation that followed Mr Trump states what's that he withheld the funds to encourage other countries to support Ukraine and that there was no quid pro quo in his July twenty fifth conversation he he authorized the release of the fully declassified and unredacted transcript of his conversation with President Zilenski which you can read here. The whistle blowers complaint complaint was hand delivered to Capitol Hill yesterday for lawmakers to review the person has tentatively agreed to meet with Congressional lawmakers the White House claims claims that this person has political bias in favor of a rival candidate of the President Studies indicate that Congress this is more polarized today than at any time since the civil war Pew Research Center has documented in ever widening gap between Democrats and Republicans in America Arca on a variety of social issues. I assume Americans will be just as divided over the impeachment inquiry with the president's critics supporting his impeachment and his supporters opposing such action. The purpose of the daily article is not to provide personal or political commentary but to offer Biblical perspective on the news and cultural issues in that context. I believe this acrimonious. Time is an opportunity for those whose highest allegiance is not to a president or or a political party but to their king whatever our view of president trump or his opponents. Let's remember to biblical imperatives as the impeachment inquiry very proceeds one as I timothy two one through two shows we are called to pray for our leaders and respect their office even even if we do not respect the person this principle applies to leaders of both parties across the political spectrum if they are in public office they are to receive devour intercession to we are to speak truth in ways that glorify God and advance the common good if engines for twenty nine is is a perpetual command from the Lord when you talk do not say harmful things but say what people need words that will help others become stronger than what you say will do good to those who listened to you such speech will be a powerful witness in these polarizing days Frederick beak peak narrowed. If you want to be holy be kind. How holy will you be today. Would you consider I sharing this podcast with a friend family member or CO worker in order to help build a community of culture changing Christians. Thank you for listening to the daily daily Article podcast today.
More Solid Job Growth; High Court to Hear Key Abortion Case
"Striking scenery world-class Music and film festivals and authentic character are just a few reasons why telluride Colorado is a favorite summer destination telluride authorize offers endless outdoor activities catering to all passions and tastes for more information go to visit telluride dot com slash W. S. J. The economy continued to crank out jobs in September. What's comforting is that we now have solid actual data for the month. September and they showed that we're still creating a lot of jobs CBS. One hundred and thirty six thousand jobs and the Supreme Court will hear arguments on a Louisiana abortion case. This is the first true abortion case that we've had since justices neal gorsuch gorsuch and Brad Kavanagh both trump appointees joined over the last couple of years. I'm Charlie Turner and this is what's news from the Wall Street Journal. We'll have those stories in a moment first. Here's some other stories. We're following house. Democrats leading an impeachment proper asking for documents from Vice President Mike Pence related to president trump's policy towards Ukraine. It's the latest front in the investigation stemming from the president's request that Kiev look into Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden in and his son hunter among other Documents House Committee heads or seeking communications took place among officials at the Justice Energy and other departments about all calls meetings meetings and visits involving trump and Ukrainian President Vladimir Zilenski. The chairman stopped short of issuing a subpoena to Mr Pants but if threatened to subpoena the White House. If documentation isn't provided worries about potential hackers disrupting the twenty twenty presidential election resurfaced Friday Microsoft said that at least one US presidential campaign has been targeted by cyber attacks linked to the Iranian government. The Wall Street Journal's Bob Mcmillan says Microsoft's findings appear to be the first confirmation formation from a major tech company that twenty twenty presidential campaign has been targeted by a nation state hackers. It was conducted by a group that they call phosphorus. That's basically thought thought to be a rainy in hackers between August and September. This campaign tried to break into about twenty seven hundred email accounts. They were not successful the vast majority of them they did break into a few. Microsoft said it alerted the Democratic National Committee. Pay Pal says it's pulling out of the Lebron Network a company company spokesman says pay PAL will not participate in the group of companies facebook assembled to launch the global crypto currency payment network but remained supportive of Lebron's mission pay pals announcement comes days after the Wall Street. Journal reported that Visa Mastercard and other financial partners were reconsidering their involvement in the network following a regulatory Ori Backlash in Hong Kong street battles raged late Friday and the city subway operator suspended its entire network. The violence comes after the Chief Executive Carrie. Lam invoked emergency measures and ban people from wearing masks in an effort to quell the protests violating the ban would be punishable by as much as one year in prison and hepatitis. A. Outbreaks are erupting in the US across thirty states fueled in large part by the OPIOID epidemic more than twenty six thousand cases of the virus and two hundred fifty deaths have been reported since two thousand sixteen the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention say Hepatitis Titus. A cases are also occurring among users of other drugs including people sharing contaminated needles people who are homeless and men who have sex with men the CDC is recommending that at risk groups get hepatitis A. Vaccinations striking breaking scenery world-class Music and film festivals and authentic character are just a few reasons why telluride Colorado is a favourite summer destination telluride right offers endless outdoor activities catering to all passions and tastes for more information go to visit telluride dot com slash W. S. J. The September jobs report came out today with some good news employers added one hundred thirty six thousand jobs last month and and the unemployment rate fell to three point five percent. That's a fifty year low joining us from Washington to talk about what those numbers mean is Wall Street Journal Chief Economics commentator Tator Greg Hip Greg. Does this report indicate that the US economy is still solid enough to keep adding jobs at a strong clip. It sure looks that way. We've had a lot of worries about recession session. The lead given weakness in the stock market the decline in long-term bond interest rates and some survey data on manufacturing that's sort of recession like what's comforting is that we now have solid actual data for the month of September and they showed that we're still creating a lot of jobs one hundred thirty six thousand jobs and just give you an idea given the US demographics we should probably early expected only create eighty to one hundred thousand jobs per month over the long run so we're still creating jobs at a very fast clip relative to trend you just mentioned something about the demographics ethics does this tie in with the labor force participation rate. It's steady but still on the soft side. Yes the Sheriff people of Working Age who are actually working or looking for work we call that the participation Asian rate and we have seen that number declining the last few decades partly because the baby boomers are all retiring and for reasons that we don't fully understand some people of prime working years just are not working as much especially men without college degrees so that number has declined and it is one reason why the unemployment has fallen so much there just aren't as many people out there in the Labor or force looking for work now that said the labor force participation rate has stabilized in the last year or so so that's a positive but the fact that it's not going up does suggest that we're starting to run into some supply constraints in terms of new workers and that is why the unemployment rate fell to three point five percent the lowest in fifty years low unemployment. It is a very good sign. It just suggests that we have a nice tight labor market a hopefully it will generate stronger earnings although for the month. September did not actually translate into stronger earnings but it does suggest that this economy is starting to kind of run out of room and another point I would make is that if you look at the fact that unemployment declining suggested economy even though it's only growing around two percent might still be growing a little bit faster than it can sustain over the long run given how much labor supply we have kind of not a good sign. If this economy really can't sustain a growth rate of more than two percent. I get the impression that this employment report is mixed. As far as the Federal Reserve is concerned. The job growth number was a bit softer than expected. I think we we were looking for one hundred forty. Six thousand jobs to be created manufacturing employment fell reflecting the slump in the manufacturing sector on the other hand payrolls for August and July were revised. I upwards does the latest report. Keep the Fed on track to cut interest rates at the end of the month. Well I think for the Federal Reserve. The jobs report is kind of a wash so the fact that job job growth was very strong in September that was revised up for July and August should essentially a swot any concerns that the economy is starting to slide into recession. That's a sort of scenario that would have required certainly a rate cut at the end of this month and probably more rate cuts after that on the other hand. You did see very soft wage. Growth almost no increase increase in wages at all so that suggested the labor market you know is not so tight that we're going to have an inflation problem so that kind of argues against raising rates and perhaps not being as worried as some of the more hawkish members of the. Fed's policy-making committee are why are businesses adding jobs at a slower rate this year than in two thousand eighteen. Let's keep things in perspective. They are job. Growth has slowed but the pace is still very very healthy so there's nothing here to suggest that businesses as a whole have have suddenly lost their confidence. I would say that the economy is just logically starting to run up against some of its constraints it is literally quite difficult for employers especially at the low end to find the kinds of workers to do the jobs that they have available so that constraint on its own is going to slow job growth also oh you do have a few factors weighing on the overall economy the trade war the slowing global economy those really have taken the wind out of the sales of the manufacturing sector business investments seems to dial back. Perhaps because businesses are a little uncertain about the look. Those factors are also perhaps trimming the hiring appetite of Employers Wall Street Journal Chief Economics commentator Greg joining us from Washington. Thanks Greg. Thank you Charlie. The Supreme Court's new term begins next week and one of several new cases on its docket focuses on abortion. The court has agreed to review a Louisiana Law that requires choirs doctors who provide abortions to hold admitting privileges at a nearby hospital the law was enacted in two thousand fourteen and has been challenged by abortion rights proponents proponents here with more on this case Wall Street Journal Legal Affairs correspondent Brett Kendall Brent one notable aspect of this abortion case is the new do more conservative makeup of the Supreme Court. Isn't that right that's right. This is the first true abortion case that we've had since justices neal gorsuch and Brad Cavanaugh both trump appointees joined over the last couple of years and and while there has been huge intense public focus over abortion abortion rights and and what the new appointees may think I mean all of that is not going to you know ev- every abortion dispute in the future. Ra- won't be resolved in this new case but the case will give us our first sort of window into what the new guys think on this issue. What exactly does the law say well so this Louisiana Dan law is substantially similar to one from Texas that the Supreme Court has already considered an and then what these laws basically said was that if you are a physician in providing abortions you need to have hospital admitting privileges within thirty miles of where procedures are being performed but you know a lot of abortion doctors don't have have admitting privileges and abortions. Aren't the kind of thing that often land people in the hospital and so people critical of these laws say. There's really nothing nothing going on here. In terms of trying to be improved safety outcomes. This is all just kind of a back doorway to limit access to abortion. You know now the state say well. No that's not right. We really do have legitimate health and safety concerns here and as as you know states taking care of our people we have every right every right to do so so there's basically a double edged question here for the court. I mean the biggest question is whether these types of restrictions impose an undue undue burden on the constitutional right to abortion and if they do they're unconstitutional and if if these aren't overly burdensome than than they can pass muster but then the second second piece of this is given that the Supreme Court already said the Texas law imposed an undue burden whether it would do anything different on this case obviously the the the two new trump appointees weren't there for the earlier case which adds a bit of intrigue for the new one but so we have we have questions here about both you know the scope of abortion rights Annan how the Supreme Court is going to treat past precedent even fairly recent past precedent well from a personnel standpoint. I think judge Anthony Kennedy ruled against that Texas Law and chief justice. John Roberts was a dissenter. That's right so suggest as Kennedy who was long considered the quote Unquote Swing Justice on the court was pretty crucial to to most of the courts abortion rights rulings and and the last one he was involved in before he retired was was Texas case listen so that case was five three it was decided not too long after justice Antonin Scalia died otherwise it likely would have been five four so you ahead Justice Kennedy and the courts four liberal justices striking down the Texas law chief justice was in dissent then you know he's kind of the median justice now and he's is also justice who as chief is sort of steward for the courts institutional role and has preached the need to respect court precedent in most circumstances this is and so here he'll be faced with you now a follow up case and whether to abide by a respecting you know a decision from just a few years ago that he didn't he didn't I agree with at the time. What's the timetable on this? Brent one will they hear the case and when will a decision be expected so at this point. The court is filling out. It's counter for the the beginning of next year so we'll likely hear this case January February. Maybe March probably earlier than that and then we'll see a ruling by the end of June. I will note that. This case is just the latest of many super hot button issues that are already on the courts calendar. We've got gay rights. We've got gun rights and a whole host of other things is in and some of these just really kind of controversial issues and the rulings on them. You know are likely to come in in June so that's going to be right in the thick of next year's presidential election election and depending on how these cases come out you know could make the court front and center again as an election issue while voters are trying to decide who they want in the White House and who they want picking future justices joining us from Washington Brent Kendall of the Wall Street Journal. Thanks Brent Scher. Thank you and that's what's news for this Friday evening. I'm Charlie Turner for the Wall Street Journal. Thanks for listening.
Tuesday, July 2, 2019 - The Christian Science Monitor Daily
"<music> welcome to the Monitor daily podcast. It's Tuesday July second. Thanks for joining us. I'm Linda Feldman Feldman Thomas Shulz consider a question. What do you think of Donald Trump just about anywhere in the world? It's a conversation starter and in Moscow. The reactions can be priceless last Friday after a week in Russia. I asked my cabdriver to share his thoughts. Andre didn't hesitate trump is a strong oncle. The driver said he drinks the blood of babies or as he said in Russian on puled croff blood defensive under meant this as a compliment in an allusion to tales of how Russian czars got their energy energy then he added this on President Trump. He looks like a world leader he has money he has everything I had just attended my seventh Dartmouth Conference. Since two thousand fifteen a dialogue dialogue for prominent Americans and Russians to brainstorm ways to improve a steadily worsening relationship between our two countries arms control regional conflicts and cultural matters were on the table are joint recommendations and then shared at senior levels of both governments but it's the peripheral interactions the meals the excursions that give the process. It's juice by now. Core participants greet each other as old friends friends. New participants with new ideas are welcomed. We also watched proudly as Dartmouth veterans or call to officials service as with U._S.. Ambassador James Jeffrey and Russian professor vitale known can both envoys on Syria. We can't help but think that they're dartmouth. Experiences have informed their diplomacy then there's Andre the cabdriver understanding him and other average Russians puts the rarefied. Defied Dartmouth discussions into a larger context Andres reaction to Mr Trump came as no surprise when I asked about Vladimir Putin Andrei is noncommittal. Maybe good maybe not perhaps that's a reflection of the Russian president's softening popularity but he says Putin is eternal. Nobody can replace him. When I broke the turmoil in Ukraine Andres Native Country Three he dismisses the new President Vladimir Zilenski as a comedian and doesn't even mention President Putin? He looks again to a leader. He clearly admires if trump was president. He says he would restore restored order in this part of the world. The love of perceived strongmen lives especially from afar now to our five stories we look at the quieter moves chiefs of the High Court's term Ireland's rethinking of sexual assault trials and Hawaiians take on Independence Day our first story sometimes the Supreme Court decisions that don't make headlines May wind up having more significance the Supreme Court term that just ended was relatively quiet on merits cases although the partisan gerrymandering decision will have major long term ramifications as could the court's it's unanimous decision to rein in civil asset forfeiture by law enforcement but a number of actions on the court shadow docket could have major implications for the next term during a presidential election campaign and beyond definitions of the shadow doc ID very but it essentially encompasses every decision the justices make that doesn't receive an oral argument these decisions can rain from declining to hear case to staying or declining to stay the execution of a death row inmate partly partly because the justices often debate and decide them behind closed doors they rarely received the widespread attention that major decisions to among the quiet but potentially major moves deciding capital punishment cases sidestepping abortion. In cases in taking up cases on Daca Obamacare in school choice next term this term has been slow on merit actions but it has been an interesting term on the shadow docket says Josh Blackman in associate professor at the South Texas College wlob. We've had these small orders that have been quiet but fairly significant. This story was reported by Henry Gas for the Monitor in the Pacific northwest. A growing number of advocates are questioning the conventional wisdom that the interests of salmon and hydropower are inherently at odds as salmon populations grow increasingly vulnerable. Some advocates in Idaho are calling for a solution that in the past I was unthinkable breached the dams that stand in the way of the fish as they return to the ocean to spot in a region that has long relied on Hydro Electric Power and grain exports the idea of forgoing reliable electricity and removing moving navigable waters faces uphill battle but it is gaining traction in unexpected quarters recognizing that hydro power is no longer Idaho's cheapest option Republican representative. Mike Simpson of Idaho proposed breaching some of Idaho's damps after spending sixteen billion dollars on salmon recovery over the last however many years is it working he asked in a speech to stakeholders on April twenty third. All of Idaho's salmon runs are either threatened or endangered. Look at the number number of returning salmon and the trend line is not going up. It's going down. Conservationists suggest that the plan might work according to Justin Hayes Executive Director of the Idaho Conservation League. If you get out of their way the fish will make a pretty significant return. This story was reported by Mark Trumbull in Boise Idaho for the Monitor Ireland's metoo moment a highly publicized and criticized trial of two rugby rugby players accused of rape last year. Maybe fueling change the island is working to improve the way it handles rape and sexual abuse trials Northern Ireland's metoo moment came last year during the march trial royal of two rugby players charged with raping a woman the trial illustrated why survivors are often hesitant to report rape and sexual assault set advocates the accuser endured hostile cross examination lawyers questioned why she didn't. <unk> scream suggested she had pursued one of the men and pastor bloody underwear around the courtroom. The jury deliberated for less than four hours before acquitting all defendants. The response echoed across the island. I believe her now. Ireland Ireland in Northern Ireland are taking steps toward reforming the way sexual violence cases are investigated and tried and may an independent review recommended changes to make the process less onerous for victims including ending public access zest to such trials allowing cross examination before trial and playing a recording of it during proceedings in educating juries to combat rape myths changes like this would help rebalance the system says no lean blackwell head of the Dublin rape the crisis center the structure dealing with victims of intimate violence should be different to the structure dealing with other types of crime which do not impact in the same traumatic ways on victims. This story was reported by Kristen Chick in Dublin for the Monitor along. What does American liberty mean it depends on whom you ask well? Independence Day is joyful celebration for many Americans for some native Hawaiians. It's a painful reminder under of the loss of sovereignty this is when they saw all of our land Kunia Freitas recalls her mother seething during a film depicting the early arrival of Americans on Hawaiian shorts throughout her childhood doctor free heard <unk> heard this refrain with little explanation. It wasn't until later that she piece together the full history of her Homeland Prior to becoming the Fiftieth U._S. state in nineteen fifty nine who why was a sovereign territory in eighteen ninety three American American businessmen and plantation owners overthrew the constitutional monarchy for Dr Fritos. July fourth is a reminder of cultural loss in the century following the overthrow many native Hawaiians lost touch with their cultural roots. Now Director of Wind Studies at the University of Hawaii at Manoa. Dr Fritos is hardened to see a revival of native Hawaiian scholarship a quiet but emphatic current of activism ranging from environmental advocacy. To a push for Hawaiian sovereignty runs throughout the native Hawaiian community former state representative her Meena Morita sees hope that activism particularly the resurgence in environmental advocacy we belong to the land. She says that's the most significant part of being Hawaiian. We are a part of this place. This story was reported by Noel Swan in Honolulu for the Monitor battling post traumatic attic stress Kevin Flake found a sense of purpose helping others. This is part one in the summer series on people who are facing and successfully navigating America's most intractable challenges. Do you think this is any any way for you to honor your fallen comrades. That was the question Kevin Flakes wife Kimberly Po's to him when he was at rock bottom a green beret he had been badly wounded in Afghanistan. He struggled to put on his own socks. He was abusing his is prescription medication. All the accumulated problems of his marriage came to a head and he asked Kimberly for a divorce. It's an all too familiar story for American veterans who struggled to resume civilian life after their deployments on average twenty twenty die by suicide every day as the war in Afghanistan approaches its nineteenth year Mr Flake whose wife not only refused to divorce him but encouraged him to get his M._B._A.. And a masters in public policy from Harvard has emerged from that darkness yes in part by helping other struggling with post traumatic stress. He is equally hopeful about America's trajectory going forward. Take it from a man who has been through Helen back. He says there is a light at the end of the tunnel and Burns even brighter than you can imagine Agean. This story was reported by Christie Case Brian Inland in Boston Massachusetts for the Monitor now commentary on political hate crimes from the Monitor's editorial board dueling protests have now become common moster peaceful often due to effective police work. Many officials have learned how to better control demonstrators bent on violence ever since the two thousand seventeen tragedy in. In Charlottesville Virginia yet street brawls have once again erupted in the United States this time during a June twenty nine clash between left-wing and right-wing groups in Portland Oregon. Many people were injured injured notably journalist Andy. No three people were arrested. Police promised to examine videos to make additional arrests like other American cities Portland continues to provide public spaces for free speech each despite rising calls among some ideologues who seek to deny any public forum for the expression of ideas they oppose democracy will continue to improve only by peaceful persuasion instead of by intolerance tolerance and intimidation the public dialogue needed to end inequities in society requires a respect for each individual's freedom of conscience such freedom extends to public places where peaceful peaceful rallies should remain peaceful and only as we examine our own attitudes and actions a nation must move from reliance on barricades to keep people apart to all citizens upholding safe spaces in which they start to listen to each other. That's a wrap for the news. You can find the full length versions of these stories in today's issue or at C._S.. Monitor auditor dot com slash daily. Thanks so much for joining us today. Come back tomorrow. A trip to Seoul South Korea reminded correspondent Martin coups of his former editor a Korean War veteran who became came Nevada's governor and believe that a sense of independence can coexist with a desire to unite in today's Christian Science Spiritual Perspective column consider how genuine justice is treasured and sought after her by people the world over and how it can have a healing impact in one's life. You can find the column in today's issue or at C._S.. MONITOR DOT com slash daily. We want to give a quick thanks to our staff including today's audio production team Samantha Lane Purpose Tori silver and Jeff Burton.
Communist China Turns 70 Amid Hong Kong Unrest
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Parades and police communist China celebrates. Its seventieth birthday. Thank found flying kites even homing pigeons to make sure that I'm secure and secretary of state it makes Pompeo took part in president trump's July phone call with Ukraine's president which shows that a whole new level at fault plus. The fourth quarter begins today. This is what's news from the Wall Street Journal. I'm Kim ghetto. Send let's get started now before we take a look at today's celebrations in Beijing for the seventieth anniversary of Communist China. Here's what you missed secretary of State Mike pompeo one of the people who listened in on July twenty fifth phone call between president trump and Ukraine's President Vladimir Zilenski. That's according to a senior State Department official Tom from Washington. CD GHERMAN has more. That's particularly significant because it brings the State Department closer into the Democrats impeachment richman inquiry which is ongoing on Capitol Hill. You pay has been out in the front answering questions or declining tantrums. Christians a valid this whistleblower complaint inch without ever revealing that he in fact was aware of the Colin was on the call so it's an interesting development. Mr Pompeo who's in Europe this week said last week that to his knowledge actions by the State Department officials had been quote entirely appropriate and consistent with administration efforts to improve relations with the Ukraine Sadie says that the fact that Mr Pompeo listened in on the call is important to the impeachment inquiry which is focused on president trump's dealings with Ukraine rain. Well it shows that a whole new level of administration officials were involved in the handling of the whistle blower complaint and we had first hand knowledge of the of of call that took place and raises new questions about how government officials handled applicable is concerned we report that the scrutiny of the call with Ukraine has prompted a wider examination of efforts by the trump administration to engage foreign leaders in assisting with issues important to the president and here's a proposal that could could potentially end or at least dramatically shrink one of the largest and most complex pieces of litigation the US has ever seen it has to do with the thousands of lawsuits against pharmaceutical companies that manufacture opioids according to internal documents and a person familiar with the matter Endo International Johnson and Johnson then and other Pharma companies facing lawsuits related to the crisis are considering joining Purdue Pharma's bankruptcy filing Saron dozo explains yeah so it'd be a pretty novel idea where the companies themselves which include Johnson Johnson and the mother wouldn't themselves be filing for bankruptcy but they essentially the piggybacking on purdue Pharma existing bankruptcy and contributing money to the same funds at purdue giving money to and the idea would be to get released from the bankruptcy court that were alleviate follow the opioid cases against them so they see this as potentially creative way to get a court order saying at this is a global settlement it gets you out of all these lawsuits and essentially achieve the true Vogel Resolution few caveats the idea is still in its early stages stages and no dollar figures have yet been discussed and the concept would need buy in from Purdue Pharma and its owners the sackler family as well as a critical mass of state attorneys attorneys general and look municipalities suing the companies purdue. Pharma declined to comment and some good news New York City's poverty rate has has fallen to a historic low according to census data the city's poverty rate fell by three point six percent between twenty thirteen in two thousand eighteen to seventeen point three percent. That's its lowest level since the nineteen seventies and follows similar trends across the country now our main story this morning that was the scene earlier today as China's President Xi Jinping presided over a military parade celebrating the seventieth India anniversary of communist China speaking after a playing of the national anthem and a seventy gun salute Mr she said the founding of the Communist ruled state had had reversed China's tragic fate of being quote bullied and humiliated for more than a century instead he said China was now on the road to a quote great rejuvenation Jeremy Pages in Beijing and he watched it all unfold so Jeremy. Can you give us a sense of the scale of these celebrations. I was looking at some of the images they're pretty impressive. Yes they are massive scale. I mean they'll have this sort of whole. Country comes to a bit of a holds and they've gone to some fairly extraordinary measures to ensure that everything happens correctly and smoothly and all sorts of regulations that were imposed just over the last few days and weeks and flying kites and even homing pigeons to make sure that the skies were were secure for thing among among other things are going to release seventy thousand doves and seventy thousand balloons deals at all that if military aircraft flying overhead and it was uh-huh civilian parade which involved about one hundred thousand people some seventy thousand flights file so quite a celebration. I mean what does this this sort of demonstration show. When it comes to Mr She's hold on power guests. Will it's clearly designed to show that he she is very firmly in control not takes center stage for the entire thing you know he he he made a short speech from on top of the tenement engage which is where Mao Zedong declared the establishment of the People's Republic of China back in nineteen forty nine so it's versus versus of Redland with stoorikhel political significance that he he no he stands in the same place to make the speech and then and then he goes down onto the tenement square and gets in a limousine which has sort of like a sunroof and he stands stands up in his vehicle. Oh and is driven past the assembled troops so you know it's a pretty vivid demonstration of the personal power that he's imbued with and that's that's very important for him but you know same time he's he needs to project this image of strength because at the moment there are all these challenges to his authority and it's very hard to tell how strong he really is because one doesn't know what's going on behind the scenes but what we we do know is that you know he's facing some formidable challenges both in terms of the economy the US trade war now exacerbating an economic slowdown. There was already underway. What about Hong Kong. Have we seen anything happened there today. And how big a challenge are the protests happening there for the president she will today. I think you know the patent. Hong Kong is that there were the worst clashes the most violent clashes of being at at night. They have mostly been the weekend of the last few weeks about protesters made it clear that they were gonNA try to stage age more protests today knowing that this was hugely politically sipping significant anniversary and likewise on Komo authorities. The police have made it clear. Ah Y'ALL GONNA crack down hard on any behavior they consider illegal so I expect we're going to see the worst clashes his later on this evening so these celebrations and today what next what happens after the sort of parades or cleared the era and the confetti sped away well in a way you know everyone breathes a sigh of relief in has been an immense amount of time and energy which is invested lasted in trying to ensure that this goes off without a hitch and projects the right image and especially the the protests in Hong. I'm confident overshadow it in some way so you know once we've got through the rest of the rest of the day you know things in a way a sort of go back to normal certainly in the mainland but in. Hong Kong protests will continue and follow the the PAT and they have over the last few weeks then we'll Komo protests this weekend and you know that that crisis is not is not going to end in the foreseeable future you can find our full coverage including a slide show of the seventieth anniversary events and the reaction in Hong Kong up on. WSJ DOT COM with over thirty feet of snow last season telluride is ready for another stellar year filled with powder days and bluebird skies continually ranked the number one ski resort in North America by readers of Conde NAST traveler telluride boasts no lift lines and exceptional terrain for all levels and abilities ladies telluride is tucked into a box canyon surrounded by thirteen thousand and fourteen thousand foot peaks giving the destination an intimate setting with jaw dropping views an endless outdoor activities. The historic town of telluride is connected to the more modern mountain village by a free thirteen thirteen minute Gondola ride. The Gondola is the only transportation system of its kind in North America. It's easy to travel to telluride as it is to vacation occasion there with nonstop flights from Eleven Major Hubs Wall Street Journal podcast listeners receive thirty percent off early season lodging to book go to visit telluride dot com slash W. S. J. on two markets. Yesterday was the last day of the third quarter. We talked a bit about it in our afternoon. Show the S. and P. Five hundred closed with a nineteen percent gain for the year to date. That's its best performance since nineteen ninety seven so what does the last quarter of the year have in store. Here's Paul Davies with more so he's going to be another call where it's very difficult for investors to work out how now and where to make money the stock market is still near record highs but it's not done brilliantly this quarter at the same time bond yields across the boards heading lower. Oh and Laura gain is there are worries about the economy globally in the US and globally and then we've got to pretty important centreback meetings coming up in October right at the end of the month we we have the Federal Reserve and then just before that we've got the European Central Bank the final meeting of President Mario Draghi before he hands over to Christine Lagarde as the incoming president and they're real challenges to try and get European governments to stop spending some money and here's what else we're paying attention to today A. US authorities alleged yesterday that a tour guide the Chinese visitors to California was also secretly working for Chinese intelligence. The unsealed criminal complaint involving a double agent dead drops and the end bundles of cash. Here's David Anderson the US District Attorney for Northern California Venice name is Shula also known as Edward Pong Pong is alleged to be a secret agent of the SS Pong is alleged to have delivered classified national security information of the United States from the United States to the PR to most of the World Hong presented himself himself as a fifty six year old sightseeing tour operator. Living Hayward California registered business operating in the bay area through this business he has arranged tours for Chinese tourists and students through a company called US tour and trout an attorney journey from Mr Penny didn't immediately respond to requests for comment we report the case underscores the US's increasing willingness to confront China's spy agency the head on finally some heartwarming news to end the morning. Many of us can't fathom donating even one Oregon but we've got a profile out today of the rare good Samaritans who've donated to over the past twenty five years only forty seven people in the US have donated more than one organ forty three out of those forty forty seven donated a kidney and part of their liver one of them a rabbi living in New Jersey told us that even though it took him three or four months to fully recover after the the donation if he could do it again he would do it tomorrow morning. That's what's news from the Wall Street Journal. Thanks for listening.
Saturday, February 8, 2020
"President trump unleashed ten. Colonel Alexander. Vines job at the White House is over just two days after impeachment ended and now Gordon Sean Wednesdays Ambassador to the EU done to. I'm Scott Simon Lulu Garcia Navarro. And this is a first from. NPR news during a debate in New Hampshire fresh off a strong showing in Iowa. Pete Buddha judge on the offensive. If you don't go all the way to the edge it doesn't count politics. That says it's my way or the highway. Are you talking about Senator Sand. Just an outcry within China after a Wuhan Doctor Dies from the Corona. The virus said you social media to warn about the disease and then authorities reprimanded now angry citizens or online and the Chinese government is responding. Stay with us. We'll give give you the news. You need to start your day support for this podcast and the following message come from salesforce. A customer relationship relationship management solution committed to helping you deliver the personalized experiences that customers want salesforce bringing companies and customers together visit salesforce dot com slash. Learn more happy with you to be happy with it. I'm not and and within hours of those comments by President Trump on the south lawn yesterday security officers escorted. Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Van Madonna the White House. His twin brother also also on the national security staff was escorted out at the same time. Then it was Gordon sidelines. Turn to escort for him though. Sunland did issue a statement thanking King the president for the opportunity to serve as ambassador to the European Union Bozeman Sunlen provided damaging testimony about the president's pressure campaign on Ukraine. ooh Crane last fall during the impeachment. Inquiry we're joined now by. NPR White House correspondent Franco or donets. Franko thanks for being with us. Thank you reminders please. How damaging was a lieutenant colonel testimony before the House Intelligence Committee? Well Vince oversaw American policy toward Ukraine on the National Security Council. He listened in on President. TRUMP's July twenty fifth call with Ukraine President Vladimir Zilenski. He said he had no doubt that. Trump was demanding that Ukraine investigate former vice ice president Joe Biden in return for an Oval Office visit and being there testifying in his dress uniform. He struck quite a figure on television and ambassador. Senator someone well. Someone was one of the quote. Three Amigos who worked with Rudy Giuliani. The president's lawyer on Ukraine policy outside the normal foreign policy channels I was there a quid pro quo as I testified previously with regard to the requested White House call and the White House meeting. The answer is yes yes he famously said everyone was in the loop but his comments were also used by Republicans to defend trump. Sunlen said at one point that trump told him him that he wanted nothing from Ukraine. No quid pro quo. Franco is this retaliation. I mean the president of the United States made personnel changes. Yeah Yeah I mean. We saw President Trump's celebrating his acquittal. This week he was clearly angry and even spoke about vitamin and his brother with disdain. I asked John Gans hands about this. He wrote a book on the NFC called White House warriors. He said it's clear. Trump new people were watching but now feels as you noted earlier unleashed by the acquittal and wanted these three people gone. They all serve. Because you're the president so that is something that they all knew going into these jobs but it is still shocking to see you sort of personal animus personal retribution playing out As appears to be with these three public servants. It's not a surprise that Democratic leaders like House Speaker. Nancy Pelosi and Senator Chuck Schumer outrage. They're calling this shameful and trump week and what about the other career civil servants who testified in the inquiry. Do they still have jobs. Well there have been a flood of people who already laugh they include US ambassadors. Who worked in Ukraine? Such Marie Ivanovich and William Taylor but there are still still seven career officials who are still in their jobs. My colleagues and I reached out to their attorneys last night and as of now no changes to report just yet. NPR's here's white. House correspondent Franko or donuts Branko. Thanks so much. Thank you And to Manchester New Hampshire were Democrats met on stage last night to debate. Seven candidates Bernie Sanders Pete Buddha Judge Joe Biden Elizabeth. Warren Amy mclovin Jar Tom Steyer and Andrew. But the focus was on Bernie Buddha judge and Biden the three BS sanders and Buddha judge. The two top finishers in Iowa and and behind the National Front runner who's Iowa Caucus showing was fourth. NPR's Scott detro- is in New Hampshire and joins us now good morning. Good morning all right former vice president Joe Biden Fourth NYLA. He was probably feeling. I imagine some pressure coming onto this debate He had a lot to prove. What did you see on stage last night? Then he definitely feels that pressure his goal for for every debate up until now was to stand there and not make any news and he had a way different approach last night right off the bat very first answer. He criticized both Bernie Sanders and impede. Buddha judge the two candidates who essentially tied in Iowa starting with fact that Bernie Sanders labels himself a democratic socialist. I think that's the label that the president's GonNa lay on everyone running with Bernie if he's the nominee and Buddha judge is a great guy and a real patriot is he's a mayor of a small city who has done some good things but has not demonstrated he has the ability to and we'll soon find out to get a broad scope of support across the spectrum including African Americans. The TINO's Biden mixed it up all night. It's clear that his above the fray approach suddenly does not work when he's finishing in fourth place but he also said something very notable in that. First Answer Sir that he may do poorly New Hampshire as well and that is just a remarkable thing to say. When you're the candidate basing so much of your pitch around the fact that you're the most most electable? Well let's talk about former South Bend Mayor Pete. Buddha judge who did well in Iowa to the surprise of many. How much more scrutiny did he get last night? Pretty decent the amount. He got the front runner treatment questions from moderators and other candidates about his experience about his track record and despite the fact that the current president has a reality. TV background the fact that it's extraordinary that this mayor of a city of about one hundred thousand is among the front runners for the presidential nomination questions on the fact of does he have enough experience. Buddha Ludi judge was criticized by Elizabeth Warren and others for how South Men's police force treated African Americans. There was a disproportionate arrested on drug charges for African Americans compared pair to white people he was also questioned about foreign policy. That's an area where Buddha judge seemed very comfortable repeatedly drawing his time serving in Afghanistan one moment stood out to me when moderator David Muir repeatedly pressed Buddha judge on whether or not he would have ordered strike on Iranian General Qasem Sulamani like president trump. Did I'm asking if your your national security team came to you and presented you with the opportunity. Would you take strike. It depends on the circumstances it depends if there was an alternative and it depends what the different effects would be. That's my point. This is not an episode of twenty. Four this is a situation that requires that you actually evaluate the entire intelligence picture. All right. Let's know the other top performance Iowa Bernie Sanders was also criticized for voting against gun control measures in the nineteen nineties. He said he was representing a rural state and has has changed his mind and has always supported an assault weapons ban Scott with three days. Left to campaign in New Hampshire. What are you looking for because I would start with New Hampshire's ability to count votes on Tuesday night? Compared to start their dozen other candidate force himself or herself into the conversation. Or does the result in New Hampshire amplify Iowa and make this continue to be focused on people digestion Bernie Sanders does Joe Biden rebound. If he does have another poor finish as he seems to be suggesting he might what happens next. Does he start to fade before he gets to South Carolina where he thinks he's the strongest also turn out Iowa's caucus turnout. It was about flat from two thousand sixteen. Repeating 2016 is not any Democrats plan to win this presidential election. No and we do know over the course of a long primary season these in turn out numbers. Do Give us a pretty good sense of how energized or not energized parties basis. That's NPR's Scott detro- in New Hampshire. Thank you so much sure thing and for from on the campaign be sure to check out the NPR. Politics podcast The death of a Chinese doctor. This week has Chen China into morning. Dr Lee Win Liang tried to warn other medical staff about the corona virus last December. He was reprimanded by police for spreading rumors. And then he contracted the disease himself a few weeks ago now. Tens of millions of people in China are posting online tributes to him many using the song. Do you hear the poor saying seeing some off. Bang Raymond it. Is The music people who will not be slave again. It's called arms from the musical music about a Parisian uprising against a corrupt monarchy joined by by. NPR's emily thing in Beijing. Thanks so much for being with us. Emily thinks that song does never subtle message. Why Dr Lee's death Resonating with so many people people in so fiercely people need a hero imagine. Hundreds of millions of people have been isolated in their homes for the last two weeks. They're terrified that this invisible virus is going going to kill them or their loved ones and the reading news every day. That people are dying for want of care. Also my reporting reporting from many others has shown that leaders in Wuhan which is is the city where the disease began new from scientists at the virus is highly contagious resembled SARS and then they didn't do much until about three weeks later so for a lot of people in China Dr Really Represents this tragic every man figure who was suppressed by Chinese leaders. He also seemed like a really nice guy. Here's an interview with Chinese. Online outlet did with Lee's his mother the day he died the treasury by a woman a la. She saying Lee's father and I had pneumonia but we just recovered recovered tragically. Our son didn't make it. He was only thirty four. It's such potential and talent. He could never tell a lie. The circumstances of these deaths have also really angered people. People initially state media reported that her had given out and then the grief started pouring out online state media then deleted their own articles. Said actually no no no way. We've resuscitated heeded him. He's on life support that they had to issue the reports when he actually died when it was clear he wasn't going to make it and leaves behind a five year old son his wife is expecting. Can you give birth to their second child in June emily. Any response from the leaders of China. No apology they have not officially apologized. There are these. He's state media obituaries. lionize Dr Lee. As an upstanding and this is key loyal citizen authorities did say there are going to send the national supervisory sized re commission which is this infamous anti-corruption watchdog to one to investigate. Why the doctor was reprimanded in the first place but this outcry is a huge questioning of the city of China's ruling Communist Party? It's one of the biggest challenges that they're facing in the last year and they've actually had a really rough year. What would the protests in Hong Kong going on on this trade war with the US and so the Communist Party here is responding with a very familiar tool and that is massive censorship? When Dr died the Ra- millions of posts going up demanding freedom of speech demanding answers those were taken down within hours and I've spoken to several people on the record who social media accounts were suddenly sealed off off this week because they had posted or shared articles critical of how the outbreak was being handled there among tens of thousands that have been suddenly cut off a mentally? What's the latest Reported for Mohannad on any sign. The outbreak might soon be contained. No the number of cases is going up though the rate is slowing down. There are a lot of concerns though that this is because is there is such limited capacity to treat people and there are questions as to how many healthcare workers like Dr Lee were infected appears in Beijing. Thanks so much. Thank thank Scott. 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