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Fresh update on "virginia" discussed on Transition Virginia
"A at a case file. I think that this is probably the most surprising thing listeners and people that might not be aware of the details of how this work that even enclosed cases. They still won't give you the documents now. And that is destructive to the public. Because i get roads trust in our institutions especially one that is so important as law enforcement to investigate crimes that happened to us as citizens but also remember that. It's not just about helping the president. And i think that's a secondary tertiary thing that you can even look at. This is about really making sure that out when these case files are completed. We're not even talking pending here. Because that's another huge is in weighty thing to try and tackle that as an investigation is still pending ability to you have to gather that information which you described in florida right. Go into the stack. Those are all those are pending incident. Reports you're getting and they still gave him to you in florida. And that's not. What's going to change in virginia what it would be for would be completed cases and that's so critically important because we have cases in virginia where folks have really been harmed in negatively a because of bad behavior in police investigations. A look at the norfolk four where you had four men who were wrongfully convicted of a nine hundred ninety seven rape and murder and we found out that a detective coerce the man into admitting the crime and now there is a real plea out there to figure out what what other cases was he involved in that he also might have coerced individuals into confessing. And we we need access to those files in order to do work for stuff like that being able to look at what officers really wrote in their incident reports as they are describing what happened in an officer involved shooting because if what they say in that incident report isn't matched up by body camera footage or witness testimony. That's really really important stuff to now as these cases are completed so there's tons of things that we need to look at what these closed investigative files and yet and still i don't think is going to be able to fully. Shed light on all of the things that i think the public would love to have further understanding. I think this time in our society where we are. we support law enforcement. We really want them to be great partners with us in our community. We want to give them the resources and the tools in the support that they need in order to do that but the public. I think right now would really love to have some more understanding in some in some more investigation into why these terrible things keep happening and i think this legislation is part of that overall criminal justice reform package that we have tried to thoughtfully and methodically pass in the general assembly. To make sure that we can improve relationships not erode them to improve relationships because again the public has to give consent in order to be governed. And i think a lot of people right now when they say say my name. I can't breathe in that. I support black lives matter. They're saying that we didn't consent to this type of governing. And i think it's up to us as lawmakers to try and provide tools and an opportunity for us to have a greater understanding in trying change the dynamic delegate rome what would you say to someone from the law enforcement community that would say these documents the delegate hearst wants would jeopardize an investigation and even if it's a closed case the document and that close case might jeopardize investigation of a separate case. That's an open case so we need the secrecy to do our work. What would you say to that argument. So we have existing precedent for this and other states. Virginia doesn't have to be the most hardest state in the nation for everything. Sometimes we can actually have a little bit of transparency in our government and we can actually use foia to get information and to give people their documents instead of looking at it from the angle of. Okay what loophole can we use to get around having to do it. And doug hearses asking for here on what the law is now is not going to impede in existing criminal investigation. Nor is it gonna hurt your ability to go back into a file here. What we're doing here is we're trying to bring light to real problems that have come up and the sort of requests that are gonna come up for. This are not going to be frequent but when they do come up. They're going to matter a lot. That's a nice place to leave if you have comics. Questions disagreements serious objections to what you just heard or maybe you only wanna tell us what you think about the show right an email. 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CDC Holds Emergency Meeting on Johnson & Johnson Vaccine
"The CDC is holding an emergency meeting to review the safety of Johnson and Johnson's Covad 19 vaccine. NPR's being long reports they're looking to a rare blood clotting disorder. The government has asked for a pause and giving out the Johnson and Johnson Cove in 19 vaccine, so the CDC and act taken dig more deeply into the causes of the blood clots. Which have been seen and six women. One woman in Virginia, died in mid March. Dr. Anthony Fauci, the government's top medical advisor, says the paws on the vaccine makes sense. I think this is an unusual occurrence. Of a serious adverse event that you want to make sure before you go forward, you investigated thoroughly and that's exactly what they're doing. They're pausing so that they could look at it more carefully. Fauci stressed that the blood clot disorder was very rare found in fewer than one in a million people who got the shot. Being hung NPR
Fresh update on "virginia" discussed on Transition Virginia
"A police chief from alexandria so this is a neighboring jurisdiction. Police chief gets arrested for dui in arlington and so the police agency there said. Oh you want the booking photo of for david baker where we're going to charge you twenty four dollars for the booking photo and actually charged four different news organizations for a total of ninety six dollars that they took in by just giving that booking photo out to four different news agencies arlington also like all police agencies will talk about police agencies in the next segment but they refuse to hand over all kinds of documents like incident reports and investigations that are available in most other states so i was trying to get an incident report from an incident when the police killed a teenager and they refuse to give me the document but they would give me a six line summary of the document that they were going to keep secret but oh by the way they were going to charge for the staff time so thirty one dollars for a six line summary of a document that they were going to keep secret and then there was also a time when i tried to get all the foia requests that were sent to the arlington police department. They went to charge me. Five hundred and seventy three dollars for just a copy of the foia requests not the actual responses just the requests so delegate rome. You have a bill on this. That is now being considered by the foia council. Right talk a little bit about this effort to crack down on governments like than that abused the foia process to keep public documents secret. Oh why should i look at arlington. When i can look at my home of prince william county you know. I think this is one of those issues where four i got sworn in so this is after the seventeen election but going into eighteen. My was on the phone with evening. Misbelief and i was planning to introduce the first version of my bill to ban foia fees particularly for the first two hours six complete a foia request and i told them that look we have seen exorbitant. Tens of thousands of dollars worth of fees being distributed in single foia cases and they actually conceded to me that foia fees are used as a deterrent. And that's the problem. Because if foia fees are even to exist in the first place and in some other states they don't then they should only and exclusively beings cover the actual associated cost of staff time that it takes to produce those documents in. That's it you can't use them as a deterrent. Because that is keeping away tax payer funded documents from the public from the tax payers who have funded them in the first place and that is completely wrong and keep the mind. Reporters are the public and delegate hurson. I definitely had the same training about whether or not. You're supposed to participate in the political process. When you're reporter. I came to a different conclusion. Which was that becoming a reporter. Did not mean that i lost. My constitutional rights retreated grievances with my government. And so most of that. I got to do by you just by covering the news but the other part was i do get say vote news. The price balanced the end of the day. But anyway going into the eighteen session They told me it was a deterrent. I was like okay. We need to do something about that. The republicans had a majority at the time in my prioritization. At the time was actually what i thought was a little bit. Easier of a left was to get a free information. Act ombudsman at the state level. Who could help mediate foia speeds. I thought if we had something like that that in and of itself would cut down on. Perhaps some the need for foyer fees in the first place. So i worked at foia ombudsman bill from first three years in office in it gradually crawl along but still never made to the house floor. And that's something that be bringing back next year. But in the meantime though is headed constituent earning stephanie miner whose daughter is autistic and was on a school bus from my former elementary school woman to mullen elementary so right here in the thirteenth district and she had been physically dragged on the bus on by adult because she was basically more or less having a panic attack in the mom says she wanted to see the video of what happened to her kid and she was being told it was an cost thousands and thousands of dollars to be able to get in fact. She had hundreds of dollars up front just to be able to put in the request in the first place and then for a redacted video they were to charter four figures for it in. I think it was like. Wjla had ended up like covering part of the cost and she got a shorter version of it. She wanted and it was absolutely ridiculous that this mother who wanted to see what happened to her child was having to make the equivalent of half a year's worth of paying the mortgage and i thought that is ridiculous so i knew i filed that build this session that the bill was inevitably going to go to the foyer. Advisory council i decided to do was from the get go. I said okay. Look at the amount on get. Vaco physician counties in virginia on virginia coalition for open government. I wanna get my constituent here. And i want to get some of the members of the house general laws committee. We're going to talk about how this bill should go about getting to the pfizer council. And what will happen once. It's there and the goal here is basically frost to get a recommendation from the foyer. Visory council that we can present as legislation next year. Just like delegate. Hurst did with his police records. Bill from the twenty twenty special session that he was able to get past this year. They'll get hearst play devil's advocate. I guess in this case it would be government advocate. Which is sometimes they're overwhelmed with foia requests and there is actual staff time. What would you say to local governments who were concerned about their staff. Time being used to respond to foia requests from not just journalists but the public as well. Yeah i don't have as big of an issue overall with pricing people out for fees even though it definitely does happen my experience those colored by the fact that i worked for a legacy station at channel seven and i remember we were trying to get information on school disciplinary actions bicycle school division from doe and they said it was going to cost three thousand thirty five hundred dollars in order to provide the documents with the staff time and with the cost. And all that. I remember going to Dave sidell who was our assignment manager. Who's now the news director at. W t f in radio. My boss currently by boss right us island. A room aroma. Dave and i was like. I think they're i think they're trying to denies this request by price in this out and his much isn't it said it's like three thousand dollars and he looks at manila's we can pay that and you know sometimes you want to call them on their bluff to. It is a game. I think a lot of these cases. And i'd love to take gamesmanship out of it but the whole reason why we have it in foia code to allow for reasonable charges is because it does take up a lot of time and with this foia bill for criminal investigative files. That's coming online on on july. One do. I think it's going to be this cascade of work that is going to besiege our law enforcement organizations those custodians of rockford now but it is still going to be something. They're going to have to physically do. And so i'm sensitive to.
No More White Actors in ‘Redface’ for Native American Roles in ‘Lost Colony’
"The longest running outdoor theatrical production will no longer feature white actors in makeup playing native americans. The virginia pilot reported the lost colony. Drama staged on roanoke island will now higher native americans to play indigenous people. The play dramatizes. The story of one hundred seventeen colonists sent by walter. Raleigh from england to roanoke island in fifteen eighty seven. The shift was spurred by a dot. Org petition started by a student at east carolina university calling for an end to the production. The roanoke island historical association which produces the drama recruited the chairman of the lombi indian tribe to its board and hired a choreographer who is navajo and clinked alum bi musician and linguist helped translate the songs into the tribes and native actors will now speak their lines and algonquin. The language used by tribes living in eastern north carolina in the fifteen hundreds
Fresh update on "virginia" discussed on Transition Virginia
"Last year was probably not. It didn't help my bill gates passed. Now's eloquent. I think when you're on tv and I initially pursued tv news. Because i wanted a job where i pretty much could just watch television all day and His when i was a kid. I was a juvenile delinquent going into summer school failing classes detention every day so and also choirboy when i was kid so i guess i just You know i do like to hear myself talk dislike. Most politicians don't I'm working on it in. I don't like to do extended questioning of people who come to testify on bills or delegates as they're presenting their bills or senators try and be respectful of people's time. And and and that. I really try and do my homework ahead of time and i really try hard not to make people look bad Unless they really are just trying to pull a fast one on us. I do think that we have a lot of questions. You know especially on the floor. I wish that people would say what they wanna say and speak to the bail instead of trying to other delegates until like lines of questioning. That are always not started in in good faith so as i have a lot of thoughts on kind of how we to the process of legislating. Because it's so much like a sport with a with a rule block an unwritten rules and etiquette That's a lot of the stuff that i try and pay attention to that. I think is really important that that i try and be a good colleague. Okay well we've got to take a quick break when we come back. We'll discuss how being a journalist can inform the issues and elected official. Can care about and so we'll discuss what some of those issues are when we return from the break. And i'll tell you what doesn't help is when we have reporters like michael pope from wwltv. Etf these were not rioters and looters. These were patriots. I never called the people who storm the capital patriots. These were not rioters and looters. These were patriots. I never called the people who storm the capital patriots. We have to hold our media accountable. You can help our podcast hold. People in power accountable head over to transitions virginia dot com and hit the button that says contribute on patriot for as little as three dollars a month. You can help us.
Matt Gaetz Reportedly Sent $900 to an Ally Now Accused of Sex Trafficking
"Matt gaetz florida congressman and fraternity brother. Who wants to show you something in his room under fire since news broke of him being under investigation over possible sex trafficking but like a karen in boston bodyworks. He refuses to back down tonight. Florida congressman matt gates defiant. I'm built for the battle. And i'm not going anywhere. The house ethics committee. Launching a new bipartisan investigation into gates examining allegations of sexual misconduct elicit drug. Use and accusations of the congressman may have shared inappropriate and explicit images on the house floor. The justice department investigating whether gates and his associate. Joel greenberg paid women who were allegedly recruited online for sex and travel according to the daily beast gates sent. Joel greenberg nine hundred dollars in too late night then. Mo transactions in two thousand eighteen greenberg use the same app to send three young women including one who had recently turned eighteen varying sums of money that amounted to nine hundred dollars. Greenberg made the payments to the three young women with the descriptions tuition school and school.
Fresh update on "virginia" discussed on Transition Virginia
"My career was progressing. The way that will always was going to even before you know I met alison. So i was like no i pretty much wanna make this a fundamental event in my life One that initially can be terribly depressing of that eventually could have some form of meaning and purpose and in the more i thought about that the more i thought that public service might actually be something that i wanted to do and then donald trump got elected in two thousand sixteen and i said well that jerk can get elected than anybody can get elected and i thought well why the hell not and and i reached out. I reached out to the to the party. i didn't know anybody in the democratic party. I didn't vote in a lot of local elections. Because that's kind of how. I was instructed at journalism school at emerson to try. And take out any opportunity for you to have subconscious bias by voting for somebody that you'd have to directly cover a lot. You know. I remember when my campaign did research on. They saw my irregular voting history and thought that it could be used against me. And i explained to him and they they thought that it made sense but i reached out to them and then eventually we put a hell of a campaign together and we were able to to flip a seat and then two years later we're able to take a majority and i i'm really sensitive to still wanted to be independent and not wanting to be seen as a political hack or just some part of a party machine but i. I think it's pretty incredible. What we've done in the last two years to help people in not necessarily to try to accomplish a particular. Party's agenda but we're really tangibly helping people in meaningful ways that has been delayed and delayed and delayed for years part of what. I campaigned on and twenty. Seventeen was i was getting really tired of covering the same crap all the time about our schools fallen down because they're underfunded about people not being paid a reasonable wage not being able to afford their bills but people who get trapped in the criminal justice system and can never get out. And we've taken a lot of meaningful action on that and so I really do think that was the right choice. It's great to have both of you in the general assembly. I think he has bring so much to the table and one of the things that you guys bring to the table. I've watched you in committee. And i've watched you on the floor. You're both great. And i think this comes from being journalists. You're both great at sniffing out when something somebody says doesn't quite sound right and you dig in and you ask the follow up questions and i've seen you trip up not not because you want trip them up but just because you want to again to the meat of issues. I've watched you both do that. And i think that definitely comes from having been a journalist. Why i remember. It happened few weeks ago when we had that bill abound vida right away and retrieving dogs and we were misled. Assembly on what. The intention in origin of the bill was and And so i needed to draw attention to the heck remember in. There are lots of us that have group tax everything in votes for saying that you know there's the investigative reporter you know a rare in his ugly head again though. Yeah i think for me i i. I don't know. I really wanna be a workhorse. Not a show horse and danika is exactly the same way. I think a lot of times. We can't get out of a spotlight even if sometimes were trying to maybe pass it to somebody else. But i think like danika also showed a tennessee like israel great reporters tenacity and i have. I have some fun stories to share of. When i did that sometimes too ill effect but you know when she was trying to get a notification for people who receive in public assistance for those folks to get additional notification on other benefits They may be entitled to. I mean she was running back and forth on the floor. Going passing the bill by temporarily working at out and then she she worked it out. And if there's one thing that virginia general assembly is that's totally different from dc. It's that if it's a bill with your name on it. You are the one who has to get that damn thing past because no one else is gonna do it for you and danika you know is just so tenacious and so fierce. What what was that bill. It was on had to do with the s s. One thank you doug at her so it's very kind of you in second on yet. That was the bill where been working with the department of taxation department social services it was basically designed to combat child welfare fraud which i think everyone else agree on and nothing came up on second reading like which is when you're supposed to debate. And so instead they tell me that the morning of third reading i was like no no keeping. My mother is from the bronx in the race in italian sicilian household away. You're not telling my bill now. So i had to take on delegate lee ware. Who's an absolute gentleman. By the way you know a negative thing about ways. He he really is a statesman. I telling telling me that he. He was not to induced about having to kill that bell on so stood on the house floor made mccain for. He withdrew his motion. Just senate back I made the best case. Could for the bill based on my word and my work ethic and yeah Actually ended up winning kind of a gag gift award out from the caucus afterwards for of the never say die award which is named after black sabbath Vita wanted stories. I was again tell. Last year i was in the house transportation subcommittee and One of the members from the other side who had like me been critical of the tolls on i sixty six was introducing a bill to add reverse toll to sixty six. Because for some reason this makes sense in the republican caucus that they're opposed to toll so they want to add more tolls in so. I told some the member sitting next to me. I was like let me handle this. One in is started asking question after question after question in got to a point of saying like so. I would ask the delegate here would she say to you're constituents ever go into dc during the evening or come home in the morning and he's like yes. Okay so you're saying that your constituents some of them will end up paying more tolls because of this bill. But you're against tolling right. And the only time i motioned to. Pb ability entire year because pb is like the harshest death. You can give a bell and typically we just gently lay a table but that one had to die violently for a reason and it was just like i wanted to make a case on this. Do not show up confirmed transportation committee telling us one thing publicly and then trying to act another way once you get here. That's just not how things are going to be an. Yes so i've also seen delegate hearst really really go into account and one of the things i really like with him as on the house floor. Very rarely. Dc our former news anchor ever stutter or triple. For his words he's eight. He always has since speeches while put together. Even if he's doing it on the fly he always had such a good argument for when he makes them but when the republicans try to gang up on him or try to surprise them she calls them on their crap every single time he so good on a speeding so good on the floor. It's just really something to watch. Won't i sometimes need to filter myself and have more that attitude. I had when i was on the tv station to make sure it in curse on air but no calling everybody jumps.
Army lieutenant sues police officers in Virginia for excessive force
"Sprayed him during a traffic stop back in December. Footage of the incident just came out. And immediately it drew widespread criticism from leaders and groups across the country. Karen is Oreo, who's black and Latino is heard saying, I'm honestly afraid to get out. In order to get out of his vehicle to which a police officer response yet you should be. Video from a body worn camera. An incident report by police officer Joe Gutierrez said Nazario did not comply to commands and police said in his area was driving a car with tinted windows. And no rear license plate. They said he had been alluding. Police is areas. Lawyer says the army officer was trying to stop it well lit area. He says his Fourth Amendment rights were violated and he's suing Gutierrez, an officer Daniel Crocker, for $1 million in damages. Lawsuit filed in U. S District Court for Eastern Virginia, Norfolk says the officers said they would file felony charges that would have impacted his areas Army career We learned today that one of the officers accused of
Fresh update on "virginia" discussed on Transition Virginia
"Welcome to transition. Virginia's the podcast that examines the ongoing transition of power in virginia. Michael pope and i'm thomas bellman a tale. The podcast journalists turned lawmakers. It's really rare for the fourth estate to run for public office and yet the general assembly has to really prominent journalists turned lawmakers. So what's it like to leave behind the daily deadlines for the campaign trail. And how is their time. As journalists inform their work in the general assembly will ask them. Joining us is a former anchor for wd. Jay who was at one time the youngest anchor in the country and two thousand seventeen. He decided to run for office and ousted in combat republican delegate. Joseph joost delegate chris purse thanks for joining us they michael. Hey thomas good to be with you guys. We're also joined by the former reporter for the gainesville times and prince william times in two thousand seventeen. She decided to run for office. And take on encumbent republican bob marshall. She joined us earlier this year for discussion of her bill outlawing. The panic defense at an extended discussion of metallic delegate danika rome. Thanks joining us again. Thank you so much for the invitation to be back. It's great to hear from you all again. So i didn't warn you. Were also going to rank all the black sabbath albums. So you going to do that. By the ozzy years the dio years or the say so let's talk about journalists becoming lawmakers now as we said at the top of the show. That's actually really rare. You almost never see it. There are a handful. Why open question to the panel here. Why do we think it's so rare that people leave the profession of journalism to be elected officials. So i think one of the things is that part of our training is to be neutral dispassionate third party observers as we are earning journals degrees as we're going through the field we inherently just take on not only just a you know a lack of bias in terms of political affiliation. But at the same time. One of the things that we do is that we are truth tellers. We work in the business of accountability. In our is to hold government officials accountable. And so when you make that transition from reporter to legislator you carry a lot of the same skill sets with you but at the same time you also have to shift your mentality so that you understand that you are now that person being held accountable and that the job that you do as legislator should be that that you think when you were reporter a legislator should have been in the first place which is open transparent steady stream of communication with the public and with their constituents so that basically there aren't really questions about who you are what you're doing as people already now while i think every reporter who's on the scene and interviews a politician at some point in their career looks at him and says we'll help. I think i could do. This idiot. does guilty guilty as charged. Yeah right so i think that it does overlap. A lot of different skill sets you are exposed to a lot of the same kinds of issues and are able to then have an informed opinion about them when you cross over into the political arena. But i really think that a lot of folks see the media and have a very low opinion of them. So i think for dan. Can i just wanted to get into a career field where we were more respected than the media so we could politics now. You mentioned earlier. The sort of knee jerk reaction to be neutral and dispassionate. Was it difficult for either of you or both of you to make that leap to suddenly not be neutral and not be dispassionate. It wasn't too terribly difficult for me. I think that you know it's not rocket science how to maintain neutrality and how to be an effective reporter anchor journalist. And do your job. But it doesn't mean that you still don't have opinions. I remember saying that. I had to make that pivot that i had to kind of go all in on this new approach if i wanted to be successful Which meant trying to run for elected office and trying to share a vision for what you believe. Your community should be in the future and that opinion. You know something that you would never solicit when you were journalism. Not that he didn't have them. But because you are professional Part of what professionals do. But i made that hard pivot and and didn't look back. So what i did was. I took one skills that i developed a print reporter which was op-eds and writing editorials for example which is up. Nice started doing quite a few years in newspaper career. I basically took that skill set. And i started writing long form opinion stuff that i would put up on my facebook page for example and who knows me knows my style of legislating is i never spared detail and that i will bury when facts any chance to get the opportunity to do so and so like i wrote my own platform. It was like two thousand. Four hundred birds summit length. That and what i did that was so different in my primary in twenty seventeen compared to a lot of other candidates is every day i would be commenting on the news or i would be commenting on my predecessors bills or what. He wasn't getting past what he was trying to prioritize. Whatever and i would have these long form explainers that i would do online. That were so researched. They were fact based in. I could show back to new people with graphics. Whatever and in that regard. I was able to do something that i was already good at which was long form news writing only basically with the idea of like. Here's what i would do differently. And one of the things have poutney's frightening. Is that when you're writing for a newspaper. You get the luxury of calling out. Bad things without necessarily having to identify acceptable alternative or at least not a lot of detail. Chicks alternative i decided to do was have a lot of except alterative and one the other good things that i had was might training at the hotline. My secret weapon in the campaign was that i spent three and a half years covering campaigns for federal state campaigns for the national journal's hotline and that taught me everything i could possibly know about a campaign without actually having been in one and so by the time i have my candidate campaign training program with the ultimate hugh victory institute in november sixteen. I was ready to go okay. So we've got to interesting stories here to talk about each of you leaving journalism and deciding to run for delegate and data you were just alluding to some of that which you expand on that decision and what you found once you left journalism. What made you decide to leave. Journalism and run for office and.
Virginia's Largest School System Makes Plans for the Future
"Teenagers become eligible for the vaccine. Younger Children are still waiting for a vaccine to be safely approved for them. But Virginia's largest school system is still making some plans for the future, and we are very excited about the vaccine development around opportunities to vaccinate Archer. Aldrin. Fairfax County Superintendent Scott Bray. Brand says the school system is already planning ways to get shots in the Children's arms with the Fairfax Health Department visor this month, has already asked for emergency approval for vaccine used for kids between 12 and 16. I think this will be one of the final game changers for our students and families to return and feel safe about returning for in person instruction effects counting plans to return to five days a week of in person instruction this fall River and also said they were looking at different covert. Testing methods for next school year. Look, look, er
Virginia Cop Who Pepper-Sprayed Black Army Lieutenant Is Fired
"Virginia police officers is now fired on the grounds he failed to properly follow department policy during a traffic stop last year. Police body camera video showed Officer Jorge Gutierrez pepper spraying army second, lieutenant Khurana Mazari, A Who's black and Latino footage from the scene shows the officers pointing guns and shouting orders at Mazar e A while the driver remain calm Bazaar is now suing the police and federal court.
Police Officer Fired After Threatening a Black Army Officer
"Virginia's been fired after body Cam video shows a black army lieutenant getting pepper spray during a traffic stop. ABC Stevenson Saami Traffic Stop was in December and in the police report, one of the officers wrote that the lieutenant was alluding police because he didn't stop right away and his lawsuit. The lieutenant says it was less than two minutes and that he wanted to pull over into this well lit area. He was released with no charges and is now suing the police and federal court. Dario says his constitutional rights were vying Elated protest
Virginia Police Officer Fired After Assaulting a U.S. Army Officer
"Town in Southeast Virginia says it's fired a police officer. He's one of two accused of pepper, spraying and knocking to the ground, the U. S army officer who was black and Latino during a traffic stop last December. NPR's Joel Rose says Virginia's governor is calling for an independent investigation into what happened to second Lieutenant Koran. Nazario video from Mazar e O cell phone shows. One of the officers squirting him in the face with pepper spray before pulling him out of the vehicle. The town of Windsor, Virginia, announced that the police officer has since been fired, and that state's governor is announced An independent investigation led by Virginia State
Virginia officer who pepper sprayed Army officer fired
"Has fired a police officer accused of pepper spraying and pointing a gun at a black and Latino army officer. It happened during a traffic stop back in December. Second Lieutenant Khurana Cesario has filed a lawsuit against to Windsor officers. An internal investigation found that police policy was not followed during that traffic stop.
Officer Who Handcuffed And Pepper-Sprayed Black Army Lieutenant Is Fired
"Block latino army. Lieutenant is suing to police officers in virginia and pointed guns at pepper sprayed and pushed him during a traffic stop. last december. lieutenant coronas area. Was i pulled over. Because officers thought he did not have a license plate though the suit claims. That temporary plates were clearly visible. Recently released body camera and cellphone footage shows the officers drawing their guns immediately after getting out of their cars and pepper spraying those are multiple times while he continued to keep his hands in the air. The lawsuit said that this event captured national trend of police officers acting dangerous racially biased ways under the assumption that they have complete impunity this. Reo is seeking a million dollars in compensation for what he says was a violation of his constitutional rights.
Virginia Officer Accused of Force in Stop of Black Army Officer Fired
"To the vet. I'm actively serving this country And this is how you get one of the police officers involved in this traffic stop in Windsor, Virginia, last December of a black U. S. Army lieutenant in his camouflage uniforms been fired and as requested by the town, the Virginia State Police have opened a criminal investigation. Cops were captured on video, pepper, spraying and pointing their guns at Lieutenant Karin Nazario grew up. Talk to me about what? You're sorry You're not Can you please talk to me about what's going on? Why am I being treated? Not want to get on the ground, the officer said in his arias SUV had tinted windows and no rear license plate. A temporary plate was reported inside the tinted rear window. Rosario's suing the officers for violating his constitutional rights over 100 top corporate chiefs who were gathered in an online
Virginia police threatened Army officer in traffic stop
"In Virginia, facing a lawsuit over accused civil rights violations and brutality. Black and Latino army officer Corona Cesario says two officers and Windsor, Virginia unnecessarily pointed their guns at him knocked him to the ground and pepper sprayed him following a traffic stop. CBS reporter Erin Miller has more was ultimately let go, but officers claim they conducted the traffic stop, in part because he didn't have a visible rear license plate. And didn't stop for police pulled over toe well, areas before and I've never looked out the window and so I've done some reason immediately. So, so the reason we did that because we followed you for a mile and a half, but like the salaries and you didn't pull over, according to the lawsuit, officers also threatened his R E O, with felony charges that could impact his military career. Rosario's attorney says he decided to drive to a lighted area for the traffic stop and was not trying to elude. Police lawsuit also says necesario had just purchased a new car and temporary paper license plate was taped to the back window, which the officers did not see
Lawsuit Claims Virginia Police Officers Threatened, Pepper-Sprayed Army Lieutenant
"Involving police and the army officer in southeastern Virginia is now getting attention. In that video from December two officers in Windsor, Virginia, pointed guns at second Lieutenant Koran Rosario, who is black and Latino. He was also pepper sprayed in an incident report by Officer Joe Gutierrez. He said Nazario refused to comply with multiple commands Nothing I didn't do anything. Whoa, hold what's his R E O is now coming forward. Filing a lawsuit against officers Joke Gutierrez and Daniel Crocker, saying his 1st and 4th amendment rights were violated. Why am I being treated with guns? Graham I got to do is listen. Rosario is now seeking $1 million in damages. That's W T. K R's Aaron Miller police, saying Rosario's SUV had tinted windows didn't have a visible rear license plate and had been eluding. Police. Rosario's lawyer says his client was trying to stop in a well lit area. It's 8
New Research Finds Daydreaming Is Good for Our Health
"Just published in the journal Emotions. Suggests that directed daydreaming can really be good for us as compared with the standard daydreaming, which usually has a lot of anxious or negative thoughts. The study was conducted by Aaron West Gate, a psychology professor at the University of Florida. Along with colleagues at Harvard and the University of Virginia. They want us to turn our idle moments to daydreaming about pleasant thoughts, which will boost our well being. What they mean by pleasant thoughts. They suggest things like happy Memories. Future accomplishments are maybe an event you're looking forward to. Participants in the study say they enjoyed directed daydreaming 50% more than when they simply thought about whatever came into their minds. The goal is to direct your daydreaming along a positive path, Tioga yourself a sense of relief and happiness. The result could be a longer life. That's a good result. One study found that over 30 years happy people had a 14% lower risk of dying early compared to unhappy people. That doesn't surprise me really. And in fact, researchers even have AH, happiness exercise to suggest Step One is making a list of five meaningful and pleasant things in your life. Step two is is sitting in a quiet spot and breathing slowly and letting your mind wander over those topics for maybe about five minutes, And the result, scientists say, is that you'll have more optimism and resilience in your day. Sounds like meditation like to me. And it's Dobson another way to get that done. And by the way, if you can do your daydreaming outside in nature, the benefits are even bigger. Remember that story we did a while ago on the so called nature pill. Researchers at the University of Michigan have determined that taking 20 minutes to stroll or sit in a place that makes you feel connected with nature can efficiently lower the stress hormone cortisol in your system. Researchers did the study to give healthcare practitioners evidence based guidelines on how to help their patients deal with the stress of urban life.
Police accused of threatening, pulling gun on Black Army lieutenant during Virginia traffic stop
"An Army officer who is black and Latino is suing Windsor, Virginia police after a traffic stop last December. 2nd Lieutenant Karen Rosario, still in his uniform, keeps his hands visible out the window of his new car. While to Windsor police officers, Guns drawn order him to get out. Was he afraid if he took his hands out of you, something really bad would happen. No harm. But was he built to do anything? Any misstep? He was afraid that they were going to kill it. CBS is Kristina Graffiti tells us in the video. You see him being pepper sprayed and knocked to the
Virginia police officers threaten and pepper spray black army lieutenant
"Are being sued by a military officer who is black and Latino. After a traffic stop last December, Army second Lieutenant Karin Rosario, still in his uniform, keeps his hands visible at the window of his new car while to Windsor police officers. Guns drawn order him to get out. Was he afraid if he took his hands out of you, something really bad would happen. Yes. So what was he built to do anything? Any misstep? He was afraid that they were going to kill it. Attorney Jonathan Arthur is representing Mazzariello in a lawsuit filed earlier this month against the two officers. The incident report says his aria was pulled over for not having tags displayed on his SUV. But the temporary dealer plate is visible in the officer's body Cam video is aria was released without charge. CBS is Kristina Rupini.
Police Pepper Sprayed Black Lieutenant at Gunpoint Over Traffic Stop
"Getting new video tonight from a disturbing traffic stop in virginia. It happened in december when police drew their guns and pepper spray to black army officer in uniform. He's filing a lawsuit claiming they violated his constitutional rights. Police say the man refused to follow orders and show his hands after being over.
Blake Bailey on Writing His Life of Philip Roth
"Blake bailey joins us now from virginia. His new biography is phillip. Roth blake thanks for being here. Thanks for having me all right. So there's a long story to how you became. philip. Roth spago for you. Were not his first choice but you were his ultimate choice. You just give us some background on that process. I was having breakfast back in two thousand twelve with the late jim alice. Who is the biographer of saul bellow. And at one point we were talking shop. And he said you know that. Ross miller is no longer returning philip. Ross phone calls. We in the biographer. Business knew that. Ross that we didn't particularly know who ross was. We knew that for a long time. He had been phillips biographer. I was between projects. I just finished my third biography about charles jackson. Who wrote the last weekend. And i had communicated with philip previously about my cheever biography because they were pleasant acquaintances. I read a letter. So i had. I had his address. So i wrote him a letter and he invited me to new york and said why. Don't we talk so we did. And what was that conversation like. Well we had two conversations. The first time i came he was very pleasant very conversational. A friend of his julia goal your former girlfriend stop by. She's a psychiatrist. And he has absolute faith in her character judgments so i think he invited her over to check me out and we never got around to talking about the prospect of writing his biography per se and toward the end. I said i gotta go. And he said well. Why don't you come back saturday. And when i came back saturday it was a different phillip roth. He was far more grim. He was in a lot of pain. He just had another major back surgery. And so i- solicitously asked about his back and he said you didn't come here to talk about my back and motion for me to sit down. And he the sheaf of questions to ask and the first question was. Why should a tile from oklahoma right the biography of philip. Roth and i said well. I'm not you know bisexual alcoholic with an ancient jarrett and lineage. But i wrote a biography of john. Cheever
"virginia" Discussed on Transition Virginia
"F. Welcome to transition virginia. The podcast that examines the ongoing transition of power in virginia. I'm michael pope. And i'm thomas bellman today on the podcast campaign. Finance reform. virginia has almost no guardrails when it comes to campaign finance as long as all the money is disclosed. But is that enough. Does virginia need more rules to guard against corruption. But this has been a topic of discussion for many years. Virginia and when democrats took control the general assembly last year lots of people hope they might take action but now the democrats have concluded their second session in power and headed into campaign season. They failed to enact any new rules. In the time. Tradition of virginia politics they did create a study committee so after the election. We'll have some recommendations for the next general assembly so we're going to get into what didn't happen this year and we're going to preview might end up in that study later. We've got a great panel to dig into this issue. Joining us is the president and ceo of the coalition for integrity schutte shop. Thanks for joining us to be here. Thank you for having me also. Joining us is a lone voice in the wilderness. Who's been calling for campaign finance reform for years. He's the chairman of the influential house privileges and elections committee and he's returning to transition virginia for a third time. Delegate marca simon. Thank you for joining us. Thank you thomas and michael for having me back I can only hope to be as entertaining as some of your repeat guests like sarah graham taylor and trevor sutherland. Two of my favorites. When i can. I am also a regular listener of the podcast so clearly clearly opening nearly as entertaining to my favorite. You know if we had trevor on today this would probably be a very different episode from what we're about to record undoubtedly so that'll be so so shrewdly. Shaw i want to start with you because you have your organization. The coalition for integrity. Does this thing called the swamp index which always rates virginia very poorly explain to us. What the swamp index is and. Why does virginia always rank so low. So you'd accidentally junior ranks very poorly and it is really unfortunate because i'm a junior resident and owner and i'm very disappointed with jim. Nez ranking custody so the swamp index is the states with anti corruption measures for public officials. And it's an index that ranks the states and dc on the laws and regulations on ethics and transparency issues in the executive legislative branch. It looks at things like whether the state has an independent agency whether the six agency as the To initiate and conduct investigations. Whether the party would public hearings in the subpoena they have any sanctioning on enforcement. Blog can accept anonymous of lanes and also on things like of which are related to transparency. And give truth conflicts of interest rates. Now junior ranks very poorly because wildwood were jinya has three ethics agencies one for the executive branch in you know one for the house in the senate really are what the name suggests advise only they have really no enforcement parts in investigative or sanctioning for the amendment knock rejected Without cause i mean. That's the primary reason. Why login ranks so forty so before we get into marcus simon's bill here on outlawing the use of campaign contributions for personal expenses. I'm wondering when follow question on the swamp index. What state or states do well on the swamp index. Virginia's always on the on the losing end of that equation which states should virginia looked to as being model states There are states. Like washington rhode rhode island california of on these dates. Do significantly better. I mean there is no state that scores on eighty so keep that in mind And most states actually scored below sixty so that failing read However i mean there are states which you can look to into himself a dvd independence and the investigative in sanctioning product. Ah ethics agency. The concept of interest was far Legislators the end nvidia gift rule of for inspiration. And i would say washington california rhode island would be those states well. Let's talk about pizza. So when marcus. Simon introduced his bill to outlaw campaign funds for personal use. There was a of talk about pizza. It began when senator lionel sproule posed this hypothetical scenario. We do a lot on knocking on doors. Let's going to campaign time. And i have fifteen people do not doors and we said we're gonna break at two o'clock and i stopped by pizza hut and good twelve police and get it to give to them. If i either slice among trouble so cinder ryan mcdougall applied the irrespective test to that. Scenario people have to eat irrespective of them seeking office so finished rule had a piece of pizza from pizza party under this language. It says in whole or in part and so whether he had one piece of that pizza or the whole pizza i think he would be in violation of the language as it is written delegate. Simon is this a pizza with an extra topping of corruption. So this happens every time. This bill comes out people. Look for the to try and find absurd items. They're trying to pick apart the the bill and of course everybody's supports the idea. I don't think we should be doing this. But they look for some sort of absurd example to talk about as an unintended consequence. And so it's not that we don't want to stop your bills you have. The wrong idea is just that worrying about unintended consequences. And so yeah. I wish i thought of this response at the time. I mean you certainly want easy way around that. I'm looking right now at pizza hut in chesapeake virginia. And they've got a a ten dollar tastes maker pizza so i mean one easy solution would have been of course going to put a dollar fifty in to the pot. Just let the dollar fifty. Then you're gonna pay for a slice of pizza. I know that a lot of get a resistance to that. But that was sort of entered center mcdougal's question but but i think the i think generally google frankly misapply irrespective test He would not have been ordering pizza and having a pizza party irrespective of whether he was running for office or not. So yeah i. I think it's arguable. I think worst case scenario there is you know you you you put in a dollar fifty of your own money. And we're gonna case like an example years ago. When i introduced this bill in the house which i think goes a little bit of the disconnect between some of the candidates thing i think what's on our constituents think we ought to be doing but former delegate. John abandoned said well. What if. i'm out knocking on doors. And i still coffee on my shirt. Why can't take campaign go out and buy me a new shirt and my answer is why should they can't buy you a new shirt right. I mean that kind of thing happens when we're at work. If i still kaku my shirt my office. My employer doesn't reimburse me and buy me a new shirt right so i think frankly. Some of these are disingenuous arguments. I think people are looking to pick apart the bill itself. But i also think that the needs to be a little bit of a mindset. There's.
"virginia" Discussed on Transition Virginia
"Did it end. Jeff shapiro author that to you Lee carter a self identified Democratic socialist tried to Tack legislation Repealing right to work bill on the that was on the floor of the house I guess he found out he just doesn't have that many friends in in his own his own caucus. This is a a hyper sensitive issue. among democrats of course right to work. Why it's say it prohibits union membership as a condition for a job It is It has long been an article of faith. among politicians democratic and republican governor ralph northern made very clear in a personal meeting with the ah the head of the f. l. cio the labor federation in in here in virginia that he would veto any legislation that does away with this this ban on compulsory union membership and It is To some degree one of the issues with which democrats somehow enhanced their they're more moderate images And so i think what you saw an ad that vote to to stop this on. The house floor was a very very deliberate effort by democrats to preserve that That modern image That's not an interest of Lee carter again as the as an avowed democratic socialists and An occasional lift driver He's got a lot to say about working. Conditions How friendly virginia is to labor or or not and You know whether virginia Is supportive of things such as a More than livable wage. But but a substantial minimum wage. You know. I find interesting about that policy that mike allers the republican challenger to lee carter this year. Actually support repealing right to work. I find that notable about where the working class electorate is in manassa city. You know one thing that struck me about the debate on. This is the demo. I mean jeff shapiro was talking about the how sensitive is an it's actually that's a sensitivity. That cuts both ways. Because you get the sense from democrats they don't want to alienate their friends and labor and they don't wanna make their friends and labor mad and they certainly want the support of their friends and labor but they also don't want to make the business community mad and they want to continue to get the support from the business community so they are trying to sort of thread this needle in a way where they don't get anything accomplished because the governor would just be tow it anyway but they also aren't seen as opposing anything.
"virginia" Discussed on Transition Virginia
"What what needs to be reviewed and one and one would note that Just in terms of nuts and bolts of of campaigning. That institutionalizing many steps. That were taken to you. Know make for easier voting during the plague. This past fall mean that An important aspects of of of politics will actually start a lot sooner and probably cost candidates more money. And that's voter mobilization getting out your vote because we were all accustomed to voting in person boast of What we saw and heard from the campaigns where you know people showing up at our doors telephone calls leaflet drops In the final. Run up to in in-person balloting. Now that that's going to be going on for days and days and days It means that Candidates are going to have to spend dollars dollars and dollars a really pretty much from mid september foreword on On an expense that traditionally was made much later in the campaign. Okay real quick because we're running out of time for this segment. Let's talk about what. The legislature did finally to remedy some of the circumstances around covid after multiple attempts across multiple sessions. They finally extended some type of paid sick. Leave this time though to home. Healthcare workers and healthcare workers generally. Amy can you tell us what the general did around paid sick leave. Yeah this is something that Delegate elizabeth monarch who is running for lieutenant governor has been pushing for quite some time and she always had a a much broader bill covering a lot more workers across virginia and she had been gradually wittling Down mostly because she needed to pass the senate which is a lot more friendly a to to the business community than the house has been and so it looks like it's going to be certain home healthcare workers. What is it. You might have to help me here on. It's like the sort of narrowed this bill. In a way that it does not apply to the private sector so it only applies to home. Healthcare workers that money from the federal government so it basically says to the private sector. Hey we're not asking you to do this at any impact of that is also it it potentially has a is a big help for For home healthcare workers who are dealing with you know A lot of lower income clients as well. I think that. I think that will essentially be the limit of that. I think that's all the able to get through. I believe during the senate debate. Senator norman Maybe senator mccain had asked if what if what if governor northbound census back with amendments to.
"virginia" Discussed on Transition Virginia
"This is so much more fun when we're penny lane. There's beer flowing on this episode transition virginia. Yeah they're already backed the two thousand twenty one. General assembly session is a wrap. You can't eat which joke kill so what happened. And what didn't happen. Gesticulate wildly out them. Solomonic third way. The highs and lows of legislating and an era of zoo one of the stickier elements of all this forcing everybody to take a vote on something that they've sort of were avoiding. This is not a nonpartisan process. It's only a bipartisan process. On this episode of transition virginia. welcome to transition virginia. The podcast that documents the ongoing transition of power in virginia. I'm michael pope. Thomas bowman today on the podcast. The twenty two thousand one general assembly session around what happened but didn't happen. What's next we're going to break it all down for you. With an all star panel of journalists joining us is the legendary columnist for the richmond. times dispatch jeff shapiro. Thanks for joining us. Thanks for including the i am. I am not worthy at returning to the podcast. our friend. that's august politics and policy reporter for the roanoke times. Amy freedom burger king. Mix for returning to the podcast. Thanks for having me back on. I feel like it has been too long since i've participated podcast and hopefully we can do in person against yes. One hundred percent agreed while amy. I want to start with you because you were there. In the belly of the beast in the senate chamber i was. I have to admit super super jealous of you. Amy because every time the camera panned over to that part of the senate floor there. You are like the whole session or i was locked in my house in front of my computer screen. Give us a sense of what it was like to be in that sort of makeshift at hawk senate chamber. What was it like to be their day in day out and it was. It was kind of as time went on. I felt like it like this was the new normal for the senate You know we were set up. The house of delegates was meeting. Virtually and the senate was in person at the science museum and so the senators. We're all spread out at their tables in. The media was in a kind of a pendon area in so it's a little different You know it's a little harder to kind of get people to come over to you. Have to gesticulate wildly at them at to get their attention in so yeah it was great. I'm a big believer though of being there in person as much as possible Just so they know that the media is watching yes. One hundred percent agreed. Did the gesticulation work like if you waived your arms would come over and talk to you or how did that work. Well as laws always coming over on his own. You don't need to you. Don't need to talk to you the others. Yeah you just have to keep waving or text somebody to say hey get so and so's attention and wanna talk to them so yeah they would come over. I debated at one point getting assigned. But i didn't else madam clerk would like if i was holding a new props new props log am over here senator. So and so. Jeff let me ask the same question of you but in reverse. What was it like for you covering an entire session. Not being there. In person i am. I am wringing my hands wondering what I missed what we missed because We weren't there though about how to Amy for bravely soldiering on and michael. You and i have discussed this A lot of what we do as reporters What lobbyists do legislators do Is boils down to just sort of showing up There's a lot of serendipity in our respective lines of work and i'm afraid that With the virtual the emphasis on the virtual one thing that is. Not present is serendipity. Let's talk about some of the bills that got passed out of this general assembly session. What can virginians look forward to starting in july or whenever they become law. Goodness there is so much that the democrats accomplished their second year of having the majority in the legislature. And you know of course having control of the executive mansion as well In other going to abolish the death penalty which is a huge deal for southern states to do this marijuana legalization kind of you know you have to read through. If you don't wanna read through the really lengthy what how. Many pages is two hundred. Something pages You know there's there's a lot of details to basically They're not going to legalize marijuana until twenty four. There was a lot of pushback from a sound. Like criminal. Justice groups legalization advocates. Who felt like you know. That wasn't they didn't go far enough on it. Well you know this is Reefer light there were about a half dozen legislators who democratic legislators who oppose this Legislators of color one of their concerns is and i think. Perhaps the governor's going to address this in an amendment or two is that We not fully eagle until twenty twenty four. He's under the bill as as as past Know there's a whole swath of the populace that's up potentially vulnerable to continue prosecution and we've seen ample evidence that You know more people of color than white virginians are are busted for marijuana And so i think this is. This is one of the stickier elements of all this. I think largely overlooked essentially it flared a bit in the those final debates that this is not just virginia becoming the first southern state to Legalize marijuana we joining fifteen other. American states This is a step as new jersey to occur earl here last week. An acting a bill that will create a tax scheme that will generate a lot of money that is intended to go back into communities principally communities of color that have been adversely affected By the emphasis on prosecuting For smaller amounts of marijuana and those dollars would essentially support jump. Starting this whole new industry a weed a recreational weed industry that would have a presence in these neighborhoods and perhaps Enliven their economies somewhat. Gonna question about marijuana legalization. I never quite understood the logic of waiting for the legalisation part of it. I mean i totally understand waiting for the commercial sales. Because you've got to stand up the new agency and you've gotta create the regulations and that takes time and okay. I understand that why. Wait for twenty four. Why not do it this summer. Like what was the logic behind.
"virginia" Discussed on Transition Virginia
"If you want to benefit from pay to play now you can buy joining transition. Virginia's exclusive patriotic community chip in as little as three dollars to help us produce. This podcast sustaining members. Get their questions asked on the show. Which means you know the next guest before the episode comes up so if you want us to ask questions or even if you just want to support the show hop over to transition. Virginia dot com and click the orange button to become patron patron today. And we're back on transition virginia. It's question time. This is part of the podcast. When we take questions from you our listeners. You can send us an email. You can hit us up on twitter or facebook. You can become a patriotic and support the work that we do here on the podcast. Our first question comes from friend of the podcast. Alex van wants to know about charter schools. How do charter schools. And perhaps even private schools generally affect school segregation. I'll open that up to other of you. That want to answer. We have strong evidence A variety of states and just nationally that charter schools are linked to increase segregation in schools. And when you have a geographic area where multiple school choices proliferate segregation tends to be worse. That's because information and resources are not distributed equally across the population so families with more information in more resources including the ability to get their kids to and from school are more likely to exercise choice which increases stratification now in virginia. Our current state charter. Laws have guided against the rapid increase in charter schools. In that is a good thing. Both of these reports would likely show much deeper levels of segregation if we had more expensive use of charter schools across the state at the same time. We do have some charter schools and fair many states in a very different situation across the country and so i think that it's really important for existing charters rules to incorporate civil rights protections those include deep and extensive outreach re transportation for students and admissions policies that prioritize student interest in the school not the schools interest in the kid charter slows. Shoot get rid of in renell involvement requirements that they might have and examine other policies. That may set up barriers tax as a think charter. Schools sometimes come up in the conversation about how to address segregation charter. Schools have impacts in terms of improving. Student outcomes and can result in higher levels of socioeconomic racial segregation. So that is why. We did not consider that as a policy option to address segregation in terms of private schools. Again i think building a strong public school system is integral to the democratic access of education to students in the state and i would also say that private schools again also have a history that increased segregation in the past range. So during the time outs resistance private. Schools were created to draw white students into the schools. In order to circumvent integration rate the creation of private academies known as segregation academies tuition grants or vouchers were given to white students found themselves in integrated school. these are really ways to circumvent integration. So i don't think that there's necessarily something wrong with the existence of private schools but that the priority should always be to create a very well resourced diverse robust system of public education because that is a social good as one that we've attempted to guarantee to every student so our focus our resources. Our attention should really be on building a system of public education and virginia that works for all students another question. Friend of the pod. Rachel she says students of color are often disproportionately placed in separate special education classes in virginia. Twenty seventeen report from henrico county showed that black male students are significantly more likely to be placed in special education than white students meaning that segregation can still happen within on segregated schools. She asked how do you think that factors into your findings and what should be done to fix this problem genevieve. Let's start with. You is such an important.
"virginia" Discussed on Transition Virginia
"Ongoing yes. School accreditation systems take into account. Test scores in chronic optimism. To sort of measure the quality of the school virginia uses a mix of indicators and those can all be useful for understanding where all needs to grow end of crafting targeted interventions but schools and experience of students are more nuance than that. And i think a lot of those indicators sort of look at deficiencies rate so where a school is doing perhaps poorly or looking at dropout rates for example our intention including or proposing to include integration and diversity measures in the accreditation process is that it could incentivize localities to engage in policy making that would make schools more diapers so if it's a measure in getting schools accredited than perhaps they would take policies a little bit more seriously to make sure schools look diverse. I think accreditation is something that's brought up. In conversations a lot about the quality of schools generally and if a school is an accredited that is like a serious mark on them is the conversation. Sometimes if we include diversity as a measure in accreditation than perhaps you're saying sort of carrot and stick there would be to incentivize localities in the state to work towards making their schools more so let's dive into this a little more because i do political strategy and messaging for my day job. And i'm wondering is there a for well-meaning elected officials to reframe these discussions within their constituencies to improve outcomes and minimize blowback. The polls i think the coming of institute's report does a nice job of outlining some of the research on the benefits of diverse walls. A researcher calling for people to down deeper to the research may not radically reshape public opinion. But i do think. The rationale for school integration is backed by decades of inner disciplinary. Social science evidence. You know so. You have this area of benefits around intellectual stimulation of being in a diverse learning environment listening to different perspective. Understanding different lived experiences around on flights albums. We've got good research suggesting that that promotes critical thinking this kathy mentioned and that helps teams come up with better and more creative solutions to really difficult problems and i would argue. That students who are attending homogeneous classrooms in schools are not getting prepared for what we're can life will be when they graduate and then there's a round of benefits related to the social emotional learning that occurs when kids from different races of necessities socioeconomic. Classes come together close contact across lines of difference especially when it begins at a young age reduces prejudice if you really know somebody from group. That's different from yours. You are less likely to generalize in stereotype and really knowing somebody in being friends with somebody from a different group. Also extends here awareness your capacity to care to other groups. The last time would be Civic preparation of students become good citizens that really care about one another that know how to share ridicule resources. Back kind of learning happens best in favor schools. I think we've had a lesson recently. In in how critical preparation for democracy really is so. I think better communicating eating the multi. Prompt benefits of integration for all students is really creek policymakers and politicians all the issue of researchers asking people to look at the research the virginia commonwealth university report of what are the specific recommendations is a j. lark study now. Lawmakers are traditionally very picky about what they want to ask jailer to study because they don't have an unlimited number of reports they do every year So what would you say to lawmakers who were trying to figure out whether they wanted to do a jailer. Study on this issue versus some other issue in terms of how important this could be to study this issue and come up with recommendations for the general assembly. We've all recently been given the lesson. In how critical public schools are preparing our future generations and school segregation is at the heart of educational inequality. The longer we wait to provide a quality recent to are rising racial majority the more in jeopardy our economic democratic future visits. I would argue that. There are few issues more important in school said invasion for the commonwealth to take off on energy like studies one way of indicating that the seat is serious about. Yeah i definitely would echo exactly what genevieve just said in underscoring that it is not an issue that we need to be waiting on any longer and gun that segregation is not over. We're just in another chapter of segregation and the fight against the nation. As well and i would also say that there is some progress happening on the state level. So the governor's commission to examine racial inequity in virginia. Law is gonna pass on many of the record conditions that we've listed our to the governor and a general assembly for consideration in this upcoming legislative session. Which i think would bring us one step closer to meaningful change in education and so these issues will be getting a little bit more time in the public eye in the coming months and i think that is a really good opportunity. For policymakers to be taking those issues seriously understand that. There's a lot of well around passing these kinds of ause ray. Now so a jailer. Study would be instrumental in giving us not just more information and data on the issue but demonstrating how it is still something that people are thinking about really to counter that narrative that is an issue. That is just simply over. We're here with genevieve siegel hawley a professor. At virginia commonwealth university kathy mendez at the commonwealth institute for fiscal analysis talking about.
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"On transition. Virginia were talking about the lingering problem of racial segregation in virginia schools and are these to research organizations virginia commonwealth university and the commonwealth institute. That have both done some research on this and had some findings. Both of these reports also have some recommendations on how to fix the problem. Genevieve seagal hollywood to start with you and the virginia commonwealth university suggestion that the state establish a new office or department inside the department of education. One that could support voluntary integration reduce segregation collaborate housing policy explain how the sort of bureaucratic potential solution to this. Why create a new office. A new department. What what good would that actually accomplish. So the officer department video. He should happen in tandem with a number of our other recommendations but in essence you know if if the state doesn't define what school segregation as and then set up a system in perhaps the department the hold school divisions in regions accountable addressing school segregation. It's hard to imagine. Further work happening without those baseline measures in place need to define it need to evaluate it. And then you need to start holding school districts. Hannibal department could help that work and it could also offer technical assistance around whatever plan. School visions are school regions. Come up with to address school segregation given the current legal context. I think technical assistance would be important for school districts. They need support thinking through these issues. So that's why we propose creating a new small department within the existing bureaucracy. Kathy mendez your report here at the commonwealth institute. Points out that it's going to take a system of intentional actionable an anti-racist policies to make high quality education a reality for virginia students. So can you describe what are some of those policies. Virginia should be exploring. Yeah so we outline a few different areas of policy solutions ranging from local level policies. That would kind of adjust school boundaries to housing policies that could even address housing segregation ranked. 'cause there's a link there so in terms of local and regional integration policies that could take the form of regional magnet schools that could pull students across traditional boundary lines district rezoning which would have been on the local level of course with the individuals will certain manning that effort and then also managed choice systems should be equity focused choice system where it can kind of look like families. Submitting a set of school preferences and their students assigned school could be based on a variety of goals that could include proximity diversity among others and that is a system. That's houston several school districts. Nationwide like the louisville jefferson county kentucky school district. A second piece is including diversity on the school quality postcards in virginia so the virginia board of education could include levels of integration diversity on our school quality report cards. Those light now few different things about school divisions in virginia like chronic absenteeism climates teacher quality. That sort of thing. Dr include integration and diversity as well so you could really gonna change the narrative on what a quality school looks like and sort of build that more on strengths rather than deficiencies are third. Point is fair funding. So we gonna advocate for funding to make sure that students who have the greatest need for resources. Get the greatest amount. So policy makers should reform. Virginia's primary school funding formula to take into account student need and they should fully fund the newly prescribe standards quality for forward by the board of education. Which would bring crucial resources and staffing to schools like counselors and mental health professionals. Anyway take into account student socioeconomic status when allocating money to local divisions in the primary formula and lastly policies to address housing segregation so a more equitable approach to housing vouchers. inclusionary zoning laws home ownership in wealth building opportunities like down payment assistance or increased on human assistance and increase investments in the housing trust fund and fiction diversion programs cancer have begun to separate that link so one similarity in both of these reports is a sort of carrot and stick approach. But i think you take your two different reports. Take a slightly different approach. And i'd like to open this up to both of you The vcu report talks about certification requirements so new requirements for certification superintendents. School boards are teachers or principals the commonwealth institute report talks about the accreditations system. And i'd like to open this up to both of you. Is there sort of looking at certification requirements and accreditation requirements. Is that a good way to encourage behavior and sort of a carrot and stick model. Where you you're discouraging. Certain kinds of behaviors and encouraging other kinds of behaviors in terms of the certification or accreditation. The tenor of this entire conversation points to the need for certification requirements. That help people understand the history of racial discrimination in virginia's public education system and how that history as laid the groundwork were ongoing racial discrimination in the And so that was at the heart of recommendation around the certification china help but the the stakeholders who wield power over these contemporary policies. Trying to help them understand our history. And what would be needed. In order to address the.
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"If you want to benefit from pay to play now, you can buy joining transition Virginia's exclusive patriotic Community chip in as little as $3 to help us produce this podcast sustaining just get their questions asked on the show, which means you know, the next guest before the episode comes out. So if you want us to ask for questions, or even if you just want to support the show pop over to the church in Virginia. And click the orange button to become a patreon patron today. And we're back on transition, Virginia were talking about marijuana decriminalizing it legalizing it and it's question time where we take questions from you if you have any questions for transition, Virginia hit us up on Twitter. You can send us an email. You can join our patreon community where you can support the work we do here on the podcast. And in fact, our first question comes from one of our patreons Pete Gibson of Gibson printing Virginia's favorite Union printer. He asked this girl now open it up to the panel. What role is there for Virginia? Tobacco companies to play in legalization. And will there be incentives for former? Tobacco Farmers to grow Virginia college rules there toward tobacco. Look I don't think anyone is really jazzed about the idea of ultra dog. In cannabis and the Commonwealth even ultimately that may one day be a reality as long as it remains federally illegal. I think we're going to see legalization Virginia roll out or similar to the way it has in other states where it's not you know, Titans of Industry, you know, perhaps outside of those multi-state operators or even the canvas pack and and will there be a role for Virginia's? Tobacco Farmers for those books absolutely Equity can be looked at through a very large lens and and part of that conversation that Equity conversation here in Virginia and specifically within the Virginia marijuana legalization work group is about that brought that broader question of of equity in life. Not just about Equity licenses for those who may want to work in the Cannabis industry, but how can we wage? Provide opportunity and we're sort of justice to all of those who have been impacted by the failed policy. How can we incentivize opportunity for Virginia Norfolk, Virginia Farmer's or certainly part of that and to piggyback on that but also to take it away from Big tobacco and let's just go straight at the jugular a big Pharma will not let me just one cynic lease a as bought-and-paid-for both Democrats and Republicans on Capitol Hill. We're now starting to see even Purdue Pharma member that I've heard and I haven't done this story yet. But members of the Sackler family are investing in marijuana companies have tried to take the 10 or whatever billion dollars that they hid from the families who they killed with their opioids with their Oxycontin. They're now trying to get into the Cannabis market and so like there is fear within the industry wage. For lack of a better term that can go amateur ization of the industry, you know, the big takeovers people in Wall Street at the start of the recession and all these jobs in capital firms were literally thinking like who after a few months this is going to be the time to buy all these cannabis firms. Well what happened we've seen sales Spike wage cuz when people are sitting at home, I guess they like joints or bowl or an edible. So sales have been up. So all these firms avanta like rethink that just bought a rabbit capitalistic approach, which I'm fine with capitalism. I want people to make money but these pharmaceutical companies and big tobacco as well these companies that have killed hundreds of thousands of our fellow citizens now want to get in on this just to I don't know to feed their bottom line, but I'm nervous about that because I don't think these companies dog. Or even Industries have proven themselves to be good actors who actually care about Americans for many people in the marijuana industry. Actually do this is medicine for millions of Americans right now while I don't disagree with you Matt, I'll remind our listeners that we should all be so fortunate as to one day have the luxury of choosing between Marlboro greens at the corner store and crafts cannabis at the boutique dispensary pharmaceutical eyes cannabinoids at CVS a message. I just want this companies owned by the people currently in prison, and I know you agree with me on that. Okay, we could keep exploring the Garden of Eden forever. But go to our next question here from Sarah Ingram Taylor Sarah is the lobbyists for Alexandria City and she has a question that comes in through Twitter at Sarah Taylor. Okay, see she points out that Alexandria substance log. Use prevention commission brought something to her attention. She wants to know will the quote social host unquote liability law extend to marijuana. Okay, social host liability line just looked it up. Google Google is a wonderful thing. It states in part that anyone who furnishes or sells alcohol to a minor is guilty of a misdemeanor and if that's acquaint consumption of the alcoholic liquor by the minor is a direct and substantial cause of that person's death, then there's criminal penalties. So so what they're asking is, you know. To give weed to minors or they're going to go to jail some many decades ago normal adopted what are called the principles of responsible cannabis use and the first point that is adult-only cannabis consumption is for adults only it is irresponsible to provide cannabis to Children. Amen, and that's industry-wide like it's not even a dog. Call a red herring. This is something that opponents bring up. Nobody in the industry wants kids consuming this stuff. Just like we don't want kids consuming alcohol. All right, Sara, if you've been listening at sounds like Alexandria has Substance Abuse Prevention commission needs new members. Amen activate Virginia on Twitter activate. Virginia wants to know should legislators package is an advisory referendum this coming session that would put legalization and Taxation on the twenty one November ballot to demonstrate public support. No, I agree with you Jim Michelle why no pets lived in a stall tactic Virginians have been vocal in their support for legalizing responsible use of money to buy a dolt. So I don't see how a referendum does more than illustrate what poll after poll after poll has already demonstrated our, New Jersey. Question comes from Bill in Richmond. He wants to know how National policy from a President Biden might influence the legalization process in Virginia. Any thoughts on that page, Virginia legislature is not swayed by the policies of neighboring states or frankly, even the federal government Virginia, like the majority of United States and territories is in violation of federal law by legalizing medical cannabis and decriminalizing personal possessions. So federal policy doesn't seem to be impeding progress here progress has been slowed but not because.
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"Samples and if so, how long Max be served nasty curve legal. Just asking for a friend. Yeah. Yeah, Jen Michelle Panini explain what the workgroup did and what the meetings were really like so I think they'll made that joke just for me as part of the decriminalization legislation. We added an estimate language that ordered some number of secretaries to convene a legislative work group. That's what Senator was speaking to and I am a member of the workgroup and it has very similar objectives to what we outlined in the legislation initiated to jail or study and so it isn't a Shedd Virginia legalize marijuana, it is a how should Virginia go about it. And what are the major policy considerations that we would like to address off in such legislation and ultimately the work group ended up forming three subcommittees fiscal and structural subcommittee.
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"And we're back on transition, Virginia. We're talking about marijuana decriminalized marijuana, which Virginia has already done and potentially even legalizing marijuana. Which Virginia is on the verge of doing Jim Michelle Panini. There is a study that's going on right now that's going to be completed later this year in advance the upcoming General Assembly session that is about litigation and it's not about whether or not legalization should happen. It's about how legalization should happen right walk us inside of that study and what we can expect from it. Well, I think you said it right there. It is. In fact how Virginia might best go about legalizing adult use. It is not a whether the Commonwealth should or shouldn't smoke. Marijuana is good or bad. It's just really the best policy approach for the state of Virginia. For example, what's the best tax rate for cannabis in the Commonwealth? We don't log. Want it to be taxed so high that it's simply a tree incentivizes engaging with the illicit market then you also wanted to you know have a tax benefit to to the state. What might be the best number. Oh retail sites for the state of Virginia. What's the appropriate regulatory structure? We already have vertical licenses issued in the states where medical providers office not really an appetite to maintain this vertical requirement and and something that's very specific in this study is a call to look at what the state of Illinois did so every state should know presumably tries their best with legalization and and we seem to be getting better and better each iteration that we we see on the fold in the state that seems to have gotten back at least the most right up to this point is Illinois because they were very thoughtful and specific and including the restorative justice components to the their bill. So the study does off. For a specific look at Illinois and a look at how Virginia will include restorative justice from the get-go. So that like other states. We are having to go back and say oh we forgot about people with criminal records. We should probably expunged those. All right. So on that topic with criminal records, so what are we going to do with a sponge amounts of marijuana related felonies particularly in cases where someone plead to say felony possession is part of a deal not to be charged with something more violent should the expungement process be automatic or should we consider something more similar to McAuliffe's expedited restoration of Rights expungement is an issue that the general assembly attempted to tackle in the special session. And ultimately they weren't able to reach any sort of consensus the Virginia State Crime commission did a study on expungement and their policy recommendations were in support of an automated expungement process, Virginia is one of eight states that doesn't have true expungement off and what was important about the proposal that came out of Virginia State Crime commission is ultimately carried in legislation by leader hearing is that it also may contain the funding necessary to update the infrastructure and equipment in the state of Virginia so that we could even have a process like that in Palm. If you don't have a technical capability for that right now now the Senate put forth a different expungement proposal one that we've seen versions of four years that outline a very limited set off. Of infractions and required petition based expungements and in the house and the senate or able to agree on who had the better proposal and also Virginia and Scott hung out to dry essentially until another session can potentially look at this expungement. So when we do drop the adult use measure we're going to be very creative and how we look at addressing past records. What Solutions can we possibly provide when we're in a state that really lacks the ability to do any comprehension of eccentric, you know, that house-senate conflict is really interesting and it it's intractable because the house is really wanting this automatic expungement process. And what they are trying to avoid is any sort of petition process the Senate wants the opposite. They want a petition process. They don't want it to be automatic and charnell Herring has made the point where wage If you create this petition process, you're also going to create a market of lawyers who specialize in the petition process and then once you've created that market of lawyers, you will never be able to get rid of the petition process because they will be a powerful lobbying Force. So we've seen this intractable debate here between the house which is totally pushing and standing by this automatic expungement process versus the Senate which is for the most part rejecting the idea of automatic expungement that last low. I'm sure other states are also trying to figure out the best way of forward with expungement of old marijuana convictions. What's the field look like here in terms of can Virginia look to other states that maybe they figured this thing out well on that real quick. I was just going to say sounds like this is just a win win win for the economy. The lawyers are going to make money the legislators going to be in longer. So that's going to keep people down there and Richmond were dead. Or and then obviously the dispensary workers and Growers. So I see all positives a little tongue-in-cheek. But yeah, when it comes to expungements take a state like Florida where the people literally the will of the people they came out in 2018 and they said we want non-violent.
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"And this is part of our conversation. So what you're doing is setting people up for failure, you're creating a larger market and then punishing the people that Supply Thursday. I mean either the better route would be either legalization or what we're doing. Now. Do you support legalization? I haven't come to that conclusion yet. I am obviously still studying that issue has not had a committee that I've been in front of but I would rather legalize than do what we're doing now, Jen Michelle Panini, what do you make of this kind of argument? We heard from Republicans that legalization would be better because Decriminalizing without legalizing is creating this gray area, but they also are not really sure if they want to support legalization or not. What do you think of that? I've heard this time and time again. And listen, I totally agree with delegate Rush decriminalization is not a public policy solution to Prohibition. What is is legalizing and regulating responsible adult use and undoing arms that the failed policy has Afflicted on Virginians. Now while he you know voiced his perhaps unintentional preference for that policy issue, the majority of his colleagues didn't support that in the 2020 session and the administration was favorable to decriminalization. So that's the policy that we were able to advance but we did not take some you know, what most would consider extraordinary steps forward towards advancing the policy of legalization in the next session. I would point out to delegate Rush dead. This is not new information back when Kirk Cox was the speaker. He he appointed by former boss Paul krawczyk to a committee studying marijuana policy and they found in the Republican gears that legalization is far easier and far less complex with far fewer disparities than decrim which still have to have some kind of code for criminal threshold over an ounce to your point earlier Jen Michelle about they're still being a disparity. These are all impacts that the legislature knew would happen. Yeah. They absolutely are because as you mentioned in 2017, the Virginia State Crime commission did conduct a study on decriminalization and came to the same policy conclusions that this is a minor set and it's a step that will reduce criminalization, but it won't address the systemic application of these laws. systemically in just application of marijuana laws but Jimmie show. Is there a Bill in Congress in the United States capitol building right now? That's an actual legalization bill or on all of them kind of technically decriminalization bills off. And what's that difference? Yeah, click when we talk about State policy and federal policy. We may now be using inadvertently similar terms. But Federal League organization is really the same as Federal decriminalization for all intents and purposes. The only way the United States can legalize marijuana as it were at the federal level is off to decriminalize marijuana at the federal level. And that means to remove marijuana from the federal Controlled Substances Act and allow states to set their own policies free from federal interference off, you know, one of the members of the Virginia delegation who has been was in favor of this in the past was former Congressman Tom Garrett who was dead. Ticket for removing marijuana from the Controlled Substances schedule when he was in Congress, of course, he's not in Congress anymore. I spoke to him about this when he was in Congress. And this is what he told me the reality of a schedule 1 controlled substance definition is no redeeming medical use that's detached from science and reality. We know that there are areas whether it's suggestive intolerance and dealing with chemo therapy chronic pain management intractable epilepsy glaucoma that marijuana and marijuana's derivatives can help Matt. Laslo Dimas Congressman garratt I do and I'm thinking of the Amoco when he told me, you know, he had some struggles with substance abuse, but he did tell me he would not come over to my place and smoke marijuana with me, but he told me as a good fiscal conservative if.
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"Couldn't vote. Let's go and take a break. We are talking with Dr Paul Levin Good. The former president of the Virginia Historical Society and current president of the George C Marshall Foundation, and also our friend delegates. Schuyler van Valkenburgh from Henrico. And we're back on Transition Virginia Brunell going to talk about the fall of the readjustment. So this is a group that we talked about earlier had a meteoric rise to power eighteen, seventy nine. The party is founded in the early part of the year. By the election in November, they were able to gain a majority in both house of delegates and the Senate. They had fifty six out of the one hundred seats mouse twenty, four out of the forty seats and the Senate and the next election cycle and eighty one they kept the general assembly and elected their own Governor Governor Cameron, and then the. Next year and the congressional election they had six out of the ten house seats meanwhile, the General Assembly of course, at this time is picking the US senators. So they pick Mahone who went to the Senate and ran the political machine from his US Senate office and they also picked the other US senator. So they had both seeds of the US Senate. They had six out of ten house of representative seats. They had the house ability. They had the state Senate, they had the governor's office when that's all within three years and then it all falls apart doctor Levin. Good. What happens to the readjustments? It's a really.
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"I mean, just UN's face the coalition itself was Biracial, but it's worth pointing out for the modern listener that they were not in favor of desegregating anything right so To, Doctor Levin good talk about this nuanced from our perspective. It's nuance racial element to this where they're a biracial coalition that actually was not for integration. I I. Don't. I. Don't know on the on the African American side, what the what the feeling was along these regards but only for white readjustments, this was you know black public schools in white public schools. blacking I mean Virginia. You mentioned Virginia State is founded. That's very deliberately at a normal school, a school to create black teachers who can teach in black school So this is not a moment of. You know coming together racially it's I. think it is more a recognition that there are shared interests of the poor and working classes of both races that need to be met that need to be satisfied, and now it was not an turning of that of that order of the races and remember you know this is not an enlightened period racially outside of Virginia I mean this is. Sometimes, it's easy easy to forget that the civil war. Did Not Create you know an instant sort of racial utopia anywhere in the United States it it settled the question of slavery, but it did not settle the question of equality even with the reconstruction acts clearly. So that's you know it it probably is not shouldn't surprise us that someone like William Mahone who was a slave owner before this war fight for the confederacy does not then become the figurehead of a party that is looking to overturn the racial order but is reflecting the reality that there is a block of black political power now and pent-up black desire for. Various services to be rendered by the government that needs to be acknowledged needs to be met, and it is a wing of this coalition who has the power in political clout to demand this of their white partners. and. Also one thing to add their to to kind of even nuances even more. If you look at Mahone himself, he campaigned against the only black Republican running for Congress in Virginia during this time period, and so there was kind of and we'll talk about this when we get to the downfall among the white readjusts tres, how far they were willing. To go it is very limited I think you even arguably at the time, but definitely by modern day comparisons and so I think that's important to note as well. Another aspect of this is that it is by many accounts the first political machine in Virginia which I know probably people have various perspectives on whether or not. It was machine Doctor Levin. Good. Mahone lead a political machine perhaps even you could say Virginia's first political machine. Well Certainly Mahone, recognized. the power of patronage and recognize that there's an awful lot of ground to be made as the leader of this party in the political patrons that he can go out of that leader. I mean I I guess I mean I mean. One, man's machine is another man's. System right I I. I don't know whether I would describe the readjustment machine. As the first machine in Virginia politics certainly, political patronage played a part in. Virginia politics going back to the colonial period. I it. It's doling out favours going out positions and sinecures has always gone on I think Mahone might have been a little more blatant about it. In some ways you know Mahone is in some ways he's a classic newsouth figure in that. If you if you study that period, you know he's a guy certainly on the come I mean he's all about. He's all about money. He's all about. Showing his own money and showing his power. He's not he's not doing it. Subtly you nothing there's nothing really subtle about him. So maybe in some ways, it's the first sort of evident machine or the first machine that doesn't try to in any way math what it's doing and as a precursor to the the Democratic Machine of of the twentieth century. So I guess in a way, it's the first machine, but I wouldn't. I wouldn't push that too far because it's kind of a the logical evolution I think of what of what had taken place but I would say that I don't I don't think it is because I think when you talk about political machines, people talk about entrenching their own power and while he did engage in behaviors that we would associate with a machine you know patronage in correspondence and all these other things did they're out of power so quickly, I actually think if you WanNa talk about the first machine, it's actually his railroad rival. John Barbara who who, kind of helps defeat the readjusting and creates the the kind of modern day. Well, the re constance, the Democratic Party and creates the machine that will lead to the bird machine. Barber campaign managers guy named Thomas Staples Martin who created the Martin machine that of course was by any standards. But you know just because they only held power for a brief period of time doesn't mean it wasn't a machine. It just wasn't a very successful machine at having longevity and part of that. Is something that starts leading toward their downfall, which is there central organizing principle? Was this thing about the debt where they're in disagreement with the other party because the party wants to pay off the debt at the expense of public education and so they campaign on readjusting the debt and not paying it off at the expense of public education? Well, guess what the other party says you don't let your right we shouldn't do that doctor. Levin. Good. The other side essentially folds says you're right right And and they do repudiate the debt by about a third. They reduced the interest rate by half. So they really do succeed in this and I think the Democrats. or their their opponents I think once this passes I think then the pretense of well, this is about honor and all this kind of stuff kind of can fade away and they recognize that this is actually freed whoever follows the readjusts free them up to. Do. A number of different things that they wouldn't have been able to do if they've been fully funding that debt, the way they had claimed they wanted to So yeah, I mean th they managed they managed to do it and I, think it's one of those things ca you know be careful what you what you wish for because I think they did create an environment for themselves where their reason for existing started to wane a little bit I mean when you're sort of almost a one issue for one primary issue party and that issue goes away to a degree then you know it is it is. Probably the best thing for your for your future success. If you can't redefine yourself, it's funny. The mention that because I'm thinking about the Brexit Party. So once brexit happens what uses the BREXIT party anymore. Yeah and one thing that's fascinating I did want to make sure that your listeners ended up realizing too is there's a little funny side piece of the debt, which is when all of this debt is incurred Virginia before the war included West Virginia the West Virginia breaks away during the course of the civil war and there's a long and contentious fight between Virginia and West Virginia as to what portion of that debt West Virginia should. Really. Be Responsible for because were railroads and canals West Virginia that were funded by this and so it actually I don't think it's till Nineteen fifteen or something that it's finally established what dollar amount West Virginia owes toward retiring this debt, which is just kind of a little side note that I thought. It just fascinated me at the time to think that you know they had to take it to the Supreme Court to finally figure this all out. So, delegate Van Valkenburgh, can you put all of these reforms in the context of what's happening nationally and the reason I asked that is because now just like then Virginia's politics often parallels national politics and a lot of ways. So what's going on during this time? Well I mean you're seeing the end of reconstruction you see the north, the northern population losing its will to. Its involvement in the south you see. An economic panic in the mid eighteen seventies that causes kind of a change in priorities. So you're seeing the Republican, party, that goes from the Party of Lincoln, kind of into the party of big business, and so the south is slowly getting its autonomy back in you're getting Kinda slow drip drip that will lead to Jim..
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"I, read this list at the top and it's Worth repeating because it's just sort of mind blowing. If you think about this is the eighteen eighties we're talking about the increased funding for public education they repealed the poll tax they increase taxes on corporations they increased funding for state asylums they increase money for higher education. They abolished the whipping post Doctor Levin Gun talk about the whipping post and the significance of abolishing the whipping post in the eighteen eighty S. Well if you think about public spectacle of criminal punishment, especially in times of slavery, the public whipping post is perhaps the most. Striking example of the the the levers of control that white elite bridge held over everyone else, and so you can imagine if you were living in a maybe a courthouse. Town, a county seat. Very. Often there was a public whipping post which could be used. By for crimes committed by slaves brought to the courthouse square and publicly flogged Mathur's who didn't want to do it. Themselves could actually pay local sheriff to do the same thing and it was public spectacle that was meant to reinforce the power structure very very clearly to everyone You know obviously whites could be flawed to, but it was mostly mostly punishment that was meant to keep an African American population in line. So I think for the African American. Ri. adjusters. Both symbolically, and in terms of you know modernizing the processes of criminal. Justice. Abolishing the whipping post was an incredibly powerful symbol and I'm and I think probably. You know they're they're the probably their influence in the party's platform. As. Much as anything else in that kind of a movement. I'm also kind of curious about the politics here of increasing taxes on corporation increasing taxes on railroads, and then spending that money on public education and higher. Delegate van Valkenburgh is this the beginning of? Liberals. No you know what I think this reflects as kind of thinking about this podcast in thinking about what they did I they would have explicitly said this, but it strikes me that This is an embodiment of a very cohesive kind of idea of what I would call the Frederick Douglass wing of the Republican Party at the time, which is the government being used in order to create kind of inequality of opportunity you. You can just see with the emphasis on education in. Wouldn't have called a K. twelve at the time. Right but K. twelve education a higher ran decrease in Virginia State University. It's all founded on a sense of equality is the first mental silence for African, Americans as well in you know once again, you go back to anti-american you look at the taxation in Virginia and one of the big complaints of folks in the western part of the state was that poor people were being taxed in slave owners weren't and I think what you're seeing is you're seeing a foundation of equality of opportunity of using the government to try to uplift all people and I'll go back to the kind of education speeches they gave If people I'm not GonNa read on. But if people go back and look at the eighteen, seventy, eight veto of governor holiday and then they go back and look at Forgetting the governor's name, the the readjusted Governor Han, Cameron Cameron. You go back and read his statement about the value of public education just in the space of like a year the difference in philosophy behind the to the two. Speeches I mean it's stunning and so I. I don't know the beginning of Texas than liberal but I do think it's the beginning of the idea that the government can be used as a force of good to create a kind of a quality of opportunity, which is, of course, a thread that you see in that certain segment of the Republican Party in the civil war and afterwards which you see in FDR, right which you see in Lyndon Johnson, the Great Society in which I think you could argue see in Virginia Democrats today. So you know I don't think it's a perfect comparison, but I do think you can see lineage. No let me I don't want to jump in with thin with a bit of cynicism here but let's also remember that someone like Mahone loses control of his railroad to outside interests I mean his railroad end up being held by receivership of people in Philadelphia and elsewhere, and so taxing outside companies making money in. Virginia. Is a real a popular thing to be able to propose. So you know you're you're. In some ways you're also That's the kind of something you see in modern politics as well. It's you know this this notion of well. Those who are getting those who are making money off of doing in Virginia or doing business wherever should also pay some price for the things we WanNa, do in Virginia. Info. Virginia's people. That's that's true and also note to that. If you actually look at their tax plan, taxes went down for the average Virginia taxpayer. So they decrease taxes on farmers, the decrease taxes on small businesses in increase taxes on the railroads. In in you know. So what happened is they raised substantially more revenue, but they actually brought down the tax bill for the average Virginian in those series of proposals which I think ties back to that senator or not I think probably both one method explicitly that they use to restore. Virginia's economic base was rebuilding infrastructure or at least that's what they campaigned on Doctor Levin. Good. What did they rebuild when they came to power? Their more notable developments readjust are credited with our things like education I don't I. Don't know that in their brief period, you can attribute an enormous amount of. You know infrastructure improvement and really where where things like railroads common make significant progress in Virginia comes because you do have so much out of state and foreign investment in railroads that penetrate the coalfields in South West Virginia, and so on. In in in that kind of late nineteenth early twentieth. Century period. I WanNa talk about the racial part of the story which is complicated and nuanced. So you had African American members of the General Assembly forming a COA who are mainly Republicans forming a coalition with this readjusting African American readjust as well, and so I mean, just UN's face the coalition itself was Biracial, but it's worth pointing out for the modern listener that they were not in favor.
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"Levin. Good. I wouldn't start by setting the scene here. So when the readjusts are formed and take power in the General Assembly in. Seventy nine give us the setting here. So this is like we're not even talking about reconstruction anymore. Reconstruction is like nine years past give us a window of what was going on in the late eighteen seventies that allowed this to happen. Well, I guess you're right to point out that reconstruction was over ended in Virginia and eighteen seventy when Virginia was readmitted to the. Union. But there was kind of this interim period questions were being determined as to who was going to be allowed to hold power. you it enfranchised the state, African American population. There were African Americans winning local offices. So the political social kind of setting was was really kind of a bit in flux. You know when you had some politicians and figures from the prewar Arrow returning and trying to get back into power and you had new voices being heard. So it was just a lot of tumble at the time and it created I think this unique situation in Virginia history where there was this. Void and the void in some ways was really filled by as you mentioned, the adjuster what comes to be called a readjust her party, and also it is important to point out that one of you know the key debate in this entire period is a financial debate. The the Commonwealth's finances are really hamstrung by the issue of prewar debt which sounds really boring except this is we're talking about more than probably half of the State's budget is being paid in interest payments. For the debt that it incurred. In. The antebellum period mainly building things like roads and railroads and canals, all sorts of internal improvements which. I'm sure. Delegates. Van. Valkenburgh, you know talks to students about sometimes in that in that pre war era that era of improvements the Virginia had invested in these things borrowed money to do it. And then of course, there most of them are destroyed by the civil war, and now they're left trying to figure out how they're going to pay this massive debt this in these interest payments and do everything else they need to do. And this question really lingers and hangs over the head of all this politics. We're going to get to the legacy later on in the podcast but delegate van. Valkenburgh. I'm GonNa sort of hinted that right now at the top of the show, which is how we think about the readjust now in the modern world, like what is their legacy? How do we think about this time period today? Yeah, that's a good question and I think there's there's two things that I think we should address when we talk about it I think. One thing we have to note is that the reason why they were even possible is kind of the structure that allowed them to come into power. In. So when you look back kind of the history of of Virginia politics, you look back at the history of Virginia Governance we we've had many constitutions you had the constitution seventeen, seventy, six constitution of eighteen, thirty, the constitution, eighteen, fifty one, and it's really only with the constitution of eighteen sixty nine which provided African Americans the right to vote which I did not have a poll tax was added. It was done by the readjusting now, but it was only within the context of that of that constitution that this moment could even rise and I think that speaks to how important it is to have a constitution that facilitates. Democratic participation whether that's in the vote or how you draw the lines. You Know Rep Tartar talks about the Great Gerrymander of eighteen thirty, which was basically baking into our constitution, the legislative power for the eastern part of the state, and what that did was give slave owners the power in Virginia all the way through until eighteen, eighteen, sixty, four in the nineteen, sixty, nine with the kind of postwar constitutions I? Think. That's one thing that's really important to know is how the fundamentals help lead to different policies in different politics, and then the second thing is it is an interesting moment is an interesting moment about what matters to people. Coming out of this, the debt was the important thing. There's this huge conversation around school debt. So the Eighteen seventy eight, the general MB passes a school appropriations bill and the Governor Vetos it. When you look back at the language of his veto and why he vetoed it is incredibly inflammatory but it's basically talking about we're GONNA pay off this debt and schools is optional thing. And then that kind of folds in that leads to Mahone the confederate general turned egalitarian who calls a conference and says, you know this conferences for anybody who wants to come in makes kind of explicit call to people from both races and out of that. You could this coalition that exists in almost you know immediately after once they're successful, the rug is kind of pulled out from under them because the debt is no longer the important thing in race kind of respect to the forefront, and so I think it speaks to. The contingency of politics as well and how coalitions will change, and you know how you guys talk about the transition from Republican to Democratic power and how maybe this General Assembly. Assembly was the most progressive in history and maybe it was. But you know what that means in two years is going to be a lot different because some of these issues have now been taken off the table or have been or maybe have been taken off the table on what does that mean for politics in two thousand and twenty, two to twenty four, right So I think. The lesson is both structural but also the kind of day today politics in what issues drive people in eighteen seventy, eight poor white folks poor black folks were incredibly concerned about schools in the debt issue didn't play. five years later. Everybody agreed that the readjusts did the right thing debt or seemingly right. They put it to bed in the issue became about race again. and. So I think those are two kind of interesting lessons. And I think what? Telling you know Michael Getting back to your question. There is how are the readjusts remembered today? We'll. They're not. I mean they they.
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"I didn't even know he was in town so he he was in town. This mishap happened and it was all over the paper I was like how sloppy can be refunded to the president. And you're running for a national election urinetown and you'RE GONNA Commonwealth Virginia or South Carolina North Carolina. Wherever you're at you don't even know what state you're in what locality. You're in or anything like that Whitney. We've seen lots of candidates. Come here to Richmond Right. Yeah I mean club. Chart was just here on Saturday. Obviously she's dropped out Sanders win was sanders here last week after Thursday and then this really surprised me because I was actually there for P. Buddha judge and I was so I was actually surprised that he I mean. He wasn't doing as well as he could but like. I was kind of surprised he dropped out. He got such a strong showing in northern Virginia. So many people came out and it seemed like there was just so much energy around him for for those who you know who supported him. It seemed like there was so much energy and people loved that he sounded and reminded reminded them of President Obama. You know on that on that same token And so I thought that he was gonNA. I thought he was going to be a little bit stronger than he was But I don't know I don't know what was I sanders Virginia. Yeah a couple of times. Andrew was in northern Virginia recently. And here's in Norfolk as well I was that crowded northern Virginia Norfolk do does he had eight thousand people in Norfolk Just the other day and some something crazy like that and then He had not as big Vigna limitations and I can't remember the specific number. Hit a very large crowd in northern Virginia. But that's expected you've got. I think it's one point. Two million voters in northern Virginia You can fill a room pretty easily with somebody who believes anything. I'm curious about the the timing here with all of these candidates dropping out at the last minute you know. Virginia infamously does not have early voting. You have to have an excuse to early. So there's been lots of people who have yet to cast their ballots And you have to think about like the alternative universe. Virginia did have early voting. And you had all these. Many many people voting for cloture judge in sort of casting their votes away. I can't remember another election cycle or so. Many people dropped out and the four days leading up to the election. Three days leading up to the election. The timing of this is just seems really yes. Yes is kind of bizarre because the Super Tuesday. I mean. Come on go. Thank you who Super Tuesday and then reassessed reevaluated. Delegates where you're at in the in the positioning in the polls and stuff like that. But he's dropped out well before and even come to Virginia speaking so the put the bill unanswered questions here is what are the effect of Bloomberg He probably essentially hurts Biden. What so what about Warren staying in the race like what are the dynamics there. Does she hurt or help anybody staying in the race? I would think that Liz Warren would be doing very well in a county like Arlington where it's a high high education spewed female and older and wealthier and and Liz Warren would be a very attractive candidate to people who are part of the system. They want to change it to make it more progressive. But they don't WANNA burn it all down between Biden and Bernie think well probably philosophically. Unfortunately I think most people are going to look at her going into the election day. Say or Primary Day and say well you know she doesn't at this point really have a pet the viability? She's been not to not been doing very well overall I like her. My heart might be with her but she's not a viable candidate and and a very educated democratic electric is GonNa come to similar conclusions in northern Virginia. So I think that's to be determined. You know I'm interested Thomas in your internal monologue here. I didn't realize that you were an undecided voter. So when you go to the polls on Super Tuesday you actually right now at this hour that we're recording this. You actually don't know who you're going to vote for. Yeah I can make an argument for any of them and I. I'm one of those never trumpers I wanted to seventy seven percent of Democrats. Who just want somebody who can beat Donald Trump So I don't think I'll be voting for Mike Bloomberg But the the the final vote is To be determined. I like Liz a lot. I think she she. I think she could do well. Especially contrasting against Donald Trump. Who would get distracted by just calling your poke hottest the whole time But then you've got Biden who's mental acuity issues are going to be his biggest vulnerability in my mind. That's ages Thomas. No I don't can do if the worst trump can do is call out Warren by calling her pocahontas than I think she's a city for Bet. Then yeah either either Biden or sanders the middle acuity talking about trump the way that she went after the Bloomberg love to see that on the stage. Yeah Yeah and to be clear with mental acuity. What I'm talking about is making reference to Richards earlier statement about Biden. Forgetting where he is he. He'll be probably the oldest person will help he'll be the person who presents the oldest. Yes Bernie Sanders is. I think older but Biden has struggled and some of the early debates and if we see that Biden come back post Super Tuesday. That could present a really big problem for the Democratic Party. I definitely think Thomas you're not alone in that still somewhat undecided but you will throw support behind anybody who the party ultimately chooses. It sounds like a lot of Virginians. Feel that way one hundred percent. That's correct you. It's lot easier to do this when we're the same room. This is like this is totally Jack leg. Richard is this more or less jack leg than last time. Don't have earpiece in my ear so that's good. It's positive in that respect but it's negative because I don't have a drink in my hand. Yes we'll we'll have to remedy that sometime later this week or maybe after session after I have a strong cup of coffee rather than rather than like a couple of glasses barred. Lamey you ten so okay. Let's do this. And then let's wrap up. Richard what is your top three prediction. What are one two three finish in Virginia on on Super Tuesday on in? But it's going to be close than sanders mourn but I think it's GonNa be close so when you win and I don't make predictions Thomas Beck around to you. What are your top three predictions? One two and three. You know what? I'm actually right on board with Richard. Here I think it's going to be a Biden Bernie and Warren following up. Pete had been doing well but now that he's gone. I think Biden's got the edge. The question is would you WANNA do? Is he going to continue the edge? Or YOU'RE GONNA lose the edge after Super Tuesday flounders. You know like he's done in the debates and he's come back he's done that. Several Times were extends east two incomes by and you know locally you know for Democrats. It hasn't been fatal Republicans have poundstone enough. But you know I don't think he's going to be able to come back from you. Know if he's got a pretty You know bad loss on Super Tuesday..