17 Burst results for "Virgil Ortiz"
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"virgil ortiz" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"You know, Spence has been a welterweight his entire career Crawford obviously moved up from lightweight in one world titles at 35 and 40 before he got to a welterweight. So he hasn't been a welterweight for his whole career or anything, but you can't, you know, it's got to be hard for el Spence, particularly because he's made the mistake of blowing up and wait between fights. It can't be easy for a guy who's 32 going on 33 years old to make that weight. He's 5 9 and a half, 5, ten, whatever he is and, you know, it can't be easy at that point. So hopefully sooner than later, they would that fight would happen. Let's just hope they keep winning and at least there's the possibility of that fight because I would favor Ennis, of course, but a fascinating fight. Virgil Ortiz is a beast. Offense. A lot of offense out of Virgil Ortiz offense and skill out of Jerome and it's an unbelievable fight for both those guys. Credit to your point, credit Spencer, being able to make welterweight this long. Guy fought the Olympics at one 52. He's been at one 47 for his entire pro career. Yeah, I don't blame him at all for wanting to move up and wait. So I do think by the middle of next year, last quarter of next year, winner of Ortiz standing onis will be the full title holder there, boots will be a full-time IVF and then hopefully saner minds can prevail and we're not doing this all over again at welterweight. All right, let's finish with the fight you're at. Terrific fight. Frank Martin, Michael Rivera, two guys undefeated. Martin is what, 27, Michael Rivera is 24. They're both contenders. Surprised we're getting this fight. This is a great fight for people like you and me that watch these guys coming up. It doesn't have the broad mainstream appeal. It's the kind of fight that to borrow a bob arum phrase that promoters would let marinate under different circumstances. Let me ask us, why are they fighting? I don't want to, I'm not poo pooing it because I'm glad it's happening, but why are these two guys fighting right now at this stage of their career?
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"virgil ortiz" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"I think both those guys need to be unified champion 100% knockout ratio. Okay, but so Virgil Ortiz has a 100% knockout ratio. They're Devin Haynes of pound for pound or is the underwear? He's not a champion yet, better be of his unified champion with the other one. I'm saying Devin Haney is a 135 pound undisputed. So you say he should be on a list or no. No. He's right outside of it. 11 or 12. Like I said, because I'm not going to take out Josh Taylor. I'm not going to take off a beetle, and I'm not going to take off who was the other one. Better be of, was it? And I certainly am not going to take out better bit. That would probably be my number ten. Better bib. Yeah. And guess what? He's what? 37 years old. Seniority manics. It matters. Yes, it does matter, because you're old. All right, let's jump into some of these Instagram questions that we got for this. Let's start with Mike. Well, tank Davis fight a top 15 guy in December. Am I getting paid overtime for this? Yes, you are. What was the question? Will tank David? A top 15 guy in December. That's what he's scheduled for. Come on, man. Tank Davis is already who he is. They're promoting them to make money, not promoting them to be great. And you got to appreciate that as a businessman. You got to appreciate the fact that this kid doesn't mind making millions of dollars fighting people that aren't on the championship level. He's knocking them out. He's popular. He's a millionaire and Mayweather promotion is, you know, they're going in the right direction. Okay, you don't have a fan as a fan. I hate when you do this. I hate when you divide yourself into three parts, like fan boxer promoter. Like just be yourself. Answer the question. I am being myself. And I said, no, he's not going to fight it. Well, I think look, Esau Cruz fights this weekend. Certainly possible he fights his soccer in a rematch that nobody really wants to see. I don't know who else is out there between a 130, a 140 pounds for him. Like it's not a big section of weight classes for PBC. And it's just a bad look. Like the Ryan García negotiators are dead, they've moved on. Ryan's moved on. Everybody's moved on. I don't believe that fighting. And that's the reason people get upset with Garcia because they think that he cries wolf a lot. You know, the fact that he cried wolf? You hear tank Davis? He's not calling anybody out. No, the fact that this is willing to fight tank Davis is saying, I'll do this. I'll do that. I'll do that. But then it never happens. It's not his fault. No, it's not his fault. That's the point. It's just the politics and the business of the game. But I love the fact that he's doing that. It's tank Davis is not doing it. Hank David is not calling anyone out. He never he never says I want this man. I want that one. Devin Haney does. Ryan García. Should you? Should tank Davis be calling guys out? Yeah, because you know what, at this point of his career, even though everything's going good for him, people want more than that. They want a hero, you know? They want someone to get it inspired by. And then he's not inspiring anyone at this point. He's making a lot of money. And selfishly, he's doing the right thing.
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"virgil ortiz" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"As I speak Keith, is it crazy to think of like Eddie luring Pacquiao to the UK to fight Connor Ben? Right, and obviously it would be a huge event in the UK. I mean, for sure. Yeah, we shouldn't discount him working with other promoters at this point either. But do not put him in the ring with whatever they do. Don't put him in the ring with you on Ennis. To a lesser degree Virgil Ortiz, but geron is Manny Pacquiao in a different country than Jordan. But don't don't you think this ends, it's going to end for him with him knocked out cold. Probably the only way this is going to be. It's unfortunate. We've already seen it, right? We saw it. We saw it almost ten years ago. He was not unconscious by Juan Manuel Marquez, and I remember tweeting that night. It's been a great career. And at that point, he was only 32 or whatever he was. I mean, 32 years old. I was like, man, that was vicious, and he's been through a lot of tough fights. Maybe that's enough. And then he came back and look what he did. So who knows, you know? I hope Freddie tells him not to do it. He won't, but I hope Freddy's always said like he'll tell him when it's time. It feels like it's time. And I think he's already told him that. And he ignored it. He ignored it. Don't work with him though. Do you really want to be responsible or partly responsible for him getting knocked out cold by one of these top guys at one 47? I don't know. I would. Connor bendo is interesting to me because Connor Ben has not been tested yet by a guy that could punch and I think that's purposeful. That'd be a fun fight in the UK. Pacquiao wasn't in the era necessarily of Nigel benn, but was closer to it than others. Fighting Connor Ben at one 47. You could develop a story around that and that would sell out Wembley to do that fight in the UK. That'd be a massive event. Yeah, no, I agree, Chris, bring Pacquiao over there and it would be a great way for Connor Ben, even though Pacquiao is 43 years old. Conor Ben beats him, it still takes him to another level, of course. There would be an enormous event. So that's not a bad idea. And he becomes more mainstream in the U.S., which he's not right now. As big as he is in the UK and growing in the UK, nobody casual really knows him in the U.S.. That's a fun fight. See, look at us. We're creating. Tell your people over there at the zone. Make it happen, you know? Anyone can do it. Wow. We'll end it with that, Keith. Keith, Keith edict, read his stuff over at boxing scene dot com follow him on Twitter at idec box and Keith. I will Amazon you some socks for your appearance. I don't want those fruit and a loom underwear. Don't send me that cheap stuff, you know? Absolutely not. All right, man, I'll talk to you soon..
THE FIGHT with Teddy Atlas
"virgil ortiz" Discussed on THE FIGHT with Teddy Atlas
"He's gonna get old. I just don't know that. Plus two eighty five is enough to vote on or the vote with gas for me. It's not for me to go against a great many baggio and you get back to eighty to eighty five whatever it is. It's not enough for me. Not not for me. I agree with you. Well with that said brandon craving my bobber at westside bobber in santa monica. Get the sheer sharpened up with sending the jet for you. I need a haircut. Teddy said it. It's official teddy. Thanks for being with us today. Those let me throw one other thing. Can i guess before we close shop here Talking about newspaper writers. We've talked about a little bit. I like i said jerry izenberg mea culpa before we went on the air i also got a call from does not too. Many real right is left in his country that cover boxing. I mean you got the internet stuff. Some of them are good. Some of them are You know Some of them just for their meals. Whoever's paying a bill you know The promoters whatever they write favorable. But there's some there was some websites that are real genuine authentic have credibility but the one thing that there's really not anymore. There's no right is out there that right for newspapers. They've they've gone the way of the dinosaur like they've barely they don't really exist anymore but there's one that is a good writer. Josh pita over usa today. They don't do a lot of stuff on boxing really but they do. You know if it's a big enough fight of his fat. They do some judge peter from usa today. He called me Earlier this morning and he. He asked me if i had seen a fight. And i will talk about these fights. And i said food fight and i had no idea Mom and al lee's nephew of believe was his nephew. Alleys nephew fought his pro debut. I guess in the last few days and if he scored a one round knockout and he wanted to know what i thought of so of course i told him i didn't even know he fought. I didn't see it. So he's he's sending me the video. It's short it's one round. i'll look at it. I'll get back to him to let him know what i. Obviously the name is. What attracts everybody. We understand that The lineage does he have anything like the. You know like his uncle. But i'll get back to him today when i look at the footage of it but i just wanted to bring it up. That alleys nephew fought. And that i will report on it next week after i look at it as i said i'll get back to judge. Usa today let him know what i thought. But then i'll let you know can rob and all all great fans for the ones that are interested just in the name of the great name of mohammed ali. His nephew can his nephew could carry it on in a ring to any kind of level. So i'll i'll report back to you guys like dutiful soldier of report back on. Look at it tell you what my breakdown of. It is obviously as josh peter. Who's a good writer. So he's he understands the deal. Obviously the palmer was not any elk Not if any you know level But no different than than most of these opponents when you go nagai up early on you usually not fighting anybody of any level until you get past the first half dozen or more fights so That's usually the says. Usually the journey is used the way they do it. So anyway You know what. I'm just thinking because when you're fighting these early fights you're you're you're fighting real. The the had chosen as times would say you bring your music you know and so you never know. I'm just wondering it makes me think for second as i'm saying it now maybe that's why you haven't heard from your balba wonder if you took one. I wonder you've been typically taking care. Have you been taking cam appropriately. Koa's asked a. i always ask the bobber. What's the best tip you got this week and try to be in that context. Because i never wanna wait for an appointment. Well i hope so. Because i'd hate to find out that he was you opponent for alex. Nephew that's why you can't find him. He's a pretty tough guy he might. He might be up for the challenge. I'm sure you were listening. He's gotta deal with you. I'm sure he is mentally tough. I'm sure he is thank steady. Well listen it was great talking as always thanks for all the comprehensive breakdowns appreciate it. Thanks to all the fans for tuning in. Please subscribe like the video share comment. You know the drill. Thanks for being with us and we'll be back next week with a breakdown of mohammed ali's grandson and the pack yow who goes fight. Thanks for being with us. See next week..
THE FIGHT with Teddy Atlas
"virgil ortiz" Discussed on THE FIGHT with Teddy Atlas
"The money paki out can make more money than august when pac l. fights they get a big sanction of fee because pack l. will be demanding more money. Yes true but you're not gonna get you know. Zero zero last check still amounted to zero. So y- you're not gonna get a big sanction fee from paquito if he's if he leaves you and he goes and fights spats because that's gonna be the next elwin says fight. That's what it's going to be next. He's gonna go and he's going to you know god willing spence heels up with his detached retina and he's ready to go he's going to follow that and he's going to go and wind up making that fight most likely and if that happens pack out could care less about their belt. Go fight for spence's belt so in that way you have to be aware that the wpa or wb is wbz right candidates and for the record it was the super wba welterweight title. They got so many frigging belts to the regular the super call the belt. Get it i get it. They got it the regular the regular regular the silver the bronze the the pro the tin paper. The foil guy. I mean there's just there's so many to so they it's it's unbelievable so they don't be surprised then it's a close fight if they if they say wait a minute we're gonna save offers. A guy who knows going to stay with us where pack is going to be leaving us and we're going without going to we're not gonna get any section of fees from him so that's keep keep our champion that we do have control over. So that's something that could be an x factor that has to be thought about a little bit especially by you. Mybookie people out there that that part of the great mybookie and your that you do you do some gambling were my bookie because that is something that has to be thought about them. I'm sure my man. Bill cracking burger the great handicap in vegas. I'm sure he's thinking about that So having said that as far as the breakdown of the styles because styles make fights never forget that styles do make this guy beat this guy who's should beat. Nope don't work that way. Oh this guy's begging as dining and you know he beat this guy. This guy lost to this guy so he should beat. Nope styles make fights. Olga's is a completely different style from spent spencer's aggressive big while to wait. Who uses a great southpaw jab. And he comes forward. He also boxes but he comes forward a lot and he goes to the body real. Good hooligans goes so body pretty damn good but not as consistently as spence and organises not as southport. So matt has been training for south poor so there is a there is some adjustment there that he's got to now be ready for all dogs but that it shouldn't be hard for mattie. Because many is the south point of usually fights hordes the dog fighting for the million of them so so that shouldn't be a big adjustment Form and as i said guys is ready. He's in shape because he was on the undercard getting ready so it's not like he's being toning down on a moment's notice with no conditioning. The different styles where spence is a busy guy at an aggressive guy for the most part googlers counterpunch. He's a counterpuncher. he's not a busy guy. I thought he'd technically wanna porter fight. But he got out of hustled. He got out worked a little bit. I still thought he landed the cleaner punches but he didn't get credited for them because he wasn't busy enough. He allowed the opening together up to get out hustled to to to be outworked and puertas credit with his jab. Did that at least in a way that the judge he did so august is the kind of guy you can out hustle. You can out work where you have to be careful as walking straight in or getting caught commented because he's a decent counterpuncher and like i said he's a pretty good body puncher but he's not a guy who's going to put up big punch numbers. He's not a guy that's gonna tear. It up outweigh. Who's gonna pressure who's going to be always on you. I think it's an easier fight for pack. Y'all hopefully mentally doesn't guy. His experience shouldn't but mentally doesn't have a little down if you will calling from spence. Two guys gaza good solid fighter. He's a bronze-medalist from that. Great cuban olympic team. He's a bronze-medallist but even saying that most were that cuban olympic team that great national cuban olympic team. If you're not a gold medalist and now is you. You didn't win. You lost bronze medals a great accomplishment and it is but if you come from the cuban team it's not it's gold or nothing so he's not. He didn't win the gold. But these are real good solid fighter. He's a guy that as i said he's gonna look for you to make mistakes. He's gonna look to take advantage of your aggression. He's gonna look to time. Mattie combination he's gonna look for moments to go to the body of money stance and fraud or maybe catch. Mattie would lead right hands right hands of south porculus off as mayweather proved against pac. Yell that you can use that lead right handed. United use it. The right way of mattie stands in front of him his look to use the right hand lead of mattie comes in a little reckless he'll look to counteract them his hands on not real fast august his hands. They're not slow but they're not real fast. Maddie's hands a real fast. We understand that some of the fed's stance maybe in the history of the sport. I mean that's how fast is hands. I like gadgets. It easier fight. I think on paper for matty and listened teddy atlas. Say telling you nothing when he tells you when you go from spence to anybody else is going to be an easier fight for the most part so i'm not telling you any secrets there but it is an easier. I should be from a technical standpoint on paper. But you never know because you're not fighting. Paper does human beings getting in there. You're talking about emotions. You're talking about the mental state. You talk about all of that. And i don't know if there's a little letdown for mattie. As i said but at the end of the day my pick is going to be manny by what should be unanimous decision. That's gonna turn into a split decision because some sha cannery by the dwp chicanery with these. Are you kidding teddy. Oh no come on really should connery when arc. You serious yes. I'm serious. There could be some monto. The wbz wasted their shot on the maestri fight. They had a chance to like rob the great man now. Everyone's going to be watching them so they're probably like oh damn everyone's watching this time. We got to be careful. You know what. I have an old saying that was given to me by by the great costa model. Mike guy my mentor. People born around dodi square. Don't worry there's these guys are crooks they're still think like crooks still behave coaxed to still be like hooks still act like crooks if they can if they can you bring up a good point but if they candidates still behave that way. They can't help it. That's what they are and But was say. I'm gonna say mattie by unanimous decision but if there's some some bad play there by the wba something of foul then. I'm going to say it turns into a split decision that it turns into a split there like magicians. You know like like instead of opponent rabbit. Out of the hat they pull. They put a crooked decision out of that but they've been demonstrated they go right. Funnier here we got watch this trick. I have a unanimous decision in my hands. And i will say abracadabra presto and make it into a split decision. That is my magic trick for tonight so that you gotta be careful. They're very good at that magic. And that's my. That's my feeling about the fight that many for me. Mattie here's the one thing i got it. Throw in there so qualify. The one thing. I gotta throw in there. I'd be too fast too busy too smart too good. And he'll win a unanimous decision here out hall so here at work. A real solid fighter in uganda is except you're ready except unless marry.
THE FIGHT with Teddy Atlas
"virgil ortiz" Discussed on THE FIGHT with Teddy Atlas
"And i thought that fox separated himself knows rounds to make it clear to make a clear case of what's clip because what i described early whether there was some give and take and know body work to make clear that he deserved to get that and it should be only one guy getting his hand race and it should have been fox so i think that's a fair way of breaking it down for me for my position To to give all elements of it. The way i saw it again. Just you know i. It's to the point. Like i used to get upset over the years corner fights. Espn like the worst thing that the sport has done to us with these corrupt and inept officials and incompetent officials as that. It makes you almost say well. What do you expect. it's boxing and that's terrible. That's dangerous because we should never get to that point where was so knob but we are to that point. Where was so numb where we say. What do you expect. that's boxing. Yeah yeah it's terrible you scream for a few minutes and then you go back to business as usual and nothing happens. You know that these judges you know how many fights i've seen. It was so horrible. Can that we even worse than as i know. That's hard to wrap your mind around. But even worse. Because i i've seen so much so much and then the judge is working next week. The nothing happens it happens. And that's the thing that i used to always get on. Have some accountability. You know suspend these judges fire these judges sanctions judges take take their take their take that job away into. They show that they've earned the back. I've said it many times. I have no. It's not it's it shouldn't be an order. It's not an automatic thing that you get a license you have to earn a license privilege. You know i. It's it's not something that that is just given. It's a privilege that you have a license when you no longer showed that you deserve that privilege. You should lose it. I mean you lose your driver's license when you show that you can't drive properly anymore. It gets taken away from you. You have too many accidents you know your license gets taken away. Why because you deserve to have it anymore because the people in charge say. Hey you're dangerous. You could hurt somebody. Well guess what. These judges shouldn't have their license because they're dangerous. They could and do hurt somebody. They hurt these fighters korea's these fighters that take punches to get to that place and they earn the right. They finally get there to make money for their family. Because that's part of why that donut and that's a big part of why we do what we do. And they get there and now they have to chance and it gets taken away and they have to go to the back of the line again and take all those punches again to get there again if they ever get there and in this case maybe a rebadged is going to be ordered because of how barris the wb is right to save face to make it look like they care which they don't put make it look like they care but here's the problem. He might not be what he was that night he might be but it might not be the stars might not line up perfectly the way they did physically emotionally mentally in every way for him. So that's my take on it. It's terrible as i said The great brian kennedy said you know. He said it's the worst that he's seen. It's not the worst. I've seen but it's it's bad enough. It's pretty damn bed and you know the saddest staying is what i touched on earlier. That gets to us to a place. Where we shrug our shoulders after a while we just move on. But we're not shrug it on sodas. Well do what you to your credit You the one who brought it up to me. I always give credit where credit still. You're the one who brought it up and said we need to touch on this and so we are touching on it. And hopefully we've done a justice of for this kid fox That that he deserves to be done. Yeah well hopefully michael fox a chance to get back to where he was. It was an awesome performance. And hopefully we can do up heart and seeing that he gets some form of justice here. It's really a travesty. What they did but hey it is what it is man. There's so much that we could. We could spend a day on this talking about everything that went wrong here but without being said spent has a torn retina. unfortunately he's out yougov last minute replacement. Pack yao coming up this weekend. We have the awesome fight plan that we put together for spence pack. Yeah i believe. Rob is gonna posted on thursday anyway just to you guys idea of what we were thinking about in anticipation of that fight but given the last minute replacement teddy. What do you look for for from this fight now. With how much of an impact is this going to have on. Pack ya'll's preparation. And what are you. Give goss inch in regards to his chances against pac. Ya with a last-minute last minute fight last last minute to prepare for this type of fight. Well first of all the first thing that should be understood to the audiences oguz not a last minute replacement in a way that he's not prepared As far as conditioning and training for five because he was on the undercard. He's got he's got the belt he's got the title the funny thing. The interesting thing about this is that he's got it's the wb all right. I just wanna make sure that i'm correct. Yeah he's got the. Wb oh well you look for that. I'll just go on. He's got the wb. Oh title And he'll be defending that title now against paquito and like i said he's not he's not stepping in in a way where it's allows minute replacement way. He didn't have time to pet. He's been in a full training camp because he was defending his title on cod. He was fighting on on a undercard of this show. So he's a guy who's ready. He's in shape it's b. all right can he. He's ready it says. Wba so you know. He's got the boat. Here's the ironic part of it because we try to bring everything to the fans. He's got the belt that was taken away from here. The patio or right. He's got the twelve pack. Had no ring now the the reasoning the excuse that the w i guess it's wpa definitely w the reasoning that the wnba us to take that belts away from him was that he was inactive now. Everybody was inactive for covert. And everything else going on. But that pat cow was inactive so a. They took the beltway and they gave the in term belt They let oguz fight for the internal about an oguz. Won the interim belt Here's of course what they forget to tell you was stat. They didn't use. They didn't use his same sort of Standard for for keith thurman key thurman earlier years earlier he had been inactive two two and a half years and they didn't strip him at given a term title yet they strip pack yell and they they allowed oguz of course to wind up getting this interim title. But why didn't they strip. Why did they strip pack not stripped armand because terminal was more in line will be in buddies with them. You know being friendly with them you know pactel's the kinda guy that you know. He's not always friendly with everyone in that way. he's he's a great guy. He helps filipino. People he's one of the greatest humanitarian javer gonna meet He gives most of his plenty away to the great filipino people. He helps those people. He's a congressman over there. You helps them that way too. I mean is this special man. This is a selfless man. That does things that very few people do besides what he does inner ring. I'm about what he does outside the ring. But you know he doesn't always cared about you know an organization getting their blood sucking Fees and sanctioning fees that they get that they get them you know he doesn't care so much about belts and they wanna make sure that they have a guy who's representing them that's going to continue to represent them that they can continue so you have to think for a minute at has to be part of the analysis here into this fight that if does fighters competitive or because they don't even care this so erica rob. Somebody's we just talked about with the foxfire. Even if it's not real competitive there still rob ya. But that's just say give them a little bit of credit and say they're not quite that bold but they are but if to fight is close you wonder evoke ass- is gonna be a lot of people say oh no not over pack help because first of all patio follow..
THE FIGHT with Teddy Atlas
"virgil ortiz" Discussed on THE FIGHT with Teddy Atlas
"Fox is a black kid or at least half black and he. She has been suspended enough for her crap scorecard but because it's come to light that. She's made racist comments on twitter. I how stupid do you have to be to make racist comments on twitter. It's bad enough to make racist comments in your life but to put it on twitter high. Let me make sure sell out for your racist. That's how easy it is. You're you're being a racist. It's about distinctive about that simple. You i listen. Look terrible i. So we've made the point that mas- mas- stray is w b a fighter. So they're interested in him for what i always wanted to stay at the one thing that you left out. I believe there was a if i read. This right can correct we along but there was actually i. I don't mean to left but there was actually a wba officials sitting in a corner of my australia's on gonna fight. I mean that that's correct. It's not kosher not kosher. That's not supposed to be a little problem there all right so so i just wanted to throw that in there. Listen terrible decision. My my the man who does a great job who Does the blow by blow. Commentary for the brian kenny. Good friend of mine. We started together at espn. He's like a brother. He e called me up. He called me up the other day and He's headed out to vegas now. I guess he's out there now for the googlers. He's going to be not for fox. I guess if fox dole gusau pactel fight so anyway he told me that was. I believe he said it's the worst he's seen but i i joke with him. I said you don't get out of a lot of you probably. That's the worst that you've ever seen. It was bad but you gotta get out more. You gotta get out a little more often in my years in his sport. Which of course is more years than brian's been in sport. You know from the different places. I've been from the trainers point of fighters point you know and the commentary. I've seen worse. I've seen a lot worse. And in my years where i just went crazy on the air and tried to do everything i could to try to bring attention to the atrocities that i see in you know when it came to just tearing up ripping out of these kids chest. When they earned the thing that dream earning when they're little kids a world title and that they might never get a chance to have again. Never get a chance to fight for again You know i think rematch is going to be ordered because of the publicity the bad publicity that's been brought to this the attention that's been brought. They're gonna probably do what they do and act like. Oh yeah you know we care. so now. They're forced to act like they care and they're going to order a rematch probably Because of that but it doesn't mean that at all come together for the way he did that night. Sometimes things just ready. You're just ready to win the world title and you might never be in that frame of physical frame or mental emotional frame again. You might not and it gets taken away. Just like the when i went crazy and my partner bob papua crazy. Try to defend these kids and do the best. We could When we saw again these kids just in olympics over the years laying on the floor crying just laying on the floor. You know just in tears because their dream of an olympics. I've been. I've been taken away by by corrupt officials and so i it was. Bed is the worst i've ever seen. No because they will. There were moments where must stray. I'd say for the first six. I'd say i six seven rounds where he was the aggressor that's his style he was the aggressor and he was land. Somebody's shots and he was able to get forward in spots. Now take it away from fox fox was as i often say when breaking a fight down. Fox was owning geography. He needed to own. i avoid. He's six foot four six three and a half whatever he is. He's extremely unusually tall for welterweight and so he needed to be on the outside. He's got a skinny body he needed to be on the outside. He was for the most part. He knew exactly what he needed to do was using his legs who's boxing. He was owning that geography. Try to make may stray ma stray pay a price to get forward. You know. make them earn his way in. Charge them for that real estate. You know instead of charging dollars. Says i would say what i was called fights yet you charge them. You charge them punch you charge him in punches. To three punches is to feed the toll to get close to me and he was fighting with that mentality with that physicality and again there will rounds where mass stray was able to get. Close way was able to go to the body also to make the decision. Even more salting fox dropped master. In the second round beautiful beautiful left-hand quarterb coming in fox's southport has power punches the backhand the left hand caught him a beautiful left-hand clean right on the button. Drop them so. That's a ten eight round. I like to see the scorecards. I would love to see the scorecards really because you need forensics almost when you're going to these crooks to really get inside their minds their criminal minds of why they're doing this and how they're doing like vic- the scorecards and i see that rounds not attend eight round. Wow i mean that's even more blatant that. That's that's that's that's even that's even more criminal like they're not even hiding it then. Not even using gloves. At least you're gonna rob somebody you know put gloves on but if teddy round then they're not even they're not even going to that point so that shows their arrogance like we could do whatever we want. It doesn't matter so and i've seen it. I've seen it through the years. And like i say you know i. I've seen worse but this was bed. This was bad. And i'm trying to put all trying to put all trying to be fair as i always try to be really colored. The whole thing where there was mass trae was to what he had to do. The shorter guy the more aggressive guy getting close first. Six rows of so seven rounds was back and forth spots except the second round. That was a ten round where fox was able to score the knockdown but then a big change. I'd say around the eighth round around the eighth round us. Oh man stray who had never been past four rounds he slowed.
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"virgil ortiz" Discussed on THE FIGHT with Teddy Atlas
"Instincts instincts where he knew it was time to go. The body tries something different. He went to the body changed the whole fight instincts to go downstairs and he showed himself to be a great finisher showed of all. Wow he really did. He showed himself to really know what to do with a guy when he's got a guy heard like customer said to me all the teddy big show. The guy knows how to get the guy out of there without risking himself but get him out of there and he got him out of there he knew how to get them out of there. What i'm describing right now to virgil tease for the fans of his out there for him for his people as doing a great job because he's becoming more than just a puncher he's becoming more than just you know that. That sensational young guys. We see a lot of them. Come along and we see a lot of them. Go along you know. They don't stay when they get to that point of finding out what the inventory. What's in a warehouse and does kin- disappearing because he is developing into a well rounded fighter not a punch only a well rounded fighter dimensional fighter. Were you supposed to develop into in his business. He's learning he's showing it. I was very impressed. I was really impressed impressed with his character the way he handled himself the way he presents himself and the way he does business in as squared circle and the way he answered the bell what he was tested again the best compliment. I can give i. Don't give them out too easily. You know that can defense know that. So i give them what i think. It's when i think i've found out that it's time to give it. I wait. I wait and i think it's time to say yeah he's becoming he's not completely there but he's becoming a complete fighter though. I'll finish with this. I said all these platitudes about him. Stay away from crawford. I know that they're throwing that name around and he's calling them out and he's behaving the way you want. Get to behaviors. You know saying yeah. Give give me the best give you the best. Stay away from coffin. I just think that crawford is right now. One of those different categories in one of those different places. He's one of those special. I don't think people know how special confidence i really mean that. I don't think people know he's got that little x. factor that that that gene. If you will. That makes guy special. I don't i don't think he's gonna get a chance hopefully to show that good. Get the fights to show that. But i don't think that everyone realizes steady quote house special. He is that hillary rise higher when the moment is higher to rise to. He's kinda guy. So i would just say no. Knock on virgil i just. I just gave him his greatest built up as you could give a fighter but you twenty three years old you know go after the win of pack yellow and and google you know or somewhere else go somewhere else. But i wouldn't go for and listen. I know when i say go somewhere else teddy. It's easier said than done because of the politics of the sport. You can't just go somewhere else because you're not allowed to just go somewhere else. Because there's there's borders signs up there. There's fences up does blockades up that. Stop you and it's all about what network you with. What promoter you're with you know who's controlling your career and way you can go. I get it. I understand that. That's unfortunate. i've talked about that before about that problem in the sport. So i'm not going to talk about it anymore. Right here I think you guys have heard me before you guys understand that problem. But the point. I'm making is find another place to go other than quoted for that for that belt and belt. Probably be the first of many because there's a lot of belts out there. Speaking of the belts one of the inconsequential belts and wba welterweight title. I don't even know what regular super intercontinental. Whatever they're calling it but was up for grabs two weeks ago. We didn't get a chance to talk about. I wanna revisit. Just because the outcry on social media justifiably so has been so loud. And that was the professor michael fox against must mastabas oughta venezuela three and decorated amateur career. I think he'd be into the semi finals in two different olympics or the quarterfinals one or the other but decorated amateur career. Three and always a pro. Michael fox gets a last. Minute is a last minute replacement in this fight clearly. The matchmaker didn't do his job. Because you know they were bringing in michael fox thinking he was gonna be a decent name opponent for this kid food and a right to food fools. Yup michael fox drops them as first time in his career. Master may stray goes down. And i mean the scorecards was so one sided. I thought fox won the fight. I'm dying to hear what you thought but one judge added seventeen eleven. I can't even remember name female outta miami. But as it turns out she's married to an executive or someone affiliated with the wb the wb because they put an interim title belt on the line in minnesota. They were able to insist on the judges that they wanted. Normally that would fall to the minnesota athletic commission but the wba got to bring in the judges they wanted and they delivered exactly what they were told to deliver a decision for my stray minus minus get knocked out. There was no way fox wins the fight so while michael fox has been robbed sent to the back of the line at least we could do is put them on the wall of fame here and get them up on the congratulations michael fox teddy. Tell me what you thought of the fight for us. Then we'll get to the wba. Just listen just to color and a little bit more of your point. You did a hell of a job with it. Mazdas for no confusion. He's a wbz fight. He's the he's there in term champion. Wba it is right. Because i get confused with all these letters yes. Wb we'd be asking. That's how i call weepy as we'd be collecting people onus news so it's the weepy s grow. It's that group that okay. Can i just wanna make sure. It's gloria martinez. Rizzo gets her just to. She's the she's the judge that it's been suspended for those who didn't see the fight..
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"virgil ortiz" Discussed on THE FIGHT with Teddy Atlas
"Give them all the credit and kudos. They deserve when they do something deserving. And so i wanna give credit to one of the commentators. Chris mannix for having a guts and honesty. A lot of these guys. Don't they really don't but he had the guts and honesty. Maybe he doesn't want to work anymore like me. He wants to join unemployment line and I don't know i'm not sure maybe. But whatever or maybe just feels the way to pages. Sometimes you have to say some. But chris mannix. He had the guts to say what i used to be the only one. I've felt very lonely. I really did. I only one out there saying that these alphabet organizations are just a corrupt joke and their bloodsuckers. That's the word he used can that they're bloodsuckers taking money from the fighters in the form of sanction of fees destroying the sport by diluting and the menacing the value of these titles and he pointed out that they came right out and said the. Wpa has forty seven. you're ready can. I'll say it again. Forty-seven title bouts alone. The wb forty seven pants fall down. Call the wbz. Foam up coma as rob rob's pants fall down dick kids when they come home from school their pants and for we'll call the wbz there. Make sure that that japan's own fall down. They give you a belt and then they'll create rice. I mean forty seven title belts. I mean wow. And i. I used to simply take their call letters and make them into what i thought was more was was more fitting the. Wbai called them. We be asking the wbz. i called. We'd be collecting the i called. I be felonious so you know. Listen at the end of the day off. Good terrorists retained his belt. I was not impressed. I i just didn't think he was impressive. I thought the fight was closer than the judges had it. I didn't score it. But i felt that alvarado could've could've even been ahead or or even or even like where it could have been a draw or say a point behind. I mean i'm happy with any of it. You know you could be a point ahead. A point behind it could have been a draw but the judge has had it unanimous one sixteen twelve sixteen one twelve and one fifteen one thirteen. I live with one fifteen hundred thirteen. I guess i'd have to. I said was i thought it was close but i could've saw draw or like i said virata could have been up a point but not the worst scoring i've seen. Unfortunately i've seen much worse much much worse but for me virata was more aggressive. He was busier Good t- errors stayed on the outside with his jab looking for the right hand spots but he wasn't busy. I mean i didn't think he didn't enough and i thought he's stood two straight up and he pulled back to often straight way too often where he loved himself available by doing that. I just didn't dig. It was an impressive performance fam. That's that's pretty much the whole breakdown of the undercard and now you take us to the main event baby here like i said earlier. Golden boy savior it. Looks like virgil ortiz. A with an awesome performance against the mean machine knocked them down multiple times. Just look big and strong came. Bag had to dig deep by thinking the second or third round. He got rocked. He was on wobbly. Legs gained his. Composure fought through it. I love. I love this kid. He using citing fighter went and got him when he had to Fought back and dug deep when he had to. What you think you know. I follow in your footsteps. There can You know. Obviously i'll put my stamp on it but i've follow in in things that you just laid out there He's now eighteen in old with eighteen. Knockouts he's twenty three years old. He looks even young. Looks like he's seventeen. I mean he he. He looks even younger. He looks like a great kid for more reports on him. he's he is terrific eight What i got what. I took away for me. He got pets that as you touched on. He got shaken up. He got tested. He had to quite often. I referred to a lot of these fighters employed and being served surf the surf from the favorable side of the menu of your will. They're they're being serve very digestible meals of very easy to eat meals as opponents and and then of course they start getting to the they still get into the more serious side of the menu. Where the you know where you have to chew your food a little bit more. And we saw that. He had to choose food a little bit more he. He wasn't eating from that side of the menu the other night and he got he got his. You said he got tested a bit and you always want to see the fighter. Scott has because you already think you know what's on the outside but you don't know yet what's on the inside and there's only one way to find out when they get tested and those kind of ways and as i also would use an analogy. I would often say you know. It's kind of like macy's christmas wendell. You know you see the christmas window and you look at it and it's got all the good stuff in a window and you say wow. Wow wow look at that. That's tremendous i. It's it's enticing. It makes you wanna go into store and then you go into store and they tell you oh no. We don't have that you know. Sometimes you go in there. And they'd say oh no we don't have it in inventory. It's night in a warehouse. Well that's how i look at these prospects. I wanna see. I already saw woodson a window. I wanna see what's in a warehouse the same thing but football players in my buddy out there. I'll washington linebacker coach for the great. Ohio state buckeyes. Great culture is going to be a head coach of before you know it. He's he's tremendous tremendous. He understands that he gets it on all levels or dimensions of it But i know you're you again you you want to know you wanna know what an whether. It's football baseball basketball whether it's wrestling boxing whether it's a lawyer whether it's a doctor whether it's a teacher going in a courtroom teacher going in the classroom and classrooms a bunch of kids that don't like to listen whatever it is. You'll find out whether or not to really a teacher when when the kids ain't listening drawn junk around the role can not to pull it together can teach be a teacher. Can a teacher behaved like a teacher. We already know they have a certificate because they put it up on war. We already know that they got good marks because they got through college but can they be a teacher. You know like. I said like football with the coaches. That's what the coaches want. Wanna find out that these kids that they get that could run that that forty and in a three three or three and change which is just unbelievable and they can pick up all that weight in the weight room but can they behave like a football player when the moment comes to behave like a football player. That's why. I put up my buddy al washington over there ohio state. So it's the same thing and you want to see what's in you wanna see what's in the house and we got a chance to see that with virgil altis. That he got stung. He got hurt a little. Betty you know and there was. There was something in the wells. He had something in inventory. You know and that's something for me. Well a chin fight is fighters mentality of fight as well. No panic stayed calm beyond his twenty. Three years kept it together. Didn't didn't panic. He had to temporarily at two had the goods the goods and.
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"virgil ortiz" Discussed on THE FIGHT with Teddy Atlas
"Going to be more of that but but you know there was saved from it because of that. I didn't go on. But that's my. That's my take on on great showtime show. One of the things you mentioned during that rant was about with regards to baseball and a no hitter. And i just want to take a minute to give a shout out and see if you happen to see this kid tyler. Gilbert for the diamondbacks made his professional baseball professional. Pitching debut is. I start ever and throws a no hitter. That's the way to come out. That's the wettest started to career right. I mean bow best part about it during cove it. He was like down on his luck bouncing around the minors doing electrical work with his dad. His dad was in the stands. Going crazy was the highlight of the show. Awesome story relations so awesome. That is a great story. That's why you never give up. Never give up dreams. Never give against san diego padres who are role in strong. So congratulations tyler gilbert. Let's get to the zone card on the undercard of the mean machine was in action against virgil ortiz. Who single handedly saving golden boy in my opinion but on the undercard we had the Alvarado twins rene felix felix gets the Tko stoppage to fifty of the first round against vows quiz. Would you think on that one. Now as you said this is on zone and the only reason i wanted to touch on the undercard because we could have went right to the main event but first of want to cover as much the weekend for the fight fans out there. So on the undercard you had felix alvarado world champion. He's thirty seven and two with thirty two knockouts at pretty good. He's a world champion and you had them. Fight allows minute replacement take was allows minute replacement. Believe it was but either way you had them fight israel vasquez now vaz's questions thirty four years old and he's ten five and two and he's lost five of his last six fights and out of those losses the only one that a one out of those fights only one that he did win was to a nine and twenty two fighter. I so the point. I'm making is. He doesn't belong in a frequent ring. And this is what bothers me. This is where you get injuries and god forbid fatalities way. You have mismatch people. And i've talked about this on other podcasts. Not that long ago. Ken where what are we have commissions for why we have commissions that quite often a paid their salaries by us the tax pays. Why do we have commissions if they can't commission properly if you can't know enough to say hey as as thirty four years old ten five and two five. Who's last guy. Pete was nine and twenty. Two shouldn't be fighting. Feel example rondo world champion. Thirty seven to thirty. Two knockouts shouldn't be happening. Sparks and lex box wreck. Has it wrong. He lost to the nine and twenty two. Miguel del via any any beat. Oh nine into louis quinta box. No you're right. He gave one hundred percent. Right is one of his wins was to a guy who has a one so listen the people getting the point out there were making. I mean how does this guy get in a ring with somebody as good as phil alvarado and what happens well. Do i have to tell you the rest. You don't like i said to you before you don't have to be the mason credit to know what's common he got knocked out in one round down one round. I mean again. This is where we get this when we get problems is where we get. Injuries is where we get people hurt. It's a tough enough. Sports inherently dangerous. But you don't need to be putting guys in to fight with top fighters when they don't belong in there. You don't need to do that. We gotta be better. And this is what i screamed about all those years on. Espn none of the reason why. I'm not qualified. But i was trying to protect the fighters helped sport. And you know the great my friend to great lady bird sugar used to say teddy. Boxing keeps giving himself so many black guys. They are now the cyclops and he that line with bert sugar. The late grade bird sugar. He he was he was right on the money. Right on the money. I mean like boxing has keeps shooting herself in the foot. I mean rarely. You'll put great fights on the great fans you guys will be there because you love to sport as i loved the sport but we don't love this part of it. We don't love when administrators twin executives screw up and administrators throat up and when the alphabet organizations corrupted and when commissions don't behave like commissions. We don't love that part of it. We don't because that part rules to support endangers sport cripples the sport hurts the fighters. So it hurts you guys too so i just had to say that. That's why brought that up. And then his brother has brother fought raja. Gutierrez ford gutierrez. I believe it was a trilogy. So let me give my breakdown of that fight because it was co feature it did did go twelve rounds and first of all. I want to give credit. I wanna give credit. Because i knocked the crap out of people when i think they should be knocked the crap out of and i i will hold them. Hi.
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"virgil ortiz" Discussed on THE FIGHT with Teddy Atlas
"Sorry to make sure that the people that drink coffee or take a red bull you know whatever whatever they do to stay awake that they're gonna somehow be put to sleep. He puts gary russell also on the undercard. What is a another put should asleep and again. I'm not not gary russell making a point here gary was. Who's a terrific fighter. He's a he's a high class fighter he is but he's not an exciting fighter. So you put on rigor de our ads. Gary russell oh my goodness i mean you put them both on the same night all like i said. That's i mean that's that's daily double and that's a daily double to you know really they. They don't have advertising with sam next. They should get it the they should go right out there really. I mean as monosso do wanting right. Listen to teddy okay and go out there and call make a phone call to sonics right now as they listen. We'd like to. We'd like to get some. We'd like to advertise our fights. We were exactly what you look for. Yeah we we take. We represent exactly exactly what you're looking for and your clientele the people that that buy your product where your guy where your guy really. We'd like to come on board they work. I think it'll work. I think it was worth a shot. And so what do they do. Put gary rose and listen. That turned out to be. I'm saying his straight faced. And i never wanna see anybody injured. Anybody caught ever but the two people were saved because there was an accidental head clash in a first round. Stopped that fight. I mean you know. I mean otherwise you know was more war.
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"virgil ortiz" Discussed on THE FIGHT with Teddy Atlas
"Was like you had no idea. You came here really prepared and unprepared for what you were going to face so that. So that's one of the places i really. I don't outrageous. And so that's one of the places i point blame. Of course. I already talked about the tv people that they put that style in there for the fans. They don't know what it's going to produce. That's gonna produce a snooze. You know and i just but having said all that can. I thought they were rounds. Where because the other guy because casimiro to champion was so unprepared so out of sorts out of sync out of rhythm that regard the had rounds where he did counter with a left hand. He did make a mess. He did catch them here in even though he only through like four and a half punches all night but you know and i thought that you can make an argument that rigging the al one. I know that's going to drive a lot of people crazy. But i'm at it with the way i look at it really deep. I'm not just looking at it where i. I wish this wasn't happening where i can't believe they put this on. I'd rather i watched like the movie. Heidi you know what i mean. I i was. I was like you know i'm looking at it in a very careful precise way. And which is that's how brought up. That's that's the world. I live in and i thought it will enough rounds where he could have eked out a draw. Maybe even been tiny bit ahead. But definitely i didn't take you. One was a split decision. He won on one judge's card. So i'm not arguing with that judge but one sixteen one twelve one seventeen one eleven other two judges that went to casimiro. I thought they were wrong again. I don't mind giving it to casimiro. But i thought it was closer. It was tara. Bowl was sustained but it was closer because what i just said because of what has a merrill didn't do more than because of what reagan de al did and i'll tell you i. I thought that. I just thought that with with that. Go with the bian. Closer as i say some that a lot of people probably going to look at an unfavorable way at the end of the day. I would say i understand not giving it to reagan. The al because he didn't earn it he didn't deserve it. I that's why i hesitate. I wanna i hope people understand that. But i'd say it again because i believe in what i'm saying. Because he lost he kind of lost a right to complain about a decision. You know not that he won it but it was close enough with. He can't he can't be that guy complaining because by behaving the way that fighting more to survive then to win for most of the night he didn't really earned the right tavist hand raised. So in that way. I understand casimiro getting the fight it and i understand the mentality. Thinking of a judge gave it to that way. I do have a judge said you know what i'm trying to charge it in a in a proper way in a professional way in an unbiased way Purely by the amount of punches landed and not landed. But i can't. it's close enough where i'm gonna. I can't give it to a guy who who performed his way didn't really try to win. I didn't sit down really more than thirty seconds in a fight. I try to win. i can't give it to him. So that's my that's my whole analysis And my very thorough really breakdown of all dimensions of what took place that night. And i add one other thing just to make sure the executives don't have a change of heart and try to hire me on top of that they who do they put on the undercard. They put a they put. They put gary russell. Now gary russell was an olympian. Gary russ who had a lot of amateur fight. Gary russell lost the title. Full title fight against lohman shackle years ago and lohman changle beat him handily but gary was. Who's a really good boxer. He is he's really good technical box. Good hand speed. Good legs good instincts. But he's safety i boxer. He's a guy that has the temperament we're talking about about. You know the sweet science about being real smart nothing wrong with it. But he doesn't make exciting fights. He wins he's efficient but he doesn't make exciting fights. So what do the people at showtime that guy woodson's name espinosa. Whoever that guy is over there getting paid all that money the head guy and whoever else is making these decisions who they think espinosa's really good friends with conor mcgregor. So what do they do. Conor mcgregor nickname for him was the weasel of. Oh well say that louis. Oh okay. I got ya. I got that says a lot. That says a lot when you call somebody a weasel that says a lot that says it all and that was right to his face on stage at a press conference. I think if someone calls you weasel at a press conference you're fighting you just have to fight even if you're going to get a beat agree you call me a weasel now you have to be. That's the bottom of the barrel. I agree with you. Can i mean like. I said there's no need for me to to try to explain the kind of person as for noses all of that some people think he is put it that way that does mean is that other than to just say he's a weasel a weasel all right so now what does he do to make sure that nobody that night will be awake because a couple of label know still. I was awake. I dragged to cappuccinos right. So i stayed awake but to make sure that non coffee drinkers. You know while also gonna be on the coffee..
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"virgil ortiz" Discussed on THE FIGHT with Teddy Atlas
"Yeah he the people that put him in at hide them for the night he got hired for the night right. The the executives hired them for the night. The promotes executives. They're supposed to know what they're getting and what it's going to mean to the audience so you know they're idiots stay. They deserve some of the blame. Some of the fans out there. You should write something to To them and say hey quit giving us these kind of fights. You know really. We're not gonna stay. Which if you give us these kind of fights you know we're not i remember one time on. Espn they didn't like it too much. But on the opening. I came on the opening sailors. Got to apologize right now for the fights will put on all. You had to hear that truck. Just imagine oh my goodness my goodness what was what was that old saying that one of the old timers on the street used to say teddy. Your could heard of mouse peon cotton as a good saying. That was kind of But i was telling the truth and you know what my rationale was wasn't to chase fans. Obviously we don't have fan. I'm not going to have a job. I'm going to get wasn't those to tell the fence of expect them and tell the people that were in charge to respect the fans. I was sending a shot. The bow respect the fans respect the sport respected brand and stop doing this garbage. And for the reasons you're doing to make friends with promote us. That's why they were doing it to favor certain promoters and take care of them and so it was my way of trying to correct a problem and it was also my way of being honest as i always am with the fans to let the fence. No i'm gonna tell you the truth even if it hurts me. I'm going to tell you the truth. And i'm going to help you run away if you bought away okay. But i'm going to hope that in return for me tell you the truth. You're gonna stay with me and you're gonna say you know what we're going to stay with the guy because he tells us the truth and then when he tells us. It's a damn good fight. Which i often told them. We're going to believe him. We're going to believe him so we'll take the good with the bed because of that. That was my rationale. That was my way of thinking it wasn't kamikaze was in to crash the plane into the you know into the ground just just to die no always doing it to to live better to live the right way. That's what i was doing it for so that other people could get the benefits of the risk. I was taking a little bit of risk was taken in that again. It might invoke change. That's why i was doing it. And that's why. I hope to fans keep coming here really i love you is i hope you keep coming if it means something to you and you keep common and give us give us a. I'm happy with what you give us. Now i am blessed. Iq but give us a million follows. Give us a million subscribers. Not give us a million subscribers like some of these other guys half give us. We're building towards it. We're building towards it. We're at close to two hundred thousand. We'll bone we. We have thirty. I love to say this one. We have thirty three million downloads. We have thirty three million downloads. I i don't really know where to download is but we got thirty. Three million of them in sounds pretty good. Pretty good so yeah. Getting back can listen. I thought now this might drive a few people crazy but again i'm going to stay consistent with what i believe in say not about what people wanna hear. I thought as bad as it was as much of a snooze fest as was i also blame casimiro. See there's a lot of blame to put out. Then i'm putting it out there. I'm put it where i'm put it out there. Baby casimiro and his people you know we did a nice interview with powerful pound number one right now would cough it last week and and you guys have been enjoying it and you've been watching it and the numbers have been real good and you could continue watching it. Obviously it's still up. There was a really good interview. Was very inciteful with with terence bud coffee and one of the things that i complimented. Oman was that he was always him and his people. His team is trainers. They will always prepared for the opponent now. I know that sounds like automatic thing but it's not always automatic. I told him. I said i've seen many over the years corn. Espn fights too many times where i would see a fighter. Show up in a ring completely. Unprepared for the guy was about the like no idea that. Oh my god this is i style like like. He wasn't ready for it like he didn't node was common. It's it's it's completely irresponsible and is inexcusable inexcusable. You show up for your work no matter what that work is and you're not prepared are you kidding. Me mean it'd be like being a a lawyer and you show up in court and you're not prepared for the case that you're about to represent are you kidding me you know your your turn your turn to your client say oh gee you hit somebody magin. You hit somebody. We're all three people drinking and you drink. Oh my goodness oh my goodness and annual as you and you attack signature drive in and you were looking at the podcast kennedy teddy. Really go to jail you go to jail go to jail. I don't like those two guys. You're going into cash right now. Okay so i mean it's it can't happen. It's not supposed to happen. So i told taryn store not interviewed that really. I'm impressed every time you fight it difficult style. You you are ready for exactly what you should be ready to handle that style. You know to to solve that puzzle. That problem and casimiro showed up as though he had no idea what he was gonna face. He had no like his people didn't prepare them like he fought like he had no idea he was headhunted. He wasn't cutting ringed out like he had no idea. This guy fights. Like i couldn't believe it. I was like i followed him around the ring. He's truck and punches at his headway can hit him. he's not going to the body. I mean if a guy moved you cut the ring down right. To the chest you stabilize him. You control him a little bit and you go to the body. Put water in the basement. As i would say when i was calling to fight and you take his you take the air out of his wheels. You know guys gonna use wheels. You go to the body. You take the air out of the wheels i everything was being trump to the head missing all over the place fallen to the side going into the ropes. I couldn't believe it..
THE FIGHT with Teddy Atlas
"virgil ortiz" Discussed on THE FIGHT with Teddy Atlas
"You know take the bat off of a good hit his hands you know and just dissolve disarm the guy does on the fighter design the the hitter as though you remove the bad from him and but now at forty he fights mortar survive that he does really to win unless he lands his shot. He now shout okay. He's going to win but he fights more. His mentality is more to survive i. I was impressed with his conditioning at forty his ability to use those legs that long i was i was. I mean it was born. Hell outta me. Don't get me wrong. But i was like. Wow this guy you know. He's quite a physical Phenomena that he can do this at forty years of age and moved as much. But i put the blame on some of the blame. I put it on the matchmakers executives. The overpaid executives had showtime over there. I do i because they're supposed to know i used to complain. And friday night fights with some of the bumps that we had. Yeah that's right. I called your bumps. I call them bumps. I caught him to their face. Bumps but at the time And we got rid of some of them We got rid of moving towards the end. We replaced it with some better but they were there destroying our sport destroyed our brand. Espn fighting night fights. Because they were putting on matches they knew nothing about the styles thousand fighter. What made a good fight. What made a bad fight. They knew nothing. And you have to know because about pleasing the fans about putting events on that are going to have action. That are going to be pleased. Offense not gonna be a cure for insomnia. You know what i mean. And that's obviously the the head guys get paid all that money. Alva showtime would. They thought people acted that suffered from insomnia and so they thought they were helping them it. Obviously they know nothing about boxing again. Too bad you know what. Facts are facts and i know. Most people say because they're allen for their meals they wanna keep their job they wanna they wanna sit on defense they want to. They want to be friends. Who want to get along to go along. Go along to get along. That's i understand. I do my problem. That's your problem that my problem over here. I my thing over here is to tell it as it is and those people either have to know something about that or hire someone who does know that when you when you put rigging the owl into your main event. You're not gonna get a good fight. You're not gonna get an exciting fight. You ward gotta get it what. It was in his prime. You're definitely not getting an at forty you not. It's a fact. I mean that's another place. I won't be working anytime soon over show. Obviously you know the good part about that. Always civilizing to every dog cloud. If you're well my agents phone. Bill will be kept low a. k. He won't be having a field all those calls from all those executives over there saying we get teddy over here to call fights nah. Nah we won't have to do that. But you know what. I'm calling for you guys for the fans and as long as you guys continue to want the truth and want me to do that. You know what. I'm your guy do it. I'll do it and And i'll do it in the hope that also people learn something because it hurts to sport when you put on fights that chasing fans instead of embracing fans and instead of calling for fans instead of bringing fans so. I do know for reason for those part of those reason i did it at. Espn for listen. That's why i'm not calling fights now. Does anyone out there. That hasn't figured it out by now. You know. I mean. That's why i'm not. They're calling fights anymore. Ed rings high because somebody complained about me saying that. Oh calling it is. It is and complained about me using a word that we're gonna talk about a little later in the program here so you guys keep your seatbelts. Baku guys you know because there's more bumpy road ahead you know for me it. Smooths but it's a little bumpy. So bumpy for some people they they hit the head you know all that was a bump teddy just two turnovers into a little bit of of war. there that. I didn't like that that that didn't feel good but Yeah used the word corruption. And we're talking about that a little later in the program. Right ken That's right. we'll talk about that. But i and again Somebody over there. Espn Told somebody over there. Espn guy told that guy that You know what. I want. Teddy there no more so. I'm not doing a fights anymore because that that word was uncomfortable. Why was it uncomfortable. Why why would something be uncomfortable if it wasn truth. Oh i think. I understand why because it was truth. Oh and you didn't want the truth coming out. Oh i wonder why. Oh but i digress. The fight was boring. But you know what. I give the devils. Do i regard the algebra. He was honest. He was honest when they interviewed him. Afterwards he withdrew gray. He was honest he just said. Hey this is what. I do does what i do this how i do it now. What he didn't tell you was when he was younger. He didn't do it like i said he didn't get on a bicycle he. He's sat down more. He did more funnier where it still wasn't thrilling. But it was very interesting very efficient. Where he'd make you miss banger. He moved a little bit move rally but he didn't run all over the ring. You know like yeah track shoes on. You know like who was doing the You know that. He was competing against bolt from jamaica. You know what i mean. He didn't do having having said all that about how good he was when he was younger when he was still undefeated. How surprised were you. When low marchenko just completely broke down. Dismantled wasn't surprised. Listen if i was. I would say yes because you know getting. We're going to tell the truth over here. And i'm not always right that one i i said he was gonna knock out. He was gonna knock out the out. He was too big and too young Lohman chaco a that was for me. That was the main part lohman. Shaikha was too big. I mean he just fought the other night at one. Eighteen against lohman chuckle. He fought at one thirty five or one thirty. Correct me. if i'm wrong. It was either way too. Lightweight your figured out in a minute for me. I appreciate that but either way he was way up in weight so he definitely was. He's out of his weight. And like i said lama chuckle was was damn good. He was also younger. And and beta and super feather. Yes well one thirty one hundred thirty junior high call junior light but they called super-feather. You know why they called super fellow. They want everything to look better like super. Oh when you say when you say what. I say junior junior. That's not as to remember when we had Jay williams on with stephen bradman his His trainer that we i asked him. Do you prefer junior. Middleweight or superwelter and the trainer immediately hit superwelter super welterweight super v and honest and of course of course the promoters and all the pr people on obviously the alphabet organizations. Stay they wanna put that forward a super as there's something special attached to it and no negative connotations as junior might be negative negative junior. I don't think it's out teddy atlas junior. I'm a atlas junior. So i don't mind call calling something junior. Okay am i. Son is teddy atlas to third and my grandson is teddy analysts. Fourth and god will be more to follow and they probably won't get jobs at showtime either. But it's okay. I'm pretty sure. That's gary yes. It is that doesn't make you the amazing kweskin over there can. Yeah you're right but again to finish up the analysis of this fight..
THE FIGHT with Teddy Atlas
"virgil ortiz" Discussed on THE FIGHT with Teddy Atlas
"All right welcome to the fight with teddy atlas presented by dynamic striking. I'm ken reid joined as always by boxing. Legend teddy atlas teddy. How you doing good. Ken how you you do ahead cut come on baba sleeping on the job. He's in la. We've got to get him to make a road trip. Come on full my leah jet and get them over there. I know the struggle israel. Well yeah i mean those has must be lined up they. They must be synchronized. See i don't even know who this is. This is is ken right out. You know yeah. It's a sad day over here. Teddy all the kids are in school first. Time in a year and a half. They're all officially gone even little one. Try not to contain your sadness. I try to try to contain. Try try try to control it will you. Because it saw it almost looks bubbly. I've never seen. I've never seen that this that is confused with jubilation so thanks. It's mixed emotions. I'm super happy to have a quiet house and not have to keep yelling at them to quiet down while record. But i'm also sad that they're not here anymore. See seats over time. Time moves on they move onto another chapter another chapter night Great journey of lightly out learning learning learning learning learning. You always have to keep learning always have to keep up you. Just hope to teach good in. Oh i know that is at home a good you know. Thank god. that's that's where it starts and people should always remember that that's where it's thoughts but obviously and i don't. They don't need me to tell him that people do that but sometimes maybe they forget a little bit and they they put it all on teachers but no the main teachers two main causes are taught at home and then of course the teachers take it from there. Yeah that's the truth. Well teddy big busy weekend of feis. No real big marquee fight so to speak but we do have a candidate for fight of the year casa mero riggan dow as the adage goals. Right that's the added for that one right that's the old adage was thinking that was as bad as he get. I mean if i could say one good thing it was rigged dow. He moves so well to get away. But where with counter-punches he would move away and then move away again. I was like i just can. He counted with the left hand. he he. he caught casimiro with some left hands. He did counter ran too much. And i don't like to use that word but he did. I mean it's one thing to move into box you know. And to navigate your way into to cleverly maneuver around the ring to usually legs that way. That's one thing but it's another thing just jump on a bike and say see a. Later and for a lot of parts he was doing that. That's not the old reagan. The hour we get the al even when he was young. I did a lot of his fight. First of all. I know regan the hour well because i knew him as an eighteen year old when he was first gold medal In in the olympics in sydney i called four olympics for nbc so the sydney two thousand was my first. And that's when he made the scene That's when rigging the hours. I was eighteen years old. He won a gold medal and he was the best have drivers saw. And that's quite a statement gun. Because i've seen a lot of real damn good averages including lohman chaco. I covered his two gold medal olympics. Too and he was great he was great but i think this guy was the best i ever seen. He wasted nothing. Even as an amateur allergy. Use opposed to waste punches. I mean they just use supposed to throw punches and he didn't waste he's still at that temperament as a counterpunch as a body puncher as a great defensive fighter you know as being controlled being patient and he made it work in the average sight easy to do and he was a tremendous punch so Especially with that left hand so and then he won the next olympics. He won a gold medal in athens in two thousand four. That was my second olympics So i he. Lego said he was the best average i ever seen and when he turned pro he was on. Espn friday night fights to winnow the fights when i was calling all the fights then and he was he was in. I don't know how many of his early fights but a good amount of them on our air. So i was very familiar with him and he was never exciting. He was always effective and efficient. Never but he was tremendous he was as good a pure body puncher and pure counterpuncher and great defensive fighter in that package and that combination you ever going to see and with power he really was like i said he wasted nothing and he was just pure efficiency you know he was like a green energy and he he was never exciting but if you are an affection out of sport you enjoy them. You're kinda like if you go to the to the baseball stadium and you enjoy really good pitching if you if you like the whole months then. Obviously you're going to get bored and if you like home months with rigging obviously you're going to you know you're in the wrong place. You bought a ticket to the volume fight but if you appreciate the finesse. Sport the sophistication of sport. The sweet science of sport the intricacies of the sport you appreciated hem when he was when he was younger You know he's forty years old now but you appreciate him that he was able to do those things at the level that he did it just like you appreciated pitch that get hit. The corners change speeds..
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"virgil ortiz" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"I mean he's shown as his fights have gone a little bit longer. Fifth sixth rounds. He's been just as strong justice. Powerful just as tough but kavalyauskas the type of guy that i mean look. He took turns crawford into the eighth round of that fight on. Say nine ninety nine around of that fight. He's he's a tough guy. If you can go nine rows turns crawford you should be able to go nine rounds of virgil ortiz. He dropped crawford. Hurt crawford didn't call that a game plan that fight like no no. No no no see. This is the thing. Kvass fought a patient fight. he wasn't throwing the punches. You normally throws. He wasn't aggressive because he he he gave a different. Look to crawford crawford was was you know turned off or switched off by that but then of course he turned it on once. He got rock. That's what champions do kavalyauskas tricky fighter. I mean he's a strong experience. Fighter has timing the number one thing with fighters that are strong and and our experienced like like. I've lost this timing. He has the power he has strengthened experienced two-time olympian..
Tha Boxing Voice
"virgil ortiz" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice
"Shit skype. Told them like no we out on you know. No no double in yoda that cab. Las i really get a chance to talk about that. Cadillacs virgil ortiz. Which i think is a great fight. People keep sleeping on cava las man. I know we got our jokes. You know what i mean. Green eggs and ham meaning But listen the mark crowd lobster crab. It's like it's a lot of join. What is to listen. What is not coming joke. Though is he's taken on virgil ortiz. And that is a great fight for virgil. Because virgil guests the see. Virgil this coming in at the level like this would be like a great opportunity for virgil and if but is not gonna get the opportunity. He's got to fight porter. That's one thing but say he doesn't get the opportunity reporter fight porter because this is boxing. If virgil beats cava. Las vegas virgil and bud. Fight makes sense. I don't know how golden boy would put that together But i would think that. Top ranking golden boy would have mutually vested interests since. Pbc got so much going on at welterweight. I've been golden boy in and Top rate that fight because urgel even better test common opponent. I love to fight all the way around and i got kavalyauskas winning that believe it or not. I lost his winning. That one. got cav alaska's beating. Virgil i do. Wow well hunts not good. That's good i remember. You made your name for yourself like that. Picking up said i believe bradley kidding me a woman can do. You can do it. You know. i don't know the kavalyauskas short being when he didn't show me enough in the coffered fi. And he definitely you know miquel. Zukowski ain't enough to show me. Is he like you know is i. Don't know wow virgil listen. I'm going by degrees of separation. And i know it's not absolute science but cab office came out of there with a fought but crawford in the he went on the fight. Zeus key right now. Zukowski definitely you know on a level of but virgil ida had a good show against zeus zeus. You would have been a good opponent from birds with my question is more. So what has virgil done. Other than the power. I don't get drunk off power. That's what i'm saying. Like y'all might be going with virgil because everybody's gonna call and say the power the power the power. I don't get drunk off a power. So virgil year. He's got the power. I haven't seen enough. Boxing and i don't think he's been sharpened enough. Get enough competition. I mean i could probably agree with the last statement you know. He hasn't been sharpened enough against high level competition but the boxing is air champion. He's shown you the boxy showing you his ability to be able to you know time is shot and shoot at the right times and as defense is pretty good. I mean he's impressed me. He's impressed me. I do agree that We haven't seen him with the upper echelon. That could show us what he's made out of. But how does he get to that upper. Echelon you know who's office kavaliauskas. And i think the kavaliauskas is going to be on the chopping block chain and all power to egypt. Not saying anything. I'm not going to say. This is going to be easy. Breezy fight but this is virgils like overwhelming aggression. And the way that he puts out that aggression he's not sloppy. It's just to me. It's a it's something that very few fighters can do. You know you got a lot of fighters like we spoke about margarito and the type of mar fighter. Margarita was his ability to give you a crash and good placement on his punches. In a virgil gives me that. But it's just with him is more veracity virgils. Really trying to take you out. He has good killer. I think that I think he's ready now for that. Upper echelon and we're gonna see this in the kavaliauskas fight you'll see mark. My words clinton that energy and trying to stop kavaliauskas might be his downfall. That might be the factor. Right did he plays. he's gonna play into it that's his style to. That's his style to Maybe you're right in a sense that of versus going to have to find a way to box. You know he's not gonna go to head on bull straight with the eagles. I think his team's gonna be a little smarter about that. So you're you're you might be right about that Stock going to be something that he's gonna wanna go in there and steam room. Oh what was that your bands in the back call back alive to chicago town. Hey daddy this adult don't make you the quick. It's steve steve. Emmy we though we hear you champ loud and clear. Do me just impatient. I'll the creek swarm onto the field. Good morning i like Like how i mean broke it down. i'm not picking mean machine but you know this'll good you know on his finally woken up. Finally get a good fight from there. I don't know what to say as far as You guys had a great gust man shut off the brand from houston bringing in these guests. Really been doing a great job for you guys. I'm just this is finally a good five a good fight this weekend and I don't really have much to add already. What was said Just looking forward to the fight who you picking.