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E. x. t. august twenty first two thousand nineteen on this day in nineteen eleven. A man stole a painting and cemented. It's cultural legacy but what's remarkable about the heist is not the criminals lack of experience or the paintings incredible fame but how astonishingly easy it was for vincenzo perrugia to steal the mona lisa welcome to today in true crime podcast original everyday we day we tell a timely story from true crime history then analyze the historical impact of that day's events. I'm vanessa richardson and today i'm diving into the heist that rocketed the mona lisa to international fame. How did a former liuw worker steal. The museums ziems most valuable painting in a one man operation. Let's go back to paris on the morning of the theft august twenty first now one thousand nine hundred eleven around six a._m. Vincenzo harija made his way through the cobbled streets of paris fast but not too fast underneath his labors smock and his com veneer he hit a sense of purpose a sense of patriotism it was time to take back with the frenchman had stolen and return it to italy where it belonged perrugia had contemplated the day's mission for months. He planned every step of his rise from a petty crime to grand larceny down to the day of the week monday. The louvre museum was closed on mondays but just just because it was closed didn't mean it wasn't brimming with people workers milled in and out along the rue de rivoli. The front gate of the world's greatest art museum was wide open. Just as peru i expected he walked right in he knew who they would be only ten guards on duty that day and if he was lucky none in the ceylon kyw even if there were guards cards none would spare a thought at the arrival of one of their glass workers for years perrugia had made himself a common site at the louvre move installing flawless glass covers in the frames of famous paintings including the mona lisa perrugia still recalled the first time he held the mona lisa painted on wood. It's eighteen pounds. Were no match for for the weight of the emotions at drew out of him joy intrigue and rapture ludger kanda. Could he ever create something so incredible even if he couldn't sharing nationality with its painter leonardo davinci brought him pride a pride. That was the birthright of all italians. Perrugia took the quickest route through the liuw blending in with museum workers. If anyone asked he was here to inspect the glass not long after seven thirty a m he entered the ceylon kallay the square room where she lived the gallery was empty but there wasn't time for admiration he quickly it lifted the mona lisa from its four small wall hooks. It was nearly two hundred pounds but perrugia was prepared to lift the weight. He was the one who had installed the frame. After all no one gave him a second glance as he carried the painting out of the gallery and into a small empty stairwell perrugia new all the private spaces hiding between the sweeping galleries and this one doubled as way out in the privacy of the stairwell he removed the glass covering the mona lisa discarding her frame like a lover's dress he wrapped the painting and a white sheet and with his lightened load hurry down the stairs. Perrugia reached the door. It was locked. He was trapped in a stairwell with a stolen painting. This was not in the plan undeterred. Perrugia considered the doorknob like everything in the louvre. He knew its inner workings. He sat down the painting and began to unscrew the knob. The knob plopped off. He was out but before perrugia could push open the door. Someone called out his name name. Perrugia turned it was his old friend so vei one of the loaves plumbers thinking quickly perrugia pocketed the doorknob bob and greeted survey. Could he believe one of the idiot. Guards broke the door so they offered to help fix it. He had tools on him mm-hmm. The men made casual small talk each word weighing on perrugia. He prayed his friend wouldn't notice the bulging doorknob in his pocket or the painting hidden under the sheet so vague took his time finally so vay opened opened the door and perrugia promised they'd catch up soon carrying the painting perrugia sped out of the liuw. No one was guarding the doors so he left without being questioned or even noticed. Perrugia threw away the doorknob in an alley and fled at the scene. It was a forty minute walk home if he was fast perrugia took cobblestones sidestreets remaining as inconspicuous is possible despite the cultural treasure he was smuggling. Finally he arrived at his modest. One room flat got there. He hid the mona lisa under the stove. Perrugia didn't need to look at the painting. He was intimately familiar here with the work. Her mysterious is her secretive smirk. Humanity peeking through the web of distinctive cracks in centuries old old oil paint davinci's masterwork was the intrigue of the art world it belonged to italy and it was almost home up next historical analysis of the heist now back to the story despite it being their most valuable piece of art it would take the loop security over a day to notice the mona lisa had been stolen. They'd only begin searching on august twenty second nineteen eleven after a particularly obstreperous art student made a fuss. One hundred and twenty officers and sixty detectives swarmed the scene. The liuw shut down for a full week week but authorities turned up only a soul fingerprint and a doorknob. Both deemed frankly useless. Authorities honed in none of variety of suspects including one pablo picasso for two years. No one would see the mona lisa and yet everyone would see the mona lisa police circulated photos of the painting and the news of the theft of the lose most valuable painting made international international headlines copies of the portrait spread like gossip. Liuw patrons waited in line to see the empty space where she used. I used to hang within a year. The mona lisa skyrocketed immortality though vincenzo peru's theft did not bring the painting home to italy permanently it made the mona lisa the most famous painting in history <music> after vincenzo peruta stole the mona lisa on august twenty first nineteen eleven it remained in his apartment unframed and unprotected for the next two years on the east side of paris. It was by no means a nice neighborhood. Some sources allege that perrugia briefly had a fellow italian ex patriot. Keep the painting for him again in a simple apartment. Supposedly perrugia gave the painting to his friend because he was worried the wintertime moisture in his unheeded apartment would damage the would it was a failure to plan dan on peru's part but he wasn't the only failure in this case perrugia had a history of petty crime and the french authorities had his his fingerprints on file. Their sole piece of evidence was a clear fingerprints lifted from the abandoned frame. It should have been a simple solution but french police protocol at the time dictated that only right hand fingerprints were taken from captured criminals and the print recovered covered the scene of the mona. Lisa heist was from a left hand the sole piece of evidence and also oh the only piece needed to solve the crime was useless. Luckily perrugia an inexperienced criminal eventually came him forward with the painting in november of nineteen thirteen. He wrote to alfred oh jerry and international art dealer based in florence. He said he had the mona lisa desired to return it to italy and would exchange it for a reward. He signed the letter leeann chard hoping jerry would get the obvious reference jerry spoke with giovanni poggi director of florence's famed uffizi league gallery poggi thought it was worth entertaining the mysterious leonardo. If it was a forgery they'd quickly figure it out and on the off off chance it was the real lodger kanda it was worth a shot so that december vincenzo perrugia hid the painting waiting in the false bottom of his trunk and boarded a train to florence mona lisa road third class in florence perrugia asia still using his alias leonardo checked into a hotel and left the mona lisa there while he met with jerry jerry agreed to the pay perrugia five hundred thousand lire nearly one hundred twenty thousand dollars today as a reward or more accurately a ransom the next day jerry introduced perrugia to poedji and perrugia introduced them both to the mona lisa which which he kept in his trunk wrapped in red satin and hidden under art supplies it was the real painting identified by the distinctive crack lure the web of cracks that span across the painting as a result of aging peru's painting matched old photographs of the mona lisa like a fingerprint poedji and jerry promptly turned leonoard in despite his noble intentions vincenzo perrugia was tried as a criminal and though his fellow italians cheered his nationalism awesome he was convicted of theft and sentenced to a year and fifteen days in prison. However perrugia did did get his wish for about two weeks. The mona lisa was displayed in the fitness gallery. It was then returned to the liuw where it resides take this day but the saga wasn't over yet twenty years later american journalist i karl decker published a story in the saturday evening post claiming he'd spoken to the real mastermind behind the mona lisa heist one eduardo warto dave all fear no the story rested on the idea that perrugia an immigrant laborer described by historian donald sassoon as almost almost illiterate could not have pulled off this incredible heist alone decker reported that volcano was a con man who'd concocted a master scheme to defraud six american millionaires by selling the mona lisa forgeries to legitimize the con- he hired perrugia russia to steal the real mona lisa according to the story perrugia gave welfare no the real mona lisa but stole it back two years years later when he decided it belonged in italy while this makes for a fun story about defrauding the rich and immoral none of alfio knows forgeries injuries have ever come to light yet. The conspiracy theory lives on circling pop culture year after year a tale of con artists tests and a criminal spiderweb matches the profile of the world's most famous painting a tale of lax security and a lone patriot it does not but the truth is sometimes crime is easy. Sometimes criminals aren't masterminds and sometimes all it takes is the confidence to walk into the front door of the liuw like it or not on august twenty first nineteen eleven spend an uneducated immigrant single handedly changed the landscape of the art world for more information on the mona lisa heist and the painting itself check out the the episodes of unexplained mysteries on the mona lisa. I'm vanessa richardson today. In true crime is a podcast original. You can find more for episodes of today and true crime and all other podcast originals for free on spotify not only to spotify already have all of your favorite music but vow spotify is making it easy for you. 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Margaret Thatcher

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Margaret Thatcher

"On november twenty second nineteen ninety the prime minister of great britain margaret thatcher stood stood before the british parliament to deliver one final speech thatcher a controversial figure who's hard line conservative politics had either led britain written prosperity or ruined. Its economy depending on who you asked had just been voted out of office in this final speech. She orated a summation of her time. As prime minister claiming that her policies had introduced unprecedented prosperity before lambasting more than a few of for political opponents as she began to wrap up the way to the moment really began to set in among the gathered representatives her allies and opponents alike new that the parliamentary chamber would likely never see someone like margaret thatcher lead it again. She concluded her speech to resounding applause laws. Though many in attendance were clapping because she was leaving not in support of her words. This moment was the climax of margaret thatcher's power our how she got there is a story of determination savvy and commitment to ideals no matter the personal cost hi. I'm vanessa richardson in. I'm corduroy. Welcome to historical figures apar- cast original every other wednesday we discussed the different persons lasting historical impact unique unique personality and impression on the world around them are audio biographies cover big lives but we like to focus on little known facts today. We're discussing discussing margaret. Thatcher england's first female prime minister known to both supporters and detractors as the iron lady thatcher who was england's p._m. From nineteen seventy nine to nineteen ninety and was hugely influential in england's transition into a modern economic power thatcher's thatcher's conservative policies and her commitment to seeing them through transformed britain but according to some it also irrevocably destroyed the way the of life for most of the working class but we're not here to say whether thatcher was good or bad for britain rather we're going to look into how she rose from her small roots up up through the ranks of the male dominated british political scene and became one of the most powerful and controversial figures of the late twentieth century margaret thatcher was born margaret roberts on october thirteenth nineteen nineteen twenty five in a small town called grantham grantham had its own historical significance long before margaret came into the world a number of prominent imminent figures including physicist isaac newton and political theorist thomas paine had lived in the historic town grantham was also the birthplace of edith smith the united kingdom's first female police officer so you could say there was something of a legacy for pioneering women in grantham. Margaret's parents maintained a modest hottest lifestyle. Her mother and father beatrice and alfred were hard working methodists who lived in the small flat above the shop. They owned they both sought to instill instill the value of hard work and margaret and had her working in the shop as soon as she was old enough to handle a broom. Her father was particularly instrumental informing margaret's. It's worldview around the family dinner table. He would exclusively discuss politics and philosophy without any room for gossip or more trivial matters alfred a staunch conservative engaged in politics because he was resentful of the left leaning policies of the other local politicians who he saws interfering with the livelihood of business owners like himself true to his character. He didn't just speak out against policies. He disagreed with he ran for office office so that he could work to enact change alfred was also a methodist preacher local councillor alderman and eventually served as the town mayor in doing doing so he exposed margaret to the power of the political system and instilled in her the firm conservative belief that the government should not interfere with those trying into independently succeed as she grew up margaret came to model herself after her father even going so far as to devote her focus in school to more more male dominated subjects she had a knack for science and chemistry and earned distinction from her high school when she graduated in nineteen forty two at the age of seventeen her final report from the school was prophetic. Margaret is ambitious and deserves to do well and she took that to heart immediately set her sights on a lofty goal to attend england's prestigious oxford college. Margaret missed doubt on a scholarship which prompted her father to offer to pay her tuition. That's interesting given that much of margaret's political philosophy would stress the independence of individuals individuals. Perhaps she knew that accepting that help from her father would open the doors for her own political ambitions regardless margaret enrolled at oxford in nineteen forty thirty three to study chemistry. Margaret was by all accounts a decent student but she really excelled in her extracurricular activities namely. The oxford conservative association margaret came to lead this organization during her time at school becoming the second woman ever to do so the conservative association was was a prestigious club and its members often hobnobbed with the tory elite before we go any further we should do a quick rundown of the british political system. There are two houses in the british parliament lords and commons. The house of lords is filled by appointment whereas whereas commons is an elected body commons is generally where most legislation is debated there six hundred fifty elected members of parliament or m._p.'s. He's in commons. An election must be held every five years but a prime minister can call an election whenever they want. If your political party has the most seats in comments congratulations you're running the country. There are two major political parties in britain the left-wing labour party and the right wing conservative party more commonly known as the tories humorously. The name came from an old irish in salt meaning criminal. We'll let you draw your own conclusions about that. Each political critical party has its own leadership decided internally by their n._p.'s. If that party takes the majority in commons the leader becomes prime minister mr but at the party loses power the former prime minister still retains their leadership status within the party unless they resign or voted out on the other hand a sitting prime ministers own party may turn on them and remove them from power via a vote of no confidence while the position of prime minister has no term limits like an american presidency does the to check system of both party and population approval helps. Keep the position in check while nonconsecutive consecutive prime minister terms are possible. They are rare. The lack of term limits means that someone only leaves the position of prime minister if they are voted out generally generally the party's avoid putting someone fourth for the position who had already been voted out the one other main element worth noting is that each department of government like education education and health has shadow representatives which sadly isn't quite as cool as it sounds. It has a similar function to minority leadership in the u._s. Senate as in a group of representatives from the non-controlling party who are there to consult on policy while not having much power to influence. It would sort of be like if the the u._s. Secretary of state had another secretary of state sitting around and telling them they were doing everything wrong without really executing any policy. This was the system. I'm in which margaret thatcher would go on to make her mark. Margaret graduated from oxford in one thousand nine hundred forty seven with a degree in chemistry. We and immediately found work as a research chemist. She worked on projects such as improving the taste of certain screams that may sound like a dream job but but margaret wasn't happy with the work where her annual salary was fifty pounds less than her male counterparts and she was often promised promotions that never happened happened margaret new by then that are real passion was politics after working her oxford connections in the tories she was named the conservative candidate for the parliamentary seat representing the town of dartford in the nineteen fifty election. It was almost mathematically impossible that she would win. The tory leadership leadership weren't exactly setting up to fail but she was young and untested dartford was a historically labor district so the tory leadership wasn't risking losing anything by nominating margaret there plus she could learn how to work in politics at a ground level as she prepared for her first election margaret experienced -perienced one more personal milestone she met denis thatcher up perfect gentleman who was rich quiet and polite as denis. Dennis and margaret commenced their courtship. She was soundly defeated. In consecutive elections called in february nineteen fifty and october nineteen fifty one none despite the loss margaret made a name for herself. The media found her fascinating as both the youngest conservative candidate and a woman in politics she she lost but she also gained about six thousand voters that had supported labor in the last elections. After her second loss in dartford she married dennis in december nineteen fifty one and officially became margaret thatcher weil denis and margaret by all accounts cared for each other deeply their marriage also oh had more practical advantages dennis was wealthy and connected. He routinely interacted with england's business elite. Being dennis's wife gave margaret margaret certain air of respectability that she previously didn't have as a woman from humble town after marrying dennis margaret quitter job as a chemist in pursuit sued politics full-time enrolling in law school in nineteen fifty two and becoming a certified barrister. That's u._k. Term for a lawyer in december nineteen. I'm fifty three. She specialized in tax law which gave her the expertise to argue about economics on a national level towards the end of margaret's legal education. She also gave birth to twins mark and carol in august nineteen fifty. Three one popular or historical joke is that margaret had the twins on purpose a boy and a girl born at once for maximum efficiency joke or not efficiency was the doctrine in the thatcher household. Margaret had her career to worry about and had little interest in slowing down her ambitions for her new children dennis. Meanwhile you had a successful paint manufacturing business that kept him busy. Mark and carol were in the hands of nannies for most of their infancy and margaret and denis shuttled him off have to boarding school as soon as they could margaret's focus on her career was somewhat revolutionary for the time and she was outspoken about her beliefs that women should pursue sued the highest callings they could however she was always reluctant to frame herself as a role model. She knew the kind of person she needed to be if she wanted to succeed and she also knew that not. Everyone was cut out for that kind of life. She's quoted as saying it would be extremely difficult for a woman to make it to the top but with dennis's money and her growing reputation among the tories margaret was able to dedicate the next five years to lobbying for a better seat she might have a good chance of swinging a win and making it into parliament. Her persistence finally paid off in july nineteen fifty eight margaret was named the tory nominee for finchley officially was a london suburb that was a model for the england margaret envisioned rich full of new money and independently run business finchley was seen as a safe conservative seat but she still ran up the numbers winning four thousand more or votes than our party's predecessor in october nineteen fifty nine through hard work some lucky circumstances and an incredible determination margaret thatcher had finally been elected to parliament. She would be findlay's representative for over thirty years until nineteen ninety her political. 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Wherever you listen to podcasts for a free month trial go to stitcher premium dot com slash podcast and use promo code podcast that stitcher premium dot com slash podcast and use promo code podcast now back to the story in nineteen fifty nine thirty three year old margaret. Thatcher began her first term as a member of parliament as a backbencher or an m._p. Without an office in the conservative party under prime minister harold harold macmillan margaret joined parliament at a particularly turbulent time in britain's history. The british economy was flailing. Britain was known then as the sick man of europe after world war two the country's g._d._p. Had stagnated only growing about point seven percent a year with around seven percent inflation the labor party had held power for the bulk of the postwar years and most of their programs at that time aimed at relieving the country's ails. Ails industries were nationalized. The national health service was established and labor unions were favored in order to keep the working class employed by the end of the nineteen fifties. Though unemployment was climbing and the labor government's attempts at keeping the money flowing in the workforce strong were faltering this. This was one of the factors that led to the conservative victory in nineteen fifty nine and put margaret into parliament. She was scheduled to speak in front of parliamentary a few months after her appointment on february fifth nineteen sixty margaret introduced a bill to restrict the power of labor unions by forcing them to allow press said their meetings in doing so the government would have a better idea of what the unions were planning. Her speech was a template for the rest of her political career earlier. She was poised in command of the issues but also strict demanding and completely hostile to her opponent which in this case were or the unions. The reaction in the house of commons was positive charlie panel a labor m._p. Who opposed the bill still noted specifically margaret's quote rather beautiful maiden speech and tory m p w f deedes praised margaret's courage in laying hands on such a bill even those those who are against margaret on the issue respected her goal for presenting it as her first act in parliament. The press were equally enthused to quote the sunday dispatch batch shortly after her speech fame and margaret thatcher made friends prime minister macmillan assigned margaret the parliamentary elementary secretary to the minister of pensions and insurance a low position that was traditionally reserved for women representatives. The job wasn't glamorous but margaret margaret took it as an opportunity she continued to learn about the inner workings of government and how spending was allocated however in nineteen sixty four power swung back to the labor party. There hadn't been much movement on the economic front and apparently the voters were more inclined to see labour. Try out some new solutions. Sion's margaret retained her seat in finchley but she wouldn't be able to spearhead legislation while labor was in power but just because she was now in the opposition didn't didn't mean that her life was any less busy at this same time. Dennis suffered a nervous breakdown. Dennis was fifty years old and felt responsible responsible for keeping both margaret and his family in good financial straights a pressure that ended up too much for him. He essentially disappeared to south africa for two to months to recuperate leaving margaret to handle her precarious political position on her own. Well dennis never officially said that margaret's career and the sudden change it took was responsible for his breakdown. Margaret's daughter carol feels that dennis dealt with the stresses of politics far worse than margaret ever did he was exhausted but according to carol he didn't like every aspect of being married to a politician. Dennis's sudden departure took a toll on margaret who began to feel very isolated and fearful. She was a member of a political party that was out of power and now her husband had seemingly left her. It was a stressful time. Dennis eventually returned from south africa sold is business and accepted cushy position on the board of directors of an oil and chemical company. There was guaranteed to keep his family in a good financial position with dennis back and in good standing margaret was able to refocus on her career career she served in six different shadow posts over the next six years working in treasury affairs housing and land fuel and power transport transport and education. This was actually an opportunity in disguise. These shadow posts exposed margaret several levels of national government which was able to learn about without the added pressure of making decisions since the tories were the minority. They didn't have any power to control policies. They could only protest them and margaret use this time to get very very good at protesting. She wasn't afraid to pick a fight with anyone who opposed her from either party. This fascinated many in the house of commons who were used to members toeing the party line. Margaret gained a reputation tation for being tough determined and well a little mean whether that reputation is embroiled in sexism or not is up for debate. The tory leader edward heath was considered an affable in diplomatic figure which put him constantly at odds with margaret's fiery determination though they were members of the same party. He made no secret of his distaste for her. He dragged his feet on any promotion. She demanded worrying that the higher shiro's arose the harder it would be to kick her out when she became too much to deal with heath and the tories retook the power after an election in june nineteen seventy wendy by then it was seen as regressive to have an all-male cabinet and despite heath's misgivings about margaret. He begrudgingly made her his secretary secretary of education. This was seen as a cabinet position that was the most feminine and oddly despite her small government leanings margaret regularly early wanted more money for education most of margaret's education policy stuck to those established by the labor government mostly due to public opinion favouring favoring labor strategy on one of the few occasions where she bucked the conventional wisdom of the department. She became embroiled in her first controversy wall. She sought more money for education. As a whole margaret also attempted to be thrifty with government spending she proposed ending a program that provided free the milk to schoolchildren after learning she could save eight million pounds by doing so shockingly. This was not a popular idea. The backlash was swift and immediate the british press dubbed her the most unpopular woman in britain and the very catchy mrs thatcher the milk snatcher ouch it definitely painted her and supremely negative light. Prime minister heath almost fired her over it. Margaret was so distraught by the public backlash that dentist suggested she cut her losses and quit politics altogether but she toughened up and later blamed her staff for not warning her of the possible backlash. The whole debacle seemed to vindicate heath who assumed the scandal would be enough to curb margaret's career margaret not willing to bend kept her head down and worked quietly as education secretary during the following years edward heath story government went weathered its own series of political tax. There was a devastating miners strike in one thousand nine hundred seventy. Two and wages were in such danger of sinking that many businesses businesses started operating only three days a week so that wages didn't bankrupt them. Heath eventually caved to the miners demands and the unions pushed for higher and higher wages driving inflation up to ten percent by nineteen seventy four. It seemed like he was over. A barrel. Margaret publicly stood by the prime minister and the party although she spoke harshly against heath's concessions in private heath finally called an election in nineteen seventy four and the tories were soundly defeated while margaret retained her seat. The tories were back to being the opposition party. Heath was offered the chance to step down from his position but he defied the rest of the party and continued to serve as conservative leader. The stage was set for an ultimatum and in february nineteen seventy five the tories made their move and called a challenge to try and vote heath out as tory party leader margaret sided sided with the rest of the party against heath and pinned her hopes on a friend sir keith joseph the perspective heir apparent to heath's position. However joseph removed himself from contention almost immediately after the challenge was called during a very public speech he said quote a high and and rising proportion of children are being born to mothers least fitted to bring children into the world. Some are of low intelligence most of low educational occasional attainment. They are unlikely to be able to give children the stable emotional background the consistent combination of love and firmness in other words. He called poor people stupid and evil. It didn't go over. Well and joseph quickly stepped down in his place. He suggested has to the tories vote for margaret. In the first vote of the leadership challenge margaret thatcher beat edward heath one thirty two one nineteen while margaret technically needed at least fifteen percent majority to win the leadership heath saw the writing on the wall and step down just like dat hat. Margaret thatcher was the leader of the conservative party margaret had always been a talented speaker as she prepared to accept the position she noted the monumental pressure that she knew was about to be pleased on her shoulders. Welder <unk> abilities away as i am to the door of number ten five on painting inside to pull bill the talk and prompt within the people of place in me and the thing in which i believe as sudden as her ascension to leadership was it wasn't without its drawbacks. The prevailing wisdom is that margaret only one because heath so despised in the party not because she was popular margaret had our work cut out for her but she relished the challenge. She began working with t._v. Producers to hone and cultivate her image she spoke out publicly and often against the soviet union who in response ran a newspaper article article dubbing her the iron lady a nickname that she adored and immediately adopted. It's definitely a better name than milk snatcher. In nineteen seventy eight a series of labor unions led strikes in a period later referred to as the winter of discontent during the strike sanitation public safety and ambulance work ceased and the labor government were just as over a barrel as prime minister. He had been a few years ago. Somehow unemployment was rising inflation was climbing and wages were dormant. It was a mess and the people of the u._k. Demanded mandat a solution margaret pressure colleagues to call an election during the campaign margaret attack labour party's performance in promise the usual tori platforms of free enterprise tax cuts and spending decreases. Here's some contemporary reporting including a quote from margaret commotion went on for most of the day with conservative leader margaret thatcher's leading the attack on mr callaghan and his labor government policies due to tell the two minutes dog offenses and undermine public confidence in the law uh failure of politics but which failed to debate didn't really sway anyone you want. The legislators were committed to their positions long before the vote was taken and as expected mr callaghan lost will now resign a name a date for a general election they can london labour finally conceded and held an election in one thousand nine hundred seventy nine which the tories soundly one margaret britt thatcher has the leader of the party became prime minister margaret took office on may fourth of that year and in her first speech as prime minister promised missed quote to replace discord with harmony error with truth doubt with faith and despair with hope through a combination of her own dogmatic work ethic per dedication to conservatism and some serious missteps by predecessors on both sides of the aisle margaret thatcher had become the first female prime minister of great britain at the age of fifty three within her first few months. She implemented a flagship policy any of her premiership the right to buy council houses. Essentially she enacted a law that gave five million tenants of government sponsored council homes the ability to buy out the homes from the government council homes were the british equivalent of public housing and margaret's legislation gave low income citizens the the chance to become homeowners at a reduced price while also reducing government overhead this was at the time a widely popular policy as as well as reflecting an element of the tory dream. Anyone who wanted to own house should be able to own one there were drawbacks but she did make affordable housing available margaret also quickly raised taxes on goods and services attempting to bring in more more revenue for the government so they could lower income taxes and get a handle on inflation and interest rates however the short term response was abysmal abysmal on employment climbed which was exacerbated by margaret allowing several struggling industries to fold rather than bailing them out as their predecessors right assessors had she saw england as a free market state and that meant survival of the fittest and industry with no regard for the welfare of the workers. The tories did not take this development very well. Margaret had campaigned on promises of saving the economy and within a few months it was cratering worse than it it had under labor. Margaret approval rating dropped to twenty three percent the lowest of any p._m. Up to that point pressure was on to renege on her policies as has unemployment climbed three hundred sixty four economists banded together to write a letter to the times of london promising that these extreme policies were going going to quote threaten england's social and political stability but margaret thatcher was defiant at the tory party conference in nineteen eighty. She made it clear with one of her. Most famous remarks you turn if you want to the lady's not for turning believing in her policies she would stay the course we'll explore the defining years of margaret thatcher's political career after this now back to the story as she was settling into her first term as britain's prime minister and contending with a turbulent economy margaret thatcher faced her first real test of leadership on april thirtieth nineteen eighty terrorists from the group known as the arabs of say storm the iranian embassy in london and took the staff there hostage. The terrorists held the hostages for six days. Thatcher ordered a team of s._a._s. Commandos commandos to deal with the gunman in the first ever operation that the s._a._s. carried out on british soil after breaching the embassy with explosives. The s._a._s. quickly regained control of the situation. Five of the six gunmen were killed in the raid. It was for the most part a success and engage margaret a reputation as a strong forceful leader. It even became a common theme for political cartoonists to draw margaret busting through windows guns blazing but her bolster reputation wouldn't do much good unless the economic situation improved which it thankfully started to economic growth was at four percent in nineteen eighty-one and inflation was steadily dropping margaret claimed in nineteen eighty one that the party was through the worst of it however even this wasn't enough to guarantee that margaret could stay in power much longer while inflation and interest rates were coming under control whole unemployment was still climbing reaching three million in nineteen eighty-two. If a general election or a vote of no confidence was called called margaret would be finished then margaret god incredibly lucky when argentina invaded britain more to be more specific specific. Argentina invaded a british colony. The falkland islands were a tiny holdover from britain's colonial days populated by about eighteen hundred people off the southeast coast of south america throughout the nineteen seventies britain had actually tried to give the islands back to argentina how ever the islanders liked being british citizens and refused any efforts to be returned to argentinian sovereignty in nineteen eighty-one in an effort to cut government spending margaret took the advice of our advisors in withdrew several warships from patrol in the area however argentina had recently been taken over by a dictatorial junta who were eager to prove their might eight the ships withdrawing from the falklands signaled they were ripe for the plucking and the islands fell under argentinian rule on april second nine hundred eighty two britain was immediately outraged and embarrassed by the argentinian invasion and many tories blamed matcher and her cabinet for leaving the islands vulnerable again. These are the same islands that they were trying to give back to the argentinians tinians only a few years ago. Then invasion is an invasion during these weeks. The reagan administration worked with the u._n. And attempted to sue for peace but margaret's government and the argentines both stood firm looking back. It's more than likely that margaret was counting on the argentinians to not back down after all a conflict would almost certainly result in a british victory which in turn would make margaret appear favorable to patriotic brits. That's exactly what happened on may fourth twenty british soldiers died after the argentinians sank a destroyer. The british retaliated by invading the island on may twenty first u._k. Won the day with relatively little bloodshed on the island. The war ended on june fourteenth. This was is arguably the greatest triumph of margaret's political career her approval rating soared to fifty nine percent by july nineteen eighty-two the highest i would ever climb the prevailing feeling in the country is that she had stood up against a bully and regained britain's honor on the world stage. Margaret margaret coasted towards a second term winning with a huge majority on june ninth nineteen eighty-three the landslide victory spurred margaret to keep pushing her mandate throughout nineteen eighty-four her supporters pointed to her victory as proof that the voters were obviously responding to her except that wasn't exactly the case despite the number of seats the tories won in the nineteen eighty-three election less than forty five percent of the country actually voted noted for her and her huge win was mostly due to the structure of the voting districts in terms of actual turnout. It was one of the weakest victories in british history tree. Still a win is a win and margaret took advantage of her new term in nineteen eighty four. She pushed for heavy privatization privatization of industries. These were industries that were propped up by both labour and tory governments to help keep people employed after the economic stagnation that came from world war two but margaret believed it was time for them to fend for themselves by the end of the following year. The previously public british telecom british gas and british airways had all been sold off to shareholders and standbys of industry where now in the hands of private investors this this immediately resulted in layoffs as the shareholder sought to maximize profits. Margaret also struck out harder against labor unions. She truly believed the path half to an economically strong. Britain was only achievable. If unions couldn't interfere with the growth of private industry should made headway in weakening the unions before four but now she was in a position to finally transform britain's relationship with organized labor. One of her major changes was altering a law regarding strikes likes now. If a union wanted to strike it was required to get permission from a majority of workers in the union which would guarantee less action. This combination asian of privatization and aggression against unions would culminate in one of the more torius events of thatcher's rule. The miners strike of nineteen eighty-four for most of the working class in the u._k. Especially in wales were minors but that industry had been flagging for decades whereas the previous administration had tried their best to keep the minds going. Margaret chose a different tactic. If the minds weren't making money they'd get shutdown. She proposed closing twenty unprofitable minds which would eliminate twenty thousand jobs. The miners naturally really weren't happy about this. The leader of the national union of mineworkers arthur scargill violated the law and called for a strike without polling his union. I i for the bulk of nineteen eighty-four the miners strike would dominate the news margaret as always stood firm against the descent she ordered a massive massive police presence to counter the picketing miners and these pickets regularly turned violent one notable event termed the battle of or grieve devolved into a pitched battle between thousands of miners and police spurred on when mounted police charged the miners fifty one miners and seventy epide- two police officers were injured during the strike over eleven thousand miners were arrested and most of them were fired from their jobs. The the strike raged on throughout nineteen eighty four with both margaret thatcher and arthur scargill refusing to budge in the meantime other tensions flared this time almost lethally during the tory party conference in october of that year margaret and her cabinet were staying at the grand hotel in brighton. <hes> margaret was awake at three a._m. October twelfth preparing her speech for the next morning in those early hours of the morning a bomb that had been planted in margaret's restroom detonated lasting a huge hole in several stories of the hotel by nothing but sheer luck doc margaret had been waiting outside of the bathroom. When the bomb went off pet. She'd been any closer to the restroom. She likely would have been killed. Five people were killed killed in the attack including a tory. M p in thirty one were injured. Margaret was escorted out and appeared in front of the press amir hour later her composed and poised. She went on to give her speech. The next morning as scheduled by all accounts margaret was completely unshaken in her memoirs. She recollect her mental state the morning after the bombing quote. The news was bad much worse than i had feared. I saw the news who's that roberta wakeham and anthony berry m._p. Were dead. I knew that i could not afford to let my emotions get control of me. I had to be mentally and physically physically fit for the day ahead the next day. The irish republican army took credit for the bombing the irish republican army or i._r._a. Worthy representatives of northern ireland who were currently in a bloody and protracted rebellion against centuries of british occupation when taking credit for the bombing in the i._r._a. Statement read mrs thatcher will now realise that britain cannot occupy our country and torture our prisoners and shoot our people bull in their own streets and get away with it today. We were unlucky but remember we only have to be lucky once you will have to be lucky key always give ireland peace and there will be no more war the bombing only increased margaret's defiance violence against her political enemies including the miners who she had previously described as the enemy within and as it had in the past her strategy not of not budging eventually paid off while england did depend on the coal miners for survival margaret had had the foresight to stockpile a year supply of coal role as soon as scargel had called the strike when it became clear that margaret would not budge and in fact the miners needed their money more than england needed their coal roll scargel called off the strike. The minds were opened and the still working miners abandoned their strike without any of their demands met returning into work in march nineteen. Eighty five has for the i._r._a. Margaret returned to her principal of appealing to patriotism although she low the the i._r._a. She appreciated the idea of a unified united kingdom and in a rare move of diplomacy negotiated with garret fitzgerald the shock or prime minister of ireland. The eventual result of their negotiations was the anglo irish agreement signed by margaret and fitzgerald old in november nineteen eighty five it was a landmark piece of diplomacy and the first step to the eventual good friday agreement that guaranteed peace in ireland lend in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight again. Margaret seemed to be unstoppable despite the working classes growing anger at her and the constant climb of the unemployment appointment rate but while she was re elected in nineteen eighty-seven due to further recoveries in the economy she was rapidly making enemies within her own cabinet it there was a push within the tories to join something called the exchange rate mechanism a plan within the european economic community which would later become come part of the e._u. The basics of it would be that the value of various currencies around europe would be linked together in order to stabilize them which would eventually really pave the way for the euro while most tories in the cabinet where four the e. r. M. margaret stood in defiance. She believed in britain not the european community and felt that she had worked to strengthen her country not the whole of europe. Here's a telling quote from a speech in nineteen eighty-seven we have not successfully rolled back the frontiers of the state in britain only to see them reimposed with a european superstate exercising a new dominance even for her fellow tories. This was a step too far after tensions flared within her cabinet. Margaret margaret fired one of her top advisers geoffrey howe and prompted another adviser nigel lawson to resign while margaret would finally have britain enjoined the e._r._m. In nineteen ninety she had made new enemies within her party. Additionally margaret finally pushed the public too far and she did did it by favouring her own economic philosophies over the wisdom of her party. Margaret wanted to replace a major element of the taxation system wherein each <unk> household was taxed with the community charge which would tax each individual a flat rate the idea being that every individual would pay their fair share. This new proposal quickly became known as the poll tax. Even among the tories this was seen as an insane idea and the problems were readily apparent. Rich people would be paying a lower percentage of their income then poor people. It's not entirely clear why margaret thought this would be a good idea yeah. Although some of the wisdom of the time was that everyone thought it was so crazy that nobody bothered to tell her not to do it. This feels like a repeat of the milk snatching incident combat this time. The backlash was a hundred times worse. There were literal riots in the streets. Nobody paid the tax thatcher as always stuck to oregon's and decried any torey who disagreed with her between her intransigence with the exchange rate mechanism and the poll tax acce the rest of the tories had enough particularly because they knew they could never abolish the poll tax. If margaret was still in power on november twentieth twentieth nineteen ninety a leadership challenge was called among the tories were margaret held the majority by fifty votes. She much like edward heath before or her saw what was coming. She called her cabinet members into her office one by one and ask them straight out. Do you still support me. The the answer from each of them was a resounding albeit respectful. No she withdrew herself from the leadership ballot on november twenty second and ended her political career with fiery speech in parliament summing up her accomplishments to both the labor opposition and the tories who just opposed her. She was succeeded by prime minister john major on the twenty eighth of november nineteen ninety margaret never really got over being thrown out of her office. She spent the rest of her years relatively quietly but was bitter and resentful of how she exited her work in government she she wrote her memoirs and held speaking engagements her daughter carol wrote a biography of dennis stature in nineteen ninety six while the biography mostly chronicled how dennis kept saying well margaret was running the country. It was also hugely critical of margaret as mother margaret died in two thousand thirteen at at the age of eighty seven after a stroke she had a huge state funeral which was accompanied by raucous street parties celebrating her death the week she died the song ding dong the which is dead from the wizard of oz hit number two on the u._k. Singles chart harsh obviously flea in her life and death. She was divisive while nobody can deny that margaret thatcher transformed the country and counteracted the economic decline that transformation mation also obliterated the mining communities in the u._k. Turned england from an industrial economy to a hub of international stock trading and pave the way for the skepticism of europe that eventually led to votes authorizing brexit margaret thatcher took power in great britain during a time when the country's people and and it's government were becoming increasingly divided across the political spectrum. She embodied this fractured country taking extreme actions that depending ending on who you ask either saved or doomed britain we'll leave you with the words of bard college professor richard aldous regarding the divisive legacy margaret thatcher. Thanks for tuning in to historical figures. We will be back in two weeks with a new episode. 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In true crime to hear all new episodes every day followed today in true crime for free on spotify and anywhere you listen to podcasts. Today is wednesday august twenty first two thousand nineteen on this day in nineteen eleven. A man stole a painting and cemented its cultural legacy but what's remarkable about the heist is not the criminals lack of experience or the paintings incredible fame but how astonishingly easy it was for vincenzo perrugia to steal the mona lisa welcome to today in true crime a podcast original every day. We tell a timely story from true crime history then analyze the historical impact of that day's events. I'm vanessa richardson and today i'm diving into the heist that rocketed the mona lisa to international fame. How how did a former worker steal the museums most valuable painting in a one man operation. Let's go back to paris on the morning of the theft august twenty first nineteen eleven around six a._m. Vincenzo perrugia made his way through the cobbled streets of paris fast but not too fast underneath his laborers smock and his com- veneer he hit a sense of purpose a sense of patriotism. It was time to take back with the frenchman had stolen and returned to italy where it belonged. Perrugia had contemplated the day's mission for months. He planned every step of his rise from petty crime to grand larceny down to the day of the week monday. The louvre museum was closed on mondays but just because it was closed didn't mean it wasn't brimming with people workers milled in and out along the rue de rivoli the front gate of the world's greatest art museum was wide open just as perrugia expected he we walked right in he knew there would be only ten guards on duty that day and if he was lucky none in the ceylon okay even if there were guards none would spare a thought at the arrival of one of their glass workers for years perrugia had made himself a common site at the liuw installing flawless glass covers in the frames of famous paintings including the mona ona lisa perrugia still recalled the first time he held the mona lisa painted on wood and it's eighteen pounds were no match for the weight of the emotions at drew out of him joy intrigue and rapture la la your conduct. Could he ever create something so incredible even if he couldn't sharing nationality with its painter leonardo ardo davinci brought him pride a pride. That was the birthright of all italians. Perrugia took the quickest route through the liuw off blending in with museum workers if anyone asked he was here to inspect the glass not long after seven thirty a._m. He entered the ceylon kallay the square room where she lived. The gallery was empty but there wasn't time for admiration. He quickly lifted the mona lisa from its four small wall hooks. It was nearly two hundred pounds but peru joe was prepared to lift the weight. He was the one who'd installed the frame. After all no one gave him a second glance as he carried the a painting out of the gallery and into a small empty stairwell perrugia new all the private spaces hiding between the sweeping galleries and this one doubled as a way out in the privacy of the stairwell he removed the glass covering the mona lisa discarding discarding her frame like a lover's dress. He wrapped the painting in a white sheet and with his lightened load hurry down the stairs. Uh-huh perrugia reached the door it was locked. He was trapped in a stairwell with a stolen painting. This was not in the plan undeterred. Perrugia considered the doorknob like everything in the liuw. He knew its inner workings. He set down the painting and began to unscrew the knob. The knob plopped off. He was out but before perrugia could push push open the door. Someone called out his name. Perrugia turned it was his old friend so vei one of the luth's plumbers thinking quickly perrugia pocketed the doorknob and greeted survey. Could he believe one of the idiot. Guards broke the door so they offered to help fix it. He had tools on him. The men made casual small talk each word weighing on perrugia. He prayed his friend wouldn't notice the bulging doorknob in his pocket or the painting hidden under the sheet so they took his time finally so vay opened the door and perrugia promised they'd catch up soon carrying the painting perrugia sped out out of the leave. No one was guarding the doors so he left without being questioned or even noticed perrugia. You just threw away the doorknob an alley and fled the scene. It was a forty minute walk home if he was fast perrugia took cobblestones sidestreets sidestreets remaining as inconspicuous as possible despite the cultural treasure he was smuggling. Finally he arrived at his modest one room flat there. He hid the mona lisa under the stove. Perrugia didn't need to look at the painting. He was intimately familiar with the work. Her mysterious is her secretive smirk. Humanity peeking through the webb of distinctive cracks in centuries old oil paint davinci's masterwork was the intrigue of the art world it belonged longed to italy and it was almost home up next historical analysis of the a heist now back to the story despite it being their most valuable piece of art it would take the loof security over a day to notice the mona lisa had been stolen. They'd only begin searching on august twenty second nineteen eleven after a particularly obstreperous art student made a fuss. One hundred and twenty officers and sixty detectives swarmed the scene. The louvre shut down for a full week but authorities turned up only a soul fingerprint and a doorknob both deemed named frankly useless authorities honed in on a variety of suspects including one pablo picasso for two years no l. one would see the mona lisa and yet everyone would see the mona lisa police circulated photos of the painting and the news of the theft of the lose most valuable painting made international headlines copies of the portrait spread like gossip. Liuw patrons waited in line line to see the empty space where she used to hang within a year. The mona lisa skyrocketed to immortality though vincenzo peru's theft did not bring the painting home to italy permanently. It made the mona lisa the most famous painting in history history. After vincenzo perrugia stole the mona lisa on august twenty first nineteen eleven it it remained in his apartment unframed and unprotected for the next two years on the east side of paris. It was by no means jeans and a nice neighborhood. Some sources allege that perrugia briefly had a fellow italian ex patriot. Keep the painting for him again in a simple apartment. Supposedly perrugia gave the painting to his friend because he was worried the wintertime moisture in his unheated apartment would damage the would it was a failure to plan on peru's part but he wasn't the only failure in this case peru had a history of a petty crime and the french authorities had his fingerprints on file. Their sole piece of evidence was a clear fingerprint lifted from the abandoned. I didn't frame it should have been a simple solution but french police protocol at the time dictated that only right hand fingerprints were taken taken from captured criminals and the print recovered at the scene of the mona. Lisa heist was from a left hand the sole piece of evidence and also the only piece needed to solve the crime was useless. Luckily perrugia an and inexperienced criminal eventually came forward with the painting in november of nineteen thirteen. He wrote to alfredo jerry an international art dealer based in florence. He said he had the mona lisa desired to return to italy and would exchange it for a reward award. He signed the letter leonoard hoping jerry would get the obvious reference jerry spoke with giovanni poggi director of florence's famed uffizi gallery poedji thought it was worth entertaining the mysterious leonoard. If it was a forgery a jury they'd quickly figure it out and on the off chance it was the real logic honda it was worth a shot so that december vincenzo perrugia hid the painting in the false bottom of his trunk and boarded a train to florence mona lisa road third-class third class in florence perrugia still using his alias leonoard checked into a hotel and left the mona lisa there while oh he met with jerry jerry agreed to pay perrugia five hundred thousand lire nearly one hundred twenty thousand dollars today as a reward or more accurately a ransom the next day jerry introduced perrugia to poedji and perrugia introduced use them both to the mona lisa which he'd kept in his trunk wrapped in red satin and hidden under art supplies it was was the real painting identified by the distinctive crack lure the web of cracks that span across the painting as a result of aging peru's peru's painting matched old photographs of the mona lisa like a fingerprint poggi and jerry promptly turned leonoard in and despite his noble intentions vincenzo peru joe was tried as a criminal and and though his fellow italians cheered his nationalism he was convicted of theft and sentenced to a year and fifteen days in prison prison. However perrugia did get his wish for about two weeks. The mona lisa was displayed in the feet. See gallery. It was then then returned to the louvre where it resides to this day but the saga wasn't over yet twenty years later american journalist karl decker published a story in the saturday evening post claiming he'd spoken to the real mastermind behind the mona lisa heist one eduardo dave all fear. No the story rested on the idea that perrugia an immigrant labor are described described by historian donald sassoon as almost illiterate could not of pulled off this incredible heist alone decker reported that vault fear no was a con man who concocted a master scheme to defraud six american millionaires by selling them mona lisa forgeries to legitimize the con- he hired perrugia to steal the real mona lisa according to the story perrugia gave welfare no the real he'll mona lisa but stole it back two years later when he decided it belonged in italy while this makes for a fun story about defrauding the rich and immoral none of fear knows forgeries have ever come to light yet. The conspiracy theory lives on circling pop culture year a year. After year a tale of con artists and a criminal spiderweb matches the profile of the world's most famous painting a tale tale of lax security and alone patriot does not but the truth is sometimes crime is easy. Sometimes criminals aminals aren't masterminds and sometimes all it takes is the confidence to walk into the front door of the liuw like it or not on august twenty first nineteen eleven and uneducated immigrant single handedly changed the landscape of the art world old for more information on the mona lisa lisa heist and the painting itself check out the episodes of unexplained mysteries on the mona lisa. I'm vanessa richardson today. In true crime is a podcast original. You can find more episodes of today in true crime and all other podcast originals for free on spotify not only to spotify spotify already have all of your favorite music but now spotify is making it easy for you to enjoy all of your favorite podcast originals like today in true crime for a free from your phone desktop or smart speaker to stream today in true crime on spotify. Just open the app and type today in true crime in the search the bar at podcast. We're grateful for you our listeners. 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Been Caught Stealing (ep. 125)

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Been Caught Stealing (ep. 125)

"Today's episode is brought to you by your brain on facts the book want the fact that my voice ask your local bookseller for the your brain on facts book. But if you want my voice without the facts, I am available for voice over work and listeners get fifty percent off no job too small email me Moxie at your brain on facts dot COM When you think of big heists your mind probably goes to thankful faults jewelry and fine art. Maybe a casino carefully organized plans by people dressed in black turtlenecks with lots of cool gadgets close calls. What we remember as the daring heist of one of the world's most famous paintings. was really neither of those things. The heist wasn't particularly daring and the theft of Leonardo DAVINCI's Mona Lisa. Wasn't even noticed until well after it had happened. My Name's Moxy and this is your brain on facts. These days the Mona Lisa also called in Italy login Kanda and her famous enigmatic smile hang in a prominent place in the Louvre in Paris. It holds the Guinness World Record for the highest known insurance valuation in History at one, hundred, million dollars in nineteen, sixty two. So. That would be about eight hundred million dollars today. Over six million people go to see it each year. It's so popular that you can't even snap a quick Selfie of it without having a few dozen other strangers, hands, and cell phones in the frame. This popularity certainly wasn't the case when the painting was I hung in the Leuven eighteen o four or for the century subsequent. Neither was popular with critics when the artistic elite who often relegated it to the low end of DAVINCI's work it was basically just another painting. It was so unsocial in fact that it took the better part of twenty four hours before staff even noticed the painting was missing in Nineteen. Eleven. A handyman named Vincenzo Perrugia was working in the museum and he simply waited in a closet until after the museum had closed. Tuck to the painting under his smock walked on out. He was unwittingly aided by a plumber also working in the museum who unlocked a for Peruta when he found himself stuck inside. The police were called and they searched the museum. The only sign they found the Japan Kanda was frame laying on a staircase. Though police did find some twenty one other paintings in the museum. The curator's had previously reported missing. The. Search went citywide then national then international. Ships were searched before they left France or after arriving in their port of call. A reward of over half a million dollars in today's money was offered. The Mona Lisa's picture was printed in newspapers all over the world. It became a of Mona Lisa Mania. The theft of this single painting served a spawn multiple criminal enterprises. People on the wrong side of the law knew that those with more money than morals would want to buy. LEGITIM- Kanda. A pair of confidence men from Belgium hired a small army of forgers to make quality fakes, which they then sold to select around the globe. They made sure their buyers were unlikely to ever meet and rested soundly knowing that no one would let on that they had purchased the most famous stolen painting in the world. Though today, one of them would probably take a selfie with it. The huge reward and the number of fakes in circulation meant the police were inundated with leads. For two years they searched tirelessly. But Fruitlessly The sixty man strong force even interviewed, Peruta Twice. But decided, he couldn't be the criminal mastermind they were looking for. Not only did those two years not yield the Mona Lisa the police didn't even find the forgeries. The head of the Paris police retired in shame. Did, peruse, you get an enormous payday for the stolen painting. People were soon to learn that he didn't steal it for money. When ferruccio approached museum in Florence to sell them the painting, the museum's director called the police instead. After. His arrest Russia's stated. I worked in the Louvre making frames for paintings stolen from Italy by France every day I pass login Kanda and swore I would return it to its rightful home. He seemed convinced he would be heralded as a hero. This was sadly not the case but the Italian courts were sympathetic giving him only a year in prison for the world famous theft. These days legit Kanda sits behind more bulletproof glass than the pope could just as easily have been any other italian-born work. If a different one of Leonardo's works had been stolen said Noah charney professor of Art History and author of the thefts of the Mona. Lisa. Then that would have been the most famous work in the world and not the Mona Lisa. There was nothing that really distinguished it per se until it was stolen. The theft is what really skyrocketed its appeal and made it a household name. A quick aside for an art theft story that while not as famous is no less memorable. After, a pair of Spanish conmen discovered the Goya painting they had purchased was a forgery. They tried to recoup their losses by reselling the painting to an alleged Arab sheikh for four million euros using the same certificate of authenticity that had fooled them. Mysterious Italian middleman charged the Spaniards three hundred thousand euros to broker the deal. The two conmen traveled to Turin to receive one point seven million Swiss francs as down payment and pay the broker, the three, hundred, thousand euros which they had borrowed from a friend. However when the conman attempted to exchange the Swiss Francs in a bank in Geneva. It was discovered they had been given photocopies of Swiss Francs. The fake painting had been paid for with fake. Money. Though the money they gave the broker was very real. The equivalent of four, hundred, thousand dollars. To. Make matters even worse upon leaving Switzerland, the two were detained by French customs who discovered the fake Swiss francs in their suitcase and informed the Spanish authorities. The painting was also confiscated. Picture if you will an artist that is more famous for his techniques, then for the art he created. He took his teachers method. A not only created a small empire from it. He took business away from said teacher moving quickly from competitor to industry dominator. His teacher was given credit. In the beginning. The public was allowed to make what assumptions they would about where the technique came from. As long as they kept tuning into the show and buying the products. That artist's name. I am sorry to break this to you. Dear Listener. It. Was Bob Ross. Bob Ross the famously softspoken Afro headed host of the joy of painting was taught his famous wet on wet fast painting technique by a German ex pat named Bill Alexander who actually had his own pbs painting show called the Magic of oil painting which ran from seventy four to eighty to. Alexander's show like the joy of painting which ran from eighty three to ninety four was basically an advertisement for his painting supply. Business. Alexander. Art. Bob Ross began his adult life in the air force where he would rise to be master sergeant and was stationed in Alaska. which is no doubt why he painted so many snow covered vistas. He was constantly searching for an art teacher who could actually teach him to paint when he took a class with Bob? Alexander. The wet wet painting technique was an epiphany for. Ross. The joy of painting started airing on PBS in Nineteen eighty-three. At. First things were pleasant between Ross and Alexander with Alexander even filming a segment to pass the torch to his former student. The joy of painting generating so much business for Alexander art that they couldn't keep up with demand and someone that person's identity has been lost to history suggested to. Bob Ross that he should start his own art supply company. After Bob Ross Inc became a fifteen million dollar industry of how to books, videos and art supplies. Things between the two men changed. In one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, one New York Times profile Ross declined to mention his painting teacher because quote he is our biggest competitor. He betrayed me Alexander said in an interview I invented wet on wet I trained him and he's copying me. What bothers me is not just that he betrayed me but that he thinks he can do it better. Full. Disclosure. Alexander. Did Not invent wet on wet or Alla Prima. It dates back at least as far as Vanik van Gogh and Monet. So, why was Ross able to eclipse Alexander to such an extent? It may come down to something as simple as likability. Alexander. was passionate an animated prone to rambling even singing off key. Ross on the other hand was laid back funkier and on threatening peace nick. Ross saw this distinction as did PBS station managers who realized as The New York Times reported is expanding circles. Viewers were for the most part not even painting. Nor did they have any plans to start? They watched the joy of painting simply because it was the most relaxing show on television. It is unfailingly simple a three camera production with black backdrop and at Ross's insistence no edits. Ross wears the same thing every time blue jeans and John Henry Shirt and in twenty six minutes not only completes a painting but also in his soft lullaby voice murmurs familiar Bob, `ISMs like. Happy little trees and what the heck. Let's give him a little friend over there and. There are no mistakes only happy accidents. The show was so nice to listen. that. It was even popular with blind viewers. Obscuring outselling his teacher aside, the Internet isn't wrong with its love affair. For Bob. Ross. Not only could he be called the Orgy of Asmar but you've gotTa love a guy who wants did an entire episode working only in shades of gray because he got a letter from a fan who said he couldn't take up painting because he was colorblind. Russ's trademark Afro was actually a perm that he'd initially gotten to avoid the cost of properly maintaining his crew cut and then when the show took off found, himself basically stuck with it. People would often tell Ross that his show put them to sleep. Did he mind. Now, he enjoyed that just as much as the people who said that he'd inspire them to paint. And one time he did the show with a tiny baby squirrel in his pocket. So you gotTa love that. From art we moved to science. What do you think is the worst part of working on a group project? Is it trying to come to a meeting of minds on what you're going to do? Is it that person who accepts their share of the assignment and then doesn't do anything? Or is it when someone takes all the credit for one of the greatest advances in our understanding of biology? Probably, the third one. That's what happened to the discoverer of the double helix shape of DNA English chemist and x Ray crystallography Rosalind Franklin. There's probably no other woman scientists with as much controversy surrounding her life and work as Rosalind Franklin. Asterisk for Marie curious love life. But that's another show. Franklin was responsible for much of the research and discovery work that led to the understanding of the structure of deoxyribonucleic acid or DNA. Born in Nineteen. Twenty. Franklin excelled at science and attended one of the few girls' schools in London that taught physics and chemistry. When she was fifteen. Sided to become a scientist and despite her father stance against higher education for women and his wish that Rosalind become a social worker she enrolled at. Newnham. College. Cambridge in nineteen thirty eight. She held a graduate fellowship for a year, but quit in nineteen forty two to work at the British coal utilization. Research Association. where she made fundamental studies of carbon and graphite micro structures. Cole was not only important for power, but charcoal was a key component in gas masks. Her research was her contribution to the war efforts, of world, War Two and was the basis of her doctorate in physical chemistry which she earned from. Cambridge. University in Nineteen forty-five. After. Cambridge. She spent three productive years at a laboratory in Paris where she learned x Ray diffraction techniques. X Ray Diffraction is an important non-destructive method for analyzing all kinds of matter from fluids to powders to crystals. The technique involved bombarding the sample with xrays rays, the electron cloud of the atoms in the sample, bend the X ray slightly. This makes a picture of the molecule that can be seen on a screen. In nineteen fifty one Franklin returned to England as a research associate in John Randall's laboratory at King's College London. It was in Randall's lab that she crossed paths with Maurice Wilkins. She and Wilkins lead separate research groups although both were concerned with DNA. Assigned Franklin, a DNA project that had already begun but no one had worked on, for, months. Wilkins was away at the time and when he returned, he misunderstood her role behaving as though she were an assistant disappointing but not surprising given the climate. Only, males were allowed in the university dining room, for example, and after hours, Franklin colleagues went to men only pubs. Nevertheless. Franklin persisted on the DNA project. Her techniques allowed her to take better images of the structure of DNA than anyone ever had before. Jd. Brunell. Scientist who pioneered the use of x Ray crystallography in molecular biology called her x Ray photographs of DNA the most beautiful x ray photographs of any substance ever taken without Franklin's knowledge or permission Wilkins showed these images and her data to James Watson and Francis Crick who were themselves working on DNA projects that. Photo was essential to the findings they published in nineteen fifty three again without Franklin. Knowledge. She was aware of their research but had no idea that her work had been subsumed into it as she was not credited at all. The closest she got was the journal Nature citing her work. To Bolster Watson and Crick's claims. Rosalind? Franklin. Can be working until her death from ovarian cancer in nineteen fifty eight. Four years later, Watson and Crick were awarded a Nobel prize for their discovery. They shared the award with Wilkins but made no mention of Franklin. Admittedly, Nobel prizes aren't awarded posthumously. So we'll never know if she would have finally received the credit she had been denied during her lifetime. But credit where credit is due I have to give thanks to people who have left reviews lately both for the podcast and for the book. On the various podcast players iceman eighty, eight, eighty, eight said, how can you not love this show five stars Love Moxie love you to iceman. And John Ravens bottom who deserves five stars of his own for that amazing surname said, this show is fantastic brilliantly written, paced and presented each episode contains so much depth that they are easily heard again and again with something new coming from each listen Moxie is very talented. Her usage delivery are perfectly suited to the material I look forward to learning more fascinating facts and amusing anecdotes from this incredibly professional and entertaining talent also looking forward to getting her book. I do hope that you enjoy it thoroughly John as did bill s who left a review on. Amazon need and Ernie Knowledge. Now, you're in the right place friend this is your source for the coolest little known facts and corrections on everything. You thought you understood the author writes as she speaks with a delightful blend of humor, wit and intelligence. Thank you so much bill as for that if you would like to hear your opinion, read on the show, leave a review for the book on Amazon or good. Reeds, which frankly is still Amazon or leave a review for the podcast on your favorite podcast player. The theft of intellectual property from one person is in arguably bad but it pales in comparison to stealing the life savings of thousands of people. Compounding. The Economic Crisis of two thousand eight was Bernie madoff and his ponzi scheme. He and his accomplices stole as much as twenty billion dollars with a B. from investors. They'd been at it for so long that to this day no one is sure exactly when they started. What we can be sure of is that most of the People Bernie Madoff bilked. We'll see little or no money ever come back outside of really bad fraud. What is a Ponzi scheme anyway? The basic mechanism is to promise your investors, irresistible returns and take their money. Then you promise amazing returns to a second group of investors, take their money and use it as the returns for the first group who will hopefully give you even more money to invest in huge bunny ears. Now that they see that the system works lot of bunny ears for this. then. You get a third group of investors and give their money to group to all while keeping back a tidy sum for yourself lather. Rinse repeat. The word ponzi itself is a proper Noun, the family name of a charismatic Italian emigrant who lived in. Boston. In one, thousand, nine, hundred, twenty. Charles Ponzi stood only five foot two but he was a giant in his community though only briefly. Ponzi claimed that he had figured out a way to cash in on the chaotic post, World War One economic conditions of Europe by buying international, postal, union coupons from certain countries where they were discounted, then redeeming them at full value in the states. For example, a coupon could be bought in Germany for a penny and redeemed in the US for a nickel. Ponzi claimed he had an army of agents scouring Europe to buy up all the available discounted coupons. In. Nineteen. Nineteen and twenty Ponzi took in upwards of fifteen million dollars in small investments from forty thousand people. Many of them, Italian Americans and recent immigrants. People lined up around the block to get through the pie alley entrance to Ponzi Securities Exchange, commission and hand over their hard earned savings. The streets are paved with gold right? Everyone gets rich in America. Ponzi certainly did. He bought a hundred suits with matching shoes. He smoked copious cigars through diamond studded holders. His mansion in Lexington had air conditioning and a heated pool. He was just shy of lighting those cigars with hundred dollar bills while he propped his feet up on a poor investor. His life of reilly came to an end in the summer of nineteen twenty. After an investigation, the feds declared that every single postal coupon redeemed in the entire country by everyone. Wouldn't account for even a fraction of the Prophets Ponzi claims to have made. A public relations agent who worked for Ponzi told the Boston Globe the man is a complete financial idiot. He can barely ad he sits with his feet on his desk talking complete gibberish postal coupons. Publicist further claimed that Ponzi had never once issued or received a foreign financial draft? On Monday August ninth a bank commissioner declared ponzis accounts were overdrawn. On, Wednesday. It was revealed that Ponzi had served prison time in Canada for forgery and in Atlanta for smuggling illegal aliens investors swarmed his office desperately trying to get their money back. By that Friday Ponzi was in custody. In the face of over ten thousand creditors demanding four million dollars, ponzi declared bankruptcy. He was later sentenced to five years in federal prison for six counts of mail fraud since he had mailed his victims letters to report how well they're in it's doing. He served about three and a half of those years then got released to face state charges. for which he received a sentence of nine more years. But before he could go to jail, he jumped bail and tried to start new scams in Florida and Texas. You would think that the government would have learned their lesson about trusting this guy. Eventually though his time on the Lam ran out and he served his whole sentence. Upon his release Ponzi was deported to Italy where the man who was more clever than he was smart. Tried to defraud. Benito Mussolini. The rest of his life was a string of less successful cons and jail sentences until his death in a charity hospital in Brazil in nineteen forty. Nine. And as for our modern Ponzi, Bernie made off his currently earning forty dollars a in prison wiping down electronics and his scheduled for release in twenty thirty nine Oh excuse me twenty, one, thirty, nine. Thankfully. I know some folks who are a tad more trusting the supporters over at Patriotair Dot com slash your brain on facts. People must have been really impressed with me embarrassing myself by singing the names of the patrons the other day because in the past week, four new members have joined. So welcome and thank you to Thomas Brandie Ronnie and Elissa. Look forward to hearing your name Sung off key eventually probably. For a little bit longer members of all levels will receive all rewards which include ad free episodes. If the show has a sponsor that week bonus mini episodes such as the most recent one about the disaster that was opening day at Disney and spot the Lai, which is presently suspended. While we recast for a fourth host fellow PODCASTERS WHO WANNA get on get in on that by all means at me on the social media facebook and Instagram your brain on facts twitter's brain on facts pot. So I'm doing something a little different to take the place of spot alive for September I recently begun narrating audiobook says I get into doing voice work and there was a chapter in one of the books that I just had to share with somebody and that somebody was Paul from the varmints podcast which I'm assuming you're already subscribe to. So be there later this month to hear Paul's reaction to one of the most staggering things I have ever read Patriots Dot com slash your brain on fax. Much in the way, the Mona Lisa would not have been famous if not for a theft, it was theft by the late arly Ernie that made him arguably the world's most famous marine. When we first meet Gunnery Sergeant Hartman in Stanley Kubrick's nineteen eighty-seven Vietnam epic full metal jacket he's introducing recruits to the Marine Corp Camp. Artem in your finger girl and. On, you will speak only when spoken to and the first. Words out of your filthy sewer, we'll be served maggots understand that. Air You. A fair. Thus begins a six minute long rapid fire harangue much of which was improvised as a teenager. The Kansas native was arrested twice criminal mischief. The court gave him a choice. Prison or the military. Army. Chose the latter and joined the Marine Corps where he served for eleven years including fourteen months in Vietnam and two tours of duty stationed in Okinawa Japan. Eventually he became a drill sergeant, which was one reason he was so excelled in the role as drill Sergeant Hartman after retiring from the military decided on a different career path and began taking acting classes. He once told an interviewer that he devised a plan to break into Hollywood use his knowledge from military. To become a technical director uncertain films. Then once in the crew, show the filmmakers that he should be starring in their movies. The plan actually worked. Three times. Scoring him the first three roles of his career a sergeant in Sydney j fury's the boys in company. C A helicopter pilot in Francis Ford Coppola Apocalypse now and Hartman. The rule of Hartman originally belonged to actor Tim Cossery but he tired himself out after only thirty minutes of yelling at extras during a video tape for hersal. Army stepped in and took over His energy never let up. Coal sairy ended up playing a door gunner instead. Here's where the story starts to spin off a bit into modern legend territory. Some accounts claim that arly. Went to director. Stanley. Kubrick. And asked for the role of Gunnery Sergeant Hartman since his opinion, the actors on set more up to the job. When Kubrick declined army and for Kubrick to stand up when he was spoken to and the director reflexively obeyed. Got The role. Another account holds that army persuaded Kubrick to cast him by making a homemade audition tape showed him screaming insults with stone face as tennis balls and oranges thrown his head. Once, he landed the role according to the Guardian he rehearsed the same way. KUBRICK's assistant. Leon vitale would sit across from me in a fifty foot long room and hurled tennis balls at Emily Practices Lines. I had to catch the ball and throw it back to Leon as fast as possible and say the lines as fast as possible. Told The New York Times and Nineteen eighty-seven. If I were to slur a word, drop a word or slow down I had to start over I had to do it twenty times without a mistake Leon was my drill instructor. For the most part, the lines he was practicing weren't actually in the script. Ernie improvised about half of his dialogue drawing on his memories of the service. Inventing those insults wasn't particularly hard for him. That was just Ernie being drill instructor. My main objective was basically to just play the drill instructor the way the drill instructor was and let the chips fall where they may army said in history channel interview. You can ask any drill instructor who was down there in sixty five or sixty six. That's exactly how the drill instructors demeanor was. There were no punches pulled. Think you could think of as many insults his early Ernie you may want to think again. According to Stanley Kubrick had produced one hundred, fifty pages of insults. Though a kind and gentle family man in real life army would play essentially the same character in over one hundred projects as varied as HBO's Horror Staple Tales from the crypt, the short and really underappreciated Scifi series space above and beyond and more family friendly fare like the toy story movies where he voiced the little green army men SARGE. and. That's where we run out of ideas at least for today. But I'll leave you with a bonus. Super Geek fact in the same way that Kirk never said, beam me up Scotty and Sherlock Holmes Ever said elementary my dear Watson the phrase full metal jacket does not appear in the book the film was based on it made its way into the script after Kubrick at a gun catalog. Thanks for spending part of Your Day with me. Stay safe.

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Lorena and John Bobbitt Pt. 1: Dream Shattered

Crimes of Passion

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Lorena and John Bobbitt Pt. 1: Dream Shattered

"I'm vanessa richardson introducing a new podcast original today in true crime. Today is wednesday august twenty first two thousand nineteen on this day in nineteen eleven. A man stole a painting and cemented. It's cultural legacy but what's remarkable about the heist is not the criminals lack of experience or the paintings incredible fame but how astonishingly easy it was for vincenzo perrugia to steal the mona lisa aw today and true crime podcast new daily show that relives the biggest true crime events from each day in history. Don't miss today's his full episode follow today and true crime for free on spotify and anywhere you listen to podcasts now due to the graphic nature of these crimes listener discretion is advised this episode includes discussions of domestic violence and sexual assault that some people may find offensive and maybe upsetting for some listeners we advise extreme caution for children under the age of thirteen for more information and resources victims and survivors survivors of domestic violence can call the national domestic violence hotline and one eight hundred seventy nine nine seven two three three or visit w._w._w. The u. w. w. dot the hotline dot org. Irma castro recognized that she was an old fashioned russian woman. Her teenage daughters sometimes scoffed at her rules and admonitions but she believed that it was important to race them with the firm hand. Young people could be so foolish and impulsive. They need sensible adults to guide them to ensure. They didn't stray into harm. That's what irma feared for llerena guy. Oh even though llerena wasn't her biological child. Irma was responsible for her and she she was becoming concerned by some of the changes. She noticed in the last few months. Llerena was acting differently ever since she met that young man in the marine marine corps in irma's opinion. The boy just wasn't responsible when he came to visit lorraina. He didn't show the right kind of respect. Irma kept track of the grades arena earned at community college and she had noted that since llerena started hanging out with him she had gone from getting as as and bs. Two apps and irma's daughters told her he never seemed to have any money. He was sponging off arena like elite. That wasn't how a proper courtship should go of course lorena wouldn't hear anything of it. She just kept saying saying she loved him. Irma didn't know what to do. She would never lead that mandate one of her own daughters she knew that lorena was on a bad path breath and she was afraid for her but if the young woman wouldn't listen to reason there was nothing irma do but pray for llerena guiso in john wayne bobbitt i i'm leaning hobbs and this is crimes of passion a podcast original. The legal definition of a crime of passion is a violent crime that occurs in the throes of of extreme emotion leaving no time to reflect on the consequences but in this show we explore how the passions of our relationships sometimes lead us criminal activity how does a husband and wife become killer and victim or killer and co conspirator. If there's a thin line signed between love and hate what manipulates our relationships into deadly results at podcast we are grateful for you our listeners. You allow us to do what we love. Let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and instagram at podcast and twitter at podcast network and if you enjoyed today's episode the best way to help us to leave a five star review where ever you're listening it really does help we also now have merchandise had had depart cast dot com slash merch for more information. It's been twenty five years percents lorraina and john wayne bobbitt burst made headlines across the country for anyone even slightly familiar with their story. It's almost impossible will not to feel a visceral reaction to the name bobbitt it invokes discussed outrage ridicule or all three but while the name remains notorious the details of their relationship are often obscured by jokes and lurid speculation in this episode will explore. We're at the beginning of john and lorena bobbitt courtship and the volatile marriage that followed in our next to episodes. We'll talk about how the bobbitt's marriage culminated needed in an infamous act of mutilation and the criminal charges trials an media frenzy that surrounded the couple furlough arena geico family meant love tradition and respect these were the values she was raised to believe in born in buckeye ecuador in nineteen sixty nine lorraine grew up in a deeply religious catholic family though her parents were strict llerena always felt surrounded by warmth and affection in describing her parents relationship. She said they are like acquittal. Kids always holding hands when lorena was five. Her family moved from ecuador venezuela. They hope to find a better life there but dasmarinas got older. She dreamed about starting over in another country even farther away. She was in love with the idea of living in the united states dates. She grew up watching american movies and television captivated by the alluring world they portrayed she completely bought into the idea of the american dream and the land of opportunity. She couldn't wait to discover it for herself. When lorena turned fifteen in one thousand nine hundred eighty four. She told her parents that she didn't want them to pay for big gains and yet party instead. She wanted to use that money to take a trip to the u._s. Lorraina arrived in washington d._c. In the spring when the cherry blossoms were in bloom she was elated to be there. She later said it was like another planet. Everything was just pink and beautiful. She told herself oh god. This is the place i wanna be a few years later. Lorraina got her wish after she graduated from high school in venezuela. She obtained a student visa to study in the united it states. Her parents allowed her to enroll in a community college in the northern virginia suburbs of washington d._c. They're lorraina stayed with the castro's his family friends who were also immigrants from south america blue. Marina didn't speak much english so she enrolled in e._s._l. Classes she also got a job working as a nanny for a woman named janet basuki soon after she took a position as a manicurist at a salon owned by misbehave sudi the castro family like laurynas was strict and religious while living with them she was expected to follow a curfew and bring angus chaperone on dates. Lorraine didn't seem to mind the sheltered life but it might not have been to her benefit before i continue with llerena psychology ecology please note. I am not a licensed psychologist or psychiatrist but i have done a lot of research for the show. Dr richard site a wig a professor of neurology at george washington university stated that protecting children from the realities of the world can hamper their ability to learn from misfortune his fortune and develop the resilience that makes negotiating adult life easier in recent years. Marina admitted that she was very immature. In her early early adulthood she didn't have the capacity to make responsible decisions or handle the consequences of such she later said i was naive about many things. The castros had two daughters and several nieces around laurynas age and the young women were permitted to go out and socialize is together in september of nineteen eighty eight. They went dancing at an enlisted men's club located in the marine corps base at quantico virginia at at the party nineteen-year-old llerena enjoyed herself several men asked her to dance but only one young man came to sit at her table wearing still struggled with english but the man nevertheless trying to hold a conversation with her the twenty one year old lance corporal introduced himself as john wayne bobbitt till arena and might as well have been a dream or a fairytale. She was a simple simple girl living out her big adventure in a foreign land. The only thing missing from the story was prince charming but tonight after after an evening filled with dancing and music a handsome man with beautiful blue eyes was holding her hand and telling her how pretty she was. She couldn't understand everything he said but he made it clear that he wanted to see her again. He asked for her phone number. Lorena llerena couldn't think of any reason to turn him down. It felt like fate all these years she had been waiting to discover the american dream a successful astle life with husband and family with john. She felt like all of that was possible. John called the castro residents the very next stay asking to take lorena out. They began to see each other regularly never alone because the castros wouldn't allow it but john would come over to their house for dinner or to watch a movie other times llerena in john went out for ice cream and companied by one of the castro daughters. Llerena later said that the cash showgirls didn't like john because he frequently forgot his wallet leaving lorraina to pay the bill when they went out their mother irma <hes> noted that when the pair planned date he seemed incapable of showing up on time. Irma later said that he didn't strike her as a responsible young man. Dan marino wasn't bothered by any of this at all if john behaved a little carelessly. She didn't believe it was on purpose. She it was too infatuated with him to worry about these flaws she thought he was good looking and charming and she was impressed by his military service. Lorraina boss misbehave. Sudi said it was like a high school romance to nineteen year old lorena. John was tom cruise. Merano was deeply in love with her new suitor. Even though they didn't have much in common she soon learned that john had experienced a very different different kind of life than she had and interviews he has been open about the abuse he suffered as a child stating that his father was an alcoholic who regularly beat him his brothers and his mother when he was spirit young around three or four. His father left the family. John's mother had a breakdown after his father walked out and some reports indicate that she abused drugs. John also said his family had no money and they were forced to live in a crime ridden ghetto or he claims they were often the victims of racially motivated violent attacks when he was still a small child. John and his two brothers were sent to live with an aunt and uncle. John had limited minute contact with his mother. After the move dr sherry hamby a research professor of psychology at swannee. The university of the south stated that the people who grow up exposed to domestic violence are more likely to be in violent relationships as adults or teens about twice as likely in many studies. He's in addition physicians. Martin are hecker and williams smock reported that children who witnessed domestic violence may believe that violence is a reasonable reasonable way to resolve conflict but it can be difficult to predict how a child's exposure to violence will affect leader behavior medical. Call researchers let go rock avec fell. Sir of the university of maribor school of medicine noted this in a recent paper. She stated that some study support support the notion that growing up in an aggressive family increases the probability of being a victim of spouse abuse whereas other studies have provided support for the notion that growing up in an aggressive home increases the probability of being a perpetrator of spouse abuse. What is clear is that children who experienced variance or witnessed domestic violence often suffer long term consequences into adulthood. John said that he enjoyed a happy childhood. After moving again with his extended family in a separate interview however he claimed that he and his brothers were molested by an uncle during this time by some accounts since john also had difficulties in school due to a learning disability and attention deficit disorder but he was able to graduate from high school in nineteen eighty seven twenty year old. John joined the marine corps. John said that his military career blunted his ability to feel empathy saying because emma combat marine. I'm trained trained not to feel emotions. It's really hard for me to understand a person who has a lot of feelings. He later claimed that his marital problems with llerena were partly caused by his lack of sensitivity but this didn't seem to be a problem at the start of their relationship. Llerena was just happy to have his attention. Then after about ten months of dating twenty two year old john and twenty year old lorena were married a justice of the peace performed the legal legal ceremony on june eighteenth nineteen eighty nine the couple settled into a small studio apartment in manassas virginia out of the castro's home home and no longer burdened by chaperones and restrictions. John and lorena could finally build an intimate relationship together as husband bend and wife. They seemed happy together but that was quick to change. 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Laurino wanted too much too fast johnson. That llerena was angry that he could not provide more for her to her. The american dream meant being successful and having a big house bull arena told a different story. She was concerned by john's behavior savior very early in their marriage. She has said that the first cracks began to appear just a few weeks after they moved in together during the july a fourth holiday john lorena took a trip up to niagara falls to visit john's family according to llerena. John didn't tell her that his family had planned planned a special wedding reception and picnic at their local church. The newlyweds arrived at delete missing the celebration when they got there everyone everyone was furious. It was the arena's first introduction to john's family all she could say was i'm sorry i didn't know and after staying in niagara for three days. John and lorena returned to manassas. They did not go back alone. John's cousin todd bairo accompanied them. John told lorena that his cousin was going to live with them for a while. Lorraine was upset. Todd was a stranger to her. She tried to tell john's family that they lived in a tiny studio apartment without any furniture. She felt that they weren't in a position to host guests below. Rina said her husband didn't care todd was going to move in with them whether she liked it or not. Soon after marina ena found drug paraphernalia in their apartment she then discovered that todd was a convicted felon and addicted to cocaine and even bigger occur problem was todd's influence on john while he stayed with them. The two men went out drinking nearly every night. She said that about a month into their or marriage. She asked to join the men on one of their nights out according to lorena the group tried to go to a club called chelsea's in washington d._c. But they were turned away because they're tired. Didn't that the dress code. They decided to go to another bar. We're taught in john drink beer and took several shots. What's when it was time to go home. They all return to the car and john got behind the wheel. Lorena recalled that john sped down. <music> is sixty six at over ninety miles per hour recklessly weaving across lanes other drivers beep their horns in veered to get out of their way. Hey at one point. She was so afraid they were going to crash. She grabbed the steering wheel. According to lorraina that's when john on punched her. She started to cry as john screamed obscenities at her todd sitting in the backseat. Simply nodded in approval full at johns tirade. Lorraina reported that when they got home john dragged her to their apartment and began to kick her slap her and pull our hair. A security guard officer francis heard the disturbance in came to the apartment. When john opened the door his demeanor changed changed completely secondly he grew quiet and got his temper under control officer francis saul arena crying and asked her if she had anywhere else she could go. She told him she was leaving but she was too embarrassed to go to a friend's house. She didn't want anybody to know what had happened. Instead she drove to the parking lot of this along where she worked and slept in her car. John and his cousin todd remember that night differently. They confirm lorena story. The three of them tried to go to a dc nightclub chelsea's and they were turned away because john was wearing sneakers. Batat said let lorraina became enraged when the bouncer wouldn't let them in. He claimed she punched unscratched john across the face. Todd said llerena continued to attack john when they got home. He did not mention a visit from officer francis. He said that he left them alone in their apartment and waited in a parking lot for them to calm down then he came back inside and went to bed after the incident. Lorraina tried to talk to john to communicate that it was unacceptable to hit her. She said that john kind of apologized which which gave her hope that she had gotten through to him about a month later. The couple took a weekend trip to ocean city maryland. They brought taunton long as well as laurynas friend and coworker terry mccumber. The group was walking along on the beach when john thought he heard a man whistle at the women he grew furious. Lorena said john grabbed her by the hair and pulled her to their hotel. Terry mccumber confirmed arenas account of the trip horrified by the way john tree llerena. She yelled at him to stop but john ignored her and told the women that they were going home. John on win back to the hotel to pack up their things he ordered the group into the car and they began to dr terry said that on the drive home she witnessed john hit and punch punch lorraina while she cowered in the passenger seat terry again screened john to stop but he wouldn't listen. He told terry that if she didn't shut up he'd leave her on the side of the highway. John denied that he hit lorraine during this trip but he admitted that he became angry with her. He said that that while he was driving through traffic llerena and terry were sitting together in the back seat looking out the window and flirting with men they saw in the cars passing by them on the highway away. He did not explain why he perceived their behavior to be flirtatious. He recalled feeling angry and ocean city but claimed that he didn't remember her any other details of the trip. After they dropped terry off and returned to their apartment john continued to beat lorraina until she fled the the apartment she stayed with terry that night but she returned the next day jason b whiting professor of marriage and family therapy at brigham young university university cited religious and family pressure as one of the most common reasons that women stay in abusive relationships in the two thousand twelve study by associate associate professor of psychology at brigham young university new wakayama walkie research suggested that social stigma and fear of being judged often deter victims from leaving their abusive spouses at that point lorena and john were still newlyweds only married a few months. She did not want to admit her marriage was already. A failure divorce also went against her catholic believes so she stayed with john. She was pleased when his cousin todd finally moved out of their apartment a few weeks later but john in lena's lives did not improve <music> but laurynas account john lost his temper and beat her at least once a month especially when he was drinking she felt particularly terrified when he started to choke her robbing his hands around her neck and digging his thumbs into her windpipe llerena co workers reported regularly seeing bruises bruises on her arms neck and face around the same time. John and lorena moved into a new house with more space. John said the move was laurynas idea and arena said it was john's. Both of them have since called the move a mistake since the house cost more than they could afford worries about money added to their tension then in the spring of nineteen ninety twenty one year old lorena became pregnant. Llerena couldn't understand how her marriage had gone so wrong. She tried to talk to john but nothing she said could make him understand when when she explained how much she was hurting her he either laughed or became angry. Lorena couldn't remember the last time she felt anything positive until now but nothing not even john could take away the joy. She felt being pregnant. She had always wanted to be a mother. In fact she pictured herself. Eventually having three children a family just like the one she had grown up in she had reservations about starting a family with john but for better or worse he was her husband and john was close with his own family. He always enjoyed spending time with his brothers and cousins. Perhaps lorena thought he would be pleased to have a family of his own. Lorena clung to that hope having a baby would certainly change everything about their lives. Perhaps it would also change john and to a different kind of of man but when lorraina told john about the pregnancy he was furious. He didn't wanna child and they couldn't afford one. He berated her grabbed a phone book and found a listing for a women's clinic lorraine ascent. John insisted she have an abortion john. John denied this saying that they came to a mutual decision to end the pregnancy because neither of them were ready to be parents but lorraina denied that she would ever have come to this decision on her own and win strongly against her catholic faith twenty one year old arena terminated her pregnancy in mid june of nineteen ninety. She said she was distraught. Not only because she wanted to have the baby but also because john taunted her before the procedure telling her that it would be extremely painful and that she would not receive any anesthesia lorraine became severely depressed after the abortion listen. She didn't wanna talk to john or be anywhere near him in response. She said he began to rape her. John's behaviour escalating llerena started to fear for her life. They had a particularly terrifying altercation in late nineteen ninety one morning while john was backing out of the garage. Lorraina approached the car. John had hidden her car keys before for leaving so she followed him out to ask him where they were. As llerena stood beside the car john flung the driver's door open it hit lorraina raina and knocked her to the ground he then careened the car out of the driveway and raced away without stopping to see whether she was all right. He didn't notice that when lorena fell down her clothes caught on the bumper she managed to untangle herself before he sped off but john came close to dragging ragging her behind his car. Lorraina felt like she might have been killed when she went back inside. After this incident she saw a list of emergency agency phone numbers taped to her refrigerator including the contact information for marine corps helpline. She decided to call and was connected to a military social worker in an interview with the social worker. John denied that he abused his wife but when asked to fill out a questionnaire he circled categories oris on the report sheet indicating that he had threatened to hit or throw something at her pushed carried restrained grabbed or shoved her drove drove recklessly to scare her through her bodily and hit her or tried to hit her with something john later said that he didn't remember remember filling out the form or even speaking with the social worker he did say that he sometimes push lorraina or restrained her because he claimed she sometimes tried to hit him. When they fought he objected to this because as he put it. It's not ladylike to strike out. Although john was questioned by the marine corps nothing came of the interview. There was no follow up. This was perhaps because john was due to be discharged. From the military the following month lorraina said that throughout nineteen ninety one john's beatings continued and became more frequent on several occasions twenty one year old raina place place calls to nine one one to report the abuse but the police really knew how to help her saying they didn't have the training to advise a victim only once did one of her reports result in an arrest in february of nineteen ninety-one lorraina call nine one one after john punched her in the face ace and twisted her arm when the responding officer arrived he noted that lorena had sustained visible injuries to her elbow lip and foot. John was arrested and charged with assault and battery. John pleaded guilty to these charges but his conviction was never recorded. The core records indicate that the case was dismissed after six months after john completed the judges condition of attending counselling it would not not be the last time police were called to handle violent incident between john and lorena bobbitt coming up. We'll talk about the final years of the bobby marriage and the night that preceded their permanent separation now back to the story in the spring of nineteen ninety-one twenty three year old john wayne bobbitt and his wife twenty one year old arena had been married for nearly two years for the entirety of their marriage lorraina claim that john physically and emotionally abused her. She was not not silent about the abuse. She told customers at the nail salon where she worked who asked about her bruises. Many of these customers were horrified by what they heard but did nothing. She told neighbors one of them gave her pamphlets on domestic violence and another offered her a place to stay lorraina declined the offer. She wasn't ready to leave yet even if she was she thought it would be too easy for john defined her lorena arena and john occasionally attended church services at bethlehem baptist church one sunday llerena told the pastor there that her husband was hitting her. The pasture spoke to john telling him to stop. He leader recalled that john had no response. She told medical professionals dr inman treated lorena for a respiratory infection. She noted that lorena seemed agitated and nervous. She was either ventilating. Dr ayman asked her whether she was experiencing stress and the rain responded that she was anxious because her husband meet her have sets without her permission. The doctor advice lorraina to call protective services at times. John was also open about his behavior an acquaintance. It's related time. They were hanging out with a group of men talking about women in that conversation confirmed by others john brag that he enjoyed having being forcible sex the friend recalled he said that he liked to make girl squirm and yell and make them bleed and yell for help lorraine azeem desperate for help but the one thing she wasn't willing to do was end her marriage at that point she still believe that divorce would be immoral failing against her catholic faith but by the summer of nineteen ninety-one even the appearance of a marriage between john and marina was rapidly disintegrating according till arena. John started sleeping with other women. She said he often stole money from her purse i to fund his dates. John rarely had money of his own dispend. After his discharge from the marine corps he struggled to find and keep the job. The couple relied almost entirely on the arena's income as a manicurist but she didn't make enough to pay their bills. Their cars were repossessed zest and their house was foreclosed on sometime in the summer of nineteen ninety one in order to keep up with the bills and and get her car back. Lorraina began embezzling money from the neil salon. She wrote up false tickets for the customer. She served overcharging them and kept the difference. She did this for several months when she eventually confesses to john he was furious the agreed she should come clean into her boss. Jonah basuki miss basuki was angry but she had known lorena for several years and she understood her desperate situation relation instead of firing her she dunk chlorine as commissions until all the money she'd stolen was repaid with financial strain and john's infidelity ability a constant source of tension. The couple separated in october of nineteen ninety one after two years of marriage john move back to niagara falls falls to stay with his family. Marina moved back in with a castro's. The couple remained apart for nearly a year but they stayed in touch by telephone both seemed interested and reconciliation despite everything that had happened between them. John was still arenas. I love she admitted committed. I was scared to meet somebody else. A two thousand three study published in the journal of family violence found that leaving an abuser tends to be a process process rather than a discrete event and can take several years on average. A victim leaves air abuser seven times before the separation is permanent terminent in september of nineteen ninety two twenty four year old. John returned virginia. He said he lorraina wanted to try to start over again and work on their marriage. They moved into the maplewood park apartment complex and manassas according to lorraina. The abuse resumed immediately after they were reunited. Llerena said that by the start of nineteen ninety three john beat her at least twice a week by may llerena finally seemed to recognize that their relationship was beyond repair around this time. John told her that his friend robert was moving into their one bedroom apartment and after the experience with todd lorena was weary about having more men's danner home but john didn't give of her choice at this point. Lorena thought about getting a divorce when she brought it up to john. He told her she could leave but reminded her that he knew where she worked. He would always be able to find her even if their marriage was over according to lorena john told her that divorce divorced people usually stay friends and continue to have sex given his past behavior arena took this as a threat he would continue to to rape her even if they split up as the abuse continued. Lorraina had the idea to hide a tape recorder in her purse. She thought a tape tape. John be reading her might be helpful in divorce proceedings ba- john discovered the tape while trying to take money from her purse and he flew into a rage. The bobbitt's downstairs neighbors later said they heard a loud argument with someone banging in running around. She heard lorena screaming at john to give back her purse. First lorena said the john grab the tape and flushed down the toilet then. She said john raped her. Lorraina tried to fight him off. She scratched his face leaving a gouge in his cheek but he overpowered her. Lorraina reached a point where she didn't want to salvage things her life with. John was a nightmare and she just wanted it to be over over the next few weeks six. She moved things out of the apartment. She told neighbors she was donating clothes and furniture if they wanted to come by and take what they liked. It seemed that she was finally leap preparing to walk out of her marriage. On saturday june nineteenth nineteen ninety-three marina ran into a neighbor diane hall. She told diane that she was moving out and looking for new place to live the next day. John's friend robert johnston arrived to stay with the bobbitt's robert noted that lorena was moving boxes out of the apartment. He said the couple seemed strained and that they were ignoring each other on monday june twenty-first lorraine and and went to the prince william county courthouse. She filled out paperwork to obtain a protective order against her husband. She was worried about what john had said that he would tracker record down even if they split up at the courthouse clerk helped her fill out the paperwork then let her know it would take some time to type up and enter the order into the computer system. Lorraina told him that she couldn't stay but that she might return on wednesday to complete the process she may we have decided to wait because she had not yet found her own apartment and was still living with john. Lorena might have realized that if she filed the protective order that day they would have had to separate immediately before she was ready to move out the next morning. John robert were gone when lorraine awoke up john john had gotten a job unloading trucks at food warehouse and secured robert temporary work there as well lorraina went to work at the nail salon as usual when when she came home the men were still out john was supposed to work a second job that evening as a host a nightclub but he was told it was a slow night and he wasn't needed. He and robert decided to go out for drinks instead lorraina. Meanwhile had a quiet night at home. She visited with her downstairs. Neighbor ella jones and talked about her marriage. Miss jones had overheard several incidents of violence and she was worried about lorena. When arena opened up about the abuse miss jones told her that she could come spend the night at her place but she was an elderly woman with several health problems and arena did not want to make more trouble for her. She thinks miss jones for the offer then she went back to her apartment and went to bed after drinking taking several beers. John robert left the bar around one thirty a. m. They had a meal at a denny's restaurant then returned to the maplewood park apartment around on three a._m. In the early hours of wednesday june twenty third llerena said that she woke up to find her husband on top top of her he had ripped off the shorts and underwear she was wearing and forced himself onto her. She said she tried to cry out but he shoved his tongue so far down her throat. She thought she was going to vomit. She kept shaking her head no but he ignored her and raped her afterward the word. He pushed her away arena said she cried and asked him why he did this to her. He told her to leave him alone and let him sleep sleep. Lorena pulled on her clothes and got out of bed. Her head roiled as unwanted images flashed through her brain. She couldn't and stop the barrage of memories. The first time john hit her kicked her choked her and all the times after hundreds druids of instances seared into her mind. She tried to calm herself down to stop her body from shaking to stop the pictures from flooding through her brain but it was impossible. She was so tired and angry. She had reached her limit. She was desperate to escape to be rid of john but it seemed impossible the whole he had on her felt like a heavy cloak on her shoulders. She couldn't simply shrug it off. It suffocated her. She felt terrified that she would never ever be free. Llerena went into the kitchen. She thought a glass of water might help settle her nerves. As she opened the refrigerator. The kitchen filled with light lorena. Turn towards the counter to grab a glass instead. The first thing she saw was a knife she reached out and wrapped her fingers around the handle. It felt smooth and cool in her hand. When she returned to the bedroom. She took the knife with her. Thanks again for tuning into crimes of passion. We will be back wednesday with the next episode on john and lorena bobbitt. We'll discuss halloween a- ended her marriage and the trials and media storm that came after you can find more episodes of crimes of passion as well as all of our casts other shows on on spotify or your favorite podcast directory. Several of you have asked how to help less if you enjoy the show. The best way to help is to leave a five star review. Don't forget to follow us on facebook and instagram at podcast and twitter at podcast network. 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"Black Sheep" - Marjorie Congdon

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"Black Sheep" - Marjorie Congdon

"I'm vanessa richardson introducing a new podcast original today in true crime. Today is wednesday august twenty first two thousand nineteen on this day in nineteen eleven. A man stole a painting and cemented. It's cultural legacy but what's remarkable about the heist is not the criminals lack of experience or the paintings incredible fame but how astonishingly easy it was for vincenzo perrugia to steal the mona lisa aw today and true crime podcast new daily show that relives the biggest true crime events from each day in history. Don't miss today's his full episode follow today and true crime for free on spotify and anywhere you listen to podcasts now due to the graphic nature of this woman's is crimes. Listener discretion is advised. This episode includes discussions of violence arson and murder that some people may find offensive would vise is extreme caution for children under the age of thirteen employees walls department store in duluth minnesota. We're used. I used to seeing twelve year old heiress marjorie congdon. She frequently came into the store alone for shopping sprees but today was different. Marjorie archery's mother fifty year old elizabeth congdon had called the store managers that morning to request. They stop selling to her daughter unless she was present sent. Apparently marjorie had a bad habit of stealing money out of elizabeth's purse when marjorie came into walls and attempted to buy several cashmere sweaters and apologetic cashier refused to ring them up. He explained that he had new instructions from management it wouldn't do to anger a wealthy client like elizabeth khandan marjorie simmered. She didn't like rejection. She also didn't mind making a scene. She screamed at the embarrassed employees who denied her service that night. After the store closed a small fire ignited in the basement the alarms alarms went off early enough that the fire department was able to put it out without damaging the store at the time nobody could determine what ignited the flames it was only later when marjorie condon's was outed as a serial arsonist that anyone made the connection between the girls tantrum and the dangerous dangerous fire. It sparked the picture a murderer a- gangster a thief. Did you pick your woman. We didn't think so- society associates associates men with dangerous crimes but what happens when the perpetrator is female every wednesday we examine the psychology motivations and atrocities falsities of female criminals hi. I'm stemming. I and i'm vanessa richardson and you're listening to female criminals apar- cast original. This is our first first of two episodes on marjorie khandan an alleged serial killer and arsonist. Many people in margie's orbit met inexplicable and suspicious just ends but she was never convicted of murder at podcast. We're grateful for you our listeners. You will allow us to do what we love. Let us know how we're doing reach reach out on facebook and instagram at podcast and twitter at podcast network and if you enjoyed today's episode the best way to help is to leave a five star review. Wherever ever you're listening it really does help. We also now have merchandise had podcast dot com slash merch for more information in spite of privilege childhood where she never wanted for anything. Marjorie khandan was a troubled the young woman as an adult. She married three times her second husband. Roger caldwell was eventually convicted of murder. After the violent death half of juries mother elizabeth roger long maintained that marjorie committed the murder herself and framed him some suspect that marjorie archery manipulated roger into killing her mother but this has never been proven like her husband. Marjorie was tried for her mother's murder but she was found found not guilty after her acquittal. Marjorie was a suspect in three other mysterious deaths but never went to trial. She was however however eventually convicted for fraud and multiple times for arson this week. We'll explore marjorie early. Life will break down the events that led to her first alleged murder and the subsequent trial will also explore how marjorie was then emboldened to escalate her violent behavior next next week. We'll explore marjorie third marriage and the string of mysterious deaths that followed her will delve into the factors that allowed marjorie to continue anew avoiding convictions even in cases where the evidence of her guilt appeared clear cut marjorie jury khandan was born on july fourteenth nineteen thirty two on the east coast possibly in new york although some sources say it was tar bro north north carolina little is known about her birth mother except that she was unwed when she was three months old she was adopted by thirty eight year old old elizabeth congdon and aris to a mining fortune. Some rumors suggest that marjorie adoptive mother and birth mother were the same woman women and the adoption was just a polite fiction to protect elizabeth's reputation but there's no evidence to confirm this elizabeth didn't inform any of her our family or friends of her adoption plans until after she came home to duluth minnesota with the baby girl she was unmarried which made her a surprising choice choice of adoptive mother in the nineteen thirties however she had resources air to the fabulous condon's tack night fortune elizabeth demonstrated straighten that she could easily provide for baby husband or not vanessa's going to take over on the psychology from here. Please note vanessa is not a licensed isn't psychologist or psychiatrist but she has done a lot of research for this show. Thanks sammy a paper titled. New family structure study <unk> by sociologist mark ragnarok compared single mothers to traditional two parent households as adults children raised by single mothers were more likely to need therapy less likely to pursue higher education and generally struggled to form healthy relationships while economic disadvantage was one factor actor in these children's lifestyle. Even children of financially stable mothers tended to suffer some ill-effects elizabeth raised marjorie in the massive glenshane shane mansion a sprawling three story thirty nine room home on the shore of lake superior in nineteen thirty five when marjorie was three elizabeth adopted again. Marjorie is new baby sister was named jennifer. Even as a child margery struggled to connect with other people she she wasn't close to her sister or other family members and she rarely made friends at school the staff at glen sheen found it strange that even as a young girl girl marjorie ignored her sister to play alone quietly what she lacked and social relationships marjorie made up for with possessions elizabeth showered gifts on her daughter and marjorie intern grew accustomed to always having what she wanted when she wanted it columbia columbia university's sunia luther explored how affluence impacted children of rich parents she found that depression anxiety and substance substance abuse were common even among children with economic advantage in fact in some cases wealthy children were more likely to have emotional problems or or break the law than traditionally at risk children as she got older marjorie grew into an emotional adolescent prone to outbursts by by the time she was twelve in nineteen forty. Four marjorie developed a habit of stealing cash from elizabeth's purse. When elizabeth caught onto her daughters thievery sorry she contacted local shops and ordered them to not sell anything to marjorie without her permission. Marjorie responded by learning to forge elizabeth signature. She signed a fake letter from elizabeth granting her permission and continued her shopping sprees. According to the american academy of child and adolescent lessened psychiatry. It's not uncommon for a child to steal as a cry for attention or to try to impress peers but when stealing becomes a pattern veteran of behavior as it did for teenage marjorie. It's often a sign of a deeper emotional disturbance marjorie severe emotional problems. Looms were all too clear by the time she was thirteen or fourteen. When elizabeth bought her a horse named greyhound at first marjorie loved to go on rides with with greyhound outside the glenn sheena state but after a few months marjorie was bored with the horse. She informed elizabeth that she no longer wanted to care for a greyhound days later. One of the condon's employees entered the stables to find marjorie forcefully shoving oats into greyhounds mouth. He said hey marjorie greyhound doesn't look all that hungary right now startled marjorie drop the oats she stared at the employee wide wide-eyed and nervous and then without a word marjorie ran out of the barn. The employees cleaned up the oats only defined several dozen pills mixed in with the horses food. He didn't know what kind of pills they were but the employees had his suspicions. Marjorie was trying to poison her horse. The employees immediately reported what he discovered to elizabeth but as was habitual for the heiress she heard him out out and then handled the matter quietly greyhound was placed with a new owner and the employees never learned if marjorie was confronted about her actions after the horse poisoning incident elizabeth enrolled marjorie in massachusetts boarding school initially marjorie grades improved but she still struggled to to make friends when marjorie returned home during a break. She resumed her habit of stealing money from elizabeth's purse. It was then that elizabeth realized she she needed to take more drastic steps to bring marjorie in line in nineteen forty nine. When marjorie was sixteen she was committed kansas's manning our clinic there. She received a diagnosis marjorie. Khandan was a sociopath according to the d._s._m. Sociopath is an outdated term for a condition now known as antisocial personality disorder or a._p._d. People with a p._d. Have few few or no reservations about lying cheating or manipulating others to get what they want. According to the mayo clinic the cause of a._p._d. Is unknown tone but it's believed to arise due combination of genetics and an unstable childhood environment a._p._d. Cannot be cured but the proper application application of discipline and therapy can help children manage and control their symptoms before they reach adulthood. Mental illness was even more taboo in nineteen forty-nine than it is today so even though marjorie was lucky enough to have a mother with the wealth and connections to get her proper treatment for her a._p._d. A._p._d. Elizabeth was too afraid of scandal to get marjorie the help she needed. She thought she could ignore her daughter's troubles and hoped they would go away on their own. Instead marjorie is mental illness would get worse and her erratic behavior would turn dangerous in in time. Elizabeth would pay for her mistake with her life coming up. 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You'll never run out of true. Crime content again. Crime never takes the day off and now neither does podcast follow today in true crime for free on spotify and anywhere you listen to podcasts now back to the story in nineteen in forty nine after a childhood marked by petty crimes and violent outbursts sixteen year old marjorie khandan was diagnosed with antisocial social personality disorder when her mother elizabeth learned of marjorie diagnosis she chose not to treat it wanting to avoid scandal in one thousand nine hundred fifty eighteen year old marjorie enrolled in washington university in st louis there. She met twenty four year old insurance executive with declan roy. They were quickly engaged on june. Thirtieth nineteen fifty one dick and marjorie were married in the glenn sheen mansion. Marjorie injury gave birth less than a year later. She threw herself into her role as a mother and housewife for years after her marriage her home in minneapolis capless was in a constant state of renovation as marjorie personally replaced all the fixtures and repainted all the walls. It wasn't enough to have the perfect. Thome marjorie also needed to present the perfect family to the world. A friend explained her children were always dressed like out of a magazine ad starched starched and pressed but behind the scenes marjorie was frantic about holding together the picture perfect family and maintaining appearances was expensive dick modest salary increased when he was promoted to management at his insurance company in addition on her twenty fifth birthday in nineteen nineteen fifty. Seven marjorie gained access to the trust. Her mother set up for her. Even still marjorie spending exceeded her means on one on occasion. Marjorie lied to dick when he confronted her with a credit card bill. She blamed some of the larger charges on her mother but when dick contacted elizabeth elizabeth she denied march claims. She had her own fortune. She didn't need to borrow money from her daughter. In fact it was decidedly the other way around don't several times over the years elizabeth gifted dick large sums to help him make ends meet and while he struggled to stay afloat financially dick continued to lose patience with marjorie extravagant spending and her lies about where the money went by nineteen sixty marjorie and dick had been married nine years and had seven children. It was then that twenty-eight-year-old marjorie decided she wanted to redecorate their home with authentic. Then take eighteenth century antiques dick refused. They didn't have the money a few weeks after this conversation dick and the children came home after after marjorie had been alone in the house. They were astonished to find that all of their furniture had been ripped apart. Marjorie claimed that the family dog had done the damage but it was clear to dick that someone had made clean cuts with a knife despite dick's doubts about marjorie story he stood by and while she filed a claim with their insurance company with the payout marjorie redecorated in her preferred theme eighteenth century antiques in nineteen sixty two thirty year old marjorie became obsessed with competitive figure skating she enrolled all seven of her children in skating lessons and the families debt exploded as marjorie purchased equipment and costumes and traveled all over the state for competitions. Just as marjorie margerie had been fixated on her house. She was also consumed by her children's competitive edge. She permitted her children to cut class to get in more practice this time when the school threatened to charge them with truancy she allegedly bribed the administrators additionally she harshly heckled other competitors others who rivaled her own children's success on one occasion a young girl skates went missing right before she was supposed to compete against marjory daughter water another time a front runner skater was in a severe accident after someone allegedly tempered with his skates dulling the edge so oh he'd have less control in both instances marjorie children's secured victories after their competitors were eliminated through all all this march or is husband dick grew to believe that the competitive skating was harming his children. He worried that they were taking the wrong lessons for marjorie. Is this cutthroat tactics. He also suspected that some of his children wanted to quit but feared saying so because marjorie would lash out as time went on dick grew increasingly convinced that marjorie didn't have her children's best interests at heart on april twenty ninth thirty nine thousand nine hundred seventy one after twenty years of marriage dick filed for divorce. Marjorie was thirty nine. She couldn't imagine losing in her pitch a perfect family and having to rebuild everything from scratch shortly after the divorce marjorie and dick's house caught fire and and burned to the ground an extensive investigation led the police to suspect marjorie had burned it down herself but they couldn't charge her due to a legal loophole loophole. Marjorie never filed an insurance claim and at the time there was no law against destroying her own property so long as she didn't financially benefit n._f._l. From it after marjorie lost her home she relocated to colorado by this point. Most of her seven children were adults but four teenagers teenagers continued to live with her more family struggles would soon follow marjorie adopted mother. Elizabeth congdon suffered a severe stroke at the age of seventy one. She survived but the right side of her body was completely paralyzed. In november of nineteen. Seventy-three marjorie went to visit her mother. She brought a jar of homemade marmalade with her. This was an odd choice of a gift as elizabeth was diabetic and couldn't eat that something has sugary as marmalade but marjorie insisted that elizabeth share marmalade sandwich with her when elizabeth declined citing her dietary restrictions marjorie pushed the issue. Finally elizabeth's nurse intervened. She didn't want to fight break out so she assured elizabeth that it was okay to eat. One small sandwich marjorie prepared the sandwiches and then sat and ate with her mother after the meal and a brief conversation shen marjorie left. She took the remaining marmalade with her that night. Elizabeth slipped into a coma when her nurse arrive the next morning she was frightened to find that elizabeth what wake up by the time a doctor arrived elizabeth was awake but confused fused her blood pressure and pulse were dangerously low. The doctor took a blood sample to try to determine what had caused the episode tests showed that elizabeth elizabeth suffered from an overdose of tranquilizer called m- appropriate elizabeth's nurse remembered marjorie insistence that elizabeth eat a marmalade sandwich but by now the sandwiches and the marmalade were long gone and there was no way to test for poison marjorie must have been devastated stated to learn of elizabeth's recovery. She even reportedly told a friend she was disappointed not to receive her greatly needed inheritance for for her entire life march had blamed elizabeth for all of her problems. She believed she'd be free with elizabeth's death. Dr donald w black of the university of iowa carver college of medicine explained in an interview that people with a._p._d. Tend to externalize guilt it even when caught doing something wrong a person with a p._d. Will blame their victims for creating a situation where the wrongdoer feels compelled to harm arm them while she grappled with her mother's recovery the divorced marjorie also concluded that she didn't like being single. She missed being a housewife housewife. In nineteen seventy six forty four year old marjorie started attending meetings hosted by parents without partners a group for single parents parents there she met roger caldwell roger was a raging alcoholic and his uncontrolled drinking was a major factor in his first divorce. Worse it also led him to lose custody of his children. Marjorie and roger had both weathered failed marriages and found a kindred spirit in each other day married on march twentieth nineteen seventy six only two months after they met just as marjorie unhindered spending drove rover rift between her and her first husband soon marjorie and roger found themselves deep in debt their new marriage strained under financial financial pressure in addition marjorie grew fed up with rogers drinking in early june of nineteen seventy seven. She convinced a doctor to writer a prescription for a drug called antabuse. It's not clear what the official reason was for her prescription but marjorie didn't take the pills herself else anyway. Anti-abuse reacts poorly with alcohol. If a patient mixes the two hill experience symptoms that are very similar to a heart attack and the reaction can be fatal every morning. Marjorie made roger take anti-abuse with his breakfast. He knew that if he drank while he was was on the medicine he would get very sick and that he might die the pills gave him the extra incentive he needed to finally get sober at least for a few weeks with rogers drinking problem temporarily solved marjorie turned her attention to her money issues on june sixteenth ninth nineteen seventy seven forty five-year-old marjorie hired an attorney to investigate legal issues related to the communist state marjorie wouldn't wouldn't inherit until elizabeth's death. Her attorneys hadn't heard of any sudden change in elizabeth's condition and they wondered at marjorie sudden interest in the state eight of her inheritance but they went to work per her instructions a few weeks later on june twenty fourth. Marta recalled another lawyer her. She wanted to update her will. If she died or was injured she wanted roger to receive half marjorie inheritance from elizabeth on june twenty-sixth roger flu minneapolis at the airport. He rented a car. Then allegedly drove two and a half hours north to duluth. They were elizabeth lift that night. An intruder broke a window and elizabeth condon's home. The sound didn't wake elizabeth and the intruder cruder was able to enter the house unimpeded as they climbed the stairs to elizabeth's bedroom. The intruder encountered elizabeth nurse velma a piano law on the staircase when they spotted one another the intruder attacked velma striking her with a candlestick the blow left velma must stunned. She fell onto a window seat and sat down but her attacker didn't relent they struck her again and again. Ultimately bludgeoning joining the nurse a total of twenty three times with the candlestick once velma was neutralized. Her attacker crept into elizabeth's bedroom mm-hmm where she was asleep. She may have awakened but she didn't have an opportunity to scream before. The intruder pressed satin pillow over over her face. After killing the old woman the intruder raided the jewelry box they stole several pieces of jewelry and an antique gold coin then they drove away from glenn she mansion in velmos car didn't stop driving until they reached the minneapolis airport parking lot the next morning june twenty seventh elizabeth's day nurse mildred garvey arrived to relieve velma the first thing she saw when she entered the mansion. Shen was velez legs hanging off the window seat on the stairs. This didn't alarm mildred. She assumed the night nurse had laid down for a brief nap but as she got closer mildred realized that her first instinct was dead wrong barefoot and covered in blood velma what isn't just napping mildred lifted velez arm to take her pulse she could already tell velma was dead from her clammy skin and limp arm mildred ran into elizabeth's room to check on her. She confirmed that elizabeth to had died during the night. Her bedsheets were disobeyed suggesting a struggle mildred sprinted back down the stairs just in time to see elizabeth's made arriving for the start of her shift mildred announced. That misconduct was dead. This didn't surprise the maid who was well aware of elizabeth's advanced age and health issues. She said heart attack attack. Probably mildred replied. No she's been murdered and velma is dead to as the made began to panic. Mildred rid dialed nine one one to report what she'd seen soon. The police arrived the same morning. Elizabeth's youngest adopted daughter forty-two-year-old two year old jennifer received a phone call that her mother had been murdered the first words out of her mouth were marjorie did it next will explore the investigation into elizabeth condon's death now back to the story on june thirtieth nineteen seventy seven forty five-year-old marjorie khandan caldwell her sister jennifer and other mourners hosted at a private service at glenshane mansion while the family wanted to keep the funeral small press gathered outside the estate eighty three year old elizabeth is a bit condon's murder was a big story and reporters wanted to catch whatever details they could about the family's grief meanwhile the police were closing in on marjorie husband roger caldwell as their top suspect. The police knew he'd flown to minnesota the same day. Elizabeth was murdered third. They had also intercepted a mail envelope postmarked from duluth and address to roger. It contained the gold coin that had gone missing from elizabeth's home. The envelope was printed with the logo of the radisson hotel. The same hotel roger checked into the night. Elizabeth died taken more compelling. The police were able to pull a fingerprint from the envelope that matched rogers marjorie and rogers stayed in minnesota at least a week week after elizabeth's funeral on july fifth nineteen seventy seven the police searched their hotel room at the holiday inn in bloomington police found on jewelry and several other items that fit the exact description of what had gone missing from elizabeth's room. It was almost a little too easy to connect roger to elizabeth's death. Meanwhile roger began drinking again. Even while he continued to take anti-abuse it had been too much to expect the raging alcoholic alcoholic to quit cold turkey especially while he dealt with the stress of elizabeth's funeral on the evening of july sixth one night after the police. Lee searched rogers hotel room. He collapsed and checked into a hospital room. The next day july seventh roger went from a hospital bed straight to handcuffs. He was charged with murdering elizabeth camden while police zeroed in on roger as a suspect marjorie children and her sister jennifer had other suspicions in september nineteen seventy seven. The family filed a civil suit against marjorie. They charged her with killing elizabeth and demanded the entirety of her inheritance. Marjorie contested the charges launching launching what would become a multi year lawsuit but meanwhile she couldn't receive her greatly needed eight million dollar inheritance while she fought fought for her money. Marjorie remained broke and in debt after years of compulsive spending when rogers murder trial began his legal legal team argued that he was framed. They didn't have any theories about who done the framing but the evidence was clear. It made no sense to steal elizabeth's. It's jewelry take it home to colorado then carry it back to minnesota with him for the funeral the only reason to do that was if he'd intended for the police to find find the evidence or if someone else planted it in his room for the police to find rogers lawyers also questioned why roger would go to all the trouble of of killing elizabeth stealing a gold coin and then mailing it to himself leaving a paper trail. It made it a little too convenient for investigators tres to pin the crime on roger. The jury didn't buy the story about a conspiracy to frame roger. They found him guilty and sentenced roger turning to life sentences for his two murders. Marjorie was shocked when on july eleventh just three days after rogers conviction. Police arrived at her home with an arrest warrant from the beginning of his investigation chief prosecutor. John desanto always suspected that marjorie marjorie plotted elizabeth murder with roger as he explained in his autobiography. We always believed and the whole theory of the case was that she was the woman behind the man. Now that desanto had secured rogers conviction he wanted to go after the big fish he was convinced that marjorie had planted the damning evidence so her husband would take the fall and he was going to make sure marjorie didn't get away with crime in july of nineteen seventy-eight marjorie camden caldwell stood trial for two counts of murder and two counts of conspiracy to murder the press went wild over the new wrinkle in the case and marjorie discovered that she loved the attention they paid lead her in spite of her lawyers instructions not to give statements marjorie regularly chatted with journalists before and after her trial and during recesses the forty six year old mother was soon a favorite with the press and the jury marjorie baked chocolate cake and brought it to court to share with the lawyer on his birthday. She brought a knitting project from home which she worked on during the trial whatever was going on under under the surface on the outside. Marjorie looked like a harmless portrait of domesticity according to the mayo clinic people with a._p._d. Can be very very charming when they want to be as a result. They're often skilled. Manipulators quite adept at cultivating the image. They want to project outside of the courtroom. Marjorie lost some friends but others came forward to support her. She especially relied on wally and helen hagen a couple. She'd known for decades decades. Wally and helen never believed that marjorie could kill her own mother. Marjorie is murder trial lasted for four months at at that time the longest murder case in minnesota history on june twenty first nineteen seventy nine. The judge issued his verdict. Marjorie condon's was acquitted on all four counts of murder and conspiracy to murder the mild mannered cake baking knitting housewife had struck a court of sympathy with the jurors who couldn't bring themselves to convict such a sweet woman a study conducted by the university of nebraska's brian h bornstein bornstein and eddie green explained that jurors will often compare witness testimony to their own personal experiences and beliefs then when wayne conflicting information jurors will tend to sympathize with testimony and evidence that fits their own preconceived notions in marjorie case that meant that she was able to appeal to jers notions of femininity and motherhood she reminded jurors of the harmless women in their own lives and as a result it it seemed impossible that sweep marjorie contin caldwell could be murderer on june twenty-first marjorie stepped out of the courthouse a free woman when a reporter asked her how she would celebrate marjorie answered that she planned to go to white castle plenty. The of prosecutors weren't falling for her act but without a conviction. There was nothing more they could do. Officially marjorie was nothing but a harmless woman and who'd lost her dear mother to her husband's greed during the first five years of rogers prison sentence. Marjorie only visited him once. It's that would make sense if she really believed he'd killed her mother but in marjorie occasional statements to the press she continually emphasized that she believed he was innocent according to the d._s._m. Four people with a._p._d. Have little or no concern for the well being of others and are willing to lie or manipulate manipulate to get what they want people with a p._d. Rarely feel remorse for their actions in other words. If marjorie really did conspire with roger to murder elizabeth she didn't feel bad about it afterward nor did she feel any loyalty to roger now that he was of no use to her locked locked away behind bars. The date isn't known but at some point after her trial marjorie and her friend wally hagen began to have an affair where she wanted to forget her old life and start over again with wally but there were two problems. First marjorie was still legally married to roger caldwell caldwell. They weren't regularly speaking but marjorie never got around to filing for divorce. The second problem was that wally to was still married. Married and divorced simply wasn't an option for him. His wife helen had been diagnosed with alzheimer's disease in nineteen seventy nine after marjorie arteries trial concluded she'd relocated to assisted living where she had access to a full team of nurses and doctors one day helen's daughter. Nancy z. busied her at the assisted living facility. It was one of helen's good days and the pair sat together and chatted during their conversation. Helen voiced voiced her suspicions. That wally was having an affair with marjorie but nancy new the paranoia was one of the symptoms of alzheimer's so she ignored helen's lends concerns then on march twenty sixth nineteen eighty marjorie paid helena visit at some earlier point marjorie had convinced the staff after that she at forty seven years old was the daughter of sixty four year old helen so when marjorie arrived late in the evening to see her mother. The staff led her to helen's room without question during marjorie visit. One nurse noticed her feeding helen something out of a jar. The nurse didn't think anything of it at the time she had no way of knowing that seven years before marjorie had allegedly fed her mother poisoned marmalade malade that murder attempt had failed but marjorie had learned from her past efforts the morning after marjorie visit. Helen's nurses were unable to wake her. She was in a coma and unresponsive. They called the person listed as helen's primary point of contact marjorie worry but there was no answer. Nancy didn't learn of her mother's condition until ten thirty a._m. She was the third person to receive a call from the nursing home. After marjorie and wally both failed to answer the phone. Nancy was baffled by the news because her mother didn't have any medical conditions conditions besides alzheimer's there was no reason for the mostly healthy helen to slip into a coma without warning helen died on march thirtieth thirtieth nineteen eighty just four days after marjorie visit. Her autopsy report said that she died of pneumonia and dehydration the coroner's. I didn't perform a toxicology examination. Nancy was suspicious. I marge mother died right when marjorie needed the inheritance irritants and now after an alleged affair marjorie seemed to have eliminated the one rival for walis romantic attention. It seemed named unbelievable but nancy feared that her father was dating a serial killer. Thanks again for tuning into female. Criminals will be back wednesday with part two of marjorie story story and her further descent into criminality will explore the string of mysterious deaths and fires that followed marjorie during and after her relationship unshipped with wally and discussed the factors that allowed her to allegedly get away with murder. You can find more episodes of female criminals as as well as all of our casts other shows on spotify or your favorite podcast directory several of you have asked how to help us if you enjoy the show. The best way to help is is to leave a five star review and don't forget to follow us on facebook and instagram at park cast and twitter at par cast network. We'll see you next time. Female criminals was created by max. Cutler is a production of cutler media and is part of the podcast network. 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