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NBA Front Office w/ Keith Smith & Trevor Lane
"vince williams" Discussed on NBA Front Office w/ Keith Smith & Trevor Lane
"You're going to have, you're going to be able to play the yeast only 19 card like Celtics and Jason Tatum. And continue to do nowadays, even though he's 24. He's only 24. It's still the joke is that he's only 19, but we'll run with it. But yeah, I like the two. I thought that was a good get. There, but plenty more to come on the Lakers. I saw some, you know, we don't need a young project, but you kind of do. Yeah, it's not bad. Even if max Christie ends up 11th, 12, 13, 14, 15th guy on your roster, that's not a bad thing, right? You have them. A little lower on your eye, probably more 13 to 15. But lower on your offs are probably play some in south bay. Develop them and do your thing that they've done all right. Would that in the past? So by, you know, you need to at least sell young development products for sure. All right, the Memphis cruise from active night for the grizzlies. They had two first round picks. They flipped and moved and traded and did all sorts of stuff, and still finished with two players picked in the first round. But they also picked up a player in the second round and they picked up Danny Green kind of sorta we'll see. But anyway, what they did in the draft, Jake laravia, out of weak force, Ford with range, can do a lot of different things. Think of kinda Kylie Anderson, but obviously clearly much, much younger. I blew this on our live show, but he is younger than I initially thought. There were reports, apparently, somehow, something happened where Google had him. And that was wrong, and they found out just weeks before the draft and had to tell everybody like, no, no, no, no, no. He's not, he's 20. 'cause that matters in the draft. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. The 1999 birth year in his birth year is actually 2001. David roddy, too. The other guy, that's the guy that got with the pick from Philadelphia. Rugged forward scoring kind of guy he's kind of been the guy who's been great in college, but then those guys don't always translate to the pros, but Memphis has had success with those guys in the past, so he kind of like cam. And then they bought a pick from San Antonio with a future second and they got Kennedy Chandler. I'm a point guard. So I think what the grizzlies did was, oh, I'm sorry, and then Vince Williams, a wing out of VCU, one of the four seniors drafted. He went with the 47th pick. I guess his app might be more of a two way situation. But what Memphis did here was, by virtue of trading the Anthony Melton, and then replacing him with cheaper salary, they kind of protected themselves or opened the door if they decide Kyle Anderson, thanks for what you've done. Moving on, tires Jones, little expensive for what we want to do, moving on. They've kind of now added their depth behind those guys plus things up in Memphis, I don't know what you've seen or not. Maybe this is already out there, maybe it's not. They can pretty easily create in the range of about $23 million of cap space. Which is kind of terrifying. Yeah. How do they spend that on those?.

Game Theory Podcast
"vince williams" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast
"It's really tough because truth couldn't shoot, right? If he was like sub 20% from three or something like that, he was small. Unbelievable as a passer, but you get into workouts with bigger guards and you see the length and the size. It's harder to adjust. I don't know if that guy's there. Kenny Chandler's like a better shooter than Sharif was and I'll see him tumbling in far in the second. I don't know because if there was a guy I wouldn't put him in the top 20 or so of my board that felt really strongly about. Yeah, it feels like the drops have kind of already happened like if Kendall Brown is there 40 like that's not impossible, but I don't know if he's expected as like a mid first anymore. Well this is a hard one. I don't know, I think this is on your mock and not your draft guy and we covered this last year too is that the second round is a dice roll, right? There's a lot of two way contracts on non guaranteed stuff long term. So once you crack 30 though, there could be some actually savvy agents that say like we're good. We're going to slide down. So if Kendall Brown goes, I don't want to pick on him. If player X goes, it's starting to go 27th and go 40th. That might have been their own doing too. Like you don't have to overreact and say, I can't believe this guy slid so much. He may have split to his own self made decision of a team where he thinks he can go and earn minutes and get into rotation faster. Yeah. I'm going to take one real quick from Ellison or cot on Twitter. Vince Williams drafted or undrafted. Undrafted. I think that he fits right into this mix, right? In terms of like, look, Vince Williams is probably going to be on a two way to start next season. And whether or not that means drafted or undrafted, we'll see, right? I like Vince Williams. I had him as a priority two way guy for me. In the draft guide, as you can see, one of my top, I think, ten names, 12 names, something like that. Yeah, I like Vince Williams. And the shooting is interesting. He's a good defensive playmaker. Teams have some worries about what he'll look like whenever he's matched against quicker guards. I think he actually guards a little bit better up the lineup as opposed to down the lineup. But yeah, I like Vince Williams is an interesting dice roll as a two way, whether or not that means he gets drafted, I don't know. Yeah. Possibly, I would say no on drafted, but possibly yes on making splashes some relief. Someone has chocolate. Zach, you're up. So at trust the void wants to take a little bit of a step back and wants to know, what do you think so far about the G league preparing and helping these prospects get to the NBA? Matt, you go first. Great. I like it. I actually enjoy the program. I've been to their games in person. The biggest thing about the GB is they are prepared. It's the rubber is beating the road faster. And you better be ready..

WTOP
"vince williams" Discussed on WTOP
"Ended the month of January Here's Jeff claypot The Dow finished the day up 406 points The S&P 500 up almost 2% It was still the worst month for the S&P since March of 2020 losing 5 and a 5 and a quarter percent Money news in ten minutes on TLP Sports at 15 and 45 on All right Dave Preston what's new Well the question is how important is it to have a great quarterback Super Bowl 56 features a pair of first round quarterbacks starting for the 11th time and for the second time ever the starting quarterbacks of the big game are players taken first overall in the draft at last happened 6 years ago when Peyton Manning squared off against Cam Newton Denver won that year NBA wizards card Bradley Beal is out for the next two games due to a sprained wrist wizard on the road tomorrow against defending champ Milwaukee NHL capitals recalled defenseman Lucas Johansson from minor league Hershey and the Senate to the taxi squad They visit Pittsburgh tomorrow evening Men's college troops Maryland guard fats Russell hurt his wrist in Saturday's loss to Indiana his status for tomorrow's tilt with number 13 Michigan state somewhat uncertain auburn stays number one in the writers rankings tigers and Gonzaga are tied for first in the coaches poll which Ohio valley conference school do I have number 25 this week I've tweeted my ballot at DAV presto and the WTO P and the Atlantic ten VCU's Vince Williams junior has been named player of the week Taos Charles Thompson voted CAA player of the week tonight in the Mac Howard visits South Carolina state at 7 30 women's basketball Maryland is 17th in this week's writers rankings Dave Preston WTP sports All right thanks Dave up ahead on WTO P nationals park has something now no other Major League Baseball stadium has we'll explain for 46 Jackson Hewitt needs you to know.

WTOP
"vince williams" Discussed on WTOP
"Red Made 15 and rob wood fork All right Dimitri halftime a Capital One arena where the wizards lead the Houston Rockets 55 54 despite a rough start to the game turnovers and bad defense plagued the Wiz early on but they put together a much better second quarter as Bradley Beal led the way with 16 points 5 rebounds and four assists kentavious Caldwell Pope's 14 points on 6 of 8 shooting big help and Kyle Kuzma the only other wizard in double figures with 12 is despite missing all three of his tries from three point range and speaking of which and other NBA action Kyrie Irving has missed his first three shots in his return to the nets lineup but local product Kevin Durant with 16 points to pace Brooklyn in Indiana see what I did there Lance Stephenson off the pacers bench with 20 points already Down a level VCU They had a four point halftime lead add Dayton early in the second half there in front now of 39 33 Vince Williams junior leading all scores in the game with 11 points The Washington football team had a Wednesday practice for the final time this season one that's been pretty memorable for quarterback Taylor heinecke As hard as this season's been just you know the roller coaster of ups and downs COVID injuries off the field stuff It's been a dream come true I've wanted to start in this league since I was born So I wish it went a little bit differently but there's a lot to learn from and hopefully I'm here in the coming years We delve into whether he should be the quarterback in burgundy and gold moving forward in this week's episode of the D.C. sports huddle which is on the sports page on dot com or you can fire up that podcast wherever you prefer to get them Rob which work WTO sports Will you give us a small hint I don't think heineke will be here next year As a matter of fact I give a pretty big name option Oh good For them to go out and go get Well listen to that right away Robert I might even fire it up here in the studio as I'm anchoring I won't tell It's 8 17 We do have more snow in the forecast Maryland's governor says the state is working to get ahold of more rapid at home COVID test kits We'll.

Behind the Steel Curtain
"vince williams" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain
"The defense oleg. What didn't they already do like opportunity. I i'll i'll say i wanna see a what they continue to do with me. It's patrick because last year it was thrill edmund who was moving in and moving into difficult situations. They solve problems like when they had a match. Up mismatch rene problem. It was terrell edmund solvent latte that game when they were having trouble with cold beasley when they were having trouble with steph on digs. They were moving fitzpatrick to that spot. And they were keeping troll edmonds deep. So i'm very interested to see if they continue that with minka or make it becomes kind of that problem-solver position. Or if they you know kind of divert back and that was a one week thing where they really saw. Hey this is this is something. We can attack facing the bills that i'm looking forward to going forward from what i saw with what i think. He was a missile. He was a missile over the that bowl a few plays where he ran raw down into the the running back was a covet him. I believe he almost got to pick way was really close around the area. Mikhail was free rhyming and you look back on some of the film too and he can almost predict with that bulls go where the pie going before. It's even started so it gives me start troy vase but it gives me a little bit troy insight and how like for me like the decisive musician is my favorite position. I just love the idea that you can scan the whole failed. And if you've got ten blogs and other guys and you have one or wherever you wanna be matched up with if you can figure that quarterback where he's going to throw it. There's not a better feeling than picking off a quarterback that quarterback thinks. I have a touchdown. Run ritz you go all the way to the enzyme So make really sure it out for us. I recommend it's gonna be fun to see where they try them around if it's like slow cornerback safety. And he's speed to way. He's five ten yards away but he can be. He's going to use that veteran guys really growing into excellent. Pyeho tight the same question but you can choose anyone on the team on on the on the officer side of the ball. I mean i think if if teams are going gonna keep playing eight nine in the box. I think i think whether whether in remiss we gotta take shots we have. We have to be there to let them know. Okay you know we been kane and we will throw the ball down the field. So i think think more more shots more more to twenty yard air passes at least in office. I like to see like jeffrey said najah. Coming up the backfield maybe also wheel route it. Md you know. i. I'd like to see that As far as the defense what. I think i liked it. I'm looking forward to seeing whether it's this week. Or next week. I'm looking forward to seeing the insertion of karl joseph witherspoon or to the defense. I like my trade norwood has been able to do but that i think if you add some more experienced veterans today defense we can do even more you know i mean maybe maybe have joe also back in and make bring maker down in you know in into the into the slot position and just just witherspoon. Athleticism is lincoln high out there on the field. Also i think it's just gonna make us a better defense so when those guys come back into gives back we're going to be loaded. I love i love to hear that. Now the last question in this little segment jeff. What's the what's the big threat that you think that can blake that teams can exploit the steelers and something that we really need to work on. Otherwise we all losing thirty two nil. We always in these guys. What's something that we need to fix. Well we're still seeing in my thing. We're still seeing job. Acclimate to this defense. It took devon bush. Awhile to get used to vince williams. It took them a while to get used to mar when he first came in a last season. He only played with vince williams and they they were on the same page and they were credible together. So far early this season they're not standing out the linebackers like you said Devin bush looks fast. He looks healthy. That's the good news but they were really. They didn't seem on the same page. There seemed to be a lot of late communication between them and there seemed to be even some hesitancy especially from dose over It it doesn't seem like joe chauffeur's entirely comfortable in this defense yet which is a good thing for the future right. That's a good thing for when these guys get together this is going to be better But right now heading for the next couple of weeks. I would look for teams to go after. Joe devon bush and really test inside linebackers especially with emotions in some difficult coverage assignments. Try when you when you catch them in zone. Throwing three different routes coming through their zone and let them sort it out. Make sure that they know you know they they. They're both on the same page. That's i think you're gonna see teams. Think they can attack. Steelers is gonna be entrances resting to see how those guys respond. And i think we could see this week. When you've gotta darren waller and you've got Kenya gonna play. You know you you can. You can really attack the linebackers those guys. Yeah darah bowlers He's an amazing. Human is amazing supply'll while these look these really fun to watch the andros sweeter shutting down but tight anything that we can anything. That's a threat to the steelers. That can be exploited I think i don't disagree with jeffrey. I think schober. Bush still still have a lot to show us. But i think i think their lack of production less call in last week's game was more because again play. I mean buffalo stretches you out for four or five. Why so the the whole bunch of runs we only blitz time. So you know like they just weren't always in the action. They were kinda just playing their zone whether we heard their name on lamer not i think they i think they were a huge help in minimizing stefan digs in passing game just by playing their zones. In being where. There's supposed to be. I i did see some of the miscommunication and stuff like that. I think something. i think. Just cohesion with the offensive line. Is something that we could be exploited on still just because the because you know we. We have a young long inexperienced relatively going against a veteran. Along with the with the raiders with cries being nasa. And those guys. So you know those guys. Run some stunts and things like that. I think we. Maybe that's the place we can be exploited at. But you know i. I still kind of like the way they played in. We're only gonna get we're gonna take our love only going to get better with reps in in game you know in game experience so it's just it's just part of the journey the For me the only thing..

Behind the Steel Curtain
"vince williams" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain
"Same were the players involved and their personalities and how they on the team and all that stuff are involved a you can just sit there and look at their fit They would have been better off switching. Vince williams and joe schubert because joe chauve is a better fit in my opinion to be next to devin bush whereas what they wanted was more of a vince williams next two miles jack. So that gives you an idea. Why joe schubert is a great pickup for the dealers but also not the biggest loss for the jaguars because he didn't fit what they needed. So who is joe. Show over whether let's let's take a look at it real quick right Job has played a lot. He's been to a pro bowl and he's good across the board. There's not a lot of weaknesses when you look at his physical profile right when you look at his size his speed agility if you go back to the combine and look at those numbers. He's remarkably similar to roberts fillet. He's the same height they're roughly the same speed agility He's he was bigger. Then spelane coming out. When roberts plane came out of college he basically really needed hit an nfl weight room. And he'd right. So the difference. Between shelbert and roberts d'alene physically and their athleticism is very small schober. It's a bit heavier on his frame. Still i believe now than than Robert spelane is and that helps him in the run defense when you look at his film and you look at his stats. He reminds me of robert splaine. Just a little stouter against the run partly because he's a little bigger right if you look at their coverage stacks even if you look at their coverage stats from last season okay. Schober played a lot more then. Spelane did He was on the field for five hundred coverage snaps. Okay all this just just a disclaimer. All of these all these stats come from sports info info solutions Through their data hub tool. It's a free tool on the web. You can look that up but Joe show was on the field for five hundred coverage snaps where he wasn't rushing right where he was in coverage he was talking to forty. Two times gave twenty eight completions. Two hundred ninety three yards Came away with three interceptions. And one defended pass roberts blame played significantly less. He was on the field for one hundred. Fifty eight coverage snaps was targeted. Twenty three times gave up ten completions. For one hundred seventy yards had one interception three defended passes. Okay what does that mean. Well we can start with Robbers lane was targeted. Fourteen point six percent of his time on the field. Joe schubert eight point four percent us lane only gave up four point six five yards per target whereas joe shelbert gave up six point. Nine seven They both gave up right around ten yards per completion Splaine just had a much. Lower completion percentage against the shelbert dead. If you combine all of that you look at the non of yards. They gave up per cover. Snap roberts plane is point. Six seven yards cover. Snap joe schober is point. Five nine a little difference not ally there And spelane got two more passes went his way. He had one interception in roughly one third the snaps that joe schober got three but explain defended three other passes whereas joe schubert got to three hundred options and only defended so he both defended four passes. Which means blaine had a much. Higher percentage of targets that went his way that he enter the he. He broke up that he actually defected. Another part of splaine game that is considered one of his best attributes is his blitzing right. He does the. Ceo's call hug blitzing where he's on a linebacker that light or he's where he's a linebacker covering running back in man that running backstays in the block. He transitions into a blitzer. It's also the steelers deal with play action if you watch a play. Action pass and roberts is made up on the running back the minute. It looks like a play act like it looks like iran. He is charging that running back. He's going right for him and when he sees at the play action pass. He's still going for that running back. He's still going and they have to break off into coverage if the runningback changes routes Or if the running back turns to like help block someone else you blitz the quarterback if they turn him block you. Then you're match. You know you try. Beat him in and get in there. But that is how the steelers negate extra blockers when you keep an extra blockers to help block. T. j. watt cameron heyward steph onto it by debris alex smith when when you keep an extra guys to block those guys roberts blamed roberts d'alene rushed on fifteen point one percent of pass coverage of a pass plays. He was in on and he had an impressive. I mean ridiculously impressive. Forty two point nine percent treasury. That's incredible when he did a hug. Litz when he was that guy adding onto the blitz. he got pressure schober last year. rushed around eight percent of past about the past place and had a really good twenty three point three percent pressure rate. That's good splaine's better. So in coverage shelbert is a more proven a more reliable guy. The roberts spelane but if you look at joe schober and you look at roberts fling when he before his injury when he was playing his best. Football of two thousand twenty. You're talking about a very similar player. You're getting a very similar player again. Joe show bert is proven. He's done this year in year out and you may have heard The seals are talking about him wearing the green dot calling the defense. He's that guy that you want calling the defense before like. Oh does that mean devon bush. No it just means. This guy is better at devon bush than that specific skill. call the defense colin adjustment. Seen what the offense is doing. He's better than devon bush at that specific skill and really if he's better than he should do it right. Whoever's the best at it should do it if he's better than bush at that then yeah don't why would you have bush do it. Just because you're like oh bush was are. He's our number one linebacker. Well he's still our number one linebacker. Just joe chauffeur's gonna call the defense.

Behind the Steel Curtain
"vince williams" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain
"Of the cutting room floor. First half we went over. What we we did an update on players. I talked about in a previous episode and we discussed a bit about the inside linebacker position in coverage. And how we're going to judge. Preseason basic basically saying. Don't judge devon bush and roberts bullying too harshly for how they played in philadelphia inside linebackers put in situations where they are on an island with athletic tight ends or wide receivers are going to get the they are going to be the mismatch on the field. That's that's not how the defense works in actual games. So now we're going to talk about the inside linebacker position and we're going to start with the big news the dropped during the preseason game at philadelphia and that is the steelers. Acquisition of joe schubert If you if you don't know that the steelers traded sixth round pick. Jacksonville is paying half of his salary for the season and he also redid his contract. Move some money around If you if you want to know all the details of that goto behind the curtain dot com. David dave scofield Those great articles on that he does a great job breaking down how those contracts workout and how they impact team in the salary cap and all of that stuff but basically for less than two million dollars on the salary cap this season which is a tiny hit and a sixth round. Pick next year. The steelers got joe schober for this season. If they wanna keep him after the season there he's got some pretty big numbers is numbers are not small so Yeah it's it's. He's unlikely to be a long term solution unless he is really just that good that they said okay. He's he's worth paying. You know eight million. I think it is for twenty twenty two so for the steelers. Getting joe shelbert. And when you look at the deal people are saying well. Kevin colbert just absolutely flees the jacksonville jaguars on this deal and we wanna look at that. Because oftentimes when it's like whoa. How did we get a guy for this cheap. You end up finding out you know what you got him that cheap because he's just not that good or or you know your your overvaluing them you know. Maybe it's not just the other team undervaluing him. Maybe you're overvaluing him. So let's give why he went to jacksonville. invited fit. Jacksonville has a linebacker miles. Jack who's of top athletes absolute stud in his athleticism and he's also a really good coverage linebacker and he's good at running. Hit football what. He's not great at is taking on blocks and run stuffing. If you can force the play outside he's gonna write him down if you can you know if he's in coverage he's he's incredible really good linebacker in coverage so the jacksonville jaguars are looking at this. We need to pick up a run stop. We need a guy next to him that can take on. Those ron stuffing abilities while still being able you know to be in coverage some and so they went and grabbed joe. Schubert who with the browns had had really good numbers for high tackles tackles for loss. The great you know Pf grades against the run and it was also in coverage. They paid him a big contract to be the guy next to miles. Jack who will allow miles jack to play strengths and really come into his own and be a top tier linebacker. What they found is that they did not get the player. They thought they were getting Basically job is not that run. Stuffer that you know the thing. Vince williams. He's not vince williams. He's not that dude is going to be like. Yeah you know i'm gonna. I'm gonna take on offensive lineman of beat them in the run game. I'm going to stuff a fullback in the whole get off of him and tackle your running back in the backfield for loss. That's vince williams. Right joe schober. Not that dude. He's much better in coverage than than than williams was and he's good run in run defense but he's not a run stuffer. He is not a guy who's going to free up mile jack to not have to to really worry about you. Know taking on blockers of being that guy in the run game so he didn't work out there and he had a big contract and basically the way it was up. There was a lot of guaranteed money for this season. You know when the new the new people came in took over the team. New coaches new systems. Everything you've got a lotta money locked into this player this season that you can't get out from under next season a season after that. His car pay is big enough and he's not worth it to that team. That has now suddenly young. He's not the guy. They thought they were trying. They were trying to get next two miles jack so basically they were going to cut him. He's gone either way. He's gone after this season. And so they were able to dump half of that money onto the steelers and get rid of him okay. That's basically what they did. They dump the player and dumped half. The salary on the steelers wasn't a great move for them. But it's understandable. Now what he brings to the steelers talk about this way all right. So he wasn't the guy they wanted next two miles jack. Let's compare miles. Jacket devon bush and for the sake of argument I'm just gonna let you just consider them to be roughly equal in overall talent. Blessed miles jack is is kind of like eighty percent coverage focus. Twenty percent run defense right. He's guy you wanting coverage every play and not really run defense ever whereas devon bushes closer to balance. He's he's really good and coverage but he's not miles jack level right. He's really good. But he's better against the ryan the miles jackass so even if if we consider the two of them even jaclyn miles jack would be the better coverage guy. Devin bush would be closer to balanced and better at run stuffing than miles jackass. Meanwhile the steelers had a guy. Like vince williams. Who if you're gonna if you're gonna do that. Same kind of percentile breakdown of run versus coverage on defense versus coverage. Vince ways would be like eighty or higher percent. Run defense and twenty percent or less in coverage While joe shelbert is more balanced so basically if before last season both teams had been smart. This has been like a madden kind of franchise..

Behind the Steel Curtain
"vince williams" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain
"One of those guys. That just looks older than what he is but he's athletic. He's a sideline to sideline player. He's very good in coverage he is someone that the steelers honestly they needed. We've all bemoaned. The fact of watching inside linebackers get put on tight ends running backs in the slaughter out wide getting burned. That is one of his strength. And so that's really good to know. In case you don't remember in november of twenty nineteen the game where myles garrett ripped mason rudolph helmet off his head and use it as a weapon against him it was not myles garrett. That was the best defender on the field. It was joe show bert. He had an interception. He was all over the football field. That was only two years ago. So if you're thinking well now is a long time ago schober. That was only two years ago if you need to go back and watch the highlights of that game. I don't recommend it but if you do you will see joe schubert. In what he can bring to defense said the next thing. Joe showboat is a sure tackler. He is not a player that is gonna dive at people's ankles. He is not someone that is going to shying away from contact. He is a tackler. He is a guy that will stick his nose into the mix and make the dirty plays. Sometimes when you get these linebackers that are more built for coverage they're more they excel in the coverage schemes. Sometimes you get them and you're thinking oh boy these guys are. They don't like that type of that type of game that's not show where he's a good tackler he and he's also very versatile. That's the next known that we wanna talk about. He is a versatile player. He can play either position on the inside. Linebacker depth chart he can play in coverage. He can play man he can play zone. He can play in sub packages. This isn't vince williams people. Sometimes when vince williams was out there they would have to say to him. Hey we gotta make sure. We don't get caught with vince williams on the field. That is something that was actually said vince. Williams had severe limitations when it came to coverage. That's nothing against vince williams. That's just who he was. Joe schubert is not that table player. His versatility can have him be on the field every single snap in. That's one of the reasons that on day. One on sunday when he was a practice for the very first time he was running with the starters. Now mike tomlin said after practice. This was mainly the you wanna test him. You want to see what she has so you throw them out there. I wasn't expecting him to be thrown out too with the starters. But that's exactly what the steelers did showboat after practice talked about how the steelers are planning on giving him the green dot the green dot. Meaning that is the helmet that has speakers in the ears so that the defensive coordinator or whoever calls in the defensive calls. They relay the calls to that player to players on the defense. Get the dot. But they can't be on the field at the same time so schober guy. They're expecting him to be on the field most of the time really interesting stuff. He's very versatile next. You talk about that high football. Iq when you're around the nfl for that long for six years and that's a long time. That's a long time you've been around played a lot of all year round that much football ye tend to pick up a lot of those little tricks of the trade. Maybe it's not just about terminology. Maybe it's not about xs does maybe it's about. I know how certain players play. I know what tibbs certain players do you just learn and and you can think about this any occupation anything. Think about the job that you have right now. I don't care if you're a busboy. At a restaurant. If you're at schoolteacher if you've been working in the business realm or work at a bank i don't care what you do think about the very first time you went into that job and then think about six years later you have learned things to make your job easier if you haven't. I'm wondering what you're doing at work. Because i can tell you that for me whether it's running. This website will use that as an example the first year iran iran behind the steel curtain dot com. It was a cluster. I kind of knew what to do. But i wasn't one hundred percent sure. I was always second guessing myself with headlines and the approach. And i never knew what was the right approach in now you just take go six years running it more than six years six years later my goodness i knew exactly what to do. Everything was streamlined. I had built a really great honest to goodness a great team and it became so much easier. That's the key has become so much easier and so for a guy like joe's schober who played for six years. Think about devin bush. He's going into your three. Schober has been around enough to know what to do to make his life easier. And hopefully he can convey that to players. Like devin. Bush and roberts splaine and things like that. So those are the knowns. He's a veteran. he's athletic. He's a tackler. He's versatile and boy talk about high football. Iq those are the knowns. But what about the unknowns. What about those things. we're not sure of. That's we're going to talk about right after this break. Stay tuned support for this. Episode comes from adidas. We all know when you go.

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ
"vince williams" Discussed on Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ
"One thousand nine thirty seconds so this is something that they have to feel better about. Yes they nadia. Hairs is coming in hopefully now that s that play active element to the steelers. Offense has been non-existent over the last three years so banking get that help out there with the solid receiving core that he has out there and that takes the pressure off you know. How good can they be. This year can they. Can they can win the division or will they be in that third fourth spot. This is the first time in my twenty years of being around his organization that you can honestly say that. They're not the favorite in this division. You have cleveland yes. They beat them in the playoff round last year. Baltimore steel there but there are questions on the offense align with this team. They have five new players in every position at this point. That banner is the only one coming back. He started right tackle last year. He got hurt in the first four when he pours. Acl now he's moving to the left tackle position in now. Everybody else front. They just haven't been able to jail at this training camp. This offensive line has not had five guys consistently lining up in practice and here. We are almost three weeks to the today that these guys have to turn around and lying up and get ready for buffalo in week one so i'm concerned about that. I just don't know what we have an even in this game tonight. They won't have their fath- salaam and if they think is going to start in this particular Season opener on bass my biggest concern to the season batch how how important is just preseason training camp for the wayne haskins who came over and free agency once he was released from the washington football team last year. This is really important and you know he was. You know young immature down in washington. That's why he was released. And of course this league will humble you at some point in the manner at the way it has asked him was released and now areas with a fresh start stable organization. Mike tomlin believes in what he's capable of doing and he's had a strong and one advantage to him. They have a new office before nader amac canada's essentially everybody starting over from scratch with him. Having that element being able to learn in an ivory thing can unfolds. You'll have an opportunity to weisman rothlisberger figure out this. Run this offense and if he can do that that continues to gain a competence for him but he has to get better and he understand pressure is not there but when you watch him as a first round pick he's like man. I know able of going out there. Playing he showed it in the first preseason game against dallas. He's showing in in training camp. Thus far so i'm excited to see what he's capable of doing. Charlie us right now and the goodyear hotline spent ten years with the steelers quarterback when some super bowl certainly as well And and you'll be doing the game tonight. Tv analysts for the steelers on the game tonight battle of pennsylvania. The eagles and the steelers can we did mention. Jalen hurts as we're watching. Obviously all the quarterbacks here in the preseason something key and i've been talking about with jalen hurts is the fact that last year. He got the job on a sense. That doug peterson was trying to hold up as long as he could. With carson wentz and it just got to a point where they had to make the move and it felt like he earned the job because he wasn't carson wentz is he still have to prove himself. Do you think as the for the eagles to be their quarterback. Qb one not just a week one because that's who they have right now but for the long-term brooms of philadelphia's a tough city. It'd be a quarterback in in the way that he was able to get the job last year and now you have a new regime quite frankly coming in. They didn't draft him so they wanna seek them. Now take that next step. But how does that look. How can you convince everybody. Because they're still rumblings about them possibly bringing another quarterback to now run this philadelphia's team so he has a lot to prove to himself but to his organization to the fan base that he's capable of running this organization running this team to getting back to championship albertine like they was worse. So hopefully doesn't allow that pressure to county seat inside. He just go out there and plays his game. Oc he's able to take that next step from year one to too because if he doesn't you're not league as he they will now look to move on in a draft to get somebody to get some young talent in here run his franchise absolutely tonight's game. You're calling which young player are you looking forward to seeing the most as i go back out her. I want to see them. Bush i mean bush has two years ago. He was the first round pick. He's tours. acl in the middle of last year. Even playing with a little hesitancy but that comes with insults coming off of it injury but he's always played with speed so he he's that key in that middle of defense. They lost vince williams to retirement right at the eva training. Kim is the leader in that lack of group. I want to see him get going playing with a lot more confidence and then let that defense feet up the energy that he brings to them. What was preseason like for you. What was games for you. Everybody handles them. Differently are as different attitudes about the preseason said. They're the games might not matter but they do matter to each individual. Some guys who are trying to make the team for you. What was preseason. Would you have a good story about a preseason experience. Well early on. Baccarat our the starter. But as i got the pittsburgh i was relegated to the backup role for delegated to the backup role. So of course the a lot more. Because i wasn't gonna play in the regular season like i was accustomed to playing. So when you're out there with guys that you know that may not necessarily be here at the start of the regular season you have to get those guys motivated. Get them playing and see if you've been now lead drives consistently down here because you know those guys who are playing. The starters are watching you and knowing that if you can step into that huddle get the job done. That's where you read the confidence. Not only the players do the coaching staff. But i think for me. It was more or less. I got a chance to learn. Who the carolina panthers wasn't at four preseason game because the steelers played the panthers every year in the last preseason game became very familiar with them. Because i had my job in that game. So trust me yeah. It doesn't mean a lot when you're young player and you're a star but when you're kind of fighting for that roster spot man that preseason game it means a whole heck of a lot because you have a lot to prove. There's no doubt about charlie great to talk to you. Thanks for joining us. Enjoy the game tonight. All right i appreciate it. Thanks for having me charlie batch. Again he'll have the game. The.

Behind the Steel Curtain
"vince williams" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain
"They lost the preview an acl. They lost that banner. Do an acl. They lost devin bush to acl. They lost. I mean early. In the season stephan was newsworthy. Pectoral muscle in so he was on the shelf for awhile. You even look at other injuries. That happened on. Mike hilton shoulder. There were injuries all across the board all across the board. But you steeler fans can't say oh well. They were so banged up. Every team had injuries. Every single team was dealing with some type of injury so that surprise. We don't wanna hear it. We don't want to read it. We don't want to write it. We don't wanna see it but at the same time we know it's going to happen injuries or a part of the game. I think also you can expect rostrums from the steelers if they don't make a move and when i say make a move. What if they don't try anything. The word this okay. So let's say they don't give a joe. Haden extension resigned. Tj wa to a monster deal at decreases is twenty twenty one cap hit. I think there's still a a really strong chance. Steelers will make some roster moves this preseason and when would that happen my guess is it would happen. When all those other teams are cutting their roster's down there trimming their officers down to the fifty three and there's going to some talented players positions of need for the pittsburgh steelers that are available and they will go out and get some of those players finger. Ross cockrell he was the perfect example he was cut. The steelers said we need a quarterback. Rodman played extremely well so it is possible that these news can happen. Do i think that they will make a big roster move. People are bringing up. These names like avery williamson. I've seen michael kendrick. Ah it's an inside. Linebacker will obviously cooker. That rumor mill just will not stop. I swear it will not stop blame. Michael beck for a big reason. Why because he's always bringing it up still. Could they make one of these moves. Yes they could but they need to make another move before that like a hayden extension. What new contract Something of that nature restructuring. Chris boswell they need to free up more salary cap space. Based on the fact that melvin. Ingram when he signed his contract at one year deal. That's obviously eating up the majority of their savings that they created when they release david decastro so roster moves. I think is a surprise. We should all expect. I want to make sure enters. Everyone understands during training camp during during the preseason in terms of what surprises. Lie ahead please please please in all talk about this a little bit later. Please take these success and failure of these players with a grain of salt. There're players that will have a bad day during training camp derek players that will get abused during training camp. Let's try our best not to write them off. Because of one bad practice there will be players. that will look awful in the preseason. Let's try our best not to write them off after one. Bad preseason game and we know that that's going to happen. We should not be surprised. If let's say we hear that ben roethlisberger threw three picks in a in a training camp practice. Don't be surprised by that is probably going to happen. That does not mean that he's going to duplicate that in the regular season keep in mind and then the last thing in to be honest with you before. I take a break who the heck knows with this team anymore. I swear i it this team. In terms of surprises you could be surprised in so many different ways with so many different things. It is literally endless. You talk about the injuries you talk about players retiring you talk about players acquired everything. It seems like everything they could happen. In terms of surprises with an nfl franchise has happened with the pittsburgh. Steelers this off season in now going into training camp. The vince williams retirement was just the latest and he thinks that david casters released. Trae turner comes in melvin. Ingram comes in. It's just been it's been insane. So who knows what lies ahead but make sure behind the steel curtain. Dot com is your one-stop shop for all things pittsburgh steelers because we're gonna have all the breaking news for you in all the information that you ever want around the black and gold. Make sure that your one-stop shop for all things pittsburgh steelers all right enough surprise. Talk when we get back after this break to talk about the mainstream narrative got some talking to do and then a really cool story from my heart to heart..

Behind the Steel Curtain
"vince williams" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain
"You can talk about james connor go with cardinals then and then. There were players that were gained free agents that were gained by the steelers. You think about. I think were the biggest surprises. In my opinion was juju smith. Schuster coming back. He was a free agent. No one thought that there was any chance that jujubes misused her would be back in the black and gold in twenty twenty one. And maybe you're someone out there that said i'm glad he didn't. I'm not one of those people. I was excited to see juju back. He's a tough receiver. He does the tough things. Well he is. A hines ward type of player. We'll put it that way. And then you had some minor. Signings like ray mcleod comes back. Joshua dobbs resigns in a more acquisitions in that joe hague is is is one of them but then you had these retirements some of them like when vance mcdonald retired it. Wasn't that surprised it was. I mean we kind of had a feeling he wasn't going to be back anyways. His salary cap hit was going to be huge for twenty twenty one so it just seemed like they as mcdonald's probably not going to be a part of the overall program anyways within marquees pounds. He retires and everything. And okay that boy. This is. This is a surprise. No one expected pouncey to hang it up now. We all thought he'd do one more year with rothlisberger than they would both ride off into the sunset together. Hopefully hoisting the lombardi trophy. But i think what's really strange. The most retirement and this has been surprising. Was the vince williams. On the day the players were supposed to report to training camp. That is that was wednesday of this week. He decided he's not gonna play for whatever reason. We don't know what that reason is at the moment that this is recorded. We don't know why. Vince williams said i'm not playing. I'm just done and to be honest on thursday. The very first practice. For the pittsburgh steelers marco bali of the athletic tweet. It out that from the people that he spoke to within the steelers organization. Now i do not know if that's coaches. I don't know if that's front office staff. I don't know if that's ownership of. I don't know if that's even players. But whoever mark. Bali talked to he tweeted that it seemed like the the organization did not know until wednesday. That vince williams was going to retire. They were as blindsided as the fan. Base was think about that. You cut a guy and we're gonna talk about that. In a second vince williams gets cut. Then all of a sudden you say hey look into. You're not getting signed by anyone. We have back veteran minimum. He says shore. You think you're gonna get one more year With devon bush vince williams. That's a pretty good inside linebacker duo then it feels like the rug pulled out from underneath you i. I don't know what happened. Maybe we will never know what happened but still. That's a surprise. It's what we're talking about here. The surprises then. You do have those releases. I talked about williams game released. I honestly never thought that he was going to be potential salary cap casualty. I just didn't think he was going to be one of those players he was. They got him back then. He retires steven nelson. I mean if you ask me it was always going to be between nelson and hayden. One of those two was going to get cut. Who was going to be. I don't know it turned out. It was nelson and hayden were. He's still playing out his final year of his contract. I'm someone that thinks that the steelers could benefit from keeping him on the roster. I think he has a lot of juice. Left in the tank. They could save money for the salary cap this year. But still steven nelson was released and that was kinda surprising and then david decastro gets released. That was right after mini camp. And then they bring in trade turner free agent acquisitions you want to call it bad and then you know you just think about. These are all surprises to cash or being was surprise nelson maybe not as much williams in his in. His retirement. Were both surprises. Then i mean what a good surprise. Melvin ingram melvin. Ingram which by the way which by the way a couple people on twitter And i don't want to say their names. Because i don't want necessarily attach this to it when it comes came to a reason for maybe vince williams retirement. They kind of hinted that maybe it was because of the acquisition. Of melvin ingram melvin. Ingram is very similar. To vince williams. He plays on the outside but he can play on the inside. He can rush the passer from the interior. That's kind of what vince williams does. I'm not sure if one. Melvin ingram was acquired. Vince williams said. I have no spot on this team anymore. I'm done. I'm not gonna play anymore. I don't know don't take that. that's the rumor. That's just a rumor. I'm not gonna call it a report. That is a rumor but still. There's people that are talking about it. The melvin ingram being signed. That's huge. That's a huge surprise. That's a positive surprise. Two thumbs up on that one. If he can stay healthy that turns at outside linebacker depth into maybe one of the biggest glaring weaknesses on the roster to not not a strength the not the strongest position. I would say that you know you'll get defensive line or wide receiver. Those are the strengths of your of your roster. I'm not saying that but it makes the outside linebacker depth quality a makes it outside linebacker death experience. Those are important things so the question is what surprises. Lie ahead for the two thousand twenty one steelers. What's coming up. Are there any surprises. Weakened navy predict. Are there any surprises that we can. Maybe think okay. We can guarantee that this is going to happen at some point for instance. I'll give you the first one. Injuries injuries can happen. They will happen no matter what. There's not a team in the nfl last season. That wasn't impacted by injuries. In some way shape or form have there been were their teams. I should say we're there teams that were impacted more. Yes absolutely i mean you look at pittsburgh..

Behind the Steel Curtain
"vince williams" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain
"In case your first time listening we've had a lot of people join us during the season last year in twenty twenty one that weren't with us during training camp. If you're one of those people just understand the training camp recap is really just a chance for me to let you know what's going on a practice. These will only be happening when the steelers actually practice. Obviously there's not gonna be news when they have the day off in the steelers. Were back on the field for the very first time. They reported on wednesday. Thursday was their very first time at practice. And it wasn't saint vincent college it wasn't latrobe. Pa but there was a lot of news happening amongst the pittsburgh steelers. And i'm going to break it down for you in simple terms is what you need to know The steelers after practice did have three three people. I should say three very important. People available for in-person media. It was actually the first time since two thousand nineteen you know. Mike tomlin stood in front of reporters. They weren't that close but he stood in front of reporters. So mike tomlin office. He spoke to ben. Rothlisberger and t. j. watt. Were the three people that spoke after practice on thursday so a couple of things of note The first thing that came that was really noticeable for me. Was that This mike tomlin said the kendrick green. Everyone's thinking could this guy be the center for the steelers in week. One what he said he is going to be the starter at center at least for week. One of the preseason. He also said the big. Dan more could start at tackle. I'm not sure if it was left to right tackle. But he did say the kendra kendrick green but dan more could be starting as well And then you got a feel for already early in training camp. There were some that were getting into like kendra green guy first team snaps. He dealt with ben rothlisberger on thursday rothlisberger said. Although it's not pouncey he said that Kendrick green communicated did all the calls. They didn't fumble a snap. So good i start for kendrick green but then also antoine brooks junior six round draft pick at a twenty and the twenty twenty draft out of maryland. You know how. Mike tomlin loves disturbs. He intercepted rothlisberger from the slot and rothlisberger. He said quote. He's filling mike hilton shoes. Who's been a rock on that defense for him to make that play. I was happy for him. And then also jim wechsel of twenty four seven. Sports said rothlisberger appeared frustrated by sensational diving interception by slot corner. Antoine brooks dens. Eddie was just amazed and was complimenting. Mike hilton's heir apparent a larkin change in the course of a preseason in training camp folks but it seems like the steelers are giving that first shot at that slot cornerback to antoine brooks junior. Some people thought it might be james pierre. Some people thought it might be someone like marcus allen no antoine brooks junior is getting the first look and he is seems to be making the most out of its keep that a minds to file it away. It's only day one. I don't wanna make too much video out of this but still something. No worthy also tj. Watts new deal might. Tom was asked about that. And he said quote. I'm sure that process will run. Its course and we'll have something to announce That's interesting. I didn't expect a contract to be done before the season. But maybe it will. Ben rothlisberger took to the podium and he was asked about some of the off season in a narratives supposedly involving his ability and his physique etc and he said quote are things being said about me nationally and then with a smile said well. What's new ben rothlisberger. Understand what's being said about him folks. If you're someone that's sitting there thinking how does not know he knows and he is. Trust me he's motivated to go out and show people that he is still capable of getting the job done. Speaking of rothlisberger a lot of people are wondering will he be able to learn nat canada's offense. It is different. It is complex. No one really knows exactly what it's going to look like rothlisberger certainly does he was asked about how he's learning all the formations. The new verbiage play calls. I mean this guy's going into his eighteenth year in the national football league actually said that his daughter helped him make flash cards and he said quote. There's been some quizzes with a smile. Devon bush if you didn't read the article on behind steel curtain dot com. He was told that he's basically been fully cleared medically with his knee. That he won't be you know. Have any downtime. Before he's able to practice he should be given the green light right away. Zach banner also ahead of schedule. Zero steeler players will be starting camp on the pup list the physically unable to perform list. That is great news for the steelers to not have anyone. That's dealing with a major injury. Early on now kevin and didn't work today. He didn't practice today. Said he's dealing with something that something is not serious enough to put them on the publis. I wouldn't put too much stock into that something. That was interesting. That i thought of it. i was curious. Did the steelers know about vince. Williams thinking about retirement according to mark bali of the athletic. He said it sounds like the steelers. Had no idea that vince williams retiring until yesterday. That's really interesting to me. Really interesting to me. And so Maybe he didn't tell them maybe he didn't know i'm not saying it's his fault. I'm not saying that anyone is to blame but very interesting news there. If the steelers had no clue that vince williams was about to hang it. Up tomlin. Mike tomlin was asked about the new offense of line in he did not Splice words he said quote. We don't have the bar set too high. We were last in the league in rushing. We have nowhere to go but up with certain aspects of that. Yeah i hope that that's the way they view it as they can only go up but at the same time we hope that they they don't just move up a little bit. They actually thrive. That's that's the hope that is the hope. And then lastly in like. I said there wasn't a ton of news coming out of this first day of camp There are some steelers that will be wearing new numbers. Some people like the jersey. Some people want to go out and buy a bunch of jersey. so in case you're interested like new. Newly-acquired melvin ingram. Outside linebacker will wear number eight number eight this is. He's taking advantage that new. Nfl rule where linebackers are allowed to wear single digit numbers. He wore number. Eight trade turner. But we're never fifty one. That's really weird for me. When i think fifty one i think james farrior But still fifty one and yeah a buddy johnson. The rookie from texas am fourth round. Pick is also wearing number fifty one He's on the other side so something's gonna give but honestly if the rookie makes the team he will probably not be too attached to that number if trae turner wants it. We'll keep it that way. Kicker sam sloman. Who is basically a camp unless chris boswell gets hurt is gonna wear sixteen and also newly acquired offense attack. Oh chaz green is wearing number seventy four so for all you jersey fans out there. There's your jersey fixing all those new numbers the pittsburgh steelers. I wanna make this very clear. The pittsburgh steelers have not released. That i've seen any type of schedule for training camp when they're at latrobe. There is a clear cut. The players are working out this day this day off this day this day this day. Preseason game i have not seen anything like that. So i wanna be able to say. Check me tomorrow. For another training camp recap but if they give him the day off and there won't be a training camp recap so your best bet is to check out behind.

GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast
"vince williams" Discussed on GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast
"You have melvin ingram. The former pass rusher for the chargers he signed with pittsburgh. The pittsburgh steelers so he'll be going to pittsburgh. I do like the move for pittsburgh. I think they definitely needed to address the pass rusher situation. Obviously you know they lost by duprey you know. They needed somebody to replace that. And i you know. Obviously melvin. Ingram is definitely older than bud duprey and you know he does have an injury history so there is that is something to keep an eye on. When you're you know looking at the defense. Listen i think when it comes to the steelers defense you know. it's going to be one of the defenses. Taking on one of the first defenses taken off the board as usual. i mean. There's still going to be a sack machine And that's definitely something that a lot of fantasy players are going to want. I think the problem with the steelers is obviously their secondary. And you know they do need help at the cornerback spot. I believe you know. Obviously they make fitzpatrick. And you know he's just. Starting joe haines getting older You know so. The the secondary is really. What's going to be the problem for the steelers defense. So you know. We'll see what happens with that. I do like the signing. As long as he stays healthy you know could definitely help the steelers out. And also vince williams the middle linebacker for the steelers. He announced his retirement. So the series. You're gonna look to fill that void You know in the linebacking core. But really i think the major problem with the steelers is going to be there or an issue is the secondary i think. Really what the problem is going to be. i think. of course they're seven gonna be fine Like i said melvin. Ingram stays healthy. This defense is going to be really good. So i think really. There's i mean. I think the steelers defense is still going to be. One of the first defense is taken off the board..

Behind the Steel Curtain
"vince williams" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain
"Wile thursdays are the data be. I mean this is the first day of training camp practice. We're talking about practice. I'm really glad you're joining me here. I know i'm sorry it's not. Let's ride it's thursday. You're stuck with me instead. But that's all right but today is the day that the steelers going to take the field not in pads. They're going to be at the. Up emc rooney's sports complex on the south side. But they're going to actually be on the field doing their thing doing some drills. I don't know exactly how much they'll be doing. But we never got a really firm start date for training camp. We had several things. We were told that today thursday was going to be the start of of camp by one reliable source From deke pittsburgh sports and we also know that on wednesday the twenty eighth is the first day that fans will be attendance at heinz field for the first padded practice but then on tuesday night. Steelers set out something on twitter. That said oh players are coming tomorrow so you kind of know exactly what all those different dates met. So they showed up a wednesday. They officially reported they're gonna start with some practice stuff. Non padded practices today. The why can i cannot remember what today is the twenty second on thursday. And here we go. We're starting the to me. This means the nfl off season. At least for the pittsburgh steelers is over. Offseason done it is time to get on with his twenty twenty one season and what is even more fantastic is two weeks from today we will get our first preseason game the hall of fame game august fifth in ohio against the dallas cowboys. I don't really care who the steelers playing that doesn't matter. In the preseason really the the opponent is meaningless in the preseason in my opinion all because it's all about seeing what your players are going to do and things of that nature but became. go on. i'm actually recording this much later on wednesday than i normally do because to come to you as early as possible thursday morning. And that's because i've been kind of reeling with a law stuff because of the retirement events williams man. Oh man that kind of that kind of surprised me and it was really interesting because when you saw the interesting tweak. Sorry tweet from former steeler. Terrance garvin whenever melvin ingram sign and some wind listed out all the linebackers in this is crazy. And he's like yeah. I know something's coming and we're like Okay what's coming what's coming what's coming and it was. It was the vince williams retirement. I kind of it's funny. It's i can't see that thought didn't enter my mind. I i read that not even retirement. That i'm like oh somebody's hurting isn't really going to be ready to go or something's going on. What are these guys. Isn't gonna be available and i thought about the different stuff. I even thought about vince. Wins but i never really gave it any stock you know. I never really thought it was going to be but that. That's it vince. Williams is calling it a career crazy offseason salary cap casualty before the start of the new league year. Signed back in the middle of april at league minimum deal. Now he's moving. He's moving on to other things other than football. I at the time recording this. There's not really anything out there. Where vince is really saying. You know..

Behind the Steel Curtain
"vince williams" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain
"We thank him for all his years of service for the pittsburgh steelers everything that he's brought to the team. There's some great memories. i'm sure we'll talk about those in the coming days and weeks but now we have to look at the pittsburgh steelers from the inside linebacker position moving forward. The steelers did get some good news on wednesday when the team reported training camp devon bush the starter at inside linebacker. His acl tear that he suffered last week. Last season i believe is week four. I could be wrong about that. And i apologize for not having that in front of me. He's fully recovered. According to jerry do lack of the pittsburgh post gazette he's fully recovered and he should be good to go in terms of getting back to practice and not missing any time. That's important on top of that. Now with vince williams gone. You would assume the robbers spelane would fill in Next to devon bush on your basically your every down linebacker and then you would have players like buddy. Johnson news a rookie. You would have ulysses gilbert the third. Maybe even marcus allen being thrown into the mix. The pittsburgh steelers are a team that if there's one position where they actually have some depth i would say is it inside linebacker now. That death does not necessarily equate to experience net. Something that vince williams always brought to the steelers was a wealth of experience considering how much he had to play early in his career so of robert spleen and devin bush can say healthy. I feel like that's your tandem. That's going to be starting a for pretty much most of the time. They're going to be the ones that are out on the football field Unless they get into specific sub packages. One of them comes off. You can debate whether this is better or worse. With or without vince williams. That's fine but i don't think that now is the time to appropriately discussed that. Let's enjoy vince. Williams for the career that he had Let's enjoy vince. Williams for the character that he was He's one of the few players that i remember. He actually reached out to me as the editor of behind the steel curtain. When he was having a stories break with remember he was. It was the whole Vaunt has birthed beef on twitter and stuff and he was trying to reach out to outlets and he's a really nice guy. He's a great guy and he came from florida state and he's very proud of that fact and he someone that you know if you follow him. Closely listened to the quotes. Listen to the media. Soundbites he doesn't he would not make this decision rashly. He would not just say. I think i don't really playing anymore. I'm just going to retire now. Could he or should. He have told the steelers ahead of time. That's neither here nor there but it's a situation where like i said earlier. We wish vince williams the absolute best in his retirement as for a quick programming note. Tomorrow thursday's the first day of practice where the pittsburgh steelers have both coach tomlin in several players at tj wadden. Ben rothlisberger will be available after practice. So you can expect to find a training camp recap podcast right here on our audio platform so wherever you get your podcast or steelers or behind. The steel curtain subscribe. Follow whatever you have to do so that you do not miss any of those in any of the other great shows that we have coming your way in as i always sign off on all of my podcast be safe..

Behind the Steel Curtain
"vince williams" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain
"Listening in that was was last year's defense. Great i mean that's that all depends on you and your own opinion may no. It wasn't it. Wasn't i'm sorry he surrender forty points in. I know not all of them. Were the the defense fault but when you when you have that dad. He just got the bad vibes going in the playoffs. It's just not a good look. I look at this and say the steelers. Defense with melvin ingram. Now they took a step in the right direction in that is going from good to great. Where are the weaknesses. where the weaknesses. Now on the steelers defense. That's the question we have to ask one another. Where are the weaknesses. Is it in the front seven. I don't think so. Excuse me especially not now especially not now when you think about how the one weakness in the front seven that we all talked about before the season started before the out during the offseason i should say was how they had horrible death at outside. Linebacker will not anymore. If quincy rochet can turn out to be even just a situational pass rusher. What else do you need. Cassius marsh will be a special teams guy. He's a demon out there. We know that he likes to throw his body round special teams. My goodness that'd be. That would be absolutely fine. So i think melvin ingram's impact on the steelers defense is going to be great if he can say healthy. That is a giant a giant. If all right. I'm my goodness my fault. Okay if you're listening live on spotify green room and you wanna talk to the speaker request. I would be glad to talk to you. I know logan who is a regular honor show. He said he can't talk tonight. But will we see an immediate impact for melvin. Ingram will take a few weeks for him to find a role in the defense. Well i think personally. Logan that melvin ingram signing now when he did is really really important. He's played in a defense in san diego slash. La that's very similar to pittsburgh. Their defensive is primarily three four. He's played that hybrid role where he can flex inside. He can obviously rush the passer from the outside. He's gonna know the defense for sure. He's under the defense throw in the fact that he now is going to be entering the coming into the steelers locker room before training camp he starts. He's in head start. The steelers reportedly were interested in just in. Houston i have a feeling just in houston. Maybe wanted some more money just houston also have said. I want to be a starter. I don't want to be a backup. I want to be a number three and that's fine. Justin houston might have to wait until the end of the train. End of training camp. Preseason or even tell someone gets injured before he can actually get a role so think about that. Think about if the steelers were in that situation. Think about it if the steelers were having to wait in hopefully get someone on the cheap now all of a sudden you're looking at well houses person gonna kind of houses player going to mold or gel with everyone else. Are they gonna learn the defense in time. Are they going to be able to do all those things that you know. Kind of a habitual. The non verbal communication between players. I think melvin ingram is smarter. Not he's veterans. Be thirty two years old this year. He's been around the block and then some he will be just fine when it comes to understanding the defense getting acclimated in. I can't trust enough in my opinion. And it's just my opinion how important it was or is that the steelers sign. Melvin ingram when they did get him into pittsburgh get him into the game into camp and let's make sure that he is fully on board and ready to go when we won rolls around holden. Who's in the spotify green ramp discussion boards. As i know you talk about the defense at the end of the season but do you think. The defense is great with bush but healthy at the beginning of the year. Maybe it's not a big enough sample size. I think it could be very similar if we ended up signing nelson back. Okay so hold on i. That is a great point is a great point that with devin bush healthy and budget pre healthy. It's different defense. Absolutely is different defense. I'm gonna plug. A an article is going to be published on behind so per dot com tomorrow wednesday at nine thirty in the morning in. That's from kevin smith our own cliff harris is still punk in. It's all about devin bush. How his impact for the steelers defense. You throw in devon bush. You throw in vince williams roberts spleen with a year under his belt you throw. Melvin ingram my goodness. I think this defense is going to be tremendous. I don't think steven nelson is going to sign back with the steelers. I know there's rumors are swirling. I know that everyone's excited about that. I just don't see it happening. And despite the fact that that'd be great to see steven nelson come back. I think they'll be okay. I really do. This always comes down to me is. What kind of defense are you going to be. Are you a defense. It's going to have good coverage in the secondary that is going to get a hold up and let the pass rush. Get to the quarterback or you're gonna be a defense against the quarterback enforces dad passes. I think they're going to be the ladder. They're gonna be a defense defrantz suffocating. Their collapse pocket they're going to wreak havoc on the interior in an old k with that. Absolutely okay everyone. We're at the midway point of the bod gas. If you're listening to live on spotify green room go anywhere..

Behind the Steel Curtain
"vince williams" Discussed on Behind the Steel Curtain
"He's not going to be the captain. Here's one i'm gonna ask you this question. 'cause i someone that i thought about. I'm not going to do it. But it's my answer to this question for you jordan. Dangerfield's gun yes. Who do you think and they talking about. This would be really important that it is. Who do you think is going to be the up man on the punt team that is the guy causes formation calls in guys sets them if they have to come into block rather than be outlined. And everything else. If there's gonna be fake he's gonna call it or things like that. Who do you think is gonna fill that role who is mainly one of your most important special teamers other than your specialists for the steelers this year. You know what. I was trying to think about the idea to make this list and i wasn't sure if i had anybody picked out for that i do. I do and it's someone that i thought about. I'm like you just. I just don't see someone being a captain their first year in pittsburgh. I think it's good to be mouse gilbert who they signed on the lines. That's what i think is going to be there. I think he's he was basically. In my opinion he was brought in in the jordan dangerfield role. He's special teams ace but they could probably use them more on defense. That's just what i think. I think that's a guy that that could be there and do that. A cre- thinks is going to be derek. What that he could be the guy as as the up man. So if that's the case then i could very well see what being being the the especially in captain. I dismissed him right away. Because i thought we had one year in pittsburgh and he missed a lot of time there and you know which is a shame because part of the reason i said. Hey i'm okay with steelers signing him because his best abilities is availability because he had never missed a game in his career and then he comes to pittsburgh in four game last year so all. Yeah i guess that's an honestly that was probably why he was brought in in place of roosevelt mix because of thinking he was going to be more available so if he's not available this year this will be his last year in pittsburgh or he honestly because he'll be going into his last the last year of his deal so but i'm hoping he can really be a good special teams guy anything else you wanna say about the subject he rich. You know what there was. Another person out. There are actually considered becoming forty forty percent of the snaps. And kind of and you. And i we love this guy forty percent snaps. I'm looking okay. i'm ready okay. Go ahead. what mine in favorites. Okay and that would be henry monday henry. I know these theme. I mean he brings a lot on special teams so he goes. But there's i mean there are so line see another guy that played a lot of snaps. If someone like marcus allen yes you know so that was. That one's tough. I mean james played a lot of of special teams snaps last year. But he playing more corner whether in some package or not. He might not have many snaps. I don't know Here's someone that i thought about. But i didn't say it because he didn't have very many special teams snaps last year but he might end up with more this year. Do you think. Because of the return of one devon bush in the emergence of one roberts splaine that one vince williams vinicio. I think it's it's williams. Then ev- ichi key might be playing more special team snaps. Because i think if that's the plan he could be your special teams captain. I just don't know that that's going to be. I don't know if that's going to be the plan or not. And that's i thought about him. And i was going to have him high because i'm like he would be a great special teams captain if they're going to relegate him to playing special teams and. I don't know that they're going to do that. So yeah and then. There's right here like chris and live chat and i would be okay with this. He says i want jordan dangerfield back just as give. I'm confession. i finally deleted it a few weeks ago. I wrote two articles before the start of the league year in march two have already written so we had to do is throw it a little bit of data slap in a tweet hit publish will be get up there. Quick of players that the steelers were were going to sign for the twenty twenty one season. One of those articles published zach. Banner the other one. I had to delete because it was jordan. Dangerfield thought for sure he was one of those guys that they were going to bring back. Veteran minimum. Wouldn't even really be counting. You know where they get the the the break towards the salary cap of this psalm. One year deal where even though he's making nine hundred ninety thousand dollars. He's only counting eight hundred fifty. That's that veteran salary. Benefit is what that's called but then they signed miles killer bruin that kind of right there just told we talked about it on staff even with with. Bts's were like. I think the killebrew kind of nixed. The whole jordan dangerfield return so interesting so that's just one of those things. A lot of people were giving some some comments is the first ever lived. That the live chat that much but he breached. You want to take a few minutes questions or do you want see some oil. Well mention inter wilbur. Put up their ass about antoine brooks. You know yeah. And how much he he. He only played two percent of the special teams snaps last year. He didn't play very many games remember. he didn't even team. He was on the practice squad. Crackhead he did make some appearances. We'll see what he has to do this year right now. is there. yeah. I would expect those numbers for him to pick up. I don't know if they're going to pick up to forty plus percent or not. We'll see we'll see we're going to think about five minutes of questions here. I just put it out there in the in the live chat. If someone has a question would if you wanna make sure you can use the super chat feature just drop whatever amount in there and put your question. Don't feel like you need to do it. we're not here. Soliciting.

Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network
Big Ben among 4 to go on Steelers' COVID list
"The steelers have announced this morning that they have placed four players on the reserve covid nineteen list. One of them is named ben rothlisberger. Whenever i go in and out. I always order the rothlisburger. He's joined by offensive linemen. Gerald hawkins running back jalen samuels and linebacker vince. Williams must be isolated for five days in a soundproof cell. Now i don't know at. They will not be permitted to the. Up mc rooney's sports complex that the university of pittsburgh medical center. Maybe they can take part in virtual meetings. That's when you know someone hate you when they won't let you in on the zoom call. I just want to say next time we live up in this formation and we see too deep we away. What are you doing here Coded isolation yeah. We don't wanna repeal is getting covid. i know on a webcam. It's better safe than sorry. That's when you know you're hated it's hilarious. They're permitted to take part in virtual meeting. This isn't the bye week. The union may turn the bye week. Contact us don't wanna coming into the facility. We could if we need some medical treatment. But you're not you're not you're not you're not even allowed to contact your players during the bye week basically exist.

AP News Radio
The Latest: Roethlisberger added to Steelers' COVID-19 list
"With the Steelers off to an eight you know start veteran quarterback Ben Roethlisberger and three others have been in close contact with tight end Vance McDonald he tested positive after Sunday's win at Dallas that means they must quarantine for five days and are unable to visit the team's practice facility but they can participate virtually in order to play on Sunday at home against Cincinnati all for a must pass covert nineteen tests throughout the week running back Jaylen Samuels offensive lineman Jerald Hawkins and linebacker Vince Williams joined Roethlisberger on the covert list actually after

WTOP 24 Hour News
Star QB among 4 players added to Steelers' COVID-19 list
"And here's Dave president breaking NFL news. Pittsburgh might be unbeaten, but four players go on the reserve covert 19 list today, including quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, offensive lineman Gerald Hawkins, Jalen Samuels and linebacker Vince Williams, also placed on the list. This due to the positive. Koven 19 test for Steelers had advanced McDonald, those four players Roethlisberger, Hawk and Samuels and Williams on due to be because they're deemed high risk. Contacts following the positive

Kilmeade and Friends
Cities Around Georgia Stand With Keisha Lance Bottoms, Atlanta Mayor, On Mandatory Mask Wearing
"The state are showing support for Atlanta's mayor as she fights a mask mandate lawsuit filed against her by Governor Brian Camp, The leadership of the Georgia Municipal Association is standing with the city of Atlanta and Mayor Keisha Lance bottoms filing a brief with the court showing support. You made a decision to file this brief in opposition. To the governor's actions since the lawsuit goes beyond the case against Atlanta and includes provisions that affect all of George's GM president in Union City Mayor Vince Williams says over 100 cities in the state, including his own have mandates requiring mask Sandra Parish 95.5 WSB WSB

Atlanta's Morning News
Worker killed in hit-and-run while cleaning up side of road; driver charged
"Counselors on site for union city employees after they witnessed their co worker being killed double the espys Michelle Wright reports slide the suspect in the deadly hit and run will go before judge today yeah that's right it started out like any other Monday for Brady McCurry of the rest of the city's public services department they were cleaning up along Lester road but everything changed when a car slammed into the thirty five year old then took off all is is co workers watch John Mayer Vince Williams is in disbelief for someone to heart Leslie hit a human being and just leave yeah now that's that's unimaginable he tells channel two action news McCurry was an awesome young man and they'll be working on a way to honor him the suspect told John junior was arrested a short time later he's facing several felonies connected to the