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The Case Of The Mysterious Raptors Autograph

The Free Agents

00:00 sec | 7 months ago

The Case Of The Mysterious Raptors Autograph

"Today's episode of no Dunks is brought to you by remarkably remote. A new daily micro cast from the experts at Goto. Meeting all about making work from home work for you with indispensable. Intel on how to stay sane motivated and productive at home. We're here to help you. In this brave new remote working world find us on smart speakers or subscribe on your favorite podcast APP. You can also listen at gotomeeting dot com slash tips. That's Goto meeting dot com slash tips. Good morning sweet world from the no dunks podcast and the athletic it's the case of the mysterious raptors autograph. One story told well just today it is April first twenty twenty but I promise. What you are about to hear is not a prank. I'm Jay skeets and joining me from the best buy payphones. We've got task smells the bearded one. Trey Kerby and are super producer. Jd THE OZZY. Leelee so shook by last night's development that he couldn't even bring himself to talk about it. We'll catch up with him later today on our beach. Step in podcasts. Yes last night a scandal rocked the NBA Twitter. World and tasks you were at the forefront of it all. Why don't you take us back to the night of March thirty first and how? This all went down while skates. I've gotta take you to the morning of March thirty first. Oh I because the athletic tweeted. What's the most random piece of sports memorabilia? You own drop a photo in the comment so I went into my Kia cubbyhole wall unit thing jake and I started digging. I saw a back to back Toronto Blue Jays. Coca-cola can took a photo of that was going to drop it in but that's not to random not random enough and I did remember. I had this raptors program which I purchased in a silent auction signed by Vince Carter. I paid one hundred twenty five dollars for it as a lot of money about twenty two years ago so I took a photo that dropped it in the comments and you know there are some jokes May. The athletic was very excited. They said incredible Our friend of the program Luke. Bonner commented on Charles Oakley's uniform which is a blank knicks uniform. That they just photoshop. The number out of Kevin Willis is on the cover Doug Christie is on the cover vince. Carter's cover from his draft day photo. Tracy McGrady D Brown John. Whilst you know it's just not a lot of engagement wasn't really happy with the amount of engagement that happened initially but besides that nothing happened until nine o'clock eastern Vince Carter himself retweeted the photo with the caption. Hate to be the bearer of bad news. But that's not my signature. That's Alvin Williams autograph. Who is another former rafter. Not even on the program. He claims it was Alvin Williams autograph and then Alvin Williams tweeted. That's not my signature bro. Crying face crying face. Looks like John Wallis's then we're I was. I was thrown for a tizzy I started to look at. I started to look at the autograph and I thought. Okay Well Alvin Williams. I mean. That's a pretty weird signature for Alvin Williams. A kind of looks like an a. n. l. but then he goes into the right side of the W. and then stops on the left side of the W. and then has to put his pen back on for the next couple of letters and so i. I'm totally confused. I thought this was Vince. Carter AUTOGRAPH FOR DECADES. Does it does look at the top like it's a vc but then everybody started chiming in. Oh Oh no you're an idiot. There's a big W in the middle of it. There's no W in Vince. Carter's name which. Yeah hindsight shirt for nine hours. No one said a thing. But you're right in the balls in the air. No-one said at a single thing until Vince Carter claimed it wasn't his. And then people started sending me screen shots of John Wallis's autograph and and that look like an identical match. John Wallace played for the next played for the raptors for a little bit played for another couple teams and he is on the cover of well of this raptors program. So it's definitely John Wallis autograph and that was essentially the night people making fun of me because I thought that was Vince. Carter autograph for decades and I was told when I purchased this into silent. Auction wasn't told John Wallis's autograph. No offense I probably wouldn't have paid one hundred twenty five dollars. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have or even Alvin Williams who I absolutely adored and raptors fans should loved. He played until his knees fell off. Probably at the biggest shot and Raptors history winning the playoff series for a long time the only playoff series win clinching against the New York Knicks. In Two thousand one he is adored by Raptors fans and I adored him as well but probably wouldn't have paid one hundred twenty five dollars for Alvin Williams signature at the time either and that's the scandal that rocked the NBA sort of It brought a smile to people's faces for for a few minutes. Oh I was laughing so hard a couple of times because yeah like you said there was the first development of Vince saying. Hey man that's not mine and then. I think it's Alvin Williams. Okay that's funny as it is and then Alvin Williams driving yeah. I don't think that's my either. I'm not even on the cover for crying out loud. I was loving this. Just can we go back from like what you can remember? You said the silent auction. Obviously I guess in the late Ninety S. This didn't come with any sort of certificate. I guess right like wasn't very official silent auction. You're one hundred percent correct seeds but I do remember asking for a certificate of authenticity I was I was smart enough back. As a teenager to request certificate of authenticity this was at a fundraiser. For Marfan Marfan Syndrome which my sister worked for she was. It's a nonprofit for the disease that a lot of athletes actually have if you remember Isaiah Austin in twenty fourteen He was I thought I thought he was going to be drafted and four days before the NBA draft was diagnosed with Marfan Syndrome and the NBA said. Listen it's IT'S. It's not safe for you to play basketball. And so he joined Adam Silver as an honorary pick in the draft that season but a lot of athletes and NBA players. Have the disease. It's disrupts connective tissue. And I it. It affects a lot of tall long people. So that's why basketball players and athletes have the condition. Fortunately for Isaiah Austin. He was not able to play in the NBA. And still isn't I don't believe he has gone overseas after a couple of years of treatment and has played overseas. So that's when I signed or that's what I purchased it at that at that fundraiser. And I suppose somebody from the Raptors Organization gave Marfan the organization. They're an autograph program and said Hey. This is Vince Carter autograph only with without the obviously the knowledge that John Wallace was one of those auctions. I'm sure a lot of people have seen before where the item is sort of like all the items are out. And then you go up and you write your name down on a sheet of paper of your bid is that right. Yes so there's a yeah exactly single sheets in front of every single item and I went up to this single sheet of paper that had zero bids on it at the time and the starting bid was suggestive at one twenty five and so I started off. I was the first and only name on there. I bid one hundred twenty five dollars. Nobody else bid a dollar for this John Wallace Alvin Williams. Vince Carter signature and that was that I went home with the The program that I still have to this day and that Sharpie is still shining through and you can still see the w. l. l. on there now task just to confirm you were allowed to peruse the goods before you put your head down onto this sheet of paper right because one of my favorite comments from last night was somebody who said. Was this also a blind auction but you guys tell me you've looked at it you know signatures are basically scribbles. Yeah it could DEFA definitely be a VC TO START. It could be an er at the end of it. The W is the puzzling. Yeah in the in the middle of this thing. But it's a weird. It's a weird signature for John. Wallace's well yeah basically has just signed John Wall. It looks like there's no us now. Is this John Wall signature? Yeah that'd be really trippy. Yeah no I actually. You're right I mean now we look at it and go. There's a Damn W in it like you were saying this definitely. Isn't Vince Carter? But I hear you on that that first top part looking like a VC and then and then the idea that Vince Carter just wrote after after his initials could maybe by that story. But otherwise. And I guess now how really when you look at it John. Wallace has done the thing. Where he's he's touching himself on the program you know with his signature like he didn't sign it. Sort of down by Kevin Willis or Tracy McGrady he. You know it's hitting hitting brown a little bit and done Christie's face but it really is. He starting sort about his arm there on the program. But yeah right this incredible. It's sort of. It's the Bermuda Triangle of programs. Though right I mean I look at it. I look at it now and I think there's so much going on this thing. So it's sort of puzzling. I I wouldn't have. I didn't even examine the signature all that all that much and it could have been a blind auction. It could've been for sure but now looking at it with the Charles. Oakley photo shopped uniform. I guess he was traded just before they started making these programs. Even Vince. Carter is a jersey. That doesn't have a number on it because it's his draft a photo. I assume this is nineteen ninety eight right before the season started. They started making these programs even before. The guys were in uniform but it was a program for a game for that ninety eight ninety nine season. And it's a puzzling one. It's a wild one while the good thing is is that you did get John Wallace's signature at the peak of his career. Come off the ninety eight season with the raptors eighty. Two Games fourteen points per game. That's a career high Yep I shall give you ten dollars for it to be about the going rate for John Wallace autographs on Ebay about ten bucks. Yeah we got some. I got some good comments. Saying you know that you're one hundred. Twenty five dollars is definitely worth it. Now after getting an Alvin Williams Vince Carter commenting about it. And and maybe one day we can get. Vc and Alvin talking about it on the program as well do a real deep dive and try and figure out what the heck happened at this at this silent auction but I was happy to one hundred twenty five dollars to the cause and and and it's worth a couple of hundred dollars at this point. Yeah I definitely got. My money's worth so can we confirm. Do we know if John Wallace is on twitter like he has not chimed in and one hundred percent confirmed? It's even though we're pretty sure it is because we've seen other autographs. He's not is not on twitter. I do not think so. I I googled it and I got a lawyer named John. Wallace John John Wallace. The original basketball player. But it's definitely is as people did their investigative work themselves. It looks very much like John Walls but my friend friend of the program. Mike Kaplan also tweeted or sent me his autograph of John Wallace. That he's got he's mixed fan and it's it's not a hundred percent likeness. Either so John. Wallace has gone through a few iterations autograph. I believe as well yes. This is an early vintage wallace as the true collector's. No so okay. Here's one question I have. You said you obviously didn't cherish this sports memorabilia. All that much because like you didn't have this up on a wall. You didn't have it like you know in your office. You said it was like tucked away in like a little cubby. Is that right? This was not out in your house. I've never seen this before. Absolutely right okay. It was just something that I thought Vince. Carter took a Sharpie to real quickly and handed it off to a staffer at the raptors. I assume and because there was no certificate of authenticity. I wasn't card collecting game back then so I did have a somewhat of a nose for a try understanding that things were fake out there. And so yeah. It was just something that I got and I had never never really Thought too much about what's totally forgotten about it. I thought my most random piece was the back-to-back bluejays ninety two ninety. Three world series can until I found that visa. It got me look. I was pretty happy about it. We got me looking at Divan. Whites triple triple play. That wasn't over and over and over again last night the VC thing as you. I'm sure you guys wouldn't put it on a wall. Either right no no. I don't think so yeah. I don't think I'm hanging up program. It's not that big either right like I mean. It's just the size of a sheet of paper maybe even smaller than that. It's a standard by eleven. A great addition to a shrine. Like if you already have a Vince Carter Alvin Williams or John Wallace Shrine. Shurmur throw a program up there but it's probably not a standalone piece of Art Yeah but now you could take like you could take the tweets almost print them cool like sorta montage sorta piece of art really telling the story here of this mysterious autograph. I don't know there's something there definitely got some tweet. Suggesting that a start printing those tweets and frame them Like have you flip through the program or have you never even opened it just pretty sure I have never opened oils from your hands will ruin the program very dangerous. It's like a comic book. Yeah you say that and I am pretty astonished at how the Sharpie has lasted. This is twenty two years we're talking. It's twenty twenty. This was signed in nineteen ninety. Eight I mean the the sharp has faded somewhat. I didn't put it in any sort of protective scrudem case or anything. It's just a it's it's living on its own. It's it's pretty impressive. That vce side vce. I still don't believe that he didn't sign and then And then we'll signed it at the bottom or as you said skates we VC. Leave we will see that to a deal do you have any other raptors or MBA memorabilia? That is signed by anyone else. Because now I'm worried that all the stuff you might have is just straight up. No I I went through quickly This other box that I have from when I was a kid. The it's one of those old card boxes the sort of like a white paper on the outside their cardboard but it's it's white on the outside but I got a bit of a larger one. That's sort of the size of eight by eleven that is labeled with bubble letters with smelly markers that I that I made on on top of it all the signatures from each NHL team something to that effect. So so. Because I 'cause I mailed and requested autographs from each of the NHL teams back. When I was I don't know eight or something and so there's a bunch of photos in there. I met Rick Talk at once. Unless that wasn't the real everything is a sham. Now Yeah Right. So there's Iran tug nut who knows it could be a Rick Tavarez that because Darren pooper. There's some there's some fakes in there. I always astonished. There's definitely some pen to paper. There's some sharp you to paper. There's some print That that weren't on whatsoever. But I was always taken aback when I saw an actual autograph. So yeah there's some some definitely definitely some autographs in there and it's it's odd to going back to the ninety eight ninety nine season. This was the lockout shortened season in the NBA. There was time for people to to verify. Things So put the proper number of Charles Oakley Jersey on their Flank Jersey. Charles Oakley is in a Blank Jersey. Grabbing a rebound. It's a weird or even. Vc The legend. That is Vince. Carter doesn't have a number on his Jersey but the raptors thought there on the up and up this and I guess I did too. I guess I did too snapshot is looking at this thing. You Got Tracy McGrady on this thing in a rafters uniform yet. Vince Carter. This was this was. This was a good time in raptors lower before things Phil Apart. I am fascinated by like where the mistake happened or the relaying of information went wrong. Was it the raptors sending this to the foundation for their silent auction and they thought like they mistakenly said Oh. Here's a signed Vince. Carter Program or was it the foundation who received this and then like John Wallace. Who the heck's going to bid on that looks enough like Vince Carter. Let's just throw Vince. Carter Down Nixon Really. I mean I think those are the only two the two avenues where could have gone wrong right? I think there's a third I wouldn't put the onus on the The foundation trying to pull the wool over my seventeen year old. Oh No oh come on now. This is a nonprofit. For God's Okay I think the what was told to the foundation by the Raptors organization was. We'll get you something. Probably they're told that. Hey we'll get you vince. Carter's autograph and then there probably wasn't any sort of a background check done when they got this The person didn't know anything about basketball. I was told I my sister did. Tell me that The the organiser had no idea what basketball was and so she heard bits Carter and so she went with it. I know I know. Vince is obviously a raptors legend NBA. Legend but I do like that. Is John Wallace? Because from what? I always remember John Wallace doing that. Slick move or he would turn his back to the defender and then go behind his back with the dribble and then sort of cup. It and go base. I always remember calling that the John Wallace which he obviously had done at one point sort of like an an one looking type of move a street legend type of move so at least at least he's got echo inform and like say pretty had a pretty good year for their APPs. Sounds like you got a buyer tassie very interested in buying. This seems like you and Mike Kaplan who has a knicks very pumped. I guess you throw that move. I have no recollection of that. But he seems to be a bit of a New York legend you've played at Syracuse. And maybe he's got some New York street ball in them guessing. Yeah I really I want this now to be like this this piece of this piece of memorabilia this raptors tonight program. I want this to be like a secret. Seen in uncut gems where before Cagey is bidding on the Opel? We've got Kaplan me. Bidding on this antacid overtake opened. It goes for at least one hundred and fifty dollars or something like that they gotta slipped into the into the BLU ray. Dvd RELEASE OF UNCUT GEMS. I think there's something there as long as John Wallace. The lawyer doesn't get involved. I think we're good any other questions when it comes to this trae not any other questions just generally. I'm kind of over true. Crime podcast but in the quarantine like this. This is exactly the kind of true crime content we need and I'm sure you guys don't have any more questions but throw some more insults at me. Pretend your twitter for a second because twitter. Absolutely they confirmed it. They were the captain obvious afterwards for hours and hours and hours. Oh yeah urine. Idiot is a huge W in the middle of it. Lots of jokes the blind auction as he said lots of good ones so go ahead. Rip Me a quick quick new joke. Go ahead you're a good sport and March sucked. So this was a great way to end the actual. Because I was like I said in tears seeing this coming our agents love this. I mean they were. They were like right in our WHATSAPP group chat. Oh my God jess Vince. Carter says that's not him now? Alvin Williams says that's not him so no no no. We'll let twitter come with the hilarious jokes and insults and you fool and stuff like that. This was great. So let's call it there Yeah the case of the mysterious raptors autograph. It is salt. We think John Wallace but until I hear it from his mouth Specifically who knows it could be anybody's it's probably Lee Ellis. He likes to CY. Nba players names. When it's not him so I'm GonNa go with Lee Ellis until John. Wallace tells US otherwise all right we will have a brand new beach step in podcast coming up soon later today here on Wednesday so make sure you subscribe and download the podcast. Wherever you listen to podcasts. We'll talk to you guys soon.

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Vince Carter retrospective & NBA schedule breakdown

Open Floor: SI's NBA Show

00:00 sec | 4 months ago

Vince Carter retrospective & NBA schedule breakdown

"What's up before Globe this is Ben Golfer was the Washington Post I am joined on the other line as always by Michael the Pie Pena now Michael. We recorded last Thursday and pretty quickly after we recorded something that I would consider to be. Newsworthy not necessarily a surprise, but after twenty-two NBA seasons Vince Carter the former lottery. Pick Slam Dunk. Contest Chipita Olympic gold medalist and everything else formally announced his retirement. I was a long career with you. Know many many chapters from the Toronto Raptors to. The New Jersey Nets, two stints with the Orlando Magic and the Dallas Mavericks and the Phoenix Sons, and your favorite team, whoever they might have been a vince was everywhere, but I thought we should double back today Michael and maybe show him you know his his. Proper do his proper respect and dig into some of the biggest burning questions about Vince Carter's career. How does that sound? I'm greatly looking forward to this conversation with you. I'm going to start off with the easiest one. Did you like love dislike. Hey, Vince Carter, you know when you're looking back stepping back and taking it all into account. Where do you fall on the on the range of emotions, because I'll be honest I never really liked Vince Carter. You never liked him. Really Not really Michael. I gotta say he fell into that category for me of like the generation of the next. Jordan's and I just despised all of them. You know it's sort of like. You're walking around the outlet mall. And you see the US Polo. Association and they've got Ralph Laurens logo. They've got polo in the name and you're standing there. Looking at it like come on, guys like just get yourself. It's your own thing and I'm not saying this solely to try to disrespect him. I felt this way about all those guys whether it's stackhouse, even Kobe Bryant I mean the list goes on. It just bothered me that anyone would be put in that same conversation as MJ but I know there's a lot of people and there's a couple of years. Between US Michael. I think I'm a few years older than you. There's a lot of people your age range who love Vince Carter and I know a lot of other podcasters out there whether it's the no dunk skies, I mean they love have always loved Vince Carter. So. Where do you fall on the spectrum? I personally don't recall ever having an emotional connection to Vince Carter either way. I didn't love him I didn't hate him. I, would it up is mostly indifferent. He amazed me in a lot of ways obviously with his athleticism. I think the two thousand slam dunk contest was a pivotal moment in my just life as an NBA Fan, I mean I love the NBA before that but. That night was just so incredible and so memorable for a lot of reasons. If you're like a twelve year, old kid like I was at the time. But it's like going back and kind of looking at his career now. Just as a whole, there aren't too many. Wow moments besides just like the endgame dunks legacy to me. Is more about longevity than peak, which is really kind of depressing and kind of a shame and I it saying that statement feels like I'm holding something against him, but. Most of his career was as a role player as opposed to being a star, and he might have been the best player ever that I can think of at morphing from one level of status to another without winding about it. I mean not everyone has the humility to do that. So props to him on Matt regarding props to him for staying in. In the League as long as he did, and loving basketball as much as he does, but in terms of comparing him to some of the other all time greats, even just the all time greats from that era. He just comes up short to me and he's not as significant. No I, hear you for sure. Let's dig into this because you know if. If we're describing a guy whose nickname is half man half amazing, who had arguably the greatest dunk contests performance ever who literally jumped over seven foot to human being during a game to have arguably the greatest dunk of all time, a guy who came through the most blueblood program of all North Carolina a guy who is a certified all star I think. Think for like eight straight seasons. What was it about Vince Carter? That didn't allow him to kind of break through and capture your heart because I'm sensing some coldness from you Michael. It's like this guy. If you sort of central casting, right, it's like if you just say Oh. Yeah, what Carolina you know is amazing. dunker. Great Score All Star level player. Should We be naturally kind of magnetized towards a player like that, but I agree with you I I never really felt that emotional bond was a his personality. Was it just the lack of rain like we never saw him? Get over the Hump, so people didn't feel Kinda bought into his story. Was it something to do with how he carried himself in Toronto? where I know, he alienated a lot of the fans. They're. Forcing his way out. How would you kind of breakdown this recipe for like why? We don't love in starter? I would say he's he's kind of. He epitomizes disappointment and a lot of ways I mean. He didn't get out of the second round until he was thirty three years old with the Orlando Magic in two thousand ten, and even that team, which he led them in usage and I believe he was second in scoring behind Dwight Howard like that team fifty nine games, and I personally was never like afraid of them. They didn't strike me as a great team as a championship caliber team because Vince Carter had this huge role there, so he just never. Like I'm trying to think of. He was never the best player on a championship contender, a true championship contender and you know it's really funny like I went back and watched the two thousand one. Infamous two thousand one game seven second round against the Philadelphia Seventy sixers where he. Decides to he rightfully decides to attend his own graduation at the University of North Carolina and then fly to Philadelphia the same day, and he has criticized at the time for it because people were really dumb back then, and I'm sure people would still criticize them now, and they would be dumb today education. Why would you ever? Why would you ever value? Education Michael Kills me these athletes and those are the same people that criticize players for coming straight out of high school. They needed to stay in college basketball for all four years. Probably, so you can't win with some people, but I went back and I watch that game, and so the you know Vince doesn't play particularly great in it. He finishes six for eighteen from the floor. He scores Twenty nine assists seven boards. Three steals two blocks. Zero turnovers plays all forty eight minutes. Raptors lose by one. and. He misses a buzzer beater. That would've won the game. Down One as I said, and from the from the left corner and You know I kind of was thinking after watching that game this morning like. That shot and the Raptors advanced to the conference finals where they would have faced this bucks team that they could have beaten I think, and then they go to the the the the events of the finals after that where they probably would get crushed by the Lakers, but like does Vince Carter's whole career trajectory change if he makes that shot like I, don't. I don't know maybe I'm putting too much on this one play, and it's just kind of in my mind right now, but for a guy that had so many struggles in the postseason year after year and As. You mentioned the situation in Toronto where it was really ugly towards the end, and the fans really turned on him and I think he turned on the organization and it was really sour. Shot and they go to the conference finals and he performs pretty well there I think it could have been rewritten differently. Yeah. It's really interesting so I see a couple of things happening. I mean first of all. I think that. He doesn't have the underdog. Label to to us at all I mean he's so naturally gifted. He makes the sport look so easy that the average. Joe Can't necessarily relate to him in terms of how he plays like you can't exactly go out to the playground and be like all right. I'm going to do a three sixty windmill on a ten foot hoop like it's nothing I mean. We can't do that right so. The love that Guy Iverson got from so many people for be a heart of a champion. This warrior type player Oh you know pound for pound. The greatest guy like all of those fans are just not available Vince because he's just too gifted, right? At the same time. The types of players who have those gifts usually glorified almost exclusively in the Jordan mold for winning right, so it's like six rings versus five rings versus Dwayne Wade calling himself trace right when he got the three rings. Lebron, we know his ring count by heart all those guys that sort of like the first line of their legacy and for Vince Zero, and not only is zero as you're mentioning. Not even finals appearances in its very rarely conference finals, appearances and there's nothing. When it comes to him being the main guy you know even when he's teamed with really good players know it's still pretty empty, so those types of moments that would pull us in. If he hits that three pointer well, he would have a lot more diehard fans. That's for sure. He would definitely had more leash with the rappers if he hits that one. One shot, so I don't know if his career trajectory in terms of you know. Does he actually go on to win a title? I'm not sure that would change if he makes that basket, but I think his reputation is certainly different, and it's not all just because he missed one shot. It's because he wasn't able to Kinda. Get back to that same peak. During his prime, and when you look throughout his twenty s I was really Kinda surprised by how few all NBA appearances he had. I think you only had to during his career. And part of that is because there's lots of other good guards you know in in that same time frame but I also think part of it is just like he was sort of cursed as being very good, but not great, and you know in hindsight as time passes. You know I'm definitely the type of person to be hard on guys if they don't win enough I think you probably know that about me. as time passes though and he does start to evolve into these other roles Michael i. do think that we wind up maybe letting him off the hook a little bit like not holding the early stuff against him quite as much because he sort of went somewhere where nobody else did. Did I mean Jordan had to be the number one option even on the wizards down to his very final game. Right with Kobe in the last season. You know it got kind of laughable with guys like Diangelo, just standing around watching him go, and he's still China, be that number one alpha option every single night, Vince Carter basically gave that up not too late after his thirtieth birthday and kept playing for another decade. That's pretty wild. Yeah and I think building on just a lot of what you just said, particularly with someone who is just so physically imposing early in his career and can basically do whatever he wants. Like he never lived up to that standard and that bar that he set for himself, and I think a lot of that has to do with just his personality and I mean this guy is just like you watch the two thousand slam dunk contest and there are between dunk. on-court interviews that are televised and he is just so polite. And he's so humble throughout his entire career. There's a quick little story about Vince Carter. Which I read this morning in this article that was published on ESPN. Dot Com back in two thousand, where when he was a junior in high school, his scoring average dropped heading into his senior year, because he was so worried about setting up team mates, and wearing about where his teammates were going to go to college new wanted them all to look good. Can you imagine Kobe Bryant? Is doing that. I mean I was just going to say we don't call that the mumble mentality doing. No, we do not I mean he is the selflessness that allowed him to play for so long, and to swallow his own pride, and you know come off the bench and be a spot up three point shooter. But. Like, and and again there's nothing necessarily wrong with having that attitude, but when you like I also think it kind of. It cuts into the the the peak that we were kind of robbed of if he had a different kind of mentality, if his mindset was more like Russell, Westbrook. Sir Kobe Bryant, so these guys who just want to rip your throat out at every chance, but that's just never who Vince Carter was, and it's. It's like Kinda. Just disappointing I don't really know any other way to put I mean take it to that. Super Hall of fame level. You've got edges be. Be, not only like a ninety nine point, nine percent athlete, but also from a comp- competitor standpoint. You've got to be you know ninety nine point nine percent there, too, and I think that's the question where you know, people might have asked over the years like. Does this guy wanted as badly as some of his contemporaries, and that's a really tough question. We could never get into a person's head, but I think that one maybe did loom over him. At the same time, I feel a little bit of sympathy for him because it felt like he was the guy who just. Barely missing out on the party, you know what I mean like. He goes to new. Jersey and they had been to the final two years in a row, and then he never gets never gets there. He goes to Orlando like one year after they're in the finals, they? They fall out in the conference finals. GOES TO PHOENIX OR I guess Dallas they had just won. The finals He never gets out of the first round. I think in Dallas that he goes to Phoenix. They had been in the Western Conference finals. He doesn't even make the playoffs. It's like you know when he gets to Memphis, he never really reach the same heights as they did. You know sort of in the peak grit and grind era. Is just like every step of the way. He was like fifteen minutes too late for the glory. If that makes sense, it's just. When that happens like four or five times in a row, you feel bad for a guy and it also says something about those organizations where they're trying to keep their. Momentum going and they're turning to Vince Carter as like. Hey, this guy could be a key role player for us, so he could be a a fourth or fifth starter, or he could be a key guy off the bench floorspace or I mean he had all these different roles with those teams and yet. It never quite quite goes to plan I. Guess just symbolizes his entire career a little bit, but I feel like. Maybe we're being harsh on him, and I WANNA. Ask you this question. Is he a hall of Famer when you add it all up, would you add some of the big moments that we talked about when you add that Olympic gold medal? When you talk about the longevity I mean nobody else NBA history, not even any of the senators who just hung around forever. A number managed to play twenty two seasons when you look at the the personality that you're describing where he's being a great mentor to his teammates late in his career, but also just kind of. Know a major NBA citizen. If you want to call them that in most likely about to enjoy a long media career here going forward as well. Do you think that hall of fame voters will look past the lack of rings, and the only the to all NBA selections, and conclude you know what this guy is a hall of Famer. Are you asking me do I? Think he'll be in the hall of Famer? If I would vote him into the hall of fame. I asked you every question Michael One. Every answer that you've got, but it's an important distinction. Let's okay so I do think he will go to the hall of fame. I think he's very likable I. think that people really respect the longevity factor I think when you talk about. I guess like just the numbers throughout his entire career. They're good enough to get in. It's like twenty four thousand points or something even more than that in his entire career. It's just like the numbers are really difficult to ignore, and if you look at basketball reference, which has this metric that kind of measures? What the percentages of you actually getting in his as ninety four point five percent right now so i. Think statistically. Just who he's been what he's meant to the League. The the ridiculous dogs which I mean they're all incredible and anyone should like press. Pause on this episode right now. Go to Youtube and watch them if you want to. Because they're they just never get old. But for those factors. I think that he will make it if I were personally voting I. Don't think he's a hall of Famer. Like I. Just a the case just isn't there for me. I mean he made. It's tricky for me. I I hear what you're saying for sure I mean part of it is the accumulation factor right, so he's got twenty five thousand career points. He's got six thousand career rebounds. Forty seven hundred career says I'm rounding here. A little bit more than a thousand steals almost a thousand blocks so I imagine there aren't very many players in NBA history. Who can match all of those? Just because you know? He played for so long I think also he's got something like ten straight years of twenty plus point game averages, which is probably not a signature thing, not very many people have done that So is what's holding him back for you. The the peak in terms of winning is that team success is that you're holding against him success, and then also like individually I mean the twenty points per game in ten straight years, or whatever it is is obviously impressive. He only made two all NBA teams. As you said earlier in his whole career, he made zero all NBA teams. After two thousand one, he never finished higher than tenth for MVP in his entire career. It's. Bad scares his career scoring averages sixteen points per game I'm I'm kind of nitpicking there? Because he did take all these different roles, and he played for longer than a lot of other guys, and so it's kind of. It's a difficult dance. You're trying to do when you're criticizing him for playing so long, but he. The facts are that he only averaged sixteen points per game in his career played for eight teams and was traded four times including on draft night. Waived the Phoenix Suns. The only time he got out of the second round, was in two, thousand, ten with the magic, and they were favored to beat the Boston Celtics and lost fell down three Oh in that series in Vince Carter I? Mean you kind of have to put a little bit of the blame at his doorstep there so when you Pique as he did I, think after his third year in the NBA and you have to remember. He entered the League at twenty two years old, so he comes in, and he's basically already a star. When you peak after your third year I, just think that that's really problematic and never really had a signature moment in the postseason. He never really had a I mean his. His apex is like the Slam Dunk contest, which it's probably the greatest slam dunk contests performance of all time, but still it's the slam dunk contest. That's the first thing you think of when you think about Vince, Carter, isn't it? Yeah you're saying is. You're not going to be voting in Zach Levine. Now. Here's here's my thing. We have a problem because Mitch Richmond is in the Hall of fame. And so if that's if that's the bar. I have a really hard time saying. Mitch Richmond yes. Vince Carter no now I'm. That means we have to tighten up? WHO's actually gotten in but I agree my first instinct I was waiting. This question was to be like you know Hala very good you know. Whatever you WANNA, call it, but really not. And all time legend all-time Gray, but I do think that we the bar has come down here so far that I do think he's going to get in. I think he get in pretty easily. to be honest. Let me ask you on that dunk contest. Is the elbow dunk. The greatest in a dunk contests, or do you have a another one that you favor the honey dip cookie jar? Really interesting that you brought that up, i. that's not the first one I think of when I think about that dunk contest, although I will say, it might be the most physically impressive, but. What I think about I. Like the first one where he just comes out, and he does this ridiculous like three sixty windmill I. don't even know how to describe that dunk, but he just gets it pulls it off out of nowhere I. Try with this ridiculous ferocity. And the camera cuts away right away to shack. Who's got his gigantic camcorder? KGB's got his camcorder. These guys are just they're flummoxed. They've never seen anything like it. And it just kind of set the tone for the rest of the night. So like that's the one I I think of when I think about that night in Oakland and when I think about that contest, but when he no. On that one have you ever been at like a college football game or a sporting event where they do the flyover with the military jets? Data would Vince Carter, did and that I agree. He was like his own military flyover. where it's just like. Yeah, we're going to be flexing our muscles right now as an entire country. Here's the best that our military has to offer. That's Vince Carter, going out there, doing the three sixty with the windmill bringing down by his hip. It's a crazy dunk I didn't mean to overlook that one, but here's why I think that elbow dunk is even better and arguably the best. You go back through and watch a lot of those dunk contests. I mean everybody will say along the way there. It got pretty stale and there's a lot of gimmicks whether it's. Sedgwick Sabaot with the blindfold. I mean. You know Bradbury's trying to do his thing? Leading up to the moment, the dunk contest was in a pretty rough spot. And, the guys today I mean they have legitimate coaches. You know where they're like helping them crafts these different You know dunk ideas orchestrating it. I mean Aaron Gordon's bringing the TIKTOK girls out onto the court. You know it's just like it's pretty wild, right? But the the thing it was sort of like the moon landing with that elbow dunk where he does it and the reaction is not like you know everybody's freaking out. Oh, it's it's so amazing! Everyone's looking around. Like what did he just do? They're asking that question. Did he just put his elbow into the basket? Like? Are you even allowed to do that? And everyone's trying to calculate like how many other players could do that? Is that even something? Something that someone else could try to replicate. This was a game of horse like could Tracy McGrady go and do the exact same dunk. Then I know for me when I was watching it I was like worried about his ligaments like Oh my God like his arm, going to fall off from doing that seems really dangerous. Actually had a middle school teacher I'm not going to call them out by name, but he lost a finger in a net. And so he was, he had nine fingers. Wow! Yeah. In a basketball net so you could imagine my horror writer on that same time of my life thinking about Mr pr call him when Vince Carter could lose his entire arm in the RIM, trying to show off what an amazing dunk is So I guess it's just the combination of the physical feats being able to do it, but the mental creativity just shatter all expectations for a dunk contest with that Deng to me. It's my favourite dunk contests dunk of all time. Including I would put it over. Majority and stuff, which has kind of held up, maybe as iconic because of who he is as a player, the only people who come close to me are Zach Levine and Erin Gordon I mean. The dunk is ridiculously creative. So that one would be kind of in that same conversation, Levin with some of the stuff that he's doing. It's almost too difficult to describe and there are very few other humans on the planet. WHO COULD KINDA MIMIC? His very best work, but I think that one takes the cake man, I think that's the very best wedding of cake. I stand for Gerald. Green who blew the candle cupcake out on the back of the Rim and still completed the dunk. which that's incredible, so let me ask you on that well. That's a great one. Does Vince Carter. Deserve credit for creativity that came over the next ten dunk contest, right everyone kind of looking back and being like well Vince at a pretty high bar, so I better like really dig deep to try to come up with something that could be in that same category. Thence was like the standard for years. He probably I don't WanNA. Take anything away from Zach Levine or Aaron Gordon or even like Shutout Blake Griffin and Javale McGee and twenty eleven, which I think is one of the more underrated dunk contest going back. But Vince diving. Vince Carter set the standard and the dunk contest that immediately followed that one are just so terrible, because everyone like everyone who thinking about Vince and like you have poor Jason. Richardson coming out and I don't remember any of Jason. Richardson's Dunks and I think he won the contest more. He was really good, but that's the thing it's like. Vince did it already so now you know, and if you go back and watch Jason Richardson's dunks. Technically, they're brilliant. I mean he's got that power. He's got the finesse he's got the. The in air ball handling, which is very tricky. I mean he's kind of doing it all, but yeah you're you're watching. You know the the next version season two and Vince already did it okay well. We're on this subject of dunks and were hyping up Vince, Carter for them. I mentioned the dunk of death earlier. You know two thousand Olympics. He jumps up and over Frederick vice or Weiss, the seven, two French Center, and completes just a ridiculously powerful. What handed Deng Pumps? The air cagey comes over to shove amount of celebration. Have you ever seen a better in game dunk anywhere anytime? And what would you say might be in the category with with that dunk? In terms of like the greatest. So. I think it's in arguably the greatest in game dunk of all time I mean. It ended I. How even pronouncing Frederick Federick Weiss? We'll just say Frederick ways for the purpose of this podcast. It ended his career. I don't think he played a minute. He was a lottery pick by the New York. Knicks, I think he play minute in the NBA. Can't blame, her. For that backing out his the Reichel. Back and watch it like Kevin Garnett, just like blacks out right afterwards and I. It's like one of the funniest things I've ever seen in a basketball game. I mean like. He let me just hop in their real. Quick Michael. Because the Cagey reaction so cool I don't know if people saw this on twitter, I had never heard this story, but apparently that USA Olympic team had a bounty. If you could post, her is damning. They were gonNA like you know. Put their money together and give someone a million dollars if they dumped on Yao Ming, and apparently as tells it in that moment. He. He like kind of lost track of who they were playing against, and he thought Vince had dunked over Yao Ming and basically earned the million dollar bounty, and so he was like going up to Vince Carter to be like yeah man. You got your money even before he obviously realized that it W-. They weren't even playing China. That story is great and I WANNA know about all bounties in NBA especially post rising bounties I need to know about a this. This is why Kevin Net is just like in a class of himself like just an all time time NBA character. So I. Think it's the greatest in game dunk of all time I. DON'T I. Don't know how anyone could argue against it, but I will say that you know. There is a tiny bit of an astros right because it was in Olympic basketball, it was not in the NBA, so I went back and I watched some Vinci's better dunks in like in game NBA dunks that weren't fast on a fast break because he had his fair share, fast-break situations that just like like he had a three sixty as a rookie against the cavs. That was just like one of. The most butter it's like butter and a pan when he left the ground But he had some other ones particularly early in his career, there were ridiculous as a rookie in nineteen ninety nine, he he dunked over to Cambay Matombo at the Rim Apex Apex just like hung just longer than he did got higher than to Cambay did. Was So confident to, and he had such big hands where he could palm the ball and just. One of the better dunks you'll ever see. He had this which this dunk that I completely forgot about where he blows by Chris. Mullin Baseline and Rick. Smith's in the pacers bricks mets kind of comes over from the opposite block to contest it, but backs out at the last second, and Vince thinks that Rick. Smith is GonNa try to to block a shot, so he takes off instead of dunking it on the same side of the hoop as where he took off from he kind of he floats beneath the Rim and reverses it and just throw down incredibly hard over his head, one of the most ridiculously athletic things you'll ever see a basketball player do against other professional basketball players. But I WANNA shout out my personal favorite Vince Carter Dunk of all time which I think might even be more impressive just because it was who was on then the dunk of death. which is. Shortly after he gets traded to the nets, the nets are playing the Miami Heat Down in Miami. and Vince Carter. half-court situation and he's coming to. He's driving towards the basket. There's loose ball picks it up driving towards the basket. He sees Alonzo Mourning Alonzo. Mourning has great position. He wasn't caught off guard at all. and Vince Carter just unleashes this fury on Alonzo. Mourning, that I have not seen since like no one has done done anyone harder than Vince. Carter Dunk Don Alonzo. Mourning their people need to go wires that one it is like Vince. Carter Cox the ball back. He's in the air for like twenty five seconds. The degree of difficulty is astronomical that to me is just the pinnacle of his career, probably a desire, the dunk contest and add on a lake. That I. Don't think that that dunk was what spawned the Alonzo Mourning Gift but. It should have because it's ridiculous. It's funny when he completes those kinds of Dunks, you actually you do see like the inner anger. Come out every once in a while, and you just can't help, but think man exactly I play with that frosty the the entire way where it is his career go. I actually think that dunk of death is. The Greatest Dunk in game of all time and I think that we shouldn't hit the asterisk button on the fact that it came in the Olympics and here's why. I thought Fredric. Weiss play pretty good defense. All all things considered right I mean. It's a loose ball scenario. Vince has has the ball run. The three point line takes a couple of dribbles to get himself ready to take off. Weiss gets into a position. He said he is ready to take the charge. He is outside the cylinder or whatever else you want, call it like he's in a reasonable defensive position. He is ready to rock. And ultimately a guy just jumped over the top of him. That's ridiculous. There's no reason for anyone to assume that that was about to happen. And if Vince hadn't cleared him, he would have taken the charge. Right my favorite part of that dunk and there's a lot of them. But if you go frame by frame now after after Carter lands right, and it's amazing because he goes like. Spread, Eagle looks exactly like the man logo. He actually finishes the finish which we always see guys screw up right like it's so easy to back rim that I mean usually I front remit, Michael when I'm jumping over people. You know it's just it's very difficult or not. Everyone can just master perfectly, but it's it's very easy to try to do like the Blake Griffin throw dunk where you're just fling at the hoop and maybe hits back rim. He hits a completely cleanly lands at celebrates, but the best moment is when Weiss looks back up over his shoulder at the basket. As if like somehow that was going to explain what had just happened like if he just looked at the rim and the hoop long enough he would be able to kind of comprehend that he just got completely hurdled. It's amazing the look on his face. He looks kind of like ghost. He can't really wrap his mind around and I. Think he said recently that was the moment he realized that humans could fly. Beautifully put by him. And ultimately like I don't think he needs to be remembered. You know like a Brandon Knight or some of those guys where they're just like. Oh, they're the victim like I mean obviously he is on the wrong side of that dunk, but he has nothing to be ashamed. Ben, you know what I mean. This is the first line of his obituary like this is. This is his stamp as a human being. I'm just. Trying to stand up for the Little Guy. Who's actually a big I? Miss One because he pretty much played it right it just. He got out plate and there's no shame. It is a little bit. I want to jump in real quick with a quick personal anecdote that. Kind of puts me in the in the Frederick Weiss driver seat It's similar. It's not exactly the same. No one really dunked on me, but when I was playing intramural basketball freshman year in college. We went up against a team that had. Like three or four guys on it that probably should have been playing D., one basketball and I. Don't know why they were in our intramural league. They should not have been allowed. They were absolutely absurd. And, so we're losing by probably I dunno twenty points like three minutes into the game. And for some reason I picked off a pass and I'm headed the other way fast break layup and I hear these footsteps coming I know this dude is galloping to try to block my shot and so I don't even leave my feet to attempt the layup. Because I. Just want to get the ball up off the glasses quickly as possible. And as I let go of the ball, this man I look up and I see. This man's rear end and he hurdled me and pinned the ball or he's slapped a ball. Basically so hard off the glass. It didn't land until it got to mid court, and that's when I knew that I was never gonNA. Be a good basketball player. That was the moment where it was like all right I just KINDA WANNA retire. One of the most one of the most humiliating things I think anyone can ever go through and I just I. I hope you're giving me credit for telling that story on the PODCAST. Was the man's name Lebron James. Like. How do we build this story up to help you save face Michael. I wish it was Lebron James it was actually Jordan. Crawford is who did it and Nike had to confiscate all the tapes and all the footage, but. Incredible, you're very brave for telling that story. that. Dad made me kind of cringe a little bit on your behalf like I don't know. I got like reverse goosebumps of you know in any case, amazing story, a couple final. Quick Vince Carter questions here before we pivot Michael I mentioned some of his contemporaries like a I Wade Lebron. Guys kind of from that particular era where it's you know early, two thousands and into the two thousands. Of those types of players even Tracy McGrady. Where do you have Vince the couple? All those guys in terms of guys that you liked or you enjoyed watching. I don't want to Belabor this point but I just I'm trying to stack up compared to the other guys, the biggest names from that time period for me. He's behind Aldo. And I'm no Tracy McGrady Stan really I think the he suffered from some of the same questions advanced in terms of getting over the Hump and winning and everything else, but if you're saying like who's just kind of a more raw talented. Basketball player I think take t Mac I would definitely take iris crew over Carter, and then guys like Lebron. Weight I feel like are easily cuts above where Carter landed. And you could say the same thing obviously for Kobe as well anyone else. You would say that you'd have Carter. Or under or where you come now. He's behind all those guys Iverson. Braun weighed McGrady. Kobe I mean he's pretty firmly. not at that level in terms of peak and just the overall impressiveness of careers I mean. Like McGrady was in a Lotta ways wasted talent I don't think he applied himself to the degree that he probably should have and could have. But, at least he won two scoring titles, and he made five more all NBA teams then Vince Carter did. So when I'm trying to compare Vince to some respectable names throughout history that are in the hall of fame. Like I. Think Maybe Grant Hill might be the closest comparison justice like from the perspective of. Someone who was just ridiculous out the gate, and the sky was the limit, and he had the potential to be the face of the League and then. Injuries Kinda short-circuited Carter, but they obviously short circuited Grant Hill's career a lot more, and they forced him to be this role player who played until he was forty years old, and that's kind of where the similarities are but grant hill. You know made five all NBA teams and I think he's his apex was better. He was a better all around player than Vince. Carter was as well just a better playmaker, so that's Kinda the only comparison I have there, but even grant hill I'm still putting him above Vince. Yeah I'm with you on that. It's an excellent comparison, so just for context Sake Grant Hill averaged sixteen, six and four, Vince averaged sixteen, four and three I mean that's pretty darn similar both playing over a thousand games. I would agree that grant hill was a better player with a higher peak. But similar trajectories like you're mentioning again I. Think if grant gets in, I think of incidents in you know for the hall of fame last question for you and I think that you know some Vinci's diehards certainly feel this one. Very personally you know. His last game came in March, they basically played it after it became clear, the corona virus was probably going to be shutting down the League as a whole. It was that weird Wednesday night. Where go bare test positive, but the other games keep playing and then everybody realizes okay. You know after tonight. The whole thing is going to be soon. Definitely suspended, and we don't know where it's going. Because of that. Atlanta's coach. You know checked Vince Carter into the final game in overtime. It was sort of already out of hand they they dropped the play Vince Carter. The Knicks don't garden and Carter Berries of three from the top of the key as his slash shot and gets a really nice standing ovation from the crowd down there. So kind of a bittersweet way for him to go out, you know in terms of he gets the Nice sendoff, but at the same time you know his his career kind of ended before he expected by at least a month because of the corona virus meal. What do you make of that and like just this impact that krona virus could have on some of these different guys careers. In ways that maybe we haven't even thought about or discussed yet sucks I also just before I answer your question. I want to thank you for giving the New York Knicks credit for not guarding Carter for the reasons that you outlined as opposed to just them not guarding anyone because they didn't play defense all season. No I know. The Knicks have shown the utmost respect to NBA legends and non legends I mean basically anyone. If you need to get a free three point zero for. The Knicks or your? The whole thing is it's terrible like. I kind of wish that there was this Vince Carter provision or something where he was able to just signed with a contender and compete in the playoffs if he wanted to I, don't even know if that would be something. He'd be interested in, but he's kind of shied away from where. Is Sort of like when they let Dirk! Nowitzki, being all star like his last season. That's what you have in mind, Wade, yeah. I mean kind of accept. This would be a lot. Less president is in terms of it would clearly breaking rules. But yeah, no I think that like. It would be just fun to see Vince Carter play again and he was not super terrible in Atlanta I'm in the Atlanta Hawks were a bad team and he was doing the most. He could with what he had around him. but he's obviously like I mean these past forties, the only player in NBA history to play in four different decades I believe. And like I don't know. He's kind of shied away from a ring chasing in these latter. Years of his career which is. Both admirable and disappointing like I want him to be a little more selfish. I want him to go. Maybe the David West route as someone just POPs in my head, who clearly wanted to win a ring and wasn't ashamed of it. Like why wouldn't Vince Carter instead of taking the the role of the locker room, leader and someone who could? Be This presence for young players like trae young. Like just get your ring earliest. Compete for the ring. I mean he could have he. I feel like he could have. Not a humongous role on a championship contender, but someone who could get on the court in some capacity in a rotation, am I? Yeah if you're the Lakers, would you rather have Vince Carter Jr? Smith Dion waiters. You know I mean I think I'd rather have a party with you for a lot of the like on and off court reasons for sure. Yeah so that's proves your point I mean you're also saying like. He's playing pretty well this year in Atlanta I. Mean There's a realistic scenario that he could come back and tried to go for another year if he wanted to I. Mean I think that he's. Not been the same guy for a number of years, but if we're saying veteran minimum contract like why not he probably could have done it. I listened to his podcast where he was explaining his retirement, and the word golf came up a lot Michael Golfers. Like thirty. Like. Thirty five times probably the first ten minutes, so I think that it's a little bit easier to spend the next nine months when we're all just living uncertain lives out there getting an eighteen or thirty six every day as compared to trying to see. Do you have to do to stay in NBA shape and wait for next year? Whenever that might come all right Michael I, want to thank you first of all for that deep dive into Vince Carter's legacy career respectively at. But I do think we should pivot because on Friday the NBA released its schedule and I'll be honest. This was not like a typical preseason released were all like ranking the fifty best games and looking at the Christmas slate, and everything else means obviously a little bit different. Because we're dealing with you know the regular season. You know two weeks of games that are going to pick up here. In Orlando at the end of July, but still I saw quite a bit of buzz. You know people getting excited trying to break down. Who got the toughest slate? Who's got the easiest slate? How does it impact the playoff chase? And and these kinds of questions you know first of all? If anyone hasn't seen it games begin. July thirtieth, which is a Thursday. The NBA wasted no. No Time Milking Zion. He's going to be in the very first game against the Utah Jazz. Just an incredible move by them I love it. They here like two months straight of reports on the as only doing this for money. They just WANNA. Get Zion, and that's the only reason why they're. They're expanding to twenty two teams and they're like Yup here. We go first game. And that same night the clippers will play the Lakers pretty no-brainer matchup the following night Friday You've got a number of good games, but probably highlighted. By the Boston Celtics versus the Milwaukee Bucks. That one's going to get people to tune in. There's no question about it so Michael when you're looking through the schedule. What was your biggest takeaway? And then did you have like one game more than any other over the first week that you're looking forward to an Washer so I mean before we get into this discussion. I think we need to quickly talk about how like the strength of schedule Markers posted across the Internet by some of our very smart colleagues. Are, just like little more than a total guessing game I just think there are way too many variables in play and. A lot of assumptions being made like I. Don't think the players coming to Orlando are going to be exactly who they were for months ago and the teams aren't going to be what they were for months ago. As a result of that, I mean, there could be players who take unexpected leaps forward. There could be players more likely that are God awful because of various reasons, I think it's just an unprecedented situation in terms of time off, it's comparable to one team transitioning through an off season and. Even when there are minimal personnel changes from the end of one season to the beginning of another that team is always different, and chemistry is never just You know static from one year to the next, which is how we should be doing this, so you look at that, which is really difficult to quantify, and then also you kind of factor in you know. Players that are impact players starting starting caliber players on really good teams who are not going to be making the trip down to Florida, you know. The Lakers are going to be down a starter The clippers just signed another big man, and we don't know what Lou Williams is going to do. Necessarily the blazers last Trevor Aretha. The we talk about the heat, and how they were incorporating two players and Jae crowder and Andre with dollar, and we don't really know what they're going to look like. The PELICANS were still figuring out how to incorporate cy on Williamson, so there's just a lot of moving parts here and I think it's really difficult to. To to to guess gauge. which teams are going to lose collective focus in which teams are going to maintain our? Sustain it down there. So I I don't know like I. Do have some takeaways just looking at it under the assumption. That all these teams are going to be performing as they were, but I do not think that's a fair assumption to make. No your points are very well heated. I mean we see teams that we expect to build on you know positive momentum from one year to the next fall in their faces regularly, and we see teams that we expect to slide. After maybe losing a key player. Take off unexpectedly the following season I. Mean you really can't know and when we're looking at the amount of time off here being more than four months. That's longer than typical offseason, so yes, all concerns are validated at the same time Michael I think some people might say okay Bro. Thanks for the the intellectual take, but the stars are still going to be there. Right? Zaylon still going to be there for New Orleans Lebron still going to be there for the Lakers. Still going to be there for the clippers, tatum versus jaanus still that same matchup. Whether, you played it in March or or August and I I hear those voices two, because ultimately like we do have to sort of readjust in reacclimated this notion that we could actually be watching basketball here in roughly one month. And if that happens I, do think party. Your brain is going to click back on. Even if you're just watching to see okay, which team? came out of this thing properly or well, or which team does it have the chemistry I mean you're going to be asking those kinds of questions when we get there in a month, so I guess you know which of these. Which of these matchups have excited or at least intrigued to to do the the nitpicking type analysis that day July thirty first at four PM inside the historic Visa Athletic Center the Phoenix Suns versus the Washington Wizards. How excited are you for that matter oh? Come on Michael. So sarcastic. Yeah, I mean one of those team get eliminated from the entire chase. You pay lose. They both have a lot of room to make of it. SORTA like your whole summer hinges on that very I literally. Goes competition right there but I mean more seriously to answer your question. Yeah, series okay to. Come on bring a good attitude to this to opening I. I gotta I'm a little cynical. When it comes to the first matchup, the Pelicans Jazz I mean. I understand why everyone wants to seize on I understand the drought, the PELICANS and making the push to actually get that eight seed. But like why are they matched up against the Utah Jazz team? The there at one of their better scores is just not gonNA play because he just had surgery and I. Think that's a weird opponent to start things off with, but the game right after that. Clippers like ours. I mean that's before the season was suspended. That was that was everything those two teams. Everyone wants to see them in a seven game series. Some of the most memorable regular season games from this past season. Were between those two in my opinion like I. Can still in my mind's eye see Kawai guarding. Lebron James Down the fourth quarter stretch. Who that Christmas Day game and just like the the the star power. The stakes just the fact that they're both La Teams, and there's just like this whole like inner city rivalry like I love it a lot. I can't wait to see those two matchup. I can't wait to see. Lebron I can't wait to. To See what shape collision so that's going to be a lot of fun and then the Celtics Bucks matchup, which is the next day I think that's like a close second for just the the the top tier matchups on most looking forward to because I think that those are the two I mean no disrespect to the raptors. Who I think are excellent. Are the two best teams. In the Eastern. Conference and I just can't wait to see how jaanus looks i. can't we just see? TATUM looks like Kemba. Walker should be healthy now. there's a lot of lot of intrigue with those four teams because there aren't a lot of teams down there. That can actually win at all. I think like there's there's probably five maybe six teams and to get matchups between four of them right off. The Bat is exciting. So I think you did a nice job. Summarizing those headlining matchups I mean Lebron should be coming out to make a statement in that first game. Right I mean we saw how much are positive, a buzz and juice? They got out of the win over the clippers back in March. You have all this time off. He's been kind of laying low from a basketball perspective. And yet you have all these conversations about social justice and everything else. I can kind of see Lebron bringing basketball back with like a forty and fifteen you know, and everybody's like Oh my God I can see that emerging in my mind's eye Michael I'm GonNa? Give you two sleeper games from the first week that I think really excited. And I'm surprised. You didn't pick either of them because they both involve your Houston. Rockets okay. The first one is on that Friday night. Basically, the NIGHTCAP game is Houston, versus Dallas and I've had all these theories defense gonNA wind up sort of winning out here because it's going to be ugly play and choppy play and everything else, or are we going to be seeing five on five just kind of style basketball? If there's two guys who I want to see like, how do they just operate? Orchestrate in this environment. It's Luca Heart. You know what I mean. The idea that the final score of that game might be one hundred, sixty, five to one hundred and sixty two has me a little bit excited. Now there is backfire potential here To Eighty six, we're going to have to wipe this podcast off the face of the planet. That will save you from everyone knowing that you've got jumped over a block. It would also save me from a bad prediction, but that one I'm surly got circled. The other one I've got circled Sunday Milwaukee versus Houston and that's August. Second One's going to be on ABC. The reason why I've got that one circle Michael is we played that game? Hey, do you remember that transaction where we were going through all the different minor moves that had happened in February and March, and like Oh holy cow, markeith worse on the Lakers. We did that last week. If anybody didn't check that podcast out, please do. Do you remember that trash. Talk Michael you remember at all star weekend when Janas was going at Hardin. Basically we're going to attack him because he doesn't play any defense. And it was going back and forth and hard not about it and you know everyone's saying. WHO's the real MVP and it was going on and on for four rounds. We need to see that. Play out in an empty Jim. ORLANDO! If there's chances for Know rekindling that type of trash. Talk I think Sunday. August second is the fact that that was only four months ago. Makes me. Feel like I'm going to live forever. I that is incredible. I remember a yeah, we were you. Did it remember that? Remember, trash-talk, but I was there I remember now. Recording, an episode in my hotel room where we were recapping right after it happened when we sat in on the press conference. Yeah. It's a lot of happened since then Worrying and thinking and pondering about. NBA trash-talk is something I have not considered doing a very long time, but I'm here for it now. I guess that matchup will be fascinating for a lot of reasons I mean. Like, the bucks before all this happened, they were this like they were expected to waltz to the finals I think it's fair to say. In a Lotta ways, there was not a lot of not a lot of holes in how they played basketball on either end they the MVP. And you're right. This is a statement game for the Houston Rockets on a lot of ways, and there might pick to win the championship until further notice. and. I think to do that. They'll most likely need to jump up a maybe spotter to in the standings to get to the the four five. Seed! And winning games like this will obviously help them do that, so yeah. I mean I'm obviously going to tune into that one. I I'm very excited. There's a slight overlap between that game and Dallas versus Phoenix which is going to just really. It's just gonNA. Get my soul, not being able to sit through that one, but. Well Michael Michael Michael. It's going to be like Summer League. You're going to be able to have multiple screens up simultaneously for anyone who hasn't like really dug into this. They're going to be playing up to seven games per day. In three different gyms with staggered starts, and so on the longest days Michael People are going to be able to watch ten straight hours of basketball. Basically, starting from like one PM Eastern, you know in until the Games. Basically ending around eleven pm. Eastern I don't know about you, but the fact that these are going to be real NBA, players and not summer league players has a little bit excited also worried about how much basketball I might be. I don't know if I to put myself on like a ration. But I'm so stoked for it. They've also got up to four nationally televised games per day so again. If you're someone who doesn't have, your favorite team has been eliminated or You don't have your local cable package or whatever else. You're going to be able to see up to four games on any given day NBA TV, ESPN, tea or ABC one other game to highlight would be Monday August third. The PELICANS versus the Grizzlies and we had all this talk Michael, about. Zion Chase towards the play in round, and can they make the playoffs enforced I on versus Lebron the first round and everything else you know the strength of schedule numbers that came out which you've already dismissed, but still we're going to discuss as if they're a real thing. New Orleans had. Ridiculous by a lot. And they get the heads up game against Memphis. They get to heads up games against Sacramento and Portland has one of the tougher schedules in there. In that mix there as well now in fairness to the Pelicans, they had a very easy remaining strength of schedule before the shutdown, so they were already kind of anticipation to have a little bit of a boost but certainly there in a prime position either force that play or potentially even overtake the Grizzlies now. The Grizzlies don't want to hear anything about that. You know you know those guys like John Moran. He's probably seething right now at the way. This thing has played out so that August. Third Game. Probably like pitched as a rookie of the year tight battle between Zairean and jaw. That's going to be a really fun game. To what did you make of the Pelicans strength of schedule like? Do you think they're going to be able to get in? I think they're going to be able to for sure. I also think that it's I. Mean Yeah to your point like before all this happened. Their strength of schedule, which was easier to gauge was pretty easy. And that's why a lot of the projections had them making the despite being so far down in the standings with some teams to leap over. But like. I don't know this is like they're really playing like. If you just look at the teams that they're going up against, there's really like one team that I would say is good, and that's the clippers they play once like I. I mean no disrespect to the jazz who kinda discounting, but you know not having Bogdonovich is going to hurt them. Like the clippers are really the only team that's tough like they play the grizzlies as you said, who are just a big question mark to me because of their youth. yeah, the king's Wizard Spurs like they played kings twice actually and then there. They close out against the magic so like. That's a joke and. I understand like I. Just don't think it's a coincidence that this team has some things sort of like a cakewalk in front of it, and there's really no excuses for them not to make the playoffs and I do wonder though if they were to slip up in the first three games, let's say they get blown out and they start this whole thing in three. Can you envision a scenario where the Pelicans as an organization are just kind of like all right well, this is our year and we're just GONNA. Sit Zaylon and we're GONNA. Sit Brandon Ingram for the rest of this thing like that would be. That'd be a disaster. If, that happens, I think Adam. Silver will personally go onto the court with Bob Iger and Drag Zion's body. into the starting circle to jump tip. Yeah I don't see that happening unless you're really is an extreme situation where they go and five and it's like all right. The whole thing is done. But it would be something to watch. There's no question about it. All right our final question here and we're going to get through this quickly. Michael I want you to make your dream playoff matchups because one thing to keep in mind with these seething seething games that are going to take place over the first two weeks of the tournament is that none of the ups have been set yet? We don't know for sure any pairing one two eight. Two seven, three, six, four five. HAVE BEEN! Set In either conference, they're all prone to being kind of mixed and matched in different ways so Michael What I want you to do is play matchmaker. Let's start in the eastern conference. If you could have your ideal. Playoff matchups for the first round. Who are they so like? Who To who to the bucks play an and so forth go from there. Yeah, I mean okay so from the top. Bucks I. Guess, it doesn't really matter. But I guess I would like to see personally the wizards I suppose just because I wanNA. See Brad. Beal make it and I like watching him. Play basketball and there's really no. No one is good as Brad. Beal on the Brooklyn Nets or the Orlando, magic which of the two teams more likely to get the eighth seed. But I know that that's not going to happen, but that's what I want so I mean bucks nets is probably what I'm personally projecting there for the one V, eight. It's a possibility that the Celtics get to the two seed. I don't necessarily think that's going to happen. Just because they have such an easy schedule, but the raptors are extremely good and I don't think that they'll falter because of just who they are and what their make up is. Yeah. Let me real quick. The rappers actually have a tougher schedule, so it is possible to have a lot of room to make up in a short time period, but if the raptors. Succumb to top schedule. Boston has a cake schedule. You put those two together at Greyhound it could happen I so I think for the purpose of this I'm just going to say that. The Raptors are probably the two seed and they'll. Probably go up against the Orlando Magic and that's GonNa be that's like the NBA TV like wet dream right there. That's just what we always get on that network. So that's perfect. And then Celtics Pacers, which is just kind of a a rematch of what feels like the last nineteen first round series between or Boston's first round opponent, the last nineteen years has been the Indiana Pacers, so that should be fun, and then where I'm actually intrigued and the. Care about the most, is the projected as of now four or five. As you said could obviously change. But the Miami Heat versus the Philadelphia Seventy sixers is just like it has the makings of a classic and I really hope we see it. The teams both teams are talented enough. I think to appear in a conference finals now. Obviously they they both won't for variety of reasons, but. Like if you just look at the star power, you have embiid. You Have Ben Simmons. You have Jimmy Butler you have a bio. The individual matchups where these guys are actually going to be defending one another and seeing where Eric's supposed to puts ban at a by always GonNa Garden beat as he did during the regular season. Is he going to be kind of the Ben Simmons Stopper? I'm really fascinated. See how that works out the heat like to go small. The sixers like the play big both like to play pretty slow relative to the rest of the League, and then you obviously have the. The Jimmy Butler dynamic where he wants revenge and him going balls to the wall as someone who if you listen to our quarantine draft like Jimmy Butler is going to be in the top one per I guess the ninety nine, th percentile or the one percent I'm screwing that up, but the night he's going to be at the tippity top in terms of players who are in shape and ready to go so I cannot wait to see what he looks like and I want to see him with a little bit of extra motivation against the team that refused to give him a five-year Max. contract. Awesome breakdown I'm GonNa give you mine and I'll be honest. My reasons are. There's no question about it all right. I Want Books Wizards in the first round. As much as I've made fun of the wizards over the years, the team that I wanna see the absolute least in Orlando is the Brooklyn Nets. They're basically bringing no one. They fired their coach. They to me are really deserving of a playoff spot. You know if we had taken the top sixteen teams I just would not have even included them. I would've just like throwing the Pelicans into their spot. So for that reason, get the nets Outta here. Bring the wizards in I like this matchup for Milwaukee, because I would love to see Yanna average fifty five points for playoff series, and really just do something that no one else has done before and I think the wizards team to help him do that. You've got. The second matchup would be Toronto. Orlando honestly not particularly thrilled about that one in any way. I guess it's a good tuneup for Toronto they. It's kind of a rematch from last year. If you WANNA pitch it that way. Past that whatever just get Orlando out of here as quickly as possible. And I mostly I'm concerned about preserving the the best teams for future matchups in so. That sets up a possible Milwaukee Toronto showdown down the road. Now, the middle is where it gets interesting. I definitely was tempted by heat. Sixers like you were in a different way Michael I want the Miami Heat to ruin your life by falling to the sixth seed and knocking out the Boston Celtics just popping this Jason Tatum Balloon I. Want Jimmy Butler locking him down I. Want the completely ready to rock. Miami Heat spoiling every narrative coming out of Boston, it'd be so funny. So I, want Celtics versus heat that would leave Pacer Sixers, and the reason why I like that one. Is that it potentially sets up all sorts of juicy matchups down the road whether it's Milwaukee versus Philly whether it's eventually somehow Philly, versus Boston or Philly versus Miami. Or even a rematch of Toronto Philly, which you know of course ended with that Crazy Cola shot I think no matter what if you can come out of the first round with Milwaukee, Toronto Philly and then one of Boston or Miami. You'RE GONNA have awesome second round matchups. Basically no matter what so, that's how I broke down. Your urine, because this disgraceful, your projections make me sick. I think that you know like. Don't you want to see in the second round? Celtics play the raptors a match up. We have never gotten the the good fortune to witness. I WANNA. See a bunch of people crying. In Boston, that's what I WANNA see. No I mean I think that's where we're headed. Aubrey. oddest okay I'm being pretty tongue in cheek here. I think Boston Miami is really interesting first-round match-up if we get it, you know I realized there's going to be a lot of focus on well. What does Miami Philly look like with the Jimmy Butler returned. Can Simmons step up I mean there's a million storylines that direction, but if you're saying like which two teams are going to be locked in and ready to rock with awesome. Chemistry and culture, and then just lead executives who basically hate each other and Pat. Riley and Danny ainge. That's an awesome series and I know you don't like it because you're afraid you don't WanNa, see Miami, you're you're backing off your terrified? I do love the the bad blood between Danny and Pat Riley. That's always fun going way back to the eighties with the Lakers and the Celtics. That would be cool. I guess I mean I'm not afraid speaking just as my putting the green goggles on for two seconds. no I I'm not afraid of the heat. If I'm the Celtics I think the talent is just overwhelming. But well. Let's show the West Year because we're running out of time. GimMe your matchups in the Western. Okay so I mean Lakers I like. I got the Lakers. Obviously number one overall. I suppose I wanNA see the Pelicans. I WANNA sees ion versus Lebron I wanna see Brandon Ingram also and Lonzo Ball, and those guys that got traded discarded for Anthony Davis, WANNA see them be angry and potentially maybe win a game or two, which just totally possible. Well I. Really respect you for avoiding the you know the overthinking basketball twitter take, which is you know? I'd actually rather see the grizzlies. It'd be more fun. They earned it. You know they. They deserve it what I love the grizzlies as well, but I think that if we're saying, we have the opportunity to see Zion versus Lebron around one. I don't think you can choose anything else I. really just don't. I don't think that's being height beast. I just think that like when we're saying basketball history, you know where design career ago the idea that he could launch his postseason against the Braun in the bubble is pretty ridiculous, I think we all have to kind of root for that all right? Next up we have the clippers. Clippers against. I'm thinking Dallas? Is GonNa be the seven seed. They're just. That's where they're most likely. The land and the clippers are going to destroy them. three I have so. I guess it gets a little more interesting here now. The rockets are. Sitting in fifth right now I believe or Likely to land fifth. And I mean they could get to the third seed, and I feel like I'm pushing it if I go that far I don't WanNa. Be Ridiculous so I'm just going to say the Denver Nuggets will be the third seed, and they're going to go up against the Oklahoma City thunder in my opinion and I I have no idea who's going to win. That series I think you cannot discount. the weird metamorphosis that we've seen with Yokich and how that's going to impact his game. I don't know losing forty pounds helped you in basketball competition, fighting for post position against Stephen Adams. That's going to be very interesting to look at. and. Utah Houston I guess is the four five then in some order, and it just sucks for Utah again to run into this mismatch there I i. they just they can't defend that team that goes five out even more dramatically than they did in the past I don't know who Rudy Gobert guards this nightmare and it's GonNa come true again. So here's how I did it. I want a different route. I I WANNA. See The thunder slip and play the clippers, so we can get the Chris Paul kind of revenge versus his former former team in the first round. Then I want to see. The nuggets match up with the rockets primarily because I don't WanNa see the rockets. Play the jazz again and I. Kind of I. Don't know if I'm skeptical of Denver. But I ultimately think Houston's one of the best four teams and I think they'd be able to take care of Denver so if they knock Denver out in the first round, I would be just fine with that and primarily what I'm trying to set up is Dallas versus Utah because I do think Utah's like a wounded duck here without Bogdanovich, and if we can get Dallas in Luca through to the second round, so that the second round includes the Lakers, clippers, rockets and mavs. Feel like that's kind of ideal from view ability, watch ability, know viewership standpoint, so that's how I wanted to shake out. What do you think I don't think I would have a huge problem with that, but you're just totally discounting the possibility of Zaire on averaging forty and twenty and upsetting the Lakers. Never, discount but yes, I think that even in my wildest pipedreams do not have the Pelicans going on the miracle run to the second round of the playoffs and beyond, but anything is possible at Disneyworld. Michael Alright. We've reached the end of another episode of the open floor. I WANNA. Call out all the people out there. Email us open floor mail, Edgy Dot, com open floor, Male Edgy Jima dot com tell. Tell me the game that you're most excited to watch in the first week of the NBA's return. Tell me which first round matchups you're dying to see. Tell me your favorite one. Break it down for us. If we didn't hit on this episode and let us know what you remember the most about Vince Carter we try to cover every base, but I'm sure we left. A few stones unturned, so let us know. 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"In today's opening Chapter Vail McGee appears to have suffered a new better time to throw down and open tone I mean should he be saving this for the regular season worked at one time I'll draggers for players a player to play in four different decades which is just mind blowing he has also spanned actual multifamily generations you now last night earth has ever done before he is entering his twenty second season more than colby more than Kareem wants the calendar flips to January he will become the first into Madison Square Garden and hit oh I don't know one three or I don't know four South from the warriors last night also we're going to discuss the contract extension Bradley beal just signed with the wizards worth an additional seventy two million dollars squared off against Knicks top draft pick J. Barrett will vince used to play with his dad rolling in Raptors training camp a couple times and start on the Canadian nationals children about watching Vince Carter actually probably just bring them to a game so they can watch him themselves and here's coach David Stays Dale after the game he played seventy six last year so I feel pretty good about his chances as has been well documented at this point Vince is crazy meticulous about all the extra stretching and Rehab let's be honest if you're a world class NBA player. You likely have no shot of doing Vince Carter is doing because literally what he's doing no human being on this half man half amazing has proven himself to actually be houseman all amazing and last night he showed yet again why at eight forty two Carter sure in the moment that it would be one of the most memorable things I would see Vince to of course it turned out to not even be close over the last two decades the player dubbed this Carter was about twenty years ago in chocolate factory in Canada it was a promotional appearance the raptors had trotted him entry McGrady out for they both had to wear these white three pointers in a five minute span the fans in the building loves it. NBA Twitter loved it. Here's Knicks beat writer Chris eisman quote someday I'll tell my grand lab coats and some uncomfortable shower cap type things on their heads stand it into Sibley line and posed for pictures it was so delightfully awkward that I was pretty coach but I'm always amused when I hear anyone say Vince gives old guys hope I promise if you're a fortysomething rec league player you have no shot of doing what Vince Carter is doing league but honestly what he wants is the kind of ceremony he got last night something spontaneous and pure and as all the way amazing as Vince name after the Game Vince told ESPN's Andrew that he knows the hawks might not play him in all eighty two games this year but his goal is to be healthy enough to be available for all of them which I mean in his career which was to regularly still play basketball instead of being a decoration at the end of someone's bench that means instead of making those get me ring championship hopeful pre and formed Vince and the teams he's played for it's been rewarded tenfold now Vincent said this is his last season and even agent choices Vince is favoured young rebuilding teams that have room to give him minutes it's the opposite of the approach save Carmelo Anthony took in his last two stops champion team all back Alley Mr Perkins I've always so thrilled when you're here are warriors insider Nick Fidel is going to be joining US leader he's going to break down the defensive struggles which we aged I'm Rachel Nichols alongside our front office insider Amino Hassen his mangled hand an also are envy awesome well beyond nearly any player we have ever seen this is a man who showed us back then he could actually re fleet fly and the way he's still do this is that a better deal for the wizards feel we'll discuss but anytime at seventy two million dollars that's a lot of money all right so the first time I met V increase sixties and windmill dunks his forties so yeah it makes sense of everyone convinces draft class which by the way included both tie Lou and that's GM Sean hired to play at this age on game days teams early bus is way too late for him he takes his own car to the arena so he can get all his pre-game work in but honest let's contemplate several retire already I'm tired of him still watching works it's Vince that still hooping and then the second reason he's still doing all of this he's made choices over the past five years based on what he actually wanted from this take for nominal I think is also to see he gives us a forty plus a lot of hope obviously I have a ton of respect for event I had a memphis and got to spend a lot of time with him he's he's a perennial professional those guys lucky to have him on that team arrestor that young that many young guys it's just hard to do the things to execute in a consistent manner because what the biggest thing about you in this league is it makes it a reasonable a really but but to me I think we're also sell short a little bit it probably not but but I agree with everything he said right so I think the young exciting team I think the the finding their way I think in this league in the jump for what a few years in a row now this time I actually believe him he knows that means he'll get some rocking chair type farewell tour moments at arenas around the times it takes time to develop that consistency especially across a raw so we're not talking about one or two players it's a lot of different guys and even though Vince is one of the best vets there is Elf so Kendrick we want to see Vince Carter playing in the playoffs this year right that is what we want so how close is this hawks team to getting him there how good can they be Alan you excited but is he going to be able to make the right decisions night in night out because it really is about the marathon right we always eighty two games Adam and Phoenix and he was awesome there Evan Turner a good bit as well but there's only so much those guys can do and it's only two of them versus how many of these other young guys I see the season or whatever or they go together and willpower win you know be able to get through it mentally you know that's my whole concern but I wait for them because they're able to play small ball which complemented trae young and Collins you're looking at Dijon corded they're building along with the veteran guys like details would be time one hundred health summit today about what happened behind the scenes here's what Adam Silver said quote we made clear that we were being asked to fire him daryl by the being an American business you'll taking those American values with them to China I think did something that they got some backlash over their initial initial statement there were two statements a press conference so there was a lot the kid that's been very impressive preseason I think the sky's the limit for the Hawks and I think they make the playoffs this year my thing is is when they hear that virtually a little bit fleet that's just the mechanics the truth is this is able to do what he's doing right now because well number one as we saw during the two thousand ten contests he possesses an athlete awesome breaking news this is his first interview about the League's conflict with China over of course that tweet with rockets gm more agape items still revealing new he's government by the parties we dealt with government and business we said there's no chance that's happening there's no chance we'll even discipline him so I mean he also talked about there they did get some backlash back here at home and this is Adam strongest comments yet of saying hey freedom of speech we defended Daryl and we didn't apologize for him right and stuff like that more reddish had a real up and down year Radu Hunter maybe so maybe he's already but reddish to me he's exactly what I'm talking about a lot of time playing in the east and I don't know if Landau is ahead of Atlanta I learned last night is if I needed any reinforcement New York is not have Atlanta so we have that all right apologized for the Chinese fans being insulted and Adam I thought made a good point of saying Kay both things can be true we're not apologizing barrels right to say what he said but we can also say that we have Chinese spirit I mean he said legitimately they wanted him fired and we said no he could have just said they weren't happy or kind of danced around the but he made it very clear I thought that was very daryl Morey can never get fired now because he gets five well I'm just seeing if he gets fired for his the job the rockets done people automatically going to fall back on it's called her and Evan Turner this able to control the locker room and when they go small with with the new guys that guy with Cam Reddish and oh and could be good look the future is bright for this Atlanta Hawks team you you looking at the eighteen they're stacked up at the wing and guard position which which I think is I love him the the coaches love him GM love them. I Love My love the way Adam silver handle situations he always have he always have our back looking like Denver the last year's like Sacramento New Orleans right now you're on the cost side here's the difference the too much but it also tests what your concentration levels at your focus because it's easier to kind of Bedwar just kinda start thinking the game to throw away games applaud Adam silver for what he said I mean I think you're right this is an issue that is going to be following the league round and it should because it is complicated and that's okay so I think this is a league important at the same time it's still complicated because we operate in the League guys get fired all the time especially if the team can't get over the Hump so does this mean a kid coming from Virginia men will coach for us we can read this come from coast k do you think that helps them more so coming into the league force would they maturity aw come to make this is a maker Miss League baby quite sure that Atlanta's like the core of that young core of those guys on the list trae young son Collins I you know I I do I do like them and again they are undefeated make mismatches Stephen Adams Grayson Allen down in the Post Johnson but the moment we're talking about our business and how it's run that makes everything in this situation very complicated that he came out and said hey they want him fired we said no that he it's Vince Carter seriously easy look at that the new or is it a winner we'll discuss that in a moment first though time for our distant replay it's this date in two thousand mean guessing this corner whereas transparent listen I look at himself I think we have the best commissioning boys You know you look at his background when he first took the job you know the players hands that we know didn't like it and he's pointing out like hey as I said we took those American business values over with us to China is that enough what do you think of this comedy I thought it was remarkably the east teams that are ahead of the Miami Orlando you think I don't think Orlando is just ahead of the hawks later kind of talent wise I don't think I was but that is shown it can grapple with complicated issues and we will watch them continue to do that but I also I I liked he said today because he's transparent be over with that's the that's happening up next we got all the details breath feels new deal with the wizards I'm GonNa give you a hint it's worth a lot of money which side no and obviously there will coast by law so I love the reaction that they're going in and I do think that the house might play all right so he says yes behind so there you go that's all good I still think sales center maybe done this account the deal Smith play where he was deputy there there as far as their maturity listen name and you and Rachel could answer this for me does you know four is like with the Hunter uh-huh I still attacking right Yup this past very similar to the Isaiah Thomas Steve Nash by the way this quarter one of these two when I was going through this morning he had won the first one I thought about what the you know why really got fired and so it just makes it a really uncomfortable situation I guess what I'm trying to say is it's complicated man I I know everyone wants to be not complicated ooh one of my favorites shades diesel right there can you even overstate how precise he is and just how much it always comes exactly where you want I mean look look Danny Green had to make this way and we love Stephen Adams hold the miss logic saying okay ooh check out the finish Utah Johnny Utah is I it's up and down there nights where you'll say oh they get it they finally know how we WanNa do things and then the next minute guys now you just talked about it and so that's not a knock on the town this is the beginning and I love that one that's my favorite I think is doing and then just you know he's long gone easy layup US y'all watch this sequence rockets last night so I he's locking does not work it's a lot different from what David Stern was offers you know he's alive she moved when when Adam silver took over just looking at different things that changed the dress code he lead players themselves that's my day right there you go oh what's going on healthy is going to change this I think that's one of the reasons they did a playoff team they will team without him a year ago and you add them visit last night I know you were in the building brought out there and running he gets caught up behind his head when open Danny Green right the man came up with the Times bar down there come on right seasons this is also key the oh cannot now be traded until the end of this upcoming season so there's a lot of teams around the League are pretty sure Andrew likes to call could you pull this off absolute Rachel L. to Louis not out the man that was impressive right probably in my high school days but he's no he knows he's there is one thing but also got to live where you needed it two thousand eleven eric damp here now that can't be won when no more and the bassoon tie he he take action and he always take up a and to me he always take the high road and choose the right path so this did not just affect the wizards today I can think of six teams that wanted him that this will affect now assuming bill defines player option which the reason that's built in for him to three five years for a projected two hundred sixty six million so would you say this was a better deal for Bradley beal or for the wizards the help what's that attracted me I was gonna say the fact that he is healthy this year you can stay home do is that he would have reached ten years of service right so he then resign with Washington and wouldn't be eligible at that time to sign the largest contract in NBA history player that so he is straight is immoral make Tedeschi Dante Murray is back morning he has agreed to a two year seventy one point eight million dollar extension the second year is a player option but it will keep him out of free agency for three more see it affects I think a lot of teams around the league and the trade market but he does want to be there I talked to him several times in the last couple of months about this and I look there are a lot of ood best ever know look dime here we go this is just last year Bradley beal's like look this isn't going the way I thought it would Ted Leonsis the managing partner is toby things are going to happen they didn't happen I WANNA get traded they've got costs he has decided I'd like to be the guy on a team that wants me and then I feel comfortable with and so he went and did that as opposed to did what everyone else told him to the books and now the other teams are interested in or not say well I'm not going to give up all that stuff for a guy who could lead the year they've got some concern there and then from the Bradley Beal Perspective I'm Elise for both with the number of years because if things are not going well then hey Bradley say hey I don't Wanna be a part of this rebuilding of situation to enforce the team side is for them in this rebuild process that they know that their star players and saying hey I need to get out of here I wanna be somewhere else but we also know people's minds contain so what this does is in a year off I think if you're the wizards first of all you got them locked in he wants to be here that's the biggest thing is they hey we offered him his contract he said I'll take it and that's a huge kind of boil Pay Him what he wants another team will is that the surreal talk is that as the Kings turn now I always I I do what he says that's like the main anyway let's talk about Bradley because he is a rich man was this pass it better than I expected I may have to get Lebron James Pass you've been on the other end of it who've been like dude you're not gonNA reach the playoffs anytime soon it's rebuilding John Wall's hurt all of this and what I like is what I talked about at the top of the show we've been further as you know this is the annual number for all star shooting guard as well deserved by Bradley Beal Your shows commitment both ways and Washington and one thing about their organs him as a infomercial for the rest of the League there's another team we're gonNA talk about feeling the next block that's going through its own ascension dealing with the opposite seat WANNA team takes care of its Free Wall Otto Porter before that so Washington even though you say oh well you're not going anywhere this is a big moment for that the seasons ago Oh no I'm sorry I'm not looking I'm not seeing anything also two thousand eighteen and you could tell it the ball deserves crowd after boot move like that I think it's it's not one size fits all for NBA players right so it's not like oh they only go chase Rangel Anthony Davis did who felt like hey I really want to be somewhere else I'd given this trial in one way or the weighed one was my favorite one but you and I are not the authors of this this decision but but most credits are Bradley Bill family man because they raised a great kid he's been so good in the community the how old this is Lewis is on the table you've been on this preseason what would you say Rachel only the fans we're gonNA come out here and compete every night big theme would be to grant hill in the corner right there going crazy thing is is that all those passengers was on point to move that's incredible station ownership they never hesitate they'd never hesitated to pay players when they deserve to get paid and I think it works like like a main say it works in favor you were what might be right for someone else I think that's what we want to see if more people will lead to more happiness so we do some quick foreshadowed because I wanna point out Kennedy great point players notice thank and is he is fun to play with I just feel like the buses team meals and everything I don't work well then it is not a contract to try and like he can be traded this summer he just can't be traded in February right so it just changes the gallagher on that and as I said turn to offense healthy we'd say I liked it he had to try out preseason Wpro Kaz broke senators yes it would you grandpa always take the for Solo instead it's a moment I think listen I think I'm with you both sides went on the green for all of Washington which by the way Washington's four having a very good week coming up a meeting or something is not happy with the extension offer the kings presented instead if talk here on the jump and look nick for Dell us you're going to break any and all ties so you got to sign here we're already With the season five premiere of our favorite I just thought it was a language language it's time for me I don't I don't want to hear about it don't get to see starting next season seasons finally started dating thanks you guys jump is back tomorrow same time thanks for what tation for over unnecessarily being hardball on these sorts of things I'm not saying they need to pay a guy just to make everybody feel like talking about this and how the last time they went to a contract negotiation for an extension was demarcus cousins we know how that ended up and does Sacramento what the good they're gonNa try and do that doesn't necessarily reflect on who you are how they feel about you but at the same time I think about because reading Jason Jones right up really I'll have a great reputation in that regard Sacramento stuck because if buddy he'll get the money right now that he wants he's going to get it somewhere else the market is weak as per pointed out moving forward good but it is an interesting contrast between the team we talked about in the last segment Washington where the players know hey if you do right they'll take care of you where Sacramento right now on a new deal to stay in Sacramento who sports the Kings offered healed a four year ninety million dollar extension but his agent in this plot twist career highs in points assists rebounds last year he's going to be twenty seven to December how high is a ceiling we'll see but the thing that scares me more here guys is that if the uh-huh in today's episode one of our young heroes has become the leading man of the NBA spicy a soap opera he's banking is he worth as much as he not that's remains to be seen obviously going to have a whole year to play out to show that he was worth what he's looking for right to me you can't get who are actually in the locker room with him describe him getting a little bit emotional so this is probably one of those issues of hey do they want me kind of thing he saying position is one of the weakest mark and so you know if he played away he did last year he obviously could reach one hundred plus market right so I take I take kings do ramp up all that money and give it to them this is their core they better win right now because you've got to figure out Bogdonovich what do you do with Bagley deer and foxes but I do know next summer is not going to be like last summer there will not be a free agent bonanza so if someone is on the market even restricted they're gonNA draw a lot of interest because they're not going to be caught up in the emotion of they didn't offer me what I wanted didn't he doesn't want that part of the business world everyone's trying to cause down one way or another if they can get you for cheaper than coming up and just locked in Harrison Barnes this is it for the they better do it now I like buddy healed a lot I just don't know if that core is going to get them where they want absolutely the warriors and that might surprise some fans but not draymond green who spoke out about it after the game yesterday I think he's been some pretty tough situations there's not insulting young fellow I think I would have chose chose a different choice of words but you know in that situation I don't think the would buddies saying the BS part about it is that this is a ninety million Alpha to start off is not insulting that's not that's showing that they won't you your sign marquees Chris this off season after he was treated three times in three years after being selected eighth overall by the sons in two thousand sixteen Chris looks like he's wellness way to me Ah I'm in-between though oh I got two sides so complex man the reason I'm in between because listen I mean obviously his I just a goal to be held up Sacramento but if they don't want me here I don't feel that on the part of the tour you know I like respect and loyalty and I feel like I'm don't pay him more another team will that part bs a real gentleman you got okay live Suspi just not speak on when they're going through contracts to reporters that look it was all saying Bradley beal just came up all it takes is one version speaking of just one team to make it right it's not like buddy made the all star game anything to that nature leads you and we're we're guys have to realize we talking about when negotiating the deal obviously s something closer to one hundred ten million but he explained his reasoning last night take a listen only John Get on and after that Martina look somewhere else in fun probably not a home and tell them we see if they really see here organization go start off a then novel and your agent in your representation go start off yeah now being this to meet in the middle for them to start off in ninety million dollars not always the kid for also is not a kid anymore but he came into this league as an organization ever blasted situation does always the kid no one ever VACC- franchises sours WANNA behind the ten aw so he's that guy so I'm happy to show you know what he committee Draymond says in the group that's getting too keen back where it needs to be so and I like I said I wanted the air and they don't want to be at least two reporters early there is not a good solid structure and a lot of these organizations to build them back up because once they're lost for a lot of these top tier picks they're gone and Camila warriors perspective here I think he's absolutely right the only thing I would say that I think miss a little bit on his people destroy the sons they destroy the southern so I think there is a lot of truth to what he was saying I think yes why are you rotating because it gets at all no no I'm not because it can be both right it can be teams deserve more blame when high draft picks don't quite pan out as that'd be real talk among the Kendrick in the last segment will you nations trash some of them are are not run well some of them are not places where players are growing but then when you go somewhere else he named he was plagued with the Sunday paper Cleveland about he went to Houston which is good organization what would good coaching and good vets and he didn't do the things that we're asking that were required them maybe he wasn't matured at the having done it the right way the other part absolutely and I think the point there are a lot of young kids who come in the league and they get their confidence crushed on but at some point the player has a role in this as well but he's right the hundred is for yes trashy organizations usually do a tragic job with developing people Cleveland is pretty bad too but in between he went to Houston and we always talk about the sinkhole basketball mortality for players that don't get it in the first one dry whatever it is for a lot of guys when they get traded and I didn't want me anymore and that becomes a kind of wake-up call like this isn't I'm not going to pay my whole career one place whatever I've got to make it happen L. criticized their body of people out there were Robert Server running the show for all those years ooh best to talk about this situation then drain more so you know you you're talking about a guy who went second round to organization in look what he's at today so who Kudos to Golden State in Organization for developing more obviously he had to put the work in would mean on it's to me it's fifty fifty uh you know

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Was That Vince Carter's Last Hurrah?

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Was That Vince Carter's Last Hurrah?

"With Sports Leagues around the World Shutting Down Because of the Corona virus a number of aging pro athletes might have played their last game much earlier than expected. One of them is forty three year. Old Vince Carter only NBA player to play in four different decades. This is getting ready to check back in to the band. Get their wish. Hey knows what's going to happen but no more basketball for a while after tonight. This is GonNa go out on the floor today. The Athletics Chris Kirschner joins us to look back at Carter's incredible career from his explosion onto the scene in the late. Nineteen nineties fans base going. That's one of the best to you ever to his complicated relationship with the city of Toronto where he started his career from North Carolina. Six six fifty to his decision to play for the lowly Atlanta Hawks at the end of his career he never wanted to be that fifteenth. Man on the bench shoe would never play in a game if he was going to win a ring he wanted to win it being a contributor and though he likely won't be getting the send-off he deserves will relive what might have been his final moments in the NBA. Carter leaves the Laura Hero from wonder on the athletic. I'm could even Davidson and I'm under SCELZO. It's Friday March twentieth. And this is the lead. It felt like something great was. There is a thing of the because this isn't a story here. The IT stays with the latest supported by light box ever heard of lab grown diamonds lab. Grown diamonds are essentially chemically identical to natural ones just made in a lab at light box. They've hacked the process to grow gorgeous stones every time it starts with a tiny piece of lab grown diamond heated up in a plasma reactor temperatures nearly as hot as the Sun after about two weeks. Those little seeds grown full stones. Now here's where it gets really interesting. Light Boggs lab. 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In fact at sixty eight points and a thirty point nine shooting percentage this mark the worst offensive output in team history. And when Vince really got there that's when basketball took off he. Was you know the High Flyer Half Man? Half AMAZING STACKHOUSE. Tomac rain his nickname. I was Air Canada. Vince was the guy in Toronto. Put up on the Mark King Next door the NBA bids charter school. You really put the rafters on the map and he helped the raptors gets to the playoffs for the first time. What we've seen over the past several years in in the NBA is. We've seen Canadian players. Come into the League in a lot of those guys. Credit Vince for really starting their love of basketball so he was an incredibly important one of the most influential Canadian. Not Canadian born but Canadian players to ever play in not only basketball but sports in general in those early years Vince. Carter had just legendary highlights. Right he won the dunk contest in two thousand. And frankly like if you're a basketball fan in two thousand you could have said we can just cancel all subsequent dunk contest after. Yeah I mean I was eight years old at the time so just watching it. I mean you're you're just inau but even going back now and re watching that performance. It's incredible it's it's arguably the best dunk contests performance that we've ever seen with his. That is a reverse three sixty gets the grade. That is unbelievable. List building just exploded. How fluid he was our mazing. It was to watch fly through the air. It was one of the best moments in all star game history. And and it's something that will live well beyond Vincent career and something that will be talking about for years to come later that year at the Sydney Olympics in a game between the. Us and France. Vince gave us yet. Another highlight reel. He jumped over Frederick Vice and the crash response to a spectacular. Don Trump pitch clock. Just look at this spectacular take-up he jumped over his head. I mean Frederick Vice you gotTa know guys coming it's arguably the best in game dunk ever and I feel like it's it's hard to argue. Otherwise Vince is not a seven footer. He's six six and he jumped literally over the man's head in the Olympics. And it's funny. Because I remember Vince himself was saying that in the moment he had no idea that he actually had jumped over him. I get the ball and I just try to one dribble attack and I'm just trying to be an athlete. This jump up there and in figured out from there so I never actually knew I jumped over him too later on as that's all instinct. Yes land that's nothing that you'd think about. I don't even think I could do something to think about jumping over someone who is as tall as seven feet. It just doesn't seem comprehensible and convince made it look so effortless. And that's exactly what Vince is. Career was when it came to dunks. It was just effortless. Servants was very much on the rise as this explosive and unbelievably entertaining star. But in the two thousand one playoffs his career hit a pivotal moment. Two thousand one. It was their best season with mints. And there is definitely some controversy with that with Vince. Because in those playoffs against Alan Iverson in the Philadelphia. Seventy sixers is seven games. Vince actually on the day of game. Seven went back to North Carolina and walked across the stage. I graduation because it was a promise. He made his mother. There are some people who questioned including some of your teammates. Who questioned your decision to go to North Carolina considering the magnitude of this game. What's your response to that? Criticism of no reports have no common fourth known. Defect matters here. I'm ready to put a lot of people are calling this. The biggest game in Toronto Raptors Franchise History. If you take a step back though and look at it that way. Can You understand that there would be concerned? I don't care. I don't care accomplished Unaccomplished into things in the big the biggest game in commerce the biggest thing in my life and nasty graduate so fast forward a few hours. Vince takes the final shot in game. Seven score and that's really weird. Things started turning for Vincent fans of Toronto because they felt like he probably shouldn't have done that in you know if he didn't go who knows if he makes the shot. I don't know I think it's just a weird situation and I was probably where things started to get a little weird for Vince in Toronto. So the next year. Vince missed the playoffs. Because of knee surgery and the team started to lose a lot of games over the next few years and Vince was reportedly not happy. I asked about this last season and he was kind of kind of brushed it off a little bit but what reportedly happened was he wanted a new start. You know he felt like the rafters were not going on a trajectory. Where they were going to be in playoff contention and he felt like he just didn't fit in the team's plans anymore. So what happened was he just wants a management and you know his agent and an requests it out of Toronto and they decided to trade him to New Jersey for a package that included Alonzo mourning and then things got even dice here with his fans back in Toronto because after he arrived in New Jersey. He did this interview where it almost sounded like he was saying he didn't really go all out for the raptors. Using Vince. Carter has pushed himself as hard as he should have pushed him so in years past. No I was fortunate to have the Taliban be able to. You know you get spoiled when you're able to do a lot of things and you see that and you really don't have to work at it but now I think with so much we all the injuries and the things. I've gone on half the work a little harder and I'm hungry. He was kind of upset that people would actually think that he wasn't trying but his numbers did increase pretty dramatically. You know he was averaging sixteen points per game in Toronto final season and then he goes to New Jersey is averaging over twenty seven but he felt like the nets were using him in ways. That Toronto wasn't that was used in in in Toronto on how used in in in Jersey is totally different. And also I I think people just want to feel that way. Just because yeah. They're they're mad that I left and I understand and I don't have a problem with that well and it's weird to think about this now. But at the time he was a villain in Toronto it was really bad. You know that first game back in in Toronto when he was in New Jersey he was viciously booed for North Carolina. Six Carbon people were wearing baby. Bibs that had number fifteen wheels a wide assortment of signs paraphernalia Vince. Carter Uber's injuries while a raptor the exclude people wearing shirts. That said F you vicious. It definitely got to him because he felt like he grew up there that was his first NBA team and and SOC- that Fan Reaction. It really got some. And those first few seasons when he was with New Jersey the fanciest Vir- fairy very relentless with home security. There are basically two ways you can go about protecting your home. There's the traditional way where you wait weeks for technician to do a messy installation that costs a small fortune. Yikes or. There's the other way our sponsor simply safe for me. The choice was simple because simplisafe is everything you need a home security system outdoor cameras and doorbells alert you to anyone approaching your Entry motion and glass break sensors guard inside. But what's truly remarkable? Is You can set up this system all by yourself. It takes thirty minutes to an hour tops. And you'll have an army of highly trained security experts ready to dispatch police to your home at a moment's notice. 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He goes from the nets to the Magic to the sons to the mavs to the grizzlies. He's booed relentlessly every time he goes back to Toronto with any of these teams and in two thousand fourteen when he's back in Toronto. There's just this amazing moment. When the team honors him with a video tribute harder as received a standing ovation that has brought tears to his eyes they just showed a video tribute of parter on the big screen at first a lot of fans started booing and then they started rising and Chris. Endo the guy that used to call air. Canada has been cheered loudly. And maybe there is some closure awesome. Ac- that reaction because that's when it really started turning into you know him being celebrated once again and just from talking with them for these past two seasons you could sell. How much Toronto means to him. He just loves that city. He's invested in that city. He's done a ton of Kamson Toronto He's tried his best to give back to the Canadian born players who grew up watching him and now to finally see that back in twenty fourteen firms solve. It really meant everything to him because he had finally felt that he was forgiven. And it's hard to pinpoint exactly why Toronto fans forgave him. But do you think this is just a matter of time passing in this case a lot of time passing. Yeah I think so and Toronto. They were starting a new chapter with Kyle lowry and Marta rose. In you know those were Toronto's new guys you know. They became the face of the franchise so I think it was a matter of just them becoming a relevant once again in the NBA. Do you think that Canadian basketball fans just once they were able to kind of. Turn the page with this new guard and with a new look for their team that they were able to really just kind of sit back and evaluate. What Vince Carter meant to basketball in their country? Absolutely because when he got serano there. Were no kids playing in the streets and dribbling basketballs. You didn't see basketball. Hoops on every block or you know people wearing raptors jerseys that really change when you know that team and himself in particular really put basketball on the forefront of people's minds so. I think that was probably a big reason why Canadian fans overtime said you know what? Vince did a lot for Toronto. And this country and it's probably time to turn that page there now. Vince is forty three. He's the only player who has played in four different decades. You've covered him with the hawks where he's been the last couple of years. How is his role different? Now in the League then it was back in his superstar days. Both on and off the court. Yeah I mean on the Court. Obviously due to his age and physical limitations. He's not dunking the ball anymore. It's a rare treat to see Vince. Dunk is he doesn't in warm ups like he still has it but in Game Situation. It's just rare so on on the court you know he's more so just become a three point specialist off the court. He's the father figure in the locker room. He's the guy that the rookies wants to turn to and yet as much advice and as much wisdom as they possibly can. That's what it's all about just sharpening the minds and opening new ideas and opportunities for them and be tough on them and just get them ready. Do Best I can. He loves when the rookies and second year third year players asking questions because he wants to impart what he learned throughout his entire journey into the new age like he wants his experiences to live through them. And especially with this hawks team. It's really really young roster and he's pretty much an extension of the coaching staff for the Hawks. He's the one showing is how to properly position their feet when they're shooting threes. He's the one telling. Trae young how to navigate the media and how to navigate becoming a superstar in the league like he loves that and. I think it's rare to have someone Vince who's obviously going to be a future hall of. Famer. WanNa take time out of his day to to make the next generation as good as he possibly can in perhaps one of the more poetic moments that we've seen in a in a superstars late career. Vince did throw down a dunk To pass the twenty five thousand point threshold last year Bitch. Fires back to at best. Buy Welcome to the Pantheon. The greatest stores there was awesome and it happened against the raptors to you know just being at that game you could sell that. He really really wanted to get the twenty five thousand points against the raptors. I'm happy I'm thankful for this opportunity to a very elite group. I mean I don't care if famer not I'm in a group where when you talk about storing it's not many can say they have this many points so man I'm thankful the raptors were. They understood what was going on. So they kind of you know docked off a little bit on defense specially when he drove down the lane and then got that dunk and got his twenty-five thousand point a understood the moment so that was really cool to see because again like this is a guy who's an icon and in raptors history and so watch the current iteration of the raptors. Do that for advance. It was really special to be there because you could tell how much respect Vince has. And that's probably the coolest part of these past two seasons you go to any arena. Detroit the guys in the Pistons Locker Room. Just have an immense amount of respect for Vince. He was one of the guys. They looked up to when they were younger. And so just watch the smile on their face and see dairy action to getting to play him. It's awesome and that's something again. That's that's part of Vincent's legacy just how beloved he became especially in this latter half of his career. So there are a couple of unique aspects to the final years of Vincent Career and one is that he never chased the ring right like he never demanded to go to a contender to get a championship. You know he agreed to sign and resign with Atlanta which. Let's be honest as a lottery bounty him. Why do you think Vince? Carter was not obsessed with getting a championship. That was one of the first questions I asked Vince. When he first signed with Atlanta you know I asked him like. You're bound for the hall of fame. You don't have a championship. You haven't really come close to winning a championship. He's never played an NBA finals game. Why go this Y sign with a team like Atlanta. And he said that's just not part of his DNA. I Ki- never wanted to be that fifteenth. Man on the bench shoe would never play in a game if he was going to win a ring he wanted to win it. Being a contributor won't so Vince Carter might not have gotten the send off that he expected or deserved but it certainly was beautiful. Can you walk us through? What might have been his final and be game last Wednesday so the NBA announced the suspension of the season. It was in the fourth order. Is the tonight that it is respected. It's not that detail. It took me like fifteen ish minutes after that to realize that this is probably Vince. Carter's final game so the fans. I think when the fans saw that the NBA announced that the season was going to be suspended. A lot of them were chanting. We want Vince Vince. Vince because they figure that you know this was probably going to be the final time that they saw him on an MBA floor. I ran down to the hawks bench because I figured that something was GonNa Happen within my saw. His teammates trying to push toward the scores table. And and Vince is not one of those guys who really likes all the attention so he was trying to avoid it but you know it got overwhelming at some points and after a while. He just gave in to his teammates and void pierced. The hawks head coach Chuck Vinson with a one thousand nine seconds left on the clock. They gotta give it. He's got to take a three. Picks are applauded. York triples out the final seconds. Vince Carter leaves the Laura Heroes and he got pretty emotional. After the game he talked for about twenty ish minutes in a post game press conference and if this was the end of it he was going to be fine with it he. He said himself that he was at peace on one. One a appreciative do my time and just walk out the doors. Okay with me. You know believing but He's cool believe Nice. I just when I asked him about you know if he had any family in attendance because this was likely the final game. That's when he actually started getting emotional because he only had one of his friends there now on board who I made his children were there so that part was really difficult. Because you know they're probably not going to have another opportunity to see him you know playing an NBA game. So I think that part was the part that really got some. It didn't matter that you know. His final fifteen games weren't going to be played. It was just the fact that he didn't really have any family there and I think that's what he wanted the most. How do you think Vince? Carter will be remembered by basketball fans. What's his legacy? I think he is probably best in game dunker. We have seen and it's unfortunate though that that's his legacy because those first few seasons and Serano you could see him becoming one of the game's greatest players. There was a time where it was looking like. Vince was going to be one of those next all time. Just legends and those knee injuries really set him back and he never really reached his full potential. You know he pete's very very early and and for over a decade now like he's been a six man and journeyman like we spoke of and it's unfortunate because it's also career where you look back on and say you know what could have been if he if he didn't have these injuries. The players talk about looking up to Michael Jordan and looking up to Kobe Bryant. Lebron James Vince Carter. At one point he was the guy you wanted to emulate in your yard or he was the guy who wanted to emulate on the streets. I grew up in the Bronx and not a lot of greenspace in the Bronx. But whenever there was a hoop you wanted to try and throw down a dunk between your legs. Because Vince Carter was doing that he was the guy you wanted to to be like when you were older in for my age. I'm twenty seven and a lot of these kids in the NBA. My Age and even younger like he was the guy who was the definition of cool. 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In The Clutch w/ Vince Carter

expediTIously with Tip "T.I." Harris

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In The Clutch w/ Vince Carter

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Lead a march own is all real real. This expeditiously I am to home now. The following experience not chest conversations stores expressed on his podcast meant to be an expression of purpose and truth. This show properly entitled. Expeditiously is a free exchange of ideas and opinions no judgment no previously beliefs. No fear you're encouraged to share your thoughts and ask any question as long as it's done speed. Nasr through true love and respect for others that we would change the world and speak truth to power wants short a time now without further ado. This is expeditiously and tip. Ti Hairs yes indeed. Welcome to expeditiously. I'm your host tipsy. I Harris now my next guest is the last NBA player. That's have been born in the nineteen seventies as impressive is that may be. He's also the old is at the plan. Lee Unless you are absolutely zero inside on sports you should know who are speaking of Jeff for my own amusement. Continue as I was saying. He's a professional basketball player presently for the Atlanta Hawks of former North Carolina Tar heel a high school. Mcdonald's all American drafted ninety eight by the Golden State Warriors who traded him to the Toronto Raptors. He's the only player in NBA history to play twenty two seasons and the only player to play in four different decades Dow. That's an accolade case. Forget man he's widely regarded as one of the greatest dunkers of all time again for anyone who'd been in a cave. You know what I'm saying for the last I guess twenty two years plea welcome and salute degrade Vince Carter. What had only crease excellent man. Welcome to traditionally man. No it goes without saying I'm. I'm a huge fan man. Okay look so first of all. Congratulations on twenty. Two me. Say I'm a fan as well as I go on told command later man. I highly appreciate it Bro. So tell me how how how is he. You know this as a career back man. You've had an illustrious career bre. You really really set the Bar High Hale high standard on off the court but it right now in this moment right now. He's let me say that first of all I'm at peace because artillery right. No it is what it is happens. I'm a realist than in in with that being said what was Played that last game when I checked into game for the last time to shot and saw go in 'cause right before I didn't WanNa go black and I was like game almost over. Don't worry but unlike you'll be on Season resulted in a couple of weeks. If it doesn't for the not this three diamond. It was the best decision I made in law umbrella because Dan was Locker Room start hear more about the pandemic in in in the facts of what it possibly could do it now. We're seeing what is done to our families in it was just like. Yeah this this Esteban this year and if we do is like it'll be a pleasant surprise. Let me say that not man I went out with a making. You know life is good man. I appreciate this. I appreciate on people that hit. Yes based on twitter light man you gotta go out the right way you deserve game and do all the I appreciate it but like I'm at peace fair to say it is what it is is how it is. I think our safety you know is more important than what we all believe our low to have final game and all that would man whenever we whenever they get back whenever they get back at it. I'm sure you will receive because just as far as as far legends go in basketball you know saying I must tip my hat to you bro. You know what I'm saying. You are the only player to play. I mean the play four different decades that Shit. They're crazy bro. Going through like the last couple years. I never even thought about that. I never thought about like I'm I'm blessed because I played against Jordan. You know in say. Join that that you know Jordan. Kippen Barclay Dim configure called John. Stockton loan so caught detonator. Obviously Kobe we all. That's my Air Indian. Obviously Lebron in this that a chance to play against some of the best that we consider to ever play the game so I. I'm I'm definitely thankful for the play for different decades to see a change to younger athletes. Don't do when they think it makes it a lot of things in life change registers like before you know what I got in a game. You Win the game you still doing. You know there's a lot of really are the stars. Jay Z. All these people like I was in the game when you guys started in the younger generation considered. Og is now an outright this Meyer. He's not people like we still doing it and I appreciate that. This is spraying son. Is that temperature is perfect. The breezes blowing flowers are blooming. The grass is growing. And it's time to mow your lawn. Thanks our sponsor manscaping. You can trim the hedges below the belt safely and efficiently now Those of you. Who did not know? I'm talking about your balls. 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I don't forget to you to Kober t APP. I is clean mask dot com man. You know what I mean. If you look into Trim Your Ball Hell Umass. Well do it in staff who was the hardest to defend who was the hardest to score against the New York Knicks as a team was the hardest scored where year in ninety nine ninety nine. We played them in the playoffs. Lose they we played them they swept does that was one of the hardest. I can remember it was tough. It was one of the hardest time to score against a total defense with that. We will I gotta add debt because he dies that I was like man because he ain't never get tired so you can. You can dog them all you won't you come back. Go back in. I gotta ask Daddy pipping into that. Because he was still lock people up he on the last day of Theme Still. So yes. Move to the toughest to defend. I mean we got a two man. Okay so what I was. GonNa say I can't name more. I'll say NJ CO area and and so you just mentioned the Land Dad's man I have been watching and captivated with you know just the the interior came from from them deciding to add a camera crew for some reason for this. That's just his last year. But mostly I mean you seeing some stuff from back but like this is so crazy. Just say we. We really live that. That's right watching this stuff. I can remember where I was at each game. They say even back to the Bulls and in the Pistons. I remember where I will each game that they suggestion or each game. They play back. That's what I'm saying and I'm a fan you know I was. I was adopted at first but i was a jordan fan as well and you know just when you thought you knew everything about the the bulls run winning six championships the bulls like you say when you see that i see a whole different light is i think is great for the younger generation to see how the game was back then by is a totally different game now just like ours compared it by foot for you your business if you see how we had to come home back like how you had to get in the game back in the day like it's a totally different using them saying we have social media like you also you had to put real working to to get on and it's the same thing like you had to put real work in to be a star it wouldn't let me go get touched by naba it ain't gonna it wouldn't even though that's great for the young generation see because they already know in jail they know of him but ain't they know tennis issue you know know he was a doll for real you know saying right now who watching net put yourself on that quote with guys right now could you handle man she a testament to his work ethic he said when he decided to wedding more and i thank for her leg game he said he will bleed feet will bleeding issue with him wanna change you know what i'm saying like who i don't you can count on one hand how many people go you know bloody feet in the same shoe but now straight yeah i mean that kind of dedication i think that you know has has has represented hill for so long and you mentioned now all of the details that go into the last dance you see what what's the genomes name jerry jerry krause krause. How often how much does? Kinda like ministration executive staff you know impede on a team's ability to stay together it depends nowadays is totally different back in the day. That's what it was gay management. Say this now. It was only a few people you know. The Legend legend the elite legends of the game. Right at that really can say whatever lie in J this about now you play with Nj and he say bill just no comeback. Didn't come back right. That's crazy as kind of like a no brainer okay. We'll feels back yet. Allow a lot of players. Couldn't say is not like that now this some organizations who with the younger coach. Who have that were in their first and second year? Don't have the power to run the team like they want to. But the the executive in the higher higher ups can say Nah Man. We gotTA play these guys. We spent all this money. We drafted on display. We got a player so they have more power than they have more power than than back in the day like I mean. They stayed out of it but at the same time when they wanted to saw they they say some listen but now management kind of controls had up now with young couples. I ain't nobody telling Popovich how to run his squad. You bet around. He's he's established how they run the risk of their other teams. When you have a new coach there could be like you bula eight nine Brad. Thank you play young so you know. Yeah we know who not ready yet. But you know that's how it is that well. What was I. Dimitrios you five championship and you want to change. You already. Know what you say. It makes no sense to me. Why are you switching up the plane? You Fi- championship senior. Bro Is Funny. Hear him say that because what he said after he's like okay but I don't know how wrong the run were less and NJ says planted. Let it player like when they lose their. You could talk your sheet. Will you know what maybe we need to research? But as long as they went in. Why would you even talk bad? Losing Breaking Rodman Scottie. Nj CUCO hand like that team was. Okay well we we're GONNA bring in some new talent. They had to be a high level of ego man involved. That's what he was. He had that he had like he on this team together. The greatest that's crazy s craziness. Man he had blood shoes. Now time about one point from the Pistons. The you know what I mean. There's crazy for for for An executive to even take sort of a an approach to business. What the wildest thing you experience like you know as a as a a as a young player you know when you say some welcome to the NBA tanks. She when you first coming into lead like just so some why should you like damn okay? I made two to three days winning the rookie year. I think was one when I was like Bro. I'm holding his trophy. Considered the best rookie decide right. You know what I'm saying and then hold up that trophy in the duck contest night in the end how everything changed the next day so I went from you know me. I want rookie of the year. Whatever whatever so. That was my moment. They kind of faded wings. What's HE GONNA do next dot contests happening doing what I did and literally the next day? If which. From a cool lifestyle to a rock star lifestyle issues like now after practice instead of talking to three for people in the media you talking to me and if you go to the row it ain't one or two people get autographed by to try to get you know. Fight crazy now Thanks go need security by secure. I never had like what okay. Yeah on the hill. That's what I was like was because so many Matt Light doing what we do played on stage put on a nice a great duck. Show people the put Toronto on the map in allies. Change your mind changing. Obviously when he goes on to Orlando to be a horrible. Do you think that was the best to handle? You've been a part of your team it as far as my career. I I think that our our wanted to petition right and it ended so early I think it would ultimately the best duo out of play one two point. Whatever you choose that in my career in you can just see the potential as I moved on a play Jake Kid at the Toronto Bread Lights. He made the game so easy. Monkey you what I'm saying. So he just he was. He threw the Broadway the outside. Oh I know what to do with it after that use. Mci and then you think of a plate with dirt You Know Have Panel B. Rob it right now. What I'm saying like all of them had different styles and and we come to different pull at the Yolk Strip right. That's what that's what I wanted. Rose Okay we could dominate together. Because like Jay the Best Point Guard. I try to give out the ball and be a facilitator win. He wanted to base the day. So I'm just GonNa be who I am and he made sure I was going to be the best that I could be. Same thing a play with it with dirt new dirt that but at the time. I was not the bitch but without coming into game I had to do. My job. Scored the Baltimat- you game easier for him. Sure and that was. I WanNa win absolutely now. What about your time that you spent you know as as a mental and og to trae? Young Kobo? I'll tell you He's in crazy. Incredible talent right. And that's what I said. I always every time I talked. My gotTa give Also coming into the League thank of win rookie of the year old attention. I started To that Trey young came into the game with a lot of attention social media attention which is foreign to up to me. As far as coming in 'cause we didn't have social media so just to see how he handled himself on. The social side was like I was impressed. He got it he got together. He wouldn't you know he just knew how to finesse. Duty Talking talking to say what you need to say. Do they need to do man? He's unbelievable talent. He wants to learn a he has fun out there in for smallest he has a player. Man He has. He has bitten game. tell you he's GonNa get better in a US what we see it now is just a young scratching the surface of what can be some Spanish support for expeditiously comes from our friends at rocket mortgage by quicken loans. Home today is so much more than it was yesterday. But it rocket mortgage home is still all about you if you need mortgage assistance. Their team is available. Twenty four seven to answer questions in office solutions from their home to your team at rocket mortgage is with you visit rocketmortgage dot com slash up to learn more call for cost information conditions. Equal housing lender licensed in all fifty states and MLS consumer excess. That all number thirty thirty. It's been a pleasure to watch you guys. You know what I'm saying like you know y'all have brought a a different level of energy to the city You know I had seen since Josh Judge Pachuco. You you know saying A. At tastes umbrella. I what I got here. I told I told fans in the media before we start I said look. We might not make the playoffs but just what she said. The potential you got young guys come play hard playing the game the right way but you see something like that okay. They trying to do some trying to you know what I'm saying. They ain't happy to be here just like deep boy he was put working night and you can see how much better we've got your two so like two years man. It might back. The fifty plus wins. The potential is just like you said Making the decision to you know what I'm saying to hang it up they go you know Some some yeah. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Although I do feel trae young it's shaping and moulding himself you know in to the leader day. What about the Nowadays BECAUSE GUS coming into game so young I think weasel organization organizations in general should not put that kind of pressure on a player to have to do it. I know what I came gals trying to show what I can do. WanNa win with you. Want him to focus on you. Tell them okay. If you need to do to be the go-to Guy Get US wins in. You know in the beginning. You can't do it. You don't learn the whole game because the game going like it's going fast against Okay no know to do this. Now let me start helping the people. He's he's starting to learning aspect of what I think. Even going his into his third year the organizations in my opinion would be fooled to feel like they have to give him. He has the veteran leadership to kind of lead got. He needs veterans to kind of help him and he can use his voice because I always tell them when things going back in time out before the coach walk in. I would like to to you. Timber don't talk to you you you the name. They need to hit the name. Get us where we need to be. And that's how you develop them habits little things like eight we gotta watch now. Wh- like go talk to your team. They need to fix auclair. Talk before the cops come in. That's right that's a key piece of advice. That's a key piece of advice. You know what I'm saying. You'll troops rally which you know in the Foxhole. That's important so tell me Bro. You play for a Lotta team and impacted the team's greatly that you play for He just an enormous amount of impact. But when tannery tie you Vince called Jerry's when they hang been sanity in the rafters overhead s just allow. Okay where do you will? What team do you want to have on Toronto Toronto started? That's that's what I mean. I stabbed I learned the game in asked. That was myself being six years. It will take what I learned from Jersey from Toronto and go to Jersey and go to Nick. I became the groundwork was built in Toronto. As a young star in budding star in I became the everything else after that so s how many teams playing for totally eight eight the tomato should be Landau Orlando Phoenix Phoenix to Dallas Memphis seven. Really okay. Seventeen Atlanta. Yeah Domino's of number sounds a man so as you exit out of this phase of your career entering into the next phase of your career eight who we live truth okay here in Sacramento you like a B. You sit there like it was a man did a year. Sacramento BIRTH SLIPPED MY MIND. I have to then so as is called a Man. I may like wait. What can you pass to do? I WANNA I wanna I WANNA do I want. I want to some broadcasting. I WANNA stay around the game. I want to continue to be a mentor. Some capacity I have aspirations of being a part of ownership group Omega on a team outright. Lie You know Mr Mj. But Mer go right but but at some point I want to be a part of ownership group. I can still be that mentor. That AENA IN I want to be the middleman to bridge the gap by the exempt for the ownership executives. I've been on the other side so I what we think on back to back some coming in late. Two Games losing three Could kind of educate some of those ones who never played the game before in other guys on the other side as well so I just want to one day? Hopefully I get that opportunity to be an executive Still helped young player like a trae young in general say so. That's my goal. I want to continue to do stuff I do in a community hold basketball camps since Do Christmas drives and thank you. I'M STILL WANNA keep foundation to do everything. I'm doing back home in here as well so I got a lot of things I WANNA do. You mentioned being a mentor to Young Guys. And you miss your relationship. We've been talking about your relationship with trae young. Who those guys for you you. I came into the lead. I'll start by saying my role model. Heroes Dr J. Number One. I now Vegas one in Vigo Basketball. And just the way he killed himself wanted to be Was was seen by other players around the league so but when I came in I came in ahead. Charles Oakley Kevin Willis Deeb Round Doug Christie Antonio Dame's all these vets was on my team as So that last game changing game I she move it move in like a month right to the locker room. I had six. I have five veterans. You know what I'm saying five. It's been in the game trevor. Now walk the locker room now. You might see a bit me. You know what I'm saying. So is a little different right. Oh you miss you Mr Man. Even you know saying a pillar of success man live. He was throwing-throwing us the rookie. Scotty pippin read. That's what you should do to me. He's shit ass cat. That's where I saw that I was like damn damn but I mean But to to so so. What's the the clearest difference between basketball then in basketball now the League physicality entitlement? You came into the game as a as a as a rookie in the nineties. Early two thousand you had to earn. It was no okay cool like yet. They're gonNA put your net positions to earn but Bradley you get beat up like it was a fight every night you it was hand to hand combat is now the game is faster. The game was slower so now it's easy to put your hands on people like you know. He's he's run enough fast. I can I can put my hands on now the game so ask like you can't touch anybody so now you come in with a little different attitudes. Mcconnell's leads a lot of coming out of high school back in the day. No there's some extra ones Cagey Mac. A cold You know a rain man Shawn Kemp like a few people's but like now they're doing one enduring yet but they coming in now expecting up. Rookie Nineteen That'll be my team but it's not by without earlier. That's the only difference. That's been tough for me to deal with. You know I wanNA see gas If they will give you the keys to the to the to the to the organization if I'd rather see earn so you appreciate eighteen yo million dollars and the power yeah Okay man now we gotta get down to question man. This is the question that got to ask you At the twenty two years you know what I'm saying leaving it all on the floor in the game of basketball decide to take Iran to the sunset as a legend right. Now Vince call does rain really metal at this point. Now here's why it doesn't So interesting I've been around twenty two year. That was the goal right. It is a go. I'm not going to quote unquote sell my get one gadget in. When I mean by that is that I feel like at this age. Forty three on the court is still being able to compete in play and do what I can do on the court. Yeah you could still play these heavy losses. Have you sow that you lost a step? Yeh Oh yeah for sure I know I also lost a little bit but like you know we sedale. That's go go go but I mean I'm a perfectionist. We are in our craft. Sometimes I get by. Who I don't want to buy these young fellows so bad but you know felony. Don't high little faster now. You know what I'm saying knowledge but my thing is if I go to differ another team out there that's primed and ready to win a championship. You know it ain't. It is not guaranteed that I'm play or lay a lot in a handled at At use my voice but can't use my skill. I want to educate Italian in Britain. game down to but sometimes you got to tell you that show him so which. Talk Matt and amazing when you tell them they don't catch home so so that's that's why is like Yeah WanNa win a championship? But I would go sell my soul and I just couldn't couldn't sit on on the end of the bench somewhere Like you're you're you're in my hand for chip in Iraq in don't feel like I was apart. I mean as far as I'm definitely a part of executive verbally My opinion can help. Educate these guys but at a works. Now you give me two more years when forty five and really came fake couple million to sit over on his best. That's different you about. Let me see what a seven seven or eight time also. Eight eight time all star. What would a wireless all star biggest deal available crazy Fayetteville crazy? I don't know how to the game right. And that's why I remember David. Stern said they will never ever ever be all-star game and so I don't forsee I was asked to see like now a NBA team. Going to vegas and know Dave started but I don't know where that big out of control and she was ever ages. Yeah but this way I was supposed to pet midnight. Damn yes that just left with drought POPs off because he he was hanging out with Of Light and then I thought about was like Nah. He's going to get on so now. And I was like Mom Jill and then that happened. Now be the man you know. I got away a man putting the hand in the situation and working it out. Now for those of you don't know man. 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Okay you know so I was just like that was my goal is to one day. I want to be in the duck contest winning dot contests hold a trophy up. Get up Outta there. I didn't want to make. I want you to see me on the duck contests in. Us break me of year make a career like what you just see me as a dunk Biology see me as do that. Got a lot of skilled Hang up there you go. That's much I want to be. Boxed Nina adjust athletes? A couple of guys WHO's Who's won the dunk contest? Bid A couple of times. Get boxed in. Don't let when people your name. Oh that's right that that's not what I wanted. E-e-e-e-no took to be thought of as but I wanted to actually go out there one night in display my ability win one in man. The fact that were Kyle you you you seem like a very ma'am man reserve you know gentleman right now but our call center game and you got it in on the court you had you know he heads Shell You know Fisticuffs court which one. Which one would you say was the most memorable. Two of them The one I was thinking we play output nets playing the Spurs Russell. Bruce bone was a defender. You know somewhat a dirty player. You know he's sneaky little Dirty plays in in their web so I was shooting the three now going Ham. I was like I was having good night. I was on the way to at least fifty plus and happening against the Spurs often end. Not again timber took a three. He stuck his foot up under there in landed on. Kinda rolled over the the the official like UNC. That he's told me to give up in bruce ball random like the hat. I just got up turnaround in just going straight for him. I was willing to suffer whatever consequences diack outback and went to Doda Putts. In court Currently referee asked him to this day. I still could offer the jaw trying to set all that. I didn't even care. That was the one that I remember in the game. It was just bad blood between us for because I just felt like it was a dirty play that Nothing was done. Nobody reprimanded for in. You know anything did. Y'All spoke says they're really have now yes their gas smoker. I'd I just I just I don't really see. I don't really seeing like that. So of doing the season like Plan like that. Okay now that give you this business again. So it has that ever happened. Oh man you get into cat on the court either almo get defined defined finding you catch him in the street some well. Has It ever spilled outside of the court? Yeah Yeah there's a couple of games finished with what started like you know because there's the opportunity what I'm GonNa tell you. Okay Jasdaq how okay. Okay you WanNa you WanNa talk like here now. Let's you can't break it up. I hit right. That's what he was on. You know yes. Oh just phenomenal entrepreneur. Now essiet he's a great coach. She's a coaching out. The Vanderbilt Tar heel. I'm the potatoes other store recipes up Kobe not play. Pick up Goma netflix again. Okay I school okay. We always battling going after so it was one time in la where it was going up in use extra grabbing holding pushing after the whistle. And this was a Yudo right now. This is the League we played in. Mla and we got to push back and forth and it got to light bird. Don't do that. Don't you took like a whole. You got it got there so you know when you start saying that you. Yeah that's what you start. His Komo Brown county down by codes kover surgery to. That's when it started. I what I'm saying like chicks. You got pushback with four and that was the first time. I one of my boys I. It was it with Wretched like okay. Laugh it off tonight. It was like I really want to fight you again but who who was winning at the time because it has a lot to do with the game. Yeah who win the game time it was a it was a battle to where we were going back and forth every play and it was like pull back where you can see your elbows soda so it was one of them might. I'm trying to get to the rat heart in. Go go through him. He doing the same so it back in the time. It was like when the whistle blow. Nobody advantage so you WANNA go with. Just shoot the ball after to get a free shot right. Though he brought me family to whistle-blowing. I'm still trying to finish this up. He grabbed me on the arm. Light TO YOU A. But I was like wait. What just went back. You know really trying to do so. Then you know the reality legal breaks it up but it never. We ain't talk much after that by before games. It was kind of a quick doubt. If you know it was just like trying to kill you. You know spilled outside of that right. The competition fears man. Who would you say there ever been a moment where you felt like Dan Moore foggy me that? Do we just talked about Kobe. Yes Albuquerque. Hey I've got t MAC. I'll be me me. Matt used to go after each headlight. We cousins on what it was like. That's bragging rights but like at the light me a breast You try to dopamine tonight. Why are you standing one type things like that was he? He's got the best in a couple of hours like A. Obviously a Armand is just eat. The playoff in two thousand two thousand one rather we will go back and forth. He was going forty. Four hundred fifty points with only slight brother. You couldn't stop them and coat you amy. Yeah man she man to hell of them focused say looking back right now. What's something earlier in your career? You feel like got you know upset. A major loser temple in a game this kind of trivial to you now listening to the media when they tried to when they tried to put pit me intimate against each other. So I I W we just found out. We were cousins. Two Years Prior spoke with his his rookie year that we play Ewbal for teams explode on a younger teams team. All these years never looked cousins. The year he came out as the to be drafted to run as a rookie is when we found out that cousin. He was sitting at the family reunion table. My grandma s member. You've you've taught McGrath. He was like yes. You by from North Carolina. What my grandson when IN HOUSTON? Okay who's degreaser? Shiite Vince Carter. He's like what that s from getting. A phone call was cousin because so you know that was that was that was and then the next year I get drafted trump them so when he leaves after two years. They tried to get us against each other right at. That's the one thing I've always held onto like once. I finally had a sit down. Conversation WITH HIM LIGHT UTAH. Brian never say with by the media going to issue the exactly. Switch it up. Take some words out outlawed. Laso afternoon I always was very hesitant cautious in understood high-gain work outside of the court like with the media. You know when you say something. Some people don't care can say what they say but like talking about they were trying to pick me cousin Bang that's that's the Knicks next level. May that's experience to teach you. You know what I'm saying that like what's important. You know what I'm saying. You give your family. That's going supersede. See anything that the media in any service she got to do it. And that's the funny thing you say when you say that you know I was like at four so by the time I was like. Let me let me call do breath in talk to really understand this understanding. You know what I'm saying so if there's a beach families supposed to talk out whether we wanna hear the not right you know what I'm saying so we will we start. We talk about his by even say that so now. We go undercover. We've we do an idiot. So I'm here. They say Oh Matt said is not aim high with Dell so now see. I live with that forever like I understand. So that's why I want to be meeting chasing S. What's up that makes sense you know. Usually things change from the inside so i WanNa know if the game is changed at all for you. I mean you doing what you love for living. You've been doing it for twenty two years but from the time you get into game two right now. Light has it changed to the With more like work now. Yes yes and I say that because a in I'm trying to establish myself and I'm on top of the world in you know I'm franchise go-to Guy and obviously go through ups and downs. You don't win. You gotta deal with what you gotta do with but when you when you older trying to play this game in the game is in there is the game is fast. Get Round game as a lot faster. More teams play faster than what it was today. Now when they look at a look at your age they'll look extra production right so I'll walk into a meeting like you know. But how many games play birth. Look at look at the resume in my forties. How many games that I play out of eighty two games? I missed one game. You name the year before that I missed one game that I couldn't play if the coast We will sit you out because no you're older. We WanNa make sure like to to be able to do this. You know what I'm saying. That's what I've been doing for twenty plus years so that's the tough army light having to deal with so but other than that good man dope dope seeing you hear ran the city in Atlanta man. I love it. It's just the right time to be here for me at home thirties Yep You know what I'm saying. Hey It's been A. I have family. Who lived here Throughout the time is close to Home Sarah. I'm from Florida got fit my daughter. My oldest lives in Detroit. So this is this is It's all kind of this. Is up recovering all kinds of businesses. All kind of just entrepreneurs opportunity Influence people I love being out. I'm not a super super historian but when histories in front of me. I'm listening and you get the opportunity. Every man I got A. I'll say I got the opportunity to talk with Mr Andrew Young Yeah Ambassador. Young and it's definitely obviously you know for laser Near I've had the opportunity to talk with him and I enjoy stuff like I'm in deeply into music in As as I was in the band I used to write music for the band. I used to do all in the south. So you know with marched A right I was a drum major so I have you know A super passive for music You know I can engineer by all a studio at home because I love. It's so when my boss was doing. I wanted to do like when I'm building my house. I'm like I let me get a weight room. Let me give Jim. I need a theater in studio right here. Just very little news so it always seems like you know I'll rappers. Wanted to be athletes. Athletes wanted to be rebels at some point in time in they life is some well another. You know what I'm saying Have you ever play ball with a rapper? And you more impressed with skiers without you would be There's a few parts of a masterpiece was my teammate. What you play with nat asked He. He originally played with Charlotte and the next year. He came to us in Toronto. So my second year this is back when I saw my risk That came out. That's what TV so he literally Adam doing training camp so a player repeat. It was crazy breath. Because that's when you know Nolan was on top and doing thing so hit the following. This heated heated make team for regular season but a preseason following us everywhere just seeing the violence in the love. He got in watching his brothers. Silk Can Silken who can who so have made at Brown over just like got to I kinda tough to wear for the and there is Romeo. Romeo can lower he can hook. He played he used on the team. Usc At out there Who Else I know. O'brien Nike Ball is a couple of people. But yet man. This is some distant guys out the outside. Not Bad now man. I ain't never really beyond which Bro when I when I was growing up. I was always the youngest and a little on the block man. You know what I'm saying. I never got picked so I. I took it upon myself to go up to the basketball. Court Man Candlelight Flatten Out. The ball on the go pick somebody. I never got good basketball. I never really worked at it. I never worked at a hard enough. It was always re wrapping hustling was always like can do just what I had said in my mind that I was going to do but I have. I have a love for the sport and you know have a competitive spear if you pick me for a team and the pickup game won't find a way to contribute foul school a lot. Appoint someone getting rebounds and steals in create. You know what I'm saying. Create opportunities would assist. I I ain't GonNa just sit down but I'm not to be the best athletes on the court So tammy like Quavo Man Quavo at Cueva could do anything right now but I watched him who I was like okay. I think we could do anything. I don't change played high-school so right Cueva who dirk of your Leclerc who Gee Her Boca. Who who still video her vote. Yes yeah there's a few cats that man they you know what I mean they go. They go up for Travis. Travis gagging who But you know what I'm saying. I just enjoy watching the two cultures. Come together you know what I'm saying. Because obviously there's a huge cultural presidents A BASKETBALL IN HIP HOP. And there's a true presents a hip hop in basketball. So just seeing the to come together and it's always been ria cooled just to to observe it and it was needed a be honest. It the love of the game. You know Basketball dust people like you said you enjoy watching it and going to see games and just watch. Athletes do what they do. And then you could incorporate the our culture if you would go into the game or not only us as African American but the other cultures who come to you know who indulge in our music because well I enjoyed it so when they the best of both worlds and I think that's what's needed I really do and that's what's happening right now. Now would you so? Would you consider coaching METADATA line? Now not initially you rather lie broadcast and be more executive executive level right like GM so she liked it all out of the holidays. Okay would you start at GM or you want to come in? Is You the opportunity to go straight to our will but like I definitely something in the executive area by your president just depends like we talk? What's what's the difference in. Gm and president so like the one who's making all of the the the the trees use the one that is the day to day guy. I guess extensive He's on fall and some some some. Gm's our presidents or have dual jobs in the president. He does some overseeing the GM is the one that's on own making a phone calls every day so you know. I'd have to think hard about that. I liked I liked Input GATE PUT teams together. So maybe a sister. Gm He assists with those but yet still works players as well. Then see me doing. If if ownership doesn't happen now I will do like something like assistant. Jim Is okay. I just want to be in it just to be in it and don't know what I'm doing right that's As key point you talked about earning the earlier so I mean I see what you go with that but I'm glad you you you see it. Gm because they goes with that next question if you're the GM of the hoax if you're the GM of the house What do we need to do to bring get? Landlord is first championship. How moves do we need to make. I'd I as a player who's been around in many different areas and see many different super teams. I think you need a balanced squad of young in Jeddah youthful talent and you need veteran presence that can contribute not discontinues. They voice you need. We need a thing. If I'm I'm looking for some veteran presence to help all this US I don't I don't I don't I don't like seeing teams. That has a team of seventeen players in thirteen. Fourteen of them are twenty three young at his. Feel like you know it just is not I don't want to use. I hit us her blindly nearby. But it's the inexperience lead inexperienced. Some of these. You have if you have five four to five veteran team. Who's been through the fire? Who Don't it rattled in big games or when they GONNA four game losing streak or so something like that. Now he's got have somebody to turn to learn the game you gain right when you get to. The big game is nothing because you. You've been educated. You know what I'm saying this off season WHO's the best fit for Atlanta? That you'd think if it's NOT PASTA. Land another big. Sme has some young talent. So it's it's tough to go land a big name in what you do. It just depends on what that big big name is in who he is but free agency Good names I just yeah free agency I WANNA get knowing how NASA Speak now a bit. You just seeing. What's out there? Like you know. Now veterans or players look at teams like okay. What they let you know what? I'm saying anything that close to winning. Everybody don't WanNa come here so it just depends on what's out there but I I'm definitely saying go. Get some experience veterans who have a WHO who have some playoff spirit. Because that's what's needed because the goal of the team is to make the playoffs next year. So if you WanNa make the playoffs you need to get some gas. We've been there before to put you in that position when it's time so. I don't know who the free agency. That's why I can't really give you a young man. You read man you ready for the media you ready for broadcast and right now brother. Hey man it's been lovely man heavy you here as a I I salute you. Respect you I've I've been marveling at your career. The time you came in the league bras been impressive. What you've done. How many teams you've done it for and steal that you maintain a level and astounded of success throughout your entire career. Twenty two years man I wish you put the the the most Successful years outside of the a whatever. 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Vince Carter's Remarkable Career (Rebroadcast)

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Vince Carter's Remarkable Career (Rebroadcast)

"It! Is a weird way to end the career for me. But. This is the way it goes. Sometimes I'm one with it earlier this month Vince Carter announced his retirement from the NBA in the midst of a pandemic, and without getting to complete his final season. It's a great career great run. Just great to be around the guys today we're replaying episode that first aired on our show back in March. The Chris Kirschner joined us to look back at Vince Carter remarkable career, and to discuss what vincinity meant to the city of Toronto. Here's the episode. Sue Chris. Let's start by talking about Vince Carter's time in Toronto. Obviously, we know now that the raptors are the reigning NBA Champs but it was a completely different story in the ninety s when Vince Carter arrived. I remember an interview. Actually I did with vans last year and he was talking about. Nobody cared about basketball in Toronto. Raptors were not good before he got there maybe layups famous jams. They jump shots. You name it. They missed it in fact at sixty eight points and a thirty point nine shooting percentage, this marked the worst offensive output in team history, and when Vince really there, that's when basketball took off. This guy. He was the high flier half man half amazing. Stackhouse to. Sorry? Breast. Nickname at first air Canada Vince was the guy in Toronto. Up on the mark, king the extra. Bids Charter. Really put the rappers on the map and he helped the raptors get to the playoffs for the first time we've seen over the past several years in in the NBA. Is We've seen? canadian-born players come into the League in a lot of those guys credit vince for really starting their love of basketball, so he was an incredibly important one of the most influential Canadian, not canadian-born but Canadian players to ever play, and and not only basketball, but sports in general. In those early years Vince. Carter had some legendary highlights right. He won the dunk contest in two thousand, and frankly like. If you were a basketball fan in two thousand, you could have said we can just cancel all subsequent Doug contest after if I was eight years old at the time. So just watching Ed I mean you're you're just but even going back now and re watching that performance. It's incredible it's it's arguably the best dunk contests performance that we've ever seen. With his. That's that's. detail. That is a reverse three sixty. Get the grade. That is unbelievable. Building. Just exploded how fluid he was how amazing it was to watch him fly through the air. Table. Skirts. It was one of the best moments in all star game history, and and it's something that will live well beyond. Vince is career and something that will be talking about for years to come. Later that year at the Sydney Olympics in a game between the US and France Vince gave us yet another highlight reel. He jumped over Frederick Vice Carter. Crap response to a spectacular. Don't trump it's. Just, look at this spectacular take. He jumped over his head. I mean Frederick Vice. You GotTa know. It's arguably the best in game dunk ever and I feel like it's. It's hard to argue otherwise you know. Vince is not a seven footer. He's six six, and he jumped literally over the man's head in the Olympics and it's funny because I remember Vince himself was saying that in the moment he had no idea that he actually had jumped over him. I get the wall and I try to one to attack and I'm just trying to. Be An athlete this jump up there and in figure it out from there so I never actually knew I jumped over him until later on, that's. This all instinct, yes! Land that's nothing that you think about. I don't even think I could do something to think about jumping over someone who is as tall as seven feet. It just doesn't seem comprehensible and invents made it look so effortless, and that's exactly what Vince is. Career was when it came to dunks. It was just effortless. Vince was very much on the rise as this explosive in an unbelievably entertaining star, but in the two thousand one playoffs, his career hit a pivotal moment. Two thousand one. It was their best season with mints, and there is definitely some controversy with that with Vince because in those playoffs against Allen Iverson and the Philadelphia Seventy sixers wants this seven games Vince actually on on the day of game seven went back to North Carolina and walked across the stage first graduation because it was a promise, he made some his mother. There were some people who questioned including some of your teammates. Who questioned your decision to go to north? Carolina considering the magnitude of this game? What's your response to that criticism? Have no common for. Defected Matters I'm here. I'm ready to put. A. Lot of people are calling this the biggest game in Toronto. Raptors franchise history. If you take a step back and look at it that way. Can You understand that there would be concerned? I don't CARE CARE Communist calms into some in the big, the biggest game commerce, the biggest thing in my life, and that's to graduate so. Fast a few hours. Vince takes the final shot in game seven. and. That's really weird. Things started turning for Vince and the fans of Toronto because they felt like he probably shouldn't have done that in. You know if he didn't go. Who knows if he makes the shot? I I don't know I. Think it's just a weird situation and I was probably where things started to get a little weird for Vince and Toronto. So the next year Vince miss the playoffs because of knee surgery and the team started to lose a lot of games over the next few years, and Vince was reportedly not happy I asked about this. You know last season and he was kind of kind of brushed it off a little bit, but what reportedly happened was he wanted a new start, you know he felt like the rafters were not going on a trajectory where they were going to be in playoff contention, and he felt like he just didn't fit in the team's plans anymore, so what happened was he just wants a management and his agent and and requested out of Toronto and they decided to trade him to New Jersey for. A package that included Alonzo Mourning And then things got even deere with his fans back in Toronto, because after he arrived in New Jersey. He did this interview where it almost sounded like he was saying he didn't really go out for the raptors. Convince Connor has pushed himself as hard as he should have pushed him so in years past now. Forcing to have the talent NBA. You get spoiled when you're able to do a lot of things and you see that and you don't have to work at it, but now I think with so much with all the injuries and the things going on, have to work a little harder and. I'm a little hungry. He was kind of upset that people would actually think that he wasn't trying hard, but his numbers did increase pretty dramatically. You know. He was averaging sixteen points per game Toronto final season, and then he goes to new. Jersey is averaging over twenty seven, but he felt like the nets were using him in ways that Toronto wasn't. In. TORONTO AND HARM US IN IN JERSEY is totally different, but also. I think people just want to feel that way. Just because yeah, they're meant that I left and I. Understand that and I don't have a problem with that. Well in. It's weird to think about this now, but at the time he was a villain in Toronto. Yeah, it was really bad that first game back in Toronto when he was in New Jersey. He was viciously booed. Carolina six carbon. People were wearing baby bibs that had number fifteen. A bit. A wide assortment of signs. Paraphernalia. Course, Vince. Carter's Uber's injuries while a raptor. exploited. People wearing shirts that said. It was really vicious. Word. It definitely got through because you know. He felt like he grew up there. That was first NBA team and succeed that fan reaction. It really got so and those first few seasons when he was with New Jersey. The fans just were very very relentless. When you make your bed in the morning, it starts a chain of daily successes I mean. What feels better than making your bed every morning and kicking the day off right? What about the sheets that go on it Brooklyn in his home to the Internet's favorite sheets and for me, it brought new life to my sleeping space now I can't wait to hop into bed every night. 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They just showed a video tribute parter on the big screen. At first a lot of fan started booing. And then they started rising and percent on. The guy that used to call Air Canada. Has Been cheered loud. and. Maybe there is some closure. It was really awesome to see that reaction because that's when it really. Started turning into you know him being celebrated once again and just from talking with him for the past two seasons. You could sell how much Toronto means to him. He just loves that city. He's invested in that city. He's done a ton of camps in. Ohio He's tried his best to give back to the canadian-born players who grew up watching him, and now to finally see that back in two thousand fourteen for himself. It really meant everything to him because he had finally felt that he was forgiven. And it's hard to pinpoint exactly why Toronto fans forgave him, but do you think this is just a matter of time passing in this case a lot of time passing yeah I, think so and Toronto. They were starting a new chapter with Kyle lowry and Marta rose in know those were Toronto's new guys, you know. They became the face of the franchise, so I think it was a matter of just them becoming a relevant once again in the NBA. Do you think that Canadian basketball fans? Just once? They were able to kind of turn the page with this new guard, and with a new look for their team that they were able to really just kind of. Sit back and evaluate what Vince Carter meant to basketball in their country. Absolutely because when he got Toronto, there were no kids playing in the streets and dribbling basketballs. You didn't see basketball hoops on every block, or you know people wearing raptor shirts, these that really change when you know that team and himself in particular really put basketball on the forefront of people's minds so I think that was probably a big reason. Why Canadian fans over time you said you know what Vince did a lot for Toronto and this country, and it's probably time to turn that page. We'll see now. Vinci's forty-three. He's the only player who has played in four different decades. You've covered him with the hawks where he's been the last couple of. Of Years. How is his role different? Now in the league than it was back in his superstar days, both on and off the court. Yeah, I mean on the court obviously studer his age and physical limitations. He's not dunking the ball anymore. It's a rare treat to see Vince stunk. It doesn't warm like he still has it, but in game situation just rare on the court. He's more so just become a three point specialist off the court. He's the father figure in the locker room. He's the guy that the rookies wants to turn to and yet as much advice in as much wisdom as they possibly can. That's what it's all about just. Sharpening the minds and opening new ideas and opportunities for them and be tough on them and just get them ready. Can He loves when the rookies and second year thirty year players asking questions because you know, he wants to impart what he learned throughout his entire journey into the new age like he wants his experiences to live through them in especially with this hawks team. It's a really really young roster, and he's pretty much an extension of the coaching staff for the Hawks. He's the one showing is how to. To properly positioned their feet when they're shooting three, he's the one telling trae young how to navigate the media and how to navigate becoming a superstar in the league like he loves that and I think it's rare to have someone like Vince. WHO's obviously going to be a future hall of Famer WanNa take time out of his day to to make the next generation as good as he possibly can. In perhaps one of the more poetic moments that we've seen in a in a superstars late career Vince, did throw down a dunk to pass the twenty five thousand point threshold last year. Bitch fires. Bird or gets it back. To. The Pantheon. The, greatest stories. There was awesome and happening against the raptors to. Just being at that game, you could sell that. He really really wanted to get the twenty five thousand points against the raptors I'm good now I. I'm I'm happy I'm thankful for this opportunity to be a very league group I mean. I don't care if fame or not. I'm in a group where you know when you're talking about scoring. It's not many can say they have this many points, so man I'm I'm just thankful. The Raptors were day understood what was going on, so they kind of you know docked off a little bit on defense specially when he drove down the lane and got that dunk. And got his twenty-five thousand point. They understood the moment, so that was really cool to see because again like. This is a guy who's an icon, and in Raptors, history, and so watch the current iteration of the raptors. Do that for Vince. It was really special to be there because you could sow how much respect Vince has and that's probably the coolest part of these past two seasons. You go to any ARENA DETROIT. The guys in the Pistons Locker Room. Just have an immense amount of respect for Vince. He was one of the guys they looked up to when they were younger and so just watch the smiles on their face. See Their reaction to getting to play him. It's awesome, and that's something again. That's that's part of INSA legacy. How beloved he became especially in this latter half of his career. So there are a couple of. Aspects to the final years of his career, and one is that he never chased the ring right like he'd never demanded to go to a contender to get a championship, you know. He agreed to sign and re-sign with Atlanta. which let's be us as a lottery bowing team. Why do you think Vince Carter was not obsessed with getting a championship? How was one of the first questions I asked Vince when he first signed with Atlanta? You know I asked him. Him like you're bound for the hall of fame, you don't have a championship. You haven't really come close to winning a championship. He's never played an NBA finals game. Why go this route? Why sign with a team like Atlanta? And he said that's just not part of his DNA I. He never wanted to be that Fifteenth Man on the bench shoe would never play a game if he was going to wintering, he wanted to win it being a contributor. Won't so Vince Carter might not have gotten the send off that he expected or deserved, but it certainly was beautiful. Can you walk us through? What might have been his final NBA game last Wednesday? So the NBA announced the suspension of the season, it was it was in the fourth order. Is out tonight that it is suspended. Until further notice that will have more detail. It's suck me like fifteen ish minutes after that to realize that this is probably Vince. Carter's final game, so the fans I think when the fans saw that the NBA announced that the season was going to be suspended. A lot of them were channing. We want Vince. We want Vince. Vince. Figure that you know this was probably going to be the final time that they saw him. On an MBA floor I ran down to the hawks bench because I figured that something was going to happen with Vince. I saw his teammates trying to push toward the scores. Table in Vince is not one of those guys who really likes all the attention, so he was trying to avoid it, but you know it got overwhelming at some points, and after a while he just gave into his teammates, and void pierced the Hawks head coach. Chuck Vinson with nineteen seconds left on the clock. They gotta give a defense. He's gotTa take three. The. Vicks or applauding? Your triples out the bottle seconds Vince Carter leaves the floor heroes. And he got pretty emotional after the game he talked about twenty minutes in a post game press conference, and if this was the end of it, he was going to be fine with it. He said himself that he was at peace I'm one like an appreciative, but. You Know I. Do my time and just. Walk out the doors. Okay with me, you know, believe in that but school! THEY BELIEVE IN IS I. Just. As be good. Asked him about you know if he had any family in attendance because this was likely the final game, that's when he actually started getting emotional, because he only had one of his friends. Now dismembered. Who let me come back here. His children were there, so that part was really difficult. Because you know they're probably not going to have another opportunity to see him. You know playing an NBA game so I think that part was the part that really got swim. It didn't matter that you know. His final fifteen games weren't going to be played. It was just the fact that now he didn't really have any family there and I think that's what he wanted the most. How do you think Vince Carter will be remembered by basketball fans? What's his legacy? I think he is. Probably, the best in Game Dunker we have seen, and it's unfortunate, though that that's his legacy because those first few seasons in Toronto you could see him becoming one of the game's greatest players. There was a time where it was looking like Vince was going to be one of those next all time. Just legends and those knee injuries really set him back, and he never really reached his full potential. You Know Pete very very early and for over a decade now like he's been a six man, and and journeyman like we spoke of, and it's unfortunate because it's also a career where you look back on and say you know what could have been if if he didn't have these injuries. The players talk about you're looking up to Michael Jordan and and looking up to Kobe Bryant Lebron James Vince Carter at one point. He was the guy you wanted to emulate in your yard, or he was the guy you wanted to emulate on the streets. I grew up in the Bronx, and not a lot of green space in the Bronx, but whenever there was. Was a hoop. You wanted to try and throw down a dunk between your legs. Because Vince Carter was doing that he was the guy you wanted to be like. When you are older. In for my age, I'm twenty seven and a lot of these kids in the NBA my age, and even younger like he was the guy who was the definition of cool. Well thanks so much Chris Thank you. You can follow Chris Kirschner coverage of the Atlanta Hawks at the athletic dot com from wondering on the athletic. I'm beat the Davidson See, tomorrow Hey wandering listeners, boyer host of wondering show the daily smile every day we share heartwarming stories that will lift you up. 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Up/Down: Vince's Best Dunk, CJ's Wine, Crocs

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Up/Down: Vince's Best Dunk, CJ's Wine, Crocs

"A. Sweet world and welcome to the no dogs podcast on the Athletic Network! It's Friday June twenty sixth. I'm Jay. skeets joining us here on the phone. We got task Melles. Hey, everybody, Hey! We got the beard in one Trey Kerby. International Man of mystery, taking it to the Max Leila's friend. Last but not least making the magic happen on a Friday. Jd Hello Darius and here we are. Thank you so much for joining us. It's time for the up down report new planning. It's now. Here we go, it's been a while guys since we've thrown some thumbs up or down on some NBA and Non Mba topics are first one though half man half amazing fully retired after twenty two seasons in the NBA Vince Carter has called it a career. The forty-three-year-old announced that he is officially done playing basketball professionally on his podcast, winging it with Vince. Carter and that's the angle to this up down question where he announced it. Are you up or down test on Vince announcing his own retirement on his very own podcast. Huge down huge down. He should have done it on this show, yes. Of course. A I've salivated that man for years. How much more does he want? He was on our show on the starters. I asked him. When are they going to retire your number in Toronto? You are the reason that basketball still exists in the Air Canada Center Toronto it's all you. You made me by season seats with my buddy sets, and his younger brother sets, and his Daddy Siamese sets and my mic nomi got in there in two thousand one. Everybody loves events, but I don't. Don't think anybody could depict. All those light reveals that we're seeing right now better than I could everything every single one of those dunks from those raptor years. Nobody remembers them like I do. I could've brought them up to Vince and we could relive them but hey, vince, Vince, yeah, of course, he's going to do it on his own show good for him. He's always winging it and I'm looking forward to seeing the next chapter for Vince because. He played basketball for a long time. Oh. How old in my how how old are? We So I'm looking forward to the next chapter for Vince and and. Not, only was I- salivating. I was throwing up my little photos out. There Vince Carter Lee was thrown out his photos of t took of a Vince. Carter with him at the Was that the NBA Finals Lee yet at last year in Golden State we did a nice little feature there, and I don't know if you saw it as well. Morgan Mitchell throw shared out the video of Vince in that full suit that he was wearing. yeah I was right there for that, too. It was it was incredible to see the old man just getting up. There thrown down this awesome reverse. This old man. was in baggy suit because he's usually a sort of a baggy suit. Knows pretty well. You know pretty well tailored to him. Case task. He should have come on this podcast to announce his retirement because I was thinking this guy to be the first podcast retirement of all time, but that's not true August twenty first twenty. Nineteen Matt Austin retires on the free agents. We have a history of letting people come out and say they're very last thing. Well. Put Play trae patio did retire on this podcast. Is that what you were just looking up pre show when you. Played Our podcast. That's exactly right and to see exactly what it was You know almost a year couple months short. Wow, see I think I think being actually sold that. And he saw that Matt's moved out to La, and he's looking for another gig and Vince was like. I don't want to fall into that trap, so he announced on his own podcast. Showing the Vince is actually got his second career already figured out. He's going to be getting in the PODCAST game, so we're going to have competition for Vince so. I think this was a smart decision by him. He's GonNa he's going to get some eyeballs. Get some buds on his part, and and this is what he's GonNa, do now. He's going to become a media personality which we've had him on the show a few times. He's always there doing media things during the final, so vince is really just actually. This is a smart play. He's like I'm ready for my second career, so thumbs up for doing it on his on his own podcast. He's thinking ahead chess out there. Everybody's. Everybody's playing checkers I'm west. Look I'm I'm up I'm up on this as well. You know Kudos to Vince. It's yeah. He had always said he's a man of his word. Let's be honest. He said he was like. This is my last year. And then, of course it ended oddly with the shutdown and his final game was like early March, but he's told you this last year. Not just because you know, it doesn't matter that this pandemic happened I'm done. Sorry guys, so yeah, he's a man of his word. Has Anybody taking credit for putting Vince back in on the night that the season's shutdown I, know Lloyd Pierce tweeting that he feels honored that he called the play to get Vince his last basket, but It wasn't necessarily easy in the middle of March to say. For, sure Vince Carter is not playing ever again in the NBA, but he got back out there for those last couple of seconds knocked him a three. Good, thanking, whoever that was yeah. That was a strange night. It was literally. I don't thirty minutes or forty five minutes after they sort of made the announcement, and the sneak him in there, luckily, the head and overtime to give Vince Carter in there and I was. At something when you look back at it I I know Vince. Feels like he kind of retired year as well and because he's been saying goodbye especially as rapper since he's been saying goodbye to the Air Canada Toronto several times when he's with the Grizzlies. Will this be his last game, but? It is, it's a story. As the the corona virus comes down on the country. He gets in one more one more time and hits a shot and. You know watching that play that are man, worldwide web clipped and watching all those dunks that the double pump by Chris Mullin the dunk over Alonzo, mourning the dunk on decamp. What's his greatest dunk pass? What do you think of this? Because we were debating this in a group chat the other day, yeah. My God. I had to pick one and let's say you can't pick. The one in the Olympics yeah I'd probably pick that one I picked the nastiest one was on Lonzo yeah. But the prettiest one. I think was the double-pump Baseline by Chris. Mullin, he's just gliding either so frigging many. because. The soup that he throws down. Its against the clippers right doesn't floats in the air any still like hammers like one hand to do I mean it's not on anybody, but it's. It's pretty damn amazing to sort of like a dunk contest dunk. There are too many you're right I think it is the one and I hate it because he's an nets, Jersey. But the one on Alonzo is just disgusting, and it's smooth, too. Because he's got the little behind the back at the beginning of the clip to get into the lane, and then to detonate on him, I just hate that he's in a New Jersey. Go with that one, too. Though because it's Alonzo Mourning, here's one of the greatest shot-blocking. and gets up there, and he smashes into him and then just throws down clean NFL. Just amazing like if you're gonNA dunk on, someone took a world famous shot blocker I just think that makes it even better, not just donkey on a Steph. He's Chris. Mullin was a hello. All right what trading favorite I mean I guess you're banning the dunk contest dunks from being. In the in the mix, but for me that I dunk contest dunk is the iconic moment of Vincent Career Full Stop. But if you gotTA talk about an in Game Dunk, and it's got to be in the NBA I, do love his lazy three sixty. He does on the break where it's basically just him. He spins the other way any lands. He kind of almost collapses to the floor, just yeah, so lazy and like. I can do a three sixty anytime. I want to no big deal I loved it. No one's going to. Pick! Vince Carter Dunk where it got him to twenty five thousand career points and we were in attendance. After when? We were there man. History. He became like the twenty second players like at that time, and it was with a dark. Pretty Amazing. Were you holding up the two or the five when we took the photo after the game? Not The to I usually throw a piece signs right. So that makes sense. Yeah so happy trails to Vince. You're right. He's just going to take over media now. Be podcasts or being on television. We're probably both because he's so damn good at it all right our next one. Trailblazers, CJ mccollum has joined the ranks of NBA stars fronting wine brands. His two thousand eighteen Pinot Noir is mccullum heritage, ninety one inaugural wine made in partnership with adults Hind Vineyard CJ joins a long list of NBA players who have invested in the wine industry. We got mellow. We got weighed Yao Ming. There are many others, so are you up or down on the growing trend of MBA? Player Winds Lee. What do you think well I'm up on it I think it's a great investment, but it's a tough market to crack. That's the key here for CJ. mccollum I couldn't find much selling it for I saw the fifty dollars somewhere. Yeah, we'll see that's crazy. That's crazy because. Listen if you, what Shock Tank Kevin, O'Leary will always tell you like eighty five percent of one in America cells between ten and fifteen dollars, people, most people don't have a sophisticated pallet I just want a bottle of wine. That's like reasons why Kuroda exactly exactly so you selling it for fifty bucks. That's going to be tough to really get any traction on. What is already extremely tough market to crack, so if I'm Cj you don't WanNa, throw it out there for five bucks and it looks like a cheap wine. You can go somewhere around like ninety nine, thirty, nine, ninety nine hundred people are like okay. I'll try that. Fifty Bucks for your first one I. Don't think a lot of people are going to say I'm GONNA. Try that one. Cj Columns name on it yet, but he's not A. He's not a name in the wine world yet. It's going to build up that credibility so. Look? He knows he's one. I've seen interviews going back like a couple of years talk one. He knows what he's doing there, but you know it's like a rookie. Rookie doesn't just come out when MVP really doesn't. I mean from Kansas pocket, so he's got A. He's got a build up that wine. History of making good wines before he can stop thrown out a fifty dollar bottle. Right now making the winds, that's that's why I guess he could charge fifty bucks because they probably charge fifty dollars already, or maybe it's forty and you get ten bucks because it's got CG mccombs name on. And I! Don't care I'm Joe I'm a huge man on this. Putting your name on something. You didn't make a big deal. They didn't make it. I'm sure he was involved in the process of picking these grape varieties. Of. Grapes thirsty well Lee told me so in the wine. I've seen stories about that, too. Yeah I'm assuming he had some say in this I mean. It's no different than a Lebron making another Nike. Sneaker I'm sure he has say it's not like he's making the downs, but he also plays and basketball sneakers well, okay. Good countered that Gee now. This this pin is apparently smooth, and it features a taste of Cedar and Cherry. Does that interest do? It doesn't interest me. I would like to try it, but I. Hate to say it I'm a I'm with Leeann this when fifty bucks is too much for a bottle. Don't call me on the fifty dollars. I think I saw that somewhere, but. Now I feel bad if it's not maybe twenty five ninety nine for all I know, but. Yeah I'll try it I will defecate try. you mentioned that? CJ is not an established name in the winemaking game, but skips a whole bunch of players who do have their winds out previously. Who would you take advice from? That's in the NBA on which winds. You should be drinking. Gregg Popovich for sure because. The big wine and every time he goes out. He likes to make sure they get good quality one and he can afford it. He's been around the one game forever, so yeah Popovich in fact when he was in Melbourne. For the team USA versus truly asked him if he does sampled any good wines out there, and he said not yet, but he he knows that Melbourne has a good wine history, so pop noses, stuff and Looked wine way he's. He's out there right now. which is great, but he had that little public. The Public Relations thing with our Gordon, which I think was planted, so he's trying to break in. That's what cj need some sort of little viral moment if he wants to get his one out there selling them for fifty bucks. Oh Wow, so maybe he should like manufacturer a beef with his own teammate. Who Does right rap lyrics? He could start beefing with us if he wants to be. Ready, this, year. Trashing his wine come on pull up, C. J. Right here smash bottles of wine. Yeah let's video smashing his. Co. About. Well, we just make their own Wa. What are they that okay? We. Call them that we. Know Vines. Not Really dunks! To lead. You have a favorite type of wine. MULLEBECK. That's probably my favorite, but and the thing is with Mullebeck. She can get those for like ten bucks, or you can spend like thirty eight bucks on one if you want them. So I'm around. I like to spend around sixteen to seventy dollars online music I don't like to go for the dirty one but I just anytime with jd and we're having dinner. I like jd select the one and we. And we get through it so. That's where it comes into it because I trust JD's trust, jetties, wine, intelligence, and knowledge and why? I asked my my my wine. Taste is like my beer taste. I like the Yellow Beer. Just give me the yellow one. It's usually. Whatever? It's something about the atmosphere and the. Daddy you take the wind you know. I'm going to enjoy it. So that's what that's. What drinking ones about. It's not just the one. It's the environment you're in when you're having one hundred percent rights experience. and. Good luck to CJ on his new wine partnership. That's big right next one. The Oklahoma City Thunder have finally signed guard Lou dort to a multi year contract, according to ESPN Roisi on the deal is for five point. Four million over four years first year covers nineteen twenty season while twenty twenty, one fully guaranteed for just over one point five million in the next two years, or like one point eight one point nine million. They're partially guaranteed. Up or down though on door to deal which I love to say, okay see. Started because he is Canadian. And I would love to play the homework card here as we approach July first, Canada today big thumbs up for dort getting. This I think okay, so he's getting them at quite the deal actually. Go undrafted if you don't know after one year at Arizona State. started his career in the G. League played well for the blue. Oklahoma City Jelly team got the call up, and then he was sort of like seen as a bit of a defensive spark plug off the bench I. When you think of a six-man seventh and eighth man coming in you think like Oh, go get us buckets, but he was sort of like put them in there, and put him on the better players, and he can do a good job of hanging with them, and then he earned a starting spot and. Started Twenty one of his twenty nine games. He's been in the in the big leagues, and they went sixteen five in those games, and he had health and impact against. Defensively. Still has to work on his three point shot and offensive game, but good for him guys making like eighty thousand dollars on a two way deal, and now he's you know he's a millionaire and well-deserved there and he's Canadian as I said so. Up For me. ANYBODY WANNA go thumbs down on Dork? I wonder if they made more money if he he hung out until free agency It sure feels like could that being said it's a steal for okay, see and he's. You when you watch a game with okay, see you notice Ludar. Even if he's not scoring, because he's doing so much, it's great for him to play around guys who? Handle the ball and score like Chris. Paul and Shea Gilders Alexander. He doesn't have to do that. He doesn't need to do that to make an impact and he's stolen Andre. Roberson is job feels like. Big Time and That's his, and it's a lot cheaper than Andre. Roberson was so yeah. CONGRATS BE BIG CONGRATS to him. Yeah a great deal for the thunder tiny little deal, but I mean it's life changing money for door, which is awesome, and this guy could not be more of a thunder player. He's a plus athlete, a great defender, and like you said skeets got to work on that shot that has been the definition of wings for the Oklahoma City Thunder, basically, as long as Sam Prestige has been there also guaranteed for next season one point five million. That's nice, but I was kind of like you to ask. What is up with Andre Roberson. Are we ever going? See Him again in the NBA? Good question. Good, it doesn't look good that he. Wasn't able to get back at all this season and missed. Last season two so. Yeah. That's a I'd be very surprised if we have any significant role in the. NBA, anymore just just can't same getting back out on the floor and and being out of state it. Also Loo Dort. Unbelievable name, but to me it feels like an old name so when I say it. I think that Lou Dort is like. Twenty six, twenty, seven, twenty eight. Okay hold, but an MBA terms like, but he's not. A really young guy in fact, anytime I do this now. In basketball reference guys like I go to guys page and you see that he was born. April nineteenth nineteen ninety nine. It's like. Oh my God, he's only twenty one years old. Home Darts gotta hopefully a long career ahead of him and again. Congrats to him. I saw I saw Janice Gupo re tweet, highlight reel of Vince Carter last night with some flame emojis. and to me. I'm guessing because he's not a basketball historian. As he said I think he was seeing a lot of those Toronto Raptors dunks for the first time because he was born in Nineteen, ninety, four US six seven. When when Vince restaurant down. And so he's like Whoa. This guy was awesome on on an St Television, as trae pointed her in the late nineties early two thousands, but Vince still a good even in that grainy footage. Next one here Paul George revealed on the knuckleheads podcast that he briefly considered staying with the Indiana Pacers in two thousand seventeen, but management screwing it all up quote. This is Paul. George I ain't GonNa say the names because I'm gonNA keep their business private I'm just say it like this. I had at the time the best power forward saying he wanted to come to Indian team up with me. End Quote the problem. PG said was that India was not willing to pay out to get that player and that the risk was too damn high just like the rent. But you know Paul George. Loves to at times live in the past and talking about his bazars day. So you ever doubt on the latest Paul George Pacer Story here task. I'm up. He's given us the NBA juice. These are our stories. The these are soap operas that we're looking forward to and I know. People want the details. Was He lying? Who was? It wasn't but I. Don't think he's making it up I. Don't think he's he's coming up with this. From thin air at I P probably didn't have it in writing from this power forward superstar that he was coming, but I think he had a verbal commitment, and that the Pacers didn't want to move on at that point from. Whatever the heck they were doing with Paul George Guy Paul George Kinda wanted to move on to. I mean maybe that pissed him off. and that's what led him to move on, but I I'm good with it because it's a bit of a soap opera and I think there's a little nugget of truth to it, and yes, who was the mystery best power for? It was Anthony Davis. I would think so right. Yeah, that seems to be the general consensus that it was Anthony Davis, and this was in two thousand seventeen, and as you will remember Anthony Davis wasn't actually traded during 2017, despite the fact that he was certainly out there as a trade candidate another two years later. There's no way that the pacers were going to get their team to get Anthony Davis even if there was some. Some sort of deal between these guys, but I don't know to me. You know following a few Indiana Pacers. Fans on twitter. It just makes it seem like this. That Paul George is the new Scottie Pippen. He's a great two way player very smooth, probably better suited as a number two, and if you don't like the answer, her gives you to a question one day. Just wait because there's another answer coming. Paul George has said that he tried to work his way to San Antonio before. He said that there was a deal in place for him to be going to Cleveland before. There's a lot of things that Paul George said about how he left the Pacers and Paul Georgia's Lee comes out looking pretty good and all those stories and Lee. Yeah it's weird that he's just going back into it I think it's like he's moved on his on his second team. Since Indiana and I think everyone else is just kinda moved on all right. He's asked about it on a podcast. But, that's like I. Mean it's in the past now, so move on. I mean it's one of those things I'm like. Okay it doesn't really matter man I. Don't think you're ever getting Anthony Davis so. So! Who Cares really? It was fun for a second trying to figure out maybe who it was, there was a lot of blake. Griffin talk and think lamarcus Aldridge is name was being thrown around, and that was fun. I don't know why Lou who is he talking about? Okay, so you're down. Yeah I'm Dan. I. Mean Paul George has a bit of a derrick rose to where he sort of sort of talks a little bit too much sometimes I think. Yeah I think so. I think so, but I mean I think he eat moved on and. He's in a good spot right now, so just be happy poll you're you're in La your chance to win. A championship ultimately got into a position. You want to be in on a team. That's a serious title contender. He must be a good partner for fishing trip. He's in Moscow ladder stories. No, yeah. Yeah, you're cast out there on the Boeing. Tell me about tell me about that time. You almost Anthony Davis on the Pacers. Let me tell you skis. Let me tell you. Another CAST ILYA I don't know I'm like miming fishing right now in my office, I feel. Noise. Was that your lure? Adding the lake es no. That was me casting out. Okay, so I guess it shouldn't have more. Sh? Dropping in the water I've been watching a lot of. Alone have you guys watched the show on Netflix exit. Jaydee. You might want to dip into this one. Have you heard about this? No called alone. Yeah, so apparently it's like a tickets up to seven seasons, so I don't know how the hell. Of it and I didn't think a lot of people had at least until the last little while, but season six is on Netflix. And it is, it's it is what skull it's called alone for a reason, they give ten people camera equipment, and they basically leave them to survive in well. This season is in like Arctic Canada. And it's pretty amazing. They drop them obviously in the fall. Right before it turns like super super cold, and the premise is last as long as you can, but they are given like a couple of supplies right like they get to pick what they want to bring. So they build their own shelter, they hunt for their own food It's amazing and they filled the whole thing right and when you don't when you're done like because you're starving or something's happened, you've injured yourself. Whatever reason you miss your family, you like. Call for pickup and you just like wave the white flag basically. Yeah and it's these people are like they're not picking Joe. SCHMO, they're not putting me out there. They are like. You. Got Survive These are survivalists at a picture of the cast of this season. Bad Ass it's amazing. This guy on seasons I. Don't want to give it away. I don't WanNa. Spoil it because I think. Some of you will watch. So I would suggest season six goes on Netflix, but I think all the other seasons are on the history channel. If you get that on demand anyway. yeah, fishing cool. I mentioned on this week's beach step in podcasts that I was listening to the Audio Book of Dr Kennedy's stamped from the beginning the definitive history of racist ideas in America highly recommended. And I quickly wondered. Whether listening to an audio book was the same as reading the text. You know if I listened to it. Can I say I read the book? And there was a little disagreement slipped in that podcast between the boys between you guys. And that's spilled over onto twitter on Thursday when our friend Amir Blumenfeld, he brought it up to his comedian Ben Schwartz. Amir by the way sub tweeted the hell out of me with that tweet and I caught I caught him red-handed. And he owned up to it, he he heard it on the podcast, but I wanna get your definitive takes. GUYS THUMBS UP, thumbs down on listening to an audio book. Counting as reading, throw that near quotes reading that book. Is it the same trae? What do you think at a started here? Listening to an audio book. The result is the same as reading an audio book. So when you say I listen to an audio book, you can also say you read it. As far as I'm concerned, the experience no doubt is different. Reading is way more active, right? You're looking at the words and the words are translating to work inside your brain. When you're listening, it's very passive. You can be doing other things when you're listening. But the words. They're still going into your brand. They're still rankling that thing with knowledge. That's kind of like is dancing to music the same as listening to music. Yeah, you're still getting the music in you. There's just a physical component to it. Skates. What did you say me? He said he said he heard it on the podcast. Yeah, he did. He didn't read it on the podcast. No he didn't read on the PODCAST. That's where I'm Dan on it because. You know whenever says Oh that podcast the that was great. Yeah couldn't put it down you listening to. Read David older had a podcast him. Laws with Nick, nurse and David. Aldridge turn that into an article. where I read a lot of things, nick nurse said on the PODCASTS. But you read his article and you listen to his podcast. They were they were not word for word identical as the difference. Yeah, the the thing is when you're reading something. You just absorb a whole lot more I think than when you're listening. Because as I said you cannot, you might be distracted. You might be doing housecleaning or something like that. Whereas if you're reading, you tend to be more focused. Focused on the article whatever it is, you're reading in your sort of trapped in that because you can't. Your eyes can't be diverted away, so your attention tends to stick to the Article v Minds, but the question is if I listen to an audio book of the same text did do i. then get to say yeah. I've read that book. No, because you didn't read it now, you listen definitely can. Because it's going in your brand and by the way. I've sat there reading a book quote, Unquote, reading a book and staring at the same word for both. twenty-five minutes right so you can just as easily daydream, and I've actually read full pages without like what the hell did. I just read I have no idea, but my eyes were moving across the page. So, what do you do then? I listen to an audio book. Kim and when I do I, say, I, read that book. Yes, I did read war impeach. Let's discuss it. I can still discuss it. Is it a bit of a white lie? Yes, maybe but the the information is going in, and there's certain books that I would never get through like I read all of stieg Larsson's books. That's the the girl with the Dragon Tattoo! I listened to the I started reading the paper I could not get past the names I I focus on a word or a name that I don't know the pronunciation and I just start i. just go off into never never land I I never finished books that way, so, but but listening to it. The pronunciation is perfect and I. Just Roll right through and. And I read blasted through those three books. See I'm not disputing that sometimes when you're reading you know your mind wanders, but you tend to go back and reread it because you're like. I wasn't paying attention that so I'm to reread it. It's not like you just skip over it. YOU LIKE! Oh, I need to read that because you ever heard rewinding mate. Interesting I got an interesting one for you. I know you're fan. Of course the office, the original UK version David Brenton. I at one point. I love the show, too. I actually bought the scripts for the show like season. One and season to the entire scripts are in these books now if I had never watched the show on television, but I read the scripts okay I read word for word what they say in this show. Could I say that I watched the office. Of course not because you're reading the scripts, but you can't see the characters and how they present their lines, and how they say they London, how they activate. Okay, let me ask you this. What if I put on the office I'm unit it, but I put on closed captioning. And I. And I? Read I read the words and I did. Watch it with my eyes which you want me to do. Now Watch the office. Really because it's not the full watching experience. You need to hear the characters voices in their accents and tones and their delivery. I mean that's how you need to watch it. Don't you can't just say well, it's. Interesting you say that because an audio book I actually get that experience getting mad at home, you can get some character voices and stuff like that. Depending on the book you're eating. But you still listening you still listening, you know you not reading I, mean it's. Just I like I. Say I just find? no-one says hey man. Did you read that podcast? You listen to it. Ten. What do you? What do you think I did? See You tweet. That sound like you were in agreement with Amir. That you that you know you disagree with JD and Trey and myself that no, if you listen to an audio book, that's not the same as reading that book. It's not the same. It is absolutely not the same you just don't. Like trae said about the the old brain whatever synopses are happening in their. Whatever wrinkling is happening there? It wrinkles differently. Other synopses are firing differently when the is are reading those words off the page. That being said. I'm starting to listen to audio books because I to J. D.. Island. My is just start wandering when I'm listening to a book that I'm reading what when I when I'm listening what I'm reading, and so I started to listen to audio books. The book that I mentioned our time is now by Stacey Abrams thought I would hate listening to it. But I think the quality also of of the production of these audiobooks fantastic right now, and they put a lot of work into the voice over so I am really enjoying it. But my brain's not wrinkling the same as if I was reading. It's just it's it's. It's a different experience. I am with Lee I'm not. You're not reading this podcast right now, are you? You're tuning out I watch I watch, but when I watch television and doubt that I watched the TV. Did I watch that show No because I didn't. Respond, cast analogy because there's no written script. Threat podcast there was then maybe okay, but there is it so you can't actually. Consume you can't consume this podcast in a different way. Outside law you transcribe audio. Zing transcribing it somewhere. It's awesome. It's offered. A book is offered in different mediums. It's offered as a physical book, a kindle version and the audio book. It's just three different ways of reading it. If somebody read it on kindle, you said Hey. Did you read Warren piece? Yeah, well I! Read the kindle well. You didn't read the book. Then you compare you need the tactile pages in front of you. Turning the pages and staff is just why why get bogged down with that. Is it reading a book? If you listen to the audio book while also having a hard copy of turning the page right with it, that is ultimate read that's. It yeah, for sure because like I. Just keep thinking tasks. You're reading. What's it called? Our time is now right Stacey Abrams. Okay five years from now we're around a campfire and somebody brings up the book and says. Has Anybody read that. I just want to know I. Guess you're saying you would say. I didn't read it. Listen to the Audio Book Right Right? You just wouldn't say I read it and I feel I. Would feel like I. Think it comes down to the way a person learns as well I'm a visual person, so I feel so different seeing something than than listening to it, but. I don't I? What some of them say that around the Campfire? The right part of my brain would twitch. Because I. that's how I ingested it audio. Wise, that's what that's the right part of my brain, but if I read it the left part of my brain, which I don't know what I'm saying, but. The point is a spider dog. Me a smart chef l.. Who by the way yeah, and by the way we were rather because we were just on a fishing trip. I Love I love reading books like traditionally, but who's got the time to sit down and read a book I have the time man. I gotTA, why when I'm walking that dog. I'm listening to books now right now. Jd! You don't have the time to read a book man. You'd be your skateboard now. Listening to books while I'm doing. Listen if you can read a book and Skateboard at the same time then. I take back everything else. Whatever you do is right. He's actually listening to a book telling them how to Skateboard. He just putting it into practice right there all right? That's a fun one. Let's hear from you guys on that one out there. I think people have a strong opinion about this is listening to the Audio Book Does it count the same as reading that book. That's really what the question is all right next one according to Woche the. New York Knicks have hired William Wesley, as an executive vice president slash senior basketball advisor, worldwide west, as he's known in basketball circles has been a consultant in the coaching division of C. A for thirteen years agency. He had a long, professional and personal relationship with new Knicks President Leon Rose Let's start with. Lee Few love the next year on the payroll. Are you up or down on the Knicks? Hiring World Wide West Down? They hired the wrong worldwide. They've gotta go with if they want to improve their brand. dropped. Wealth is very well known in the basketball twitter. Well I think he would be a bit of for the Knicks I mean it seems a little bit too close to Leon rose another good a good relationship and I think that's a little bit dangerous. If you're hiring friends to come on, and and his role is a little hard to define right now exactly what it is. But being close to Tom Izzo is great for Tibbs, so it sort of seems like that now would be is almost a done deal that the tip is going to the Knicks. If you hire the guy who knows quite well, so I'm not exactly sure what he's GonNa. Do for the Knicks. That's that's my my my question. I saw an exactly. What does that mean? What does that mean for the Knicks? Lake Worldwide West gets his name from World Wide Web. He knows everybody. Just Wab does on the Internet, but he knows the people that work inside the NBA. So, yeah I mean yeah. Okay! Good for the Knicks I guess if they think he can bring in someone who's going to be. Objective, I think that's the real quick thing here for the Knicks I need people who can come in there and not be swayed just by friends or influenced by friends they've got to have people actually make right good smart decisions that are going to help the team because the team's been a disaster on and off the court for years now. I don't know if this is an endorsement or not, but Larry Brown just told the Daily News that he thinks. William Wesley is the right guy he trusted him. He said quote I hired guys that West asked me to hiring college. I hit a home run with everybody he recommended. So yeah and I know steph Marbury disagreed with this hiring. He said the exact opposite. Didn't think highly I. Don't think of maybe rose and West being there, but yeah sorry tasks, Warriors, who is Larry, Larry, Brown hiring coaches I guess so I'm sure he's still in the college game or was at the time. Yeah, okay? I, just so he's peas in the coaching game. I I I'm with Lee that I thought they'd hire more of a guy who's had experience picking players and and more of an executive. Mba Front and he knows absolutely everybody is totally true, but Sodas Leon rose, and so I thought there'd be you know maybe a bit of divide. This is just too much of a family affair again with the Knicks it. You know it's it's. It just feels like the same thing over again. Hey, let's let's a little nap. Dismal tire my bud. They've known each other for forty years. He's also good friends with James Dolan. Scott Perry is still around like it just seems like the same old thing happening again so now the basketball decisions I think are going to like as far as player personnel. Going to hang on Leeann Rosa Lot wasn't agent shirt, but now he's conducting his first coaching. Search is first draft it's. I, just don't don't think. Hiring World West and a vacuum flying, but but it just. It's too much of a family affair. The only thing I like about it is that you can call them fresh west because that's how they used to call. That's what is his name was a long time ago and we just talk Lewd Dort. Let's go back to Canada Maestro fresh wes if he is if West pulls it out. And his great column of Maestro Maestro Fresh West. That's what I like about it, but otherwise. I'm kind of bill ambivalent until these guys start Poland, some great moves, but I I I. Don't have a lot of let your back court slash. What do you think of? This seems like a Knicks move to me. You know both Leon. Rosen worldwide are huge names who were probably at their peak a little bit ago right like probably around the turn of the decade maybe around the twenty ten something like that but. At least they are outside of the organization and are well respected and well connected in the league I think that can only help, but again we'll see once. They actually start doing anything if they're allowed to be. The guys who were doing stuff are still come from on high I'm on this just because I'm excited to see this. End The broker whatever you WANNA. Call them in worldwide wes. Guy That is just always seemed to move in the shadows right a little bit of sort of exciting to see him now put into the spotlight especially in New York City with the Knicks Franchise of Franchises, so I'm just excited to see how this unfolds, but I hear all your concerns as well. We got a lot more up down topics to throw some thumbs on, but first a quick word from sponsor. As, the weather gets warmer. There's nothing more important than chilling out. You gotTA. Keep your vibes right. That's why I'm here to talk to you today about Sunday scares. Sunday scares are specially formulated CD gummy Vitamins d three and be twelve that are super, consumable and easy to take on the go. Specially formulated CD products with vitamins can help in all sorts of ways. 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What product might be the best for you by going to Sunday scary dot, com and using code? No dunks keep it chill baby. Care next one sources say that the official NBA schedule will release later tonight. You're on Friday so we'll find out the seating games at least. But Magic CEO Alex Martins told Orange County officials on Wednesday. The Games will be played quote all day long inside three arenas at Disney when the season restarts. Keith Smith added that the first game is expected to start in the early afternoon with the subsequent games staggered after two hour cleaning periods. Up or down tasked with I up or down on the restart again, reportedly playing games all day long all day long. They. Better be. Yeah, I'm up. We're all home, of course they they better be played during the day I'm huge times I. Don't know how you can really be thumbs down. We're GONNA. Wait all day long to turn on Games at night. It listen. Just? Go back to the experience when you were reading World Cup soccer games during the day. The you're watching them, you're remember. When could turn on television during the day? TWA Games during the day doesn't get much better than that. Yeah, Weekday, sports rule and we'RE GONNA. Have a chance to what sorry read them. We're GONNA have a chance to read them on our television. And you know I'm excited for the PODCAST. Possibilities I mean, are we? We're going to have a little blocks games. It feels like maybe we. Break up our talks as well block talks yeah. Sort of. One into the other all day long, but you are right. Maybe there's. Maybe there's a late night no dunks on the table here. RAP SORT OF RE bubble. That's good. That's very good. Lee! What do you think about this Games all day? Yeah, as long as the Games. There's no ten o'clock tip off some definitely definitely off of this so hopefully there that we can wrap them up. We can do a little pod and I can get to bed on time, so yeah, definitely up for this. You say that now are Lira real outdoorsman man. You're not fishing, but you like being outdoors shooting your basketball with the boys right in your scooters like yeah, this is going to throw a kink in those plans. If you got a lot of games to watch. I mean yeah. One of the mob in school I guess for. For for the day when things start up again. A. To be determined who knows? I mean that's fine. It's like the playoffs that first couple of weekends of the NBA playoffs. You know you just have to manage. Tom Might be picked the one game that you WanNa Watch and maybe skip out on that. You don't WanNa. Watch catch lighter so It's already planning on skipping games after three and a half months off. You're going to be. Watching the sons versus the WHO like blind man I am. I'll be skipping out. On those games. Quality Games. I wouldn't keep your hopes up to about being no lake games I. Remember seeing a report that there in theory will be still late starts. Because of course you know fans of the teams on the West Coast wanting to. To watch their teams, but then again, maybe it wouldn't matter. If basically everybody's still at home anyway and you can put. Point in the day I. Don't know we'll. We'll see the schedule later tonight on Friday I guess those to our windows of cleaning. As you said skeets between Games, IT'S GONNA. It's GonNa. Delay the Games as well pushing back. Yeah, I guess they'll probably get down to. You, know quite a quite a science in terms of how quickly can maybe do it or efficiently? They can do it. But you're adding a you gotta make. It seem like super clean so even if you're done in forty five minutes, I think you just wait the other our. Wonder our like a little rag or kill kill another hour fifteen. Just wipe that again. Yeah, possibly our next one's a little interesting here, Draymond Green. He praised Lebron James on I. Take This Week Calling Braun quote, arguably the greatest player of all time, and he did it all while wearing a clutch sports, t shirt upper down tasks on dream on's goat comments four. Lebron there I'm up. Up I think draymond green is growing up during this quarantine. He's able to call a guy. He played against over and over and over in the finals ago. A guy he punched in the undercarriage Usually he's A. He's a guy who likes to verbally spar like he did about Charles Barkley when he claimed that he was basically as good player Charles Barkley that ain't true, but. That's usually his tact and I think I think not. Not, only growing up just sort of in terms of The way he looks at Bromma. I think the way he looks at the world. He's been doing a lot for NCWA players getting paid and he's He's actually working with us. Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut on that on making sure NC Double A. Players get paid Zach. Lowe road on ESPN and so I think not only Is he talking about basketball side of things with Lebron but I think he really appreciates the social awareness that Lebron has taken care of children putting them into Into College in his school there in Ohio everything he's doing now with more than a vote. This initiative that's been published about this media company that he's got behind about black producers black creators I think draymond understands that. Everything's a little bit bigger than basketball right now, so he appreciates Lebron's doing and and. And I think he's. He's respecting his game as well so. I'm just assuming that Draymond Green. All of a sudden grew up. Yeah, unfortunately for Draymond. He got headlined pretty hard here because you know the main. The main line coming out of this was that Lebron because his resumes flawless and everybody's like Excuse me. I remember watching Lebron have flawed moments during his NBA career, but then once you dig into it a little bit deeper. It's exactly like tasks is saying the encore production is incredible. It puts them at least in the category of a the NBA's greatest of all time, but the stuff is even more so with Draymond is talking about the school the donations he's made the demonstrations. He's been a part of fighting voter suppression everything. The task mentioned that stuff does give him an incredible case for being. The greatest of all time amongst players, especially off the court and I'll just add to that for the for the court stuff, mean draymond never played against Michael, and it's understandable why he would think Lebron is the best player of all time because he's going against him so many times in the finals they've had great battles, and the understands just how good he is, and how much he's carried, sometimes those bad teams, because of just how good Lebron is so certainly, the court stuff is is incredibly significant and so admirable for what Lebron's taking a lead in so many of those areas. And this Os no question why draymond thinks he's the goat there in on the on court stuff as well I mean. Players who never played against Michael Jordan i? Would I'm sure we'll have a bias towards the play that they thought was the best during their generation so. In that sense, it's totally understand why. Draymond thinks that and gives Lebron that sort of. That sort of vote. We got a few more here. That's silly once. This one very silly. I'm just GONNA straight up asking. Are you up or down on crocs. Those foam clog shoes. They're still thing I know. There's still a thing because I think trey. Kerby recently got a pair. I saw you at apparently trae am. I, am I right? That's right if you would asked me any year up until twenty twenty, if I'm up or down on crocs I'm going down right, but crocs the official shoe of the Corinthian unfortunately minor technically Meryl's. They look like crocs. That started to melt, but you need to have a water shoe for this summer. You need to have something you don't worry about it all that you can just throw on where anywhere I got my first pair of crocs. One of my buddies has been wearing them for years is like. You're going to be so happy man. You can wear those into the creek or church. So, you're liking them. I'm loving it. You Know I. WanNa class it up a little bit. I'll throw on a pair of socks you can see my tide is through a hole, but if I'm keeping who'll just let those dogs breathe and Yeah I. Know what you're thinking. You can see how tiny my foot is through the holes. But they're just NATO little big. They tell you the size down full size I only went out a half size, and yeah, it looks ridiculous. Can you remind me or yours like? I Dunno, like camouflage colors crazy. Yeah, 'cause. They're like an like an olive, a couple of different olive greens. I guess he right Holum, camouflage but. The only real problem I have with it as that I've got. This is not going to surprise. Anybody I have a tiny pinky toe like it's absurdly small. I feel like I'm missing. A knuckle from it and every once in a while. When I'm walking, it'll pop through one of the holes on the top. Kids sticking their head through a sunroof. Just ride around. Lee What do you think about crocs up or down of never owned a pair because they always looked to me like they are so plastic, either that would really rub your fate and give you blisters all the time so I'm just I'm like afraid to even try them but I think Trae I think trae Ken rock them for sure so I'm fine with the right person Rodman. I just don't think I'll join the CROCK craze. That's the thing. This is the problem with any of these fashion things we asked trays like one in the rare exceptions that can just wear all of this stuff and it for whatever reason works, but crooks are ugly as. Nine percent of people. So that's why I'm down in. Anger could trace it somehow. Pull them up, but nobody else really can. They're not a good look. It's not a flattering. The I saw a picture. You're working on your garden. You've got on a pair of. Socks throw on some cracks dog seen. Socks where macronix. That's free for you. put down in your next bar. No, these are just just the ultimate ultimate given up on life. You might as well throw a move on if you're wearing crocs in my opinion, so it's funny. You mentioned because I just said to Laura the other night. Man I really wish we still had. Giant nightgown with a pitcher dog. I give it up. You're right. This is the shoe of giving up. For me, the most effort I'm putting into getting dressed days as talking my shirt into my elastic waist pants. You think about you got some you wear them. Well No. I got my own version of crocs that I'm pretty pretty pumped about a lake trays. Buddy said you can wear them anywhere. I've. I've kind of needed to shoot like that I've been looking for a shoe like that. I'm a birkenstock man. But you don't WanNa get berkinstocks wet. But right but. They have a plastic birkenstock now. Oh, yeah, so so I bought multiple pairs not to Brag. Multiple pairs of Berkinstocks to where around the house in my backyard I'm watering whatever they can get wet so I'm happy with those. They're they're not as comfortable as A. Crock gotta be honest. But they're made of plastic so. They can get wet now. Everybody's happy. Katie what do you think about this way on this? Way Down on Crock sat for the main reason. My wife was trying to get me to get a pair of crocs forever. She wears cracks all over the damn place and she's like they're the most comfortable share. You can have Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah, and she finally got me a pair and they're not comfortable. They're not comfortable at all. They so they're ugly and uncomfortable. Charm. So he has. Look ridiculous and I feel on. But. You could feel uncomfortable anywhere you want to. Yeah I mean. I did cave on Berkinstocks, which I also find hideous, but I will say they're very comfortable I I'm I'm all in on Berkinstocks, not sure about the plastic version, but you're right. I can't really get them wet so. Now, but now tra- tasks. You're saying they're uncomfortable, so they don't uncomfortable, but it's. It's a support of shoe. You're not going into a pillow like a crock here you're getting. You're getting some arch support to getting a firmness, and you're getting those top straps you're not. YOU'RE NOT A. Walking on these pile of cushion I find it cushioning. I don't find crocs cushioning at all I, think Rachel, but yet fake cross. Note. She went to the Lenox Mall to the CROCK store. Official Grocery store. It's uncomfortable about them. I don't I just I. They didn't really fit like everybody. You know bottom of your feet is different for everybody. Know this. Sounds like you're looking for. A shoe sounds like he wants to. Hold in your foot in the upper. Yeah I guess I don't know. That's where my flip flops to the pool and berkinstocks everywhere else. Thumbs up or thumbs down on crocs, people tweet at us at no Deng. Sink all right a couple more You might as well hit us with the baseball music on this one. It's happening folks. Major League Baseball. It's going to have a twenty twenty season didn't look good there for a while, but the moby and their players association agreed on Tuesday to sixty game season after months of contentious negotiations, the shortened season includes multiple rule changes, which I won't list right. The second can get into if you want, but let's start with that short schedule. Task Your our baseball man here. The upper down on MLB plan just a sixty games season. I am down! It took way too long to come up with this mainly. For that reason, you think the NBA's plan is haphazard. These MLB was announced Wednesday that they came up with this plan. They have to report within a week and then they start three games after that That's a quick turnaround. The NHL announced may twenty six a month ago and then the players have reported to their home city since. And and then they play in late July. That's a long window NBA an ounce early. June they're starting after Major League baseball again, the end of July and the MLB will be traveling as well. It's not a bubble situation. How many cases do you think these players are going to have when they get to their home cities? How much of a Spring Training two point Oh are these guys going to get there? They basically have to play three weeks later and. Dies in the NBA are now being tested actually just news right now. The NBA reported three hundred players have been tested three hundred to exactly sixteen of tested positive so a five percent rate. There's a window here for players to get quote, unquote healthy, and obviously there's. Debate about how long these players are the long term effects I should say of the virus that being said. They're going to have a training camp at the very least if they go down to Orlando. So I'm not sure what this MLB situations GonNa look like it's GonNa look haphazard, and maybe you don't even have to warm up to be. Did Baseball player? Maybe you don't need real spring training to be good Maybe these guys will be. Come flying out of the box, but. I'm not I'm not that positive about it whatsoever specially, because it's not a bubble situation, not even close to a bubble situation. I am up. However you mentioned some of those rules. skeets I'm up on the extra innings plan. Yeah, let me let me take you through a few of them because they are fun. The extra innings rule each inning after the ninth inning will start with a runner on second base, and that runner will be the batter in the lineup immediately, preceding that innings leadoff hitter so league softball right there, yeah! pitchers can also use a wet rake to keep their fingers moist in lieu of licking their fingers. And thought about that and we're also going to have a designated hitter in the National League tasks. Oh my God. And there's something else to Oh. Like this new three batter minimum rule, it does remain intact so each relief pitcher must face at least three batters. Yeah, so those are some of the role I think there's a lot more to. the, though yeah. As pitcher thing was. Yeah. It is Kinda Gimmicky the I think they're taking it out for the playoffs when they get to the postseason, but. But. Yeah, let's say it's sixty sixty games. You gotta be happy about that. If you're a sort of a peripheral baseball fan, that's. At Short, it's that's. That's why I'm up on. I'm like sixty games. I can follow that no problem. Cut Out one hundred two games, and I'm right there. It's GonNa be crazy to see somebody. Lead the League with twenty home runs though it's going to be like playing nineteen twenty one. It's I also read like. If you went on like a seven game losing streak in a sixty game season, that would be the equivalent of a nineteen game losing streak. You know pretty historically bad losing streak so like you're right like. You cannot go on a Bali you. You can't have worse than like a three or four game. Losing streak is what I'm at here or your chances of probably making the postseason or gone, so maybe that will be exciting. I don't know I. Don't think I'll be watching all that much, but. Catch. The highlights somebody flirt with four hundred. What happens then? What would you count it? Man You told me you told me. What do you think? Yeah I don't know I have nothing to really contribute to this I don't know what it means. Those rule changes you talk about main. I don't understand how the designated hitter. League and not the other. Well. On the. So. What does that bring to the game? What does that add? What does that contribute The game has been lacking missing, and will this be something they do when they returned. If next year returns to normal. Will they maybe keep the D. H. in the in the NFL so? I have no real idea what to say about these one other than a hotel. Bob's do well to make the playoffs and win the Independent. Isn't that when you? Go. Blow your mind Lee we could. We could because of this extra innings rule that were just talking about. There could be a perfect game in which you lost. That think of that you could have a perfect game going then they the runner on second. There's a passed ball at moves the runner to third. Let's say then maybe there's another pass ball, but even like site bunt. Tasks that's crazy man. Maybe hope that happens I hope it happens so then we can have. This baseball is has got the craziest stats like no one goes Kiki, into stats and the baseball dudes. Like when someone has a no hitter and you're not allowed to talk to the to the pitcher. While is in that no hitter but I. mean the no hitter is like you can be caught out. Can't you like in a No hitter? Like if you hit it and it gets caught in the outfield that counts as a no hitter, doesn't it? Yes, that's an awesome. Know Basi-. Hit US. The guy hit the ball. Applies this foul tips and all that. Let's. Go to. The Houston Rockets into a good making the playoff. According to shop our next one here. The NBA has modified its dress code for the two thousand, nine hundred twenty restarting Orlando players are not required now to wear a sport coat on the bench, and can instead wear short or long sleeve Polos for team slash league business, also male and female coaches can wear short or long sleeve shirts on the sidelines. This is basically what I call. The Old Summer League look trail. Start with you upper down the new bubble dress code up on not having to wear a sport coat on the bench, but I mean we'll see how this plays out I hope the players embrace it, you know. We just watched the last dance not too long ago. Ago there was multiple scenes of Dennis Rodman showing up in Plaid Pajama Pants. Hopefully, we see stuff like that. Because this is honestly the least the NBA could do is say no dress code. These guys are risking disease and injury. They're going to be away from their family for three and a half months. It should be zero concern of anybody what they're wearing around like I. don't care if you know Javale. McGee shows up wearing a goofy hat to sit on the bench during a game. That's fine by me. I was surprised to see though that no mention of whether or not shorts are going to be allowed. It's GonNa. Be Hot down. They're going to be inside all the time. It's good question. I wonder if we're GONNA. See some crock slowly. WHAT YEAH YOU'RE! You're allowed to go to the pools, and you're allowed to be inside. You can wear them anywhere. Well. Well again vile, I definitely can see wearing crocs. I can see him being a big Crock, guy. Will coach Crock on the side with shorts I. Don't I don't think I don't think they can get this extreme by the way with. More like what shops just spelled out there, it's like basically you don't have to wear a coat and you gotta wear one of these polls again. It's summer. League yards is a good question though I highly doubt it'll be able to yeah, maybe I mean I think that's the thing that the NBA. At all right now what they're wearing, just get the game going man. That's all people want to see right now some basketball. So yeah, no one's going to be like I can't believe. Steve Kerr while he won't be there but I can't believe that so and so coach is wearing not wearing a jacket. That's unbelievable. Task Jimmy and up. Give me an up. Simple I may I got nothing to say. I'm likely about baseball. I got nothing. Nothing to say although I will say it's very hard to explain to somebody. Who didn't grow up in North America or. I understand the basics of the game. I'm not insulting. I'm just saying it's hard. It's hard to explain. It's hard to explain it to somebody it is, and I find it hard like a a growing up I traveled to Greece a lot with my family. Greece doesn't care about baseball unless it's the two thousand four. Olympics and they're forced to put a team on the field, but they don't agree about baseball and I had to explain it it's. Not Easy. Nobody got it. That's all I got to say I think it might be harder than cricket. YEA well. It's not that hard to explain to someone I don't think Lee. Well, it depends again. There's so many different. I mean the actual like laying of it on the field how you score runs type. The hottest part of cricket, those to say you can five days and have no result at the people. People can understand that, but getting baseball. You can have a no hitter, but you can walk a guy, can't you? Yes, yes, perfect gamely! You can't Murai. That's ever. Game is twenty seven twenty-seven out, right? That's why this is. Innings rule is a weird wrinkle on that. Because you're putting a guy on bass, who could score never having? A hit. Actually occur. Okay Baseball guys yeah, okay. If somebody gets a perfect game in a loss, we're doing podcast turnovers. Let's do a cricket podcast and a baseball PODCAST. Moscow fans who can understand the game after the podcast easier. Just all I, think it's calling people up. Just random people and trying to explain sports, the problem is. They have prior knowledge figured all right are vital here. We got to wrap this up here soon. Matt Fortuna at the athletic. He dropped a fun oral history yesterday on masterpiece time as a preseason, NBA player back in ninety nine. Across to preseason for two teams in one year, it was the hornets on the raptors masterpiece suited up with the goal of trying to make an MBA roster, and some of the guys interviewed in the peace, said especially considering his age at the time he was in his thirty S. Master wasn't that bad. So my question is. Have after reading the article and knowing what you know, maybe masterpiece are Yup renown him actually being a borderline NBA player back in the day. Down I he he never really that close. What was his averages alive? One Point in the game that actually Canada Antonio Davis was not feeling. He didn't really think that masterpiece deserve that shot. Just walk on and get a chance to plan the NBA, so they sent a few screens I tried to test him out a little bit, but you know what masterpiece wanted to be chosen on his basketball ability, and not because of how famous he was at the time, so I respect that I respect that he was like I just want to be a ball and he made me heat that three in the game and you like. He knocked Dan, but you could just tell immediately even from that of that standard just have quick a releases on a normal NBA player because masterpiece. And he gets into position shoots it and it just takes like a second and a half, which seems like a quicktime, but in the NBA just realized just how quickly plays true? Release the shot, so yeah, he was never really close. Of An athlete, yeah, like he actually was pretty well conditioned and yeah, maybe not the greatest basketball player ever but not. Hang with all the drills. I guess and stuff like that and the radio, which is pretty present. So good for trying added trying to be a legit player, but He never really got close to cracking NBA roster. Yeah, having read that I was more convinced though that masterpiece was a pretty good basketball player. Right because like you're saying skis like Brown and saying basically he could hang with US conditioning wise. He was a better than average shooter, but like people don't make it to the NBA. who was a little too slow and a little too short? My favorite detail though is that the guy never took a shower after again. No shower. No US. Yeah. I I was laughing out loud reading that too I was actually like Whoa. Masterpiece was oddly ahead of his time, because players aren't going to be able to shower at the arenas down in the bubble other. Game and go back to their hotel, Ma and ninety nine. Yeah, exactly. Right now. Would you think to ask you read the Article? I A huge up on the article. It was fun and it reminded definitely reminded me of reading about Michael Jordan becoming a baseball player. Because there is the the sort of the. I. Guess the baseline of skills like you know. He had the he had a buddy. He did some some dumb things like MJ was know in the outfield and would be running to grab a a ball rolling too many put both hands on it when he could just pick up with his glove hand, just like master P passed it in the post, and then went to go pick for the Guy Bobby Bobby phils. Apparently in the post had the ball and he came when picked forum. What are you doing, man? But yeah, but great conditioning any was working his butt off and this those two camps. especially you know even being a raptor fan back then. We're always sort of a mystery to me that he was, he was in training camp. It wasn't really well reported on back then I. Agree with that. Yeah. I thought the same thing to yeah. I just didn't know anything about it and in an I was in Toronto but Now we've got the definitive piece like that was the definitely by far the most quotes I've ever read about masterpiece and Yeah Watch Watch two minutes of his highlights and Tracy. McGrady was jumping up and down when he banged home a shot. And there's the the one is written in the article again. I, highly encourage you to go read it. or have somebody read it to you, and then it'd be like the same thing basically read it. Of. Masterpiece scrimmage wasn't in a preseason game. Because you rightly, he had really brutal stats in the actual games, but it was like a scrimmage game, and they still packed the house right. It was when he was on trying for Charlotte for the Hornets and he he hit Lenka. Threes in a row I guess and the place was going nuts and he was literally yelling like make them say on after three. An awesome visual. From his limits, yeah I also I was a bit of a shock to me to learn just how rich master was. Right I didn't know at times like he was like three hundred plus million dollars worth than I. I knew he was a huge star, but that was a little eye opening to like Dan. This is like making the Forbes top. One. Hundred listened stuff like that. Holy Crap. Good on crazy, even ahead of Michael Jordan for his fortune. Is You know what I guess? This would have been September two thousand or since September, Nineteen, ninety nine, making more money. From rap music the Michael Jordan was a year after he had been retired pretty crazy. Wow, wow, all right, let's call it. There was a fun up down Thira whether you guys are up or down on some of those topics. Let us know on twitter Hashtag. Pretty good week for us, I'd say we had the squad. Mascots podcast little NBA News Roundup Beach step film session talking about the Mr. Chips Kenny Anderson Documentary that we posted on Thursday, so check that out ended with this up down so fun week. Thank you so much to everybody that continues to subscribe and listen to the show and share the show. Really help it. Wouldn't mind if you consider leaving a five star review on Apple podcasts I haven't asked you guys to do that in a long time. So if you haven't already help your boys. Apple podcasts and leave that five-star reviews I. Really appreciate it helps always in terms of rankings. We got a lot of fun. PODCAST lined up for next week. Okay, we got A. Couple of interviews. We got a new who wants some trivia. and. Hopefully, have a fun little show plan for candidate as well on July first. Yeah, a little candidate theme. We can just the entire podcast keep saying. Home or I could have a special, Canadian themed pop and packs for next week to. Do. On. Could be the biggest can pop impacts history next week. I'll just leave that out. A couple of lines in the fire have it could end up with non could end up couple of. But week ahead of US thanks again for subscribing to show clipper rose. You heard here. I have a great time. Turn Up, love, you guys awesome. Thanks for joining us and remember Percy Miller Master, P and his ex wife Sonya Miller have seven kids together. Few their names that I absolutely loved Romeo. Romeo Romeo. Hersi. And mercy. Oh mercy. That's a good team. Ready Percy. Raise the weekend. Spent so. Four. Group,

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Podcast SpotlightWinging It With Vince Carter and Annie Finberg

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Podcast SpotlightWinging It With Vince Carter and Annie Finberg

"Hey Bill Simmons to run a special episode with some of our favorite segments from the last few episodes of winging it with Vince Carter any FIENBERG. This is a podcast. It's actually on its own feed. We think it's really good. We just thought we'd throw it on this ringer NBA feed because obviously loved the NBA. Listen to the ringer. Nba show without throat up over the weekend. Maybe they know about the Vince. Carter pod. Maybe you didn't realize that. He has the kind of guests that he has. But this first one that we're GONNA play. This is from an interview that he did this week with Markelle Fultz so here it is start your time with Orlando Right now. We've seen obviously a lot of growth out of you just in your short time with the magic but talk about when you found out you were getting traded and just your excitement to join possibly new organization. Or W when I found out I was getting traded. Actually Elianora no are gone. Te'o Esau I was attacking that Full full steam And it was right before trade deadline so I didn't really know what's going to happen but I wasn't really worried about it. You know. I said a prayer that morning. Does you know wishing for the best wherever happened. Just wanted to opportunity in In happening in Orlando and I was happy. You know soon as I found out I was thankful for every day and I fully done for me but you know the next step in my journey and I felt like it was a you know a clean slate and a new opportunity so as soon as I found out I got pulled out of my Rehab and Emiliana phone with John and Jeff and on air string decided. Not You know the first thing they said to me. Was You know? Take your time and as soon as I heard that I was like you know another click in my head you know and that put a smile on my face. You know because I didn't know what it was like. I never been traded before. I never knew he know how it happened. What goes on on and they were GonNa try to me. Play right away so I was going through my head as soon as I heard I got traded but when I said that you know it just put a smile face in. It made me work even harder that day. Rehab is probably my best area because I just decided for the journey into step so from that day forward know-how just like getting healthy and Couldn't wait to get to Orlando to meet them. I can imagine with that with hearing that that helps your transition now. It's like very little pressure now. I can concentrate on my body. I don't have to worry about all the other stuff while trying to heal if you would as well so I can imagine you stepping in there now is like okay. Basketball will be there. We've had this conversation for. Won't we'll talk about later but basketball. We'll be there fix you first and then everything and I can see confidence in your game now because of has actually in a again that was probably the biggest staying in the best thing that I heard some. I got on the phone. I was the first day and he said it wasn't just what the you know the front office from coach to you know my teammates to you know the training staff. Everybody was on the same page. Nobody learned to rush me. No everybody wanted me to you know. Make sure my body was right. I in For me that was like huge because one. I love the game so much that I might try to write some things to try to get back in just hearing that made me happy to sit back and relax and be like kill. Make sure you're doing everything you need to do before you go out there because you know everybody wants to see me do well and they want me to take my time. So homages made a deal a lot easier. So I'm assuming that you saying that during your time in Philly did you feel like you're constantly kind of even on your own time line but being rushed to get ready being rushed comeback being rushed to be the player that they wanted you to be definitely and I'll put a lot of it on Disney being a competitor Diam and beloved that Halford a game. You know Being drafted number one. You know there's a lot of expectation that comes with that but it wasn't more solar people expectation that they had meals ones that I set for myself you know. I had so many goals that I have for myself and my first year That you know I kinda just I wanted to be on the floor you know and I felt like I could impact the game in other ways. You know it's not always about shooting the ball stuff like that but it was a lot that went until you know I. It has to go with your opportunities that you have in the skill that you do while you're in your opportunity so I felt like the injury that I had it. Allow me to perform to the best. My billion situation now was and so on it was it was. It was tough for me because you know I was things that I wanted to do. But an situation now was in. I wasn't able to do it so I had to. You know sit back and realize that I gotta get myself right before I can. You know. Try To be successful in a situation in on. That's what I just had to do. I was thankful that you allow me the opportunity for us to have conversation and be an outlet for you amongst everyone else that you have and I remember one of the questions I asked you know if you remember it you know and I mentioned earlier. I said I said I asked you. What were you and you answered. It won't pick. I said get yourself together. Get your confidence together to show the world and yourself Y They believe in you as the number one pick and I remember you saying You know you know we had our conversation and I was kind of happy to Kinda see that you know whether you had doubt or not. At that moment it turned the light on is like you know what all right. Let me focus on me. I and I felt like that's the energy I got from you. So with that being said was there a point that you were really down and out and felt like maybe? I'm not who they think I am. Did you ever get to that point? I didn't get to that point of not thinking I was more so it was frustrating. Because I knew that something was going on me but again my pride and my competitor nature wanted me to stay on the floor and try to compete. You know through all of it and it just wasn't what was best for me. You know the best thing for me was get your body right and on my whole life. I've had injuries but I've always play talk at this point in time. You know as business and you gotTa make sure you're straight I and I'm I'm thankful for everything because the one thing I learned is no matter of your pinky. Your Big Toe. You know your knee Just communicating how you feel in your body is is Houston and that's the most important thing because at dinner day you know you got to invest in yourself in. That's the only thing that's GonNa keep you going on a court in Allard that early so again what you said it clicked in my head. You know I didn't really have a lot of people thinking about that. It helped me. You know just immediately start thinking about my body and taking care of my body a different way. So what did it mean to you to have a future hall of Famer at? What were you twenty year player at that point in the League to hear him like you know. Kinda remind you of who you are in. You know who you're going to be reading it was everything because at the time I didn't have you know everything going on the Internet and everybody talking how they were talking but I never saw. It helped me realize that. Know Your special to have the opportunity for God again. No blessed me to have you know a great great guy and on somebody who's played along in League. Come to me and talk to me. He didn't have to do that so It will just like a sign of meat. It just clock in you. Know he's saying for reason And I looked at that now reflected in workout. Yeah he's pretty good felt like in. I talked to some of the guys in the organization mark. Evidently I'm a very good friend. I was like you know if he view a cool would I just? We just wanted to chat and just get it out there on the table. Whatever you had to say you know. Sometimes it's like you have people around you that you always wanted to talk to. Sometimes this is cool when you feel comfortable you can get it out on the table to someone someone else. Does this listener go for and I was like. Hey I extend my hand in friendship. And a listless chat. Let's talking I'll be real with them but yet supportive and to give my opinions on on on some things like I say if I can just get their light bulb to kind of turn the corner. I'm all for like I said I didn't want anything from it but to see what we're seeing now like as athleticism his confidence his game. Back to where you like. Okay Yeah that's why. They drafted him number one with this potential. You know so. It's just great to see more of all right this second excerpt. We're going to listen to Vincent any talk to Kyle lowry about what it was actually like to win the Taito. I was particularly interested in this because I can't remember many players that completely altered their destiny over the course of twenty four hours like he did in that game seven start with championship. But you just one back here. Last year at the end of the season you guys had a very historic run to the championship obviously. Us were counted out quite a few times. Looked like you were maybe GONNA lose a couple of the different series and you won the championship so just talk about that a little bit and just how. It really felt at the end of the night to win. That championship are going through that process of the playoffs. That first round we lose game one. Oh here we go again which is fine and we put ourselves hold lasts like six hundred seven years. We always lose game ones and It was like Tam. Is it that again? But we literally win Phil Roman Nick. That was like one of his three times that whole season yell lettuce on talking about he was a he was go off. He was like Dj. Augustine looking like Alan Iverson nineties. He would often you and it was like all right all right. Let's figured up. We agree veterans right. We have we have that shows like I myself why. Why Danny Marketers? You know who's like I listen figured out right. That's more veterans than most teams have around the league in amid sater's just while we're on that subject having veterans people don't know the benefit of having veterans anymore and. I'm not saying that you know on our G. League. We have eight hundred leagues. I UNDERSTAND THEY WANNA give everybody opportunities but If you look at all the teams that have won it. You know The Warriors Warriors Cleveland the warriors. Look at the teens. That's you know. Rj was on a couple of Shaun Livingston iggy is. Is You know you got those guys that were bogus. You got those guys. That are on those teams. This not don't get rattled easy. Yeah and so throughout that process where you game one. But then after that game we know we we went forward a row kind of put our defense and we got serious and in no disrespect but I- Philadelphia series was like that was the battle when y'all had phillies like it was like rocky and Mr T. like just rumbling and rumbling and back and forth back and forth in you know they they wanNA game on cord and they won another one then we won on their home court and that was best at three and you know we get to go back to Philly. Abc's in a game six and you know going to game seven as your home. You answered you play for but a any type of something goes wrong is over and you know we happen. We were up Mr free-throw Jimmy rebound coast. We are out of position mega layup. Sarah's leg off man like in everyone knows what happens next. Gua- a really was crazy. He was literally caught the ball. He ran we when we bring night. If you look at if you ever see Iran night Burns Asia for him. They replayed the whole play But they do footsteps so he did all his footprints from start to finish. It ran all the way back in due to the corner and when he shot it it was like but like it was like your shot but he shot high. Like yours was going to the left. He wanted a right. You know he probably you rather left. He was going right. He was like eyes. Wanted to get the my spot when I talked to him about ages and it just was like everybody was slow motion and then when it hit the rim four times or three times. A really was from from there because I I think back as I talked to Doug Smith days ago but the play was it set up for him to catch the ball where he caught it. It was it was for him to catch a little bit more to the right. He had to clean kid right right right because you know in that situation. You Ain't trying to mark angle. Thought back like here in his chest so then he wanted to catch more than the middle floor where he has more space. And you can't get right and that's it was. Isis is so crazy because the play was drawn up for me the same way to catch the ball laptop. Tara Hill denies it. There which makes me cut tomatoes imported. Yeah exactly it's crazy so I can't remember who was on market the So mark seven feet who all know yours the guard. Yeah so maybe yes so. I'm assuming it was a guard. And we had a seven footer. Throwing the ball and so it's a little bit different right mark. Does it in. And he goes and he just ran around the curly neal in Jonathan Some Space Eden. He just when he told me that you wanted to shoot as high as possible. And when I tell you it Belsen that rim and I'm standing up and I happen to be on the Mir him on the side seam and hitting rim leg. Oh Oh oh and I just ran and grabbed the ball and I just ran straight like it was. It was a magical moment like it was like. This might be for us to do so. Then we go to Milwaukee and then we lose game one. I'm coming off a a emotional high like that. We had the I don't care if you're young or vets. That was unreal. And it's I know it's like okay guys done today on the set some saying that's tough do and you know go through. The playoff right is literally are dumb. Philly though the book away here go back to Milwaukee all right. You got one day to prepare. Today's prepare and we we had to gain when we were playing. Well we know we had the game and they brook Lopez got hot bird crazy in making threes and Nissen Nat and all types of stuff right and so we lost game one. Everybody's though Oh wasted you know my good game. They wasted all. He's not GonNa have a gallon Honestly then we lose game. They came out in like steam rollers. If you watch Milwaukee now even now to this day they are the best I quarterbacks what team NBA. He is not even close. There is probably their product plus ten fifteen in the first quarter with numbers. But they're just that good first quarter and then at home and after we laws game too. It was funny. 'cause I'll know people Conoco why but if you can get while you're show it'd be it'd be great but he just really that guy like a reporter was like so what are you over there. So nobody saw. But I'm going to run this next thing we're GONNA play. You is after Kobe. Bryant tragically passed away. Vince in any reminisced remembered. Did the whole thing about Kobe. Who Vince he joined the week. I think two years after Koby joined the league and they played against each other. A bunch of times are the same orbits. Here's what they said about that outside of the retirement stuff. Is there anything that Kobe taught you both on and off the court that you continue to take with you the me he always talks about his Mama Mentality? And just you know. I think that's one thing that I have appreciation. Like he was like stone. Cold killer in In his career at during his career and talking to our owner Tony Wrestling. He's like Kobe was pretty much the same way in the business world as well so for me. It's just trying to get going to get it in and I didn't either. You know especially talking until high cow happy but like he's just dessus the mentality he has and if it worked in for twenty years on the basketball court why not keep that same approach so That's one thing that I have an appreciation for is just kind of just having the mentality being having a go getter mentality and how I appreciate that. I appreciate with him doing that in his always my was going to be my approach like. I'm approaching life after basketball now like I did as a youngster trying to become a professional basketball player full force. You know just go get it. Don't accept anything but what you're trying to accomplish in. He's definitely talked about that. You know every video you talking about his. You see now is about that. I have a great appreciation for greater appreciation for it and going to stick through it a but also have you seen the video. That's going on twitter where yeah so our schools to be to. You can tell the story after I kinda intro. But Kobe's high school coach told him that you don't think this is true that you once played through a game with a broken arm and it got him all fired up to the game with a broken. It wouldn't stay championship I it was that year. So tell us what actually happened there. No I played in in Myrtle Beach Beach Ball classic. I was on a fast break in this little kid. Little white runs me down like I'm going to duck it by myself as a jump up. He runs eclipse the back of my leg in a flip over flip backwards with sideways and I kinda landed on my right right in and I'm not going to get continued with the bones except when you're there broke that yeah and it was. It was like back here somewhere. Bike moved up my arm and I was like. Oh man like you know. You don't know in plan so I played live in the rest of the game. It was painful and the funny thing about that story so I played. I played that game. I might have played one more game to. They're like hey no let you do this. You know because of all these college opportunities we want to heal correctly boba. My job is going to play football that year as well. The quarterback so at that time why. That's the doctor. Because I kept playing. Anyway he's like you're going to have to choose. You can't play both like all right. I'll choose a sport does basketball. But the funny thing about that night after the game We won the game. We're in our hotel room my teammates or whatever and sitting on all of a sudden you hear like a knock at the door and it was kind of one of those. Hesitate with like okay. They're not they're whatever. I opened the door there. It was the kid who ran up under me at the door. So there's all of my my team if they would piss and they wanted to be all of them and Our Center at the time Desmond. who still my friend. Today he was just a couple of games Recently who is like like you know as I'm looking through? I think that's the kid that you know. Whatever so as the door opens you see him but in the background with the other teammates for like backup just in case we liked. You just want to say you know. I hope you healing. I wasn't trying to do anything you know. Harm you and nothing much outside. It was like cool. Whatever door closes and we kind of had a conversation about it funny. You know whatever he showed up but I. I mean if that happens to me and I'm going to someone else's hotel I'm not going by myself either. Just in case these things jump on top of what I'm saying. So it's a cool story and then I took my visit the Carolina right after that does that was in South Carolina. So I was just GonNa take my one of my I think my unofficial visit is unofficial visit there. So I'm in there with a big old cast. Nima high school coach and so then Kobe. High school coach told Kobe and the rest of their team about the story and maybe lied about friends. Just add a little to to motivate him to win this game. Get so so. Hey whatever works. Yeah you've you've had your you as much as he has on you. You've had your hand on his crazy. Think about this like he didn't look that up on social media right because there was no such thing you know how. How did you hear hear that story? And they're in Pennsylvania that's in place in South Carolina. I'm in Florida. So it's like it just crazy. How that story got out We played against a bunch of teams from different places. Jemaine neal was when I was in that tournament to Thomas was in that tournament. There's a couple of other guys who You know we know who who became pros. was in that tournament so somehow that story got to them school so this was before you guys played together or after that would have been. It would have been that summer junior year. Yeah so he's like. Oh you're the guy with a broken wrist so tell us about your a kind of what? Kobe was like back in his teenage years. Leading up to it. I ended up played team Florida a lot in at the time the best players in Florida were not playing a you because in that time football was dominant in the state of Florida has a football state so typically on High School Basketball Team Florida. You had for guys probably playing football and they would come over late so I guess that was Kinda the case or whatever and so I I play the few and just was like all right. I WANNA play in win like we were mind. You T MAC on a few of those teams on the younger team didn't know it. At the time we were cousins on those teams those younger team. I go to five star. Camp A COUPLE TIMES TIM. Thomas and we became very good friends. He and the coach Tim Salmon and Hit it off and he's like well. Hey if you if you're not playing on your team we love to have you. Tim was like Hey. Come play with. Stay in house you stay. We got place for you to stay so I play in a couple of tournaments. Whatever next thing you know like well if you've they called me. They called me time. Florida state from Florida in a sign to win I got back became VI bits. Everybody had a nickname point. They were like well. Hey if you're available come on back. I started playing a couple of tournaments. And then we started going to the bigger tournaments. I want to say it was the first big tournament. We played the first game without Co. I'm not mistaken in a he comes the second game and or maybe he didn't play much the first game and I think his dad was like. Hey come on man this. This is my kid he can play in whatever so we incorporated the Point Guard and he comes in. Lanky and soon he start. He's coming half court shooting from half court and he was shooting Air Ball. He comes next time. He's shooting he hit the rim. He'd make him like he would make a few of them. Were like roses one who six ten super athletic you know. I was death. Let it go. Whatever and Kobe was athletic and was his running around doing Shooting like we have. We will be in people by fifty sixty seventy points. So it's you know what I mean. Taking a couple of threes. They have one that bad. I felt you're dripping. Now we'd get the rebound and get a blackout. He'd get a steal and just have course and he'd make a few but they weren't like showboating. He was confident enough to where he felt like he can knock though shot down and our team was so gifted Tim. Thomas was six ten six eleven. Who could play the point? Guard played some point with team so everybody was capable of just ball handling and everybody get their own shot and break guys down and nobody wanted to Gar- rip off of screens if you ask anybody in the NBA the garbage. They hated guarded him. We're so talented. And that's just the big big names. We also have a couple of guys who actually played. Acc JOHN. Donnell hand was a point guard at Virginia Right my time. Maybe my last year so he he was very capable. He's very good. We had some other guys that were local. Who are just stirs. I mean New York New Jersey Basketball's already so we were very talented. I mean we played against he. We're beating teams ahead. Like Elton Brand was on a few of those teams They're all young's we just it? Was We beat people? Yeah we'll be hurry. It was out of control early. This last piece. We're GONNA play from winging it is Vincent any talk to Lamar. Odom about all kinds of stuff. Here's one piece from that Cuban. Em reasonably jealous. I mean but I didn't know if it was the cameras 'cause I was still shooting reality show and this was the first my first time dealing with owner. That's doing interviews before the game so I didn't really understand you know. His approach would dealing with me but he he knew that the camp was gonna be there and I was asked of course to have the cameras in the locker room. He had to say he had to prove that. I mean I think we probably could have better. I just wish you I wish I was more understanding. I understand that. He put his product out. He paid me. Well that was hollow just to was it just you that he had this relationship with or is it. Is he kind of just like I don't know him? No Mark Cuban. He's he said well before you answer he. He's saying he wasn't used to the type of owners owner owner that he is so what? I'm saying that him gauge. I mean I could rather I would probably rather him do it. Conservatively do this year. You know what I mean to be like okay. You win the yellow to play better but not on live stage like when you play Cuban in nursing meow on with first row on. I'm on live stage show. It was just it was. It was hard for me just to like you said period. Yeah just humble myself down to that degree with my own is at the time. I felt like he wasn't funny but of course he is for me but he didn't make it and if I remember he didn't really like pull me to the sign just saying don't worry about me who I am. If he gave me one of those who may be. It'd been easier. You know what I mean. Okay okay got now got just not just known that you into your you know your team when in losing in the way I'm playing. I'm not helping them win. Games and of course in sports. That's not one guy you want to make the enemy right so very powerful young man and I just wish I could have just adapted a little bit I wished in New York City. Streaky couldn't just came out and just wiped it off by and there was a very vulnerable time in my life. Do you think he was going with the tough love aspect like maybe trying to let a fire under you or something. I'm GONNA say cute. That's like mark. Mark is all in for his team. And it's whether it's at a player to motivate like sometimes. He's like calm in and he'd be like well why he like he could do it. I feel him. I'm well and if you don't know him you're not used to that. That can get you like first year by dealing with that you'd like rose was crazy that I play for Pat Riley. Okay and so when I signed with the heat I thought my name was mother fucker. You know what I'm saying like when calling me like it was no because he let me know where he was coming from. From the day I met up the data. I signed my name on a piece of paper. He let me know how tough it was gonna be to play on a team and to To be led by him. I don't know I you know 'cause Donnie Nelson and Mark Cuban comeback as actually back and soda go from that to play him back right away it was. It was tough but I just wish I would have handled it a little bit different. You talked about an incident that you and mark had on the bench in your book. There's a quote you said. I can say beyond a shadow of a doubt that Vince. Carter saved me from catching a charge anyway. The Locker Room Locker Room. Yeah we were playing. We will plan and Grizzlies Ban. It was another Bad started a game for me too rare me up. He nudged me but he did it with his foot. So we kind of like just comment. Let's go let's go and my gin and I was just like my job sitting right next sitting right there and just let me just so much went through my head like I'm a young black man. Just I mean I you know I'd rather you just I don't know I just think he could have handled that a little differently. I respect him and he's a great business man. I just think that was the wrong move. And I'll probably was like two seconds off his ass they probably would have been like a. Latrell sprewell moment like my career probably would have been like no. Nobody would have probably wouldn't want it to deal with me. After when I was thinking about doing to him. What did you see events and go down so I think it was probably built up from how he was treated me something Hand jk we heated the dirt. Probably not in the thing about it. What caught him off guard. I I remember vividly as like when the happen. You know sometimes when you like. I can't believe it happened. So let me just see face for confirmation is like my face was late just to close the loop on the story. He nudges he with his foot in your leg. You see Lamar react and maybe about to do something on. What do you do? Vents was just kind of sitting there. You know whatever in you know. He said what he had to say. Back like basically. Have you lost your mind? Are you serious? Don't put your feet on like how it is. An you know they're going back and forth saying their displeasure and then all of a sudden. He went from six one six like he stood up. Just thinking about like this Vince. If you will plan let's say what Tim Thomas Knight. Who's a big do strong do and he was having a bad game. And is your friend. And you're having a bad game like Vince call and kicked you out all right. Not that I remember that you'll come on like push my show it. I just thought it was a radical but I forgave him and I hope he forgive me for sharing that story. But you know sometimes. I don't want to offer her anything that he's built or hurt. Any relationship with any of the players has now for them to look at him different. I might add to this. I don't know if you remember. You know right after this so you know whatever is always done. It came out the next day that he L. O. N. dirt got into a fight at halftime. So that's what kind of smooth it out later. On because like we fullback ha ha ha but it was done. What was done is done. But then people started the whispers tonight in dirt. Got into like I. You know we can laugh about it and it was easier to move on. It helped everything instead of it coming out as to them. Obviously GonNA come here and try to pick the two together so I think it ended in the day. It worked out but people not knowing what was up. Vince basically saved mark. Cuban forgive fucked up that day I mean if you WanNa just keep it. All Joe L. O. Man Larry Murphy. Not that one nine Not Him whether you like this. You know any big brother would do. Y- what backtrack really quick. We'll go back to your time with Lakers. I'm sure those were the glory years for you obviously to championships humble into those times with the Lakers. They were humbled myself. You know to win a championship. What about that first time like when you go into the playoffs but youth? I one two thousand nine. So you're in the finals and you know you got that squad. Y'All playing lights out. Yeah I'm sure I already know your film like there's nobody that can beat. You're not at that point. I knew nobody was going to beat us because this is why I like to see I think the way how it in his own professional journey has come a long way and I really means because remember the before the first game he was like joking. Around where Andrew Bynum? He probably don't remember it but you know. I can remember and at this time. I'm thinking probably going to be like meaning get on my way. I'm Dunkin on you. I'm blocking shots. I need to get out of here. And he was joking around with Andrew Bynum and so when I seen I was like no. We got the Mambo on team. They have downstream chance so when I see him now like so focused willing to do anything to win Basketball Games. Come off the bench block shots. Rebel NACCHIO DUNCAN OFF. The rebound. You gotta give me the ball. I gimme the scraps a my okay. I think he gets it and I if he keeps playing like that. I think he's probably one of the reasons why I favor the Lakers to win a championship. Because they got everything the way lebrons plan right now jet. Ad Plant Texas you got three rim protector. So you have to beat them from the outside really doesn't happen a lot on the Golden State Warriors the old Golden State Warriors. How do you compare that Laker team? The first year that you want either at this year's Lakers team or other kinds of super teams in the past on. No we had a special team. I mean especially play empower. The triangle. Offense is really intricate. It's not easy to get right and I remember the first game that I played with Powell. The sole iphone. Lang play with them. Like I've been playing with him because he's one of the only players that you could put in an oppose give it to him and then he turned into the point. God he see everything from Nepal so really is perfect. He was perfect fit for the China office because we just started off dumping it to him and he just hitting all the cuts and then got you so of balance. Because he's hitting here hitting cut it is going to jump up for failure and then left right fade away. I knew power so royal because I can remember him always playing against Kevin Garnett and then going like neck and neck retirement and Kevin. Garnett is one of the players. I've always been impressed with the most in NBA. His for his His his engine and his knowledge of the game is incredible his commitment to defense and his commitment to know shutting his man down in going to. I think it was the first year two thousand eight February. Two Thousand Eight was his first game as a Laker. So we won the championship in two thousand nine to designate. So that's the first year that's the first year right now. Has the first two thousand finals against the Boston Celtics? So he played in that again because we got the same result with him in that short period of time he put us over the the and this was before all. Em the super teams were on put together at that time. Would me pal and I think at that time we lost the Boston? I think me Palo in Kobe would like to go to. And then we added Andrew with POW down low and Kinda like just made us bigger and stronger download. Four did not just Kinda like put us over the Hump of all your years in the NBA. Were the Laker years where those some of the best memories. You have one more but when I got when I was drafted by the clippers had a wild team back then. I remembered at that point Margaritas. When are you know just was able to roll the ball out and play town Nebi? I think because of the way I played and how unconventional it was for a guy my size to be held. The ball like a point guard at the time. And you know to be six nine sixteen and it had too many of them. Yes it was used to it outside. Magic may land but I kind of came to my new playground style of play at that size. I don't think is probably a big myself but I really think is at. That never really went too many guys who like Tim. Thomas had to eat in us. It didn't get to use it like did you know what I'm saying? I I played the point guard position and started at point guard. Even when I was with Darius miles equipment. Richardson I just imagine like that's crazy. Dude it was some games I started going. I think matter of fact I think the game will you had that started the point guard that game on a dunk going only candidate game too. I mean you know what I mean. I don't I don't really think people were like really used to seeing a basketball player Way So he was like what Ben Simmons is doing now before they'd been shooting for like like shooting from deep. Yeah as I was blessed if I were to put the effort to being good or being Grayton not letting disease of addiction getting my way I as my mind is not probably fell short. I would say fallen short. Not Making a hall of fame is probably fallen short for me for how talented. I was really just lucky enough to be here. Even though the day that I fell into a coma. I didn't do drugs at night so I heard you talk about that in an interview that you didn't do drugs the night that you into having. How do your doctor's things that happen? I don't know if they were slipped it to me or statistic intravenously but I swear to God I didn't do drugs night so you can imagine for me extra confusing not knowing how you got. There was hurtful thinking to myself. Why would this man doing that to me? When I woke up in world talk so you know a lot of players when I seen. Vince is love. I mean 'cause they they know where my heart is that they know the type of dude. I'm that I am so when do show me love. I know where it's coming from his genuine. But I mean I. I didn't do drugs that night so I could have. I could be better binding and saved. No wind have have happened to me when I mean every loss is not a loss you can take the L as a lesson Melissa. Today it was like don't go. Don't hang out in brothels anyway surround yourself with good people out all the time. I guess. That's what I'm trying to now. All right thanks so much for listening. Remember you can listen to wing. It was Vince. Carter and Andy Finn Berg on spotify on Apple. Wherever you get your podcast. Check that out. Thanks for listening to this little sneak preview and enjoy the ringer. Nba show goes up third.

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The Vince Carter Episode: What's New With the XFL and More!

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The Vince Carter Episode: What's New With the XFL and More!

"A manager boy, Shandra from the ID K. podcast. Let me tell you something. If, you're hearing this from spotify apple music or any other podcast forum. It's because of this awesome APP called anchor. If you haven't heard of anchor is the easiest way to make a podcast. Okay, he's free. These awesome creation tools that allow me to record in my podcast on my phone on my computer wherever I met an anchor allows me to shoot you. You my podcasts, so that you're hearing it everywhere. They take care of the RSS Things for me so I. Don't have to go through all of that. They also I hope you get sponsorships. If this air right now is sponsored by them, and you don't even have to have a listening ship just to get a sponsor is everything you need in podcast. In one place download the free anchor at or go to anchor dot, f. m. that's anchored dot f. m. to get started. All Right? Welcome back to the. K. Guys back from the birthday. We can slash week celebration because a Monday birthday is June twenty second is in case. You missed it, but I did appreciate everybody they did. Send me some of. Happy Birthday, wishes. You guys apprising really appreciate it. I have pretty chill birthday. With in many things, try to keep it pretty. Lewke and I enjoyed the most part had a nice little birthday dinner. Just chilling out for like I, said you know we still. Going around which reminds me, guys. Definitely your mind yourself corona is stillborn around trying to keep. You got the safest possible show that you're washing your hands. If you have a face mask and you have to go of course bayshore that using hand face mask and try to limit the amount of people that you have to interact with as much as possible. With all of that being said because. He had a pre interesting episode going on. I I of course I'm pretty sure you guys already heard. Vince Carter has officially retired after twenty two years in MBA. When I was a child, Carter was still playing on Toronto Raptors. He was playing with Tracy. McGrady so. Those were by initial moments with. Vince Carter in. He has been occurred of my Mba light ever since I just wanted to wish Vince Carter a very happy retirement. He is such alleged such awesome person I don't personally but interviews and stuff like that just comes across as very genuine an honest person so just going to dedicate this episode to him. Nothing too crazy You know just. Say again. You know happy retirement. I hope you really did takes the time to enjoy on. There are so many things that are going on now. Things are starting to pick up as we're rounding out the end of this one of worst coming into July. July means. July nine means the beginning of the NBA season. Now it also means we're technically gonNA beginning closer to the NFL season, but that's looking less and less more likely. We're going to get into that in a second, but. Hit the biggest news story for us. There is a too many news. Things go, but there is. The news is starting to pick up just a little bit so for the biggest thing coming back to the xfl lawsuit. It's been a couple of episodes. It's been quite a while since I've covered. but there is a little bit of an update that I can't give you is. So, we had, we went from just several buyers being potentially interested in purchasing the xfl to over thirty buyers that are going to be at the oxygen. I'm sorry auction. On August thirtieth including of course Fox and the Big Disney era attainment. So. That means that we're going to be having some serious. Serious competitors can't turn the XFL into something I believe will it really could be again? The potential of it really shine through with this laceration of it. Doesn't fortunately the things with the pandemic and some of the practices have been cannon is just didn't allow. It took fully be realized, but I believe a lot of people. Off saw the potential. This ebina potential moneymaker. Personally I'm always saying yeah like this integration. was agree success especially with the media team, I do feel bad though for a lot of people that were working for the excess. Oh the suddenly head to find a job. A lot of them are still I'm jobless, and your heart does go out to them. Hopefully when this thing is purchase. Maybe they'll potentially look into going back into the XFO when I heard, it was a pretty great workplace environment. Pretty good workplace atmosphere so. We don't know. Hopefully they'll be able to return, but we do know for effect that someone at the end of the day will end up with the XFL now who will it be? It could be anybody on the with Disney. Entering in the arena assumes I'd probably say is most likely GonNa be Disney just because their pockets in the entertainment industry are just larger than anybody else. In comparison, it's GonNa. Be something that Disney just not looking to get into that. But with 'cause they own the ESPN in with ESPN, losing money and stuff like that they're of course looking for new avenues of consuming entertainment industry. But that's not the big story. The big story is right now. In the xfl lawsuit between Oliver, look and bins McKinnon. We're currently at a little bit of a standstill, so they're trying to figure out whether or not. The exit fills parent company. The entertainment should be added to the case now. This is a little weird right because you're like. Why weren't they added in the first? Well the nature of the lawsuit. Filed against Vince Cannon only included. Vince himself. which is a little weird right? Because he was hired by Elf Entertainment, even though he had a more personal relationship with Vince, so depending on the lease of the contract is what they're saying They're not quite sure whether or not they're going to add to the lawsuit. If Alpha Entertainment Editor Lawsuit Ridge is hoping. It will help pushed lawsuit more towards Vinci's side allegedly so that way if our entertainment was the official people who created our contract, they can then look at the Alphen. Attainment own contract and say hey. Look breach the contract with this this and that he was fired for reason therefore, he can get rid of this lawsuit. The loss of can be dismissed. Any doesn't owning anybody anything. How ever if it was with Vince it's GonNa be a little bit more trickier. Because they didn't have like a specific contract with events. He had a specific contract off air taming, so it'll muddy the waters a little bit if they don't add. Entertainment in on this lawsuit Personally speaking. I would say it would make more sense. For alphabet! However. We don't know all the INS and outs so. Like for instance, I'll relook. Side is trying to say that adding Alpha entertainment is unnecessary because the agreement was solely with Vince, it was not with the xfl owner. So we shall see. Again in my mindset does looking at it from both standpoints in China keep an unbiased opinion about things. It's all about cool. He signed the contract. If this, suppose the contract between the two individual parties of Oliver, luck invincible came. Out. Does not have the added to this lawsuit. How ever? If the contract between. all reluctant became was between Oliver Look. Outfit, entertainment! Heading for the head bins. McCain, of course, Alpha, entertainment is going have to be added to this loss. So, we had a little bit of a legal Beagle episode. Going on, guys. We're GONNA see what happens with that. So of course we're going to be paying attention. Keeping you guys updated on things that are happening so with the NBA? We're having a little bit of. People are starting to finalise contract since the. Also people are fishing, announcing whether or not they are blowing to be involved in the NBA. Restart or not. So so far there are at least four players are not going to be involved. right now I know it's were Reza. Avery Bradley demarcus cousins and We'll of course you have Kyrie Irving? He said he's going to be sitting out the season. Katie says he's going to be sitting out. The season as will so that's five people More people probably will start coming around probably gonNA guesstimate in say the next two to three weeks. Just the closer we get, people are just gonNA. Come on on one Senate any other I'm pretty sure there's probably gonna be like a deadline or something like that so Look forward to more people announcing their not they're fishery going to be on one side of that fence for the. Most people who are saying that they're not going to participating are either citing personal reasons like they have been family member would be more susceptible to be more aggressive. Symptoms of cove in nineteen, so they just don't Wanna put their family in that type of risks, or in the case of like demarcus cousins. And Kyrie Irving they have these pretty substantial injuries that are just not allow them to. They just WANNA take the time to get a fool. He'll. If you guys remember course Harry Irving end markets cousins. We're going to be sitting out the rest of the season anyway, so they probably decided. It's with in their own best interest Just to sit out the rest of the season as they had already committed to doing. Now there is some talk that Jr Smith is potentially going to be replacing a believed demarcus cousins. Or Avery Bradley, one of the. If that does happen. I could see this being potentially something interesting I'm Jay already hasn't played in the more larger Murga. Teams in quite some time I'd leave. He's still with the cavaliers, so we are going to be able to see if that happens. Does Jr have a more larger market by building, or was he just more of a one time shot guy when he was with Lebron's cavaliers. I don't know we will see. Of course we will be paying attention to that on top of everybody announcing whether or not they are part of. The restart. We also have some people who are testing positive for the Corona namely a Malcolm broaden be Nikola Yokich has tested positive for the corona virus. Guys, so this is a pretty big news. These guys are going to be sitting out on the remainder. I don't think they're going to be so now. The remainder of the season but I know right now. Nikolay Yokich is not in the country. He's in quarantine for the next two weeks. Malcolm Brogdon is also in quarantine for the next week, so we're going to be saying what's happening with Dad. Will that affect their ability to play? More people become a little bit more sensitive in start saying you know what I don't feel as comfortable playing that I see all of these people that have the. Virus? Because, of course, you guys can remember. These guys. They did not stay within the country or. They decided to go out of the country for like a vacation or something like that so. Definitely expect more people to come back positive, and I think that if they really do want to do a restart, they're going to have to start testing within the next week or two. So that way they can get that two week. Quarantine over get everybody medicated in on their way a perfectly healthy so that way everybody that wants to be part of it can be. Be a part of versus waiting open to the last minute then potentially players that you could have have to be sitting out two weeks and stuff like that, and then people will probably be feeling even more iffy about it. I mean personally I know I. would definitely be feeling if you bought it knowing somebody that recently had the coronavirus as come in contact with me. People are also talking about the whole Donovan Mitchell Rudy Gobert thing. How are they coming back together? They really hasn't been too much news. either side of the spectrum, so we are definitely GONNA end up. Seeing is GONNA. Be Alive. Display of how will they are going to words together with each other? When the season restarts because as far as I know, both players will be playing around that time so. Last, not least of course. We have the Zairean Williamson case. I just want to give a quick update so I guess you could kyle. Like Legal Beagle episode is really kind of a recap. The kind of update on things that we're seeing right now, so there is some serious headwind making for Zion Williamson case with Jane of or. He may have. I don't WanNa say a one ticket, but he may have a serious. Chance of getting this lawsuit dismissed all together so. What's going on is? They are saying number one. The court is probably GonNa make a ruling with an a month. Okay, so the court cases already whining damp, secondly, or starting to see that there were some a legal going on with Gino Florida on her end, so it may appear that she violated her contract Ziad Williamson allegedly violated his side of the contract, which then makes it. the claim totally unbiased. And then they were dismissed the case altogether so. whether or not? Is All based on whether or not Zaire. Williamson was the first person to start. Contacting Prime Sports or are contacting on Williamson. So? If. It is found out their Prime Sports of course contact Zion Williamson I, that would then make violation of the agent at by Ford, which makes it all something, a little illegal on her side, because she's Dan voting her side of the contract because she broke first sight of the contract alleging. That, he's doing something that he's not like he's seeking other people to. Be his agent and our reality. Other people are seeking to be him to be the client, so we will see. Also, there was another update whereas I am. His parents did not have to testify whether or not. They received any gifts from Duke University. Um trying to urge them to boards. Allowing Zion to play for them now I thought that was pretty huge. Because then it takes a part of part of Jean affords. Argument was then Zairean was receiving illegal gifts in. A legal different ways to try to sway him and his family to play for Duke University. So. That part of the argument You can't prove because they don't have to testify choosing not to testify about these things that then gets rid of that part of the argument so the this next part. We're just going to see who contacted who I A for Zion's. That prime force contacted him I in the other side uniform is saying that's I am to contact. Absurd dampers, but we're GONNA. See because all the documents. All text messages are GonNa. Come Out, so we should see this case and. sometime to ward's I WANNA say the middle of JOE is so. We're going to be keeping that on. On the back burner. We're going to be paying attention to what happens on there, so. Without further do. Unfortunately a another short episode. I really wish that. Some of these episodes could be a little bit longer, but unfortunately we just don't have a whole lot of things going on hopefully towards. Dame's GONNA start beginning up. particularly with the NBA, because the NFL is just kind of up in the air right now. Everybody keeps saying that. We're GONNA have the NFL, but they just canceled. Be August eighth game which makes me feel like the reports the scientific reports that they are getting towards the estimates of when this coronavirus thing is going to end is a lot more dire than what we are hearing from these companies and what we may be hearing from the government. Government. which is something that I've been saying I'm not really paying attention to what these companies are seeing. because. Of course, they're gonNA save to try to drum up excitement for these things, but I'm going to be paying attention to what the scientists saying and what these companies are doing in response to these things with means that they are expecting the of for there to be sub. Serious Corona cases even in to August so I, want you? To. Make sure that you are aware I'm you are preparing yourselves for that potentially -ality. On. So Without further ADO. Unfortunately guys. The episode is over. It's always a pleasure catching up with you guys I. Always appreciate it. Make sure that you check out our website on time. Fan on how to do is hit PA. Doubt Fans Lesch ide- KK. She can check out our episode. Listen to the free version of this is if you tied to listen into on ads at the beginning and the middle. Middle of the end of the episodes. 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"It's Merriam Webster's of day four. September third. With indeed, Dot Com job postings you only pay for what you need can pause your account at any time, and there are no long term contracts indeed is offering our listeners a free seventy, five dollars credit to boost the visibility of your job post at indeed dot com slash word terms and conditions apply offer valid through September thirtieth. Today's word is matriculate spelled. M.. R.. I. C. U. L. A. T. matriculate is a verb that means to enroll as a member of a body and especially of a college or university, it can also mean to be enrolled at a college or university. Here's the word used in a sentence from the Washington Post by Ben Gulliver. Vince Carter, the player who would come to be known as half man half amazing matriculated at the University of North Carolina in the fall of nineteen, ninety five. Anybody who has had basic Latin knows that the term Alma mater a fancy way of saying school you attended comes from a phrase that means fostering mother if mater is mother than matriculate probably has something to do with a school nurturing. You just like a good old mom, right? Well, not exactly if you go back far enough matriculate is distantly related to the Latin term matter, but it's maternal associations were lost long ago. Even in terms of Latin history, it is more closely related to the late. Latin. Word Modrica which means public role or register. Matrouh Ula has more to do with being enrolled than being mothered but it is the diminutive form of the Latin Word Matrix, which is the late Latin term used for list or register and referred to female animals kept for the purposes of breeding. With your word of the day. I'm Peter Sokolski. Visit Mary. Webster. Dot. com today for definitions wordplay and trending word look ups.

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"Graduate used for staying up to the end of the game. And I wanna thank you allow me to take a nap during the second half. I appreciate an raise your, congratulations. But I also definitely now during that first. He's a longtime eighties pass out. I made a volunteer decision. I saw it. I was getting out of hand. I was like I'm gonna check back with four four dial looking off the man's. We only got one game tonight. I think we only got one game tomorrow night. Thank you, Adam silver for Norway need rest. I'm just saying ten thirty pm is late. I'm thirty three. It's late. I'm sorry. I name is James harden, however because Draymond green somehow bloody both of his eyeballs and a loss to the warriors were now up to hard and left the game. But returned and put up twenty nine saying after that he could barely see so diminished. Warriors win at all due to hardens injure mean one thing though, Horton didn't play badly, right? Like, he didn't look like a blind man out there played he shot better than he did when he had to good is in the game before. So I don't know if I'd call that diminished. Steph curry hit another game we he didn't play. So well how much of that had to do with having dislocated finger which obviously through the course of the game affected his ball handling. No this. I just thought turned out to be a really good game. We'll we did not talk about the. Fficials? Thank goodness. It all went through, but heart did look like he was going through it. I did not Luke pleasant. You looked so mad afterwards too. And he must be serious right now, he must be seething because we know how he felt after game one in terms of the non calls. He was very very sour as Sarah's I've ever seen him, basically. But now imagine this while the warriors are all celebrating. How good the officiating was and to your point. It was largely great James harden gets raked, bud. Draymond green in the is looks like he got bear sprayed. And meanwhile on green has no punishment. There is no Ellen afterwards. Houston listen to drain on about. How basically how nice this high road is because they will ask you this about hard though. I can't be the only person. How did he have to roll around on the ground before you go while he might actually be hurt? It was a minute before. I was like I'll have to go all the way to commercial break. He go into say spy after he did that whole thing with his neck that one time I thought he was lying. I will totally admit it. I was like, oh, he's just doing this to again gar. Earner attention for his cause. But no, his eyeballs were bleeding Draymond apparently expanded his repertoire to other all's that he might strike, but bovin the warriors men this Hamptons five line of this is what they're here for right to blow teams out of the water in these sort of contained circumstance. But like so the original death lineup as they did it. They could really only get like ten twelve minutes a game out of it because they were too small. I am surprised that they were able to get twenty four minutes out of that lineup. Cappella should be enough to punish them for doing that small problem. Kevin Durant is seven feet tall to right? Like, this is the put into rate in this lineup in the way. It was it's totally different than when you had the guys that they had before he got there into town. But if they can get long stretches of time with that lineup, then they're going to be everybody because we'd seen this in their previous runs the difference between them and the rest of the league is what they did when they had then lineup out there. It's like a relay race. And they know who's going to close it out who knows who has finishing speed. And question for anybody who comes. Up against them is can you keep it close enough and the rockets to their credit have kept it close despite all this. They've been pretty darn good. It's just that. Kevin Durant seemingly has its intent is incentives are squarely aligned with his also were known about that. Lonzo James harden? I think of the twenty four minutes that lineup was out there harmless out there for all of the time. And I want to say you put up twenty one points in that line on the issue was though, we turn the ball over five times. Right. Like when they had that lineup out there. They can become a different sort of defensive team that can take some measure of risk. But when they do that, they do struggle a bit to guard James harden because now the idea of and come to the rip that takes on a different characteristic been you don't have somebody big even if it's just like Andrew bogut or the ghost of Andrew bogut. There's something to be said for having that guy out there. So I don't think that lineup fixes everything. I wouldn't be shot. If the rockets won the next two games this thing came back to Oakland at two two. I didn't see anything in these first two games to tell me that Golden State is that much better than Houston. If better at all what we have is Chris Paul trying his very. Best and being pretty mad. If we could visit his night. Oh boy. Can you imagine what it's like Christos attached about losing Chris Paul has to travel straight faced act like, you know, don't do that. So James harden and finally got a call. You got a call one of the threes. He's been begging to call something on and that was a foul. And here's Chris Ball, celebrating with all of the earnestness that we've come to know, right Ascott, I'll know Scott lives life. But look at Scott positive what he did that I would imagine. So one thing I think we need to talk about Chris Paul did come up enough here. He loved his isolation office is give the ball to James hard. There's gotta be a better. Use of Chris Paul's forty million dollars a year. Then just having him be another dude on the BelAir kademi offense, right? Yes. He's one of the best point guards ever play this game. Now next name Yata tend to Cuco freaky, greedy at a big bounce bag put up twenty nine ten and four bucks even up the series with the Celtics one one meanwhile, Kyrenia cinemas first twelve shots. Only scored nine points of Pablo. This more about Jaanus or what kyri didn't do. Well, I think those two issues. Are related because remember Jaanus and Mike boot and Holter came out yesterday and said, we're not going to change anything. Which is exactly it turns out what you might say. If you secretly we're planning to adjust quite a bit, which is what they did defensively. They didn't do what they've done all year. Right. Which is dropped back on the pick and roll give the Celtics amid rain shots, which are so inefficient problem is the Celtics killed them in game. One saw in game two what they did was switch everything entirely Irving. As a result struggled, man. Four of eighteen from the field. And all those misses turned into more transition opportunities for the guy who is most fearsome in the fast break. Yup. Yeah. And that is the Dane for Milwaukee is going to be that they try to score so much in transition. They have scored so much in transition. And there have court offense is not necessarily great. Now what I thought was better about the half court offense. Again, these were scared to shoot it seemed like they just weren't ready to play into series enga- one. They look for more comfortable in game. Two in his shows going up at other boss grow Bledsoe. Look better. Everybody else Middleton. Yeah. Everybody else. There seem to look better. The thing. About the Celtics though, it is easy as it is to go look at kyri and say, wow, you didn't score. You didn't do what you did. In the previous game, Jason Tatum. I believe has all of ten points in the course of these two games that do that you supposed to not want to give up in order to get like a superstar because he has to produce more than this. We can't this team is not built for hiring to carry them. We didn't think this was a team that would have to carry in this way. Because when Kyrie when they're these other dudes brought it I'm not in a place where I'm gonna blame Tyree and his potential for ball dominance, for the fact that Jason Tatum not shown up, but you might be able to blame the culture that kyri is a part of the Kobe culture really that has resulted in a statistic that I saw today, which is crazy. I believe it's ninety five players have attempted at least one hundred ice. Oh possessions. Jason Tatum is ninety five out of ninety five. He's a wildly inefficient. And that wasn't his strength last year. Remember last year he was moving around the floor. Moving the ball attacking the offense in diverse ways. He seems to believe and he is very good friends with kyri that the Kobe approach to. Isos scoring is his best self and that's not good for this team. Well, here's my thing with him. Do you need him on the floor like if he's not going to produce they should have enough players on this? Ross granted Marcus smart being out affects them in that way, but they should have enough guys. But they don't necessarily have to have Tatum out there. And he's got score. He gotta move out. Last name is the NFL because Nancy are more of USA today argues that NFL owners still don't care about domestic abuse in that teams should lose to mid round draft picks if they signed someone with a history of domestic abuse and abuses, again is something like this. Bo a good idea. I think that it is maybe a step toward trying to find a solution to a problem that has vexed for quite a long time. Do I think this is a good idea though? I would argue probably not like this particular parts of it. Like, the idea that you would lose these picks you could not acquire them bag by trade. I don't know how you enforce that sort of thing. It's not really how trades work. If you giving something up, then you'd get something back. Okay. You go from there. But it doesn't to me fix. What? The big problem is which is St.. Dated very clearly if they don't care you can't seem to make them care on a different issue diverse. Hiring and coaching. For example, we try to come up with all these rules to make this stuff happened. But in the end, you can't make these guys care since they don't care. You don't see the advances that would be more reasonable. And without these guys care like they care. This is how this would go. Hey, Matt you draft somebody that's going to embarrass us. We're going to fire him, and we're going to fire you tune. But they're not going to do that. So if you put these measures in place, which are going to have his teams trying to find any way possible to not come up on the radar in the first place within they can't have the penalty the NFL teams do not care fundamentally. That is correct. But what they are is sensitive to public pressure. And so you have a public that is looking for some semblance of moral accountability. Make us feel good about watching the sport clean your conscience. So that we can feel good rooting for this game. The issue though, is something that deadspin often talks about and it hints. It really speaks. Directly to the complication that you mentioned. Right. The person who matters most morally in this is the alleged victim the issue is that what the public is calling for in terms of punishment is oftentimes not what the alleged victim actually wants. Because to lose the job of the primary. Breadwinner is a problem to break up. A household is a problem and also. It will deter future reporting. If those are the consequences. So the NFL is in this position where they have a big platform in a big responsibility. But how can they really be better at this in the actual legal system? It also speaks to I think the desperation that a lot of us in society feel that we have to reach out to the NFL in search of Justice. Yes. But I think people are looking for is some institution of some body to enforce the moral imperative in lay down the punishment somebody to make you feel like punishment. Succumbing to people who deserve it. The NFL is not built for that kind of work. No coming up next urban Meyer, coach USC, so. Hi name is brought to you by new coppertone sports clear. Clear. Cool protected and days gone exclusively on PlayStation four. Dearth leagues finding his beam to you from above the Heineken river deck and seventeen. Case you are wondering what Christian McCaffrey did during his vacation. This is like previous Christian, McCaffrey. And this is you incredible Christian McCaffrey Arbeit for me to give anybody workout advice, but I feel like the overdoing it. Amen. He'd been on spinach. Who? We'll definitely be recruiting him amazing makes think we won't be recruits. Nothing is off today. Said Reggie Bush to LA towns about how he met Lander may try to lure urban Meyer out of retirement because USC Pablo could you see this happening? I could see it happening, and it's worth noting that Herbin Meyer himself bearing of problematic history when it comes to overseeing the culture of his teams but urban Meyer is also like the least retired person who has retired that I can think of right. And we know this because he has this like cyst on his brain all his family's begging him to stop coaching. So it doesn't flare up again. And yet he's going to coach somewhere. Right. So why not USC? This is what he does also on the list of what he does leave school taking your broadcasting. Go get the best job that's available after he did that before this came at work for us, and they need took that year. And then he went and took the Ohio State job. And I would go even farther though, I don't know this is actually the case the only reasonable explanation for clay Hilton still having a job at USC is if you think urban Meyer needs a year off before he comes and takes this job. Now. I find interesting about this is the A has Reggie Bush totally banned from the program. There are no images or Reggie Bush around. They're they're trying to figure out what they're going to have to do at FOX if they had to try to broadcast from the Coliseum dirty USC because he's not allowed to go there. And this dude is still out here. Trying to get down for the program. I know the AA does doing this and not USC, but may and they'd have to do it on their own. It is funny that Reggie Bush and Matt liners are both sharing a desk and both of them speak to the floor. Mer relevance of that program is Reggie Bush just trying to get back to good with USC's. But again, his problem the NC double eight is his problem. But if urban Meyer goes the USC, you'll be a paradigm change with them on offense, and they will be back parental next. Quote, complete bull bleep. Said forty Niners coach Kyle Shanahan via text to NBC sports bay area dot com about a Bleacher report story claiming that he doesn't trust GM. John Lynch is decision making on player evaluation. So how do you see this dynamic playing? I mean of Kyle Shanahan was John. Lynch gone, John. Lynch has gone. The Boston is operation. It's Kyle Shanahan Shanahan who hired. John lynch. It is not John Lynch who hired Mike Shanahan. I have no idea. I mean, he says this is completely untrue. Maybe he doesn't have any problem. What's going on with John Lewis? John Lewis is a passenger on this trait this trained, by the way is coming into year three. And if you don't get some signs this year, some real signs that you were making progress. You got Jimmy Garoppolo Beck. We ask some questions. I don't care. How long has contract is it is year three years one and two added up to ten and twenty two in so Kyle Shanahan? We know. Like, he's a good offensive mind. He's a brilliant coach, according to some people who know about these things, but John Lynch outside of Jimmy Garoppolo. And that's. A big if because that is the franchise quarterback she used this blank slate. Right. We don't really know what John Lynch is good at. So even though they're denying all of this. I do wonder how is John Lynch at his job? Well, I mean, all of these guys you have to ask this because the thing about Jimmy Garoppolo is and we have made the decision that Jimmy Garoppolo is a franchise quarterback like collectively in this industry. We have decided that in spite of the fact that that dude had pretty good second half of one season. And didn't look especially good at the beginning of last year. We don't have a great fighting of evidence. They're invested in him financially. He's going to wind up being got. But what Jimmy Garoppolo turns out to just be ado, which is totally possible that he is just to do because that makes me ask questions about the judgment of both of them if they hits their wagon to Garoppolo they decided to trade the pig, and then give him all that money it. They bet wrong on the quarterback and all of them are going to be gone anyway. No, we thought that they were benefiting from this market inefficiency in the market inefficiency was conflict between Bill Belichick and. Bob Kraft and Tom Brady, and that's how they got this very handsome and arguably sex positive young quarterback. According to what he's given out in the public. Wow. Wait, a waste all that time with the point is if he wasn't looking the way he does. And if you didn't have the pedigree that he came from we would not look at him in nearly the same way and all of that stuff is superficial. It'd be fair out even know how much of it is is about looking. They went on a nice ruin at the indices, and it don't take much people to get excited about quarterbacks. Quote, abs- was going on. Sitcom mellow. Anthony would ask us and y about the possibility of joining the Knicks this off season if they signed Kevin Durant a free agency public. Why did mellow say this because he had to say something? And this feels like what you say when someone you haven't seen in a while asks if you've got invited to your old friends wedding. And you didn't get the invitation yet. And you're not sure, but you gotta say y'all got to see what's going on over there. Because man, this is just sad at this point. Right. This makes me said, well, here's the thing. What makes you think? The Knicks are calling you right? How did this possibility? Even come up at anybody draw this up what about plan for the next to see what's going on? Then we know what's going all UBA gains in close regular clothes. Right. And look, you know, why he's dressed like that. Because there is no NBA dress code when you buy a ticket. Right. They came make you put on those four cove when you buy a ticket you can wear whatever the hell you want when you buy a ticket. And so yeah, the possibility of signing with the Knicks did they call you about a season ticket plan. But the crazy thing about him showing up in street clothes at these NBA games during the season is that he was on an NBA team. He was like, theoretically, a member of the hawks or whatever it was. Maybe it was the bulls the off whatever it was Carmelo Anthony weirdly found some measure of popularity wains showed up if these arenas because everybody was like, oh, Carmelo Anthony. He's not playing anymore. And finally, we can just sort of look at him and smile and laugh because otherwise he would be buried, very frustrated. He did did his farewell tour tickets out the app. Coming up next, Vince Carter, retire Gilbert arenas thing. So. Attention, please. Hi newness. Brought to you by Liberty Mutual insurance. Only pay for what you need. Lasry has sources the Kevin Durant. Hawaii littered anti-bias hairs are among players who quote would at least consider sign with the nets. Where to go out on a limb there folks, I like how we're in at least consider season. That's good. Today's number twenty two. How many seasons Vince Carter who announced he's coming back next year plans to play which led Gilbert arenas, the post the following on a Bleacher report, I post about Carter's return, quote, there's young players trying to live the dream. You did in every year you play that's one player getting from his dream and quote, Gilbert, half a point. No because if you're not better than the forty seven year old guy in the NBA, probably isn't for you. Now, I feel like this subtext here. And I don't know for fact, right? But we've been following Gildas career for quite a long time. We follow them onto Graham, I feel I subtly Gilbert arenas to say. How come I'm not on a team events. Carter is still on a team. I could beat him right now without Gilbert could play eighty two and he knows he can't. But I feel very competent say things he could be Vince Carter in one game. I agree with you completely. But it is also true that Vince Carter is basically said to the world you can take my job when you pry it out of my cold, dead hands. He is forty two he shot thirty nine percent from three. Three. And the fact is I think Vince Carter is trying to establish that he is somebody who the young people should know because we have a guy on our staff. Young Charles who was born in ninety two and does not appreciate the institution of insanity. The nonsense that he was out of your saying. I just adult say none to the kids. I think Vince is only like basketball players play basketball. If I'm going to play basketball, a might as well, let somebody pay me a million to two in order to go ahead and do this. But can we get two because apparently some people like Charles have never seen one of the greatest, boo. He'll tear you go in you'll sell. That's what you do it. The video video three sixty windmill off the rip this is that was thrown in there. And remember they brought back the dunk contest. Just so Vince could begin resurrected it and then ascended into heaven because this is the greatest dunk contest of all time. It is it was over vent. It was my favorite is elbow into go. Vince was so code at this dunk contest that we don't even bother to add to the montage. The Tommy took off one leg from the free throw line and duck with two hands. We were like all right. I was a little bit of a letdown. The craziest thing is his greatest dunk may not even have been on that don't know. It's not great. As of all time. He did it to Frederick vice also of note there like three other dues in that context. Who were incredible? And it doesn't matter because Vince Carter not at all in closing wanna say shoutout taste WNBA player. Lexi Brown for taking on this form. For d two player and turning her internet hell into our internet content. Watch swear y'all beat these ladies into WNBA. I have come to appreciate that. If you play basketball, and you are a woman, you will get challenges basically every hour of the day in which people like this gentleman. Here say we're actually not as good as you think she's doing t- with long sleeves is dissecting you in a logs leave shooting jersey. And by the way, this is the Browns daughter, I think Lexi Brown could have done this with the blindfold on speaking of great dunks. I don't think he needed eyesight to do what he's doing. But also what I wasn't people understand like saying that you played basketball division. Two means you're still pretty good at basketball. Right. I mean, yes, she gave him that work. That'd be sad. I hope he would really popping up before the game because the gentleman did not appear to be at shall we say his play weight. I don't feel like you look like that. He's to jersey being the and felt in D two probably not a great. Resume line did desert. Sorry in closing the nose forever is clearly more daunting to me than it is the rest of you, follow a safe for one thousand followers. He would get a tattoo that said, Mike, Scott hive. Yeah. The do the place but a six anyway, you got the followers. Now, he's got the tattoo. Wow. Forever. And I feel like if you go pay adequate ship you to my Scott you get a tattoo. He's got which is to say of an emoji that is near and dear to your heart all the emojis, perhaps. But Mike, Scott has a hive Kevin Durant. Have a hive yet because my Scott apparently has people who tattoo name on their bodies. While honestly that has been Ables home link thing in the world for Kevin Durant. Mike Scott Scott who by the way on restricted free agent after this year. Also, not the most accomplished my Scott in sports nineteen Eighty-six young award winner for the Houston Astros. Mike, scott. Wow. Yeah. You went that Mike Scott on this year. The guy there would assign young award highly questionable coming up next.

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"Crude. Oil is crude natural gas is pure. That's why Pennzoil's based. Oil is made from natural gas not crowed gives you unbeatable engine protection. The proof is in the pennzoil based on sequence for aware test using SA Five W. Thirty. Welcome into the jump I am Rachel Nichols alongside Richard, Jefferson Vince Carter Zach Lowe we are here at the arena excited for the start of the NBA finals and it is time then for an NBA finals edition of jump ball I up gentleman who has the better starting lineup heat or Lakers Vince, you go i. Mean when you have that guy right there with the basketball abroad James in in in. Budding Super Superstar Anthony Davis, you have to give give it to the to the Lakers. I'm trying to think I'm just getting. It's a Los Angeles Lakers look Los Angeles Lakers had the best starting lineup without a doubt without a as a team is probably the Miami Heat but the individual superstar star power power is definitely the Los Angeles Lakers. Yeah the heat's lineup, it's beautiful to watch all the players complement each other they make everybody. Better the choreography is amazing but the Lakers have Lebron James and Anthony. Davis like let's let's overthinking Lebron James and Davis, you can put like three other random NBA players and they'd have the best starting lineup at the NBA. All right. So Zach, giving that who has the better bench the heater, the Lakers. Two weeks ago this answer would've he think right now it's the latest the Lakers are good productive off the bench from the Rondo whose and on and on the he kind of became a seven-man team toward the end of the Eastern Conference finals even tried Solomon Hilas. They typed so kind of astoundingly I think it's become the Lakers out of that could change the heater GonNa try some things in this series but right now the Lakers are solidly nine. I I definitely think the Lakers have the deeper bench but tyler hero equal are are so important to that team with star power but they're so important. But the deeper events definitely is is the Lakers but right now tyler heroes playing like a starter. Yeah. No, I completely agree like, yeah. The reason why the Lakers go ninety is because they're constantly trying to shuffle them to figure out. To be entre that contributor that's why they look like they do whether it's Rondo or so one or two of those guys make show up every single night but you have to shuffle through right now let's let's go out and say tyler hero would be the third best player on the Las Lynch's Lakers this without a doubt there's the he would be the third best player, and then you look at what Andrea Guatemala Did in that most important game in that closeout game. So I'm going to say the Miami Heat have better bench still two guys who have guarded Lebron James the most checked him the most in the playoffs over the last five years are Jimmy Butler and Andre. Igwe. Dollars they know what they're doing. There were up to see if they can actually do it. All right. Next up Richard I want to know who you think has the coaching edge frank. Or Exposure I. Think this is without a question I'd be surprised if my. Two colleagues here said anything other anything other than than than Spoelstra mainly because he's already won a championship, he's won the championship would different with different starting lineups in different groups and he coats the best player on the other team. So that gives you a strategic mental advantage of just knowing what he likes what he doesn't like. So I think that question and frequent Vogel is a very good coach I think that goes a test Spoelstra. Hands. down. To I mean for all the reasons. that. RJ. Sit. That's Well said because he's been there. He understand what what it takes he he understands ups and downs, and like you said, he knows how that guy on the other team ticks. Frank Vogel is unbelievable job this year he did an unbelievable job Indiana. Let's forget about Orlando. I think you have to default dispose a two-time champion. He's a hall of Famer. He's been at this stage before and he knows everything about Lebron James Inside and out. So it's hard to not people despu here I'll even though prank is. Absolutely, and I think we've seen over and over through the years that coaching superstars just roll out the ball right? We've seen so many big name superstars, teams just implode. So I really give a lot of credit to Frank Vogel for getting them here especially through this bubble environment and there were some moments where we didn't know if the Lakers to stick around. This for very serious and important reasons, and he is one of the voices that has kept that team together. There is still the fact that when you've never done something before you are not as good as if you've done it several times and of course, you have to remember Eric not. Only one, those two rings as a head coach. He was insistent on that Miami Heat team in two thousand six as well and he learned at the foot of the great Pat Riley all right. So events our last jump ball, who are you taking in game one heat or Lakers Vince Carter Well, we all know the series doesn't start until game to all right but for for game one I'm GonNa. Give it to the mime, the Miami Heat because of the Lakers history of. Round one round two of not winning the first game. In it after that. Look out. I think I get with visit Sam because you know the heat feel the heat feel more comfortable in their identity they're going to come out and do what they do. The Lakers puzzle solvers they need to come out. See you a little bit. Then they figure you out but I think the Lakers shaken the game one curse I think they should against Denver I think they're my pick to win the series so I might as well pick them to win game one don't mess around Lakers come out and win game one. Who I I think though with the Lakers. Also even though they are you know kind of like they figure out that puzzle and they'd get bear better as the series goes on but I think this this this series is going to be more about the Miami Heat adjustments early on then it will be the Los Angeles Lakers. So that, for that reason, I think the Los Angeles Lakers are going to strike first in the series. Jimmy video twirling his mustache rate he's he's ready. He scheming he's got. Triggers exact. Is. Going to be such a good game one, we cannot wait. That's it for us at the jump at the NBA finals enjoy the basketball. I think install I, found an advocate curse and. Its is are just very life spike. WHAT DOES IT TED KEEP SPINNING? A is scary. 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"When deciding how and when to safely return to the workplace you need to be informed. That's why IBM Watson helps you prioritize employee safety with Watson works a set of a infused capabilities. Let's put smart to work visit IBM, Dot Com Slash Watson works to learn more. Go to the John presented by Dell. So, a few days ago I was bragging on the fact Vince Carter was still doing three sixties at age forty, two and forty three and little. Richard Jefferson. Week. Super Week Right. I can't do it. So I I gave it full marks Richardson. This is after I got warmed up a little bit just a little something simple. I want. I. WanNa see Dunkin's pants. A look. I first that's after a full warm up and stretch I just got off A. We. We just got out there that is. Gaining I. Know. How this works come home You got you got eight inches higher did right there. I'm just saying YouTube or tearing it up when you played for the nets together and someone still has some elevations. Yeah I've. Listened to Mike often go do a one more time. I think America needs to. Still be in the league. No no no. No. I'm very comfortable right here. I was actually grumpy when I was doing that and I'm a much better place while doing this. Gives The full sat out not everybody would go do that for TV cameras I I you commitment Richard Right up here. Thank you. Guys told me earlier. I would've sent a video in and I would try to as well. Oh I think that's GonNa happen in the off season Vince I think with this this is the thing. Do It to do it and you have to do it in shoes are running shoes and pants also that makes it the same. That was a conscious choice Richard Jefferson. TV I'm not coming in short would've. Jay. Back. Man's can still jump from the free throw line. To jump I break this Mary Beth up I Rachel Nichols. I am joined indeed by esteemed panel of dunkers. NBA. Richard Jefferson six time VHF am Scottie Pippen and the future hall of Famer, the Dunk master the man who can do it all twenty two seasons including just this past one. Vince Carter coming up. We also have the boss Rick. Ross on the show today. He will stop by to discuss the heat's chances coming back in these finals. How heat fans deal about Lebron James. And so much more. I though we got some relatively big news coming out of China where CCTV says, it plans to televise game five of the NBA finals live. Now normally, that wouldn't be huge news except this is the first game broadcast television in China in more than a year it was in fact one year five days ago when Richard and I were in China. As the reaction to Daryl tweet on a plan if we're GONNA get off. Yeah. There you go. But in fact, they are playing these NBA finals and people in China we'll see it. They will see regime Rondo as well because he has had quite a journey to get to this point, he sat down with me would discuss the fact that humans. A few years ago, we talked about his future plans and what this title would mean for him take a look. So the closing game when you are trying to win a championship is always the hardest. What do you expect a game five? Everything from various crappy team expect the way they played in game three I'm out even more crappier Jimmy more aggressive. So we're going to get their best shot. We have in office series your ability to look at film to break breakdown schemes is legendary I have been on the sidelines and watched you point out to an opposing player O. Onnell Nero, you're supposed to be over there. What do you see in guys faces when you do stuff like that or you call out the names of their plays and they realized that you've got their number more than they do. You know obviously understanding you know when you feel the central fear someone no different from when you obviously know this auto play. So I like to exercise at the coaches minus wheel understanding. What they are trying to call their tried to disguise a plate no one just from the the set of very ended, be able to discuss it out to my guys and give them the answers to the test basically. So people do call you a coach out there on the floor. But when you were hurt frank, Vogel actually made you a coach. It wasn't ceremonial. You were in the assistant coaches meetings you were game planning with them. What do you get out of that experience? Amazing experience you know being able to be in the side of potential NBA championship coach that means daily and learning. So I was just trying to be as much as possible. Recorded some of our our film I took a lot of notes down just. So in the future, but I do want to become a coach. Have you know I've ever had the blueprint on how to be a successful coach in how to conduct meetings and giving coats assistant you know giving them a voice in the mean do you think you're GonNA end up coaching? The NBA? I love the coach I love to teach the game. I love the people position to succeed so that that is a recipe for coach. Also, you don't want to botch myself. I would love to be a GM as well. So those are the pass I would like to go down in the future careers. I WanNa talk about a play where your vision really came into things during a game in the Denver. Series Anthony Davis hits that three. The turns the series you ask to be the one to throw the ball in why did you do that? What did you see once you were out there I just feel like I'm the quarterback and people don't realize I, turn that game. So it was kind of risky for me to put my badge. You know ask the chick myself back into the game with no timeouts love being able to make the right play within past against with a seven footer jumping in front of me. So I'm I'm a big believer in offer like I'm one of the best passes and either play. Disrespecting quarterback in NFL but. been pretty good passes well, so you know at least. Translation in basketball and me being able to deliver to pass time on target. I don't want to shortchange your journey to get to this point and it wasn't all smooth road. Remember Dallas. You gotTA break with that team in the middle of a playoff series retired. Bill does not want to play for Rick, Carlisle recall does not want Rondo being his point guard here it is over here Rondo quit on his team. Did. You worry that or think that you've never play in the NBA game. I don't know I. Feel like League. Say as a whole but. Trying to get me out of the game for awhile obviously after that year, I didn't have too many teams calling it was like two teams collins and I went up to Sacramento. So that was a big relief coming from where I came from the year before. So I guess everything happens for a reason I'm a big believer in always rise to the top and I stayed put. I kept kept my head down and continue to work hard and hopefully tomorrow out of you another great feeling and then here you are one win away from another championship. But you know you have been one win away from title before in two thousand, ten with the Celtics. But Obviously, this is different now, well, the MAZDAS different. The talent on our team is different into climate where we are you know Miami's a hell of a teams obviously both teams here for a reason and like I said with the coaching staff and all the talent we have in the focus. We're here in the boat with it that we have I think we should get the job. Thanks so much. For taking the time and as you can see playoff Rondo. Proven fact for his career, his numbers in the playoffs have risen across the board. So let's talk a little bit more about game five Richard. You are a specially equipped to discuss what it takes to come back from down three one in the finals being you know the only guy on the team that ever done it back in two thousand Sixteen Lebron Kyrie each scored forty forty-one in game five to help keep your cabs alive in that series what Is. The difficulty what is the degree of difficulty here for what you guys pulled off especially, those do you. You've already seen it happen a couple of times in the postseason that three one deficit. But I think here this is something that again is never been seen. We running into things in this bubble normally it's like, okay we got to go win one game at home than we got to go and just do this road game and then There's like a a formula that you can convince your brain up. So I don't know if that is harder are doing it here is harder because there's a constant everyone's on the floor. There is no home crowd there is no way crowd. So I think truly it would be easier to do it here. No traveled no nothing. So I think the rhythm could get going easier here, and so that's why I think the Lakers really need to be on edge I mean this would be Lakers home game if we were doing a regular scheduled for the NBA finals. Not The it will be a four Game Scottie spinning forward to that game who do you think is under more pressure here Lebron James or Jimmy Butler. Well. That's a great question, right? I think in this game, there's really no pressure You know you look at the Lakers, they got two games to really play with really before the pressure even shift to them. But for the Miami Heat I think with the loss of dry gates and also not having Bam for strength I don't see any pressure being in this game tonight I think this will probably be the game that Miami Heat can come out and how one of their best games they feel like probably Bam had another game to get on his sleep to play better but I don't see any pressure in this game and I think this is a game where Miami he can probably have their best game. Well, for me, I, agree with you. I think Lebron has been through been through it. All understands the moment and what's at stake and I agree the Lakers have a couple of games in their favor. So there's no pressure. but I I. Think. Jimmy if I had to pick Jimmy Butler out of the to Jimmy Butler is probably the one he has to play. You know perfect basketball and we have to see another game three performance in my mind at the end of the day I say if anybody has pressured. Work with me here when I say this I say Anthony Davis because he's the one who has the opportunity to play at a to win the MVP to win his first championship and in the closeout game as you know for sure you WanNa play your best basketball in a closeout game specimen. You're the one three one to close it out. So you know I picked Jimmy Butler for that reason but I say, Anthony, Davis at the has the most pressure because he wants to play the best basketball right now. Yeah when we look at Jimmy Butler Ventas, right like a game three performance is needed if there's no Bam out of bio playing the way he did last game. If Duncan Robinson isn't playing the way he did last game those guys stepping up one getting Bam on the court and the way that impacts their offense that takes a lot of pressure off of Jimmy. Now, he can just kind of go play basketball versus you know asking go score forty. So right now I think it's I think it's Lebron I. Truly believe that there is more pressure on Bron because Butler. Is Actually, added players on his roster. So bron wants the close this out when we were talking about legacy and wants he wants accomplish like he wants to be the greatest of all time and I think universally even though he's on the Mount Rushmore, he needs to continue moving like further and further down. That's nice and the only way that happens if he wins more championships and so getting it done this year and possibly if he's able to win more but the more pressure is on Bron that's it like he's the best player on the best point with a three one series. At one point with the Jimmy Butler thing you know you said he's at know how you said adding Bam other guys playing well, but I feel like if doesn't play at this level, he doesn't create easy shots for everyone else being the superstar having that load you have to do it all and and and I say he has to play that with you know alleviating pressure from everyone else meaning, make it easy for Bam the role because when he rolls, you open up the three point shot but that's because Jimmy is aggressive. He has to be aggressive and he has to play like Bam. Isn't on the floor Let's be honest also, the the the Lakers have figured out answer for Jimmy Butler and his name is Anthony Davis. They don't have to put Lebron James. Ellen Anthony Davis had proved. He can guard Lebron Jimmy Butler and not allow him to bully other players around the court. Anthony Davis certainly, really strong defending Jimmy especially through the final three quarters of the previous game. But Jimmy Butler has definitely taken the we have no pressure. We no one expected us to be here all the pressures on them tax. So we'll see which one pans out tonight coming up. Mr Donovan Mitchell is going to be joining the show. He will discuss his social justice efforts, his scoring explosion here in the bubble, we'll play a little game of what were you thinking keep it locked to watch. Right me. The wheat marks the sixth. Annual. Kpmg Women's PGA Championship at Automate Golf Club October Eighth Through Eleventh in Newtown Square Pennsylvania as the first ever partnership between the LPGA tour. The PGA of America and KPMG KPMG WINS PGA championship brings together the Best Lpga players from around the world to compete for one of the most coveted major championships in golf competing on championship. Caliber Courses Kpmg Women's PGA Championship. Has Elevated the women's game to new heights and puts. The LPGA players in the national spotlight and the KPMG WINS Leadership Summit L. 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We miss you down here in the bubble and I know that when you were down here, you were one of the loudest voices calling for civil rights calling for people to be heard what you've been doing since you left fair Orlando to help push forward this most important effort. You know I think the biggest thing is. Continuing to use that voice I think the NBA, the BPA Doug Necklace carry while done a great job of sign ways to amplify voice and allowing our. Guys Kinda use voice in ways we want you know. So for myself find ways to give back to kids education reform, finding ways to you know just change the way black men and women are perceived in the media to people you know and not a threat. You know we're equals and I think for myself just continuing to find ways to inform and help people understand more about our history as African Americans, and also like I said the stocks that we aren't a threat to society. Absolutely and I think one of your coaches said there is a player who pulled over for being suspicious being black is not being suspicious isn't important important message that you guys amplified here in this bubble frankly better than people expected you to. They're worried about the distraction of basketball you guys turn around and use that as your advantage and I know are only continuing now and with this campaign. So I'm very grateful for that as are a lot of people Donovan you got to ask you a little bit about basketball though has your team gotten over that game seven loss to the nuggets because you know that Paul went in and out and you don't have to tell you. It's funny. We actually had a call a earlier today and I think the first thing we all talked about was. You know credit to Denver and what they what they've done. You know. Not beating US beating. La as well but you know we felt like we were right right there. You know we control that series. Looks had a few mishaps that we didn't have the series and we're going to look in the mirror and understand Now, we're getting Bouillon back. You know twenty points per game which. We're right there and I think we're really excited for next season. Yeah, I mean look if that Mike Conley shot had gone in does it make you think as you are watching the next series and you do see the nuggets that you were right there with take down the clippers do you start to run through your head that could have been that could have been us. A hundred percent but I think when you live when you live in that mindset I think it's kind of it feels you a seals me watching you know obviously I'm close I'm pretty cool Jamal. We've known as substance high school. So watching 'em play and watching him do things I'm like, wow I could not see how I can cover it down into my game. I think Yokich watching them Jeremy Grand playing low. Those guys really did their thing at the end of the day really kind of pisses you off I'm not GonNa lie where it's like man we were right there at the end of the day. That's what that's what it is. We're right there and you know I think for myself and and a lot of the guys on the team all the guys I should say and coaches we're ready to go. To start next month could add. I think we're fired up reading is probably mindset to have. I. Don't have great news for you about next month but last month was pretty good for you. You a couple of fifty point games. Yeah. Average more than thirty six points per game. In the post season. Do you expect that scoring surge to be such a big part of your game and carry over to next season? I think you know it's GonNa be tough to average. Thirty six thirty seven, but I think. I got down there was you know being a better playmaker overall whether it's continuing to school finding guys you know what? I'm most proud of is the fact that you know maybe a small increase, but the increase in assist myself find a way to get possibly six seven is obviously have multiple ball handler. So it's a little tougher but understanding that that's where I'm at picking up on the defensive end finding ways to continue to elevate my game and be a leader for this team. While you're jazz coaches said from day one that you walked in the facility no one has been more dedicated to breaking down tapes I know you will be poring over every frame getting ready for next year I. I, do play America's favorite game with you Donovan. We like to play here at the jump. What were you thinking? You can tell us what went through your mind during these highlights. So my first question is, what were you thinking when you kept running into your friend Jaylen Brown in side of the bubble because it was constant was quite a bit. So you know Jalen, I replayed team USA together So we see each other all the time and you know we've kind of made it into a thing kind of other record and they were tiles, right? Bro I'm eating sleepover call me right now. He's in the colts messages, but I think it's just all all fun and games, but it was. It was cool to just like I. think that's probably the mobile experience you know. So like a big. Where everybody was there together and you know I think that was that was pretty great. I did like that won't leave me alone the What were you thinking, Donovan? Mitchell Wayne. You jammed it past Michael Porter. Jr.. This is from game five. Exploded with this dog, what was going through your mind? I'd even knows went in I, my I to be honest with you I just you know one of those things if I had taken the layup, you know like he had the advantage m being six tenths of the day. Their terms were you know you just have to finish through people. That I take that was one of those moments we are. Also, we had given up fifteen point lead at that time. So for myself, it was kind of weird Kinda. Make a statement like we're not. We're not letting this happen. Obviously, we didn't happen but that was really just the mindset to kind of give my team of surge and but I didn't even know winning when I made I don't know if they make posters like they used to, but that would be a poster. All see what we can do. A homemade poster can make a poster. What you were thinking. Donovan. When the ball landed well. It landed somewhere. Very special to you earlier this season versus the Kings. Tried to take charge not only did you not get the call but the bell landed right on you and if he came I, think this was across the Internet for like six months after this and of course, your teammates relished it for some reason I I don't know. All I heard was. Coach Johnny Bryan told me to get up. At Vegetarian, smiling because I was just like you need guy laughs at one often and give back. He's pretty he was pretty tough on me intended to get up The. Only thing I heard at that time. I just going to say that we hear all about how close knit you guys are all that teammate love and joined goals was just openly laughing at you so joe. Joe Is like he's always find ways to make fun of me just always a joke to. Instance. He let me let me know about it tomorrow. The means are the next day the day after that. So I know the Internet had it but I didn't hear about I didn't forget in the locker meaning so I am sure what we wish you only good highlights ahead a good off season and we too are excited to see you get back on the court next season as soon as that happens. Thank you so much. Show. Coming up we'll talk about whether the road to a title is easier or harder in the bubble we will discuss stick around. Welcome to the show presented by Dell. Game Five the NBA Finals Tonight I thought eastern ABC ESPN's reporters and the ESPN APP here the Lakers are three one against the heat but Miami. They're scrappy just saying our coverage starts NBA countdown eight, Thirty Eastern and I will be on the sidelines for that game. So come hang out. We know. He's watching over us. Responsibility to represent the goal. Yeah. Santa's we such as. The. Lakers back in control. These NBA finals. Job is not done. Jobs not finish. Job Finish. I don't think. So visit between assist. Decided to see how we Can do it. That Dad Correct van. Damme? Sometimes. Sometimes we. Continue you to not sleep until the job is done. Welcome back to the jazz. We got Scotty Pippin Vince Carter Richard Jefferson still in the House and goes here's a live look at where we would be today. Don't do that. A little bit different. I would have been able to take my son to school today. There's already a couple news tricks. Chests down. Sad. This It looks Nice. This postseason different for just that just just so many reasons that's not the only one. But one really interesting trend we've seen that road teams have won fifty one percent of their games here in the bubble to compared to forty four percent irregular postseason Scotty. Do you think the road to winning title for the Lakers or the heat is easier or harder than in previous years? I mean I gotta say us a little bit easier I mean when you look at the fact that they are. On one ground, they're not having to get out and do any traveling. So they have access to these players twenty, four, seven, they call it a practice at three. In the morning, they could call the team meetings. So I definitely see that it's a little bit easier but not only that when you look inside of these arenas. That these players are accustomed to playing in. The great shooters are the one that stand. Now, the ones that can shoot shots and not be affected by the death perception inside of an arena and I see inside of that bubble that I see walls I, see things that are not distracting easies players I see players that are not known to be great shooters throughout their careers are now stepping up and making shots. So I do believe that it's an easier task playing out of the bubble because I think they're playing inside of a shooters. GM. I I go go to the other side. I think it's tougher for the civil fact all of the things you said I agree with the thousand percent. Little. Easy. You don't have to worry about going to play like in. UTAH. In Boston and some of these rowdy places but you look at today's game. The mental side of the of is tough and who can you know my question was what team can come together the quickest in the beginning. And get it going and I felt like because of all of the. And I mean there's no distractions. But after a while you get tired of looking at the same fort walls you get tired of going to the same place seeing the same people the person you play against all of the time all of these things you know it's just For me I think I would struggle in the bubble particularly early early on wanted to see your family this thing after a two week world road trip. Guess what we get to go home. Well three months for these guys they have to continue to play to figure out how to stay focus and you asking young guys to stay focused and do do what you need to do. So I think as far as that's concerned that is the challenge for these guys particularly older guys like for us. So imagine you guys beat the bubble with your kids like younger guys. They don't have to worry about that I I would miss my kids. I WANNA, see my kids and luckily for me, I have golf I you golf as well. So we can golf and get away from it a little bit and kind of refocus because you you. See the scenery and get away from the game but all of these guys can't do that and you're asking them to kind of focus in. So that's why it says a little tougher. I- everyone is brought up a great point. I think the mental aspect of this has been far difficult because the more you play the more you're away from your family, the more you're kind of eating the same food in the NBA has done a great job of trying to accommodate in making this as comfortable of a situation. That's something that I applaud. Purely, talking about basketball just to see that fifty one percent of the road teams have what that is something. We would never ever ever see an actual basketball normal series. So by that definition, it is a lot easier to be the underdog because you work for eighty two games to get home court. So you have game seven. So you know the percentage of winning game when the series tied to to is like you win seventy percent all of that. has been thrown out of the window and so I think it's been a lot easier for teams physically and from a standpoint like Scotty talks about good shooters and the backgrounds it's been easier to do that here for a mental emotional standpoint but more difficult for a physical game standpoint, there is no home court fifty-one percent basically means that every games a tossup doesn't matter if your home away because it is a neutral site, it's just to me it's not. About better or easier, any of that it's about different muscles, right? So Michael. Phelps is an elite elite swimmer greatest ever Michael Jordan elite elite basketball player. If you put Mj in the water and you put Michael Phelps on a basketball court, you're not getting those elite results. Will this bubble tests you in a different way? You will be a different kind of champion then you would have outside of the bubble, right? So I agree with Richard about the. Mental aspects just from being down here and what these guys have to see and through every day. I think it tests those muscles more on. That is why we have seen the two teams that have ended up here are teams that had great chemistry all season because it tests that and toughness and just think that it is a different kind of championship the test different things not better or worse. We're GONNA remember twenty twenty for so many reasons this year. This will certainly be one of them coming up. We got the Teflon Don Rick, Ross stuff and Bida tells us why is His hometown, the series and whether or not he still routes for Lebron. After Lebron I, don't know if you've heard this Richard Butler on left and he. Looked wherever he at? For today detail from the mind of the late Koby Bryant. Of course, in this episode, Kevin Durant Breaking Down Jimmy Butler here's a sneak peek. Go to your options versus almost like a quarterback in a pocket. Seeing what's coming up and I saw Jimmy looks worse to shooters over their hero and Dunkin along Solomon Haile said screens like saw so they could probably switch. Exactly what they did a switch everything. You get mismatch only best player on the post. More and more Jimmy can get down near more and more Miami have a chance. Easy basket. We all believe that we can get this done. So nobody going on yet still. Just this mentioned. Before. Name was. To. Go. Get it. Big. We are all the real be one and only Rick Ross here with me got events. Richard latest album is titled Richer Than I've ever been welcome to the Jim Sir. Thank you. Never before we talked to you about your Miami Heat Vince Carter does have a question he's been dying ask you. cleese. Well I'm affordable representing Daytona Beach High School you'll Florida boy from Miami Miami Carol City. I support my Florida boy me I'm looking for a shutout on Algebra I haven't gotten one yet. You. Say We know we thought look out for each other? That's Torrisi we GOTCHA. Overseas. biscottis jumping out. The Jim. This. I mean, Vince ought to start anything. But Rick Did shutout Scotty on the track sixteen, Ricky diverse forest, the floor seat. He's legendary. He can do that. Look like at that. See. I'm stacking better put away a penny for the rainy day living like Scottie Pippen dribble riddles per vittles. For vittles. vittles. A. I want to count the name, the number of times Scott. He's been shattered out. It's got to be well into the hundreds vinyl deleted. Louis appreciate the love. Serve. It ask you about your heat tonight week. Are you feeling good about Miami's chances of winning two night? Series. I'm extremely confident extreme. well, the question I have is. The question I have for you rick is this I understand the connection to Braun in Miami and I know that the heat fans are rooting for broad but do the heat fan still actually do they still have love for them? We do now. Okay. What kind of grand are you if you aren't loyal to your parents? If you only have fan when you win in the rings, not after they move on. That s not a true fan. Yeah Rick I'm giving you a panel with some of the greatest basketball players to ever touch the rim and me am Richard Jefferson For ossoff panel, there are people who would who would ask me pippen Vince Carter or Richard. Jefferson anything. You want the other to. Okay, you know understand you know always been underdog. In my field I, love being underdog to me as. The position. Jimmy Book. Aka Jimmy Jesus. Own. You know being an underdog. You know when I think of Scottie Pippen, I don't necessarily think of underdog but may Scotty who he was was you know Scotty could have been Drowned out by the talent of Michael Jordan by the excitement of Michael Jordan and then never happened. That's speak volumes for Scotty picking on court, and it's a lot of times. You know we watch Scottie make plays in your sat back and was like. You know what I mean you know the happiness bill low Scott. So we know the value of sky we know the value of Vince Carter I just want from you guys position Jimmy Jesus said how confident on Youtube at night for the Miami. I'm acting pretty confidence in a Miami. Heat I feel very good that they're going to come out tonight, swing and I. I have yet to see them how their best game in the final so I expect tonight to be the night. For me you know I'm not sure but I tell you what I will tell you is this you know what Jimmy Butler has instilled in that organization into that team. It's been amazing. He has those guys believe in regardless of how they're playing in the record and I think going in there if they didn't have a Jimmy, Butler who has his mentality and like you said that pit bull underdog mentality they and they it would have been it would have been sweet by now I think we all can agree with that. But with his mentality and the way he steps on the floor and plays he has these guys believe it, and then that's the one thing about it that always gives them a chance as the way he presents himself on the court every night. You're on the underdog team of all underdog teams in the finals. My thing is this is at Miami. He just even the culture of the Miami Heat and the Miami City. You have Miami has like the GLITZ and the Glamour of La you see South beach you see all but there's also another part of Miami that people don't really see that often, and that is the hardworking the grinded out the people that really represent. The true force of that city, and that's what this Miami Heat team is. This is a team that they have a little bit glitz glamour but really they are the working class like everybody against us, and so that's why I'm. If you're a Laker Fan, you should be more nervous about this game Bam out of byles back he had a game underneath his belt. You Know Duncan Robinson you saw how well he played once-banned came back so i. think this is going to be by far the toughest game and I think Miami Heat have their best game also I ever feel better here you got all three guys. Guys up or feel a wonderful wonderful. Let's go he. Still Call it the post Renault stood of Pat Riley concered use. That's what is still about. Amazing Rick Thank you so much for joining us everyone out there stream the new album during this quick break. When we come back, I'm forcing Scotty Vinson. Richard to make an actual pick not just all this nice talking actual pick no hedging for tonight's game. We'll do that when we come back. The jump is presented by the new X. PS there. Jane. Every little thing is everything. And impart by michelob ultra get your michelob ultra could sign tickets by tweeting Hashtag oh drug cord side. It's time for this week's ultra moment brought to you by Niccolo Baltra zero, the rookie with toby. Chance for. Confident in t was born. I. Love His. Activities. Game Five of the NBA Finals Tonight Nine, o'clock eastern on ABC deport is and the Lakers looking to clinch their first title in Ten Years Coverage Starts NBA countdown and I will be on the sidelines as well. All right guys let's wrap things up with a finals round of Jump Ball Scotty. You're a ten time member of the all defensive teams just going to say that again, ten times who will have the bigger defensive impact tonight Anthony. Davis or Bamn Bio. I really think it has to be bound Anthony Davis take off. He's still got two big seven photos over there but I think it has to be Bam Bam has to own the paint I think he has to have a monster game I think he has to have his breakout game because he's yet to have his best game in the NBA finals compared to what we were accustomed to seeing in a regular season from him. trying to think. I'm. GonNa say Anthony Davis. Surprise. Change I I like look I'm not going to disagree with Scotty Anytime Scott says something else you have to take a second to be like I'm not going to disagree with him. Here. Let me word this carefully. Well, I. Think. I'M GONNA say Anthony Davis for this reason, we've seen him having to guard Bam out of bio we've seen him now make the adjustment guarding Jimmy Butler on the perimeter. So I think Anthony Davis is going to be in the has the opportunity to have the biggest defensive impact in this game for that reason what we saw him do against Jimmy. I got a definitely agree on this one and. Mart No. Good. Call I. Got It no I think Bam he he it's imperative for him to have a defensive. Showing tonight, particularly guard Anthony Davis but. They will they in him guarding one through five when they can switch pick and rolls when him they know that he can contain the dribble. From a guard or small fort or guard the Post I think tonight like PIP said, he has to put his imprint on this game tonight defensively or they don't win. Yes. We talked about Jimmy Butler having a store offensively, but they have to stop somewhat someone and we know the Lakers love the pick and roll. And you can put in the pick and roll to switch and hopefully have these guys take contested jump shots over him. Now, that's going to open a rebounding. Another that's another whole. That's all different situation. Vince you got it right at the beginning when it comes to especially anything about defense agree with Scottie Pippin. That's just that's the answer. We're about five hours away from tip off. So Vince you stutter sof who you got tonight. Or Heat. I'm going to go with. The ads the same. The Lakers quite like all right. What do you think Scottie? Over the heat. As I said, I think the heat has yet to play their best basketball in this finals and I expect them to do it tonight I think tonight is the one game has the least amount of pressure. So I think they're going to play well tonight. I think the heat sees everyone packing up in this place i. see the I think the heat see everything being done I think they see the emails of where to send your stuff and having all of your stuff pack and I think the heat have have spent this entire postseason. Proving everyone wrong and so I believe that the heat will win tonight but I think the Lakers win it in six. That's my opinion. So don't ask me in six WHO's GonNa win already told you. How well we'll see we'll see what happens. Tonight. I do want to get to our buzzer because the NBA and the Players Association announced the NBA. Foundation Board of directors, this is comprised of eight representatives Michael. Jordan one of the members here all eight including commissioner silver head of the MVP a Michelle Roberts. The goal of the Board of directors is to work directly with all thirty NBA teams and their governors to support and facilitate sustainable initiatives in team markets Richard there has. been a lot of talk over this bubble is this action something that you like to see always huge because we talk about NBA family so so much and that means there's players there's referees, there's NBA entertainment there's you know the media side. So to see that. So much of the NBA everyone's coming together figuring out how to move forward as a unit that is something that's very special and the players asked when they did walk out in the market Bucks Latte lead that. Ownership buying and now they haven't all right checkout game five tonight.

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 1 - Vince Carter (11-02-18)

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 1 - Vince Carter (11-02-18)

"It's all about me. Dan, patrick. There is more where that came from click back for new episodes all week. Log to lots is Ron down by is lost somebody who's somebody. Chedda bodice fun. Somebody. Alexa, play hits from Queen. Okay. Amazon music voices. All you need get tens of millions of songs. Download the Amazon music app today. Broadcasting from members eighties men cake. This is Dan. Mehta Joe Friday, and it's a meet Friday at that. Welcome to the program, Dan in the Dan Patrick show. Vince Carter will join us coming up in a little bit here. Vince, getting ready to turn forty two in January still dunking. I don't know if it hurts more going up or coming down for Vince. But he'll join us coming up a little bit. We'll check in with Tom Verduci. The great baseball writer and broadcaster with Fox Sports illustrated, the futures of Manny Machado and Clayton Kershaw in Los Angeles. We'll discuss that coming up as well. Your phone calls are always welcome eight seven seven three DP show. Your Email address is DP Dan, Patrick dot com. And your tweets at DP show, say good morning to direct TV the audience, don't work. That's channel two thirty nine. You'll find that on direct TV and NBC sports network and our three hundred thirty six radio affiliates around the country, the raiders got torch last night, thirty four to three who said playing quarterback in the NFL was diff. Cult come on down. Nick Mullins undrafted free agent out of southern miss starting for the Niners. And all he did was compiled the highest passer rating and a quarterback debut since the merger in nineteen seventy. Now, I can chalk up this to the raiders incompetent. Or maybe the brilliant play calling of the head coach of the Niners Kyle Shanahan, probably more entertaining to look at the raiders incompetence here. The bottom line is became out of nowhere and played. Well, three touchdowns. Look like he'd been playing at this level one few years national TV that's what makes it even worse for the raiders. It's one thing to lose. And you lose an anonymity. But then all of a sudden you're propped up on Thursday night on FOX, and it's the bay area. And here we go and you got a third string quarterback. The raiders are favored biggest goes. Hey, let's change the line here raiders got to win this winter, right? No. Garbage time came early in the bay area this year. I'm sure the network executives didn't want this game on prime time. But you gotta love seeing an unknown guy coming out of nowhere, and they don't come any less known the Nick Mullins, but give him credit. He salvage what was otherwise a forgetful Thursday night. But a lot of fun there. The interesting part is how the NFL and raider fans in particular reacted to this Twitter was pretty rough with Jon Gruden and what's the plan here? I do think he has a plan. He was given ten years, but he had to know that he was going to invite criticism with that contract. He knew it the plan is if you're moving on from Khalil Mack and that contract Amari Cooper, you can get a first round pick everything is geared towards getting Vegas and hitting the reset button. I said it from the beginning. That's what John's doing. He wasn't gonna spend the money on klac didn't think that the team was ready to compete. Okay. Don't lie to us and say that hey, clo- MAC didn't want to be here. Because colo- max approach was the same as Aaron Donald. It was two different approaches here with what the Rams are doing. And what the raiders are doing because the Rams are all in it. And the raiders haven't been Amari Cooper, ship him out. Get another first round draft pick. You got three first round draft picks coming up because of these trades everything is geared towards getting Vegas. What happens? In the meantime, because I'm gonna guess Mark Davis. The owner of the raiders said to Jon Gruden, hey, here's the deal. You may not want to go to Oakland for a couple years. You may want that fresh start with Vegas, but I want you to go to Oakland for these first couple of years got a bite the bullet here if Mark Davis has that much insight into this. But hey, gimme two years here. Because on the other end, you're going to get eight years in Vegas, and we're going to change things where the Vegas raiders. It's. Gonna be different. We're going to be a young team fresh probably have a young quarterback. They're not Derek Carr, and you can build this team in your image of what you think is going to be successful here. But John's getting his lunch handed to him. But he can't be reacting. You know, you're in the media, and you can't be going. Hey, stop criticizing me give the game plan. Then you don't want to be criticized than at least say, hey, this is what we're doing. I hope everybody understands this. I'm sorry, Oakland. I'm not going to give you good product for the last two years that we're in this great city. Sorry, we're gonna wait and get really good when we get to Vegas. But you know, they'll be some nice deals on flights to get there or you can drive there if you want to but it feels like that's what the game plan has been all along. Here. Didn't want to criticize his team last night that they didn't quit. And I they didn't play. I mean, I'd rather that they he said they quit, then at least there's an explanation like the Niners out talented you. Yes. But what does the move to Vegas require completely dismantling playoff-caliber teen? I mean, there's only two years ago that they were in the playoffs. Yeah. But they weren't good last year. So I think I think what he was looking at is. Are we going to be able to compete with the likes of the chargers? I don't we didn't think the Broncos would be this pedestrian and you have the Kansas City Chiefs. And maybe he was just looking at it and saying do I wanna pay that money for Collo Mak? No all I'll pay that money for maybe a great quarterback down the road. But John has a history of doing these things in his different stops. But I I don't think that he thought that he had a great team when he went there. And that's why he traded away more Cooper. But I think they did a great job trading way, Amari Cooper. And I understand the climax trade. If you think you're not going to be good the next couple of years. Why am I gonna pay him that kind of money when we're not going to be that good? Apple. But how do you get smoked against a quarterback who's never played regular-season professional football before? Well, that's the big question in trade away. Everybody they had eleven guys out there and defense accounted. I was looking at Charles Robinson yahu sports at a column, and here's the title NFL. Should be alarmed that raiders are disintegrating under Jon Gruden. I'll pick it up with the last couple of paragraphs. Charles Robinson of yahu sports says the hype machine was cranked up promises were made big talk was in short supply. So there's no getting out of this. Now, gruden's not quitting with so much money, and is football reputation. Squarely on the line Davis isn't firing him and the league camp back out of Las Vegas. That's just over the horizon. It's only for that reason. It's time to hear Mark Davis step up and speak. He owes an explanation to his bay area fans. He owes a plan to a Las Vegas community that can see the glow of this garbage fire from thousands of miles away. And he owes something to the NFL team owners who bought a promise that the greatness of the raiders is in their future right now only a Las Vegas stadium is promised in the raiders future. The greatness has been lost. And someone needs to explain how the worst team in the NFL will change that by twenty twenty. Righty now. I get it. I get that. There's a plan here whether Jon Gruden can orchestrate this plan, and you know, see it to fruition. That's the big question. I have. But I do get what he's doing. And I don't think Derek Carr is going to be as quarterback by the time. He gets to Vegas. You know, beast mode will no longer be. I mean, it's going to be a completely different roster there, and they'll probably be the youngest team in the NFL. But when you give somebody ten years. The whole lot of freedom there and a whole lot of money. And if you're Jon Gruden you got time, but you're gonna take the slings and arrows here unless you start letting people in on what is going on disk. Gimme the game plan at least in Philadelphia. The seventy Sixers let their fans know this is called the process. There's going to it's going to take some time. But in the NBA, I can get one or two lottery picks and change the fortunes of mine tire team. That's not the case in the NFL, and you're going to have to change entire attitude here because that looked like a losing losing attitude last night. And I you know, when you say somebody quits, it's probably the worst thing you can say about an athlete if you quit. They just don't look inspired who would have thought that Jon Gruden is not going to have a team. At least look inspired like wanting to play member when Ohio State played produce fourth quarter. I gave up twenty eight points in the fourth quarter. That's when you shut it down. It may be it's not we quit. It's just you know, what let's we'll we'll save our energy for another weekend here. But with what I saw that the raiders last night. You know, those players look I would rather have a team go down in flames who looked like they really playing hard. They cared instead of that. Yeah. Nick Mullins look like Montana. It's like a, you know, younger teen, you know, like a teenage version of Joe Montana last night. I mean, come on have some pride there. Yes. Mclovin. You might even say looked as good as Jimmy G. Even better the Montana that would be, you know, an interesting dilemma, if all of a sudden, Nick Mullins is is real here's an undrafted kid out of southern miss and everybody missed on this. And now all of a sudden, you know, you're going to have this guy may be legitimate. And then you know, they play the giants next and count Shanahan said, he I'm gonna give them a chance, you know. Maybe he starts against the giants. I mean, why not? Let's see what you have. You might have something. Maybe there's a, you know, a silver lining to the injury to Jimmy G Mullins is the third player all time to throw for two hundred and fifty yards or more and three touchdown passes. And no picks in his NFL debut, the other two or hall of famers, Fran Torkington and Jim Kelly. Today's the day that best dad of the day stat of the day. Comes that. What stat of the day? But there should be an asterisk by Jim Kelly's name because he went out of college to the USFL and then went to the NFL. So he might have been twenty five or twenty six by the time. He did it. But you know, Nick Mullins who knew now everybody knows this is what I love when you see something like this happened. Somebody will say, yeah, I saw him in southern miss. He looked like he had all the attributes of he could be a starting quarterback in the NFL than anybody twenty four hours ago. Say hey, I know who he is in big, you know, what he could probably be pretty good. All I know is he had one great game. And I think Brett farve talked about it. That's the only way I'd ever heard of him. And I do watch, you know, non traditional football powers occasionally. So, you know, Louisiana Lafayette, and some of those teams I think that was his last game the last game. He started prior to last night. He faced Louisiana Lafayette. Yeah. Sure. You would expect success last night? Yeah. Paulie? If you're Nick Mullins agent you want him to starting another. Game this year, or do you want that to be the only thought of the free agents teams GM's league? So he could be the next Matt Flynn. Yes. Oh god. Can I guess he could get hotter than this? But he could also cool. I think you need to I need to now because you can't fool a member. Matt Flynn had one good game where he threw for four hundred yards. And then Seattle went, you know, radio Gaga all over him. And then went, hey, let's bring him in. And then all of a sudden quickly went to Russell Wilson there. Man. Get another one in there. Then all of a sudden CJ Beathard comes back. Yep. Oh, yeah. Matt Flynn in two thousand eleven had one start for the Packers. Is that against a Troy? Yes. Thirty three or forty nine sixty seven percent five hundred yards. Five hundred eighty dot net start but he finished that season in spotty play five games. One. Start sixty seven percent five hundred eighteen yards. Six touchdowns. Two picks in the outrage. Yep. He did almost a quarter million of you have downloaded the DP show lap. We've been talking to fans about how to make it better. And it's a cool redesign? We have download the DP show podcast directly from the app. Listen online off line, and you can also do this. If you have a meet Friday song fun video or photos, you can now upload directly to the shows app. The app is the best place for the livestream of the show. Catch daily interviews. Watch the app exclusive content. The all new redesigned DP show up. Download it today at the app stores. All right. We'll get two phone calls here. We're going to go with a raider related poll. Question law. We have a radio related one. And we have you can only watch one full question too because it's a big big football weekend. Okay. We'll have that after the break and the great Vince Carter will join us coming up as well. Coming up on fifteen after the hour. This is the Dan Patrick show. 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Download the Amazon music app today. Phone calls are welcome eight seven seven three DP show. Mclovin is pondering a poll question here. Dan, Patrick show. Brought to you by the twenty eighteen Reseda AM, GE classes, suite of innovative technologies. One of the most intelligent cars on the road. Go to MB USA dot com or busy local dealership. Schedule your test drive today. All right, mclovin. What do you have for me before the polls? I wanna go off script and ask you a question. Okay. I was watching some MBA last night. And I heard two different crowds. Chanting MVP one for Joel Embiid and one for actually kyri Irving unless I misheard it. Okay. Is this a premature MVP can't games in the season? What are you doing fanning MVP? Yes, it is. Why that's a new thing everyone yells MVP. I'm gonna start doing it when you're shooting in the man cave. Okay. Yeah. Kyrie's averaging seventeen points again. Yeah. We're there's no MVP there. Okay. Raiders poll. Question is Derek Carr the quarterback in two thousand twenty when they arrive in Las Vegas. Yes. Or no. I'm going to say, no, I'm going to say, no. How about two thousand nineteen? That's another question. Give the raiders think that he's not the long term solution. Why would you wait? And maybe go for quarterback now. Well, you have to get the quarterback you want. Plus, I would think once you get to Vegas, and I've got a rookie contract. You know? Now, you know, we can we can bring in some people coupled people if we need to if we feel like we're growing into a playoff caliber team. But it feels like that's the logic that Jon Gruden has its you know, what we've seen with other teams in Seattle. Got there became successful in almost a dynasty there. Because of Russell Wilson's contract. I mean his abilities but his contract, and I think that's what the raiders are going to do you're going to get a younger quarterback who's cheaper. And then you're going to be see this is the problem with the Cowboys. They have Dak Prescott contract. They haven't done a great job around that contract. That's would Seattle did as well. Or better than anybody in getting talent. Yes, mclovin. I keep reading people saying this year's at quarterback class may not be. The answer. I don't I don't think it is. So next year's has some stars in it. So if you're the raiders, so you might have the number one pick you have to jump on the best guy available to be you don't know if you're gonna get the number one again, well that can be dicey too. Because what are you using that number one pick on unless it's a quarterback? Are you gonna use them on a defensive player or a a running back? Right. It's a huge defensive line draft. A why are you gonna take a defensive Tacna if you're the worst team and you have the number one pick? And there's no quarterback that you think is ready to help you or I get the feeling that you know, they would try to trade out of that number one pick. If if they have the worst record in football. Yup. Yep. On some scene said earlier, why do they have to stink this bad the raiders before they go to Vegas? Do you think this could hurt them? They're trying to sell PSL's and seats and all this stuff. If I'm rich guy in Vegas by pointing up for a season ticket now two years from now while watching what I watched last night. Yeah. Because I think you're it. If you look at it from a like, a reasonable perspective here standpoint, they're they're getting their worse to get better. Yes. He I I see I would say that a reasonable perspective is they've been terrible for fifteen years. And then they finally had a good team like, whoa. All right now, we're turning it around. We've got all of these pieces. Why are you getting rid of all of them? Well, you're bringing in Jon Gruden I wouldn't have fired Jack del Rio, but you know, they had Gruden. They finally convinced him the money was right? And so you're bringing him he wants to have a team that looks like his team. And I think that's why you're seeing this. It's kind of you know, when you're slowly disassembling something. As opposed to take in, you know, the explosion where you take down an entire building. You know that this is a little bit slower in what they're doing dismantling this franchise. But that's like one of the biggest mistakes that people make in any walk of life or business is when you get a job and all right? Let's just blow out everybody and start over instead of seeing what's actually working here. Well, I think grew knows from afar what's been working? There doesn't seem like it. Now. I think he's got a plan. I don't know if he can carry it out. But I see what he's doing. I just don't know. I think it's really really really difficult to try to do what he's going to try to do in. That is I'm going to get rid of some popular players. Some good players. We're going to get worse before we get better. And that's kind of difficult if you're raider fan saying, aren't we gotta watch this garbage for the next year and a half. But they've been watching garbage whether they are loyal. They are loyal. I mean, so that's the way I feel like if I was a raiders fan, and we finally. Had a twelve and four season got him. I phantom it's finally paying off all of these years of being terrible. And now this coming in and deliberately blowing tanking everything. Just so they can move the team there if Jack del Rio was still there, then they wouldn't be doing this. Forget it. They wouldn't be doing this. But Jon Gruden says, hey, you wanna give me ten years? Alright. Gimme two years in Oakland where I give me the benefit of the doubt. And then when we get to Vegas, then you're going to see a better product there. At least you hope. All right. Eight seven seven three DP show, Email address GPO, Dan, Patrick dot com. He's Vince Carter the hawks guard slash forward and joins us on the program. Vince, good morning. How are you? I'm doing well. How are you doing? I'm doing. Okay. Are you football fan? Oh, yeah. Did you ever play for him? I did I was a quarterback. Whoa. And running back and receiver quarterback wait where you're running back wide receiver and quarterback at the same time. Vince were you that good one point at one point? But mo- an a kicked extra point. And I was a snapper. In one year, but most of the quarterback as taller running back with a great idea. Decent. I mean house play varsity. And until I got a broken wrist in a in a barrel basketball game and the doctor. This is high school deductor since we had to make a decision on a sport. Because of just a lot of pounding basketball. Of course, they have football because what football is going to do to me and may decision. I think you did too. But I think you'd be great on blocking extra points and field goals. I'd think oh for sure that's a amid a living out of that to everywhere. Man back in the day. In fact, as young young, Vince. I was around the field of playing defense. Back there. Yeah. You know is one of those things pop one football was or does things you get as many athletes as you could just teach them a bunch of positions. Obviously as you get older, you kind of fall in place to a position that is comfortable or that that works with your Europe, Bility's and. Over the quarterback position is something. I did that plays. What's the most point scored in high school? Basketball. Yeah. Fifty three quarters in that's eight minute quarters. Isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. But when you see something like Klay Thompson the other night like how many points? Do you think he coulda had if if they just said, you know, what just go go get him? Clay. He was probably paste it to put up a little better eighty point. I think it could. I mean, like I say he could be more because the way he was shooting three point shot. It was like shooting mid range to. You know what I'm saying? It was just amazing. But who do you think would be the warrior if I said you gotta pick one to get eighty in a game. Ooh. I mean you have to give declare right now. Because he has a record. He gets the first night. What was more impressive? The only reason. Why Bill that's what I'm gonna say that now 'cause Steph is definitely capable. But we have to take right now the record and he doesn't have the ball for. I mean, everything is catching shoot it put me directly. He doesn't feel very long, and it's impressive. He doesn't need. A lot of triples to kind of get a shot is just if I see a clean, look, let it go. It's impressive. What's what what's more impressive? Do you? Kobe ending his career with sixty or Kobe putting up eighty one on Toronto. Oh, she's. Some if you're gonna go out and injure career. You know, he maybe he said, I'm gonna go get sixty tonight. Doesn't matter who it is. I don't care how good the defender is. I'm getting sixty on my last game. That's amazing. Eighty one is amazing. In itself. But I think when you going out with sixty. On your last game. Aren't good? Do you think the hawks would let you go out like that? Vince. It's it's you know, they weren't going to the playoffs. The lakers. It just depends on what the situation looks like in. If I'm in a rhythm. If it is like that. Yeah. Maybe but I doubt it. I mean that feeling of when you get to shoot whenever you want. I mean, that's a great feeling. That's a great feeling. I mean, you can shoot yourself in rhythm at any point. So you can start off over eight and. Still. Shoot. I mean, just that's great. Yeah. That's great. Surely. All right. If I gave you the opportunity to write the final chapter here. So the final shot you take in the NBA what kind of shot and who's guarding you. My final set. I hope nobody's guarding me. Well, no, you're gonna make that you're gonna make cool. You're making. Ooh now. Guys. I wanted to be a really do. And who you don't get over or. Oh, man. You're you're. And so when I go out on it. Yeah. Thanks for me to be great to see. Either dunker game winner, I'm still if if it's a dunk I want to be by myself. So what about it gets hurt? So what? And it's a game winner. You know, went to go out on probably. Probably dirt. 'cause he's right there with me too old guys. To sink one game winning fade away or something three. Yeah. Over my man. Does it hurt more going up for a dunk or coming down from dunk? Definitely coming down like you. It's not bad. Like, I couldn't get and you and you're up there. They're like gravity time. But this is your friend. But when it's had enough and kind of disrupts you airs, it's now time for the sake ABS overs that's have or do not have to take over. And some days are better than others of. You know in recent years. That's why when you talk try to hold on just to. Make sure to landing little. But the way the game is now the pace the place. You can't do that. You know, the the longer you hang up there. The team is probably at half court on my land, though, is now is like, hey, make sure you get the to get on back. He's Vince Carter the hawks guard forward. Now, I was gonna wait to mention your age you brought up your age. So you're forty one you'll be forty two in January, right? Wow. Forty two. If man does trae. Okay. What what is trae young call? You. Oh, so he doesn't go like most of the time every now, and then he comes with OG, you know. All right. But he could be your know. You know, he could be your son crazy. Wild. Do these guys. No one within now. But do you show them before YouTube video and just say just a reminder here you little punks? They see. And like, you know, sometimes, okay? I I remember when you did this success. That's it catches off guard. But at this lets, you know, like, you know, there is hope for these kids because they're basketball fans, not only are the owner just for social media. They're you know, they look at it watch. They watch the history of basketball, you know, I've been around. So I've played against hitch a lot of history of basketball, and you know, and I've done some things for the history of basketball. So these guys actually watched that because they loved the game like that. So I it's pretty cool. When one of these young guys will say something about what they remember from back in the day went either they weren't alive or just being born. And or just like young kids. I mean, some of these kids like some of the guys that some of the things that I did they were really two three four years old and probably wasn't paying attention or remember the game. But they still watch those video clips thank God. In April to put those V8.'s VHS games on an HD where still looks decent. Would you? You know, what the growth of the the three point shot? I mean, you know basketball is changed here since Steph curry came into the league. But if you if you were coming in now, what kind of player would you would you be the same player still? I still think I'd be the same player. I, of course, more than likely utilize the three a little more. But I mean, if I was young Vince coming into this lead. Now, I still would I mean attack the rim and. Do what I do. I mean you, and I believe in you when you have a player. I mean, I know the bid rains game is obsolete in something that you don't. Teams don't really use or want us. And I I wasn't like I didn't use a mid range game bet much. But I mean, it was just something like I wanna get in the paint. I wanted to just. Attack the rim and the three point shot or something I did use. It just wasn't used as much back in say this in the late nineties in in in the nineties at all really, you know, it wasn't used talked about as much, of course, three point shot you run you ran plays for it. Because you have the great resin Miller rip Hamilton. Well, he's more mid range and those guys like that who were staggered away threes. I mean, that's that's what they did. But it wasn't like now you have your running plays where you'll you'll post up a guard just to get the center a three point shot on the weak side. Now, I mean, it's just different game. Crazy. I did you walk with tiger. When he was at the PGA championship. I did how come I did. It was great. I that was that was my really my first time seeing tiger live of we we started off my early years. We had to save age. It's just every time. He would play, you know in Orlando. He had his tavist dot Cup and the played Landau. We were out of town. So I didn't get to see them play there. And it was just a great opportunity and nothing better than the see of here at east lake competing for a win. In almost really pulling it off being the champ. I mean, it was just it was amazing is amazing. I was at definitely insane mode that day. I tried to play a cool. I yeah. You know, it's tiger school. But it was just it's amazing to see somebody in you know, in the field of and you all know Tiger Woods. How gradients when you watch it on TV when you see something like that what he did live in understanding how impactful that was I think you'll when you're pulling up on. Eighteen and seeing that crowd follow him. And I was already on the green that was greenside and you. Like everybody. Nothing like mad you where is he? All of a sudden Tiger Woods just tiger. Appears I out of this crowd. It was it was it was a commercial in itself. Yeah. It was a crazy crazy scene crazy scene. I'm I'm wondering about this. If if Jordan is the best player you've played against is that right? Right. Yeah. Okay. I did play against your okay? This is second best player. You played against is who. I did play against Kobe Bryant and LeBron James. So I mean, I think right there in I mean, I don't really have order. I think in Jay's there, and then you have. Colby and probably the second best player. Lebron? I'm it's hard to pick players for for me personally, because I'm still planning those guys, you know, and I just want to playing or I'm done playing it. I can really add other players current players. So I'm just going to stick with LeBron. I mean, I'm gonna stick with Mike. And then Kobe Kobe wanted to kill you. Right. He wanted to kill everybody. Absolutely. Absolutely. And we played together. And I think the company level competition and respect our. We spent players back. It's particularly back in that day was not given in respect at all. And and that's that's how you understood. That's how that's what made great basketball first of all. And you do when you play Kobe. Whether you weren't having a great day weren't feeling. Well, you know, you better figure it out. He was going to be an attack mode on both ends. And he made a great basketball. I think saying things with Ingenico. I don't care. How old he was? He was still putting up numbers and for as many players like myself young guys cold everybody, stack all of Dart's t t MAC everybody who wanted that opportunity to really make their Mark on nj. It wasn't as easy as you thought. He and he was forty forty. I mean, I don't know if you remember play he caught raw Marceau's, layup off the glass and. It was just amazing to see them. Just a great challenge. It I can say that I've played. Meet of the in Michael, Jordan. I mean, all star Atlanta his last all star game. I was a starting guard and I had a wreath. I don't wanna call it argument. But we were just talking about. Hey, mike. You know, this is your laughing Sark gave you're starting no questions asked. And you know, Mike was like, hey, man, you earned it you go ahead. I was like man, you're not getting me black golfer NBA, and it was just great to be me. It was great. It was a great moment to be a part of though because I that's like a piece of history for me, we remembered as the unbelievable fade away that I felt that we should have ended the game right there that he hit oversight of areas, you know, what his last all-star game. But it was just great to be a part of. Okay. But wave injury in the situation that do that if Mike went to NC state or Duke instead of North Carolina. I mean, he's still be the greater okay? Look at look. But would you have given him you're starting role in the all star game? If he was okay. All right. Well, you have to because I mean, his body of work and the pedestal that he stands on demands it demands it. All right. Here's here's the question. I'll leave you with this. The greatest slam dunk or in North Carolina history is. In North Carolina. Oh, yeah. I'll take that. You take a day every day. He's got everything else at know your while there. Yeah. He's right there. I mean, that's I mean that just walking you know, into that. Jim that's one of the things I think every player will say this, Jim escorts the first person. I think every person look for is Jay, and we know what he did in college. And of course, in the NBA, and he's ability don't so I said, you know, ended up being the greatest player or as good as him. But there's something that I could do that kinda. Have people thinking, hey, maybe maybe? And so that that contest was one of the things that you know, I watch studied. We've talked about this. I think a lot of times person on the phone is that don't cut. This was kind of like my over to in time where I said I'm going to I wanna watch after world and while while the crowd for years to come. I just didn't know it it it's have it's like it's head, and you know, I'm thankful for it. I still wish you would've taken that music scholarship to thune cookman and plan and played basketball for buffoon cookman instead. How about that? Yeah. You had to go play for North Carolina could've cookman yet. I mean these. Hey, I have a scholarship is or whatever. Yes. So let's no I'm going to bet soon. Cook on taking my talents to thune cook MAC the street in around the corner sorry being Smith legend, Vince, good to have you on again have fun this season. And always appreciate catching up with you. Always man. Good talking to you. Thank you, Vince Carter. We'll take a break. Our play of the day is coming up next these days. News travels fast, which is great. If you're a sports fan between status updates breaking news. 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"Thank you for listening to this. Podcast one production available on spotify apple. Podcasts podcast one dot com in anywhere else you podcasts. And now early. This pair is the rich. Eisen show live from the rich. Eisen show studio in Los Angeles. Baseball cannot throw its hands up and say we're not playing because we couldn't figure out the mind the rich Eisen show earlier on the show. Mlb Network reporter. Tom VERDUCI coming up senior. Nba writer for the athletic. David Aldridge foxsports rules analyst. Mike Pereira was from TNT. Snow Piercer actor Michael Malley and now you're rich is everybody. Were here lot in Los Angeles on a Friday. The Rich Eisen show coming your way via as always noon to three eastern on Sirius. Xm Channel to eleven or YouTube dot com slash. Rich Eisen show is our livestream and we say hello here for the final two hours of our show as always to our friends and colleagues and fans who take us in on NBC. We say A Good Friday to you and before I introduce my two guys across the aisle I just WanNa say this off the top by setup something similar or at the very part of our program you know. We're we're always trying to be as cognizant and aware as possible what goes on outside these walls and whatever it goes on outside these walls and what we might be able to do to serve those seeking a break from it And we've been on every single weekday since the pandemic hit. 'cause we made a collective decision here on the rich. Eisen show To comment and also be wise when we go home and trust one another to do the right things and stay as healthy as possible for our families as well as for our viewing and listening audience and now I guess we're going to start to do the same with what's going on in the world and certainly places like Minneapolis in Louisville of Minnesota and Kentucky and for those out there in need of a break and those out there who are seeking justice and peace and hopefully finding it fast. I WANNA say we're thinking of you and we're with you so I just want to say that As we start the show and I turned to Chris Brockman Anniversay. Good Friday to you could find to you Mike del Tufo Good Friday to you or I could say good Wednesday good Monday because I do believe you wore that same pullover on both of those days of this. It's cold in here. I changed his shirt. Good to see both of you. Rich Bud all right eight. Four four zero four riches the number to dial. We've got lots of time to take your phone calls Don or EP. Put up a pup for everybody who we've got here coming up over the next couple of hours. David Aldridge is gonNA join us from the athletic my colleague from ESPN way back. In the day. I did a lot of Tosses to David Aldridge's reports many of them covering the Chicago Bulls in the last dance. He was all over that documentary. And I'm wondering wh when we are going to hear something from the NBA about return to play. There was a been a lot of chatter that June one would be the day and that is after this weekend June one would be the day that Adam silver makes an announcement of return to play. Here's what it will look like. We already heard from the NHL This Week. What it would look like maybe. Nba will do that before announcing the when we're all hearing the where could be Disneyworld. Which obviously would dovetail with one of its television partners business interests in Disney. So we'll see how that works. David will join us then. A couple of Mike's Pereira and o'malley Pereira the former head of NFL rafts. Now Fox sports rules analysts will join US and Because there's lots of talk about rules that were passed by the NFL. Yesterday rules that were withdrawn prior to the NFL voting yesterday rules. That were tabled the difference between withdrawn table. What the Hell does that Mean Pereira? Who's been in a lot of these meeting rooms with coaches and general managers and owners and competition committees in his time being the top Zebra and all the NFL land. He will join US and Chris Brockman. He will join us from the water the Water. He is going to be fishing really. He's going to be fishing is he. You asked him when he agreed to do the show last night via text on Mike. You sure the phone lines going to be fine. He says the signal strong he was there already. That very day is he. West Coast or east coast west coast fishing. Knock on wood. If you're with me. Thank goodness that was grateful dead. West Coast Fishing Ph is the fishing. And then Mike o'malley will join us He is in the new. Tnt hit show snow piercer. He's also a writer and producer of no. He has worked with Lebron James on television projects of note and he is going to be joining us on this program and lots talk about with him. He's also if you remember back in the day the rick from ESPN commercials to announce is how long ago was their websites though great their websites creation ninety nine and then when ESPN plus was created. Recently they brought him back. The Rick came back and he doesn't look like he aged today and he's still fits into the same. What is it a is it? A Ray bork sweater. And he ever saw number right now. Yeah I think it was just a regular bruins sweater right and the red sox backman socks had women in his garage. I mean just the greatest man the greatest so at any rate he will be joining us. And He's also a youth baseball diehard here in Los Angeles area he is. He is the one of the guys to go to. If you want your son or daughter to try baseball and say what's a good league. What's a good spot? He's really just a dynamite. Individual amazing really is so he'll be joining us later on this and this and this program eight four four two four riches the number to dial so you know in the same way that we're going to be having an exit interview with the David Aldridge for the last dance. This'll be our last last dance. Exit interview we talked with. Ahmad Rashad afterwards Rod Thorn. Afterwards we talked with will perdue during and we talk shack afterwards but though he didn't really sit down for the documentary but we just wanted to get his thoughts on it. We talked to Charles Barkley. We talked to Bob Costas Andrea Kremer. Lot exit interviews. David will be joining us. But so we like to put buttons on things right and with the last dance when it was going down one of the many reasons. I thought why it was so popular is we were able to plug it into some real time. Real live current sports conversations. Sure WE RE litigated the Dream Team and Isaiah Thomas and other issues that Horace Grant would probably be at the front of the line to voice but current issues like Brady leaving New England that dynasty dynastic pairing of Brady and belichick breaking up and why even though it lasted almost three times as long as the Jordan's dynasty dynastic run. I guess if you want to go from ninety one and ninety eight like an eight year run check and Brady lasted twenty years. By the way you're and it's like how come you couldn't go along twenty years twenty years and another another conversation that this plugged into was Jordan. Loves DRAFTING IN GREEN BAY planning for the end of a ron or as Brett farve appeared on this show a few wednesdays ago? Getting the wheels turning in Aaron Rodgers head to maybe speed up a departure because at some point out to find out who you have what you have in Jordan love to either flip them. Allah Garoppolo or flip rogers off for Rogers so we heard from farve after the drafting got his opinion on it said he spoke to Rogers who any termed him saying surprised he said. I don't want to share any more of our conversation. I'll just say he was surprised. Then I rodgers spoke a few Fridays. He goes sort of like a Friday news. Dump met met with the media and he turned himself as surprised and handled it. Totally first-rate class. Act Not Jordan loves fault you know but it does what he said he said something along the lines of how it it messes with the controllables. I guess in a way exit controllables less able to control whatever we've now heard from that leflore. The packers head coach made his first public radio appearance. And he did it on. Espn Wisconsin and asked about the maneuver and how to interpret the packers decision to select love. He said the following it was just one of those situations where there were a couple guys targeted that had just previously been picked and Jordan was the next guy on the board so we went with the best player at the time. The old best player available now that well I mean they. Could've you could've been sitting there on board. The question was they. Were sitting on the board deep down. The they moved up the board to go get him so you could have said. Hey you know Brandon I. You was somebody we could use. We could've popped up to go get him. He was top player on our board. But we just stayed put of all the people trade up to go. Make sure the best player on your draft board was going to be yours. You couldn't wait. Had to be Jordan. Love it just doesn't it doesn't it. Doesn't pass the so-called smell tests and I'm not saying that he is being shifted at all because he he was flat out saying that he and Rogers talk four times a week whenever we get those opportunities to meet in those individual meetings and I feel really good about where we're at. We both understand that. This is a business. I totally believe that. I think he in Leflore could be fine for sure that when they're in the proverbial football foxhole together this fall knock on wood. If you're with me that they'll be able to dial up. Plays dial things up and rodgers will definitely look at him. Potentially it's on occasion and think this is a guy who is the man the buffet at Lambeau Club that he is planning on. Never leaving right and so he might use it as fire as far of suggested. And certainly if you read between the lines of what Roger said but you could sit here also and say well your draft. Board evaluation had love that high. You couldn't wait five more spots. You want to run the risk thinking that somebody would trade up to go get him from where you sitting in to move up those spots and then there's this comment as we are looking at the screen of the rest of the draft him mentioning. Espn RADIO WISCONSIN. That when asked about areas to improve upon twenty twenty. He said one area. We really need to improve on his creating more explosive plays. We WERE PRETTY EFFICIENT. But we were twenty. Third Explosive plays that starts with play. It's on him. And maybe take a few more chances to help generate those plays down the field seats on him. There's no lie matter the floor but you want to look on the screen and look for those explosive play guys that they might have gotten the the one that might be. The most explosive is a guy who's not gonNA have any chance of starting for any time soon potential. Ha Dylan might have. Some explosive plays in from Boston. College aside Guevara's at tight end who they're planning on using a US check fullback type role. I mean where's the explosive plays coming from when you add. They boast deep wide receiver draft around Matt. Leflore call the rich Eisen show. I've got questions you've got answers didn't draft wide receiver. Those leaped out at me. God it top players are top player. Our board we just went with the top layer on the board. The problem is where you were on. The board wasn't where you were originally slated to draft. You had to improve that position specifically to match your board with the reality that you didn't do for the kid that everybody adored and sitting there on the board and then explosive plays you want explosive. Plays than drafted right. The guys were right there just waiting now trae and and again come on. I'll just I'll just relitigate this. Since that's the word we're using is still running. I think he hit his head on the goalpost moments ago in the field of genes in northern California against that packers defense that they could also used to improve right there. And if you beat this team in the air with a big chunk play then the packers will we losing to the same team again and the guy that they could have gotten? They moved up. Maybe because I'm assuming if you're looking at the draft board guys that they had I. They had to avoid this kid. That's why Zimmer. Yesterday I tried to get some fun with him. Head coach of the Vikings that when you moved out of the twenty fifth spot the trade down to thirty one so San Francisco could go get this dynamic receiver potentially sparking the packers to move up to go get Jordan love. 'cause I was gone. And that's now created an issue at the quarterback spot of your we assume main rival for you in the NFC north. What did you think of that? And he's like they don't WanNa play. Rogers I mean. I think that's the most fun bulletin board thing that you could get out of Mike Zimmer with a question answer crowbar like I attempted yesterday all that stuff just kind of left out at me. Christopher you know as I expected I I'm not by color me know that. Hey look man it now. It's it's something just to keep an eye on. Don't forget that team even with the issues in the chunk play department and Matla floors first year. Coaching that he raised his hand and say the play calling might have been off. That team was still one Jacob Hollister inch away from scoring against the forty niners away from being the one seat in last year's. Nfc Ploughs so maybe they could do it again. Just got to beat the forty niners when they face them and Green Bay faces the. Let me see right here and the second Sunday in November. Oh my goodness gracious. Look at that on Sunday night football. I'm a pardon me on Thursday night football short week boy while they Green Bay at New Orleans on Sunday night football week three Green Bay at Minnesota. Come on packers one one in three before the by come on now by the way one and by way the packers could start one and eight far set if it starts. Owen three CS Jordan. Love starting right now. That schedule is really hard. Speaking man. That's that was the one most eyebrow raising comment far had when he was on our show a few wednesdays ago that I even would disagree with but I think he would know how Green Bay fans react and media. Reacts a lot better than I would if they go and three the discord he thinks could go get ugly fast and suggest Jordan. Love even getting out there. Look at those first nine game and by the way the game against Atlanta. I've got something to share with you. About the Atlanta Falcons and a dream. I had overnight by the way and for the long term fans of the the second dream I had about the Atlanta Falcons in the history of this number coach I dreamt I was their coach. During training candidates phenomenal we Dan. Quinn almost made it happened correct. I brought it up Dan Quinn talk about psychotherapy and being need. So it's David Aldridge coming up next from the athletic what do we expect from the NBA? And when Mike per and Mike o'malley the final hour your phone calls as well at eight four. Four two zero four rich. The Rich Eisen. Show live from Los Angeles on NBC. Send all right. Everybody knows I nine eight Games guys. Come also rough one in seven. Can you put it up again? Donna and we confirmed yesterday green. Bay's never started a season at Minnesota the reverse has been the case but never at Minnesota to start season. She come right out of the box man. They'll say they'd beat the Lions Week to either. The lions the first half of the season last year. You never know or staffer got hurt. He was nominal season at New Orleans on a Sunday night. No chance now again. You have to understand that. There could be a quarter of fans in the stadium. I if there if we're lucky. But if they're pumping in crowd noise. I don't know how what they're gonNA do the. Nfl has so many weeks to figure this thing out then home for Atlanta on Monday night in front of who knows who's called that game for ESPN as you know. I still think it should be breen. Could be me the guy we. You're if you're a packer fan you signed for two and two. Yes you signed for two and to win win when the Games at home. Lose the ones on a road. It's one in three. Let's say those explosive plays. Aren't there yeah. Lax Not doing anything Jordan. Loves NOT READY? Jordan loved Steph? Louis Jordan debt Jordan. Loves DEFINITELY NOT READY TO GO at Tampa especially if the J. J. WATT? Who says that he wants to prove it like? Don't even talk about contract with me. I want to prove it. It's time to place some tag. And then home for Minnesota at San Francisco. Holy Crap the bucks or four four and one start the air and then the one three. Oh Baby Holy Crap. They could be two six the first nine games you go arts David Aldridge will be. We'll be getting him on the phone hopefully shortly And then we'll take some phone calls and and whatnot you're on the rich. Eisen show Mike Pereira and Mike o'malley. Yeah let me now. Now that my phone is on frozen. You got something over there. Okay unfrozen caveman phone. Okay Yeah Unfrozen Caveman phone. Let me get where Pereira exactly is. He is a reservoir water fishing boats. Or is he just? What reservoirs You Land Reservoir. Mike Police chief used to do it all the time. Your land fishing. Okay as land fishing. You 'cause they might not let you on a boat. It depends if it's private or public. Okay find as alleged. That's amazing I don't know I checked it yesterday. I'm good. You know him Zang. I'd check the spot yesterday. We're good so for four to four rich number to dial. Call it folks. We'll have some time to take your calls here on the rich Eisen. Show do you own or rent your home. Sure you do and I bet it can be hard work you know what's easy bundling policies with GEICO GEICO makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home go to Geico Dot Com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. It's gyco easy visit. Geico DOT COM. Today that's Geiko DOT COM G. I. C. O. DOT COM eight four four tool for riches. The number two down Chris Brockman. Do we have a poll question fashioned over there at richeisenshow you give me the look of you. Don't have one. That would be so disappointing to me. That there's no question doesn't show. There is nothing really good on the day calendar today and I don't have one you don't have one now okay. Real good. No no celebrity birthdays. I did have an interesting conversation before with Adam. Callscreener yes Today's Carmelo Anthony's birthday today. Okay and You know that's been made about his career in the last couple of years. Whose career would you rather have Carmelo? Anthony are Vince Carter home and no championships for either. Both kind of dynamics or Carmelo mellow one one in college. Well yes but I'm and he's our greatest Olympic performer but no NBA Championships. Which one would you choose because I go vince really. Yeah that's kind of what Adam said to the last few years you know. Vince is Kinda just playing on the rosters. Averaging like we used to seeing Vince Carter Take Anthony. His peak was a little bit better than Vince. Carter both hall of fame players. But they're Chris off Apropos. Nothing birthday today. Oh well happy birthday to him. How many how? Many years thirty six for thirty six years on any man. I feel so damn tell me about it. And you know it's funny I couldn't have felt any older watching the last dance as we know. I snuck in there and episode ten with my my my hair my flowing mane and some people like Costas looks the same David. Eldridge's same thing. Look the same from the athletic. The Dave my friend David Aldridge. Da richeisenshow show haven't aged day. Da Not a day Richard. It's good to know that. Utd isn't working very work on contracts definition definition is standard. How are you are you? Well everybody in your family well I hope David Mocking on would here. Well yeah I mean there's no covert stuff there's some other stuff but that's You know it is what it is Dealing with something so But so but nothing with regard to the virus so that's at blessing with older relatives especially And you know just trying to. Oh I don't know navigate these unchartered water. No I understand. Do I understand again I came on the air and I said I hope everybody seeking justice and peace finds it immediately And I'm assuming that's what you are referring to and It's just you know I guess for the purposes of this show. It's just another reason why You know I think people seek out. What maybe we're going to be talking about in sports world and and the last dance was so successful to just lose ourselves And forget about what's going on outside. David Yeah Yeah. Yeah it's hard and it's Part of I wrote today That it's very difficult right now for me to be You know all about sports you know. Sports is important to get back and open everything up. It's very difficult to have that kind of discussion right now. You know With everything that's going on in our country and I understand believe me what. I'm sure you do too rich. We all understand that sports are important to people. F- Dos there. How we made living. You know what I'm saying like I get it I understand. We've made a living covering sports for very long time. As if you and we get and we know that it's important to a lot of people it's important to us right. I mean it is I want. I want sports to come back Certainly and I want the games to come back because I do think it will help. It will help a lot of people But I know that it's also you know there are people who aren't thinking about that right now. I just I would just like people to Be Cognizant of that. No that you know entertainment and distraction and all those things are not things that everybody has and the front of their consciousness right now. I understand we can all understand that that will go a long way toward a lot of different things. Well then. I'm particularly thankful of you taking the time today to call. I wasn't addressing. You know and I I didn't. I didn't take it at that but I just wanted to at least acknowledge in and and in respect what you've just said. Oh with at least me saying that you know I appreciate that very much. So it's hard it's hard right. There's no question about a David you know and and again that's why. I'm I'm appreciative of you calling in David Aldridge of the athletic here on the rich Eisen show. Where where? Where do things stand best? You can tell Because we we we did hear from the NHL This Week format man. You're seeing baseball. Having all sorts of collective bargaining arguments. It seems That's bubbling to the surface. Where where are things with the NBA? It's Union and an announcement Or for readiness to to play again. I think the the the the NBA Union situation is much better in terms of cooperation with the league than the baseball unions. Is I mean that? That just seems to be Spiraling you know out of control in Baseball The the Basketball Union is is working. Pretty much channing. Love League I mean is a literally a joint committee. That's trying to come up with different scenario. They're not anywhere near finished yet. But they are working together. You know The the Union is basically signed off on you know Orlando as the site of a playoff tournaments however whatever format that ultimately becomes The the baseball the basketball players put money into escrow For the use of the owners in case the season were to be canceled for whatever reason? that so that so the owners have some sort of financial certainty in terms of their losses. Being you know stanch somewhat right For the rest of this year So there and the the biggest thing riches that both the you know the players and the owners both WanNa play. They both want this to continue. They want the season to continue and they wanted to conclude with season. Play and having a champion so my experience with the League over many years is that when the players and the owners both want something happened it tends to happen and so I think that's why you know. There's there's a lot of optimism boring almost uncertainty that there's going to be you know a resumption of play at some point. We've probably in July. That would last into September at some point before concluding with the finals. Any idea if it's a two city to hub city or one hub city. Anything of that. I think right now I mean I know there's been talk about Houston as a possibility but I you know I know that that You know Bob Eiger has been pushing very hard for Orlando and Disney world and again I think the the players in the main and you're not gonNA hundred percent support on anything but I think in the main most most players most of their agents There are some age is still holding out from Vegas for different reasons But most people are all pointing in the direction of Orlando. Now you know what's again. The shape of that will be determined by how many teams are in the tournament. How many regular season games you play. Do you play all those regular season games. IN ORLANDO. Do you play them off site somewhere else. You play another city. That's another city comes in but I think the Coalition Behind Having Your playoff tournaments with however many teams qualify in Orlando has pretty much been signed off on by the all the all the important parties in well. I'll tell you this if I'm a player with family and I got kids and I want to bring them into the if you to use the phrase bubble community Disneyworld wouldn't be a bad place if everybody can be let me know. They're safe kids. The kids can do that while while dad tries to win. The Larry O'Brien trophy. I mean that that would be something. I be more inclined to do attempt. Yeah it's a and that's part of it. That is definitely part of it is that there's just more for family for the families to do for the for the for the kids to do For even for the players to join days and you can go play golf in. Orlando you know on an off. Day True On one of their eighty seven golf courses right you know whereas Vegas you know. It's not it's not that Orlando hasn't hot in the summer is not that. It's not humid his but it's not one. Oh seven like it was yesterday Las Vegas you know what I mean insurance that. You can't go outside Las Vegas in the summertime. Just cats you know like there's not much to do Doesn't give you you know heatstroke so you know I mean you've gotta you know so that's where I think a lot of people are leaning more towards Orlando Than Vegas Vegas. Subways probably has more experience and would be easier to control a hotel or at least they a chain of hotels. You know if you had the wind encore if you had Mandalay Bay and you could probably control that a little bit more but there will be far less for families to David Aldridge senior. Nba writer here on the rich. Eisen show and so what about the format or are you hearing? 'cause you know You you already here Some like Steve Kerr seen. He's figuratively on a beach right now. That we're there. And then you hear Damian Lillard and I think he's every right to say I I don't want to leave my family and my home or even bring them across the country. If I'm just playing out a string like you put me in a term where I've got a shot where I can I can do my dame time stuff then I'm in Where where does that stand right now? Do you think David I think if you you know to. To kind of you know generalize in terms of where they are. I think more people want more games right. So my guess is you will have some sort of tournament type of playoff format. Where whether it's one team whether it's two teams per conference and you wind up with twenty teams in this thing or you come up with some way where everybody's involved now. I'm not I've been asking a lot of people the last few days. Well Golden Faith already been eliminated from the playoffs how you eliminate especially by the way the most the most dangerous fifteen seed in the history of fifteen exaggerated Klay Thompson healthy right. But you're not get it. Look I know you want compelling programming to lay off again you want you dying in the playoffs. I get it. You know what I mean by There's a basic fairness you get. It's not like you played five days and then you shut down. You played sixty five. Okay you blame. Most of the season you played eighty plus percent of the season all ready so there has to be some sort of fairness regards to that those that percentage of the season meaning. Something you know doesn't have to mean everything but it should mean something right. I think there's a I think the argument of the Milwaukee the world is somewhat compelling. We did play a lot of the season. We were really good for most of that. Yes we should be able to take some of that advantage to the post season and I and I tend to agree with that so I think it will be. I don't think it'll be all thirty. I just can't see that I don't know how you can other than other than than playing those five seven games at the you know to get to you. Know they have obligations to their local. Tv markets in their local TV partners. So everybody's gotTa get to Seventy Games So that they don't lose more money you'll so you'll do you'll you'll do that right. So all thirty teams will play to get the seventy. But how how you then say that. It's okay for Cleveland in New York Golden State to compete for a championship. This year Steph. Just doesn't seem right to me. David Aldridge here on the rich. Eisen show on a few minutes. Left with you I've I've been conducting last dance exit interviews for a lot of people who now that now that it's all in the books Did you learn anything watching I? I can't say I learned anything and that's just because I'm old and I was there some up. I saw most of it. I mean you forget something. There's that's a different. That's a different point. Like I just forgot that Rodman just went to Vegas in the middle of the season right about that. I didn't remember that. I just forgot that he in the middle of the finals just left to go. Wwf and it just it just kind of reemphasize to me. You know what? I think a phenomenal job Phil. Jackson did coaching three years. Because it could've gone off the rails a hundred times you know So you forget things that happen And I'm just what I felt branches. I'm just glad that younger viewers and younger people who like the NBA. Now you know fans under forty who weren't there or they were infants when when that was going on. I have no recollection of it. I'm just glad that they have some sense. Not only of how good Michael Jordan was. 'cause he was that good and you remember he was that good. I mean that is. We're not making that. He was one of the greatest players if not the greatest player. Voltaren right but how competitive and dynamics league was in terms of the rivalries Passan's and the hatred and all of those things that's those teams had for one another and how compelling that Meza Games and so it wasn't and what. I'm what I'm trying to explain to people that you know. Eighty five eighty four could be a hell of a game if they really hate each other and every possession is a battle. You know to be like this. I mean it's not just about it's not just about you. Know shot efficiency all the time you know part of why some of US older people really came to love the NBA was because the competition was so visceral and real you know and and that and that made it compelling even though they didn't score a hundred and fifteen points every game you know like it was still really fun to watch those games back in those years slowly. It was me too and I do remember part of the conversation being at the time and this is legit and now you look back like what the hell are people even saying like. Yeah but the western conference was so weak when Jordan would just win all the time right and then you saw and you also just saw to the the the the the people who he beat he beats magic he beats Malone and Stockton he beats Barclay and Phoenix. He Beats You Know Reggie Miller on the way he beats Patrick Ewing every single damn time and then he beats Gary Payton in the sonics when they were terrific. And then you see you know the the Pistons. Ooh He couldn't beat to start then he'd vanquishes them on the way and the number of people who every single time. I'd sit there. I'm like you know what every fan base is GONNA get. There's during this ten part documentary. Every fan base is GonNa get theirs and then they showed the trivia the number of sixty teams Jordan in the Phil Jackson Pippen Bulls eliminated numbers at seven of them sets third number and absurd and Shaquille O'Neal in Orlando. He wound up. Taken out to you know I. It really was just remarkable in that regard. But Oh my last one for you here. Was there a story? You told Jason Hare the director that you thought man. I would have been great if they if they aired that that we didn't see that hit the cutting room floor. You were in the middle of Sony Great Stories from the the forget. I guess slight that that Jordan created His name escapes me. The kid from the The Washington that Brad Bradford Smith Smith just do you were you. Were telling all these great stories. Was there one that you you told that a man. I wish made the final cut. I'm you know I a couple of people have asked me that rich and honestly I. I was surprised I they use me way more than I thought storyteller. David Your it well. Here's the thing I get. I was one of the latter interviews that they did. And that's a couple of a lot of resilience couldn't find the time at work for either of us for a long time and so I thought and I'm not and I'm not being like self aggrandizing about this at all rich. I thought okay. They've shot you know they've done a lot of interviews. They've got all the take that they're probably going to. You know they're gonNA but there'll be and you know this being television you celebrate you have to cover it with something you can't you can't show blank screen. You have to cover it with something so I thought okay. I'll be the guy that fills in the gaps. This up. They don't they don't have to tape up forever resides. You know what I mean less. So I'll be that guy and I'll be in like two or three times of course and you know what I was. I'd be fine with that. You know I was kind of expecting that so I was pleasantly surprised us. Most of my soul David. If if you if you were a role player a bench player for the last of any of the microwave. Johnson you were I mean. You're Steve Kerr one of those guys. I actually it more than I thought it was. I was I was a pleasant surprise was happy with Can't complain about it was great. I really the whole thing from soup to nuts was was wonderful and you know at least at least what they did use of you. You didn't wind up on an IPAD being handed to Jordan. Because you didn't want to be one of those people in the last thing. They want to get the market laugh. That's the last thing you want to be on one of those ipads Jason Hare handed brought. George say thank you. Thanks for the time Daniel. Yeah you don't WanNa be that. Thanks appreciate the Term David Pleasure. Always a pleasure thank you. That's David Aldridge. DidN'T WANNA be that guy out you're on an IPAD again. That's the extra WANNA see. Maybe we should get Jason Heron. One more time right. I love enough of your phone calls. Eight four four zero four rich when we come back here on the rich. Eisen show and I had a dream that involved. The Atlanta Falcons again. Then oh goodness crazy. That's coming up. You gotta move on gotTa move on on right by the way you have that. Drop ready because again. I don't know why I have got admission when I sleep a little weird but you know what to tell you a good chat with David Aldridge. He's been there now. You've got a wife and kids. Okay so imagine yourself with another child. Yup I shouldn't. I shouldn't ask you this question because you got a little baby right now and I know what you're instagram stories account used to look like store chains between Vegas or or Disneyworld to go play in the NBA as your bubble city. We're going to LAS VEGAS OKAY now. But you'd have to. You'd get your own casino. Is that what you're saying you get your own Jordan? Just give me a wing just one on the wing it but it's not in. What if they demand you play one hundred two hundred? Broccoli works in play one or go to be? It's going to be Brockman horseshoe with a little then grabs her downtown Mt. Yeah it's awesome the draft just Kinda realized. Who the hell am I ask God come on? Now he's GonNa go on Mr Toads wild ride yet. No we're we're we're few but if you've got if you've got if you're one of the NBA players on the up and up and you've got a wife and that's all you have just a wife and two kids. If you're like Chris Paul who's got a family career. You want to go dizzy. Lamb straight where. I'm going to practice and I know I know it's clean. It's safe and it's just you know maybe for an NBA an NBA part of the park or like creating even the curry's who have three young kids. I don't you think the curry's would want to go to like. Hey while I'm practicing. I'm winning or I'm attempting to win. I know that my kids are when there's no school because school's out for summer. There's no filming. There's no remote learning. There's not of this right so I'm sure Bob Eiger he's involved. He will roll out the red carpet. They'll be a lot of passports to fund given to the NBA. They're not staying at the contemporary looking. Do you own or rent your home. Sure you do and I bet it can be hard work you know what's easy bundling policies with GEICO GEICO makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go TO GEICO DOT COM. Get a quote and see how much you could save. It's gyco easy visit. Geico DOT COM. Today that's Geiko Dot Com G. I. CO DOT COM podcast. One is home to our podcast. Listen subscribe you can catch all three hours whenever you want with your ear gate to use the Michael Irvin phrase. I've never heard anybody else used that. But he uses that phrase about listening he calls it putting it in your ear gate You can do that with the rich. Eisen show eight four four two four rich number to dial. We'll take your calls in a second. It's it's quite funny. That Brockman My my man Brockman my friend my producer across the aisle who got a lot going on When you come here you got a lot to do. But the poll question at Rich Eisen show is in. Your in your purview. Didn't have one kind of made one up on the spot. Based on a conversation you had with Adam are callscreener. Because it's Carmelo Anthony's thirty-six birthday and so you know what did you talk with them about? Who's career would you rather have Carmelo Anthony? Your Vince Carter's because I guess Vince would be the closest to a contemporary event equivalent to Mellow College. College career no NBA Championship. Long career. Vince one with Carolina. Don't believe so. Let me tell you stood out there. Advertising show whose crew would you want? And you remember Vince Carter. Did he did? He leave a series plus get the knicks to go graduate. I think he missed a playoff game. You missed a game to go graduate and I remember the reason why that was particularly big on. Espn is because Stuart Scott delivered. The commencement address. When Vince Carter walked which I know Stewart got a huge boost out of just speaking to a graduating class North Carolina. What a Hugh I mean. He was walking on era. Remember that that was the one where Vince walked. He gave he gave that speech so our poll question was based on. Just you know you didn't have one now. It's pissing you off because because you're syracuse suspect for Carmelo. Anthony is outrageous on this poll. Vince is up eighty to twenty right. Now wow okay so here now. You Vince. Cars. A cool dunker. Come on so my. I guess the moral of the story would be if you don't want to be outraged by poll question cal with a better one. Yeah I got a little bit better. Speaking of which I had. I had an a moment this morning. I woke up Mike. Did I really dream that last night? I did. I wake now on about you about during during this pandemic my dreams have been particularly vivid and crazy. Whatever it's been way for you folks at home but a few years ago obviously pre Cova nineteen. I had a dream that That I was the head. Coach of the Atlanta Falcons and I was coaching them. During training camp. It was a few was after Jim. Mora was let go and Dan. Quinn was hired there and they went with Dan. Quinn Maher and I dreamt that I was the new head coach there or co head coach. Dan Quayle and I told him this when he called into the show and he invited me to go to training camp and I almost made it just for various reasons. I couldn't make it to during the summer because of what was going on with. Nfl Network. I couldn't get there and then this show. There just was impossible to make it work. But he would have given me a whistle and a visor. I would not have done the pull up. White Sox all the way to my knees. The way wouldn't have done that. But my Dream last night involved. The Falcons is that I watched the Falcons they were taking on the saints. Okay and this is just shows you? How need football I? They're taking on the saints and they're going for to for the win. They flipped it out to Devante Freeman. Who's not even on the team anymore? And he was tackled for a five yard loss and they lose and I wake up and I thought I literally thought this myself even in my dreams. They don't use Julio Jones when they should I swear to you? That's what I thought even in my dreams. Julio Jones didn't get the fifty fifty ball for the win and I thought maybe part of that is because I was just thinking about this fourth and fifteen play being fifty fifty ball away from teams maintaining possession in the in in crucial spot in the NFL. And that's called fifty fifty for a reason the reason why you call a football that's thrown up to somebody who's like six foot five or can leap tall building in a single bound at the wide receiver position. It's a fifty fifty ball because it's like a coin flip it's a fifty fifty shot that your guy gets it and plus there's also shot that the other guy could get it to so you're flipping a coin is to who gets it and if the on side kick is a ten percent chance you can do the math about a fifty fifty ball the differences because a fifty fifty ball could be brought down all of a sudden. It's a better shot than an onside kick. I'm literally thinking this stuff and I'm trying to put two and two together. I have no idea why. The Atlanta Falcons are on my brain. Or the fact that it would serve for me to mention it here and tr- troll on the fact that they never use Julio Jones inside the red zone you do have a strange obsession with Matt Ryan and his name. Brits you gotTa move on gotTa move on. I try to nickname him. The Natural Mattie is is just not acceptable. When was the first time you came up with the match relied on? Podcast saying is eight years ago more than that. It's to be well again to me. It's you know natural. Light Beers are so old. Why are we taking a nickname of the beers that he's supposedly used drank or like to drink or were invoked to drink when he was great in Boston College? Why are we still using that for this guy? He's he's a grown ass man with children. He's a grown ass man with a super bowl appearance in an MVP award does not need to have a nickname based on a a light beer. Like it's it's lame. I don't like it. I think it's it's old and I know that what I make is a joke calling him the match based on his first name and I know I've been pounding that into the sand point year old movie offer. I get I get it. So you're saying the movies and older reference than the beer itself exactly. I mean. He's not call. Home Citizen Matt Seventy Year Old Book. I mean what are we seeking Brockman? Eight call them. Look Mattie Cabernet or something if you're trying to class up the joint that makes no sense. I don't know what you're talking about. Baddie cavern my favorite moment. Though in the history of this is keeping on asking him so he tells me to move on right but then I offer the nickname to I believe one of his best friends in the NFL in. Stafford you move on offer seconds and then of course they offered it to Patrick Mahomes for for the pattro texted you back laughing. Ha ha ha. No I think that's terrible. Wow three-strikes it's over more. Just there's three outs and inning. As far as I'm concerned you can match shop. He doesn't have a nickname not yet. Okay Henry in Wisconsin. Let's take your phone call here on the rich Eisen show. It's Henry well. Thank you for letting me talk. 'cause I gotTa Lot to say okay. I got about two minutes to the timeframe of. I'm a fifty year packer fan. Okay Sir. If the packers lost three in a row we'd be screaming for two. Gm's had that's what we'd be doing this fall. We have the same quarterback we got a quarterback and says he wanted to retire in Green Bay and this guy the draft choice. I Brown is crazy. I'll tell you another thing that's really bad. The second round draft choice running back. He's got he's got him so he isn't going to have to pay jones the seventeen or eighteen million dollars a year that he's worth and if he does that packer fans are. GonNa go crazy. We'RE NOT WE. Don't sit back you know we're mid West people but I'm telling you we are all packer fast and we're not GONNA put up with this guy he's GonNa be gone. Well let's just put it this way. We'll see if AJ Dylan can actually give some more depth to the position that perhaps you didn't have And we'll see what to Guarico due to because if he can play a US check role that will be helpful. I just think they need some more wide receiver help. And they didn't get lawn and pick up Hopkins I who knows if they were in the running for that. It's entirely possible that they were. We have no idea why he went to Arizona. We have no idea what happened there. I don't want to request. But they also don't they they add the you know if you're going to pay somebody it's going to be devante Arabs. You know and you already talking about not wanting to pay Aaron Jones paying paying restructure his contract Rogers contract you need to. You can't do it with one wide receiver. How about this then? Let's just say this and I appreciate. I appreciate the call Henry and I love the passion right there. How about this? Let's be more positive. Let's be more glass half full. Let's say Aaron Rodgers is usual Aaron Rodgers season and this team? That could have been the one seed if not for bounce the ball here or there Is going to be better. The problem is I think the forty niners are too and you could go from one year to the next and say there's no correlation the forty niners last year is a perfect example but San Francisco's that much better. They got better in the draft in a manner in which the packers I don't believe did but we have no idea who these kids are and what they can do. And what the drafting of Jordan love might light a fire inside Aaron Rodgers. You could basically say I'M GONNA turn this kid into Garoppolo just like Brady did. So we'll see can't wait to chat with this man. Mike Pereira talking about the rules changes that were made and not made. That's coming up. Hey Hey this NFL. Hall of Famer. Ray Lewis I'm excited to announce the launch of my new part gas every day greatness. Ray Lewis podcast. I'll be talking with friends. Family members ole teammates athletes celebrities moguls. And guess what I'll be talking to you. Listen this is all in the search for every bed greatness. 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Vinsanity: Is This How Vince Carter's Epic Career Ends?

ESPN Daily

00:00 sec | 7 months ago

Vinsanity: Is This How Vince Carter's Epic Career Ends?

"They're going to give a defense. He's GonNa take three Vince. Carter leaves the floor heroes. Well they got the gay and a great way to end this Vince Carter. It is twenty second season berries. The three that three pointer taken right before the NBA suspended season could be the final shot of Vince. Carter's career its journey that spanned twenty two seasons eight teams in countless electrifying moments. But if it ends now how will we remember his impact on the game today? Jackie macmullan helps us take stock of a career and a player who never want a ring but outlasted everyone. I'M UNICOM'S IT's Friday April tenth this is Espn daily presented by ADT. Jackie the early ending potentially of the NBA season could also mean the end of one of the longest runs in NBA history. Which at this point is perhaps the most remarkable thing about Vince? Carter's career right. I mean the fact that he's forty three years old he still playing as not playing for great teams so I wanted to start there and ask you a simple question. Why well it's a good question and it's funny because if you go back the fact that this dude has played four decades and played above the rim and then learn to play below the rim. Because that's what I always look at okay if you're a high flying guy and you couldn't do that anymore. Well why are you still playing? Disowning love to the game in respect to the game and the players that played. So that's Kinda why still do it? There's a certain small small number of guys that have incredible Immortal Street cred with other players and he's one of them. You mentioned him to younger players and there is just explode. Can you put in context? How unusual it is that he has played for twenty years. Well it's incredibly unusual because it's taxing game. When I knew I was going to come on this podcast with you. I happen to look game. Seven of the Eastern Conference semifinals which. I'm sure we'll get to but the reason I looked it up because I was curious. How many minutes he played in that game he played forty eight minutes in that game and he played during an era where you played forty plus minutes when the games were important. So that's why I think it's even more remarkable that he's been able to spend four decades because he played during a time when the best players played a lot. So in the intro mentioned that that might have been vince. Carter's final shots a three pointer for the Atlanta Hawks in overtime. What at the season been like for him and his team before that moment. Well it's interesting. They're they're interesting team. I'm sure they're disappointed. Travis Shank has one of the smartest Johnson the league he learned under the Golden State. Warriors Franchise drafted well brought in some really good young players and sprinkled in some veterans to teach them some things. Hence why Vince? Carter is on that roster. Remember I told you before about young players is exploding trae young as one of those players. Because I asked him out to me I still see DECISI. The highlights crazy events has been a true G. for me he's been a guy can lean on. If I have any questions I can go go to him anything. I ne- I can go to vent so and I'm sure he's learned a lot from him but they underperformed if in fact this is the end of the season for them. Now I'm not blaming Vince. Carter for that but I would say that as a whole I think he envisioned being the iota to a bunch of really sharp. Young jet is that we're going to shock the world and it didn't go that way even so even though. The hawks have been disappointing and people thought there would be good. I don't think they were pegged as a championship contender. Not even a playoff team. No for some people. That's what's confusing right about Vincent. Some of these final years. It's not liking. He's ring chasing. I mean he's not playing on excellent teams right. I want to say man and forty-three I've no I couldn't do it. I wouldn't attended so he must love him. I mean the four-decade thing is cool. He's the only one that's done it. The thought I always had was why not go back to the raptors for one last dance now as constituted there a championship contending team even with Kawhi Leonard Gone. So maybe there was no space for him. I just always thought why not go back to where it started where the wounds have been healed to some point really because that that is the sports writers. Fantasy what you're describing crisis poetic for him as you know. Our fantasies never are in line with the people that actually have to fill for us. Tom Brady's on is do. We have to go there again place. We will not talk about Tom. Brady the bucks on this episode. Jackie Vince announced going into two thousand. Nineteen that his twenty second year in the NBA would be his final season. Which you're going to you got you got another run. I got one more time. You got one more time out three years ago. You told me two more years two years ago. You told me two more years now. We're getting back. We're down to one. I met this one. What did you think when you heard that? Well you know what I thought was wow. Here's a guy who everybody seems to really really like. Who's a good teammate? Who has a really fun? Exciting highlight player. And Wow he just never got a chance to even reach for the brass ring. I think he got to the Eastern Conference finals want. It felt like maybe Vince. Carter's career should have been a little smoother than that was. That's what I was thinking. How has he adapted because playing for more than twenty years the NBA doesn't just saying? I want to play for twenty years. And it's not easy and you alluded earlier to the fact that his game has evolved as well. What has happened there you know. In his early years he was a highlight donkey machine. All the way back to high school this gung man. It's going to North Carolina. The McDonald's all American game dickey won the slam dunk contest. And he was just one of those Dominique Wilkins kind of players. Wow in you with athleticism. I always thought he was a much more complete player than maybe people gave him. Credit for is just so much more fun to see him flying through the air and doing three sixty don'ts and weaving the ball between his legs and Dunkin it. I mean all the things the rest of us just dream about in. What ways would you say? His career is sort of a microcosm for the evolution of the game itself. That's wow that's various media. Thank you very much. So because although the game itself we know now three pointers are what matter. We still value athleticism in the NBA. But we know it's fleeting because we have a long line of bodies that tell us that but I think to just to be able to handle yourself with professionalism to be able to be a positive influence in the locker room as opposed to a divisive one. Your career is going to last a lot longer. You mentioned you know he sort of this locker room guy this iota. Now you've been around him a lot over the course of his career. What is he like? It sounds simple and I don't even know this to be real because I've never been with Vince. Carter out on the town or I don't know a lot about his personal life but he's just one of those good dudes at least from my perspective from a guy that you had to cover through the years. He was respectful very intelligent. Very perceptive very intuitive and emotional I loved the emotion when he was young and he he'd lay down those Jamesy do his own little version of the Shimmy. He's also very private right. Yes but isn't that so smart? He learned to be that after he had a very public event of course when he went back to graduate from North Carolina because he promised his mom he would do that and he did it on the morning of game. Seven of the Eastern Conference probably not the best day to choose but of course. You don't choose these things they just happen. And I think Vince Carter thought he was a little more multidimensional than guy that could just slam a basketball through rim. I think he thought of himself as a very intelligent African American Man. That could make good decisions that he was more than just a basketball player. He was involved in his community. And those things that are important to them and I think he thought he'd be applauded for that and it's still one of the great debates if you get into a room with ten people it's probably going to be split five and five on whether he did the right thing. Let's talk about that moment and history in the NBA. After the break Lou coming up the most controversial moment of Vince. Carter's career Jackie. Vince is a household name now and has been for a long time in fact since I was in junior high but new C. Did your eyes explode when he saw me tell the truth tell the truth what? I see in the NBA. That I ever get to be. But when did the basketball world I get a hint of who he was? I think probably in North Carolina and of course anyone who goes to North Carolina is always GonNa be compared to Michael Jordan. Very unfair comparison of course. But I think you saw some of the explosiveness of Vince. Carter all backed them. He was such an aggressive player. Man This guy goes to the hall. He has going for it. No regard for his physical wellbeing played with a real flair. That I I remember at the time. Thinking was quite striking here. Just announced that. I'm making myself Elliott Wolff in the NBA draft. And hopefully I'll be affected playing. What did you think about him ending up with the Raptors? After of course he was initially drafted by the warriors. Just remember thinking I wonder why gone state wouldn't take a chance on this guy. He seems like he has a chance to be special. I still think if you asked me name the one player in Toronto Raptors history now of course Kawhi Leonard will steal that now. But you know Mr Raptor before Leonard. Winning that championship Vince. Carter is the person that came to mind and yet he didn't really play there a very long time. If you've just brought so much excitement to that franchise. He had a chance to be the face of Canada in the basketball world. Well Vince really exploded around the world in the NBA. Dunk contest in two thousand. And of course Paul Kennedy spent that he has gosh no ever seen on. Here is my favorite. Everybody has their favorite mine was when he went up had his elbow on the rim. Like almost like he was sitting there drinking a cup of my favourite British. Tease fresh fresh. Oh yeah and I think I'll slam the ball to that was my favorite one. So it wasn't long after that that he had what was probably the most controversial of his career backing it up. When Vince was drafted he said the day before I left to go to college. A mother sat me down. He basically wrote out this contract saying that if I left early to go to the NBA. I promised to go back to get my degree. I said sure where was I? Flash FORWARD TO MAY TWENTIETH TWO THOUSAND ONE. He is graduating from UNC. The ceremony happens to be the same day as game. Seven in Philadelphia against Alan Iverson. And the seventy sixers craze. Just crazy. So everybody's thinking well all right. We know he promised his mom but he graduated. Is that good enough. Does he actually have to go to the ceremony? Mom wanted him to go and I think he wanted to go. I think it was important to him. So let's just think about it. This is the biggest game in Toronto Raptors History Game Seven Eastern conference semifinals against Allen. Iverson one of the most incredible talents. You can think of and your very best player. The more you knew that game dressed in a cap in a gown and a pair of those really uncomfortable dress shoes that no one should ever wear. And he's getting his Diploma in North Carolina. Now the game is in Philadelphia Pennsylvania. He Walk to graduation his Mama's there now he's got to get on a plane and fly back and he arrives just afternoon time to his destination. But everybody's wondering all of that motion on a day where usually players do a walk through have breakfast. Turn off their phone taken out. What will this mean for the Raptors? And how will it affect? Vince? Carter and maybe if he had known at that moment that it was going to be the biggest basketball game of his career maybe he would have made a different decision. I always loved it. I've had play arguments with my colleagues and friends about this. I loved the message. If you WANNA talk about. What a lot of his teammates were doing the night before that game or the opponents were doing the night before it again. Come see me what he did seem a lot pure a lot safer a lot more noble than what they may or may not have been doing the night before a big game but because of the results everybody thinks well he made a mistake quarter traffic and go back and look at that shot. It's such a difficult play. He gets the ball in the corner. He does a little pump little double pump and he's got tyrone hill. Who by the way was very good defender flying right at him and he missed now? Did he miss because he went to Chapel Hill to attend his graduation? I don't think so in the heat of the moment. Great Athletes Elite Athletes Stars. They're not tired in that moment. They're not thinking about. Did I do the right thing? All they're looking at the rim and thinking. I'm going to make this made my decision and I was gonNA stick to it and I was right decision because if basketball didn't work from two thousand one on graduate and do it again. I think the time there was a thought. Well he'll be back the raptors. We'll be back. This isn't the end of this but then obviously it didn't go that way. I mean what were his next few seasons. Toronto like well. There weren't that many. That was the high point for at least during the Vince Carter regime. He started the injuries that I mentioned before he was struggling a bit. He had a very now. I guess infamous interview years later with with John Thompson talking about. Did you give your all of that? Franchise and John Thompson wasn't questioning Vince. Carter I think he was just trying to get to the idea of what it's like when you're the superstar and all eyes are on you and you physically are struggling and then you're expect to carry this team that had made some questionable decisions that hadn't given you perhaps the supporting cast that you had wanted. You know he was at odds with Richard Petty Not Richard Petty the race car driver petty. Pdd who was in charge of the raptors then. They did not see eye to eye. And Eventually Vince. Carter ends up asking for trade. The fans the fan base. They were never going to forgive him. He also dominated in his first game back right. Oh it was unbelievable. Because he's a great player. It's so he was rejuvenated in a new spot. The spot that he left new. They'd gotten fleeced and they were angry and they took it out on him. And then this idea that maybe he hadn't given his all while he was there. That's the most unforgivable thing of all so after an signed with the nets is when he of enters that final phase of his career. Although I see final phase it lasted a very long time. But he becomes the crafty veteran right. And how does he start contributing at this point? Well it's kind of interesting. I think it took some awhile for him to get used to what he should and shouldn't do that. Maybe going down the middle of the paint and trying to jam on somebody said can I just say I'll never ever forget I was not there but seeing the highlight of him literally jumping over? Tim Duncan of the bow line. All deadlocks postwar is. Tim Duncan he jumped over. Tim Duncan I mean that is just one of the most incredible things day that I've ever seen on a basketball court and you know those days were over so he was a smart enough basketball player complete enough basketball player that he could do other things. He always a good rebounder. He could distribute the ball. And you could help. These young players developed the kind of work that enables you to play for decades. We'll end called them crafty veteran jockey. I don't want to downplay his contributions I mean he still had some big moments including potentially retribution. Right for missing that big shot against the sixers was almost identical. It's creepy how close it was. Including the little clutch same corner hits the shot at the BUZZER. And it's funny. We think. Oh well. What's the big deal if you said a million bigshots in his life but even he admitted now. I can be happy. That was years of waiting for that opportunity that prepared for and to actually go in. I can live now. I'm happy convinced us the same exact shot that you took in that playoff series against the one and you told me you practice that shot every day where you thinking about twenty seven. Yeah I remember Jackie. When I came back to Toronto it was booed a lot. There were signs. Did the fans there ever forgiven. Well you know we always talk about story broke endings. It did happen for Vince Carter. It happened late in his career. He was playing with the Memphis. Grizzlies two thousand fourteen. And he went back to Toronto where he had always had great success as an ex raptor and they made the decision to do a video montage to celebrate him. Just witness quite an amazing moment. Here Vince Carter has received a standing ovation. That has here's as is I start showing it and they were the booze within something really amazing happen all of a sudden. There were some cheers cheers. Got Louder to the point where the cheers completely blew away. The booze and people were standing and clapping and Vince was looking at it and pointing to his heart and you know waving to them to the fans and then he just started crying just tears rolling down his face it was. It was an incredible moment. Now I'm tearing up just listening. Maybe it's the Corentin little emotional incredibly right so if if that last shot we saw was Vince Carter his final appearance on an NBA court. What would you say his legacy will be? His legacy will be one of the most electrifying high plying fun players to watch but a player who never really got to enjoy the fruits of all those talents. Do you think that bothers him that? That's going to be such an integral part so I think if you're Vince Carter. And you've played this long and you've played for this many teams. You just love the game. I think if you ask Vince. What is like as he'd say. I was talented player to try to get the most of my abilities. But you know what I love the game so much. I stayed on and that's pretty cool. Thanks so much Jackie. Thank you mean. Ah Catch the east sixty episode on Vince. Carter's historic career the Saturday afternoon on. Espn coming up. Even when they're fans in the stands the atmosphere can still be electric. Here's another story. I want you to know on Monday. We told you about. Mlb's exploratory plan to bring baseball back. As soon as may scheme that would involve everything from isolating players and their families at hotels in Phoenix to playing an empty stadiums to using electronic strike zone and while some of those ideas have incurred a good deal of backlash as a statement from LB insisting they haven't settled on any plan other suggestions like the robot ups make a lot of sense but what about robot fans when the Chinese Professional Baseball League begins. Its season on April eleventh. A team called the rats and monkeys will have electric supporters sitting and standing in the bleachers. Not much is known about them. Based on the image put out they look kind of Creepy Department Store Mannequins wearing jerseys t shirts and lifting up signs. Now it should be noted. This is not the first time a baseball team has gone full westworld on us a few years ago. A Korean team called the Han. Wi Eagles rolled out something they called Fan bots three rows of robots. That fans could control remotely. They could upload sell fees to give the robots their faces not scary at all and make them cheer chant or hold up messages. There's no word yet on whether any MLB teams are considering a robot takeover in the stands. But if they do I have only one suggestion. Please don't program them to do. The wave comes and this has been. Espn daily our show is produced by Alexander Hyacinth. Mike John's Steve Martin Ryan Intel. Andy tennant eve. Tro Chris to Manila and Erinvale special. Thanks this week to Russula. I'll talk to Monday.

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The Sporting Life

The Sporting Life with Jeremy Schaap

00:00 sec | 1 year ago

The Sporting Life

"Welcome to the sporting life with Jeremy. Over the next hour. She's only twenty three years old, but Mikhail Schifrin is already one of the world's most decorated athletes in many ways, I read the goal or the dream that I've got as a little girl that I would like to be the best in the world at some point in my life. So in some ways, ever tease that. But I still feel like there's something left to accomplish. Plus, Vince Carter opens up about NBA, Twitter and the advice he gives to the league's younger players open read, it has a lot of positive things that go through it. It's kind of you let the negative side of coaching media. Take over your mental state your game, though. That's the part of it that I kind of try to help guide shy away from. This is the sporting life on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. Here's Jeremy shop. Welcome through special edition of the sporting life on today's show will be speaking with two athletes who are on opposite ends of the career spectrum on one end, we have been scarred. The future Basketball Hall of Famer he's forty two and he's still playing in the NBA at a high level. But first we have with us a twenty three year old superstar when most dominant athletes on the planet. Michaela Schifrin has taken the guesswork out of women skiing. She wins practically more often than she loses. She's always on the podium. It's practically unheard of what she's been doing this season in particular with fourteen World Cup victories. That is a record not even Ingemar Stenmark Swedish slalom-specialist who's eighty four career World Cup wins or still the most ever was winning at this rate at this stage of the game. So if you are in any way paying attention these days out bind skiing, you absolutely must be. Attention to Michaela Schifrin who's just wrapped up her third consecutive World Cup overall championship. And she's not yet twenty four Michaela. Welcome to the show. Thank you. Oh that was an introduction. Wasn't it? Well, it's it's been a remarkable season. And you've already had it's such a young age or remarkable historic career. But this in many ways has been your most successful season despite difficulties what has changed this year in terms of your approach and your production. You know, I I don't think a lot has changed in terms of my approach. It's a. I do think that I'm still learning. I'm still getting wiser I'm also, you know, so pretty young. So every year, I get just a little bit naturally stronger, and I'm not necessarily training harder. But I'd say every year I learned how to train a little bit smarter. And all those pieces kind of fit into this into the puzzle and a really great way. And then this year like I said, my hasn't really changed. But I I don't know. I I guess I've sort of found a way to let go of the expectations and just try to really have fun on my skis, and it's been producing some really awesome things. You had a great world championships in Sweden as I said, this is your third straight overall World Cup, title only only one woman has ever won more in a row, and that was that was forty years ago. When you're at the top of the mountain, you're bats come down. What are the what are the thoughts uppermost in your mind as you're about to come out of the gate? Oh, you know, the the moment the exact moments right before I leave the starting gate. My mind is almost blink. I think the most of the the biggest thing I'm thinking is just like bring the intensity, and you know, just kind of trying to get myself really hyped up to put to put my biggest effort into every single turn for the next, you know, sixty or so seconds of of the race course. But otherwise, it's just I'm really trying to keep my mind. Clear of any any creepy thoughts to the layman out there. The person who doesn't see skiing except during the Olympics perhaps or tunes in only for a few big races each season, it's hard to comprehend. What creates the separation between someone such as yourself the best in the world and someone? Who is finishing fifteenth or twentieth or twenty fifth consistently because the times are only, you know, two or three seconds behind you. What what creates the difference in those small increments of time between the best and the average professional skier out there. Yeah. Well, you know in ski racing shit. Like when you say three seconds a lot of people consider that to be a lifetime. But I also feel like it is three seconds is not a lot of a lot of time. And it translate into not a lot of distance. You know, if you've ever seen those pictures of basically all of the the top fifteen finishers in the race at a just a picture when they're all at the finish. And like the distance that the first person crosses the line to the fifteenth person. It's. It's not far that's not that much time. And I think the difference is it's really small small things. And it's even like. Just being more a little bit more prepared more consistently on race day. Whereas maybe some of the other girls are are they'll have one really likes outrace. But it's harder. It's more difficult to replicate that and I'm not sure exactly why it is. Obviously, I only really know how I train and how it works for me. But it's definitely like training training so hard that you're seeing level gets to a point where even on your worst days, you can still get on the podium, whereas I think a lot of athletes train hard enough. So that on their best day they could maybe get on the podium. We're speaking with Michaela Schifrin, the two time Olympic gold medalist three time Olympic medalist. She has fifty seven World Cup wins already seventy nine podiums. She's just won her third overall World Cup title and she's turning twenty four next week Michaela. Few weeks interviewing Bodey Miller. And he was he was explaining how for him. You know, he was a guy who had success as much success as he had because he was he could cut the angles of better than everybody else. Other guys were faster when they were gliding. He could get right up to the angle and cut it in a way that other guys couldn't as a slalom specialist, but now experiencing so much success at the speed events. How are you adjusting your skiing between those two poles? Why think that I mean this speed and follow him are completely different events and fallen there. The distance between gates is somewhere between real. It's like on average ten meters in speed and super-g it's somewhere around forty five meters. So it's a lot more distance. And the skis are longer speeds. Are of course. Much much faster. So in in some ways, those to those events these events feel completely different from each other. But there I still feel like there's some things that you can kind of some things you can take away from slalom and apply to speed. And in a way, that's like. Maybe it has to do with line. And like you said mentioned boaty. He was the best at finding the straightest line. The most direct line from start to finish even going around all the gates and doing everything he needed to do to be fast in a season. But he found the most direct line, and that's pretty much always the fastest way down the mountain. But it's not always easy to see that one more inspecting the courses in the morning and trying to kind of pick out the line. We're going to see most athletes end up seeing roughly the same line. And I feel like Bodey was always the one who took a little bit more risk on maybe one or two gates and that made all the difference. And that's something that in flawless them. You see maybe a little bit more often because the speeds are not as high so taking the risk is not as it doesn't. It doesn't always end in such a. Like, devastating crashes or injuries, and you can kind of play with the line a little bit more. And that's something. Like just kind of when I'm used to when I'm comfortable on my keys, and I'm feeling really good with my turns. Then I'm able to take those kinds of risks in every event. It doesn't matter if I'm on, you know, the foam skis or my super g downhill he's or Jeff, you know, Mikhail a lot of Americans know that Lindsey Vonn retired this year she's done for time. She's been the most famous skier in the US with her retirement you step into that role almost automatically and you happen to be right now the best skier in the world. How does Lindsay Vonts retirement in any way affect you? In terms of what you think of as your responsibilities as the face of the sport in the US in particular. You know, I think that if if Lindsay had. Retired a few years ago when I was just coming onto the scene. You know, when I had my first World Cup win, for example. I might have felt a lot more pressure. But because I have sort of been not necessarily the face of US seeing definitely not the most the most well-known USC racer. I mean Lindsay is going to hold definitely hold that title for a long time. But I think that while she was in her last few years when she actually won a lot of her races and got to her eighty two wins. I was sort of coming onto the scene coming into my own and winning my own races. So I started to feel like I was maybe developing my own name. And then she also had some really really big. Injuries in the in the last few years when I was starting to really kind of create that name. So now that she is retired. I don't feel like there's some huge I dunno paradigm shifts in in the spotlight per se. I just feel like I'm kind of continuing to do what I have been doing, and I have been progressing towards for you know, the last eight years since I started racing World Cup. And now it's just Lindsay is taking a different role in fort were speaking with Mikhail Schifrin, the two time Olympic champion. I sometimes I lose track Mikhail. I think it's still fifty seven World Cup wins. Which is obviously remarkable figures. Specially at your age when you look at your future in the sport. And of course, you know, God forbid, you know, injuries sometimes make all the difference. But when you look at your future in your hopes for what you want to achieve instead. Denmark's out there at eighty four. What do you see for yourself? I guess I don't have a really clear cut answer for that. I feel like. My biggest dream as a little girl was to do what I'm doing to to win the overall globe to win individual season titles. So that it's kind of like I'm living my dream right now, but I still feel motivation. So as long as I feel passion for skiing, and I feel like I'm motivated to keep getting in the gym and work in my tail off in the gym and on snow, and as long as all of those pieces keep fitting together, then I'll keep going, but I don't necessarily have like an endpoint or a specific goal that by the end of my career. I wanna reach this in many ways, I've already reached the the goal or the dream that I said as a little girl that I was like at I would like to be the best in the world. At some point in my life. So in some ways, but she's that. But I still feel like there's something there's something less to accomplish. And I just I wanna keep working to improve my seeing and to get faster and also one of the big things right now. One of my big goals is just to keep pushing the sport to a new level and to and to raise women's ski racing to new a new level and keep pushing that for let you go Michaela. And we appreciate your time. We know you're over in Europe right now getting ready for the last few races of the season the vented so t was cancelled last weekend with that you had accumulated the necessary points to take your third overall World Cup championship in a row, but but the life of a professional ski racer now, the constant travel, the constant wear and tear it. Everybody's got their teams around them. Now in a way, the perhaps a couple of generations ago. They didn't is there still camaraderie. Among the skiers out there on the tour or is everybody kind of off in their own bubble is it harder to build friendships with the people you're fighting against every week on the mountain. You know, I think it's actually it's a really special. I don't know kind of community you could call it. I think the sea racing community in general is really tight, but there is camaraderie, and it's it's pretty incredible. I mean even going to world championships in Sweden last month. I guess it was already a month ago, which is crazy time flies but four of the four. Myself and then three other girls on the World Cup. Circuit shared the cost to charter flight to get to Sweden's because it was so close from the the World Cup races. We were at to the first race at world championships. We needed to just get there as quick and comfortably and fast as possible. So we we started a flight all together and got to Sweden, and it it was just one of those things. That's like, you know on racing. You're looking at each other thinking. Yeah, you know, I wanna be faster than you. And I wanna be winning this race. And in a way, it's some kind of a fight. But you're still there's so many really cool, cool, athletes and really cool personalities and characters on the World Cup. And I think it's it's just kind of a special sort of competition that you're able to fight against each other for the win but be happy for each other in. In in your successes, and if you have a bad day, but one of the other girls is has amazing day, then you can look at them. And just say, you know, what I'm really happy for you. Give him a hug, and and try to go out and fight harder next time. So it is there is camaraderie, and it's it's actually pretty special. Well, the the private flight worked out you. You did win. What you want? You became the first person I outlined skier male or female to win the same discipline of four consecutive world championships winning gold in the slalom in Sweden Fifty-seven World Cup wins three consecutive overall titles. Two Olympic gold medals in counting Kayla Schifrin is simply the best skier in the world right now and happy premature birthday it's coming up in a couple of weeks or on March eleventh two I'm sorry on March thirteenth. I should say. It's been a pleasure. Having you on the show Michaela? Good luck with the rest of the season. Thank you so much next to talk with you. This is the sporting life on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. And in sports, recently, we've been talking a lot about old guys. Especially around the time the Super Bowl we were talking about two guys in their forties. Tom Brady and drew Brees breeze making it all the way to the conference final Brady, of course, winning his sixth Super Bowl. But neither of those guys is as old as guest joining us. Now, he still doing it in the NBA twenty years after he first joined the league, he's now forty two years old. We're speaking with the eight time all star, the pro basketball legend, Vince, Carter of the land hawks, Vince. Thank you for joining us. Hey, thanks for having me. Mass pleasure being I gotta tell ya. Vince. I'm forty nine. So you're significantly younger than I am. But knowing that your forty two and you've been in the NBA for twenty years is making me feel especially especially old in one respect because I was covering you back in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight when you were. College North Carolina. I covered that east that east regional in Greensboro, my junior year. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. That's right. So so you guys that was your last year Carolina. You guys won the east regional you went to the final four you Antoine. Jamison where the stars that team. And I had this very distinct memory when you guys won the regional defeating Yukon. I think it was right in the final regional in. I was in your locker room to interview you and Antoine. And I remember my late colleague Stuart Scott was there because he's a tarheel. I remember you guys spending some time, and he was so happy for you guys. It was such a big moment. Do you? Remember that scene? I do I do. I remember that. I remember the moment. I remember following short against Utah. Remember like it was yesterday. This is one of those things that you tend to hold onto forever. And that was like twenty one years ago, actually. And and it's like, you know, when tournament time comes around, and you know, they tend to show the history of the tournament. And of course, when the final four comes. They showed the history of the final four that's when those memories become more vivid as far as like, we're getting there. I I mean people expected us to play in the finals, I wanna say both years and we've still short. So it was just a painful painful situation. I think both times we had a significantly and we had Arizona under control in the first half in early in the second half. And next thing, you know, Mike, Bibby and miles Simon and AJ Bramlett, you know, bringing some names from the past Michael Dickerson, they turned it up. And and we fell short and then the following year accomplishing the goal to get back to the final four back in that situation. And then we fall short to Andre Miller led team. Had a triple double against. That's like, I mean, I tell you. I remember it like it was yesterday. Well, it's a good thing. Vincent after all these years. You've just let it go. You know, it's good that you're not clinging to this any. Yeah. We're we're speaking to Vince Carter who at forty two is still very much a productive player in the NBA. This is I guess you're twenty first season. You you've played fourteen hundred sixty six games in the NBA. So let me cut to the chase to what do you attribute? This remarkable long. Jetty say it's tough to pick one thing and say, this is been be the gym that I hold beep. Beep, lean where I shared the people, I think the number one the come to the denominator for me is my willingly my willingness to do anything and everything it takes to still be here because there's a laundry list of things you have to do that. I need to do to prep and prepare and just to to to be ready to play each and every day, and it's one of those things where you just can't skip steps. And I think that's where I've been able to succeed over some other guys who probably should be in the league. It's just like if you have a list of ten twelve things you can't just do seven eight of those things and expect to to last because it tends to wear you down. Or, you know, your body tends to tighten up. I mean, when you get older, as you know, more you exercise, the more you need to stretch, the more you need to keep your weight on the control. So all those things matter. So the process that I have to go through I'm willing to do. And I think that's been the the the thing that has gotten gotten the over the top. And and kept me going outside of of course, my love for this game. So I still love playing still love competing. I mean, I still take wins and losses, you know, the same as I did in college as you can tell so I mean, it's just it's just a fun thing in this hard to imagine that playing this game. We're speaking of Vince Carter who had forty two is still playing the NBA. He is an eight time all star only five players in the annals of the league have been on the court for more games chrome alone. Dirk vit- ski John Stockton cream, Abdul Jabbar, and Robert Parish. And I I gotta tell you Vince years ago, there's a long time ago. I did a story about Julio Franco who was the oldest. Position player ever baseball. And I think he was forty eight at the time he was still playing he was a remarkable physical. He was in remarkable shape. His body was a temple in eight like all these small meals every day. And he did the fitness was, you know, I mean, he probably had two percent body fat. But I asked him the same question. I just asked you, you know, to what you tribute your longevity. And he said this. I'm not kidding. He said the key is my wife, and I have an agreement. He said she she does not ask me or tell me anything about family and kids before eleven in the morning each day. That I could get out that free right stress-free have my Cup of coffees. Go outside read the newspaper have his Cup of coffee. You know, hear the birds tweeting in the trees and all that kind of stuff. Do you have maybe meditate a little bit better team a little bit? I mean that he said that was the key. I'm not sure how many how many people can get away with that. Do you have anything along those lines? You know to keep you stress free. Not at all. You know, like, I say just like the willingness to do whatever it takes, you know, 'cause I can I can act can give a blueprint to every not even a young guy, of course, but them too, but it's all old guy. And it's kinda like you'll see it and say, okay, instead of doing ten things you'll do nine thing that I sorry cool. And then maybe a month later, you'll do eighth things or and then maybe two three months later, you're doing five or six things. And it's just all of a sudden like dang, how come I feel whatever, you know? And that's the biggest thing I think all of the guys in their forties from Terry. I think he's he's mid forties. Right. A still doing it. You know? So I think. Talk about these things like six I mean, it's a game. He has six plays a game. Maybe not even that. Right. But you know, what I'm saying? You know for the guys who are playing in in their forties in in late lists and say late thirties to 'cause there's still an accomplishment. I I feel like we all know our body. Well, enough to know what it takes to kind of have us ready to go. You know? And I think that's the biggest thing as you're younger. You're still learning. What works, you know? Of course, obviously dieting the right things to eat the right times to eat the right things that you eat before games after game. So and so forth at this point playing this long, you tend to to know what to stay away from when your body feels like such and such what you need to do to kind of subside pain to to find the energy. And that's that goes along with the willingness to do all the things that I know sometimes when my lower limps feel bad like a achilles. Or if my ankle is tough. That means you know, my are tight. So I need to work on my cats, and he distress a little more in my my my cafe or you know, things like that. When you learn your body, you're able to kind of. To get around some of the you got teammates, Vince were less than half to rage. Some your most talented teammates are twenty years old. You're forty two how does that dynamic work in the locker room? I'll tell you what when you're rounded. When you when you're around it long enough, I tend to listen and in and then once you come to figure out the culture, what did likes and don't don't dislike of the younger guys. And he'll what makes them tick. It's kinda easier to kind of coexist with each other. Like, you know, it's you know, I could easily say oh back in my day. You know, how parents would say, oh, we're not remain your as I would walk all these mountain. You know, it's easy to say that. But it's kinda like now. You know, you said he drinks tray sits next to me. And you know, he's what twenty. Yup. And like I was like I've been playing longer you've been alive, and you know, your dad, and I'm a few months older than his dad. So it's kinda like, okay. You know, people say, okay. What did you talk about? We talk about basketball. I I mean, obviously. And then it, you know, basketball opens doors and situations on the bus bus ride plane ride opened up doors into different types of conversations that we've had that sometimes as well beyond these years and right in his wheelhouse. It just depends on sometimes like a little pass my years, sometimes they talk, you know, we can't talk fortnight and video games. 'cause I don't play that. So it was like when you talk about. I'm like what I heard of it. And that's about it. You know, so, but we we have dang that. We learn from each other believing that I'm still learning. I still learn when you enter the league back in nineteen ninety eight John. Everybody even had a cell phone. Like, would you tell the young guys on the team that you entered the league before it was possible to immediately communicate with anyone anywhere in the world? I mean, how do they respond to just the numbers the facts that changes the first night make the person the camps fathom it, and it's like man, you're old at your. And here's what gets them more. So than the cell phone. It's the internet and social media, right? That's what that's what gets it's because like now, it's obviously, you know, your your accessible around the globe point anywhere. And I think now with guys with social media being like it is you can see what's going on before the game at time. That's one of the things like around the league. I've just talking to some of the older guys coaches or former players who are now coaches or in higher position jobs. And they said the thing is like at I, you know for us. It was easy as a young guy because there was no such thing as picking up your phone seeing. What's what they're talking about? What said about you on Twitter now guys can get on Instagram and Twitter halftime, scroll through and see? What's being said in it tends to creep in your in your mind, and it has an effect on the game or declare in the second half. And this is just a terrible. Yeah. It it's just that's just the way. Now, social media access has made a sense incident. And and it's it's like, I say, it's it's fun because it's assessable, and you can meet all these people and see what the the top athletes doing on on the other side of the country, which we didn't have that option. If you didn't read it in the magazine, we didn't see it yourself. You really didn't know much about somebody on the west coast for me who was in living in Florida. So now, it's a totally different game. So when people get behind that computer. And say, whatever they want to say, it it's easy for people to to to target an attack you and now I think social media has made a little more sensitive as far as feelings. I mean, it wasn't like that back in the day. Like, you you say something is like, whatever. And now it's just like it touches, and it has an effect on the game. And it's just it's weird to say that, and I know, you know, probably weird for you to hear that. But it is true thing, we're speaking with Vince Carter the future hall of Famer he's twenty third on the all-time scoring list in the NBA. He was the rookie of the year twenty years ago Indian BA what you say about social media. I mean, it's not just the constant feedback loop from fans, and you're saying how it affects you even while you're playing Dame. If you're a young person who is wrapped up in it. But it's also the the back and forth among players, which is changed so much of what's going on. Yeah. I mean. I mean, it it's just amazing. 'cause like you can have a guy now who's afraid to go block that that shot on a prolific dumper? Let's say or afraid to take that charge. A or something like that afraid of being part the the wrong in an of a highlight. Because okay. Yeah. You know, I don't wanna be on sportscenter. I get that. But now it's like man, I don't wanna get clowned on on social media. I guess it's those things now is just creeps into our league now, and I'm sure it's the same in the NFL and NHL in it'll be all of that. It's just you know, you worry about what's being said now because it's just so excessive. So what's your advice? Then do you tell guys just stop don't worry about it so much are they even tape -able of turning it off? It's tough to do. I mean, you have some of those coaches who don't allow phones after a particular time. It just depends. You know, that's just what the you know to to each his own. But you know, that's. The one thing I tried to. I mean, it's it's tough to tell the guy like to stay off social media. I mean, I I'm still on it and see what's going on. But it doesn't run my life. It's not, you know, end all be all with what said, whether it's from media outlets. Whether it's from just random people fans, or you know, opinionated people who just feel like they can just say what they want. I mean, it's just like, it's a matter of opinion. And it's just it just kinda high does, but it's tough because. I'm I'm I'm going from. Social media that was never around to hear it is these guys grew up in the social media era. So that's a part of them. And it's so tough to kind of take that away. We're speaking with Vince Carter about how the world is changed for the worse. If take over the last twenty years, social me, so tell me if it's, you know, again, your forty two maybe this though, the argument some of the young the young arguments are about social media because I will will be the first to admit social media. It has a lot of positive things that go that go to it as far as promoting your brand. And all that stuff. It's kind of when you let the negative side of social media take over your mental state your game. So that's the part of it that I kind of try to help guys cya away from. I just wanna say that. Because I I was we've had plenty healthy arguments on a locker room about the good and bad of social media. You know, and I just. Wanted to say that before we move on. So go for it before we let you go. Vince, when's the last time you ate something that was actually delicious, and it wasn't just like a salad or something the last? Well, now, there's a lot of these hellofresh. Meals that you can you can get delivered. That are pretty tasty. I mean, nothing nothing tops the the the the the burger from Wendy's. 'cause I used to be a Wendy's guy. Wendy's guy. That's that's that used to be my vice, you know, but you don't indulge anymore. No more the last time I've actually been been to Wendy's. I can't do is worth it. The last time I've had a soda like I I look at it now. And I feel like crap from this looking at it gotta hate you hate you all that. The fact is that had to be made like, you know, as we get older in this league. And I think the Tom Brady's other world the digital Gino read, the who am I thinking of earlier though, Dirk, you know, drew Brees they'll say like cutting back the sacrifices of cutting back on the sugars and stuff like that. Like, I had to do that as you get older, you I tend to want muscles. But you keep your weight down, and, you know, cutting back on the breads and in the sugars like like, you know, soda has so much if somebody can just cut back on bread and sugar like sodas alone you'd see a difference. Just in that alone. I'm going to start allowing idea. So, and I know you sit there like what I'm going to start tonight. This is this is an inspirational Vince, you could you can do it. Give it give it a, and I wouldn't even say a month. I would I don't tell I wouldn't. I don't really encourage people say just take him. Sometimes it's like start with you. All my take it in like, if I get skinnier, they're all these reasons, you know, that's like a reward. Because you gotta pay. I Vince Carter a unique career an eight time all star rookie of the year a future hall of Famer and at forty two still getting it done for the Atlanta Hawks. Vince, it's been a pleasure. Thanks so much for coming here to talk to us on the sporting life. Yes. It's my pleasure, man. Thank you for having me. Thank you for having me. And it's great. I'm Jeremy shop, and you can listen to new additions of the sporting life every Saturday and Sunday morning on ESPN radio and ESPN app beginning at six AM eastern time.

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"All right today on high noon apparently ezekiel elliott won't play in twenty nineteen with a new contract vince part is going to be playing basketball long. After i've done the television season twenty two of his own personal television show indeed while we have a rookie in the n._f._l. Got in trouble for taking practice too. Seriously sleep seems paradoxical but i promise there's an expert at all right now. Let's start with team u._s._a. And whoever the hill is on team u._s._a. People were all oh cup team had its first practice sunday head coach gregg popovich in is assistant steve kerr unity though i think a lot of us are happy those guys pulled out because this is our <hes> chances kimball walker who said that pablo. They've got their chance. But how do you think this team will do it the world cup. I think they're gonna be okay and i say that because i took a stroll through the rosters rosters of all of these teams today and they have more n._b._a. Players than everybody else and it's not even close so they have guys on their roster team u._s._a. Does that are not particularly really inspiring through the common n._b._a. Fan that he is young. I apologized for saying this but i'm thinking of you that said the reason when team u._s._a. I'd say struggles the reason why they struggle. It's not really because talent it's because the team for whatever reason isn't isn't playing well together and they get beaten by all these other teams that have continuity and a real style incentive play so for me. The question really is answered by this guy right here gregg popovich. You're going to get the most out of this team and i think pop. I can hear you say. I think they'll be okay. What does that mean. What does okay mean to you and talking about team u._s._a. Basketball. I don't think they're a slam dunk obvious choice choice to win the gold medal game but i think they should be in the gold medal okay but okay for this team has never been made to the gold. Medal game okay for this team has never been anything short of winning honestly winning in dominant fashion now. Do i think they'll do that probably not other teams in the world are having some of the same problems though we're getting guys to show up so we'll see where i'm not so sold on. This is the idea that just as great probably can do this with the spurs means that he can do this team u._s._a. The last time that we had one of the u._s. as or they couldn't get it together was two thousand four. Who was the coach larry brown who larry brown's protege gregg popovich right because we'd larry brown if you give them. A bunch of those has guys give them a year to put it together. He'll have it together but can you be gregg popovich as he is with the spurs if you're only dealing with these guys for six weeks. How easy is it really put it together. I don't have an answer for that but you say. The scene isn't really inspiring to the common n._b._a. Fan it looks like just a bunch of dudes in the n._b._a. But i feel like we should root for that right like if they don't win it this team that's not guaranteed to win refreshing to you as a basketball fan like they are not an underdog necessarily but it's not goliath yeah. It's it's not a foregone conclusion and i think we're really talking and all of these conversations about two thousand and four. We're talking about the time they lost puerto. Rico lost argentina embarrassed the nation to the point where they needed a team to redeem them and gregg popovich to your point wasn't assistant on that team but what was so weird about that team going back and reading about it. Larry brown seemed to be enacting his own version of that culture wars through that team richard jefferson talked about how this was the era of one st basketball relatively speaking brown hated that he didn't want jason kidd to drive to the holy wanted him to bounce passes to the wings. He hated the fact that these young guys like. Lebron mellow delayed. He didn't want those guys to be the flag bearers and so it wasn't a question of talent. It was sort of the culture so that embarrassing team won a bronze medal. Noting next name is freddie. Kitchens bomani anti cleveland's adorable paunchy former o line coach bob wiley told c._b._s. Sports radio that a big reason kitchens has the hedge up despite no coordinating or head coaching experience that baker mayfield and that former q._b. Coach kenny zan peasy and former interim head coach gregg williams far more responsible for cleveland's resurgence last cheer all of which set the stage for yesterday when kitchens said this. It's it doesn't matter. Bob doesn't wear a brown and orange anymore art. I had the opportunity to hire bob. I didn't want to so <hes> sometimes when a person says something they have to be made to feel relevant. Okay you know the days of inside information and the days of of <hes> unnamed sources and stuff like that have ended so you're not gonna get any information asian like that ever anybody and if i ever see it they're fired immediately. That's the way we're running this organization. How did this change your view of coach freddie kitchens. I don't have a view of him right. Like what what would i all. I have to view freddie kitchens by is the way that he sounds in the way that he looks in a a couple of games of running an offense so i don't have a view of what i had to say to him. Though is everybody swears that that's what they're going to be have no leaks in this ship and i don't blame him for saying that given what what a disaster last year seemed to be on that very front however you're not going to scare people out of doing this because everybody knows. You're not actually going to fire somebody behind this. I don't think think that it was a wise move for him to put that out there in that way because he comes off as being a bit insecure yeah it comes off as paranoid and i understand the context. There were lots of leaks previously e._s._p._n. I began had a big story in which anonymous sources were very crucial to the reporting about the cleveland browns and how humiliating all of it was but i wasn't even thinking about that at this point. I wasn't thinking kitchens ship for leaks because i thought that we had moved on and because the news cycle just tends to have the goldfish memory sort of dynamic but what he did do now is put it squarely in front of everybody. This is the thing that is really important to me. It's kinda the thing that i think freddie kitchens most passionate about based on the little i do know of him and so now i'm wondering wait a minute. Are there people around kitchens who have it out for freddie kitchens already and i guess there's no way to know that now because we haven't had to leave because if we had elite somebody would have already gotten fired art but this is something he's going to have to live with. There is the perception there that the primary reason he got this job is that baker mayfield likes him a buddy. However you got your job baby taking that can be something the net you out here fighting like look at you do freddie as out here kicking it like you. Can't you gotta head coach jeff. That does not happen every day if you've got it because you cool with baker mayfield if you got it because you are his cousin whatever it is that is the way that you had this job now. I have questions about how he's actually going to perform because his resume is so short. This could work out fantastic. I have no idea but i hope for his own sake. He can live with this reality. You got the job now. It doesn't matter how you got it next. Ezekiel elliott josina anderson elliott won't play in twenty nine thousand nine hundred without a new contract james slater the n._f._l. Network tweeted zeke dak prescott in the mario cooper have all received offers that that will put them in the top five highest paid players at their respective positions pablo. It's unlikely just being in the top. Five would be enough for elliott's. Do you think we'll see him in uniform this season i think thank you we will i think we're still in the saber rattling stage of negotiation but i think the question based on the reports we've seen today is whether zeke elliot would be comfortable being paid more like levian bellas posted todd gurley that is the word currently circulating and i ask you this because i really don't know. Is it insulting to be zeki elliott and to be told we're gonna treat you like maybe number two not number one well considering the way that everybody treated number two for the contract that he ultimately received in the hold out that he engaged in to get it then yet probably probably would be seen as insulting to him if he thinks he's the best running back in the league. He thinks he should be paid like the best running back into the problem of course is everybody discussed. Is we think tiger early the author itis in his me therefore the cowboys might be reluctant to pay him in that way one thing i want to point out. Is there jane slater tweet about this where she said that. It was sources told heard the offer was generous. Only one kind of source tells you that the offer is generous in offering the money they only people that think about paychecks in the context of of generosity so the cowboys are putting it out there top five position okay. What does that mean. How does it break down everything else. We don't have the answers for that but if this dude insist upon being paid mike todd gurley then no. He's probably not going to come back this year. I'm not sure there's a set of circumstances. That'll make the cowboys cade that way. I just wonder if you're zeke elliott like what is is the risk of not showing up because we know the other side right. We know why he has leverage. If the cowboys lose game they may do the thing they did with emmett smith when he was sitting out for two games and they went owen to and therefore bring the guy back in pain whatever he wants that but the other risk is that what if they play i believe it's the giants and then washington what if they play those games and they win what if they continue to win what if they continue to get production out of alfred morris whoever it is that they plug in there in his equal elliott is at home sitting there like oh wait a minute. This isn't more lever for not not all it takes is one loss right. The world is the n._f._l. The world starts crashing down with one loss with one loss. We get it here monday. Start asking do they need to give ezekiel elliott his money like being too bad teams isn't going to be the thing that makes all of a sudden say damn i gotta hurry up and come back so at some point. This will be wobbly. It's just a matter how long it takes coming up. Next in texas kicks a quarterback out of practice hitting too hard that okay. I knew this brought to you by mazda. Feel alive. An interesting creature inhabits the flat arid plains of many an automobile dashboard bobblehead. It's most agreeable and will not along to anything despite having no brain function but when the ball had here's how geico not only saves people money but also gives them access to licensed agents twenty four seven online and over the phone or not even more vigorously now because he knows you should switch because yes switching to gyco is a no brainer easy publicity easy. You can get whiplash. Pleadings earthquakes clinks. I knew his bean to you from above the heineken river deck appear seventeen. I don't know who this dude is. I don't know what the hell is on his mind but yeah no brother. He's on fire yeah. That was what i was gonna say. Thank you for taking that only joke. I add for me but i will say. I did caribbean line. You weren't gonna say that i will say n._b._a. Jam redman aside that like computer imaging editing now exists actually have to set it on fire just edited we would know the difference i quote it was played at developed over there and it was time for lonnie editor showers texans coach bill o'brien after picking out rookie cornerback lonnie johnson junior after he level two players on the first day of joint practices with the packers so bomani. What do you make go lonnie's action. I mean he's trying to make the team right. He's probably going to make the team but he's a guy. That's out here doing what i do. I play football. I gotta show these cats. I'm new on the block and they're like actually we don't do that anymore. Not for free at least not out here trying to get ourselves into shape but i understand that this is not uncommon in all kinds of sports over excited excited rookies hard in the grownups being like now homey we try to make it to the end of practices to make sure everybody gets out of here healthy yeah and how much of this do you think is about the fact that he responded like this on social media because on twitter we were told he had a pretty diplomatic response but on instagram instagram lonnie wanted. It's a flexible you feel like there is some teachable moment in that well you know. They put me look. They put him out of practice because they're like you're doing too much right now. This is not how we operate and i just i understand okay and if you're a football player who has always gotten props for knocking the hell out of people now. You finally get the chance to play against another team. Now you go go out here and knock the hell out of people. I logically is equally see why he thinks that this is the o'hare just had to be like i've got a wife. I got a kid. When you put some money on the line. You can go ahead and do this. We don't i put on the full show for free so i imagine at some point they told him to get on twitter and apologized for this because this was not the time for him to be stratton on this matter and the joint practice just just as an institution has to be hard for a rookie especially to process if they're going all out in the way that a rookie should be going all out in actual games because i think of the a fall off in like boxing. What do you do before a fight. Yes far. You don't actually spar with your opponents. This is a joint practice. It seems paradoxical by nature i it could be. I think it's exciting for people to see what type of team we have because the team chemistry we have is just amazing. This is my second team okay but it's the first time i've had a team like this. Everybody gets along jasbir victor the a._p. About the raiders pablo hard knocks starts tonight so it was this show just candy candy. Does it lend some insight significance. I think there is some significance here sure but this is just not what i want to hear from baez perfect at this point. This is not what i wanna hear it hard i knox i don't want to hear that you're getting along with people in a way that you never had before even if you've only played two teams and this is your second. I want to hear about all the stuff. You don't like about everybody else because this this bomani is a soap opera and what i wanted to soap opera. I wanted to get messy and this sounds like a guy trying not to be messy and we will go walk in there like i mean i've watched enough of these real world everything else. They don't hate each other the first day in the house it takes a little while to get to know each other understand. Why exactly it is that you might hate these people cool so let me be patient. Bill probably get your beef a little bit here down. The lack did find it to be interesting though because we do look at this team is one. We're we're like oh man like oh crazy. Here of. Autism perfect is like no. This is perfectly normal. My question is is adjusted. Vote is perfect. Only understands dysfunction or were the bengals just so dysfunctional that these raiders to have seemed like a stable happy. Yeah i want to know when von perfect the equivalent of the thing on the real world where he slaps someone else in the face the car window remember that episode. Did anyone remember that episode of the real world. I read charlotte wishy washy hawaiian okay anyway. I want walk. Someone get slapped in the face and maybe he doesn't come in episode one bow but it better happen soon and jon gruden for all of his t._v. Polish should be a guy who can lend some combust combustible to any room full of egos right. So what you're saying is what would make television. Better is if somebody slaps in the face while not me check okay because if you're right here wasn't h._r. Webinar that did not complete typically about zero. You signed a waiver next next quilt. We're just trying to stay away from the phones and more in the play books tweeting facebook no instagram none of that texas a. and m. defensive tackle justin not a bouquet after the aggies unity council decided to team will stay off all social media platforms during fall camp. Does this sound like a good idea at all. I mean forever t for nice. Try if you can pull it off. Fantastic like life is engineered in such a way now that i don't think it's as easy to divorce themselves as social media platforms especially people who are native give to them where they've been doing this their whole lives but i do get this idea that you need to focus on what is going on here because the beauty of these social media platforms is they allow you to dip your toe in the rest of the world but if you're jimbo fisher you what the whole world to be kyle field in stuff around the football program but i'll is gonna work yeah. I haven't aspirational luddite. When it comes to this stuff. I dream of not being on social media being on the cell phone all of that in part because i look at my hands sometimes and i think carpal tunnel is somewhere in this all right my neck man. I have neck problems because i'm looking at this. I want to be a better person. I just wonder if this any part of the equation here because it's not about them being happier happy or just them being more effective and i do think there is some practical value to them actually not being so distracted assuming they don't just make fake instagram account but also make an argument that he could be a happiness one in the idea of team building and actually talking to the people who are next to you as opposed to being so we're talking to people in the phone. This is the one thing i'll say though everybody all these people. I know who this. I'm not getting on the internet no more. I'm not getting on twitter anymore. They send me a lot of text messages about things. I send on twitter what they doing typically they they stopped sending this is what it is you stop sending and it's not the worst thing in the world because the drama that you get engaged in as often from the stuff that you sin so you can minimize. This is what you've got going and i. I do think that this is a noble goal. I also think in two thousand nine hundred nineteen we should be over the can you get off twitter news stories about this. We're we're still treating this stuff like it's new. That's ten years ago. No this is this is an old problem. It's a human problem and this is something that i have to cop to. I'm a lurker man. I've just moved social media media group chats and it's not really that much better but it makes me feel just a little bit more sane and now you learned about pablo's media mentality coming up next vince carter coming back okay forty two apparently rodeo musical chairs and there it is shadow. Tim burke by the way for posted this on twitter. This is pretty much. How i'd imagine this oh you're really into rodeo and also musical chairs. The house that i mean first off you get tackled second off the chair braves third off and get your face somehow dug into i believe in hope is mud and not other stuff mixed with mud and then that happens to you and i feel like rodeo mostly like that. You sound like you're from new york. Forty two new vince carter play his final season with the hawks at age forty two pablo escobar to pull this off and other guys age along god. I do like to think of carmelo anthony in times. It's like this because no one seems to be eager to get rid of vince carter and i do think there is part of it that he can still play. There is that but also guys just want to have him around in atlanta. They talked about him being a valuable part of that locker room and it's not even in the cliche way. Oh it's a veteran around. It seems like he's legitimately practically thickly useful because he's a guy that the young players talked to and respect and there is that human element money talk a lot about on this show that he actually does provide and i mean like four mellow. I don't know why ed get dragged into this thing that happens. If it's carter is basically he's still good enough to play the n._b._a. He's not the only guy ever at his as still be good enough to play in the n._b._a. But most of those make the call that you know what i'd rather not do this anymore. I feel like vince carter's thing was if i wasn't here playing basketball i'd be somewhere else playing basketball so i might as well will make a little change and rack up a little more toward the pension. He is also about to be like the lebron james of two thousand nine two thousand ten going into his broadcast free agents. That's right like he will be on television next year and he will be selling himself for that. Do not forget my god. That's two hands from the free. Throw line yeah the free throw line. We watch kids on instagram games dunking really impressively all the time but this still holds up. Go back and watch this if you haven't if you i don't know if you're fifteen today at this point go back and realize watches here yeah cutting court and watch our show no he is. It's interesting though because he's not an all time great he is a very good player that to me is like a fringe hall of famer if you put them in. I won't complain about it but that's cool. He had a great career and he is one of the more exciting players of his day yeah. I don't know how good he is in terms of the hall of fame hierarchy but in terms of the memories he is as memorable and therefore as is important to me as a person. It's pretty much any question is he. Better off or worse off with the fact that people try to make them jordan four stretch because he got him a lot of publicity but would also then. You may have been too hard on inclosing grandpa for making the basket but i'm gonna tell you where he came up short. I'll let you watch this one time through say what he should have done. You let them know kids gave him gave jeff got adam right now. Here's a loss for right here on the left side. Why would you use your right hand to make the basket when it true grandfatherly fashion ask. You could've used that right arm space. That's granddad us like once you get to this part right here. I think so yeah okay. He's gonna go to your up fake aac when he comes in elbow. I feel like you're speaking from some experience. No no my dad ain't never do that. Never caught an elbow from jong us a little older by the time. I was out here my brother. He's got the scar on the back of his neck. One time he tried to tried to grab him by the collar missed an interesting as my brother. Sam jones invented the flavor too. I will say though being taken to the rack like that by a guy wearing pants. It does feel like that is the metaphorical elbow if not a literal passe really the problem the question this is about shoes right that does not look like a man that should be able to go buy into those shoes. I don't even know what those shoes are. I'm just saying you should be more athletic than his shoes off a fair point in closing. I would like to salute these firefighters for caring way too much about these raccoons. Wow that is a true kinship man fees because that what is more generosity that i've ever imagined from your local fire departments that the raccoons clearly are taking advantage of it and i would just like to point out that these raccoons. We're kind of soft kind of saw. We have the video that proves the point that i'm trying to make somewhat insensitively vigorous better the raccoon and that's a raccoon coat. That's pretty impressive. Yoke iraq that that because i think we need to really truly appreciate how high that raccoon got before. I don't think we could do that for really way. I have never been matter at the producers of our television. Show the not being able to watch that raccoon plunged to his life plunged to his life. Both oh it is thank you. I'm so sorry impugned all of your character's going. Have you done that. You're on your own. Oh raccoon community throw that three seconds coming up next.

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LeBron's House of Highlights Weekend

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LeBron's House of Highlights Weekend

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Your craziest is your most creative. Dunks are twenty favorites that we see out there. They're going to win five hundred dollars courtesy of cash APP. And by the way we're using the term dunk very loosely. It can be on a on a standard. If you're Vince Carter share a lowered rim could be under nerf neck being a garbage can. It could be on anything on anyone. Here's how Oh you officially enter. You must submit your dunk from public twitter or instagram account and include your cash APP cash. Take you have to tag both at cash up and at no dunks INC and use the Hashtag no dunks contest you must be following us at no dunk on twitter or instagram to be qualified. And and you have to be a resident of the USA and at least eighteen years old. All right okay. Those are the rules but get those Duncan. I know some were coming in over the weekend. Great Start Art. got a few days left because we'll be announcing those twenty winners this Thursday December one thousand nine hundred ninety please dunk on your grandma. That's all we're asking you don't mind yeah just don't hurt all right winners and losers of the NBA weekend will tackle a whole lot here from the association. Let's start with the winners task for you. Got I as we used to say on the starters. Let's get into it. The Derrick rose renaissance. It continues baby. He's on his way to a six man of the year trophy uh-huh and even if he doesn't get there. I think the narrative has changed enough around Derrick rose that he's starting to feel a little bit like Vince Carter where where he reached his peak fell off big time and then sort of found his way as a six man on the road Saturday and Houston derives had ten of his twenty points in the fourth quarter becoming their fourth quarter assassin they winning game Blake Griffin was also out of that game in the second half because of a left knee injury that same knee that he had surgery on in the spring. So I think bodes well a little bit for the Derek Rose Narrative if they continue to win games in the fourth quarter as derrick. Rose has been doing for that team. I think he's got a little bit of Vince. Carter vibe and we talked about him potentially getting into the hall of fame a few weeks ago or a couple of weeks ago on beach step in some scoffed totally understandable. He's not quite close. But if you really turns that narrative around as he started to last year with a really good season in Minnesota as a six man. Now he's doing it with the Detroit Pistons as their closer This I think this bodes well again. He's young enough if he gets that right mentality like Vince Carter did basically saying you know what I'm GonNa play as he's playing twenty four minutes a game most so those in the fourth quarter or a lot of those in the fourth quarter. And you're if he's just awesome in that quarter than the narrative changes big time in who the heck knows about his hall of fame chances but I think a six man of the year very trophy is a legit. He's got a legitimate shot it. Yeah I mean if he plays like a Lou Williams light here for four or five seasons where he becomes this closer and that sixth man man role. Yeah okay maybe maybe he has a better case to get into the hall of fame. I'm skeptical. That happens but I'm very happy to see him sort of flourishing in this role. They did this at times for the wolf's last season but yeah so far so good with fifty. Was that a bench. Or whatever for the wolves last season but showed that he can still will score and he's still a because the big problem with his health and his knees and his ankles and whether or not they can play for another five years. I think another problem is just attitude. I mean it's it's hard for a guy to go from. MVP to hey. I'm a six man. It's just hard. It's funny because it lets say you reverse is Korean. Say started off with all the injuries and he bounced around a few teams and then all of a sudden he got healthy and then all of a sudden became an MVP. You would think he's probably forcing his way into the hall of fame your shirt flip his career. Yeah iffy feet. If each sort of ended the way he started you know that would probably strengthen his case we just we love this guy. We thought he was finished. But he's he's come to know it and we didn't VP But I I'm also still skeptical. It's it's you know he's performing well. No doubt but I think as well being on the Pistons on the team that may or may not even make the playoffs offs. That's also going to affect him. People are just going to kind of forget about this as if he wins six man and he certainly in the running it helps but he has to do a whole lot more. And you know you mentioned mentioned. But it's still think it's more like Dwight. Howard he needs to really rehabilitate himself and then being on a team where he can actually win a championship? I thought it was funny. That after the win he said he wanted to be like Kobe and play for a long time and never changes game which he hasn't he plays the exact same as he does. Because you saw the highlight mixes called it. Vintage Derrick rose and I was watching I was like I don't know if this is vintage. Derrick rose. He's doing pull. UPS Jumpers all the time down the clutch but he was making them and then I started I think. Oh Yeah. When he was with the Bulls he took way too many jumpers? I was like go to the rim every time but now that he's a little bit older. A little wiser has been healthy for a few seasons. He's been able to work on his jumper. I remember him telling them three d a while ago that he finally doesn't have to Rehab in the summer so we can actually work on his game. It's paying off. The sixth man role is good for him. He gets to do everything everything he wants when he has the ball. He doesn't really need to worry about getting guys involved though he does So yeah moving into the man role has been good for Derrick rose and has been good for the dependencies. He's been maybe their best player. So far this season I mean drama does putting up big time stats. Blake is their best guy but he hasn't looked throughout the season roses. There's one them quite a few games. And if Blake continues to be entered as he was the second half that game had to sit out with that knee injury as I slipped in there one that he had surgery on. That's scary for them. Derek will have all the opportunity in the world but yeah they have to win games for him to really really rehabilitate his image. But against the rockets there's a whole lot of space out there with that defense. They're just letting name do whatever he wants but he was doing well one of my winners of the weekend. Lebron James Lebron had the perfect weekend when you think about it. Friday is Lakers go into Miami and they pulled out a very competitive one. Thirteen one ten win. Lebron okay. Classic Twenty eight twelve nine. He hit four threes in that one he was plus nine and again a very close game. All right that's on Friday on Saturday. Dad Lebron he got to go see his son brawny make his Ohio debut watched him. I'm hit the go ahead. Shot in his team's win over. Lebron's old Saint Vincent Saint. Mary Irish so he's cheering on that squad. All right so he's got a win. Then he's data Lebron and his this on ball out and he wins and then on Sunday Lebron here in Atlanta. He wasn't done. He posted a cool thirty two thirteen seven. Another four made threes. He's a plus ten ten in again. A close game as the hawks made it competitive but lost by Faisal Lakers win one zero one ninety-six This would have been twenty point. Blow blow out. If the Lakers could hit a three. Lebron was the only one that could hit three in this game for the Lakers. But still the Lebron highlights in this Sunday game too. I was down there. The fortress so is trey I mean he it had the double clutch sort of like pump dunk. He had the spin in the slam. He had the dropping the bounce pass between the legs to Dwight who is trailing hammered. At home you hit bombed threes hitting from the logo and he had the fake block on Rondo Rondo fake pass behind the back and then laid it in and run. Did what you don't see often fake blocked his own teaming so you're having fun and again that's like the perfect picked weekend you've got two wins any SOBRANI. Junior hit the game winning bucket. It had load management written all over this game too. He was listed as questionable with an elbow. And it's like It's going to see sun plan the Hawks this is a game. Lebron Percent Kinda did I didn't plan super hard. Nobody on the Lakers was they were going for highlights. It was paying off and he's still ends up with thirty two and thirteen and seven. Laura message me during the game. She's like how's the game. I'm like it's fine. I've got two pictures. Lebron dunking already and it was like the second quarter because he was out there especially in the second quarter trying to put a stamp on the game and get into a highlight makes it was. It was fun to watch. I mean the guy had the fortress crowd eating out of his the palm of his hand. There were a lot of Lakers fans here but it made for a fun watch watch it was and then after the game you thought that he may not play in this. You rightly helium. He reiterated. He ain't going to be sitting games when he's healthy is what he said. He says he has an obligation Gatien to teammates. And the fans that actually you know pay good money to come watch him play. He went on about it. But that's basically what he was saying. You know who knows how many games have left. I don't know how many kids that may show up to a game. That are there to come see me play what happens if I sit out. And all that he is says he is. He is going to be playing here when healthy and I mean so far so he hasn't missed a game. Yeah and and he mentioned early that he wants to play all eighty two so whether or not he will do that. Come closer to playoffs once. They've cliched and they can't get any better or worse. Let's say when it comes to standings or seedings whatever then then he might take up. You know that that was a great plumstead and the hawks felt felt like it was probably a little closer than it was. But that's a great look to tie the game. Yeah it's Carter driving inside Lebron. Actually that was the one blemish on his sort perfect weekend. Lebron got caught. You know whether he was going to challenge Vince at the rim like the Hawks are down three. What how many psych twelve seconds So they need a three but they could do the old take the quick to you could still play the game Occidente timeout to so they could have then advanced it. But Ron sort of caught. There doesn't go enough that Vince. Vince could've laid it up but he's like well. There's a guy wide open in the corner. Unfortunately for the Hawks who was Cam. Reddish new can't hit a corner threes his life. How good look at it? Because is Lebron wasn't near him and he missed then. Danny Green hit some free throws very funny The way vince went in because everybody overplayed the three point line as you should. So Vince had a pretty clear pat to the basket and he was like walking down. The Lane is somebody GonNa come and somebody come. It probably took about three seconds to go from the three point line to the hope. Lebron finals like I guess the move came over whipped into the corner and Yeah Reddish Miss. Not even the worst midst of a corner. Three though down the stretch for the Hawks Jabari Parker had another one from the other Corner Shot in about thirty feet from the corner. That was a nasty crowd like literally. More Vince Said got to save a couple of moments in this game where I thought he looked for a couple of times it was just like ooh ooh. Yeah it's starting to catch up with the middle. Ah He's only forty two forty two forty January third third nuts. Yeah cameras miss that. Three trae young nicely hug form afterwards trying to consider him a little bit. Yeah they're not GONNA win a lot of games right now. If you can't hit shots the Lakers just took this game off and they still want it and you talked about load management skates. Maybe they maybe. Lebron will not miss a game this year. That's why that the whole talk about him. Sitting any oh games at home or players. Sitting Games at home is a good idea so the road team doesn't see them. You know gets to see them. I should say and all the all the road fans Lebron Lebron set at home against the Lakers Janice did sit out a game last week. That was load management. It wasn't a quantum. Chill out at home. I think that makes sense once one comment about the The ultimate disrespect that going to fake a block on your own teammates is that the that is the ultimate disrespect respect that I mean that is hilarious. Spin a ball on the three point. Line drill three rate is facing during the playoffs. That was pretty nasty. Lebron to the ultimate disrespect was Kevin heard her on the jumbotron last night he did. The peach tree fell rat bracket at one point. He picked picked rich. The kid over outcast and the crowd booed they put like a growling face emoji up on their suspect pick from. Kevin hurt her though. I ahead Kevin Herder literally pick like a sixty four bracket in a minute. It was pretty crazy. They got through it. It's like it's like Kevin durant talking about the Knicks. The Knicks haven't been cool cool in a long time cast hasn't been together for a long time. It's that's a great point. It's understandable for for Mr Hurt his a kid. It's understandable where the kid when Lebron did that fake fake block on rondos lamp. Like I you know we were all up there going. What did we what does happen? They're like everybody was trying to clarify like he did. Just sort of playfully. Fake blocked by what happened when he was in practice. Yeah and I don't know if you've seen it the great twitter account and instagram account dunk. COMP you got the sticker there on your computer. They had an old clip of Vince. Carter sort of doing something similar back when the nets. Because I couldn't remember we're sitting up in the game. I can't remember ever seen that but it has happened before somewhat similar vince. I think I think he thinks he's getting like the alleyoop on the two on. Oh break when he was bagging the net so always sort of just playfully his fake Allieu Bronzes More of the fake block on wasn't entertaining game again it was. I was always happy to Lakers. I couldn't hit a three so it was very close and cameras. Cameras had a rough game pretty brutal turnovers. They're they're just living with it right now. If we're going to be good in the future are young guys are GonNa have to take some lumps. That's exactly right all right. Well just one thing quickly. Are you mentioned. Lebron went back on Saturday. Sun Bernie junior play. I thought fantastic father son moment there and I cannot believe on twitter. People were slagging Lebron off as if as if he was like trying to crash his sons moment their father. They're supporting us is that what the backlashes like. I mean Lebron just just cannot Jerry to hurt anything with that. Some people feeling like like if hide him. That's what that's what they do because for me for him to make that effort to go and see your son. I thought we'd special. Because is he talked about. He said I miss my daughter gymnastics. I miss my other kids birthday parties and things like that. So if he's scheduled to go there and cheer on his son good on him. Lebron father of the view. Stuff right there I I just I know twitter like you can say anything colon. Relax father of the year to go but missed his daughters gymnastics. I'm nasty but listen to finance his father supporting his son. I just can't believe anyone would see any negative aspect of what he's doing I think that's that's yes. I guess it sort of snowballed from other games where he cheers too hard as trae said earlier like he he's the cameras on him and it's just Lebron on hitters. That's what it is. I'd like to see where all these people are like. Oh these guys are soft. They're always taking games off. They never want to play anymore. load management Blah Blah Blah and. Then here comes the browns like now. I'm not going to do that. I'm going to play basically every game. So where are all the champions for for him. Shouldn't you be in his corner. Like Yeah Lebron's right. That's awesome hater. Your hater doesn't matter. He's GonNa take a few games off later. Well here's here's the funny thing. The Lakers have an unbelievable record. No doubt they are squeaking out a lot of these winds. Now yes I I do agree. They were playing half ass laugh yesterday on Sunday against the Hawks. They definitely were but they do that from time to time. Right right a lot of these are close. Yes I mean they just had a chance. There's been a couple of other instances But they're they're they're still racking up the wins of course and still trying to keep that separation between the clippers. Sort of in second place there I think there are. They like four and a half games up very very early of those jobs and they're point. Differential is the same as basically the same as the third place Dallas Mavericks speaking to how close they are just squeaking games out they take off two and a half quarters and then then when the game gets close they say okay. We had a frigging do this. Let's go let's go. Do you. Slept in their seats. I thought it was hilarious. People Calling Brawny James Lebron on son his first game in Ohio his Ohio debut. It's so funny just so funny that it's school basketball work that California's playing high. Hi Again I think his teams here Canon has like is only four state tour right now like they go everywhere. They're very famous. I mean Braun is coming off the bench and knees. Lebron on James's son that's how many good players have. No that's right they are. They have like ten more games on. ESPN I think more games on ESPN than several NBA. Tim's I I mean I look. I'm going to be completely honest. I didn't watch a single second of the game. I saw the highlight. I saw the Nice Steel Nice to flex by Bryant Junior Nice Finish Nice little layup. They up going the other way. But I'm not watching Goddamn High School basketball here. I'm just never going to do it. Did you watch Lebron when he when his High School Games I. It was like my age. I'm not even sure I could have back up in Canada watching until we definitely didn't get. ESPN it was on like letters. I don't think I don't know what it costs. Thirty seven thousand dollars in tuition for the high schoolers to attend that school. It's like this is isn't laying the jazz so go there and rosters include the sons of former NBA player. Scotty pippin Kenyon Martin. Marvin Bagley played their Kendall and Kylie Jenner. Drake has been two games. Ames's fan waited teammate. All right let's keep going here Who Do you got for one or the weekend? I think this is a perfect place place for them to come up the Milwaukee Bucks of eighteen straight games now no one cares. Nobody cares at all. They beat the Grizzlies and cavs on Friday and Saturday. Not Great Team so fair enough not caring about that but the thing that made me care a little bit about. This was being at the Hawks game talking to people saying people cared more about the hawks. Winning nineteen th straight games back in fourteen fifteen this team. I guess because it is stretched over the course of a month from November eighth until now it's not as impressive otherwise wired at this team not winning player of the week or player of the month for their entire team. There's eleven teams ever have one eighteen. Th Straight Games and they're one of them yeah so you say you. They didn't. They didn't last November eighth right. So you're saying if that was all jammed into the month of November like they undefeated mum. Yeah that right right. That is funny but like they have the reigning. MVP jaanus is at the very least one of the top three MVP candidates right now. It's not like the bucks a long track record of success that this is is totally something we should be used to. It's not the warriors of exactly or the heat when they won twenty seven games and even then it was like well. Yeah you should win twenty seven games. You have the best team name right. This is still a fresh team. I think team that people are could get something new to watch but you know eighteen. Th Straight wins is flying under the radar. This is coming third on are winners of the weekend there. Hammering teams yeah. They're killing APPS. Find the money. PM To you can't you can't find they never make the little. It's so true though this is I guess. Good in some ways for the box Putin holes that like they're sort of flying under the right officer I guess if you WanNa take a positive out of it but yes if you're a bucks fan you what you expect to get the same treatment that the warriors got when they were on their rise. You'd it'd be very upset because this is just being swept under the rug But we'll find out if they stay undefeated and the Lakers keep rolling that clash This coming Thursday that will get some eyeballs on TNT. I gotTA assume he's given the fact that The Mavericks play the box. Luckily Without Luke Donncha pitch to continue their winning streak. You would think going into that Lakers game which is what you want. People think the bucks are boring. That's that is what it comes down to. People think that they are sort of the new age spurs. They've just not sexy enough which is crazy but also come by the fact that there are other things to talk about vote in the League. They are Nobody cares yeah. It's true there to me. They are the new age verse. I Dunno if anyone's going to talk about them even if they win a championship. They'll just be that team. That does good. Good the one sort of bad news for the bucks this weekend. Though was the Eric bledsoe injury. Looks like he's going to be on a couple of weeks with the leg. Fracture is what they're calling or something like that so Yeah that hurts. But George Hilas played well Dante Vincenzo with good. He's played well as the new spicy one. Fifteen points four assists three steals. He was was active. I mean they've got a couple of guys that they can throw into bledsoe spot for a couple of weeks. Shouldn't a broken leg take must be very minor fracture. They ran into each other. And you got like. Yana says basically your point guard anyway. Handle the ball if they need to be. It looks looks like Dante David. Chen took on the Yannis Dempo. Workout plan like he is. He's got bigger from year one to year two. It looks tick and even The fact that Chris Middleton was out earlier this season they didn't skip a beat. They're not gonNA skip a beat. No chance there too good Lee winter the weekend team that we are probably not going to talk a whole lot of this season but in the next couple of years we might. Is the Memphis Grizzlies. They went one on one over the weekend. You mentioned already. They lost to the bucks at home but overlook. Look at that game. Jaren Jackson Nine fifteen from downtown. Oh man forty three points in a loss of course but you know when you watch a known as. He's been taking a few humour threes this year. He's shooting forty percent on six attempts to gain. That's pretty good. Because that's not a pretty shot really really and he feels like he steps into a shooting you lay e now six eleven. He's a power forty only gets four rebounds again. That's that's a bit of a concern they fear for your powerful and you one and he hasn't improved that from you want to so it's great. That shit three point is is working there. But if you're that big athletic you'd like to same at least doubling his rebound bound count there. So he's got something to work on the James We know he's good. He said again say it again. What did I say J. J. We know we know is good but your notes J H we know he's good but he said it again for this because again he throws his body into everything? Everything Brennan Clock Canadian off the bench when we start singing o Canada. Yeah well well he just let me finish. Let me finish brand o'clock at a great game. Twenty five and four off the bench in Saturday's game win over the Washington Wizards. And also Dillon Brooks call me marshawn. He's been fantastic for the grizzlies issue so again. They're not totally out of the place but if they can string a couple together I could be in that race or eighth or seventh because a couple of teams Phoenix Memphis. Who you know? I'm I'm not sure if they can hang onto this. But but if you look at what this Memphis Grizzlies roster is right now. I think that's the there's a lot of hype and a lot of Nice looking exactly agree with you there. I think they got like another steal the draft in Brandon Clark Yorkshire and like you said John Then Brooks is a shooter and because some defensive than Jaren Jackson Junior can get fire. There's Pisa Visa GotTa Stop Following his have gone up which is why his minutes have not gone up very much. That's his his biggest weakness that guy just hacks people so when he's able to stay on the court he's awesome people compare them to. Tim Duncan to Kevin Garnett. Maybe he ends up a little bit more like Al Horford because he seems to be a team I guy Clark right now no I'm talking I'm talking about Jaren Jackson Yeah. Yeah so I don't know. He's an impressive talent. Yeah I mean like I say forty seven percent on twos and then forty percent on threes. Like hey man it works so go for it but Yeah you gotTa feel that if things develop your memphis they gonna be decent team in a couple of years time. Yeah the only real headlines The bucks were making this weekend was was during that grizzlies. Game against that was sitting on the bench and Jaren Jackson Junior was going off and he said I gotTa go guard this guy I gotta go do something. And the fact that he went at Bruno Kabo glow in this game that he had event she had. This game circled on his calendar. That was that was an article on the athletic that he had. This game circled on his calendar because Bruno Kabo Clo- talked the little junk to him in the World Cup this summer when Greece played Brazil and he dunk on his head and dunked on your head in this game yelled at him and the at thirty seven. The people get angry. Mike Dunleavy Judea. That's like Jordan level sort of pettiness leanest memory like it's not that crazy man but I'm GonNa Kill Them. That's why you're amazing. Got The tech for two thousand dollar fine. He said I'm a new dad. That's going to be four months worth of diapers soon. So now he's going to have to dunk on Bruno getting tossed my kid much. The couple come more winners. And you've got tests squeezing Dhamar derozen here because we talked about him on Thursday when he was playing the Cleveland Cavaliers. Fourteen eighteen seconds left spurs up three tomorrow at the line with a chance to ice it clank clank. He missed both cavs. Went on to win that game overtime Saturday in Mexico City versus sons. Look looking like it could be the same thing. He'd incredible an one shot to tie the game. Seven seconds left and not free. Throw to put the spurs ahead and probably seal it. He missed it. The Spurs burs fought for ball out of bounds they retained it and Patty Mills hit a game winner so Tamara escapes the criticism of missing a lot of free throws and costing saying that the Spurs and other victory because Patty Mills made up for Ross. We probably would have been talking about him in a future segment of this show called a loser so good for him. The spurs four overtime games in a row has never been in. NBA history that free throw a missile was like the other two that he missed. It just leaves them short crazy. Okay yeah sure yeah. It's in his head and then Patty safeties backside on your body beautiful shot. They got some pretty entertaining. Game Down there in Mexico Both of those games with the Mass Pistons right a couple days earlier. And then that one between the Spurs and suns going overtime great games. I'd like to give a little mini winner that we can to the Denver Nuggets all right. They picked up back to back. Wins improved to seventeen and eight overall tied for third in the West Not Guitar. I know defeated. Okay see on Saturday one ten one or two then. They beat the Knicks on Sunday by six Yokich. Though the joker he's breaking out a little bit out of that little mini slump that he had going he had a huge game versus. Okay See Twenty eight fourteen and twelve. He got the WHOA boy for the first time this year for him and his fourth triple double get here. The nuggets talk about Yokich after the Gary Harris was quoted as saying when he is aggressive. It just opens up everything for everybody else. He's done important. No doubt versus the knicks sort of took over that when he scored scored eleven of his twenty five in the fourth. Quarter some big shots so both of these wins again. Okay see in the next. I get it not the greatest competition in the world but he got to go on a little bit and this was without Paul millsap. Who missed both these games? Because he left Thursday night's game with a right quadricep strain so good on the nuggets again. Maybe a little a little sort of bounce back accu especially for especially for the joker. Well let's five or six going into that three game and it was. I think I talked about last week and starting to get a little concerned about them and so they lost three wins. WINS HAVE BEEN PORTLAND. Okay Say New York. But that's what they have to do like get those winds get back on track and get Yokich just to show a little more enthusiasm to be out on the court and I think he it definitely is showing that in some funny highlights to hug. It's over the weekend. You had like you had Joel. Murray going off the backboard himself. Yeah very very nice and He was stuck. It was the perfect play and finish it. You Will Barton going off. Yokich is back on Sunday because he got caught. Because I know a perfect target the ball just drops off that back then. They ended up the the ball found. Its Way to Geneva. Maria hit like a step back three and yoga. Chat some crazy place to a wild entertaining Nuggets weekend felt like he was spending a lot. I felt like there's so many Yokich post moves where he is spending which was good to see when people talk about him being aggressive. It's the things like running down to the block as fast can't beating guys down the cord on the fast break and just setting up under the hoop. He's got that big old back. Use It. I saw Rebecca Harlow Knicks reporter. Tweet tweet this before. Sunday's game against the Denver Nuggets in Denver. Where the altitude is tough? She tweeted Knicks added beet juice to combat altitude. Here's why drinking taking beetroot juice. And cruise increases plasma nitrate levels and boost physical performance. The more you know so people in the fourth quarter when the Knicks were up the nuggets. All it's working upbeat uses working. We're GONNA and it do it. And they almost one thanks that beaches. That was a close game. Big Beet juice fans here. I do. Love beat yeah. Yeah yeah juice or do you the eating beef straight. We put beats beetroots on hamburgers. Your Burger yeah a great joke to. What's the difference between a Patriot in the north? I don't know you can bay but you copied a route that was trying to listeners. DOC DIFFER JD. Do you want to take that back. It cajones better. That's fine all right so those are off. You can't beat the best thing. Maybe I'm getting my my sexual dictionary have except Our driver okay. Well that's a dry one. Senator Winners Tweet Hashtag Signal. dunks or at no-dong sink. We'll get to losers of the weekend in a second but I work from one of our sponsors so we talk about physical fitness a lot but there's another side of the game that just as important. I'm talking about mental fitness. Call the number one APP for sleep and meditation as teamed up. Bron James to help you train your mind fit body fit mind with calm. You can have access to the nature scenes. Lebron loves like rain on leaves extended mix nearly an hour and a half of rain falling on lease. 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I thought Mark Follow Will Derek Tehrik Harper and just did a great job of not crying on the broadcast. That's their season. If he goes down with an injury he left he limped off. Although although Jeff Skin Wade during commercials he did tweet kill me and then with with Luca anklturn. I've lost my passion for sports. Too Extreme No. I don't think that's too extreme. But on the broadcast they were quite professional. And it's only two weeks. Hopefully it is an ankle. Injury doesn't seem seem x-rays are negatives that doesn't seem like anything else effected no knee injury. Nothing upwards no evolve happening there. NBA obviously suffers because as the bucks looking to win their nineteen. Th Straight Monday night as you mentioned against the Mavericks but the bucks can't take them out of slightly. A mass fought back hard in this game. Without Luca against the Miami Heat on Saturday and they'll give the bucks a little run on Monday night. They they've got the next man up mentality as they say sportsworld point guards off the bench. I mean I mean there is Dhillon right and then there's Brunson. Jj if you get some burp like they're going to be they're going to need porzingas to really start catching fire here. You've you've got to be the leader of the team without Luca Tim Hardaway junior is gonNA have to keep knocking down posing gets in that role maybe get a chance to change. Their schedule. Is Crazy tough though here for like this what you said. It's in Milwaukee tonight. Then they they're at home to Boston. Then they're on the road in Philly then they're on the road in Toronto Rondo and if you include the heat loss the overtime loss where they did fight and made a close. That's like five of the best teams. These conference is the five teams in the Eastern Conference. That's not gonNA GONNA be easy. That was not going to be easy with Lucre with Luca. But you're right. Maybe we see something different here from Cape if it is only two weeks then. That certainly doesn't correlate correlate with what the test showed when it actually happened it looked worse it looked high race. Yeah he grabbed high. Yeah it's never good. Yeah but if it is only two we'll we'll take that I think is NBA fans fair enough. All right. Who else you got for loser the weekend? Well I'm going with unfortunately the New Orleans. Pelicans I think the wheels of finally come off twelve in a row losses that is Alvin gentry got thrown out yesterday and the lost at home to the Orlando Magic and obviously the the season got off to a rocky start but that doesn't really save them from the fact that they just look awful at both ends right now and whatever you know there was a lot of hope coming into and maybe Lonzo ball and Brandon Ingram between good and a few of these other guys might just have a good season and be able to keep them afloat while Zion was at but that is not the case. The pelicans Americans now just I mean second west record is at six and yes it is weird to see like the worst teams in the league. And you're like okay the warriors yeah. They're missing everybody okay. The Knicks the Knicks. And then. You're like well. Pelicans her six twenty one. It's like what's going on. Starting to the cats are bad. Add to the Hawks speculation about Alvin. GENTRY's job again. I think he survived this season. I think because he has some history there with Dave Griffin as well from their phoenix days and I think he has that little built in excuse of Losing Zion and maybe we seize on. Maybe we don't but really it's going to be a lot worse than they could have possibly imagined wins. I went down. The real question is does this have any effect on Zion. Really truly coming. I think it does yeah. They say it doesn't Griffis basically on record saying he's he's going the play. Yeah he's GonNa come back and play. I imagine it would be worse for Alvin Gentry. F- Zion never comes back because if he comes back maybe at least gets a chance to run out the sort of full squad. Lot of the Pelicans and see what's happening with Zion in the lineup. But if they decide yeah we're GONNA sit him down. We'll bring him back next year. I could see a moving on from Alvin gentry during the season because the results have been there. They've had one five hundred seasons since he took over and he was kind of the most sought after coach when that happened. Yeah there is history between grief breath and gentry from Phoenix but also like to put their own guy there and he's not as guy right now. Okay Pelicans that's tough. One tough tough season so so far for the Pelicans fans who you got dion waiters. Why he he just? He was a nominee for worse worse than a week Friday. It was suspended the heat said it was for failure to adhere to team policies violation of team rules in continued insubordination. Said doesn't sound good. We'll see what happens. We found out what that was eaten. Skolnick of the five reasons sports network reported that a large part of the reason dion waiters was suspended was because he posted a picture of himself on instagram on a boat when he was supposed to be sick. Come on Buddy. If you've ever skipped anything the first rule of skipping things leave your phone alone remember the time. We went to Canada's Wonderland. Everybody agreed we're taking time. We're taking a day off everybody. Leave your phone in the car are Darryl said I gotTa bring my fun. Stayed State Office phone but he needed to be able to answer some emails and then we went to the top of the Wlov Leviathan and the phone slipped from his pocket. The crashed to the ground unveiling the ruse of skipping work. You cannot take your phone with you if you're going to be out on a boat partying when you're supposed to be sick. That being said this is now three. Suspensions for Dion Waiters Zero Games played in two of them have come on forms of transportation. So jd please. Give me the top five news on Tom. Tom By top top Tom by top by top. These are your top by Dion. Waiters Transportation Tation suspensions number five. He was faked sick on a boat. Maybe he was real seasick. I don't know I assume he was sick before he went to the boat number number. Four dummies on a plane top. One Who hasn't freaked out having gone. He's on the plane so let's finish out the top five at number three gets into a skirmish kermit on a train. Maybe the conductor let me see your ticket. He doesn't have a ticket next thing you know. He's fighting with US guys. Somebody blasted on instagram. Doesn't look good for the heat. Doesn't look good for Dion waiters and number two to sprains his ankle falling off electric scooter. Shout out to Monta Ellis. That once happened to him but the number one reason dion waiters would be suspended for some mode mode of transportation partner car on a road trip. Terrible denying it or earning up to it or either way he will walk. Yeah Um but it's not good for dion waiters. The heat are now apparently doing whatever they can to get rid of him and it might just be waving in. Because according to Ethan Skolnick there is zero. No interest in trading for dion waiters. ZIP quote was ZIP. NBA teams think of Dion waiters. At this point he might be done. We might never see damn waiters on the quarterback. What a waste talent? It'd be wild. I just remember Jerry. Smith is still sort of I guess out there to. Jr Smith isn't going anywhere. I mean people. I guess what I was thinking. What teams actually want? Jr Smith more than Dion waiters. Probably yeah I I think they might to thank you. That's rough. He's got the touch of championship. Success with Lebron James. So he's got that going for I. I like the fact that Instagram sleuthing prove fruitful. Though you know 'cause because it feels good to go on and scream at try and figure things out. I do enjoy that process process so I kind of feel it feels like it was rewarded. But he's he's put. He's a camp private now. I can't find the photo. allegedly he apparently wiped it. But I was like you I was going. I was trying to search everything and defined dion waiters on a boat and there are so many pictures of dion waiters hanging out on a boat but none specifically for this one. Yeah I guess he does live in. Miami's yeah the boats are plentiful. Someone didn't screen capita in the NBA. Red Let's check it Hashtag. TBT on they'll be like must've been two weeks ago that's nice work around just always Hash Day. TV What are you talking about that. Was I had a transportation mishap with an electric scooter last night. Yeah 'cause I was down at the high scheme you know the game let south thousands of people trying to get sometimes a an uber or lift home. Tom I mean I. I had taken the Marta. I take the subway. They're away I didn't want to take it back. I was like okay. I'll probably grab like a ridesharing service but it's packed like it's just madness right so you're gonNA GONNA be there for so long so I was like well. Let me just jump on a scooter was a nice night is a Balmy night. Do that have done that before so I took the the. I took the Uber version of the scooter. The jump is obviously like five different services here in Atlanta. At least you got the birds and you got the lions and whenever I I took the jump one from Uber so I take it no problem. Great ride get home. There's no one on the street. Once they got over to our neck of the woods so it was perfect. I get to my my gate and to lock it. I get off it. I put the kick stand up my phone. My App won't let me lock the bike. So I'm like what the hell do I do now now so I like what I should have done because I thought it was like well. All right maybe I should bring into my property behind the gate because at the very least doesn't lock it's there maybe maybe and it's less likely to be used as like out in my head is like it'll probably just lock a minute or two afternoons on it. I just thought that for some reason so I leave it flash fast forward to this morning check my email. Hope you enjoyed your jumper east scooter. Ride your fee fifty five dollars so I click on it. Oh crap what I thought was going to happen happen because I left it outside the gate. Someone I don't know how long after I got off it but someone John and you could see the map like you could see my ride to home and then you could see this right this guy or woman who ever had this ride and use multiple people they took it everywhere everywhere in Atlanta fifty five bucks. That's a lot of greasy miles on this thing and I wrote them no problem I wrote over said Look I couldn't lock the damn thing so someone obviously jumped on it because the light stays on it too so it's probably more like someone walking buys like okay for your right anyway. Got The money back. Cool Story Bro. Quite Miss Apple. When you write the jump with a troubleshooting issue does Rachel Nichols female? H H well played all right. I've got a few loser of the weekend. So many ones here Hornets bowls. You see that final score from the weekend again. Eighty three to seventy three. We wrote on Friday night. I was with trae. We're at a friend's house. Larry Luke Seen as Little Leo do board and son and we were coming back from his house and it was a super late but I'm like checking the scores. I don't like what the hell any 373 says the final scores like. There's there's no way that could be true. I was like that's got to be you know. Sometimes the APP doesn't work on the score after two the score Jonathon Ross. And it wasn't he doesn't work. Okay well he appreciates that show. That's why this score messed up. Because he doesn't alleyway it wasn't it wasn't the score wasn't NBA Zap. It was totally fine. It was eighty the three to seventy three that was the lowest offensive output of the season for both teams obviously the Bulls was the lowest of the NBA season seventy three point Charlotte. Thirty eight percent from the floor and the Bulls were even worse. They shot thirty percent and then oh my God boil and was trying to spin it after the game. Yeah we're working on defense pretty good out there the defense I laughed so hard at this quote from beyond Bo though I think he said it with a straight face we had probably one of our best rebounding bounding games because there was a million Mrs Somebody had to grab boards a bunch of them. Oh my God so that was just brutal but Kudos goes to the polls for bouncing back on Saturday against the clippers. Did you get nice win there. So yeah and Kudos to the Golden State Warriors for scoring seventy nine points on Sunday so it doesn't necessarily look as bad bad but man seventy three year Zach Levine had forty-nine himself the last time these two dollars five something else that see a squirrel like right in two thousand thousand ninety tweeting about it and people were joking like what is this you know. Nineteen Ninety Four Bulls Nick's going on here like Pat. Riley must be loving this type of things things funny said the warriors my other loser the weekend draymond green now coming in here I was convinced that Kevin Knox was going to have like the whoopsie uh of the weekend. Emmer those guys the website. Yeah Oh yeah Kevin Knox basically dumped on his own net by Biaxin. He's going for the rebound but it looked funny. It looks like you literally. You just threw it back home but draymond green one up. Tom Green through and alleyoop off the backboard to no one. No one on Sunday it a second quarter. He had the ball on the break. He really should have attack the rim cory. Joseph trying to get back green had layup. I mean you could have gone in. But for some reason he decides to go pure House of highlights here and he just shrugs the ball off the backboard to I guess his trailing ailing teammate Glen Robinson the third I mean he's the closest he sort of jobs but it's nowhere near him and there's like two other guys in the way that would have been I mean it would have been an all time. Highlight highlight somehow Glen. Robinson got over both of those guys for the dunk but felt like draymond had about two steps on the defender. He did get a lamp he did he did. I mean yeah maybe he saw like the corners is like Glen Robinson. The third that's a slam dunk. Champion winner right there. All he didn't the dunk contest was dunk. Oh that's that's right. I think that I thought he did make highlights still true whether it's super cool or super awful you got on the super awful. This time kings crushed the warriors. One hundred seventy nine yeah despite Sacramento turning the ball over twenty nine times and they still won one hundred to seventy nine. What was going on this weekend But draymond man I was just at a guy we have not talked about at all. He's averaging nine six and six. He shooting forty one percent from the floor and twenty six point five percent from three. I mean look. There's reading of course we're we're not talking about them at all but while he is how did he get that extension. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Yeah now I now and I thought a thought I hadn't it turns out he does need superstars around to look a little bit better still. I still want him on my team but I mean not now the situation. He's a great playmaker when he is the third playmaker on a team but when they're running him out there sometimes it feels like as point guard. That's how you're getting seventy nine nine points. I do you guys think James Harden will outscore the Bulls at some point. Seventy three right now. Is the low water mark. Seventy nine is pretty close harden I mean. Is it more likely that a team scores fewer than seventy three or that hardened scores more than San Mateo Heart. Yes I think that's more like I think it's way harder to school. Less than seventy three just had a weekend or whatever it was before fifty houses. Yeah put me down for heart heart and more likely scored seventy three war. That'd be that'd be crazy. One hundred percent convinced. The three point record for maids in a game is being broken. This year I don't I'll see how the Klay Thompson fourteen years like had like you were saying we've at somatic. Whatever feels like every second game? Somebody's doing that. So there are losers of the weekend again. Tweet Atas Hashtag no ducts. If we miss you brought up Quick skeets the the Draymond Green. He's not doing a lot of scoring Air Corinne of the athletic. It came up with a new staff this weekend. It's called the Ghazal because Markelle soul. He's not doing a lot of scoring either but he impacts the game in a heck of a lot of ways always the goal is when a player record least five boys and five assists in a game but shoots four or fewer field goal attempts. It's tougher than you think. Only twelve gazelles have been recorded throughout the league. This year doesn't very often but draymond green couple years he is. The active leader thought his career with twenty three. He's trying to catch Dennis Rodman Rodman. Who would be the second all time? He's only got thirty four The problem for him. Yeah I guess so. WHO's number one? I'm no no I should probably should have had that. I think it might be nate. McMillan sweet wow really recorded fifty four career goals. Yeah it looks like twenty more than any other player. So you're telling me nate. McMillan had fifty four games where he had at least five years. At least five is this but didn't shoot the ball. Four Times hundred percent is the point guard mead. And he wasn't a terrible shoot. He's a real point. Yeah that's fascinating. That's that's a good one. Yeah the goal Seoul. Let's get to tweet of the night tweet over now. To The tweet of the night is essentially the advice rafters head coach. Nick nurse received from the legend Phil Jackson when he took over for doing Casey in the summer of if twenty eighteen. That's summer nurse. Spent some time with Jackson at Phil's home in Montana so here's a cool story As transcribed by Chris Chris O'Leary of of Raptors Dot Com. What or how Nick nurse described his stay in Montana the three days. It was breakfast lunch and dinner then talking late into the night finally finally on the last dinner we were sitting in these rocking chairs and outside. He says I want to leave you with two things before you go. This is nursery saying fills Advice for for the first one he said. Don't underestimate the basketball. God's you've been hired to make the decisions that are best for the team at all times. The second thing is I want you to imagine you've got a sort one is sharp. And you're going to have to prod these guys you're GONNA have to get on get on guys asses you're GonNa have to push him. You'RE GONNA have to make them play. You'RE GONNA have to get them to guard already GONNA have to get them to do all that stuff but every now and then I want you to turn that sort around and look the handle and that handle is going to represent compassion that you understand where they come from and what they're going through. It's a good thing to keep in mind. That's true from Chris. Third third third thing Phil Jackson said. What's coming up? And Puff Puff Pass. Let's get it on. Turn that soared around on yourself. Deep deep so the nurse was there in Montana three days a little bit of a coach summit. That's pretty cool hanging sword summit just another another raptors related. Little news item I saw from the weekend. Search box has a new documentary out on on his unbelievable story coming before he came from making the NBA becoming a champion champion. And I guess at the Qa believe is up in Toronto. He saw Azam must've asked him about co is shot like the four bouncer and Serge talked about how he nearly was like. And I never really thought about this. But he's like yeah nearly jumped up and was gonna like trying tip it in tried to. He's like I just didn't I didn't try like wow. That's sort of wild thing about serve opportunities. Hey the Basel was going off. But in that that moment your dislike once it hits that bounce and doesn't go directly in a no and you do that. Yeah what crazy. What what if no doubt I love it? Pick him results presented by cash up. This segment is brought to you by cash APP. The number one finance APP in the APP store store cash up is the easiest way to send money to your friends by the way. If you WANNA send me money my cash tag is Gaylord Menendez so please feel Oh free. The money will go to good use. I promise Bakhashab does way more than that cash is also the easiest way to try to grow your money with the new investment feature unlike investing tools that force you to buy entire shares of stock cash up. Let you instantly invest as little or as as much as you want this way you can still own a piece of any stock with just one dollar. Brokerage services are provided by cash up investing a subsidiary area of square and member S. P. C.. 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You know this will. Aw We're having a week off and Christmas so we're going to lose a bunch of games on so we got about a week left and we're back before the new year. What's our game tonight? Portland Trailblazers visiting the Phoenix Suns. Tonight boylans cooled off a bit five and five in their last ten and our friends. The Phoenix Suns Suns. Also little cool not so sunny out there right now. They've lost four of six basically a coin flip but the suns are favored by at one point. Five at home who you got. Oh Sun's coming off that trip to Mexico Saturday you gotTa have. The Avocado Hangover in. Phoenix is said Oh boy I'm GONNA GO PORTLAND. I'm going Portland to win the game. That's one they gotTA SORTA go and get to help their playoff chances here these are going to be the teams that are going to be bad so other sitting tenant sixteen. Yeah they're they're surprisingly ten sixteen only a game and a half back of eighth seventh and eighth or sub five hundred teams. I got blazers. We have a plight yet. You needed that. New Decision Helps Nice to have go ahead relining but in the chair. Yeah non-stop non-stop. Flight is from ecstasy to Phoenix. Our A two and three and a half shorter far west able. Maybe maybe the time change in there. Maybe it's two and a half. Yeah okay cool cool. What do you think recovered from that? Two and a half hour flight on Saturday Mel. How far is the flight from Portland? PHOENIX ooh. That's probably two and a half hours to me. Losing on mountain there amount by God's tires there's places to I have more faith in Lillard. How long would it take you to ride an e bike from Portland? Fifty five hours ago about the one that was on last night gets up to fifteen miles per hour. Fifteen point five. I think what. What's the criminals in Atlanta pretty fit? And if they're running fifteen miles now but with on a fit fit fit like healthy. Yeah but isn't it. It's not a foot right right right. I thought it was like a pedal radio. Scooter exclude all right. Well I got the Sun all right there we go swerving. He's got Phoenix at home. They gotTa Win by two points or more everybody else asks. The Blazers is going to be a wild week. Here in the know dunk softness awesome. PODCAST GONNA be pumping out this week. Because we want a bank a few for the Christmas week. We are taking off a week. But we'll have some podcasts up so don't you worry about that. We got the daily show all week long though. Thanks for joining us today. If you're not a member of the athletic come on now is the perfect time to get in the game or yeah giving us a Christmas gift. Forty percents off your subscription subscription today Goto the athletic dot com slash no dunks. We'll see you guys tomorrow. You heard here. I have a great time. turn-up love you guys awesome. Thanks X joining us. I remember the Christmas season. It's very very busy tactic. He might have to grab some fast food. 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