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Cheung Tze-keung Pt. 2
"This episode features discussions of kidnapping and violence that some people may find offensive listener. Discretion is advised especially for children under thirteen may twenty third nineteen ninety six thirty one year old businessman. Victor Li sat locked inside a dark room trying to make sense of what was happening to him. It had only been a few hours since he had left his office. In Hong Kong to visit his father now he was the prisoner of armed assailants. Who had kidnapped him off. The sidewalk and thrown into a van has the long hours past. Victor grew increasingly uncomfortable. He hadn't gone to the bathroom in hours and his bound. Arms and legs were beginning to cramp anxiety flooded. His mind did his father. No he was missing. Would anyone be able to find him? His thoughts were interrupted by the return of his captors. The men blindfolded Victor and jostled him outside into a waiting van as they drove victor. Try to remain calm. Was it all over or was he about to die? This is hostage. Apar- cast original every week. We tell the stories behind the most captivating hostage situations and the people inside them. We'll also cover. The psychological tactics used in kidnapping situations. And what the human brain does when held captive Irma Blanco. And I'm Carter Roy. You can find episodes of hostage and all other park cast originals for free on spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts to stream hostage for free on spotify. Just open the APP type hostage in the search bar at par cast. We are grateful for you our listeners. You allow us to do what we love. Let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and Instagram at podcast and twitter at podcast network? This is our second episode of one of Hong. Kong's most notorious gangsters Cheung Kong and ransom kidnappings he committed in nineteen ninety six and nineteen ninety-seven last week. We discussed chauncey early life. And how his obsession with wealth led him to commit to ransom kidnappings as part of a master plan to extort the ten wealthiest men in Hong Kong? His first target was thirty one year old. Victor Lee the son of Hong Kong's wealthiest man Li ka-shing this week we'll delve into the fallout of lease kidnapping. And how it inspired Chung to go after the forty seven year old property development tycoon. Walter Kwok will also discuss. How an unexpected cooperation? Between Hong Kong and mainland China ultimately led to Chung's demise when sixty eight year old billionaire Li ka-shing into his front door on the night of May Twenty Third Nineteen Ninety six. He was expecting to see his son. Victor apologized for being so late instead. He found himself face to face with the infamous criminal. Forty-one-year-old chauncey calm and four other armed. Men Leave recognized Chung immediately. He was wanted by the police for multiple crimes including two high profile robberies at the Kai. Tak Airport the second of which had been the largest cash robbery in Hong Kong's history. There was hardly a person in Hong Kong. Who didn't know Chung secons name as Hong Kong's wealthiest Man Lee knew? It was no coincidence that the thief had chosen his front door to knock on but nothing could have prepared him for what Chong was about to say. The criminal informed Lee that he had captured his son. Victor and if Lee ever wanted to see him again he would have to pay two billion Hong Kong dollars now. We was stunned. He asked where they had taken. Victor but Chong shook his head and repeated the demand. Two billion dollars or victor was dead. Shaking Lee tried to assess how he could gather the money he knew as well as Chong that if anyone could access billions of dollars at a moment's notice it was him his company. Cheung Kong Industries had made him a multi-billionaire and victor was in line for the throne but Lee wasn't worried about the money or his company. He just wanted his son back on your shortland. A professor in political economy assesses that in kidnapping for ransom cases. The hostage is returned alive about ninety percent of the time on. This is because the kidnapper is usually willing to negotiate in feasible deal can often be reached. Shortland also stresses that when faced with a ransom kidnapper dilemma. One should not immediately give in to the criminals demands. The hostage taker is likely to interpret this as evidence that more money is available and they will continue to up the ransom amount. Instead shortland advises keeping the criminal in the dark about one's financial resources. The captive will typically be released for a fraction of the original demand of course most individuals when faced with a kidnapper. Aren't thinking like rational business people. They're more concerned with the release of their loved. Ones and their minds are racing with worst case scenarios like torture and execution but wittingly or not Li ka-shing did the right thing shaking. He told Chung that he couldn't gather so much money at a moment's notice but he would try to come up with what he could. He certainly didn't give so much money lying about in his home. Leah's Chung if he could go to the bank for a withdrawal but the criminal shook his head this could arale suspicion and possibly alert the authorities when cheeky move on lease part and the whole plan could fall apart Lee understood and said he would do his best but he knew there was no way together that much money from inside the house under the supervision of Chung and his men Lee drained every hiding place and wallet in his home. He tried to come up with enough cash and valuables to satisfy the steep ransom demand. All the while worrying about his poor son finally having exhausted all his immediate resources. Li presented Chung with his loot. He knew it wasn't enough but he hoped Chung would settle for it surely he couldn't be expected together two billion if he wasn't even allowed to go to the bank. Lee watched with dread as the men counted their spoils. They were one billion short. Chung glared at Lea- incredulous. He could hardly believe that. A man as wealthy as Li ka-shing could only cough up half the amount on a smaller scale. Chong himself knew what it meant to be wealthy. His criminal escapades had paid off and his double life was lavish to him. Money was something to gamble with and enjoy and Chong's own home reflected. This opulence but Lee was a different breed. He was shrewd he invested. And he certainly didn't keep two billion dollars lying about his comparatively modest mansion once again. Li explained that he couldn't come up with two billion unless John allowed him to go to the bank and for the first time the criminal considered it he could get away with the full amount. If everything went smoothly but ultimately Chung couldn't risk it. If there was one place he had sworn never to go back to. It was prison. Besides one billion dollars was a lot of money. Five Times the amount he had obtained in his last airport robbery and it was plenty to fund his lavish lifestyle but grudgingly. He agreed to settle for one billion dollars half his original ask. He ordered Li ka-shing to pack up the money for him as Lee placed the cash. In bags he has Chong why he was doing this. Chung replied. I take unconventional steps to get rich. Money is the most important thing in life. But it's only me who can get away with kidnapping tycoons Charleena's men grabbed the bags of cash. Jong delivered a final warning if Lee or victor ever told the police about the kidnapping they would be dead. We nod and watched as the vans sped off into the night. Now all he could do was wait hoping that Chong would hold up his end of the bargain meanwhile victor was locked inside. Chun's hideout just over the border in mainland China. It had only been a few hours since his capture when his captors finally returned they blindfolded Victor and hurried him outside into a van as they drove. Victor imagined the worst. Perhaps they were taking him away to be murdered. His body could be buried somewhere. It would never be found and victor's family would never know why their son had disappeared. It was all too confusing and sickening for victor to come to grips with a few hours later. The van rolled to a stop. The car doors opened in several hands helped victor as he stumbled onto the sidewalk. He felt the crisp night air on his skin has one of his captors began untying his blindfold as it fell away. Victor recognized his surroundings. He was standing in the driveway of his father's house. In deep water. Bay Hong Kong Victor was bewildered. Was He being released? Was his family going to be harmed. He turned around and for the first time. Locked eyes with his captor the infamous Chunky Kong as victor stared at Chung. He could hardly register who this person was and what they wanted but before he could make sense of the situation. Chong stepped forward. He grabbed victor's face leaned in and planted a kiss on his forehead. Then he told victor he had been a good boy and he promised never to harm him or his family again back in his hideout. Chon divided the spoils amongst his comrades keeping forty percent for himself. He was happy that it pulled off. Such a new and brave stunt it was proof to Chung that. His master plan was feasible if he could kidnap the son of the wealthiest man in China and get away with it then he could kidnap anyone especially the rest of China's tycoons and he had stuck to his personal motto never to physically harm someone unless absolutely necessary. It wouldn't be long before he made his next move coming up. Chunky Kong targets his next victim. Podcast listeners you enjoy stories about crime. 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Or wherever you get your podcasts. Now back to the story in nineteen ninety six forty one year old gangster Chung Tikan completed phase one of his plan to kidnap the ten richest men in Hongkong. He had successfully captured thirty one year. Old Victor Li and victor's father sixty eight year old multi-billionaire Li ka-shing had paid one billion Hong Kong dollars for his son's release. It was the largest ransom in Hong Kong history. One billion dollars would have lasted many people a lifetime but Chung wasn't the average person he was addicted to gambling and unbridled spending. Wouldn't be long before he needed more cash but first he had to wait and make sure the police weren't after him for Victor's kidnapping. This could raise publicity. Putting Hong Kong's other wealthy citizens on Edge Chung decided to bide his time yet as he dipped into his new money. He couldn't help. But think of Li ka-shing here was Hong Kong's richest man and even he didn't spend money the way that Chung did instead Lee saved and invested it. Perhaps this was the secret to his enormous wealth. Chong mold is over and gradually. A new idea occurred to him. He would ask Li ka-shing himself. It had been weeks since the kidnapping and both Li ka-shing and Victor Li had returned to work at their family's company Cheung Kong Industries. They were eager to move on with their lives. Neither had approached the police for fear of inciting revenge. They were simply thankful. The ordeal was over and hopeful that John would stick to his promise. Never to bother them again. But Chung had other ideas when Li ka-shing answered his phone one evening he couldn't believe his ears. Cheung Kong was on the other end Lee stomach filled with dread as he thought of his other son. Victor's brother Richard But Chong quickly reassured Lee that he was asking about a simple business matter. He wanted advice on finances specifically what he should do to grow his one billion dollars should he invest his new money in stocks or did Lee recommend real estate. Lee was flabbergasted. How dare song ask him what to do with his money? He told Chung that he only had one piece of advice. Take the money and start an honorable life. Leave him and his family alone. Chogm considered this possibility. Perhaps he could take his wife. Luo Yin Yang and relocate to somewhere. He had no reputation. He could have a fresh start. And maybe even build a business likely ka-shing's empire Cheung Kong Industries but Chung didn't have the tenacity to do it. His gambling addiction his tastes for luxury and his greed were too powerful. Besides the only trade Chung had ever known was that of being a criminal he doubted he could ever succeed at anything else. At least not with the kind of luck he was used to and so after a year of waiting to make sure the police weren't onto him. John was confident that the time was right. He's zeroed in on his next target. Forty-seven-year-old property developer. Walter Kwok in nineteen ninety-seven Walter. Kwok was in the prime of his life. He was part of one of the wealthiest families in Hong Kong and he and his brothers ran their late. Father's company Sung Hung Kai properties. They were responsible for some of Hong. Kong's most famous commercial buildings and large apartment complexes Walter was the company's chairman and chief executive he was capable and quick thinking a born leader and if there is one thing he knew best. It was to negotiate. Walter was an expert at honing deals for his family's company and he knew that nothing was ever worth as much as the original asking price but he had no idea that these skills which soon come into play as September nineteen ninety-seven approached Chung. Tea Calm had settled on Walter as his target. He knew Walter Schedule Front back where he lived and what kind of car he drove. Finally he was ready to make his move on the evening of September. Twenty Ninth Nineteen ninety-seven. Walter was on his way home when Chun and his men cornered his limousine and forced Walter outside they blindfolded Walter bound his arms and legs and wrestled him into their waiting Van. Walter kicked and yelled but it was no use. He was at the mercy of ruthless criminals. Now inside the van Walter was disoriented an anxious. Who were these men? And what did they have against him? It wouldn't be long before he found out a few hours later. The car came to a stop. The men jumped out dragging their terrified captive with them the unbound Walter's limbs and untied his blindfold before shoving him inside a small wooden crate. Walter was terrified. He tried to steady his breath and focus on the small noises around him. An hour passed and the crate finally reopened one of the men handed Walter a bowl of roast pork and rice but Walter shook his head. The man urged him to eat and shut the door. Walter Obediently Chewed Food. But he could barely taste it. His mind was racing with possibilities. Food meant that he was being kept alive but this could also mean he would be here a long time. His thoughts were interrupted as the door to his crate opened again. It was Chung Secon Jong Thrust prepaid phone into Walter's trembling hands in demanded that he call his family. Walter slowly shook his head. There was no way he was getting his family involved. The kidnappers could have him but he would not put his brothers his wife Wendy or their three children in harm's way but Chung remained firm. He demanded that Walter call his wife and request one billion dollars in ransom money. The same amount he had received from Li ka-shing to Chun. This was a reasonable request for someone as wealthy as Walter. If Li ka-shing could access one billion dollars at a moment's notice his family could certainly do whatever it took to gather the same amount but walters mind was made up under no circumstances. Was he about to involve his family. Besides if there was one thing Walter understood it was a negotiation especially when money was involved. He defiantly handed the phone back to Chung. He said that a Chung wanted to negotiate. They could do it here. One on one Sean was astonished. No one not even his own comrades ever dared to defy him yet hear was Walter Kwok a defenseless captive refusing to comply with an order furious. Chung ordered his men to beat up. Walter they descended upon the billionaire punching and kicking him psychologist anger. Management Specialist Bernard Golden. Phd explains that control. Tactics often stem from feelings of being slighted. He says they may attempt to control you in reaction to an intense sense of slight they experience when your thoughts feelings behavior don't exactly aligned with how they believe you should be in the case of Chung. He had an idea of how Walter's kidnapping was supposed to go. And how compliant Walter was going to be and when this didn't happen. He resorted to the only means. He had left to assert his control violence. He had a long standing belief that violence should be a last resort and in his. Is this situation. Called for brute. Force after several minutes of this savage beating Walter was bruised and coughing up blood now. John was confident that his captive would give in. But Walter still refused to make the call. Chung glared at Walter. He was determined to get his money. No matter how nasty things got he would simply come back tomorrow. On September thirtieth twenty four hours after Walter's kidnapping Chunky Kong was confident. That is hostage would reconsider the offer to call his family and asked for the ransom. But when Chung Open Walters crate that morning. Their captive was no more willing to call his family than he had been yesterday. In fact Walter was sure that by now his family would be looking for him. His wife would be wondering why he hadn't come home yet and his brother would expect him at work. One of Chung's men gave him another bowl of pork and rice. Which Walter Willingly Eight? He knew he had to stay. Strong Wind Walter was finished. Eating Chon handed him the phone once more and again Walter refuse to call his family. Chung gave the signal and his men descended on Walter once more. They beat him mercilessly until he nearly blacked out. But Walter was resolute either. Chung dealt with him or nothing. This vicious cycle continued for one more day by the end. Walter could barely eat. His breathing was labored and his body was crumpled from pain and so on October. Third Nineteen ninety-seven. His fourth day in captivity. Walter finally asked for the phone trembling. He called his wife Wendy. When Wendy answered she was beside herself with relief she hadn't heard from her husband for days and no one knew where he was. But Walter's voice was not reassuring he sounded hurt and out of breath speaking was taking every last ounce of his strength and Wendy could tell something was deeply wrong at this point. Walter had given up all hope on a negotiation. He simply wanted to go home alive. He told Wendy that she needed to put together. One billion dollars for the ransom up next the police close in on Chung Secon now back to the story on September Twenty Ninth Nineteen Ninety seven forty two year old Hong Kong criminal Chunky Kong kidnapped forty seven year. Old Property tycoon. Walter Kwok and transported him over the border to a hideout in China at first wall to refuse to call this family to obtain the one billion Hong Kong dollars ransom money that is capture was demanding but after four days of merciless beatings. He finally gave in and called his wife. Wendi it remains unclear whether Walters family had yet gone to the police about their brother's disappearance but at this point they knew that their brothers safety depended on keeping the negotiations a secret. Finally Chong and Walter arranged a secret meeting between his mother Kwan. Chow Ching in one of his brothers in downtown Hong Kong's financial district. They met at one of the luxury apartments owned by. Walter's family there Kwong Xiaojing and her son worked out a final ransom amount with Cheung six hundred million Hong Kong dollars when the meeting had finished. The ransom amount was placed into twenty large duffle bags in transported by two. Mercedes to a quiet street in the financial district. Joan and his accomplices met the cars and drove away with the cash. Walter's family could only hope that Chung would make good on his end of the bargain on October. Sixth Chong and his men transported Walter over the border back into Hong Kong. His family found him inside a local village house packed inside his wooden crate. Chung's partying warning to both Walter and his family was that they should never speak to the police or media about the incident unless they wanted. More trouble Chung's second kidnapping had been more difficult than the first but it had still panned out. He had sufficiently intimidated. A billion dollar family and their company into quietly seating hundreds of millions of dollars without alerting. The police and he was more confident than ever that he could continue his plan to kidnap the ten wealthiest men in Hong Kong. He would do the same thing as he had done following Victor Lease Kidnapping in Nineteen ninety-six way to make sure no one was onto him before going after his next target but a plan for his capture was taking form in the months following. Chun's second contact with Lee Shing. The multi-billionaire used his connections to quietly reach out to Hong Kong police urging them to pursue Chong. The police informed Lee that well. Chung was on their radar. He would be extremely difficult to track down. Like many of Hong Kong's criminals. He made use of the proximity of China to hide out. In between crimes beginning in nineteen ninety seven Hong Kong was fully reabsorbed into China following. Its one hundred year lease to Britain but two decades before with Hong Kong and China had settled on a firm one country two systems policy. This meant that while Hong Kong was freshly incorporated as a territory of China it retained its own legal system and as long as Cheung Kong was hiding out in China Hong Kong authorities could not pursue him. Li ka-shing was well aware of this barrier but he nonetheless used his status urged. The police to concentrate on Chong's capture. Finally he told About his son's kidnapping this changed everything. A one billion dollar ransom kidnapping was plenty of reason to go after Chung earnestly. The police understood with this could mean for the rest of Hong Kong's upper class so far no criminal had attempted this kind of feet in Hong Kong and Chung could not be allowed to continue even as Walter. Kwok's kidnapping was happening. The police were already at work trying to flush Chong from his hiding place. In China they targeted known members of Hong Kong's triad gangs networked which Chung loosely belonged. Police track down members both in and out of prison harassing them into dispelling information but the Chhaya ad was a loyal tight knit brotherhood and asking someone to turn on. Fellow member was difficult. Meanwhile Chong was living the high life with his ransom money. He was gambling millions at a time and had even taken his wife and children on a vacation to Johannesburg South Africa but his crimes were also continuing as Walter. Kwok's kidnapping secretly unfolded in Nineteen ninety-seven. The police were already in hot pursuit and finally his kidnapping attempts blown wide open following the arrest of one of his oldest friends and associates yet. Kifune Chong attempted his third kidnapping that of Hong Kong's Chief Secretary for Administration Anson Chan but this failed miserably then in January of Nineteen Ninety. Eight police uncovered eight hundred kilograms of explosives planted at several of Hong Kong's government buildings. They traced it back to John. This was perhaps Chung's most serious crime and the police were now offering bribes and reduced sentences for Cooperative Triad Gang members. Eventually a few came forward in a rare collaboration with the Chinese police the authorities were finally able to close in on Chauncey Kung's hideout in China in August of Nineteen Ninety eight. They arrested him on multiple charges including kidnapping robbery and possession of explosives. Still Chong was hopeful. As a Hong Kong criminal he fully expected to be transported across the border from China for a trial in Hong Kong. Moreover Hong Kong did not utilize capital punishment whereas China did if a person committed a crime in Hong Kong but was arrested in mainland China or vice versa. They would typically be extradited to the appropriate side of the border and tried and punished there as the majority of Chunky Kung's offenses were committed in Hong Kong. It was to be assumed that Chung be tried there however in a very controversial move. Hong Kong and Chinese court sidestepped the One Country. Two Systems Policy and decided that Chung could be tried in Guangzhou China. This had never been done before people. In Hong Kong were particularly shocked they valued their justice system as being more fair than China besides Chung was essentially their criminal. The bulk of his crimes had been perpetrated against Hong Kong citizens. One particularly furious onlooker was Gladys Li the former chairman of the Hong Kong Bar Association. She speculated that under such changes a Hong konger could potentially be arrested in China for something perfectly legal in Hong Kong but you're legal in mainland China and therefore face persecution. She felt Chong's case could spell this sort of disaster for Hong Kong citizens as she feared for Hong Kong's economy lawyer Ivan Tang echoed these concerns citing that the failure to extradite. Chong to Hong Kong was also the death of Hong Kong's One Country Two Systems agreement with China even as the details of the kidnappings remained largely private. Chung's case became an overnight sensation. Hongkongers were coming out to protest the trial of Cheung Kong on the basis of their own liberty. No one questioned chunks guilt or that he should be brought to but the blatant sidestepping of one country two systems made them angry who meanwhile in prison John continued to play the part of a high rolling gangster in spite of his legal situation. He relish the attention and his infamy the tales of his gambling exploits were known both inside and outside the prison giving him a sense of pride he becomes somewhat of a folk hero to many people and he wanted them to remember the legacy of big spender by the time. Chauncey trial began on October. Eighth Nineteen Ninety Eight. He had exhausted all of appeals. There was no hope of extradition to Hong Kong from the First Day Chung Z. Kong knew there was little hope of ever again being a free man in a surprising move. He made a full confession on that first day of the proceedings. No more big spender bravado. It was all over now. Hong Kong citizens might have been mad but the world believed he was guilty as he sat in the Guangzhou courtroom John and his lawyer stated repeatedly that his crimes were committed in Hong Kong in a last ditch effort to have him extradited and to avoid the death penalty. There protests fell on deaf ears. Chung was found guilty on all charges and sentenced to on December Fifth Nineteen Ninety Eight. The forty three year old criminal was led out of his prison cell and out into the middle of an empty field. They're a firing squad was waiting for him. He bowed his head and said one. Final prayer then he died. Jong was now dead but to victims still had to move on with their lives. Robert T muller a professor of psychology reports that no matter how long they're held hostage most kidnapping victims deal with some sort of emotional aftermath. They may feel depressed have vivid nightmares and flashbacks and often become hyper vigilant and very aware of their surroundings. Both Victor Li and Walter Kwok displayed these effects following his kidnapping. Victor continue to wrong Cheung Kong industries and expand his father's company into several new areas including telecommunications retail imports. He is now married with children. Those closest to victor however claim that he is still very suspicious of strangers and has a general around people after the incident. He employed a personal security team and he's rarely seen in public without them. Other victim Walter. Kwok suffered silently for many years not wanting to come forward or seek help for depression and lingering trauma ultimately affected his family's business where he had been the top leader Walter's brother Raymond told reporters that after the kidnapping Walter was unable to fulfil his duties. As Chairman of Sung Hung Kai properties. He was suspicious of strangers and overly conscious of how other people were treating him by two thousand eight. He was asked to step down from Sung. I but Walter did find success in his future. After leaving his family's company he went on to found his own successful development company until his death in two thousand eighteen. Thanks again for tuning into hostage and we'll be back next week with another episode. You can find more episodes of hostage and all other podcasts. For Free on spotify not only spotify already. Have all of your favorite music now? Spotify is making easy for you to enjoy. All of your favorite podcast originals. 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Cheung Tze-keung Pt. 1
"This episode features discussions of kidnapping and violence that some people may find offensive listener discretion is advised especially for children under thirteen may twenty third nineteen ninety six thirty one year old. Victor Li had just finished a long day at work. He had to hurry if you wanted to make it to dinner at his father's home in the affluent deep Water Bay area of Hong Kong as the son of a business tycoon. Victor knew he was destined for great things he had received a top education at Stanford University and was poised to take over his father's company. Some day now. He only hoped he could live up to his dad's legacy nicknamed Superman by Hong Kong locals. Victor's father sixty eight year old. Li ka-shing had built his empire from the ground up. Victor on the other hand had only ever known wealth his whole life had been filled with privilege and he wondered if Hong Kong would embrace him the way they had his father. These thoughts weighed on victor's mind as he made his way outside to the waiting Limo. If he had been paying more attention he might have noticed the forms lurking in the shadows as victor reached for the car door. Five men emerged from the darkness and grabbed him. They shoved a blindfold over his eyes. But not before. He caught a glimpse of what they were carrying machine. Guns who ever these men were. They weren't taking him to see his father. This is hostage a podcast original. Every week we tell the stories behind the most captivating hostage situations and the people inside them will also cover. The psychological tactics used in kidnapping situations. And what the human brain does win held captive. I'm Irma Blanco. I'm Carter Roy. You can find episodes of hostage and all other park asked originals for free on spotify or wherever you listen. Podcasts just dream hostage for free on spotify just opened the APP and type hostage in the search bar at par cast. Were grateful for you our listeners. You allow us to do what we love. So let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and Instagram at par cast and twitter at podcast network. This is our first episode on one of Hong Kong's most ruthless crime bosses Chunky Kong. His obsession with wealth drove him to commit to kidnappings for ransom this week. We'll discuss Chung secons early life. And how his introduction to underground gambling fueled his obsession with wealth and status this led to increasingly dangerous crimes culminating with the kidnapping of his first victim. Victor Lee the son of one of Hong Kong's richest businessmen next week. We'll examine how one successful ransom left. Chum confident enough to try another will also explore the controversial agreement between Hong Kong and Chinese courts that ultimately decided his fate John. T-com was an unlikely kidnapper but his love of money and his criminal background led him to attempt his most notorious crimes. The kidnapping of Victor Li in one thousand nine hundred ninety six and Walter. Kwok in one thousand nine hundred ninety seven to truly understand criminal like Chunky Kong. One would have to be acquainted with Hong Kong's history of gang violence and how it came to be. The island was first seated from the Chinese to the British in eighteen. Forty two at the end of the First Opium War in eighteen ninety eight. China agreed to lease the island to Britain for a period of one hundred years. Meaning that come. Nineteen ninety-seven Hong Kong would return to Chinese rule. Under British rule Hong Kong became an international trading port and experienced economic growth at a much faster pace than its neighbor. China differences in language and political ideology further divided. The two regions Hong Kong had a democratic government with elected officials while China was under a communist regime when the two countries did finally merge in the nineties the transition wouldn't be easy thus in the nineteen eighties both countries preemptively agreed on a principle called one country two systems which would allow Hong Kong to retain separate legal and judicial systems. Once they join China Hong Kong citizens would also retain some liberties not guaranteed to the Chinese such as freedom of speech and assembly essence. Hong Kong would fall under Chinese jurisdiction but it would retain a separate identity when it came to internal politics. These rights are insured to Hong Kong until twenty forty seven however one country two systems played perfectly into the hands of certain criminals. Those smart enough to commit crimes on one side of the border and hide out on the other. Neither Hong Kong nor China is a stranger to organized crime or gang activity. The region's most prolific organization called the triads originated in Seventeenth Century. China and has continued to gain power ever since triads are expected to accept each other as blood brothers never failing to offer a fellow member food shelter or financial assistance. There's a strict hierarchy to the gang and an elaborate initiation process complete with sacred poetry and ceremonial speeches. Prospective members also agree to the thirty six oaths elaborate code of conduct that spells out how they must honor their brotherhood protect their reputations and never betrayed the organization the punishment for defying. Any of the thirty six oaths is grizzly. The offending gang member will be killed by five thunderbolts or by a myriad of swords in effect they could be executed by a firing squad or stabbed by an onslaught of weapons. When Hong Kong came. Under British rule in eighteen forty two the triad were a prime target for police so the gang broke into smaller factions. Instead of weakening them the strategy only increased the triads power by the nineteen sixties. There were at least sixty different triad gangs in Hong Kong and police estimated that one in six citizens belong to one. The triads made their money primarily through the drug trade but they also often resorted to illegal gambling. Extortion fraud or prostitution for a time. The triads were too prevalent and powerful for the police to touch between nineteen fifty and nineteen seventy triads. Were all but running. Hong Kong's Kowloon Walled City. Originally in old Chinese military Fort Calhoun was the only section of Hong Kong that China had refused to hand over to the British in Eighteen. Ninety Eight Kowloon Walled City technically remained a part of China but even China lacked a clear initiative for the area as a result it was something of a no-man's-land crammed with over thirty thousand people. The area became a hotbed for crime violence theft and drugs by the mid nineteen hundreds. It was so out of control. The police adopted an unofficial hands-off policy for the area. They were no longer going to risk their lives trying to control the neighborhood. Outsiders were too afraid to enter. Kowloon and bus drivers and Waste Management. Employees refused to set foot inside its parameters either. The triads heyday was limited. In one thousand nine hundred eighty seven. The British and Chinese governments announced a joint plan to Demolish Kowloon walled city. The Hong Kong Police Force also introduced the Organized Crime and Triad Bureau specifically meant to combat gang crimes as they inevitably spilled out of the ruin neighborhood by the Early Nineteen Ninety S. The wall city had been completely torn down. Most triad activity was driven underground from this point on gang members generally stock to smaller tier targets believing the ultra wealthy. Hong Kong business tycoons to be too high profile to connected to police and therefore too risky to pursue that. None of this mattered to one criminal. Chung see Kong in nineteen fifty five Chunky Kong was born in Gangdong province China to a poor farming family in a rural mountain town. Life was so difficult that Chung sister died of starvation effort to save his wife and four year. Old Son Chung's father. Smuggled the family over the border into Hong Kong in Hong Kong. Chung's father opened an herbal drink shop and yell. Matei an area known to be frequented by criminals and gangsters but it still wasn't enough to support his family to supplement his income. Chung's father started as Zepa or illegal lottery. Stand every week. Chung watched his father collect the entry fees from the participants always kept a cut for himself before handing over the remaining pile of cash to the lucky winner. The fact that this was illegal didn't register with Cheung. All he saw for dollar signs. Emily Mendez a mental health and substance. Abuse expert explains that children who grow up around gambling. Don't always see this risky behavior as a big deal. They're more prone to develop gambling addictions as teens and young adults given their early exposure. This seemed to be the case for Chung who would become a high stakes gambler. Later in life and as a criminal he became adept at taking major risks. It was all a part of the life. He had known since childhood at School in Hong Kong. Chong a bright enthusiastic learner but he was shunned by the other students for being an immigrant from mainland China. As the school outcast Chung learn to toughen up in order to survive. He eventually fell in with some local gang members before long teenage Chung had pledged allegiance to the famous fourteen k triad as Chong became acquainted with the Organization. He no longer understood the point in continuing his education after all his father earned enough money through illegal means. Why couldn't he owned by age? Sixteen Chung had dropped out of school left his family's home and risen through the triad ranks to become a leader and he had a rap sheet to show for it. Chung had already been arrested nearly fifteen times for assault theft N. robbery police regarded him as a hardened criminal entreated him as such not giving him any leniency even though he was still a minor over the next three years the teenager was in and out of jail prison was. Chung's first losing hand. Inmates were treated more like animals than human beings and the guards thought. Nothing of denying them basic necessities. Chung was determined that once he left prison he would never return even if it meant giving up his burgeoning criminal career. Each twenty newly released from prison. John Attempted to live in accordance with the law as father helped him secure a tailoring apprenticeship but his resolution short lived while working for the Taylor. John met someone who changed his outlook on crime. Chung's coworker a man named Wong thing. She explained that. The only surefire way to become rich was through illegal means but in order to be successful. One had to be as careful and meticulous as a Taylor. Every stitch must be perfectly placed or else the whole garment unraveled armed with this. New Outlook Chong embarked on a loan shark venture which proved moderately successful with payments. Finally Rolling in two things became very clear to Cheung Kong money. Was everything an earning. It legitimately was for suckers around this time in the late seventies Chung began so sitting with gang members in the Kowloon walled city. The region was still controlled by the triad. Gang and police maintain their hands off policy. It was there that Chung learned that gambling wasn't the only way to rake in a quick payout. Armed robbery paid pretty well to street. Fighting and petty theft escalated to more dangerous ventures for Chung and he soon joined forces with another career criminal twenty-three-year-old daredevil Yip Kifune where Chung was a meticulous planner. Yip had less inhibitions. He was willing to charge into a situation. Headfirst guns blazing. If they worked together they would make a dynamic duo having joined forces. The two criminals plan their biggest heist yet. It would be bold daring and risky but if it worked they'd get the pay out of their lives coming up. Chung see Kong takes his first massive gamble. Par cast listeners. If you enjoy stories about crime mystery and the unexplained you'll absolutely love the new park cast original series supernatural with Ashley Flowers. It's hosted by Crime Junkies Ashley Flowers and you can hear new episodes every Wednesday. Almost mysteries can be solved by looking at the facts but sometimes the facts don't lead to a logical explanation and the truth lies somewhere in the unknown in supernatural with Ashley. Flowers actually takes a deep dive into the strange and surreal to explain some the world's most bizarre true crime occurrences each week. She'll dig into a different crime or mystery where the most fitting theory isn't always the most conventional from exorcisms to unsolved murders to alien abductions. Ashley will take on. The tails challenged the unexplained anti-sect the facts with a heavy helping skepticism and rationale. So are you ready to get to the bottom of history's most peculiar events? Follow supernatural with Ashley. Flowers free on spotify. Or wherever you get your podcasts. Now back to the story after joining forces with another young gangster. Yep Kifune up and coming criminal thirty-four-year-old Chunky Kong decided. The time was ripe to plan a massive heist. They would steal a shipment of Rolex watches bound for the Hong Kong airport as the two men put their plan together. Chung remembered the advice given to him by his old CO worker. Wong Chee like a Taylor. Chung had to be meticulous. Every last detail mattered in preparation for the job. Chong-in Yep hired several henchmen. Chung made sure they knew to cover their faces and move quickly to avoid being identified by the police on February. Twenty Second Nineteen Ninety Chung. Yip an a few of their associates made their way to Kai Tak airport in Hong Kong. The men were wearing bulletproof vests and carrying heavy weapons but if everything went according to plan they wouldn't need them. Chung had a code of honor. He ordered his men to never harm civilians to only fire their weapons when absolutely necessary and to act as a unit a brotherhood parked at the airports delivery bay where an armored van would be arriving with the watches. The car arrived on schedule so far. So good wants to Van. Parked Chung gave the signal. The gangs swarm the armored van waving their guns around for intimidation. The delivery guards were easily outflanked. The criminals broke open the vehicle and grabbed as much merchandise as possible loading up armfuls of the expensive watches before escaping. They had stolen millions of dollars worth of products and fled unscathed. In under a minute. They slipped across the border into China to count their loot as the brains of the operation. Chung took forty percent of the spoils for himself. Divvying up the rest. Among the other men the Rolex Heist was so successful that a year later Chung. Yup and they're men decided to plan another robbery. This time they would target. An armored car said to be carrying seventeen point five million. Us dollars in thirty five million Hong Kong dollars not only was the potential loot going to be a bigger take than the watch heist. It was a lot riskier to an armored car would have trained security guards wielding automatic weapons. Had to be perfect if the gang didn't want to be caught or killed with this in mind Chung Yep and three other gangsters suited up with their own semiautomatic weapons then on July Twelfth Nineteen ninety-one. They headed back to the KAI. Tak Airport took their places and waited. When the armored car arrived Chung gave the go-ahead chaos ensued but the five gang members easily. Outmatched the armed guards in minutes Chung Yip and the others were driving off with approximately twenty million. Us dollars in cash. It was the largest single cash haul in Hong Kong's history to date once safely across the Chinese border. The thieves divided the money as before. Chong kept the largest share of the profits but divided the rest fairly among his men triads believed in brotherhood and taking care of each other. If Chung got rich they all would and rich he was Chung. Now have the money to do anything he pleased. And he used to indulge in his favorite hobby gambling every casino visit followed the same pattern an ostentatious yellow lamborghini rolled up to the entrance. A man stepped out. John was rather small with bushy eyebrows was always dressed in designer labels from head to toe. He certainly stood out in a crowd. Once inside he would immediately flagged down a cocktail server and order the most expensive whiskey on the menu. Tipping the waiter more money than they usually made in a week then. John made his way over to circle of friends where he ordered more drinks and food eventually. He switched to his preferred beverage orange juice. Chung was wary of drinking too much. He didn't want to become undignified. You had to concentrate on schmoozing and placing bets. None of his casino pals had any idea that Chung was one of the world's most notorious gangsters they all believed he was in the jewelry business. They didn't know that his only experience with jewelry stores was robbing them at gunpoint. In fact they didn't even know his real name Chong simply went by the nickname they had given him. Big Spender one night. Big Spender sat at one of the tables and started placing his bats. He won then he went again. He double down again and again. His friends looked on in awe. As the Jackpot reached the millions Chung placed his final bet and lost it all just like that. Cheung was out of what amounted to twenty five million. Us dollars his entourage expected their resident high roller to shout or flip over the table but Chung remained astonishingly calm instead. He finished his orange juice and suggested that the group continued the party at his town house. The guests were treated to a tour of big spenders apartment passing his pricey art collection which consisted of mostly tablist and Buddhist statues as well as busts of himself and a sphinx like statue of his wife. Luo Yan Fong. One guest wandered into Cheung's massive bedroom where a giant letter M. was carved into the headboard Chung explained that the m stood for money. All thanks to money. The world was at his fingertips until it all came crashing down distracted by gambling and partying. Chung it slipped a few months after the armored car heist. The police successfully identified him. As the number one suspect they put pressure on local triad members to come forward with anything tying the incidents to Chung even went after Chong's wife and shook her down for information but to no avail in the end to Chung's men turned on him and September of Nineteen Ninety one. He was tried for the armed robbery and sentenced to eighteen years in prison. We'll Chunky Kong was no stranger to life behind bars. This time was different. It was wealthy now and a respected. If elusive member of Hong Kong's high-society. He couldn't believe that the police had the audacity to lock him up in his mind. These officers were the real criminals. They took money from the taxpayers and used it to go after innocent. People like him as opposed to violent offenders. This perspective isn't uncommon among criminals. Stanton knee SAM now. A clinical psychologist reports that nearly all criminal offenders view themselves as good people. They often excuse their behavior by citing their religion and good deeds or by stating that other criminals have committed more heinous crimes than themselves while in prison. Chung claimed that he was treated. He alleged that in order to get a confession from him. Police officers hit him with sticks and whipped him with belts he also said. They tortured his wife leaving both of them with scars. Chong wasted away in prison losing any hope of speedy appeal however only eighteen months into his lengthy sentence lock was back on Chung side. During one of his appeals. A guard who was present at the Kai. Tak robbery failed to properly identify Chung. The charges were dropped in June. Nineteen ninety five. The forty year old Cheung Kong was released from prison but John was hardly in the mood to celebrate his newfound freedom. His time behind bars had left him. Extremely bitter what. Good were his promises to remain nonviolent. If he ended up in prison with the murderers anyway to make matters worse his own triad brothers had betrayed him. The UNBREAKABLE BONDS OF THE TRIAD BROTHERHOOD. Apparently could be broken. Chang's honor codes seemed irrelevant to him now. He found himself at a crossroads and decided to move forward alone. All he had to do was pick his next crime at this point. Chun had run the gamut of armed robbery yet proven to himself that he was as capable of executing seemingly impossible heists as he was small theft he felt confident that he can pull off a crime of even greater magnitude. It also had to be more lucrative. Prison HADN'T TAMED. Chung's appetite for wealth. If anything it made him more insatiable Roderick Broadhurst a professor of criminology noted that Chun's willingness to go to extremes for money isn't really uncommon. We live in a society measured by wealth and status. So it's unsurprising that when people can't earn the money they desire through conventional means. They turned to innovative. In sometimes illegal methods. Chung was no exception. He was obsessed with money and he would stop at nothing to feed his greed. With this goal in mind he settled on his most radical scheme. Yet it was going to kidnap the ten richest men Hong Kong and hold them for ransom. Coming up Chung goes after his first victim back to the story in June. Nineteen ninety-five forty-year-old. Cheung Kong had recently been released from his second stint in prison. But this time he made no effort to turn his life around and go legit he had gotten a taste of the good life and he was willing to do anything to hold onto it including kidnapping people for ransom. Chong had devised a dramatic scheme. He was going to abduct the ten wealthiest men in Hong Kong and hold them for ransom. Having settled on this plan Chung got down to the specifics who to kidnap I ultimately. He decided on thirty one year old. Victor Lee the son of one of Hong Kong's wealthiest businessmen and the heir to his father's Fortune Chauncey. Kahn had a lot in common with victor's father. Sixty eight year old. Li ka-shing neither grew up particularly wealthy and both men had taken huge risks that resulted in vast wealth. But while Chong used illegal means Li ka-shing had honed his legacy honestly in one thousand nine hundred ninety six sixty eight year old businessman. Li ka-shing was the richest man. In Asia. Hong Kongers affectionately referred to him as Superman for his quintessential rags to riches tale Li ka-shing and his family fled to Hong Kong from mainland China during the Second World War. Shortly afterwards lease father died of tuberculosis saddling. His sixteen year old son with financial responsibility for the whole family Lee began working at a factory where he was eventually promoted to manager by the age of twenty two. He had saved up enough meager earnings to open his very own plastics factory. Cheung Kong Industries Lease Company proved to be massively successful and he used his profits to branch out into other lucrative industries shrewd businessman. He invested in energy solutions technologies and building developers throughout the world as well as real estate in Hong Kong in spite of his wealth. Li ka-shing was well loved. He had a solid reputation for being a man of his word stating that a verbal yes or no is as good as a written contract and he was a very modest family man. His pride and joy in life was his son. Victor Thirty one year old. Victor had spent his formative years being groomed to take over. Cheung Kong Industries. He studied civil engineering at Stanford University before moving to Vancouver where he oversaw one of his father's subsidiary companies Husky Energy. When Victor came aboard the company was doing quite poorly but victor side as an opportunity to prove himself by one thousand nine hundred ninety Husky energy was thriving and Victor. Li had been promoted to co-chairman impressed by his sons initiative. Li ka-shing invited victor to return to Hong Kong and worked directly underneath him at Cheung Kong headquarters by Nineteen ninety-six thirty one year old. Victor was well established at Cheung Kong. Little did he know that criminal mastermind. Cheung Kong was watching his every move. Chung's men gathered information. About what time victor left home in the morning? How long it took him to get to work. What kind of car? He drove and where he went to lunch. Once Chung piece together victor schedule he discovered that on May Twenty Third Nineteen ninety-six. Victor was scheduled to visit his father's home in deep water. Bay Chung thought. This was as good a time as any to strike the evening of May Twenty Third. Victor wrapped up his last meeting for the day. He was looking forward to a quiet night with his family and his dark blue. Nissan President Limousine was waiting outside for him but Chunky Kong and four other men were waiting for him to victor. Li casually tossed his briefcase into the back seat of the Waiting Limo. But before he had a chance to slide into his seat he was blindsided. Five men tackled him shoving a blindfold over his face in a split second before he was blindfolded. Victor caught a glimpse of the assault. Rifles that Chung in the four other men were carrying you felt calloused hands. Hold his arms behind his body while someone else bound his wrists and legs with chains. Victor heard several different voices but he couldn't tell how many from what he could tell. One man was in charge. The whole ordeal happened. In a matter of seconds even victor's driver couldn't react fast enough to help Chung and his men tossed victor into a waiting truck and started driving hours past. Victor had no idea where they were headed. He was worried they had crossed the border into China or his chances of being discovered were slim after what felt like ours. Victor was dragged from the car and tossed into a small dark place that had wooden walls and no windows. This was hardly a room. It was more like a wooden crate. The kind used for shipping cargo one of the henchmen handed victor a bowl of steamed pork and rice. He accepted not knowing when or if he was going to get any more food. Victor wondered if he should just ask the man what was going on or what they wanted from him but that could potentially be more dangerous. You decided to keep his mouth shut. All he could do was wait for answers. Meanwhile at Lea- ka-shing's palatial home in Deep Water Bay Road Victor's billionaire father anxiously awaiting his arrival. Dinner was almost ready. And it wasn't like victor to be so late. Finally the doorbell rang. One of the maids went to the door. Expecting to see victor but her jaw dropped in terror when she saw a different familiar face to recognized him from the newspaper. Chunky Kong the criminal. Who Had Rob Kai Tak? Airport Chung demanded to see Li ka-shing immediately. He informed -ly that if he ever wanted to see his son again it would cost him two billion Hong Kong dollars. Thanks again for tuning into hostage each next week. We'll be back to discuss. How Chung seekonk secured the biggest ransom payment in history and how one kidnapping eventually led to another. You can find more episodes of hostage and all other par- cast originals for free on spotify. Not only to spotify already. 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Are You a Liability or an Asset? | FRIDAY FIELD NOTES
"You're a man of action you live life to the fullest compress your fears and boldly charge your own path when life knocks you down. You get back up one more time. Every time you are not easily deterred rugged zillion strong. This is your life this we are. This is who you will become at the end of the day and after all is said and done you can call yourself a man gentlemen. What is going on today. My name is brian nick. Night host and the founder of wilderness podcast movement. I'm not gonna waste any time with you guys today. Only talked about announcements and everything that you can do and how you can support this mission. But i'm not gonna waste time talking about that today. Because i honestly believe that what i'm about to share with you over the next thirty minutes or so is likely to be the most important podcast that i've done over a period of six years and i want to say that's probably over at this point over six hundred podcast and for me to claim that this is going to be the most important one I hope there's some evidence of validity to that. When i share that so we're going to get into it What i wanna do today. Is i want to talk with you about ten things. Ten comparisons to really identify whether you're an asset or liability because it's clear to me that right now in society The we need men to be assets not liabilities. And as i look around. I think there's a broad swath of the population specifically men who are acting and behaving like liabilities and they are adding value and they aren't serving and they aren't being moral and they aren't doing the things they know they should be doing and they aren't capable so not putting themselves in positions where they can become the type of assets that their families and their communities and businesses need them to be. So we're gonna talk about it today. And i want you to ask as i go through this list of ten items ten comparisons on the ask yourself whether or not you stack up now. Some of you will say well right who you to say what makes a man who are you to say. I'm an asset versa liability. All i'm going to tell you that is that i have some beliefs about myself and the kind of man i wanna be and i ask that you evaluate for yourself and i think the overwhelming majority of you will will agree with what i had to share. But if you don't that's fine. But i want you to take an honest assessment and honest evaluation and ask yourself do you stack up to these metrics and do you think these metrics are important. Do you think these are the kind of qualities and virtues and characteristics. That are going to help you perform the way that you wanna perform. And i feel like you probably want to perform to some degree. Otherwise you wouldn't be listening to this podcast so ask yourself. Do i stack up. And you're gonna find out that you fall short on some of these things as do i. I'm not positioning myself as being better than you. Some of these things. I have unlock and other things. Don't but what i wanted to do. Is i want to ask yourself. Where can i improve. How can i become more of an asset to myself. My family my business my community. My co workers my colleagues friends. Whoever it is. I interact with on a daily basis and in what areas do. I need to improve. Let's get into it number one emotional versus rational now. Please don't misunderstand me. I'm not telling you that you as a man should not have emotions that you shouldn't experience love and joy and pride and sorrow and guilt and remorse and greed and all these other emotions that were faced with. I'm not saying that at all. But what i am saying is are you using your emotions as the sole metric for progression in your life for the way in which you will respond and react to situations within or without your control and if you're using your emotion as the sole factor for the way that you do things obviously you're not taking into into consideration everything that needs to be taken into consideration so that you can make rational logical sane conclusions and therefore responses to the circumstances. You might find yourself in. Do you get overly emotional. Do you get heated. Are you up and down like a roller coaster you high and low and crash and everything else or are you able to take a level-headed approach to what you see around you. Are you calm are you collected. Are you cool. Have you chosen not to take things personally do you. Disengage when you feel yourself becoming overly emotional. I get overly emotional sure but i make a conscious and deliberate effort to create some margin or space when i feel myself getting charged and emotional and heated so that i can look at all the factors all the all the pertinent information and that can make rational sane logical conclusions. That will help me lead people. Well so are you emotional or are you. Rational overly emotional men are a liability. Rational men are an asset number two. Are you selfish or are you self less. Are you so consumed in worried about what you will get and how you will perform and how you'll be perceived and the way others will see you and your power and your your lust for authority over other individuals like we see quite often in a myriad of places the government your boss we see this and people and these individuals are a liability. They pose very real and serious threats to our own being in the well being of the people that we care about. And is that you. And i'm not saying by the way that you shouldn't at times be somewhat selfish like it's okay to take care of yourself. It's okay to have personal desires in your own ambitions but if they continually come at the expense of other people your liability your detracting. You're taking away more than you're adding to the conversation and so are you selfish. Do you have the heart of a teacher. The heart of the servant. You want to lead. You wanna serve other individuals you want people to thrive you want people to win. I want you guys to win now. I wanna make a profitable living doing what it is. I do and my business. But i also want you to win. I want you to thrive. i want you to succeed. I want you to lead your family's well and get promotions and build your bank accounts and Get healthy and strong and build the confidence that comes with it. I want all of those things for you and often times. I find if i look at this to go back to point number one in a rational way that i will actually get what it is. I want if i can help enough of you get what it is you want but that comes first and i have faith that that if i provide value to you and i'm selfless in the way that i provide it to you that i will be provided four mentally emotionally physically. I will be provided. Four if i focus on the best way to serve you number three. Are you impatient or are you patient. Because i found that liabilities they play the short game right there so worried about what they get now. Gimme gimme gimme gimme. I gotta get mine. Wanna get good and it all comes at the expense of what could potentially happen over the long term and so we see people who see bosses. We see employees and colleagues and co workers clients and government officials. Who were so worried about getting. There's right now that they set every cell everybody else themselves and other people even their legacy up for failure because they're so focused on the term that they can't focus on what might happen and the fall out in the unintended consequences of what might happen over the long term. play the long game fellas. We look we're not here for a very long time but if you think about the next fifty to sixty years maybe less maybe more based on where you are in your life. Are you playing for the next one year or are you teaching yourself up for the success. That will happen over three five ten twenty forty years. Now i'm not the greatest of this. I tend to be impatient. Attend all the results right now. And that's okay. I think it's okay to be ambitious but if you're jeopardizing your sacrificing who you could be or who the people you're serving could be for your own wellbeing and the immediate result the benefit i mean isn't a feel good to experience the result right now doesn't it feel good to stuff your face with the donut. Instead of eating healthy my friend steve weatherford had said something to the effect of. You need to learn how to get good at sacrificing. Want now for what you want down the road or who you want to become. Can you make that sacrifice or you so focused on what's happening right now. That you t yourself up for failure down the road number four are you broke or are you wealthy. Are you an asset. I should say this way. Are you a liability or are you an asset. Because if you're broke and you're up to your eyeballs in debt and you're asking for your family and friends and people you don't know for handouts that by definition makes you a liability and let me reiterate i'm always putting a disclaimer on the last three or four things. I'm sharing with here. That doesn't mean you don't accept help up when you need it. We've got a For example financial assistance fund in iron council so these are for members who have fallen upon hard times and Can't make their their monthly membership for for the month. We know that happens and we have other guys who are extremely extremely successful financially and they volunteer to pay for these individuals memberships on a month to month basis. I hear from a lot of guys who who say you know. I can't accept that in good conscience. I can't accept that. that's not what i'm talking about. Guys that's arrogance that's pride you're cutting yourself off to what could potentially be because you're so worried about the image of yourself. It's okay to accept a help. You know a a hand up. You should let the ego but if you're constantly asking people for money and you can't make your bills and you're up to your eyeballs in debt your liability and i tell these guys who have a hard time accepting help from other people. I say look accept the help because we want you here. But when you're back on your feet then pay it. Forward become a liability excuse me an asset an asset in this cases dumbly someone who can take care of himself but somebody who can help take care of others right for example. I've got three boys and a little girl. Forget about the emotional wellbeing and the fact. That are my children right now. All of that stuff is true but children are somewhat of a liability right because we got paid for their food and their housing and put clothes on their back and they take a lot of time and attention and energy. And i'm happy to give that. I'm happy to invest that into them. Because i find fulfillment in that but boy doesn't really become a man until he learns that he has personal accountability and responsibility for himself. So not only can. He govern himself sovereignty. We've talked about that for the past three years. Now but now he can help turn outwards and he can help family or neighbors or his employees and start a business and give to charity in volunteer for charitable organizations. And now he's no longer a liability. He's now an asset because he's expanded beyond simply being able to take care of himself. So are you broke. Can you not make your bills. Can you not make your payments. I get it checked right now for a lot of people so you may have to have a a hand up take it. They'll be so prideful that you can't take that so you can push yourself in a better position but when you are in a better position pay it forward so that you can help others the way that maybe they've helped you. Are you broke or are you. Wealthy are you liability or asset. All right number five. Are you immoral versus moral. I've talked about this quite often. And i feel like i probably have coined the term the doctrine of popular culture. I'm sure you're gonna see that pop up more. Because i think it illustrates in articulate perfectly what we see is the doctrine of popular culture. That says we can be immoral. We can worry about rs who don't have to worry about the feelings or The well being of other people we should just worry about ourselves. And so if you're having struggling your marriage will just step out on her can make your payments. I just declare bankruptcy if you feel like you have less than what another individual has just go ahead and steal from them. That's what the doctrine of popular culture teaches. That's immoral we know that and every time you engage in immoral behavior a little bit of your soul dies. That's not hyperbole guys. that's not just me. You know aggrandizing the language. I use in order to sell you on something. That's that's the truth. There's decisions i've made. That are not moral decisions in my life in every time. I do that a little piece of who i could potentially become dies and the only way to salvage that is by first becoming somebody. Who's moral having a moral code. Something that you have committed to living towards and also making amends where you screwed up. I've i've stolen. I've i've cheated people out of money i've done. I've done things that. I'm not proud of an attempt to make those right as best that i can. Because that path to redemption. You have to make amends. You have to make it right to to the best of your ability. That's living a moral life by the way it's not always easy. It's not comfortable. You're probably gonna lose. I'm money attention influence. Credibiity when you have to apologize and make things right and so it goes back to point number three where i talked about playing the short game. It's gonna it's gonna hurt in the short game. It's going to hurt right now when you have to make amends and you have to live a more life and it isn't easy it isn't comfortable. But that's what men do that's what assets do they make amends and they fix it in the correct it and they started a level playing field and then they improve themselves moving forward. So are you immoral. Do you manipulate other people. Do you take advantage of other people. Do you screw them over when you get the opportunity. Do you take their emotions and their wellbeing lightly or do you care about the way that you show up regardless of the result that you produce by the way sometimes being a moral individual produces inferior results as the doctrine of popular culture would define. I'd you might make less money if you don't steals from somebody or manipulate somebody but that's definition is not what an asset lives by. Not what a man lives by. I talked about it in sovereignty. The battle for the hearts and minds of men which the book i wrote three years ago talked about having a code that you live by and we aren't going to be perfect. I'm never perfect. You aren't perfect but we strive to be and we make amends where we can number six. Are you a victim or a victor. And this one's confusing for a lot of guys. Because every time. I talk about the reality of what i experience anyways and i'm not telling you my reality is quote unquote my truth. I'm not ignorant or or arrogant enough to believe that what i share is truth with a capital t. It's my perspective. It's my opinion. But when i share the reality of the circumstances when which i see whether it's the government encroachment on first amendment rights second amendment rights things that i don't think they're going to serve me or my family community and country. Well i'm going to share. That doesn't necessarily paint me as a victim. A lot of people like to say that. Oh this is this victim language as not victim. Language to point out possible threats. Guys you know what is victim language to point out possible threats in the do nothing about it if you experience or see something that is a danger to you or the people that you care about and you do nothing about it. Yes you have positioned yourself as a victim but if you talk about what you see in the threats that you experience and your personal experience and and your set of skills and expertise and you recognize these things and then you come up with a plan of action to address it to deal with you what you actually see and experience. You're not being a victim. You're being a door because you're going to overcome those hardships in those obstacles. On a very small micro level an example. Somebody who says oh you know. The reason i can't get healthy is because my family is is genetically enable unable to and and we're just were fat or were big boned genetically okay. That's you've just resigned. Yourself to being a victim i can to do about it. I guess we'll just continuing my perpetual state of unhealthiness. Okay but if on the other hand you say you know what. My family deals with these things and These genetics run in my family. And so i've had to work extra hard overcoming that. Here's the reality. And i know that this is something i deal with. But here's my plan to overcome it and here's how to continue to be healthy in spite of it. You're now you're not a victim and doesn't society just love the victim these days. It's like oh this person or this group of people have been victimized and so we need to make reparations and we need to make everything right yes. We have an obligation to make things right where we have. We have individually cost people harm. The my ancestors haven't caused an excuse me. I have not caused harm to anybody. My ancestors people may have but there's no burden of responsibility from me and so stop expecting that other people are supposed to give you whatever it is that you want or because your dad wasn't in the picture or your mom was out of your life or she died early or you know there was a history of abuse and all of that stuff is tragic by the way. I'm not saying that it isn't. I'm not saying that you should ignore what's happened in the past. I'm simply saying that what's done is done. Some of you may interpret that as being insensitive. Maybe it could be interpreted that way. But i want you to know that what's done is done. Let's chalk it up to learning lessons and let's figure out why were better for it and then let's come up with a path forward and start walking that path forward. That's how you turn yourself into victor. I know it's infinitely easier to be a victim. Why because to go back to point number three. It's the short game. If i'm a victim of other people are to blame. Then i'm going to get what it is. I want money attention. Notoriety power authority attention. The garrity said that one. That's the short game. I'm going to deceive. i'm gonna lie to myself so that other people will give me what i want right now. It is not a strategy for long term success. Be realistic about the situations. The difficult situations faced come up with a plan to be better moving forward number seven. Are you ignorant or you knowledgeable. I talked with a lot of people on a daily basis. some of them are extremely extremely knowledgeable. When it comes to this stuff. And i feel like the ignorant one especially on the podcast or even on social media where these individuals are incredibly intelligent and thoughtful and experienced. Those are the kind of individuals that i aspire to be like. Those are the kind of people i wanna talk with. And then you hear from people who were just running their mouths just jack and jaw on things they have no idea what the hell it is. They're talking about and unfortunately social media has given us the opportunity to do that. And we've been led to believe that everybody's voice is equal now. Look we all have a right at this stage anyways in the game to be able to speak. What's on her mind. We have that right. That has been granted to us by god and protected by individuals who i fear were significantly stronger and more capable than we currently are and so we do have have the right to to be ignorant to spout off to talk about things that we don't know what we're talking about and people would say well that guy's opinion is just as relevant or important as that. No no it isn't the right to talk doesn't mean that your opinion is as relevant as that guys opinion who has the expertise and the knowledge and the information. So let's get educated. That's what this podcast is about. Let's find other men who were doing it who have experienced who have expertise. Let's learn from them. Let's figure out how to make this thing better how to make ourselves better so we can improve our own lives in the lives of other people but let's not be ignorant to what's going on. Let's gain knowledge. Let's gain that information so that when we speak we speak with authority and credibility and people listen because we know what the hell were talking about our number eight. Are you incapable or are you a capable person. Are you pathetic. When you're faced with the challenge cower in the corner do not know how to do. Things do not know how to exercise. Creativity and thoughtfulness do not have a set of skills whether it's survival skills or financial skills or the ability to speak in public or whatever it is you deem important. There's an infinite number of skills we could work developed. Is that the kind of man you are your. Your resume consists of being really good at at xbox playstation. Five now is is the cool thing right like. Is that what your resume consists of is that you're really good at some some video game. Really good at manipulating mommy and daddy to keep you To allow you to stay in their basement for for the next two decades art. Are you really proficient at making people. Believe that you do have a set of skills or that your valuable and you really aren't or you know you're just doing the bare minimum to get by a work. So you don't get fired. Or are you hyper capable. And are you developing new skills and hobbies and activities and interests and capabilities and pursuits and knowledge and expertise and applying it and learning it and being creative and growing and expanding again to reiterate. Are you a liability incapable or a you asset capable. When my family is met with difficult or even dangerous circumstances and situations. I wanted to look at me is what are we going to do about this because they know i will have the answer and so i'm running through scenarios situations potential violent encounters natural disasters. I don't feel like paranoid. But i want to be prepared. So that when that day comes and it will come by the way. It's just a matter of what it's going to be. But when that day comes they will be able to lean on me as a as an asset for getting them to a safer more fulfilled. Happy place our number nine and we got to more get number nine and ten number nine week or you strong. I'm talking about physically right now. Because we've talked a lot about mentally and emotionally and rational. We talked about all that stuff right. But i'm talking about. Are you physically strong or you physically weak. Do you train every day. Do you move your body. Do you go on walks. You have the right nutrition. Do you have the recovery. Do have the right sleep because if not you might find yourself wanting in a in a situation in which you can't control i don't wanna be that guy so i train every day jitsu strength training. I walk in the field. I'll see here in my office. Use my origin warclubs or my sore necks. center mass bells and i moving and i'm stretching and drinking water. I'm hydrating and i'm sleeping in exercising and dieting and getting strong and trainy jujitsu. Because i want to be a strong individual. I'm not at the pinnacle of my my health. Right now. I think. I'm stronger than i've ever been in my entire life but i know i have so much more to go. And by the way your physical strength isn't only gonna help you in the physical realm. It's going to help you. Mentally emotionally spiritually. It's going to help you keep a level head. All these things are intertwined talked about nine factors right. Now they're all intertwined you get better at one. You're going to get better at another naturally inevitably so we'll get strong workout every single day. And you know the you show only be training three to five days a week because that's what okay. Look get it in. And maybe if you're looking for these you know these specific result based on what you're doing. Okay i can. I can appreciate that but you ought to be moving at least scratching moving walking recovering training getting strong every day. There should not be a day that goes by. That doesn't have some sort of deliberate strength. Health training regimen built into it guys last number ten and i saved the best for last. And maybe this encapsulates all of this but are you dependent or independent. The word i've used for the past three years as sovereign are you sovereign. Do you have control of your finances in your health. And your wealth. And your well being in your. Are you confident in who you are. Where you come from spiritually maybe even like are you independent or they're things that you're relying upon. Are you relying upon other people to save and rescue you. Are you relying upon services and organizations and companies being there and as long as they're there you're good but if they're gone then you're in trouble like if that's what you're relying on then you're positioning yourself for failure so let's not do that. Let's look at every circumstance situation item. Produit that you rely on currently let's make yourself more independent. I don't want you to rely on your parents. I don't want you to rely on the gas station. I don't want you rely on the fact that social media will be here. All these things could go away and given moment and if you're not realistic about that and preparing currently for that you're setting yourself and other people up for failure. So e serov sovereign take responsibility for your life for your own wellbeing for the wellbeing of the people under your care your wife. Your children colleagues co workers neighbors strangers that you don't even know this is what's required guys become assets like i said at the beginning of this podcast. This is the mo i honestly believe. This is the most important podcast i've ever done. And i know it is an in depth and i know i could probably go deeper and i probably will over the next twelve months into each of these subjects. But i want to give you this view for for now. I hope he wrote these things down. And if you didn't go back and jot them down and then give yourself an honest assessment. Am i on the liability column or the asset column. And if you find yourself on the liability column okay. Well that's the truth right now. So fix it. Come up with a plan that you can move yourself from the liability to the asset calm. Let's recap them. Call it a day number one. Are you emotional or you. Rational number two selfish or self list number three. Are you playing a short game or the long long game in other words. Are you impatient. Patient number four are you broke or wealthy number five or you immoral or amoral individual number six. Are you the victim perpetual state of victimhood or are you. A vector number seven are ignorant or knowledgeable number eight capable. Excuse me in general or extremely capable number nine weak or strong and number ten dependent or independent also known as sovereign argus. I hope that helps us get after it. I want hundreds of thousands if not millions of men banded with us in this mission to reclaim and restore masculinity and i feel like these. Ten factors are crucial on our own personal journey and of course the journey of society and we have a part to play a large part to play and if you fall into the liability column. You aren't in the game. Maybe you're in the game but you pass if you're not actively participating get yourself in the game become an asset. Move yourself over the right home. You'll feel better. you'll be more fulfilled. You better results in your life and you help those along the way or i guess we'll be back next week until then go out there become an asset not lie take action and the man you to thank you for listening to the order of man. Podcast you ready to take charge of your life. Be more of a man you are meant to be invite you to join the order. At quarter of man dot com.
Your Weekly Tech Update EP. 88: A four-legged vehicle - Astrobot review
"There. Unless you're for some reason a fan of personal cinema headsets wonder who fits that Bill? You almost certainly haven't heard of Royal. That's okay. Founder and CEO Bill. Lou actually wanted it that way unbeknownst to most of the world Royal has quietly been working to pioneer and perfect its own flexible screens since twenty twelve and its new flexi pice smartphone represents something of a coming out party before we go any further though, we need to get a few things straight. Yes. This is a real product that you can actually buy right now. Yes. This basically unknown company beat Samsung to the market with a full dible smartphone. And yes it actually works. All that really matters, though is the seven point eight inch Mola display that folds in half to form a usable if kind of unwieldly smartphone. All told it doesn't get much more bleeding edge than this. This isn't the first time the flexi pie has broken cover. It went on a world tour of sorts in late twenty eighteen the differences of the device wasn't quite ready for production back then. And it definitely showed at though, the company is showing off production models that actually work pretty well. There's a very specific kind of joy that manifest when you unfold the phone into a tiny tablet. There's no mechanism to lock the screen when it's unfolded. So if you hold it in one hand, you'll definitely notice the slight bend along its hinge, and at least on the models that were tested at the cameras were happy -solutely godawful, they technically worked, but that's about the nicest thing that could be said about them at this point. It seems pretty clear though, that the future of smartphones is packing, ever bigger. Displays into ever smaller. Or bodies. And Lou believes royals low key work has set the company up for success. He might be onto something Google is working to build foldable device support into Android a move that could fix some of the company's biggest software incompatibility issues. And if nothing else move hasn't ruled out the idea of just supplying foldable screens to other smartphone manufacturers, even if the flexi pie gets overshadowed by flashier rivals. There are ways forward for the company that one thousand three hundred eighteen dollars it isn't cheap. But it's much less than I would have thought considering it's a world's I in any case expect to see the name Royal a lot more very very soon reaching victims of the natural disaster as quickly as possible as paramount for saving as many lives as you can. But damage to the region's roads, bridges and other infrastructure often makes that task nearly impa. Possible. But with the new elevate ultimate mobility vehicle. Otherwise known as you MVP from Hyundai's cradle division. First responders will be able to crawl land generally cruise over even the most impassable obstacles with ease namely because each of the vehicles four wheels is a fixed to an articulated extendable leg based on a modular v platform, the elevate can be deployed in a variety of emergency situations from earthquakes and hurricanes to avalanches and soon nominees. Simply by swapping the cabin out from the underlying vehicle frame each leg is afforded five degrees of freedom while each wheel is packed with its own motor, enabling the UM. Vida maintained its progress. Even if one or two wheels can't get traction if worse comes to worse, the vehicle can even freeze its wheels and simply walk over the debris in its way. It can ease. Really clear. Five foot tall walls and span. Five foot wide gaps in pavement and once the first responders or clear of the disaster zone. The elevates legs retract under the cabin and drive like a conventional EV future versions of the platform. Could theoretically be used for variety of applications beyond emergency response. This technology goes well beyond emergency situations. People living with disabilities, for instance, worldwide that don't have access to an ADA ramp. Could HALE in a Thomas Honda elevate that could simply walk up to their front door level itself. And that allowed their wheelchairs to roll right in the possibilities are limitless continuing with transportation news, Uber got a step closer to on demand aerial taxis at CAS as partner company bell helicopter unveiled a new flying car design in Las Vegas. Uber said the nexus represents a major step in its elevate initiative to create an on demand. Uber air network and shows it is on track for delivering the world's first aerial rideshare network within the coming years with plans to test flying car designs by twenty twenty and a launch of commercial service in twenty twenty three. Uber air has partnered with several aircraft manufacturers on the development of e Vitale aircraft as well as bell helicopter. These include Boeing's Aurora flight sciences Mooney and Karimera craft bell has been the first to publicly exhibit a full full-scale model. However after several other partners put forward concept images at Uber's annual elevates summit last year. Hooper air is part of the Uber elevate program, which is aiming to reduce individual car ownership and change the way people travel in urban air. Areas with for instance, Uber pool ridesharing and Uber jump electric bikes, and there's others out there to the company believes EV. Tolls will become an affordable form of daily transportation for the masses even less expensive than owning your very own car with cost comparable to its car ride sharing rates. Lubar elevates in-house team include some Rockstars, former NASA employees, Mark Moore who created the first veto at NASA and Tom Prevot who created necessary first-ever airspace system with them as Selena Makola. Zach formerly senior manager of battery development at tesla and Eric Allison who developed self-piloting air taxi Cora. Okay. I do love technology. But it does scare me a little bit. When technology crosses that barrier. Into health and beauty products. Allays face Nahvi smart. One isn't a magic solution for perfect skin. But apparently, it's pretty fun. The smart one is a hand held device that uses electromagnetic pulses to transform a singular only face cream into a multi use product able to treat puffiness wrinkles, sagging, discoloration, uneven, skin and other conditions in one fell swoop. The process starts on the olay skin advisor mobile app, you simply enter your name and your birth year and snap a selfie of yourself the app. S if you have any areas, you're particularly concerned about like dark circles, sacking skin wrinkles, etc. And then it tells you how old your skin looks. Hopefully, if you're lucky it tells you you're a little bit younger than your actual age. The app itself uses machine learning to read each face and pop out an accurate reading of age in problem areas. An ole Representative. Said they assured the system doesn't low ball or high ball estimated ages to give users a shot of endorphins or send them on a shame induced spending spree. It's all in the algorithm. The skin advisor app, then opens up in selfie mode. But this time with a are stickers spots of color appear on your face indicating specific issues. Here's where the cream and the one to come into play you slather your face in the associated olay cream pair the wand with your phone and get to work pressing the middle slope of the one to your face makes it vibrate slightly. As you swipe it over different colors owns the electromagnetic pulses change making the cream react with your skin in different ways. Onscreen the color blocks fade as the wand hits them little stars shooting out to indicate a job. Well, done allays goal with these smart Wallin is to replace a half. Dozen creams bulbs, scrubs and sprays that some people use at the end of the day. I'm not sure if it actually accomplish this goal, but using the wand is quite satisfying from what people say ended subtle vibrations or soothing in the worst case scenario, the face Naveh's, smart Wolland is fairly combing indulgent, if not downright fun to us. No word on when this will be released, but I would suggest if it's something that interests you that you have a look at it. It definitely looks like one of those rare cases where technology is put to good use in the health and beauty industry. If you grew up playing Mario crash, Kirby, sonic, or any other platformer out there that you will absolutely love Astro bought first showcased as a part of the playroom VR demo from Sony. It was so popular that they just had to make a whole game you start out fly around the galaxy and your spaceship with all your Astro bought. Friends would a big mean alien finds you and destroy your ship and sends all your buddies flying through space. It's up to you to go from planet to planet in find your friends and get the game back together to take on the mean alien instead of being a side scrolling you advance forward you can control your Astro bought with your dual shock four controller which also shows up in game. And you are shown as another robot that floats overhead and helps out along the way as you collect your friends from each level. You collect upgrades to your controller? Including a tight rope ninja stars in a water gun all the steeples of a traditional platformer are here with some added abilities. My favorite thing is your perspective. And the ability to look in three hundred sixty degrees at each level. There are many hidden box in the game. And the only way to find them is by turning around and looking behind you or above you. If you want to VR game that the whole family can enjoy including the young ones, I would highly recommend Astro rescue mission for the PlayStation VR with eight hours of game play and twenty-seven levels. This is definitely one of the must have games for the PlayStation VR. And why I am giving it five out of five here on your weekly tech update. America's infrastructure is crumbling around us, the American society of civil engineers latest infrastructure report card from 2017 rated the nation's roads, bridges, airports and water systems. At a poultry d plus however, recent advances in a novel form of concrete could help us rebuild our roadways to be stronger and more resilient than ever before. It's called the e c c for short or simply bendable concrete originally developed in the early nineteen nineties by Dr Victor Li a civil end environmental engineering, professor at the university of Michigan ECC is to normal concrete. What the six million dollar man was Steve Austin better stronger and more expensive in every way by using fine sand from the Mississippi River rather than micro silica PVA fiber that lacks the usual oil-based coating used in this application and locally available. Fly ash rather than conventional concrete. Our team has produced an e c c that only cost two point five times what regular concrete would. Now, dropping the price of SEC from four times the price of regular concrete to two point five times may not sound economically feasible, but they only need to use it half as much to perform the same function the flexibility is the key here. Best of all e c c can be used as a patch over existing concrete in proving its resilience without requiring the entire structure to be torn down and rebuilt. Unfortunately, LSU's SEC makes isn't quite ready for use just yet. It must first be put through its paces at the Louisiana transportation research center pavement research facility there. Researchers are constructing a two hundred and ten foot long test roadway, which will undergo accelerated where testing over the next few months. The tests are expected to last about a year and the data they generate will hope the researchers fine. Tune the mix it's hoped. The the team developed. We'll be ready for widespread development within the next decade and happening in this week's what the crime that. I definitely could have been guilty of committing at one time in my life. In fact, I probably was just probably wasn't caught a driver in Manitoba Canada tried to excuse his speeding by telling police officers that he'd been listening to motley Crue kick start my heart at the time of the offense. The glam metal bands November nine hundred eighty nine single which featured on their fifth studio album, Dr feelgood apparently came on the radio in the driver's car. Just before he was pulled over by Royal Canadian Mounted police, which the driver then tried to use as justification for his speeding a post on the RCMP's Facebook page on Monday confirmed the incident which saw the driver who was driving at one hundred forty five kilometers an hour. That's about ninety miles an hour being fined. Six hundred thirty nine dollars for the offense. Now, according to the post, the RCMP officer who pulled over the unnamed driver was also listening to kick start my heart at the same time as they were both tuned into the same radio station the incident brings back memories of an Andrew w k fan who was also fined for speeding in January of two thousand eighteen and later claimed that they'd been inspired to go over the speed. Limit by listening to one of w k songs w k offered to pay the fine telling the speedster. I was responsible for these sonic party power that caused you to speed thanks for watching your weekly tech update. If you have a story, you think we should feature on the program. Shoot me an Email DJ Ray McNeil at g mail dot com. Find us on Facebook at your weekly tech update. And check out the podcast audio and video versions available on I tunes Spotify Google. Will audio burst? And elsewhere on the interwebs till next time, I'm remake Neil tonight world. Your weekly tech update. Brought to you by holiday care, Phillip island, Victoria, Australia. It's your turn to relax. Hello everyone. Welcome to your weekly tech update. The show that explores the newest coolest and craziest side of tech of illegal on the interwebs. I'm your host remake Neil, otherwise known as the guy that's been pushing technology onto you since two thousand and two seriously before the iphone before Google had Android was here telling you about the newest and crewless technology, and why you should get your hands on it. However back in two thousand two was just the weekend overnight guy at a radio station in Wenatchee, Washington. Now, I host your weekly tech update 'em even more excited into one thousand nine hundred nine for what's to come coming up on today's program. We're talking forward. They have an all electric f one fifty in the works. You can check out my review of Astro bought rescue mission for the PlayStation VR and happening in this week's what the driver blames a speeding ticket on listening to motley. Cruise kick. Start my heart. I can sympathize that and a whole lot more coming up on your weekly tech update next. Hi, everyone. We've known for some time. Now that there's a Ford f one fifty hybrid in the works something we should see in about a year or so, but it seems that the company has bigger electric plans for the future as the Detroit Free Press reports Ford's president of global markets. Jim Farley said a battery electric F-series is coming. In addition to the hybrid that we've all been expecting Ford has confirmed that the truck is in development. Adding, quote, we are constantly looking at new ways to better serve. Our truck customers from materials to features to propulsion systems for making large investments electric vehicle development. So although this is the first we've heard about an electric F-series. It's certainly not surprising from what we know from the company, the company is also working on a full electric crossover and just inked to deal. With VW for MVP development. There are still many unknowns. But something we know all too. Well, is that competition could be fierce tesla has announced their own pickup. Upstart Rivi and has also previewed an electric truck with a range of up to four hundred miles and a towing capacity of up to eleven thousand pounds and to price range between seventy to ninety grand that being said, we're not particularly concerned about Ford's take on electric pickup truck, nor whether it will sell the F one fifty is far and away the company's best selling vehicle, so even a small percentage of total sales would still equal a lot of sales for the company. Of course, nothing is truly certain especially when details are scarce will certainly be watching development of this electric truck end its competitors closely. And of course, let, you know more as soon as we learn more here on your weekly tech update. Oh, it's getting scary. Isn't it? Researchers have taught a robot dog to overcome one of the toughest challenges for four leg droid how to get back up after a fall in a paper published in these science robotics journal, it's Swiss creators, describe how they trained a neural network in a computer simulation to make the ultimate guard bought then they simply went and kicked a canine around in real life. Because that's what researchers do to see if their technique worked and did the robots digital training regiment, made it twenty five times faster more resilient and able to adapt to any given environment. According to the team the bought dubbed any mole was originally developed by researchers at the robotic systems lab out of the Swiss federal institute of technology in Zurich anymore. Looks like Boston dynamics spot, many droid which was seen prying door open with terrified. Buying determination. Just last year and stands at over two feet tall has twelve joints and is electrically powered. It's creators claim they stuck to computer simulations because they were less costly than physical testing light, shoving aside. No one wants to throw an expensive bit of machinery about in real life. They were also able to speed up the digital training systems close to a thousand times faster than it would have taken in the real world and other benefit of simulating the task and the team added they were able to achieve all of this on a typical P C cutting down on the computing power usually required for a similar system. As for the pooch it begin following instructions. More precisely in the real world post training. It also beat its own speed record hitting one point five meters per second and for its most impressive trick it learned to roll over. And. Itself back up after being pushed over which the team claimed could help it fight back when abused legged robots may one day. Rescue people in forests and mountains climb stairs to carry payloads and construction sites inspector unstructured underground tunnels and explore other planets Jost don't go picking a fight with one. If you see at trolling about in the future. I absolutely love technology. If you haven't guessed yet. And I love seeing it in places where you don't normally get tech world pools corporations W labs, just introduced these smart countertop oven at CAS this countertop device uses food recognition technology. It's similar to what we saw in the June intelligent oven last year. And it automatically sets the time and temperature for each food techs the oven uses a set of algorithms to automatically cook each food frozen or fresh. Rush at its optimal time and temperature. The oven uses eleven cooking modes bake broil convection bait convection, roast toast. Reheat proof dehydrate air, fry slow cook. And keep warm to get your dish. Just right. The ovens convection heating system eliminates the need for pre heating and keeps the temperature inside the cooking chamber uniform that chamber is large enough to cook a whole chicken or whole twelve inch pizza on the outside a touch screen interface provides manual controls and wooden cutting board sits atop the oven for extra practicality. In addition to food recognition, the smart countertop oven features mobile. Notifications. A food thermometer scan to cook technology for select frozen meals and voice activation with Google assistant and Amazon Alexa, because if you don't have voice activation. These days. Oh, really, what type of company are you the smart countertop oven will be available in spring of twenty nineteen for about seven ninety nine. And I'm sure you will find deals on it shortly there.
15 in 60 Part 1 (Western Conference 11.12.18)
"Yup. Monday edition of the Pablo different schedule this week because we had a immediate reaction pod to the Jimmy Butler trade that we dropped on Saturday. When almost an hour talking just about that train of thought we had a lot of things to discuss the including more Philly goes from here that I thought was a really interesting discussion. So please check that out if you haven't listened yet, but we're going to start here because we're getting into the middle of the week who do half of the Western Conference here. And let's start with the one of the most interesting drama filled teams in basketball, the Houston Rockets the latest reporting came out over the weekend. And now to McMahon has tweeted that rockets players and coaches believed that Karl Anthony has played his final game for the franchise apparently with the emergence of two way player. Gary Clark who has been solid so far. But it was not exactly who I would guess Mel envisioned himself losing time to it appeared that there was not gonna be as much of. A role for Carmelo a. But it does seem like to me guys. If you're is reading the tea leaves that this is more of a rockets decision than a mellow decision that they're just sort of like, oh, we want to do the right thing for you. Because you're not gonna play. But yeah, you know, we kinda would rather just have the roster spot on who's not going to have a negative nine net rating. And I think it's interesting to hear where Chris Paul and James harden thought on this because I think I think Houston's being really smart and that they're attacking this early. Whereas with okay see last year, the all this just kept expecting though to get better eventually. And then we said that he'd be good in the playoffs and he wasn't going to the playoffs. So Houston's try this out for I don't know ten or so games. And I think they realize that it's not working at all. So they decided to go another direction. So I'm interested to hear how the players respond to that decision. Well, and so you have watched them the last week or so, obviously, he was bedridden no doubt with an illness. These last few games and now will not be making the trip with the team to Denver. But before that, what did you see from him? What was such big problem with him, maybe a little greater detail than we've been able to talk about so far? Well, I think most of the people and they talk about militant about his troubles switching on players. But I think he's just as bad off on fences. He is on ball a lot. He's terrible as rim-protector swats guys like with Ed vicious swipe that he uses instead of walling up. Using any county. And then sometimes they'll just choose not to rotate on on a play and the defensive rating with him on the floors one fourteen and with him off the floor actually is one oh five which is like a top five team in the league. So I think he's at the heart of a lot of Houston's issues defensively. So I think you could see a big improvement with him off the floor. But I mean, and then just authencity he never got to the foul line. He wasn't hitting his three very well. Thirty two percent from three and he had a Whiteside. Ask five assists in ten games. So he wasn't passing it all either. So he was he wasn't really helping out an offense. And he was crushing the defense. So it seems like I think they're going to be much better without him. So I don't know what you guys think of that. Why? I mean, I watched a fair portion of their game on Sunday against the Pacers. And I don't know whether it was James harden, looking better physically Chris Paul is still doing with you told Tim MC band at its tendonitis. So that's worth watching. L rockets this week to to be clear. Yes, is L his cO issue. So to me, this was the most like the rockets on both ends of the floor that they've looked all year. The ball was popping a little bit more hardened was more aggressive at one point. You took some aggressive. He checked pull up shots, and they were getting great looks early for clink cappella, and they were bouncing around a little bit more defensively. So it looked a lot more like it, and Gary cork being a part of this rotation is another reminder that you don't necessarily need, and I don't know Gary cards game on to know, if he's like way better than hit being an undrafted guy who who made their Jima situa- guy. But it's not always about how good a player is how well they can fit around what you already have. And I think that was what mellows problem with this team was is that he couldn't fit in the box that they need for everybody. That's not James harden or Chris Paul on either under the floor. Yeah. And if I can okay. Say about his stats. It wasn't really anything. We're like oh teams would just shooting incredibly well when he was on the floor and team shot four percent better from three on the floor. But that's dot a crazy number of a lot of it was just that. They couldn't get a defensive rebound when he was out there and part of that tonight his fault if he's playing with the second unit, they haven't really had an NBA quality beco- big, man. And then the following went way up to those with the big reasons why they were so much worse with him on the floor pro statistical standpoint. Yeah, I mean there last in the league in opponent free throw rate right now, so mellow definitely has a lot to do with that. And as far as Gary Clark. I mean in college he was one of the best defenders in college basketball, probably the best and his issues or more that he's really old and he's a little bit undersized and he didn't have much offensive game. So it seems like the defense is translating pretty well. And he's shooting more in the rocket systems, not shooting great. But at least he's willing to take them. So it's just to see I think they're probably gonna end up. Converting him at some point from his. Yeah. And that might be an interesting negotiation we've seen that. Become a still mate, you have the ability to convert a guy into any NBA contract that you an AA they could give them three years because you know, it's not like they used their mini mid level exception at all. But yeah, I imagine he's like he closed this game for them against San Antonio. And his three ball. You know, you mentioned his offense again games. Three ball was pretty good to me. He had an aggressive drive as well. So I I think we'll see whether the ball continues to go in for. But he's shooting it like, he really means it and more. So even than James NS who's looked pretty rough from downtown in the last couple of years, he tried to take one of those super deep threes than to not look, particularly comfortable doing that. But really, I think the defense seems to have gotten better, you know, they really haven't had one of these absolutely flammable performances since they started that Roach Abassi since harden came back, but the offense until this last game against the Pacers has started to run into some issues. Yeah. And I'm actually not worried much at all about their offense overall. I mean, it sounds simple. But they're just not making a lot of shots there. Twenty fifth in the league in three point percentage. And I looked it up. They have the highest percentage of their shots in the NBA would be labeled as open so they're getting a ton of open looks Erik Gordon shooting. Twenty three percent from three Michael Carter Williams won't be part of the rotation anymore, Gerald greens twenty six percent. Gary Clark's thirty percent, Chris Paul's Dama thirty four percent, which is low for him. So I think you're seeing some defenses specifically like sag more in on Chris Paul and James harden on their drives especially the Spurs really clogging gaps and they're in the outside guys beat them more. So I in Chris Paul and James harden having been nearly as a fishing attacking the rim as usual hardens down to forty nine percent and polls at forty eight percent at the rim. Do you think? They look all right physically. Do you think that's something that's going to get back to the levels that they'd been in the past? Well, it's the issues are two fold obviously number one that there's a lot less space there. And that's always going to be the case against the Spurs with done one of the better jobs protecting the rim, although it's not like to spur. Errs had some awesome rim protectors out there. Most of the time with with two of their centers unavailable in that game against Houston. But no harden is not look as good going to the room. I mean, there are a lot of just lefty lay ups that he's just kinda rushing doesn't seem to be getting the same explosion. He doesn't seem to be getting the foul calls at the rim. And these shots are are just like ones that you'd think a Justice James harden. He's going to make this always makes us and he just hasn't been in. You know, I'm not sure if that's going to get better. He does visibly look heavier to me. But it's definitely a Cisco aberration. He can't continue to be this bad because he's never been below sixty percent from the area around the basket so far in his career and he's going to be under fifty percent. But it is possible, especially given the visible changes in his body that he's moved into a new phase. And then Paul you'll he's got this elbow tendinitis that could be hurting shot. He did hit a few threes in that Senate Tonio game. But he definitely does not look comfortable around the room. You didn't really even right at the rim as much. Last year either. So I'm not sure I mean there's and then there's the hitting shots. I agree with you mean, they're getting some open looks. But I mean, who is the awesome shooter on the two of Joe Greene, your he'll shoot better, Gordon shoot. Better. Those guys you mentioned there in the twenties. But James NS, I mean, he's actually hitting thirty nine percent. But he's not shooting that many Tucker is again, not a huge volume guy. I think they actually miss Ryan Anderson a lot both due to in the regular season at least because how DP could space. He Gordon really only guys who can shoot those super deep three. So I do think they'll get better. But I also think that there are some issues because this team, you know, to be where they wanna be. They've gotta be a to offense top three offense the league. And I would say it's more likely than not to me that how they gonna play the rest of the year. I don't think they're going to be top two unit in the league. The rest of the year space them what we've seen so far here. We'll end it would have been hard for them to keep up last year's pace. I mean, James James Harden's isos stats from last year. We're destroying careless. He was that like one point two points per possession. I so so that wasn't gonna keep up and. I think this team is actually like pretty susceptible to injury. Just as far as I think twelve games now. Gordon's miss three games Paul's miss to hardens miss three. And you know, that isn't all that many. But like when they only have two out of three of those guys the creation burden falls pretty heavily on the other two. And that's an issue. They don't have much even like the other players on their team like PJ Tucker has a really low usage. He's not going to do much attacking to close out James Ennis same thing. Gary Clark's, Gerald green? So they they really reliant on those three for creation. So that's going to be something to monitor. I agree with you that they're not going to be as officials last year. But I I don't I guess I still think that James harden looks pretty good physically. I mean, maybe he's a little bit worse than last year. But I saw some pretty quick movement. Today. He he really beat Victor Li depot really ban across over today. So I don't know I tend to think he's going to start making more of those shots around the rim. So I guess I probably more optimistic about their chances than you are what do you think about Capella? I think he hasn't looked as good at that. Right foot issue in the preseason hasn't looked at the same touch around the room. And then I think defensively he's been getting. Feet on switches much more than we saw a year ago. Yeah, he's definitely getting beat on more switches offensively. I think his roles have become a little bit harder. Just because teams don't respect the shooter's on the outside as much like Gary Clark, you said like you looks confidence shooting it, but teams don't respect them at all over there. So a lot of the times opposite wing is crashing in. You know, making him do more with those roles than just catching dunk us. Assistant on seventy three percent of his baskets this year last year was like eighty two percent. So he's getting spoon. Fed more his assist percentages doubled. So when he catches on those short roles teams are pack in the paint making a pass it out. And as officiency is a little bit down. He's down to sixty two percent shooting percentage. He was at sixty five percent last year. But I mean, nothing too bad physically banged knees with somebody today. So maybe it's a little bumps and bruises. But I think he's going to be fine in in the long run. I think it's part of the shooting from the outside. That's hurt them overall. But not quite as efficient as last year. Well, so we talked about this on our time to panic episode last week, but you don't way, and what would you say they're gonna put like they. Will play at the pace of a blank win team the rest of the year. What would you put that number well without mellow? I think I'd probably put it around low fifties. So maybe fifty three fifty four around there. I don't know if that's higher not which by the way, we need a second episode of the time to panic podcast guys can get enough to get enough teams on that we more of that. Well, we'll have to get you another pay for bag. Maybe he'll agree to come on the show, Ken. Yeah. The the problem is I don't think we can do any less time for team with the three of us just enjoying talking too much. I want to talk about this game against San Antonio. We transition into San Antonio. But first this from our friends at seek a making my annual trip to Milwaukee. 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I they are now five and seven but four and three in their last seven still a negative five point nine net rating, which is twenty third. The NBA. They are the twenty eighth ranked offense, which is unbelievable. Even after this big before against the Pacers and twentieth in defense but still projected for fifty wins by five thirty eight which incorporates their preseason projections as well. But why don't we turn now to the Spurs Danny where they at San Antonio there. Now, seven and four four and two since the last time, we covered them here. Plus one net rating puts them fifteenth. So right around the middle of the league twelfth offense eighteenth and defense, which is a big jump from where they were they were thirtieth. The last time we did this. And they did not get a similarly big jump in terms of their five thirty projections. Thirty nine wins ties them for tenth with seems like they're always going to be tied with the clippers. I almost every time. I check it. That's how it is. Yeah. And you'd some odds rations on how their offense has looked so far that are pretty interesting. Yeah. It it's fascinating. So they had their offense is twelve. So then the top half of the league despite having in I'll say not modern shot distribution and their reasons for that. And we'll get into it. So forty. Seven percent of San Antonio shots for mid range. That's number one in the league and frequency by almost ten percent. Which is just massive like I mean, it's kinda hard to explain how big that is. And then only twenty five percent of their shots from three. That's latte. Lowest in the league by about a half a percent. And then their lowest in the league at attempts at the rim before I don't know. How Boston did tonight Ribes in it for that? So you're sitting there going, okay, they're taking like they're taking a traditionally inefficient shot mix and they have a top half offense. How does that happen? A couple of things. Most importantly to me they never turn the ball over their turnover rate. Twelve percent is spectacular. And that just means they're getting a shot on a higher proportion of possessions day are even though those are generally considered less efficient shots. They're making forty one percent of the mid Rangers. They're making sorry. Forty percent. Forty one percent of their threes. Forty percent of the mid Rangers. And both those are good threes are ridiculous forty-one percent there in the middle of the road getting into line. So they're twentieth ineffective field goal percentage. But they never turn the ball over, and they're pretty solid and everything else. So that. Makes the difference to push them into one of the top half. Oftens? Then Aldridge is one of the lowest turnover players of all time. It was last year that I had the stat that he had like, you know, one turnover on like over one hundred posts ups or something just completely insane. Or might have been like, you know, you had a thousand a thousand post touches in like six turnovers. It was just like unbelievably low, and then derozen one of his overlooked strengths has been avoiding turnovers as well. And those guys are kind of in the same guys to Rosen's numbers, very similar a few more assists. But it was interesting in this game. He really got taken out of it. I thought an Liam you you saw the game. Do it was mostly actually their strategy was to get the switch and get hard on aren't actually just like stopped him every time and hardens always been a guy that has really strong base. He's pretty good on switches. He had a good defensive game against the Marta rose into doing the same thing. So all your hasn't looked quite as effective in the post. I don't know. Maybe. Talking about. And actually if I said Aldridge, I misspoke. But yeah, I was talking about to Rosen being stopped by by harden in in the enact Saturday. Yeah. And exactly that's is saying I mean, the Rosen normally gets pretty difficult looks for mid range, but these were especially difficult. I think you pointed out like there is not a guy that's going to be you speed go, you know, go into the room. So he's more of a back Becky down and take advantage of a weaker wing defenders. So this is definitely a bad match up forum. So I wouldn't be too worried about Dhamar Droz and based off this performance. And if I could just one more thing from your turnover conversation, I think the lack of turnovers Israeli propped up their defense to to made them they're close to league average now. So that's definitely a big advantage of their low turnover or approaches. Well, yeah, they're not exactly flying down the floor to get back in transition defense. Danny green is an on this team anymore quiz on the team anymore. So yeah, they do have to rely on better floor balance in those situations. And but I do think that the Spurs deserved some credit in this game. By going away from derozen rather than just letting him continue to hammer against guys who are pretty strong in. Houston is not a good matchup for derozen because pretty much all the guys that they're gonna throw out there are strong. And that's what he relies on. And I thought that Derek Whyte while we didn't have an unbelievable statistical game he was plus twenty. And he did I actually it was a pretty good statistical game fourteen points on a twelve shooting possessions, any at eight assists. And I thought he really is given them for the first time since Tony Parker was helped even a couple of years ago. This is only a few games, but he's actually like able to get into the lane on the pick and roll and give them a little bit of offensive pace too. Because derozen Aldridge. Those guys are very deliberate like they work slowly, they can get these shots. They kind of they're slow enough that they allowed the defense to load up whereas white can get into some transition. He can actually get a break the paint a force guys come over and help a little bit and just like get more offensive movement for them. And I thought that was. Really can't dot. He looked good. He threw some really nice business beautiful alleyoop to Aldridge out out of a time out of. So I really liked to what I saw from him in this one. And I think they were missing him. But he came back earlier than expected from that planner fashion issue, and he had a really good year last year in the league, they won the championship. I believe and that's kind of player that he's been going back to college is, you know, pretty create off the dribble is not an explosive athlete, but he's got a decent enough for step in. He makes really good decisions. And they need that with the guards that they have Patty mills and Britain. Forbes, they're not creators at all. And the Rosen gonna do most of the creating but even hacking the close out making the play off the dribble and dish of the big. That's something they've been lacking. So I think it's going to help a lot especially since he looks pretty good physically. Not as good was a derozen defense in this. Now hardened really struggle. He was seven hundred twenty seven, but you know, the Spurs weren't they don't like to switch against hardened. But there were times when they had mills and belly out there that derozen just had to be the primary matchup hardening. Basically harden is a good enough operator pick and roll that if. If you have to Rosen on him, he's just going to make it be a switch because he's just going to get over the screen derozen is not going to be able to stay with them and rear view contest enough, and he's going to harness than going to engage the big, and then he'll back it out and be able to go one on one against the big. And that's not really what the Spurs wanted to. But with derozen y'all much like Kyrie especially earlier in his career, basically any pick and roll that you sat with him is going to end up being. So that that doesn't look too good for them. Couple other notes on this. I in this one with turtle and gonzo both out they had to go to choosing to as the backup center. And he didn't really look ready and for sewage not surprises the second round center. Didn't look comfortable trying to finish around the rim unless he just had a wide open dunk now committed a bunch of the usual fouls against hardened which the Spurs are Jill so much to not commit per tons. Actually, didn't look too good in that regard. Either you had a couple of regions on harden a quick interjection while we're talking about second round centers. That aren't quite ready. I think an underrated element for Houston. Growing mellows, Ben a bigger negative. But I say Hartenstein just isn't ready yet. And I don't know when the navy's coming back. But I think they could get they could be helped by more capable backup center. Play eventually. Yeah. Hartenstein? He tries hard on the offense of glass, but he just can't finish to save his life. Again, if he's unless he's got a wide open dunk, and I think he's actually gotten better executing their system like he's trying to get out on the floor and deny a when in the midst of their switches try to push guys further out on the floor. But if he does get caught one on one against anybody with ball handling skills. He's going to get blown by. Yeah. He's not much of a vertical rim spacer either. I think in the game against the Pacers through allowed doom and he just couldn't get up high enough to finish it. So I eat late. Like, you guys said, I don't think he's a guy that's going to be long term for them. And I think they'll definitely be searching for centers on the buyout market. If Nate doesn't get healthy last thing on the Spurs Rudy gay still missing time with that. Right heel injury. And that's a big concerning MS twenty five games with that year ago. And the initial discussion was always just. Missing time for maintenance and harassed and pop downplayed it. Well, it's been a week now and looks like especially with this being an injuries already struggled with really going to be something to monitor because they desperately need Rudy gay and his scoring. I think as look great when he's actually been available. But and having white back does help a little bit. But I do think that's going to be something to watch for the Spurs. Let's go next to the Denver Nuggets who had a hard-fought loss. They've had three of those in a row now to the bucks. Although I thought the bucks largely outplayed them today day. Would you agree with that? I would. Yeah. I mean, there were certainly moments in the game and the nuggets look good overall. And being outplayed by vexes is not you know, a condemnation. But yeah, I would agree with that. Let's do the fundamentals before we forget because we often do I often do Denver. I was being polite nature. Denver nine nine four five and three since last time, we did this three heartfelt losses that you brought up fishing rate. Plus seven point three eight offense still forcing defense and fivethirtyeight projects them to have fifty one wins would put them fourth in the Western Conference. This has been a very eventful week for our two weeks for the nuggets. I made originally we were thinking we're gonna do big breakdown of Jamal Murray's forty eight point game in that win over Boston. But we both watched the game against the bucks today. So we're not gonna focus on a nice staff from Dan Feldman that is the eighth youngest player ever to score forty eight a game one of the ones younger is Charlie Villanueva which is enjoyable to me. And then the other thing which is kind of a lead into this game was the adjustment that Mike Malone made in terms of the starting lineup, so Tori, Craig had been starting out of marris had a nice thread on Denver or on Twitter about the challenges offensively play Millsap and Craig together and Tori, Craig went from starting and not necessarily playing ten minutes to ADP CD in this game. And they started wacho instead. Yeah. The the end for Craig was in that Boston game one. He played the first three minutes of the game. They went down ten to two. Two and then he never played again. And I think they did start against Memphis, but ran into some big time spacing issues as Morris noted as well. And they also lost a at the last second on a care sliver shot to Brooklyn on Friday night. That was really, you know, that's probably the real bad loss in this. You know, that's and defense still up until today hasn't been bad. But you know, that Brooklyn games with that was like the old nuggets lost the to Memphis. That's that loss Milwaukee's playing credibly. Well, that's not that bad of a loss. Although they had some late game foibles that will talk about. So I mean, you know, they were not in one ever all they will make the playoffs. And you know, I think they're probably will. But the idea that they were to just cruise the number two seed in the west, you know, that every every issue they ever had was fixed. This is Mike balloons, dream, defense, etc. Cetera. I wasn't quite bind that I think. They're improved Golota guys on the team have gotten better. I think to their offense can get a lot better. The help. Add so many guys have shot on the scenery. And there's like four pretty good shooters all shooting under thirty percent from three for them right now. But I think they're going to settle in you know, kind of more than the same kind of high forties. Winds type team that they've often been, you know, especially with will Barton out there shoul define the guy that they are starting actually want show now. And I thought he's been playing really sexy. The one guy in the team is hitting a shot. Yeah. Overall for the season want show shooting forty two percent on his three pointers which on about three attempts to game. And as his minutes go up, you know, he's nineteen for the season. But he played thirty in the game on Sunday. So we'll see how that moves on. He was two or three and just having somebody who teams have to defend capably out there and it led. And this is something that happens a lot with teams when you move a guy from bent from the bench to the starting lineup. It jumbles up the rotation throughout just because the dynamics are different. So they ended up with some of these bizarre lineups like when they were playing one show in wiles together, which you know, this kind of. Evil because his team doesn't have enough forward or enough Schneiderman those two guys at least don't conspires the floor. Yeah. They had they had a lot of real briefly at the end of the first that did pretty well with Millsaps at center and Juancho and while as well with the then they went to pull me yucky was good in this game. We talk more about that later. You can we take a brief moment to talk about the bucks? Just because we happen to watch a game when Brooke Lopez's away completely insane. And I feel like we're never gonna have realized it said three games already was six or more made threes this here. Yeah. And a lot of these at least three that I can recall were twenty feet, plus they were way way past the line. And I think a lot of I think more players should be shooting from there. If you don't have to sacrifice your mechanics like I think LeBron should be shooting from that far out because when I look at his shot, he's just like the same thing. It's going to go into pretty similar rate. And so we'll see that moving forward also butts. It was great scam. But we talked about that a lot when we talked about bucks warriors. So we don't need to go there. We can go back to the Doug. It's I just want to mention those things. So. So I thought that this game was very Alestra of both of the strides that Yokich has made defensively and also the limitations that he will never be able to improve on. I mean a lot of these Lopez threes because he he was guarding Lopez it and in the starting lineup. I don't know where else you put him. Right. I mean, he's he's gonna guard Jaanus swell some centers can guard, you honest and actually thought Plumlee did a pretty good job on him. But yolk at gino's really too slow to guard Yana sue one on one. And so then he's going to have to guard a three point shooter. And with Lopez spotting up me hit a couple of thirty footers in this game. But you know, even in the corner Yokich was doing a good job of trying to help trying to spin out to the corner. And there's been plenty of centers who struggled against Lopez. But he just couldn't quite get there. He he made some really nice places like he had a play where Janas was fronted in the post late in the clock. They lobbed it to him. And he was able to get over there. While the ball was in the air and force twenty four second violation. So that was he's definitely trying to get out there. They have him further out on the floor. Again this. Era, and that wasn't really pick and roll necessarily that was killing the nuggets in this game as they gave up just an incredible offensive performance the buck throughout most of the game that bucks at one thirty offensive rating. And then, you know, so the bucks weren't really attacking pick and roll. But just having a stretch center that Lopez had to guard mean, and so that's all right. Any team? That's gonna play a strut center is going to cause problems. Now, the difference here a little bit was that at least like Lopez can guard Yokich pretty well in the post. He couldn't guard him in pick and pop which you know, I thought they could have gone to that more. But you know, so that's just it's going to be hard again. I mean, he's taken the next step. I think this team has a whole has taken the next up. I believe that they are very close now to maximizing what they can be as a defensive team. And you know, the point never was in the sky SOX defense. He's so bad. He's hopeless is terrible insects. You know, he's not and his canter out there. It was never the point. The point is just that. If you're talking about this team getting into the second round of the playoffs getting to a conference. Finals the competition is just so difficult in terms of picket role defense and floor. Spacing that I think against the best teams. It's going to be very difficult for them, especially when those teams he'll say the warriors, for example, Goto their best lineups yoga Chaz at least one, but probably two of the elements that less athletic centers can use to survive that he has mean such an insanely smart basketball player he has good instincts. But he's also smart. So I think you can see a lot more than most than most guys can eat you see it more on the offense it's true defensively to and he's done a better job this season of playing defense with intention, and you talked about trying to get out to shooters kind of seeing it at the challenge for him, especially as the league is evolving is that there are still elements of this that are physical constraints. You know, how quickly can you get from point to point B, even if you can -ticipant it you still have to actually physically get there. And as you said the challenges in the later rounds of the playoffs as the personnel get superior, and as the generally the personnel gets better at attacking what Denver doesn't do. Well, Macri real problems for them. And Millsap can cover up some of that stuff. You can't cover up all of it. And it would be a in some ways a good problem for Denver to have that if they're if they can make it that far I think they had a pretty good season. But they're, you know, if we wanna think about this is like are they going to be a championship pretender, I would say, no. But I think they can have a wonderful run without that. And you talked about how they're shooters aren't necessarily hitting shots. And I think that was another another kind of part of this game is their different elements of joe-marie. Like, there are a lot of things I still love drummer. I as one of my favorite young guards in the league. But you know in this game he only took one three, but it was doing a great job of denying him. But also his limitations as a passer. I mean you and I did the first game where we really pinpointed the bucks defensive character trait. Wasn't that Celtics game? When what Boston start doing in the third quarter was penetrating? And then looking to the opposite side, not necessarily the corner, but often the corner, but above the break sometimes too. And it it seemed like Mason Plumlee was better at identifying that went on when he had the ball in the end, then Jamal Murray was Yup. Now, there are a lot of times. I mean, they didn't have like a bad offense of performance in this game by any means. But yeah, there are still a lot of times when they would drive to the nail and help go over from the weak side wing because that's the bucks to and they just could not get the ball there. A few other notes Paul Millsap was great early on in this when he was five of eight from three hit a couple of pick and pop threes. The nuggets actually hit four pick and pop threes in the first quarter between Millsap and Yokich. But I thought that they went a little bit more to Millsap than they should have like Millsap his great to go to in when he has an advantage mash up, and he was actually able to beat Ilyasova pretty badly. And then, but there are a few times when they gave him the ball, and he had the time, and he's still tried to take you on us. And it's just not going to work like honest is gonna stop Paul Millsap probably any points career. But certainly at this point as you know, I still thought that maybe the nuggets should try more like four one pick and rolls to try and get Millsap the ball off the dribble able to back down a smaller player. But you know, we haven't seen much of that from them. And then I felt that they really should have gone to more pick and roll late. I felt that it turned out not being correct? Because was just awesome in pick and roll defence and a causing Murray problems, though, they coulda gone to harass it in a pick and roll to. And then you know to try to get yoga to pick and pop he did miss one of those Murray did hit one following jumper on Lopez. Especially late in the game. You know, a good wide. Open to point jumper is actually not bad. When it kinda just becomes more important to be scoring every time as opposed to, you know, maximizing your return over the course of the game. You have to open two point jumper is a good shot in the last three minutes or so of a close game much more. So than it is earlier when you know, you can kinda get the added benefit of threes overtime, if you take enough of them they also had a few failures later. I mean, this is just for whatever reason under Malone, and who knows what he instructed the team. They get the two for one six second differential. They're down three now after getting the two for one Millsap with drove baseline on a dunk, and they immediately fall. Khris Middleton with thirty one seconds left in the game. He hits two free throws. It's back to five and the game is like it was just no re-. And you'll remember there was a time when they waited a really long time to follow the Goodson. Okay. See a couple of years ago, but they've had three or four these incidents where they just have. No rhyme or reason to why they're following when they're down at the games. And so this was just a another example of that. It was an and it's frustrating, especially when the person you're choosing to that differentials, Chris Nelson. Who's a really good free throw shooter? There's an even that benefit of. Oh, well, maybe if it's this guy, the numbers are different, you know, that sort of a circumstance I thought Denver's offense was really stagnant late in this game. And that's I've seen that before a little bit in the game against the nets. And then the Celtics make it, but the Celtics and the bucks make team stagnant. So I don't wanna say Owen a look stagnant. When the play calls for you to make a pass. And then Eric Bledsoe gets through the screen and denies the guy. And now you have to just go make a play, right? Like, I mean, a lot of that is, you know. And I thought they could have actually been a little bit more basic than they were at. The end and just absolutely the mismatch with with Lopez. A great. Yeah. There were some some low hanging fruit there, and I think we should talk a little bit more about Plumlee, he just fit really wellness game. I thought he made much better decisions early on. He was trying to post a position every once in a while. But then they kind of figure that out later on. And then defensively they looked better with Plumlee out there than they did with with joke. Some of that could be personnel. You know, Milwaukee has different had different personnel out there and everything else. But I mean he had a really good game. And while I disagree with the contract made some public is absolutely very good backup center to be. Sure. Yeah. And they actually were playing better they made their big comeback to get back into contact with him in the game at the start of the fourth quarter guarding honest. I thought he did a pretty good job. Again, we've seen in a lot of like pure power forwards even at this point aren't even strong enough to deal with Janas soda to having a center on who has some kind of mobility actually since work. Well, then I thought Malone did finally adjust to Lopez to put a smaller player on them because you know, the brook used to be a great postal blur. Maybe he still is. But. I mean, if he has five post ups this year, I'd be surprised, you know, it was probably the fifth bucks game. I've watched and I've seen him post up maybe like three times turning that. 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What are the fundamentals for the okay thunder thunder now seven and five five and once in the last fifteen in sixty eleventh in net rating, plus. Three basically eighteenth and offense. Second defense and five eighths protection. Give them fifty two wins, which ties them for second in the Western Conference. Yeah. That would be quite the coup if they can make it to the number two seed, really what this team has been about is that defense though, they have earned every bit of being second in defenseless. When you watch them they struggled against the Mavericks, but overall I mean, they caused just MS like the lowest scoring game by any team all season by Houston. They're just have length at nearly every position and those guys get shoot so much on the other end. Although there's still no eighteenth offense is not bad considering how good they're defending and what their personnel is. And the fact that Westbrook has missed all this time as well. So I'm feeling pretty good about those guys we were going to do time to panic on them. But then they went on this win streak. But I was ever really that worried about them since they started oh and four but to those gains without west broken than they had a couple of pretty tough games. Right. When he came back. I did watch that game. A against Dallas couldn't take that much away from it. They looked pretty tired. I did think that Alex brynas continues to show why it is that Billy Donovan just doesn't necessarily wanna play him or we'll play him to grudgingly. I mean anytime apprentice got matched up against Donncha. She just caught physically overpowered very easily would have we seen a from Dennis shooter. It seems like he's been playing a little bit better. Lately had such a bad start to the season. But it is overall number star amazing. They aren't actually before we get there. You talked about the the offense. I want to do this stat. So Russell Westbrook's only played two hundred and twenty minutes this year. Okay. Sees offensive rating is one twelve point six, you know, that that doesn't use any of the filters or anything else like that. But when twelve sixes, you know, that's fine. You're you're not freaking out for team as a one twelve offensive rating to be sure. And then when Russell Westbrook is on the bench, which is a higher proportion their minutes so far about ninety eight offensive rating. So that's not great. And that gets into something we should. And I it's he's a really. Interesting example of a couple of different kind of logical problems, some McCollum fallacies. I don't I don't really wanna go that far with it. And one is this idea that people remember good games a lot longer than bad games. Like every once in a while. I just get crap from fans when he plays really well, and and it's going to happen. Dennis shooter is not a bad basketball player. He is just an inefficient basketball player who is generally not playing at that level. But he will have very good games. Obviously he did pretty well in their win against Houston game that that the brackets looked pretty ragged in and he helps tribute to that. But and shooter scoring eighteen points gives do people like what you time. He's scoring eighteen points a game as a starter. That's a start number his he's actually not scoring not much less when he's coming off the bench because he's playing a lot. But eighteen points a game looks and feels different when somebody's forty-seven true shooting and twenty nine percent usage. And sure his true shooting percentage. Like as a starter is way down because he's only shooting sixteen percent from three in those games. But it's not his overall efficiency. Is right in line with his career stuff. Even though is three point ball hasn't been there as much and so what you're getting from sugar. And and he's been I would say when I've watched he's been better defensively than he was most time with hawks. But it's not like, I don't think they flip a switch with him. And he's all of a sudden the guy that I had higher in on draft where it's the most people because I liked his defense potential. So they've needed to have somebody when Westbrook has been out not only those I do games. But then also, you know now that he's missing additional time. But shooter is not just a player in the abstract. He is a player who has his own wants and needs who is also getting paid eleven and a half million this year next year in the year after knows compete, fifteen million fifteen million fifteen and a half million. I blacked out four million out of kindness. Well, and I mean, that's the thing. Right. If the answer is, hey, would you rather have a waived Carmelo Anthony under books for nine million this year? Or would you rather have dentist shooter on your team shirt? You'd rather have shooter like infected backup point guard. I think but he's also making fifteen and a half million himself and then. Oh, yeah. You're bumper. Also had two first round pick to get him. Right now. We felt in his actually probably been even worse than he is. You know, they've had under some really bad runs when he's been on the floor. And in fact, it was when he was out there that they really got killed against Dallas, particularly by Dallas backups. So you know, and Felton could just be done. He's thirty four. This year has really surprising that he's been able to be as effective as long as he has been frankly. And so, you know, they did really need backup point guard. And know, I think he's feeling a whole there. But you know, for to say even shoot were playing really well this year, which you know, he's I think he's gotten better defensively deserves credit for that. But you know, his close outs. He's a little bit more engaged defensively than he was as the main engine of terrible hawks team us your. But even if he was playing pretty well. So far this year. He's having a few good games. That doesn't the whole reason why we thought it was a bad idea to get him to do it. Number one. You had to give up a draft pick to do that in the vet that he's making fifteen point five million. And he's still probably over. Repaid on that contract. And there was no one else. Really? I think who was going to be giving up a first round pick for him. And so at the very least maybe it could have been a second to get him or something like that. But it was just and they did pay the hawks money to take on Carmelo salary for this year and avoid having distrust him, so that's part of the price for shooter as well. But I think the the hawks were static to get off of shooter. And also get a first-round pick at the same time. So we'll see we're not going to know. And really, you know, the reason you get Schreuder is for the playoffs. Right. All right. You might keep them afloat. Okay. When Westbrook is out. But if they lose in the first run again, they could lost in the first round without shooter and not had to give up a first round pick and not head his contract on the books going forward. So it's way too early to say because he's had a few good games that like, oh, no we're such morons for saying that those bad trade for them. Like, you're not really going to know until twenty twenty two probably. But certainly at least like, you know, let's see if you like really helps them where they're trying to get better in the playoffs. And I think that the big criticism of that move initially was will can he play next to Westbrook in a closing lineup in a playoff game. Because you're paying fifteen point five million each probably be able to do that. And I think the early returns are that that will not be the case against most teams. Additionally, if they were trying to get off of money, they could have done that in a lot of different ways other than taking on a guy who's getting paid more over the next three years than they owed, Carmelo Anthony like they could have maybe you don't get off the full twenty seven million maybe the hawk back ten or how their bunch of different ways that could have happened. But and maybe you give you give up a less protected. I 'cause that when that they gave up is I believe it's twenty one to thirty. If it's in that range of the hawks get it, otherwise, it's seconds or something like that. But again, there are there other ways if that was the goal to do it and backup point guard is something, you know, there is supply. There's imperfect supply, but Dennis shooter is imperfect supply to so I'm happy that he's doing well, you know, that he's had some better that he's doing wells overstating it that he's had some better games and we'll go through. But I think that's a good transition. Oh, now's your thing. You want to talk about Ferguson. All that. Right. Well, I I just thought is good to see him in that Dallas game using his f- lettuce is a little bit more and he flew in for try to get some tip dunks. He's been hitting the offense of glass with more when he gets out in transition. It's breathtaking how far away from the rim. He's able to take off. Now, he missed the layup. Of course when he did that. But I mean, it's just there's so many guys who are these amazing leaper and just don't actually jump very often. You know, you could put injure weakens in that category journal green was someone who's in that category. And part of the reason why actually pretty decent in last year's playoffs was started jumping more, you know, an actually like playing with more effort. So he's he's a guy who has some physical skills, and, you know, use been development has been retarded by the fact that he is so skinny and gotten a little better, but not amazingly better. But I think the big worry is just that he takes a few shots, but little baby steps here. He's certainly under the microscope. Some as far as. On this team is not being set up for anything other than just a wide open spot up three. So I don't know. I mean, the numbers on have been really bad so far. And you know, I'm not sure that he's really a great defensive player at this point in time to due to the lack of strength though. He does try. But you know, he's got a three point four PR. And he's doing that. Terrible. Double we should come up with with someone to name that after by the way, the like really low usage ten point five percent in his case. And also like terrible true shooting as well. Yeah. That can be a project of ours for the next year. We'll take some suggestions for that on Twitter actually of who which I mean, that's symbolic of all references. You know, the the Trenton hassle, you know, like one of these. They're definitely some guys who've been out there that do not shoot the ball. Well, and have really low usage also. But no, I mean, I think overall is probably too negative on the thunder. The shooter thing was on my mind because like we've kind of been getting these comments about it. Yeah. I mean, their defense is awesome. I think that's that's an important thing to understand. And I think our to restate, and I think Paul George has taken on a little bit more of the burden which has been which has been good. I would say overall it's not necessarily and every game thing, but he's had some some real good performances out there, and then I wondered about Jeremy grants fit in in the starting lineup. I thought it was more like e starting because they don't really have anybody else. And I mean did offensively. There is still some still some concerns there. Just because he is a more willing three point shooter at this point which is good, but he's still not making fun of him. But I mean defensively been absolutely monstrous with him and Adams together. And you think about that the success that this team is had so far when Russell Westbrook has played less than half of their minutes. That's pretty striking who's moved out to the Mavs four and eight two and four in their last six they're negative three point three net rating is twenty first in the NBA. They do if he fourteenth ranked offense though that is a massive improvement from last year, but the defense has been pretty disappointing one twelve defensive rating is twenty fourth and they project for twenty eight. Wins which put them thirteenth in the Western Conference. And there's a lot of things you can say about this team. But I just wanted to talk about what Luca Danni is doing so far here. This isn't going to be the full breakdown that he richly deserves. But just some things that have stood out. I mean, I think he's been everything that we hoped he would be so far. Would you agree with that? Yeah. I I've been the thing. That's been most surprising to me is that his scoring touch is better than I expected early on. I thought he would have to kinda weren the NBA differences a little bit more than he has. Yeah. Now, his shooting feels a little bit fluky yummy. He is a very talented maker. But right now, he's seventeen thirty five on Florida's his floater looked so good, especially if it's kind of short range one I mean like the piece that he plays with. I think part of why so good on the floaters is just that part of the reason why a floater is such a difficult shot is that most guys are going pretty fast, you're going towards the rim. And when you're not jumping straight up and down you have to just kind of just for like, okay? I'm moving forward. I can't shoot the shot with Naw. Normal strength that I would because I'm already moving forward. But then it's going to push it to far. So I have to shoot it a little bit softer. But how much softer to shoot it based on how quickly I'm going forward? And you know, sometimes you're going forward, really fast. You might be going forward at a different speed than you. Normally are. It's just so much less consistent overshot than just a normal jump shot where it's like, okay. I know the distance. I am this is how hard I have to shoot it. They're just more variables involved that you just you have to adjust for in your head. But the guys the best coordination your Mike Conley's, your Steph Curry's can do that. And I think Lucas looking like he's kind of in that category. But part of the reason I think that the floaters are easier for him is that he plays it such a deliberate pace, and he's able to shoot over the top of guys who are smaller who regarding guarding him and use his body to create space and feel comfortable that he's kind of at the same speed every time he shoots that floater. And he's doing it pretty slow and really the slower you're going. I think the easier it is to shoot that shot. Like Russell Westbrook. For example, has terrible. Floater like Brandon Ingram, a terrible, Florida. Those guys who are kind of always going one hundred miles an hour towards the rim and Lucas the opposite of that. He just he'll slowdown. He's got a lot of Gordon Hayward in his game as well where he can euro step. And then just once he's kind of slowed down. It's really hard. When the other guy is going slow to jump and time your job, and then he's able to use his height because he's larger than a lot of the guys that are guarding him. It's also look pretty good finishing around the room. That was something that was a concern of. But you know, he's totally good there for rookie a twenty one out of thirty four so over sixty percent there. And and getting the linings been not amazing but good enough, you know, twenty eight percent free throw rate for rookie rookies usually don't get to the line that much. I think he drew a lot of bullshit vials, especially like europhiles in transition or just you know, kind of rule bending fouls. That were just you know, he wasn't really getting an advantage and forcing them to follow. Just oh you put your hand in. I'm going to kind of draw the call, but he hasn't really been getting those kind of. But he's been getting enough for rookie. I think that's something that he's going to get better that and then the other thing this is probably the biggest thing I think is going to regress. It's got fifty eight points on fifty to jump shots off the dribble and all of those shots are difficult. I mean, some of the stuff back said he's hitting and hitting three ridiculous when he's shooting forty percent from three and more than half of his shots are off the dribble and probably at least half of those shots that are off the dribble are step backs. And so I don't know that he can continue to shoot that while I mean, even in Europe, you know, he was thirty four percents taking some very difficult attempts as well, these these attempts overall probably aren't quite as difficult for. But it could also be better as well. But that's probably the biggest thing I think will regress defensively, you know. It's not great. I mean, if he gets switched up onto somebody like Dennis shooter just blew by him in the late clock. Just had his hips turn no real attempts or a ability to get in front. You'll see him get blown by quite a few times. He's trying. I don't think he's like, he's got some pretty decent smarts. But I think he's going to remain a liability on that. End even in the regular season. And then you know, if these guys get into a playoff series, I think he could end up being severely targeted there. But he's we knew that was going to be the case about him. We've I think I mean is there anything that is disappointed about him? So far to you. I can't really think of anything to be honest, not at the top of my head. I mean, he did have some turnover shoes at one point. But I just you know, I think I'm largely I mean these at twenty percent right now, first of all that something that often tones down, you know, except for Angela Russell most young guys the ball in their hands. All the time turn the ball over more earlier in their career. But I wanted to throw another theory at you with Dodge's folder game. And this is an idea I've had before which is that guys who are really good passers might get a little bit more space for their floater. Because if it's kind of that too on one situation like that he you're so worried that he's going to pass the ball to somebody else that you're not contesting zealously because if you go out, and then you're probably making a different choice. And so he might just have a little bit more real estate as you mentioned he's taller than a guy like trae young. So he doesn't need as much to to get to get off. So people have to make them more explicit choice. If they wanna really contest voters. I think there's a lot to that theory, especially when you consider who is big saw, right? Like, the big is not coming over and making him rush that shot usually it's going to be the guy who was initially guarding him who's in the picture because of the gravity of de'andre or or if he happens be playing with Dwight Powell, mostly with the Andre the big always wants to step back and Lucas not coming at the rim, so hard that. It's like, oh, GATT gotta come over and help really hard here. I mean, he hasn't had that many assists. So far is four point five assists. But they've a lot other guys who do stuff here with the ball in their hands. So that's not the end of the what a few other notes on these guys that I thought one thing does the Luca related note. But I thought we saw how you know. Because the thought was all right. He's okay. Sees planning against Paul George George the assignment on him quite a bit. I always could be able to be Paul George like Paul George with these sort of long athletic defender in so George was out on the floor. Denying o'casey does a lot of that. He wanted to go to to Diego. And basically as soon as George stepped out tonight. I mean, cut backdoor and got a nice backdoor force Halbe and set up an open three on the other side is able to use just an example of how he can continue to be successful even guarded by a pretty athletic player by using his smarts. And you know, he's going to struggle against guys with a lot of length and a lot of quickness, you know, he's not like kicking Paul George is asked all the time. But I thought that was just an example of like, you know, the type of brain that he has as a guy who's like basically just turned nineteen here. A couple of other things for them. Harrison Barnes is really struggling. You know, he came back from that hamstring and we've seen him come back from kind of long term injuries before and really struggle in two thousand fifteen sixteen really the only other big injury of his career think he at a high ankle sprain missed about a month and really was not himself for quite some time. After that arguably that even ruined a nearly his entire season there a Barnes right now. And remember, you know, he's a guy who's doing a lot of. Damage on offense forty-nine percent shooting nine point one PR. He's still shooting. Plenty twenty three percent usage. That's about what you would think. He'd even turning the ball over more. And we just we haven't seen him get featured as much and that that's been part of it. Right. I mean for a couple of years now they haven't had any offense of options. And so so much of what they did was are small small pick and roll get the switch through to him at the elbow. Whoever will use to be guarding JJ berets on them. Now. Let him go to work you get to that mid ranger and a lot of it was built around him. And we haven't seen that so much. I think that with Smith with dungeon in particular. Now, the hope is that he could go into back into more of a role like he had in Golden State, but still has been able to hit shots hasn't been comfortable quite yet there and they actually went on a huge run in the first half against. Okay. See with Dory. Infant swift. Who's who's been fantastic so far Smith who are finished with? I should say there are real questions about whether you ever going to be able to make shot in this league after summer league two years ago. And then he missed nearly all last year with a quad issue. And he looks very very comfortable shooting the three it's still very early as eighteen out of forty. But it wouldn't surprise me if that's close more threes than he made all last year. And you know, the even was like coming off a screen shooting at three me, just look so much better and more comfortable taking that shot than he did in the past. That's really encouraging and he's a guy who has a lot of defensive potential and complete the forties. Twenty five this year. This is his third year in the league's will be restricted after the season not gonna do much other than make open threes. But with his defense, I think he can give them something. If he continues to shoot like this. He can. And you ask how close this is the last year eighteen this year twenty last year. Yup. So yeah, he's getting pretty pretty close that line. Also wanna make prevention we could on Trimble by more later. Maxi Cleveland is one of my favorite like under the radar players to watch in the league. And I mean, he did a lot of fun things the most memorable being that dunk on Julius Randle, which was just awesome. And the. Thing. It's been surprised that like he his block rate this year three point six hundred possessions. And yeah, obviously, he's not gonna play hundred possessions in a game. But if he two point seven thirty six minutes, he's just been getting after it and the game against okay, see was pretty strong example that paid four blocks in the first quarter in that game. The latest on Dirk Nowitzki. He was on the Mavs broadcast in this game. He said that he just continued to have setbacks with the tendon is tell you about his achilles tendon when he tries to ramp up his activity, and we'd get swelling. And so they've just had to be extremely conservative. The hope is that he can do some more running this week maybe like engage in some controlled practice situations of. But I mean it really especially at his age. You're kind of uncharted territory trying to come back from a surgery, and I think he's just he's frustrated that he doesn't know exactly how his body is going to respond when he tries to ramp up the activity, and it seems like for a lot of guys Mike Conley. A has had this a couple of times as well. Oh, where it was soreness in this achilles. Tendon that you just it's very tricky. And you have to ramp up your Tiffany, very slowly to avoid getting more inflammation. Where do you want to go next year? I guess we still gotta talk Lakers kings before we go. Yeah. So let's do those to the Sacramento Kings are seven and six two and three since the last fifteen sixty there negative one point six rating puts them twentieth. Their twenty first offense a still impressive fifteenth and defense fivethirtyeight projects seven have twenty wins which tied them for thirteenth in the Western Conference and still I mean, Sacramento, even if it lost a few more games they've been more consistent game in game out competitive than I I ever expected is moving in the time before they got down to fight back. But even now and a lot of different guys have been stepping up which has been encouraging foremost among those the has been deer and FOX, and we'll do a full breakdown improbably later on. But I think it's clear that he is playing by far the best right now of any of those twenty seventeen drought point. Guards who were selected in the top nine. And he to be quite honest. I wasn't down on him by any means. But I thought he was probably going to be the worst of those four guys ball Foltz Smith and FOX in any clearly has been the best so far and jump shot looks. But I mean, he's actually showing more confidence getting even to some step Bax. You know, he's really been so key for them with his ability to run and push the pace which has been a big component of their offense. And one thing I want to say about FOX so far we'll do the video now since later, but he's getting to the line a ton this year, and that's a massive difference. So last year if you want to do it per thirty six minutes three point five free throw attempts per game this year seven free throw attempt is basically doubled and he's not getting ten shots at the rim. But if you're not going to get shots the rim, but you're kidding fouled. All the time. It's fine. And he's also taking twenty three percent of his shots from three and hitting forty one percent of those now, I think that's probably going to go down to some degree. Yeah. Yeah. I hate to. Rain on the parade. Though, you made a good point. We're talking yesterday that their upcoming schedule looks pretty rough and while certainly their fundamental. They've had some nice winds or teams interior. They weren't supposed to be so nice road. Winds of you know, their point differential is is pretty much right about where they are as as a five hundred team. But it doesn't the schedule is going to be pretty hard for really the next month. Or so the next game that San Antonio started that Sacramento place. I'm thinking about this because bring San Antonio on Monday next game they play against a team that is not in the playoff mix. So that doesn't necessarily. I mean, you don't know who's gonna make is December fourth when they play Philly or starphoenix Phillies in the plant. Thanks. So a lot of good teams. A lot of road games. Like ATM Memphis at Houston back to back and even some of their some of their home games. You're sitting there going, oh, maybe they could win that. And I'm not saying they're going to lose all these games. They aren't the win a couple of. But that will be a way for them to fall back to earth, and they already have a little bit. I mean there one win in the last four was that game against Minnesota which helped. Feels Jimmy Butler trade and that team leave. There's a lot of great writing. How they've been on the brink. Will we've talked about them on Saturdays podcast. We'll do that again soon enough. So yeah, I mean, the Sacramento, I think they are definitely better than I expected like there was this idea about how many tears are there at the bottom of the league. And I think they're they moved up in that better more than I expected, which is a very good thing for them moving forward. And I wanted to see how the Lakers game. I how you thought that affected your approach on this team yet was worrisome that they really struggled to score. Now part of that was just good shooters missing open shots. And I think also reintegrating bogdonovich has been a little bit of a struggle. He's coming back from injury. So he's not going to be perfect right away, buddy healed in particular who has shot the ball. Very well as a king heads of wide open ones in the third quarter that maybe could have changed the game though. They ended up alternately getting blown out in that game by the Lakers. They still really just don't have anybody other than FOX on the team who can beat their man like when. Elites tries to put it on the floor. It's just just can't get by his guy. No matter who it is a, and, you know, Frank Mason isn't going to be able to get to the basket and finish the do end up with a lot of mid Rangers. They take some pretty difficult three pointers, but not enough three pointers overall. You know, again, it's just a lack of penetration because they do have guys who can shoot the three weeks of FOX's shooting more. You know, they usually have either healed or bogdonovich out there. Those guys are pretty good shooters Justin Jackson firearm up Shumpert actually has been shooting reasonably well, though, he's come back to earth a little bit delete says out there at the four. They played Bagley. Summit the five as well. I think they've been doing more of that lately with Harry Giles who not in the rotation any longer. He was actually just assigned to these Stockton kings Costa kudos is okay on defense still. But he is just a really awful often to player at this point is pick and roll guy. I mean, he the best shot. He's gonna get as a roll man is like a floater from the free throw line, which is newsflashes not a great shot. So when he was out there, you know, they'd throw in the ball, and it just would kind of die. You know when you catch the ball? With the free throw line and just didn't really have an opening. And then I think another thing that's been underrated weakness for this team that I just don't see getting any better as their defensive rebounding. They call he Stein isn't like the earliest box out guide delete is way below average rebounders four he can't get off the ground. And then, you know, they're playing basically, they don't really have any three men on the team, and they're really small at just about every position except for center. So and FOX, you know, he's not a great rebounder. They got Mason dot great rebounder healed by Donovan, it's like these guys are just not great on the glass. So they they really got hurt by Tyson Chandler some in that Lakers going pretty good offensive rebounding team. So I don't know like it does seem like a little bit smoke and mirrors here to be as good as they are in a lot of it's dependent on the pace too. I think that's something that teams can kind of be more prepared for as time goes on and the kings kinda just get that reputation as being zoning pushes the pace of. But you know, they certainly like the important thing for them is that FOX looks good. They can take solace in that. They can take less than the fact that they picked Malva Bagley over Luca Dutch, although Bagley did have one move where he actually went to his left shoulder in the post. It was a fadeaway jump shot. But you know, there's a little bit of progress at least shot with his left hand to at least turned that way up. But it doesn't seem like Bagley as anywhere close to really contributing at that positive level for them. What it's good that. They're actually playing bag laid center, which I think is the end game with him. I mean, maybe I don't know where he slots in there like where he ends up as a Senator. But defensively it's much more natural fed it ties in with the parts of defense that he's better at and unless his lateral quick get way better I would expect that final position and they had a lot of centers. I mean, collie Stein. Kufo. Zeba who's basically non existent in the rotation? And I think sometimes that leads to guys getting put in weird spots. I mean, we're seeing this a little bit with Jaren Jackson junior. Not that I'm criticizing Memphis is doing with him. But it just it's a good example of like a guy getting put it. In a weird peg Aaron Gordon had this admit various moments in his career. And at a certain juncture, if somebody is your most important piece to evaluate you wanna put them in the place that is most presentative of what they're going to be doing. Yeah. I mean, I think the biggest people who can't be happy about this are Celtics since they have that unprotected kings pick. But we'll see where they end up at the end of the year. Obviously those the the lottery reform as well. It's not unprotected its top one protected while but but as far as the kings are concerned. Yes, some yet. Yes. Yeah. I know probably I mean, they'll be indifferent to losing later on the season. But I mean, they have a lot of guys. I think they'll they'll end up. Probably pulling some games out. I haven't looked at their April schedule yet. But I'm sure that's going to be something that happens anything else. A number want to move to the Los Angeles, Lakers shoot. What do you got for them? The Lakers are seven and six after winning on Sunday night against Atlanta in a very bizarre game. And they're five and two since last fifteen sixty plus one point two and net rating actually moved down after winning a game. Which is kinda funny there. Fourteenth in net rating thirteenth offense and sixteenth and defense. So they've actually been sliding on offense and moving up on defense, which is interesting for few reasons projected wins forty six which would tie them for six in the west. I think it's three teams at the moment, we're recording this that five thirty s projected for six seven eight, and I'll talk just briefly in that game was my secondary for a lot of a lot of the day. But the Lakers what was so weird to me? And I'm gonna just need to keep an eye on this is that I mentioned in the Denver section that their offense. Look really stagnant late. There were a lot of plays in the later push in this game. Remember at latest is awful. Like, this is not a team that is challenging they have a lot of places that you can attack. They don't really like they could have gone after trae young they could have gone after mar Spelman lots of different things and a lot of it ended up being in the late portion this game. Let's all stand around and watch LeBron. And while a lot of LeBron teams end up doing that. And we're getting to a point with him kind of like with Russell Westbrook where it's like if you see the same players teams look similarly in similar situations. With different coaches in different teams. Maybe there's something else that's going on. But it's just so bizarre because it just think they're going. This isn't what's good for LeBron either? Lebron is you know, he's passing maestro. He's the best passer of his generation get some ball movement. Get some people movement like just give him windows. So we can do things, and I just I get angry watching them in the last three minutes games because they could be doing more than they're doing. Yeah. And LeBron isn't even really attacking, you know. And I thought early on in the season they had some more ball movements up to try to get him at the elbow. But in these end a game situations and just overall in isos, the number one that doesn't really seem like they're doing much to get smaller players onto him. But then even when he has the matchup against guys that just can't deal with him at all your hued have a matchup, for example, in the kings game against I can't remember who it was now a thought ahead of my notes, but I don't think it was a really to 'em. You just goes to a step back three with ten on the shot clock. And you know, he can hit that shot. To his left. But it's like the reason you're LeBron James is because you can beat demand UP elites off the dribble and force help and threw a pass. I think the numbers here are really telling he's only in the thirty six percentile and isos scoring. And then when you include his passes, you're there, even lower than that twenty seventh percentile, you know, and they're not many of the shots as a small sample to be sure. And part of the problem has been the spacing to when he's driven. He hasn't really done that what he's only got twenty two points on twenty five possessions to drive to the rim. But you remember how like when they first sign LeBron. And then it was like, oh, yeah. You know, we're gonna get playmakers for him. So that he can get the ball in the post, which didn't really make much sense. Because as soon as you throw to in the posts in those playmakers become just more guys, we can't shoot. But the news is going to post up only twenty posts up possessions all season that's less than two a game days, actually, finishing the most. He's been very effective on those. But you it's really been more lately. Pick and roll I so and and there have been times when they put shooting. Run that he's absolutely destroyed everyone in those situations, but Ethan was talking about this the other day that he just he has not been this irresistible force for the even offense ably young just as not been and because of his brain, and because of his is because of his passing ability, you know, he's still very effective player, and he's going to be a very effective player for a long time. But he just doesn't seem to be just this unstoppable. Force at the end of games. Like we've seen in the last couple of years in particular last year. Yeah. Me last year that Cleveland team what pushed them from being even though they ended up with a shaky record. What kept them alive was being amazing in clutch games, and a lot of that credit had gone to the combination of LeBron Kyrie in the past and Kyrie was gone. So a lot of that went on LeBron and defensively he's been, you know, more miss than hit. I would say overall and sure you could be optimistic that that will come in and later, but this is also a team that at least this year, probably not moving depending on what they get in free agency. That probably isn't going to be playing for a title. So yeah, he will ramp it up, but remember like in the twenty sixteen NBA finals when they won and LeBron was spectacular. I thought for the first couple of games that finals he was still coasting a little bit. And then he really kicked it in. I think somewhere around game three, and if they need if they're going to make a run this year the Lakers need that LeBron from the first game of the first round. The good news, though, is that they've been defending much better. We noted that when they signed Tyson Chandler how much better they had been playing when they had a true center, and that was jovial who doesn't have the greatest defensive history, but has played pretty well as the Laker. And that they just hemorrhaged points when they didn't have true center in the game will now they've tightened the Jenner. He's played three games with the team. His defensive rating is eighty nine point three. That's what they do with him on the floor and then overall defensive rating ninety seven point four in the three games that includes some garbage time. But in games with they've been well below appoint per possession anytime one of those two centers. Is on the floor. They've ultimate killing the offensive glass. Three five percent, offensive rebounds. In the last three game to Chandler has been a big part of that. But yeah. And I mean that swung a couple of these games. I mean, the the big offense of rebounds that he had in his debut were huge. And then he had five against the hawks which ended up giving them a couple of extra possessions and indicate decided by one point all of those matter. Yeah. So we'll see mean they have won three in a row now, they haven't beaten anyone to awesome. The schedule. Also has got newsroom they had a pretty tough schedule in the beginning of the year. You know, there weren't really any easy breaks for them in the beginning of the year fuel notes from this kings game. I think that you know, cow Calcutta is just rounding up parts of his game. Just a little bit. You know, he's he was really bad defensively last year, but you'll see him. He's not amazing now, but you'll see him actually, you know, make some place he'll get out on the floor denying a little bit. And then offense. He's thrown a few days past the really nice Allieu when he drove baseline and and through to Chandler for a tip. And so just there's little tiny things that you're seeing in his game where it's just becoming. More of a winning player. More of a guy who is going to do more than just put up his own stats, which you know, he's certainly is capable of doing. He hasn't had as many chances to create on his own this year, but he's still managed to play pretty well. Rhonda's standstill three really like it's getting to the point where actually expected to go in a reasonable amount. Now, it doesn't look to take that shot that much, but when he's just left wide open. I don't think you could just straight up leave him anymore. Now that means like when you throw the ball to you probably need to close out. You can't just stand under the rim that doesn't mean don't help off of him because he's still looking to take that shot. But you gotta at least close out him. And then when he drives, you know, he's not necessarily going to kill you. There contiguous call. We'll pope against the kings. I didn't see what happened against the hawks. But against the kings us actually playing more than Josh heart, and everyone is killing that contract one year twelve million as like, oh, man. You know, that's just the LeBron clutch sports gift, but no actually Casey P one year twelve million based on how he played last year other than the. One year or the one month years under house arrest actually is like was a really good player and this year. He can't hit a shot. He's head that knee tendinitis that he's dealt with Alta campy isn't brought the same energy in transition. He's been the one guy hasn't really benefited that much. He used to be a guy who could really get out for some flying dunks and transition. We haven't seen that from him is confidence with his jumper. Looks way off a so I think that's hurt them. And you know, they've gone to this jumbo starting lineup now without either heart or KC p in the game. I think that'd probably because they're so big the spacing isn't great. But they also have a little more versatility. There at times aiding else you understand these guys at all just briefly. I want to keep an eye on two things written Ingram. He's only played in. You know, it's a small sample size for him because he was suspended and missed missed a series game. Because that he's three point a temporary is barely higher than last year. He's sixteen percent of his shots as opposed to fourteen percent last year both of those crazy low in so far this year. He did have six attempts from the line tonight. But free throw temporary does also lower than it was either of his first two years. Some of that could be the the weird spacing and some some of the figuring out the land of stuff here but Ingram, I think has the biggest adjustment of any of the Lakers young guys to make playing with Laurent just because of what he did. Well last year, and I'm just going to need to keep an eye on how that process is going. Well, and here's the other big problem for him forty eight percent from two, but that's just not good enough for him. And he's just like he just has to find a way to get easier shots like a turnaround contested ranger out of the post for Brandon Ingram is not a good shot for this team. They have too many other guys who can attack on this team now. And so he's got to be able to find something else to do. And I think you know, when he's gotten the ball at the three point line. Like I haven't seen him just like passing up shots. It just seems like he's like not really standing there that much like like I haven't noticed. They just throw it to him at the three point line. And he's just like not willing to shoot. Like, he's been really aggressive is just he's not doesn't seem to be receiving the ball in that position for what? Ever reason? So we'll see I mean, he also he sprained his ankle against the kings on Saturday night. He's also kinda struggled through his career with little nagging things here and there so I mean, I still feel like these guys, you know, that forty six wind production from five thirty eight year that seems just about right where they're headed to me. But I. See them getting better. There is good. See LeBron star play better. I could see them certainly hit more shots. You know, overall the team they're thirty five percent from three they got thirty eight three-pointers tonight, which is you know, they haven't really been that low in three pointed temporary. And so I think the shooting issues are a little bit overblown. I mean, you know, we pointed to that obviously, it'd be great if they had a ton more shooting the shootings gonna manifesting itself. More than just the way LeBron is playing in his numbers, maybe than anything else. Yeah. And we're gonna I think get some clarification between now and the next time we record on them because while it's only a small trip, and it's not like opponents are star studded they have at Orlando then at Miami on a back to back and then at Cleveland, and so those are all teams they should handle Miami. Their defense can give some team can give a lot of teams trouble. But if they struggled through those games and pull them out if then that's one thing if they lose one or two of them dig out a little bit differently. And while they're going to the Lakers are going to look meaningfully different in March than they do right now because of the suspension. And all the weird stuff with his team. I I wanna get a better sense of who they are even just at this moment. So maybe that Sunday game against Miami will be one that I watch closely. All right. Well, the good news for you. As listeners is when we split up the fifteen and sixty we end up talking about these teams for a lot longer. So this is our thirty recording time probably will longer once we are shorter. Once we cut out the the silences ending yards. Talk about voivode any all reiterate Jimmy Butler. Steph, not only our podcast. I wrote a CBS center piece on it for the and if you haven't listened to it yet, I released on Friday podcast time have stroke for real jam radio. And we ended up talking about his Steph curry piece, and then a lot about kind of where offense and defense in the trade offs are going an interesting conversation that that type of thing that doesn't necessarily happen. A lot on podcasts because it's just not time sensitive is where the league is going right now. And so if you wanna kinda here our thoughts on that you can check it out. Yeah. Looking forward to listening to that one probably on the way to work on Tuesday. Actually, don't get as much time to listen to other podcasts as I might like. And what are we doing the Tricia? Thursday this week for warriors at rockets that is the plan. Yeah. So hopefully Korea will be back for them to though, it might be a better game. If he's not I have a feeling he won't be though. The kind of just seems like the way I I'm guessing I'm guessing that he'll be somewhere somewhere shortly after especially because that games on the tail end of back to back. So we'll see. So be played in the front end November twenty ninth is the one I wanted to be back for at raptors. All right. Well, thanks for listening. We'll talk to you all probably Tuesday night. We'll be back again. Then you must love hoops. If you're enjoying another great episode of dumped on the lockdown podcast network has more hoops for you. Locked on has a podcast on every NBA team. If you're a Lakers fan a bucks fan Celtics fan or a Mavericks fan. The lockdown podcast network has a daily podcast on your favorite team. All thirty NBA teams have daily podcast at locked on. 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But anthony durell guy that you know wasn't questioned during one of the tyson. Fury fights as to being part of that tyson fury team while he's now in a picture. Tyson fury a very bulky. Tyson fury very muscular tyson fury tyson fury came into the rematch with deontay wilder. At two hundred seventy four pounds and he did look a bit solve but that extra weight caused all the problems that we see in that fine. Now he's bulking up that way. Is he gonna move better. Is it going to slow him down. And he's going to get robotic as he likes to question and sees. Aj bad news for a while because he's getting stronger. What we're gonna be talking about the fact that it looks like fury's in can't four that fight. We know johnny nelson adam smith and a few others have been letting the cat out the bag that they feel that. This fight is going to happen. That fury has let it out he will be signing those contracts so looking like wow. The fury threes imminent. Fury's already in training camp in miami. And i'm just saying he looks bulky is hell. That's a big as bicep. Chess got definition his face. Nice and lean. Talk to me fellas. Good morning good morning. Toronto canada jersey doomsday. What up is tbb. Enya a year man. Soon as i seen this dumb they. I'm like the nets Play with this is something that he widened it out. You know there's some trickery going on here but nah man it's Tyson fury flexing and ozzy ethic. Does anthony the railing and I just you know. I'm i'm impressed. You know the guy looks huge But again going into what. I just mentioned to man it's It could be it. Could work against you right francis. What about chip the praying mantis years What everybody are there. Everybody's good man thanks to my lord and savior for another one a lot of the another. You know what i'm saying. Shot to alexander demand. Nestor is doing francis. Toronto canada. We appreciate your. This is amazing topic. Talk about this morning. Tyson fury and looking to be in tremendous shape tie sphere look into taking on his training camp. Sears worries looking to fight and This picture gunning tells thousand words picture You know could be photoshop to zone in. This picture looks amazing. They look amazing. Looks good. he looks like he's taken the time since his last fight will while they're pretty serious in terms of getting his body in better shape and his mind better shape. So let's see I'm not really a fan again. I'm going to stand on my square. I'm not a fan for eighty fury. Next i really wanna see the third one because Just be based off the contraction agreement but Yes boxing man. Crazy things have happened. What's going on now man. You know it's it's it's exciting to you know get an inst- gig get the word imminent there. I and if it's really truly imminent man. We might just begin in fury versus wilder. What we wanted all along and That that that's a that's a plus Still though you know just going back to what it is you know. He's down there in miami. He's doing his thing he's he's he's the type of fighter man that really really locks into what he has to do in order to win and You know him bulking up echo work against them. Yeah he could get a little too heavy. Mike my get tired in the later rounds but what's the reason for bulking up right. He was already huge but now he's sort of like bulking up like he's getting real real ma- muscle mass on them. You know the last fight. He was huge but he didn't look so solid like he doesn't it's picture now as he bulking up because me he heard or maybe he didn't write that maybe while there's bulking up i mean you know. He was a smaller fighter in the last fight. Why not go back and bulk up right there. So i don't know if he's trying to but the while the come in like two thirty two second fight He did bulk up. But if you just came in heavier. Yeah yeah i would have to go back right now and check that out but he still the tinier guy twenty five. He was still the tinier guy his heaviest. If you check you know is not a lot of times high. Definitely that frame. That frame can hold more weight. I mean he he probably has this crazy metabolism. The probably doesn't let them but If he could pack on some muscle and and you know know know how to oxygen muscle and not and not spend so much energy. Be the guy that's tired at the at the championship browns. A i think he could do it. Man i mean look you're gonna have to be big to fight fury that's his thing but what about the fact that they both in miami while was in. We reported on while defending miami. Maybe a month ago and he was getting or looking like he was packing on a little bit of looks like two mountains. Do cross paths shit. Quick real quick shot out to one of our own marlins so icy sims. Thank you for the shirt. Thank you for giving search to all our winners at border. Wars wracking the so You know a payroll right now. More of you fight. It should take advantage of a border wars. And things like that and get your name out there marlon definitely ahead of the curb when it comes to social media so once again thank you tomorrow and so icy sam's i'm rocking it right now. What up chain. Yeah man feel like throwing mine all right now. But i'm gonna let you read right now. I'm late too late to the patty. We would all came on with real corny like the three musketeers. Or like boy hell awake. Turn the boy band right now but I'll know man i don't know you know it's funny because in the past like you would be like. Oh he putting on my muscle and you would think that's a bad thing but you know when when you see inferior maneuver the way that he did with the with the heavier weight. That wasn't 'cause i'm not necessarily calling his bokan he could be defined and like he. He's starting to look like his muscles you know he's got definition in his chest and his biceps. So you know. I don't know that that is broken up more than it is molding putting things where they belong. Move better right because the weight shifts if you slap you in the mid section that way is shifting but if you are more solid you probably going to move a little better you know. But what's your question champion. My question is we cannot see you. You being you being you being You being Six five right and having to care of your own you know close at three hundred pounds and then coming down to to you know to seventeen to fifteen some around there. Being the bigger guy who wins you get used to carry around the weight so it wouldn't be a big all your life like andrew way right. That doesn't mean that you perform at optimal peak performance. Right like you're used to carrying your weight. Supermax is used to carry on his way. That doesn't mean that he's going to be his most most athletic at that week. He's yeah i get what you're saying. I wouldn't necessarily use mixes as like what i'm not reason. I'm saying because like being natalie able to well and it was being able to I've seen bigger guys like give example like robert tractor trailers. The basketball player was massive man with two hundred fifty pounds. But did you get up and down that court and thought i wait around. You know what. I'm saying that he's able to to know how to handle the pounding on the needs of that way. So i'm figuring a fury being big all his life. I mean obviously being out of shape and being big as different. Nba shape and carried away. That it was just my question. I have to ask you guys if if it makes it a little bit easier that if used to carrying the weight on the frame that it'd be easy for you to turn to fat into muscle and still it's just body composition right same same weight. Yeah i mean look turning fat into muscle is sometimes it goes in. It goes into the mind the wrong way right. If you're not turning fat into muscle right. You're losing fat and you're putting on muscle so if you you know if stats that question clear as i can. And it's just it depends. He lo he could just be naturally just gifted. You know bigger bone density. And he's just he's able to carry that weight you guys freeze for second you guys. Okay so i it just. It's just a matter of You know how. He's carried it all his life. You know he's been big before you know a lot bigger. But he's always been a big guy you know so in the only time that he's been really really really really big was when he was off you know out of the ring and that was. I don't even know how much weight that was. Probably four hundred pounds or whatever it was. It was really really unhealthy. But you know it's guy. I don't see him ever really going under two fifty like you know. He's just massively big and and he just he knows how to move. He knows how to move now. If you ask me now bulking up going back to what i mentioned in the you know. It's like it can work against you can Get tired a little faster. You know you gotta you gotta know how to put on the weight. The right way to you. Know you can't just be a You know putting on all this muscle and and expect the you know still perform in the same way so you know. It's just a matter how how how they're going about it. He's always been light on his feet. So you know. I i wanna see the same thing from him. I if you if you got if you got a you know. Tyson fury a heavy tyson fury not able to move on his feet. Then he's gonna be he's gonna be in trouble man while there's going to be able to land that shot a lot easier so you know we'll see we'll see what he's doing on the possibly be heavier well. Muscle weighs more than fat and And then and then and then the you know when when when he says it himself he gets a all the time. call him a robot he just. You got a lot of muscle. It's just known that you spend more oxygen and you know you're not it's fluid at times as as as when you build long lean muscle. Now if he's built in long lean muscle. Like i said it all depends was out there in that corner of the mouth. I don't know if you're watching this now. This looks like a clip from ten minutes ago. He looks at jau to me. You know that was always the and worry When it came to fury a guy this big moves this well It's always going to be an issue. You know you know. He pivots well at that height and weight He uses his reach An and lee jab han as a forearm. He just knows a lot in little tips and tricks to be allusive in their bro but he looks good and he's working on powerrr. Those triple left hooks. He's looking he's working for the body where he was successful with a knockdown in the last fight and he's definitely working on those triple. That folks did you know I ain't on front. I feel like those look a little slow but who knows you know around. This is right. You know who knows what what's the level of intensity but again it's the movement is the movement. It's always going to be an issue today. Say keep your head off. The line had moved mayhem movement and Not only does he have had movie nowadays. He keep his head off the line but he moves well man would would yeah got he got good head movement to his movement is what is what. We're so impressed of of him being heavyweight and being able to do these things right. I mean he's hitting the baggies looking like he's he's he's he's working on some inside work right you see them throwing shopping f. The shovel left left uppercuts of the body. And then he triples level. Yeah he that's inside work right there man as mid range inside work and this is recent This is this is now right right go. According to his story. Wow why don't we. Why don't we get more and more more of this from from wild it's more about going silent purposely Member the silence drove people crazy. Where's your guy. He's hiding everything. The silence probably brought more or gave him more clarity. Vin talking right that being said i would love to see some working. You know all we got was that picture to surface of him in miami. I would love to see something that pertains to him working out and something that pertains to who he's working out with but Real quick. I want to remind everyone if you are a patriot Even at the entry entry level We are employing you to go ahead and vote on our end of the year award ceremony for our border wars series. We have a board awards. Awards that we wanna give out february march thirteenth at our next boorda wars event and we wanna be able to give You know trainer of the year award out so we want you to go ahead and nominate. Who you feel is worthy of trainer of the year. Even though they disrespect and do me. You see now do me. You ain't even mentioned it's so right man. You know i i can like me. You ain't fight this year like you take me to four no and successfully defend my titles like i'm not the only four no fight in the fucking series widow belt who's supposed to be four. No then just shit the bed but they just overlook me you don't had like nine man we so good day in a category of our own. That's what they doing but anyway trae another year. Then we got border. Wars twenty twenty most improved fighter. We got border wars fighter of the year. Remember this is twenty twenty. We had three board. Was this season. Big things next year. 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Were doing florida now. He's in the uk. Absolutely not absolutely not tyson fury. Who's been proven and listen to this show Probably just throwing the smoke off the trail. But i screen share hills instagram that he specific on his caption. This isn't a throwback thursday. This is specific. Option that i'm gonna pull up now so that you guys can see it instead of me looking at it on my phone. obviously in his instagram cronk. Sugarhill hit him up the secret. We get him on his show you can. Do it got if he answers. I think they're in the gym. That's why he nancy get below but see. This is what we are looking at. And people are confusing this clip with tyson's tyson's jim right or this is this could be tyson fury jim because it got the while it got the wild pig deer right so You know he built a new gym right. Who right yeah. Yeah. that's yeah. That clip is old but but it looks like the one that i was playing from this morning this ten years ago by escalate this picture. This picture is sixteen hours ago now and he says training day twenty twenty fighter year. So you know they not it. Sounds like they started camp to me in an i mean. It doesn't have any indication that this is When when he trained them to become fighter of the year now. He's congratulated him because him and see a female are sharing fighter of the year. And it looks like he's saying training day twenty twenty so for him. Campus started right anthony. Durell right away is is not only in the pitcher but he comes back and comments. Same day sixteen hours ago so other people noticing what i'm noticing tyson is in shape tyson. Looks like joshua in this pick. What did i say you know. He he talks about josh lewin and muscles but he's spoken up himself right. Fury looks swollen. You know just thinking. That tyson looks better every day physically. So if you want to believe this pictures oh cool. Well he fooled the saw. Everybody on his fury looks incredible. Tyson has some apps showing you know if you wanna think this fake coup. Don't don't go to work. Don't go to work and you know we'll see what happens on finite but these these pictures look real to me and they were for thousand words and they got over a thousand comments so we good man we're going with that until proven he was running in the uk. This morning though. I seen the story thought that was the uk. i mean. look my i. i haven't seen my florida. look like that. But it don't matter whether he was dead now he's over there later. This is this is how he's looking shape boys. The man is shape and we. We expect guy to be shaped to man. I know i don't listen. This is why we want this fight so going bad man is because we know that these two guys now already patty for each other. This time around is not going to be not Stone left on turn. So you know it's it's it's going to be another game plan from the sugarhill camp man. I mean the last cat man look eleven months ago. You did a show just like this man and It was you know. Tyson fury drip embodies in half down in florida. And you know doing his thing so it looks like this man is You know he's back at it again. Strengthened in the jaw greasing up the the knuckles assume. Some hot grease whatever though they do in a An and they're getting ready getting ready for while the man crazy way broke the gym sealant with that right hook. Shit new Jim that he just budget. He hung up on a rail man. I know that my little brother would knock that off two seconds. Stay lucky he gets. Yeah october thirtieth. Is this video. He's eight thirty. This sugarhill posted this. He in shape shape. Let's see what's Hill story same picture. He put it again on his story. Matt shit real you compared to photo old school music on it now. That's how you do it. The oh school miss okay. Was this shit. let me go back. Hey let me see if this is the name of the gym because that looked like the gym human per phone spent on not as a strength and conditioning coach. Anthony the relatives in their way. He's looked like a gym. Let me see if this guy the address. This fury was working on btv shoe. I is that adelaide there. Who's the hundred like this. I don't know man. Oh yes e- boca down. So it is miami book boca raton. I thought i keep thinking they somewhere else. They working the picture says boca raton to you. See the one in the gym so the gym is in boca raton. And the photo is geo tagged book got thrown so look you guys keep saying that his last story he's in the uk. I just checked gypsy kings last story. It's the same clip. I showed you of him running. I mean of him of him of him In the bag look. This is his last quick. Look right there. That's him in the bed. The same clip. I showed you see him run with skull leon with on his story. I just went to all his story. That's the first story. Second third fourth fifth six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen fourteen fifteen sixteen eighty nine hundred twenty one done you tripping. Nah must've racist raced race. It was the first one to talk radio. It ain't happened straight up and down like man he up to. He looked like he in shape. I ain't gonna look you don't you don't say he's not in shape. This is a this is. This is the the the the old here you know. This is just him. Running was a day ago. Yes what i'm telling you. It's only a five hour flight. Can't be where he can awoke up yesterday for early morning. Run in than a flight like air fury and show up at age as fight in all. Could we go calicoes three times. No one day. We're going to be able to afford rob and then we always go and look good. Because he's that's what we need a silent producer dog stopping trying to be like haters. Look at what the put fucking always wanna make ness look look at what. The rail good work today. Motherfucker been grinding on my life today. Not friday not not a throwback thursday little widows suspect she all you widow cake. I'll eat though you ain't three times championship three times champion. Not knowing should as jewish on my he's in the uk. I i think not. That ain't with derail that ain't with the rail saying he got that. Private jet like mayweather man. Mad lessons to story. That's the one. I was talking about that. There is a day. Oh i just went through his story and yeah they'll screen shit for y'all like whatever you saying is there is dead now. What you saying it was there. Rob sent me a clip of but it's a day ago. Yeah it was twenty four hour. That's why he raced right so twenty four hours on his time line. sixteen. I go on crunch tomlin. They was in boca raton. Whatever you wanna say say you know. The timestamps did instagram. Don't lie you. Also so i'm not touch our touch on the other side of the or the or the last part of that title man is bad news for wilder. Is it bad news facebook. I don't how i mean look. He was already pig and that she was bad news. Exactly so that's why it's got bad news for wildlife question because if he was sloppy big and gave him trouble was going to happen. You know lean and big. Yea fights gonna start early. And that's the way i see. If he's spoken up muscle like that. He his game plan has to be that the fight starts early he gets while they're out of their In the early rounds before before the second half of the fight and the reason. I say that because you know if broken up for strengthened all that you bet you bet you bet to. You're gonna start gasping at the championship rounds carrying all that way that muscle weight in providing all night. Yeah so now a- while the key comes in strong as ever to you know he bulked up to is is going to be a fight and it's going to be the better better athlete. I guess whoever has the guests at the end but it's trouble while wilder yemen. I mean magin those clinches how they're gonna look like you know when you lean on them and head locking them gotta make the adjustments. You know what i'm saying i. It can't be that attitude defy some fighters light to have. I'm not worried about what he's doing. We working on what we i. i want. That speed adjustments man while this way faster than than fury man if he puts that speed on them on the inside us some angles. He he'll be able to You know he'll be able to give up fury some problems but if they're on the inside man it's going to be fury who's going to be the stronger guy i mean. How much can you bulk up and muscle. You know what i'm saying. If you're already you know stretching it and making two twenty five. I mean what do you think does he does. He bulk up to forty muscle muscle. You just an e situational. I guess clinton working on what to do and how to clinch versus allowing him to lay on you drain you you know. He was putting a lot of weight on wilder while the needs. They need to teach moves on the inside. Like i believe on you. You know you wanna do a show importer shovel out the way digging through about something. They can't just sit there and try to wrestle with this do he. He's almost while came into twenty five. He came in he was fifty pounds. Heavier that's a lot. That's what i mean. We're scheduled to have our first guests on line sent them delinquent just waiting where having dion. Nicholson the equalizer He's a undefeated cruiserweight. Bangor just got another knockout improves to fourteen and oh with thirteen. Kate does that big right and left him being his equaliser so once he jumps on we're going to Go ahead and Interview him we did put out a posted night before. So you guys could ask them a question specific question and we're gonna read those for you once he jumps on change. Yeah man interesting interesting photo. Men interesting photo you know. And that's even for you do me. Look man he's making the physical change in his body man. You know a lot of you guys. i hear you. You procrastinate man. you don't wanna change your lives. You don't want to change the shape of that pillsbury dough boy body. I got this little mitchell. Entire store saying it could be done. Simple simple work because fear is a big big guy. And he's bro. He got up to like four hundred three hundred and some change barley. He he showed us the truth. He showed us weight. Loss is all mental all men's because now now they're trying to look like aj mental warfare. I'm losing weight. It is a mental wolford. Because you get yourself up. You know what i'm saying when you feel a little creaky from maybe walk in the next day before running today before you gotta get on to get into it It's tough man. It's tough the fighting yourself. Like should i do. It should not is probably a better idea for me. Laid are here or you know what i'm saying is is green more. Make myself feel good because i feel bad. I think that's more for guys like you. And i that regular. But when you talking about a fury he he he looking at a while to twenty five million dollar check man. I'll get out the bed anytime you need me to get out. You know me and and granted already. i know grants. He's already but she might not have that same enthusiasm but it's going to be the same like me and you mean you gotta get out of bed and then come back and do eight hours. He got to get out of bed and go to work. That is his word. You know work is his job so it's a little different so wouldn't marvin hagler made the statement said it's hard to jump out of bed when you you know what. I'm saying either insect pajamas or sleepiness so sheets that kind of accounts for the same thing. Right that's twenty. That's him speaking of that twenty five. Because he was a million dollar fighter and he understood that it was tough regardless of how much money you make making to get out of bed. If you mind said no. I mean yeah. I look comfortable warm. You know things feel all right now. Listen sometimes you've got to put yourself in an uncomfortable environment. Sometimes you gotta get away from everybody. We know rocky did it. You know what i'm saying. He went to russia. He can't be around here man. I went soft. He went to russia. Did it did it did it. The rue gritty way he took on the giant. So we've got this big. Some people need. They super tat. Won't choke silence making his haters. Lose their minds. hashtag time louisville slugger. Good morning guy lethal three times champ. Check fury's last instance story. He's in a uk not we just showed you the last story. Showcasing two thousand five great interview yesterday. I hope fury versus wilder three really happening. I mean look people in chat. That are saying that that that that that fury could be broken up for. Aj there are some reports from what i seen. It was two websites that we don't normally Take information from so. We haven't done the report but there are some low level reports suggesting that fury wild. I'm not going to call them. Low level. I just don't do 'em websites you know what i'm saying. I don't remember what says that's not to say. Those writers on those websites. Don't have contacts. Don't have sources can't get the job done. I just don't quote mma websites. Because i don't even know those writers in an. I mean at least the writers that i call out physically no them. I've met them. You know what i'm saying like. I don't know these. Mma writers so i'm not reporting on aj fury because we did that week. And you know all of a sudden. Johnny nelson adam smith. You know david. Hey like all these. Uk dude start coming out of fear we might as well fight on. Or he's gonna pay him or you know furious in a legal battle so the truth is is is starting to rise more to the top. So i'm going to believe it's not for a but if it is does it make sense if it is for. Aj doesn't make sense for him to equally as bulky or defined muscular. -ly tell me i lost all that shit about the flip was on youtube. Sorry we are talking. It's crazy. I was gonna hit the the super chat real creek from s moon yours He made a good point here. He also fury bulking up now for what china. Ko wilder the legal way glamorised. The second fight neither gonna happen. Fury's dad won't predict the ko this time or at least won't be right about it. He was predicted. Yeah he was so confident that i would love while the comeback and knock him out because it's like louisville sluggers been saying for what six months now if that trilogy ends. In wilder winning the four fight would be something unheard of in this division. Like we've never heard of a four fight around. Why did you freeze do me. I was gonna say before you go to that super chat people. How many members we need to unlock some emojis. Because right now we gotta be like shift emojis like. Oh we're talking about tyson the soda tyson. fury jo. we talking about wilde. It'll start away like we need more members so that all the emojis are accessible right. Yeah there's a certain amount you know that that that they have to join in order for us to You know have another emoji added to our repertoire here. So we're seventeen members Away man from getting that fourteenth emoji and You know only you. The people can make it happen man and You know unfortunately it's forest fires. Smoking a barrel here. We can't give you all the ones that we want. Unless they're unlocked so again. The power is in the people so she guys are interested. You know we have three tiers on their on the membership program in a pick. Whatever suits you best in You know we appreciate the support and know take advantage of the park man in the and the different You know things that each year has to offer so take a look at it and hit the join button and don't forget if you're a patriot. Take advantage of dropping a question for dionne. The equalizer nicholson he scheduled to come on right now. Just sent me his skype. Id difficulty yeah. Yeah yeah yeah. He must've forgot he had a he. Let y'all gonna make scam. I must forgot shot up towards jones. Junior man big time. Big time talking boxing. Sorry that as soon as he said he came to my mind. Say roy jones shooting. So you want me to hit them with the ignorance boxing. let's go. how come nobody ever talks about. What adjustments wilder has to make fans are assuming he's going to land the right hand just like he did in the rematch. Yeah now while they gotta make a lot of adjustments men and we we. We hope that. I definitely just talked about talked about. You know someone needs to tell him. Teach them how to clinch how to break the clinch how to work inside that clinch. Not just let this guy lay on. But we've got dion the equalizer. Nicholson what's going on my friend. How are you. How are you was mci every good man. Good to see you. So let's jump right into it. You just got one in What like two weeks ago a week ago. Yeah about a week ago. tell us about that fight How how'd you put that together. During this pandemic i know right now is difficult for fighters. The gift fights so. I'm sure you appreciate to get in the ring kind of take some of the rostov. Talk a little bit about you. Know getting that fight in between your last outing on. Pbc where you Defeated earl newman. Junior is been hard man with the pandemic on all agai helped us out to get on a. I was on a on a bad note on car and not put boxing on it so no it was just a blessing to be able to get on some car. You know it's hard definitely. I mean i think. I like to look at things like the optimistic way. And i guess that's that's an opportunity for you to pick up some mixed comback sports fans right because you fall in front of an ma or bare knuckle type of crowd. Did you feel any of that. Where people acting and take pictures and stuff like that. How was the fandom you know when you were in the ring a mandate lovely man on it was a it was a little different. You know finding all no circle a ring you know but the fans they you know they they loved it you know i tell you know they little box. I'm excited fighter. You know people see knockouts wile any any nervousness stepping into the ring like before you got. Did you test the ring. Because it's a circle you used to a square. I didn't then tested man the ring out but you know it's is a fight man you know i'm going to fight so you're not come from different background we used to. I used to be one of the guys. I was in prison. Mail fighting a guy behind me locked in a small room. I'm just saying because this. May you never know if that matt was a little a little more thicker. Maybe spongy us so when you got it felt like it. Felt like a boxer. Boxing ring is it not to get on no ropes. And now like that. So let me ask you. What what. Why wouldn't put you on any of these calls. They've been having some cards. Who has such a good performance. It was definitely a fan friendly television fight you gave both of you guys gave you know the tv networks. What they wanted it. Why wouldn't they because they had some bubble fights. Why can you get on any of these cards. No man maybe. Like i know my team you know working on a lot of things so you know a lot of time man. Is you know yet to look at contracts and things of that nature Sent to me. But it just didn't make sense nominee money wise and and you know everything gotta make sense because you know when i come to come to fight. Know it's gonna be a lot of people tuning in lot of fans that tune in my flight. So you gotta make sense. It can't just be no no once gotta make sense to make sense. I know you're campaign in For the fight with the current. Wbz heavy heavyweight champion maccabi. He's the brother coed fight man. I really. I really want that fight. Now what is it about. I mean he's very experienced. I want i want any. I won't end on world champion. I wanna fight in the world. Titles in a world tired of this it's not specifically him specifically but anybody got a a world title. Have you have you. Have you watched maccabi fight. He's he's yeah. I watch them fight. It's up to a month but you know i. I know that i know that. Ibm i know. I beat anybody in cruiserweight division. Why do you feel that way. 'cause me man you know It was a lot of announce a question that i also you know cannot go to disney Can i fight a towel ago. Bigger guy you know saying out of acid auto question. And i have the rip you know. Fourteen thirteen knockouts. Now don't think there's levels like obviously earl newman was a great win. I know him personally. I know his trainer. You know we knew the pedigree but mackel boo is up there. Four minute like he's been on that level a minute. That doesn't that doesn't matter when you look when i look at a lot of the guys on resume l. They resume look like my own lesko. Champ you fill me these guys find the guys. I really final body. You know what i mean. These guys find punching bags. You know when you look at most of these. Are you know Sense thank you. So i thank you so on useful and there was another guy in a kruse way to vision brought onto guys morale though trying to do some but none of these guys like unified. Nobody's guys are doing none you know. And i'm looking forward to winning the world title. I can unify the. I can make big fights in and actually be you know a undisputed world champion. But before i pass you the francis. I know you're trying to get in. But i you got me a little confused i remember. I guess it's been two years now. Maybe you just can't do it at that on the drought wait. Don't wait but they they ranked number six on a thing. I'm seven now. Ranked number seven four on world title for world south through the wba. Okay title and Out trying to make the fight with shot out number seven dion. Nicholson go trying to make With seminar good fight fire destroying hell brazen he old already. He used to be a light heavyweight. He lost a banana. Yeah i remember that fight but he a muslim crews ways. I look at these crews what they still dane athletic man they more. There's walked for it and take quenches us a little short for that division. How melissa man. I just gotta was west six three Two hundred and fifteen pounds Fight night my weight in one hundred ninety pounds. And i walked him down but i so let's take numerous like he's like six three. Maybe even six four okay. He's he's probably not even heavier than ucla. Uc was a cruiserweight book moves better than him and uses. his height will better than him. I don't. I don't like when i look at the division man. I don't look at guys. How other guy look at other guy look at weight and things of that nature. I never look at it. You know what. I mean That doesn't matter when when you're real fighter when you know how to use a distant when you know how to use a job you see how my job is and is mola like you said and i. It's another level of that. That i have not yet to even tap in and it takes it gonna take for me to fight people like these champions and he's been division to to bring out the best of me because there's a lot of things that people haven't even seen. I'm telling costa jump in but if they don't listen i'm mad about ali. Have they offered you that. Fight from a man who. He's the john pascal beat. He was undefeated then. Pascal beata maybe two three years ago. I never heard of okay. He's a. pbc fighter moved up to cruiserweight. he's only ranked six right above you and he fights with pbc. I never heard of I wonder if Already cracked within about francis francis richard reporters with eddie right dillion promotion but later work coincided with any earned to get through sky sports. Yes richard richard rack for is at three in the wnba. 'cause you set. Us seven so there's some people are allowed to fight any anybody. Ed in in top ten anybody it especially world title like this is my time man in a in a world. titles now What are you doing the meantime. Obviously you stood busy by getting this fight last week. Have you and your team. Jim but have you on your team already. Decided to like start looking at this time. We already had talked. Mass time you know is just a matter of noti where champions promoted to to you know to to content agreement in income software solution. Spare you know. How long do you wait before you just go ahead and get another fight to to continue to stay active already. Already fight now. I'm going to say right now. But i'm gonna say so now join in right now right now probably on ninety six ninety six and you cut down you come down a little more after that a naturally cut down man. You know when. I'm when i'm in no is screaming my wages come knock. Can't keep their way on me like that. When i train the way i try him. Because we are trying. You know what you weather like out there now. Isn't it cold and alabama yet kind of it. Kind of code on here is it may get any more difficult to get that. Working on terms of excuse me in terms of roadwork. No hell no man. I ran into coleman. Good to run into. I ran into. I'm used to that when i was up there with the locking. The mouse was up there in the code known. I'm used to this. Oh so box caz you scheduled for certain in january man. Would you not telling us now. That if i i don't i was supposed to donate car. I'll speidel net car on before. I thought on this car. Owners get on my bus idiom kukushkin. Mrs frances from trauma. Canada had just wanted to know. Just a few questions. When you're running right or you prepare for fight What what gets you motivated. What gets you either hyped up or calm down based on like you realize ourselves. motivated but You know my scrotum add always has been competitive person growing up. You know always been away since. I was a kid you know. And there's just something now that i have no i'm just a natural person. Did no i challenge myself in. Nobody got gotta wake me up until meeting go jogging. Get their work in. Like i do myself all right it. Just a natural for me. Natural tie-in what type of music do you listen to when you run in I like to listen to too far. Okay yeah i'm on their part man straight party. Mix it up with slow music. I like it. Depends on how philip give. Kevin gates does a lot of musoma. I love it. But i like i like i love old school musical and deal. Listen say music on. Fight night that you listen to when you run in. Yeah okay always fuck you ever been any Any specific song that you gotta play before. Like if you have one pox on that you can play as you gotta pick. You have one that you can go to like that. I gotta hit ambition of varada. Okay run love it. Thank you sir does the I mean you said you fought in a circular ring right with with a with a promotion. Boxing anime were bare knuckle fighting bare bare knuckle. Boxing also on the. How did you how did see that. Play out. and as far as like The the ambiance in there in in the arena was it was there. Was there like tension between the boxing guys and emmy guys. You know the usual funny stuff that you that you sometimes here. I was actually cool. Man guys they they were cool guys. No noise no different. Anybody anybody asks you a you you ever thought about going into fighting. Now you're like that and you'd how how. What was the outcome of your fight. Not about the light zone second damn first round. Wow so coming up. who did you emulate your style. After would you emulate your style after covering labor fighter who who embarks influence you Like style wise. Would you say fighters like different people. That i was like Under war mike tyson. Ma all time favorite okay Mohammed ali bernard hawking's I got a lot of no fires. The i love. I love it. So that would be so. Mike tyson and andre vida drive for like cutting us. They'll sit into your game right now. Yeah i watch him. Okay awesome after that. Url newman fight man Did you get any calls from any promoters. Anybody else telling you. Maybe they wanted you to fight somebody or anything like that. 'cause i was i was impressed. Men jd's jaydee no he. He warned to you. Know deal with type stuff. My advisor so If the fight makes sense and whatever they people trying to make make fights because he'd been a few names mentioned to me but like a lot of time with jay one name fans ain't near complete or don't make sense you don't even present it to him but what maze been mentioned. I wanna head how. I wanna hear what names have been mentioned as see how interested in those got twelve notes will knock out on down. Thank you got the wbz national builder. Some off got his name. Could he got the overseas only knows the name got you get a cruiserweight. Been like that for a while. Now what to that guy So what does he from boston. Maybe popeye he was supposed to do also in ways they not gonna fight. Nobody like they're going to keep on fighting tomato cans so we make people look at box. It you know and brag about a number two out of been on the to own boss right like kill damn be world champion. Main tryono brag rice on the you know really be a world champion be known for real for real so really you know. Just cloud shit Well we got some questions from the people i got. I got him up at home and just start him up. You got my man from florida. Keam and He wants to know. Thanks for your time today and good luck with your career. My only question is why did you put the pause on this. Like that inspired anchor man. They don't even know it was actually nice to me. Man getting gonna hurt newsman. Exit was coming in from ruined. The five or four says a any word of who the next opponent might be I is is is something that there was presented. And i love it and i prayed it happened in but i don't really talk about it right now but if you happen this is gonna be something be because on the guy that gotta they mentioned in this stuff they you know. A lot of people scared to fight him our love for him. But i'm not gonna. I'm not gonna really speak on nine. T antilles and today say. Hey this is going to happen avenue who it is utah door. Tito's loaded fight door to door toco a knockdown to beatty people. Afraid like that. He houses right. You just lost the beatrice. Yeah you just lost. Be interested in the world Box for the Mohammed ali trophy. Oslo titled tuesday. Ibm if i'm mistaken man. I'd love to see that fight. Both laws don't those type those type of the that i wanna. That happened for me. A question you seem to be. Will you know what i'm saying to beat is known as a puncher as well to What did you take from that fight. Like you know what i mean it was. It was an exchange when he got caught. I can't i can't no. I can't Based based me off there because you my thoughts yeah. I thank to beat is awesome box. That he's a good fighter. I just thank the News trying to be too defensive and And hodan and he didn't look like he sean. Fight all k- that's thank you that's get hit. You know what i'm mean is sometimes sometimes you got you gotta you gotta figure things out. What's your thoughts on Lawrence a coli. Then fight over the weekend. Yes you only watch the honest world title shot you supposed to get it this time around. But his opponent got kovic so it. It got harder with with defies. Man he trained and prepare your opponent code. So it's been kinda you know on in basra. Let me ask you about the gym. Like normally you guys have a hard time keeping it cool so now we got. We got heaters into jona. Oh so it's cold anything. And they on blocked out one-sided. Jim is oftentimes right now. What's i would wait. Wait what a waste. Okay it get out enough. Yeah you guys always got nine huge blow torch go landscape g your sideways. I was so we get the whole you get shoulders in. Make sure they know you shake right now on sir big one. They got another one coming in from big casual real quick. He says what up chant. When do you think you'll be in position for a title shot. And would you take lawrence coli fight right now and roll tide chance roll tide would go to go to some. Let me find him for the for the wto scrap this they roll tide championship for alabama. Looking sweet this year yes sir. Title and We got the next coming in from lids low. He says what's happening boxing warrior. I never saw you fight. But best believe i'll be checking you out a love the attitude i like all i wanna say's keep being you and don't change when you become champion unified champion and undisputed cruiserweight champion. Give them how l. Must've thank you man and you know always been a horrible person in on not naturally men man. I'm looking for the dan world champion. And thank you for tuning in another one. Coming in from coach myers in connecticut. It says good morning chant. You've been in multiple camps where wild they're being from the same city and state said. How would you describe the difference in trainers between mark. Breeland and j. d. s. What are their strengths. What other grants. Hell i really. I haven't trained Neither when i go to the accounts in our whites you know. I think i think both know. Jd's an original home. Great china's so i I don't know if i hit the refresh of while i hit the refresh. The real quick means. I'm going to ask him a question if you don't mind dion i personally think that the uk can Can't kim does a lot of fighters in uk decrease way division. Who you know what. I'm saying you can go over there and pick golf to kind of build the ranking up in other the what's your take on fighting in the u. Caved opportunity presents itself. Oh right now like right now. Working on getting a partner you know I'm a convicted felon. You know before. I before box. I was in prison so norrland on working on working on. How john are. You not allowed to get a A work visa to get into that country. Y- your work. Yeah man. I mean you. You don't really anything but a passport to get into the uk. Unless unless you is you know. I'll know some others because you got to say jackets so i got to the uk without a fucking problem. You know it's it's kind of the weekend. Get to where they want an expunge. Give us all that stuff. But i think i would like seventeen years old man. You official road brisbane. Seventeen you get that out of there now you already five seven years past that not never been wander onto dortch. Get that expunge. Good because you can go get that pound man that money over there if you go. Give him helena. You can yell. Mach one of our longtime listener said nez. Don't send them to the uk going rob him over there. He hates the uk. That's the dang order. There's more questions do you now. The uk show man. You see this bad away from Carlito's eighty four. He said was good. Champ do you. You would have more of a chance at a shot if you were signed up to all the sanctioning bodies is the expense of signing up issue owning not at work there so you just let j. d.'s. Them do business. The pro wanna fight all right so the next coming in from wayne james and he says what are your thoughts on the bridge away. Are you interested graduate to my the the new wait when ninety nine the new heavyweight new anyway to all good they already did. It is done. it is done those guys well. No i just think that relocate the weight. The weight thing because you look at their life is light rocky marciano guys guys like hundred eighty five pounds fine. If you guys know saying just you know if they was going to break a brand new business. I would think that they were brand new. Light cruiserweight division. Because you got guys ask find one seven six two two hundred pounds. That's a big. That's a that's something. Yeah i was. I'm so so happy. You just said that. Because that was one of my questions. And i forgot right so i want you to give us a little history on a cruise division because there was a argument amongst our border wars chat that crews away is either like one ninety to one ninety nine. But if you won seventy six yuka fight. Do the ways in one thousand nine right. yes yes as you. The cruiserweight champ. And you weigh one seventy six. You still got to defend your bell. Like if i'm the champ right but i won the titles at one ninety nine but me and my trainer believe one day we could fight us seventy five so we've been working to get down but we still one seventy six with the titles and you wanna fight me and you cannot put you in a catch way. Because i'm the chair or or is it unfair to you and and and you get away one ninety nine and i got away one seventy six. I would think we had the way when you'd have you think that your opponent coming in to nine wants then there's only so only cannella putting the dude in a catchweight at cruiserweight i they. You know dealing with contracts and stuff it depend on what what they put a new contract so no got power man sneaking mellow man. What do you think about him in that. Dude artur better be of who beat alexander. All thank thank. He'll be better be thank you. I think you'll beat them but they can know. You can nullify all to meet zander. Like guys don't want to fight that guy like do that. Do really the boogeyman. I know he came up. While did you get to see them in amateurs. No i ain't get assume announce watching this is a man. Tate's i heard a lot of bio man like guys bene- cello still like our relentless rough like do he'll he'll boxer boxer-puncher they a lot of those guys. I love you. Don't find him they. There's there's rumors that he's gonna get a shot. Possibly billy joe saunders got pops theros as spraying. Uk is is It's it's how that whatever was in. That nasal spray is allowed in the uk up until the day of competition. So he tried to fight in america the providence commission. I believe right it. But i just no no you reebok's it's definitely got more questions right right. Absolutely man We got another one. Came in from jeff in nova scotia. He says i believe the best. Cruiserweight is twelve. oh and twelve. Cao's ryan zinke down the guy that's the guy we fight show. This burst of away canadian. So yeah i fight with that guy. Right actually hit ryan. I got you in fact. He twelve knockout. I'm ahead and right. Now let's get this going on for a fourteen chant. Y you ain't give you the fight. You say you supposed to fight ben. Some fell apart. But that's the nine that they open like a this. I get either they intake fight or or i'll know listen jeff is one of our. I wanna fight you know. Listen jeff is one of our listeners. He put us on brian. He access to interview and we got him on the show. I watch t he got that hardcore man. You could come around aside with the loopy shots on a man day. One thing i know you. When i beat the body when i beat up there by down you gotta worry about know-how gar. Oh jeff game on the line. Jeff tell them let's go. Let's get. I'm getting into so we get to places. Try to get this because Right moment so. I'd love to see that this canadian. There's no sign that you. I see what you do and what not but you know man is the baby you you gotta respect it though because you look at. Hey you should represent. But i'm gonna tell you this. He he he not going to be able to stand up to me and i love it man. I love it i love it. This is what boxing is all about man like the you know what i'm saying the dues who who can fight fight each other good dead. You know what i'm saying. Best friend the best resume rankings. Monier because he you wanna world world title chasing sosie. So that's that's good man. That's good and i would love to fight now even better food for vacant title of no. That's probably what happened. They probably wanted that in canada bra. And that's probably why fell apart. Can't get in unless you get them over here to the. Us you come us star. You know this is true to the. Us you're going to be a real star. I don't know we got a superstar from 'em easy in biak says what are your thoughts on. Fa oppo cheesy. He's the brother of faa java. Train by running shoes the cruiserweight. He i think he's eighty eight cao's now i'll really know the know too much of him all. I think i see him fight. The newman fight this by on fighter. You watch that. I watched He got pretty long reach long or no no. I don't know okay and nfl. he's long. Yeah no that's that's why. I think that helps you out a lot with these. Talk is bro. she you'd be popping knows with that. We don't hit a month a our no secret. Y'all know cpr was i. Give credit to earl norman. Because he's a good fighter right. Yeah i didn't even house burns to prepare for their fight ain't nobody no because i didn't even know if i was going to happen wasn't going so he wasn't going to jacobs's always people damn stubborn hard for me. At that time it was hard against bar. So and i and they're just so you know what type of warrior. I am not took that fight so let me actually. You don't spa He's too big for you. Roberta robber alonzo around mayor robert lease bar but we just bought it for that hillsborough whole lot so nobody big for me Like i like sparring headways. How does that help though. Is it better to have the people the height of the guy. You're gonna fight or does it out. If i had the rice bar but on numerous i honestly. I salute no missile. But i i think the fight would've turned out different Do me i'm t-. I'm being told his questions. Oh yeah there's more you got another one coming. In from ken he says. What's up chant. would you ever consider contend. Ib be the heavyweight division and is so angry headway. And if so what do you think about frank sanchez. Fight for your debut car but you gotta have the zone or owner low him and they want you a heavyweight already heavily weight. I go to the next one. Salvador asensio says greetings from athens. What do you have on your pound for. Pound is one through three. what Number one hour have to say to know say nello number two are at say on tennis crawford were and number three man. I'll know man. Because i is like terrence cross in in aerospace like those it between guys and number two i c leedle leedle took it out. Yeah you don't wanna to guys. I think like that. That's why i think they should fight each other. Got be casual came through. He said wilder versus fury three. What's the outcome well. Out of versus fear throughout the thank. Take on going to beat the shit out of him. Write it down. I think i think that it would just a lot of snow surrounding that fight in. And and you know that. I can't speak on because i don't really know you know me so. I don't know i can't really speak on but i i think that feared cheated. I mean it just and you know i. i just think they're I know the boxing word on one Really promote because it lose fans or samba is something definitely with ronald glove ship or songs. Psalms off so you know. I'll tell you that fight. He gonna go see the herta he while hurts them. This next fight. Did you see earn. Did you see the thumbnail to the today. Did you see the thumbnail to the To the show today with the picture of tyson. Fury looking real bulky. He's an he's in miami and got her. he's looks like he's put on some muscle this time. It don't matter. Those are all the questions and ryan a answer. But what are we going to do. Is we set that up properly. See if he's down and then it gets you guys both on at the same time. We can't promote that But Man i wanna thank you. I was taking the time to come on his show and You know running you little victory lap after getting a ko letting us know what's next We're going to go ahead and pray which you and hope that that big fight happens for you. Yeah a quick before you before you get was one more question. I wanted to ask you You said earlier that when you're training when you start to run the way kind of comes off easy Does that mean that you don't necessarily hold to a strict are aided regiment or you. Just you can eat. Whatever you like. I eat i can. I can eat healthy. You know what i'm saying does some naturally i do. I know you're around and shit like that. Drink sodas and shit so no no. You can't a man. i think. I think we're going to meet me just from from like from as nine hour up until i had with the prison. I had never been out on the street for a whole year. Man like i always have been locked up in for finding and told guns in. Just doing our type roof michigan. When our y'all so i think like that. She taught me be so disciplined disciplining. We have all that scancen. You learned not to want it anymore. Yeah i there's definitely a vice for me. I got i got to have a little snickers so so so before can't write and before can't eat. Is there anything after camp that you don't have during cam. Did you can wait to have when you get out. The ring is something that you've got to have working pre super senior. Everyone says pizza type of pizza. Man i like that That that coalition talking peace man on the got a mellow mushroom cardholders to talk. This is good. I ho- boxer this year. Love it love it. Sake dion Let's say you become world champion. Do you stay in alabama or do you have like dream location. Like when i get rich me and my family or you never you just you good wherever you at our be honest marijuana boston land and all and building a house and and and live like a form life where am i love it. I want to take my family to that my granddaddy the young land and you know he got and all types of ally disappearance like that. I like ryan for with us and shit like that. So could so you're rich. So you would say so would you stay in alabama and imbalan- ono man i don't i don't i don't know you know i love alabama but i other i would love to travel to you know so but i love alabama is your life from alabama. Your wife is from alabama. Yeah okay so yeah. Just chat chat chat saco come to texas florida. Got a lot of land. Chant florida got twisted up though. So you said your country boy you want you want and you want to form when you hear earl spence just finished be in danny garcia and they said. Do you wanna fight test crawford. And he's like. I'm gonna go ahead and go to my ranch and rise some horses because people try to act like irl ducking teheran's because he talked him hoses like i got guys that just call in and say well earl rather our horses than fight crawford. And it's like he. He wanted he wanted. That's like what he's gonna do. It's a to relax. yes. I mean does that should. That's what he learned to do. They take it out of context. Don't they own no amount i. I'll i love that fight all know. What the teams. Because ought to say. 'cause i don't know what the teams like. When those china was the over trying to defy. i don't know so there's a lot of contracts and said to that says that the fans don't get to see again it doesn't fight on make sense on paper like a you know. Put this stuff. The way china own you for certain amount of using the term of who you fight knicks and did it and so on so also a lot of things that the fans don't really you know don't know why the price price i'm being so ryan is available. We might get these jumping. Oh really goes ryan rosa keke turn on. Hey goes what's up cham- how yes sir driving. Yeah man you don't wanna give safe and pull over. I'm good. I'm pulled over now. See if you can turn your phone sideways. People get a hole. There you go chance so ryan man We're interview we're interviewing crews away here. dion nicholson. Who's telling us that he was offered to fight with you and he doesn't know why it didn't happen. Can you fill us in any details. I never heard that name before. So diani says he's never heard if people all know he talked to his people from america alabama out of the wilder jim. He's his manager is j d's that's the same manager is Advisor as the weldon. Fuck by an opportunity like that. I'd take that fight in a heartbeat. I was never offered a fight like that to you. So ryan let me ask you. Are you available to come to america or are you strictly can canadian fighter for right. Wow with the cope with cobra dawn on right now. I don't know what the what the rules are but other than that. I'm ready wanna fight. I wanna i wanna fight in folks come into a miracle. I'm gonna tell that will be there. I'm gonna today. So let's get this right together. Man this is a great coming out party for you. You said it's an opportunity. Just his name alone. he's fought on. Abc live on television. You know he's got a good solid win on under his resume. Early junior common opponent where faa pucci. Who's not man. We don't have no headphones. The feedback but yemen. If you never heard of him. I guess there's not much that we can say other than. How can we get this fight together. The both of you need a fight. He just came off of a fight but domestically. So this is what i'm saying terry people hit. Jd's and it will be can be easy me ryan. All you gotta do is have your people. They don't have his. Jd's contact have. Jeff hit me. And i and. I hope you guys get in contact with them. Consider don't i didn't. I didn't know about this. If i if i would've known about this. I would have signed the contract long ago go. I never heard anything about this. So i'm not one to look to Dodge fights. I got no. I got no interest in keeping an undefeated record. I wanna say guys like this in this for dingren. And that's what i that's what i love the battle of who got the most tattoos man you guys. Both tattered up so so ryan tell the people how tall you are because dion. Nash seems to believe that because his nickname is the equalizer height doesn't matter how tall are you. How would this matchup look. What's your height. So i can just match up to his around six to sixty four and a half all right your last opponent. Well you're second to last opponent six three. Dr yeah earl earl three six three okay. So you have. Have you ever fought someone as short as the on your five. Ten right dion. Five eleven have for someone that that That short excuse me that height that height. I'm just saying short. Sorry i find an undefeated brushing from dagestan. He was five foot. Eleven he he He had a win over a guy from the states who was undefeated. But i'll nocco scott. Beat i'm trying to remember the the guy from the state's name at least you guys tough guys each other's have been in there with similar heights also. That makes it interesting. I don't i don't fight tall like ivy right in front of that so you'll be easy to find me now rate there. You'll be and i'll be right there to so ryan. Do you consider yourself a puncher. 'cause dion believes he's a puncher with fourteen wins and thirteen cao's on the biggest puncher in the cruiserweight division. And i say. I don't agree with that story on nobody. Nobody what makes you believe the biggest thing. Is they oughta and canadian. You come over here on a beach day. Might not you beat. Now knock you the fuck out moment. So what makes you believe. You're the biggest puncher because the got guys like He never been punished. You can look at it facing to bust on I've seen this fights been. You ain't nobody. I in my life. You know what i'm saying. You never been. Plus my is my whole is reconstructive. You ain't never been plants. Like i'm i'm definitely a pretty yet. They're all saying you ain't never been with me. Is going to be rough reagan. So where's the our you. Add on backtrack. What number you on boxer. Oh you fifty dion nicholson. Oh there's a good fight for you because ryan is Ryan is ranked thirty three on box. Way they'll know saying was right. I think i was like thirty three before you know i have two year. Layoff our thirty to thirty one. Ryan any sanctioning body you ranked in yeah fifteen with wbz okay and is number seven with the wnba so this this makes you understood. This makes sense for the bow for you. Man makes sense. Let's let's not. let's not waste too much time. Don't wanna thank you both obviously for allowing this to happen we want. We want hope that it does for the each of you. Like i said man anything i can do to get it done. Let me know dion. Give out your social media ryan. You do the same one after y'all follow me on the equalizer on the ground facebook. Follow me just ryan rookie. There is a sculpture press conference. Listen to happen organically. We were interviewing dion like we. We're interviewing you. And he mentioned the name that fell apart and we like wait. We kinda adam on the show. I i was trying to call you back. Yes if you had any details but you never heard of them but we're gonna get this done. We're gonna see what we can do once again. Thanks to both of you there you have it ladies and gents. Diana nicholson and ryan rosetti right. That's a guy that see you guys later all right there. You have it guys. Let's talk some boxing now Yeah that was interesting. what up jets. That was interesting. Shot out the jeff nova scotia and ryan on That was exciting. Let me souprayen right now. All that's needed is for them to contact each other now. The thing is Where what network picks it up so i. It's it's bigger than just those two fighters wanting the fight and that's what people need to understand. Like they want it. That's the first part they've agreed. But now it's a matter of networks and which one is going to you know. Want this fight is ryan. You know going to be a fighter. That that that showtime or fox or fox network. Maybe they could do this on fox sports network. Oh that ring. Ring wildcard boxing in over there. Maybe they can do that. They're you know you know something like that whole. I mean if it's a if it's a fight. I think you've got to happen here in the states man. No of course. But i mean television series the ring the ring fighting. What's that called really. Bring city pfizer wildcard rings. Your wildcard box. The one that happens in a wildcard about so so that that's a good. That's a good location for something like this. You know Because we don't want location to be the sticking point we understand that dion Possibly can't get to the sa- canada now I know for fat. He could get a work. Visa issue is does he get approved for the working visa. You know but you could get a work visa for the day or the week To get into canada. Yeah i mean even a record that being said we're gonna go out to the phone lines. We were talking enticed cantieri. Go for just wanted to pick up some of these supercharge. The had you know exactly where we act. Because i could go back to the beginning. Where yeah you know. What i'd do i take picks. Let me let me let me bring you up to speed. Then you jump in because there's a quite a few. Yeah they're they're they're all from victor and the in the building i got more if i missed one mooney mooney else. Yeah we actually said that one ignorant boxing. Yeah we got. We left off at victor the first one he said. He said 'em all i so victor li ru charlotte champion seeing that you became a member of the other day. So shoutout 'em i'll how you how you all sat down talking about the unthinkable while they're versus fury not happening joshua versus funeral. He said you know you gotta do reconstructive surgery on these fucking messages. What he means to say as i in all how you all sat down talking about the unthinkable while the fury is not happening joshua fury undisputed at day. Whatever victor letter does come back and he says dude sounds like he will get knocked out. By cody then marlins so icy sims comes says y'all see shirt yawkey get one to hit me up on social media at marlins so i see sims hashtag. Tv hashtag so icy. I'm about to get these miles in speaking. Speaking of pro boxes shutout to choi. Cain became a ringa yesterday. Word guillotine was more boxes. Did that man. I owe victor back out again. He back out gays it for him to call. J. d. as good trainer makes me suspect. This student will be a bum like wilder. But i might be wrong. He said he said it real hard. He said i might be wrong. He came back and said another one. You are buying steph curry cheated. Tyson knocks out while there again seven days a week two times on a sunday. Aj knocks while they're in round. Three man righty then. Let's it's happening around three phone lines phone lines long. Finally it wasn't do me to found. Was you know these calls are brought to you. By el camino services experts in electric vehicle charging stations for consultations and turnkey installation visit us at el camino electrical services dot com. Remember to raise five stars on. I tunes remember to writers five stars on i tunes subscribe to youtube dot com slash. The boxing voice for the latest and greatest interviews with favorite fighters announcement time announcement. Time don't forget to subscribe to the youtube channel. We're trying to get to one hundred and eighteen thousand. We need your help at one. 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All right. that being said don't forget to subscribe and help us with our goal of one hundred and eighteen thousand subscribers We're almost at one hundred seventeen thousand to fifty You can help with that. Let's go on out to these callers. we're gonna adrian ruin wisconsin. What's up the morning aging. What up was going on your high today. Another day man. Happy wanted another podcast man. I think some of the pictures. He put up a theory man if the weight room. He's starting he's starting to look a little dangerous in their man while i hope training hard because i want to see him his ass out so that work and fixing the things that he needs to fix the fury's looking looking kind of lean and kind of mean now beyond that man i i must stay to say about anything Just been training in back to doing what. I do Yes you'll have a good man. Thanks right in my day up with the podcast adrian. Thank you going out to brandon in cincinnati. Oh now that i would see. Brandini reminds me to remind you that We need you to go ahead and put short nominations in for boorda wars awards. Border wards border wars awards. Say that fast five times do me idea. Now he's talking to somebody. This dog is made out the windows neighbor. What's up by faz. you francis. I betcha he can't say wars awards awards one right damn do me say if that's what i say. Boy wars awards. What do you want to say a word. Puerto awards awards poor. Yes a twist of the border force awards. We got categories for trainer of the year. So get input. Your nominee categories for most improved fighter for wars model fighter of the year for bhutto's around knock of the west. But what always upset at us newcomer the was and then we also have for our podcast end of the year award. So we're accident for your nominations on categories categories. What does that mean meaning. Which categories should we do. You know So brand reminded me of all this because he put in. Tb be the best caller intro category. Who has the best intro. So if you haven't already dropped your suggestion for specific categories for the end of the year awards for the show do so patron dot com slash vitamin voice. And also i drop your nomination for the border wars awards for this which we are giving those out march thirteen on season ten the ten th anniversary of border wars. How fast we have grown. We're going to that yup zone to play you bring in line with. Hey how are you kidding. Me going all good brother and i thought i had this color. Come down to me and machine-gun tamoxifen renting the game last minute of on those kinds of what the people are saying. But the cars topic. And i guess outta science. 'cause we talk about love and all these gay conspiracies which nobody colleagues any to make periods in the lab working. Man he is. He ain't around has it'd be honest. He's gotta tip showed that he's in college cheater about a his team so he's going to be looking to fuss loud rock so a lot of bullshit and making them magilton going sweet so hopefully. That's my calm period. good heels. Is he planning around so getting together. Brummel coach myers connecticut. Good morning. good morning sir. What's up a much Good interview you know what i mean they do villainous up a little bit First of all the popeye automated eighth cruiserweight From hartford connecticut for my area. I know he said he was ducking number. Something like that. I was trying to get up on the line. He was funding too late. Let me tell you saw from coach. Milan-sam ago man and told them the minute you get a skype. I'll get you on the show Set up a skype and let's run a test call like i never did this before. But he's just very busy so if you can help us i would love to interview them and just find out more about them. You know. I just got put away because that was a possible fifa dion because we know dionne we found out about him. But you know. Here's the bella. Listen i'll get them on. I'm not sure to be one hundred dollars off of you. Guys many of you guys know fighters in your local area. That's what we're here for. The voice of the people you know. No one is too big or too small. We interview them. All that's always been my motto. I just really stopped in st. You know what. I mean because it was one of the other. Either i'm gonna be a dude out interview interviewing fighters at the fight or i'm going to build my podcast so you know i can't really do both But i still want to interview and it doesn't matter how big how how famous you know we. We hit to give you a platform man. We had to give you a platform. We're going to be coming up with a with a fight. A package on patriot for the new year as well. Mantha for under promoted fighters. We're going to help you guys out man. There's a void and we want to fill it and we want to always be platform for those people. We're going out to izzy you. Show him. I talked over you but that was anytime i talk over. I'm usually giving mouse. Would you good. I'm i'm is e. Okay see what up morning good morning. Good morning Yeah cooler interview with the anna. Rosa came on and shot up. Jeff nova scotian. Gotta get some credit and i really follow and brandon. Is you might as well follow in like a killer comedian because you can say what he what needs to be said. That's he's color year. And that's all i got alright. Alright we going out to Underrated you know what i'm saying We got a we got an award for. What is it called karma the year right. Let me set this up properly right. So there's a category for new karma the year. Boxing fans math fickle man. So you know right away. The ran for the knockout. Everybody's like oh smoke. I'm jay scott chat then we got. We got eagle eagle eagle maniacs. Who's cameras office. Are we got egomaniac. Saudi right that that that nominate themselves understand what. I'm saying the word so then so then so then You know everyone forgets like what does it take to make a fighter. And why should you give someone the award for newcomer of the year. And you know. I i chose adrian ronan and now my nomination because i understand what he brings me brings possibly the i live. A venue for tb situation dj ball. Drinks chairs live ring. Outdoor indoor the my imagination is running crazy. So even i fell victim in this category to overlook and someone by shot out the coach myers. Man coach myers chose scheme. And when you read his reason. I just hope that he gets the votes right. So he says keen took out a host in his first fight and has the biggest buzz and was offered multiple title fight situation in only his second fight. After beating hosts mario in his is in his home state which makes him the hometown guy in a win puts them in the pound for pound conversation. Because the guy he's fighting is on the pound for pound list right. That's some low marchinko shit. The fact the fact that keen name ain't been dropped as much as smoke amount. Jay is crazy and then is this smoking. They had that spectacular finish. Yeah but then factor in the got fucking three knockdowns in one fight. In his first fight we finish. We glorify jordan for the one for the knockout. We glorify smoking. My j. tanaka glorifying put on clinics. I think he's coming from the mud from the mud right now. You know you right again from the mud though. Yeah but he was like an underdog he was not end up in a sense a- as far as promotion. You know what i'm saying. He was going up against the big. Promotional competition is a mastermind who mastermind. That's that's not as big as the host but it's pretty updated to supermax got cloud cloud because he was always a big boy with swag looking ringwald. You know the fact that he's a mastermind. He made him fit himself a fiction. Not only in on the show but internally right because he's in he's in all group chat so i get what you're saying but what i'm saying. Is they overlooking keen right like okay. Smoke them out. Jay got the knockout. That's it barely talks. He all on the camera. Keam not only key. Bring that that that that that that that language this nasa that that language vibe that bodyline was necessary to solidify. He touted up. Look we just had to fighters. Oh we had to fight a it out. It was like damn this fight about who got him. Beat on that. So it's like he touted as listen. Listen our main event is so big. You don't even understand y'all gonna realize it five hours from now you're going to be like damn. That was like our own version of maaco versus puerto rico. Even though you know take from what. Salvador el salvador saying so. He's a cousin but it don't matter we want we go right. The same sell it. Like is the mexican. Puerto rican rivalry man. But yeah man. I just want win the polls. Come out people to remember that. Remember that keen as a newcomer as a newcomer not only drew the champion to give them a voluntary shot but as a newcomer established hometown the chip and even fighting in his home. To let me ask me ask you a question. Do shit gotta go to challenge is back on the other side You gotta ride for j. doom for both. I wouldn't have to do this. But i gotta do. 'cause you write him for game so i gotta do for jay. My man smoking like listening we talking about had one fight okay both well one got a knockout one. One got three knockdowns in the fight right and at the same time. You gotta remember the champions on his his his journey to reach a certain goal and that happens to be independent of teammates in florida. So he's a Let me fight team. he's my size. You know what i'm saying is around my weight. I mean it is in his hometown. Why not do it but he wanted to fight you after one fight. That's the same thing like marvin given. You didn't want to give him the voluntary marvin gaye marvin gaye martha voluntary j. All his he only one fight. You say he needs to get another fight. No i'm monitoring to talk. You said he needs another fight but marvin marvin. The to bel- champ is giving kim after voluntary. How strong who you wanna say. The situation is work where it works in favour because it's in his home state and you know i mean. Marvin is not champion. Trying to move down to where we get all that we get a but you didn't give the voluntary so you can't. You can't have disparity when you you gotta keep it on the same level. How he got the voluntary. Pardon me he got the voluntary keen. Got it so but don't make me like right. You listen listen. we're not hitting no no no. You're not getting it. One champion right. Seen the value in the challenger and picked up the other champion. I got you the other champions. See no fucking value you you did. You let me tell you what you did in again. And we said this before basketball. There's no disrespect. He he ambitious did with me rail kendra. Maybe even marvin do. Do i mean no disrespect to to supermax in and mepham go but they just not on that level of can i. Can i tell you something. So you know why i feel like you and this is no disrespect to you. I feel like you ducking and hiding a little bit. Oh i'm gonna tell you how you sound you sound like deal moving the goalposts because mistaken doing hold. Our if i'm not mistaken if i'm not mistaken right after one fight supermax is a suit. Is is a mastermind. That's that's that's like that's like a cohort on the show. That's like boy. You work on him. Heart is in terms of getting him self aware and get himself down to and he and jake came and knocked out your boy and what you did. You said that wasn't good enough. What you mean. He got fighter tonight and he called you out. I remember when you sit in the same ring in dallas earlier. Houston who built what we wanted. Who ended up bill bill. Let's go wanted. That's why am bill saying he came up it okay cool. He came up and he stopped your boy right and what you do what you do because you play chess. You slid another on the way you say you'll take joke. Let's see if you can go through joe. Yoda for me now. I'm so they got more harder. You at this point right now. I'm so happy the our paths crossman is crazy. I never thought you would be here. One day my main nowhere. We go in and smoke the joining apart. I i'm not fifteen. Let's get the fuck out the go to my house in my living room in cha. Cha chop it up smoking relaxed and here we. Are you doing a marvelous job. And i'm not mad at you. Keep doing it. Because i want exactly what can. Oh god. i want the people to believe he's triple g go ahead. Go ahead man. Go ahead this levels. You could spin it. You could be beautiful. That words palese mesmerized them all mesmerized the mall but i can also bring bishop bishop another you give him bishop another out. You tell him that you know what i'm saying. You vacate before he got fired. Somebody else i mean. He's he doesn't understand. You gotta give him the situation. You got people that want us. You gotta blige come on listening. I'm i'm being favor. Don't see it right so for sony. He wanted it and it's like bra. I would destroy them. Let them let them get a shot. Right see where he's at and then he ranks his own self same thing for smoker mao. J. heated shown me nothing. He fought supermax. You know what i'm saying. Let them wet defeat man. This not no disrespect the not. Smoking is almost like the same thing. Just to eddie. Got more skills. No you then. I'll tell you come home and wait a minute information. Know i first of all Eddie got what that he does you. You jesus christ said doing what bread you had like. Some women just came into your room. It was like some noise. Yeah But yeah so. Eddie has six amateur fights chan. And and eddie you got you could see the sparring w- it with the man in question which is smoke amount j. You see how. Eddie did in that smart. So totally different. There's a real check this out. There's a reason the supermax has a plan to face. Eddie at one ninety a at this moment it's a very unattainable goal for both so it's also a way of not having that happen. Okay remember eddie again. Eddie arguably be dr congo. People feel that he won that fight. You know what i'm saying is levels though but let me ask you. I just want to go to kenya. Think you did a marvelous job and to keep doing that. Have the public. Let me one more thing. I remember when i seen smoke them out. Jay do when. I see smoke him out. And and and and eddie spart eddie. Hit j. would left hook. Yes but i seen j. touch eddie. Straight right and eddie went on the bicycle eddie. Weeks later admitted that he had headaches for two three days after being touch and he and the no j. didn't really touch him to hurt him. You just kind of touched. That makes me feel like you. You kind of like you know. let's i not. Let's go to keep like can keep doing If you got posts and stuff and you need access the patriots to build it up more keep doing it. I want i want. I want that same moment. I wanna get a tune-up less smoke them out j. Coming ring late triple year man. I want the people to believe. I'm gonna lose. That's what i want. So until they see right now keen. You got what i want man. I helped to get there. I'm always say that. But you got what i want. You get glory. You it's like. Yo- like coach myers a love. You for knowing bikes man coach myers said it man. This puts them on a pound for pound lists. He said conversation. I said lists because you know you know in real boxing. T beat loma. I wanted to you to be number one. I don't like that bullshit. You beat the number one they put your number five. So of marvin beats. I mean if if keane beads marvin and mama was well. Yeah number four. That's your spot and ma. You're super super chairs. Cinci cinci come troopers say. Are you saying crawford ducking lol. He duck and j. I have a video of him. Jay side-by-side he's looking at j. Do you like your j. pig man. But i get him. I'm telling you jay looking at him like he. Food i'm fling. You mean that's why. Duckie like i had a private conversation. He let your whiteness document. Like i don't know like i'm a novice. I don't even have as much experience at him. He duckie man he document. Don't duck me son as came to dream of document. Oh man i gotta be careful man. Gotta be careful boy young man. That'd be careful kim. You ready response. He got the name got day. Mac giving excellent instructions over there to keep keam dream you morning. Good morning. I jumped off for a second because i had a call. Get back on. Y'all talking me gonna be pound for pound if i win and all like what what. What did i miss. How did this get started bra. I software on that call like the only thing you mrs s. is the biggest com calling this a duck located where you know. Listen you know. But i listen. I agree with all the same. Obviously mass puerto reason take this fight. marvin man. This is a high risk fight right but it's a high reward you know 'cause it comes with a lot So so yeah. I definitely agree agree with audit i don. I don't think that's the ducking. Smoke amasi oh man. Question for you go nest nest okay me boys right me you boys and we'd go out real quick real quick fast down and and and somebody you know what i'm saying jumped in touch me up in and what you're gonna do instead is you're going to go get another boy. Say you find him instead and if he beat you that i'm gonna fight you. That's what he did shake him. And knock dawson supermax. And he said instead of. I'm with defend that now. He sent smoke morocco. Joel to get knocked out to. And then he's gonna step up he the you should make that case. That case should be more for bishop. 'cause took out mfoumou like the only headway would've w i mean fungal would've won that fight. He was supposed to get the fight. When s kind of like the perfect situation where where where the winner that fight is you know mando right. That's that's how that's how that was supposed to go so anyway. You can make that case for you. Say oh duck and that is as you said it. Hit bishop ace side. Stipulations standing. Listen this guy. A stipulations in the bag. He'll pull him out whenever he feels necessary as side right there because he going use. Every that's gonna use every attack cam. But i'm gonna be real man. I listen doll is hard to border wars. man. I don't give it. It ain't easy to also when you four know it might not sound like would i get it man. That shit ain't easy like like there's a lot that goes into the so so you know neces- just a i think using his eisai tactics just to get them through some things and then and then hopefully once he gets down here to florida man. We could see nez. Get back right because you look at some of them. Overboard awards videos man s was in shape the shape man so i gotta take some time to get back right. You ain't doing man. Y'all get a little time to get right but i know i'll get this on. He's like i want to save my friend. He's your man. Dumi overthrowing combos gm having slipping and we even as more than watching the videos man. Who's all closed door involves. Let's see y'all man. We all see next door. None but i do me working man. I tell you that that's what you can see. Make me to be the duck. Man's only gonna make the title sweeter the defense sweet menace. We need we we want. We want to remain on the path pan in no. Give me guys on enlists joey. We not joe. You're gonna have nowhere to hide. Go smoke him out but those smoke you out somewhere knockout supermax knock out joe and go smoke you out. We're gonna meet you might. Dr baby dr. joe gonna want the pound you read lists your backyard and dr man. You're gonna get that smoke uh-huh uh-huh lv slugger would up lv hell. He is legit. What need needed like video subscribed to pay on join You to members experienced that but Yeah man. I don't know the topic badges seeing a picture fury bokan up turf fight looking like is going down. He and miami now. Trae was sugarhill Anthony anthony durell man. I mean muscular. He looked like you say you've seen the picture. Do you think he looks different. Hey lola came from prisoners. Listen listen. I hope that if i happen in Looking like a whole as weapon right now and shit so good luck to whoever fight him. Nex looking like some problems. But that's all our guy shot majed super chance super champ from carlito's three times champion ness get from behind your human shield o bigger with you fighting. Let's go love emoji. Stop documented people. Know this man this to put polack because you do me about to step back in there and get pop in which you yeah. That's why let's go to at a time we don't want to overload a host. You fight in dumi fi in. I need to be working. We all we are working. Already told you on the border warsaw. I know you get and no you get. Don't you can still with mandy. Capital may fight. Somebody already told john. I am not fighting until my mandatory gets called my mandatory. Don't get caught in a reason for me to fight. I'm not. I'm not giving these. Nobody's shot they not making a name of me. See mauve and pick king because he worth it. You know what i'm saying. He bring the people you know but it's different man. Nobody is my mandatory. If your boy wins he'll put himself in position but that doesn't even make him the mandatory he'll need to be named as the mandatory challenger and then that would be given a date and a timeframe for us to negotiate a fight and if we can't come to terms then the sanctioning body stuff sending closer and then then then. If i lose the person that i can still just fucking vacate that title. Everyone knows. I don't want i do whatever i want. Because i'm gonna show you how to be a fighter on border was i'm gonna show you the way. The assad is supposed to treat boxing okay. I'm the big jaw. remember that chump. Four four no. Don't do me train other year. Like he ain't just successfully get title defense again. Where's your train at a year. Bell is what you need you. Only you don't only train a widow with four no fighter with a title. We the only team with three title defenses. These are hating us in the saw. Good show no disrespect. I'm not trying to come at you. It ain't for you to waste your call coming at me. But they i see more nominations for. You didn't do what you got one win with. Keenness it. let's not even feel. Like i thought i thought trainer the year they gave it to renault. So because fucking canelo beat column. I gave it to derrick because charlie unified they gave it to fucking derek because Earl unify not ages given trainer a year to dues for whatever and again. I'm not disrespecting. This is a shot. I'm just saying. I like people like no fucking boxin like now. You know what man i can't. Even i can't even say anything about about the nomination i would have liked nominated. Say a notable notable mentioned would have been nice. But i am. I don't care about that as far as as far as as far as you know being being in the limelight. And that what i can't appreciate though is j mac and his and his and his his he. He didn't have to give all this all these miles. You know meeting up with people may it. I think it's admirable we every time before it's called let the world nobody was doing because we value it. But that's one part of is just like when we are certified as he got a big following on social media but could he fight. Oh yeah he got a good left hook but do we gotta chin. Oh he got a chin but do we got so. You know what i'm saying. This boxes in this categories. And just you know. i'm biased. you my train. i'm biased so nominated you. Did you mention you know. But it would've. But i i love it man. I love the awards. I think that a lot of these guys did a lot in these events. You know i mean. We're talking about from fighters from coaching from judging so many positions to be played along this road and and now we're here to tell you no border. Wars axe down gone. Let's get it so You know every everything everybody's been doing man in order for this A series to grow for this to grow is much appreciated. Man i mean I think everybody's a champ out. They may have been a part of this it into a border war show but is he. Is he hit me with the ness. My grand pocket a trained to a winning that fight the disrespect to eddie is crazy crazy. Disrespect but again. They not looking at the fight right. They not looking at know. Do me taught me how to work my stick better. And how setting. Eddie up with the jab to the stomach jad to the stomach all of a sudden pump the to stomach turn it over to a a hoop boom drop them down. Give them credit. Yeah you know like they talk about. Round to eddie one do they. Watch the fight and give you credit for my charles fucking defense. The way i was there just parrying and blocking every it's all good to me me and you see what we're doing and we're gonna see them when they build up the next. Do take the fuck out. He's already they're mass buildup. he's already their man. He's already jay. His name is jade is his name is jay. Don't say nah. Don't don't let me let the you not smoke him. I got another fight in line. The right to me. You weren't listening because you deal with. What have you done which is cool. I'm i'm gonna do for you again. Because i like you got times field. I understand he been a duck and we'll be quick be duck because jay came and knocked out supermax soup max's beloved around here kind of like a host. You know what i'm saying. He's one of us as it brotherhood. You understand saying he on that level of clout and he called our nets. He said you're next. I want to smoke man. Came board awards. Fight you you told me. If i somebody else so i did. Okay cool you size them up. We went eat barbecue. He was looking at the house. Chilling is that necessarily big. But you know what i'm saying. I got him. I think. I got to speed on him. All of a sudden now is fighting him like chess. he threw another porn. Hiding you document. You gotta step over get now. You're gonna knock out your boy joan. what you're going. You got nowhere to hide. Check you in check now. What you gonna do He's he's he's he's a he's a wanna know fighter he he got. He got to give us another one like on. That's what i'm saying. So so so so keen one. No fighter got a voluntary shot at two titles. Cussing marlow cloud. That's what you don't get you one without a three cloud. Come on. it's because the situations lined up and shot. Kim notices snowslide situation it but it was in his backyard and marvin was on a journey. So everything the roads kind of crossed up mid up. It's not saying that but you those at different story you. My friend is a different story because he is the i remember board awards intact cornu. Who wanna like anyone who wanted route. You want it. Who wanted and nobody wanted it. But now you've got somebody screaming at the top of their lungs and they want to smoke. And what you do you take your belts you going home. Come up stop fronted man. I'm duck in predator song. Art bill should should. I read this statement again. Good statement. I prepared yesterday about mandatory situation. Should i read that your size. Depletion is go ahead If smoke him out j. Excuse me says Smoke them out. J. will be in position if he wins. But that doesn't make him the mandatory he will need to be named the mandatory challenger. And then i as the champion would be given a date and time timeframe to negotiate terms for fight with him. If we can't come to terms the sanctioning body steps in and cause for i did a lot can happen. Talk to you guys. March thirteen going to steve. Talk to me drop the michael chicago. I'll be like to go back whenever you can. He's a mute daddy. This adult beat still dot com. Now come into the light. Alvie slugger mute. What what what plane. Cliche the great show me. I've been off last two days Great show where interview man. Y'all listening now. You ain't get the chance for listener yesterday. Show you could go back and listen to detmer great show yesterday up. Mr round went sleep mining. No head early interview. Mashhad outweigh jones. Man i really enjoy. The end of the mouth open may be able to accomplish a charter. Do try out dion. You know shadow ryan to that little press comes your today. Hopefully we can get their flight schedule and again for the post to be on. Ask questions we do apologize. Oh yeah that's fine Interviews man good man like say last two days been on fire and a fury may look like he on that board meetings a holy hopefully get right that third flight man. It don't it don't matter what is still his ass up. You know what i'm saying. Where but water. We'll be two time champ in the trilogy. Biggest fight bucks man. Y'all states could it won't let you on the committee committee. You ain't gonna commanding years. You've been doing a see this this. This is exactly why probably wasn't approved for the committee. He thinks that as a rookie. You just get on the board of directors a man my man you gotta put in some groundwork man you you just think because you wrote a few articles and you made some noise the as is going to open that good. He's over there hot dog and this is for what they don't know this is talking from what they don't so i forgive you for what you don't know. Let's keep losing steam. What you're not listening to me. What i mean by articles is when you when you do your little gossip. You're doing it on the show right so we got imagine that this is like you re in boxing scene in about said fighter. So that's what. I mean like you know you you turn to a little bit of stones. You ruffle some feathers and you get you. Get the crowd pumping but does that put you on. The board of committee to rule on things yet does reason why does because i feel like off also is a big factor for me as well. I need to get back during this evening. You still young. Listen they already making mistakes. Let me tell you mistake. Come back there. But that's exactly why you don't belong there because the mistake that they made you agreed with right so first mistake they made was putting bishop on a list of one knockout. And it's like what in the for pop pop up so you know you agree. You agreed with us. I bet bet whenever. I know because you didn't activity. We're looking at a time for finalist and we can blaming. I made it for days. But we have people in the past finalists. Who hasn't fallen like no. That's not true man. we movin on you. You you hit selling the truth to man. We going to ruin a five. Oh four man lescoe he. I hit making shit up. Fellas was happening. What i'm located with the third fight or the undisputed. I'm okay what either but we have to talk about the disrespect. What's going on. We got a guy that's four. No one boorda wars. We got a guy that put hands on port and spun off on a world champ. He got in there with them. We got a guy who i know that. I signed up for patriot a while ago to see him fight. Umberto wars you. People are paying the sea nets win or lose. that's cascal status. That's floyd mayweather stop. Well we disrespecting nice force crazy money and you can say build them up in the jab has gotten better over the years and this is getting better. It's like canal. What was this guy is just checking up every box disrespect for the guy who's got a knockout. Look you plan disrespected francis. They i guess the question is well. How was it how you when you get in a ring francis crazy this respect man. Listen good luck to you and s. I'm not gonna disrespect command. You're the reason. I patriarch years ago. This on a reason why. I keep fom with on for board awards. Listen up to do me a trainer your appreciation and appreciate do a box. The only thing the only thing he left off this is what what did he damn man. Yeah exactly oh. He added shawn porter. But yeah sean also got spun with dion nicholson who we just had on entities dudes i had doing like i'm big fish. Man people over he can over your garbage in your yard was last time. Yeah knocked down. Appro in sparring stopping the listen. Listen donna points barn. Had the opportunity was given what happened. But i know what happened or when you step into find lights stuff happening to me. Floyd for once young i vote for roy for once or twice a year. If it's an event you know. I've obviously got my years well for twice and i got my years. Well fort once like i'm an event. So what are we going to do is when we choose the fight in one of the four border wars or all of the four border was next year is going to be an event but just keep in mind that we're not pick when i pay don't make no excuses for the dudes. I paid now. I have to make excuses. Give you picking cherries food. Dudes and dude fight. Somebody else is. Somebody finds somebody that you can look at. Do that got some weight all you. What's up when i come back when i hope dudes on the path of pound list. Don't duck me. that's gotta get onto the listener. I feel you this if he so severe so you got all that experience you down throws it should be easy worst point to the easy work nest points. Easy work middle box. Easy weren't next up. Box were come on as easy worse innings. Aj's easy work info as smoke him out j. by by to get your man burma man. I'm jay brought up. Joe joe's now yeah he don't get me. Yeah we got a plan. Yo tape of joe. We got of joe in the back of the mansion in the back of the mansion. We got table. Join the back of the man. I didn't texas saying how he feels. His fight ain't ready and he wants to give more fights so be quiet was after the us before to fight. That was after the fight stopdown. Oh let me move on you slowing up the show use. Lana this show. Because i don't want them to say that is about me. It ain't about me is about joe. Joe morocco joe and smoke him out. J that's who fighting you trying to make it about me. That's that's disrespectful. You fight isn't it we're gonna slow rang taught trump. He may be mine and everything. Coast on this side Y'all have eubanks problem behind automatically jim because the him out. Pg i like the way down. We'll be tuning in him apple even in end up pretty early now. I hope that you know but About it on a jet air thing. We'll see what he do. you know. that ain't air. But i'll be we. Don't worry chain. You could get behind the his his his his whole mo and has i guess his attack on for fighting is is what you is. What you need to have is what you need. Man who nixed. I guess no one. So we'll just stick to You know talking about mammalian fury bulking up a shift for for those who've just tuned in end maybe right. now we are talking fury. While the threes emanate fury in miami was sugarhill. Bulking up as bad news for wilder. Is it bad news. I mean it was bad news the first time him saying you got a big guy coming at ya I is it going to be worse now. That this guy's muscular Is it going gonna matter really. Don't know right because we don't know what wild is doing. You know while there's been real quiet and You know for all we know why could become an in. You know two fifty. And we don't even know looking like a straight superman and And the end you know. I think it's more the skills than than than the size I think the adjustments there while the needed to make bomb are more important than than than the size the he he probably to put on just to kind of counterbalance that that weight that the fury brings but in the end i think skills skills and and the game plan. It's all about game plan and men that that that that's that's a that's that's what it becomes when he gets to these professionals and and in the in the championship fights especially gotta have a good game plan. So it's just up to be up to wild and see what just he's made who's new. I can't wait for the energy to see francis after his fight. I know that i the fight. No no the day before to the day before. Because you know he wants to get in the week early and all that but so you're going to see how many conversation he's going to have with us. How much advice these acts and then after the fight i wanted to listen to watch. How his his category his body language and just the way he speaks changes. You are sitting in your mom spare rooms. She all of a sudden all of a sudden. You're going to be doing live pfizer. You're gonna hear certain things like. Oh wow you know they all look he did that jab or how he pulled back to the kinda pull counter something that he's going to all of a sudden admire so much more because he finds the difficulty in cheating that in the ring right because we all think try. We all think oh. I could jab like a cork. I could do the hook like kodo place that was shot and then you try and you try and you just don't look that way. Good at all. They say francis gonna win the whole week. You can't even get over phone book. Yeah let's bad forty jay mack. Love listen march is around. The corner marches around the corner. You ask say was two weeks out down combat. This only take a minute. They got everybody no matter what you say since black friday. He's not a vo years. That's what his nomination for Ensure the year. Oh how those. Joe t yeah. Can you hear me. We do here you shit. I was on mute mute. You okay running back. Them back back ness. I'm not concerned about you saying they're saying that. I do notice that you always try to stir the pot no matter what it is when you put your your season in it the trauma flavored so it can be spent the way you wanted to be spent do picking offer whatever they feel like it is and what have you. They've been knowing dumi and some getting argue that you'll knock knock or guy. You ford was a lesser win to guy like for instance deceit and i actually agree with him on a guy who's getting a two belt Title shot in his next fight. So i mean. Hey if we won't play that i can spend it back that way On forest cherry picking up. Wait all i do. Hope is legal man. I hope it ain't got nothing crazy. I hope edna body to go come back and we will have Question how he got the win again. looking forward to the fight. Hope is a fell fund. I hope we ain't got no questions. Come from it I if every win fair where he went from the square fair and square. I actually don't he did the second fight and tahseen glows Extra shit came from it. daily meet to believe there are some foam away. He cheated Open we go in this fight. We don't take away from the discredited in if he deserved the win and beat wild of beat them fan square move long. Get to do what you need to. But don't don't Continue has been reasons and questions doubt because we can do away with that he brought upon his own and plus he has enough history involvement gloves and this Being questionable for us to question the he he actually do it with the visible evidence for a while while the definitely need to be focusing on things he can better himself with going forward I recommend i recommend no picking up of the weight. I think you need to build. Its calling his legs up. I think he needs a become a heavier jabber me. I'm driving through mountains. I got a check i. I work mayhem. Pumping his jab more frequently change height up not so much in the way he dropped down to because he i don't think he had the full workday drop to the by. I think he just needs to learn and the been his by using shoulder more to protect his chin so he can exchange when my punching at the same. I always believe it while the had better protection of chin and as you need is chain. One he exchanged punches. It gives them a better chance of resolving the punt so he can lay his punch. I mean that'd be his best catching shooting for everything else in Is not gonna happen. He'll have enough time to perfect these days. So widen need to make short quick adjustments. That can help him and he can do going forward. We're looking forward to the fight. That's my call us. Them showed his protect the chin style. Hunch us or not excuse wrong whereas sorry jamie strike that from the record you're on His rebuttal was that my opponent was of a lesser caliber than kimes opponent. And that he taught came to a better wind in me. That doesn't make any sense. My opponent has actual six amateur fights and arguably already had a win in boorda was right You know key highly contested. The his fight with Mongo he had one not drew. So yeah mario on. The other hand had stigma not showing up. It was unknown whether he was going to show up so we didn't even know what he had like. Eddie has the background. You know but i get it. I get it. Listen you won. You won and i'm going to be happy to make you a beautiful award. Go way back in the past. We just people were her like. We just said you had toward we. We're giving give you one march thirteenth champs. So 'cause you definitely want. Everybody voted for everybody do me. You ain't doing enough an told you. They hear all the cries of the champ and do me. Don't show up to the gym francis. They hear the crowds at the chair alone in vegas man coach. Let me go. Let me go to Oh info joe is checks. Border wars box giant portion of the show. We call clear you are what and man. I see gues- newcomer coach of the year award. I smoke a mile your first round. Knockout actually what. I told him a day. They know some credit may put some respect. Utah put some respect. Yeah we gotta keep it. Boxing ain't no such thing as that category newcomer train other. Yeah a. did exactly what i did. Got the keio. But i was wrong. Yes day you told them to stay away from this no actually asked me. You wanna done you said. No man won't mess knicks. I said what i'd say. All right all right all right this. He want me right. Yeah he won't see man he wants. You ain't working with jay people on these yesterday man. He knocking out. All bump see roman ready yet may not not this one the next one but he coming out when you bring them down to. I'm charlie gimmick lose about ten pounds man ten fifteen pounds. Maybe ready made he lo- overweight right now. So you know nice first match your new fighter because this man. I won't tank man. If sony tank i wanna tank man. J p is clipping man. No doubt what's jake handy. Jp is six or six one like that man. Thank you know. And that's another tall. Do give them toll. Dues may state. That's our first choice. Well let me tell you this tank got await calls may because he really trying to lose weight so anybody anybody despite in them in march got away to fifty and he got away to fifty. He ain't just trying to be in the heavyweight division forever like he really getting down and that and that way is different from what did he weigh in for the first five francis who's at tank tank now. I don't have it. I'm gonna take some because yeah he definitely told me that. Even eddie eddie take this fight. Because that's that's that's the that's the phi this you know Talked about he got away to fifty tank ain't plan he as side J. p. is somewhere around that now mass while i'm trying to get him to lose about ten fifteen pounds my man. My man want fistfights. Yes you are correct. Yeah tang don't want nobody Over to fifty is going to be coming in to fifty or under for his real fast now. Fighting saturday against yeah it could be one pound over. He's not he's a two fifty or below. He's trying to make our here. We got to attempt to work out. Want you want people to take a serious because a lot of chubby wait stand in the chubby way and look yacht starting to see that shit ain't even safe no more man. A white blade jar would up due dot com house. The south side of drunk was good. What i just on my way home from the petsmart head to the gym man i would the third fury While the five. We gotta see without any conspiracies. No glove gay. No nothing and after that. We'll see who writes victorious wild versus. Aj is a bigger fight for unification So i would like to see honestly would like to see fury win but with the latest conspiracies. Haven't been the biggest fan of him. But i still think without a glove gay or any other gate that i i do. Still think he beats a fury or i mean wilder so But it's a great fight. I hope it happens soon But i've heard that theory. Aj has been verbally agreed upon that's just verbal agreements just for the medium shore. But yeah i would like to see through reverse wireless three. It's gotta happen before the unification They're aj's way bigger fight In fury hey jay so Yeah that's the fighting in this one. So yeah that that interview this morning. was great. It was definitely Definitely entertaining. They both seem game for each other. And that was like border war so that'd be a really good fight and I'll know though. Why boy seemed like us down for scraps like he wasn't scared so We'll see if we can get that fight and if it does get made i mean that's that's all things to tv men. That's why i love the channel. I supported Thank you guys for grinding out. All the time appreciate it have a great day. God bless drive. You fill me. We're going to make up really ship. Hey karma local talk like that taught me the way i want to talk to you. Turn off his station. I'm the vet. Good morning good morning. I was up Talking theory versus ill home. I'll give me a. Y'all said i got on a little late at he know interview but Yeah my balkan up mo foot is fiery fury bokan Have you seen the picture of him at the gym in miami. Nah i have good sir. So he thought he ping muster well. Hopefully like is a good fight man. I think long as the glove ain't tampa where. I think we go see better fight. We go see if the second fight was was a fluke or anything you know Fear is the better boxer course in the fight we know while is the better punching and stuff like that so we just hope the glove not tam naked and if every wins he wins he wins correctly. This time you know girls was tampa with delays. Fight why a lotta stuff to change up in. The game i heard was talking about going down to the body. He can try that and stuff like that one thing about it is gotta stop gore street back because even when you go straight back still courage stone stephen shove it up was good. Can you hear me bad man. I just hopped out at a sour man. So i might be does not. He's not not import. It's not important will need to know but man. This is listening. No matter what we think fury you always give fury in the trenches pictures of him in the trenches when he back when back in the old days when he went up there with emmanuel when he was doing this other thing when he came with. I was sugar when people's laughing and don't ignore some serious man they. He tried to stop wider guillaume. I don't think he fear wilder. You don't feel that you don't think wow there is is is seasoned enough or killed enough to beat him and not think of a jay rock in should he'll got going on out there man so if he can get jay rock back in tip top. You might have another one mess. So i'm interested Update i don't even think very need must to be wilder. His muscle memory is enough to be wilder. I mean what he do he do in his sleep. We saw a great vladimir. We give jay credit off eighteen months but dallas. Three winning it in. May vlad look old. That was furious. I did that. So i'm interested. Minimal key my out man. We'd better watch him. South florida doctors. You know how to get there. I i gave you both your caused you a little bit to get warmed up there Yeah yeah so. We got a lot going on there. And we have any super jets. He run out real quick while we listen. This whole move for fury is is is not new. He's always done different camps in different places. He's he's never he's always willing to go away Outside of his zone to make in happens for whatever the situation is and it is no different for diontae. While it's being quiet working. And and doing it. I don't see this whole situation. This this almost reminds me of when andrew. We took a picture of him being slim before finance. Josh is the second time it was like. Oh psych we got you. That's how i feel about this situation. Yeah now go to the shin said fury at any weight or muscle can't bust a grape fight is important man. Could we see. I wanna see like is the power still. There was room now. All of that. Still gonna you still going to have a massive person coming at you. You know what i'm saying. I bohm pointed. it's muscle memory. That makes him the winner. You know all the other stuff was just to kind of try to take on the giant that while there was at that time right you know he. I tried to box him and He found out that he wasn't he wasn't big and strong enough to push while they're back and He went back to john. Boy he got big. You know now the bulking up They're putting on more muscle and it's just gonna be a strong guy in front of you man if that muscle memories. They're the only thing that i don't like about bulking up too much as they could slow you down in the later rounds but you know not tyson. Fury never showed that he gases out. He never shows that that that that he runs out of gas. He's light on his feet throughout the whole around. So that's the only interesting part for me about the whole bulking up. Is he going to be able to move the same way especially in the later rounds and if he can then shit man The adjustments that wilder makes his really the ones. I'm interested in all right. Let me go to big drouin east. La y'all the only reason. Why frankie's talkin greasy man. Cause you ain't gonna find nobody else five to two hundred fifty pounds for yoke washes all the while. They're ball washers. I like how involved there has the wdc. All we wanted was him to fight asia so we can have our first unified heavyweight in twenty one years but says while the loss was supposed to stop all other from even a fans will. We weren't even boxing what it needs to unify champ. And they'll tell me Theory cheated man in in this country the the accuser has the burden of proof. Not the accused. You gotta bring you gotta prove it. We'll we'll pass down to punish me if it's provable. But all these talk is just back from boxing. And they'll tell me about the long count. I keep telling you watch. The video theory. Goes down at two twenty three. He's up at two thirteen. The numbers don't lie to look at the clock. The only one that likes is wilder with officers. Excuse i can't cut it well drew. It's either rules to isn't there. Easterly drew ever fought. I don't know i. I don't know we we know not in boys you gotta sign up swaying shoddy for you talked to me. Yeah but you can't just be you. You gotta understand how this works can't just be inviting people because you don't know if drew on no not for me i mean is what if he has an amateur background. What if that's what we do we match people with proper records. What is something. I missed. How are you going to tell someone who's call they they make fun of you. Sign up by someone else in bordeaux's because said you gotta find somebody five. Whatever my height. I'm about to get into rain swing so you you come from me then you i'm confu. You gotta do it to drew if you didn't know you. Cash up at ness g. t. o. N. e. s. Gt five dollars. Gets you a counterpunch which means you can come back or you can do a five a super chat with the word counterpuncher. Cpa if you ever want to come back but it is limited time house. There's a rule but the whole thing right where like the refs count is the real count and not the watch not the clock so yes. Oh look into it a little bit more drew. Maybe maybe maybe you know it's. It's a little more complicated than that. It's not the clock on the is not the graphic clock on the screen. It's there's a time keeper as timekeeper. Th the rifkin. It's his count at the end of the day. It looks like we got victor in baltimore. What up been a minute. We've been at that what's going on. I'm good man about putting into project. Like eight on duck mycole. I've been out there for winning. Get that culture for me. I got My my take on this is First of all. I i still maintain my position about Cute aj that's the fight. We all wanna see. We don't want to be The love bra get knocked out. What his time and and the bitterness and knock you should take to you know. Go hide under game plan and len better buxton. Then come back. But i don't think he will come back because of age. And if she can't stop come from valuation he is and leaning on hype about power. It's good to have a knock apollo but if you don't have the book kill go over there you. You can't be in the lead. Aj uri or even if you left or another suspect to or even read i believe got busy for a long time. I know what. I want you to fight. And he's the tougher happening well again. You're for me. He wanted to put part approved. Cut hall maryland. Holcombe dam was going on. What's up brother. Okay koo koo got I don't know what i'm saying. Which i was talking about And and i think in my opinion. I think that's very gonna be joshua but if he does right wilder why that took floyd floyd so he could work with Floyd with his legs because what. It doesn't fight good ball back. I don't think that second fight back up real fast and made them trip over his own feet because basically when he hit him in the stomach. Wada was tripping over his own feet. Just don't do backing up. I wish he could have got with floyd. That would have been a good move him but It comes off. I think he's gonna fight josh mccown and his people starting to think he's bulking up joshu enough awhile the how to manifest now. Aj did you see as being bulked up for this last fight with pula. I didn't think he too bulky. And besides i mean i think i. I don't think that he would be worried about being strong. You know what i'm saying. He could outbox him so he says but I could see what he which would want to be a little stronger. I don't know man but it looks like furious while there's more it. I know a lot of people. Wanna see this Undisputed this unification happen. I know i've been wanting to see it when it was i supposed to happen. We agent while the but oh sorry. It's hard it's hard. It's hard to read this mad. Bet one hundred komo morning. Good morning this drink soda at the team. I think still hanging out with six dollars. You look at the farmer. Got somebody that poke congest screamed impromptu on recovering to them to Because we don't bother you definitely third bike see. I'm manda have my call. Thank you brother. Scotia one hundred. We got coach. Myers boomerang actually sorry Brandon boomerang of my gene right. i'm lost but once somebody's g all native. Today are all right. Coach myers. Yeah one thing. I always told jay. Mac and key about the border wars that i never talk about a fight it out for that four ford awards unless i stop it unless i stepped in the ring myself. So that's the vice francis unless you step into the ring and throw them punch. I would urge you to keep your mouth shut because you don't know what it likes. You don't know what it's like and what it takes to get up in that ring and the back of a member ness was the one saving you for me. 'cause meth could easily said. Oh you'll just take co smart but not saved uber. So you shouldn't be calling adult when you actually got me means. I think you should just keep your lips sealed more when it comes to this border war fighting and talking but that's my car now one hundred percent. I'm allowed my opinion to say what i want. Somebody call up here. You know what i'm saying. Call anywhere on the street. I don't can't say oh you need to do this. You need to today if you ain't doing it. Don't talk to me. Don't talk to me. Go do it first before you say i should be doing this. 'cause i'm about to get up and do what i gotta do. So don't be talking to me. Don't come at me sideways. If you ain't by doing and coach francis duck and you about what you would nobody nobody knows you. That's why they picked stainless sit somewhere. Broke don't come at me. Make them at me straight. Forward man you you got to an end up and done it. You ever done it either. I get off jolting francis. Tell them get on the card and build it get on the laws. Get a record. You're not even ranked. Nobody knows who vote why you sound like me now. Thank you know what. I'm saying like me now me. Nobody knows he want. Wanna sound like me is okay now. This is okay to sound like me now. I love it to videon niagara falls buffalo. The other side. Tbb could afternoon or the morning rather skirt do me. Francis mashed wanna see that fight for wilder. Got running back one more time. I don't care what nobody say you know. I wanna see that fight because you know. How long did he die. Wbz title defences they put these. That'd be capping and talking all this tonight and curious and just the greatest. I'm like chew with your great boxer six nine but it's like wow there's no bone though you know maybe talking all stunk. But in the world ain't gonna spire wilder so chill out with that so that's my call you know. She came through on a super. Chatty says everyone a coach to get hit with egg weights. Victor ole ru says wilder k be pool every pa- prevette can and white because you can't box going backwards all right. Yeah opinion is law now. It is law not look i get east just trying to you. Know he's trying to throw a little jabs in there. Yeah he he was. You know while the was going back in a straight line. And i hope not to see that ever in hope see him do his little angles like he did on your boy per main hit the power. Hit the power of a m shifted right shifted. I know he was doing some football but it was amazing and then he hit him with it so we need to see a lot more using angles and lateral movement. Hell yeah but Yeah i wanna five crazy. Used to those guys is. You ain't gonna come eat barbecue with us in florida. Yeah we're going to have fried frog. Legs we cater. Ooh you have ask listen. We could get some gator me and do what's that that shit came from out there. Hypocrisy tickets on the the fan boats things on your the pond. The wants to go fast. The ones that flew speedboats flow in a top came out. What's the name of them. Both with the big fans in back termi- may from boats ammo man. Man both thank you even though you sound like. You're talking but we got a super checkout upon from coach might say he's looking for fight. That's what i'm that's what he's doing. What up coats eight. Oh frankie frankie. I used to. I fight nobody when i called out to for your birthday and my first bike listening. How my ducats. If you for my i actually defy weapon it exactly exactly. They'll talk joke online with the court fight i periods but all this rank the new orleans saints finish it in either so i don't even need to hear that 'cause payments saying his his foreigners i was by the jump in and say You murdered that. I league's yo that's right. That's why i've always said that. Every everything lines at the way is supposed to. We will fight so-so stanley. Hey send thank you. Business has been as men. I play games. Sanyo footage codes myers. You never know you still got how much time he got. Gimme actual day countdown supermax. Where you at chant. Where you at pre pro prove The stunning new jersey would up. Good whatever tv show so regarding this water theory Elementaries looking pretty good but go but that said of while there is listening to the right now. The key to beaten fury in the fight is to use a lot less quote unquote technique than us. The second fight the born into second fight yet all of us fans and all the people around you saying yeah you gotta be more technical do this that and the third and you fought the second fight at other way less hectic pace. You're trying to fight rail calm cool collected and then fury jumped on you. Fuck fuck all the technique. This is going to be your last fight going. Wbz fuck go back. Could've old wilder swinging but offenses. Because that's what you didn't a- i fight. And he had fury backing up trying to avoid those punches. Now if you want to try to do that again while bulked up which it's slow down you can go right ahead and try but i wanna see you in trying to come out to all this jab jab jab goes knows could cut it all right let me get to look sly jordan in seattle. What up what are generally how ya doing all good man. I can't wait for this fly. my personal opinion louder dose and snowball's chance in hell man theory is good man series. The the camello of the heavyweights. You know what i'm saying. He got the hand movement down. He moves like a middleweight. I like i said. I don't see too many people being a man he's a he's a monster. He's lost it all wrong but wow does lose. I think he's gonna five billion just to get his his get his get his mojo back does all see nobody be very joshua's against stop to wow what round you got around the realm of theory louder i got i got theory be i. I don't know if he stops at this time. But i do got win winning joshua i got him knocking. I got him stop and i got him. Stop in joshua and the seven seventh round so you think this book for joshua pretty much. Yeah well i think he. I think he's bulking up just to see how he feels bulked up and then when he fights because joshua johnson who has his momentum back like when he when he was getting caught he was kind of like he kinda looked like you know like this could be the could cut cut it san beyond the jordan to end your call one. It actually. would you be willing to travel to florida for border. Wars yester- definitely would for march thirteenth. Because i gotta heavyweight this talking shit from from from wisconsin saga amount if he sign up our retire because he's looking gopro. I know you looking to go pro. And if you're looking to go pro community gonna get behind you. They get to see you so you just make sense. Hey yeah yeah let me. I talked to my coach. We've been trying to find the tune of the longest time pro so here we gotta be daddy. God i'm gonna get you some tape. His his his friend is adrienne from wisconsin. We'll get you some tape and see what could we do. Thank you for Being a sin to my gene down. I know how to get. We'll we'll turn down no smoke on these. They go pros minute. Some already man. We got open up opportunities. Man we're gonna put they name out there man. I think that's everybody right. Let me see striving for greatness would do great. What up living. I hear ya i i. That's what i was looking for a little enthusiasm. You know. I'm having me a good morning. You know i'm a little bit better now to just broke fast I've been going back and forth. And i joined in Maybe our when the show starts missed out on a lot. But i heard a couple of conversations though men a couple of boorda was conversation so it feels good to know that that many people were striving for greatness man that i mean to have the most for sure but back on the topic with with fairy and wilder us. Make your workman. Let's make it work there. We are looking for and hopefully they could get it done. Since the first time. I saw a wild. I always say he has to set up his his our hand. I think that'd be his edge. And obviously i always knew that syria ca box This is something that we all knew. So i guess a lot of the questions is is is for lousy but Again men if wilder turns their gear on that that we know that he has now. Steve is chicago going back to. What up steve. Come into the light must Sorry about their play. I heard brandon earlier. Talk about your vote for intro. So everybody out to keep me in mind we got. Tb shot out dollar for for putting it together for me. I sent him the content but a but anyways a man. We just wanna see the fight. But i'm going to educate your audience a little bit every time you fight. Aj there's always a rematch clause. You're always going to have to sign every the first fight. Did you guys realize they didn't have a rematch clause. In the only reason they scheduled a second. I was because it ended in a draw. And no when they did the second fight then created a rematch clause. So that should be honored. So that first one he they didn't even have a rematch clause. But he's not like everytime. Aj your own. Why you got a lot of ignorant people that follow this channel. That think despite happen the he should go right to. Aj why why we don't scream like that for aj could it. Could it stopped. It's i mean look. Is it true though. Not one of them had a rematch clause. So i i mean i guess rematch was done on a uk tyson fury versus while the one didn't have a rematch close. So basically it's done on on. No i had a rematch. 'cause it just was null and void because the draw. Oh let you walk away from the contract there's no rematch if there's no How how did you ever rematch to know outcome to know outcome. All had to renegotiate so they renegotiate it. He gave him fifty fifty. He got sixty forty two first site to get the rematch. Because the people thought he lost he gave him fifty fifty with a rematch. Close fury wins by knockout and doesn't want a rematch. A time to go to tap tap flexibile disputed chest knows. I thought beefy voice peop- people now outlet scientists sweep would be your website in was good. You can you loud and clear good. Good 'cause i bear loud and clear. Somebody's trying to take off my whole reason. I called shut off the water squads. Same day over here speaking of team. Usa of canada. And i'll try to play me on my bike. Saying y'all footage next week i've been trying to sign up aboard a worse but apparently i dawson right so we haven't even requested the money yet. We still giving everybody but we can announce deadline on saturday show. We told everybody this saturday that we were going to announce deadline goldman. Let let me get footage. If you're like. I said i just got my gear. Last week i started on this week. I just got is china Gonna saying my name. Don't put my name coach myers. Pin said stainless job no footage. That was not me. That's the trophy. Correct true listen listen to me. I have no footage. I have no footage a hassle. Go look at the footage. I had a gus. You know what i'm saying. You i put in restrictions like oh footage and light does get. It's not crazy just remember. i'm coming for. You may know saying it. I don't be looking at coach myers. Don't look a hand look at me. I'm like so just so you can rest easy. Breath were had nightmares. You know saying coach mike. Let me tell you saying a oh everybody knows on the. Hey we know that we know boxes. Come from detroit. What's the greatest. Canadian boxer lennox lewis. Y'all got to argue with the uk. Visas come on man got literally argue like who's he belonged to come on manchu applied man. We'll void do is get that first win. You gotta killer coming for you man. Listen so i look like i'm skill fury with you. Went to get his skills up. Cronk jim detroit. Good job good as gto. Instagram and twitter s everybody unless stainless one his boomerang. Everybody got they boomerang. Everybody everybody's a nasty On next door we do untitled tonight. Cause these dudes were all busy. Dumi ignored me. My mom and my darriel. He was in a gym and francis was busy on a long drive. Ness was left. Alone was at the helm all alone and it was corny. Because you know some of them courses which i think about is like i can't think for all of us you know what i'm saying. Listen man tonight's tonight that man. I had my little pup me border wars stainless said. The bouma vein. What up i understand. You said it can be breaking up a little bit moving around school. I if you said you scare the best what you showing everybody bread. I'll be scared of this old man. I'll take that ask what malacca man says for forty three in february so so you have even more time on old man astro you wind up from challenge braille. I don't why childbirth okay. I'm i'm breaking up the challenge. You don't scare in front of thousands of people. You know what i'm saying. Be man body. It's like that asked. What as always say. Please make sure you push the thumbs up. Sure this every episode of the box voice. Podcast this tv for life. If you don't patriotic because francis up bill camino all i gotta say is all i gotta say i wanted you get your coughing interviewed on your call You pay for that. You deserve that. But i'm tobacco ball for that. Listen i'm gonna tell you like. I'll tell everybody i don't eat helping words in my mouth and i never said nothing like k. You to target you locked in you. Guys stay tuned man march thirteen. It's going to be something amazing own so yod as a game though you got uphill battle. You canadian let. Let's get. I just have to shake. Listen listen this levels. You got ta canadian that already. I'm good with that. I leave this lever right there. Because all you're gonna do eh huh. Yeah no goes david. Is you have a choice api. I a shutout them up or leave love. You and your definitely can't duck down because it's going to be hot. Say to come to animal being shaped make it even worse man. we don't play hoop week. Came out here we go here. We go into the talking nonsense. You put your money where your mouth is. All they gotta do is get there early. We know the crew all year. We're going to be too early. They gotta get there early if they really want the. We got a superstar last minute from space predator I'll pay extra to see francis snoring on the canvas. Actually i'm going have a talk with justin biggs and seek it. We it on an app so we do i. I pay over straight to the app. Livestream known start start you know and we grow together but anyway that is it catches on the next one seven. Pm you know what it is. Man is next up sportstalk any ex ups sports stars. I'm sorry next up. Go ahead early. I'm sorry and him with a hit him with you. 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