17 Burst results for "Victor Conte"

"victor conte" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice

Tha Boxing Voice

02:31 min | 3 months ago

"victor conte" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice

"Is this a plane. He's in the fut-. I gotta watch this again. Is this this plane now. What is this. He must be canals. Man must be one of those bubbles. Those those are like those chambers and that should look like a car. Look it is because i feel like it's got a you see like he's in chamber. Yeah it's shut right there. Okay well does all your fancy smash. Et's stuff gotcha some trouble. I mean he's still working ten hours ago. So commit i mean look you know it's top rank and you see what victor con- said he said. No promoter wants to lose money so they need to come up with an excuse. How are you looking at it like county making sense to you. Do they need the save today. And that's why we'll get a excuse at such as herbal tea. Do you think you'll be allowed to fight you know I don't think he should be allowed to fight without some sort of investigation. If they're going to investigate it. Now now this on the radar they got to look into it and and going back to victor constant statements man. I'm just inclined to believe you know the person i mean. He has firsthand knowledge. He was before this most recent scandal. A-rod and mary j. blige and all these artists. Victor conte was the guy in that scandal with barry bonds and valco many many years ago and i believe at a time. He was working as a consultant or as a nutritionist. He was working with a lot of fighters and so again. I'm not. I don't know what his reasoning would be to throw somebody under the boss more so than maybe you know. He's just clarifying something You know from his expert opinion. You know i. I if if dr thou- cheat says one thing and then another doctor says something. We're going to ask questions because one doctor don't know at all so let someone else other than victor conte perhaps. Say something else then. I'll go in another direction. But right now i'm believing victory copy or at least the context of what setting. Yeah look and this. is victor conte. Every time someone pops. He's got something to say because he feels. He's an expert on the manner he feels. He knows the terminology. I mean i'm pretty. Sure we do research or google. Search he.

victor con victor conte valco mary j blige barry bonds rod google
"victor conte" Discussed on You're Welcome! With Chael Sonnen

You're Welcome! With Chael Sonnen

01:54 min | 4 months ago

"victor conte" Discussed on You're Welcome! With Chael Sonnen

"But looking back looking back at my career or even at that run specifically on the ditties where i wanted to quit where i barely barely crawled across that finish line. Today's when i would just come pop up in clayton. It'd be looking at the stop. Watch going what the you know. What got into here. But that's literally what what it will do without any kind of training. It's one of these great. And i've i've heard many people talk about performance enhancers and yes but this doesn't enhance your performance. That's true too. There is a number of things on the banned list that do not enhance you at all. But the performance enhancer. I'll hear a of media talking about that. That is a misconception and miss reporting by them. There is no rule within asada. That says it has to enhance your performance. That's the media has grabbed a performance. Enhancer who saw has allowed list and they have a banned list. If it's on the banned list you can't take it. There is no arguments. That didn't help me doesn't matter that is the media misreporting. What's on that list. Who sought his very clear. Here's the things you can take. Here's the things you cannot take. And i only share that because i've heard a number of guys will that didn't help me. That could be true. I'll tell you. Epo would not fall into that episode. Does work you want to hear it dirty move. You wanna hear. A dirty dirty e. p. o. Story do you guys remember the clear. Victor kante the clear and all the athletes and he was helping marion. jones comes to. I think she even had to do time because she liked lied to congress about this one of the things in the clear that was the name of the substance that victor conte was giving people but was epo so huge ingredient in the recipe. And but you're willing. You're very knowing that you're taking it. I've heard people even say no athlete could ever accidentally ingest. Epo because you do not take it early..

clayton asada Victor kante victor conte marion jones congress
"victor conte" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

08:21 min | 10 months ago

"victor conte" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

"Here's ron baugh. Christopher bell joins us on sports byline. He is the director of bigger stronger faster. It's a documentary on steroids in. It took three years to make this film and christopher. I'm trying to figure out because i have not seen. The documentary is this pro. Steroids are anti steroids. Well it's kinda right down the middle and that's Kind of like the way. I wanted to approach the issue. Actually present the truth and talk about the truth about steroids. I think that You know in in some cases A lotta people might think that You know it kind of blurs the line of what's really cheating and what's really not you know cheating and that story. The good or stories are bad. Show many medical benefits. We also show side effects. It's pretty much a black and white issue. Is it not i mean. I don't think that there's a gray area here. is there. Well i i mean i don't know it depends on. Steroids in sports are definitely becoming a gray area. You know when when you say You know performance. Enhancing drugs should not be allowed in sports but you don't have proper tests for him There's a there's a problem going on you well but that problem exists between say major league baseball and major league baseball players association. That's a negotiated this situation. I think that that's that's just political. It's going all the sports organization especially the other night There's really not good enough test to to actually find out whether athletes are using performance enhancing drugs or not. And if you talked to the you know the guys on the other side like victor conte and these guys. There's a lot of ways around the test so the problem exists within the athletes themselves. And really it's a it's a Really central black and white issue anymore. I think it's fair to say that athlete wants to cheat. They're gonna find a way to do so aren't they. Yes i think so. I think that's unfortunately our christopher tell me about what people will see and bigger stronger faster. Well it's really you know Much more than just about steroids. It's really an ex of you know my family i. It's a it's a problem that's been in my family for quite some time. Both of my brothers were using steroid. When i started making the film that was part of the inspiration to actually explore. This and see you know. Steroids were going to kill them. If they're dangerous. You know what they're doing is ethically morally wrong with what my parents think about it. So it's it's much more exploration of First of all american family conflicted steroids. Also it's You know story about america's win at all costs culture and what we do to be the best. Are they involved with sports. My brothers yeah one of them you know if one of them the professional wrestler and It was a professional wrestler. I should say and we all know that. There's a lot of talk about steroids in professional wrestling. Which is you know. Definitely not necessarily sports. It's sports entertainment however there's been a lot of controversy surrounding the wwe wrestling organizations and then my younger brother. Conflict competes in powerlifting and then powerlifting There's no test for steroids. They they don't have any sort of testing procedures. I don't even really care about it. So it's more of an extreme endeavor. Where just like pro bodybuilding people. You know engaged. Steroid use to try to be the best in the final analysis. Christopher your brothers or anybody else doesn't come down to the legality of it. I mean unless they have a doctor's prescription they're breaking the law. They're not obsolete i mean. That's a big problem is You know steroids are illegal drugs They are scheduled three drugs and One of the interesting spins explorer in the film is i. You know how stories became scheduled drugs and they did. So after. Ben johnson carl lewis and the experts actually testified that they didn't think that steroids were. You should be classified as dangerous illegal drugs like you know in the schedule that they are and congress actually the experts and went ahead and passed the law. You know based more on emotion and cheating in sports than than it did on health of that so there's a lot of very interesting things bigger stronger faster That we explore the legal issues. We explore the ethical issues. We just kind of you know. Basically show the facts so people can make their own judgments of the end christopher when you take a look at steroids obviously that's kind of cut and dry but of course things like andro which are now outlawed as far as baseball goes and maybe across the board as well. Aren't we talking yet about the gray area there. The people kind of turn their head away when it came to things that while they weren't legally designated as steroids. They certainly were in that family. Yeah well andro. Just to put it simply turns to a steroid in your bloodstream. You know when when you take your turns it into testosterone And there's a lot of other compounds out there like it you know. The problem is in explore this as well as the dietary supplement. Industry is something that's Needs a lot more regulation and there's no one really Policing that as far as You know how these dietary supplements come to the market and you know. Also we're advertising supplements and all the body building magazines and you know young kids like like when i was young saw these ads and look these guys and the guys are actually you know. Many of them on steroids in the ad promoting a natural substance. So there's a lot of you know kind of hypocrisy going on and a lot of A lot of things that confused. I think a lot of kids out there and i i wanna do basically show the dietary supplement industry and steroids. And all these things for what they really are since. This is a real life story of you and your brothers and your family and the involvement in steroids. Let me ask you about the three of you. The three boys. What was the vatian the reasoning that you each gave her either. Doing steroids are not doing. Because i know you decided not to do them expanding i actually. I actually did try them. At one point. I try to when i was twenty six years old and i tried stores more from a position of male body image. Where you're in the jamming you. You're looking around everybody's got a six pack and you know that's the victor. Go the spoils as i say. And you're looking around going. Wow man all these guys looked great. They look amazing. I should look like that and You know that's the reason why. I don't really dopey about doing it because then again like you said i was doing illegally. I did not have a prescription from a doctor. You know my brothers on the other hand. my older brother got into Using steroids one week after he went to play football at the university of cincinnati. Everybody was using steroids but not i. Shouldn't everybody a lot of the players that were doing well. We're using steroids and my brother. Just of got sucked into the trap of if you wanna compete what you have to do and He actually called my dad for money for steroids. And my dad didn't even know what steroids were at the time so that's kind of how he got involved. And then he transitioned pro wrestling and just continue to use their rights. My younger brother actually started using steroids when he was about twenty five and he did it because he was actually getting involved in pro wrestling and then when he quit pro wrestling he. He began powerlifting and continue to use it. So you know both of them kind of were And we all grew up around the jam around you know people using steroids. It was something that was very common around our family and around where we grew up. I know your brother mark. One said really all that bad. I love steroids. I'll probably be on and off them forever. What about the health side of that. Is he concerned in any way about that. You know that's where it gets scary. You know my my younger brother mark. He has two kids two beautiful little kids little four year old baby you know daughter was born in a couple of months ago. And that's what worries you know me as you know. We don't really have studies about the long term side effects of steroids We don't have studies really on. You know a lot of stuff and part of the film is more of a call for research. I think you know people are gonna use steroids matter. What i. I can't talk my brother out of using steroids is just you know Whether he decides to do this is kind of up to him. And it's a personal choice But i i would like to see more research done so that we do know what these drugs can and can't do is the wrestling brother He was arrested for a while with my older brother. Mad dog or mike he was that.

Christopher bell Christopher Ben johnson three years two kids congress three boys mark christopher both each Both twenty six years old one three one week One about twenty five two beautiful little kids four year old
"victor conte" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader

KNBR The Sports Leader

02:15 min | 1 year ago

"victor conte" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader

"Our vice versa. That's a good question. I can't remember. I used to know that I think that I think that it was you have starter member of this sack Exchange. Yeah, he had. I think Varia is the classic first cracking the eggs and get out. Would you play this in your car and think you are right? We roll up your windows and drive. You have a trade is a good song, though. Now it's not. Is it? Frank Stallone do this one? No, I don't see it. He's not drinking views with Victor Conte. Help. Different. No, he was taking take you back from night. That's the one he did in 76. That is That's his rocky three. Make it back. Do you do to take it that you remember that? Yeah, He was a big deal, but they're also there also rest of stolen movies. What do you say? Johnny Nepotism? Yeah, Of course. All of this literally all of his songs, even as one from the arm wrestling movie over the top Bad night like you just did songs for his brother's made it Pretty good live. You're saying he's not qualified? Well, geez, I'm not looking at any sort of his father. Maybe his brother, his older brother signed him to a lifetime contract. Invited them if they could only work for Sly speed bag your head like I did the meat. Well, it's better than you know, Just having him just sponge completely off you like. Hey, What can I do for you? I don't know. Pick up my dry cleaning for $100,000 a year about just makes that Polly Polly that's saying is like At least he didn't just say, you know, make up something for me so you could give me money. It has made him do songs. Alright, do songs. He's pretty good sock, Sock Sock. They're fine. I'm looking at right now. But I'm gonna have to. Ah. Remind myself of some of these songs because I can't remember him, but they're a lot of them. Looking like 10 of them. There are firms from movies that his brother did. That's I mean, there's nothing wrong with that exposed. So I was turned by dairy based there. I see those you don't You don't believe that. Otherwise you would have just if he had other hit songs outside of his brothers movies, then I wouldn't maybe his brother signed.

Victor Conte Polly Polly Frank Stallone Johnny Nepotism
"victor conte" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader

KNBR The Sports Leader

08:22 min | 1 year ago

"victor conte" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader

"Sports on television and because effects there are billions of dollars at stake billions which is why they can't cancel that TV show that's why this corona virus scare if you notice the talking points it is not well March madness be played it is not with the NBA finals be played it is will you play them with fans the question this weekend posed to lebron would you play in front of no fans said he said no I play for the fans I won't be there all walk guess what unfortunately for lebron it's good talking point for ham I play for the fans he plays for the paycheck he plays because he is contractually obliged to play and of the NBA finals was being played and he sat in street clothes outside of the arena what to bad luck he's not doing that so yes there are some schools that have not traveled for their conference tournaments but those are smaller conference tournaments where the pay outs aren't as significant we're not talking about the NC double a tournament or coverages are paid a lot of money and coaches are paid based on their tournament appearances and schools are paid based on their tournament appearances we haven't seen anybody forfeit that cash yet and I'll tell you this if he came to March madness if a school gets an at large bid and suddenly says yeah but we're not going they will put the next team man within five seconds and that next team will raise its head and say yeah we'll travel will go believe me the NC double a tournament is being played because CBS doesn't get back to that cash nor do they walk back that cash they won those games played turtle once those games played and the NC double eight once those games played long form piece done in the athletic about Barry Bonds and to this I would give him credit in this piece which is definitely worth your read because probably a lot of people just get the click bait headline of quote my heart is broken when it comes to Barry Bonds it is about Barry talking advanced analytics stats launch angle the modern hitter the strikeouts and that's a pretty interesting perspective from one of the greatest hitters ever and Barry who has forever been short and Kurt and difficult to deal with and antagonistic apparently gave the writer more than an hour of his time was willing to talk about almost anything and admitted to his mistakes in treating people poorly and this is always been my biggest problem with Barry Bonds I have often said on the show bond should be in the hall of fame because Barry Bonds despite taking steroids was the best at playing the game amongst the guys taking steroids there are other guys taking the steroids and Barry Bonds was the best of the guys taking the steroids and we don't know who was it who was it people also make the argument that he was a hall of Famer before he took the steroids that to me feels a little bit like a red herring argument I mean okay the idea that we can pinpoint exactly when he started when he was in taking if his career would have ended it that day he before he started taking always has felt to me like a bit of a clumsy argument but the point is we don't know who is taking we don't know who wasn't taking usually just put in the best of the generation and he clearly is that what my biggest problem with Barry Bonds has been he treating people like dirt for decades for decades he just steamrolled everybody he treated managers and teammates and media and fans and critics and investigators and baseball people everybody like a jerk well you know what ultimately what goes around comes around you can't treat people like absolute crap for decades then expect to get the benefit of the doubt of the backend and here's where I'm bothered by Barry he doesn't mean he should have treated people better okay that's nice to know in retrospect doesn't help now but number two my heart is broken he says his heart is broken because he's not in the hall of fame and because he's had a co death penalty for baseball well you haven't because you been allowed to work in baseball you been a roving instructor during spring training and even invited to campus but more so you admitted to taking steroids here's something that always gets mixed up in the story they never got Barry on steroids he never admitted he took steroids yes he did in the middle of the balco investigation to a grand jury in two thousand and four if you ever hear anybody use this argument please use this against them in two thousand and four when they took down Victor conte and they took down balco they had the receipts all the steroids Barry talk it was the cream and the clear Victor conte said these are steroids it was logged as steroids they knew it was a performance enhancer the new is an undetectable steroid and Barry Bonds admitted to taking it he admitted to taking the cream of the clear he said it on knowingly he thought it was flaxseed oil he thought he was taking flaxseed his claim was I didn't know was steroids but he said I took them and we know they are steroids so he is in a meeting steroid user forget the his body swelled up his head swelled up I mean that's circumstantial evidence yes that happened but he admitted to taking steroids in the middle all these home run chase which was obviously full gazing which obviously caused a lot of guys they did a clean like Hank Aaron to be come talk about heart broken Hey Kelly would still be a home run champion but here's Barry Bonds admittedly cheating destroying that record of treating people like crap along the way and then saying my heart is broken I mean please please please world's smallest violin you left all all this destruction along the way of fake records of guys pushed out of the way like Hank Aaron that did it the right way of reporters that tried to ask valid questions non steroid questions that you believe critics that you wag your finger act investigators that you stone walled teammates that you pushed away you managers that you made their lives a living hell all of these things happen and now twenty years later it's my heart is broken I mean take a lap the alternate take a lap eight five five two one two for CBS eight five five two one two four two two seven on Twitter D. A. on.

"victor conte" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

04:09 min | 1 year ago

"victor conte" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

"It's do differentiate between steroids and stimulants As you know now there's all these what they call a therapeutic use exemption that one hundred and some odd players have and and you know in in baseball I don't until they create an effective set of anti doping policies and procedures. I'm not sure anybody's going to really know and as talked about the other day there's more than twelve hundred players and during the off season they only test you know fifty or sixty which is less than five percent and then even if they try to contact them. They're unavailable. There's no consequence written into the these anti-doping policy for baseball. I don't think they're going to catch anybody. Because they don't have their hook and line in the water at the time when the Fisher binding. Yeah I'm GonNa ask you the same question I asked you in the television interview that we did together In that is that when you take a look at the whole landscape of sport and the bottom line of the end of your book title is weakened what we can do to save sports. Do you really believe that at some point in the future that the experts in the sports are going to get ahead of the cheaters No I don't I think that it's it requires The anti-doping officials embracing people like myself and Dwain Chambers. And if you notice you talked about this this piece with Martin Bashir that I did in December of two thousand four when I came out and I just told everything that I knew and did it for all the right reasons. And and a lot of the major league baseball and football executives Olympic officials that regulate anti-doping. We're crawling under the table. So they need to I thought I was really making progress by Meeting with the UCLA officials and then going on in meeting with Dick Pound at water. And then once I gave all this information to them and they realized how explosive this was in other words. If we'RE GONNA put it all out on the table. Then let's put what I know about collusion and corruption by Olympic governing body officials. That really shows that what the people that control the money in Sport. Meaning those that have the television rights are the ones and the money or the ones that really control whether or not somebody like myself is going to be able to to advise them and they're going to listen to what I have to say and then I think I think it would be in my opinion as it would do great things for the athletes state of mind knowing that somebody like Victor Conte was advising the doping officials for them to put down the drugs and say okay. There will be a more level playing field as we know. This guy knows what he's doing so therefore I think that I have a greater chance of of pursuing my dream and being a competitive without the use of drugs. How should the fans look upon athletes and the competition today? I mean knowing what we've gone through where we'll probably continue to go through the things. How should they look upon sports competition? Well that's part of the reason that I stepped up because I believe that it's there's the fan is the one that is I'm really concerned about. Is the athletes as well so they make the right decision. But you know this is entertainment. This is why they go to the stadiums. They WanNa Watch and see competition that they're not gonNA find out A year later like we just recently. Today it was announced. There were six positive tests for Sarah. A HIGH-TECH FORM similar to a substance similar to to EPA show and the guy's already got the gold medal on. They've had the parades in his country. And it's all that we find this stuff out in the case of Marion Jones. For example you know she wins all these medals in two thousand and then comes clean at the beginning of two thousand and eight. I WanNa thank you very much for coming in and telling this side of the story because it's one that needs to be heard and you've been very honest and direct about it and I hope people will check out this book. It's called Belco the straight dope on Barry Bonds. Marion and what we can do to save sports. Victor I WanNa thank you very much for that candidates Ron. Thank you very much for having me. Victor copy with us very enlightening conversation on and I hope that it really does give you fans out there better insight..

baseball Marion Jones Dick Pound Dwain Chambers Victor Conte Martin Bashir Ron Barry Bonds Victor Victor I Wan gold medal UCLA Sarah EPA
"victor conte" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

11:31 min | 1 year ago

"victor conte" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

"He is the founder and president of the Bay Area Laboratory cooperative better known as Valco and he developed the banned steroid. T H G with the help of bodybuilding chemist. Patrick Arnold now pursuant to a plea bargain struck with prosecutors. He entered guilty pleas in July of two thousand five to one count of conspiracy to distribute steroids and a second count of laundering portion of a check. He was sentenced to spend four months in prison. And another four on house arrest in an interview with Martin Bashir of ABC's twenty twenty. He admitted to running dough programs which have broken Olympic records as well as revealing that and the quote is the whole history of the Games is just full of corruption. Cover up performance enhancing drug use in an interview implicated among others five time. Olympic. Gold Medalist Marion Jones. And her partner. Tim Montgomery Kelly White who later then admitted to using performance enhancing drugs British athlete. Dwain Chambers and NFL player Bill Romanowski. He has written a book called Balch. Oh the straight dope on Barry Bonds. Mary and what we can do to save sports with the CO author. Nason Gendron Victor. What are you trying to do with the book? What would you like to accomplish with this book? Well I offered a prescription for helping to create a more level playing field for the young athletes of the future. That's the basic idea is to present not just to the anti-doping authorities but To The fans as well the adulterated truth regarding the specifics of of how we did what we did. And you know it's a cat and mouse game between the Anti-doping authorities and and the athletes that choose to use drugs and so I decided that I would lay it all out there in great detail regarding the drugs that are being used. The dosages the brands the methods of delivery various techniques that I called duck and dodge. How they they They're allowed to miss tests in any given eighteen month period but how they use this to use anabolic steroids and other drugs in the preparation for major championships. An Olympic sport like world championships and Olympic Games. I would assume that you're a realist now. Having said that what makes you believe that even with this book even telling the authorities what is happening in what can be done actually is going to change anything you know. I have to tell you that. I've been very disappointed with my Excuse me with my attempts at communicating with the United States Anti Doping Agency as well as the World Anti Doping Agency Assad and water I met with Dick Pound in December of two thousand seven before he stepped down as the chairman and I provided him with a lot of specific information and at a later point when I tried to follow up to find out what had been done with that information. I discovered that they just handed it over to what they call the appropriate anti-doping federation in various countries. The problem with that is a lot of the information had to do for example. The countries in the Caribbean and I found out because they didn't have An independent anti-doping Federation that basically. Nothing happened with this information and I was informed that Water basically make rules and has the World Anti Doping Code and they re recruit other federations but They don't do testing and they don't do any type of investigations so all they do is make up rules and pass on information that comes to them. But they're really not much in terms of tracking down leads from people that they would receive like myself or Wayne Chambers for example. I'm going to assume again another realist question. And that is the fact that you would not have gotten into this if you thought you would have gotten caught. That's absolutely true. Even though I didn't know there were risks involved. Okay now having said that knowing how much was going on before you did get caught. What makes you think they can ever catch up and get ahead of this? Well I believe that I have a lot of very good ideas. And and the fact that from two thousand through two thousand and three so basically a four year period I was tap dancing on the forehead of these anti-doping officials Many athletes were using as many as seven or eight or nine different performance enhancing drugs and of course. Nobody was testing positive. And the reason basically as a lot of people know that Finally somebody sent in a sample of referenced To use out of that got passed onto Don Catlin at the Olympic testing laboratory down at UCLA. And if that hadn't happened I don't know that even today there would still not be the use of these undetectable steroids but it was trevor ground. The coach for Marion Jones and Tim Montgomery who for lots of reasons at one point I kick them to the curb so to speak And started working with another group of athletes and It was kind of a East Coast. West Coast Gang War. That went on and they dropped dime on me so to speak and and turned in the material but it was very very hypocritical because Trevor Graham. His many in his camp were also using performance enhancing drugs and had been for many years. Even at that time he'd had at least ten athletes that had tested positive. Let me put this into perspective for justice. Second I mean you know as well as I do the VALCO and you have been the kind of the focal point. Ground Zero for what they say is performance enhancing drugs. But would you already alluded to there? Were athletes already. That were cheating. How much of this going outside going on outside from people beyond balcony? What was it what was happening before? Belco well this has been going on as far as I understand since the nineteen fifties and sixties at at the Olympic level of support. I read a book called drugs or politics that was by Robert. Voy who was the chief medical officer for the United States Olympic Committee up until Nineteen Ninety and thereafter Someone that I've met and chatted with on occasion was Dr Wade. Xm From Nine Hundred Ninety. Three two thousand and in Dhaka Voice Book. He says that were all sorts of positive drug tests. That were covered up. There was corruption and collusion between the testers and the athletes. They were being notified. They were being advised in terms of of the placement of the codes on. A and B samples. And and how to to get these cases tossed out on technicalities Wait extra said that between the decade between ninety and two thousand that There were one hundred positive drug tests fifty of those were covered up by Olympic governing body officials and out of those fifty nineteen were for athletes. That went on to win Olympic gold medals. So there's there's been an entire culture that's been going on for decades before Victor Conte Ever came along. Do you see a correlation and I'm smiling when I think and I hear about what you're saying between what was going on in athletics and also what has been going on in society with the banking meltdown. And what's happened on Wall Street? I mean I I see a direct correlation. I don't see any difference between the two to be honest. You're right you have to look at themselves. They there's you know breast augmentation and people getting those jobs and boob jobs and liposuction and You know a lot of things in terms of getting a better mate or a better job or making more money other. They're cutting corners and even in terms of the pharmacology The number one selling drug in the world is Viagra which is performance enhancement between the sheets in the business world a lot of conservatives are taking PROZAC. They call them the mental steroids. So I am saying in short that that people need to put this in the context of the fact that we're now living in a in a pharmacologically enhanced society. I know a lot of people are going to be listening to this. And they're going to be hearing an anachronism and what I mean by that. Is they're going to say well. Victory Conti must have been this very sophisticated chemist. When your background is anything but that you were involved with music you were involved with our power back in the seventies in the eighties. How does a guy go from music to where you ended up without? Go well when I was in high school and college. I was a track athlete so I always had an interest in performance enhancement and did compete myself through two years of college. Then I made that decision to move to Los Angeles and and become a professional musician. And from nineteen seventy until nineteen eighty-three. I play music On a total of eighteen different albums and CDs as they are called in the seventies there they were. They were albums but I had a couple of kids along the way and I just realized that it's hard at the end. I was playing with jazz pianist. Herbie Hancock and I remember telling my kids goodbye and and leaving for national tour and I was gone for five months and he'd call back and it's very difficult to try to raise kids and be in a different city every day and and travel around the country in the world so I decided to try to find another way to support my family and guy that had went to USC with my cousin have started a laboratory. It was actually on a facility down in Santa Barbara. A doctor Syon originally founded and owned the devising eyedrops corporation. You've got this facility and and put a I it P and a couple of Plasma Atomic Emission Spectrometer there. There's many applications what he was doing. It was analyzing where oil they would. Drain the oil from jet engines and then based on the concentration of metals they would know under replace the parts of the didn't have inflight failure but he also knew that there were a few of these less than half a dozen in the United States that were being used in a medical application to analyze a blood and urine samples. So I put together a limited partnership and acquired the exclusive rights to this particular laboratories technology and he started sending abstracts out from about mineral testing and supplementation with athletes most of it from the eastern bloc and it just seemed that I had a knack soon as bacchus started within six months time. I was working with Alberto Salazar. Who At that? Time was a world record in the marathon and had won the New York City Marathon three times and and then shortly thereafter with Matt Biondi who won multiple gold medals at the Olympics and in Korea nineteen eighty-eight. I just started from there and went led to another and pretty soon. I was working with hundreds of elite athletes very interesting insights from Victor Coty the founder and president of Belco The bay area laboratory cooperative. We're talking about performance. Enhancing drugs will also talk more about his book as we continue across the country and around the world. We've got you on America's sports talk shows sports byline. It has been said that everyone has a book in them. But do you have the time or the ability to write your book. Maybe you picked up some skills or head a life experience that you'll want to pass on in the form of a book to help others. Maybe you WANNA leave autobiography for your family or maybe you built a successful business and you want to share your story at Dorrance Publishing Company. We.

founder and president Olympics Marion Jones Dwain Chambers United States Patrick Arnold Tim Montgomery Kelly White United States Olympic Committe Martin Bashir Nineteen Ninety Nason Gendron Victor ABC Barry Bonds Valco partner Bay Area Laboratory Trevor Graham Victor Conte Alberto Salazar
"victor conte" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

02:46 min | 1 year ago

"victor conte" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

"Worldwide sports byline USA. And here's host Ron Bucks. And wherever you might be across the country and around the world. I'm Ron Bar. We've got you on America's sports talk shows sports byline good to have you with us. We got a very special hour coming up and I'll tell you about it in just a second. Our guest is in the studio. It's a serious subject but you know when we started sports byline back in October of nineteen eighty eight. It was the first sports talk radio network in the country. We started with twelve stations. And since then of course we've grown to almost two hundred. Us radio stations. Five hundred worldwide on the American forces network stations were also heard on the in flight audio systems of several airlines. You can catch us on. Hp computers were up on up. Snap if you have mobile devices you can download courses podcast not only sports byline but any of the great programs that we have on the sports byline network and we have some good ones and when I started this network the thing I wanted to do is make this something. That's relevant to the fans out there. Not only talking about what was happening on a particular day in sports but some of the issues that are so important when it comes to sports things like the morality of Athlete's salaries also things that the leagues are doing the future of sports. Because I hear on this program when I've opened up the lines. I hear fans utter their frustrations about a myriad of things and so since day number one we have tried to make sports byline reflective of really. What you fans want to talk about not only talking to some of the great athletes but also talking about the issues that you're concerned about and this hour. Victor Conte is in the studio. He is the founder and President Obama. Now you know the name. Because that was the company that came to the forefront over the performance enhancing drug use by athletes. He developed the banned steroid T H G with the help of bodybuilding chemist. Patrick Arnold and of course Barry Bonds was involved in all of this Marion Jones. Tim Montgomery Kelly White also Dwain Chambers and Bill Romanowski all of them reportedly and also when they went to court in the particular case of Marion Jones. They got themselves in trouble because they denied using these type of substances. So we're GONNA TALK TO VICTOR. Conte not about his involvement in this but how widespread it is and what can be done about it because he now has become proactive in trying to find some answers and solutions to athletes cheating using performance enhancing drugs. So Victor Conte is our guest this hour as we continue on sports byline Isaac. He missed the winning dunk and cost your team the championship. What are your thoughts.

Victor Conte Ron Bar Ron Bucks Marion Jones Hp America Isaac USA. Patrick Arnold Bill Romanowski Tim Montgomery Kelly White President Obama Dwain Chambers Barry Bonds
"victor conte" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader

KNBR The Sports Leader

03:50 min | 2 years ago

"victor conte" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader

"The the brawl that went down and then Pittsburgh and at between Pittsburgh in Cincinnati bell gets six games could her look at two games are killing killing the guy who is head hunting for the pirates he got ten games Amir Garrett you're the guy who ran off the ballot to go take on the whole Pittsburgh Pirates organization only got a game so you got fewer for starting a brawl then CUNY Kelly did for head on and which sort of brings us back to the David bell pointed why is anybody allowed to head on in the game of baseball baseball Joe Torrey who has these things down to a subject I'm not okay with me here you're getting suspended I'll be back to the second baseman discussion we were having gave the power hitting second baseman thing like we've had a few false alarms in that in that regard like member Jose Vidro just second baseman for the Montreal Expos and you played Vlad Guerrero at one point I was like do we got ourselves a power hitting second baseman it was a false alarm I happen again with some think of a couple other guys Frank many keno never at big pop but get a little bit of pop for the ace for a little bit more jealous was never obey Homer guy I mean you work yourself into a little bit the later years Marcus Giles the little brother Brian Giles now Marcus Giles might it might not himself a Victor conte or something like that but he was kind of a false alarm the burst on the scene and then sort of went away Brandon Phillips at the power for a little bit that you get all these these guys like AB who can tell Marseille who were soft hitting duties over day we talked about him fourteen homers over the course of like five hundred or seven hundred major league at bats now this year's unit forty yeah I'm looking oppose AV Joe area at the age of thirty his power numbers dropped off so he did not know Victor contact he did not know that to counter that when you start when you power numbers drop off at thirty like they're actually supposed to yes you know Victor conte looking for your numbers just by killing thirty six home runs batting average and RBI's eight seventy two ninety five on the cash to take chances all my dad comes David Eckstein was the worst affect I do do your as a as a thirteen year old it's so funny because he's the kind of guy that in baseball everybody loves because he was all of five foot nothing he's like he wasn't there the seventh of eight kids or something like that both his parents were like elementary school teachers these call in just enough because he didn't have enough form cities really more of a second baseman and then he was a nightmare and then do he disappeared for a number of years it comes back with the cardinals and like search and when to suffer World Series MVP ninety fives is don't forget the Dan Uggla San Francisco era how can I forget but they're not lose big power here for a minute for the after the Florida Marlins there yet people talking to an ugly here on the cash tree Techland injury the game more should be enough to get him in the halls is two oh nine on the tax line and then one more for such as Jed Lowrie both sides are played fantastic gloves but he's even still plan the New York Mets the Mets signing this offseason you know that was a a place the ETS are talking about they were really missing a guy like Jed Lowrie this year and then Marcus Semien big time picked up the slack ninety five says a twenty four in baseball today he would have never made it to the majors one home run to invoke a twin type of course holding the record for out for most at bats with only one home run it's seven oh two out of Vegas is ray Durham had falls pop yes spider we went with like this discussion he just walked in spider we're talking I'll false alarm power hitting second baseman we're going back to the he Dan Uggla as the other Jose Vidro is in the Marcus Giles in the world from our childhood brown I know we're going to get out we're gonna get is a forty niner talk on the other side we got a little distracted here so back to the task at hand Jimmy drop locale Shanahan talking about the deficiencies all the defense with the turnovers last year and how they improve the red zone offense this year all that and more coming up after half past red lines in the leadoff spot on the sports leader he sees the leadoff spot with Adam Copeland on KNBR six eight.

Pittsburgh Cincinnati thirteen year five foot
"victor conte" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

09:27 min | 2 years ago

"victor conte" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

"The road they get a couple of days in between series so he didn't mix works eat it he did not downplayed at all this is the time to play clean baseball again it's about the root process more than the results if you play killing baseball in get beat then maybe the other team is better but let's at least see the clean baseball first we'll never know we we we couldn't figure that we couldn't see who is better in the first act because the cubs are playing sloppy baseball resulting in loss is not necessary because the other team beat them we had a call earlier today and he was saying listen he's a cub fan he goes I'm all excited about I think they need to step up the second half of the season he said why is you divers start the first game wise Jon Lester their best pitcher right now not starting the second half I don't really have an answer for that they they mapped the sea these things out based on rest maybe they talked to John and he wanted one extra day or they're looking to series ahead and if you if you you know look at garbage every five days right you don't want to I can't I don't know I I it's all strategically done and not just because of the first day of the all of the second half it has to do with two series that had three series eight days off all that stuff so I I didn't I didn't really get into it because what's the difference they all have to they're all gonna pitch about the same and if at the end of the year you need one extra start by someone you'll make sure he gets it I know that they're not gonna you know they're concerned about the pirates of this three game series of they talked at all about who's going to start at Cincinnati series well Hendrix will start Monday okay he's the only one not start but then they have the the the hold of the chat what what do they call back call up as a lie again to get another start no answer that just yet they may wait a day or two deceive chat what's needed in the bull pen and then call about the light but if they don't use chat what I could see it being him so they might wait another day or so can't wait too long for Tuesday started his got a sort of you know figure it all out there so and and by the way speaking of that obviously that's that's Hamel spot in the rotation he threw today off flat ground so it's not quite on a bull pen but just the fact that he's throwing with an oblique it's all goes well then then we can we can start to figure out a time line if yes to sit back down for awhile different story but the fact that he was throwing today's good news so sold becomes fan should be desperate the price because there is no time line yet right I don't think so I don't think so I think they were just waiting waiting waiting until the moment that you start to throw again there's no reason to do that until now so I don't I don't think so at all I mean if he is indicated that that things are good they've indicated that they that he feels better than I thought he would a couple weeks out here so I think it was just like how it's more like how good does he feel Raftery throws and not just how bad he feels it's I it's it's I think it's a positive we'll find out if he if he feels that a little bit more in the after that costs jazz it makes you enjoy your coffee tomorrow morning because I'm sure Myanmar full body is sometime in the morning probably around ten o'clock yes I am going to have I think I always have several cops before I talked about I can barely deal with one you like yeah I know I know well have a good well we'll talk to you soon okay take your friend Jesse Rogers out at Wrigley Field as it comes get ready to take on the the Pittsburgh Pirates one jump it we had a couple of minutes before we talk some basketball three one two three three two three seven seven six and if you want to jump in talk about the cubs your thoughts for the second half what your concerns are going forward I want to play something really quickly I I played a couple of Jeff passing cuts I want to play one more he was armed with cap earlier today he talked about Brian's and by as I think that we awhile until he may play some of that this is one that really got me because I don't know how I feel about this well I kinda do all actually surprisingly he was talking about the possibility cap brought it out Victor conte talked about it a former player talked about and they hit that he'd use steroids with city David Siggy get he said that there is a sixty percent of baseball players are using performance enhancing drugs I pass it had a great line he goes well if I'm gonna take the word of somebody's going to be somebody other than probably Victor conte is gonna be someone that is involved in the game of baseball but they did say that a lot of players may be what they call micro dosing taking some steroids but not enough to maybe even show up and tests and also just enough to get themselves recovered the what Jeff passes I thought this was interesting I don't think guys you're turning into these cartoonish figures anymore and walking around you know with their backs full of acne and showing all the tell tale signs I do think guys are are my greatest egg and yeah that that leads me to the question is that so bad I'm serious when I ask if guys taking small doses in order to keep their bodies in shape throughout the grind of a hundred sixty two game season where they're traveling all over the country terrible hours where there is whether trying to keep in shape as well as they've ever been before is it such a bad saying that people are trying to maintain their bodies through any means possible so they can go out before I personally don't think so is is long as it's used as something for maintenance rather than for going out there and and turning into you know this behemoth who wants to go and hits seventy home runs I am morally personally don't have a single problem with that this surprised me a little bit when I heard just past and state I was driving in today and then as he said it I'm saying to myself you know what if it's for maintenance and image to not in doubt he'll recover quicker and all that kind of stuff but to stay healthy when you're happened at airplanes in your playing you know twenty eight games in thirty days I don't know all that I have much of a problem with that I want is you two guys because obviously you know this this comes up in a lot of sports with you know load management basketball and a lot of things but Chris and Randy what are your thoughts and would do you have a problem if players are using a small amount of steroids to just you know as maintenance just to stay on an even keel and to stay healthy to be able to play all these games you know if it's I have no problems with on the open if it's this continued you know seeker let's find a way to beat the system I do but if if if they want to adapt that into the policy or say I don't have a problem with it I don't know if I didn't have a huge problem with the whole baseball thing back in the late nineties you know I think it's a I think it's bad that these guys a lot of these guys who deserve to be in the hall of fame are in the hall of fame because of the whole thing because you know they they did what they did but I don't I don't promise right now at all now it's interesting place where we're going in sports because you know you look back at cycling and blood doping that was a major controversy and then you also look at blood spinning which many of these athletes have gone overseas gun once blood spinning don come back and then they're healthier afterwards so I wanted to go to Germany yeah yes exactly Fred you look great on the it's it's interesting because as technology gets better we as a human race continue to get better at being able to recover and to add to our performance in anything like right any person can go out and use different steroids to either help this that and the other so it when it comes to sports I feel like there's a certain pop piece of the population that says you should have nothing that gives you an added advantage but then again people wear glasses when they place baseball right and that technically is a performance enhancer now the technology on your head to allow you to see a page to see a seam isn't that tech Nikolay performance enhancing at some point remember the glasses that AJ presents used to wear and he said he was able to see that out better when he was catching yeah and like that that's an extreme idea is that at some point there's going to be technology where even normal players without bad eyesight are going to be able to wear a contact lens or something to enhance their vision to will then be better baseball player and whether or not people are against that and I feel like there's also people who see steroids as a scary bad right negative type of thing in there for their just against it's a weird space that we're heading towards in sport yeah and I heard I I got any old check at a great spin on this and he did he talk about a little bit earlier today and I have experience with it because what I was going through chemotherapy they give you steroids to keep you strong because if they don't the chemo you be going through would really just knock you out and this is I mean obviously is that the same thing but partially micro dosing to try to stay on an even keel recover a little bit better so you're not as down as you would be after playing twenty eight games twenty nine games in thirty days I think it's interesting I think it's going to come up a lot more as we go forward there's a big move in the NBA and that's it seems like you did say that almost every day since free agency started but Russell Westbrook go in to a Houston we're gonna talk a little bit about it with Steve as burger from NBA dot com he will judge as we come back Freddie opener in for Carmen and your co happy Mike nor is going to join me around one forty five one fifty and I don't forget later on tonight it'll be the odd couple at six right here at ESPN one thousand violence.

baseball cubs thirty days sixty percent eight days five days
"victor conte" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

10:47 min | 2 years ago

"victor conte" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

"Victor Conte is with us on sports by line. And again, I want you to check out the book Balch, oh, the straight dope on very bonds Marion, and what we can do to save sports co-authored with Nathan Janjic. Let me ask you a little bit about motivation because people are going to be listening to this interview Victor. And they're going to say this guy does not sound like a bad guy. Are you a bad guy? Or how do you think you're looked upon? Well, I don't believe that I'm a bad guy. I've certainly made mistakes, and I very regretful about that. But what happened was from nineteen Eighty-four is just stated through two thousand I worked with hundreds of elite Olympic and professional athletes. And I learned around the year nineteen ninety about some positive drug tests from so career at the Olympics from a track and field Olympic governing body official and then in nineteen ninety. Two at the Olympic trials I was actually there and and went out onto the track with him and his little cart. He drove around. He was in charge of all the implements there. And, and I'd worked with a lot of athletes, including the Olympia, shop put her that was on excuse me on your show with Greg performance and. Five days after the US track and field trials in New Orleans..

Victor Conte Nathan Janjic Olympic Olympics Balch Marion New Orleans US Greg official Five days
"victor conte" Discussed on The Right Time with Bomani Jones

The Right Time with Bomani Jones

02:49 min | 2 years ago

"victor conte" Discussed on The Right Time with Bomani Jones

"How I think that's Victor Conte got involved in the first place new guy, new guy who said, hey, this pharmacy stuff ain't that complicated. And then on you, go know what these dudes, right? Why do we go to the banks because the banks have money? Why are they coming at these guys because you have money and don't have the screening process of a Bank, right? Like, like, no matter what it is a never really give mad when people ask me for money and stuff because look if you need money, you go to a place where you know, somebody got money in you happen to be that person. This is just this is just the nature of the game. People are going to come to you and ask you for his money. 'cause I know if I was if I had one of those ideas, I damn sure very least I might ask for the money. But I'm gonna tell you about it. What was Charles Barkley's thing? I'm Charles Barkley in the in the airport, Atlanta one day. I just I was going. I was going home. He was going to Philly and I saw him in Atlanta. And he was like all whacked out because I was like, what's the matter? He's like, yeah. Man had to have this like family intervention, man, because you know, people be spending my money, man. And I was like what happened? He was like, listen, he says, you always gotta have someone to say, no always. But the problem is the real problem isn't always the hanging around. The problem is your family because they can get you at thanksgiving. They can get you at the barbecue. They can give you cook out. If you all the places, they get you at Christmas. So your financial guy can't step in and say, yeah. No. I think that's kind of a bad investment family. Get you. Right. You know, you hanging over the stove about to make a plate for yourself. And it's like, I got my before you come sit with me. Nobody knows their ideas. Dig- great like think about it this way, they about how many people who don't have money have people trying to sell them on ideas right now. Those ideas nobly so form of pyramid scheme, but they're even silly you onto ideal. It is about favorite pyramid scheme story about homeboy the story, and he said he was mad not because do trying to push them on a pyramid scheme. But because the dude wouldn't tell them that it was appeared scheme. And so what it was is there was this juice and juice had all these wonderful health benefits and all of this stuff. And my man was like, okay, cool. So how much does the juice 'cause he's just cost whatever? But that's not the thing. What I sell you is this certificate and this certificate allows you to sell certificates to people to then sell the juice. So this gives you permission to sail the Jews, but nobody actually says the Jews everybody just sales certificates and. It was just like yo just tell me. It's paramount ski don't try to get me like the oracle in the matrix or something there is no. Right. There's no there's no I'm really curious about the Jews..

Charles Barkley Victor Conte Atlanta Philly one day
"victor conte" Discussed on SOFREP Radio

SOFREP Radio

03:23 min | 3 years ago

"victor conte" Discussed on SOFREP Radio

"You know, I think just for me was like this like flashback to I've never went to military school or military academy. But it's like this back to like, I'm starting all over again. Yeah. I think there's a part of the dream or like I had to go to ranger school. You know, it's like stuff that you probably wouldn't want to do all over again, you know. And you knew that you did it already in your dreams like my subconscious memories coming back to want me like Omar God, there really is is weird. The whole dream analysis thing, I sometimes I do wake up and I'll write down dreaming. It's also because I've mentioned before on the podcast, but I do take this supplement called the which was like, zinc magnesium. It's nothing you sleep. It does help you sleep. But it's not really asleep supplement. It's you know, there's a lot of benefits if you guys ever want to look it up Victor Conte who's been on. Joe Rogan's show is the founder of it. Also. Arrested for the whole like steroid thing going on in the NFL, but he's super smart guy. And this was a supplement he created. And I'm totally sold on it. But anyway, for people like, oh, it's placebo doesn't work you have completely vivid dreams on that stuff that I've I've never had when I'm not taking it. I usually don't remember my dream. So it's kinda interesting when I was in the army, I used to have the dream where you know, parachuting, and my parachute doesn't open. So it'd be like it'd be like a halo jump. So like, a poem, my main Ripcord grip parachute doesn't deploy. So I cut away pull my reserve Ripcord grip that doesn't work like I'm going through all the different types of contingency checks. See try to get my parachute to work. I can't get my parachute out. No matter what I do have total malfunction, and then somehow end up on the ground and being attacked by the enemy shooting. My gun and jams. My rifle jam so I go through the army. Sports going through corrective measures trying to fix the gone. I it just will not unjam will not fire and now, wait, Iran. I'd have the civilian version of that dream when I went to college, and I still have to this day, sometimes where you wake up it's time for the final exam, and you forgot the study, which is very common. So it's like, yeah. I I have both the same same kind of performance anxiety for the military for college. And you probably those like nights. Let's when you wake up from that do you ever since you said, it's a halo jump. I've had I've had dreams that involve like car accidents or stuff like that. Do you feel like you're literally falling into your bed? I've had that before where I wake up, and I feel like I was thrown right into my bed. No, I never had that. But I'll tell you. What was super fucking creepy was the first time it ever happened to me about a year ago where I woke up I was having a nightmare and I woke up, and I absolutely thought I was awake. But I was still in the nightmare. Holy shit and kept going, and then I woke on finally woke up for real like inception. Yeah. And it took me I laid in bed. No shit for like ten minutes. Just like making sure like m I really awake. This time. I've sort of had that. Yeah. I've also experienced throughout my life. I've had sleep paralysis. I've never had that you've mentioned that. Yeah. I've had sleep paralysis maybe twenty or thirty times..

Joe Rogan Victor Conte Omar God founder NFL Iran ten minutes
"victor conte" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader

KNBR The Sports Leader

04:15 min | 3 years ago

"victor conte" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader

"Sports radio. So. Sorry, BAAs Rogers Fleming. Shelter program here on this Wednesday morning talk a little bit about the baseball hall of fame plants and four getting in to the four that are not our Barry Bonds and Roger Clements. Who obviously completely under the under the guise of of the PD use? And during that era of major league baseball where it was obviously more rampant than probably is right now before the drug testing policy came into place in both guys well documented, whether it be Clements linked to Brian McNamee, or whether it be Barry Bonds link tobacco and to Victor Conte and the cream and the clear ties. So both individuals bonds got fifty nine point one percent of the vote Clemens. Got fifty nine point five percent of the vote both of them. Well, short of the seventy five percent. Now, they've got three years to get themselves back into it. And get themselves in before it's their, you know, they've got their names on the ballot for three more years. Now, the question is do you think either one of those guys have either vote, and I'm not one of the four hundred twenty twenty-five voters. I would vote for both individuals because. And I've said it before the reason I would would be the fact that I don't think both players are a product of using performance enhancing drugs. I look at I like, Mark. Maguire was you know, a pretty juice hitter. And was when he first cracked in. I think Sammy Sosa was a lot of it was a product of using PD's. I don't think Roger Clemens Barry Bonds were. I guess well documented when they when they started to use it. I both guys were hall of famers before they started to use performance enhancing drugs. Now. I agree. I I would vote both these guys in to and I've talked about this before you, and I on the air novel little different when it comes to the PD stuff. I'm kinda in minority where it doesn't faze me that much. I feel it's pro sports all's fair in love and war. I mean, I just I know it sounds crazy. And almost people will go on sports radio to have a platform. Like, I'm blessed to have with you. But that's how I feel. I get paid to say how I feel you get paid you feel and that's just how I feel. So whatever, I know a lot of people disagree with that with that. But that's not the conversation. We're not agree with that. That's cool. But so, but the thing I mean, they they they cracked fifty they crack fifty percent they're on the cusp of sixty percent of the votes. So I think I think to your point. Maybe maybe it is. Maybe it's changing maybe they're gonna get in. And they have three years each left and they're just about at sixty percent. Like, you say Clements at fifty nine point five and bonds, a fifty nine point one, you know, so I think that's that's the turnover because I guess my argument would be TASR is if you didn't vote for Clemens this go round would make you vote for Clemens next year. Just another year out that he paid more of a penance that you know, he has to deal with this for yet another year is it seeing the light of day or is it the turnover because I think what helps guys from that era of major league baseball and the steroid era if you want to describe it as many have would be the turnover in the voter, I think a lot of younger voters direct feel a lot differently about it aren't as bothered by it as say some of the older baseball writers. So. So maybe if there's a consistent turnover maybe that vote, obviously will change. Yeah. I definitely think that's the case. And I also think you know, the old expression time heals all wounds and time goes by even with some of those older riders. And it might be thinking, you know, as you know, what? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. The these guys. Okay. So they cheated and the PD's Bubba. But both these guys Clements and bonds in there. They they were just amazing players. They changed the game. Like, they were you know. What? What do you say was it wasn't a Joe Morgan barotha? Yeah..

Roger Clemens Barry Bonds Roger Clements Barry Bonds baseball Rogers Fleming Sammy Sosa Victor Conte Brian McNamee Maguire Joe Morgan Mark sixty percent three years seventy five percent fifty percent five percent one percent
"victor conte" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

13:44 min | 3 years ago

"victor conte" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP

"I happen to believe that with most players though, you either have that injured DNA or you don't the ceiling for improving discipline generally pretty small right now. I think they have too many hitters who are just super aggressive to me that holds them back on vastly. I think they need a better balance of guys who Brian out at bad and put the ball play with two strikes and not just you know, pile up Mon Fri swingers in the lineup. So to me with their offense. I think it's a big ask for them to go from one hundred losses to contending the division. Even if it is a week division. Last one hall of fame comes out today. Where are you on are there three locks this year at girl Martinez would be one? Mariano Rivera would be too and ROY halladay would be three. Maybe is there. Somebody else that we're missing that. You can get into bonds or a Clemens get in this time. What are you doing? Outside of those three mentioned, I think the one that watches me saying he's going to be right around that threshold, obviously seventy five percent to get in. He's gonna be right between seventy and seventy six percent. I just have a feeling he's going to get in. But it's going to be that close. So you may be looking at another class of four hall of famers being voted in by the writers. And to me, they're all deserving, you know, as far as bond Clemens schilling. I think you'll see them improve. But I think all three of those guys are going to have to wait probably another two or three years away. It's been tracking. Where do you stand on those guys? Well, I vote for schilling. I think he's actually been underrated. He has the greatest strikeout-to-walk rate in the history of baseball. He struck out three hundred I think three times and to me there's been nobody better in the expanded playoff era. If you need to win games, then Curt Schilling, and I really mean that so to me it's all Famer he's Don Drysdale with a better postseason resume as far as bonds and Clemens or anybody else who's been tainted by I don't vote for them anybody that I that. I know and say that they've been publicly connected to using PD's. I will not vote for them this year next year any year. That's interesting. They made the decision I made the not honor that decision. I certainly understand what the era was like believe me. Written more about that than I carry right about live through it. I understand the pressures on what happened back then. But there's no way I'm going to endorse that and there's no bigger endorsement you get how somebody played baseball than to vote them for the hall of fame. So listen, I think again, I think they're going to be Royce razor-close in their ninth or tenth year, but not this year because I've always believed that if you asked my young son Brett, hey, who's the all time home, run king and baseball is his favorite sport. He would look at you and say Hank Aaron's all-time home run leader buried bonds was a cheater. That's just the way he was raised in my house. And that's how he believes I could never vote for any of those guys ever. So listen, the the least that you can do if you're a competing in any sport amateur and professional is to make sure you're playing on a level field. Right. What these guys did they made the conscious effort, and it takes a lot of work to keep this up for years and years, which they did. To have an uneven playing field, basically, cheat the people that they were competing against not so much fans. Although that's part of it. And again, it's it's obvious to me. Whether there's rules are not and it was obvious to them because it was blind. These guys can't even talk about it today that it was the wrong thing to do. And again, a lot of taking away records or home runs, and certainly the money that they've earned. They've got all that. But when it comes to buying -dorsements for making that kind of choice. I just can't go there. Hey, man. Appreciate the knowledge is always part of senior around the ballpark. Always a pleasure, man. Thanks for having me, you bet. Thanks again. Tom Verduci Sports Illustrated wrote the cubs way, and you catch him on FOX baseball and on MLB network. So very good stuff. Three one two three three two three seven seven six. Would you vote for bonds and Clemens? I would I don't condone cheating. I just thank you. I put Pete Rose in like, I just think if you're a great at the sport everybody was doing it that clearly they were elite talent everybody was doing it. Oh, okay. That's fine. A great deal word. These guys were clearly elite talent there clearly varies initiated. They did sheep. And it's a it's a moral compass of rewards cheaters. And all that stuff. Sammy Sosa where you fall I. Was. Buddies should be brought back and used to be embraced by Chicago Cubs. Right. But how are you calling them cheaters? Reggie earlier from Bob Nightingale Bazi Clements. Never tested positive never admitted to steroid use and never have been suspended a single game in their career for PD. So why do we keep saying they cheated first of all the tests very bonds? Listen, the eye test isn't legally binding the eye test the eye test. What does that mean by the eye test cap you look like, you're thirty. But you're not all compliment. Love you too. That's a new element to the banter here. DSP SPN. What is? Look, I saw Sammy go from one hundred and whatever eighty pound guy to two hundred and thirty and then as soon as he stopped playing right back down to. Champing he'd be he'd be welcomed back by the cubs. Why he's a cheater. That's totally different. You're restore rewarding and honoring cheater I'm not honoring him. I'm simply allowing him to come back. You're you're knowledgeable him, you're acknowledging him. And if your knowledge in him that means you're saying, you appreciate it. What he did? Yeah. I can't take away. All the joy brought people. You can't you can't you can't take away. The Barry Bonds brought people. He's welcome back in San Francisco. But you want me to give him my blessing in the hall of fame when there was probably another guy who played the game the right way whose numbers were. Okay. That had he been sticking frigate syringes in his arm cap here. Here's how you end this debate. Can you guarantee me one hundred percent that each and every player in the hall of fame currently use their never you? I can't. Okay. So did Barry Bonds play baseball. And do you do it at a level that was hall of fame worthy? Yes. Yes. And we saw right? And we saw right? That was it. You'll never change. Chris goes on Barry Bonds before he got Hughes when he was. The hall of fame famous players baseball at that point. And he chose to do drugs point is there's a cloud of doubt on the sport period. Then so you either shut down the hall of fame from the Arab when they first discovered the first user till the point where they feel like they completely weeded out which still isn't going on C Robinson can or whomever. It's part of the sport. Unfortunately. Yeah. So you can't daddy said. Which is unfortunately true. There's been no judge or jury that's found this guy guilty of anything. So all you're doing is dealing in doubt all together by giving the nod the people and putting them he admitted using the cream and the clear those are steroids. Okay. But he never he never. He never copped. Injecting himself are using using it at the level that everybody's understood outlaying. I'm not stupid. I know exactly what he did. Also also to be factually, correct? He said that when he put the cream and clear out he thought it was a nutritional supplement. So if you believe that he was putting the cream and clear out. He didn't think he was putting it on to be juicing himself. And he thought he was taking a nutritional supplement with you. Can't you take nutritional supplements? I don't take it by style. And we don't play professional baseball cheater. So. I would never ducked into how famous matter of fact last year. I think these two were on hand as well. What are we rethink that thing over? Hi, what are we rethink this? Never put these guys in they'll probably get in and good for McGuire. This Mark Maguire desire to be. No, absolutely not. Because he admitted he admitted it exactly that would change. Yeah. There's no chance that I would put any my whole stance is at the baseline is the sport was was it was running amok steroids. The sport there were it was a witch hunt. Some people got caught some people got tagged some people cop on a second. Why was it a witch hunt because they started doing testing people popped up that there was everywhere. The steroid use was rampant in sport. Correct. And so they put now in the toughest that there is any sport. But the numbers were were were spite people are getting away with it for every Bret Boone Brady Anderson. There was. What was it wasn't a prep breath wound up then he looked at it definitely got busted? I'm just throwing out random names at work. Huge named guys. I could've sworn prep got busted for steroids. If not I apologize for throwing them in there. You make a good point. Because the thing is the era. Overall was an issue and it was throughout baseball. And even as you said today there are players still getting suspended for these same things. So if you look at like that that means then no one else can get into the hall of fame. 'cause you don't know if these guys used or if they didn't there's no one saying that one hundred percent, we know Marianna Rivera never used. Can you answer that question? No, we can't and cap going back to a Bret Boone is actually the perfect example of this cat because Brett Buddha was a guy that people couldn't couldn't determine either way. If he did it or not breath poodle is a did he use steroids? Did he not right? He claims he didn't correct. So where does he fit and how we should analyse his career? And for every Bret Boone get in line. There's hundreds of them the sport did a poor job of policing this in a moment in time. So what do you do with all those athletes in that moment of time? Moment in time. Look, all I can tell you is as Adam Schefter coined it. Love the line. I got two sources my right eye and my left eye buried bonds was a juicer. Barry Bonds, Barry Bonds holds the record for the most home runs in the history of sport. No, he doesn't he does cap. I want to tell that's cool you stores, you it's all about what you make people your household believe, but the world I don't make them believe sees it in a way that it's the record. It's anybody's leave. Anyway, I wanna get Brenna lauded cfius this has been beaten into his head or. This is true. Absolutely not. But all jokes aside at the end of the day. He is at the top Pete. I look at the sport. The all time leader in home runs is not a hall of fame. All time leader in hits is not hall of fame when I walk into a baseball clubhouse, which I do. Pete rose. Is this a sign in there? That says no gambling of any kind allowed. I'm baseball. Pete Rose violated probably the number one rule the best baseball players ever live. So I if you don't want to put them in the fall of fame who flipping care, and he has come out and apologized and serve this long punishment to the best players pointed to lift is ban. I guess I'd understand. But. Why that's he made in Chile respect numbers. Bischel respect ninety the numbers buried bonds and Clemens and these guys put up I believe are enhanced. So I can't put him in. I never ever will vote for them. If I sport leaned on Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa to carry them through summer baseball. When baseball needed it more than anything that has no question. They were. Okay. Knowing full damn, well, what was going on then? But they knew the sport needed it. And so they wrote it and then throw them away. Like these guys were cheaters that there's no place for them in our hall of fame. Okay. Cool. Baseball doesn't run the hall of fame. My point is the writers. Okay. Those writers are writing about. So let's go hold this. You meant though, what era Tate's me as the baseball hall of fame has called the baseball hall of fame and museum and a museum is a place where you keep track of history. And whether you like bonds Clemens Pete Rose Sammy Sosa or not there is a place for them in history. And they should be observed in. In that museum. Okay. They can put their numbers up and say here are these people, but they cannot be inducted into a hall of fame when their numbers are fraudulent. Can't do it. I can't without concrete evidence that the numbers are fraudulent. You can't say that your dad was a judge a judge. He was a lawyer by all accounts, you should be the person screaming that there is no proof that these guys are guilty. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not stupid. I know they're guilty. Very bonds had had to go to court how many times and he would fight who's the one guy who refused to testify. He was in jail, and then you had Victor Conte from belco. Damn right at game. I got a question for you Marcelo. My guy on Twitter said this literally Bud Selig the Commissioner of baseball during the time of the steroid era is in the hall of fame let the rest of the guys in if the guy who is running the show the first of all, and I've had a chance to interview but about this..

baseball Clemens schilling Barry Bonds Sammy Sosa Pete Rose Curt Schilling Marianna Rivera Chicago Cubs Mark McGwire Pete Rose Sammy Sosa ROY halladay Brett Buddha Bret Boone Martinez Brian Hank Aaron San Francisco Victor Conte Don Drysdale Bret Boone Brady Anderson
"victor conte" Discussed on Arrive Early, Leave Late

Arrive Early, Leave Late

03:34 min | 3 years ago

"victor conte" Discussed on Arrive Early, Leave Late

"So you know, that fight was originally supposed to be an Anaheim. It was unfortunate that they moved it. But they moved it because they wanted as much exposure for the first ESPN card that's gonna be on Saturday as well. The following week. We've got a bell tower may card with Fayed or Melian Anco. Oh against Ryan Bater. That's the heavyweight grand prix. Finale. We've got super featherweight champion Giovanni Davis fighting Abner marris stubhub center. Good one. I I actually the new name. Not forget it. But yeah. Dignity health. Sports spark. Yes, we had the hashtag still magic that all kinds of stuff. You can still call it the war grounds the war ground. We'll we'll take that. Right. A week after that, we've got Microsoft theater. Leo Santa Cruz is defending his bell, basically. And just a stay busy. You know, it's interesting Beto. I put this in the fight corner. There's a there's a strong possibility that the the world welterweight champion. Shawn porter fight for March night that was scheduled for T mobile arena in Vegas will also get moved to the war grounds. So we gotta keep an eye on that that definitely could happen. According to my sources week after that March sixteenth, you've got Mikey Garcia, aerospace and Dallas. That'd be Mikey's. I pay per view, Mikey moving up to divisions. Yes. Very bold move. He's been working out with Victor Conte. The mad scientist. Sexist. Yes. So he feels strongly about that. Then March twenty third at the forum LA just got Miguel Burt shell Francisco, Vargas revenge rematch is going to be there. I'll run against Bundy though. I like that more than some people are saying, it's going to be another destruction. I don't see that taking a lot of time off. So yes, it's interesting. Okay. And then lastly in at least what we have right now, April twelve at Staples Center of silly, low marchinko will be fighting. He'll be fighting the winner of a fight in in Dallas. Where to the expected winners this guy, Richard Komi? But you know, I was talking to Andy foster to head of the California State Athletic Commission last night. And he was telling me that fights in California get this out of in two thousand eighteen California had more professional boxing matches staged than New York. New Jersey, Texas and the Vada combined. What s and more and buying more? And you know, what that speaks to the passion in my in my opinion. Because most of these fights are taking place in California. It speaks to the passion of the southern California fight fans. And I that's something that I've said over and over again, a love it. It's worth it's worth exploring for these promoters. And they they know more more than ever that. Instead of looking at these other states where there may be some kind of like guaranteed fee, your you'd better look LA and the Southland because you're going to get a strong audience. And yes, while there, we you know, these fighters may be on the hook for some taxes and stuff like that the live gate money that they're receiving from these these events people show makes it worth it. They show especially in LA the fight corner. I just signed up right now. I put in my Email Durant's g mail. Subscribe, our boxing and MMA newsletter. Written by put Mark comes out every Tuesday. Look, I'm your bile raising Oklahoma and Glendale Arizona graduate from Kelsey. Fullerton. Get you pug Meyer, all kinds of action one and only Lance book, your social media is LA times..

Mikey Garcia Anaheim LA California Victor Conte Richard Komi Ryan Bater Dallas Leo Santa Cruz ESPN Staples Center Andy foster California State Athletic Comm Shawn porter Fayed Melian Anco Giovanni Davis Microsoft professional boxing scientist
"victor conte" Discussed on The Fighter And The Kid

The Fighter And The Kid

03:35 min | 3 years ago

"victor conte" Discussed on The Fighter And The Kid

"But it's completely different. Be do. We saw again DC max Holloway nicknamed the chimps Woodley. Fuck in Whitaker and rose mighty mouse. And now, I know picogram nothing, no, dictates how other note dick pills. Nothing. No, PICO Platt. Right. There's none of that. Right. Right. Are we just going to -ssume that John Jones has bad luck? And he happens to be the greatest fighter to ever fighting out. So I think that Jon, yeah. I think the John John's too, many coincident, I do think you're right that you have to go with the fact that at one point this guy was doing something. Right. And why we're saying that because it? Like, the exact reason there was that's what the results say. However is he the greatest fight at every step in the octagon one hundred percent degrees. Prove that without unequivocally yesterday. One hundred percent did he prove it without drugs yesterday in my opinion, one hundred percent. He's he he is. He is a phenomenal. Well, he was pop December this month for the picograms will. So how you get there? Probably another substitute wasn't performance enhancing. Nobody has taken them in the past. I believe he probably has. But still I just think he's beyond a shadow of a doubt the greatest fighter ever stepping down. Yeah. Yeah. But he looked so impressive. I was let me ask you this. Let's say his next fight. He fails again, it's PICO Graham levels even higher when we do that. I don't know does not count. I do just give them a flag. He's the science is going to tell us what we have to stick to the science. And I think we have to stick to independent labs, which is what's happening. And we'll let's let's see what the experts really on the science. Remember detailed stuff that scientists are. Let's let's go only with what the scientists say. So the signs said trickier study was like only with Cuomo phen-, that's the closest thing they can go, right? And then their study ended at like two two hundred something days John Jones pot more than five hundred days afterwards with there's no. The study that shows that they did one study actually Novitsky said that this is not unprecedented that there has been long layoffs where you were still seeing residual results for two hundred days or two days. Never after they stopped it up. I don't know that Mark. I I don't know, man. I just don't know. None of us do, but we're just going based off thing. I think I think I think. Of its gives a hard job. Yes. And I I get what you're saying. However, in my opinion, John j-o-h-n fights in my opinion. No matter what like in that situation. I let them fight and situation. I say your cloudy. I'm sure everyone's cloudy. I watched it. But at what point do we just if he lets every this is every fight does. He just get a free pass to figure it out. They have to figure out what them their system because if you don't think view deal keeps popping PICO. But no one else does. Yeah. That not just a free pass to pop on those people grams. We know we know according to independent people like the McLaren report because there's not enough matter stars enhancing. There's no done. But we know that that that that according to the science and experts out there that these this is not an and this is why he was exonerated. It's not performance enhanced time of it. So you heard the argument from Victor Conte. Right. So if there's different vats 'cause they're not cleaning these vats with the acid all that stuff. They need to because they're going through recycling stuff. Right. Yeah. It's so if there's turnabout in there, but then there's a substance that no one's able to detect. It's like high advance of since and he's doing that and the residue from the Toronto balls what he's getting caught for Donald thrown..

John John John Jones PICO Platt max Holloway Victor Conte Whitaker John j-o-h-n Jon Cuomo Toronto McLaren Novitsky Mark Donald one hundred percent One hundred percent five hundred days two hundred days two days