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"vernon howell" Discussed on American Scandal

American Scandal

08:10 min | 8 months ago

"vernon howell" Discussed on American Scandal

"It's August 1989 in Pomona, California. Mark bro sits on a couch paging through his Bible. He's in the Branch Davidians house, but at the moment he's only pretending to read. He can't concentrate. The terrible doubts that took root in Texas have festered here in California. Bro has had no choice but to join this recruiting trip, but deep down, he's also hoped that spreading the word of God would restore his shattered faith. Instead, it's left in feeling like a hypocrite. At this point, bro is almost certain that he'll abandon Vernon hell. He can't stand to be howl's accomplice any longer. But can he really walk away from everything he's given his life to? If he's wrong to doubt how, how will he be punished for turning against the son of God? Bro has been watching his leader closely ever since that night in the office, and Howell has been unusually silent recently, a rarity for him. Rowe wonders of how consensus doubts may be God has given the prophet a window into the mind of his most trusted disciple. Bro looks at the other followers waiting expectantly in the living room. He hopes Hal won't hold a Bible study today. He's not sure he can take it. But it's Saturday, the Sabbath, so there's almost sure to be a study, and probably a long one. Hal emerges from his room at 1 p.m.. He always sleeps late, and he says a study will begin soon. Bro watches as the 13 year old Australian girl peeks her head out of the bedroom. He feels shaky and sick. Howell sinful acts of continued bro has done nothing to stop them. Bro scoots to the far edge of the couch as people gather for the Bible study. Powell walks to the front of the room where he's surrounded by followers. They're seated on couches and sitting cross legged on the floor. Bro wishes he could flee. He looks at the door, but then Hal began speaking. The book of Matthew says that we should be perfect as our father in heaven is perfect. Can any of you meet that standard? Bro sees everyone waiting anxiously for howl's next words. He imagines that they're all hoping for the messiah's approval as bro once did. But instead, Hal begins to berate them. If God were to judge you according to that scripture, none of you would stand a chance. God would shake out most of you. You'll be rotting fruit falling from the tree. How cas angry look around the room, then stops to stare directly at bro. You claim to be led by the spirit. When you're actually led by the devil. Bro feels a rising panic. Does Hal know that he's going to leave? But suddenly, Hal shifts his attention. He turns to Steve Schneider. Steve, why did you marry Judy? Schneider turns and looks at his wife. Because I love her. No Steve. You married her because you had a feeling between your legs and you wanted to satisfy it. You had lust in your heart. You didn't really love your wife, did you? Bro sees Steve and Judy's faces turn ashen. They're one of the most loving couples he's ever known. He wants his marriage to be like theirs, but he can only imagine their pain and confusion now. All of you husbands in this room, you loved your wives the way the world feels love. Now it's time to love them the way God is that I am the inheritor of all things. You all married my wives. God gave them to me first, so now I am taking them back. Bro thinks of berenice, she's far away in Australia, but that doesn't mean Hal can't get to her. His heart starts pounding. He has to say something. Vernon, stop this. What's your teaching is adultery? Hal's eyes are full of rage. How dare you? How dare you accuse me? How dare you try to deny God his righteous children? You're destroying lies, Vernon. How can that be the will of God? The entire room falls silent. Rose heart is slamming in his ears, now that he's openly defined how he knows that he has lost all connection to his savior. He's given everything for his Salvation and now it slipped through his grasp. Bro cries out and rage and despair, Hal stares at him in alarm. So does everyone else in the room? Rose shuts his eyes. And imagines himself alone on a patch of earth surrounded by the fires of hell. But when he opens his eyes again, he realizes he doesn't care anymore. He's finished with this false messiah. He will never again serve Vernon Howell. It's January 1990, a cold rain falls at mount Carmel darkening the earth. Judy Schneider walks out of the home she used to share with her husband Steve. She's hoping she'll find Vernon Howell alone today. She is something important to tell him. Howell is her new spiritual husband, and he's just announced a new name. It's David koresh. Judy has no trouble with the change. The new name fits the messiah better than the old one she thinks. David, for the king of the new kingdom, and koresh is Hebrew for Cyrus. The king who will overthrow Babylon and restore God's chosen people. Judy now feels more a part of that mission than she's ever been before. Judy approaches koresh's bedroom and knocks on the door. Koresh opens it right away. He is a haunted look in his eyes. It's the same look he's had since Mark bro left the flock. When they were all in California, bro had said he was packing his bag to return to mount Carmel, but he never showed up. In the first few days, koresh stood watching the main road waiting, impatiently. Then the painful truth seemed to set in. Koresh seemed to know that his most trusted disciple was never coming back. And that's when the shouting and tirades began. Eventually he settled into a tired misery. Judy steps into crashes living room and the two sit down together. Koresh immediately launches into his lament. She's heard it a dozen times. He blames Elizabeth baroni for the loss of his closest disciple. He says that bro couldn't accept the lord's truth, and he loved his wife more than he loved God's wisdom. He couldn't accept the lord's truth that all the groups women should become the messiah's wives, and that they should bear his children. Judy and Steve faced a similar struggle, but ultimately Steve was willing to give her up. He loved her so much he wanted her to be closer to God. It was a painful moment. They'd been trying to have children for over ten years of marriage. Now they knew they never could. Judy tries to cheer up koresh. She tells him that she has some good news. She's pregnant with one of his children, one of God's children, crash tells her that's wonderful news. The best news he's had in a while. Judy beams, and she hopes that once this new baby arrives, the messiah will forget all about the betrayal of Mark brough. It's later that month on the outskirts of Melbourne, Australia. Mark bro surveys the faces of a dozen Branch Davidians who have gathered before him in a simple suburban living room. A couple in their 70s sits upright on chairs brought in from the kitchen, a young mother bounces a baby on her lap. Bro was hoping for a larger crowd, but this is a start. Bro stands at the front of the room, clutching his Bible. He knows the book by heart. Bro looks over at barony, who gives him an encouraging smile. He and his wife have come up with an audacious plan. Bro will style himself as the new prophet of the Branch Davidians. He will preach his truth to the people, and that truth will topple for an how it will topple David koresh. Taking a breath, bro starts in on his sermon. He announces the vision he's received from God, David koresh is a false messiah. The room buzzes with confusion. But as he describes their leader's sin and hypocrisy, he can feel the people's shock turning to anger. Bro continues, and the anger in the room grows. It's thrilling. He knows by the end of this meeting, he will have his rival flock. Koresh has long prophesied a battle against earthly powers. Bro has decided, he'll help bring about this vision. He and his new followers will gather proof of koresh's crimes, and they'll give this evidence over to the authorities. If.

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"vernon howell" Discussed on American Scandal

American Scandal

05:45 min | 8 months ago

"vernon howell" Discussed on American Scandal

"Late that night, Mark bro gazes adoringly at his new wife. His eyes tracer profile as she stares up at the low ceiling. They've laid out blankets in a tool shed at mount Carmel. This threadbare space is the best they could manage for a honeymoon suite away from their respective dormitories. Still, after years of waiting, bro feels like their lives have finally been set in motion. If only beren Y's Visa weren't expiring again. The thought that they only have another week together has been weighing heavily on him. He wonders if that's why bearing high is so quiet now. Liz Liz, I don't want you to leave. I know Mark. I just wish you could come back with me. Yeah, that would be incredible. Bear in eye turns and fixes her eyes on bro. Then why don't you? Bro stammers, a small part of him had hoped she would ask this question. But now he has to answer it. I don't know, is Vernon needs me here. We're building an army. You know, for marinette cuts him off. Furnace changed, don't you think? His message is different. It's darker, angrier. I don't doubt that he's the lamb of God, but after. But after hearing him preach, I'm not sure whether his path is mine to walk. Bro is surprised to find himself nodding in agreement. Yeah. Sometimes I ask myself the same thing. But just saying these words allowed, bro feels his stomach drop. It's like a void is opening up in front of him. He has to take a step back from it. But Liz, let's just forget about it for now. I think about Vernon Howell all day every day. Can it just be the two of us here Bro is gripped by fear in the darkness of the tool shed. Baron yai has given voice to something he's refused to admit even to himself. His steadfast belief in howl's message has started to crack. A thought is terrifying, losing faith would mean losing everything, his home, his friends, his place at the right hand of messiah. He prays for reassurance for something to assuage his doubts. But one thing he knows for certain, whatever path the lord reveals, he and his wife will travel it together. It's nighttime in July 1989. Mark Bros in the office at mount Carmel typing on the computer. He's working on a letter to his mother in Honolulu, but it's hard to know what to write. He's on a knife's edge between saying that everything is normal, and that everything has changed. It's been nearly three months since baron yai returned to Australia, and the doubts his wife stirred in him have only grown. In the time since, he snuck off an application to immigrate to Australia, but even if it goes through, bro is ensure whether he'll act on it. So much depends on Vernon Howell. Just then bro hears a heavy thought and looks up at the ceiling. Hal's bedroom is just above him. Hal said he was going to pack for their recruiting trip in California, but from the sound of it, he's probably up there cleaning his AR-15 rifle, and getting ready for the final earthly battle. Bro size. Berry is right. Howe's message has grown darker. But bro also knows that God's word is continuously revealed. Who is he to question where God is leading hell? Justin bro, here's the office door open. In walks a 13 year old girl, she lives at mount Carmel with her parents, and bro is especially fond of the family, in part because their Australian. Being around them reminds him of his wife. But he wonders, what is their daughter doing here? This late at night. The girl hurries past bro without acknowledging him. He watches her walk up the stairs that lead to Hal's bedroom. His mind starts racing. Maybe she's just delivering something to how, or she's here to tell him something. That bro is afraid he knows exactly what's happening. He decides to wait in the office until she comes back down. Bro starts playing a computer game, hoping to distract himself. He knows that Hal's marriage to his wife, Rachel, was legal, even though at the time she was 14 years old. Her parents have given their consent. But since then, Hal has taken many others, he calls wives. Most of legal age, but some are not. Even Rachel's younger sister was given to the messiah. She gave birth to one of Hal's children, but she was only 14. It's all part of the vision that Howell says he received in Israel. The revelation that he should have children for the lord. Rowe has accepted this as truth. After all, the Bible is full of young wives and mothers, and it doesn't condemn polygamy outright. So long as bro has had complete faith, Hal's behavior has made perfect sense. But maybe bro does not have complete faith. One of Howe isn't God's representative on earth. That would change everything. If Hal is no longer a messiah fulfilling biblical prophecies, he's a man fulfilling his sinful desires. Bro was drifting into a troubled sleep when he hears the girl's footsteps. It's 5 in the morning. He sees the girl stop at the bottom of the stairs. Looking startled to see him awake. Rowe begins to speak, but the girl scurries away. Ro walks to the door and watches her move quickly across the yard to the house where she lives with her parents. His mouth is dry, and a sense of guilt rises up through his parts throat. If Hal is hiding behind false prophecies, then this child isn't a vessel of the lord, she's a victim. Bro knows that the laws of Texas are clear on the matter. Each one of the miners is a case of statutory rape, with the ones who are under 14, it's a felony. Bro closes his eyes and praise for God's guidance, asking one question, should he continue to follow the messiah, or should he use what he knows to destroy Vernon helm..

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"vernon howell" Discussed on American Scandal

American Scandal

06:59 min | 8 months ago

"vernon howell" Discussed on American Scandal

"Violent son, George. Howe believed that he was the new embodiment of Christ, who had come to earth to bring about the end of days. Over the years, Hal's confidence continued to grow, and he convinced his followers to adopt an increasingly violent worldview. But some of his followers began to question him. Soon, they turn against him, fueling his paranoia and setting the stage for his fateful standoff against the U.S. government. This is episode two, the betrayal. Its early 1988, about a year and a half before Mark bro woke up with terrible worries about his religious leader Vernon Howe. Today, the sun slowly rises on the outskirts of Palestinian Texas, a cast of pale glow over the branch davidian camp. Mark bro shivers in the cold, and Harry's past the small shacks that dot the camp. He heads past the school buses that have been turned into homes and round a corner. He's got an electronic piano tucked under his arm and a big smile on his face. He's beaming because today is special. Vernon Howe isn't just Bros messiah. He's also the leader of their rock band, and the two are about to head into Waco for their very first recording session. Bro reaches the van. He opens it up and sets the music equipment carefully in the back. Then he jumps into the passenger seat, fern howl is already at the wheel and flashes a grin. How aware's thin, wire rimmed glasses and a rock and roll mullet. Whether it's a jam session or a Bible study, Hal always suggests a world of exciting possibilities. The two drive into town and how is in his usual talkative mood. But bro was only half paying attention. He stares out at the Texas landscape blurring by. And he thinks about how strange and how wonderful it is to be riding shotgun next to the messiah. Bro has spent his entire life searching for God's truth. Just a couple of years ago, he was living in California and working towards a master's degree in religious studies. He wanted to be a Sevent-day Adventist minister, but he was told that because of his poor eyesight, he could not. The setback left him in deep despair. He was about to be saddled with a useless degree, no future, and no path to God. But then bro met Vernon Howe. Hal took him in, he gave bro a deeper understanding of God in the Bible. But it didn't stop there. With House instruction bro had vivid dreams and even visions. He'd had them since childhood, but now they felt stronger. More connected to God. At first bro was skeptical that Vernon Howell was a prophet, but the Bible was full of stories of prophets, why couldn't the same thing happen in modern times? And why couldn't he be a part of that story? How pulls up in front of the big planet recording studio in downtown Waco. The two men step out of the van into the crisp air. They haul their instruments inside, and once they're settled, how talks through the first song they're going to record. It's called madman in Waco and tells the story of Hal shootout with George roden at mount Carmel. Hal recites the lyrics and bro nods along. Bro didn't take part in the raid itself because of his poor eyesight. But Howe's upcoming trial for attempted murder is at the center of bro's world. How could go to jail? And that would leave the movement without a leader, or they could win acquittal, and have a chance to take back mount Carmel from George roden. Bro starts playing his keyboard, improvising under the lyrics, but how cuts him off harshly. That's not the party he wants. It's wrong. Hal's moon can turn like that, and it's been happening more often lately. Bro chafes, but he doesn't fight back. Instead, he begins to pick out the melody the way Hal wants it. He knows how it was under a lot of pressure with the trial. Maybe when they finally make it back to mount Carmel, Howell will be less irritable. Right now, that's all broken hope for. It's April 1988 on a third floor of the mclennan county courthouse. Judge Herman Fitz sits at the front of the crowded courtroom, waiting for George roden to be led to the witness stand. Fitz has been a judge for nearly two decades, and the trial of Vernon Howe and his associates is one of the most bizarre cases he's ever seen. Fits Ives the prosecutors. They look nervous. On paper, this case seemed airtight. How an 8 of his buddies got dressed up at hunting gear, snuck onto another man's property with rifles and shotguns, then began shooting at the property's owner. It's an easy case of attempted murder. Judge Fitz thought the trial would last a few days at the most. But then he met Vernon Howell and realized this trial would be anything but simple. Fitz looks over at the defense table. How sits with his hands folded neatly in front of him, looking calm as can be. Behind him, the galleries crammed with people from Howell's church or whatever it is. The judge recalls the first day of the trial when he asks any potential witnesses in the gallery to stand and be sworn in. The women all just sat there. House lawyer tried to get them on their feet, but they wouldn't budge. It wasn't until Hal himself gave them permission that every one of the women stood and offered to take the stand. And things just got more colorful from there. At one point, the judge had to bar howl in his followers from doing something unbelievable. They wanted to carry in an old, dirty coffin into the courtroom as evidence. Fitz thinks howls about as crazy as they come, but he can tell that Hal has a strange kind of charisma, and he's built sympathy with the jury. Fitz watches as the bailiff leads George roden to the front of the courtroom. Roden wears a black stetson hat and an orange prison jumpsuit. He'd ended up with a 6 month jail sentence after the county courts found an old restraining order against him, barring him from living at mount Carmel. They also found that no one had paid taxes on the property for almost 20 years. Rodents gals at judge Fitz, then how that Hal's attorney. The prosecution squirms in their seat, roden is their only eyewitness, but they didn't want him to testify. Instead, he's been called to the stand by Howe's defense attorney, who now approaches and begins his questioning. Hal's attorney asked roden if it's true that he duck up a body of one of his mother's followers. Roden doesn't hesitate. He says, of course he did. He was trying to raise her from the dead so that everyone would know he is the true messiah, not Vernon Howe. Judge Fitz worms in his seat. That's Eddie thinks that's all the jury needs to acquit right there. They'll dismiss roden as crazy and they'll accept Hal's claim that he was just trying to get innocent people back into their homes. The judge glances over at Hal, he's unnerved to see how smiling back. His eyes focused intently on the judge. George roden may be off his rocker, thinks fits. But that doesn't mean how is any more sane? Pitch thinks about the best possible outcome. After all, the dust settles from the trial. He hopes there will be peace and sanity at mount Carmel. For.

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"vernon howell" Discussed on American Scandal

American Scandal

05:17 min | 8 months ago

"vernon howell" Discussed on American Scandal

"The garage and house belong to the Branch Davidians. They're a religious sect whose teachings bro has followed without question until now. Froze eyes flick open, immediately his mind starts racing, he's running through the same terrible questions that kept him up last night. He wishes he could get up on scream, but instead he stays motionless under the covers. Bro is in his mid 20s. He is a thick mop of dark hair and a deep desire to know God, and almost for four years he's been a disciple of Vernon Howe. Bro is howl's trusted lieutenant, his entire life, his home, his friends, his Salvation, rests on the faith that Hal is the new embodiment of Christ. And that makes this morning and his doubts so terrifying. These last few years, bro has learned some deeply uncomfortable truths about how. Last week, for instance, he and Hal drove from Texas to California and Hal's Camaro. But they didn't come alone. Hal also brought the 13 year old daughter of one of his followers. They stopped for the night at a hotel, and Hal and the girl shared a bedroom. Bro plays the memory in his mind. Over and over. He feels sick to his stomach, he's given everything to Hal, in exchange, he's supposed to play a central role in the Salvation of mankind, but he thinks what if Hal isn't the messiah. What if he's just a pedophile hiding behind a Bible? The thoughts and bro right out of bed, he dresses quietly, trying not to wake the others, then steps outside. The sunlight is warm on his skin, bro is partially blind, but he can still make out the pale blooms of a jacaranda tree. Just then the front door opens. Rowe turns and sees a clean cut 20 something with blond hair and a mustache, which is best friend. Steve Schneider. Schneider gives a quick wave. Morning, Mark. You look awful, everything all right? Bro avoids his gaze. Not long ago, he convinced Schneider to follow Hal, and now he's not sure he can look his friend in the eye. Oh, I'm fine, Steve. You sure? Bro hesitates. Well, honestly, I'm kind of shaking up. It's Vernon. Schneider gives a slight nod. Enough encouragement for bro to continue. He's been acting erratic lately. We're supposed to be saving people, right? But some of what he's doing, it'll scare people away. I hear you. I've been trying to recruit this couple and he's been so rude to them. No one's going to accept a profit the way he acts. Yeah, exactly. Lately it feels like every day he does something to test my faith. Do you. Do you ever wonder Schneider raises an eyebrow? Wonder what, Mark? Bro desperately wants to share the doubts that are consuming him, but he also knows the power that Vernon Howe wields over his disciples. If he questions howl's divine authority, how finds out. Rose life will never be the same. He's not ready to cross that line. Well, yeah. Ever wonder why of all the people in the world God picked Vernon Howell to be the messiah? Snyder last two broke and feel he's broken the tension. Yeah, the lord works in mysterious ways, Mark. We should probably get back inside. I'll be right there. Bro watches his friend walk back into the house. Schneider remains one of the faithful. The state of innocence that bro wishes he could return to. When it's too late for that, he's powerless to escape the question that shook him awake this morning. Is he really serving the messiah or a monster? And if he's been serving a monster, bro knows he owes a debt to God, in which case he must do everything in his power to take how down. Every day you get older, but that doesn't mean you need to feel older. What if we could slow down the clock, Thorne is a health and technology company that's transforming the current approach to wellness through their at home tests and science backed supplements, Thorne offers solutions for people of every life stage and health concern. For example, Thorne's collagen plus for supporting skin health or thorns Naya cell for promoting energy production at the cellular level. Thorns commitment to quality has earned the trust of over 45,000 health professionals and thorn is the only supplement brand to collaborate with the Mayo Clinic on research. To start optimizing your health and receive 10% off your first order, head to Thorne, that's THORNE dot com slash the letter U slash AS one zero. Why put off having fun until you finally have that free time, you keep hearing about. You already do enough to earn a bit of joy exactly when you want it. And with best fiends, you can have a little fiendish fun anytime, anywhere with an exciting mobile puzzle adventure game. It's easy to pick up and play, whether it's for a few minutes here and there, or if that free time does roll around, you can have a fiend tastic marathon. You've earned your fun time, download best fiends, free on the App Store, or Google Play. Plus, get $5 of in game rewards when you reach level 5. That's best fiends on the App Store or Google Play. Friends without the R, best fiends. From.

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"vernon howell" Discussed on American Scandal

American Scandal

06:25 min | 8 months ago

"vernon howell" Discussed on American Scandal

"Scripture. Everything the Bible predicts for the end of this earth, it all. It all became clear. Just like that. Hal looks into Rachel's eyes. I am the final messiah. The final Christ. Our people will be the first to ascend to God's kingdom. Rachel knows that she should be excited, but all she feels is scared. What about our baby Vernon? Oh, he'll play a part in all of this too, an important part. The an won't come for ten more years in 1995, I saw it. I saw it as clear as day ten years as a lot of time. Rachel wants to cry. She knows the end is a beautiful thing that it means all the suffering on earth will cease, but there's still so much she wants to do. But we go home to mount Carmel before that? Of course, of course. I don't know when yet, but we'll find a way. We'll get back to mount Carmel. Whether George roden allows it or not. How suddenly it looks exhausted. He flops down on the bed and stares up at the ceiling. Rachel lies down beside him, waiting. She breathes a sigh of relief when she hears her husband. Softly snoring. She lies awake, thinking she smiles at the thought of seeing her parents soon, and eventually seeing her home again. But then she pictures George roden with all his guns. She worries what will happen when Hal confronts him. The future she wants at mount Carmel is peaceful, but right now, all she can see is anger and darkness. There's magic that happens when you get together in a verbal vacation home. It's the magic of spilled drinks and twirling hugs. It's inside jokes and loud shower singing and life advice and big sister real talk and laughing till you can't breathe. It's the feeling of relief because no matter who you are, there's nothing like spending time with the people you love. Furbo. A place for together. Download the app to find yours. It's fall in 1987 and a brisk morning at the davidian camp near Palestinian Texas. Vernon Howell walks among his followers as they tend to their cook fires. Smoke curls up through the pine trees. He spots his wife, Rachel, huddling near one of the fires. She holds their son Cyrus at her breast. It's been more than a year since Hal had his vision in Jerusalem, and more than a year since he uncovered that he is the second coming of Christ, as he and his group prepare for the end of times. Despite this revelation, he and his followers are still living in the wilderness, entire families were packed into old school buses and makeshift log cabins. There's no electricity or running water. There are things how likes about this setup. The hardship keeps everyone focused on preparing to meet God. He's grown more confident in his teachings, and now how imposes a strict diet on his followers. They must all be pure. Hal looks out at the camp and satisfaction. His army is stronger than ever, but he can't hide it. There's a glaring problem, no matter how loyal his followers are, he knows he won't be the undisputed prophet for all the videos until he retakes mount Carmel. And that won't be easy. Lois roden died, and Hal fell pity for her. Pity that she hadn't accepted his role as the new Christ. But her death also created a problem. Now, George roden has fully taken control of the property. He's even renamed it Rodin fill. There's little chance he'll give it up easily. As Hal continues to survey his camp, a man arrives, NASA speak with him. He says he's one of the few who still living at mount Carmel. He tells how some big news. George roden wants to have a showdown, a way to prove who's the new prophet once and for all. The man explains how this battle will work. George has dug up the body of one of Lois followers from the mount Carmel cemetery, whichever one of them can bring the woman back from the dead will be the next prophet. Hal laughs at the messenger. He knew George was crazy, but this. He had no idea George was so out of control. He shakes his head and says, no. Tell George, I'm not in the resurrection business. But as the man leaves the camp, a thought occurs to howl. George's latest scheme may be crazy, but maybe it's exactly what Hal needs. A way to push the last rival prophet off his perch. It's a few days later, inside the mclennan county sheriff's office in Waco, Texas. The deputies sits at the reception desk, slowly filling out a crossword puzzle, waiting for a shift to end. The deputy hears the door open, looks off and sees a small group of men heading toward him. The curly haired man in front stops at the desk. The other is arranged themselves behind him, almost like bodyguards. Can help boys, sheriff, I'm Vernon Howell. Do you remember me? I called about the corpse that's being desecrated up at mount Carmel center. The deputy sets aside his crossword puzzle. Sir, I told you that's not something I'm gonna bother with if you don't have any evidence. How reaches into his backpack pulls out a stack of photos. Oh, I've got the evidence right here. Take a look. He drops the photos on the desk, and the deputy begins flipping through them. They show a coffin, Drake and a decaying Israeli flag. Coffin sits at the front of what looks like a simple country church. Yeah? I can see that's a coffin. So are you going to go out and arrest George roden? Well, it's a coffin. It's dirty, so I guess it's been in the ground, but how do I know there's a body in there? Of course there's a body. It's a woman who's been dead 20 years. Go out there and arrest George roden. See for yourself. Now, sir, calm down. I've got better things to do than chasing down skeletons. I need evidence, there's a body. I'm not arresting George roden or anyone else over nothing. So you want pictures of actual bones. That's what you want. If you have proof that there's a body, yes, I'll go out and look into it. Otherwise, just leave me out of this dispute, okay? It seems to me like you want us to do your job for you, deputy. Now, it.

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"vernon howell" Discussed on American Scandal

American Scandal

06:07 min | 8 months ago

"vernon howell" Discussed on American Scandal

"It's August 1983 on a drowsy afternoon. Vernon Howell walks confidently among the people of mount Carmel. He greets the adults and smiles at the children. A group of girls have drawn a game of hopscotch in the Prairie dirt. He stops to watch for a moment, and then continues on. When Hal first moved here two years ago, he was nobody. At first, he was assigned clean dishes in the cafeteria. The community treated him.

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"vernon howell" Discussed on American Scandal

American Scandal

05:51 min | 8 months ago

"vernon howell" Discussed on American Scandal

"You. The world rushes back and the voice of God is gone. Howell is left quaking in the truck bed. He now knows the lord has big plans for him, and he must devote himself fully. So he jumps out of the truck bed and into the driver's seat, he'll study his Bible by the truck's dome light until the battery fades. It's the summer of 1981, at a rundown truck stop outside Waco, Texas, Vernon health finishes topping off his gas tank. He removes the nozzle and walks inside the station. Howe asked the old man behind the counter about a place called mount Carmel. The man shoots howl a suspicious look. Why would he want to go out there? Hal just shrugs and smiles, and the old man reluctantly gives him directions. Al thanks him and heads to the restroom. He stares at his face in the mirror, he's grown a beard, looking a little scraggly, but that's probably what Christ looked like, too, he thinks. At least if you saw Jesus in real life and not in some painting, a stuffy old church. How is done with stuffy old churches? Just a few months ago, he was kicked out of the Sevent-day Adventists. The pastor didn't like that Howell was sharing his messages from God. He was talking about the end days about how a new prophet would open up the 7 seals from the book of revelations. But the last straw was the vision hell had received from God, showing him that he'd marry the pastor's young daughter. How exits the gas station and pulls back onto the highway. And once again, he feels ashamed. Yet another of the lord's marriage planes didn't pan out. He'd spent the past couple of months adrift trying to answer hard questions. Where did his path lead? Why weren't there profits in the world today? To house amazement, one of his friends said she'd actually heard of a modern day prophet, an old woman living just a couple hours south of Dallas, a woman that lived in a place called mount Carmel. That's where Hal is headed now. He looks up at the trees lining the road, the intersecting branch is like a crown of thorns. He can hardly believe that in just a few more miles, he will get to meet his first real life profit. It's less than an hour later, and house 13 miles outside Waco. He's standing at the entrance to mount Carmel center. The harsh afternoon light bounces off the simple white buildings. Already, he admires the humble nature of this place. It was built right in the middle of a quiet Prairie. Hal gets out and takes a look around. A group of children play in the fields. A few women watch them. As Hal approaches, a woman with a British accent greets him. She agrees to take him to meet the prophet, whose name is Lois roden. The woman leads health for a labyrinth of buildings, and soon they find the prophet. Lois roden welcomes how with a simple nod. She's a thin, bird like woman in her late 60s, with oversized glasses and a prominent chin. She offers to take howl on a tour of the property. Walking together, they pass a series of small houses, nearby, a young couple lifts buckets of water from the stone well. Rodin talks as they walk, and Hal hangs on her every word. He loves her confident voice. She stops, and points out an old weather beaten church. She explains that this group the Branch Davidians started in the 1930s. They moved to this property in the late 50s. Her husband, van roden, was the prophet back then, before he died. Hal as roden, whether she has any children. A shadow crosses her face. She says she had a son, George. But he wasn't with the community anymore. Just then a man hurries past wearing a postman's uniform, rodent explains many people at mount Carmel have jobs outside the community. They don't pool their money, but they do live together and share a simple life, and they're bonded by the same goal. Together, they await the coming of a new Christ, and the end of days. How can join them if he's devoted to their message. And if he can manage to live as simply as they do, how already knows his answer, all his life he's been searching for this sort of community. He will join the Branch Davidians, and he will follow Lois roden, or at least that's where he'll start, because lately, Vernon Howell has been hearing more from God. God has been sharing his plans with Hal, and the plan suggests that Vernon Howe might play a bigger role at mount Carmel than anyone could ever imagine. Why put off having fun until you finally have that free time, you keep hearing about. You already do enough to earn a bit of joy exactly when you want it. And with best fiends, you can have a little fiendish fun anytime, anywhere with an exciting mobile puzzle adventure game. It's easy to pick up and play, whether it's for a few minutes here and there, or if that free time does roll around, you can have a fiend tastic marathon. You've earned your fun time, download best fiends, free on the App Store, or Google Play. 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"vernon howell" Discussed on American Scandal

American Scandal

07:08 min | 8 months ago

"vernon howell" Discussed on American Scandal

"Liberty, or property without due process. But sometimes, these rights can cause strife between Americans and their leaders in government. The standoff at Waco was one of the most dramatic examples of this kind of conflict. To the Branch Davidians, the government raid was unprovoked. It forced a religious community to pay in blood for their constitutionally guaranteed protections. Government agents saw it differently. To them koresh was a dangerous cult leader who had brainwashed his followers and violated gun laws. There were also allegations of polygamy, child abuse, and statutory rape. In this 6 part series, we'll explore how this standoff and its tragic ending might have been averted. Part of the answer lies with the man who built a devoted following in Waco. He was the self proclaimed savior who was born Vernon Howe, but became known to the world as David koresh. This is episode one. The new messiah. It's mid August 1968 in Richardson, Texas. Bonnie halderman sits in her station wagon, waiting to pick up her son from his first day of class. He's in the third grade, and his name is Vernon Howell. Haldeman sees the teacher's exit the building, they're followed by a neat line of students, hollow and smiles. It's only the first day, but the teachers already have the kids in order. It's a welcome sight. She's glad they were finally able to move to such a good suburban school district outside Dallas. Halderman is grateful to have her son, but Vernon sure hasn't been easy. She was only 14 when she had him, and she feels guilty for everything her son has put up with since. It never worked out with Vernon's dad, and she married the next guy pretty quickly. But that didn't work out either. Her new husband had just left prison, and he beat Vernon every time he cried. The boy was just a toddler. Got so bad Vernon had to live with his grandmother. When holloman's life got a little more stable, Vernon moved back in with her. But the trouble is, her newest husband doesn't seem to love Vernon either. He's always yelling at the boy, telling him to be a man, and he beats him. Harlem and sees Vernon walking towards her across the schoolyard. His head hangs low, there are no other students around him. Halden frowns. He's usually so full of energy, and so good at making friends. Vernon opens the car door and she sees that he's been crying. He slumps into the passenger seat and blurts out his terrible discovery. He says he's in a class for kids with intellectual disabilities. Haldane lays a hand on his shoulder, fern and sniffles, wipes the snot from his nose. As he stares out the window, Vernon's mom asking why he would say such a thing, but she already knows the answer. She's finally got him into a special Ed class. She just never thought to prepare him for the change. Then Vernon tells her what happened at recess, his class got let out late, they were running to the playground. That's when the other kids started shouting insults at him, making fun of him for being in special Ed. Haldeman watches him relive the moment all over again. All the confidence that usually makes him so popular, it seems like it drained out onto the floorboards. She tries to reassure him. He just has a little learning disability. That's all. She sees him frown at the words, so she tries again. You're special, she says. God made you very special. This seems to perk him up a bit. Vernon does love church. Thanks to his grandma, who started taking him to Sevent-day Adventist services. Fernand, thanks for a moment. Then gives his mom a little smile. He tells her she's right. Maybe God has a plan for him. It's a warm summer night in a grassy field outside Dallas in 1978, and about ten years have passed since Vernon Howe was taunted at his elementary school. Tonight, Vernon Howell lies on his back in the bed of his pickup. Looking up at the stars, 19 years old, and for months now, he's been living out of his truck. It's better than staying under his mother's roof. That's especially true when his stepfather is drinking. These days, he's been talking a lot to God. Usually the lord answers back, but lately he's been silent. How feels lost without God's instructions. What he wants more than anything is to understand God's plan for him. There was a time when he felt he'd found his place in God's kingdom. He thought maybe he wasn't so stupid after all. He finally learned to read. And by middle school, he'd memorized the best parts of the Bible and high school he even preached to his classmates, but that was before he dropped out to earn some quick cash and the Texas oil boom. Hal discovered that he had a knack for machinery and fixing cars. He also learned how to play guitar. He even fell in love. Linda was the first girl he had ever been with. He was 18. She was only 16. Hal knew he could get in trouble with the law, but he couldn't resist Linda. So he followed her to her bedroom while her dad was asleep. In a way, really bothered him. The fact that he couldn't resist her. He only got worse from there when Linda called and said she was pregnant, he panicked. He lied and said the baby couldn't be his that he was sterile. The memory causes how the winds. And now, as he lies in his truck, stars overhead start to blur. The lord told him that Linda had become his spiritual wife, and eventually he asked Linda to marry him, but she told him that she'd had an abortion, and she refused his proposal. Tonight, as he thinks back on that moment, Hal is wracked with anguish. He wonders if the lord will ever forgive him. Suddenly, how has a feeling that he's surrounded? He bolts upright in the truck bed, peers into the darkness. No one is out there, but he still feels like he's being watched from every angle. He's had this feeling before, like he's trapped. That was back when he was 12, and a group of older boys pinned him down. And sexually assaulted him. This is like that, but it's different. Because the voice of God enters house mind. The lord's presence is always terrifying in its power, but tonight, his message sounds merciful. Vernon, my son, I see you are hurting. You loved her. And now she's turned her back on you. She's rejected you. Howell tries to answer, but he's overwhelmed by pain, which fills his entire body. Vernon, for 19 years, I've loved you. And for 19 years, you've done little to show your love to me. You've rejected me. Will you never change? How often you're sick with remorse. But at that moment something begins to shift inside him, the remorse begins to fade, and suddenly how knows what he must do. He will never reject God again. He'll follow the lord's path without wavering, because he can not afford to lose God the way he lost Linda. You haven't lost her forever, Vernon. Use your gifts to reveal the truths of the Bible, serve me faithfully. And I'll give her to.

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"vernon howell" Discussed on American Scandal

American Scandal

05:31 min | 8 months ago

"vernon howell" Discussed on American Scandal

"Mount Carmel than he cares to. He's met many of the men, women and children who live here. All members of a religious cult called the Branch Davidians. They're more than a hundred strong and the group is led by a man named David koresh. Rodriguez knows that koresh is a high school dropout, who's given name is Vernon Howell. But here at mount Carmel, karash is something much more, much bigger. His followers believe that he is the messiah. As he tells him he is the new embodiment of Christ, here on earth to bring about the end of days. Rodriguez gets out of his truck and walks toward the compound. He hates visiting this place, but he's careful to keep a smile on his broad face. Can't allow anything to reveal his true feelings, or his real job. Rodriguez is an undercover agent with the ATF, the federal bureau of alcohol, tobacco, and firearms. And he knows there are buildings full of guns at mount Carmel. About a month ago, Rodriguez and other ATF agents moved into a house just down the road. They've been posing a student at a local technical school and inventing reasons to visit the neighbors. Koresh always seems glad to have them. He even told Rodriguez he could move in. Rodriguez shutters. The suggestion alone made his skin crawl. But with any luck, today will be the last time he ever has to visit this place. Already, mile long convoy of ATF and National Guard troops is on its way from nearby fort hood. Their armed for a full scale assault and prepared to take care into custody. And so today, Rodriguez has won last crucial task, take a final look around mount Carmel. If he doesn't see anything that's out of the ordinary, the raid is on. Rodriguez knocks on the door of one of the buildings. He exhales sharply trying to steady himself. Door opens. Crash himself stands in the doorway. He's thin with curly dark hair and why our framed glasses. He beams when he sees Rodriguez. Robert, great to see you. Hi, David. Brought you a copy of that paper. You made the front page again more lies. I'm sure. Crash takes the newspaper. Thanks, Robert. Come on in. Rodriguez enters and the two take their seats next to each other. Rodriguez gets ready for what's sure to be another rambling speech about the Bible. But then they're interrupted. One of koresh's followers bursts through the door. He spots Rodriguez and then hurries into a back room. A moment later, he calls out to David, saying he's got a phone call. Crush frowns. Be right there. Sorry, Robert. Just give me a sec. Koresh gets up and leaves the room. He's only gone a couple of minutes. But when he walks back in, his entire demeanor has changed. He's visibly shaking and Rodriguez has only one thought. Trash has been tipped off. He knows the raid is coming. Crash locks eyes on him. They'll never get me, Robert. Rodriguez tries to keep his expression blank. Get you. What do you mean? Crash moves to the window, and opens the blinds. You know what I mean? We know they're coming. Rodriguez's frozen to his seat, but he knows he has to keep his cover. Sorry. Who's coming? It's up to you now, Robert. Good luck. Rodriguez stands up. He needs to get out of here and fast. Okay, David. I've got to get back to the house, uh. Guys are cooking breakfast, so. Rodriguez walks back towards his truck as calmly as he can. He's shaking, but trying not to show it. He's sure he's about to be shot in the back. A thought screamed through his head. He knows, crash knows about the raid, Rodriguez has to hurry and warn the others. They're walking straight into a hornet's nest. Every day you get older. But that doesn't mean you need to feel older. What if we could slow down the clock, Thorne is a health and technology company that's transforming the current approach to wellness through their at home tests and science backed supplements. 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