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"vern donya" Discussed on The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast
"I do believe that there's some people who are wondering who the heck you are and I do want to fuck you. You have to talk about I I I. I've heard that now I will say we've got some. We've got some emails in and We're GONNA get phone calls and they're plenty of people excited to talk to you today and ask questions But I I do for the way background because WWF the WWF wwe. They've gone through a lot of announcers over the years. You were there at a pivotal time and your face is going to start showing up more and more often. WWE Network Archives get added. But you got your start in pro wrestling in the AWA. Ken Do you mind. Just is giving a little bit of a background about how you ended up in the Awa and kind of work your way to The timeline of WWF. And I know we've got some stories about that. Vince McMahon job interview. Oh sure no I'll be glad to wait I was actually doing the sports on the six and ten o'clock news at the NBC affiliate in Rochester Minnesota. Although I kinda commuted still lived in the twin cities and in the mid eighties here in Minneapolis Saint Paul. There was a huge celebrity. Golf Tournament called Duff Celebrity Golf and tennis tournament and I mean they got so the the real a listers. One time they had the cash cast from hillstreet blues they had the cast from Mash so it was a national type celebrity tournament and I had been involved with it before I got started in television and they had an area at the tournament called celebrity corner where they would have someone you know. Bring up the the national celebrities onstage and interview them and talk to them so the crowd could listen and get to know. Oh them a little bit. I on a personal level and I was doing that one year and one of the guests we had was vern Donya on you and I did a thing with burn for about fifteen or twenty minutes and then saw him later that night in the clubhouse and you yeah we talked for a couple of minutes and he wanted to know a little my background and you know I told them and where I was working now and and that was it and about a week and a half later. I get a call at the television station. Rochester and the switchboard operators. Just going crazy. She goes. I don't know if this is true. But there's a man wants to talk to you and he says he's Verne Ganja and you know I took the call and realize it was vern and he said when are you going to be up in the city's next and I told him I was up all weekend. He said how about would. Would you like to have lunch on Saturday. which we did we spent some time and he said what would you think of coming to work for me? And that's how I ended ended up starting in the AWA I. How much of a wrestling fan were you at that point? What kind of experience you had with pro wrestling fan and in the level of interest that you convey I I mean I was a wrestling fan as I think you know you being from this area that that was the real heyday of the AWA? I mean in terms of the crusher and mad dog Rashawn blackjack Lanza Lanza Nick. Bach Winkle Bobby Heenan The the road warriors so I was a wrestling fan in that. When I was around on weekends I certainly would would watch all star wrestling on television and had gone to a few of the shows so I guess the easiest way to put it away? I was a fan I. I wasn't a fanatic. You know coming in you know I. I knew who the baby faces were. Who the heels were you know who are the big names? It's you know I. I certainly had name recognition and and facial recognition so. I wasn't coming into a ice cold but at the same time it was one hundred and eighty degrees from you know doing sports on the six ten o'clock news. Oh Oh Yeah I mean all that by road warrior. Hawk is quite different than sitting behind a desk or going to a local basketball game or or that kind of thing man. What commission exactly? Yes absolutely Oh I was just going to go to Scott passenger who Emailed and said he had a question but apparently I didn't get to in quite quick enough so i WanNa know our phone numbers. If you WANNA talk to. Ken resnick. The phone number is six four. Six seven two one nine eight two way that has six four four six seven two one nine eight two eight. I'm Ken when you when you signed with Awa Or started working for them you were. It was the midst midst of of a pretty big wrestling war. Gene Oakland in institution in the Awa especially in the Saint Paul Minneapolis area or aws based A Ah very popular figure and and and kind of the face of the company more than Joe Biden crusher. How did you were you aware of the pressure fresher face the day that you showed up in gene? Oakland wasn't there D Don't shoulders well to correct you. When I came same gene was still there and you know I was actually fulltime? I was working in the office as well so the plan was us for me to to. You know. Spend a couple of weeks which I did you know during the interviews just watching gene and then I started off doing the the smaller markets. Like if I remember the first interviews I did for were stationed in in Lacrosse Wisconsin. So Oh that was the plan that I was going to kind of be a backup and learn you know the I mean I knew television was fine in front of a camera. You know more than intimidated but to kind of learn that way so gene was still there for a few weeks and then all the sudden gene was just gone he left in. I was the guy so at that point. There was a lot of pressure and also so from the fact that the the wrestler's talent really didn't know me yet and there wasn't a trust built up And I was very lucky in that having worked in really work more closely with blackjack Lanza who also worked in the office. Jack Kid Kid be kind of told them. Hey this guy is okay you can trust him. Yeah he's not out to show you up he's out to put put you over so that part came came very quickly but I know in my mind I said to myself. I can't imagine what might have happened. Had I not been. They're not talking about myself but had gene just just up and left and someone have been throwing into that where you know just from the get go and I mean it was very difficult for me. Ah But I was lucky in that I was able to learn from the likes of Jack. Lanza Nick Back Winkle and Bobby Heenan and and I remember when it all happened sitting down with Jack and I never forgot the two best pieces of advice anyone ever gave me came from. I think it was Jack and Nick Bach Winkle together when we were talking Jack Acces. Let me give you tell you two things. You're following Gene Oakland. which is pretty big shoes to try and fill so be yourself be? Ken resnick. Dole's try and be gene Orland and the other a piece of advice which I never ever forgot he said to me you know what the best way to get yourself over in. This business is with with the boys and the fans and I said no tell me he said the best way to get yourself over is. Don't try and get yourself over uh-huh and those were the two things where wherever I went and even other shows that that I did you know years later I I never forgot. It always remembered those two things and when I was getting ready to tape whatever I was doing I always repeated those things in my mind right before we started searching for more great pro wrestling. Talk and join me. Jason Powell host him to flee weekly pro wrestling boone own podcast.
"vern donya" Discussed on Newsradio 830 WCCO
"Nine to noon today and tomorrow. After our talk about civility will we're going to pivot here for a little bit. Talk about something. That's not very civil. But boy was it fun. I know that many of the listeners enjoyed this the way I did as a kid and it is one of Minnesota's legacies. We can talk about posted notes or lucky charms or all the great things that have come out of Minnesota. But I think one of the most iconic things is professional wrestling. And the Awa and joining us now is Steve Marsh, Steve's a writer, and he penned a piece for Minneapolis, Saint Paul magazine about the history of the Awa, and I gotta tell you. It was a little romantic as I started to think about those Saturday and Sunday mornings in front of the TV with the bowl of cereal, and then acting out those moves with my buddies later in the week, Steve thanks for joining us. Yeah. So you went to a local wrestling match in started to kind of relive Minnesota's legacy. What did you find a lot of a lot of these guys? They're maybe not a lot. A lot of them are getting up there in age and they're still around the state like a Bloomington alone. You know, I found the sod BUSTER was there. And he the sod BUSTER any the sod BUSTER, I went up to Saint Cloud, and I met with Larry. The hammer. Yeah. The will the app the ax Hennig the AXA. Yeah. Mid-upper dad? Yes. From Robbins, Dale Minnesota are used to. I went to church every Sunday, I would watch wrestling. And then I go see jumping Jim Brown's Al a few rows ahead of me. And he actually met me downtown, Minneapolis. But he's still out there. Lake burn ganja, son. Greg is in Bloomington. He was kind enough to meet with me. And what did they say about kind of? I mean, they're still around wrestling is obviously, I think one of the big things you pointed out was Vern ganja came up with this. Minnesota was the birthplace. But none of them got rich off of it. Did they well? I mean, Minnesota wasn't the birthplace. It was like it was kind of like the mob in that every every kind of region have their own kind of wrestling promotion. Yes. And and burn Donges was he was our local boss, Scott. I think what he did come up with is this. He was a television star. And she got it on television his own his own promotion, and he really cared about trying to make it as real as possible. You know, like he was really caught up because he was a a gopher. A great wrestler in real life. And he never got his because he's a little shorter than some of the glue stats was the the big star the fifties when Byrne was coming up. Yep. And he never got to beat Liu says 'but championship belt. So he bought his own promotion. Got the balance out, but he did really care about like does it look good. You know, does it does it look real the production competitive? You know, is can these guys really hammer each other and take bumps? Yep. You know in in the ring, and then and then in the just whatever his strategy was he ended up uncovering star after star after star like, you know, he trained he trained hulk HOGAN yuppie who who he is. He he literally trained, you know. Jesse ventura? Yup. All these guys came through here, you know. And they they that is I think what people. I mean. I think I mean, I truly grew up with it. And then watched it exploded onto the national scene to the WWE. And that's where Vince McMahon kind of nationalized it, and there were these regional wrestling circuits as they say and Vern brought it to TV. And then I remember when we got cable than TNT had some of the southern circuits, and then those kind of blew up into the WWE. But if I if you think about it those characters I thought, you know, the story about the claw in the magazine this month was fascinating. Because the reason he became a close because he couldn't talk to the camera. Right. Well, I mean, she she was hot and just like this all this stuff, the nomin closer and everything comes out of the carnival. Circuit and in the same way. Like, you have kind of an apprenticeship and baron. Von Raschke apprentice, wasn't his mentor. Wasn't burned gonyea was actually mad dog. Yep. Under his wing and taught him how to how to rile up a crowd how to get them to care about something to and and he used the stock character at the time, which was which was the nasty the German, the German German, and then it was in the ring when Barron learned for his finishing move by the Kiwi wrestler who was like, hey, put it put your hand on my head. And he forgot about it. He forgot about it until like it was like more than a year later. And then the guy's like, hey, you know, put your climbing again. And then he was like, oh, wait this could be my move. Yeah. So yeah, it's more. Like, I mean, it's not too many generations removed not at all from the the county fairs, and and and the Carney used to come through town like in when they say things like Cape pay or getting you over. This is all carnival speak. Still like, this is kind of old timey stuff that that that the real innovator here, the guy who has changed the culture, and I think impacted our culture beyond wrestling, and you know, just ain't nothing of how he's impacted boxing Mayweather that thinks he's taught him. How to do is Vince McMahon junior ruthless kind of New York sharpie who took his dad's regional mob business international. You know? Yeah. No. I think that's good. We're talking to Steve Marsh writer for Minneapolis, Saint Paul magazine about the Awa and American wrestling association, Vern ganja. Just the stars that came up through there. And that was one of the pieces of the so many of these people came out of college wrestling and they needed a job, but they've done needed a stick. And one of the things was the Chad Hartman, and I were talking about the other day was depending on who was the villain at the time. Some of these characters would change which country their allegiance what's from. And we were thinking about the chic and that he was from Iran and Iraq sometimes same show. And if you think about, you know, geopolitics today that foreshadowed allied lot. Yeah. I mean like. The same way. When Trump like uses talks about the wall. Yes. These these evil terrorists who are coming through our southern border. It's the same BS that. Iron Sheik used. Just trying to get under the skin. Now, it used to be okay. It used to be about it. It it was like opera for the working classes where we'd all auto into the Civic Center. And and even if you're a plight person, you'd scream your head off, and you get it out of your system, and then reality would start when you got home. And now it just feels like man everything's Awa. It's all been in the blender for awhile here. Stephen now, it's an interesting new cocktail that we're all drinking every day. Our first hour today. Steve if you weren't listening was about civility in politics. So right, there you go. I it is. There are some parallels always been show biz aspects of politics there half. But the way that that that Donald Trump is literally taken some techniques from from McMahon that were developed for over decades in in the upper midwest here by Vern Donya, and his basically troupe of actors who are gladiators, you know, what? Trump wants had a battle with Vince McMahon, right? Yeah. They they had a they they were actually in wrestlemainia together. There was it was like a again. This is an old Carney thing. The the the loser have to shave his head. You know, let me guess nobody lost. I think Vince loss. Now, of course, he won Donald Donald one. He d he doesn't lose and he's not tired to win. And yet, Steve if you haven't heard well, and whether he wins or loses he we care either way he gets over every single day every single hour. That's for. Sure. Well, Steve, thanks for joining us. It was a great piece. I encourage listeners to pick it up to Minneapolis Saint Paul this month. It's on the cover is all about beer, and it's a great piece on the history of professional wrestling, the depth and the characters of Minnesota, and it was a great rate, especially going back to my childhood. I'm voice Olsen. I'm in. Thank you very much. Thank you. Steve. I'm in nine to noon today. And we're talking about civility. We're talking about wrestling the last hour, we're gonna talk to the battle of diner represented Dario and Salamo and and his challenger Heather Adelson are going to be in studio might be Minnesota's most expensive house race. And we're going to talk to them about what it's like all the outside mail. What are the issues, and where are there real differences boy salsa nine to noon on news talk? Eight three w c c o on.